Thriving in Ministry: Recent Episodes
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Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton host the The Thriving in Ministry podcast to encourage pastors in their church ministry. We address how church leaders can thrive in their calling by creating margin, staying healthy, and leading effectively in their church and family. We believe you don't have to do ministry alone. It is why we will have authentic conversations with other pastors and church leaders on the Thriving in Ministry podcast. Brought to you by DailyPastor.com and Talanton Church Services.
According to a recent Lifeway Research study, 51% of pastors and church leaders in 2023 said they had seriously considered leaving their congregations, compared with only 21% in 2021. What does that mean? Church leaders are facing challenges! We discuss five of them in this episode including pastoral exhaustion, cultures that limit growth, and others. We also found helpful information in this article by Anthony Hilder. And don't forget to email phil@talantonservices.com for your free Talanton Mug! It's awesome!
Does your church stream any services other than Sunday morning? Matt has decided to start streaming his Wednesday Youth services. What do you think? What are the challenges and benefits?
Join Kyle, Phil, and Matt in a lively discussion about the unintended consequences of online church. We love online church; we need online church; but we need to do it better! One of the unintended consequences of the online paradigm is the difficulty in maintaining good connection, communication, and caring in regards to our online attenders. In other words--community! We want to help you find the best ways to do online church and we also need you to join the conversation, so please shoot us a DM, email, or comment. Thanks for joining us on the Thriving In Ministry Podcast!
Can we really engage in worship in an online service? Should Churches include their Praise and Worship sets as a part of their livestreams at all? If members only engage online, what are they missing in the area of worship? Kyle, Matt, & Phil discuss these questions and others in this episode. Join the conversation!
This week, we're beginning a mini-season featuring a few episodes in which we talk about the possible unintended consequences of online church. We start with giving and ask this compelling question: Is online giving robbing you of the opportunity to disciple your kids and new members in the area of giving? Are there other unintended consequences, and what do we do about them? Join the conversation!
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, we talk about an issue close to the heart of every church leader—volunteers. We love them. Especially the most faithful ones. But if we're not careful, that faithfulness can turn to exhaustion, discouragement, and even disillusionment. How can we help them keep from getting burned out? Kyle Willis, Matt Dotson, and Phil Blount discuss this outstanding article from Churchtrac.com and speak from their own experience as well. Join the conversation!
Join us for the epic journey of 2024. Kyle, Matt & Phil have some fun talking New Year's resolutions and some other nonsense, but mostly give some pointed advice on 7 things to NOT do this year in your church. Join the conversation!
In this special episode, we take a quick break from our usual format and just hang out and talk all things Christmas! Join us as we discuss everything from Advent calendars to food to Santa Clause, i.e., does one of our staff still believe? We had a blast recording it; we hope you enjoy listening! Merry Christmas!
In our second episode of this new season and new chapter of TIM, Kyle Willis, Matt Dotson, and Phil Blount explore the question, "Is your church successful?" What does success mean for a church? Is it numbers only, or do numbers matter at all? Is it discipleship, spiritual growth, financial stability, or simply a matter of obedience to a mission? We explore these and other ideas, and we hope to hear your comments and questions as well! Join the conversation!
Is the Church a business? How should it be run in a businesslike manner--if at all? Join the Conversation as Kyle introduces his new podcast cohosts Matt Dotson and Phil Blount!
Kyle and Dace talk about the past and the future for their personal and professional lives as well as the TIM Podcast. Exciting things are happening!
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Jeremy Freeman, and his son Caleb, on finding hope during catastrophe.
Jeremy Freeman is the Pastor of First Baptist Church Newcastle. Jeremy and his wife Emily have 7 children, including Trey who went home to be with the Lord as a 7 year old in September 2013. Jeremy completed his undergraduate at the Oklahoma Baptist University and received his Master of Divinity degree from Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in 2008. Outside of pastoring and spending time with his family, Jeremy enjoys reading, watching sports, and studying God’s Word. Jeremy Freeman is the author of the new book which releases on October 18th, entitled #butGod: The Power of Hope When Catastrophe Crashes In.
Websites and Other LinksOrder #butGod Book by Jeremy FreemanFBC Newcastle
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Matt and Allison Willis on Making Disciples, using the new MasterLife Together material.
Matt Willis | Allison Willis Bio
Matt and Allison Willis are the authors of the new book MasterLife Together, which releases October 3rd through Lifeway. MasterLife Together is an updated edition of MasterLife which has sold hundreds of thousands of copies and become some of the most frequently used discipleship materials over the last 40 years.
Currently at Calvary Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, Matt Willis is the Associate Pastor of Missions and Evangelism. Matt has a master’s of divinity from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and also co-authored Learning to Soar: How to Grow Through Transitions and Trials.
Allison is a registered dietitian with a master’s degree in dietetics and is a nutrition counselor. Allison edited a simplified version of Be Transformed: Discovering Biblical Solutions to Life’s Problems, which she helped translate into South Asian languages and used to train women over- seas.
Matt and Allison Willis met each other in college on an international mission trip over 20 years ago. While serving the Lord together is how their relation- ship began, they went on to serve as missionaries with the International Mission Board for 7 years in South Asia.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, and a pastor from Central Texas is out on sabbatical.
Websites and Other LinksMasterLife Together Discipleship CurriculumI Aim to Be That Man: Avery Willis Jr. Biography
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Is the Church today a phenomenal place to work? How does working for your church compare to elite companies? How should a pastor encourage and lead church staff to fulfill your mission? On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Dr. Michael Steiner on how you can improve your church’s work week culture.
Dr. Michael Steiner Bio
Dr. Michael Steiner is the Vice President of Innovation and Communication at Southeastern University in Florida. Michael has a PhD in Organizational Psychology and is on a mission to help pastors make churches incredible places to work. He and his wife have 2 kids and while not pastoring, Michael enjoys encouraging church leaders through his TikTok channel @drmichaelsteiner.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, and a pastor from Central Texas is out on sabbatical.
Notable Quotable:
- "The New Testament does not prescribe any particular structure of Church governance. What it describes is a set of gifts that the Holy Spirit has moved upon the Church and has anointed people to do certain works at specific times. It describes what they could do, but it doesn't prescribe." (15:01)
- A Church Government Revolution - Peter Haas (17:22)
- "Every organization on the planet is trying to manufacture purpose. (Businesses) are spending millions of dollars per year in their HR department to manipulate and convince their employees that they are working on a cause greater than themselves. You as the Church already have that naturally; you don't need to make that up. Think about how radical that is. You are a part of growing and building and being an essential worker in the Kingdom of God." (19:33)
- The Living Reminder - Henri Nouwen (23:40)
- "The ultimate move of the Enemy is not to get you to hate God or hate the faith... the move of the Enemy is to get you to forget why you started in the first place." (23:45)
- "The word decide means to "cut away". So when you decide on a strategy that means you are cutting away a bunch of things that you could do, so that you can do the one thing that you were called to do. That is where you have to get as a Church." (28:28)
- Measure What Matters - John Doerr (30:33)
- OKR System - Objective and Key Results
- Neurobiology of Leadership: "Making decisions is the number one calorie activity in your body. There is nothing that burns calories more than making decisions. The prefrontal cortex accounts for 20% of all calories burned in a day. Making decisions takes a ton of power. Your brain will do whatever it can to avoid making a decision. That is why we created leaders." (35:14)
- How does a new person become adjusted into an organization? (42:11)
- Role Clarity - Does a person understand what they are doing and why they are doing it?
- Self-Efficacy - Do they have the confidence they can accomplish the thing they are supposed to be doing?
- Acceptance - Are they a part of a web where they feel valued and they value that web in return?
Websites and Other LinksDr. Michael Steiner TikTok @drmichaelsteiner
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On this episode of the Thriving In Ministry podcast, we interview Craig T. Owens about the urgency of Sabbath and how it should be a verb in every pastor and church leader's life.
Craig T. Owens BioCraig T. Owens is the Pastor of Calvary Assemblies of God Church in Cedar Springs, Michigan. Craig graduated from Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where he met his wife Betsy over 35 years ago. In addition to being a pastor, he co-hosts “The Greg and Craig Show” Maximize Leadership podcast and is the author of the new book, Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics That Really Matter, which released in September 2021.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and a pastor from central Texas, is out on sabbatical.
Pastor Craig T. Owens welcome back to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Websites and Other Links
Shepherd Leadership Book - AmazonCraig T. Owens - Website
Craig T. Owens - Twitter
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While the Southern Baptist Convention continues to lament the Guidepost report on sexual abuse, there were some critical steps missed over the last few years.
- How did the SBC miss with the Predator Database?
- What can a Predator Database tell us about the movement of abusers within the Church?
- How can the Church use data and technology to recognize potential abusers in their report?
- Why has it taken so long to put reforms in place?
These are some of the questions we attempt to answer in this week's episode of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast. I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a SBC pastor from Central Texas.
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It's been several weeks since we have released a new episode, so welcome back to the Thriving in Ministry Podcast. Join us this week as Kyle Willis and Dr. Dace Clifton talk about some church trends, current events, and catch up with one another on a personal level.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we hear from Pastor Caleb Moore on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively in ministry.
Caleb Moore BioCaleb Moore is the Pastor of Catoosa First in Catoosa, Oklahoma. Caleb Moore is also the author of The Disappearing Garden: How to live in Babylon when you were made for Eden. Caleb and his wife Adrian have three boys and while not pastoring, Caleb enjoys hosting the Dog Backwards Podcast, which focus on Christian apologetics.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Central Texas.
I am Kyle Willis of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com will not be joining us this week. Pastor Caleb Moore welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the Day"and he went outside and wept bitterly." - Luke 22:62
Websites and Other LinksCaleb Moore Website The Disappearing Garden BookDog Backwards Podcast
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we hear from Pastor Andrew Franklin and how the church can more clearly understand sexuality and Christianity.
Andrew Franklin BioPastor Andrew Franklin is the Lead Pastor of Mosaic Community Church in Eastside Seattle, Washington. Andrew was born and raised in Oklahoma City and graduated from the University of Oklahoma before moving to New York City to pursue a Broadway career. Andrew Franklin is the author of Created for Love, about reclaiming Jesus's Vision for Sexuality, Gender & Relationships. Andrew and his wife, Jordyn, have been married for eight years and have four kids. Andrew enjoys theatre, literature, and jazz music.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas. Pastor Andrew Franklin welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the Day"and to know this love that surpasses knowledge - that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God." - Ephesians 3:19
Websites and Other LinksCreated For Love Book - Andrew FranklinAndrew Franklin - Mosaic Family Church Seattle
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Phillip Koo Bio
Dr. Phillip Koo is the Leadership Residency Director at Christ Chapel Bible Church in Fort, Worth, Texas. On today's episode Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com, talk with Phillip Koo about creating margin, avoiding burnout, and church leadership, especially as it relates to Seminary students or pastors in a residency program.
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Randy Kendrix Bio
Randy Kendrix is the Pastor of First Baptist Church Madill, Oklahoma. He has served at churches in Oklahoma, Texas and Louisiana and as an Area Representative with the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Randy earned his Master of Arts and Doctor of Educational Ministry degrees from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He has been married to his wife, Christy, for 28 years, and they have two sons. Randy enjoys bicycling, hunting, triathlons, waterskiing and scuba diving.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
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Dr. Danny Forshee Bio
Dr. Danny Forshee serves as the Lead Pastor at Great Hills Baptist Church in Austin, Texas. Danny Forshee is the President of the Danny Forshee Evangelistic Association and has written three books entitled For the One, Modern Family Vintage Values, and Jesus and the Church. He writes a daily devotional, Danny’s Daily Devotions, and a weekly podcast, REvangelical: Rethinking Christian Living.
Danny holds a Ph.D. degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth. Danny and his wife, Ashley, have been married for over 35 years and three grown children and one granddaughter.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
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Is someone in your congregation struggling with depression or having suicidal thoughts? The answer is almost always "yes". Dr. Matthew Sleeth explains the impact of mental health on pastors and challenges us to be more proactive from the pulpit on addressing the current suicide crises.
NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION LIFELINE: 800-273-8255https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ Three questions to ask when faced with a mental health crises:
1) Are you thinking of harming yourself?
2) Do you have a plan?
3) Do you have the means?
Dr. Matthew Sleeth BioDr. Matthew Sleeth is a former emergency room physician, who resigned his medical position to write, teach, and preach about the connections between faith and health. Currently the Executive Director of Blessed Earth, Dr. Sleeth has spoken at over 1,000 churches and events throughout the country, including serving as a monthly guest preacher at the Washington National Cathedral. Recognized by Newsweek as one of the nation’s most influential Christian leaders, Dr. Matthew Sleeth is the author of numerous articles and books, including 24/6 and his newest book, Hope Always: How to be a Force for Life in a Culture of Suicide. Dr. Sleeth and his wife have been married for 40 years and now live in Lexington, Kentucky.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Websites and Other LinksHope Always Book | Dr. Matthew SleethDr. Matthew Sleeth Website24/6 Book | Dr. Matthew Sleeth
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Are you in need of rest heading into 2022? Dr. Matthew Sleeth shares the benefits of living grounded by the Sabbath will lead to a more fulfilling life and ministry.
Dr. Matthew Sleeth BioDr. Matthew Sleeth is a former emergency room physician, who resigned his medical position to write, teach, and preach about the connections between faith and health. Currently the Executive Director of Blessed Earth, Dr. Sleeth has spoken at over 1,000 churches and events throughout the country, including serving as a monthly guest preacher at the Washington National Cathedral. Recognized by Newsweek as one of the nation’s most influential Christian leaders, Dr. Matthew Sleeth is the author of numerous articles and books, including 24/6 and his newest book, Hope Always: How to be a Force for Life in a Culture of Suicide. Dr. Sleeth and his wife have been married for 40 years and now live in Lexington, Kentucky.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Websites and Other LinksDr. Matthew Sleeth Website24/6 Book | Dr. Matthew SleethHope Always Book | Dr. Matthew Sleeth
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Do you want free publicity for your church or ministry? If so, you probably want to avoid this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast. Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss five important steps that every pastor and church leader should take to avoid a scandal.
1) Avoid what you don't want to have to explain
2) Submit your life to others.
3) Prioritize your spouse
4) Deal with your own sin first
5) Know your legal responsibilities
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Dace Clifton shares 10 lessons he has learned from pastoring the same church for the last decade. While these lessons may not apply to every pastor, these are some routines and attitudes that has been helpful for Dace over the last ten years.
- Taking more times off
- Getting into the office earlier
- Dating my wife during the week
- Prayer walking downtown
- Using more visual illustrations, tools, and videos in preaching
- Doing what I love with my men
- Delegating more responsibility
- Reading through the Bible in 30 days
- Have more fun
- Trying to listen more, but caring less
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Drew Dabbs on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Drew Dabbs BioDr. Drew Dabbs is the pastor of First Baptist Church, Hamilton, Texas. Originally from Meridian, Mississippi, Drew completed his undergraduate work in Christian Studies at Mississippi College, and later attended Truett Seminary, where he completed his Master of Divinity (and Doctor of Ministry). Drew has been a pastor for over 17 years and before that a youth minster for 3 years. Drew and his wife Emily have four children and when not leading his church, Drew enjoys spending time with his kids and their hobbies.
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview the Reverend Richard Ray on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Guest Bio
Reverend Richard Ray is the current Director of Missions for Tri-Rivers Baptist Area, a network of 80+ churches in central Texas. Richard is a former Air Force veteran and pastor. Under Richard's leadership, Tri-Rivers purchases a retreat center for area churches, hosting a series of student camps, church trainings, and conferences which has further accelerated the growth of Tri-Rivers. He has also set up a free shelter for domestic abuse survivors. Richard serves as a coach, encourager, and friend to all of the pastors in his association.
Websites and Other LinksRev. Richard Ray
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On this episode of the Thriving In Ministry podcast, we interview Dr. Anthony Svajda on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively. Anthony uses a scuba-diving analogy to explain the different pressures many church leaders can face while pastoring.
Anthony Svajda BioDr. Anthony Svajda is the Lead Pastor of Harvey Baptist Church in Stephenville, Texas. A graduate of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Anthony has held a number of roles in churches throughout Texas. Anthony and his wife Kristen have two children and while not leading his church, he enjoys cycling through Central Texas.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Pastor Anthony Svajda welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the DayPhilippians 1:6
"And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ."
Websites and Other Links
The Church is Not Dead and We are Not Done Book - Amazon Anthony Svajda - Website
Anthony Svajda - Twitter
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On this episode of the Thriving In Ministry podcast, we interview Craig T. Owens about his new book Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics That Really Matter. If you want to be entered to win a FREE autographed copy of his book, share this episode on social media using the hashtag #ShepherdLeadershipBook and send a screenshot to thedailypastor@gmail.com to enter.
Notable Quotable"Only secure people can serve. Insecure people do not like to put themselves in a servant's posture because they think that people are looking down on them or people are going to treat them poorly."
"You cannot give to others what you do not possess yourself. If you want a healthy flock, you as the shepherd leader must get healthy first."
Craig T. Owens BioCraig T. Owens is the Pastor of Calvary Assemblies of God Church in Cedar Springs, Michigan. Craig graduated from Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where he met his wife Betsy over 35 years ago. In addition to being a pastor, he co-hosts “The Greg and Craig Show” Maximize Leadership podcast and is the author of the new book, Shepherd Leadership: The Metrics That Really Matter, which released yesterday September 28th, 2021.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Pastor Craig T. Owens welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the DayJohn 13: 3-5
"Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; so he got up from the meal, took off his outer clothing, and wrapped a towel around his waist. After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples' feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him."
Websites and Other Links
Shepherd Leadership Book - AmazonCraig T. Owens - Website
Craig T. Owens - Twitter
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On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Mike Fritscher on how to live a marriage that will leave a legacy.
Pastor BioMike Fritscher is the pastor of Cottonwood. Mike has been the pastor of Cottonwood since 1986. Under his leadership Cottonwood has grow from a small rural church to a dynamic community of faith impacting the local community and world.
Verse of the DayEphesians 5: 25-30 (ESV) - "Husbands, love your wive, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same way husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the church, because we are members of his body."
Notable Quotable"I wanted to be the same guy in the parsonage, as I was in the pulpitl" - Mike Fritscher
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Mark Dance on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively in ministry.
Notable Quotable"Pastors belong to the only profession that requires you to win both at work and at home."
"Every pastor gets tired; every pastor gets burned out. Everybody gets depressed to a point, but when you stay there for more than a couple weeks, then you have a problem."
Dr. Mark Dance BioMark Dance is the Director of Pastoral Development for Oklahoma Baptists, as well as the Executive Director of Care4Pastors. Mark Dance previously served as a senior pastor for 28 years before becoming an associate vice president at LifeWay in 2014. Mark studied at Howard Payne University, and both Southwestern and Southern Baptist Theological Seminaries and currently resides in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Mark and his wife Janet have two adult children and when not encouraging pastors, Mark enjoys writing, traveling, and hunting.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Pastor Mark Dance welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the Day1 Timothy 4:16
"Keep a close watch on yourself and on the teaching. Persist in this, for by so doing you will save both yourself and your hearers."
Websites and Other Links
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Todd Gray on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively in ministry.
Dr. Todd Gray Bio
Dr. Todd Gray is the Pastor of Tabernacle Baptist Church in Ennis, Texas. Todd received his Doctorate in Preaching from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and prior to pastoring Tabernacle, Todd served as a Captain in the United States Air Force. Todd and his wife Tammy have three children. When not spending time with his family, Todd enjoys spending time in the great outdoors.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always Dr. Dace Clifton, from DailyPastor.com and also a pastor from Texas.
Pastor Todd Gray welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the DayEcclesiastes 4:12
"Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken."
Colossians 3:23
"Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters."
Websites and Other Links
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What are some of the common issues that are easy to ignore, but need your urgent? Especially as a pastor of a new church, you will want to be aware and be purposeful about these 5 issues. Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about the 5 Issues New Pastors Cannot Ignore.
1. A Changing Community
2. Outdated Facilities
3. Lack of Friendship, Fun, and Fellowship
4. Missional Drift
5. Burned-Out Staff
What are the key components that every pastor must have in their ministry tool bag? On this week's episode of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss five key disciplines and practices every ministry leader needs. These are practices every leader, regardless of the size of ministry or years of service, should embrace to ensure years of faithful and effective ministry.
1. Mentor Relationship
2. Process to Stay Fresh
3. Accountability Measures
4. Group of Friends
5. Plan for Rest
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On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss the phrase, "Pastor, we have a problem." Many pastors and church leaders have been caught off guard by church members or other leaders with an "urgent" crises. How we respond to them can either lead to encouragement and growth or an emotional response in the moment. Join us this week as Dace and Kyle discuss the best and worst responses to some of the common phrases pastors love to hear.
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On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we share 21 scriptures to encourage pastors and church leaders.
Matthew 6:33 "Seek the Kingdom of God[a] above all else, and live righteously, and he will give you everything you need."
Ecclesiastes 9:10 "Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom."
Psalm 49:15 "But as for me, God will redeem my life. He will snatch me from the power of the grave."
Proverbs 15:22 "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed."
Proverbs 29:11 "Fools vent their anger, but the wise quietly hold it back."
Philippians 1:6 "Being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus."
Proverbs 31:17 "She is energetic and strong, a hard worker."
Matthew 11:28-30 "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
1 Peter 5:7-8 "Give all your worries and cares to God, for he cares about you. Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour."
Galatians 6:9 "Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up."
1 Timothy 4:8 "Physical training is good, but training for godliness is much better, promising benefits in this life and in the life to come.”
Mark 6:31-32 Then, because so many people were coming and going that they did not even have a chance to eat, he said to them, “Come with me by yourselves to a quiet place and get some rest.” So they went away by themselves in a boat to a solitary place.
Jeremiah 33:6 “Nevertheless, the time will come when I will heal Jerusalem’s wounds and give it prosperity and true peace."
Isaiah 40:28-31 "Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak.Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint."
Romans 12:14-18
Matthew 20:26-28 "Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be your slave —just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Isaiah 26:3 "You will keep in perfect peace all who trust in you, all whose thoughts are fixed on you!"
Luke 12:48 "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."
John 16:33 "I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.”
Acts 20:28 " Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood."
Psalm 112:7 "They do not fear bad news; they confidently trust the Lord to care for them."
Daily Pastor
Are you thinking about how to pay your church staff and pastors in 2022? With the unknown inflation and the continued demands placed on pastors, this episode of the Thriving in Ministry is a starting point for what personnel salaries may look like for you and your church.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss the who, what, when, and how for evaluating pay in the upcoming year. Join us for this episode and share it with your church leadership team as you begin your church budget planning!
LinksDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Music by:
Sow and Tether
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Scott Weatherford on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Scott Weatherford BioScott Weatherford is the pastor of First Baptist Church in Wimberly, Texas and is passionate about helping pastors overcome their biggest challenges and grow healthy churches. His experience leading church plants, mega-churches, and established churches give him a deep empathy for a range of pastoral challenges, but Scott is deeply committed to the local church. He has helped to launch almost 50 churches in North America and around the world. Scott is married to his bride of 40 years Tara and has two grown children.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always another pastor from Central Texas and dailypastor.com, our co-host Dace Clifton. Pastor Scott Weatherford, welcome to the show!
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we talk about the Purpose Driven Church model with Pastor Scott Weatherford. If you’re looking for a simple path of discipleship to turn seekers into reproducing disciples, the Purpose Driven Church model may be what you are looking for. Do you have a process on how to introduce church attendees into membership and move members into progressively deeper steps of commitment and maturity? We all want to lead thriving churches who transform their city and the world, and that is why we are talking about the Purpose Driven Church model today with Scott Weatherford.
Scott Weatherford BioScott Weatherford is a pastor and consultant who is passionate about helping pastors overcome their biggest challenges and grow healthy churches. His experience leading church plants, mega-churches, and established churches give him a deep empathy for a range of pastoral challenges, but Scott is deeply committed to the local church. He has helped to launch almost 50 churches in North America and around the world.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and as always another pastor from Central Texas and dailypastor.com, our co-host Dace Clifton. Pastor Scott Weatherford, welcome to the show!
LinksScott Weatherford WebsiteDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Music by:
Sow and Tether
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor John Stange on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively in ministry.
John Stange BioJohn Stange is the lead pastor of Core Creek Community Church in Langhorne, Pennsylvania, as well as an adjunct professor at Cairn University, where he teaches courses on counseling, theology, and church planting. Stange is a certified speaker, trainer, and coach with the John Maxwell Team and is also the director of the National Mission Board, a ministry focused on church planting and church health. He hosts three podcasts and is the author of the new book, Dwell on These Things which released yesterday!
Notable Quotables"Because the things you are preaching to your own heart are going to come out in what you say from the pulpit. It is going to sneak out one way or another. It's going to come out in the conversations you have one on one with the people in your church. It's also going to come out in the way you lead your team. You're going to lead them in the way you understand that you are being led. So if I understand the mercy and the grace and the victory that Christ has shared with me, I'm going to lead my team, with that kind of mindset, and it's going to create a culture of that in the local church."
Verse of the DayPhilippians 4:8
"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable—if there is any moral excellence and if there is any praise—dwell on these things."
Websites and Other LinksDwell on These Things BookJohn Stange Website - Desiring JesusCore Creek Community ChurchPodcast - Dwell on These ThingsDaily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Steve Hinton on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively in ministry.
Notable Quotables
"Being a pastor there are extremes. You can really be a sloth and lazy and people will not know...or you can work yourself to death in a really quick manner."
"What do I wish I would've known earlier in ministry? To relax...and then trusting that God is going to do something good with it."
Steve Hinton Bio
Steve Hinton is the Lead Minister of Cypress Crossings Christian Church in Cypress, Texas. Serving in full-time ministry for 25 years, Steve has served as a missionary, church planter, and lead pastor. Steve completed his undergraduate at Ozark Christian College and received his master from Cincinnati Christian Seminary. He has been married to Debi for 27 years, and they have four children. Steve Hinton regularly blogs at kingdomology.org and is the author of the book centered on pastoral ministry, Confessions: Finding Hope Through One Pastor’s Doubt.
Verse of the Day2 Timothy 4:1-2
"In the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead, and in view of his appearing and his kingdom, I give you this charge: Preach the word; be prepared in season and out os season; correct, rebuke and encourage - with great patience and careful instruction. "
Websites and Other Links
Confessions Book | Steve HintonSteve's Blog | Kingdomology.org
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Andy Albertini on how to deal with the velocity of change.
Andy Albertini Bio
Andy Albertini is the Executive Director and CEO of Christian Grads Fellowship and A2 Consulting, author of the book: Rogue Leadership, and host of the Christian Grads Fellowship podcast. Andy now works with people to help deal with the velocity of change. Andy served as a pastor for over almost 20 years and also holds a Master’s degree in Transformational Leadership from Barclay College. Originally from West Virginia, Andy, his wife Stephanie, and their two children now live in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex.
Andy Albertini welcome to the Thriving in Ministry podcast!
Verse of the DayMatthew 22:37-39
“And he said to them, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Websites and Other Links
Andy Albertini Book | Rogue Leadership
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
Do you find identity more in success than in your calling from God? On this episode Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about the book Dangerous Calling by Paul David Tripp. Join us as we talk about how pastors and church leaders can avoid some common negative thoughts that many pastors face.
Dangerous Calling Book | Paul David Tripp
Notable Quoteables
“Human beings are always assigning to themselves some kind of identity. There are
only two places to look. Either you will be getting your identity vertically, from who you are in
Christ, or you will be shopping for it horizontally in the situations, experiences, and relationships of your daily life."
“The ultimate purpose of the Word of God is not theological information but heart
and life transformation.”
“Self-righteous people tend to be critical, dismissive, and impatient with others.”
LinksDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Music by:
Sow and Tether
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Chad Missildine on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Chad Missildine BioChad Missildine is the President and CEO of The Stephen Group and the author of the new book A Tale of 2 Leaders. Chad served on staff for 12 years under Craig Groeschel at Life.Church and works now with high-performing leaders across both the for-profit and non-profit sectors. Chad and his wife Macy have three daughters and live in Edmond, Oklahoma.
Verse of the DayMatthew 11:28-30
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
***Notable Quotable
“When we say ‘no’ to the good things, we have more time, margin, and energy to say ‘yes’ to the best things."
"Be intentional, not accidental."
"When you are a pastor or church leader and you believe that no one can do 'it' as well as you can, it is going to be true. ..it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy."***
Questions
- What do you do to create margin in both your personal and professional life?
- How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
- How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
- What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other Links
Chad Missildine | Executive Coach & Mentor
Follow Chad Missildine on Twitter
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Chad Missildine on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Chad Missildine BioChad Missildine is the President and CEO of The Stephen Group and the author of the new book A Tale of 2 Leaders. Chad served on staff for 12 years under Craig Groeschel at Life.Church and works now with high-performing leaders across both the for-profit and non-profit sectors. Chad and his wife Macy have three daughters and live in Edmond, Oklahoma.
Verse of the DayMatthew 11:28-30
“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
***Notable Quotable
“When we say ‘no’ to the good things, we have more time, margin, and energy to say ‘yes’ to the best things."
"Be intentional, not accidental."
"When you are a pastor or church leader and you believe that no one can do 'it' as well as you can, it is going to be true. ..it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy."***
Questions
- What do you do to create margin in both your personal and professional life?
- How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
- How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
- What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other Links
Chad Missildine | Executive Coach & Mentor
Follow Chad Missildine on Twitter
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Doug Ward on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Doug Ward Bio
Pastor Doug Ward has been the Lead Pastor of Mundelein Church of the Nazarenein Illinois for the past 15 years. Doug has a Masters Degree from Wheaton College, and has completed his coursework toward a PhD from Marquette University in Biblical Theology. Doug Ward has also wrote the book “I Object: Uncommon Answers to Common Objections to Christianity.” Doug is also an Adjunct Professor of New Testament at Olivet Nazarene University, where he has taught for 16 years. He and his wife Michelle have two children and 4 grandchildren.Outside of church leadership, he can be found golfing or cheering on the Cleveland Browns and Indians.
I’m Kyle Willis, Founder of Talanton Church Services, and always a pastor from Central Texas and dailypastor.com, our co-host Dace Clifton.
Questions
- What do you do to create margin in your life and ministry?
- How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
- How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
- What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other Links
I Object! Book by Doug WardDoug Ward | Blog 4 Questions for Mike McDaniel | Thriving in Ministry PodcastChicago Style Pizza Places
Do you need to forgive for yourself or others? On this episode Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about the new book by Lysa Terkeurst entitled Forgiving What You Can't Forget. Join us as we talk about how pastors and church leaders can exhibit forgiveness in order to lead effectively in ministry.
Notable Quoteables
“Forgiveness is both a decision and a process.”
“Forgiveness is not made possible by our determination."
"Forgiveness is made possible with our cooperation with what God has already done.”
“I forgive Art for breaking our marriage vows. And whatever my feelings don’t yet allow for, the blood of Jesus will surely cover.”
“Staying here, blaming them, and forever defining your life by what they did will only increase the pain. Worse, it will keep projecting out onto others. The more our pain consumes us, the more it will control us. And sadly, it’s those who least deserve to be hurt whom our unresolved pain will hurt the most.”
“Forgiveness releases our need for retaliation, not our need for boundaries.”
“Hardened hearts have such a propensity to get shattered. Soft hearts don’t as easily break”
“Living in the comfort of peace is so much better than living in the constraints of unforgiveness.”
LinksDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Music by:
Sow and Tether
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Hunter Bobo of Sow and Tether on his songwriting process and his experience on leading his congregation in meaningful worship.
Hunter Bobo Bio
Pastor Hunter Bobo serves as the worship pastor of Redeemer Baptist Church in Olive Branch, Mississippi, and is also the singer/songwriter of the band Sow and Tether. Hunter is bi-vocational pastor. He and his wife Kelsey have two children.
I am Kyle Willis and as always Dace Clifton is my co-host. Pastor Hunter Bobo, welcome to the show!
Verse of the Day/Life Verse
"Whatever you do work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men." - Colossians 3:23
Questions
1. Do you have a life verse or a particular scripture that you are currently encouraging you?
2. Can you tell us a little bit about Sow and Tether (founding, style, purpose)? What does your writing process look like?
3. Sow and Tether is releasing a new song today entitle The Goodness of the Gospel. We are going to premier it here in a minute, but can you give us some background on the song?
4. If there are lead pastors listening to the Thriving in Ministry podcast today that are struggling with their worship leader and leading their church in worship, what is one or two things you would want them to know from the worship pastor’s perspective?
5. So we have been interviewing lead pastors with the 4 questions and as we want to encourage pastors in their ministry. You obviously have a lot on your plate, but let me ask you this one question…How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
Websites and Other LinksThe Goodness of the Gospel | Sow and TetherSow and Tether | Gospel Saturated Worship Redeemer Baptist Church | Olive Branch, MSTwitter | Hunter Bobo
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Kyle Bueermann on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Not Another Baptist PodcastThey Devoted Themselves - Kyle Bueermann Book
Kyle Bueermann is the Lead Pastor of First Baptist Church in Alamogordo, New Mexico. Before serving at FBC Alamogordo, Kyle served as Pastor at First Baptist Church in Clayton, NM and as a youth and music minister in West Texas.
Kyle graduated from Wayland Baptist University with a B.A. in Religious Education. He received the Master of Divinity in 2011 from Rockbridge Seminary and completed the Doctor of Ministry from Rockbridge in 2019. He also hosts the “Not Another Baptist” Podcast with Matt Henslee. Kyle and his wife Michelle have two children and I believe is an avid fan of the Texas Rangers.
Pastor Kyle Bueermann, welcome to the show!
Questions
- 1) What do you do to create margin in your life and ministry?
- 2) How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
- 3) How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
- 4) What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other LinksDaily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether MusicKyle Bueermann Blog
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Mike McDaniel on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
The Resurgent Church Book | Mike McDaniel
Pastor Mike McDaniel is the Founder and Lead Pastor of Grace Point Church of NW Arkansas in Bentonville, AR. This year marks the 20-year anniversary of Grace Point. Before founding Grace Point Church, he and his family served in the Republic of Zambia doing church and community development. He has degrees from Southwest Baptist University, BA, Mid-America Baptist Theological Seminary, M. Div and Doctorate of Ministry degree from Dallas Theological Seminary. Mike also enjoys crossfit and spending time with his family.
Pastor Mike McDaniel, welcome to the show!
***Notable Quotable
"Anyone in ministry, whether your church is 100 or 1,000 in attendance your time will be consumed."
"Once you reach burnout, it is incredibly hard to ever get hard back to full steam."
"Whoever isolates himself seeks his own desire; he breaks out against all sound judgement." - Proverbs 18:1
"Self-care is never selfish." - Pastor Mike McDaniel
Questions***
1. What do you do to create margin in your life and ministry?
2. How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
3. How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
4. What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other Links
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
Grace Point ChurchInbox Zero: Dylan Dodson
On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor Dylan Dodson on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Dylan Dodson Bio
Pastor Dylan Dodson is the Founder and Lead Pastor of New City Church in Raleigh, North Carolina. He obtained a B.A. in Philosophy and Religion from the University of North Carolina – Wilmington and an M.A. in Religion from Liberty University. Dylan's family and his wife Christina have two children.
Dylan is also the host of the Practical Church Planting Podcast, which has become one of my must listen to podcasts in 2021.
Pastor Dylan Dodson, welcome to the show!
Questions
- What do you do to create margin in your life and ministry?
- How do you stay healthy and avoid burnout?
- How are you leading yourself, your team, and your church more effectively?
- What's one thing you wish you had known earlier in ministry?
Websites and Other Links
Daily Pastor Online ContentTalanton Church ServicesSow and Tether Music
Deep Work: Cal Newport
Carey Nieuwhof: High Impact Leader Course
Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: John Mark Comer
Inbox Zero: Dylan Dodson
Practical Church Planting Podcast
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss the lessons learned from Covid-19 for many pastors and church leaders. We take a few minutes to reflect on areas of opportunity, how churches can be better prepared for other events, and what can be carried forward into the future.
Join us for this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast as we discuss "What Covid Taught Many Church Leaders. Brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Mike Fritscher on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Pastor BioMike Fritscher is the pastor of Cottonwood. A native of New Orleans and a graduate of Houston Baptist University and Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Mike has been the pastor of Cottonwood since 1986. Under his leadership Cottonwood has grow from a small rural church to a dynamic community of faith impacting the local community and world. Cottonwood has sent hundreds of church members overseas to engage unreached people around the world.
Verse of the Day2 Corinthians 3:17-18 (ESV) - "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit."
Notable Quotable"It would just kill me if someone said he is a great preacher, but a lousy pastor. I would much rather be known as a good pastor and a lousy preacher." - Mike Fritscher
LinksDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Sow and Tether Music
Cottonwood Life
On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we interview Pastor John Wilke on how to create margin, avoid burnout, and lead effectively.
Pastor BioJohn Wilke is the Senior Pastor of Immanuel Lutheran Church in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. He has served at Immanuel for almost 20 years. Rev Wilke completed his undergraduate and seminary training at Concordia University and is currently completing Doctor of Ministry from Institute of Lutheran Theology. John and his wife, Bianca, have 6 boys. Also, John Wilke hosts the Dummies on Theology podcast.
Verse of the DayTitus 2:1 (NRSV) - "But as for you, teach what is consistent with sound doctrine."
Notable Quotable"To endure the cross is not a tragedy; it is the suffering which is the fruit of an exclusive allegiance to Jesus Christ. When it comes, it is not an accident, but a necessity. It it not the sort of suffering which is inseparable from this mortal life, but the suffering which is an essential part of the specifically Christian life. It is not suffering per se but suffering and rejection, and not rejection for any cause or conviction of our own, but rejection for the sake of Christ." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"There is no disconnecting anymore; people can always get to you. There is this urge to feel needed and important and that is all it is. I want to be important because nowhere else am I important but here. Someone needs pastor's advice, they need me to do something. So I immediately want to go there (my phone)." - Pastor John Wilke
"When we get into the business end of things (of the church) and we become Pastor as CEO, I would argue that is when we start to lose our effectiveness in ministry." - Pastor John Wilke
LinksDaily Pastor Online Content
Talanton Church Services
Sow and Tether Music
Dummies on Theology Podcast
Immanuel Lutheran Church | Broken Arrow, OK
When should you alter your sermon based on current events? In the midst of political disruption, social justice movements, and the coronavirus pandemic, many pastors are struggling to know when the right time is to address issues from the pulpit. If you have questions on when and how to edit your sermon preparation, listen to this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast.
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With the new year upon us, Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis take some time to talk about the future of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast and Daily Pastor. In 2021, Daily Pastor will be encouraging pastors to create margin in ministry, avoid burnout, and lead effectively. We also talk a bit about cryptocurrency and TikTok.
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www.talantonservices.com
Merry Christmas from http://www.dailypastor.com. Thank you to the Thriving in Ministry community for engaging with us in 2020. We have some great things planned for 2021 that you will not want to miss! Oh yeah, we also created a TikTok account @dailypastor.
Have a great Christmas!
Do you struggled with telling your church no? On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss how saying no to some things allow pastors and church leaders to say yes to the best things in ministry.
Join us for Episode 59, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
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On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we are discussing self care around the holidays. How should pastors and church leaders manage their personal self to create margin during the end of the year?
Join us for Episode 58, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
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On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, Carl Walker interviews Jacque and Dace Clifton on the practical realities of sabbaticals.
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www.engediretreat.org
Join us for Episode 57, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're talking about eliminating non-value added work. How is it that pastors can create margin, and what are the routines and habits that lead to value added input?
Join us for episode 56 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How is it that we find yet another pastor leaving ministry due to a moral failure? On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, why pastors fall out of ministry. Join us for episode 55 brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we are talking about why pastors need a sabbatical. How is it that pastors taking time away from your church may actually be the best thing for your church.
Join us for Episode 54 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Talanton Church Services and Daily Pastor.
How do you handle the anxiety and blessing of a new pregnancy? Many pastors and church leaders struggle to find the joy in the unexpected news that their wife is pregnant.
Join us for episode 53 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
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On today’s episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we will be talking with Eric Costanzo on what it takes to start an international refugee ministry in your church. How is it that you can live out their calling and thrive in the community where God has placed your church ?
Eric Costanzo is the Lead Pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church. Previously Eric served as an Associate Pastor and directed ministries towards the homeless and impoverished. Eric speaks at events and conferences related to missions, serving immigrants and refugees or those facing the effects of situational poverty. He is also the author of Harbor for the Poor, a book focused on Christian approaches to poverty throughout history.
Join us for episode 52 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Talanton Church Services and Daily Pastor.
Resources
ericcostanzo.me
southtulsa.org
https://www.forthehealth.net/statement
https://www.amazon.com/Harbor-Poor-Eric-Costanzo/dp/1498265022
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On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're talking about finding one's identity in Christ. Phil Blount, author of The Crappy Christian Life, joins us once again to talk about how he found true freedom in his identity in Christ after battling depression for over 20 years.
Join us for episode 51 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're talking about sermon fails. Preaching is a critical part of a pastor's ministry, and an important part of preaching is that sometimes sermons don't go well. So join us as we share the top ten sermon fails.
Join us for Episode 50, on the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're encouraging you to Make a Decision, Pastor. Making decisions is non-stop while you lead your ministry, but the timing and effectiveness of that decision is a huge factor in whether or not you will thrive in ministry.
Join us for Episode 49 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Did we take the opportunity to read our conversation with a scammer? Yes we did. On this bonus episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, Kyle Willis reads his messages with the fake Dace to the real Dace Clifton.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're talking about pastoral life past COVID. What are the benefits that should be kept for pastors following a pandemic?
Join Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton for Episode 47 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode we'll be talking with Kyle Willis, the founder of Talanton Church Services, and co-host of The Thriving in Ministry Podcast. Co-host Dace Clifton will be interviewing Kyle, reciprocating with some tough questions of his own.
Join us for Episode 46 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast. Brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How does an agnostic's journey lead to true faith? On this week's episode we talk with Phil Blount about his new book, The Crappy Christian Life.
Phil Blount was the picture of a miserable Christian for much of his adult life. But ask him how he is today and he'll probably answer, "I'm so good I make myself jealous!" Walk with him through the journey from agnosticism to faith, then from chronic depression to a relationship with God that provides deep and abiding peace and satisfaction.
Buy The Crappy Christian Life here.
Join us for Episode 45 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we are talking about Dace Clifton, our co-host. We're doing something a little different, so we are just doing 5 questions for Dace.
Join us for Episode 44 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we're talking about leading for the long game. How is it you can set yourself up as a pastor or church leader to have a long tenure in ministry?
Join us for Episode 43 on the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we will be talking with Danny Slavich of Cross United Church in Lighthouse Point, Florida. Danny will be sharing from his experiences on the processes and benefits of church planting.
Join us for Episode 42 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, we will be continuing our conversation with Carl Walker on Discipleship. On the last episode, Carl Walker shared about his passion for discipleship, and on this one we're going to talk about where to begin and how you can get started in the discipleship process. We will share some practical tips and best practices for starting a discipleship ministry from scratch.
Join us for Part 2 of this conversation on the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How can you thrive in discipleship? Are pastors and church leaders bringing up the next generation of leaders in a way that Jesus would? On today's episode, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton are joined by Carl Walker of En Gedi Retreat as we explore the differences between discipleship and mentorship.
Join us for another great episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis have a casual conversation about thriving in ministry. We try something a little bit different with a more behind-the-scenes episode. Our hope is that you will leave encourage and inspired to thrive in the place that God has called you.
Join us for Episode 39 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, we're going to be talking about Thriving in Endurance. Endurance can absolutely be a blessing to you in your ministry, so we're going to be talking about the critical role that endurance plays.
Join us for Episode 38 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
On today's episode of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, we will be talking about how to create a successful church budget. We know that church finances can be one of the biggest challenges that pastors face, and we want to equip you with some simple steps as you prepare your church budget.
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Join us for Episode 37 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Today we talk about rest and the importance of sabbaticals. How is it that ministry leaders can balance the demands of their ministry by maximizing times of rest? On this episode Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about pastor sabbaticals. What is a sabbatical and how can it help pastors be at their best? Dace shares about his upcoming sabbatical and the reset that it will provide...all this on the Thriving in Ministry podcast.
Join us for Episode 36 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
What are the components of a healthy ministry? How do you know if you are being fulfilled in your church ministry and life? Join us today as we're talking about Thriving in Ministry, the 7 Marks of a Healthy Ministry. Today we will talk about what a healthy ministry should look like in your life… all this on the Thriving in Ministry podcast.
Join us for Episode 35 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How involved should your family be with your ministry? How do you lead your family while in ministry? Your ministry is always changing, but you always have the same family. Join us today as we're talking about Thriving in Balance with our families. Today we will talk about how your family can be involved in ministry, some pitfalls to be on the look out for, and some tips for thriving with your family… all this on the Thriving in Ministry podcast.
Join us for Episode 34 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Sooner or later you are going to be called on to participate in a funeral, so how can pastors prevent a funeral fail? On today’s bonus episode, we will be talking about DEATH… actually we are going to talk about my favorite subject…funerals. Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss things to do, and things NOT to do in order to avoid a funeral fail.
Join us for Episode 33 of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How can your church benefit from change? Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about how pastors and church leaders can lead their church towards improvement in both the ministry and non-ministry efforts. Change is difficult, but needed in many churches.
Join us for Season 2, Episode 8 of Thriving in Improvement: Future Church of the Thriving in Ministry Podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How can pastors lead their church during times of transition while creating a healthy culture and reaching the community with the Gospel? How do pastors and church leaders maintain a healthy balance during seasons of change? We believe that you can learn best on how to thrive in transition, by hearing from Sam Rainer. All this on the Thriving in Ministry podcast.
On today’s episode we are talking with Sam Rainer, Pastor of West Bradenton Baptist Church. Sam helps lead Church Answers and Rainer Publishing as well as co-hosting the EST.Church and Rainer on Leadership podcasts.
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How can your preaching increase its impact during a time of crisis? During any time of uncertainty, pastors must preach off of a solid foundation. On today’s episode, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton discuss how pastors and church leaders can make the best out of a bad situation.
Join us for Episode 30, Thriving in Preaching - Crisis. The Thriving in Ministry podcast is brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How can you empower your team to unleash their creativity into the work of your church? During these times of increased pressure, there will be new ways that your church will want to increase your impact. On today's episode, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk with Steven Hall, from Mod Scenes, on how church leaders can thrive in creativity. We’ll talk about how your church can improve their overall programming, even on a budget.
Join us for Episode 29, Thriving in Creativity: Mod Scenes. The Thriving in Ministry podcast is brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Clarity is a critical component of effective preaching. When you are clear, people remember and can apply your teaching to their lives. On today’s episode, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about how to clarify your preaching so it is more memorable and effective.
Join us for Episode 28, Thriving in Preaching: Clarity. The Thriving in Ministry podcast is brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
As many churches are beginning to formulate their plans for reopening, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton address how the question of "How to open our church facilities?" Your church will never get a second chance to make that first impression.
Join us for Episode 27, Thriving in Reopening: Church Facilities. The Thriving in Ministry podcast is brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton share on the importance of setting priorities in order to thrive in isolation. On today’s episode we talk about 4 different ways to respond well to these new pressures and challenges. We’ll lay out a plan for you to better manage your schedule and life so that you don’t come up empty.
Join us for Episode 26 - Thriving in Isolation: Priorities, brought to you by dailypastor.com and Talanton Church Services.
Season 2 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast is here! Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton talk about how to thrive in isolation with our families. As pastors and church leaders have increased their busyness during the last several weeks, we want to encourage you towards thriving in your home.
Join us Episode 25 - Thriving in Isolation: Family, brought to you by dailypastor.com and Talanton Church Services.
BONUS PODCAST: All churches are wondering about how to best function during the Coronavirus/Covid-19 Crises. Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton share about the ministry and non-ministry related tasks that church leadership should be thinking through this week. You need to be thinking about the next several weeks and this episode will help you begin the discussion for your church. Get your free Coronavirus Church Roadmap by emailing us at kyle@talantonservices.com or thedailypastor@gmail.com.
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Is your church more concerned about coffee or the Holy Spirit? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis talk about the coffee test to determine the focus of your church.
Listen to this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by The Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Do you desire to be better prepared in your preaching and communication? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis share The Pastors' Pathway on Better Preaching. We discuss the mindset pastors must be in and provide resources for better preaching.
Listen to Episode 23 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
What are the dos and don'ts for pastors in order to be effective for ministry? Carl Walker shares his fresh perspective from working with dozens of pastors every year. You do not want to miss this episode!
Listen to Episode 21 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Pastors need rest. Carl Walker shares his fresh perspective from working with dozens of pastors every year. Rest is not something we do apart from ministry, it should be a part of your ministry.
Listen to Episode 20 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Are you dreaming of building a new church facility? On this episode of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, Kyle Willis and Dace Clifton speak with Rodney James about what to consider before you build. Rodney is the President of Master's Plan Church Design and Construction and a pastor of over 20 years. We talk about due diligence, counting the costs, and the timing of financing and fundraising.
Listen to Episode 19 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
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Do you struggle with feeling blue, numb, or depressed? Aaron Halstead shares his learnings from Spurgeon on how depression affects pastors.
Listen to Episode 18 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
The story of Mona Dixon is perhaps the best story you have not heard yet. She shares her journey from a cardboard house to the White House. An investment of $20 by a stranger changed the course of Mona's life and has impacted thousands of youth.
Listen to Episode 17 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Do you struggle with implementing change in your church? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis share The Pastors' Pathway on Implementing Change. We discuss the best approach on how to communicate and increase engagement with your congregation during times of change.
Listen to Episode 16 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
Do you find it difficult to make decisions in your ministry? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis share The Pastors' Pathway on Making Decisions. We discuss what every church leader should consider when thinking through tough ministry decisions.
Listen to Episode 15 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How does the tenure of a pastor benefit a particular church? Dr. John Mann speaks of how his congregation has grown over the years under one leader. We discuss what every church leader should consider with regards to staying the course in your church.
Listen to Episode 14 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
How does finding your identity in Christ help you to live free? Trey Dixon shares his journey of faith and how God has used his story to impact thousands of mens' lives. We discuss how to encourage the men of your church to WALK, ENGAGE, and LIVE FREE. Check out True North Ministries at www.truenorth.live.
Listen to Episode 13 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
What does it look like to serve those in our church and community? Jon Langford and Frank Tomberlin share how The Gathering is engaging employees in the entertainment and service industries. We discuss how your congregation can engage in daily interactions to demonstrate the love of Christ.
Listen to Episode 12 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
How does the Bible serve as a filter for truth in today's world? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis share how the scriptures helps us stay on track when facing discouragement. We will discuss ways for church leaders to draw truth from the Bible in tough times.
Listen to Episode 11 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Do you lack focus in your personal and professional ministry? Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis share practical tips with pastors on how to Thrive in Ministry. We discuss the difficulties that every pastor and church leader face and how to start to overcome those distractions.
Listen to Episode 9 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Is your church in need of a merger with another church? Dr. John Mann shares his recent experience of leading a church merger with Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis. We discuss the necessary steps a pastor or church leadership should think through in the middle of merging with another congregation.
Listen to Episode 9 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Are you a church leader or volunteer wanting to increase the purity of your thoughts and actions? This is the second part of pursuing purity.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis talk about pursuing and maintaining purity in our thought life, our online time, and all of our daily actions. Pursuing purity in an impure age is difficult, especially for church leaders.
How can we build purity into our daily lives? Listen to Episode 7 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Are you a church leader or volunteer wanting to increase the purity of your thoughts and actions?
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis talk about pursuing and maintaining purity in our thought life, our online time, and all of our daily actions. Pursuing purity in an impure age is difficult, especially for church leaders.
How can we build purity into our daily lives? Listen to Episode 7 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Is it your desire to see your church embrace local and global missions? Matt Willis, Dace Clifton, and Kyle Willis discuss how to create engagement in your church around a desire to share Christ with others. We discuss the strategy behind creating the next steps for your church to build a missional mindset.
Listen to Episode 6 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Are you a pastor wanting to better understand church finances?
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis clarify some basic business terms that may be discussed in your church business meetings or budgeting sessions. Many church leaders do not feel adequately prepared to handle the business demands of their church.
How can pastors and ministry leaders increase their stewardship of their church's resources? Listen to Episode 5 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor and Talanton Church Services.
How do you handle criticism from others in your church?
There will be times in ministry when you are going to face criticism. Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss how to love those in our congregation who have the blessing of sharing their thoughts. We provide some keys to keeping your focus on Christ even when targeted by a critic.
How do you face an unjust criticism or personal insults from church members? Listen to Episode 4 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss a checklist to think thought if you are considering quitting ministry. Do not let the difficulties of leading a church make you want to throw in the towel.
Are you overwhelmed by the demands of your ministry? Listen to Episode 3 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss practical ways to love your wife. A focus on loving your spouse is vital to cultivating a fruitful ministry over the long-haul.
Is your spouse being filled by your ministry or is she struggling for attention? Listen to Episode 2 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.
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At Daily Pastor, we know that church leaders want to better equipped for ministry. You need encouragement to not just survive, but thrive in the place where God has called you. Most training and resources don't really prepare church leaders for the challenges they will face. These teal-world challenges can leave you feeling overwhelmed, underprepared, isolated, or burned out. We believe you don't have to face challenges alone. It is why Daily Pastor helps church leaders and volunteers find the encouragement and tools to thrive in ministry.
Dace Clifton and Kyle Willis discuss practical ways on how to avoid burnout in ministry. Burnout in church leaders occurs when we are either physically, emotionally, or spiritually drained. It is effecting your ministry.
How can pastors and ministry leaders lead in a way that allows them to flourish and grow, instead of dry up and get drained? Listen to Episode 1 of the Thriving in Ministry podcast, brought to you by Daily Pastor.