Foul Play: A True Crime Podcast: Recent Episodes

Shane Waters

Foul Play is one of the oldest true crime podcasts. Murder, Mysteries, Serial Killers, Oh My! Let us take you on a journey to discover some of the most unbelievable minds of the most wicked monsters imaginable. We might even solve a few cold cases again!

Hosted by crime journalist Shane L. Waters, Netflix "The Keepers" star Gemma Hoskins, and crime writer Wendy Cee.

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In Episode 4 of Casey Anthony: Truth or Lies, we delve into the tense period following Casey's arrest, as the investigation intensifies. With Caylee still missing, detectives rely on clues from Casey’s Pontiac Sunfire and explore leads from coast-to-coast sightings, but none bear fruit. The introduction of cadaver dogs adds a haunting layer as they detect signs of human decomposition, both in Casey’s trunk and the Anthony family’s backyard. Despite her arrest, Casey secures a $500,000 bond with the help of renowned bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, a decision that provokes public outrage. As Casey returns home, her demeanor, marked by a lack of visible grief or urgency, continues to raise troubling questions about her involvement, painting a disturbing portrait of a mother seemingly unfazed by her daughter’s disappearance.Visit us online here.Try out Shane's History podcast here. You may also like his mystery podcast here!

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In Episode 3 of Casey Anthony – Truth or Lies, we explore the events leading up to Cindy Anthony's frantic 911 calls on the evening of July 15, 2008. Cindy, concerned after not seeing her granddaughter Caylee for 31 days, reaches a breaking point. In this episode, we delve into the escalation of tension as Cindy confronts her daughter Casey, demanding answers about Caylee's whereabouts. The 911 calls reveal Cindy's growing panic, Casey's evasiveness, and the unsettling details that emerge. As law enforcement steps in, the mystery deepens, setting the stage for the legal battles that follow.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comJoin our Patreon at Patreon.com/itsfoulplay

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In Episode 2 of our Casey Anthony series, "Playing Games," we dive deeper into the troubling timeline following the last sighting of little Caylee Anthony. Casey’s behavior during these critical days raises unsettling questions as we hear from Tony Lazarro, who recounts how Casey spent time with him, seemingly carefree, while Caylee was missing. From borrowing a neighbor’s shovel to attending a "hot body contest," Casey’s actions paint a disturbing picture. We also explore George and Cindy Anthony’s growing desperation as they struggle to get answers from their daughter, culminating in the discovery of Casey’s abandoned car—reeking of something far more sinister than mere garbage. Tune in as we piece together the chilling details that continue to haunt this case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com

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Welcome to the new season of Foul Play—Casey Anthony: Truth or Lies. In this first episode, titled "Where is Caylee," we begin unraveling the tragic and infamous case of Caylee Anthony's disappearance. Caylee, a bright and beautiful 3-year-old girl, was last seen in June 2008. Her mother, Casey Anthony, soon became the prime suspect in a case that captivated the nation. In this episode, we’ll lay out the timeline leading up to Caylee’s disappearance and explore the mysterious behavior of her mother, Casey. Along with Wendy, we are joined by private investigator Rob Dick, who offers insider knowledge about the case. As we revisit the events, the lies, and the investigations, we’ll ask the question everyone was left wondering: what really happened to Caylee?Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com

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In this final episode of our series on the Zodiac, we explore a radical new theory that challenges everything we've come to believe about one of America's most infamous killers. Professor Thomas Henry Horan, an academic with a controversial stance, suggests that the Zodiac Killer never truly existed. Through his "Zodiac Hoax Theory," Horan argues that the murders attributed to the Zodiac were, in fact, the work of multiple unrelated killers, with the infamous letters and ciphers being the product of hoaxers. Join us as we unravel this alternative perspective on a case that has perplexed investigators and captivated the public for over five decades.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comJoin our Patreon at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayListen to Shane's history podcast: Hometown History and his mystery podcast Mystery Inc.

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Hello friend, in this episode of The Zodiac, we dive deep into one of the most captivating mysteries of the infamous Zodiac Killer—his cryptic Z340 cipher. For over 50 years, this 340-character code baffled experts, evading even the most skilled cryptographers. In 2020, a breakthrough finally came when a team of codebreakers solved the cipher, revealing chilling new insights into the Zodiac’s twisted psyche. I’ll take you on a journey through decades of attempts to crack the code, the modern technologies used, and the remarkable collaboration that ultimately unraveled one of the most elusive puzzles in true crime history. Join me as we explore this long-awaited victory in the hunt for the Zodiac Killer.

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In this episode of the Foul Play Zodiac Crime Series, we dive deep into the film adaptation of the Zodiac Killer case, exploring how the movie portrayed one of the most infamous unsolved mysteries in American history. Through a blend of film clips, interviews, and behind-the-scenes insights, we analyze how the filmmakers captured the intense psychological toll on those involved in the investigation and the haunting uncertainty that still lingers today. The episode not only revisits the chilling events but also delves into the challenges of bringing such a complex story to the big screen, revealing the intricacies of both the case and its cinematic retelling.

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In this episode of Foul Play, we delve into the enigmatic figure of Ross Sullivan, a man whose unsettling behavior and proximity to the 1966 murder of Cheri Jo Bates in Riverside, California, have long fueled speculation about his potential connection to the Zodiac Killer. We explore the circumstantial evidence and eerie coincidences that have led some to suspect Sullivan, from his disturbing poems and cryptographic studies to his resemblance to the Zodiac's composite sketch. Despite the compelling connections, the case against Sullivan remains inconclusive, leaving his role in these infamous crimes shrouded in mystery.

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In this episode of Foul Play, we explore the lives and possible connections of two men who have long been suspected of being the elusive Zodiac killer. Lawrence Kane and Gary Francis Poste, both with troubled pasts and eerie coincidences linking them to the Zodiac’s crimes, have captured the attention of investigators and amateur sleuths alike. As we piece together their histories, psychological profiles, and the circumstantial evidence that ties them to the infamous murders, we confront the chilling possibility that one of them could indeed be the Zodiac. Join me as we unravel the mysteries surrounding these two suspects and their potential roles in one of America’s most enduring unsolved cases.

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In this conclusion to Brooklyn’s Night of Terror, we dive deeper into the case of the New York Zodiac Copycat. Following the disturbing attacks that left the city in fear, we uncover how the assailant, Heriberto ‘Eddie’ Seda, sought to emulate the infamous San Francisco Zodiac. With astrological signs as his twisted guide, Seda’s spree of violence spanned years, leaving a trail of terror and tragedy. This episode unravels the complex investigation that ultimately led to his capture, revealing the painstaking efforts of law enforcement and the crucial break in the case that brought Seda to justice. Join us as we explore the mind of a copycat killer and the relentless pursuit to end his reign of terror. Don’t miss this gripping conclusion to one of New York’s most harrowing crime stories.

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In this episode of Foul Play's Zodiac Crime Series, we delve into the chilling case of the New York Zodiac Copycat. Beginning in 1990, a series of brutal shootings in Brooklyn eerily mirrored the infamous Zodiac killings of California. The assailant, adopting the Zodiac moniker, sent taunting letters to law enforcement, detailing his heinous acts and threatening to kill more. With each attack seemingly linked to astrological signs, the NYPD launched an intense manhunt. Join me as we uncover the terror that gripped New York and the desperate efforts to stop this copycat killer.

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In this bonus episode we delve into the chilling events surrounding the mysterious April 1978 letter and the ensuing scandal that rocked the San Francisco Police Department. After a four-year silence, the infamous Zodiac killer seemingly re-emerged, sending a cryptic message to the San Francisco Chronicle that reignited the hunt for the elusive murderer. However, the spotlight soon shifted to Detective Dave Toschi, the lead investigator, when suspicions arose about his potential involvement in fabricating the letter. We explore the intricate web of doubt, the media frenzy, and the impact on Toschi's career as we unravel the layers of this complex case. Join us as we examine the evidence, the accusations, and the legacy of a detective forever haunted by the shadows of the Zodiac.

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In Episode 17, we delve into the intricate case against Richard Gaikowski, one of the many suspects in the Zodiac murders. The episode explores the series of letters sent to Detective Ken Narlow by an informant named Blaine Blaine, who claimed Gaikowski, a journalist and editor, was the infamous Zodiac Killer. Despite Blaine's fervent allegations and detailed reports, law enforcement found no substantial evidence linking Gaikowski to the murders. Through a careful examination of Blaine's claims, Gaikowski's background, and the broader context of the Zodiac investigation, we navigate the fine line between suspicion and proof, highlighting the challenges faced by investigators in solving one of America's most notorious cold cases.

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In Episode 16 we dive into the shadowy world of Richard ‘Rick’ Marshall, a man whose life intersected with the ongoing mystery of the Zodiac killer. The episode unravels the intriguing story that began with an anonymous letter sent to the Sheriff of Napa County in 1976, suggesting Marshall’s involvement in the Zodiac murders. Through the lens of amateur sleuths and dedicated law enforcement officers, we explore how Marshall’s peculiar interests and unsettling hobbies led him to be scrutinized as a potential suspect. Despite some striking coincidences and eerie similarities, the evidence against Marshall remained inconclusive, leaving more questions than answers in the pursuit of the infamous serial killer.

Listeners will be captivated by the tale of how journalist Robert Graysmith’s relentless investigation into the Zodiac case brought Marshall back into the spotlight. From anonymous phone calls to clandestine meetings and detailed personal investigations, Graysmith's quest for truth shines a light on the murky waters of the Zodiac investigation. The episode also discusses the broader impact of such unsolved cases on public psyche and the fine line between uncovering hidden truths and fostering unfounded speculation. Tune in as we delve into the complexities and the lingering mysteries surrounding one of the most enigmatic figures linked to the Zodiac killings.

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In this episode, we delve deeper into the life of Arthur Leigh Allen, a key suspect in the Zodiac killer investigation. The spotlight intensified on Allen as his troubling behaviors and circumstantial evidence painted a suspicious picture. The search of his trailer in 1972 yielded no direct links to the Zodiac murders, but his arrest for molestation in 1974 cast a darker shadow over his character. Despite passing a polygraph test about the Zodiac, the question of his guilt remained a haunting possibility.

As the years progressed, the scrutiny on Allen didn't wane. The publication of Robert Graysmith's book "Zodiac" in 1986 reignited public interest and speculation about Allen's involvement. Even though Graysmith used a pseudonym for Allen, whispers of his identity spread. Renewed searches and a final interrogation in the early '90s failed to produce conclusive evidence. Allen's death in 1992 left the mystery unresolved, but the debate over his connection to the Zodiac killings endures, highlighting the complexities and enduring intrigue of one of America's most notorious unsolved cases.

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In this episode we delve into the life and suspicions surrounding Arthur Leigh Allen, the most compelling suspect in the infamous Zodiac killer case. From his eerie conversations with Donald Cheney to his disturbing behaviors and connections to the Zodiac's chilling crimes, we unravel the evidence that casts a dark shadow over Allen. Discover how the detectives' relentless pursuit and mounting circumstantial evidence brought Allen into the spotlight, raising the haunting question: was he the elusive Zodiac killer?

Join us as we explore the unsettling parallels between Allen's actions and the Zodiac's terrifying spree. From his fascination with the macabre to his ominous statements and peculiar behaviors, this episode paints a vivid portrait of a man whose life and alleged crimes remain shrouded in mystery. Tune in to hear the chilling details and decide for yourself whether Arthur Leigh Allen was the true face behind the Zodiac's mask.

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In this episode of Foul Play, we dive deep into the enigmatic world of the Zodiac Killer, reviewing the evidence and discussing the possible motivations behind his terrifying spree across Northern California in the late 1960s. We explore the chilling details of his crimes, from the cryptic ciphers he sent to newspapers to the psychological games he played with law enforcement.

Join us as we dissect the Zodiac’s complex profile, analyzing how he managed to evade capture and instill fear in the public. We also examine the recent breakthroughs and ongoing efforts to unmask this elusive killer. Don’t miss this gripping discussion on one of America’s most infamous unsolved cases.

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In this episode of the Foul Play, we delve into the final letters of the Zodiac Killer, exploring his chilling correspondence from 1971 to 1974. Discover the eerie silence that fell over California and the unsettling resurgence of communication that kept the nation on edge. We’ll examine the chilling threats, cryptic ciphers, and the taunting messages that left investigators and the public in a state of constant fear and uncertainty.

Join us as we unravel the mysteries behind these cryptic messages, the taunts to law enforcement, and the lingering questions that continue to haunt investigators to this day. We’ll explore the various theories about the Zodiac’s identity, his possible motives, and the enduring impact of his reign of terror. Don’t miss this deep dive into the mind of one of America’s most enigmatic and elusive serial killers.

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In Episode 11 we delve into the tragic tales of young couples whose lives were cut short in brutal attacks that foreshadow the infamous Zodiac killer's reign of terror. Before the Zodiac became a household name for fear and intrigue, there were eerily similar murders. This episode explores the sunny day in Lompoc, California, in 1963 that ended in darkness for Bobby and Linda, and the heartbreak in San Diego in 1964 for Johnny and Joyce, unveiling the chilling possibility that these violent acts were the early works of the Zodiac.

Through detailed investigation and storytelling, the episode paints a vivid picture of the idyllic settings turned crime scenes at Gaviota Beach and Ocean Beach. It meticulously pieces together the victims' final hours and the relentless pursuit for justice that followed. Featuring insights from retired Sheriff’s Investigator Bill Baker, the narrative explores the potential link between these early cases and the Zodiac's notorious killing spree. This episode invites listeners into a haunting reflection on the origins of the Zodiac saga, highlighting the unresolved mysteries and the enduring quest to understand the true scope of the killer's dark journey.

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In this episode, we journey back to the haunting night of April 10, 1962, when Oceanside cab driver Ray Davis was found murdered under mysterious circumstances. Discover how this chilling crime left investigators puzzled and locals gripped by fear, following an anonymous phone call that eerily predicted the tragedy. As detectives scrambled to find the elusive killer, a pattern emerged that would later draw striking parallels to the infamous Zodiac murders that terrorized California in the late 1960s.

We'll delve into the unsettling similarities between Ray Davis' case and the Zodiac's known victims, exploring how the ominous threats against bus drivers, taunting police phone calls, and the brutal nature of the slaying all hinted at a potential connection. Was Ray Davis the Zodiac Killer’s victim? Or was this just a grim coincidence? Join us as we unravel the chilling details and piece together a story that continues to confound and captivate true crime enthusiasts.

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In this episode we delve into the chilling disappearance of Donna Lass, a 25-year-old nurse who vanished under mysterious circumstances from the Sahara Tahoe Casino Hotel in 1970. As we weave through the sinister trails left by the infamous Zodiac Killer, this episode explores how a cryptic postcard sent to the San Francisco Chronicle might be linked to her disappearance.

The card, filled with perplexing symbols and dire messages, hints at the possibility that Lass could have been one of Zodiac’s victims. Our investigation takes us through the eerie details of the postcard, the ongoing Zodiac investigation, and the haunting reality that Lass was never seen again after her shift at the casino.

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In this bonus episode we delve more into the unsolved murder of Cheri Jo Bates. On the night of October 30, 1966, Bates, an 18-year-old college student, met a tragic end on the campus of Riverside College in California. In this episode we discuss the Riverside Suspect and new evidence that came forward.

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This bonus episode unfurls the perplexing case of Cheri Jo Bates, murdered in 1966, whose death sparked not only grief but a series of sinister letters that shook the Riverside community. Delve into the dark twists of this case as anonymous letters once believed to be from the infamous Zodiac Killer come to light as a disturbing prank by a troubled teen. Explore how these revelations shift the focus back to the quest for the real killer, reigniting a cold case that refuses to be silenced.

Uncover the interplay of fact and fiction in an investigation that spans over five decades. As detectives employ cutting-edge DNA technology to solve the puzzle of the 2016 confession letter, the story takes a startling turn, offering a glimpse into the complexities of human conscience and the shadows of past actions. Join us as we piece together the intricate details of this haunting tale, reminding us that sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction. Tune in to confront the enigma of Cheri Jo Bates's untimely death and the eerie aftermath that continues to echo through the corridors of time.

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Explore the haunting details of Cheri Jo Bates's brutal murder in 1966, set against the backdrop of a society captivated by the likes of the Beatles and the debut of Star Trek. Delve into a meticulously detailed recounting of her last known hours, the gruesome crime scene, and the chilling letters that followed, which stoked the fear and fascination surrounding the Zodiac Killer.

This episode takes a deep dive into the complex web of evidence, from the infamous confession letter to the sinister poems left behind, as investigative journalist Paul Avery links the murder to the Zodiac's cryptic messages. Journey through the twists and turns of a case that has perplexed investigators for decades, featuring interviews, forensic analyses, and a look at the prime suspect "Bob Barnett." Tune in to unravel the layers of this cold case and the shadowy figure of the Zodiac, whose taunting games with the police and media continue to intrigue and horrify.

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In this bonus episode we dive into a haunting chapter of the Zodiac killer saga when the notorious serial killer directly reaches out for help through a dramatic interaction with famed attorney Melvin Belli. On October 22, 1969, in an audacious move, the Zodiac demanded Belli appear on a popular morning TV show, igniting a series of events filled with hope and deception. The episode unravels this bizarre engagement through the lens of Belli and the call-in show, capturing the tense exchanges and the desperate pleas of a caller identifying himself as 'Sam,' claiming to suffer from unbearable headaches since committing his crimes.

The narrative takes a darker turn as it explores the aftermath of the televised plea, detailing a planned but failed meeting between Belli and the Zodiac in Daly City, and the investigative twists that followed. This episode sheds light on the complexities of tracing the Zodiac's calls, the skepticism around the authenticity of 'Sam,' and the chilling realization that the Zodiac’s communication might just be another manipulative game in his terrifying spree. In December 1969, a letter arrives at Belli's office, accompanied by a piece of blood-stained clothing from victim Paul Stine, reinforcing the grim reality of the Zodiac's deadly actions and his cryptic interactions with the public figures he drew into his orbit.

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In this episode we delve into the cryptic and chilling world of the Zodiac Killer's communications through his letters and the infamous 340 Cipher. This episode unveils the terror that began with a series of menacing letters starting in November 1969, where the Zodiac threatened the lives of school children and baffled authorities with his complex ciphers. We explore how these letters not only continued to instill fear across California but also taunted the police with clues that seemed almost within reach yet remained unsolvable for decades.

Further intensifying the narrative, the episode covers the evolution of Zodiac's threats from targeted public taunts to more sinister and broad threats, including a detailed plan to create a "death machine" aimed at a school bus. The capture of this period of terror is complemented by insights from law enforcement officials, cryptologists who later cracked the 340 Cipher, and chilling audio clips from the era. As we dissect the psychological warfare waged by the Zodiac through his communications, listeners are drawn into the complex puzzle that has captivated and horrified the public and investigators for over fifty years.

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In this episode we delve into the haunting narrative of Paul Stine’s murder by the Zodiac Killer. On a seemingly ordinary night in the tranquil neighborhood of Presidio Heights in San Francisco, the silence is broken by a heinous act that propels Stine, a hopeful academic moonlighting as a cab driver, into the midst of a terrifying killing spree. Through detailed reconstructions, firsthand accounts, and police reports, this episode pieces together the events that led to Stine's untimely death, set against the backdrop of the Zodiac's reign of terror over the Bay Area.

The investigation into Stine’s murder unveils a series of critical missteps and a chilling correspondence from the Zodiac, mocking the police and threatening further violence. We explore the dispatch error that misdirected the initial search efforts, highlighting the challenges faced by law enforcement and the deepening mystery of the Zodiac's identity. Archival material enrich our understanding of this complex case, offering a compelling and disturbing glimpse into one of American criminal history's most perplexing unsolved cases.

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In this episode, we explore the sinister shift in the Zodiac killer's methods during the daylight attack on Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard beside the tranquil yet foreboding shores of Lake Berryessa. This encounter, marked by the killer's transition to a more personal and horrifying mode of assault, unveils the chilling audacity of a murderer willing to confront his victims face-to-face. As the episode unfolds, the narrative captures the initial bliss of the victims' day out, spiraling into the terror that ensues when they realize they're not alone.

The aftermath focuses on Bryan Hartnell's miraculous survival and the critical information he provides, offering a rare insight into the Zodiac's psyche. The episode is further enriched by a haunting anecdote about three young women who unknowingly escaped a potential encounter with the Zodiac earlier that day. Through a blend of suspenseful storytelling and detailed analysis, the episode not only delves into the horror inflicted by the Zodiac but also highlights the eerie courage and calculated preparation behind one of history's most elusive serial killers, leaving listeners pondering the depth of his malice.

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In this harrowing episode of Foul Play, we delve into the bone-chilling Lake Berryessa attack by the enigmatic Zodiac Killer. Late September 1969, amidst the serene backdrop of Lake Berryessa's sprawling waters in California, a young couple's peaceful day turns into a nightmare. The Zodiac, craving attention and control, executes one of his most brutal assaults, stabbing and leaving them for dead. The attack sends shockwaves through the local community and law enforcement, escalating the urgency to capture this elusive predator. Our narrative reconstructs the events of that fateful day, drawing from firsthand accounts, police reports, and the Zodiac's own cryptic communications, immersing listeners into the depth of this terrifying mystery.

The episode not only recounts the physical aftermath of the attack but also the emotional and societal ripples it created. The detailed investigation, led by determined detectives, unravels amidst a backdrop of fear and fascination with the Zodiac's macabre game of cat and mouse. As the story unfolds, the tragic loss of Cecelia Shepard, the resilience of Bryan Hartnell, and the relentless pursuit of justice by Napa County police paint a vivid picture of a community united in the face of horror. Through meticulous research and gripping storytelling, this episode of Foul Play brings to light the Zodiac's reign of terror at Lake Berryessa, offering insights into the investigation and the lasting impact of these heinous crimes.

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Dive into the chilling world of The Zodiac, the elusive predator who terrorized Northern California in the late 1960s. With five confirmed victims and a claim of thirty-seven, his taunting letters, cryptic ciphers, and menacing calls left an indelible mark of fear.

This season on Foul Play: Crime Series, The Zodiac takes you on a dark journey through the killer's mind and the decades-long quest to uncover his identity. From the detectives on his trail to the cryptographers decoding his messages, we explore every facet of the case that continues to fascinate and horrify.

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In this gripping episode we focus on the chilling events surrounding the first Zodiac letters and ciphers sent by this enigmatic murderer. July 1969 marked not just a monumental achievement in human history with the moon landing but also a dark period in California's history as fear gripped the communities of Benicia and Vallejo.

The Zodiac's brutal attacks on young couples, his cold and calculated demeanor, and the mysterious phone call to the Vallejo Police Department declaring responsibility for these horrifying acts set the stage for a terrifying game of cat and mouse. As we unravel the twisted mind behind these crimes, the episode takes a deeper look into the killer's desire for attention and control, shedding light on his cryptic messages to the press and the police.

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In this chilling episode we delve into the harrowing night of July 4th, 1969, when the city of Vallejo, California, became the backdrop for a devastating attack by the infamous Zodiac Killer. As the festive atmosphere of Independence Day faded, Darlene Ferrin and Michael Mageau found themselves in the serene setting of Blue Rock Springs Park, unaware of the horror that awaited them. This episode meticulously reconstructs the events leading up to the shooting, painting a vivid picture of a peaceful night turned nightmare. Through details and analysis, we explore the immediate aftermath of the attack, the emergency response, and the cryptic call that linked this act of violence to the Zodiac's reign of terror.

The investigation unfolds with gripping detail as we follow the law enforcement response to the Blue Rock Springs attack, the painstaking efforts of medical personnel to save the victims, and the subsequent police work that connected this brutal shooting to the Zodiac Killer's series of crimes.

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...1 historic steam train...

...9 exceptional true crime podcasts...

...9 tales woven with the spirit of Women's Day...

...Will YOU unravel the mysteries aboard?

This International Women's Day, join Shane Waters and Wendy Cee on an unprecedented journey through the heart of England to Crimecon UK in London. Mysteries on the True Crime Express is not just a podcast episode; it's an immersive voyage into the depths of true crime, history, and the indomitable spirit of women.

Aboard this old-world locomotive, you'll encounter the hosts of 9 distinguished true crime podcasts, including Shane and Wendy of Foul Play: Crime Series. Each host presents a captivating story that not only chills the spine but also illuminates the historical essence of Women's Day. From the comfort of Shane and Wendy's compartment to the lively ambiance of the dining car, each tale unfolds in a unique setting on the train, adding layers of intrigue and ambiance to this auditory experience.

So, secure your ticket and settle into your seat...

...but be forewarned...

...the journey ahead is filled with twists and turns.

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  2. The Trail Went Cold
  3. The Cult Vault
  4. Extinguished
  5. Once Upon a Crime
  6. True Crime and Wine with Sherrilyn Dale
  7. Defense Diaries
  8. Dip in and Out with Lucy
  9. Foul Play: Crime Series

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Hello friend. This week we delve into the enigmatic and terrifying world of the Zodiac Killer, a murderer whose identity remains a mystery to this day. This episode transports listeners back to the late 1960s in Northern California, where the Zodiac Killer commenced his infamous killing spree. With a keen focus on the first confirmed attacks on Betty Lou Jensen and David Faraday, we set the stage for a series that promises to explore the depths of one of the most bewildering true crime stories in American history. The meticulous recounting of the initial crimes, combined with a comprehensive overview of the subsequent investigation, provides a solid foundation for understanding the complexity and brutality of the Zodiac Killer's modus operandi.

As we navigate through the episode, listeners will immerse themselves in the chilling narrative, enriched with detailed descriptions of the crime scenes, the killer's cryptic messages to the police and media, and the palpable fear that gripped the communities affected by these heinous acts. This series aims not only to shed light on the facts of the case but also to explore the psychological and societal impact of the Zodiac Killer's reign of terror. By leveraging a combination of historical research, expert interviews, and a storytelling approach that emphasizes the human elements of this tragic saga, this series endeavors to provide a comprehensive and engaging exploration of one of true crime's most haunting mysteries.

Join us as we attempt to unravel the enigma of the Zodiac Killer, examining the clues left behind in a quest for answers that have eluded investigators for decades.

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In this episode, we unravel the decades-long mystery surrounding the disappearance of Aundria Bowman and the interconnected web of crimes committed by Dennis Bowman. This journey takes us through a chilling narrative of amateur sleuths Cathy Terkanian and Carl Koppelman, whose tireless investigation exposes a sinister pattern of violence hidden beneath the facade of an ordinary family life. The discovery of a concrete slab in the garden of Bowman's property becomes a pivotal moment, leading to a series of revelations that would ultimately bring closure to multiple unsolved cases.

The episode also delves into the harrowing tale of Peggy Johnson, whose tragic fate was intertwined with Bowman's history of abuse and murder. With the aid of DNA technology and genealogical research, authorities are finally able to connect the dots, resulting in Bowman's arrest for crimes spanning across states and decades. This story is not just about the pursuit of justice; it's a testament to the perseverance of those who refuse to let the truth remain buried. Through detailed investigative work and a bit of serendipity, Cathy and Carl’s efforts highlight the impact of dedicated individuals in solving crimes that had long been consigned to cold case files.

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In this second installment of Just Family Busines, the focus narrows on the enigmatic disappearance of Aundria Bowman in 1989. With the advent of social media, new avenues open for investigation, leading Cathy Terkanian and Carl Koppelman to challenge the deceptive calm surrounding Dennis Bowman, Aundria's adoptive father. Their relentless pursuit uncovers a disturbing trail of past transgressions, linking Dennis to a series of allegations and cold cases that reveal a pattern of violent behavior meticulously hidden behind the facade of normalcy.

As the investigation intensifies, the narrative unfolds revealing a complex web of deceit, abuse, and manipulation. The determination of Cathy and Carl brings to light shocking revelations about the man who posed as a devoted family man, as they edge closer to the truth about Aundria's fate. This episode of the series is a testament to the power of perseverance and the quest for justice, as it navigates through the dark secrets of a seemingly average family, exposing the monstrous reality lurking beneath. Join us in piecing together a decades-spanning puzzle, where every discovery moves us closer to solving a deeply haunting mystery.Support our podcast by becoming a patron.

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In the gripping season opener of Season 32, Just Family Business, we embark on a chilling journey through a decades-old mystery. Episode 1 introduces us to a seemingly ordinary family caught in an extraordinary and sinister predicament. The disappearance of Aundria Bowman unravels a tapestry of secrets, deceit, and a cold case that refused to die. As amateur sleuths and unexpected twists bring us closer to a disturbing truth, this three-part saga promises to delve deep into the heart of darkness that lies beneath the facade of just family business. Join us as we peel back the layers of a story where hope battles despair and the quest for truth confronts the specter of the past. This is more than a tale of crime; it's a profound exploration of family, loss, and the relentless pursuit of justice.

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In this episode, recorded as 2022 drew to a close, Shane and Gemma are joined in Maryland by Catherine Rentz, a seasoned journalist and producer from Maryland. Also present is, John Benam, the esteemed Director of Photography known for his work on "The Keepers."

Catherine Rentz takes us deep into the heart of a story that unravels like a tapestry of mystery against the backdrop of 1970s Maryland. At the center of this narrative is a doctor whose meticulous preservation of evidence from sex crimes forms a crucial bridge to solving cold cases that seemed forever lost to time. His extraordinary collection, meticulously cataloged on microscope slides and glass tubes, harbors DNA evidence vital to cracking cases of 'stranger rape' and other heinous crimes, many of which had their original evidence tragically destroyed or mishandled.

Through Catherine's eyes, we delve into her investigative journey, uncovering the significance of this unparalleled collection and its pivotal role in the pursuit of justice.

This episode does not shy away from the darker corners of human history and the search for truth. We discuss the chilling indifference and alleged complicity of Police in a massive pedophile ring orchestrated by Father Maskell, highlighting the pressing need for transparency and external oversight in the DNA testing process.

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In the gripping conclusion of our two-part series on the Vanishing Blonde, we delve deeper into the mysterious disappearance and subsequent investigation of Inna Budnystska. Private investigator Ken Brennan's relentless pursuit leads him down a path filled with twists, turns, and an unexpected suspect. With meticulous analysis and a keen eye for detail, Brennan uncovers shocking evidence that challenges initial perceptions and highlights the complexities of seeking justice.

Listeners are invited to join us on this compelling journey as we uncover the layers of a case that captivated the nation.

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In Episode 1 of The Vanishing Blonde, a two-part series on Foul Play, we delve into the chilling and perplexing case of Inna Budnystska. Discovered in a Floridian construction site, Inna, a 21-year-old Ukrainian woman, is found beaten, bloodied, and with no memory of the traumatic events that led to her state. As she regains consciousness in a hospital, her fragmented recollections and the severe injuries she sustained paint a horrifying picture of assault and abandonment. The episode unravels the complexities of Inna's life, her work on a cruise ship, and her stay at the Airport Regency Hotel, where she alleges the attack took place.

The investigation intensifies as detectives explore Inna's claims and the hotel's security footage, uncovering a web of unanswered questions and suspicious details. Private investigator Ken Brennan's involvement adds a new dimension to the case, challenging conventional theories and prompting a deeper analysis of the evidence. The episode navigates through the intricate maze of the investigation, exploring potential motives, suspects, and the elusive truth behind Inna's harrowing experience.

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Tina’s murderer or murderers have never been found, in this episode we go through the suspects and the theories.

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After disappearing from her night shift at a Little Crickets convenience store in Anderson County, Tina’s body was found dumped just off Highway I-85 the following day.

But what had happened to Tina Milford, and why?

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In this episode, Shane and Gemma dive into a new twist in the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. They are joined by Ronnie Norpel, whose parents were friends with Gerry Koob, a Jesuit priest who was close to Sister Cathy and a person of interest in the case. Ronnie shares her shocking allegations against Koob, and reveals how he often brought Sister Cathy to her parents' house. What secrets did Koob and Sister Cathy share, and how are they connected to the dark web of corruption and cover-ups that surrounded her death?

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Tina Milford went missing from her night shift in Little Cricket convenience store, Anderson County, on the 254 June 1983, leaving behind her shoes, her purse and her car.

Her parents were convinced that Tina would not just leave her job for no reason, the police agreed.

What happened to Tina Milford?

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In Episode 3 of The Darknet Assassin, the focus shifts to the aftermath of Amy Allwine's murder and the broader implications of the darknet's murder-for-hire schemes. The episode delves into the arrest and trial of Stephen Allwine, revealing his intricate web of deceit and the damning digital evidence that led to his conviction. Listeners are taken through the twists and turns of the trial, including Stephen's repeated attempts to maintain his innocence against overwhelming evidence.

Simultaneously, the episode explores the efforts of Chris Monteiro, a cyber-sleuth, in unraveling the operations of Besa Mafia and its successor sites. Monteiro's investigation exposes the alarming reality of these platforms and the potential real-world consequences of their activities. His efforts, fraught with personal risk and ethical dilemmas, highlight the complexities of battling online criminal networks. The narrative weaves together these parallel stories, showcasing the disturbing interplay between virtual crimes and their tragic outcomes in the real world.

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In Episode 2 of "The Darknet Assassin," we delve deeper into the unsettling case of Amy Allwine, a mother and active community member found dead in her Minnesota home. The investigation uncovers her idyllic life as a devout churchgoer, dog trainer, and family woman, which contrasts sharply with the dark revelation of a murder-for-hire plot against her. As the FBI and local police become involved, we explore the disturbing details of the Besa Mafia website, where an anonymous user, "Dogdaygod," orchestrated a sinister plan to eliminate Amy.

The episode further reveals the intricate and alarming communications between "Dogdaygod" and the admin of Besa Mafia, outlining various murder methods and transactions. Amy's life takes a harrowing turn upon learning about these threats, leading to increased security measures at home. However, the plot thickens with the mysterious circumstances surrounding Amy's death, challenging the initial assumption of suicide. As new evidence comes to light, suspicions and theories abound, drawing listeners into a complex web of deceit, betrayal, and the dark underbelly of the internet.

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Step into the enigmatic realm of the dark web in this gripping episode, where the eerie tale of the Darknet Assassin unfolds. This journey takes you deep into the heart of the internet's shadowy corners, a place where anonymity breeds nefarious activities, and the concept of a murder-for-hire service becomes a disturbing reality. We dissect the perplexing and often deceptive world of dark web marketplaces, unraveling how they operate under a veil of secrecy and the impact they have on their unwitting victims.

As the narrative progresses, listeners are introduced to the intricate web of characters involved – from the operators of these sinister sites to the law enforcement agents tirelessly working to bring them down. We explore the chilling cases linked to these platforms, where the line between an elaborate scam and genuine criminal intent is alarmingly thin. The episode meticulously pieces together the puzzle, revealing the dark side of human nature and the digital age's new face of crime.

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In this gripping episode, Shane delves into a harrowing and sobering topic: the extensive report by the Attorney General on child sexual abuse within the Archdiocese of Baltimore. With a meticulous approach, he reads and analyzes key sections of the report, shedding light on the distressing findings and the systemic failures that allowed such abuses to persist. The episode navigates through the intricate web of cover-ups, the indelible impact on victims, and the response (or lack thereof) from the church hierarchy.

As Shane explores the report, he not only focuses on the facts and figures but also humanizes the narrative by discussing the real-world implications and emotional toll of these revelations. The episode, though challenging, is essential listening for those who seek to understand the depth of this crisis and the ongoing quest for justice and healing.

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In this thought-provoking episode of Foul Play, hosts Gemma and Shane delve into the profound implications of the Maryland Attorney General's recent report on clergy abuse. Joined by advocate and paralegal Mary Beth and survivor Kim, the episode offers an in-depth analysis of the report's findings and its impact on the ongoing struggle of survivors.

Listeners will be drawn into a heart-rending discussion about how the report sheds light on the traumatic experiences of abuse survivors and the steps taken by the Archdiocese of Baltimore in response to these revelations. The conversation critically examines the Archdiocese's decision to file for bankruptcy, exploring how this move affects the survivors and their quest for justice.

Throughout the episode, Gemma, Shane, and their guests navigate the emotional landscapes of both survivors and the accused. This episode is more than just a recounting of events; it serves as a resonant call to action, encouraging survivors to come forward and demand accountability from the Archdiocese. This episode is a poignant tribute to Sister Cathy and a powerful voice for those who have been silenced, making it an essential listen for anyone seeking to understand this tragic and unresolved story.

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In the gripping final installment of The Phantom Killer of Texarkana, Part 3 on Foul Play: Crime Series, we delve into the heart of darkness that engulfed the small town of Texarkana. This episode takes you on a chilling journey through the twisted paths and dead ends of one of history's most baffling and terrifying unsolved mysteries.

As the community reels under the shadow of a ruthless killer, we explore the intricate web of suspects, the psychological profile of the murderer, and the haunting impact of these crimes on the town and its people. The line between myth and reality blurs as we scrutinize each clue and lead, unveiling the complex layers of this enigmatic case.

Join us as we traverse the murky waters of fear, suspicion, and intrigue, shedding light on the various theories and suspects that emerged during the investigation. From the chilling modus operandi of the killer to the numerous suspects who captured the public's imagination, we dive deep into the psyche of the elusive Phantom. As we edge closer to the conclusion, the question remains: who was the real Phantom Killer? This episode promises to keep you on the edge of your seat, offering insights that challenge what we think we know about the darkest corners of human nature.

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In this suspenseful second episode of the Foul Play: Crime Series podcast titled "The Phantom Killer of Texarkana, Part 2," we delve deeper into the harrowing tale of a series of brutal attacks that terrorized the small town of Texarkana in 1946. This episode takes you through the unnerving investigation and the scant evidence that baffled authorities. As the town grapples with fear, we explore the unique challenges posed by Texarkana's geographical location and its impact on law enforcement efforts.

Witness how the community's reaction to these crimes ranged from extreme vigilance to paralyzing fear, with families resorting to extraordinary measures for safety. We recount the grisly details of each attack, from the lovers' lanes to an isolated farmhouse, and examine the aftermath of this chilling spree. The episode offers a deep dive into the law enforcement's struggles with limited forensic capabilities and the complexities of inter-state policing, providing insights into the psychological and societal impact of the Phantom's reign of terror.

As we unravel the intricate layers of this dark chapter in Texarkana's history, "The Phantom Killer of Texarkana, Part 2" is not just a recounting of events but a journey into the heart of a community forever changed by fear and uncertainty. For true crime enthusiasts seeking an immersive experience into one of America’s most haunting mysteries, this episode promises to be a compelling and thought-provoking listen.

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In the premiere episode of this Season on The Phantom Killer of Texarkana, we travel back to the year 1946. The small, tranquil city of Texarkana is caught in the grip of terror as a masked predator known as the Phantom Killer emerges, leaving a trail of unspeakable crimes in the moonless night. From lovers' lanes to the quiet of a home, no place is safe from the Phantom's reach. This episode takes listeners through the haunting events as they unfolded—from the first attacks on unsuspecting couples to the chilling home invasion that left the community paralyzed with fear.

Join us as we piece together the horrifying details of the Phantom's brutal assaults and murders, diving into a series of crimes that remain unsolved to this day. We explore the anguish and chaos that ensued, the eerie silence of a predator who vanished as mysteriously as he appeared, and the relentless pursuit for justice by the authorities, Texas Rangers, and FBI.

Foul Play brings to life the dark shadow that fell over Texarkana. Stay tuned for the shocking twists, the cloud of paranoia, and the legacy of fear that the Phantom Killer left behind. Will the identity of the masked murderer ever be revealed, or will he remain an enigma, lurking in the annals of true crime mystery? Tune in to find out.

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Episode 2 continues the grim saga of the murderous spree that plagued the Tuscan countryside. This installment plunges into the labyrinth of the investigation's most turbulent years. We examine the pressure-cooker environment of the 1980s, where the local police's frantic search for the Monster led to several wrongful arrests that cast a long shadow of doubt over the law enforcement's competence.

The episode dissects the case of Enzo Spalletti, whose wrongful accusation and subsequent exoneration underscored the investigation's flaws. As the narrative unfolds, we encounter Francesco Vinci, another man caught in the investigation's dragnet, painting a picture of an inquiry fraught with desperation and hasty conclusions. The series reveals the scandalous media circus and the public's macabre fascination with the satanic cult theories, adding layers of complexity to an already intricate case.

Listeners are taken on a journey through the twists and turns of evidence and hearsay that led to Pietro Pacciani's conviction—and the shocking reversal that followed. We close with a sobering reflection on the unsolved mystery that remains, pondering the true identity of the Monster and the fate that befell the accused. As the episode concludes, we are left with more questions than answers, keeping the terrifying legacy of the Monster of Florence alive in the collective memory.


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In the first episode of "Foul Play: Crime Series" titled "The Monster of Florence," we unmask the horrors lurking in the idyllic Tuscan hills. The story begins on a gruesome note with the discovery of Antonio Lo Bianco and Barbara Locci, marking the onset of a series of brutal slayings between 1968 and 1985. This episode probes into the killer's calculated strikes on unsuspecting couples in secluded spots, culminating in chilling surgical mutilations that perplexed investigators and instilled terror in the heart of Florence.

As we trace the sequence of these cold-blooded crimes, the episode reveals the Monster's twisted modus operandi, the palpable fear that swept through Tuscany, and the intense media frenzy that followed. With each account, we attempt to penetrate the psyche of the enigmatic killer and his possible motivations, ranging from sadistic pleasure to cult involvement or a vendetta against romance.

The episode also explores the futile attempts to capture the elusive killer, whose crimes spanned nearly two decades, ceasing as abruptly as they began with no definitive conclusion. Listeners will be left with haunting questions about the nature of evil and the persistence of unsolved mysteries that still overshadow the beautiful Tuscan landscape. Join us as we dive deep into the dark history of The Monster of Florence, in a tale of murder, mystery, and the relentless quest for answers.


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In this special episode of "Foul Play: Crime Series," recorded live from Crimecon in Glasgow, we're excited to sit down with the formidable Jo Millington, a forensic scientist with over 25 years of experience. Jo will guide us through her incredible journey—from her early days in Scotland, specializing in Bloodstain Pattern Analysis (BPA), to working on high-profile cases in London's Forensic Science Service and her own consultancy. She'll also discuss her impactful work with Inside Justice, a charity focused on investigating potential miscarriages of justice. As we delve into the complex world of forensics, Jo will share insights on how science plays a critical role in solving crimes and even correcting wrongful convictions. Fans of popular crime dramas are also in for a treat, as Jo peels back the curtain on her role as a forensic advisor for TV shows like 'Silent Witness.' Whether you're a true-crime aficionado or just intrigued by the science that solves crimes, this episode promises to be a riveting exploration of the forensics field. If you want to learn moare about Blood Pattern Analysis, head over to Jo’s page and enter FOULPLAY50 at checkout for a whopping 50% discount. There also some free resources on Jo’s website. (Please note that the discount is only available to the first 50 people to sign up, so don’t wait or you might miss out) Here are more resources:

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...1 eerie corn maze...
...9 haunting figures...
...9 spine-tingling tales...
...Will YOU find your way out? This holiday season, step into a labyrinth of shadows and suspense with Shane Waters as your guide. In this chilling collaboration, you'll encounter the hosts of 9 acclaimed true crime podcasts, each offering a dark tale and a life lesson to send shivers down your spine. This is not just a special episode; it's an immersive journey through a maze of twisted paths and unsolved mysteries. So, lift your lantern high and venture into 'Maze of Secrets'...
 ...but be warned...
 ...not everyone makes it to the end… Prepare to get lost in the stories, but find yourself in their lessons. It's an odyssey of crime, mystery, and eerie life lessons that you won't soon forget. This is Shane’s 5th holiday collaboration. If you dare to walk this twisted path with us, you're in for a night you'll never forget. Are you ready? Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

  1. Frightful
  2. Marooned
  3. Rotten to the Core
  4. Murder, She Told
  5. Obscura
  6. Crimelines
  7. Once Upon a Crime
  8. The Trail Went Cold
  9. Foul Play: Crime Series
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Who Stands to Gain? The Complex Web of Archdiocesan Bankruptcies and Sister Cathy’s Unsolved Murder. After funneling an extensive amount of resources into fighting against survivors in Maryland to preserve the statute of limitations, the Archdiocese of Baltimore has now opened a new legal front—filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

Astoundingly, the archdiocese seems willing to spend millions more in legal and court fees to essentially carve out their own type of statute of limitations, a privilege that bankruptcy can afford them. This unsettling move is not unique to Baltimore; it's part of a wider pattern with 30 other archdioceses across the United States following suit.

As this unfolds, Shane Waters and Gemma Hoskins reunite in Episode 87 of Foul Play: Crime Series to continue their dedicated investigation into who killed Sister Cathy. Kicking off Season 2 back in September 2018, we've now arrived at a critical juncture that compels us to ask: Who had the most to gain from Sister Cathy's tragic death? In this episode, listeners will be guided through the labyrinthine world of bankruptcy filings, legal strategies, and the disturbing lengths to which these religious institutions are willing to go to avoid accountability.

The timing of these bankruptcy filings is not coincidental; it has the potential to thwart ongoing investigations and silence survivors indefinitely. Shane and Gemma dig deep into the financial intricacies and legal loopholes that these archdioceses are exploiting. Alongside this, they also scrutinize the possible connections between Sister Cathy's unsolved murder and the powerful entities now using bankruptcy as a shield.

As financial power plays become a focal point, this episode doesn't just scratch the surface; it delves deep into the complex machinations that could be hiding the truth behind Sister Cathy's murder. Don’t miss this compelling episode that seeks to unravel the complex tapestry of legal and moral questions surrounding one of the most puzzling cold cases in Maryland. Your engagement and thirst for the truth are what make this work possible. Subscribe, share, and stay vigilant as we continue to seek answers and justice. Thank you for being a part of this journey.

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In this gripping episode the courtroom becomes the stage as we recount the trial and sentencing of Robert Ben Rhoades, the notorious Truck Stop Killer. The episode unravels the intense legal battle that ensued following Rhoades's arrest. From the prosecution's demand for the death penalty to the defense's attempts to downplay the atrocities, we explore the intricate details of a trial that held the rapt attention of a community seeking closure.

Listeners will hear of the monstrous crimes recounted in testimonies, the disturbing evidence presented by the state, and the defendant's audacious attempts to challenge his sentencing. The episode dramatizes the trial's most poignant moments, including the harrowing accounts of Rhoades’s victims and the emotional turmoil of the families affected. We also scrutinize Rhoades's manipulative legal maneuvers post-conviction, which added to the anguish of those left in the wake of his violence.

This episode not only captures the culmination of Rhoades's legal proceedings but also reflects on the broader implications of his case. It's a story of justice's complex machinery, the pursuit of truth, and the resilience of a community scarred by senseless brutality. As the series progresses, it promises to keep the memory of the victims alive and honor the relentless spirit of those who worked to ensure that such evil does not walk free.

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Episode 2 on the Truck Stop Killer season intensifies as we explore the depths of Robert Ben Rhoades's depravity. This episode recounts the chilling breakthrough in the case when a state trooper's routine check turned into a rescue of a chained, tortured victim from Rhoades's truck. The discovery unearthed Rhoades's horrifying double life as a long-haul trucker and a sadistic predator, with his 18-wheeler doubling as a mobile torture chamber.

Listeners will hear how Rhoades was linked to unsolved murders and missing person cases, his personal history with the Houston BDSM scene, and the sinister evidence found in his apartment. The episode also details the heartbreaking story of Regina Walters, one of Rhoades's victims, whose life and tragic end were documented through Rhoades's own photographs.

The episode further examines how close calls and narrow escapes of potential victims aided the investigation, with personal accounts adding emotional depth to the narrative. As detectives and the FBI untangled the dark thread of Rhoades's acts, the story captures the clash between the search for truth and the struggle for justice.

The description sets up the anticipation for the next episode, promising a focus on the trial and sentencing of Rhoades, and the unresolved questions that torment the victims' families. It's a harrowing journey through the impact of Rhoades's crimes and the search for closure in one of the most disturbing cases of serial murder in America.

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In Episode 1 we delve into the grim story of Robert Ben Rhoades, whose reign of terror along the American highways during the late '70s and '80s culminated in the nightmarish transformation of his 18-wheeler into a chamber of horrors. This episode recounts the harrowing escape of his would-be victim, Shana Holts, and the subsequent complacency of law enforcement that allowed Rhoades to continue his murderous spree.

Listeners will be taken through a chilling narrative that includes Rhoades's beginnings, from his unsettled childhood marked by his father's suicide to his drift into the world of long-haul trucking, where he found an outlet for his sadistic impulses. The episode paints a sinister portrait of Rhoades's life, revealing the disturbing duality of his existence and his ventures into the underground scenes that possibly fed his cruel fantasies.

As the episode unfolds, we learn of the tragic fate of Regina Kay Walters, the young girl whose brutal end was discovered in a secluded barn, and the close call that led to the capture of Rhoades, as recounted by an Arizona Highway Patrol Trooper. The description leads up to the anticipation of further investigation into the depth of Rhoades's crimes in the following episode, promising more insights into the exhaustive efforts to bring him to justice. This account serves as a stark reminder of the vulnerability of those who cross paths with such hidden predators.


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This is the second episode in our series on the mysterious murder of 24-year-old Phoebe Handsjuk. In the last episode, we learned about how Phoebe Handsjuk died and the conflicting theories surrounding her demise. Despite the police's conclusion that it was an accidental death caused by Phoebe's drunken state, her grandfather, Lorne Campbell, a retired police detective, believed that foul play was involved.

The medical examiner and Coroner's reports and suggestions raised more questions than answers, leaving the case unsolved. Some can't help but feel that the examiner and Coroner had something to hide, only because they were adamant about letting the court know of Phoebe's drinking habits and shady past, perhaps in an attempt to protect someone. But who?

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In the darkest recesses of the human psyche lies an insatiable curiosity for the bizarre and the unexplained… a desire to peer behind the veil of the ordinary and uncover the secrets that hide just beneath the surface.

These strange and confounding cases ignite the imagination and send shivers down the spine as we struggle to comprehend the sinister forces within our seemingly familiar world.

And those are the cases we dive into here on Foul Play. And while we usually cover some old unsolved cases, today we're going to discuss a fairly recent case that has completely vexed true crime fans and detectives alike.

This is the story of Phoebe Handsjuk, a 24 year old Australian girl who found herself in a strange, strange situation.

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In our previous episode, we discussed the death of Mary Cecilia Rogers, famously known as The Beautiful Cigar Girl, in 1841. In this episode, we will delve deeper into the investigation of her death, the various theories surrounding it, and the haunting legacy of her story.

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In the shadowy corners of human creativity, where imagination and reality intersect, the mysterious figure of the muse has long been a guiding force. Some artists find inspiration in fleeting glimpses of beauty, while others find it in the depths of darkness and despair. For renowned writer Edgar Allan Poe, a master of the macabre, it was the tragic tale of the Beautiful Cigar Girl that sparked a fire within his haunted soul.

New York City, 1841. Beneath the gaslit cobblestone streets, a gripping tale of intrigue and suspense was unfolding. It was a story that would make headlines across the nation, casting an eerie light on the city's burgeoning underworld. In the heart of this Gothic metropolis, a young woman named Mary Rogers captured the public's imagination with her striking beauty and tragic fate.

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Tinseltown shines just enough to blind you from the horrors that go on behind the curtains. This is episode 2 in our series on the murder of Thelma Todd, a celebrated comedic actress, and businesswoman who was found dead in a car in her lover's garage.

‌Could it have been Jewel Carmen, the lover's wife, who learned about his affair? Or could it have been the lover himself, Roland West? Or… could it have been suicide?

‌We dive deeper into the lives of the old Hollywood stars in this episode.

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The 1920s and 1930s were the golden age of Hollywood, a time of glitz and glamour, where movie stars were treated like royalty. But amidst all the glitter and fame, there was a dark side to the movie industry, a side that often saw stars fall from grace and suffer tragic ends.

Thelma Todd was a shining star of the silver screen, known for her comedic chops and stunning beauty. She was the epitome of the old Hollywood glamour, but her life was far from a fairy tale. On the morning of December 16th, 1935, Thelma was found dead in her car, parked in a garage. The cause of death was ruled as carbon monoxide poisoning, but to this day, the circumstances surrounding her death remain shrouded in mystery.

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This is episode 3 of the Hall-Mills Murder story. Be sure to listen to episodes 1 and 2, where we learn about Edward Wheeler Hall and Eleanor Mills and uncover deeper details of their love affair and families. As the clock struck 12, the imposing figures of the officers could be seen marching towards the door of Frances Hall's secluded mansion. Tension filled the air as they prepared to place the most powerful woman in town under arrest for the brutal murder of Edward Hall and Eleanor Mills.

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This is episode 2 of the Hall-Mills Murder tragedy. Be sure to listen to episode 1, where we learn about the victims, Edward Wheeler Hall and his lover, Eleanor Mills. The Hall-Mills murder mystery of the 1920s is a tale of scandal, tragedy, and intrigue that has captivated the public for decades. On a fateful September night in 1922, two innocent bystanders stumbled upon a gruesome scene while on a romantic stroll down a secluded lover's lane. What they saw would haunt them for the rest of their lives.

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Mystery, Intrigue, Tragedy, Scandal. These are the themes that embody the most notorious crime of the 1920s - the Hall-Mills murder mystery. On a dark, moonless night in September of 1922, a couple named Raymond Schlender and Pearl Bahmer, lost in the moment, strolled down a secluded lover's lane. But little did they know their romantic walk in the dark would soon turn into the stuff of nightmares.

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This is episode 2 of the McMartin preschool trials, and it contains mentions of the sexual abuse of minors. We recommend proceeding with caution. Judy Johnson's outcry about the abuse her son faced in the McMartin preschool launched investigations countrywide into other daycares, with numbers going up to 200 and teachers getting arrested with little to no evidence. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

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The McMartin pre-school trial was one of the most infamous and controversial child sexual abuse cases in American history. The case, which began in 1983, involved allegations of widespread abuse and satanic rituals at the McMartin pre-school in Manhattan Beach, California. This series on Foul Play will discuss difficult themes of sexual abuse and pedophilia. We recommend proceeding with caution. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

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This is episode 4 in our Murder at Lake Waco series. A trigger warning for our listeners: this series contains gruesome depictions of murders and mentions of sexual assault. This episode looks at the trial proceedings of the Lake Waco murder case, which will reveal troublesome details about the night of April 1982. We advise proceeding with caution.

In a shivering hand, David Spence scrawled a chilling account of a conversation that had taken place between Deeb and himself. It was June of 1982, Spence claimed, when Deeb posed the question, 'Would you kill someone for 5 thousand dollars?' Spence had answered in the affirmative.

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Gayle Kelley was no fan of policemen, but she was less a fan of Lucky Deeb, her former employer, who had just admitted to killing Kenneth Franks, Jill Montgomery, and Raylene Rice in the wooded area around Lake Waco. Though he brushed it off as a joke, Gayle didn't believe him. She saw the look in his eyes and knew she was looking at a killer.

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Sergeant Truman Simons stood silently, staring down at the lifeless body of the young girl. Her long, dark brown hair was a stark contrast to the still-shiny gold necklace that hung around her neck, the chain now broken and partially embedded in the wound. She had been gagged with her own blouse, and her hands were tied behind her back with a strip of cloth.

The officer could tell that she had been dead for some time, with ants and pillbugs already crawling over her bloodstained body and flies having laid their eggs in her nasal cavities.

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"I want you to understand… I speak the truth when I say I didn't kill your kids. I have not killed anyone." These were the last words of the alleged murdered before the executioners filled his chamber with toxic chemicals and his heart… stopped beating. We rewind back to a quiet Monday afternoon in 1982. 18-year-old Kenneth Franks stood at his window, waiting for his friends to arrive. Jill had just called to tell him she'd be in the area to pick up her paycheque from work, so she'd be free to hang out for a few hours. Her friend Raylene Rice would be with her, and they could all go down to Koehne Park with a few burgers and watch the sunset. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online.

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[Part 2] This Mother’s Day, join Shane Waters on a chilling adventure featuring 14 podcasters as they share sinister stories of motherhood. Mother’s Day is typically a time to honor the love and sacrifices of mothers, but today we’ll be exploring the twisted tales that lurk behind the shadows. 

It’s an extra special, two parts, more than two-hour, Mother’s Day event. 

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Part 1:

  1. Foul Play: Crime Series
  2. Music City 911
  3. Crimes from the East 
  4. Cults, Crimes, Cabernet 
  5. A Nefarious Nightmare 
  6. Crimelines 
  7. The Asian Madness Podcast 
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  1. Once Upon A Crime 
  2. PNW Haunts & Homicides
  3. The Trail Went Cold 
  4. Coffee & Cases
  5. Already Gone 
  6. Twisted and Uncorked 
  7. Mystery Inc 

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This Mother’s Day, join Shane Waters on a chilling adventure featuring 14 podcasters as they share sinister stories of motherhood. Mother’s Day is typically a time to honor the love and sacrifices of mothers, but today we’ll be exploring the twisted tales that lurk behind the shadows. 

It’s an extra special, two parts, more than two-hour, Mother’s Day event. 

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

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  1. Foul Play: Crime Series
  2. Music City 911
  3. Crimes from the East 
  4. Cults, Crimes, Cabernet 
  5. A Nefarious Nightmare 
  6. Crimelines 
  7. The Asian Madness Podcast 
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  1. Once Upon A Crime 
  2. PNW Haunts & Homicides
  3. The Trail Went Cold 
  4. Coffee & Cases
  5. Already Gone 
  6. Twisted and Uncorked 
  7. Mystery Inc 

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Joseph Orton did it, something he told himself he would never do. Shoot a man to kill, in order to please his lover. John’s words still echoing in his mind after he pulled the trigger. “Oh Lord!” Joseph jolted back a few steps before slipping on the roof of the shed. He dropped his rifle and fell to the ground beside it. He took a moment to make sure he wasn’t injured, grabbed his rifle and ran off into the woods. He needed to get rid of the rifle as fast as he could. Earlier that day he had stowed away his coat, a bundle and his boots near the northwest corner of the property. He did this as he knew he boot prints would be recognized.

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Welcome back to the Foul Play Podcast. I’m sure many of you are wondering. If this is the Confession of Jesse Strang, when does he appear? I promise, it will all become clear as this series continues. We last left off with Joseph Orton agreeing to write Elsie Whipple a letter. Which left him confused as to what her motive was. Did she want a letter because she had mutual feelings for him? Or was it a ploy, to get him in trouble with her husband and have him removed from Cherry Hill?

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Welcome to another riveting episode of Foul Play: Crime Series. In this three-part series, we explore the tragic story of Joseph Orton, a man whose life took a dark turn when he encountered the enigmatic Elsie Whipple. In part one, we dive into the fateful events that led to their meeting and the beginning of the end for Joseph Orton. Join us as we unravel the intricate web of deceit, love, and obsession that led to one of the most notorious crimes of the 19th century.

Stay tuned for Part 2, where we further uncover the shocking confession of Jesse Strang and the tragic consequences of his actions. Immerse yourself in this tale of passion and betrayal in this episode of Foul Play: Crime Series.

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This Easter, join Shane Waters on a whimsical adventure featuring 13 podcasters as they share true stories of con artists and fake deaths. Delve into the magical world of the Enchanted Easterlands, where you’ll encounter peculiar characters and captivating true crime tales. Discover the history and origins of Easter, and experience a journey like no other.

It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Easter event.

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

Part 1:

  1. Crimelines
  2. Rotten to the Core
  3. Frightful
  4. Mind over Murder
  5. The Trail Went Cold
  6. The Hidden Staircase
  7. Hometown History

Part 2:

  1. Wicked Deeds
  2. Obscura: A True Crime Podcast
  3. Hillbilly Horror Stories
  4. History Goes Bump
  5. Judgy Crime Girls
  6. Foul Play: Crime Series

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This Easter, join Shane Waters on a whimsical adventure featuring 13 podcasters as they share true stories of con artists and fake deaths. Delve into the magical world of the Enchanted Easterlands, where you’ll encounter peculiar characters and captivating true crime tales. Discover the history and origins of Easter, and experience a journey like no other. 

 It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Easter event. 

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

Part 1:

  1. Crimelines
  2. Rotten to the Core
  3. Frightful
  4. Mind over Murder
  5. The Trail Went Cold
  6. The Hidden Staircase
  7. Hometown History
Part 2:

  1. Wicked Deeds
  2. Obscura: A True Crime Podcast
  3. Hillbilly Horror Stories 
  4. History Goes Bump
  5. Judgy Crime Girls
  6. Foul Play: Crime Series
If you enjoyed this holiday collaboration special, check out the other collaboration specials: My Bloody Valentine and A Nightmare before Halloween. Stay tuned for upcoming holiday collaborations for Mother’s Day and Father’s Day. Until our next adventure, stay safe and stay vigilant.

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As Robert was taken to be booked into jail he made further comments to Detective Sanchez. He told him he had lied again in one part of his confession. He said Emily had woken up when he reached the ranch and began to fight him. He had said that’s why he hit her with the bicycle pump. The truth was Emily had never regained consciousness. She posed no threat to him at all. His continued brutal attack had been his active choice.

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Detectives were beginning to look more closely at Robert Earley. They asked him to come to the station for an informal recorded interview. Robert was happy to cooperate. At the station, he was shown into a square interview room with a round table in the corner and a chair on either side. Wearing a red baseball cap, grey sweatshirt with black long sleeves, and black faded jeans, Robert went in and casually hung his jacket over the back of the chair. Sitting down with his back to the wall, he is facing the camera pointing straight at him from its quiet position in the top corner of the room.

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In the city of Carlsbad, New Mexico in March 2014, Emily Lambert, a beautiful mother of two, would vanish without a trace. Desperate pleas from her family, friends, and boyfriend begged for information and her safe return. Behind the eyes of one individual, there was an undercurrent of violence. It simmered on the surface, occasionally bubbling up before settling back down. A menacing threat just waiting to explode. When that moment came, there was a loss of temper so violent the results were catastrophic.

When control was regained, the violence didn’t stop. The level of callous cruelty was taken up a notch again and again as the focus shifted to self-preservation. A monster is defined as a wicked being. Exerting control and power while carrying out truly heinous acts intended to cause ultimate harm. We go through our lives day to day believing people around us are inherently good. It makes the unmasking of a true monster all the more terrifying. The anguish and fear of those first days searching for Emily were followed by a deeper everlasting horror. When the truth was finally revealed, the devastation was a double blow. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

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Shocking revelations from the Emily Dimmock case left not one but two people heartbroken. The trial of Robert Wood had the public gallery filled with actors, writers, and artists jostling for reserved seats while members of the general public, who had been following the case closely, flooded the streets outside. On the terrible night of September 11th, 1907, Emily Dimmock was killed in her sleep by a man she knew well. The home that she shared with Bertram Shaw was ransacked, and her prized possession, a collection of postcards from around the world, was strewn about the bedroom floor. It looked like someone had made an effort to find a particular one and left unsuccessful. Support our podcast by becoming a patron. Find us on all platforms. Visit us online. Visit us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok.

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The investigation into Emily Dimmock’s murder wasn’t an easy one… at least not for Bert Shaw, who was convinced Emily had left her dark past behind and was living an honest life with him in their home in Camden. The police asked him several rather uncomfortable questions, ranging from Emily’s past as a sex worker named Phylis to how they met and decided to live together.

It was clear, during the questioning, that Bert had no reason or motivation to ever hurt Emily. When they first met, Emily was working the streets, and Bert offered to give her a good, comfortable life if she left the profession. Some people, however, don’t want to be rescued from their lives and enjoy their situation, even if it seems unconventional to others.

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Bertram Shaw's life was torn apart when he opened the door to his bedroom and found the love of his life, Emily Dimmock, pale and ashen on their shared bed with her throat slit. Somewhere in his heart, Bertram knew this girl was trouble… and even then, he couldn't quite grasp just how dark and twisted Emily's past had been. At the age of 22, Emily Dimmock was leading a double life. By day, she was Mrs. Shaw, the dutiful young housewife, and by night, she was Phyllis, London's most sought-after escort.

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Broken promises, broken hearts, and a heart-wrenching, horrifying scene. This is what greeted young Bertram Shaw when he opened the door to his home on Saint Paul's Road in Camden Town. It was early morning on September 12th, 1907, and Bertram had just come back from his night shift at Midland Railway as a dining car cook.

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Last time we talked about the senseless massacre that took place in a Be-Lo grocery store in the small town of Windsor. Three employees, Grover Cecil, Joyce Reason and Johnnie Rankins, were left dead and two others severely injured, while one person miraculously walked out of the store unharmed. A white sedan was seen speeding out of the town shortly after the incident—but despite all the eyewitnesses, this was not an open-and-shut-case.

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…12 dates …
…14 love gone wrong stories…
…Will YOU be my Valentine?
This Valentine’s Day, prepare for a unique podcast experience! Shane Waters will introduce 14 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, love gone wrong true story to mix. It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Valentine event. 
Part 2 of 2.
Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:
In this Part 2 Episode: 
1. Sirens
2. The Trail Went Cold
3. Method and Madness
4. True Crime Cases with Lanie
5. Crimelines
6. Love Murder
7. Foul Play: Crime Series

In the Part 1 Episode: 
1. Murder She Told
2. True Crime Island
3. Hillbilly Horror Stories
4. Tapes from the Darkside
5. Coffee and Cases
6. Gone Cold – Texas True Crime
7. Live, Laugh, Larceny

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…12 dates …
…14 love gone wrong stories…
…Will YOU be my Valentine?
This Valentine’s Day, prepare for a unique podcast experience! Shane Waters will introduce 14 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, love gone wrong true story to mix. It’s an extra special, two part, more than two-hour, Valentine event. 
Part 1 of 2.
Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:
In this Part 1 Episode: 
1. Murder She Told
2. True Crime Island
3. Hillbilly Horror Stories
4. Tapes from the Darkside
5. Coffee and Cases
6. Gone Cold – Texas True Crime
7. Live, Laugh, Larceny
In the next Part 2 Episode: 
1. Sirens
2. The Trail Went Cold
3. Method and Madness
4. True Crime Cases with Lanie
5. Crimelines
6. Love Murder
7. Foul Play: Crime Series

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I‌n the last episode, we talked about this little town called Windsor in North Carolina and the Be-Lo grocery store where six workers were taking care of closing shift tasks on Sunday, June 6, 1993. They just were unaware of the 7th person, a stranger that was observing them from a hiding place, waiting for the right moment to strike.

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On June 16th, 1993, six employees in a small grocery store in the town of Windsor, NC were finishing their day when they experienced a living nightmare. Windsor is located in Birdie County and has a rich history, as one of the oldest towns in the state of North Carolina.

Today, the town is home to about 3,500 people and 300 year old homes still line King Street. Everyone in Windsor knows everyone, making this crime particularly shocking to the community and leaving many in disbelief. As this case is more nearly 30 years old, we will be exploring the details of this massacre and its impact on the town in a series of episodes.

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On the Sunday evening of August 27, 2006, just after 9 PM, police responded to a call regarding a missing child in Leesburg, Florida. As the officers arrived at the scene, the mother, 21-year-old Melinda Duckett, explained that she had put her son, 2-year-old Trenton, to bed around 7 PM. She had then watched a movie with two of her friends before going to check on Trenton—but to her horror, the 2-year-old's bed was empty.

Melinda was quite sure that the little boy could not have gotten out of
the crib, but it was another thing that caused her and her friends to panic someone had cut through the window screen of the room.

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It’s the end of the season. Time for final thoughts, conclusions and alternative motives. And we have an expert analyse the 999 call, which is fascinating.

Documentaries about Sharon’s murder:
-Who Killed Sharon Birchwood - Police Tapes with Susanna Reid
-The Murder of Sharon Birchwood - Murder Detective with Graham Bell

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The police are off to Thailand. No, it’s not a holiday, it’s time to arrest the hitman and he’s off to the Old Bailey.

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Who Killed Sharon Birchwood - Police Tapes with Susanna Reid
The Murder of Sharon Birchwood - Murder Detective with Graham Bell

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We know George is a suspect, he doesn’t, awkward !  This is one funeral I won’t forget in a hurry.  It’s time for us to bury Sharon.

Oh, and George gets finally gets his comeuppance.

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If you’ve ever wondered why and how someone becomes a hitman, then tune in to episode 5, where I will tell you everything I know about a certain Paul Cryne.

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When the DNA results come back the police are crushed, and it’s a hard Christmas for everyone as the case of my aunt Sharon’s murder remains unsolved.

But wait……who is Paul?

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From the same team that brings you Foul Play: Crime Series, I want to introduce you to Shane's new show Mystery Inc.

If you enjoy talking about shady mysteries, Aliens, murder, legends, and of course the occasional tea - then Mystery Inc is the podcast for you! Together brothers Shane and Josh Waters travel in their Mystery Machine Tesla scouting out some of the world’s best mysteries to share them here with you on Mystery Inc - which can be found wherever you listen to podcasts.

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In this episode there are more shocks for our family as the truth about Sharon’s marriage to George are revealed.

And the relentless police interviews with George finally start to unravel the truth.

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Gemma and Survivor Donna are in Maryland today (12/7/2022) to speak at a press conference along with SNAP and their attorneys. They are filing with the court in regards to the Attorney General's attempt to release the 456-page report on child sexual abuse by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore. They want to make their voice heard asking for full disclosure of the report with no redactions.

The Maryland Attorney General investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore (AOB) has concluded. The 456-page report details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic Priests that were part of the AOB. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned his report over to the courts and has asked the court to release it to the public saying his investigation uncovered many attempts of coverups of priests abusing children by those in the Archdiocese.

The Archdiocese of Baltimore said they want full transparency and will not fight the release of the report, however they are paying for the legal fees of an "anonymous" group of people who are trying to prevent the report's release. Survivors Jean and Teresa have filed with the court to have their voices heard previously. 

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As the investigation into the murder of my aunt, Sharon Birchwood, continued it became clear that she wasn’t killed on the 7th of December 2007 after all.

But in a hoarders home, with piles and drawers full of paperwork, will the police find the evidence that they need to get to the truth?

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"Are you hoping I die so that you can use the insurance money to sort out your mess"? These words were found on a scrap of paper in the home of my Aunt, Sharon Birchwood, following her murder in December 2007.

But who had murdered my aunt, and why?

The investigation begins.

Written and Narrated by Foul Play's crime writer Wendy Cee.

‌Voiceover help from Trevin @ Live Laugh Larceny Podcast

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The Maryland Attorney General investigation into the sexual abuse of children by clergy in the Archdiocese of Baltimore (AOB) has concluded. The 456-page report details the sexual abuse of more than 600 victims at the hands of 158 Catholic Priests that were part of the AOB. Attorney General Brian Frosh has turned his report over to the courts and has asked the court to release it to the public saying his investigation uncovered many attempts of coverups of priests abusing children by those in the Archdiocese.

While Shane travels to Baltimore to do some podcasting with Gemma, he stops at a hotel in Pittsburg and records this phone conversation with Teresa Lancaster about the conclusion of the report and where we are now... as well as a mysterious group of individuals who have come forward to oppose the report being released. Concluding the episode is Jean Wehner at the SNAP press conference after news of the report being finished.

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Season 15 of Foul Play: Crime Series is starting December 4th.

This series is created and narrated by the typical crime writer of our show Wendy Cee.

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We discuss the murder trial of Nell Cropsey, which has been postponed several times. Finally, on January 16th, the trial begins. We describe the events leading up to the trial and the anticipation of the outcome.

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Jim Wilcox was accused of murdering Nell Cropsey, but the evidence against him was weak and circumstantial. As Jim Wilcox sat in a jail in the town of Elizabeth City, Nell's body was released to her family. Over 200 family members awaited her arrival at the Van Pelt Manor in Brooklyn. Deep blank with heavy white curtains, the hearse traveled across the north river to the Pennsylvania Terminal. Once the hearse was at the terminal, it would await the arrival of the Southern Express to take Nell to her final resting place. Back home, back with her family.

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Nell Cropsey was missing, and fingers were quickly pointed at Jim Wilcox. He was the last person to see her, so it would make sense. But things are never that clear-cut. The following day, Jim appeared in front of the Mayor, but with no solid evidence. Jim was free to go, but with a catch, he was required to see the Mayor every day at 12 until told otherwise.

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There is a house in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. Its Queen Anne style Frame sits on Riverside Ave near the Pasquotank river. It stands two stories high, with green and white siding and trim. This house, like so many, holds a dark history. Onlookers of the house claim to see a ghostly figure standing in front of a window of the second story. A young girl, taken before she could truly live life. A girl who has a secret.

Her name is Nell Cropsey, and the town still talks about her story to this day. But no-one truly knows what happened to Nell. The best we can do for her is to tell her story. The good, the bad, and the dark.

Joining Shane to host this season is Justin Evans from Generation Why and The Peripheral.

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Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite unsolved murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! 

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Shane and Gemma welcome Retired FBI Special Agent William Ortiz to the Sister Cathy series to discuss Polygraph Examinations. William is a Marine Corps veteran, retired from the FBI after 22 years as a Special Agent, and is the founder of Ortsec - a polygraph service company. 

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…1 campfire…

…1 dark forest…

…31 bone-chilling stories…

…Will YOU survive the night?

This Halloween season, enter the woods for a unique and truly epic podcast experience! Around the campfire Shane Waters will introduce 31 crime podcast hosts, including Foul Play. Each host brings a new, nerve-wracking true story to the circle. It’s an extra special, two part, five-hour, Halloween event, but before hitting play you might want to ask yourself…can you really handle this much murder and mayhem?

So, pull up to the fire and brace yourself for ‘A Nightmare Before Halloween’

…but be warned…

…bad things happen in these woods….

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

In this Part 2 Episode:

  • True Crime Island [https://tinyurl.com/y6kk2npj]

  • Based on a True Story [https://tinyurl.com/37axzn5z]

  • The Asian Madness Podcast [https://tinyurl.com/yckkxbjn]

  • Sistas Who Kill [https://linktr.ee/Sistas.Who.Kill.Podcast]

  • Hometown History [https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory]

  • Coffee and Cases [https://linktr.ee/coffeeandcases]

  • Military Murder [https://tinyurl.com/yc5fxjyh]

  • Dystopian Simulation Radio [https://tinyurl.com/khpw786w]

  • Cults, Crimes & Cabernet [https://linktr.ee/cultscrimesandcabernet]

  • Morbidology [https://tinyurl.com/mshyvxyt]

  • Dark Pountine [https://tinyurl.com/ycydanm9]

  • Hillbilly Horror Stories [https://tinyurl.com/567vxrkz]

  • True Consequences [https://tinyurl.com/39fpfv3h]

  • Gone Cold [https://tinyurl.com/ytzxudt8]

  • Crime Stories with Nancy Grace & Crime Online [https://tinyurl.com/3dxp47wf]

  • True Crime IRL & True Crime Sleep Stories [https://tinyurl.com/ykzwmnxr]

In the last Part 1 Episode:

  • Foul Play: Crime Series [https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay]

  • Murder She Told [https://tinyurl.com/55473exk]

  • Crime Salad [https://tinyurl.com/4pbtdtpc]

  • Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines]

  • Frightful [https://link.chtbl.com/frightful]

  • Reverie True Crime [https://linktr.ee/paigeelmore]

  • Rotten to the Core [https://link.chtbl.com/Rotten]

  • The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y]

  • Once Upon A Crime [https://www.truecrimepodcast.com]

  • Criminology [https://tinyurl.com/yvuu9u8d]

  • The Peripheral & Generation Why [https://link.chtbl.com/ThePeripheral]

  • Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast]

  • The Hidden Staircase [https://link.chtbl.com/TheHiddenStaircase]

  • True Crime Cases with Lanie & It's Haunted...What Now? [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs]

  • Obscura: A True Crime Podcast & Disaster [https://link.chtbl.com/obscura]

Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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…1 campfire…

…1 dark forest…

…31 bone-chilling stories…

…Will YOU survive the night?

This Halloween season, enter the woods for a unique and truly epic podcast experience! Around the campfire Shane Waters will introduce 31 crime podcast hosts. Each host brings a new, nerve-wracking true story to the circle. It’s an extra special, two part, five-hour, Halloween event, but before hitting play you might want to ask yourself…can you really handle this much murder and mayhem?

So, pull up to the fire and brace yourself for ‘A Nightmare Before Halloween’

…but be warned…

…bad things happen in these woods….

Podcasts are listed here in order of appearance:

In this Part 1 Episode:

  • Foul Play: Crime Series [https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay]

  • Murder She Told [https://tinyurl.com/55473exk]

  • Crime Salad [https://tinyurl.com/4pbtdtpc]

  • Crimelines [https://linktr.ee/crimelines]

  • Frightful [https://link.chtbl.com/frightful]

  • Reverie True Crime [https://linktr.ee/paigeelmore]

  • Rotten to the Core [https://link.chtbl.com/Rotten]

  • The Trail Went Cold [https://tinyurl.com/2zydj3y]

  • Once Upon A Crime [https://www.truecrimepodcast.com]

  • Criminology [https://tinyurl.com/yvuu9u8d]

  • The Peripheral & Generation Why [https://link.chtbl.com/ThePeripheral]

  • Live, Laugh, Larceny [https://linktr.ee/Live.Laugh.Larceny.Podcast]

  • The Hidden Staircase [https://link.chtbl.com/TheHiddenStaircase]

  • True Crime Cases with Lanie & It's Haunted...What Now? [https://linktr.ee/LanieHobbs]

  • Obscura: A True Crime Podcast & Disaster [https://link.chtbl.com/obscura]

In the next Part 2 Episode:

  • True Crime Island [https://tinyurl.com/y6kk2npj]

  • Based on a True Story [https://tinyurl.com/37axzn5z]

  • The Asian Madness Podcast [https://tinyurl.com/yckkxbjn]

  • Sistas Who Kill [https://linktr.ee/Sistas.Who.Kill.Podcast]

  • Hometown History [https://link.chtbl.com/hometownhistory]

  • Coffee and Cases [https://linktr.ee/coffeeandcases]

  • Military Murder [https://tinyurl.com/yc5fxjyh]

  • Dystopian Simulation Radio [https://tinyurl.com/khpw786w]

  • Cults, Crimes & Cabernet [https://linktr.ee/cultscrimesandcabernet]

  • Morbidology [https://tinyurl.com/mshyvxyt]

  • Dark Pountine [https://tinyurl.com/ycydanm9]

  • Hillbilly Horror Stories [https://tinyurl.com/567vxrkz]

  • True Consequences [https://tinyurl.com/39fpfv3h]

  • Gone Cold [https://tinyurl.com/ytzxudt8]

  • Crime Stories with Nancy Grace & Crime Online [https://tinyurl.com/3dxp47wf]

  • True Crime IRL & True Crime Sleep Stories [https://tinyurl.com/ykzwmnxr]

Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma.

The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area.

Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series.

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Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma.

The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area.

Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series.

Visit us online at: Itsfoulplay.com

Support our podcast by becoming a patron at: Patreon.com/itsfoulplay

Check out our other podcasts: itsarclightmedia.com

Find us on all platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay

Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma.

The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area.

Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series.

Visit us online at: Itsfoulplay.com

Support our podcast by becoming a patron at: Patreon.com/itsfoulplay

Check out our other podcasts: itsarclightmedia.com

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Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma.

The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area.

Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series.

Visit us online at: Itsfoulplay.com

Support our podcast by becoming a patron at: Patreon.com/itsfoulplay

Check out our other podcasts: itsarclightmedia.com

Find us on all platforms: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay

Are you obsessed with true crime and rotten people? If you have a favorite murder and you’re a crime junkie with a slight morbid since of curiosity you’re in the right place. If you can’t get enough Dateline or 20/20 and you don’t quite trust going out alone in your own back yard because people are shady - yeah me too! And if you also enjoy listening to Generation Why, True Crime Garage, The Vanished, My Favorite Murder or basically any podcast about unsolved cases and mysteries - well you’ll probably enjoy this one!

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Lizzie Borden was an American woman tried and acquitted of the August 4, 1892 axe murders of her father and stepmother in Fall River, Massachusetts. No one else was charged in the murders, and despite ostracism from other residents, Borden spent the remainder of her life in Fall River. She died of pneumonia at age 66, just days before the death of her older sister, Emma.

The Borden murders and trial received widespread publicity throughout the United States, and along with Borden herself, they remain a topic in American popular culture to the present day. They have been depicted in numerous films, theatrical productions, literary works, and folk rhymes and are still very well-known in the Fall River area.

Join Shane as he breaks down the crimes behind the Borden murders in this crime series.

Visit us online at: Itsfoulplay.com
Support our podcast by becoming a patron at: Patreon.com/itsfoulplay
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Find us on all platforms: Foul Play: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay

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Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from Netflix's The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. If you are curious what the status of the 4 year Maryland attorney general investigation into Clergy abuse is then you have come to the right place.

Jean and Teresa are inviting you to stand up for truth, and support them and all survivors of child sexual abuse, by using your voice, making noise, sending e-mails and sharing their conversation to demand accountability and serious change.

People you can contact to inquire about ongoing Attorney General investigation: Kurt Wolfgang KWolfgang@mdcrimevictims.org, David Lorenz glydonct@gmail.com, Claudia Reminton claudia.remington@maryland.gov, and Andrea Mason AMason@mdcrimevictims.org

You can find Jean's books here: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/
You can find Teresa's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Socks-Memoir-Teresa-Lancaster/dp/B09CBBGKB2

The podcast can be found on all platforms here: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay
Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com

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Shane and Gemma sit down with Jean and Teresa from Netflix's The Keepers to discuss the courts, the church, and the cops. If you are curious what the status of the 4 year Maryland attorney general investigation into Clergy abuse is then you have come to the right place.

Jean and Teresa are inviting you to stand up for truth, and support them and all survivors of child sexual abuse, by using your voice, making noise, sending e-mails and sharing their conversation to demand accountability and serious change.

People you can contact to inquire about ongoing Attorney General investigation: Kurt Wolfgang KWolfgang@mdcrimevictims.org, David Lorenz glydonct@gmail.com, Claudia Reminton claudia.remington@maryland.gov, and Andrea Mason AMason@mdcrimevictims.org

You can find Jean's books here: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/
You can find Teresa's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Socks-Memoir-Teresa-Lancaster/dp/B09CBBGKB2

The podcast can be found on all platforms here: https://link.chtbl.com/foulplay
Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com

This is a listener supported show. You can help support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplay

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More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder.

In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something!

What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station.

In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved!

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More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder.

In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something!

What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station.

In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved!

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More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder.

In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something!

What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station.

In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved!

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More than a century ago, the body of 20 year old Hazel Drew was found floating in Teal's Pond near the bottom of Taborton Mountain in Sand Lake, New York. An autopsy found that she'd died of blunt head trauma to the back of her head prior to ending up in the pond. Her death was labeled a murder.

In the weeks that followed the discovery of her body, many suspects were investigated including among others: her recently widowed, and suicidal, uncle William Taylor who lived nearby; a simple-minded 17 year old farm hand named Frank Smith, who fancied Hazel and his friend Rudolph Gunderman, a charcoal peddler, the two of whom had seen her along Taborton Road, near the pond, shortly before she died; and a pair of unknown men seen by a couple driving by, about the time the murder was supposed to have taken place, at the scene - one waiting in a horse drawn runabout, and the other beating around in the bushes near the pond, as if looking for something!

What made Hazel's murder all the more mysterious, was that only a few days prior to it, she'd suddenly, and unexpectedly left her job as a domestic at the home of Professor E.R. Cary in Troy, and nobody knew what her intentions were. Also her luggage had been left - checked at the train station.

In the end, all the leads the investigators had ran out. Nobody was ever arrested or charged with the murder, and to this day - Hazel Drew's murder remains unsolved!

Visit us online at: Itsfoulplay.com
Support our podcast by becoming a patron at: Patreon.com/itsfoulplay
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The interview room was eerily silent, Marshall had just admitted to decapitating and dismembering the body of Anna May Dietrich. He didn’t kill her; he was adamant about that. But if the discovery of a body was found in his office. His reputation, his family’s reputation, would be tarnished. He did the only thing he thought he could do.

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Hi, I’m Shane. At the begging of 2014, I launched the very first crime series podcast called Foul Play. Each season I present mind boggling crime cases. From a man falling in love with an underage girl, which turned into the first federal court case of it’s kind. To a nun who was murdered in 1969 Baltimore for trying to stop a giant child sex ring among priests and police - which went on to become the Netflix docu-series “The Keepers”. Then there is the Throwaway season… where I share how I overcame homelessness in high school, and how that experience lead me to solving the identity of a serial killer and identifying 3 of his Jane Doe victims. These seasons are out there and are ready for you to listen too right now - And I release a new episode each week for new seasons. You can find Foul Play wherever you get your podcasts. I’ll meet you there.

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The murder of Anna May Dietrich was one of the most gruesome cases Philadelphia had seen in a long time. With what police had learned about Anna’s life, they were baffled. Who would murder a woman who by all accounts was a sweet, and caring woman? When police made the discovery of her head, they noticed something was missing…

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When we ended the last episode, we left off where the discovery of a dismembered body was identified as Anna May Dietrich, although it wasn’t 100% certain, everything she was wearing matched with what Anna was wearing the day she was last seen. Today, we will learn more about Anna, how her friends and family knew her. But did they know her completely?

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Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, city of Brotherly love and Sisterly affection. A city full of history, home of the liberty bell, the signing of the Declaration of independence, and the location of execution for the notorious murderer H. H. Holmes. But we are not here to discuss the gruesome crimes of H. H. In this series, we will be talking about the death of Anna May Dietrich, a 35-year-old Milliner. A woman who wanted love, a love that ultimately resulted in her death.

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Gemma and Shane sit down with Jean and her brother to discuss the details in her new book, Walking with Aletheia

Find Upcoming Book Events: jeanwehnercoach.com/appearances/
Visit Jean's Website: jeanwehnercoach.com
Find Jean's Books: https://jeanwehnercoach.com/books/

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How did your family react to the video and the fallout from the sting at the movie theater?

My dad really, really didn't really say a whole lot. He was just, I could see it in his face he was pretty stressed out, but just like me take things into. My mom is also not the type of person to basically lash out, but super understanding. So when I first brought all of this to them, she was didn't completely, fully understand the magnitude of what was actually going on.

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Last episode, we learned that the men at the theater waiting for Brent were his former roommates, Sean (bleep) and Jacob (bleep). Not only were they former roommates, but they were also fellow Ball State students in the music department.

The three men lived together for a year and a half, from the summer of 2009 to the fall of 2010.

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The last time we saw Brent, he was at the AMC IMAX theater, on the east side of Noblesville, Indiana. A sophomore at Ball State University, Brent had arranged to meet an underaged girl in for a movie that afternoon.

But rather than the pretty blonde teenager he’d been communicating with over the last six months, he was met by two men with video cameras.

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Our story begins with a man walking into a movie theater in Noblesville, Indiana – 22-year-old Brent Allred.

Brent is shy, self-effacing, and junior at nearby Ball State University. He’s meeting a woman here, or rather a girl, for the very first time. They’ve been talking for six months now, and today he’s wearing the appropriate amount of overpriced cologne, a button-down shirt, black leather shoes, and he’s holding a pair of movie tickets for the two of them that he bought in advance for this day.

Trigger warning, this episode discusses a relationship with an underage girl

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I have so many questions about Holmes and we are sure you do too, so in this episode we will be answering some of them.

Let’s start with Why Did Holmes Kill Pitezel?

Holmes had written to Mrs Pitezel from prison just before she was released and the letter included the phrase [quote] we never quarreled [end quote]
Well, this is Holmes we are talking about, so it won’t come as any surprise I am sure, that what he wrote was pure fiction.

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Holmes was sentenced to hanging for the murder of Benjamin F Pitezel on May 7th 1986, when he was aged just 34 years old.
While there was a lot of circumstantial evidence that he also murdered Alice, Nellie and Howard Pitezel, and there were suspicions surrounding many others, he was never tried for them.

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Of course, nobody in the District Attorney’s office believed a word that came out of Holmes mouth, so the investigation to find the children continued in earnest.
It was going to be like finding a needle in a haystack, but they were determined.

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Frank Geyer, started his career with the City of Philadelphia Police Department on 6 May 1876 as a patrolman. In January 1888 he was promoted to detective and in 1894 was assigned a new case, involving suspected insurance fraud by H H Holmes.
This should have been a straight forward case, but as Geyer scratched the surface, he uncovered a lot more than he bargained for

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Holmes settled in comfortably in Chicago, he was well liked, he was charismatic, intelligent and fun to be around, nobody had a bad word to say about him.

He worked hard and saved his money, his family was an inconvenience and he sent very little back to his wife Clara and their son Robert.

In 1887, 2 years after arriving in Chicago Holmes bought the empty lot across the road from the drugstore that he worked at.

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Releasing May 25th is Season 9 of Foul Play: Making a Predator. It’s a crazy case, and the story is probably unlike whatever it is you’re thinking. Stay tuned!

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Just a month after the beginning of the American Civil War, on May 16th, 1861, arguably the world's most infamous serial killer was born in Gilmanton, New Hampshire. In this episode Shane explores the early life of Herman Webster Mudgett, also known as H. H. Holmes, to discover if there are any clues that could hint to the monster her is rumored to become in Chicago during the World's Fair. Join Shane as he explores the life and crimes of the infamous H. H. Holmes on this season of Foul Play.

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In 2009, a young woman walked out from a Lost Hills Police Station in the middle of the night and disappeared without a trace.

Today, over a decade later, the case of Mitrice Richardson still remains a bizarre mystery.

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Today’s story is one of lust, despair, illusions, and an unbridled affinity for putting up deceptive fronts. Today, we talk about Kristie Evans.

Our story begins sometime around 1974 in Roland, Oklahoma, when Kristie Dawnelle Evans was born. Born and bred in Roland, Kristie didn't know of any other world, and as a town of only a few thousand in Arkansas, Kristie grew up as a small-town girl. In high school, she met David Evans, a senior 3 years older than her. David had a flair about him... call it relaxed or call it nonchalance.

It wasn't exactly love at first sight. Naturally, they were both in different head spaces, given their age difference. But it was clear that they were interested in each other because by 1991, when Kristie was only 17 years old, she began dating David Evans.

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Before we begin, we want to give our listeners a warning: this story contains mentions of sexual assault, necrophilia, and forceful oral sex, also termed ‘irrumation’.

In this episode, we bring to you one of the most notorious serial killers of the 60s. Famously known as the Co-Ed Killer, Edmund Emily Kemper the Third was born on December 18, 1948, in Burbank, California.

Although Edmund was born in Burbank, the Co-Ed killer was born on Christmas day in 1963 in North Fork, California, when he murdered his grandparents in cold blood.

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A seemingly happy family belonging in a Norman Rockwell painting would soon turn into a thing of nightmares… this is the story of Ann and Anthony Anastasi, it's one of jealousy, rage, and murder.

Ann Marie Anastasi was born sometime around 1973. There's not much background information on where she grew up or came from, but she was a traditional young woman who grew up in Maryland.

Anthony Anastasi was also born sometime in 1975, and while his past is still unknown too, we know he fell in love with and married Ann in Maryland.

Our story picks up right in the middle of their marriage. They had moved from Maryland to Sault Ste Marie, Michigan, because Anthony was working as a volunteer youth hockey coach. By this point, Ann and Anthony had already had five kids and were already deep in the trenches of a full-fledged marriage.

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Shane and Gemma continue the conversation on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. The pair interview Teresa Lancaster and her daughter Annette to discuss Teresa's new book Safe in Socks.

You can find her book on amazon here: Safe In Socks: My Memoir

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A few months ago, Shane received an email from a high school teacher in Hartwell, Georgia, named Leanne. Leanne explained that she was using true crime to teach a Freshman and Sophomore course in World Literature in a very out-of-the-box way. She was requiring her students to investigate an unsolved local case and develop a podcast episode presenting their findings.

In her email she explained she learned of Shane from his work with another high school teacher, Alex from Elizabethton, Tennessee, on the Redhead Murders case. She asked for any advice he could throw her way.

Shane responded immediately, saying he and our audio engineer would travel the 11 hours down to Hartwell, Georgia from the studio in Wabash, Indiana, to help teach her students how to create a true crime podcast.

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(Part 3) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period.

Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks.
Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road.

In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents.

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(Part 2) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period.

Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks.

Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road.

In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents.

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(Part 1) In late 2006 a small town in the East of the United Kingdom was shaken by a killing spree of 5 women, over a very short 6 week period.

Ipswich, a tranquil, historic town in the county of Suffolk in England is now a thriving tourist hotspot, with a waterfront location. The town is has many lovely bars and restaurants surrounding it’s historic docks.
Back in 2006, like most towns, Ipswich had its fair share of issues, including a thriving sex worker industry, based in the red light district in London Road.

In fact, the problem was so bad, that the London Road area of Ipswich was actually a no go zone for local residents.

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People tend to stick with what they know. If you've been a criminal for the majority of your life, it can be difficult to envision another way of living. While it's true some former inmates do emerge from prison reformed, there are many others who are repeat offenders.

This was certainly the case with David Early. For most of his life he was incarcerated and then given second chances by parole boards who wanted to believe in the power of rehabilitation. Unfortunately, they gambled on the wrong man. After decades beyond bars, Early went on to slaughter the Knight family.

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Nancy and Robert Kissel had a life that would exceed most people's wildest dreams. A luxury apartment in a serene setting just a stone's throw from Hong Kong. A spacious vacation home in rural Vermont. And three healthy young children, with enough money to indulge their every whim.

Yet sometimes, the most idyllic lives mask a shadowy truth. A reality check surfaced in September 2003, when the body of 40-year-old Robert Kissel was found discarded in a storage facility. Was this a crime of envy? Or something much more personal? As the world watched in fascinated horror, the truth would prove to be stranger than fiction.

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While you may have never heard of the Papin sisters, their story may sound familiar: two domestic servants seeking revenge on their wealthy employer for the cards they’ve been dealt in life.

If you do recognize that premise, it’s probably because South Korean film director Bong Jong Ho’s Oscar-winning 2019 film Parasite was inspired by this case.

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Longview Washington, Friday 20 December 1985, The Daily News, lead with the headline ‘Congress bogs down in battle to cut federal deficit’.
The front page was filled with stories about property tax increases, economic growth, politics and at the very bottom, a story about the Winter Solstice.
You’d be forgiven for thinking that there were no crimes from reading this, but if you delved deeper through the pages of advertising and light hearted stories there were a few hidden in there.
Page 11, the Area News section contained headlines on the latest news about the local theatre redevelopment, and the local crab fishermans decreasing catches, then tucked right near the bottom of the page ‘Ethel couple disappears’.

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For almost 40 years there stood a huge billboard on route 19 near Fayatteville, West Virginia.

It showed the images of 5 children and the following inscription
‘On Christmas Eve 1945 our home was set afire and five of our children, ages five through fourteen kidnapped. The officials blamed defective wiring although lights were still burning after the fire started.

The official report stated that the children died in the fire however no bones were found in the residue and there was no smell of burning flesh during or after the fire.

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Michigan’s Northern Peninsula was rife copper mining country. This was big business, making huge profits for the mining companies, but giving little pay and benefits to their workers. Many of the workers were immigrants, who had moved from Europe in the search of the New World and the amazing opportunities that had been promised to them if they moved to the United States.

By 1913 there were three dominate copper mines in the area, then known as Copper Country, Calumet and Hecla Mining Company, Quincy Mine and the Copper Range Company.

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In the 1992 horror cult-classic film Candyman, curiosity takes a grad student places she never thought she’d find herself. Our lead, Helen Lyle, played by Virginia Madsen, is a young white woman who wanders into Chicago’s Near North Side housing projects. She is there to research an urban legend - chant ‘Candyman’ 5 times in front of a mirror and a one-armed maniac with a knife will appear.

This concept is reminiscent of the ‘Bloody Mary’ legend that terrified many of us as kids. The idea you could be alone in the safety of your own home and suddenly have a violent predator in front of you is more than a little unsettling.

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For some people, attempts made to rise above the hand they’ve been dealt are met with success. Other people strive to better themselves and encounter notable resistance - maybe even a sense of futility.

This was the case with Rubin Carter. It seemed anytime he tried to transcend his impoverished background or society’s rampant racism he was met with yet another obstacle.

While he became a highly respected professional boxer and was once named a top middleweight contender by Ring magazine, fate had other plans in store. Events that transpired at the peak of his career would set him back so far that his reputation never recovered.

Stick around to hear about the curious case of Rubin “Hurricane” Carter, a man who beat the odds but was knocked out by misfortune.

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Shane and Gemma continue the conversation on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy. The pair interview “the brother” who shares his experience working with Sister Cathy in a setting that ultimately lead Cathy to teach in a public school.

The Brother also shares a very strange encounter with Father Maskell after Sister Cathy disappeared.

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The act of taking someone’s life through poisoning has been around since Ancient Rome and Greece, when it was the preferred method of assassination. Plants like nightshade, hemlock, oleander, and snakeroot were often mixed into a target’s food or drink. These natural poisons became less useful in Medieval Europe, when antidotes were developed for many poisonous plants.

You’ll see the focal point of this case is the involvement of an atypical form of poison. While it may seem like an archaic method of inducing harm, the case we’re about to explore proves that it’s a very modern threat.

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When seven men were gunned down in a Chicago garage in 1929, their killers thought nothing of it. After all, they had been engaged in a hostile war against each other, and the victims were merely collateral damage.

What they didn’t expect, though, was that these killings would mark the end of the powerful grip that they had over American society. With these seven murders, they managed to topple the organized crime syndicates that terrorized the country’s citizens.

This is the story of the 1929 Valentine’s Day Massacre.

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Season Finale. For three years now I’ve been nailing these little red crosses into the ground. I know it doesn’t mean very much, but what the hell else am I supposed to do? Forget? Walk away with the same indifference I’ve resented in others? I know they don’t fix anything; I know they don’t make anything right. Maybe most people don’t even know what they are. In fact, I’m sure they don’t.

I could have marked the actual burial plots – but with what? I can’t put a name on them. I can’t fit my outrage on a little stone marker (what’s the character limit on those anyway?) Besides, putting a memorial in some remote corner of some equally remote cemetery, overtop of a forgotten body, is only going to result in a forgotten memorial.

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The best imaginable alibi, outside of lunch with the Dalai Lama, is simply to place yourself in police custody at the time the crime is committed. If the police are with you, they know it’s not you – or so the logic goes. This is, in fact, the very thought process that stalled the prosecution of Jerry Johns for the Redhead Murders.

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[Part 7] By the time someone becomes a lot lizard, they have, by and large, already suffered enough. Truck stop sex work is a late stop on a tour of misery that almost always begins at home. And if it doesn’t begin at home, it begins just outside of it, with bad boyfriends, bad uncles and other predators with their foot already in the door. Interview any one lizard, or twenty, and you’ll hear a similar story - their home life or love life was, to put it mildly, problematic.

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Rather than adoring and desiring his mother according to the Freudian complex, Jerry Johns appears to have hated her subtly and relentlessly under the guise of run of the mill spree-killing. Hearing all this, you might be able to guess what Johns’ mother did for a living, and what color her hair was. 

She was a redheaded prostitute.

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In pitch darkness, shortly after 2AM, Jane Doe #7 stumbled into the median of I-40, near Junction 58, in Kingston, Tennessee. The strangling had ruptured the blood vessels in her eyes and rendered her virtually blind, though only temporarily. Her hearing was also damaged by the astronomical physical stress of her murder.

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[Part 4] When you were in school you probably had class projects. You made terrariums and did that thing with a papier-mâché volcano filled with Mentos and Coca-Cola. If you were lucky you got to dissect a pinecone or two, or maybe even a worm if you lived in the right district.

A class project of a different sort, led by fearless innovator (and now friend) Alex Campbell, changed this investigation yet again when he and his class of high schoolers – yes, high schoolers, worked with an FBI profiler to establish that we did in fact have a serial killer on our hands.

They also provided a name for our killer – the Bible Belt Strangler.

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[Part 3] After Shane started researching the case of the Barbourville Jane Doe, and sharing this story on Foul Play, smaller newspapers around the Bible belt began reviving the story. Crime bloggers began writing about it online. Encouraged by this surge of interest, I called up a dear friend of mine who is a fellow investigator, Gemma Hoskins, and discussed some of the ways in which we might draw yet more attention to the case.

Her suggestion was simple, but it touched on something that would soon change the face of our investigation: create a Facebook page to share information.

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“Lot lizards” - that’s what they call them. The kind of prostitutes who work truck stops and trailer parks. These are not the high-end rent girls of Abu Dhabi. These are blue collar, minimum wage hustlers closer to the Hollywood stereotype of the rustbelt hooker. You know the one – she has a heart of gold and a drug problem, high heels, a leopard print skirt, and probably some red lipstick and a C-section scar.

The term “Lot Lizard” was coined by a comedian in the 1970s and took off from there. Even if you take offense at the sneering attitude of this label, you have to admit it has a kind of ring to it. It might make you think of leathery old women prowling parking lots past their sexual prime and willing to do anything for a buck. More fundamentally, it evokes the image of a slimy predator lurking in the sunlight and looking to draw unsuspecting flies into its mouth.

But these women, and sometimes men, are less predator than prey.

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This new series details the investigation of the Redhead Murders, including details of how Shane got involved all the way to identifying the serial killer and 3 of his Jane Doe victims. You will get an insiders look inside the mind of this serial killer, learn how easy it was in the 80s to be trafficked, and hear from a woman who was once known as a 'Lot Lizard.'

It involves murder, betrayal, prostitution, investigation, and threats. I hope by the end of the series it will help change the public's perception of people living on the fringe of society.

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Gemma and Shane interview 'Liz', who shares details from her time working for Dr. Christian Richter.  You may recall that Father Maskell allegedly took students he was sexually abusing to Dr. Richter for abortions.  Trigger Warning for survivorsVisit us online at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Get $15 off to grow thicker, healthier hair with Nutrafol at Nutrafol.com promo code FOULCRIMEProtect yourself and your family with Taser's line of smart-defense products. Save 15% at Taser.com promo code FOULPLAY Take your free mental health assessment and get up to $100 credit on your first month of treatment at Brightside.com/foulplay Get delicious fresh meals delivered directly to your door and get 12 free meals by going to HelloFresh.com/Foul12 and use code foul12  Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma discuss the unsolved murder of Pamela Lynn Conyers with Pam's niece Ingrid. Detectives believe Pamela's murder may be related to the murder of Sister Cathy and Joyce. Pamela Lynn Conyers attended Glen Burnie High School's homecoming bonfire and pep rally on Oct. 16, 1970. She later drove her family's 1967 Dodge Monaco to the Harundale Mall in Glen Burnie, the last place she would be seen alive before her body was found in a wooded area between the eastbound and westbound lanes of Maryland 177. It is presently known as Route 100 near the Waterford Road and Route 648 overpass.Episode Sponsorships:Add essential protein to your multivitamin ritual from Ritual, save 10% at Ritual.com/FOULDownload the 5 star-rated puzzle game Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play. Protect yourself and your family with Taser's line of smart self-defense products. Save 15% now at taser.com promo code FOULPLAYGrab your Liquid I.V. and get 25% off when you go to LiquidIV.com and use code FOUL Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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(Part 3) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were among the first podcasts I ever created,  and it was under the name American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. On the 52nd Anniversary of Beverly Jarosz's 1964 Garfield Heights, Ohio Murder - we interview the Lead Detective in Beverly's case. GHPD Detective Carl Biecki provides an insight on the case, discussing avenues explored in 1952, 2003, and today. Together with case-expert Diane McClellan and Detective Carl Biecki we further explore our leading suspect Harry Joseph Madol. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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(Part 2) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were among the first podcasts I ever created,  and it was under the name American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. Beverly Jarosz was slain in her Garfield Heights, Ohio home on December 28th, 1964. An unknown person made the decision to end this 16 year old's life by strangling her with a rope, and viciously stabbing her 42 times. On this Part 2 episode we will be speaking with an expert and discussing who we feel may have murdered Beverly.  Our #1 Suspect: Harry Joseph Madol. Several reasons and the history of Madol is revealed in this episode.  Featuring a reading of a Medium who lead us to find Madol as our primary suspect. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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(Part 1) I’ve been receiving requests from some of you to release the three podcasts I created years ago on the 1964 unsolved murder of Beverly Jarosz. These 3 episodes were among the first podcasts I ever created,  and it was under the name American Crimecast. You will hear interviews from Beverly’s sister Carol along with her mother Eleanor. I am very saddened to share that Eleanor has since passed away. On December 28th, 1964, sixteen year old high school junior Beverly Jarosz was slain in her home in Garfield Heights, Ohio.  Almost 52 years later we sat down with her family. This is her story.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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(Part 2) Shane and Gemma did their first LIVE on-the-air podcast, take a listen as they answer questions and clarify a few things in relation to Sister Cathy's case! Learn more at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Grow thicker and healthier hair by going to Nutrafol.com and using promo code FOULCRIME to save 20% Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma did their first LIVE on-the-air podcast, take a listen as they answer questions and clarify a few things in relation to Sister Cathy's case! Learn more at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE today on the apple App Store or Google Play! Try Ritual's new Protein Powders and get 10% off your first 3 months at Ritual.com/foulTo match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com and use code FOUL to get $100 off your first month.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma Hoskins, from Netflix's 'The Keepers', sit down with a former student and friend of Sister Russell's to discuss some of her experiences, interactions, and memories. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Grow thicker and healthier hair by going to Nutrafol.com and using promo code FOULCRIME to save 20% Download June's Journey FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google PlaySupport our show by becoming a Patron at Patreon.com/itsfoulplaySupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma Hoskins from Netflix's 'The Keepers' discuss the consequences of surviving childhood sexual abuse with an abuse Survivor named Erin. Erin has suffered tremendously from addiction that she traces back to how she learned to cope with her abuse. Stick around for the end of the episode where Shane and Gemma discuss an unfortunate death to someone they have spoken to while creating this podcast series to further the investigation of Sister Cathy's murder and also helping to bring awareness to sexual abuse of children. Learn more about our Sister Cathy Series at itsfoulplay.com/2-sister-cathyEpisode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play.Get 25% off when you get better hydration at LiquidIV.com and use promo code FOUL at checkout!Now is the time to prioritize your health - go to Zocdoc.com/foulplay to download the Zocdoc app to sign up for FREE and book a top-rated doctor as soon as today!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Harry has now recanted his confession, claiming it was made under duress. He was beaten and kept awake. He states that he confessed because all he wanted to do was sleep. However, with the amount of evidence against him, he would still end up in front of a Jury.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comSupport our show by becoming a Foul Play Patron at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayEpisode Sponsors:Get 10% off during your first 3 months of Ritual's Multivitamin at ritual.com/foulDownload Best Fiends FREE today on the apple App Store or Google PlayGet $100 off your first month with your licensed therapist at Talkspace.com and use code FOULDownload June's Journey FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google PlaySupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In one of the numerous trunks confiscated from the Powers home, something caught their attention. A bankbook that belonged to Mrs. Dorothy Pressler Lemke, North Uxbridge Mass. Police made inquiries to the Worcester Police and they ended up interviewing Mr and Mrs Charles Flemming, Dorothy’s brother in law and her sister. She identified Powers by his picture.“That’s the man my sister Dorothy took away to marry.” She said he went by the name of D. P Lowther, from Virginia . “Dorothy told me she was writing that matrimonial agency for a thrill. I warned her of the dangers but she just laughed.”Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:To match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com or download the app. Use Code FOUL to get $100 off your first month!Download BEST FIENDS free on the Apple App Store or Google Play!Get 25% off when you order your Liquid I.V. at LiquidIV.com and use code FOUL at checkoutSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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The first of April is widely regarded as an unofficial holiday reserved for pranks and hoaxes that seem too ridiculous to be believed yet are surprisingly enough to fool several hundreds of people. The pages of history are littered with such incidents, from claims of a flying saucer to news reports of a shocking theft.  For decades now, individuals – and even, reputable organizations – have been trying to outdo each other with the craziest yet most believable tales. These may not always result in laughs, but they do make for pretty good stories! In this episode, we’ll dive into three of the strangest pranks to have ever been carried out on April Fools’ Day. Given how outlandish they were, it’s hard to believe that they managed to fool thousands of people across the world! Visit us at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!For 10% off your first 3 months of the Ritual Multivitamin go to Ritual.com/foulGet 15% off your first order when you use promo code FP15 at american-giant.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This episode begins after the grisly discovery of Asta Eicher and her three children’s remains at the Garage of Harry Powers; who is currently in custody at the Clarksburg West Virginia Police Department.He said he knew nothing about their deaths. Mobs surrounded the stations, angry wanting to lynch Harry for his crimes. “Bring the man out!” they shouted angrily.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Join us 3 times every two weeks exclusively on the Stereo App! Stereo.com/foulplayCheck out the Stuck at Home Podcast where ever you stream podcastsTo match with a licensed therapist today, go to Talkspace.com or download the app. Use Code FOUL to get $100 off your first month!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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An arrest warrant was issued for Cornelius Pierson, who turned out to be Harry F. Powers of Clarksburg, West Virginia. Catfishing is a term most people recognize today as someone who pretends to be someone else - most of the time when meeting over online dating sites. It seems Harry learned to hunt his prey by catfishing over the letters he would write. Episode Sponsors:Grow thicker, healthier hair by going to Nutrafol.com and using promo code TRUECRIME to get 20% off! To match with a licensed therapist today go to Talkspace.com and use code FOUL to get $100 off your first monthWe're doing LIVE podcasts 3 times between each episode over on the Stereo App! To join in on the conversation go to Stereo.com/Foulplay and follow @foulplay - Talk to you there!You can support our show by becoming a Patreon at patreon.com/itsfoulplay(Visit us online at itsfoulplay.com)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In this day and age, the chance at finding love has never been easier. It’s literally in the palm of your hand. The internet has opened the door to so many possibilities, online dating websites such as Match.com, eHarmony. Many using mobile dating apps such as Tinder, where you can swipe left or right on a potential match. When meeting someone you’ve been only talking online, or messages, in their case, by mail. The warning is this:  When you first meet someone you never know what their true intentions are.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comEpisode Sponsors:Join us for weekly live podcasts over on the FREE smartphone app Stereo : Stereo.com/foulplayGet 15% off your first order of the highest quality of clothing! Use code FOULPLAY15 at american-giant.com Get key nutrients-without the BS. Ritual is offering listeners 10% off your first 3 months. Visit Ritual.com/Foul Special thanks to Samii from the podcast It's Frightful for her help with writing this series! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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On November 5, 1990, Ghislaine Maxwell flew to New York to hand deliver an envelope for her Father. What she did not know was that this envelope was part of a plot, that Robert Maxwell had initiated to steal $200m from the shareholders of Berlitz Corporation. Exactly a year later his naked body would be found floating in the Atlantic.  Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow us on Twitter!Support the show on Patreon.Episode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play!Right now get 15% off orders over $90 only at Mancrates.com/FOULPLAYGrow thicker, healthier hair at Nutrafol.com and use promo code TRUECRIMESupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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The Maxwell family were initially poor but as Robert Maxwell’s empire grew, so did the families wealth, and in 1959 they moved into Headington Hill Hall in Oxford, which they rented from Oxford City Council. Headington Hill Hall was a huge, imposing building, with the oldest part of the building dating back to 1824. The house was originally built for a local brewing family, called the Morrell’s.  Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow us on Twitter!Support the show on Patreon.Episode Sponsors:You deserve to know what's in your mulivitamin. That's why Ritual is offering our listeners 10% off during your first 3 months. Visit ritual.com/FOUL to start your ritual today.Start buying clothes that are ethical, sustainable, and local. Get 15% off your first order when you use promo code FOULPLAY15 at american-giant.com Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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You've no doubt heard about the infamous sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and his association with British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine worked for her father, the publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell, until his mysterious death in 1991, when she relocated to the US and became associated with Epstein. The Maxwell family has a very interesting story, and we are here to tell it. Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow us on Twitter!Support the show on Patreon.Episode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App Store or Google Play!Visit Ritual to start your Ritual today with 10% off your first 3 months!Grow thicker, healthier hair by going to Nutrafol.com and using promo 'FOULPLAY' for 20% off!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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During this season we have not only told you about those that we know were victims of the Speed Freak Killers, we have also included some unsolved cases that are believed to be attributed to Shermantine and Herzog.Can you imagine living minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day, year after year, not knowing what happened to your Parent, your sibling, your child or your friend?Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow our Facebook Page, Twitter, and Instagram!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In 2014 Miss Shelley and her daughters sued the county of San Joaquin, Sheriff Steve Moore in his official capacity as Sheriff, and Steve Moore individually for the way that the remains of Jo Ann Hobson were handled. They asked for damages due to negligence and emotional stress. Episode Sponsors:Best Fiends - Download Shane's favorite game to play on his phone for free from the Apple App Store or Google Play.Nutrafol - With Promo code "FOULPLAY" new customers get 20% off - gain control of your weakening or thinning hair! Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow our Facebook Page, Twitter, and Instagram!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Following the dig at the well site, Leonard Padilla tried to get Shermantine out of prison to show them the exact spot where other sites were so that more digs could happen.Bounty Hunter, Rob Dick, tells us what happened next.Episode Sponsors:Ritual - 10% off your first 3 months at Ritual.com/foulHunt A Killer - Use promo code FOUL at checkout for 20% off! (huntakiller.com/foul)Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow our Facebook Page, Twitter, and Instagram!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane & Gemma reunite to chat with a new friend of Gemma's - who shares with us the story of her English teacher and mentor that was murdered in Maryland. Stay tuned for more episodes that we are working on for Sister Cathy's case! You can find her book on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1628062762/ Visit our website at itsfoulplay.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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The huge maps that Shermantine was drawing WERE accurate, it was time to look into other locations that he had marked. It was time to bring home the other missing people, to end this horrendous ordeal for those other families that had spent years not knowing what happened to their loved ones.Surely, with the assistance of Shermantine and his maps, along with the correct resources, this should be relatively simple, shouldn’t it?Episode Sponsors:Best Fiends - Download FREE on the Apple app store or Google playHunt A Killer - Use promo code FOUL at checkout for 20% off! (huntakiller.com/foul)Support our show by becoming a Patron at Patreon.com/itshometownhistory.Join our Facebook Discussion Group.Follow our Facebook Page, Twitter, and Instagram!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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As you know from earlier episodes, there are many missing people in the area where Shermantine and Herzog lived who are suspected to be victims of the pair. But their killing spree wasn’t contained to the Linden area of California, they are thought to have committed heinous crimes in each and every state they visited on their various hunting trips.In this episode, we will be telling you about two ladies who are believed to be victims of the Speed Freak Killers.Episode Sponsors:Download Best Fiends FREE today on the Apple App store or Google Play10% off your first 3 months of Ritual Multivitamins at Ritual.com/foulSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Happy Halloween from the Foul Play team! This special bonus episode includes the history of Halloween and how different cultures celebrate it. Of course, any good Halloween episode wouldn't be complete with some creepy true stories...To answer the special question email: shane@itsfoulplay.com Episode Sponsorship:Nutrafol.com - Promo code "FOULPLAY" : 20% off plus free shipping! Support our show by supporting us on Patreon.Visit our website to learn more: itsfoulplay.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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While researching for The maps we have come across the same thing time and time again. Issues with law enforcement in the area, shady stories from within law enforcement,  families feeling like things were being brushed under the carpet, and families feeling like they were being targeted if they made a complaint or raised any concerns.Episode Sponsorships:CBDMD.com - Use promo code "foulplay" at checkout for 25% offHuntAKiller.com/foul - 20% off your subscription to this murder mystery box! ModernFertility.com/foul - $20 off your fertility testJoin our Facebook Discussion GroupFollow us on TwitterSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In February 2012 Cyndi Vanderheiden and Chevy Wheeler's remains were recovered and the families could finally put their daughters to rest. After everything they had been through, surely, this was the end of their nightmare, wasn’t it?Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comSponsors:CBDMD.com enter promo code 'FOULPLAY' for 25% offDownload Best Fiends FREE on your apple or android device Ritual.com/foul for 10% off your first 3 monthsSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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After years of not knowing where Wes and Loren dumped the remains of Cyndi and Chevy, finally convicted serial killer Wesley Shermantine draws a detailed map of where they could be found. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comSponsors for this episode:Modern Fertility - $20 off your fertility test at ModernFertility.com/foul CBDMD - 25% off your purchase of CBD products at CBDMD.com promo code FOULPLAYBest Fiends - Free game to download on the Apple App Store or Google PlaySupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Convicted serial killer Loren Herzog was paroled from prison on September 18th, 2010 after serving a reduced 14-year sentence. The circumstances leading up to and after his parol is shocking, join us as we share the unbelievable details. Visit us at itsfoulplay.com Support the show: Patreon.com/itsfoulplaySponsors:CbdMD.com enter promo code FOULPLAY for 25% offModernFertility.com/Foul $20 off your testritual.com/FOUL for 10% off Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In this episode, Gemma Hoskins reads a chapter out of her new book "Keeping On". You can find the book for purchase here: https://mascotbooks.com/mascot-marketplace/buy-books/nonfiction/bios-and-memoirs/keeping-on/Book Description: Fifty years ago, beloved teacher Sister Catherine Cesnik was the victim of a brutal unsolved murder. Ever since then, her students, colleagues, friends, and family have all been asking the same question: who killed Sister Cathy? Gemma Hoskins is one of Sister Cathy’s formers students. She appeared on The Keepers, the 2017 Emmy-nominated Netflix docuseries that had the world also wondering what happened to Sister Cathy. Gemma has been both deeply inspired and haunted by Sister Cathy’s life and death, leading her to decide to make her life’s purpose to uncover what really happened that November night in 1969. In Keeping On, Gemma takes readers on a journey of her life, from her time as Sister Cathy’s student at Archbishop Keough High School through present day. She reflects upon the experiences that have shaped her, including her personal experience as a teacher, grassroots investigator, and fierce advocate for truth and justice. Gemma openly continues the search for the truth behind Sister Cathy’s murder, but also reflects upon how Sister Cathy’s life profoundly impacted those who knew and loved her.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Shane and Wendy as they discuss accusations of ethics violations at the Sheriff's Office under Sheriff Baxter Dunn (1991-2005) and Sheriff Steve Moore (2009-2019) with the current Sheriff Pat Withrow. Episode Sponsors: Feals - 50% off w/free shipping CBD Feals.com/foulEveryPlate - 3 weeks of meals for $2.99/meal go to EveryPlate.com and enter promo code 'foul3' at checkout! Ritual - 10% off during your first 3 months: Ritual.com/FoulVisit our website to learn more: itsfoulplay.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Wendy sit down with Paul Holes to discuss his experience with San Joaquin, California, and general information about Serial Killers. Paul became familiar with this area while investigating the Golden State Killer. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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On July 31, 2001, jury selection began in Herzog's murder trial. The trial was also held in Santa Clara County, due to the notoriety of the pair and concerns that it would not be a fair trial otherwise. After two weeks of deliberations, the jury returned with 3 counts of murder for Cyndi Vanderheiden, Paul Cavanaugh, and Howard King - and for being an accessory to the murder of Henry Howell. On December 10th, 2001, Herzog was sentenced to 78 years in state prison.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma are joined with Behavior Detection Analyst Mike again to discuss more deceptive behavior observed in Netflix's 'The Keepers' Visit us at itsfoulplay.comSupport our show: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Wesley Shermantine's trial started in Santa Clara County on November 22, 2000. Shermantine was charged with four murders - Howard King, Paul Cavanaugh, Chevy Wheeler, and Cyndi Vanderheiden. Episode Sponsored by Ritual: https://www.ritual.com/shadows (10% off vitamins for first 3 months)Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma organized a Zoom meeting with many key players of Netflix's docu-series 'The Keepers' - along with many people you've heard from in our podcast so far. Visit us at itsfoulplay.comSupport us: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This is the second half of our discussion with the professional Behavior Detection Analyst. We listen and process through Loren Herzog's interview from February 1st, 1999 (second part) along with his later arrest and interrogation from March 1999. We also process Wesley Shermantine's interrogation from March 1999. The video interrogations are posted on our Facebook podcast discussion group.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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With the help of a professional Behavior Detection Analyst, we listen and process through Loren Herzog's first police interrogation from November 20th, 1998, as well as the first part of his police interrogation from February 1st, 1999. Episode SponsorshipsSun Basket: $35 off your order at https://sunbasket.com/foulplay and use promo code "foulplay" at checkoutRitual: 10% off first 3 months at https://ritual.com/ShadowsFeals: 50% +Free Shipping at https://feals.com/foulHoney: Free at https://joinhoney.com/foulSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Rob Dick and Leonard Padilla are Bounty Hunters who got involved in the 'Speed Freak Killers' case very early on. Without their involvement the maps never would have been drawn, and the locations of the remains of most victims would still not be known. We also introduce the missing person case of Gayle Marks. Gayle went missing at 18 years old, and at the time was 5'4" and weighed 110 pounds. Gayle is caucasian with naturally blonde hair and blue eyes. She has not been seen since 10/18/1988.Rob Dick has his own podcast called 'Human Hunters' which can be found at thehumanhunters.comEpisode SponsorsExpress VPN: First 3 months free at https://www.expressvpn.com/shadowsRitual: 10% off first 3 months at http://www.ritual.com/SHADOWSSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In this episode, we will be talking about Cyndi Vanderheiden. Cyndi was the last known victim of the Speed Freak Killers as they were both arrested shortly after her disappearance. You will also be presented with the missing person case of Phillip Cabot Lloyd Martin. Phillip went missing on September 30th, 1993, and is believed to be a possible victim of Shermantine and Herzog.Episode sponsors:betterhelp.com/outBest FiendsSunBasket.com/foulplay and enter promo foulplayOur website: itsfoulplay.comSupport us on Patreon: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayEpisode transcriptions are available on our website for Patreon SupportersFacebook Discussion: Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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October 16th, 1985, Chevy Wheeler disappeared after telling friends she was going to be skipping school with Wesley Shermantine. Chevy's mother Paula describes the last day she saw Chevy, and the events that lead up to her disappearance. Twenty-seven years after she went missing, Chevy is finally found in a shallow grave.Episode sponsors:expressvpn.com/shadowsritual.com/shadowsbetterhelp.com/shadowsOur website: itsfoulplay.comSupport us on Patreon: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayEpisode transcriptions are available on our website for Patreon SupportersFacebook Discussion: Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down with Michael Salter to discuss the False Memory Syndrome Foundation and the reasons behind why they shut down at the end of 2019.Visit our website at itsfoulplay.comSupport the podcast: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'This is episode is sponsored by:-Best Fiends -Sun Basket: $35 off your order by going to Sunbasket.com/foulplay and enter code 'foulplay' at checkout!Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Jo Ann Hobson and Robin Armtrout disappeared from Stockton in August 1985. Robin's body was found within a week, she had been sexually assaulted and stabbed more than 40 times. Jo Ann's disappearance remained a mystery until Wesley Shermantine drew a map of the location of a well where her remains were located.If you have any information about these cases, please contact us. You can remain anonymous if you wish itsfoulplay.com.Sponsors for this episode:Betterhelp.com/out (10% off first month of online counseling)ExpressVP.com/shadows (3 months free!)Best FiendsYou can help support our on-site investigation as well as receive member benefits by becoming a Foul Play Patreon. Donations start from as little as $3 a month. Just visit itsfoulplay.com and click Patreon at the top. Join in on our discussion on Facebook by searching for Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion Group. You can also show support by simply visiting websites provided during our sponsorships reads, even if you don’t sign up, you’re helping us just by visiting their site to learn more. Thank you for listening, together we can make a difference.Patreon.com/itsfoulplayitsfoulplay.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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All seemed well in and around the community of Linden, California, in the early 1980s. Methamphetamine made its way into the life of many impressionable young people as they navigated a social life outside of High School. It's not uncommon for two best friends to enjoy hunting, but unbeknownst to the community, Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog decided they would start hunting people. Their reign of terror spanned for 15 years and their victim count is estimated conservatively at 60 people. How did the two serial killers get away with dozens of murders for so long? Why did the two evolve from hunting animals to humans? Who fell victim to their torture? Join us as we dive deep into the case.If you have any information about these cases, please contact us. You can remain anonymous if you wish: Shane@itsfoulplay.com.Sponsors for this episode: - Betterhelp.com/out (10% off first month of online counseling) - ExpressVP.com/shadows (3 months free!) - Ritual.com/shadows (10% off first 3 months of essential multivitamins for women)You can help support our on-site investigation as well as receive member benefits by becoming a Patreon. Donations start from as little as $3 a month. Just visit itsfoulplay.com and click Patreon at the top. Join in on our discussion on Facebook by searching for Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion Group. You can also show support by simply visiting websites provided during our sponsorships reads, even if you don’t sign up, you’re helping us just by visiting their site to learn more. Thank you for listening, together we can make a difference.Patreon.com/itsfoulplaySupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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On the new season of Foul Play: The Maps, Shane and Wendy traveled to Lodi, California to investigate the cases of serial killer duo Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog. The pair are known as the Speed Freak Killers and their reign of terror spanned 15 years with an estimated 60 victims. Follow along biweekly as we dive deep into the cases to find out why two best friends evolved from hunting animals to hunting humans - and how two serial killers got away with dozens of murders for more than a decade. You can help support our on-site investigation as well as receive member benefits by becoming a Foul Play Patreon. Donations start from as little as $3 a month. Just visit itsfoulplay.com and click Patreon at the top. Join in on our discussion on Facebook by searching for Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion Group. You can also show support by simply visiting websites provided during our sponsorships reads, even if you don’t sign up, you’re helping us just by visiting their site to learn more. Thank you for listening, together we can make a difference.Patreon.com/itsfoulplayitsfoulplay.comSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down with an expert behavioral detection analyst who analyzes interviews with key figures surrounding Sister Cathy's case. **Correction to the episode: Timestamp referenced to Dr. Richter is on Episode 4 of The Keepers Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down with an expert behavioral detection analyst who analyzes interviews with key figures surrounding Sister Cathy's case. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 2] In Annapolis Maryland on Feb 20th survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner joined other survivors and experts to speak at a hearing to state committee members on why the Hidden Predator Act of 2020 should be passed. This act would eliminate the statute of limitations for abuse victims, allowing them to have their day in civil court to expose their abuser. Last year this act passed the Maryland House, but failed in the Senate. This year, they continue their fight for survivors in Maryland. The full hearing is around two hours long, so we will release them one after another. During this first part the panel, consisting of survivors and experts, will speak to the committee members. After each panel speaks, the committee members ask questions prior to the next panel. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In Annapolis, Maryland on Feb 20th survivors Teresa Lancaster and Jean Wehner joined other survivors and experts to speak at a hearing to state committee members on why the Hidden Predator Act of 2020 should be passed. This act would eliminate the statute of limitations for abuse victims, allowing them to have their day in civil court to expose their abuser. Last year this act passed the Maryland House but failed in the Senate. This year, they continue their fight for survivors in Maryland. The full hearing is around two hours long, so we will release them one after another. During this first part the panel, consisting of survivors and experts, will speak to the committee members. There are 3 panels in this first episode, with Jean speaking in the last one. After each panel speaks, the committee members ask questions prior to the next panel. Next week’s episode will include Teresa Lancaster.This podcast is sponsored by Best Fiends Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 3] Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 2] Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane discuss different aspects of the case, along with answering questions submitted by listeners. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma discuss ways to speak to children about abuse, and how to possibly recognize non-verbal signs/indications of possible abuse.  Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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CAUTION: This episode contains graphic forensic contentGemma discusses Sister Cathy's case with Forensic Pathologist Dr. Werner Spitz, who was the Medical Examiner for Baltimore when Cathy was murdered. Dr. Spitz has worked on a number of high-profile cases, including the investigations of the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. He also testified at the trials of Casey Anthony and Phil Spector, the 1996 civil trial against O.J. Simpson, and consulted on the investigation of JonBenet Ramsey's 1996 death. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 4] Shane sits down for an in-depth Four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 2] Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 2] Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane sits down for an in-depth four-part podcast to examine the case with Investigative Journalist Tom Nugent.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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50 years ago today, at approximately 7 pm Eastern Time, Sister Cathy would leave her Carriage House Apartment for the very last time. The world has become aware of Cathy’s tragic fate that night - so today Gemma and I ask you to take a moment to remember Cathy. You see, Cathy was a real person, with dreams and goals of her own. On November 7th, 1969 Cathy’s life was taken - but her memory lives strongly in those whose lives she touched. These are some of those memories… Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down to discuss the day Hunter George found Sister Cathy's remains. This is the first time Hunter George has been questioned about the case since that day in 1970.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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{Part 2} Shane and Gemma sit down with Journalist Tom Nugent to discuss his role in Netflix's docu-series "The Keepers" along with Sister Cathy's case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down with Journalist Tom Nugent to discuss his role in Netflix's docu-series "The Keepers" along with Sister Cathy's case.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us at itsfoulplay.comSupport the show: Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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[Part 2] Gemma and Shane sit down with Sr. Rose Pacatte to discuss Sr. Cathy leaving the convent and her status at the time she was murdered.Sr. Rose Pacatte, a member of the Daughters of St. Paul, is the founding Director of the Pauline Center for Media Studies in Los Angeles.She is an award-winning film journalist and author or co-author of fifteen titles on film, film, and scripture and media literacy education. She has a Master's of Education in Media Studies from the University of London and is a D.Min candidate. You can learn more about her at www.sisterrosemovies.net. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane sit down with Sr. Rose Pacatte to discuss Sr. Cathy leaving the convent and her status at the time she was murdered. Sr. Rose Pacatte, a member of the Daughters of St. Paul, is the founding Director of the Pauline Center for Media Studies in Los Angeles.She is an award-winning film journalist and author or co-author of fifteen titles on film, film, and scripture and media literacy education. She has a Master's of Education in Media Studies from the University of London and is a D.Min candidate. You can learn more about her at www.sisterrosemovies.net. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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During last week’s conversation with MKUltra Survivor, we discussed briefly some of the documents the CIA released that touched slightly on their psychological testing done under MKUltra. What I am about to read to you is a redacted CIA document from 1951, two children were used in the experiment and the document explains both are young girls. Although this document does not talk about sexual testing, please be advised that what you are about to hear may be triggering if you are a survivor. This document is proof of one type of testing the CIA did on children involving being in a trance and ensuring their subjects had complete amnesia. TRIGGER WARNING Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comNetflix's 'The Keepers'You can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma further their discussion with MKUltra Survivor Lynn, who links the CIA program with Gynecologist Dr. Christian Richter and Maskell's abuse ring. * TRIGGER WARNING ****Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Shane and Gemma as they discuss the MKUltra program with survivor Lynn, who also is able to link the program with the Gynecologist Dr. Christian Richter.  Trigger Warning Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Trigger Warning Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Ross.Could Fr. Maskell have been a part of the CIA Program MKUltra? Shane and Gemma sit down with Dr. Colin Ross to discuss the CIA program MKUltra as well as memory. Dr. Ross is an internationally renowned clinician, researcher, author, and lecturer in the field of dissociation and trauma-related disorders. He is the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma. Dr. Ross has authored 29 books and over 200 professional papers, has reviewed for numerous professional journals and grant agencies, and is a past President of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Could Fr. Maskell have been a part of the CIA Program MKUltra? Shane and Gemma sit down with Dr. Colin Ross to discuss the CIA program MKUltra as well as memory. Dr. Ross is an internationally renowned clinician, researcher, author, and lecturer in the field of dissociation and trauma-related disorders. He is the founder and President of The Colin A. Ross Institute for Psychological Trauma. Dr. Ross has authored 29 books and over 200 professional papers, has reviewed for numerous professional journals and grant agencies, and is a past President of the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This is the second part of our discussion with Attorney Beverly Wallace.Gemma and Shane sit down with Attorney Beverly Wallace to discuss her role in the 90s "Doe Roe" trial where she represented Jean Wehner in her case against Fr Maskell, Dr. Richter, SSND, and the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Join us next week for the last half of the discussion!Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane sit down with Attorney Beverly Wallace to discuss her role in the 90s "Doe Roe" trial where she represented Jean Wehner in her case against Fr Maskell, Dr. Richter, SSND, and the Archdiocese of Baltimore. Join us next week for the last half of the discussion!Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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TRIGGER WARNING Final Part 3 : Shane and Gemma sit down with Ellen Lacter, Ph.D., Licensed Clinical Psychologist to discuss extreme abuse and how it can impact victim-survivors and their memories. Joining us on this multiple part episode discussion is Jean Wehner, also known as Jane Doe during the mid-90s lawsuit.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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TRIGGER WARNING Part 2 : Shane and Gemma sit down with Ellen Lacter, Ph.D., Licensed Clinical Psychologist to discuss extreme abuse and how it can impact victim-survivors and their memories. Joining us on this multiple part episode discussion is Jean Wehner, also known as Jane Doe during the mid-90s lawsuit.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down with Ellen Lacter, Ph.D., Licensed Clinical Psychologist to discuss extreme abuse and how it can impact victim-survivors and their memories. Joining us on this multiple part episode discussion is Jean Wehner, also known as Jane Doe during the mid-90s lawsuit.TRIGGER WARNING Jean is aware that the topic we are about to discuss is difficult to hear, so she warns that the conversation you are about to listen to is painfully raw and can’t help but be upsetting, especially if you are a survivor. However, it is necessary to talk about such things in order for us to separate victim from abuser, so we can see how systematically premeditated Maskell and other perpetrators are in their efforts to make their victims believe they are solely responsible for what happened to them. Knowing how triggering it is for her to just talk about what the abusers made her do, feel & think she recommends that survivors have their therapists or close supporters listen to this 3 part interview before or with them. As always don’t feel you need to listen!Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane sit down with two long time listeners who are very active in the 'Foul Play' discussion group to discuss some new information recently learned. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane sit down to discuss the details surrounding Joyce Malecki's unsolved murder case with Joyce's family. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters sit down with Mary Spence, a former Keough student who overheard a man yelling loudly from the direction of Cathy's apartment building around the time Cathy could have made it back from shopping. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma explore Baltimore, specifically at the places of importance to Sister Cathy and Joyce's cases. The audio from this episode was recorded remotely along streets and in woods so be prepared for noise from passing traffic and stubborn wind.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. GoFundMe for Survivors: https://www.gofundme.com/5au8h7cVisit our website: itsfoulplay.comNetflix's 'The Keepers'Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This week Gemma and Shane sat down to discuss the crazy 'Kelly the box girl' scenario we reminded you of last week when we searched all over the world for a box of evidence. Our special guest is who we later found out to be a victim in this scam - and who we referred to as 'Jane the phone lady' when we first presented the episode last week. Make sure you have already re-listened to last week's episode! Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Many of you have been reaching out asking where you can find two episodes Gemma and I have referenced in the podcast a few times on Kelly the Box Girl. In February of 2018, Gemma and I worked together to chase a promising lead after The Keepers was released. The two episodes are really far back in the podcast’s archives so to help listeners find it we decided to release the two episodes combined for this week’s episode in our Sister Cathy series. What you are about to hear is a series of odd events that resulted in us trying to track down a box of what seemed to be very important evidence. Stick around to the very end to hear our conclusion. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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A few weeks ago we shared that House Bill 687, also known as The Hidden Predator Act of 2019, was being sponsored by CT Wilson. House Delegate Wilson’s Bill would end Maryland’s statute of limitations for civil claims against perpetrators of child sex abuse - and would also include a 2 year look-back window, a time which victims could bring claims in cases where the previous statute of limitations has expired. If you’ve seen The Keepers, you will remember Delegate Wilson speaking on his experience as a survivor and how hard it is to pass laws that the Archdiocese fights against. This week we want you to hear Delegate Wilson’s speech as well as the back and forth in Annapolis, Maryland in March at the Judicial Proceedings Committee. 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys are sexually abused in the United States - and to this day most still have not disclosed their abuse publicly. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Follow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In Maryland Shane and Gemma sit down to discuss the Cemetery dig that uncovered a large room-sized hole in the ground that Fr Maskell used to hide documents and photos. Accompanying this podcast is a short video on the cemetery dig which can be found in the Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion Group.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 2 of the conversation.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane and Gemma sit down in Gemma's kitchen to discuss the entirety of the timeline surrounding Sister Cathy's case. From the life and death of Fr Maskell, to the time leading and after Cathy's disappearance - we hope this episode will let you know a clearer picture of the sequence of events. This is part 1 of the conversation. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane travels to the Baltimore area for a week - recording many episodes including this one in Greenbelt, MD with Survivor Teresa and call-in with Survivor Donna. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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PART 2: Gemma and Shane discuss the case, as well as answer questions that listeners have sent in.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma and Shane discuss the case, as well as answer questions that listeners have sent in. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This is part 2 of our discussion with Lil. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Around the same time Sister Cathy went missing in 1969, Father Maskell started looking for a confidential secretary. Student Lil Hughes (Knipp) agreed to fill this position.Some episode corrections: Lil has 7 siblings, not 8. Her dad was in the service but was home for Christmas. When Lil mentioned that those who work in a private school has access to a lot of information, she would like to clarify that files are kept confidential HOWEVER she believes Fr Maskell bullied the nuns at the school and acted as though he was the person in charge. This provided him with access to private and confidential information on students.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In last week’s interview with Sean Caine from the Archdiocese of Baltimore - one of the subjects we discussed was when abuse allegations against Father Maskell first happened. Caine says according to their documents the first accusations were in the 90s when Jean Wehner came forward during the Doe/Roe lawsuit. When asked about Charles’ statement that his mother went to the diocese when he as being abused, Caine said they have no documentation of it happening. What we know is that after Charles’ mother found out, Maskell was moved. Now we bring you the story of another who says they too reported the abuse - which resulted in Fr Maskell being removed from Archbishop Keough High School.Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Part 2: The following interview is with the Vice-Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts, and there have been no edits or production added to the interview. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Part 1: The following interview is with the Vice-Chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. We will release this interview in two parts, and there have been no edits or production added to the interview. In the second part, it was mentioned they fear being taken out of context by editing. If you are a survivor of clergy abuse in Baltimore, please take caution when listening as this could be a trigger. This is the first time we have been able to sit down for a discussion with the Archdiocese, so please remember as a journalist, I will be remaining respectful but determined.  Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Part 2: We continue our conversation with Sharon Bush - she explained she was present in the apartment shortly before Sister Cathy disappeared. Later that night Sister Russell, Sharon’s best friend, called her worried that Cathy never returned. Early the next morning Sharon made her way to their apartment, being confronted by Sister Russell and a detective once she made it inside the apartment. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Part 1: I’ve seen it before, a cold case stays unsolved until someone comes forward with information they thought was unimportant. It’s an important lesson to learn - if you know anything, no matter how insignificant and small you think it may be, it may be an important piece to the larger puzzle. We have thought for a long time that surely Cathy’s friend and roommate Sister Russell must have known of the abuse at Keough - and wondered if they ever told the police. Now - we have a first-hand eye witness account of the man in the trench coat. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Part 2: Joining Gemma and Shane for a two-part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix's 'The Keepers' and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as 'Jane Doe' during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book 'Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems' referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Joining Gemma and Shane for a two part episode in our series on the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik is Ryan White and Jean Wehner. Ryan White is the director of Netflix's 'The Keepers' and provides an insight on the making of the docu-series and speaks to the aftermath of its release. Jean Wehner was the first survivor to come forward in the 90s which resulted in her being known as 'Jane Doe' during the trial against Maskell and the Baltimore AOB. Jean Wehner's book 'Conversations with My Self: A Collections of Poems' referenced in this episode can be found on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Conversations-My-Self-Collection-Poems/dp/1974010066 Correction: The judge Jean speaks of is named Hilary Caplan. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This special episode features hosts Shane and Gemma discussing the details that have led them here. We will return on January 8th with an interview with Jean (aka Jane Doe) and Ryan White (director) of Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers'. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This episode is dedicated to teachers and their students. Teachers, stay vigilant because you never know. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This week’s guest has a unique insight into both Cathy and Russell’s personalities. They were her teachers, and later her friends. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Dr. Lee Richmond was a professor of Education at Loyola University Maryland in the area of school counseling. She is a licensed psychologist in the state of Maryland and is well known for her knowledge in counseling. Dr. Richmond is also uniquely qualified to tell us about her friendship with a previous post-master student of hers at Loyola - someone we know as Father Joseph Maskell. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Please be advised this episode contains content and language that is graphic in nature, listener discretion is strongly advised. Where were you at in life at the age of 13? Personally, I remember being in 8th grade using my free time to binge read Harry Potter books. Charles Franz had a much different experience… For more than 5 years Charles fell victim to a predator - someone he knew as Father Joseph Maskell. You have heard from female survivors so far in this series, but Maskell’s reign of terror wasn’t limited to gender or age. Charles is an amazing person, we thank him for sharing his story with us. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This special episode consists of Gemma and Shane answering questions many listeners have sent in about this case. We have several very eye-opening interviews coming up so stay tuned! Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Podcaster Brooke Gittings joins us to discuss her knowledge of the assistant state's attorney Sharon May. This is an episode you do not want to miss! Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Sharon’s uncle Billy happens to live in the apartment complex, granting him access to always being able to know when Cathy enters and leaves. He could easily be seen as someone who wouldn’t bring attention to himself for lingering around the place while waiting for Cathy to return home from shopping. And conveniently her car is later dropped just around the corner to his patio door. Sharon joins us again to talk more about her Uncle Billy - I will leave it up to you to decide what is more than just a coincidence. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's "The Keepers"Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Although several victims of Father Maskell came forward in the 90s, Sharon May at the prosecuting office refused to go forward with charges. Many questions arose as to why​ in 'The Keepers' Sharon May suggested she just didn’t think she had enough to convict him of charges… more on this later. When criminal charges were going nowhere, two women, who choose to keep their identity secret, came forward to sue in civil court: Jane Doe and Jane Roe. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's 'The Keepers'Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This is a short special episode for Halloween 2018. Shane shares a story about a haunted forest in Peru, Indiana.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private Facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Today you are going to hear from a very brave survivor who wasn’t featured in The Keepers. Michele Stanton can link Edgar Davison with Officer James Scannell, a very important connection. We know already of Father Maskell’s strong ties to the police department, its starting to get harder to doubt the involvement of this monster whom seems to have always been lurking in the shadows. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupNetflix's "The Keepers"Survivors' FundSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This episode may not be appropriate for all listeners. Details about sexual abuse will be discussed - listener discretion is advised. Now a Nurse Practitioner, Donna Vondenbosch was ritually abused by Father Joseph Maskell. After years of abuse, Maskell also left Donna with a hypnotic suggestion that if she ever told anyone about her experience she would then have to commit suicide. This is Donna’s story. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Investigative Reporter Bob Erlandson sits down with Gemma and Shane to discuss all aspects of Sister Cathy's murder, cover up of abuse, as well as the ongoing events surrounding sexual abuse in Baltimore. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Survivor Cindy Lovell suffered for a year and a half of ritual rape and abuse by Father Joseph Maskell while attending Archbishop Keough High School. She had no control, no choice, and those whom she told and asked for help did not believe her. When 'The Keepers' was being filmed she was not quite ready to share her horrific story with the world - but now she is. Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters as they continue the conversation that Netflix's Docu-Series "The Keepers" shared with the world in 2017. Although Gemma and many people you hear from were featured in the Docu-Series; This production is not affiliated with Netflix. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters sit down with Sharon Schmidt to discuss her family, including her uncle that lived across from Sister Cathy at the time of her murder. Sharon also discusses another bizarre unsolved murder that happened in her family only a couple years after Sister Cathy's murder. Two unsolved murders happening around the same man, is it a coincidence? Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters in this new podcast series about the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, featured on Netflix's Docs-Series 'The Keepers'. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Gemma Hoskins and Shane Waters in this new podcast series about the unsolved murder of Sister Cathy Cesnik, featured on Netflix's Docs-Series 'The Keepers'. On this episode you are introduced to the series and hear the very first conversation Shane and Gemma shared about the docu-series, murder, and abuse from the beginning of 2017. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Shane and Gemma as they discuss the final victim of the Redhead Murders, Summarize what we know so far, and end the series with a very promising update and lead! Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane discusses the very first victim thought to be linked to the Redhead Murders found in Wetzel County, West Virginia. Also in on the discussion is grassroots amateur investigator featured on Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' - Gemma Hoskins, along with Kayla Vandeventer who was a student in Teacher Alex's high school sociology class featured previously in the series. Could a trucker navigate the winding road this Jane Doe was found off of? Could this victim be related although she was older than all the others? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Today is Father's day, so I wanted to share with you a special story about a tragedy that happened in my own family. On November 14, 1979, my dad was hit by a drunk driver - after 42 days in a coma he defied the doctors and woke up. My dad, and my family, were never the same again - but the question remains on if some things happen for a reason. If my dad were never in this horrific accident, I never would have been born.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Shane as he drives the same route the Bible Belt Strangler took after he picked up the Redheaded Jane Doe from King's Truck Stop In Barbourville, Kentucky. You will also hear about the stories of two other redheaded women who were almost kidnapped around the same place and time as our murder victim. Are they related or is it a coincidence? With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane travels again to Elizabethton, Tennessee, to join the high school sociology class at a press conference to tell the world about the Redhead Murders and the Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Join Shane as he travels to Barbourville, Kentucky to trace the steps the Bible Belt Strangler made when he killed an innocent victim along 25E. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Traveling to Elizabethton, Tennessee, Shane speaks with a Sociology class at Elizabethton High School about the Redhead Murders. This semester they have been challenged by their teacher to study and report on the Redhead Murders. After discovering my podcast, I traveled to their school to hear about the work they have done so far. On this episode, you hear from these students as they read to you their 8-page Profile of the person responsible for these murders. To express that we all do believe that these six women were victims of a serial killer, I challenged the class to give him a name. The Bible Belt Strangler. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster, Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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In our third installment in the series on the Redhead Murders, you hear from a young lady that believes the Jane Doe found murdered inside a fridge in 1985 Barbourville, Kentucky, is her mother. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Join host and investigative podcaster Shane Waters, alongside Netflix's Docu-Series 'The Keepers' grassroots investigator Gemma Hoskins as they explore this forgotten serial killer case.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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This is the second episode in our series on the Redhead Murders. With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. Shane visits the site where the victim covered in episode one was found, and Gemma Hoskins joins the podcast to help find answers to who these women are and who is responsible for their murders. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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With numerous female victims, this series of murders remains an unsolved murder mystery. This introduction episode will tell you a little about the Redhead Murders, which was investigated by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) initially thirty years ago. This episode introduces the only victim whose identity is known, Lisa Nichols. Lisa was 28 at the time of her murder and was originally from West Virginia. There is no publicly shared photo of Lisa, and not much is known about her life and past. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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If you haven't listened to the first episode Gemma Hoskins and I created two weeks ago, please go back and listen before listening to this! This is an important update to hear, after our search for the lead on the box of evidence in Sister Cathy's murder.  "The Keepers" is a Netflix Documentary series that Gemma Hoskins is featured in as one of the two grassroots amateur detectives who refuses to let the murder of Sister Cathy die from the public eye.  Disclaimer: This podcast episode has no affiliation with Tripod Media or Netflix Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Shane teams up with Gemma Hoskins, featured on 'The Keepers', to find Kelly 'the box girl'. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion Group Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Marie was 18 years old when she went missing, she was last seen wearing a sweater and blue jeans. She and her fiance had gone to an indoor flea market at Eagles Hall in Chico, CA, on January 31, 1976. It was there that an argument ensued between the two. Marie decided that she was going to go home, before leaving the market she stopped to ask for directions as she wasn’t very familiar with the area. Marie would then set out alone, on foot, walking down the side of a Chico street. That would be the last time anyone ever saw Marie again.That is until a lady comes forward years later with a crazy story about abduction, rape, torture, and murder. Join us on this episode as we discuss this case fully, with narration performed by Justin Rimmel.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Early Tuesday morning on April 10th, 1933, freshly fallen snow surrounds Johnson's farmhouse in Chisago County, Minnesota. The dark night air is chilly, and outside the house is a flatbed truck packed full of the family's belongings. Later this day the family is going to move into a new home... at least that was the plan. This is the story of the death of Alvira Johnson and her 7 children, and the disappearance and manhunt of her husband Albin. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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April 13, 1977 - Tofield, Alberta, Canada. Charlie and his wife Mavis McLeod decided today they will start installing a new septic tank on their rural property. The sky was clear, the sun was bright, and the temperature was a warm 64.4 degrees Fahrenheit - a perfect day for such a project. Until they find human remains in the old septic tank. DISCLAIMER: This episode features graphic detail that may not be suited for all audiences. Listener discretion is strongly advised.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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While exploring an old museum in Wabash, Indiana - Shane discovers the old basement holds a secret. Join Shane as he sits down with a Historian to discuss why there is a box in the basement of the Wabash County Historical Museum that is full of the bones of a mid-1800s serial killer. This episode was recorded at the Wabash County Historical Museum in Wabash, Indiana. Visit their website at WabashMuseum.org.Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)

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Catherine Winters was only nine years old when she disappeared from her hometown of New Castle, Indiana on March 20th, 1913. Catherine's disappearance remains the oldest Unsolved Disappearance in the state of Indiana, as well as one of the oldest in the United States. Featuring Author Lisa Perry. Visit us online at itsfoulplay.comYou can support our show at Patreon.com/itsfoulplayFollow and interact with us:Twitter - @thefoulplaypodInstagram - @itsfoulplaypodJoin in on the discussion on our private facebook group:Foul Play - Crime Podcast Discussion GroupSupport the show (https://www.patreon.com/itsfoulplay)