Find it: Recent Episodes
Erin Essex
Find it is a project that seeks to find stories of places, people, and ideas that need to be shared. Join us as we explore.
Guests
Christopher Janney
Rachel Hazes
Matthew Gottesman
Clara Shim
David Mack
Refrences
Christopher Janning website: https://www.janneysound.com/
Atlas Obscura - https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/reach-new-york
Bird sounds sampled from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjwxE_kI5wA
Vintage video - https://viewing.nyc/reach-a-playable-urban-musical-instrument-at-herald-square-subway-station/
Sound stair - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzon5zB1sAI
CBS sunday morning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqHmtFY4-Fc
Boston children's hospital https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tubX5iXCw
Janney's house - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBhTDfo6wxI
What is a heart? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw3AtnMg1xo
Sound from YouTube channel bridge and tunnel club
https://alum.mit.edu/slice/video-urban-musical-instrument-goes-school
Sounds from https://www.janneysound.com/project/passing-light-san-antonio-tx/
Synesthesia explained - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRbebvoYqI
Famous artist's with synestosia http://mentalfloss.com/article/88417/12-famous-artists-synesthesia
The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, in 1911, was one of the deadliest industrial disasters in US history. But what you may not realize is that this was one of the events that pushed states to start to require more safety measures in the workplace.
GUESTS IN ORDER
LULU LOLO
Artist and activist
See more of Lulu’s work on her website
RUTH SERGEL
Artist and agitator
GET INVOLVED
Remember the Triangle Coalition
The Chalk Project
Check your brands factory conditions at Good on You and Ethical Fashion Guide
REFERENCES
https://www.osha.gov/oas/trianglefactoryfire.html photos
http://troytaylorbooks.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-triangle-fire.html Graphic photos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Building_(Manhattan) Wiki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN8cjH5qfRk Overview of the fire
https://macaulay.cuny.edu/seminars/wills08/articles/j/a/c/Jacob_Kline_66b7.html Jacob Kline
https://www.history.com/topics/early-20th-century-us/triangle-shirtwaist-fire Mentions refusal of owners to install sprinklers
https://www.firehouse.com/home/news/10517122/triangle-the-fire-that-changed-america - talks about corruption
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-the-triangle-shirtwai_b_5029158 - reform after the fire
Why its hard to pay a living wage: https://www.vox.com/2018/2/27/17016704/living-wage-clothing-factories
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/shirtwaist-kings/
Audio retelling of fire: https://www.wnyc.org/story/119940-listen-wnyc-archives-triangle-shirtwaist-fire/
Industrial disaster list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_industrial_disasters
https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/triangle
What is a shirtwaist: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/triangle-fire-what-shirtwaist/
Fire escape taking 3 hours: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjditC4mYfjAhVmiOAKHbj6DUAQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgvshp.org%2Fblog%2F2011%2F03%2F02%2Fremembering-the-triangle-fire%2F&psig=AOvVaw1O3B2IpKVDT16VzO_HoEZ1&ust=1561640221999361
https://historycollection.co/arson-accident-triangle-shirtwaist-factory-fire/
The strike and conditions that improved with union involvement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_shirtwaist_strike_of_1909
Song http://open-archive.rememberthetrianglefire.org/triangle-song/
http://open-archive.rememberthetrianglefire.org/angels-in-the-sky/
Diagram of the building: http://trianglefire.ilr.cornell.edu/supplemental/3Dmodel.html
Papers talking about stair deficiencies: https://gvshp.org/blog/2011/03/02/remembering-the-triangle-fire/
Map of names: http://rememberthetrianglefire.org/the-names/
Rana plaza: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/style/survivors-of-rana-plaza-disaster.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-20522593 - Dhaka padlocking exits
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Dhaka_garment_factory_fire#cite_note-21 2012 Its major clients include Walmart, Carrefour and IKEA.[10]
Rana plaza collapse: https://www.racked.com/2018/4/13/17230770/rana-plaza-collapse-anniversary-garment-workers-safety
Bangladesh factory accidents: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bangladesh-fire-factbox/factbox-major-industrial-accidents-in-bangladesh-in-recent-years-idUSKCN12C2PR
https://cleanclothes.org/ua/2013/rana-plaza - other brands, childrens place
https://directory.goodonyou.eco/ - brand ratings
https://baptistworldaid.org.au/resources/2019-ethical-fashion-guide/ - brand ratings labour only
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/26/these-retailers-involved-in-bangladesh-factory-disaster-have-yet-to-compensate-victims/#3d383f99211b - joe fresh
https://www.greenamerica.org/green-purchasing-choose-fair-labor/tell-samsung/what-you-can-do-about-sweatshops - what you can do about sweatshops
Part 2 of “Grossinger’s has everything” goes into the demise of not just the hotel but the Catskill area.
This episode is part of a 2 part series; please listen to episode 1 to get the back story and see the post for images of what Grossinger’s looked like.
On the find it website you can find my photos, followed by some from guest Marisa Scheinfeld (with permission) and then some from Harold. Below that you will find the image from a fellow urbex-er that was the image he sent me that made me so emotional.
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Guests in order of appearance:
Harold Lieberman
Jennie G enthusiast and otherwise Grossinger loverFB group where we met: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grossingers/
Elaine Grossinger Etess
Daughter of Harry and Jennie Grossinger. President and Chair Person of the Hotel and Lodging AssociationInterview: http://www.classiccatskills.com/stories/interview3.htmlAt 97 Street Y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MY3kgc7Ac
Marisa Scheinfeld
Author, photographer, explorer. Her book: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/bookHer site: http://www.marisascheinfeld.comExhibits: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/upcomingFull interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7riL4cpdW0
References
- Talks of restoring hotel - made it sound like they were going to be rebuilt: http://catskills.brown.edu/news/concord4.shtml -
- New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/09/nyregion/dirty-dancing-resort-remake-patrick-swaze-jennifer-grey-catskills.html
- Record Online article: https://www.recordonline.com/news/20170801/grossingers-owner-seeks-state-aid
- Concord timeline: https://www.recordonline.com/article/20120212/News/202120330
- Article that mentions the clean up: https://www.aarp.org/home-family/friends-family/info-2017/dirty-dancing-catskill-resort-fd.html
- Jennie G building getting torn down: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1956252047773966
- Huf Post about urbex: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-5-rules-you-need-to-k_b_14656484
- Casinos projects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLD8bGyyZXc
- Catskills mag project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU5n3IfGSjg
Grossinger's was an enormous resort that provided fun year round activities for decades. Dancing, skiing, tennis, they had it all. In fact it was the resort that inspired the film Dirty Dancing. This podcast will dive into the story of Grossinger's and the people shaped by it.
A couple years back I posted a video about Grossinger’s resort in the Catskills, a once enormous 1200 acre vacation resort. I never visited the resort while it was open but I was struck by its beauty in its decay. I expected the video to get some views and comments but what I didnt expect is that It would get comments that inspired me to make a podcast. What I was struck by is the emotion and detail of these comments and I wanted to share them, but YouTube wasnt the right place for this, I needed a longer format.
Podcast…thats it!
So here we are, this is my first ever completed episode of the Find It podcast featuring those stories and more.
I welcome your comments and questions. You can comment below or email me at finditpodcast@gmail.com.
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Guests in order of appearance:
Marisa Scheinfeld
Author, photographer, explorer. Her book: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/bookHer site: http://www.marisascheinfeld.comExhibits: http://www.marisascheinfeld.com/upcomingFull interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7riL4cpdW0
Elaine Grossinger Etess
Daughter of Harry and Jennie Grossinger. President and Chair Person of the Hotel and Lodging AssociationInterview: http://www.classiccatskills.com/stories/interview3.htmlAt 97 Street Y: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MY3kgc7Ac
Harold Lieberman
Jennie G enthusiast and otherwise Grossinger loverFB group where we met: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grossingers/
REFERENCES
- Historic news reel clip from 1959: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svcTYhhxaCA
- Barrel jumping clip 1: 1:19:48: http://www.historicfilms.com/tapes/2139_3689.00_3694.00
- Barrel jumping clip 2: 1:21:13 http://www.historicfilms.com/tapes/9027_491.17_507.17
- WABC - TV NY 1992 News clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUgHkLoPz48
- Eddie Cantor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANRPmTZRqkg
- Dick Van Dyke: 16:20 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e9EMbelLfbw&feature=youtu.be
- Jackie Horner Dancing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuY7b8luGwI
- Dirty Dancing movie trailer: https://kgmi.com/news/030030-dirty-dancing-turns-30-film-being-feted-in-nys-catskills/
- The Real-Life Baby’s Name is Jackie, Not Frances: http://entertainment.time.com/2012/08/17/dirty-dancing-at-25-top-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-catskills-classic/slide/the-real-life-babys-name-is-jackie-not-frances/
- Jackie Horner interview: https://www.recordonline.com/entertainmentlife/20170720/celebrating-most-memorable-catskills-milestone---dirty-dancing-is-30
- Dirty Dancing Character Penny Was Based On A Real Person Jackie Horner: http://likedirtydancing.blogspot.com/2011/10/dirty-dancing-character-penny-was-based.html
- Elaine Grossinger Etess videos: https://www.google.com/search?q=elaine+grossinger+etess&oq=ealine+grossinger+e&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l2.7111j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
- Jennie Grossinger (1892-1972), Garment Worker to Resort Owner: https://americacomesalive.com/2012/03/28/jennie-grossinger-1892-1972-garment-worker-to-resort-owner/
- Elizabeth Taylor bio: https://www.biography.com/video/elizabeth-taylor-marriage-to-eddie-fisher-9428035925
- Patrick Swayze interview about Penny and Johnny: https://ew.com/article/2009/10/05/dirty-dancing-swayze-johnny-baby-or-penny/
- Freddy Roman clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwvIhluYXIs https://americacomesalive.com/2012/03/28/jennie-grossinger-1892-1972-garment-worker-to-resort-owner/
- Gilbert Gottfried’s Podcast: https://www.earwolf.com/show/gilbert-gottfried/
- Scott’s Family Resort where Marvelous Mrs Maisel S2 was filmed: https://www.scottsfamilyresort.com/
- Marvelous Mrs Maisel on Amazon Prime: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B06X9579J1
- Dirty Dancing, in case you dont know what it is: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092890/
MORE THANK YOUS
My amazing and supportive partner Jay Otto.
All 3 of my guests, with out you these stories cant be shared.
My family and friends that support all my crazy ideas, seriously thank you!