RD Real Talk - Registered Dietitians Keeping it Real: Recent Episodes

Heather Caplan

Dietitians have a lot to say about nutrition, food, and health. Join host Heather Caplan and her registered dietitian (RD) peers as they talk shop, share their philosophies, and keep it real with you. Discussion topics include weight-inclusive nutrition and dietetics, intuitive eating, sports nutrition, career paths, and more.

What do you actually eat when your body is healing — and you're not allowed to move?

That's the question Shira Evans, RD, CSSD, found herself living through after a significant cycling accident left her with a concussion, road rash, and a scapula broken in two places. As a sports dietitian who specializes in REDs and disordered eating in athletes, she knew exactly what to do nutritionally — but navigating the mental health piece, the unsolicited body comments, and the slow, humbling process of returning to sport? That was a whole other conversation.

Shira is a registered dietitian and board-certified specialist in sports dietetics based in Oregon. She's a lifelong athlete, Boston Marathon qualifier, and cross-country cyclist who works virtually with athletes and active individuals throughout the US. She specializes in sports performance nutrition, REDs, and disordered eating and eating disorders in athletes — including gender-affirming nutrition support for non-binary and trans athletes. She is also a Lane 9 Directory dietitian.

Chapters

[00:04:00] How Shira got into sports nutrition — and why she created her own path

[00:06:00] Her sports nutrition philosophy: finding the gray space when everything feels black and white

[00:09:00] Cycling across the country — twice — and why the bike unlocked a different kind of adventure

[00:11:00] The accident: concussion, broken scapula, and road rash — what happened and what came next

[00:12:00] Unsolicited body comments: navigating them in real time and the parallel to athletes with REDs

[00:18:00] Why injury increases energy needs — and why that's hard to honor when you're not moving

[00:21:00] What eating actually looked like: 3 meals, 4–5 snacks, and the pre-breakfast snack strategy

[00:25:00] Starting sports psych and ERP to get comfortable being near her bike again

[00:29:00] Supplements that helped: Juven, HMB, calcium, vitamin D, and higher-dose fish oil for concussion

[00:34:00] Return to run: getting cleared doesn't mean it's going to feel good — and that's okay

Resources mentioned:

Juven — amino acid supplement for wound healing; contains collagen, vitamin C, and protein
HMB (beta-hydroxy beta-methylbutyrate) — leucine derivative shown to help maintain muscle mass during limb immobilization
Fairlife milk — lactose-reduced option Shira used in calorie-dense smoothies during recovery
Find Shira Evans, RD, CSSD at https://shiraevansrd.com/ or in the Lane 9 Directory: lane9project.org/directory

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.

What does it look like to chase a goal and then permit yourself to let it breathe for a season?

Host Heather Caplan, RDN, is joined by her Lane 9 co-founder Alexis Fairbanks for an informal midsummer catch-up. They talk travel, food culture in Spain and Portugal, the very real struggle of treadmill running, women's sports they're following right now, and what Alexis is training for after deciding to take a much-needed break from marathon training. They also check in on Alexis's sub-3 marathon goal (where she's gotten as close as 3:02) and what it looks like to stop forcing it and let the training come to you instead.

It's the kind of conversation they don't get to have nearly enough, since they live in different time zones and their schedules are constantly pulled in different directions. But when they do, it's a good one.

Chapters

07:57- Food culture while traveling and eating without overthinking it in Barcelona and Mallorca 12:15- What Alexis is training for now, and why taking a break from marathon training felt like a relief 20:45- Heather on having no running goals right now, and why that's okay 21:00- Checking in on Alexis's sub-3 goal: how close she's gotten, what's worked, and what hasn't 25:00- How to hold a big goal without letting it haunt you 25:45- What's exciting in women's sports right now

31:30- Bar IX Detroit, a women's sports bar in crowdfunding mode

Resources mentioned:

Megan Rapinoe's Podcast — World Cup-focused episodes with Rose Lavelle, Lindsey Horan, and more
Bar IX Detroit — a women's sports bar in crowdfunding; follow along on Instagram
Taylored Training Run — Becky Anthony's coaching group, now featuring Alexis; find her in the Lane 9 Directory
Lane 9 Substack — Alexis writes monthly training missives; Heather sends Friday notes on REDs, fueling, and women's sports

Connect + get support:

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.
Are you a clinician or coach? If this conversation resonated with you professionally, Lane 9 Membership was built for you. Join a community of dietitians, DPTs, psychologists, sports medicine providers, and coaches who are doing this work, and get listed in the Lane 9 Directory so athletes can find you. Future clinicians and coaches are welcome too.
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"I have no doubt you could run that half-marathon, but I understand the hesitation."

That note from her physical therapist is what Host Heather Caplan, RDN, needed to hear, and this episode is her passing it along to you.

It's midsummer. Schedules are chaotic, training cycles are in-between, and sometimes the most useful thing a podcast can do is just pause and remind you: you've come further than you think.

In this solo episode, Heather reads a Substack essay she wrote in May after a long season of navigating plantar fasciitis, a hamstring tweak, a race she almost didn't run, and the slow, non-linear work of rebuilding. She reflects on why acknowledging the progress we've made is just as important as chasing the next goal.

Whether you're in the middle of REDs recovery, returning from injury, navigating a hard training cycle, or just feeling like you're far from where you want to be, this one's for you!

Resources mentioned:

Lane 9 Substack - Friday morning notes on REDs, periods, nutrition, women's sports, and more
Stephanie Flippen - Heather's running coach
Nancy Boyd, DPT - Heather's physical therapist and Lane 9 Directory member

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What does it take to reach sub-3 with your period intact and your body well-fueled?

That's the question Coach Laura Filla can now answer from experience. After four years, ten marathons, low ferritin, grief, a coaching business, and two kids, Laura crossed the finish line at Bayshore 2026 in 2:58:43. Host Heather Caplan, RDN, sits down with Laura to talk through the whole arc: what changed, what didn't, and why the breakthrough finally came when she stopped white-knuckling her training and started thriving through it.

Laura Filla is a marathoner, mom, RRCA Level 2 Certified Running Coach, and ACE Certified Personal Trainer. She founded Filla Endurance in 2021 with a focus on helping runners get the best out of themselves in a way that supports their long-term health. She's also a Lane 9 Directory coach.

Chapters

03:58- Laura's first marathon and what made her want to go faster

08:20- When sub-3 first felt possible: the 3:06 breakthrough at Indianapolis

12:31- What people don't see behind a fast marathon time

13:52- Fueling in the early seasons and working with a dietitian for the first time

17:58- Navigating grief, setbacks, and a ferritin of 14

19:32- How low ferritin showed up in training and how she finally fixed it

26:31- Tracking cycles and fueling through high-mileage weeks

29:41- Process-based goals and celebrating wins before the finish line

35:26- Race day at Bayshore: the pace group, recalibrating, and the ducks

40:33- The pain cave during the last couple of miles, the mantra, and crossing sub-3

43:46- Race fueling strategy: 84 grams per hour

Resources mentioned:

Filla Endurance - Laura's coaching business; follow her on Instagram at @coachlaura.run
Laces and Legends Podcast - Laura's podcast highlighting women runners in the St. Louis running community
Garmin app (cycle tracking)
Connect with Laura through the Lane 9 Directory at lane9project.org/directory

Connect + get support:

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.
Are you a clinician or coach? If this conversation resonated with you professionally, Lane 9 Membership was built for you. Join a community of dietitians, DPTs, psychologists, sports medicine providers, and coaches who are doing this work, and get listed in the Lane 9 Directory so athletes can find you. Future clinicians and coaches are welcome too.
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What does it actually take to diagnose REDs, and what happens after?

If you've ever wondered what's going on behind the scenes when a sports medicine physician suspects REDs, this episode is your inside look. Host Heather Caplan, RDN, sits down with Dr. Rosa Pasculli, a non-operative sports medicine physician based in Atlanta, to walk through the full medical picture: how REDs gets diagnosed, what labs actually matter and why, and what treatment looks like in practice. It's a masterclass in multidisciplinary care, and a reminder of just how important it is to have a physician on your team who knows how to ask the right questions.

Dr. Pasculli is a former competitive dancer turned sports medicine physician with a particular clinical interest in bone stress injuries and REDs. She is the head team physician for Emory University, overseeing 450+ varsity athletes, and serves as a consulting physician for the Atlanta Ballet, the Georgia Ballet, and the Atlanta Falcons Cheerleaders. She also sees runners, weekend warriors, and masters athletes, including, as she mentions in this episode, an 80-year-old woman doing an Ironman.

07:59- How Rosa got into sports medicine and the female athlete space 12:44- What she's seeing in the clinic: awareness of REDs and where education still falls short 14:47- REDs as a diagnosis of exclusion: what that means and why it takes a team 15:51- Lab work 101: CBC, CMP, ferritin, thyroid, and what Rosa is actually looking for 21:48- DEXA scans: who needs one and when, including the Female Athlete Triad Coalition's updated guidelines 24:22- Medical management of REDs: risk stratification, the REDs CAT2 tool, and keeping athletes in sport where possible 25:26- When it becomes dangerous: bradycardia, orthostatic changes, and the malnourished heart 28:34- Setting expectations with patients and parents around timeline and testing frequency 30:31- The Emory Women's Sports Medicine program and the cross-institutional community behind it

Resources mentioned:

IOC RED-S CAT2 Tool (2023)- free Excel-based risk stratification tool for clinicians
Female Athlete Triad Coalition- updated DEXA scan guidelines for adolescent and adult athletes
Emory Women's Sport and Wellness Conference- Saturday, August 15th, in-person and virtual; registration opening soon
Connect with Dr. Pasculli through the Lane 9 Directory at lane9project.org/directory

Connect + get support:

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.
Are you a clinician or coach? If this conversation resonated with you professionally, Lane 9 Membership was built for you. Join a community of dietitians, DPTs, psychologists, sports medicine providers, and coaches who are doing this work, and get listed in the Lane 9 Directory so athletes can find you. Future clinicians and coaches are welcome too.
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What does it actually take to build a girls' running program from three athletes to a full roster, and what does it cost the coach who gets it there?

That's at the heart of this conversation with Miran McCash: high school cross country and track head coach at Highline High School, and owner of ANA Run Coaching, an all-women adult running coaching business based in Seattle. Host Heather Caplan, RDN, and Miran talk about what it's really like to be a woman in a head coaching role, how she's creating space for girls to talk about their bodies and their periods, and why representation on the coaching staff is the reason girls stay in sport.

08:54- Teaching girls' weight training and building confidence in the weight room

11:11- Growing up with all-male coaches and how it shaped her

15:31- Growing the girls' cross-country team from 3 athletes to a full roster

16:29- Incentives, belonging, and why cross-country culture matters

23:28- How Miran talks to her athletes about periods, REDs, and changing the language around bodies

29:18- Balancing the financial and emotional load of coaching at a Title I school

36:59- Why women aren't signing up for coaching positions

40:16- Over-scheduling, under-recovering: the injury surge Miran is watching in real time

46:09- Going part-time teaching to grow ANA Coaching, and South End Running Exchange

Resources mentioned:

Bras for Girls: the organization Miran brought to her school to provide sports bras to female athletes across all spring sports
Better, Faster, Farther by Maggie Mertens- includes the story of Bobbi Gibbs running the Boston Marathon before Katherine Switzer, in a bathing suit (no sports bras yet)
Lane 9 Episode with Mary Cain mentioned
Follow Miran on Instagram
Follow Miran's business, ANA Coaching, on Instagram
Follow the South End Running Exchange on Instagram

Connect + get support:

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.
Are you a clinician or coach? If this conversation resonated with you professionally, Lane 9 Membership was built for you. Join a community of dietitians, DPTs, psychologists, sports medicine providers, and coaches who are doing this work, and get listed in the Lane 9 Directory so athletes can find you. Future clinicians and coaches are welcome too.

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What if we stopped treating sport like entertainment and started treating it like healthcare?

That's the question at the center of this conversation with Mary Cain: professional middle-distance runner, Stanford medical student, and New York Times Bestselling author of the new memoir This Is Not About Running. Host Heather Caplan, RDN, and Mary Cain talk about what it would actually take to change sports culture, including how we coach youth athletes, how providers diagnose and treat REDs, and what it means to find yourself outside of sport.

Chapters

09:10- What hope actually looks like in women's sports right now

11:32- Reframing athletics through a healthcare lens

14:01- What is an athlete? Rethinking youth sport, PE, and why kids drop out

18:49- Detaching from outcomes- what coaches, parents, and teammates can actually do to support athletes

23:28- Periods, pressure, and getting her first period in 10th grade

29:59- Flexibility and fueling across seasons

31:37- REDs vs. the Female Athlete Triad

32:34- Talking to athletes with body dysmorphia: a more trauma-informed approach

38:36- How Mary got diagnosed with REDs and navigated the healthcare system

44:47- When a non-sport therapist was exactly the right call

47:44- Writing This Is Not About Running while in med school

Resources mentioned:

This Is Not About Running by Mary Cain is available now
The Rich Roll Podcast
Another Mother Runner Podcast
Follow Mary on Instagram: @runmarycain

Connect + get support:

Are you an athlete? Find a sports dietitian, DPT, therapist, or coach who understands athletes at lane9project.org/directory.
Are you a clinician or coach? If this conversation resonated with you professionally, Lane 9 Membership was built for you. Join a community of dietitians, DPTs, psychologists, sports medicine providers, and coaches who are doing this work, and get listed in the Lane 9 Directory so athletes can find you. Future clinicians and coaches are welcome too.

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"Once I started doing more core work...prescribed to me by a pelvic floor DPT, and what everyone says you should be doing after pregnancy...I was feeling pain," shares Lane 9 Coach Becky Anthony, head coach and owner of Taylored Training Run.

Becky shares her story with a rare injury, osteitis pubis, which she was diagnosed with around three months postpartum. She was working with a physical therapist (DPT) on a return to run program, and had tried to check the boxes before getting back to the sport. But something felt wrong, and painful. And it took a little while to get an accurate diagnosis, and even longer before she was able to run again.

No two postpartum experiences are the same, even for one person. Becky shares this in hopes of helping the next parent build their care team—starting with nutrition, working with a DPT and a coach, etc.—and reminding parents to advocate for themselves, and their care.

Connect with Becky through the Lane 9 Directory, at Lane9project.org/directory. Follow her coaching online at @tayloredtrainingrun, on Instagram.

Find a sports dietitian, DPT, and other healthcare providers who know how to support you, the athlete and (maybe also) the parent, by going to Lane9project.org/directory.

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"The [symtpoms] of under-fueling, and REDs, make it a lot harder to meet your [calorie] needs," shares dietitian KC Stockmon. "It's kind of this vicious cycle."

We're here to talk about how many calories an athlete actually needs to be eating, WHY it's important to eat enough, and the symptoms of under-fueling. The problem is, under-fueling is so common in athletics that athletes are quick to dismiss their symptoms as just "part of training". When actually, if the body has the energy—aka calories—that it needs to function well and recover from your training sessions, you might feel great. You just don't know what you don't know.

That's why we're here, in Lane 9, with reminders to eat enough, fuel before during and after training sessions, and connect with sport-specialized healthcare providers when you need to!

Build your sport healthcare team—support with fueling, injuries, mental health, and medical support— by going to Lane9Project.org/directory

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If you're a clinician looking to join our Directory and clinical membership, head to Lane9project.org/join

" I also learned the hard way. I did pay the price for several years. I had a lot of injuries, and I was in the stress fracture cycle for seven years. And that was a wake-up call. It really showed me you're not invincible and, and you're gonna have to really learn how to do this differently," shares longtime Lane 9 supporter and community member, Amy Sams.

Amy reached out to Lane 9 last Fall seeking support from a dietitian in our Directory, finally ready to fueling adequately as she approached the California Internation Marathon in December (2025), with the goal to break 2:50 for the first time. And, a little spoiler: She did it!

Amy has spent decades navigating her history with an eating disorder, struggling with fueling and rest, and multiple bone stress injuries. She has run 25 marathons, but now feels like she's really tapping into her potential. Meanwhile, she reminds herself, she's "allowed to be a work in progress."

Build your sport healthcare team—support with fueling, injuries, mental health, and medical support— by going to Lane9Project.org/directory

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"It took me several injuries to really figure out...this is going to keep happening unless I do something big about it," shares coach and DPT Bethany Brausen, a member of the Lane 9 Membership and clinical directory.

And we want to help young athletes figure those things out a lot sooner, so they have more fun training and competing, tap into their athletic potential, and/or find longevity in the sports they love.

This conversation covers periods, bone stress injuries, team culture and conversations about fueling and menstrual health, when to pause training or take seasons off if an athlete isn't menstruating, and how to connect with a clinical care team when needed.

Bethany Brausen is a a Minnesota-based board-certified orthopedic clinical specialist and doctor of physical therapy. She's also a running coach for a high school cross country team. We talk about her experience as an athlete, and how she's taking what she learned, combined with her clinical expertise, to create healthier training and performance environments for her team.

Connect with Bethany Brausen DPT, and build your sport healthcare team, by going to Lane9Project.org/directory

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"Being the best is not the end all be all. And can you have self-confidence [in sport] without being the best?" Dr. Savannah Landis, Lane 9 Clinician, asks us to consider how perfectionism shows up in our sport experiences, and how to nurture a sense of self in and outside of sport, for athletes at all ages.

Dr. Savannah Landis is a licensed clinical and sports psychologist specializing in treating athletes with eating disorders as well as mental health issues regarding perfectionism, self-esteem, and identitiy. She was a competitive swimmer in college, and works with athletes at all levels of sport as they navigate the highs and lows.

Connect with Dr. Landis, and build your sport healthcare team, by going to Lane9Project.org/directory

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"I was honestly terrified of [pregnancy]. I feel like whenever I looked around in the sport, I didn't see it. And if someone did get pregnant, it seemed like they disappeared. And if they came back, it seemed like it was against all odds," Molly Huddle shares with the Lane 9 Podcast.

She is a 2x Olympian, has competed in six Olympic Trials throughout her career, and has run professionally with Saucony for 20 years. She has set multiple American Records, including the 5K, 10K, 10-miler and half-marathon, a few of which she still holds. And she was one of the first athletes to benefit from the Dream Maternity Campaign—activism organized around protecting pregnant and postpartum athletes with clauses in their professional contracts, instead of pausing their pay and their support.

Molly is candid with us about the fears she held around pregnancy and returning to high level racing, the injuries she has navigated in her postpartum training, how hard it is to breastfeed and eat enough and train for races, the support systems she has in place, and how she's embracing the things she cannot do right now (like, keep a really clean house—not a priority!).

She's working on a new book, and shares more about that, too!

If you're looking for support as a pregnant or postpartum athlete, head to Lane9Project.org/directory to connect with a Lane 9 clinician.

You're about the toe the line for your spring goal race, or you're mid-season for your sport and it's getting intense. Let's have a pep talk!

We're sharing this one because we are fully in the swing of the Spring sport season, and that might mean that you're bumping up against some internal resistance to do the things that you know would be helpful, but would also require changing some old habits.

You could be fueling more carb loading, or just eating enough in general. You could be focusing on getting your period back. You could be tapering or taking more consistent rest days. But if you're not doing those things right now and you know there's some change required to get from point A to point B with your health, you might be resisting some of those changes.

There is often some grief involved, grieving and old self. A body change, a sport change an identity shift. Whatever it may be, this resistance to change may present as some bargaining you may think. I know those things are healthy for some people, but I don't need to do them, or I don't need to change that much.

This episode is a reminder: You are unique, but you are NOT the exception to the known best practices for sports fueling, rest, and overall health. The work works.

If you are looking for support from a dietitian, therapist, sports medicine provider or PT, go to Lane9project.org/directory and connect with one of our clinicians!

Send us your questions, feedback, or a little love note anytime. We're here for it! Lane9project @ gmail dot com, or go to Lane9Project.org and click on "Contact".

" I've had a lot of colleagues who have navigated infertility and have been really open about it, which has helped me."

Professional runner Gabi Rooker joins the Lane 9 Podcast to talk about discovering she had a grapefruit-sized fibroid outside of her uterus, getting it removed, and navigating fertility treatments while still training for marathons like Chicago in 2025, and Boston 2026. She's been open about this process and how it's going for her, to help the next person navigate through own experiences and feel less alone along the way!

Follow and cheer for Gabi via her Instagram account, @gabirooker!

Connect with a clinician who is uniquely trained to support women in sport by going to Lane9Project.org/directory. Our providers have experience in treating all aspects of REDs, including period health and fertility support.

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"The athletic person is going to need more calories overall, and a lot of those calories should be coming from carbohydrates," shares Lane 9 clinician, Brooke Czarnecki RDN. We are talking ALL about carbs on this episode!

We talk about why athletes need to skirt the general nutrition advice and focus more on their unique needs, especially when it comes to carbs. We talk specifics, we talk tracking, we talk Low Carbohydrate Availability, and much more.

If you've noticed that your hemoglobin A1c numbers are high, or are wondering how low energy/carbohydrate availability may impact these biomarker, here's a great read from another Lane 9 clinician, Abby Chan RDN: "Why your hemoglobin A1c might be high, even if you're an endurance athlete"

If you have a question for the Lane 9 clinicians, send it to us via our contact form on Lane9Project.org.

Connect with Brooke, and other Lane 9 clinicians, by going to Lane9Project.org/directory. Follow us on Instagram @Lane9Project, and send us a message to say hi, anytime!

"We are not done [as athletes], by a certain age. And we should be able to push for what we want," shares athlete, advocate, and clinician, Meghan Vogt.

Meghan is part of the Lane 9 Clinician Membership and Directory, and posted to the Lane 9 Project Substack a few months ago, as she began to collect data for her dissertation project. She's studying "The Overlooked Connection Between Perimenopause, Disordered Eating, and REDs", as both a clinician, and someone with lived experience as an athlete navigating perimenopause, through a system that wasn't, and still isn't fully, designed to support her.

Listen to hear Meghan's story, why she's passionate about researching this growing percentage of people navigating perimenopause and athletics, and where we are seeing gaps in care for this season of life.

Connect with Meghan Vogt via her Lane 9 Directory profile, at lane9project.org/directory, or by going to athletealigned.com.

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"Injury is part of the athletic experience. Burnout, setbacks, losses...all of these things are part of being an athlete. There's nothing you can do to eliminate ALL risk of that," shares licensed therapist and sport psychology consultant, Olivia Papakyrikos. She is part of our Lane 9 Membership and Directory. Olivia was a collegiate athlete, and now supports athletes navigating things like injuries, body image struggles, and life transitions.

We talk about the stages of grief an athlete may experience when navigating an injury, why it's actually so disruptive to our sense of identity, and what to do about that.

Connect with Olivia Papakyrikos through Lane 9's Directory, or visit her site here.

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"Over the years, clients have shown me that recovery begins in spaces where they feel safe enough to tell the truth."

It's Eating Disorder Awareness Week and this year's theme is "Every Body Belongs". We wrote a little something about that on our newsletter, and shared here as well. We appreciated how eating disorder dietitian Marci Evans wrote the quote above in her newsletter this week, and have seen the same play out, here in Lane 9. We shared our stories, and it opened the door for other athletes to see what they could do the same, whether that's with us, or with someone they feel safe talking to. We hope to continue to nurture this space where your stories, and any and every body, are welcomed and held.

We're also here to help you take the next step toward eating disorder care, if you want/need it, with our Directory of Women's Health & Sport Clinicians. These are are clinicians vetted by Lane 9's team, and uniquely trained to support athletes with eating disorders and disordered eating. Go to Lane9project.org/directory to find a care team, or contact us.

Follow Lane 9 on Instagram @Lane9Project, and go to Lane9Project.org for more resources.

"The first time [younger female athletes] work with a barbell or trap bar or something, you can see it. They're like, 'this is bada**, this is awesome," shares physical therapist and ultra-endurance athlete, Hannah DePaul, on this episode about building bone density and weight lifting for female athletes (from highschool and up!).

Hannah DePaul is a former D1 Swimmer, who held multiple records at the University of Michigan, and has gone on to run ultra-marathons. She's currently training for The Huron 100, a point-to-point independent event based outside of Ann Arbor, MI. We have a few scholarship spots to give to Lane 9 athltes, for The Huron 50 or 100 mile distances! If this is something you're interested in, please reach out to us via Lane9Project @ gmail dot com.

Tune into this episode to hear Hannah bust some myths about strength training for high school female athletes, share how she addresses the WHOLE athlete not just the injury, how she screens for REDs and underfueling as a physical therapist (DPT), and how to actually incorporate strength training into your weekly routine even if your preferred form of movement is running, cycling, or swimming.

Hannah DePaul DPT is part of the Lane 9 Directory. You can find her and her clinic via Lane9project.org/directory or going to hannahdepaulpt.com

If you're looking for sports nutriton, mental health, or injury support for your next training cycle, and/or a coach informed in REDs and women's health, go to our Lane 9 Women's Sport and Health Directory at lane9project.org/directory.

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"I had girls come up to me and say, 'I haven't had my period in X amount of time, how do I get it back?'" Gracen Key, head coach for the Women's Distance program at Fort Lewis College (FLC) in Durango CO joins us to talk about creating a team culture where athletes feel comfortable asking questions like that.

Key joined FLC about two years ago, and is working hard to create a team cuture that celebrates fueling, regular periods, and self expression. After struggling with injuries, and eventually having surgery for a severe hip labrum tear, her personal athletic career seemed over but she was drawn to coaching by mentors in the sport. She's been at three programs so far, and feels strongly about her athletes having regular periods, eating enough, and performing in a way that feels best for them.

We got to bring a Lane 9 workshop to her team last year, and wanted to reconnect with Key to learn more about her coaching philosophies and approach. We hope it's helpful for you, too!

If you're looking for sports nutriton and marathon fueling support for your next training cycle, and/or a coach informed in REDs and women's health, go to our Lane 9 Women's Sport and Health Directory at lane9project.org/directory.

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"That really was the biggest thing during my marathon build is like, wow. Reminding myself to get back into those [fueling] habits, but also remembering I shouldn't need to train for a marathon to have these healthy habits," shares Melissa Berry, a former D1 Cross Country and Track runner for the University of Oregon. Berry ran her debut marathon at CIM 2025, in 2:35:57, getting her first OTQ in the marathon.

Berry grew up in Eugene OR and was excited to find herself at her hometown university as a collegiate athlete. She fueled well in highschool and saw big improvements, but struggled through injuries, inadequate fueling, and comparison to other athletes in college. It wasn't until Coach Shalane Flanagan joined the program, in Berry's penultimate season, that things started to turn around.

Berry shares her story with Lane 9, including how she joined the Tracksmith Stamata team to go for a marathon OTQ, thinking it would take a few years. But actually, it just took one try! Stay for the race recap and fueling lessons learned.

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"There are a lot of outside influences that challenge the way we experience our body, which accumulates to our own personal body image," shares Dr. Krissy Ladner, a sports dietitian in the Lane 9 Women's Sport & Health Directory.

Dr. Ladner joins us to talk about how body image dissatisfaction may impact our fueling and nutrition, our mental health, and our performance in sport. It's a very common thing for people socialized as women to struggle with, and of course athletes and people of all genders may struggle with body image concerns. She speaks to the importance of coaches (and athletic staff that frequently interact with athletes at various levels) being able to recognize behaviors and changes in an athlete's demeanor, or fueling habits, and how it may be tied to body image dissatisfaction. We also cover some ways to balance body image dissatisfaction with building positive body experiences.

We share some resources for learning more about this topic, including books, podcasts, and social media accounts (or general tips for shifting your algorithm!), and also acknowledge that we come to this conversation with our own body and societal privileges. So, maybe this is a place to start, but there are many more resources out there to continue learning!

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We are coming up on Lane 9's 9th birthday!! This episode gives you a big update on a new thing in Lane 9, for our athletes. Listen first, then go to Lane9project.org to join us!

If you're looking for sports nutriton and marathon fueling support for your next training cycle, and/or a coach informed in REDs and women's health, go to our Lane 9 Women's Sport and Health Directory at lane9project.org/directory.

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" It's interesting looking back because I normalized being hungry, normalized being super tired... and when you don't know that that's not normal, you're also not necessarily open to hearing otherwise because it sounds like somebody wants to hold you back from your performance."

Justine Fédronic immigrated to the US from Europe in elementary school. Before she learned English, she found a way to connect with her classmates at recess—through running. She showed talent on the run early, and a coach suggested she try for an athletic scholarship to college. She competed at Stanford, but not without some highs and lows.

Fédronic signed a professional running contract before graduating college, but her running career before and after this point was riddled with chronic bone stress and soft tissue injuries. She struggled with underfueling, irregular periods, and constantly having to take time off.

" A lot of college and high school, I really struggled with my mental health. And there was definitely a correlation between my stress injuries and my depression," she shares.

In this conversation with Lane 9, she shares how her running story didn't go as planned, and how she's found her way back to the sport without the pressures of performance and outcomes. She has worked with some of the brands you know and love, and is now working with the nonprofit For All Mothers+.

Connect with her on Instagram @jfedronic.

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"I was prioritizing the general trend toward a carb load, but it really kind of stressed me out in a way that I was a little bit surprised by. But also, we talk about this in the REDs space all the time—having energy is better than having no energy," shares REDs researcher Melissa (Mel) Lodge, whom you may know from following @FED_Collaborative on Instagram.

Lodge was an elite track and field athlete who competed collegiately, but hasn't tackled longer distances until now. (She's done some 10Ks, but never raced a half-marathon!) Her REDs and female athlete health reserach, along with the coursework she has completed for both her PhD and her dietetics cirruculum, certainly set her up with an immense fueling and health knowledge base going into this experience.

She ran her first marathon at the Wineglass Marathon in October 2025, crossing the finish line in 2:51:45, 3rd female overall and 1st in her age group (25-29).

But it wasn't easy! She shares how she structured her training plan while also finishing her dissertation (which she successfuly defeneded just last week), how she fueled, what worked and didn't work for her, what surprised her about the whole process, and why she's not sure she'll do another one...at least not for a while!

We wrap things up by exploring a few of the 10 things she wishes more people knew about REDs. So, come for a marathon recap, stay for some hot takes!

Follow Mel on IG at @FED_Collaborative.

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" Consider why you want to do this. What are the motivating factors for completing the marathon right this second? What are your long-term health and movement goals, and does this get you closer to them or further away?"

Lane 9 co-founder, and dietitian, Heather Caplan RDN takes on two more listener questions in this episode.

1) How do clinicians navigate what may be REDs, with an athlete who has an IUD and doesn't get periods?

2) If I'm undertrained and experiencing symptoms of REDs (haven't had a period in about a year), but I want to run marathon, what should I do?

As always, remember that all of our episodes cover these topics to raise awareness and engage in the converastion around REDs and women's health in sport, but they are NOT intended to (nor do they) provide individualized medical, nutrition, or mental health care. Please check in with your clinicians before you make any changes.

If you are looking for a healthcare team to support you as a woman in sport, navigating REDs or not, go to Lane9Project.org/directory to match with a clinician in our Women's Sport and Health Directory.

Connect with Lane 9 Project via Instagram @lane9project, or visit Lane9project.org. Submit a question for our next Q&A episode by sending us a DM, or a message on our site!

"You might think, 'On the other side of this, if I'm not even guaranteed better performance, Why would I do it?' That comes down to our values," shares Lane 9 co-founder, and dietitian, Heather Caplan.

This Q&A episode tackles two questions:

Is it possible to be 'healthy' even with extremely irregular periods or absent periods, if everything else is going well?
Will I recover from REDs and get faster? What if I get slower, or get injured?

Have your own question to submit to Lane 9 for a future episode or resource? We'd love to hear them! Go to Lane9project.org and contact us. Or follow us on Instagram @Lane9Project and come on into our DMs.

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"I'd rather suck at running and have my life back," Erin McDonald, who just won the 2025 Detroit Free Press International Half Marathon in 1:16. She objectively does not suck at running, but she does have her life back!

Erin McDonald recently opened up about her struggles with restrictive and rigid eating in college as a runner at Michigan State University. She was primed and favored to make nationals her senior year—staying "disiplined" with her food, rest, and training routine—but the race went totally awry. With a job lined up after graduation, she was ready for a long break from running. Four years, in fact.

When she came back to the sport, she had gained weight from fueling adequately and listening to her body, as well as taking care of her mental health. She was curious about the marathon, and was about to find out, she was pretty good at it!

But as she shares in this episode, her motivation for recovering from restrictive eating and chronic injuries had nothing to do with fast times. She just wanted her life back, and in this case, the rest came together.

Follow Erin on Instagram to cheer her on as she tackles another marathon this year, @sunkistErin.

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"Athletes aren't immune to that messaging of like, 'carbs are bad, you shouldn't have carbs, and they're the worst thing ever.' But we know that carbs are our body's preferred source of fuel, especially when you're doing these intense bouts of exercise like most athletes are doing," shares sports dietitian Lauren (or Lo) Segal.

Segal is a now in private practice, after almost 10 years of working as a collegiate sports dietitian, most recently at the University of Utah. She's part of our Lane 9 Clinicians and Coaches Membership, and listed in the Lane 9 Women's Sport and Health Directory.

We talk about her experiences as a D1 collegiate athlete, playing volleyball for Kent State University, and why that fueled her passion for supporting female athletes. She specializes in sports nutrition and REDs, and shares more information about what she wants collegiate athletes to know about nutrition, and accessing support.

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" You can't ultimately control what happens in a race. And so you convince yourself you can, right? Or you tell yourself, well, if I control these other things, I might be able to control what happens in the race."

Stephanie Reents ran for four years on the Amherst College women's Cross Country team in the early 90s, and is the author of "We Loved to Run" her debut novel. Reents wanted there to be a novel about women's running, stories about the identities athletes hold and how those identities shape and change team dynamics, friendships, and relationships...to themselves, to their sport, and to each other. She didn't shy away from including the full spectrum of a collegiate athlete's experiences—disordered eating, body shaming, navigating trauamtic experiences, and still, continuing to compete.

In this episode, Reents shares her own experiences as both a high school and collegiate athlete, and of course, why she wrote the stories of these young women athletes from the perspective of their Cross Country team, on a quest to make Nationals.

Buy the book: "We Loved to Run" by Stephanie Reents (Lane 9 Bookshop affiliate link)

Connect with Reents: @stephanie.reents on Instagram.

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"I've never had a very lean body type. I kept showing up to these triathlons with lean-looking people and second-guessing if I deserved to be there...then smoking them on the bike and in the run, and gaining that confidence," shares Jess Cerra, a former professional cyclist, a sports nutrition entrepreneur, and now VP of Product and Community Development at Alete Active Nutrition.

Cerra joins us to talk about her unusual path into high level endurance sports, and then professional cycling, while studying aspects of sports nutrition, and eventually founding a sports nutrition company. She created the JoJé bar while competing professionally, and navigating her own highs and lows in sport. She shares her experiences with the stress of professional athletics, body image, disordered eating in cycling sports, and learning how to fuel her body. And, what the story behind her bar being acquired by Alete Active Nutrition.

Go to AleteNutrition.com and use code LANE920 for 20% off your order!

Connect with Jess Cerra on IG @JessCerra, and the Alete Active products via @SaltStick.

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"I've found that athletes vastly underestimate their [energy] needs," shares Heather Caplan RDN, co-founder of Lane 9, in this Q&A-style episode.

Listen for this one if you're wondering...

How often is it okay to have sweet things/desserts?
Is it possible to have REDs without weight loss/changes?
Why am I not getting my period back, even though I'm eating a lot more?

This one tackles flexibility with food, decades of carb-fearing and how it probably still impacts what most people eat on a daily basis...even in sports, weight stigma in athletics and the variety of REDs symptoms, and what "a lot" might actually mean, when it comes to eating for energy availability.

Have your own question to submit to Lane 9 for a future episode or resource? We'd love to hear them! Go to Lane9project.org and contact us. Or follow us on Instagram @Lane9Project and come on into our DMs.

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"Once I started to really add fueling into the long runs...I realized how much that was helping the next run," shares Dr. Leah Avery DPT.

Leah Avery DPT was a D1 collegiate swimmer, who qualified for NCAA championships and the Olympic Trials (2008). On paper, her athletic story reads as inspiring and exciting for a young athlete. In reality, it was a pressure-filled struggle to keep up with expectations, training, and results. She was ready to be done. When she graduated and started her DPT program, she couldn't have been happier to stop swimming, and start running.

"It wasn't all rainbows from there, though," she adds.

We talk about Leah's story as an athlete, and clinician, and how she got into coaching runners after becoming a parent. From there, we dive into some training practices for runners to avoid overtraining, and REDs. Easy days, deload weeks, and more!

Dr. Leah Avery DPT is part of the Lane 9 Women's Health & Sport Directory. Connect with her here! Or follow her on Instagram, @Leahs.Runs.DPT

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"I weighed more as a professional runner than I did in college, and I ran faster as a professional runner," shares sports dietitian Maddie Alm MS RDN.

You might know Maddie Alm from her Instagram account and podcat, Fueling Forward. She started her journey to becoming a registered dietitian after meeting with a sports RDN in college, as a collegiate athlete. In college, she was feeling exhausted between workouts and training sessions, but as she shares on this episode, "didn't even realize that fueling was important." That all changed with a pretty simple suggestion from the dietitian: Fuelg between workouts! In this case, with chocolate milk.

We don't hate it!

Alm shares her story as a walk-on collegiate runner at CU Boulder to becoming an All-American in her 5th year of eligibility. As she completed her additional dietetics coursework and then internship, she started training with Team Boss and began racing professionally. Now she works in private pracitce helping fellow runners fuel adequately and avoid REDs, while pursuing her own training goals on the other side of elite racing.

Connect with Maddie Alm MS RDN on Instagram @fueling_forward.

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" When I eventually figured out my food intolerances and a better relationship with fueling, I brought [my marathon PR] down to 2:44 within a little under a year."

Jenny Grimshaw, VP of marketing at EQUIP*, and now a 2:36 marathoner, joins us on the Lane 9 podcast. Jenny is also a mom of 2, and navigating prophylactic surgeries to reduce her risk of breast and ovarian cancers (with the BRCA-1 gene). Her postpartum running experiences have been full of PRs, as she has figured out her own fueling needs, how to balance her identity as a runner with all the other things she does, and has worked with a coach to better balance her training volume and find her confidence as a runner.

Jenny shares:

her early experiences with food intolerances and GI distress that were assumed by physicians to be anorexia, but would later be more correctly classified as ARFID
the anxiety and panic attacks that she dealt with as a young runner, and injuries that plagued her through college, related to fueling, mental health, and wanting to explore life outside of running
why she got into longer distances after her collegiate T&F years
the gastroenterologist appointment that changed everything for her
how she brought her marathon PR from a 3:13 to a 2:36 (not to say "you can, too!" but to give just one example of how fueling and mental health impact our experiences in sport)
why she was drawn to EQUIP, and her role there

*EQUIP is a virtual eating disorder treatment company that offers care in all 50 states. They're also part of the Lane 9 Directory.

Connect with Jenny Grimshaw on Instagram @jenny_gshaw, and follow her training for her next marathon!

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" I think young people often don't get that chance to like take a step back [from sport] and say like, is this working [for me]?" shares Kaleigh Cornelison, who specializes in working with teens and adolescents.

Kaleigh is a licensed clinical social worker with over 15 years of experience working with teens and the adults who care about them. She leads workshops, creative resources, and writes the both, and newsletter for parents and professionals who wanna embrace both the challenges and the joys of the teenage years. She takes a balanced approach to social media use, acknowledging both the benefits and the downsides to how it impacts development, connection, experiences in sport, and more.

This episode covers

her experiences in sports growing up, through college, and training for her first half-marathon
why she decided to specialize in working with teens and adolescents as a social worker
the ups and downs, pros and cons to teens participating in sports—from social connection to identity to body image and disordered eating
how social media can both help and harm our experiences in sport (and of course, as a human, in general)
how to talk to teens in a way that actually connects with them, especially when it comes to the hard stuff (like disordered eating behaviors)

Connect with Kaleigh Cornelison through her newsletter bothandnewsletter.com. And on Instagram @kaleighcornelisonmsw

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"There's nothing wrong with getting a little out of shape. It's okay! We shouldn't be in our peak or prime all the time," shares Stevie Lyn Smith, sports dietitian and endurnace athlete.

Stevie Lyn Smith is a Registered Sports Dietitian, avid endurance athlete, and dog mom. Her mission is to help educate and coach athletes on how to fuel their goals without sacrificing their health and happiness. And, she’s also part of our Lane 9 Directory of Women’s Health & Sport Clinicians!

This episode covers:

Why she took 4 years off of training for triathlons
Her year of racing (and PRs!) in 2025 after that long break
Setting boundaries and structure for your own racing and recovery, especially when your social circles are also your training circles
Why she doesn't want to hear that you "can't eat more carbs", and HOW to do that
Fueling strategies for ultra-endurance endeavors, like an Ironman (of which she's raced 10!)
and the importance of taking mental and physical breaks from training for big goals, even if it means you lose some fitness. It's okay!

As mentioned: Heather's episode on Stevie's podcast, episode 48 on Real Fuel with SLS.

Follow Stevie Lyn on Instagram @StevieLynLyn, or connect with her through the Lane 9 Directory here.

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"I was the last [athlete] in my recruiting class by my senior year," shares Asia Rawls, aka Coach Brown Bambi, reflecting on the challenges of collegiate athletics and how she stuck with it.

Rawls competed in multiple events, eventually excelling in the 400m hurdles. She ran for Eastern Michigan University (EMU) under coach Sue Parks. In this episode she shares how running changed her life, from a young age, after switching school districts and having more access to sport, all the way into getting a scholarship as a student athlete.

Now, she's the head coach at Machine Athletics (while also working FT in tech!), running with the Detroit-based running group We Run 313, and running World Majors Marathons!

Tune in to hear more of her story, why she brings the world of sprinting into the world of distance running, and how running has shaped so much of her story and who she is today.

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" I mean, half of our cross country team in college, I would say had disordered eating," shares Maddie Barrett, of Joyful Run Coaching.

She's a full time running coach, parent, and recently underwent a double-mastectomy. Maddie is part of the Lane 9 Directory, and joined us to talk about her experiences as a young athlete navigating eating disorder treatment, her time as a collegiate skier and runner, and how she has navigated running and sport through her pregnancy and postpartum.

Just last year, she had surgery for a double-mastectomy and reconstruction, and shares her experiences with that as well.

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" Eating disorders sometimes even mimic OCD. And by that I mean there is a compulsion that satisfies an obsession or an urge," shares therapist Hannah de Groot, a clinician in private practice at Stride Counseling.

Hannah de Groot is part of the Lane 9 clinician Directory, and joined us to talk about her work in helping athletes navigate symptoms of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and eating disorders. She shares her own sport story, and how she got into this work, as well as what it looks like for an athlete to work through Exposure Response Therapy.

Connect with her work through lane9project.org/directory, and give her a follow on Instagram @stride_counseling.

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" I believed that what it took to get back to where I was year before was I needed to lose weight, so kinda overnight did a whole 180—was restricting food, was counting calories, just kind of trying to lose weight. But it was all under the guise of being dedicated to my sport," shares Kassidy Johnson, now a Division 1 collegiate sports dietitian.

Johnson is not only a helping collegiate athletes fuel adequately and navigate their fear of weight gain, she's also training and competing at high level of sport as an unsponsored athlete. She's currently training for, and will soon compete in, the US National Track Championships. She recently ran an 800m PR of 2:00.7 after, as she put it, "significant weight gain" post-college.

We talked with Johnson about:

Working full time in collegiate sports while also training and competing at track meets
How she knew she wasn't ready to be done running and competing, even when her NCAA eligibility was up and she had no sponsor
Her experience in sports in high school, and how a basketball injury triggered what would become years of disordered eating and chronic injuries, while also eventually studying nutrition in college as a student athlete
Finding a master's program in dietetics that also allowed her to continue running
Why she came back to sports nutrition as a specialty, and what she loves helping athletes navigate
The fear of weight gain that plagues so many athletes/sports (and, our general culture around "health")
Nutrition trends she's seeing in college athletics
and, of course, bicab.

Follow Kassidy Johnson on Instagram @KassidyJeane.

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"... the overwhelming majority of people who identify as women, that run, have at one time had an eating disorder or disordered eating, or at minimum low energy availability. So just assume that 60% of images you saw [on social media] were of someone who is actively not well."

Zoë Rom and Kylee Van Horn RDN join the Lane 9 Podcast with Heather Caplan RDN to talk about why diet culture in running (and in general) sucks, and how athlete identities get wrapped up in performance nutrition, body image, and the next health trend. Rom and Van Horn co-host the podcast, Your Diet Sucks (YDS), to bring history, facts, and nuance to diet and nutrition trends, through their lenses as a journalist and dietitian.

This conversation includes:

Why Van Horn decided to compete as a collegiate athlete
How Rom got into running as a "late in life" athlete, on the trails
Writing about food and nutrition while navigating personal eating disorder treatment and recovery, and the responsibility that comes with reporting on both nutrition and health for athletes, and eating disorders in sport
Where the line is drawn between disordered eating and eating for performance
Why they started the show, YDS, together
A topic there were nervous to tackle on YDS
and a lukewarm take on taking bicarb!

Follow @YourDietSucksPod on Instagram, and tune into the podcast!

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" I did have some moments where I questioned if I'd ever be the runner I was [before having a kid]", shares Carly Gill Larios, a 2:42 marathoner.

She joined us for a conversation about her history with disordered eating in high school, the ways in which running was healing for her through her D3 college experience, and what brought her back to running after starting her career in the TV and Film industries. She still works as a Co-Executive Producer for "90 Day Fiance", while running up to 80 miles per week and training for her next marathon. She's a mom to 2-year-old Adella, and dog, Luna, based in Boulder Colorado.

We talk about:

her co-executive producer job!
what her first few half-marathons and marathons taught her about running, training, and fueling
how her eating habits have changed over the years, to fueling much more adequately and consistently while training for marathons at the sub-elite level
how she thought her prenatal and postpartum experiences might be...and how they actually were, in regards to recovery, running, and racing again

Follow Carly on Instagram @Carlysheree.

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" I was not someone that anyone, including myself, would've thought was gonna make an Olympic team one day."

Kim Conley is a 2x Olympian in the 5000m, competing in the 2012 London Summer Games and 2016 Rio Summer Games. She has competed in everything from the mile to the marathon. During her debut at the 2016 NYCM she shares how she underfueled and bonked hard. Eventually she teamed up with a sports dietitian, changed her fueling strategy, and went on to run in the 2024 US Olympic Trials Marathon. Most recently, she finished 2nd at the Brooklyn Half Marathon in May 2025, and has run a few shorter distances competitively since then.

In this episode we cover:

her positive experiences as a high school athlete
the pressure to be "lighter" during her time in college
what her first few years as a professional runner looked like
qualifying for and running in two Summer Olympics, and how she navigated mental health and training afterward
how her fueling on the run has changed completely
a new sport she's enjoying now
and what she has coming up!

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"I think runners specifically are convinced that shtting your pants is normal...I see stuff all the time online of people saying, 'Oh, running causes me to have GI issues.' No, running plus* your nutrition is the cause."

Grace Kelley really wants you to be able to run without sh*tting your pants. And she's got the myth-busting reels on Instagram to help! Kelley is a sports dietitian, part of the Lane 9 Directory, and a runner training for her first marathon, Fall 2025. Throughout the process, she's testing out a variety of gels so you don't have to, and keeping a spreadsheet with the facts. She's also making reel after reel of objectively bad nutrition advice from the internet, to save your gut and your run from an ill-informed fueling strategy.

We had a great time chatting with Grace about how she started running on Dry Land (IYKYK) after swimming through high school, how an appointment with a dietitian changed her career path and her own relationship with food, and more about her private practice.

Then we dig into some nutrition trends that may be affecting YOUR gut, and what might help.

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"I saw the tie between, you know, delaying recovery, restricting food and ending up with a bone injury in my foot. And it was part of why I took six years off."

Mary Denholm was a dual-sport athlete in college, competing in ski racing and cross country, track and field. After her first (and so far only) bone injury in college and struggling with restricting food intake, she took a long break from the sport. It ended up being six years off, while she went through law school and started her law career. "I can count on one hand the number of times I went for a run in those six years," she shared.

She has navigated a lot of change since getting back to the sport, times of very high stress, big moves, career transitions and more. But running has been a constant for her, since 2015. She shares her story within this sport, which includes qualifying for both the 2020 and 2024 Olylmpic Trials Marathons. Last year (2024), she finally got into trail running, and it's gone pretty well, to say the least! She signed her first professional running contracts at the end of last year, and at age 38, feels like many of her best races are ahead of her.

We talk about:

her experiences as a college athlete, and what happened when someone told her she'd be "faster" if she was "lighter"
how she's become in tune with her body to try to minimize injury risk, even with the timing sucks
changing your mid, leaving a career and other life transitions
why she's been intersted in trail running, but held off until 2024
her year on the run in 2024
the reason she had some menstrual cycle disruptions a few years ago
how she stays on top of her health now
how she recovered from her trail races, including Leadville 100 (which she won!) and JFK 50-miler (2nd place)
and what she's training for in 2025

Mary is a coach for Lift Run Perform. Follow her on Instagram @eatrunandbemary

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" ...definitely we're underrepresented and I think especially with the state of our country and the world now, it can be really scary to put yourself out there."

Ari Hendrix is the third fastest US-Born African American marathoner (2:35, CIM 2022), and ran the 2024 US Olympic Team Trials Marathon in 2024. She works for HOKA and lives in Portland with her wife and two dogs.

Ari joined the Lane 9 podcast to talk about her recent move to the trails, on which she's already had some success! She recently finished 9th in her 50K debut at the 2025 Canyons Endurance Run by UTMB, and also happened to win a road 5K in Portland this spring. She played college basketball before getting into endurance running, and has navigated mental health, injuries, and setbacks in the sport.

We also talk about:

the challenges she navigated with both injuries and mental health during 2020
her CIM race in 2022, finishing in 2:35 to qualify for the 2024 US Olympic Team Trials Marathon and becoming the 3rd fastest US Born African American woman in the marathon
her experience at the 2024 Marathon Trials
why she got interested in running trails instead of sticking to road racing
how she met her wife, and her experiences as an open LGBTQ+ and African American athlete
what she's excited about in the sport

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" We have a lot of work to do to help improve the health of [running] culture, like the basic understanding of what it means to be a healthy runner," shares Renee Hodges DPT.

Renee Hodges is a physical therapist (DPT) based in the Phoenix AZ area, specializing in endurance athletes. As an endurance athlete herself, Hodges shares that she has experienced REDs, low energy availability, overtraining syndrome, and more. She breaks down the basics of bone health (pop quiz on osteoclasts and osteoblasts!), and how low energy avability impacts our body's recovery, and overall health.

Stay tuned for more of Renee's athletic story, why she's excited to be training for a 70.3 Ironman this year, bone stress injury rehab and recovery, and more.

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" I just needed to do all of those things for myself before I really talked about it publicly. Plus, I was not in a great head space about it at first, as most people aren't with a big injury," says well-known sports dietitian Meghann Featherstun, RDN MS CSSD, in regards to the post where she shared her sacral stress fracture injury at the end of 2024.

Meghann Featherstun, aka "Feathers" (if you're a "Fuel for the Sole" listener), and maybe best known by her private practice's name and Instagram handle, Featherstone Nutrition, joined Lane 9 to talk about her running experiences—including her first marathon, the 6 World Marathon Majors in 18 months, her recent injury, and more. Featherstun is a 2:51 marathoner, breaking the 3-hour mark for the first time in 2019 and getting faster from there. And she's on Instagram weekly sharing accessible and easy-applicable sports nutrition information for the everyday runner.

(Think you can't fuel before your run? Her graham-crackers say otherwise!)

This episode also covers:

the real reason Meghann signed up for her very first marathon in 2009
the lessons she had to learn for herself before specializing in sports nutrition
how everything came together for her to complete the 6-star World Marathon Majors goal in only 18 months
the process of coming to terms with her sacral stress fracture and then sharing with widely, which isn't easy to do
how she's been recovering from that injury
and of course, sports nutrition! Trends, carbs (not a trend!), sodium (also not a trend, but kind of is!), and eating adequately for performance.

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" I think I was just trying to make only running work for me and I just am not the kind of person that can only run. I need other things in my life," shares Jess McClain, who most recently finished 7th overall and first American across the finish line at the 2025 Boston Marathon, in 2:22:43, a 3-minute personal best.

Jess McClain is professional marathoner for Brooks Running. In 2024, she placed 4th at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, placed 4th at the U.S Olympic Track & Field Trials in the 10,000m, won the 2024 U.S. 10K road championships, and placed 8th overall at the 2024 TCS New York City Marathon. In other words: She had a big year!

McClain went on to PR in the 10K on the track, placed 4th at the US Half-Marathon Championships in March, and again, 7th at the 2025 Boston Marathon. This time around, as a professional runner for Brooks once again, she's doing things differently. She's clearer on what works well for her, when it comes to work, life, and running competitively, and she's leaving her own footprint on the sport because of that.

She joins the Lane 9 podcast to talk about all of the following:

lessons learned by underfueling and overtraining for the marathon (a sacral stress fracture in 2022 became a reset for her)
why she sticks to about half the weekly mileage of her fellow professional runners when training for the marathon (at least for now!)
her experiences on competitive high school and collegiate track and cross country teams, the team cultures around fueling and periods, and what she learned from her coaches along the way
her first experience as a professional runner—plagued with injuries, stress, and setbacks
why she came back to compete at the Olympic Marathon Trials in 2024, and what she thought would happen after that race
how she's fueling NOW for her marathon training and racing, and her pro tips for finding gels/fueling options that work well for you
and how she loves to celebrate after her races

Follow McClain on Instagram @JessTonn.

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"My big fear with all of this is the trickle down," Dr. Sasha Gollish joins us on the episode, to chat about her work in Gender Equity in sport, her time as a professional runner for team Canada, how she knew she was in perimenopause, and much more.

Gollish ran at a younger age, but took some time off and worked as an engineer in Toronto before getting back to the sport at a high level. We talk about what it looked like to go back into competitive running, working with Oiselle and Asics, going to the World Marathon Championships in 2023 for Team Canada, and eventually navigating perimenopause.

As a gender equity advocate, Gollish worked to bring awareness to the World Athletics decision to resume "sex testing" for athletes competing in the female category, so we discuss her thoughts and perspective on that, along with concerns about how it may impact athletes down the line.

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"I didn't know what I was doing at all...I didn't take any gels in my first marathon...Now I take gels like every 5K or sometimes every 30 minutes."

Emilia Benton is a freelance health and wellness journalist who is particularly passionate about sharing diverse stories and elevating underrepresented voices. Her work has been published by outlets such as Runner's World, Outside RUN, SELF, Women's Health and the Houston Chronicle. Emilia is also a 14-time marathoner, 50-something-time half-marathoner and USATF Level 1-certified run coach.

We talk about the races she has run and worked at this year (including riding on the lead vehicle in Boston), and:

Why she keeps running marathons (14+), and why she loves the Houston Marathon
How she has approached training for races lately & why she hired nell rojas as her coach
A plea for wider carbon-plated shoes
How she approaches fueling now and what she has learned along the way
Her hydration tricks for getting through the heat of a Houston Summer
How she transitioned from being a FT journalist at the Houston Chronicle to a job in healthcare to freelance work
and more!

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"For so long, every conversation, every day, was like, 'what is your weight?' So really like reinforcing confidence and performance all around the number on the scale."

Alexa Efraimson signed a professional running contract with Nike when she was just 17 years old. She hadn't gone through puberty yet, and while did shortly after that, her cycles were "super inconsistent" for the next six+ years. She navigated challenges with weight, body image, and fueling for performance. She got a college degree while running professionally, and had some success during her eight years as a pro. But in 2022, after enduring an emotional time with her partner and their families, she began to reevaluate her relationship to running and sport. She retired, and started pursuing an additional degree to eventually become a registered dietitian.

This episode covers the following topics and more:

Efraimson's current running and a big goal she has
the Dietetic internship (she's graduating in May 2025)
Navigating racing professionally, weight, body image, fueling, and harmful nutrition advice
Going through puberty as a professional runner
How she felt about the Mary Cain story when it came out and she was also competing as a pro runner for Nike
What happened during the last year of her professional running career
The nutrition book that totally shifted her perspective on eating and health

Follow Alexa Efraimson as she becomes a registered dietitian this year (2025) and begins supporting fellow athletes: @alexa.efraimson.

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"{Houston} was a really great season opener and showed me again that I could fuel like I even fuel in the half marathon now, it's I'm able to take fuel. It's, and sustain my training and feel healthy and finishing strong in my races," shares Molly Bookmyer.

Bookmyer is an elite distance runner based in Columbus OH. She walked onto the Ohio State XC/Track and FIeld teams, but left the sport before graduating because of some frustrating injuries and health issues. She wasn’t getting regular periods, which actually led to her healthcare team discovering a small brain tumor.

After some time away from the sport she got back into distance running and eventually qualified for both the 2020 and 2024 Marathon Olympic Trials. While her marathon and half-marathon times have improved over the years—she ran a PR and won the 2024 Twin Cities Marathon in 2:28, and ran a half-marathon PR at the 2025 Houston Marathon with a 1:09—she has also navigated some intense challenges with gut health and fueling.

We recorded this right before she traveled to DC where she ran the Cherry Blossom 10-miler, which she finished in 52:42, 8th overall female and 7th american. As she shared on Instagram, she “Ran over a minute PR in the 10 mile race and snagged a 10k PR of 32:11 in the process”. Next up is London, so we’ll be virtually cheering for her in a few weeks!

This episode covers a lot! We discuss:

Her 14th place finish at the Half marathon championships in March 2025
Why she’s planning to do more races this year
How she walked onto the XC/TF team at Ohio State in college, her experience as a collegiate athlete, and why she quit after a few years
How she found out she had a small brain tumor,which may have been related to her experience with amenorrhea
Why and how she got back into high level/elite running, which only a few years later landed her in 3rd place at the 2019 US 25K Championship
How her fueling has evolved, especially after two stress fractures in/around 2020, and then a very unpleasant experience during the 2022 Houston Marathon
Her gluten-free fueling strategies and what's working well for her now
Her water bottle secret for elites
And her post-race journaling prompts!

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"I had lost my period for a year. I was definitely not eating nearly enough, eating healthy to an extreme point...it was a very unhealthy relationship with my body," shares Natalie Tyner, who was a North Carolina State Champion in high school and went on to compete collegiately for University of NortH Carolina (UNC). Natalie is now focusing her work on supporting high school athletes who are preparing to compete at a higher level, navigating mental health, performance nutrition, and balancing their training with adequate rest. She's doing this work because she knows how hard it is to compete at the D1 level, and wants future athletes to be more prepared than she was.

In this episode we talk about:

the knee injury Natalie has been navigating for a few years
feeling wholly unprepared for the college athlete experience, and running at a higher level, during her freshman year of college
the disordered eating, and hypothalamic amenorrhea she experienced in high school, and how a cookbook can sometimes feel like a rule book
the performance anxiety that plagued her running experience for years
the culture around food, body image, and periods that she experienced during her collegiate experience
and both why and how she came into the work she does now, supporting high school athletes as they prepare for the collegiate athlete life

Follow Natalie @NatSportPrep on IG to connect with her.

Follow @Lane9project, and visit Lane9Project.org where we house our resources, including our Clinician Directory. If you are also struggling with disordered eating, hypothalamic amenorrhea, and/or performance anxiety (or other mental health issues), our directory of women's health and sport clinicians are here to help. We'll match you with a provider in your area.

"I feel like on every team I've been on, I've been someone who has eaten the most...which is sometimes a little daunting." Annie Rodenfels joins Lane 9 to talk about everything from period health, queerness in running, body dysmorphia, and why she's still coaching herself...longer than she anticipated doing so!

Rodenfels is a professional runner based in Boston MA, coming off of an indoor track season that included two PBs in her events. After leaving the Boston Athletic Association (BAA) high performance team last year, she's been coaching herself while figuring out next steps with a sponsor and/or team. While it's not her preference, she's done it well enough to keep herself in the mix competitively.

We got to talk to Annie about her experiences from high school to D3 collegiate running to both the sub-elite and professional running environments—a conversation about periods, eating enough, body dysmorphia, and queerness in the sport of running (or...what feels like a lack thereof, compared to some other prominent women's sports).

In this conversation:

an update on her current training
her take on the 2025 indoor season (and her 2 PBs)
why she's still coaching herself, and balancing working 20 hours per week with training and competing
the various team cultures she has experienced when it comes to periods, nutrition, body image, and having access to resources (or having to find them on your own) that high level competitors may want/need during various seasons (e.g. a dietitian, mental health therapist, etc.)
protective factors (for her) against disordered eating, despite some experiences with body dysmorphia
Queer culture and representation in women's sports, and how it feels a bit lacking in the running space; why she shared her bisexuality more publicly about two years ago
the race distance, and big audacious goal she might take on, in the future

Follow Annie on Instagram (@andrearodenfels) and/or Strava.

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"I think for so many years I was married to like, if I don't get the run in, I don't feel like I got a quality workout in and I just don't feel like that anymore," shares Lindsey Hein, host of I'll Have Another, among other podcasts produced by her media company, Sandy Boy Productions.

Lindsey is a 17-time marathoner, running coach, mom of 4, race announcer, and podcast host! On this episode, she talks candidly with us about all the body things, and she's been through a lot.

Tune in for any/all of these things:

How running is feeling for her in THIS season of life, 2 years post-hysterectomy
A case for doing long runs during the week!
The hardest thing to recover from (mastectomy) physically, and the hardest emotionally (hysterectomy)
Perimenopause symptoms
Postpartum symptoms!
The different experiences she had with each of her four pregnancies and postpartum return to running
How running has changed for Lindsey since starting her show, I’ll have another, in 2016
Her kids getting into running now,
and more!

Follow Lindsey on Instagram @LindseyHein626. Find her work and her shows here!

If you relate to any of these things, and are looking for a clinician who can support you through this season and chasing running goals, go to Lane9Project.org/Directory. We have clinicians and coaches who specialize in women’s health and sport, across more than 20 states!

For everything else we’re working on, check out Lane9project.org, and send us a note if you have any questions!

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"It's an act of resistance, in taking care ourselves, especially for those of us who have had a disordred relationship with food. Take care of yourself not just because you want to feel good on your runs, but because you want to be a badass in life."

Amanda Katz is a personal trainer, running coach, Equinox trainer and programmer for indoor cycling, onset trainer with the New York Times, and co-host of the podcast, "Between Two Coaches". We connected with Amanda for our "In Lane 9 with" series on our Substack (see her feature here), and wanted to extend that conversation to the podcast.

Connect with a clinician or coach from the Lane 9 Directory by going to Lane9Project.org/Directory. We match you with a right-fit provider for performance nutrition, physical therapy and/or pelvic health, mental health, and/or menstrual health.

We talk about:

her year on the run in 2024, with many PRs in fueling! Getting up to 80g carbs per hour with a lot of practice and consistency
how (and why) she became both a group fitness instructor and running coach, and what her days look like when she's also training for her own movement goals (like a marathon!)
why she doesn't participate in strava, or share any of her paces on Instagram
her experience with two eating disorder "rock bottoms", and how she found a way to participate in group therapy for free when she couldn't afford private pay treatment options, and what actually worked for her
her take on carbon-plated shoes
and her two favorite soapboxes/hot takes!

Tune in for Amanda's humor, smack talk and 'Great NYC energy, No BS', and stay for the best bagel recommendation from a lifelong New Yorker (but don't tell anyone else! she doesn't want a line!).

Find Amanda via Instagram @Amanda_Katzz and via AmandaSKatz.com

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"It was pressure I put on myself. Because I saw other athletes and I wanted to be part of that, okay, look, I want to prove that they did the right thing supporting me during my pregnancy, and now I'm going to come back for them."

Neely Spence Gracey ran professionally for eight years after a lot of success as a collegiate runner in the D2 program at Shippensburg University. She has two kids, has coached hundreds of athletes through her business, Get Running, and ran FOUR marathons in 2024 alone. In this episode, we caught up with Neely toward the beginning of 2025 and talked about all the things:

Her transition from high school success to collegiate running at Shippensburg University, a D2 program in Pennsylvania
Why she started her run coaching business while still running professionally
Her two different experiences with pregnancy and running
How she approached getting back to running postpartum with her second kid to try to avoid some of those injuries
How long it took her to feel “normal” again on the run, and running and racing postpartum after her professional contracts ended
Training between her qualifying race (CIM 2022) and the Olympic Trials in 2024
What she realized while training for the 2024 Olympic Trials marathon
Her year of 4 marathons in 2024!
A race recap from her 2:33 at CIM 2024
Her 2025 goals

For more from Lane 9, where we talk about REDs, period health, nutrition, and mental health, go to Lane9project.org. To connect with a Lane 9 clinician or coach, click on "Driectory", and to get in touch, click on "Contact". We'd love to hear from you!

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"I absolutely know, had I not made that decision to go back into treatment, I would be still spinning my wheels in like a very, very harmful place. So, it was a risk worth taking."

Amelia Boone, as many of you know, is an Obstacle Racing World Champion turned Ultrarunner, attorney by day, and eating disorder awareness advocate and writer. She had a weird year in 2024, with no start or finish lines for the first time in a LONG time. She navigated a difficult injury, and continues to navigate some of the long-term impacts of an eating disorder.

We talk about:

What she would tell her younger self if they went to get coffee together
How she's feeling on the run, at the time of our chat (Feb. 2025)
What life looks like on the other side of elite level racing and competing
Why we need more not-so-epic comeback stories
Her hesitations in sharing this part of ED recovery, that's not as sensationalized, not as exciting, but maybe the most accurate in terms of what most people experience
Why she wishes she had gone back to ED treatment much earlier (than mid-30s)
And why going back to treatment was "110% the right choice"
Some ways she's exploring her creativity and non-sport performance side now!

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To find a clinician to work with, and build your ED and/or REDs care team, go to Lane9Project.org/Directory. We have clinicians across the country who are ED and REDs informed and ready to support you in your sport(s)!

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Eight years ago, on the eve of Eating Disorder Awareness Week in 2017, we decided to go live with our personal stories—our lived experiences with disordered eating, hypothalamic amenorrhea, running, injuries, all of it—and see what happened. We had BIG Ideas for Lane 9 Project, but the only way we knew how to start, was to write. Alexis wrote her essay first, and we're revisiting her story in conversation form for this episode.

On the eighth anniversary of launching Lane 9, we explore why we keep coming back to this work (literally...we left, and came back last year!). And we share how we met, why we felt compelled to do something, ANYTHING, about the lack of knowledge that so many athletes (ourselves included) have about their own bodies, fueling, and period health.

More to come, this is part 1!

Ways to work with Lane 9:

team workshops
run coaching (with Alexis or Heather)
share your story
share our content with a coach, friend, teammate, or mentor!

And connect with our clinicians! Go to lane9project.org/directory to find a clinician that feels like a good fit for you and your REDs recovery.

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"A lot of us were really struggling with our own issues, particularly related to issues with eating disorders, issues with body image that sort of thing, myself included. and I think unknowingly I was kind of passing it on to my teammates," shares Julianne Morse, or Coach Jules as she's known these days!

Morse joined the Wheaton Lyons women's cross country and track team as a walkon athlete her freshman year. She competed through injuries, setbacks related to REDs, and struggles with body image. She found support in both a therapist and a dietitian, connecting with Boston's Female Athlete Clinic, and eventually ran major PRs in her 5K and 10K events. Despite what was considered a career-ending injury during her senior year, she's stuck with the sport and continues to advocate for her care so she can, hopefully, get back out on the run soon. She's now a Graduate Assistant Coach at University of Wisconsn-Platteville, where she's also pursuing her Master's degree in Sports Administration.

We talked about:

not being the fastest runner in high school, and reaching out to the Wheaton coach asking to be the team photographer...which turned into her own spot on the XC and T&F teams
struggling with disordered eating, body image, and amenorrhea during her freshman and sophomore years of college
connecting with both a therapist and dietitian who supported her to come back to the sport and stay injury-free for over 2 years
the injury that ended her season, and her D1 committ to Niagara University
her decision to coach as a Graduate Assistant Coach at University of Wisconsin-Plattevile
her future plans and ambitions as both a coach and an athlete

If you're struggling with REDs, body image, underfueling, digestive issues, or resonate with any of Julianne's story, we have a directory of women's health and sport clinicians ready to support you. Go to Lane9project.org/Directory and find a clinician that feels like the right-fit for you. We're happy to help! If you have questions, contact us via Lane9project at gmail dot com.

For show notes, a full transcript (via email/PDF), and more work that we're doing in Lane 9, head to Lane9project.org.

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"I never once felt like myself while I was running in college," shares Val Rubio Meza on the Lane 9 Podcast. But she certainly found her stride with running groups, and longer distances, after her collegiate running days were over. While she specialized in the 400m in high school and college, and couldn't fathom doing a 6 mile training run, she eventually gravitated toward 13.1 and 26.2 mile races. She found running groups in Denver that she connected with, and felt supported by, which helped her find joy and fun in the sport again.

Val shares how she increased her endurnace to run longer distances, the story of her first marathon in Indianapolis (where she ran a 3:02), and the three world majors that followed. As she shares, she learned "to respect the marathon", and eventually ran a 2:55 at CIM in December 2024.

Follow Val @valrunsdenver on IG.

Mentioned on the show: SELF article by Cindy Kuzma, "Sorry, but running without energy gels isn't the flex you think"

Go to Lane9project.org/directory to find a clinician or coach to work with as you navigate post-collegiate running, REDs, and/or fueling for your sport. Our directory includes RDs, DPTs, MDs, therapists, and more.

Get in touch via Lane9Project.org/contact to bring Lane 9 resources to your team or clients. We'd love to work with you!

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Katie Steele LMFT competed for University of Oregon and Florida State as a collegiate runner, and now incorporates her experiences with mental health struggles, unethical coaching practices, and the pressures of collegiate athletics into her work as a therapist. She co-authored the book, "The Price She Pays: Confronting the Hidden Mental Health Crises in Women's Sports, from the Schoolyard to the Stadium"

The title says a lot, and the book lives up to it. Telling the stories of female athletes across the country and across a variety of sports who have struggled with eating disorders, mental health, menstrual health, abuse, and more.

Katie's story is also one for the books. Her own experience as a collegiate athlete touches on most of the above, and we talk about it.

Find Katie and her team at thrivementalhealththerapy.com.

If you are struggling with an eating disorder, mental health, menstrual issues, or medical health as a female athlete, head to Lane9Project.org/directory to connect with one of our vetted women's health providers.

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Get in touch if YOU are a clinician and want to add your services to our directory!

"I've done a lot of work trying to unpack the ''faster is better, or faster is the only way to run...it sounds so silly saying it out loud, but it's just been like, weighing on my consciousness." Cate Barrett shares about this process, of unlearning the one and only way she knew how and was trained to run, as a competitive collegiate athlete and finding her post college stride. She ran an Olympic marathon trials qualifying time in 2018 at CIM, and ran the 2020 Olympic Team Trials Marathon in February 2020. Soon after that, she was pregnant with her first kid, and a year after that, she was pregnant again.

Now, with 2 and 4 year old kiddos at home, she's continue to navigate this season of life, and what it means for her running.

"I didn't realize before I had to take such extended breaks how much of a role running was playing in my self care. I think I was just like, well, it's just what I do, but, it was multiple things rolled up into one."

Tune in for a relatable, but not-as-often-widely-shared story of how Cate is navigating what running looks and feels like now, how she's still building community around running, and finding new ways for it to be in her life, as a parent and 30-something in tech.

For more from Lane 9 Project go to Lane9project.org. Find a women's health and sport clinician to support you through this season of life, with nutrition, therapy, Physican therapy, and/or medical care—our national directory of providers is ready to support YOU.

Lane9project.org/Directory

@lane9project on Instagram

Weekly newsletter: Lane9project.substack.com

"Okay, no one on your team is fueling. But, what if you're the person to set the example?"

Caila Yates is a sports and eating disorder dietitian based in Boulder CO, in private practice (Steady State Nutrition). She started running in college because one of her friends was doing it, and the rest is history. For her, running was supportive to her own eating disorder recovery, though we know that's not always the case. Now she works with runners at various levels of the sport, and knows the ins and outs of running culture, disordered and restrictive eating, and how hard it can be to stand up to or stand out from what your teammates are doing. So, we talk about that!

Go to steadystatenutrition.co to find ways to work with Caila.

To find and work with a women's health and sport informed clinician from the Lane 9 Project Directory, go to lane9project.org/contact to get in touch!

@Lane9project on IG

Lane9project.Substack.com for our regular newsletter and essays

"When I was in college I saw a lot of people struggling, not just myself, because it's just a very difficult time."

Tessa (Tess) Barrett won the 2013 Foot Locker National Cross Country Championship as a senior in High School. She was featured on a billboard in her hometown! The highs were high, and it could seem like everything was going well at the time. But she was also struggling with her own health, and with a sick parent. She went on to compete at Penn State, grieving the loss of a parent and navigating the often-fraught world of collegiate athletics, with a lot of eyes on her.

Tess eventually moved to Washington DC where she trains and competes with Georgetown Running Club, and had a huge year on the run in 2024. She won a couple of local races, including the Marine Corps Marathon with a personal best of 2:39:38. We talk about all of the above, and how Tess balances running with working, and having a life, on this episode.

Follow Tessa Barrett on Instagram @tessabarrett_ and via the Georgetown Running Club updates.

Lane 9 working to improve the menstrual and mental health of female-bodied athletes. Connect with a practitioner or coach through the Lane 9 directory by going to Lane9Project.org. Follow on Instagram @Lane9Project.

Hello 2025! The year we are connecting female-bodied athletes to the clinicians and coaches who are trained and equipped to support their fully body health—menstrual, mental, and physical wellbeing that keeps athletes in their game(s).

Tune into this short n' sweet episode to hear from Lane 9 Co-founder, Heather Caplan, about what we're up to this year and how to work with us.

For more about the Lane 9 Directory—how to find a clinician or how to join us if you ARE a clinician—go to Lane9project.org / contact.

Or DM us on Instagram: @lane9project.

"I think making two Olympics was easier than trying to figure out what I want to do now." Jourdan Delacruz has been competing as a weightlifter for ten years, from training as a highschooler at the US Olympic Training Center, to multiple international competitions, to both the Toyko and Paris Olympics. Meanwhile, she completed her degree in Nutrition and Dietetics, on her way to becoming a registered dietitian with the hopes of working with athletes like herself.

We caught up with Jourdan at the end of 2024, as an Olympic year winds down and she reflects on everything she's accomplished to date. She's in a time of transition, without clear next steps, but excited about a variety of possibilities. We loved hearing more about her training, competitions, Olympic experiences, and how she's already supporting athletes with nutrition resources via HerAthlete.

Follow Jourdan @herathlete on Instagram.

Lane 9 is working to improve the menstrual health of female-bodied athletes at all levels of sport and through various seasons of life. Join our national directory of providers and coaches, or bring a Lane 9 resource to your team! Go to Lane9Project.org for more info.

Follow Lane 9 @lane9project on Instagram, and say hi!

" Own what you're doing. And, if you're really riding a wave of inconsistency or doubt, remember that you're always on your own side." Georgetown athlete Fiona Max, running Cross Country and Track & Field in her last year of NCAA eligibility joins us on the Lane 9 Podcast.

Fiona competed for, and completed her undergraduate degree at Princetown University from 2020-2024, then transferred to Georgetown to pursue her Master's in Sustainability and compete again. She wrote a blog post for GU Energy Labs titled "Practice over Perfection" about her experience with performance anxiety and struggling with perfectionism while competing within and studying at an Ivy League school. We talk about her experiences in collegiate athletics thus far, and what she's scheming for her post-NCAA life.

Read Fiona's post for GU here.

Lane 9 is working to improve the menstrual health of female-bodied athletes and reduce REDs by sharing athlete stories from all levels of sport and various seasons of life. We're also building a national directory of practitioners and coaches who specialize in women's health and sport. Go to Lane9project.org / contact to get in touch, and/or join our directory!

Follow @lane9project on Instagram. All show notes can be found at lane9project.org, with full transcripts available by request.

Rachel Drake is a professional trail runner with Nike, co-host of The Trail Network Podcast, mom of 2-year old Lew, and a newly-minted medical resident in Salt Lake City, UT. A few weekends ago, she ran, won, and broke the course record for women at the JFK 50 Miler in northern Virginia—a huge accomplishment on its own, but especially considering all of the above.

We talked to Rachel about her time as a collegiate athlete, finding trail running and a close community of friends in that space when she moved to Portland OR, and eventually getting back to racing on the trails and roads (and doing it well!).

And she shared the full story of her postpartum running process, getting a sacral stress fracture soon after she got back into high volume training. "We don't hear about the struggle, and I think the struggle is the predominating experience," she said, when we talked about her injury and how she felt like she wasn't seeing as any stories about setbacks. How so often, what's shared is centered around the wins, the course records, the "bounce backs".

Tune in to hear Rachel's full story, and what she's eyeing for 2025!

Follow Rachel on Instagram @RachelRaeDrake.

Follow Lane 9 @lane9project on IG. If you work with female-bodied athletes, and want to 1) add your services our national directory of providers, 2) join a collective of coaches and practitioners who work with Lane 9, or 3) bring a Lane 9 resource to your team/athletes, go to Lane9Project.org/contact.

Dr. Sarah Lesko is MANY things—a runner, parent, practitioner, and a staunch advocate for female athletes of all ages, devoting her work to getting and keeping girls in sports. We couldn't have been more excited to chat with her, getting the story of her days as a collegiate athlete, why she took more than 15 years off of running and how that actually felt, what happened when she came back to running and met Oiselle's founder Sally Bergesen, and everything in between.

Sarah is now the Executive Director and Board President of the incredible nonprofit, Bras for Girls, which started within Oiselle in 2017 and branched out as its own 501(c)3 in 2021. They have donated over 60,000 sports bras just THIS YEAR to young female athletes, and have even bigger plans for 2025.

Come for all of the things Sarah has done in the sport of running and for female athletes up to this point, but stay for the hot takes, and unfiltered reality checks, on what really needs to happen within the NCAA to protect female athletes and keep them in sports at all levels, for the long run.

Follow Dr. Lesko on Instagram @DrLesko and @brasforgirls. Go to brasforgirls.org to get involved.

To work with Lane 9 and support what we're building for women's health providers and female athletes, go to Lane9Project.org, and follow us on IG @lane9project.

Melissa (Mel) Lodge was a collegiate track and field athlete who had multiple bone stress injuries, and a few providers in her corner that knew exactly what to do to help her navigate REDs. She took her personal experiences and funneled her drive into studying the prevalence of and interventions that may actually help prevent and treat REDs in all levels of sport. She takes time out of her day as a PhD candidate to translate the research into digestible bits on her popular and informative Instagram account, @FED_Collaborative.

We talked to Mel about her athlete journey, and how it's informing the work she's doing now. Tune in for some well-informed hot takes, relatable anecdotes about working with providers, and the latest in her REDs research.

Love this episode and the work we're doing at Lane 9 Project? Leave us some good vibes in the reviews! Or stop by lane9project.org to learn how to work with us.

Follow @Lane9Project on IG, or go to Lane9Project.org/Contact to get in touch.

Emma Kertesz won the 2024 Bayshore Marathon in 2:37, a three and a half minute PR for the seasoned marathoner and Boulder CO resident. She's from Toledo OH, and ran for the University of Toledo. While she describes her collegiate athletic experiences as "tricky", she had a few lucky experiences with a supportive assistant coach that helped her steer clear of disordered eating habits or chasing the thin ideal (especially at the time). She went on to train with the Hanson brothers, and eventually moved out to the mountains. She has a full time job in early education, and is very intentional about her training, nutrition, and periods of rest. She trains with the The Track Club in Boulder, gave a shoutout to Caila Yates of Steady State Nutrition, and keeps a low profile on social media.

We talk about all of this, including what's up next for Kertesz as she trains for Houston 2025, in this episode.

Read more about Emma in the "9 Miles With Emma Kertesz" post on our Substack.

For more about the work Lane 9 Project is doing to improve the menstrual health of female athletes, and reduce REDS, go to lane9project.org. Follow along @lane9project on IG.

We talked to Ann Arbor-based physical therapist, Eliana Lin DPT, about her experience as a collegiate athlete, completing her doctorate in physical therapy with clinical rotations in Division 1 Track and Field programs, and her clinical practice philosophies on strength training for runners, and running while rehabbing some injuries (if it’s safe, of course!).

Bonus (IMO): This episode includes a deep dive into the world of Pole Vaulting! Somehow I had never spent much, if any, time thinking about what the workouts, warmups, and track meet experience of a pole vaulter all look and feel like. But, we’ve got that for you in this episode.

Eliana Lin DPT, a former pole vaulter turned distance runner and triathlete. Witnessing numerous runners sidelined by preventable injuries, Eliana is on a mission to ensure athletes stay in the race. Having experienced the frustrations of injury firsthand, she's dedicated to transforming your running experience. At Up and Running Performance, Eliana's passion is improving runners' form and strength, helping them run faster, stronger, and injury free. Whether you're new to running or a seasoned athlete aiming for new goals, Eliana is here for you every step of the way. (@Eliana.Lin.DPT on Instagram)

For more from Lane 9 Project. go to Lane9Project.org and follow on Instagram @Lane9Project. We're working to keep your periods regular, plates full, and rest days aplenty, so more female athletes stay in sports!

Melanie (Mel) Sulaver RDN, aka Nutrition by Mel (@nutritionbymel), is here to talk about her sport story from soccer to running, parenting to postpartum, and everything in between. We chat about what happened during her collegiate soccer career that led her to leaving the team, and how that was an early lesson in advocating for herself and her own wellbeing.

Mel is now a sports dietitian speicalizing in work with female-bodied athletes, menstrual health, and supporting birthing athletes through pregnancy and postpartum. Mel brings her signature Big Uterus Energy to this conversation, and her work. We talk about that!

Work with Mel: NutritionbyMel.com

The Lane 9 Project is working to reduce REDS and improve menstrual health for female-bodied athletes at all levels of sport. Find more of our work and how to work with us at Lane9Project.org. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter at Lane9Project.Substack.com. Full transcripts are available for all episodes.

Dietitian Serena Stewart, aka Serena Marie per her IG account, joins Lane 9 Project to talk about her experiences with adolescent body changes, how it impacted her body image, and how it led her to running. While her early experiences in sport were part of an effort to change her body, her relationship to running has evolved and changed. She recorded this episode with us at 37 weeks pregnant, on the brink of a major life transition! We know that parts of her story resonate with a lot of our Lane 9 community, and appreciate the helpful information she shared in regards to adolescent nutrition support, sports nutrition trends, and more.

Get in touch with Serena via SerenaMarieRd.com and/or via @runnergirldietitian on IG.

The Lane 9 Project is working to reduce REDS and improve menstrual health for female-bodied athletes at all levels of sport. Find more of our work and how to work with us at Lane9Project.org. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter at Lane9Project.Substack.com. Full transcripts are available for all episodes.

On this episode we talk with Heidi Strickler, a dietitian who checked herself into eating disorder treatment in 2020 (at Opal) after years of struggling and running through it. Heidi planned on being a collegiate soccer player but transitioned to Track and Field, and then Cross Country, and has been a competitive and accomplished runner ever since. She talks about the many years of work she has done to untie her identity from her achievements in running, and find ways to play in the mountains, have fun, and be out there for the joy of it.

Find Heidi at @hstrickler_sportsrd on Instagram.

The Lane 9 Project is working to reduce REDS and improve menstrual health for female-bodied athletes at all levels of sport. Find more of our work and how to work with us at Lane9Project.org. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter at Lane9Project.Substack.com. Full transcripts are available for all episodes.

"I did not have a period. It's not unrelated that then I had a series of five stress fractures." Nancy Boyd, former D1 collegiate runner and now DPT with a practice specializing in providing pelvic floor physical therapy, joins the Lane 9 Project for this episode.

Nancy shares her experience with late puberty onset, i.e. primary amenorrhea, at the age of 20 competing in D1 athletics. She developed an eating disorder, and experienced a series of five stress fractures. She had surgeries, a lot of time off, and some not-greaet experiences within the healthcare system. She went on to get her doctorate in physical therapy, to help athletes and humans at all levels and abilities get back to movement in whatever ways are accessible to them.

We talk about:

Nancy's story: late puberty, stress fractures, an eating disorder, and finding new ways to enjoy running as a parent and person
The impact of low estrogen levels on various parts and systems within the body
Everything you need to know about pelvic floor physical therapy, whether you're pregnant, postpartum, peri/postmenopause, and/or experiencing REDS or an Eating Disorder
How to access the care you might need
talking to younger (high school) athletes in impactful ways

For more about how to work with the Lane 9 Project in reducing REDS and improving the period health of female-bodied athletes, go to Lane9project.org.

Nancy's practice in Michigan, Ancouer Wellness: ancoeurwellness.com

@ancoeurwellness on Instagram

"What I'll see in PT {with REDS} is delayed healing...." Dr. Leada Malek, whom you may know as @drmalekpt on Instagram and TikTok, joins Lane 9 co-founder Heather Caplan to chat about what it really takes for athletes to get and stay "healthy" for the long term.

We talk about her athletic story, how she starts every assessment with active clients, the most common injuries and inquiries from runners, why strength training is a key component of running fitness, and what to actually do about stretching.

Her book, "The Science of Stretch" is available wherever books are sold. And if you haven't yet, check out her Instagram and other social channels for accessible, and very helpful, short physical therapy-focused videos and content!

Lane 9 Project is working to reduce eating disorders and REDS in female-bodied athletes at all levels.

Check out our upcoming events and resources via Lane9project.org and subscribe to our weekly newsletter at lane9project.substack.com.

Follow along on Instagram @lane9project

"As someone who already felt like I was such a big fish out of water... I was like, well, that's what other people are doing to get faster. Maybe, maybe that's what I should do."

Morgan Voight, a registered dietitian based in Salt Lake City, Utah, who's focused on the intersection between movement and eating disorders, with specific research focused on the prevalence of eating disorders among the LGBTQ plus population, joins us for a Lane 9 Project conversation.

We chat about Morgan's early experiences as a middle and high school track athlete, and then joining the Quinnipiac Cross Country and Track and Field teams as a D1 competitive runner. Between her junior and senior year, she had to take time off to begin the process of treating her disordered eating, but she was able to get back to competition before graduating.

Morgan talks to us about her relatoinship with running now, what may have been helpful to her as a younger athlete, and why she's not ashamed to be using loads of Body Glide!

Reach out to Morgan via the Kayla Jessup Nutrition team in Salt Lake City, and follow her on Instagram @morganvoight.

The Lane 9 Links:

@lane9project on Instagram

Lane9project.substack.com Weekly newsletter

Lane9Project.org to get in touch, and access our resources!

In this Lane 9 Project v2, we need your help. Listen to learn more about big things coming up—like our first event in Ann Arbor, where we're hosting the Global Trail Running Film Festival at Cahoots, on Thursday Aug 1, and a workshop for high school athletes in the works—and to get the scoop on what this relaunch of Lane 9 involves for us, your co-founders. We appreciate you tuning in, and continguing to support this work in whatever ways work for you!

The links:

trailfilmfest.com/tour (Ann Arbor, August 1!)

Lane9project.org for our content like athlete stories, our contact form, and other ways to get involved (i.e. work with us to bring Lane 9 workshops to your team!)

@lane9Project on IG

Our Substack: Lane9project.substack.com, where from July 1 to Aug 1 you can help us with our ReLaunch Lane 9 campaign.

"Running served as a place where I could feel like I was holding on to my mom, and that is like what I needed more than anything when I was grieving."

Emily Halnon's debut book, "To the Gorge: Running, Grief, Resilience, and 460 Miles Across the PCT", is a story that weaves together the deep and transformative grief of both losing her mom to cancer in 2020, and running the fastest known time (FKT) on Oregon's 460 miles section of the Pacific Crest Trail. Emily is an avid and prolific ultra-runner and writer. And she writes often about her experience with running as a love language, thanks in no small part to her brave, wholehearted, joyful mom.

We talk about finding balance and sustainable routines when training for ultra-marathons, about cultivating community and connection through running, and navigating Big Hard life things while keeping joy for the things and people you love.

For more from and about Emily, visit EmilyHalnon.com. Buy her book from you local independent book store! Follow her on IG @emilysweats.

The Lane 9 Project:

We're working to reduce eating disorders and hypothalamic amenorrhea at all levels of running. If you want to work with us, and bring Lane 9 to your team and/or coaching staff, contact us via Lane9Project.org

Follow on Instagram @Lane9Project. And subscribe to lane9project.substack.com

"When you can perform through this kind of lifestyle, it makes you not think that there's a problem. And I think that's where, we have to be careful."

Andie Cozzarelli, semi-professional runner and running coach/owner of Run for a Cozz coaching, is back on the Lane 9 podcast! Listen for updates about what Andie has been up to running, training, and coaching-wise since our last episode together in 2018/2019.

Follow Andie on IG @run4acozz

The other links:

@lane9project on Instagram
lane9project.org to get in touch with!
and lane9project.substack.com to subscribe to our bi-weekly newsletter

Want to hire Lane 9 Project for your run coaching needs, or to provide a workshop to your athletes or staff? Reach out. We'd love to chat!

"I listened to the {Ali on the Run interview with Sarah Sellers after 2018 Boston Marathon}. I remember I was on a run, I was crying, and I was like...'I want to do that!"

Ashley Munro RDN is a dietitian based in Tuscon AZ. By day, she's an Instructor and Performance Dietitian the University of Arizona—where she recently developed the curriculum and programming for the first ever Weight Inclusive Certificate program for healthcare providers and healthcare students. But at 4:30 or 5am, she's a runner! (If you live in AZ, you know.)

Ashley recently ran the Eugene Marathon (2024), her fourth in just a couple of years. We connected to talk about all things running, as runners will do. We love sharing stories of runners who come to the sport in a variety of ways, and from a variety of sports (like dance and cheerleading, in this case!). And we love hearing how they find their way in training for big goals while building community, relationships, and time for themselves. Ashley's running story touches on all of the above!

To learn more about Lane 9 Project, visit us and/or get in touch via lane9project.org. Subscribe to our bi-weekly newsletter lane9project.substack.com. And inquire about our Run and Nutrition coaching services, workshops for athletes and coaches, and upcoming events.

@lane9project on Instagram

"Looking back, I can now see that {taking a break from collegiate running} was actually me listening to my body. And I actually feel I did the brave thing, taking that time off.”

Kate Ringwood is an eating disorder (ED) therapist, working with clients in treatment and recovery to improve and/or mold their relationship to movement and sports. She's been a runner since she was 10, and competed at the collegiate level while navigating her own ED and healing process. Kate took a year off of running and training with her team, and talks about the importance of that year for her overall wellbeing, her relationship to running and competing, and her longevity in the sport.

We also talk about what the Higher Levels of care, aka HLOC, mean in the ED treatment world, and what her work as looked like at various levels.

You'll find Kate at serendipitycounseling.com.

The other links:

@lane9project on Instagram
lane9project.org to get in touch with!
and lane9project.substack.com to subscribe to our bi-weekly newsletter

Want to hire Lane 9 Project for your run coaching needs, or to provide a workshop to your athletes or staff? Reach out. We'd love to chat!

"As a woman, in the middle of my life, I realized that there was a lot I didn’t know about my own body, and really not understanding how that impacted my overall health and larger systems in my body."

Christine Yu is known most recently for writing and publishing the book "Up to Speed", which explores the myriad issues that have plagued womens' sports for decades, and highlights the "Groundbreaking Science of Women Athletes". She's been writing in the women's health and fitness space for years as a journalist, and turned that work into a book that will change the game for coaches and any support staff in sports at all levels.

In this episode we talk about Christine's unique experience in youth sports without the pressure of specialization, how she got into surfing as an adult which ultimately led to her career pivot from public policy to journalism, and the actual groundbreaking science of women athletes.

The links:

Christine's Substack
@cyu888 on Instagram
her BOOK, "Up to Speed" !

Get in touch with us via Lane9project.org. And follow on Instagram @lane9project.

"Maybe the issue is we don’t care about the long term effects…until it’s too late."

Amelia Boone is five years out from her second time in high level Eating Disorder (ED) treatment, training for her next 100-miler, and enjoying the year of "Maybe". She recently wrote about being past her "prime" as an athlete, and has also shared personal updates such as choosing to freeze her eggs, the long process of building back up to running after her recent stress fracture, and ending her time as a sponsored athlete. Amelia is known for so many accomplishments in the endurance running world—an obstacle course racing champion, and ED awareness advocate, a talented ultra-marathon runner, etc. In this conversation, we tough on what that all looks like now, in 2024, and how's she processing it. Everything from the long-term health effects of eating disorders and hypothalamic amenorrhea to what "recovery" means to her, at least for now.

The links:

@arboone11 on Instagram, X, and Threads

ameliaboone.substack.com

lane9project.org

lane9project.substackcom

@lane9project on Instagram and Threads

If you know what we meant by "holding up your left hand" to check some geography during this episode, you get ten points! Tag us @lane9Project on IG and we'll award them accordingly.

This is a check in episode! Co-founder Heather Caplan, about to earn a double RD after her name (you'll see), checks in to see what you're doing to add some FUN to your runs, and shares how she's been doing that recently. (See: Music, running groups, community, and more! HBU?) She also offers a period check in, because the more we talk about these things, maybe (maybe!) the less in-our-feels we might, feel, about them.

And last but not least, a note about the race(s) she has coming up this month, like the Bayshore Half Marathon in Traverse City. Will we see local and global running celebrity Des Linden back on the course?!

The links:

CHECK IN with your updates to these questions or whatever else is on your mind: Lane9project.substack.com

Follow along on Instagram: @lane9project

Get in touch: Lane9project.org

“I was modeling all these super lean athletes that we see in the media and that are celebrated for their somatotype, even though, you know, they may have achieved that by very unhealthy means.”

Pippa Woolven is the founder of Project RED-S and a former elite and champion steeplechase runner in both the UK and US. In the last few years Pippa has become a first-time parent, and managed Project RED-S, while navigating and exploring this era of her relationship to running and competing. Her work and story have been featured in national publications such as CNN and Runner's World, raising awareness of the prevalence of RED-S, and its impact on athletes' overall health.

The links:

red-s.com

@project_reds_ on IG

lane9project.org

@lane9project on IG

Newsletter: lane9project.substack.com

If you want to connect with us, share your story, and/or join us for a conversation, reach out via Lane9Project.org .

"It took me a lot of tries to get it right," shares professional ultra-marathoner Dr. Stefanie Flippin, of her journey with the 100-mile distance. Stef is not only a professional ultra-marathoner, sponsored by lululemon and GU energy labs, she's also a podiatrist (currently on sabbatical from private practice but still consulting on medical cases), and a running coach with the Lift Run Perform team.

In this conversation with Lane 9 Project co-founder, Heather Caplan RDN, Stef shares insight into how she's managed to run not one but many 100-mile races, winning the 2021 Ultramarathon National Championship (100-Mile distance), and becoming a professional athlete while also maintaining her work as a physician.

Additionally, Stef shares details about the recent lululemon FURTHER event, wherein they brought 10 women of various backgrounds and athletic experiences to run a 6-day ultramarathon, while also conducting biomedical, biophysical, and psychosocial research on the athlete's experience.

The links:

Stef Flippin and Carolyn Su, co-hosts of Making Strides podcast, hosting shakeout runs and a live podcast event in Boston. Event details here!
@stefanieannflippin on Instagram
StefanieFlippin.com

Lane9Project.org. Contact us if you have any questions about the show, guest/topic requests, and/or want to work with Lane 9! Subscribe to the bi-weekly Newsletter at Lane9project.substack.com. Follow @Lane9Project on Instagram.

"People are going to get a really realistic dose of me in this episode!" Mary Johnson, running coach and owner of the Run Coaching group and team, Lift Run Perform, joins us for this episode. She's been part of the Lane 9 project since it began, submitting personal essays and having conversations with us about all things disordered eating, amenorrhea, and working toward big fitness goals while keeping your health and wellbeing intact.

We cover a LOT in this episode:

Mary's go-to strategy for keeping boundaries with social media

Current training and fitness goals (you heard it here first, she's got her eyes on something new!)

Making big life decisions while keeping our short terms goals in mind, but also in check

Why having her life-altering hip surgery in 2022 is something she's proud of, and how it has changed her running & perspectives

The links:

Dopamine Nation book by Anna Lembke MD Opal Screentime app

Milkman songs on Spotify

@itsamarython on Instagram , @liftrunperform on Instagram

LiftRunPerform.com

And all the Lane 9 Project things: Lane9Project.org, lane9project.substack.com (bi-weekly newsletter!), and @Lane9Project on Instagram.

Is running still feeling fun? What do you tell your ego when a race day isn't going as planned? Alexis and Heather check in on these big questions, recap the recent NYC Half-Marathon, and talk about the more common but less "celebrated" postpartum running journey, pelvic floor PT and all.

The links:

Lane9Project.org

@lane9project on Instagram

lane9project.substack.com for essays and newsletters!

Contact us with questions and/or ways to work with Lane 9 Project! We'd love to hear from you.

Traditional eating disorder (ED) treatment models have fallen short on including relationships to sport and movement into the therapeutic process. Opal Food and Body Wisdom treatment center in Seattle WA opened in 2012 to change that. To acknowledge that we, as humans, are embodied beings and that sport has potential to be so beneficial to us. Kara Bazzi, Opal co-founder, joins this Lane 9 podcast episode to talk about her experience as an accompllished D1 Collegiate runner who struggled with an eating disorder, and how she went on to build Opal with her cofounders, Julie Church RDN and Lexi Giblin PhD.

The links:

Lane9Project.org

@lane9project on Instagram

lane9project.substack.com for essays and newsletters!

Opal: opalfoodandbody.com

Alexis and Heather check in on their own training things, and welcome your input on 1) a podcast intro hot take and 2) which spring half-marathon Alexis should be signing up for (traveling from Denver)! Tag us @lane9project on IG or send an email with your thoughts.

They also chat through a few things going on in the running world right now, including but not limited to Nikki Hiltz's fire streak that keeps on keeping on, Parker Valby chucking the norms in training and doing her 3-days-a-week thing, and what happens when new parents win big titles.

The links:

Lane9Project.org

@lane9project on Instagram

lane9project.substack.com for essays and newsletters!

What we consider normal, or even "healthy", is so often shaped by and evolves with the communities we're in. With increased access to the training and lives of elite athletes and recreational runners alike, it can be hard to decipher what's disordered, "disciplined", worth pursuing, and/or damanging to your overall wellbeing. Abby and I chat about her relationship to movement, her work as a sports dietitian getting athletes at all levels to eat more, and we get into a few questions from the community!

The links:

Lane 9 Project community survey (come tell us about you!)

Newsletter Lane9project.substack.com

Lane 9 Project on Instagram @lane9project

We're working on content and event partnerships and collaborations! Interested? Contact us via lane9project.org.

Abby Chan RD @abbytheRD on Instagram and TikTok, and Evolve FLG here.

Based on a recent newsletter essay, Alexis and Heather talk in much more detail about catalysts for change, the very gradual processes they each experienced coming out of disordered eating and movement patterns, and even the soccer to endurance running pipeline. If you relate, we'd love to hear from you!

The links:

Lane 9 Project community survey (come tell us about you!)

Newsletter Lane9project.substack.com

Lane 9 Project on Instagram @lane9project

We're working on content and event partnerships and collaborations! Interested? Contact us via lane9project.org.

What IS the Lane 9 Project? On the Lane 9 podcast, we're diving back in and starting with the co-founder's meet cute, followed by the big goals they're working on now. A sub-3 marathon on has been on Alexis's list for a long time, but first she had to take many steps back. Hear more about that process on this episode, and read more about it in the bi-weekly newsletter!

The links:

Lane 9 Project community survey (come tell us about you!)

Newsletter Lane9project.substack.com

Lane 9 Project on Instagram @lane9project

We're working on content and event partnerships and collaborations! Interested? Contact us via lane9project.org.

Listen to find out!

Thanks for being here. More to come!

Heather

Morgan Sinclair, co-host of the Weight-Inclusive Innovators podcast, joins WIND Event Director Heather Caplan for a review of 2022! This episode covers the three biggest changes to WIND—most of which happened between March and July of 2022—and how much WIND has changed since this time last year. (Spoiler: A LOT.)

It also covers some of the bigger things that happened in the general weight-inclusive spaces this year (which previous episodes on this podcast feed explore in more detail: Response to the AND Proposed Weight Management Guidelines, and What Happened in the HAES® Spaces), and how that shaped future WIND offerings.

Tune in to hear all of those things, and more! Like, how the Foundations Workshop actually turned out (plus why WIND was nervous to host it), and the mantra plus big new offerings for 2023!

If you haven't yet, fill out our 2022 Community Survey for WIND, to give us your feedback!

Check out more from Morgan & Weight Inclusive Innovators:

Morgan Sinclair Designs Studio
Weight Inclusive Innovators (WII) Podcast
WII Instagram

ALL the WIND things for 2022:

WIND Foundations Workshop (Replays still available!)
WeightInclusiveNutrition.com
WIND on IG @weightinclusivenutrition
WIND Facebook Group for practitioners

What you’re about to hear is a collection of audio clips from the Foundations of weight-Inclusive care WIND Workshop that I’m co-hosting with Brianna Campos, of Body Image With Bri, THIS WEEK. Yep, these quotes are directly from our live sessions, with consent to share from our speakers. They each answered, in some way, the question of WHY they practice from a weight-inclusive lens. Why weight-inclusive care? Why weight-inclusive activism? Why challenge the “norm” of weight-centric healthcare practices that are touted as the only evidence-based practices?

These sessions are still available, and if it were me, honestly…. I’d metaphorically run, not walk, to register for this workshop. Don’t hurt yourself. It’s a link…you just have to go click on it --> weightinclusivenutrition.teachable.com

You’re about to hear from Aaron Flores, Dori Steinberg, Veronica Garnett, Samantha Barash, Mimi Cole, Ragen Chastain, and Amy Rapone…with a little bonus anti-racism clip from Shelby Gordon. (More information about the full workshop: weightinclusivenutrition.com/workshop)

We feel so lucky to be in these spaces with them, and with you. Let’s go.

Follow along: @weightinclusivenutrition on IG | weightinclusivenutrition.com

Welcome to the WIND podcast! We're diving right in, with some hot takes and real talk between Heather Caplan, the WIND Event Director, and Brianna Campos LPC (aka Body Image With Bri). WIND has partnered with Bri to finally bring the Foundations of Weight-Inclusive Care Workshop to life, and we couldn't be more excited to bring it to YOU.

Go to weightinclusivenutrition.com/workshop for all the details, including the schedule of live events with our incredible speakers, the monthly group meetings that follow, and how it all adds up to a whopping 20 CEUs for RDNs.

Early registration is open Nov. 18-28, 2022. We hope to see you there!

This podcast is produced by Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics LLC. For more information about WIND, go to weightinclusivenutrition.com, and follow on Instagram @weightinclusivenutrition.

Yep, it's me, Heather Caplan! I'm back with two BIG updates. One is an entirely new (and unrelated-to-nutrition)show I've been working on for over a year, titled No One Talks About. All the links are below, if you want to check that out. And, in this episode, you'll hear what BIG change is coming to this podcast feed very soon.

Stay tuned, and stay subscribed, so you don't miss it!

RSVP to Join us for the State of WIND 2022-2023 Webinar (Free!): Click here!

Follow WIND on Instagram: @weightinclusivenutrition

Want to check out non-nutrition-related conversations? Head over to No One Talks About. (Also on Spotify!)

Yep, it's me, Heather Caplan! I'm back with two BIG updates. One is an entirely new (and unrelated-to-nutrition)show I've been working on for over a year, titled No One Talks About. All the links are below, if you want to check that out. And, in this episode, you'll hear what BIG change is coming to this podcast feed very soon.

Stay tuned, and stay subscribed, so you don't miss it!

RSVP to Join us for the State of WIND 2022-2023 Webinar (Free!): Click here!

Follow WIND on Instagram: @weightinclusivenutrition

Want to check out non-nutrition-related conversations? Head over to No One Talks About. (Also on Spotify!)

It's me, your host, Heather Caplan on the finale! My friend, confidant, and now WIND Team member, Kim Hoban, joined me again to help navigate this final conversation for the RD Real Talk show!

In this episode, we talk about:

why I started the show

how I put systems in place

what systems I used and how much time it took

the "Return on investment" for podcasting as a non-diet dietitian

what it felt like to come back to the show after my last maternity leave

and why it's ending!

I'm leaving the show, and wrapping up this project! But, I'm not leaving the weight-inclusive space. You'll find me at all things WIND (Weightinclusivenutritoin.com), and on Instagram @heatherdcRD. In the next few months, I'm hosting the WIND Business Brainstorm, and the WIND Business Owners Mastermind group! Find more information about those things on our newsletter: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Thank you SO MUCH for being here! Keep in touch.

Cheers,

Heather

Tessa Nguyen joined this episode of RD Real Talk to chat about accepting her ultimate dream job (with Diversify Dietetics), what happens when recipe bloggers don't do The Work, her four years in South Korea, and so much more! Tessa's multi-ethnic heritage and lived experience across multiple countries have centered her in providing inclusive services founded in cultural humility.

Tessa is the brand new dietetic internship coordinator for Diversify Dietetics! She's also an internationally acclaimed chef, registered dietitian and educator. As founder and principle of Taste Nutrition Consulting, her talents come to life in many forms. She creates deliciously diverse recipes, does cultural auditing, content development, speaking engagements and various media work.

Resources mentioned:

Diversify Dietetics Website
Diversify Dietetics IG

Where to find Tessa:

Website: https://thetessanguyen.com/
IG: https://www.instagram.com/thetessanguyen/
Email: hello@thetessanguyen.com

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@heatherdcRD
heathercaplan.com
RD Real Talk Show Notes Link
@RDRealTalk on IG

Shana Spence, MS, RDN, CDN is here to chat about what it’s like on the other side of screen as a social media influencer, and how she runs a business while working a 9-5. Shana shares how she sets social media boundaries, goes through her content creating process and the future of The Nutrition Tea.

You probably know Shana from her Instagram account, @thenutritiontea where she bring you all the “tea” on nutrition. For those who don’t know, Shana is a registered Dietitian Nutritionist based in New York and labels herself as an “eat anything” dietitian. She wanted to create a platform for open discussion on nutrition and wellness topics to help folks navigate all the information circulating.

Connect with Shana:

The Nutrition Tea Website
@thenutritiontea on IG
@thenutritiontea on TikTok

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@heatherdcRD
heathercaplan.com
RD Real Talk Show Notes Link
@RDRealTalk on IG

Cara Harbstreet and Whitney Trotter joined this episode LIVE in Denver, CO at the first in-person WIND event since 2020. This was made possible by partnering with Gaudiani Clinic, Eating Disorders Foundation, and SuperBill.

We start this conversation off with some fun topics including pet peeves while traveling, favorite emojis, and superpowers. Cara and Whitney then share how the shift into virtual work has affected their businesses and what major initiative they would want to spearhead within the weight-inclusive healthcare and/or cultural space.

This episode is sponsored by Way Health. Way is a mindful eating app that helps you find peace in your relationship with food and your body. Grounded in mindfulness and cognitive behavioral therapy, they focus on what makes the body feel good and what makes you feel good about your body as an avenue to long-term eating behavior change. Find Way on the Apple Store and other places where apps are sold!

Cara and Whitney answer two audience questions:

How are you taking care of yourself and focusing on client care while trying to balance what’s happening in the spaces of underrepresented identities?
How are you balancing micro or macro aggressions against yourself, your colleagues, and your clients from other professionals while also dealing with the anger, exhaustion and frustration that comes up for you?

A little about our guests:

Cara Harbstreet (she/her) is a registered dietitian and owner of Street Smart Nutrition. Her business includes nutrition commutations, recipe development, individual counseling and Twitter clapbacks. You can find out more about Cara and her work at streetsmartnutrition.com or follow her on IG at streetsmart.rd

Whitney Trotter (she/her) is both a registered dietitian and registered nurse. She is an anti-racism consultant and educator, a human trafficking advocate and a clinician. She specializes in eating disorder treatment and collecting pink coffee mugs. You can find out more about Whitney and her work at whitneytrotter.com or follow her on IG at whitneytrotter.rd

Resources mentioned:

Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics
BIPoC ED Conference
Monique Melton Anti-Racism Educator

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@heatherdcRD

heathercaplan.com

RD Real Talk Show Notes Link

@RDRealTalk on IG

Kymber Stephenson (she/her) is a Colorado-based dietitian who is especially passionate about disordered eating management and prevention. On this episode, we talk about everything from Kymber’s Shark Tank ideas to her attending culinary school and her work as a culinary dietitian to how she became an eating disorder dietitian.

Kymber is focused on educating her clients about the multifaceted ways history, marketing, food systems, culture, psychology, and body image affect health, relationships to food, nutrition and body. She now works with clients to truly fall in love with food again, acknowledging not only its nourishing properties but truly embracing its comfort, tradition and fun.

Resources Mentioned:

Side by Side Nutrition
Fearing the Black Body
Johnson & Wales University

Outpatient ED Training:

EDRD Pro
Marci Evans' Courses

Where to find Kymber:

Side by Side Nutrition
sidebysidenutrition on IG
Side by Side Nutrition on FB

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@heatherdcRD
heathercaplan.com
RD Real Talk Show Notes Link
@RDRealTalk on IG

If you're craving a close, consistent community of fellow non-diet providers, but don't know where to go to start building that squad, this is the episode for you. Meet: The Mastermind Group.

Facebook groups, Instagram, and big conferences aren't it. A small, tight-knit group of fellow providers who are IN it—business development, anti-diet work, etc.—aka a Mastermind, could be exactly what you need.

If you are ready to join my Mastermind and Supervision group package, CLICK HERE. Or email me: RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com.

This episode is a conversation between Kim Hoban RD and me, your host, Heather Caplan RD, about our 3-year experience in a small Mastermind group together. We talk about how that group was so formative to our businesses and our work, and how we made it happen!

Why did I (Heather) want to create the Mastermind space
Why did Kim decide to join
What happened during our meetings
Why is it helpful to be in these conversations together, not just seeing the Highlight Reel
How do we define a Mastermind group experience
Why it's helpful to be in community with a variety of experiences and perspectives
What big projects we each did because of our Mastermind group experiences

Kim is now part of the Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) team. So, the ripple effects of the Mastermind group keep flowing!

Kim Hoban RD: @KimHobanRD, KHnutrition.com

Heather Caplan RD: @heatherdcRD, HeatherCaplan.com

Hannah Turnbull is back to talk about all things insurance in a private practice. Hannah gives us the details about how she started taking insurance, why she’s very passionate about other RDs using insurance benefits in their private practice and how to do all of that through a non-diet, weight-inclusive lens.

Hannah is a registered dietitian, founder and director of NourishED Colorado while also embarking on a new business venture, Values Driven Group. Her passion for business, finances and execution are what lead her to create a place where she can help empower dietitians, therapists and other health care professional build a thriving group practice.

Resources Mentioned:

NourishED
Values Drive Group
Morgan Sinclair Designs
Weight Inclusive Innovators Podcast
Hannah’s IG
Values Driven Group IG
Weight Inclusive Innovators IG

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD @heatherdcRD , heathercaplan.com

RD Real Talk Show Notes Link

@RDRealTalk on IG

Wendy Lopez and Jessica Jones are two nationally recognized, weight-inclusive registered dietitans and the founders of Food Heaven. On this episode, we chat about podcasting, business and the evolution of their careers as practioners. Wendy and Jessica have been running the Food Heaven Podcast for 7 years and still continue to find new, interesting and inspiring guests to interview. These two multi-passionate BFFs share their tips to running a successful podcast, the importance of diversifying income streams, avoiding burnout and where the future of Food Heaven is headed. Resources we talked about:

Food Heaven Podcast: How to Make Money with Your Money
Food Heaven Made Easy

Where to find Wendy and Jess:

@foodheaven on IG
@foodheavenfam on TikTok

Your host: Heather Caplan

RDHeathercaplan.com

RD Real Talk Show Notes link

@RDRealTalk on IG

Hannah Turnbull and Morgan Sinclair, hosts of the podcast Weight Inclusive Innovators, join this episode to talk shop about being weight-inclusive Enneagram 7s running a business! Hannah and Morgan have very different businesses, but our brains work in similar ways. (I'm an Enneagram, too! So, I relate.)

Being weight-inclusive Enneagram 7s running a business means we have a constant loop of business ideas, get very enthusiastic about starting a project and...sometimes have a hard time following through, sticking to it, and focusing on just a few offers! We talk about how, as weight-inclusive Enneagram 7s, we can easily come up with new business ideas, but can not as easily stay the path.

This episode is sponsored by SuperBill. Check out what they can do for you and your practice: thesuperbill.com/rdrealtalk

Resources we talked about:

Weight Inclusive Innovators podcast
Values Driven Group
Asana
Rachel Rodgers / Hello 7
Morgan Sinclair Designs
Your Enneagram Number and Business Download from VDG

Your host: Heather Caplan RD

Heathercaplan.com

RD Real Talk Show Notes link

@RDRealTalk on IG

Karlee Golightly (they/them) is an eating disorders dietitian and private practice owner in Denver, CO. On this episode, we chat about their fourth year in business, running the show as an Enneagram 9w1 and how those strengths and challenges show up in their brain, and making pivots when it feels like the time to do so! (And how only you can decide when that time is!)

WIND Summer Series, including Group Supervision with Karlee: weightinclusivenutrition.teachable.com

Where to find Karlee:

@MoxieMind on Instagram

Moxie-Mind.com

Their Counseling Course and resources for Dietitians: moxie-mind.com/for-clinicians

Your host: Heather Caplan RD

Heathercaplan.com

RD Real Talk Show Notes link

@RDRealTalk on IG

A LOT has happened in the Health at Every Size® and weight-inclusive communities since Marquisele (Mikey) Mercedes published an essay outlining oppressive and harmful interactions with Lindo Bacon on her Patreon. Lindley Ashline shared her own experiences, as did the ASDAH leadership team. You'll find links below to get started, if you missed these essays and posts!

Lindley Ashline and Shelby Gordon both joined me on this episode to review what's been happening, and where we go from here. We'll continue to discuss this through community prompts (provided by Lindley) at the June WIND Community Hangout (a free event!).

This episode is sponsored by the WIND Summer Series, where Shelby Gordon is a featured speaker on anti-oppression and white supremacy in nutrition and dietetics. Register here to join us: https://weightinclusivenutrition.teachable.com/p/wind-summer-series-2022

Things to read:

"I will never work with you" by Mikey Mercedes
"A week into the Lindo-pocalypse" by Mikey Mercedes
"Movements, Missing Stairs, and Lindo Bacon" by Lindley Ashline
"HAES History and Thinness" by Lindley Ashline
"Holding Lindo Bacon Accountable..." by the ASDAH Leadership Team

WIND Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/WINDwork

FREE WIND Community Hangout on 6/7/22 -- join the Fb group or WIND newsletter for more info!

Your host: Heather Caplan RD

HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk on IG

I'll lead with the lead: this is the final season of RD Real Talk podcast...I'm pretty sure! (Said like a true Enneagram 7.) This episode features a sneak peak at the WIND Summer Series. Check it out here: Weightinclusivenutrition.teachable.com!

There are (at least) ten SOLID episodes of this show left, and I'm so excited (and feeling lucky) to be recording them over the next two months. But after that, we take a break! Indefinitely.

So, don't go anywhere too soon. In this episode, I share some of the business insights and numbers from the show over the past 5 years! I share why I've loved doing this podcast, and why I'm pausing it for now, and maybe for always. And I'm sharing a little reminder for whoever needs it: success doesn't have to mean a million downloads, or a show that produces prolificly for infinity.

If you want to start your own anti-diet, weight-inclusive show, I'm here for it! Do it.

And per usual, reach out anytime to say hi, tell me about your work, ask questions, or whatever you feel compelled to send in a (respectful) email. RDRealTalk at gmail dot com.

You'll find me and my work on the internet, @heatherdcRD on IG, and heathercaplan.com. And if you want more RD Real Talk vibes in the form of community and continuing education, come join us at WIND.

WeightInclusiveNutrition.com

A live group podcast with the WIND community! This episode is a recording from the final session of the recent 4th annual WIND Spring Symposium, and features some of our speakers from the event—Brianna Campos, Narmin Virani, and Kim Hoban. We also hear from a few folx in the "audience". Here are all the links we mention and things we chat about: * WIND Summer Series! Community hangouts, Supervision Sessions, and Monthly Trainings — save your Tuesdays for all things WIND this summer. Learn more here! (weightinclusivenutrition.com) * Diversify Dietetics Spring Summit, happening May 12-13 (More info here!) * WIND's donation for this event: FEDUP Collective (fedupcollective.org) * "Safe and Brave Spaces Don't Work..." — by Elise Ahenkorah * Enneagram Institute Test

Thanks for listening and supporting this show! Follow along on Instagram @RDRealTalk Learn more about Heather Caplan's work and how to work with her: heathercaplan.com

Erin McDonaugh (she/her) is a writer, fat personal trainer, and fat activist who's especially interested in fat mental health and the negative mental health effects of anti-fatness. On this episode we chat about anti-fatness in various weight-inclusive spaces, negative mental health effects of this anti-fatness on both clients and colleagues, and the work is Erin is doing in the fitness and fat liberation spaces! Follow and support Erin's work:

@Queer_Erin on Twitter
theweightneutralcoach.com

Follow RD Real Talk on Instagram: @RDRealTalk and reach out anytime! RD Real Talk at Gmail dot com.

Cara Harbstreet MS RD, she/her, frequent RD Real Talk guest, is back to talk about some fitness things! We start with a casual check in on all things running—a form of movement we both enjoy in different ways. Then we touch on fitness culture and diet culture, scope of practice, and a note on the research and evidence side of things. A content warning: We discuss running in some specifics (numbers of miles, etc.), and quickly review a research article that uses weight stigmatizing language.

This episode features information about the upcoming 2022 WIND Spring Symposium. Register to join us here!

Things we mention:

Opal Treatment Center
Lift.Run.Perform run coaching
Study outlining physical activity benefits in "obesity treatment"

Resources:

WIND Spring Symposium - Come join us!
RD Real Talk Newsletter

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

Inspired by Hannah Turnbull and Morgan Sinclair, today, I take some time to share my real talk, non-diet, business recap of quarter one with you. A lot has happened in the Anti-Diet and Weight Inclusive Dietetics space over the last three months, and in addition to having three kids, I tend to put a lot on my ~self-made~ work plate. I took this episode to debrief and review all the things from Q1. Tune in as I talk shop about my intentions, revenue goals and business investments and my plans for the next few months!

People Mentioned:

Hannah Turnbull, RDN’s Instagram
Morgan Sinclair MS, RDN, LD’s Instagram
Weight Inclusive Innovator’s Podcast
Hello Seven podcast
Naureen Hunani’s Instagram
Clara Nosek’s Instagram

Resources:

WIND Spring Symposium - Come join us!
WIND Letter
The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

Amee Severson (she/they) joins this episode to chat about a few big life changes—publishing a book (How to Raise an Intuitive Eater, co-authored with Sumner Brooks), changing their Instagram handle to open up more possibility for what they share on the platform, and sharing their identities as non-binary and queer. We catch up on all of the above! Learn more about Amee's work:

Prosper Nutrition Practice
How to Raise an Intuitive Eater book
IG @ameeistalking

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your host: Heather Caplan RD , on IG @heatherdcRD
RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

Ani Janzen MPHD RD, Veronica Garnett MS RD, Dr. Kendrin Sonneville ScD RD, and Cara Harbstreet MS RD joined this episode for a variety of conversations in response to the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND) "new" suggested guidelines for Adult Weight Management (treatment of "overweight" and "obesity"). CW: stigmatizing and pathologizing language related to body size and BMI category, calorie counts, and harmful views toward marginazlied groups (expressed by the AND)

If you have the energy and feel safe engaging in this conversation, click here to view the guidelines and fill out the Public Comment survey before March 25, 2022.

If you are financially able to support the work of ASDAH, go to asdah.org to learn more about their work and how you can support it.

Links we talk about:

AND's "new" guidelines for adult weight management
ASDAH's Statement to the Community
WIND Statement

Featured Guests:

Ani Janzen MPH RD
Veronica Garnett MS RD
Dr. Kendrin Sonneville ScD RDN
Cara Harbstreet MS RD

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

David Orozco RD joins this episode to talk about his experiences as a weight-inclusive, non-diet, Latinx dietitian. We talk about about how he has experienced the wrath of diet culture as it tries to demonize foods that remind him of his Columbian upbringing, and how the Intuitive Eating space is a place where he has found comfort in providing sound advice for himself AND his clients to keep their traditions alive in their cooking. We don’t talk about Bruno, but we ARE going to talk about misguided diet culture advocates claiming that cultural foods like, arepas, empanadas, and tostones are bad. We also chat about his journey through transitioning his practice from wellness to intuitive eating, his experience with being a male in a female dominated profession, his NEW BOOK, and MORE!

This Episode Covers:

David’s journey with transitioning his practice from wellness to practicing an Intuitive Eating approach in the early 2010s
How the American standards of food and nutrition impact his teachings
Acculturation
David’s experience with being a male in a predominantly female space
His upcoming book, “One Small Bite”

Resources:

David’s Instagram
David’s Podcast
Referenced Episode
David’s Website
David’s New Book !!
My NEW 10 Week Non-Diet Camp, starting March 23!
Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan
The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

WTAF RDs Jenna Werner and Sammy Previte joined this episode to have a casual, fun, and no-BS conversation about needing a break from even the non-diet things, big life changes, and if what we're seeing from diet culture is the $72 Billion industry's last breath. (We can ONLY HOPE!)

This Episode Covers:

Our non-work related Podcast recommendations
The Evolution of Sam & Jenna’s practice/method as dietitians
How Jenna and Sam wish that there was more awareness of anti-diet nutrition
“That Girl” Culture
How shitty Noom is
Our beef with influencers who spew false and misleading info about intuitive eating

Resources:

What the Actual Fork Podcast
Jenna’s Instagram
Sam’s Instagram
Podcast Recs: Call Her Daddy with Jamie Lynn Spears, Smartless, Under the Influence
10 week Diet Support Group
Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan
NEW Client packages OPEN NOW!
The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

Follow The RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

I have been on the RDRealTalk Podcast train for the past 5 years (WHOA). It’s been nowhere near perfect, but this space is not for perfectionism! It's a space for questioning the ways diet culture has conditioned us to think there's only one way to do things, following the rules, and being "successful". So, for the sake of transparency, in celebration of my 200th(ish) episode, I share an honest reflection on my failures (and successes) because I’m human and I’m [still] learning!

This Episode Covers:

Why I don’t archive episodes
My hiatus during post-pregnancy
How I’ve fallen short and what I want to do better
Why I don’t always have sponsors & MORE!

Resources:

• Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan
• NEW Client packages open now!
• The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!
• Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@ gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your host: Heather Caplan RD on IG @heatherdcRD

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Many folx who are ready to divest from diet culture, and want to eat intuitively, also want to keep some of the old with the new. Food tracking provides a sense of control, comfort, safety — maybe all of the above. These apps, like many apps, are designed to create a sense of dependency. But, do we really need them? Are they helpful, and if so, how and in what ways? How can we use them as an imperfect tool, instead of a crutch? This episode dives into all of the above, while trying to answer the big question: Is it possible to food track and eat intuitively??

This episode covers:

Strategies for tracking food mindfully
How some food tracking apps can be less terrible than others
Methods to move away from tracking our food and movement
Things to consider if you find tracking helpful & MORE!

Sumner Brooks, MPH RDN, co-author of the new book, How to Raise an Intuitive Eater, joins the show for a conversation about why this book needed to exist, even though we are born as intuitive eaters.

This episode covers how strongly diet culture has impacted the way parents feed and nourish their kids, what role social media plays in misinformation around IE for kids, and the 3 keys to intuitive eating for kids, which Sumner and Amee outline in their book!

Order from Bookshop.org: How to Raise an Intuitive Eater by Sumner Brooks MPH RDN and Amee Severson MPP-D RDN

Follow Sumner's work: @IntuitiveEatingRD on IG

Resources mentioned: * IntuitiveEating4Kids.com * NEW Client packages are open. Let's work together! * The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your host: Heather Caplan RD , on IG @heatherdcRD
RD Real Talk Podcast on IG @RDRealTalk

Well, I was ready to tell you why food tracking apps are probably not the "healthy eating" solution you were looking for. But first, I turned to YOU, my community on Instagram @heatherdcRD, and paused to ask you some questions.

I could tell I was coming in hot with this topic, and it felt like I needed to stop and actually check in with YOU. And what you shared with me helped me shift the tone of this episode!

This episode covers:

What a food tracking app is and is not
What this tool could be helpful for
How this tool becomes harmful, especially when trying to eat intuitively
A reminder that we are humans, not robots
What I encourage you (practitioner or consumer) to consider before using or deleting your food tracking app!

Resources Mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
NEW client packages open now!
The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

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We're human; we want to know if we're doing something right or wrong! Even when we're not dieting, we want to know, are we doing this intuitive eating thing the "right" way? A listener asked what milestones to look for, how to know if they were being "successful" with intuitive eating. So, this episode explores what that looks like, why that question is so common, and some "success" traps to avoid from diet culture!

You'll also here the answer to two Intuitive Eating questions:

What do I do if I'm not feeling hungry (because of emotional overwhelm and/or stress), but I know that I need to eat?
And, what if I eat intuitively but never eat a vegetable?! I just don't like them!

Resources mentioned: * Episode #183: What IS Intuitive Eating? With Jessi Haggerty RD * Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/ * NEW Client packages open now! * The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

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"Diet culture loves to oversimplify our experiences, and make them all about food." And I know you're currently getting bombarded with diet culture's messaging about holiday eating!

This episode offers you a snippet of a free event I hosted with Athleta last month, "How to Set Intuitive Eating Holiday Intentions!" I offer some reflections and prompts for journaling, and three tips for how to nourish yourself and eat intuitively during a holiday.

And of course, you can take what you like and apply it to any season of life!

Resources mentioned: * Intuitive Eating 101 on AthletaWell * AthletaWell.com * Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/ * NEW Client packages opening next month! * The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

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When you think about the words "health" or "healthy", what comes to mind? Is it diet culture's version of health—a body ideal, superfoods, gallons of water, and the perfect exercise routine?

On this episode, we're taking a hard look at what we think of when we hear the words health or healthy, and getting honest about how we've probably tried healthism on for size.

Then, we take it back! We reclaim healthy from diet culture, and use four prompts to help you decide what it means TO YOU!

Robert Crawford's paper: "Healthism and the medicalization of everyday life" PMID: 7419309
Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
NEW Client packages opening next month!
The RD Real Talk question and/or topic request form!

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This episode is a short dive into how we UN-learn the idea that foods can be "good" or "bad", "healthy" OR "unhealthy" — the oversimplified categories that diet culture teaches us to apply to food. This is a scam! Food is food. It can't be bad, but it can taste bad. So, let's flip this and reverse it—taking diet culture's game and playing it with our own rules.

And, a little note on WHY we sometimes (often?) need these things to be simple. It's okay to be in that season of life.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

Anti-Diet RD Training & Supervision with Heather Caplan, starts in January 2022: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
NEW Client packages opening in January 2022!
Ask your own question on the show, fill out this form: https://hdcrd.typeform.com/to/oylPOgnw?

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RDRT is back! It's been a while! But we're here! This teaser episode includes 3 big announcements, including an opportunity work on the RDRT team, client sessions, and an update to the Anti-Diet RD program and supervision group.

FILL OUT THIS FORM to submit a question or topic for the show!

Thanks for being here. I appreciate you!

Your host: @heatherdcRD

Podcast on IG: @RDRealTalk

This is a brief preview of the virtual Anti-Diet RD Program I host via Teachable. Registration opens back up in September 2021, via heathercaplan.teachable.com.

In this short episode you'll hear about half of the first module, the Foundations of Anti-Diet Work! Obviously you can't see the slides, but hopefully you'll still "get the gist", as they say.

Article mentioned, differentiating fatphobia from anti-fat bias, can be found here.

Check out HeatherCaplan.Teachable.Com to learn more about what's offered in the course, and to join the course email list so you know when registration opens later this year!

More Resources:

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Training with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
Holding Space for Weight Loss Conversations — WIND Webinar with Bri Campos LPC
RD2RD store: https://rd2rd.com/vendor/heatherdcrd/

Download the NEW Anti-Diet RD Guide to Weight Loss Conversations by clicking here, and subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter!

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How does a business owner in the non-diet space take parental leave? Well, this is one look at one person’s experience! (Mine; it’s my experience.) I’m preparing for my third parental leave as a non-diet business owner and podcaster, and am here to share what that looks like with transparency. If you have questions or find yourself wanting a little more info, reach out. I’ll share what I feel comfortable sharing, in hopes it’ll help you plan your own leave in some way!

And P.S. you (obviously) don’t have to have kids to take a substantial/important break from work. And P.P.S. parental leave is in no way shape or form a “vacation”; it’s a lot of work, just a different kind of work.

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Let's talk about the biases that will, and do, pop up in anti-diet work! Let's talk about unearned privileges—how they influence anti-diet work. And let's definitely talk about trickiness of navigating a shifting RD identity, because it happens to many folx who are doing this work.

This episode is a glimpse into the nature of Group Discussions and trainings that are part of the virtual Anti-Diet RD program I lead via Teachable, and live sessions. You can purchase the recorded, self-paced version of this course for a limited time, by going to heathercaplan.teachable.com. (Closes 5/28/21!) Or, you can hang tight and join us in the Fall of 2021, for the next live cohort.

Want to check out a FREE Preview of the course? Click here to watch!

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This episode features a panel of registered dietitians: April Hackert, Megan Kniskern, and Tammy Beasley. These three dietitians co-authored the Revised Standards of Practice (SOP) and Standards of Professional Performance (SOPP) for Registered Dietitians in Disordered Eating and Eating Disorders, published by the Journal for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics in 2020. We talk about why this paper was published, what changes are included, and how they added weight-inclusive language and standards to this publication.

Link to the full paper: Revised 2020 SOPs and SOPPs for ED and DE.

BIPOC Resource Share: Another nod to the work Whitney Trotter is doing, check out her BIPOC ED Providers list, and bookmark it for referrals.

Other resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Training Program, self-paced version coming soon!
NEW WIND Webinar happening on 5/20/21: Mindfulness of Trauma in Dietetics. Register here!
RD2RD store: https://rd2rd.com/vendor/heatherdcrd/

Download the NEW Anti-Diet RD Guide to Weight Loss Conversations by clicking here, and subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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This episode explores four common myths and misperceptions about the non-diet approach and intuitive eating. These are four things that have popped up with my supervision group recently, and I hope chatting about these things helps you too. Enjoy!

BIPOC Resource:

Sign up for the Anti-Racism Processing Group led by Shelby Gordon and Whitney Trotter RN RD (launching in June 2021!): $200 for 4 sessions

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Training with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
Holding Space for Weight Loss Conversations — WIND Webinar with Bri Campos LPC
RD2RD store: https://rd2rd.com/vendor/heatherdcrd/

Download the NEW Anti-Diet RD Guide to Weight Loss Conversations by clicking here, and subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Support the show and get exclusive content via Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rdrealtalk

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Bri Campos LPC, joins us again on the show to talk about how dietitians can provide body image counseling within our scope of practice. We talk about what is and isn’t in the scope of the dietitian’s practice when it comes to providing body image support, what to consider for your practice and services, what we mean when we say “holding space for,” and why it is so important to hold space for weight loss goals and bad body image days in this work. Bri is always a wealth of information on these topics!

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Training with Heather Caplan: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
Holding Space for Weight Loss Conversations — WIND Webinar with Bri Campos LPC
Bri’s website for the multiple courses she offers can be found here

Download the NEW Anti-Diet RD Guide to Weight Loss Conversations by clicking here, and subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter!

Where to find Bri:

@bodyimagewithBri
The Body Image with Bri™ Podcast

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Haley Goodrich RDN, CEDRD-S joins me on the show to chat about what clinical supervision looks like for dietitians, some ways it can be helpful, and some real talk about how it is or isn’t accessible. We also address how you can find a supervision relationship that might be good for you and what various supervision options bring to the table. Enjoy!

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
INSPIRDtoSEEK’s free facebook group
WIND Facebook group

Where to find Haley:

Instagram: @hgoodrichrd
Twitter:@hgoodrichrd
Website: https://www.inspirdnutrition.com/inspird-to-seek

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Jessi Haggerty, registered dietitian and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins me for the LAST episode on this podcast series of questions! This time, we address some recent diet culture atrocities, answer some big FAQs about non-diet nutrition, and bust some myths along the way. Enjoy!

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/

Where to find Jessi:

Instagram: @jessihaggertyrd
Website: jessihaggerty.com
Twitter: @jessihaggertyrd
The Body Love Podcast

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Jessi Haggerty, registered dietitian and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins me for the fourth episode on this podcast series of questions!

On this episode we address the question, “What IS weight inclusive care?”. We talk about how weight inclusive care differs from the norms of healthcare, weight stigma, and…how weight management is an expression of weight stigma.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/
The Weight-Inclusive versus Weight-Normative Approach to Health: Evaluating the Evidence for Prioritizing Well-Being over Weight Loss, Tylka et al.
RD Real Talk Episode 165: How Weight Management is a Form of Weight Stigma‬

Where to find Jessi:

Instagram: @jessihaggertyrd
Website: jessihaggerty.com
Twitter: @jessihaggertyrd
The Body Love Podcast

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Jessi Haggerty, registered dietitian and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins me for the third episode on this podcast series of questions!

In this episode, we dissect the question, what is intuitive eating? We pull back the big veil that social media often has on the words “intuitive eating.” It is much more than a set of principles, AND we should and do give credit to the authors of the books on Intuitive Eating, dietitians Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resche. Intuitive eating doesn’t fit into the same box for every person and certainly is full of nuance.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/

Where to find Jessi:

Instagram: @jessihaggertyrd
Website: jessihaggerty.com
Twitter: @jessihaggertyrd
The Body Love Podcast

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Jessi Haggerty, registered dietitian and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins me for the second episode on this podcast series of questions!

Here, we talk about what it means to be “anti-diet”, and to align with this paradigm in the dietetics field. You might feel like you’re seeing “anti-diet” everywhere, but what does it really mean? What are we against? What are we for? How does anti-diet work show up in practice, personally or professionally? Let’s dive in!

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/

Where to find Jessi:

Instagram: @jessihaggertyrd
Website: jessihaggerty.com
Twitter: @jessihaggertyrd
The BodyLove Project Podcast

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Jessi Haggerty, registered dietitian and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins me for a podcast series of questions!

In this episode of the series, we totally deconstruct diet culture, why it matters, and how to recognize it in all its sneaky tactics. For example, most recently diet culture decided to slap “Intuitive” in front of fasting, trying to gaslight folx into thinking that meticulously planning ahead and eating at certain times of day while fasting for an exact number of hours is, in any way, intuitive.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Anti-Diet RD Course here: https://heathercaplan.teachable.com/

Where to find Jessi:

Instagram: @jessihaggertyrd
Website: jessihaggerty.com
Twitter: @jessihaggertyrd

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Rosie Mensah MPH, RD joins us on the show to give us the real talk on anti-oppression work, launching a course, and being flexible in your experiments. On this episode we also talk about Rosie’s new course for dietitians and RDs2Be, CEDAR (Culture, Equity, Diversity, and Race). We talk about why she created it, what she is teaching fellow dietitians through it, and the real, behind-the-scenes action of bringing a course like this to life.

Resources mentioned:

Rosie’s course link
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!

Where to find Rosie:

Instagram: @therosienutrionist
Website: https://therosienutritionist.com/
PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/therosienutritionist

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Bri Campos LPC, aka @bodyimagewithbri (on Instagram and TikTok), gives healthcare practitioners the real talk about body image, secure attachments, and self-esteem. We talk about what body image is and isn't, her own body image process and how it influenced her work, and the influence of body image on our behaviors, lifestyle, and even career choices. We also dive into Attachment Theory, and how secure attachments and self-esteem might affect body image (among many other things).

Resources mentioned:

Register for the 2021 virtual WIND Spring Symposium!
WIND Facebook group
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision: Come join us! Bri will be a featured expert in March 2021!
WIND Webinar (for practitioners): How to handle body image conversations by Bri Campos LPC

Where to find Bri:

@bodyimagewithBri
How to find out more about working with Bri: https://linktr.ee/bodyimagewithbri
The Body Image with Bri™ Podcast

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Esther Tambe MS, RDN, CDCES joins us to talk about how she opened up her weight-inclusive private practice during a global pandemic. We talk about the behind the scenes pieces of business ownership, how Esther invested in herself throughout the process, how she delegated work, and how she is doing today with her practice.

Resources mentioned:

Register for the 2021 WIND Spring Symposium!
Join us on instagram at @weightinclusivenutrition
WIND Facebook group
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision: Come join us!

Where you can find Esther:

Instagram: @et.the.rd

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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178: Media Tips from an Anti-Diet Journalist

Christine Byrne, anti diet journalist, and RD2BE, joins us on the show today. Christine and I dive into the complexities of getting anti diet information into the media. We talk about her experience pitching stories, how weight stigma shows up in the industry, and how the media is evolving.

Resources mentioned:

Register for the 2021 WIND Spring Symposium!
Join us on instagram at @weightinclusivenutrition
WIND Facebook group
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!

Where to find Christine:

Instagram: @christinejbyrne

Twitter: @christinejbyrne

Website: https://christinejbyrne.com/

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Alissa Rumsey MS, RDN joins this episode to chat about her new book, “Unapologetic Eating”! We dive into why she wrote the book, more about the process, and what she learned along the way.

This episode is sponsored by Eat Well Connect! Eat Well Connect is a free platform for nutrition professionals that provides bi-monthly newsletters and continuing education opportunities to help you keep a pulse on food and nutrition news. They provide access to exclusive leadership training and special events tailored to fostering your professional and personal growth and elevating your voice as a health professional, consulting and partnership opportunities, and chances to connect with cross cultural and like minded dietitians working in these spaces. The free Eat Well Connect platform was founded by Eat Well Global, a communication consultant agency on a mission to empower global change agents in food and nutrition.

To join the free Eat Well Connect platform and community go to eatwellconnect.com. To join the free Eat Well Connect platform and community go to eatwellconnect.com.

To learn more about how Eat Well Connect can support you as an agent of nutrition change, register for our free Q + A with Eat Well Connect founder Juilie Meyer, in early February. Subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter to learn more.

Resources mentioned:

Register for the 2021 WIND Spring Symposium!
Join us on instagram at @weightinclusivenutrition
WIND Facebook group
McKensie Mack Group

Where to find Alissa:

Instagram: @alissarumseyrd

Website: https://alissarumsey.com/

Pre-order Unapologetic Eating: Make Peace with Food and Transform Your Life

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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This is the first in the RD Real Talk “Anti-Diet Supervision” series! Tabitha Fithian, a graduate student at Virginia Tech, and RD2Be, joins us to get some supervision...about supervision. She asks questions about how to start thinking about supervision, how to begin to understand our own personal biases as we begin this work, and more!

This episode is sponsored by Eat Well Connect! This past fall Eat Well Connect launched its own podcast series which shines a spotlight on members of its stellar community representing unique areas of expertise and diverse regions of the world.

The first interview features Shahzadi Devje, a registered dietitian, media expert and founder of Desi~licious RD Inc who is based in Toronto, Canada. And the most recent interview, released just before the end of 2020, features Ashley Carter and Jasmine Westbrooks, both registered dietitians and Directors of EatWell Exchange, Inc.

To tune into more compelling conversations with the great guests Eat Well Connect has lined up for 2021, visit eatwellconnect.com and fill out the join form today for this free network!

To join the free Eat Well Connect platform and community go to eatwellconnect.com.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course: Register Here!
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Mentoring services

Where to find Tabi:

Instagram: @tabithaf_rd2be

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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Tina Laboy joins us on the show today from Austin, TX. She holds many certifications—RD, LD, CEDRD-S, CPT—and is the owner of her group practice, TLB Nutrition Therapy, which is what we’re talking about today! On this episode Tina and I chat about all the nitty gritty details of how she built a group practice (a great feat), what she started with, how she found practitioners to hire, and all the lessons learned along the way.

This episode is sponsored by Eat Well Connect! Eat Well Connect is a free platform for nutrition professionals that provides bi-monthly newsletters and continuing education opportunities to help you keep a pulse on food and nutrition news. They provide access to exclusive leadership training and special events tailored to fostering your professional and personal growth and elevating your voice as a health professional, consulting and partnership opportunities, and chances to connect with cross-cultural and like-minded dietitians working in these spaces. The free Eat Well Connect platform was founded by Eat Well Global, a communication consultant agency on a mission to empower global change agents in food and nutrition.

To join the free Eat Well Connect platform and community go to eatwellconnect.com.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course: Register Here!
Anti-Diet RD Group Supervision only: Come join us!
Mentoring services

Where to find Tina:

Instagram: @tlbnutritiontherapy

Podcast: Mom Genes The Podcast

Podcast Instagram: @momgenesthepodcast

Texas Eating Disorder Dietitians: texaseatingdisorderdietitians@gmail.com

Website: tlbnutritiontherapy.com

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On today’s episode we are talking about taking your business from Part-Time to Full-Time, a BIG goal that many of you shared with me via an IG poll recently. This episode is all about how to build your business foundation, tangible things that will actually help you grow, and how to set some “Imaginable but Feels Unattainable” goals (big shout out to Christine Dyan’s recent episode on Make More Money as a Dietitian podcast). And yes, this episode is for you if you are even THINKING about starting a business, but haven’t done it yet.

This episode is sponsored by Morgan Sinclair Designs (MSD)! MSD is a design studio and education platform for weight inclusive business owners wanting to learn more about and wanting to have more professional support with all things branding, marketing, and web design. Morgan currently offers one-on-one design work with clinicians and has a self paced course, “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy.” Use code RDREALTALK for $100 off “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy” course and check out Morgan’s FREE downloads on how to create an impressionable Instagram and how to identify your Ideal Client here.

BONUS: Join Morgan and me (Heather) for a FREE Q&A about all things branding, marketing, and web design for your weight-inclusive business (or side hustle!). REGISTER HERE.

Things mentioned:

Episode 72 on Make More Money as a Dietitian podcast with Christine Dyan
Episode 132 with Alissa Rumsey MS RD on building your mastermind RD community
WIND Facebook group
The Unconventional RD Website
More info on the WIND 2021 Spring Symposium

Register for the next Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course — we’ll kick things off in March 2021!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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In this episode you’ll get three tips on staying in this anti-diet work for the long run. Because it can feel like a long process, and there is no destination! So much of this work can be fatiguing, frustrating, challenging...and of course, so rewarding, and so necessary. We’re going against the status quo, and that alone can feel like a struggle. Hopefully these tips help you feel supported, connected, and excited to keep learning!

This episode is sponsored by Morgan Sinclair Designs (MSD)! MSD is a design studio and education platform for weight inclusive business owners wanting to learn more about and wanting to have more professional support with all things branding, marketing, and web design. Morgan currently offers one-on-one design work with clinicians and has a self paced course, “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy.” Use code RDREALTALK for $100 off “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy” course and check out Morgan’s FREE downloads on how to create an impressionable Instagram and how to identify your Ideal Client here.

Resources mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course: Register Here!
Mentoring services
Episode 132 with Alissa Rumsey MS RD on building your mastermind RD community
WIND Facebook group

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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REPLAY: A favorite episode from this year, The psychology of intuitive eating with Elyse Resch MS RDN CEDRD-S.

Intuitive Eating Series Intro! Elyse Resch, MS CEDRD-S, is one of the co-authors of the book, Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Anti-Diet Approach. This is the 4th edition of the book, co-written with registered dietitian Evelyn Tribole. This non-diet approach to nutrition therapy and counseling has changed the way many dietitians practice now, giving us a language for effective nutrition work that provides an antidote to diet culture.

In this episode—an intro to the NEW RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating podcast series!—Elyse provides us with a foundation for the psychology of the Intuitive Eating approach. We review the "three brains" and how they all impact our behaviors, and survival instincts. And of course, she shares some real talk about how the approach has evolved over the years.

Questions or thoughts about this episode? The RD Real Talk pop-up Facebook community is closed now, but you can still get the weekly newsletter!

More about Elyse and her work: elyseresch.com, and follow Elyse on Instagram, @ElyseResch

Thanks to our episode partner, Alissa Rumsey, and her Nutrition Entrepreneur Starter Kit! If you're starting a business, or new to private practice, this Starter Kit provides templates for any form you might need. Download anything from practice policies to sample superbills and email marketing campaigns! Use code REALTALK for 15% off!

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com
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More about the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating podcast series & resources: http://heathercaplan.com/intuitive-eating-podcast/

Today on the podcast you’ll hear the audio from the recent WIND webinar with Jessica Jones MS, RD, CDCES, co-founder of Food Heaven. This episode covers the origin story of Food Heaven, how Jess transitioned her practice into weight inclusive approaches, and how that translated to the brands Food Heaven, and what Jess and Wendy cover on the Food Heaven podcast. And at the end you’ll hear some listener questions on all things weight inclusive business and private practice!

This episode is sponsored by Morgan Sinclair Designs! Morgan Sinclair is a registered dietitian turned brand strategist and web designer. Morgan Sinclair Designs is a design studio and education platform for weight inclusive business owners wanting to learn more about and wanting to have more professional support with all things branding, marketing, and web design. Morgan currently offers one-on-one design work with clinicians and has a self paced course, “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy.” Use code RDREALTALK for $100 off “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy” course and check out Morgan’s FREE download “Impressionable Instagram,” here. From those who want DIY and need a one stop shop for tutorials all the way to business owners who have a full brand and want a web design experience, Morgan is your person.

Resources Mentioned:

Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course: Register Here!
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics Facebook Group
American Pecan Council Website
Food Heaven Website: Food Heaven Made Easy
Food heaven Instagram: @foodheaven
The Food Heaven Podcast: https://foodheavenmadeeasy.com/podcast/
Un-Splash: https://unsplash.com/
Smashing The Wellness Industry Article
Jess' post on book starter kit (Instagram)
The Unbearable Whiteness and Fatphobia of “Anti-Diet” Dietitians

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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Mckenzie Caldwell MPH, RDN joins us on the show today. She is a Charlotte, NC-based dietitian and owner of the private practice Feed Your Zest Nutrition and Wellness. On this episode we talk about how Mckenzie decided to focus on weight neutral care to birthing parents along the spectrum of trying to conceive, fertility, pregnancy, complications with pregnancy, and the postpartum phase. We also touch on why weight inclusive care is so needed and important in these spaces.

This episode is sponsored by Morgan Sinclair Designs! Morgan Sinclair is a registered dietitian turned brand strategist and web designer. Morgan Sinclair Designs is a design studio and education platform for weight inclusive business owners wanting to learn more about and wanting to have more professional support with all things branding, marketing, and web design. Morgan currently offers one-on-one design work with clinicians and has a self paced course, “The Weight Inclusive Business Academy”. From those who want DIY and need a one stop shop for tutorials all the way to business owners who have a full brand and want a web design experience, Morgan is your person. Check out Morgan’s FREE download, “Impressionable Instagram,” at morgansinclairdesigns.com/rdrealtalk.

Resources mentioned:

WIND Webinar with Christy Harrison on Getting Your Anti-Diet Message Into The Media: Register Here! (12/14)
Fund The Future campaign by Diversify Dietetics
Find Mckenzie’s RD2RD.com marketplace here.

On rd2rd.com, Use code REALTALK20 for 20% off any purchase at checkout, through 12/31/2020.

Where to find Mckenzie:

Instagram: @womens.health.dietitian

Twitter: @feedyourzest

Website: https://www.feedyourzest.com

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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Clara Nosek, MS RD, joins this episode to talk about all things parenting, working, and finding what works for you. Clara is an anti-diet dietitian, with a mission to inspire reconnection with the body through decolonized health and redefined beauty standards. You may know Clara as @yourdietitanbff on Instagram, where she’s the queen of memes related to dietetics and diet culture within the profession. On this episode we talk about the different ways that the two of us have built our businesses and structured our work hours around parenting our small humans. We get real about the different ways we have approached this stage of our life plus our career, what has worked for us, what we’ve learned about ourselves along the way, and how we’ve each done things really differently (and that’s okay!).

Resources mentioned:

WIND Webinar with Jessica Jones on Evolving Your Weight-Inclusive Message and Brand: Register Here!
WIND Webinar with Christy Harrison on Getting Your Anti-Diet Message Into The Media: Register Here!
Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision Course: Register Here!
Support the show & access Q&A episodes: Patreon.com/RDRealTalk

On rd2rd.com, Use code REALTALK20 for 20% off any purchase at checkout, through 12/31/2020.

Where to find Clara:

Instagram: @yourdietitianbff

TikTok: @yourdietitianbff

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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It's not easy being "new" in the Anti-Diet, Weight-Inclusive spaces, but we've all been there at some point! This episode provides my 4 tips for RDs and RDs2Be who feel new to this work, and maybe a little stuck. Yes, I've been there, too!

These tips represent an outline for my NEW Anti-Diet RD Support and Supervision course!

Registration is open NOW, with discounted rates.

CLICK HERE to join.

The course launches with our inaugural cohort in January 2021. It will be an online self-paced course (lifetime access!) and weekly group supervision calls, to provide support and a brave space to explore these topics.

A FREE way to keep learning: Join us in the WIND Facebook Group.

Support the show: Join us on Patreon.com/RDRealTalk (and get some free resources there, too!)

Reach out anytime with feedback, questions, or just to say hi: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

Subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter here.

And check out HeatherCaplan.com to learn more about my work, and how to work with me.

Rachael Hartley is a private practice dietitian and author of the upcoming book, Gentle Nutrition. In this episode we are talking about her new book, coming to the world on February 23, 2021! We also talk about what might happen when we talk about gentle nutrition first, how this concept is the foundation for non-diet work, and also how hard this topic can be because of diet culture’s influence. Rachael also penned a nutrition hierarchy of needs—a new tool in your non-diet toolbox—and talks about the power of small changes as opposed to diet cultures promises. AND the book provides 50 recipes, so you basically get two-for-one!

This episode is sponsored by RD2RD.com, the first online marketplace by and for registered dietitians! Check out rd2rd.com/rdrealtalk to browse the Intuitive Eating and Gentle Nutrition Resource Hub, to find forms, handouts, and continuing education for your anti-diet practice. Use code REALTALK20 for 20% off any purchase at checkout (through 12/31/2020). And set yourself up as a vendor to start providing your go-to handouts and tips to fellow non-diet practitioners!

Resources mentioned:

Patreon.com/RDRealTalk (a new Q&A episode was posted this week!)
Chrissy King: http://chrissyking.com/
Christyna Johnson: @encouragingdietitian
Monique Melton: @moemotivate
RD2RD.com/RDRealTalk

Where to find Rachael:

Website: https://www.rachaelhartleynutrition.com/

Instagram: @rachaelhartleyrd

Twitter: @RHartleyRD

Her book, Gentle Nutrition: A Non-Diet Approach to Healthy Eating

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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Sherene Chou is a plant-based dietitian focused on creating a more equitable and sustainable food system. On today’s episode we talk about Sherene’s career change from tech to dietetics, her activism work’s roots, the Academy-approved #dietitiansforblm campaign, how to start in activism and policy work, and enacting change from within.

This episode is sponsored by RD2RD.com, the first online marketplace by and for registered dietitians.Check out rd2rd.com/rdrealtalk to browse the Intuitive Eating and Gentle Nutrition Resource Hub, to find forms, handouts, and continuing education for your anti-diet practice. Use code REALTALK20 for 20% off any purchase at checkout (through 12/31/2020).

Resources mentioned:

My RD2RD vendor page: https://rd2rd.com/vendor/heatherdcrd/
Support the show Patreon.com/RDRealTalk
Find out more about your state local dietetic organization here! (#changefromwithin)
The National Organization of Blacks in Dietetics and Nutrition Instagram: @nobidan_mig

Where to find Sherene:

Instagram: @eatsustainablefoods

Twitter: @sherenechou

Sherene’s website is here. Food + Planet website is here.

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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Katherine Metzelaar, fellow anti-dietitian joins us on the show today to talk about all things Emotional Eating. Because we’d love to totally rethink and redefine “emotional eating”, as we work on reclaiming the phrase from diet culture. We also discuss the difference between holding a brave versus safe space, and how that shows up in this anti diet, full-of-emotions, work.

This episode is sponsored by RD2RD.com, the first online marketplace by and for registered dietitians.Check out rd2rd.com/rdrealtalk to browse the Intuitive Eating and Gentle Nutrition Resource Hub, to find forms, handouts, and continuing education for your anti-diet practice. Use code REALTALK20 for 20% off any purchase at checkout (through 12/31/2020).

Resources mentioned:

Patreon.com/RDRealTalk
Check out @laurenleavellfitness's new membership site
The Reduce-Guilt Trader Joe’s Rant
Mickey Scott Bay Jones’ poem on Brave Spaces
Weight Inclusive Nutrition events and spaces

Where to find Katherine:

Instagram: @bravespacenutrition

Website: www.bravespacenutrition.com for nutrition counseling and business coaching

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

@RDRealTalk (IG), @heatherDCRD (Twitter)

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This is a solo real talk episode, laying out the many ways in which "weight management" is an expression of weight stigma. This one may feel a little uncomfortable, but discomfort is often part of growth and change. I'm here for it. (And I was there with you, a few years ago!)

Thank you to Jennifer McGurk's Pursuing Private Practice resources for sponsoring this episode! Check out her FREE Dietitian Business Roadmap and FREE Marketing Challenge at PursuingPrivatePractice.com/RDRealTalk

Use code RDREALTALK to get $100 off her PPP Beginner Basics course at PursuingPrivatePractice.com.

If you want to join the RD Real Talk Patreon and support the show's mission, you can do so at Patreon.com/RDRealTalk.

Things mentioned in the show:

This Instagram post
Why the 3500-calorie rule is antiquated and wrong (CW: some weight-centric language)
The AMA's decision to pathologize "obesity"
Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics (WIND) Facebook group for practitioners
WIND Courses
@BodyImageWithBri

If you want to learn more about my work, or how to work with me (career coaching, 1:1 nutrition coaching, mentorship, etc.) go to HeatherCaplan.com, or follow along on Instagram @RDRealTalk.

Questions, comments, respectful feedback: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Dawn Anderson, RD2Be, career-changer, weight-inclusive practitioner, and trained culinary professional, joins us to talk about a lot of things. We discuss life as a dietetic intern during a global pandemic, the challenges of changing careers and pursuing dietetics (i.e. the ways in which this system is designed with many gates), and her experiences learning more about weight-inclusive practices along the way.

This episode is sponsored by Pursuing Private Practice Beginner Basics, and Dietitian Business School! Find these courses, and some FREE resources, on PursuingPrivatePractice.com/RDRealTalk. Take $100 of the PPP course with code RDREALTALK at checkout.

Follow Dawn and her work on Instagram, @the_BlackRadish .

Your host: Heather Caplan RD, @RDRealTalk (IG)

Join the RD Real Talk newsletter at HeatherCaplan.com

Resources mentioned:

Patreon.com/RDRealTalk to support the show!
Diversify Dietetics!
RD2RD.com -- vendor sale coming soon!

Whitney Trotter RN RD is here to talk about the ways we must start revolutionizing eating disorder care, to do no harm when caring for marginalized identities. Whitney is both a registered nurse and registered dietitian, an anti-diet practitioner, and an advocate for social justice reform in eating disorder treatment. We talk about how her work has evolved, how traditional and standard ED treatment norms fall short, how we can foster confidence with flexible eating, and how cultural cuisine shouldn’t be a special ‘challenge’ meal. We also get real about how we can avoid putting “anti-diet” care in a close-minded box.

Follow and support Whitney’s work via Instagram @Bluff_CityHealth.
If you want to thank Whitney for her work, her Venmo is @BluffCityRd.

If you want to work with Whitney, send her an email at BluffCityRD at gmail.com

Jump start your business-starting homework with the free resources and invaluable courses at PursuingPrivatePractice.com/RDRealTalk. The RD Real Talk podcast partnership with Pursuing Private Practice gives you, listener, $100 off your Pursuing Private Practice Beginner Basics course. Use code RDREALTALK at checkout.

Subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter at heathercaplan.com .

Your host, Heather Caplan RD, can be found @RDRealTalk on Instagram and @heatherDCRD on Twitter.

Send us a note anytime, or come support the show on Patreon.com/RDRealTalk.

Sammy Previte is an anti-diet dietitian and co-owner of the private practice, Find Food Freedom™️. Sammy believes that all humans deserve fair, unbiased health care regardless of the size of their body. On this episode Sammy gives you the real talk on lessons learned as a thin/white dietitian, setting social media boundaries, building a private practice, bringing anti-diet messaging the wild world of TikTok, and more.

This episode is sponsored by Jennifer McGurk's Dietitians Business School and Pursuing Private Practice resources. Pursuing Private Practice now offers a Beginner Basics Course, and is about to launch a 3 New Clients in One Week challenge, starting October 6th! For more info, and to download the FREE Dietitian Business Plan Roadmap, visit pursuingprivatepractice.com/rdrealtalk.

Resources mentioned:

TEDD-WIND Virtual Inclusivity Conference: weightinclusivenutrition.com/events

Support the show: Patreon.com/RDRealTalk

RDRT Diversify Dietetics fundraiser -- help us raise 2,020 by the end of 2020!

BIPOC resource to follow and support, Tiffany Ima: @tiffanyima

Where to find Sammy:

Instagram: @find.food.freedom
TikTok: @findfoodfreedom
Facebook: foodfreedomfamily.com
Podcast: Drunk Dietitians Podcast

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD

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Glenys Oyston RD, co-host of the popular podcast Dietitians Unplugged and author on DareNotToDiet.com, joins us for a fun and feisty conversation. She gets real about her reaction when clients say, “But my doctor told me to lose weight!” and stays candid about the ways she brings weight loss desires and goals into her client conversations. We talk about how she came to specialize in weight-inclusive care for both Binge Eating Disorder and diabetes care, and of course, had to do a little behind-the-scenes talk about her podcast.

This episode is sponsored by Jennifer McGurk's Dietitians Business School and Pursuing Private Practice resources. Get your FREE Dietitian Business Plan Roadmap here: pursuingprivatepractice.com/rdrealtalk

Resources mentioned:

Patreon.com/RDRealTalk
RDRT Diversify Dietetics fundraiser -- help us raise 2,020 by the end of 2020!
Rosie Mensah’s CEDAR course for dietitians -- starting October 4th!
DareNottoDiet.com
WIND Facebook Group for RDs and RD2Be
Binge Eating Disorder: The Journey to Recovery and Beyond by Amy Pershing and Chevise Turner
Dietitians Unplugged podcast
Dare to Not Diet Facebook group

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

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Abby Chan MS RD is a fellow sports nutrition enthusiast, bringing anti-diet work to both dietetics and the fitness industry. In fact, she built her own body-inclusive fitness space with her spouse, focused on reducing body and weight stigma while helping folks move in ways they want to. Abby holds nothing back when she talks about how the fitness industry "cheapens their trade" by perpetuating weight stigma and focusing so intently on healthism.

Come for this body-inclusive real talk, and stay for an insight into Abby's experiences as a dietitian, fitness pro, and Chinese-American.

Resources mentioned:

Abby Chan MS RD
Diversify Dietetcs & the RDRT Fundraiser
Evolve Flagstaff (@evolveFLG)
Lane 9 Project
Fit Fueling (online course for sports nutrition and intuitive eating)
"Girls Running" book by Elizabeth Carey and Melody Fairchild
RD Real Talk Patreon

Questions, comments, respectful feedback: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

If you want to join the RD Real Talk Patreon and support the show's mission, you can do so at Patreon.com/RDRealTalk.

The first real talk in real time episode of 2020! Welcome to the chaos. CW: Mention of eating disorders and levels of treatment.

In this short n' sweet chat, I'm elaborating on Eating Disorder (ED) treatment, and how someone might need another round. Many folks I've worked with and met over the years have had an experience with treatment in the past, but life happens (i.e. trauma, weight stigma, pandemics, grief, big changes, etc.) and they might be a candidate for structured treatment again, before continuing with outpatient care. If you're working with clients, it's important to know this, to be familiar with the ED treatment acronym alphabet, and to remember how much support folks might need as they step into outpatient care.

Shout-outs!

Monique Melton, aka @MoeMotivate on IG, has a new class offering—White Fears, Pay-what-you-can class, on September 15th. Register here!
And if you support and learn from Monique's work, join me as a Patreon for season 2 of her podcast, Shine Brighter Together.
Whitney Trotter, anti-diet dietitian and registered nurse, provides ED support resources for BIPOC women. Check out her virtual support groups and other services here!

And the Instagram post that prompted this deeper dive into a topic that likely affects the clients you're working with, especially now.

Questions, comments, respectful feedback: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

That's all for this short episode! If you want to join the RD Real Talk Patreon and support the show's mission, you can do so at Patreon.com/RDRealTalk.

We're back! I'm back. The mic has been dusted off. It feels good to be talking to you again. And, since we last talked, things have changed. So, let's start there.

This episode dives into three major changes you can expect from RD Real Talk in the coming weeks and months, and we'll see how it goes.

1) More real talk about current events!

2) Co-hosts that help me address listener questions. Have a question to submit? Email me! (See below.)

3) Payment for these co-hosts, along an equity model to adequately compensate BIPOC folks and marginalized identities. We're starting with help from you, and partnerships I'm exploring, to make the show a more sustainable business.

If you feel so inclined, and have learned something from the show, please contribute to the equity fund here: Patreon.com/RDRealTalk

Questions comments concerns or call-ins? RDRealTalk at gmail.com . Keep it real and respectful, please!

Instagram: @RDrealTalk

Thanks for listening. Stay tuned for more...

Gina Mateer, RD CEDRD, and Heather are teaming up (along with Tina Laboy) to bring the TEDD-WIND Inclusivity Conference to life this Fall (2020). On this episode, they talk about Gina's introduction to non-diet and weight-inclusive care through Eating Disorder counseling, and how Texas Eating Disorder Dietitians (TEDD) was formed. They share some real talk about event planning, and not having all the answers.

2020 TEDD-WIND Virtual Inclusivity Conference: Subscribe here for event updates & early registration notices!

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Gina & her work: @nom_nomaste.llc

Nom-Nomaste.com

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Amee Severson RD helps us bring this series to a close as we finally talk about the very nuanced principle, gentle nutrition. This principle is how it all comes together, though it’s not seen as often on Instagram and the like. We dive into what “gentle nutrition” means, who it’s accessible for (or not accessible for), and how nutrition isn’t always the most important thing ever. Thanks for listening!

Watch & Learn More: RD Real Talk Non-Diet Basics for Nutrition Counseling & Communications -- Webinar by Heather Caplan RD

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Amee and her work: her website, on Instagram, @amee_rd, and @AmeeSeverson on Twitter!

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More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Kara Bazzi, LMFT and co-founder of Opal Food and Body Treatment Center in Seattle, WA, joins us for a discussion about intuitive movement. There's a lot to learn about what needs are met through movement, exercise, and sport. And, how we can learn how to meet those needs in other ways.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Find out more about Kara's work at Opal Food and Body by listening to their podcast, The Appetite, or following @opalfoodandbody

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 8. Fat-Positive Counselor Dr. Maria Paredes joins us to talk about a key component to rejecting diet culture: respecting your body. This principle of intuitive eating brings it all together, as a reminder that learning to truly honor our body’s physical and emotional needs may feel like a radical act in today’s culture. As Evelyn Tribole succinctly puts this principle: “Accept your genetic blueprint.” Though, we know, on some days that’s far easier said than done.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Dr. Paredes and her work: threebirdscounseling.com and on Instagram, @with_this_body

ORDER your copy: Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

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More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Psychologist Dr. Rachel Millner, CEDS-S Psy.D, joins us to talk through emotional eating, and other coping strategies we can implement with kindness. This conversation, and principle, may feel especially relevant now (2020). We are all coping with major changes to our perceived “norm”; financial, emotional, physical, and other struggles; and a sense of normalcy in the world around us.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Dr. Millner and her work: rachelmillnertherapy.com and on Instagram, @DrRachelMillner

ORDER your copy: Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

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More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 6. Ayana Habtemariam, MSW RD, joins us to talk about the nuances of fullness, and how we feel it, or try to avoid, it. Fullness often isn’t easy to describe, and diet culture messages teach us to fear it, as a sign we have had “too much”. There’s internalized (and normalized) fat phobia in that mindset, which we have to challenge. There’s also a lesson that if we feel full, we’ve eaten beyond our needs, when in reality, we’re meeting them.

So, yah, let’s dive into this fullness thing.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Ayana and her work: trulyrealnutrition.com and on Instagram, @TheTrillRD

Order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

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More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 5. Kathleen Meehan, MS RD, joins us to talk about why Satisfaction is considered the Hub of intuitive eating. It's not just a feeling of fullness, or a satisfied craving, it's much more than that. It's honoring hunger, feeling fullness, knowing all foods can fit, and re-learning how to satisfy our own unique needs.

This Satisfaction thing extends beyond food, by the way.

WIND Ethics Webinar on Teachable: https://weightinclusivenutrition.teachable.com/p/wind-ethics

Monthly webinar with Christyna Johnson: https://hdcrd.typeform.com/to/i3VsQz?src=pod Amplify Melanated Voices: https://www.instagram.com/p/CAxYJPllm8h/ Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Kathleen and her work: kathleenmeehanrd.com and on Instagram, @theRDnutritionist.

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Marci Evans MS CEDRD-S, and her online training institute for dietitians! Enter to win one of Marci’s valuable resources—Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorders, Body Image Counseling for Dietitians, or an hour of supervision with Marci—by entering your name and email on MarciRD.com/RDRealTalk. Winners will be announced in June!

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 4. Christyna Johnson, MS RD, host of “Intuitive Eating for the Culture” podcast, joins us to talk about how to challenge, and fire, your inner Food Police. It’s a important step in getting back to eating intuitively, akin to the diet mentality.

Who are these “Food Police”? In the Intuitive Eating book, the Food Police are thoughts that control and manipulate our food choices, often (if not always) overriding our intuition and interoceptive awareness. Essentially, they rob us of autonomy around food, and police our every meal and morsel.

So, let’s get to firing those Food Police.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Christyna and her work: encouragingdietitian.com and @encouragingdietitian on Instagram.

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Marci Evans MS CEDRD-S, and her online training institute for dietitians! Enter to win one of Marci’s valuable resources—Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorders, Body Image Counseling for Dietitians, or an hour of supervision with Marci—by entering your name and email on MarciRD.com/RDRealTalk. Winners will be announced in June!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 3. Taylor Chan, MS RD, best known as @foodandfearless on Instagram, joins us to talk about ending the war on foods, and making peace with our food choices and preferences. This is the principle where people get hung up on the “eat whatever you want” semi-myth, and we do our best to dispel that, but also support it. It’s nuanced, and also comes with a big dose of privilege and food accessibility. We hope this conversation helps you (and your clients) navigate making peace with food.

An article that may help: “If you eat whatever you want—what if all you want is ice cream?” on EatingWell.com

And remember, what you eat doesn’t change who you are.

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Follow Taylor and her work: foodandfearless.com and @FoodandFearless on Instagram.

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Marci Evans MS CEDRD-S, and her online training institute for dietitians! Enter to win one of Marci’s valuable resources—Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorders, Body Image Counseling for Dietitians, or an hour of supervision with Marci—by entering your name and email on MarciRD.com/RDRealTalk. Winners will be announced in June!

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources: http://heathercaplan.com/intuitive-eating-podcast/

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 2. Josée Sovinsky, RD and therapist-in-training, joins us to talk about why it may feel so complicated, and challenging, to really honor and trust our hunger. Intuitive Eating (IE) is often simplified down to “The Hunger and Fullness Diet”, but there’s far more to this non-diet approach than simply “eat when you’re hungry!” Even when we focus on hunger, there are various types of hunger, both physical and psychological hunger cues, and reasons for which we might eat even if we aren’t hungry in that exact moment. We hope this conversation helps you navigate the nuances of your own hunger cues and your body’s needs, especially during times of change, uncertainty, stress, and rest.

For reading: “I don’t have to be happy with my body 100% of the time, but I can still feed it.”

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Josée and her work: joseesovinskynutrition.com , and on Instagram @joséesovinskyrd.

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Marci Evans MS CEDRD-S, and her online training institute for dietitians! Enter to win one of Marci’s valuable resources—Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorders, Body Image Counseling for Dietitians, or an hour of supervision with Marci—by entering your name and email on MarciRD.com/RDRealTalk. Winners will be announced in June!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources: http://heathercaplan.com/intuitive-eating-podcast/

Intuitive Eating Series, Principle 1. Shana Spence, MS RD, joins us to talk through the realities of ditching a diet mentality, and seeing diet culture’s true colors. We talk about what, exactly, a “diet mentality” is, and why most of us have had one at some point. It’s a normalized behavioral pattern, however disordered and unsustainable it may be. We also discuss the stress of dieting, and how intentional weight loss may be more health-harming than health-promoting.

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Follow Shana and her work: thenutritiontea.com/about and @TheNutritionTea on Instagram.

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the book’s 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Marci Evans MS CEDRD-S, and her online training institute for dietitians! Enter to win one of Marci’s valuable resources—Nutrition Counseling for Eating Disorders, Body Image Counseling for Dietitians, or an hour of supervision with Marci—by entering your name and email on MarciRD.com/RDRealTalk. Winners will be announced in June!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources: http://heathercaplan.com/intuitive-eating-podcast/

Intuitive Eating Series Intro! Elyse Resch, MS CEDRD-S, is one of the co-authors of the book, Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Anti-Diet Approach. This is the 4th edition of the book, written with Evelyn Tribole. This non-diet approach to nutrition therapy and counseling has changed the way many dietitians practice now, giving us a language for effective nutrition work that provides an antidote to diet culture.

In this episode—an intro to the NEW RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating podcast series!—Elyse provides us with a foundation for the psychology of the Intuitive Eating approach. We review the "three brains" and how they all impact our behaviors, and survival instincts. And of course, she shares some real talk about how the approach has evolved over the years.

Questions or thoughts about this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

More about Elyse and her work: elyseresch.com, and follow Elyse on Instagram, @ElyseResch

Pre-order your copy of Intuitive Eating, the 4th Edition!

Thanks to our episode partner, Alissa Rumsey, and her Nutrition Entrepreneur Starter Kit! If you're starting a business, or new to private practice, this Starter Kit provides templates for any form you might need. Download anything from practice policies to sample superbills and email marketing campaigns! Use code REALTALK for 15% off!

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Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com
@RDRealTalk (IG)

More about the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating podcast series & resources: http://heathercaplan.com/intuitive-eating-podcast/

The prequel to the New RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series, where we talk about what Intuitive Eating really is (and isn't), and how to use these principles during a global pandemic, like COVID-19.

What is Intuitive Eating (IE), anyway?

What myths do we need to bust about IE?

Some reading: When is it inappropriate to use Intuitive Eating? (Spoiler: Never.)

Is IE the same as Health at Every Size®?

Some reading: What is Health at Every Size® really about?

How do I know if I'm eating enough?
(Hint: It may feel like eating "too much".)

How do I know if I'm moving enough, or too much?

What do I do with this IE stuff during a global pandemic, like COVID-19? What does grief have to do with this?

Some reading: "That Discomfort You're Feeling Grief" on HBR

Interested in discussing your thoughts & questions from this episode? Join us in the new pop-up RD Real Talk Facebook group, and get the weekly newsletter!

Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

Leave a rating or review on Apple Podcasts!

Your Host: Heather Caplan RD | HeatherCaplan.com , @RDRealTalk (IG)

More about all of the above: RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating Series & Resources.

Watch the video version of this episode in our new RD Real Talk Facebook community! (The link to join is included in the RD Real Talk newsletter.)

My good RD friend, Cara Harbstreet, joined me for a reverse interview—asking about why I recorded another Intuitive Eating series, what to expect from it, and how we all—as humans and practitioners—grow and evolve. Cara and I talk about our own process of rejecting diet culture and challenging the norms within weight-centric care, while seeing the bigger picture of social justice issues along the way.

We recorded this as both an audio interview (here, for the podcast) and a video! If you want to watch us chat, join us here.

Things coming up!

Pop-Up RD Real Talk Facebook Community
NEW Intuitive Eating Series on the show!
WIND Peer Supervision Webinars
Weekly newsletters

Your hosts today: Cara Harbstreet, @StreetSmart.RD
Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Carolina (Carol) Guizar joins the show to talk about why diet culture sucks, and what it looks like in the Latinx community. She gets real about her lived experience as a Mexican-American, and a woman in this country, struggling with beauty "ideals", thin-privilege within her family culture, and efforts to fit in and avoid otherness. Recently, Carol has taken her work, and anti-diet message to the Instagram account, @la_eathority. Here, she shares "Intuitive eating+body peace for Latinxs".

Follow Carol @la_eathority, or reach out to work with her through LatinxHealthCollective.com.

Covid-19-related resources mentioned:

@Covid19eatingsupport (collaborative account led by HAES®-aligned providers)
Marci Evans and Fiona Sutherland addressing challenges for practitioners, on The Mindful Dietitian podcast
FREE WIND hangouts for RDs and RDs2Be (join us in the Facebook group for information)

And hey, it's OK if you're not getting ALL the things done right now. There's a pandemic happening. We're living through it. This is unprecedented for most, if not all, of us.

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Veronica Garnett MS RD joins the show to talk about the realities of her experiences as a fat, black dietitian. Veronica is a Health at Every Size® (HAES), fat-positive, and culinary dietitian and has worked with various vulnerable populations such as folks with food insecurity, substance abuse, and chronic conditions such as HIV/AIDS. We talked about what things aren’t often considered as we try to diversify the nutrition field, her career path, and how to be more culturally competent. Real talk: Veronica shares her own lived experiences with racism and oppression within dietetics. She almost let her credential lapse, but has stuck around to provide her voice and activism to our field.

Of note: We recorded this conversation prior to all the #Covid19 changes to US life, but included a note to address that in the beginning. Online Support for Covid-19: @Covid19EatingSupport, @MoeMotivate, and @ComamosJunxts

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Links Mentioned:

This month our WIND Peer Supervision webinar is brought to you by Veronica. Join with our Pay-what-you-can model: Register here!
Veronica's WIND Webinar on Culturally Sensitive Weight-Inclusive Practices
Privilege Walk Video
WIND webinars on Teachable!

Follow Veronica’s work:

Veronica’s Instagram: @veronicagarnett

Veronica’s Twitter: @veronicagarnett

Reclaiming our plate on Instagram: @reclaimingourplate (IG) & @reclaimingourplate (Twitter)

Diasporadical Kitchen on Instagram: @diasporadicalkitchen (IG) & @diasporakitchen (Twitter)

Black Adventuristas: @blackadventuristas (IG) & @BlkAdventurista (Twitter)

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Dr. Jeff Hunger joins the show to talk us through an evidence-based rationale for weight-inclusive healthcare. Jeff researches weight stigma, and how to improve the health of marginalized communities. He's the kind of person that can make this interesting to anyone, and is up for challenging the prevailing world views about weight and health.

Oh, and speaking of things going on in the world...

We briefly address what's happening with #COVID19 and the diet culture chaos that has ensued. More on that to come, but if you need support, don't hesitate to reach out.

More on that in the RD Real Talk from the newsletter, landing in your inbox a bit more frequently these days.

Fill out the RD Real Talk Listener Survey—what do you want more or less of from the show? Keep it real!

Other links mentioned:

JeffreyHunger.com
An Evidence-Based Rationale for Weight-Inclusive Healthcare Policy (Hunger, Smith, Tomiyama)
Tylka's Weight-Inclusive Vs. Weight-Normative Approach paper
Twitter: @DrHunger
IG: @DrHunger

Dr. Kendrin Sonneville's WIND Presentation:
A Research Review: Weight Stigma and Its Impact on Health and Healthcare

More Weight Inclusive Nutrition Continuing Ed: WIND on Teachable!

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Aaron Flores, fellow non-diet dietitian, joins the show to chat about why providers need support, and how he’s helping align a national eating disorder treatment center with Health at Every Size® practices. Aaron owns a private practice in Calabasas, California and also works as the HAES® director at the eating disorder treatment facility, Center for Discovery. In his own practice, he uses HAES® and Intuitive Eating practices to help clients find peace with their bodies and food. He is also a certified Body Trust® Provider and the co-host of the podcast, Dietitians Unplugged. Aaron shares about his personal journey in disordered eating and how that led him to the field. We also get real about how it is important it is for providers to get their own help when struggling and ways to normalize and embrace the need for personal help in the field.

Resources Mentioned:

2020 RD Real Talk anonymous listener survey. Tell us what you think!
How to Start Your Own Nutrition Podcast webinar on RD2RD Marketplace
RD-to-RD Support group: weightinclusivenutrition.com/support
Preorder the 4th edition of Intuitive Eating!
Aaron’s virtual support group with Dr. Rachel Milner: couldn’t find a link to this
Dietitians Unplugged Podcast

Follow Aaron’s work:

Aarons Website: smashtheweightriarchy.com
Instagram: @aaronfloresrdn
Twitter: @AaronFloresRDN
Podcast: Dietitians Unplugged

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Dalina Soto, aka @your.latina.nutritionist, joins the show to talk about how she's bringing intuitive eating to her Latina community. Dalina shares insight into her own food and diet culture experiences growing up, and how that translates to her work now. We also talk about how to be culturally sensitive to other cultures while providing non-diet and intuitive eating counseling. And, in the past year, she has started to identify as a weight-inclusive Health at Every Size®-aligned provider, so she shares what helped her make that shift.

Take our 2020 RD Real Talk Listener Survey (Anonymous)!

Follow Dalina's work:

NutritiouslyYoursLLC.com
@Your.Latina.Nutritionist (Instagram)

Join us for the next WIND Peer Supervision Call for only $10!

Resources for You:

Podcast Show Notes: WeightInclusiveNutrition.com/Podcast
Podcast Newsletter (monthly)
Peer Support Group for RDs!
Fit Fueling for Professionals Webinar

Your Host:

Heather Caplan RD: heathercaplan.com
@RDRealTalk (Instagram)
@HeatherDCRD (Twitter)

Thank you for listening! If you have questions or comments for the show, reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com.

Dawn Clifford Ph.D., RD, author of Motivational interviewing in Nutrition and Fitness, and associate professor at Northern Arizona University (NAU) joins us to talk about how she discovered a weight-inclusive approach and Health at Every Size®...and why she wasn't convinced right away. Now, Dawn is a refreshing agent of change in dietetics education, bringing HAES® and non-diet concepts to her students and peers. She directs a Future Education Model MPH program at NAU and loves to write and connect research on motivational interviewing and weight inclusive practices. In addition to sharing more about her work with students and fellow educators, we talk about how she navigates conversations on the topics of HAES® and Intuitive Eating with colleagues and how she’s committed to changing the future of dietetics and public health education.

Listener Question: Based on what I’ve heard, dietetics education is steeped in diet culture. Should I really pursue the RD credential if I align with Health At Every Size® and a non-diet approach? Is it worth it?

Resources Mentioned:

The 2020 RD Real Talk anonymous listener survey. Tell us what you think!
WIND Resources can be found here
The new WIND Facebook Page, sharing resources, articles, event updates, and more!
Preorder the 4th edition of Intuitive Eating!
Researcher Tracy Tylka’s paper on the weight inclusive versus weight normative approach
ASDAH webinar: When your client says, "But I want to lose weight!”
The HAES Curriculum resource.
Nourish Your Knowledge Facebook group, for RDs2Be.
RD Real Talk episode where I chat with Lauren Newman about challenging weight centric teaching, and the follow-up episode with her professor (at the time) Monica Milonovich.
HAES Dietetic Educators FB group
NAU MPH Program website

Follow Dawn’s work:

Dawn’s NAU Profile
Instagram: @Dawnthedietitan
Twitter: @DawnCliffordRD
Youtube Channel: Dawn Clifford's MI Tips
Book Website: Motivational Interviewing in Nutrition and Fitness

Colleges listed with HAES® incorporated into parts of the curriculum:

Northern Arizona University
Simmons College
California State University, Chico State
The MPH program at University of Michigan

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It’s just me, y’all! Heather Caplan here, your RD Real Talk host, getting real about some business updates, and personal reflections. What do I wish I had done differently ten years ago? Well, a few things, but first and foremost, I wish I hadn’t been so arrogant/naive. (A little bit of both, TBH.) I needed help. I wish I had asked for it.

Below you’ll find a long list of the things mentioned in today’s episode. But if you want to skip that and get right to it, as I always say, my inbox is always open: RDRealtalk at Gmail dot com.

In no particular order (because my notes are a bit scattered):

THE blog post: “I don’t want to be a dietitian anymore.”
The one with Alissa Rumsey, about building your Mastermind & peer supervision (episode 132)
The resource I’ve been using for over two years in my private practice:
Pursuing Private Practice For Intuitive Eating RDs! (affiliate link)
The 1:1 career coaching/mentoring I offer to fellow RDs and RDs-to-be.
The 2020 RD Real Talk anonymous listener survey. Get in there!
The NEW support group & resources for fellow RDs: Updates here!
The monthly peer supervision calls through WIND, featuring various experts on various topics.

And some places to get started with more resources and info on WIND and IE:

WIND Bookshelf
Tracy Tylka et al’s paper on the weight-inclusive approach
Jeffrey Hunger et al’s paper on an evidence-based rationale for weight-inclusive health policy
WIND Webinars for 3 CEUs

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Veronica Garnett MS RD and Alissa Rumsey MS RD joined me, Heather Caplan RD, for a “live” recording during the recent NYC WIND Workshop, to talk about their experience adapting to a HAES® and/or intuitive eating centered practice. The conversation explored how a weight inclusive approach works, utilization of supervision resources, and dismantling fat phobia in the dietetics space. We also open the floor for our WIND Workshop participants to ask questions, and talk about their own lived experiences and understanding of HAES®/non-diet-centered practices.

Support ASDAH and get involved: SizeDiversityandHealth.org

Interested in the RD Group Support to address internalized biases and anti-diet work? Apply for our test program here!

Wanting more from this WIND event? Our virtual registration (3 CEUs) is open through 2/29/2020): Click here!

Monthly Supervision webinars with WIND: Check out the next event here!

More about WIND, and upcoming events: WeightInclusiveNutrition.com

Veronica Garnett MS RD

VeronicaGarnett.com
@VeronicaGarnett (IG)
@VeronicaGarnett (Twitter)

Alissa Rumsey MS RD

AlissaRumsey.com
@AlissaRumseyRD (IG)
@AlissaRumseyRD (Twitter)

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Deanna Belleny, MPH, RDN joins the show to chat about how she is progressing the field of dietetics through her role in Diversify Dietetics and helping underserved communities. We talk about the lack of representation in our profession, the experiences of being a dietitian of color, and the importance of mentorship to increase diversity in this field. As a public health practitioner working to improve the healthcare space, she is utilizing her passion to make system level changes in the dietetics field. And of course, we chat about her “Sick of Diet Culture” bio blurb, because, we’re here for that.

Virtual NYC Workshop Registration (open through 2/29/2020): Click here!

Other resources mentioned:

@deanna.rdn (personal Instagram)
@diversifydietetics (Instagram)
Diversify Dietetics Page (Facebook)
Diversify Dietetics (LinkTree)
@diversifyrdn (Twitter)

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Kendrin Sonneville, ScD, RD, joins the show to chat about how weight stigma has impacted healthcare and dietetics. We talk about the lack of weight bias in research, the importance of size diversity, and progressing the field of dietetics to a more weight inclusive lens. Kendrin focuses her research on studying weight stigma as a predictor of poor health outcomes, so that we can begin to digest and dismantle fat phobia in healthcare settings. She’s also bringing this to her students and peers as an Assistant Professor at the University of Michigan’s School of Public Health. Check out her UofM bio here.

Want to learn more about the impact of weight stigma on healthcare practices, and access to respectful care? Check out Kendrin’s WIND webinar: Weight Stigma Research Review for dietitians and healthcare practitioners!

Virtual NYC Workshop Registration (open through Feb. 2020): Click here!

Other resources mentioned:

@kendrinrae (Twitter)
Check out one of her papers discussing the disparities in eating disorders diagnosis.

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Anna Sweeney MS CEDRD-S joins the show to talk about what it means to identify as anti-diet, or (vs.) non-diet, and how we are NOT against people who diet, or people who want to lose weight. This is a nuanced discussion between two passionate, real-talking dietitians, about the culture we live in, the norms we're trained to uphold in healthcare, and challenging all of the above.

Anna sees clients in-person at her practice, Whole Life Nutrition, in Concord, MA. And she speaks to all of us, with her anti-diet voice, on social media. @dietitiananna

2020 Listener Survey: Get in here! Dish out all your real talk.

Resources mentioned:

Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics NYC Workshop (Virtual Registration open!)
Anti-Diet Resources for RDs: RD Marketplace! RD2RD.com/vendor/heatherdcRD
For RDs: Taking the Non-Diet Approach to Your Nutrition Career (Webinar and Workbook)
"What is weight-inclusive nutrition and dietetics?"

More stuff:

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Alissa Rumsey MS RD, nutrition therapist and certified intuitive eating counselor, joins the show to chat about the challenges and victories that molded her business to what it is today. We talk about her RD Mastermind retreats, her budgeting journey, money goals and expectations of her private practice. Centering her business around intuitive eating and Health at Every Size® (HAES), we talk about how her philosophy has changed throughout the course of her business career and how it has influenced the community she works with, and the community she builds..

Resource mentioned (affiliate link): Jennifer McGurk's Pursuing Private Practice for Intuitive Eating (Non-Diet) RDs online course and accompanying group supervision and business coaching. I'm in there! Come join us!

Alissa is a featured speaker at our upcoming NYC WIND Workshop: Register for the virtual option to watch her presentation (anytime, from anywhere)!

Join Alissa for the 2020 RD Mastermind Retreats:

Aspiring Entrepreneurs -- April 3-5, 2020
Established Business Owners -- April 24-26, 2020

Other resources mentioned:

AlissaRumsey.com
@AlissaRumseyRD (IG)
Kelly Diels, Feminist Marketing Coach
Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics NYC Workshop

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @RDRealTalk.

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Marci Evans, MS CEDRD-S LD, comes back to RD Real Talk to chat with us about body image. This conversation pairs with episode 130, featuring Bri Campos LPC, to continue our understanding of, and scope of practice (as dietitians) with, body image healing. Marci also shares some business and life updates, including how she prepared, and set boundaries for, her maternity leave last year.

Marci puts out a call to action for all practitioners: We must do our own work, first. She provides some foundation for how to do that, along with ample resources for professionals who want to learn more about this topic.

Continue to learn about Body Image through our Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) workshops and webinars. More information here: weightinclusivenutrition.com/events

Resources mentioned:

WIND NYC Workshop (and virtual option): Register here!
“The Body Appreciation Scale” by Laura Avalos, Tracy Tylka and Nichole Wood-Barcalow
Dr. Daphne Lordly and her body image, and body perception, research
Food Psych episode with Kimmie Singh MS RD (214)
Marci's online trainings for professionals
Be Nourished Body Trust Provider Training
Book: Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach
Book: Self-Compassion by Kristen Neff
Book: Embody: Learning to Love Your Unique Body...by Connie Sobczak
Book: The Handbook of Positive Body Image and Embodiment by Niva Piran and Tracy Tylka
Book: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk
Additional resources we mention (books) are listed here: weightinclusivenutrition.com/books

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Bri Campos, aka @bodyimagewithbri (on Instagram), gives healthcare practitioners the real talk about body image. We talk about what body image is and isn't, her own body image process and how it influenced her work, and the influence of body image on our behaviors, lifestyle, and even career choices. We also dive into Attachment Theory, and how secure attachments might affect body image (among many other things).

Things we mention during the show:

WIND Webinar (for practitioners): How to handle body image conversations by Bri Campos LPC
Bri Campos LPC: lifepointscounseling.com
Contact Bri for info about her upcoming group coaching programs!
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics events: Bri is coming back to speak at our NYC Workshop in February 2020!
@bodyimagewithBri

Other stuff:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD & @RDRealTalk.

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Brenna O'Malley RD, aka @theWellful, joins us with some real talk about eating, and living, without a set of new diet rules. Brenna has a knack for meeting you where you are with an intuitive eating, non-diet message, through her social media and client work. She brings that compassion to this conversation with RD Real Talk listeners. For the RDs tuning in, this episode may help you navigate client sessions this month with All The Diet Talk.

Follow Brenna and The Wellful at @thewellful on Instagram, or on thewellful.com , where you can grab her free Mindful Eating & Satisfaction guide!

Other resources mentioned:

Non Diet Approach Webinar & Workbook
Anti-Diet Book by Christy Harrison MPH RD
RD Real Talk episode with Christy Harrison about her book, Anti-Diet
The Intuitive Eating book (and website)

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan RD: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Lisa Valente, MS RD, the Digital Nutrition and News Editor at EatingWell, joins us again on the show. Our first episode together aired in early 2017. When Lisa listened to it recently, she was surprised by how much her nutrition philosophy, and openness to the concepts of Intuitive Eating, had changed in just over two years. We talk about that process, and her thoughts about it! If you're feeling resistant to IE, or totally new to the ideas, I'm sure you'll relate to Lisa's experiences.

Things of interest:

"What is intuitive eating?" on EatingWell
"I tried Intuitive Eating for 2 weeks and here's what happened" on EatingWell.com
Lisa Valente MS RD on Twitter and Instagram (@LisaDValente)

For dietitians and practitioners: Check out the Non Diet Approach Webinar and extensive Workbook!

Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics (WIND) Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Christy Harrison MPH RD, Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and host of the podcast Food Psych, is back on the show, telling us All The Things about her forthcoming book, Anti-Diet (out 12/24!).

Tune in to get a glimpse behind-the-scenes (BTS) of her writing process, research, and publishing this counter-cultural book.

Christy shares about the pitching process, title ideas, her ideal audience, her inspiration, and nitty gritty things like how her team created a spreadsheet over three months (that makes me want to take a three month vacation)!

Pre-order her book here and follow Christy @chr1styharrison on Instagram.

Other stuff:

Your host: Heather Caplan, @RDRealTalk & @heatherdcRD

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Amy Hanneke RD, aka @SatisfyNutrition IG, has experienced some major career moves since we last talked. On her first episode of RD Real Talk (67: IE Stories in Clinical Nutrition), she was working in clinical nutrition and living in rural southern Idaho. She went on to leave her clinical post, set up a booming private practice in Denver, CO, and eventually decided to close up shop and move, again.

If you’re interested in setting up your own weight-inclusive, non-diet private practice, check out Pursuing Private Practice-Intuitive Eating, a robust course led by Jennifer McGurk. I (Heather) used it in setting up my own practice! This is an affiliate link.

We don’t hear much about the whole private practice, especially the nitty gritty of getting things set up, but more so the tough decision to leave the business world, and become an employee again. All of these choices are deeply personal, and Amy gets real about why this was right choice for her. She also takes us into the world of Satisfy Nutrition, sharing some behind-the-scenes info about her social media world.

Another essential resource to both mine and Amy’s private practice: SimplePractice.

SimplePractice is an Electronic Health Record for dietitians that provides flexible formatting for show notes, practice documents (templates for Release of Information, Policies, and billing), scheduling, and secure video conferencing!

This affiliate link for SimplePractice provides WIND RDs with a special deal: three months for the price of one!

Other Stuff:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Throughout the RD Real Talk podcast series on Health at Every Size®, listeners sent in questions about the concepts and principles of HAES, and how it applies to various situations (and individuals). Jess Campbell, also known as @HAES_StudentDoctor (on Instagram), joined me to discuss these questions, and various resources that may be helpful to you.

Content warning for this episode: We frequently used the words "overweight" and "obesity", only when referencing studies and texts and the weight-centric language in those papers.

Disclaimer: The answers provided to these questions are only intended to educate and inform. We do not intend to replace or replicate individual medical or medical nutrition therapy care.

Stay curious. Keep asking questions. We're here for it, and want this dialogue to continue. Without it, it's far too easy to dismiss paradigm shifts and stay comfortable doing the same thing. But weight-normative healthcare is harmful; fatphobia and weight stigma are harmful; we have to do better.

Resources for more information:

Books for further reading (including the book we mentioned, Harriett Brown's "Body of Truth")
"How Obesity Became a Disease" by Harriett Brown in The Atlantic
"Obesity and adverse breast cancer risk and outcome: Mechanistic insights and strategies for intervention" CW: stigmatizing language, weight-centric
"Obesity and Leptin Resistance: Distinguishing Cause from Effect" CW: stigmatizing language, weight-centric
Weight Neutral 4 Diabetes Care
Association for Size Diversity and Health (ASDAH)

Other Things:
Your host, Heather Caplan RD @RDRealTalk

Reach out anytime, RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com

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Tamara Melton, a passionate health informatics dietitian and Co-Founder and Executive Director of Diversity Dietetics (DD), joins me to chat about her career journey, and how DD came to be.

We talk about the genesis of Diversify Dietetics—when she had her “aha moment”, how she connected with Deanna Belleney, Co-Founder and Director of Programs, and insight into the (18-month long!!) nonprofit 501(c)3 process.

Go check out Diversify Dietetics on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter , and the Diversity Dietetics’ official website.

Consider donating to Diversify Dietetics’ Fund the Future Fundraiser campaign to help empower future underrepresented RD2Be’s with resources to join the next generation of nutrition experts. From their site, “Less than 10% of all practicing registered dietitians in the United States are People of Color.” ...let’s help change that!

If you cannot donate monetarily, consider ways you can make your work more inclusive and safe, and support the DD community. Also, share the fundraising page!

Other stuff:

Your host: Heather Caplan, @RDRealTalk & @heatherdcRD

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Cara Harbstreet, aka @StreetSmartRD, makes her third return to RD Real Talk with a behind-the-scenes look at HER business. I wanted to dive into this topic with Cara because she's an avid non-diet, weight-inclusive supporter—and is quite outspoken about it most of the time (which I love). But she isn't in private practice!

Cara takes us into the world of brand partnerships, sans private practice or nutrition counseling, and how to build a communications business with a non-diet approach.

Things we mention:

Cara on Twitter, and Instagram (@StreetSmart.RD)
Cara's blog, StreetSmartNutrition.com
Her "Healthy Eating for Life" Intuitive Eating workbook
Burnout, or how to do your best to avoid it
Why she has signed on as our unofficial OG WIND ambassador
Big things coming up (or back)!

If you're curious about weight-inclusive practices, download our free WIND guide here.

And hey, seriously, start YOUR nutrition podcast. This webinar is $15, and gives you ALL the basics.

More WIND Resources, here.

Your host: Heather Caplan, @RDRealTalk & @heatherdcRD

Just me this time! I'm taking you behind the scenes in this RD Real Talk, Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics world. This update includes some things that I've implemented recently that have made my business more sustainable and scalable (eventually), and made my life a little easier (although, sometimes stressful in their own right).

I also give some real-talk about things I've been working on!

The things:

RD Real Talk podcast HAES® series
RD2RD Vendor Page: RD Real Talk
About WIND (weightinclusivenutrition.com)
That trip we took with our toddler
Fit Fueling Course, 2.0 is here!
All the WIND webinars and resources
How to start YOUR nutrition podcast
My podcast editor: Liquid Sound Studios
Molly Bremer (aka @taco-bout-nutrition)
Working with Whitney Bateson for WIND marketing!
Help out DD: FundtheFutureofDD.org
Go! Pre-order the Anti-Diet book
Come hang with us in the WIND Community
Send me thoughts / questions! (RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com)

To my knowledge, this is the first ever FNCE podcast panel! Huge thanks to the panelists who joined me—fellow HAES®-aligned dietitians—Christy Harrison, Wendy Lopez and Jessica Jones, Julie Duffy Dillon, and Rebecca Scritchfield. The room was full of over 50 FNCE-attending dietitians who came to join us for the evening, and it felt amazing to have all that energy in one room.

We talk about:

why it's important to use your voice, and how to do that;
why we podcast and
how it has shaped our businesses;
the process of selecting guests and topics,
and more!

Thank you to Center for Discovery for being our partner in this event, and helping make it happen!

If you're ready to start YOUR nutrition podcast, get going with this Podcasting Guide for dietitians!

OTHER STUFF:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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WIND speakers gathered for a final Q&A at the end of our DC WIND Symposium day. ICYMI: WIND stands for weight inclusive nutrition and dietetics. You can learn about future events, and resources available now, by visiting weightinclusivenutrition.com .

This "live" recording happened on September 14, 2019, so the publishing is obviously a bit delayed. In any case, the questions were submitted by WIND attendees (which is a mix of therapists, dietitians, and nutrition students), and answered by our speakers and event co-hosts: Kimmie Singh MS RD, Brianna Campos LPC, Fiona Sutherland AUD, Lauren Newman RD, and myself (Heather Caplan RD).

Other things of interest:

One of our event partners, SimplePractice, an electronic health record keeper for dietitians, is offering new users three months for the price of one!
THE HAES® Research Library (Google Drive)
A FREE resource for getting started with Weight-Inclusive practices in dietetics.
The three WIND webinars recorded from the Symposium: How to Handle Body Image Conversations, A Deeper Look at Health at Every Size®, and a Research Review on Weight Stigma, and the Impacts on Healthcare.
Upcoming WIND events!

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Dianne Bondy is a social justice activist, author of Yoga for Everyone, yoga teacher, and the leader of the Yoga For All movement. She teaches yoga from a body positive, life-affirming perspective and educates yoga instructors around the world on how to make their classes welcoming and accessible for all kinds of practitioners. She also serves on the advisory board for the Association for Size Diversity and Health (ASDAH). On this episode, Dianne joins me to discuss HAES® principle 5: Life-Enhancing Movement.

More from Dianne:

Yoga for Everyone
Dianne Bondy on Youtube
Dianne Bondy on Instagram
Dianne Bondy on Facebook

More resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via theRD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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Questions? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com and your question may be added to our HAES® Q&A episode at the end of the series!

This podcast is produced by Liquid Sound Studios.

Ani Janzen is studying for her MPH while simultaneously completing her dietetic internship. She is a passionate advocate who sits on the board for the Association for Size Diversity and Health (ASDAH). As if that is not enough, she is also the founder of Radical Health Alliance, which is a fat positive nonprofit that focuses on improving access to health care and health promoting activities for people in larger bodies without focusing on weight loss. On this episode, Ani joins me to discuss HAES® principle 4: Eating for Well-being.

More from Ani:

Radical Health Alliance on Facebook
Radical Health Alliance on Instagram

More resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via theRD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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This podcast is produced by Liquid Sound Studios.

Ashley Seruya, while pursuing her LMSW, is passionate about staying true to the roots of fat activism, and supporting the Health at Every Size® (HAES) movement. She produces doodles to explain concepts and constructs such as weight stigma, weight-based discrimination, fat activism, and thin privilege. On this episode, she joins me to dive into HAES principle 3: Respectful Care.

More from Ashley:

Dear Thin Providers
Ashley @cozibae on IG

More resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via theRD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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Questions? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com and your question may be added to our HAES® Q&A episode at the end of the series!

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Amee Severson, registered dietitian and HAES®-aligned practitioner, joins me to talk through HAES principle #2: Health Enhancement. There are a lot of layers to this, and I hope we did the topic at least a little bit of justice, addressing the many facets of health, and what "health enhancement" might mean to each individual.

Fun fact, and a follow up on part of our discussion: In 2013, the American Medical Association's own Committee on Science and Public Health advised that ob*sity not be classified as a disease—meaning there wasn't enough science to support it. And, they noted, "It has no symptoms, and it’s not always harmful." The AMA disregarded this advice. You can read more about that here.

Follow Amee Severson's work: @amee_RD (IG)

Prospernutritionandwellness.com

A read from Amee: 5 Ways You Equate Diet With Health—And You're Wrong

More HAES resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via the RD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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This podcast is produced by Liquid Sound Studios.

The second episode of our Health at Every Size® series dives into HAES® principle #1: Weight Inclusivity.

Taylor Wolfram MS RD comes back on the podcast to discuss weight-inclusive practices, and what they really look like within nutrition, dietetics, and healthcare. On this podcast series, we're exploring each principle of HAES®, inspired by a series of Instagram posts Taylor published earlier this year. Check them out here.

Weight-inclusive information:

The weight-inclusive versus weight-normative approach to health
Variability of Body Weight and Health Outcomes in the Framingham Study
Probability of an "Obese" Person Attaining a Normal Body Weight
BMI and Health Risk Factors

More resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via theRD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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Questions? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com and your question may be added to our HAES® Q&A episode at the end of the series!

This podcast is produced by Liquid Sound Studios.

Welcome to the RD Real Talk HAES® podcast series! It starts with this introduction episode, featuring an interview with Dr. Jennifer Gaudiani, aka Dr. G. She's a HAES®-aligned physician who specializes in the treatment, and medical management of, eating disorders. Dr. G is humble, honest, passionate, and knowledgeable with it comes to everything, but especially weight-inclusive, non-harming care for her patients.

Learn more about Dr. G's work:

Gaudiani Clinic
@GaudianiClinic (IG)
Sick Enough: A Guide to the Medical Complications of Eating Disorders

More resources:

Association for Size Diversity and Health
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND)

Learn more about Weight Inclusive practices by joining a WIND event, or registering for our webinars!

Stay tuned for episodes diving into each principle of HAES®, and follow along for updates @RDRealTalk (your host, Heather Caplan), and via theRD Real Talk from the newsletter.

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Questions? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com and your question may be added to our HAES® Q&A episode at the end of the series!

This podcast is produced by Liquid Sound Studios.

Nicola Salmon, a UK-based fat-positive fertility specialist, joins us to talk about her personal experiences becoming a mom, activism, and being an ally. We talk about why women deserve fat-positive, weight-inclusive fertility (and overall healthcare, of course). We take a hard look at the evidence, some of which we're still missing because the research world is still heavily weight-centric. And we review ways in which ALL of us can do better to support practitioners that are weight-inclusive.

Follow Nicola's work: @FatPositiveFertility | FatPositiveFertility.com

The things we referenced:

Nicola's free resource: The Fat Girl's Guide to Getting Pregnant
"Exaggerating the Risks Again" via The Well-Rounded Mama
"When You're Told You're Too Fat to Get Pregnant" by Virginia Sole-Smith for New York Times*
A diagram "comparing 'maximal efficiency' outcomes in IVF" by Jess @HAES_StudentDoctor
Advocating for weight-inclusive healthcare/assessing whether you'll receive fat-positive healthcare, by Nicola Salmon

Additional resources:

A Review of Pregnancy in Women Over 35
Stigma in Practice: Barriers to Health for Fat Women
Weight-loss surgery and risk of pregnancy and birth complications

*Snippets from the article (though the full text is an important read):

“In 1952, a pair of Boston physicians published a study in The New England Journal of Medicine titled “The Relation of Obesity to Menstrual Disturbances.” The authors surveyed 100 women between the ages of 16 and 40 who had been given diagnoses of menstrual disorders and compared their weights with a control group with no reproductive health issues. 43% of the patients with menstrual disorders weighed 20% or more than their “ideal weight,” compared with just 13% of the control subjects. Their findings, the authors concluded, gave ‘factual proof to the clinical impression of the association of obesity and menstrual disturbances.’”
A study done like this today would likely not go so far as to claim ‘factual proof’, but rather correlation with weight and menstrual disorders. However, it’s crucial to look at all of the factors, instead of zoning in on one (weight).

“...data collected on 7,327 pregnancies from 1959 to 1965 --it took heavier women a median of one to two months longer to conceive, compared with women with B.M.I.s in the “normal weight” range. A 2015 study of 1,602 Italian women undergoing I.V.F. found that the bigger women were just as likely to get pregnant, but were more likely to miscarry. All in all, the research shows a correlating decline in successful pregnancy rates as B.M.I. rises.” (The latter is also true of age.)

“In comparison, a 2008 evidence review of the relationship between maternal age and stillbirth risk found that thinner women over 35 were also almost twice as likely to have a stillborn delivery compared with their younger counterparts.”

OTHER STUFF:

Reach out with questions for the show, comments, or feedback anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail.com

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[Replay!] Jessica Jones, dietitian and co-host of Food Heaven podcast, joins me to chat about her career, and then, Whole30. January seems like the most popular time for people to "try" the Whole30, so we're here to try and help you avoid that path. I put out a call to social media, asking people why they've done the Whole30, and what they liked about it, to try and integrate various perspectives.

Tune into our conversation to learn why Whole30 isn't the best way to adopt new habits like meal planning, trying new recipes, and eating to feel better. There are many other ways to do all of the above, without extreme food restrictions or rigid food rules.

We address: meal planning, recipes, digestive issues, sugar addiction (or lack thereof), PCOS, and the hidden threat of deprivation.

Most of the things we talked about:

Food heaven show on YouTube, and the Food Heaven podcast
“I guess the Whole30 is very much still a thing”, on my blog
Marci Evans on Food Addiction: Food Pscyh & RD Real Talk (#26)
“Why Fear of Sugar Addiction May Be More Toxic Than Sugar Is” by Rebecca Scritchfield RD
PCOS Nutrition resources: Julie Duffy Dillon & Rachael Hartley

Other stuff:

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

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Heather and Robyn keep this holiday-week episode simple, focusing on a listener question about how to handle social (and familial) food comparisons when eating. They provide intuitive eating, and mindfulness-based nutrition therapy tips for RDs and non-RDs alike.

Disclaimer: Answers to listener questions are provided with the intent to help educate, inform, and give food for thought. These episodes are not meant to replace individual nutrition counseling or medical care.

For a chance to get your question answered on an upcoming show, reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at gmail dot com.

For more about each episode, go to heathercaplan.com/realtalk

Other stuff:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your hosts:

Heather Caplan RD : Twitter: @heatherDCRD, Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Robyn Nohling RD FNP: @thereal_lifeRD, Real Life Women's Health

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Robyn and Heather chat about two different existential RD crises today. One is a listener question about how to offer (or not offer) (un)solicited nutrition and health advice to people you love, the other a case of cognitive dissonance, fatigue, and career-choice-questioning.

The post titled "I don't want to be a dietitian anymore" is the highest viewed blog on Heather's site, which led to a conversation about the comments, sentiments, and fatigue shared among those who have found this read. (And maybe that's you!) Hopefully this conversation offers some solace!

Links to other things mentioned:

Robyn's private practice
Heather's private practice
Robyn's journey to FNP, RDN
INSPIRDtoSEEK (Haley Goodrich's community for RDs)
Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics events

Questions or requests for our next Q&A? Reach out, anytime: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

Other stuff:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics (WIND) Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your hosts:

Heather Caplan RD : Twitter: @heatherDCRD, Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Robyn Nohling RD FNP: @thereal_lifeRD, https://thereallife-rd.com

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Fiona Sutherland, APD RYT joins the podcast to talk about both the highs and lows of her path toward the non-diet approach (NDA). Fiona is a prolific provider with online and in-person resources for all types of clinicians, while she focuses on private practice, teaching, and sports nutrition. Fiona is heading to the United States this year, from her home base in Melbourne Australia, to provide the NDA to dietitians in Houston, Toronto, and of course, Washington DC!

Listen to learn more about Fiona's career, why it's important to remain a student and open to learning, and where you can meet her this year!

Links:

Fiona Sutherland on Twitter and Instagram
Fiona’s online resources for practitioners
NDA workshop (in Washington DC, Houston, and Toronto)
WIND Symposium
WIND Webinars

Other stuff:

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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RD Real Talk podcast friends, Kelly Jones MS RD and Kim Hoban RD, recently launched a new podcast, "Imperfect Health". I got to join them as their first guest, talking about all things postpartum. The three of us have been friends for years, and happened to become first-time-moms around the same time. I'm sharing the first episode here, but tune into Imperfect Health for Part 2!

Other things discussed:

Weight inclusive nutrition and dietetics (WIND) symposium registration is open! Check out weightinclusivenutrition.com for more details about the event(s) and our speakers.
HAES podcast series coming to RD Real Talk soon!

As always, don't hesitate to reach out with questions: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

More about the Imperfect Health podcast:

The show where two intuitive eating dietitians chat about fitting in fitness, nourishing our minds and bodies, raising our families and nurturing relationships; all while trying to achieve career goals, too. Join me and co-host Kelly Jones for fun, inspiring and informative conversations about Imperfect Health.

Heather and Robyn take on a listener question about the "problems" that are stereotypes of higher weight. What about things like osteoarthritis, sleep apnea, painful periods, or even the size of an airplane seat? What then?

After a little time spent on life and business updates (per usual), we dive into what Health at Every Size (HAES) means, using a wider lens with clients, and providing everyone the option of putting weight aside.

If you're open to learning more about HAES, stay tuned for an upcoming podcast series that dives into each principle of the movement! And for now, consider joining us at the next Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) Symposium in Washington DC, on September 14, 2019. Registration is open!

Things we talked about today:

ASDAH, and HAES® Facts
Lane 9 Project
Female Athlete Conference
Intuitive Eating resources (c/o Alissa Rumsey MS RD)
EDRDPro Membership site!
Fit Fueling course for sports nutrition + IE

And the WIND webinar, "How to have conversations with clients about weight loss" by Jennifer McGurk RD CEDRD, is included in this bundle that you can access (3 CEUs).

Questions or requests for our next Q&A? Reach out, anytimet: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

Other stuff:

Be part of the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our Patreon community, for just $1.

Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Your hosts:

Heather Caplan RD : Twitter: @heatherDCRD, Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Robyn Nohling RD FNP: @thereal_lifeRD, https://thereallife-rd.com

[Replay from the RD Real Talk Intuitive Eating series!]

Jennifer Rollin, MSW LCSW-C and eating disorder specialist, joins me to talk about the spectrum of emotional eating. The seventh principle of Intuitive Eating addresses the times in life when we may try to numb emotions with food, or feel emotions because of food. We talk about personality traits, learning to recognize emotions, and our physiological responses to psychological stress.

Jennifer's work can be found on her site: jenniferrollin.com. She also writes about the anti-diet movement, and eating disorder recovery, for the Huffington Post. She also has a series of webinars, found here. Follow her work on Instagram: @jennifer_rollin

Join the next Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics (WIND) Symposium in Washington DC on September 14! More information: weightinclusivenutrition.com

Questions? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com.

For more information about this series, and my work, visit HeatherCaplan.com or follow along @HeatherDCRD on Twitter, or follow @RDRealTalk on Instagram.

ICYMI: I’m hosting the DC WIND Symposium in September! Registration is open, and the planning and execution of this next WIND event has been almost all-consuming. So, instead of your regularly scheduled interview-style episode, I’m sharing some lessons learned, bringing you behind-the-scenes with this major project.

I confess to a Big Mistake I made during the WIND Workshop (a few, actually), what to expect at the DC WIND Symposium, and why I’ve shifted my stance on working with brands and company partners (who have, thus far, made most of this possible).

I share an anecdote about something I’ve learned since hosting the WIND Workshop (and why I’ll be re-recording one of these sessions), and also share this important quote from an eloquent essay by the author known as Your Fat friend on Medium:

“Beyond your good intentions, “the last acceptable form of discrimination” tells me that you believe racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism are all completed chapters, and that they have closed for all of us. But our attitudes are not so simple, our intent not foundational, and our history not so straightforward.”

Join us for the DC WIND Symposium in September! Early-bird registration is still open as of the time of recording. More about the agenda, speaker announcements, and registration information: weightinclusivenutrition.com/events

Or, apply for the WIND scholarship open to the Diversify Dietetics community!

Reminder: DC WIND is happening in collaboration with Fiona Sutherland and Haley Goodrich’s non-diet approach workshop! You don’t have to register for both, but you receive a discount on registration if you do!

Last but not least: If you have any questions, about HAES principles, WIND events and registration, or just life as an RD, my inbox is always open. RDREalTalk at gmail.com

Heather and Robyn provide a few answers to your questions today, addressing feedback from fellow healthcare providers when trying to take a non-diet, HAES-informed approach to patient care, and the limbo of “pseudo-recovery”, or that time in someone’s intuitive eating journey where they’re not quite sure what to do next.

If you’re a nutrition professional looking to learn more about this non-diet, weight-inclusive approach, consider joining us at the next Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) event, coming up on September 14 in Washington DC! Registration opens May 13, on weightinclusivenutrition.com.

Questions or requests for our next Q&A? Reach out, anytimet: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Your hosts:

Heather Caplan RD : Twitter: @heatherDCRD, Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Robyn Nohling RD FNP: @thereal_lifeRD, https://thereallife-rd.com

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Kara Lydon, aka The Foodie Dietitian, and carb afficionado, joins me to talk about All Things Carbohydrates, and why it's okay to consume carbs, regularly. We also talk about her career evolution—from Big Company Marketing Expert to Entrepreneur with a Part-Time Private Practice and Media/Consulting business.

THE Carbohydrate Resource: Make Peace With Carbs

Kara's recipes and work can be found on her site: KaraLydon.com

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Heather and Robyn get real about pelvic floor health and when it may be a good time to reach out to a Physical Therapist, and then dive into the nuances of Intuitive Eating and food allergies. Robyn recently had to cut out dairy due to her little babe's dairy protein allergy, and takes us BTS of the diagnosis, her initial response, and how IE does, completely, work in the presence of these specific needs.

Things we mentioned:

Abby Bales, Queen of Pelvic Floor Health aka @ReformPTNYC
Food allergy vs. food intolerance
Send us questions! RDRealTalk@Gmail.com

Follow along:

Robyn @thereallife_RD
Heather @RDRealTalk

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Kimmie Singh MS RD2Be joins us to talk about all things weight-inclusive care for PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome). Kimmie describes how her "informal" nutrition education started young, while she was studying physics in college, when she was diagnosed with PCOS at age 19. Given little medical guidance or nutrition resources, Kimmie took it up on herself to learn how to manage her symptoms.

Much of what we see in the PCOS literature focuses on weight-normative care and promotes weight loss or "weight management". This episode provides information on how and why this approach will likely fail, and how to effectively manage PCOS without a focus on weight.

Stay tuned for a review of a weight-focused commentary in a recent AND journal, Kimmie's personal experiences, and a PCOS Q&A.

Things we talk about:

Julie Duffy Dillon and Kimmie Singh's 10-episode PCOS podcast series
PCOSandfoodpeace.com
Kimmie's detailed blog series about PCOS on JulieDillonRD.com
ASDAH Provider Network (for weight-inclusive healthcare)

More about Kimmie Singh MS RD2Be: TastingAbudance.com

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Thin privilege exists. It's not a blessing, an entitlement, a praise on anyone's body size (or lack thereof), it's not a label, not something you've asked for, and not something you've earned. It is sociocultural and systemic. It is oppressing body types that exist outside the accepted norm. It is the ease of existing in this world, as Cara Harbstreet put it, "without the shadow of weight stigma following you around."

But first: Robyn Nohling and I co-host this episode and do a quick real-life-check-in, talk about why people ask food/health questions to the non-experts, and then, of course, thin privilege.

The post that re-sparked this discussion about thin privilege in the dietetics world: "We have to talk about thin privilege" by Kathleen Meehan RD.

More:

What it is and what it is NOT (@RDRealTalk)
Not up to you to decide (@streetsmart.RD)
Contributing to weight stigma (@theRDnutritionist)
Make room for discomfort (@hgoodrichRD)
Not to insult or label people (@theintuitive_RD)

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Crystal Savoy MS RD joins me on the show to talk about her career path, how to stop counting calories (or help your clients through it), body changes, and grieving the thin ideal. Crystal studied at Simmons College, gaining a rare dietetics education in eating disorder treatment, and quickly landed her dream job as an associate dietitian with Real Life Women's Health (led by Robyn Nohling FNP RD).

Things we talk about:

Killing it at HAES Facebook group for RDs2Be
Marci Evans on RD Real Talk (episode #29)
National Eating Disorders Association (NEDA)
Grieving the "thin ideal" on GenerousPlan.com

More about: Crystal Savoy MS RD | @brainnutritionRD

Other stuff:

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Almost everything is impermanent, actually. Including this podcast! But we're here for now, and it's the 100th episode of RD Real Talk!

Today's episode covers everything from "adrenal fatigue" vs. allostatic load (as a follow up to episode 99), and then dives right into Instagram fatigue, and learning to sit with discomfort in various life stages and transitions. Know what our vulnerabilities are; learn how to set boundaries; remember that most things are impermanent (i.e. this too shall pass).

Read: Robyn's blog post on adrenal fatigue

We talk a lot about women's reproductive health in this episode. If you're curious to learn more, Robyn and I were part of a panel that recorded this educational webinar: Nutrition for Women's Reproductive Health. Register to access the recording and the workbook!

Other stuff:

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Heather and Robyn are back to co-host this episode of RD Real Talk, talking about stress, and Allostatic Load (or overload). We're both in a certain phase of life where "overwhelm" comes easily, and we have to consistently reassess how much our buckets can hold.

Allostatic Load: "Stressed or stressed out: What is the difference?"

Robyn wrote a great blog post about Allostatic load, so if you want to dive in further, read on.

Things we discuss:

how running can be part of joyful movement and a balanced relationship with health <> exercise
why I (Heather) didn't go after that half-marathon PR
real life, imperfect human moments
how to tell when your bucket might be WAY TOO full

Questions or feedback, or just a story about allostatic load in your life? Reach out: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

Other stuff:

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Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Kevin Klatt, Ph.D and RD2Be, joins me on the show to talk about the science of weight loss, and how diets repeatedly fail (to both stand the test of time, and result in sustainable body changes). At one point, Kevin added himself, and his story, to the National Weight Control Registry. More recently, he wrote an article for the impressive online SELF Weight Issue, titled "Why Weight Loss Diets Fail". We talk about it all—including random diet culture moments from the depths of history.

This episode is in partnership with Jennifer McGurk's NEW online course for dietitians looking to start, or continue building, a private practice focused on the intuitive eating philosophies. Check out the course:

Pursuing Private Practice—Intuitive Eating Edition

Other things mentioned:

Why Weight Loss Diets Fail in the SELF Weight Issue
One example of the parallels between diet culture and some religious beliefs (there are a lot of things we could link here; if you're curious, do a quick search and keep reading!)
The IE-HAES Debate Tweet
Nutrition Wonk (Kevin's n=2 podcast co-host)

Kevin Klatt, Ph.D @kcklatt

Robyn Nohling, aka The Real Life RD and head dietitian at Real Life Women's Health, joins me on this episode to chat everything from the working-mom-life to private practice to our stance on the term "Ideal" body weights.

This is our first episode co-hosting the show (with many more to come), so let us know what you think!

Links:

Robyn's Blog: The Real Life RD
Heather's Blog: Real Talk RD
Female Athlete Conference
Weight Inclusive Dietetics information

Questions, comments, concerns, or feedback about this episode (#97): Email me anytime, RDRealTalk at gmail.com

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Haley Goodrich, INSPIRD private practice dietitian and co-leader of the #INSPIRDtoSEEK Facebook group for nutrition entrepreneurs, joins me on this episode to talk about holding space for our clients. But first, we dive into the evolution of her business, and her own process of embracing a non-diet approach and learning how to do some uncomfortable work.

This episode touches on how we can do less harm and more good by addressing our egos, our expectations, and our learned behaviors that suggest we have to have "The Fix" and provide tangible takeaways every time—and changing that approach. Instead, we are learning to be present with another person and their story, without always having (or needing) a solution.

We touch on thin and body privilege, weight stigma, expanding your business, and starting to see how weight inclusive practices apply beyond nutrition therapy and into the world around us.

Links mentioned:

INSPIRDtoSEEK Facebook group
INSPIRD Nutrition, Haley's private practice in Pittsburgh, PA
What we've learned about Holding Space (h/t Fiona Sutherland, of The Mindful Dietitian)
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) events
Weight Stigma

88 Acres partnership with RD Real Talk and WIND events helped bring this episode to your ears. Check out their Nutrition Collaborative for professionals!

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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How can we practice more weight-inclusivity in healthcare? In dietetics? Why does this approach feel threatening, and divisive? What can we do about the lack of diversity in dietetics?

Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) Workshop recording:

These aren’t easy questions to answer, or even talk about. But it’s necessary that we look at these issues and get ready to take them on. It’s imperative that we stop promoting and engaging weight-based discrimination. It’s unethical to suggest weight-loss is always a path to better health.

In this panel discussion, and first ever live podcast recording for the show, you’ll hear dietitians Alissa Rumsey, Beth Rosen, Jennifer McGurk, and Heather Caplan (me). This was preceded by three continuing education sessions (outlined here), which are now recorded webinars available for purchase!

WIND Virtual Registration—Get three webinars focused on weight-inclusive practices!

Join the WIND email list for future event and production updates.

Things we talked about:

Nicole Antoinette’s Newsletter
Representation: The 67% project
Diversify Dietetics & their scholarship fund
The non-diet approach isn’t easy work
The Fat Sex Therapist (and sharing messages from marginalized communities)
Research being done by one of our attendees, Kendrin Sonneville ScD RD
Marci Evans: Resources for professionals
“Sick Enough”, by Jennifer Gaudiana, with a section on bariatric surgery

Music used in this episode, “New Frontier” via premiumbeat.com

Other stuff:

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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It's just me on this one, because #lifehappens. It's also a deep dive into the Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics events I launched in late 2018, giving you a little glimpse behind the scenes. Here are the links and resources mentioned:

Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) events
JOIN US virtually, since the NYC workshop sold out
Alissa Rumsey MS RD—my partner in launching the NYC WIND Workshop
The RD Real Talk episode with Alissa
Association for Size Diversity and Health (ASDAH)
International Weight Stigma conference

Get on the WIND email list for updates about upcoming events and workshops.

Register for access to the inaugural WIND Workshop webinars, for 3 CEUs!

And other stuff:

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Emily Travis, MPH RD, joins me to talk about all things dating, socializing, and maintaining your intuitive eating preferences. Emily regales us with stories from her dating experiences, from inappropriate comments to a waiter offering some #DietCulture tips. We're not here for that, y'all.

Emily offers more information about this topic on her site: WeAll-Eat.com.

We cover everything from friendships to romantic relationships, but I do want to acknowledge that this is mostly a conversation about "traditional" dating, in hetero-normative relationships. So, I want to welcome YOUR stories, too. Have a different perspective to add to the mix? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@Gmail.com

Before we dive into all things dating, I share a little real-talk-moment about an unpleasant run-in with diet culture on social media. Maybe you can relate to that, too.

For more, follow Emily @weall_eat on Instagram.

Other stuff:

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Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com | Virtual registration: get three webinars for 3 CEUs!

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Kelsey Miller, author of the 5-year column "The Anti-Diet Project" on Refiner29, and force behind The 67 Percent Project, joins me for a chat about all things real life, and Not dieting. Kelsey shares the moment, "somewhere between an epiphany and a panic attack," when she decided to be done with dieting. And from there, what's next? An eating coach, the Intuitive Eating book, writing her memoir (see below), and how life can be hard, either way.

We also touch on representation in pop culture, and a different way to look at some of our favorite shows (again!), a la her newest book.

More of Kelsey's work:

Big Girl, a memoir
I'll Be There For You, a book about FRIENDS
KelseyMiller.com
@MsKelseyMiller

Other stuff:

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Learn more about the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics Events: weightinclusiveconference.com. Join us virtually for the first event!

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk.

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Taylor Wolfram, dietitian, vegan advocate, and HAES practitioner, wants you to know what veganism is, and what it definitely isn't (e.g. a diet). She posted about this on Instagram recently, knowing it would spark some controversy but willing to take that on. "It's just the tip of the iceberg," she wrote in her post on Instagram.

We answer a listener's question about some family health history and current heart health issues, related to veganism.

We talk about how veganism and the Eating Disorder treatment worlds can seem at odds.

We talk about the Health Halo and pervasive Diet Culture messaging surrounding veganism, and how to decode it.

And we talk about why Taylor's passion is helping vegans embrace Health at Every Size, and vice versa.

Taylor: @TaylorWolframRD , wholegreenwellness.com

Resources mentioned:

ASDAH webinars
Body Respect, by Linda Bacon PhD
TheVeganRD.com
Even Vegans Die
The Full Helping

Join us for the Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetic events!

Virtual registration for 3 sessions on weight stigma, weight cycling, and weight-inclusive practices for core areas of dietetics

Other stuff:

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Replay! Lindsay Stenovec, dietitian and host of The Nurtured Mama podcast, joins me to talk about the tenth principle of Intuitive Eating. At the end, nutrition is brought back into the picture! This book was authored by two dietitians, after all.

Lindsay and I talk about why it's important that nutrition is taken OFF the table while clients work on eating intuitively. Diet culture has hijacked our thoughts around nutrition, making it nearly impossible to feel "good" about eating anything but fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. Orthorexia, an eating disorder defined by an unhealthy fixation on eating healthy foods, is an eating disorder that's hard for some people to even recognize. Dieting is the norm.

In this episode, we hope to help you understand why it's OK—healthy, even—to put nutrition thoughts away while you work on other aspects of Intuitive eating, including self-trust and self-awareness. And it's OK to be interested in nutrition again, eventually.

Lindsay's work and Nurtured Mama community can be found on her website, nutritioninstincts.com .

Other stuff:

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Replay! Paige Smathers, dietitian and host of the podcast Nutrition Matters, joins me to dive into the sixth principle of Intuitive Eating. Satisfaction is different than satiety, but it can take some time to identify their unique qualities. Our diet-focused culture has a hard time with satisfaction, as it implies feeling pleasure in your food experiences. Our clients have struggled with this principle, as it requires coming to peace with our food preferences and cravings.

Links we talk about on the episode:

Don't Let Trader Joe's Make You Feel Guilty About Eating

Paige's podcast episode about Intuitive Eating

10 Principles of Intuitive Eating

Read the book: Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program That Works

Other stuff:

Join the extended podcast conversations and meet fellow real-talkers by joining our community,Patreon.com/RdRealTalk

Learn more about Weight Inclusive Nutrition & Dietetics education and events.

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

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Replay! Julie Duffy Dillon, aka the Food Peace RD, joins me to discuss Intuitive Eating (IE) Principle #3: Make Peace With Food. All foods! Not just the healthy, or "fun", foods.

We start by outlining what's called "The Last Supper Phenomenon" of dieting. This sets everyone up for failure, yet we see it happen so often. It's just one factor that pulls your dieting pendulum too far to one side, so it will inevitably swing right back.

Read the book: Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program That Works

Julie and I dig into the importance of making peace with all foods, how this concept is largely misunderstood, and what steps anyone can take to start the process. As Julie says, EVERY food has its place, and anything can be unhealthy for us in excess. (Yep, even broccoli!)

For more on Intuitive Eating, check out the FULL Intuitive Eating RD Real Talk podcast series.

Other stuff:

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Replay! This episode originally aired in January 2018, but it's a topic we can't talk about enough. Honoring Hunger.

Jennifer McGurk joins me to discuss Intuitive Eating principle #2: Honoring Your Hunger. At the time of recording, I was pregnant and she had just given birth, so we start with some real talk about the IE lessons these experiences will teach you! If you decide to skip ahead, we get into the principle and how it's essential to intuitive eating. It's also crucial to have acknowledged your diet mentality, and put any goals of weight loss (or "management" aside) in order to really hear and heed your body's hunger signals.

Jennifer is an eating disorder specialist, so part of our conversation touches on how this principle is used for eating disorder treatment, when appropriate.

Check out Jennifer's work and resources on her site: EatwithKnowledge.com

Questions? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com.

Learn more about weight inclusive nutrition practices, and how that combines with Intuitive Eating: weightinclusiveconference.com

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Replay! This is the episode that kicked of the RD Real Talk podcast Intuitive Eating series—10 episodes all about the principles, and evidence, behind Intuitive Eating (IE). Evelyn Tribole is one of the co-authors of the book on Intuitive Eating, and dishes about how the idea came to be, why she wrote it (with Elyse Resche), and what that was like in the mid-90s. For reference: It was first published in 1995!

If you haven't already, buy the book and dig in.

For now, tune in to hear it all from the OG IE dietitian herself.

Other stuff:

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Jessica Jones, dietitian and host of Food Heaven podcast, joins me to chat about her career, and then, Whole30. January seems like the most popular time for people to "try" the Whole30, so we're here to try and help you avoid that path. I put out a call to social media, asking people why they've done the Whole30, and what they liked about it, to try and integrate various perspectives.

Tune into our conversation to learn why Whole30 isn't the best way to adopt new habits like meal planning, trying new recipes, and eating to feel better. There are many other ways to do all of the above, without extreme food restrictions or rigid food rules.

We address: meal planning, recipes, digestive issues, sugar addiction (or lack thereof), PCOS, and the hidden threat of deprivation.

Most of the things we talked about:

Food heaven show on YouTube, and the Food Heaven podcast
“I guess the Whole30 is very much still a thing”, on my blog
Marci Evans on Food Addiction: Food Pscyh & RD Real Talk (#26)
“Why Fear of Sugar Addiction May Be More Toxic Than Sugar Is” by Rebecca Scritchfield RD
PCOS Nutrition resources: Julie Duffy Dillon & Rachael Hartley

Other stuff:

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

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Solo episode! I used to blog about business updates, but I took it to the podcast this time. A year-in-review type thing, addressing things that I started but didn't continue, how I make business decisions, risks I've taken, and things that are new.

*If you know the lyrical reference, you get me.

Links referenced in the episode:

Previous business updates, on the blog
The weekly newsletter
Weight inclusive nutrition and dietetics (WIND) events
My intern, Nicole Nguyen (@stillandwell)
Lane9Project.org (and our Facebook group)
Webinar: How to use the core concepts of Intuitive Eating with Sports Nutrition
Wall Quote: “99 Diets”
FitFueling.com
Whitney Bateson’s digital strategy for dietitians
SimpleMills.com

Other stuff:

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Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

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Jessi Haggerty, aka host of The Body Love Project podcast, joins me on the show. We talk about how she began questioning the efficacy of weight-loss diets in college, and how that felt as a young RD. Jessi is also a personal trainer, tired of the fat-phobia and fear-based food messaging in the fitness industry. Her work is based around body inclusivity, women's health, and creating environments supportive of Intuitive Eating and Health at Every Size (HAES).

Also in this episode: Jessi shares a personal update that explains why we've heard a little less from her on her podcast and blog this year. And we dive into a discussion about how our favorite TV shows of yore don't quite hold up in the body and weight-inclusive world we want to foster. (Looking at you, FRIENDS and SATC. Though, the list is long!)

Things and links mentioned in the show:

Jessi Haggerty
Real Talk blog post: "I don't want to be a dietitian anymore"
The Body Love Project podcast
Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Way That Works, by Evelyn Tribole and Elyse Resche
Intuitive Eating podcast series on RD Real Talk
The One About Friends, by Kelsey Miller
WokeCharlotte & Every Outfit on SATC
Extended conversations about podcast episodes, Q&A, and community chats with the RD Real Talk Patreon! Join here, for just $1.

Interested in the Weight-Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics event series? Join our email list! More: weightinclusiveconference.com

This episode is sponsored by Simple Mills. Check out their snacks, baking mixes, and frostings on SimpleMills.com

Other stuff:

Your host, Heather Caplan: HeatherCaplan.com, @heatherDCRD, @RDRealTalk

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Thank you for listening!

Emily Kyle recently published a post on her site, titled, "I Am Not An Anti-Diet Dietitian". Naturally, I thought, we should talk about that. Emily and I discuss everything from desires for weight loss to both acute, and chronic health diseases and managing symptoms through—dare we say—a specific diet.

Most important: We talk to each other with an open-mind, acknowledging that sometimes we may think we disagree on things, but really it's all in the message. (And recognizing each other's humanity.)

More you'll hear about on this episode:

Emily's experience with Pelvic Inflammatory Disease
Realizing, this is almost always true.
Weight Inclusive Nutrition and Dietetics (WIND) event series
Jannibas.
A listener's question about one of the main things Emily and I discussed: How to make diet changes for health, without feeling like you've abandoned Intuitive Eating.

Other stuff:

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Shanna Hutcheson, aka the dietitian behind Wellness for the Win. She stopped calorie counting in January 2017, and wrote a blog post about it on her site. We talk about her process of personally, and then professionally, incorporating the principles of Intuitive Eating that resonate with her. We talk about why she changed her tune, and embraced a life without calorie counting. We talk about her adorable doggos. And we talk about how it feels to enter this non-fad-diet world and feel a little clumsy at first—Am I saying "this" right? Does this resonate? Does it help?

But first, I start today's episode by diving into a hot topic: The latest research touting a Low-Carbohydrate diet for "weight maintenance". Fun, right?

You can read a summary of the research here, but I encourage you read the whole thing (full access on BMJ).

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Kim Hoban is back on the show today, an RD Real Talk OG. We both have gone through significant life changes this year, becoming new moms. Kim was on a wild ride during pregnancy, with everything from placenta previa to gestational diabetes to, our shared experience, carpal tunnel. We talk about cravings—one that brought me out of a pescetarian lifestyle (which I'm thankful for)—and what might be at the root of them. And we talk about life, because sometimes we need a break from talking about nutrition.

Things mentioned during the show:

Kim, and her daily work in being an advocate for her own health-autonomy, as well as yours. Find more: KHnutrition.com

The Nurtured Mama community

Real Food for Pregnancy, by Lily Nichols

Other stuff:

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Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

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Kelly Jones is my business partner in Fit Fueling—our online course that integrates sports nutrition and intuitive eating practices for active women. We've been running the course for over 18 months now, and learn something new every time!

In this episode, we chat about how and why we decided to start an online course, the systems we use, the failures and successes we've had, and what we're doing now. We also dive into the most frequently asked questions from our groups, and how we feel bout weight set point, calorie intake for athletes (and humans), and the tracking apps that just won't die.

Register to join our next group on FitFueling.com!

More about Kelly and her work: kellyjonesnutrition.com | @kellyjonesRD

Other stuff:

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Follow along: @RDRealTalk | heathercaplan.com

Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

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Cara Harbstreet, of StreetSmart Nutrition and a new startup, Libre Connections, joins me to talk business, investing in yourself, and mind mapping! (I had to look up what mind-mapping is, btw.) She's gone from being a new RD with a full-time job, to starting her private practice, to joining a startup incubator all in just a few years. She had an idea, and ran with it. Cue: Libre Connections.

We talk about successes and failures in business, starting something and learning along the way, and what happens when you invest in yourself (even if it's just a few bucks to get you started).

Oh, and we talk about being sassy on Twitter (@StreetSmartRD).

Check out Cara's new podcast, You Can Eat With Us.

Other stuff:

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Jessie Hoffman is a nutrition PhD candidate, and budding toxicologist! She took some time away from her research and dissertation to chat about how to identify weight stigma, a convenience sample, and researcher bias in any given article. Whether you're interested in the non-diet approach to nutrition and finding resources to support why this work is essential, or you're just curious about research things, this one's for you.

Before we dive into the topic du jour, I answer a listener's question about the inclusivity (or perceived lack thereof) of the non-diet approach and intuitive eating paradigms. If you've lost weight on a diet, can you still join us? (Spoiler alert: Yes, please!)

Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

Join Kelly Jones MS RD CSSD and I in our virtual Fit Fueling course, integrating intuitive eating with sports nutrition (open to RDs and non-RDs!). Our next course starts soon!

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Jennifer McGurk started her private practice to help people recover from eating disorders, after experiencing an eating disorder herself. Then she built a course for dietitians, Pursuing Private Practice, to help you build your business. So, she's in the business of helping people! And she's damn good at it.

Today, we talk about the parallels of eating disorder recovery and building a business, two things we've both experienced in different ways.

Check out Jennifer's Pursuing Private Practice resources if you're interested!

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Jennie Zabrinski is a sports dietitian, former college athlete, and intuitive eater. She's the Associate Athletics Director for Sports Nutrition at Virginia Tech, and has been a collegiate sports dietitian for eight years. Recently, she launched an Instagram account (@followyourblissnutrition) for college athletes learning to navigate the real world, without a rigid training schedule or dining hall menu. We talk about how she's gradually bringing IE to college sports nutrition, and why her new Instagram nutrition resource may be crucial to helping athletes figure out their relationship with food outside of sports.

If you're interested in the Fit Fueling course I lead online, check out FitFueling.com. Our Hypothalamic Amenorrhea recovery course starts soon! Register here.

If you want to learn more about Intuitive Eating, listen to the series on this podcast! It launched in January 2018, and takes a deep dive into each of the 10 principles.

Questions or comments? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

Follow along on Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Rachel Manor is a sports dietitian at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. Her career path has largely focused on collegiate athletics, but hasn't always focused on Intuitive Eating. She dishes out some real talk about how she's gradually learning to use these principles in this high-level of sport, and in a university setting.

If you want to learn more about Intuitive Eating, listen to the series on this podcast! It launched in January 2018, and takes a deep dive into each of the 10 principles.

If you're interested in the Fit Fueling course I lead online, check out FitFueling.com. Our Hypothalamic Amenorrhea recovery course starts soon! Register here.

Questions or comments? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk@gmail.com

Follow along on Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Alexis Fairbanks is a runner, teacher, and one of my co-founders of Lane 9 Project. As a collegiate athlete, she struggled not only with disordered eating, but also with acknowledging that her relationship with food, and her body, was disordered. She suffered from stress fractures, decline in performance, and decreasing self confidence. Now, in her recovery from both disordered eating and hypothalamic amenorrhea (HA), she's working hard to help other women get the help they need.

We talk about how she finally recognized and acknowledged her eating disorder, how she's let go of her food rules, why we started Lane 9 Project, and what inspired her to write about her story on Runner's World.

We also talk about how she's faster, stronger, and much healthier as a runner now, and what that means to her. (Spoiler: She has qualified for Boston AT Boston, so, there's that.)

If you're struggling with hypothalamic amenorrhea, consider joining me and Kelly Jones MS RD CSSD for our newest Fit Fueling course, focused on HA recovery. It starts September 10th. Register here!

Additional resources and links mentioned in the show:

Lane 9 Project virtual community
Lane9Project.org
Alexisfairbanks.com
"It Took Me Years To Realize I Had An Eating Disorder"

Other stuff:

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Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

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I asked for questions, you answered. Then, I answered your questions! But first, read the disclaimer below.

These listener-submitted inquiries touch on topics such as questioning Intuitive Eating or calorie counting, how to tell if a client is "interested" in nutrition or obsessing over it, how to do research in a weight-neutral paradigm, how to learn more about the "business side" of dietetics, and recovering from disordered eating.

Resources mentioned:

Fit Fueling e-course: FitFueling.com
Hypothalamic Amenorrhea Fit Fueling course (starts in a few weeks!)
"Intuitive Eating in Eating Disorder Recovery", by Rachael Hartley RD
Lane 9 Project Virtual Community (More on Lane9Project.org)
Pursuing Private Practice e-course by Jennifer McGurk
Telling my story and experience with Orthorexia on Megyn Kelly TODAY show

Questions or comments or thoughts? Email me! RDRealTalk@Gmail dot com.

If you're enjoying the show, leave a review on iTunes!

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*Disclaimer: While I am a registered dietitian, and speaking to topics that my work focuses on (Orthorexia, Hypothalamic amenorrhea, intuitive eating, and disordered eating), these answers are in no way meant to replace, or be a substitute for, personalized medical and nutrition advice from your primary care physician and/or personal dietitian. I've answered these questions with the information I had available, but these answers are not meant to be prescriptive or diagnostic, and I am not responsible for any errors or omissions, and we accept no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage you may incur. Please seek individual care from your healthcare team as needed.

Heather Irvine is the former Food and Nutrition editor at Runner's World, now a freelance journalist (and fellow new mom!). We exchange real talk about why diet messages are so prevalent in all forms of media, what people are drawn to, and how publications perpetuate this cycle. She provides tips to freelance writers about how to combat the nonstop diet-focused articles, how to get published, and best practices for writing, pitching, and interviewing. Heather shares her experience with an eating disorder in college, how she got her Runner's World job, and what she's doing now!

Follow and support Heather Irvine's work: @RunsonFuel (Twitter and Instagram)

LMK: What ideas to you have for sharing and spreading a non-diet message? What creative collaborations could we get into together? Is there someone working at a national publication that you want me to chat with here on the podcast?

RDRealTalk@Gmail.com <-- Inbox always open.

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Leanne Ray is a dietitian in the Denver area, currently working in corporate wellness and public health. When she first learned the concepts of intuitive eating in grad school, she was interested, but not convinced. In fact, she went on to write her thesis on how IE could be used for weight management.

Now, she's studying and practicing intuitive eating as it's meant to be—helping change the culture of her workplace, and change the norms of corporate wellness (which is very weight-centric).

She's also about to launch her own business, full time, so check out leanneray.com to learn more!

This episode is sponsored by Whitney Bateson's Digital Strategy services for dietitians! Learn more about her services and book your free consult at whitneybateson.com/rdrealtalk.

Starting July 9: Fit Fueling—an e-course that combines intuitive eating practices with sports nutrition for active women

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Steph Saullo has been on the show before, but this time we dive into her personal story, how she recovered from disordered eating, and why she cautions some people from studying nutrition. By degree, she is an aerospace engineer. But in a phase of disordered eating and food obsession, she got graduate degree and completed her dietetic internship to become a registered dietitian. She shares how she went through recovery, what she learned during pregnancy, how this has shaped her work, and what she's working on now!

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Meme Inge, dietitian and cookbook author (!!) joins me on the show today. We go through all the nitty gritty details of how her career has evolved. She's a food blogger, and self-published a cookbook of GASP southern, traditional, family meals. And it's great. But as a "recovering perfectionist", it was a long road for her to get here. That road involved learning, and then relearning, the concepts of intuitive eating, body respect, and food freedom. It involved taking a step back and thinking about what kind of life she could have, and what kind of cookbook she could publish, if diet culture wasn't at the wheel.

I LOVE talking with Meme, and hope you'll love hearing her story.

Find her work and her recipes (and cookbook!) at memeinge.com, or follow along on social media, @MemeInge

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Amy Hanneke is in her first dietetics job, working in clinical as the only RD on staff in a rural hospital. She went through her own process of unlearning diet culture, dealing with an IBS diagnosis, and working with a dietitian, experiencing the client side of things. Now, she's proudly using the concepts of HAES and Intuitive Eating in her work, and proving that MNT and these paradigms are far from mutually exclusive.

Learn more about Amy and her work: satisfy-nutrition.com

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Christine Ellerbrock is a second-career dietitian, toddler mom, currently working a few jobs in various clinical settings. We dive right into how eating intuitively has saved us in the postpartum days, why honoring hunger is a key aspect of un-learning diet culture, and what calorie equations even mean (or what they were intended for).

Christine keeps it real about the little things she still struggles with from time to time, how she recovered from disordered eating in college, and how she incorporates these IE and HAES concepts in creative ways with her clinical and corporate wellness clients.

Book she mentioned on mindful eating: Eating Mindfully, by Susan Albers

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Sarah Anzlovar joins me on the show to talk about her journey to being a second-career dietitian, and adopting Intuitive Eating in her career. When she decided to study nutrition, she believed dietitians might have to look at certain way in order to be taken seriously. She had to unlearn this, and embrace intuitive eating, to become the dietitian she is today.

We talk about her various career moves and how she's landed where she is today, with a new private practice and a job she enjoys. We talk about what makes us feel like we aren't "good" at counseling, when really, it's that we don't believe in spreading diet culture. And we talk about undoing assumptions about appearance, and exercise identity.

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Sarah Anzlovar joins me on the show to talk about her journey to being a second-career dietitian, and adopting Intuitive Eating in her career. When she decided to study nutrition, she believed dietitians might have to look at certain way in order to be taken seriously. She had to unlearn this, and embrace intuitive eating, to become the dietitian she is today.

We talk about her various career moves and how she's landed where she is today, with a new private practice and a job she enjoys. We talk about what makes us feel like we aren't "good" at counseling, when really, it's that we don't believe in spreading diet culture. And we talk about undoing assumptions about appearance, and exercise identity.

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

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Monica Milonovich is a dietitian and professor at University of Texas at Austin. She teaches Medical Nutrition Therapy (MNT) to the UT Austin dietetic students, and also works with the dietetic interns. Last year, one of her students* asked to present on Intuitive Eating and Health at Every Size, and Monica agreed without knowing what she was in for. That presentation left her feeling uncomfortable, curious, and ready to change.

*If you listened to the previous episode, featuring Lauren Newman, one of the current dietetic interns at UT Austin, you're now hearing the other side of the story!

Monica is working hard to expand her nutrition practices to embrace this weight-neutral, non-diet approach, and is hoping to change the UT Austin didactic programming to include this.

With this episode, I hope you might feel inspired to explore these concepts and see how they can work with your nutrition career, and/or present these topics to your professor, colleagues, or peers who may be new to all of the above.

Resources and reads mentioned:

Hunger, by Roxanne Gray
Intuitive Eating: A revolutionary way that works
Intuitive Eating Workbook
Health at Every Size
Body Kindness

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

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Monica Milonovich is a dietitian and professor at University of Texas at Austin. She teaches Medical Nutrition Therapy (MNT) to the UT Austin dietetic students, and also works with the dietetic interns. Last year, one of her students* asked to present on Intuitive Eating and Health at Every Size, and Monica agreed without knowing what she was in for. That presentation left her feeling uncomfortable, curious, and ready to change.

*If you listened to the previous episode, featuring Lauren Newman, one of the current dietetic interns at UT Austin, you're now hearing the other side of the story!

Monica is working hard to expand her nutrition practices to embrace this weight-neutral, non-diet approach, and is hoping to change the UT Austin didactic programming to include this.

With this episode, I hope you might feel inspired to explore these concepts and see how they can work with your nutrition career, and/or present these topics to your professor, colleagues, or peers who may be new to all of the above.

Resources and reads mentioned:

Hunger, by Roxanne Gray
Intuitive Eating: A revolutionary way that works
Intuitive Eating Workbook
Health at Every Size
Body Kindness

Questions or requests for the show? Reach out: RDRealTalk @ Gmail.com

Have you left a review on iTunes yet? If not, please do! Click here and tap the stars.

Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

Want to work together? Book your appointment!

And, last but not least, the Patreon page! Support RD Real Talk, and get access to the now-exclusive coaching episodes, by supporting the show. You can start with $1!

Lauren Newman is what we in the dietetic world call an "RD2Be". She's completing a Coordinated program at UT Austin, and will be joining us with her RD certification soon.

She is part of a Facebook group for new and aspiring dietitians who are interested in intuitive eating (IE) and Health at Every Size (HAES). I reached out to her after she posted about something big; she gave a presentation on Intuitive Eating and HAES in her Medical Nutrition Therapy (MNT) class.

Baller move.

In this first IE Stories episode, we get real about the initial assumptions Lauren had about these philosophies. She tried hard to prove them wrong, to stay in the weight-based world of nutrition that she believed to be true, to "fight" the so-called obesity epidemic! Then we talk about the Big Nutrition Goal she has for her career, and the work it will take to get there.

Find more about Lauren on her site, laurennewmanrd2be.com, or via Instagram @gofeedyourself_.

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For more information about this series, and my work, visit HeatherCaplan.com or follow along @HeatherDCRD on Twitter, @RDRealTalk on Instagram, and Facebook.

Register for my online course with dietitian Kelly Jones, Fit Fueling: Mindful and Intuitive Eating for Active Women. The next class starts in July!

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A solo, quick episode to catch up on a few things! I'll leave it at that, since you may finish listening before you finish reading this.

Links to the things:

Strength Running Podcast episode with Jason Fitzgerald
Fit Fueling course with Kelly Jones MS RD CSSD (next round starts in July!)
HeartSpace podcast with Corinne Dobbas
Yes, I'm saying drink the beer (and I'll join you! Cheers!)
The "Green Light" to exercise postpartum comes with an asterisk (or it should!)

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Are you new to Intuitive Eating? Listen to my 10-episode Intuitive Eating series, which dives into each of the 10 principles.

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This RD Real Talk coaching call focuses on how to lose the comfort of structure in our approach to counseling and incorporate intuitive eating into her practice. It's not easy to do, but we all start somewhere!

We talk about nutrition counseling, starting a private practice, practice IE principles in life and work, and how to approach clients who need Medical Nutrition Therapy.

For resources, visit my Intuitive Eating Podcast page. If you're interested in having a career coaching or mentoring call like this one, reach out me using the email provided below!

Register for my online course with dietitian Kelly Jones, Fit Fueling: Mindful and Intuitive Eating for Active Women. The next class starts soon!

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This is the first RD Real Talk coaching episode! These coaching episodes are an extension of the Intuitive Eating series, exploring the concepts with listeners who reached out and agreed to have a one-on-one recorded session. (All personal details are kept anonymous.)

In this coaching episode:

A dietitian is about to switch jobs and will now have a new schedule, and will be able to step away from weight-loss work. She's realizing that the diet mentality has a stronghold on her approach to nutrition. She dabbled in weight loss for her wedding, and wrapped much her of dietitian identity up in certain healthy eating practices and messages. She's curious about intuitive eating, but struggling with how to implement the principles for herself.

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Since we started the Intuitive Eating series, you've asked a LOT of questions and I love it. Be curious! Be skeptical! Be aware of what's holding you back! In this episode I take the general version of questions I've received from listeners, and invite you to answer an important prompt.

Questions and resources listed below!

If I feel full after a meal, but then hungry an hour later, what went wrong? What is there to learn, "nutritionally"?
Can I follow a food/meal plan and eat intuitively?
What should I know about Intermittent Fasting and IE?
My schedule is not my own! How do I eat when I'm hungry if I can't control when my meals happen?
What resources exist for combining Sports Nutrition and IE?

A few resources:

Episode with Lindsey Stenovec on "Gentle Nutrition"
Episode with Christy Harrison re: Intermittent Fasting
Virtual Course: Fit Fueling for Active Women
Learning to eat again: Intuitive eating practices among retired female collegiate athletes
Testing the Acceptance Model of Intuitive Eating with College Women Athletes
10 Principles of Intuitive Eating

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Lindsay Stenovec, dietitian and host of The Nurtured Mama podcast, joins me to talk about the tenth principle of Intuitive Eating. At the end, nutrition is brought back into the picture! This book was authored by two dietitians, after all.

Lindsay and I talk about why it's important that nutrition is taken OFF the table while clients work on eating intuitively. Diet culture has hijacked our thoughts around nutrition, making it nearly impossible to feel "good" about eating anything but fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. Orthorexia, an eating disorder defined by an unhealthy fixation on eating healthy foods, is an eating disorder that's hard for some people to even recognize. Dieting is the norm.

In this episode, we hope to help you understand why it's OK—healthy, even—to put nutrition thoughts away while you work on other aspects of Intuitive eating, including self-trust and self-awareness. And it's OK to be interested in nutrition again, eventually.

Lindsay's work and Nurtured Mama community can be found on her website, nutritioninstincts.com .

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Robyn Nohling, dietitian and Family Nurse Practitioner, is one of my favorite gals to chat with about all things intuitive eating. She has written about the ways in which she shifted her approach to exercise on her blog, The Real Life RD. We have both trained for endurance running events, and think of exercise a little differently now that we do work in this space. We also both work with women recovering from Hypothalamic Amenorrhea (HA), during which exercise may have to take a back seat, or be stopped entirely. We dive into what it means to enjoy exercise, feeling the difference between exercising for the psychological benefits instead of in hopes of physical changes.

Our culture’s obsession with suffering and powering through workouts in order to “gain” fitness or prove that you’re strong shapes doesn’t foster “health” in every sense. Listen to this episode to step back and take a hard look at your habits and patterns with exercise, and try to keep an open mind to approaching it with a little more self-awareness and care.

Robyn’s work and services: thereallife-rd.com

2 CEU Webinar for RDs mentioned in our conversation: How to Take the Anti-Diet Approach to Your Dietetics Career

10 principles of Intuitive Eating

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Tracy Brown, dietitian and body image coach, joins me to talk about the eighth principle of Intuitive Eating—Respect Your Body. We dive into what it means to respect, versus love (or hate) the shape, size, and feel of your body. Tracy had a unique road to becoming a dietitian, and started doing this work long before the anti-diet movement as we know it today. (Thank you, Tracy!)

Mentioned on the show, Tracy's book pick for all women listening: When Women Stop Hating Their Bodies

This recording came at a unique time for me–my third trimester of pregnancy—and carries lessons anyone can use during any stage of life.

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Jennifer Rollin, MSW LCSW-C and eating disorder specialist, joins me to talk about the spectrum of emotional eating. The seventh principle of Intuitive Eating addresses the times in life when we may try to numb emotions with food, or feel emotions because of food. We talk about personality traits, learning to recognize emotions, and our physiological responses to psychological stress.

Jennifer's work can be found on her site: jenniferrollin.com. She also writes about the anti-diet movement, and eating disorder recovery, for the Huffington Post. She also has a series of webinars, found here.

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Register for the EDRDPro Symposium for 12 CEUs and information from 12 Eating Disorder experts! The symposium starts March 1, 2018.

And, register for the Fit Fueling: Mindful and Intuitive Eating for Active Women. The next online course starts soon!

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Paige Smathers, dietitian and host of the podcast Nutrition Matters, joins me to dive into the sixth principle of Intuitive Eating. Satisfaction is different than satiety, but it can take some time to identify their unique qualities. Our diet-focused culture has a hard time with satisfaction, as it implies feeling pleasure in your food experiences. Our clients have struggled with this principle, as it requires coming to peace with our food preferences and cravings.

Links we talk about on the episode:

Don't Let Trader Joe's Make You Feel Guilty About Eating

Paige's podcast episode about Intuitive Eating

10 Principles of Intuitive Eating

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Kim Hoban, a certified Intuitive Eating (IE) counselor and good RD friend of mine, is on the show to help me cover IE principle 5. Feeling fullness isn't as, well, intuitive, as you might think. But when most people think about IE, they think it's just about "eating when you're hungry and stopping when you're full." So, we finally get to chat about the second half of that assumption.

We talk about why fullness isn't introduced until you're already halfway through the 10 IE principles, and what it means to FEEL full versus satisfied. (More on that next week!) To be honest, we both see a lot of clients use fullness as an excuse to restrict their intake, or misunderstand the sensation entirely. We get real about that.

This is also a big conversation topic in the virtual course I lead for active women on combining sports nutrition and intuitive eating—fullness is something many athletes shy away from. If you want to learn more about the course, Fit Fueling, and these concepts, register for our next course here! (Starts Monday, March 5)

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Emily Fonnesbeck joins me to talk about an Intuitive Eating (IE) principle that is challenging for many people—#4 how to challenge the food police.

We review the various types of Food Police that may be directing traffic in your mind on any given day–from the Ally to the Informant—and how to start distinguishing the foes from the friend. Food police may be most familiar to those who have had an eating disorder. The voices sound a lot like an example provided by Dr. Laura Hill in her TEDx talk on anorexia. Even in the absence of an eating disorder, diet culture employs food policing thoughts that influence how we eat throughout the day.

In the episode, we emphasize that restrictive eating is NOT healthy eating, and that not everyone obsesses over food. It is possible to go throughout your day without these food policing thoughts and internal debates.

Check out more of Emily's writing and work on her site: EmilyFonnesbeck.com

Next up: Kim Hoban, and principle #5: How to respect your fullness!

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Julie Duffy Dillon, aka the Food Peace RD, joins me to discuss Intuitive Eating (IE) Principle #3: Make Peace With Food. All foods! Not just the healthy, or "fun", foods.

We start by outlining what's called "The Last Supper Phenomenon" of dieting. This sets everyone up for failure, yet we see it happen so often. It's just one factor that pulls your dieting pendulum too far to one side, so it will inevitably swing right back.

Julie and I dig into the importance of making peace with all foods, how this concept is largely misunderstood, and what steps anyone can take to start the process. As Julie says, EVERY food has its place, and anything can be unhealthy for us in excess. (Yep, even broccoli!)

Next up: Dietitian Emily Fonnesbeck and I review Principle #5, asking you to Challenge the Food Police.

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Jennifer McGurk joins me to discuss Intuitive Eating principle #2: Honoring Your Hunger. At the time of recording, I was pregnant and she had just given birth, so we start with some real talk about the IE lessons these experiences will teach you! If you decide to skip ahead, we get into the principle and how it's essential to intuitive eating. It's also essential to have acknowledged your diet mentality, and put any goals of weight loss (or "management" aside) in order to really hear and heed your body's hunger signals.

Jennifer is an eating disorder specialist, so part of our conversation touches on how this principle is used for eating disorder treatment, when appropriate.

Check out Jennifer's work and resources on her site: EatwithKnowledge.com

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Stay tuned to learn about principle #3 (Make Peace With Food) next, with Julie Duffy Dillon!

Sumner Brooks, an eating disorder dietitian and founder of EDRDpro, joins me to discuss the first principle of Intuitive Eating, Rejecting the Diet Mentality. As long as the diet mentality is prioritized—or as Sumner puts it, we make food decisions based on the outcome expected—it will be nearly impossible to eat intuitively.

ETA: There seems to have been an issue with the audio recording, so Sumner's voice sounds a little off. Technology isn't always our best friend. :)

While listening to this episode, think about your own diet mentality and what drives the food choices you make every day. Are you avoiding or working toward a certain outcome (e.g. weight, "health", or something else)? Or are you trying to tune into your body's signals of hunger, fullness, satisfaction, etc? (More on all of that to come!)

It may be uncomfortable to realize that even though you may not be following a "diet," there are still many filters, or rules, by which you make food decisions. We know how that feels. We've been there. Stick with us.

We give examples of the various levels of diet thinking, and how to work through this principle to bring yourself some food freedom. It helps you build the foundation on which you'll continue to build your intuitive eating habits throughout this series.

Questions? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com.

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Follow Sumner's work on EDRDpro.com, and sign up for her upcoming EDRDPro Symposium.

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Now is not the time to start a new diet, or "get back on track"—neither is tomorrow, nor the day after that. It won't work. But we have something else for you, that just might save your sanity.

Introducing: RD Real Talk's first series, on Intuitive Eating.

Evelyn Tribole, MS RD is the co-author of the book Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program That Works. It is NOT a diet; it is not an eating plan; it is not a set of nutrition rules. And it is not simply eating when you're hungry, and stopping when you're full.

Evelyn helps me kick off a 10-episode series on Intuitive Eating (IE), in which I cover each of the 10 principles with fellow dietitians and therapists. She takes us back to 1995, when the book was first published, and how she and her co-author, Elyse Resch, finally decided enough was enough. No more putting clients on diets, no more weight loss plans, no more pretending that either of these things "work" for people. They questioned and challenged traditional dietetic practices, found the research to support their paradigm, and put it out to the world.

She's NOT into this whole "clean eating" movement, wonders when taking pride in the way we eat became important to our identities (a la Orthorexia), and indulges a burning question I had about her Olympic Trials Marathon run (🤓).

I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did, and can't wait to share the rest of the IE series with you! Stay tuned.

Questions? Check out the series page on my website: heathercaplan.com . Subscribe to the weekly newsletter. And reach out via email anytime!

Twitter: @heatherdcRD

Instagram: @RDRealTalk

Interested in the EDRDPro Symposium? Sign up for details by clicking here!

Abby Langer, Toronto-based dietitian and real talker, joins me to review the worst diets of 2017. (See also: All diets.) Abby will hand it to you straight, no chaser, EVERY TIME. I love her writing, her videos, her Diet Reviews, and the way she was up to do this podcast with me, no hesitation whatsoever. We talk about everything from companies that have threatened to (try to) take away her credentials to why the Whole30 persists, year after year. (SMH.)

Join us for a final RD Real Talk episode de 2017! Fair warning: this episode is explicit, because how can it not be? We're talking about fad diets.

Abby's 2017 Diet Review

The Halloween Candy Article (must read)

6 Dietitians Share how Motherhood has Changed the way They Eat (Abby is featured)

Coming oh-so-SOON: The first RD Real Talk series! An 11-episode series diving into Intuitive Eating, that starts with one of the book's authors, Evelyn Tribole. Check out the series page on my website, and let me know if you have any questions before we get started!

Emily Braaten, a fellow DC-based dietitian, is on the show today! She recently launched her new, official RD website, and walks us through the process. (Side note: I think she should add "website consultant" to her list of services.) (Also: This is not sponsored by Squarespace.) We talk about the difficulties of getting into the internship, why she chose to get a Master's degree, and how she landed in her work with Eating Disorders.

Real talk moments: the blissful simplicity of a home-cooked meal after a long moving transition, and NOT being the food police.

Related: I usually don't care what you're eating. (Unsolicited permission to come up with random job titles at your next holiday party.)

Coming soon!

A full RD Real Talk series on Intuitive Eating. We're kicking things off with an introduction episode, in which I got to chat with Evelyn Tribole—one of the Intuitive Eating co-authors. (CAREER HIGH.) Stay tuned on my website and here on the podcast—the series launches in January 2018.

Questions? Comments? Hit me up: @RDRealTalk (Instagram)

Emily Braaten MS RD | RDEmily.com

Corinne Dobbas, registered dietitian and dating coach and real talker, is on the show today! (It was a bit of a surprise for her, but it worked out just fine!) She's not afraid to start any job or business, but once wondered if she wasn't smart enough to be a dietitian. Thankfully, that ultimately didn't hold her back.

Have you felt like you're not ___ enough to do something? Not informed enough to start a business? Not qualified enough to do a job? Not creative enough to start a blog / share your work? Not experienced enough to call yourself a certain type of dietitian, or consultant, or coach? LISTEN: You are, or you will get there, and all you have to do is start.

We talk about her matchmaking days (#realjob), how her career got started and has evolved, and what she's doing next to be true to what she wants from her work.

We talk about imposter syndrome.

We talk about what it means to be a coach versus counselor.

We talk about our relationships.

We talk about our side-turned-full hustles.

We talk about "success" and how we're not here to define that for you.

Questions? Reach out anytime: RDRealTalk at gmail dot com.

corinnedobbas.com, @RDCorinne

Alissa Rumsey—now known for her work in freelance writing, private practice, and as an experienced spokesperson for the Academy—started, and loved, her career in clinical nutrition. During her clinical work, she also started writing, side-hustling, and at the suggestion of her boss (and mentor), applied to become a spokesperson. If you work somewhere for more than a few years, you learn a lot, develop key relationships, and may have an incredible mentor who helps push you in new directions. She may convince you that clinical is the right place to start. (You do you!)

Transition to business and life things:

One key question: How and when do you pay YOURSELF? (We're still not entirely sure.)
How we plan for big things and look ahead
Taking time OFF (fully, 100% off)
Master's Degree or no? (Check out Scholly app!)
What it takes to be a spokesperson for the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (and why dietitians should consider it)
...and...WTH is an Instagram pod?

Resounding theme: FIND YOUR PEOPLE.

Resource:
Amy Gorin's article on getting into freelance writing (RDLounge.com)

alissarumsey.com, @AlissaRumseyRD

Click here for Alissa's Dietitian Mastermind Retreat information.

Kelly Jones, MS RD CSSD, is my friend and co-host of our Fit Fueling: Mindful Eating for Active women course. We get REAL about why we decided to create and run this virtual nutrition class, and it has to do with disordered eating among active humans (not just women, but we do primarily work with women). We've both had personal experiences that taught us a lot about sports nutrition, and eventually found intuitive and mindful eating practices. The two may seem like opposite ends of the spectrum, but we think they have to meet somewhere in the middle to keep us all sane, well-fueled, and healthy.

Our next virtual course starts Monday, November 27 -- Register to join us! (Or visit kellyjonesnutrition.com/fit-fueling for more information.) This course is enjoyed by active women in a variety of sports (or no sport!) and RDs alike.

Purchase one of the RD Real Talk Webinars: heathercaplan.com/events
(Available NOW: How to Navigate Your Nontraditional Nutrition Career & How to Incorporate Intuitive Eating in Eating Disorder Recovery)

Apply for the free 1:1 coaching episodes coming soon by subscribing to the newsletter (heathercaplan.com)!

And check out the resources mentioned in the show:

Lane 9 Project (raising awareness of the Female Athlete Triad)
Fit Fueling for the Fitness-Obsessed Female (you don't have to be an "athlete" to take the course!)
Why we don't want you to restrict anything before or after your race
Intuitive Eating for Active Clients (RD Lounge)
10 Principles of Intuitive Eating
Fit Fueling Course Information
Denying the Female Athlete Triad (personal story)

Kelly Jones: KellyJonesNutrition.com @KellyJonesRD

Rachael Hartley joins the show from South Carolina this week! She's fka Avocado a Day Nutrition, but changed her mind and rebranded this year. It happens! It's OK. She also started her private practice after changing her mind about her career path in clinical. It happens! She's succeeding on her own terms.

Mentioned in the intro:

A 10-part Intuitive Eating (IE) series coming to the podcast in January 2018!
Free (!) 1:1 IE coaching calls application open now, for you. Apply here (with no obligation), and see if we'll be a good fit!
How to Navigate Your Nontraditional Nutrition Career Path - register to watch the webinar now!

We get real about some of those early business moments, candy eating, and transitioning into a non-diet approach.

We answer a listener question about "bouncing around" in the clinical space, which could be applicable to anyone wanting to change career paths and, well, bounce around a bit. And we talk about "Diet Avocados" coming to a grocery store near you. (HALP.)

Rachael is a panelist on the upcoming Women's Health RD Real Talk Webinar. Click here to register early to get a 1:1 mentoring call, and submit questions to the panel of RD experts!

Rachael Hartley RD - rachaelhartleynutrition.com

Deanna Segrave-Daly is on the show this week! She's been an entrepreneur for almost a decade, after starting her nutrition career in communications and with a double-major in Marketing. You may know her from her work with Blog Brulee, The Recipe Redux, Teaspoon Communications, or Healthy Aperture. Even if you haven't heard of any of those, don't take gorgeous food photos (hand-raised), and aren't in the nutrition field, Deanna's advice will apply to you.

Curious about this nontraditional nutrition career path? Click to watch the RD Real Talk Webinar on how to navigate your nontraditional nutrition career! (HeatherCaplan.com/Events)

Deanna reminds us that we don't have to go at this alone, we don't have to pick ONE specialty, and we certainly don't have to be great at writing to be a blogger or communications RD.

More coming up on RD Real Talk: A 10-part Intuitive Eating series, which will be followed by 1:1 coaching episodes. Interested? Apply here! (https://goo.gl/6E3CnX)

Deanna Segrave-Daly | teaspoonofspice.com @tspbasil

Angie Hasmann, program director for the University of Virginia Health System Dietetic Internship, is on the show today! If you're into a choose-your-adventure type of program, she's your gal. Also, we could all take a tip from the way she went about getting her first job. BOLD. And I like it. In addition to directing the UVA internship, she's a boss dietitian in a clinical setting. Oh, then we dive into bariatric surgery and how one study suggests this "weight loss surgery" is linked to "lower risk of cancer."

Bonus: She adds job-searching and resume crafting tips, helping us all out as we navigate this career world.

And the other stuff:

(Click to) Register for the RD Round Table webinar going live next week: Job Searching, Networking, and Navigating Your Nontraditional Nutrition Career
Subscribe to the weekly RD Real Talk newsletter to apply for an upcoming (free!) 1:1 Intuitive Eating coaching series

In the news:

Weight loss surgery linked to lower risk of cancer

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Rebecca Scritchfield is back! You may know her as the author of Body Kindness, one of your favorite (self-described) Diet Culture Dropouts, or the host of the Body Kindness podcast. Or, you may not know her yet, but you will now! Rebecca and I go way back, so it's easy to settle in and get real with each other.

Interested in the Anti-Diet Approach to Dietetics? Watch this one-hour webinar to learn more! With full registration, you also get a 1:1 mentoring call and an event workbook with research and suggested readings.

I ask her about:

How and why she transitioned her sports-focused private practice in DC to one in which she teaches the Non-Diet (or Anti-Diet) approach and works with eating disorders and body image therapy
The process of writing a book (!!!), and what to do with that stack of edits that reminds you to keep at it
Her new mentorship program available to any and all dietitians (or RDs2be) that want to practice the Anti-Diet (or Non-Diet) approach to dietetics -- applications are due 10/31! Put in yours here: bodykindnessbook.com/learnandgrow

If you're a dietitian for Body Kindness, join Rebecca's group, in partnership with Leslie Shilling, RD4BC.

Rebecca Scritchfield, MA RD | @ScritchfieldRD on Twitter, @RebeccaScritchfield on Instagram

bodykindnessbook.com

Amy Shen, a freshly minted RD, joins the show from South Carolina! The conversation gets real very quickly, when she dives into how dieting in college made her feel crazy, and led to a career in nutrition. Because of that, she now identifies as an anti-diet dietitian. She's learning about and practicing intuitive eating, and working her first job in an Eating Disorder treatment center.

If you're interested in the Anti-Diet Approach, purchase the "Dietitians Taking the Anti-Diet Approach" webinar! Panelists include Christy Harrison, Robyn Nohling, Anne Mauney, and Kim Hoban. HeatherCaplan.com/Events

We dive into in internship experience, anti-diet nutrition, and a new app in the world for helping Eating Disorder patients get (free!) help before or after they reach out to a healthcare professional. (App: Recovery Record: Eating Disorder Management)

Amy Shen | amybethshen.com @Amy.Beth.Shen on Instagram

Rebecca Scritchfield, dietitian and author of the book Body Kindness, is on the show! We go way back, as DC dietitians, to my first exposure to private practice and being her first dietetic intern (circa 2009). This episode is REAL real, covering everything from business ventures that actually cost money to running a "surprisingly low-tech" private practice. We talk about her transition to her second career in dietetics, answer a listener question (below) and get real about our big projects and transitions.

BIG project: Rebecca just launched her extensive mentorship program, which we chat about on the show. Applications are due by 10/31! She'll be working with a small group (only 6-8) RDs to develop anti-diet and weight-neutral counseling and dietetic skills. Apply here: http://www.bodykindnessbook.com/learnandgrow/

Listener Question:

I am a RD working in the public health/community nutrition field. I love what I do! However, during grad school I was exposed to sports nutrition which included counseling and team education. I would like this to be my "side hustle". What are your must-have resources for those of us who are trying to start a private practice? Any software, books, budgeting, marketing tools, printing options, etc you recommend?

Events for RDs: Check out the RD Real Talk Round Table series, which launched this month with 5 events and covering everything from the Anti-diet approach to Women's Health to Job Searching in Nutrition. No deadlines to register, and seats are still open! (HeatherCaplan.com/Events)

Rebecca Scritchfield, MS RD: @ScritchfieldRD (Twitter, Instagram)
Body Kindness podcast host, Body Kindness book author

BodyKindnessBook.com

Anne Mauney, aka Fannetastic Food, is back on the podcast! She’s also joining me as a panelist for the first RD Real Talk Round Table event, Dietitians Taking the Anti-Diet Approach. To register for the event, go to heathercaplan.com/events

We chat about how she decided to start her private practice as an anti-diet dietitian right away, what resources she has found invaluable in developing her practices, and—to keep it real—some mistakes she has made along the way. We also share a real-talk-moment about the diet-y things we used to recommend. Oof.

She advocates for having mentors and a mastermind group to feel supported as you this on. For starters? Our panel discussion, with fellow anti-diet dietitians, Christy Harrison, Kim Hoban, and Robyn Nohling.

Links mentioned on the show:

Kim Hoban’s post about the event, “An Apology”
Robyn Nohling’s announcement, “Round Table Talk with RDs on Intuitive Eating and HAES”
Molly Kellog’s Motivational Interviewing training(s)

Amy LaFalce, a fellow Arlington-based dietitian, is on today! She's the Northern Virginia Site Director for the Virginia Tech Dietetic Internship and mom of three kiddos. She's open and real about what internship directors are looking for in candidates, her goals for the VT program, and some BIG changes coming up to internship education requirements. (Hi, Master's degree.)

We answer two listener questions:

What to expect in the DI interview process

(If you're currently a dietetic intern, or thinking about the internship, check out the internship-specific RD Real Talk Round Table event coming up soon! The panel discussion, 1:1 mentoring call, and event workbook may be exactly what you need. HeatherCaplan.com/Events)

What RDs think about sugar detoxes

So, we switch gears a bit to the latest in whether or not "sugar addiction" is a real thing. (Side eye to you, Gary Taubes.) Here's the article referenced: Sugar addiction: state of the science.

Kim Hoban, a corporate wellness dietitian and Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, is back to help me bring you more information about the RD Real Talk Round Table series! She's got a VIP seat at the table, as a panelist for the first event, Dietitians Taking an Anti-Diet Approach. In this mini-sode, we chat about how she adopted the anti-diet approach, how it's been integral to her nutrition career, and how our profession can stick together despite opposing views.

To save your seat at the table: Register here!

(You can buy one seat for one event, a listen-only option, or a package of events!)

To follow Kim and her work: @KimHobanRD (Twitter, Instagram) and KHNutrition.com

Janet Helm joins the show from Chicago! She's the Chief Food and Nutrition Strategist at Weber Shandwick. You may know her from her work in starting the Nutrition Blog Network, and of course, through all things PR.

Recently, she published a blog post on her site, Nutrition Unplugged, titled "United We Stand, Divided We Fall as Dietitians". She addresses the public squabbles that have happened amongst RDs and why she thinks it must stop if we want to salvage our credibility and professional integrity. So, we talk about THAT.

Thoughts or comments from the show? Email RDRealTalk at Gmail dot com. Let's chat.

Janet will be speaking at FNCE next month, too! Catch her and a Google Exec. covering "Second Century Communication Tools for Dietitians" on Tuesday, October 24th.

Links from the show:

United We Stand, Divided We Fall as Dietitians
True Health Initiative
Nutrition Blog Network

Janet Helm: NutritionUnplugged.com, @JanetHelm (Twitter)

Katie Proctor, RDN and MBA, is on the show today! She joins us from Colorado, where she started her own business to help BA dietitians raise the bar. She's a marketing and communications guru, and took many nontraditional RDN job routes. She's real about easy is it to provide tips but how hard it can be to follow them yourself. We talk a lot about being an entrepreneur, connecting with brands and consumers through social media, and of course, real talk moments.

RD Real Talk Round Table announcement! Check out the RD Real Talk weekly newsletter for first dibs on promotions, and the new events page to register: heathercaplan.com/events

First up: Dietitians Taking the Anti-Diet Approach (10/5/17)
Featuring Anne Mauney (Fannetastic Food), Christy Harrison (Food Psych host), Kim Hoban (KH Nutrition), and Robyn Nohling (Real Life RD)

Listener question: With social media being so over saturated with various nutrition/ wellness accounts, how do you make yourself stand out?

Katie provides a totally different perspective on this one, which I learned so much from! She's been on the marketing side, working with influencers (including dietitians) What do they look for and how can you catch their eye? She's on it.

If you do nothing else after this episode, follow her on Instagram! You get almost daily business tips and get to connect with a real-talking business strategist. It's good stuff.

Katie Proctor: elevatewithkatie.com | @elevatewithkatie (Twitter and Instagram)

Sara Haas, a culinary dietitian based out of Chicago, is on the show today! She just announced her first cookbook, in partnership with Elizabeth Shaw (episode 18), a recipe collection for fertility! Sara shares why she selected her internship of choice, gets real about her first job, and explains both why she chose to pursue culinary training and how she got into media and freelance work.

In the intro, you’ll hear about a new project I’m launching with RDs who have been on this podcast! Subscribe to the RD Real Talk newsletter (link in the @RDRealTalk Instagram profile) for first dibs on the details next week.

Listener question: What do you wish you knew as an undergrad studying nutrition?

Career questions: How do you build a career as a spokesperson? Recipe developer? Freelance writer? What inspired a Fertility Foods cookbook?

Fun fact: She’s speaking at FNCE, 2017! Check out her session here.

Sara Haas, RDN @cookinRD (Twitter and Instagram) | sarahaasrdn.com

Molly Goodson is here! She's not a registered dietitian. She's the founder of The Assembly in San Francisco, a space for women to work, workout, and connect. She used to be my boss (in the days of Spright), but is also a good friend, one of my favorite San Francisco people, and former podcast co-host. This is essentially a happy hour conversation, recorded. We have a lot to catch up on! (My wine glass is empty for this round.)

In conversation:

You may or may not remember Logan Paul
THE ASSEMBLY (check it out if you're in SF!)
"Why we fell for clean eating"
How things change (for us) in two years

Molly's stuff: @mollygoodson (Twitter), @theassemblysf (Instagram)

Marci Evans joined me for a chat about all things eating disorder (ED) and intuitive eating! She is a Certified Eating Disorder dietitian (CEDRD) and certified Intuitive Eating counselor, and she has created numerous resources for dietitians interested in ED nutrition therapy. Fun fact: Marci matched with her last choice internship. It happens! I have followed her career for years, and have learned so much from her work. She’s an innovator, educator, mentor, and real talker.

Our real talk moments: Burger grilling and Bone marrow testing

Career chat:

Not all dietetic jobs are represented in the internship!
How to become a CEDRD
How to become a certified Intuitive Eating counselor
Marci’s resources for dietitians and dietetic interns:
- Quiz: Is Eating Disorders Work a fit for me?
- The Dietitian’s Guide to Where to Go for Eating Disorder Training

Listener questions:

What are some guidelines that I (and others in my position, i.e. not a credentialed healthcare provider) should follow for sharing experiences {in ED or amenorrhea recovery} while not crossing an ethical boundary?
Can you talk about the intersection of GI issues and ED recovery?

Marci Evans, RDN CEDRD CPT | MarciRD.com @MarciRD (Twitter and Instagram)

Sarah Schlichter, aka Bucket List Tummy (BLT!), is on the show today. She joins me from Charlotte, NC, where she puts her RDN MPH to good work. Sarah is a second-career dietitian, representing the working-gal-gone-intern crew. We cover her career path to becoming a dietitian, skills she has carried from each of her jobs, and how she built her BLT brand. We answer two listener questions:

How do you know if you’re settling for a (or your first) job versus making a realistic life decision (we gotta get paid, y'all)?
How do you build a brand and stand out amongst the MANY nutrition voices online today? (Repeat!)

In the news:

Soybean oil gets the “Heart Healthy Label” approval from FDA

Sarah Schlichter, MPH RD BucketListTummy.com | @BucketListTumRD & @BucketListTummy_RD

Emily Wetzel joins the show from Chicago! As a contractor with Dietitians on Demand, she wears many dietitian hats. Emily and I chat about the small world of dietetics, which relates to her advice for any and all new dietetic students and interns. We answer two listener questions, then dive into why consumers are more interested in sugar than meat (or cooking with "raw ingredients").

Questions:

1) In my internship, there were only a couple of rotations where I felt RDs were a valued member of the team. What can we do as a profession to change this and make it better for the next generation of dietitians?

2) I know for sure that I want to work in the field of food and nutrition, but I am fairly sure I am not interested in clinical. I'm worried I won't enjoy it at all, and it might trigger past ED behaviors. Should I purse the RD certification?

In the news:

Nearly half of US consumers are trying to reduce the sugar they eat (FoodNavigator)

Younger consumers, however, are more interested in eating less meat. Either way, the top barrier to change is feeling tempted by these foods, and the perceived cost of healthy eating. How can we help?

Emily Wetzel, RD LDN | @HealthyHappy_U

Anne Mauney, better known as Fannetastic Food, is literally in the house today! She joins me IRL, from Arlington, for a podcast chat about business and baby things. We talk about these things regularly anyway, it's just recorded this time.

Anne went back to school to get her RD certification, after a few years exploring a career in journalism, teaching English in Prague, and then tackling science classes. We answer a listener question about "getting into" Intuitive Eating, "when most Dietetic Internships preach the opposite." Mentioned on the show: the Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor training program. One part of our A to that Q: the tide is turning. More RDs and clients are interested in this philosophy. Keep it strong!

Next up: A listener's question about social media, building a professional brand and presence online, and standing out.

Then we transition into pregnancy real talk! We talk intuitive eating, fitness, supplements, and one side effect some people don't talk about. (Get those pre and probiotics in, y'all.)

Questions? Request? Want to join the RD Real Talk newsletter? hdcrd.typeform.com/to/JuJARt

Anne Mauney, fannetasticfood.com | @fannetasticfood (Twitter, Instagram)

Heather Caplan: @HeatherDCRD | @RDRealTalk

Amanda Foti joins the show from NYC! She’s the Director of Growth at Healthie, and also runs a private practice with the Healthie telehealth platform. This episode is a deep dive into telehealth—how to work with clients virtually, legally. We talk about how we got into virtual counseling, startup experiences, and of course, dietetic internship advice.

If you want to give the Healthie platform a try for your private practice (even if it’s just a side hustle!), mention RD Real Talk during registration or use the following link for a $70 discount: http://www.gethealthie.com?afmc=zad

Resources mentioned in the show:

State Telehealth Laws and Reimbursement Policies (compiled by the nonprofit nonpartisan Center for Connected Health Policy)
Healthie
AND’s eatrightPRO Telehealth resources

Amanda Foti, MS RDN | EatFitLive.com and @RD_Eats on Instagram

I announced this week that my husband and I are expecting a tiny human. In this episode, I talk to you about some things I've learned about myself, intuitive eating, and trusting plus accepting my body over the past thirteen weeks. It's a LOT to process, this human-growing thing.

In my post, and on this episode, I'm open about some body changes, mood and emotions, foods, and of course, my history with an eating disorder and amenorrhea. All the things!

This is 100 percent my experience only and I'm sharing it because real talk is my jam. Please note this is just what I'm feeling, experiencing, and learning—not to speak for anyone else (pregnant or otherwise).

Last but not least, some lovely women and resources mentioned:

Kylie Mitchell, @immaeatthat (guest on episodes #8 and #16)
Elizabeth Shaw, of BumpstoBaby.com (guest on episode #18 and a career spotlight)
Announcement: Real Life: About this tiny human

If you have any questions about any of the above, please don't hesitate to reach out to the show's email address (which I mention in all intros) or through my site: heathercaplan.com.

Robyn (Coale) Nohling and I team up to double down on the real talk. Robyn's site, The Real Life RD, is a mix of her nursing and nutrition expertise. We share a passion for talking about amenorrhea, so this conversation became a nerdy fertility deep dive. Robyn shares her opinions and knowledge with a dose of her signature sass. We also cover her internship experience, some amazing career advice, and what the "tickets to health" but actually be. (Spoiler Alert: it's not a cocktail of wellness supplements.)

For topic or subject requests, fill out the RD Real Talk Listener Survey: hdcrd.typeform.com/to/JuJARt

In the conversation:

A little bit about Disney
What happens when you get your 5th choice internship
Career advice we should have all received early on
Amenorrhea and all the things we know, plus many that we don't
Recovery, wellness, and the easiest way(s) to stay "healthy"
Thyroid hormones and what to look for
Coming soon: Robyn's signature screening tool for physicians (!!!)

Robyn Nohling, RDN FNP | www.thereallife-rd.com

Twitter and Instagram: @thereallife_RD

Amaris Bradley joins me in my kitchen! We don't cook anything for you, but we talk a lot about food–specifically yogurt, cupcakes, and indulgent vegetables. Amaris is the Director of Partnerships at Partnership for Healthier America (yes, Michelle Obama's health legacy). I wanted to get her thoughts on the food label changes, and tap into her communications expertise as well. She also enlightens us about how to plan some amazing travels.

In the news:

“Indulgent descriptions” and vegetable consumption
The Delay in Food Label Changes

Elizabeth (Liz) Shaw, of Shaw's Simple Swaps, is on again! This time we talk less about career, more about gut health, tasting ostrich for the first time, calories, and living in Switzerland. We answer a listener question about these so-called "Macros" and put out a light PSA about GMO labeling (or lack thereof).

In the news:

The “huge diet mistake” Americans have made for years, and what one article suggests we do instead. It’s a fascinating history of calories and the woman who got it started.

Referenced in the show: WHO's FAQ on GMOs

Bonus: RD career life in another country

Elizabeth Shaw: shawsimpleswaps.com | @shawsimpleswaps

Sasha Bard Chamberlain joins us from the DMV (DC-MD-VA)! She’s a Nutrition policy and education specialist, a fellow UMD-College Park internship grad, and a “retired” yoga teacher. (We can’t do it all!) She worked with First Lady Michelle Obama on the Let’s Move! campaign, and is now with the USDA NEPB (we explain). She fills me in on another nutrition education program that does teach Intuitive Eating, and how her career eventually landed her in the nutrition world. Then we talk shop about how parenting can get in the way of kids eating intuitively. We also tap into her expertise—what does the recent news about school nutrition guidelines actually mean?

In the news:

An article on giving kids nutrition structure and family meals (we have thoughts)
What the Trump administration has in store for school nutrition

And also: the best eats in Thailand, a small Instagram dilemma, and review of evolving nutrition philosophies.

Sasha Bard Chamberlain: Instagram @eggsandavocados, Twitter @SashaBaRD

Kylie Mitchell is baaaack! You may know her as ImmaEATthat, on instagram and through her Eating Disorder (ED) recovery blog (immaeatthat.com). We talk about her new pregnancy feels, body changes, and how that first trimester has felt for her. (She also has some thoughts on pregnancy books, and which ones may not be worth a read.) We answer a listener’s question, cover some news in the ED world, and Kylie gets real about why she originally started posting recipes to her blog. Bonus: Some well thought-out ideas on how to revamp the dietetic internship experience. It involves less Jell-o and more Netflix.

BTW, have you taken the RD Real Talk Listener Survey? I want to know what you want more (or less) of on the show! Take it---> hdcrd.typeform.com/to/JuJARt (Thanks!)

Listener question: How are stress, amenorrhea, and moodiness related? (The negative loop of emotions is something I’ve experienced, as well.)

Resource plugs: Kylie’s site, the nonprofit I started in DC called the Lane 9 Project, and Robyn Coale’s Real Life RD.

In the news:

A genomic study of anorexia nervosa—how much of an ED is nature vs. nurture?

Kylie Mitchell: @immaeatthat (Twitter and Instagram), immaeatthat.com

Christy Harrison, host of the popular Food Psych podcast, is on the show today! She talks us through the maze of her career, how she eventually went from journalism to registered dietitian, and discovered the world of eating disorder treatment. As always, Christy is refreshingly open and honest about her ED history and how it has influenced her career, now helping her help others. We dive into some hot topics, from food (and other) politics to the ever-present intermittent fasting fad.

In the news:

We briefly discuss a study that highlights practices from anorexia that could be used for weight loss. Because, WUT?
We discuss intermittent fasting at length—why it’s still a fad, and a recent study done on “metabolically healthy obese adults,” who didn’t need to lose weight in the first place.

Fun fact: Christy does comedy improv in her spare time! Her podcast might not have happened without this unique side-hobby.

Carlene Thomas and her many hats join the show today! She’s an entrepreneur, media maven, and food styling queen. She’s almost solely responsible for my renewed AND membership (we talk about that). She’s also been an inspiration as I start this private practice and join the business-owning RD world.

Real talk (jealous) moment: She did the Vermonster (Ben & Jerry’s ice-cream) challenge with her dietetic internship group. I watched people eat frozen meals during my internship. Not the same.

Carlene walks us through her business’ evolution, from nutrition counseling to food styling and working with the Food Network.“For me, a private practice was the safest choice.” (A rare tale.) Our talk gets inside the the process of prepping for a photo shoot, and the nutrition message she’s sending with her images.

In the news:

Your face is being targeted. How ads are changed to show you what they think you want (e.g. salads for women, sausage pizza for men)

Wasted food, wasted nutrients—could a new approach to food distribution save some of our country’s nutrients?

CSA, Imperfect produce, Hungry Harvest

TED Talk mentioned in the episode: "Teach girls bravery, not perfection"

Carlene Thomas: healthfullyeverafter.co | Twitter: @carleneHEA , Instagram: @healthfullyeverafter

Julie Duffy Dillon, registered dietitian host of the "Love, Food" podcast, is on this week! Her expertise in Intuitive Eating and HAES was a refreshing addition to the Virginia Dietetic meeting a few months ago. I stalked her after her presentation. That worked out well for me! Real talk: this is the stuff that saved my interest in, or passion for, nutrition.

In this episode, we dive into a tough listener question about "disciplined" vs. "disordered" eating, and why you don't need a WHY or weight loss.

ED Resources:

NationalEatingDisorders.Org, International Association of Eating Disorder Professionals (www.iaedp.com), Food Pscyh Podcast (by Christy Harrison), Love, Food podcast (by Julie!), Body Kindness book (by Rebecca Scritchfield).

Julie Duffy Dillon: juliedillonrd.com, Twitter: @foodpeacerdn

Lisa Valente is on the podcast this week! She joins us from Vermont, where she works as EatingWell Media's Digital Nutrition and News Editor. We worked together years ago, so we have a lot to catch up on! In this episode, we skip a news review and instead talk about all of the following.

But first, a survey! Please fill this out if you have one minute to spare: https://hdcrd.typeform.com/to/JuJARt

Why some people shouldn't pursue the RD(N) career path
Why to join a group run when you think you might not want to
How our personal nutrition interests and philosophies have evolved since college
What nutrition fads we're done with (#NoMoreSexWithPantsOn)
How recent research challenges what we were taught in school
What dietitians and freelance writers need to know to get a pitch to publish
What wedding food at a dietitian's wedding looks (and tastes) like (BFD)

Check out Lisa's work at EatingWell through both their print magazine and online posts! Twitter: @LisaDValente

Jess DeGore joins me from Philadelphia today! We both graduated from the Penn State Nutrition program, but somehow missed each other (Jess has one thought on why). She vouches for Outpatient dietitian work and gives some career advice to graduating dietetic interns (if you're listening)! We also dive deeper into hash browns than I knew possible, before we get slightly political about environmentally-friendly food choices.

In the nutrition news:

"When bad things happen to hash browns..."
"Chew on this for Earth Day: How our diet impacts our planet"

Jess DeGore: dietitianjess.com | @dietitian_Jess on Twitter and Instagram

Real talk: I've both under and over-fueled for a few of my marathons. Then I met Intuitive Eating. It took me a whopping seven marathons to figure out how to properly and adequately fuel myself, according to both my needs and preferences. I want to tell you about why that matters, what I've learned, and how I'm bringing that information to you now (with Kelly Jones, RD CSSD).

I hope this is the first of many 1:1 chats we have, even though I know you can't reply in real time. But you can leave me a topic request on heathercaplan.com/rd-real-talk-podcast/ , or email me anytime: RDRealTalk at gmail dot com!

Intuitive Eating dietitians mentioned on this episode:

Kelly Jones Nutrition (eatreallivewell.com), co-leading the Fit Fueling: Intuitive Eating for Female Athletes course with me. It starts Monday May 15—come join us!

Food Psych Podcast by Christy Harrison
Love, Food Podcast by Julie Duffy Dillon
ImmaEatTHAT.com by Kylie Mitchell
TheRealLife-RD.com by Robyn Coale

Heather Pavlik brings some zest to this week's episode! She joins us from San Francisco, where she works in the startup tech world. We met over a salad lunch near AT&T park, and bonded over running, startup things, and some eye-roll moments. I'm glad I didn't mention how full I was after that salad.

On this episode, we cover everything from a (shared) weird experience with Paleo book authors to the reason we should all consider a visit to Alaska (below-zero temps aside).

In the nutrition news:

Paleo Diet? Not Really (Fad Diet Bares Little Resemblance...)
7 “weight loss roadblocks” at your office
RDs are not a fan of ‘everything in moderation’

Go find Heather Pavlik:

Twitter & Instagram @heatherpavlik

HeatherPavlik.com

Elizabeth (Liz) Shaw joins the RD Real Talk conversation to talk about Infertility awareness, her role as a consultant for food companies, and her amazing rollerblading skills. (Rollerblade community coming soon!) She launched Bumps to Baby this year to bring awareness to infertility and the real stories that happen with families who are trying to conceive. She is a networking rockstar and has great stories about how she put herself out to the world for the sake of business and personal growth. !!Bonus!! Liz is hosting a Bumps to Baby giveaway for National Infertility Awareness Week, 4/23-29(details around 36:30). Leave a podcast review on iTunes or comment on Soundcloud to enter the giveaway. Visit Liz to learn more about her work on the following sites: shawsimpleswaps.com -- bumpstobaby.com Twitter and Instagram: @shawsimpleswaps

Sarah Waybright joins me from the DC area! She's an aspiring farmer, and may be growing the vegetables for my CSA this summer. We have some odd audio issues, but power through to bring you a chat about pesticides, nutrigenomics (or "ix") weight loss (or not), and school nutrition. Go to heathercaplan.com/podcast for the links and Sarah's info. In the nutrition news: - "New Mexico Outlaws School Lunch Shaming" - "Before you send your spit to 23andMe, what you need to know" - The EPA’s decision to not ban a “common pesticide”

Kylie Mitchell is in the house! We talk all things related to eating disorders this week, because that's her specialty (and I'm learning). We answer our first listener question, which leads to a stomach-acid-jacuzzi visual. Sometimes "real" gets weird. In the nutrition news: - Why teens (and adults) are not seeking eating disorder (ED) treatment - What should gyms do about compulsive over-exercisers (if anything)? Bonus: The #realtalk moment Kylie realized she was not meant to be a veterinarian. Kylie Mitchell: immaeatthat.com | @immaEATthat (Instagram)

Introducing the RD Real Talk Mini-series: RD Careers! Stephanie Saullo is a sports dietitian in Charlotte, NC. She shares how she went from aerospace engineering to nutrition communications to sports dietetics. She has a private practice and works as a consultant, juggling a few roles to keep things interesting. The real question: How can we make her the first RD on Mars?

Jenn Randazzo joins the show from San Francisco this week! Our bi-coastal mid-afternoon chat felt more like a happy hour with an old friend. (Jenn and I have known each other for less than one year.) We cover everything from Nancy Drew novels to gut health to Country Crock margarine. PSA: opt for the real stuff (butter). In the nutrition news: - Boston and other major cities provide “good” food to patients with chronic health conditions (and often food insecurity) - does it “count as health care?” (STAT News) - Cookbooks tell you how to cook, but not how to avoid food-borne illness (NCSU Study) - “Our relationship with food is messed up, it started with butter” (Washington Post) Bonus: a list of #TryPod suggestions from both of us! Jenn Randazzo: Twitter & Instagram @jennyeatsplants

Tina Gowin Carlucci is in the studio this week! My first in-house guest for the podcast, and her first time podcasting. We talk about her baby Burrito, entrepreneur lessons, and of course, some actual nutrition topics. In the nutrition news: Vitamin D deficiency may increase your risk of injury, but so might playing football Another reason broccoli is touted as the vegetable King (or Queen) Forbes’ list of (badass) women leading the future of food Tina Gowin Carlucci: GoWinNutrition.com | @GoWinNutrition (Stay tuned for a Burrito special at the end.)

Allison Tepper, another DC-based dietitian, joins me this week. We cover topics ranging from Whole30 to weight stigma to Leonardo DiCaprio's latest sustainability recommendation. In the nutrition news: - Things we should talk about more: Weight discrimination and health - Why Leonardo DiCaprio thinks farmed fish is a fresh choice (and we don't necessarily disagree) - The many things you're doing right (permission to ignore the list of "nutrition mistakes" made) Allison: www.teppernutrition.com | Twitter: @AllisonMTepper Heather: heathercaplan.com

Kelly Jones is back! And Bob Harper has reentered our lives. It was a weird week for nutrition... In the nutrition news: It's National Nutrition Month. What does "Put Your Best Fork Forward" mean? What can we learn from Bob Harper's heart attack? Why are we still (un)scrambling the nutrition content of eggs? FDA says we can chime in on how to define "healthy," so, whatcha think? (Bonus! A thing about cookie dough. We're INTERESTED.)

This week I chat with Cara Harbstreet, of Street Smart Nutrition (street-smartnutrition.com). When we first met in real life, we connected over a mutual love of Oiselle and running. In this episode, we bond over a mutual distaste for the idea that dietitians don't eat french fries. In the nutrition news: The article that poses an odd question: is sugar or salt worse for you? The study that gives us an interesting insight into the many benefits of gut health, including a good night's rest The top cardiologist who is "blasting" nutrition guidelines, and why

This week’s RD Real Talk guest is Kim Hoban, of KHNutrition.com. We met two years ago, on an almond tour in California (because sometimes RDs take trips to learn about almonds). Now, we talk almost every week. This time it happened to be recorded! In the nutrition news: A bleeding plant-based burger is one food scientist’s solution to eating less meat. We’re not totally convinced. Some other (behavioral, computer, and exercise) scientists are in a fight against health apps, and the 10,000 steps per day theory. The ideal world of eating every vegetable (and fish) you buy before it goes to waste is not the world we live in. We share some real talk about our recent food purchases and subsequent waste. It happens. (But it doesn’t have to!)