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Ep 35 :
Eliza’s work helping babies sleep, move, and feel better revolves around her respect for babies and toddlers as whole people who enter the world aware, desiring to communicate and learn, and with the ability to process and self-heal within relationship.

Her Conscious Baby practice employs unique approaches to non-cry-it-out sleep, baby-led milestone development, healing birth trauma, and parental attunement to non-verbal cues and crying.

As a certified Aware Parenting Instructor, Infant Developmental Movement Educator, Body-Mind Centering® Practitioner, and trained Feldenkrais® practitioner, Eliza’s life-changing perspectives and respectful solutions toward common parenting challenges transcend “typical” parenting advice.

In this conversation you will hear us talk about:

• The emotionally charged nature of sleep in the family system
• The connection of sleep and emotions
• "Sleep is a state, not a skill"
• Pent up feelings as stress as most common problem that interferes with sleep
• Crying as a natural way to release stress
• How learned habits of emotional expression can feel like instinct
• The connection of parents early childhood experiences and patterns with their babies
• Getting beyond the right or wrong of comfort nursing
• Exploring the underlying needs connected to sleep : emotional expression, closeness
• Crying in arms as a bonding experience
• Potential of crying becoming a pathway for communication
• The potential impact of cranial alignment and tongue tie on nursing, crying, and sleeping

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ep # 34
Mallika and Ashley have a conversation on raising children inspired by topics from the book Hunt, Gather, Parent by Michaeleen Doucleff.

You'll here us talk about:

• The lack of meaningful work that children have the opportunity to engage in culturally
• The pressure that comes from an expectation of parents always enjoying their kids
• Finding a balance between focus on self and community
• The potential benefits of inviting children to work on family needs from a young age
• Shifting our internal orientation to acts of caretaking home as a sacred
• Link to Kim John Payne's Simplicity Parenting
• The power of presence in tantrums
• Simplifying the way we ask for kids participation is daily tasks
• Letting go of expectations that child will change behaviors quickly
• Raising children to be embraced by life that's bigger then them
• The importance of children integrating the needs of others

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ep. #33
If you've dipped your toe in the waters of yogic practice or philosophy, and you have if you've ever even googled "mindfulness", this conversation will deepen and clarify some of the common mistranslations and misunderstandings of how to live our lives while also walking a spiritual path. We especially explore the ways being a parent can often feel "in the way" of our spiritual goals and practices. The difficult distance between our ideals and reality. Kaya speaks so beautifully to the gift we can give ourselves and our children when we practice and live our spiritual journey as family.

In this episode, I share about my own personal upbringing, raised in a yogic intentional community. Kaya also has a deep and meaningful relationship with this community, and we both hold so much love and respect for the teachings, the people and the beauty that is present there. While I do speak to some of my personal experiences and interpretations, I am sure they were unique to my own experience, my own family system and the projecting we as humans do onto others. So I ask you to hold what you hear with the awareness of both being true: reality and projection.

Things we touch on:

The misconceptions of practicing non-attachment
The absolute and the relative realities we exist in
Spiritual bypass
Splitting of life into spiritual life and the rest
The four stages of life
How not to sacrifice your spiritual life
Accepting or rejecting mental/emotional reactions
We can model our humanity for our kids
What family spiritual practice can look like
Clarifying karma yoga and selfless service
I do my work so you can do yours
Where to start

Kaya Mindlin is a Yoga therapist and educator who has been teaching the “softer side of yoga” for 19 years.
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You can also check out some of our other older episodes:

Episode 2 - Baba Yaga and Our Wild Woman Intuition

Episode 3 - Exploring Our Inner Knowing with Kadhi Bo

Episode 4 - Earth Magick and Regenerative Ways of Living with Marysia Miernowska

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ep # 32
John Wolfstone is back for another conversation with Ashley! They dive deep into the exploration of adult initiation, its function and its presence as a missing link to a more integrated and meaningful life.

John is a storyteller, filmmaker, community organizer and a mentor for Rites of Passage work. John is a curious explorer and question asker.

You'll here us talk about:

• The loneliness of modern adulthood
• Almost all indigenous culture have rites of passage ceremonies into adulthood
• The functions of rites of passage : 1. Connecting people to their purpose in community 2. to mature the person so that they can become a generative adult
• Johns personal path of creating adult initiation for himself
• Johns purpose of "help make human beings capable of being in service to the great turning"
• Bill Plotkins concept of moving from egocentric to ecocentric
• The shift to adulthood as the death of the hero
• Cultural practices of childrearing that interfere with the development of a sense of interconnection and humility
• Life phases and rites of passage through out the lifespan
• Village as a side effect of people tending culture
• A complete adult initiation requires mentors, elders, and youngers
• "That's what adulthood is, someone who is giving forth to a culture, and that culture is feeding the wheel of life."
• Acknowledging that we are living in an ecocide, creating space for grief
• Meeting "the river of grief" in the transition into adulthood
• Creating healthy containers to build our capacity to feel fully
• Creating a "cultural basket" that is woven by strands of containership that are organic, and help you come back to your intelligence and the intelligence of life
• The importance of ancestry in adult initiation

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ep. #31
This conversation and episode is truly one of Mallika's favorite of all time. Lara Veleda Vesta is an author and illistrator, exploring dís-ability, rites of passage, ancestral mythology, folklore and the sacred creative. She lives with Myalgic Encephalomeylitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, a disease caused by viruses and inflammation with an infectious trigger. Prior to her illness, Lara was a university professor teaching classes in English and writing and a PhD student in Philosophy and Religion.
Lara's deep work and knowledge of integrating difficult initiatory experiences, expanded by her use of ritual, research and linguistics, help her blend a beautiful weaving of return to old ways, old knowing and the deep peace that is available to us all.

Explored in this episode:

• Why narrative is so important to healing
• Stages of initiation and rite of passage
• Finding the joy available in healing
• Reorienting our job/to-dos to come from spirit and ancestors
• Sacred life is available to any one of us
• Collective rite of passage this past year
• Redefining our values and letting things go
• How do we know when we are on a "return"
• Ritualizing every aspect of the passage
• Grief is part of the return and integration of the passage
• Silence is integral for sacred work
• The potency of being together in a ceremonial frame
• Illness and disability were hallmarks of initiation in historic stories
• The opportunity and communication that comes through as symptoms of illness
• How to stay out of resistance to pain and other difficult symptoms
• The power and potential of the millions of people who are ill or living with disability
• What is your super power?

Quotes from Lara:
"We need each other's stories so we can know what's survivable."

"What I have found useful is ritualizing every aspect of the process."

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Ep. #30
In today's episode, Mallika invites her friend, Elanne Kresser, to share a deep exploration of cultural healing and the hope for education that teaches our children to live within and honor the beautiful space we occupy, birthing a new paradigm of partnership, of tending and of caring for all beings.

Mallika and Elanne have been friends since 2013 and have been in conversation with each other about many topics, from conscious parenting and healthy relating styles, to the current paradigm of "compulsory schooling" and examining or shifting cultural constructs.

Elanne Kresser is devoted to the labor of birthing a world in which all voices, both human and otherwise, are honored. She has practiced in the Ordinary Mind School of Zen for two decades and directed The Dharma School for children for eight years, and her adult life has been dedicated to community-based, culturally-generative, earth-honoring education. She is a practitioner of ancestral and cultural healing and loves supporting others to reclaim their self-worth, life purpose, and sense of belonging. Her people hail from Bavaria, Bohemia, Jämtland, Sweden and England.

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Peter Grey
John Taylor Gatto
"Weapons of Mass Instruction" By John Taylor Gatto

Things we touch on in this episode:

• Feeling belonging with place
• Personal wellness = "how able am I to meet the changing conditions of life"
• Wellness is relational
• Animism, at it's foundation, is relationship
• How teaching in today's system that is devoid of meaningful work
• The ancestors are who hands us our culture
• Depth of cultural healing available through getting right with our ancestors
• Tending ancestral connection through education
• A new paradigm of relating and tending and caring
• The natural friction when shifting from an old to a new paradigm
• Distinguishing between education and compulsory schooling and the values at the base of the current schooling structure
• Ways that we can each play a role in starting this shift
• The possibility that we re-imagine schooling is here
• Homeschooling, free-schooling, unschooling, democratic schooling, and the movement for self-directed education
• What practical ways can this be implemented in a schooling setting
• The clarity that can come from ancestral involvement in these projects

Quotes from Elanne:
Wellness requires relationally (12 min)
The ancestors are who hands us our culture (24)
Education is ultimately the transmission of culture (25)

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ep. #29
Mallika explores and deepens into the framework of syncing our lives up with the phases of our menstrual cycles. She explains each of the 4 phases of the menstrual cycle and how they are mirrored by cycles in the natural world.

Topics touched on:

• Frames for cyclical living
• Tuning into phases of the moon
• Menstrual cycles mirrored in the natural world
• Micro and Macro lens of this framework
• Acknowledging for ourselves allows us to communicate to others
• Embracing the wisdom and the
• How to help folx who don't have this biology understand the wisdom of listening to these cycles
• Practical tips for working your schedule in accord with our cycles

Spring/Follicular phase is a time for: Tending, watering, listening to your desires, brainstorming what's possible, loving and trusting with a young heart, feeling the energy of creation, acknowledging fruits of your labor that are starting to form.

Summer/Ovulatory phase for: Taking action, finding support, inviting and collaborating, selling your boss (or yourself) on the new business plan, being with old conflict in a new way, enjoying yourself and following your pleasure.

Autumn/Luteal phase: honoring what came to fruition, softening back into yourself, enjoying the bounty of your efforts, taking stalk of what didn't work, beginning to prepare for winter by recognizing where you need to conserve your energy or plan for more nourishment.

Winter/bleed phase is a time for: resting, nourishment, releasing what needs to go, going within, writing down your dreams, letting go of attachments, healing, being.

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ep. #28
Ashley talks with Abigail Heins, a fellow water woman and a deep feeler, weaver, and healer.
This conversation was inspired by the cocreation of Ashley and Abigail to start a water prayer circle for women who are wanting to become mothers, which starts in May!

Topics we touch on :

• Wellness in relationship to openness to other beings, and flow of water
• Abigails path to working with water through the water in the body
• The lymph system as the body's inner rivers
• The connection between sound, water, and creation
• The whales, their songs, and some of their teachings
• The waters connection to life and creation
• Sound as a key to movement and water
• The depth of the prayer to bring children into the world in this time
• The seeds of the water mama circle

Abigail is a womb guardian, a weaver, and a voice of the whales. Fertility, and the natural cycles of life has always been at the core of her passion and work. From teaching on natural birth control and womb blood empowerment, to sharing Ayurvedic breast massage and whale womb healings. Her offerings support people to root into the wisdom of their body and the wisdom of this earth. Intended to support the reclamation of our juicy, pulsing, sensual soul connection to life. Her current focus is to support the wombed ones prepare for conscious conception. To be anchored in their own vessels of love and indigenous roots in this earth, to birth the future generations of star children. You can check out her IG @whalewombweaving and her website ~ wombweaving.com

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ep. #27
Mallika and Ashley dive into an area of Mallika's work that has sprung from her own healing journey - working with story, metaphor, myth and ancestral stories. Mallika and Ashley both share pieces of their own ancestral stories, how they honor the broader sense of self and working with the pain and discomfort they have been born to work with in their own stories.

Mallika is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California, currently living in North Carolina. While not practicing as a therapist, she is currently guiding women through re-membering ancestral wisdom, reclaiming their intuition and releasing patterns of self-inflicted pain. Mallika holds groups and individual sessions for moms to step into the unknown places with grounding resources, unconditional love and relational skills to lead them from fear and pain to whole, supported and strong ways of moving through the world.

Through Mallika's therapeutic skills, knowledge of yogic philosophy and practices, and experiences/trainings in conscious mothering, she discovered a responsive approach to working with her clients. In that work she brings humor, love and the ability to stay with the difficulties that arise. She eases clients through the painful and scary places to generate nourishing support, deeply connected awareness, and to embody the blessings of their lineages.

What we touch on:

• Stories and myth help us know ourselves and our experiences
• Relationship between belonging and ancestral stories
• Impact of ancestral stories being erased through war, colonization and migration
• Ways that old ancestral experiences continue to be enacted and lived out today
• Being with individual pieces of stories as a way to deepen our relationship to parts of ourselves
• Coming to terms with having personal lineage lines in both colonizers and the persecuted
• Finding this work through Narrative Therapy, Carl Jung's archetypes and Gestalt Therapy
• Tarot as a source of metaphor and imagery
• They ways story lives outside of us and within us
• Awareness of expanded sense of self
• Being careful not to bypass the experiences of this life
• Our job is to be ruled by our prayer
• Difference between allowing feelings and being ruled by feelings
• Passing down of the internalized parent voice
• How our life, even the painful parts, are an offering to our ancestral healing
• What is Mallika's new program, Myth, Animism and My Ancestral Stories all about!

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ep. #26
Ashley talks with Dr. Mia Hetenyi, a writer, ceremonialist, and grief doula.
Their conversation weaves through many topics, with a continued thread of the power of the wild world to support our grief and lives.

Topics we touch on :

• • Spring happenings in the landscapes we live with. The spring energy of waking up, growing, and shifting *
• *Our sense of safety impacting how open we are to tuning into eros and aliveness in land
• Ancestral connection to specific landscapes
• How nature can help us recalibrate our worthiness and belonging
• "Trauma doesn't exist in nature", grief and hard experiences move through the animal body
• Systemic racism and patriarchy impacting access to the wild
• The importance of children building relationships with the wild
• Ways that Hungarian culture honors death
• Redwood trees supporting Mia's capacity to get sober and grieve
• Addiction as a spiritual illness
• Feeling safe and held by sprit/nature/other as the groundwork for moving big feelings
• Cultural patterns of emotional suppression impacting our grief
• Building relationship to the divine mother, and healing the mother wound
• Meeting resistance to taking care of the body
• Lack of cultural containers for grief and the large amounts of unprocessed grief in this culture
• Grief opening our connection to our true self, and clarifying our relationships

Dr. Mia Hetenyi is a grief doula for recovering humans. She serves as an inner guide, ceremonial facilitator and writer with a doctoral degree in Clinical Psychology. She has been an eternal student of all things related to the soul, psyche and the the devotional path of the Great Mother. Along with 25+ years of clinical experience, she has spent most of her life doing a deep dive into studying and practicing meditation, inner journey, ceremony and ritual, dream work and energy healing.

After recovering herself from addictions and experiencing an awakening to her soul, she fused her knowledge together to create an innovative approach to healing trauma, codependency, addiction and most ailments connected to difficulty grieving...the root of so much of our modern day suffering.

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Resources referenced:
The Sophia Code by Kaia Ra
The Smell of Rain on Dust by Martin Prechtel

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ep. #25
Mallika welcomes her husband into a conversation about the trajectory of their 17 year relationship, particularly the elements that have supported authentic connection and getting through the dark times of disconnection. He speaks with humor and vulnerability about the reality of conscious parenting while working really hard to meet Mallika in a deep and loving marriage.

The flow of the conversation going something like this:

• The dance of "fighting" that we did for many years - Hold Me Tight by Sue Johnson
• Mallika's love language not being met well by Steve - Love Languages
• Our Enneagram Episode on being in relationships
• Do we think we are good parents?
• Ancestral wounds and patterns showing up in our kids
• Priorities in parenting - Raising emotionally healthy kids
• When and why to transition out of RIE parenting
• When we thought our marriage might be over
• Main nuggets that Steve took away from couples therapy
• The impact of jealousy early on in our relationship
• Maintaining attraction to each other as we age
• Are we desensitized to what is attractive to us by porn and media?
• The deeper relational work we both had to do to heal
• Getting through the belly of the beast and emerging into a totally new relationship
• The surprising impact of how much their therapist liked Steve
• How distraction can help find connection
• "Don't go to bed angry" isn't good advice
• Hidden Brain episode on marriage

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ep. #24 
In this season episode we talk about how we can align ourselves with the energy of spring and ideas for creating a spring altar at home! 

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The Circle Round Book

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ep. #23

Mallika has a conversation with Rui Liu ("Rae"), CEO and Founder of Grass People Tree, a tea company bringing the story of living tea and the wild, indigenous and ancient tea from her homeland in Southwest China. This deep conversation touches on holistic wellness, personal integrity and the joy of laughing and being together in a simple life.

Topics we touch on:

• Relationship between tea and holistic wellness
• How tea is picked "alive" and "whole", like a human body
• How Rui's sense of home changed when she started Grass People Tree
• Learning to translate and teach something you innately know
• How tea is connecting us to the ancestors with every sip, every leaf
• Bringing tea to London, a place that colonized China, and healing relationship to tea
• The ancestral wisdom that lives in all of us
• The need to balance the intellect with the primal feeling of being a human
• Simplify to come back to our inner wisdom and connection to everything
• Tea being a process to facilitate "getting rid of" the excessing doing in our lives
• The root of helping others is our self-work
• The impact of being fixed on one perception

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ep. #22
In this episode, Ashley speaks with Aaron Schiller!

Aaron is the founder of Launch Medicine and the host of the launch medicine podcast. He is focused on helping people find the sweet nectar in their life and business and get their vision out into the world in a healing way. Prior to starting Launch Medicine, Aaron coached founders and executives from small businesses to organizations such as Apple, Yale University, and Norcal Cannabis.

Topics we dive into:

• Water as medicine, movement, and central to the cycles of life
• The connection between the way we treat water and grief
• Water and spirit as a ever-present help available to us
• Water supporting our own growth and blossoming
• Bring ceremony and prayer into family life
• The complexities of relating to our businesses, money, and capitalism
• Bringing our deep gifts into the world through business
• The process of launching a new business or rebranding
• Collaboration as the key to business success
• Reframing business as a relationship
• Going all-in on your passions and missions
• Aaron’s history with reconnecting with spirit through AA
• Repatterining ancestry through prayer and practice
• The inquiry of how to treating your family as sacred
• Integrating the spiritual into your daily life
• Transforming beyond the nuclear family

Aaron’s information:

Launch Medicine Website

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ep. #21
In todays episode, Ashley interviews Tania Laisuna, David Coral, and Lorena Rodriguez.
Tania and David call in from the Putumayo region of Columbia where they live, and work on a community project that fosters the continuation of ancestral knowledge and the transition to a more sustainable way of living.

They weave an exploration of "buen vivir", an indigenous concept from South America that expands colonized perspective of wellness.

This episode of full of beauty and life! We hope you enjoy :)

This episode includes full translation in Spanish and English!
¡Este episodio incluye traducción completa en español e inglés!

Topics we touch on:

• Broadening our understanding of wellness to include cycles of the earth and ethical codes of community and relationship to ecosystem.
• This concept of wellness, or buen vivre, as intrinsically related to our contact with all living beings
• Morning practice of greeting yourself
• The interrelationship between how inner waters and outer waters
• History as a living thing
• True wellness integrates history of place and of people
• Giving back to the people are were mistreated and harmed is part of wellness
• Building relationships to native plants as a pathway to reconnection
• Building relationships with the indigenous people and stories where plants medicines originate.
• Sacred medicines like tobacco, chicha, cocoa, alcohol
• Circling as a process for inquiry and as a way to build relationships with medicine
• The continued effort it takes to heal and create wellness.

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ep. #20
In today's episode, Mallika shares a conversation she had back in early December with Amber Magnolia Hill. Amber shares a lot about her personal experience loosing her mother in a car accident 5 years ago. She graces us with her vulnerability and authentic emotional experience as we dive into what It means to loose someone so vital, how she continues to tend her relationship with her mother and the entwined relationship with life/death-tending and motherhood.

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Things we dive into in this episode:

• Amber's experience of the grief of loosing her mother
• Little "g" and big "G" grief
• Grief is sacred space that continues to hold your relationship to something that existed.
• The darkness that thrives on the feeling of being alone
• The Inevitability of loss and death
• How our culture is set up to deny death
• Spontaneous, simple rituals to remember
• Angelica, Osha and Violet - plants for allowing and supporting grief
• The grief the come with motherhood
• Impact of raising children outside of village/community
• Motherhood and tending life and death
• Creating containers for children that minimize cultural trauma
• Healing and emotional self-regulation for ourselves as parents
• The collective grief we are feeling during Covid
• The complexity that can be held inside a conversation

The Denial of Death by Earnest Becker
The Belonging Podcast
Atlantic Article The Nuclear Family Was a Mistake
Rachelle Garcia Seliga Innate Traditions
Inuit Morality Play book about parenting
Elizabeth Kubler Ross
Brené Brown podcast with David Kessler

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ep. #19

In this episode Ashley talks with Cass Phelps about the process and potential for creating internal containers for healing and growth.

Cass offers workshops throughout the world and conducts a private practice in Kauai, HI. His gift of insight allows him to assist his students in their Self Awakening and healing process; realizing their inspirations and full potential.

Cass is a Somatic Movement therapist, certified Reiki Master, Sound Healing therapist and lifelong musician. He also creates movement performance works and is known to call on different forms of Art Therapy, dance and the innovative intelligence of play. His unique approach to sound, breath, movement and resting-stillness unifies the creative and healing arts together as one. A strong sense of humor and laid-back style help Cass to deliver the awakening transmission: “All Is Within.”

In this episode you will here us talk about:

• Creating containers for healing and growth
• The relationship between nourishment and expansion
• Tuning into the biological intelligence of life
• The importance of listening to our bodies' needs
• Resolving trauma through presence
• The gift process
• Phase 1: Receive your own gift
• Phase 2: Nourish yourself with your gift
• Phase 3: Share your gifts to the world
• Receiving the nourishment of your own gift
• The magnetism of connecting with essence
• The gift of sensitivity
• Bringing this work to children

Resources Mentioned:
Cass's Website: https://awake-one.com/
The Gift Process: https://awake-one.com/gift-process
Video of Cass teaching Biological Breath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Ppb-mnO30
Video of Cass teaching a spinal spiral: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj1pdWmSwOc

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ep. #18
Ashely and Mallika explore various pillars of wellness and how to bring them in during the winter months. Winter is not just a time of year where energy disappears, but actually there is a different kind of energy present and available to us.
It's an energy of darkness - not like evil, but like the quiet, underbelly of life, the waters we were born from, the soft, warmth that we all need.

Topics we cover:

• Chinese Medicine's calendar of the seasons
• Lack of relationship between capitalist economy and the need for rest
• Ways to incorporate deepening rest even when we have to keep working full-time
• Myelination of our nerves and our bodies
• Why electronics are worse for us in the winter
• Energy available for slow evening learning of craft activities
• Great time of year to practice meditating, especially if you have a hard time with it normally
• Using the landscape to prompt our psychological processes
• Dream journaling
• Movement practice in the dark
• Foods that nourish and foods that deplete

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Jessica Prentice's cookbook Full Moon Feast

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ep. #17
Stasha Ginsberg is a lover of depth and discovery. She is a published author and poet. She is also a storyteller, teacher, mother, dancer, musician, performer, tarot reader and facilitator of soulful writes of passage programs for youth and adults.

Stasha is a midwife of story journeys. She perceives each human to be a wild matryoshka, or nesting doll, full of stories. She loves the creative process and its capacity to crack open a story and lead one on a rite of passage, mythic journey through the landscape of body, soul, place, longing, memory & imagination.
Mallika and Stasha sat down to talk about the role the story can play in healing and creating wellness. Stasha shares about her personal initiation into healing work using story and we also dive deep into the layers of medicine that are available within the story of Vasilisa and Baba Yaga.
Topics we touch one:
- Story is the fabric of our humaness
- "Spiritual enlightenment" ca actually be a bypass for doing the dark and deep work
- The story that came knocking for Stasha
- Connecting the personal and the mythic
- Story activates parts of ourselves and a wholeness of self can emerge
- The stories in our heads
- Five Rhythms dance
- Disney versions of old fairytales
- Longterm work with one story
- Vasilisa the Brave (meeting Baba Yaga)
- Working for the elixir of life
- This is a time to journey into the dark with Vasilisa and others
- The time to do the work and the time to set that work down
- The Individual call Into the forest
- How grounding simple work is in times of great fear

"How do we go to sleep and trust?"

"Ultimately story just wants us to make sense out of what it means to be human."

"Those stories speak louder from the heart than from how we see them or pick them apart"

Fierce Feminine Divinities of Eurasia and Latin America

Stasha wanted to make sure to add a piece about how to embody the work you do with a story. After letting a story live in you, finding a way to be witnessed in the embodiment of that story is a culmination or crescendo of that process.

Listen to me reading Vasilisa's story (as written by Clarissa Pinkola Estes)
In Episode 2
And I dive into it again in Ep. 12

Here is a link to Stasha's performance/monologue, the end piece of her work with Kirsten Wilson in Boulder, Co. ( Letting the Body Speak )
Kirsten's website

Stasha's website: stockingstories.wordpress.com
Stasha on Facebook: The Wild Matryoshka
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ep. #16
John and Ashley recorded an emergent conversation for today's podcast episode. The conversation is packed with so much wisdom while still retaining a flow and easeful aliveness. There are SO many amazing quotable nuggets in this one.
John Wolfstone is a storyteller, filmmaker, community organizer and a mentor for Rites of Passage work. John is a curious explorer and question asker.
Here are some of the questions I (Mallika) hear being held in this conversation and the work that John is doing In the world:
How do we do the work, the healing and rebuilding, that is here for us to do in this lifetime, and not get swept away into the anxiety of wanting to also see the results of the work right now?
How can we move to the next stage of development from the adolescent type of maturity associated with the hyper-Individualism and our current definition of freedom?
How can we actually find more freedom in "staying put" than in the flight of travel, or new relationships or careers?

Topics we cover:
The missing relationship with death
What is Eros and how to connect with it
What does it mean to rest
Reclamation of our aliveness
Rite of passage/ quest for Initiation
Hyper-Individualism
Relationship with place
Polyamory and staying with one partner
Loyalty and integrity
Tamera Peace Research Center In Portugal
When healed people start a community
Healing self In relation to birth family
Ancestor relationships bring down anxiety
Recommendations for building relationship with ancestors
Childhood trauma living in the lineage
Wounds are the sacred cut Into the gift

John's website: www.johnwolfstone.com

Ashley's website
Ashley's Instagram
Ashley's Parent Prayer Circle

Mallika's website
Mallika's Instagram
Mallika's Embodied Therapeutic Art Process

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ep. #15
Here is an introduction to how the show will be changing, and why.
Ashley and I have known each other for years, and have had so many deep, wonderful and expansive conversations about healing, relationships, growth, spirit, and being authentic.

Stay tuned for Ashley's first Interview!
And many more episodes to come.

Ashley's website
Ashley's Instagram
Ashley's Parent Prayer Circle

Mallika's website
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Mallika's Embodied Therapeutic Art Process

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ep. #14
Steph Barron Hall is a speaker, certified Enneagram coach, author of the new book, The Enneagram in Love: A Roadmap for Building and Strengthening Romantic Relationships, and host of the Ask an Enneagram Coach podcast. Stephanie founded her Instagram page, @NineTypesCo, in 2017 as a way to explore her own interest in the Enneagram, and it has since grown into a community of people who are all learning about the Enneagram, themselves, and their relationships together. Stephanie specializes in bringing clarity to complex concepts and communicating the Enneagram in a way that is relatable and concise so that it can be transformative for all.

Topics we touch on:
Getting to know your motivation
Asking "why" and "what is it about this that had be react like this?"
Taking responsibility for your own feelings and reactions
Cyclical/spiralic growth of life and in process with the Enneagram
How the 45 different type pairings can help you know your type
How can you use the Enneagram as a parent?
Reparenting yourself with the "unconscious childhood message" and the "lost childhood message"
Common number pairings
Specific pairings that work well together
Energy level and type

The Wisdom of the Enneagram Types by Don Richards Riso
Understanding the Enneagram by Don Richards Riso and Russ Hudson
The Complete Enneagram by Beatrice Chestnut

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ep. #13
Coming back from hiatus, I take this episode to dive into motherhood, a topic I have worked with for many years, as a therapist, a RIE-trained facilitator and as a mother! Like many moms, I struggled with the "myth of perfection", especially the first couple years of being a mother. I thought, "If I can be perfect, maybe my baby wont experience pain, disappointment, fear, etc"
Shifting to a more relational style of parenting, when I found RIE, helped me see that the most important goal of motherhood is raising people who are prepared to be in healthy relationships.
I share more about which metaphors and resources I look to now for a model on how to be in balance and in respectful relationship with all beings.

I also announce a giveaway, very special and dear to my heart. Please head over to my Instagram to enter the give away, which closes on Thursday at 6pm Pacific/9pm Eastern

Resources mentioned in this episode:
Resources for Infant Educarers
Liz Memel was the teacher of our RIE classes
The Witch's Herbal Apothecary by Marysia Miernowska
Marysia's new offering School of the Sacred Wild
JLCreator on Instagram
Article about JL's work
Center for Babaylan Studies

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ep. #12
In this episode I share about where I have been for the past month, and why I am taking an extended break from producing the show. I'll be back Sept. 17th with new interviews and exciting content.
Until then, you can follow along with what I am up to over on Instagram

I mention episode #02 in this show. Click here to listen

Find out more about what I am working on at The Wild and Wise.com
Upcoming THERAPEUTIC ART PROCESS 
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ep. #11
My intro to this episode dives in a bit more than usual, into my thoughts on the work I am doing with this podcast and with my family, particularly regarding the learning process of how to practice anti-racism with every step I take. Here is the episode with Kaya Mindlin that I mention in the intro. Clarifying Non-attachment and Spiritual Bypass with Kaya Mindlin
This episode with Maude Davis (episode 11) doesn't directly bring in race, trauma and how therapy can support activism and anti-racism, it could be deeply effective and healing for that work. Much of what we talk about is the landscape of inner material that is longing to be healed. The grief and trauma we hold in our bodies is crying out to be felt and moved through.

I have personally found drama and expressive arts therapy to be the MOST impactful approach to healing life-long - no, generational patterns.

Maude Davis is working with therapy clients at the Living Arts Counseling Center in Oakland, Ca. She uses her training in Expressive Arts Therapy and Jungian Analysis as a "Therapy Director" in the workshops she does with Armond Volkis, called Autobiographical Therapeutic Performance. Maude has training and background in theater in New York City, where she worked for years as an actor, director and teacher. She is a PH.D candidate and has studied at the CG Jung Institute in Zurich.

Topics covered in this episode:

• Theoretical background of Maude's work
• Getting into the therapeutic work
• Being in relationship to our inner material
• Therapist revery
• The moment of change
• Activation of something very old within us
• Midwives for the psyche
• Entering the play space
• Processing through play (children and adults)
• The profound letting go
• The universal trickster
• Revolution coming, a play revolution
• At home drama therapy exercises you can do today

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Video of Darrrl McDadiels telling his story of making music inspired by Sarah McLachlan

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ep. #10
I am stepping aside this week to make space for other voices. Please take the time to click on the resources below. There are MANY Anti-racism educators out there. These links are a small handful of the powerful work that is available to you. Make the time to listen to these voices and see these faces.

Please remember:
Pay/compensate POC for their work, physical and emotional.
Buying gifts or sending love notes to the black people you care about is not a substitute for doing this work.
Take responsibility for your own education on the topic of racism and anti-racism in the US.

Layla Saad - Podcaster, activist and author of "Me and White Supremacy"

Ibram X. Kendi - Author of "How to be an Antiracist" and the upcoming book "Anitracist Baby"

Check out Kendi's "An Antiracist Reading List"

Books

(I have linked books to purchase from Black owned bookstores)

Tiffany Jewell - Educator and author of "This Book in Anti-Racist"

Walking With the Wind by John Lewis

The Autobiography of Malcom X As Told to Alex Haley

Freedom Is a Constant Struggle by Angela Davis

White Fragility by Robin Diangelo

Raising White Kids by Jennifer Harvey (on iTunes Audiobook)

Podcasts (links to iTunes)

1619

Pod Save the People

Good Ancestor Podcast

Sisters In Loss

Raising Kings Podcast

Hear Ye!

We Talk Different

Filipina on the Rise

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ep. #9
If you've dipped your toe in the waters of yogic practice or philosophy, and you have if you've ever even googled "mindfulness", this conversation will deepen and clarify some of the common mistranslations and misunderstandings of how to live our lives while also walking a spiritual path. We especially explore the ways being a parent can often feel "in the way" of our spiritual goals and practices. The difficult distance between our ideals and reality. Kaya speaks so beautifully to the gift we can give ourselves and our children when we practice and live our spiritual journey as family.

In this episode, I share about my own personal upbringing, raised in a yogic intentional community. Kaya also has a deep and meaningful relationship with this community, and we both hold so much love and respect for the teachings, the people and the beauty that is present there. While I do speak to some of my personal experiences and interpretations, I am sure they were unique to my own experience, my own family system and the projecting we as humans do onto others. So I ask you to hold what you hear with the awareness of both being true: reality and projection.

Things we touch on:

The misconceptions of practicing non-attachment
The absolute and the relative realities we exist in
Spiritual bypass
Splitting of life into spiritual life and the rest
The four stages of life
How not to sacrifice your spiritual life
Accepting or rejecting mental/emotional reactions
We can model our humanity for our kids
What family spiritual practice can look like
Clarifying karma yoga and selfless service
I do my work so you can do yours
Where to start

Kaya Mindlin is a Yoga therapist and educator who has been teaching the “softer side of yoga” for 19 years.
Learn more about Kaya's work at YogawithKaya.com

Kaya's Instagram

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Explore the most essential teachings for householders seeking true spiritual growth amidst the responsibilities of life.
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Episode 2 - Baba Yaga and Our Wild Woman Intuition

Episode 3 - Exploring Our Inner Knowing with Kadhi Bo

Episode 4 - Earth Magick and Regenerative Ways of Living with Marysia Miernowska

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ep. #8
A special Mother's Day episode with my own mother, Beth Pettengill Riley! Beth has been a movement teacher for over 40 years, has studied yogic spiritual practice as well as physical practice, is steeped in the work of Emilie Conrad, founder of Continuum Movement and has been leading her life with a drive for connection and presence for a long time. She has studied the research on somatic movement and healing, as well as worked with clients for 30 years, holding space for emotional and physical wounds to move toward health and healing.

In the episode we explore the field of health and healing through what our body is experiencing in this very moment:

-Genuine experience through our bodies

-When and how did movement influence Beth's experience of motherhood

-The threshold of a new kind of holding

-Psychological personality structure and embodied experience of presence

-Intelligence - to gather in between

-The path emerges as you sniff it

-Anesthetic and Esthetic - the antidote to numbing out

-What does it mean to listen to our body's communications about safety, support and connection?

-How can we live full in our current circumstances?

Beth leads group classes and workshops, sees clients Individually, has a apprenticeship program, has written a book about having a home movement practice and

Beth's website:The Moving Well

Apprentice with Beth

Beth's Book: A Moving Inquiry

International Somatic Movement Education and Therapy Association (Beth is board president)

Watermark Arts - "an arts movement inspired by somatic awareness"

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Episode 3 - Exploring Our Inner Knowing with Kadhi Bo

Episode 4 - Earth Magick and Regenerative Ways of Living with Marysia Miernowska

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ep. #7 Ashley is a deep well of wisdom, especially regarding how we, as adults, can show up with children in a good way. "In a good way" is meant that it is mutually supportive of healthy growth and development, feels in alignment with the kind of world we want to help create and holds in it the deep connection of and love between all beings.

We speak about entry points into transformation that show up so frequently when we are in relationship with children. We touch on the concept of relational commitment to this very moment. We also touch on:

• the power structures that often get played out through adult-child relationships
• opportunities for growth that don't always feel good
• generational transmission and transformation
• how to transform the rising pressure of a power struggle with your child
• what it means to have a prayer to be more loving

Ashley's website: www.wellspringnatureschool.com/

Ashley's Instagram: www.instagram.com/_ashnewton_

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Episode 3 - Exploring Our Inner Knowing with Kadhi Bo

Episode 4 - Earth Magick and Regenerative Ways of Living with Marysia Miernowska

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ep. #6
Michael is a Vedic Astrologer (Jyotish) living in the Pacific Northwest with his wife and children. He has studied Ayurvedic and Yogic lifestyle and theory in depth. He lives the wisdom in his own life and offers readings to client's seeking to view their own lives from a vast and ancient perspective.

I enjoyed speaking with Michael about these current times we are living through, and how many of the teachings from the Vedas can provide stability and containment during this uncertain transformation that is underway. I find it comforting to hear that this year's astrology has a lot of intensity in it. Many astrologers have been speaking of the "transformative" year coming in 2020.

The blending of many areas of study is something I deeply appreciate about Michael's approach to the process of looking at the impacts of the celestial bodies that surround us. He has trained for years and I have personally had readings with him. He is able to offer both general and very specific information.

Michael periodically writes articles/blog posts on his website regarding the current astrology, and I highly recommend reading his latest offering.

Michael's website: www.jyotishresolution.com

Schedule a reading with Michael HERE

My musings about this full moon here

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ep. #5 In this episode, Adrienne shares with us some of the nourishing outcomes of connecting and developing a relationship with our wise and loving ancestors. So many of us have either never been introduced to the practice of ancestral healing or have doubt and deeply colonial beliefs about that kind of direct contact.
Topics we touch on:

What it means to decolonize your mind

How having ancestral connections protect us during crisis

What practices help support our intuition

What can get in the way of trusting the communication

Adrienne has been supporting others through healing for over 10 years and has studied ancestral healing with a number of teachers. She weaves together modalities of depth psychology, embodied ritual & personal mythology, and relational attunement with the earth and the more-than-human realm. Adrienne works online with client's individually and in group setting from her home in New Mexico.

Adrienne's website: https://www.adriennesloan.com/
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ep. #4
Marysia Miernowska teaches herbalism through the Gaia School of Healing and regenerative land practices in California. She is the master herbalist and owner of Wild Love Apothecary and was named one of the "top 15 witches on Instagram" (@marysia_miernowska). As an herbalist, witch, biodynamic gardener, and Plant Spirit Medicine Practitioner, she is rooted in the Wise Woman Tradition of Healing. Marysia teaches and speaks at conferences internationally on herbal medicine, plant shamanism, regenerative farming practices, and Earth Magick.

Marysia has been busy over the past year - she released her book, The Witch's Herbal Apothecary in January 2020. I have the book and find it is a rich resource for recipes, rituals, and guidance in reconnecting with the power and healing of Earth Magick.
Marysia has also recently launched an amazing face serum, made from completely organic ingredients. You can find more info on that at Rituel.com or Rituel on Instagram.

Spring is approaching and Marysia has a sweet write up about wildcrafting or harvesting from the wild. Click here to check that out on her blog. Marysia also has a post on her blog about the Wise Women Tradition of healing (click here) and recommends further reading with The Chalice and the Blade by Raine Eisler.

Highlights from this episode:
Impacts of disconnection from and extraction of the earth
What leads to burn out and where does "death" belong
How to honor your teachers
The Wise Woman Tradition of Healing
Where to find sources of unconditional love
Heart-opening, nervine relaxant herbs and teas
Finding how to birth your own medicine
Growing practices for mutual healing of humans and the earth
Why not to pull weeds

If you enjoy this episode, I can't recommend Marysia's book highly enough. It dives into all of this so much more deeply and weaves in so much more!

Marysia's links:
Wild Love Apothecary
Instagram
Her Book: The Witch's Herbal Apothecary
Organic, clean face serum www.Rituel.com
Gaia School of Healing and Earth Education with Sage Maurer
Online course (for the first time ever) - A Year of Gaia

Book mentioned by Marysia on the three models of healing, including the Wise Woman Tradition:
Healing Wise by Susan Weed

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ep. #3 - A conversation with Kadhi Bo.
Kadhi and I sit down to have a conversation about inner knowing/intuition: what is sounds like, what it feels like to be disconnected from that part of ourselves, and how to find our way back. Kadhi offers intuitive counseling sessions incorporating tarot and astrology, and the many other areas she has studied (women's spirituality, the enneagram, depth psychology and more). She is also a mama and a perpetual student. She has an unwavering sense of herself, is honest, direct, kind and deeply accepting of others. 

Kadhi's website: www.kadhibo.com  

Kadhi on Instagram: www.instagram.com/tarotbykadhibo  

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ep. #2 Awakening our Wild Woman intuition is a vital and deep process for navigating our current and future world. For thousands of years, stories have reflected this awakening process through myth and fairy tale. Today I read for you one of my favorite tellings of the story of Vasilisa and Baba Yaga, from the book Women Who Run With The Wolves.
I also explore some of the metaphorical placements within the story, how they reflect psychological tasks of this process and give some examples from my own life.

You can find Women Who Run With The Wolves on Amazon
You can also check out some children's versions of this story:
Baba Yaga and The Wise Doll

Bony Legs

Baba Yaga and Vasilisa The Brave

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ep. #1
 What is this show aiming to do? Who is it aimed to resonate with? Who is Mallika and why is she doing a podcast?

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www.thewildandwise.com/podcast

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