Over The Edge: Recent Episodes
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Over The Edge is a podcast about edge computing and those in the industry who are creating the future of the internet.
On the show we talk to corporate leaders, open-source experts, technologists, journalists, analysts, and the community at large, to discuss technological innovations, trends, practical applications, business models, and the occasional far-flung theory.
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Dell Technologies.
This episode features an interview between Bill Pfeifer and Ananta Nair, Artificial Intelligence Engineer at Dell Technologies, where she leads AI and ML software initiatives for large enterprises.
Ananta discusses differences between human learning and AI models, highlighting the complexities and limitations of current AI technologies. She also touches on the potential and challenges of AI in edge computing, emphasizing the importance of building efficient, scalable, and business-focused models.
Key Quotes:“It's very hard to take these AI structures and say that they can do all of these very complex things that humans can do, when they're architecturally designed very differently. I'm a big fan of biologically inspired, not biologically accurate.”
“Do you really need AGI for a lot of real world applications? No, you don't want that. Do you want some really complex system where you have no idea what you're doing, where you're pouring all this money in and you know, you're not really getting the results that you want? No, you want something very simple outcomes razor approach, make it as simple as possible, scalable, can adapt, can measure for all of your business metrics”
“We have reached a point where you can do the most with AI models with minimal compute than ever. And so I think that is very exciting. I think we have reached a point where you have very capable models that you can deploy at the edge and I think there's a lot of stuff happening in that realm.”
Timestamps:
(01:20) How Ananta got started in tech and neuroscience
(04:59) Human learning vs AI learning
(15:11) Explaining dynamical systems
(26:57) Exploring AI agents and human behavior
(30:43) Edge computing and AI models
(32:58) Advancements in AI model efficiency
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Ananta on LinkedIn
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How have data centers evolved and how will we adapt to meet modern data storage demands? In this episode Bill sits down with John Bonczek, Chief Revenue Officer of fifteenfortyseven Critical Systems Realty, a leading developer of highly interconnected, custom-designed data centers.
They discuss the impact of AI on power and cooling requirements and the growing interest in edge deployments. John also highlights the importance of planning, customer requirements, and the challenges of building data centers to meet modern demands.
Key Quotes:“ And I believe everyone in the space, including AI and hyperscalers, are planning further ahead, as well. Partially because you have to, but you look at the consumption of some of these AI companies that are coming in and gobbling up all of the available inventory out there that meets their needs, it's just causing a lack of inventory to be available.”
“There's going to be a next wave from AI, more of the inference applications that are more of the edge applications that require lower latency and more real time compute and learning.”
Timestamps:
(01:45) How John got started in tech
(06:45) Data centers and edge deployments
(11:13) Challenges in modern data centers
(20:29) The role of AI
(31:01) Power and sustainability in data centers
(35:50) Nomad Futurists and the future workforce
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow John on LinkedIn
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How does the Tour de France collect data and provide real time stats to viewers? Shahid Ahmed, EVP for New Ventures and Innovations at NTT, argues that the work they do to track the Tour de France is the ultimate edge use case. He also dives into small AI models and localized data at the edge, as well as educating for the future of jobs in tech.
Key Quotes:“ I think [tracking the Tour de France] is one of the most fascinating edge use cases that I've seen in a while…. We’ve got cyclists going at north of 50 miles an hour, 60 miles an hour sometimes, and they're moving across a variety of different towns, villages, mountains, always a challenge from a network coverage perspective. It's a very difficult equation just from that movement part.”
“If you tune in to NBC, which covers the Tour de France, or USA Network, which is the sister network, you'll always see the live coverage of stats…. Live data is a must have and it has to have very small latency, meaning it can't be five seconds later when the cyclist has gone down or finished across the line.”
Timestamps:
(01:32) How Shahid got started in tech
(04:55) Innovations in 5G
(09:06) Challenges and innovations in the Tour de France
(18:01) Edge AI and industrial applications
(27:38) Lessons from a global role and regulatory challenges
(34:03) Teaching Industrial IoT and preparing the workforce
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Shahid on LinkedIn
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How are AI and edge computing revolutionizing the retail industry? In this episode, Bill sits down with Omar El Gohary, Vice President and General Manager of IoT Solutions at ServiceNow. Omar shares how AI and edge computing are transforming retail by optimizing operational efficiencies and reshaping customer experiences. He also delves into the challenges of managing distributed data, the impact of GenAI, and the opportunities for innovation in today’s fast-paced retail environment.
Key Quotes:“ Technology that is use case driven, that brings you benefit, that's where retailers have to go and that's where the benefits lie.”
“You do see that retailers that have more robust processes, that have integrated their entire value chain, that are able to act on data and be proactive and not reactive, will definitely have an advantage.”
“ One of the key words is how do you reduce the barrier to the adoption of the use cases, right? And that is by having the correct edge device, by having the right data approach and bringing the silos together, and having the right AI components.”
Timestamps:
(04:27) Evolving with technology in retail
(06:33) Challenges in digitizing the retail industry
(14:38) Technology adoption and its impact on retail
(18:00) Breaking down data silos
(27:03) Managing distributed data at the edge
(39:03) GenAI’s role in transforming retail
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Omar on LinkedIn
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Reimagining Intelligent Modern Retail: Redefining the Retail Experience for Tomorrow
Learn more about ServiceNow:
- https://www.servicenow.com/industries/retail.html
- https://www.servicenow.com/products/retail-operations.html
- https://www.servicenow.com/company/media/press-room/now-assist-ai-industry-solutions.html
In this episode, Bill sits down with Paul Savill, Global Practice Leader of Networking and Edge Compute at Kyndryl, a company that builds and modernizes the world's critical technology systems. Paul provides insights on the cultural challenges between IT and OT teams, the implementation of edge computing across industries, and innovative use cases including robotics in retail, AI deployment, and private 5G networks
Key Quotes:“To really leverage AI, you have to start with a data foundation. Are you collecting enough information? Is the information that you're collecting correct? Have you got good data integrity? And do you have enough of it over time?”
“The value of private 5G networks lies in empowering enterprises to innovate within their own environments.”
“The biggest cultural challenge is bridging the gap between IT and OT—it’s a dynamic of trust and risk.”
Timestamps:
(01:11) How Paul got started in tech
(05:43) Challenges in IT and OT integration
(15:08) Industry use cases and innovations
(16:45) Bitcoin mining and edge computing
(21:10) AI models and custom solutions
(26:33) Global trends and private 5G
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Paul on LinkedIn
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In this episode, we dive into the current state of AI and its future ramifications for society with Ed Henry, Distinguished Engineer - Artificial Intelligence at Dell and an expert with over 18 years in the tech industry. In a conversation that weaves between science and philosophy, Bill and Ed discuss the challenges of model drift, the societal impacts of technological "feudalism," and the implications of AI trying to recreate human intelligence.
Key Quotes:“Should people get involved in AI? Yes, it's going to become a technology that is not going away. Pandora's box has been opened and we're not closing it anytime soon. I do believe that write once, run once code is coming.”
“ It used to be that technology was a differentiator for a company. It's not anymore; it's a necessity. What you build on top of that technology that becomes a differentiator.”
Timestamps:
(01:47) How Ed got started in tech
(04:46) Understanding AI model drift
(08:51) Transformers and future AI applications
(18:58) Technological feudalism and social implications
(33:24) The philosophical pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence
(34:12) The role of AI in automation
(48:44) The limitations of current AI models
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Ed on LinkedIn
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How is technology shaping the future of neurosurgery? In this episode, Bill sits down with Dr. Lawton, President and CEO of Barrow Neurological Institute, Robert F. Spetzler Endowed Chair for Neurosciences, and Chair of the Department of Neurosurgery. Dr. Lawton discusses the ways he is bringing new technologies and innovation to neurosurgery, as well as how it could improve patients outcomes and broaden the field’s scope of impact.
Key Quotes:“If we're able to have these huge datasets where we can take all the brain tumor patients and then go back 10 years before they were ever diagnosed and see what was abnormal then, it might open up these ways to predict or diagnose or even prevent some of these diseases before they get started.”
“It's a technological revolution that has all of a sudden allowed us to envision things in neurosurgery that incorporate this tech in ways that we never had 20 years ago… I think probably the best example of that is the brain computer interface. There's the perfect example of how technology and engineering brought into neurosurgery is going to change the world.”
“Instead of taking just six variables, we can take a hundred variables and we can feed them into the black box of AI, and we can look at way more than just those six. And maybe our decision making will be better. Maybe our predictive powers will be different.”
Timestamps:
(02:26) Integrating technology in neurosurgery
(06:37) Brain-Computer Interfaces
(09:56) Expanding neurosurgical training
(19:09) AI in neurosurgery: Diagnostics and beyond
(29:16) Mysteries of the Mind and understanding the mind
(34:35) Future of neurosurgery in emotional and cognitive interventions
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Watch Dr. Lawton share his vision for how AI and edge solutions can be used to transform neurosurgery
Follow Dr. Lawton on X and Instagram
Learn more about Barrow Neurological Institute and neurosurgery
Get to know Barrow President and CEO Michael T. Lawton, MD
Discover more about Barrow Neurological Institute's newest research quest to solve the mysteries of the mind
Watch Dr. Lawton operate in this collection of neurosurgical operative videos
Find out what it's like to be a neurosurgeon by watching three seasons of Barrow Neurosurgery Base Camp
Follow Barrow Neurological Institute on YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn, X and Facebook
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How are digital cities transforming the future of urban living? In this episode, Bill chats with Bai Lu, Senior Technologist for Global Digital Cities at Dell, to explore the evolution of digital cities and how they're redefining traditional urban frameworks. Bai Lu shares her journey from engineering to leading digital transformation while exploring how edge computing reduces latency, boosts security, and powers digital twins for smarter city planning. They also dive into the challenges of building digital city projects and highlight innovations like Toyota’s Woven City, offering a glimpse into the future of more connected, sustainable urban landscapes.
Key Quotes:“One way that we can help the city planners using a digital twin platform is to actually help the city planners to predict. What will be the potential issue that is affecting their sustainability plan, like city traffic or air pollution or noise pollution, when they actually want to build a new project?”
“The thing that I'm really looking forward to is this equality of using technology for everyone. There will be no limit to anyone because of location, connectivity, or because of age. I believe the future is not far.”
Timestamps:
(01:23) Bai Lu's journey into technology
(05:17) Edge computing in digital cities
(09:02) Digital city projects and use cases
(12:44) Understanding digital twins
(15:47) Bai Lu's favorite digital cities deployment
(21:04) Sustainability in digital cities
(27:42) Breaking down the complexities of digital city projects
(35:23) Toyota Woven City: A futuristic vision
(40:59) Future of digital cities and edge computing
Sponsor:Edge solutions are unlocking data-driven insights for leading organizations. With Dell Technologies, you can capitalize on your edge by leveraging the broadest portfolio of purpose-built edge hardware, software and services. Leverage AI where you need it; simplify your edge; and protect your edge to generate competitive advantage within your industry. Capitalize on your edge today with Dell Technologies.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Learn more about Dell Technologies Smart City Solutions
Check-out Bai Lu’s recent blog on Forbes
Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Follow Bai Lu on LinkedIn
How is AI transforming security at the edge? In this episode, Bill sits down with Inna Ushakova, Co-Founder and CEO at AI EdgeLabs, to explore the evolving landscape of edge security and its unique challenges compared to cloud and data center security. They discuss the constraints and risks specific to edge environments, the need for lightweight, AI-driven security solutions, and the current state of edge security across various industries. Together, they offer insights into how proactive and automated security measures are reshaping security practices at the edge.
Key Quotes:“If you talk about adopting AI and machine learning, me personally, I don't really consider this as a huge revolution because it's already a must-have for us. It's not something that we have the privilege to implement or not to implement. It should be already done. You should have it already.”
‘There should be some shift from reactive to proactive security.”
Timestamps:
(01:54) Inna's journey into tech
(02:17) Understanding security across environments
(04:48) Challenges in edge security
(06:45) Current threats and vulnerabilities
(09:04) Implementing effective edge security
(14:05) AI-driven cybersecurity
(27:48) Security regulations at the edge
(32:40) Edge security across industries
(38:59) Future of edge security
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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What makes data lakehouses a game changer in modern data management? In this episode, Bill sits down with Alex Merced, Senior Tech Evangelist at Dremio, to explore the evolution of data lakehouses and their role in bridging the gap between data lakes and data warehouses. Alex breaks down the components of data lakehouses and dives into the rise of Apache Iceberg.
Key Quotes:“I love just get really deep into technology, really see what it does. And then scream at the rooftops how cool it is. And basically that was my charter. And [Apache] Iceberg, the more I learned about it, the more I realized this is really interesting.”
“Interoperability and data. Basically, a lot of the things that kept data in silos is now breaking apart.”
"So here we're talking about something that's going to be a standard. And that's when I think of the highest levels of openness matter because if it's something that a whole industry is going to build on, it should be something that the whole industry has to say in its evolution…And that's the beauty of openness that it does create these nice sort of places where we can collaborate and compete together.”
Timestamps:
(01:32) How Alex got started in his career
(03:54) Breaking down data lakehouses
(07:08) The idea behind an open data lakehouse
(10:10) Alex's involvement with Apache Iceberg
(15:13) Key components of a data lakehouse
(23:41) The growth of Apache Iceberg
(32:07) Dremio's Apache Iceberg crash course
(38:43) Explaining self-service analytics
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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How will we feed the growing population while making agriculture more sustainable?
In this episode, Bill sits down with Vikram Adve, to discuss. Vikram is an Illinois Grainger Engineering professor in the Siebel School of Computing and Data Science and Director of the AIFARMS National AI Institute for Agriculture.
Vikram highlights the growing importance of digital agriculture, and how data and technology will play crucial roles in addressing global food production challenges, sustainability, and climate resilience. He also discusses AI's pivotal role and offers insights into optimizing machine learning at the edge.
Key Quotes:“The sustainability and the environmental constraints that we have to impose to increase productivity is a very, very difficult set of challenges. And so technology is becoming increasingly important in order to meet those challenges."
“All of these technologies are becoming important because agriculture faces some major challenges worldwide. Probably the biggest and simplest one to understand is that we have to increase food production over the next 25 to 30 years by as much as probably 60 percent.”
Timestamps:
(01:30) How Vikram got started in tech
(03:37) Defining digital agriculture
(07:14) How does AI impact sustainability?
(19:51) Optimizing machine learning in agriculture
(31:30) Near data processing
(37:34) The future of data processing at the edge
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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Edge Solutions | Dell Technologies
What’s the real state of AI adoption, and how can edge computing play a crucial role in driving innovation? In this episode, Bill is joined by Nick Brackney, Senior Consultant of Generative AI Messaging at Dell. Nick has 20 years of experience across a variety of technology domains, spanning startups, tech giants and consulting work. The two discuss the true state of AI adoption and how inferencing and Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG) will unlock new business opportunities at the edge.
Key Quotes:“I think AI is going to be synonymous with edge at some point, right? It's going to be that the only applications out there are AI-enabled applications.”
“Especially for the folks here who like the edge, RAG is the only way to do real-time, because fine-tuning, there's always going to be this delay. If I want to take my data from the edge, and I want to retrain my machine, that's going to take cycles, hours of GPU time to do. But if I want to just side load it into the generative AI using RAG, that could be instantaneous.”
Timestamps:
(01:10) How Nick got started in tech
(04:09) What is the state of AI adoption?
(09:48) Understanding Retrieval Augmented Generation (RAG)
(14:11) Generative AI at the edge
(23:57) Achieving results with custom models
(24:41) Applications and benefits of synthetic data
(32:44) Advancements in chip development
(38:20) AI, PCs, and the tech refresh cycle
(40:07) Data sovereignty and edge AI
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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How will AI at the edge reshape how we interact with our devices? In this episode, Bill sits down with Nicole Reineke, Distinguished Product Manager - AI Strategy at N-able to dive into the future of AI, discussing distributed AI, the shifting interaction paradigm and the future of large action models. Nicole argues that this is the most exciting time in edge device management in her career, diving into how AI can revolutionize device management, drive creativity, and spark business innovation.
Key Quotes:“This is seriously the most exciting time in edge device management that I've ever witnessed. And I've been in edge device management for three decades.”
“You have this offline capability that understands and can control all of your device behavior and can understand your intent or your natural language request. And it's going to completely change the paradigm of how our devices operate. It's going to change how we interact with them. It's going to be huge and it's going to be fast.”
“Large action models… can be seen as an extension of a language model. It's the ability to take a set of inputs and use those inputs to create a trigger and that trigger can perform an action against something.”
Timestamps:
(01:40) How Nicole got started in tech
(06:27) Edge devices and the shifting interaction paradigm
(18:03) Distributed AI and its implications
(23:29) Role of humans in AI and automation
(27:12) Choosing the right AI model for your data
(34:40) What's the next great skill in AI?
(38:10) Ways to stay ahead
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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What is the future of private wireless and what role will the edge play? In this conversation, Bill sits down with David de Lancellotti, Executive Vice President - Global Head of Enterprise Campus Edge Business at Nokia to discuss private wireless in depth. The two dive into different use cases, across stadiums and manufacturing, and discuss when private wireless could be preferable to 4G, 5G or WiFi.
Key Quotes:“There's a lot of customers that need privatization…. I don't think commodity is such a bad word in the sense that at some point, I really see it coming, where, whether it's a brownfield or a greenfield application that you're building for, a port, mine, stadium, what have you, that private network is just like one of the boxes you check.”
“More than one utility in California had to literally shut off the grid. They had to turn people down to make sure that these wires that would, because of wind, knock a wire down and start a fire. So what if that wire broke? And what if, by the time it hit the ground, it knew to turn itself off?”
Timestamps:
01:05 How David got started in tech
02:03 Defining Campus Edge and understanding private wireless
07:44 Worker safety and applications
14:41 The challenges of global projects
16:26 Private 4G/5G vs. Public Networks
26:40 Private wireless in stadiums
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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Edge Solutions | Dell Technologies
AI is revolutionizing building energy management. In this episode, Bill sits down with Jean-Simon Venne, Co-Founder and CTO at BrainBox AI at BrainBox AI about their cutting-edge AI solutions for energy efficiency. They dive into current AI challenges, the critical need for defining AI's purpose, and the impact of predictive and preemptive control. Additionally, they discuss how to balance AI power consumption with efficiency gains.
Key Quotes:
“The bottleneck is now on your capacity to find the right mix of technology to assemble a new solution.”
"You could very rapidly deploy AI in thousands and thousands of buildings, without any bottleneck, and get the first layer of 20, 25 percent energy reduction.”
“I think where the future is going in terms of optimizing is not only the building at the building level but optimizing the behavior of the building. So the grid could be optimized.”
Timestamps:
(01:48) Jean-Simon's career journey
(04:22) Current bottlenecks in AI
(07:07) Bias in AI models
(13:22) Understanding the complexities of building operations
(20:44) Factors influencing AI predictions
(25:20) Energy consumption in buildings
(28:12) Clustering buildings for grid optimization
(35:00) Developing specialized LLMs for building management
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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Edge Solutions | Dell Technologies
5G technology is revolutionizing enterprise computing by enhancing data movement and connectivity. In this episode, Bill sits down with Jim Brisimitzis, Founder and General Partner at 5G Open Innovation Lab, to explore his career from Nortel to Microsoft and the transformative potential of 5G technology. Jim discusses the evolution of private 5G networks, enterprise use cases, and the critical role of connectivity in driving innovation.
Key Quotes: “My belief is this moment of AI, the evolution of 5G, the emergence of private networks, and edge as opportunities is truly a transformation point for the industry.”
“The network is evolutionary, but the use cases on the backend of those networks that they're now enabled is revolutionary.”
“I've seen these major waves of technology evolutions that got me really excited about 5G and Edge.”
Timestamps:
(02:00) Jim’s career journey
(05:48) What is the 5G Open Innovation Lab?
(19:41) Private 5G vs. Wi-Fi in Enterprises
(25:02) The private 5G network: Evolutionary or revolutionary?
(31:42) Automation and workforce resistance
(34:30) Addressing the silver tsunami
(37:02) The role of technology in knowledge transfer
(40:26) Jim’s key lessons learned
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
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How will progress at the edge change our homes, cars and the electrical grid? In this conversation, Bill sits down with Kai Hackbarth, Senior Tech Evangelist at Bosch Global Software Technologies for a wide ranging discussion around Kai’s work at the OSGI foundation, and the complexities of smart homes, smart vehicles and the challenges posed to the electrical grid.
Key Quotes:“Electricity is not the answer for cars. to call it like this. So, if everybody drives an electric vehicle, no grid can manage this.”
“The grid was never designed for renewable energy sources.”
“I think hydrogen will come, right? It's not yet ready for cars”
Timestamps:
(00:00) How Kai got started in tech
(06:28) Kai’s definition of edge
(13:06) Smart homes and smart assisted living facilities
(20:39) Kai’s work with the OSGI
25:29 Challenges and innovations in smart grid technology
28:49 The future of electric and hydrogen vehicles
32:51 Software-defined vehicles and industry challenges
39:00 Developments in edge tech and sustainability
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
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Organizations need access to digital infrastructure and communications networks to leverage AI in a cost effective way. In this episode, Bill sits down with Global Leader of TMT and Global Industries AI Leader at EY, to discuss digital infrastructure in an emerging AI world. The two talk about the judgment calls we will have to make about AI and how culture impacts AI use.
Key Quotes:“The people part of generative AI is every bit as important to get traction as the technology is.”
“All the forecasts are saying that roughly 75 percent of the data over the next 10 years that we see, that's acted upon for AI or any other business use, is going to come from edge computing. It's a groundswell. This is a huge trend.”
“As edge computing rises, you're creating more points of entry for bad actors. So the importance of cyber has never been higher.”
“Moving all this data that AI requires means huge investment in communications networks, even more than we've got today…. People don't think about moving the data. They think about what I'm going to do with it. They don't think about what this gigantic swell of volume of data is going to go….Enabling communications infrastructure has got to be a priority for virtually every nation state right now.”
Timestamps:
(01:25) How Greg got started in tech
(09:38) AI shifting from a feature/function to a focus business outcome
(14:35) Bespoke models at scale
(19:00) What bandwidth do we allow AI to work within?
(32:59) How corporate and geographic cultures impact the use of AI
(34:46) Navigating regulation and security concerns with AI at the edge
(41:29) The need to invest in communications networks to move data
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
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“How can you take the trust that you have in the data center when you deliver data, and how can you stretch that from the far edge, to a gateway, to an edge server, to the core, to the cloud?” Steve Todd, Fellow & VP of Data Innovation and Strategy at Dell Technologies, predicted 25 years ago that the problem of data trust on the edge would be important today. In this conversation, he discusses the long process behind building a solution.
Key Quotes:“ The light bulb went on; there's an intersection, I believe, between distributed ledgers and delivering trusted data.”
“How can you take the trust that you have in the data center when you deliver data, and how can you stretch that from the far edge, to a gateway, to an edge server, to the core, to the cloud?”
Timestamps:
(01:35) How Steve got started in tech and his career journey
(08:16) The intersection between distributed ledgers and delivering trusted data
(11:04) How can you take the trust you have in the data center and stretch it to the edge?
(14:11) The power of open sourcing Project Alvarium, a community building Data Confidence Fabric
(22:11) How did Steve predict this need years ago?
(29:43) What does Steve see coming next?
(34:35) What is the Hedera network?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Steve Todd on LinkedIn
Bumpy Landing: Distributed Ledgers In A Centralized World
Building Data Confidence at the Edge
Are we in the age of bespoke models? How long will that last? In this conversation, Bill sits down with Jaxon Repp, Field CTO at HarperDB, a globally-distributed edge application platform. They discuss solutions to managing distributed data, customized AI models and bringing the east of cloud to the edge.
Key Quotes:“I think that we are in the age of bespoke models now. But I think like all things, unless you're flying a remote drone armed with missiles, you probably will be able to make do with a model that just handles the basics.”
“There's a lot of upside to still having the horsepower to do the cool things and not necessarily pushing out all the way to the edge.”
“If I can train on a set of averages, some sort of compressed nature, I can dramatically reduce the amount of data that I have. If I can train on summaries as well as I can train on the raw data, then I'm not going to hold on to that raw data for anything other than, you know, super emergency cases.”
Timestamps:
(01:17) How Jaxon got started in tech and to HarperDB
(07:25) Determining product market fit
(13:18) How do we bring the ease of cloud to the edge?
(18:37) Solutions to distributed data
(25:50) The future importance of bespoke models
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Jaxon Repp on LinkedIn
How will generative AI impact the factory floor? In this conversation, Bill sits down with Jason Nassar, who is responsible for Dell Technologies’ global strategy for manufacturing edge products and solutions as a Senior Consultant Product Manager. The two dive into the future of generative AI on the factory floor, musing about the role of robots and small language models.
Key Quotes:“I think as the technology improves itself and it's going to happen faster than we think, there will likely be robots and even humanoid robots that are going to be performing tasks that in the past people performed.”
“At the end of the day, these LLMs or large learning models, they're best put in the cloud right now, large data centers actually processing this. But this is quickly going to move directly to the edge. And that means that this technology is going to be utilized on the factory floor.”
Timestamps:
(02:00) How did Jason get started in tech?
(02:40) IT and OT in manufacturing
(06:45) Evolution of customer needs in manufacturing
(20:54) What is possible with traditional AI?
(14:54) The potential of generative AI in manufacturing
(19:00) Hallucinations and human error
(20:50) The future of work and education
(33:32) Robots on the factory floor
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Jason Nassar on LinkedIn
Read Jason’s latest blog on CIO
Learn more about https://edgeresources.dell.com/?industry=manufacturing
What is a mirrored consumer and how can digital twins be used in retail? In this conversation, Bill speaks with Deepak Chaudhary, Lead for Intelligent Edge Solutions at Accenture, where he is focused on driving digital transformation, modernization, and platform development, particularly emphasizing intelligent edge computing, data analytics, and artificial intelligence at the edge. Deepak and Bill dive into mirrored consumers, digital twins in the retail space that mimic consumer behavior. They also discuss the complexities of digital transformation and some of the challenges being tackled with edge technologies in retail.
Key Quotes:"Mirrored consumers are the digital representation of our customer's profile persona. And that profile is being derived from first- or third-party data points. Maybe it can be variables, it can be sensors, it can be history, haptic technologies we are using. And by understanding the consumer through a mirrored consumer, we can understand what will be the next step of the consumer journey in daily life?"
Timestamps:
01:15 How Deepak got started in tech
05:18 Why do customers turn to Accenture?
09:43 How have customer needs evolved in recent years?
12:02 What is a mirrored consumer?
14:34 How is technology changing the consumer landscape?
19:23 Creating digital twins
23:12 Digital twin examples
30:00 Hyper-personalization in retail and dynamic pricing
33:50 Generative AI at the edge and small language models
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Deepak Chaudhary on LinkedIn
How can we create a “digital nervous system” and how will this change the edge? In this conversation, Bill speaks with David Sprinzen, the VP of Marketing at Vantiq, an application development platform for real-time edge-native applications. David and Bill discuss how modern technology can pull inspiration from the human nervous system, and dive into the future of generative AI at the edge. They also talk about data privacy, hallucinations, and small language models.
Key Quotes:“In the new world what we're looking at with technology is effectively creating a digital nervous system. That means, how do you take data in from sensory inputs from cameras, from sensors, from IOT devices, from humans, and how do you make sense of it? How do you react to it? How do you store it?”
“Data is not value in and of itself, data is a mechanism by which you derive value.”
Timestamps:
(01:20) How David got started in tech
(07:37) What drives people to the edge?
(12:08) What does edge native mean to David
(20:30) What does naturally distributed mean?
(22:11) How Vantiq thinks about “low code”
(28:33) Data management needs more attention
(30:40) The role of generative AI
(33:42) The future of small language models at the edge
(36:08) AI at the edge in healthcare
(40:08) Digital twin city project
(42:26) How does Vantiq identify the best projects?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with David Sprinzen on LinkedIn
This episode features an interview between Bill Pfeifer and Arnaud Langer, Global Managing Partner Edge and IoT at Atos. At Atos, Arnaud is focused on helping customers navigate their legacy-to-edge or cloud-to-edge transformations, leveraging the power of 5G, Edge, and IoT technologies.
They dive into Arnaud’s work in the energy industry and the complexities of digital transformations in that space. They also discuss sustainability, optimization, and forward looking edge trends.
Key Quotes:“When you think about the inertia of a power plant, think about a gas or oil based power plant, you've got about a 24-hour inertia on it. So, that means that you need to plan ahead 24 hours how much power will be consumed. A nuclear power plant is about a week and solar is about 10 seconds. If you've got a cloud your solar array shuts down. So we're definitely looking at a different type of management for the grid.”
Timestamps:
01:15 How Arnaud got started in tech
05:53 The complexity of the tech stack needed to solve business problems
09:22 The intricacies of edge and IoT in the energy industry
13:26 Coordinating energy consumption and use
17:02 Modernizing old tech
19:36 The OT mindset in the energy industry and refresh cycles
26:02 The surprising cost of sensors
30:13 Forward looking edge and IoT trends
36:12 Advice for companies on edges strategies
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Arnaud Langer on LinkedIn
Learn more about Atos and Dell Technologies collaboration on the NativeEdge platform to unlock new business value across edge environments (Case Study / Video)
Learn more about Atos
Why are vector databases important at the edge? In this episode, Bill sits down with Dr. Vivien Dollinger, CEO at ObjectBox, to discuss the growing significance of vector databases in the AI tech stack and how this will impact the future of edge computing. They dive into the future of edge AI data management and why more data isn’t yet stored at the edge.
Key Quotes:“Vector databases are an essential piece of the AI tech stack and will become even more so.”
“We will see more infrastructure software for edge computing coming up to empower the market to really make the edge as easy as the cloud.”
“I believe there will be more data staying in the edges, residing in edges, than on the cloud. But this is going to take time.”
“This whole terminology around edge computing and edge is not doing edge computing a favor.”
Timestamps:
(06:54) What are vector databases? (excel ata similarity search)
(11:30) What makes it an edge vector database?
(16:43) Data sync and future of data management at the edge
(20:05) What are people doing with the data
(24:30) connections between edge computing and sustainability
(28:30) The future of edge AI data management
(36:00) What’s exciting about edge over the next couple of years?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Dr. Vivien Dollinger on LinkedIn
Where do multi-cloud and edge intersect? What is the dividing line between them? In this episode, Bill sits down with Jeff DeVerter, Chief Technology Evangelist at Rackspace Technology, to dive into relationships between edge, multi-cloud, managed hosting, and colos. They discuss the never-ending decisions that have to be made regarding where to host data.
Key Quotes:“I don't like thinking about things from the angle of how can I save money? What I do like on the fin-up side, is how do I ensure that every dollar, every peso, every euro I'm going to spend on technology is going to drive meaningful business outcomes?”
“What excites me about the future of edge computing? First of all, because it is a first class citizen today and not a buzzword. That one gets me excited, that it is a core component of most enterprise architectures these days and a first-class citizen there.”
Timestamps:
(01:00) How Jeff got started in tech
(06:43) The lin between edge, cloud, and colos
(12:43) IT has to understand the business side
(14:51) Views on multi-cloud
(26:36) Managed hosting at Rackspace
(28:12) Navigating egress fees
(32:08) Is moving to the cloud the riskiest thing a company will do?
(38:08) Do customers care about edge as a term?
(41:20) What excites Jeff about the future of the edge?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Jeff DeVerter on LinkedIn
How will edge technologies and AI shape the future of our cities? In this episode, Bill sits down with John Lockhart, Lead Sustainability Technologist, Global Digital Cities at Dell, to discuss all things digital cities. They dive into how city leaders can approach digital transformation and tackle the problems in their cities, and discuss digital twins and the impact of AI.
Key Quotes:“What's happening at the edge from an IOT perspective, as well as what's happening in the data center, they're able to really drive insights from the value they're gaining at the edge. And then that in turn delivers on the outcomes that leaders are providing their, whether it's constituents from a city perspective or whether it's shareholders from an enterprise perspective."
“Cities have really been dealing with a lot of different technology challenges as they come across a problem over the past 30, 40 years, they'll apply a solution that solves a particular problem. But that's really like putting a band-aid, rather than trying to find the root cause and see how they can drive different results.”
Show Timestamps:(01:05) How John got started in tech
(03:26) Applied IOT in digital cities
(05:46) What makes a smart city smart?
(08:56) Where can city leaders begin?
(10:23) What obstacles do city leaders face?
(13:53) John’s work at the live lab incubator
(16:48) How do cities decide what problems to tackle?
(20:45) Greenfield versus brownfield
(26:31) Digital twins in cities
(29:57) Understanding ROI in digital cities
(38:42) How will AI change our cities?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with John Lockhart on LinkedIn
Artificial Intelligence and Gen AI in Smart Cities, white paper by John Lockhart
What is the future of edge computing in the space age? In this episode, Bill sits down with Elizebeth Varghese, Partner / Principal, Space Economy Acceleration Leader at Deloitte to discuss her work on bitcoin and the spacefaring economy, and how it relates to the future of edge computing. They dive into space as the ultimate edge computing use case and how space technologies will change society.
Key Quotes:
“In combining that aspect of edge computing and the blockchain aspect, you can manage digital identities. Individuals can have control and self sovereign control over their individual identities because they can control what's shared, they can control how it's shared, and that's not something that they need to rely on a third party.”
“Lots of IT folk are going to have to understand the non-terrestrial aspect of data management... I think IT leaders and technologists are going to have to understand this intersection with data that gets piped from somewhere else.”
“I'd expect edge computing to decentralize space data marketplace where users could buy and sell data directly from satellites.”
Show Timestamps:(01:15) Elizabeth’s work and background
(05:56) The human side of blockchain
(16:56) What is the space economy?
(20:16) Primary non-terrestrial use cases
(23:30) Managing space-based data
(28:59) What comes next?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Elizebeth Varghese on LinkedIn
What is the future of IT and how does it affect careers at the edge? In this episode, Bill sits down with Brad Maltz, Senior Director of the DevOps Portfolio and DevRel at Dell Technologies to discuss DevRel, EdgeOps and how IT can adapt to the momentum of edge technologies. They explore how people in IT should navigate their careers at this technology juncture, and whether the terms edge, cloud and data center will remain relevant.
Key Quotes:
“Do you truly need to designate that physical destination as an edge versus cloud versus data center? I don't think you do.”
“The DevOps movement is well positioned to help the edge going forward.”
“DevOps to me is an operating model. It's all about IT technology-oriented folks needing to become more agile to partner and satisfy their end users.”
Show Timestamps:(01:10) How Brad got started in tech
(02:47) What is DevRel and why is it important?
(06:28) How should IT adapt to growth at the edge?
(09:39) Who is IT at this point?
(12:24) How can IT prepare and stay relevant?
(24:56) If Brad were starting in tech now, what would he focus on?
(28:50) The role of platform engineering
(31:15) Will the terms data center, cloud and edge matter in the future?
(37:43) What is Brad looking forward to in Devrel and IT?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Brad Maltz on LinkedIn
Check out Brad’s DevOps Thought Leadership vlog and Webinar
Once a boutique operation, New Belgium Brewing is now producing millions of barrels of beer. In this episode, Bill sits down with Adam Little, who has been with the company for nearly nine years and currently serves as Senior Manager, Enterprise Security and Compliance. They dive into how New Belgium has used edge technologies to scale their production to meet increasing demand and to improve their distribution processes.
Key Quotes:“As we've grown over the years, we said look, the only way we can do this is looking at the data and really using our power of IT to drive that business forward. How can we save time in the brewing process? How can we get a couple more cans off the line? How can we get a couple more cases out the door? Are we brewing the right things at the right time so that we're prepared for demand?”
“One thing's for sure, if you never collect the data you can't make the right decision with it.”
Show Timestamps:(02:05) How technology supports beer production
(06:15) Scaling production through automation
(07:03) What data do they collect, and how do they collect it?
(13:03) Using data to support distribution
(19:03) Increasing canning speed and capacity
(23:47) The process of automating
(26:37) Processing data and determining what to keep
(30:37) Identifying the business problem
(37:23) What is next for New Belgium?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Adam Little on LinkedIn
Learn more about what New Belgium Brewing is doing at the edge: Video, Case Study
Visual AI at the edge is becoming increasingly ubiquitous, even reaching some traditionally lower tech sectors like gas station convenience stores. In this conversation, Bill sits down with Sridhar Sudarsan, the CTO at SparkCognition, to discuss their visual AI products and how they have been deployed at scale throughout gas stations and how they are using visual AI to enhance school safety. They dive into ethical considerations of visual AI at the edge and how SparkCognition thinks about operations in addition to model training.
Key Quotes:“These AI systems are really a tool that helps the human, who then helps the AI systems, who then helps the human. And we're constantly pushing the barrier to raise the bar.”
“From an industry perspective, Murphy's Law continues to apply and I think we continue to find hardware getting less and less expensive, more processing happening at lower costs.”
Show Timestamps:(01:18) How did Sridhar get started in technology?
(02:16) Sridhar’s time at IBM
(10:45) Visual AI use cases at gas stations
(18:13) Using existing camera infrastructure
(20:43) Developing an economic model to deploy edge AI
(25:11) ROI calculator
(29:02) Privacy and visual AI in schools
(34:32) Training ethical AI
(40:46) Sridhar’s favorite deployments
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
Links:Follow Bill on LinkedIn
Connect with Sridhar Sudarsan on LinkedIn
How is AI being used at the edge, and what possibilities does this create for businesses? In this episode, host Bill Pfeifer sits down with the co-authors of the book AI at the Edge, Jenny Plunkett, Senior Developer Relations Engineer and Daniel Situnayake, Head of ML at Edge Impulse. They discuss how to determine which problems can actually be addressed through AI at the edge, how to think about effective AI, and unexpected use cases in generative AI and synthetic data generation. Plus, they cover how AI can support data distillation efforts and how to build teams that can successfully navigate this landscape.
Key Quotes:“We're going to be using generative AI to help us build a synthetic data set to train other AI models to deploy to edge devices.” - Jenny
“One of the things that's really cool about synthetic data and using generative AI for that, is it potentially reduces the cost of training a model because instead of having to spend huge amounts of money labeling all this data, if you create the data yourself, you can have it implicitly be labeled.” - Dan
Show Timestamps:(01:49) How did they get started in tech?
(03:14) What brought them to AI?
(08:12) What brought them together to write their book?
(13:26) Determining which problems can be addressed with AI at the edge
(15:51) What possibilities does AI at the edge create for businesses?
(20:41) Synthetic data and generative AI
(24:15) Using AI for data distillation
(31:00) Building a skilled and interdisciplinary team
(39:30) AI’s transition from a career path to a tool
(43:06) Effective AI
(46:46) Edge / wildlife conservation case study
(49:37) What are they excited about moving forward?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
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Connect with Daniel Situnayake on LinkedIn and Twitter
Daniel’s substack
What can IT learn from OT and vice versa? How are these two groups collaborating and where is it difficult for them to see eye-to-eye? In this episode, Bill sits down with Jeroen Mackenbach, Engineering Technologist for the Edge Portfolio at Dell Technologies, who has extensive experience on both the IT and OT side, and who has been writing and speaking about the ways the two groups can relate to one another to work together. They dive into the various perspectives each group brings and how this will influence the edge.
Key Quotes:
“What I see is that OT and IT, they aren't getting along because there's a lot of very different areas that they're interested in. It's a tough equation.”
“OT is doing a lot of innovation to make sure that they can actually utilize all of those resources in a deterministic way. And we now need IT to actually adopt it to make sure that we have the capabilities to actually run these virtualized workloads.
“It's a lot of interaction between the OT and the IT world, which is happening. And that allows us to also do a lot of innovation, together with these partners which is a good thing because we're making a lot of progress there.”
Show Timestamps:(01:20) How Jeroen got started in technology
(02:37) Why did he move into IT?
(04:55) IT versus OT
(06:20) How can we remove friction between IT and OT?
(10:41) Tech cycles in IT, OT and at the edge
(13:03) Why Jeroen wrote a blog about IT and OT
(15:55) Is automation at the edge bringing IT and OT closer together?
(19:12) Operating at an IT scale with OT level security
(21:40) SCADA networks and security
(28:07) Collaboration between both ways of thinking
(34:13) What IT and OT learn from each other
(40:00) What is Jeroen focused on next?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
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Hear more from Jeroen:
- Dell NativeEdge: Securing your edge environments with zero trust technology
- How to Protect Your Edge Estate and How NativeEdge Can Deploy It
- Dell NativeEdge Speeds Edge Deployments with FIDO Device Onboard (FDO)
How has computer vision evolved and what is its potential at the edge? In this conversation, Host Bill Pfeifer sits down with Wayne Arvidson, Global Director, Market Development & Strategy at Dell Technologies, to discuss in depth. They dive into five key themes in computer vision use cases, discussing personnel and facility safety, operational efficiency, personal experience, sustainability and revenue enhancement. They also consider whether we will have data marts down the road, and the role of generative AI.
Key Quotes:“The thing that people are looking for from computer vision, they're looking for real time situational awareness. Whether that's from a safety perspective, whether it's from an operations perspective, doesn't matter. And the only way to do that is it's got to sit at the edge. I've got to be ingesting it, processing it, managing it there at the edge. I've got to be where that physical world meets the digital world.”
“There's a lot of information in there that's untapped. As we see the power of edge compute increase, as we see this federated approach to how we work with these edge-based solutions, we're going to start seeing a lot more integration of that information together.”
Show Timestamps:(01:10) How Wayne got started in technology
(04:51) Wayne’s experience through three technology inflections
(13:49) Wayne’s move into computer vision
(16:17) Defining computer vision
(18:00) Computer vision and the edge
(20:18) Five key themes in computer vision use cases
(20:30) Personnel and facility safety use cases
(22:55) Personal experience use cases
(24:13) Operational efficiency use cases
(26:20) Sustainability use cases
(27:32) Revenue enhancement use cases
(30:14) Making computer vision enhancing, instead of an invasion of privacy
(35:10) Value in data that we may not have thought of yet
(38:36) Will we have a data mart?
(42:40) Generative AI and the edge
(45:23) The next five years
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Credits:Over the Edge is hosted by Bill Pfeifer, and was created by Matt Trifiro and Ian Faison. Executive producers are Matt Trifiro, Ian Faison, Jon Libbey and Kyle Rusca. The show producer is Erin Stenhouse. The audio engineer is Brian Thomas. Additional production support from Elisabeth Plutko and Eric Platenyk.
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Learn more from Wayne:
Seeing The Bigger Picture: Transforming Data Insights into Increased Profitability and Growth - Vlog
Beyond the Platform: An Outcome Driven Computer Vision Strategy - Webinar
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Bill Pfeifer and Dan Cummins, Dell Technologies Fellow / VP of Edge Computing. The two sit down to discuss the challenges and constraints at the edge, and the associated obstacles to building edge solutions. Dan dives into NativeEdge, a new edge operations software platform that centralizes deployment and management of edge infrastructure, sharing the thought process behind its creation.
Key Quotes:“Solving for the edge is really solving for distributed computing. And then you need to understand the constraints on each of those locations based on the vertical that you're in.”
“The thing that most excites me is the ability to federate your processing at these edge locations, right? I mean, the only way the world is going to scale is by federating this processing where the data is being generated.”
Show Timestamps:(01:10) How Dan got started in technology
(03:19) Dan’s journey to Dell
(05:54) What prompted Dan’s move into edge technologies
(08:24) The evolution of the edge and the need for a horizontal platform
(17:53) Cloud-out versus edge-in
(21:18) The process of building NativeEdge
(25:58) The connection between edge and multicloud
(27:52) Challenges with orchestrating across the edge
(33:29) Challenges the edge still needs to evolve to address
(36:17) Silicon diversity and hardware at the edge/core
(39:10) Possibilities that Dan is excited about at the edge
(42:05) Edge’s impact on business and society
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting dell.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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You can learn more about NativeEdge through these resources: NativeEdge website, NativeEdge Vlog and NativeEdge
webinar
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Bill Pfeifer and Jeff Necciai, CTO of Duos Technologies. Bill and Jeff dive into how Duos’s railcar inspection portals collect and process data at the edge, then use AI to quickly detect defects. They discuss how this reduces dwell times when trains are sitting for repair and increases the safety of railway workers. They also cover the other transportation industries that Duos has their eyes on and the challenges they continue to work on in the railway industry.
Key Quotes:
“Our cornerstone product is the Railcar Inspection Portal, where we take 360 degree views of trains at track speed. And we provide the ability to do a remote visual inspection on those, a very detailed remote visual inspection, and we also provide AI around that to automatically detect defects and anomalies on those rail cars.”
“When we're acquiring data from a train that's moving 125 miles an hour, we're capturing over 80 gigabytes of data per second.”
Show Timestamps:(01:15) Jeff’s journey and how he got to Duos Technologies
(03:39) Overview of Duos Technologies
(05:19) Collecting rail data at the edge
(07:21) What do they use the data for?
(08:46) How were railcars inspected before Duos’s technology?
(12:39) Benefits of remote inspection for the workers
(15:10) Can improving the rail industry reduce carbon footprint?
(17:57) Processing data at the edge railside
(20:23) What data is most valuable?
(22:23) AI and using human-in-the-loop
(25:13) Environmental challenges on the railways
(29:05) Applying this technology to cars and planes
(33:11) The excitement of the railcar engineers
(36:11) The speed challenge
(38:39) New tech that Jeff is excited about
(41:26) Sharing rail safety data with the industry
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/edge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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Duos Technologies Delivers Near Real-Time Defect Identification Automation
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Bill Pfeifer and Dr. Ayotunde Coker, the CEO of Open Access Data Centres. Dr. Coker joined the company in June 2022 and has moved rapidly, deploying over 35 data centers across South Africa and Nigeria to address the data center deficit in Africa, accelerating the continent’s digital transformation. In this conversation, Dr. Coker discusses edge as a continuum, the opportunities in Africa and the impact of AI.
Key Quotes:“What's the edge? The edge is a continuum.”
“The core essence of what we do is bringing together this core, open, converged digital infrastructure together that actually is changing the narrative in Africa. It's bringing digital infrastructure penetration into the continent and transforming economies in the continent.”
Show Timestamps:(01:20) How did Dr. Coker get started in technology?
(02:40) What brought Dr. Coker to Open Access Data Centres
(07:22) OADC’s edge data centers
(13:27) The edge as a continuum
(16:23) How OADC is investing in infrastructure in Africa
(19:48) The large market in Africa of the “young, content-rich demographic”
(21:17) What are OADC's customers doing at the edge?
(28:14) Overcoming lack of power
(32:06) How OADC thinks about sustainability
(37:42) How is AI impacting their work?
(46:28) What comes next for OADC?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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In this episode of Over the Edge, Matt Trifiro sits down with Bill Pfeifer, Edge Portfolio and Thought Leadership Director at Dell Technologies, to go over a special announcement. The two dive into the creation and history of the Over the Edge podcast, as well as the future of the show. Matt shares what he has learned so far on the show and some of his favorite episodes.
Key Quotes:“This is a huge technology swing, right? This is like cloud was 15 years ago, but we're still at the very opening acts of edge computing and what it's going to do to the world, the impact it's going to have.” - Bill Pfeifer
“It's fascinating the different points of view that you come across and the different perspectives. I know what my perspectives on edge are and they're changing all the time but it's a single perspective and everybody else has radically different perspectives on this.” - Bill Pfeifer
“One of my favorite definitions of the edge, and I agree there are lots of them, is where the digital world meets the physical world, and I think there's some truth to that.” - Matt Trifiro
“My current fascination is artificial intelligence. And again, I'm coming at it from a perspective of sort of a naive user, right? It's like the tricorder. I see a future where every object in our lives, even the most mundane objects like coffee cups and sports coats might be connected to the internet or a network and might have either AI on board or be able to tap into AI that's delivered through a network.” - Matt Trifiro
Show Timestamps:(00:00) Announcement from Matt
(00:47) Introduction to Bill Pfeifer
(02:01) The different perspectives on edge
(11:43) Matt’s reasons for starting the show
(13:41) Edge topics that Bill is interested in
(22:15) Matt’s takeaways from the show up to this point
(26:05) Some of Matt’s favorite episodes
(32:43) What is Matt interested in moving forward?
(34:23) Edge questions that Matt still hasn’t gotten answers to
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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Referenced Past Episodes:
Three Decades of Vision for Edge with Mahadev Satyanarayanan (Satya) of Carnegie Mellon University
Stateful Computing, Continuous Intelligence, and Edge AI with Simon Crosby, CTO of SWIM.AI
The Genesis of Edge Computing with Victor Bahl, Technical Fellow at Microsoft Research
Solving the Fundamental Problems of the Cloud with Chetan Venkatesh, CEO & Co-founder of Macrometa
The Future of Edge is Messier Than You Think with Dean Bubley, Founder of Disruptive Analysis
Bringing American Manufacturing into the Fifth Industrial Revolution with Walker Reynolds, President and Solutions Architect of 4.0 Solutions
How Standards Drive Adoption and Enable the Intelligent Edge with Alex Reznik, Distinguished Technologist at HPE and Chair of ETSI MEC
Brewing Beer at the Edge with Matthew Steinberg, Co-Founder of Exhibit 'A' Brewing, and Pierluca Chiodelli,Vice President Engineering Technology & Edge Portfolio Product Management and Customer Operations, Dell Technologies
Dell and Exhibit 'A', Continued with Matthew Steinberg, Co-Founder of Exhibit ‘A’ brewing, and Pierluca Chiodelli,Vice President Engineering Technology & Edge Portfolio Product Management and Customer Operations, Dell Technologies
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mike Conlow, Director of Network Strategy at Cloudflare. Mike started his career in political technology and was the deputy CTO for Obama for America, later joining Cloudflare in 2021. Matt and Mike discuss the future of the internet, closing the digital divide, and the work that Mike is doing at Cloudlflare to build a faster, more resilient internet. They also get into why there is a lack of wired broadband competition and network security solutions.
Key Quotes:“Once you have a very complete edge network globally, all of a sudden running that logic about what is attack traffic and what is not, we can deliver that in a very performant way from our edge network. And we don't need to have a whole bunch of very expensive, very, very fancy on-premise boxes doing that work. We can do it with computing power on our edge.”
“We should make part of the story about 5G and about edge computing just the whole internet is going to get a lot faster to the point where it should feel mostly instantaneous.”
“12 million people in the United States don't have access to adequate internet, meaning that they don't have a wire outside of their house or a wireless way to connect to really good internet.”
Show Timestamps:(02:00) How Mike got started in tech
(04:13) Mike’s current role at Cloudflare
(05:04) The range of services at Cloudflare
(07:36) Defining SASE
(08:35) The Cloudflare network
(16:12) How Mike thinks about edge
(25:00) The future of faster internet
(30:00) The digital divide
(34:00) Why is there a lack of wired broadband competition?
(39:00) What should we do to improve the internet?
(44:43) Magic Transit and denial of service protection
(47:41) What Mike is excited about in the future
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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Connect with Mike on Twitter
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Keith Basil, GM, Edge Business Unit at SUSE. Keith is an expert in cloud compliance, Kubernetes, OpenStac, cloud, edge, and decentralized architectures, among other specialities. In this conversation, he and Matt discuss K3s, the tiny edge, and the impact that SUSE hopes to have at the edge. They dive into real world examples of how the edge is being used in retail and discuss other use cases that are driving demand for SUSE’s technologies.
Key Quotes:
“And then within that far edge location, we have what we call the tiny edge. And this is basically the industrial IOT space, right? Or the fourth industrial revolution is happening at the tiny edge space.”
“We expect Kubernetes to be everywhere. We expect it to be fully commoditized.”
“The industrial IoT space, we think, is gonna represent the most significant amount of growth for the edge ecosystem in total.”
“In reality, distance doesn't really matter to us. I know some early people defined edge by latency, which I thought was a total fallacy.”
Show Timestamps:(02:10) How Basil got into technology
(03:11) How Basil moved into the industry
(04:37) Basil’s path into SUSE
(06:35) What is K3s?
(07:25) How does K3s and other tech from SUSE help at the edge?
(09:19) How do Basil and SUSE think about the edge?
(09:43) The tiny edge
(10:14) Near edge and far edge
(11:47) The difference between on-premises and edge
(12:56) Real world retail example
(13:28) Applications running at the edge at a retail store
(14:58) Other use cases driving demand
(16:16) How are their customers navigating data center trends?
(19:55) Where does Basil see SUSE going?
(34:32) SUSE’s view towards open source
(39:17) Akri project
(45:13) What would Basil like to change to accelerate progress at the edge?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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Connect with Basil on LinkedIn
www.CaspianStudios.com
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Leonard Lee, Executive Analyst and Founder of neXt Curve, a global research advisory firm focused on emerging technology research. Leonard discusses how converging technologies are creating new opportunities at the edge and the interesting trends he is observing. This conversation spans across edge versus on-premises, failed digital transformations, edge tech in retail, digital twins and more.
Key Quotes:“As these cloud native technologies come closer or start to infiltrate the vast expense that is the edge, it's challenging everyone's assumption because you take the hyperscaler mindset, you try to apply it to the edge, it does not work. The edge is totally a different beast. And we're seeing that realization in the industry start to play out.”
“The interesting stuff happening at the edge for retail is localizing the personalization, being able to close the loop on customer interactions. Now it sounds easy, but it’s not.”
“So if you look at something like edge computing, the reason why it's exciting is because we're looking at a lot of the things that are happening on endpoint devices and how they're becoming more capable intersecting with cloud technologies, and it's creating a whole new realm of possibilities across what we call quote unquote, the edge.”
“When we talk about edge computing and edge, what we're not talking about is the paradigm that has dominated our thinking for the last 15 years, which is you have a client at the edge and it's talking to a, and communicating and relying on, a central hyperscale data center.”
“Modernization is a huge opportunity because if you can't modernize and you don't modernize, you can't really pull through a lot of these aspirational applications and visions that we have for these technologies.”
Show Timestamps:(02:19) How did Leonard get his start in technology?
(4:13) Leonard’s work as an analyst
(5:22) What is Leonard looking at within edge technology?
(8:54) The difference between edge and on-premises
(15:13) What Leonard tells his clients to pay attention to
(18:42) Cloud native technologies at the edge
(20:47) Digital transformation and modernization at the edge
(23:20) Can companies wait to modernize?
(25:59) Example of a failed digital transformation effort
(29:54) Opportunities with edge in retail
(36:38) How will the digital twin evolve?
(39:35) Looking to the future, what is Leonard excited about?
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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www.CaspianStudios.com
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jay Limbasiya, Global AI & Data Science business Development Lead at Dell Technologies. With a background in the United States Intelligence Community, Jay specializes in AI, data science, analytics, and data management.
Matt and Jay discuss why we should care about the edge, the complexities of deciding where to treat data and the last mile problem. They also talk about the benefits of data lakehouses and the current debate around the dangers of AI.
Key Quotes:“You can use this data maybe ten years down the road for something else, right? You can use it for a completely different type of use case you never even thought of. And that's why the data is so valuable. It's not so much the algorithm itself, it's can you capture this data and even save this data for maybe technology that hasn't even come out yet?”
“It definitely doesn't make sense to me to completely say, Hey, the data's too large at the edge, so we're just not gonna consume it… that obviously doesn't make sense. I think there's a efficiency play out here as well. And that efficiency play is, obviously it costs money to store data, so let's make sure we store the right data.”
“What's the value of the data that you're collecting and how can these pieces of data enhance the algorithm at the edge? Because even though you deploy something on the edge in order to refine it for future trends, maybe four years down the road, or three years down the road, you still need data to be able to kind of do that R and D work.”
“The core is actually where you identify, is there data I'm missing? Is there something I haven't even collected?”
Show Timestamps:(02:30) Jay’s start in technology
(07:01) Working in U.S. intelligence
(09:00) Why we should care about edge?
(13:26) How to make decisions about managing and treating data
(18:45) The Last Mile Problem
(26:00) Data cleansing
(29:00) Data analysis at the edge
(30:00) Training the models and pushing them towards the edge
(35:14) Data lakehouses
(44:42) Jay’s thoughts on the dangers of AI
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Links:Follow Matt Trifiro on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
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Connect with Jay Limbasiya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaylimbasiya/
www.CaspianStudios.com
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Keith Bradley, Vice President Information Technology at Nature Fresh Farms.
Keith is leveraging Edge technology in Nature Fresh Farm’s automated greenhouses. In these highly controlled environments, Keith’s team is able to monitor plant weight, growth, irrigation, nutrient absorption, and more. This allows them to automate systems that get plants what they need, exactly when they need it, to help increase their yield. In this conversation, Keith explains how this makes them resilient to changes in weather and climate, and outlines the many metrics they monitor during the planting and growing process. Keith also provides predictions on the increased focus on technology in agriculture, taking into account climate change, as well as land, water and food scarcity.
Key Quotes:“It's the exact opposite of farming how you usually think of it, where you've always got the farmers waiting on rain and hoping for more rain, or hoping for less rain. We basically control our environment top to bottom.”
“We have to control everything, from how much nutrient the plant gets, how much light it gets, how much CO2 it gets, the biocontainment of it. We control and monitor every aspect of that plant's life.”
“That's always been my goal is to eventually get to the point where now a grower isn't proactively doing something to the greenhouse, the AI is proactively telling them, this is what you should do.”
“I find the more that we can do analyzing data at the edge, the better we get. It is when we're waiting for information to get from the edge to the core, to the cloud, and you're waiting for it to get up there to analyze it, that we missed that opportunity.”
“We don't get affected by weather change. The average weather goes up by a couple degrees, it doesn't affect us the same way as it does a field farmer. Drought doesn't affect us the same way. All those things just don't affect us. In about three or four more years, I can see it starting to get more of a highlight, and more of a ‘we need this and we need to focus on this.’”
Show Timestamps:(02:30) Keith’s start in technology
(03:41) Inside Nature Fresh Farm’s greenhouses
(07:19) Technology around the plants
(08:14) Automatic functions in the greenhouses
(10:30) Data they collect and where it goes
(12:59) Amount of data they collect
(14:00) Using data to improve business
(16:25) Measuring taste factors
(18:00) Empowering the growers to use data
(20:36) Digital transformation in agriculture
(21:47) Experiments in the greenhouses
(23:11) Tracking products after they leave the farm
(26:00) The edge and product consistency
(28:41) Creating a unique taste as a competitive advantage
(30:48) IT and grower collaboration
(32:00) Keith’s approach to edge and the cloud
(37:00) Keith’s technology wishlist
(40:00) Where Keith wants to see innovation in greenhouses
(42:00) How far are we from a fully automated greenhouse?
(43:54) Emerging importance of tech in agriculture
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Links:To learn more about how Nature Fresh Farm’s is leveraging Edge technology, please visit:
Nature Fresh Farms / Dell Case Study: https://www.dell.com/en-us/dt/case-studies-customer-stories/index.htm#sort=%40desfirstpublishdate%20descending&numberOfResults=15&pdf-overlay=%2F%2Fwww.delltechnologies.com%2Fasset%2Fen-us%2Fsolutions%2Fbusiness-solutions%2Fcustomer-stories-case-studies%2Fnature-fresh-farms-cultivates-the-future-of-agriculture-at-the-edge.pdf
Nature Fresh Farms / Dell Customer Stories Video: https://www.dell.com/en-us/dt/case-studies-customer-stories/index.htm#sort=%40desfirstpublishdate%20descending&numberOfResults=15&video-overlay=6311527828112
Follow Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
Connect with Keith on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keith-bradley-76105049/
www.CaspianStudios.com
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Walker Reynolds, President and Solutions Architect of 4.0 Solutions. Walker’s mission is to save and create middle-class jobs by helping manufacturers become more efficient through successful digital transformation efforts.
Walker dives into the fourth and fifth industrial revolutions, and how he approaches digital transformation within an industry where many companies have fallen behind. He explains how 4.0 Solutions evaluates digital capabilities within their clients’ companies and what factors indicate that a company is capable of improving. This conversation gives insight into technology applications across the manufacturing plant floor and into the ways that Walker thinks the industry could solve its biggest problems.
Key Quotes:“It is the convergence of artificial and human intelligence. That's what the fifth industrial revolution is. And when we talk about industry 5.0 or the fifth industrial revolution, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about being able to take the best person you have in your organization and put them on the biggest problem, no matter where in the world that biggest problem is.”
“Do the people at the helm of your organization understand what digital transformation actually is?... Well, it's about unlocking potential on the plant floor to start. The smartest people in any manufacturing organization, they are the people who do the actual work on the plant floor.”
“And what I realized was, holy cow, if you could unlock that potential in all these operators, you could solve the manufacturing exodus problem in the United States overnight. If you could suddenly be able to figure out how to tap into the operator's knowledge and enable them to solve the business's problems, you would solve manufacturing in the United States overnight. And that's what digital transformation does.”
“If everyone in your organization can't recite from memory what the digital strategy is, you don't have one because every person in the organization is a node in an ecosystem. If they don't know how they're inter-operating in that ecosystem, well then you don't have a strategy. Or you didn't communicate it.”
Show Timestamps:2:36 Walker’s start in tech
6:45 Understanding industry 4.0 and 5.0
10:10 How advanced are most manufacturers in the U.S.?
11:21 The top digital manufacturer
14:44 How does Walker determine whether an organization can improve?
17:00 Solving the manufacturing exodus problem
20: 35 How Walker gets leadership buy-in?
23:46 Intellic Integration and 4.0 Solutions
33:08 Factory floor examples / Kepware
39:12 Defining HMI, OPC, PLC
41:45 IoT and the Internet in the industrial world
44:40 The two steps of digital transformation
46:30 Example of how data supports consumables
48:30 Factories leveraging cloud
54:00 Digital and human advantages to using data to react in real time
57:22 What is Amazon doing right?
61:04 Data centers as factories
1:02:02 Speeding up the revlitalization of the manufacturing industry
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Paul Howarth, Senior Director of Business Development and Product Commercialization at Rogers Communications. At Rogers, Paul leads a team that designs, builds, launches and sells world leading IoT products that leverage the power of 4G and 5G networks.
In this episode, Paul describes why powerful networks are so important in heavy industries. He elaborates on how autonomous tech can not only increase efficiency, but also safety. Paul and Matt discuss the difference between 4G and 5G, what works best, where it works best, and look forward to what might be coming next.
Key Quotes:“Heavy industries have challenges getting data offsite. You'll see some pretty amazing things. I've seen fiber get built down in some very remote locations. I've seen microwave links being built over hundreds of kilometers because it's worth it. That data is so important to get back.”
“Think of sitting in your gamer chair with a joystick and being able to operate a drill. It's already hitting the mine face, drilling into the rock, and then maybe you switch screens and use the same joystick. But now you're operating a truck in another area. So now you've got someone who's highly skilled, operating multiple pieces of equipment, and doing it away from the danger.”
“With a highly available cellular network, you can actually pull people away from a dangerous work area, one that's not a great place to work. And they can do remote drilling, controlling vehicles, really helping also drive a diverse workforce, right? It's very difficult to get employees to go work in some of these places. And if you can tell a remote operator, you're able to pick up a lot of employees that might not want to live in a camp.”
“I'm really excited about what can happen and how we can bring software to the masses. Like it's incredible. How a lay person can now just say, I have this idea, I'd like it to do this. And these tools can now produce a lot of code.”
“When I think about the future, I've always had a principle that when you see new emerging technologies, brute strength and bandwidth is gonna win. So that's what makes me excited about 5G. It's just a lot of bandwidth they're able to drop on top of it.”
Show Timestamps:(02:15) How Paul got into tech
(03:44) All about Rogers
(04:35) What is heavy industry?
(06:07) Heavy industries and wireless
(08:30) How data drives the industry
(09:00) What is the edge?
(10:59) What mining customers need
(14:58) Autonomy in heavy industry
(18:52) Autonomy and safety
(19:51) Deciding between 4G and 5G
(23:08) How Paul uses Edge
(28:04) The challenge of consolidating servers
(29:39) How fast should we make performance?
(31:51) How to build a network
(36:13) Rogers’ use cases
(39:33) What the future might hold
(41:21) What Paul’s looking forward to
(42:17) What Paul wants to accelerate
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mat Yarger, co-founder of DigitalMRV. At Digital MRV, Mat develops strategy and solutions around the use of data for environmental and energy systems, including smart cities and critical infrastructure.
In this episode, Mat describes how data can help us overcome climate change, what systems need updating, and the future we can work towards together.
Key Quotes“With data, there are just so many different things you can do. It applies to every sector as we're transitioning into digitization and automation. We see the huge uptick of AI right now and everything around that. But data security and trust in data is really paramount to building the right systems moving forward.”
“One area that was the most open to [new tech] because there is a high, high need for transparency right now, is climate. What I'm doing is still very tied to everything I've done in the past: like cybersecurity, protecting the data, compartmentalizing it, enabling trust in the data, those kinds of things. But the space that is the most ready to scale that out is climate and environmental impact.”
“The big problems are how we can take that analog process, and look at the standards that are out there. Let's digitize all those different standards, or pick the ones that have the most impact and progressively digitize them. How do we implement them into the facilities that are getting built or ready to transition and earn these carbon credits or new incentive models?”
“I'm sure you're familiar with the cyberpunk future of how things can go and Blade Runner and all that kind of stuff. But I think if we do this right, we've got this really cool solar punk future where it's super high tech, super futuristic, we've got trees growing on all of our buildings and we're sharing data, and I'm giving you energy from the energy that I'm creating from my solar panels, and it's just a really fluid utopian society like I know that's super optimistic and positive, but I think if we do it right and we get the right people involved and we don't step on the common person and their data, then it's achievable.”
Show Timestamps:02:18 Mat’s journey into tech
05:27 How Mat got into his field
07:46 How tech ties into climate
09:45 The problems Mat’s trying to solve
12:57 What is the carbon market?
13:54 Circular emission tracking
14:52 Why data is useful
18:38 About Project Iota
24:48 About Project Alvarium
29:06 How Mat’s business was formed
35:17 What Mat sees for the future
37:30 The climate we’re striving for
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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This episode of Over the Edge features a continuation of our interview between Matt Trifiro and Matthew Steinberg, Co-Founder of Exhibit ‘A’ brewing, and Pierluca Chiodelli, Vice President Engineering Technology & Edge Portfolio Product Management and Customer Operations, Dell Technologies.
Matthew and Pierluca come together to continue their conversation on Dell Technology’s work with Exhibit ‘A’ brewing. They discuss why the partnership is essential, and what makes it work as well as it does.
Matthew describes how tech influences his brewery. Pierluca explains why Dell Technologies works with small businesses to implement edge technology. Together, they’ve built a successful project where Dell works at new scales, and Exhibit ‘A’ produces high quality beer with higher speed.
Key Quotes:
Matthew:
"We can't just start spending money on technology without having a real ROI. This is just a really amazing opportunity for us to look at a lot of these pain points and challenges that we have as a small business and work with edge technology and Dell to really find the sweet spot to make us the most efficient we can be, creating the best products we can, and adding a value to our business."
Matthew:
"Because we don't fully understand the technology, we rely on Pierluca and his team to share with us what that technology's gonna do for us. I'm not looking for a fit, I'm looking for an add. You know, I want this to improve what we do, not just kind of like status quo. So that's really important for us. And obviously just the straight value that it adds to our small business."
Pierluca:
"Having the connection with Dell that can scale and can breed the technology to all type of people, from a small business, like Exhibit A, to large implementation. And so having an ecosystem, and that ecosystem can run in a platform like we are building, then allow you to bring them to multiple people. Not only to the very large one that they can permit themselves to have an army of people coming there and develop their own solution."
Pierluca:
"That's exactly one of the challenge that we took upon when we decide to go to the edge. And when we decide to go to the edge, not just with the fact that we go in and place the normal compute. It's to understanding, right? And Dell is embarking in this adventure that we start about three years ago with very few people and now we have an entire bu, right, that is looking at this stuff. So what is intriguing is really, that point that, At the edge, you need to understand how you input the things that someone is doing, right? Their core processes, their outcome. Right? It's all about the outcome."
Show Timestamps:02:25 How tech fits into the brewing industry
03:22 Measuring the success of implementing edge
05:13 Dell’s goal with Exhibit A
07:19 How small businesses can deploy edge technology
10:46 The tech learning curve
14:04 Scaling technology for everyone
15:37 Weighing cost vs. ROI
17:30 How Matthew manages his cashflow
20:17 Dell’s shifting business model
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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In this episode of Over the Edge, Matt Trifiro interviews Matthew Steinberg, co-founder of Exhibit 'A' brewing, and Pierluca Chiodelli,Vice President Engineering Technology & Edge Portfolio Product Management and Customer Operations, Dell Technologies
Matthew has been brewing beer for almost 20 years. After brewing a wide variety around Massachusetts, including Belgian styles, highly hopped ales, and barrel aged offerings, he founded his own brewery: Exhibit 'A'. Here, he creates his own modern takes on traditional beer styles.
Pierluca has been with Dell Technologies since 1999, and is currently VP Engineering Technology & Edge Portfolio Product Manager and Customer Operations. He’s responsible for Edge Enterprise Dell Technologies roadmap, and strategic technical partners engagement across Dell Technologies.
Matthew and Pierluca represent a partnership between Dell Technologies and Exhibit 'A' brewing to bring edge computing and complex technology to small, locally-owned businesses.
In the first segment of this interview, Matthew dives into the details of beer making, from start to finish. He describes how edge technology has helped Exhibit 'A' gather data and monitor processes for a more perfect brewing process, and how it can fix problems and save money (and beer) for the brewery. In segment 2, Pierluca gives his definition of the edge, describes the importance of connectivity in a setting like Matthew’s brewery, and explains how Dell Technologies is using this project as an example of their core value of promoting human progress.
Key Quotes:Matthew Steinberg
“The exciting part for me is actually beyond this first project, which is to really dig deep into our pain points as a brewery and what we can do to add to this technology. Not just make better beer, but create better processes, create more consistency, give our staff the tools they need to do these jobs, right? And so it's incredible. Like for a small craft brewery like us, that's like producing you know the equivalent of maybe 70,000 cases a year, to be able to have this technology is ridiculous. I mean, it's kind of a dream.”
Pierluca Chiodelli
“There is no necessity to have all these different silos because with our experience, we can run multiple things on the same infrastructure. We can manage that infrastructure in different way, but what we are doing is basically also simplify the edge. There is no reason why certain application, they cannot run with other applications. So that's the technology we bring, with the security and with the simplification. So basically, it's democratize the edge and make sure that people can manage from one to thousands of devices with always security in mind and with zero touch capability.”
Matthew Steinberg
“We have this art that is like my creative outlet for making, conceptualizing a beer. Whether it's the ingredients or the process or even what the label looks like. There's a lot of that art that goes into its. Science is like the yeast doing its thing, the malt being delivered properly, and it's, and I thought about it as like, the great, the art of the beer relies on the science to do what it's supposed to do. The technology actually allows us to control it. It allows us to, what was the word I used? Uh, you know, The tech helps us realize and observe the connection between the art and the science.”
Matthew Steinberg
“So all of this temperature probes and, and controllers and the interface that Dell has installed here is allowing us to study that to just make better beer. I mean, that's literally the simplest way I can put it. The exciting part for me is actually beyond this first project, which is to really dig deep into our pain points as a brewery and what we can do to add to this technology. Not just make better beer, but create better processes, create more consistency, give our staff the tools they need to do these jobs.”
Pierluca Chiodelli
One of the core value of Dell is really about human progress. It's very humble goal. It's also very difficult to connect you to directly to human progress. Now, when I start to look at the edge, I can say that because it's based on outcome, most of the things that we do are most impactful.
Pierluca Chiodelli
we've been selling at the Edge for many years. Uh, about 30 years. But, um, what is new at the edge is the data. Um, so I think, um, If you look at, so the brewer example, there are a lot of data that they've been collected. What is changing from the past is that everything needs to be connected now. What is changing also that the data they are producing at the edge, they need to be accessed at the edge
Pierluca Chiodelli
You don't have an army of people and so you need to optimize. Optimize is important and have the ability to connect things and access those data immediately is very important. So the shift really why you need more compute, why you need more things at the edge is because the data are there. More data need to be processed there and the edge is different, is outside of the normal data center. So to me, that was the excitement to enter in the space that was not a familiar space, understanding the constraint of that space and understanding what we can do
Show Timestamps:[03:41] Matthew’s entrepreneurial start
[07:41] How beer begins
[09:55] How beer is made
[14:38] The art of balance in beer
[17:26] The fermentation process
[19:56] Why cans are the best package
[23:12] How to store your beer
[23:32] How Matthew maintains quality
[25:31] What does beer have to do with edge computing?
[28:29] How Matthew uses data to solve problems
[33:17] Pierluca’s start in technology
[36:09] Dell and Edge
[40:06] The edge is about constraint
[41:52] The edge and security
[44:29] Helping everyone understand edge
[49:08] Dell’s goal of advancing progress
[53:20] Constraints of the edge
[56:40] How Dell and Exhibit A work together
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
Links:Connect with Matt on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mtrifiro/
Connect with Matthew on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-steinberg-26b96ab/
Connect with Pierluca on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pierluca-chiodelli-3b743a4/
Learn More about Exhibit A - https://www.exhibit-a-brewing.com/
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mike Libecki, National Geographic Explorer, and Bill Pfeifer, Edge Messaging Director at Dell.
Bill has worked in IT for over twenty years. Hel is an expert expert on the latest details of AI, 5G, IoT, and all the other emerging technologies. At Dell EMC, Bill works on research studies, talks to analysts, and helps shape how the company interacts with the market every day.
Mike Libecki was named a 2013 National Geographic Adventurer of the Year for his commitment to exploring the world’s most remote places, including Antarctica, Baffin Island, Greenland, remote islands, and even unnamed spots on the globe. An accomplished climber, Mike has planned and succeeded on more than 60 expeditions and established multiple first ascents. Mike has received numerous grants and awards. He has appeared on PBS, the National Geographic Channel, the History Channel, the Discovery Channel, the Travel Channel and more.
In this episode, Mike and Bill describe the relationship between Dell Technologies and Mike’s expeditions. Mike brings Dell technology to the most remote corners of the world; he uses the technology himself, and he gives it to the people he encounters. In an effort to give back, Dell and Mike work hand-in-hand to bring technology, education, and innovation to communities across the globe.
Mike and Bill describe how they deploy edge technology in far-away regions. Bill discusses the future of the edge, while Mike explains how it ties into his humanitarian missions and nonprofit.
Key Quotes:
Bill: “I could tell you a couple of like high tech wizbang cool things that we see coming with the edge, in terms of home automation and car automation and farm automation and things like that. But then when you're talking about natives who are farming for a living and hunting for a living and don't have any technology, what can they do with just a little bit that's specifically applied to help the trajectory of their village? Or, you know, get their kids into maybe mainstream life, maybe just doing their life better.”
Mike: “One small point that I see when I'm out in the field that you know, this edge technology come in and understand how much water, what's going here, how's the fruit looking? I mean, there's, there's real issues out there that they don't know how to contend with, they just go with what Mother Earth gives them. And to think about edge technology and what Bill understands in his team that I don't, that can be efficient, that can make things metaphorically and literally fruitful, and for them to take that to the markets. I mean, there's so much going on here that it's a whole new excitement of this mystery for me to be connecting with this kind of technology that I don't understand. Because my goal is how do we make the lives better for these people in Bolivia, for the world, for the, you know, to be part of this global family.”
Bill: “We have our view of the edge,and it's technological. Looking at data centers, looking at clouds. How do we help rebalance that technology so it's closer to people? So, it's providing new types of value? [Mike’s] going farther out. And so, that's kind of pushing the definition of the edge. It's taking technology out of the data center and putting it close to where the people are.”
Mike: “When I'm working with Bill and hearing about Edge, the stuff that I've learned that creates that new enthusiasm is that it takes some time, but the impossible takes longer. I feel like there's some impossible things that this edge technology is gonna unfold or unravel. I'm just fascinated.”
Show Timestamps:
(3:38) How Mike became an adventurer
(4:35) Mike’s partnership with Dell Technologies
(7:23) How to define an expedition
(10:29) Pushing the definition of Edge
(11:28) Dell’s field mission
(14:08) What technology does in remote places
(15:01) Mike’s mission to give back
(16:41) The start of Mike’s nonprofit
(18:45) Making expeditions sustainable
(23:10) Painting a picture of an expedition
(25:57) Investing in the future of Edge
(28:47) Dell’s definition of Edge
(31:50) Making technology fruitful in the field
(34:45) Mike’s Joyineering Fund
(38:40) The importance of giving back
(40:07) Why does Dell prioritize this work?
(45:47) Questions technology can help us with
(47:21) What makes Dell unique
(50:06) The future potential of Edge
Sponsor:
Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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This episode of Over the Edge was recorded live at Edge Computing World in October 2022. It features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rika Nakazawa, Group Vice President, Connected Industry & Sustainability for Americas at NTT. Rika is a global applied innovation and sustainability senior leader advancing business where digital transformation drives the greatest value.
As a senior leader in the New Ventures & Innovations group, she’s building NTT's Connected Industry team, advancing how part of Edge as a Service delivers business transformation outcomes. Rika is a frequent conference speaker and chair, with more than 15 years of business development, partnership management, innovation, design-thinking, and strategy deployment experience. She was featured on the CRN "Women Power 70" List and is on the advisory board for VR/AR, AI / Machine Learning, and IoT startups, and advancing initiatives for women in technology and leadership. Rika received her Bachelor of Arts in East Asian Studies from UCLA in 1997.
In this episode, Rika tells her story of becoming a leader in tech and how she arrived at NTT, she defines the role that connected industry plays within sustainability, and provides her thoughts on the future of edge computing including private 5G, blockchain, and the metaverse. Rika also provides advice for aspiring women in tech.
Key Quotes:“It's not just edge in isolation, it's about the ability for you to transmit data and relevant data at the edge and to be able to enable that processing to happen in real time. And, not just from one source, but multiple sources, and to be able to synchronize that.”
“We have to think that sustainability fundamentally is about considering the causal links of the butterfly that flaps its swings on one side of the earth, creating a tidal wave on the other side. And, so there's a lot of good intentions that's happening within sustainability in the way that things are gonna be managed. But unless we use edge and collectively create a network of edge intelligence to demonstrate the impact that one action and initiative is gonna have for a group of stakeholders and where that happens downstream or upstream, then we're going to be in a worse place.”
“Diversity, equity, inclusion will in some ways take care of itself. If we can help organizations really anchor around culture, I think culture is in a crisis. And, so I think that the way that organizations thrive is through culture and the way that you can align a purpose. Purpose driven business is a big topic as well, and I think that technology can really help us really create that point of light around key areas of purpose, what people want to rally around.”
Show Timestamps:(04:30) Becoming a woman in tech
(09:45) Arriving at NTT
(11:45) Connected industry and sustainability
(15:00) Overview of NTT
(22:45) Important objectives for digital transformation
(30:45) Sustainability as a service
(45:15) Exciting future technology
(55:45) Advice for aspiring women in tech
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/SimplifyYourEdge for more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and David Holmes, GM of Energy at Dell Technologies. David is involved in advancing decarbonization and the transition to sustainable energy. He works to understand the problems that energy companies are facing, so that operators and regulators can be more aligned when reducing their carbon footprints.
In this episode, Matt and David discuss the challenges of a global increase in energy consumption. David explains the need to advance energy systems and technology in order to reduce CO2 emissions. He dives into the importance of making energy not only sustainable, but abundant, affordable, and reliable. David also details how edge computing and use of certain technologies can help improve sustainability.
Key Quotes:“As demand for energy is dramatically growing, we need to completely transform our energy systems to reduce CO2 emissions on a massive scale. And it's that tension that gets me out of bed every morning - understanding the role of technology in supporting the growth of supply of energy, whilst at the same time dramatically reducing carbon emissions.”
“For me, a lot of what edge computing is really about is thinking: “How can we bring the best capabilities of operational technologists and informational technologists together to build a contemporary IT environment that supports the needs of the energy industry for national, critical infrastructure.”
“It's the wild frontier of managing our energy systems, and solving some of these problems is going to be critical. But guess what? None of it is going to work without a huge amount of edge technology deployed at scale with much greater computational capability than is available today.”
“There's two problems that the OT industry faces: reliability and resilience, which are absolutely critical. They have to keep the lights on. And in the current world in which we live, that means cyber resilience becomes one of the most important challenges that any energy company has to address.”
“There is going to be compute and data across the entire continuum, right from that little valve all the way up to a hyperscale data center. And the people who are going to be successful are the people who work out the right technical and economic places to run all of these different workloads.”
“I’ve got three goals. Number one, accelerate the energy transition. Number two, advance decarbonization. And number three, ensure global energy security. And I have the entire resources of Dell's engineering portfolio to help me build the solutions that are going to let me do those three things.”
Show Timestamps:02:12 - David’s technology origin story
06:58 - The increasing demand for energy
08:08 - The climate consequences of technology
11:07 - Applying technology to help reach sustainability goals
19:47 - Edge computing in the power industry
22:07 - The intersection of IT and OT
24:02 - Challenges the OT industry faces
24:48 - Taking a contemporary approach to edge computing
33:18 - Aligning operators and regulators
35:58 - The wild frontier of energy systems
38:14 - Adopting realistic cloud computing principles
40:09 - David’s team’s goals
47:26 - Defining where the edge is
52:05 - The future of computing
53:22 - David’s daily motivation
Sponsor:Over the Edge is brought to you by Dell Technologies to unlock the potential of your infrastructure with edge solutions. From hardware and software to data and operations, across your entire multi-cloud environment, we’re here to help you simplify your edge so you can generate more value. Learn more by visiting DellTechnologies.com/edgefor more information or click on the link in the show notes.
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Learn More:
- 5G and edge computing’s remarkable role in global decarbonization (2-minute video)
- Remarkable energy starts at the edge (eBook)
- Decarbonizing with data (infographic)
- www.dell.com/energy
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Dario Sabella, ETSI MEC Chairman.
Dario drives new technologies and edge cloud innovation for new communication systems. At Intel, he helps create world-changing technology to drive business and society forward. Dario’s involved in standardizing tech ecosystems and coordinating internal alignment on edge computing across SDOs and industry groups. As a chairman of the ETSI MEC, he also helps oversee the standardization of an open environment allowing for efficient and seamless integration of applications across Multi-access Edge Computing platforms.
In this episode, Matt and Dario discuss the importance of standardization as it pertains to MEC and the work of ETSI. Dario provides insight on different practices for deploying processes and workload at the edge. He emphasizes why collaboration within the telecommunications industry is critical to best serve customers, and what’s necessary for the future of edge computing.
Key Quotes:“The benefits of the coupling software and virtualizing everything, and doing so in this environment with virtual machines, containers, that's the power of this kind of cloud transformation, where MEC is a part of the journey. So, why not exploiting this flexibility, and then why not consider many kinds of deepness of the edge that are perfectly fine in principle? Of course, there are trade offs, but these are deployment choices, which depend, for example, on convenience, requirements, but also costs.”
“The standard is there for a reason, for long term interoperability and stability. But the need and approach to standardizing is not to over-engineer everything because otherwise we are risking to close the market. This is going really against also your interest.”
"To build end-to-end this kind of service, we have to collaborate, and everybody has to talk the same language in terms of data exchange practically. That's the role of the standard. So, restful APIs, data types, definitions, all the messages, everything should be in the standard. Otherwise, it's a mess. Well, in the competition, otherwise, there is no cake for anybody. Right? You talk about a total addressable market and then just having a portion of the cake of the market. If we compete and don't create a standard, there is no cake for anybody There is no market. So, the standard is enabling this entire cake and allowing them to work together because it is not actually competition, it's a collaboration."
Show Timestamps:(02:50) Dario’s Path into Technology
(4:10) Who sets the wireless communications standards?
(5:42) ETSI’s role in the standards world
(07:00) Why a customer-oriented approach is critical
(08:09) Importance of industry specification groups in MEC
(11:20) Significance of a standard’s body
(13:20) Defining multi-access edge computing
(16:05) Where is the edge?
(20:55) How hyperscalers and MEC standards work together at the edge
(24:35) Exploring the MEC Federation
(27:23) Cloud and edge in everyday life
(30:45) The importance of standards
(33:20) The future of MEC (Multi-access Edge Computing)
(38:50) Dario’s goals for the future of the industry and standardization
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Dalia Adib, Director, Consulting at STL Partners. In her role, she manages and leads teams to help telcos and their technology partners evaluate new opportunities. Dalia founded the Edge Computing Practice at STL Partners in 2019, which included building their own proposition in the space and establishing the company as a leading adviser for those looking to grow business opportunities in the edge computing ecosystem.
In this episode, Dalia explains what telecoms are doing to expand service through use of the edge. She defines and outlines where the edge is, and what it is doing to help enable companies to navigate the digital transformation. Dalia also talks about how organizations are thinking about the edge, and what might be some of the best future use cases for its implementation.
Key Quotes:“Where the edge becomes interesting is when it becomes really dynamic. In that, we'll have distributed environments where workloads and things can move across each other, and that will further emphasize what is true edge - what is just simply a, a static form of compute or some static compute with an application dedicated to it in an edge-like location.”
“I think generally how we distinguish traditional, let's say data center infrastructure or on premise compute with the edge is at the software layer. Probably more than anything in that for it to be true edge computing, it should be using cloud native software infrastructure, things like containers. Not everything is yet container based, but it should definitely at least not be about monolithic systems that are inflexible.”
“I think telecom operators are still figuring out their role. One thing that they are doing though, whether it's with edge or different services, they're trying to become more digital solution providers in general.”
“There just needs to be more edge infrastructure out there. Otherwise, we're going to be stuck with either the chicken or the egg, whichever way you look at it.”
Show Timestamps:(02:15) Getting into Technology
(04:45) Journey to STL Partners
(07:15) All about STL Partners
(10:15) Starting the Edge Practice
(13:15) Distinguishing On-premise computing from Edge Computing
(16:45) How Companies are Thinking about Edge
(25:15) Telecommunications Ecosystems
(27:15) Defining Mobile and Multi-Access Edge Computing - enabling vs providing, mobile, etsi layer
(33:30) What is Local Breakout
(36:15) Use Cases for the Edge - video analytics
(43:15) Trends in Neutral Host and Shared Infrastructure
(51:45) Important Edge Technologies to Push
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Michael Sherwood, Chief Innovation Officer, City of Las Vegas. Michael has more than 20 years of experience in the fields of process improvement, technology, and innovation. He is extremely passionate about technology and believes that more sustainable communicates can be built through innovation, workforce development, and collaboration.
In this episode, Michael explains how the city of Las Vegas is helping the community to be more efficient by providing new opportunities through innovation. The city is using technology to improve public safety, healthcare, transportation, education, and economic development. Michael discusses that by increasing connectivity and access for all communities, setting up innovation centers, and improving the city’s technological infrastructure, Las Vegas will continue to be a leader of municipalities as a destination not just for entertainment but also for business and progress.
Key Quotes:"One of the great things about doing all these innovation projects is that we get to meet a lot of great companies. They get to come to Las Vegas and see Las Vegas not just as a place for entertainment and hospitality, but they get to see as a great place for possibly relocating and doing business in the city of Las Vegas."
"Las Vegas is innovative in nature. We always think of innovative and entertainment, entertainment and hospitality. But, Las Vegas is also becoming very innovative on the technology side and really working towards diversifying its economy and attracting these new types of technologies. And, so from everything from underground to above ground, you know, you're gonna see those things here. And, it really is a testament to the community of people that live here as well as the people that are in charge."
"For us it's all about creating those new opportunities, creating those collisions that between our community and business, that hopefully leads to some really great things in the future."
"Las Vegas recognizes that education is extremely important and we want to build on that. And so from a technology perspective, obviously while we're not the school district, we support them in their needs. But, if there's things we're doing in the innovation space that can help students, that's what we're doing."
"To have intelligence in our roadways and in our communities, the grid really is where it's gonna happen. And, it's going to be game changing for communities."
"The cloud is never going anywhere. It's just another puzzle piece that provides more capability than we've had before. The cloud opened the doors several years ago. This next door that's opening is really starting to get us to the point of people starting to think about the Jetsons and start thinking about the Matrix and the technology that you see in those movies, and in some of that you start seeing the underpinnings of some of that now is actually possible."
"The capabilities of the future are going to be content or data driven where you're pushing data out into the community itself. Most businesses already have good internet connectivity. So, the next part of it is how do you marry that all together."
Show Timestamps:(02:10) History of Las Vegas
(05:00) What it’s like to be the Chief Innovation Officer and CTO
(07:00) Evaluating Technologies for Cities
(09:00) Promoting Public Safety
(10:00) Health Initiatives in Las Vegas
(13:30) Vision for Las Vegas LTE Network
(18:15) Transportation Trends
(22:00) Making it Easier for Technology in Las Vegas
(24:30) Economic Development and Jobs
(27:45) Education Initiatives
(33:15) Solidifying Sustainability
(35:30) Bringing New Grid Technologies
(40:30) Enticing People to come to Las Vegas
(46:30) Importance of Connectivity
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Dr. Robert Blumofe is Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer at Akamai. As CTO, he guides Akamai’s technology strategy to assess new market opportunities and new platforms for innovation, explore adjacent segments for the business, influence the development of standards, work with Akamai’s largest customers, and convene technology leaders within the company to catalyze innovation and represent Akamai’s technology vision in the marketplace.
In this episode, Dr. Blumofe explains how Akamai revolutionized content delivery networks and continues to evolve and expand its services. He discusses internet growth, adapting to a more robust virtual world, and important considerations for security. Dr. Blumoff also talks about how AI and ML will help shape the future of our cities.
Key Quotes:“More and more traffic to and from devices, that does create some interesting problems. You know, one is just the basic problem of scale. You now have more and more traffic from more and more locations. And, so we continue to see a world in which the internet, the volume of traffic continues to grow leaps and bounds, and the importance of the edge continues to grow.”
“Security and reliability get built by layering on top of the internet protocol, not by modifying the internet protocol itself. You layer on top and the power of layering can’t be overstated.”
“While edge computing is great, when you look at all of the microservices that make up an application, I don't think there's many cases where you could say that they all belong at the edge, or that they all belong at the core.
“For a modern application, multiple microservices, you really want to be thinking about for each microservice, where does it belong? Does it belong at the edge? Does it belong at the core? Does it belong somewhere in between?”
“At this point, the cost of connectivity is so low that anything that gets any benefit from being connected well, you might as well connect it.”
“It's a whole spectrum. It's not a one size fits all. But I think increasingly applications need to have at least some component running at, or very near the edge. The core alone really just doesn't solve it.”
"The dramatic change from IoT really is as much on the security side as it is from the scale and the importance of the edge.”
Show Timestamps:(02:45) Being Jack Benny’s Grandson and Getting into Technology
(05:20) First Memory of the Internet and Career Path
(10:45) Relationship Between Mathematics and Distributed Computing
(12:30) Akamai Journey
(14:45) What Akamai Does and the Start of CDNs
(21:30) How CDNs and Work
(27:30) Akamai Server and CDN Structure
(31:00) Akamai’s Expanding Services and Evolution
(35:30) Akamai’s Acquisition of Linode
(37:00) Edge vs. Core
(42:30) Akamai’s Interconnection Fabric
(44:30) Changes to Internet Traffic, Adaptation, and Security
(47:00) Concept of a Bidirectional CDN
(49:15) Network Security
(53:00) Akamai Network Capacity
(53:15) Most Exciting Innovations (remaking cities with AI and ML)
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This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Ivo Ivanov, Chairman and CEO of DE-CIX GmbH where he is responsible for the global business activities of the Internet Exchange Operator. Ivo has more than 15 years of experience in the regulatory, legal and commercial Internet environment. Joining the organization in January 2007, in recent years Ivo has been deeply involved in the establishment of DE-CIX sites in North America, Southern Europe, the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent, and Southeast Asia, as well as several consultancy projects in Africa, Asia and Europe. Ranked as one of the top 100 most influential professionals of the Telecom industry, Ivo is regularly invited to share his vision and thought leadership in various industry-leading conferences around the globe.
In this episode, Ivo talks about interconnection, how it differs throughout the world, and the importance of expansion especially in developing countries. He discusses how the edge interconnection platform is a missing piece to help enable many advancements and innovations in everyday life, in areas like automobiles and technology. Ivo also explains what he thinks the technology industry will look like five years down the road.
Key Quotes:“Interconnection really needs to get deeper into the edge for one very simple reason, quality security performance in general, or a magic world of latency. Latency is extremely important nowadays. I love to say latency is our new currency.”
“Why democratize? Because we have been doing this business for 27 years now. 24 years of those 27 were entirely wholesale industry focused. Just a couple of years back, we started direct business relationships with enterprises, with car manufacturers, with banks, with retailers, with logistic companies. And, these guys, their business is not telecommunications wholesale. Their business is the business of their industry segment. They just want to use this type of infrastructure for security and performance reasons. But they don't need to be experts in wholesale telecommunication. So, we need to make it as easy as possible for them to enjoy the interconnection services. This is what I call the democratization of infrastructure, that every single type of business on this planet can use.”
“I think in the future we need to develop these further pieces of infrastructure and it's not the DE-CIX platform only. We need to see more edge data centers. We need to see more fiber in the rural areas. Middle and last mile investments are extremely crucial also for the economy of the country and serving the people, disregarding where they live and work with the best possible quality of access to digital services. Because if you look at it from a more altruistic point of view, good access to digital services today also means a good quality of life because with economic growth at the end. I'm 1000% sure about this. Diversification of infrastructure is extremely important also for redundancy, resilience, and security reasons.”
“It will be a world which will use more and more digital services as we can even imagine today, further down the path we're talking about the metaverse. We're talking about an internet of a new generation or digital services of a new generation where people will enjoy different virtualization. eCommerce will change, will become extremely augmented and virtual reality driven. We will see in the business world further progress on processing on different solutions for any type of business that's relying on cloud compute, but also relying on digitalization and digital infrastructure.”
“I see a world full of innovation, I see a world full of digital infrastructure and demand for digital infrastructure. Therefore, I do worry a bit that we will not be fast enough to develop this digital infrastructure as much as we can and everywhere, literally everywhere, around the globe. At least, this is our mandate and we will not stop working hard every day to do this.”
Show Timestamps:(02:00) Getting started in tech
(05:52) Understanding internet connection
(12:19) Edge tech in internet connectivity
(16:47) How interconnection is changing
(21:11) Why interconnection must be democratized
(29:37) Advantages of having data centers in metro regions
(35:41) Interconnectivity in auto and tech sectors
(45:14) The importance of quality assurance
(46:38) Predictions for five years in the future
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stephen Goldberg, CEO at HarperDB. Stephen is an established thought leader in the IoT space, with previous professional experience as a CTO and CEO of startups, holding several roles at larger organizations like Red Hat, and leading digital transformation projects at a number of Fortune 500 companies across many verticals. He’s been published on sites like Tech Target and quoted in a number of articles and publications like Forbes and ZDNet, as well as being a speaker at IoT World, SAP Sapphire, and Salesforce.com’s Dreamforce. Stephen holds 2 patents and received his Bachelor of Arts from Trinity College-Hartford in 2006.
In this episode, Stephen talks about being a self taught programmer that initially wanted to work in anything but technology. He explains the process of co-founding HarperDB to deal with the rigidity and complexity of databases, and how the company makes it easier to globally distribute data faster. Stephen also discusses how bureaucracy, in many ways, is the biggest challenge to innovation and the adoption of new technologies.
Key Quotes:“For example, while we felt like the iPhone is an extremely complex device, technologically and internally, it exposes a very simple interface to the world that even a child can use. And, so our thought process was that a database should be the same for a developer. It should be a thing that a developer can just sit down and code, and ultimately, we have built far more than a database in the end. But, that was kind of the premise of what we wanted. We wanted something that would scale with you as your application grew, that made your life easy.
The bureaucracy, like the speed at which people move, their ability to think about how things work, that is now the one that I think is the biggest challenge is that this stuff is now and it's here. And, if you really wanted to do it, you could, but I think it's also just changing how people think about stuff. So, like you know, willingness to adopt new technologies, willingness to adopt new architectural paradigms, not trying to bring sort of the same cloud centralized sort of cloud model that you implemented to the edge, because it's not gonna work, because it doesn't scale.”
Show Timestamps:(02:00) Getting started in tech
(05:00) Starting HarperDB
(08:35) What makes HarperDB unique
(16:00) Understanding HarperDB
(22:00) Use cases for HarperDB
(26:45) HarperDB’s cloud product
(35:15) New product release
(36:30) Internet of Things
(46:00) HarperDB in gaming
(48:15) The future of tech
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This part 2 of 2 episodes of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Vishwamitra Nandlall, VP Technology Strategy & Ecosystems at Dell Technologies. Vish is an experienced CTO and a highly regarded telecom visionary. He is responsible for defining Dell’s technology strategy in the Big 6 domains, including 5G, Edge, Data Management, Cloud, AI and Security. Widely recognized for his contributions to the industry, Vish has also held CTO executive leadership roles in Telecommunications for 25 years, including Telstra, Ericsson, Extreme and Nortel. Vishwamitra has been awarded a fundamental patent for LTE, published several widely cited technology papers, and holds several patents for the design of cloud based mobile applications and communication services.
In this episode, Vish discusses the future of technology and his excitement over augmented reality and virtual reality. He also talks about the future of edge computing, including everything from cost to security, and the realities of what’s needed for its advancement and further adoption in the tech world.
Key Quotes:“Real productivity comes at the intersection of people, labor and the types of tasks that they're trying to do. A lot of what edge can do is to start to mediate that intersection.”
“The real gift that edge is going to be able to deliver, is the realization of all these technologies that have had limited reach, are suddenly going to be able to spill out of the cyber domain and into the meet space.”
Show Timestamps: (02:00) Open Grid Alliance
(04:15) Future of Technology
(13:00) Competition and Commercial Partnerships
(19:00) Considering the Customer
(21:30) Important Future Technological Focus
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This part 1 of 2 episodes of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Vishwamitra Nandlall, VP Technology Strategy & Ecosystems at Dell Technologies. Vish is an experienced CTO and a highly regarded telecom visionary. He is responsible for defining Dell’s technology strategy in the Big 6 domains, including 5G, Edge, Data Management, Cloud, AI and Security. Widely recognized for his contributions to the industry, Vish has also held CTO executive leadership roles in Telecommunications for 25 years, including Telstra, Ericsson, Extreme and Nortel. Vish has been awarded a fundamental patent for LTE, published several widely cited technology papers, and holds several patents for the design of cloud based mobile applications and communication services.
In this episode, Vish talks about laying the railroads for telecommunications. He discusses his career path and the work he did developing personal data appliances and smartphones. Vish goes over development and privatization of the internet. He explains how artificial intelligence has become a huge part of Dell products. And, delves into details about the build out of infrastructure, connectivity, and bandwidth.
Key Quotes:“We've moved towards this internet where we've centralized compute that creates pooling efficiencies, but it comes at the expense of propagation delay. But, largely what fueled the internet was the growth of a digital economy that was self-contained. It didn't have a lot of tendrils out into the real world. And, I think what Edge does is it starts to put up a series of sensors into the real world and it bridges this real world with this cyber world.”
Show Timestamps: (02:15) Getting Started in Technology
(05:15) Path to Telecommunications
(06:25) State of Advanced Technology in 1995
(10:15) Switch Networks
(15:15) Development of Internet Content Delivery
(23:15) Networking Standards and Internet Organization
(25:45) Path to Dell
(20:45) Difference between Propagation and Transmission
(32:45) Path to Dell Continued
(38:15) Software vs. Hardware
(39:15) Dell’s Role in Telecommunications
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This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Wolfgang Gentzsch, Co-Founder and President of UberCloud. Wolfgang is a passionate engineer, computer scientist, and entrepreneur with 30 years of experience working in engineering simulations, high-performance computing, scientific research, university teaching, and the software industry, from hands-on practices to expert consulting to leadership positions. He is an entrepreneur with six successful startups in Germany and the US, in engineering, high-performance computing, and cloud. Wolfgang is a member of numerous conference program, steering, and organizing committees, with 50+ keynote speaker appointments.
In this episode, Wolfgang tells us about the early days of network computing and how the grid was the predecessor to the cloud. He describes how advancements in connectivity and processing power can lead to revolutionary changes in everything from technology to healthcare. Wolfgang also explains what he thinks edge computing is today, and how his company is working to help democratize access to computing power in the cloud that was previously too expensive or too complex for most organizations to use.
Key Quotes:“Definitely, the grid was the predecessor of the cloud. And that's why there is not a real huge difference in both. The cloud infrastructure was completely virtualized and therefore fully automated and now I use that word democratized because almost everybody was able to use cloud resources then; which you couldn't easily say about grid. The grid was really for specialists in research centers.”
“You can innovate at your fingertips these days. You don't have to build, you know, 2, 3, 4, 5 models and crash them against the wall. Now you do it in the cloud, which might cost a thousand dollars or $5,000 even, but it's much, much, much, cheaper. So, there are tons of benefits these days when you move to the cloud.”
“Now HPC is really in the hands of everybody. For engineers and scientists a few decades ago it was only given into the hands of specialists, and that door is open for so many new applications, making any kind of research or products basically coming out much faster with exponential acceleration, which will continue tol help us to solve problems, real problems. It's I mean, like in healthcare, for example, or climate and weather forecast, and also new technologies like electrical cars, autonomous driving, and all that stuff. So, I mean it is successfully making our lives even more convenient, more comfortable, and also solving mankind problems which we are facing.”
Show Timestamps:(01:45) Getting involved in technology
(03:05) Difference between Scaler and Vector Computers
(07:45) Conversion of Parallel Computing and the Internet
(13:00) Network Computing and the Cloud
(19:45) Convergence of Grid and Cloud Computing
(23:45) High Performance Computing and Super Computing
(28:15) Difference Between the Cloud and High Performance Computing
(30:45) Uber Cloud
(39:45) Living Heart Valve Project
(41:45) Uber Cloud Project Example
(46:45) Growth of High Performance Computing and the Edge
(53:05) Future of the Cloud
(55:15) Is the Network or the Internet the Computer?
(60:30) What’s Exciting in the Future
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Christian Koch, Founder and Editor at Foundations, a modern publication about digital infrastructure. He is a veteran leader in the digital infrastructure space having held several leadership and operational roles at companies such as Microsoft, Twitter, and Globix. Christian was most recently the Head of Interconnection Product at DataBank, and previously a Director of Product Management at Digital Realty and PacketFabric. In 2016, Christian Co-Founded the New York Network Operators Group, a non-profit organization that aims to connect network operators and technology professionals through educational events and programs.
In this episode, Christian talks about how his interest in information and curiosity to learn about as much as he could, led him to become both a generalist and expert in the world of digital infrastructure. He explains the landscape of interconnectivity, including its history of development, current infrastructure, expansion, evolution, and use throughout the United States. Christian also delves into what he thinks edge is becoming, the different layers of networking, and how the cloud will become a primary infrastructure for workloads in the future.
Key Quotes:“Ethernet seems to be having this resurgence because it's probably the one technology that's is flexible as virtual machines in the cloud. You can basically scale it up and down. Whereas, you can go from a five gigabit ethernet circuit to a 10 gigabit ethernet circuit by issuing some configuration commands and making that change. Similar to how you can configure or reconfigure a virtual machine. Whereas, a wavelength isn't really like that, because it's all about dedicated connectivity. So if you think about ethernet share connectivity, that's what cloud computing is at the end of the day anyway; the shared infrastructure platform. So it makes it a little bit more flexible, and a little bit more easy to scale and deliver those services.”
“I don't even like using the word edge anymore because, you know, because I think it really boils down to it's just a place like geographical place. Right? You know, it doesn't have to do with networks. It doesn't have to do with clouds. It didn't have to do with computing. It's just, you know, kind of the perimeter between almost like interconnection.”
Show Timestamps: (02:00) Getting Interested in Technology
(04:30) Path to Networking and Interconnection
(05:50) Explaining Interconnection
(09:15) Backbone of Interconnectivity in the United States
(15:43) Public versus Private Networks
(18:45) Internet as a Fabric
(21:06) Network as a Service
(32:00) State of the Edge
(37:30) Internet Trends
(40:30) The Price of Shipping Data
(44:00) Future Trends
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Steve Mueller, Chief Technology Officer, Hypersive. Considered one of the world’s leading experts in remote technologies, Steve has spent the past 25 years providing his technical expertise to more than 300 of the largest enterprises across 5 continents. He spent his early years building core devops and virtualization principles to achieve automation and scale, has worked for VMware and AWS addressing customer needs, and is now CTO of a startup focused on next-generation edge, end-user compute, and device virtualization.
In this episode, Steve evaluates what the edge is today and how it has changed overtime. He talks about cloud computing and working in a remote desktop world. Steve addresses the future of physical security and technology, and why he is so excited about what’s in store for the use of video. He also explains how his company Hypersive provides a platform for building management and security through ready-to-run cloud services that work with already existing infrastructures.
Key Quotes:“The number one threat to any organization is the insider threat. So you don't trust your own people and that's very brutal. It's borderline non humanitarian, but if you're a business owner, especially at scale, the number one thing you're worrying about, the thing you're most proud about is your employees. Something you're worried about is your employees most. That's the one that takes companies down.”
“Really at the end of the day, remote desktops and remote applications run in the cloud. So, if we take something like Amazon, AppStream, or Amazon workspaces, they give you an inherently improved security posture. You get to govern and control in ways that you couldn't before.”
“We're focused on taking the technologies that customers use to manage their buildings and delivering it back to them as a service so that they can get off their traditional racks and consume those things that are either video surveillance or access control, the physical security world, or things like escalators, elevators, and commercial controls. They can consume that as a service and by service. In the end, our mission is to say, those workloads that you have in your building, it's not about the rack. It's about the fact that you, the customer, are having to constantly install it, or you're having to pay someone to install it. This is undifferentiated heavy lifting. What if we gave it back to you as a service that you consume and let you choose where to place it on the hardware? And so, we're really working with these customers to take these workloads, deliver them back to them as single tenant SAS services that they can consume. They don't have to put their people on it to build them. They can just use it in a consumption way and then they can put it where they want.”
Show Timestamps: (02:15) Getting into Technology
(04:00) Transitioning into Software
(05:05) Nostalgia Software Language
(06:00) Editor of Choice
(07:30) Career Journey
(09:45) Working for Amazon
(13:15) Working in a Remote Desktop World
(16:00) Working in Amazon Data Centers
(19:05) Founding Hypersive
(22:15) Physical Security and Technology
(27:00) Important Considerations for Building Security
(31:00) Surveillance Cameras
(36:30) Hypersive’s Focus on Cloud Security
(41:00) Interacting with and Future of the Edge
(48:45) The Future World of Video Technology and Security
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and David Knight, President & CEO of Terbine, a data exchange for the physical world that has built a highly scalable system enabling wider use of data to inform and radically reshape many industries and everyday life.
David is a serial entrepreneur, angel investor, filmmaker, and experienced startup executive with a history of innovation and market development. He has a background in core technologies, including multi-spectral sensing and communications, messaging, enterprise software and distributed systems. David has founded, co-founded and held leadership roles in tech companies with exits including two IPOs, two M&A buyouts, and two recession-triggered meltdowns. He now leads Terbine, a big data & AI startup.
In this episode, David talks about his journey from working on ham radios to being a pioneer in the early days of digital entertainment. He also discusses his involvement in the beginning of online storage, helping to launch the private space race, and dedicating himself to dealing with, analyzing, and processing the overwhelming amount of data that comes out of everyday life. David explains how all of this led to founding Terbine, and how the company has partnered with the City of Las Vegas to help propel the world to prosper through insight, communication, and emerging technologies.
Key Quotes:“They really want to make Vegas a place where they work on smart city technology and next generation communications. And, they're really investing in it, but more importantly, they're inviting startups and large companies to work together. And, so if you’re thinking of a city as a platform, which is not a normal way to look at a city, we are really trying to help the city itself become smart and also sustainable. You don't necessarily think of Las Vegas as a sustainable city, but if you think about it with things like the water shortage is coming up, it's a place that really needs to be sustainable.”
“The most interesting applications, which absolutely are going to be dependent on very rapid edge processing with low latency communications, are going to be in things that move. And, it could be a human moving. It could be commercial things. The first applications that we're actually looking at, and we will be doing very soon are in the commercial world.”
“What we're trying to do is say, look, we've already said, we're going to take the pulse of the earth, so now we're going to wire the physical environment into the digital twin and then collectively you can now navigate around it.”
“The more we can help the cities learn about the past, the present, and then extrapolate into the future, the better. So, it's not just the hedge funds that are going to make future bets. It'll be the cities themselves.”
Show Timestamps:(02:45) Getting into technology
(03:30) Arc to current role
(05:55) Working with new computing technology
(02:43) Early days of email / Start of Click to Send
(08:30) XPrize Competition development and execution
(19:17) What is Terbine?
(21:10) Breaking apart the problem space
(22:10) Looking at issues in 3D
(25:15) Breaking down data silos
(26:10) Dealing with fear and greed
(27:06) Motto - ‘Take the pulse of the earth’
(29:30) There are sensors everywhere
(32:30) Mobile Edge Computing
(36:28) Processing data and storage
(41:48) Compression algorithms
(43:15) Sharing data
(44:40) Solving business and technology problems
(45:30) Tech Startups in Las Vegas
(49:30) Las Vegas Smart City Showcase
(52:00) Terbine and Las Vegas partnership
(53:30) Las Vegas as a privately funded smart city
(54:30) How Las Vegas conducts business
(56:30) Vegas loop
(57:30) Brightline rail from Las Vegas to California
(58:52) Uses for Terbine platform
(01:03:30) Using Drones
(01:05:30) Digital Twin implementation and uses
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This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stephanie Atkinson, CEO, Founder, and Principal Analyst/Consultant at Compass Intelligence.
For more than 25 years, Stephanie has provided strategic insights, key trends, market intelligence, industry modeling/forecasting, and advisory services to technology companies, enterprise executives, and government leaders across the globe. She is the founder and CEO of Compass Intelligence, a leading tech advisory and market research firm based in Texas, and recently founded vMarque.com, serving SMBs with branding, web design, and marketing. Her knowledge base and expertise are centered around telecom, IT, mobile, IoT, emerging technology, and various high-tech topics.
In this episode, Stephanie talks about the hype behind the variances of edge computing, including the results from her Business Edge Report that give insights on the thought processes of business users and technology decision makers, and where money is being spent and how it is being used in the world of technology. She also talks about the future of the Internet of Things, the importance and applications of automation, and provides advice for women working in technology.
Key Quotes:“The one thing that I like to just hammer to my customers is I think that we over-hype technology each and every day and we need to be simplifying it. So the biggest takeaway is that we need to simplify not only how we're communicating with the customers, but we need to do our homework to better understand their ecosystem and the vendors that they're working with. That’s not just technology vendors, but their entire ecosystem. Because, if we don't understand their industry and what's going on with their day to day work, then that technology is something that over-complicates some of the things that they're working on. They don't want to hear about some gizmo or IoT. They want you to help solve problems.”
“We as an industry have to get away from the technology jargon and really start getting closer to our customers, applying it to their use cases, and speaking in their language. We continue to have a massive gap there. That's a big area that we help our customers with today.”
“We are looking at patterns. We're applying machine learning and artificial intelligence. And, we're working to bring together the human and the digital world, as we continue to automate businesses and operations. This is the evolution that we're in right now.”
Show Timestamps:(02:10) Stephanie’s Background
(04:03) Branching out into other Technologies
(07:13) Benefits of IoT and Machine to Machine Communication
(13:10) Compass’ Client Base and Needs
(14:10) Biggest Trends Not Obvious to Others
(16:36) The Metaverse isn’t a Brand New Took
(17:25) Getting Closer to Understanding, Supporting, and Communicating with the Customer
(18:55) The Business Edge Report Results and Findings
(23:49) Getting Smart with Value Added Reseller Relationships
(26:30) Efforts in Edge Computing
(28:52) Examples of Real-time Data Intelligence
(31:26) The Importance of Security on the Edge
(35:50) Hybrid Approach to Edge and Cloud Computing
(37:55) Simplicity of Implementing Plug and Play Solutions
(38:60) Seamless Exchange of IoT Data On a Global Scale
(43:40) Having a Strategic Perspective and Plan
(45:36) Advice for Women in Technology
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This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jennifer Fritzsche, Head of North American Telecom and Digital Infrastructure at Greenhill & Co., which is a leading independent investment bank focused on providing financial advice on significant mergers, acquisitions, restructurings, financings and capital raising to corporations, partnerships, institutions and governments.
Jennifer has a career record of success in providing thought leadership, strategic vision, and business insight leading to significant business growth and shareholder value. She is considered a leading expert in the telecommunications services, cable, data center and tower sectors. Jennifer is seen as a client-focused leader who is a trusted advisor and partner to clients, investors and boards of directors.
In this episode, Jennifer talks about navigating the continually changing world of technology, what aspects of it are missed most, and what is important to consider when strategizing for your business. She shares insight on everything from the edge and the uncabling of cable, to the importance of fiber, wireless, and data centers to shared infrastructures. Jennifer also discusses her recommended strategies for access providers and cloud computing, as well as her top technology trends for 2022.
Key Quotes:“Fiber is really the basis of every infrastructure you need. Data centers don't work without fiber related to them. Small cells don't work without fiber related to them. Towers, you need that back haul and front piece, which is the fiber going up. So, in order to carry all this traffic that fiber is critical. The veins in your body carry the blood around. So it's important and really can't be overestimated.”
“A tower is, I think, the best model ever made, because it's such a passive infrastructure. And I always used to joke the only cost to the tower was paying the taxes and sending the guy to mow the lawn underneath because there's really no embedded costs, which is why they're what we call contribution margins or every incremental dollar of revenue, there's like a 90% fall through to the margin. It's unbelievable.”
“I think that you're really going to begin to see growth and the deployment of enterprises wanting to make a walled garden around some of their own enterprise that they don't have to rely solely on like the likes of AT&T and Verizon, but keep the networks as the name would imply private.
“What I would do if I was the carriers, is kind of exactly what they're doing. I would say I need to buy spectrum. It's pay to play. I bought it and now I have to deploy it. And the traditional wireless model is 120% penetration in wireless right now in the US, so you have to pivot to new different areas of growth, private networks, IoT, enterprise; things like that, that can really drive that touch point to enterprise.”
Timestamps:02:25 Getting involved in technology
03:17 Navigating Technology
03:50 Current role at Greenhill
06:59 Millimeter Wave and the Uncabling of Cable
08:23 What is a Franchise Territory
13:05 Future of Cable
13:45 Fiber’s Role in Infrastructure
15:05 Blurring of Broadband Infrastructure Lines
18:05 Microsoft and Amazon’s Wireless Strategies
20:55 Access Providers and Data Center Business
24:05 Shared Infrastructure and Tower Territory
26:05 Edge Computing
34:22 Unlicensed Spectrum and CBRS
35:41 Private Wireless
37:25 Where Should Wireless Carriers Spend Their Money?
38:55 Best Strategy for Cloud Computing and Wireless
42:35 Spectrum and Shared Infrastructure
44:15 Top Technology Trends for 2022
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rob Tiffany, Executive Director at the Moab Foundation, and Founder and Managing Director at Digital Insights. A bestselling author and frequent keynote speaker, Rob serves on multiple boards and is routinely ranked as one of the top IoT experts and influencers in the world by Inc Magazine, Onalytica and other outlets.
In this episode we delve deep into how Rob went from a life of driving submarines, to being self taught in technology, and eventually becoming a leader in the world of IoT. Rob explains the value of IoT and the best ways to sell and explain it to the average person in real world terms, so they understand how embracing technology can save them time and money. Finally, Rob talks about how edge computing, IoT, and automation can be used to help with sustainability around the globe.
Key Quotes:“All that R&D and the rise of arm based processors are making things smaller that we would not have ever built. The chips, the sensors, the technology at a low cost - if it wasn't for this mega trend of smartphones forcing us down that path. And so a side effect of all this work, and you know how things like the most expensive version of the thing you make is the first version. And then it gets cheaper and cheaper. Well, IOT, the thing part of it, the device side of it, benefited from the whole planet going all in on smartphones.”
“When I talk about IOT and value, I try to stay away from saying AI and things like that. And I say, there is so much value just doing the stupid stuff, the low hanging fruit. I think we oftentimes do our customers a disservice because I hear people say IOT and AI in the same sentence over and over again. And I go, you know what, you really need to get in your car and I need you to drive to Omaha, Nebraska. I need you to drive to St. Louis. I need you to go to Oklahoma City, and I need you to meet real people who are just trying to get their job done. And they have no idea about your neural nets and stuff like that. And they don't understand it. And I think we scare customers. It turns out what my experience, not only at building Azure IT, but even more importantly building Lumata industrial IoT at Hitachi; I'd say that first 10 to 20% of value, whatever that means, saving money, making money that comes from the easy stuff. It really does. Just being connected, just not having to visit simple KPIs, simple thresholding; like stuff that manufacturers have done for a million years. It turns out that's the most of the value.”
"So my big recommendation to the world is start to crawl before you run. Do the basics, because it turns out you might get tons of value that you never realized just by doing the easy stuff first. Don't feel pressured to do something you don't even understand."
“When you talk about poverty, it turns out most poverty and hunger are related to farming. They are all correlated. Most of the poorest people in the world are in farming, and they're also starving. So when you can start knowing, remotely knowing in real time and doing it low cost out there where it happens, and then combined with automation, what's the action I'm going to take to make this better for someone, right? There's so much you can do. It's mind boggling.”
Show Timestamps:(01:12) Time in the Navy
(03:25) Getting started in technology
(04:06) Getting started in Visual Basic
(04:29) Getting started in IoT Career
(10:17) Defining the Internet of Things
(15:77) Connection between IoT and Smartphones
(17:33) Power of Wireless and IoT
(19:09) Briefing others on IoT while at Microsoft
(21:36) IoT and Value
(25:05) Edge Computing
(33:08) Alternatives to on premise equipment
(34:49) Automation strategy
(43:49) What makes edge harder than the cloud?
(44:31) Edge, IoT, and Sustainability
(47:50) Digital Twins
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This episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rex St. John, founder of Taroko Technology. Rex has spent the last decade building developer and innovator ecosystems at Intel, Arm, and NVIDIA. He recently resigned to work full time in Web3 to organize communities and developer programs. While at NVIDIA, Rex built the global software ecosystem for NVIDIA Jetson. At Arm, he built global developer relations programs for IoT and Edge. While working for Intel, Rex was the lead developer on many projects and built the Global developer ecosystem and GTM for Edge AI, Robotics, Drones, IoT, Industrial, and Embedded Systems. On his YouTube channel, Rex shares knowledge, analysis and insights about the future of hardware, software and crypto technology. He received his education from the Isenberg School of Management, UMass Amherst and is on the advisory boards for Silicon Valley Robotics and Dronecode.
In this episode, Rex tells us how he got his start in video game technology and then decided to learn to program and code on his own. He turned that into a career of coding, software development consulting, and technical evangelism. Rex provides his views on the evolution and adoption of Edge computing and IoT, including how kubernetes is helping to drive transformation. He also delves into the future of what he calls the ‘Machine Economy’ - where hardware, cryptocurrency, blockchain, and the metaverse may work in tandem to ensure continued efficiencies and support for business operations and security. Rex also raises the importance of improving the environmental impact of cryptocurrency and blockchain, and advancements in democracy, social engagement, and community.
Key Quotes:“I do think people get tired of hearing about IOT and the conversation has to change. And then ultimately, it's driven by the workloads and the profitability. If people aren't investing, then the innovations are going to move slower. And then if the workloads aren't there, then it's not a justified innovation. So, I think right now it feels very much like edge computing is on the rise.”
“Shifting everything from manual allocation to the biggest thing I think is just shifting all compute resources to an open economy, where you can list anything on the network and get paid to put that on. I think that's going to have a very profound and massive impact on the computer industry at the very least.”
Show Timestamps:(02:29) Getting Started in Technology
(04:00) Evolution of Edge Computing and IoT
(06:45) Electrical IMP and Particle
(08:22) Internet Connectivity and Rise of Edge Computing
(10:00) Latest Trends in IoT and Kubernetes
(13:30) Kubernetes Driving Transformation
(16:00) Orchestration
(18:10) Machines Operating Machines
(18:55) Principles of Web3 and Security
(21:00) Intersection of Security with Web3, IoT, and Edge
(22:30) Cryptocurrency, Helium Mining, and Device Networks
(24:00) Demand for Hardware and maintaining efficiencies
(26:20) Market Based Scheduling
(28:40) Metaverse Rental GPU Market
(29:40) Proof of Work and Proof of Stake
(32:00) Improving Environmental Impact from Cryptocurrency and Blockchain
(35:00) Machine Economy and Carbon Credits
(36:36) Carbon Accountability
(39:25) Doughnut Index / Doughnut Fund
(43:30) Views on Regulation
(46:45) Technology Breakthroughs
(47:25) Innovations in Democracy, Social Engagement, and Community
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Third Pillar
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Sovereign Citizen
This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Ali Fenn, President of ITRenew. Ali is a dynamic and innovative executive with a track record of success in business development, sales and product management. Fenn's experience spans numerous technology areas, including: enterprise infrastructure and the broader software and applications stack, storage and data management, security, mobile applications, hardware, and consumer web applications and services. She is currently a board member of Virtual Power, and strategic advisor for Energy Internet Corporation as well as Pentatonic.
In this episode Ali Fenn, President of ITRenew, a circular data center services company that provides secure decommissioning and Sesame recertified rack scale solutions, breaks down the journey of technology from pre-use to post-use, and analyzes the amount of carbon emission produced throughout its lifecycle. She also talks about creating a circular IT infrastructure, demystifying hyperscale hardware, and causes of the ‘lion’s share’ of carbon emissions. She ends the episode talking about a need for the world’s collective effort in solving unsustainable IT infrastructure.
Key Quotes:“They've [most companies] done a really good job at being efficient in the use phase, but supply chain is the next big place we all have to look at. It's the lion's share of carbon emissions. It's not just equipment, it's cement and construction and everything else that goes into the physical infrastructure.”
“I do believe that it's this topic of sustainability and in the context of IT infrastructure: It's our global collective imperative to solve it. And, at the same time, it's a huge opportunity, right? Data center infrastructure is going to fuel the transition economy. It's a trillion dollar opportunity. This is not just sustainability, it is not a tax. It's an opportunity if we do it right.”
“The idea here is to demystify hyperscale hardware and demystify open hardware. It doesn't have to be harder, but there is some work that goes into making it accessible to the broader markets. And that's the stuff that we do. We ultimately deliver it in a way that the enterprises can run super fast. And, that time-to-value is a big one, especially right now in the supply chain that we're in. You asked about the value proposition of this stuff, well, it's available. We're not manufacturing this stuff, right. So that's a huge advantage right now.”
Timestamps:(02:30) Early on in Ali’s career
(03:25) First Company Ali Joined
(04:00) Transfer to Infrastructure and Hardware
(05:50) What does ITrenew do?
(07:53) Data Center Sustainability and the ‘3 scope’ terminology associated with carbon emissions
(09:40) PUE - Power Usage Effectiveness
(11:42) Hardware Footprints - Sustainability and Circularity
(15:45) Hyperscale data centers
(20:30) ITrenew and recycling vs. refurbishing
(25:01) What is Sesame?
(25:40) Data Security
(29:38) Edge is Everywhere - computing impacting sustainability and equipment
(33:21) Ecosystem Wide Collaboration and Data Center Sustainability
(35:56) Supply chain data publication
(36:45) TCO Levels
(39:00) Rack Density
(40:00) Business Model Innovation and Circular IT Infrastructure
(42:30) Edge Computing Effects
(45:15) Solving IT infrastructure
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Episode Notes:In this episode Matt Trifiro interviews Kit Colbert, SVP and CTO at VMware. Kit started at VMware right out of college as an intern in 2003. He is responsible for ensuring VMware’s long term technology leadership through research and innovation programs, with the primary goal of positively impacting and shaping the future of VMware, its ecosystem, and its customers.
Kit talks about how his role as CTO at VMware isn’t typical compared to his peers, and how he’s both looking out for near term deliverables and ensuring the company has a viable future. He provides insight on what he has learned and how the company has adapted and progressed over the years, discussing everything from the future of connectivity and bandwidth to blockchain and the open grid alliance.
Key Quotes:"We're trying to balance sort of two aspects. Number one, sort of our near term deliverables to help engineering accelerate and deliver these new products in new ways for us. And number two, also chartered with ensuring that we've got a viable future. And so we’re looking at the different sorts of innovation, research, and things that are going to be paying the bills in maybe five to seven years."
"It's basically a question of how do we as an industry build, deliver, and operate software. This is the challenge that we've been struggling with for the last few decades. And there's the sort of traditional model, which has been that you build it, then you test it, and then you ship it out to customers and they stand it up. I think the big shift that we're seeing is that people would prefer to get things as a service."
"People are now looking for everywhere. And, I think the opportunity goes back a lot to the programming model. How can we make this as simple as possible for developers? Because I think the easier that you can make it, that's where you're going to win. People love simplicity, and that's one of the beauty of cloud; there's a tremendous amount of complexity, but that complexity is largely hidden most of the time."
Timestamps:(02:00) Getting Started in Technology
(05:10) Working at VMware
(07:10) What does the CTO of VMware do?
(07:40) What an Organization Values
(08:40) Empowering Others
(10:20) Ensuring a Viable Future
(11:40) Existential Trends, Staying Ahead, and History of VMware
(13:10) VMware Product Focus and Security Considerations
(14:20) Focus of the office of CTO
(15:30) Blockchain
(17:50) Trends Driving Visualization and Multi-Cloud
(23:21) Edge Opportunities
(25:00) Open Grid Alliance
(28:30) Modern Application Design
(29:50) AI/ML Use Cases
(31:39) VSan and Automation
(35:05) Future of 6G and Networking
(38:50) Architecture Opportunities and Integration
(40:30) IoT and Considerations for Computing and Security
(42:15) Edge and Multi-Cloud
(45:00) Data Centers and Storage Locations
(47:50) Email Signatures
(54:10) Notion of Inclusion
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Episode Notes:This episode of Over the Edge features an interview between Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios and Matt Trifiro, Chief Marketing Officer at Vapor IO.
Matt leads Vapor IO’s global marketing, branding and communications efforts. He is an expert in strategic positioning and edge computing, Co-chair of the State of the Edge Report, and Chair of The Linux Foundation’s Open Glossary of Edge Computing. He is an expert at strategic positioning, category creation, and PR. Matt always asks a lot of questions in search of the threads of understanding that move markets.
In this episode Ian and Matt discuss the future and evolution of Edge computing, its scope and definition, and what that means for this podcast. They go over how Edge computing is powering the evolution of the internet grid, and what’s driving change in the industry. Ian and Matt also delve into the requirements for real time responsiveness, speed, and bandwidth to accomplish everything from complex computations to simply running a home appliance, which blur the line between what is traditionally considered the Edge and the Internet.
Key Quotes:“As we improve the technology for virtual reality and augmented reality, and we reduce the weight of those headsets and the need to have a tether and all of these things, it may in fact become a much more compelling experience than it is today, which already is a fairly compelling experience. What are the challenges in delivering all these new experiences though Is that the internet can't do. It's not fast enough, it's not close enough. Or you start dealing with the speed of light as a problem among others and the infrastructure and the mechanisms to deliver these new kinds of services.”
“What's the difference between edge and on premises? Nobody has a good answer. The real answer is nobody cares. Nobody cares where the computer is. You just want it to work. And so what's much more important is that we build the infrastructure and the software systems that allow us to place workloads that are, whether it is driving a factory, or autonomous car, or a streetlight, or AI inferencing for a video camera, or a game for my twelve-year-old - you want suffer systems that place these workloads at the right place automatically and run them autonomously at machine speeds, which we've never been able to do before.”
“This idea that as a user, you're not thinking about where the electricity is coming from or how it's getting to you, or whether it's the right voltage or how many Hertz it's cycling between positive and negative. You're not thinking about any of that because that's not important. Just as long as your dishwasher, or your blender, or your coffee machine works, that's what you care about. And all this other very, very complex stuff happens on the backend in order for that to be possible. But you don't care about it, just as long as it works, and that's how the internet should be.”
“There's a lot of insights that come from one field that when applied to another field, give you advanced technology. So, biology applied to engineering or engineering applied to biology, or neuroscience applied to chemistry. It's really interesting how different fields create different metaphors and ways of things that when applied in a new field, create insight. And I just want to create that opportunity for more people to understand how all these pieces might fit together, to be excited about it, but also just to elevate the understanding of how the world works.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Fay Arjomandi, Founder, President, and CEO of mimik technology.
Fay is a serial entrepreneur, multiple-time CEO, and authoritative voice in the tech industry. She is an official member of the Forbes Technology Council, and recently received the State of the Edge and Edge Computing World 2020 Edge Woman of the Year Award.
In this interview, Fay discusses the origins of mimik’s hybrid edge cloud computing application development platform, and how it is enabling digital transformation and helping build a socially and economically sustainable applications ecosystem.
Key Quotes
“We are a big supporter of ecosystem. That's number one. We're basically saying that the opportunity is way bigger than one single company winning everything…We think this is an ecosystem play, and the opportunity is quite lucrative for everybody.”
“We believe in the ecosystem that is like a Bazaar. Everybody defines their own set of things that they sell, and the consumer can pick and choose different parts of the product that they want from different entities and different companies. But the Bazaar itself goes by a set of regulations.”
“The fast pace of the world is why restful APIs are so important, because there is so much we don't know. We don't know what we don't know. And I think that's one of the challenges of enterprises right now, it's almost like ‘Okay, I need to do my digital transformation. Where do I start?’"
“Restful API has become so important and defining an architectural pattern of microservices has become so important, because that allows people to iterate on design, development, and delivery and integration with the rest of the world.”
“When people say ‘What does mimik do?’ We say simply, we enable microservice development on any device. Because that is the key in terms of market adoption of digital solutions in a sustainable and systematic approach.”
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Today’s episode features an interview that took place earlier this month at Kubecon’s Kubernetes on Edge virtual conference between Matt Trifiro and Craig McLuckie.
As a co-founder of the Kubernetes project and co-creator of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, Craig is a modern-day legend in the space. He left Google in 2016 to found Heptio, and currently serves as VP of Product Management at VMware.
In this interview, Craig discusses the Kubernetes origin story, his current work in the Modern Application Platform business unit at VMware, and why he says Edge will be a highly disruptive area of innovation.
Key Quotes:
“From a futures perspective, it's all about the edge. This is where I see the most excitement…I think it's going to be a huge growth area and a highly disruptive area of innovation over the coming years.”
“To succeed in a startup, you really need to look for a moment of disruption where the set of incumbents are not able to move as quickly as they might like; where there's a high total addressable market…that's what you can create a successful business out of.”
“There's no substitute for culture. I think if you can establish a very effective cultural bar, if you can design your culture to the problem at hand, and if you hold yourselves to a very high standard, it becomes self-perpetuating…[It starts] with being very, very deliberate about the cultural roots.”
“We are an organization that is in service of the community and in service of our customers, and what we build is honest technology. So we stand behind the way that we build, and we stand behind what we build. We take a great degree of pride and delight in creating honest technology.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between your host Matt Trifiro, and David Xie and Dalerie Wu of Zenlayer.
David is the Chief Product Officer at Zenlayer. Before joining Zenlayer, he spent eight years at Gartner, most recently as Group Vice President of Digital Products.
Dalerie is the Head of Corporate Strategy at Zenlayer. She has been with Zenlayer since 2015 and previously led its global marketing team.
In this interview, David and Dalerie discuss the unique challenges of bringing edge solutions to emerging markets, and how the edge represents a huge opportunity to introduce a quality digital experience to countries with underdeveloped telecoms infrastructure.
Key Quotes:
“I'm sure a lot of technologists think about the edge from the technology angle. We tend to think about edge purely from our customer's perspective. Because we are serving global companies, they are usually doing well in their home country, which is usually in the developed world. For example, if the United States is the core market, then the emerging markets will become the edge for them.” -David
“All of those emerging markets are growing at a much faster speed and they have tons of people, so if you add those two things together and then couple that with the poor infrastructure, that means there's a huge opportunity for infrastructure providers to bring a good or decent digital experience to those users.” -David
“In emerging markets, it's really people using mobile internet more than wired connections because of the infrastructure issue. It's hard for them to build fiber, so you have wireless internet being so much more dominant. Over 90% of people who are on the internet use a mobile device to access it.” -Dalerie
“I think once [5G] does roll out to emerging markets, it will have a much bigger impact than it would probably have here in the US…[but] really building and ramping that up is going to be a challenge.” -Dalerie
“Cloud and edge [are] complementary. Cloud is always going to be here as the core, but as more and more applications are being consumed by users all over the world at the edge, you need the edge computing component to complement that.” -Dalerie
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Nick Barcet, Senior Director of Technology Strategy at Red Hat.
Nick joined Red Hat in June 2014 and now leads the team that helps decide the future of technologies, currently focusing on Telco, Edge, and AI/ML.
In this interview, Nick discusses what it means to set edge strategy for Red Hat, where he’s seeing the most edge-related demand right now, why the future of edge must be open, and the floating IP solution he’s constructed in order to get reliable internet while he sails around the world on his boat.
Key Quotes:
“When we’re talking about a new field of interest, what people are saying is still not yet normalized. We still have problems with definitions and there is a lot of confusion. If I take the average person in the IT field and ask them, ‘What is the edge?’ The answer is generally linked to mobile phones and 5G. And while these are important components, they are not the beginning nor the end of it. So I think it's super interesting to be in this early phase and trying to bring more clarity to the fog in which we are moving.”
“[Three areas] where we see a lot of edge-related demand right now are: In telco–they are busy deploying 5G, which requires an edge infrastructure for it to be performant. Then automotive–lots of evolution is happening in the auto industry…And then the general industrial environment–whether it's oil and gas or standard factories–is really, really keen on improving their processes by deploying edge infrastructure. But it doesn't stop there. We see opportunities happening in retail, in healthcare, in the public sector, it’s really, really varied.”
“When you're dealing with open-source software, there is never a case where a single company offers that piece of software, there are generally multiple options, and that's another way of protecting you from having to redo everything from scratch. So that's why I think that the edge cannot be fruitful--cannot bring maximum benefit--without being open, because if you are not protected against those risks, you're going to have a very, very costly edge.”
“The evolution of networking…is going to change a lot of things on how we approach the networking problem…The availability of network is going to become a problem of the past. If we look at 20 years from now, we have hope to have instantaneous communication--as in quantum--we could have instantaneous communication from any point to any point.”
“The other evolution that is really interesting is how we are using processing power in more specialized units. The fact that you have DPUs available in SmartNICs and we can use those to do things in parallel to what the main CPU is doing. I believe that this specialization of resources is going to enable a new generation of software that provides for problem-solving quicker and much cheaper than ever before. We've seen that revolution happen through GPU's, but we are only at the beginning of this revolution, and it's going to go through all kinds of discoveries.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Lee Hetherington, VP of Technology at Ori Industries.
Lee has been in the infrastructure and networking space for over twenty years, and prior to joining Ori, spent the last five years setting strategy and focusing on edge and content delivery for two of the world’s largest hyper-scalers.
In this interview, Lee dives deep into the technological challenges of building the next generation of cloud, illustrating his and Ori’s approach to solving the infrastructure, software, networking, and business problems of constructing the globally-distributed edge cloud of the future.
Key Quotes
- “I don't want to go and build a hundred megawatt deployment in any city in the world. That just seems crazy to me. That’s not what the edge is all about. Amazon does a really good job of that. So does Microsoft, so does Google. Why would we try and compete in that business?
- What we're looking to try and do here is: you're a developer, you're running your application inside one of these hyper-scalers. Now you want closeness to the user and that's the thing that's important with edge. That's where we can come in…that's where edge and cloud kind of complement each other more than they compete with each other.”
- “People asked me before I joined Ori, “What are you doing? This is crazy, this edge computing thing. Are there really legit use cases that are actually going to drive this thing?” But I think we're in this really interesting position where…if you're a software developer, the envelope can really be pushed. We're no longer building monolithic applications. Things need to be more distributed…That's really where it's at.”
- “I think we all go through our careers and it's very rare to find an opportunity that's a legit greenfield. Ori represented a huge greenfield for me personally…Working on edge at Facebook really got me bitten by the bug of ‘How do we get the best user performance? How do you really distribute this thing? How do we serve billions and billions of users?’ It's a super interesting challenge. And a greenfield I just didn't feel like I could pass up.”
- “Building big things that live in clouds and use database-as-a-service and all these other things, that's great. But to actually create a great user experience and do all of the AR and VR things that people have been talking about for a while now, we really need to be embracing things like edge…I think that developers pushing the boundaries of what we can do with this kind of infrastructure is going to be really, really interesting.”
- “What it's about is driving an ecosystem. It's not about ‘How does Ori build this great closed-source thing and demand people come and spend lots of money with us.’ It's about how do we help these developers build applications which work on edge.”
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Today’s episode features an interview that took place live at the 2020 Edge Computing World Conference between Matt Trifiro and special guest Jonathan Seelig, Co-founder and CEO of Ridge and Co-Founder of Akamai Technologies.
As a co-founder of Akamai, Jonathan is one of the true godfathers of edge computing, having enjoyed an extremely impressive two-plus decade career in technology as a founder, investor, and board member.
In this interview, Jonathan and Matt discuss the past, present, and future of edge technology, starting with the origins of Akamai at MIT in 1997, through to Jonathan’s latest venture at Ridge, where he is building the distributed cloud platform that will power the next generation of cloud native applications.
Key Quotes
- “One of the things that happened at Akamai is that, because this distributed infrastructure existed for content because the CDN was created, and because you could get scalability, reliability, and performance in ways that you never were going to be able to out of centralized infrastructure…Netflix happened and Hulu happened and online gaming happened. And even if some of those companies were never my customers, the reason that those capabilities exist in the marketplace is because the CDN was created. It completely changed what entrepreneurs and what content owners believed to be possible.”
- “One of the things that we were observing in 2018 is that there just didn't seem to be a lot of really good thinking about how to create very highly distributed infrastructure for compute…The argument that we're making at Ridge is that applications that are going to really change the world going forward…are going to care a lot about geography and care a lot about being highly distributed.”
- “I can't imagine that if we sit down and have a conversation five years from now about the cloud, that three companies will have 100% market share of the industry. We've never seen an infrastructure company become a full monopoly…The idea that we're going to have one infrastructure provider that will be able to do everything that a company needs them to do all over the world in every single location just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.”
- “Five years from now, I would imagine that ten milliseconds of latency for the vast majority of users in the world is sort of de rigueur…And then we'll talk about how hard it is to get single digit milliseconds of latency and how that's going to be 2025’s edge cloud.”
- “None of us are going to solve this on our own…for these ideas to work, this is an ecosystem play. One of the things that makes the hyperscale clouds so powerful is the ecosystems that they have developed around their platform…You have to pull together as an ecosystem as opposed to a single vendor. That, to me, is the thing that's going to require the most advancement for this to become more mainstream and more accessible over time.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Rodney Richter, Enterprise Architect at Hewlett Packard Enterprise and member of the LF Edge Technical Advisory Council
Rodney has been with HPE since 2015, and previously held numerous positions over 19 years with AT&T, including Principal Network Planning Engineer responsible for AT&T Wireless and Wireline access network virtualization.
In this interview, Rodney takes us through the technological and logistical challenges of implementing edge solutions at the enterprise level, the thinking that led HPE to develop an entire product line of edge servers, the types of use cases that are getting traction today, and more.
Key Quotes
- "Everybody's looking for ways to optimize their business. As they invest in edge, it’s about what can they do differently and how do they make it more efficient…looking at ways to automate at the edge to be able to do things that they've done before, but haven't done as quickly or as efficiently."
- "Over the next 18 months, I think we're going to see the evolution of the network edge a lot more. At least in the open source community, a lot of applications and platforms are being developed that are going to help move things forward, especially evolving from some legacy platforms and seeing the data move from the data center out to the edge."
- "We've been in the edge business for quite a few years now and I see the next 18 months just starting to explode. Customers that are going to either implement [edge solutions] at their customer sites or they're going to be using network edge."
- "A lot of devices that are generating data typically were analog, now have moved into the digital age. So you now have the need to be able to collect and process that data at the edge…And you do that by developing a whole new product set….so you can run the applications that you typically run in the data center, but now you can run them at the edge."
- "The edge and the cloud and the data center and the mini clouds, it’s all going to be part of an overall solution. You need to look at the application that's going to be running or set of applications or platforms and what are the requirements for each. Some things will operate in the data center, some will operate in the cloud, and some will be at the edge. You're going to use all of those as a tool set to be able to develop an overall solution."
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Iain Gillott, founder and president of iGR market strategy consultancy.
Iain is a leading wireless and mobile industry analyst, and since 2000, has run iGR, a market strategy consultancy focused on the wireless and mobile communications industry.
In this interview, Iain discusses the many challenges and intersections between wireless, mobile, and edge computing, his views on where the telco operators will fit into edge, the role CBRS will play, and much more.
Key Quotes
"Problem number one is people don't realize how much edge is actually out there. A lot of people think, ‘to do edge computing, I’ve got to wait for 5G. There'll be no edge until there's 5G.’ But some of the very first edge compute was put in with ethernet wired connections…The second problem is that everybody has a different definition of the edge. My definition of the edge is if you take one more step, you fall off a cliff. That’s the easy one."
"The perceived value of edge compute in the mobile network is with the cloud vendor, not with the mobile operator, and I think that's a problem. It doesn't mean they're not needed. The mobile operators are needed, but from a mobile operator perspective, their customer is the cloud vendor. It is not the enterprise or the end-user…In this respect, I hate to say it, but they are being pushed into an edge bit-pipe relationship where they're going to rely on the cloud guys to deliver that business to them."
"When we've seen things take off in technology, they're one of two things: They're either huge volume, mass market, low cost. Or they're very specific, super high requirements, and expensive. It takes a while to build the middle ground."
"The operator will tell you it's the connection that's the value. The application developer says it's the application. The edge compute guy says it’s the servers. But the whole solution is the application, some compute, and connectivity. But the CIO looks at the entire solution. The answer is we need all three."
"I think the problem with edge compute is, it's very difficult to pick winners and losers right now. Some operators are going to be successful with their strategy and others will not even be involved. So picking winners and losers is difficult."
"I think people who've got a very rigid view of ‘the edge is here, and I'm going to do this and sell it to these people,’ that's a problem. You've got to be much more fluid and say, ‘to this customer, the edge is over there, for this customer, the edge is over here, and for this customer, it's actually completely different.’ You’ve got to be really fluid and flexible, probably like we haven't been before as an industry. And I think this is why the operators will have a problem because they're not flexible."
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Iyad Tarazi, President, CEO, and Co-Founder of Federated Wireless
Iyad is a technology industry trailblazer with experience in successful commercialization of disruptive cloud native SaaS technologies. Prior to Federated Wireless, he served as Vice President of Network Development and led the Network Vision modernization project at Sprint Corp.
In this interview, Iyad discusses CBRS, shared spectrum, and the massive potential for disruption and innovation they represent, as well as the interesting intersections between CBRS and edge computing.
Key Quotes
“The most thrilling part of CBRS is that it truly is free. It's really democratizing wireless access.”
“This is like Airbnb. Don't sell the house, I'll rent the room for you tomorrow. That's basically what we're doing. We make the spectrum available immediately, which is great for economics and great for innovation.”
“When we go from a few people building technology on spectrum to thousands and thousands if not millions of deployments, the amount of innovation we’re going to get in the software technology ecosystem is going to go through the roof…Innovation is going to take off. That's democratization in the best way possible."
“The U.S. will become the most innovative, by far, in creating solutions and applications and technology for wireless, because they’ll be able to get a thousand enterprises or a thousand companies all innovating at the same time.”
“At the end of the day, we're a software company that sits on top of an open ecosystem with a bunch of partners built around a very, very innovative spectrum model that's enabled by a really innovative government. The FCC and the DOD and NTIA and the White House--what they've done here over the last 10+ years in terms of creating this innovation model has really been first in the world.”
“All we really do right now is facilitate the management and enable the system. We pass more than 90% of the value of what's happening and what the spectrum offers over to our customers. We're more focused on enabling the ecosystem and enabling our customers than anything else. We're an enablement platform at the end of the day.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between guest host Ian Faison, the CEO of Caspian Studios, and David Hart, CTO and Co-Founder of NetFoundry.
David has over 20 years of experience in the software industry and is an expert in the IoT space, having led successive generations of remote connectivity platforms and played a key role in realizing innovative connected product solutions.
In this interview, David discusses how NetFoundry is redefining networking in order to enable innovation, the key role networking plays in digital transformation, the critical moment IoT is undergoing, and why edge solutions need to be an ecosystem play in order to succeed.
Key Quotes
- “When we talk internally as a company, we say we are redefining networking in order to enable edge innovation. And when we say edge innovation, we don't mean edge like edge computing, we mean like innovation around the edges, so innovation where you don't need to ask permission.”
- “We have a very strong belief at NetFoundry that for us to be successful and for these ideas to be successful, it's an ecosystem play. We need to be out talking to people and working with people in the edge space.”
- “To me, it's better when you don't talk about IoT…In other words, as it gets to the point where you're not talking about IoT itself, but you're just talking about things that are good ideas and should be done, that’s when we're really getting somewhere.”
- “Networking is a huge part of any digital transformation or any kind of distributed application. It's a central part of the issue, so we want the network to be application-centric. We want the application developer to control the network and embed the network directly in the app.”
- “I hope we continue down this democratization path, redefining networking in order to enable edge innovation and getting the world to the point where people who don't necessarily have access to tons of money or the ability to roll out massive, distributed systems, can start getting that in their hands.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Stacey Higginbotham, Founder and Editor of Stacey on IoT.
Stacey has been covering technology for major publications for almost two decades and now produces a weekly podcast, newsletter, and daily articles covering all aspects of the internet of things under the Stacey on IoT brand.
In this interview, Stacey explains the intersection between IoT and edge, how to think about IoT from the bottom-up perspective of the devices and manufacturers, and shares some interesting use cases and innovative companies tackling the most challenging problems in the space.
Key Quotes
- “The idea [of IoT] is that we now have cheap computing, we have cheap sensors, and we can start pulling all this information and synthesizing it in a very cost effective and efficient way. And we can know–not quite everything–but a lot about everything. And it's beautiful.”
- “IoT makes the invisible, visible. So you can see things that you haven't seen before.”
- “Think of IoT as the physical infrastructure that ties the internet, combined with the physical infrastructure needed on the things themselves. And then you add AI to it, which is the analysis and the synthesis of the data that's going to be coming in. That's the soul. AI is the soul, IoT is the body, and then you have this wonderful cloud of information that is so transformative.”
- “I want to make it easy for people to get excited about IoT, because this is really a big deal. It's as big as the invention of broadband or bringing mobile connectivity to everybody. You get all these new applications and we're just scratching the surface, and it's going to be awesome. Unless we utterly screw it up, which we totally are.”
- “I don't know if we're ever going to get to the ‘cloud version’ of the edge. When you're thinking about computing at the edge, you can't expect the wolves to all behave gracefully. So we have to build more safeguards in, which is going to be less efficient, which the cloud people hate. And the people talking to the cloud people are like, ‘it's really important.’ There's a dichotomy there that I think is under appreciated.”
- “The cloud thinking is ‘how can we form a monolith, how can we build an application that can run across a bunch of these servers?’ In IoT, I think we're going to come into this realization that what we really need are a bunch of individualized, highly personalized, customized applications. So the opposite of a monolith.”
- “Right now, especially when we talk about privacy and security, we're having this debate over convenience versus our potential loss of our individual liberties. I don't think many people are thinking of it that way, but they probably should be.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mahadev Satyanarayanan, also known as Satya. Satya is the Carnegie Group Professor of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University, and one of the true Godfathers of Edge Computing.
Over the course of his multi-decade research career, Satya has pioneered many advances in distributed systems, mobile computing, and IoT, and in 2009 he co-authored “The Case for VM-based Cloudlets in Mobile Computing,” the groundbreaking research paper that led to the emergence of Edge.
In this interview, Satya shares how he started thinking about distributed computing infrastructure for mobile devices back in 1993, how much of his vision has come true in the decades since, and his views on the future of cloud, edge, IoT, and much more.
Key Quotes
“In 1997 we said, given that [the compute capability of] mobile devices is always going to be a challenge, how do we get substantial applications that require compute-intensive processing to run on a mobile device? The answer is to offload computation to the infrastructure. We were the first to demonstrate that capability in a published paper."
“When it comes to user experience, people have learned that it's not the mean that matters, it is the tail. Human user experience is greatly overweighted by a few negative experiences. You may have one hour on a zoom call, and 58 minutes of it may be excellent, but you will remember the two minutes that were miserable. This is generally true for augmented reality, and for all of these other [latency-sensitive] use cases.”
“It's useless to deploy 5G without edge computing. The truth is 5G is only going to improve your last mile quality. That's it.”
“How much end-to-end latency is acceptable is very much a function of the application. But it's a two-way street. The applications that get written depend on what today's technology can offer…If the application's demand gets too far ahead of what the technology can offer, then the application will die because it's not viable.”
“The ultimate beneficiaries of edge computing should make strategic investments that incentivize the creation of edge-native applications, and apply a different success criteria from what is traditionally applied by venture capitalists...That investment is valuable even without a hockey stick growth curve, because you are creating long term demand for the core product that you're creating, which is edge computing itself.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Simon Crosby, CTO of SWIM.AI.
Simon’s impressive resume spans two decades in technology and includes highlights such as co-founder and CTO at XenSource, co-founder and CTO at Bromium, and CTO of Data Center and Cloud at Citrix.
In this interview, Simon discusses how SWIM is solving the problem of stateless computing with its edge intelligence software that focuses on edge-based learning for fast-data and continuous intelligence.
Key Quotes
“We’re moving from a world of big data, where you could reasonably store it all and then think about later, to one where data flows are boundless and you need to process it on the fly. You need to continuously process and analyze streaming data to get continuous intelligence to make your organization more responsible. But the big change is that, whereas before you could reasonably think about big data as a way to store stuff and then analyze it, now you can't.”
“The cloud has been tremendously successful really because of two big things. One is rest, which is stateless computing, and the other one is databases…But the problem with that is that stateless computing is a million times slower than the CPU. A million times slower. That means the difference between hours versus milliseconds in terms of getting results."
“In this era, we have data flows which are boundless. They never stop. And the data within them is of ephemeral value. So you can't store it and get to it later because later it’s useless. What you care about is that some representation can predict what's going to happen next, but you don't care about the past. So we have ephemeral data value and infinite data, and you need to compute on it continuously…and that's a whole new approach, algorithmically and mathematically.”
“We shouldn't apply AI to situations where the marginal cost of being wrong is high…if the cost of being wrong is very high, like somebody dies, just don't do it. But if the cost of being wrong is marginal who cares? Like my Uber may stop at a red light, who cares? Right? We're still better off…There are tons of opportunities for making the world better, where if you're wrong, you don't make it worse.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mahdi Yahya, CEO & Founder of Ori Industries.
Mahdi is an entrepreneur, investor, and former telecommunications executive who spent over 10 years building networks in data centers across the globe.
In this interview, Mahdi articulates his ambitious vision for bringing cloud-native technology to the edge and building a new kind of cloud with the ability to power and scale the new internet.
Key Quotes
- We're on the eve of a new internet… A smart internet that will power hospitals, cities, factories that are becoming increasingly intelligent and autonomous even today. And this internet requires a new cloud to power it, one that will be able to deliver it at scale. At Ori, we are building the new cloud that will allow us to power and scale this new internet.”
- “If you are familiar with the telecom world, you know that there is a very real opportunity right now, and my focus is to seize that opportunity. We are working with the telecoms industry because we know it, I've worked with them for a very long time. I've worked with them from the outside in wholesale, and now in federation, and all these things that we can apply to edge computing. I'm applying my previous knowledge of that space and it's working, we're gaining a lot of traction.”
- “I think the value today is securing the developers because building an edge native developer community is a big thing. We're all working towards that in the end, because that's how we secure the demand for the market, and the moment we capitalize on that demand, then we can scale the market.”
- “For edge to work well, especially in the telecom space, you need a lot of infrastructure changes in place, and 5G is driving those changes. This is where I see the value of 5G for edge: it accelerated a lot of these changes on the legacy networks, and allows us to start running workloads exactly where we need them to run on the network in an efficient, distributed, and clever way.”
- “I think soon the biggest trend in edge is going to be intelligence. How do you make these platforms more intelligent? Because in public clouds today, yes they are building a lot of products that are increasingly distributed, but when you look at this distributed infrastructure over a vast geography, the game is different.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Sarah Beaudoin, Head of Customer Advocacy and Early Stage Marketing at ZEDEDA.
As an early-stage marketer at ZEDEDA, Sarah is tackling the problems of creating awareness and adoption in a burgeoning industry.
In this interview, Sarah discusses her approach to solving those problems, as well as the present and future use cases and challenges of IoT deployment at the edge.
Key Quotes
- “In terms of edge and where we are today, there are a lot of unknowns. There's no prescription for ‘here's how you need to be successful at the edge’…But what we do know is that there are certain principles, like building it on an open architecture so you've got the flexibility to be able to work with whatever hardware and applications and cloud you need to work with.”
- “When it comes to early-stage marketing, what we're doing is a lot of education across the board in terms of what is possible. It's about sharing examples of what customers are doing successfully, and sharing what people are trying to do– being a conduit so people can understand what else is out there.”
- “From an early stage marketing perspective, it's very much about helping you understand what's possible. Here are the things you need to think about that are going to help you, not just today, but that can help you make sure that whatever you're putting in place today is going to expand to what you needed two years.”
- “One thing that we're seeing across the board at the edge is that no single company is going to just own this space. This is an ecosystem of players that are going to work together to build solutions.”
- “Latency always comes up as the number one reason why people think we need edge computing…But latency is not the number one issue for any of our customers. They're doing it because of bandwidth. They're doing it because they have too much data to send all of it to the cloud. It's too expensive. It takes too long. They need to deal with that data at the edge.”
- “The edge has to be open…we believe very strongly in the power of open source and the fact that the edge–because it is so diverse in use cases and applications and hardware–it has to have an open foundation.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between guest host Jacob Smith, VP of Bare Metal Strategy and Marketing at Equinix, and Cole Crawford, CEO and Founder of Vapor IO.
Cole is also the co-founder of the Open 19 Foundation, founding Executive Director of the Open Compute Project, former Chairman of the Open Data Center Alliance, and co-founder of OpenStack.
In this interview, Cole lays out his vision for creating the world’s first intelligent, hyper-modular data center solution, and how Vapor is fixing the fundamental architectural problems of the internet.
Key Quotes
“The internet is still fundamentally broken today if you want to solve for autonomous robotics or autonomous driving or the future state of remote surgery…I think there are ways in which we can enhance the internet that we've built and make it better.”
“If you look back through every successful company, every big dot com, every big Silicon Valley startup, one of the things that they did really well—what ends up being the killer app for everything is economics and the easy button. If you can make it faster, better, cheaper, and you make it easy to consume, you're going to do well. That’s the mission that Vapor is on– to fix the architectural issues with the guts of the internet.”
“I think there are three things [that open hardware does]: lower the technical barrier of entry on the technical front, you increase the pace of innovation, and you democratize or commoditize those things that really have no value.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Alex Reznik, Distinguished Technologist at Hewlett Packard Enterprise, and Chair of ETSI’s MEC ISG.
Alex literally wrote the book on Multi-Access Edge Computing, and as Chair of ETSI MEC he is helping to pioneer the industry standards for enabling the Intelligent Edge.
In this interview, Alex explains the role of standards bodies like ETSI, how standards drive market adoption, and why they are important for the future of the edge intersection between telcos, cloud providers, and developers.
Key Quotes
“In the final state of this MEC public edge computing game, there [will be] a presence from most of the major cloud providers in most of the operator networks.”
“If telcos are going to succeed in capturing value, they will have standards in a space where ETSI MEC plays. It doesn't mean they have to adopt ETSI MEC standards, but they will have to agree on a set of standards in that space. Our value is, we're the only standard right now that plays in that space. So you can either go and form a new group and start from scratch, or you can go with ETSI MEC.”
“With 5G, specifically because so many of the 5G applications need the edge, and edge means location, [the telcos] have leverage. Amazon and Microsoft and lots of other people have to talk directly to the telcos. That's real leverage. Now what are they going to do with it?”
“Show the operators the money. They want to see the money. They don't want to see a strategy talk about how much money the hyperscalers are making on the cloud and what portion of that market they can address and what the TAM for edge computing is...they want to see the money in six months.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Colby Synesael, Senior Equity Research Analyst at Cowen and Company
Colby has been covering the communications infrastructure and telecom services industries as a senior research analyst since 2006, and recently co-authored Cowen’s extensive Ahead of the Curve report on edge computing and the future of the internet.
In this interview, Colby offers his unique perspective on the investment decisions that are powering the growth of edge infrastructure, the elements that will enable True 5G, and how the pieces work together to usher in the fourth industrial revolution.
Key Quotes
“While edge computing is not dependent on 5G, 5G is dependent on edge computing…The edge infrastructure that is obviously tied to edge computing is going to be required to enable what we refer to as ‘True 5G.’”
“When you take all three of those aspects--the bandwidth speed that’s north of a hundred megabits, the latency that’s sub-10 milliseconds, and the massive machine connectivity or IOT—that, combined, is the recipe to enable True 5G.”
“The beauty of True 5G is it's going to enable a lot of new businesses to leverage a wireless network beyond the phone that's never really happened before…And when we talk about True 5G, that's really what we're referring to, and to make that happen, absolutely a physical edge infrastructure is going to have to be out there.”
“With these three key attributes–the speed, the latency, and that massive connectivity–ultimately it enables what many people refer to as the fourth industrial revolution. And that's going to create a whole new set of market opportunities that are going to happen across just about every industry.”
“When you think about the internet in its current iteration, it's really been built for humans…This next iteration of the internet–which very much is tied to edge computing and 5G– is actually going to be built more for machines…It’s going to unleash this huge opportunity, and that altogether is what we refer to as the fourth industrial revolution.”
“The way I think about it [edge] is that it's not an explicit definition. It's not black and white. It's an evolution. It's a concept. And we're already starting to see that happening today. And at some point…we're going to see an inflection point where there finally is enough infrastructure that you start to see some of these newer use cases start to come to market.”
“I don't think of the edge as cannibalizing the cloud. I think of the edge as expanding the TAM–the total addressable market–for the cloud...You're not cannibalizing the demand, you're augmenting it.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Victor Bahl, Technical Fellow and Director of Mobility & Networking at Microsoft Research, and one of the fathers of Edge Computing.
Across a 23-year career at Microsoft Research, Victor has helped shape Microsoft’s long-term strategy through research, industry partnerships, and associated policy engagement with governments and research institutions around the world. His seminal 2009 paper titled “The Case for VM-based Cloudlets in Mobile Computing” spawned the vision for what we now call Edge.
In this interview, Victor shares the story behind the genesis of that paper, and his experience of the evolution of edge in the years since.
Key Quotes
“You can start to see a convergence of sorts between the communication and computing industry, and edge is the catalyst for that…Some sort of convergence is going to happen and it's going to be good because we are using each other's strengths and building on top of it rather than spending time doing the same thing.”
"The question for me as a researcher and a person who tries to think many years ahead was “what happens after cloud?”
“If you think about what the cloud is, the cloud effectively sells you compute and storage…and [we thought] wouldn't it be cool if the cloud not only sold storage, it not only sold compute, but it also sold latency...wouldn't it be cool to have an edge where the latency was small.”
“The internet works on a protocol called BGP, and that protocol has not been optimized for latency sensitivity. It has been optimized for cost sensitivity. So as the packets are routed, they are not routed with latency in mind. That’s why you end up seeing all these problems and jitter, which is a killer for many things.”
“If you actually create software, you can think of a network operating system. And then you can think of an API that you put on top of that. And then on top of that, you've got all these applications and then developers can party. So you're looking at a brand new ecosystem that is now seeded because of edge computing.”
“The way I like to think about it is “Wow, We're getting there! We've gotten there!” Because now when I talk to people, it’s no longer about trying to convince anybody of the need for edge. It seems like people get it…I no longer have to make the case for it. The thing that most people are looking at now is how to monetize the edge–how to actually light these things up.”
“I think that you can start thinking about edge as part of cloud even now. Because Microsoft is invested, we are building it out. We are building out the infrastructure. We are going to make it available. It's going to be there.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Gavin Whitechurch, Co-Founder of Edge Computing World and COO & Co-Founder of Topio Networks
Gavin is a technology analyst, media executive & entrepreneur who started Topio Networks and the Edge Computing World Conference to serve as industry catalysts, helping to nurture the industry and accelerate the markets for Edge Computing, IoT, mobility, and more
In this interview, Gavin uses his overarching perspective on the Edge landscape to give insights about where the industry is headed and how the market for Edge solutions is evolving.
Key Quotes
"I see this increasing maturity in the market and increasing understanding of what edge computing offers. Particularly in the last year, there's much greater awareness in the technology market of why edge computing is important and what uniquely it offers to developers and to technology companies." -Gavin
"I think we’re going to see much more of a distributed compute model–the market will move to a more distributed compute architecture, and it'll get more and more distributed over the next two decades. I would say it's probably actually going to take two decades for that whole thing to play out. I think where we are now is like the early stages of mobile." -Gavin
"IoT is much further up its maturity curve. It was one of those things that perhaps suffered from its own hype…but we're now getting to the large-scale deployments. We've run surveys that show that 2021 will probably be a massive year of adoption for widespread IoT." -Gavin
"I think there is a huge appetite for what edge computing can do…I think we have a more realistic view of things as a technology industry now, and I think that some of the things that are happening around us are actually going to ensure that there is an earlier deployment of those systems." -Gavin
"We’ve spoken to a lot of companies that have said that automation is being accelerated. There's a reprioritization in boardrooms and a realization that…Covid is in many ways accelerating digital transformation and automation." -Gavin
"I think this pandemic may significantly accelerate the deployment of edge computing because of that shift in capital expense, spending by the companies who will benefit from that automation" -Matt
"I can't think of an industry that's this big that has had so much cohesion and acceleration around open source code. There’s this collective mechanism that didn't exist when the cloud was first being formed. There has been so much clear agreement and cohesion on the core supporting technologies that need to be developed and adopted in order for us all to have a platform." -Matt
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mark Thiele, CEO & Founder of Edgevana
Following a 30-year career in IT and a post as the executive director of edge cloud at Ericsson’s Edge Gravity unit, Mark founded Edgevana last year with the goal of disrupting the existing processes for selling and buying co-location, edge, and data center services.
In this interview, Mark discusses his mission of lowering barriers-to-entry to deploy capability at the edge, the economics of shared infrastructure, and why he says the opportunity associated with the edge could be bigger than the cloud.
Key Quotes
“More and more people see the edge as a way to foster engagement with their customers, but also as a way to solve for business problems that people just assumed for years were intractable.”
“Cloud is going to continue to grow...but the edge eventually will be like a combination of enterprise workspace and the iPhone or Android store for applications. And the potential permutations of application and application types that could exist in that kind of future are just way beyond the million-plus apps that you would find in one of the phone stores.”
“I think cloud will play a bigger and bigger part going forward, but it's not because it'll take away from edge.”
“We're entering a world that edge computing is going to open up that I don't think we've ever seen before.”
“There is no way that the infrastructure we currently have at the edge will be enough to accommodate the kind of growth we'll see three to four years from now.”
“The opportunity associated with companies like Vapor IO and Edgevana is how do we actually get more value out of pre-existing footprint, beyond just the capacity of the existing white space floor.”
“I think one of the biggest areas of opportunity is...our ability to recreate life in all of its new forms, not just the remote office, but distributed entertainment in the vehicle, on the road, in the park, at home, whatever the case may be– because once people taste better, there is no going back. I think that that's likely the area where we'll see the most growth and change over the next 18 months.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Chetan Venkatesh, CEO & Co-founder of Macrometa.
Macrometa is "Geo Distributed Fast Data As A Service" for cross-region, multi-cloud, and edge computing apps.
In this interview, Chetan discusses his approach to solving the fundamental problems developers face with cloud-native apps, and how the edge represents a new paradigm for how applications and services are going to be built going forward.
Key Quotes
“While the cloud is great, there's just a whole class of new things that people want to be able to do that the cloud is fundamentally not a sound platform for, [especially] If you really want to deal with things that are time-sensitive.”
“The biggest limitation of our current computing model is that we can only do computing in two places. We can either do it on the device or we can do it in the data center. And there's a vast middle mile between these two places that really doesn't do strategic stuff. It doesn't do anything useful or interesting other than shuffling bits from one place to another. We think that's a really interesting place to bring not just computing, but stateful computing, because the state part of this computing problem is very, very important.”
“One of the hidden parts of the edge that nobody really talks about is if you want multicloud, the edge is the place to do it because none of the cloud providers actually have any interest in multicloud. But the edge provides a really interesting place for us to abstract and arbitrate workloads across any cloud provider based on location, latency and regulatory requirements that the customer has for their applications.”
“There are three different parts (of this industry) that are rapidly maturing in parallel, and it's all converging towards some sort of a singularity that's going to create an explosion of value. The first part is capital–capital is getting much smarter about this problem and why it matters...The second part is customers are getting smarter...The third part is the ugly secret about the cloud: it's easy to get in, but it's really hard to get out, and if you haven't built an application with scalability in mind (things like) sloppy coding really cost you a lot of money in the cloud.”
“The telecom operators really need to supersize their thinking. A lot of them are very much still in a deer-in-the-headlights phase…The place where they're trying to intercept the market has already passed by four years back. If you're not thinking serverless, if you're not thinking developer experience as a telecom operator, I think your big-time screwed.”
“Deploying code is deploying capital. It really is in the cloud world. I think that's actually an emerging area for VCs to look at: analyzing code to figure out what does it cost to run at scale.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jason Shepherd, VP of Ecosystem at ZEDEDA, an edge virtualization company offering solutions for IoT Edge orchestration.
Jason left his role as CTO of IoT and Edge Computing at Dell Technologies last year to join ZEDEDA, with the stated goal of bringing IoT out of its “AOL stage.”
In this interview, Jason discusses the significance of open source collaboration and interconnected ecosystems in scaling IoT and edge adoption.
Key Quotes
“Open source is the new way to drive standards and standards drive scale. If you don't have some sort of open source model going forward, it's going to be difficult, because ultimately it’s about scaling interconnected ecosystems, and that does not work without open.”
“It's about ecosystems. What you want is an ecosystem of lots of participants that all have a shared interest in building a platform upon which they can differentiate. So build one or join one, but either way be a part of one or you're going to struggle going forward.”
“Open source in general has just become the modern way to drive standards. Collaboration and open source– that shared technology investment– it minimizes undifferentiated heavy lifting. Stop doing that and start focusing on value. And it helps you create a snowball effect for standardization. What open source is creating is de facto standards. If you get enough people using something, it becomes a de facto standard. It's just a new way of driving that network effect for standardization
“The next domino that you have to solve is trust. You've got to figure out a way to scale trust over heterogeneous networks or none of this stuff will ever work. It’s about building trust at scale, and using technology to help you.” “Open source is the new way to drive standards and standards drive scale. Do you think Google didn't make money off Android and all the ad revenue that that ecosystem drove?”
“You'll never scale to the grail if you don't take an open path. Even if right now it's about solving simple problems and creating some value, you'll never get to the ultimate goal of entirely new business transformation across many markets if you don’t have an open base.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Dean Bubley, Founder and Director of Disruptive Analysis
Dean is an independent technology industry analyst, futurist, speaker and consultant with over 25 years of experience.
In this interview, Dean gives us his unfiltered views on Edge, IoT, 5G, their intersection with the telecoms industry, and why the future is going to be a lot messier than you think.
Key Quotes
“Everything is going to be a messy hybrid; deeply inelegant and based on sort of midterm pragmatism, messed up by acquisitions, with awkwardness around local authorities and this real mess of overlapping jurisdictions and property rights and incumbency. It's going to be messy.”
“My main perspective is that latency is perhaps not the be all and end all we thought it was initially. And that actually it’s things like data sovereignty, security and control by enterprise, and this idea of interconnection is more important than people thought it was a few years ago.”
“One thing I often have a conversation with people about on edge is trying to calibrate where they are on the scale. I often say that edge has maybe nine orders of magnitude. I've spoken to people who think of edge as a megawatt data center in a tier three city. Down to other people who think it's a milliwatt processor on a chip, on a sensor. And so I'm like, right, you've got nine orders of magnitude, all of which people think that's the edge.”
“A lot of my clients are in telecoms and I think they will end up being both sellers and buyers of edge compute. The telecoms industry has to wake up this idea that actually there’s a marketplace, and sometimes it makes sense to be on the buying side and sometimes it makes sense to be on the selling side.”
“As much as all telcos chest thump about how they're all building out their 5G networks, it's incredibly expensive and the CFO's office often has a very different opinion than the marketing team's office. What I see as a really big opportunity is shared infrastructure because the economics is so compelling.”
“The assumption in the mobile industry is that the edge goes in the network. I actually think that possibly the network goes in the edge, and actually what you might find is these localized data centers that have chunks of each of many different network operators infrastructure in a neutral colo. And so it almost turns the paradigm around.”
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Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Malini Bhandaru, who leads open source IoT and Edge efforts at VMware.
Malini has a Ph.D. in Machine Learning from the University of Massachusetts, and prior to joining VMware, worked on big data for autonomous driving and OpenStack for cloud infrastructure management at Intel.
In this interview, Malini discusses her work in The Open Source Technology Center at VMware, the valuable role that open source plays in IoT and Edge, and interesting use cases for how Edge is solving macro problems.
Key Quotes
"That's the beautiful thing [about Edge] -- it's everything. It just combines everything, whether it's security, cryptography, blockchain, machine learning, or collecting sensor data that comes across to you from different protocols-- it's just everything."
“By making these open source projects and a lot of the infrastructure available, you're opening the flood gates to many more adopters and many more applications and solutions coming to market sooner. “
“The IoT edge market's going to grow to a trillion dollars. VMware is keeping its eye on the future when there's going to be more edge adoption and larger edges.”
“The telco edge is going to be pretty beefy and it will enable applications like virtual reality and augmented reality and connected cars. Some edges are going to be very, very beefy edges with a lot of compute, a lot of knowledge, a lot of storage at that edge.”
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Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.io
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Malini's Blog at VMware
EdgeX Foundry
Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Mehdi Daoudi, Co-founder and CEO of Catchpoint.
Mehdi’s experience in IT leadership at Google and DoubleClick inspired him to build the digital experience platform he envisioned as a user, and Catchpoint has been at the forefront of digital experience monitoring since it’s launch in 2008.
In this interview, Mehdi discusses Catchpoint’s cutting-edge approach to monitoring, the user demands that will drive innovation in the third act of the internet, how the current pandemic will serve as a massive digital accelerator, and much more.
Key Quotes
“Our mission is that we want to monitor as many things from as many locations as possible...and monitoring needs to be part of business strategy, not monitoring for the sake of monitoring.”
“It doesn’t matter what you monitor as long as you monitor it from the right location. So it's very important to monitor things from where the end users are. That's what we focus on at Catchpoint is outcome-based monitoring.”
“We focus on four key criteria. Our technology allows you to look at reachability-- can I get to you? If I can get to you, are you up or down? If you're up, how fast or slow are you? And then how reliable are you? And reliability is extremely important. Reliability means are you able to deliver the same quality of service 24/7?”
“Having a single CDN vendor is no longer an option...I’m surprised by how fast that movement has taken off-- before it was reserved for a few large, super sophisticated companies...but today literally everybody I talk to is doing multi-CDN, multi-cloud.”
“I think this pandemic has shown the need for better data, better network connectivity, better end-user experiences. It is a digital accelerator that no industry has ever seen. It’s a kick in the butt for all of us to innovate, bring solutions, and deliver on this challenge.”
Sponsors
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Catchpoint. Catchpoint gives critical knowledge to help optimize the digital experience of your customers and employees. Learn more at catchpoint.com and sign up for a free trial.
Links
Find Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
Find Mehdi on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mdaoudi
Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Joe Zhu, Founder and CEO of Zenlayer.
Joe founded Zenlayer in 2014 after 8 years of managing global business for ChinaCache, China’s largest CDN provider.
In this interview, Joe discusses Zenlayer’s evolution from edge data center provider to the goal of becoming the world’s #1 edge cloud provider, as well as Zenlayer’s focus on being a truly global company and its unique capability and passion for serving emerging markets.
Key Quotes
“It’s always been my ambition to become a global company, because my passion is to improve the global user experience, not just individual regions.”
“Our choice is to go to emerging markets, so-called underserved markets like India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Russia, Brazil, where the infrastructure is not as good as in what we call mature markets like the U.S., Europe, Japan, Korea. But the user base is huge and their mobile users have dramatically increased year over year, and they have a bigger population as well as a GDP increase.”
“Even though our strategy is to go to the emerging markets first, our customers need global coverage. Because the experience is not just for one location. It's going to be for global users.”
“Obviously we don't know what's the next killer app yet. There will be a new killer app coming online. Is it a different type of e-commerce or different type of social application or different kind of a live streaming? Just imagine in the future, for example, you and I sitting in the same room, like a projection. But that requires a lot of bandwidth.”
Sponsors
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Zenlayer. Improving user experience doesn't have to be complicated or expensive. Zenlayer helps you lower latency with on-demand edge services in over 150 PoPs around the world. Find out how you can improve your users' experience today at zenlayer.com/edge
Links
Follow Matt on Twitter
Follow Zenlayer on Twitter
Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Jacob Smith. Jacob is a co-founder at Packet and currently serves as Vice President of bare metal strategy and marketing.
Jacob co-founded Packet in 2014 with the goal of democratizing hyperscale infrastructure capabilities. Since then Packet has been one of the early leaders in edge computing for business, and earlier this year was acquired by Equinix.
In this interview, Jacob discusses the founding of Packet and the vision for bringing the world of software into the world of physical networks, cloud infrastructure as a craft, what he sees as the next stages of edge computing, and much more.
Key Quotes
“We're inviting more people in, and especially with the edge, it's a huge opportunity to bring the world of software into the world of physical networks that currently power the internet.”
“The idea of the buyer being different, software getting way big, infrastructure getting more specialized-- this all led us to think, ‘How do we get out of the way? How do we focus on delivery model? How do we focus on fundamental things?’ And that's really what we set out to do. That's what led us to the edge.”
“I'll bet on software anytime. I think that properly served up access, innovation will occur. There are a lot of innovation-minded people touching internet infrastructure.”
“Instead of guessing the use cases, I think it's better to look at how to be more open. Look at what the clouds have done super well-- they've created ecosystems. I think we can create the same mindset-- this diverse, totally Wild West, weird, special world called the edge.”
Links
Find Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
Find Jacob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobsmith79/
Sponsors
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Packet, an Equinix company. Packet is the leader in bare metal automation. They are on a mission to protect, connect, and power the digital world with developer-friendly physical infrastructure and a neutral, interconnected ecosystem that spans over 55 global markets. Learn more at packet.com.
Today’s episode features an interview between Matt Trifiro and Galeal Zino, CEO and Founder of NetFoundry.
Galeal has been a founder and executive for the past 15 years, leading teams that developed the world’s largest VoIP network and built global voice and video communications services.
In this interview, Galeal discusses NetFoundry’s mission to enable innovation, the importance of zero trust networking, his views on the future of edge technology, and much more.
Key Quotes:
“At the base layer, NetFoundry enables innovation. Networking gets in the way of innovation. I've been doing it 20 years, and it's difficult, but we take the networking headache out of the equation. “
“If we try to look at edge in a vacuum, like ‘I'm just going to do all my edge computing in the corner of my store-‘ that's probably not really the right vision. You’re going to have to do a whole lot of compute in other places. Edge data centers, core cloud, et cetera. It really is a continuum.”
“The edge is becoming part of the internet…some of the really awesome innovations that are happening on the device or user side of the network-- autonomous cars, robotics, IOT devices-- the power of those innovations is unlocked when it connects to the rest of the innovations that are happening at the cloud”
Sponsors
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, and Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is NetFoundry. What do IoT apps, edge compute and edge data centers have in common? They need simple, secure networking. Unfortunately, SD-WAN and VPN are square pegs in round holes. NetFoundry solves the headache, providing software-only, zero trust networking, embeddable in any device or app. Go to NetFoundry.io to learn more.
Links
Find Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
Find Galeal on Twitter: https://twitter.com/gilzino
In today’s episode, you’ll be introduced to the hosts of Over the Edge: Ian Faison, CEO of Caspian Studios, and Matt Trifiro, Chief marketing officer at Vapor IO, Co-creator of the State of the Edge report, and co-founder of the open glossary of edge computing.
On this episode, Ian and Matt discuss the current state, and future of edge computing, the vision for this podcast, and why now is an inflection point for the Edge community.
Key Quotes:
“Humans operate in ones of seconds or fractions of a second, but for a machine that's actually a glacial amount of time. The kind of latencies that machines care about is milliseconds, microseconds, and sometimes even nanoseconds.”
“In this era that we're entering now, with what we predict to be billions of things that need to be analyzed in near real-time, generating copious amounts of data 24/7, there's a demand for a new kind of processing, and this demand has created this entire market for edge computing.”
“Edge computing is a very important evolution in the internet and the way that we interact with our world using computers.
“Things change quickly, so having a weekly podcast that is authoritative and takes the time and the patience to go really deep with practice area experts is really important…The timing is perfect to come up with a podcast and bring that diversity of voices to a global audience.”
Sponsors
Over the Edge is brought to you by the generous sponsorship of Catchpoint, NetFoundry, Ori Industries, Packet, Seagate, Vapor IO, Zenlayer.
The featured sponsor of this episode of Over the Edge is Vapor IO, the leader in edge computing. We want to be your solution partner for the New Internet. Learn more at Vapor.io
Links
State of the Edge: https://www.lfedge.org/projects-old/stateoftheedge/
Find Matt on Twitter: https://twitter.com/mtrifiro
Find Ian on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ianfaison
What is the edge?
If you ask 100 people to define edge, you might get 112 different answers, but we do know this much: Edge computing represents a long-term transformation of the Internet that could take decades to fully materialize.
One of the most consistent questions posed by our peers has been a very simple one: how big will the edge be? And when will it take off?
We started this podcast to answer these questions and to keep you up to date on all the latest developments in the Edge industry.
On Over the Edge, we bring you the stories of the leaders and innovators who are pushing forward and finding new opportunities.
We will interview corporate leaders, open-source experts, technologists, journalists, analysts, and the community at large.
We discuss topics such as technological innovations, trends, practical applications, business models, and the occasional far-flung theory.
It's a podcast for edge computing experts, as well as those who are simply trying to keep up on the industry.
It’s a podcast for innovators who are looking to their peers for best practices.
It’s a podcast for those who are trying to drive change, rather than merely adapt to it.
So hit subscribe, sit back, and get ready to hear the secrets, strategies, and tactics of some of the best technologists in the world.
Welcome to Over The Edge.