Tea with sg: Recent Episodes
Sean Glass
Tea. With sg. My birthday is August 1st. I see this as a platform to explore ideas. Movies, music and tea are probably the areas that interest me most. But I'll go all over the place. I want to expand the format of 'podcast' and really go in new directions. I always love feedback. Notes, video versions of episodes, extras and all the rest of my work like music, films and clothes on @sdotglass and www.sean.glass Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/teawithsg/support
S05E12 @Reunion newsletter dropped today. Podcast will now be on Substack, with only previews here. Sign up at: reunionwattba.substack.com Sam Wasson just released The Path to Paradise: A Francis Ford Coppola Story, which completes a trilogy of sorts following The Big Goodbye: Chinatown and the Last Years of Hollywood and Hollywood: The Oral History. The books traverse the full history of the Hollywood studio system, bookended (literally wow haha so fun to say that) by the dive deep into the last time the studio system worked, and the most valiant attempt at continuing it. Now we have TikTok. Enjoy our talk and check the newsletter for more. https://www.samwasson.com/
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Ryan Czerwonko @ryanczerwonko runs Adult Film @adultfilm.nyc an NYC collective of actors, writers, and directors focusing on theater, actor training, filmmaking, and film screenings. He's an example of a contemporary actor who the industry didn't hand everything to...so he took his own control. We're excited to host an improv and film event this Friday November 10 to exhibit multiple facets of that work and the community he built. Hope to see you there. RSVP
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Fernando Reinaldos @fernandoreinaldos will show his short film The End Monday November 6 with Reunion at Alamo Drafthouse. It's one of the film's he's made as part of his Columbia MFA film program. I'm really excited that the actresses in the movie will be present to watch with an audience. It's a meditative piece that can spark conversation, with a few aspects requiring interpretation that those from different walks of life will bring significantly divergent takes to. RSVP here.
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Arthur Gay @arthur.elias.gay will show his latest short Sunshine City on November 6th at Reunion shorts night at Alamo Drafthouse. This is his third and he's working on his fourth, which will be his Columbia grad school thesis. Feature might come first. We talk a lot about the state of collaboration in the arts today. Hope to see you Monday. Tickets free with RSVP here.
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Mateen Stewart @mateenstewart is a comedian, standup producer and host of Late for Work, a weekly comedy night in Los Angeles that will have their NYC debut tomorrow night, Sunday November 5th with Reunion cohosting. The lineup is great, should be a fun time. We talk a lot about the comedy industry, how development on late night shows has been replaced by viral video pursuits. Similar to film, the bottom line is putting butts in seats. Hope to see you tomorrow night. https://wl.seetickets.us/event/late-for-work/570037?afflky=TheCuttingRoom&source=ev
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Sophie Compton @sophietaracompton & Reuben Hamlyn @urghreub released their debut feature SXSW Special Jury Award winning doc Another Body last week. It’s a real life horror movie. We actually talked to some genre fests about playing it in horror blocks, didn’t work out because of timing. It bears down on a specific aspect of the AI conversation—deep fake porn. At the heart of it is an investigation into the psychological torment that brings the perpetrators to commit these acts on victims they know and don’t, as well as the obvious torment that befalls the victims. There’s a giant, multi layered rabbit hole in the narrative. Some actual formal twists rarely found in a documentary. Go see the movie if it’s playing nearby, just for the conversations you’ll have with audience members outside the theater, or PVOD it at home with some friends. https://anotherbodyfilm.com/the-film/
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Demian Rugna @demianrugna drops his latest When Evil Lurks on Shudder Friday October 27th. Perfect Halloween watch. Damien is one of few working today who, in my view, do horror right. This guy just goes for it. Horror is its own layer of cinema, it sends us to places within ourselves that other film does not. Analysis is cool, but the sensation horror derives is its own experience. Nothing generates our repressed feelings and connects our fight or flight processes in their most effective usage like a horror movie that knows its purpose. Rugna is all killer no filler. He’s not a jump scare guy—but his jump scares have been literally replicated in some of the biggest movies of the decade. He’s not an ‘elevated’ horror guy—but the mythology he creates runs well deeper than American horror, the themes tracked between his works of suburban poison are essay worthy, and there are many still images worth screen grabbing. I wasn’t surprised to learn his influences land on early 80s sensational movies. 60s were art. 70s production. 80s style. Rugna uses plot and characters and tone to deliver style. The holes in his stories aren’t really holes, they’re the housing for what matters. His movies emphasize bringing the audience where he wants them to go, and he succeeds. Check out Terrifiedand When Evil Lurks b2b on Shudder.
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DW Young (https://www.dwyoungfilm.com/) premiered his latest short Dancing on the Silk Razor at Woodstock Film Fest shortly before playing at last week’s Reunion night at Alamo Drafthouse NYC. It gifts us 20 minutes of Wallace Shawn narration (including the word ‘conceivable’!) telling a story built off a single line written years ago by a friend of DW’s. The story reminds me of the particular existential dread of Paul Auster. It’s a very New York and Jewish and male existential dread in my sense. Something to watch after reading Groucho Marx’s biography. The actor portraying the subject could not not have had a beard. It’s very analog, as we talk about. DW most recently released his documentary The Booksellers, a love letter to a certain type of upper west sider or a person who calls the area now known as west village ‘Greenwich Village’. One of my favorite faux-nostalgic feelings for times I did not experience is NYC when we had a ‘book row.’ I appreciate DW’s work because I have a relationship with all of the feelings he seems to be investigating. I feel like the lens is pointed at me and his work leaves me considering my choices. I love art like this. Art that makes me think. The best testament I can get after a Reunion night is people asking for intros and links to share the works with friends, which I’ve received a few of since last week. DW and Judith Mizrachy have their latest documentary Uncropped, the story of photographer James Hamilton, another analog NYC story, premiering as centerpiece of DOC NYC in November. Please check it out. https://www.docnyc.net/film/uncropped/
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Justin timms @justin_timms is the Creative Director of Brooklyn Horror Film Festival and Co-Founder of Yellow Veil Pictures. BK Horror kicked off last night beginning its annual survey of the genre at Nitehawk. This is NYC’s preeminent genre fest, akin to Fantastic, Fantasia, Beyond, Sitges. Justin saw this gap ten years ago and filled it beautifully. The festival has packed screenings and after parties every night. They cover all the ground, prems and favs from festivals like Sundance, features and shorts. Restorations of important horror classics and classes with Miskatonic. This year they’re commencing a new award with the first honoree Bill Lustig. Maniac is probably tied with Wolfen to me as favorite NYC horror movie, but also one of my favorite movies period. Joe Spinell in the greatest horror performance ever, period. Yellow Veil’s slate is exploding this year, ramping up more releases than ever before, all killer no filler. Love what both of Justin’s companies do and was a pleasure to chat with him. You can get some freebies with our BK Horror Fest giveaway linked here.
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Sonia Kennebeck @soniakennebeck opens her new documentary Reality Winner this week at IFC Center. I'll be moderating Q+A on October 12th hosted by @reunion. You may know Reality's story from the news or from Sydney Sweeney's portrayal in Tina Satter's HBO film based on the play. Sonia goes deeper into the full story and brings us up to date on what this girl still only in her mid twenties is experiencing. We talk a lot about where journalism and film meet and the state of documentary distribution today. Have a listen and join us to watch in theaters this week. https://www.ifccenter.com/films/reality-winner-3/
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Anna Biller @msannabiller became a hero with The Love Witch a few years ago. @reunion has the pleasure of celebrating her follow up on Tuesday with a launch party for her debut novel Bluebeard's Castle. It came about as a pseudo happy accident, when pandemic stalled film development, but as Anna explains, the novel form allowed her to represent the characters' internal feelings in ways her films never allowed. The book, like Love Witch, is beyond camp. Her work is pretty peerless. We tried to find comps out there, but her mission is tall order. Lots of people do kitsch. Lots do social commentary. Lots do throwbacks. Not sure who combines these (and many more) formal influences and pursuits, in a way that entirely lands. Anna's one of my favorite thinkers period, so it's a pleasure to talk to her, and I can't wait for Tuesday. Come join us at Maxwell Social cohosted by McNally Jackson and Verso Books. https://reunionannabiller101023.splashthat.com/
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David Farrier @davidfarrier opens his new movie Mister Organ on Friday at Roxy Cinema Tribeca co-hosted by @Reunion. I was at David's Sundance premiere of Tickled, which was the first of multiple screenings where audience members who were subjects in the film caused very fun chaos. The movie and the whole experience was awesome. This movie puts his lens on regular sociopathy. He explores what a person can be like who would cause another to want to commit suicide. Spoiler alert, there's no holocaust in this. No Ted Bundy. The subject's a manipulative scammer, he broke laws, but nothing so spectacular. That's what makes this movie worth making and watching. It's unlike anything else you'll see out there. Tix at link in bio: www.instagram.com/reunion
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Dustin Waldman @dustinwaldman will show his SXSW premiered short Never Fuggedaboutit May 2 @reunion @alamonyc. The story pulls from his experience working as an editor, creating what is effectively an imagined hypothetical version of himself in 2001, working in a post house given a controversial task around September 11th. I remember how charged rhetoric and creative decisions were around this time. It reminds me of our current moment, where every decision is potentially a career ender. This one though was genuine. There was a serious tragedy, and serious sensitivity was needed. People were forced to step up to become mature decision makers immediately, and everyone deeply cared about making the constructive choices. Compare that to now, where for no reason at all, and not because anyone particularly cares, everyone's forced into extreme anxiety over cancel culture. It's like the short could take place today, with the exact same tone and narrative, but everything would just be so, so petty and farcical. www.linktr.ee/reunionthings
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Kevin Ralston @kevinralton will show his recent Slamdance premiered short Hubbards @reunion @alamonyc on May 2. Kevin has a certain brand of humor. It’s meditative and strangely whimsical rather than dark. There’s a lot of comparisons we talk about like the whole Adult Swim world, Tim & Eric, etc. but I find that a lot of those deliver this underbelly of a bleak world view, whereas Kevin’s writing and tone feels sentimental and hopeful, connected to people through the disconnects he’s investigating. Looking forward to everyone seeing some of this next week. https://reunion5223.splashthat.com/
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Nira Burstein @nira.isanalog will show the opening of her debut doc feature Charm Circle May 2 @reunion @alamonyc. We talk a lot about Judaism in the arts, NYC, family, and the difference between narrative and doc work. Lotsa parent talk. I’m interested in what audiences will make of it next week. To me, a big topic we got into was how people identify with her parents as characters and their tendencies. We see them as very, very Jewish, but many others less familiar with this culture don’t really think about it, and are they just neurotic? Anxious? Weird? Nira’s been to a bunch of Reunion nights, so I’m happy to be able to showcase her work. Excited for everyone to see. https://reunion5223.splashthat.com/
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Noam Argov @noamargov12 just premiered her short Sulam at Aspen Shorts Fest and we’ll show it May 2 at @reunion Alamo Drafthouse NYC. Noam was born in Israel, raised in Disneyworld, and now lives in NYC. There’s this wild Kyrgyzstan doc she made a couple years ago that Mailchimp put out, worth watching. Another world. Sulam features a tough mother-daughter dynamic that is autobiographical for Noam. I’d say it’s unintentionally imbued with anxiety-horror cinema. Maybe like in the way Krisha does horror. Really tough situations. Noam also had two shorts premiere at SXSW this year. Lots going on. Excited for NYC to watch this one in a theater next week. https://reunion5223.splashthat.com--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/support
Dion Costelloe @dion_costelloe is an actor featured most recently in God’s Time, which we showed in January before its IFC theatrical release. May 2 at Alamo Drafthouse, we’ll show his first short as director, Waking Up, as well as a rough cut of his latest, Haters. Dion’s a Bensonhurst guy, where my family’s from, so I’m especially invested in his voice. We talk about these characters that are going to disappear if we don’t continue to make art of their lives. I recently rewatched Once Upon a Time in America and read Tough Jews (it doesn’t let me underline), so I’ve been thinking a lot about Bensonhurst lately. We really need a modern Brooklyn movie. A real Brooklyn movie, by real Brooklyn people. Not east Brooklyn. That’s Whole Foods. South Brooklyn. Legit Brooklyn. We talk a lot about the dynamics of being a working actor, collaborating, when one gets to be creative, how much control to expect. Hope to see y’all next week at Alamo Drafthouse. https://reunion5223.splashthat.com--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/support
Frank @putitfrankly + JP @jp_canal won Slamdance 2023 Animation prize for Hot Dogs. We'll show tomorrow / Friday March 31 @reunion @arri_rental. It's a sweet, sensitive, wacky vision of life in the vein of the Up opening. An under 10 minute rollercoaster of emotions that delivers sincerity in a sea of cynicism. Why is it so hard for people to openly feel things? I'm happy these guys do. Excited for an audience to feel this together tomorrow night. https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com
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David Kolbusz @davidkolbusz is a creative ad exec turned film writer, whose short film Claudio’s Song will screen @reunion Friday March 24 @arri_rental NYC. David and I talk a lot about the arts in general, our fandom, and formation of taste. I like hearing his perspective on how advertising and creative mandates in general are shaped by social movements. Claudio’s Song and Nimic, his previous film with Yorgos Lanthimos, represent his prioritization of open minded big ideas. The short is full of them. Listen for more and join us to watch on Friday. https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com/
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Mike @mike.m.donahue made Troy as a response to theaters being closed thx to the mangy 2019 thing. @reunion shows it this Friday after a recent Sundance screening, following Tribeca premier and a highlight screening of thousands watching at Out Fest. We talk a lot about how theater and film worlds interact and where his focus is upcoming. I like this movie because, well, pretty simply, there's a ton of people talking in apartment movies made over the last few years that suck, and this one is smart and revealing. I think you'll enjoy, and I hope we see you on Friday night. https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com
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Jalena @jalena.kl and her team of Writer/director @crystalkayiza + producer @britfry just won Sundance shorts Jury price for their short film Rest Stop, and we’ll have the pleasure of screening it this Friday March 24th @reunion @arri_rental. Rest Stop is Jalena‘s first producorial dip into narrative, but is a documentary filmmaker in her own right with multiple shorts out and a feature coming soon years in the making. We talk a lot about the filmmaking journey today, as Jalena has been through programs with Jacob Burns, Sundance, Tribeca and more. She’s really an example of how the system today can succeed. Come see us this Friday in NYC! https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com
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Ben Brewer @brewerfilms has had a nice year so far. A Folded Ocean, his new short, premiered at Sundance and will show March 24th @reunion @arri_rental, and Everything Everywhere All at Once, which he did VFX for, won every award ever. He was also featured on @lecinemaclub, a beautifully curated site with one film a week curated by Marie Louise Khondji. We're both grads of the same era of Emerson College, along with what's become now a really strong group of indie filmmakers like Daniels Scheinert and Kwan and Vanishing Angle's Jim Cummings and Ben Wiessner (amongst LOTS more, but that's just who we mentioned here). Something was in the dirty Boston water around 2006-2010. Hope to see everyone Friday. https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com
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Tiger Ji is an NYC based filmmaker by way of Hong Kong. We’re going to show his latest short Death & Ramen @reunion March 20 @alamonyc @drafthouse. It stars comedian Bobby Lee and Breaking Bad’s Matt Jones. Prior to that he made Wuhan Driver, a slice of what became for some Asians in America during Covid. It reminds me a lot of the post September 11th American Islamaphobia. Death & Ramen is more personal and universal, something anyone can relate to. He tells how he put it together and what’s next. Young filmmakers figuring out how to get things made and out to the world. https://reunion3202023.splashthat.com/
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Emma Swider @ispysvvi is a filmmaker and editor I met through Beth B (recently on the show and retrospective'd at Metrograph) at our Lydia Lunch screening a few years ago. She's sent me a few of her shorts, including the much more robust The Marinn Company, but it was really this short montage she made that got me. We're going to screen All for You on March 20th at Alamo Drafthouse Lower Manhattan @Reunion. We talk about the kind of tactics she uses to get these really important points across, and how without them, men in particular can often speak of the concepts without really understanding the impact of their words. I'm excited for the reaction from the audience next week. This is one of those times where it's fun to film the audience. https://reunion3202023.splashthat.com
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Joe Meyerson @josephsamuelmeyerson ‘s first short film Out Patient will show @reunion @alamonyc @drafthouse Lower Manhattan on March 20. We talk about what it takes to put together a movie like this in the burgeoning stages of a career, particularly how to cast and deal with actors. We also talk a lot about what it’s like to be a straight white cis guy making movies today at all, but particularly about other white guys. https://reunion3242023.splashthat.com
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Leah Shore @leahsh0re is a filmmaker and multimedia artist known for live action and animation work. We're going to show one of their animated films and another live action x animation short on March 20th at Alamo Drafthouse Lower Manhattan @reunion. Leah recently made a really fun short in advance of the Nitehawk Shorts Fest. Come see us next week! https://reunion3202023.splashthat.com
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Rachid Hami just showed his second feature POUR LA FRANCE (For My Country) at Film at Lincoln Center's Rendezvous with French Cinema. He explains in this episode why the title changes from 'For France' to 'For My Country' in the US. Toward the end is the most striking point to me about assimilation vs. integration. We speak of our upbringings, his being French by way of Algeria (as portrayed in the film) and mine being a New York Jew. The story told is about his real life family, done as a character study less than an indictment of the system. We talk a lot about that point. It's a movie, about people, with style...not an article or textbook in visual form. There's a significant divide between France and US in how we treat topics like this in the arts. I hope we take notes. Sufganiyot thanks to Orwashers. https://www.filmlinc.org/films/for-my-country/
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Beth B is an NYC arts legend returning Friday for a retrospective at Metrograph. I was at her previous retrospective at MoMa, and we showed her Lydia Lunch documentary at my place last year. That hang was amazing, the crowd kept Beth and Lydia talking for longer than the film runtime and nobody left. She's got incredible stories from my favorite era of NYC arts and a beautiful personal arc to show for it. It's nice to be able to receive her perspective on something that a lot of other people can't figure out their way to reconcile or get past or get over or move on from. Downtown NYC arts scenes of today should take notes! Special shouts to Kino Lorber. See her this weekend at Metrograph: https://metrograph.com/category/bethb/
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Eugene Kotlyarenko, Lea Rose Sebastianis, Nate Wilson, Morgan Krantz collaborated to create The Straightball, which we’ll show on Thursday February 16 @reunion. This is like a film school episode in a way, and also kinda heartwarming friendship tale. Eugene had a retrospective in Toronto, and Nate and Lea tell us of the vibrant film community who came out. That turned into hangs, and eventually collaboration. It’s a cool walk through of how things can come together. Take notes, do it yourself!! @madabouteug @brainbarf_for_jamstown @morgankrantz @topsecretbadboy https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Lucy McKendrick @lucy_elizabeth_mckendrick premieres her short film Fuck Me Richard @sxsw in March and will show some of her work @reunion this week on February 16th At Wonderland Dreams. We actually had a long tea hang the other day which we aimed to post but because of the subject matter of Lucy’s film, we both got super raw and went in depth on a lot of topics that we decided to let disappear into the ether. We talked about trolls. About our shared anxiety. About covid zoom acting classes. Fuck Me Richard really engages hard with a lot of this. I think this chat that I’m posting now synthesizes our longer rambly emotional chat a lot better. Hope you enjoy and hope to see y’all Thursday. https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Samara, Winnie and Chase just premiered their film Residency at Rotterdam Film Fest. We’ll show 10-15 min preview on Thursday February 16th @reunion at Wonderland Dreams as part of a shorts block. Samara @miss3liss is founder of art collective, gallery and I don’t know entirely how to describe space @thelockerroomnyc. She paired up with Winnie @w1nn1th (previously of Woodlands Dark and Days Bewitched— the 🐐@KierlaJanisse) to make a film about her month long artist Residency. Chase @leather_locklear is featured in that as part of her band @2cb_band and @Cumgirl8. I appreciate this work in that they appreciated a doc simply covering and sharing what the artist residency is ‘objectively’ would be less valuable to the audience, and instead chose to extend their artistic practice to turn this movie into a genre bender, standing alone far beyond a document of the residency as a subject. It becomes a horror show, hinged on the anxieties of creative ideas and ambition in a shared space. The Locker Room becomes a micro for New York city’s macro (Christ did I really just write that sentence, who am I? Have I jumped the shark?). This is a long late night post-Rihanna bowl recording featuring very caffeinated antioxidinated Japanese tea. See y’all Thursday. https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Hannah Ha Ha is out now in NY and LA. The co-directors Jordan and Josh and star Hannah join me @banjohannah @jordan_tetewsky. We hosted the first in person screening last year after they won Slamdance, and then hosted opening night party on Friday, I did Q+A Saturday. Next, we’ll actually be showing the short film that preceded this, Hannah in April, on Thursday Feb 16 at Wonderland Dreams, with a live musical performance from Hannah. We’ve done a bunch of these talks about this movie already, this is kinda a greatest hits of topics. Also the first time we got to include Josh though! Hope to see everyone on Thursday! https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Anya Raza & Yumna Rizvi @anyarazaofficial @yumrizvi will show their film Still Here on Thursday February 16 @reunion pop up at Wonderland Dreams. Anya is a documentarian and Yumna works at CVT Center for Victims of Torture in DC. They partnered on the project. Here we talk about the relationship between causes and art, how money factors in, how the west creates bias. I talk about Beyonce and Diplo for a while and somehow relate it to torture, yeah. Maybe. You can judge for yourself. This episode is important because we're going to show the film Thursday and not provide as much context as we'd like, just a gateway of sorts. Leaving this here for those who attend to listen to after also to deepen their understanding of the topic and know where to take action. Hope to see you Thursday! https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Blake James Reid + Max Frumkin @blakejamesreid @moque.furs just made their first short Yamashiro LIVE! and we're going to screen it on February 16th @reunion @wonderlanddreamland. We talk about their creative collaboration, their influences, and in many ways the nature of communication through art. I'm excited for these guys to watch Chainsaw and Naked properly. I think it'll blow their minds. See y'all Thursday. https://reunion2162023.splashthat.com
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Brontez Purnell @brontezpurnell joins me for an episode after having played his short film 100 Boyfriends Mixtape #3 @reunion a few weeks ago. It was an absolute smash. I was nervous about how the audience would take it, as it includes imagery that honestly most will never see or even conceptualize of. He somehow packages that sensitively and thoughtfully in a way that warmly opens the audience up to ideas beyond their scope. He gained massive acclaim for just that with his book 100 Boyfriends in 2021. Brontez is like a gateway drug to empathy, bravely sharing his experience in a way that warmly invites someone with a wildly different experience to reflect and learn. I think a lot of writing that tackles what could be considered extreme topics in sex and drugs and alienation come across as challenging and abrasive, to the point that it scares people off from engaging, but Brontez strikes a beautiful balance of challenging but inviting. Next, look for his band Gravy Train to play their first shows in 15 years!
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Jeff Rutherford @jeffsrutherford just premiered his feature debut A Perfect Day for Caribou starring Charlie Plummer at Locarno and Slamdance. We had his team Kyra Bailey and Joseph Longo on yesterday. We’re showing films they’ve all worked on this Wednesday February 8th at Gospel NYC with @reunion. Jeff talks about his festival experience, getting a movie out into the world right now with distribution options, key collaborators, and next steps for movies in general. Join us Wednesday if you’re in NYC! https://reunion2823.splashthat.com
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Joseph Longo & Kyra Bailey @josephsrlongofilm @kyra.bailey will show some films @reunion on Wednesday February 8th and just premiered their feature A Perfect Day for Caribou at Locarno and Slamdance. We talk in detail about what it takes to put a low budget movie together and how to bring it to the world. More from writer director Jeff Rutherford @jeffsrutherford on next episode too. Come see their work on Wednesday: https://reunion2823.splashthat.com
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Brenna @brennapower just premiered her first short film Cold & Sara at Slamdance Film Fest and we show it @reunion on Wednesday February 8th with a full program of shorts at Gospel NYC. We talk about what it's like to be a filmmaker today, pushing shorts, developing features. I forgot to ask her about Babylon I just realized, which she was in. Wow. How tf did I forget to ask about Babylon. Wow. Anyway, we talk about how Film Freeway is a scam a lot. See y'all Wednesday. https://reunion2823.splashthat.com
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Sofia @sofiacamargo__ is a filmmaker whose short Al Lado Del Rio we’ll show on Wednesday February 8th at Gospel in NYC @reunion. We talk about what NYU grad school is like, and balancing one’s own artistic sensibility with the learned techniques of an intensive program and community like that. Wednesday will share a lineup with some more classmates and collaborators like producer Joseph Longo. Hope to see you there! https://reunion2823.splashthat.com--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/support
Eran Kolirin is a filmmaker with a current retrospective at NYC's Quad Cinema, in celebration of his new film Let It Be Morning, which premiered at Cannes in Un Certain Regard. You'd know him most from the wildly successful The Band's Visit, which was adapted into a huge musical. I like the movie more, which I had the pleasure of watching on 35mm this week before moderating opening night's Q&A last night. Eran and I talk about identity most. What's it mean to be a Jew? Israeli? Middle Easterner? What's a wall? How's it impact us physically and psychologically? Shot before pandemic, the words 'lockdown' and 'protest' figure importantly and presciently here. I'm happy to watch the film for the first time now, given the newfound context. It's even more impactful. Go see it @quadcinema via @cohenmediagroup https://quadcinema.com/film/let-it-be-morning/ https://cohenmedia.net/product/let-it-be-morning
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Jay Giampietro @jaygiampietro has made a ton of short films that have played tons of festivals most importantly NYFF. He represents a vibe and milieu of NYC arts culture that's maintained its crisp purity for the last decade plus. The Safdies transfer that NYC anxiety into crime, but Jay likes to examine closely the people we walk by every day and the conversations we exist amongst. Monday February 6 we show his latest work Hernia amongst an evening curated by previous episode's Miles Emanuel. Hope to see everyone there. https://reunion262023.splashthat.com
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Miles Emanuel @gertrudkanning is back and we have a screening together Monday February 6th at Gospel NYC. https://reunion262023.splashthat.com Another surprise lineup that we talk about in detail here, so listen now for a preview or wait until later. Hope to see y'all on Monday!!
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Kenny Schachter @kennyschachter is an art world hybrid--artist, critic, journalist, curator, dealer, NFT expert... We focus specifically on his video work for much of this conversation, as we'll showcase a few of the hundreds he's made over the years this Friday January 13th @reunion in NYC, actually showing Kenny's work for the first time ever in a theater. As I type this the morning after recording, I think about the idea of 'outsider' in the art world, which Kenny describes himself as. I'm not so sure. I want to ask him some follow ups on that. We discussed different pathways to making art, and how being informed by history of a medium can be a rich path to practicing, but not necessary, and all paths could create beauty. That combined with how Kenny can speak fluently in that history, and literally just turned in his manuscript for his forthcoming NFTism. He's an authority. Doesn't matter if he didn't start as such. So if that's the case, why is Kenny an outsider? I'm not so sure. I look forward to seeing him on Friday and asking him more about this. In the meantime, hope you enjoy, and you can get tickets to Friday's screening here: https://www.midnighttheatre.com/events/reunion-film-jan13-23
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Daniel Antebi @dantebi_ just gave a talk about how to make your first feature film before turning 25. He did. @reunion is going to show the opening of God's Time Friday January 13th at Midnight Theatre. I love the opening most actually, so I'm really winning here. I love the film overall, but I really feel that the opening packs in soooo much of what Daniel is good at--capturing kinetic energy and transferring it to an audience. Don't skip on the rest of the movie, because there he provides space for his trio of lead actors to really love each other and connect with the audience. The Tribeca [cough Film cough] Festival premiere at the Village East Angelika Synagogue theater was electric. Daniel's quite beloved by his NYC people. Screenings like that show us the potential and importance of movies and the people who make them. Daniel's got a lot in the works, as you can hear from our talk. Hope you enjoy. Get tix for Friday here: https://www.midnighttheatre.com/events/reunion-film-jan13-23
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Lucia Santina Ribisi @peace_on_earth.mp4 is a filmmaker and activist who made the short film Climate Chaos, Baby which we're going to show @reunion Friday January 13th at Midnight Theatre with live narration and score. She explores whether she feels having children is ok when our environment is collapsing, and what the real problem is. Recent NYC resident via LA, Lucia's also working on a 'real-time club theater' at Zero Space called Diskokina on January 28th. It sounds wild. She talks about going from living in a tree to making films as the most impact. Get tix to see the film Friday January 13th in NYC: https://www.midnighttheatre.com/events/reunion-film-jan13-23 --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/teawithsg/support
Libe @libebarer and Ruby @ruby.mccollister just made a short film called With the Fishes, that I'll screen on Friday Jan 6 with the secret 16mm print referenced in yesterday's episode with Miles Emanuel. We talk about Streisand and Minelli, Funny Girl, Los Angeles, Babylon. Talked a lot about the importance of programming and bringing people to the movies. The cruelty of data. If you're in NYC come watch the film on Friday: https://www.midnighttheatre.com/events/reunion-film-jan6
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Miles Emanuel and I host a @reunion 16mm film screening on Friday January 6th 2023 at Midnight Theatre NYC (link below). The film is a secret publicly, but listen here if you want the reveal (spoiler alert). Miles is a born and raised New Yorker, who just watched his 10,000th movie at the age of 23. You may have seen him recently in Funny Pages (written+directed by Owen Kline) and he is currently raising post funding for his feature debut Zucchini. We talk about the state of movies today, how important being informed by the past is, and what we want to see from the next chapter. TIX: https://www.midnighttheatre.com/events/reunion-film-jan6 & Zucchini GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/3xgud-zucchini
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Here’s Antoneta’s interview without the intro (previous episode). Here’s our post-screening Q+A with @antonetaalamatkusijanovic filmmaker of Murina. Antoneta won Camera D’Or at last year’s Cannes Film Festival, first time filmmaker award. Love this movie. Kino Lorber release it this summer in US. Read more on her here: https://variety.com/2022/film/global/alamat-kusijanovic-murina-cannes-interview-1235204121/
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First episode in a while. A little update. Talk about movies and exhibition and theatrical experience. Then this episode turns into a recording of my post-screening Q+A with @antonetaalamatkusijanovic filmmaker of Murina. Antoneta won Camera D’Or at last year’s Cannes Film Festival, first time filmmaker award. Love this movie. Kino Lorber release it this summer in US. Read more on her here: https://variety.com/2022/film/global/alamat-kusijanovic-murina-cannes-interview-1235204121/
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Orson @orsonowitz and I went to Emerson College together. We both basically hated it, feeling like it was a buncha industry talk and comedy bs and no real art thinking. Attribute all that to me no him just in case. He's now made 3 films in about 3 years. And he's just making stuff. Whatever elements come together, with whatever resources...attach a point of view...and make a movie. He talks about actors being his closest collaborators on set, and I reference how he's gotten the best performances out of some of my fav actors. He also DP's his own films, while shooting for hire elsewhere. Queen of Hollywood Boulevard is on Amazon Prime, Trespassers is on IFC, and his new one The Five Rules of Success is playing festivals like @fantasiafestival currently. If you're in LA, he'll be doing drive-ins. http://www.orson-oblowitz.com
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Ben @benhozie just premiered @fantasiafestival his new film PVT Chat starring Uncut Gems' @juliafox and @petervackofficial. People who asked what's Julia gonna be in next...this is it. It's a very NYC movie. Internet folk in NYC movie. Bc that's what we are. Made by a bunch of NYC people, namely Ben, who fronts one of the last fresh and relevant actual NYC based indie rock bands. They're like The Strokes, but Ben sings about today's existence on the internet. I told him I felt like his songs are like essays that could go on Medium, but since he's more tasteful than those Medium ranters, he makes music that drives the feelings and points so much deeper. Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTtUjKAGHqU
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Justine's Sibyl releases Friday Sept 11 via FIlm at Lincoln Center, my fav. I watched the film last year at NYFF and loved it. I talk to Justine about contemporary films about adults living adult lives, dealing with adult thoughts. We get them from France, but rarely United States. She has such a wonderful cast because she creates such major roles. Every single role in the film is nuanced, a look into a three dimensional person. There are no thin secondary characters, she does each one relatable justice, and simply spends more time with some than others. Sibyl is alive and dynamic, a real person I could know. The second collaboration with Virgenie Efira, it's the kind of role American actresses just don't get to perform. Efira takes advantage. Watch Friday @filmlinc https://www.filmlinc.org/films/sibyl/
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Eve @evebarlow has a conflict. A few actually. Most people know her as a music journalist writing for @guardian @GQ @latimes @nymag @pitchfork @billboard @tabletmag @nmemagazine @playboy. Lately, she's been a really loud Jew. Will her music people remain interested when Judaism is the topic? Will the massive influx of new followers via Judaism read her music writing? Can she be a music journalist who is also an activist around Judaism? What about Zionism? What about the conversation around Israel as a state? Antisemitism? Anti-Judaism? Anti-Israel? Anti-Zionism? Where does racism come into play? What about intersectionality? Right and left? Right and wrong? Shortly after George Floyd was killed, I spoke out that this was not a moment for Jews to make any noise, that this was a moment specifically about oppression against people with black skin. Eve and others like her friend @benmfreeman made me come to the opinion that that rhetoric was repeated often enough and spun enough to create a real moment of Antisemitism. We get into it.
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Ryan @aryankrugerthing is filmmaker behind @friedbarrymovie playing now @fantasiafestival. It's a gonzo trip movie where he pulls out all the tricks he never got to use on his many music videos or commercials. It's heroin gonzo meets alien gonzo. I don't know if it really matters if we're watching Barry under the influence of heroin or an alien possession, but just everything happens. What I loved most about talking to Ryan is hearing how much he loves his movie. He made exactly the film he wanted to make, and is fully satisfied with it. It's such a hard place to get to, where either technical or creative or circumstantial aspects often get in the way of filmmakers being content with even well-received work. Watch Fried Barry now at www.fantasiafestival.com
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Julia @reel.jss stars in Come True, premiering TONIGHT @fantasiafestival. It's Anthony Scott Burns' soph film, and I learned from Julia they had eight people on set. Very cool. It makes sense. Burns requires serious emotional openness and evolution from Julia, where her internal shifts in her subconscious and unconscious fully drive the narrative. It's Julia's show. Her face is the star of the movie. And she's got one of those faces. It's a classic you don't forget. Added iconic short blonde hair. Julia's young but already a serious veteran a decade into her career. Loved talking craft with her and getting inside what she brought us in Come True. Check it out, like right now, at www.fantasiafestival.com
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Chino premieres Undergods, his feature debut, this weekend @fantasticfestival. It's pitch black in cool blue, a dystopian future, a crumbled Europe, a sinkhole of a narrative carved into chapters channeling this despair into stories of broken intimacy. Broken organization, broken communication, broken masculinity. Everything broken and fragmented. As we discuss though, this isn't to leave you hopeless. It's to open your eyes and demand something else when you exit that theater (or turn off your laptop screen). I particularly enjoyed the threads we took on generational decay as well as the phenomenon of creatives finding a sweet spot of inspo with work made in the six surrounding years of their birth. Trailer here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2NQjAHZyc0 and watch the full film at www.fantasiafestival.com
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Isabel @isabelpeppard77 is co-director of Morgana @morganadocumentary, which is showing @fantasiafestival right now, after its premiere at Melbourne Film Festival. Her co-director Josie Hess @yosiesaurus couldn't join us just bc lotsa time zones. Morgana is an emotional story of a woman making a courageous shift in her circumstances and taking control of her life and narrative. At the end of her rope, lost in her standard housewife/mother life, Morgana decided to break her 12 year celibacy and hire a prostitute, then kill herself. That experience instead inspired her to memorialize the experience in a pornographic film. Many films later, she is considered the pornographer's pornographer and won many awards. I'll leave the rest of the movie. There's a lot. Isabel and I specifically talk a lot of the analogue to intimacy and touch in a pandemic time. Watch it now www.fantasiafestival.com www.josieiscool.com www.isabelpeppard.com www.permission4pleasure.com www.morganadocumentary.com
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I'll write a better description later but I wanted to upload this immediately because @theblockislandsound premieres like right now @fantasiafestival. I have a bunch of episodes in a row focused on films there. Will be rolling them out through the weekend and next week. Funny I didn't even know they went to Emerson College with me. Fun episode. Great film, GO WATCH IT! www.fantasiafestival.com
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George @georgeguttridgesmith of @obubuteafarms (Wazuka, Japan) is officially my longest episode! And we could have kept going easily. If you go back to my episode with Elyse Petersen of Tealet, you heard us talking about Obubu's internship program. Elyse started that, and George was a participant in 2018, never left Wazuka. Well, he left and came back, but you know what I mean. Obubu is a leader in the field. Beyond internships, there's a wonderful tour business, videos, classes, trips, and great great tea. We talked lots of ideas about the future of tea. Get into the last half of it for me really riffing on where I want things to go. linktr.ee/obubuteafarms
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Kathryn @klfbiz3, founder of @biz3publicity is IMHO one of the most important people in the music industry. I didn't say 'women.' She's touched more angles than most I know. We started by talking about her ex-husband's new record (www.agrapedope.com), formerly of peak cool indie rock band Tortoise. We barely talked about her cofounding OWSLA with Skrillex and Tim Smith. We talked some about her generic publicity and management empire. We touched on hip hop artists she works with like Killer Mike, J. Cole. Talked a little about her client Colin Kaepernick. Talked a lot about her more recent addition/transition to life coaching. She's great.
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Jonah @bitterleafteas originates in Canada, but married into tea life. He and his wife moved to Kunming, in China's Yunnan province (arguably the birthplace of tea, home of Pu Erh), where she was raised. They've built a great brand exporting really high quality Chinese tea, teaware and education. Their site, tea club, and newsletter are a really beautiful starting or immersion point for any tea novice or lover. It's very cool getting Jonah's perspective, because we're raised in similar places, at similar times, and he's committed to this entirely different life. Watching the generations of Chinese tea farmers develop and integrating into them is a journey I am happy to hear about firsthand. www.bitterleafteas.com
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Andreea @amagdalina started @shesaidso pre-#MeToo. It's been a cool transition watching her work from before it was, woah, as weird as this is to type, I don't think it can be disputed, trendy. It was an afterthought. I didn't even take it too seriously tbh. We co-hosted events, but I wasn't too involved. I felt the work really important, but I had no idea what to do about it, and felt like nobody really cared. Now everyone cares soooo much. And while the kind of work SheSaidSo does is not top priority at all the big companies, we're faced with new challenges. This felt like a nice time for a check in. Post-#MeToo peak craziness, now that we've settled into pandemic life, and right in between the George Floyd protests and November's election. https://www.shesaid.so
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Season 2 premiere. Back in NYC. Release day today for really my first song. I've made some other music, but it was more just fun stuff while DJing. This is important. Third Son @thirdsonmusic my producer and I talk about it and lotsa stuff. Check www.bandcamp.com/seanglass for the song download and merch. Streaming everywhere. More merch @smalldifference www.smalldifference.co www.linktr.ee/sdotglass
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I left Mexico two days ago. I recorded this while watching my final sunset with the person I spoke to most during my five months of isolation in Careyes. Bianca and I dated a while ago but reconnected when I was sick earlier this year, because she was always good to me when I was sick. In general, I get really annoyed talking to a lot of people for this time in my life, because there's all of this attachment put on me that I'm no longer ok with. I left what I saw as my world or the world a few years ago, and have insulated myself to do the work I felt I needed to do, and only let in certain people who fit into that energy. My birthday is Saturday (August 1st, obviously you already know this), and I'm not only physically returned to the world (back in NYC), but I'll be releasing everything I've been working on now, marking my return in that sense. What I realized was that I didn't want to live any longer without building my own universe. I didn't want to have conversations with people dictated by the rules and conventions set by others. As goes with artistic form, one cannot just tell another how one wants things to be, one must build it and transfer the understanding in a more powerful and nuanced way. So I removed myself until I could do that, and now I can. The music, the clothes, the films, the show, everything is coming out now. And I can talk to people again, because I'm building this world around me and through me that works on terms I'm ok with. Bianca helped a lot with that in so many ways. So talking the last few months through with her felt like the perfect way to end this. Next will be Season Two: NYC!!!
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Second to last episode of season one. Day before I leave Careyes, Mexico, where I spent five months in actual isolation for quar. It was wild. Some of my feelings toward the end, as I prepare to reenter civilization. Mark Rothko The Artist Reality Head to @teawithsg Instagram for videos, now uploading daily since I'm in NYC with strong WiFi finally.
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Stephanie @stephanielacava and I share so many artistic references and influences, we can talk forever. This one is a two parter, as her computer died mid recording and we were chatting anyway so just continued it a few days later until her son needed her. Stephanie's new book The Superrationals is a tight and dense 189 pages. The first thing I said to her after reading a few pages was the you have to live a lot to write that direct. That is, there's lives between the words. We're both major students of Alain Robbe-Grillet, and she even references he and Marguerite Duras in the book. It's a very cool formal exercise read, as it takes a little while to learn how to read her. Her voice is different than many of her peers, I think about Chris Kraus (founder of her publisher Semiotext(e), same as Natasha Stagg, previously on show) and Eileen Miles in through lines other writers merely reference academically. The Robbe-Grillet and Duras ideas surrounding New Roman and Objective Description are truly visible here in a form that exhibits the 60 years past. I read Robbe-Grillet's The Voyeur right before Superrationals, so there are moments I got really excited when I got confused if a word is intended as double entendre, or if a passage of time had occurred or not. It's cool to drift while reading, not elsewhere, but within the narrative. I found myself dabbling back and forth between understandings as I read, but not doubling back to check, just continuing in the flow. Oh she also has her on publishing arm @Small_Press! She's the coolest.
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Hazkel aka @homosinner makes some of my favorite looks. Between his makeup and styling, he has the ability to really build characters in singular images. He's built up a motif around his Homosinner persona, and regularly collaborates with my favorite, and IMHO most influential image makers out there right now, such as @zah and @gypsysport. Diet Prada could open up a new account just for this NYC set and all the brands who copy them. Hazkel's originally from Costa Rica, but has been in NYC for a long time. We're a generation apart, but a lot of our worlds cross over in the sense that while embodying entirely different scenes, I feel we've looked for the same things in them. There's a few people in my life who I really trust as a barometer for how creative culture is going, so talking to him is like food for me; you can sense my enthusiasm.
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Pete Lawrie-Winfield @petelawriewinfield is has gone through the whole music machine and spun it into new ways of living and creating. His band Until the Ribbon Breaks did all the things, signed with the biggest label in the world, toured with Lorde at her peak, had features from all the cool kids. And he tells of it being pretty incredible, but a lot more, and a lot less. He's recently launched a new label with Vero @verotruesocial, as Vero Music, with their first release Thunder Jackson. It's funny to have this episode air at the end of what I'm calling 'Season One,' because the show started with questions about what the new models are going to be. This is one. It incorporates many of the principles I wrote about: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/make-your-imagination-real-now-is-the-time/ We'll do follow up episodes with more pieces of the puzzle on this project. The last hour of the episode is all Vero talk, we go super granular into production, label internal workings, and distribution. 60 episodes!!!
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Merck @merck_mercuriadis is founder of @hipgnosissongs, a three year old music IP investment company, amongst other things like artist management stemming from Merck's prior history as CEO of Sanctuary for 20 years, personal manager of Nile Rodgers, Morrissey and many others. Merck uses the phrase 'song management' to describe what others would simply call a publishing company. It speaks to the active nature of his approach compared to the traditionally passive way the majors let songs reap whatever they reap. We get granular on a lot of how this works, and also talk a lot about artist careers we're both familiar with, and where we want to see that go. Hipgnosis has spent $1bb on songs so far, Merck wants to double that. It's an example of 'disruption' that, whether it proves sustainable or not, is certainly a productive kind of shake up to a side of the industry that has very, very rarely adjusted it's inarguably unfair economics. This pushes the issue and capitalizes the other side of the argument, the songwriters. https://www.hipgnosissongs.com/about
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Leigh @leighstein is really smart. She nailed the whole entrepreneur - influencer mythology, and according to Leigh, she had no personal experience nor access to any of the models. I have, and this is a funny conversation, where I ended up talking way more than I expected, but I needed to tell her how on point her book is. It's called 'dark satire,' but I would argue that label is misleading, because these characters are REAL! I love the book, and I love her other writing. Check out her recent Medium piece as a primer for the new book. Also her most recent IG post is genius. Great listen for any type of creator thinking about the distribution and business model of their work. www.leighstein.com
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Carolina @carolevymx runs @soytemx, as far as I know, the highest quality tea company in Mexico, my adopted home. She partners with @teadrunk, previously featured with guest Shunan Teng. I had one of her roasted oolongs after this episode, and it warmed me in really lovely ways. Aftertaste coated back of throat, and it really filled my chest, the mark of a good oolong. Caro is very knowledgeable about tea. She tells of her education on this episode, it's a really good story for anyone interested in learning. She understands clearly what was important and what was a waste of time. I love the convergence of indigenous Mexican and South American culture with Eastern Chinese, Taiwanese and Japanese ideas and techniques. Enjoy!
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Daniel @danielaskill is editing his first narrative feature! I learned this on the episode, so excited for him. He's a director I've known for a while, you've seen lots of his work. Most notably the Sia 'Chandelier' video. I'm not gonna link it who cares, you know it, you can find it. Anyone incapable of that isn't listening to this podcast, let's be real. Westworld ripped off his short film Universal Machine last year. His cinema is obsessed with bodies. You can trace his style from the beginning w this similar view of the lines on bodies and the lines bodies make. Take the crease of his own back in his debut short film from 2003, or the line that three surfboards create riding one wave in his latest work, a collaboration with Cinematographer Natasha Braier and surfer Steph Gilmore, amongst many more. Notable for me because it was Braier's return to shooting bodies in water after her Lynne Ramsey short film Swimmer, a classic. Go watch all this stuff. After you listen. Enjoy. Sorry for technical difficulties. You'll be ok. www.danielaskill.com
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Patrice @patrice_baumel is an electronic music producer from Germany currently based out of Amsterdam. We connected thanks to Scuba and had here what could have been a much longer conversation. Love talking about how electronic and dance music has evolved over the last few decades, getting lots of detailed insight into scenes I was only on the periphery of. We talk about finding balance in producing for audiences and what comes fully natural in a vacuum. Lots of ideas and philosophy talk. Enjoy.
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Elyse @tealettea is different from the other tea world guests I've had so far. She's focused on wholesale, starting by opening up relationships with farms in the east, all the way to her network of worldwide retailers. She uses the term 'cultural bestowment' to replace a lot of buzz words we hear, to describe a mission of bringing quality tea to the world, with consciousness around all that occurs from field to cup. She's invested in education and connection around the tea world, from novices looking for their first exposure, to experts interested in learning secrets of single origin sources. Here are some links:
www.tealet.com
https://teaanditspeople.com/
https://teaanditspeople.com/blogs/virtual-tea-party - Posted past live education sessions
elyse@tealet.com
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Wrekmeister Harmonies @wrekmeisterharmonies JR Robinson and Ester Shaw released my album of the year in February. It's funny that during the episode I thought it was released last year, but time is a flat circle. It's a huge literary transcendental work. Really has a beginning middle and end, it's incredibly emotional. We talk about the ideas at work, and how many with minimal exposure to these kinds of sounds can mistake it for being 'dark.' This is a good episode if you want some 101 exposure to why people get inspired by music like this, why we consider it shining the brightest light. Their collaboration in life and work is beautifully inspiring as well, and I appreciate so much how open and illuminating they are about it. Loved talking to them. www.wrekmeisterharmonies.net
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Zuri @zuriwithafringeontop is spokesperson for @blackatdalton, an account shining light on racism at the school we both graduated from. It's part of a lot of emerging accounts, starting with @blackatbrearley. I support what they are doing and hope to bridge gaps in conversation given my position, which I go into in the episode. More info from Zuri:
Zuri Washington is a Dalton School Alumni (Class of ‘09) who normally graces stages across the country as an actress and singer, but in these COVID-times, she finds herself called to activism’s front door as both a playwright and spokesperson for the “Black at Dalton“ movement.
Black at Dalton was inspired the by the national reaction to the murder of George Floyd and subsequent reckoning of how America has handled racism in it’s near and distant past. The “Black At” movement aims to highlight the traumas of the black populations of our schools and come to the institutions in question with demands and plans of action that seek to crack foundation of these overwhelmingly white institutions and create spaces that allow for current black students to feel cared for and looked after as more than just another notch on a diversity checklist” belt. Black at Dalton aims to seek out and destroy pervasive anti-black mentalities that have harmed Dalton’s student body, past and present. We “Go Forth Unafraid” and seek to lend our voice to the community at large as best we can. This is just the beginning.
NBC News interview: https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/black-private-school-students-share-racism-experiences-86991429712
Taylor Lorenz piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/style/blm-accounts-social-media-high-school.amp.html
Syracuse student Editor piece: https://medium.com/@jaycoaxum/unheard-and-unseen-black-students-and-faculty-take-to-instagram-to-voice-experiences-at-pwis-4b97fb3cf31d
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Antoine @antoinewagnerstudio and I met ten years ago when he was filming his documentary on Phoenix during the album and tour cycle of Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix. That was quite the time. One of the best albums of all time period. We watched them go from a respected act with a core fanbase playing venues like Music Hall of Williamsburg (600 capacity), to Madison Square Garden (20,000 cap), that legendary set with Daft Punk, to headlining Coachella (remember when R. Kelly came out to perform the mashup?). This was all in one album cycle. What a special time. All captured in Antoine's film. We talked mostly about his great great grandfather Richard Wagner though, because I've become a big opera head, specifically Wagnerian. There's an awesome documentary Antoine did where he returned to the Swiss locations Wagner wrote Das Rheingold and many more masterpieces. Listening to the Valkyries in the Alps where they supposedly flew, conjuring the transcendental feelings of Richard Wagner, it's beautiful. Antoine is currently in Geneva for a new exhibition. We talk about it all, and here are links you can find everything: The artist Antoine Wagner discusses his multidisciplinary practice, quarantine, collaborative work, the impossible forest, Opera in 2020, the Phoenix Doc FROM A MESS TO THE MASSES and his first Virtual Reality work UMSTELLUNG opening at Galerie Untitled 1983 in Geneva this month. @antoinewagnerstudio www.antoinewagner.comwww.impossibleforest.com @untitled1983
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Cherie @cheriehu42 @water_and_music is a music journalist focused on the industry side. Her work helps a huge problem with the music industry, the exchange of information and learning. It's been historically difficult for anyone, but particularly the non-white and connected individuals, to learn how the music industry works. Writers like Cherie make this available to everyone. When I was a kid, it was Hits Magazine and Hitmakers, but only the already in the industry read it. Bob Lefsetz branched out with his email newsletter. UK started to fix things with Music Week, which inspired Billboard to pivot to Billboard Biz, and brought us Tim Ingham's Music Business Worldwide, which lead to Rolling Stone including this type of journalism. We have more like Mark Mulligan. It's getting a lot better. Cherie is the only non-white male I can think of doing writing at this level. Check out her Patreon, I highly recommend subscribing if you're an artist or industry member. https://www.cheriehu.com https://www.patreon.com/m/waterandmusic
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Luke @mrlukejenner of The Rapture and I recorded this day of his new release on his brand new label @manonorecords. It's really good. Long journey emotional spectrum full of ideas. We'd connected here and there over the years DJing or DFA adjacent hangs but never really talked proper. This was very cool to just go all in on ideas and feelings. We examine ourselves and the life of making stuff in similar ways and end up agreeing on a bunch of the explorations. We also connect on the need for full commitment to abstract thinking, that is to say your own thinking, not that of the playbook that's out there. I suspect that's why my music (forthcoming) shares similar qualities to his in the sorta act breaks, where the track goes in big new directions. I've always felt those free journeys are what elevates Rapture music. He's got 4 ongoing projects releasing new music, kinda like Kanye's June 2018. I'm excited to hear all of it. Support from Genusee eyewear. www.genusee.com code TEAWITHSG for discount.
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Lauren @lapresmidi is New York based Editor of the Business of Fashion @bof, IMHO the most important fashion industry publication. I've been reading/following Lauren for a while. She was really influential and informative when I put my brand together. The sharing of information is so important. Fashion and music have forever been industries where skills, language, codes, processes, the whole system, gets hidden behind walls, only shared with those that people in special positions deem special. Lauren's work demystifies that and shares it with all. So without going to Central Saint Martins, you can learn the trade. I love the merging of art and craft in her writing, such that we can really understand the full spectrum of what goes into the clothes we love. I always like to speak about 'fashion' as clothes. When reading Vogue, it's fashion. On BoF, it's clothes. Fashion is a part of clothes, sure. But the clothes are the focus. What comes of them, what they do, is studied, but always in respect to the backtracking that someone made them. I love that. Sponsored by @genusee_official get 20% off with code TEAWITHSG www.genusee.com
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Mac Rebennack invented the Dr. John persona after a famous New Orleans character we'd now probably call an herbalist or homeopath, but they'd call a doctor. He was a long time New Orleans blues and rock musician who came up with the idea to invoke this persona and make an album of gris-gris (voodoo/hoodoo) music. The persona stuck, only parts of the gris-gris stuck, and the music evolved and transcended repeatedly until his death last year. I read this chapter because it evokes some learning I apply to today's confusion. Spirituality and practicality, civic responsibility, community...concepts we may lose perspective on. New Orleans has some knowledge for us.
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Chloe @c.a.r.music is one of my favs. She's been in every dj set I've played for a while. She finds this beautiful balance btw a harder edge than house music but not past the techno line where it's only enjoyable in certain circumstances. It's rock music really. That happens to tap into dance music. She's a welcome salve on dance music vox that all sound the same. I hate dance music vox. I'd encourage you to start with her new LP. Then the remixes (new ones Friday). Then go back to Battant and all the way through her catalog. Also check her feature on the new Third Son album "20 Days". https://c-a-r.bandcamp.com/
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Nischal @nepalteallc and I met at Little Tokyo's LA Tea Festival 5 years ago I'd guess. https://nepalteallc.com His tea story is richer than most, you can talk about it in the same paradigm we talk about any tea story, the generational development, but there's the unique geography of Nepal that adds to it. So we can talk religion, border conflicts, education, so much. This could be a follow up episode another time, ideally in person in the new world, because in 2 hours we just kinda gloss over all of these topics. Lots more we could have gone into. Order the sampler packs on his website, they're great ways to learn different teas.
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The context of why I connected Sara Gran @sara_gran is wild. I tell the story here. Also see previous episode with Sara on as guest. Thanks to Soho Press, buy the book to read the rest! https://www.amazon.com/Come-Closer-Sara-Gran-ebook/dp/B004HYHAT4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Sara+gran+come+closer&qid=1592785073&sr=8-1
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Continuing from yesterday's episode with Ash Carter, I start to read Ash's book about a half hour in. Otherwise I just talk about stuff. But listen to whole thing because I ramble but it all heads toward context for the reading. You can also totally just listen to the reading and enjoy it on its own.
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Ash (not on social media bc) and I go back to college, but both grew up in NYC, and our parents who ran in similar circles, had weekend houses in same tiny town nobody else knew about until the last few years. Ash is one of the few friends I have whom can speak fluently on a Manhattan that is pretty much gone, or left to really old people. He's been writing and editing for a great list of magazines over the last few years, and published his first book last year on filmmaker, playwright, comedian, etc. Mike Nichols. https://www.amazon.com/Life-Isnt-Everything-Nichols-Remembered-ebook/dp/B07MMLT51Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=4PLD2444UHOA&dchild=1&keywords=mike+nichols+life+isn%27t+everything&qid=1592580308&sprefix=mike+nichols%2Caps%2C287&sr=8-1 He's an editor at https://airmail.news, which speaks to a segment of culture that does not give a shit what is trending on the internet, and enjoys picking up physical paper stained with ink. It's a smart venture, weekly wrap up of what's going on, with in depth articles on stuff we might care about, and Cazzie David. The best part is the arts calendar. You can search a city and get listings of all the high brow stuff going on. Once I woke up to a burst pipe in my apartment, looked at https://airmail.news/arts-intel, and got on a plane to the place with the most art I wanted to see that week. We're due for a dinner uptown in the new world. I first typed post-quar, but then realized that is not a thing.
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Jason and I met at a tea festival in LA in 2015. You can hear me recall the three teas his brand was offering for tasting that day. Jason was a big part of my education in tea, where he and a few others would come by on weekends early and we'd just sit there for hours and get tea drunk. Jason and I keep this tradition up whenever we're both in LA, but he's been spending more and more time in Taiwan lately, working on both his family business and a new tea venture. I'll hopefully get to see him out there and go on the trip we speak of here.
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Andrew @awhyit is founder/CEO of Cala @thisiscala. They provide all the backend a clothing designer needs to focus on solely creative. I've talked a lot lately around how the music industry works on systems and practices that are only learned when passed person to person, so it becomes very difficult to learn how to do things "professionally" if you're not granted access. Fashion is even worse, because there's these even deeper ego issues. I experienced this myself, where it took me a long time to learn how to design, source fabrics, cut and sew, get solid rates, learn timelines and calendars, what deliverables were necessary when and to whom...I'm just talking manufacturing there. So much. Cala provides access to quality versions of each step, such that you don't need to learn, but their team can also educate you wherever necessary. Recorded on 6/4/20, so I referred to Smriti's episode with the mice.
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Boyfriend @rapcabaret has so many aspects to her life and artistic persona. She's a New Orleans rapper by way of Nashville, but this is such a tiny fragment of how we can describe her. This conversation starts about skin, goes into lots of talk on our positions as creatives and people. One of those episodes where I barely looked at my notes nor got into any of the topics, we had so much to talk about. It's a great listen for artists to think about how they find their position independently. What's important to understand is she did not set out to be an independent artist, she just wanted to make her art, and as she grew, the decisions progressively steered her away from the centralized industry machine and more toward building her own. Which she has now.
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Elia @eliaeinhorn was someone I immediately knew I wanted on the show. My exploration at this moment is all around communication. How should we communicate. So pre-quar, I was already thinking about podcasts...what should they be? We've clearly crossed the line where they've gone mainstream, but now it's a lot of noise. So how do we do it well? And what's making stuff going to be like in the new either post-quar or continuous semi-quar world? How are we going to integrate these finally firm lines that have been drawn on inequality? So much. I trust Elia to distill this as much as anyone. He's a learner, a listener. He's very sensitive, empathetic. Really knows how to talk to someone in such a way as to draw the beautiful ideas out of them. So he's a friend. And I wanted to ask him these questions on the show, work it out live. If you want my Kanye feelings, this is a good episode to listen to. Check out Elia on Pitchfork, Talkhouse, Sonos Radio and more.
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Nathan @nathanmicay is a music producer and DJ based in Berlin, originally from Toronto. I love his last two albums that took his sound to a soaring cinematic quality beyond dance music. I got must into the balance we talked about. Nathan has a really cool head on his shoulders when it comes to DJs. We talked perspective of touring, getting caught up comparing ourselves to peers, travel and healthy lifestyle. It's awesome how more and more are starting to think this way. He keeps his body in great shape as a top priority, and actually trains other DJs. Check out the latest The World I'm Going to Hell For on LuckyMe https://luckyme.bandcamp.com/album/the-world-im-going-to-hell-for
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Shunan @teadrunk founded NY's Tea Drunk in 2013 on my favorite block 7th St. + Ave. A. It was already my favorite block before she arrived, so adding arguably NY's best Chinese tea house means I can just spend entire days or weeks on the street in full bliss. Shunan is important in the tea world for lots of reasons. Her shop extends well beyond its four walls, which is so so so important to mainstreaming quality tea culture. She created a brilliant pop up at Metropolitan Museum of Art. Her Tea Ed video is a great intro to the real history of tea. She hosts tea clubs, classes, festivals, lately zoom conferences with talks about beautiful museum quality tea ware. Her tea club comes with literature on all the teas, with stories and directions that can make anyone an expert fast. https://www.ted.com/talks/shunan_teng_the_history_of_tea/transcript?language=en
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Ani's @animakesmovies second feature film The Short History of the Long Road comes out today in drive-ins across the US. Monday is the digital premiere with a live Q+A. Tuesday it's streaming everywhere. We talk releasing a film in this context, the landscape of diversity initiatives, working with Sabina Carpenter, a major celebrity playing against type, and the contemporary pathways for filmmakers. It was cool being able to capture this moment for Ani, as releasing a film is emotional always, but right now is unprecedented. She's remarkably cool and calm. I suspect this has something to do with running a commercial production company responsible for over 300 spots over the last 8 years. Check out where to watch her film @shorthistorylongroad https://www.shorthistorylongroad.com
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Natasha @natasha_stagg was on E029. Here's me discussing her work a little bit, and reading a few chapters from her recent essay collection Sleeveless, out now on Semiotext(e) https://mitpress.mit.edu/contributors/natasha-stagg.
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David (read his books http://davidnmeyer.com) played a huge part in my figuring things out in my life. I hated high school bc nobody cared about the life I had in the arts, it was taken as a distraction. Went to film school in Boston thinking I'd meet my people, and nobody really knew movies there. Emerson was full of sketch comedy kids who thought Stella (Kids in the Hall) was Kubrick. I thought I was alone. I thought I cared and knew more than anyone. But also had no idea how to do anything because I hated myself and the world so much, didn't see the point. I left Boston, came back to NY, and took a Japanese Cinema class at New School while I figured things out. First day I came in late, sat down next to Paul Dano. David lectured on Throne of Blood. It was all over my head. And I was surrounded by students young and old in fierce debate about Kurosawa, vocabulary I could not follow. David had this scene around him, so there were working directors and journalists who would come to the class just for David, so the room was incredible energy. And yeah. This was it. I found my people. Got my ass kicked. David gave me an A- on the Throne of Blood paper I wrote that week, I talked to him after class about it. Told him how confused I was and asked how I could have deserved this grade. He understood the thread I was thinking along, and even though I wasn't at the level the rest of them were on, he was steering my thinking. 15 years later, David is the first person I send my scripts to. He and Bianca are the ones who told me when I finally cracked my code a couple years ago, with the first script that really said what I was trying to say. I did make that film actually, but never showed anyone. David's not even seen it, only read the script. Anyway, this episode just has us talking movies and stuff. Read David's books on Gram Parsons, The Bee Gees, and Film Noir. And tell him you want him to publish the Miami Noir novel, it's really good.
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Sara @sara_gran wrote a book that possessed me. I read Come Closer in January when I was really sick. I traveled to Oaxaca in February, and I thought I was healthy, then I don't really know what happened, but I had this crazy freak out where I lost my short term memory and kept resetting. Felt like I was waking up, I'd forget what was going on, relearn it, and then be able to commit to thought or physical action before I reset again. I Facetime'd a friend during, to be safe, and for about an hour apparently, I was possessed by the demon from Sarah's book. My friend did not know about the book, so could not tell what was happening. But I played out the entire possession, unaware that I was doing so until much later. I remember talking myself out of it, once I became aware of what was happening. It was wild. Anyway, I got in touch with Sara, and just like this is what makes the internet and the world so cool, that we get to talk about this. I loved this talk, also amazing nuggets about early days Williamsburg that I did not know.
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Elina @floating.mountain is owner of Floating Mountain, the last tea house I visited before the world collapsed. I had a lovely afternoon of Rendezvous with French Film at Film at Lincoln Center, cookies at Levain Bakery, bought some records at Westsider Records, then had two oolongs over a couple hours at Floating Mountain. Wow. Feels like a lifetime ago. But it was a pleasure to connect via Zoom with Elina, and learn sooo much more about her practice and philosophy. The last part is really valuable for novices and experts, she breaks down tea recommendations for mood, energy, health need, lots. It's really beautiful.
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George @bigleemarvinfan is the first Twin Peaks cast member I have on here on purpose. His story bridges the gap between the beautiful world of the makers and the beautiful world of the fans. Because he started as a fan and ended up playing a huge role on the show. We talk through his early career up through his really, really great feature film From the Head. Into the amazing story of how he connected with David Lynch. Into the shooting of Twin Peaks: The Return and everything since.
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Natasha @natasha_stagg writes on topics close to my heart, that few build enough perspective on, that even fewer write things I like. Most of the writing on the fashion world, post-Sex and the City New York, is either industry or celebrity focused. Natasha is all human experience. Her voice is the draw. It's not a catchy headline or trending topic. We talk about how some of my favorite pieces of hers are just about a time she sat in a restaurant and observed. Few dare to put themselves out there like her also. She goes nitty gritty about the process that is her life, the balance that is her creative work. I'm happy she exists and getting to go in on ideas with her is one of those reasons why I do a show like this. Check out her latest essay collection from 2001 to today, Sleeveless...and her 2016 novel Surveys, both on the best of the best small press Semiotext(e).
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Dave @nickcaveandthebadmemes @sadpeaks is a memer turned other thingser. We love a lot of the same things, so we became internet friends. He's got a new podcast coming soon in collaboration with like the most obvious collaborator ever once you know what Dave cares about. The podcast comes off the back of Dave becoming this kind of modern world therapist or Dr. Drew on his IG. He posts each night something like "What's on your mind?" and...yo...I mean...like hundreds or thousands of people tell him. And he answers so many of them. You can watch any day. He's very very good at it. People like him a lot. This episode was recorded last week, and we talked a lot about mental health in pandemic times. Dave and I talked offline some, but this episode doesn't include the craziness going on with the protests. I think the kind of patience, empathy and perspective Dave provides is going to be really important in the new world.
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Smriti @kesharis and I met at Sundance just before her film and experience The Bomb premiered. I thought of her over the last few days because her film, focused on nuclear arms, ends with the words "our silence is a form of consent." Given what's going on right now, I was excited to connect with her about where she sees these ideas evolving. We touch on her other films The Selfish Gene and The Goal, a Leonard Cohen piece released around his post-humous 2019 album. We connect deeply on the ideas of DJing as applied to other forms.
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Daouda @daoudaleonard is founder of Createsafe https://createsafe.io/ He manages artists like Grimes and Bloodpop. Grimes just released her new LP Miss Anthropocene and her first art exhibition "Selling Out" https://www.maccarone.io Bloodpop executive produced the new Lady Gaga album Chromatica, which features work by other artists Daouda works with like Tchami. It represents the biggest mainstream commitment to dance music since the EDM boom. We talk more about the world right now, the protests, blackout Tuesday, barely even getting to the fact that we're still amidst a pandemic.
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Robb @beatport is CEO of Beatport, who just pledged to donate 100% of Tuesday's music industry blackout day proceeds. Dance music is black music, and there's no way forward without acknowledging and taking direct actions to support that. Beatport is a platform for DJ's to download music. There was a time where corporate interests confused that, but Beatport is doing all the right things now since Robb took the reins with new investor backing. All the tech features are there, cloud storage DJ sets, livestreams during quar, stems, all supporting the core of independent and underground dance music labels and DJs. Beatport does only 5% volume from majors. Playlists are not a thing, it's handmade DJ charts. Nothing sits on their sales charts for long either, everything is fresh, and driven by the culture. As Robb says, nobody wants to play the same music as everyone else, so the ecosystem remains active and lean-in. It's a totally different kind of consumer behavior than what we criticize in the mainstream currently.
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Kansas @kansasbowling first got on my radar via her appearance in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Afterwards, I did some digging on all the Manson girls. They're all super cool. But she is the coolest. She's more obsessed with horror movies than I am. Not just horror movies, but as we talked about, really anything. She made her first film with her own money (not rich people money, like waited tables money) at 17 years old. She tracked down her dream distributor and convinced them to put it out. She tracked down QT and convinced him to put her in OUATIH. And her forthcoming second feature, I'm confident, will top both of those. We talk a lot about Neil Breen too. Do a dive. http://neilbreen-5films.com And watch all the music videos on Kansas' website. http://kansas-bowling.com/musicvideos/ Especially "The Resort Beyond the Resort."
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Marshall Jefferson @marshall_jefferson is one of the foundational figures in House music. "Move Your Body (The House Music Anthem)" is actually universally accepted as the House music anthem. There's no other genre that actually has a universally accepted anthem. Marshall's big contribution to the story was those keys. His musicality. There were DJ's making stuff of the clubs, but he has always combined that energy with beautiful melodies and songwriting. Everything melodic in dance music at some point can be traced from those keys. We talk about lots of things, but I'm most excited for the new Ten City LP, Marshall's collab with Byron Stingily.
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Isabel @isabelvsandoval and I met at Venice Film Fest immediately following her Lingua Franca world premiere. It was fun diving into it, comparing her austerity and restraint within a topic so obviously exploited by so many pieces of 'content' over the last few years, I won't even say films. Isabel is so so smart. I love diving deep into our artistic connections, we're both major students of film. I'm honored to have worked with Isabel recently on a film of my own, that perhapsssss people will see sometime soon. I break from my edit session to write this intro, and the next email I expect in my inbox should be a link to picture lock. I held this episode a week because there's some announcements that are coming shortly before this will air, really exciting stuff. Isabel has been furiously touring the globe with Lingua Franca, at all of the most amazing festivals, and she's about to launch her next project, building an amazing support system of international partners. I'm very excited to see what's next, because it feels like the first fully free piece she will make. She goes into that a lot on this episode.
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Jeff Weiss @passionweiss and I met a few years ago in Israel. I'm weird in groups so I don't think we talked much. Sounds like I'm kidding but I'm totally serious. I'm still very very uncomfortable with new groups of people, whether they know each other or not. So somehow with years of my reading Jeff's writing and actually knowing him for a while now, we'd never really chopped it up. So this convo went on for 2.5 hours apparently, but I felt like I was uncomfortably cutting us off when we ended. We could chat all day. Jeff started out as an LA rap music aficionado and has become this kinda go-to LA culture historian. Like he's the dude who wrote THE Kobe piece. There were lots. But the one everyone shared after the 60 point night, and his recent tragic death--Jeff put the words to what we felt. Recently he's put out a lot of good ones on Eminem, RZA, Kendrick, Los Angeles, Britney, check his feed for more. I was hyperlinking these posts for a while but realized it only works on Anchor and nobody really looks at that, so just go on Jeff's instagram and he links everything there. We talk about everything. This won't be his last visit I hope.
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Ebony is the better half of Lost Under Heaven (LUH), where we had Ellery on last week. Ebony and Ellery are my favorite couple. They live a life I really marvel at, with love and creation all together and flowing one to the other fluidly. I have so much to learn from her. Spent much of this episode asking her questions about how to conduct energy, how to connect mine to that of others, reading theirs, funneling it all into my art. Ebony and Ellery are figuring out how to make art in the new world. We've talked a lot about lateral movement into different forms, and focusing on the micro fanbases, patronage, building our own ecosystems. Ebony has already evolved significantly and fast, where the original narrative of LUH was around her adding a visual component to Ellery's music, the second album featured her sharing equal vocal and songwriting duties. She's powerful. 20 episodes already!
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Banoffee / Martha and I met a long time ago, like almost ten years ago I'd say, when I was cool. I was super cool for a minute, she acknowledges on the show. She's way cooler these days. I remember catching up with her in LA a few years ago and her sunbathing by my pool w her armpit hair and thinking oh she became really cool now. And so her debut album came out right before the rona on Cascine Records (featured on the previous Jeff Bratton episode). We talk about how it doesn't matter. Because something happened for Martha in the last few years, and she's in front now. Everyone she's friends with and working with are the most progressive creatives on earth. And her album is really really good pop music. So we're gonna look for music in the new world. And she's going to be making it.
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Jeff @jeffbratton is founder of Cascine Records. I'm gonna call it New York's Cascine Records. Because in my mind, Cascine's ten years moving through and shaping NYC's independent music community will dictate their next chapter, even if it's in East LA where all the cool kids seem to be today. Jeff is part of what I'd consider the first kinda label collective. Not formal in any way. But we talk about it, there's a squad of indie labels that came out of NYC around the same time that all helped each other out. This wasn't a time marked by competition in signings, as he tells one story, it was actually the opposite, where labels would suggest projects for each other. These labels all just kinda have their flavor, and the infrastructure takes shape around that. And when you're in it, you understand that artists fit how they fit. It's very different from the music industry that people hear about. So this was a pleasure to go deep. Next episode is one of Jeff's artists also.
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Justin introduced himself to me when we first met. It was very strange and uncomfortable for me. You know those moments you remember every detail of, like you can replay and feel the entire thing in your mind? I was DJing every night at this point, but it was early days of my becoming some version of a respectable dance music DJ. I know what club it was, but I don't know which iteration of it, like one of those spaces in Meatpacking that changed names every year. I was hanging, and went to the DJ booth to drop my bag, which was just kinda DJ etiquette that one DJ would watch another DJ's gear. And so I kinda abruptly went to the booth and dropped it without interrupting the guy. But Justin turned and introduced himself, and I felt like such a fucking jackass entering his booth like that. He'd never remember this nor describe it this way, but I really hated myself at that moment. It just wasn't the way I wanted to meet someone I looked up to. I called Eli Escobar the preeminent NYC DJ, but Justin Strauss is singular in his position. His first residency was at the Mudd Club in the early 80s, and he's DJ'd NYC consistently, and on the highest level, since then. He's the DJ's DJ. He's like the guy we all look at to do right by. I remember when I got to book Justin at my parties was a cool surprising moment. It seems obvious that I'd eventually play with him, but it was validating to me. I always thought of him as someone far off, like cooler and more credible than me. Getting to know him over the years has taught me a lot, his humility and sincerity. I love looking at how much he loves what he does. It makes me love it more. On another less sentimental level, the music he releases is always just the perfect dance floor tone. Right now, he's got Each Other, Extra Credit and Trading Places. That's in addition to Whatever/Whatever, A/JUS/TED, Milk & Cookies and man, I don't even know, he's got a lot of music to dive into. Honored to have him on here.
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Eli is NYC's preeminent DJ. Period. For dance music that is, of course there may be other genres other people I've never met care about. There's been others in the past, but it's been him for a minute now. I think Francoise K and Danny Krivit had times. I see my next guest, Justin Strauss, in this other category, he's always been someone I look up to as creating the situation I've enjoyed, but it's like Justin never required the attention. Eli doesn't ask for any attention either, but he gets it. He tells us the story of Tiki Disco, humble random beginnings turned into NYC's best known party really of the decade. He's got his long desired Eli all night long residency now at House of Yes. Welcome addition to NYC dance music calendar after Francoise's Monday Cielo ending. I planned to actually post Eli as my first DJ episode, born and raised NYC DJ, but I wanted to wait until Sunday, so I swapped with Scuba. Sunday, May 24...if I were in NYC. I'd be at Tiki Disco. So cue up one of his mixes after you listen, and pretend for a bit.
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Scuba @scubaofficial has always been an artist project that stood out to me. Since early days of listening, I've been aware of the artist as an actual person, who runs a label (Hot Flush), and uses Twitter to share perspective and info on the life of a DJ, industry goings on, general ideas. I've related to him from afar in many ways--shifting musical genres over time...dedication to club life while also managing real life stuff...and speaking his mind openly despite controversy. I've seen all of that as fearless and active, it made Paul someone I've looked up to and respected for a long time. Getting to talk in depth with him was a treat, especially when I got to share some tea knowledge with him at the end. I encourage you to sample different eras of Scuba's music. The tasteful dubstep. The hard and fast. The club anthems. The house-y. Lots more. UPDATE: Great thread by Paul: https://twitter.com/ScubaOfficial/status/1264111038041120768
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Mariana es una revolución! Tambien ustedes quien vieron su película Ema saben que Ema es un revolución, pero Mariana es un GRAN revolución real! Mariana is the star of Pablo Larrain's latest Venice Film Fest premiered, recent Mubi (shout Mubi Library debut today) quar treat previewed film Ema. I watched it and told everyone it was non-linear. It's not. It's completely chronological. I just got that swept up in Ema's revolución (check link for full dance music video, Nico Jaar did the film's music). There's really never been an on screen character like the one Mariana and Pablo created. I can't wait for y'all to see it. I say the real life Mariana is more than Ema because, as we speak of, she's a leader not only in Chilean cinema, but she's a legit on the ground activist. Her activism reminds me of the best on the ground Ferguson reporting. Mariana is often the one taking those viral videos of the subway protests. She then goes on IG stories and explains what's going on. Writes eloquently on the situation. Connects her community around the causes. Larrain wrote Ema as the metaphorical sun of her cinematic universe, and I see Mariana similarly in real life. You'll see her energy here. I kept her laugh in the beginning because her speech is such a vibe. Major thanks to @biancallen for joining us and helping me not butcher Mariana's beautiful Chilean Spanish.
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Ellery is one of those artists who as soon as I learned about him I just wanted to know. I'm really happy to say he (along with his partner Ebony Hoorn whom will be featured next week) has become friend. I've had the pleasure of sharing tea, meals, drinks, shows. Ideas. The guy is full of them. Every aspect of his existence if felt and thought out. He really. lives by doctrine I respect and follow, of examining the day, and making it exactly what you choose it to be. His experience as an artist has touched more aspects than most, his perspective as broad as his tastes. This is a cool follow up to Preservation Hall episode, because his band Lost Under Heaven are pivoting to a patronage model. We get deep into that. He tells stories from his artistic beginnings with WU LYF, to blockchain collabs, to everything coming next.
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I met John Thorne exactly three years ago (yesterday, but I had another Twin Peaks episode ahead of it) at the Twin Peaks: The Return world premiere in LA. It was possibly the best night of my life. In 1993, John, along with Craig Miller, cofounded Wrapped in Plastic, the first (and IMHO best) TV fan zine ever, on Twin Peaks. I was an avid reader of that and John's compendium book. Apart from letting me pick his brain regularly, John introduced me to the Reber family, current occupants of Laura Palmer's house. Visiting there was one of the most special experiences of my life, especially learning how wonderful the family is. No spoilers, but they play a legendary role in the series. "She's dead. Wrapped in plastic."
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Bob and Laura Antone are actually named Bob and Laura and actually from North Bend, the shooting location of Twin Peaks. I was lucky to meet them in the Summer of 2017 when I visited the site weeks before the finale. I met them by chance, they asked me what I was doing there, I told them, and that moment I was lucky to have met THE local authority on all things Twin Peaks since the beginning. Die hard that I was, I never knew all of the local legend that paralleled the narrative and themes of the work. Laura, being indigenous, goes deep into her family history, how the land and people have evolved over time and how conflict has shaped them. These are really rich, beautiful stories I'm so happy to receive first hand. Read their book to learn much, much more.
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You probably know him as Mike Nervous, I know him as Uncle Michael. Nervous Records is an institution. 20+ years of consistent dance music releases and club nights, hasn't slowed down once. We talk about what that looks like today, what's going to happen next. We talk about the need for flexibility, how he can keep Nervous going, keep employees paid, because when club nights go away, there's increased streaming, and t-shirts, and more. Everyone has to think about this now. https://www.nervousnyc.com
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Don Mei is the most charismatic person in the tea world. IMHO. Check his YouTube videos (after this episode of course), they are engaging and informative, both a wonderful introduction into the tea world and not only the detailed in depth knowledge, but explorations you don't see elsewhere like his trip to Tongmu (which we talk a lot about). Find everything on www.meileaf.com Also, order from their site and use code 'glass20' for 20% off! I recommend the new Long Jing green, and the two custom roasts we speak of on the episode.
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The Book of Tea by Kakuzo Okakura. Weekend reading. My favorite intro to the world of tea. I love learning of the symbiosis of ideology and practice. This is how we decide how to live.
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Ben Jaffe is creative director, second generation owner, and band leader of Preservation Hall New Orleans. Hallowed ground. One of, if not the single, most important physical space for music (and so many things), in one of, if not the, most important music city in the world. It's a beautiful place I've had the pleasure of spending lots of time in, there's nothing like it. We talk about many things, but most importantly, we dive into the foundation that started out of Katrina. Weathering that literal storm has brought Preservation Hall to a rare position of preparedness to weather the current Covid-19 storm. We think about the aspect of patronage and where artists in general are headed, how they can integrate these strategies. How the understandings of Preservation Hall (5 shows a night), Preservation Hall Jazz Band (touring worldwide since 1960s), and new ventures like Krewe du Kanaval (partnered with Win Butler and Regine Chassagne of Arcade Fire) can apply to the entire world of music. This isn't just a pleasure for me to rap with Ben, a good friend I've shared so many meaningful moments with, but I see this episode as an actual suggestion of a way forward for art and artists. Please support and find lots of info at www.preservationhall.com
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Twin Peaks deep dive, my first of three this week and many more in future I'm sure. The Twin Peaks community is unlike any other. The fans and stars are often great friends and collaborators. Wrapped in Plastic was the first of its kind in 1992, a dedicated fan made magazine that ran for 13 years, founded by John Thorne (this weekend) and Craig Miller. There was nothing like this, and it's hugely influential. 25 years later, when season three was announced, Scott Ryan took up this huge responsibility, and founded Blue Rose Magazine. Scott and I met at the premiere of season three in 2017, and I've followed all of his work since. He's become a huge proponent of one of the most important elements of my life. We speak of how beautiful the Summer of 2017 was, during the airing of Twin Peaks: The Return, and all of Scott's output since, which is vast. Find everything on: https://www.bluerosemag.com We'll have him back in the Fall to talk about Courtney Stallings' new Laura Palmer book that is very close to my heart.
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In my Music Business Worldwide article, I highlighted a lot of my favorite things from quar. Listen to me talk about em. If you can't find anything, ask me. https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/make-your-imagination-real-now-is-the-time/
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I wrote an article for Tim Ingham's Music Business Worldwide. Here's me reading it. Check text on: https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/make-your-imagination-real-now-is-the-time/
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Mike Ortiz of @sipjojo based out of Miami, Florida. Mike won Tea Masters Cup 2019. He'd be defending it next month if not for the rona. Mike got into tea via meditation and Qi Gong practices. Contra to me, body practice came first, then tea practice. I discovered tea and learned about everything it pertained to once I got hooked. So there's a lot I learned here, how tea and its practice can parallel internal and external in ways I hadn't thought of. If you haven't noticed yet, this show is just an excuse for me to get access to the people I wanna learn stuff from. www.sipjojo.com
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I think about what this should be. I don't want to just do interviews and ramble and all that. I want this to be expressionist. I want to show raw ideas in a way that this medium is best capable. Something happened right after I recorded episode one. And I felt like telling the story to someone. I realized this is actually the perfect way to get it out. It's a two part episode, I recorded right after the event, and then the next morning after talking with a relative of, well, you'll see. Fyi, this isn't a fun episode, something horrible happened and this is me narrating what I witnessed. The event is more gory and upsetting than I could make up, but I don't go into detail about it. Love to everyone I speak of here.
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First episode! Shauna (9 mins in, @sparkedheart Head of Brand Partnerships at @thefader) and I talk about how creative industries will be affected by the virus. I angle most of the conversation to creatives (particularly musicians) and the gatekeepers like Shauna. How do creatives approach editors and marketing consultants, and how do those editors and marketing consultants responsibly manage the flow of resources?
Notes + transcript www.sean.glass
Video www.instagram.com/sdotglass
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