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ABOUT KARA

Kara Powell, PhD, is the Executive Director of the Fuller Youth Institute (FYI) and a faculty member at Fuller Theological Seminary. As a youth ministry veteran of over 20 years, she serves as an Advisor to Youth Specialties. Named by Christianity Today as one of "50 Women You Should Know", Kara is the author or co-author of a number of books including Sticky Faith, Essential Leadership, Deep Justice Journeys, Deep Justice in a Broken World, Deep Ministry in a Shallow World, and the Good Sex Youth Ministry Curriculum.

CHARACTERISTICS OF CHURCHES REACHING MILLENNIALS:

The Issue:

“The first job of leaders is to define reality.”

The best research indicates that almost half of youth group grads are leaving the church after they graduate.

The young adult population is grossly underrepresented in most churches.

The vast majority of churches are aging and shrinking.

Kara and the team at Fuller Youth Institute have been researching churches that are beating the odds and “gr

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CHURCH PLANTING

God will never promote you beyond what your character can sustain.

Church Planting

Birthing a church is like birthing a child.

Pregnancy- this stage is the planting and growth of God’s vision for the church that He wants to birth through you. It is so important that this “pregnancy” is taken full-term, not birthed prematurely. During this time, it is important to trust the leaders in your life and their wisdom for timing.

It’s one thing to stand next to a leader and feel like you are carrying the weight of that leadership, but you won’t know the full weight of leadership until you get there yourself.

Building a Team

It is important to surround yourself with people that can come alongside you and lift your hands, not hang off your hands. People that bring solutions, not just problems, are critical to supporting a lead pastor.

It’s a privilege to get close to the “spiritual nakedness” of your leader. It’s in our brokenness that the light of Jesus shines thr

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ABOUT DAN

Dan and Kelly Matlock grew up in the Midwest but fell in love with Texas when they moved there in 2003. In 2011 they felt called to start a church in Hays County. Dan loves spending time with his family, being outdoors, playing sports, and driving his motorcycle. He’s an avid football fan in general but a diehard fan of the Green Bay Packers and the Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

BE THE CHURCH

Be The Church:

Build an awesome team around you.

Before you “have” church, you have to BE the church.

When you look at the life of Jesus, he was not surrounded by “Christians” all the time. How can we get in people’s worlds and be the church outside the walls of a church?

Get involved in the community. The church is here to serve people.

The church exists to show the community what God is like.

Serving the community with no strings attached will open doors for relationships later on.

Be intentionally close to others churches. When the church wins, the kingdom wins.

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ABOUT KYLE

Kyle Turner is the lead pastor of The Cause: A Jesus Church, which he launched in September 2010 with his wife, Liz, in the heart of Kansas City, MO. Kyle and Liz have two children: Blaire and Graham, as well as a furry one named Cub. Kyle is an all-around sports fan, played a mean game of high school basketball, and loves riding motorcycles. He is also surprisingly good at free-styling fresh rap lyrics.

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iTunes - Episode #69: Kyle Turner - Church Planting & Seeking God's Calling

Google Play - Episode #69: Kyle Turner - Church Planting & Seeking God's Calling

Church Planting & Seeking God's Calling

  1. UNITY: Unity is essential, especially in a marriage, when it comes to answering God’s calling. You shouldn't have to trick your spouse into God’s calling.

It’s better to do things slower and in unity than to jump into something when you're not on the same page.

  1. SEEK AUTHORITY: Do whatever it takes to hear from God. There will be hard times, so a

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ABOUT RICH

Rich is one of the early multisite church pioneers. He served on the leadership team of Connexus Community Church in Ontario, a North Point Community Church Strategic Partner. Currently he serves as Operations Pastor at Liquid Church in the suburbs of New Jersey. Rich is married to Christine and lives in Scotch Plains, NJ with their two kids and one dog.

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iTunes - Episode #68: Rich Birch - Unreasonable Churches Google Play - Episode #68: Rich Birch - Unreasonable Churches

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multisitesolutions.com

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UNREASONABLE CHURCHES

Ninety-four percent of churches are losing ground against the growth of the communities they are in.

  1. Unreasonable Fundraising

It is important for leaders to be very clear why the cause is important and why this is important right NOW. When a compelling vision (WHY) connects with an urgent NOW, that will motivate people. Peop

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ABOUT FRANK

After more than five years of building children’s ministry strategies at one of the most influential churches in the nation, Frank Bealer is expanding his scope to work on systems and strategies that will help thousands of other churches.

Frank is the founding CEO of the Phase Family Centers, an innovative concept for bringing together churches, families and communities. Frank is also the Executive Director of Leadership Development at Orange / The Rethink Group and the author of The Myth of Balance.

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iTunes - Episode #67: Frank Bealer - The Myth of Balance

Google Play - Episode #67: Frank Bealer - The Myth of Balance

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Frank's Twitter

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FamilyMinistry.Church

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MythofBalance.com

THE MYTH OF BALANCE

God didn't call us to sacrifice the family He’s given us on the alter of Ministry.

We must weigh things against the calling God has placed on our lives. Are w

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ABOUT DEAN

Dean is the founding pastor of Rock. He has been married to his wife, Kim, since 1983 and they have three adult children; Alesha, Allyson and Preston. Since 1981 Dean has served in the full time ministry. Prior to starting the church in 2004 he served as a Youth and Associate Pastor in three different churches. Along with his current pastoral duties Dean is also an adjunct professor at Charis Bible College in Woodland Park.

SERVANT LEADERSHIP

Recognizing Staff Abuse: Staff Abuse: the idea that you can treat people who work for you however you want in the name of serving God.

Common Characteristics of Staff Abuse:

demanding, disrespectful leader belittles staff from platform micromanaging & lack of trust failure to delegate not communicating or building relationships with staff not giving appropriate affirmation This is not what Jesus modeled to us. Harsh leadership hurts and wounds people.

We are a reflection of the greatest influence in our life.

The Serv

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ABOUT KENNETH

Kenneth has over a decade of ministry experience. He currently lives in Colorado and serves on staff at his local church. He and his wife Andrea have three children. Kenneth's life has been forever changed by pursuing a genuine, dynamic relationship with Jesus.

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iTunes - Episode #65: Kenneth Weston - It's All About Jesus

Google Play - Episode #65: Kenneth Weston - It's All About Jesus

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Code Orange Revival - Joyce Meyer

IT'S ALL ABOUT JESUS

Sometimes it takes something drastic in our lives for us to start seeking a true, personal relationship with Jesus.

God doesn't send negative circumstances, the enemy does, but He can use those situations to draw us in.

Dive into the Word

Let it show you the Truth. Come without preconceived notions or ideas. Ask God to reveal Himself through His Word. Be open. “Holy Spirit, show me something today.

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Brian is a husband, father of three, and businessman. He is an OU grad and currently works in the Oil & Gas industry. Brian serves as a high-level volunteer for the Directional Leadership Team at Church on the Move. Brian is the co-founder of the Mountain Men ministry, dedicated to helping men find true life-change through an authentic relationship with Jesus.

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iTunes - Episode #64: Brian Jobe - Ask, Seek, Knock

Google Play - Episode #64: Brian Jobe -Ask, Seek, Knock

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Brian's Twitter

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creativesheep.org

Church On The Move Men's Breakfast: Brian Jobe

Blue Letter Bible App

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ASK, SEEK, KNOCK

Matthew 7:7-8 "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

Life is about people, no matter what avenue or venture you are in. We ca

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Earl is the Lead Pastor of Shoreline Dallas. He has been in full-time ministry for 18 years. He and his beautiful wife Oneka with their two handsome boys moved to Dallas to launch Shoreline Dallas Church. A vibrant church with over 1,000 people who call Shoreline their home. It’s only been three years since the launch and God has been doing amazing things there. His vision is to see “On Earth as it is in Heaven.”

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iTunes - Episode #63: Conquer Fear with Faith Google Play - Episode #63: Conquer Fear with Faith

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CONQUER FEAR WITH FAITH

Sometimes we misinterpret the advice and encouragement of those closest to us as criticism. We must face our own insecurities to truly be open to hearing from others.

Are your insecurities a blessing or a stronghold?

2 Corinthians 11:30 “If I must boast, I would rather boast about the things that show how weak I am.”

Don’t

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ABOUT PAUL

Paul Daugherty, along with his wife Ashley, serve as the Lead Pastors of Victory in Tulsa, Oklahoma. They have two boys, Liam and Benaiah.

Paul and Ashley travel around the world speaking at churches, conferences and city wide outreaches. Paul is the youngest son of the late Billy Joe Daugherty, the founder of Victory Christian Ministries.

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iTunes - Episode #62: Paul Daugherty - Navigating Transition Google Play - Episode #62: Paul Daugherty - Navigating Transition

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Pastor Paul's Twitter Pastor Paul's Facebook Pastor Paul's Instagram PaulDaugherty.org Victory Church

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CreativeSheep.org Learning to Lead Podcast

NAVIGATING TRANSITION

Keep Getting Ready:

A season of transition can feel frustrating and uncertain, but its important to keep getting ready, to keep training. Nobody is 100% ready as they enter a new role, but God prepares us along the way. Read, listen to podcasts, meet with mentors and leaders as you prep

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ABOUT DANIEL

Daniel is a successful multi-business owner and entrepreneur. He obtained an advertising degree from Oral Roberts University. He is currently a partner in Thrive15, a subscription-based online and off-line practical training resource for entrepreneurs.

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iTunes - Episode #61: Daniel McKenna - Maintaining Motivation

Google Play - Episode #61: Daniel McKenna - Maintaining Motivation

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Daniel's Twitter

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Thrive 15

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CreativeSheep.org Thrive15.com The Daily Hustle Youtube The Power of the Pull by Steven Furtick

MAINTAINING MOTIVATION

“Most people overestimate what they can do in one year and underestimate what they can do in ten years.” - Bill Gates

Building Great Systems:

  1. Outstanding training: transfer your vision & passion through employees/volunteers first, then it will reach your audience/church members.
  2. Ridiculous checklists: a living, breathing document that changes a

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ABOUT RYAN

Ryan works at Life.Church as part of the Digerati team, an interactive team of people responsible for the web & app experience, giving, volunteer, and people platform experiences. He has a background as an agency graphic designer. Ryan is an Oklahoma native and OSU grad. He lives in Edmond with his wife, Jennifer, and two sons.

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iTunes - Episode #60: Ryan Tauss - Inside the Life.Church Digerati Team

Google Play - Episode #60: Ryan Tauss - Inside the Life.Church Digerati Team

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Ryan's Twitter

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Ryan on Behance

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CreativeSheep.org

The High Impact Leader

Develop.me

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INSIDE THE LIFE.CHURCH DIGERATI TEAM

The 3 Areas of Leadership:

Self Family Work How can you lead with passion in every area?

Using Technology to Build Relationships:

Technology should be leveraged to engage people and build relationships.

Think through the product in the experience aspec

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A leader points the way and sets the pace of the home. It’s critical to have goals for yourself and for your family.

In Your Marriage: Never quit dating your spouse. Let your kids see you in love with your spouse. Three areas that need intentional attention in marriage: Prayer life/ spiritual life Money Intimacy If you're not working on these 3 areas intentionally, the relationship will struggle.

Parenting: Deuteronomy 6 was written for parents. Often times, parents want better for their kids in most areas, but spirituality can be neglected. It’s easy to settle for “just don't be bad.” Parents are responsible for setting the pace and having a vision for the home. If you have a vision for kids at the church, you should have a vision for the kids in your home. If you don't have a plan or goals to aim at, it won't happen. Be intentional.

Positional vs. Relational Leadership: Positional leadership is the lowest form of leadership. Anybody can be a father. Strive to be a daddy;

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ABOUT BEN

Ben currently serves at Liquid Church in New Jersey as the Creative Arts Pastor overseeing the weekend services, mentoring the worship department, leading the video department & pastoring the church online community. Ben is married to his wife, Rose, and is the father of two girls.

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iTunes - Episode #58: Ben Stapley - Cultivating a Creative Team Google Play - Episode #58: Ben Stapley - Cultivating a Creative Team

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Ben's Twitter

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kindrid.com

Liquid Church

CULTIVATING A CREATIVE TEAM

Building a Team

Someone in your church has the skill set you are looking for that would be willing get engaged on a volunteer time. The arts are often underutilized for volunteer positions. Who are the people on your team and what are their gifts that can help you build? Start with people and not your product. Strive for communicative clarity.

Asking for Volunteer Work

Lead wit

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ABOUT JOHN MITCHELL

John is the owner and operator of Creative Audio Lab in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Creative Audio Lab does custom music creation, music and sound design, and on location audio. In addition, John has launched a site called musicfromthelab.com, a unique music library created by the collaborative team at Creative Audio Lab. John is married and the father of two.

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iTunes - Episode #57: John Mitchell - A Natural Strategy for a Supernatural Calling Google Play - Episode #57: John Mitchell - A Natural Strategy for a Supernatural Calling

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Creative Audio Lab Twitter

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Creative Audio Lab

Creative Audio Lab Instagram

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musicfromthelab.com

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A NATURAL STRATEGY FOR A SUPERNATURAL CALLING

Working in Excellence

Excellence means not settling for the status quo. Excellence is never a cookie cutter process. Working with efficiency. Creative exce

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ABOUT CAREY

Carey Nieuwhof is founding pastor of Connexus Church and is author of several bestselling books.

Carey blogs, podcasts, writes and speaks to church leaders around the world about leadership, change and personal growth.

LISTEN NOW iTunes - Episode #56: Carey Nieuwhof - High Impact Leader

Google Play - Episode #56: Carey Nieuwhof - High Impact Leader

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Carey's Twitter

Carey's Facebook

Carey's Instagram

CareyNieuwhof.com

Carey's Blog

Carey Nieuwhof's Leadership Podcast

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Kindrid.com

TheHighImpactLeader.com

HIGH IMPACT LEADER

Your Story: Start learning from leaders around you. Be patient. Don't give up when you're not seeing the success you're wanting to see. You are living your story and God’s story. God is writing a story in your life right now. There comes a point when you process your progress and realize your story could help somebody else. Focus as much ON the story as the telling of the story. You have to be a

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ABOUT RYAN

Ryan serves as a bi-vocational pastor, CEO of KidzMatter, creator of 12 Stone Ventures and the co-founder of The Leverage Group. Ryan and his wife, Beth, publish KidzMatter Magazine, a publication for those who minister to kids and families in the church. He is the author of 9 Things They Didn’t Teach Me in College About Children’s Ministry, Pulse (KidzMatter), Give Me Jesus, and The Volunteer Code. Ryan serves as the co-Founder and Dean of Kidmin Academy, the co-Founder of Kidmin Nation, and the Executive Director of the Sam Chand Leadership Institute.

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iTunes - Episode #55 - Leading the Most Important Organization

Google Play - Episode #55: Ryan Frank - Leading the Most Important Team

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Ryan Frank Twitter

Ryan Frank Facebook

Ryan Frank Youtube

RyanFrank.com

LEADING THE MOST IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION Making Family Your Priority

If you don’t fight for your family, nobody else will. Your schedule shows where your heart is. Love is spe

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ABOUT JON SANDERS

Jon is the founder and head pastor of The Rescue Church, a multi-site church that started in South Dakota. Jon left his career as a full-time firefighter to answer God’s calling on his life to enter ministry. Jon lives in South Dakota with his wife and three children.

LISTEN NOW iTunes - Episode #54: Jon Sanders - Dealing with Betrayal

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Jon's Blog

Kindrid.com

Small Town Big Church Podcast

The Rescue Church

DEALING WITH BETRAYAL

Finding Your Calling

God doesn't call the equipped, He equips the called.

God only wants us to be willing enough; we don't have to be old enough, experienced enough, smart enough, ready enough, etc.

God writes a much better story than we could write for ourselves.

Sometimes God asks us to give up / sacrifice something we love for Him to work in our lives.

Our j

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ABOUT DUSTY OTIS

Dusty is the former strength and conditioning coach for Lincoln Christian School and has a passion for physical health. He is currently the Campus Pastor for Church on the Move’s South Campus. He lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma with his wife and three children.

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iTunes - Episode #53: Dusty Otis - Stewarding Your Body through Healthy Habits

Google Play - Episode #53: Dusty Otis - Stewarding Your Body through Healthy Habits

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Dusty's Twitter

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Dusty's Instagram

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kindrid.com

YouVersion Rick Warren’s 365 Daily Devotional

bodybuilding.com

YouVersion Visioneering Plan

STEWARDING YOUR BODY THROUGH HEALTHY HABITS

Forming Healthy Habits:

"Motivation gets you started, but habits keep you going."

We are composed of 3 parts, spirit, mind, and body, but we can tend to neglect the third part, the body.

Healthy habits include a realistic routine, eating right, and adequate rest.

Dusty's Morning Routine

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ABOUT RANDY & DAN

Randy and Dan are a father & son with years of experience in ministry. Randy and his wife, Helen, decided to move to Oklahoma with three young sons to get involved in the ministry of Church on the Move. Randy is now the Next Steps pastor for Church on the Move. Dan was raised attending the church and Lincoln Christian School and felt called to ministry during college. He is the Kids on the Move director and oversees ages newborn to 6th grade, along with staff and volunteers.

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iTunes - Episode #52: Randy & Dan DeBell - Raising Godly Kids

Google Play - Episode #52: Randy & Dan DeBell - Raising Godly Kids

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Dan DeBell Twitter

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RAISING GODLY KIDS

Communication & Time

Take the time to sit, talk, laugh, play. Ask your kids about their life, their day, school. It develops the ability to read them to know when something is off. Invest when they're young. Your kids will know they can always

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ABOUT SAM WOODS

Sam is the youth pastor at Oneighty, the young adult ministry for Church on the Move. He has been involved in Oneighty for almost 18 years after starting as a volunteer. A Florida native, he moved from his home in Destin to attend ORU, where he met his wife and was first invited to attend a service at Oneighty. Sam has grown as a leader and pastor and has become a phenomenal communicator reaching people for Jesus.

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iTunes - Episode #51: Sam Woods - How to Better Prepare for Communicating

Google Play - Episode #51: Sam Woods - How to Better Prepare for Communicating

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Sam Woods Twitter

Sam Woods Facebook

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Finding Your Calling Podcast by Todd Wilson: Rick Warren

Finding Your Calling Podcast with Todd Wilson: Carey Nieuwhof

The Moment Podcast with Seth Godin

Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast: Sharpening Your Communication Skills Part 1

Craig Groeschel Leadership Podcast: Sharpening Your

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ABOUT ROMAN JOHNSON

Roman is the Creative Director for CreativeSheep.org and the Resident Rapper. He lives in Tulsa, Oklahoma with his wife and stellar son. When he's not leading his team as the Curriculum Director for the children's ministries at Church on the Move, he can be found on the basketball court or writing rap songs.

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iTunes - Episode #50: Roman Johnson - Cultivating Creativity Google Play - Episode #50: Roman Johnson - Cultivating Creativity

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Twitter

Roman Johnson Facebook

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CreativeSheep.org

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ProPresenter

The End is Near III

The Legend of Squatch Hollow

See You on Monday

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CULTIVATING CREATIVITY

Being Self-Taught

Growth comes in steps and stages, not overnight.

Starting out:

Use YouTube. There is so much free help/tutorials on the internet! “Steal” from other artists that inspire you, tweaking and making your art your o

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ABOUT BRADY SHEARER

Brady is a videographer & motion graphics designer living in Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada with his wife. He is the creator of the company Prochurchtools.com, a site that provides church leaders with creative skills, pro tips & practical tools for communications, video, & design. Brady loves the Toronto Blue Jays & San Francisco 49ers and enjoys classic sitcoms & The Simpsons.

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iTunes - Episode #49: Brady Shearer - A Checklist for Storytelling Google Play - Episode #49: Brady Shearer - A Checklist for Storytelling

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Brady Shearer Twitter Brady Shearer Facebook Brady Shearer Instagram bradyshearer.com Prochurchtools.com

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kindred.com

Propresenter

prochurchtools.com

The Ultimate Guide to Snapchat for Churches

Prochurchtools Academy

Gary Vaynerchuk

A CHECKLIST FOR STORYTELLING

Why Storytelling?

People love storytelling because it is scientifically proven to be the most powerful form of human communication

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ABOUT JOSEPH SANGL

Joseph Sangl is a leading teacher of personal finances. It is his passion and mission “to help people accomplish far more than they ever thought possible with their personal finances.” He firmly believes that when people are financially free, they are much more likely to go do EXACTLY what they have been put on Earth to do – regardless of the income potential.

He is the founder of I Was Broke. Now I’m Not., an organization that provides financial teaching through live events, print and web resources. He is also the President and CEO of INJOY Stewardship Solutions, a company providing solutions that resource the vision of the local church.

HOW TO HAVE A FULLY FUNDED CHURCH

Financial Leadership: If a church has strong financial leadership, they will be able to fund the vision God has for them. Financial leadership is absolutely critical to the health of the church. Having margin in your finances allows you to more fully pursue what God has planned for you.

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ABOUT DEVON FRANKLIN

DeVon Franklin is an author, film producer, preacher and motivational speaker. He serves as President/CEO of Franklin Entertainment, a new first-look production company with 20th Century Fox. He began his career as an intern for Will Smith and James Lassiter. He was formerly the Senior Vice President of Production at Columbia Pictures and a studio executive at Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.

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iTunes - Episode #47: DeVon Franklin - Striving for Success with God at the Center

Google Play - Episode #47: DeVon Franklin - Striving for Success with God at the Center

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DeVon Franklin Twitter DeVon Franklin Facebook DeVon Franklin Instagram DeVonFranklin.com

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STRIVING FOR SUCCESS WITH GOD AT THE CENTER

Honor God First:

Be Bold.

Don’t be afraid to stand for what

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ABOUT WHIT GEORGE

Whitney George is the Executive Pastor at Church on the Move, where he oversees the operations and ministries of the church. Whitney is passionate about the local church and loves connecting with other church leaders. He and his wife, Heather, have five children and he loves Notre Dame football.

LISTEN NOW iTunes - Episode #46: Whit George - Changing Roles Google Play - Episode #46: Whit George - Changing Roles

GUEST LINKS Whitney George Twitter Whitney George Facebook Whitney George Consulting Seeds Blog

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CHANGING ROLES

Defining your vision:

Convictions are the heart of the church, giving clarity to the structure of the church. Having deep convictions (foundation in scripture) about your work can make your role & responsibilities clearer. Having deep convictions can bring clarity to difficult decisions. Working with a team:

Be teachable, look for answers, try to figure out what you don't know. “Creativity is not about discovery, it's about

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ABOUT MIKE FOSTER

For the past 15 years, Mike has focused his work on helping people flourish in their lives by helping them be passionate about their not-so-perfect stories. Mike is the founder and Chief Chance Officer at People of the Second Chance, a non-profit organization guided by this lofty ideal: that every person on earth deserves a second chance. He is the author of the book People of the Second Chance, as well as the “Freeway” and “Wonderlife” curriculum, helping people find hope, purpose and God's radical grace. He also works with church leaders to teach them how to navigate and walk through life’s messes with their people.

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iTunes - Episode #45: Mike Foster - People of the Second Chance Google Play - Episode #45: Mike Foster - People of the Second Chance

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Mike Foster Twitter Mike Foster Facebook Mike Foster Instagram SecondChance.org Mikefoster.tv

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Wonderlife Curriculum Freeway Curriculum When You Work for God but You Don't Kno

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ABOUT JORDAN WISEMAN

Jordan Wiseman is the Marketing Coordinator for the YouVersion Bible app at Life.Church. He got his start in media & graphic design as a volunteer. He then joined the design team at Life.Church and is now part of the chart-topping YouVersion Bible app team.

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iTunes - Episode #44: Jordan Wiseman- Social Media, Volunteers & Jesus Google Play - Episode #44: Jordan Wiseman- Social Media, Volunteers & Jesus

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Jordan Wiseman Twitter

Jordan Wiseman Facebook

Jordan Wiseman Instagram

Jordan Wiseman Website

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Present Over Perfect by Shauna Niequist Leader Guide for YouVersion Volunteers "When You Work for God but You Don't Know Him"

SOCIAL MEDIA, VOLUNTEERS & JESUS

How to Best Utilize Volunteers:

Screening and training social media volunteers: provide example materials (tweets, Facebook, Instagram, etc.) for volunteers to respond to as training. Utilize community leaders- individuals responsible for on-boarding, training

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ABOUT JOHNIE HAMPTON

Johnie Hampton is the president and CEO of his company, Hampton Creative. His thriving business has grown from a start-up design firm to a full-blown ad agency, currently listed as Tulsa’s #7 fastest growing company in 2016. With over 22 years' experience in the business, Johnie believes in doing “work that matters”, exercising excellence in the work of his company as well as in his personal life and service to the church.

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iTunes - Episode #43: Johnie Hampton - How to Think Like an Owner

Google Play - Episode #43: Johnie Hampton - How to Think Like an Owner

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Twitter: @johniecreative

Facebook: Johnie Hampton

Instagram: @johniecreative

HamptonCreative.com

MENTIONED LINKS Michael Phelps Under Armour Ad COTM Men's Breakfast Podcast

HOW TO THINK LIKE AN OWNER

The Importance of Thinking Like an Owner:

If I owned my own business, how would I want it run? Even if you don't own your own business, thinking like an owner can help you

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Elle grew up in Buffalo, New York and worked for quite awhile in youth ministry.

She has been a part of the Orange Team since 2013. Currently, she is the director of XP3 Middle School Curriculum, the Lead Writer for Lead Small Weekly, a weekly tool to help churches do small groups better, and a co-author of the book Creating a Lead Small Culture, along with Reggie Joiner and Kristen Ivy.

She has launched a resource website called "Stuff You Can Use" and a bi-weekly podcast known as "You Ministry Answers".

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iTunes - Episode #42: Elle Campbell - Creating a Lead Small Culture

Google Play - Episode #42: Elle Campbell - Creating a Lead Small Culture

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Twitter

Facebook

Instagram

Elle's Website

stuffyoucanuse.org

Youth Ministry Answers Podcast

BOOK LINKS

Creating a Lead Small Culture: Make Your Church a Place Where Kids Belong by Reggie Joiner, Kristen Ivy, and Elle Campbell

It's Just a P

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Matt McKee is an experienced entrepreneur as well as a former employee at Fellowship Church in Grapevine, TX. Currently, he serves as the pastor of students at Horizon Community Church in Cincinnati, OH. His latest passion has been helping families understand how to better use technology and establish safeguards for kids in his latest book Parent Chat. Matt is also a Dallas Cowboys and Bengals fan.

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iTunes - Episode #41 Matt McKee - Parenting & Technology

Google Play - Episode #41: Matt McKee - Parenting & Technology

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Matt's Website

LinkedIn

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"The desire for connectivity and constant connection isn’t new. It’s just that technology makes it possible." We have a yearning for connection. Technology gives us the ability to have a constant connection. 3 Paths to Technology: The Path of Acceptance - No matter what new technology comes out we are going to adopt it and accept what is

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Kevin Moore is the founding and senior pastor of THECHURCH at Visilia. He and his wife, Veronica, have four children. They live in Tulare County and can’t imagine ever calling any place else home.

Kevin is a great communicator. He has written five books and absolutely loves presenting Biblical truths in ways that people can understand and apply to their daily life.

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THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY OF CHURCH PLANTING.

Planting Churches vs Sending Shepherds: The goal of every church is to make disciples. If one of your sheep

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Phil is the Creative Arts Pastor at West Ridge Church in Atlanta, GA. He is passionate about creating high-impact experiences that lead people to Jesus Christ.

In this episode, Phil talks specifically about the West Ridge Creative Process and getting your creativity into a weekly rhythm.

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FINDING A WEEKLY RHYTHM FOR YOUR CREATIVE PROCESS

Phil's Role As The Creative Pastor: Focuses on the firs

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Pastor Dustin Woodward is the Lead Student Pastor of Copper Point Church in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Together with his wife, Mandy, they are ministering to over 1,800 students a week through weekly services, satellite campuses, and Bible clubs. Dustin is a gifted communicator and teacher, convicted about speaking the truth as plainly as possible. God has given him a vision and a passion for helping people meet Jesus and each week he shares God’s Word and its practical application in our daily lives.

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LEADING UNDER AUTHORITY

How close should youth pastors stay aligned with what the church is doing not just what they are doing? Stay as close as possible. There needs to be authenticity with what you post on social media. Lead up as much as you expect your leader

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Jordan Boyce is the founder of the Awakening Conference, which was established in 2007. He was a 16-year-old with a vision to gather young people all over from the region of New England. After completing an internship at The City Church in Seattle he returned and took on the position as Youth Director of Awakening Youth, the youth ministry of New Life Worship Center. Attendance at Awakening Youth has tripled since Jordan and his team took over in 2009. Awakening is a leader in creativity and using the power of media to engage young people in an active and exciting church. Jordan and his wife Samantha have a passion to in change the state of Rhode Island, and equip other New England youth ministries to do the same in their region!



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Brad Cooper is the Executive Pastor of Ministries at NewSpring Church in South Carolina. He oversees the Fuse, KidSpring, Next Steps, and Guest Services ministries found on every NewSpring campus and NewSpring College. Brad has a passion for people of all ages and for seeing their lives changed by Jesus Christ. Brad is the primary communicator for Fuse and has a unique ability of connecting with the students of NewSpring Church. Brad has a wife, Cory, and two beautiful daughters, Campbell and Mary Bradford. They enjoy Clemson football and spending time with family and friends.

LISTEN NOW Episode #35: Brad Cooper - 360 Degree Leadership

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360 DEGREE LEADERSHIP

The Most Important Lesson In Leadership. Lead by example. Don't ask things of your people that you wouldn’t do yourself. Leadership start

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In the summer of 2010, Oneka and her husband, Earl, sold their home, packed up their two sons, and moved to Dallas, TX. A short while later, they sat in a living room in Dallas and shared the vision of Shoreline with 17 courageous people. They started with a bible study in a nursing home. The bible study kept growing and they began meeting at the Angelika movie theater. They had their grand opening January 22, 2012 and saw over 500 people in attendance. In 2012, they moved into their current home off of Northwest Highway. God kept sending families, students, single people, and couples to be a part of their new church. Now with over 1,000 people who call Shoreline Dallas "home," they are moving to a new facility off of Garland Road. They are also so excited to announce that in 2016, they will be launching a church in Antigua, Guatemala.

In this episode, Oneka discusses the heart and vision of Sisterhood, the women’s ministry of Shoreline, Dallas, a ministry that believes in the gather

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While working in a nightclub as a rave-dj, Peter challenged the God of the Universe to “reveal himself” in an unmistakable way. Only seconds later, God responded to him with a jaw-dropping Gospel encounter that shook the foundation of his life. Since converting to Christianity on the spot, Peter has traveled the world, sharing his radical story and calling others to experience the same joy and power. Within a few short years, Peter was sucked into full-time ministry. After pastoring in Wisconsin for a decade, Peter relocated to Minneapolis, Minnesota in 2004 to plant an arts-oriented church called Substance. Within a few short years, Substance became one of the fastest growing and most youthful multi-site megachurches in the United States. Peter also speaks to church planters and pastors all over the globe as he serves on the lead team of the Association of Related Churches (ARC). Peter released his first national book in 2012 with Influence Resources called Pharisectomy: how to remove

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Lee Cockerell is the former Executive Vice President of Operations for the Walt Disney World® Resort. As the Senior Operating Executive for ten years, Lee led a team of 40,000 Cast Members and was responsible for the operations of 20 resort hotels, 4 theme parks, 2 water parks, a shopping & entertainment village and the ESPN sports and recreation complex in addition to the ancillary operations which supported the number one vacation destination in the world.

One of Lee's major and lasting legacies was the creation of the Disney Great Leader Strategies which was used to train and develop the 7000 leaders at Walt Disney World. Lee has held various executive positions in the hospitality and entertainment business with Hilton Hotels for 8 years and the Marriott Corporation for 17 years before joining Disney in 1990 to open the Disneyland Paris project.

In this episode, Lee discusses his book Time Management Magic.

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Beth Vaughn was born and raised in Oklahoma. After attending the University of Oklahoma (Go Sooners!), she accepted a position at Life.Church as a filmmaker in 2006. Currently, she is the Central Group Leader of Creative Media at Life.Church.

In this episode, Beth discusses the Creative Axioms of Life.Church.

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Life.Church Creative Media Team

TEAM STRUCTURE - 5 Areas

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VOLUNTEER CREATIVE TEAM

They are currently working on developing a volunteer creative team. It is important to equip volunteers but also teach them the heart and the vision of what the churc

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Brad Lomenick led and directed a movement of young leaders called Catalyst for twelve years. He has since moved into a strategic advisor role with Catalyst, along with several other organizations.

Over the last fifteen years, he has spent a significant amount of time convening leaders. Prior to running Catalyst, he spent five years involved in the growth of the nationally acclaimed Life@Work Magazine and did management consulting with Cornerstone Group. Before that, after graduating from the University of Oklahoma, he rode horses for a living on a ranch in the Colorado mountains for several years.

He writes about leadership, the next generation, creativity, innovation, social media, teamwork, personal growth, generational issues, execution, and a few other topics.

Brad loves Oklahoma Sooners’ football and considers himself a strong candidate for the senior golf tour at some point.

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At age 20, Pastor Willie George began an outreach with Sunday School buses and quickly learned how to hold the attention of rowdy, unchurched kids. In the decade that followed, his groundbreaking techniques brought him to national prominence as an authority on children's ministry. In 1982, he created a wildly successful, nationally broadcast kid's television program, The Gospel Bill Show.

In spite of his success as a traveling minister, he longed to build a local church where youth and children's ministries would be showcased. Since 1987, Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK has been a leader in effective ministry for children and teenagers, with outreaches like Dry Gulch, U.S.A. and Oneighty.

Today, the effectiveness of his vision is revealed in the amazing second-generation leadership team at Church on the Move. The same communicative skills that marked Pastor Willie George as a children's minister have positioned him as the Senior Pastor of one of America's most innovative churches.

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In 2008, Josh launched Next Level Church in New England with a desire to be relevant, loving, and life-giving. He claims to have made tons of mistakes and have been making it up as he goes, trusting God for wisdom beyond my years and experience. Today Next Level Church has 7 locations throughout the Northeast in 4 different states with thousands of people each weekend in attendance, and best of all, thousands of people have said, "Yes" to a relationship with Jesus.

God-willing, NLC will launch dozens of relevant, loving, and life-giving locations all over America and beyond. As people look at what God is doing at NLC, my hope is that they will be amazed by God because clearly only God could write this story!

Josh is married to his best friend and the love of his life, Jennifer. They have two boys named Malachi and Nehemiah.

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Chad Veach is one of the nations most sought after preacher and leadership teacher. In his former church, he led a youth and young adult ministry that saw over 1000 young people in attendance weekly. Chad and his wife, Julia, currently pastor Zoe Church in Los Angeles, CA. They have three children, Georgia, Winston, and Maverick. In this episode, Chad shares the reason and heart behind his new book Unreasonable Hope.

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UNREASONABLE HOPE:

At four months old, Chad's daughter, Georgia, was diagnosed with “Smooth Brain" - a rare brain disorder which affects the development of the brain folds. In this book, Chad shares the journey to hope he and his wife have experienced. Unreasonable Hope is about finding faith in a God who can bring purpose to your pain.

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Born and raised in Kentucky, Greg grew up in a Christian home. After rededicating his life to Christ at the age of 17, he felt a call to ministry. He began volunteering at his home church and, in 1989, became the Youth and Children’s Pastor, eventually serving as the Associate Pastor. He and his family moved to Tulsa in 2003 to become part of the Pastoral team of Church On The Move. He now serves as the Family Ministries Director, which includes the kid's ministry (Kids on the Move) and the student ministry (Oneighty), as well as Dry Gulch, USA and Lincoln Christian School. He also oversees the Security teams for all the COTM campuses. Greg and his wife, Polly, have been married for over 25 years and have three children, one daughter–in-law, and a grandson on the way. He loves the New York Yankees and is a devout follower of Kentucky basketball. In this episode, Greg shares the key to exercising one's growth in leadership properly, what he refers to as "coaching the coaches."

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As a 13 year old, Jason knew he was called to be a pastor. But his journey to lead Vibrant Church started with Jason serving our country in the United States Marine Corps., then attending seminary and training under one of the country’s most respected pastors, Pastor Tommy Barnett.

Pastor Jason met his beautiful wife, Rachael, while serving in ministry in Phoenix. They have spent over a decade in ministry together and have been blessed with three amazing kids: Ava, Nathan, and Trace.

Ministry runs in Jason’s blood. His father, Ron Delgado, founded Evangel Church, now Vibrant Church, and faithfully served for over 20 years before Jason and Rachael returned to Columbus to begin a succession transition with his father. The church was positioned to build upon an incredible foundation of unity, passion and progression to reach the next generation for Christ. In 2013, Pastor Jason and Rachael officially became the Lead Pastors of Vibrant Church.

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Pastor Robert and his family have been missionaries in Peru for over twenty years. He first started out ministering in the hot jungles, but eventually moved to Lima, the capital of Peru, to minister to youth. With a handful of young but excited believers, he started a church, and now Camino de Vida is growing fast. Not only that, but Pastor Robert is involved in a nationwide church planting movement, starting Camino de Vida churches all across the country. His desire, along with his wife Karen and his children, is to show God’s love in a tangible way, through humanitarian aid and outreach projects through an organization called Life Missions.

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Pace Hartfield has given his life to seeing people step into their full potential in Christ in a diverse variety of settings that have uniquely prepared him to start and pastor One Place Church.

Pace is known for his passion for his family, fishing, great coffee, and for crafting environments that creatively communicate the life found in Jesus.

Pace and his wife, Sarah, have been married for 17 years and live in Coeur d’ Alene, Idaho with their four kids, Caiden (13), Grayson (10), Addison (8), and Sarah Grace (2), and as a family they are loving life in the Great Northwest!

BIG Church to Start-Up Church

From Creative Director to Senior Pastor: -There is a big difference in carrying out a vision than being a culture that supports a vision. -You are borrowing momentum when you are under another leader. -When YOU are the leader, YOU have to create buy in. YOU have to cast a compelling vision. -Carrying someone else’s vision is different than carrying your own. - it weighs different.

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Daniel Connell is a production designer with a focus on live events. His work includes event design and execution, and system design for both permanent and mobile applications. Daniel has worked in the concert, theater, television, and house of worship markets.

Daniel believes lighting should be an extension of your content. It should amplify feeling and emotion. It should pull your audience in so that they are no longer just spectators, but participants.

Daniel lives in Alabama with his wife Cassie and two sons.

For booking info, go to danielconnell.com.

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Larry Hubatka, the Creative Pastor of Elevation Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, oversees everything you see at Elevation from graphics to print to video. On this episode, Larry pulls back the curtain on how the Elevation creative team is structured to serve the entire church. From kids and youth, to all of their campuses, we'll see how they found a way to win.

Larry and his wife Kelly have been married over a decade and a half. Additionally they have four girls: Riley, Lily, Audrey and Lucy.

Kelly and Larry moved to Charlotte in August 2005 from Portland, Oregon for a job at a local Christian TV station. They started attending Elevation in December of 2005 before they launched their first public service. Larry and Kelly served in many different volunteer roles before Larry officially came on staff in October 2007.

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Grant Pankratz is the Lead Pastor of Church of the Harvest in Oklahoma City, OK. Additionally, he's the Youth America pastor. Grant oversees the youth ministry of all 5 of the church's campuses. As if that's not enough responsibility, he also has the oversight of the Youth America College and camp. Grant is madly in love with Jesus, his wife, Monica and two kids Naomi and Boston.

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Andrew serves as the Production Manager at Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK. He has 25 years of experience in the touring world with a diverse range of entertainers which has brought a unique perspective to his position. Although a bit unorthodox in approach, his experience and creative problem-solving have helped COTM redesign the production and implementation of their live services and events. Follow Andrew on twitter @stone_rocks

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Dino Rizzo serves as the Executive Director of ARC (Association of Related Churches), an organization he co-founded which has planted over 500 churches across the USA.

He is also the author of the book Servolution. In 1992, Dino and his wife DeLynn founded Healing Place Church in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, a church they pastored for twenty years. Today, Dino also serves as an Associate Pastor at Church of the Highlands in Birmingham.

Dino and DeLynn have three incredible children.

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In this bonus episode, Jason Laird explains what an average week looks like for him. How he manages his time while overseeing 5 locations as well as traveling and speaking. Jason Laird is the Executive Student Pastor at Gateway Church in Dallas, TX. As of the launch of this podcast, he oversees 5 campuses in the student ministry. Every year Jason and the Gateway students team hosts a student conference that brings in 3,000+ students as well as leaders from all over!

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Jason Laird is the Executive Student Pastor at Gateway Church in Dallas, TX. As of the launch of this podcast, he oversees 5 campuses in the student ministry. Every year Jason and the Gateway students team hosts a student conference that brings in 3,000+ students as well as leaders from all over! Jason talks with us about building an effective student ministry.

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Carey is the lead and founding pastor of Connexus Church and has been serving in ministry since 1995. He is the primary communicator on Sunday mornings and is passionate about leading people into a relationship with Christ. He is the author of Leading Change Without Losing It, blogs regularly for church leaders around the world, and hosts the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast available on iTunes. He and his wife, Toni, live north of Barrie with their two sons. You will hear Carey say that his family outshines him in skiing, mountain biking, hiking, water skiing and more, but he does everything he can to keep up with them! Make sure to check out his latest book Lasting Impacting at lastingimpactbook.com.

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Carey is the lead and founding pastor of Connexus Church and has been serving in ministry since 1995. He is the primary communicator on Sunday mornings and is passionate about leading people into a relationship with Christ. He is the author of Leading Change Without Losing It, blogs regularly for church leaders around the world, and hosts the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast available on iTunes. He and his wife, Toni, live north of Barrie with their two sons. You will hear Carey say that his family outshines him in skiing, mountain biking, hiking, water skiing and more, but he does everything he can to keep up with them! Make sure to check out his latest book Lasting Impacting at lastingimpactbook.com.

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Clay is the author of 4 books, the co-founder of 5 humans kids and the founder of the online business education platform which trains thousands of business people in 41 countries (in which he is a partner of NBA Hall of Fame Basketball Hall of Fame Member, David Robinson).

He is an award-winning speaker, contributing writer for Entrepreneur Magazine, the former United States Small Business Administration Entrepreneur and the speaker that Yahoo! Finance has described as the "Jim Carey of entrepreneurs. His energy is infectious, his smile all goofball and his honesty is disarming."

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Frank Bealer joins us on the Creative Sheep Podcast to talk about creating an effective small group culture. Frank is the Family Ministries Pastor of Elevation Church in North Carolina. Check him out on social media @fbealer. Frank is married to the lovely Jessica Bealer. They have 3 kids and are about to adopt a 4th.

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Joe Sangl is the author of the book, "I was broke, now I'm not. How my family won with money." Joe went through an amazing financial journey that included paying off $40,000 of debt in fourteen months! Joe now travels and speaks on the subject of money while running the company InJoy that he acquired from John Maxwell. Joe talks with us about personal finance and the importance of having a plan.

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Kirby Andersen is a retired pastor of 35 years. He has spent 19 years teaching on time management and finances, as well as the last 5 years running Dry Gulch USA, the summer camp of Church on the Move and home of the Christmas Train. On this episode we discuss time management and putting together an action plan for who we want to become.

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Tom Mullins is the founding Pastor of Christ Fellowship Church in Palm Beach, FL. Tom is a national champion football coach turned pastor. He started Christ Fellowship in 1984 and it has grown to see well over 30,000 people at their several locations as well as 25,000+ that tune in online. Tom has since passed the leadership baton to his son Todd who now runs the church. On this episode we discuss leadership as well as the transition to the next leader.

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Stephen Brewster is the Creative Arts Pastor at Cross Point Church in Nashville, TV. Stephen loves encouraging people to be brave enough to be their creative best. He joins us on this episode of the Creative Sheep podcast to talk about being a better creative leader. And he has a few ideas, he's currently leading a team of 450 volunteers.

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Andy Chrisman spent many years with the group 4him. Since 2005, he's been the worship pastor at Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK. With 25 years in the music industry, he's now dedicated to raising up the next generation of worship leader. He joins us on this episode of the Creative Sheep podcast to talk about being a better worship leader. The Creative Sheep podcast is a conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Carlos Whittaker travels the world speaking, singing and writing books. He's probably most wildly known for his hatred of meatloaf. He joins us on this episode of the Creative Sheep podcast to talk social media in the church. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Joe McGee travels the world speaking on families. He joins us on this episode of the Creative Sheep podcast to talk family, business, & growth. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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This is part two of our interview with Pastor Whitney George, the executive pastor of Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK shares some of his ministry know-how on this edition of the Creative Sheep podcast. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Pastor Whitney George, the executive pastor of Church on the Move in Tulsa, OK shares some of his ministry know-how on this edition of the Creative Sheep podcast. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire church leaders to get better in all aspects of ministry.

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Michael E. Gerber is the author of the E-Myth series. The E-Myth book has been noted as the single most influential business book of all time by the Wall Street Journal. Michael coined the phrase, "Go to work on your business, not in your business." The Creative Sheep podcast is a conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Pastor Shannon O'Dell, the senior pastor of Brand New Church in Bergman, AR share some of his ministry know-how on this edition of the Creative Sheep podcast. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Lee Cockerell, the former Executive Vice President of Operations of Walt Disney World joins us for part 2 of his interview for the Creative Sheep podcast. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.

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Lee Cockerell, the former Executive Vice President of Operations of Walt Disney World joins us on the debut episode of the Creative Sheep podcast. A conversation where we talk to people who are good at what they do to inspire leaders to get better.