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Today’s guest on Because of Horses is Bob Cacchione — a living legend in the horse world — and one to whom so many owe immense gratitude for founding the Intercollegiate Horse Shows Association (IHSA)!

Though the IHSA has helped countless young equestrians explore their competitive riding talents and dreams, their origins were pretty humble. Bob was an 18-year-old sophomore at Fairleigh Dickinson University in Teaneck, New Jersey when his parents told him they would no longer pay for his riding. Rather than have that be the end of it, Bob negotiated free use of horses at a local stable in exchange for giving riding lessons, where he then gathered what soon became a competitive team. Next, when he held a show using donated horses, nearby colleges caught wind of the event and what began as a small group of riders soon grew exponentially over the ensuing years. Now, it’s a huge network, including almost 400 colleges across the U.S. and over 8,300 riders in hunt seat equitation, western horsemanship, and reining.

Beyond all this though, the organization is about so much more! In a world where show-winners are often those who can afford the finest horses, the IHSA truly levels the playing field. Countless young riders and adult equestrians have Bob to thank for that! In this episode, Bob shares stories of alumni who have gone on to do incredible things in the horse world, gives his take on how he has seen the evolution of youth competition, his predictions on the future of riding, some incredibly touching (and funny!) stories from those who have been involved in the IHSA, and what makes IHSA so remarkable!

Topics of Discussion:

[:24] About today’s episode with Bob Cacchione.

[1:49] Bob shares why what they do at IHSA is so important for the horse community. He also describes how the events themselves are set up and how they level the playing field.

[4:52] Bob highlights what’s especially remarkable about IHSA and tells the stories of alumni who have gone on to do incredible things in the horse world!

[8:52] Why Bob believes many of those who ride with IHSA go on to remarkable careers in the horse world beyond competing.

[12:50] When Bob’s parents stopped paying for his riding lessons at 18, what motivated him to create his own path?

[15:22] Elise and Bob discuss the incredibly unique community IHSA is, as well as its broad impact and appeal.

[18:34] Bob gives his thoughts on the horse world's evolution as well as his predictions on the future of riding.

[20:35] What Bob would like the parents and young riders who listen to Because of Horses to know about IHSA.

[22:16] Bob speaks about his retirement from IHSA.

[24:05] What does Bob want his legacy to be?

[25:45] In a life full of remarkable experiences, what stands out to Bob?

[28:08] Has Bob had any “fan” moments when he has met somebody famous in the horse world?

[29:31] If Bob could speak to ‘young Bob,’ what would he tell himself at 17 years of age?

[31:35] Bob shares some funny and touching stories of meeting people who were involved in IHSA.

[38:13] Bob shares some final words on IHSA.

[41:45] Elise shares an important announcement about the Because of Horses podcast.

Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Intercollegiate Horse Shows Association (IHSA)

USEF

USEF Convention

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

A Parent's Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

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Following one’s passion isn’t always about making our own life better — sometimes, we get a very unique opportunity to fully harness the skills, talent, experience, connections, and interests we possess in the service of someone we love. This is precisely what happened in Rupert Isaacson’s case when his young son, Rowan, was diagnosed with autism. And in Rupert’s very real quest to help his little boy, he discovered a therapeutic approach that could help others who are on the same journey. To share this desperately needed support as broadly as possible, Rupert wrote a book, created a film, and established a foundation. He’s even taken his message personally to the world to anyone who would listen through clinics, conferences, personal appearances, partnering with neurologists and therapists around the world, and doing everything in his power to shift our thinking about autism and how to support autists in a more nurturing and effective way.

In this week's Season 3 premiere episode — that also marks Rupert Isaacson’s return to the podcast — he shares about his incredible journey with his son, Rowan. He provides insight into how autists experience autism, how Rowan’s journey is helping thousands of people (autistic or not) through the Horse Boy Foundation and Kids Must Move, their journey through Mongolia and why they chose to film absolutely everything on their trip — even the moments that seemed far too raw for the camera, and some of the powerful moments that really stand out to him when he looks back on his family’s journey.

Topics of Discussion:

[:24] About today’s episode.

[1:51] Rupert speaks about the early days of his son, Rowan’s, autism diagnosis and the beginning of their journey to help him cope through the magic of horses.

[5:34] Rupert provides his insight into how autists experience autism.

[11:43] Rupert speaks about the incredible transformation he noticed in his son after the San Bushmen healers prayed over him during their ceremonies in Mongolia.

[16:55] How Rowan’s journey is helping thousands of people (autistic or not) through the Horse Boy Foundation and Kids Must Move.

[18:33] What is shamanism? And how can it help aid healthy brain function and be especially beneficial to those with autism?

[21:40] Rupert reflects on his journey with Rowan and speaks more about the characteristics of shamanism and the major differences between it and western medicine.

[24:25] Rupert speaks about their journey through Mongolia and why they chose to film everything on their trip.

[26:34] Were there ever any moments that were too raw for the camera?

[29:29] When Rupert looks back on his family’s journey, what stands out for him?

[32:18] When does that healthy reliance on proven methods in Western medicine become an impediment to utilizing new methods that have incredibly positive outcomes?

[35:02] Rupert’s book, The Horse Boy, was received with stellar reviews — most notably perhaps was the review from the Autism Society of America’s former President and CEO, Lee Grossman. Does it ever strike Rupert the degree to which his journey is helping to improve others’ lives?

[36:54] Rupert offers some guidance to those on a similar path to his own.

[38:42] What’s next for Rupert and Rowan?

[45:42] Where to find out more about the work Rupert is doing.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Rupert Isaacson

Because of Horses Ep. 7: “The Horse Boy and Rupert Isaacson”

Horse Boy Foundation

The Horse Boy: A Father's Quest to Heal His Son, by Rupert Isaacson

The Horse Boy (Film, 2009)

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Kids Must Move (Facebook Page)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

HorseBoyWorld.com
Autism Society of America

The Long Ride Home: The Extraordinary Journey of Healing That Changed a Child's Life, by Rupert Isaacson

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This week Elise is bringing you an especially fun episode because it’s all about you — the listeners! This episode will be featuring the four guests that listeners have chosen as their favorites from the 103 episodes that have aired in Seasons 1 and 2 thus far! Elise will be sharing the best excerpts from these incredible episodes as she counts down the top favorite guests, including Stacy Westfall, Through Rider Gillian Larson, Guy McLean, and King Ranch's James Clement.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s special episode!

[:48] Listeners' choice guest #4 is Guy McLean!

[1:44] In this first clip, Guy speaks about his journey going from a shy little boy who found his place in the world with horses to now performing at some of the world’s most legendary venues.

[5:28] We often talk about what we want from horses, but what does Guy think horses want from us?

[9:07] Guy McLean recites his remarkable poem, “This is War,” and explains the story behind it.

[14:06] What does Guy wish people knew about ‘so-called’ difficult horses?

[21:48] Listeners' choice guest #3 is the renowned trainer, clinician, and competitor, Stacy Westfall!

[23:45] Stacy speaks about how she turned a major competition mistake around (that got her disqualified) and whether there’s a pattern for conscious decision making and willful positivism that can turn even the most disappointing moments into positive outcomes.

[27:50] Stacy speaks about positive intent, ethics, and how our connection with horses reinforces them.

[30:00] Did Stacy have any idea of the impact that her viral ride would have on her audience and viewers online?

[33:55] Stacy reflects on her experience during this viral ride.

[38:07] Guest #2 on the listeners’ choice list is James Clement III from the iconic King Ranch!

[39:26] James Clement shares the story of the legendary stallion, Old Sorrel, and why he’s so important to today’s Quarter Horses. James also shares how the King Ranch came to be founded.

[44:02] James tells the story of Captain King and explains how his life truly optimizes the American dream.

[48:11] James continues the story of Captain King and speaks about how he is following in his predecessor's footsteps.

[51:43] About the amazing heritage that many of the coworkers at King Ranch share.

[53:11] The guest that listeners voted #1 out of 103 episodes: Through Rider Gillian Larson.

[53:53] Gillian speaks about her daily routine in caring for her horses on the trail, and how she manages to keep them healthy and sound as they travel thousands of miles together.

[1:04:19] Has Gillian had any wildlife encounters during her travels with her horses? Any Stephen King moments?

[1:17:00] Elise wraps up this week’s special listeners' choice episode!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Episode 65: “Guy McLean: Australia’s National Treasure and Ambassador of the Outback”

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Episode 27: “Stacy Westfall Has Done It All: Ellen DeGeneres, NRHA Champion, Quarter Horse Congress Record, Road to the Horse Winner”
Stacy Westfall’s Viral Ride (Youtube Video)

Episode 67: “The King Ranch Legacy: Quarter Horses, Triple Crown Contenders, and 170 Years of Breeding Excellence, with James Clement”

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Episode 62: “The Lone Rider: Border to Border on Horseback, with Gillian Larson”

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Elise’s guest today wondered about the difference between the horse that moves so beautifully it’s like dancing vs. a horse that doesn’t… or possibly can’t. He recognized that it’s all about the horse’s inner strength and balance and that the way to help the horse achieve this difference is through applying yoga principles, designed and intended for humans, to our equine partners!

After 30 years refining his work with some of the finest equines and trainers in Europe, as well as his own horses, Visconte (Viscount) Simon Cocozza wrote his book, Core Conditioning for Horses: Yoga-Inspired Warm-up Techniques: Increase Suppleness, Improve Bend, and Unlock Optimal Movement. Simon is also a performance coach and examiner for the French Equestrian Federation, a British qualified trainer, and one of Europe’s leading bio-dynamics researchers. He has made it his life’s work to apply a scientific approach to the principles of equitation with the goal of helping each horse to become the healthiest he or she can be!

In this fascinating episode, Simon is joining Elise from his equestrian center in Normandy, France, where he trains and, as he says, enjoys far too much cheese.

Tune in to learn more about Simon’s philosophy and approach about core conditioning for horses and learn how you can utilize it for yourself as he walks listeners through the ideal warm-up, the benefits behind his approach, and all you need to know about what goes on in a horse’s body!

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest, Visconte Simon Cocozza.

[1:22] How do yoga-inspired warmup techniques increase suppleness, bend, and optimal movement in our horses?

[2:25] Simon describes the core muscles in horses and explains what can cause them to become stiff or painful.

[5:22] Why does Simon think that most people tend to interpret a horse’s body language as stubborn rather than being in pain or discomfort?

[8:44] The importance of finding out what is causing your horse’s discomfort or point of pain.

[12:02] Simon explains why it is so crucial to understand where a horse’s discomfort is coming from and why we should address it as soon as possible, as well as the reason behind why he wrote his book, Core Conditioning for Horses: Yoga-Inspired Warm-up Techniques.

[15:25] How can a rider differentiate between a horse experiencing discomfort vs. simply not having the talent for a particular discipline?

[18:15] How can riders utilize Simon’s approach and philosophy throughout their training and not just during warm-up?

[20:50] Simon explains the differences between fitness and elasticity in horses.

[27:15] Simon walks listeners through an ideal warm-up to employ when they first begin using his techniques.

[31:10] The incredible purpose that Simon’s yoga-inspired warm-up technique serves.

[33:27] How does a rider know when they’re successful in helping their horse’s core muscles become more conditioned?

[35:02] The positive outcomes of using Simon’s technique.

[37:44] In talking about releasing tension in our horses’ bodies, how can we release tension in our own so we’re not bringing that to the barn?

[40:32] Simon explains how he first made the connection between yoga principles and horses and provides some examples that illustrate the improvements he has seen in applying yoga principles to horses.

[43:18] Simon reflects on his childhood and growing up in Rome, Italy, with a family who was passionate about horses.

[45:24] When Simon thinks far into the future, what would he like his legacy to be?

[47:57] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[49:04] Where to find Simon’s book online and learn more about his approach!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Core Conditioning for Horses: Yoga-Inspired Warm-up Techniques: Increase Suppleness, Improve Bend, and Unlock Optimal Movement, by Visconte Simon Cocozza

Visconte Simon Cocozza’s Website (VisconteCocozza.com)

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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Every time we think we can make a definitive statement about how the human brain works, science makes advances, and in many cases, proves those beliefs to be wrong. The same is true of horses’ brains, which directly impacts how they learn, how they experience the world, and how we can more effectively work with them and provide them with better lives.

Elise’s guest today, neuroscientist, author, and horseman, Dr. Stephen Peters, was frustrated by the many often opposing views about training and working with his own horses. Dr. Peters decided to apply his knowledge of the human brain to developing science-based horsemanship to understand how a horse’s brain and its behavior are related and how they, in turn, affect learning. Dr. Peters partnered with trainer and fifth-generation rancher, Martin Black, whose early years of training horses were guided by working for legendary horsemen Tom Dorrance and Ray Hunt. Together, they wrote the book, Evidence-Based Horsemanship, to share their intriguing findings.

In this episode, Dr. Peters shares his incredible insights on how the equine brain thinks and how we can apply this knowledge to work more effectively with our own horses. He also gives his impression of how he believes horses experience the world and how we can best interact with our horses to accommodate this.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest, Dr. Stephen Peters.

[1:39] What can the equine brain think? How does it think? And how can we apply this knowledge to working more effectively with our own horses?

[6:22] What is Dr. Peters’ impression of how horses experience the world? And in particular, with regards to our interactions with them and creating that calm environment that is most beneficial to learning.

[27:38] When Dr. Peters is working with young horses, what is the middle ground between exposing them to new experiences and completely “bubble-wrapping” them?

[35:57] Has Dr. Peters been surprised by any of his findings as both a neuroscientist and a horseman?

[41:07] It’s been proven that horses are good for humans, but are humans good for horses?

[50:13] Dr. Peters and Elise discuss the ongoing evolution of horsemanship in understanding what is actually most beneficial for the horse.

[52:20] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[53:37] Where to learn more about Dr. Peters and find his book online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Evidence-Based Horsemanship, by Dr. Stephen Peters and Martin Black

EquestFile(Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Horse Head: Brain Science & Other Insights, by Maddy Butcher and Dr. Stephen Peters (Contributor)

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Lisa Diersen is the Founder and Director of the EQUUS Film Festival, recognized as the largest showcase of equestrian film, art and literature in the world. An avid horsewoman and movie lover, Lisa believes in the power of telling stories through film. She founded the EQUUS Film Festival with the mission of showing the world how horses can bring everyone together regardless of race, age, gender, ability or disability.

The EQUUS Film Festival launched in 2013 at the Arcada Theater in Lisa’s hometown of St. Charles, Illinois. The main feature was “The Horse Boy,” a documentary film about Rowan Isaacson, a young boy with autism. Lisa was moved by how the movie displayed the ups and downs of living with autism, as well as the healing role played by the horse. She knew that this message of unity and hope, shared through film, was critical to share with a broader audience.

In 2014, the Festival moved to New York City, where it screened 100 movies from 20 countries. The next year, it moved to a larger venue at the Village East Cinema and began offering national and international tour stops throughout the year. In 2017, Lisa collaborated with documentary filmmaker Julianne Neal to create the Spotlight Rescue Series, now an annual feature at the Festival. The Spotlight Series tells the stories of cats, dogs, horses and humans in rescue situations, and the people who work tirelessly to save them.

The EQUUS Film Festival showcases films from around the world, featuring a complex cross-section of the equestrian community. Films are selected for their ability to share the wonder of horses, to help us better understand the horse’s influence on our history, and to appreciate the healing that horses offer.

Since its inception, the Festival has expanded to include works of literature and art which celebrate the Festival’s mission. In addition, organizers present the WINNIE Awards, which annually recognize excellence in equestrian film, writing and art.

The 2019 EQUUS Film Festival will be held Dec. 5-8 at the Kentucky Horse Park in Lexington, Kentucky. Festival films, documentaries, shorts and more can also be viewed on the EQUUS Film Festival ON DEMAND channel, offered in collaboration with Horse Network.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode with Lisa Diersen.

[1:39] What it is about film and art, that, when combined with horses, is especially meaningful?

[5:47] Lisa speaks about the early days of building the EQUUS Film Festival.

[10:45] Lisa shares her thoughts on how the EQUUS Film Festival has given a platform to — and broadened the reach of — talented filmmakers, writers, photographers, and artists.

[15:46] Lisa explains how the EQUUS Film Festival is more than a showcase, but also a platform for education.

[24:00] What are some of the unexpected things Lisa has learned as the director and founder of the EQUUS Film Festival?

[33:18] Lisa speaks about the upcoming movie based on the 1930s book series, Billy and Blaze, by C.W. Anderson.

[38:00] What does Lisa hope the new reality TV show, Horse Rescue Heroes, accomplishes?

[44:16] Lisa shares other aspects of the EQUUS Film Festival: literature and art.

[48:35] About next week’s guest on Because of Horses.

[50:15] Where to learn more about Lisa Diersen and the EQUUS Film Festival!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

The Black Stallion(Film, 1979)

Black Beauty (Film, 1994)

EQUUS Film Festival

Lisa Diersen

Elegant Enchanting Lusitano

Kentucky Horse Park

Diana De Rosa

HF Films Rare Equine Trust Mustang Saviors (Film, 2019)

BraveHearts Therapeutic Riding & Educational Center

Talking to the Air (Film, 2019)

Their Last Ride (Film, 2015)

Billy and Blaze,by C.W. Anderson

Billy and Blaze the Movie

Horse Rescue Heroes (Reality TV Show)

The Horses of Fukushima (Film, 2013)

Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Film, 2002)

EquestFile(Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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This week, the Because of Horses Podcast is celebrating its 100th episode with a very special conversation with legendary reiner, Shawn Flarida! Shawn is the winner of five gold medals at the World Equestrian Games, winner of the All-American Quarter Horse Congress nine times, and the first person to break the $6 million mark in Reining, which he did at the 2017 National Reining Horse Association (NRHA) Futurity.

But, despite all of the record-breaking firsts and the extraordinary career achievements, for Shawn, family is the most important thing in his life — and, of course, he really loves his horses! At a very young age, Shawn knew he was going to be a trainer. And as the son of a respected horseman, who both encouraged and demanded the best of him, he developed a keen understanding of horses, a passion for reining, and a reputation for being one of the hardest working riders in the sport.

Tune in to hear all about Shawn’s successful career journey, his tips on reining, some of the most impactful moments in both competition and training, and his incredible passion for working with horses that has led him to be as successful as he is today! Shawn also shares many additional tips on what to consider if you’re debating going pro, how to raise your performance in the show ring, what young aspiring riders (and their parents) should consider when they begin to compete, how to better read and train your horse, and which qualities are most important for a reining horse.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest, Shawn Flarida!

[1:10] What it has been like for Shawn to share his remarkable career with his family.

[2:19] What about reining holds such appeal for Shawn personally?

[3:20] Shawn gives a ‘101’ about reining and what listeners new to the sport should know!

[4:16] Shawn shares some tips for two difficult movements in reining: the spin and the slide.

[7:00] Shawn reflects on some memorable moments from what is known to be his breakout year in 2001, where he won several major events.

[8:10] What does Shawn remember from his first time representing the United States overseas?

[9:40] Before Shawn’s incredible success, was there ever a moment where he realized the potential of having — not just a successful reining career — but one that would include breaking many firsts in reining history and breaking multiple world records?

[13:38] What goes through Shawn’s mind right before he begins his pattern?

[17:05] Shawn’s perspective on wearing two hats as a trainer and a competitor.

[18:58] How to raise your performance in the show ring.

[20:15] What Shawn thinks riders should consider when debating going pro.

[22:20] Having competed and traveled all over the world, why is Springfield, Ohio home to Shawn?

[23:49] Shawn speaks about the significance behind the large quote on the homepage of his website: “Success isn’t just about what you accomplish in your life, it’s about what you do to inspire others.”

[25:00] Shawn offers some tips on how to better read your horse as well as how to teach it.

[26:25] Shawn describes his unique connection with horses and whether or not it comes naturally to him.

[28:49] What qualities make for a great reining horse?

[31:30] What does Shawn look for in a horse when determining their potential for reining?

[33:25] Has Shawn ever had a horse-of-a-lifetime?

[36:45] Shawn describes why reining truly takes a village!

[39:40] Shawn shares some of the moments that stand out for him in his career.

[41:52] What would Shawn like his legacy to be?

[42:40] What was it like for Shawn to see his son, Sam, show for the first time?

[44:39] What was it like to show with his son? And how did that performance come about?

[47:52] Shawn gives his thoughts on why our connection with horses is so deep for some of us.

[48:58] Shawn explains what he believes is the difference between a good reiner and a great one. He also gives his advice to young aspiring riders and their parents.

[50:55] What does Shawn think drives us to be with horses?

[52:15] Shawn speaks about some of the individuals from the NRHA Hall of Fame that inspire him.

[55:40] How does Shawn define success?

[1:00:18] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[1:02:01] Where to learn more about Shawn online!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Shawn Flarida

EquestFile(Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Rodney Atkins

Winston Churchill

NRHA — Shawn Flarida

NRHA Hall of Fame

NRHA Legend — Bill Horn

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Mark Rashid is an internationally acclaimed trainer, clinician, and prolific author, renowned for taking the guesswork out of communicating with our horses. His ability to understand the horse’s point of view and solve difficult problems with communication rather than force is unmatched.

Mark began working with horses at age 10, when he met the “old man,” who taught him to work with horses, not against them, and to listen to what the horse is trying to say. This figure is featured in many of his books, credited for teaching Mark a great deal about horses and laying the foundation for him to becoming a more enlightened horseman. Over 50 years later, Mark is recognized around the world for his horse-centric training philosophies, defined by quiet determination and working with, not against, the horse.

A former ranch hand with experience gathering herds and managing stock, Mark now devotes most of his time to teaching and working one-on-one at clinics to improve horse and rider partnerships. Mark’s ability to understand the horse’s point of view allows him to solve many issues without the use of force.

Mark’s approach to training has been heavily influenced by his study of Yoshinkan Aikido, a Japanese martial art. Aikido, which translates to “the way of harmony,” is founded on the concept of bringing even the most difficult or dangerous situation to a harmonious conclusion. Mark, who has earned a second degree blackbelt, uses the core principles of Aikido in his daily horsemanship, looking for quiet ways to blend with a horse’s energy in order to help the horse understand what is being asked of them.

Mark teaches aikido for horsemen through his Aibado workshops, offered around the world. Based in Estes Park, Colorado, when he is not on the road Mark enjoys spending time with his family and playing music. A prolific author, he has written 14 books, including one novel, and has released two music CDs.

Tune in to this week’s episode to hear all of Mark’s insights on becoming a better horseman, what his experiences with horses have taught him, how he has shifted the paradigm of the “problem horse” through his teachings, how to continually improve your relationship with your horse, and why demonstration can often be a much more powerful teacher than words.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest, Mark Rashid.

[:54] How did the “old man” (a figure noted in many of Mark’s books) guide Mark in developing his own training program in the early days? And how has Mark’s approach evolved over the years?

[4:50] Why demonstration can be a more powerful teacher than using words.

[10:50] Mark speaks about his work with rehabilitation work and training mustangs.

[20:08] Mark explains the concept of being a “passive leader” and how to apply the best qualities of being a passive leader in working with our horses. He also provides some fantastic examples.

[28:45] Mark speaks about how his experiences with horses have taught him a great deal about people, how martial arts improved his horsemanship, and how to truly connect with horses.

[37:16] Mark speaks more about the martial arts, aikido, and how it improved his horsemanship.

[43:08] How Mark shifts the paradigm of the “problem horse” in his book, Finding the Missed Path: The Art of Restarting Horses.

[55:00] Mark highlights some things all horse owners seem to be doing universally that we should improve upon.

[59:35] How can we improve our relationships with our horses? Are there guideposts to help us along? And how do we know when we need to correct certain behavior?

[1:03:00] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[1:04:35] Where to find Mark Rashid online and learn about his upcoming clinics!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Mark Rashid

EquestFile(Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Dr. Steve Peters

Morihei Ueshiba (Founder of Aikido)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Finding the Missed Path: The Art of Restarting Horses, by Mark Rashid

‘Considering the Horse, Mark Rashid’ Facebook Page

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"Desert Flight" is an award-winning film documentary that explores the horse-human bond through the world of show jumping. Filmmaker Samia Staehle’s goal was to capture the visceral way horses enrich our lives and our senses. The film provides an honest look at how much the sport of show jumping means to its participants through the perspectives of equestrians from different walks of life.

Shot over three weeks during the climactic end of the HITS Thermal horse show circuit in California, "Desert Flight" is both visually stunning and artistically compelling. Samia, a former Associated Press news producer and amateur show jumper from Washington state, chose the Thermal show grounds for her work partially because the stunning beauty of the desert reminded her of her former home in India.

"Desert Flight" includes interviews from such luminaries of the sport as Richard Spooner, Will Simpson, Mandy Porter and Richard Fellers, but also includes vignettes from lesser-known equestrians with big dreams. "Desert Flight" was filmed by Tell Studios, whose Detroit, Michigan, based crew had no experience with horses. Instead, they were told to “go out and find what drives these horse people to do what they do every day.”

"Desert Flight" made its world premiere at the FEI World Equestrian Games in Tryon, North Carolina, September 2018. The 39-minute film was named Best of Festival and Best Documentary at the 2018 EQUUS Film Festival in New York City and is available to US Equestrian Federation members on the USEF Network.

Topics of Discussion:

[:24] About today’s episode with Samia Staehle.

[1:39] What does Samia remember most from Desert Flight’s production?

[4:21] What Desert Flight ultimately accomplished as a film.

[7:45] How the Because of Horses Podcast got its name!

[12:06] Samia’s thoughts on the notion of “because of horses” and how it relates to her film.

[15:00] The possible “dark side” in the horse world: becoming divided or siloed.

[20:37] The importance of being empathetic with newcomers to the horse world.

[22:33] Why does Samia think the horse/human relationship is so deeply essential to those of us who love horses?

[26:00] Elise and Samia discuss what makes up the horse/human connection.

[31:18] An important message from Desert Flight: prioritizing horsemanship and maintaining a relationship with your horse.

[35:10] Elise and Samia reflect on Richard Spooner’s astonishing display of horsemanship.

[39:18] Samia speaks about what she would really like people to take away from Desert Flightand shares her favorite film memories.

[45:44] Elise and Samia discuss embracing humility in horsemanship and the sport.

[48:48] Elise and Samia celebrate the non-gendered language used within the sport and the equality that exists within competitions.

[51:52] Elise and Samia discuss another component of the film: how the riders highlight the fact that it takes a passionate team behind them to help them get where they are.

[59:14] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[1:00:38] Where to learn more about Desert Flight and watch it online!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Samia Staehle

Associated Press

Desert Flight(Film, 2019)

Kyle King

Rich Fellers

Mandy Porter

Will Simpson

Richard Spooner

Ashlee Bond

AIG $1 Million Show Jumping Grand Prix

The Black Stallion (Film, 1979)

Beezie Madden

McLain Ward

EquestFile(Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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This week is a very special edition of Because of Horses! Your host, Elise Gaston Chand, talks with some of the horse world’s most accomplished equestrians — sharing their riding and training philosophies, their insights into horses, advice for aspiring competitors, and their fondest memories of the Hampton Classic Horse Show! These featured guests are Georgina Bloomberg, Kelli Cruciotti, Peter Wylde, Joe Fargis, and Chief Press Officer Marty Bauman.

For over 40 years, the Classic has featured world-class riders and horses — including Olympic and Pan American Games medalists — from around the globe, competing for $800,000 in prize money. With something for everyone, from the avid horse lover to the non-equestrian spectator, the Classic is one of the largest outdoor horse shows in the U.S.; a not-to-miss segment on the summer tour. Where else can you watch McLain Ward, Kent Farrington, and Anne Kursinski compete… then spot Bruce Springsteen watching his phenomenally talented daughter, Jessica, clear a course in record time? Or see Steven Spielberg, Jerry Seinfeld, Kelly Ripa, Brooke Shields, or Martha Stewart stroll by?

The Classic is also an event straight from the heart with fundraising and community support, animal adoptions onsite, championship competition for disabled riders, and one of the most anticipated classes during the week-long show: Leadline, with our littlest riders judged by two-time Olympic gold medalist, Joe Fargis.

The Classic runs August 25th through September 1st, 2019, in Bridgehampton, New York.

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About our accomplished guests:

Joe Fargis is one of the greats of show jumping. He trained under the legendary Bertalan de Nemethy and is perhaps best known for his partnership with the Thoroughbred mare Touch of Class, with whom he won the individual and team gold medals at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics. He also won the team silver medal at the 1988 Seoul Olympics with Mill Pearl. Joe was inducted into the Show Jumping Hall of Fame in 2007 and was awarded the US Equestrian Federation Lifetime Achievement Award in 2012.

US Olympian, trainer and youth mentor Peter Wylde is one of the most well-respected horsemen in the sport of show jumping, not just for his extensive competitive success but also his commitment to the education of both amateurs and juniors. Peter is best known for his partnership with Turnabout Farms’ Fein Cera, who he rode to the individual bronze and the Best Horse award at the 2002 World Equestrian Games in Jerez, Spain, and the team gold medal at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece. Peter is a three-time grand prix winner at the Hampton Classic.

Georgina Bloomberg is a native New Yorker and international show jumper who grew up competing all along the east coast. She made her FEI World Cup Final debut in 2005 and was a member of the winning team in the Samsung Super League Nation’s Cup in France. Georgina was a member of the bronze medal-winning Pan American Games team in 2015 and competed in Gothenburg, Sweden in this year’s Longines FEI World Cup Finals. She is a noted philanthropist, focusing particularly on issues related to animal welfare.

Kelli Cruciotti is an emerging star in U.S. show jumping, currently ranked 26th in the country by the United States Equestrian Federation, and a 2020 Olympic hopeful. Kelli enjoyed a storied junior career, with success in all three rings and a win at the coveted 2015 USEF/Pessoa Medal Finals, but today show jumping has become her main passion. After turning professional in 2016, Kelli has continued to pile up top results in the jumper ring at such prestigious shows as Devon, Harrisburg, the Hamptons, Capital Challenge, Washington and more. In 2019, she represented the United States in her first Longines FEI World Cup Final in Gothenburg, Sweden, finishing 16th on her mare, Hadja Van Orshof.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s special episode!

[2:16] Elise introduces this week’s first guest, Georgina Bloomberg.

[2:38] To Georgina, what makes the Hampton Classic a not-to-miss show?

[3:59] How has winning last year’s opening Grand Prix affected Georgina going into this year’s competition?

[5:55] Georgina tells a story that helps illustrate how the Hampton Classic has such universal appeal to horse lovers of all kinds.

[7:43] Georgina gives her advice to young riders.

[12:12] Elise thanks Georgina for joining her!

[13:38] Elise introduces Kelli Cruciotti.

[13:46] Kelli describes what she loves about the Hampton Classic.

[15:46] Kelli reflects on the first time she competed at this iconic show.

[16:39] Elise thanks Kelli for joining her!

[16:55] Elise introduces Peter Wylde.

[17:10] Peter explains why it is so important to first understand the basics (i.e. getting the rider/horse relationship and riding skills solid) before moving on to jumping.

[18:31] Peter gives his recommendations on the sorts of things riders should be looking for when they observe and study top competitors in action.

[21:17] Peter shares some of his favorite memories from his time spent at the Hampton Classic and why it has been a standout show for him, over the years.

[23:25] Peter gives his advice to young riders attending the Hampton Classic for the first time this year.

[24:20] Elise thanks Peter for joining her!

[24:55] Elise introduces Joe Fargis.

[25:20] Joe explains how valuing simplicity by focusing on and perfecting the basics helps riders to be — not just better jumpers — but better riders, overall.

[26:35] Joe explains how riders can stop thinking about training as work, and instead focus on ensuring that the horse enjoys the experience even while they’re learning.

[27:48] What about coaching talented young riders and helping them to build upon their skills through programs like the EAP is so important to Joe?

[28:46] What is Joe hoping to teach young riders when he asks them a question (usually related to riding, horse anatomy, or their tack) during Leadline? And what are some of his favorite memories from judging at the Hampton Classic?

[30:16] What is it like for Joe to be a part of a young rider’s journey and to see some of them go on to such terrific success?

[30:49] Elise thanks Joe for joining her!

[31:58] Elise introduces Chief Press Officer Marty Bauman.

[32:04] Why Marty thinks the Hampton Classic holds such broad appeal — not just year after year — but decade after decade.

[35:08] What does USEF recognition of the Classic as a Heritage Competition mean to Marty and the show?

[37:31] Elise and Marty discuss what it’s like for equestrians to compete at the Hampton Classic.

[39:45] Marty reflects on how far some of these young riders have come and how rewarding it is to be a part of the Classic’s incredible history.

[45:12] What Marty would like listeners to know about the Hampton Classic.

[50:15] Where to learn more about the Hampton Classic.

[50:49] Elise thanks Marty for joining her.

[50:57] Elise wraps up this week’s special episode.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

Georgina Bloomberg

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

The United States Pony Club

A Parent's Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

Joe Fargis

Peter Wylde

Extraordinary Horseman and Olympian: Peter Wylde (Episode 86, Because of Horses)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Rising Star Kelli Cruciotti, Aiming for 2020 Gold (Episode 93, Because of Horses)

Chief Press Officer Marty Bauman

United States Equestrian Federation (USEF)

Bruce Springsteen

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Kimberly Van Kampen is a top supporter of U.S. dressage and one of the most respected breeders of Pure Spanish Horses in the world. Kim has dedicated her career to promoting the growth and development of U.S. dressage through her leadership and sponsorship of various programs, riders and horses. She is a top supporter of the Adequan Global Dressage Festival but is equally committed to helping young riders at the grassroots of the sport.

Kim is the founder and owner of Hampton Green Farms, with locations in Fruitport, Michigan, and Wellington, Florida. She developed a top-quality program focused on breeding, training and selling some of the best Pure Spanish Horses (P.R.E.) in the world. She is the owner of the stallion Grandioso III, who represented Spain at the 2012 and 2016 Olympic Games and the 2014 World Equestrian Games.

Kim is committed to making dressage more accessible to young riders from diverse backgrounds. Hampton Green Farm in Michigan hosts the Dressage 4 Kids Youth Dressage Festival Midwest each summer, and their Wellington facility is the base for the organization’s Winter Intensive Training Program. In addition, Kim has sponsored several alumni of the Dressage 4 Kids program, providing mounts and training and competitive experiences.

Kim has helped to support additional youth educational opportunities through her organization, Discover Dressage. In 2017, Discover Dressage committed to donate $1 million over four years to American junior, young rider and under-25 projects. Discover Dressage was named the title sponsor for the U.S. Dressage Emerging Athletes Program, which provides strategic guidance and educational opportunities for selected athletes under the age of 25.

Discover Dressage also presents American Equestrians Got Talent, the Robert Dover-hosted fundraiser for the development of youth programs that have a goal of sending squads of junior, young and under-25 riders to compete in Europe, similar to Grand Prix and small tour teams.

Kim is a passionate promoter of the P.R.E. and is the founder and Board President of the U.S. P.R.E. Association. Her active promotion of the P.R.E. has helped increase the breed’s popularity within competitive dressage, from local shows to the international arena.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode with Kimberly Van Kampen.

[1:25] Kim tells the story of what happened after she met Lendon Gray in 2008 and asked Courtney King Dye to ride her stallion, Grandioso III.

[3:28] Why are the elements of responsibility, compassion, and sportsmanship so important to Kim? And why are they so critical to the horse world?

[8:42] Kim speaks about the character children gain through involvement in the horse world and its importance to her as both a mother and an equestrian.

[13:38] How does the Emerging Athletes Program (EAP) help prepare young riders? And what outcomes has Kim seen?

[21:37] In 1999, Kim attended SICAB, the International PRE Horse Fair, in Spain. She describes her first experience at the fair and what it was about the PRE breed that was so captivating for her.

[25:52] Kim and Elise describe the PRE breed characteristics and why the Iberian horse inspires such passion in its owners.

[34:58] How Kim defines success and what it means to be successful. She also tells the story of Grandioso III, which helps illustrate her views.

[42:50] How it felt for Kim when Grandioso was recognized in the international community.

[46:49] What does the Van Kampen legacy mean to Kim?

[51:10] Kim talks about the evolution of dressage in the U.S.

[54:50] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[56:13] Where to learn more about dressage, PRE, and Kim Van Kampen.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Hampton Green Farm

Adequan® Global Dressage Festival

The United States PRE Association (USPREA)

USEF

Lendon Gray

Dressage4Kids Winter Intensive Training Program

Courtney King Dye

Lendon’s Youth Dressage Festival

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Emerging Athletes Program (EAP)

Charlotte Bredahl

Because of Horses’ Episode with Charlotte Bredahl

SICAB (International PRE Horse Fair)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Robert Dover

Because of Horses’ Episode with Robert Dover

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Jo Ellen Hayden is the author of the Horse Heroes website, produced in collaboration with Brooke USA and the World War I Centennial Commission, and she is Elise’s guest on this episode of Because of Horses.

Horse Heroes was created to shine light on the critical role equines played throughout the world during the years of The Great War and to honor their legacy through raising awareness of the needs of the nearly 100 million working equines in the developing world.

With 250 images and video clips, Horse Heroes is the largest single collection of photographs of American animals in World War I and is one of the most comprehensive historical accounts of equines in The Great War ever compiled.

Jo Ellen (B.A., M.A., History) researched and wrote the site, which includes historical information on the purchase, training, shipping, veterinary care and battlefield conditions for the over one million American horses, mules and donkeys who served Allied forces in Europe.

She carefully documented the extensive use of equines, both in harness and under saddle, serving roles ranging from carrying cavalrymen into battle to helping wounded soldiers to safety. Jo Ellen shares that equines often hauled nearly impossible loads in difficult terrain.

Equines suffered greatly during the war, with only 200 returning to the United States. The U.S. Army Veterinary Corps, formed only a year before the war began, struggled to provide care under often desperate conditions.

The plight of equines during and after World War I was what inspired Englishwoman Dorothy Brooke to take action to improve their conditions. She founded Brooke in the 1930s. Brooke USA was founded in 2007 as a sister organization to Brooke, now the world’s largest equine welfare charity. Brooke USA funds programs to improve the living and working conditions of equines and the families that rely on them through culturally sensitive and practical approaches geared towards long-lasting solutions.

Horse Heroes provides a resource for historians, educators and equine enthusiasts to better understand the tremendous impact of the horse during World War I.

The plight of equines during and after World War I was what inspired Englishwoman Dorothy Brooke to take action to improve their conditions. She founded Brooke in the 1930s. Brooke USA was founded in 2007 as a sister organization to Brooke, now the world’s largest equine welfare charity. Brooke USA funds programs to improve the living and working conditions of equines and the families that rely on them through culturally sensitive and practical approaches geared toward long-lasting solutions.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode with special guest, Jo Ellen Hayden.

[1:29] Jo Ellen speaks about why it is so important to never forget the service the horses and mules of WWI.

[3:00] Jo Ellen paints a picture of what life was like for the horses and mules during the war.

[10:51] Jo Ellen speaks about why it’s important not to romanticize war, sharing what animals’ lives were really like when horses were used for warfare.

[15:04] Jo Ellen reads a powerful quote from Sir Edward Elgar about horses in the war.

[16:16] Jo Ellen speaks about what she has learned about the soldiers’ view and affection for the horses that served beside them.

[21:32] The legendary Dorothy Brooke, The Brooke’s founder, and the critical work the organization fulfills today.

[32:36] Elise and Jo Ellen speak about what happened to horses after the war ended.

[49:05] The origin of the American WWI horses.

[54:15] What factors did the military consider when selecting horses for different jobs?

[57:18] Elise gives a preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[58:19] Jo Ellen speaks about all that we owe to horses during WWI and other key takeaways from today’s conversation.

[1:01:37] Where to learn more online and why you should consider supporting Brooke USA to impact working equines all around the world.

[1:06:35] Elise thanks Jo Ellen for joining her this episode.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Brooke USA

Brooke USA Horse Heroes

Because of Horses Episode 88: “The Real War Horse and Winston Churchill at the Gallop, with Brough Scott”

All Quiet on the Western Front: A Novel, by Erich Maria Remarque

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

War Horse (Film 2011)

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Julianne Neal is an award-winning director, producer and educator, committed to creating films which raise awareness of issues facing horses and their owners. She is the director of the critically acclaimed documentary, “A Pony and His Boy,” one of many films that Julianne has directed for the Spotlight Rescue Series, a partnership with the EQUUS Film Festival.

“A Pony and His Boy,” tells the story of Josh, an 8-year-old boy living with Down syndrome, and the transformative effect of his relationship with a 28-year-old pony named Berry. A Winnie Award fan favorite when it debuted at the EQUUS Film Festival in 2018, the film demonstrates the value of the older equine beyond its peak performance years.

Julianne is committed to helping better the lives of both horses and humans through improved relationships and understanding. With her partner Bruce Anderson, Julianne is the co-founder of Nature’s View Natural Humanship, an organization dedicated to improving the mental and physical well-being of horses and humans. They also coordinate The Marley Project, a nonprofit committed to supporting equine educational and public service projects.

Julianne is the coordinator of visual and performing arts for the Fairfield County School District in South Carolina. She is a graduate of the Director’s Program of the Manhattan Film Institute and the founder and owner of JA Media Connections. Julianne is also the host of the EQUUS Film Festival’s annual stop in Camden, South Carolina.

Topics of Discussion:

[:44] Julianne explains “humanship” and how it has guided her work.

[4:00] Julianna discusses how horses now, more than ever, are crucial to our wellbeing and internal health as humans.

[6:35] How getting out and spending time with horses helps us reconnect with life, nature, and ourselves.

[13:15] How Julianna got involved with EQUUS Film Festival and how she keeps her students involved in the filming process.

[18:22] How the film The Edge: Bruce Anderson — Natural Humanship originated.

[29:05] As someone who has participated on multiple levels at the EQUUS Film Festival, what does Julianna think listeners should know about the festival and why it’s so important?

[35:00] Julianna shares her favorite stories experiences in filmmaking.

[40:48] Julianna speaks about another film she is incredibly proud of: A Pony And His Boy.

[46:06] Julianna reflects on her connection with horses and horse people.

[50:05] Elise gives a preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[51:52] Where to learn more about Julianne and follow her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

EQUUS Film Festival

Nature’s View Natural Humanmanship
The Marley Project

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

The Edge: Bruce Anderson — Natural Humanship (Film, 2016)

The wild horses of Abaco

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

A Pony and His Boy: The Story of Berry & Josh (Film, 2019)

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JAMediaConnections.com

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The wildly talented 22-year-old rider, Kelli Cruciotti, epitomizes what can be accomplished when you follow your dreams. Her illustrious junior equitation career included medaling on the Young Rider Nation’s Cup Team, winning the Artisan Farms Under 25 series in Wellington, and capturing the blue ribbon in the Encana $50,000 Under 25 Grand Prix at Spruce Meadows. And it culminated with her phenomenal win at the USEF Pessoa Medal Finals in 2015! Not only was Kelli the youngest rider in the history of this class to ever win it, but it was also her very first open Grand Prix. Now, she’s set her sights on the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo.

But while her accomplishments and dreams are vast, Kelli maintains a down-to-earth attitude and relentless dedication to personal improvement. Training under the watchful eye of her mom, Cindy, and godmother, Kelli Clevenger, Kelli works hard at her family’s facility, Serenity Farm, where she doubles as an associate trainer and resident Grand Prix rider when she’s not traveling the world for competition.

In today’s episode, join Kelli and Elise as they explore the world of international jumping competitions, Kelli’s favorite moments in and out of the arena, her career as a competitor, and the many challenges that come with riding at the highest levels. Kelli also shares her fan-girl moments; how she first connected with her horse-of-a-lifetime, Chamonix; pivotal moments in her career; and gives her advice to other young riders also looking to pursue their own equestrian dreams!

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode with rising star, Kelli Cruciotti!

[1:43] Kelli speaks about her family’s incredible involvement in her career.

[5:15] Kelli talks about her family’s shared devotion to horses.

[7:11] In what ways has Kelli’s life been changed by her competitive riding and her love for horses? And what advice would she give to young competitive riders who are also interested in pursuing their own equestrian dreams?

[9:08] Where did Kelli’s goal for competing in the Olympics come from? And how has that dream influenced her career as it has developed?

[12:19] What is it like to compete in these incredibly prestigious events and come out on top?

[13:53] Has Kelli had any fan-girl moments?

[16:10] What is it like for Kelli to know that others have their own fan-girl moments... with her?

[20:03] Outside of the competitive arena, what is the camaraderie like between Kelli and other top riders?

[23:29] Has there been a point that she has marked as a pivotal moment in her career?

[25:39] How did Kelli first connect with her horse-of-a-lifetime, Chamonix?

[28:02] Kelli speaks about the challenges she faced when she fractured two vertebrae and was told she would never ride again.

[30:52] Kelli speaks about experiencing every equestrian’s nightmare: the tragedy of a barn fire.

[34:17] What qualities does Kelli look for in selecting a horse?

[37:19] How Kelli’s mother has helped her in every step of her career.

[41:17] Kelli’s perspective on training her horses and knowing when to compete them.

[42:57] How does Kelli keep her mind on the moment while she’s in the arena competing?

[45:04] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[46:15] Kelli shares some of her favorite memories competing in various competitions – including winning over the legendary Beezie Madden!

[47:10] How does Kelli juggle coaching clients and competing at the same events?

[49:21] Where to learn more about Kelli and follow her on social media.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Kelli Cruciotti

Kelli’s Instagram

Kelli’s Facebook

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

United States Pony Clubs

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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Humans love horses. We all know this. And just one expression of this passion is to breed horses for particular jobs — a skill that has historically been based upon horsemanship, knowledge of bloodlines, and a significant amount of instinct. We also know that each foal brings with it a genetic legacy with the potential for qualities that make for a talented jumper, or a superb cutting horse, or a blazing fast racehorse.

In this week’s episode, Elise is joined by geneticist Dr. Emmeline Hill, all the way from Ireland, to discuss the genetics that can determine Thoroughbred racing potential. Dr. Emmeline Hill’s breakthrough discovery of the “speed gene” means that we can predict a horse’s optimal race distance by examining its DNA to determine whether it possesses genes that are more suited to sprints, to middle distance, or to longer races! This gene could also have the added benefit of helping racehorses who might otherwise get labeled “too slow” when, in fact, they may actually be fast enough if they are entered in the correct distance races.

Join Elise and Dr. Emmeline Hill in this episode to hear all about her incredible findings, the studies that have been conducted around this research, and much, much more!

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode with Dr. Emmeline Hill!

[1:30] What is the “speed gene” and how does it correlate to performance in racehorses?

[3:06] How have Dr. Hill’s findings matched up with actual performance on the track?

[7:35] Beyond racing: how genetic studies might someday maximize the potential of each individual horse, highlighting the discipline they are most suited for.

[13:05] Have Dr. Hill’s studies extended through the generations of horses to determine the degree to which parents pass on this gene to their offspring? And what other factors play a role in determining a horse’s potential?

[18:47] Is the gene only found in blood? Or is it possible to isolate it in tissue or hair -- even in ancient horses’ remains?

[22:30] How fast can we expect Thoroughbreds to realistically run? Is there an evolutionary or anatomical speed ceiling?

[29:10] How does Dr. Hill see breeders addressing negative components in a limited gene pool (whether it’s Thoroughbreds or any other breed with a closed stud book)?

[32:12] The importance of genetic diversity.

[33:35] How Dr. Hill’s findings can be applied to humans as well!

[36:22] Could we identify the horse-loving gene in people someday?

[36:52] About next week’s episode of the Because of Horses Podcast!

[38:08] About Dr. Hill’s legendary equestrian roots and why she originally became so captivated by horse breeding.

[40:05] How Dr. Hill applied her education in human genetics to horses and breeding.

[44:00] Where to discover more of Dr. Hill’s work.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Dr. Emmeline Hill

Myostatin

PRCP Gene

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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Plusvital.com

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Elise’s guest today is Jim Masterson, creator of the Masterson Equine Bodywork — an innovative form of equine massage that allows the horse to release pain and tension in muscles and connective tissue. It’s based on the use of light touch and gentle movement in a relaxed state, as well as careful observation of the horse’s response. It not only helps with a horse’s overall wellness, but it also improves the communication and relationship between a horse and their rider.

Jim has applied his method of equine massage on behalf of the U.S. Equestrian Team’s Endurance Team and for horses competing in FEI World Cup, Pan American, and World Games competitions. He has also worked on equine competitors on the U.S. Hunter-Jumper Show circuit, including top events such as the USEF and Maclay Medal series, and FEI Grand Prix, Nation’s Cup, Pan American, and World Cup jumping events. And Jim has helped members of the USET Singles Driving Team and of the USET Jumping team.

An international clinician, Jim has presented to large crowds of enthusiastic horse owners around the world, including the Equitana Asia Pacific and Equine Affaire equine conventions and Your Horse Live event in the UK.

In this week’s episode, Elise and Jim discuss the Masterson Method in detail and some of the most significant results it brings. He shares many details about the “magic” and science behind the method, how anyone can incorporate it in their own routine, and how to become officially certified. Don’t miss this week’s important episode to learn all about how you can better the overall health and wellness of your horse(s)!

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest, Jim Masterson.

[1:32] Jim speaks about the profound event that led to his interest in equine massage.

[6:47] How to differentiate between your horse just not understanding what we’re asking vs. stiffness from discomfort.

[10:48] Jim speaks about the importance of deepening our relationship with our horse.

[13:50] When Jim first approaches a horse, how does he identify where the discomfort originates? And how does he decide where to start addressing the issue(s)?

[18:37] Are riders collectively doing something that’s leading to our horses’ muscle tension?

[23:02] How can we work intuitively with our horses?

[26:08] One of the most important foundations for Jim’s method: us.

[27:00] How Jim works with horses who simply can’t tolerate a direct approach.

[30:33] Jim highlights a positive component to increasing communication with our horse(s).

[33:05] Jim speaks about his and Mark Rashid’s training and clinics.

[37:41] The magic and science behind releasing tension in horses.

[42:05] How do clinic participants bring what they learned from Jim’s teaching back to their own horses and barn?

[44:12] How does Jim recommend incorporating his form of equine massage into our regular routine?

[49:47] What to know about the Masterson Method to become certified.

[52:48] About Jim’s upcoming pilot program!

[54:47] About next week’s guest on Because of Horses.

[56:17] Jim speaks about what he’s up to and where to find out more about him and the Masterson Method.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Jim Masterson | The Masterson Method

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Mark Rashid

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Bladder Meridian Technique

The Masterson Method Youtube Channel

Beyond Horse Massage: A Breakthrough Interactive Method for Alleviating Soreness, Strain, and Tension, by Jim Masterson

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Documentary filmmaker Ron Davis, whose work includes Harry and Snowman and the 2019 release Life in the Doghouse, seeks to tell inspirational true stories that are largely unscripted. Ron’s own journey to becoming a filmmaker might be worth a documentary of its own.

Ron grew up riding and competing in the hunter/jumper divisions near his home in northern New Jersey, but left the sport behind to pursue a career in publishing in New York City. He spent 10 years working his way up the ranks, ultimately managing global sales and licensing for both Simon and Schuster and Sterling Publishing, a subsidiary of Barnes and Noble.

After seeing a video celebrating a friend’s life, Ron was inspired to create a similar piece as a gift for an equestrian he knew. A filmmaker friend, a producer for the sitcom How I Met Your Mother, saw the piece and recognized that Ron had an innate talent for filmmaking. With his friend’s encouragement, Ron decided to pursue filmmaking in his spare time.

In 2009, using his background in sales to help fundraise for the project, Ron co-produced and co-directed his first full-length film, Pageant. The piece debuted on television on The Sundance Channel and played at theaters in New York City.

In 2010, Ron relocated to Wellington, Florida, to pursue filmmaking full time. He founded Docutainment Films, which has produced four full-length documentaries and has several upcoming pieces in pre-production.

The FilmRise/Netflix film Harry and Snowman tells the true story of Harry deLeyer and Snowman, a slaughter-bound horse of unknown breeding that deLeyer purchased at the New Holland Auction in Pennsylvania for just $80. Together, the pair wrote their own rags-to-riches story, winning prestigious show jumping competitions. The film premiered at the Full Frame Documentary Film Festival in 2015 before opening to general release in September of 2016. It was a New York Times “Critic’s Pick” and won the Audience Award for Best Documentary at both the Nantucket and Prescott Film Festivals in 2015. Harry and Snowman ultimately became one of 2016’s top-grossing theatrical documentaries.

In 2018, Ron completed Life in the Doghouse, another FilmRise/Netflix production that chronicles the work of equestrians Danny Robertshaw and Ron Danta, who together have rescued over 11,000 abused, abandoned and starving dogs. Danny & Ron’s Rescue finds safe homes for the rescues through their network of horse people and attending horse shows. The film premiered on Netflix in June 2019 and was lauded by the likes of Ellen DeGeneres, who urged her fans and followers to see the film and support Danny & Ron’s Rescue.

Ron will donate all the net proceeds from his film to dog charities across the country. He is committed to producing only stories he cares about deeply and looks to craft character-driven pieces which inspire and warm the heart.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest.

[1:43] Ron Davis’ high-level success in New York’s publishing world before he followed his dreams to become a filmmaker.

[6:06] How Ron’s first film, Pageant, served as an affirmation that he was on the right path.

[7:49] Why Ron’s cinematographer for his first film, Pageant, Clay Westervelt, ultimately decided to work with him as a first-time filmmaker.

[9:27] Ron discusses making tough decisions based on instincts, how he gets through stressful situations, and the challenges inherent in filming a documentary.

[17:50] Prior to interviewing someone on film, how does Ron help them to relax and speak naturally on-camera about their story?

[21:24] Ron reflects on HBO’s decision to not produce Harry and Snowman.

[22:42] Ron speaks about the importance of embracing hard work and trusting your instincts.

[24:22] Ron speaks about the crucial role of a director in the filmmaking process.

[28:40] What keeps Ron motivated?

[32:01] Ron shares some of his memories from creating his huge success, Harry and Snowman.

[36:05] How did Ron help Harry to open up for the film?

[40:48] What compelled Ron to create Miss You Can Do It?

[43:18] Ron discusses his perspective on pitching film projects and hearing “not now” or “no.”

[44:51] What it was like filming Life in the Doghouse and capturing some of the incredibly emotional moments.

[48:45] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[50:06] How does Ron define success? What does he hope to accomplish when he looks back at his body of work later in life?

[52:50] Ron gives advice to aspiring filmmakers!

[56:17] Where to learn more about Ron, his films, and follow him online!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Docutainment Films

Harry and Snowman (Film, 2016)

Simon & Schuster

Sterling Publishing

New York Film Academy

Pageant (Film, 2008)

Miss You Can Do It (Film, 2013)

Clay Westervelt

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Life in the Doghouse (Film, 2018)

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

Stacy Westfall

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Abbey Curran

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Rood & Riddle Equine Hospital in Lexington, Kentucky, is an international leader in veterinary medicine, providing specialized medical and surgical care to all equine breeds and disciplines. Dr. W. Thomas Riddle and Dr. Bill Rood founded the full-service equine hospital in 1986 and, ever since, it’s known throughout the world for its commitment to quality care and relationships with clients and the surrounding community. Its talented staff has provided full-service medical and surgical support to some of the most famous equines in the world, earning the practice the nickname of “the Mayo Clinic for horses.” Now owned by 26 shareholders, Rood & Riddle has satellite campuses in Saratoga Springs, New York, and Wellington, Florida.

Rood & Riddle is actively involved in owner education and outreach. In recognition of their connection to the Thoroughbred racing industry and the need for aftercare programs, Rood & Riddle established the RR Thoroughbred Sport Horse Awards, given annually to the top Thoroughbreds competing in dressage, eventing, hunter and jumper classes at US Equestrian Federation shows. In addition, the practice presents the Rood & Riddle Comeback Award to the equine athlete who conquers a major health complication and ultimately returns to elite competition after receiving care by the Rood & Riddle staff.

Veterinary medicine is a family tradition in the Riddle family. Riddle is the son of a veterinarian and several of his children have connections to the field. Riddle is originally from Greenville, South Carolina, and attended veterinary school at the University of Georgia. He relocated to Kentucky after graduation to intern with Dr. Dan Witherspoon at Spendthrift Farm.

Riddle has been the president of the Kentucky Association of Equine Practitioners, the Society for Theriogenology and The Theriogenology Foundation. He was awarded the Steiner Award for Excellence in the Practice of Theriogenology and is an honorary member of the American College of Theriogenologists. He currently has a busy breeding practice in central Kentucky and is the director of public relations for Rood & Riddle.

In this episode, Elise and Dr. Riddle discuss his experience as the first veterinarian to discover Mare Reproductive Loss Syndrome (MRLS), which ultimately cost the industry over $100 million and put him in an unexpected international media spotlight, but also lay the groundwork for an unprecedented collaboration between veterinarians around the globe. Dr. Riddle also shares his perspective on Rood & Riddle’s evolution from its early days to its recognition as The Mayo Clinic for Horses; offers advice to current and aspiring veterinarians; and discusses his perspective on the future of veterinary medicine and science in the next 20–30 years. Elise and Dr. Riddle also talk about his typical day, the types of cases seen in their reproductive practice (the LeBlanc Reproductive Center), and recounts some of his best memories delivering amazing news to horse owners.

Tune in to hear it all!

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s guest.

[1:05] When Dr. Tom Riddle thinks back to the very beginning of Rood & Riddle, what experiences stand out to him most?

[3:32] Dr. Riddle reflects on how remarkable it is to have far exceeded the goals he and Dr. Rood set for the practice.

[5:19] Dr. Riddle speaks about the more than 10,000 cases they see annually.

[7:35] Dr. Riddle offers advice to current veterinarians and veterinarian students aspiring to someday work at Rood & Riddle.

[12:47] Dr. Riddle speaks about the importance of collaboration and truly working as a team at Rood & Riddle.

[15:56] What is it about horses that inspires such devotion?

[18:29] Why veterinary medicine is a mix of science, art, and instinct.

[21:02] Dr. Riddle’s experiences and insights into Mare Reproductive Loss Syndrome (MRLS).

[25:14] As a veterinarian, working with the world’s finest practitioners and staff, how important is collaboration, excellent communication, and rapport?

[28:45] Dr. Riddle’s predictions for veterinary medicine breakthroughs over the next 20–30 years.

[34:20] At the heart of Rood & Riddle’s reproductive practice is the LeBlanc Reproductive Center. Dr. Riddle discusses the types of cases that are seen there and the differences between a general practice veterinarian and a theriogenologist.

[39:10] A typical day for Dr. Riddle and the aspects of being a practicing vet that mean the most to him.

[40:45] The milestones for mares that reproductive specialists look for, measure, and manage.

[46:40] Dr. Riddle recounts some of his favorite memories delivering great news to horse owners.

[47:38] What experiences from Dr. Riddle’s father’s vet practice fed his own interest in veterinarian medicine? And what is it like to share that legacy with his dad?

[50:41] As a self-described “horse nut,” one of Dr. Riddle’s favorite places is in the saddle, riding with his wife.

[52:02] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[53:23] Where to learn more about Rood & Riddle.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Rood & Riddle Equine Hospital

Dr. Tom Riddle

Dr. Bill Rood

Mayo Clinic

Mare Reproductive Loss Syndrome (MRLS)

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

The LeBlanc Reproductive Center at Rood & Riddle

“A Day with Dr. Tom Riddle” Video

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British television, radio and print journalist Brough Scott, MBE, began broadcasting nearly 50 years ago after a career as a jump jockey, ultimately becoming one of the best-known figures in British horse racing and sport. As a jockey, he rode over 100- winners including at the Imperial Cup and the Mandarin Handicap Chase. As a journalist, he has reported at major sporting events ranging from Wimbledon to the Olympic Games to the Epsom Derby.

As a journalist for the Sunday Times, Independent on Sunday and Sunday Telegraph, Brough was a three-time Sports Feature Writer of the Year. Brough is also an award-winning author and has written or edited nine books, including the biographies Churchill at the Gallop, Galloper Jack, and Henry Cecil: Trainer of Genius, which won the 2014 British Sports Book Award for “Best Horse Racing Book.”

Brough’s grandfather, General “Galloper” Jack Seely, was a legendary World War I hero who later went on to become a member of Parliament and a close friend of Winston Churchill. The life of Seely’s horse Warrior, a homebred Thoroughbred gelding, has been immortalized in the book Warrior: The Amazing Story of a Real War Horse. Seely and Warrior served together for five years in World War I, leading one of the last cavalry charges at the Battle of Moreuil Wood. They both survived the war, leading English papers to dub Warrior, “the horse the Germans could not kill.”

Topics of Discussion:

[:24] About today’s episode and featured guest.

[1:55] Brough shares the story of his grandfather and his university friend betting on an outsider in a 21-horse race in 1895 Newmarket.

[5:10] Given Brough’s family legacy and his connection to Winston Churchill, what strikes him as he reflects on the 75th anniversary of D-Day?

[8:35] What does Brough remember about his grandfather, General Jack Seely, and the stories his father told of him?

[17:17] Having known his grandfather through his family’s stories and not through his personal memories, was he surprised by anything he learned while writing his book, Galloper Jack?

[24:17] Brough speaks about Gen. Jack Seely’s legendary horse, Warrior.

[32:24] Elise and Brough discuss his remarkable grandfather’s experiences as a cavalry leader and the horses he rode in war.

[37:27] How did being a horseman enhance Brough’s understanding and appreciation of Churchill when he was writing his book, Churchill at the Gallop? And how did that help to see him in a different light than the countless others who have written about him?

[50:39] Elise and Brough speak about the profound effect that horses had on Churchill’s life.

[58:46] Brough speaks about what WinstonChurchill.org’s endorsement of his book, Churchill at the Gallop, means to him.

[1:04:09] Brough’s reminisces about his years as a jockey and highlights some of the moments that stood out to him.

[1:10:33] Elise gives a preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[1:11:35] Where to find Brough and his books online!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Brough Scott

Warrior: The Amazing Story of a Real War Horse, by General Jack Seely

Galloper Jack: The Remarkable Story of the Man Who Rode a Real War Horse, by Brough Scott

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

War Horse (Film, 2011)

War Horse, by Michael Morpurgo

Churchill at the Gallop: Winston's Life in the Saddle, by Brough Scott

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Churchill War Rooms

WinstonChurchill.org

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• Elise Gaston Chand welcomes Kristen DeMarco, an equine specialist and mental health advocate to Because of Horses podcast. Kristen is the executive director of Gateway HorseWorks and has combined a lifetime of equestrian experience with her background in psychology to help humans partner with horses in new and innovative ways. She is passionate about helping individuals, teams, families and corporate groups improve their quality of life through guided interactions with horses.

Kristen studied communication arts and psychology at Villanova University in Philadelphia before working in the fashion industry. In 2011, she became a certified equine specialist through the Equine Assisted Growth and Learning Association (EAGALA). Kristen combined her expertise in corporate communication, psychology and equine behavior to create team experiences involving horses to promote positive change within organizations. In 2012, Kristen founded WorkHorse, a company which supports the organizational needs of corporate teams, school districts and other groups, to offer this programming to a wider audience.

In the summer of 2015, she founded Gateway HorseWorks, a Philadelphia based non-profit dedicated to offering equine assisted psychotherapy (EAP) to children, adults and families. Their mission is to offer transformative EAP services to assist in the recovery from mental illness, trauma and grief. The organization seeks to be a leader in the field of education and EAP services and is committed to the wellness of the mind, body and spirit of its clients as well as environmental sustainability.

Gateway HorseWorks values the promotion of self-discovery, growth and learning by establishing an environment based on integrity, trust, teamwork and communication. Under Kristen’s direction, the organization strives to be a leader in the field of EAP and is partnering with West Chester University to conduct cutting-edge research related to its use.

Topics of Discussion:

[:25] About today’s episode.

[1:05] Kristen explains how, in her work, horses become metaphors for exploring relationships and what you face outside of the arena.

[2:40] How Kristen found inspiration in a small pony she was rehabbing after her marriage ended in divorce.

[6:16] Kristen speaks about her other organization, WorkHorse, and explains how horses factor into helping corporate teams build their interpersonal, leadership, and disruptive innovation skillsets.

[8:16] Is it a benefit or a detriment for team members who are already familiar with horses to participate in the team-building exercises that WorkHorse provides?

[11:53] Kristen highlights some of the outcomes she has observed in her Equine Assisted Psychotherapy (EAP) approach through her nonprofit, Gateway Horseworks.

[16:26] The differences between traditional therapy and EAP.

[22:02] Kristen speaks about their community program, Stable Pathways, a trauma-informed equine-assisted psychotherapy pilot program specifically designed for women in the Chester County Women’s Reentry Assessment & Programming Initiative (WRAP) to address anxiety, depression, and hopelessness.

[32:55] What kinds of horses does Kristen have in her programs? What are their personalities like?

[38:52] The diverse range of jobs horses can fill, far beyond riding.

[42:18] The science of being around horses and how it has a profound impact on humans!

[44:51] About Kristen’s passion for educating the mental health community about EAP with a particular focus on underserved populations, and the kinds of responses she garners with her work.

[47:20] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[49:14] Kristen’s thoughts on keeping the conversation going about EAP and mental health.

[52:57] Where to learn more and follow Kristen online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Gateway HorseWorks

EAGALA

WorkHorse

Stable Pathways (Community Program on Gateway HorseWorks)

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Gateway HorseWorks’ Instagram

Gateway HorseWorks’ Facebook

Gateway HorseWorks’ Twitter

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Today’s guest is Olympic gold medalist, Peter Wylde, who is indisputably among the world’s most talented and successful competitive equestrians.

At the age of 17, Peter earned the United States’ highest junior honor when he won the Rolex-Maclay National Equitation Championship at the National Horse Show in Madison Square Garden. From this stellar early achievement, Peter went on to win some of the most prestigious titles in the world of show jumping — including the President’s Cup at the Washington International Horse Show, the $100K Rolex USET Show Jumping Championship, and he won the Hampton Classic three times. Peter has also won both the team and individual silver medals at the World Cup and the Pan American Games, and was named the U.S. Olympic Committees’ Male Equestrian of the Year. In 2002, Peter represented the U.S. at the World Equestrian Games (WEG), winning an individual bronze medal — while his horse, Fein Cera, earned the coveted Best Horse honor. And, in 2004, the pair won Team Gold at the Olympics in Athens.

In addition to countless Leading Rider Awards from some of the world’s top horse shows, Peter is the Head Clinician and Vice President of The United States Hunter Jumper Association’s Emerging Athletes Program (EAP), which seeks to identify and cultivate aspiring young equestrian talent.

But out of all of Peter’s incredible accomplishments, he sees being a consummate caretaker of horses as his finest accolade. This essential priority is his foundational life principle and it has guided him from his first rides on a pony as a youngster at home in Medfield, Massachusetts, to the upper echelon of show-jumping success.

Topics of Discussion:

[:26] About today’s episode.

[2:13] Why coaching young riders is important to him and his observations on the qualities needed to have a career in competitive riding.

[8:18] Peter shares some of his favorite experiences from working with students in the Emerging Athletes Program, as well as why he thinks the EAP serves a very important purpose.

[15:45] What does it mean for Peter to have such a profound influence and impact on the EAP riders?

[19:45] How Peter focused on achieving his own personal best, rather than focusing on his competition as a measurement for success.

[24:27] Pivotal moments in Peter’s career and how they influenced his life.

[27:40] Peter’s experience at the WEG and how he mentally prepares before he enters the ring, ready to compete against the world’s most talented riders and horses.

[33:25] How Peter helps coach students to build mental fortitude and prepare them for the stress of competition.

[38:43] To be truly successful, the horse and rider must become as close to “one” as possible. But how does that happen? And what is it like when you achieve this connection?

[42:00] Why riding is more than just technical skill.

[46:34] Peter’s perspective on equestrians aging out of riding and his thoughts on the future of the sport.

[53:29] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[55:30] Where to learn more about Peter, his upcoming clinics, his training, and the EAP.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Peter Wylde

The United States Hunter Jumper Association (USHJA)

USHJA’s Emerging Athletes Program (EAP)

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Meredith and Shutterfly

Hugo Simon and E.T.

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Peter Wylde’s Instagram: @PWyldeNY

Kelli Cruciotti

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This week’s guest is Yulia Frolova, a self-proclaimed – and literal – globe trotter. Yulia is the blogger behind the popular EquiGeo, a travel blog documenting her goal to ride a horse in every country around the globe. Her count so far? 45… and counting! And with 197 recognized countries (or independent states), Yulia has already made a great dent in her goal! Whether it’s in the desert, the deepest snow, or on her way to an audience with the Pope, Yulia is most in her element when she’s traveling the world… and seeing it from the back of a horse.

Most equestrians would see a job that requires international travel (as much as 25 times a year!) as a challenge to riding, but she has turned it into a fun adventure and a wildly popular blog. In this episode, Yulia speaks about how she set this goal for herself; how she balances riding, blogging, family, and work; some of her favorite memories from riding and trying different disciplines in their countries of origin; as well as some of the challenges she has faced while traveling. Yulia also recounts many of the fun memories from her travels, the people and horses she has met along the way, and the remarkable stories that have come from it all. You won’t want to miss this week’s episode of Because of Horses with Yulia Frolova, the globe trotter!

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:07] How did Yulia set the goal of riding in every country around the globe?

[2:30] What is Yulia’s job? And how does she balance it with riding, blogging, and family?

[3:54] What led Yulia to blogging and sharing her journey?

[6:26] Yulia reminisces about some of her favorite – and most unusual – adventures.

[10:40] Why Yulia began focusing on her riding after moving to Dubai.

[12:32] Yulia speaks about a special connection she had with a stallion named Romeo.

[14:04] The fun of trying disciplines in their countries of origin.

[18:31] Some of Yulia's favorite experiences.

[22:11] When Yulia is setting up her itinerary, how does she find places to ride... especially in countries like Iraq and – surprisingly – Germany?

[24:05] Is there anything that would keep Yulia from riding?

[25:16] Are there any similarities or universal characteristics in the horse people Yulia has met?

[29:29] What are some of the challenges Yulia has faced when traveling?

[33:07] Yulia speaks about one of the most difficult countries to find a place to ride: Germany.

[34:34] How many languages does Yulia speak? And how does she navigate countries considering the language barriers?

[36:05] Do horse people have a connection that transcends language?

[37:51] Elise shares a remarkable story from her travels.

[40:10] One of Yulia’s most memorable moments – in war-torn Iraq.

[43:21] What is it like for Yulia to share her adventures with her favorite travel companion, her husband (who happens to not be a horse person)? And what does he think of her goal to ride in every country?

[45:22] What is like for Yulia to share her love of horses with her young daughter? Does her daughter share her same passion?

[47:44] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[48:46] Yulia’s principles for traveling internationally on horseback.

[51:57] Yulia’s favorite riding gear that she will not leave home without!

[52:28] Where is Yulia headed next? And what other places are high up on her list?

[55:27] Yulia gives advice for travelers interested in riding away from home.

[57:37] Where to find Yulia online to follow her adventures!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

EquiGeo Blog

@Equi_Geo on Instagram

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

Life Between the Ears | Kristine Dahms

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For over 35 years, veteran equestrian journalist, photographer and public relations maven Diana De Rosa has covered equestrian sport around the world, including the past eight Olympic Games, all eight World Equestrian Games, several Pan Am Games and FEI World Cups. Diana enjoys creating richly told stories through photography and writing and has over 1,000 published credits to her name.

Diana is the owner of Press Link, a public relations firm based in Farmingdale, New York. Her past and present clients include the Hampton Classic, National and Washington International Horse Shows, USA Equestrian Trust, Healthy Horse Boutique, Running Wild, Dream Works, the American Hunter Jumper Foundation and Twentieth Century Fox. Diana worked with the late actor Christopher Reeve for eight years before his death in 2004.

A past president of American Horse Publications, Diana is also a longtime member of the International Alliance of Equestrian Journalists. She currently is on the executive board of the Press Club of Long Island. Diana’s work has taken her to 30 countries and has even led to a stint in front of the camera when she co-hosted the annual Hampton Classic Horse Show for local TV station WVVH. She was presented with the 2005 US Equestrian Federation Media Award for Photography in recognition of a photo of show jumper Peter Wylde and Fein Cera competing at the 2004 Athens Olympics. Diana dedicated her win to Reeve.

Diana is the co-organizer of the EQUUS Film Festival, held annually in New York City with tour stops around the United States. Notable recent tour appearances by the Festival included the 2017 World Cup in Omaha, Nebraska, and the 2018 World Equestrian Games in Tryon, North Carolina.

Diana is a former riding school manager and a graduate of SUNY Albany, where she studied languages.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:01] How the insights Diana gained from training horses and competing both nationally and internationally have impacted her coverage of some of the horse world’s most prestigious events.

[6:05] Diana shares the critical aspects of capturing an amazing photo.

[11:10] What originally led Diana to connect the dots and combine her interests in writing and photography with horses and riding?

[13:47] As an equestrian and someone who has loved horses all of her life, what has it been like for Diana to cover the highest levels of equestrian sports and interact with the world’s finest equestrians?

[15:53] Has Diana had any star-struck moments?

[18:27] When did Diana begin engaging in the PR side? And what has it been like to represent such renowned and respected clients?

[23:28] What was it like to work with Christopher Reeves? And how did she originally come to work with him?

[33:16] How knowing Christopher Reeves has guided Diana’s life and the decisions she has subsequently made.

[36:46] Diana offers advice for those who have dreams or things they are passionate and are trying to make a decision about whether or not to follow them.

[40:08] Is there anything Diana has yet to try professionally but would like to give a go?

[40:55] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[41:45] Where to find Diana online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Hampton Classic

American Horse Publications

World Equestrian Games

Pan American Games

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

National Horse Show
Washington International Horse Show

Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (Film, 2002)

Dreamer: Inspired by a True Story (Film, 2005)

Flicka (Film, 2006)

The United States Hunter Jumper Association

EQUUS Film Festival

Christopher & Dana Reeves Foundation

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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DianaDeRosa.com

DianaDeRosa.net

Diana’s Email: dderosa1@optonline.net

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In 2006, Susan Conley was 42 years old and married to an addict whose well-being she valued above her own. Though she had never longed for a pony or studied horses before, one day she suddenly, inexplicably, felt drawn to find a barn so she could ride. In her new memoir, Many Brave Fools, Susan explores topics including addiction, dysfunction and codependent relationships—and shares the story of how horses helped her to navigate the aftermath of her unhealthy marriage and subsequent loss of identity.

Susan quickly learned that riding was both harder and easier than anything she had done before. Though Susan had read countless self-help books and completed 12 step programs, she realized that the time she spent at the barn had transformed her the most. More than just evolving from a green rider to one capable of tackling the competitive arena, Susan recognized that horses had also triggered a change in her mind, body and spirit. Riding and interacting with horses helped Susan to rediscover herself, eventually emerging as a self-confident woman ready to embark on the next phase of life.

Susan holds a master of philosophy degree in Irish theatre studies from Samuel Beckett Centre, Trinity College, an honors degree in psychology and a diploma in equine-assisted therapy and learning. She is the author of Drama Queen, The Fidelity Project, and the soon to be re-released The Magic Mischief. Susan is based in Dublin, Ireland, where she is currently at work on her next horse book and a new paranormal/historical romance series.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:13] Susan’s first experience riding horses... in her 40s.

[2:22] What it felt like first going into a lesson barn later in life.

[6:34] Susan’s epiphany of how to write her memoir, Many Brave Fools.

[11:13] The therapeutic impact horses can have on a person and how Susan came to realize this.

[13:40] How Susan chose her book’s title, Many Brave Fools.

[16:58] Susan distinguishes the difference between a bad relationship vs. a codependent one.

[18:52] How being in a toxic relationship affected Susan.

[22:05] Susan speaks about the paradigm shift that occurred when she put herself into the world of horses and horse-people, which she knew absolutely nothing about.

[24:45] The correlations between human relationships and horse relationships, and how they have affected her riding.

[27:41] How Susan drew the funny connection between the quantity of excrement in her life and in the barn!

[31:36] The great metaphor for life Susan learned through horses.

[35:23] The importance of riding in circles — and why Susan decided to open her book by exploring this topic.

[38:35] Susan’s ideas about compromise vs. expectation, both while riding and in human relationships.

[41:18] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[42:50] To what degree does Susan find herself accepting limits in other people the way she accepts them in the horse she has been riding?

[47:16] Insights Susan has gleaned over the years that could prove helpful to others in their own lives — personally or in the barn!

[50:42] How Susan’s equine evolution parallels her internal evolution.

[55:28] Susan shares a bit of information on her new horse series!

[56:17] Where to learn more about Susan’s books and follow her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Many Brave Fools: A Story of Addiction, Dysfunction, Codependency...and Horses, by Susan Conley

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Al-Anon

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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ManyBraveFools.com

@ManyBraveFools on Instagram

@ManyBraveFools on Twitter

Many Brave Fools on HorseandRiderBooks.com

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Equestrians often say that horses take them on amazing journeys in life — and that’s no exception for movie trainer, Cari Swanson — Elise’s guest today on Because of Horses.

Cari has provided horse talent and training for dozens of top films and television shows including Helen of Troy, Night of the Museum, Yellowstone, Taking Woodstock, and Arthur, as well as Orange Is the New Black, Person of Interest, The Knick, and Snowman. One of Elise’s personal favorites is Winter’s Tale, much of which was filmed on location in New York City and stars Russell Crowe, Will Smith, and Colin Farrell. For Elise, however, the real star of this movie is Novelisto (AKA Listo) — her former Andalusian stallion and the equine love of her life!

Cari has also provided and trained horses for photo shoots for the likes of Ralph Lauren, Tory Sport, Kate Spade, Harper’s Bazaar, British Vogue, Allure magazine, among many others. Chances are, when you see horses in a movie, on TV, a music video, or in a fashion shoot… Cari is behind the scenes, training and working with them.

From her base at Windrock Farm in Amenia, New York, Cari breeds, trains, and sells horses for dressage, jumping, eventing, and trail riding, and offers instruction to riders at all levels. Cari is known for her positive and creative teaching and training philosophies, the result of the study of multiple disciplines. She is a U.S. Dressage Federation silver medalist, an “L” program graduate, and eventing competitor through the preliminary level.

Join Elise and Cari today for this amazing edition of Because of Horses! You will hear all about Cari’s experiences working on set with famous actors (and horses!), how she trains both the actors and the horses, the qualities that make a horse especially suitable for working in front of a camera, everything that she loves about her job, and some of the funny stories from behind-the-scenes!

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:46] How did Cari translate her formal training with horses into a career in film? And how did she meet Listo (Elise’s former stallion)?

[9:19] How Cari manages a shoot with a horse and helps them get camera-ready.

[13:21] What makes a particular horse suitable for working on camera?

[16:48] Cari walks us through what shooting a scene is like.

[24:14] The role that trust plays in Cari’s relationship with horses, especially on set.

[25:44] The importance of the relationship between a person and their horse.

[27:00] Why fear plays no role in teaching horses and how kindness is essential.

[33:06] How Cari trains actors – some of whom have never been near a horse – so they appear as if riding comes second nature.

[37:02] Cari shares the funny story of training a nude model, holding a hawk, while riding a horse!

[40:36] Cari’s experience working on a movie behind the scenes vs. seeing the final product.

[48:51] Has Cari had any fangirl moments with an actor, actress… or a horse?

[54:18] What does Cari love about her job?

[55:02] About Cari’s accident seven years ago with a horse.

[59:13] About Cari’s work outside of the entertainment industry!

[1:02:05] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[1:03:12] Where to learn more about Cari and her work online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Winter’s Tale (Film, 2014)

Cari Swanson’s Movie and TV Credits

USDF

FEI

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

Novelisto

Whoa Means Whoa!, by Cari Swanson

GGTFooting.com/BOHP

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Cari’s Instagram: @CariSwanson17

Cari’s Facebook: @SwansonProductions

CariSwanson.com

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Today, Elise is welcoming Kim Weir, the Director of Major Gifts and Planned Giving for the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation.

Founded in 1983, the TRF is the oldest and largest equine sanctuary of its kind in the world! Its mission to save Thoroughbred horses no longer able to compete on the racetrack from possible neglect, abuse, and slaughter. The sad truth is that over 10,000 American racehorses each year are shipped to slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico. It is this reality that the TRF is determined to change.

In this episode, Kim speaks about some of the amazing work that the TRF is doing for retired Thoroughbreds, gives her perspective about what it is like to work with these horses every day and be a part of an amazing community, and why you should consider an off-the-track Thoroughbred to adopt in the future. She also speaks about the TRF’s incredible program for inmates called the Second Chances Program. She explains how it helps both the horses and the prisoners, how the inmates get selected for the program, and the profound impact it has on all those participating.

The work Kim and TRF do is absolutely amazing. You won’t want to miss this week’s episode detailing all that they do for retired Thoroughbreds!

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[:53] Kim elaborates on the sad truth that happens to many Thoroughbred horses born and raised to race after they can no longer run — or, are simply not fast enough.

[3:20] Kim gives some insight into what the Thoroughbred racehorse industry is like and what happens to horses after their racing career ends.

[7:07] TRF’s history and their first retiree, Promised Road, and how he helped pave the way.

[11:24] About EquestFile, the awesome software program that helps you track all your important horse and barn details!

[12:11] Some of the practices that TRF employs to ensure the horses’ lifelong wellbeing.

[17:11] About TRF’s continued involvement with people who adopt their horses.

[21:57] What it is like for Kim to be a part of such a large and passionate community all working on behalf of these horses?

[24:38] What Kim wants the world to know about off-the-track Thoroughbreds.

[29:07] Why you should consider an off-the-track Thoroughbred: there is, literally, a horse for every need.

[31:19] More than just helping horses: TRF’s Second Chances Program for inmates.

[36:46] The profound effect TRF’s Second Chances Program has had on participating inmates.

[41:04] How do inmates get selected for the program?

[43:52] The parallels between the horses and the prisoners.

[47:56] About the beautiful relationship between the horses and the men in the TRF Second Chances program.

[56:58] How to adopt a horse from TRF!

[1:01:05] Why adopting a horse from TRF may be perfect for you.

[1:04:38] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[1:06:12] Where to learn more about TRF, what Kim is up to, and all the ways to get involved.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation

TRF’s Facebook Page

The Kentucky Derby

The Triple Crown

The Preakness

The Belmont

Penny Chenery

Secretariat

Monique S. Koehler

EquestFile (Use coupon code: BOH10 to receive a 10% discount for two months off your subscription)

TRF Second Chances Program

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Equestrian event promoter, manager and coordinator Matt Morrissey is the vice president of operations for Morrissey Management Group of Bradenton, Florida, one of the oldest and most successful horse show management companies in the world. For nearly 50 years, members of the Morrissey family have facilitated the production of national and international show jumping events up and down the East Coast and are responsible for managing some of the most significant equestrian competitions in the country.

Some of Morrissey Management Group’s best-known high-caliber events include the American Invitational, the American Gold Cup, the Great Lakes Equestrian Festival, the Lake Placid Horse Show and the Palm Beach Masters.

Matt is a third-generation horse show promoter, following in the footsteps of his father Michael Morrissey and his uncle, the legendary Gene Mische. Matt has held a leadership role in every major horse show managed by the company, including the Winter Equestrian Festival and the National Horse Show. He also played a critical role in the successful relocation of the American Gold Cup to Old Salem Farm in New York and the move of the American Invitational from Tampa to the east coast of Florida.

Morrissey Management Group is a full-service equestrian event production company, providing everything needed to facilitate a horse show from the ground up. The company takes pride in “getting it right the first time,” whether the event is a one-day or a six-week festival.

Matt and his wife Tiffany are the owners and operators of East Wind Farms in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where they produce horses and riders at all levels for the hunter, equitation and jumper arenas.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[:59] In March 2019, MMG and the National Equestrian League announced their new collaborative venture to bring an exciting, new, FEI approved, competition format to show jumping in North America. What will this new league encompass and why is it so significant for the sport? And what kind of feedback have they gotten about the event so far?

[3:38] What goes into producing and planning equestrian events?

[5:55] How does Matt manage to make each of the massive equestrian events he plans individually unique and special?

[10:38] Matt’s favorite location for event planning and some of the aspects he has to balance from a production standpoint when working there.

[12:20] Matt explains other factors that come into play when considering an event’s logistics, what competitors and spectators are looking for, and what sponsors are interested in.

[17:05] What is it like for Matt to produce events that draw competitors like McLain Ward, Beezie Madden, and Kent Farrington?

[18:32] Matt shares some fun stories.

[19:37] What does Matt’s family equestrian legacy mean to him and how does it guide him?

[21:47] How horse shows and events have evolved and what the future holds.

[23:27] Next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[24:51] What about putting on events appeals to Matt?

[26:50] When was the last time Matt rode?

[27:28] Elise and Matt discuss some of the many different ways to be involved in the horse world.

[28:45] Where to learn more about the upcoming events Matt is planning.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Morrissey Management Group (MMG)

American Gold Cup

Old Salem Farm Spring Horse Shows
Great Lakes Equestrian Festival

National Horse Show

Lake Placid Horse Shows

Palm Beach Masters

MMG and the National Equestrian League’s New Competition Format

National Equestrian League

East Wind Farms
Traverse City

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McLain Ward

Beezie Madden

Kent Farrington

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This week, Robert Dover is joining the podcast! Robert is a six-time Olympian, four-time Olympic medalist, five-time U.S. National Grand Prix Champion, and former Technical Advisor and Chef d’Equipe of the U.S. Dressage Team.

Robert competed in every Olympic summer games between 1984-2004 — an American dressage record. He won four team bronze medals as well as a team bronze in the 1994 World Equestrian Games. He has also been the top U.S. trainer and instructor of international horses and riders for many years and is an inductee into the U.S. Dressage Federation Hall of Fame.

Robert began riding at the age of 13 when his parents gave him a horse for his Bar Mitzvah. At age 19, he focused on dressage and has been involved in the sport for about three decades now — winning more dressage honors than any other U.S. rider. USDF itself says that dressage in the U.S. would not be the same without Robert’s talent, influence, creativity, and generosity.

Nowadays, he spends most of his time working with his team and husband, Robert Ross, on their company, Robert-Squared — a 100% luxury vegan leather tack and apparel company.

In this episode, Robert speaks all about his experiences in dressage, the new company Robert-Squared, his views on musical freestyle and what he thinks it should ultimately accomplish, some of the characteristics of top riders (and horses) in dressage, how his failures in his career have played a key role in his successes, and the most important aspects riders should consider when it comes to dressage.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode with Robert Dover.

[1:33] Robert’s thoughts about the evolution of dressage in the U.S. and what he sees for the future of the sport.

[3:05] Why the USEF/USDF Emerging Athlete Program (for youth) is so important to the future of dressage.

[12:11] Robert provides a sneak peek into the organizational work required to keep dressage viable as a sport.

[19:06] Characteristics in the top riders and horses in dressage. And in his own career, how Robert’s failures have played a role in his success.

[26:10] How to build mental fortitude.

[30:40] How Robert views musical freestyle and what he thinks it ultimately should accomplish.

[37:20] Robert’s personal connection with musical freestyle.

[43:22] The three things you absolutely need to “own” in dressage. And the major differences between rhythm and tempo.

[48:29] Robert’s thoughts on safety equipment and riding.

[52:48] Talking Robert-Squared — Robert’s ethically elegant equestrian ware!

[55:26] Next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[56:11] More about Robert-Squared: their 100% vegan leather ware, their launch, origin, team, goals, and more!

[1:08:33] Where to learn more about Robert Dover and Robert-Squared online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Robert Dover

U.S. Dressage Team

U.S. Dressage Federation Hall of Fame Inductees

USDF

USEF

USEF/USDF Emerging Athlete Program

Because of Horses’ episode with Charlotte Bredahl

Shelly Francis’ Musical Freestyle (Video)

Robert Dover’s Musical Freestyle to Whitney Houston’s “One Moment in Time” (Video)

Robert-Squared

Robert-Squared on Instagram

Robert-Squared on Facebook

Dover’s World Facebook Page

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Elise’s guest this week, on the Because of Horses podcast is Charlie Muldoon.

Both on and off the field, few people in the U.S. have been as influential to the game of polo as Charlie Muldoon. As the youngest member of the Muldoons, one of polo’s most iconic families and the first family to win a national tournament together in the U.S., Charlie began his pro career at age 18. He quickly rose to prominence and even captained the U.S. Polo team on numerous occasions as a high-goal polo player. He has competed at the highest levels with standout performances at the U.S. Polo Open, the FIP World Polo Championship, the Geneva Open, and the East Coast Open.

Currently, Charlie is the Executive Director of the U.S. Polo Association Umpires, LLC., where he presides over the official rules in tournaments worldwide, while also serving as Governor at Large of the U.S. Polo Association.

For non-players, polo is an incredibly exciting sport to both participate in and watch. And, interestingly enough, it is the oldest team sport known to man!

In this week’s episode, Charlie and Elise talk all things polo — from the Muldoon’s legacy and Charlie’s love for polo (and horses!) to some of the more technical aspects of polo, as well as some funny stories on and off the field. Join Charlie and Elise to get your fill of all things polo and horses!

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode with Charlie Muldoon.

[1:41] Charlie describes the game of polo for those who may not be familiar.

[2:42] What is it that hooks amateurs into giving a polo a try, then ultimately, sticking with it?

[5:45] Elise’s experience with polo and the polo community.

[7:38] Why the polo community is so welcoming and friendly.

[11:22] Talking fun polo traditions and camaraderie!

[12:35] Elise tells a funny story of her brother coming to watch her play polo.

[13:32] Charlie mentions some surprising things about polo.

[15:05] Charlie goes over some of the technical rules and gameplay of polo.

[21:04] Is it common to be able to rent polo ponies for amateurs to give it a try?

[23:48] Professional polo players often keep a string of polo ponies. Charlie explains what’s entailed with keeping so many horses fit, happy, and sound.

[28:12] The qualities that make for a fantastic polo player.

[30:31] Some of the celebrities and royalty Charlie has ridden with (or played against).

[33:48] Charlie speaks about his family’s legacy around polo and what it means to him.

[37:37] What strikes Charlie the most about his family’s philanthropic nature and the paths they have opened for others through their love for polo?

[39:52] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[41:45] About Charlie’s business, Summerhill Polo, and what he hopes to accomplish through it.

[44:07] Online resources Charlie recommends listeners check out to learn more about polo.

[45:45] Elise closes out this week’s episode.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

U.S. Polo Association Umpires (USPolo.org)

Summerhill Polo (owned and directed by Charlie Muldoon)

More about the Muldoon family

Tommy Lee Jones

Sylvester Stallone

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Robert-Squared

Many Hats Institute

Prince Harry

Prince William

Prince Charles

Nacho Figueras

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Elise's guest on this episode is Mollie Bailey, senior reporter at The Chronicle of the Horse, and the author of “#MeToo: The Story of A Trainer, A Trophy and An All-Too-Common Betrayal.” The article, which ran one year ago, continues to rattle the horse industry as abuse survivors from across the country share their stories.

Mollie’s investigative reporting connected the #MeToo movement in the broader community to the world of equestrian sport. Through her tactful interviews and powerful writing, Mollie helped to give voice to women who for decades had held their stories close to their hearts. She kept the needs and stories of the women at the forefront while maintaining the highest standards of journalistic integrity.

For 28 years, the US Equestrian Federation presented a silver cowboy hat called the Jimmy A. Williams Trophy to the winner of its lifetime achievement award. Williams, who died in 1993, was a prominent horseman based at the Flintridge Riding Club in Southern California. But in 2017, the organization quietly removed Williams’ name from the trophy. Mollie heard rumors connecting Williams to possible sexual misconduct, and she began to investigate.

Williams worked with as many as 37 future top professional riders during his career. Among these riders were U.S. Olympian Anne Kursinksi and US Equestrian Federation chef d’ équipe DiAnn Langer, both of whom accused Williams of inappropriate sexual behavior and agreed to tell their stories to Mollie.

Mollie’s article received widespread acclaim both in and out of the equine industry. It inspired stories and was referenced in both The New York Times and the online newsletter Deadspin.

“#MeToo: The Story of A Trainer, A Trophy and An All-Too-Common Betrayal” prompted countless other women to come forward to share their own stories of sexual assault and misconduct. It helped to initiate necessary dialogue around a difficult subject that for too long has remained hidden within the industry.

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U.S. Olympian, dressage coach and youth mentor Charlotte Bredahl is Elise’s guest on this episode of Because of Horses Podcast.

Originally from Denmark, Bredahl moved to California at the age of 20 with little more than a suitcase and the dream of becoming an elite equestrian. Known for her compassion, work ethic and commitment to personal growth, Bredahl quickly rose to the Grand Prix level. She competed 42 horses over 37 years, many of whom she developed herself.

Bredahl is perhaps best known for her breathtaking performances on the quirky and sensitive Monsieur, her partner on the bronze medal winning team for the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona. She returned to the international spotlight in 1997, riding Lugano to the silver medal in the North American Championships. Bredahl trained both horses from start to the Grand Prix level. For Bredahl, riding and training has never been about winning ribbons. She loves the process of developing horses and has turned her focus almost exclusively to coaching and training others.

In 2018, Bredahl was appointed the US Equestrian Federation (USEF) Dressage Development Coach, which will allow her to help athletes to reach elite performance goals. Previously, she worked as the USEF Assistant Youth Coach and from 2009-2011, was the featured clinician for the US Dressage Federation (USDF) Adult Clinic Series, teaching riders in each of the country’s nine regions. She was presented the USDF Gold Medal of Distinction and named a USDF Honorary Instructor.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:15] Charlotte explains how her interest in horses began and some of her early experiences.

[9:37] Elise and Charlotte discuss her astounding determination at a young age to ride horses.

[11:41] Did Charlotte ever envision the Olympics for herself as a young girl, riding plow horses? Charlotte tells the story of her journey to becoming an Olympian (including the horse she trained to Grand Prix, training with Hilda Gurney, and more)!

[25:25] Charlotte speaks about the horses in her life and how they have guided her, personally and professionally.

[27:47] What is it about warmblood horses that makes them so well-suited to dressage?

[28:57] What is the trick to mastering the sitting trot with a warmblood horse?

[31:45] What differentiates dressage from other disciplines?

[32:28] Charlotte’s approach to training and why it’s so important for horses to be allowed to be horses.

[41:50] Charlotte continues the story of her journey to the Olympics with one of her horses-of-a-lifetime.

[44:19] Does Charlotte agree with the sentiment that many top horses are not easy horses?

[44:57] How did Charlotte get into reining? What about it appeals to her?

[51:31] The difference between a horse person and an equestrian.

[54:00] Charlotte shares her love for coaching and what it is like to see that lightbulb moment in those she trains.

[57:07] Next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[58:10] What impact does Charlotte hope to have on dressage and what legacy would she like to someday leave?

[1:00:22] Where to find Charlotte online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Walter Farley

Hilda Gurney

Platinum Performance

Because of Horses episode 69: “Sandy Collier: Blazing Paths and Cutting Cattle”

DreamHorse.com

Charlotte Bredahl’s Facebook

Charlotte’s Bredahl’s Website

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For veterans who are working to transition from active-duty to civilian life, War Horses for Veterans has become one of the premier programs for horsemanship, networking and personal growth.

Founded in 2014, War Horses for Veterans is the brainchild of Patrick Benson, an equestrian and Army combat infantryman who served in Iraq from 1998-2004. Patrick recognized the unique challenges faced by veterans, who struggle with depression or PTSD following their service. He knew how beneficial horses had been to his own healing process. Patrick worked with co-founders Andy and Patricia Brown to create the organization, based at their Stilwell, Kansas, property.

War Horses for Veterans offers three-day programs during which groups of five to six veterans learn the basics of horsemanship and work to create a network of support. Led by veterans, participants have a safe and peaceful environment in which they can begin to define what they need to learn, change to meet their goals. The program provides an alternative to conventional therapy or medication.

War Horses for Veterans expanded its offerings in 2018 and launched a program for spouses. Through a VFW Foundation Grant, War Horses for Veterans has been training volunteers for its Mentorship Leadership Development Program. In addition, the Browns have established an endowment to support the work of the organization into the future.

War Horses for Veterans is supported entirely by donations and grants. Veterans do not pay to participate and can return as many times as they wish so long as they bring another veteran. The program also covers airline tickets, lodging and meals. Veterans need not have previous horse experience to participate.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s episode.

[1:44] What led to War Horses’ creation and how it has evolved since its conception.

[4:24] How working with horses proves to be incredibly healing for combat veterans with PTSD.

[8:12] Patrick tells the story about the horse that changed his life.

[16:03] The aspects that make War Horses so significant in the lives of participants.

[23:18] Statistics that prove the positive effects of equine therapy for combat veterans.

[23:46] What it is like for Patrick to witness the evolution in the War Horses’ participants from the moment they first walk in, to the time they leave the program. He also talks about the beautiful connections he has made with the horses, himself.

[27:07] Patrick talks about his experience in working with the horses and the process of building emotional memory through reinforced, continued interaction.

[32:18] Patrick explains another fantastic program War Horses for Veterans offers: a program for spouses.

[36:36] Patrick talks about the horses and describes some of the participants’ favorites.

[42:11] Another fantastic part about War Horses: the participants do not need any previous horse experience.

[45:22] What the recognition Patrick has experienced from War Horses means to him.

[47:30] Patrick shares the story of the recent gift he received in recognition for his work with War Horses.

[50:03] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[51:16] A story that particularly stands out for Patrick.

[53:52] Where to learn more about War Horses for Veterans.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

War Horses for Veterans

National Institutes of Health (NIH)

NIH Studies on equine therapy for veterans

Contact: Info@WarHorsesforVeterans.com and Patrick@WarHorsesforVeterans.com

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Glenys Cox, equestrian coach, educator and “trainer of trainers,” hosts the popular Horse Chats podcast and is the director of Online Horse College, which offers education and opportunities to equestrians across all facets of the industry. She believes that through better education of professionals, horses around the world will lead better lives.

Glenys is a former international three-day event and dressage competitor based in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. She merges 40 years as a horse person with her advanced graduate study and extensive experience in the field of education. She creates programming and content designed to improve the lives of horses through the increased knowledge of those who care for them. Her specialty is preparing and training students to work within the industry.

The Horse Chats podcast first aired in 2017. It features guests who are established industry experts alongside those whose stars are still on the rise. Glenys’ mission is educating owners, riders and trainers on best management practices and training techniques. Horse Chats listeners have a love and passion for horses, the equine industry and a desire to improve their skills and expand their knowledge.

Under Glenys’s direction, Online Horse College offers courses that combine both practical and theoretical components on topics across the industry. Glenys believes in a hands-on approach to learning and stays in contact with each student. Online Horse College’s programs are internationally recognized for excellence.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s guest.

[:50] Glenys describes how she helps equestrians prepare for careers.

[2:00] What is more important as an equestrian pursuing a career: education or experience?

[4:48] Glenys’s thoughts on how to improve the welfare of the horse through education.

[8:37] How the safety of people around (or with) horses can be improved through education.

[11:48] What Glenys’s horse journey was like.

[14:08] If Glenys had the perfect play map in terms of guiding an individual to how learn to ride — what would that look like?

[15:50] Some of the other important factors after identifying a great riding school with great instructors.

[16:22] How successful are online programs in terms of educating people about horses?

[19:56] Elise shares a great personal experience at the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame and Museum.

[23:44] How has the style of education around horses changed?

[26:05] How education within the horse industry is evolving.

[28:14] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[29:28] About Glenys’s mission and how she expresses it through her work.

[32:50] Where to follow Glenys online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Online Horse College

Horse Chats, with Glenys Cox

Cowgirl Hall of Fame and Museum

Because of Horses Stacy Westfall Episode

Because of Horses Alan Day Episode

Because of Horses James Clement Episode

The Mustang (Film, 2019)

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Glenys Cox’s email: Glenys@OnlineHorseCollege.com

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Elise’s guests this week are all from Wyoming’s Red Reflet Ranch — co-owner, Bob Kaplan; and Horse Operations Team, Clay and Tammy Trollinger.

Red Reflet Ranch is both a working cattle ranch as well as an all-inclusive luxury resort that expands across 27,000 privately-owned acres nestled under the shadow of the Big Horn Mountains. The ranch is renowned for its five-star amenities, fine dining, and diverse outdoor activities (that, of course, include horseback riding).

Owned by Bob and Laurence Kaplan (who are both pilots, world travelers, and philanthropists), the Red Reflet Ranch operates year ’round with something to offer everyone — no matter how diverse your interests or how discriminating your tastes.

In this week’s episode, Elise talks with Bob, Clay, and Tammy to get an inside look into the luxury ranch. They talk about the many activities offered there, the wonderful amenities, accommodations, experiences, and more. They also discuss the ranch’s evolution, history, and what they hope each guest takes away from their experience at the ranch.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s guests.

[1:04] What inspired Bob and Laurence to operate the ranch as a luxury resort, on top of it already being a 24/7 working cattle ranch.

[3:16] About Bob’s big city roots in Chicago.

[4:30] Bob talks about the ranching community of Ten Sleep, Wyoming, how it is a true example of the western lifestyle, as well as an area full of history — including how it got its name.

[7:13] Activities guests can choose from activity-wise at the Red Reflet Ranch.

[10:37] About the Red Reflet’s landing strip for private aircraft and the options that exist for pilots.

[12:03] Tammy and Clay describe the wide range of activities for the horse-lovers.

[13:16] How Tammy and Clay balance an individual’s belief in their own horse-riding abilities with the reality of pairing them with the best horse.

[16:41] About their accommodations for horse-riders at any level.

[19:24] For someone interested in a full-on cowboy experience, what time of the year would be the best to visit? And what could that person look forward to?

[21:35] What sets the ranch apart from other luxury destinations.

[24:13] Rare animal sightings on the ranch!

[25:35] Bob talks about Red Reflet’s amazing cuisine and wine list.

[28:06] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[29:28] Breakfast at the Red Reflet.

[31:26] What is Roadkill Cantina and how did it get its name?

[33:57] What Bob, Tammy, and Clay want each guest to experience while they’re at the ranch.

[35:59] What stands out to Bob, Tammy, and Clay in terms of the ranch’s evolution, and what they see for the future of the ranch.

[39:15] How Bob, Clay, and Tammy get away or go on vacation.

[31:43] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[32:13] Some of the furthest locations guests have come from to visit or stay at the ranch.

[45:38] Where to learn more about Red Reflet Ranch.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Red Reflet Ranch

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

United States Pony Club

Young Rider Magazine

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“An unusual thing about the ranch is that we try to do all these activities on the guest’s schedule — they don’t have to arrive at a certain time … or do anything but show up for lunch … and dinner.” — Bob Kaplan

“Every night is festive with a lot of conversation and a lot of visiting.” — Bob Kaplan

“The experience that I want guests to have [at the ranch is] … unique, special, and in some way motivational for them — and I’m amazed at how often that is the case.” — Bob Kaplan

“We want it to be a good experience for the guests in every way.” — Clay Trollinger

“Tammy and I would like every [guest] to go home and want to own a horse.” — Clay Trollinger

“Every guest that comes [to the ranch gets a] vacation that is really unique. We don’t have a set schedule so it keeps our jobs fresh too… but whatever you want we try to make it happen, [and] I think that’s one of the most unique parts of the ranch.” — Tammy Trollinger

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In this week’s episode, Elise has the pleasure of interviewing Dr. Phil McLoughlin, a central scientific figure in studying and protecting the wild horses of Sable Island.

Sable Island is a small, narrow strip of land off the coast of Nova Scotia, renowned for its history of countless shipwrecks and for the 550 wild horses who roam its 26 rugged miles. Considered by biologists to be home to one of the last herds of completely wild horses, Sable Island is a treasure trove for Population Ecologist, Dr. Phil McLoughlin, and his team from the University of Saskatchewan’s Department of Biology.

What’s so interesting about the wild horses of Sable Island is that there are a number of conflicting theories about how the horses came to be on the island. Did they swim there in the 1700s, following one of the island’s many shipwrecks, as a popular theory states? Or were they deliberately introduced to the island around that same period of time? Whatever the origins, the horses of Sable Island are incredibly hardy and thrive in an inhospitable environment and the herds are not managed or subject to human interference of any kind. This makes them incredibly interesting to study as they exhibit a true and natural range of both behavioral and physiological characteristics.

In today’s episode, Dr. McLoughlin shares his studies of these horses’ importance from a scientific perspective as well as their potential for providing meaningful data with broad-reaching uses within the horse world.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s guest.

[1:41] Dr. McLoughlin’s thoughts about the horses’ (of Sable Island) origins, as well as the value of studying them.

[6:40] How Sable Island horses compare to other horses of similar populations.

[8:19] Advantages to studying these wild horses and why, in particular, it is especially of interest that they’ve never received any antibiotics.

[11:37] The broader ramifications for understanding what Dr. McLoughlin (and his team) are observing, learning, and studying. And why Dr. McLoughlin originally became interested and invested in studying the horses of Sable Island.

[16:33] Elise shouts out some recent listeners who have left nice reviews on the podcast!

[18:03] What Dr. McLoughlin’s experience was like being in Niobe Thompson’s movie, Equus: The Story of the Horse.

[20:02] How the conditions on the island have impacted how the horses live on the island.

[24:05] Why is that the horses on Sable Island stick to their two coasts of the island? Especially with one being significantly more difficult to live on with the limited resources available to the horses?

[29:40] How long are the lifespans of the horses of Sable Island? And what is the usual cause of death considering there are no natural predators for them?

[31:37] Some of the rough conditions, such as the rough grass that wears the teeth down.

[34:40] The similarities and differences between the parasites found on the Sable Island horses versus mainland horses.

[37:37] Dr. McLoughlin’s thoughts on whether or not the island would exist as it is today if it wasn’t for the horses or if the horses are an invasive species, ultimately damaging the habitat of the island.

[42:30] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons!

[43:57] From a biologist’s perspective, is there a difference between a domesticated, wild, or feral horse?

[46:16] How the public’s view of the Sable Island horses has evolved over the years and how Dr. McLoughlin sees it evolving in the future.

[53:30] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses!

[54:21] Where to learn more about Sable Island and follow Dr. McLoughlin’s studies.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Sable Island

University of Saskatchewan’s Department of Biology

Equus: Story of the Horse (film series by Niobe Thompson)

Because of Horses episode with Niobe Thompson

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

United States Pony Club

Young Rider Magazine

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Dr. McLoughlin’s University of Saskatchewan Profile

McLoughlinLab.ca

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In today’s episode, Elise is joined by Debbie Garcia-Bengochea, the co-founder of Gentle Carousel Miniature Therapy Horses — an award-winning, all-volunteer non-profit. Gentle Carousel’s teams of tiny therapy horses visit over 25,000 adults and children each year inside hospitals, hospice programs, and with families who have experienced traumatic events.

These little horses are always ready to go — helping to comfort survivors and first responders of the mass shootings at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, CT; the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, SC; and the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, FL. They’ve also helped the tornado survivors of Moore, OK; victims of the fires in Gatlinburg, TN; families in the aftermath of Hurricane Irma; and thousands of patients in children’s and veterans’ hospitals across the country.

In this episode, Debbie explains her original inspiration and motivation for starting Gentle Carousel; how these gentle, tiny horses help people connect with one another in heart-breaking times; and some of the beautiful interactions between horses and patients over their 20 years of helping others. She also shares how they’ve trained the horses for working inside buildings -- yes, they’re “house-broken” -- the vastly different environments and settings they go into, and how they care for the horses on and off the job.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s guest.

[1:35] Debbie’s original inspiration and motivation for starting Gentle Carousel.

[2:30] How these gentle, tiny horses help people to connect with one another.

[5:10] What is it about horses that people really connect with, whether or not they’re horse-lovers, as well as a detailed description of the horses’ two-year training program.

[9:48] How the horses lead their handlers, seemingly knowing which individuals need them most.

[12:36] Through the horses’ interaction with people in need, does it feel as if there’s something more than “just” therapy at work?

[15:21] Debbie and Elise reflect on the magical gift that is miniature horses.

[17:49] How do you house-train a horse?

[19:26] About all the different environments the horses have gone into – including elevators, TV studios, hospitals, and more.

[20:01] Are there places Debbie still wants to take the horses that they have not already been?

[23:11] Debbie explains how Gentle Carousel cares for their miniature horses.

[27:10] Why it is so important to treat the miniature horses the same as large horses?

[36:30] Debbie and Elise discuss the size and temperament of miniature horses, and whether each individual specializes in the types of situation or need.

[43:30] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[46:07] How Debbie and her volunteers personally get through their sometimes highly emotional encounters, witnessing others’ heartbreak.

[52:00] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[53:15] Where to learn more about Gentle Carousel Miniature Therapy Horses.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Gentle Carousel Miniature Therapy Horses

Gentle Carousel Miniature Therapy Horses’ Facebook

Gentle Carousel Miniature Therapy Horses’ Instagram

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

United States Pony Club

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Tamara Gooch’s love for photography is equaled only by her love of horses, and her passion for each subject is revealed in the artistry, rich color and unique focus of every image she shoots. After fifteen years as a professional photographer, Tamara still gets excited every time she picks up her camera.

Tamara’s catalog of work is filled with museum quality pieces which will be treasured by their owners for generations to come. She believes that photography is about seizing moments of life, and her work is the fusion of emotions, passion for the horse and the world around her. Tamara is on a quest to bring back the printed image so that families can relive the memories and love captured in a photograph for years to come.

Tamara travels the world to do custom photo shoots, creating professional images to promote stallions, breeding and sales programs. In addition, she offers photography workshops ranging from one-day intensives to two week-long European adventures. Tamara welcomes photographers of any skill level to her sessions, so long as they are willing to learn about capturing the soul and essence of the horse—their spirit, power and beauty. Workshops teach students about the rules of perspective and composition, but also how those rules can be broken to create fabulous shots.

Based in the Boise, Idaho area, Tamara’s work often features western inspired themes and wild horses. In 2012, Tamara was one of the first artists featured in the Desert Caballeros Museum’s “Cowgirls with a Camera” exhibit. She was recognized by Ranch and Reata magazine as one of the top five photographers they have ever published and has been named one of the world’s Top 3 Equine Photographers.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About Elise’s guest today, Tamara Gooch.

[:46] Tamara talks about combining her passion for photography and horses to create her dream career.

[2:33] What it means to Tamara when she hears how others have been moved by her photography.

[4:55] What Tamara feels her photos reveal about herself.

[7:55] Was there a pivotal moment when Tamara recognized the important role that horses play in her life?

[11:04] Tamara’s special horses and their deep connection.

[16:00] What Tamara finds so alluring about old western towns and western heritage, and why shooting them carries deep meaning for her.

[18:41] What Tamara wants to capture in her photography.

[20:45] About being authentic in her work and the images she creates.

[23:03] Tamara’s thoughts on how horses and wildlife teach us about honesty and authenticity.

[25:54] How Tamara’s voice as a photographer informs what and how she shoots.

[28:02] Tamara’s process for designing her photography travel workshops and what the participants experience and learn.

[32:17] Tamara shares some fun stories from workshops over the years.

[40:04] How Tamara internalizes and experiences the different environments she shoots in, from palatial European villas to remote desert locations.

[42:38] About Elise’s fantastic book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[45:17] The importance of understanding animal behavior in wildlife photography.

[47:14] Tamara offers advice to those interested in building a career based on their own passions.

[50:37] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[52:02] Tamara and Elise discuss the impact of taking online images and copyright infringement.

[56:16] Tamara’s favorite cameras and lenses to use while shooting.

[58:00] Where to find Tamara and her work online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Tamara Gooch’s Photography[Text Wrapping Break]WesternPhotographers.com

Tamara Gooch’s photography on Facebook, Instagram, and Pinterest

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

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Episode 34: Portugal’s Equestrian Treasures: the Valenca Family

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Elise’s guest this episode is Sandy Collier: acclaimed international judge, clinician and member of the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame. Sandy’s analytical approach to training and reputation for consistency in both practice and show pens has resulted in a 50-year career studded with success.

Sandy grew up in the Northeast riding three-day event horses, but fell in love with

Western riding after landing in California in the mid-1970s. There, she worked for Doug

Ingersoll and Tom Shelly, and began to compete on Quarter Horses in the California

Reined Cow Horse Association. By the early 80s, she was running a training program of

her own.

Sandy’s competitive success grew quickly, with multiple AQHA and National Reined

Cow Horse Association World Championships (NRCHA) among her notable results. In

1993, riding Miss Rey Dry, she became the first and only woman to win the NRCHA

Snaffle Bit Futurity Open Championship, regarded as the world’s toughest cow horse

event.

With lifetime earnings of nearly $1 million, Sandy has been inducted into both the

Cowgirl and NRCHA Hall of Fame and Horse and Rider named her one of the Top 50

Riders of All Time in All Disciplines.

Sandy continues to positively impact the Western horse community through her clinics,

training videos and book, “Reining Essentials.” In 2017, Sandy and Barbra Schulte

teamed up to found “Be Unstoppable,” offering clinics and retreats to help equestrians

overcome challenges in reaching their riding and personal goals. With a deep-seated

love of the sport and a drive for constant improvement, Sandy is well known for her ability to find what works for the horse – no matter the discipline – to become their best.

In this episode, Sandy talks about her deep love for horses and how they have inspired her life path; her thoughts on being inducted into the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame, as well as receiving so many other prestigious awards; how her clinics and retreats are structured, and what participants should expect from each; Sandy’s special horses-of-a-lifetime; and her observations from travelling the world. She also gives her advice to those who are either taking their first steps in pursuing their passion or are at a crossroads in that pursuit.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About Elise’s guest today, Sandy Collier.

[1:44] Sandy speaks about the path her life has taken as she’s pursued building a career around horses.

[2:50] What it is about horses that speaks to her so deeply.

[5:10] Was Sandy the only person in her family that had a deep love for horses?

[6:25] Looking back on her career, Sandy reflects on her transition from riding English to riding Western.

[8:54] Sandy explains the Reined Cow Horse discipline.

[12:25] Considering that Sandy is competing in disciplines that have traditionally been dominated by men, has gender ever been an issue?

[14:35] Up-and-coming female riders Sandy thinks have a shot at being the next champion of the NRCHA Snaffle Bit Futurity.

[15:22] Elise reads a quote from the author, Joyce Gibson Roach, and Sandy explains how the sentiment inspires her.

[16:59] About some of Sandy’s amazing accomplishments outside the horse world.

[19:04] Sandy gives some advice for those who are either taking their first steps in pursuing their passion or are at a crossroads.

[21:24] Sandy’s thoughts on being inducted into the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame, and being included among these talented and inspirational women.

[22:45] What horses mean to Sandy both personally and professionally, and how they’ve guided her life.

[25:02] Sandy speaks about her special horses-of-a-lifetime.

[29:47] Sandy and Elise address some horse myths.

[31:22] Sandy’s observations on horse people as she has traveled the world.

[32:25] About the retreats and clinics Sandy and Barbra Schulte run together.

[37:05] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[37:40] Sandy talks about the mental and personal skill set that is essential to participants in her retreats and clinics.

[40:47] Where to learn more about Sandy and her work.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Sandy Collier

Horse and Rider

National Reined Cow Horse Association (NRCHA)

Cowgirl Hall of Fame

The Cowgirls, by Joyce Gibson Roach

Donna Barton Brothers

Because of Horses’ episode, “Distinguished Former Jockey and Accomplished TV Correspondent, Donna Barton Brothers”

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Barbra Schulte

Because of Horses’ episode, “The Cutting Edge: NCHA Champion and Trainer, Barbra Schulte”

Barb & Sandy’s Clinics and Riding Retreats (Be Unstoppable)

Barb & Sandy’s Clinics and Riding Retreats’ Facebook page (Be Unstoppable)

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

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Tyler Jacobs, director and real estate partner with Hall and Hall, has been selling farms and ranches since 1998. Hall and Hall is the premier source for ranchers looking to buy and sell land in the west, with over $3 billion in total sales since 2008 and more acreage brokered than any firm in the world.

Founded in 1946 by Henry Hall and his son Warren, Hall and Hall grew from modest roots with deals simply closed by a handshake to an employee-owned company whose team-based approach is customer-focused and results-oriented. Hall and Hall’s 24 brokers and agents work out of 19 regional offices spanning from Texas to Montana, assisting clients with individual needs ranging from mortgage banking to real estate appraisals to hiring an experienced ranch manager.

Tyler is based in the College Station, Texas, branch of Hall and Hall, and ranches in nearby Montgomery, Texas. Tyler, his wife Amy and their four children show ranch horses and commercial cattle. He is the president of the Texas Land Brokers Network.

In this episode, Elise and Tyler discuss his passion for real estate, ranching, horses, and the land; his experiences with both his work and his favorite horses; as well as his insights into helping buyers fulfill their dreams. He also reflects on the unique opportunities that have come his way because of his ranching experience and heritage, and offers guidance on selecting a real estate expert, including the specific needs of horse-people and fascinating anecdotes about representing some of the finest properties in the US.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About Elise’s guest today: Tyler Jacobs.

[:48] Why Hall and Hall’s traditions are so fundamental to him personally and to the organization.

[3:43] How often are buyers’ dreams and ideals not only met, but exceeded?

[6:24] Elise’s personal experience ranch-hunting and Tyler’s observations on the similarities among buyers.

[8:47] Properties that particularly stand out to Tyler.

[13:36] When buyers or sellers are looking for a real estate agency to represent them, what is it that Tyler would like them to know about Hall and Hall?

[18:58] All of the important attributes in a good real estate representative.

[20:12] What made Tyler originally want to get into real estate? And what has kept him in the business?

[24:40] Tyler reflects on how blessed he feels for the opportunities presented to him and being able to partner with Hall and Hall.

[28:48] Horses that stand out to Tyler as true favorites.

[32:05] How normal is the ranching lifestyle (and all that it encompasses) for Tyler and his family?

[40:15] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[41:56] Some more of Tyler’s and his family’s special experience with horses and ranches.

[42:55] Where to learn more about Hall and Hall, and talk with Tyler directly.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Hall and Hall

Stock Horse Association of Texas

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

United States Pony Club

To get in touch with Tyler, call: (936) 537-1749

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Elise’s guest is James Clement, the Horse Division Manager of the Quarter Horse Program at the King Ranch – one of the most respected and historically significant Quarter Horse operations in existence... not only pre-dating recognition of the breed, but directly responsible for its creation.

From 1853 when he founded the 825,000-acre King Ranch, Captain Richard King (a visionary and the son of destitute Irish immigrants) meticulously up-bred the stallions and mares of the Wild Horse Desert whose descendants would become some of the finest – and the very first – Quarter Horses in the world.

This includes the American Quarter Horse Association (AQHA), founded in 1940, selecting the King Ranch’s Wimpy as the very first stallion registered in the new breed’s stud book. As well, some of the most successful Quarter Horses in history are King horses, including Mr. San Peppy – the youngest horse ever inducted into the National Cutting Horse Association Hall of Fame.

For seven generations, King Ranch has been owned and maintained by descendants of Captain King, and their dedication to producing the finest horses and cattle possible continues their founder’s legacy.

In this week’s episode, James discusses King Ranch’s mission, the horse program’s historical significance, and talks about the Ranch’s current stock – including their talented Quarter Horse stallions and his plans. James also shares insights into continuing his family’s seven generations of Ranch stewardship, what it’s like to literally walk in his predecessor’s boot-steps, and the extraordinarily unique community Captain King began almost 170 years ago.

Topics of Discussion:

[:20] About Elise’s guest today, James Clement.

[1:07] From a personal and professional perspective, James talks about the great responsibility – and honor – of carrying on the Ranch’s traditions.

[2:58] How the King Ranch’s focus on excellence guides James every day.

[5:10] About the legendary Wimpy and some of the other famous Quarter Horses the King Ranch has produced.

[7:49] About King Ranch’s mission and the qualities James looks for in horses and in ranch-hands.

[10:46] James discusses the King Ranch’s breeding program and how it remains true to their core mission.

[13:15] About Old Sorrel and why he was so important to King Ranch (and to today’s Quarter Horse breed).

[17:45] James shares the story of Captain King’s life.

[21:36] James continues the story of Captain King, why he bought all of the cattle from a village in Mexico, and how the legendary Kinenos for their start.

[24:49] The amazing heritage most of the coworkers at King Ranch share.

[26:18] James’s education, US Marine Corps service, and return to King Ranch.

[28:22] James, the newlywed!

[28:50] What it’s like to visit the Quarter Horse operation and touring the King Ranch.

[34:40] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[35:25] James’s favorite aspects of the Ranch, itself.

[40:45] About next week’s episode of the Because of Horses podcast.

[41:40] Where to learn more about the King Ranch.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

King Ranch

King Ranch’s Instagram

King Ranch’s Facebook

King Ranch articles on Texas Monthly

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

American Quarter Horse Association

American Cutting Horse Association

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Elise’s guest today is Reese Koffler-Stanfield, U.S. Dressage Federation (USDF)

bronze, silver and gold medalist. Reese is a lifelong professional horseperson from

Kentucky, who has competed in the sport of dressage since early childhood. She is one

of the only USDF Certified Instructor/Trainers through Fourth Level in Region II, which

encompasses five states.

Reese participated in USDF Youth programs including the Advanced Young

Rider Program, culminating in numerous international medals. She has trained with

world-class coaches including Conrad Schumacher, Kathy Connelly, Jessica

Ransehousen, Ellen Bontje and George Williams.

Now, Reese is the head rider, trainer and coach at Maplecrest Farm in

Georgetown, Kentucky, a state-of-the-art dressage training facility. She is also a sought-

after clinician... even among other internationally renowned clinicians. “She’s one of the bravest people I know,” says Stacy Westfall. “She’s a dressage trainer who’s willing to teach a reiner to ride dressage.”

In this week’s episode, Reese discusses the art of dressage, focusing on both the physical and the mental components that are so crucial to the sport. She also speaks about her family’s involvement with horses, how she first got into dressage, and the very special horses in her life. She shares her passionate advocacy of safety equipment and safe practices while riding or being around horses, and the important qualities she looks for in the students she accepts into her training program. One of the most essential? Enjoying your time with horses.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About today’s guest, Reese Koffler Stanfield.

[1:01] How Reese describes dressage.

[4:09] Reese speaks about as an art form.

[6:20] A bit of background on Reese’s family involvement with horses and how she first got started in dressage.

[6:54] The many different ways people can work, ride, and compete with horses.

[10:35] The different levels of dressage and why it is often said that riding dressage doesn’t really start until the second level.

[16:04] What the training and preparation process is like for dressage competition.

[22:37] The crucial mental component of riding dressage.

[25:43] Reese speaks about the very special horses in her life.

[30:11] Coaches who have influenced Reese’s riding career.

[34:49] The qualities that are consistent amongst Reese’s best students.

[42:14] Courtney King-Dye, Reese’s advocacy for safety, and what she would like other riders to know.

[50:32] What it’s like to have a family who shares her love of horses.

[54:54] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses with James Clement.

[57:09] Reese talks about her wonderful podcast, The Dressage Radio Show.

[59:48] Where to find Reese and Maple Crest Farm online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

FEI

USDF

Because of Horses episode with Denny Emerson

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

The Dressage Radio Show (with Reese Stanfield) on the Horse Radio Network

Maple Crest Farm

Maple Crest Farm on Facebook

Reese Koffler Stanfield on Facebook

Courtney King-Dye

Riders4Helmets

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Horseman, performer and poet Guy McLean is originally from Melbourne, Australia, but moved to Queensland to what became his parents’ Susan River Homestead Holiday Ranch. There, this shy young boy grew up, devoted to horses and developing his horsemanship skills and deep love for the Bush country.

Named official Ambassador of the Outback, Guy has wowed audiences with his performances of horsemanship, Bush poetry and whip cracking since 1999. In 2005, Guy was the inaugural winner of Equitana’s “Way of the Horse” young horse-starting competition and he credits his victory with the methods he learned in the Queensland Bush.

Guy and his talented horses – many of whom prior owners had given up on – have performed for over a million people and achieved worldwide acclaim. He is referred to by his fans and Australian dignitaries as a “national treasure” and “living legend.” Although this humble Australian still blushes at such remarks, it is these kind words and his remarkable relationship with his horses that inspire him to succeed and continue to spread his message.

Now an international sensation, Guy makes his base in the United States… although his beloved homeland of Australia is where his heart resides.

Guy believes that the best tools in horsemanship are knowledge, compassion, patience, and imagination. And in today’s episode, this really shows through. He shares his kind words and stories of inspiration, his beliefs about horses and their partnership with humans, the difference between a rider and a horseman, and so much more.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About Elise’s guest today, Guy McLean.

[1:11] About Guy’s family and life growing up in the Bush.

[3:30] How Guy’s father’s words when he was younger have guided his life — especially with horses.

[6:44] Guy reflects on how far he has come since the shy, little boy he once was, as well as the difference between being a rider and a horseman.

[10:55] What Guy thinks horses want from us.

[14:33] Guy McLean recites his remarkable poem, “This is War,” and explains the story behind it.

[19:11] What Guy wishes people knew about “difficult” horses.

[26:54] How Guy takes knowing horses to the next level.

[31:06] Guy describes the Australian Stock Horse breed and personality.

[35:21] Guy elaborates on some of the unique elements of an Aussie stockman, and how and why he shares them in his performances.

[43:55] Guy and Elise discuss Guy’s move to Texas (AKA the Australia of the States!)

[47:25] Guy talks about the fulfilling path he has taken with horses.

[50:39] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[51:37] Why it is so important to Guy to be charitable and kind-hearted.

[56:40] Guy tells the story of when he first met Stacy Westfall.

[58:04] Where to learn more about Guy and follow him online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

“This is War,” by Guy McLean

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Because of Horses episode with Stacy Westfall

Guy McLean’s Website

Guy McLean’s Facebook page

Equitana

World Equestrian Games

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The College of Veterinary Medicine at Texas A&M University is one of only 31 colleges of veterinary medicine in North America… and is considered by many to be one of the finest. Leading this phenomenal College is Dr. Eleanor Green, the Carl B. King Dean of Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences — and Elise’s guest today!

Dr. Eleanor Green has many amazing accomplishments and “firsts!” She was the first woman veterinarian to be hired at Mississippi State University, the first female department head at both the University of Tennessee and the University of Florida, the first woman Dean at Texas A&M’s College of Veterinary Medicine, and the first female President of the American Association of Equine Practitioners. Dr. Green is also an avid equestrian competitor, a dedicated educator, and a wonderfully generous resource for all things “horse.”

In today’s episode, Dr. Green shares her insight as both a veterinarian and Dean into what it takes to be a skilled clinician, why it’s more difficult to get into veterinary college than into medical school, and offers advice to young people – and their parents – on getting accepted into Texas A&M’s phenomenal veterinarian program.

Topics of Discussion:

[:18] About Elise’s guest today, Dr. Eleanor Green.

[:56] Dr. Green shares her insights into leading one of the most prestigious veterinarian schools in the U.S.

[2:17] Dr. Green’s inspiration and path to becoming a veterinarian.

[4:00] Dr. Green’s thoughts on what drives our passion for horses – are we born with it or does it develop throughout our lives?

[11:35] Dr. Green’s depth of experience in the horse world as an owner, a competitor, and a veterinarian, and how it translates to her interactions with students.

[13:56] With so many “firsts” throughout her career, has it felt as if she was forging new paths?

[20:54] Reflecting on her career, Dr. Green gives advice to young adults getting ready for college.

[27:33] The importance of recognizing talent and skill when we see it in others.

[30:42] Why is harder to get into a veterinarian school than into medical school?

[34:34] The typical path Dr. Green recommends students follow to maximize their success when applying to A&M’s vet school.

[37:07] Dr. Green outlines some of the top reasons that students decide to study veterinary medicine and some of the qualities that make for a great vet.

[41:00] Dr. Green shares her experience behind the scenes at the 1996 Olympics.

[46:36] About all of the roles A&M fulfills on behalf of horse owners.

[52:14] About next week’s guest of Because of Horses.

[53:39] Where to learn more about Texas A&M’s College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical Sciences.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Texas A&M University College of Veterinary Medicine & Biomedical Sciences (vetmed.tamu.edu)

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

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Nancy Brown likes to joke around that she “sleeps around a lot… but in a good way!” Combining her love of horses with her passion for travel and writing, Nancy shares her adventures through her blog, website, and various publications.

Believing that travel is better on the back of a horse, Nancy has ridden in Canada, the Caribbean, Ireland, Mexico, Norway, Switzerland, Portugal, all over the US, and in countless other beautiful locations.

In today’s episode, Nancy recounts some of her favorite travel experiences on horseback, gives great advice and tips on traveling alone, and how to manage a lengthy horse ride at any age. She also talks about her top riding locations, her travel Bucket List, and her “must see” horse-related attractions around the world.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Nancy Brown.

[1:05] After having two hip replacements by the age of 55 and her doctor’s orders of “No more riding,” how long did it take Nancy before she was back in the saddle?

[3:23] Nancy’s experience seeing marvelous sights from the saddle.

[4:58] Nancy talks about horses in different cultures and countries.

[8:02] What Nancy looks for when selects a destination to ride.

[9:21] Nancy talks about her recent four-day ride in Utah.

[11:09] How Nancy manages long rides.

[14:12] Qualities Nancy looks for in lodging, rides, centers, and points of interest.

[16:08] Nancy’s favorite riding locations.

[18:13] Are there any places Nancy won’t visit?

[20:00] Nancy’s experiences traveling alone and her advice for lone travelers (especially women).

[21:11] Nancy’s favorite horse-related attractions.

[23:01] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[23:43] The locations at the top of Nancy’s Bucket List.

[27:10] Nancy tells the story of an early travel experience in high school.

[29:11] Elise’s guest on next week’s Because of Horses.

[30:08] The adventures Nancy has planned for 2019.

[33:38] Where to learn more about Nancy’s travels and follow her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Writing Horseback

NancyDBrown.com

Nancy’s Instagram @NancyDBrown

Nancy’s Twitter @NancyDBrown

Nancy’s Youtube NancyDBrown

Nancy’s Facebook @WritingHorseback

Chicago Tribune

Alaska Beyond Magazine

Shape Magazine

Unbranded, the film

Ruby’s Grand Adventure

Echo Valley Ranch (in BC, Canada)

Red Reflet Ranch (in Wyoming)

Hill Country Equestrian Lodge (in Bandera, Texas)

Gleneagles (in Scotland)

Vienna Imperial Carriage Museum

Irish National Stud

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Arizona Cowboy College

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Rattlesnakes, a wolf at midnight, bears, unexpected snow, and a falling-down-exhausted back country hiker… long-distance solo rider Gillian Larson has seen it all from the saddle as she and her beloved horses, Shyla and Takoda, have covered thousands of miles between Mexico and Canada, and criss-crossed the American West. Alone.

Gillian has made multiple horseback treks from the Mexican border to British Columbia on the 2,650 mile Pacific Crest Trail. She’s also the youngest person to ever solo through-ride the trail — and twice, at that! Since then, she’s completed thousands of miles on the Arizona Trail and the Colorado Trail — and, in September 2018 — finished the Continental Divide Trail through New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

In this episode, Elise and Gillian discuss her daring adventures on her long-distance solo trail rides — from wildlife encounters to the technicalities of riding through rough terrain, and more. Gillian walks us through her personal experiences on various trails and shares the complexity of making such arduous journeys, including how she cares for the horses (and herself) on the trail, the extensive preparation, the mapping, and detailed research. And Gillian reminisces about some of the funny and entertaining interactions she’s had with various through-hikers she’s met along the way. You’ll want to tune in for this edition of Because of Horses!

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Gillian Larson.

[:53] What originally inspired to take her first solo, long-distance trek.

[3:47] Gillian’s experience writing a guidebook/blog about her adventures.

[10:24] How Gillian’s blog became more visible through a sponsorship with Tucker Saddlery.

[12:33] How long does it take to complete one of these journeys? And how many miles does she generally complete a day?

[14:14] How Gillian prepares for a long-distance trip (for both human and horse).

[25:42] Gillian discusses horse care deep in the back-country.

[39:10] Gillian shares some wildlife encounters.

[44:04] Does Gillian ever get scared while alone in extremely remote wilderness, especially at night?

[54:00] Gillian talks about some of her human interactions out on the trail.

[1:07:34] Gillian addresses a misconception that is often said by hikers along the trail.

[1:11:08] Gillian reflects on the number of hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail over the years.

[1:13:11] The hardest (and favorite) states to traverse.

[1:14:50] Gillian’s endurance vs. the average through-hiker, and some of her observations and experiences with them.

[1:19:26] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[1:20:10] What’s on Gillian’s to-do list? Where does she want to ride next?

[1:35:00] Elise gives a preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[1:35:56] Where to follow Gillian online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Pacific Crest Trail

Arizona Trail

Colorado Trail

Continental Divide Trail
Gillian’s Blog: Pacific Crest Quest

Tucker Saddlery

Gillian’s Instagram: @thru_rider

Wild: From Lost to Found on the Pacific Crest Trail, by Cheryl Strayed

Wild (Film, 2014)

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

A Walk in the Woods: Rediscovering America on the Appalachian Trail, by Bill Bryson
Glacier National Park

Unbranded (Film, 2015)

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Writing Horseback

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In today’s episode, Elise talks with Denny Emerson, named by The Chronicle of the Horse as “one of the 50 most influential horsemen of the Twentieth Century.” Denny is the only rider to have won both an Olympic Gold Medal in Eventing and a Tevis buckle in Endurance. He has been inducted into the United States Eventing Association (USEA) Hall of Fame, awarded USEA’s Wofford Cup for lifetime service to Eventing, as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award by the American Riding Instructor Certification Program. He also served twice as the USEA’s President and as the United States Equestrian Team (USET) Vice President of Eventing for seven years.

Now, in his almost five decades of competing at the preliminary level (or higher), Denny Emerson is — without question — one of the horse world’s greats. He has worn many hats over the years: eventer, trainer, coach, author, leader, and activist. Throughout his phenomenal career, Denny has been a significant, influential force in the equestrian community.

And today, with Elise, he dives deep into what he would like his legacy in the horse world to be, some of the turning points in his career, his experience as an endurance rider and participating in the Tevis Cup, and gives his thoughts on what he believes the future may hold for young riders in the horse world.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Denny Emerson.

[1:24] What Denny would like his legacy in the horse world to be.

[2:48] Having been born in a non-equestrian family, what does Denny think drew him to horses so deeply?

[4:47] The pivotal experience that truly ignited his love for horses.

[7:28] Does Denny suppose that the very nature of having ridden in many disciplines has made him a particularly great rider?

[12:58] A pivotal horse in Denny’s early life: Cat.

[15:52] Another important horse in Denny’s life that led to a turning point in his career: Victor Dakin.

[19:59] About Denny’s book, How Good Riders Get GOOD, and his thoughts on how riders can significantly improve their skills.

[23:11] The critical importance of getting your hands on the horse and riding a lot of different horses.

[29:09] About Denny’s incredible instruction and lessons, and his approach to teaching.

[35:13] Elise tells a story about someone who has had a huge effect on her.

[36:36] What about endurance riding appeals to Denny, what makes a great endurance horse, and his experience competing in the Tevis Cup.

[47:25] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[48:05] What Denny believes the future may hold and the evolution of the horse world.

[53:53] Denny’s thoughts on the idea of riders aging out of the industry faster than new riders are getting introduced to the horse world.

[58:25] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[59:10] Some suggestions for getting more young riders and their families fully immersed in the horse world.

[1:00:48] Denny’s final thoughts on some of the positive changes in the horse world.

[1:02:43] Where to learn more about Denny and what he is up to.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

United States Eventing Association (USEA)

American Riding Instructors Association

United States Equestrian Team (USET)

Lone Ranger (radio show)

How Good Riders Get Good: Daily Choices That Lead to Success in Any Equestrian Sport, by Denny Emerson

BOH Episode with Stacy Westfall

Know Better to Do Better: Mistakes I Made with Horses (So You Don't Have To),
by Denny Emerson
The Tevis Cup

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of BOH

Tamarack Hill Farm’s Facebook Page

Denny Emerson’s Facebook Page

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Elise’s guest today is Patricia Kelly, President and CEO of Ebony Horsewomen Inc., in Hartford, Connecticut.

What began in 1984 as a cultural enrichment organization made up of African-American female equestrians has evolved into a devoted team of mental health professionals and horse specialists working to guide over 300 at-risk youth annually towards successful lives. Perhaps most importantly, by creating a safe and welcoming oasis, by providing structure, and by teaching self-respect and self-worth, Pat is demonstrating to youngsters who desperately need it, the resonating message that they matter. For her dedication to these youth, Pat has been inducted into the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame and named by CNN as a Top 10 CNN Hero.

In today’s episode, Pat shares how helping at-risk youth extends far beyond teaching them to ride, how the program originated and has evolved, stories of children in the program and how they’ve progressed, and the commonalities Pat has observed that the horses are particularly adept at addressing. She also shares deeply personal stories, including the unexpected kindness that led to her first connection with horses, her father’s riding experiences as the son of former slaves living on the same plantation where they were in bondage, Pat’s service as a United States Marine and how she returned to horses, and the joy – and challenges – she and her team experience every day through working with at-risk youth.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Patricia Kelly.

[1:18] Pat explains how Ebony Horsewomen is so much more than just teaching youth how to ride.

[3:28] Pat speaks about the beautiful oasis they have created at Ebony Horsewomen.

[6:40] The Holocaust survivor, the unexpected kindness of an elderly neighbor, and Pat’s first experience with horses.

[10:27] How Pat learned her father had been a jockey and how his fear of horses affected her.

[15:09] Pat’s insight into why her dad gave up riding.

[17:36] Did Pat’s love of horses bring her closer to her father?

[18:00] Pat’s experience rediscovering her passion for horses after serving in the United States Marine Corps.

[22:05] When and how Ebony Horsewomen came to be.

[22:26] What it meant for Ebony Horsewomen to be recognized by the Tournament of Roses Parade, as well as being chosen by the state of Connecticut as Goodwill Ambassadors.

[26:09] Elise shares an excerpt from CNN’s paying tribute to Pat as a Top 10 CNN Hero.

[27:00] Pat talks about the children’s lives outside of the Ebony Horsewomen stables and why the program is so meaningful to these often forgotten youth. She also shares some stories of children in the program.

[36:10] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[36:49] Pat explains the important skills young people develop at Ebony Horsewomen.

[40:40] It’s not just about the horses: how the program impacts many aspects of the young people’s lives.

[46:45] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[47:56] Why horses are particularly well-suited for aiding in this therapeutic process.

[49:26] Pat’s insights into the youngsters’ experience/therapy with the horses.

[51:34] Pat shares a story of a boy’s experience with the horses.

[52:46] About Because of Horses Facebook page!

[53:51] The commonalities Pat has observed among participants that the horses are particularly adept at addressing.

[55:38] Pat shares another story of a young boy in the program and his amazing progress since.

[56:46] What Pat wants people to know most about the kids in the program.

[1:01:26] Where to find Pat online and learn more about Ebony Horsewomen.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Ebony Horsewomen Incorporated (Phone #: 860-293-2914)

Info@EbonyHorsewomen.us (Email Address)

Ebony Horsewomen Facebook
Ebony Horsewomen Twitter

National Cowgirl Hall of Fame
CNN Heroes

Tournament of Roses Parade

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Because of Horses Facebook Page

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The National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame is dedicated to honoring and celebrating women – both past and present – whose lives exemplify the courage, resilience, and independence that helped shape the American West.

The only one of its kind, the museum is located in the Fort Worth, Texas Cultural District and currently houses over 4,000 artifacts and information on some of the world's most inspirational women. The Hall of Fame has inducted over 233 (and counting) honorees, including Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, Georgia O'Keeffe, Sacagawea, Annie Oakley, Dale Evans, Dr. Temple Grandin, Reba McEntire, Velma Johnston (Wild Horse Annie), and Stacy Westfall.

In today’s episode, Executive Director Pat Riley describes how the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame inductees – both historic and contemporary – exemplify the spirit of the American West; the relevance of the Hall of Fame’s mission in today’s political environment; and how Pat and her team balance history, yet keep the visitor experience fresh and engaging. She also shares the behind-the-scenes efforts that result in their innovative exhibit designs; the museum’s evolution since its inception in 1973; and their plans for the future – especially, an exciting new $5.5 million exhibit, “It’s Never Just a Horse,” that beautifully explores our relationship with horses.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Pat Riley.

[1:34] Pat talks about how the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame inductees exemplify the spirit of the American West -- whether they’re from the US or from overseas.

[6:00] What it’s like for Pat to lead such a remarkable institution.

[9:05] Pat discusses the relevance of the Hall of Fame’s mission in today’s environment.

[11:35] Pat speaks about her fascinating family connection to historic figures Mitzi Lucas Riley and Tad Lucas, reflects on how much the world has changed for the role of women, and the rich history of the museum.

[20:02] Pat’s thoughts on why cowgirls have not received the same recognition as cowboys.

[22:47] How Pat balances the history at the museum, while keeping the visitor experience fresh and personal.

[25:43] Innovating and creating – how two internationally renowned French exhibit designers “got” the National Cowgirl mission.

[32:09] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[32:49] Pat discusses the new “It’s Never Just a Horse” exhibit coming in March 2019.

[36:34] Pat speculates why the bond between horses and humans (and specifically, women) is so strong.

[39:49] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[40:38] Artifacts of the museum that Pat finds particular noteworthy.

[42:57] Pat explains the process for an individual to become inducted into the National Hall of Fame.

[48:09] Has Pat had any “aha” moments?

[49:56] How Pat envisions the future of the museum and Hall of Fame.

[52:30] Where to learn more about the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

The Cowgirls, by Joyce Gibson Roach

Kathleen Moody of Breyer Horses

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Annie Oakley

Because of Horses’ episode with Alan Day (Sandra Day O’Connor’s brother)

Game of Thrones and Wonder Woman Horse Master, Camilla Naprous

Because of Horses’ episode with Stacy Westfall

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses podcast is the extraordinary horsewoman, Barbra Schulte. She is the only woman to win the Cutting Horse "Triple Crown”: the NCHA Derby, the NCHA Super Stakes Classic, and the Augusta Futurity. She was also awarded National Female Equestrian of the Year by the American Quarter Horse Association and the Women’s Sports Foundation, and is a National Cowgirl Hall of Fame inductee, former Vice President of the Cutting Horse Association, a professional trainer and clinician, a certified Performance Coach, multi-published author, and an equine consultant.

On top of all that, Barbra Schulte is an advocate — and a great example — of living life to the fullest. In this episode, she and Elise discuss how her parents’ training business impacted her own career, from a very early age; how it felt to compete at 13 against adults at the national level – and win; and how her degree and initial, non-horse career actually fed her passion for horses and makes her that much more effective as a trainer and a coach.

In this conversation, Barbara also talks about some of the universal rider issues she’s observed and worked to correct; how she helps guide riders to reframe their thoughts and “rein” in their emotions; explains what makes a good Cutting Horse; and shares her own riding approach and techniques.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Barbra Schulte.

[1:02] When did Barbra realize she had a talent for horses? Or was it just always present from her early childhood?

[5:25] As a very young rider competing against adult professionals, did Barbra realize how remarkable her achievements were?

[8:26] How Barbra’s previous studies and careers connect with her current path and passion for horses.

[13:37] Universal obstacles and issues that Barbra comes across time and again as a certified Personal Performance Coach.

[17:00] How does Barbra coach riders to reframe their thoughts and “rein” in their emotions?

[21:57] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons!

[22:40] What is it like to ride a good Cutting Horse? What makes a good Cutter? And how does Barbra hang on?

[28:28] Barbra speculates why there tend to be more men in Cutting than women.

[31:33] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[32:44] What it means to Barbra to be honored by the National Cowgirl Museum and Hall of Fame.

[36:25] About how Barbra’s husband, Tom, and his nominating her for the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame.

[36:39] How Tom and Barbra work together on a day-to-day basis.

[40:44] Elise thanks YOU for listening to Because of Horses! She reads a couple reviews from new listeners and thanks everyone for tuning in.

[42:38] Where to learn more about Barbra’s work and find her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Barbra Schulte

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Stacy Westfall

Because of Horses Episode with Stacy Westfall

Next episode of the Because of Horses podcast

BecauseofHorses.com

National Cowgirl Hall of Fame

THE GIFT, by Barbra Schulte

Barbra Schulte Facebook Page

Be Unstoppable Facebook Page

Be Unstoppable

Barbra Schulte and Sandy Collier’s Clinics and Retreats

The National Cutting Horse Association

American Quarter Horse Association

Women’s Sports Foundation

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Elise’s guest today is Julie Goodnight: internationally renowned trainer, clinician, and host of the award-winning RFD-TV show “Horse Master with Julie Goodnight.” As well, Julie’s syndicated columns appear in over 50 publications and her DVDs are among the equestrian world’s top go-to training tools. She is also the spokesperson for Certified Horsemanship Association — the U.S. organization focused on promoting safety and excellence in horsemanship — and has been named Equine Affaire’s Exceptional Equestrian Educator (one of only three such awards ever given).

Julie likes to joke that she’s helping horses one human at a time — but like all good humor, there’s a vein of truth in this observation. And that’s because Julie focuses on the foundation of horsemanship: our relationship with horses, how well we communicate, consistency in our interactions, and the importance of lifelong learning. Julie’s approach to training will truly help nurture your connection with your horse.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Julie Goodnight.

[1:21] What the phrase “natural horsemanship” means to Julie.

[1:53] Julie speaks about her top priority in training — improving the rider’s relationship with their horse.

[4:22] Why horses can’t be trained to not spook, but they can be taught to be more focused through replacement training.

[16:05] Julie speaks about de-sensitizing horses to scary stimuli and how to help build confidence in themselves and trust in you.

[25:06] The snowball effect that positive or negative training can have on a horse.

[29:02] Elise and Julie discuss the unfortunate long-term results of allowing youngsters to behave badly when they’re still small and cute.

[35:40] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[36:22] The importance of keeping your horse well-trained, especially when later selling or passing your horse on to a new owner.

[43:17] Julie speaks about some of the “aha” moments training riders.

[49:32] Things that riders consistently do with their horses that can irk trainers.

[54:20] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[55:22] The unfortunate situation of a rider who’s not properly trained or nurturing their relationship with their horse.

[58:41] Where to follow Julie Goodnight online and access her training resources.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Horse Master with Julie Goodnight on RFD-TV

Certified Horsemanship Association

Equine Affaire

Julie Goodnight’s How-To DVDs

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

United States Pony Club

Next episode of the Because of Horses podcast

JulieGoodnight.com

BecauseofHorses.com

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Endorsed by Penny Chenery with the use of the great Secretariat’s name and located in the Kentucky Horse Park, Maker’s Mark Secretariat Center is THE gold standard in re-educating and re-homing off-the-track Thoroughbreds.

The Center’s work is essential, considering that more than 20,000 Thoroughbred foals are born each year… but only about half of them even make it to the race track. And of those, only a fraction go on to have successful racing careers. Tragically, more than 10,000 American Thoroughbreds are shipped to slaughter in Canada and Mexico each year.

But this is where Maker’s Mark Secretariat Center makes a profound difference by stepping in to provide as many of these horses as possible the hope and opportunity for a new life and career.

Listen to this important episode with Executive Director Susanna Thomas to learn about the Center’s history, its incredible work, and especially, the horses.

And if you’re thinking about a new horse, think about this: not only are the Center’s horses registered Thoroughbreds in their prime, they are also impeccably trained — some of the world’s top equestrian competitors donate their time to work with these horses… often taking their favorite home to join their own stables.

Topics of Discussion:

[:21] About Elise’s guest today.

[1:31] Susanna explains how the idea for the Secretariat Center originated.

[2:25] How the horses wind up at the Secretariat Center.

[5:42] Susanna explains how she first developed the horse re-schooling program, as well as how it functions day-to-day.

[15:41] Susanna describes what “hill topping” is in fox hunting.

[18:32] With the limited amount of space and huge need, how does Susanna assess which horses are best suited for the program and which ones they have to, unfortunately, turn down?

[24:40] The opportunities the Center provides to its horses and their incredibly successful outcomes.

[31:35] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[32:18] Susanna explains the adoption process and how they make that perfect match between a horse and potential adopter.

[39:57] How Susanna and the Center help to ensure the success of the match, post-adoption, through the Thoroughbred Makeover program, the Clean Start program, and the Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance.

[46:24] Elise and Susanna speak about the increasing popularity of Thoroughbreds.

[50:08] How Susanna and the Center want to help bring the Thoroughbred “back.”

[51:52] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[53:03] How Susanna joined the Center and what the experience has been like for her.

[59:47] How listeners can learn more about the Center, including visiting and even adopting a horse.

[1:01:03] The Center also provides a wide variety of fantastic programs, resources, and tours!

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Maker’s Mark Secretariat Center

Maker’s Mark Secretariat Center Facebook page

Maker’s Mark Secretariat Center Phone #859-246-3080

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

Thoroughbred Makeover program

Clean Start program

Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance

The Jockey Club
Retired Racehorse Project

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

The Horse Master (TV show)

Visit Horse Country

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Everyone who loves riding knows the best view in the world is the one from your saddle. That’s why social media sensation Kristine Dahms created the wildly popular Life Between the Ears.

Having taken some time off to focus on her career, Kristine felt the increasing allure of horses and returned to riding in her 40s. The view was so beautiful from her horse’s back that she began taking and posting photos online... and her Instagram and Facebook pages exploded, with tens of thousands of riders all over the world sending her photos of their own.

Life Between the Ears now provides a thriving and beautiful equestrian community that defies geography, cultures, politics, and languages, and simply brings everyone together through their shared love of horses.

In this episode, Kristine talks all about Life Between the Ears — why she believes it resonates with so many people, her favorite photos, how and why she started the endeavor, the most exotic locations Kristine has seen so far, and how she selects which photos she will post. Kristine also talks about her supportive husband, a Pulitzer Prize-nominated photographer; her graphic design business, Twist Design; and how she unites her love of horses and of design through Life Between the Ears.

Topics of Discussion:

[:20] About Elise’s episode today with Kristine.

[:53] How Kristine started Life Between the Ears and why she believes it resonates with so many people.

[4:17] At what point did Kristine realize the potential of Life Between the Ears?

[6:10] An easier way to listen to Because of Horses.

[7:05] Elise’s and Kristine’s wonderfully supportive brothers who are very aware of their sisters’ horse addictions!

[7:48] Is Kristine’s husband interested in horses, too?

[9:24] The funny story of how Kristine navigated her way into getting her first horse after her husband’s and her move to the Pacific Northwest.

[11:22] The story of Kristine’s first time riding in decades and the unfortunate aftermath.

[15:19] About Kristine’s first horse, Baloo.

[16:26] About one of Kristine’s favorite photos.

[19:20] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[20:02] What are some of the most exotic or furthest locations Kristine has seen so far, from her Life Between the Ears Facebook group?

[21:29] Are there any locations that have surprised Kristine?

[24:22] Has Kristine put together a bucket list based on the photos she has been sent? Where has she traveled?

[26:19] How does Kristine select the photos she uses? How do people send them in?

[28:38] About Kristine’s successful and talented husband, the photographer, and his thoughts on Life Between the Ears.

[30:15] How Kristine and her husband met and fell in love through their mutual love of photography.

[31:55] About next week’s episode on Because of Horses.

[33:03] Kristine speaks about her design work for Life Between the Ears.

[34:48] Kristine talks about the potential book proposal in the works!

[35:57] What advice would Kristine offer to others with unique ideas and unsure on how to gain an online following?

[40:16] Where to learn more about Life Between the Ears and Kristine’s designs.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Life Between the Ears Website

Life Between the Ears on Instagram

Life Between the Ears on Facebook

Twist Design by Kristine Dahms

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

Equitrekking

“5 Simple Ways to Improve Your Horse Photos,” by Kristine Dahms (on Equitrekking)

Life Between the Ears — Resources

Next week’s Because of Horses episode

Show Your Work! 10 Ways to Share Your Creativity and Get Discovered, by Austin Kleon

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Elise’s guest today is Elizabeth Letts, the #1 New York Times bestselling author of several novels and two phenomenal horse books: The Eighty-Dollar Champion, which was the winner of the 2012 Daniel P Lenehan Award for Media Excellence from the United States Equestrian Foundation; and The Perfect Horse, which won the 2017 PEN Literary Award for Research Nonfiction.

The Eighty-Dollar Champion chronicles the inspiring, true story of destitute immigrant Harry DeLeyer and Snowman, the slaughter-bound plow horse he rescued. Together, Harry and Snowman won post World War II America’s heart by climbing in two short years to the very top of the elite world of show jumping. This beloved pair later appeared on TV shows, the cover of Life magazine, and traveled the world together, giving exhibitions and meeting their devoted fans.

Elizabeth’s book, The Perfect Horse, shares the gripping World War II behind-enemy-lines, true story of a small troop of battle-weary American soldiers saving priceless Lipizzan stallions from imminent death.

As a lifelong equestrian, Pony Club graduate, and phenomenally gifted writer, Elizabeth is the ideal person to tell these two amazing stories. So compelling are they – and so beautifully written – that these books are a treat for horse lovers and non-horse lovers alike.

In this episode, Elizabeth recounts her days writing both books and shares the stories Harry told her about himself and Snowman, the pivotal moments in his life, what it was like interviewing him, and how he described his own relationship with Snowman and what it meant to him. Elizabeth also gives a quick sneak preview of two of her upcoming books!

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] About Elise’s guest today, Elizabeth Letts.

[1:00] How did Elizabeth originally learn about Harry and Snowman’s story? What about it led her to write her book?

[7:15] The amazing story of how Harry saved Snowman from a kill buyer’s truck and understanding why he did it.

[17:54] Pivotal moments in Harry’s life and what it was like interviewing him.

[21:53] Elizabeth retells the story of when Harry, at one point, sold Snowman because his family needed the money — and how Snowman remarkably found his way back home!

[24:56] Elizabeth tells her own “running home” story, similar to Snowman and Harry’s!

[26:04] Elizabeth recounts how the horse world first received Harry and Snowman when they began competing.

[29:27] How did Harry describe his relationship with Snowman and what it meant to him?

[32:33] Elizabeth discusses Harry and Snowman’s remarkable talent and relationship.

[35:02] What the world was like back in the 1950s and why the public embraced Harry and Snowman’s story so wholeheartedly.

[37:25] How Elizabeth originally heard about the story that inspired her book, The Perfect Horse, and what she learned as she wrote it.

[40:09] Elizabeth talks about the people behind the true story.

[44:36] What the experience was like to write The Perfect Horse.

[48:47] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[49:08] Elizabeth’s experience writing The Perfect Horse and what she feels telling the story of these horses (and the acts of bravery surrounding them) accomplishes today.

[55:17] How Elizabeth feels when her work is nominated for awards and added to the list of children’s favorites around the world.

[58:28] The recognition and awards for The Eighty-Dollar Champion and about the possible upcoming feature film.

[1:00:24] How it felt to hit #1 New York Times bestselling author list -- not once, but twice!

[1:01:29] About Elizabeth’s new novel coming out soon, Finding Dorothy, and where to find all of her other novels and follow her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Eighty-Dollar Champion: Snowman, The Horse That Inspired a Nation, by Elizabeth Letts

The Perfect Horse: The Daring U.S. Mission to Rescue the Priceless Stallions Kidnapped by the Nazis, by Elizabeth Letts

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

To Tell the Truth (TV show)

Who Do You Trust? (TV show)

Life (magazine)

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Horse Show Jumping Triple Crown

Walter Farley

Marguerite Henry
Finding Dorothy, by Elizabeth Letts

ElizabethLetts.com

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What are the top things equine business owners should be doing to grow our business? How do we convert mildly interested non-horsepeople into enthusiastic riders? Wondering if you should move your hobby farm into a working farm, but not sure how to do it?

Get a pen and lots of paper to take notes as the legendary Patti Colbert shares the wisdom and insight her marketing clients went on a waiting list to access, but you get free on Because of Horses!

An icon in the horse world, a senior leader in some of our most respected organizations, and a wildly successful marketing executive specializing in equine businesses -- few can match Patti's level of expertise and the generosity with which she shares her knowledge.

Internationally renowned for her leadership and tireless efforts in developing programs to attract new people and grow the industry, just a few of Patti’s accomplishments include: Extreme Mustang Makeover creator; Senior Director, AQHA Foundation; Executive Director, Mustang Heritage Foundation; board member for the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame, American Quarter Horse Association, and the American Stock Horse Association; recipient of the Equine Industry Vision Award; named one of “The Top 15 Westerners to Watch” by American Cowboy magazine — and so much more!

In this fascinating episode, Patti details how equestrians can enhance their own horse business by going beyond the over-used reliance on horse-crazy kids and reaching out to newcomers and non-horse people alike — and the importance of connecting within their communities to partner with one another. She also talks about her behind-the-scenes – often hilarious – experiences with the Extreme Mustang Makeover, the TV show “Project Cowboy,” creating the American Horse Council’s “Time to Ride” initiative, and many others.

Topics of Discussion:

[:19] Elise introduces her guest, Patti Colbert.

[1:32] Patti tells the story of how she got started down this path and how her love of horses began.

[5:11] Patti’s efforts to make the horse world more accessible and help bring more people in.

[13:06] Patti’s recommendations to equine business owners that not only want to survive but thrive in this increasingly modern and technological world.

[18:48] How Patti translates our passion for horses to non-horse people so they can enjoy and understand it, too.

[25:17] The Extreme Mustang Makeover and some amazing stories that have come from it.

[32:01] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[33:03] About the Bureau of Land Management.

[34:56] The challenges and opportunities for horse-related businesses to connect (and market to) the three types of potential clients: baby-boomers, millennials, and Generation X.

[43:11] Meaningful experiences from Patti’s stellar career.

[49:08] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses with Elizabeth Letts.

[50:40] What it has been like for Patti to be riding lately, instead of her usual behind-the-scenes work.

[55:20] Parting words and advice from Patti.

[55:43] Resources Patti recommends.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Extreme Mustang Makeover

AQHA

Mustang Heritage Foundation

National Cowgirl Hall of Fame

American Stock Horse Association

Texas QHA

American Cowboy magazine

American Horse Council

American Horse Council’s Time to Ride initiative

Equine Industry Vision Award

Dale Evans (actor)

Elizabeth Taylor (actor)

National Velvet (film)

OPI “Instinct of Color” (nail polish horse commercial)

Extreme Home Makeover

Bureau of Land Management (BLM)

Because of Horse’s Lufthansa Cargo’s Frankfurt Animal Lounge episode with Sabine Grebe

Lufthansa Cargo’s Frankfurt Animal Lounge

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses with Elizabeth Letts

Stock Horse Association of Texas

The Right Horse Initiative

Because of Horse’s episode with The Right Horse Initiative’s Christie Schulte Kappert

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This special episode of the Because of Horses podcast concludes the first season... and it is with great pleasure that we do so with this very special conversation about philanthropy, inspiration, and kindness.

The Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund is a private philanthropic fund established to improve the lives of children with special needs; enable access to education; and provide care, compassion, and protection to animals.

Elise’s guests are Lindsay Maxwell, the founder of the Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund, and Bill Rube, the fund’s Executive Director. Created in 2016 and inspired by the loss of Lindsay’s beloved brother, Benjamin, the fund also beautifully expresses Lindsay’s desire to give back to the industry that gave her and countless other riders the opportunity to pursue their passion for horses.

Join Elise, Lindsay, and Bill, for a truly inspirational experience.

Topics of Discussion:

[:47] About concluding this year’s first season of the Because of Horses podcast.

[1:08] Elise introduces her guests this week, Lindsay Maxwell and Bill Rube.

[2:02] The beautiful inspiration that Lindsay’s brother, Benjamin, provided for their family’s philanthropic endeavors; how he has inspired their mission statement; and how the fund continues to fulfill these goals of providing support for at-risk, underserved, and special needs children.

[3:33] Lindsay speaks about her passion for charity horse shows and equestrian events that really align with her fund.

[6:20] About Bill Rube’s accomplished background with USHJA.

[6:58] What initially drew Bill Rube to join the Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund as Executive Director.

[8:53] Lindsay’s perspective on why Bill is the ideal Executive Director for her fund.

[11:20] Lindsay and Bill share stories about supporting young, under-funded, junior riders.

[16:50] About the amazing grant the fund provides in helping young riders attend the WHIS Equitation Finals.

[21:36] Lindsay and Bill address the concern that the number of equestrians aging out in the industry seems higher than the number of young equestrians coming into it.

[26:12] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[27:10] The importance of adults in a young rider’s life in terms of horsemanship and living, how Lindsay’s trainers have helped her to appreciate the people behind the scenes, and the young riders she’s helping to support.

[33:03] Did Bill Rube come from an equestrian family? How did his passion come to be?

[40:29] Lindsay talks about her wonderful horses and the amazing support system she has.

[44:25] About next week’s episode of Because of Horses, Season 2.

[45:45] What Lindsay and Bill want listeners to know about the Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund

Keswick Horse Show

University of Virginia Children’s Hospital

United States Hunter Jumper Association (USHJA)

Because of Horses Facebook Page

Virginia Horse Center Foundation

WIHS Equitation Finals Grant

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

The United States Pony Club

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund on Facebook

Lindsay Maxwell Charitable Fund on Instagram

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Elise’s guest today is Dr. Roly Owers, CEO of World Horse Welfare, based in the United Kingdom, but engaged worldwide to improve horses’ well-being. Roly is a veterinary surgeon and was a member of the Royal Army Veterinary Corps, which included a posting overseeing the care of Queen Elizabeth’s Horse Guards as the Veterinary Officer at the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment in London.

World Horse Welfare was founded in 1927 as a campaigning organization to prevent the export of live British horses for slaughter. In the decades since, WHW’s work has been crucial in improving the lives of horses around the globe through education, lobbying for legal reform and protection, research, investigations, and re-homing. Issues the WHW tackles include responsible use of horses in sport, improvement of working horses’ living conditions, sustainable animal husbandry practices, and public awareness and advocacy.

In today’s episode, Dr. Roly Owers takes us through the organization’s origins and how it has evolved, his previous duties as a Veterinary Officer for Queen Elizabeth’s horses, the core principles of WHC and how they continue to impact the organization’s endeavors, WHC’s efforts in both third-world and first-world countries, and of course, all the amazing things WHC has accomplished for equines around the world.

Topics of Discussion:

[:48] All about Elise’s guest, Dr. Roly Owers.

[1:32] Roly shares the organization’s origins and how it has evolved through the years.

[3:07] Roly speaks about his previous duties as a Veterinary Officer at the Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment.

[4:59] The four core principles the World Horse Welfare program was founded upon and how they continue to guide the organization’s endeavors.

[7:11] About the WHW’s stance on encouraging horse lovers to make a virtue of the many wonderful things people do for — and on behalf of — horses each and every day.

[9:45] Rory explains the distinction between utilizing horses rather than “using” them.

[14:15] How WHC finds the balance in educating those who depend on horses for their income (in developing countries), and the needs and well-being of the horses.

[20:57] Rory paints a picture of some of the issues for horses and horse owners that are unique to developing countries.

[24:31] Equine issues that are specific to first-world countries.

[28:29] The challenge of using the internet to seek welfare advice on horses.

[32:13] Wonderful happy-ending stories from WHC’s efforts and the work they do.

[35:57] What it means to Rory and the WHC to have such an admired equestrian as HRH Princess Anne as their President.

[38:36] How WHC’s partnerships with legendary equestrians around the world help engage other equestrians to understand their efforts and activities.

[41:10] How the WHC addresses such a broad scope of equine issues (from their well-being to the integrity of equine-based sports).

[43:30] About Elise’s guests on next week’s Because of Horses!

[44:34] How WHC and Rory find the balance from a communications/social media perspective between public outrage and deep caring, while also maintaining a positive perspective and elevating that as well.

[50:46] What Rory would like listeners to know about horse welfare in general and WHC.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

World Horse Welfare

Because of Horses Facebook Page

Horse & Hound

Ian Stark

Zara Tindall

Next week on Because of Horses

Princess Anne, the Princess Royal

Queen Elizabeth

Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment: Trusted Guardians of the Monarch

Horse Guards

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Elise’s guest today is Pulitzer Prize-winning, New York Times National Reporter, David Philipps. David’s book, Wild Horse Country, tells the fascinating and complex story of the Mustang, from its prehistoric ancestors in North America to its current controversy and possible future. Even those who are knowledgeable about Mustangs and the American West’s history will be surprised by the huge gaps in information David shares.

While not a horse person himself, David does hold dear the notion of wildness and liberty — fully appreciating the symbolism and emotion associated with the Mustang, but without any preconceptions. A Pulitzer Prize winner and noted journalist, he truly is the perfect person to explore the varied perspectives of all of those involved in this complex and costly dilemma — as well as potential solutions. In his book, Wild Horse Country, David provides a balanced exploration of the Mustang’s history, current situation, and potential future. He describes his book as a celebration of still having wild horses in this technological day and age, as well as the story of how that happened — the history, the values, and the myths around these horses.

In this episode, David fully explores these ideas with Elise -- diving deep into his own explorations, explaining what he has learned in his observations and research, and his perspective on the many entangled topics that involve the wild Mustang.

Topics of Discussion:

[:46] About today’s guest and the topic of discussion.

[2:55] How did we get to the point of spending millions annually to store tens of thousands of horses?

[5:10] David’s experience at a Bureau of Land Management gather.

[7:22] What started David on this journey.

[10:04] David explains what a roundup is and his experience at his first one.

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[14:09] How David’s actual observations differed from what some of the information he had been given.

[15:50] What is the land of the Wild Horse Country (as described in David’s book) like?

[21:02] BLM’s role in managing Mustangs and how they differentiate between horses that are under their management and horses that are not?

[23:20] How do you know where a horse is born?

[24:13] David’s findings on the argument that Mustangs should not be protected because they’re not a native species.

[30:41] How is it not common knowledge that the Mustangs were hunted almost to extinction, just like the American buffalo?

[35:50] David explains the sad transition of the Mustang being viewed as a valuable resource to being killed in the thousands.

[40:06] About the horrors that Phillip M. Chapel perpetrated on horses.

[43:18] David describes the incredibly pivotal moment for the wild Mustangs and how the “Wild Horse Annie” Act happened.

[50:02] How the BLM has attempted to manage wild Mustangs, and David’s observations through his own research and observations.

[54:28] David’s terrifying experience interviewing Tom Davis for his book, Wild Horse Country.

[55:54] The distinction between ranchers and cowboys, and David’s experiences in better understanding the rancher’s perspective.

[1:01:55] A preview of next week’s Because of Horses!

[1:03:03] The beautiful philosophy of the rancher, Joe Fallini, and his rocky experience with the BLM.

[1:06:55] David gives his perspective on controlling wild horse populations and keeping reproduction down.

[1:20:12] David’s hopes and predictions for the Mustang’s future.

[1:23:10] How to follow David online and read his book.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Wild Horse Country: The History, Myth, and Future of the Mustang, by David Philipps

Bureau of Land Management

Because of Horses Facebook Page

United States Pony Club

Young Rider Magazine

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

Velma Johnston (Wild Horse Annie)

Wild Horse Annie Act

The Mustangs, by Frank Dobie

Phillip Chappel

Laura Leigh (Horse Advocate)

Tom Davis

Joe Fallini (Rancher)

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses

PZP Vaccine

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Elise’s guest today on the Because of Horses podcast is Christy Landwehr, CEO of the Certified Horsemanship Association. The CHA was established to promote safety and education throughout the entire horse industry by certifying instructors, accrediting equine facilities, producing educational conferences, and publishing educational resources through a variety of media — all while building a great community of riders and instructors, and keeping it fun!

Christy has been active in the horse industry for over 30 years and has taught children and adults to ride for more than 25 years. She is not only CHA’s CEO, but she’s also a Master Riding Instructor and Equine Facility Manager. She’s taught students in 4-H and Pony Club. She’s also the Colorado Horse Council Secretary, a past President of the American Youth Horse Council, and an AQHA Professional Horseman. Personally and professionally, Christy epitomizes what the CHA stands for.

In this episode, Christy talks about the history of CHA; outlines the programs, certifications, and educational opportunities available from the CHA; shares details from both the perspective of a rider and of an instructor or a manager of an equine facility; why certifications are so important; and about CHA’s upcoming Annual International Conference in Colorado.

Topics of Discussion:

[:47] About Elise’s guest, Christy Landwehr.

[1:42] How CHA got its start.

[3:33] The importance of CHA’s role in certifying instructors.

[6:07] Christy’s own experience in the horse industry and how she became CHA’s CEO.

[11:28] About next week’s episode on Because of Horses.

[12:59] Does Christy ever find herself having to illustrate why certification is so important? Or do people typically “get it?”

[15:59] What do horse-enthusiasts need to know about certification and what to look for when selecting an instructor or lesson barn?

[19:15] About CHA’s different certifications and processes.

[21:29] Some of the reasons why instructors and equine facilities may seek certification from CHA.

[24:05] CHA: more than just a certification program. Christy talks about some of the other certification programs offered and what she would like listeners to know.

[28:07] About season 2 of Because of Horses!

[30:59] The different levels involved in the equine facility manager and site certification.

[36:47] About CHA’s Annual International Conference.

[40:22] Christy’s observations on the concern that older riders are retiring from riding at a rate that seems higher than the number of young riders getting into riding.

[42:52] Where to learn more about CHA and the upcoming conference.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

4-H

Pony Club

Colorado Horse Council

American Youth Horse Council

AQHA

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses with David Philipps

Certified Horsemanship Association

Season 2 of Because of Horses

CHA’s International Annual Conference

NRHA

Polo

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

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Elise’s guests this episode are veterinarian Dr. Tracy Norman and Rosanna McMillan. Dr. Norman works as a vet at the Blue Ridge Equine Clinic. She graduated from the University of Pennsylvania’s School of Veterinary Medicine, completed an internal medicine residency at Texas A&M University, and is board-certified in large animal internal medicine with an equine focus. Elise’s other guest, Rose McMillan, owns White Rock Manor — a retirement facility for horses, in Lexington, Virginia, known for providing quality, individualized care for retired horses.

So often, the horse world is judged through the lens of old age, with some believing that older horses are hard to care for and have more health issues than their younger counterparts. However, Dr. Norman and Rosanna not only shatter these misconceptions, they also share many compelling reasons why older horses may very well be preferred. They make it clear that managing an older horse can be no more complicated than caring for any other equine.

Today’s episode is a three-way panel discussion about owning, enjoying, and managing equine senior citizens — including topics such as nutrition, activity levels, stabling, blanketing, and medical and dental care — as well as what retirement looks like. They also talk about the tough issue of how to and when to say goodbye to your dear horse (or pet), regardless of its age.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guests, Dr. Tracy Norman and Rosanna McMillan.

[2:41] What are the qualities of older horses that owners enjoy so much?

[5:05] Breaking the myth that older horses are higher maintenance.

[8:05] What Dr. Norman and Rosanna wish owners knew before they decide what to do with an older horse.

[13:39] How the equine body ages and how owners can help make their golden years comfortable and great fun.

[17:40] How a horse’s dental needs change as they grow older and the importance of “floating” teeth.

[22:11] How owners know when to make changes in their horse’s tack to continue riding comfortably.

[24:10] Potential signs that indicate pain for horses of all ages.

[26:37] Why knowing your horse as an individual is so important: a story about a particular horse that was almost too good at masking pain.

[32:13] How Cushing’s Disease shows up in horses and some of the ways it can be managed.

[36:18] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[37:38] How owners of older horses can gauge body weight and appropriate fitness levels to ensure their horse is healthy.

[44:59] How does an owner know when it is the right time to retire a horse?

[49:28] When is it time to say goodbye, regardless of age? How do Dr. Norman and Rosanna guide owners through this discussion?

[56:05] A preview of next week’s episode!

[57:13] Giving owners “permission” to say goodbye and helping them make this most difficult decision.

[1:00:32] All about White Rock Manor is like as a retirement (or vacation option) for horses.

[1:05:18] Dr. Norman’s and Rosanna’s favorite resources for senior horses, and where to learn more about Dr. Norman’s practice and Rosanna’s work with White Rock Manor.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Because of Horses Facebook Page

elise@becauseofhorses.com

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

Washington and Lee University

The Virginia Horse Center

White Rock Manor

AAEP

Blue Ridge Equine Clinic

Blue Ridge Equine Clinic on Facebook

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses podcast is the incomparable Mike Loades: expert horseman; British military historian; television host for Discovery; popular presenter at the British Museum; advisor for the video game Assassin’s Creed: Black Flag; multi-published author; fight choreographer for TV, film, and theater; director of several TV specials for National Geographic and the History Channel; advisor on archaeological sites around the world; and historic warfare expert in more than 100 documentaries.

Mike is like a modern-day Indiana Jones – going well beyond lecturing to demonstrate how so many ancient weapons were used, the strategies our ancestors employed, and the horse’s role throughout. Mike makes the most remote history accessible, meaningful, and incredibly intriguing to people today.

In this episode, Mike talks about the fun of sharing history in entertaining and informative ways; what the modern rider should know about our ancestors’ skills and relationship with horses; Mike’s favorite topics and time periods; what he thinks about Game of Thrones, Gladiator, and the Lord of the Rings trilogy; and of course, all about his intriguing career -- from demonstrating horse archery and fighting with two swords at once, to our historic relationship with horses from the beginning of recorded time to today.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest, Mike Loades.

[1:24] What it is like for Mike to make history accessible and engaging, and how he created his unique and intriguing career.

[4:23] What do modern riders need to know about horsemanship in the ancient past?

[13:45] Mike talks Elise through a video demonstration where he rides without tack and performs archery at top speed, as well as other archery techniques like the incredibly difficult Parthian shot.

[21:28] About Mike’s work advising on the video game Assassin’s Creed, as well as demonstrating fighting and wielding weapons from horseback.

[24:35] Does it ever strike Mike as ironic that modern technology is utilized to share his extensive knowledge of archaic topics?

[30:25] About Elise’s book, A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons.

[32:12] About Mike’s breadth of knowledge, his favorite topics and time periods, and how he applies his knowledge and skills to his job.

[36:37] How Mike choreographs fights and training actors to fight with ancient weapons, when most people have only ever seen them in museums or in books.

[41:54] Mike’s favorite (and least favorite) film depictions of horses in battle.

[46:21] Mike explains the evolution of chariots and mounted soldiers in battle, and how our ancestors went from harnessing horses to riding them in battle.

[52:43] Did the tweaking and breeding of horses begin way back when they were being used in warfare?

[57:32] About Elise’s guests on next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[58:22] Mike speaks about the utilization of horses in warfare, both in ancient times and as recently as 2012 by US Special Forces in Afghanistan.

[1:08:53] Where to find Mike and his work online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Because of Horses Facebook Page

Mike Loades’ Horse Archery Video

Mike Loades’ Books Page

A Parent’s Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Chand

MikeLoades.com

The Official Mike Loades Facebook Page

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Elise’s guest today is Sabine Grebe, Lufthansa Cargo’s Animal Lounge Chief, at the Frankfurt International Airport in Germany.

As the gateway for most horses going into Germany and Europe, as well as those leaving Europe for international travel, Lufthansa Cargo’s Frankfurt Animal Lounge handles horses of all breeds, disciplines, and training — from elite FEI and Olympic equine competitors to wild Mustangs, fresh off the range. More than 2,000 horses are transported in and out of Frankfurt every year — and, in addition to that, Sabine and staff are also taking care of over 15,000 pets, 80 million fish, and 150 zoo animals... including tigers.

From riding in full cowboy regalia in a Bandera, Texas, Memorial Day parade to providing meticulous and knowledgeable care for all of the animals in her charge, Sabine's story is fun and fascinating. So, if you've ever thought about shipping a horse by air — even if you're just wondering how it's done — this is the episode for you.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Sabine Grebe.

[1:18] Sabine shares the story of when Lufthansa handled a herd of wild Mustangs coming from the U.S. into Germany.

[4:20] The reasons why horse owners choose to ship their horses by air.

[5:54] A typical day for Sabine and the staff at the Animal Lounge.

[9:00] What the experience is like for Sabine to see the many different breeds of horses coming through the Animal Lounge.

[10:32] Sabine’s experience seeing the world’s top competitive horses and reiners coming in.

[13:08] About the American Quarter Horse’s popularity in Germany.

[15:00] Sabine’s special experience of riding in a Memorial Day weekend parade in Bandera, Texas.

[16:41] What are the traits, experiences, and backgrounds Lufthansa looks for in hiring potential staff?

[19:53] What is the process of shipping horses?

[23:20] Sabine explains how hygiene is managed daily when shipping horses.

[25:18] About the standards for groomers who stay with the horses during travel.

[28:37] How Lufthansa handles horses that may not get along with each other.

[30:42] Are some containers bigger depending on the horse breed or gender?

[31:17] A preview of next week’s episode.

[32:26] How pilots modify the way they fly when they’re carrying horses.

[33:00] Some of Sabine’s most memorable experiences.

[34:33] What Sabine thinks you should know as an owner looking to ship your horse.

[35:54] How did Sabine originally become involved with horses?

[37:00] How Sabine came to join Lufthansa.

[39:35] How to find out more about Lufthansa’s services.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Lufthansa Cargo’s Frankfurt Animal Lounge

American Mustang Germany

Because of Horses Facebook Page

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Where do horses go when they’re no longer wanted? And what resources exist to help owners when they can no longer keep their horses or they need to be retired?

Rather than think of these horses collectively as “unwanted,” The Right Horse Initiative views them as being in transition and simply needing a new purpose. And that’s where this wonderful collection of horse industry leaders, organizations, and veterinarians step in.

Elise’s guest today is Christie Schulte Kappert, Program Officer for The Right Horse Initiative. The initiative’s goal is to massively increase the number of successful horse adoptions in the US by reframing the adoption conversation and shattering the stigma surrounding horses in transition. As well, the initiative is focused on providing more resources to horse owners within their own communities to help with health issues, re-homing, training, and even end-of-life assistance.

In this Because of Horses episode, Elise and Christie talk about what has historically happened to horses in these kinds of situations, how The Right Horse Initiative is assisting equine adoption, and what they've learned from watching pet adoption practices evolve. Christie also explains how The Right Horse Initiative got started, what it means to her to be part such a fantastic organization, how and who the initiative is partnering with to help further their goal, and where she sees the future of the initiative heading.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Christie Schulte Kappert.

[2:14] Christie explains what the organization means by “horses in transition,” as well as what the historical outcome has been for horses in this situation.

[5:50] Christie explains what isn’t working very well in equine adoption currently and how can we recraft the conversation around adopting horses.

[12:42] How did The Right Horse Initiative get started?

[16:21] What it means to Christie to be a part of this initiative.

[19:44] How their initiative is going so far in partnering with regional and national organizations to re-train and move horses into placement opportunities.

[26:49] Christie speaks about the status of programs that help to re-train horses in transition and help owners find their “perfect” horse.

[30:10] The types of resources the initiative has in place to help horse owners in need.

[41:24] Christie talks about one of their partners: Time to Ride.

[45:00] Elise gives a preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[45:40] Christie talks about the importance of The Right Horse Initiative’s collaboration within the horse industry and the programs that help with this unification. She also shares some success stories from working hand-in-hand with the horse industry.

[52:05] What Christie sees as the future for horses in transition.

[54:32] How listeners can learn more about the initiative and/or adopt a horse.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

The Right Horse Initiative

The Right Horse Initiative: How to Help

The Right Horse Initiative Blog

WaterShed Animal Fund

Arnall Family Foundation

Because of Horses Facebook Page

Colorado State University Temple Grandin Equine Center

Dumb Friends League Harmony Equine Center

Certified Horsemanship Association
Dr. Temple Grandin

1-Day Open Door Shelter

Horse Plus Humane Society

SPCA of Texas

Time to Ride

New Vocations Racehorse Adoptions Program

The US Pony Club

My Right Horse

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Before the cheering throngs at Churchill Downs or Belmont or Saratoga watch young Thoroughbred racehorses charge from the starting gates, Shelley Bunning and her team at Timber Town Stables welcomed many of them into the world as newborn foals.

One of the youngest female Farm Managers at one of the greatest Thoroughbred racing broodmare operations in the US, Elise’s guest today is Shelley Bunning. Known for her utter devotion to the horses in her care and for her expertise, professionalism, and her readiness to mentor others, Shelley still retains the wonder of a former horse-crazy girl as she oversees multi-million dollar racing mares like Havre de Grace, Plum Pretty, Songbird, and Groupie Doll.

As a young girl in England, Shelley knew that she wanted to work with horses and understood that it would take hard work, dedication, and an unrelenting drive to learn. At 16, she left home and took a job in a Newmarket racing yard handling young Thoroughbreds born, bred, and trained to run.

This episode, Shelley talks about her experience at Timber Town Stables, working with the racing world’s finest multi-million dollar broodmares, what it’s like to foal out and raise champions like Belmont winner Tonalist, and how it feels to watch "her” young horses race for the first time. Join Shelley and Elise as they explore the heart-warming and often exhausting broodmare and foaling side of Thoroughbred racing.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Shelley Bunning.

[1:26] What it’s like for Shelley to go to work every day working with multi-million dollar racehorses and their foals.

[2:22] What Shelley believes drove her certainty and passion from a young age to work with horses.

[5:12] Shelley’s experience moving from England to the US and her recommendations for young women with the same interest.

[8:26] Are there things that women bring to the horse industry that are sometimes overlooked?

[10:26] The importance of networks such as KEMI and TWN for young women who want a career with horses.

[13:42] Elise shares listener feedback!

[16:42] Shelley explains the CAEP trainee program (that took her to Timber Town Stables) and what her experience was like.

[21:50] Shelley talks about the personalities of the horses at Timber Town Stables.

[24:36] Elise shares a funny story from when she was a student working with horses.

[25:46] What it’s like to lead, handle, and work with horses worth many millions each.

[29:20] What a typical day is like during foaling season and the rest of the year.

[35:46] Foals that have made an impression on Shelley.

[37:40] What it’s like for Shelley to see the horses that she’s foaled run on the race track for the first time.

[42:55] The pleasure Shelley has had working with her equally dedicated coworkers.

[45:24] Elise shares a preview of next week’s episode.

[46:44] Where to learn more about Timber Town Stables.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Timber Town Stables

Timber Town Stables’ Social Media: Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter

The Kentucky Equine Management Internship Program (KEMI)

BOH Episode 37 with Heather Holderby

BOH Episode 33 with Leslie Janecka

Thoroughbred Women’s Network (TWN)

Because of Horses Facebook Group

CAEP Program

BOH Episode 15 with Brandi Lyons

BOH Episode with Dr. Roly Owers

BOH Episode 41 with Niobe Thompson

Next week’s episode of BOH

The Right Horse Initiative

The U.S. Pony Club

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Riders looking for an added competitive advantage are joining the ranks of nearly every professional sports and Olympic team in incorporating mental training into their regime. Regardless of athletic level – from elite to amateur – athletes recognize that the highest physical achievements can be seriously undermined if your head isn’t in the game.

Discussing this topic with Elise is Dr. Margie Sugarman, a leading board-certified psychotherapist and sports consultant, with an extensive client list that includes Olympic, professional, and amateur athletes across the US.

In this episode, Elise and Margie discuss sports psychology and how it helps athletes of all capabilities increase their competitive performance, both in training and in the arena. Margie also explains how losing can actually be a good thing, how to shift your internal dialogue to improve your results (both in the competitive arena and in day-to-day life), when a drive to win can take a negative turn toward perfectionism, how parents and coaches can work most successfully with young riders, and Margie’s thoughts on the value of pre-performance rituals.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Dr. Margie Sugarman.

[1:50] How Margie describes sports psychology and what’s driving its increasing popularity among professional and amateur athletes.

[3:02] Specific elements and strategies Margie found to be most helpful in working with equestrian athletes.

[4:50] How Margie partners with coaches to help an athlete perform at their best.

[7:48] How young riders, accustomed to competing as an individual, make the adjustment to functioning as a team when they move up in the ranks.

[10:42] How Margie connects with athletes to earn their trust so she can best help them improve their performance, both in and out of the competitive arena.

[13:49] Is there something about the human brain that naturally veers to negative self-talk or is it cultural and taught within society?

[15:26] Is it always wise to “climb right back on the horse,” as the old saying goes?

[21:10] Margie’s thoughts on confidence vs. expectations.

[23:20] How losing can be good for you.

[26:01] How some athletes are able to switch their mental “gears” in order to prevent negativity.

[28:37] How do parents and coaches help young athletes overcome a too-powerful drive to win?

[29:49] How to know when you, as an athlete, have done the right mental preparation and are in the correct frame of mind when entering the arena.

[31:40] How sports psychology is similar to many performance-related issues and day-to-day experiences.

[33:37] How Margie’s counseling helps athletes most, especially in that moment right before they enter the arena.

[35:45] Can pre-performance rituals help?

[40:25] How does a parent or coach help young riders understand that performing well is not based solely on talent, but also on practice, time, and effort?

[46:22] The positive result on society’s views of mental health because elite athletes openly seek sports psychologists’ help.

[53:06] What Margie wished people knew about sports psychology.

[54:55] Where to learn more about Margie’s practice and follow her online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Oklahoma State University Equestrian Team

Stacy Westfall

BOH Episode with Stacy Westfall

Margie’s Business #: (631)-361-7828

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This year, Special Olympics is celebrating its 50th anniversary. It was founded by Eunice Kennedy Shriver in 1968 and continues to provide year-round training and competitive events to five million athletes in 172 countries. Competitions are held every day, all around the world, including local, national, and regional competitions, adding up to more than 100,000 events each year.

Helping to quantify what Special Olympics means to athletes, their families, and volunteers all over the world are Elise's guests: Area 10 Program Director, Alex Hubbard; Stacey Johnson, a Special Olympics gold and bronze medalist, as well as the President of the Athlete Leadership Program, a member of the Special Olympics Torch Run Officers, and a Global Messenger; and Martha Johnson, Stacey’s mom, who is also the Director of Finance at Equest Therapeutic Riding Center in Dallas, Texas.

In this episode, Alex describes his joy to be part of Special Olympics; what the community means to the athletes, volunteers, and their friends and families; and the critical initiatives, above and beyond competition, that help an otherwise under-served segment of the world's population. Martha speaks about the importance of the Special Olympics to her and her daughter, and the miracles she has witnessed from therapeutic riding. Stacey talks about being an Olympian and winning gold and bronze medals for her country on the world stage; why she loves horses and competing; and what it means to share with others the incredible joy that is the Special Olympics.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guests today.

[1:57] Alex quantifies what the Special Olympics means to the people’s lives it touches.

[3:55] Alex describes his joy to be part of such this international movement.

[5:48] Martha describes the importance of the Special Olympics to her daughter, Stacey.

[8:13] Stacey talks about her love for horses and how riding has helped her.

[8:55] About Stacey’s accomplishments and the miracles Martha has witnessed through riding.

[14:50] More of the amazing benefits Stacey has gained from the Special Olympics.

[16:33] The other sports in which Stacey competes.

[18:38] About the trip Stacey and Martha are currently on as they record this episode!

[19:05] How much therapeutic riding has helped Stacey and about all their travels to various shows.

[20:57] The happy-tears phone call Martha received from Equest, sharing news of Stacey’s first jump after recovering from surgery!

[25:17] It's much more than "just" competition – Alex talks about Special Olympics initiatives making a huge impact on world health.

[31:04] Elise reads listener feedback!

[32:19] Which issues affecting Special Olympics' community does Alex feel need to be addressed most urgently?

[35:20] How those who work for the Special Olympics help carry and spread their message.

[36:35] Martha outlines ways people can support and encourage athletes.

[38:55] News about the 2019 Special Olympics and what it means to Martha, Stacey, and Alex to know that millions of people are cheering the athletes on.

[42:00] About Stacey’s win in Dublin, Ireland.

[45:24] A touching story that happened with another Equest client.

[46:33] Where to learn more about the Special Olympics and Equest.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Special Olympics Texas

Special Olympics

Equest (#: 972-412-1099)

Because of Horses Episode 12 with Equest Founder, CEO, and Hooves for Heroes Director

Because of Horses Episode 7 with Rupert Isaacson of The Horse Boy Foundation

Hooves for Heroes

The Horse Boy Foundation

Healthy Athletes

Global Messengers

Unified Champion Schools

Eunice Kennedy Shriver (Founder of the Special Olympics)

Tim Shriver (Chairman of the Special Olympics)

Arthur Ashe Courage Award

ESPN

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“Not so long ago, all horses were wild. But then we transformed our world with horse power.”

These are the opening lines of the exciting new three-part film series, “Equus: Story of the Horse,” and internationally renowned Canadian filmmaker, Dr. Niobe Thompson — Elise’s guest on today’s episode of Because of Horses. Niobe is a Cambridge-trained anthropologist; an Emmy-nominated filmmaker who’s won multiple Canadian Screen Awards, Alberta Film Awards, and the Edmonton Film Prize; and self-proclaimed horse lover.

In addition to his fascination with mankind’s evolution, Niobe has discovered that his love for horses is a passion he shares with people all over the world. The resulting film series is a rich, insightful look into the human/horse relationship, how it likely began, and how it’s evolved over time.

In this episode, Niobe takes us through the scientific discoveries made over the course of filming, stories from behind the scenes, and the series' beautiful depiction of our relationship with horses through time.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Dr. Niobe Thompson.

[2:08] How Niobe decided to make his new film series and why horses are special to him.

[5:28] Niobe explains recreating amazing moments from horse history, including “meeting” the first horse, the species’ evolution, and why our ancestors probably began taming horses.

[12:57] Elise reads listener feedback!

[15:04] Surprises and discoveries Niobe made during Equus’ filming.

[17:45] More interesting discoveries from ancient DNA.

[26:12] How the science, cinematography, and cross-cultural complexities came together so seamlessly.

[31:13] An audio preview of the trailer for Equus: The Story of the Horse.

[32:17] Why Niobe believes that the love for horses knows no language, cultural, or even historical boundaries.

[41:57] What Niobe believes to be worrisome in the evolution of horses.

[46:49] A preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[47:20] Why does Niobe think humans keep tinkering with the genetics of horses?

[48:33] What Niobe hopes viewers experience and learn from his film, Equus.

[52:14] Why viewers – even if they aren’t passionate about horses -- will love and appreciate the film, Equus.

[54:43] Where to learn more about Equus and Niobe’s other films.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Trailer for Equus: The Story of the Horse

Because of Horses Episode 14 with Wendy Williams

The Horse: The Epic History of Our Noble Companion, by Wendy Williams

EquustheSeries.com

CBC The Nature of Things

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Elise’s guest today is Dr. Karen Waite, who has an astounding wealth of knowledge on all things horses, competing, and being an equestrian. She is the coordinator of Michigan State University’s Horse Management program and the director of undergraduate education in MSU’s Department of Animal Science. She also serves as the faculty coordinator of MSU’s Horse Teaching and Research Center and as the faculty advisor to the MSU Equestrian team and Horsemen’s Association.

With both teaching and extension appointments, Karen’s responsibilities include managing the Michigan 4-H Horse Judges List and coordinating the Michigan 4-H PEP program for riders with disabilities. On top of all this, Karen is a past president of the American Youth Horse Council, President of the Michigan Quarter Horse Association, and carded judge with POAC.

Education-wise, Karen has Bachelor’s Degrees in Education and Animal Science, a Master’s Degree in Animal Science with a nutrition emphasis, and a Doctoral degree in Sports Psychology, with an emphasis on equestrian sport and activity.

In this episode, Karen talks about her background, her life and work as a professor, her involvement with horses outside of her work, and her plans and hopes for the future. She also gives her recommendations to horse owners and advice and tips from lessons she has learned. Tune in to hear more about Karen’s incredible knowledge and passion for horses.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Karen Waite.

[2:05] How did Karen’s amazing career come together? Did she always know what she wanted to do?

[5:05] Karen’s joy in being able to be involved in what she loves every day.

[8:51] The challenges Karen has endured on her path to pursuing what she loves.

[11:35] Elise reads listener feedback.

[13:39] Elise’s first break and the path that led her to Because of Horses.

[15:52] Karen’s observations when working with students at MSU and the lesson she always passes on when it comes to a career with horses.

[18:43] What it’s like balancing her hobbies and professional life.

[19:56] What topics Karen believes horse owners should be aware of and her recommendations to pursue these topics.

[23:50] Is the extension service the underlying organization for MSU’s new farrier program?

[25:29] More about the new farrier program at MSU and farrier statistics and profession.

[29:35] Elements from Karen’s research of her doctoral dissertation that stood out to her.

[34:56] The importance of putting the care of your horse first in the competing world.

[38:54] Some of the tricks unfair competitors use in horse competitions.

[43:10] A sneak peek of some of the future guests in the coming weeks of Because of Horses.

[45:14] About Karen’s plans and projects for the future.

[47:41] The vast amount of opportunities in the horse industry.

[50:50] Where to follow Karen online.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Michigan State University (MSU)

MSU Horse Teaching and Research Center

MSU Horse Management program

MSU Department of Animal Science

MSU Equestrian Team and Horsemen’s Association

Michigan Quarter Horse Association

My Horse University

Youth Equine Extension program

eXtension Horse Quest

Michigan 4-H PEP Program for riders with disabilities

American Youth Horse Council

POAC

The Black Stallion books

Because of Horses Facebook

Do What You Love, The Money Will Follow: Discovering Your Right Livelihood,

by Marsha Sinetar

Karen Waite’s Blog (OutOfTheBoxStall.com)

KWaite@MSU.Edu (Karen’s email)

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Note from Elise: When the last-minute opportunity arose to revisit a favorite episode, I jumped at the chance since I have wanted to re-share one particular conversation for a while now.

Jessie Haas epitomizes what I hope to express through Because of Horses Podcast: how to be true to yourself and the things that give you joy by creating an intentional life doing what you love most. Jessie takes it to the next level by helping horses, horse owners, and the next generation of writers.

That Jessie is an internationally acclaimed and beloved writer whose books have brought immeasurable happiness to horse-loving children and adults alike? Icing on the karmic cake.

I'm thrilled to say author Jessie Haas is, again, my guest on Because of Horses.

Ask a young child what he or she would like to be when they grow up, and you’ll get an imaginative list that — once they reach adulthood — rarely bears any resemblance to the career they wind up pursuing. But occasionally, you’ll meet someone who is doing exactly what they said they’d do all along..

Author Jessie Haas is a perfect example. She was practically born loving horses, as if it was stamped into her DNA. As a young child, she read every horse book she could get her hands on and would read them over and over again, returning to each with just as much joy as the first time she read it. Her passion for writing blossomed in middle school when she began creating her own horse stories. And, just a month before graduating from college, Jessie’s first book was accepted by one of the most respected U.S. children’s publishers. It was then that Jessie realized she could make a career of writing books about horses, beautifully aligning her two greatest interests.

Now, Jessie lives with her husband, Michael J. Daley — who is also an author — in the house they built together and shares the beautiful Vermont woods with their dogs, cats, and three horses. Jessie is the prolific author of over 35 horse books for children and adults, including Unbroken, Chase, Runaway Radish, the Bramble and Maggie series, and books for the American Girl doll, Saige.

In this episode, Elise chats with Jessie about how her passion for horses has guided her life and the choices she’s made, how and why she began writing, what success means to her, and how she continues to pursue her passion.

Topic of Discussion:

[1:44] How Jessie’s innate love of horses has guided her life

[3:51] The special connection to horses and Jessie’s first, mischievous horse that lent a ‘hoof’ in her approach to writing

[8:11] The parallel between the avid love of reading and writing: how and when Jessie realized she could pursue writing about horses as her profession

[12:15] Jessie speaks about her husband, Michael J. Daley, and what it’s like living with two authors under the same roof

[14:20] What it’s like ‘living off grid’ in their self-built home

[16:59] Details of their quirky, cozy home

[19:39] Art influencing life: The role books have played in Jessie Haas’ life and how her life and experience with horses has influenced her writing

[23:24] An explanation of ‘clicker training’ — a training method that transformed Jessie’s lifelong struggle with horses

[25:46] About some of Jessie’s current horses

[28:18] Jessie’s experience as a ‘serially monogamous horse trainer’

[29:57] Becoming a more cautious rider: The potential possibility of getting hurt on a horse and safety measures

[34:11] Importance of hard hat safety

[36:36] The challenges of children’s story writing and Jessie’s process

[39:26] What it’s like to meet young fans — readers of her books

[42:00] The meaningful experience of connecting with young fans through her writing

[43:05] Reading and writing served as a refuge for Jessie Haas as a young girl.

[44:17] The writers that influence Jessie the most today

[47:09] Defining your life around your passion — Jessie’s perspective

[49:26] The distinction between finding work that is engaging and challenging and genuinely finding a lifelong path

[51:35] Being ‘real’ in your career and life — what it means to Jessie

[53:40] Where realism and passion meet — the extended exercise of writing a story

[55:05] What success means to Jessie

[59:41] Where to find Jessie Haas online

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Jessie Haas

JessieHaas.com

Jessie Haas’ Books

Mentioned in this Episode:

Walter Farley of ‘The Black Stallion’ Series

Jane Austen, Author

Author Michael J. Daley, Jessie Haas’ husband

Marguerite Henry, Author

Terry Pratchett, Author

Dick Francis, Author

Mary O'Hara, Author

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Elise’s guest today, Kevin Kidder, wears many hats; professional photographer, graphic artist, marketing professional, and the Chief Operating Officer of Andalusian World LLC — the organization responsible for the annual Andalusian World Cup in Las Vegas. He has been featured by Time Warner, CNN, The Press-Enterprise, and The Sun for his murals and designs.

But one of Kevin’s most notable accomplishments is his work on behalf of the annual Andalusian World Cup — an ongoing endeavor that truly expresses Kevin's heart, creativity, and his ability to unite people all over the globe on behalf of our beloved horses. The world’s top Iberian horses, trainers, exhibitors, and spectators come from across the globe to this "champion of champions" annual event.

In this episode, Elise and Kevin discuss the Andalusian World Cup in detail — behind the scenes and the work that goes into it, the amazing diversity and cultures represented at the show, the location and dates, what the venue is like, and all about the experience you would have if you were to attend as an exhibitor, attendee, or competitor. They also discuss Kevin’s background, how he manages to juggle his passion for horses and art, and how he became an equestrian photographer.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Kevin Kidder.

[1:43] How does Kevin manage to juggle his passions for horses and art?

[2:15] How did Kevin end up becoming an equestrian photographer?

[3:33] How Kevin captures the distinct energy present in his equestrian photography.

[7:00] How Kevin made his transition from artist, designer, photographer to one of the masterminds behind the annual Andalusian World Cup.

[12:13] Reading listener feedback!

[13:20] The many organizations related to Iberian horses and the amazing event that brings them all together: the Andalusian World Cup.

[14:44] What constitutes an Iberian horse?

[17:58] The type of Iberian horse that would compete in the World Cup.

[20:16] The different cross-breeds of horses that can be recognized as an offshoot of the Iberian horse.

[21:51] Why Kevin believes the Andalusian World Cup is such an important event for Iberian horses and horse lovers worldwide.

[26:02] What it’s been like to see the dream of the Andalusian World Cup come together.

[31:58] The amazing diversity and cultures that are represented because of the show.

[32:26] Kevin’s incredibly moving experience at SICAB.

[35:47] The biggest reason why Kevin puts on this event.

[37:08] The location and dates of the Andalusian World Cup.

[37:36] What the venue for the show is like and why it creates such a draw for exhibitors and attendees.

[40:16] Preview of next week’s Because of Horses with Jonathan Deeley.

[41:17] Everything you need is right there at the Andalusian World Cup for horse lovers, as well as non-equestrian friends and family.

[43:12] How the awards go beyond ribbons for the competitors at the show.

[46:33] How Kevin keeps the family-friendly, inclusive vibe at the Andalusian World Cup.

[49:43] What you need to know when attending the show as an attendee, exhibitor, or competitor.

[51:08] Where to learn more about Kevin’s design business and photography.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Andalusian World Cup

IALHA

PRE Foundation

Azteca Association

SICAB

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses with Jonathan Deeley

Kidder Gallery

Kidder Design

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Elise’s guest today is Heather Holderby, a former intern at the Kentucky Equine Management Internship program (KEMI). KEMI was founded in 2000 to help young people who are interested in a career with horses -- but lack the experience, knowledge, and contacts in the industry -- to get that first break.

Through KEMI, Heather has had experiences with some of the finest Thoroughbreds and professionals in the horse world — including working at Ashford Stud, where she was among the lucky few to welcome Triple Crown winner American Pharoah straight off the trailer from winning the Breeder's Cup. She also worked at Timber Town Stables for the renowned Shelley Bunning, helping foal out such legends as Havre de Grace, Groupie Doll, and Unrivaled Belle.

In Episode 33 of Because of Horses, Elise interviewed KEMI’s program coordinator, Leslie Janecka, who told us all about the program’s structure, eligibility requirements, and what the program entails. This episode, Heather gives us a former intern's inside look into the program and tells us all about her personal experiences, from enrollment to graduation and what she's doing now.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Heather Holderby.

[1:42] How did Heather first learn about KEMI? What drew her to the program?

[3:29] How long was Heather at KEMI?

[3:40] How Heather’s feelings about the horse industry evolved during her time with KEMI.

[5:22] Where did Heather work during her internship and what was the selection process like?

[8:03] Elise’s surprise fan interaction!

[9:05] Do you have a favorite episode? Or recommendations for a guest in a future episode? Email Elise: elise@becauseofhorses.com!

[9:28] A typical day in the classroom and on the farm for Heather.

[11:50] Heather’s experience working with foal legends such as Havre de Grace, Groupie Doll, and Unrivaled Belle.

[14:03] What it was like working with Shelley Bunning at Timber Town Stables?

[16:02] How her KEMI experience laid a phenomenal foundation for Heather's current plans and her future career.

[17:01] Heather's thoughts on some day returning to Lexington, Kentucky.

[19:03] Heather’s advice for those considering applying to KEMI.

[20:49] All about the busy life of a KEMI intern.

[22:17] Does Heather stay in touch with other graduates of the KEMI program? What careers are her former classmates pursuing now?

[23:29] A preview of next week’s episode of Because of Horses.

[25:12] Heather’s take on the tradition of “working your way up” in the horse world.

[27:04] Heather’s last thoughts on the KEMI program.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI)

Next week’s episode of Because of Horses with Kevin Kidder

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Elise’s guest today is Sonya Spaziani, also known as “Mustang Meg.” She is a mustang and wild burro advocate who is renowned for her work to educate the public on the status of these animals in the American West.

Currently, 75,000 wild horses and burros are caught in political, emotional, and environmental controversy. Another 45,000 are held in government holding pens, costing the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) nearly $50 million annually. It is estimated that there are more wild horses in captivity now than exist in the wild — with more round-ups scheduled regularly. Wild horse advocacy has become one of the largest grassroots efforts in U.S. history — a touchpoint for horse enthusiasts, conservationists, ranchers, and even politicians.

In the midst of this volatility, Mustang Meg is respected not only for her expertise but also for her willingness to partner, as a steadfast advocate, with all sides on behalf of the horses she so devotedly works to protect.

In this episode, Elise and Sonya discuss sustainable solutions for managing and taking care of wild horses, the status of fertility control, land management and herd management, how to help horses in long-term holding facilities, and Sonya’s predictions and hopes for the future of wild mustangs and burros.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today.

[1:41] What should people know about wild mustangs?

[4:23] Some stories of the special horses Sonya has witnessed from her research out on the field.

[10:31] What keeps Sonya going through the rough conditions she endures for field research and photos.

[13:51] The measure of success wild horse advocates, ranchers, Oregon BLM representatives have accumulated in behalf of mustangs.

[17:40] How does Sonya think we find a common place from which to have a reasonable dialogue and does she think there’s a sustainable solution that everyone can accept?

[21:37] Reading listener feedback!

[23:29] The status of fertility control and why wild horses cannot always be darted with PZP (birth control).

[28:37] Is there a reason why gelding stallions has not been brought to the conversations of fertility control?

[32:20] Does Sonya foresee a point in time where we might not have wild horses left because of all of the increase in horses being held in government holding pens?

[33:45] All about the complicated issues that come with land management and herd management.

[40:53] Is the BLM the primary resource for determining the status of the mustang’s well-being? To what degree do advocates partner with them to ensure this?

[42:52] What can we do to help horses in the long-term holding facilities? Is there a plan going forward?

[49:28] Rachel’s insight into ranchers, corporations, and grazing on public land.

[53:58] A preview of next week’s Because of Horses.

[55:11] Sonya’s predictions and hopes for the future of wild mustangs and burros.

[1:00:21] Where to learn more about the status of wild mustangs and burros and follow Sonya online.

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MustangMeg.com

Mentioned in this Episode:

Bureau of Land Management

Herd Management Areas

Extreme Mustang Makeover

BOH Episode 33 with Leslie Janecka

Wild Horse and Burro Program
American Wild Horse Campaign

The Cloud Foundation

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Elise’s guest today is Cowboy poet laureate and published author, Charles “Smokey” Culver. Charles has written over 500 poems and his most recent book — A Wrap and a Hooey — was nominated as the cowboy poetry book of the year. Beyond his poetry, Charles is an expert witness in court cases, a volunteer worker at Habitat for Horses, an avid photographer, and a singer and songwriter.

Charles main passion -- cowboy poetry -- is a form of poetry that first grew out of a tradition created by cowboys and hands working on cattle drives and ranches. After a long, hard day of work, they would gather around a campfire and entertain one another with tall tales and folk songs.

This episode, Charles “Smokey” Culver tells us all about cowboy poetry, the cowboy lifestyle, and the Cowboy Code; his range of passions and the work he does outside of writing; his life philosophies; and some of the many reasons he loves poetry. Charles also recites several of his poems ... from beautiful, to nostalgic, to absolutely hilarious — he can do it all.

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today.

[1:12] What is “cowboy poetry?”

[2:30] Why Charles thinks the cowboy lifestyle is still thriving and what attracts new poetry fans.

[3:39] What about cowboy poetry lends itself so well to music?

[4:50] The themes that resonate with Charles.

[6:59] Charles shares one of his favorite poems.

[8:10] Reading listener feedback!

[9:31] The opportunity for connection through sharing cowboy poetry.

[10:50] Why Charles believes that the stories told in cowboy poetry still resonate with people in modern society.

[14:58] What Charles loves about the Cowboy Code.

[17:45] About Charles’s work as an expert witness in court cases.

[19:12] About Charles’s regular volunteer work at Habitat for Horses.

[20:20] Where Charles’s philosophy on life came from.

[21:55] Where does Charles get his overabundance of creativity?

[23:32] What drew Charles to poetry when he was a young teenager?

[24:40] A poem Charles wrote about cowboys’ sensitive, loving nature.

[26:40] A preview of next week’s episode.

[28:04] The hilarious side of cowboy poetry: Charles shares a funny poem, told at his own expense.

[31:27] Performances and venues that have stood out to Charles.

[32:35] Advice Charles would give to prospective poets.

[34:02] Where to find Charles’ work and his upcoming events.

[34:34] Charles’ final thoughts on poetry and life, in general.

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Bobwire Poetry by Smokey Culver (Facebook Page)

Mentioned in this Episode:

Cowboy Poetry Week

National Cowboy Poetry Gathering

Habitat for Horses

A Wrap and a Hooey, by Smokey Culver

Next week’s Because of Horses

Bobwire Poetry by Smokey Culver (Facebook Page)

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses is Sofia Valenca and her father, Master Luis Valenca. The Valenca family name is known throughout Portugal (and the world) for its legendary horsemanship and for the family’s gorgeous equestrian center, with its focus on continuing the centuries-old Portuguese Equestrian Art.

Sofia has spent her life traveling the world, performing in the Gala of the Royal Horses, Equitana, and the Apasionata, to name just a few. She also manages her family’s equestrian center just outside Lisbon, Portugal, and oversees their Valenca Equestrian Tours.

Master Luis Valenca apprenticed under the incomparable Master Nuno Oliveira, as well as Master da Cunha Menezes, Portugal’s royal family’s horse-master. As well, Master Luis is an honorary member of the Portuguese School of Equestrian Art and has received many extraordinary awards, including the revered title of Mestre or Master.

This episode, Sofia, Master Luis, and Elise discuss the Valenca family's traditions and insights involving horses; their renowned Valenca Method; a day in Sofia's wildly demanding life; the programs available at the family’s equestrian center; and their tight-knit family's philosophy of caring and connecting with the horses – and the fortunate riders – they train.

Topics of Discussion:

[:46] About Elise’s guest today, Sofia Valenca.

[1:08] Sofia and Master Luis reminisce about the tradition of having to earn your first horse to train.

[5:36] Sofia’s family’s philosophies on horses and how they have guided her own life.

[9:27] How riding is unlike any other sport — especially for the Valenca family.

[11:31] Reading listener feedback!

[13:05] What it was like for the tight-knit Valenca family to grow up together sharing the same love for horses.

[18:44] What it is like for Sofia to see her daughter following in her footsteps and continuing the Valenca legacy.

[21:18] Sofia’s memories from her first international debut in 1997 in Germany, carrying the Portuguese flag.

[22:37] A day in Sofia’s life, balancing work between the Royal Horse Gala and her family’s equestrian center.

[28:33] The principles of the Valenca Method.

[31:40] Why groundwork is essential for developing the relationship and communication between horse and rider.

[36:17] All about Valenca Equestrian Tours and an example of a week in the program.

[40:48] The options available to non-riding partners and family members who come along on Valenca Equestrian Tours.

[44:53] A preview of next week’s Because of Horses episode!

[45:10] The beauty of Portugal and it's lovely culture.

[46:43] Where to learn more about the Valenca family.

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Websites: The Valenca Method and The Valenca Equestrian Tours

Social Media: Facebook

Email: ValencaEquestrianTours@gmail.com

Mentioned in this Episode:

The Valenca Method

The Valenca Equestrian Tours

The Gala of the Royal Horses

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Horse-crazy kids are born every day and many others find their way to a passion for horses as they go through childhood. But for those who someday want to work in the horse industry, figuring out where to begin can be extraordinarily difficult — especially if they don't have the contacts or the level of knowledge needed to get that first break.

The Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI) was founded in 2000 to resolve this very real need. KEMI bridges the gap between desire to build a career in the horse world and actually having the skills and connections to do so, by providing meaningful opportunities to work with leading Thoroughbred farms, as well as significant classroom education.

Most of KEMI’s success is thanks to Elise’s guest today, Leslie Janecka, the program’s coordinator. Leslie has been with KEMI for 18 years (since its establishment) and has helped hundreds of students go on to a broad range of extraordinary careers with horses. In this episode, Elise and Leslie discuss the program — how it was established, the scope of studies, eligibility requirements, what it’s like to be an intern in the program, why the program's interns are much in demand at many of the world's finest Thoroughbred farms, and some of KEMI's most notable successes.

Topics of Discussion:

[:46] Introduction to Elise’s guest today, Leslie Janecka.

[1:41] How Leslie first got involved with the program and what it has been like to watch it evolve over the years.

[2:48] How and why KEMI came into being.

[5:22] How KEMI connects with students around the world, as well as the variety of students who have traveled to KEMI.

[7:38] KEMI's structure: how many interns have gone through this paid internship program, the number of sessions offered each year, and how many students attend each session.

[8:58] The scope of the studies at KEMI and the requirements to get into KEMI.

[10:20] What it is like to be an intern in the program.

[13:27] How many students from KEMI go on to actually work in the horse industry?

[14:46] The criteria Leslie looks for when selecting students for the program.

[18:28] About the farms that have been selected in the past to host the interns.

[20:22] The selection process for the farms KEMI chooses.

[23:43] Success stories from graduates of KEMI.

[24:51] What it means to Leslie when she sees the students graduating and going on to work in the horse industry.

[26:36] Giving back: KEMI also teaches students how to help/retrain horses after they retire from Thoroughbred racing.

[29:12] Where to learn more about KEMI.

[30:38] Leslie’s parting words about the program.

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The Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI)

Social Media: Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram

Mentioned in this Episode:

The Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI)

Kentucky Thoroughbred Farm Managers’ Club

Kentucky Horse Park

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Elise’s guest today on Because of Horses is David Foley, the Executive Director of the American Association of Equine Practitioners. Founded in 1954 by visionaries who saw an opportunity to positively direct the focus of equine veterinary medicine, the AAEP today represents a broad range of equine disciplines, breeds, and associations, with membership consisting of over 9,300 veterinarians and veterinary students in 61 countries.

In addition to his work at the AAEP, David is very active within the equine, veterinary, and association communities. Some of the organizations he’s supported include the American Horse Council, the National Thoroughbred Racing Association, PATH International, the Racetrack Chaplaincy of America, the Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance’s advisory board, and both the American and the Kentucky Societies of Veterinary Medical Association Executives.

In short, David has focused a significant portion of his career improving the life and well-being of horses and of their human caretakers through his work and his extraordinary volunteerism — providing a remarkable example of how we, too, might help make a difference in the equine community.

Join Elise and David this episode as they talk all about his career with the AAEP, the other organizations he has been involved with, and his incredible experiences over the duration of his career.

Topics of Discussion:

[:46] About today’s guest, David Foley.

[1:11] What drew David to the AAEP and what’s kept him there for nearly 30 years?

[3:02] The beauty of working at the Kentucky Horse Park.

[5:39] Some of the organizations David has worked with, in addition to the AAEP.

[6:32] Where did David’s deep interest in horses originate?

[7:55] What the AAEP does and the benefits it offers its members.

[10:05] Reading listener feedback!

[11:19] The countries represented by AAEP members.

[11:52] How AAEP is well-known among its member for its scholarships.

[12:43] What do veterinarians wish horse owners knew and how would it help them to be even better partners?

[14:21] How does David distinguish between a good vet and a great vet?

[16:02] How can horse owners help to make their veterinarian’s job easier and safer?

[17:54] What happens when a vet becomes ill or injured?

[21:17] The importance of the veterinarian farrier relationship and how AAEP fosters it.

[22:25] About some of the partnerships AAEP is involved with and the approach they’ve taken in working with other organizations.

[26:13] What success looks like to David personally, as well as from AAEP's standpoint.

[30:17] The emotional tolls on veterinarians and about the inspiring camaraderie Elise has witnessed between them.

[37:56] Preview of next week’s Because of Horses episode with Kentucky Equine Management Internship's coordinator, Leslie Janecka.

[39:05] How David has selected the organizations he has been involved with and has supported over the years.

[42:39] Final thoughts from David.

[43:57] Where to learn more about David and AAEP.

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American Association of Equine Practitioners

AAEP Facebook Page

Mentioned in this Episode:

American Association of Equine Practitioners

Kentucky Horse Park

Morris Animal Foundation

Grayson-Jockey Club Research Foundation

American Veterinary Medical Association

All Creatures Great and Small, by James Herriot

Kentucky Equine Management Internship (KEMI)

Upcoming Because of Horses Episode: Leslie Janecka

PATH International

Race Track Chaplaincy of America

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses is… herself!

Today is May 18th, her birthday, so it’s the perfect time to “interview” herself and respond to listener emails! Elise answers frequently asked questions such as, “Why did you decide to do a podcast?” “How exactly do podcasts work?” and “How do you select guests?”

She talks all about her early childhood adventures riding horses, about her horse of a lifetime, and up to her current experiences and involvement with horses. Summarizing Because of Horses in a nutshell, Elise talks about how it came into being, why she decided on the podcast format to help materialize her dream, all of the people that helped make this possible for her, and the guests who have told their inspirational stories on the podcast.

Tune in to the week’s episode to hear more about the person behind the mic — Elise!

Topics of Discussion:

[:48] About this week’s episode!

[1:21] About Elise’s earliest memories about loving horses and about her first lessons in riding.

[5:20] Some of Elise’s early adventures with her dogs and horse as a young girl.

[8:00] Elise’s teenage highlights from the Shenandoah Valley Pony Club.

[9:33] Elise’s experiences at Caveland Farm in Boyce, Virginia.

[12:14] Elise’s college experience and the retirement of Whipper Snapper, and the beginning of her journalism career on Capitol Hill — then Human Resources.

[16:08] The story of how Elise came to purchase her next horse — and her next horse, and her next horse!

[18:53] How Elise’s Andalusian stallion, Novelisto, became a movie star.

[19:55] About the people and motivational clarity that sparked Elise’s inspiration to begin her podcast, Because of Horses.

[26:55] What Elise sets out to accomplish with Because of Horses, and about the types of guests she features.

[31:25] Looking back and reflecting on previous episodes of Because of Horses.

[33:32] Why Elise chose the podcast format to make her ideas come to life.

[34:14] What sets Because of Horses apart from other horse podcasts.

[36:53] Some of the exciting guests Elise is looking forward to interviewing in future episodes.

[37:44] How Elise selects and finds future guests for the podcast.

[39:28] So, what is a podcast?

[41:25] About the production behind the podcast.

[42:29] How long it takes to produce one episode and the process behind it.

[46:36] Want to get the word out about an upcoming horse-related event? Email elise@becauseofhorses.com and it may be included on the events calendar at BecauseofHorses.com — it’s free!

[46:46] More behind-the-scenes info on the production effort that goes into creating each week's Because of Horses podcast!

[51:11] Travel plans coming up for Elise.

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Mentioned in this Episode:

Breyer Horses

Shenandoah Valley Pony Club

Caveland Farm

Baylor Scott & White Health

Yum! Brands

Mary Kay

A Parent's Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

Mayo Clinic Pediatric Rehabilitation

Ben Masters

The Plaidcast

Dr. Niobe Thompson

Equest

Podfly

Rev

Because of Horses Facebook Page

Because of Horses Facebook Group

Royal Ascot

Andalusian World Cup

Past Episodes and Guests Mentioned:

Alan Day

Kiki and Don Teague

Jessie Haas

Charles Hilton

Templeton Thompson and Sam Gay

Brandi Lyons

Stacy Westfall

Christoph Hess

Al Dunning

Donna Barton Brothers

Wendy Williams

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses is Paula Josa Jones — who defies definition. Just when you think you’ve figured out exactly what it is she does and why her work is so powerful, she peels away another layer and becomes something else entirely. Author, dancer, choreographer, performer — it could take hours to discuss all of Paula’s work. Her new book, Our Horses, Ourselves, is no exception to her outstanding body of work.

So often we think of communication as a two-way, interconnected experience. While this is certainly the intent we bring to our interactions with horses, reality can fall short. We arrive at the barn stressed and worn down, which creates tension in our bodies and movement — and, in-turn, we bring negative energy to our horses... Creatures who are incredibly sensitive, intuitive, and adept at reading our emotions, intent, and body language. Despite our own mental and emotional state, we expect our horses to be calm and relaxed, but Paula Josa Jones asks us to think of our time with horses differently — through focusing on being present through intentional awareness, cultivating mindfulness, and focusing on becoming more comfortable in our skin to better connect to our horses.

In this episode, Elise and Paula discuss her book, Our Horses, Ourselves, in depth. Paula speaks about how improving your relationships with horses can help improve your relationships with other people and – most especially -- with yourself. She also discusses her approach to accessing and embodying awareness, how dancing has helped her better understand the universal language of movement, and how our lives and the way we experience the world around us can be so much more meaningful.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:28] How improving our relationships with horses can help improve our relationships with others and ourselves.

[6:41] Can horses read our underlying emotions?

[9:31] The many ways people can experience communication and the relationship between themselves and their horse.

[11:35] Cultivating mindfulness and Paula’s approach to accessing and embodying awareness.

[16:45] How our daily stress can be carried with us to the stable — and in turn, our relationship with our horses — and why we need to do our part in this relationship.

[22:55] Reading listener feedback!

[24:53] How you can achieve a greater connection with your horse by becoming more comfortable with yourself and your relationships with others.

[28:30] What is it about horses in particular that speaks to Paula?

[30:55] Does seeing through the lens of a dancer give Paula a greater sense of understanding horses’ movements?

[35:20] Eliminating judgment and cultivating a compassionate inner witness (your inner voice).

[38:58] The language we should use when we talk about training (and shifting that to better communicate with the horse to achieve a given goal).

[41:49] Thanks to our recent donors!

[42:36] Newly found insights that surprised Paula while writing her new book, Our Horses, Ourselves.

[48:20] What Paula would like readers to take away from her book.

[50:34] What you can expect on next week’s Because of Horses episode!

[51:23] How does Paula balance her passion and creative aspect of her work, while acknowledging and dealing with the business side?

[53:12] What is the price of not following your passion?

[55:24] What does success look like to Paula?

[57:10] Where to find Paula online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Paula Josa Jones

Website: PaulaJosaJones.org

Email: PJJ@PaulaJosaJones.org

Mentioned in this Episode:

Our Horses, Ourselves: Discovering the Common Body: Meditations and Strategies for Deeper Understanding and Enhanced Communication, by Paula Josa-Jones

Because of Horses: Sasscer Hill Episode

Because of Horses: Dallas Police Episode

Because of Horses: Jessie Haas Episode

Linda Tellington Jones

Jon Katz

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If you are a fan of mystery novels or books with horse racing themes, you are going to love Elise’s guest today on the Because Of Horses podcast, Sasscer Hill. She’s a novelist, former thoroughbred breeder, and an amateur steeplechase jockey, and her evocative storytelling is "can't-put-it-down" entertaining, with frequent comparisons to the legendary Dick Francis.

Sasscer sets her award-winning novels against a background of big money, gambling, and horse racing. Her first book in the “Nikki Latrelle” series, Full Mortality, was nominated for both an Agatha and a Macavity award. And recently, she has written a new award-winning series featuring protagonist “Fia McKee.” The first book in the series, Flamingo Road, was released in April 2017 and was just honored with the Tony Ryan Book Award... ironically, beating nominee Felix Francis – Dick Francis' son! Sasscer's second book in the series, The Dark Side of Town, came out just a few weeks ago.

Tune in to this episode with Elise and Sasscer Hill to hear more about her experiences as a young girl being mentored by incredibly kind and world-renowned equestrians; how she has explored her interests in racing, breeding, and writing; and about the process, plots, and characters behind her award-winning novels.

Topics of Discussion:

[:46] About Elise’s guest today, Sasscer Hill.

[2:19] What stands out for Sasscer when she looks back at the path that led her to become a distinguished author.

[4:50] Has Sasscer always known what she wanted to do? And did she always plan on having horses in her life?

[6:35] When did Sasscer have the epiphany that she could make writing her career?

[9:22] About the two people Sasscer dedicated her first book to (Rhoda Christmas Bowling and Alfred Smith Sr.) and what their kindness meant to her and to her career.

[16:10] Ways the Smith family continued to help Sasscer throughout her life — and the monumental race that she won in 1986.

[18:27] Reading listener feedback!

[19:52] Elise and Sasscer talk about the exhilarating experience that is steeplechasing.

[22:04] Sasscer’s story of buying a dubious mare who went on to change her breeding career.

[25:47] Sasscer’s take on crafting a well-realized plot with the added component of getting the “horse side” right.

[26:33] Elise reads one of Sasscer’s reader reviews that truly captures the appeal she holds for horse-loving book-people.

[27:27] What it means to Sasscer to read such fantastic reviews of her books and how she feels when she meets readers in person at book signings and other author events.

[29:15] Because of the characters' authenticity and how real-to-life her books are, has Sasscer encountered some readers who believe the books' plots are more fact than fiction?

[34:12] When Sasscer finds herself at a race track, does she envision future stories and plots? And how she gets subject matter expert guidance on plot elements and storylines.

[36:38] How does Sasscer meet horse racing and police experts, and gain their agreement to work with her?

[40:19] Thanking listeners who have recently made a donation to the podcast!

[41:14] How Sasscer originally found out about the TRPB and how she used them as inspiration in her newest book series with protagonist “Fia McKee.”

[45:26] Sasscer talks about the plot of her newest novel, The Dark Side of Town, and how it continues Fia McKee’s character arc from her last book, Flamingo Road.

[51:05] Sasscer speaks about her award nominations.

[52:28] A preview of next week’s Because of Horses, with guest, Paula Josa Jones.

[53:19] Beyond a “horse book” -- You don’t have to be in the horse world or be invested in horses to read Sasscer Hill’s (and Dick Francis’) books.

[56:22] Where to find Sasscer and her books online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest— Sasscer Hill

SasscerHill.com

Sasscer Hill’s Amazon Book Page

Sasscer Hill’s Facebook Page

Mentioned in this Episode:

Flamingo Road, by Sasscer Hill

The Dark Side of Town, by Sasscer Hill

Full Mortality, by Sasscer Hill

Barbara Parker (NYT best selling author)

Because of Horses Episode 28: Laura Romfh

Upcoming Because of Horses Episode with Steve and Connie Tusha of Great Oak Equine

Because of Horses Episode 27: Stacy Westfall

The video of Stacy Westfall’s viral ride

Thoroughbred Racing Protection Bureau (TRPB)

Dave Berry

Books by Elise Chand

Upcoming Because of Horses Episode with Paula Josa Jones

Our Horses, Ourselves: Discovering the Common Body: Meditations and Strategies for Deeper Understanding and Enhanced Communication, by Paula Josa-Jones

Dick Francis

The Hunt for Red October (A Jack Ryan Novel), by Tom Clancy

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Elise’s guest today on the Because of Horses podcast is Laura Romfh — avid athlete, lifelong equestrian, and the visionary fashion designer who created Romfh Equestrian Apparel. Laura was the first designer to create technical equestrian performance sportswear — thinking of riders from an athlete’s mindset — using fabrics and design elements that provide comfort and athletic performance benefits, with lines that are flattering to all different body styles.

Laura has truly put together equestrians’ athleticism, the realities of riding, modern textiles and beautiful designs into her apparel — all while remaining true to the centuries of equestrian tradition. Thanks to Laura and Romfh Equestrian Apparel, riding clothes are not only functional and durable, they’re seriously attractive and comfortable -- designed to move the way an equestrian athlete needs to move. They’re competition-ready and they’re designed from fabrics that breathe.

This episode, Laura and Elise speak about how Laura successfully designs riding attire that is beautiful, comfortable, and showring approved; what led her to start up her own company at the age of 25; what a typical day of balancing both riding and designing looks like; the gratifying experience of receiving feedback from "real" riders; and about her own, unique connections to her horses of a lifetime!

Topics of Discussion:

[:45] About Elise’s guest today, Laura Romfh.

[1:21] How Laura successfully balances the elements most important to riders -- designing riding attire that is beautiful, comfortable, and showring approved.

[3:16] Laura’s riding background and what her solid foundation in riding means to her as she thinks back on her childhood.

[5:44] How Laura’s experience designing apparel for surfers led her to open her own design company for equestrians.

[8:12] What led Laura to take the leap of incorporating breathable fabrics into her designs, ultimately landing her first big break with Dover.

[13:00] What Laura remembers most from the time she pitched to Dover and became an overnight success.

[14:00] When Laura realized she had a success on her hands.

[16:39] Reading listener feedback!

[18:06] What it’s like for Laura to see some of the finest equestrians in the world wear her designs.

[20:32] The process of sponsoring an athlete and how she decides who to work with.

[23:18] A typical day for Laura as a rider and designer, and how she maintains her energy!

[24:40] Laura’s transition from dressage to jumping.

[28:24] Laura’s three horses-of-a-lifetime!

[35:12] Laura’s special experience and connection of raising a horse from its "foal-hood."

[37:25] What strikes Laura as she considers the strong legacy of equestrians and our connection with horses, as a designer of clothing that riders both enjoy and depend on? And what Laura would like her legacy to be.

[41:38] The gratifying experience of receiving positive feedback from riders about her apparel.

[44:00] What does Laura envision for the future of equestrian attire?

[50:07] What to expect on next week’s Because of Horses with guest, Sasscer Hill!

[50:52] What Laura wants to do next, both in her own riding and the exciting news for Romfh Equestrian Apparel!

[53:18] Where to find more about Laura online and follow her online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Laura Romfh

Website: Romfh Equestrian Apparel

Social Media: Romfh Equestrian Apparel on Facebook, Laura’s Personal Facebook Page, and Romfh Equestrian Apparel on Instagram.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Romfh Equestrian Apparel

Parsons School of Design

Dover

Danny Forbes Because of Horses Episode

Upcoming Because of Horses Episode with Sasscer Hill

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses podcast is the renowned trainer, clinician, and competitor, Stacy Westfall. Stacy’s remarkable style of riding without a bridle or a saddle has set the bar for true horsemanship.

Though the list of championships and purses is far too long to detail, here are just a few highlights from Stacy’s incredible career: in 2003, she won the National Reining Horse Association Freestyle competition riding without a bridle; she went undefeated for two years straight in major US freestyle Reining competitions; in 2006 she won twice while riding without a bridle or a saddle; and she was also inducted into the National Cowgirl Hall of Fame in 2012, and has been on the cover of magazines like Horse & Rider.

One of her biggest accomplishments was her 2006 All-American Quarter Horse Congress Freestyle competition that created an absolute sensation. She dedicated her ride to her father who passed away only days prior and the video went viral online. She won with a score of 239, the highest score ever recorded — and of course, did it without a bridle or saddle.

Stacy has also appeared on the Emmy Award-winning Ellen Degeneres Show, even teaching Ellen to ride her beloved Quarter Horse mare, Roxy.

These days, Stacy and her husband, Jessie, own and operate Westfall Horsemanship; a training facility in Ohio where they live with their three boys. Stacy gives clinics, trains horses, produces DVDs, and continues to compete and perform in exhibitions.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:56] What led Stacy to become the first person to compete at some of the largest and most prestigious events in the U.S. without a bridle or a saddle?

[7:17] Stacy on her experience of dropping her reins and getting disqualified.

[13:07] Stacy looks back on her accomplishments and the decisions that got her to where she is today.

[18:19] Stacy’s focus on positive intent and ethics.

[20:24] Reading listener feedback!

[22:52] The powerful impact that Stacy’s viral ride had on her audience and viewers online.

[30:31] How Stacy was able to take a leap of faith in riding without a bridle and saddle — and how it feels to ride completely without tack in important competitions.

[36:52] What Stacy believes Roxy’s thoughts and experience were like being ridden without tack.

[44:35] How Stacy mastered the sliding stop, bareback.

[46:46] About Stacy’s television appearance on the Ellen Show.

[54:39] Stacy’s multiple horses of a lifetime and how she believes these connections are made.

[58:56] The genesis of Stacy’s annual Equine Career Conference and what it entails.

[1:04:37] A quick preview of next week’s episode with Laura Romfh, visionary fashion designer who created Romfh Equestrian Apparel, airing Friday 27th.

[1:05:36] How Stacy applies the James Michener quote on her website to her everyday life.

[1:09:41] Where to find and follow Stacy online.

[1:10:32] About Stacy’s upcoming appearance at the Columbus, Ohio Equine Affaire.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Stacy Westfall

Stacy’s website: Westfall Horsemanship

Social media: Facebook and Twitter

Mentioned in this Episode:

Stacy’s viral ride (from the 2006 All-American Quarter Horse Congress Freestyle Competition)

Stacy on Ellen DeGeneres

George Strait

Equine Career Conference

James A. Michener quote

Laura Romfh

Romfh Equestrian Apparel

Equine Affaire in Columbus, Ohio

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses is Danny Forbes, founder and owner of DMF Productions. Danny regularly produces phenomenal clinics featuring some of the world’s finest equestrians, including George Morris, McLain Ward, Scott Brash, and Isabell Werth — the most decorated Olympic equestrian in history.

No stranger to the competitive equestrian world, Danny himself enjoyed a long career in the industry, both in and out of the saddle. He spent the majority of his life as a professional Show Jumping rider, competing all over North America, New Zealand, Ireland, England, and throughout Europe. He has been coached by the likes of Neil Hendricks and has enjoyed great success. His own love of horses and the incredible generosity offered to him by talented trainers and riders over the years inspired DMF Production’s mission: to give riders, from amateur to professional, the opportunity to school with some of the most decorated athletes in the sport.

Danny is a wonderful example of sticking to your dreams no matter the obstacles. Today, Elise and Danny discuss his business,DMF Productions:how it got started, what it takes to organize and produce a clinic, his dream guest list, and who he is featuring in upcoming clinics. They also discuss Danny’s childhood growing up: integral lessons in riding, pivotal horses that changed Danny’s life, his inspiring coaches, and becoming a young apprentice to the Canadian Olympian, Jay Hayes. Tune in to hear more about Danny’s incredible journey!

Topics of Discussion:

[1:33] The heartwarming story of how Danny got his first pony.

[4:18] Where did Danny’s love of horses come from?

[6:00] The integral lessons Danny learned when he was younger.

[8:26] The physical and emotional components of riding horses.

[10:00] The pivotal horses in Danny’s life and how they affected him.

[14:45] About Danny’s amazing childhood coach, Mary, and the integral role she played in Danny’s life.

[17:00] Another pivotal moment in Danny’s life: becoming an apprentice to the Canadian Olympian, Jay Hayes.

[21:26] How did Danny find the courage to approach Olympian Jay Hayes for a job at the age of 15?

[23:44] Reading listener’s feedback!

[24:53] How DMF Productions got its start and Danny’s journey building the business.

[30:25] What it is like for Danny to produce clinics alongside the world's most celebrated equestrians.

[32:38] Danny explains how the clinics are organized and all the work that goes into producing one.

[36:08] What excites Danny about one of his upcoming clinics, featuring Isabell Werth —the most decorated Olympic equestrian in history.

[38:29] Where to find out more about the clinics.

[40:21] Potential clinicians and riders Danny would love to feature in future clinics.

[44:19] The challenge of economics in young riders' lives.

[47:41] Hard work pays off: the strong character traits that have allowed Danny to overcome challenges throughout his life and never letting anything deter him.

[50:15] Does Danny ever recall being overwhelmed during his journey as an equestrian?

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DMF Productions

Mentioned in this Episode:

DMF Productions

Jay Hayes, Canadian Olympian

Isabell Werth, German Olympian

Upcoming DMF Production Isabell Werth Clinics

Rodney Jenkins

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Elise’s guests today are Sergeant Michael Hunter, who leads the Dallas Mounted Unit, and Senior Corporal Bobby Favors, who selects and trains both the horses and riders.

It takes a unique horse to successfully join a police department’s mounted unit. From the selection process to the physical and mental components, making it through training, and actually going into service are major accomplishments that few horses can achieve. In the US, the success rate for horses going into police training is 1 in 10 – that’s a 90% drop rate – which is actually worse than a Navy recruit getting through the US Navy SEALs, which is 1 in 4.

Mounted units’ horses fulfill a vital role in any community, not only performing police work, but also providing a very real connection between the public and the officers. Tune in to hear more about the DPD’s Mounted Unit from the perspective of officers in the field, the selection and training processes for both the horses and the officers, and what it’s like to ride the beat every day.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:29] How Sergeant Hunter and Sr. Corporal Favors came to join DPD’s Mounted Unit.

[5:08] Why there’s a waiting list of officers wanting to join the Mounted Unit.

[5:49] What about Mounted Unit work is so unique and appealing.

[6:25] The pros and cons for officers who already have riding experience before joining the unit.

[8:40] Training officers and horses the same, correct way is critical.

[10:03] How horses and officers are assigned to be partners.

[10:52] Reading listener feedback!

[12:37] The experience for officers on horseback vs. in a patrol car.

[16:30] The most important qualities required for officers to join the Mounted Unit.

[22:10] How the equation “one horse equals 10 officers” works.

[24:12] Do officers become protective of their horses?

[25:22] What makes a good police horse? The physical and mental requirements.

[29:05] The success rate of horses going into police training, and Sergeant Hunter’s and Sr. Corporal Favors’ observations in the training and selection process.

[31:26] Making the partnership between horse and officer work well.

[35:20] Where to learn more about the DPD’s Mounted Unit.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guests— Sergeant Hunter and Sr. Corporal Favors

Social Media: Facebook,Twitter, and Instagram.

Dallas Police Department’s Mounted Unit

Mentioned in this Episode:

Dallas Police Department’s Mounted Unit

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Elise’s guest today is Cavalia aerialist and rider, Claire Beer. Cavalia is a show that calls for superlatives — It’s the biggest touring show in the world, held under the largest big top in the world. It is a show inspired by the ancient alliance between horse and human, combining practically every mythos involving horses ever known to mankind. Over 5 million people worldwide have seen the show since its 2003 debut. And it's the dream, come to life, of Cirque du Soleil's creator, Normand Latourelle.

Cavalia showcases 50 artists from 13 nationalities, speaking a total of seven languages, and is comprised of 65 horses, representing 11 breeds, performing five separate disciplines. The perfection demonstrated by Cavalia's equine and human performers comes only through extreme dedication, passion, courage, and remarkable physical and mental discipline. All of the hard work that goes into these shows truly makes Cavalia a show of epic cultures, joy, and magic.

As one of the many incredibly talented Cavalia aerialists and riders, Claire shares her insights into her remarkable and unique career, what life is like touring worldwide all year ’round, how she originally came to join Cavalia, her training and work philosophy, and her plans for the future.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:33] What it’s like for Claire, going to work every day to such a magical work environment.

[4:01] Elise’s experience at Cavalia’s Odysseo show.

[4:37] The goal of Cavalia, how the magic of the show comes together, and how they train with the horses.

[5:56] Claire’s journey and how she came to join Cavalia.

[12:29] Claire’s love for traveling the world, and learning about new cultures and places.

[14:02] What it means to be an aerialist at Cavalia.

[18:20] How Cavalia and Claire keep every performance fun and fresh....and safe.

[21:10] The physical and mental discipline needed to perform with Cavalia.

[25:44] What keeps Claire “on her toes” during the performance.

[29:13] Claire’s favorite breed of horse at Cavalia.

[31:16] Reading and answering listener feedback!

[33:04] What the selection and training processes are like for the horses.

[35:19] How Claire is flexible with her own performance to accommodate the horses.

[40:48] Cavalia’s horse training philosophy.

[43:40] The family environment and common goal shared amongst the Cavalia team.

[45:58] Claire’s training regimen to stay in top form.

[48:58] About the work behind Because of Horses.

[50:49] The difference between a good performer and a phenomenal one.

[52:36] What hasn’t Claire tried that she’d like to?

[54:22] How Claire defines success.

[59:56] Where Cavalia is going to be in 2018 and what Claire is currently up to.

[1:02:04] Where to find Claire online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Claire Beer

Instagram: @Claire__Beer
Facebook: @Claire.Beer.92

Mentioned in this Episode:

Cavalia

Cirque du Soleil

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses podcast is Tom O’Mara, Co-Chair of the National Collegiate Equestrian Association’s Advisory Board, as well as a frequent guest on the Plaid Horse’s Plaidcast, where he keeps listeners updated on the latest NCEA news. He’s also a horse-show dad — and husband — who knows the competitive horse world like few others. Tom has three daughters and a son; Casey, Abby, Meg, and T.J. — all of whom have ridden competitively. The family of six have traveled on the road 35 weekends out of the year attending horse shows ... and his children competed at 34 Equitation Finals.

It would be easy to focus on Tom’s incredible professional and competitive accomplishments, as well as the difference he is making across the U.S. through the NCEA — but, at the heart of his infectious enthusiasm, his phenomenal knowledge, his terrifically positive energy, and his always-upbeat nature, is an incredibly engaged and justifiably proud father and husband who shares in his family’s passion and talent for the equestrian world.

Listen in to today’s show to hear more about Tom’s incredible drive to help bring the same opportunities that his own children have had to all young equestrians — as well as his advice and recommendations to young riders, a look at the NCEA and participating universities at the ground level, and the work he is doing behind the scenes to help grow the equestrian sport.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:12] How Tom’s family’s horse show experiences brought them all closer together.

[5:14] More about Tom’s children and their age differences.

[6:18] What is it about horses, riding, and competing that is so beneficial to families?

[8:15] The nuances of equestrian sport and the many ways it is great for children.

[11:50] What led Tom to serve on the NCEA Advisory Board, and a brief history of the NCEA and NCAA.

[22:49] Reading listener feedback!

[24:25] How NCEA and NCAA help grow equestrian sport and support women.

[29:59] The process of persuading universities and colleges to take on the equestrian sport, and an example of Tom's conversations with academic leaders.

[41:10] The challenge: schools dropping their equestrian programs and how NCEA approaches potential concerns.

[47:30] The caliber of female students required by equestrian sport: its all year ’round, no time- off schedule, while balancing their academics and maintaining their scholarships.

[55:45] Tom’s advice and recommendations to young riders whose colleges or universities do not yet have an equestrian team.

[1:04:08] About Tom’s regular appearances on The Plaid Horse’s Plaidcast and his predictions for Collegiate Equestrian.

[1:12:20] Where to learn more about the Plaidcast, the NCEA, and find Tom online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Tom O’Mara

The Plaid Horse
Plaidcast

CollegiateEquestrian.com (NCEA)

Mentioned in this Episode:

CollegiateEquestrian.com (NCEA)

NCAA.org

Intercollegiate Horse Show Association (IHSA)

The Plaid Horse

A Parent's Guide to Riding Lessons: Everything You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive with a Horse-Loving Kid, by Elise Gaston Chand

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Elise’s guest on today’s Because of Horses helps save hundreds of wild Mustangs every year, in the process also providing life skills and hope to the prisoners who volunteered to gentle them.

Randy Helm heads up the Wild Horse and Burro Inmate Program within the Arizona Department of Corrections. Randy supervises and trains about 40 prisoners, and over 500 horses and burros, ensuring the animals' careful gentling and making it possible for them to leave BLM's holding facilities and get adopted into loving homes.

And while it wasn't initially the program's focus, the very nature of working with horses has been incredibly beneficial to the prisoners, themselves – giving them hope for life after prison, building their self-confidence, helping them connect with other living beings, and teaching them life skills that many were never before exposed to. The outstanding results speak for themselves: while about 40% of Arizona prisoners will be back behind bars within three years of their release, those who participate in Randy’s wild horse training program have a recidivism rate of less than 15%.

This episode, Elise and Randy discuss the program's role in saving wild Mustangs and providing them with a shot at new lives, the changes he sees in the prisoner-trainers, and why rehabilitating horses – and men – is so important to him... a former narcotics officer, life-long rancher, and devoted horseman.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:23] The changes Randy sees in prisoners as they participate in the program.

[2:28] How are inmates selected to participate?

[3:48] The inmates' varied backgrounds.

[4:11] Why the program requires prisoners to have their high school diploma or be working toward their GED.

[6:42] How the program guides inmates toward self-improvement.

[7:48] Why Randy believes these programs with horses are so meaningful.

[9:38] What Randy has observed in the interactions between the horses and the inmates — especially in the early days.

[11:16] The program's objective and the bond between horses and inmates.

[13:20] Teaching the inmates to work with the horses’ nature through low-resistance training and natural horsemanship.

[18:40] The important, teachable moments between the inmates and horses.

[21:48] Reading listener feedback!

[23:38] What the program looks like on a day-to-day basis and how it helps prisoners develop a strong work ethic.

[25:45] The stats don’t lie — the program's impressive success rate.

[27:34] How Randy’s own life experiences have been critical in providing a good background for the work he is doing today.

[20:10] How Randy drew from his past experiences to coach former inmates to avoid the habits that led to their incarceration.

[30:48] The many roles required by Randy's job.

[32:20] Why Randy believes wild Mustangs tend to take to Border Patrol fairly easily — sometimes even better than a domesticated Quarter Horse.

[39:18] Other ways Mustangs can be better accustomed to trails and different types of environments.

[40:44] The complex issue of managing the wild Mustang and how the program helps.

[43:17] How the horses are selected for the program.

[45:50] From start to finish, what training wild Mustangs is usually like.

[46:54] Where to learn more about the wild horse program.

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Arizona Correctional Industries’ Wild Horse Program

Mentioned in this Episode:

BLM.gov

Arizona Correctional Industries’ Wild Horse Program

Northern Nevada Correctional Center Wild Horse Training Facility

Wild Horse Inmate Program in Colorado Correctional Industries

Wild Horse Program at the Kansas Correctional Industries

Wyoming Honor Farm

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During the week between Christmas and New Years, Elise had the opportunity to stay a week at the Hill Country Equestrian Lodge, just outside Bandera, Texas. While there, she met Dianne Lindig Lovett — a talented equestrian in riding, training, and competing; and the lodge's co-owner. Taken by her story, wonderful hospitality, and love for horses, Elise asked Dianne on the spot to be a guest on Because of Horses — and very happily, she agreed!

This episode, join Elise and Dianne as they talk about how she and her husband met, married, and returned to her beloved hometown, Bandera — the Cowboy Capital of the World — to find this beautiful spot in the Texas Hill Country. Their story is heartwarming and delightful and full of fascinating insight into history, culture, and human nature.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:30] Dianne’s earliest memory of her love for horses.

[4:20] How Dianne maintains her love for horses while running the lodge 24/7.

[7:35] What it’s like for Dianne to see someone experience her lodge and horses for the first time.

[9:15] About the unique horses at Dianne’s lodge.

[18:29] How Dianne and her husband met in Dallas, Texas; moving back to her hometown in Bandera and opening their lodge together.

[24:47] Peter’s (Dianne’s husband) experience and willingness to go along with a horse-based business.

[25:55] How Peter and Dianne took the leap of opening their lodge.

[29:33] Reading and answering listener feedback!

[32:03] About Elise’s experience at the lodge and its tranquility (no wifi, TVs, or cell service).

[41:10] Dianne’s insights into the 55-acre natural area adjacent to the lodge.

[48:16] Some of the other natural features of the Hill Country Equestrian Lodge.

[51:50] More of Elise’s experiences at the lodge and some of her and Dianne’s favorite aspects that set it apart from other ranch vacation venues.

[1:02:08] How Dianne keeps her horses healthy, happy, and engaged on the ranch with guests coming and going.

[1:07:05] Where to find out more about Dianne and her lodge online.

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Website: HillCountryEquestLodge.com

Facebook: HCEL’s page and Dianne’s page.

Phone # (830)-796-7950

Mentioned in this Episode:

Hill Country Equestrian Lodge

Because of Horses Episode: “Taking Equestrian Sports to the NCAA, College Scholarships, and Competing in the Big 12, with Oklahoma State’s Coach, Larry Sanchez”

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In this episode, Elise talks with award-winning blogger and journalist Fran Jurga, who has devoted her career to writing about horse health, covering Olympic equestrian events and World Equestrian Games, and sharing delightful stories about veterinarians and farriers for her wildly popular – at more than 3.75 million visitors – Jurga Report (for EQUUS Magazine and AIM Equine Network) and The Hoof Blog.

And then there's Molly, the abandoned three-legged pony who survived Hurricane Katrina. This courageous, little mare's life profoundly impacted Fran... as well as tens of thousands of people across the world whose hearts were touched by her story.

From horse healthcare to the use of whips in horse racing — Fran doesn’t shy away from covering timely stories her horse-enthusiast readers want and need. Whether the topic is treating lameness, concussive injuries among riders, cutting-edge sensory science — there is no mistaking Fran’s passion for her life’s work and for connecting with others who share her love for all things equine.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:41] Did Fran always know what she wanted to do?

[3:09] Where Fran’s interest in horses came from.

[5:14] About Fran’s other work in museum conceptual planning and exhibit design.

[8:36] Why Fran believes that the study of horses’ hooves is under-served in the horse world.

[13:25] What Fran’s business, Hoofcare Publishing, means to her, and how it has evolved since its inception.

[18:33] Some of the awards and recognition Fran has received from her work with horses, and what they mean to her.

[21:54] The story of Molly, the abandoned, three-legged pony.

[27:30] Reading listener feedback!

[29:21] How Molly’s story helped inspire Fran during the impact of hurricane Katrina.

[34:40] Where Fran’s courage comes from when covering controversial topics.

[42:27] Fran’s insight on why horse-lovers can be emotionally charged.

[48:35] About the endless amount of stories Fran hopes to write.

[51:22] About Fran’s experience on the CD series “Inventing Your Horse Career.”

[56:20] How do the stakes change when you’re a freelancer and how do you measure success when there are no clear-cut milestones?

[1:00:43] The importance of the "small moments."

[1:06:18] Where to find Fran online.

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Twitter Accounts: @FranJurga, @EquiSearch, @HoofBlog, and @HoofHistory.

Websites: The Hoof Blog, Equi Search, Hoofcare Publishing, and The Jurga Report on EQUUS Magazine

Mentioned in this Episode:

The Jurga Report on EQUUS Magazine

EQUUS Magazine

AIM Equine Network

The Chronicle of the Horse

Hoofcare Publishing

American Farriers Journal

AAEP

Molly the Pony

War Horse (2011)

“Inventing Your Horse Career” CD Series

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Today’s guest on the Because of Horses podcast is iconic western horseman and trainer, Al Dunning. Since 1970, Al has owned and operated the Almosta Ranch, a Quarter Horse training facility, in Scottsdale, Arizona. He’s received countless honors, including the American Quarter Horse Association’s Professional Horseman of the Year and the National Cutting Horse Association’s Trainer of the Year. He has also served on the United States Equestrian Team’s Formation Committee to make reining an Olympic sport.

With over 45 World and Reserve World titles, Al Dunning and his students have seen great success in AQHA, NCHA, NRCHA, and NRHA events. His love of teaching has taken him all over the world — conducting clinics and sharing his training techniques and philosophies on horsemanship. Al has written multiple articles and books, and created several well-received educational videos on training horses. In addition, Al has developed an online lesson and mentoring program, Team AD, as well as AD Tack — an online store for tack and training equipment.

Al is as generous with his expertise and insight into Reining, Cutting, and Cow Horse competition as he is with his perspective on living a good life, putting in an honest day’s work, and teaching the next generation. Join Elise this episode to hear Al’s advice to those looking to become a better horse rider or trainer, his stories on his legendary horse, Expensive Hobby, his lessons and insight into western disciplines, and his life philosophy on always putting his family and faith first.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:00] Al Dunning: prioritizing family and faith first.

[2:58] Moving from Chicago to Arizona: the beginning of horses entering Al’s life.

[5:52] Al’s family and why they share a passion for horses.

[11:35] Al explains reining, cutting, and working cow horse.

[16:00] Cutting: an impressive, exciting, beautiful discipline.

[18:05] Which of Al’s horses have been able to crossover into multiple disciplines and what it takes for a horse to be trained in all three (reining, cutting, and working cow horse) disciplines.

[21:12] Al’s special, Hall of Famer horse, Expensive Hobby.

[22:37] Responding to listener feedback!

[24:30] Al’s advice to people who want to be a horse rider or trainer.

[32:10] Al’s mentors: who they were and why he looked up to them.

[35:28] Al’s philosophies on horsemanship, his training approach, and the importance he upholds on life skills.

[38:54] How receptive is the modern rider to Al’s traditional riding approach?

[41:38] Al’s approach to training: the five basics.

[45:00] About Al’s businesses: AD Tack, Better Horses Network, and Team AD.

[48:31] What’s to come in Because of Horses!

[49:26] What hasn’t Al tried?

[50:33] What Al would like his legacy to be.

[52:33] Al’s advice to those trying to pursue their dreams.

[58:05] Where to follow Al online.

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Websites and Businesses: AlDunning.com, AD Tack, and Team AD.

Social Media Pages: Facebook and Instagram.

Email: Al@AlDunning.com

Al’s Amazon Book Page

Radio Network: Better Horses Network and Al’s Show: Al Dunning’s ADTV.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Almosta Ranch

AQHA

NCHA

NRCHA

NRHA

Jim Paul

John Hoyt

Don Dodge

AD Tack

Team AD

Better Horses Network

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Elise’s guest today is Oklahoma State University’s equestrian team Head Coach, Larry Sanchez. Coach Sanchez has been essential in gaining varsity recognition for equestrian sports and currently serves as the spokesman for the Varsity Equestrian Steering Committee, which is responsible for the development, organization, and implementation of the NCAA’s recognition of equestrian sports.

As one of the most respected equestrian coaches in the US, Coach Sanchez has guided OSU’s equestrian team to National Championships in 2000, 2003 - ’06, and ’13; and has led the Cowgirls to Big 12 Championships in the 2009, 2012 - ’14 seasons, as well. During his coaching career, 14 of Coach Sanchez’s qualifying teams have placed in the Top 4 at the National Level. He’s coached 23 riders to Individual National Championships and 13 riders to Reserve Championships. And he was selected the Big 12 Coach of the Year in 2017.

Join Elise and Coach Sanchez as he shares the qualities coaches look for when selecting team members, offering scholarships, and for achieving greatness in both competition and in life. Students and parents should take note of his insights into coaching Oklahoma State’s talented equestrian team, the strategies he employs in competitions, the ins and outs of the recruiting process, and what it means to be a part of a school that values horses, tradition, and their cowboy heritage.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:36] What Coach Sanchez thinks makes Oklahoma State’s Cowgirls equestrian team a force to be reckoned with, year after year.

[3:42] How Coach Sanchez and the Cowgirls manage to keep focused on each new meet at hand.

[6:34] What is a Eurociser?

[7:53] What is the upcoming crop of freshman riders like?

[9:14] What Coach Sanchez believes sets top riders apart from the competition and his recruiting process.

[22:15] All about OSU’s equestrian team scholarships.

[28:38] Elise shares listeners' feedback!

[30:15] The collegiate team experience: working with the lower classmen, recruiting, and helping with the adjustment from individual to team sport.

[35:40] Struck by OSU’s equestrian team’s manners, Elise asks if they come to the school with these traits already instilled in them or if they’ve learned them throughout their time at OSU.

[40:13] How grooming is crucial to horsemanship, as well as the many tasks that help build OSU's talented team.

[44:11] What does it mean to be part of a school that values horses and cowboy heritage? And do these aspects result in greater campus interest in the equestrian team?

[49:06] How NCAA equestrian competitions work and how points are won.

[51:13] The strategies Coach Sanchez employs in competitions.

[53:58] What schools are part of the Big 12? And which equestrian competitor is the team to beat?

[56:08] What drew Coach Sanchez to coaching in the first place and how he got his job at Oklahoma State.

[1:00:00] Guidance Coach Sanchez has for parents in helping to support their kids in collegiate-level equestrian sports.

[1:02:34] Where to find Coach Sanchez and the OSU equestrian team online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Larry Sanchez

Coach Sanchez’s Coaching Staff page on OKState.com

OKState.com

Mentioned in this Episode:

Oklahoma State University

National Collegiate Equestrian Association (NCEA)

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Elise’s guest today is Alan Day -- author, owner and operator of the first sanctuary for wild Mustangs, and Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's brother. As a third-generation cattleman and rancher, Alan’s upbringing branded him a cowboy from the day he was born. Growing up on his family’s historic 200,000-acre Lazy B Ranch cemented his love for the land and for horses. And his love for books and a story well-told led him to become the best-selling author that he is today.

Ranching and the cowboy life is — as he says — in his blood. So, after graduating from the University of Arizona, he returned to manage the Lazy B for the next 40 years, along with his two other massive ranches (in Nebraska and South Dakota).

Alan embodies all that is good about the American West's cowboy code — putting in a hard day’s work, not quitting until the job is done, never complaining about the hand you were dealt, being good for your word, being a good steward of the land, and putting your horses’ needs and well-being before your own. He also embodies the cowboy tradition for telling great stories, from hanging out for a couple days with Kevin Costner (not a movie-goer, Alan had no idea who the actor was, but thought he was "a nice fella"), to literally being hung from a hook on the front porch of his family's bunkhouse by a World War II vet who'd had enough of his five-year-old pestering... Alan shares a fascinating world of experiences.

You’ll love listening in to hear Alan reminisce on his days of growing up on and managing the historic Lazy B, founded in 1880, including his grandfather's narrow escape from Apache, as well as Alan's years managing 1,500 wild mustangs — and how he poured his heart into caring for them and the land in his keeping

Topics of Discussion:

[1:37] Alan recalls the days of growing up on his family’s ranch and some of the lessons he learned.

[6:03] A story about his first cattle drive when he was five years old.

[14:06] A story about Alan’s grandfather, who settled the ranch in 1880.

[16:17] Commenter shout-outs! (Reading commenter’s comments!)

[18:22] What the history and heritage of Alan’s family’s ranch mean to him.

[19:53] A working ranch in the truest sense; only a family’s hard work to take care of the ranch.

[24:24] Alan’s ingenuity on the ranch.

[28:45] How Alan views his legacy.

[31:25] What it means to be a cowboy and an important lesson for those who manage land.

[34:22] About Alan’s book and how his co-author helped present his stories.

[36:00] The process of creating Mustang Meadow Ranch and the motivation that led him to it.

[38:19] An excerpt from Alan’s book about the creation of Mustang Meadow Ranch from The Horse Lover.

[39:58] What Alan learned from the people who handle rounded-up mustangs right off the range (the BLM).

[42:23] How Alan applied what he learned from herding cattle to the group of wild mustangs he was working with.

[46:10] The critical lesson in learning how to manage the wild mustangs; making friends and moving them without panic.

[48:00] What makes a mustang unsuitable for adoption?

[50:31] What Alan wishes the average American understood about the current situation with mustangs throughout the West.

[55:50] Pieces of advice from Cowboy Up! and some of the stories behind them.

[1:00:30] Where to find Alan Day online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Alan Day

TheHorseLover.com

AlanDayAuthor.com

Amazon Author Page

Mentioned in this Episode:

No Limits Training and Life Lessons with Brandi Lyons

Life at Full Throttle: Sports Reporter and Analyst, Catie Staszak

Five-minute video on the history of Lazy B Ranch (sign up to view at the top of the page)
The Horse Lover: A Cowboy's Quest to Save the Wild Mustangs, by H. Alan Day
and Lynn Wiese Sneyd

Wild Horse Annie

Cowboy Up!: Life Lessons from the Lazy B, by H. Alan Day and Lynn Wiese Sneyd

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If you're a fan of international-level show jumping, chances are you already know today's guest, Catie Staszak. Throughout the show season, Catie leads broadcasts from top horse shows and jumping events across North America, working for FEI TV, the NBC Sports Network, Carr-Hughes Productions, and the digital company ShowNet, among others. She also serves as the media and public relations manager for EQUILINE America, and has worked on the TV and radio teams at ESPN West Palm. Though Catie’s specialty is covering horse-related sports, she’s also covered NFL football and collegiate women’s rowing.

On those few occasions Catie isn't hard at work broadcasting from a sporting event, she's competing in adult equitation divisions, herself. In 2017, she won the Palm Beach Adult Medal during Week Four at Wellington on her leased horse, Agnes Augusta. And she "only" graduated from the University of Miami (Valedictorian, natch) four years ago.

From a young age, Catie knew what she wanted to do – broadcast journalism. And covering sports was a no-brainer, growing up as she did in a sports-infused home with her Mom and Dad, with whom she is very close. And if the last name sounds familiar, it's because her dad is Ray Staszak, the legendary Detroits Red Wings hockey player.

In today's episode, Elise and Catie discuss Catie’s focus on melding her passion for horses and for broadcast journalism, the real behind-the-scenes life of a sports reporter, her humorous moments with legendary athletes, and Catie's advice for pursuing your dreams.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:37] The common element that is shared by all of the sports Catie covers.

[1:48] Catie’s sports background growing up.

[3:19] The common bond that unites competitors and athletes.

[6:00] About Catie’s experience and accomplishments as a competitive rider, and how she made the switch to a reporter and commentator.

[9:50] How Catie balances work with her show schedule.

[16:39] As the daughter of non-equestrian parents, how their support has affected her.

[20:35] Catie’s fond memories of Snow Day, her first pony.

[22:33] Does Catie ever have "fan-girl" moments when interviewing legendary athletes?

[23:40] Interviews and stories that stick out in Catie’s memories.

[26:02] Putting into perspective the level of equestrian competition Catie reports on.

[30:22] Sporting events Catie would love to cover in the future.

[31:11] Catie’s "triple threat": writing for magazines, appearing on TV, and on-air radio reporting.

[33:00] How Catie puts bad days behind her and how to focus on the positive.

[34:54] How Catie defines success.

[35:36] Elise shares some listener feedback!

[37:29] The truth behind achieving your dreams and pursuing your passions.

[43:30] Characteristics that are vital to pursuing a life that incorporates your passion.

[45:05] Advice to others pursuing a dream similar to Catie’s.

[46:22] Where to follow Catie online and watch her reporting.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Catie Staszak

Website: CatieStaszak.com

Social Media: Twitter and Instagram

Where to Watch: TV.FEI, NESN, TSN and NBC Sports.

Blogs: EquilineAmerica.com/Blog and ShowNet.Biz/Blog/Posts

Mentioned in this Episode:

Donna Brothers

Triple Crown Horse Racing

Because of Horses Episode 9 with Donna Brothers

Beezie Madden

Karen O’ Connor

Ian Millar

Longines FEI World Cup Jumping North American League

Kent Farrington

George Morris Horsemastership Training Session

Off Track Thoroughbreds

Nick Skelton

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Renowned trainer and clinician, Brandi Lyons, joins Elise Chand on today's episode to discuss her "No Limits" training and the life lessons she's learned along the way – some heart-lifting, some heart-breaking, but all are incredibly inspiring.

Brandi is known not only for her expertise, but also for her incredible poise, patience, and kindness. And yes — she is also the daughter of “The World's Most Trusted Horseman,” John Lyons. But she doesn’t just carry on with one of the most trusted names in the horse industry, she elevates to the next level the work her father began. Brandi's perspective on the horse/human bond is not only fresh and eye-opening, but is based on a wealth of knowledge and a lifetime of experience.

In this episode of Because of Horses, Elise and Brandi talk about her approach to training horses, the horse/human bond, what Brandi believes the future of training horses will bring, and how her own life experiences enhanced the way Brandi works with horses and riders.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:03] How growing up around horses and observing her father's, John Lyons, training methods affected Brandi's life and career choice.

[5:11] All about Brandi’s “no limits” approach to training.

[14:20] Brandi’s important technique for training horses for success.

[21:40] Brandi's thoughts on how training horses is evolving and what she anticipates for the future.

[25:11] When facing the horse's fears is counter-productive and how to eliminate them through Brandi’s technique of elimination, repetition, and cues.

[30:48] Adjusting to the horse’s needs and feelings, ending on a high point, and the importance of sometimes leaving the training agenda behind.

[35:55] Where Brandi’s incredible poise, patience, and kindness come from.

[40:38] How Brandi feels when a horse and rider achieve that "a-ha" moment.

[41:31] Brandi describes the line between encouraging your horse and forcing your horse.

[45:09] How can you tell when a horse is enjoying a session and when he’s had enough?

[48:29] What success means to Brandi.

[49:52] About the recent loss of her beloved horse and persevering.

[53:50] Where to follow Brandi online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guest — Brandi Lyons

Facebook Page: Brandi Lyons Horse Training

Website: LyonsNoLimits.com

Phone #: 623-261-6352

Mentioned in this Episode:

John Lyons

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Elise’s guest this week is science journalist and author, Wendy Williams. Her writing has appeared in a wide variety of publications, including; Scientific American, Science, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Christian Science Monitor, and Audubon Magazine. She is a lifelong equestrian and is legendary for her love of horses. In her New York Times best-selling book, The Horse: The Epic History of Our Noble Companion, Wendy chronicles 56 million years through extensive research and her conversations with horse experts from around the world, revealing how our biological affinities and differences help to define the horse/human bond. She shares her belief that horses and humans are bound to one another in a way that is somehow encoded in our genes.

Join Elise and Wendy today, as they dive into the rich history of horses, discussing their evolution, the connection between horses and humans, and how civilization has been affected through culture and language. They also discuss and take a look at Wendy’s views on the evolution of training horses, her insights into the nuances of the horse/human relationship, and the horse's future as the world becomes more mechanized.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:51] What stood out to Wendy during her research and conversations with experts for her book, The Horse: The Epic History of Our Noble Companion.

[2:50] 56 million years ago, horses were the size of the average household cat.

[4:13] How writing her book changed Wendy’s views of horses

[6:26] The similarities between horses and humans through a common evolutionary ancestor.

[7:53] Wendy’s suspicions on what humans have yet to learn about horses.

[10:38] Why Wendy believes it’s now time to view horses’ free-roaming behavior, systematically and over the long term.

[15:35] Where horses come from and where they evolved.

[21:00] How Wendy sees our relationship with horses evolving in the future.

[22:40] The challenge of being unbiased in the science world.

[26:14] The evidence that shows how people have always been fascinated by horses.

[29:31] How horses have been instrumental in our own culture and language.

[32:45] The adaptability and resilience of the horse.

[35:25] The nuances of the horse/human relationship.

[39:17] How Wendy views the evolution of training horses where people are trying to be more in tune with their horses.

[41:58] Wendy’s thoughts on how horses have evolved due to human intervention.

[46:54] Wendy’s insights into the current Mustang battle between conservationists, politicians, ranchers, and horse lovers.

[54:36] Why Wendy thinks people love horses so much and how some people are born with the "horse-loving gene."

[59:53] How Wendy came to write about horses.

[1:08:14] Wendy’s last notes on the future of horses and where to find Wendy and her books online.

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Her books on Amazon.com

Twitter: @TheNobleHorse

Mentioned in this Episode:

The Horse: The Epic History of Our Noble Companion, by Wendy Williams

Scientific American

Science

The Wall Street Journal

The New York Times

Christian Science Monitor

Audubon Magazine

BecauseofHorses.com

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Elise’s guest today on the Because of Horses podcast is Bianca McCarty — an up-and-coming, truly gifted equine photographer. Bianca was born and raised in Germany, but now lives with her husband on a beautiful Lusitano ranch in Colorado. Bianca shoots a wide array of subjects within the equine category — from competitive events and portraiture, to candid shots for veterinarians, saddlers, breeders, and even equine massage therapists. Bianca has a rare gift for composition and perspective, bringing new life to "standard" competition shots. And she has an eye for finding beauty in even the most mundane activities... like rasping a horse’s teeth.

Bianca is a published photographer, with her work appearing in several equine calendars, as well as many respected horse publications such as Horse & Rider, The Chronicle of the Horse, Dressage Today, Equine Journal, The Horse Magazine, and Horse Connection.

Join Elise as Bianca shares how she came to the US alone and, at a young age, began her career; her determination to live her life by "leaning into" things that make her nervous; her photographic process; and her ongoing hopes and dreams.

Topics of Discussion:

[1:09] What brought Bianca to the States and how her interest in photography flourished.

[4:18] Bianca’s sense of adventure that helped lead her to where she is now.

[7:11] Overcoming challenges in college, including her own doubts about speaking English.

[11:44] Bianca’s choice to move to Colorado and how life could have been different.

[13:33] Living her dream life and the courage it took to achieve it.

[19:08] The versatility of Bianca’s equine photography.

[20:50] Bianca’s process of photographing and finding beauty in the mundane.

[27:29] The magic of each of Bianca’s equine shots.

[30:15] How she feels when she sees her work appear in respected print publications.

[32:30] Another field Bianca would like to grow in.

[32:50] Bianca’s love of horses and growing up with horses.

[34:40] How Bianca got involved in dressage.

[35:45] Bianca’s goals for her future and what she hopes to accomplish.

[40:41] How Bianca defines success in her career.

[43:28] Overcoming self-doubt and staying committed to your passion; Bianca’s experience after finishing her photography degree.

[50:00] What separates a good photographer from a great one and the personal characteristics needed to pursue your passion.

[53:23] Bianca’s favorite camera gear and what she uses when shooting.

[55:23] Finding a camera that worked for her; Bianca’s lack of geekiness for new camera equipment.

[1:01:35] Bianca’s parting words and advice to people to follow their passions.

[1:04:30] Where to find Bianca’s work and follow her online.

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BiancaMcCartyEquinePhoto.com
Facebook: @BiancaMcCartyEquinePhoto

Instagram: @BiancaMcCarty_EquinePhoto

Mentioned in this Episode:

Horse & Rider

The Chronicle of the Horse

Dressage Today

Equine Journal

The Horse Magazine

Horse Connection

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On this week’s Because of Horses podcast, Elise talks with a guest panel about equine therapy — Founder of Equest Therapeutic Riding Susan Schwartz, Equest’s CEO Lili Kellogg, and Jeff Hensley, Director of Clinical and Veteran Services of Equest’s Hooves for Heroes program.

Equest is a nonprofit, therapeutic riding center in Dallas, Texas. For 37 years, Equest has helped people live fuller, richer lives by connecting them with horses. Historically, their focus has been on special needs populations — children and adults with physical, emotional or cognitive disabilities — but for the last six years, through the Hooves for Heroes program, they have extended their reach to veterans and military families, helping them transition back to civilian life.

As one of the first therapeutic riding programs in the US, Equest is renowned for its legacy of caring, in addition to its stellar clinical success. Episode 12's guest panel discusses how Equest began, the program's evolution, the staff's day-to-day activities, and their personal observations and experiences. The work Susan, Lili, and Jeff perform some might describe as borderline miraculous: giving comfort and peace to those with PTSD, depression, or severe anxiety; providing a place of belonging and hope to many who’ve been marginalized and viewed as disabled; sharing the freedom, power, and speed of riding for individuals with physical limitations. For the staff and volunteers at Equest and Hooves for Heroes, this is only a small glimpse of the incredible difference they’re making every single day in the lives of the people they serve.

Topic of Discussion:

[2:08] Equest Founder Susan Schwartz discusses Equest's start.

[7:00] Susan’s awareness of the "stars aligning" in creating Equest.

[9:28] The amazing feedback from family members whose loved ones improved through therapeutic riding.

[10:25] Susan’s touching experience with a mother whose child's shoes became dirty.

[13:09] How the program is changing the lives of the volunteers and staff, as well as the participants.

[14:00] Equest’s testimonials reveal the powerful nature of their program.

[17:42] Lili describes the connection between the horse and participant, and its role in therapeutic riding.

[22:09] How the first two riders inspired the program's original name, “Free to Ride.”

[24:19] The nuanced benefits of riding horses and having horses in your life.

[25:34] Lili’s touching story from another therapeutic riding program.

[27:16] The common denominator among Equest’s riders. no matter their age, ethnicity, or challenge.

[28:11] Jeff speaks about their veterans' program, Hooves for Heroes, and how it has changed his own life.

[29:40] About Jeff’s service to the U.S. military and his transition back to civilian life.

[31:50] How Jeff came to join Equest, became head of the veteran’s program, and how the experience aided his own healing.

[35:33] How Hooves for Heroes has helped military family members and veterans.

[39:12] The evolution of equine therapy and Susan's view of its future.

[43:53] Jeff’s insight on the importance of sharing therapeutic riding with the world.

[44:49] Susan touches on the history of therapeutic riding and why she believes the industry has changed so much since she got involved.

[46:41] Lili’s views on the development of therapeutic riding.

[48:34] Overall advice for people looking for a therapeutic riding programs near them.

[50:55] The incredible facilities, horses, and volunteers at Equest.

[54:19] Closing thoughts from Lili, Susan, and Jeff.

[55:26] Where to find more information on Equest and Hooves for Heroes.

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Website: Equest.org

Social Media: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Vimeo

Mentioned in this Episode:

PATH International

Horses and Humans Research Foundation

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While there are legions of talented female farriers around the globe, it remains a predominantly male profession. So, it’s especially fascinating that the Executive Director of The American Farriers Association happens to be a woman — who, having attended Mount Holyoke College and Yale School of Management, also happens to be incredibly well-educated.

With terrific insight and a wonderful sense of humor, Elise’s guest today, Beth Daniels, takes the old adage, “No hoof, no horse,” to entirely new levels. Through her role with the AFA, Beth has helped to champion the critical need for a team approach between the horse owner, the equine vet, and the farrier to ensure the best possible care for horses. Utilizing cutting-edge materials, critical scientific research, and a vet-unified team approach, AFA is helping to tackle problems like navicular syndrome, laminitis, and other chronic conditions — to not only increase horses’ comfort, but also their longevity and athleticism. For Beth and the professional, international AFA members, it’s not just a job -- it's a genuine dedication to horses' well-being, marked by passion and devotion.

Beth joins Elise today to discuss her role in the AFA, how she became Executive Director, where and when her love for horses began, the importance of farriers in equine health, and the personal characteristics vital to pursuing one's passion. Listen in to hear her perspective on horses, their health, and educating owners on the critical importance of developing a partnership between themselves, their vets, and their farriers.

Topic of Discussion:

[2:07] Beth’s path to becoming AFA’s Executive Director.

[3:35] What Beth’s volunteer experiences have meant to her and the drive behind trying different roles.

[5:00] Where Beth’s love of adventure began.

[7:08] When Beth became interested in horses.

[9:36] A funny interaction between Elise and a stranger.

[11:06] A similar trait Beth has noticed as well, that parallels Elise’s story.

[12:53] How Beth’s love of horses has guided the decisions she's made throughout her life.

[15:18] The love of horses.

[16:43] What Beth thinks about the debate of following one’s passion versus developing a more mainstream career.

[21:44] The personal characteristics that are vital for pursuing one's passion.

[25:18] The importance of keeping a positive script within your mind.

[26:37] What’s at stake when we don’t follow our dreams?

[32:20] Taking steps towards a positive change and improving yourself.

[39:23] What success looks like to Beth.

[41:54] An important life lesson Beth learned from her mother.

[43:45] A life lesson from Randy Pausch.

[44:55] How Beth describes the AFA to those unfamiliar with the organization.

[49:30] The difference between a farrier and a blacksmith.

[50:48] How to distinguish between a good and a great farrier.

[53:38] How can horse owners make the farrier’s job easier and safer?

[55:52] What happens when a farrier gets ill or injured, and can’t work?

[56:51] Partnering for horse health: developing the perfect three-way relationship between the horse owner, veterinarian, and the farrier.

[1:01:23] The importance of the farrier role.

[1:06:17] Where to learn more about AFA.

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The American Farriers Association

Mentioned in this Episode:

Annie Leibovitz

The Last Lecture, by Randy Pausch

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Elise’s guests this week are country performers and songwriters, husband and wife, Templeton Thompson and Sam Gay — who are currently on tour together, performing at venues all across the U.S.A.

Sam is a longtime veteran of the music industry, starting out in Memphis, playing guitar and singing in local bands. After moving to Nashville, he signed on as a staff songwriter at the legendary Acuff-Rose Publishing Company, where a number of his songs had tremendous success.

Templeton began writing music very early on, following an Arista Records internship, and Reba McEntire recorded one of her songs in which she also performed as a backup singer. Templeton and Sam have provided music for the award-winning film producer and director, Cindy Meehl — who is best known for her films Buck and Unbranded. And their music video for “When I Get That Pony Rode” was produced by Meehl and it reached number one on Country Music Television and on Great American Country’s Top 10 list for eight weeks.

Join Elise this week on Because of Horses as Templeton and Sam talk about sharing their dreams, writing music and performing together, and the ups and downs of living in the spotlight. We'll also listen to excerpts of some of their songs and learn about the creative process behind each.

Topic of Discussion:

[:46] Excerpt of “Cowgirl Creed,” by Templeton Thompson.

[1:46] Introduction of this week's guests, Templeton Thompson and Sam Gay.

[3:11] The story of how Templeton and Sam’s musical and marital journey began.

[11:38] How the song “Bring it on Home Chrome” was created and raised money for Old Friends Equine, an organization dedicated to helping retired racehorses.

[18:17] Born horse-crazy: Templeton on growing up and the role horses played.

[22:00] Behind the scenes of pursuing their dreams.

[32:30] The emotionally touching emails and notes Templeton receives.

[33:48] The incredible vulnerability of performing.

[35:55] How Sam and Templeton describe their country music and what they love about it.

[41:52] An excerpt of their song, “Girls and Horses,” and the creation, inspiration, and meaning behind it.

[43:56] How Templeton’s horse, Jane, became a Breyer Horse model.

[48:28] Elise’s horse of a lifetime: the Andalusian stallion, Novelisto.

[52:14] The role horses have played in Sam’s life, Templeton’s take on integrating horses into their marriage, and their journeys with their horses, Bo and Jane.

[1:05:20] An excerpt from “Life is Good,” Sam and Templeton’s song, and how they wrote it.

[1:11:42] Funny family stories.

[1:14:50] Where to find Sam and Templeton online.

[1:17:44] Excerpt from “Life on Planet Cowgirl.”

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Discover More About this Week’s Guests — Templeton Thompson and Sam Gay

Youtube Channel

Templeton’s Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram

TempletonThompson.com

“Hippie Chick Cowgirl” Album Preorder

Bluff House Concert Acoustic sessions

Mentioned in this Episode:

Old Friends Equine

Fossil Rim Ranch

Breyer Horses

BreyerFest2018

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It’s not always easy to spot the path you’re meant to take, even when it’s laid out, right in front of you. Sometimes, you just can’t see it… and yet, your instincts tell you it’s there. So when you’re provided with a shot to give it a try, you somehow know to take it. And, once taken, it’s abundantly clear that you’re exactly where you’re meant to be. This is the path Donna Barton Brothers took to become one of the most successful female jockeys of all time.

The daughter of one of the US’s first licensed female jockeys who, to this day, is revered as a living legend. The sister of two successful jockeys in their own right. Married to a top trainer. And herself still numbered among the most successful female jockeys of all time, Donna not only recognizes the role Thoroughbred racing has played throughout her life – she is extraordinarily grateful for the people, the industry, and for the horses, themselves.

These days, as Donna says, she has the best job on Earth – reporting for ESPN, NBC Sports, and TVG Network, the victories, as well as the heartbreaks, and the behind-the-barn stories of the very people she’s called family, friends, and colleagues throughout her life. And she does it with the same intensity and determination – and, now, terrific joy – that she once burst from the starting gates on the back of a sleek Thoroughbred.

Topic of Discussion:

[1:49] When racing became Donna’s passion.

[5:45] Did Donna ever read any of Walter Farley’s books?

[7:50] Donna’s first horse — a Shetland pony.

[10:25] Donna’s journey with horse racing and what it has meant to her.

[12:13] How horse racing led to meeting her husband.

[13:15] Being a jockey — not just a profession, but a lifestyle.

[18:35] The gamble in every horse race: the danger of being a jockey.
[23:01] The recognition of mortality vs. the joy of riding.

[26:58] About Donna’s mother.

[28:20] Sharing her success with her mother, the 6th licensed female jockey in the U.S.

[30:30] About Hennessy, one of the most famous horses Donna rode, and the 1995 Breeders' Cup Juvenile race against Unbridled’s Song.

[30:33] A cute story about the pony Elise bought for her daughter: a small Welsh pony mare named Little Bit.

[35:37] The horses that stand out in Donna’s memory and the rapport jockeys need to build with each individual horse.

[39:57] Donna’s funny but touching story about a horse she rode, Trick Artist.

[42:50] The thing about being a great jockey according to Donna.

[44:08] Why Donna thinks the Triple Crown has proven to be so elusive.

[47:07] Donna’s description of what a "stalking position" is and overall racing strategies.

[49:04] The lack of presence of women in racing and what Donna thinks might factor into this.

[55:21] CNN’s video on female jockeys and how it struck Elise; the apparent attitudes about female jockeys.

[57:47] How Donna made the move into her current position of racing correspondent.

[1:02:04] How Donna manages to remain professionally detached in her interviews.

[1:04:27] The incredible experience of talking with the winning riders and how Donna manages to squeeze in all her questions in the small timeframe TV news allots for each interview.

[1:09:04] Donna’s measure of success: what success looks like to her.

[1:11:35] What’s next for Donna.

[1:13:30] Donna’s advice to young girls interested in becoming involved in horse racing and the challenges young women face getting into the industry.

[1:18:23] Where to find Donna online.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guests — Donna Barton Brothers

Website: DonnaBrothers.com

Twitter: @donnabbrothers

Mentioned in this Episode:

The American Quarter Horses Association’s World Championship Show

Hambletonian Stakes

Rolex Kentucky Three-Day Event

FEI World Equestrian Games

Dick Francis, Author

Thoroughbred Aftercare Alliance

Backside Learning Center

1995 Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Race, Unbridled’s Song and Hennessy

The Triple Crown

Thoroughbred Women’s Network

Fasig-Tipton

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As even the most passionate horse-crazy kids grow up, life frequently takes them down career paths that don't include the animal that dominated so many of their childhood dreams. But Suzi Vlietstra's professional life couldn't have been crafted more meticulously if she'd created a blueprint in the very moment she laid eyes on her first pony, Brian -- a Christmas present from non-equestrian parents who recognized how deeply she connected with horses. That family love and involvement would go on to inspire the skills and creativity that led to Suzi's founding Hobby Horse Inc. -- the largest designer and manufacturer of western show attire in the world.

While Hobby Horse Inc. opened over 30 years ago, its true origins began in Suzi's mother's attic sewing studio, with her mom teaching Suzi to sew a wild assortment of costumes and accessories for a variety of Shetlands, Paints, hunters, and trail horses.

Join Elise and Suzi in this week’s episode to learn more about how Suzi took her business from concept to reality, her expert guidance on impressing judges in the show ring, and the role of horses in her life.

Topic of Discussion:

[2:24] What Hobby Horse Inc's growth has meant to Suzi Vlietstra.

[2:50] Suzi was born with the horse-loving gene.

[3:09] About Suzi’s first horse: Brian the pony.

[5:18] Elise shares some stories of her first pony, Barney.

[6:33] More about Brian, the neighborhood celebrity pony.

[7:37] Dotty the Appaloosa filly: Suzi’s first training project.

[8:15] Suzi’s early experiences and how they led to the genesis of Hobby Horse Inc.

[12:45] The love of horse equipment: every piece of tack becomes a beloved memento.

[15:15] Suzi’s talent for writing: Elise reads an excerpt from Suzi's blog.

[18:35] The Kentucky Horse Park and the rich history of horses.

[20:21] Suzi’s writings: from her informative "how to" posts, to what judges look for in the show ring, to her reminiscences about being a horse-crazy girl.

[23:53] Selling Hobby Horse to a new owner and how the company has evolved.

[27:37] The various points in time when Suzi recognized Hobby Horse's success.

[30:00] How Hobby Horse has grown — from concept to thriving business, and handing it off to the next generation.

[32:18] How Hobby Horse has married the strategic components of competition with the personal expression of individuals' fashion style.

[35:44] Partnering with their clients: Hobby Horse’s great website and catalog, and how they help support and educate customers.

[40:05] What Suzi think judges look for in the competitive arenda.

[43:44] The importance of dressing well to compete and the differences between English and Western fashion styles.

[48:04] Suzi’s funny story of how she answers others' questions about what she does for a living.

[49:50] The importance of looking your best during a competition.

[50:37] Where to learn more about Hobby Horse and how to find Suzi online.

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Website: Hobby Horse Incorporated

Facebook: @hobbyhorseinc

Phone: (800)-569-5885

Email: suzi@hobbyhorseinc.com

Mentioned in this Episode:

Walter Farley

Marguerite Henry

Anna Sewell

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Following one’s passion isn’t always about making our own life better; sometimes we get a unique opportunity to fully harness the skills, talent, experience, connections, and interests we possess, in the service of someone we love.

This is precisely what happened to Elise Gaston Chand’s guest this week — Rupert Isaacson — whose son, Rowan, was diagnosed with autism at two. In Rupert’s quest to help his little boy, he utilized every skill he possessed as an internationally recognized journalist and a New York Times best-selling author. Which is why, when they received the diagnosis, Rupert began an epic journey to Mongolia to find an approach that was both ancient... and radically new from the perspective of "modern" therapy.

Autism has reached pandemic proportions, affecting 1 in 58 children. Nobody can agree on its cause, but Rupert Isaacson has expanded his quest of helping Rowan to, now, helping improve the lives of autistic children and families, and to change the world's unhealthy view of autism. To this end, Rupert wrote two books (The Horse Boy and The Long Ride Home), filmed a critically acclaimed documentary, and established The Horse Boy Foundation. Through his partnership with neurologists and therapists around the globe, he has engaged science to prove his approach radically improves autists' lives. And he utilizes every opportunity to personally carry his message to the world — through clinics, conferences, personal appearances, and talking with anyone who'll listen. In short, Rupert is doing everything in his power to shift our thinking about autism and how to support autists in a more nurturing and effective way.

Join Elise Gaston Chand and Rupert Isaacson in this week’s episode of Because of Horses to learn how horses led to the remarkable "Horse Boy Method," how talking with adult autists like the legendary Dr. Temple Grandin has helped Rupert better understand what autistic children need, to learn about his journey through Mongolia with a film crew as he struggled to find anything that would help his young son, as well as Rupert's guidance and recommendations for other parents who are looking for answers.

Topic of Discussion:

[1:56] The early days of receiving the diagnosis of their son, Rowan — what it was like, and where they initially sought help for better understanding of their son’s condition.

[6:16] Rupert’s understanding of how autists experience autism; the insights he gained from his conversations with Dr. Temple Grandin.

[9:37] Autism symptoms and challenges.

[10:17] Their experience in Mongolia and with shamanism.

[13:19] How therapeutic riding works (The Horse Boy Method) and how Rupert has translated that into homeschooling in their day-to-day lives.

[16:30] Using Rowan’s experience to create an accessible method for all people -- a horse isn't necessary -- and the academic recognition they’ve achieved.

[17:34] An explanation of shamanism.

[20:41] Rupert’s efforts to support Rowan and how that is helping tens of thousands of people worldwide.

[21:44] Spending time with Indigenous groups — what Rupert has learned from them.

[23:26] About Rupert’s journey through Mongolia and bringing a film crew along.

[25:36] Raw moments in Mongolia and what it was like being filmed.

[28:27] Rupert’s journey during the writing of The Horse Boy novel.

[31:37] When that healthy reliance on proven treatments becomes an impediment to utilizing new methods that have positive outcomes.

[34:00] The Horse Boy novel’s review from Lee Grossman, former President of the Autism Society of America.

[34:36] Rupert's perspective on how The Horse Boy has helped other people.

[35:50] Rupert’s recommendations and guidance to parents raising autistic children.

[37:39] What’s next for Rupert and Rowan.

[38:50] Rupert’s dream: to serve one million families every week.

[40:20] Rupert’s relationship with Rowan today.

[43:13] The importance of being open to learning from your child and others.

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Discover More About this Week’s Guests — Rupert Isaacson

Horse Boy Foundation

The Horse Boy Facebook Page

Rupert’s Amazon Author Page

KidsMustMove.com/HorseBoyWorld.com/NTLS.co

Mentioned in this Episode:

Dr. Temple Grandin

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