Ellipses Thinking...: Recent Episodes
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Ellipsis Thinking lives at the heart of creative life. It invites us to park judgement and perfection, to drive curiosity towards possibility. The ellipsis, alone amongst punctuators holds space for the future…those three dots…build the perfect bridge from where you have been and are now, to where you are next meant to be...
Greg Dowler-Coltman, arts educator, theatre director and now executive coach, is fascinated by how creativity shows up in us all. Through conversations with people actively engaged in their own creative adventures, those who identify as artists and those who choose to experience life through an artistic lens, we shed light on relationships that shape and inspire us as we meet the challenges, discoveries, and learnings we make when we courageously invite our creative spirit forth.
Whether wearing the hat of scientist, educator, journalist, speaker ... or even entertainer, Dan Riskin has always been committed to bringing science and the natural world to life for others and doing so by bringing his wide-open curiosity to the game. Dan’s desire to help people tap into the fact that science is fun and surprising and hilarious and exciting, has helped him to build a multifaceted career whether as a leading expert on all things related to bats, a host of award-winning science-based television programs including the long running Daily Planet on Discovery and Monsters Inside Me on Animal Planet as well as being one of late-night talk show host Craig Fergusen’s favorite repeat guests.
And yet, when we were crossed paths recently, and discussed a possible conversation, it was Dan’s youth filled adventures in the creative and playful world of theatre that he hoped to revisit being curious about how they had contributed to his life in science.
While acknowledging that part of being in a stage of life where she is both conscious and intentional about sharing her wisdom, Canadian film icon, Anne Wheeler, joyfully continues to learn every day and in every way; the belief that we keep going when we keep growing. Anne’s storytelling palette rich in historical narratives has always been inspired by the lives of everyday people finding their way in life. Reflecting on a career that now reaches back 5 decades, Anne takes well-earned pride in having created strong films, with strong messages and strong points of view. In her early career, as a part of the Edmonton based film collective, FilmWest, she directed documentaries tackling issues of the environment, indigenous rights, women’s rights and Western politics. Later on with the more expansive frame a feature provided, she courageously brought the pain and intimacy of the trauma experienced through the horrors of war, sexual abuse or racism to light in her award-winning and deeply empathetic features, Loyalties and POW. Her reputation as a powerhouse Canadian film artist was further cemented with the release of Bye, Bye Blues, an appealing musical drama inspired by her mother’s experience as a musician in a small dance band during WWII. She has continued to write and direct both film and TV and in 2020 published Taken By The Muse, a delightful collection of stories of her path to becoming a filmmaker.
Along with the Order of Canada, Anne is the recipient of 7 honorary doctorates and every time she steps up to address a group of young students she does so in the hope that they will allow themselves to, in her words, “go out and get lost” in the next chapter of their learning and growing.
In her daily life and professional path, Hannah Beach has always been drawn towards the bubble of play. She is deeply committed to the idea that “play is where we discover ourselves”.
Travelling the country, as educator, author, emotional health consultant or keynote speaker, Hannah channels her heart’s wisdom to share the power of relationship and play in children of all ages. Her best-selling book Reclaiming Our Students: Why Children Are More Anxious, Aggressive, and Shut-Down than Ever—and What We Can Do About It, co-authored with Tamara Neufeld Strijack, has been adopted by school boards across Canada.
Hannah was recognized by the Canadian Human Rights Commission in 2017 as one of five featured changemakers in Canada. Her bestselling I Can Dance book series, supporting the emotional health of children through movement, play, and expression, won a 2017 Gold International Moonbeam Children’s Book Award.
Whether from the podium surrounded by the swell of musical notes brought to life by an ensemble of artists in front of her or in the rehearsal hall exploring and honing possibilities fully alongside an ensemble of musicians or kneeling in conversation with a young audience member who sees in her, the possibility of a future as a musician, even a conductor, Cosette Justo-Valdéz inspires. My recent conversation with her was nothing short of joy, because joy is the language Cosette speaks; and perhaps it is through joy that she inspires most powerfully.
Born and raised in Cuba, the daughter of amateur musicians, Maestra Valdéz has been surrounded by music all her life. After witnessing a symphony orchestra for the first time at the age of 18, she knew immediately that she was born to conduct. She picked up the baton as a student in 2003 and her journey began, eventually leading her away from her homeland to pursue a Master’s degree in Mannheim, Germany. From there, a career has opened doors for her to lead and inspire orchestras across the globe. She currently serves as the Resident Conductor of the Edmonton Symphony Orchestra and the Artistic Director of the Vancouver Island Symphony in Nanaimo, where I was fortunate to have her join me in conversation.
Joyful, curious and optimistic by nature? Absolutely! New York based artist Rachelle Krieger firmly believes that there is something to learn in all situations and through her bold and vibrant, colour-filled and playful visual art she expresses her ever present wonder with the world unfurling all around us.
Her work recently exhibited in a collection described by curator Charles A. Ridley II as “devoted to the theme of making the invisible energy of nature visible”, was in Krieger’s words, a “form of meditation”. Whether capturing singular moments of life in her plein art studies, inviting her wildly imaginative night dreams to splash magically across a canvas, or reflecting biodiversity and vitality through capturing natural elements in various stages of life in her newest medium of ceramics, one thing is undeniable. Rachelle Krieger’s art is boundless!
Please visit rachellekrieger.com
Joyful, curious and optimistic by nature? Absolutely! New York based artist Rachelle Krieger firmly believes that there is something to learn in all situations and through her bold and vibrant, colour-filled and playful visual art she expresses her ever present wonder with the world unfurling all around us.
Her work recently exhibited in a collection described by curator Charles A. Ridley II as “devoted to the theme of making the invisible energy of nature visible”, was in Krieger’s words, a “form of meditation”. Whether capturing singular moments of life in her plein art studies, inviting her wildly imaginative night dreams to splash magically across a canvas, or reflecting biodiversity and vitality through capturing natural elements in various stages of life in her newest medium of ceramics, one thing is undeniable. Rachelle Krieger’s art is boundless!
Please visit rachellekrieger.com
Inspiration has a way of coming swiftly and if fortunate to be in the right place and time it may be received by an open and available imagination. Such is the experience of Anne Lindsay, who clearly relishes these moments when the voice that arrives invites her to lift up her violin and translate the language of the muse to the musical voice of her life. For Anne, the violin has found many voices over her musical career, rooted in her ongoing fascination with the many ways the strings can speak. While originally trained in the classical manner, she has always been intrigued by artists who have pushed against the formal traditions to discover and welcome new possibilities. In doing, she has succeeded as a solo artist, with 5 CDs featuring many of her own compositions, as well as performing alongside artists such as Roger Daltrey, Blue Rodeo, members of Led Zeppelin and the Chieftains. Her latest recording, Soloworks 2 was released last month, during a hiatus from touring across Canada with the Jim Cuddy Band.
Visit her website at anne-lindsay.com for more information on upcoming performances or how you might be able to order physical CD’s to enjoy.
In the summer of 1968, when Tamar Griggs was studying art and dance in New York City, she accepted an invitation for a short sailing holiday in the Mediterranean. Much to her surprise, that brief respite would lead to a year at sea, complete with a shipwreck on the coast of Spain before hitchhiking across the Atlantic Ocean.
Carried by three different boats across thousands of nautical miles, she found herself hurled into trouble, doubt, beauty, laughter and conversations with the dead. As she sailed along, Tamar simultaneously made her way through a parallel inner journey, confronting darkness and secrets that had haunted her life, and challenged her relationships for years, keeping joy at bay.
In her 80’s Tamar sat down to write the stories of her life as a gift to her daughter Maya and her family and it was this particular chapter of her navigation across the Atlantic and her own uncharted waters that rose powerfully to the surface, even against her emotional protests.
I had the pleasure of meeting Tamar, an accomplished nature photographer through the kind introduction of a previous guest on this podcast, her friend and fellow resident on Salt Spring Island, Lolla Devindish. We first met at her artist’s booth at the Saturday market, just before her memoir, Tamar at Sea, was published and then for the conversation you are about to hear, which we recorded a few months ago. Her book with the subtitle, Navigating Love, Loss, Secrets and Self Across the Open Sea, became the metaphoric anchor and sails for our conversation. At the time, Tamar told me that she imagined with all the energy leading up to the holidays that it might be best to share the episode in the new year and so we programmed for a January slot.
I received the sad and shocking news less than a week ago, that Tamar has passed away peacefully in her home on the island. After a conversation with her beloved daughter Maya, who was certain that her Mama would have loved it to be released as planned, I have chosen to do so. It is my hope that in doing so, her voice, stories and beautiful spirit as captured here may provide some light and comfort to those grieving and celebrating her life.
In the past month alone, and in multiple ways, I have been reminded of the fragility of life and how life as we know it can change in an instance. Tamar reminds us of the importance of allowing life to steep like a great cup of tea and then to share that tea party through story, image and laughter, for those who come next to better understand the path laid before them.
In Memory of Tamar Griggs (1941-2024)
Putting one foot in front of another is what Marty Chan learned many years ago, when as a child of hard working immigrant parents, who prioritized chores and help at the store over homework, became anxious that he wasn’t at the same reading level as his peers, leading him to develop imaginative strategies that have come to serve him throughout his successful writing career. His books, stage plays, radio dramas, television scripts and humour articles have taken him around the world from New York to Los Angeles to Galway to Beijing and have received many awards and accolades. In 2016, the Alberta Foundation for the Arts named Marty one of the 25 most influential artists in Alberta and last year he was the recipient of the Writers’ Guild of Alberta Golden Pen Award, presented to acknowledge the lifetime achievements of outstanding Alberta writers, placing him in the illustrious company of past recipients including W.O. Mitchell, Grant MacEwan, Rudy Wiebe, Robert Kroetsch, and Alice Major.
Prior to 2020, Marty travelled extensively to deliver captivating creative writing residencies for students of all ages. During the pandemic, he put his creative resources to work making it possible to shift to virtual workshops, and in the process ended up turning his basement into a full-on production studio as he devised innovative ways to continue to engage and inspire students of writing across the world through the computer screen.
While most of my podcast guests share their identification as artists and creators, I remain committed to including within that ensemble, conversations with people who feel the fire of creativity within themselves and encourage it’s light and warmth to be expressed on a daily basis, personally and professionally. In curating these recorded gatherings, I hope these conversations might resonate just as powerfully for all listeners.
Dr. Sian Williams began her professional career in the arts and somewhere along the way, made a choice to set that work down; work that had defined and fueled her, to step towards another love, of science and specifically chiropractic medicine. In 2019, Sian fulfilled a career-long dream and opened Alinio Chiropractic & Massage in the heart of Edmonton’s Ice District. The Welsh word ‘alinio’ meaning alignment, is inspired by Sian’s South Wales roots as well as her belief in the importance of bringing all facets of a life into – ‘alinio’.
For as long as I have known Sian, I have been inspired by her way of being in the world and when I finally found the courage to trust anyone with cracking open some space in my own bone structure, I couldn’t imagine trusting anyone else.
In the case of his first formal play, Rocko and Nakota: Tales From the Land, theatre artist Josh Languedoc has come to realize that while the play was first produced in 2018 professionally, he had been carrying in pieces for many years, being unpacked and revealed gradually along the way. Josh, a proud member of the Saugeen First Nation, now lives as a guest in Treaty 6 Territory as an Anishinaabe playwright, producer, storyteller, and teacher. His most recent production, Civil Blood: A Treaty Story, an immersive contemporary tale inspired by the signing of Treaty 6, the love story of Romeo and Juliet, and the lessons learned about what it means to be treaty people. This intriguing production, co-written by Josh and Neil Kuefler and produced by Thou Art Here and Common Ground Arts onsite at Fort Edmonton this past summer, invited audiences to consider present truth by meditating on our collective past. At the time of our conversation, Josh had also just begun work as an Associate Producer at the National Arts Centre of a project titled #ReconcileThis, one of many topics we had a chance to dive into.
The role of mentor suits Jenna Rodgers’ love of partnership whether she’s sitting alongside a playwright in the supportive role of dramaturg, as the leader of an artistic ensemble somewhere in the midst of bringing a story to the stage or in the past few years as a mother of two, learning how to best respond to the wild wonder of early childhood; an improvisation unto itself. While her professional path following her double Science and Arts major led her to a life in the theatre, Jenna remains committed to a practice that embodies the inquisitive curiosity of a creative laboratory.
A graduate of the National Theatre School’s Artistic Leadership Residency, the Banff Centre’s Cultural Leadership Program and a member of the artEquity National Facilitator Training cohort, Jenna also holds an MA in International Performance Research from the universities of Amsterdam and Tampere. Highly committed to shifting the landscape of opportunities in the theatre, Jenna remains an active and passionate advocate for equity in the arts. Most recently Jenna was appointed the Artistic Director of Edmonton’s Concrete Theatre and as she enters into the next scene of her creative narrative, she finds herself in the familiar space of preparation.
For the past decade, Toronto-based singer songwriter, Jordan Hart has been engaged in an adventure in letting go; no small task for someone who admittedly holds tightly to the controls every time he enters the studio. His tendency to lean towards the idea of perfection, has been anchored in a desire to connect deeply with his listeners. Lately, Jordan has begun to dance more freely with the idea that in letting go, he is able to experience a kind of freedom to be even more fully connected, trusting that every listener, of recordings and performances, is going to define perfect by their own standards and that the music will resonate as it is able given each new moment.
The transformative work of the Writer’s Collective of Canada is anchored in the core belief in the power of seeing, hearing and inviting ourselves to know one another better. Shelley Lepp joined the WCC as a volunteer facilitator in 2018, then Co-Executive Director in 2019, and early in 2024 stepped into the role of Chief Executive Officer.
Shelley holds a Master’s Degree in Adult Education and Community Development from OISE, University of Toronto. Her academic research has focused on the practice and pedagogy of expressive writing as a non-clinical mental health intervention. She is a passionate writer, mental-health advocate, and community builder.
Shelley and the work of WCC, through free writing workshops, accessible to all is deeply rooted in the belief that ‘creative expression nourishes the physical and mental health of individuals and creates more resilient communities. It sparks activism and action, bridges and builds connection, fosters dialogue, helps us make sense of the world and fulfils our innate need to feel seen and heard.” She remains endlessly curious about the power of story to build connection with self and others.
Shannon Litzenberger is keenly committed to the exploration and rehearsal of new ways in doing and being in the practice of art and living. As a dancer and performance maker, her work explores our relationship to land, the politics of belonging, and the forgotten wisdom of the body. She collaborates frequently with the wind in the leaves collective and has been an invited resident artist with major arts organizations nationwide. As a skilled freelance strategist, leadership developer, and embodiment facilitator, she works with organizations in the arts, academia, and the corporate sector.
Sparked by her own experiences and observations of Canada’s cultural reality during and emerging out of the pandemic, Shannon wrote a powerful essay titled, State of Emergence: Why we need artists right now. Anchored in systems and policies shaping society, she asks the question: What would it mean to ambitiously mobilize artists to do their most essential work well and fully, with the aim of catalyzing transformative change? She goes on to ask, Could the chaotic domain of the artist’s creative process be the fertile ground from which a healthier and more sustainable, just, and caring society emerges?
Stephen Nachmanovitch, an accomplished and classically trained violinist, has for years been espousing the life affirming power of stepping away from the notes on the sheet to explore the freedom of playing between, within and around the notes, of music, art and life as one beautiful composition. He performs and teaches internationally at the intersections of multimedia, performing arts, ecology and philosophy. He is the author of Free Play: Improvisation in Life and Art (1990) and The Art of Is: Improvising as a Way of Life (2019); both of which make the compelling argument “that artistic power is available to anyone at any moment. It is not a psychological tool or an artistic one...it is a way of being.”
For more information on Stephen and his work, visit www.freeplay.com
Brent Allan has always led with heart, art and a deep passion to make positive impact on the world he encounters. Drawing strength from his early personal experiences during the dark days of the HIV crisis in Edmonton, Toronto and Vancouver, Brent has come to be recognized globally as a highly respected and sought after advocate and crusader for people living with HIV, through education, the arts, health policy and practice and industry. The way they have defined and designed life, community and family speaks to a true embodiment of the creative spirit. In fact, Brent often finds themself being sought after by peers and professional colleagues when they are in search of unconventional wisdom and fresh perspective. I caught up to Brent at their home, bearing the wildly saucy name, Buggery Acres on the Da Da Wjurng lands of the Kulin Nation just north of Melbourne, Australia.
You can find a documentary on the HIV Science as Art project that Brent curated for the 2023 International HIV Conference in Brisbane by visiting ordinarypodcasts.com and clicking on the Ellipses Thinking page which will take you to this specific episode.
Vern Thiessen’s curiosity is forever leading him to the untold story, inspiring plays that have embraced theatres around the world. Thiessen, one of Canada’s most produced playwrights, a recipient of numerous awards and honours, including Canada’s Governor General’s Literary Award, for Einstein’s Gift in 2003, continues to seek out those places where a drama might find breath and lead to a life on stage.
Beyond his formal writing career, Vern has always supported other writers, formally in classrooms teaching playwrights of all ages and experience and informally, he has brought his mentorship to inspire a new generation of theatre artists in rehearsal halls, workshop readings and mainstages.
Our conversation ranged from the importance of authenticity as a writer to some lessons learned from failure to the vitally important reorientation in place and space of an artist with privilege.
Throughout these conversations on the creative process, the idea of play features heavily. There’s an incredible joy in the experience of inviting our imagination to a party of our own making and then hosting it as the guest of honor. If we believe that the innocent creative child we were when we were small, remains alive within us, then play at any age opens the door to our freedom to express ourselves and be fully alive. For Gianna Vacirca, her playful self seems never hidden within, and in her words and in her life, PLAY shows up as a language.
And so, a few years ago the much sought-after actor, dancer and choreographer turned inwards not to invite PLAY which was already present, but rather she turned to play to invite new connections to her community, to her family story and to her own creativity...and the playground ... was her kitchen and her pasta.
Fred Keating has a long and multi-faceted career in theatre, radio, TV and film in character roles and as a host, motivational speaker and podcast producer/host. I consider Fred to be a dear friend and celebrate him as one of my personal mentors and as someone who left an indelible imprint on me as a young artist and educator. He has always led with generosity, and this was certainly the case in our conversation in which we double-clicked on some of the many learnings that Fred has experienced and continues to gather over a lifetime of living through a creative lens.
Throughout her career as an educator in Toronto and then Victoria, Karen Close aimed to inspire her students through literature and visual arts; she loved to witness young people become better able to articulate themselves and to share their understanding with others through their writing and art making. Karen passionately believes in the importance of storytelling to give us a way to know ourselves more deeply and share our wisdom. So when she stepped away from the formal classroom, it was no real surprise that she brought this same desire to engage imaginations to her new community of Kelowna. In fact, in an interview with a local newspaper several years ago, she acknowledged her dream of helping to build the city into a centre for creative ageing and has fostered numerous local initiatives with that aim. Her passionate belief in the healing power of the arts and the importance of creativity on individual and community wellness is as strong as ever and her definition of community has widened its reach as the online Journal for Creative Ageing, she created in 2011, aptly named Sage-ing: With Creative Spirit, Grace and Gratitude, now boasts readers and contributors spanning the globe.
When a previous guest recently reached out to say that I simply had to speak with Jan Alexandra Smith, who in his words “is one of Canada’s finest actors and directors”, I thought, “what wonderful idea.”
For nearly 35 years, Jan has been stepping onto stages in roles that have entertained, challenged, surprised and thrilled audiences across this country. The work itself has fueled her passion for sharing stories and her love of creative expression. And yet leading up to 2020 and then throughout the pandemic quiet that performing artists were cast in, Jan was becoming aware of what she describes as a dwindling pilot light in her sense of what theatre seemed to be offering to her lifelong passion for it. She began to wonder if the party was over for her and theatre. And then a conversation with a friend and colleague led to her discovery of a highly inventive company whose work felt both exciting and inviting to her imagination, sparking not just a reignition but a bright burst of new flame for her love of movement-based theatre.
From early childhood as a member of the Whitefish Lake Atikameg First Nation in Treaty 8 territory, Roseanne Supernault has held the medicinal impact of story as a deep, core belief; one that guides and strengthens her in both life and art. In honoring her own storytellers, wisdom keepers, mentors and teachers she gratefully acknowledges the shoulders she stands upon and is coming to understand her role in providing the same for those who are following her lead. On the heels of starring in a terrifying new thriller, Cold Road, and beginning the post production process on her first feature film, Dusk & Dawn.as writer, director and producer, Rose continues to navigate her creative adventure with courage and compassion.
Roseanne has been acting since childhood and has appeared in numerous Film and TV productions, including Blackstone, Maina, Rhymes for Young Ghouls and most recently on the CTV comedy series, Acting Good and in the feature Cold Road, directed by Kelvin Redvers, slated for streaming on CRAVE later this year.
Since 2005, Christy Morin has been the heart of Arts on the Ave in Edmonton, Alberta. Arts on the Ave actively celebrates its unique neighbourhood community north of the downtown core as “a place whose “personality” is vividly expressed through the arts; possessing a dynamic momentum, “an arts pulse” where the artist and community continually engage.” At the core of the organization, or more accurately, the movement, lives a deep commitment “to the community through the cultivation of positive urban renewal. It is through culture-led urban regeneration initiatives, a vision of creative spaces and place-making that these art-infused communities have begun to flourish and provide a safe, nurturing environment for artists to thrive.”
From the earliest days of its dreaming and the establishment of a dedicated creator-centric community coffee house, The Carrot, to expanding to its current scale, hosting two much loved festivals, Kaleido, a fall festival of the arts and its winter companion, Deep Freeze: A Byzantine Winter Festival about to take to the streets later this month, Christy and her team have embraced the Arts as the alchemical element spinning gold through community development and acting as a transformative agent in advocating for the healthy lifestyle of the whole neighbourhood and beyond.
For the past decade theatre artist, Cynthia Jimenez-Hicks has been surfing some incredibly wild waves, fuelling her love of what she refers to as creative chaos. Since graduating from the National Theatre School of Canada in 2015, she has appeared across North America on stages of all sizes, hopping confidently from comedy to drama. From the soul building and edifying work of bringing the seed of an idea to life on the smallest of stages to the high-flying adventure of hitching on to an internationally recognized sensation as a member of the San Francisco company of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, Cynthia’s understanding of what it means to stay present to self, art and life has continued to expand. We sat down together days after it was announced that she would be heading to the Stratford Festival this season in the role of Wendy in the premiere production of Ella Hickson’s, Wendy and Peter, the latest iteration of the J.M Barrie classic.
For as long as she can remember, Cassandra Lemoine had been surrounded by pop music and show tunes. Inspired by the acclaimed Canadian tenor, Benjamin Butterfield during a master class he delivered at her high school, she soon found herself in a classical music program at the University of Victoria, where much to her delight everything was new! She delighted in the adventure of living in a kind of translation, not simply of language, as much as the classical opera repertoire demands but of a complete newness of her experience of learning and of music. Sitting in a lecture hall or concert venue with classmates that appeared to her to have been immersed in classical music from infancy, cast her in this intriguing and welcomed space of curiosity.
Over the past decade, Cassandra, has established herself as a highly sought after soprano living in Copenhagen, loving living in a constant state of translation, performing roles ranging from Mozart to Puccini and Sondheim to Lloyd Webber.
Max Wyman’s most recent book, “The Compassionate Imagination: How the Arts are Central to a Functioning Democracy” serves as an invitation to consider what might be possible, not if, but when we embrace culture, and creative imagination at the core of what it means to be a member of a thriving, growing, curious, healthy and functioning society. Wyman who worked as an arts critic and columnist for The Vancouver Sun and CBC Radio for over 30 years is the author of 7 books on the arts in Canada. He has served on the board of the Canada Council for the Arts and as President of the Canadian Commission for UNESCO, is an officer of the Order of Canada and holds the Queen’s 25th, 50th and 60th Jubilee Medals.
Considered “a timely book that expertly shows how the arts contribute to human flourishing in all its manifestations” by Anne Bamford the Strategic Director of Education, Culture and Skills for the City of London. From its announcement at being named a finalist for the 2023 Basillie Prize in Public Policy, the jury called the book “a profound and beautifully written examination” in which “Wyman offers deep insights into how and why arts and cultural funding is vital to safeguarding Canada’s present and future.” And finally, from Angela Elster, President and CEO of Vancouver Symphony Orchestra, “At a time when our world is in crisis, this stellar book brings clear vision and strategy. The Compassionate Imagination presents a beacon of hope.” Hope: An image that matched perfectly how I felt upon finishing the book myself.
“Innovation = Transforming Ideas into Value”
Leo Chan firmly believes that everyone is an innovator and his mission is to create space, opportunity and practice so that everyone might believe it to be true as well and then to make it so in their lives. Leo is a people and heart-first entrepreneur and the founder of Abound Innovation Inc. An innovator himself, Leo holds 55 US patents and over 20 years of experience supporting organizations looking to unleash the innovative potential of their employees by transforming them into confident innovators. A glance at Leo’s schedule of appearances speaking at conferences and delivering hands-on workshops is evidence of the value placed upon innovation and creativity in the world today.
For more information on Leo and his work, visit: https://aboundinnovation.ca/
Poet Diana Hayes has walked with grief for over 20 years since the death of her mother. The fact that both she and her mother, whom she remembers as her confidant, muse and dearest friend, were both facing a breast cancer diagnosis at the same time, added even greater complexity to her grieving process. Diana’s collection of poetry, The Language of Light serves as her tribute to her mother and has been alongside and within Diana as a central part of her creative and grieving process.
Since 1981, she has made her home on Salt Spring Island where she divides her time between writing, photography, producing literary events and festivals, and when possible, travel. In 2002, she founded the Salt Spring Seals, an open-water swim team that swims year-round in the bays around Salt Spring and the Gulf Islands.
Jeremy Schonfeld’s powerful storytelling voice, reveals the heart of a man on a journey, vulnerably seeking to understand himself, his family and friends and his community. Weaving across the story-threads of Jeremy’s musical tome, is his own deeply genuine exploration of fatherhood. Having been moved by his music since it first landed in my ears over a decade ago, I continue to be drawn to this recurring theme of what it means to have a father and be a father; reflective of the joys and sorrows, dreams and regrets, times of absence and presence and above all, the wisdom gathered from both sides of the role.
An award-winning Billboard-charting singer/songwriter, composer/lyricist, producer and performer, Jeremy is also co-founder of the Beacon Bonfire Music and Art Festival, held annually in Beacon, New York.
As a bonus to end Season 2, on Father’s Day, Jeremy joined me in conversation about his creative process, his life as a storyteller and fatherhood.
As a musician and producer of musical performances, Zohreh Gervais is fascinated by those all too rare moments within a musical performance, when an undeniably powerful, even transcendent experience occurred within audience members as they received the power of the art. It is her pursuit of these moments of awe that get her up and out of bed every day.
Having spent most of her life on stage connecting with audiences, Zohreh is convinced that the universal human language is not math or music alone, but the emotional resonance that they can inspire. She loves exploring the intersections and overlaps between different fields and cultures. Regardless of the medium or discipline, Zohreh is on the hunt for the common threads that connect us all and allow her to build community and beauty in every project.
She and her team of innovators across multiple disciplines have recently launched the Winnipeg based company Neon Venus Productions, with the goal of creating the opportunity for audiences to experience the Magic of Awe.
When Bob Bonniol’s mother took him to the opening weekend of the very first Stars Wars movie (and then every Saturday for the next 20 weeks), something stuck. While he laughs at the memory, his obsession for all things Star Wars was hardwired as a child and this core memory, well seeded would remain dormant for many years he discovered his own pathway to what has become a thrilling professional journey, working with major entertainment giants, including LucasFilm.
An Emmy Award winning Director, Production Designer, and Producer, Bob has built a reputation for his implementation of extensive media and interactive features in his productions and installations. His inter-disciplinary practice draws inspiration from traditional and groundbreaking storytelling conventions of theater, broadcast media, opera, visual art installation, and architecture. Most recently, Bob has been deploying and integrating new interactive technology and AI to elevate live concert production, with tour designs for Billy Joel, Blake Shelton, Megan Thee Stallion, and the One Night Houston Festival.
It seems that Bob finds joy in every stage of the creative process, and has, since realizing early in his professional theatre career, that with or without the actual building, the experience of theatre exists everywhere and in all our storytelling. Just as Bob imagined himself to be George Lucas, a genius at creating a whole world picture through storytelling, he has himself come to set and expect Lucas-level standards in his own commitment to creating richly layered, and fully realized experiences that invite audiences to enter a creative space with their own imaginations firing on all cylinders.
Christina Dempsey studied in the professional division of the Royal Winnipeg Ballet School while still in high school, after which she went on to graduate from the Juilliard School in New York City in 2005 with a Bachelor of Fine Arts. Christina’s professional career included performing with Koresh Dance Company in Philadelphia for two seasons before returning home to Canada in 2007, to join Les Ballets Jazz de Montréal, with whom she toured the world for eight seasons. In 2015, Christina relocated to Los Angeles to join BODYTRAFFIC, dancing until she stepped away from the floor two just years later.
To a dancer, like an elite athlete, the realization that the end of the lane that you chose to commit your life’s passion and pursuit to from a very young age is coming to an end and that the choice to merge, while inevitable, can appear as wildly unfamiliar territory.
In our conversation, Christina shares the moments of clarity as she came to realize that her professional life of a contemporary dancer, the role she had always identified with was soon to be eclipsed by her next; and how her challenge lay in defining the ‘next’ when she had always lived in the ‘now’. Her willingness to step in and stay in the discomfort long enough to remain open to possibility, led her to discover her passion for new roles including teacher, yoga instructor and Mom.
An in your bones belief that each of us can live, lead, learn and be our best version of All Of Me, is the powerful frame that anchors Lisa Strogal firmly through her unique frame of Whole Person Intelligence™. While we might think of harnessing the energies of which we as humans are a part of, it seems for Lisa more important to listen deeply to the energies and focus on harnessing the wisdom to be gleaned from them.
As CEO and Founder of ShadowLight Consulting, Lisa Strogal brings over 20 years of leadership and consulting experience at a variety of Fortune 100 companies. She blends her diverse background and knowledge for leaders, teams, and individuals to support Whole Person Intelligence™ for those who are willing to explore and challenge outdated paradigms, belief structures, and assumptions. Doing the work at the subconscious level, her clients quickly build the competence and necessary awareness required to support goal achievement while integrating change at the conscious level. Lisa’s approach to life resonates through her calm, witty, and meaningful interactions.
For more information on Lisa and her work with Whole Person Intelligence™ check out her website: https://www.shadowlightconsulting.ca/
See Lisa set up and demonstrate the Sound Bowl experience: https://youtu.be/eq2RyWjequg
Lolla Devindisch’s life has been a creative quest to “live fully and authentically” and through it all, she has held a channel open, at first intuitive and then intentional; a space to more fully be at peace with the little girl who left her home at 7, left a life she loved and a father she adored. In her self-published memoir, A Dancer’s Pilgrimage, she acknowledges the journey has been one of seeking understanding redemption and finally serenity. Always a performer, Lolla has now found a new stage on which to express her heart’s voice on the page as writer of poetry, fiction and non-fiction.
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On stages across Canada for over 30 years, John Ullyatt has been fortunate to build a career as actor, worthy of being considered by any measure, successful. He has played leading roles in multiple genres, singing, dancing and entertaining audiences while earning high praise and respect from his fellow artists. The joy he brings into a collaborative community is as infectious as his laughter. And yet, the title of ‘artist’ is one that he has grappled with assuming throughout his career. This theme wove itself throughout our conversation, which began however, not focused on theatre, but rather the art of making spirits, a role he was cast in during the pandemic shut down.
For Krista Monson, a shift from mastery to mystery feels almost seismic as she has been committed to creating breathtaking, masterful performances of virtuosity on stages around the globe. For many artists, the work of creativity can often feel both precarious and dangerously precipitous...It’s not uncommon to feel caught in the pendulum swinging between pure artistic, passionate joy and the pressure or expectation to meet conventional, external definitions of success. And while you might imagine that to be the perspective of the artist who is striving to keep the work going steadily and build their practice, who might be heard saying they feel caught in the grind, the wheel or the hustle, it may be a surprise to discover this is often felt just as powerfully by someone at the top of their game and with a very full resume of successes and an equally full docket of opportunities on the horizon.
For the past 13 years (and counting) with Cirque du Soleil, Krista has served as Artistic Director of the renowned production “O” at the Bellagio in Las Vegas, as Casting Director for Cirque du Soleil’s resident shows worldwide and most currently, as a writer, stage and creative director with the company. Her resume of outstanding productions and unique one-off creative adventures with and beyond Cirque, reads like a storybook and yet in this moment in her path, she looks to fully invest in meaningful relationships and projects that “make (her) heart fly!” and the mystery that lives in that promise.
If you live in Edmonton, Alberta, have been in any number of schools, community centres and places where people meet, you have likely passed by, hopefully admired some of Theo Harasymiw’s visual art. She is best known for her large colourful, graphic, and often whimsical murals found all over the city. Her visual palette includes equally vivid collections of acrylic paint and assembled bits and pieces of porcelain, bone china, artifacts and the miscellany that will find new meaning and pattern in the creation of one of her mosaics. She draws much inspiration from her travels to Europe, the Middle East and Latin America, but is perhaps most influenced by her strong Ukrainian heritage and the various forms of traditional craft. Theo describes herself as seeker of all things creative, nurturer of Art in others, mother, and life enthusiast; all of which our conversation touched upon and more.
At the heart of Miranda Lucas’ PhD in human behaviour and evolution lies her curiosity in understanding how people engage with visual art, and what physical and social affordances public art galleries use (or lack) to encourage a deeper human experience, one that can lead to curiosity and meaningful encounters with art, rather than feeling alienated or that these public spaces are a place reserved for someone else.
While admittedly spending a lot of time focusing on her academic studies on art as research, Miranda embraces a similar commitment to inquiry, in all aspects of life, allowing for her curiosity to lead her from one path to the next and the next and the next. Our conversation was rooted in how her approach to learning and living fuse her passions as artist and scientist.
At the outset of the pandemic, writer and theatre director, Dennis Garnhum found himself facing a crisis of confidence and the despair that so many artists around the world were experiencing when their primary venues for creative expression went dark. Garnhum, who has directed theatre and opera productions across North America, has written and co-written several award-winning plays and adaptations and is generally acknowledged to be one of the country’s most admired and highly respected Artistic Directors, felt completely lost. Surrounded by a loving community, he agreed to withdraw his letter of resignation as Artistic Director of the Grand Theatre in London, and instead pick up a backpack, buy a plane ticket and head to Spain to tackle a grueling 830 km Camino walk. A choice that would prove to be a kind of personal rehearsal hall allowing him to commit fully to the work of reigniting his creative spirit.
As he walked, he captured moments in writing and upon returning published Toward Beauty, in which he poignantly shares his discoveries through the relationships with fellow pilgrims and most essentially, through the deepening of his relationship with himself. Throughout the book, Garnhum’s story shines a light on the power of the human spirit to overcome heartbreak and fear and move toward beauty on soft step at a time.
Award winning actor and playwright, Beth Graham, has come to know the voices of her inner critic(s) well, having adopted the term Weasels to capture the sometimes playful, more often threatening nature of such characters to the creative temperament. She was so familiar with the nature of her own Weasels, that she chose to give them the title role in one of her latest plays, examining the turmoil we can experience when our voices turn from curiosity to doubt, to fear and to the abandonment of courage and confidence.
As an actor, Beth Graham, has worked professionally at theatres across the country and toured internationally. As a playwright, she has received the Gwen Pharis Ringwood Literary Award twice and has been a finalist for the Governor Generals Award for Drama. Currently, Beth is the Lee Playwright in Residence at the University of Alberta. At the time of our conversation, her play Weasel had just opened in Edmonton, Dora Maar: The Wicked One, which she cowrote with longtime collaborate Daniela Vlaskalic was back in rehearsals for its Edmonton production at Workshop West Playwrights’ Theatre and I caught up with her in St. John’s, Newfoundland where she was working as dramaturge on a dance show based on a collection of poetry.
As someone who loves to walk, wander and wonder, Katharine Weinmann travelled to Spain last fall to walk the famed Camino de Santiago. Our conversation touches on her actual Camino experience and more so, how she has found inspiration to continue to live life artfully with a true Camino spirit.
One of Katharine many gifts is her ability to be fully present and pay attention to the world and ourselves within it. Her professional and personal careers have been dedicated in service to the growth of others in leadership and living.
Always drawn to writing, Katharine has recently come to embrace and honour her poet’s voice, paying fresh attention to each moment. Through poetry and contemplative creative non-fiction, Katharine shares the beauty in her imperfect, sometimes broken, mostly well lived and much loved life in her weekly blog,A Wabi Sabi Life, a celebration of existence unfolding in all its mess and mystery, with all its grit and grace.
A globally recognized practitioner, teacher and mentor of the Circle Way, Katharine is adept at the art of hosting...ensuring the space for others to be seen and understood as they navigate their own learning pathways.
A Wabi Sabi Life blog and its page on her Camino: http://awabisabilife.ca/the-portuguese-coastal-camino/
Katharine’s essay, “A Creative Walks Her Camino,” is forthcoming in SAGE-ING: The Journal of Creative Aging, December 2022, Issue 43 – online publication around December 21: http://www.sageing.ca/
Ellipses Thinking... will return on Wednesday Jan 25.
In this special Season 2 preview host Greg Dowler-Coltman offers listeners, a sense of what he and his guests will explore this season. As well as paying tribute to his friend and coach Bruce McLeod.
Julia Coltman is the host of "OFF THE SHELF", the newest podcast from the Ordinary Podcasting Network. On this special Bonus episode of Ellipses Thinking... She shares her love of literature and why she decided to launch a podcast book club!
In Lena McKenzie’s words, she “inherited a fabric of beliefs, woven by generations of women…a fabric that tells stories of not just one family line, but a constellation of them.” Her memories of the bond forged between her mother from the Philippines and her paternal Grandmother, from Minneapolis, speak to a powerful wisdom co-created by a shared desire to embrace all there was to learn. A proud Filipina Canadian, Lena’s roots are in classical music, having studied voice in Manila before embarking on a professional career that has included TV, film, musical theatre and concert halls as soloist and member of Asia’s premiere classical crossover trio, the Opera Belles. In 2020, after spending a decade performing around the world, Lena found home on Salt Spring Island off the coast of Vancouver Island. Here she has found herself with the time and reflective space to return to her love of song writing and recently, released her first EP, Finding North, an ethereal reflection of her complex cultural background. She speaks of finding peace with the idea of ‘home’ even when home exists in many places, and how she finds beauty as an artist in embracing the idea of the amateur and the excitement of beginning again.
Deep integration of past and present as we dream forward and design our collective future…that is one of the many things that is on the mind and in the heart of Lance Cardinal. Lance is a multi-disciplinary creative professional and proud member of the Treaty 8 Bigstone Cree Nation. His family roots stem deep from his small home community of Calling Lake, Alberta. Over the past 2 decades, Lance has built an impressive catalogue of work as a multi award winning Visual and Concept Artist, Performer, Writer, Teacher, Facilitator and Cultural Healer. His company, Soulflame, is committed to raising the recognition of indigenous community members through creativity, positivity, and conversations. Lance’s enthusiasm is infectious and his commitment to teaching lives in everything he does. His online presence, provides snapshots of the process in process of his mural paintings…his YouTube series Indigenous Art Adventures with Lance Cardinal, provides the platform for his skills as performer, visual artist and educator to reach through the screens to young people, of all ages, to introduce or reinforce important learnings in his desire to help bridge the gap of understanding between Indigenous and Non-indigenous Canadians. Whether creating an original shoe design for an iconic local company, a mural celebrating the science of indigenous land learnings or a breathtaking celebration of Turtle Island as a logo for the Edmonton Oilers, Lance remains completely focused on his passion to share deep and reverent knowings through the imagery of his art and the openness of his heart.
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Nicole Schafenacker, lives her life in a constant state of ellipsis thinking. Her work as an interdisciplinary artist and researcher has always existed in the liminal spaces between; a space of curiosity in which the unknown is the only way we can ever truly be discovery-ready. She sees in art, the existence of pathways to create both meaning and understanding, to bridge knowledge systems and ways of knowing and to make the possible, personal. Through her work, she embraces radical, transformative approaches to addressing the challenges of the complex issues that we face as one species alongside others on Earth. A cohort member of the International Centre for Art for Social Change, Nicole has spent the last 5 years living, studying and working in northern BC and northern Norway and is thrilled to now be living on the edge of Marsh Lake, Yukon. Her artistic signature is indelibly driven by a commitment to social justice and framed in terms of action research in which she is as curious about what might result in the space of creation as the creative result itself. She is currently Artist in Residence with the Yukon Chapter of the Canadian Parks and Wilderness Society. She is deeply committed to and engaged in working to undo the colonial relations at the root of the climate crisis and fully acknowledges her role in making active the ongoing process of decolonizing self and society.
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Facing the challenge of choosing a focus for his PHd thesis in Computational Media Design, Owen Brierley felt the panic we so often feel when the canvas feels too blank, too wide open…But almost immediately he found himself drawing courage from the voice of a mentor dating back nearly 3 decades, specifically on the importance of trusting self in order to enter the void. By his own admission, Owen Brierley’s life has always been about transitions fed by an insatiable curiosity. At times those transitions have felt like, "now what!?" At other times, "what's next?!" But he has never felt a stranger to an ellipsis state and the creative opportunity it has consistently offered. A performer from a very young age, his mind was blown when a friend introduced him to a new computer "fad" called the World Wide Web and he leapt into the brave new world of digital media design and production. A natural ability to bridge gaps in understanding between disparate groups of experts, has allowed him to collaborate across many disciplines in the arts and sciences. In his latest ellipses thinking adventure, Owen is discovering the world of academia and the process of doctoral studies in the Computational Media Design program at the University of Calgary. In this space, Owen is playing with Intelligent Virtual Beings and the human side of research in video gaming and virtual realities. He is fascinated by the relationships we create with Roombas, our wariness of autonomous vehicles, our complex evolving trust with Siri or Alexa, and our joy of watching and interacting with non-player characters in open-world games. Owen knows beauty to exist in these virtual creatures, and is intrigued by how the artists who design them might help us appreciate the beauty in our relationships with them.
Sister/Singer/Songwriters Emily & Samantha Schultz continue to discover, (sometimes uncomfortably) the power of vulnerability in shaping and maturing their artistic voices. Over the years, I have witnessed them carve out and navigate the complicated relationships that are demanded of artists and their art and to me, in a manner that demonstrated incredible courage and imagination. Trusting their intuitive powers and anchored by strong foundational values rooted in family, they continue to find ways to show up as their most authentic selves… as artists, as women, as daughters, partners and sisters, even when it has felt incredibly challenging to do so. Over the course of two conversations, we had the opportunity to trace from childhood what drew them both the music, the importance of finding and nurturing community, their ongoing articulation of what success means on a personal level and how both have been and continue to be in life and through their art, powerful advocates for mental health. They also shared some insight into their creative process, trusting that when they are open and ready for the muse to arrive, they stand a chance of capturing what they need to spin it into music.
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Nicole Deibert is clearly is on her own Renaissance Woman journey. Whether at work as Head Scenic Painter at the Citadel Theatre in Edmonton, at home surrounded by acrylics, oils or water colours or her digital canvas…in her kitchen with an ever-widening palette of garden delights heading into preserve jars…or as she currently steps into the entrepreneurial ring, Nicole boldly embraces her true creative nature. In our conversation, she shares how she loves the invitations to figure out artistic solutions to the challenges of creating visually stunning illusions in the theatre. We talk about the path to mastery and the role that intuition and experimentation plays. I also asked how she continues to access the kind of space that allows her to drop in and get lost in the creative zone of a work in progress. I hope you will join us for another conversation on ellipsis thinking. And if you are enjoying this program, please spread the word with your community of curious listeners.
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Ciele Beau 'sees' a piece of music. Growing up this was normal. It wasn't until 3 years into her visual art studies at the then, Emily Carr Institute of Art and Design, that she learned there was a thing called Synesthesia - a condition where the brain mixes up the senses and stimulation of one sensory pathway leading to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory pathway. Her discovery of her synesthesia has led her not only to better understanding her sensory experience of the world but has also allowed her to embrace it as a powerful modality for creative expression. She has created a painting practice around this experience that allows her to translate sheet music of her favourite songs into colour on the canvas. Her work focuses on the human condition, our emotional responses and everyday experiences. Her visual art explodes off the canvases or walls of the urban landscape with a vibrancy of colour and shape, that invites the inner child in us all, outside to play in this imaginative world she has created.
Ciele is a full-time freelance creative, and has worked with companies such as Pabst Blue Ribbon, Warner Brothers (CW’s Riverdale), Slack, Adobe, Vancouver Mural Festival, Vancouver Pride, Georgia Straight, Sarah McLachlan School of Music, SAD Magazine, Sofar Sounds and more.
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3 time World Improv Champion and funny man, Donovan Workun. has been bringing his comedy into the lives of audiences on stage, film and across the air waves for over 30 years and is currently touring in the lead role of the runaway musical hit Jason Kenney's Hot Boy Summer. His comedy duo Atomic Improv has toured across North America, Asia and Mexico and are the first improv group to headline Montreal’s Just For Laughs Comedy Festival. A lead writer and performer for 7 seasons in the hit CBC Radio One Series: The Irrelevant Show. Donovan has had the pleasure of performing live alongside Mike Myers, Wayne Brady, Colin Mochrie, Dave Thomas, Joe Flaherty, and Kevin McDonald. His extensive work in film has him sharing the screen with Patrick Swayze, Tom Green, Demi Moore and Tim Curry. This summer he is thrilled to be opening for Amy Schumer and Pete Davidson. Like any true improviser, Donovan has always embraced a “Yes, Let’s” attitude to life and is grateful for the doors that have opened as a result of accepting all offers. Still, he acknowledges the challenges of the juggling act we create when yes is our go to response. Knowing laughter to be good medicine, Donovan reflects on how as he gets older, he is coming to better understand the deeper value his improvisational powers have in serving to bring joy to others by reminding us that laughter has the power to get us through the other stuff, not to mention keep us all learning something new every day.
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Alana Hawley Purvis, reflects on her recent Canadian Screen Award nominated role in the feature film Range Roads. She shares how the film is at its core, about the struggle to return to oneself, and how her personal process of working on it, served as a powerful mirror to her own journey as an artist and a mother. In both roles, she was reminded daily of her true commitment to fully living each moment for what it presents and how she continues to strive to redefine success and her relationship to it as a pursuit of joy. In the second half of our conversation, Alana goes on to share how she has discovered deeply meaningful work away from the stage with Trans Vocal Care. Through working with trans clients to find gender identity through their vocal instrument Alana is able to support their journey so that each unique voice might fully represent their authentic self.
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As I considered the idea of ellipsis thinking and its invitation to take a moment to wonder from within, I found myself curious about how artists here, especially those with deep personal relationships with Ukraine, might be processing and responding to what we were all now seeing in this chaotic and terrifying time. I welcome two conversations with Canadian artists with family and friends living and fighting to survive in Ukraine. In both these conversations, I was struck with the common theme of how vital it is to find your authentic way or the language that feels right to you and that best allows you to express what needs to come forth. Visual and graphic artist Larisa Sembaliuk Cheladyn, reflects on how for over 40 years as a creative, she has always been compelled to find the light in order to balance out the power of the dark. Theatre artists Matthew Mackenzie and Patrick Lundeen of Pyretic Productions (Toronto/Edmonton) are living their company’s mission to raise awareness of political and social issues as they work to provide tangible support to friends and family now caught in a war zone.
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Stacey Cabaj, a Professor of Acting & Pedagogy and Faculty Fellow of Mission & Identity at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, she shares her journey from Perfect to Play to Magic. A lifelong believer that perfect was her goal, Stacey shares how she was able to finally release the burden of perfection and the freedom she has experienced in doing so. Weaving the wisdom of Mary Oliver, and others into her own evolving life, she speaks of an incredible sense of wild belonging in simply being still and choosing to no longer define life as a self improvement project but rather one of reclaiming identity as she calls out from the mountaintop ‘stop striving, you’re already here.”
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Valerie McIntyre-Baird always wrestled with her relationship with being the 'creative one'...that is until she embraced the invitation of designing her life as an experiment. A certified Forest Therapist, she draws on the power of nature and our relationship within it, to guide her fullest expression each day. Nicknamed The Purposeful Optimist, she delights in the best case scenario as she approaches each opportunity as threshold experience.
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Ellipsis Thinking... lives at the heart of creative life. It invites us to park judgement and perfection, to drive curiosity towards possibility. The ellipsis, alone amongst punctuators holds space for the future…those three dots…build the perfect bridge from where you have been and are now, to where you are next meant to be...
Greg Dowler-Coltman, arts educator, theatre director and now executive coach, is fascinated by how creativity shows up in us all. Through conversations with people actively engaged in their own creative adventures, those who identify as artists and those who choose to experience life through an artistic lens, we shed light on relationships that shape and inspire us as we meet the challenges, discoveries, and learnings we make when we courageously invite our creative spirit forth.
Coming March 2022!
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