We Should've Recorded That! with Phil and Adam: Recent Episodes
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This Episode Phil and Adam are talk with Sandre Godwin. Music is woven throughout her life's story. Hear her Musical Journey. She tells of beginnings growing up in India. Relate to her family's infleunce on her musical gifts. Listen to her first experiences in the United States.
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This Episode Phil and Adam are talk with Sandre Godwin. Music is woven throughout her life's story. Hear her Musical Journey. We hear God's providence in her coming to the States to study music. As a multifaceted musician, she talk about not being boxed in to one version of musical expression. Enjoy a future Disney Documentary that is still being written.
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This episode Phil and Adam talk with Dr. Laurissa Backlin, applied voice professor and colleague, with candor. She shares how God's providence led her career path. They discuss musicial artist and music that they grew to like. Laurissa talks about the music she loves to sing. She talks about why she enjoys teaching voice to future music educators.
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Phil and Adam caught you up on their work for September. Both share some of their acadamic plans. Phil's daughter makes her debut. They talk about what they really look forward to in the year.
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This episode Phil and Adam catch each other up on their summer happenings. Adam shares about visiting Turkey also, Türkiye.
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This episode Phil and Adam talk about their June Summer Plans. A perk of being a classroom teacher is have summer vacation. They discuss travel plans and VBS.
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This week Phil and Adam are visited by Chandler Smith again. In true-"we should've recorded that"-fashion, hear these music educators reflect on the recent school year. Chandler asks how to get community buy-in for the school choral program? How do we make choral music more relevant? Reflection can make us uncomfortable. So reflect with them on the phrase: "Good and Unfamiliar vs. Bad and Familiar".
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This Week Phil and Adam talk about Adam's time at the Rimsky-Korsakov Conservatory. He gives some background on the Russian Education System. Adam reflects on the Choral Music Education student and faculty conservatory experience. He shares the big takeaways from her trip and one on vibrato that could be the subject of many masterclasses.
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This Month Phil and Adam caught up. They share how they are readjusting to less restrictive music making. In their pervious episode Adam shared his plans to travel to Russia. This episode he talks about making that trip. They end with a musical reflection on peace.
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Happy New Year, Phil and Adam start this episode with an announcement. After the business segment, they speak with Tim Anjél Caldwell, multidisciplinary artist and teacher. He shares how and where he began to explore his art. Hear his answer on teaching (heart and soul) emotional connection to students. Tim talks about the resistance he faced as he start his dancing pursuits.
Find Him:
Instagram, TikTok: @timanjel , #timanjel
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This week listen to Adam on two of his students' podcast.
The Gluestix Gang interviews Dr. Potter and Aaron Hitchcock to see their perspectives on community. These perspectives help explore in more depth how these leaders form their communities. Music: Skating Squirrels by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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This week Phil and Adam reflect on the Christmas Season. Are you decorating for Christmas, they share if they are? Christmas can be a busy and stressful time for musicians, hear possible remedy for the stressfulness. Finally, join in a reflection as Adam read song lyrics from a piece his church choir is singing this season.
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This week Phil and Adam reads the Christmas Story from Luke 2
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This week Phil and Adam talk with Gunter McCourt, an Music Education graduate. Gunter shares concrete and abstract lessons learned at Delta State he is applying as a teacher. He speaks on the importance of mental health in Education. Gunter gives more lessons he has learned. He is also a recording Artist, and shares about his most recent project, "Ghost".
"Ghost" Album :https://open.spotify.com/album/3918Hid34cqIOqxxdGGgJ5?si=ZD7EEjr9TsCph3O_ccdcNw
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This Week Phil and Adam talks with Monica Ely, a vocal performance graduate and Chorale President during Adam's first year at DSU. Monica continued her studies after graduating DSU. She is teaching music to an interesting age group of students. Hear her college journey and influential people along the way. Monica shares wisdom we all should consider.
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This week Phil and Adam reflect on their "Where are they Now?" Conversations.
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This week Phil and Adam continue their "Where are they Now?" Series with Michael Hawkins, pianist and great friends with Basia. The words we say are important and Michael reminds us of that. He shares a moment when a teacher spoke life into him and how he is working daily to do that for his students. Speaking to the individual needs of his student takes time and he shares how he uses that time.
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This week Adam continues the "Where are they now?" Series solo. He talks with Basia Thomas, a piano performance major, who also participated in the Delta State Chorale. During her middle school years she was encouraged to pursue music studies which laid the path for her to study at DSU. Basia talks about what made her time at DSU special. She contrast that with her graduate studies at a larger school. There are musical and life lessons she learns at both. Listen for her performance goals at the end.
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This Week Phil and Adam continue an ongoing series, "Where are they now". They talk with Adam's former student, Chandler Smith. They chat with him about how his Music Education career has come full circle. How He is redefining success for the music program he leads. Adam ask about influential music teacher in his life. There is a teacher so influential he changed career paths.
Stay to the end and give them your thoughts on current events.
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This week Adam shares music. Hear him sing three duets during the Faculty Recital of Dr. Jeffery McGhee and Michael Landrum.
The Three Duets:
- Felix Mendelssohn: "Lift Thine Eyes", "I waited for the Lord"
- Ovid Young: "What Shall I Give thee Master?"
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This week Adam is back. Together, Phil and Adam discuss the post concert debriefing process. They consider the purpose and power of it. Phil reflects again on a particularly impactful Low/High Post Concert Debriefing.
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This Week Phil makes history. He talks with his sister, the podcast first familial guest. You will hear Astiney's journey towards Special Education. She talks about removing the taboo of remedial special education among students. You will hear how teaching has brought growth in other areas of her life.
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This week Phil and Adam consider their audience. They talk about the type of person that may be listening. Listener are you being described? Who is actually listening? Lastly, they talk about who they would like to listen and talk to.
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This Week Phil and Adam converse about Cancel Culture. With their Wikipedia definition they cautiously dive in. They ask should Cancel Culture be a thing? If so, how should it be used? If not, what should replace it?
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This week Phil and Adam did not know what to talk about. So, that's what they talk about. Why do we have creative block? They talk about how to respond to it.
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This week Phil and Adam talk about going back to school. Hear how they feel about going back. They talk going back to school rituals. They reflect on making adjustments to their teaching approach from school year to school year.
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This week Phil and Adam try to recreate the magic of the previous week's episode. Are you blaming anyone for the resurgence of COVID? What is our personal and collective responsibility right now? What is motivating your response to our current state with COVID?
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This week Phil and Adam catch each other up on their Summer happenings in the month of July. Hear about Adam's vacation on the West Coast. Baby Annaïse shares a few words.
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This Week Phil and Adam catch up and recap the month of June. Phil talks about the arrive of baby Annaïse. Adam shares what it was like post quarantine in Canada. They both reflect on invisible diversity.
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This week Phil and Adam talks to a Power Couple. Returning guest, Anthony and Michelle Selvaggio share how they met. They compare their community leadership roles. You will hear vulnerable reflects on how they are guiding their communities and family through the Covid-19 Pandemic.
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This week Phil and Adam consider Teacher Appreciation Week. They chose one teacher to appreciate. They talk about a lesson taught that was learned later. They ask if they feel appreciated as teachers.
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This week Phil and Adam talk about what they plan to do this summer with the world become more open.
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This week Phil and Adam talk with Tim Collins. Tim is a PhD research physicist at the University of Rochester and a church member with Adam. Tim shares how his father faith and profession shaped his. Hear how he met his wife. He talks about early experiences in Bible study ministry. Tim, Phil, and Adam discuss the relationship between Faith and Science.
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This week Phil and Adam talk with Julia Steidle. Julia is an alumna of Roberts Wesleyan College and the Chorale. She shares about life since graduation. They talk about life lessons from college. She shares her future plans as a performer. Lastly, hear how Julia met Phil and Adam.
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This week Phill and Adam talk about fatigue. Adam gives a prefatory note. They talk about how to confront our fatigue. How do you like your coffee?
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This week Phil and Adam share clips from past episodes:
- WSRT.S2.Ep4: Dr. McGhee shares a stirring movie scene performance of Mahalia Jackson.
- WSRT.S2.Ep5: Azia shares the meaning behind the title of the journalism project that she is leading.
- WSRT.S2.Ep6: Adam shares learning to distinguish inauthenticity from professionalism.
- WSRT.S2.Ep7: Dr. Smith shares her favorite style of Gospel Music and gives a snapshot of the progression of Sacred African American Music
- WSRT.S2.Ep7: Dr. Smith talks about the Importance of Representation
- WSRT.S2.Ep8: Janette suggests how arts organizations better represent the communities around them
- WSRT.S2.Ep11: Adam shares his three legged stool for choral curriculum and both talk about community singing
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This week Phil and Adam talk about the other central day on the Christian calendar. They talk about the significates of Easter, and the season of Lent that precedes it. There is a glitch during the episode. They share what is most memorable to them about the day.
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This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about Process vs. Product. Adam shares how he came to process over product pedagogical approach. They muse about a future where communities perform unrehearsed music for fun. Is Process vs. Product controversial? Adam talks about how the human brain is wired for process oriented learning.
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This week Phil and Adam talk about the phrase "Process vs Product". They talk about the meaning this pedagogically controversial phrase. They discuss how the phrase applies in education, and specifically music education.
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Phil and Adam talk about their Post Pandemic Plans this week. What are you looking forward to doing once it is fully safe to travel and socialize?
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This week Phil and Adam are joined by their first podcast guest. Janette LaBarre catches them up on what she has been doing since they last spoke. She shares how recent social movements are making donors more value conscious and thus making organizations consider their values. She shares how the pandemic may be slowing down diversity progress that organizations were working towards.
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This week Phil and Adam are joined by Dr. Smith to talk more African American Sacred Music. Dr. Smith, a highly accomplished musician, shares her musical beginnings. Music Education is a part of her story from it's early years. She weighes in on our on going conversation about authenticity. She shares her favorite style of Gospel music and gives us a snapshot of the historical progression of African American Sacred Music. She talks about the importance of representation. You will hear how teaching choirs in the Black Church joins integral parts of herself. Mentioned in Episode: https://www.pbs.org/weta/black-church/
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Phil and Adam continue their conversation about being authentic. Phil shares his inspiration for reflecting on authenticity. They share moments when one might pretend. They also talk about the nuance of being authentic.
Articles on Respectability Politics:
- https://www.nps.gov/articles/democracy-limited-the-politics-of-respectability.htm
- https://medium.com/@sheneversleeps/how-respectability-politics-stifle-black-self-expression-c162d9418ff
- https://www.theroot.com/the-definition-danger-and-disease-of-respectability-po-1790854699
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This week Phil and Adam talk to a returning guest. Azia Wiggins helps answer a voice message. She also shares about her journalism project. She tells them about the most authentic people in her life. They all talk about Code-Switching vs Inauthenticity.
Adam's Artist Suggestions for Appreciating the Spiritual (many more could be added): American Spiritual Ensemble, Kathleen Battle, Leontyne Price, William Warfield, Simon EsteGrace, Bumbry, Paul Robeson, Shirley Verrett, Jessye Norman, Lawrence Brownlee, Pretty Yende, Marian Anderson, Denyce Graves, Willard White, Seth McCoy
Phil's Artist Suggestions for Appreciating Black Gospel (many more could be added): Fred Hammond, Hezekiah Walker, Donald Lawrence, John P. Kee, Kirk Franklin, Clark Sisters, Rance Allen, Canton Spirituals, Jonathan McReynolds, Kim Burrell, Mississippi Mass Choir, the Winans, BeBe and CeCe Winans, Marvin Winans, any Mass Choir
Azia's Article: Sick And Tired: No Time To Rest For The Resilient Black Woman In Mississippi
Develop Authenticity: 20 Ways to Be a More Authentic Person
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This week Phil and Adam have a conversation with Dr. Jeffery McGhee, Vocal Faculty at Roberts Wesleyan College. Dr. McGhee talks about his earliest musical experiences. He also talks about his formative encounters with Spirituals. He gives advice on who can, and how to sing a Spiritual. He shares some Spirituals and Gospel songs that move him.
Mentioned in the Episode: Mahalia Jackson - Trouble Of The World (Imitation Of Life - 1959)
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This Week Phil and Adam are talking about their New Year's Resolutions or maybe not having New Year's Resolutions. Adam tells whether or not he has made resolutions this year. Phil shares some life long resolutions. Adam talks know the difference between our words intention vs. their function. They share a phrase that will help every Christian this year.
Article mentioned in the episode: Good News for Resolution Failures
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This week Adam is back! Phil and Adam talk about how the US heals after intensely divisive political time. Adam offer four thoughts on healing our current situation. Phil shares a thought on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. " Letter from a Birmingham Jail". They both discuss music educator responsibility in these times.
Link to the "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" and audio in MLKJ on voice:
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Happy New Year!! This week Phil and Adam are joined by Eric Severson. Eric is co-hosting in Adam's place because of voice affecting illness. They reflect on the Riot at the US Capitol. They also talk about what they have learned over the past year or beginning of this year.
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This week Phil and Adam talk Christmas. They share their family traditions during Christmas. They talk about their favorite Christmas Carol. What are your favorite Christmas Carols?
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This week Phil and Adam reflect on the season of Advent, Season of Waiting. They talk about it's meaning. Also, They reflect on music and scripture of this season. How do you observe the season of Advent, please share?
Articles Mentioned:
The Message of Advent Never Changes
The Puzzle of Sin
Want to Get Into the Christmas Spirit? Face the Darkness
What I saw at The Jericho March
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This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about friendship. They revisit Jesus’s message in John 15:12-17. Then they talk about how the church sees singleness vs. marriage. How does the affection or a lack of affection from a father to a son affect how the child builds deep friendships in adulthood? Finally, are you my friend as I am?
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This week Phil and Adam talk about friendship. With an article from The Washington Post for reference, Adam point to the Crisis of Friendship in the US. They look at David and Jonathan's relationship as a possible model for Biblical Friendship. Adam gives some helps on how to build and cultivate meaningful friendships.
The Washington Post Article: No game days. No bars. The pandemic is forcing some men to realize they need deeper friendships.
Bible References: 1 Samuel 18:1–4; 20:41–42; 2 Samuel 1:23, 26; John 15:12–17
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This week Phil and Adam are invited to collaborate with Ryan Case on his podcast. They share with Ryan's audience how their lives have changed in 2020. Ryan askes them about how their teaching has changed during the pandemic. Phil and Adam talk about what they have learned in 2020.
Ryan's Podcast: Staying on the Narrow Path
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How did you choose those pieces to sing? This week Phil and Adam talk choosing concert repertoire with some of Adam's current students. They share their memorable Chorale moments. They settle the question of program music or absolute music? Adam also gives some guidelines for programming a concert.
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Phil and Adam have a conversation with Pastors TJ Campo, and Phil Letizia of Park Road Presbyterian Church. Phil L. talks about rethinking "Following Jesus" in relation to people with profound disabilities, which is also the topic of his dissertation. TJ mentions the phrase "Need Love" which is revisited in various ways throughout the conversation. They both reflect on how pastoral ministry is different during COVID-19. After some encouragement, TJ and Phil L. share how Christian can reset as this contentious election cycle ends.
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Everyone take a breath, this week Phil and Adam reflection on the ending of the 2020 US Presidential Election. They discuss the undermining of the US voting process, election integrity vs. voter suppression, and needing Jesus. What are your thoughts, fellow citizens and international observers alike?
Disclaimer: Adam asks for mercy and grace as you listen. While being respectful, he is more unfiltered in this episode than most.
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Roll out the red carpet!! Phil and Adam are joined by their #1 Fan to have a conversation on Christian Education. Michelle shares her start in Christian Ed. They discuss the phrase "thinking God's thoughts after Him". Hear the pro and con of Christian Ed in comparison to other forms of education. Michelle shares how the Family, Church, and School come together in discipline to share grace and lovely correct students. Listen to the end to learn about Zoom Day.
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This week Phil and Adam revisit the phrase, " you don't know, what you don't know". They talk about how not knowing, (ignorance) can affect your life externally and how you see yourself internal. The conversation ends with talking about needing, and being an advocate for those who don't know, and not in positions of power. Hear their first voice message, and consider sharing the second.
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This week Phil and Adam discuss the Christian View of Calling. They ask questions like is it a fixed thing for your entire life? Adam gives three guides for considering a calling or vocation. He shares what Mother Gloria Gaither taught him about calling.
The Article Mentioned in Current Events: 2020 Is a Great Year for the Church
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This week Phil and Adam discuss the phrase " You don't know, what you don't know". Is ignorant an offensive word? They also reflect on moments of ignorants in their lives. Article links referenced to in the show: Do You Know What You Don't Know? from Harvard Business Review The Power of Not Knowing. from Mission.org
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This week Phil and Adam have a conversation with Cailten Barron, WSRTwPA(C). They share memories of their time together at Delta State University. Cailten shares her encouraging story about transitioning from teaching music to being an athletic missionary in Canada. They talk about remembering who the church is during COVID-19.
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There is no episode this week. Please, look out for our episode clips on Facebook and YouTube.
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Phil and Adam are solo this week talk personal career goals. They discuss how you can be passionate and anxious about your work at the same time. They talk about the future of their careers. Phil brings up the saying "Those who can't Do, Teach".
They mention the college choir that Adam conducts and in which Phil sung. Here is a link to their Instagram Page.
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This week Phil and Adam revisit their conversation about liturgy with Pastor Anthony Selvaggio. Anthony shares a personal note about his early influences in Reformed Theology and Liturgy. He compares, and contrast being a one man band liturgist, and ordering by committee. They discuss how music can be a uniting force in liturgy. In this time of anxiety, fear, and sadness Anthony points to the Psalm as a spiritual vocabulary to talk with Jesus.
Rochester Christian Reformed Church YouTube Channel
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Both teachers, Phil and Adam muse their schools reopening during COVID-19. Phil is teaching in elementary school and Adam in college. Administrators, Educators, Parents, how are your school's opening experience going?
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Phil was tripping over himself the whole episode this week because Mrs. Yvonne Matthews graced them with her presence. They only scratched the surface of stories and wisdom that Mrs. Matthews could share. She has been and is a surrogate mother to so many students in her life. Mrs. Matthews shares how many of those student have given back to her.
Website: https://yvonnematthewsmusic.com/ | Facebook: @yvonnematthewsmusic | Instagram: yvonnematthews_music | Twitter: @yvonnes_music
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Phil and Adam talk about liturgy this week with Ryan Luhrs. Ryan gives an acronym to focus our understanding of liturgy. They also talk about how Ryan uses choral music of different traditions to bring people together.
Link: The Hymn of the Week Virtual Choir
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This week Phil and Adam reflect on starting a podcast. Adam has a candid real time response to breaking news. What moments have you enjoyed from the first 10 episodes of their podcast?
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This week Phil and Adam continue their conversation about Church Music with Gary Matthews. Gary expresses in various ways that music is the vehicle God has given him to minister to people. He gives wisdom on how to expand the repertoire of a given congregation. He shares with Phil and Adam the three characteristics need to lead worship.
Contact Gary: garym@christmemorial.org | https://www.silverandbronze.com/gary-and-martha-matthews
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This week Phil and Adam talk being a musician and music leader in the church with Julie Smith. Julie shares her musical journey in church and about those who helped her along the way. She gives insight on how she releases while leading the congregation in music. They talk about the deliciousness of Julie's food Instagram page.
Julie's Contact Info: smith_julie@pearcechurch.org | IG: juliee.smith624 | Facebook: Julie Smith
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Azia Wiggins reflects with Phil and Adam about developing and rediscovering writing. She talks about her recent piece Ode to Black Men. Phil and Adam ask her about her passion for her hometown.
Click here for Azia's piece
Contact Azia:aziawiggins@yahoo.com | IG: Virtuousbeauty88 | Twitter: Mrahaba88
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Janette LaBarre joins Phil and Adam this week to talk about the Arts and COVID-19. They converse about how Arts organizations are pivoting during this time and how they can continue to innovate after the pandemic. She points to an Arts organization's mission statement to guide them through this time.
Her contact Info: janette.labarre@gmail.com
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Phil and Adam continue their conversation on servant leadership shaping choral culture. Current Events Corner gets a little spicy this week.
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Phil and Adam are starting a conversation about Servant Leadership. They talk about how this type of leadership influences a choir's culture.
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Phil and Adam official unveil the listener chosen title of their podcast. They continue their conversation about teachers and moments that lead them towards their musical professions. There is a conversation about brownies and the recurring segments.
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Adam and Phil share music teachers and moments that shaped them as young musicians. While retelling the moment Adam knew he wanted to be a choral director, he almost moves Phil to tears. Also, listen to the song that is a part of that moment.
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Credit:
- O Day Full of Grace sung by Luther College Nordic Choir conducted by Jeffery Douma
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Adam and Phil share their musical beginnings. They also introduce two recurring segments.
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In this first episode Adam Potter and Phil Woodard introduce themselves. They also discuss their commonalities and briefly share their personal stories.
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