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Pile of Scrap’s real and raw discussions give unmatched insight into the 5th most dangerous industry in the country. Travel across the nation with John Sacco, Sierra International Machinery President, as he reveals the truth behind recycling and waste facilities in America. The environmental and economic impacts of this $500 billion-dollar industry go unnoticed by most, but the work the men and women in this industry do is vital to the save the world and our natural resources.
🍽️ Table Scraps: The Challenge - Reunion Edition In this episode of Pile of Scrap the cast of Table Scraps: The Chef's Challenge returns to the table, this time to reflect, reconnect and relive the moments that didn't make the final cut.From behind-the-scenes laughs to unexpected lessons, host John Sacco sits down with the crew to talk about what's changed since filming, what stuck with them, and what it really meant to be part of something that pushed them outside their comfort zone.
Live from the show floor at the ReMA 2025 Convention, John Sacco sits down with Tim Ridderbos to talk about the evolving media landscape in the recycling industry. From cell phone videos to full-scale advocacy projects, Tim shares how content creation is transforming the way we communicate value, policy, and sustainability. They dive into what it means to entertain, educate, and inspire action in an industry that's often misunderstood.
Join John Sacco in the latest episode of Pile of Scrap, featuring special guest Stuart Kagan. Dive into Sierra's journey of onboarding with BUDDY as Stuart shares insights on the rigorous vetting process he conducts. Discover how BUDDY connects the right companies to buy and sell recycled materials, ensuring a seamless and trustworthy marketplace for sustainable business practices.
Join John Sacco and Mr. Scrappy himself Stuart Kagan for an exclusive tour of Sierra Recycling and Demolition—described by Stuart as a Hollywood set of recycled metals facilities. In this episode, we dive into the impressive efforts to reduce our carbon footprint, including the installation of 1700 solar panels. Discover the innovative practices of keeping extra parts for customer post-sales needs and the creation of balers using steel sheets made from recycled metal. We also tackle societal misconceptions about recycled metals and the image recyclers project through their operations. Tune in for an enlightening conversation on sustainability and the future of recycling.
Join us on the latest episode of "Pile of Scrap" as host John Sacco explores the intricate dynamics of building and sustaining a family business. Discover the personal and professional challenges of working closely with loved ones, from the ground-level tasks of sorting materials to the strategic roles in purchasing and social media management. Dive into the diverse perspectives each family member brings to the table and learn how their individual contributions fuel the company's success. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the heart and soul of a family-run operation.
In this urgent mini-episode of Pile of Scrap, host John Sacco shares alarming insights from the recent BIR convention in Copenhagen. Discover the stark regulatory changes in the EU that could redefine the global recycling industry, labeling valuable recycled materials as mere 'waste'. John emphasizes the critical need to reshape our language and public perception about recycling, challenging misconceptions that threaten the industry's future. Learn how these changes could impact North America and why it's vital to act now to protect our environmental and economic health. Join us in redefining recycling and safeguarding our industry.
Join host John Sacco as he sits down with the Lincoln Brothers on the latest episode of Pile of Scrap! Discover what it's like to grow up in the recycled metals industry, leave it, and then make a triumphant return.In this engaging episode, the Lincoln Brothers share their unique journey, detailing their experiences growing up immersed in the world of recycled metals. They discuss the pivotal moments and challenges that led them to step away from the industry and the personal and professional reasons behind their departure.The conversation takes an inspiring turn as they recount their return to the industry, highlighting the significant impact they’ve made since rejoining. The Lincoln Brothers delve into their efforts to contribute to building and growing industry associations, emphasizing their commitment to nurturing the next generation of talent in the field.This episode offers insightful stories, valuable lessons, and a deep dive into the recycled metals industry, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the Lincoln Brothers' remarkable journey. Don't miss it!
In this episode of Pile of Scrap, host John Sacco welcomes Collin Kelly, the newly appointed chairman of the Recycling Manufacturers Association (ReMA). Dive into the significant rebranding efforts from ISRI to ReMA and discover the strategic reasons behind this pivotal change. Collin shares his vision for enhancing the industry's appeal to policymakers by shifting the narrative towards hot-button topics like the Green Deal, electric vehicles, and decarbonization, rather than traditional recycling terms. Collin discusses his commitment to nurturing the next generation of industry leaders, emphasizing the importance of involving more people in ReMA's committees and board meetings. Tune in to gain insight into how these initiatives not only aim to reshape the industry’s image but also ensure its sustainability and relevance in today’s rapidly evolving environmental landscape.
Join John Sacco in the latest episode of "Pile of Scrap," co-hosted by the esteemed Cozzi brothers, Frank and Albert. Together, they delve into the transformative journey of the recycled metals industry across three generations. From evolving practices at recycled metal facilities to shifts in industry dialogue and their visions for the future, this episode looks at where we've been and where we're headed in the recycled metals industry.
Tune in as host John Sacco sits down with Susie Burrage OBE, the current President of BIR, for an insightful conversation on the organization's future. Learn about the exciting release of 'Recyclist,' a hard copy magazine diving deep into the latest developments in the waste and recycled metals industry. From discussing BIR's growth to exploring Susie's vision for its future, this conversation is a must-watch for anyone passionate about sustainability and the recycling sector.
Join John Sacco as he sits down with Lisa and Stuart Kagan. From their early days working at the grassroots level of the recycled material industry to spearheading innovation, the Kagans share their journey of building BUDDY — a unique marketplace designed by recyclers, for recyclers. Dive into their inspiring story of persistence, innovation, and how they are shaping the future of recycling with BUDDY. Tune in to discover how the Kagans are turning challenges into opportunities in the world of recycling! BUDDY is an exciting new trading platform for recyclers worldwide. Buddy is the world’s first relationship-led marketplace built for scrappies, by scrappies. Metal recyclers are able to list their material in a few seconds and instantly have it sent out to some of the world’s top buyers for each commodity.
Live at ISRI 2024, top-ranked Economist and Futurist Jason Schenker joins John Sacco as they discuss the current Geopolitical state, the U.S. economy and inflation rates. They also dive into a possible “Cold War 2” scenario and what that means for the Metal Recycling Industry.
Join John Sacco, former ISRI chairman, as he interviews current ISRI chair, Brian Hennessy. John and Bryan discusses his term as ISRI chairman, and the experience Brian has had over the last two years. They discuss current, past and future of ISRI and his thoughts as the outgoing chairman of his final convention.
Join John Sacco as he discusses the importance of the recycled materials industry, addressing the common misconceptions and the negative imagery associated with the term "scrap." Emphasizing the need for rebranding and using precise language to positively change the industry's public perception. Sacco highlights the unveiling of the Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries' (ISRI) new name (happening in Las Vegas) at their convention, April 15-19th, as a step towards this goal. Making parallels between the recycled materials industry and other essential but "dirty" industries like agriculture, construction, and healthcare, arguing that these industries are indispensable despite the dirt and hard work involved.
At the Scrap Expo 2023 convention in Louisville, KY, John Sacco brings the podcast to the center stage as he talks with Jay Robinovitz (Alter Trading President & CEO), Danny Rifkin (MetalX President & CEO), George Adams (SA Recycling CEO), and Kevin Gershowitz (Gershow Recycling Vice President). These men emphasize the spirit of business owners in the industry to flourish amidst industry consolidations and how they cultivate talent in large operations. They further touch on growth strategies, the essence of family-run ventures, the potential of AI and robotics, and environmental considerations in the realm of metals recycling. With a blend of stories and insights, highlighting the dynamic nature of the industry, you won’t want to miss this episode!
Host John Sacco and ISRI Chairman Brian Henesey discuss the challenges, opportunities, and goals of ISRI and the recycling industry as a whole. Highlighting the importance of recycled materials, the need for advocacy, and the importance of increased member engagement for the betterment of the industry, Brian Henesey’s goal is to promote the value of recycling to regulators, policymakers, and the public.
In this eye-opening episode, discover how a simple shift in language can revolutionize perceptions. Join host John Sacco as he engages with communication expert Michael Maslansky, exploring the rebranding of the recycled materials industry. From redefining raw materials to spotlighting its vital role in iconic products, this conversation emphasizes both education and collaboration. Michael's insights guide listeners on embracing recycled materials' value, changing the narrative, and encouraging responsible disposal. With actionable advice, this episode ignites a movement to reshape public understanding and appreciation for the sustainable and essential world of recycled materials.
Host John Sacco sits down with the talented young minds of the ISRI 2023 JASON Learning Project. The winners – Barbie Lin, Ashvin Saini, Yaesung Kim, and Bailey Maltese – delve into their creative processes, motivations, and aspirations behind their designs. Although they’re already making huge strides in the world of recycling, we get to be all ears for what the next generation plans for their futures!
We welcome Bill Sulak, the new president of Ferrous Processing and Trading (FPT), onto the podcast! John and Bill discuss Bill’s transition into the position and the compatibility between FPT and Cleveland Cliffs, highlighting the value placed on FPT's leadership and industry expertise. Sharing his leadership style and expressing his dedication to the industry, Bill outlines his commitment to developing and implementing a vision that maintains FTP’s leadership role and can strategically expand the company’s presence.
Bruce Blue, ISRI Lifetime Achievement Award Winner and President of Freedom Metals, Inc., joins the podcast at the 2023 ISRI National Convention to discuss the changes he’s witnessed in the recycling industry over the years and the importance of spreading awareness about the industry’s societal impact. By delving into a few personal experiences of his, he highlights how each experience has further reinforced his gratitude for life and his dedication to the betterment of ISRI.
Host John Sacco sits down with Michael and Lindy Levell of Lakeside Auto Recyclers at the 2023 National ISRI Convention, where they share their passion for educating others about the importance of the recycling industry. Together, they delve into the importance of reshaping the perception of metals recycling, particularly among younger generations, and fostering enthusiasm for it. The Levells take immense pride in their involvement in an industry that is wholeheartedly dedicated to sustainability, emphasizing the collective effort, hard work, and positive impact of individuals who champion the recycling message.
At the National 2023 ISRI Convention in Nashville, TN, John Sacco invites George Adams’ sons, Kurtis, Kalvin, and Tyler on the podcast to delve into their roles as leaders of SA Recycling’s many yards and shed light on their commitment to sustainability and innovation within the industry. Emphasizing the importance of finding a balance between work and family while navigating the challenges of running a thriving business, they share their vision for the future, including their plans to expand SA’s operations.
At the 2023 ISRI National Convention in Nashville, Tennessee, John Sacco sits with Tom Bird, President of the Bureau of International Recycling (BIR), to shed light on the obstacles the recycling industry is facing. While emphasizing the importance of navigating conflicts and trade regulations, Tom discusses the needed support for Ukrainian BIR members affected by the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war and highlights the importance of promoting recycling to achieve sustainability and address environmental concerns.
With a 125-year history, Alter Trading Corporation recently celebrated their anniversary in New Orleans, Louisiana. As fourth generation to head Alter Trading, Jeff, Rob and Rich Goldstein have managed to maintain a culture reflecting the traits of a small family business despite their growing success as a major corporation. During the celebration, the Goldstein brothers reflected on their upbringing, emphasizing how the company has evolved in maintaining core values that are rooted in honesty, integrity, respect and, most of all, family.
Jennifer Betts, now metal enthusiast, graduated from Indiana University as a major in finance. After stumbling upon the metals recycling industry at a job fair, the rest is history! Now, as a voice of metal recyclers everywhere, Jennifer has taken matters into her own hands to give the industry the recognition it deserves by sharing her experiences and stories on platforms like TikTok, hoping to excite and engage the younger generation about recycling in addition to creating a more diverse workforce within the industry.
Are you still using words like “scrap,” “junk,” or “waste” in your messaging? C’mon, get with the times… It’s 2023! For the first episode of the new year, John Sacco sits down to give us some insight into how the recycling industry touches our daily lives. Diving deep into the truths of specific recyclable metals and how they’re truly the first step into the manufacturing process, John advises we change our narrative when teaching regulators, policymakers and even children about the industry. After all, it’s not about what we say. It’s about what they hear.
The recycling industry has always had struggles with finding manual labor workers. But nowadays, as we’re living in the aftermath of the COVID pandemic, finding those willing to work outside their homes has hit an all-time low. Lizette Patterson, Founder and CEO of Cazador Consulting Group in Bakersfield, CA, joins the podcast with John Sacco to discuss some of the big questions circling the workforce. She tells us that although finding suitable candidates to employ is complex, the struggle also relies on being a good employer. More specific to recycling, Lizette says the pursuit of creating a more attractive image might help the industry in finding more success in the hiring process.
At the ScrapExpo event in Louisville, Kentucky, John Sacco is joined by President and CEO of Alter Trading Jay Robinovitz to discuss all the nuts and bolts of running a facility. The two talk topics across the board such as managing your business’s expenses, investing in spare parts, and preparing for environmental concerns later down the road. Jay and John are then joined by United Metals owner Brett Ekart to tell us how he’s stepped up to help change the narrative of this industry and the kind of motivation it takes to be successful.
Having over 30 years working with Recycling Today Media Group, Executive President Jim Keefe gives us sharp insight into what it’s like working as a content publisher for the recycling industry. At the ISRI Summer Meetings in D.C, John and Jim talk about the enormous evolution in technology that this generation has seen since the original forms of recycling back in the biblical era. Jim also mentions how many recyclers are primarily focused on their own industries rather than the societal obligation they have to the environment, and how that could be detrimental to changing the narrative on how industrial recycling shouldn’t be lumped under the same category as waste.
Ready to step up and lead the Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries (ISRI), new ISRI Chairman Brian Henesey is prepared to get the ball rolling to change this industry. Brian and John Sacco sit down at the ISRI Summer Meetings in D.C. to discuss what it’s going to take to educate our youth and legislators about recycling, enlist community reinforcement, and create an innovative approach to acquire new ISRI members and better serve current ones. Overall, raising the bar and setting new goals for the trade association.
Brothers Joel and Craig Litman of Texas Recycling in Dallas, Texas, join John Sacco to chat about the supply of material made from virgin pulp and recycled fiber and the importance of companies following through with their word on creating more recyclable packaging. Over the years, the brothers have adapted to modern-day business operations but say they keep their late father Stan's "old school business" principles alive. With family businesses being the backbone of the recycling industry, Joel invites his daughter, Hillary, to join the conversation and discuss how they carry on the Texas Recycling legacy.
Mikey and Elliott Foon of Admiral Metals join the podcast with their father, Steven, to talk over some of the hottest topics in the industry right now. As recycling slowly makes its way out from the top-numbered deadliest of industries, the Foon brothers agree that we have nothing to thank other than initiating safety first daily. The Foons also discuss their duties at their yard, the importance of being recycling warriors, and spreading the message of what this industry is all about.
The Adams brothers of SA Recycling joined the podcast to talk about what makes their company tick. With a whopping 125 yards across the nation, it’s no surprise these guys know their way around the metal recycling business. As CEO of SA, George Adams is one of the most known faces in the recycling industry today, and his love for expansion has been a significant factor in what keeps the company growing. As Director, Terry Adams, on the other hand, handles much of the legal and environmental responsibilities that keep SA safe and prosperous. While these specific duties help SA flourish, the brothers agree that leadership, positive contribution, and staying proactive are what can overall keep a company in business.
Much has transpired since the last time we sat down with our favorite economist, Jason Schenker. Jason gives us an update on how the world affairs, such as the Russia/Ukraine war and the COVID-19 shut down in China, specifically affect the recycling and metal industries. With price shift and supply as a primary concern, in addition to inflation hitting labor, operational, and equipment costs, Jason tells us what he sees coming in months to come. However, in the grand scheme of things, according to the Federal Reserve Board, the US economy is still predicted to grow strong with the service consumption, fixed investments, and the employment-population ratio at incredibly high rates.
At ISRI’s 2022 National Convention, John sits down with Von Fahrenbruch, owner of F&F Iron & Metals in Norton, Kansas. Having known each other for over 20 years through trade shows, John admits Von is the prime example of how to treat people and how to operate a facility. With Kansas as a major producer of agriculture and oil, Von tells us that processing metals from feedlots and farms and the oil and gas industries have considerably impacted his company’s growth. However, although that has influenced business, Von says that desire and hard work are the main factors in making a company great.
Stan Silva II and his son Stan Silva III (Little Bud) return to the podcast for a second time at the ISRI 2022 National Convention to talk to us about operations at the A&S Metals facility. Although he says it’s not as fun as driving a truck, Little Bud has acquired more presence in the yard and taken over some day-to-day duties. With that said, Stan says he’s almost ready to hand over the family business officially. The two discuss how growing up in the industry, taking care of equipment, and keeping good relationships with employees have significantly impacted their growth as a company.
As their father slowly begins to let his sons take over the company, David and Michael Krentzman say they're more than ready to step up to the plate and follow the six generations of Krentzmans before them. The brothers join the podcast to discuss what it's like operating in rural Pennsylvania, the separation of duties they each have, and how they're continuously working to build core strength for their company to "get better every day."
Although growing up in the industry and becoming a multi-generational yard owner is impressive, starting as a first-generation recycling facility deserves a whole new level of appreciation. Brothers John and Nicholas Cohen, owners of NJC Scrap Metal Recycling in Hempstead and Bay Shore, NY, join Pile of Scrap at the 2022 ISRI National Convention to discuss where they see themselves in five years, what it’s been like to work with family, and how important it is to hold the value in doing “old school” business.
To recognize the importance that the next generation has on the state of our environment in the years to come, ISRI partners with Jason Learning and invites K-12 students across the nation to participate in The JASON Project to create a video and poster promoting the recycling industry. This year at the 2022 ISRI National Convention, Josephine Tarazzi, Mark Monteleone, Ani Nishanian, and Namira Meghla, the winners of The JASON Project, join Pile of Scrap to discuss the creation of their projects and what their futures look like in the years to come.
During a busy Day 3 of the 2022 ISRI National Convention, President of the Bureau of International Recycling (BIR) Tom Bird sits down with John Sacco to share insight on recycling from a global perspective. Tom shares how policymakers in the UK have been working against recyclers much like they have in the US, how the Russia/Ukraine conflict has created division and disrupted material trading, and how the BIR is continuing to make sure needs are met for members despite these challenging times we’re experiencing in the industry.
The recycling industry fights many battles day-in and day-out, but ISRI Chairman Gary Champlin says that the COVID-19 pandemic was more of a war than a battle for recyclers everywhere. Having been elected at the peak of shutdown and experiencing two years of sole virtual communication, Gary couldn’t be more excited for what’s to come at the in-person 2022 ISRI National Convention. Champlin joins the podcast to tell us all about his role in managing the chaos at the start of the pandemic and how ISRI has had major impact in representing the passionate people in this industry.
Back and better than ever, the 2022 National ISRI Convention is, once again, a face-to-face event in Las Vegas, Nevada! As we all prepare for the biggest show in the recycling industry, ISRI President Robin Wiener discusses the victories ISRI has had over the past two years since the COVID-19 pandemic began and doubles down on what needs to change going forward. Although the organization is doing all it can to represent “responsible recycling,” initiate a change in verbiage to create a better narrative and provide resources to members to create a more sustainable and resilient planet, Robin says that ISRI can’t do it alone without the help of membership.
With how fast the economy changes, we’ve invited Jason Schenker, one of the most accurate financial forecasters and futurists in the world, back again for his third time on the podcast. Being so close-knit with the recycling industry, Jason gives us the full rundown on the labor market, what’s going on in the metal commodity sector, and issues such as shortages in manufacturing equipment. Jason also discusses some major talking points, such as the global debt and the Russian-Ukraine crisis and how these issues can slow growth for recyclers in 2022.
Looking back at 2021, John Sacco does a solo podcast to address today's most significant issues facing the recycling industry. With the government as our biggest competitor trying to label our commodities as waste and recyclers not making enough noise about it, we've begun to lose our voice. As John says, 2022 is the year we start standing up and advocating more for this industry, doing more for our communities, and educating the public on how the recycling industry operates. New year, new us.
The word “sustainability” has been a buzzword in the recycling industry lately. With many different interpretations of what the term means, Cheryl Coleman, ISRI’s Vice President of Sustainability, joins John Sacco on the podcast to clarify some confusion. The two discuss the importance of recycling profitably, how the packaging industry is a critical factor in furthering that push, and how ISRI has created a plan with brands to implement some protocols to execute it. As we sit down with Cheryl, we get some overall insight into what’s in store for this industry to keep sustainability intact.
John Sacco goes for a walk with a good friend and ISRI’s 2021 Lifetime Achievement Award winner David Borsuk. These two discuss topics across the board, including the negative connotation of the word “scrap,” environmental justice, the responsibility this industry has to our communities, and how legislators don’t understand a recycler’s role in the supply chain. Even while retired, David’s continued involvement in ISRI is due to how vital this industry is to him and the environment as a whole.
As the Co-Chair of ISRI’s Membership Committee and the Chair of the Investment Subcommittee, it’s clear that Neil Byce has a passion for this trade association. John and Neil meet up for a walk-and-talk episode in Washington, DC, to discuss how ISRI has supported their companies to grow into their success by providing education, networking, and advocacy. The two also touch on how recyclers' motivation and endless opportunities benefit from being a for-profit industry.
John is boots-on-the-ground in Washington, DC for ISRI’s Summer Board and Committee Meetings! John meets up with Andrew Lincoln, Vice President of Lincoln Recycling and member of ISRI’s Executive Committee, for a walk-and-talk episode. They discuss how ISRI is proactive in growing this industry and the importance of maintaining relationships with lobbyists and government officials, educating and promoting the recycling industry, and keeping the term “environmental justice” at the forefront of our minds.
As we commemorate Memorial Day, we acknowledge the brutal reality that each American service member faces. Jason Geis, Executive Director and Co-Founder of the Portrait of a Warrior Gallery - Kern County and a veteran himself, gives John Sacco a heart-wrenching and surreal tour of the gallery to celebrate the twenty-seven men from Kern County who sacrificed their lives in combat post 9/11. By working directly with the men's Gold Star Families, the gallery keeps their memories alive through art and education. It holds their motto true when they say, “Always Remembered, Never Forgotten.”
Experts in recovering resources through recycling since 1994, Balcones Resources leads the charge for a cleaner recycling stream in Austin, Dallas, and Little Rock, Texas. CEO Kerry Getter and Vice President of Strategy, Richie Getter, discuss the multitude of changes needed to create a greener environment, including educating the public, increasing curbside programs, and adequately recycling small-format packaging. As Richie says, there’s a long way to go in North America, but getting a grasp on these significant issues is a tremendous start.
Recycling doesn’t stop at the recycling bin. As recyclers, we know that, but do consumers? After touring Sierra Recycling & Demolition, former NFL quarterback and current ESPN Analyst Mark Sanchez got valuable insight into the recycling industry, the common misconceptions, and steps consumers must take to recycle correctly. Sanchez then discusses the life-altering moments crucial to gaining the confidence he needed to become the sports icon he is today.
As someone who’s spent his entire youth and most of his adult life as an avid surfer, President of Atlantic Packaging Wes Carter has seen the damages that plastic pollution has had on our oceans firsthand. When approached about what the packaging industry is doing about it, a lightbulb finally went off. Since then, Wes is leading the charge in advocating for better ways to clean up landfills and save our oceans’ wildlife, all of which includes getting consumers and packaging manufacturers to join the conversation, get the Elon Musks and the Bill Gates of the world to believe in this initiative, and altogether address the misconceptions of plastic recycling
The service technicians over at Sierra bring a new light to the term, “Young Guns” as they sit with John Sacco to talk all about how this industry has transformed them from “boys to men” seeing as their maturity levels have grown over the years. Ricardo Diaz, Angel Mariscal, and Arturo Madrigal (Jr.) together discuss the common mistakes all the way to the impressive attributes they see at their customers’ yards, the importance of having smart, young and talented individuals in the industry, and their experiences on the job.
Coming as a sigh of relief to many, 2020 is finally over, and it’s time to start gearing up for the year ahead. Looking back on all the experiences we’ve had and memories we’ve made on Pile of Scrap, we can say that we’ve learned a few things that we can carry with us into 2021. To kickstart new beginnings, John goes over the importance of this industry, getting our voices heard and, overall, how critical it is to stay positive moving forward through the year.
John Sacco joins his brother, Philip Sacco, and nephew, Philip Sacco II, in Wyoming for a special Pile of Scrap episode focusing on the importance of family business and what it’s like growing up at Sierra, all while reminiscing on a few crazy stories.
Working in the scrap industry is a little different than your average day job, and A&S Metals owners Stanley Silva, II (Buddy) and Stanley Silva, III (Buddy Jr.) can attest to that. Taking after generations before them, these guys are the embodiment of what hard work looks like. To discuss the history of the company and the essential aspects of recycling, John Sacco and his nephew, Philip Sacco, travel to Castroville, CA, to catch up with old friends over at A&S.
Unlike your typical Pile of Scrap episode, John Sacco decides to shake things up a bit by putting recycling on hold for a moment and discussing a topic everyone can resonate with: music. While enjoying a couple of steaks and sitting down with singer/songwriter Matthew Shafer, better known as Country music star Uncle Kracker, these guys waste no time in talking about how different music artists and music genres have played such a critical role in Matthew’s career all while including legendary stories involving Hank Jr. and ACDC.
Walking through Sierra’s scrapyard, John Sacco realizes he has a few things he needs to get off his chest. Although touching on topics all across the board, he doubles down how exactly government legislators are silencing those in the recycling industry when it comes to how recycled commodities should be labeled. John says enough is enough! It’s time to speak up and get our message out there: Scrap is not waste.
Surprise! John Sacco packs his bags and heads to Sterling Heights, Michigan to pay his good friend, Mikey Foon, an unexpected visit. As the fourth-generation owner of Admiral Metals, things are a bit different for Mikey than when his great-grandfather owned the place during the horse-and-buggy days. Through mastering social media, putting plans in place for a second location, and learning to cope with the toll COVID-19 has taken, Mikey still expresses his excitement for this business every day.
Initially establishing itself as a small welding and repair shop in 1972, JWR has evolved into a national waste and recycling equipment company offering additional services over the years, such as sandblasting, painting, truck and hoist repair, and container repair. Traveling to Johnson Creek, Wisconsin, John Sacco joins Dave Wolf, Owner of JWR, to talk about the lack of recycling in rural America, how COVID-19 has affected business, and present safety concerns.
Back in Moscow, Idaho, John visits the Beauchamp’s to hear how a Pile of Scrap episode influenced their company, Bulrushed Books. For a business that began its start in repairing old, abused books, Mark and Kristen Beauchamp have since made quite the impact within the recycling industry… All thanks to the insight of Pile of Scrap guest Leonard Zeid, President of Paper Stock Industries. Figuring that books are incredibly tricky to recycle due to their binding, Mark and Kristen developed the idea to debind their books to help maintain a clean recycling stream, which ultimately assisted their company’s growing success.
John Sacco is thrilled to finally log off of Zoom, let loose, and give you the full Pile of Scrap experience after the COVID-19 nationwide shutdown. John travels to Moscow, Idaho, to sit down face-to-face with Jeremy Spencer, West Coast Representative of Atlantic Packaging, to cover everything from how packaging can increase sustainability to how consumers can participate in recycling without negatively affecting the quality and content of their products.
Sierra founder, Ben Sacco, had a vision for his company: to improve the recycling process with better equipment and share that throughout the World. With John and Philip Sacco at the helm, they have been able to fulfill this vision. However, this success wasn’t handed over on a silver platter. Between leading an organized and clean recycling facility to Ben’s philosophy to always “telling the customer the truth,” there’s no surprise that Sierra is a recognized leader in the recycling industry. John and Philip sit down to tell us all about Sierra’s roots and the man behind the legacy.
After months of being cooped up in our homes day-in and day-out due to the stay-at-home orders swept across the nation, it’s easy to admit that we’ve all been itching to get our lives back to normal as quickly as possible. During this time, John Sacco gives us his take on how the COVID-19 crisis has particularly affected creativity and human interaction in the workplace as well as making a vast impact on the recycling industry in terms of rising contamination levels and declining recycling rates. Considering this, John says it’s time to open up and get this country working again.
During the novel Coronavirus pandemic, face masks and hand sanitizers have been a common procedure at essential businesses everywhere. However, over at Sierra, safety has been taken a step further when ensuring their employees are taking the necessary precautions. Felipe Guerra, Director of Safety at Sierra, joins Pile of Scrap once again to discuss the major changes they’ve made to ‘flatten the curve.’ Between daily morning temperature checks, air sanitizers in every office, and even changing all the door handles, it’s clear that Sierra’s safety team is unsurpassed.
As the next generation of recyclers are getting geared up to take over the reins of the industry, they can’t help but give credit to the generations before them that have paved the way for their success. Chad Olgin from Olgin Efune Recycling, Sean Daoud from PNW Recycling, and Jacqueline Lotzkar from Pacific Metals Recycling meet with John Sacco to talk about the improvements they see for ISRI, their aspirations in becoming ISRI’s next batch of officers, and the long-lasting friendships they’re making along the way.
With classes transitioning to online, trips being cancelled, and working from home becoming the new norm, it’s safe to say that the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted our lives in the most unexpected way. John Sacco’s daughter, Giovanna, joins Pile of Scrap to discuss how her life was changed once she first heard of the European travel ban while in the U.K. for a semester abroad. Between having been a possible victim of the virus to being in complete isolation for 14 days, Giovanna gives you a firsthand look of her COVID-19 experience.
Ep. 25: Safely or Not at All with Sierra's Felipe Guerra by Sierra International Machinery
In addition to being CEO of BENLEE, the #1 roll off trailer manufacturer in North America, some may also consider Greg Brown a celebrity for his weekly reports in economics, scrap metal, and recycling. Greg sits down with John Sacco to tell us his perspective on the affects the novel Coronavirus has had on China, the struggle in finding a workforce, and even the time his life was saved by a gun jam during a robbery. This episode was recorded on February 29, 2020
After making the tough decision to cancel ISRI’s annual convention due to COVID-19, ISRI President Robin Wiener and Chairman Brian Shine join John Sacco to discuss what members need to know going forward in this crisis. Taking into account how essential recycling is for infrastructure and critical manufacturing, these two leaders explain how diligently they’ve worked in pressuring the federal government to keep our industry in motion.
As we get more and more emerged into the Coronavirus pandemic, there are many questions being asked within the scrap industry. John Sacco invites medical professional Dr. Vip Dev and the biggest names in scrap such as Brett Ekart from United Metals Recycling, Sean Daoud from PNW Metal Recycling, Matt Kripke from Kripke Enterprises, Andrew Lincoln from Lincoln Recycling, and Nathan Frankel from Advanced Steel Recovery to give us the inside scoop on the availability of virus testing and how the scrap industry remains in operation through the slowing of production and business closures.
Basic necessities have been wiped from the shelves since the outbreak of the Coronavirus has stirred up panic in our communities. Toilet paper, water, and even certain meats – gone. John Sacco sits down with us to discuss the absurdity the World has been going through the past few days and how improving communication between production companies and consumers can positively affect these circumstances.
With the ISRI convention being officially cancelled and having a daughter overseas spending the semester abroad after an announcement of a European travel ban, John Sacco is starting to feel the panic of the novel Coronavirus. Having uncertainty about what this virus means for our economy and others in the industry, John advises us to remain calm.
Update: Due to the ongoing developments of the novel Coronavirus ISRI, including the WHO pandemic declaration and the many state-of-emergency declarations around the country, ISRI cannot go forward with ISRI2020 this April. However, this podcast episode still highlights the benefits of attending an ISRI National Convention. We hope to see you at ISRI2021 in San Diego!
If there’s one thing the Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries (ISRI) is known for, it’s their conventions. Chuck Carr, mastermind behind the industry’s biggest event of the year, talks with John Sacco about the significant benefits ISRI’s conventions can bring to your business. Although networking is number one on that list, the keynote speakers and the educational programs make it a guarantee that this event won’t disappoint.
Are you sick and tired of the countless regulations being put on your yard that are implemented by elected officials who know nothing about the industry? John Sacco is, which is why he’s decided to tell us what we need to do to get our voices heard so that we can properly inform the public and control the message about what it is we do.
Sierra’s Recycle Everything Balers (REBs) are known for getting the job done both quickly and efficiently. However, achieving such high standards wouldn’t be possible without the help of a combined 60 years of experience in the business. John Sacco packs up and heads to Jesup, Georgia, home to Sierra’s manufacturing plant, to meet with General Manager Emory Olds and Head Technician of Sierra’s Two-Ram Balers Randy Hanson. Here, these guys talk specifics on the design and engineering of the World’s leading line of two-ram balers.
Pile of Scrap host and former Chairman of the Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries (ISRI) John Sacco travels to Washington, D.C. to sit down with old colleague and ISRI President Robin Wiener to gain some insight into the industry and inform listeners of the positive influences that ISRI has had across the board. ISRI has made monumental impacts for its members and the industry as a whole in terms of saving the environment and bettering the economy which, according to Robin, is sure to continue in the many years to come
Jason Schenker is back! John Sacco invites one of the most accurate financial forecasters and futurists in the world to kick back, relax, and enjoy some homemade pizza and steak at his home in Bakersfield, California. But first, Jason sits down to answer a few of the many questions that have been asked about the state of our economy including the important effects the Wuhan Coronavirus has on scrap and global markets, how the science of economics directly impacts the 2020 Presidential election, and even the repercussions of “wish recycling.”
As a home away from home, Indiana has held a special place in host John Sacco’s heart thanks to the Lewis family. Holding a 30-year-long friendship with Mike Lewis, President of Lewis Salvage Co., the two friends were able to talk about the growth of Lewis Salvage, what the future holds for Mike’s son, Cary, leading the company into the next generation, and the importance of maintaining close friendships in the industry.
The recycling industry is notorious for family-owned businesses and United Metals Recycling is no different. Starting from the time Brett Ekart was watching cartoons in his grandpa’s office all the way to graduating with his MBA, he always knew scrap was in his blood. As the third generation Ekart to own United Metals, based in Boise, Idaho, Brett joins Pile of Scrap to talk about the incredible journey he’s had in becoming CEO and how the generations before him have helped pave the way to the successful business it is today.
As the year comes to a close, John Sacco sits down for Pile of Scrap’s final episode of 2019 to talk the importance of spreading the word on what is and what isn’t recyclable. Whether you’re a legislator on Capitol Hill, a big-brand retailer like Amazon, or just grabbing groceries at your local market, John says it’s time to start changing the dynamic on the education of the recycling industry and take action. With 2020 around the corner, there seems to be no better time than now.
Ever wonder what to do with that empty paper cup after finishing your morning coffee? Pile of Scrap host John Sacco travels to St. Louis, Missouri to ask paper recycling master, Leonard Zeid, just that. As Executive Vice President of Midland Davis Corp. and President of Paper Stock Industries (PSI), a national chapter of ISRI, there’s no doubt he knows the business. Everything from determining what to put in your blue bin, the increase in corporate environmental sustainability, and the unnecessary “go paperless” phenomenon, Zeid answers it all.
Servicing throughout the Oregon and Washington regions since 2013, PNW Metal Recycling (PNW) is a conjoined family-owned business with years of experience in the industry. Whilst maintaining their reputation for the utmost level integrity, this company works every day to stay efficient in their region and becoming the lowest cost producer of the commodities they produce. In this episode, John Sacco travels to Portland, Oregon to speak with owners Fouad Daoud, his son Sean Daoud, and Hank Doane about PNW’s story, the burden of operating a facility in an environmentally conscious state such as Oregon, and their involvement with ISRI.
Toledo, Ohio-based Kripke Enterprises Inc. (KEI) has become one of the most notable non-ferrous scrap brokerage firms to serve North America. Having been known as the “go-to guy for aluminum,” President of KEI Matt Kripke joins Pile of Scrap host John Sacco to explain the rapid growth of the aluminum industry that has been overall prominent in autos and electric vehicles with examples as pronounced as Tesla and the Ford F-150. Announcing his appreciation, Kripke describes how economically viable and environmentally responsible ISRI has been in educating for the prevention of that aluminum going into landfills in the future.
When it comes to getting down to the hard questions of understanding the impacts of the economy and the future it holds, Jason Schenker breaks it down for us. John Sacco invites Mr. Schenker, President of Prestige Economics and one of the most accurate financial forecasters and futurists in the world, on the podcast to discuss how the recycling industry and the U.S. economy has been impacted by tariffs as well as the net effect of the economy in terms of taxes on both the state and national levels.
With SA Recycling being one of the largest and most successful privately-owned scrap recycling companies in the United States, SA President and CEO George Adams knows the ins and outs of what makes this industry tick. In Part 2 of “Scrap Legends: SA Recycling” George sits down with John Sacco to discuss the difficulties in finding laborers, the effects the trade wars with China have had on the scrap business, and what it was like being an officer for ISRI.
As one of the largest and most successful privately-owned scrap recycling companies in the United States, it has taken years of patience, perseverance, and hard work for SA Recycling to officially claim its name to fame. George Adams, SA President and CEO, sits down with John Sacco to talk further about his time in law school, the attempt to accommodate California’s strict regulation laws, and the details behind SA’s past bankruptcy that turned out to benefit the company in the long run.
Throughout generations of his family being involved in the industry, current ISRI Chairman Brian Shine, knew scrap was in his blood from the very beginning. From incorporating the values that he had learned from his family business in addition to the experience he’d acquired through his involvement in the industry, he leads the Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries (ISRI) to its continued success. Brian joins John Sacco to discuss the strategy behind the magic that is ISRI and how important the organization has been for the entire scrap recycling community as a whole.
From following closely in his father’s footsteps, Matthew Goldman, CEO of Pasco Iron and Metal based in Land O’ Lakes, Florida, is unsurpassed when it comes to knowing the do’s and don’ts of the scrap business. By juggling all the responsibilities of building his company from the ground up, he is a true one man show. John Sacco joins Matthew and his father, Mark Goldman, in discussing Matthew taking the reins from his father and how exactly that plays into the success of his company and Florida’s growing scrap industry.
From fashion to recycling, Edward Kangeter, CEO of CASS, Inc. based in Oakland, CA dives into the "ugliness" of the scrap industry and swaps memorable stories with John. As recyclers, they explain how one can clean up their operations, and help the world understand the importance of a scrap yard. Although, Ed forbids to use the word "scrap" he also describes his aluminum scrap operation. Processing, melting, and selling old recycled aluminum to clients who create everything from ice cream scoops, to skateboard trucks.
How do we resolve the plastic pollution? Jason Young, CEO of the Allan Company based in Southern California, discusses a possible solution with John Sacco. However, the solution involves more than just putting “recyclables” in the blue bin. It requires packaging manufactures to think past the initial shelf life or their products. These issues lead to what we call the Blue Bin Myth: what can and cannot be recycled.
Sierra Recycling & Demolition is your traditional scrap processor: dealing in scrap metal, cardboard, and field service work for agriculture and oil. Sierra R&D General Manager, Ryan Mallard, and Operations Manager, Daniel Zamora, talk to John Sacco about the company’s safety goals, government regulations, and spending money to make money.