The Bonhoeffer Project Podcast: Recent Episodes

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A show about discipleship, disciple making, and how it all relates to you.

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Dan and Stephen talk about one of the questions they get asked the most in their time of counseling people in their church bodies.

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Brandon Bathauer comes on the podcast to discuss why evangelism and disciplship seem to be mutually exclusive in some churches today, and why they should instead be viewed as inseparable.

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Dan and Stephen discuss a few ways that pastors can intentionally involve themselves in multiple facets of discipleship at their church.

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Dan and Stephen discuss recent controversies and boycotts in the culture and how we can prevent ourselves from losing focus amidst so many distracting events that happen in our world every day.

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Travis Evans comes on the podcast to discuss the growth he has witnessed firsthand not only within his church, but outside of his church via disciples made and sent out by them.

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Tasi Faapouli comes on the podcast to discuss her experience with ministering to another culture within America- specifically her Samoan family- and the challenges that come along with it.

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Dan and Stephen discuss what they've found can pull you away, or distract anyone from disciple making

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Dan and Stephen discuss their top 5 books that have influenced them this year in the realm of disciple-making.

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Join us as we dive into an insightful conversation with Tommy Swindol, who shares his experience of navigating the challenges of transforming an established church while honoring its legacy. Tommy discusses the journey of shifting the church's focus towards a disciple-making culture, providing valuable insights and lessons learned along the way. Gain inspiration and practical wisdom for leading transformative change within your own church community in this captivating episode, "Honoring Legacy and Leading Change."

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Dan and Stephen discuss strategies for preventing discipleship from becoming a program in the western church context.

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Dmitry Tribelsky comes on the podcast to talk about his testimony of how he came from Russia to Israel amidst the war in Ukraine, as well as discuss what making disciples is like in multiple cultures.

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Dan and Stephen talk with Craig Etheredge about the importance of discipling and raising up leaders over time who share your vision so that transitions of leadership are smooth and healthy for the church body.

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Dan and Stephen pick apart the top 3 excuses that people give as to why they can't, or aren't interested in being discipled. 

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Dan and Stephen chop up the question "Is Discipleship ever over?" from their perspectives and experience in Disciple-Making.

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Jim Thomas comes on the podcast to discuss how critical it is that we use the same language in our churches to eliminate confusion brought by how multiple people can interpret the same word differently. 

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Phil Claycomb comes on the podcast to discuss his experience with the Bonhoeffer project, and how it takes time- sometimes even years to shift the culture in a church to a focus on disciple-making.

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Song Kim comes on the podcast to discuss strategies that have proved useful for reaching communities in not only Korea, but also across cultures. 

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Dan and Stephen kick off season 2 talking about the top 10 discipleship lessons they learned from 2022.

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Logan Wolfe comes on the podcast to talk about his 10+ year journey in Provo, Utah making disciples and ministering to Mormons through home churches in the least reached state in the US.

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Shauna Pilgreen, author of the book "Love Where You Live", comes on the podcast to talk about the countless opportunities we have in our daily lives to not only love people, but also to develop relationships in our communities through many small interactions that may look different than blatantly inviting someone to church.

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Dr. Dhati Lewis comes on the podcast to discuss his experience in making disciples in an urban setting and why the local church is meant to be God's greatest vehicle in reaching the community they're in.

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Daniel Im comes on the podcast to discuss the importance of analyzing where your specific church is in regards to growth and maturity when making a plan to implement discipleship, and that no one forumla will be universal to all churches. In fact, it requires a large amount of patience and time when determining what discipleship looks like in your specific church.

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Daniel Im comes on the podcast to discuss the importance of analyzing where your specific church is in regards to growth and maturity when making a plan to implement discipleship, and that no one forumla will be universal to all churches. In fact, it requires a large amount of patience and time when determining what discipleship looks like in your specific church.

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Justin Gravitt comes on the podcast to talk about the most important elements in disciple-making and why Jesus's model is the most efficent for us to replicate.

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Justin Gravitt comes on the podcast to talk about the most important elements in disciple-making and why Jesus's model is the most efficent for us to replicate.

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Sandy Mason comes on the podcast to share why raising Christians up with a correct understanding of what discipleship looks like is imperrative to healthy growth in their spiritual walk.

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Sandy Mason comes on the podcast to share why raising Christians up with a correct understanding of what discipleship looks like is imperrative to healthy growth in their spiritual walk.

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The CEO of Awanas, Matt Markins, comes onto the podcast to talk about the limited time there is to disciple children before they develop their own worldview, and how to bridge the gap between discipleship of our children on Sundays in church, and in the home.

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The CEO of Awanas, Matt Markins, comes onto the podcast to talk about the limited time there is to disciple children before they develop their own worldview, and how to bridge the gap between discipleship of our children on Sundays in church, and in the home.

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Jay McSwain, chaplain for the Atlanta Braves, talks with Dan and Stephen about a life of making disciples in a professional baseball organization and how important one-on-one relationships become when reaching those outside of the church.

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Bill Hull joins Dan and Stephen on the podcast to talk about the different gospels that exist in the world and how they have affected the American church's perception of salvation.

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Kevin Harris shares about his experience with discipling specifically men in the church and some of the challenges that come with it.

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Alice Matagora talks with Dan and Stephen about how critical it is that 'everyday people' know they're also called to make disciples of all nations, and gives practical examples of how to do so through intentional relationships.

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Jim Putman explains that many "Christians" have been discipled more by major news networks than the teachings of Jesus. In this episode he explains to Dan and Stephen how the church can return to a Kingdom First discipleship.

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Chad Harrington and Jim Putman, authors of the book “The Revolutionary Disciple”, talk about why pride is such a major inhibitor of discipleship and how to reveal not only pride in our own lives, but also false humility. 

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Jonathan Matthews talks about his work in Brazil planting churches by making disciples within a community first, then allowing Jesus to build the church through disciples rather than starting with a building and making disciples within it.

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Dan and Stephen get the opportunity to discuss with John Weaver what being a disciple-maker looks like in foreign countries like Afghanistan- where an approach to "normal church" must be restructured entirely to reach different people groups.

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Dan and Stephen talk with Aaron Pierce about what multiplication looks like trickling down 4 generations, and how to to reshape your church culture into one centered around Disciple-Making.

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Dan Leitz and Stephen Kimbrell interview Ron Hunter - Executive Director & CEO of Randall House and D6 Ministries on what discipleship in family life looks like, where it coincides with leading families in the church, and provides practical tips on how to better disciple our own families.

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Hosts Dan Leitz & Stephen Kimbrell interview Jeff Schubert, Spiritual Growth Pastor at Calvary Chapel Oceanside. Jeff shares his own spiritual journey and how God has moved in his life. https://thebonhoefferproject.com/tbpp...

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Dan Leitz & Stephen Kimbrell interview Jasper Zhao as he shares his journey from an atheist in China to a disciple maker in southern California.

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Dan shares his story as Stephen spends some time interviewing him. Dan may even sing a bar or two. Hearing how God moved individuals to vocational ministry is always interesting and you will want to hear Dan’s story.   

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Stephen shares his story as Dan spends some time interviewing him. Have you ever wondered how someone gets to be a church planter? Stephen discusses how God moved in their lives to get them to Irvine.

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As we launch this new season you will notice a few changes in the podcast. Dan Leitz and Stephen Kimbrell are now hosting the show. Today we introduce the new show and its host while Dan and Stephen lay out what the coming season will look like.

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Dan sits down with Bill to discuss Bill's new book. No Longer A Bystander.  As Bill shifts gears and jumps into the "fast lane" you will want to hear what he has to say.  You can pick up your copy https://lifebiblestudy.com/resources/books/bonhoeffer-press/no-longer-a-bystander/  

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As Bill continues to discuss prayer he dives into what we are actually praying for. Is our prayer in line with the heart of God or is it in line with our own desires. Bill looks at this through the lens of Scripture.

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Bill continues his series on prayer by discussing the point of devotion.  Let’s talk about why we should pray and what it accomplishes. If you have ever wondered then listen up and hear what Bill has to say.

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Bill continues his series on prayer by discussing The Disciples Prayer. You may know it as The Lord’s Prayer.  Many of you are reciting it right now just from hearing the name. Let’s look fresh at this commonly known, and mostly misunderstood prayer.

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Bill opens his series on prayer by laying out some fundamentals and challenging the “fact” of who actually prays.  As Bill discusses the differences in prayers it becomes clear that not everything we treat as prayer is actually prayer. Tune in for the rest of the series as he goes deeper into the topic of prayer.

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It is now official and there is a recording to prove it. The Bonhoeffer Project is transitioning leaders. Bill is sliding over to bring Dan in. Don’t worry, Bill will still be around sharing his wisdom. This episode shows the ceremony that took place at Calvary Chapel Oceanside to officially mark the transition.

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The leadership of The Bonhoeffer Project is changing. Bill takes some time to discuss what this transition looks like, how we got to this point, and where we are going. Dan Lietz continues to introduce himself and the love he has for disciple making.

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When disciple making and pastoring collide the explosion is not always what you expect. Hear what Denny Heiberg has to say to Bill about this and what the aftermath of that explosion looks like for him.

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What does it look like to disciple others for a lifetime? Hollis Haff joins Bill to discuss what his life of disciple making has looked like from being a chaplain in the NFL to the pastor of a local church. He also discusses what he is doing with the Bonhoeffer Project and how it has impacted him.

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As we look forward to the first publication of The Bonhoeffer Press we look back at one of Bonhoeffer's classics. No Longer a Bystander coming out early November would definitely have Bonhoeffers' approval. Bill and Brandon weigh in on what Bonhoeffer wrote in The Cost of Discipleship while asking why such a widespread writing has not a greater impact on the world  through the church.

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Since the Gospel we teach and preach determines the disciple we make we must get it right.

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What is happening in The Bonhoeffer Project and where are we going? That is the question on the table as Bill, Dan, and Cindy discuss disciple making and The Bonhoeffer Project. There are so many exciting things happening so listen in to see how you can be a part.

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So many leaders can sense there is something wrong with what is going on in the Church and what we call disciple making. Bill, Dan, and Cindy discuss what brought them to where they are and the implications of that. Can’t you feel that little rub right now?

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Bill interview Dan Leitz today on the show. Bill digs deeper into who Dan is and why he does some of the things he does. You don’t want to miss Dan's story.

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If we are going to see change then we have to have leaders step up and take their roles. Bill discusses how at The Bonhoeffer Project we help leaders become the disciple makers they were intended to be.

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Bill discusses the lack of disciple making in the church. We say we want to change the world, but we don’t want to do it the way Jesus told us too. What we do really does show what we believe.

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Bill goes deeper into the issues with the corruption of the Gospel. In this live recorded show Bill lays out the various false Gospels being taught and how they are impacting disciple making in the church.

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Bill discusses the current problem in disciple making in the church at a live conference at New Community in Wexford, PA. Bill lays out where the Gospel has shifted away from what Jesus taught. More to come on how we can move this back to Jesus’ teaching.

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Bill continues to work on the postmodern mind to show them the need for redemption. There may even be a quote from Joe Walsh, theologian and spectacular guitarist.

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Redemption is necessary and Bill takes some time in this episode to discuss why that is. He also looks at how this has only in recent history become a controversial statement. Are our contemporary minds able to grasp the truth?

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Bill continues his discussion of the evangelical mind and if it truly is being wasted. With his ongoing commitment to learning and education Bill definitely has a dog in the fight. Listen to gain some clarity on what is actually being said.

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Bill flies solo in this episode as he discusses the mind of evangelicals. As he refutes some misunderstandings from an article with the same title he shows that the secular and not the evangelical mind is the one being wasted.

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Today the team discusses the danger of the Gospel Ameicana and the poison it truly is to the Kingdom. Bill, Dan, and Cindy break down the Gospels so you can see what is Kingdom and what is Americana.

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How did we come to the point where the sin and not the sinner is what is being justified? We are there, but the Church has been there before. We as we have done in the past have to make the difficult decisions to move back to the way of the Gospel. Bill, Cindy, and Dan tackle this difficult topic.

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If the message of the church fails to reach the secular arena we have failed. Bill, Dan, and Cindy discuss whether this is a delivery method (people) issue or the manufacturer (the Church). The question is not if we have penetrated the culture, but why we have not.

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Bill gets dressed up to welcome Cindy and Dan as cohost to discuss reality. Since our Western lifestyle has been built on the Bible and its teachings we destroy our foundation when we deconstruct the truth it holds. This is the reality we are in and it is clearly a chaotic one.

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We did not get the chaos we have by accident. The choices we made got us where we are. Bill, Dan, and Cindy discuss how we got here and what it means for us now.

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Dan and Cindy join Bill once again to discuss the chaos that is our current reality. They discuss what is most under attack of our core Christian values and how to bring some order out of the chaos.

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Bill along with our co host Cindy Perking and Dan Leitz discuss the reality around us. They give us the warning of Scripture to not put our trust in the powerful. How do we put our trust in God and see through the falsehoods to the truth?

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Since we have moved from news to entertainment how can we get back? Bill, Dan, and Cindy discuss what it might take to come back to real news, and what you need to realize in our current reality. You will benefit from taking the three reading suggestions as well.

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Bill, Cindy, and Jim discuss the way the message of the Gospel is communicated. As they dive into this they try to sort out the reasons the message has not spread as it should. This points to issues with the messengers which become clear in the discussion.

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Bill, Cindy, and Jim dive into the current culture of softness in the United States and how we got here. Questions abound as to the role the Church played in this and how we might stem the tide. There is even some discussion about the rapture.

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Bill Hull talks about books he read during 2020 and he would like to recommend to you. Cindy Perkins and Jim Thomas also join in to discuss some good reads from the year. Do you have a book you have not finished? Bill shares some books he has started yet has not completed.

Bill's Novel for the interested – The Disciple: Better to Do Evil Than to Be Evil by Bill Hull.

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We can't ignore all the events going on around us. When a secular worldview and a biblical worldview collide how do we respond? How can we engage in the battle that is raging around us while still bringing honor to God? Listen to Bill talk about how the Prince of Peace will handle such things. Cindy Perkins and Jim Thomas join Bill to see if we can’t figure out how to bring some order to all the chaos.

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How do we replace cyber culture when we disagree? Bill tells us reason is overrated. We make decisions on our own that may or may not be rational. We rationalize after the fact as we need too. This is pushing us further from the biblical world view. So what can we do about that? Listen in and figure out. Reach out to The Bonhoeffer Project and see how you can join the battle to prevent this from continuing.

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What will we do to maintain our social standing and to go along? Our silence is deafening and at some point must end. Some have stormed our Bastille, but what will we do to maintain our long term voice of truth. Our freedom of speech is being taken away as we quietly sit by and watch.

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Who has the right to bring a “Reckoning” to evangelicals? Bill discusses a recent article with Andy Stanley and explains that it is not those who are currently attempting to make such statements. The Reckoning: https://thebonhoefferproject.com/reckoning

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Help people cut through the political rhetoric and see the truth of Scripture. We are called to make disciples and that will take the Babel out of Babylon. When pastors set down the teaching of Scripture and pick up only politics we leave behind God’s call. We might be living as exiles in Babylon, but our call has not changed. Stay faithful to the Scripture.

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Will we stand up for what is right or will we speak up? Bill discusses the question of when to stand up. Not the easiest question to answer once one begins to think. Maybe that is why so many don’t have a difficult time answering the question…they don’t think.

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Bill speaks to the issues of the day. Silence in the face of evil is affirmation. Will we see the new face of evil before it is too late, or must we wait on the bodies to pile in the streets?

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The World has lost its mind. Bill discusses how fiction has replaced truth and how critical theory has so dramatically impacted what is going on around us.

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Bill takes us on a deep dive past all the layers to get down to what controls so much of what we think and do. Critical Theory Put on your SCUBA gear for this one ladies and gentlemen.

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Bill discusses soft totalitarianism and what seems to be coming our direction. Are we missing the signs of what is really going on, are we in denial, or do we just not care?

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Have our creations and organizations gotten in the way of our mission? Bill discusses how we may be more proud of our work and committed to that than we are the task of making disciples. Listen with open ears. https://youtu.be/tRHVMi3LxZE

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How are we to actually understand the Kingdom of God, and why do we get it so wrong so many times. Bill discusses the current misunderstanding while shining light on the past misunderstanding of the Kingdom of God.

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What is your best argument with God? What is your best argument for God to keep you here serving Him? Bill discusses making the mission of disciple making your best argument with God.

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As we call out the idols we must include the intoxicated mind. Bill walks through the thought of how new is the only good and how we have missed so much for so long or did we…

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Bill continues callin out the idols in our lives. Today he deals with Romans and the idol of sex and the sexual revolution.

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Bill continues to call out the idols. Last episode was the idol of no God and this week it is the god of self.

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In order to impact the culture the Church needs God. In order for the culture to continue the culture needs God. It is the responsibility of the church to make disciples to help this happen. Bill discusses the track of season 2 and explains why God is needed.

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Know your enemy. We are in a battle, but we better know who our enemy is before we plan an attack. In this episode Bill outlines who the enemy really is and begins discussing what deconstruction looks like.

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Our continued holy huddle to avoid the culture has allowed an empire to rise up around us while we watched. It is now our responsibility to call out this empire and begin the process of deconstruction. Hear how Bill agrees with Paul in the fact that We destroy every proud obstacle that keeps people from knowing God.

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We have lost the mind while pretending to have won the souls. Clearly we have won neither. In this first episode of Season 2 Bill lays down the truth about where we really are and how we got here.

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Bill and Brandon discuss how we can impact the culture around us. They look back to see how our imitation of the early church might be useful today.

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Terry Looper began and grew a successful business at just 40 hours a week. Bill probes the ins and outs of this amazing story.

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Bill and Cody Nath talk with Bill about how to glorify God in and through your work. This much needed discussion brings to light the true redemptive nature of work.

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What does it look like to be a product of discipleship and take that into the workplace. Bill and Kyle discuss this while telling some stories you will want to hear.

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Bill and Greg discuss work and how it impacts and is impacted by living out a relationship to Jesus.

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How we enter into death says much about who we are in Jesus and the transformation that has taken place in our living. Bill and Brandon discuss Bonhoeffer’s last days and even look to their own desires in a legacy.

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Learn from Bonhoeffer in prison as Bill and Brandon discuss how he lived in captivity during his final time on earth. How did the spiritual disciplines play a role in his prison life?

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Bill and Brandon discuss the many rolls or Bonhoeffer and how those rolls along with the actions taken in each impact our perspective on him and how we might act.

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What does obedience have to do with Bonhoeffer on discipleship? Hear what Bill and Brandon have to say on this and some exegesis of Psalm 91. Is Psalm 91 promise or principal?

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Has what we call discipleship prepared people to walk through the harsh reality life brings? Bill and Brandon look at Bonhoeffer to find out the answer.

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A non transformed church is losing ground in the culture and in its own membership. Bill and Brandon discuss the outcome of non-discipleship.

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Bill and Brandon weigh in on what Bonhoeffer wrote in The Cost of Discipleship while asking why such a widespread writing has not a greater impact on the world through the church.

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The power and influence wielded by a young Bonhoeffer tends to destroy men and make them seek only more power. Bill and Brandon discuss why this was not the case with Bonhoeffer.

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What made Bonhoeffer so special. Bill and Brandon take a look at his status, brilliance, confidence, and courage.

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Bill and Brandon get serious about what preaching is and what a disciple making pastor looks like in an age of entertainment.

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Bill and Brandon get serious about what preaching is and what a disciple making pastor looks like in an age of entertainment.

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Scripture leaves us with tension, and in this episode Bill and Brandon discuss how to make disciples living in that tension.

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Bill and Brandon discuss the parable of the sower and the seed as it relates to disciple making. They remind us it is time to start investing in those fourth soilers.

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Listen to Bill and Brandon interview Bobby on what a Disciple Making movement is, why we have none in North America, and what we must do.

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How do we balance the discipline of Spiritual Disciplines while not becoming legalistic, but yet see transformation? Listen in as Bill and Brandon discuss how you will have to slow down if you want to run with the horses.

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Bill and Brandon poke the evangelical Bear with no fear as they discuss Salvation and the role of Discipleship in Salvation.

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Listen in as Bill and Brandon analyze the bad religion that has led so many to not follow Jesus while claiming the name of Jesus.

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Are churches in America willing to repent of their “Gospel Americana” and go back to following Jesus or are they too afraid to do the most difficult work of change? Bill and Brandon dive in to sort some things out, and there may even be a comparison of Mr. Rogers and Nick Saban (Roll Tide).

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Bill and Brandon discuss the crumbling of the Judeo-Christian foundation of our culture and how this is a reminder for us to reclaim what the Gospel actually means. Follow Jesus….

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As Bill has a conversation with Robby Gallaty it is more like listening in on close friends than a podcast.

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Bill and Jim get open and honest about the reality of church and disciple making. Jim shares about an absolute hero of the faith.

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Bill has Ben Sobels lay out the Doctrine of Ungrace and then unpacks it with special guests Matt Kerns, Sandy Mason.

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In our first ever live recording recorded at the Bonhoeffer Symposium we hear from Bill, Jim Thomas, Carmelita Boyce, and Chris Page about what is going on in the front lines of discipleship in the United States and the United Kingdom.

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Shut up and Pray – The Spiral of Silence and the Loss of Freedom of Speech and Religion.

Have we reached a Bonhoeffer moment? A moment to declare truth, regardless of what it might cost us? Hear what Bill and Brandon have to say in this episode of The Bonhoeffer Show.

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In this episode, Bill and Brandon discuss if we have lost the culture, if we ever had the culture, and why it should matter to you.

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With a little help from special guest Jane Hull, Bill and Brandon dig into the shortage of Disciples in the world and what to do to begin to change this issue in the church. Are you willing to do what it takes?

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Bill and Brandon spend time dealing with Sola and the cost of “Cheap Grace” handed out by so many with so little concern for souls.

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The character and the fortitude of the leader matters in Disciple Making. Bill and Brandon walk through becoming the leader shaped by the mission.

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Bill and Brandon challenge leaders to think past the next disciple to the process of change needed to create a true Disciple Making Movement in their own sphere of influence.

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You can't make it until you know what it is so listen in as Bill and Brandon help us define what a Disciple is. 

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Since so many have a difficult time finding the "gospel" in the Gospels Bill and Brandon try to lay out what the Gospel truly is and a little of what it is not.

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Bill and Brandon discuss the allure of worldly success as compared to the call of making disciples as pastors and leaders are bonbarded with "christian pornography".

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"All who are called to salvation are called to discipleship, no exceptions, no excuses."