Big Brown Army: Recent Episodes
DeCruz
Big Brown Army is just that: a one man big army. Tune in weekly to hear DeCruz banter with his friends and go on long rants about the state of the mainstream media, politics, and sports.
DeCruz's friend Josh returns to talk about American Politics and how it connects to the Christian faith. The beginning of a series on how the ballot box and the pulpit talk to each other.
DeCruz and Jordi come back to the airwaves to detail another eventful week in this late stage of the Republic.
Trump, Santos, and more.
DeCruz and Jordi return for an episode about EVERYTHING. DeCruz addresses his style of conservatism and Jordi continues on her stand against big government.
Articles referenced:
Billy Binion's Reason article on Geraldine Tyler's case before the Supreme Court
WaPo Opinion on Kamala Harris in 2024 by Eugene Robinson
Scientific American article on why the term 'JEDI' is problematic
Rebekah Bastion's Forbes article on 'A Rise in Biased Job Language...'
Jordi and DeCruz are back! This week, they discuss the recent cable news firings and the Republican Presidential field for 2024 . Also, Tom Holland recap.
Note/Correction: DeCruz said that Vivek Ramaswamy is polling at 14%. This is incorrect.
British historian and author, Tom Holland, joins DeCruz for a conversation on just about everything. Tom is the author of several historical works including: Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World, Rubicon, and Persian Fire.
He's also co-host of the podcast, The Rest is History along with Dominic Sandbrook.
He can be followed online on Twitter at @holland_tom
This week, Allan Varghese Meloottu joins the Big Brown Army. A PhD scholar from Asbury Theological Seminary, Allan was right in the middle of the Outpouring at Asbury University which started on February 8. He shares a few more details on what happened and answers larger questions about what it means for our culture.
Allan's Twitter.
Allan's paper on Dalit Pentecostals in India.
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DeCruz and Jordi are back with balloons. Just for you!
Episode Title brought to you by Jordi!
Jordi and DeCruz return to talk about another singular topic. State Dinners, what are they and why does Jordi hate them so much?
DeCruz and Jordi start off the year with a breakdown of the George Santos saga. George Santos is a freshman Republican Congressman with a very dubious origin story.
Jordi and DeCruz return to talk about their interesting lives off of the podcast and really really unsatisfying election results for the Republicans in 2022. Also, the Return of Trump.
Jordi and DeCruz return for more Midterm Election nonsense. And Elon Musk takes over Twitter. Will DeCruz finally get unblocked by major journalists?
DeCruz's friend, Josh Kilen, joins the podcast to talk about the evolution of his political thought and to share parts of his amazing life story.
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DeCruz and Jordi are back with another roundup of stories around the world. What does the short-lived reign of UK Prime Minister Liz Truss have to do with a head (ball) of lettuce?
Show notes:
1. Kshama Sawant feces story with pictures of the suspect. 2. Common Sense article on Jane’s Revenge’s reign of terror. 3. Jane’s Revenge website 4. AQI-Cigarette Calculator
The last episode wasn't enough so Jordi and DeCruz are back to opine more on what's been happening in these United States. Tune in to hear about their thoughts on the Mid-Terms and Immigration.
Jordi and DeCruz are back for another episode for This Week! They cover a lot of politics and culture that happened during the hiatus.
Unfortunately, DeCruz doesn't have access to his regular microphone so the audio quality isn't the best this week. Apologies!
Jordi and DeCruz are back to take on this week's news updates. Also, stay listen for DeCruz's rant on what's happening in China.
Jordi and DeCruz are back with another weekly update as they recap Russia's dismal foray into Ukraine and Hunter Biden's laptop story that just won't go away. How much did you pay to fill up your gas tank this week?
DeCruz and Ray are back. DeCruz shares an update on his Dad and all that's happened in his life recently. Also discussed: The Slap Heard Around the World.
Apologies for the technical difficulties in this episode.
Jordi and DeCruz meet again as the World turns. Could Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer's retirement mean there's a significant change for the Biden administration? Is Joe Biden Putin's lapdog? Hear answers to these questions and more.
Ray and DeCruz are back giving you the best navel-gazing nonsense on culture and politics.
DeCruz and Jordi kick off the New Year with a Week in Review-- as is tradition. Here's to another year of pointing out the absurdity in mainstream culture and politics.
Ray and DeCruz come back to explain what's been going on at Big Brown Army during the prolonged absence and discuss movies, family, etc.
DeCruz and Jordi return after another long break to discuss the Week in Review.
Important tidbits: DeCruz finally got the 'Rona, Jordi's kids hate wearing Halloween costumes, and some other unimportant things.
DeCruz and Jordi return to another Week in Review to discuss COVID Vaccine Mandates, another Afghanistan update, and unconventional names for girls.
Special thanks to Week in Review co-host for that great title. DeCruz and Jordi discuss the top domestic headlines for you... again.
Karen Swallow Prior's great NYT op-ed on the Texas abortion ban.
David French and Sarah Isgur break down the Texas abortion law and the Supreme Court decision that made heads explode.
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After almost a year and a half, DeCruz, Ray, and Jordi are finally at the 100th Episode. It's been a long journey and we're grateful to all our listeners and fans. Even if you didn't give us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts.
Ray is back after listening to more episodes of the excellent podcast "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill."
Today we talk about Episode 5 and everything horrifying about Mars Hill and its relationship to women.
Jordi and DeCruz return to the Big Brown Army for a Mid-Week Roundup to reflect on the continuing decline of America.
Our leaders make terrible choices and innocent people pay for them. Rinse and repeat.
Ray is back on the Big Brown Army after a long break and so is DeCruz.
Today they reflect on the popular new podcast "The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill"
You can find the podcast here: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/rise-and-fall-of-mars-hill/
Jordi and DeCruz are back for another Week In Review! Why is Mackenzie Bezos the luckiest woman in the world? Jordi has new pets...ones that were rescued from the jaws of a reptile.
DeCruz has questions, you have questions, we all have questions for the hot button topic taking over school boards, legislative sessions, and churches in the US: Critical Race Theory. Thankfully, Bradly Mason joins us on this episode of Big Brown Army to discuss this area of academia and also to answer questions about race and racism in America.
You can find out more on Bradly's work at: alsoacarpenter.com
Find him on Twitter: @alsoacarpenter
DeCruz and Jordi are back for another Week In Review! Is this the episode that finally gets them canceled? Happy Independence Day, everybody!
DeCruz and Jordi are back together for another Week in Review. What's special about this episode? DeCruz just tried a new version of Coke and he's NOT happy about it.
New guest Reggie Thayil joins the Big Brown Army today to chat about his ministry and career combining Christian faith and psychology.
Reggie teaches undergraduate psychology courses at TIU-Florida. He's also the host of his own podcast, I am Barabbas.
You can learn more about Reggie at his website: Thayil Thoughts.
DeCruz and Jordi come back to talk about the week that was. To discuss everything from Al Jazeera to Al Roker. Not really Al Roker.
Jordi and DeCruz get together to bring you the Mid-Week Roundup! Lots of things happening. First, India gets hit with the second wave of the COVID pandemic. Now, they're about to get LA Mayor Eric Garcetti, will the ordeals never cease?
Another Israel-Palestine conflict, another ceasefire, how should Christians view these crises?
Ashish Joy and Joash Thomas join DeCruz to talk about growing up Brown, Evangelical, and with pro-Israel attitudes.
You can find (@storyfocus) Ashish Joy's podcast here: https://futureof.church/
You can find (@joashpthomas)Joash Thomas's latest article for Religion Unplugged here.
That's right! It's a Week in Review! Jordi and DeCruz are back and we're here to give you all the news that's fit to read.. or something like that. We discuss Israel-Palestine, the economy, and why our leaders lie to us.
Ray and DeCruz are back to talk about Israel/Palestine and the CDC with their new mask guidelines.
Warren Mainard, a close friend of DeCruz, joins us on the Big Brown Army today.
Warren is the Executive Director of Impact Players, an organization dedicated to inspiring men to be great husbands, fathers, and leaders.
Warren also does the Impact Players Podcast and the sports podcast Duck & Dawg Show.
Ray and DeCruz address COVID realities around the globe and reflect on the break-up of one of the most prominent couples in the world.
DeCruz, Jordi, and Ray get together to discuss Joe Biden's speech to a joint session of Congress. Also: Jordi shares about the loss of a dear member of the Big Brown Army family.
DeCruz's friend, Pastor Tony Jaime, joins the show to talk about his perspective on COVID-19 and the impact it has made on pastors and the Church in America.
You can learn more about Tony's efforts at www.ravensdalebibleacademy.com.
Ray and DeCruz are back again to talk about literally anything. Tonight, we address Russia's military buildup in Eastern Europe and closer to home, what's the heck is going on with Matt Gaetz?
DeCruz and Jordi come together for another Week in Review! Lots to talk about this week as Biden faces his first major crisis and Georgia becomes the nation's pariah with its new voting law.
Ray and DeCruz are back this week to discuss the idea of success and what should actually matter to us. Get ready for some conversations about faith and chasing the American Dream. Not your typical BBA episode.
DeCruz and Jordi are back for another Week in Review where they discuss the first US-China Diplomatic meeting of the Biden Administration in Anchorage and the fight between Democrats and Republicans about the Senate Filibuster. Also, DeCruz gets his first COVID Vaccine dose.
DeCruz and Ray address what happened in Atlanta on Tuesday with a followup conversation about misogyny in Christian circles. They also talk about racism towards Asians in America. Immigration and a host of other topics as well.
DeCruz may get back on Twitter. May.
The Big Brown Army crew with Jordi, Ray, and DeCruz are back to discuss current events and generally make fun of each other. One of our co-hosts has a history of participating in beauty pageants...guess who?
DeCruz and Ray talk about a wide variety of topics. Everything from NY Governor Cuomo's continued meltdown to that one subject DeCruz doesn't want to talk about. Also, DeCruz doesn't know how to pronounce potpurri.
Jordi and DeCruz get together again for another Week in Review! They discuss BBA Hall of Shame member Andrew Cuomo's latest week from hell, Biden's Middle-East foreign policy, and COVID vaccine updates. Also, will we ever get rid of Trump? If you won the BBA Review contest, please reach out to bigbrownarmy@gmail.com.
DeCruz and Ray are back to discuss some quick items including answering listener mail. They also announce the winner of the Review contest. DeCruz isn't really a foodie, he just likes to consume food. And lots of it.
DeCruz and Ray are back to discuss the latest in news and foolishness around the country. Millions of Texans struggle without power while politicians and journalists try to score points. DeCruz's favorite politician, NY Governor Andre Cuomo continues his great work combating COVID-19 in his state. Tune in for a classic Big Brown Army episode, complete with a blunder-filled opening.
DeCruz quizzes his married friends Ashish and Kaeli about love, relationships, and advice for single people. This is more of a Big Beige Army episode.
DeCruz, Jordi, and Ray meet up again to chat about The Second Great Impeachment, the never-ending war on COVID-19, and a recent spate of cancellations. DeCruz struggles to remember what's actually in the articles of impeachment and tries to get Ray to name his future child after the show. Listen for more shenanigans from your favorite trio.
Jordi and DeCruz are back with another Week in Review episode as we close out the month of January. We inaugurate the Big Brown Army Hall of Shame and induct two new members. Send us your suggestions for who else belongs in our most prestigious group.
Ray and DeCruz address the Gamestop/Reddit/HedgeFund/RobinHood debacle. This is an ongoing news story so some of the facts in this pre-recorded podcast may be outdated. Also, please don't take financial advice from us, we don't know what we're talking about. Especially DeCruz. He just likes to rant.
Ray and DeCruz recap Wednesday's Inauguration of Joe Biden and go over powerful moments like the amazing poem by Amanda Gorman and Garth Brooks singing. This was no "American Carnage."
DeCruz and Jordi tackle the week ahead in their first episode together in 2021. As troops gather in Washington D.C for Joe Biden's Inauguration, the tension is thick. Also, what happens next with Trump's second impeachment?
DeCruz and Ray continue their mid-week ramblings one week after the Storming of the Capitol. They take on topics like #TheGreatPurge and the future of conservatism. Also, Ray continues to drop references to pop culture that DeCruz has no idea about.
In today's special episode, DeCruz chats with his new friend, Anu George Canjanathoppil, who is Executive Director of International Justice Mission in Canada. Anu shares her incredible life story and her passionate heart for global justice. A rudimentary understanding of Malayalam may be needed for this episode.
DeCruz and Ashish take a look at the week that was. 2021 is off to an unbelievable start even by 2020 standards. Will Donald Trump get impeached? What are the consequences of deplatforming a significant number of conservatives from online social media platforms? How do you talk to the conspiracy addled fringe?
After a day of total chaos in the nation's capital, the original Big Brown Army co-hosts lament and discuss what happened and what's ahead. What is the future of the Republican Party? Happy New Year!
DeCruz has a conversation with Dr. Kristin Du Mez, the author of Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation. They talk about the history of white evangelicalism in America and how much the past is responsible for the present. Du Mez is a history professor at Calvin University in Grand Rapids, Michigan. She is also the last Big Brown Army guest of 2020!
DeCruz's friend, Julie George, joins us for a conversation about fitness and nutrition. Julie is a superstar in corporate finance by day and a fitness instructor/ nutrition coach the rest of the time. She's also the founder of The Shape Up Lab which provides "evidence-based nutrition coaching."
You can contact Julie George on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theshapeuplab/
Or at The Shape Up Lab: www.theshapeuplab.com
Joash Thomas leads International Justice Mission's Advocacy & Mobilization efforts in the US Southeast region. He has a Bachelor's degree in International Affairs from Georgia State University, a Master's degree in Political Management from The George Washington University, and is currently pursuing a Master of Theology degree from Dallas Theological Seminary.
DeCruz and Joash have a broad conversation about American Christianity and Joash's stint in the Georgian Republican Party.
Your favorite pals in the podcast world are back to chat about TV shows and visits to the State Penitentiary. Be grateful DeCruz and Ray didn't force you to listen to them reacting to the Star Wars Holiday Special for an entire episode.
DeCruz and his old friend Ashish Joy have a free-flowing conversation about American Christianity, their roots in Indian Pentecostalism, and how they've changed in their outlook over the past two decades.
You can reach Ashish at a.joy@hey.com or his website.
www.ashishjoy.com
DeCruz and Jordi do their last Week In Review episode for 2020. Really, it's only the last episode for this year. Time is a flat circle. Conversations about elections, COVID, and doctorates.
DeCruz and Ray count down the weeks to the end of 2020 and talk through UFOs, Carl Lentz, and how to pronounce the word "microwave." Who wants to join the Galactic Federation with DeCruz?
Another week has passed us by and that means it's time for another Week in Review with DeCruz and Jordi. How many characters are you allowed when you tweet? Do you get more when you're POTUS?
Jordi and DeCruz once again tackle the Week in Review and address the state of affairs in the U.S and the world. DeCruz goes on a rant about international America haters and Jordi addresses guinea pig cuisine possibilities.
"I got a lot of problems with you people, now you're gonna hear about it!"
A very special Thanksgiving Week episode for the Big Brown Army. "Let us never speak of this again."
May we never speak of that election again. Just kidding! Jordi and DeCruz are back with another Week in Review. 30% MORE ELECTION COVERAGE THAN STORE BRANDS.
The Dynamic Mid-Week Duo is back after a brief hiatus with lots of post-election analysis. DeCruz and Ray talk about the state of U.S politics and where the two parties go from here. They also spend some time talking about whether character matters when you vote for a candidate.
DeCruz and Ray go back to the Big Brown Army roots. No notes, no preparation, and absolutely no entertainment.
Another Week in Review with Jordi and DeCruz brings you the latest from the Presidential Election campaigns and new questions about Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Also, Tony Bubulinski makes a cameo appearance in this sordid tale.
Jordi and DeCruz take a look back at the week that was as the planet hurtles toward the November 3 Elections. What happened last week? What will happen next week? What will happen?!
DeCruz and Ray are back for another mid-week episode. DeCruz rants on Twitter and their censoring of NY Post story on Wednesday. What is going on with Giuliani's hand? Also, what would you do if you were Steve Scully from C-SPAN and you made a boneheaded move like he did.
The short but great Pierre Delecto saga.
Jordi and DeCruz are back after missing an episode. Not much happened when we were gone right? Lots of interesting conversation in The Week in Review.
DeCruz and Ray do an immediate live reaction to the Vice Presidential debate between Mike Pence and Kamala Harris. Ray announces a Tweet contest.
DeCruz and Jordi do another Week in Review and discuss the latest kerfuffle in the Kerffuled States of America. Get ready for the ugliest weeks of this political season.
Ray and DeCruz talk about the food adventures of the last two weeks and their lives. Good podcast for a 45 minute run if you're into that kind of thing.
The death of a left-wing superhero plunges the nation further into crisis. Will our coastal elites respond with the gravitas required for such an occasion? Unlikely. DeCruz and Jordi consume the news from the past week so that you don't have to. Again.
Jordi and DeCruz discuss salient cultural issues as the world burns around them. They tell you what not to watch on Netflix. Also covered: a Helen Mirren sighting.
Ray and DeCruz take on more Trump related stories in the media followed by conversations about whether diversity requirements stifle creativity. Also, keep your grandma away from gender reveal parties.
DeCruz and Jordi do another Week in Review where we talk through the news of the past week. Find out how our break from Twitter went. Also, a follow up from our conversation last week about names. Question of the week: what's your favorite Disney movie?
Ray and DeCruz are back together for another mid-week episode....from 2019. Future Ray makes an appearance to let us know how 2020 will go.
DeCruz and Jordi are back to discuss the Week in Review. The RNC outshines the DNC and we discuss the loss of a legend. Also, was that the best fireworks display ever?
Just when you thought 2020 couldn't get crazier, the NBA playoffs are on hold. Kenosha becomes the country's latest center of violence as we all hurtle aimlessly toward November elections. Buckle up for a tough one, kids.
Jordi and DeCruz discuss the hits and misses of the first-ever virtual Democratic National Convention, Joe Biden's appeal to Americans, and insane Netflix marketing campaigns.
DeCruz and Ray hash it out on Russia Collusion and the USPS scandal. This one is a 2-hour doozy, folks, get your popcorn ready.
DeCruz's best friend and fellow Portland Trail Blazer fan, Jerry, joins the Big Brown Army to give a quick post-game reaction after Blazers defeat the Lakers in Game 1. Who else is in the Greg Oden Fan Club?
DeCruz and Jordi are back for another Week in Review! Linda made her Instagram debut and we are all in awe. DeCruz shows his professionalism by taking a call while on the air.
A very special episode of the Big Brown Army as the triumvirate unites. Jordi and Ray both join DeCruz to chat about Kamala Harris as VP candidate and also chat about what to do about Seattle.
The Week in Review is back after a short hiatus! Catch up with Jordi and DeCruz as they discuss the highlights and lowlights of last week in news and pop culture. Would you keep a rodent as a pet?
DeCruz and Ray are back at it for a mid-week episode. No notes! We'll do it live, damn it! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
Manisha Dass from Indian Matchmaking joins us to talk about what went on behind the scenes of the show. She talks about her relationship with Vyasar and her thoughts on dating and marriage and why she's down to dunk on Florida any time.
Ray and DeCruz hash it out over Indian Matchmaking and whether Ray could get on the show. Are Korean-Americans allowed? Are cultural exports sometimes okay or no? And could you pass Trump's cognitive exam?
Vinay woke up this week to become America's villain after seemingly flaking on Nadia on the new hit Netflix show Indian Matchmaking. He joined the Big Brown Army to share his side of the story. Also discussed: the benefits of a portable sauna.
Vyasar Ganesan, one of the stars on the new Netflix hit Indian Matchmaking, joins us on the Big Brown Army to share stories from behind the scenes. He gives us updates on what happened after the season ended and some more background on his childhood. Stay tuned till the end for a scandalous Aloo Chaatrecipe from Vyasar.
bigbrownarmy #indianmatchmaking #vyasarganesan #netflix
This Week in Review is so good it's a week early. Jordi joins DeCruz again to discuss the wide world of hatred that's out there. DeCruz has some thoughts on white people food. Will he get canceled?
DeCruz and Ray discuss the biggest tech story of the day, while fantasizing about what they would do with this much power. Another heated anti-media rant from DeCruz. What would you do if you had total control of Twitter?
Jordi joins DeCruz for another Week in Review. We spend about ten minutes talking about Linda and Hamilton the Musical. Some more thoughts on Cancel Culture and that "Letter." Should Jordi and DeCruz write their own letter?
Per Ray's request, Big Brown Army takes a break from current events to discuss his top five action movies of all time. Arnold shows up a few times. Also, Big Brown Army is at 20 episodes!
Ben Applebee, another one of DeCruz's old friends, joins the Big Brown Army to chat about American Christianity, pastoring a congregation during these difficult times, and where we go from here.
Ben is Associate Pastor at Watermark OC in Orange County. He and his wife Rylee are parents to eight children. Ben also hosts "The Applebee Way" podcast. You can follow him at @applebeezy on Instagram.
On a special July 4th episode, DeCruz and Jordi do another week in review and discuss all that's happening with our country. Will we ever run out of media stories to talk about? Who would you have in your National Garden of American Heroes?
DeCruz and Ray have their longest conversation yet which includes a heated debate on President Trump's use of the word "Pocahontas" to describe Elizabeth Warren. You really want to listen to this one.
DeCruz and Jordi are back at it again to discuss the week that has just passed us by. We talk about all the new name changes for the week including a famous musical group that has been cancelled before. Also, we have our very first letter from a listener. Some of you really need to step it up.
Razib Khan, DeCruz's online friend of 15 years, joins the Big Brown Army this week to ask him questions about Indian-American Christianity, and wokeness. Razib has written for The New York Times, India Today, National Review Online, Slate, & The Guardian, on a broad range of topics. He also hosts the Insight, a podcast on evolution and genetics and another podcast called Brown Pundits which discusses South Asian topics. You can learn more about him at his website.
George Andrews is Chief of Staff to California State Assemblyman Tom Lackey (R-Palmdale), and unfortunately for him, also related to DeCruz. George joins the Big Brown Army to talk about California politics, the state of the country, and the Republican party. Also, be sure to listen for why George was on national cable TV in the early 00s.
Note: Recorded a few weeks ago so some details are outdated.
DeCruz and Jordi once again get together to discuss the highlights and lowlights of the past week. In this household, it's always going to be the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone! Linda the Guinea Pig agrees.
Ray is back! DeCruz and his old friend discuss India-China conflicts, John Bolton's new book, and the NBA reopening continued. Also, how does anyone drink a cup of water anyway? It's not an easy thing to do.
Jimmy Carter's unfortunate uphill run.
DeCruz and Jordi go over the most interesting tweets and news articles from the previous weeks. They discuss everything from cancel culture and celebrities chiming in about what's happening in the U.S. Will DeCruz immigrate to the CHAZ? Only time will tell. Also, special appearance from Linda, Jordi's pink haired guinea pig.
David Banks, another old college friend, joins us to share stories of DeCruz being a terrible roommate and words of wisdom from his day job as a marketing professional in the Pacific Northwest. David is a blogger and an author and you can find his work at thelittleheavy.com.
Ray joins the Big Brown Army to talk about current events. There are some heavy things in the atmosphere, my friends.
Jordi Salomon joins us again on the Big Brown Army as DeCruz takes a moment to address the murder of George Floyd and the injustices African-Americans have faced for years. Where do we go from here as a nation?
Jordi Salomon, an Orange County wife and mother to two sons joins us to talk about the pandemic. We talk about unnecessary lockdowns and the political consequences of the lockdown. What we like about Trump, what we don't like. How we feel about America, etc.
Ray returns with updates on what's going on in his corner of the world. More pandemic updates and stuff from our neck of the woods.
DeCruz's old friend Joel joins us on this very special episode of Big Brown Army. Joel Simpson is a DJ, Events Director, and musician in Los Angeles and an old college friend of DeCruz. He introduces the new musical intro for Big Brown Army.
Is it still considered a Big Brown Army when there's a Indian guy AND a Korean guy? Listen to our friends banter through another week of the lockdown.
DeCruz and Ray are back at it again. Pseudonyms are out-- real names are in. Let the doxxing begin. More politics, more wrestling, more entertainment.
Pals take on what's happening in the world during the Pandemic shut down. Things don't look so good friends, but at least we can laugh together.