Office 365 Distilled: Recent Episodes
Steve & Marijn
This podcast is presented by Marijn and Steve; two experienced Microsoft 365 and SharePoint consultants. In each podcast you will get a smile or two with a chunk of interesting and practical help in Microsoft 365. Then you get introduced you to what we hope is a Whisky you have not tasted before.
October13th 2023 @SouthCoastSummit https://www.southcoastsummit.com/workshop/practical-microsoft-365-baseline-governance/
In this final Wee Dram for August, we look at the 11 steps that form part of the Governance Workshop from the South Coast Summit on Friday, 13th of October in Farnborough UK.
This is a 10 minutes piece of fun but full of Golden Nuggets if you are looking to try and do governance in your organisation. 11 steps in 10 minutes and if they make sense but the workshop in the diary and join us for a day of Governance fun.
The boys get distracted as always as the Autumn Speaker circuit comes alive. The conclude with Governance at the South Coast Summit (join their workshop at Practical Microsoft 365 Baseline Governance – South Coast Summit ) Recorded live at Marijn’s place, where the boys are constantly distracted by the world walking passed...
Steve’s memory is again letting him down as he tries to remember the name of the artist he saw a week ago because the boys have been singing “Changes’ from Mr David Bowie since they suggested today’s subject.
So, the subject is change, and specifically, they discuss the implications of Outlook and MS Team having huge updates in the same timeframe.
The Podcast looks at current changes creating problems and differences in both clients to identify scope changes. Some will be improved, but this is a new canvas for Outlook and format for MS Teams, so some features may not be available when it goes live and be added later.
The Point of this podcast is to look at how to manage this change... we know change is constantly changing when considering Enterprise Apps.
The boys develop some great nuggets on how a model might look based on some change metric... Change Points!!! You heard it here first...
The Change model is about packages balanced against the change needs based on the change required in the application's upgrade size.
Several criteria can create the model. so Steve and Marijn discuss the main ones that should be considered.
Steve Changed the name of XLA to ELA’s, but the basis is still the same, value is based on how users perceive and manage the change... the ultimate way to measure the success of change.
Whisky eventually hits the menu, and Steve asks one of the speakers from the NY Community event a few weeks ago to find us a bottle we have been looking to taste for some time. Today we taste Metallica’s Blackened whiskey, a blend from Dave Pickerell, one of the last blends he created before he passed away. One of America’s greatest Master Distillers who changed Markers Mark from 175,000 bottles per year organisation to a million bottles per Distiller.
This whiskey has been on Steves’s list for some time so here it is, and well there is a difference of opinion...
This batch of Whisky has its own playlist that is played to the Whisky during the Maturation process and if you want to listen to the playlist... here is the link. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1w6KeG09G0VWrRRkkLZet0?si=972b68b77ae9468e
Check it out.
Getting ahead of themselves, this episode was recorded at the end of July for the August release due to holidays etc. Before looking at Our governance model defined by DRAAP, which is
define | review | adapt | approve | publish.
We are looking for replacement names, all ideas are welcome. So the boys break down each of these stages in the model and cover the value that each section brings to the process of Governance.
https://www.southcoastsummit.com/workshop/practical-microsoft-365-baseline-governance/
If you want to come and discuss this as part of our governance workshop, join us at Sout Coast Summit in October.
The first important subject is Methodology or a Model, and the decision is not to create a podcast on which is most accurate...
Using some real examples, we look at current customers and which state of the DRAAP process they are at and the next stages to be completed. The process does allow you to define at what stage each of the governance documents is at and what the following stage should include. A way to identify the value.
Risk and value are included In the conversation, and Steve thinks this is a key attribute to define the protection required verse the effect on the end users. Governance that drives users away from using the product is not the target.
Then the boys drink a local Whisky from Mechelen in Belgium. Het ANKER’s Molenberg distillery for their anniversary edition
Continuing their Wee Drams on thei new Governance workshop for South Coast Summit
October13th 2023 @SouthCoastSummit https://www.southcoastsummit.com/workshop/practical-microsoft-365-baseline-governance/
The Boays introduce DRAAP which will get a few modules in their course as they talk about how practically you need to get to be succesful in introducing Governance as an active subject into your organisation
The boys get distracted for the first 10 minutes covering Their speaking events, Governance at the South Coast Summit (join their workshop at www.southcoastsummit.com ) and the pricing release of the Co-Pilot and value. They decide to read the Whiteboard and realise they have some subjects to discuss...
A list on the whiteboard of Roles is associated with managing and running M365. Which role would you like to do and are the best at? Steve and Marijn run through the list, select their dream role in M365, and say how it works and why it might not... Check out why they both think that CISO would be a great role...
We finish with a review of the position of the roles immediately after tasting a very unusual single cask from Deanston. Bourbon barrel about seven years in the barrel and hand filled at nearly 62%vol. It was a brilliant drink; pity I could only get a 20cl bottle...
October13th 2023 @SouthCoastSummit https://www.southcoastsummit.com/workshop/practical-microsoft-365-baseline-governance/
In this special Wee Dram which is primarily notification to join Steve and Marijn on a Governance workshop. Marijn is in the Mic Drop mood... check out his great maximum of 6 words responses on Governance.
A quick boost of Marijn and Steve’s humour looking at Why we do Governance, How we do Governance and the problems associated with it.
In this special podcast, we have changed a few things... The Intro does not blow your ears out at the start... You can win a place at our 5th Birthday celebration with a simple HashTag and learn about Governance and Change on New Stream... EP116 is full of great information and a Free Dinner. Finishing with a great idea generated by a 21 Year Old Whisky from our sponsor Secure-Mail-Merge by Alex Duggleby
Steve has an idea that looks to combine your Governance plans with ADKAR and Marijn likes the picture, but we disagree with the Model and do not find agreement. So you guys get one Model and 2 plans for implementation... you can choose the Marijn way or the Steve way... Such great Podcast Value!
The podcast finished with the knowledge that the 21-year-old Austrian Whisky from the SecureMailMan Alex Duggleby as it created an excellent review of the Governance/Change idea and rounds it off with a new idea. This is Whisky Value Stream in action.
This is a very late podcast because Steve #ScrewedUp and the great interview with Alex Duggleby needed more work than usual. But it is finished, Alex sounds great, nearly as good as his M365 Secure Mail Merge App. Steve and Marijn are drinking Austrian Whisky provided by Alex as a Sponsor for this episode, where we introduce what we think is a great tool to assist in communications and adoption.
Alex Duggleby joins the boys to talk about his career in development, the background in his new Mail Merge Application and his thoughts on developing inside the M365 apps and creating secure tools that do not need to take any data outside the M365 ecosystem.
Advanced mail merge for Outlook for Windows, Mac and Web. (securemailmerge.com)
Steve talks about his direct experience with the tool after using it to manage CVTV (Commsverse TV) interviews and communications for this MS Teams event in the UK.
Steve gets confused, and Marijn takes the lead as the Boys introduce you to the idea that for December, we will bring you a new Golden Nugget podcast every day... 3-5 minutes and EP600 Finishes with Steve spilling the beans on what to expect tomorrow.
Lots of chat about conference seasons starting and some advice about not going to a conference and missing all the cool stuff because Mobile working never stops.
Speaking engagements are discussions from Copenhagen to Vegas, and the boys get hung up on GDPR and admit they know nothing about what needs to be protected and decide it’s a grey area they don’t know anything about.
Different types of Governance cover the vast array of applications and content within the M365 ecosystem Before looking at the default governance processes and audiences.
Then the boys go old and taste an 18-year-old Whisky from one of the Distilleries in the most northerly part of Scotland. An 18 BalBlair.
Marijn takes the Catalyst IDEA model from Microsoft to the next level looking at D for Design. This is a great way to look at Digital Transformation in your business
You are designing a compelling case for change by discussing business and technological impact. During this, you'll quantify the ROI and financial benefits that include revenue growth, cost savings, and employee efficiencies.
This phase is about numbers confirming that your Transformation will have value and improvement. Understanding the current costs allows but to understand the scope of improvement through solid numbers... quantifying improvements.
Based on the successful ADKAR Podcast series from Office365Distilled, this workshop by Steve Dalby and Marijn Somers (MVP) looks at the practical sides of Adoption and Change.
Focusing on communications and Key messages, Steve outlines the model developed by the boys that give you the tools to plan and build your communications around Awareness and Desire. This model gets you 30% of the way forward in preparing the company for the change.
The boys reminisce about their last months of work and explain the issues and effectively the boys do what they do best… which is talk… after all they are sitting at a bar enjoying a relaxing end-of-day drink… Office365Distilled is about two guys standing at a bar talking crap… well this podcast is proving that definition right!
Wendy, the dog, is active tonight and wants to get involved…
We originally wanted to talk about loop… but Marijn decided he will play interviewer and keep the conversation technical, and we have the Life of a Consultant in action.
So Steve tells the world about a current project to introduce MS Teams calling and migrating from SfB and the things that needed attention, and where the project needs to go to support Voice calling. Some strategy discussions about how and what are planned next on the project.
Marijn identifies that Steve was using a classic change strategy “Add Crappy Legacy tech to improve desire”
The conversation continues and Steve has worked out that over the last few months his consultant head has been in the game more that the boy’s thoughts initially.
So welcome to the Marijn Somers live Interview…. Until they swap roles and Steve takes over.
Subjects discussed in this Episode
MS Teams Calling | Moving from Baseline security through Evolution to the ‘Rethink’ | Use of OneDrive in the wrong way | Loop is discussed but in the context of delays
The future is discussed how long it now takes Microsoft to release new features…
So eventually Loop is discussed, which was the original topic agreed upon by the boys and whilst they both love the concept that an active component is available across several applications. Some discussions take place about if a Fluid File (the file type for Loop) should be saved centrally…
What can go wrong with introducing new features and functionality from the Microsoft365 set of applications?
In this episode of Office365Distilled, Steve gives Marijn something to look forward to as he starts the podcast with a howl...
Then the conversation turns to a lot of golden nuggets as areas of change risk are identified before moving to look at where people can be forced... or encouraged to do things differently.
Enjoy everyone, and maybe we will see you at the MGM Grand in December at the great Las Vegas... the place on earth for conferences...
Recorded live from The Ageas Bowl or, more specifically, the Hilton hotel at the Rose Bowl, Southampton, Hampshire.
It sounds like the record sleeve from a 1970 rock album, which is a good description of what Steve and Marijn did on a quiet Thursday afternoon during the Ignite 2022 Microsoft Conference Day at the South Coast Summit. This podcast recorded live was a great success providing the audience that Marijn and Steve sometimes miss when recording in Steve’s office on a Tuesday evening.
Check it out as the 100th birthday party edition takes shape, and the audience seems to bring out the worse in both of them, and secrets are revealed about how Offcie365Distilled.com is put together and the huge amount of hours that go into each episode to bring you the magic that is the Office365Distilled Podcast from Marijn Somers and Steve Dalby.
Steve brings together his series of Wee Drams about preparing for Improvement with the final episode called Innovate everywhere
Innovation is not always a ‘Giant Step for Mankind’. Sometimes Innovation is introverted and focused on a small audience. We do learn that, of course, M365 innovation is driven by our own User Stories sent to Microsoft and if it is something that the user base needs, then it gets built.
We take a quick check on the current status of MS Team changes as this podcast is recorded a few weeks ahead of Ignite 2022, when we do expect some large differences in terms of Mesh for Teams that will be across the enterprise but compare this to a change in Excel (check out EP99 of O365Distilled) that will be for very few people.
Not every change is giant... many are small and focused. But it is innovation, and we should be awaiting that something new in our own organisation feels like innovation that has value that needs to be managed as a change.
Microsoft IDEA structure for Digital transformation is supported by a web site and full program documentation. Marijn starts with ‘I ‘ from I.D.E.A., the Microsoft Catalyst IDEA framework.
‘I‘ stands for Inspire, and in this wee dram, he takes you through the 4 steps to success with inspiration and understanding of the customer’s expectations for the process, business expectations and what their next step might be.
Look to the future and prepare for Marijn’s next Wee Dram on this subject... Design.
These notes will be short because this EP99 podcast is simple and focused on a single subject which for the boys is very rare...
Talking about Excel and when excel was introduced to the market and how Steve and Marijn thought they would have a great case for moving people from Excel to SharePoint lists and find that maybe there are not many even no, specific reasons to drive users away from excel to M365 Lists
The session turns out to simply select the best examples of using Excel and M365 lists without saying one is better than the other.... It just shows that even the most experienced and best can make mistakes.
Steve keeps asking the hard questions, which lead us to understand Lists more and their roles in the M365 ecosystem.
The podcast’s ending is great because Gianni, who won the One Inch Party, sent over a great sample of Aberfeldy 16 year old, which was worth a taste (he also sent over a sample of Cruach-Mhone from Bunnahabhain), all very much appreciated.
The podcast where Steve has a great idea on site names and waffles on without a conclusion.
Where Marijn says, ”Sorry, keep going I will interrupt you later” and then “ Hold on and let me continue” and it is decided Marijn can interrupt as much as he likes but Steve has to do as he is told…
Our Sponsor Braeburn Whisky for this episode gets a great mention https://braeburnwhisky.com/
The boys start on the Roadmap workshop that defines the order of products that will be released and feeds back to the team what order they will process the project. Roadmap Strategy is required and agreed by the business… then the boys get stuck on questions around what the minimum settings are… and Steve has a Daaa moment when he works out Marijn is right…
Governance workshop takes frontstage and arguably the most important as so much is decided within this and getting then documented means you know so much about the project already
Content workshops are discussed that incorporate so much decision making… The Elephant in the room ‘ Content Types’ hits the discussion with a few erm and aaass when Steve rounds out what is needed to get started and define the baseline
The content workshop identified so much about the future of the project, migration, Change and Adoption Taxonomy strategy and some search aspects of the project…
Portals are mentioned and Wendy wants to get involved… she has something to say… and then Steve puts Marijn on the spot with portals. It is agreed an Intranet is a portal and opens up a bunch of things to decide like audiences, Viva Connect etc. all associated with publishing content…
Migration cannot be forgotten so they do list the things that is required to ensure migration takes place… then some workshop around servicing the M365 environment with the helpdesk etc.
After tasting Isobel Gowdie a Linkwood 14 year old cask strength whisky from Cask88 https://cask88.com/witches/
Steve finishes with a few thoughts on the Vision workshops and suggests that Marijn is right but only if we accept there are more than one Vision workshops required to make this work and get it right….
We are all looking to achieve value in our work, and M365 provides a great opportunity for the IT team and the end user to redefine the value that technology at a personal level can deliver. This Wee Dram from Steve looks at some of the ways IT and Business can work together to get the best from M365 as it permeates through the organisation.
Check out 20 minutes of chat with Steve and see if any of these ideas can add value to your work.
Marijn is excited about his Envisioning sessions to set up the company on a journey. Still, during the discussion, we wonder if it might not get people excited when it could be several months before they get to try anything. So, whilst very important, timing how you communicate the company vision might not be the first workshop you do. However, starting to set expectations at the C-Level and Senior management level might be a good idea.
Starting with the infrastructure workshop, they get hooked up in discussions about the naming of tenants (we are still not sure who is correct). Still, the thought is to get the infrastructure workshop completed early on with the right people in the groups. Many decisions at this level define the coming workload.
It’s also worth thinking strategically about services, multitenancy etc.
Identity and a few others will cause issues like who owns the user’s Admins, AD admins, HR etc., so be prepared and ensure all parties are in the same room.
Some words are spoken about the people involved and how they might be upset of losing control to the cloud etc. So, pull in a great partner or Microsoft to ensure all the infrastructure teams have a level of comfort.
There is a disagreement (always fun) and Marijn starts Steve thinking about which comes first, the Adoption or Email or Supporting workshop to understand the new way of IT supporting the new cloud services
Road mapping is important to understand where you are in the process of changing the company and the way of working and aligning development plans to power platform etc., or if you will remain with existing dev tools.
The idea of splitting the Adoption and communications and when to start the personae decisions and special needs so maybe the adoption and change conversation is needed to baseline the governance.
Identifying the user-focused people for the Ambassadors and core users is important, but then we need to think about the end user-focused workshops so that become Episode 98...
The Whisky plays memory games with Steve after Marijn asks him to dig deep into the memory banks to identify the point when he realised, he loved Irish whisky. That took him to an Irish bar in Rome.
A Black Bush 80/20 PX Sherry Cask Reserve, has a good recommendation for a great price with a complex flavour... well worth looking for a bottle
Keeping Change and Adoption Real: The Workshop ... Come and see us live this year...
South Coast Summit: October 14th 2022
Tickets:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/keeping-change-and-adoption-real-1-day-workshop-tickets-359518869617
M365 Conference – Las Vagas: December 9th
Register:https://www.m365conf.com/#!/workshop/Keeping%20Change%20and%20Adoption%20Real:%20The%20Workshop/5553
And on the podcast...
Steve and Marijn kick off their Summer podcasts with a quick check on their Vacations and a Proud Dad tells you about his daughter obtaining her Degree and the graduation parties
Marijn lists all the injuries he was plagued with on the dangerous holiday park he stayed at in France. Steve did a road trip around the south of England and Wales.
The boys have a busy end of the year with presentations and workshops in Belgium, the Netherlands, Copenhagen, UK and USA (Vagas Baby...)
Microsoft put Viva Goals into GA this week, so Steve and Marijn start talking about OKRs, the business's implications, and all that you need to prepare for.
Goals will allow the organisation to be transparent in what Objectives the board has decided will drive the business forward. Recent statistics from Microsoft show that 77% of the workforce needs more purpose in their work. Viva Goals could be a way to change that statistic to the most positive.
Steve considered the old MC server system, which included 3 servers that started with the High-level programs followed by the Projects and then the client tools. You could not create a project unless it was a vital aspect of the program and connected. This allowed a roll-up of the program costs and delivery.
The conversation comes to the most significant consideration, which is the fact that to make this work, it requires buy-in from the highest level to the lowest action.
Marijn and Steve finish by going Welsh and tasting the Penderyn Hiraeth No8 in the 50 special release whiskies coming from the South Wales distillery in the Brecon Beacons. Steve admits to not being the biggest fan of their standards but this one is lifted above many.
With the possibilities of empowering the business to create their own Intranet site that is based on the same template with Governance built in.
Building a SharePoint site for the end user is like buying yourself a new 40th Birthday cigar lighter that is complex and needs a few You Tube videos to ensure you operate it correctly. Your Corporate SharePoint look book might just be the tool to do that.
With the opportunities to automate your site creation by the users from the press of a button Marijn extends the concept to consider Governance capabilities that can add variety to the templates enabling both functionality and content protection based on the level of assurance the site requires.
This is the link to the Brainstorm Infographic used in the podcast, and at the end of the page is the link to buy a bottle of the great whisky we taste in this podcast, sponsored by Braeburn Whisky.
BrainStorm - 33 Ways To Unlock More Software Value.
Steve and Marijn took this sheet and pulled numbers from a bag to select random values to apply to the Values sheet provided by Brainstorm Inc.
Use Polls: Marijn immediately thinks Dancing Poles and Steve reminds every one of their brilliant ideas to create a Gentlemen’s Club together mode image.
Microsoft have just released a new update to make it easier for polls to be included in meetings.
Build Activities: Steve Takes this as an opportunity to consider gamification and the various performance scores available from Microsoft. They are all activity-based actions that generate indications that the tools are being used and actions are being taken by
Explain Why the Change: Reference is made to the SouthCoast Summit where Steve and Marijn will be running a workshop at this event on Saturday 15th October
Bring in an Expert: Bring in an Expert or call a friend was referenced and Steve has an opportunity to make his favourite Experts quote (listen to check it out) These people bring in their experience and ability to lead but Steve turns this around a little by saying for a M365 Project The Business are the experts!
Be available for Help: Being available is possibly the best way to add value to the business. Steve asks Marijn how he ensures people have access to the resources that deliver success. A single point of contact is crucial for value which can be an email address or a SharePoint site or regular AMA sessions.
Learn what your users need: Understand the User stories from a deep dive into the business getting to the coal face and describing what the users want to have delivered that will deliver value. Marijn described an approach used previous with a Mnemonic based on a Spy, in Dutch.
Finally, Marijn points out that the value is what the user NEEDS not what IT thinks they want!
Digitize Training: Marijn talks about learning pathways and Steve points out that the same courses are available in Viva Learning, so they are available in SharePoint and in MS Teams…
Steve shares a few nuggets from Viva Learning and Marijn gets distracted by a ringing phone and cuts off the girlfriend… but I am a witness we are recording.
Gather Feedback: It does not matter what the feedback is, just continue to get feedback. Steve suggests that you should kick off as early as possible with a poll before your awareness campaign kicks off to confirm
Personalise your Training: This about sing the Audience features to suggest training across the business. Think about the matrix of Role v Skills so that Managers do not need to know how to create a page, but it would be good for them to understand how audiences work. However, both need to understand pages and how they work.
Custom videos or page instructions for the ‘feel’ of the company so that they have customise training branded for the company that feels a little special.
Our Sponsor Braeburn Whisky is described and of course Steve and Marijn have invested with Braeburn with 3 barrels between them already to do some cool things with 😊
Braeburn provided a 14 year old whisky from the Loch Lomond for us to taste which was truly great peated whisky available from their web site Hill Climb 14 Bottle - Cask 88 not many bottle left.
After Steve looked at Barriers to getting the information in #2 of the Wee Dram series and then was to create Impact in #3 in this episode, we look at Adapting your M365 adoption to maximise value.
Business is in constant flow, and we take reference from 3 companies that innovated into different value streams. These examples, whilst mainstream, show that companies change and evolve. Ensuring that your M365 service can support that ensures value for both internal processes that support customer value.
Nothing is ever finished in M365 as it changes and upgrades and enables new opportunities for value to be added constantly. So you need a plan! Planning to Evolve is discussed with some examples of user stories that show how to evolve your M365 in an environment of constant improvement.
... and then check out the finish with a quote from Gunny Highway (Clint Eastwood) quote from the Film Heartbreak Ridge!!
After talking about recently attended events we learn that Marijn likes only soft things against his skin, but the boys resist the opportunity for a fun discussion on this fact. They talk about the new news around AD and AAD groups where AAD groups can now be nested.
There is disagreement about the copying of profiles and if the AAD groups also get copied across to new users based on another user... Steve thought not and Marijn started to doubt... but from a quick lookup it appears there is a user template option now available and some Microsoft Flows that will not assist in this role.
Bon Vivant is Marijn’s new Viva name, which is apparently a thing
Eventually, Steve and Marijn move on to the subject at hand which is Business Architecture. The idea being it is important to understand the business processes around this architecture and then use M365 architecture to add value to the areas that most need a change or improvement.
We take a look at a specific Business architecture working across the business and for the podcast, we tool the Hire to Retire process.
We take the various aspects of the process and choose the appropriate Microsoft365 application and tool that best improves that aspect of the process. Nothing is limited as this is after all only a podcast.
And of course, neither Steve nor Marijn has to build this so reality can take a side-line. Especially when Steve takes an AI chat that creates an automatic Head-hunter application to go find the perfect candidate.
After completing the process, it is time to relax with a whisky from Finland... so we finished the Finish whisky at the end of the podcast
Division of the implementation of M365 into 3 spaces...
Understanding the Need: Our primary communication is speech, it’s the fastest way 2 human beings can exchange ideas, and frustrations and collaborate over solutions.
Identify the current risks: Breaking down the processes that are prone to fail or that everyone understands are vulnerable for some reason.
Ignore the normal: There are a few traditional ways of delivering M365 but if you want to deliver M365 with value then use everything you have learned to focus on what can Create Impact Faster
Check out Wee Dram EP2 and understand how you need to breakdown barriers to deliver M365 Value
We identify quickly that Marijn is likely to suffer a little simply because of a high-sarcasm level within the evil mind of Steve during the recording. Steve sends his apologies!!
Names of Internets got a little time which represents the point about style that the team use for the project. The Style, tone of voice, graphics, and word choice helps set the style of the project, training, look and feel etc. So often the name chosen will drive the style.
Some thoughts on how the project is linked to the corporate brand, but the best advice is to have a feel of the corporate branding in whatever style you decide on for the communications and adoption of the project.
Navigation gets a good minute or two both on style and importance before taxonomy has a few sarcastic comments that ensures it is not forgotten and an indication that it is important and something that needs to be taken seriously.
Returning to the link to the company branding needs to be considered but the intranet and project communications should be aligned to the company style. Steve and not sure about how a company ethos is defined and by who and gets very deep on this wondering who makes the decisions.... Marijn is right in that M365 project needs to work alongside the way the company operates.
We do agree on the fact that different companies need a different personality to the project and intranet, we know banks are more serious than a software house etc. Steve does need to let it go... companies find their own level it is not decided by ‘John’ or any team.
Marijn hits on the important point that whatever style/vibe/feel you decided on it should be consistent from beginning to the end and a strategy of style that everyone signs up for
Don’t let the style take away the main priority that M365 projects are about changing and improving communications and collaboration
You should not forget that you need to balance the audience needs and the company style. Legal people have a different mindset to engineers and marketing and the content is very different ranging from Serious to stories to data sheets. Maybe the pages and terms used on different divisions pages need varied styles.
The Boys finish with a very rare whisky from this weeks Fies Ila festival from Islay in Scotland. We are very impressed with this year’s edition from Kilchoman, the Fèis Ìle 2022 Edition.
In the first week of any new Job or contract you get introduces to people and teams telling you what is required, and what you need to deliver.
Inevitable there is a reason when it has not been delivered before you arrive which means that your specific skills are needed to make it happen.
Very often after over 30 years in the consultancy game, Steve finds that what the organisation thinks needs to happen is not what should be delivered. Steve shares his secrets of the first week and identifies Doors and barriers that you will come across but maybe you have not noticed. Doors and barriers are what shape the work you need to do, and your effectiveness in delivering value.
Value is important as it balances the money you are taking out of the company, and we always want to ensure the company feels that they get value for money. In this podcast, you will find one or two ideas that will ensure your employer feels that way.
Glasgow summit and Commsverse get a mention
Marijn is convinced that MS Teams as a hub is the way to go to the point that he even misses the ‘It Depends’ joke that he keeps mentioning. Steves. Sarcasm is evident throughout the podcast, but Marijn defends it well.
The devil is in the detail and Steve is not sure that the app is ready and counters many arguments that Marijn puts in and event Steve is beginning to see some sense but the strategy does need some development and yet again suggests that this conversation is ahead of the time and that maybe the future might deliver the right functionality.
It is difficult to argue against the logic that because I spend so much time in MS Teams having access to the applications I need for my job.
Steve Starts to think about how it might work, and Marijn identifies some solutions about how to focus the navigation against audiences based on policies for personae groups.
Steve is not impressed with this idea and wonders if MS Teams in its current format is suitable to provide Navigation and appropriate functionality to become the true application, Hub. But accepts as a strategy the concept makes sense but wonders if it has the legs
The biggest issue is the current structure because everything is based around teams a Channel to have global access to the app’s navigation seems difficult.
Expanding Topics AI functionality might be an answer to draw people across to the apps your team is using and maybe a solution for your team to continue your processes when you go on holiday and maybe
Steve throws in left-field questions to ask about UserVoice and cannot remember the name of the replacement. But after the podcast, we remember. We know now that it’s called Feedback Hub which is a Windows Application for reporting improvements.
Marijn accepts that this is not a perfect solution and decides that the only perfect solution is Anne Hathaway
The boys eventually leave this with the suggestion that this is a strategy that needs testing so why not think about MS Teams as a Hub/platform as you consider an upgrade or rollout of an app and consider if it can be easily integrated into the MS teams and adds value.
The finish is from the USA with a very neat Drink that Al Capone once described as “the Good Stuff” Templeton Rye 6-year-old from a small-town distillery in the State of IOWA
Ever thought about your Maker strategy, do you even know what a maker is? Marijn Somers goes solo in this first of many Wee Drams of knowledge built from 15+ years of experience in Microsoft 365 consulting. Compared to Steve he is not the old man of the Office365Distilled podcast team... but he shows in this the first Wee Dram of Office365Distilled that he is mature beyond his years.
Join Marijn as he looks at 4 golden nuggets that help you understand and plan for the low-Code development age breaking out across our enterprises. Ho offers considered thoughts on how to set up the culture and community that creates the foundation of Collaboration-Innovation for your organisation
In an age where the employee is such a corporate asset and often the centre of the innovation process from tweaking a policy to defining the R&D of the company... the employee is feeling the power. Many companies are starting to feel the pain of not having folks on-site when they need them. Employees find working from home suits them, but there are times when the team need to be on-site and collaborate face to face.
There is a revisit of the pandemic 2 years ago and forced a change in the company working from home meant somehow equipment from chairs to monitors all had to be purchased from home.
Today the Way of Working needs to find a way to minimise the changes from home working to Office working and the key attributes of meetings need to be transparent to all employees. Even if it is just about equivalency during the meeting.
Change is so important and the K from ADKAR becomes important as we need to help users gain the knowledge and change their perspective during meetings to understand that not everyone is sitting by their side... how many people point to their screen during a meeting and assume everyone else can see their windows
As IT we can help the company design their infrastructure to support how the company will deliver a Digital 1st environment.
Steve points out that if everyone is equal then unless the company is going to invest heavily not everyone will have the best monitor and camera at home and at the office. So finding the common denominator as the online meeting policy and documenting the expectations and associated training is one way for IT to support the home working policy.
Of course, one way to encourage back to work is to ensure the Office experience is better than the home experience. However, that needs to be balanced against the quality of the meeting to ensure it is getting the greatest value for the business. For example, ensuring that people have access to the right knowledge to be most effective.
Tool knowledge is key but also a personal understanding goes the differences between Collaboration, Presenting, Brainstorming, and ensuring that everyone knows and understands how to encourage innovation during meetings. In fact, the reality is that the Meeting owners need to plan and ensure the right tools are available for everyone and they know how to use them.
AI and Cortana could be a big player using insights to identify who will be in the office and set up meetings to support active projects
Martijn drops his golden nugget by stating his perception is that for Hybrid work you need Hardware, policy, the right application and ensure people have digital literacy and understand the technology to move forward. Meeting owners have responsibility for the success of Hybrid meetings.
A great Digital First meeting experience is achievable.
For this company, we need a digital-first definition to drive policy and delivery of the right hardware.
Ok after 2 rehearsals for Episode 90 Steve and Marijn get started talking about Japanese TV shows, the location for the 100th episode the whole conversation turns towards the processes of creating a Workforce... sorry workflow!
The boys work through the different stages in creating a workflow that starts with The Talk. The point where the business describes what they expect to happen and how it will improve their business process. The list includes decisions on Audience, triggers, lifecycle, compliance, and planning all before a no-code ‘drag-and-drop’ box has been moved on the screen
Conversation provides some ideas on how to define the governance for the creation of a workflow and understanding how you balance IT support for business created workflows... and then they drink a great Deanston finished in a Bourdeaux Wine barrel MMmmm...
Mickey Mouse takes the front of the stage on EP89 with a business diagram that looks at Collaboration (face) Content (right ear) and Communications (left ear). The model identifies the core functionality of Content, Collaboration & Communication with the key tools being Exchange, SharePoint Online and MS Teams.
Steve uses the word Personae and Marijn wonders if he is ill.
Steve has not always been a believer in the default view about personae but in this podcast, he explains that like a complex whisky there is value in personae when the audience value is understood. He goes on to explain this is described as Focused Usability where the Personae has the Desire (aka ADKAR) because you have identified the specific value they will get from MS Teams or SharePoint Online when combined with Exchange. Collaboration, Content and Communications
The example discussed is to only allow the personae who need sites to have the rights to create sites.
And right in the middle of this Steve’s mother calls, Wendy Barks and Marijn must drag us back to his golden nugget from this week’s podcast!!
Marijn re-iterates the value in NOT giving everyone the rights to create sites… for example not having to train the personae who do not have rights to create sites.
Viva Insights tells Steve that he responds quickly to emails and Marijn asks if that is a thing… then they get to discuss what you can do in 6 minutes!
The conclusion is that defining policies around when to use a Site, Group, MS team or yammer group depends on the business need. However, this is a variable in that the personae obtain different values from the M365 toolset depending on the Baseline governance that drives each of the services.
If you get the Awareness and governance by Personae right, you are already halfway to setting up the Desire by identifying the value in the product.
The boys drink the Lagavulin 8-year-old created to commemorate the 200th anniversary of the founding of the Lagavulin distillery by John Johnston in 1816… and they like it a lot!!
Chats are shorter because they already have context but for emails, you often must provide the context so that people can understand the message.
Policies do need to be thought through about external access for Chats. MS Teams and channel chats are OK as invitees are created as external users but not for Chats.
Marijn outlines the email problems with emails and the problems of losing control and treating the email string as a conversation instead of having… a real conversation.
Worth thinking about email as evidence of a decision made. Chat can be less instinctive without the context, but the story of an email has a little more depth to describe the decisions being made.
Chat has some risks as it is not always so easy to see who can read the messages like in Email but of course, if we were all open and honest it doesn’t matter.
Chat tends to work the right and left side brains with great creativity tools.
Change program is required to drive a Chat 1st Mentality
All the old rules apply across Chats as they do for emails, so CAPITAL LETTERS do mean I am shouting and to respond quicker than an email process.
Marijn and Steve sound a little disappointed with the Jura 7 wood they taste at the end of EP87 but they are not, this was a very deep whisky with great notes at the end.
These are the links to the things we found cool in Barcelona.
Braeburn Podcask https://open.spotify.com/episode/3CTjSOEP9QZpfkAa8358d1
Kate took us to a few new Bars and was a fabulous host visiting 4 great places https://www.airbnb.com/experiences/1757637
Kates first choice was Dr. Stravinsky: https://www.worlds50bestbars.com/the-list/dr-stravinsky.html
But we found our spiritual home here at La Whiskeria: https://www.facebook.com/lawhiskeria which became our Barcelona home from Home
On Monday your team delivers on the change and confirms their ability to deliver change based on the knowledge they have learned. The boys talk about ways to help confirm people are on the right track and suggest creating a community of success.
Marijn quotes ‘something he read’ that it takes 21 days to drive change and 90 days to change the old habits. It potentially gives you a timeline for this stage of the ADKAR model. Bribery is discussed, OK a bonus system where savings are identified as part of the change and fad back into the bonus system.
Bottom line is that people who have learned and delivered change can easily revert back to the old way of working unless you remove the old way and reinforce the new way to keep the people positive and happy.
Having the ability to change or do something is about proving yourself. Knowing something and delivering something is different. In a setting such as Adoption and Change management, the proof is in the delivery. Where the Individual provides that have the Awareness, Desire and knowledge but now prove their ability through delivery. The boys point out that we cannot finish and move to the R – reinforcement if the Individual has not delivered the change. Demonstrating the ‘Ability to Change is the Definition of Done when you are Maturing the Ability
Knowledge as training is discussed in a way that ensures people are ready for the change, what they need to do and prepare for. It is easy to describe knowledge as training, but you need to bring in the desire to want to learn. After making users enthusiastic for change then a holistic learning program shows the organisation’s commitment to supporting the change.
Steve and Marijn continue their journey of shorter discussions on ADKAR focusing on this session on Desire. Within the spirit of Barcelona high on the boy’s mind, this episode is based on the ideas from the Barcelona tapes but finished in Marijn’s front room. Make sure you catch the Postscript at the last minute when Marijn encapsulates ADKAR it is very cool
In this first “Matured” episode, Steve and Marijn go deep on the ADKAR process, taking the first A – Awareness (we didn’t have to look that up, we promise!!) and discuss the why, what and how to make this first step a success when rolling out Microsoft 365.
Filled with examples and experience, this is adoption content matured for you to enjoy (responsibly).
In this short form podcast we are talking about the 5 components that make up the ADKAR methodology: What they are, what you need to do, what we think is necessary here and how to measure if you are on the right path.
This will serve as a base for our next "Matured" episodes, in which we will look at each of those components in depth.
In this short form 18.50 minute podcast, Steve and Marijn talk from experience about 4 principles to enhance collaboration: Digital affinity, a good adoption process (that also includes the technophobes), tools that have baselined governance and a feedback mechanism for improvement.
Coming to you live from the beach in Barcelona, Steve and Marijn are trying to wrap their heads around first principle thinking.
They talk about Primero Principios (PP) and the cause and effect reasoning to get to the core beliefs about a product. Of course Marijn is trying to overcomplicate things.
The first step is to define the migration strategy that ensures you have the User Story associated with the content, locations, and final resting places so that everyone understands the plan that will take several months.
Marijn points out that not migration is a migrating strategy and one to consider, although not migration leads to come complexity on the roadmap.
Stave points out that the tools are not about Migration, and they agree the scope is about moving active content from the old technology and location into the new Cloud-based storage tools
Migration strategy has at one end just a Lift and Shift scenario, so the data stays in the same structure but in a new location. At the other end of the scale, is to move the content and add it to a fully configured Managed Content architecture built on SharePoint, MS Teams, OneDrive as example locations.
Plans and communications are a key aspect of the planning… plan and communicate it well.
In simple terms, we decide to Move this document from here to there. Then the complications start where these questions need to be answered
- Do the users know where the documents will be placed?
- How do they share contact after the migration?
- What files will cause issues, Macros, file links, OneNote files
- Which options the have least risks
IS the definition of s simple migration just getting the users to move it themselves??
Often the migration strategy starts with ‘Who is going to migrate the content’
Once it was agreed that the podcast is about their experience then users cannot lead on M365 but should provide some great user stories.
The Project Team define the Migration strategy
Every organisation will require different aspects of the migration strategy
Start thinking about Migration strategy at the same time as you plan how your tenant will be structure
Do users follow or stay with the content, even if you roll out SPO and MS teams will users start using them if the content is not migrated.
Marijn and Steve work differently around migration and adoption and they work out how many ways are there of making tenants work across the enterprise.
Migration is about archive because the average document is only receiving focus for 3 months and we need a migration strategy that can deliver now.
Steve disagrees with Marijn’s approach to migration which makes for interesting conversations for 2 guys standing at a bar talking crap!!
Before drinking a wonderful Japanese 12-year-old whisky the boys quote Charig Patel whose statement suggested that you Know-Your-Data (content) is very profound to know what content will add value after the migration.
Finally, after trying to close the conversation with a quick comment from Nikki Chapple who identified the need to de-duplicate the content before migration. Steve Points out that defining the conditions against which you judge duplicate data is difficult
Starting with a conversation about music and movies Marijn and Steve suddenly realise that it is supposed to be a technical podcast with a dose of whisky… not film music.
As they realise this and move across to the podcast subject of looking at the Back-to-Basics of data in SharePoint online.
Steve pushes listeners to think about how they process data and make it available as data.
From a Change and Adoption basis, we teach how to manage documents when we need to decide on the form that the data is stored before just falling into the habit of using excel
The Value of the data we can use every day is reduced greatly when it is stored (and lost!!) in an application like Excel.
Statistics around which applications focus on document and which focus on data was taken and it was roughly equal. But we do not teach and explain the management of information and knowledge in the same proportion.
We wonder how much data is lost inside the documents we plan on migrating or the documents we are creating and uploading to SharePoint.
Going back to basics for lists means looking to keep your data in data format whilst working out how you can publish it as a port and document.
The boys realise that they also need to change and focus more on lists and only on documents when it makes sense. Preparing for the future use of the data will become a value in the future.
New Microsoft tools mean that you can present list data as Panels and great page data.
The famous whiteboard gets a Name: PATTI which gets very rude very quickly, so the boys decide on PADDI as it holds pads of paper. It now delivers more structured divergence
A warning is discussed that whilst there is the value of thinking about content data, over content documents, simply because lists are more granular.
Steve surmises down the rabbit hole about creating virtual contracts creating from a bunch of re-usable items which are in fact data defining another blurred line between documents and data. “It’s a good job nobody else can here this great idea”
To sum up - Don’t just focus on the content separate the data at the source, beware of the rabbit hole because more decisions are needed around access control. PowerApps and Power BI are a tool that can turn around your company’s perspective on their content.
Steve and Marijn consider how much knowledge is lost when Data is stored inside content.0
The boys drink Deanston Virgin Oak whisky which is one of the boy’s favourite distilleries featured on their Whisky@ease channel on YouTube. No-fuss just great whisky is a great description of the Deanston product.
The round-up at the end of the podcast brings out the key thoughts that generate a few thoughts about how to approach the overall contract and data strategy across the change and adoption plans.
Steve is not confused by his dyslexia of saying this is episode 67 at all, it might be down to the Uncle Nearest the boys shared as a winter warmer after coming in from the cold.
All this before talking about M365 Chicago, mentioning Commsverse https://www.commsverse.com/ again in June same place, and Steve and Marijn turn up on a few of the social photos on the web site.
Steve tries to explain to Marijn why his view on Internet is a little screwed and has changed over the years and yes Steve gets difficult (surprise surprise) trying to drill down on the importance of the Intranet and why relevance is so important as a solid source of truth.
Content architecture becomes a key part of the Intranet scope so that relevant information is delivered to the right people. A key decision is needed to decide if Content is pushed or pulled but only if after you have defined the company content architecture.
Its important to ensure that you have a great content taxonomy of content so that what arrives is relevant to the user viewing the page… One page about health and safety but it delivers the relevant H&S rule based on where I work and what I do. A user should not have to search for a specific Safety information sheet when the Intranet knows what I do and where I work.
Marijn brings back the model for content management as A, B C and now adds D. in a model that looked like a Whisky Still
Scope of an Intranet is defined without reference to internal communications.
A new approach to publishing is required and audiences are well defined to cover languages and culture.
The Intranet is about content driven by a growing number of technologies that create the Intranet and can simplify access to relevant content based on the role and location of the user.
The mechanics of an Internet are briefly discussed on how easy it is put together a Hub sites and a few connected sites. But the real work is about ensuring the right people see the most relevant information.
Yammer gets a good mention because of its ability to provide funnels of information well delivered
Finally, the boys return to Goa. This time a none-peated version from John-Paul. Finally Steve and Marijn touch on Push and pull of information through the Intranet.
Marijn and Steve fail miserably to define content types with a complex 'deep' example first time around but eventually Steve talks about his favourite subject ‘naked Chocolate’ and once you hear this you get a simple definition about what a content type is.
The basics are covered to talk about re-usable metadata and then move across to the value of being able to identify specific content across large number of sites. Steve gets pedantic (surprise surprise) about how CT’s are synchronized and copied as a separate object with a link and the value of this in search.
Emphasis is placed on the importance of planning content types as an architecture as part of the information architecture across the enterprise. Marijn asks a question about how the hierarchy of content types work and when should a content type be created as a new top level or latch into an existing structure.
Marijn starts to take on the role of question master to add some structure to the review of Content types to ensure the right information is available.
Content types are going through a re-birth like classic pages when to Modern pages. This means that some of the existing functionality is removed whilst the rebirth of the concept is modernised.
The boys taste a South African whisky created from Corn that surprising enough they like and enjoy.
Marijn and Steve open their Christmas presents from Microsoft and peek of what’s cool and what’s cooler. They touch on the complexity of collaboration, the growth of Adoption and the fact that Compliance is the ugly Christmas sweater that is a little nerdy and growing more complex.
Marijn talks about Socks and Beanies with fairy dust on as he talks about the gift if the Microsoft List before discussing if he would walk around with a Scrotum beanie label on his head. Conclusion is that Lists are cool and going to sub-zero levels of coolness.
Then Big Peat makes us both smile with a Kick in the balls!! Finally, Steve must be told by Marijn to stop because this podcast can go on and on so don’t stop at the Whisky some cool stuff at the end you do not want to miss… so many cool presents.
Steve and Marijn open their Christmas presents for 2021
Is MS Teams trying to do too much, its more navigate than content… the one App to rule them all.
Marijn has a new consultant tag line “Its manageable”
Is Loop the answer to the complexity of MS teams UI trying to get you to everything…
Steve decides that his new 2022 Lego characters will be the personas for the 2022 adoption program.
Compliance gets a good going over with Steve talking about Auto-Auto-Auto equals expensive and more expensive but cool, very very cool… and complex so work for consultants well into the 2020’s
We had to feel the pain of going through Microsoft strategy of the modern pages, libraries and lists to get to a point where Microsoft can now bring out rapid functionality development on Forms, Lists, Power Platform etc.
Stream for SPO must be the present you save until last because you have more to gain from it. Video still needs to become a medium that the average Joe uses every day. But the new functionality coming out like comments live in the video, and transcripts are back after missing for some time.
Steve sent the last podcast through the transcript service and Marijn gets transcribed as Moron 😊
At the final present on Stream, Steve adds in some pixie dust and starts to imagine some of the cool stuff Microsoft could do which includes auto editing a 30-minute meeting to a 5-minute video and including the emotive expressions to identify the important items or the heavily discussed items in the meeting.
Finally Big Peat is tasted, and the boys conclude about how big and complex M365 is becoming and almost impossible to track and be the expert on everything.
Marijn goes Retro in this podcast (quoting Steamy Windows & Mrs Robinson) around how to Iteratively Evolve your M365 installation for the business. Steve #ScrewsUp and tells you a story to help you not do the same and then introduces the concept ‘Plan to Evolve’. This is a process for constant growth and improvement across the business and organisation for M365.
Bringing together Baseline Governance and Plan to Evolve will put in place your rise to Rockstar status in your Microsoft 365 project regardless of where you are in your Collaboration journey.
Plan to Evolve supports the adoption programs through the process for quarterly planning and cutting up the strategy for delivery. All this driven growth and development makes you a rock star in your business because you have direction that is well communicated and planned.
After a very different Rye whisky from The oxford Artisan Distillery Marijn brings the planning process together and points out the new evolution items like Microsoft LOOP.
There is a new MOCA 2.0 framework from Microsoft and Marijn thinks we should do a re-visit. Steve thinks he is right because there are hidden depths that folks need to be aware of. This new Adoption toolset is at the next level building perfectly on the first release.
EP72 is really Steve and Marijn standing at the bar and shooting the breeze. With lots of diversions and bar level humor (you have been warned)
Steve identifies the subtle levels of change in the MOCA framework that takes it over and above a framework of telling you which tools should be used for what.
Today MOCA is more aligned to corporate objectives and business value items allowing you to think about the work completed by the business and identifying the Microsoft 365 tools that can deliver value to the community of workers.
The Boys touch on the framework but also the purpose of Persona used by many to identify the scope of a Microsoft 365 roll out. But Steve expands on this adding in the dimension of Process alongside the Personas. After all we are reminded that everyone in the company works within a set of processes, regardless of the role they perform.
Marijn has 2 subjects for discussion in Episode 71. Intranet, using Communications sites to create an ‘intranet’ and the SAFe AGILE process ( SAFe = Scaled Agile Framework ).
So, they start with T-Shirt sizes and Steve goes onto explain how T-Shirt sizes allows for an AGILE approach to corporate planning and delivering against a vision in a driven direction. Marijn loves the concept of using Dinosaurs to plan your Microsoft365 roll-out… an interesting podcast!
Steve admits towards the end of the podcast that he is the last person in the world to create a Spotify playlist and the boys talk about the magic of driving and hitting the right bend with the right speed and the right music.
Then they timebox 6 minutes to argue about Intranets and the different philosophies you could take when deciding on the Governance of your Intranet and which works in your organisation.
Then it finishes off with a gift from Tony who when on Holiday found a distillery that created Whisky from Cactus. We definitely hit the objective of tasting a Whisky that you would not normally savor. Mike Drop!
Marijn and Steve look at the bigger picture of adoption and transformation and specifically the roles required to deliver Adoption successfully. Assuming the Design, Migration, Change & Adoption and Run stages they build a matrix of the roles and responsibilities required for success.
We consider the people and problems that need to be considered at the start. Stakeholders, C-Level, Middle management all become part of the change leadership whilst Architects, Developers Helpdesk, Security, and the configuration team can develop design documentation and use these to define the system builds.
IDO, Microsoft: Intelligence-Driven Organisation Framework Deloitte: Insight Driven Organisation “Basically almost the same and identical” to be precise.
Understanding the metrics https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/admin/productivity/productivity-score
The boys eventually start to look at the areas monitored with the productivity Score, ignoring the physical network aspects. They focus on the people aspects to try and make a judgement on the way people are changing.
Microsoft has looked at how people are working but with the context of generating information from the cold hard data figures. Achieved through a combination of data sets to create a story of change
Comparisons are made between the number of people enabled for a function and the number of people using the tools available to them.
Marijn and Steve are not sure about the way meeting definitions are used in the productivity Score. Where Camera-on gets a higher mark than a meeting without Camera usage by the participants. However, they like that meetings that include screen sharing have a higher value as this indicates good Collaboration
Tracking the mobility of your users is about using multiple devices for a user and using different applications to edit or view content.
Working through all the pages on the Productivity Score page, Office365Distilled becomes more optimistic about how these tools can judge Collaboration across the enterprise.
Then we move to TOAD or The Oxford Artisan Distillery, where the boys visited a few weeks ago and bought a bottle that is distilled from grains propagated from 300+-year-old seeds. This drink is truly a great tasting Rye Whisky.
After The first in-person conference for 18 months Steve and Marijn talk about the things they learned from the great list of speakers and people they bumped into and the Whisky tour around the Cotswold and Oxford. Eventually tasting the Cotswold Peated Cask and an interview with Connor Teague the Events and Marketing Manager for the distillery telling us about the history and plans for this great English whisky brand.
Shout out...
Sarah Fenner | Al Eardley | Yannick Reekmens | Tony Woodruff | Alex Kwaskowski | Megan Warren | Bill Ayers | Sharon Weaver | Kevin and Al from GreyBeard | David Cromca | Zoe Wilson
And all the others that we missed from the list… thank you.
They talk about what they learned which of course focused on all the bits they don’t know… The main message is that MS teams is huge, but we all knew that.
So after talking about it for over half a year the details of the first Office365Distilled party have been reviewed. September 12th 2021 at 7.30 CET (18.30 UK) so listen in and go to www.marijnandSteve.com to reserve your place. Your chance to win a shot of Swiss Mountain Whisky matured for 7 of it's 11 years in a glacier in Switzerland to give it a complexity of forest fruits on the nose only matched by the awesomely sharp pepper on the finish.
Steve and Marijn talk about their first Face to Face conference in over a year, this is Commsverse…
Times may be uncertain, but one thing remains true. There’s a simple power in people coming together. That is why we are committed to delivering an in-person conference this Year. Commsverse is a community conference organised by technology enthusiasts for enthusiasts.
We are a laser focused technical conference dedicated to enabling Microsoft Teams for medium to large enterprises. We are the event where the best minds in the business gather to share their expert knowledge and experience so that your organization can enable your flexible workforce communication & collaboration using Microsoft Teams effectively & efficiently.
We pick out our favourite presentations that we intent to visit and learn from.
Steve & Marijn - www.SteveandMarijn.com
Ever wondered what a Whisky might taste like that has been matured for 7 years at -4 degrees on Europe’s biggest glacier? Episode 66 of Office365Distilled tell you exactly what it tastes like. If that is not enough reasons to listen to the podcast, then understanding more about user and management buy into the Microsoft365 change and adoption process might do it for you.
We discuss why it’s important to Senior managers to ensure that Awareness if Transparent. That they fully understand the implications at the start and become the strategy ambassadors for the project.
Finally, we mentioned the dreaded word Politics and look at how its important for management to drive the energy of the project ensuring user beliefs and step into providing the vision of the change
As always there is a hint of rudeness with discussions on how Marijn picks the perfectly sized cigar, but as it is a podcast the joke from Steve about where the cigar goes is lost on the audience.
But then the background to the podcast about setting up those pages is discussed. Not defining the information that needs to be displayed but focusing on the tips and tricks to building and managing pages… the main 8 pieces of content.
We talk about Dear jeff and how he will be taking our suggestions and immediately adding them to the backlog on the day the podcast is released… ok maybe not 😉
A great tip from Marijn about creating a new view in the Site pages library to create a Functional list of the pages to find them back again. Steve reminds us that it is a library with all the features of a library including metadata, grouping, filtering multiple views.
Marijn introduces the way to list the pages in web parts and Steve looks at the fact that the page content is King, presented in a way to make the user go WOW and want to come back and see future changes.
Both podcasts talk about how the Heading anchors are a great way when combined with Quick links and even text links so that users can jump around the page and quickly get to the content. Steve adds the tip to make sure users can easily get back to the top.
Matt Hurst joins us from Ribbon Communications a sponsor from the Commsverse conference on September 15th for 2 days to talk about what goodies they will be giving away at the conference and what knowledge they will share.
Dear Jeff… can you make a web part that can move within the page as you scroll down and stay within the live window as well as making it possible to pull content from other site collections.
The boys shout out lots of respect to those with the skills that can visualize a stunning page and the difference between the technical skills of building the page and the design aspects of creating beauty.
Movie tags are included that perfectly describes how we bend Microsoft365 weaknesses as Marijn says “Nature always finds a way”
Some new features are discussed around collapsible sections which are rolling out… but you can ignore this if needed because apparently ‘We are not that kind of podcast 😊
The podcast disagreement is about the Page web part that inserts a line… Steve hates and Marijn loves… before finishing with some Dear Jeff moments for improvements.
Finally, we get to Whisky, which turns out to be very special, suggested by our regular listener Sven, created by a German Kirsh maker. The boys tell a confusing story of this whisky because it is so surprisingly good and it expands the taste horizon of Steve and Marijn. Bu the agreement is that they should not have been surprised because of the source of this whisky.
And this time Steve tries to do the ending and gets hijacked by Marijn.
A split decision on subjects for Episode 63 sees Steve and Marijn bring both their ideas together. Looking at the key structures that build content architectures, Sites and Structures, Governance and Processes combined with Marijn’s thoughts on the 5 reasons that Business transformation fails and looking at how you can plan for failure and identify the solutions for success.
Opinions vary in this podcast with the usual disagreement on Architecture coming first but we hope the different opinions, thoughts and discussions help you work out what’s best for you.
The boys disagree on the readability of URLs and naming convention for Sites Marijn is a believer in identifiable and named url’s and whilst Steve is a believer in a Code or number for the Intranet, we look at the pro’s and con’s of a readable url.
The One-Inch Party is defined as 3 days before Commsverse with a reminder that September 12th is the Office365 Distilled One-Inch party and September 15th and 16th is Commsverse the Hybrid MS teams conference.
Role-Based Access Control (RBAC) is discussed and the involvement of Leadership to support the solutions around RBAC and Steve identifies some of the difficult steppingstones for success which will change but solid processes and dynamic groups make this a real success possibility.
A blended whisky again is selected to finish off the podcast with an independent bottler taking great whiskies from the lowlands creating ‘The Epicurean’ blended whisky from Douglas Lang.
Have you set up Secure Score?? Office365Distilled takes a high level look at improving your secure score and the big items that you can implement to move your score from the low percentile to more than 60%.
“but how does this effect the user?” Is a question that Steve and Marijn cover. We do know that adding security is a balance with the inconvenience cause with additional authentication and speed reduction through encrypting content etc.
Mark Vale and Martin Boam creators of Commsverse join us to provide some background about how this Hybrid conference is designed to focus on networking and deep diving into MS Teams over 2 days at Mercedes-Benz world in the UK
Peer comparison in Secure Score is discussed which is a great way to judge your figure against representative peer companies and how settings today will not consistently keep your percentages up because accessing secure score is important to ensure a high level of security.
Secure score can manage your tasks and projects around security and allows you to mitigate the risks if your DLP for example is managed by external tools. Defining who can see, read, and edit secure score is important to ensure the right people have appropriate access.
Alerts are discussed that will set some policies which check various aspects of the user experience for those users who forward their email to external accounts or remove their Junk Email folder.
Whisky raises its head as usual and we move east with a blend from Japan and Steve forgets the the name of the recent Sherry Bomb Whisky he tasted on his journey to appreciating Sherry whisky and then Marijn introduces a Japanese Whisky finished in Rum barrels from Okinawa.
EP61 is a unique episode because amazingly Steve and Marijn finish on time! Whilst looking at the MS Team announcements. We discuss Jeff Teper’s keynote from European SharePoint conference and how he positions Microsoft365.
The future of collaboration is discussed looking at Fluid capabilities with such great excitement and the boys discuss recent announcements within MS teams from build.
Advice on becoming a MS teams Rockstar is included as well as a slightly longer discussion on Kilchoman Experimental Casks… which we of course had to taste!!
Steve and Marijn dig down into collaboration for this special episode of the Offcie265 Distilled podcast. The 60th Episode meaning 60 subjects discussed and 60 whiskies tasted.
30+ years ago you only had the ability to share a network drive holding files you and the team needed. Today you have co-authoring, Sharing, Document templates, Improved search capability, live sharing of content and integration of voice, Video and Content.
We look at the Corporate Collaborative Roadmap and route your organization needs to take along with the investment of tools, time, and resources to move forward.
How do you measure the work and return on investment as you roll out the M365 services and deliver collaboration to your organization? Steve and Marijn tell some stories in EP60 of office365 Distilled around the Roadmap to deliver collaboration. Starting from over 40 years ago when a network drive was all that was available through to full collaboration.
Finally, we tell you one of the best Whiskey stories to emerge over the last few years that created a very special whisky. The story and the whisky combined bring you the best whisky tasting yet from the boys of Office365Distilled with the help of Uncle Nearest!
There are a lot of things to discuss with regard to your Collaboration journey and which tools should be used for what is a key Decision. Steve and Marijn get down and dirty checking out two of the applications SPO (SharePoint Online) and MS teams. It goes a little like this:
00:00:14 Steve
KI kind of hate this whole notification thing in Ms teams. Okay.
00:00:21 Marijn
Probably because you're not using it in the right way.
00:00:26 Steve
Okay Mr. high and freaking Mighty then why? What am I doing wrong?
00:00:27 Marijn
00:00:29 Marijn
No, no no. I'm just saying this notification system works as you know, just like it should on Outlook
00:00:41 Marijn
For when people are collaborating in the organization and you or they should send you an email where you are in the CC.
00:00:49 Marijn
See, you shouldn't be. You shouldn't have to read. It's not information that you need to know in order to do your job.
If you're in the CC square, so for that they can just post that information on the team. If they need you to do something with it that you need to be put in the two fields and for that, in teams, the equivalent is actually tagging you or tagging a group of people, and that is the thing that you should get in your notification.
00:01:20 Marijn
Should only be the items that you need to do something with.
In this episode of #Office365Distilled Steve pulls up an old Ignite slide, from the Ignite Hangout. It described the process often used in sales, to move the customer to a state of commitment. Steve and Marijn take that funnel and consider how it applies to M365 adoption. Moving our users from Interest and Understanding to Value before Committing to the change.
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In Episode 57 of Office365Distilled:
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 discuss top items to teach anyone how to Collaborate
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 Ask you to Tell us your thoughts on the podcast
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 Discuss what's in a name when the hidden 'Spaces' became 'Moka' which was launched as 'Boards' and is Project Moka now finished?
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 discuss the constant complain that no definitive date is available for a new application to launch. But Steve knows why.
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 Talk about some new features like Boards, Scheduler, and the Duo.
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 What are the values of collaborations tools, feature richness, ease of use, in place governance?
OFFICE365DISTILLED Steve Dalby and Marijn Somer in EP57 hit the usual disagreement on telling the user the way they should collaborate.
So do you want the Famous Office365Distilled.com opening “HHHhhhheeeeyyyyyy Marijn’ as a ring tone?
And as mentioned in the podcast… 'e' vIHarqang, ghojwI'pu' qeylIS,
The boys hook into the simple task of Saving or Opening documents in Microsoft 365 and conclude that it has not changed in 30 years and still it’s difficult to open a document unless you recently accessed it.
They look at the new All document update on the home page and how now it is more than the most recent 15 documents. It provides a bunch of extra stuff about the documents. Marijn identifies that the new App bar will also identify recent content from different sites.
Cortana coms back as the boys discuss if ‘miss Graph is somehow related and who has the real intelligent.
What is the definition of Recent documents and does Delve, Cortana and Miss Graph have some input to what is displayed?
Is it the time to bring back ‘My Site’ a place where anyone can see you and all about you. You blogs, documents… Maybe this is the time to bring back a more accessible ‘My profile’ that looks good in public.
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The boys finish in true lockdown style by talking about 2 whiskies, yes 2 one from Scotland and one from Japan.
In this episode, the boys start with cars and Marijn still learning about his new motor car and how long it takes to learn all about the different controls. They remind everyone that their new Whisky@Ease YouTube channel has launched
https://youtu.be/8m8clnpRtsk?sub_confirmation=1
They report back on the speaking session that has not happened at the point of recording but went well at the time of the mix down!!!
The subject is Viva which of course is built on the release notes of cortex and its been really cool watching this initial release and launch turn into a set of great products.
Steve points out that historic applications like Delve and Graph have driven the capabilities that today has been refined into Viva Topics and Connections.
So they look at the extra features and the four products… Topics, Connections, Learning and Insights.
Marijn looks at Topics and how it could retain the corporate knowledge. Steve suggests that adoption is all about teaching people to share and collaboration and disagrees with Marijn who suggests that people keep it in their head.
The knowledge is less tacit and more hidden on OneDrive etc.
Viva will not necessarily fix problems, but it will provide the evidence to move towards a solution.
Security is important but it might need to go a step earlier and start to show content that you are not allowed to see. Of course, with permission.
Connections and topics will need managed metadata and transparency in place and across the organization.
One great working example might be Viva ensuring everyone is reminded about the Agile Epics, Features User stories that are relevant to a specific topic. Maybe it can start to enhance communicate strategic items if seeding is correctly enabled across the organization.
The Guys throw in the first advert for the Whiskay@ease channel, which is on YouTube. Just search Whisky@ease to see Steve and Marijn
Shout out for the March teams Summit and the Omaha365 User Group lunchtime sessions where Steve and Marijn have slots to speak.
Steve realizes that he should not trust everything he hears because he believed that you could only have 30 channels, but the reality is 200+. Always confirm your information.
UPDATE: If you want to see all the MS Teams previews as they release then Admin Teams > Teams > Update Policies and decide who should get the new updated features
Marijn explains how to use MS teams and how you can manage your time spend using MS teams through a little personal management of your channels and Teams. This includes showing how to use MS Teams showing how to Tag people.
Steve talks about including content in the adoption communications, and Marijn tells you how you can re-apply the un-read items. They also cover the fact that notifications are essential to ensure that you are notified about the crucial channels and teams
Marijn tells his latest User story about asking Microsoft to show in the OneDrive Synchronized files to show which ones are shared as an icon
Steve suggests that before you create a new Team or new Channel that you think about how the user will feel about another entity or if a new document library will suffice
Remember you can @ someone In the chancel if the subject is right but use the personal channels to speak to someone directly.
Steve points out that the convenience of ‘Just creating a new Team’ has some dependency on the global retention policy, which might, of course, mean a team/SPO site cannot be deleted.
Emojis can same lots of time and responses, use the LIKE to make a powerful statement of support
Steve suggests a new App called the @ed me App that sends over all the Likes from your outlook and MS Teams chat.
Control of Notification is possible; check the settings
Steve talks about the ‘MS teams search’ bar and how cool it is. Discovering the strength of the / comments and the @ and # the search of great content
The boys discuss that the search bar must be a hot item for MS to be strongly considering.
We look at the channels and how you can now add the Praise images for things like Awards
Checking out connectors and add-ins for the channels for integration with external apps
Bots are discussed, and whilst it is a great idea, but then we wonder how many people stick with a bot long term
So the real question is eventually asked why you would create a private channel? Marijn quotes one great example of keeping content away from external people who are in the same team.
Marijn Quotes Disney, specifically a Princess, on the Office365Distilled podcast.
As an end-user, who would they create a private channel when they could make the team. Other than Private channels, ONLY in the coming months, will have retention applied.
Two words ‘ It Depends’ which whilst we laugh about is a perfect description for considering when and if to create a Private channel
Be aware that you can only be a member of a private Channel if you are a team member. When you add people to a private channel, the user list is driven by the Team membership
Marijn suggests that the objective is to collaboration, so ignore the no folder rule, and Steve indicates that this is a compromise too far.
Add channels and build things that only add value as a golden ruled
In this edition, the boys talk about the relationship they have both had with SharePoint and its 20-year journey.
The day they both met for the first time and the spark that said this would be cool.
The first date when they started to understand the complexities and depth of our new partner.
That extraordinary moment of the first Kiss and you realised that this was a commitment for life.
Of course, they discussed getting to second base, but we edited that bit out after all who wants to hear about anyone getting intimate with a software piece. But don’t underestimate the need to get-on-down with SharePoint to make it shine with happiness!
The many arguments that took place because SharePoint would not do the things you wanted to do
That moment in any relationship when you realised it was getting serious
The sad time of the affair when SharePoint ran away with Exchange and created the illegitimate child calls Groups.
Briefly, the breakup of the family is discussed as Lists leave home and set up on their own
And we touch on the adopted family where the Hub site can connect with lost children.
Steve and Marijn start with Formula 1 and the changes this season, which are about restricting resources so that to win you must make everything count. ‘making everything counts’ makes Steve think about what specific functionality in the core apps, Outlook, SPO and MS teams deliver the most significant value.
Marijn explains that he has moved to the dark side on the side of the user. All because they have cookies. Marijn shouts out that he will be on Blame the end-user video and the boys call out about the people they are collaborating with.
Steve eventually starts with Parallelism, not a cult but looking at how the F1 teams manage with reductions in all areas for 2021 and looking to make every bit of resources count. So how can we parallel that to the adoption of Office365?
Steve suggests we look at the Big sell for the big 3 apps in M365.
Outlook always goes first, so what adds the most significant value, steve suggests it connects to all the other content in the Cloud ecosystem. The value of such things like adding an attachment in a literal few seconds.
Marijn talks about the Email being a notification tool, but the components are active to respond without leaving the outlook message.
Email keeps you in touch with lots more great notifications like an update by others in co-authored documents. And Dear jeff messages gets the idea of groups notifications and Cortana groups all the updated together.
Lists become a valuable item for SharePoint as well as a massive shout out for Metadata from Marijn. Steve reminds us that now on Lists, you get comments by default.
It all just happens, fantastic!
Steve learns something new following on from checking in with Marijn about auto-tagging in folders. With MS teams, this makes your folder view from your channels become dynamic metadata driven libraries.
Marijns value for MS teams is about everything in one place… much of it as an extension of collaboration.
They talk about virtual events and how repetitive they have become because they are all the same. Then they remind us that Ignite the Spring event has been scheduled for March.
The boys lower the tone a little by suggesting that we only attend meetings Partly dressed and take the session with a twinkle in the eye
Then there is a hint of the new WhiskyAtEase YouTube channel to be launched soon as Steve and Marijn got together over the holidays to record the first Whisky Journey across Scotland. Watch this space.
Finally finishing off with a conversation about eating in the lockdown the boys eventually start to get to the subject of this podcast MOCA, the Modern Collaboration Architecture…
Successful collaboration means getting the community time, individual time, and team time in the right proportion
The Microsoft adoption web site S&M check out the MOCA one page PDF and the supporting slide show.
There is a lot of conversation around the value of community in the business supporting the development of innovation at the coffee machine that is not available in lockdown. Steve suggests that community-time is management driven community time within an ever-filled calendar.
How do you encourage Lockdown community? People need time to interact as a community for personal development and to discuss ideas when there is pressure to meet goals and focus on delivery
The MOCA document shows SWAY which Marijn says must be SharePoint… is he saying Sway is not a collaboration tool 😊
Performing in a team means getting support for community time and individual time
There is a discussion about the Team's applications to use. Steve suggestions that published content does not belong in OneNote. It is a NOTE book, not a sway PAGE.
Teams are discussed, and the suggested number of 5-12 is explained as a scientific fact around quantity v Qualitative and how decisions can be agreed quickly with the right number.
Steve talks about a solution for ensuring sites are correctly aligned with the governance so Site Owners can adjust their settings if needed.
The boys have a long chat about the ratio of time between Community, Individual and Team time that ensures a team member has time to be creative and support the team goal
This is an unusual finish for an O365Distilled podcast because neither of the boys gets on with the Whisky they have chosen to taste; it leaves an oily finish that they find unpleasant. But they still finish the glass.
The Guys continue their conversation when the Microphones turn on about their failed Wish.com purchases… leads nicely into a talk about Quality and level of value…
So there are definitions of maturity for M365 which starts at 100 and moves through 5 levels 100 to 500.
Steve works through the Differences and Definitions and the boys look to understand the people who will drive maturity…
The 25-year-old millennial who drives change because they need new tools and don’t want to work with old tools that have been around for 20 years.
Steve gets a little hissy about the value of the individual when it comes to measuring the organisation maturity… and Marijn drops his ‘It Depends’ when considering how to drive the change forward.
The conclusion is that Chaotic theory will kick in and groups of people will drive forward their areas because of individual motivation.
Steve makes Marijn look at the maturity level and decide if he is for them or against them… he sees that they are a great baseline. They try to work out how to create the baseline…
Marijn makes a list of the things that you are looking to achieve with the business and Steve keeps trying to get Marijn to see that some measurement is required… so that continual improvement can continue you need to understand the start.
Level 100 is often defined by the lack of consistency in how Microsoft 365 is used across the organisation leading to confused and frustrated users. Islands of Expertise be a positive but as people move from island to island the experience is different
The conversation turns to looking at how this might be affected by the size of the organisation… will 5 people move to higher levels quicker than say 5000…
At Level 200 where a common understanding exists then new changes and updates can be fitted in… Level 200 means that an organisation has a set of common policies that the whole company can work towards.
Marijn points out that this enables the standards to be based on the business needs and values are…
Level 300 is the minimum target where Collaboration becomes a standard process, and the role of the consultant is to ensure that the company gest to Level 300.
Real value is obtained when you measure the maturity of the company and productivity score considering them together. Together they provide the reference points that can drive change and Continual improvement
At level 300 the organization will start to see real improvement in the way the organization communicates and changes.
Reaching 400 means that the Business trust the technology and the service providers. However too much formality can reduce agility…
Maybe the move to level 400 does not work for your organization so care is needed to ensure that a formal approach with automation does not reduce the ability to develop further.
At level 500 the company is better managed with automation as standard replacing many regular functions previously manage manually or driven by manual processes
The optimization at Level 500 use as it is appropriate.
In conclusion defining the development and levels of maturity it provides a basis for management to define the level of change needed and to justify the costs that it will take and enables a value to be defined
Then it is time to go to the Ilse of Aaron on the west coast of Scotland for our whisky tasting for a whisky named after a famous stone that gets the name… ‘elegance in a bottle’
Marijn askes a great question of the listeners… How did we change your mind about something over the last 50 episodes?
Start with a technical discussion on recording the podcast before Marijn gets into some strange and good news.
Jon, Shaun, and Matt get a mention for their Microsoft Refresh YouTube show about new products
Steve shouts out that he focuses on the latest news from Microsoft and how companies forget that technology depreciates
Marijn spills the beans and… Confesses he might be wrong about Sway… he received a Sway and he admits his adoration for a well crafted communication…
Marijn admits he is in denial
Inevitably the technical conversation turns to Whisky early on in this podcast… and Steve amazes Marijn with a whisky that 49 podcasts in we have never tasted this…
14 weeks and counting before the O365Distilled Japanese Whisky tour and Steve preparation through the various TV shows on Japan
Setting targets are important. what is the KPI for the number of Japanese tastings will take place?
The role of Microsoft 365 admins, service owners and consultants in Enterprise Digital Transformation is discussed.
First… do organisations really want to do Digital Transformation or is reality the minimum path to the solution with least transformation
Is Digital Transformation a yellow Camero transforming into the alien defending robot?
Is Digital transformation possible without the SharePoint collaboration team… especially with the constant change in the digital landscape
Marijn like the word better… better refinement, better compliance, after inventing Easify as a new word for the world
Click Boom Wow… a SPO library showing on your native laptop with one click
My Transformation verse My teams transformation is analysed
Bribery is discussed as a change and adoption tool for the ‘team Digital Transformation’ individual enthusiasm for the change is a key steppingstone to success
Steve gets is user story points and stories and measurements all mixed up…
Identifying the ‘Enterprise tools’ that drive digital transformation across the teams and their processes, a role for Service owners, administrators and consultants. Where can Power Platform drive efficiency and process change.
Curious users with a Desire to change will drive team Digital transformation
Peoples Ability to change is a must… that’s why A is the fourth later in the change acronym ADKAR
Always changing, the platform is never stable to reinforce the change… but maybe of
As in previous Lockdown episodes you get 2 whisky tastings simply due to not being in the same room. Steve surprises Marijn with the Caol Ila Whisky and the boys cannot believe that we have not tasted it before…. And then Marijn introduces a change in his taste starting to love a drink that previously he has not really appreciated… Sway and Whisky Transformation for Marijn…
First subject is about ‘The Week that was’ and Steve talks about an approach to migrating intranet content and at a high-level what approach to take.
Cortex released the first iteration SharePoint Syntex and Marijn makes a commitment to collaborate with himself to get a great understanding of the new products and direction that Cortex is taking.
Then Steve and Marijn look at the upcoming releases and taking a few each explain why it has value to the work we are doing now or just because it’s cool
Marijn predictably starts with the Obvious teams one… Breakout rooms and Steve thinks about what breakout rooms we might have at the Christmas party… and beyond!! And how most of the time will be spent naming the rooms and how Forms will help with the efficiency of deciding the room names…
Its pretty cool how the organizer can set up the rooms and send people to their room. When everyone is brought back together all their collaboration content which is shared back with everyone when the breakout rooms are dissolved
https://youtu.be/cKp0QRORQfQ has great overview of the new Breakout Room features
The next item selected is around SharePoint and enabling modern experience on Classic sites. Able to migrate a classic site and then implement the modern experience.
Marijn then hits us with his number 2 which is all about the external collaboration with folks outside the organization.
Project Moka gets a mention and Marijn’s frustration with no external sharing. Finally, Steve shocks Marijn with the news that Whiteboards will be stored in SPO libraries later in 2021 and get retention and label capabilities
SharePoint Spaces (Project Moka) is still being worked on as a new release is discussed and Marijn considers how spaces should be more like a Virtual headset game and approving a document can be accomplished by slashing it with a light sabre…
Steve talked about tags and metadata for containers which is imminent and so required to do site lifecycle
The boys then find that the next item for discussion is the same… both think that calendar lists will be cool so that any list with a data can be shown in a calendar view… and suggests to any partners listening that being able to take that item as a ICS exported file would have value.
Steve pops the cork on a whisky bottle to remind Marijn that the podcast is moving on and then some frustration is shown about the baby Power Platform for MS teams that is due on a MS team somewhere near you.
The improved reporting on SharePoint sites hits the stage to give some feedback on site usage so that proper decisions can be made on site lifecycle.
Then the boys start to play with the sounds that a Whisky bottle makes when the cork is removed and it is poured into a glass… Due to the lockdown 2 whisky’s are discussed and how far apart they are…
Marijn drinks from Scotland Jura Superstition and Steve takes a dram from Belgium Wild Weasel… Steve wins the decision on best name…
Marijn describes his 7-minute wake up with Google and his shower fantasy around Google Routines before realizing that this podcast had started.
Being in lockdown means that you get two whiskies tasted at the end…
Eventually, Steve asks the questions ‘How do we collaborate?’ and stopped Marijn using the standard response ‘It depends’
Marijn takes a customer from Happy to Fear to Content and Amazed
Considering how to collaborate the tools are discussed but are ‘How to Collaborate’ and is it Co-authoring, voyeurism or collaboration… or even stalking…
Points to consider when thinking about collaboration… understanding the exact goal, timeline, and purpose for the collaboration
Before answering How to Collaborate we need a definition of ‘what is collaboration’ suggests Marijn
Collaboration is defined by the dictionary and after a few minutes conclude collaboration is about working together or not!
Both agree that the Goal must be understood by everyone
… but for every meeting we attend is the goal of the meeting clear to everyone…
More Collaboration Statements
Ø The Nature of collaboration involves people with different priorities working together
Ø Collaboration needs a plan… a purpose
Ø Collaboration works best with full and open transparency
Ø The Goal must be understood by everyone
The love-hate relationship between the Office365 team and security is laughed at
Great collaborative decisions are based on strong diverse opinions
And Marijn talks about his tool and capacity…
The definition of collaboration is when everyone agrees to disagree!! So Collaboration is about managing the process and configuring the tools that drive continually improved decisions
Business need to discover the art of using the tools
Michelangelo directed the brush maker to give him the right tools to create the Sistine Chapel [Assumed]
… some quotes [ I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free | Genius is eternal patience.]
Following the logic of a diverse team causing great collaboration, Steve talks about Spotify and how they create squads with diversity and alignment creating collaboration
Collaboration needs the courage to understand something is hard alongside people who are driven to just make things happen.
Marijn works out that the A-team was a perfect collaboration of A bunch of people with their own skill sets and a common goal
Moving to the tools Steve asks how you drive adoption with so many diverse tools… and Marijn says MS teams is not always the answer
But leaving the business to decide the tools leads to 50 people collaborating on a single OneNote file which include multiple PowerPoints and spreadsheets… not exactly a low-risk solution
43 minutes the 5 step approach Marijn asks what is the 5 step approach to successful collaboration
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Ask how the team creates their ideas today… see how they work
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Understand process and timelines for collaboration and how they communicate
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Tools that best support this
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How do you collate the answers and output?
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How do you apply the changes and new ideas?
A podcast that is Back to Basics which is a key attribute of Continual Improvement so going back to ask, How, Why, and What we collaborate
Where Marijn tells everyone to ‘grab themselves’ (when he means 'hold on a second') whilst he works out the name he wants to give a shout out to!! The Adoption and Change Management teams Europe User Group. Marijn name drops galore but we love their online sessions talking about PROSCI and ADKAR. ACMteams.com is simpler than the full name…
MS Teams requires a different type of adoption so the boys discuss why and Steve explains it is based on complexity and Marijn adds the point that the users really need to change the way they work when moving from SharePoint/Outlook to MS Teams.
The question of building a change program is discussed in a world where change is constant, and it is accepted by everyone… so change needs to be laser-focused…
Does a new tool require a change program or just a new set of instructions?
Steve explains his change strategy based on 1,2 3 basing changes on where people are at! So that change programs can be measured… how do you include KPI’s to understand the measurement of ROI in a change program.
The question about if Change is operational and part of the ‘Run’ requirements for Office365 and Marijn talks about how the focus has changed from Governance to Adoption…
The ultimate rule of change and upgrade is discussed which is “do not affect the ability for the company to deliver” and then how the ROI is going to improve the people, efficiency the ability to deliver constant improvement to the business
Conspiracy theory abounds to question if MSTeam's adoption is so important because the app is not really needed!! I have SharePoint and Outlook which works for me. Adoption is important because the tools are so entirely different and adoption is needed because the added value has to be defined for each aspect of the business.
Identify the advantage of MS teams and find the story that the business and the users want to hear to drive them to change…
"MS Teams, it's only fun when everyone else is doing it…"
Defining the people change levels, high ROI is when you have everyone at level 3
3- Someone who takes on new Tools and works out the new advantages
2-These guys need to be trained and taught and
1- Needs to be convinced they need to change.
But overall the organization needs to ‘corporately’ know where they want to go with MS teams.
Define the MVP! is it simply ‘we just want to talk to each other’ or moving collaboration from SharePoint to full integration with communication.
MS Teams new way of working is because nobody read their emails any more… So the key question is “What is the first skill you teach somebody in MS teams”
Marijn goes with Enterprise Chat because it is WhatsApp or Messenger… In many cases messaging is new for lots of people
MS Team… convincing people that they can send messages instead of emails… how do you convince people to use teams instead of emails?
Define the rules of Messaging V Emails
Should there be a tool that says this email is short enough for a message so I will send the message instead. Is this where outlook spaces sit. who knows…?
Productivity Score could be a solution to assess the level of ROI for changes and productivity.
Some assumptions are available that need careful assessment but could tell you how well change is being accepted. Alongside the MyAnalytics tools
The productivity score will track changes over time which can be aligned to the change goals of the business for example are more people messaging today than 6 months ago… did the change messages get through.
Inevitably the boys talk about how people are changing their view about work. With potential savings for the company and a difference of opinion from the workforce, some wanting full time at home and others a few days per week the productivity score maybe is a toolset for assessing and driving the change.
Steve covers how time and effort can be saved plus real-time minute taking in a collaborative way.
The change team, HR, C-Levels can now get some recorded statistics on the efficiency of the business and some real answers to the questions of ‘How much extra are user working’ ‘The average working day and changes over time’
@48 minutes: Marijn has had a long day and forces Steve to stop talking and drink a Whisky from Glasgow the Auchentoshan Blood Red, finished in a Red Wine Wood.
“OCK-UN-TOSH-UN” Challenging to say, easy to drink
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Amongst the items talked about before the guys do a little Swedish are:
Whisky@Ease is a new podcast channel from the boys reversed from Office365 with 80% Whisky and 20% tech. Just for those that value the lifestyle of Work hard - Play hard
Marijn comes up with an EPIC tag line for Whisky@ease… longer than War and Peace when Steve shares the more accurate line of
www.WhiskyAtEase.com
Chilled, Unfiltered and Aged
Marijn finds that when he talks like an 8-year-old his audience understands more as he struggles with the guilt of his daughter failing a school project about his job
Microsoft Book of News gets the #Office365Distilled treatment as Steve and Marijn pick out their best items in terms of importance and usefulness… top of the list for both is Cortana
We come up with a new Cortana tag line… Hey, Cortana fix my Shit! and then try and work out if Cortana might ever be jealous because we went to Alexa first!!
Steve as always forgets the name of the guy who demonstrated Cortana slicing-and-dicing data through voice commands (Joe Belfiore). Part of the journey that got Cortana to the point where we are today.
Dear Jeff letter appears again trying to understand why Just because I am living in Belgium and speaking English I cannot get Cortana, but I can if I happened to be in the UK?
Cortana is congratulated on becoming of age and is now a Mother of all AI…
Cortana is a MILF (Master Information Life Force) !!
Steve selects an item where Excel can now connect to PowerBi data enabling all the cool Pivot tools and queries to be applied to a BI data set for all those people who create macros and the family of tactical tools that focus the migration team when the files need to move
Bookings get a kick in the right direction as it moves to Enterprise acceptance and goes beyond booking a hair appointment.
The conversation turns to the places that Microsoft store new applications with Blob stores, Common Data set Model…
Marijn gets greedy with all the new features that are announced in the Book of News around MS Teams. “ Marijn you were told to choose 3 “
The conversation’s around the ‘Home’ site for SharePoint and if this is the Intranet home or if there are two start locations… In-reality the starting point depends on where you want to go. Will the Home App be the real front door and work seamlessly in MS Teams we shall see.
Marijn is looking at all the options for the together mode including the Gentlemen’s club Together room.
Productivity Score mode enables the ability to measure the success of your adoption programs, updates, are training courses changing people… are your people adapting the challenges of Remote working
New Stream brings a few questions on what we can expect this quarter and the SPO templates that will host the videos and the web parts that will play the videos… lots of new, exciting stuff to look forward to.
Will Syntex be used or will it fade away because existing applications like Financial and procurement systems are already doing it… we shall see how the business reacts when we can demonstrate it…
Marijn sneaks in two items, not in the Book of News like how Project Oakdale will bring MS teams with its own ‘baby’ PowerApps and Off-line list storage…
And again, we keep asking where Outlook Spaces have gone to after the tease last year… Dear Jeff… you’re a big tease!!
EP44 where we say…
Marijn is proud that his customer was in the keynotes and Steve thought it great that his Ignite Bacon was displayed to everyone on Marijn’s Tweet. The boys talk about the great stack that was displayed across all the opening keynotes. Knowing what it represents but not sure what to call it… lets go with the Microsoft Cloud Stack…
After getting diverted by Steve’s home domesticity and Marijn wondering about the water running he can hear we do a quick mention about how Marijn is going to take time off and learn Azure in a week…. Good luck with that!! 🤣🤣
The Stack is described with Identity, Security, management, and Compliance in the basement with the guys that run it… the Azures, Power Platform and the Big Boys toys sitting on top.
The core intelligence is tied throughout the stack and allow skills like Graph and AI to be incorporated across all the toys.
Git Hub starts to bother Marijn aligned to the Power platform on the same layer and the boys consider what value it will bring to the game. It allows an enterprise to tie all the tools into the same assurance platform
S&M talk about Dynamics being in the Big Boys Toys section where Marijn again reminds everyone he has a certificate in this space….
Then Steve asks what is missing, what are we not seeing in the Cloud Stack. The OS is questioned and as Microsoft365 includes so much about setting up the edge devices and Steve goes with defining and describing all the cloud functionality delivered by Microsoft…
Marijn asks if we are now at full circle with an ecosystem that defines the Microsoft offering, then Marijn wonders if Edge needs to be identified and the boys need to find something wrong because it feels like someone should..
HoloLens has been hanging and now has a place to connect to Dynamics in the presentation.
Devices get a few minutes of time when the guys talk about the Surface Duo and the Surface meeting screens along with Cortana managing so much… just to stop hands free operation in Covid times… For example: Is it really dumb luck that the Surface pens work on all devices and it supports the issue with sharing pens in these times of COVID?
A discussion takes place on if there is a wizard that could understand the whole Cloud stack or if it is too diverse, too big for a simple human brain…. And consider the dev guys that take a bigger role in the stack.
Steve continues to get Conditional Access mixed up with conditional formatting and Marijn just ensures it is corrected and clear for people.
Steve and Marijn discuss the applications that was demonstrated in the Power Platform presentation from Toyota and how legacy systems can be updated into new technology, available on the phone through the use of connectors and more importantly API’s.
Not forgetting PowerBI in the Power platform to support monitoring and reporting against all the aspects of the Cloud stack.
Before an awesome Smokey whisky they both say what was their favourites and Steve go with the Flight Simulator video that showed the state of the technology over the last 30 years.
Then they taste a Benromach 2008 Bot.2018 Peat Smoke which turns out to be a great drink with an awesome surprise and depth that make this one of the top 5 !!
The Podcast episode with the faded out goodbyes….
Steve can’t leave it alone that Marijn didn’t like the Octomore 9.1 from EP42 so he brings in Sven, one of the Office365Distilled listeners, to show Marijn that this is a pleasant whisky and maybe Marijn is wrong. Although Sven does say that “wow this is like a donkey kicking you where it hurts”.
Starting with the Whisky brings the boys to reminisce about Jack and the special Frank Sinatra Edition the boys tasted in Orlando and then started on Ignite 2020 and the forthcoming conference due in September where some great sessions are planned and the virtual Red Party from Las Vegas is (virtually) happening.
Marijn comes up with a better name… maybe… for Cortex and discussions ensue about the way Microsoft products are names and how the name describes what the product does… or not. Word is a great name describing what it does, and Forms took no imagination and then we wondered who chose Sway!!!
The number of versions is explored, and the boys consider why the number 512 is not possible for a minor version… and do you know how many major versions can be created and that now you can’t leave it blank… it is true that things change in SPO.
And Teams… how is that MS Teams describes the functionality delivered and Jeff is asked to consider ‘frontpage’ as an alternative answer… then a second service announcement is described with some issues around blocking connectors… sent to Microsoft engineering for resolution…
A discussion ensues about Power Automate and its connection to Dynamics another names that is discussed before Power Apps gets a thumbs up on the names front.
Visio takes some punishment until the boys work out that it might be “Visual Input Output” a real nerd name for a product and they work out that naming things might not be as simple as you might think… especially if you are too chilled… But Windows has some crap associated with ‘Windows of opportunity’ and floppy disks drag them both into the world of pixelated screens…
Steve and Marijn talk to a regular listener to the podcast @Dylan_Hayes who talks about setting up his home office so that he can give professional quality presentations with switched cameras, virtual desktops and some great tips on doing the one-person presentation.
Then the guys talk about the forthcoming Microsoft 365 Lists application and how it can improve the management of data and looking at adoption and enablement across the business. They discuss Governance of M365 Lists and some thoughts on use and functionality.
Steve gets a little sarcastic about the number of monitors you need whilst working from home… the ‘New Normal’ and value of Pop-out meetings in MS teams. Finally, the suggestion of timing your adoption for MS teams so that you can run with the release of the new application in your own tenant. Then Marijn adds his sarcasm about how difficult some companies make change and cannot bring themselves to accept new applications.
They align SharePoint and the DB app Access and discuss how SharePoint now maps to the structure of the desktop DB app and think about how Excel is abused as content repository tool and then emailed to everyone.
They show their age and forget the names of colleagues (sorry Joanne !!) who they had dinner with @ignite and Marijn takes another swipe @Sway still not finding the business case for the product... the boys cannot leave it alone…
Then they go back to the first distillery they tasted on EP1 for a bottle named after the farm that grows the barley which makes this very special whiskey limited to just 4200 bottles and described as “An iron Fist in A Velvet Glove” the Bruichladdich Octomore 09.1 a very peated whiskey that only one of the duo enjoyed.
The only thing they agreed one was… “There is nothing delicate about this whisky” and beware Marijn says he will drink it again but only to ensure his friends get the taste it and he can watch!!
Steve and Marijn suffer by recording during the heatwave and Steve get his Billions and Trillions mixed up. Then they make assumptions about customers knowing why they move to Microsoft365 considering the enterprise vision.
The key subject for EP41 is about measuring success and defining the KPI for collaboration based on Marijn’s mother bitching about being upgraded to office365 and maybe the result of a poor adoption path (sorry Mum)
Should IT change… and how do you measure that change moving forward considering costs, flexibility, and value in an Agile world especially considering ITIL and other quality markers.
Marijn discussed his holiday reading material before starting to breakdown how we can measure collaboration by asking users about their experience. He is definitely onto something here… check it out.
Unbelievably this is an Office365Distilled podcast that sticks to the main subject of measuring success of a cloud migration… yes, I know… amazing!!
Finally, before the tasting of an evening French Whisky, the boys ask the question if the feedback from this measure helps make the decisions on new features and how the business will accept them.
Over 40 hours of recorded Podcast time together there is an awesome lot to bring to a special 40th edition podcast. But as usual the boys do it with panache and humor with a new idea or two on discussed subjects.
Lets ignore the very special Whisky Steve and Marijn taste, although they both agree it was so very cool it is difficult to ignore but for the taste and the diverse way it was produced and finished in a barrel that will not stay straight and whisky proof. We should focus on the updating of such topics as Dynamic Stability, Digital Illiteracy and Baseline Governance in the Office365 world.
We started this for fun and 40 podcasts later it is even more fun… rock on to the next 40.
Episode 39 of the office 365 Distilled podcast where they look at securing our content and how it gets in the way of collaboration and user adoption… but mainly they both forget what they are saying and Marijn says “… no I do not want to eat my potatoes” as a metaphor for telling security that the balance should be towards great adoption and not great security… Life, like Office365, is a balance between protection and availability.
How many ways can you access your content in Microsoft 365, listen, and enjoy the exploration of your content in the Microsoft cloud service. Steve and Marijn work through as many of the content access apps, tools, and browser windows for a practical, touchy feely session for the End Users.
Steve talks about how Office365 is like an Apple with content at the core and Marijn goes to Australia with an example of how he can keep his boss happy by getting to his content anyplace anytime. Steve then gets it very wrong by saying there are thousands of file types supported in M365 when there are hundreds and Marijn cannot remember how to ‘Save a Document till later’.
Finally, the boys taste bottle number 1185 of a limited-edition Writers tears from the emerald Isle and demonstrate why it is a bad idea to start the show by ‘just tasting’ the whiskey to confirm it is OK
From a holiday Bar-B Q to a podcast, Marijn and Steve join the same lockdown bubble so they can get back to the Old Normal of doing the podcast in the same room and drinking a whisky from the same bottle. Subjects are very much focused on knowledge and business after their presentations on the Global Microsoft 365 Marathon event.
This podcast is about Microsoft’s biggest 365 update, is M365 being dumbed-down and Scotland’s smallest distillery all inside an hour (and a bit) of Steve and Marijn talking crap at a well-stocked bar…
Another episode from lockdown where Steve and Marijn are talking from afar. Main topics today are the new found governance needs after Teams is rolled out and scenarios for Microsoft Bookings.
They also talk about the Duo phone specs and rolling out MS Teams in a day. A cask strength whiskey from the Orkney islands burns the mouths with spicy chilly!
They talk about the ‘Fèis Ìle’ whisky festival on the Scottish ‘Isle of islay’ where they had both planned on attending this week before lockdown.
Marijn and Steve prepare for the Microsoft Virtual Marathon Speakers event by discussing their upcoming sessions on Working with the Business for Search and the future Project Cortex product sets.
They compare B2B and B2C concepts around partnerships and suggest that B2IT is the coming partnership of the future. For success IT will need to depend on deep Transparent relationships with the business as cloud services bed down as a solid strategy and changes the need for real time requirements.
Episode 34 is a roller coaster of a podcast that flew by as we recorded it a sign of good fun.
This completely unedited version talks about application governance and how different this is to content Governance. It commiserates with the fact that we cannot travel to Madrid for Microsoft 365 Saturday… on a Wednesday!!
We talk about the large number of MS team updates and changes from the road map and finish with 2 awesome whisky tastings from opposite sides of the world. Welcome to Episode 34 and make sure you catch the end… we sort of went inappropriately nuts!!!
Steve gets excited about the release of the 3 things that impressed him most from Ignite 2019… Search upgrades, Content Type and managed Metadata Admin centers and project Cortex leading to a discussion of the implications on the business for these new technologies… all coming to a tenant near you soon
Baseline governance on Stream because it’s available anyway in E3! Steve and Marijn talk about Stream using baseline Governance to define the Office 365 video service and options for releasing the product.
Then they taste a very usual whisky you can get from the local shop in these times of lock-down homeworking. This episode is about getting value… from stream video and the whisky
OK, we accept that this episode the word Corona Virus is mentioned a few too many times, with reverence always, because this is a global serious moment. We commend Microsoft and other vendors for taking advantage and offering free licences and designing specific applications to support business and mention Mobile applications, and warning people not to have live MS teams video conferences whilst driving.
We look at options for managing large files in SharePoint Online from corporate scanners suggested by @Anacozeca , how Mobile apps continue to surprise with sneaked in updates and finally taste a very special Bourbon from the state of Kentucky direct from store number 55 , barrel 66-C. We do finish on a very low note having decided not to cut out the final comments and even Thunderbirds the cartoon series gets a mention.
We never believed that we would get to 30 but this is the episode in which we drink English whisky provided by @CatchMatt one of the jogging listeners and talk about racist applications or maybe users who believe the application world is flat.
Yes this is another ravishing and overfilled episode that is just so much fun… enjoy. Steve & Marijn
In this episode Marijn and Steve discuss the new SharePoint libraries now appearing in teams as well as trying to think what a barrel repair man is called and are amazed at the number of admins that it takes to change an Office 365 Light-bulb. An Irish whisky with a green paint splodge is tasted that has the essence of a premier Cru Bordeaux wine cask and gets the Office365Distilled seal of approval.
Tobermory is the distillery of choice with Office365 questions before and after the whisky.
Episode 28 where one Millennial consultant and one Age-Experienced consultant disagree and go around in circles and never quite meet in the middle…
The question of not rolling out the Office 365 big three keeps the boys talking and wondering if To-Do should be the first app to adopt… or maybe not!
Steve and Marijn take time to look at examples of MS Teams in business, bars and golf courses. They talk about great team building events like create a list of swear words for good solid business reasons!!
Steve adds some words about #ScrwDUP where we celebrate failure with cakes and a party
All the challenges of an International podcast when an Architect, Consultant, Technical Evangelist and Marketing Manager walk into a bar… and introduce themselves over a drink….. Welcome to the office365 distilled Xmas Podcast with some very special guests
David Leveille, Anna Chu, Christina Wheeler, Sandy Ussia join Marijn and Steve to chat about their 2019 and what Father Christmas left them under the tree.
Where Marijn and Steve talk about how the role of Governance in Office365 will rise in 2020 and the list of decisions that need to be made will grow substantially.
Suggest that a ponzi scheme would be good for adoption and drink a whisky https://vimeo.com/301209700
Marijn and Steve when to Microsoft Ignite 2019 and on Thursday did their second podcast... fun was had chatting about Governance and MS teams, Spray cans, Scalpels and the feeling of being in a glass bowl around 25,000 people.
Live from MSIgnite 2019 in Orlando Steve and Marijn take a shot of what has impressed them from the keynote speech and the feeling that Microsoft are very focused on the "Trust us with your data" message
Where Steve and Marijn talk about the great SharePoint Saturday community and specific SPS Belgium with some live recording from the event and think about MS Teams and how surprisingly it is still not been rolled out everywhere.
So Marijn and Steve taste the first Rye Whiskey from Eire in 100 years and more importantly the do a baseline Governance look at the remaining office 365 apps and look at making a snap decisions on where you might go with the various applications.
This is a big one, our longest podcast yet and a promise we will never go this long again!! However applying baseline governance to all O365 apps is a big project.
This is the first of a series of Podcasts looking at Baseline Governance (gut feel governance) of all the O365 apps. Pt. 2 is coming soon.
But we have not finished yet. We will go through all the apps in separate podcasts looking at Governance options and controls for individual apps. Hope you enjoy.
Where Marijn and Steve talk about their proposals to speak at ignite and expand on a post Marijn read looking at the expended role of Office 365 influencer, a kind of ambassador on steroids
Where Anna Chu from Microsoft joins the team to tell us how to make the best submission on your application to be a part of the Community at Ignite 2019 in Orlando
Where Steve and Marijn discuss the Microsoft promises from Ignite and are surprised to find that much has been delivered or being rolled out. So only a few to mention. They taste the delicious Lagavulin 16-year-old whisky from Isley in Scotland and even add a little water for more surprises
Where Marijn and Steve talk about change being normal and describe how to change the people and not the technology or tools. Then they taste 7 different whiskys.
Where we discuss the annoucements from SharePoint NA conference and start a conversation about changing the people and not the technology. To be Continued in EP15
Where Steve and Marijn talk about Communicating changes to users and taste a Scottish single malt Talisker Port Ruighe.
Office 365 Distilled EP 12: Seal team 6 delivering Communication Governance by Steve & Marijn
In this episode, Steve and Marijn talk about folders vs metadata. Where is all the metadata love now that Teams or OneDrive sync creates folders everywhere? We end with one of the best irish whiskies.
Episode 9 of Office 365 Distilled. The podcast where Steve Dalby and Marijn Somers distill Office 365 and finish off by reviewing a nice whisky.
The Boys hit the Formula 1 testing in Barcelona and record Episode 8 from the morning sunshine of this great city.
Another laidback episode of "Office 365 Distilled", where we dig deeper in the why by looking at what are you trying to achieve? Improve collaboration in your organisation or better protection of my IPR / content
Welcome to another episode of Office 365, the first one in 2019 where we talk groups, groups and groups.
Welcome to another laid back, chill, distilled conversation about Office 365 and a taste of a brilliant winter bourbon This episode we talk about what the top questions are when you are doing a rush job for a greenfield customer and share what we are doing and pondering about.
Let us know what your thoughts were about this episode in the comments, or talk to us on twitter: @marijnsomers and @seisteve.
Welcome to another laid back, chill, distilled conversation about Office 365 and end on the other side of the planet with a japanese whisky! This episode we talk about conditional formatting in SharePoint and share what we are doing and pondering about.
Let us know what your thoughts were about this episode in the comments, or talk to us on twitter: @marijnsomers and @seisteve.
Welcome to another laid back, chill, distilled conversation about Office 365 and end with a nice irish whiskey! This episode we talk about baseline governance and share what we are doing and pondering about.
Let us know what your thoughts were about this episode in the comments, or talk to us on twitter: @marijnsomers and @seisteve.
Welcome to another laid back, chill, distilled conversation about Office 365 and end with a nice Bourbon!
We had an awesome turnout for our first episode, over 85 plays! Let us know what your thoughts were about our first episode and this second one in the comments, or talk to us on twitter: @marijnsomers and @seisteve.
In this second episode, we talk about traditional Office 365 rollouts and Microsoft Teams!
First episode of Office 365 Distilled. The podcast where Steve Dalby and Marijn Somers distill Office 365 and finish off by reviewing a nice whisky. In this episode, we each talk about the coolest thing from Ignite 2018 and finish off with a nice Bruichladdich 2007.