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Welcome to Still Unbelievable!, where we examine Christianity. Sometimes we will discuss an episode of the Unbelievable? podcast, sometimes we will test how well Christian arguments stand up because, as sceptics, we think that all beliefs should be challenged.
In this Episode Matthew will address statements made in an episode promoting Young Earth Creationism, see link 1. The podcast is Macrophage Strategy and the host, Ben, did appear on Still Unbelievable! in episode 86, see link 2. Ben does make reference to some specific scientific ideas in his episode, and in each case there will be links, so please do make use of them when doing your own checking. The bottom line is this, Ben's points are understandable but fatally flawed and display how fundamentalist mindsets harm our ability to think critically. Young earth creationism makes terrible assumptions about our world and this is why the four reasons Ben presents are very bad reasons to be a YEC.
1) original episode
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/macrophagestrategy/episodes/Ep--2---Four-Reasons-to-be-YEC-e1h0o2u
2) Ben on Still Unbelievable!
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-86---In-conversation-with-A-Young-Earth-Creationist-e1sdcp8
3) Archimedes destroyed the Roman fleet at the siege of Syracuse
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0143-0807/13/6/004/meta
https://www.historynet.com/the-siege-of-syracuse-a-roman-general-vs-a-greek-genius/
4) Kim dynasty myths
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/top-10-myths-north-koreans-are-told-about-leader-kim-jong-un/HW4M2UQJJWWJ4GCECDHGEHJ33I/
5) Contradictions in Resurrection and Ascension
https://www.learnreligions.com/jesus-resurrection-and-ascension-contradictions-250145
6) Two books
https://scriptureandscience.museumofthebible.org/gods-two-books
7) Hermeneutics
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hermeneutics/
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/understanding-hermeneutics/introduction-what-is-hermeneutics/FB1290B7101F13F9EED6DE7F4A15B5EC
https://academic.oup.com/book/740/chapter-abstract/135397603?redirectedFrom=fulltext
https://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/display/document/obo-9780190221911/obo-9780190221911-0125.xml
8) Understanding context and intention
https://philosophy.institute/epistemology/introduction-hermeneutics-art-interpretation/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20central%20tenets%20of%20hermeneutics%20is,broader%20circumstances%20in%20which%20a%20text%20was%20created.
9) Eisegesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisegesis
10) Context of Genesis 1
https://bible.org/seriespage/1-analysis-and-synthesis-genesis
https://www.publicchristianity.org/the-purpose-of-genesis-1-an-historical-approach/
11) Standard model and Special Relativity
https://atomparticles.com/why-is-the-standard-model-incompatible-with-general-relativity/
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsta.2015.0260
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We Tell Our Stories - Part 1
In this episode of Still Unbelievable! Andrew and Matthew are joined by David from Skeptics and Seekers for the first in a series of episodes where we will each be telling our stories into and out of Christianity.
The first 25 minutes or so of this episode is a catchup of our respective brands and what's been going on in our personal lives, since it has been many months since we last talked together, and then we get into the beginings of our stories. There is a significant chunk discussing Heaven and Hell and how we all, as young children, responded to the christian teaching we received. We also get very quickly into the trauma of childhood fear of god. So if those subjects are likely to remind you of your own traumas, please do be aware of what is coming. Our past traumas are laid bare and exposed to draw attention to the harm that Christianity continues to inflict.
And then as we draw to a close, we give some further thoughts on the future of Still Unbelievable!
We have no idea how many episodes it will take to tell our stories, and we invite feedback on any aspect. If there is anything you want us to expand on, or talk about specifically, please do get in touch.
As always, there will be links in the show notes to references we mention.
Matthew on the Graceful Atheist
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/matthew-taylor-confessions-of-a-young-earth-creationist/id1456800368?i=1000442160645
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/matthew-taylor-why-we-podcast/id1456800368?i=1000640103236
David on the Graceful Atheist
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/david-johnson-skeptics-and-seekers/id1456800368?i=1000471670266
Andrew on the Graceful Atheist
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/andrew-knight-still-unbelievable/id1456800368?i=1000442942053
Matthew on Life Unwasted
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/matthew/id1620087617?i=1000654236223
Jacques Cousteau
French ocean explorer and engineer
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jacques-Cousteau
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In this episode Matthew picks apart an episode of the Apologetics 365 podcast from May 2022. See links at 1, where Brian Auten & Chad Gross discuss five arguments they think every Christian should know. While Matthew explains why they are bullshit and they should not convince you to take Christianity seriously.
The arguments covered are: Cosmological Arguments, Design Arguments, Moral Arguments, Resurrection Arguments, New Testament Arguments and the Argument Against Religious Pluralism.
1) original podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/076-five-arguments-christians-should-know/id351907712?i=1000564478893
https://apologetics315.com/2022/05/apologetics-315-podcast-076-five-arguments-christians-should-know/
2) Religious pluralism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_pluralism
3) The Kalam Cosmological Argument
https://www.philosophyofreligion.uk/theistic-proofs/the-cosmological-argument/the-kalam-cosmological-argument/
4) Skydivephil video on the Kalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKe6YzHiME
5) The Reliability of the New Testament
https://www.historicalbiblesociety.org/reliability-of-new-testament/
6) The Bible is not a reliable historical source
https://religions.wiki/index.php/The_Bible_is_not_a_reliable_historical_source
7) Moral Law
https://www.namb.net/apologetics/resource/evidence-for-god-the-moral-argument/
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/an-introduction-to-ethics/moral-law/AF16C2CE2AD534DF2502647E26287FA8#
8) Fine tuned arguments
https://phys.org/news/2021-11-universe-fine-tuned-life.html
https://www.universetoday.com/153083/is-the-universe-fine-tuned-for-life/
https://theconversation.com/peer-review-the-fallacy-of-fine-tuning-2540
9) 12 reasons you can trust the New Testament manuscripts
https://crossexamined.org/12-reasons-to-trust-the-new-testament/
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This episode of Still Unbelievable! is a replay of an old episode of Ask and Atheist Anything, where Andrew and Matthew have a conversation with David, from skeptics and seekers, about polemicism. If you've followed us since those early days, you will have already heard this conversation. We think it is still relevant and this is why it's now being added to the Still Unbelievable! feed.
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In this Episode Matthew reviews a conversation between Christians as they discuss terminal cancer diagnosis. The original broadcast was on Unbelievable! in March 2024, see link below.
The original YouTube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p146mw5AuQ4&t=6s
featuring Steve Legg and Allan Finnegan
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In this episode Matthew reviews an episode of Frank Turek's Cross Examined podcast, where he and Dr. Titus Kennedy discuss discoveries about Jesus that are outside of the biblical texts.
1) the original podcast episode
https://crossexamined.org/the-top-20-discoveries-about-jesus-outside-the-bible/
2) Biola University statement of faith
https://www.biola.edu/about/theological-positions
3) Birthplace of Jesus
https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/3212-beth-lehem-judah
https://theconversation.com/bethlehem-and-beyond-how-christianitys-earliest-sites-were-identified-151719
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1433
4) Celsus on the Virgin Birth
https://jamesbishopblog.com/2020/06/23/greek-philsopher-celsus-on-the-historical-jesus/
https://www.bluffton.edu/courses/humanities/1/celsus.htm#:~:text=%5BCelsus%5D%20accuses%20%5BJesus%5D%20of%20having%20%22%20invented%20his,by%20means%20of%20these%20proclaimed%20himself%20a%20God.
5) Herod
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariamne_I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents
6) Peter's House
https://www.galaxie.com/article/bspade13-1-08#:~:text=While%20nothing%20found%20in%20the%20house%20proved%20this,pilgrims%20suggests%20they%20believed%20it%20was%20Peter%E2%80%99s%20house%21
7) rooster crowing commentary
https://acts242study.com/before-the-rooster-crows/#:~:text=At%20the%20end%20of%20the%203%20a.m.%20and,Jesus%20used%20that%20same%20phrase%20to%20describe%20it.
https://rsc.byu.edu/ministry-peter-chief-apostle/accounts-peters-denial-understanding-texts-motifs
https://news.ag.org/en/articles/news/2016/05/sometimes%20a%20rooster%20is%20not%20a%20rooster
8) Caiaphas Ossuary
https://cojs.org/ossuary_of_the_high_priest_caiaphas-_18-36_ce/
https://www.greatarchaeology.com/Caiaphas_ossuary.php
https://library.biblicalarchaeology.org/article/burial-cave-of-the-caiaphas-family/
9) James Ossuary
https://www.antiquities.org.il/default_en.aspx
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-artifacts/the-troubled-return-of-the-james-ossuary/
https://www.livescience.com/50434-jesus-family-tomb-geology.html
https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2023/04/20/weighing-the-evidence-is-the-james-ossuary-authentic/
10) Caesarea Philippi
https://www.bibleplaces.com/caesarea-philippi-banias/
11) Justin Martyr
https://archive.org/details/firstapologyofju00just/page/n9/mode/2up
12) Celsus (again)
https://jamesbishopblog.com/2020/06/23/greek-philsopher-celsus-on-the-historical-jesus/#:~:text=On%20Christ%E2%80%99s%20miracles%2C%20Celsus%20argues%20that%20he%20worked,miracles%20are%20just%20fables%20invented%20by%20the%20disciples.
https://readingacts.com/2010/10/20/the-historical-reliability-of-jesus-miracles/
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/heyj.12161
13) The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled
https://stellarhousepublishing.com/josephus/
14) Sejanus
https://www.historyskills.com/classroom/ancient-history/sejanus/
15) Nazareth Inscription
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/nazareth-inscription-origins-may-refute-ties-jesus-resurrection
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth_Inscription
https://biblearchaeology.org/research/chronological-categories/new-testament-era/4658-the-nazareth-inscription-proof-of-the-resurrection-of-christ
https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2021/03/19/scholars-chair-interview-dr-clyde-billington/
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Episode 112 - Sy Garte says Science is not Enough
In this episode Matthew reviews a conversion story from the podcast Side B Stories, the episode features the scientist Dr Sy Garte. Dr Garte has written a book called Science and Faith in Harmony so Matthew examines Dr Garte's testimony to see where science features in the story.
1) Dr Garte on the Side B stories podcast
https://sidebstories.com/podcast/science-is-not-enough-dr-sy-gartes-story/
2) Dr Garte's website
https://sygarte.com/
Review of another book by St Garte
https://www.equip.org/articles/journey-to-the-bottom-of-the-glass-a-review-of-the-works-of-his-hands-a-scientists-journey-from-atheism-to-faith-by-sy-garte/
3) My conversations with Mike D'Virgilio on the Unbelievable? and Still Unbelievable! podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foThkxnpHFY&t=2s
https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-93---Mike-DVirgilio---Is-the-Bible-Uninvented-e20nu67
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Episode 111 - The Deconversion of Jake
Matthew interviews Jake about his deconversion from Christianity.
links to feed your curiosity......
That Bill Nye - Ken Ham debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kgvhG3AkI
YouTube channels to start with
https://www.youtube.com/@skydivephil
https://www.youtube.com/@DigitalGnosis
https://www.youtube.com/@GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic
https://www.youtube.com/c/gutsickgibbon
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Episode 110 - GunsIn this episode, Andrew and Matthew have a conversation with listener James about guns.Discussion on the second amendment and the right to bear arms- https://www.history.com/topics/united-states-constitution/2nd-amendmentSupreme court McDonald decision- https://www.britannica.com/event/McDonald-v-City-of-Chicago- guns and violent crime (data and commentary might differ)https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2022/debunking-myths-about-gun-violencehttps://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jun/06/andy-biggs/no-government-data-does-not-say-defensive-gun-use-/https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/fbi-misleads-americans-about-how-often-armed-citizens-stop-active-shooters-gun-violence-expert-claims/ar-AA1g3NSQhttps://www.npr.org/2018/04/13/602143823/how-often-do-people-use-guns-in-self-defense- going postal phrasehttps://www.vice.com/en/article/g5pabb/the-legacy-of-going-postal- New York gun laws updatehttps://ag.ny.gov/new-york-gun-lawshttps://www.npr.org/2022/07/08/1110477445/gun-applicants-social-media-accounts-new-yorkhttps://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/gun-applicants-new-york-will-hand-social-accounts-rcna37251To contact us, email: reasonpress@gmail.comour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@reasonpress2901Our Theme Music was written for us by Holly, to support her and to purchase her music use the links below:https://hollykirstensongs.com/https://hollykirsten.bandcamp.com/--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/message
In this episode Matthew reviews a Creationist podcast that gives tips on how to debate evolution with an atheist. The podcast is from the Think Institute, by Joel Settecase, who is a Young Earth Creationist. We reviewed Joel's justification of this position back in Episode 80. In this episode, Joel has conversations with atheists with the intention of picking holes in evolution. There is some low quality dialogue in the exchanges, so Matthew will also be criticising things that are said to Joel, this won't be a one sided critique.
1) https://thethink.institute/
2) Episode 80
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/Ra7ULmbZ2Eb
3) https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/22-how-to-debate-evolution-with-an-atheist/id1462722483?i=1000582330068
4) EAAN:
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_argument_against_naturalism
5) EAAN Refuted
https://stephenlaw.blogspot.com/2012/12/plantingas-evolutionary-argument.html
6) https://humanorigins.si.edu/education/how-do-we-know/how-do-we-know-humans-are-primates
7) https://www.darwinproject.ac.uk/letter/?docId=letters/DCP-LETT-13230.xml
8) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium
9) https://royalsocietypublishing.org/toc/rsfs/7/5
10) http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/polystrate/trees.html
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This is an episode we genuinely looked forward to recording. Andrew and Matthew talk with Derek Kubilus, author of the book Holy Hell, A Case Against Eternal Damnation. Derek is genuinely compassionate and that comes across in his writing. His acknowledgment of the harm that hell theology causes and his case against it presents a god that many will find more palatable or even attractive. If hell doctrine is something that bothers you or even if you only have a passing interesting in hell, then we highly recommend reading his book, it has the power the heal wounds. If you enjoy this conversation, Derek has also appeared on the Deconstructionists podcast.
Derek Kubilus
https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802883179/
Derek on The Deconstructionists podcast part 1 and 2
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derek-kubilus-holy-hell-a-case-against-eternal/id1080170463?i=1000633172265
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derek-kubilus-holy-hell-a-case-against-eternal/id1080170463?i=1000633945184
Terry Eagleton - Culture and the Death of God
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23360122-culture-and-the-death-of-god
Universalism
https://www.theopedia.com/universalism
Derek's Heaven Buddies Sermon
https://player.fm/series/the-united-methodist-church-of-uniontown/exilecast-heaven-buddies
Open Theism
https://iep.utm.edu/o-theism/
Devid Bentley Hart - The New Testament: A Translation
https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Testament-David-Bentley-Hart/dp/0300186096?ie=UTF8&tag=mh0a9-21&hvadid=&hvpos=&hvexid={aceid}&hvnetw=o&hvrand=&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_7dy1f5hemb_e
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Episode 107 - Stories and Legends
In this episode Andrew and Matthew are joined by David from Skeptics and Seekers to talk stories and legends. There is hilarity and seriousness, legends and even demons! Enjoy.
Exploring The Allegedly Grisly Meaning Behind ‘London Bridge Is Falling Down’
https://allthatsinteresting.com/london-bridge-is-falling-down-meaning
The legend of St David and St Non
St David is patron saint of Wales and St Non is his mother.
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/St-David-Patron-Saint-of-Wales/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_David
https://www.stdavidscathedral.org.uk/discover/history/St-Non
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/23393540.history-look-life-st-non-mother-st-david/
https://woww.narberthmuseum.co.uk/st-non/
Gelert the saviour dog
https://www.beddgelerttourism.com/gelert/
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/The-legend-of-brave-Gelert/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelert
show me the toes
https://showmethetoes.com/
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Matthew reviews an episode of Unbelievable from October 2021. A promo for the Premier Christianity course Confident Christianity featuring William Lane Craig, John Lennox, Amy Orr-Ewing and Gary Habermas. As usual, there are references below.
1) Unbelievable podcast - Confident Christianity October 1st 2012
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/confident-christianity-john-lennox-amy-orr-ewing-william/id267142101?i=1000537264086
2) Callumn Brown, death of Christian Britain
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9780203350423/death-christian-britain-callum-brown
https://reviews.history.ac.uk/review/236
3) Language Truth and Logic
https://archive.org/details/AlfredAyer
4) Verification
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/160940690200100202
5) Tim Hull
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/eFA0I31BLCb
6) God and other minds
https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/plantinga-gom.pdf
7) The Metaphilosophy of Naturalism
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271322119_The_Metaphilosophy_of_Naturalism
8) Sir Harry Kroto
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/may/02/sir-harry-kroto-nobel-prize-winning-chemist-dies-carbon
9) https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2011/jul/04/harry-kroto-science-truth
10) Erwin Schrödinger
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Schr%C3%B6dinger
11) ETS Walton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Walton#:~:text=Ernest%20Thomas%20Sinton%20Walton%20%286%20October%201903%20%E2%80%93,atom.%20This%20section%20needs%20additional%20citations%20for%20verification.
12) Ghillean Prance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghillean_Prance
13) George Kline Quote
https://www.compellingtruth.org/scientists-believe-God.html
14) Lee Rigby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby
15) textual criticism
https://www.britannica.com/topic/textual-criticism
16) Richard I
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_I_of_England
17) Maurice Casey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Casey
18) Alexander the Great in legend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great_in_legend
19) Historiography of Alexander the Great
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiography_of_Alexander_the_Great
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Episode 105 - Questions to engage an Agnostic AtheistIn this episode of Still Unbelievable! Matthew goes through a podcast from Stand to Reason. The show is hosted by Amy Hall and Greg Koukl. The specific episode being addressed is one where they give questions to ask someone who says they're agnostic atheist. This is a label we're happy to apply to ourselves. So it is only fair to engage with the questions they suggest. Lets see what they say.1) https://www.str.org/w/-strask-what-questions-would-you-ask-to-engage-an-agnostic-atheist-2) Michael Shermerhttps://michaelshermer.com/articles/are-you-an-atheist-or-agnostic/3) Agnostichttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/agnostic4) Doug Geivetthttps://www.biola.edu/directory/people/douglas-geivetthttps://douggeivett.wordpress.com/about/5) Atheisthttps://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/atheist6) https://www.str.org/w/do-atheists-lack-belief-in-god-To contact us, email: reasonpress@gmail.comOur Theme Music was written for us by Holly, to support her and to purchase her music use the links below:https://hollykirstensongs.com/https://hollykirsten.bandcamp.com/--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/still-unbelievable/message
Episode 104 - Can Christians convince us of the resurrection? In this episode Matthew responds to a Christian podcast addressing atheist arguments against the resurrection. Can the things they say get us to reconsider our denial of the resurrection as an historical event?
Original YouTube video
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxsonUSCKcc
Paulogia on YouTube
2) https://www.youtube.com/@Paulogia
3) Seam McDowell video
https://youtu.be/elXMJoJA3cQ
4) Sean McDowell 480 page document on martyrdom on the apostles
https://repository.sbts.edu/handle/10392/4857
https://repository.sbts.edu/bitstream/handle/10392/4857/McDowell_sbts_0207D_10221.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y
5) Polycarp
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Martyrdom-of-Polycarp
https://discerninghistory.com/2016/01/polycarp-the-man-the-flames-would-not-touch/
6) Gospel names
https://www.worldhistory.org/The_Gospels/
7) Brant Pitre is classic apologist
https://vridar.org/2016/02/09/why-the-anonymous-gospels-failure-of-scholarship-in-pitres-the-case-for-jesus/
https://vridar.org/2016/03/08/the-arguments-for-and-against-the-anonymity-of-the-canonical-gospels/
https://www.worldhistory.org/The_Gospels/
https://jameshiscoxblogs.wordpress.com/2016/08/26/apologetics-vs-real-scholarship-on-the-dating-and-authorship-of-the-gospels/
http://www.humanreligions.info/gospels.html#Anon
https://brill.com/view/journals/nt/50/2/article-p120_2.xml
8) Origen
https://brill.com/view/journals/scri/12/1/article-p181_11.xml?language=en
9) Swoon Hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swoon_hypothesis
10) Miracle of the sun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_the_Sun
11) Martyrs deaths
http://www.equip.org/PDF/JAF1392.pdf
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Andrew and Matthew have a conversation with Daniel, a Palestinian Christian.
An Open Letter from Palestinian Christians to Western Church Leaders and Theologians
https://www.change.org/p/an-open-letter-from-palestinian-christians-to-western-church-leaders-and-theologians
Daniel on the New Evangelicals podcast
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2CeHsj52D0tqgda0kJBpuS
Across the Divide Podcast
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/across-the-divide/id1714814860
https://open.spotify.com/show/5PrVCyafdQdh8Jpz5gZNyR
A fitting metaphor for Gaza
https://www.dawn.com/news/1787145
Gaza: Israel’s ‘Open-Air Prison’ at 15
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15
Half of Gaza's population is under 18. Here's what that means for the conflict
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/18/1206897328/half-of-gazas-population-is-under-18-heres-what-that-means-for-the-conflict#:~:text=Of%20the%20more%20than%202%20million%20people%20living,bracing%20for%20an%20Israeli%20ground%20invasion%20are%20children.
The argument that Israel practices apartheid, explained
https://www.vox.com/23924319/israel-palestine-apartheid-meaning-history-debate
Balfour Declaration: Theresa May hosts Israeli PM for centenary
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41819451
The Hundred Years' War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi review – conquest and resistance
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/07/the-hundred-years-war-on-palestine-by-rashid-khalidi-review-conquest-and-resistance
International Poverty Line: Definition, Criticism, Uses
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/international-poverty-line.asp#:~:text=The%20international%20poverty%20line%20is%20a%20monetary%20threshold,poverty%20line%20is%20%242.15%20per%20person%20per%20day.
An Israeli ministry, in a 'concept paper,' proposes transferring Gaza civilians to Egypt's Sinai
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-ministry-concept-paper-proposes-transferring-gaza-civilians-104487924
Debating Israei Ethnocracy and the Challenge of Secular Democracy:
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/230811/pdf
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In this second episode, Andrew and Matthew continue their discussion with Eric, this time talking about the current conflict in Gaza and the modern history that contextualises it.
Profile: Mahmoud Abbas
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20033995
Hamas Covenant 1988
The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp
The story about beheaded babies is probably false.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/10/decapitated-babies-claim-intent-dehumanization.html
The hospital bombing was probably not Israel and the number of casualties is likely overstated
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67144061
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/cnn-investigates-forensic-analysis-gaza-hospital-blast/index.html
Hamas takes control of Gaza - 2007
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jun/15/israel4
What is a human shield and how has Hamas been accused of using them?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/30/human-shield-israel-claim-hamas-command-centre-under-hospital-palestinian-civilian-gaza-city
Israel claims Gaza's largest hospital is a Hamas command centre, but Palestinians and others reject claim
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-27-23/h_acdbf216cc4de120872cf48b55541c63
UN Conflict Casualties
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
1948 Palestine war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestine_war
THE WEST BANK WAS ANNEXED ONCE BEFORE. IT ENDED IN REGRET.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/martinkramer/files/the_west_bank_was_annexed_once_before._it_ended_in_regret._.pdf
Ernest Bevin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Bevin
Memri TV Archives
https://www.memri.org/tv/archives
Israeli disengagement from Gaza
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza
2006 Palestinian legislative election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election
Battle of Gaza (2007)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaza_(2007)
Netanyahu Accused of 'Genocidal Intentions' in Gaza After 'Holy Mission' Speech
https://www.commondreams.org/news/netanyahu-genocide
Gaza’s food system has been stretched to breaking point by Israel
https://theconversation.com/gazas-food-system-has-been-stretched-to-breaking-point-by-israel-188556
How Jenin battle became a 'massacre'
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2002/may/06/mondaymediasection5
Explainer: When are attacks on civilian infrastructure war crimes?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/when-are-attacks-civilian-infrastructure-war-crimes-2022-12-16/
Hamas Quietly Admits It Fired Rockets from Civilian Areas
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/09/hamas-quietly-admits-it-fired-rockets-from-civilian-areas/380149/
The United Nations — From Ally to Antisemitic
https://www.newsweek.com/united-nations-ally-antisemitic-platform-opinion-1636252
UN Watch
https://unwatch.org/en-observant-les-observateurs/
Hamas commits war crimes
https://jcpa.org/the-gaza-war-2014/legal-aspects-hamas-war-on-israel/
Israel war crimes
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlawful-use-of-white-phosphorus-in-southern-lebanon-as-cross-border-hostilities-escalate/
UNRWA STRONGLY CONDEMNS PLACEMENT OF ROCKETS IN SCHOOL
https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-strongly-condemns-placement-rockets-school
UN resolutions against Israel compared
https://unwatch.org/2022-2023-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-of-the-world/
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In this special bonus Episode, Andrew and Matthew welcome Eric to talk about the history of Israel.
History of Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
History of Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_State_of_Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine
British Mandate on Palestine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_for_Palestine
Gaza is not friendly to the LGBT+ community
https://epgn.com/2019/08/22/some-palestinians-don-t-forget-to-kill-the-homosexuals/
Dreyfus Affair
https://jewishunpacked.com/what-was-the-dreyfus-affair/
Mahmoud Abbas addresses the UN Sept 21, 2023.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141237
Abraham Accords
https://www.abraham-accords.uk/
https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2020/10/23/the-abraham-accords-a-peace-deal-in-name-only/
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Lords/2023-09-14/debates/7F307569-9A0D-40F0-9863-53806E19349E/AbrahamAccords
https://mei.edu/publications/two-pillars-abraham-accords
The 2002 Arab Peace Initiative
https://israeled.org/resources/documents/2002-arab-peace-initiative/
US ambassador Phillip Lader on BBC question time 2001-09-13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of6fsC9mOyU
Animated History of the Israel Palestine conflict
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYZjOuUnlU
Animated History of the Jews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIYHMdOr5Aw
A Brief History of Palestine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DadVT2Ux_4
A longer History of Palestine (which tells a different perspective to the video above)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUCeQt8zg5o
Merneptah Stele
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah_Stele
The Origins of the Ancient Israelite States
https://vdoc.pub/documents/the-origins-of-the-ancient-israelite-states-jsot-supplement-series-7dm6fak708e0
Tel Dan stele
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Dan_stele
Maccabean Revolt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabean_Revolt
Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan
Bar Kokhba Revolt
https://www.britannica.com/event/Bar-Kokhba-Revolt
How Christian Europe created anti-Semitism in the Middle Ages
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/culture/how-christian-europe-created-anti-semitism-in-the-middle-ages/47800164
The Shock of the Black Death
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/persecution-and-toleration/shock-of-the-black-death/F8E3957BC21A02DA40E0DDEB50696D77
Ion Mihai Pacepa, Romanian spy
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2021/02/25/ion-mihai-pacepa-romanian-spy-star-defector-revealed-sordid/
Israel and Gaza maps: How the borders have changed throughout history and where Palestinians live
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/israel-gaza-maps-borders-changed-history-where-palestinians-live-2690900
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54116567
PLO History
https://remix.aljazeera.com/aje/PalestineRemix/plo.html
http://palestineun.org/about-palestine/palestine-liberation-organization/
Hajj Amin al-Husayni meets Hitler
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/film/hajj-amin-al-husayni-meets-hitler
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/hajj-amin-al-husayni-wartime-propagandist
Operation Barbarossa
https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/what-was-operation-barbarossa
The Holocaust as Seen by Its Perpetrators and Bystanders
http://www.faculty.umb.edu/lawrence_blum/courses/290h_09/readings/klee_pushed_to_their_psychological_limits.pdf
Himmler visits Minsk
https://www.holocausthistoricalsociety.org.uk/contents/einsatzgruppen/himmlervisitsminsk.html
Allied forces knew about Holocaust two years before discovery of concentration camps
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-history/holocaust-allied-forces-knew-before-concentration-camp-discovery-us-uk-soviets-secret-documents-a7688036.html
Ask Project YouTube channel
https://www.youtube.com/@CoreyGilShusterAskProject
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In this episode Matthew chats with Stephen from Ravel podcast. Stephen admitted on a recent episode that he no longer considered himself Christian, so naturally we wanted to have a conversation with him. As it turns out, we had a fabulous one. we hope you enjoy it as much as we did.
Ravel Podcast
https://www.instagram.com/ravelpod/
https://www.owltail.com/podcast/1AdkF-Ravel/episodes
Beer Christianity
https://www.beerchristianity.co.uk/
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This episode of Still Unbelievable is a replay of a conversation that Andrew and I had with Philip Goff and Brian Blaise. The original conversation is Episode 3 of the Proscenium podcast, if you have not already listened to that, then this episode is a conversation where we invited philosopher Philip Goff to discuss Panpsychism and his book Galileo's Error, which I recommend.
We invited Brian Blaise to join the conversation because we though that Philip and Brian would have a conversation worth listening to. I think you'll find we made a good call.
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In this Episode of Still Unbelivceable! Andrew and Matthew chat with Christian listener, William Gretton, who contacted us proposing a conversation. As a result we had a genuinely enjoyable discussion. Of course we didn't agree on everything. But we did agree with grace and William showed us that it is possible to have these conversations and to part with a respect and liking for our fellow humans. May we all have more of these.
Matthew's music video appearance: Green Brick Pub
https://youtu.be/FO7acv-4abw
William's book: No Deals Mr President
https://amzn.eu/d/as9XEua
William's Granddaughter is also an author (and a former Olympic Swimmer).
To read Ellie's book, follow this link.
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Matthew on the Unbelievable? podcast with Mike D'Virgilio
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/uninvented-are-the-stories-of-jesus-too-unusual-to/id267142101?i=1000597920064
https://youtu.be/foThkxnpHFY
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Episode 100 - One hundred episodes of hate.
To celebrate Still Unbelievable! reaching 100 episodes over four years, Andrew and Matthew invite Clint and Darren to chat about why they do what they do and to address the very specific accusation that they hate Christians.
The BITE model of control
https://www.alittlebithuman.com/the-bite-model-of-cult-mind-control-explained/
Clint's Mindshift Podcast
https://mindshiftpodcast.co.uk/
I was a Teenage Fundamentalist Podcast
https://www.iwasateenagefundamentalist.com/podcast/
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in this episode of Still Unbelievable Matthew is joined by David from Skeptics and Seekers to interview Heather Wells, author of the book Trustworthy, a Journey from American Christianity to Freedom. Heather writes powerfully about her life experience and that comes across as David and I describe our reactions to her book. Heather has also been interviewed by David, the Graceful Atheist, see the show notes for a link to that episode and for other links to resources helpful to the those journeying away from Christianity.
Buy the book here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trustworthy-Journey-American-Christianity-Freedom-ebook/dp/B0BD18FZ12
https://www.kobo.com/gb/en/ebook/trustworthy-a-journey-from-american-christianity-to-freedom
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1319756
Heather on the Graceful Atheist podcast:
https://gracefulatheist.com/2022/11/06/heather-wells-trustworthy/
Recovering From Religion
https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/
Journey Free
https://www.journeyfree.org/
Janice Selbie
https://twitter.com/Wise_counsellor
https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/
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Bart Ehrman
https://www.bartehrman.com/
Armageddon on Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bart+ehrman+armageddon&adgrpid=1184175078655947&hvadid=74011170480282&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=69110&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-74011193619739%3Aloc-188&hydadcr=11904_2290925&tag=mh0a9-21&ref=pd_sl_215yrdn1k9_e
Olivet Discourse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivet_Discourse
Preterism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism
Bart Ehrman on the Graceful Atheist podcast
https://gracefulatheist.com/2023/04/09/bart-d-ehrman-armageddon/
Bart Ehrman on I was a Teenage Fundamentalist
https://iwasateenagefundamentalist.podbean.com/e/074-armageddon-isn-t-coming-with-bart-ehrman/
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In this episode Andrew and Matthew are joined by David and Michael, two of our fellow authors from Still Unbelievable! the book. We spent 3 hours going through the listener comments from my appearance on Unbelievable? where I conversed with Mike D'Virgilio about his book, Uninvented. This episode goes very long, and we have a good time picking apart the variety of comments, there is laughter and there is frustration. Various resources are mentioned and as always, the links are in the show notes.
Matthew on Unbelievable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foThkxnpHFY&t=4117s
Unbelievable? podcasts
https://www.premierchristianity.com/podcasts/unbelievable
Matthew talking Miracles with David on Skeptics and Seekers
https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/blog-1/4s-s2e3-miracles
https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/
Read Still Unbelievable! for free
https://www.reasonpress.net/SU1E/Introduction
Israel Finkelstein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Finkelstein
Rank–Raglan mythotype
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank%E2%80%93Raglan_mythotype
What Happened In A.D. 70? The Destruction of Jerusalem
https://www.amazon.com/What-Happened-D-Destruction-Jerusalem/dp/193284404X
Matthew Talking about Miracles on Skeptics and Seekers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiLK1Oi_TCw
Derren Brown on Unbelievable?
https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-zdf8x-153b78
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-4ew3m-63245d
https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-dihn7-63245e
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In this Episode, Matthew makes reference to an incident where he misquotes Jonathan. The original YoutTube conversation is at this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdcd3lTmv9c&t=1s
The Still Unbelievable! episode of the audio is available at:
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/WJi4zgDaezb
The segment where I misquoted Jonathan is in my intro where I make reference to millions of years for a specific mutation to arise. The Audio from Jonathan that is being referenced is at 49m though 53m. I think what I did was during my research following the episode I mixed up the ape and the whale examples that Jonathan references and that mental mixup resulted in an innacurate representation. As stated in this episode, Jonathan was very gracious in his response to me on that.
Alpha video 2: Who is Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtTnSMNtE44
New Testament manuscripts compared with those of other ancient texts
https://truthfaithandreason.com/case-making-101-how-does-the-bible-compare-to-other-ancient-documents/
https://carm.org/about-the-bible/manuscript-evidence-for-superior-new-testament-reliability/
https://reformedwiki.com/bible-ancient-texts-voddie
Myths and Mistakes in New Testament Textual Criticism
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Myths-Mistakes-Testament-Textual-Criticism/dp/0830852573
F. F. Bruce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._F._Bruce
300 Prophesies fulfilled by Jesus
https://www.clintbyars.com/blog/2020/7/20/jesus-fulfilled-over-300-prophecies#:~:text=365%20Prophecies%20Fulfilled%20by%20Jesus%20%20%20,%20%203%3A36%20%2024%20more%20rows%20
Timothy McGrew on the Arguments from Silence (I could not find a free to read version)
https://philpapers.org/rec/MCGTAF-2
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271972928_The_Argument_from_Silence
Expulsion of Jews from Rome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudius%27_expulsion_of_Jews_from_Rome
Christian Evidence Society
https://christianevidence.org/
Still Unbelievable episodes 73 and 74 on The Christian Evidence Society sessions
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/66k5ars3Czb
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/YO8gmqs3Czb
Bishop of Durham, David Jenkins Controversy
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/06/david-jenkins-bishop-durham-biblical-facts-fire-york-minster
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Episode 95 Ridiculous Reasons to Believe
In this short episode Matthew will be picking apart a video from Reasons to Believe that William Lane Craig posted on his twitter timeline in March 2023.
The sequence is titled, Did Jesus rise from the dead? Part 1, the facts. See link 1 for the full 6.5 minute video and the additional follow on videos. There is a very simple objection to any claim about Jesus rising from the dead, and that is, all claims start from the assumption that the gospel accounts are truthfully reporting events that actually happened. We don't know this, and we can't know this, which is why starting from this position and then using this unsupportable starting point to argue for the literal resurrection of Jesus is unreasonable.
1) https://www.reasonablefaith.org/did-jesus-rise-from-the-dead
2) https://www.history.com/news/resurrection-stories-ancient-cultures
3) https://listverse.com/2013/03/30/10-resurrected-religious-figures/
4) https://www.britannica.com/topic/textual-criticism
5) https://overviewbible.com/how-did-the-apostles-die/
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In this episode of Still Unbelievable!, Andrew and Matthew give a brief update on what's going in their lives outside of Still Unbelievable! and then give thoughts on Matthew's appearance on the Unbelievable? podcast and some shows with Christians that have they've recently recorded.
As always, please see the show notes for items that are discussed.
Brian Blais
https://bblais.github.io/
Mike D'Virgilio
https://mikedvirgilio.com/
Jonathan McLatchie
https://jonathanmclatchie.com/
Matthew's Conversation with Mike D'Virgilio
https://www.stitcher.com/show/unbelievable/episode/uninvented-are-the-stories-of-jesus-too-unusual-to-have-been-made-up-mike-dvirgilio-vs-matthew-taylor-211507478
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Mike D'Virgilio
https://mikedvirgilio.com/
Matthew and Mike on Unbelievable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foThkxnpHFY&t=4117s
Unbelievable? podcasts
https://www.premierchristianity.com/podcasts/unbelievable
The Robe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Robe
Jesus of Nazareth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_of_Nazareth_(TV_series)
Blog post listing 50 Separate Extrabiblical Verifications of Luke’s Historical Accuracy
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2022/02/evangelist-luke-archaeology-history.html
Suetonius on Crossing the Rubicon
https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Latin/Suetonius1.php#anchor_Toc276121854
Book One: XXXII The Die is Cast
As he stood there, undecided, he received a sign. A being of marvellous stature and beauty appeared suddenly, seated nearby, and playing on a reed pipe. A knot of shepherds gathered to listen, but when a crowd of his soldiers, including some of the trumpeters, broke ranks to join them, the apparition snatched a trumpet from one of them, ran to the river, and sounding the call to arms blew a thunderous blast, and crossed to the far side. At this, Caesar exclaimed: ‘Let us follow the summons, of the gods’ sign and our enemy’s injustice. The die is cast.’
skydivephil on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/user/skydivephil
Our conversation with Sky Dive Phil
https://spotifyanchor-web.app.link/e/8v6CsH2Bczbhttps://www.stitcher.com/show/ask-an-atheist-anything-2/episode/episode-11-talking-cosmology-with-skydivephil-77966367
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Andrew and Matthew and joined by Phil Halper, who own the YouTube channel skydivephil where he posts excellent videos on cosmology.
Phil also wrote two chapters of our book Still Unbelievable! and has appeared on other podcasts, including Unbelievable?
Before the big bang playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry_pILPr7B8&list=PLJ4zAUPI-qqqj2D8eSk7yoa4hnojoCR4m
Cosmology playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ4zAUPI-qqrC4ce700XI8JjeeC3l70NZ
QLC video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgwJmWXoWWI
Black Holes and Dark Matter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFJtDLR4bTo
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Episode 91, Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down. In this episode Andrew and Matthew welcome Bekah McNeel to talk about her book and the deconstruction that prompted it. Bekah is an engaging author and a delightful individual and we both thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. We also highly recommend her book, it is insightful. Towards the end of this episode we touch on Bekah's next book and we hope to have her back when that is out. In the meantime, if you know someone or you are someone, who can speak authoritatively on gun violence or on abortion and how each are impacted by fundamentalist Christianity, then please get in touch we are actively seeking out guests for both those subjects. Reasonpress@gmail.com
Bekah McNeel
https://bekahmcneel.com/about/
https://twitter.com/BekahMcneel
Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down
https://bekahmcneel.com/book/
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In this episode we chat with Justin Brierley, host of the very popular Premier Unbelievable? podcast.
We'd really enjoyed this chat with Justin, but we didn't get to cover many of the questions that we gathered, so we will ask and try to have him back again.
We cover a little bit of his show and we also talk about arguments for Christianity and why people leave Christianity.
Listen to (or watch) Matthew's appearance on Unbelievable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foThkxnpHFY
https://www.stitcher.com/show/unbelievable/episode/uninvented-are-the-stories-of-jesus-too-unusual-to-have-been-made-up-mike-dvirgilio-vs-matthew-taylor-211507478
Andrew on Unbelievable? discussing the book Still Unbelievable!
https://unbelievable.podbean.com/e/can-justin-defend-his-own-book-feat-david-johnson-andrew-knight-randal-rauser/
Read Still Unbelievable! for free
https://www.reasonpress.net/SU1E/Introduction
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In this episode, Andrew and Matthew are joined by Aaron and Tim to talk over the subject of, properly understood, the bible is the most potent force for atheism. This is a great episode that we enjoyed immensely, thank you to both of our guests.
Arron ricker
https://mcgill.academia.edu/AaronRicker
Tim O Neill
https://historyforatheists.com/about-the-author-and-a-faq/
Jesus The Jew
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jesus-Jew-Classics-Geza-Vermes/dp/0334028396
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Jew
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Talking about the Resurrection
In this Episode, Ed Atkinson joins Andrew and Matthew to discuss the Resurrection of Jesus and how we dealt with the minimal facts in Episode 83. Ed was part of the team behind the book Still Unbelievable! and wrote the chapter on the resurrection.
Matthew's recent appearance on Unbelievable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foThkxnpHFY
Ed's Doubts Aloud Podcast:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/247243319147813/
https://player.fm/series/doubts-aloud-podcast
Peter Enns:
https://www.eastern.edu/peter-enns
https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/
James Crossley:
https://syndicate.network/symposia/theology/jesus-and-the-chaos-of-history/
Phantom Vibration
https://www.phantomvibrationsyndrome.com/why-does-it-feel-like-my-phone-is-vibrating-when-its-not/#:~:text=The%20main%20cause%20for%20phantom%20vibration%20syndrome%20is,controlling%20this%20symptom%20and%20they%20include%20the%20following%3A
Mark Goodachre
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/scholar/mark-goodacre/
https://podacre.blogspot.com/
Robyn Walsh
https://people.miami.edu/profile/8b65d0bdbf97af63671314512424a475
Unbelievable? with Crossley and Habermas
https://backtracks.fm/discover/s/unbelievable/1cf6c8e84860992b/e/do-the-minimal-facts-support-the-resurrection-gary-habermas-james-crossley/b9cee096d599ad5b
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Episode 87, Polytheism. In this episode of Still Unbeliveable! Andrew and Matthew Welcome Steven Dillion to discuss Polytheism.
The episode art is the Greek god Asclepius (also Asklepios), the reason why is revealed at the end of the show.
Steven Dillon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1785359797/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_RRE1TDRKKC717G44ETY9_0
https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/moon-books/authors/steven-dillon
Prof. Michael Huemer:
https://www.owl232.net/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Huemer
further details on Henadacity
https://henadology.wordpress.com/philosophy/
Asclepius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asclepius
Red Letters Season Finale:
https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/red-letters-discussion/4s-with-red-letters-season-1-finale-end-of-the-road
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Andrew and Matthew welcome Young Earth Creationist, Ben, to discuss what it means to be a YEC and why Ben is convinced it's the correct conclusion.
Additional Links provided by Ben after editing completed:
Chicxulub (Yucatan site): Clarey, T. L. 2017. Do the Data Support a Large Meteorite Impact at Chicxulub? Answers Research Journal. 10: 71-88. https://answersresearchjournal.org/large-meteorite-impact-chicxulub/
Numerical Simulation of the Large-Scale Tectonic Changes Accompanying the Flood, John Baumgardner. Proceedings of the First International Conference on Creationism, R. E. Walsh, C. L. Brooks, & R. S. Crowell (Eds.), pp. 17–28, 1986. https://www.icr.org/article/large-scale-tectonic-change-flood/
Physical Mechanism for Reversals of the Earth's Magnetic Field During the Flood, Russell Humphreys. Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Creationism, R. E. Walsh & C. L. Brooks (Eds.), pp. 129–140, 1990. https://www.icr.org/article/reversals-earths-magnetic-field-flood/
‘Fossil’ magnetism reveals rapid reversals of the earth’s magnetic field, Andrew Snelling. Creation 13(3):46–50, June 1991. https://creation.com/fossil-magnetism-reveals-rapid-reversals-of-the-earths-magnetic-field
Catastrophic Plate Tectonics major paper: Austin, Stephen A. et. al. (1994). Catastrophic Plate Tectonics: A Global Flood Model of Earth History. Proceedings of the Third International Conference on Creationism, R. E. Walsh (Ed.), pp. 609–621. https://www.icr.org/article/catastrophic-plate-tectonics-flood-model/
Matthews numbered links, referenced in the show:
Ben's podcast: Macrophage Strategy
1) https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/macrophage-strategy/3962530
Eric Pianka links
2) https://biodiversity.utexas.edu/people/influential-people-in-texas-biodiversity/eric-pianka
3) http://www.cathyyoung.net/speech/Piankaspeech.htm - speech transcript
Tucker Carlson TV Interview
4) https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=professor+eric+pianka&docid=608032679459840399∣=C87D7B7236A026BF2100C87D7B7236A026BF2100&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
Evolution News inaccurate reporting
5) https://evolutionnews.org/2006/04/doctor_doom_eric_pianka_receiv/
Tim Clarey - ICR
6) https://www.icr.org/article/grand-canyon-carved-by-flood-runoff
7) https://blogs.agu.org/mountainbeltway/2014/03/18/on-ignorance-bias-data-and-the-tentative-nature-of-interpretations/
Tim Clarey - Yukatan
8) https://www.icr.org/article/chicxulub-crater-theory-mostly-smoke
9) https://astronomy.com/news/2021/03/asteroid-dust-found-at-chicxulub-crater-confirms-cause-of-dinosaurs-extinction
Thermal Runaway (Runaway Subduction)
10) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_runaway
11) https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/icc_proceedings/vol3/iss1/14/
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Episode 85: 7 Questions for Atheists by Dr Michael Brown
This is Matthew and in this episode of Still Unbelievable! Andrew and I are joined by friends who are repeat guests to answer questions for Atheists by Dr Michael Brown. To see his list of questions, see link 1 in the show notes. As part of our response to the first question, Andrew gives a couple of resources for those struggling with religious issues, these are can be found in Links 2 and 3, link 3 covers most countries around the world, not just the USA. Links 4 and 5 are UK based resources I was able to find.
Also during the discussion Andrew references a discussion with Brian Blais on miracles, that is Epsiode 84, and finally David mentions his Red Letters blog and book, see link 6.
Enjoy the show.
1) https://www.christianpost.com/voices/7-honest-questions-for-atheists.html
2) https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/hotline-project2
3) https://www.seculartherapy.org/
4) https://www.hopevalleycounselling.com/resources
5) https://www.religionrehab.co.uk/
6) David's RedLetters blog and book redletters: https://www.patreon.com/redletters
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Episode 84 Miracles.
We welcome returning guest Brian Blais to talk about miracles. Andrew gives an update on the failed prayer to heal his eyesight, and towards the end of the show, she have a special appearance by David from Skeptics and Seekers.
For further discussion regarding the shoe on the roof NDE story that we raise and Gary Habermas likes to promote see the digital gnosis youtube video in link 1. It's a very long video and they talk about a lot of cases, including this one, including the detail that one of the accounts is 4th hand and 7 years later. Something that Gary Habermas fails to mention.
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TdLoGpIu3Q&t=11263s
Digitial Gnosis Bad Apologetics series:
2) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Mar/23/a-long-discussion-about-miracles/
Brian's blog:
3) https://bblais.github.io
All about miracles from the blog:
4) https://bblais.github.io/search.html?q=miracles
Why we need double-blind studies:
5) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/May/31/why-do-we-need-double-blind-studies/
The Mozambique study discussion:
6) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Mar/23/a-long-discussion-about-miracles/#therapeutic-effects-of-proximal-intercessory-prayer-in-rural-mozambique
Original mozambique prayer study paper on researchgate
7) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/45505841_Study_of_the_Therapeutic_Effects_of_Proximal_Intercessory_Prayer_STEPP_on_Auditory_and_Visual_Impairments_in_Rural_Mozambique
Another critique of the paper
8) https://www.patheos.com/blogs/epiphenom/2011/02/truly-dreadful-study-into-effects-of.html
Double blind accupuncture study
9) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4352029/
The macular degeneration "miracle":
10) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Mar/23/a-long-discussion-about-miracles/#case-report-of-instantaneous-resolution-of-juvenile-macular-degeneration-blindness-after-proximal-intercessory-prayer
The pool table "miracle":
11) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Mar/23/a-long-discussion-about-miracles/#jp-moreland-gets-a-pool-table
Brian's responses to John McLatchie:
Dubious medical procedures:
12) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2020/Jul/09/skepticism-and-dubious-medical-procedures/
On what would convince Brian:
13) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Jan/24/ongoing-conversation-with-jonathan-mclatchie/
Bayes, prophecy, etc...:
14) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Jan/18/bad-apologetics/
Resurrection vs Proton Decay:
15) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Jan/17/proton-decay-and-the-resurrection-of-jesus/
Some comments and math on testimony:
16) https://bblais.github.io/posts/2022/Jun/14/sometimes-more-testimony-is-worse/
Item on NDEs, which includes the shoe on the roof that we discuss.
17) https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1340&context=lts_fac_pubs
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Andrew and Matthew discuss and review a Christian podcast talking about the Minimal Facts claims for the resurrection.
Original Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYbzPdROPUY
Critique of the Criterion of embarrassment:
1) https://skepticink.com/humesapprentice/2014/08/21/the-criterion-of-embarrassment/
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT3hdI5Peo4&t=1136s
3) https://www.routledge.com/Oral-Tradition-A-Study-in-Historical-Methodology/Vansina/p/book/9780202308197#
4) http://www.ericlevy.com/Revel/Intro2/Hoerth%20-%20Egyptians.PDF
5) https://academic.oup.com/book/6259
6) https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hy_RBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA36&lpg=PA36&dq=what+makes+%22meryibre%27s%22+confessions+credible&source=bl&ots=vLqCl6quxr&sig=ACfU3U3ETZRv9MxTwDp5j-daXJMSMT0MCw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjYhYCFrqD5AhWNS8AKHTwOAYQQ6AF6BAgCEAM#v=onepage&q=what%20makes%20%22meryibre's%22%20confessions%20credible&f=false
7) https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/no-saul-the-persecutor-did-not-become-paul-the-apostle/
Download the PDF of the Gerd Ludemann - WLC debate
8) https://vdoc.pub/download/resurrection-fact-or-fiction-a-debate-between-william-lane-craig-gerd-ludemann-2osj9tmr9k8g
9) https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Resurrection_of_Christ.html?id=GRHZAAAAMAAJ&redir_esc=y
Paul Timeline
10) https://www.understandchristianity.com/timelines/chronology-pauls-ministry/
11) https://totallyhistory.com/biblical-history/paul-the-apostle-timeline/
12) https://christianhistoryinstitute.org/magazine/article/apostle-paul-timeline
13) https://www.blueletterbible.org/study/paul/timeline.cfm
Jesus Timeline
14) https://www.oxfordbiblechurch.co.uk/index.php/teachings/bible-chronology/2572-the-chronology-of-jesus-from-john-s-gospel
15) https://bible-history.com/chart-jesus-chronology/
16) https://www.datesandevents.org/people-timelines/36-timeline-of-jesus.htm
17) https://christianity.org.uk/article/timeline-of-jesus-life
18) https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/themelios/article/four-other-gospels-review-article/
19) https://alchetron.com/John-Dominic-Crossan
20) http://www.biblicalcatholic.com/CraigCrossanDebate.mp3
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Matthew reviews episode 94 of When Belief Dies, in which they interview John Lennox
Episode 94 of When Belief Dies
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF6JySDwrHQ
2) https://open.spotify.com/show/5nUeWwl36pBXpPSXFsP5R0
Dawkins on scientism
3) https://unherd.com/thepost/richard-dawkins-scientism-is-a-dirty-word/
4) https://terebess.hu/keletkultinfo/The_Blind_Watchmaker.pdf
Review of Nagel's book
5) https://ndpr.nd.edu/reviews/mind-and-cosmos-why-the-materialist-neo-darwinian-conception-of-nature-is-almost-certainly-false/
6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynn_Margulis
7) https://books.google.ca/books?id=HqflJ99KzsEC&pg=PA830&lpg=PA830&dq=ridley+%2B+%22who+doubts+evolution%22&source=bl&ots=CLv--5pAgs&sig=dMCnStG9LevjawmiiYMoQrJ3Op8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwib0c7i-fHXAhVK5YMKHfBMD2wQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=ridley%20%2B%20%22who%20doubts%20evolution%22&f=false
8) http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part3.html
9) https://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/part1-4.html
10) https://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=8-Xm_gQgboUC&oi=fnd&pg=PA51&ots=4oJQb-7EFA&sig=iPZW_ejg-26aXe0QIF0_RCeaQMQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
11) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_Flew
12) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-3-what-is-panpsychism/id1436336109?i=1000465737651
13) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_McClintock
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Matthew has a conversation with Pauline, a UK resident of French descent. In this episode we cover Christianity in France, France's challenges in maintaining a secular society, difficulties in the UK Evangelical church, and poor mental health.
UK Exvangelical Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2218653308373098
New Frontiers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfrontiers
Terry Virgo:
https://www.terryvirgo.org/
https://www.youtube.com/terryvirgoonline
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In this episode, Matthew picks apart a podcast where a Christian justifies why they are a Young Earth Creationist.
1: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/worldview-legacy/9-why-i-am-a-young-earth--4HLGsCO95w/
2: https://anchor.fm/still-unbelievable/episodes/Episode-19-YEC-is-not-only-wrong--its-dangerous-e5lbto
3: https://biologos.org/series/science-and-the-bible/articles/theistic-evolution-history-and-beliefs
4: https://icecores.org/about-ice-cores
5: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/article/how-tree-rings-date-archaeological-site
6: https://place.asburyseminary.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=jibs
7: https://answersingenesis.org/answers/books/taking-back-astronomy/about-the-author/
8: https://answersingenesis.org/astronomy/starlight/distant-starlight-thesis/
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In this episode, Matthew reviews a podcast where Christians give their take on about how to talk to an atheist.
Unapologetic video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8FlPrP3OM
Dealing With Deconstruction YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/c/DealingWithDeconstruction
1) Mental Health awareness
https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/campaigns/mental-health-awareness-week
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Matthew has a chat with the Tall Friendly Atheist Dad.
The Tall Friendly Atheist Dad Podcast:
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-tall-friendly-atheist-dad-podcast-the-MZFjCa6HNxi/
Let's Save The Governor-General!
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/lets-save-the-governor-general-save-general-vREYh2GUDwp/
Wrestling With Atheism:
https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/wrestling-with-atheism-wrestling-with-atheism-ykuaBLKSpMW/
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Matthew addresses an episode of Unbelievable? where New Testament scholars Dale Allison and Justin Bass discuss their different approaches to the evidence for Jesus' resurrection.
1) https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Is-there-historical-evidence-for-the-bodily-resurrection-of-Jesus-Justin-Bass-Dale-Allison
2) https://www.ptsem.edu/people/dale-c-allison-jr
3) https://lexhampress.com/product/183925/the-bedrock-of-christianity-the-unalterable-facts-of-jesus-death-and-resurrection
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Andrew and Matthew discus the main 6 minimal facts, made popular by Gary Habermas, and ask themselves if these facts move them closer to accepting the resurrection of Jesus, and if not, why not!
Sceptical source:
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Minimal_facts_argument
Christian Sources:
https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=sod_fac_pubs
https://ses.edu/minimal-facts-on-the-resurrection-that-even-skeptics-accept/
https://crossexamined.org/the-minimal-facts-of-the-resurrection/
http://christianapologeticsalliance.com/2013/11/13/minimal-facts-method/
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/158970423.pdf
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Matthew examines the claims of Casey Luskin on a recent episode of the Unbelievable? podcast.
Casey Luskin:
1) https://www.discovery.org/p/luskin/
Adam Shapiro
2) https://www.americanscientist.org/author/adam_shapiro
3) https://www.discovery.org/b/comprehensive-guide-to-science-and-faith/
Extreme functional sensitivity to conservative amino acid changes on enzyme exteriors
4) https://doi.org/10.1006/jmbi.2000.3997
Estimating the Prevalence of Protein Sequences Adopting Functional Enzyme Folds
5) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/8389796_Estimating_the_Prevalence_of_Protein_Sequences_Adopting_Functional_Enzyme_Folds
6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Josephson
7) https://ncse.ngo/list-steves
8) http://nebula.wsimg.com/e4f4b2bb26ebae17e962d71647af66f2?AccessKeyId=A6FBFFFE99B075CE040A&disposition=0&alloworigin=1
9) http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf
10) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61586-y
11) https://www.jmtour.com/
12) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41576-021-00417-w
13) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6195259/#pone.0202513.ref001
14) https://evolutionnews.org/2020/01/meyer-on-nested-coding-another-successful-design-prediction/
15) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_Scherer
16) (PDF) https://bio-complexity.org/ojs/index.php/main/article/download/BIO-C.2018.2/BIO-C.2018.2
17) (PDF) https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.84.17.6195
18) https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Is-Intelligent-Design-advancing-or-in-retreat-Casey-Luskin-Adam-Shapiro
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In this episode, Darren is back to discuss our experience of session 3 and 4 of the 2022 Christian Evidence Society presentations.
We also address some feedback we had regarding our response to race session of the 2021 presentations, in Episode 54.
Christian Evidence Society
https://christianevidence.org/
Session 3:
Professor Dr Barbara Drossel, Professor of Theoretical Physics at the Technical University of Darmstadt.
Are we here by accident?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQNEJU4TSjE
Professor Dr Barbara Drossel:
https://www.faraday.cam.ac.uk/about/people/prof-dr-barbara-drossel/
Session 4:
Dr Jennifer Wiseman: Are we alone in the universe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q6DSAXJ3Rk
Dr Jennifer Wiseman:
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/dr-jennifer-j-wiseman-hubble-senior-project-scientist
2021 Session Videos
https://christianevidence.org/2021/05/14/questions-of-our-times-videos-available/
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The Christian Evidence Society sessions are back for 2022. This time it's four sessions, which we will cover in two episodes of Still Unbelievable!
Darren joins Andrew and Matthew to attend the sessions and then review them afterwards.
Christian Evidence Society
https://christianevidence.org/
Session 1:
Alister McGrath: Should we always follow the science?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykFAxEkgvuM
Professor Alister McGrath
https://www.theology.ox.ac.uk/people/professor-alister-mcgrath
http://alistermcgrath.weebly.com/
Session 2:
Mary Ellen Foster: Will a robot steal my job?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJpi1O9mBIo
Dr Mary Ellen Foster
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~mefoster/
Gary Marcus:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-next-decade-in-ai-gary-marcus-four-steps-towards-robust-artificial-intelligence/
The Turing Test:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/turing-test/
Skydivephil:
Physicists & Philosophers reply to the Kalam Cosmological Argument featuring Penrose, Hawking, Guth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKe6YzHiME&t=4s
2021 Session Videos
https://christianevidence.org/2021/05/14/questions-of-our-times-videos-available/
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Tim Hull is a Christian with his own YouTube channel and posts content addressing Deconstruction, among other topics. Tim and Matthew have engaged many time over the years on the Unbelievable? Facebook page, so Matthew felt it was time that they had a genuine live conversation.
Dealing with Deconstruction
https://www.youtube.com/c/DealingWithDeconstruction
One Minute Apologist
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXkgIl5W-HXG8-srQdyAbDw
Image Church
http://www.imagechurch.live/
Christian Evidence Society events for March
https://christianevidence.org/2022/01/27/questions-of-our-times-webinars-will-follow-the-science/
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Did you listen to our episode where we answered Braxton Hunters 10 Questions for atheists 2021?
Braxton did, and he did a special response to our answer to question two, where Matthew said, "Arguments are not Evidence".
This Episode is part two of our response to Braxton's response. Part 1 is Episode 70.
Link to Braxtons YouTube response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyr_xpkw-XQ
SkyDivePhil's video responding to the KCA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGKe6YzHiME
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Did you listen to our episode where we answered Braxton Hunters 10 Questions for atheists 2021?
Braxton did, and he did a special response to our answer to question two, where Matthew said, "Arguments are not Evidence".
Link to Braxtons YouTube response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyr_xpkw-XQ
Believers' estimates of God's beliefs are more egocentric than estimates of other people's beliefs:
https://www.pnas.org/content/106/51/21533
Physics in a minute: The double slit experiment:
https://plus.maths.org/content/physics-minute-double-slit-experiment-0
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In this episode, Matthew addresses comments by Justin Brierley about atheists being too wedded to their worldview to consider Christianity as true.
The referenced Peter Atkins YouTube clip is: https://youtu.be/dRWIsuEL0Ac
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Matthew draws attention to how Hamilton can show what God's love looks like.
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In this Episode, Andrew and Matthew answer 3 Questions put forth by the YouTube channel, Capturing Christianity. Apparently, these are not supposed to be gotcha questions, but we don't believe Cameron!
CC original 3 questions video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89tcsb2aPLI
Evidentialism:
https://iep.utm.edu/evidenti/#:~:text=Evidentialism%20is%20a%20theory%20about,justificatory%20status%20of%20one's%20beliefs.
Planet X:
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/hypothetical-planet-x/in-depth/
Kilogram redefined:
https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/666310991/say-au-revoir-to-that-hunk-of-metal-in-france-that-has-defined-the-kilogram
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In this short episode, Matthew addresses comments made in a recent episode of Unbelievable? where two Christians discussed abortion. The show was a good example of two people disagreeing (mostly) with grace, but several comments made by the anti abortion participant needed addressing.
show link:
1) https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Abortion-and-the-Texas-heartbeat-bill-Stephanie-Gray-Connors-vs-Rev-Bromleigh-McCleneghan
Human rights and abortion.
2) https://www.ipas.org/our-work/human-rights-and-abortion/
3) https://www.amnesty.org/en/what-we-do/sexual-and-reproductive-rights/abortion-facts/
4) https://reproductiverights.org/un-human-rights-committee-asserts-that-access-to-abortion-and-prevention-of-maternal-mortality-are-human-rights/
Questions answered about the law:
5) https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/texas-abortion-law-explained/
Science of the heartbeat
6) https://www.livescience.com/65501-fetal-heartbeat-at-6-weeks-explained.html
7) https://www.wired.com/story/heartbeat-bills-get-the-science-of-fetal-heartbeats-all-wrong/
Death of Savita Halappanavar
8) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar
1967 PDF putting forward different views.
9) https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.57.12.2163
10) https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/udhr.pdf
Stephanie on contraception
11) https://lozierinstitute.org/a-scientific-view-of-when-life-begins/
Canada: 15.2 USA: 20.8 UK: 17
13) https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country
Abortion rates are higher in countries where abortion is illegal.
14) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-abortion-idUSKCN0Y22QO
USA has twice the rate of Teen Pregnancy as Canada
15) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4852976/
the science is not settled on a new life
16) https://www.wired.com/2015/10/science-cant-say-babys-life-begins/
Clips:
1:54 - 3:04 Intro to the show
4:38 - 5:38 Stephanie affirms a human rights argument against abortion
14:37 - 16:42 Justin asks about the Texas Heartbeat bill, Stephanie outlines the heartbeat bill
17:35 - 18:20 Justin asks Stephanie if she is in favour of the law
22:56 - 23:17 Stephanie responds to push back that it's 'not really a heart beat'.
23:53 - 25:14 Stephanie responds to a challenge about abortion being a health care activity and that suggesting otherwise is manipulative.
31:31 - 32:54 Stephanie asks the very important question of what constitutes human rights
42:05 - 42:21 What responsibilities do civil societies expect?
43:41 - 43:46 it's a separate life at fertilisation.
47:24 - 47:33 dog and cats - sperm egg fusion, no one debates that.
47:52 - 48:11 UN declaration of human rights says everyone has the right to life.
53:58 - 54:17 people who claim to be Christians won't embrace abortion.
54:45 - 55:10 humans are so valuable top god he suffered and died.
55:10 - 55:16 repeats science tells us human life at fertilisation
1:09:46 - 1:10:03 Stephanie says US and Canada abortion rates are essentially the same
1:13:33 "that moment", equality begins when we begin,
1:14:06 - 1:14:35 ethical response
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Part two of our analysis of Sean McDowell's video of leaving the faith, David from Skeptics and Seekers joins Andrew and Matthew to continue our dissection of this conversation.
Original Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkGl4CEW-Q
John Marriott PhD: Centre of Christian thought Biola university
https://www.johnmarriott.org/
Assemblies of God did a study:
SPIRITUAL VITALITY OF ASSEMBLIES OF GOD POST-HIGH SCHOOL YOUNG ADULTS
https://www.proquest.com/openview/623abb0606ceb95053f5af09b4f552f8/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750
Christianity today article
Vast majority of people who struggle with their faith go to a Christian college
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/august/evangelical-students-faith-crisis-christian-higher-ed-cccu.html
Study at USC by Vern Bengston in 2013
Quote: "Warm relationship with the father"
Link to report on study: https://latterdaysaintmag.com/article-1-14335/
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David from Skeptics and Seekers joins Andrew and Matthew to dissect this conversation.
Original Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMkGl4CEW-Q
John Marriott PhD: Centre of Christian thought Biola university
https://www.johnmarriott.org/
Pew research, for each person who moves to Christianity 4 are leaving:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/05/13/a-closer-look-at-americas-rapidly-growing-religious-nones/
Pinetops Survey: It is the largest and fastest numerical shift in religious affiliation in the history of this country.
Quote is from: The Great Opportunity – The American church in 2050
Links:
https://www.greatopportunity.org/
https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/4245467/The%20Great%20Opportunity.pdf
Sean references the comment: If they left the faith, they were never really in it in the first place.
https://christianscholars.com/guest-post-deconversion-the-all-or-nothing-fallacy/
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Braxton Hunter has done another 10 questions, in this Episode Andrew and Matthew review and answer the questions.
Original Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXhWIMT_9r8
Links:
- Contingency Argument
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/heyj.13916
- the Cosmological Argument
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cosmological-argument/
- Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument
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Andrew and Matthew invite Mark Clark on for a conversation about his latest book, The Problem of Jesus.
Andrew was unable to make this recording, so we invited David from Skeptics and Seekers to join Matthew in hosting Mark. We have a fascinating conversation about Mark, his work as a pastor and what drove him to write his books.
Find out more about Mark here:
http://www.pastormarkclark.com/
Mark's book, answering the Problem of Jesus is available here:
https://www.eden.co.uk/christian-books/understanding-the-faith/teaching-on-jesus/the-problem-of-jesus/?site_id=162595&adtype=pla&device=c&product_id=5225230&gclid=CjwKCAjwp_GJBhBmEiwALWBQk0lX0nXrC9Jj05u5nL513LfbrdZZlvufuDNnRSUph-DWnW1lf5ZK7xoCx1YQAvD_BwE
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Would you worship god if you were convinced he existed?
David, The Graceful Atheist, joins Matthew and Andrew to answer whether a god could change the mind of an honest atheist.
In this episode we discuss various issues around the idea of worship and directly the answer the challenge of why we would (or would not) worship the Christian god.
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This episode features David Johnson from Skeptics and Seekers, Clint Heacock from The MindShift podcast and David Hayward the Naked Pastor. We discuss events from the past year, like lockdown and race riots as well as some lighter hearted moments.
The Naked Pastor: https://nakedpastor.com/
The Lasting Supper: https://thelastingsupper.com/
Skeptics and Seekers: https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/
The Mindshift Podcast: https://mindshiftpodcast.co.uk/
David on the MindShift podcast: https://mindshiftpodcast.co.uk/2021/07/16/papering-over-the-ugly-truth-the-history-of-the-church-and-racism-with-david-johnson/
CORT 2021
Conference on Religious Trauma: https://pheedloop.com/CORT/site/home/
Jesus and The Disinherited
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jesus-Disinherited-Howard-Thurman/dp/0807010294/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=124553499049&dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw092IBhAwEiwAxR1lRhWTQDOxmPuo8U3sd5nctRZVsSr2zn0rS70u3Fn9GzxlpOmMdWEathoCh4IQAvD_BwE&hvadid=519011821422&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045659&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=1829422166190730871&hvtargid=kwd-312474190297&hydadcr=24429_1748939&keywords=jesus+the+disinherited&qid=1628945948&sr=8-1
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Caleb and Kevin return for another series of questions from Andrew and Matthew. This is a friendly back and forth and we would like to extend our thanks to both Caleb and Kevin for their honesty and grace in this conversation. We respect them both and hope to have them back again to ask us questions.
Caleb Johnston - Questioning Christianity: https://www.facebook.com/QuestionChristianity/
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Bryan (with a y), a regular over at the Skeptics and Seekers podcast and blog joins Andrew and Matthew to ruminate over another set of 10 questions that atheists must answer. The questions are taken from a YouTube video, linked below.
Questions by Gunnel Percher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN93ruChnJM
QualiaSoup
https://www.youtube.com/user/qualiasoup
Limb Gene in Zebrafish
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/fish-had-genes-adapt-life-land-while-they-were-still-swimming-seas
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This bonus episode was originally recorded by the Skeptics and Seekers Podcast. It is presented here in its unedited state, except for very minor level corrections.
The show features Vaal and Dale Glover in discussion about the nature of free will with some contributions by the regular Skeptics and Seekers host David Johnson. It is well worth the time investment.
The show is being distributed here as a favor to the SnS family. Listen to the introduction for details.
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This episode is the audio of a livestream conversation that Matthew had on Jonathan McLatchie's YouTube channel.
They talk about Matthew's deconstruction and what it would take for Matthew to believe again.
The original live stream conversation between Jonathan and Matthew is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdcd3lTmv9c&t=1s
The Genetics article that Jonathan mentions is:
Waiting for Two Mutations: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2581952/
a response by Michael J. Behe to the article was published in 2009
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2644969/
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Andrew and Matthew welcome Joshua Swamidass to discuss his book The Genealogical Adam and Eve.
More on the book is available here: https://www.ivpress.com/the-genealogical-adam-and-eve
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In February and March 2021, The Christian Evidence society ran a series of five sessions. We at Still Unbelievable attended these. This Final episode features Andrew, Matthew and Darren discussing the forth and fifth session, which were Mike Hulme talking about Climate and Rowan Williams talking about Prayer and Spirituality. The first episode covered Jonathan Aitken speaking about truth and Gillian Straine talking about Healing. The second episode was Joel Edwards talking about race.
Session 4: Dr Mike Hulme - Climate
https://mikehulme.org/
Session 5: Rowan Williams - Is God really Listening?
https://www.magd.cam.ac.uk/user/williams
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In February and March 2021, The Christian Evidence society ran a series of five sessions. We at Still Unbelievable attended these. This Second episode features Andrew, Matthew and Darren discussing the third session, which was Joel Edwards talking about race. The first episode covered Jonathan Aitken speaking about truth and Gillian Straine talking about Healing. The next episode will cover Mike Hulme talking about Climate and Rowan Williams talking about Prayer and Spirituality.
Session 3: Joel Edwards CBE - Race
https://www.csw.org.uk/2015/09/29/news/2779/article.htm
NPR: Race and Christianity
https://www.npr.org/2020/08/28/907029717/white-christians-grapple-with-their-faiths-racist-past-and-present?t=1618133184633
USA Guidestones
https://www.wired.com/2009/04/ff-guidestones/
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https://chatandspinradio.com/
https://www.gofundme.com/f/podcast-video-editing-equipment-for-wbd?utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=customer
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In February and March 2021, The Christian Evidence society ran a series of five sessions. We at Still Unbelievable attended these and over the next three episodes we will be reviewing our experience of these sessions from the perspective of non Christians. This first episode covers the first two sessions sessions which are Jonathan Aitken speaking about truth and Gillian Straine talking about Healing.
Episode two will cover Joel Edwards talking about Race and the final episode will cover Mike Hulme talking about Climate and Rowan Williams talking about Prayer and Spirituality.
https://christianevidence.org/2021/01/23/new-webinar-series-tackles-questions-of-our-times/
Session 1: Jonathan Aitkin - Truth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Aitken
Session 2: Gillian Straine - Healing
https://christianevidence.org/2021/01/23/new-webinar-series-tackles-questions-of-our-times/
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Matthew reviews and picks out problematic statements made by a Christian.
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1) https://skepticsandseekers.squarespace.com/blog/8fntdr83kbx06hifzjocl065cft6jv
2) Solar Nebular Hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebular_hypothesis
3) https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/our-solar-system/in-depth/#otp_formation
4) Time Dilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation#:~:text=Time%20dilation%20is%20a%20difference,and%20a%20moving%20clock%20(i.e.
5) spectral lines: https://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/features/yba/M31_velocity/spectrum/spectra_info.html
6) https://world.wng.org/content/a_fine_tuned_universe
7) Galactic Habitable Zone https://phys.org/news/2016-09-galaxy-habitable-zone.html
8) Cosmic radiation: https://www.nasa.gov/analogs/nsrl/why-space-radiation-matters
9) https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/phenomena/galactic-cosmic-rays
10) Scientific Theory: https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-theory
11) Core of Mercury: https://earthsky.org/space/mystery-solved-mercury-solid-inner-core-messenger#:~:text=The%20results%20showed%20that%20Mercury,miles%20(4%2C000%20km)%20wide.
12) https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/207619332.pdf
13) https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1712/1712.08234.pdf
14) Impact on Mercury: https://phys.org/news/2011-12-evidence-large-asteroid-mercury.html#:~:text=What%20happened%2C%20they%20suggest%2C%20is,it%20to%20begin%20spinning%20again.
15) Auxiliary Theories: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287507629_Auxiliary_theories_as_translation_mechanisms_for_measurement_model_specification
16) Chromosome 2: https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/the-mystery-of-the-missing-chromosome-with-a-special-guest-appearance-from-facebook-creationists
17) Nebular source for Hydrogen in Earths water: https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018JE005698
18) Water on Comet does not match Earths https://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/comet/news98.html
19) Water in Comet Coma does match earth https://arxiv.org/abs/1904.09175
20) Water from Asteroids https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6525/164
21) Ancient water on earth https://science.sciencemag.org/content/369/6507/1058
22) http://www-personal.umich.edu/~atreya/Articles/2000_Noble_Gas.pdf
23) Galileo probe https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/11/991117154803.htm
24) https://lasp.colorado.edu/home/mop/files/2015/08/jupiter_ch4-1.pdf
25) https://lasp.colorado.edu/home/mop/files/2015/08/jupiter_ch18-1.pdf
26) Surface erosion on Callisto https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2001DPS....33.3505K/abstract
27) Methane lakes on Titan https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/cassini-explores-a-methane-sea-on-titan
28) Uranus impact https://www.space.com/42944-uranus-giant-impact-simulations.html
29) Orbital eccentricity https://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/glossary/Eccentricity.shtml
30) Planetary details including eccentricity and inclination https://calgary.rasc.ca/orbits.htm
31) Kepler’s laws: https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/resources/310/orbits-and-keplers-laws/
32) Orbital resonance https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0903/0903.5009.pdf
33) Hydroplate http://paleo.cc/ce/wbrown.htm
34) https://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/departments-and-staff/library-and-archives/collections/piltdown-man.html
35) Russ Humphreys critiqued: https://www.trueorigin.org/rh_fackmcin1.pdf
36) Scientific consensus https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2016/06/24/what-does-scientific-consensus-mean/?sh=b6572d96bae9
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Andrew and Matthew have a conversation with Andrew Halestrap, a scientist and a Christian. We talk about Andrew's work as a scientist, his involvement with Christians in Science and more.
Prof Andrew Halestrap is former Chairman of CiS and Emeritus Professor of Biochemistry at the University of Bristol
Christians in Science website: https://www.cis.org.uk/
The Faraday Institution: https://faraday.ac.uk/
God and the Big Bang: https://gatbb.co.uk/
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Andrew and Matthew have a conversation with Dan and David from the documentary, We Believe In Dinosaurs, discussing the movie, Ken Hams Ark Encounter and why we should reject all forms of Young Earth Creationism.
Links to items that come up in the discussion are:
PBS film page: https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/we-believe-in-dinosaurs/
Information & Screenings: https://www.webelieveindinosaurs.net/
137 films: http://www.137films.org/
1091 films: https://1091.tv/we-believe-in-dinosaurs
The Sensuous Curmudgeon Blog: https://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/
Dino Dad Reviews: https://dinodadreviews.com/about/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dinodadreviews
CROSSWATER CANYON INC: https://nonprofitlight.com/ky/petersburg/crosswater-canyon-inc
(We could not find a link with details on Taking Back Industries that Dan mentions)
David MacMillan blog: https://medium.com/@davidstarlingm
Twitter: @thesejustwords
TikTok: @justlydeserved
Dan Phelps: https://www.facebook.com/daniel.phelps1
Twitter: @edrioasteroid
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Andrew and Matthew give their answers to the 10 questions presented by Braxton Hunter in his 2020 YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1SDYPaUNiY
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This short episode is a bonus extra because this week a video from William Lane Craig on determinism needed a rapid response.
Links references in the episode are:
1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__IhlhAbK7E&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3cjH6cgFow48h65pdzglYxuEzLMj245G0cnrrEgu6cnZCyfNWdW8419Pg
2) https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/naturalism/
3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwaXqep-bpk&t=1s
4) https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/talking-apes/202007/can-we-have-justice-without-free-will
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This episode features Mathew and Andrew along with regular guest, Darren, and David from Skeptics and Seekers asking questions of some very friendly Christians. We hope to feature them again in a future episode.
Caleb Johnston - Questioning Christianity: https://www.facebook.com/QuestionChristianity/
Charles Graves - Reasonable Faith:
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/about/
https://www.reasonablefaith.org/chapters/roanoke-va/
Proscenium podcast on cosmology: https://anchor.fm/reasonpress/episodes/Episode-11---Talking-Cosmology-with-skydivephil-ek2qde
Proscenium podcast on consciousness: https://anchor.fm/reasonpress/episodes/Episode-3---What-is-Panpsychism-eas6bf
PBS Space Time YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7_gcs09iThXybpVgjHZ_7g
Cosmological models mentioned:
Carroll–Chen Model: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10838-016-9337-9
Aguirre-Gratton Model: https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301042
Craig Keener: Miracles
https://craigkeener.com/product/miracles-the-credibility-of-the-new-testament-accounts-2-volumes/
John Loftus: The Case Against Miracles
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1839190086/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_FOWQEbRAT2S7F
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In October and November 2020, The Genexis group ran some on-line discussion groups on evidence for the Christian God. Matthew attended these events, along with regular guest Darren. Each week, they discussed the presentation and group time in an aftershow chat. This episode is an amalgamation of those chats.
Patricia Churchland, What is eliminative materialism?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrFqhOvNtWM&vl=en
Item on how dogs think:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/all-dogs-go-heaven/201804/6-facts-about-how-dogs-think
Dolphin approaches divers for help getting untangled from a fishing line:
http://divemagazine.co.uk/eco/6580-video-dolphin-asks-divers-for-help
Unbelievable? Andy Bannister vs Peter Singer – Do we need God to be good?
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Andy-Bannister-vs-Peter-Singer-Do-we-need-God-to-be-good
A simple and general explanation for the evolution of altruism:
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/full/10.1098/rspb.2008.0829
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In October and November 2020, The Genexis group ran some on-line discussion groups on evidence for the Christian God. Matthew attended these events, along with regular guest Darren. Each week, they discussed the presentation and group time in an aftershow chat. This episode is an amalgamation of those chats.
Cosmology episode on Proscenium:
https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/proscenium-726766/episodes/episode-11-talking-cosmology-w-75204152
https://anchor.fm/reasonpress/episodes/Episode-11---Talking-Cosmology-with-skydivephil-ek2qde
PBS Space Time YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7_gcs09iThXybpVgjHZ_7g
Genexis Videos from 2019:
https://www.genexis.org/Groups/320160/media.aspx
WLC talking about Time (2018)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4s2AiZP8Vw
BGV Theorem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borde%E2%80%93Guth%E2%80%93Vilenkin_theorem#:~:text=The%20Borde%E2%80%93Guth%E2%80%93Vilenkin%20theorem,have%20a%20past%20spacetime%20boundary.
Justin Brierley's Dice Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6kaDaeDT8
The improbability of shuffling a deck of cards into a repeated result:
https://quantumbase.com/how-unique-is-a-random-shuffle/
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In January 2020, Matthew had a conversation with Christians Robert and Dale on the subject of miracles. This is an edited version of that conversation in order to create space for additional content. The full audio of this discussion, without the additional content, is available at both Robert's and Dale's podcasts:
https://www.robertlwhite.net/philosophy/miracles-debate-real-seekers-podcast/
https://realseekerministries.wordpress.com/2020/01/30/signs-wonders-part-3-miracles-debated-with-robert-l-white-christian-matthew-taylor-atheist/
Items that are discussed in this episode include:
Hinge Podcast episode 8, Miracles:
https://www.stitcher.com/show/hinge-2/episode/8-the-unavoidable-question-53330562
(Cory wasn't that convinced, and nor should you be.)
Bruce Van Natta healing
https://documentedhealings.com/small-intestine-healed/
https://fgbt.org/Testimonies/bruce-van-natta.html
Barbara Snyder healing:
https://1c15.co.uk/barbara-snyder-barbara-cummiskey-snyder-healed-from-multiple-sclerosis/
Pastor healing on video:
https://churchleaders.com/daily-buzz/286270-miracle-watch-god-heal-pastor-preaches-healing.html
Lourdes Healings:
https://www.debunking-christianity.com/2017/08/an-investigation-into-alleged-miracles.html
A Miracle Claim
https://www.charismanews.com/us/74493-hundreds-of-medical-miracles-reported-in-church-with-explosive-growth
The Profile Podcast Episode it features on
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/The-Profile/Episodes/William-McDowell-Miracles-signs-and-wonders-are-breaking-out-at-the-Gospel-artist-s-church
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Erin joins Andrew and Matthew to talk about secular Chaplaincy, why she no longer believes in god but is still happy to go to church. We even mention religious fictionalism.
Links to items mentions on the show are below.
International Christian Maritime Association: https://icma.as/
Mission To Seafarers: https://www.missiontoseafarers.org/the-sea
Erin Burnett Author: http://erinburnettauthor.co.uk/
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Robert L White joins Andrew and Matthew for a discussion on the Atonement, and a couple of other subjects.
Links to help explain some of the items that come up are below:
Original Photos of Shirdi Sai Baba | Dr. Vinny Chitluri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8f0VTgt6Q
Testing Prayer - Candy Gunther Brown:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Testing-Prayer-Candy-Gunther-Brown/dp/0674064674
Heidi Baker
https://www.irisglobal.org/about/the-iris-story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Baker
The Nature of the Atonement: Four Views
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B001E6IZBA/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
Robert's blog, podcast and social media can be found at:
https://www.robertlwhite.net/
https://twitter.com/robertlwhite_II
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Darren, Andrew and Matthew get together for the final session of our Alpha Analysis series. Do you have thoughts on Alpha? Have you been on an Alpha Course? Do you disagree with our analysis? Would you like to have a conversation with us about Alpha? If so, get in touch.
Power Healing, John Wimber:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Power-Healing-John-Wimber/dp/0060695412
Templeton Foundation Pray Study:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00179491
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16569567/
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-mar-31-sci-prayer31-story.html
Lourdes Healing Pools study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3854941/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/09/france.religion
The videos for weeks 9, 19 and 11 can be found here:
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline9
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline10
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline11
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Jon Steingard joins Andrew and Matthew for a conversation about loss of faith, communicating with loved ones, being a better human and more.
Bands Mentioned:
Hawk Nelson: http://hawknelson.com/
Petra: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Petra_(band)
WWMT: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/The_Tribe_(dance_band)
Delirious?: https://www.delirious.org.uk/
AVB: https://www.singers.com/group/Acappella-Vocal-Band/
Vegan Links:
Alex O'Connor: The Absolute Worst of Cognitive Dissonance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnykmsDetNo&list=UU7kIy8fZavEni8Gzl8NLjOQ
Beyond Meat: https://www.beyondmeat.com/
Impossible Foods: https://impossiblefoods.com/
Contacts:
Jon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonsteingard
Jon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonsteingard
Batwa Documentary: https://vimeo.com/344902879
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Dave, the Graceful Atheist, joins us to discuss Christian responses to deconversion stories. How Christians respond to those of us who turn away from and criticise Christianity is very telling. Do you write off the former believer as never being a true believer to start with? or do you listen with compassion and attention to the faults that caused them to change?
The blog post by Eric Strandness that kicks off the episode:
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/unbelievable/2020/09/autopsy-of-a-deconstruction-jon-steingard-and-the-foundations-of-faith/
Other Christian blog posts discussion deconversion:
https://www.christianpost.com/voices/jon-steingard-and-the-contagious-drift-away-from-christianity.html
https://www.christianpost.com/voice/the-problem-of-christians-becoming-atheists.html
https://www.christianpost.com/voice/solution-christians-becoming-atheists.html
David's own blog post on Deconversion:
https://gracefulatheist.wordpress.com/2017/12/03/deconversion-how-to/
Three Christians discuss Rhett and Link's Deconstruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZsIxSkKzc
Seminary Profs Respond to the Deconversion of John Steingard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXonrhjhDlo
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Founded by barrister Paul Downs QC, Genesis is an organisation that holds a series of talks by world leading scientists and academics presenting simple evidence for a creator.
https://www.genexis.org/
Due to global restrictions, Genexis is unable to hold the large gatherings that it had it 2019, so for 2020 the Genexis series of talks is held on line via Zoom. Darren and Tony (from our Alpha series) joined Matthew in these presentations and the small group discussions.
In this episode Matthew hosts Darren and Paul talking about Genexis and his first presentation in the series and discuss the question of how we can have any confidence in the proposal that there is a creator god.
Items raised during the conversation are:
Ard Louis presentation at Genexis 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYIYEkCLX84
The Dunblane Massacre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_massacre
The Anthropic Principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
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In this episode Darren joins Andrew and Matthew to discuss the Alpha Saturday and week 8. The Alpha Saturday is Online Alpha's replacement for the Alpha Weekend.
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In this enlightening and educational episode, Andrew and Matthew host Glenn Branch, deputy director of the NCSE, to talk about the Kitzmiller case, what it achieved and what it means for intelligent design.
To Donate to NCSE: https://ncse.secure.force.com/donate
Commentary on the book 'Of Pandas and People':
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2018/01/11/of_pandas_and_people_a_brief_history_of_the_original_intelligent_design_textbook.html
Don't Call it Darwinism: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225311563_Don't_Call_it_Darwinism
ACLU page on the trial: https://www.aclu.org/other/trial-kitzmiller-v-dover
The Demonisation of Jack Kevorkian: https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1103&context=srhonors_theses
Bad Frog Beer: https://www.badfrog.com/
Creationism's Trojan Horse: https://www.amazon.com/Creationisms-Trojan-Horse-Intelligent-Design/dp/0195319737
Trial Transcript: https://ncse.ngo/kitzmiller-trial-transcripts
Monkey Girl: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000OYEWJM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
The Devil in Dover: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0041G6RV0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
The Pillars of Creationism: https://ncse.ngo/pillars-creationism
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Darren rejoins Andrew and Matthew for part three of our Alpha analysis series. In this episode we assess weeks 5, 6 and 7 and the Alpha course, discussing the video content and the group experiences.
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The Alpha videos for weeks 5, 6 and 7 can be found here:
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline5
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline6
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline7
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The colour difference test that Mathew mentions is here:
https://www.sciencealert.com/humans-didn-t-see-the-colour-blue-until-modern-times-evidence-science
Daniel's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVvbPPOjvItMYwIpCaK-enw
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Andrew and Matthew are joined by Chris Matheson to discuss his latest book, The Buddah's Story and upcoming film Bill and Ted face the music. We also talk about his previous book, The Story of God. Links to Chris's books and the mentioned YouTube videos are below.
The Story of God: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Story-God-Biblical-Comedy-about-ebook/dp/B013AGFK8C/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&qid=1597221618&refinements=p_27%3AChris+Matheson&s=digital-text&sr=1-3&text=Chris+Matheson
The Buddha's Story: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Buddhas-Story-Chris-Matheson-ebook/dp/B08CL54RZ5/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&qid=1597221579&refinements=p_27%3AChris+Matheson&s=digital-text&sr=1-1&text=Chris+Matheson
Satan's Story: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Satans-Story-Postscript-God-ebook/dp/B01LW69FFN/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&qid=1597221640&refinements=p_27%3AChris+Matheson&s=digital-text&sr=1-8&text=Chris+Matheson
God's Art Museum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHxEz7E-d9w
The Garden of Earthly Delights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4jpYwQa64o
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Tony and Darren join Andrew and Matthew for part 2 of our Alpha Analysis series.
In this episode we examine weeks 3 and 4, where we discuss forgiveness, the definition of faith and more.
The Alpha videos for weeks 3 and 4 can be found here:
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline3
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline4
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Joel Furches joins Andrew and Matthew to discuss his research on why Christians become atheist.
Joel's document that is discussed during the episode is available here: https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-do-Christians-Become-Atheists-A-Case-Study
A link in that document directs to this study: https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/
The Perez Valerie research that Joel mentioned during the episode is available here: https://www.secularismandnonreligion.org/articles/10.5334/snr.108/
The Switching Sides facebook group run by Joel can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/416964269222311
Joel's personal website is: https://joelfurches.com/
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In this short monologue, Matthew gives an overview of the story of Frankenstein and asks the question, "who is the villain?".
Are there any parallels that can be drawn between Frankenstein and the Christian God?
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Darren joins Andrew and Matthew for the first in our series of episodes covering the Alpha course.
In this episode we cover the format of Alpha, the demographic of the groups that Andrew and Matthew are in, how that matches claims that in this period of lock down more people are turning to Christianity. Does Alpha make its founding church money? We also cover the first two Alpha videos, what the group discussion was like, what evidence in support of Christianity is presented and what arguments are given.
The first two Alpha videos can be found here:
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline1
https://www.htb.org/alphaonline2
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Matthew hosts a conversation between returning guests Brian Blais and Jonathan McLatchie to further the conversation on why Jonathan is confident that the resurrection of Jesus can be accepted as an historical event. The conversation goes beyond that and touches on the question of should we be accepting of personal testimony for strange single occurrence events as well as a bit of biology.
See below for links to items by Brian and Jonathan, as well as the two peer reviewed accounts of recovery following prayer that Jonathan mentions.
Peer Reviewed studies mentioned by Jonathan:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0965229918313116 and https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1550830720300926
Jonathan's six part series responding to Richard Carrier on the ur-source theory explanation of undesigned coincidences.
Part 1: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/03/yes-richard-carrier-there-are.html
Part 2: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/03/can-scribal-errors-account-for.html
Part 3: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/03/who-has-fabricated-data-lydia-mcgrew-or.html
Part 4: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/03/is-redaction-usually-better-hypothesis.html
Part 5: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/03/external-coincidences-and-acts-of.html
Part 6: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2020/04/rounding-off-my-response-to-richard.html
Brian has written on the subject of faith and probability, in the “Measure of Faith” available here: https://bblais.github.io/posts/2019/Jul/15/a-measure-of-faith-probability-in-religious-thought/
Other articles by Brian on the subject of faith and miracles:
https://bblais.github.io/posts/2015/May/13/on-miracles/
https://bblais.github.io/posts/2013/May/21/a-little-about-miracles/
https://bblais.github.io/posts/2019/Sep/03/probability-of-the-resurrection/
https://bblais.github.io/posts/2013/Jul/27/what-would-it-take-for-me-to-believe-the-resurrection/
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Matthew and Andrew and joined by Sam and David who find themselves questioning their faith and are planning to podcast about their journey. Listen to hear more about what it takes for Christians to question the foundation of their faith, why they find themselves in that situation and the positives that they take out from the situation.
This is an honest dialogue with no ulterior motives. For more on their story visit the blog When Belief Dies, https://whenbeliefdies.com/, and look out for the podcast.
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In this solo episode Matthew reviews the conversations that Justin Brierley had with William Lane Craig, John Lennox and Becky Pippert discussing COVID-19, suffering and how the Christian God fits into this time of high uncertainty.
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Following his appearance on Unbelievable? with friend of the show David from the Skeptics and Seekers podcast, Jonathan McLatchie joins Andrew and Matthew to explain why he accepts the resurrection of Jesus as fact and to expand a bit on his usage of Bayes and his Cumulative approach to evidence.
Jonathan can be found at: http://apologetics-academy.org/
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Matthew is joined by returning guest Dr Clint Heacock and first time guests Kayla and Bethany to talk parenting through deconstruction. What changes when a parent leaves faith? What challenges do they face? and what do they do better?
Growing up Godless: https://www.nlb.gov.sg/biblio/200774666
The Deconstructing Parent: https://cindywangbrandt.com/for-the-deconstructing-parent/
Deconstructed Parenting: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2260835577296278
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In this episode, Matthew is joined by Teddi, who has some questions after his appearance on Skeptics and Seekers talking about why people leave Christianity.
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Andrew and Matthew are joined by Dr Clint Heacock from the Mindshift podcast to talk about an article he wrote listing many reasons why people leave the Church.
This is part of a series of podcasts and episodes we are involved in on why people leave Christianity.
Clint's article can be found here: https://medium.com/@clintheacock/what-happens-after-people-leave-the-church-951db55300a0
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REV Steve Chalke MBE is founder of the Oasis Trust. He joins Andrew and Matthew to talk about his life and goals, what motivates him and what it means for him to be a Christian. Steve's compassion comes across very strongly in this conversation. To learn more about Oasis and Steve's latest book, The Lost Message of Paul, visit these links. https://www.oasisuk.org/ , https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S2X7V1K/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
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In this episode, Andrew and Matthew announce their new podcast project and what that means for this podcast and for ReasonPress.
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Andrew and Matthew and joined by friend of the podcast, Dave The Graceful Atheist, to talk about a recent episode of Unbelievable? We talk about evolution, genesis, consciousness, intelligence, Humans and Neanderthals, apologetic arguments, theodicy and Mac vs Windows.
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This episode contains swearing and laughing!
Andrew and Matthew are joined by Keith, to discuss Ken Ham's appearance on the Unbelievable? podcast on September 21st 2019.
We are all former YECs and we disagree with Ken Ham on many things, especially when it comes to what science says and why it is more reliable and trustworthy than the bible and that YECism is what is driving people away from the church and that it should be robustly attacked by everyone, especially other Christians.
For more on the Bicameral Mind see https://www.julianjaynes.org/julian-jaynes-theory-overview.php
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Professor Philip Goff joins Matthew and Andrew to discuss his approach to Christianity -- Religious Fictionalism. Along with an early discussion about the nature of reality, Matthew and Andrew talk with Philip about whether one needs to adopt Christianity as true to benefit from its teachings. Philip makes a compelling case for accepting the good in religion through understanding its metaphors, symbols, and social constructs, without needing to adopt as fact every claim of religion.
For Dr. Goffs work:
Preorder his new book:
Galileo's Error: Foundations for a New Science of Consciousness
Visit his website at:
www.philipgoffphilosophy.com
Visit his blog at:
Conscience and Consciousness
Connect on Twitter:
@philip_goff
And for the article mentioned in the show:
Religion But Not As We know It
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Andrew and Matthew chat with Dave Warnock about valuing the life we live as atheists and how it compares to how Christianity values life. Dave is facing a terminal diagnosis and during this conversation we all have a laugh, and a cry. Dave has appeared on multiple podcasts on his Dying Out Loud tour. Including a separate conversation with Matthew at Ask An Atheist Anything. Join us for some irreverence, some frank talk, some laughter, and yes, there were tears too!
We also want to pass on huge thanks to Marie, for arranging our conversations, if you need an organiser, Marie can help you, here details are here:
Marie D'Elephant, Virtual Assistant
mariedelephant@gmail.com
mariedelephant.com (life coach page which includes limited information about my virtual assistant work)
(This episode has an explicit tag, because from the very start there is swearing and sharp criticism of Christianity)
As always, feedback welcome in all the usual places.
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At a recent Unbelievable? conference, Glen Scrivener recited a poem he wrote depicting a fictional conversation with a young atheist.
The Unbelievable! Poem is a poem is written in a similar style depicting a fictional online conversation with a Christian.
Glen's poem can be read here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ex8GvfVysyZW4qde6WT83anCr9qQYSgwipUGJCe4jXo/edit
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Recently BBC assistant producer Damon Rosehas created a dust up around Christians asking to heal the disabled. Damon is blind himself and knows a bit about the subject having attended a school for the blind as a youth. To explore Christian disability doctrine and his own views as an atheist, he has written articles and produced a documentary.
His work prompted Justin Brierley to invite him to Unbelievable? for a conversation with two disabled Christians -- Zoe Heming and Ian Paul.
In this episode Andrew and David, disabled themselves, go over the problems with disability doctrine and healing. What does it mean when a Christian offers to heal you and it fails? Does the disabled community want to be bothered? Have Christians failed in their obligation to think critically about disability doctrine? Is disability doctrine god's silver bullet? We invite you to press play, follow along, and decide for yourself.
For Damon's documentary:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00057mh
For the Unbelievable/ episode:
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Should-Christians-rethink-disability-and-healing-Damon-Rose-Zoe-Heming-and-Ian-Paul
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In this episode, Andrew and Matthew talk with Tom from the Hiding in Plain Sight podcast. They talk about Tom's experience of visiting churches, why he's still atheist, the benefits of Christianity to a community, how fair Justin Brierley is, what Tom plans for series 2 and much more. Come and join for for a fascinating discussion.
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In this episode physics professor Brian Blais joins Andrew and Matthew to discuss The Fine Tuning Argument, The Second Law of Thermodynamics, contingency, evidence for the Christian claim of a historical resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth, and other topics found in Justin Brierley's book Unbelievable?: Why After Ten Years of Talking With Atheists, I'm Still a Christian. As you listen, you can decide for yourself whether Christian Apologetics draws appropriate conclusions from the best science of today. And, you will also have a meaningful guide if you read Justin's book.
Dr. Blais has a Ph. D. In physics that emphasized computational neuroscience and was the recipient of a three year NSF research grant to study computational neuroscience and the recipient of the Biomedical Research Infrastructure Network (BRIN) grant. He is an active member of many professional organizations including The Geochemical Society and The American Statistical Association. He teaches undergraduate physics at Bryant University and is a research professor at The Institute for Brain and Neural Systems at Brown University. Brian has written extensively on Bayesian Probability and is currently writing a book about Bayesian Analysis that is geared toward readers with a less mathematical background but nevertheless have interest in understanding probability. He also listens to and regularly blogs concerning topics covered on Unbelievable?.
To read more from Professor Blais, including the topics discussed in this episode, visit his blog:
https://bblais.github.io
For Justin Brierley's book visit:
https://www.amazon.com/Unbelievable-After-Talking-Atheists-Christian/dp/0281077983/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=unbelievable&qid=1558145223&s=gateway&sr=8-5
At the end of the show, we promised a link to The Shawn Carroll William Lane Craig debate. Visit this YouTube page to watch their debate:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0qKZqPy9T8
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Christian churches have a variety of views on the LGBTQI+ community, and recently, there have been some high profile examples of christian denominations taking controversial and harmful stances. In this episode, Andrew and Matthew are joined by Jane to discuss where the Christians are going wrong and how to better engage with every person as an individual worthy of equal treatment.
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David, Sarah, and Andrew talk about what it means to be in a cult, and their own experiences in one.
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Are the gifts of the spirit for today? Let's find out.
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In this episode Andrew is joined by Doug Hoxworth. Doug is a Mechanical Engineer with a second degree in theology, and he maintains a life long interest in philosophy.
After years of Christianity, Doug is now an atheist, and he takes us on a journey through the presocratics, Socrates, Plato, Plotinus, and other philosophers to disambiguate the conversation between Raymond Tallis and David Bentley Hart.
What role did the presocratics, Socrates, and Plato have in forming first century Christian thought? What is the origin of the word logos, and how does that origin change our understanding of John 1? What are platonic forms? Was Plato a dualist? Should we trust Plato's philosophy over empiricism? Does logos help us understand mind and the world around us?
Just press play and listen to the exploration.
For the original debate:
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-Logos-mind-and-making-sense-of-the-world-Raymond-Tallis-David-Bentley-Hart
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In this episode Andrew is joined by Chris Bradley to discuss whether John Lennox is honest with his Christian listeners about the nature of science and the provability of scripture.
Is John Lennox knowingly and openly dishonest with his supporters, or is it true that science cannot explain everything about our existence? Is scripture a complementary explanation that stands hand-in-hand with the science to provide a complete picture, or is scripture simple special pleading that obfuscates our understanding? What does the word "nothing" mean in the context of physics and creation?
Join Andrew and university trained Electrical Engineer Chris Bradley to find out.
For the original debate between Atkins and Lennox:
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-John-Lennox-vs-Peter-Atkins-Can-Science-Explain-Everything-Live-Debate
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Bart puts on his therapist hat. And we all benefit.
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Natalie defends her egalitarian position.
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Original discussion from Unbelievable
https://www.premierchristianradio.com/Shows/Saturday/Unbelievable/Episodes/Unbelievable-John-Lennox-vs-Peter-Atkins-Can-Science-Explain-Everything-Live-Debate
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