Talking about Coaching: Recent Episodes

Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat & Nicki Drab

Does what it says on the tin: We talk about coaching. We, that is Yannick, Siawash and Nicki. We love coaching, collectively got a tonne of experience, knowledge and charm; and we all felt it was time to give something back to our wonderful coaching community. Whether you're a life coach, work with organisations or practice any other form of coaching, you can ask us anything and we'll discuss it for and with you so you can learn, grow and develop your practice and business skills!

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Most of us have been there, and if you haven’t you’ll meet them soon: The “I don’t know” client, who responds to every coaching question with “I don’t know”. Are they avoiding the question? Do they not want to be there? Do they not trust you? Are they scared of what they might find? Have they been sent to coaching against their will? Or do they simply not know anything? Whatever it may be, for coaches this situation can be mighty frustrating, so in this episode, Nicki and Yannick discuss how to navigate working with such clients.

Keywords
coaching, client engagement, resistance, curiosity, strategies, coaching techniques, personal development, client blocks, coaching dynamics, professional coaching

Takeaways

  • The 'I don't know' response can indicate resistance or a lack of knowledge.
  • Curiosity is essential for coaches to engage clients effectively.
  • Exploring the emotional state of clients can reveal underlying blocks.
  • Coaches should avoid taking on the responsibility of knowing for their clients.
  • Asking clarifying questions can help clients uncover their thoughts.
  • Using humor or positive prompts can shift a client's emotional state.
  • The GROW model can be a useful framework for guiding clients.
  • Acknowledging the shared experience of 'not knowing' can help both coach and client.
  • Preparation with resources can empower coaches in challenging situations.
  • Focusing on inquiry rather than providing answers fosters client growth.

Chapters
00:00 Understanding the 'I Don't Know' Client
03:00 Exploring Client Resistance and Blocks
05:58 Strategies for Engaging Clients
09:00 The Role of Curiosity in Coaching
11:59 Navigating the Coach-Client Dynamic
15:14 Preparing for the 'I Don't Know' Situation
17:59 Shifting Focus from Knowledge to Inquiry

Keywords
coaching, client engagement, resistance, curiosity, strategies, coaching techniques, personal development, client blocks, coaching dynamics, professional coaching

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Siwash Zahmat explore the intersection of coaching and artificial intelligence (AI). They discuss how AI can serve as a valuable tool for coaches, enhancing their capabilities and providing insights that can improve client interactions. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of maintaining authenticity in communication while leveraging AI for content creation and business processes. They also touch on the evolving role of AI in coaching, the necessity of human oversight, and the potential for AI to complement traditional coaching methods.

Keywords

coaching, AI, business, authenticity, communication, content creation, partnership, investment, technology, personal development

Takeaways

  • AI can replace traditional coaching methods effectively.
  • Using AI as a CEO coach can enhance business strategies.
  • Transparency in using AI responses with clients is crucial.
  • AI can significantly reduce the time spent on content creation.
  • The partnership between AI and humans can yield better results.
  • AI can help in personal development and skill enhancement.
  • Authenticity in communication is essential when using AI.
  • AI can assist in creating unique and personalized content.
  • Investing in both AI and human resources is beneficial.
  • AI can provide valuable insights and feedback for coaches.

Chapters
00:00 The Evolution of Coaching and AI
03:11 AI as a Coaching Tool
05:47 The Human-AI Partnership
08:57 AI in Business Processes
11:50 Authenticity and AI in Communication
15:01 Creating Unique Content with AI
17:58 The Future of AI in Coaching
21:06 Investing in AI and Human Resources

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Nicki explore the metaphor of dance in coaching, discussing how different styles of dance can represent various coaching approaches. They emphasize the importance of creating safe spaces for clients, the balance between structure and freedom, and the need for coaches to be adaptable in their methods. The discussion also touches on the significance of contracting and understanding the client's preferred 'dance' style, ultimately encouraging coaches to reflect on their own practices and the dances they choose to engage in with their clients.

Keywords
Coaching, dance metaphor, coaching styles, safe spaces, structure vs freedom, contracting, client-coach relationship, personal growth, coaching techniques, coaching dynamics

Takeaways

  • Coaching can be viewed as a dance, a partnership between coach and client.
  • Different dance styles represent various coaching approaches and philosophies.
  • Creating a safe space is crucial for effective coaching.
  • Contracting helps clarify expectations and comfort levels in coaching.
  • Flexibility in coaching styles allows for better client outcomes.
  • Understanding a client's preferred 'dance' can enhance the coaching relationship.
  • Coaching can involve both structured processes and free exploration.
  • The balance between structure and freedom is essential in coaching.
  • Coaches should reflect on their own 'dance' styles and preferences.
  • Mastery in one style versus integration of multiple styles has its own advantages.

Chapters
00:00 The Dance of Coaching
05:25 Exploring Different Dance Styles in Coaching
10:04 The Importance of Contracting in Coaching
15:40 Creating Safe Spaces for Exploration
20:14 The Balance of Structure and Freedom in Coaching
25:09 Choosing the Right Dance for the Right Situation
28:30 Mastery vs. Integration in Coaching

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Nicki explore the intersection of AI and coaching, discussing how AI can enhance reflective practice and supervision for coaches. They delve into the potential benefits and challenges of integrating technology into coaching, emphasizing the importance of maintaining human connection while leveraging AI's capabilities. The discussion also touches on the future of coaching, the ethical considerations of using AI, and the need for a balanced approach to technology in the coaching profession.

Keywords
AI, coaching, reflective practice, supervision, technology, human connection, coaching mastery, training, ethics, coaching industry

Takeaways

  • AI can significantly enhance coaching practices.
  • Reflective practice is crucial for personal and professional growth.
  • Coaches can benefit from AI as a training ground.
  • Maintaining human connection is essential in coaching.
  • AI can help coaches reflect on their sessions effectively.
  • The future of coaching will likely involve more technology.
  • Ethical considerations are important when using AI in coaching.
  • AI can provide realistic role-playing scenarios for coaches.
  • Coaching mastery involves both technical skills and human empathy.
  • Community involvement is key in developing AI tools for coaching.

Chapters
00:00 Exploring AI in Coaching
09:09 The Role of Reflective Practice
18:12 Balancing Technology and Human Connection
28:12 Future of AI in Coaching

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This conversation explores the realities of full-time coaching, addressing the common misconceptions and challenges faced by coaches. The speakers discuss the importance of having a diverse skill set, including sales and marketing, to build a sustainable coaching career. They emphasize that many coaches often maintain other jobs while developing their coaching practice and that the journey to becoming a full-time coach can be long and requires persistence.

Keywords
coaching, full-time coaching, coaching career, coaching business, coaching skills, client acquisition, coaching training, coaching income, coaching challenges, coaching dreams

Takeaways

  • Most coaches do other things to pay the bills.
  • Full-time coaching is often a fantasy for many.
  • Coaching training does not cover essential business skills.
  • Networking is crucial for acquiring coaching clients.
  • Many visible coaches earn from other activities, not just coaching.
  • Sales and marketing skills are vital for coaching success.
  • It's okay to start coaching as a side hustle.
  • Building a coaching career takes time and effort.
  • Don't put too much pressure on yourself to succeed immediately.
  • Reflecting on your journey can help clarify your coaching goals.

Chapters
00:00 The Reality of Full-Time Coaching
04:01 Dreams vs. Reality in Coaching
10:43 Building a Sustainable Coaching Career

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob, Nicki, and Siwash Zahmat explore the complexities of coaching, focusing on themes of accountability, dependency, and motivation. They discuss the importance of fostering client independence and the balance between providing support and creating dependency. The conversation also delves into intrinsic versus extrinsic motivation, the nature of coaching relationships, and the significance of secure attachment in coaching dynamics. The episode concludes with reflections on the insights shared and an invitation for further discussion.

Keywords
coaching, accountability, dependency, intrinsic motivation, extrinsic motivation, client empowerment, coaching relationships, personal growth, positive psychology, emotional well-being

Takeaways

  • A happy new year signifies a year full of life experiences.
  • Accountability in coaching can lead to dependency if not managed properly.
  • Creating a crutch for clients can hinder their growth.
  • Healthy accountability helps clients develop independence.
  • Intrinsic motivation is key to long-term success in coaching.
  • Coaching should empower clients to become their own coaches.
  • The relationship between coach and client should be a partnership, not a dependency.
  • Systems can help create accountability without relying solely on the coach.
  • Understanding intrinsic motivation can enhance coaching effectiveness.
  • Secure attachment in coaching fosters a healthier relationship.

Chapters
00:00 New Beginnings and Reflections on Happiness
03:01 The Accountability Dilemma in Coaching
06:04 Exploring Dependency and Client Empowerment
08:59 Intrinsic vs. Extrinsic Motivation
11:58 The Nature of Coaching Relationships
24:01 Closing Thoughts and Future Conversations

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In this conversation, Nicki and Yannick explore the multifaceted importance of coaching, discussing its various forms and impacts on individuals, groups, and society. They delve into the distinctions between coaching and therapy, emphasizing the unique benefits each offers. The discussion also touches on personal experiences in coaching, the challenges faced, and the journey of rebuilding confidence in the coaching profession.

Keywords
coaching, therapy, personal development, self-awareness, positive psychology, existential coaching, performance coaching, group dynamics, societal impact, emotional depth

Takeaways

  • Coaching is important on many levels, including individual, group, and societal.
  • Different coaching approaches serve different purposes and have unique impacts.
  • Coaching can help individuals solve problems and achieve their desires.
  • The impact of coaching extends beyond the individual to families, workplaces, and communities.
  • Coaching fosters self-awareness and better communication in relationships.
  • There is a significant difference between coaching and therapy, each serving distinct roles.
  • Coaching can be more direct and goal-oriented compared to therapy.
  • The effectiveness of coaching can depend on the practitioner's approach and expertise.
  • Coaches should be aware of their boundaries and ethical considerations in practice.
  • Personal experiences in coaching can influence one's confidence and approach to the profession.

Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Coaching
08:24 Coaching vs. Therapy: Understanding the Differences
16:00 Navigating Personal Journeys in Coaching

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In this conversation, Nicki and Yannick delve into the complexities surrounding the stigma that the job title “life coach” carries, exploring personal experiences and societal perceptions. They discuss the importance of accreditation and professional standards in the coaching industry, as well as the financial motivations that can sometimes overshadow the genuine intent of coaching. The dialogue also touches on global perspectives on coaching stigma, highlighting how different cultures perceive life coaching and the challenges faced by coaches in various regions.

Keywords
life coaching, stigma, accreditation, coaching industry, coaching standards, coaching perspectives, coaching ethics, coaching reputation, coaching success, coaching challenges

Takeaways
The stigma around life coaching often stems from personal perceptions.
Accreditation can provide confidence and credibility for coaches.
Different cultures have varying perceptions of life coaching.
Financial motivations can attract both genuine and unethical coaches.
Coaching is not a one-size-fits-all profession; it has many branches.
The public often associates life coaching with high earnings and quick success.
Coaches should focus on the people who appreciate their work.
It's important to engage in conversations to change perceptions of coaching.
The coaching industry lacks regulation, leading to varied standards.
Personal stories can help illuminate the realities of coaching stigma.

Chapters
00:00 Navigating the Stigma of Life Coaching
10:12 The Role of Accreditation in Coaching
18:26 The Financial Landscape of Coaching
26:27 Global Perspectives on Coaching Stigma

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Andrea Matuz explore the intricate relationship between coaching, supervision, marketing, and sales. They discuss the importance of authenticity in both the coaching process and marketing strategies, emphasizing the need for coaches to connect with potential clients while also navigating their own discomfort with visibility and sales. The dialogue highlights the significance of numbers in tracking progress and the necessity of building genuine relationships in the coaching field. Ultimately, the conversation aims to inspire coaches to embrace marketing and sales as integral parts of their practice, fostering a mindset shift towards viewing these elements as opportunities for connection rather than mere transactions. In this conversation, Andrea Matuz and Yannick Jacob explore the intricacies of coaching, marketing, and the importance of authenticity. They discuss how coaches can effectively connect with clients, the significance of personal stories in marketing, and the challenges of establishing a coaching business. The dialogue emphasizes the need for coaches to leverage their existing skills, navigate ethical marketing practices, and engage in meaningful conversations to foster connections. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the journey of building a coaching practice while remaining true to oneself and one's values.

Andrea is an experienced Coach, Mentor, and Coach Supervisor with a passion for helping both new and seasoned coaches to build and grow their coaching skills and an authentic business.

As a Business Coach and Mentor, Andrea supports coaches in transforming their passion into a sustainable business that not only provides a living but also makes a meaningful impact.

In her role as a Coach Supervisor, Andrea fosters a safe and confidential environment for open, reflective conversations where coaches can explore their challenges, gain insight into their strengths and identify areas of growth.

Andrea has a keen interest in ‘sales and marketing psychology’, which influences her work as a business coach. This insight allows her to guide coaches in understanding their own mindsets and behaviours and those of their clients, helping them craft more compelling value propositions and build stronger, authentic connections.

To learn more about Andrea’s work, visit her LinkedIn.

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Siwash Zahmat delve into the nuances of closing consultations in coaching. They discuss the importance of leaving time for closing, ethical considerations in sales, and the transition from coaching to closing. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a structured approach while maintaining a client-centered focus, exploring how to create options for clients and the significance of creating space for decision-making. They also touch on the use of checklists to streamline the closing process and ensure that clients feel supported throughout their decision-making journey. In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Siwash Zahmat explore the intricacies of coaching sales processes, focusing on payment discussions, client commitment, and the importance of building relationships over mere transactions. They emphasize the need for authenticity, clarity, and the ability to address objections while maintaining a supportive environment for clients. The discussion highlights the significance of practicing these skills to achieve mastery in the enrollment process, ultimately leading to successful coaching relationships.

Keywords
coaching, consultations, closing techniques, ethical selling, client relationships, decision making, sales process, coaching packages, client commitment, sales strategies, coaching, payment plans, client commitment, sales objections, relationship building, authenticity, coaching process, client agreements, enrollment mastery

Takeaways
Closing a consultation is crucial for client engagement.
Ethical selling prioritizes the client's needs over the coach's agenda.
Creating a menu of options can facilitate client decision-making.
It's important to create space for clients to process their choices.
Transitioning from coaching to closing requires clear communication.
Using checklists can enhance the effectiveness of the closing process.
Building relationships is key to successful coaching and sales.
Listening to clients' concerns is essential for ethical selling.
Offering a follow-up session can enhance client commitment.
The sales process should feel supportive, not pushy. Payment plans can enhance client commitment.
Creating space for clients to think is crucial.
Addressing objections openly normalizes money conversations.
Building relationships leads to better client retention.
Authenticity in sales processes fosters trust.
Clarity in agreements prevents payment issues.
Practicing sales conversations improves confidence.
Understanding client needs is key to effective coaching.
The enrollment process is a journey, not a transaction.
Mastery comes from experience and feedback.

Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Closing Consultations
02:49 Ethics in Sales and Coaching
06:12 Transitioning from Coaching to Closing
08:58 Creating a Menu of Options
11:54 The Art of Creating Space
15:01 Guiding Clients Through the Decision Process
18:07 Using Checklists for Effective Closing
27:22 Navigating Payment Conversations
30:32 Creating Commitment and Space for Clients
33:42 Addressing Objections and Money Conversations
36:46 Building Relationships Over Transactions
40:20 Practicing Authenticity in Sales
43:58 The Importance of Clarity and Agreements
46:57 Mastering the Enrollment Process

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Dylan Emerick-Brown discuss the power of narratives in coaching. They explore how narratives shape our lives and how coaches can work with narratives to help their clients. They also discuss the role of curiosity and discomfort in coaching, as well as the importance of a good editor or coach to help navigate the unknown. The conversation highlights the value of storytelling and the impact it can have on personal growth and transformation. In this conversation, Dylan Emerick-Brown discusses the importance of storytelling in coaching and marketing. He emphasizes the need for authenticity and genuine connections, rather than following a prescribed formula. Dylan also highlights the value of brevity and the power of impactful emotional moments in storytelling. He shares his own coaching experiences and offers insights into the coaching process. Dylan concludes by encouraging people to find joy in making others smile.

Dylan Emerick-Brown is an Executive and Organizational Performance Coach specializing in the healthcare sector. An ICF-Certified Neuroscience Coach, Fellow of the Institute of Coaching at McLean Hospital (a Harvard Medical School affiliate), and member of the American College of Healthcare Executives, Dylan is passionate about fostering cultures of self-awareness, enlightened perspectives, and constructive conflict within healthcare organizations.
With a coaching philosophy centered on empowering clients to achieve sustainable behavior change, Dylan emphasizes clarity as the foundation for transformational growth. By helping healthcare executives and professionals align individual and organizational values, he supports clients in making meaningful, lasting impact. His expertise extends to working with medical residency programs, providing both individual and team coaching to build resilience and cohesion in high-pressure environments.
Dylan’s credentials include training with the Co-Active Institute, Positive Intelligence, and certifications in Strategic Leadership in Healthcare, Leading Organizational Change, Talent Optimization, and Culture of Health initiatives from institutions such as Doane and Harvard University. Guided by the principle, "Provoking people to think about their thinking is the single most powerful antidote to erroneous beliefs and autopilot" (John Dewey), Dylan is dedicated to catalyzing clarity, innovation, and progress in healthcare leadership.

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Nicki Siwash explore the multifaceted challenges of being a coach. They discuss the commitment to mastery, the stigma associated with the coaching identity, the impact of personal struggles on professional presence, and the looming influence of AI on the coaching profession. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding one's own journey while supporting others and the need for coaches to evolve beyond basic methodologies to remain relevant in a changing landscape.

Keywords
coaching, challenges, identity, AI, personal struggles, mastery, stigma, business, professional presence

Takeaways
The hardest part of coaching is committing to mastery.
Many coaches struggle with the stigma of their identity.
Building a business can be more challenging than coaching itself.
Personal struggles can impact a coach's professional presence.
AI may replace coaches who only follow basic methodologies.
Coaches need to distinguish their personal issues from their professional role.
It's common for coaches to feel they can't take clients further than they've gone themselves.
Professionalism in coaching requires showing up despite personal challenges.
The coaching landscape is evolving, and adaptation is crucial.
Success in coaching can come from genuine connection rather than just business acumen.

Chapters
00:00 The Challenge of Coaching
02:51 Mastery and Commitment in Coaching
06:12 Identity and Stigma in Coaching
08:53 Personal Struggles and Professional Presence
12:09 The Impact of AI on Coaching
15:02 The Professionalism of Coaching

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Yannick and Dr. Nelly Nguyen delve into positive-existential philosophy with a focus on coaching. They begin by exploring the significance of names and identity before sharing their paths to the coaching field. Dr. Nguyen recounts her journey from physics to sports and educational science, driven by her curiosity about human suffering and existential questions. The discussion highlights sports metaphors in coaching, the creation of flow experiences, and the vital role of storytelling in understanding human behavior. They stress the need for stories that capture the complexity of human relationships and the importance of teaching children to navigate nuances and tough questions. Parenting, they suggest, should balance unconditional love and structure.

The conversation also touches on integrating various disciplines in coaching and finding one's unique coaching style. They explore the evolution of positive psychology and its existential aspects, the impact of our perceptual lenses, and the value of suspending judgment. Emphasizing self-acceptance as a path to growth, they discuss the power of compassion and reflective practice. The episode concludes with thoughts on staying open-minded and adaptable, covering goal setting, coaching techniques, the role of metaphors, the influence of science fiction, distinctions between coaching and therapy, and emerging trends in the coaching profession.

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In this conversation, the hosts discuss the challenges of coaching clients who tend to overthink. They explore various strategies to help these clients, including understanding their patterns, using cognitive and somatic approaches, and emphasizing the importance of mindfulness and present moment awareness. The discussion also highlights the need for courage to take action despite uncertainty and reframes overthinking as a potential strength when managed properly.

Keywords
coaching, overthinking, mindfulness, cognitive behavioral therapy, somatic techniques, client patterns, journaling, present moment awareness, courage, action

Takeaways
Many coaches encounter overthinking clients who struggle to break free from cognitive loops.
It's essential to explore the underlying patterns of overthinking in clients' lives.
Connecting with feelings and taking action can help interrupt overthinking.
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) techniques can be useful in addressing overthinking.
Mindfulness practices can ground clients and reduce overthinking.
Structured questions can guide clients' thoughts in a productive direction.
Journaling with specific prompts can help clients focus their thinking.
Physical activities and nature can help clients connect with their bodies and reduce overthinking.
Courage is necessary to take action in the face of uncertainty.
Overthinking can be reframed as a strength when used appropriately.

Chapters
00:00 Understanding Overthinking in Coaching
02:47 Exploring Client Patterns and Feelings
05:51 Cognitive and Somatic Approaches to Overthinking
09:11 Structuring Thoughts and Journaling Techniques
12:12 Mindfulness and Present Moment Awareness
14:50 Courage and Action in the Face of Uncertainty
18:01 Reframing Overthinking as a Strength

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In this conversation, Talking about Coaching hosts Yannick Jacob, Siwash Zahmat, and Nicki Drab discuss their personal journeys into coaching, exploring how their experiences shaped their decision to pursue this career. They reflect on the evolution of coaching as a profession, the impact of personal growth, and the importance of emotional resilience in helping others. The discussion highlights the diverse paths individuals take to become coaches and the significance of self-discovery in this process, and addresses Katie’s question: “How long did it take for you to realise you wanted to be a coach? Was it instantaneous or did it grow on you as you got better? Excuse the pun!”

Keywords
coaching, personal development, career journey, positive psychology, coaching experiences, emotional resilience, coaching profession, self-discovery, coaching stories, coaching impact

Takeaways

  • Coaching can be an instantaneous realization or a gradual journey.
  • Personal experiences often shape the desire to help others through coaching.
  • The popularity of coaching is influenced by effective marketing and personal aspirations.
  • Many people are drawn to coaching after undergoing significant life changes.
  • Coaching allows for a unique blend of personal connection and professional growth.
  • Emotional resilience is crucial for high performance in coaching.
  • The journey to becoming a coach often involves learning various skills.
  • Self-discovery plays a vital role in the coaching profession.
  • Coaching can provide freedom and fulfillment in one's career.
  • Personal stories of struggle can lead to a desire to help others.

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00:00 Introduction to Coaching Journeys
02:54 Personal Experiences in Coaching
06:12 The Evolution of Coaching as a Career
08:54 Reflections on Coaching and Personal Growth

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In this dialogue, Yannick Jacob talks to Avi Goren-Bar, a Jungian coach and psychologist, about his approach to coaching and the integration of Jungian psychology. Avi shares his personal journey into the field and discusses the importance of creativity and art therapy in his work. He explains his unique coaching method, which combines Jungian principles with Gestalt therapy and uses coaching cards to elicit dialogue with the unconscious. Avi emphasizes the need for coaches to have a deep understanding of the unconscious and suggests that his Jungian coaching program is accessible to individuals without a therapeutic background. The conversation explores the responsibility of coaches when working with clients' shadows and the importance of creating a safe and structured environment. They discuss the concept of the shadow in Jungian coaching and how it relates to inferiority and rejection. The conversation also touches on the role of psychological types, such as MBTI, in coaching and the potential for growth and self-discovery in encountering the shadow. They briefly discuss the intersection of coaching and psychedelic experiences.

After a short break, they explore the significance of taking breaks and creating space for reflection in coaching sessions. The conversation delves into the concept of existentialism and the value of slowing down to allow for insights to emerge. The discussion also touches on the principles of Martin Buber's I-Thou philosophy and its application in coaching. The conversation highlights the power of humility, embracing anxiety, and the significance of strong emotions like crying. It concludes with a reflection on the role of the coach and the importance of creating a supportive community, the importance of entrepreneurial skills for coaches and the challenges they face in running a coaching business. Yannick and Avi discuss their perspectives on developing business skills, marketing strategies, and sales techniques to create a sustainable practice.

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In this conversation, the Talking about Coaching hosts discuss the challenges of maintaining focus and presence during coaching sessions, particularly in the context of listening fatigue. They explore personal experiences with distractions, the impact of ADHD, and strategies to enhance listening skills, including mindfulness practices, visualization techniques, and intention setting. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and responsibility in coaching, as well as the need for continuous improvement in listening abilities. The speakers encourage sharing knowledge and best practices among coaches to foster a supportive community.

Keywords
coaching, listening fatigue, mindfulness, visualization, ADHD, coaching strategies, presence, responsibility, listening levels, self-awareness

Takeaways

  • Listening fatigue is a common challenge for coaches.
  • Distractions can stem from both internal and external factors.
  • Using tools like note-taking can help maintain focus.
  • Mindfulness and meditation are effective practices for presence.
  • Visualization techniques can protect energy and enhance focus.
  • Setting intentions before sessions can guide presence.
  • Assessing one's level of listening can promote improvement.
  • Coaches often take on too much responsibility for client outcomes.
  • Sharing knowledge among coaches can benefit the community.
  • Continuous practice is essential for developing listening skills.

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00:00 Listening Fatigue in Coaching
03:03 Strategies for Staying Present
06:03 The Role of Mindfulness and Visualization
08:49 Responsibility and Pressure in Coaching
11:59 Assessing Listening Levels
15:02 Sharing Knowledge and Best Practices

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In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Beth Clare McManus explore the intersection of coaching, creativity, and research. They discuss the importance of making research accessible, the role of creativity in coaching, and the ethical considerations that arise when using art and music in practice. The dialogue emphasizes the need for coaches to be aware of their influence on clients and the significance of supervision in navigating these complex dynamics. Through practical examples, they illustrate how creative approaches can enhance the coaching experience and foster deeper connections with clients. In this conversation, Yannick Jacob and Beth Clare McManus delve into the ethical considerations surrounding coaching practices, the blurred lines between coaching and therapy, and the importance of critical thinking in the coaching profession. They discuss the necessity of contracting, the role of emotions in coaching, and the emerging trends such as AI and arts-based coaching. The dialogue emphasizes the need for coaches to reflect on their practices and the ethical implications of their work, ultimately advocating for a more critical approach to coaching.

Beth Clare McManus is a coaching psychologist, artist, and researcher living in Manchester, UK. She believes that her best work happens at the intersection of psychology, coaching, and creativity.

Her professional practice is underpinned by Positive Psychology, with a particular interest in well-being and emotions at work. She is also interested in the ethical integration of arts-based approaches into coaching to support our ability to reflect, publishing research on this topic as well as undertaking a PhD (ongoing) that seeks to understand the potential of arts-based approaches in coaching supervision.

Beth coaches senior leaders, people professionals, and creative freelancers with an intention of supporting them to experience positive well-being and to be happy in their working lives. She offers exploration through arts-based approaches to clients who feel open and supported to work in this way.

As a coaching supervisor, she specialises in supporting coach well-being and utilising arts-based reflective practice, alongside championing the development of ethical awareness and ethical maturity in practitioners.

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Illustrated guide to working ethically with creativity: https://bethclaremc.com/ethics

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In this conversation, Talking about Coaching hosts Yannick Jacob, Nicki Drab, and Siwash Zahmat discuss the essential elements of creating a coaching website. They emphasize the importance of using the website as a tool to initiate conversations rather than just a “sophisticated business card”. The discussion covers the significance of building relationships, the role of simplicity in design, and the potential of social media as an alternative to traditional websites. They also explore how to define the purpose of a website in the context of a coaching business.

Keywords
coaching, website design, client relationships, social media, coaching business, SEO, website tips, coaching industry, online presence, client conversion

Takeaways

  • A website should facilitate conversations, not just serve as a business card.
  • Simplicity in design can enhance user experience and engagement.
  • Building relationships is more important than making immediate sales.
  • Social media can effectively replace a traditional website for coaches.
  • Your website should reflect your personality and coaching style.
  • SEO and content can help attract clients, but personal connections matter more.
  • It's common for coaches to struggle with defining their niche early on.
  • A website can evolve as your coaching business grows and changes.
  • Using testimonials can enhance credibility without compromising client confidentiality.
  • The purpose of your website should align with your overall coaching strategy.

Chapters
00:00 The Importance of a Coaching Website
02:47 Creating Conversations Through Your Website
06:01 Building Relationships Over Transactions
08:48 The Role of Simplicity in Website Design
11:58 Using Social Media as a Website Alternative
14:56 Defining the Purpose of Your Website

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The conversation explores the fear of failure and rejection that many coaches experience, which prevents them from putting themselves out there and being visible. The hosts discuss the mindset and skill development needed to overcome this fear. They emphasize the importance of taking small steps, reframing failure as a learning opportunity, and shifting the focus from outcomes to the process. They also highlight the need to understand that a 'no' does not necessarily mean personal rejection. Overall, the conversation provides insights and strategies to help coaches overcome their fear and become more visible.

Keywords
coaching, fear of failure, fear of rejection, imposter syndrome, mindset, skill development, small steps, reframing failure, focus on process, understanding 'no'

Takeaways
The fear of failure and rejection can prevent coaches from being visible and offering their services.
Taking small steps and gradually building confidence can help coaches overcome their fear.
Reframing failure as a learning opportunity and focusing on the process rather than the outcome can alleviate the fear of failure.
Understanding that a 'no' does not necessarily mean personal rejection can help coaches handle rejection more effectively.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and the Question of Fear and Rejection
01:16 The Imposter Syndrome and Fear of Failure
05:07 Taking Small Steps and Building Confidence
08:02 Exploring the Story and Shifting Mindset
11:03 Reframing Failure as a Learning Opportunity
13:14 Understanding the Meaning of 'No'
14:49 Focus on the Process and Continuous Learning
15:43 Conclusion

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The conversation explores the topic of self-disclosure in coaching. The hosts discuss the traditional approach of not disclosing anything about oneself and the potential benefits of sharing personal experiences. They emphasize the importance of maintaining focus on the client and being mindful of the intention behind self-disclosure. The conversation also touches on the potential risks and pitfalls of self-disclosure, such as projecting one's own experiences onto the client. Overall, the hosts suggest that self-disclosure can deepen the human-to-human connection in coaching, but it should be done thoughtfully and with the client's best interests in mind.

Keywords
coaching, self-disclosure, client focus, human connection, intention, risks, benefits

Takeaways

  • Self-disclosure in coaching can deepen the human-to-human connection and build trust.
  • It is important to maintain focus on the client and be mindful of the intention behind self-disclosure.
  • Self-disclosure should be done thoughtfully and with the client's best interests in mind.
  • There are potential risks and pitfalls of self-disclosure, such as projecting one's own experiences onto the client.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Question
00:30 Traditional Approach to Self-Disclosure in Coaching
01:28 The Importance of Human-to-Human Connection
03:02 Personal Examples of Self-Disclosure
06:27 Different Types of Sharing
09:07 Being Mindful of the Relevance and Usefulness of Sharing
12:26 The Potential Power of Self-Disclosure
15:33 Differentiating Between Personal Experience and Client Focus
26:53 Closing Thoughts

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Consultations arguably are the most important conversation coaches have with their clients, as they are instrumental in whether we will have more conversations or not. Without more conversations, we cannot help anyone. So in this conversation, Yannick and Siwash discuss the importance of consultations in coaching and the key elements of a successful discovery call: Having a plan, why we should stop trying to convince anyone, how we can manage time and structure, how to best set goals and avoid goal setting pitfalls, and how we can engage the client’s emotions and senses to create a powerful experience that makes it more likely that the client will want to move forward with coaching. We talk about the importance of exploring the cost of inaction and emphasize the need for coaches to slow down and create a safe space for clients and why it’s so important to respect their autonomy, rather than trying to influence them. The conversation concludes with a reminder to focus on building long-term relationships rather than just transactional interactions.

Keywords
coaching, consultations, discovery call, goal setting, assessing, time management, structure, flexibility, cost of inaction, exploring emotions, serving vs pleasing, respecting autonomy, long-term relationships

Takeaways
Consultations are crucial in coaching as they open the doors to potential coaching relationships.
A discovery call involves setting goals, understanding the current situation, and identifying challenges.
Engaging the client's emotions and senses in goal setting is important for creating a powerful coaching experience.
Shifting from convincing to assessing helps create a sense of trust and authenticity in the conversation.
Having a plan, managing time effectively, and being flexible in the conversation are key elements of a successful consultation. Explore the cost of inaction with clients and ask them how they would feel if they're in the same place years from now.
Create a safe space for clients to explore their emotions and make decisions.
Focus on serving clients rather than pleasing them and respect their autonomy.
Build long-term relationships with clients and prioritize the value of the relationship over the transactional time spent.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Importance of Consultations
11:30 Engaging Emotions and Senses in Goal Setting
34:18 Exploring the Cost of Inaction
44:24 Building Long-Term Relationships

See also
Episode 62 - The DOs and DON’Ts of a coaching consultation
Episode 16 - Am I giving too much value during my coaching consultations?

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Yannick and Siwash discuss whether coaches who have just finished their coaching qualification are ready to take on paid clients. They address the hesitancy coaches often feel about charging for their services and provide insights on when and how to start charging. They emphasize that everyone can charge for their time and that clients want to invest in their own journey. The conversation also explores the importance of transparency, setting up a review process, and overcoming personal money stories.

Takeaways

  • Coaches who have just finished their coaching qualification are ready to take on paid clients.
  • Everyone can charge for their time, regardless of their level of experience as a coach.
  • Starting with free sessions and then reviewing the value provided can help coaches gain confidence and determine their rates.
  • Clients want to give something back and feel more committed when they invest monetarily in the coaching relationship.
  • Coaches should be transparent about their charging process and be open to non-monetary forms of repayment.

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00:00 Introduction
00:32 Hesitancy in Charging Clients
01:30 Everyone Can Charge for Their Time
03:25 The Importance of Monetary Investment
05:23 Starting with Free Sessions
06:26 Setting Up a Review Process
07:33 Clients Want to Give Something Back
08:02 Playing a Game to Overcome Money Concerns
09:29 Being Transparent About Charging
10:07 Charging as a Coach in Training
11:03 Receiving Non-Monetary Repayment
12:39 Dealing with Personal Money Stories
15:03 Closing and Call for Conversation

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The conversation explores the question of whether to lead with problems or results when selling coaching services. Yannick and Siwash discuss the effectiveness of selling a solution to a problem and the alignment with positive psychology. They also explore the power of leading with a vision and inspiring clients to move towards their desired outcomes. The conversation delves into the different approaches of being a painkiller or a vitamin, and the importance of choosing the type of clients and work that align with one's values. The hosts also discuss the five stages of awareness and how to create content for each stage. The conversation concludes by emphasizing the importance of finding a marketing frequency that works for each coach.

Takeaways

  • Selling a solution to a problem can be effective, but it may not align with positive psychology and the desire to inspire clients towards their dreams and aspirations.
  • Leading with a vision and focusing on the desired outcome can be more powerful and impactful in the long run.
  • There is no one right way to sell coaching services, and it depends on the type of clients and work that align with one's values and goals.
  • Understanding the five stages of awareness (unaware, problem aware, solution aware, product aware, and most aware) can help in creating targeted marketing content for different stages of the customer journey.
  • Finding a marketing frequency that works for each individual is important, and it is not necessary to constantly create new content but rather focus on creating valuable and impactful content.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Question
01:09 Selling with Problem Focus
02:07 Positive Psychology and Vision Focus
03:04 Tapping into Positive Experiences
04:28 Combining Problem and Vision Focus
05:03 Being the Painkiller or the Vitamin
06:29 Choosing the Type of Clients and Work
07:39 Different Approaches for Different Coaches
08:13 Focusing on the Desired Outcome
09:46 Leading with Vision and Meaning
11:24 Long-Term Impact and Lifelong Work
13:09 The Five Stages of Awareness
15:18 Creating Content for Different Stages
20:40 Inviting People to Take the Journey
25:02 Choosing the Frequency of Marketing
26:24 Conclusion

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In this conversation, Siawash and Yannick discuss the question of whether holding space is enough to create results in coaching. They explore the importance of holding space and being fully present as a coach, as well as the practice of holding space effectively. They also discuss the balance between doing less and doing more in coaching, and the role of action and intervention. The conversation delves into different philosophies on intervention and the importance of including the client in the decision-making process. The episode concludes with a reflection on the coach's motivations and the different perspectives on coaching.

Takeaways
Holding space is an essential aspect of coaching, allowing clients to do their best thinking and tune into themselves.
Doing less can often be more effective in coaching, as it allows clients to tap into their own resources and find their own answers.
Intervention and action can be valuable in coaching, but it is important to consider the client's needs and preferences.
Including the client in the decision-making process and checking in with them regularly can help ensure that the coaching is aligned with their goals and expectations.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction
00:49 The Importance of Holding Space
03:20 The Practice of Holding Space
05:17 Doing Less is Doing More
06:40 The Role of Action and Intervention
08:08 The Power of Asking Questions
09:34 Adapting to the Client's Needs
11:00 Different Philosophies on Intervention
12:14 Making Decisions as a Coach
14:08 The Client's Expectations
15:12 Including the Client in the Process
17:11 Reflecting on the Coaching Session
18:39 Exploring the Coach's Motivations
19:36 The Coach-Client Partnership
21:38 Different Perspectives on Coaching
22:12 Conclusion

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The question of how far coaches can go is an increasingly pertinent one. The limits and boundaries around what coaching is and can be quite blurry. In today’s episode of talking about coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss whether coaching is the right approach to support someone who’s lost a loved one, or grieving some other significant loss or ending, or whether that sort of work is best left to a therapist.

The episode with grief coaching expert Julia Menaul that Yannick referenced can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDweULQZqEg&list=PLEK9UENWT66CUcOyiLjUuEZ6281D6A47M&index=31&t=10s&pp=gAQBiAQB

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It is not uncommon that coaches have dual relationships with their clients. The coaching client may also be a colleague, a parent from the community, or a friend of a friend that they sometimes meet in social circles. Some coaches even coach family members or close friends. And sometimes it’s difficult to tell at what point we’re crossing the line between being a friend and coaching a friend. In this episode our resident coaches Nicki, Yannick and Siawash explore the benefits and pitfalls of coaching people who are close to us, as well as the ethics involved in such relationships.

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Many coaches are thinking about, or experimenting with scaling their coaching business to reach more people. But once we market at scale, many of us coaches find ourselves stretched too thin in the face of having to create content, write, sell, and engage a growing social media. If you’re committed to still be the one who’s delivering the work, it can feel impossible grow the business unless you’re working with a team. And once you hire content creators, copy writers or sales people, it’s inevitable that your business is not going to feel 100% like you anymore. The copy doesn’t quite sound like you anymore, the content may be not be exactly what you had in mind, and the website would look different if you had designed it yourself. This presents a number of challenges for those with high values of authenticity, and so in today’s episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Siawash, Yannick and Nicki go on a personal quest to share their experiences, advice, and curiosities around what it takes to scale authentically in an effort to serve more people, but without losing your integrity in the process.

See also:
Episode 24 - How can I scale my coaching business?
Episode 38 - Do I need to be obsessed or grind long hours to be a successful coach?

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Working with a coaching supervisor is the gold standard of maintaining professional standards, figuring out ethical dilemmas, and to continuously grow as a coach. Most coaches look up to their supervisor as someone that they respect and whose approach to working with people they would want to emanate. You could say that a coach doesn’t have to have experience in their client’s area in order to coach them well. Could you also say that a supervisor doesn’t need to be someone with experience in your style of coaching in order to supervise you well? Or is a coaching supervisor invariably someone who’s further ahead on your journey, and hence always some sort of role model for your own practice? And what then would be the difference to mentoring? In this episode of talking about coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki will be discussing the role of supervision and the role of a coaching supervisor.

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Daniel asked us whether coaching still works if the clients aren’t paying any money for the coaching. This applies to pro-bono coaching and also to circumstances like Daniel’s where it’s not appropriate to charge due to how coaching has been set up within the organisation or institution. In this episode of Talking about Coaching, Nicki, Siawash and Yannick hence discuss the crucial importance of commitment in the coaching relationship, and what other ways there are besides money to create commitment.

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Metaphors can be a powerful way to unlock your clients’ thinking and progress in a coaching session. In this episode, our resident coaches Nicki, Siawash and Yannick discuss how to work with metaphors in coaching.

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Following question was sent in: “Hi guys. Would love to hear your take on "money back guarantee" policy for your coaching. And possibly why you choose to implement it in a particular way.” So here we are, talking about whether money back guarantees are a great way to create the kind of confidence that gets clients through the door, or whether they add a huge weight to coaches and make it difficult to stay present and let the client do the work.

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Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.

This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Clare Norman.

"With over 20 years of coaching experience, Clare is highly sought after by other expert coaches, as well as successful coach training companies as a Master Mentor Coach. Clare looks to continually sharpen individuals’ coaching edge and upskill mentor coaches so they can deliver high-quality feedback to their coaches-in-development. Her laser focus on mindset shifts and her knack for spotting marginal gains has made her a go-to person for coaches looking for mentorship and practical, meaningful ways to improve their practice.

With an international following from both her coaching peers and senior leadership, Clare is making a difference to the world of work via the professional application of coaching. Her mission across all her work is to encourage leaders to put people and the planet before profits. "

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Sounds a little click-baitey perhaps, but we thought it was time to tackle this question head-on. With a number of episodes on related topics you will find plenty of practical tips on how to grow your business, and we may well do a more classical series of practical advice on how to get 6 figures in your coaching business, but today we wanted to shine a light on the question itself, what it means to be a 6-figure coach, why that may or may not be important to someone, and what’s crucial to reflect on before committing yourself to such a journey. Our resident coaches Siawash and Yannick both turn over well over the minimum threshold (though with quite different mindset around the topic), and Nicki has never really found such figures appealing or worth striving for, so in best TaC style we’re sharing our different perspectives on the topic and hope you’ll find it helpful!

See also:

Episode 32 - I want to charge more, but I don't feel confident that I'm worth it. Help!
Episode 34 - How can I create a steady stream of clients? _____
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Here’s the full question we’ve received from SY, which I took some editorial liberty with. They asked: “I feel like a fraud sometimes when I'm coaching others on topics that I personally struggle with. I know my coachees are the expert of their own life and I am not a mentor, but can't help feeling a little ashamed/ fear of being judged when I am not at a flourishing, thriving state.”

So here we are talking about feeling like an imposter when we feel we don’t have all our ducks in a row, or aren’t quite as aligned to ourselves as we feel we are expected to be.

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The question came up in a recent Coaching Cabinet and lots of helpful advice was offered to a coach who’s just starting out, so we figured we’d add to that list and share a few rounds of things we would have liked to have known when we started out as coaches, and some learnings that we’ve gathered along the way.

See also:

Episode 01 - Is it important to be qualified, accredited and certified?
Episode 05 - How much should I charge for coaching?

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Our colleague Steffano asked us about what to do differently when clients seem excited about working together, but then fall off the bandwagon in the weeks following the consultation. So in this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Siawash, Nicki and Yannick discuss the DOs and DON’Ts of that first conversation with a prospective client. We share a very much non-exhaustive list of relevant theory mixed with our own experience of what works and what doesn’t when it comes to successfully signing up new coaching clients.

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Episode 16 - Am I giving too much value during my coaching consultations?
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Stephen brought up the question around preparing for coaching sessions. While it can be helpful to have a set of questions, tools or exercises on hand, it can also distract from being fully present. Moving beyond how to prepare yourself as a coach mentally for a session (see episode 19), in today’s session our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are discussing the benefits and pitfalls of preparing content and questions for your client.

See also:
Episode 19 - How do you prepare for a coaching session?
Episode 36 - How do you start a coaching session?

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What does coaching look like 'in the real world' (beyond theory and what coaching schools teach us)? Who really is a clean coach (e.g. fully ICF competency compliant or steady within a specific school of thought or particular coaching approach)? What am I allowed and not allowed to do once I’m qualified and “out there”? Inspired by, and celebrating the public launch of the next evolution of Yannick’s Coaching Lab, TaC residents Yannick and Siawash went live on Facebook to discuss these questions.

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Most coaching schools teach us to be neutral, not to share our opinions, to work client-led. Coaching in the face of the climate crisis has challenged this perspective. Can coaches also be activists? Is it ever possible not to influence a client? And shouldn’t we be a positive influence in our clients’ lives anyway? How can I be authentic AND neutral? And how might attempting to stay neutral benefit or hinder the coaching process?

In today’s episode of Talking about Coaching, our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss these questions and more.

The conversations Yannick referenced at the beginning, which sparked this episode, can be found at https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEK9UENWT66CUcOyiLjUuEZ6281D6A47M

And the paper on neutrality is available at https://intranet.weatherhead.case.edu/document-upload/docs/2060.pdf

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There’s been a lot of talk about ChatGPT recently, especially since it coached a few people reasonably well. In a recent study, AI coaches performed better than human coaches on weight loss metrics. The development of AI i exponential, so we can expect huge shifts in quality and ability. So it’s a good time to discuss whether we need to be concerned about AI replacing human coaches, and how we might (need to) partner with AI to deliver best service for our clients, and indeed perhaps to stay relevant in the industry.

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Some clients just really need to hear that they’re on the right path, or that their idea is a good one, or that they’re worthy as human being. It’s a powerful thing to experience, and a gratifying gift to give. Yet, there’s a dark side to validation that our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki point to in today’s episode. We chat about getting sucked into “validation games”, when it is and isn’t helpful for a client to validate them or their behaviour, and we explore the difference between acknowledgement and validation. The conversation takes a turn and we open quite a few doors, so we’re curious where you’ll be taking this conversation. Let us know in the comments!

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Most coaches commit to showing up for their clients. Some do so much so that they’re coaching clients even when they’re really quite ill or would much rather hide under a blanket for one reason or another. What’s your threshold for cancelling a coaching session? How ill do you need to get to say “I can’t make it today”. What might the fallout be? And how might we make those decisions? Due to present circumstances, this and more is what our resident coaches Nicki, Siawash and Yannick discuss in today’s episode.
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We learn and grow so much when we’re coaching clients who are very different to us. Similarly, clients benefit a lot when they work with a coach who is different to them. We probably all appreciate that diversity leads to more innovation, yet most experts will tell us to speak to a very specific kind of person when marketing our coaching businesses, with the inevitable effect that we’re, by definition, reducing diversity in our clientele. Or is it?

Today’s question was sparked during a recent episode on another podcast (Animas's Coaching Uncaged Season 13 Episode 4 with Coaching Diversity Institute Founder Towanna Burrous) and our resident coaches Yannick, Nicki and Siawash decided to take the topic up and going a little deeper on the subject matter.

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On some level I always think “what are you hiding?” when I see someone with a blurred or virtual background. Imagine that’s what your client thinks when they first meet you? Does it inspire trust? Not really. On the other hand there are many reasons why a coach may choose not to reveal what’s happening behind them. Same goes for clients, and even if we can see their full frame clearly, we have no idea what’s happening outside of this frame, and it’s really worth getting curious about that. So in this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaching Yannick, Nicki and Siawash discuss if, when and how it may or may not be helpful to curate the visual coaching experience - with some big reveals!

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It’s one of the most regular topics that we see discussed: Is it going to help me to have my coaching fees on my website, or will it scare potential clients off? It seems like you can’t win either way: If the price is too low, they might think I’m not a good coach. If they’re too high, they’re not reaching out in the first place even though they probably would have invested once they get a sense for how powerful these conversations are. There are many good arguments for and against telling people how much you charge for your coaching service and in this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are discussing the ins and outs.

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Nobody needs a supervisor (with a good few notable exceptions perhaps) - every coach should want one, is the underlying message of today’s episode of Talking about Coaching. “I want every coach I know to listen to this conversation” Siawash concluded toward the end of this episode, Yannick got super excited and dove in deep on what supervision is, why it’s important and how broad the range is of what supervision can mean in practice, and Nicki shared her experience of being supervised as a relatively new coach and how she was able to secure low-cost supervision to support her practice. Come join us for a conversation about the pinnacle of reflective practice and why supervision will likely 10x your coaching revenue.

If you’d like to work with a coaching supervisor, there are many ways to find one. Here are a few options:

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  • https://directory.iccs.co/
  • www.coachfederation.org.uk/professional-development/supervision/
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  • www.coachingsupervisionacademy.com/csa-accredited-supervisors/
  • Google „find a coaching supervisor“

Ask Yannick to connect you with a supervisor-in-training from the International Centre for Coaching Supervision (https://iccs.co/) or contact them directly.

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It happens to the best of us: Something triggers our ego and instead of being present and focused on the client, we get a little hijacked and aren’t serving the client as best as we could have. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Nicki and Siawash are discussing why this is an important topic, how it can affect our work with our clients, and what we might do to let this happen as little as possible. We discuss the value of “doing your own work”, why supervision is such an important part of coaching, and we mentioned Yannick’s Coaching Uncaged episode with The Coaching Manual author Julie Starr, during which this topic was also covered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvk86MXWF0
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You’re 5 out of 6 contracted sessions into your coaching agreement. The last session is scheduled and the engagement is nearing the end. How do you approach the ending? What’s important to talk about before we go separate ways? How might I open up the conversation to explore the possibility of continuing to work together? How do I get a good testimonial? What might be a good “exit protocol”? Is it okay to ask for a referral or testimonial? All these and more questions are being discussed by our resident coaches Nicki, Siawash and Yannick in this episode of Talking about Coaching.

See also:
Episode 36 - How do you start a coaching session? On this link: https://youtu.be/D1Lqsff7hY8

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For most coaches it’s clear what their clients can expect from them. But what can coaches expect from their clients? In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are talking about responsibility, contracting and expectations. We’re raising questions about who does what in the coaching relationship and how we can have this conversation with our clients.

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Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.

This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and in this session we're talking to Tessa Dodwell about coaching a lost sense of self. Tessa has a passion for coaching people and businesses through transitions and, in her recent academic research, conducted the first UK study into coaching through the retirement transition.
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It seems to be the oldest question in the book: How do I get more coaching clients. I have a valuable service to offer and my clients really benefit, but how do I get my message in front of them? Those who hate being on social media or going to networks events may be considering paid advertising as a potential route into creating new leads, and so today our resident coaches Nicki, Siawash and Yannick will be talking about where coaches might advertise, what advertising is really about, how it may fit into a wider marketing strategy, and how not to waste 20k on failed campaigns.

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Episode 43: I sign up clients by talking to people. How can I create more conversations?

Episode 2: How do I get more clients?

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More and more coaches are interested in working with groups. SOme of that is motivated by being able to make coaching more affordable, and hence accessible - perfect for coaches who want to put their fees up but concerned that coaching shouldn’t be exclusive. But working with groups comes with layers of added complexity and it can be quite elusive as to what it is and how it can work. From life coaching groups to working with leadership teams, it’s a broad range, and today our resident hosts Yannick, Siawash and Nicki will be shining a light on how we might understand group coaching, what group work might look like, some of the benefits and pitfalls, as well as some practical insight into how Siawash and Yannick structure and run their groups.

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Episode 32: I want to charge more, but I don't feel confident that I'm worth it. Help!

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We’ve all been there: our client comes to coaching and present with something supre vague, like feeling more fulfilled, calmer, wanting a “better mindset”, or feeling more authentic. How might we work with something like that? Can we make such a goal more SMART (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time-bound)? Is that even desirable or of service to the client? In this episode our resident coaches Siawash, Nicki and Yannick discuss various ways to work with abstract goals, whether that’s making them more tangible, even measurable, or to explore what this goal is really about and to sit with the uncertainty and learn to trust the coaching process, even if it’s not as clear as we’d like it to be.

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Episode 21: Can I coach clients without setting a goal?

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Most of us have been there: our clients are not hitting their targets, they’re not doing their work, in some way or another they’re not achieving what they came to coaching for. Is this your fault? The client’s? Do any of you need to work harder? How do you address this? In this episode of talking about coaching our residents Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are exploring how we might navigate such situations. We talk about contracting, how to make sure that your client is getting what they want, or perhaps what they need, we talk about what the purpose of coaching is and appreciate the range of coaching approaches, some more and some less fixated, oriented, or focused on results.

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Steve Chandler and his disciples teach us that coaching clients are created through conversations, and they encourage us to seek as many conversations as we can with the intent to serve whomever we talk to. Now what happens when we run out of people to talk to? Somewhat rephrased for the sake of space in today’s episode’s title, the original question for today is: “I ran out of people to talk to about coaching. How can I create more conversations that may lead to paying clients?”
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In this episodes we’re discussing leading questions, and whether they’re really a big no-no, as often taught in coach training programmes, or whether there may be some value in offering direction as a coach, or even to ask questions in a way that makes the client think they’ve come up with the solution themselves, empowering in some way, manipulative if you look at it differently. We discuss the range of leading questions, the ethics of consciously leading your clients, the weight of taking on the responsibility when we choose to lead our clients, and the importance of supervision as to avoid leading in an unconscious way.

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Most coaches have experienced this: we’re with a friend, they tell us about a problem, dream or challenge they experience, and before we know it we’ve got our coaching hat on and asking questions, feeding back, clarifying, summarising or applying a process to help them figure this out. We likely didn’t ask for permission to coach them. We may be quite different with our coaching hat on and our friend somewhat irritated. Possibly they know us like that because we aren’t ‘doing’ coaching, we ARE coaches. Is it even a problem (as the question implies) or are we being an even better friend? How might this compare to other professions and when might it be appropriate to wear our coaching hat for a moment, perhaps even invite a friend into a formal coaching space? What are the pitfalls when we coach a friend? And how might we contract in such a situation? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki talk about this and more, and we give special thanks to Alice for sending in the question!

See also:
Episode 16 - Am I giving too much value during my coaching consultations?

Episode 09 - Is it best to coach clients in person (compared to video or phone)?

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Some coaches set themselves up as the expert in a certain area or niche. Others work very hard to meet their clients at eye level as to facilitate a process in which they can create their own expertise and take full responsibility for the way forward. And by no means is this a black-and-white issue in coaching. Sometimes the client maneuvers us into a position of expert as to avoid responsibility or simply because expert advice is what they’re after. It can be a complex dynamic to navigate. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki discuss the various elements at play in such a situation, the risks and benefits of being (seen as) the expert, and how we might manage such a situation when it presents itself. We also invite coaches to reflect to what extent they contribute to this process and what they can do to prevent it (if, indeed, that’s what they want).

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Episode 29 - I find it difficult to challenge my clients. What do I do?

Episode 23 - My client is asking for direct advice. What do I do?

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What started as a joke question after Nicki missed our last recording session became an interesting question about when to cancel a coaching session due to pain, feeling unwell or other distractions that may prevent us from being fully present with our clients. How much can we keep in our metaphorical box? At what point is it no longer appropriate to coach? How might we have that conversation? What’s at stake when we a) cancel or b) go ahead with the session? Do we need to disclose what’s going on for us? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick and Nicki have a much richer conversations than they had anticipated. Shout outs to Siawash who couldn’t make it today (non-hangover related ;) )

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Episode 6 - What shall I wear as a coach?

Episode 25 - What are good metaphors to explain how coaching works?
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We hear this a lot from the coaches who are most visible on social media: In order to be successful you must be obsessed with coaching and/or with building a business. You must do the grind if you want to make it. Those who work the hardest are the most successful. Coaches who are obsessed with helping their clients, with personal development or with a particular style of coaching, those will be successful. It is often implied that those who are not obsessed or work 14 hours/day won’t make it. In this episode of the Talking about Coaching Podcast our resident coaches Siawash and Nicki talk about how we might define success, obsession or grind and offer some context on the discussion. We share some of our personal stories and approaches, challenge some of the success narratives out there and we offer a way to success without detriment to your wellbeing and livelihood.

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Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
Episode 24 - How can I scale my coaching business?

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Good contracting may be one of the most important skills of a successful coach. Most times when a coach feels stuck with a client, doesn’t know how to proceed or encounters a challenging situation, the answers lies in what you’ve agreed with this client. In this episodes of the podcast our resident coaches Yannick and Siawash talk about whether the contract needs to be written or verbal, we propose a range of topics we might want to (should?) include in this conversations (beyond logistics, finances and expectations) and we make offer some general insights into why it is so important to get this part of the relationship right, as well as a number of practical tips and advice on how this can be done.

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Episode 36 - How do you start a coaching session?

Episode 21 - Can I coach clients without setting a goal?

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Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.

This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Ankush Jain, 6 figure coach, trained in the 3 principles approach, long term coaching client and colleague of the great Steve Chandler, and all-round excellent human being. I loved Ankush's vibe and found resonating with most of what he talks about. We had a wonderfully warm and inspiring conversation and I hope you'll be leaving this space as excited about coaching as I was when we hung up. You can learn more about Ankush and his work at

Ankush Jain Limited - Transformative Coaching

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What’s your process for starting a coaching session? is a question we hear often. “Well, it depends” is often the answer. And that’s also the way this episode starts. Our resident coaches Yannick, Siwash & Nicki are illuminating what these factors are and talk you through how they start coaching sessions. Plus we’re inviting all listeners to share their own processes of how to jump into a coaching session with a client.

See also:
Episode 19 - How do you prepare for a coaching session?

Episode 35 - What do I need in my “Coaching Starter Pack”?
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We’ve interpreted this question in two ways: 1) What do I need to start practicing as a coach? And 2) When a client signs up for coaching, what might I send them to get going and transition well into the process of coaching? So here we are talking about beginnings and how might get going when starting our coaching business or when starting to work with a new client.

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So many coaches dread doing “marketing”, being visible on social media, figuring out advertising, or going to network events, only to create a steady stream of clients for their coaching business. While there is no way around building bridges or creating touch points of some sort between you and prospective clients, there are many ways to do this, and in today’s episode our resident coaches Yannick & Siawash are talking about different pathways towards creating a steady flow of conversations and what you need to convert these into paying clients. In the process we’re reframing the terms “sales” and “marketing” and we’re offering ample advice and valuable ideas for how you can stabilize your income from your coaching work by learning some simple business practices and thinking about which of these might resonate with you.

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Episode 02 - How do I get more clients?

Episode 24 - How can I scale my coaching business?

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Last episode we talked about why every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for the space they create for their clients. “Just” being there for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t feel confident about it. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick & Siawash are picking up the thread from the conversation we’ve started and talking about the many factors that play into our coaching fees. Offering lots of practical advice and encouragement for coaches who are earning less than £5000/month, we’re talking you through the following list of elements that will (even should) influence and guide the kind of fees you’re charging. We’re confident that by the end of this episode you will feel compelled, and have a lot of solid reasons to increase your current fees. These are:

  • Client's ROI/the value that the client is walking away with
  • Market rates or what the competition (you care about) charges
  • What you're comfortable with/what you can say or pitch confidently (which can be worked on/improved with practice)
  • What resources the client has access to (salary, assets, savings, wealthy relatives/partners, sponsors, etc.)
  • The cost of acquisition (advertising, time spend networking, writing proposals, tickets to community events, etc)
  • What you've invested in your coach training/journey
  • What you might earn if you weren't a coach or if you'd spend your time doing something different
  • What it takes to get/keep the client really committed to the process
  • How much would you like to/do you need to earn?
  • Coaching experience/skills
  • Time spent outside the coaching room (e.g. tendering a contract, pre-meetings with HR or managers, writing reports or emails, etc.)
  • Expert knowledge, expertise or experience with what the client is struggling with (for coaches who offer guidance, advice or direction)
  • How large is your niche is (the fewer coaches who can do what you do, the more you are worth)

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Welcome to this episode of Talking about Coaching, the podcast from coaches for coaches.

This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person and we're talking to Georgie Nightingall, founder of Trigger Conversations and transformational life coach. I love Georgie's inspired thinking, the way she deeply contemplates and reflects and how she's learned to strike up conversations with strangers (which is a GOLDEN skill when it comes to creating a successful coaching practice. We're exploring a range of topics in this conversation, which, I'm sure, will leave you hungry for more.

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Lots of coaches would like to charge more for their coaching, but don’t feel confident that they’re worth the money. This can have a variety of reasons such as our own money stories, what the word “sell” means to us, and often a lack of some basic technical skills with regards to how we talk to our clients and how we run consultations. We believe every coach can (even should) be confident about charging for their time and the space they create for their clients. “Just being there” for and with them, offering our undivided attention, helps greatly and often works wonders. However, many coaches are keen to increase their prices but don’t think that their coaching is worth it. In this short episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are laying the groundwork for a longer conversation about how to raise our prices.

See also:
Episode 33 - I want to charge more. How can I increase my prices? (Part 2)
Episode 05 - How much should I charge for coaching?
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Even before we were hit with a global pandemic, coaching while walking, walk’n’talk, coaching in nature and other forms of being outside of a coaching “room” have sparked our interest. Now, more than ever, coaching clients outside has become relevant to many coaches. That’s why in this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki are discussing the benefits and pitfalls of coaching clients while walking. Done well your clients are in their bodies and there’s lots to be picked up on on a somatic level. You’re working shoulder-to-shoulder and this creates a wonderful dynamic. Elements you encounter on your walk can be used for the coaching work or as metaphors or here-and-now moments of learning and insight. Done badly it can seem unprofessional and awkward. So let’s talk about it. If you’ve done some walk-and-talks, we look forward to you sharing your input and experiences on this topic.
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A surprising majority of coaches we talk to regularly go over the agreed time for their coaching sessions. At the very least it happens occasionally. In therapy it’s a big no-go! Coaches seem to be a lot more relaxed about this, some even plan going over time into their contract and are more flexible. What we do know is that it affects our relationship and the boundaries we create in some form or another, and so in today’s episode our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat and Nicki Drab are talking about time, boundaries and some really practical advice on how we can end sessions on time, as well as when it may be important to go over.
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No decent coach enjoys making their clients uncomfortable. And yet, in order to grow fast, our clients often need to leave their comfort zone and venture into uncharted territory. An important part of the process is for the coach to offer questions and observations that may challenge the client’s beliefs or worldview. Many coaches, especially at the beginning of their journey, shy away from challenging confidently and to offer this in a way that’s productive. In this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss why challenging is important, how it can be done constructively, and we explore various theoretical models and practical metaphors for how this can and should be done in service of the client’s agenda.
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This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Sasha van Deurzen Smith, existential coach, Programme Leader of the MA in Existential Coaching at the New School for Psychotherapy and Counselling, daughter of Emmy van Deurzen and one of the first coaches with a Masters in Existential Coaching. We've got a lot to talk about and we hope you'll enjoy our philosophical and yet very practical musings on coaching. 

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Many coaches carry the weight of feeling responsible for their clients’ success (or lack thereof). We hear about this often in supervision. When it takes longer than planned for their clients to reach their goal or they get frustrated along the way, many coaches ask: Could I have done more? What did I do wrong so that this client doesn’t achieve what they set out to do? What if they ask for their money back or leave me a bad review? Am I good enough? What else can I do to get them to move forward?

The weight of taking on too much responsibility can weigh heavily on a coach, and so our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki thought it was important to address this question and talk about the extent to which we share responsibility for our clients’ success or failure. What can and what can we not control or influence? How far are we willing and able to go with our support? What did we promise and contract at the beginning?
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What is effective coaching? And what does an effective coaching session look like? How would you structure a session for an effective outcome? What’s the process? Much of the answers to these questions depend on individual context, but effective coaching also has many elements in common. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss their takes on effective coaching, how structure provides safety for clients and coaches alike, and why particularly those who are new to coaching will appreciate a clearly structured session to guide them towards an effective outcome. WIth time and maturity, effective coaching may take on many forms and we draw some of these learnings out as we reflect on our fresh, 4-year and decade-long experience, respectively.

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This episode is one of Yannick's deep dives into one topic or person. We're talking to Eric Larson, coach of 15 years and with over 10.000 hours on his back. We're exploring the importance of play in coaching both as a technique as well as a rich metaphor for how people approach life. We talk about finite games, infinite games, how to figure out the "rules" and lots more.

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What is effective coaching? And what does an effective coaching session look like? How would you structure a session for an effective outcome? What’s the process? Much of the answers to these questions depend on individual context, but effective coaching also has many elements in common. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss their takes on effective coaching, how structure provides safety for clients and coaches alike, and why particularly those who are new to coaching will appreciate a clearly structured session to guide them towards an effective outcome. WIth time and maturity, effective coaching may take on many forms and we draw some of these learnings out as we reflect on our fresh, 4-year and decade-long experience, respectively.

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When the CoViD-19 pandemic peaked in 2020, most coaches started working exclusively online, and so our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki decided to share some of their most asked-about tips and tricks for running coaching sessions via video conferencing. We’ll talk about lighting, eye contact, external cameras, and how we don’t need to buy fancy equipment to make coaching work effectively online.

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Explaining what coaching is (and isn’t) is an important part of the process for coaches who set up the working alliance and contract for an effective coaching space. Metaphors can help tremendously to help clients grasp and understand coaching. Since there’s a broad range of what coaching might look like and entail and everybody seems to have their own definition and approach, our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki decided to each share one metaphor that they sometimes use to explain the differences between coaching, therapy, mentoring, consulting, teaching and being a friend. In the process we’ll talk about surfing, driving a car and mountaineering, and we find that these metaphors are richer and more versatile than we had thought.

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Nicki wanted to give her coaching practice a business boost and asked us how to choose the right kind of programme out of the jungle of available courses online. Without advertising any specific courses or programmes, in this episode we’re talking about the criteria and questions that are important to consider before making such a choice. We’re talking about how to find out which programme might be a good match, how to make sure you’re not getting scammed or sucked into large investments by a charismatic salesperson or marketing material. And we’re hearing first-hand about one coach’s journey through the jungle of business programmes. We’d love to hear your perspective on this. Do join the conversation!

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Marina is one of the many coaches who I recently talked to about how essential goal setting is to our work as coaches. Can we coach someone without having a clear agenda? Does it need to be SMART (specific, measurable, achievable, relevant and time-bound)? Is it okay if the goal emerges along the way? What if it’s vague? Should we spend time making it more specific? Is it still coaching if we start a conversation without having a clear anchor to our work? In this episode of Talking about Coaching our hosts Yannick Jacob, Siawash Zahmat and Nicki Drab are exploring all of these questions and more and we’d love to hear your perspective too!

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Silence - one of the most powerful interventions during a conversation. Yet, so many people are deeply uncomfortable when nobody’s talking. Many coaches, especially when they’re starting out, are overly concerned with providing value or not to make the client feel uncomfortable, that they often fill silences quickly during a coaching session. Sometimes it’s best to speak, sometimes it’s best to hold an uncomfortable silence. What do coaches need to know about how to use silences in their practice? How might we contract for it? When are they not useful? And is it still coaching if we were to spend the majority of our time not talking? This and more we discuss in today’s episode. We hope you find value in it.

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Imola asked us how we prepare for a coaching session, so in this episode we each share a few things we do ahead of seeing a coaching client that help us prepare for our sessions. We’d love to hear what you’re doing to prep for your sessions and coaching clients. 

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Coaching stands and falls with the quality of the relationship between coach and client. And then there are hundreds of different coaching approaches and millions of different coaches and coachees. How do you make sure your client is a good fit? How can you tell that the service you have to offer will be a good match for your client’s wants and needs? In this episode our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Nicki Drab and Siwash Zahmat discuss how you can make sure that you’re working with the right kind of client.

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Assunta asked us the question that many new coaches have on their mind. It can be difficult to ascertain how much to charge for their coaching services. Some coaches jump in with high ticket fees, others coach for free until they find the confidence to charge for sessions. Following up from Episode 5, in this episode Yannick, Siawash and Nicki discuss the most important factors that play into setting your prices and suggest practical ways that will help you decide how much to charge your clients for coaching.

For more talk about fees check out Episode 5 (How much should I charge for coaching?) and Episode 7 (Is any coach worth $5000?)

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Kelly asked us whether it may not be advisable to provide too much value during her consultations as she had a few clients who ended up getting what they need from the first session and then didn’t sign up for the actual coaching. In this episode of Talking about Coaching our resident coaches Yannick Jacob, Siwash Zahmat and Nicki Drab discuss what plays into this, how we might navigate a situation in which the client gets so much value they consider not signing up for a coaching package or further sessions and how we might use this as an opportunity.

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Accountability is a powerful motivational force. Feeling accountable to someone is a major driver of behaviour for many people. We said we will do it, so we want to keep our word, not embarrass ourselves, preserve our integrity or whatever else is driving us towards the result. Most people work well with deadlines. Sometimes it is enough for a client to have the next session booked in to feel accountable. But there is a lto more we can do as a coach to harvest the power of accountability in our coaching. However, there are also downsides around key issues such as dependency, responsibility or or how it may affect the coach-client relationship, so we need to tread carefully when using accountability in our coaching. In today’s episode we’ll be talking about the benefits and pitfalls of working with accountability as a coach.

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You’re sitting there, all ready to coach, but your client isn’t turning up. Or you’ve prepared for your coaching session and blocked the time in your calendar, perhaps even said "no" to other clients or friends, but then your client cancels at short notice. How do you deal with this kind of scenario? We’re here to shed some light on what’s important to consider when this happens to you and offer some practical suggestions in how to deal with these situations.

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One of the most frequently asked questions of coaches who are just starting out is whether they need a very specific niche in order to be successful at signing up new clients. Some coaches will argue that it’s best to niche as narrow as you can, so that your clients know you’re speaking directly to them. Others will tell you that they are simply “life coaches” and they work with anyone on anything and operate successfully. And then there’s anything in between. So it’s a confusing subject and today we’re trying to shed some light on it, talk about the various ways in which we might niche and discuss the question of whether we need a niche at all when running a coaching business.

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Some coaches take copious notes during their coaching sessions. Others never write anything down. Many write reflections after their coaching sessions to keep track of actions, achievements or specific contexts that they then review before the next meeting. In this episode we discuss note taking and how it can aid or hinder the coaching process and relationship.

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Some coaches work session by session on a pay-as-you-go basis. Most coaches, however, work with their clients as part of a series of sessions packaged together and sold as a unit. Some call it their coaching programme, coaching offer, coaching journey or coaching package. The question we are discussing in this episode is how to best package your coaching sessions and whether that’s a good idea to start with as well as how you would know how many sessions a client needs to get what they want from the coaching.

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The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.

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The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.

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The current coronavirus pandemic has shook most of us. Some coaches are busier than ever as they help clients make sense of what’s happening and transition into a new way of life or business. Others struggle severely to keep their businesses and psychological wellbeing afloat.

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An interesting challenge we come across in our work as coaches is when our client talks so much we barely get a word in. How can we coach them to keep them focused and on track without (rudely?) interrupting them or missing out on important information?

In this episode our resident coaches Yannick, Siawash and Nicki talk about ways in which we can contract to interrupt, how important it is to frame our coaching space and agree on how we work with out clients and how we can respectfully get a foot in the door of our clients' growth.

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Trainee coaches often ask: "Is it better to see coaching clients face-to-face as compared to video calls like Zoom or Skype or telephone coaching?".

Even experienced coaches have, in my experience, often not really reflected on how and why they work the way they do. It just so happened that they do most of their coaching the way they do and it's worth zooming in on this interesting topic.

Truth is all formats have their pros and cons and in today's episode we're discussing what some of these are. What are your preferences?

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You may have been in this scenario before: A client approaches you for coaching but along the way you get the feeling that they might be in need of a therapist. Maybe there's a past trauma, they want to delve deeper than you feel comfortable or perhaps you're at your wit's end and feel they need a different sort of intervention. How far can you go? Where's the line? How can we know? What to say? And who makes the rules anyway?

In this episode our resident coaches Siawash, Nicki and Yannick discuss the topic of coaching vs. therapy.

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Some coaches charge tremendous amounts for a single session. We've heard various different versions of the above question over the years and wanted to address how in some instances this is justified while in others you're probably being scammed.

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In this episode Nicki, Siawash and Yannick are discussing what to wear as a coach and whether there are any rules or guidelines. We tell some entertaining anecdotes and talk about why it does and doesn't matter what you wear as a life or buiness coach. 

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In this episode we're talking about a question we hear often from coaches who are starting out: How much should I charge for my coaching services? This is a complex question and there are many answers. We hope to provide some interesting angles on the question that can help you figure out the right amount and different pays to charge for your coaching. 

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In this episode we're discussing whether it's helpful to assign clients homework, growth actions or other exercises to do between sessions as to help them grow. 

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This is probably the most asked question by coaches, certainly the one we see most often on forums, groups and when we coach other coaches who are trying to build their businesses. How do we get to help more people? How can we create conversations with prospects so that we get to work with them? How can we sign up enough clients so that we can live off of our coaching skills?

The answer is complex and there's no one right way to do this. In this episode we start the conversation by opening up some ideas on how this could be done. Rest assured this question will come back often.

Here's a helpful chapter from Yannick's book on how to get more clients. Completely free and direct download, no sign up necessary: http://www.coachingandmediation.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Yannick-Jacob-Establishing-an-existential-coaching-practice-Routledge-2018-Review-Copy.pdf
Hope it helps!

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In this episode we consider some different approaches for coaching a client who comes to their first coaching session with no agenda, no goal and perhaps no real hunger to work on themselves. 

Especially when you're starting out as a coach and your fees are relatively low or perhaps you coach pro bono as part of your training, this is a common issue for life coaches.

Coaches in organisations also face this issue often as the client in the room is not paying for the service and so they can be less committed to the process. 

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In this episode we share our views on whether it's important to get a coaching qualification and whether it's necessary to be certified and accredited in order to be a good life or business coach. We come across this question often when talk about coaching with other coaches. It's also a topic that comes up often for coaches in supervision. Opinions vary considerably so we wanted to discuss it. Let us know what you think! 

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Here we are, talking about coaching. 

We, that is Yannick Jacob, Positive Existential Coach, Supervisor and former Programme Leader of the MSc Coaching Psychology at the University of East London; Siawash Zahmat, 6-figure High Performance Coach and founder of the Muslim Coaching Academy, Nicki Drab, recently qualified life coach, professional photographer and representing all coaches new to the field. 

In this episode we're introducing why we're doing this and who we are. 

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