Touché Podcast: Recent Episodes

Touché with Jeff & Jenn

A podcast for artists who have fought their way to the middle. Ya know those actors who become insanely famous and have multiple staff running their errands? Yeah, that's not us...yet. We're artists kinda in the middle. Welcome to a podcast for the working actor/artist who would like to work more, the person still asking for that raise, and anyone who feels like they are endlessly treading in the middle. You think you could say it better? Touche'! We're sure you could! Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/touch-podcast/support

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Tuck yourselves in because acclaimed writer and performer (all around multi hyphenated hunny) RYAN HADDAD is serving RADICAL ACCESS! We chat about his journey from Ohio to New York's downtown scene and beyond and his new off Broadway play "Dark Disabled Stories" premiering at The Public this month. Do not miss this autobiographical play as a series of unforgiving vignettes about the strangers he encounters while navigating a world not built for his walker and cerebral palsy. Get your tickets at publictheater.org February 28-March 26th. We adore you Ryan!!!

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365 days times 2 and Touché is back! Wow, well, Covid really put us in our chairs, and a lot has gone down since: Some TV shows, a professorship, a new pet, thoughts of actually getting a pet, a film, and a book deal. We chat about what "the middle" is and if that's changed? Doesn't it always?

We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions and comments - SEND EM IN!

Missed ya a ton!

PS Jenn realizes how subpar her audio is - she recorded while underwater and vows never to do that again.

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Spring has sprung and Jeff and Jenn are feeling a little something as well. Reuniting, celebrating upcoming work, deleting apps, scamming McDonalds...a little something for everyone ;)

We miss you and accepting applications for what you need.

Touche.


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MEDITATE, JOURNAL, EXERCISE...why does this look so easy on paper?


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Still feeling stuff? It's not a question. Touche. 

Jenn and Jeff are feeling all sorts of stuff that they so generously share on this weeks episode of Touche. Bonus: A little sprinkle of "Pajama Game" because we see you musical people!


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We miss you. We miss us.


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Well here we are. Here. We. Are. We have a lot of thoughts and feelings right now so we give you our voices and sometimes giggles if that can be of any comfort. We love you a ton. Stay inside. Touche.


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Downtown superstar Neal Medlyn (aka Champagne Jerry) joins Jeff and Jenn this week to talk about his journey from being a jr college dropout to a successful performance artist. This EPISODE ya'll!!!!


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Jenn and Jeff want you to know what they loved in 2019! FUN, doncha think?


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We do it every year, and this one is no exception. Jenn and Jeff are talking roses and thorns of 2019, goals for 2020, and we even talk about how our goals from last year ended up this year - we did kinda good!!!


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We are not in the same city! So Jenn and Jeff monologize at each other about their lives apart.


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Guest Host and former guest Harry Bouvy sits down with Jeff and actor Jay Russell who has performed on Broadway, Off-Broadway, TV and Film and lays down a depressing truth - there aren't really any breakthroughs. You just gotta keep going. 


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Lulu Lloyd has been on Broadway (School of Rock), toured with major productions (Waitress, Bat Out of Hell) and worked with the likes of Steve Martin and Edie Brickell, but there was still something missing for her life, and she realized she can change it. So she did!


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You have seen Mike Doyle in a LOT of things. Seriously. Look at his IMDB page. Go ahead. We will wait. That's a lot of work, right? Law and Order: SVU, The Jersey Boys movie, Rabbit Hole, Sex and the City, Oz, even Gayby with Jenn! But what Mike shares with Jeff and Jenn is that even a career with a ton of credits is still a marathon and not a sprint to a finish line. Plus, the descriptions of the characters he has played are worth a download, trust!


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Proud Equity member Pam Goldberg (Phillip Taratula) joins us to discuss life as an actor who has seen and done it all yet still never became a household name. We talk what it’s like to ride the waves of a career and also meal prep. Pam also has a show at Ars Nova on December 9th 2019! Though we do believe she will outlive us all, don't miss this opportunity to see her in person. Thank you for your time Pam.


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Rats in DC? I mean...Touche! This week Jeff and Jenn (and let's be real, Beverly too) chat about musical theatre audition prep, shooting a juicy role in a pilot and ALL the feelings that go along with it, and physical pains as one ages cuz, ouch!


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Scott Lowell joins Jenn and Jeff on the Lower East Side to talk about TV stardom and theatre roots, not to mention booking twelve commercials in one year - WHICH WE CAN AGREE IS NOT REAL EVEN IF IT IS TRUE! A great discussion about how the struggle is never really over. 


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Casting director Andrew Femenella joins Jenn and Jeff in upstate Manhattan. We talk about how Andrew is looking at casting in a new way, how there is still a ladder you have to climb on that side of the table, and his secret (or maybe not so secret?) love of musical theatre. An exciting episode where we get to see what life is like on the other side! 


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That title rhymes if you have a Texas accent. Can you believe it? They were gone so long, but they're back after summers and early Autumns full of all sorts of stuff. Jenn and Jeff are back in Inwood to start a sort of second season as it were. They talk about where they have been and how they are feeling. And fret not! we have more episodes in the can coming your way in the next few weeks! Touche'!


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You know how British sitcoms do a one off episode? It's always in December and they call it the Christmas special? Well Touche' is doing that! Jenn is back from making her movie and Jeff hasn't left to do Bright Colors in DC, so they are together and talking for one special episode! A bonus! Also, there is the weirdest audio thing in the world and I left it in cause its hilarious. See if you can hear it and if you can't you didn't listen. 


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Ya'll, Jeff got a little job for a week and Jenn is taking on a MONSTER project. They are so busy they can't even be in the same room with each other! And so it means, it's time for a little touche' hiatus. They explain what that is about in this last new episode (for a while?). Much love from touche land!


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Jeff and Jenn get to do reading together on a beautiful Sunday afternoon and take you on their literal travels. Jenn is on her motor bike and it's a windy day so maybe have your finger on your volume - pro tip :)


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Cody Lindquist is an actor, a UCB regular and one half of the hosts of the podcast, "Two Beers In". She joins us at the peril of her own safety from Jeff's wild cat. She tells us about doing bad theatre, getting out of Boerum Hill alive and how rules can be comforting. It's a good listen!


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A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING everyone....come get your LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING!!!


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Touche is blessed to have the wonderful Libby Winters this week! We talk about what it was like to be a child "star", realizing that some jobs are unicorns, and how Stevie Nicks makes the world better. Also, because Jenn wasn't here, Jeff had a bit of a difficult time with the audio and consequently, the sound is even more janky than normal. But it gets much better... I promise!


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Jeff and Jenn both got an internet only commercial audition in Long Island City, so they took the podcast on the road to let you in on the glamorous lifestyle of NYC audition lyfe! Then they take you to Inwood, Jenn's new neighborhood, and Jeff let's you in on all of the weirdo shizz that is filling his head like Transcendental Meditation, Deep Work, and Human Design! 


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SEX! YOUR STAR METER ON IMDB! Now that we have your attention...this week Jeff and Jenn get into some saucy talk, some reflections on said saucy talk and of course your star meter and what it actually "means".


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Actor, improvisor, original content creator and more, MICAH SHERMAN, joins us on Touche this week. He shares about working the comedy scenes in Boston and Chicago, getting your own content together, he and Jeff explain what a "Harold" in improv is, and so much more. And of COURSE he and Jenn get to chat about their, by now hopefully iconic, sex scene on this season's HIGH MAINTENANCE on HBO! If you haven't seen Micah in all his glory yet, now you can ;) Delightful!


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Singer, Songwriter, Singer/Songwriter, Therapist, Actor and DEAR friend Jim Andralis joins us today to chat coming to New York, coming out, making your own art, making a living....and how aaaalllll of the above are just so complicated. This ep is ALL about the closet and "the fear of admitting who you are and what you like". A very talented and smart pal we have in Jim. Enjoy him because we always do ;) 


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Is Jenn easy? Is Jeff easy? Let's talk branding! Jeff shares a great poop story and we chat what the hell to attempt to do when shit hits the fan...is this the poop episode? It's the poop episode.


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Actress, cabaret gurl and our fave lady to run into at auditions joins us in Jeff's living room this week. We chat ENERGY and VIBRANCY and JOY and feeling vulnerable about having Energy and Vibrancy and Joy. Nadia -"Liking the life of a cool, NYC artist!" We're heeeerrrrre 4 it!


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Jenn is in Jeff's bedroom this time and his cat is not having it. They discuss critics, thoughts on other actors getting the funnier lines, and how Jenn made Jeff beautiful with a trip to Sephora. Can you deal?


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Sparkling playwright and actor Zackary Grady returns to the podcast to share his songbird vocal cords post surgery and we are smitten. Zackary also takes us through the play-by-play of him performing in a drag show in PTown and the results are cute! Getting the work DONE hunny and freeing that natural voice!!!


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It's 2019 (sounds so Jetsons)! Jeff and Jenn have some intentions to set and many many reviews. They chat films to watch and stay away from, TV shows to binge and theatre to see. 2019 is going to be CREATIVE, PROSPEROUS and STABLE ok...(it kinda has to ;).


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Jenn and Jeff are back in Hartford (gross) for the year-end special! They talk about their future goals and review the nonsense they spouted last year and how that turned out for them. It's a sobering discussion.


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It's over. It's done. Last podcast in Jenn's bedroom. Jeff has just finished helping her put all her Barbies into storage, the couch is on the sidewalk for the city to pick up, and Jeff and Jenn are EXHAUSTED! ...but podcasting. We respect your time.


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Prolific downtown legend Becca Blackwell shares the T, spills the T, is on the T. They talk how they found their voice as an artist from a truly amazing guidance counselor, gender identity, Twitter wars, patriarchy, and SURVIVAL kids! From running a 78 channel sound craft to Circus Amok to residencies and SO much more, Becca's words are nourishment: "BEING AN ARTIST IS A PRIVILEGE! Do it only if you have to do it." TOUCHE!


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Jenn and Jeff are alone in the bedroom feasting on the souls of demons, celebrating Jeff's new Trader Joes, chatting NOT getting to plan life, adulting, AND OVERTALKING!!! OMG we are ready to MOVE FORWARD!...maybe. Also, Jeff is getting texts and it's scary for Jenn. BOO!


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Randy Harrison is in Jenn's bedroom after spending a few years playing some of the greatest characters in the theatrical cannon. Randy dispels Jeff's myth that if you get on a TV show you can just ride that forever, and we talk about QWAN! The conversation is delightful and of course Jenn and Jeff try to sing Rent again, cause its like their thing now?


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Jenn and Jeff enjoy a beautiful fall afternoon in the bedroom to discuss the self-reflecting classic, "When Things Fall Apart" by Pema Chodron. They also sing a little bit.


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Ian is in the bedroom, and this lovely artists' knowledge spans from the fragrant notes in his deodorant to filmmaking...and EVERYTHING in between! We get San Fran theatre. We get comic book chat. We get musicals when you can't dance. And talk about making the most out of your bullying?!?!? We give you Ian! So much love.


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Jeff and Jenn are back to just being by themselves. Jenn is embracing change even though she hates it, and Jeff is longing for it even though he doesn't really have any coming his way. Plus a lot more. This one goes to weird places including our worship of Rent and Spring Awakening.


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Actors are not paper dolls and black Converse hightops are lazy. Writer, actress, and costume designer COLLEEN WERTHMANN graces the bedroom this week all the way from Harlem!!! She was a kid who literally paid her own way, asked Richard Foreman for her equity card, and likes to ask of her projects - Is it fun? Is it cool? Is it interesting? And is it something I can be proud of? Colleen makes joyful things and we are HERE for them!


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Michael Cyril Crate and Barrel is in Jenn's room and we are talking about being proud of your work, hope vs fantasy, and also Jeff cries cause I guess he's feeling vulnerable.


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Jeff hit his head at work but brought ME flowers, a substitute mic, a new roommate, a dash of Parker Posey and a LOT of Stormy Daniels...a TRUE compost of an episode :)


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"Art can't hurt you". Director, editor, filmmaker, artist Will Mayo joins us in the bedroom this week to lend a lens capturing a filmmakers perspective on the biz. Also: Tennessee, dating your neighbor, art camp...


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"Being an actor feels like your ego is on a violent pendulum swing between a field of cashmere and a casual tub of knives." - Betty Gilpin


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Apartment situation, Karen Ziemba, Alopecia: One of these things is really nice.


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Writer, performer, voice over Goddess, and New York Time Contributor (NOT a staff writer!!!), Amanda Duarte joins us in Jenn's bedroom to talk about not "doing" the acting thing anymore and how she found her voice at 40! This one is exciting!!!


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Writer, actor, performer, producer, connoisseur of figure skating - we give you Zackary Grady!!!! If you missed his highly acclaimed TOE PICK at Dixon Place this past Olympics season we are truly sorry, but at least you can sit with this hilarious and UBER FUN genius with Jenn as they chat about creating your own work, devouring theme parks, and of course, figure skating.


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It's a packed packed episode Touch-y's and we are dishing on all things weddings to Brene Brown. SERVE YA SELVES! Muah!


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Jenn is out working on {BEEEP!!!!} for the week, and so this is a Jenn-less episode just to let you know that we will be back next week with 100% more Jenn Harris!


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Ya'll....wow did we miss you. Jeff is back from a month in Italy and we are catching up because June TRULY busted out all over and we have things to share. xoxo


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Jeff took the NJ Transit out to visit Jenn at The McCarter Theatre in Princeton because FRIENDSHIP.


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Jenn has ants, Jeff has an audit, and everyone is obsessed with their obit and Matthew Modine's scheduling for "47 Meters Down."


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We announced our book club and the responses were deafening! In their silence. One person responded and it was Amber Petty from LA! We discuss "The World Only Spins Forward" by Isaac Butler and Dan Kois today on Touche.


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Jeff and Jenn are still apart but communicating via voice memo (thank God). And speaking of God, Jenn visits a church, Jeff goes through a drive through in Texas, Jenn semi-manically hangs out with her cast and Jeff brings all his clothes to his shoot because of course, they ask us to.


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Jenn has just started tech for "Turning Off The Morning News" by Christopher Durang at The McCarter Theatre in Princeton, NJ and grabs some of the cast backstage to check pulses, tap into some of their thoughts about the biz, and find snacks. The wonderful Nicholas Podany shares about agency in the rehearsal room, and Broadway veteran/new skin care addict Robert Sella drops some GEMS while tossing us a new term - "Chief Thunderclouds"


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Jenn is back to tell you ALL about her actor housing, from her hatred of books to her love of a bath tub that overflows. Jeff responds!


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Jenn is off being an artist, so Jeff is alone in his apartment (not totally alone! Beverly the cat makes an appearance!)talking about what to say when there is nothing coming up and announcing a book club selection for next week! Also, some Glee stuff.


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We couldn't believe Leslie came all the way from Jersey to share her energy, positivity, stories and WISDOM! This talent means business...literally...spreadsheets and all.


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"Annihilation" and "JC Live" and "Angels in America" and jumping on a good set up.


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An earlier version of this podcast was uploaded at a shockingly short 6 seconds long! OOOPS! Jeff isn't smart, but Ben Rimalower is! Director, actor, and writer Ben Rimalower talks about his want for a rich husband on the Upper West Side and a Tony, but not necessarily in that order!


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The snow is melting so Jeff finally dragged himself to Brooklyn. We talk commercial callbacks, advice to young actors, and the title. Won't it all be so fun?!?!?!


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Happy Spring! The snow is covering the ground, Jeff is in his closet (Touche), and Jenn totally understands that it's impossible for her friends to leave their houses, but her roommates need to GET OUT!!!


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Abra Tabak, a beloved fixture of the UCB community is a delight. Jenn and Abra share a love of skin care, and on top of the skin around your head, we talk about what its like to get INSIDE your head at auditions and unearned confidence!


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Other titles for this episode could be: "They tried to scam Jenn and they rejected Jeff", "Jenn monologues cause Jeff feels rejected (and also brought Chipotle)", "Surprise Mom and Dad, I was arrested years ago, Love, Jenn"


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There is no feud! Jeff is just out of town but he'll be back soon. But first he wanted to reply to Jenn and write out this description in third person!


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Jenn is coming at you solo with SELF CARE damnit! Jeff is a busy werking actor at the moment, and of course will be back next week, but please do listen to me, I mean listen to JENN, because she has tips.


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There is nothing we can say except welcome to the episode where Jack Ferver of WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DANCE AND STUFF podcast came over. Jack. Does. It. All (except check his mail) Get into it!


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IT'S PILOT SEASON (for some) - learn "what that means"...kinda.


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A fellow UCB pal, Chicago native, and lover of musicals joined Jeff and Jenn in the bedroom where it got REEEEEEEEEEAL. So real, we circled on back to the church. Tim joins us in the deep pockets of this biz and reminded us we are doing what we love. Bless your heart Tim.


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OFF SEASON is the way to travel. The apple store has you gather around trees now. And Jeff is a star in "Bright Color and Bold Patterns" because RuPaul says so (and so does Jenn. She wrote this.)


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Jenn and Jeff did a show with Deidre Goodwin over a decade ago, but they can't shake their talent crush for this lady! Dee sits down and talks a dancer's life. Jenn and Jeff crush hard on her. Ok. Mainly Jeff.


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We are back in Jenn's bedroom talking new projects, what SUPPORT we need/would like and Jenn tries not to cuss but fails. Touche.


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Some people are already breaking their resolutions, but Jeff and Jenn are just listing theirs! We talk about how 2017 was hard and our hopes for 2018. Won't it be fun to listen to this the first week of 2019 and see how wildly wrong our predictions were?!?!


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You know we did a year in review episode, but for whatever reason, that is coming next week. We're doing our own thing baby! Instead we have the treat that is Matt Wilkas for you. The actor from Gayby, Spiderman: Turn off the Dark, and New York is Dead (and one of Jenn's closest friends) is here to talk growing up, being funny, and his perfect year!


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The feud is over! Jeff and Jenn are in the same room again!!! This episode is dedicated to catching up and eating home made bread from Jeff's husband. We've got three new eps in the can babies! And then Jenn will be back in the city and we will talk and gab about life in the middle again!


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Jenn is working! And werqing! So they can't be in the same room at the same time. So, take a listen to THIS lil podcast that they recorded in installments. Jenn talks about preparing for an out-of-town gig and Jeff has an ah-ha moment live on mic! This week's podcast is brought to you by... just kidding. We don't have sponsors.


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Jenn came to Manhattan to record at Jeff's place! They talk origin stories, jealousy, and cats that rub their faces on microphones. Also, Jeff is writing these descriptions now and they feel a bit wordy, no?


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This week we get BAAAASIIIIIIIIIC


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This week, our take on some of this Weinstein shit.


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Actor-Musician Lucas Papaelias joins us in Jenn's bedroom and reminds us of the utterJOY inside collaborations. He shares what it takes when you are an actor and also posses a super special skill like musicianship - equally beautiful and complex. Plus all the deets on ONCE The Musical and Burning Man(!) Enjoy this gem of a man...a true arTEEST.


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Ya'll this is the late late show (meaning we recorded at 9pm). So we have our our Tech attitude out and its' giggly. AlsoJeff shares some more READING.


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So sorry ya'll but Jeff was werking overseas!!! So it's ketchup time! We chat everything from movie posters to a mantra of sorts: I am more dynamic than what's being fed me. WE MISSED YOU! (We missed us)


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An Aquarius a Pisces and a Sagittarius walk into a bar... Just DRINK IN the loveliness, CLASS and steadfast talent and joy that is our girl Kathy Searle. We've been blessed.


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Jeff and Jenn get into their "types"


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New York is one giant public pool, Jeff had an actor's nightmare...literally, and we come up with a few reasons why being famous could suck.


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The love of our lives, HARRY BOUVY, stops by for a good, solid chat through it AAAALLL! From touring to getting that stage beat off and everything in between. Harry has graciously penned our new bio “A podcast for artists who have fought their way to the middle”....well TOUCHE good sir, touche.


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Another Casting Networks email for ya'll cuz this past week was audition free! Also Jenn apologized for not washing her hair. And Jeff forgot his pants.


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Working artist, mother of three, and a woman I fell in love with at first sight, stops by. We chat leaning into artistry and sharing the joys and struggles of being in charge of other little humans on top of oneself. Perspectives have widened and lower case is cute. Enjoy!


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A little bit of everything today because there was just so much. Also yeah....we wished we danced more growing up, but for the record, we are excellent movers!


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It's hot, the subways are a mess, they've had a few auditions, also Jill Soloway.


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Just go to your Instagram, search @mecharliehankin and follow. You are SO welcome. Touche!


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This week isn't exactly a regular podcast, but in the end, it is almost like a mini podcast? Thank you for subscribing and we'll be back next week with a regular ep!


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Jeff brings over a Casting Netwerks email for them to READ!!!


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Jenn and Jeff chat about a variety of things this week, but most importantly, about things that make them feel a bit humiliated.


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We are experimenting with a little 1/2 hour show. Let us know if LESS is MORE? A little chat about getting some pets. And we reveal some very salacious Ex stories.


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It's Jeff's NYC Anniversary!!! We chat about OTHER things we do that have nothing to do with "career" and honey, if ya spot it ya got it....just sayin'


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BONUS EPISODE- Mean Flirting with Phillip Taratula by Jeff & Jenn


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Philip Taratula, one of NYC's FINEST actors, joins Jenn and Jeff to chat about playing parody, auditioning, and 'putting in a good word for me'. A must listen!


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This week Jeff and Jenn stir a lovely soup of thoughts on all things podcasts they listen to, getting paid for gigs vs. not getting paid for gigs and do they want children???


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MOLLY POPE swings by to chat about how she got to being the cult sensation is is today, to making your own way and your own work, and what you would do if everything was free!


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Stories, Questions & a Crappy Audience Member. by Jeff & Jenn


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NY vs. LA and some good ole compare and despair!


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Remember how we did that guided meditation for a commercial waiting room? Well, some people said they liked it, so we are running with it.


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NYC will wreck you at times so maybe get that hazmat suit and extra Honest baby wipes.


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Jeff and Jenn sit down with legit star of stage (Flasettos, In Transit, Rent) and screen (Submissions Only, Modern Family) Colin Hanlon to talk understudy pay rates, who IS a character actor, and ideal careers! #touchepodcast

actor #actors #understudy #theatre #musicals #comedy


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Catching up. Also schedule whining so get ready.


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BONUS! - A Guided Meditation for Audition Waiting Rooms by Jeff & Jenn


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We have Becky Yamamoto!!! by Jeff & Jenn


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In the episode, where Jenn's Flora is a little out of whack, we get to answer some of your Burning questions....like quitting.


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In this episode Jeff and Jenn wax poetic about stuff they've learned from other actors, chat all things samples and free food...also, being nice.


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This week we have a guest in Jenn's bedroom and it's the VV popular maker of his own werk, COLE ESCOLA!!! Also his Dad bought him a gun, so there's that story too.


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Sometimes we work maybe 40 days out of the year. What do we do with the other 325 days?


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Jeff and Jenn discuss the Oscar films, including snubs and Casey Affleck.


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