The Play Based Learning Podcast: Recent Episodes

Kristen RB Peterson

All humans learn through play. Join Kristen RB Peterson of Learning Wild as she chats all things early childhood education, preschool, nature and forest school, homeschool and parenting. Find the magic in wonder based, child led learning. Get inspired to implement play based learning in your home, school, daycare or child care setting!

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In this episode, Kristen talks with Churmell Mitchell, creator of Emotions You Know, about helping children understand and express their feelings through play. They explore how connection, and not behavior charts, is the key to supporting challenging behaviors. Churmell shares his “refill” approach, reminding us that many kids are simply running on empty and need connection before correction. This conversation offers practical, relationship-focused ideas you can use right away in your classroom or home.

If you would like to learn more, they are doing a workshop together on May 12, 2026 called This is NOT a Behavior Chart Workshop. If you are listening to this before that date, be sure to go grab it for only $9; otherwise, the price will go up after May 12, 2026. It comes with 50 strategies, love trust and connection, Q&A time, a PD certificate, and lifetime access to the replay

Workshop Link: This is NOT a Behavior Chart Workshop

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Churmell here: @emotionsyouknow or at emotionsyouknow.com

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EP 85: Anji Play with Jesse Coffino

In this conversation, Kristen and Jesse explore what it really means to notice and understand children’s learning through play. They discuss how educators can reflect on play after it happens using open-ended questions, drawings, and storytelling rather than interrupting the moment. Jesse shares insights from Anji Play settings, where documentation is used to deepen understanding of children’s thinking rather than evaluate or control it. Together, they unpack how video and observation can support reflective practice while still honoring children’s autonomy and flow of play. The episode also offers a glimpse into an upcoming Anji study tour and the immersive learning experiences educators can expect.

Link to the first Video watched in the episode: First Video

Link to the second video watched in the episode: Second video

Study Tour Link: Anji Play June Study Tour

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Anji Play here: anjiplay.co

Find Jesse here: @anjiplay or at anjiplay.medium.com or facebook: Anji Play World

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In this episode, Kristen sits down with Jennifer Baumann to explore the power of play-based learning and the shift from control to trust in early childhood environments. Jennifer shares how she creates meaningful play invitations, uses sensory-rich materials, and thoughtfully designs her environment to support children’s natural curiosity. Together, they unpack what it really means to let go of adult expectations and follow children’s lead in play. This conversation is a powerful reminder that when we trust the environment and the children, real learning unfolds.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jennifer here: @playschoolsince1999 or at The Playschool

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In this episode, Kristen and Stacy talk about why traditional “Letter of the Week” teaching doesn’t work for young children. They explain how literacy actually develops through play, movement, and real experiences—not worksheets and memorization. You’ll learn what children really need to build strong reading and writing foundations in a developmentally appropriate way. This conversation will help educators feel more confident stepping away from pressure-driven literacy practices and trusting play instead.

Join Kristen’s Year of Yes Play:This is NOT a Letter of the Week Workshop on February 3rd 2026 for $9 where you can have a 2.5 hour training with 52 early literacy ideas to bring to your space! If it’s after February 3rd 2026, you will still be able to purchase the replay of the training.

Find the Literacy Training here: This is NOT a Letter of the Week Workshop

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Stacy here: @stacybengems or at Stacybenge.com

Find the Play Tours here: Play Tour Info

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In this episode, we unpack what process art really means and why it’s so much more valuable than cute, cookie-cutter crafts. We talk about letting children explore materials freely, make their own decisions, and build creativity, confidence, and problem-solving skills through open-ended art experiences. This episode is a reminder that children don’t need perfect projects… they need space to create.

Join Kristen’s Year of Yes Play: Process Art class on December 30th 2025 for $9 where you can have a 2.5 hour training with 52 creative process art ideas to bring to your space! If it’s after December 30th 2025, you will still be able to purchase the replay of the training.

Find the Process Art Training here: The Year of Yes: Process Art

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jessica here: @theartfulchild or at theartfulchild.com

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In this episode, Kristen and Kelly talk about how play can help support kids with IEPs in fun and meaningful ways. They share ideas on how teachers can focus less on the paperwork and more on the child. You’ll hear real examples of how play helps kids grow and reach goals while having fun. It’s all about making learning simple, joyful, and child-centered.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find kelly here: @kellyrosecds

Find Kelly’s IEP course and Play Schema Freebie here: Kelly's Courses

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In this episode, Kristen and Veronica talk about process art and why it’s more about the experience than the final product. They share how letting kids explore and create freely builds confidence and creativity. You’ll hear simple tips and real stories that remind us it’s okay to get messy and let go of perfection. It’s all about enjoying the process, not the outcome.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Veronica here: @tigerlilypreschoollearning or at tigerlilyschool.com

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Kristen chats with Amanda Morgan from Not Just Cute about what real rigor looks like in early childhood. Spoiler: it’s not worksheets or flashcards—it’s deep, meaningful play. This episode will boost your confidence to stand behind play-based learning and push back on the pressure to keep things “cute.”

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Amanda here: @amanda_notjustcute or at notjustcute.com

Facebook: Not Just Cute - Intentional Whole Child Development

Find Amanda’s Course here: Unlock the Power of Play in Your ECE Program

Find Amanda’s Book here: NOT JUST CUTE: How Powerful Play Drives Development in Early Childhood

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In this episode, Kristen is joined by Lynn Mulligan of Woodland Learning to share three of her favorite read-aloud books and the magic they bring to classrooms. They dive into the importance of wonder, outdoor learning, and playful approaches that keep literacy joyful and meaningful. Lynn also shares her unique Alphabet Adventures curriculum, blending imagination, nature, and standards to help children fall in love with learning.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Lynn Here: woodland_learning or at thespiralbear.com

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This episode dives into the importance of feeling confident in play-based learning and no longer hiding it because there is this pressure for academics. We talk about trusting yourself as an educator, standing firm in what you know is right for children, and giving yourself permission to fully embrace play. It’s all about shifting from defense to confidence and showing up boldly for kids and their learning.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Christi Here: @dirtlearning or at dirtlearning.com

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Take a listen as the wonderful Rae Pica and I talk all about topics in her most recent book Why Play?. This podcast episode explores the importance of risk-taking, big body play, and rough-and-tumble play in childhood development. Kristen and Rae discuss how societal fears often limit children's natural play instincts, sharing personal stories and research on the benefits of embracing risk in early education. They also provide practical advice for educators and parents on fostering a play-positive environment that builds confidence, resilience, and essential motor skills.

Get Rae's book here: Why Play

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In this episode, Kristen reads a chapter in her new book that just released I’m Not Getting Them Ready for Kindergarten- Breaking Tradition in Early Childhood Education.

Get the Book: Kristen Day's New Book

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

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This episode is part two on creativity with Beverly Beck, the creator of 'Happy Little Humans.' With over 20 years of experience in early childhood education, Beverly combines her passion for social-emotional well-being and creativity to inspire children through art and play. Her approach emphasizes compassion, curiosity, and connection, fostering confidence in children to grow in their own unique ways. Beyond education, Beverly is a mom of three, podcaster, entrepreneur, and award-winning artist, making her perspective both multifaceted and enriching.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Beverly here: @happylittlehumansplay or at happylittlehumans.com

Beverly’s Freebie: Art and Play Activities

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This episode is part two on creativity with Beverly Beck, the creator of 'Happy Little Humans.' With over 20 years of experience in early childhood education, Beverly combines her passion for social-emotional well-being and creativity to inspire children through art and play. Her approach emphasizes compassion, curiosity, and connection, fostering confidence in children to grow in their own unique ways. Beyond education, Beverly is a mom of three, podcaster, entrepreneur, and award-winning artist, making her perspective both multifaceted and enriching.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Beverly here: @happylittlehumansplay or at happylittlehumans.com

Beverly’s Freebie: Art and Play Activities

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This episode’s guest is Beverly Beck, the creator of 'Happy Little Humans.' With over 20 years of experience in early childhood education, Beverly combines her passion for social-emotional well-being and creativity to inspire children through art and play. Her approach emphasizes compassion, curiosity, and connection, fostering confidence in children to grow in their own unique ways. Beyond education, Beverly is a mom of three, podcaster, entrepreneur, and award-winning artist, making her perspective both multifaceted and enriching.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Creativity as Universal and Essential: Both Beverly and Kristen emphasized that creativity is fundamental to everything, from the chair we sit on to entrepreneurial ideas.
  2. Creativity as "Confetti": Kristen described creativity as "creative confetti," an energy floating around us. Ideas come unexpectedly, and if not used, they move on to someone else, aligning with Elizabeth Gilbert's concept of "Big Magic."
  3. Creativity in Education: Both discussed how the traditional education system stifles creativity, turning children into vessels of academic knowledge without fostering their creative potential. They referenced the importance of creativity in the modern workforce.
  4. Creativity as Problem-Solving: Kristen and Beverly see creativity not just as artistic expression but as problem-solving and thinking outside the box.
  5. Personal Stories of Creativity: Both hosts shared personal childhood stories about creativity, highlighting how early experiences with thinking differently (e.g., Kristen’s circus contest) shaped their lifelong approach to creative thinking.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Beverly here: @happylittlehumansplay or at happylittlehumans.com

Beverly’s Freebie: Art and Play Activities

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Dr. Jasmine Moses is an Anti-Bias Early Childhood Educator dedicated to helping parents and teachers raise and teach the next generation. With a background as an early childhood teacher and Non-profit community worker, she is passionate about promoting fairness and equity from a young age. Her work aims to create inclusive and respectful environments for all children and their families. She offers resources, professional development, and support for implementing Anti-Bias and Anti-Racist practices.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Call In, Don’t Call Out: Encouraging conversations around biases by "calling in" rather than "calling out" invites reflection, openness, and growth, creating a collaborative learning environment.
  2. Reflect and Unlearn: Just as with anti-bias work, advocating for play-based learning requires ongoing reflection, a willingness to unlearn old perspectives, and a commitment to continuous growth.
  3. The Power of Teachers in Shaping Experiences: Teachers hold significant influence in shaping children’s understanding of the world and their biases. Their approach can either reinforce or dismantle harmful stereotypes.
  4. Be Comfortable with Discomfort: Growth often happens through discomfort. Educators must lean into uncomfortable conversations and situations to foster meaningful change in their classrooms and communities.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Dr. Jasmine here: @theantibiasece

Grab Dr. Jasmine's book list here: Free Book List

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Jesse Coffino is an educator, author, translator, dad and CEO of Anji Education, Inc. The guy who has spent the last decade introducing True Play and the practices of Anji Play to the world outside of China.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Reflective Practice: Teachers benefit significantly from observing and reflecting on videos of children's play. This practice helps educators understand and improve their teaching strategies.
  2. Cultural Context of Napping: Kristen and Jesse talk about how in China, extended nap times for children are culturally supported and integrated into the daily routine, contrasting with the U.S. where nap times are often limited.
  3. Importance of Care: Successful education systems prioritize care, safety, and responsiveness to individual needs, aiming to create supportive and nurturing learning environments.
  4. Global Spread of Anji Play: Anji Play principles, introduced by Jesse Coffino, emphasize joyful discovery and reflection, influencing educational practices globally.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jesse here: @anjiplay or at anjiplay.medium.com or facebook: Anji Play World

Find the Year long scope and sequence here: anjiplay.com

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Samuel and Kisa are fierce childhood advocates and the authors of Rethinking Weapon Play in Early Childhood.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Reflect on Decisions: Educators should regularly examine their reasons for saying "no" to certain play, ensuring they align with the children's best interests.
  2. Value Unrestricted Play: Allow diverse forms of play, like weapon play, to support children's learning and development, while maintaining safety.
  3. Recognize Adult Biases: Avoid letting personal traumas or biases limit children's play; seek support if needed to manage these feelings.
  4. Evolve Practices: Be open to new research and ideas, moving beyond outdated educational practices to better support children's growth.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Kisa here: @iam_still_learning or at Contact here

Find Samuel here: honoringchildhood or at honoring childhood.org

Find their book here: Rethinking Weapon Play in Early Childhood

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Kara is a Play and Mindset Coach and your partner-in-fun on the path to healing perfectionism and rekindling your playful, creative spirit. Kara’s message is that play is anything but fluffy; it’s the secret sauce to more health, confidence, creativity, and joy (science says so too!). It's also a powerful healing tool to help us release perfectionism and connect with our inner child.

Key Takeaways:

  1. The Importance of Play in Adulthood: Play is essential not just for children but also for adults. It helps in reconnecting with our inner child, alleviating stress, and fostering creativity.
  2. Healing Through Play: Engaging in playful activities can be a healing process, especially for those who have experienced trauma or high levels of stress. Play can help in processing emotions and releasing tension.
  3. Barriers to Play: Many adults struggle with incorporating play into their lives due to societal expectations, self-imposed limitations, or the belief that play is not a productive use of time.
  4. Practical Tips for Embracing Play: Simple strategies like setting aside time for spontaneous activities, being open to new experiences, and allowing oneself to be imperfect can help adults invite more play into their lives.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Kara Here: @theplayfulwarrior

Discover your playful personality here: Take the Quiz

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Anande Ferreira is a mama and pediatric occupational therapist with a special interest in playfulness and sensory integration. She has over 10 years experience supporting children and their families. Upon completion of her Masters degree focused on playfulness, she presented her research at the World Federation of Occupational Therapy Congress and has published in the Occupational Therapy International Journal. On this podcast Her and Kristen talk about what play looks like and what people's expectations are of play.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Misconception of Play: Play can look different for everyone and sometimes caregivers think it should look a certain way with children. This can sometimes create concerns that may not need to be concerns.
  2. Play in Diverse Settings: Integrating play in various settings, including structured and unstructured environments, supports different aspects of development and learning.
  3. Role of Adults: Adults should facilitate and support play without overly directing it, allowing children the freedom to guide their own play experiences and creativity.
  4. Play and Emotional Health: Play provides a safe space for children to manage their emotions, build resilience, and develop coping strategies in a non-threatening way.

Do you find yourself wondering what play really looks like? Then this episode is for you.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Anande here: @playmoreot

Find Anande’s course here: Making sense of It

Find Anande’s Book here: Born to Play

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Beth Duttera from Aut2ask, an autistic woman-led initiative uplifting autistic voices. Her support survey has over 2k voices from the autism community (inc educators!) speaking on how the current system and supports are failing us all. Listen as Kristen asks questions about autism to help others have a better understanding.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Teacher Training Deficit: Kristen and Beth talk about how many teachers lack formal training about autism, hindering their ability to support autistic students.
  2. Diagnostic Challenges: They talk about how teachers struggle to discuss developmental issues with parents due to a lack of diagnostic authority and parental awareness.
  3. Harm of Masking: Beth and Kristen discuss how forcing autistic children to mask behaviors like avoiding eye contact or stimming can be damaging.
  4. Inclusive Education Need: They advocate how more inclusive practices and better support systems are essential for accommodating all students.

Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges stigmas and highlights the beauty of neurodiversity in education.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Beth Here: @aut2ask

Take Beth’s Data Survey: Survey Link

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Deborah MacNamara is a counselor, on Faculty at the Neufeld Institute and author of Rest Play Grow: Making Sense of Preschoolers (or anyone who acts like one), and Nourish: Connection, Food, and Caring for our Kids (and everyone else we love). Join Deborah and I as we tackle all things boredom.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Boredom Boosts Creativity: Boredom fosters creativity and self-initiated play in children, encouraging imagination.
  2. Parental and Educator Roles: Parents and educators should guide children through boredom, supporting their independence and self-entertainment.
  3. Imaginative Play Benefits: Encouraging imaginative play with simple toys or self-created games enhances creativity and expression.
  4. Balancing Screen Time: Limiting screen time and promoting physical and imaginative play is crucial for children's development.

I’m sure at some point in your life you have heard the words “I’m Bored!”. This podcast will cover the ins and outs of boredom and why it can actually be a good thing!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Deborah here: @drdeborahmacnamara or at macnamara.com

Find Deborah’s books here: Rest, Play, Grow: Making Sense of Preschoolers (Or Anyone Who Acts Like One) and Nourished: Connection, Food, and Caring for Our Kids (And Everyone Else We Love)

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Alicia Highland and I talk about ways to make environments more inclusive and also touch on what that can look like in nature based settings. Alicia completed her Master's in Curriculum and Instruction, with specializations in Environmental Education and Nonprofit Management, and a Master's in Elementary Education. Now that she is taking a break from the classroom to raise her two littles, Alicia is focusing her energies into creating a nature-based education community online and in her hometown.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Equity and Inclusion: Alicia and Kristen talk about how to create environments where all children feel safe and have equal access to opportunities by addressing systemic barriers and ensuring inclusion.
  2. Challenges: They talk about how early childhood education faces issues like low wages, lack of funding, and insufficient support, which hinder creating equitable educational spaces.
  3. Nature-Based Education: Kristen and Alicia cover ways to also help make nature-based education accessible to all children.
  4. Actionable Steps: They talk about how educators should educate themselves, use toolkits, have courageous conversations, and be open to feedback to create inclusive learning environments.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Alicia here: @tinygreenlearning or at www.tiny-green-learning.com

Find the implicit bias test: Project Implicit

Find the NAEYC toolkit here: Guide

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Listen as Prerna and I pick up from where we left off from after our last episode together (Episode 56). We talk about what happens when there is an absence of play and how it can affect behaviors in different ways.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Stress and Escalation of Behaviors: Kristen and Prerna talk about how the absence of play increases stress for both children and adults, leading to heightened and disruptive behaviors. Play is a natural way for children to process their emotions and reduce stress.
  2. Connection and Regulation: They talk about how crucial it is to build connections and help children regulate their emotions through play.
  3. Role of Educators: Prerna and Kristen give advice to educators about how to be present and respectful of children's play, waiting for invitations to join rather than controlling or directing it.
  4. Adjusting Schedules: Learn how some small changes to schedules, such as adding more outdoor playtime, can significantly reduce stress and improve behavior.

If you are struggling with different behaviors with children, this episode will give you lots of insights that can help you shift your mindset and make changes to set children up for success.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Prerna here: @togetherwegrow.online or at togetherwegrow.online.com

Also find Prerna on: Linkedin, Facebook, or YouTube

Listen to the other episode with Prerna here: Episode 56

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Join me as I learn a little more on what the Reggio Emilia Approach looks like with Jayda Rivera, the visionary behind Reggio Roots. With her work at a Playschool inspired by the Reggio Emilia approach, she aspires to nurture, develop, and guide individuals and educators who share her ideologies.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Understanding the Reggio Emilia Approach: Jayda talks with Kristen about how the Reggio Emilia approach emphasizes the image of the child as an active participant in their own learning. It is child-led, similar to Montessori and play-based learning, focusing on the natural development and expression of children.
  2. Environment as an Extension of Home: They talk about how in Reggio Emilia-inspired schools, the environment is designed to feel like a second home. Learn some ways to incorporate things into your space that make it feel cozy.
  3. Importance of Observation: Jayda highlights the significance of constantly observing and taking notes on children's behavior and interactions. This helps educators understand each child deeply and tailor the learning environment and activities to their needs and interests.
  4. Holistic Child Expression: Jayda and Kristen talk about the idea of the "hundred languages of children" suggesting that children have numerous ways to express themselves beyond verbal communication. Educators should provide various outlets for expression, including art, music, movement, and play.

If you aren’t familiar with or have ever been interested in learning more about the Reggio Emilia Approach, this is a great episode to get more info!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jayda here: @reggio_roots

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In this episode, I am talking with Mariana Carazo, a Columbia University graduate with a Master's in Curriculum and Teaching and over 20 years in education. Currently, she pioneers a play-based homeschooling approach for her children, embodying her belief in reimagining education. Mariana actively advocates for play as a transformative tool in 21st-century education, both at home and in traditional schooling environments.

Key Takeaways:

  1. The Importance of Play in Learning: Kristen and Mariana emphasize that play is essential for children's cognitive development, mental health, and executive functioning.
  2. Flexible and Meaningful Learning Environments: Mariana talks with Kristen about highlighting the benefits of open-ended play spaces and flexible seating arrangements. These setups allow children to move, choose their seating, and engage with learning materials in a way that suits their individual needs and preferences.
  3. Real-World Applications of Learning: They talk about how teaching with a purpose is central to Mariana's approach. She ensures that what children learn is connected to real-life applications, making education more relevant and engaging.
  4. Mixed-Age Group Benefits: Mariana and Kristen know the power of mixed-age groups. Older children help younger ones, and all students benefit from the diverse range of skills and perspectives within the group.

Have you been toying with the idea of homeschooling or looking into other options besides traditional schooling? Or maybe you are in a traditional school setting and looking to make some adjustments? This episode will give you lots of great info and give you ideas on how to create a more playful space for school age children.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Mariana here: @developingminds or at developingmindsus.com

Link about Flexible seating here: flexible classroom

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In this episode, I am talking to my good friend Tiffany Pearsall, a passionate play advocate and the founder of Play Frontier, a groundbreaking nonprofit childcare center. Join us as we chat about what child led learning and Emergent Curriculum looks like in play based settings.

Key Takeaways:

  1. "Greatest Hits" Approach: Kristen and Tiffany talk about how creating successful activities helps teachers anticipate and respond to children's interests and what child led learning and emergent curriculum can look like.
  2. Relationships Are Key: Strong teacher-child relationships enable tailored learning experiences.
  3. Child-Led vs. Emergent Curriculum: Both terms focus on responding to children's interests.
  4. Reflective Documentation: Despite challenges, documenting experiences is essential for reflection and extending learning.

If you’ve been curious about what child led learning and Emergent curriculum looks like, then this podcast is a great one to listen to!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Tiffany here: @playfrontier or at playfrontier.org

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Today’s episode features an inspiring conversation with Tiffany Pearsall, a passionate play advocate and the founder of Play Frontier, a groundbreaking nonprofit childcare center. Join us as we chat about Tiffany’s journey, from the challenges of relocation to the exciting moment she secured a million-dollar grant to bring her vision to life. Learn about the creative process behind crafting a space that fosters joy, growth, and endless possibilities for children.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Innovative Learning Environments: Kristen and Tiffany talk about creating innovative learning environments that integrate nature, sensory experiences, and community food production gardens.
  2. Customized Facilities: Tiffany talks about their customized facilities like sensory sinks and playground equipment, tailored to meet the needs of young learners and enhance their sensory experiences.
  3. Grant Writing Strategies: Tiffany shares insights into successful grant writing, emphasizing the importance of making grant-funded programs self-sustainable and focusing on measurable outcomes to demonstrate impact.
  4. Organizational Efficiency: Inspired by principles of industrial organizational psychology, Tiffany ensures efficiency in classroom design, staff workflow, and grant utilization to maximize impact and resources through Play Frontier.
  5. Persistence and Vision: Tiffany and Kristen highlight the importance of persistence and having a clear vision to achieve organizational goals, emphasizing strategic planning and iterative progress towards their mission.

Have you been wanting to open a space for children, but would love some advice and inspiration? This is a great podcast episode to do just that!

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Today I am chatting with Faigie Kobree, a former preschool and kindergarten teacher, director, and now an elementary school art teacher using the choice based TAB method. She also educates teachers how to switch from copycat crafts to creative art.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Process-based Learning: Kristen and Faigie emphasize learning through exploration, curiosity, and trial-and-error rather than focusing solely on the end product.
  2. Messy Play: They encourage others to embrace the messiness of art for young children as a natural part of the learning process, encouraging experimentation with various materials.
  3. Individualized Support: Faigie and Kristen talk about how to offer guidance and assistance based on each child's needs and interests, while also allowing them the freedom to explore and create independently.
  4. Artistic Growth: Kristen and Faigie help you to understand that artistic abilities evolve over time, with children progressing from exploratory scribbles and messy play to more intentional and refined creations as they grow.

Want to dive a little deeper into process art over crafts and when it’s ok for adults to give some ideas and guidance without making the art a craft? Then this episode is for you.

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Today I am chatting with Reagan Fulton, Founder of Playful Acre and advocate for integrating play into daily life for all ages. We chat about the importance of adults including play into their own lives. It is essential not only for children, but for us too!

Key Takeaways:

  1. Play is Essential for All Ages: Reagan and Kristen emphasize the importance of play not only for children but also for adults. Play is seen as a vital aspect of life that contributes to well-being and happiness.
  2. Reclaiming Play as Adults: They encourage adults to reclaim play in their lives by prioritizing activities that bring them joy and curiosity. Reagan shares how adults have to challenge societal norms that discourage them from engaging in playful activities.
  3. Setting Boundaries for Play: Kristen and Reagan talk about the importance of setting boundaries to create time for play amidst busy schedules. They suggest strategies such as scheduling playtime on calendars and parallel playing with children to prioritize personal play.
  4. Overcoming Societal Stigmas: They have a discussion about societal pressures that discourage playfulness as individuals transition from childhood to adulthood and encourage listeners to challenge these stigmas and embrace playfulness in their lives.
  5. Promoting Self-Care through Play: Play is presented as a form of self-care that can replenish energy and foster creativity. Kristen and Reagan want listeners to explore activities that bring them joy and fulfillment, emphasizing the benefits of incorporating play into daily routines.

Do you feel like you are in an everyday routine taking care of everyone else and forgetting that you need play in your life as well? This podcast may be the push you need to start adding some play for yourself!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Reagan here: @playful.reagan or at playfulacre.com and Facebook

Find Reagan’s 30 Days of Play challenge here: 30 Days Of Play

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Today I am chatting with Prerna Richards, an early childhood education consultant and keynote speaker with 38 years of experience in ECE. Prerna started her own company called Together We Grow, providing professional development, behavior coaching and NAEYC consulting. She believes in empowering and uplifting educators and does that through training and strength-based behavior coaching. She’s a firm believer that when we know better, we do better. In this episode, we will chat about the connection between brain behaviors and play.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Play as the Cornerstone: Both Kristen and Prerna emphasize the importance of play in early childhood education, highlighting its role in reducing challenging behaviors and creating joyful learning environments.
  2. Mindset Shift: Prerna discusses how adults should adopt a responsive approach by becoming behavior detectives and understanding the emotions behind children's actions rather than being reactive.
  3. Connect Before Correct: Kristen and Prerna share about how to build strong connections with children through empathy and understanding. This reduces the need for constant correction, fostering a more positive learning environment.
  4. Authentic Engagement: Genuine, authentic engagement involves following children's lead, respecting their perspectives, and fostering meaningful interactions that prioritize their thoughts, feelings, and experiences over rote questioning or directives.

Do you find yourself curious about how lack of play can affect children and how they behave? Then this is a great podcast to listen to!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Prerna here: @togetherwegrow.online or at togetherwegrow.online.com

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Today I am chatting with Kayla Souza who opened a small play and nature based preschool that she runs from my home and backyard after working for 20 years in traditional classrooms. In this episode we talk about one of my current favorite things to talk about and that is letting go and freeing the glue!

Key Takeaways:

  1. Getting Creative With Glue: Kristen and Kayla talk about ways to encourage children's creativity by providing a variety of materials for them to explore with glue, such as recycled lids, egg cartons, wooden pieces from games, and puzzle pieces.
  2. Exploring Different Types of Glue: Kristen and Kayla suggest offering different types of glue, including white glue, glue sticks, and low-heat glue guns, depending on the project and children's preferences, while ensuring proper supervision, especially with tools like glue guns.
  3. Budget-Friendly Options: They talk about different examples of budget friendly options.
  4. Trusting the Process: Kristen and Kayla tak about trusting children's natural curiosity and interests, allowing them the freedom to explore materials and projects at their own pace, even if it means revisiting certain activities over time.
  5. Starting Small: They talk about how you can begin with simple, low-cost projects using recycled materials and basic art supplies, gradually expanding as you observe children's engagement and creativity flourish.

If you struggle with allowing children to explore glue, this podcast may help you have a different perspective and give you all the reasons to start freeing the glue! If you already support freeing the glue but cost is the issue then tune in to hear suggestions on what else you can do!

Free the Glue Party sign up Here: Free the Glue Party

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Kayla here: @littlelilacpreschool or at littlelilacpreschool.com

Find Kayla's Glue PDF here: Free the Glue Guide

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Today I am chatting with Jess Teixeira, a certified speech-language pathologist in Massachusetts who specializes in supporting gestalt language processors and their families through direct services and parent and professional consultations and coaching. Have you ever heard of Gestalt Language Processing? If not, you have to listen in because this information can help us understand children so much more!

Key Takeaways:

  1. What is Gestalt Language Processing: Jess explains Gestalt language processing as a different way children develop language, emphasizing that it's a normal variation in language development.
  2. Collaboration Among Parents, SLPs, and Educators: Jess highlights the importance of collaboration among parents, speech language pathologists (SLPs), and educators in supporting Gestalt language processors.
  3. Challenges: Kristen and Jess discuss the challenges families face, including pushback from educators and the mismatch between school curriculums and the needs of Gestalt language processors.
  4. Approaches to Literacy: Jess explains how Gestalt language processors may approach phonemic awareness and alphabet knowledge differently, depending on individual interests and developmental stages.
  5. Implementing Supportive Strategies in the Classroom: Jess and Kristen suggest practical strategies for educators, such as using declarative language or "sports casting" to support communication in the classroom.

Curious about Gestalt Language Processing just like I was? Then you need to listen to this podcast to learn what it’s all about!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jess here: @jesstheslp or at @playhavenpediatrics

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Today I am chatting with Stacy Benge, an early childhood speaker who approaches learning in the early years with practicality and common sense. Stacy is the author of the new book, The Whole Child Alphabet: How Young Children Actually Develop Literacy, published by Exchange Press. Listen as we talk about how young children actually develop literacy skills.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Understanding the Role of Alphabet in Literacy: Stacy and Kristen emphasize that while the alphabet is important for literacy, it's just one component among many.
  2. Shifting Perspective on Alphabet Learning: Stacy suggests instead of viewing alphabet learning as a matter of teaching, to see it as a process of development. Children need to develop foundational skills before they can effectively learn the alphabet, and play-based activities support this development.
  3. Encouraging Play-Based Learning Environments: Stacy and Kristen give ideas on how to create environments rich in open-ended materials and opportunities for child-led play. These environments support the development of literacy skills in a natural and meaningful way.
  4. Balancing Play-Based Learning with Curriculum Requirements: Stacy and Kristen acknowledge the challenge of balancing play-based learning with curriculum requirements. Stacy suggests finding ways to incorporate play into structured activities and advocating for the importance of play in achieving curriculum goals.

Are you feeling the pressure that children need to learn the alphabet in certain ways that doesn’t feel developmentally appropriate? Then this episode is for you and the stakeholders in your program.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Stacy here: @stacybengems or at stacybenge.com

Find Stacy’s book here: The Whole Child Alphabet: How Young Children Actually Develop Literacy

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Today I am chatting with Megg Thompson, a neuro-affirming behavior consultant that uses LOVE-based strategies to help kids be their absolute best! In this episode we talk about doing away with behavior charts, stickers, rewards, and more. Tune in to find out what we can do differently!

Key Takeaways:

  1. Behavior Charts and External Motivation: Megg and Kristen emphasize that behavior charts, stickers, tokens, and other external motivators diminish internal motivation in children. These strategies may seem effective in the short term but can lead to long-term issues and undermine true learning and motivation.
  2. Developmental Appropriateness: They highlight that traditional behavior management techniques are often not developmentally appropriate for all children. While some may respond positively, others may experience increased anxiety, perfectionism, or depression, leading to adverse effects on their well-being.
  3. Play-Based Solutions: Both Kristen and Megg advocate for play-based approaches to behavior and social-emotional learning. They argue that allowing children to engage in unstructured play fosters natural social skill development and reduces the need for coercive behavior management tactics.
  4. Importance of Social and Emotional Learning (SEL): Kristen and Megg stress the significance of social and emotional learning in early childhood education. They emphasize that educators should prioritize fostering social skills and emotional regulation over traditional academic instruction.

Are you someone who uses or questions the use of behavior charts and other behavior management strategies and want to know what to do differently? This podcast is for you!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Megg here: @meggthompson or at meggthompson.com

Check out Megg’s Masterclass and get 50% off with code: HALFOFF

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Today I am chatting with Em about all things research! Emily Clark, M. Ed is an international early childhood education advocate with teaching certifications from both the US and the UK. She founded EarlyEdEm.com to bring real early childhood research to the real educators who need it most.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Access to Research: Research can feel overwhelming and inaccessible to many educators, and Kristen and Em talk about how having access to research can empower teachers to deepen their understanding of classroom practices and make informed decisions.
  2. Empowering Practice: They talk about how research empowers educators to step back from their day-to-day activities and gain insights into different perspectives and approaches. It provides validation for their gut feelings and allows them to make more informed decisions.
  3. Finding your own Research: Em and Kristen talk about tips and tricks on ways you can find and gather research on topics that you are interested in or wanting to use to teach/show others.
  4. Reevaluating Traditional Practices: Em and Kristen talk about how important it is for educators to be open to re-evaluating traditional practices in light of new research findings. For example, research may challenge assumptions about practices like calendar time or seating arrangements, prompting educators to reconsider their approaches.

Do you find it overwhelming and challenging to find research when it comes to developmentally appropriate practices? This podcast is for you! Listen to Kristen and Em talk about all things research!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Em Here: @earlyedem or at Earlyedem Sign up for her FREE webinar HERE

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Today I am chatting with Ana Valle Rivera, a proud mother of three, a public speaker, a consultant, and the founder of Early Years Thriving. In this episode, we explore the significance of pedagogical documentation in early childhood education, emphasizing its role in understanding and supporting authentic play-based learning experiences while offering insights into fostering effective educator-parent communication.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Role in Play-Based Learning Environments: Ana and Kristen talk about what pedagogical documentation is and how it plays a crucial role in understanding the learning that unfolds within a play-based environment.
  2. Shift from Product to Process: Ana explains how there needs to be an emphasis on shifting from product-based documentation, like showcasing finished art, to a process-oriented approach. Pedagogical documentation involves going beyond the surface and delving into the deeper meaning of children's actions, interests, and inquiries.
  3. Role in Educator-Parent Relationships: They talk about how pedagogical documentation is a tool for educators to communicate with parents about the learning journey of their children. By providing detailed documentation, educators take the responsibility off the child, offering insights into the meaningful experiences and learning occurring in the early childhood setting.
  4. Creative Approaches to Documentation: Ana and Kristen share some examples and ways that educators can get creative with how they document children's experiences.

Are you looking for ways to better understand the learning that is happening while children play? Seeking how to help families see all the learning that happens while they “just play”? Documentation can be the answer, listen to this episode to find out how!

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Ana here: @earlyyearsthriving or at anavallerivera.com or at earlyyearsthriving.com

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Today I am chatting with Melysa Mei who is a preschool teacher that practices an open-ended child-led philosophy through play and is also the founder and CEO of Pre-K Spot. We discuss how to meet the requirements for using boxed curriculum in a play-based setting.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Flexibility Within Structure: Melysa emphasizes the importance of understanding and leveraging the flexibility within structured curriculums. While there are requirements to meet, finding ways to infuse play and creativity is crucial.
  2. Observation and Documentation: Deep diving into documentation, such as photos and videos, provides a tangible way to showcase the power of play-based learning. Documentation not only reinforces the value of play but also helps educators observe and understand the learning process.
  3. Knowing Your Boundaries: Melysa emphasizes the importance of knowing the boundaries within which you can navigate. Having open conversations with those responsible for curriculum requirements helps educators understand where they can be creative while meeting set standards.
  4. Balancing Child-Led and Teacher-Initiated Activities: Striking a balance between child-led and teacher-initiated activities is crucial. While most of the learning is child-led, there are times when teacher-initiated projects or activities are necessary to meet specific requirements, providing a well-rounded educational experience.

Are you in a setting where you are required to use a boxed curriculum, but you are wanting to be play-based and need more help on balancing the two together? This is a great episode to help you with just that. Listen as Melysa talks to Kristen about how she navigates using curriculum in her play-based setting and tips on tackling the challenges that may go with it.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Melysa here: @prek.spot or at pre-kspot.com Grab her 5 Steps to More Play in the Classroom Ebook Freebie here or her Play Invitations for Scripted Curriculum - here

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Today I am chatting with Lindsey Nickoles who has been in the Early Childhood Development field for almost a decade and just started a new journey of being a Newborn Care Specialist and Parent Educator! We will be talking about the importance of personalized care, collaboration, and understanding the impact of sleep on a child's well-being and development.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Individualized Approach: Kristen and Lindsey talk about how to recognize that each child is unique, and there is no one-size-fits-all solution to sleep.
  2. Parent-Provider Collaboration: Kristen and Lindsey talk about how to foster open communication between childcare providers and parents regarding sleep routines. Discussing nap times, bedtime schedules, and any concerns can help align the practices at home and in childcare settings.
  3. Importance of Sleep Quality: Lindsey emphasizes the significance of quality sleep for children's overall development. She highlights the role of sleep in memory consolidation, mood regulation, and the enhancement of cognitive functions, emphasizing the connection between good sleep and effective learning through play.
  4. Creating a Supportive Environment: Kristen and Lindsey talk about ways to establish an ideal sleep environment in childcare settings. Additionally they discuss how to provide a smooth transition from naptime to post-nap activities, incorporating both solitary and group play to accommodate various preferences.

Are you a caregiver or childcare provider that has some struggles with naptime and/or bedtime? The tune into this episode because Kristen and Lindsey unravel the complexities of understanding and supporting child sleep. You’ll get some practical tips on how to ensure children are getting quality sleep.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Lindsey here: @thebrainthatplays or at The Brain That Plays

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Today I’m chatting with Finn Menzies, former early childhood educator turned family coach. We discuss how vital it is to shift from traditional teacher performance to authentic and real connections with caregivers. Discover the pivotal roles that play, trust, and open communication play in creating a more authentic educational experience for children and families.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Balancing Playfulness and Boundaries: Kristen and Finn share about the challenge of balancing playfulness and setting boundaries in parenting. Finn shares personal experiences, including playful interactions, while still maintaining a sense of boundaries.
  2. Embracing Contradictions and Vulnerability: Finn and Kristen stress the significance of embracing contradictions and vulnerabilities in parenting. They acknowledge that parents are human and make mistakes, and it's essential to model authenticity for children, allowing them to witness the full spectrum of human emotions and behaviors.
  3. Permission to Be Human: Give both adults and children permission to be human. Finn and Kristen express the need for more affirmative messages and fewer arbitrary "no's," fostering an environment that encourages personal growth and self-expression.
  4. Connective Communication: Kristen and Finn chat about the power of acknowledging and addressing vulnerabilities, sharing personal stories, and creating an open dialogue with children. Get some tips on how to build genuine connections in parent-child relationships.

Do you tend to struggle trying to truly be yourself with the families of the children in your care… this episode is for you! Kristen and Finn share their insights and tips for fostering those meaningful connections inside and outside the early childhood space.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Finn here: @finn.menzies or Schedule consult here

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Today I’m chatting with Jerica and Jules from The Connected Child, two former early childhood educators with over 25 years of expertise working with children & families. Their mission is to equip families with strategies designed specifically for their needs to strengthen relationships and form a deeper bond with their children. We discuss how to nurture connection and the fine line between control and healthy boundaries.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Shifting from Traditional Control to Child-Centered Boundaries: Kristen, Jerica, and Jules talk about the trap of control in traditional adult/child relationships. They discuss how to prioritize children’s needs to encourage autonomy, problem-solving, and communication.
  2. Recognizing Control Traps: Jerica and Jules share about where control stems from and why excessive control negatively impacts all involved.
  3. Differentiating Between Control and Healthy Boundaries: Kristen, Jerica, and Jules explore the distinction between control-driven actions and establishing boundaries that promote safety and learning. Learn how to observe children’s responses and emotions.
  4. Empowering Children: Respectful, clear communication is important to understand children’s perspectives, needs, and capabilities, fostering an environment that prioritizes children's growth and well-being.

If you have been struggling to authentically connect with your children or students and are seeking practical advice to create meaningful interactions within tight schedules, this episode is for you! Kristen, Jerica, and Jules will share their insights about how boundaries can be redefined as expectations and promises that offer stability and trust to children.

Recommended Book:

  • Beyond Behaviors: Using Brain Science and Compassion to Understand and Solve Children's Behavioral Challenges by Mona Delahooke

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jerica & Jules here: @the_connected_child, the-connected-child.com

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Today I’m chatting with Jean-Mari Dagarin, an advocate for play-based learning and developmentally appropriate practice (DAP). We define and explore the essence of DAP and its crucial role in childhood and how it fosters optimal learning environments for young children.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Protecting Childhood: DAP, according to Jean Marie, revolves around honoring and safeguarding childhood. It prioritizes play, exploration, and child-led learning, creating an environment that respects and nurtures children's natural development.
  2. Responsive Teaching: A hallmark of DAP is its responsiveness. Teachers adapt to the evolving needs of children, offering flexibility and organic learning experiences that cater to individual growth.
  3. Engagement Over Control: The emphasis shifts from control to engagement. Allowing children the freedom to make choices and supporting their autonomy leads to more enriching and fulfilling learning experiences.
  4. Inclusive Environment: A DAP environment is inclusive, embracing diversity and ensuring every child feels represented, respected, and included in the learning process.
  5. Teacher-Child Relationships: Building respectful, supportive relationships with both children and parents is pivotal. Mutual respect and understanding create an environment where learning flourishes.

If you’ve ever been stuck defining developmentally appropriate practice, or wonder how to embrace DAP, this episode’s for you! Jean-Mari and Kristen share ways to create an environment that prioritizes play, responsiveness, and respectful relationships.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or atKristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jean-Mari here: @the.early.childhood.pov and get a free guide on DAP here!

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Today I’m chatting with Beverly Beck, the mastermind behind Happy Little Humans, and we’re talking about one of my favorite things: creativity. We chat about creative expression and its profound impact on the social-emotional development of young children.

Key Takeaways:

  1. Creative Expression as Learning: Beverly elaborates on how creative expression isn't merely an activity but a way of existing in the world. It serves as a powerful tool for children to explore, learn, and understand the world around them.
  2. Art as a Universal Language: We discuss how art transcends boundaries, acting as a means of storytelling and communication. Beverly highlights its role as a universal language that connects us all.
  3. Nurturing Social-Emotional Skills: Beverly emphasizes the importance of children understanding themselves and their emotions, fostering social-emotional learning for self-acceptance and genuine expression.
  4. Holistic Early Childhood Education: We explore effective strategies for cultivating social-emotional skills in early childhood education. Beverly advocates for trust, safety, and authentic human connections within learning environments.
  5. Process Art and its Significance: Distinguishing process art from traditional craft projects, Beverly emphasizes the journey over the outcome. She shares insights into valuing exploration and learning in creative endeavors.

If you’ve ever wondered if you should stop a child that’s using scissors incorrectly while they are creating, this episode is for you! This episode is filled with practical tips and heartfelt wisdom to help children build self expression and self discovery.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Bev here: @happylittlehumansplay or at happylittlehumans.com

  • grab Bev's free guide with 20 art and play activities here

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Today, I’m chatting with Kristy DeGraaf, a family child care provider, trainer and childcare coach. Kristy started her career in social work and moved to Family Childcare 15 years ago after finding it hard to locate good care for her own children. We are talking about advocacy in Early Childhood Education and how you can get involved! Kristy sheds light on the importance of this despite the overwhelming challenges in the field.

Some key takeaways:

  1. Understanding Advocacy:
    Kristen and Kristy to explore the meaning of advocacy in early childhood education. They debunk common misconceptions, highlighting the importance of actively participating in shaping policies and regulations.
  2. Personal Journey in Advocacy:
    Kristy shares her journey, starting as a family child care provider, feeling overwhelmed by rules and regulations, to realizing the need for active involvement. She describes an eye-opening experience addressing legislative bodies to advocate for quality childcare programs.
  3. Challenges in Advocacy:
    Kristy emphasizes the challenges of advocating effectively, including the need to understand different perspectives, the importance of diplomatic communication, and navigating legislative processes.
  4. Community Engagement and Impact:
    Reflecting on successful initiatives in Utah, Kristy discusses how community efforts led to defeating unfavorable bills and eventually influencing new legislation that positively impacted early childhood programs.
  5. Practical Advocacy:
    Beyond large-scale efforts, Kristy highlights how advocacy can be practiced on a smaller scale. From social media posts to engaging in conversations, she underscores the power of collective action, even through seemingly small contributions.

If you have ever wondered how to be an advocate for early childhood, or where to start, this episode is for you! Kristen and Kristy discuss how to engage with established advocacy groups and emphasize that individual contributions, no matter how small, can lead to significant changes in early childhood education policies.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Kristy here: on IG @kristy.degraaf or on Facebook or at kristydegraaf.com

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Today I’m chatting with Jessica Borowets of The Artful Child, which began as an outside the box preschool run by her mother in the late 60’s. Jessica strongly believes that children learn through play, and with all their senses, and that every child deserves the freedom to explore art materials and sensory activities without interruption.

In this episode, we discuss process art and creativity in early childhood education. We define creativity and process art, discussing the differences between crafts and art. We touch on the challenge of embracing mess in creative play, the power of sensory activities, and practical strategies for introducing process-based art to early childhood programs.

Some key takeaways:

  1. Creativity and Process Art:Kristen and Jessica define process art and discuss its pivotal role in preschool education.Creativity is an essential tool for childhood development.
  2. Crafts vs. Art: Kristen and Jessica share about the difference between guided crafts and child-led art, and how the latter fosters creativity through freedom of expression.
  3. Embracing mess: Both Jessica and Kristen acknowledge the challenge some educators face with the mess of creative play. There is value in mess making and the way it encourages children to explore materials liberally to aid in their creative development.
  4. Time and Uninterrupted Play: Kristen stresses the importance of uninterrupted, extended periods for children's engagement in activities, allowing ample time for exploration and creative marination. Jessica and her both give loads of ideas to spark inspiration.

If you’ve ever wondered about why to allow for extended uninterrupted play and how to nurture children's creativity, this episode is for you! Kristen and Jessica advocate for environments that prioritize exploration, showcasing the incredible capabilities of children when provided with the freedom to create.

Recommended Book:

  • The Language of Art: Inquiry-Based Studio Practices in Early Childhood Settings by Ann Pelo

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Jessica here: @theartfulchild and get on the waitlist to join her upcoming digital course Create Your Enchanting Early Childhood Environment

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Today, I’m chatting with Lynne Mulligan, a passionate advocate for nature-based learning that founded a pre-K and kindergarten nature-based program. We discuss nature-based literacy in preschool settings, exploring practical strategies and creative approaches. Lynne shares a wealth of experience and ways to weave outdoor play seamlessly into literacy instruction.

Some key takeaways:

  • Integrating Nature and Literacy: Lynne emphasizes the importance of seamlessly blending nature and literacy. She shares about how to transform outdoor spaces into learning environments.
  • Alphabet Adventures: Lynne shares with Kristen her approach to teaching letters and words. This involves storytelling and hands-on activities.
  • Nature Books: Lynne and Kristen share their favorite nature books
    • “Life” by Cynthia Rylant
    • “The Blue Hour” by Isabelle Simler
    • “The Tallest Tree House” Elly MacKay
    • “Sam and David Dig a Hole” by Mac Barnett
    • “The Bog Baby” by Jeanne Willis
  • Backwards Planning: Lynne and Kristen share about how to ensure standards are being met by following children’s interests and aligning them with standards after.
  • Prioritize Outdoor Time: We all know outdoor time is diminishing for children, Lynne shares about how to promote a healthy connection with the environment.

If you've ever wanted to bring the wonders of nature into your preschool classroom, foster a love for literacy through creative outdoor activities, or explore the joy of child-led learning in various educational settings, this episode is packed with practical insights and inspiration to enhance your teaching journey.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Lynne here: @woodland_learning and explore her website

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Today, I'm chatting with Ade Hofmann, a dedicated early childhood educator passionate about outdoor play and founder of Nature Play All Day Early Childhood Program in Maine. On this episode, we discuss the significance of outdoor gear for children's play and share inclusive strategies and recommended brands. Ade also gives us an overview of her vision for a rental program that makes outdoor play accessible to all.

Some key takeaways:

  • The Importance of Outdoor Play and Clothing: Kristen and Ade discuss the famous saying, "There's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing," and the truth behind it. Ade emphasizes the importance of meeting children where they are in terms of outdoor gear. They acknowledge that the saying can be oversimplified and discuss the challenges of appropriate outdoor clothing for children.
  • Inclusive Strategies for Outdoor Gear: Ade shares her strategies for making outdoor clothing more inclusive for children regardless of their backgrounds. She emphasizes the significance of building gear lending libraries to reduce the financial burden on families. Kristen adds insights about creating partnerships with local consignment shops and thrift stores.
  • Favorite Brands for Outdoor Gear: Kristen and Ade recommend their favorite brands for outdoor clothing, including C'est la Vie, Didriksons, and Bogs boots. They discuss the importance of wool socks, mittens, and toe warmers in colder climates.
  • Implementing a Rental Program: Ade talks about her vision for a rental program in her new program, which aims to provide gear for the whole year at minimal cost. Kristen shares her experience with a similar program that includes mittens, rain suits, and boots for the whole year.
  • Living is Learning: Ade explains the concept of "living is learning" as a reminder that everything children do is a form of learning. Kristen and Ade emphasize that living and learning happen in every aspect of life, not just during play.

If you've ever wondered about how to get outside in all kinds of weather with young children, this episode is for you! Join Kristen and Ade as they swap stories, give practical tips, and share recommendations to properly dress for outdoor play.

Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.com

Find Ade here: @natureplayallday and grab her Free Gear Guide

  • Learn more about her program Nature Play All Day and donate items to their Amazon wishlist

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HelllllloooooOOOOooooo and welcome back as I revive my podcast with a host of new interviews! Today, I'm chatting with Mariah Burley, the founder and owner of a play based child care center. We discuss intentional teaching practices and creating a welcoming environment for children and families. Tune in to find out about the importance of building relationships, being flexible, and adapting to the needs and interests of the children. Some key takeaways1. Intentional Teaching: Mariah defines intentional teaching as teaching with a clear purpose and understanding of "why." It involves planning activities and interactions that are designed to help children grow and develop based on their needs and interests. 2. Setting Up Intentional Environments: Creating intentional learning environments involves using provocations and open-ended materials to spark children's curiosity and creativity. The goal is to let children explore and learn in a purposeful and child-driven way. 3. Relationship Building: Building strong relationships with children and families is essential. Mariah highlights the significance of forming bonds with children and ensuring that they feel valued and supported in the child care center. 4. Family Engagement: Involving families in the learning process is crucial. Mariah suggests incorporating family photos into the classroom and maintaining open communication with parents to build a sense of community and trust. 5. Clean-Up Time: Mariah and Kristen discuss strategies for clean-up time. They emphasize the importance of understanding the unique needs of each group of children. Giving children responsibilities during clean-up and making it a collaborative and positive experience can help ease the process.

If you've ever wondered about how to approach early childhood education with intention and the children at the forefront, this episode is a must listen. Join Kristen and Mariah as they swap stories and share tips to create welcoming and inviting environments. Find Kristen here: @kristen.rb.peterson or at KristenRBPeterson.comFind Mariah here: @mariahburnley_ECS and grab her Free Guide to Open Ended Play Explorations

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Kyla and Kristen compare and contrast hot and cold climate, outdoor play! We do some troubleshooting and Kyla offers lots of tips for playing in hot and cold climates!  

You can find more info on Kyla's website naturecreatedplay.com 

Or you can find her on IG at: @naturecreatedplay

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Kristen and Rae celebrate the release of her newest book,

"Spark a Revolution in Early Education: Speaking Up for Ourselves and the Children!"

In the play based, early childhood world, we can often feel like we are fighting an uphill battle. Rae's book and this podcast will help you gain confidence when it comes to advocating for play and childhood!

You can check out Rae's website here!

And you can buy Rae's book here!

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Author and blogger Linda McGurk joins Kristen to chat about her new book, The Open-Air Life: Discover the Nordic Art of Friluftsliv and Embrace Nature Every Day, nature play and her experience with early childhood education in the USA as compared to Sweden.

You can purchase her books here:

There's No Such Thing as Bad Weather

The Open-Air Life

Linda wanted to ensure listeners that when she is outdoors in extreme cold that she is indeed being safe about the temperatures... Here are some links worth checking out if this episode got you wanting to learn more!

Yes, kids can play outside when it’s cold!

https://rainorshinemamma.com/how-to-stay-warm-outside-in-winter/

How to dress for cold weather

https://rainorshinemamma.com/how-to-dress-for-cold-weather-video-gear-list/

What you need to know about outdoor play in the winter

https://rainorshinemamma.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-outdoor-play-in-the-winter/

Find Linda on Instagram and Facebook as Rain or Shine Mamma!

Check out Linda's website here: http://rainorshinemamma.com

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Kisa Marx from @kidcrewadventures (on Instagram) joins Kristen to talk about how early chilhdood educators put on a teacher disguise, why we need to remove that disguise and how she implemented play into her program slowly!  

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Mollie VonKampen joins Kristen to share five of her favorite read-a-louds in the early childhood classroom!  You can find more out about Mollie on her Instagram @read.by.the.window

And, you will get a few bonus read-a-loud ideas (we just couldn't stop at 5!)

Find more from Kristen here:

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristen.rb.peterson/

Website - kristenrbpeterson.com

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Join Kristen, Samuel Broaden and Willy Villalpando for part two!  We chat about how to be an ally to the LGBTQ+ community inside and outside of the classroom!

You can find more Samuel here:

https://www.honoringchildhood.org

Instagram

Venmo: @honoringchildhood

You can find more Willy Here:

https://mrwillyprek.com

Instagram

Venmo: @wvill002

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Join Kristen, Samuel Broaden and Willy Villalpando as we give a primer on terminology associated with gender and sexuality and the LGBTQ+ community.  

This is part one of two!

You can find more Samuel here:

https://www.honoringchildhood.org

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Venmo: @honoringchildhood

You can find more Willy Here:

https://mrwillyprek.com

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Venmo: @wvill002

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Kayla Souza, M.Ed. joins Kristen for a conversation about the benefits of play for all types of learners.  Noting that we are both still learning and not experts on the topics of play for nuerodivergent learners and children with learning disabilities, we talk candidly about Kayla's own experiences with play based learning and her daughter.  

You can find Kayla's website here: https://www.littlelilacpreschool.com and you can find her IG here: https://www.instagram.com/littlelilacpreschool/

Connect with Kristen here:

Website: https://www.kristenrbpeterson.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kristen.rb.peterson/

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Laura Shea from @little.stories.that.stick joins Kristen to talk about the power of storytelling and storyacting with young children in an early childhood environment.

You can find Laura on IG: https://www.instagram.com/little.stories.that.stick/

or on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/little.stories.that.stick

and you can grab some free story starter prompts from Laura HERE!

If you are looking for more about Kristen, you can find it all on her website!

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Samuel Broaden from honoringchildhood.org  and Kristen have a conversation about the events taking place in Ukraine after Kristen received a message via IG from a woman asking for resources to help children and families through war induced trauma.  

Kristen and Samuel also chat about how to have conversations about war and other big events in other parts of the world that are confusing for children.  

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What does success look like in terms of a play based program.  Success is a relative term and Kristen encourages you to really take some time to unpack what you think success is to better serve the children in your care!

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristen.rb.peterson/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Kristen happened upon a thought the other day and thought is was too important not to share.  In this episode she will talk about the last, greatest risk we allow children to take.  You will also learn 3 actionable ways to support risk taking in early childhood.

For some great, free, letters to adults of the children in your care, Kristen has created a series of 5 letters that explain some of the hot topics in play based learning - including one on RISK!  You can download them here!

Connect with Kristen on IG

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One of the most asked questions:  What does you daily schedule look like in a play based program?  Kristen answers that in this episode!  It is a lot more simplistic than you would imagine!

Check out Kristen's website learning-wild.com to find out how you can learn more!!  Or, find her on IG!  

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Children are often labeled as 'bad' for engaging in battle play or play fighting.  It is loud and big and makes adults uncomfortable.  Kristen explains why this type of play is normal and how to support it in your early childhood environments.

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kristen.rb.peterson/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

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Kristen chats about the characteristics of process based art, creative thinking in early childhood and it's importance, and a really cool study that proves that creativity is unlearned as we grow older.

Resources:

Tedx Tucson George Land YouTube video

Ted Talk by Sir Ken Robison

Loose Parts Books:

Loose Parts: Inspiring Play in Young Children by Lisa Daly and Miriam Beloglovsky

Loose Parts 2: Inspiring Play with Infants and Toddlers by Daly and Beloglovsky

Find Kristen here:

learning-wild.com

email her at learningwildbblog@gmail.com

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This is the first podcast in a two part release!  You can find the second part of this series (you will hear Kristen talk more in the 2nd part) over on the podcast called Embracing Childhood (apple podcast link)

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You can find more of Samuel Broaden on his website, Honoring Childhood.

And he loves to hang out on IG @honoringchildhood

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Kristen's fave podcasting buddy makes her debut on the podcast.  Tiffany Pearsall is the founding director of Play Frontier - a nature play school in Washington state!  

There is often a societal norm that is pushed down to early childhood environments that says children must be quiet to learn...  T and I chat about it!  After all, many of us are verbal processors and need to chat out loud to learn!

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About Sally: Sally Haughey hails from Guthrie, Oklahoma, a small town in the middle of the United States, and grew up traveling the country with her parents and siblings. She started her teaching journey in 1996 and that experience now expands over two decades. She cultivated her learning at Northeastern State University in Talequah, Oklahoma, where she earned a Bachelor of Science in Early Childhood Education. In 2010, Sally wanted to share her ideas on a larger platform so she created Fairy Dust Teaching, built on the passion for the wonder and magic of early childhood.

She believes young children have the right to play, to be collaborators in learning, and to dream. Since then, Fairy Dust Teaching has become a global platform for early childhood educators from all walks of life to learn more about Wonder Based Education. Sally’s teaching philosophy has let her travel the globe, sharing her knowledge and experience with teachers in Vietnam, Canada, Europe, the United States, and the Philippines. Her literary works include The Wonder Art Workshop (publ. 2019) and Through A Child’s Eyes, where she co-authored with Sandra Duncan and Jodie Martin. She and Sandra Duncan are working on another book together called The Honeycomb Series with a tentative release in 2021.

Website: FairyDustTeaching.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/FairyDustTeachingBlog Instagram: instagram.com/fairydustteaching Pinterest: pinterest.com/fairydustteach Twitter: twitter.com/sallyhaughey

Find Kristen Here:

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Rae Pica joins Kristen to chat advocacy / championing for children.  Learn some easy ways to stand up for what we know is right for the young children in our lives.

Rae's website:  raepica.com

use code:  WILD for 20% off Rae's course "Becoming a Champion for Play & Joyful Learning"

Find Kristen here:

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Kristen chats about what forest school looks like in her program!  

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Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

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Kristen had someone reach out to her via IG with some questions.  Instead of answering them over DM, Kristen invited her to be on the show to ask all her questions so you can learn from them too!  Nicky Peterson lives in South Africa and is dreaming about opening her own play based program someday!  

If you are interested in starting up your own program, check out my course:  

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

learning-wild.com/startinganearlychildhoodprogramblueprint

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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If a parent is ever wondering why their child comes home and says, "Nobody played with me."  Or if a parent ever asks why their child says they have no friends... this episode is for you!  And here is a handy letter you can hand to parents...

NEW! Play Based Learning Masterclass!

Head here to get a Stages of Play letter to give to grown ups!

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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We have to stop calling it behavior management and call it social and emotional development instead.  Kristen will walk you through the reasons why we need to change our thinking to provide a more child-centered atmosphere for the young children in our life!

Get on the list to be the first to know about Kristen's Play Based Learning Masterclass!  Head here!

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

https://www.learning-wild.com/startinganearlychildhoodprogramblueprint

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Kristen chats with children's book author, Allison Bakkum.  Her book, My Mud Kitchen is Rad, will be available for purchase soon!  You can find more about her book here: https://www.allisonbakkumauthor.com

In this episode you will find out her journey to writing a children's book and some easy start ideas for adding a mud kitchen to your play space!

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Kristen had the honor of recording an impromptu chat with Lisa Murphy on the topic of THEMES in a play-based, child-centered early childhood program.

Lisa is a thought leader in the play based learning world and is Kristen's Fareygawdmather (that story is in the podcast!)

Are themes bad?  NO.  Do we need to ask ourselves, whose idea was it?  YES.

Learn how to find a good balance between planning themes and listening to the children. 

Find Lisa here: https://www.ooeygooey.com

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Large body movement is not embraced as an important part of a developmentally appropriate classroom in many scenarios.  Here are 5 tips to go from "they are driving me crazy with all the movement" to "We gave them a developmentally appropriate experience today".

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

https://www.learning-wild.com/startinganearlychildhoodprogramblueprint

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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There are many rules that we have place on young children that are not developmentally appropriate in the least bit...  This is the start of a series of episodes that will break down the rules we place on children that we shouldn't.

The first is SITTING STILL.  Let's outlaw criss cross applesauce and free the movement!

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

https://www.learning-wild.com/startinganearlychildhoodprogramblueprint

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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This is a question I get all the time and one that I have spent years trying to dissect myself... Through trial and error - I have come to four great tips for helping to defend and explain parents (or maybe an administrator)!  

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

https://www.learning-wild.com/startinganearlychildhoodprogramblueprint

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Kristen started a child care program with zero dollars and no degree in business.  She did have three things that worked in her favor and she will tell you all about them in this episode.

NEW COURSE!  Starting An Early Childhood Program Blueprint!  

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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When did play become an unconventional way of learning?  What can we do to change this?  Kristen pondered this over coffee this morning and decided to brain dump it all into a podcast for you to sort through with her!  

As a reminder - you are OK just where you are in your play based journey.  You don't need to be where I am.  But, if you show up to learn, that is how you grow!

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Starting up a new outdoor program, classroom and need to know all things outdoor gear and outdoor winter play? Take a listen as Kristen walks you though the gear needed, how cold is too cold and some ideas for outdoor winter play!

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

Face covering:

https://www.amazon.com/HZTG-Childrens-Winter-Windproof-Adjustable/dp/B0152U4O2M/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=balaclava+kids&qid=1601745187&sr=8-8

Mittens: https://www.burton.com/us/en/p/kids-burton-mini-heater-mitten/W21-131741069602T.html?g_acctid=208-000-6041&g_campaign=US%20-%20Shopping%20-%20All%20Products%20%20-%20Branded&g_campaignid=746511269&g_adgroupid=41557843120&g_adid=175970744381&g_keyword=&g_keywordid=pla-906454404165&g_adtype=pla&g_merchantid=366744&g_productchannel=online&g_productid=W21-131741069602T&g_partition=906454404165&g_network=g&g_ifproduct=product&g_ifcreative=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwuD7BRDBARIsAK_5YhX4X97xZmPKtgcdIJIz5TerKXvuJDYAvxm7N4x5O94iiW2uakhWa0AaAtnpEALw_wcB

Weather Chart:

https://idph.iowa.gov/Portals/1/Files/HCCI/weatherwatch.pdf

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There are stages to teacher development and I also believe there are stages to a play based journey.  I wish I had known about these stages when I first drank the play based learning juice so that I could have settled in to my own journey instead of always wishing I was doing more or better.  Walk through the stages with me and try to figure out what stage you are!

Website - http://www.learning-wild.com

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/learningwildblog/

Free Resources (Documentation Guide Free Download) - https://www.learning-wild.com/opt-in-2ad54954-031a-408e-8993-faa989fa21da

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Does the thought of documentation overwhelm you?  Not sure where to start or what it even is?  Kristen breaks it down in this episode!  Learn what it is, why you should document learning and some simple ideas to get started.

Kristen has created a FREE 17 page guide to documentation in a play based classroom that you can download here. 

You can connect with Kristen on IG @learning.wild or Facebook (Learning Wild).  Her website is learning-wild.com

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Kristen is a preschool teacher who started out her teaching career in a teacher directed and dictated environment.  She had some revelations and decided to do better for the children in her community.

She created a nature based preschool.  Listen to this episode if you have an outdoor classroom, are just starting out in an outdoor classroom, or are hoping to provide an outdoor classroom someday!  I am sure you will find some inspo!

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Kristen chats about the 4 (ok 5) pieces to planning in a play based, child led program.  Then she fills you in on what planning looks like in her program!  

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Kristen received a question via IG about what the teacher's role in a play based program is...  She answers it with 4 characteristics of a teacher in a child led, play based program.  

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

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I needed help defining play when I thought play was the fun stuff after the learning happened.  I didn't understand what PLAY - true play - is and so I break it down for you in this episode.  

Learn the 4 characteristics of play and what they look like!  And hear of a few examples of what they don't look like!

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Kristen is a preschool teacher who started out her teaching career in a teacher directed and dictated environment.  She was inspired by Lisa Murphy and Jeff A. Johnson to learn all things play based learning and has not looked back.  Listen to what a day was like in a teacher directed environment and what a day looks like now at her nature playschool in Minnesota.  Also, she wants to root you on in your journey, so send her a message on IG or FB to let her know you are listening!

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/learning.wild/

Web:  learning-wild.com