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In the season finale of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning checks in with three of her guests from Season Three. Genea shares what to expect in her upcoming book and the seminars she plans to offer next year. Angie got bangs! And learned how to give fewer f*cks during the pandemic. Rachel discusses her move back to New York City and what she’s doing in her life to make feel more confident as well as set goals with a little bit more soul.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:02] Intro
• [09:41] Checking in with Genea
• [13:41] What it’s like in New York right now
• [18:43] Writing her life story
• [21:49] Checking in with Angie
• [27:14] Power in no margins
• [36:26] Six feet tall
• [37:56] Checking in with Rachel
• [42:49] Finding herself in NYC
• [47:54] A pause on new clients
• [52:40] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Self Made Podcast Competition
• Knock Knock podcast
• A conversation with Barbara Schroeder (minisode)
• Genea Barnes’ episode on Prickly and Blooming
• Genea’s story page with a video of her performance
• Genea’s upcoming seminars

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Laura speaks with host Jessie Browning about taking care of herself after her first panic attack. She shares how that moment forced her to address many different things including her mommy drinking and how a Facebook ad motivated her to scale it back. She also discusses why she’s at her best when she’s a working mom versus being a stay at home mom.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:01] Intro
• [02:44] Laura’s relationship to Texas
• [05:36] Meet Laura
• [06:34] Her first panic attack
• [11:15] Taking care of herself
• [17:19] Virtual therapy
• [19:50] Her drinking journey
• [26:48] Stay at home mom vs working mom
• [36:15] Taking care of her health
• [42:32] Her walk with the Lord
• [46:09] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [51:31] Contacting Laura

Resources Mentioned:

• Enneagram Type Seven
• This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol: Find Freedom, Rediscover Happiness & Change Your Life by Annie Grace
• Dark Night of the Soul

Standout Quotes:

• “If my cup gets a little low, I immediately feel it and I immediately know I need to do XYZ.” -Laura [17:08]
• “I stuck it in the garbage. I lifted up paper and stuck it in there so my husband wouldn’t see it. And that was the moment where I was like I’m hiding something from my husband. This feels dangerous.” -Laura [20:34]
• “I’m my best when I can pick my kids up from school and be 100% with them, and then send them to school and be 100% with my business....

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Diana speaks with host Jessie Browning about the moment she realized she was “going the wrong way.” As she was learning about diabetes during training, she discovered that she had seven of the nine risk factors for the disease. Diana shares how this moment made her reflect on the legacy she had inherited and question what kind of legacy she wanted to leave for her two children. Listen as she discusses how she worked through her emotional state through counseling which then helped her access her dream.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:01] Intro
• [07:34] Meet Diana
• [14:03] “I’m going the wrong way”
• [18:23] Masking pain
• [27:51] Food is her vice
• [34:25] Starting small
• [41:12] Counseling
• [43:49] How it affected her personal life
• [48:45] Her coaching business
• [52:52] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [59:19] Contacting Diana

Resources Mentioned:

• Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway by Susan Jeffers
• You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay
• Breaking Free by Diana Guintu
• September 11
• UGGs
• 2011 Lesson #2 : Don’t Carpe Diem by Glennon...

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jody speaks with host Jessie Browning about returning to her home state of Texas after living in California. She shares what she learned during her 17 years as a special education teacher in Pflugerville. She also discusses why she moved back to San Angelo in 1990 and opened her business, Jody Aesthetics.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:01] Intro
• [02:36] Meet Jody
• [10:47] Meeting her husband
• [13:11] Starting her beauty business
• [19:34] Offering an experience
• [22:02] Her art background
• [27:42] Her experience starting a business
• [33:08] What Texas means to her
• [38:22] How she met her husband
• [46:32] What teaching taught her
• [50:19] What brings her back everyday
• [55:56] Jessie’s birthday
• [58:01]Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [1:05:02] Contacting Jody

Resources Mentioned:

• Osmosis Beauty
• AskDrBen Podcast
• Kerrville Folk Festival
• The Secret Language of Birthdays by Gary Goldschneider

Standout Quotes:

• “These two hands made every penny that’s come through that door.” -Jody [18:27]
• “I don’t want that rush hurry stuff anymore.” -Jody [34:19]

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Jess Norman never thought she would get a divorce, but she found herself in a Wal-Mart parking lot telling her dad on the phone that she was getting one. Growing up in the church, she thought she would be disowned if she did, but that didn't happen.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jess speaks with host Jessie Browning about getting a divorcing her first husband. She also shares how she discusses and works through issues with her now-husband on their podcast, Moving On.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:04] Intro
• [01:05] Listener’s survey
• [03:08] Meet Jess Norman
• [12:41] Never thought she would get a divorce
• [15:52] Heading to Texas
• [22:34] Divorce at 32
• [27:14] That was it
• [30:34] A different love language
• [38:06] Alone for the first time
• [42:34] Top fears of her divorce
• [44:10] Jess' and Jay's endgame
• [48:27] Where Jess' life is now
• [56:42] Moving On podcast
• [1:01:48] Love for fears
• [1:04:01] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:12:21] Contacting Jess Norman
• [1:14:54] Outro

Standout Quotes:

• "I read this neat thing today that said ‘When we're waiting on God, God's usually waiting on us.' I thought that was really beautiful. So I'm positive that God was waiting on me for three years, not to get divorce, but to find my way, which way I was going...

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Kenna speaks with host Jessie Browning about going through two life-changing moments: the end of her first marriage and getting diagnosed with (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) ADHD. She talks about the events that led to her divorce, what she did to move on and how she met her now-husband. She shares what she’s learned through her ADHD diagnosis and how eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR) therapy has led her to process her trauma.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:01] Intro
• [06:37] What does a fox say?
• [08:44] Meet Kenna
• [10:36] The end of her first marriage
• [24:29] Nothing left and the aftermath
• [32:04] Moving on and dating
• [41:02] A fight with Mom
• [43:26] Back to the workforce
• [51:49] Diagnosed with ADHD
• [1:01:54] EMDR therapy
• [1:08:22] The craft beer industry and #MeToo
• [1:19:17] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [1:26:25] Contacting Kenna

Resources Mentioned:

• Canon IVY Mini Photo Printer
• Cool Hand Luke - Shaking The Bush, Boss
• Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead - I'm Right On Top Of That, Rose
• Ylvis - The Fox (what does the fox say?)
• Mercer Black on Prickly and Blooming
• Big Bend Brewing Company

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Karen speaks with host Jessie Browning about finding her joy. She talks about how she went from engineering and law to writing her books, including her most recent one, The Lightmaker's Manifesto: How to Work for Change without Losing Your Joy. Karen also shares how she came up with her definition of what it means to be an activist.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:01] Intro
• [00:57] Listener survey
• [03:38] Meet Karen
• [06:17] Baseball card stats
• [07:12] Her relationship with Texas
• [08:45] From engineering and law to writing
• [13:27] How she keeps her joy
• [18:43] When she decided
• [25:24] Journaling, sketching and photography
• [34:59] A different brain space
• [38:17] Defining activism
• [46:55] Finding joy when there’s sorrow
• [55:26] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [1:00:06] Contacting Karen

Resources Mentioned:

• The Lightmaker's Manifesto: How to Work for Change without Losing Your Joy by Karen Walrond
• Canon IVY Mini Photo Printer
• The...

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Maria speaks with host Jessie Browning about launching IssueVoter, a non-profit organization that provides everyone an equal voice in democracy by making civic engagement accessible, efficient and impactful. Maria talks about her political experience that led her to this. She also shares what it was like growing up in Austin compared to now.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:02] Intro
• [03:11] Listener survey
• [05:04] Meet Maria
• [07:04] Maria’s relationship to Texas
• [12:39] The plan after college
• [14:53] Her experience with the legislature
• [17:05] Working on a political campaign in Iowa
• [23:56] Leaving New York
• [27:24] IssueVoter
• [35:15] Moving back to Austin
• [44:16] What’s next with IssueVoter
• [51:35] Maria recommends to visit Austin
• [53:32] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [1:00:56] Contacting Maria

Resources Mentioned:

• How The Iowa Caucuses Work — And Why They're Important
• Enneagram
• El Cosmico
• NYC BigApps
• Big Top Candy Shop
• Monkey See Monkey Do
• Clark's Austin

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming Podcast, host Jessie Browning revisits her first episode to give an understanding of who she is and how she came to this project. At age 35, Jessie theoretically adored her life; she was a mama to four children and owned multiple businesses with her husband. But without an ability to cope or care for herself, an isolating darkness crept in. Through reckless self care, therapy, and lots of candor; Jessie found her joie again. She created Lajoie Society to embolden others to do the same. Each week, we will meet a woman who has an authentic story to share. Undoubtedly, Jessie will be sharing her big heart, unusual life, and countless theories with you along the way.

Episode Timeline:

• [03:26] Jessie shares about how she met her husband in My Space years ago
• [05:28] Having four children in a wild succession
• [06:44] Jessie talks about her passionate motivation to start this podcast
• [09:04] The meaning behind the names: Prickly and Blooming and Lajoie Society
• [10:02] The significance of the cactus to Jessie: thorns and flowers, joy and pain, all needs to be celebrated
• [11:22] Who are going to be guests on this podcast? “Regular” women that have something to share to help move, inspire and motivate other women
• [12:25] Jessie opens up about her story and the pain that lead to her joy
• [19:09] Facing shame and guilt, trying unsuccessfully to “forget about it”
• [20:15] Jessie promised herself she will never be drunk again
• [22:10] Jessie decided to take back her body, losing weight, exercising and not drinking that much
• [24:39] Yoga set Jessie’s heart on fire
• [28:06] Starting a food log and learning about the right nutrition choices
• [30:11] The moment Jessie decided to be a stay-at-home Mom
• [32:55] Jessie experiencing losing herself and questions her roles and identity
• [33:29] Drinking to cope was not suitable anymore

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Kim Kaupe speaks with host Jessie Browning about moving to Texas during the pandemic and the experience so far. She also talks about becoming an accidental entrepreneur and the importance of celebrating your accomplishments. Listen to why you should actively publish your accomplishments on Linkedin and stop waiting to be picked.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [10:32] Meet Kim
• [11:00] Moving to Austin
• [14:32] Remote working
• [16:10] Kim’s companies
• [22:27] An accidental entrepreneur
• [24:52] Celebrate your accomplishments
• [31:16] Using LinkedIn
• [39:39] Stop waiting to be picked
• [44:26] What happens when she has a crap day
• [46:43] Her experience in Texas
• [52:50] Coffee With Kim
• [56:59] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [1:05:37] Contacting Kim

Resources Mentioned:

• Shark Tank
• Texas Longhorns yells and cheers
• Boomerang Generation
• Kim's 5 Biggest LinkedIn Tips
• LinkedIn creators
• TikTok Creator Fund
• Instagram Creators

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In this minisode of Prickly and Blooming, Jessie is interviewed by Barbara Schroeder, creator of Netflix's Evil Genius and PodcastOne's Bad Bad Thing. Jessie was recently named one of the finalists for Podcast One’s SELF MADE Competition and has the chance to win a podcasting contract worth $100,000. Jessie shares the idea behind Prickly and Blooming while Barbara shares her thoughts on the podcast.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:02] Intro
• [04:47] The idea behind the podcast
• [08:48] Barbara’s thoughts on the podcast

Resources Mentioned:

• Bad Bad Thing - PodcastOne
• Aura app

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning speaks with Buck about living in a small town. Buck shares how she ended up in Texas and then in Marfa, where she runs a store and offers an artist residency. She talks about the importance of contributing and how she contributes through her position as city council member.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:08] Meet Buck
• [07:07] What does Texas mean to her
• [09:10] Moving to Texas and first impressions
• [11:37] Born on the web
• [15:21] How she ended up in Marfa
• [20:22] Wrong Marfa and Camp’s art
• [24:37] Getting involved with the art scene
• [27:09] Relationship to small town politics
• [31:17] Biggest contributor to her Texas pride
• [33:35] Small town’s big presence
• [38:36] Possibly El Paso
• [41:46] Jessie’s rapid fire questions
• [46:23] Contacting Buck

Resources Mentioned:

• bbGun
• Cobra Rock
• Convenience West BBQ

Standout Quotes:

• “I’d like to say that I was born on the web.” -Buck [12:55]
• “Our store is very artist driven.” -Buck [25:41]

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In the second episode of this two-part series, Maylee Willson continues her honest conversation about alcoholism with Prickly and Blooming host Jessie Browning. She talks about the events leading up to February 27, 2018 when she checked into a treatment center to detox. Maylee has been sober since February 28, 2018.

Listen to how she adjusted to life after treatment. She shares her experience attending her first AA meeting and how those meetings saved her life.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:24] Something's gotta change
• [06 35] The last selfie before getting sober
• [07:38] Word of the year: commitment
• [09:05] February 27, 2018
• [12:25] Going into treatment
• [14:23] Her first AA meeting
• [17:16] Brene Brown Book Club
• [18:15] "Rehab is gonna suck"
• [24:40] Family Day
• [26:16]Untamed by Glennon Doyle
• [29:19] Finding her sponsor
• [34:12] Adjusting to life after treatment
• [38:08] Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis
• [44:43] Word of 2020: community
• [46:47] Jessie's rapid fire questions

• [50:19] Contacting Maylee Willson

• [51:34] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Alcoholics Anonymous
• Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis
• I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Making the Journey from "What Will People Think?" to "I Am Enough" by Brené Brown
• Untamed by Glennon Doyle
• Serenity House
  Standout Quotes:
• "I think the more that we share our honest, real stories about what alcoholism looks like and who it affects, the more we can reach other people who are suffering and maybe affect them to step out of the storyline they've been living and try a new one." -Jessie Browning [01:23]
• "That was the first AA meeting that I've ever gone to and that was the first time that I ever said out loud ‘I am an alcoholic' and that was the first time in my life that I met people who knew what I felt like." -Maylee Willson [14:36]
• "Treatment got me sober. It gave me a safe space to get clean and it taught me a lot, but then AA has kept me that way. AA is really what has saved my life." -Maylee Willson [35:03]
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In this special minisode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning dives into some Texas history and talks about Barbara Jordan, the first African American elected to the Texas Senate since 1898 and the first Southern African-American woman elected to the United States House of Representatives.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [00:41] Barbara’s speech at Nixon’s impeachment hearings
• [02:01] About Barbara Jordan
• [06:25] Barbara and LBJ
• [07:02] A launch into the national spotlight
• [08:46] Retiring from political life
• [09:23] Her legacy

Resources Mentioned:

• Barbara Jordan: Speech on Impeachment
• How Barbara Jordan's 1974 Speech Marked a Turning Point in the Watergate Scandal
• Barbara Jordan
• Rep. Barbara Jordan 1976 Democratic National Convention Keynote Speech Transcript
• Black Texas Women: 150 Years of Trial and Triumph by Ruthe Winegarten, Janet G. Humphrey & Frieda Werden
• Bold Women in Texas History by Don Blevins

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Maylee Willson remembers the day she woke up in a bed at a detox center in Abilene, TX. It was February 28, 2018. She asked herself how did she get there? It became the start of a very honest conversation with herself that she never had before. In the first episode of a two-part series, Maylee talks with Prickly and Blooming host Jessie Browning about the origins of her alcoholism and how it started to affect her family with a young child.

Episode Timeline:

[00:03] Intro [03:44] The moment that changed Maylee Willson [05 30] What got here there? [09:02] The progression from her first drink [14:53] Hangxiety [17:10] Drinking starts affecting her life [23:51] An intervention [26:20] Moving back to Abilene [29:55] Going through recovery during pregnancy [36:01] Back to work [39:34] Mommy wine culture [42:41] Feeling empty Resources Mentioned:

Alcoholics Anonymous Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis Hangxiety Standout Quotes:

"There's this cycle that I was in and that I know that has happened to lots of other alcoholics is that you drink to ease this anxiety, but then the anxiety comes from the alcohol, so you're just constantly trying to find relief from something." -Maylee Willson [16:19] "Looking back on it, it's like I know that the action that I'm taking that is giving me this result, but I just couldn't realize you have to take that action out of your life." -Maylee Willson [21:06] "The number one reason that I want to do this and have this conversation with you is I just cannot live with myself knowing that there are other women out there who are going through what I had been through. I cannot let them do that without saying there is a way out of this. Whether you want to do it or not, there's hope and there are options." -Maylee Willson [42:01] Connect:

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The tables are turned in this episode of Prickly and Blooming, as Jessie Browning sits in the guest chair and is interviewed by Amanda, a podcast launch specialist, podcast coach and producer. Jessie talks about her new direction that focuses on Texas women on the show. She also shares what she’s learned through the podcast.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [05:44] Meet Amanda
• [07:49] Amanda takes the reins
• [08:25] The concept before the shift
• [11:03] Exploring what it means to be Texan
• [17:26] What planted to seed to shift the show focus
• [23:23] What makes Texan women so special
• [27:25] Honing the skill of podcasting
• [40:10] Jessie’s identity with Texas
• [47:40] How to Jessie grow and achieve this vision
• [53:37] Contacting Amanda

Resources Mentioned:

• Podcasting: How to Start a Podcast and Create a Profitable Podcasting Business by Amanda Mayo
• Barbara Jordan
• Prickly and Blooming article with Sterry Butcher
• Ann Richards
• Brené Brown

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning speaks with Sterry, a writer based in Marfa. Sterry talks about her writing career and how a letter to the editor got her a job at the local newspaper. She shares why the newspaper was special at that time and a few of her favorite memories. She then talks about her move to write for Texas Monthly, which she continues to do now.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [01:19] Growing up in Texas
• [07:59] A Thanksgiving trip to Far West Texas
• [10:28] So what was the plan?
• [11:59] A letter to the editor
• [16:36] Why The Big Bend Sentinel is special
• [27:10] Writing for Texas Monthly
• [33:58] Absorbing words
• [37:33] Full circle
• [39:46] Jessie’s rapid fire questions

Resources Mentioned:

• Chinati Foundation
• The Big Bend Sentinel
• Molly Ivins
• Randy and Evi Quaid in Marfa
• Jake Silverstein
• Sterry’s articles on Texas Monthly
• Snake! By...

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning speaks with Chelsea, a digital marketer and business strategist. Chelsea talks about moving from a small town in Texas to getting a fresh start in San Antonio after she called off her wedding. She also shares what inspired her to pursue her current career.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [01:16] Meet Chelsea
• [03:52] Where she grew up
• [07:58] Moving to San Antonio
• [11:58] Almost married and the pushback
• [19:02] Enjoying life and adventuring
• [23:30] Inspired to start a new profit
• [29:53] A new career path
• [37:11] Digital marketing and business strategy
• [41:38] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [50:05] Contacting Chelsea

Resources Mentioned:

• "Dilemma" by Nelly ft. Kelly Rowland
• Blessing, Texas
• Marfa, Texas
• "Friday Night Lights" TV show
• Wharton County Junior College
• We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle
• The San Antonio River Walk
• Big Bend National Park
• "Cars" movie
• Hotel Blessing coffee shop and restaurant

Standout Quotes:

• "Am I defining myself or is the surroundings and the thought defining me?" -Chelsea [13:24]
• "Coming from a small town like yes, it's great. Yes, we love it. Going back home is amazing, but there's just something about being able to pick up and move on your own out somewhere else." -Chelsea [23:15]
• "I need to fail in order to grow. And that's one of the biggest things that I've learned is that if I'm not failing, I'm not growing. And I want to grow. I want to become bigger and better than what I am today because that's just part of life. You have to grow." -Chelsea [36:53]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning speaks with Chelse, founder and owner of Smoky Mmmm-Eats, a vegan, plant-based food company. Chelse talks about how leaving Texas to move to New England helped her appreciate her Texas and Louisiana roots, and she also shares how she went from chemical engineering to starting her own business.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:10] About the Texas women series
• [04:46] Meet Chelse
• [06:04] The first time she left Texas
• [08:28] Studying chemical engineering
• [11:33] How the cities felt different
• [17:50] An appreciation of where she came from
• [21:16] Houston and Beaumont
• [23:58] Tacos, husband and Boston
• [30:42] Looked across the border in Rhode Island
• [33:22] No more meat
• [39:22] Creating her own vegan meat company
• [45:40] BBQ and Southern culture
• [50:06] Changing how vegan food is defined
• [51:26] Contacting Chelse
• [52:42] Jessie's rapid fire questions

Resources Mentioned:

• Pioneer Valley Transit Authority (PVTA)
• Drexel University
• King of the Hill
• Pledge of Allegiance to the Texas State Flag
• Prejean's
• Boston Harbor
• Earthlings
• Seitan
• Fakin' Bacon
• Hope & Main
• Jackfruit
• Salt Fat Acid Heat by Samin Nosrat

Standout Quotes:

• "I figured if I went to school in Texas, I thought I would never leave." -Chelse [09:25]
• "Vegan food doesn't have to be a sacrifice." -Chelse [43:55]
• "Food is a universal type of language. It transcends cultures, and I want vegan food to be able to do that as well." -Chelse [50:07]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning starts her new series featuring Texas women. She speaks with Lesley, a photographer based in Marfa. Lesley shares how she started in photography and the events that led to her eventual move to Texas. She also discusses how the COVID-19 pandemic affected her gallery and what she's currently doing now.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [01:05] A new idea
• [04:00] Meet Lesley
• [04:40] Lesley's relation to Texas
• [05:37] Where she's from and moving to Las Vegas
• [07:43] What she did for work in Las Vegas
• [08:45] Becoming a photographer
• [11:06] Meeting her husband and the market crash
• [13:53] Everything changed and moving to Marfa
• [18:51] Becoming a wedding photographer
• [24:12] Opening her studio and then COVID-19 hit
• [31:41] What she's up to these days
• [35:05] Lesley's identity as a Texas woman
• [38:38] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [43:32] Contacting Lesley
• [45:25] The Yelp series

Resources Mentioned:

• Asia DeVinyl
• The financial crisis of 2007–2008
• Marfa, Texas
• Austin City Limits (ACL) Music Festival
• Lesley's Hated on Yelp series
• Subpar Parks on Instagram
• Subpar Parks: America's Most Extraordinary National Parks and Their Least Impressed Visitors by Amber Share

Standout Quotes:

• "I really didn't ever want to work for anyone, and so I hustled. I mean, I hustled my whole life. I always found some way to have some job." -Lesley [07:49]
• "When something like that happens, you do start to question your life and your choices, and you realize that life is short. I mean, it's a real slap in the face.'" -Lesley [14:56]
• "I don't like it when people say, ‘Oh you got to get over it. You need to move on. You need to get over this.' I think that we have to move forward, whatever that is, and it's different.'" -Lesley [17:45]

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It was about 11 p.m. on January 17, 2020, when a sudden and devastating injury derailed everything in Kyle Hollingsworth's life. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Kyle shares more about this injury to host Jessie Browning and how she dealt with her new reality. She also talks about how the COVID-19 pandemic also upended things and also provided her the opportunity to launch her online art gallery.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:06] Meet Kyle Hollingsworth
• [05:29] A sudden devastating injury
• [14:49] The aftermath
• [21:31] Renaming herself Kyle
• [25:31] Sharing her story and manifesting
• [32:01] In a moment, it was over
• [36:31] Everyday, I have to choose myself
• [41:37] Choosing her ability to reframe
• [48:54] Feeling very content and at peace
• [49:29] Contacting Kyle Hollingsworth
• [50:13] Launching an online art gallery
• [51:45] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:00:48] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Radiant Rest: Yoga Nidra for Deep Relaxation and Awakened Clarity by Tracee Stanley
• Starbucks is running out of oat milk a month after adding it to menus nationwide

Standout Quotes:

• "When something devastating happens, it can just bring up all the old stuff and go, ‘Hey, see? Still hurts remember?'" -Kyle Hollingsworth [14:40]
• "I went through everything, like ‘Oh my God, I'm never going to kiss my husband the same way. I'm never going to be sexual in the same way. I'm never going to be able to sing the same way. Everybody's going to be looking at my mouth, like feeling sorry for me. I don't want that.' All these things. Just kind of brought it all up for me to look at and face, and I had a decision. I could either let it kill me or I could find a way to make friends with the truth." -Kyle Hollingsworth [17:27]
• "I got a new word recently, and it's not I don't understand. I overstand." -Kyle Hollingsworth [24:32]

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Bridget Barrett-Parker found out when she was 25 years old that she was pregnant. As she became a single mom, she grappled with what was happening, how she got there and how to move forward. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Bridget talks to host Jessie Browning about this experience and how parenting and becoming a Montessori teacher formed her business, Stable Bow Consulting, that she describes as helping parents CTFD ("calm the fuck down").

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:33] Meet Bridget Barrett-Parker
• [04:22] Becoming a single mom
• [06:11] Finding out she was pregnant
• [09:08] Returning to the states
• [14:33] The pandemic opened her eyes
• [20:54] Being home with her children
• [29:10] Starting Stable Bow Consulting
• [34:38] The mindset is the most important piece
• [42:24] A learned helplessness
• [47:09] What she does with her consulting business
• [52:19] Contacting Bridget Barrett-Parker
• [52:56] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [57:34] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Montessori education
• Aaron Carter
• Go, Dog. Go! by P. D. Eastman
• Kahlil Gibran
• On Children by Kahlil Gibran
• Codependent No More: How to Stop Controlling Others and Start Caring for Yourself by Melody Beattie

Standout Quotes:

• "For the next 10 years, just kind of buckling down, diving into my role as montessori teacher and learning as much as I could, committing fully, and then stepping away and saying, ‘You know what, my family needs me right now. I'm home. I'm dedicated to what I'm doing,' and just realizing again like ,'Wow, I really don't like being a stay-at-home mom.'" -Bridget Barrett-Parker [04:11]
• "COVID brought up so much in this beautiful opportunity that I don't think that we necessarily get, you know, when the bus is running full steam, but it's also really painful. It's really painful to step back and to pause and to question, to constantly question yourself as exhausting." -Bridget Barrett-Parker [17:52]
• "Having that experience earlier in life of going through, again what felt like rock bottom, gives you the perspective and the space to say ‘Pause, I've done hard things before and I can do hard things again, and this won't last forever.'" -Bridget Barrett-Parker [21:42]

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Karen Treiger didn't know the family she was marrying into when she married her husband 36 years ago, but after she learned that his family is a holoucast family, she decided to write their story. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Karen talks to host Jessie Browning about writing her book that was published in 2018. She shares how she investigated her husband's family history and what she hopes people take away from the book. She also talks about how she practices gratitude through her podcast, Gratitude in a Minute.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:12] Meet Karen Treiger
• [06:29] Writing her in-laws story
• [11:57] Leaving her practice
• [16:41] The roll out
• [19:36] Investigating the story
• [26:47] A big shift in her approach to life
• [31:49] How she practices her gratitudes
• [36:47] What happens when she's done
• [38:53] Three takeaways from the book
• [41:12] The second part of the book
• [42:22] What's next?
• [43:59] Karen's final thoughts
• [47:54] Contacting Karen Treiger
• [50:01] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• My Soul is Filled with Joy: A Holocaust Story by Karen Treiger
• Gratitude in a Minute podcast
• What's Your Story? A Journal for Everyday Evolution by Lily Diamond and Rebecca Walker
• PNWA Nancy Pearl Books Award
• 2019 Independent Publisher Book Awards

Standout Quotes:

• "And just something about saying the words of what I want to do brings it out into the world and makes it real." -Karen Treiger [10:44]
• "You just start with what you know. Start with what you have." -Karen Treiger [17:11]
• "I always tell people, we all have a family, and what is the story of your family?" -Karen Treiger [40:01]

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In this special episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning chats with past guests Jess Norman and Jess Peters in a completely off-topic conversation. Jess Peters talks about the game, Milk Flip Cup, that she hosts on Instagram Live. Jess Norman talks about her addiction to monograms and all three share stories about meeting actors and musicians.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:44] Let's start with Sherri
• [10:56] Meet Jess, Jess and Jessie
• [14:49] Why they're together today
• [17:10] More on Jess Norman
• [21:23] More on Jess Peters and Milk Flip Cup
• [32:32] More on Jessie Browning
• [38:14] "My face hurts"
• [46:27] Jess Norman's addiction to monograms
• [54:26] A very goofy story
• [1:01:10] The ultimate get
• [1:01:54] Meeting Kevin Bacon, Keith Urban and Corb Lund
• [1:13:42] Final thoughts
• [1:18:45] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Jess Norman's episode on Prickly and Blooming
• Jess Peters' episode on Prickly and Blooming
• Sherri Pauls' episode on Prickly and Blooming
• New Girl
• Milk Flip Cup on Instagram
• Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby
• John Stamos
• Kevin Bacon
• Keith Urban
• Corb Lund

Standout Quotes:

• "I'm the one we see go through extensive therapy sessions so I can pass on really great nuggets to each of you." -Jess Norman [18:15]
• "Ok, we're setting that right now. The ultimate get. We're setting it from the very beginning. Ultimate get: John Stamos." -Jessie Browning [1:01:36]
• "I feel like life is all about the stories, man. Write a good story." -Jess Peters [1:12:48]

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Before Rachel Beider walked into her shift as a cocktail waitress, she was feeling tired. She tried to shake it off and tell herself it'd be fine, but 15 minutes in, 50 drunk Santas walked in for another round of drinks. Rachel looked around the room, burst into tears, and took a moment in the bathroom before she walked back out and quit.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Rachel talks to host Jessie Browning about finding herself through multiple entrepreneurships. She talks about starting her massage business which grew to multiple locations in New York and how it was affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. She also shares how she started Wellness Business Consulting, where she works with multipassionate entrepreneurs to create fulfilling businesses by diversifying their income streams under one umbrella brand.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:12] Meet Rachel Beider
• [06:38] 50 drunk Santas walk into a bar
• [09:53] The move to New York City
• [15:39] A missed connection and India
• [19:40] Massage classes in Thailand
• [23:52] There's more than college
• [27:48] Starting her own practice
• [33:48] Slow and cautious
• [36:17] Hands off the wheel
• [41:46] Her personal life
• [47:36] COVID happens
• [52:45] Moving to Virginia
• [54:23] Reopening during the pandemic
• [58:55] A new side hustle
• [1:06:24] Contacting Rachel Beider
• [1:06:41] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:13:58] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Massage MBA: Run Your Practice, Love Your Life by Rachel Beider
• Samantha Heuwagen's episode on Prickly and Blooming
• Kasia Urbaniak
• The Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan
• SantaCon
• Profit First: Transform Your Business from a Cash-Eating Monster to a Money-Making Machine by Mike Michalowicz
• The Money Book for the Young, Fabulous & Broke by Suze Orman
• Spelling Bee
• To Be Honest by Michael Leviton
• Becoming by Michelle Obama
• The Book of Beautiful Questions: The Powerful Questions That Will Help You Decide, Create, Connect, and Lead by Warren Berger
• The Art of Possibility by Benjamin Zander and Rosamund Stone Zander

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In this last episode of Prickly and Blooming Season 3, host Jessie Browning checks in with some of her guests from Season 2.

Listen as Jess Norman shares how her ex-husband and husband came together and decided to move forward. Ali talks about her new Instagram Live series called Uncomfortable Truths, and Cindy Villanueva talks about her new book. Hannah Bauman talks about getting married, her new home and how she's patiently waiting to go on her honeymoon. Samantha Heuwagen previews her next book that comes out in August, and Tricia Brooks talks about overcoming depression.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:31] Checking in with Jess Norman
• [10:48] Where is our Texas weather?
• [13:50] A meeting between her husband & ex-husband
• [28:21] Forgiving and letting go
• [33:30] Checking in with Ali Holder
• [37:25] Where everyone is landing with live music
• [41:05] An Intensive outpatient program
• [44:44] Uncomfortable Truths
• [46:52] Checking in with Cindy Villanueva
• [53:23] The companion journal
• [57:44] Checking in with Hannah Bauman
• [1:01:12] Finally, a honeymoon
• [1:02:44] Buying her first home
• [1:05:45] Hannah's biggest change since COVID-19
• [1:09:59] Checking in with Samantha Heuwagen
• [1:15:42] Her thriving practice
• [1:21:42] So much leopard print
• [1:26:14] Checking in with Tricia Brooks
• [1:32:14] Her 30th birthday
• [1:40:48] Work into identity
• [1:47:21] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Jess Norman's Prickly and Blooming episode
• Video of Jessie falling on Instagram
• Ali Holder's Prickly and Blooming episode
• Orangetheory Fitness
• Ali Holder on Instagram
• "Uncomfortable Truths" album
• Cindy Villanueva's Prickly and Blooming episode
• Don't Fight Mad: A Black Belt's Quest to Recapture Joy by Cindy Villanueva
• Don't Fight Mad: A Companion Journal by Cindy Villanueva
• Hannah Bauman's Prickly and Blooming episode
• Samantha Heuwagen's Prickly and Blooming episode
• In the Wake of Stars by Samantha Heuwagen
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Arhynn Descy had been a piano teacher for 20 years until she realized that she hated it. She didn't hate her students, just the teaching. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Arhynn talks to host Jessie Browning about pursuing her passion to become a film composer and the experiences that motivated her, including a divorce.

Episode Timeline:

• • [00:03] Intro
  • [05:38] Meet Arhynn Descy

• [06:33] Not a teacher

• [12:43] Her music background

• [19:12] Bored and out of creativity
• [23:16] Pursuing composition and a divorce
• [29:34] They don't always look like opportunities
• [38:06] Working in the industry
• [41:28] Working during the pandemic and the future
• [45:02] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [51:10] Contacting Arhynn Descy
• [52:44] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Murder in Plain Sight by Marta Perry
• The Listening Path: The Creative Art of Attention (A 6-Week Artist's Way Program) by Julia Cameron

Standout Quotes:

• "At some level, I knew that's where I was heading." -Arhynn Descy [22:30]
• "You don't know where opportunities come from, and they don't always look like opportunities." -Arhynn Descy [37:40]
• "People are scared of the unknown, and if you're going to do anything really exciting, there's unknown attached." -Arhynn Descy [40:34]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Tracy Clarks talks to host Jessie Browning about the trauma she experienced since the day she was born. She was born with multiple health issues, and she was kidnapped at a young age. She shares how she processed these experiences and how it led her to her new work as a high performance energy coach.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:50] Meet Tracy Clark
• [05:06] "Your body's failing"
• [07:47] Born into trauma
• [10:51] Kidnapped
• [18:25] Another physical trauma
• [20:47] An allergy test
• [27:03] Little wins
• [32:18] Processing and imprinting
• [41:23] Going through the darkness
• [44:36] Her work as an energetic coach
• [50:44] Don't give away your power
• [53:08] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:03:05] Contacting Tracy Clark
• [1:05:08] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Activate Your Vagus Nerve: Unleash Your Body's Natural Ability to Heal by Dr. Navaz Habib
• Staples Easy Button

Standout Quotes:

• "When I look back, I'm like, ‘There was a lot of people that showed up at the right time.'" -Tracy Clark [23:37]
• "People get sick because of all those emotions. And then I realized why I was getting sick, because I had so many emotions and they didn't have anywhere to go." -Tracy Clark [33:33]
• "Everything started to fall into place, and it doesn't mean that I don't have a bad day. I'm human. It doesn't mean that challenges don't come up, but where those challenges in my life or an illness or something was year after year after year, it's a day or a week, it's over. Very big difference." -Tracy Clark [44:12]

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Sharon Harrington had a charmed life with her two kids, husband and beautiful home, but in 2016, her husband's health started to rapidly decline. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Sharon talks to host Jessie Browning about how her husband's diagnosis changed her world and how she pushed through the fog after his death in 2019.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:46] Meet Sharon Harrington
• [04:53] The entire world changed
• [09:21] Life before the diagnosis
• [13:48] How she kept going
• [17:58] Lifting the fog
• [26:37] Doing things for herself
• [29:47] Exit on the highway
• [34:56] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [39:59] Contacting Sharon Harrington
• [41:26] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Alzheimer's Association
• Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth

Standout Quotes:

• "I think that's what happens to people. You just do what you need to do." -Sharon Harrington [15:36]
• "So I think that's really what pulled me through is meeting just special people along the way that I would not have met if I didn't go on this journey." -Sharon Harrington [22:33]
• "The challenge for me is living now. Living in the moment now." -Sharon Harrington [32:49]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jill Gulotta chats with host Jessie Browning about going through a divorce and what she did to reconnect with herself again. She shares how this experience helped her discover her passion to help women feel the best versions of themselves and guide them through this challenging time.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:34] Meet Jill Gulotta
• [08:07] Four years of lies
• [15:52] "I can't do this"
• [17:05] Acceptance to start the change
• [19:03] Reconnecting to herself again
• [23:00] How it changed her career
• [27:20] The hardest part
• [31:35] Helping women through divorce
• [36:56] The reclaim method
• [46:16] "I am so happy"
• [47:05] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [52:18] Contacting Jill Gulotta
• [53:18] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Rachel Hollis
• Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey
• You Are a Badass: How to Stop Doubting Your Greatness and Start Living an Awesome Life by Jen Sincero

Standout Quotes:

• "But I think it goes to show that we tell ourselves stories that stop us from doing things we actually can do. I think when there's a will, there's a way. Like you can make it happen." -Jill Gulotta [07:56]
• "Journaling to me is like life-changing. It's so impactful and so I started journaling as a way to process through the emotions that were coming up." -Jill Gulotta [20:14]
• "When there's that relatability, there's so much more impact in helping people." -Jill Gulotta [32:32]

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Jamie Elizabeth Metzgar was on a work trip when she received a phone call. Her husband, Bill, had suddenly died. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jamie chats with host Jessie Browning about finding herself again after the loss of her husband and her dog. She shares how she found her soft landing and started her career as a grief coach. Listen to why you should just show up for those grieving.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:34] Meet Jamie Elizabeth Metzgar
• [05:00] A brutal loss
• [11:40] Coping through work
• [14:36] That's when it all hit
• [19:49] Her support system
• [20:46] Her soft landing
• [25:26] Getting into grief coaching
• [32:41] Just show up
• [39:25] Is love such a small commodity?
• [43:56] Her professional life now
• [47:07] Open up your ears and listen
• [47:45] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [50:54] Contacting Jamie Elizabeth Metzgar
• [51:49] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Salt & Ash & Honey & Magic by Jamie Elizabeth Metzgar
• On Grief and Grieving: Finding the Meaning of Grief Through the Five Stages of Loss by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and David Kessler
• Wanderful
• Sharing Solace
• Paper: Paging Through History by Mark Kurlansky
• The Italian Party: A Novel by Christina Lynch

Standout Quotes:

• "It forced me to rethink everything. Everything I thought my life would be was gone." -Jamie Metzgar [17:13]
• "Travel's a thing with me, especially when I'm feeling so lost, because it forces my attention. It forces me out of myself. It forces me to focus on communicating in other languages. It's a really grounding point to me. And it also bizarrely as huge as loss is, it puts it all in context of I'm just a tiny drop in this world. Everybody around me, all these nameless people have experienced something awful." -Jamie Metzgar [24:48]
• "Just ask. Don't assume you know anything. Don't assume you know the griever's faith, because even if the person has been very devout to something, grief will shake you." -Jamie Metzgar [36:38]

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Alison Mountford was working at her sales job when she googled "What do I do with my life?" And Google delivered. Alison came across an article listing the top 10 fastest small businesses, which included personal chef service. She then called her dad and told him she was quitting her job to study at a culinary school. He said ok.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Alison Mountford chats with host Jessie Browning about her career in the food industry from becoming a personal chef to opening her own brick and mortar. She also shares how she became passionate about food waste and starting her own business, Ends & Stems that stops people from wasting food at home.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [06:11] Meet Alison Mountford
• [08:17] Google delivered
• [13:33] Her prescribed life
• [20:09] Choosing a major
• [22:33] Living in the West Coast
• [26:17] Trusting your knowing
• [35:45] Becoming a personal chef
• [40:48] How will I deal with this excess?
• [50:07] Starting Ends & Stems
• [1:03:34] What Ends & Stems looks now
• [1:12:27] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:18:28] Contacting Alison Mountford
• [1:19:17] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Schitt's Creek
• In the Dream House: A Memoir by Carmen Maria Machado
• What Color Is Your Parachute? by Richard Nelson Bolles
• Glennon Doyle
• The Glass Hotel by Emily St. John Mandel

Standout Quotes:

• "If I say I'm bored, they know that something is coming." -Alison Mountford [06:57]
• "I got obsessed with the idea of my next step being the first step of the rest of my life in a way." -Alison Mountford [25:56]
• "It's surprising that a lot of men in business would say to me, ‘Oh, you can't have this business if you have a baby.' That would be always the common, and it's not what happened. What happened was I got a break. Once I had my daughter, there was actually some space and a new way of being, new things that needed my attention. And I no longer wanted to keep plotting along because that was the path I had set myself on, and it was the moment that actually let me look at the bigger picture of my life and say, ‘I don't want to feel like this anymore. I don't want to work all day everyday anymore.'" -Alison Mountford [45:39]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Mimi Clark chats with host Jessie Browning about being adopted and meeting her birth mother in Korea. She describes how it felt to connect with her culture and how she's integrating it into her home. She also talks about what it's like for her to live in the U.S. as an Asian American with the increased violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders (AAPI) and after the death of six Asian women and two others in a series of mass shootings on March 16 in Atlanta, Georgia.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:37] Meet Mimi Clark
• [04:48] How Mimi and Jessie met
• [07:00] What it feels like being Asian now
• [13:39] Realizing when she was different in her family
• [14:37] Going to Korea
• [21:37] Having her son
• [25:12] How she feels about her mom's choice
• [27:44] Open vs closed adoption
• [31:25] Bringing her culture into her home
• [33:24] How has the last year affected her
• [41:34] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [51:39] Contacting Mimi Clark
• [54:18] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Me & Korea
• Are You My Mother? by P. D. Eastman
• Family Secrets podcast
• The Prayer of Jabez: Breaking Through to the Blessed Life by Bruce Wilkinson
• Crazy Rich Asians Trilogy

Standout Quotes:

• "But the first time I went back over to Korea was almost like I was home. I had never felt like that before in my life. To walk around in a place where people don't say like, ‘Oh, well she looks different.' It's like no one thinks any different because everyone looks the same." -Mimi Clark [18:04]
• "I can certainly sympathize with what she went through. And I'm not angry about any of it, because I wouldn't be… my life wouldn't be what it is today had she not have so." -Mimi Clark [26:27]
• "Growing up, I never saw anything Korean that I could relate to. It was all white. And so I try to do more things that my kids look like the people who represent them. I think that's important." -Mimi Clark [32:33]

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Angie Sparks asked herself, "what is the top?" Meaning, what is success to her? Through her life experiences, she realized that it's stability, safety, and character. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Angie chats with host Jessie Browning about opening herself up to her inner knowing. She talks about the experiences from getting a divorce to speaking up against unsafe work conditions that helped her see the red flags and pay attention to what her body is trying to say. Listen as she shares how she uses music and other ways to cope.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:18] Meet Angie Sparks
• [06:05] A divorce
• [10:01] Becoming an individual in Hawaii
• [21:07] Snow blindness
• [26:57] Paying attention to her inner knowing
• [29:00] Her coping mechanisms
• [34:01] Working in mental health and identifying friends
• [38:15] Just when she thought it was safe to go into the water
• [52:44] Still feels like she's paying for her resume
• [59:03] Waiting space
• [1:07:22] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:30:01] Contacting Angie Sparks
• [1:30:40] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• The Practice of the Wild by Gary Snyder
• Recollections of My Nonexistence: A Memoir by Rebecca Solnit
• "I'm not a cat" meme

Standout Quotes:

• "It also really helped me identify a friend is someone I don't have to explain things to." - Angie Sparks [36:43]
• "It was a hard thing for me to accept because I was a person that came from poverty. I was a person that came from trauma that this elixir that I was bringing back to my home that I'm like here, I can help you. I can come and help you is just totally upended and I don't have the power, because I'm a female in a space working to gain acknowledgement, financial… Just to gain approval from the people who have power." - Angie Sparks [54:33]
• "I feel like for me, waiting space is the majority of my time." - Angie Sparks [59:02]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Genea Barnes talks to host Jessie Browning about working through her childhood trauma and how it played into her adulthood. Listen as she explains how she learned to heal her triggers and when she noticed things started to change. She also shares why she started studying hypnotherapy and neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and became an elevation guide that helps people transform their self-sabotage.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:24] Meet Genea Barnes
• [05:10] "I can't fix it anymore"
• [11:18] Her friend Carl
• [21:58] Photographing ghost bikes
• [26:57] The move to New York
• [34:36] When things starting to change
• [42:54] Studying hypnotherapy and NLP
• [45:57] Neuro-linguistic programming
• [47:03] Using these techniques while bartending
• [48:41] Her process and services she offers
• [53:54] Be good to yourself
• [56:51] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:11:13] Contacting Genea Barnes
• [1:13:51] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Don't Forget Me: Ghost Bikes Photographs by Genea Barnes
• The Michelle Obama Podcast featuring Craig & Marian Robinso‪n
• Principles by Ray Dalio
• Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey

Standout Quotes:

• "When our emotions are heightened, our perception of reality is often not clear." -Genea Barnes [13:59]
• "Our mind wants to relive it so that we can change the outcome, so that the memories can process and go into long-term memory, and basically be healed of your trauma." -Genea Barnes [20:26]
• "That's the huge thing, because we always think that moments like trying to do everything right, trying to be perfect, all of that stuff, it's about control. We think that we have more control if we do all of those things, but this moment showed me so clearly that we have so much more control when we don't do any of that." -Genea Barnes [36:48]

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Carly Adams was chatting with her husband during work one day about the next trip they wanted to take. Did they want to go to Europe or embark on a cross country road trip? One joked that they could quit their jobs and go on both trips, but as the days went on, the idea of quitting became a more serious discussion.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Carly talks to host Jessie Browning about how quitting her job to travel set her on a new career and life path. She discusses how she started her business, Tidy Revival, and the obstacles she had to overcome with herself to pursue it.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [06:46] Meet Carly Adams
• [07:28] "Maybe we could quit our jobs"
• [10:43] You Are a Badass
• [13:08] The Peter Pan lifestyle
• [18:01] Made a plan and went for it
• [25:25] Wanting to work for herself
• [30:17] A space of their own
• [33:10] Becoming a professional organizer
• [41:03] Overwhelmed's on you
• [43:48] Settling into a new life
• [52:13] Admitting the vision
• [58:56] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:11:20] Contacting Carly Adams
• [1:12:24] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• You Are a Badass: How to Stop Doubting Your Greatness and Start Living an Awesome Life by Jen Sincero
• Minimalism: A Documentary About the Important Things
• Business Boutique - Dave Ramsey
• Season of the Witch: Enchantment, Terror, and Deliverance in the City of Love by David Talbot

Standout Quotes:

• "Clutter causes stress." -Carly Adams [29:37]
• "I'm going to literally do my best to pour my heart and my love into what I do and what I say. I'm going to do my best to be a good person and not an asshole. That is all I can do." -Carly Adams [38:11]
• "There's always reasons why you can't do it, but there's always going to be a lot of reasons why if you don't do it, you might regret it." -Carly Adams [58:07]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning engages with Natalie Munoz in a little improv storytelling where they build a world based on a single photo. They set the scene and produce backstories for everyone. Before they start, they first share how they met and developed a friendship during the COVID-19 pandemic. They also explain what inspired today's imaginative exercise.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [09:16] How Jessie and Natalie met
• [13:02] Their first solo date and their families meet
• [18:24] Meet Natalie Munoz
• [22:28] What she's learned leaving Nebraska
• [26:51] The Swansons
• [56:42] Midge
• [1:07:36] An European trip
• [1:26:59] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:39:35] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Marco Polo app
• T9 texting
• Brené Brown
• Fear of Flying by Erica Jong
• My Girl
• Travels with Charley: In Search of America by John Steinbeck
• East of Eden by John Steinbeck

Standout Quotes:

• "I think it's interesting… when small talk exhausts you, but big talk is invigorating." -Jessie Browning [14:23]
• "I like to throw karaoke parties with my friends, and that's probably one of my greatest joys. I want to delve into that some day and figure out why that is. I think it's because I like to see people get vulnerable. " -Natalie Munoz [19:21]
• "We do not bring people down. We don't point out flaws. We're all about lifting and boosting women, like putting the crown on women, so when we say that we build words and build backstories about people, it's not in a cutting people down sort of way. Like that's not our style." -Natalie Munoz [28:25]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Melanie Hersch talks to host Jessie Browning about starting her business working with single people who struggle with dating and relationships. She discusses four life-changing moments in her life from dropping out of college to seeing a spiritual counselor that directed her towards this career. Listen as she suggests why you should allow yourself to have a season and why you should invite your anxiety for coffee.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [05:44] Meet Melanie Hersch
• [07:00] Four life-changing moments
• [16:48] Studying therapy
• [20:11] A constant reminder
• [23:41] "I am my source"
• [29:05] Allowed yourself to have a season
• [34:21] Love and compassion
• [39:55] Hustling for worthiness
• [41:38] Going out on her own
• [48:42] Age range of her clients
• [49:43] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [57:24] Contacting Melanie Hersch
• [58:55] Outro

Resources Mentioned:

• Prescott College
• Brene Brown
• Rachel Hollis

Standout Quotes:

• "Rock bottom moments are kind of… they're so great. They suck in the moment and it's like the worst thing you can feel, but without them, we don't grow. I don't say we don't grow, it's a lot more challenging to grow without that push." -Melanie Hersch [16:24]
• "For me, the best version is when you're being fully authentic. You're whole self. You're truly authentic whether that upsets people or not, and you're just standing in your own worth. Then whatever comes from there is, that's the golden nugget." -Melanie Hersch [28:38]
• "Instead of trying to push the anxiety away, invite it to the table to have tea with you. Like bring it in. Like come on, let's have a cup of tea and let's talk about what's going on right now, little one, and really be able to work with it. That's the only way through it, you know." -Melanie Hersch [36:39]

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Jess Peters took a look around while she was working on a dairy farm in New Zealand. She saw the nearby ocean and the mountains and thought to herself that it was the most beautiful place. Then she took a deep breath and thought that she was ready to go home.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jess talks to host Jessie Browning about working on the dairy farm in New Zealand before she returned to her family's farm in Pennsylvania. She also shares why she started speaking openly about her mental health and how it has helped her and others in the agriculture industry. Listen as she describes her Secrets of Ag project that provides a safe space for people to release their secrets, frustrations and fears.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [08:46] Meet Jess Peters
• [11:12] Ready to go home
• [17:02] Mental health in agriculture
• [25:03] Processing mental health before social media
• [32:15] What affects her mental health
• [40:15] Working on her family's dairy farm
• [44:36] What surprised her about sharing her mental health
• [49:19] Secrets of Ag
• [57:31] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:08:57] Contacting Jess Peters
• [1:10:56] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Farm Nursery Songs by Jessica Peters * Jess Norman's episode on Prickly and Blooming * Dear struggling farmer * Brené Brown * Rachel Hollis * PostSecret * Sin-eater * The Green Mile * The Mental Illness Happy Hour * What Should Danny Do? (The Power to Choose Series) by Adir Levy

Standout Quotes: * "I'm kind of naive in thinking that if things that I know, everyone knows and they just decided it wasn't good enough to write or type or put out there. And that's not true. The truth is they're either not brave enough to do it or they don't have the words to do it, I think." -Jess Peters [21:06] * "When it comes to mental health, if you can help one person, it is way more than worth it. ‘Cause that could have saved that person's life." -Jess Peters [24:41] * "I very much believe that you do it when you're ready to do it. It's almost like being an addict. You can't get help until you're ready to accept help." -Jess Peters [47:29]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, April Kling Meyer talks to host Jessie Browning about her search for a new career path after her fabric shop closed in Austin. She initially thought she found her dream job working for another company, but she realized through therapy that she needed a change. April shares how her and her husband came to the decision to move abroad to Ireland and why she decided to study spiritual leadership.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [05:31] Meet April Kling Meyer
• [07:13] Owning a business to a dream job
• [13:38] The big wake up call
• [17:41] A potential middle ground
• [21:29] "Let's just live abroad"
• [35:38] Spiritual leadership training
• [39:03] Making it happen
• [44:20] Job on hold due to COVID-19
• [47:00] Finding her spiritual path
• [56:20] Studying other religions
• [58:29] The peace process
• [1:00:09] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:10:09] Contacting April Kling Meyer
• [1:13:12] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * "Pay close attention…" meme * Brexit * Creative Alchemy * Tiny Fan Woodshop * Churches of Christ * Nadia Bolz-Weber * OneSpirit Interfaith Foundation * International Peace Studies at Trinity College Dublin * The Michelle Obama Podcast featuring her mom and brother * One River, Many Wells by Matthew Fox * The Luminous Web: Essays on Science and Religion by Barbara Brown Taylor

Standout Quotes: * "And I would walk 500 more but I'm tired." -April Kling Meyer [29:11] * "You know, COVID is one of those things where it's horrible and everybody hates it, but everybody who found a silver lining found a pretty good silver lining, and that's an enormous privilege. It's an enormous blessing. It's not something everybody had access to, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that privilege plays a huge role in being able to find silver linings in such a global headache." -April Kling Meyer [45:04] * "If we could just understand our own indigenous cultures and the way that they involve creativity and their spirituality to the point where they are one in the same,...

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning talks to her longtime friend, Mercer Black. Mercer is a writer who is known for sharing her life experiences dubbed as "Mercer stories." She shares a few of these stories, what inspired her love of storytelling and what she is currently writing about.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [08:41] How Jessie and Mercer became friends
• [14:30] Mercer stories
• [17:09] Why she tells stories
• [24:09] Meeting Steve Guttenberg
• [29:48] The Bambi effect
• [32:41] Her parents
• [37:38] Helping a man who was electrocuted
• [43:15] Trying to find a rave
• [51:55] Padre Island for Spring Break and other travel stories
• [1:02:02] "Write it down, Mercer"
• [1:08:58] Dad breaks her shoulder
• [1:14:47] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:25:33] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor

Standout Quotes: * "Having a good story comes down to having a poor lack of boundaries." -Mercer Black [32:15] * "There's just such a deeper knowing of you when you know people's parents." -Jessie Browning [33:23] * "Everyday I get to work on telling a story is a good day." -Mercer Black [1:08:45]

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Ellen Leonard was practicing yoga in an unused waiting room when she asked herself how did people manage to take care of their loved ones during a difficult situation. Even though she had health and medical resources available to her, she barely kept it together as her mom went through cancer.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Ellen talks to host Jessie Browning about how she coped with her mom's diagnosis and how that experience changed her approach on life. She also talks about her career as a health coach and Ayurvedic practitioner and her podcast, The Healthy, Happy, and mostly Sane Entrepreneur.

Episode Timeline: * [00:03] Intro * [07:18] Meet Ellen Leonard * [10:26] Yoga in a hospital waiting room * [14:32] Mom's cancer diagnosis * [21:01] The hardest part and the biggest gift * [24:49] Healthy boundaries * [30:30] Important to take care of yourself * [35:30] Embracing her grief * [38:30] Coping during COVID-19 * [45:32] Celebrate your wins * [49:05] Negativity bias * [51:42] Surviving an apocalypse * [55:20] Lifetime in our house * [57:11] Ellen's work * [57:35] Contacting Ellen Leonard * [57:41] Jessie's rapid fire questions * [1:03:16] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Jessie Browning's episode on Healthy, Happy, and mostly Sane Entrepreneur podcast * Schitt's Creek * New Girl * Negativity bias * The Walking Dead * Love Actually

Standout Quotes: * "Everyone listening, you know, take what you do seriously, but don't take yourself too seriously." -Jessie Browning [10:09] * "You have to find these routines, these habits, self-care, health and wellness, all these things. They actually have to work for you and they have to work for you now." -Ellen Leonard [44:32] * "So often we overlook our wins." -Ellen Leonard [45:47]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning talks to a fellow podcast host, April Noelle Grant.

April talks about why she started her podcast, The Other Side of 40, that shares stories about women who did things after the age of 40. She also discusses how she coped with the loss of her second child and handles the misconceptions of being a stay at home mom. Listen to what book she uses to plan date nights with her husband.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:06] Meet April Noelle Grant
• [08:08] A mom during law school
• [11:55] Having a son with hypoplastic heart syndrome
• [17:20] A new job
• [18:11] Depression after losing her son
• [22:08] Getting married
• [25:14] An occupational shift
• [28:38] Having more children
• [32:40] Shifting from the legal profession to a stay-at-home mom
• [39:49] "I support your choice."
• [43:51] Feeling like a single mother
• [51:51] The Other Side of 40
• [55:06] Planning dates with her husband
• [1:01:09] Couples therapy
• [1:07:18] Launching The Other Side of 40 on her birthday
• [1:07:55] Where to find The Other Side of 40
• [1:08:21] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:11:44] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Ossa Collective * Hypoplastic heart syndrome * Breaking Bad * Mad Men * The Adventure Challenge: Couple's Edition

Standout Quotes: * "There are people that make it their job to try to work every system they possibly can and if you've never come across one in the world, consider yourself lucky." -Jessie Browning [28:14] * "I don't think a lot of women understand how much you really have to be intentional with being a stay-at-home mom. It's not something that you kind of do, and not to say there aren't women who do it, but I would say the vast majority are very intentional when they're home. They're very intentional with their families, their kids, because they do know that every day's the same. Every day is pretty much the same. The monotony of it all and trying to make it something and make it memorable and not have that monotony fall onto the kids." -April Noelle Grant [35:34] * "So part of the reason I started it as well is to create this community, because what I've realized is making massive, sweeping changes is really hard when you have no support." -April Noelle Grant [53:38]

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As bad as the moment was, losing everything was one of the best things to happen to Sherri Pauls. In the first episode of Prickly and Blooming Season 3, Sherri talks to host Jessie Browning about how she became the person she always wanted to be and how she started living in the moment. Listen to how she uses her five senses to help her through panic attacks.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [09:02] Meet Sherri Pauls
• [10:51] Losing everything in a house fire
• [12:59] Her childhood and family life
• [17:27] "It's just stuff"
• [21:41] No more comparisons
• [23:58] Living in the moment
• [26:32] Becoming aware
• [32:22] Meeting her husband
• [37:37] "Nothing real about me"
• [41:03] The five senses
• [46:35] Limping along
• [49:29] How things changed after the fire
• [56:38] EMDR
• [58:54] Giving herself room for grace
• [1:05:36] Everything is a gift
• [1:07:11] Missing roadtrips
• [1:14:58] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:20:56] Contacting Sherri Pauls
• [1:24:10] Outro

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In this last episode of Prickly and Blooming Season 2, host Jessie Browning checks in with some of her guests from Season 1.

Listen to Laura Wall talk about her new book and the unexpected listener to her previous episode. Maggie Gentry recaps her rollercoaster of a year and how she is adapting to being home. Teresa King reflects on losing an election, and Dr. Wendy Slinkard talks about the importance of making personal connections for her business.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [08:01] Checking in with Laura Wall
• [11:45] Launching her book
• [15:55] An unexpected listener
• [21:48] Checking in with Maggie Gentry
• [26:41] A rollercoaster of a year
• [31:04] Checking in with Teresa King
• [34:48] Reflecting on the election results
• [39:51] A positive conversation from an uncomfortable situation
• [43:03] Checking in with Dr. Wendy Slinkard
• [55:11] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Laura Hall's Prickly and Blooming episode * Hiral Patel's Prickly and Blooming episode * Cindy Villanueva's Prickly and Blooming episode * Maggie Gentry's Prickly and Blooming episode * Teresa King's Prickly and Blooming episode * Dr. Wendy Slinkard's Prickly and Blooming episode * Finding Our Wings: Seven Entrepreneurs on Reclaiming Hope and Power by Laura Wall, Lindsey Daniels, Cindy Villanueva, Laura Bautista, Patricia Cashion, Hiral Patel and Amber Tarcha * Hearts of Healing Center * Refuge for Women * King's Ransom

Standout Quotes: * "Detaching from outcomes has been the theme of the year." -Laura Wall [08:40] * "It was a perfect example of what we've talked about and I've talked about it in other episodes is like ‘Don't wait until your life blows up.'" -Jessie Browning [44:44] * "This project has given my life. Like it's giving me connections and stories and listening and laughing and crying, which are all things I live for, that I love, that I need and that have been so helpful in this weird year that we've had, this isolated year." -Jessie Browning [55:45]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Kimberly Wolfe speaks with host Jessie Browning about finding joy again after her divorce. She explains how she set boundaries to reform her life after she became a single mom when her baby was four month old. Listen to how she explains what steps she took to stop the shame spiral and why that was important for her.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [07:09] Meet Kimberly Wolfe
• [09:06] Becoming a single mom
• [16:48] A divorce depression
• [19:20] Can't pour from an empty cup
• [27:32] Her negative coping skills
• [35:23] Sitting through shame
• [39:17] How to get rid of shame
• [43:54] Unloading emotional labor
• [50:15] Being a single parent
• [53:56] Filling her space
• [58:58] Reform her life
• [1:02:20] Her future for now
• [1:06:55] Her adoption story
• [1:10:00] Momslapped podcast
• [1:12:11] Contacting Kimberly Wolfe
• [1:14:00] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:21:25] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Brene Brown's books * The Michelle Obama Podcast * Unlocking Us Podcast

Standout Quotes: * "If I have a plan for the future, I can be safe in the present." -Kimberly Wolfe [09:37] * "It's insane how unequipped we go into motherhood." -Kimberly Wolfe [19:19] * "If my daughter came to me 10 years from now and said ‘I feel shame about this in my life.' And I told her ‘Well, just go sit in the other room for awhile,' like that's not going to help her. She needs to be open about it and she needs to see a mom who can say ‘This is my shame' and bring it into the world, because then she can also do that in her life." -Kimberly Wolfe [43:06]

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Stef Caldwell was on track to complete her 10-year plan until she got the call from her boss. Her position at work had been eliminated. She was moved to a new role in a new department, but it completely devastated her.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Stef speaks with host Jessie Browning about realizing how she determined her self worth through work and how she adjusted this mindset by setting ruthless boundaries. She also talks about her company, Manifest, that helps ambitious women set and achieve their goals.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [05:33] Meet Stef Caldwell
• [07:12] An unexpected job change
• [10:57] The importance to nurture your mental health
• [15:30] Follow the White Rabbit moment
• [19:43] Getting her dream job, then losing the dream job
• [24:04] "My life is sacred"
• [27:58] Setting ruthless boundaries
• [30:36] Inspiration on Bixby Creek Bridge
• [34:58] Hindsight is 2020
• [40:19] Never stop learning
• [42:11] Dreaming big
• [45:57] Contacting Stef Caldwell
• [47:10] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [55:40] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * ManifestHer: The Ambitious Woman's Guide to: Getting Unstuck, Navigating the Ambiguity of Your Post-Prescribed Life, and Manifesting Your Biggest Dreams by Stef Caldwell * Ritual Hot Yoga * Insight Timer * "Making Your Life Sacred" by Sarah Blondin * Arianna Huffington * Miki Agrawal * You²: A High-Velocity Formula for Multiplying your Personal Effectiveness in Quantum Leaps by Price Pritchett, PhD

Standout Quotes: * "My personal mission to help women claim their power and step into their potential." -Stef Caldwell [06:28] * "And in that moment, I realized that 100% of my self worth was tied up in who I was in the office, and that just couldn't be the case anymore." -Stef Caldwell [10:34] * "Self-love, in the way that we define it in Manifest, is expressing a deep affection for your essential being. And self-care, as we define it, is the health, welfare, maintenance and protection of your essential being. And when you start reframing self-care is like what do I need for my health? What do I need for my welfare? What do I need for the maintenance of me and for the protection of me? You start really shape shifting." -Stef Caldwell [38:49]

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Jess Norman never thought she would get a divorce, but she found herself in a Wal-Mart parking lot telling her dad on the phone that she was getting one. Growing up in the church, she thought she would be disowned if she did, but that didn't happen.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jess speaks with host Jessie Browning about getting a divorcing her first husband. She also shares how she discusses and works through issues with her now-husband on their podcast, Moving On.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:50] Meet Jess Norman
• [08:04] Never thought she would get a divorce
• [11:08] Heading to Texas
• [17:48] Divorce at 32
• [25:02] That was it
• [27:01] A different love language
• [33:18] Alone for the first time
• [37:47] Top fears of her divorce
• [39:59] Jess' and Jay's endgame
• [43:44] Where Jess' life is now
• [52:02] Moving On podcast
• [57:02] Love for fears
• [59:37] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:07:32] Contacting Jess Norman
• [1:10:06] Outro

Standout Quotes: * "I read this neat thing today that said ‘When we're waiting on God, God's usually waiting on us.' I thought that was really beautiful. So I'm positive that God was waiting on me for three years, not to get divorce, but to find my way, which way I was going to go" -Jess Norman [24:42] * "We're always on the same page where the things that we do during the weekend are for when our kids are in their 20s." -Jess Norman [40:18] * "I'll give you love for your fears." -Jessie Browning [58:24]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning wraps up this month with the story about a Katy Perry concert. After gifting her four children with tickets, the family takes a trip to Dallas to see Katy Perry perform in concert. Jessie shares how her and her husband decided to take a chance and moved from their seats in the nosebleed section to a section much closer to the stage. That decision was worth it.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [11:23] Experiences over things
• [13:27] Katy Perry tickets
• [15:04] Go big or go home
• [16:28] Heading to Dallas
• [17:46] At concert
• [21:37] Moving from the nosebleed section
• [25:37] Katy Perry comes on stage
• [30:40] Witness: The Tour facts
• [31:31] Seize the opportunity, but don't get thrown out
• [34:18] The set list
• [36:35] Contacting Lajoie Society
• [36:44] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Katy Perry

Witness: The Tour Standout Quotes: * "You have this little moment with your kids where you're just like ‘I'm fully aware of what we're doing right now, and I just need you to roll with it.'" -Jessie Browning [23:01] * "So Katy is doing all right that we like skipped out on paying for the seats that we sat in. We paid for the cheap seats in the back." -Jessie Browning [31:14]

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Cindy Villanueva knew what she wanted to do for the rest of her life when she was 15 years old. She had it all mapped out, but those plans were derailed when she found herself pregnant during her freshman year of college.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Cindy talks to host Jessie Browning about how she went from a Type-A perfectionist with her life all planned out to becoming one of four women who owns an Ernie Reyes World Martial Arts school. Listen as she describes her journey in martial arts and why it's important to find people who will cheer you on through life.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:07] Meet Cindy Villanueva
• [05:15] From the golden girl to a statistic
• [08:40] Best mom, but miserable wife
• [12:03] Getting her black belt
• [21:54] Don't forget those successes
• [24:46] Working with young women
• [26:45] Finding people who cheer for you
• [32:36] A have to life vs a want to life
• [38:04] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [41:34] Contacting Cindy Villanueva
• [42:05] Finding Our Wings
• [44:03] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Finding Our Wings: Seven Entrepreneurs on Reclaiming Hope and Power by Laura Wall, Lindsey Daniels, Cindy Villanueva, Laura Bautista, Patricia Cashion, Hiral Patel, Amber Tarcha * Becoming by Michelle Obama * Shawn Achor's TED talk on happiness

Standout Quotes: * "The lessons I learned from that experience that you know what, sometimes all you gotta do is you just gotta stand up. It doesn't matter what you've been through, you just gotta stand up." -Cindy Villanueva [20:12] * "So I always tell everybody, you know what, believe in your coach until you can believe in yourself." -Cindy Villanueva [30:57] * "We have to find ways of setting appropriate boundaries and having conversations without getting wrapped up emotionally about it." -Cindy Villanueva [34:51]

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After a day of working at her corporate job, Hannah Bauman went to her parents' house and had a panic attack. She was at the end of her rope and knew she needed to change careers.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Hannah talks to host Jessie Browning about leaving the corporate life to pursue her childhood dream in the writing industry. Listen as she describes her journey to become a book editor and writing coach and how freelancing helps her physical health.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:52] Meet Hannah Bauman
• [05:47] At the end of her rope
• [09:36] Entering the editing workforce
• [11:05] Moving to Washington DC
• [15:55] When it started to percolate
• [19:40] The flood gates opened
• [23:27] Finding her joy again
• [25:57] Going freelance
• [34:55] Back at square one in 2020
• [37:02] How therapy helped
• [45:12] How her career helps her health
• [48:43] We can do hard things
• [50:47] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [55:46] Contacting Hannah Bauman
• [56:57] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Your Mental Wealth * "Tempo" by Lizzo (feat. Missy Elliott) music video

Standout Quotes: * "I was like I don't know how I'm going to make it work with a full-time job that often goes over hours, but I'm going to try to figure it out. To at least it, because I thought this might be an out if it could work." -Hannah Bauman [24:35] * "Such a big part of my journey is what I'm doing is enough and who I am is enough, and those are also two separate things." -Hannah Bauman [39:37] * "That's honestly added such a layer of challenge with the entrepreneurship because it's good for my physical health, but how can I take care of myself if I'm not making enough money?" -Hannah Bauman [48:02]

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Amanda Anderson went to a doctor's appointment after giving birth and didn't come home for five days. She was admitted on a suicide watch. She was pissed to be there but decided to accept the help they were offering her.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Amanda has a real conversation with host Jessie Browning about postpartum depression. Listen as she discusses how art was not only a helpful form of therapy but had also saved her life.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:01] Meet Amanda Anderson
• [06:07] On a suicide watch
• [07:34] What lead to that
• [12:08] "Girl, something's wrong"
• [15:19] Getting admitted
• [18:23] Using art as therapy
• [25:13] Sketched and Sealed Art Membership
• [27:52] Now what?
• [34:20] Taking care of me
• [38:02] Word of the year: transform
• [43:05] Giving back program
• [45:43] Free art club
• [47:38] Contacting Amanda Anderson
• [48:51] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [57:25] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Sketched and Sealed Free Art Club * Sketched and Sealed Art Membership * Postpartum Support International

Standout Quotes: * "We aren't crazy. We just need your help dealing with things, you know. " -Amanda Anderson [21:41] * "You can see the value in slowing down and doing things for yourself when you've seen the opposite. You know, of how bad it can be if you let everything go." -Jessie Browning [33:45] * "If you don't take action, you're not going to go anywhere. If you want to learn to walk, you have to actually freaking move your feet." -Amanda Anderson [41:27]

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It's the end of the month and time for another PB&J episode. In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning brings back her husband, Daniel Browning, to talk about their 15 years anniversary. They recap their past anniversary celebrations and what they look for in future ones. Listen as they discuss what makes their marriage work and unique.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [04:49] The voice from the intro
• [05:49] 15 year anniversary
• [08:04] September 30, 2005
• [10:50] A Vegas wedding
• [14:13] Jessie's birthday
• [15:03] Talking about anniversaries
• [21:52] Being married for 15 years
• [25:56] Advice from Paul Dunham
• [30:12] What is unique about us?
• [35:46] The hard times
• [42:01] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [45:59] Outro

Standout Quotes: * "I'm not even going to explain to everyone why we're not to the beach. Like pick one of the 10 fucking obvious reasons from 2020 and that's why we're not going on vacation this year." -Jessie Browning [07:06] * "I actually said if I ever get married again, I'd get married in flip flops." -Daniel Browning [10:37] * "I've always been interested and curious as to why there's not more conversations about being parents of older children." -Jessie Browning [28:39]

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When she was 10 years old, Samantha Heuwagen moved to a small town after growing up in a city with a multicultural community. It was quite the change for her, and she didn't see anybody like her. The town wasn't for her and she wanted to get out of there.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Samantha chats with host Jessie Browning about growing up in a small town and how entering a beauty pageant helped her realize that she wanted to pursue a career that helps people. Listen as she discusses how a college that adapted to her learning disabilities helped her success in class.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:51] Meet Samantha Heuwagen
• [04:30] Growing up in a multicultural community
• [10:04] Moving to Michigan
• [16:04] Finding out she has a learning disability
• [20:01] The Red Flannel Queen pageant
• [28:53] The day of the pageant
• [34:53] And the winner is...
• [39:39] Leaving Cedar Springs
• [42:33] Women and gender studies change her life
• [45:36] Attending grad school in Florida
• [46:56] The decision to become a sex therapist
• [49:42] Relocating to Georgia
• [53:16] The Starless series
• [55:16] Her private practice
• [58:46] How mentors helped Samantha
• [1:00:50] Contacting Samantha Heuwagen
• [1:04:07] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:14:37] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * "Dawn Among the Stars" by Samantha Heuwagen * The Starless Series by Samantha Heuwagen * Red Flannel Queen pageant

Standout Quotes: * "I started off realizing, ‘Oh, I'm not smart' to finally realize, ‘no, no, no. I'm just smart in a different way.' I might forget how to spell a word. Is that because she's bilingual? Is that because she's got disabilities? I realized all of this is part of who I am and I need to accept it." -Samantha Heuwagen [46:09] * "I feel so stable, even though we're in the middle of a pandemic and all that. But I feel confident and I feel very grateful for all the clients that I work with, even the troubled ones." -Samantha Heuwagen [56:14] * "Think Twilight meets War of the Worlds, but without the bad Twilight on healthy relationships." -Samantha Heuwagen [1:02:19]

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One morning, Tricia Brooks reached for her phone and realized she couldn't feel anything from her waist down. She knew she was stressed from working two jobs, taking more than a full load of college courses and acting in a professional play, but she had never experienced stress like this.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Tricia chats with host Jessie Browning about how she recovered from that morning which required her to take a hard look at her life choices. Listen as she describes how her path towards healing also changed her career path.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:57] Meet Tricia Brooks
• [04:38] Waking up feeling numb
• [09:27] Ask questions and do your research
• [11:34] Taking a hard look at herself
• [17:56] Figuring it out it was shingles
• [20:39] Strong intuition
• [22:26] The work towards healing
• [30:28] Peeling the onion
• [32:14] Reading vs experiencing
• [36:12] Attending college
• [37:43] Changing her routine
• [43:48] New focus means new career
• [52:38] Tricia's last thoughts
• [53:32] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:02:03] Contacting Tricia Brooks
• [1:03:39] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod * Eckhart Tolle * The Gifts of Imperfections by Brene Brown

Standout Quotes: * "Sometimes I knew that I was stressed. I knew I was to a different point of stress that I had never experienced in my life, but I think it was this underlying thing of I just said ‘it's fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. Everything is going to be good. I'm just going to do all these different things, not get any sleep. I'm just going to study harder. I'm just going to work harder,' but the thing is your body is always giving you signs. Your body will keep giving you signs until it's like you listen and I wasn't listening." -Tricia Brooks [07:00] * "Books are amazing and I still read every single day and I love it, but there's a different thing from reading the book and actually experiencing the shit, you know what I'm saying, and applying that to your life." -Tricia Brooks [32:26] * "The anticipation. That's the worry you were talking about. Yes, the anticipation of things are so much worse than they actually are." -Jessie Browning [33:46]

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Jen Hirst didn't see herself in the image of an alcoholic, but her drinking caused her to lose her job, her car and almost her marriage. It was when she found herself as a 30-year-old sitting on her childhood bed at her parents house and googling if she was having a heart attack that she started her bumpy road to recovery.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jen chats with host Jessie Browning about receiving treatment for her alcoholism and her relapses. She didn't share about her recovery until she started coaching and spent four of those seven years as a closet sober person living a dry, drunk lifestyle. Listen as Jen explains to Jessie why it helped her to overcome the shame of being an alcoholic by being outspoken about it.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:54] Meet Jen Hirst
• [06:17] How Jen reached rock bottom
• [12:37] Why she gave up drinking
• [14:15] Her first drink
• [16:10] The first time she abused alcohol
• [18:26] Recovering perfectionist
• [22:36] Drinking and wedding planning
• [25:25] Seeking treatment
• [28:19] The second DWI
• [34:38] One bite at a time
• [39:14] An isolating road to recovery
• [42:39] Becoming a sober coach
• [47:12] Wine Mom culture
• [52:29] Conquering the shame
• [55:27] Jen's tools to maintain recovery
• [1:04:43] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [1:12:34] Contacting Jen Hirst
• [1:14:27] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Brené Brown * Quit Like a Woman: The Radical Choice to Not Drink in a Culture Obsessed with Alcohol by Holly Whitaker * Floor is Lava * Peace & Calming Essential Oil Blend from Young Living * Stress Away Essential Oil Blend from Young Living * The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober: Discovering a happy, healthy, wealthy alcohol-free life by Catherine Gray * This Naked Mind: Control Alcohol: Find Freedom, Rediscover Happiness & Change Your Life by Annie Grace * Sober Curious: The Blissful Sleep, Greater Focus, Limitless Presence, and Deep Connection Awaiting Us All on the Other Side of Alcohol by Ruby Warrington * Rachel Hollis

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When Megan Clayton was 22 years old, she found herself looking at a house she couldn't afford with her then-husband, her parents and a realtor. It was a fixer-upper but a great house. As she listened to everyone talk about filling the rooms with kids, Megan realized she didn't want any of it.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Megan chats with host Jessie Browning about reevaluating her life in her early 20s after that moment and how yoga and therapy helped her through those hard growing pains.

Episode Timeline:

• • [00:03] Intro
  • [04:59] Meet Megan Clayton
  • [05:57] Megan's wake-up call
  • [09:22] Not a "Say Yes to the Dress" wedding
  • [12:24] Looking at a potential house
  • [17:24] "I really wanted it to work."
  • [21:01] Moved back with the parents
  • [23:27] Her healing process
  • [29:08] Dating now-husband
  • [33:55] Megan's tools
  • [41:27] Knowing what you don't want
  • [43:42] Hell of a four years
  • [49:44] What's next for Megan?
  • [52:15] Jessie's rapid fire questions
  • [1:03:32] Contacting Megan Clayton

• [1:05:16] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Untamed by Glennon Doyle * Yoga With Adriene * Holotropic Breathwork

Standout Quotes: * "It was like a huge wake-up call just that the things that I was supposed to be wanting as a newlywed and as the good daughter and all of these things, I realized in an instant that I didn't actually want those things. It was a really hard pill to swallow, because I was in this life already." -Megan Clayton [08:30] * "I felt like I had been sleepwalking through my life and I realized like who tows all of these things for me, ‘cause it didn't feel like it was a life that was my choice." -Megan Clayton [13:17] * "Starting with what you don't like and don't want is really fucking valid." -Jessie Browning [41:28]

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Wrapping up the month, host Jessie Browning takes a break from the deep topics to indulge in celebrity crushes with Monica Danna. Two and a half years ago, Jessie met her celebrity crush, Justin Theroux, after the actor walked into her coffee shop. Monica shares her story about how her dad helped her to meet her celebrity crush, Justin Timberlake, on a cold December night.

Listen to how both gathered the courage to initially approach their crushes, but how second changes provided those memories of a lifetime.

Episode Timeline: * [00:05] Intro * [02:08] Hello Monica * [04:31] Jessie's history with Justin Theroux * [06:26] February 18, 2018 * [11:39] There he is again * [14:46] Selfies with Justin * [17:56] Waiting for Armageddon * [21:02] "Are you going to watch The Leftovers now?" * [23:31] The shirt * [26:58] Monica's story * [32:34] Heading to the airport * [34:46] Seeing Justin Timberlake * [36:47] "I'll never forget this feeling" * [39:35] A second chance * [41:57] Recapping at Taco Cabana * [44:31] Jessie's rapid fire questions

• [55:37] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Justin Theroux * HBO's 6 Feet Under * HBO's The Leftovers * Justin Timberlake * The 20/20 Experience by Justin Timberlake

Standout Quotes: * "I hope that this photo is framed somewhere in your home." -Monica Danna [17:06] * "I did not talk about her. I was not bringing her into my moment." -Jessie Browning [18:56] * "So we're standing there and I'll never forget this feeling. The stairs from the jet slowly lower down and my heart just drops to my stomach. Like, this is happening. This is my moment. This is what I've been waiting for my whole life." -Monica Danna [36:47]

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In the second episode of this two-part series, Maylee Willson continues her honest conversation about alcoholism with Prickly and Blooming host Jessie Browning. She talks about the events leading up to February 27, 2018 when she checked into a treatment center to detox. Maylee has been sober since February 28, 2018.

Listen to how she adjusted to life after treatment. She shares her experience attending her first AA meeting and how those meetings saved her life.

Episode Timeline:

• • [00:03] Intro
  • [02:24] Something's gotta change
  • [06 35] The last selfie before getting sober
  • [07:38] Word of the year: commitment
  • [09:05] February 27, 2018
  • [12:25] Going into treatment
  • [14:23] Her first AA meeting
  • [17:16] Brene Brown Book Club
  • [18:15] "Rehab is gonna suck"
  • [24:40] Family Day
  • [26:16]Untamed by Glennon Doyle
  • [29:19] Finding her sponsor
  • [34:12] Adjusting to life after treatment
  • [38:08] Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis
  • [44:43] Word of 2020: community
  • [46:47] Jessie's rapid fire questions
  • [50:19] Contacting Maylee Willson

• [51:34] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Alcoholics Anonymous * Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis * I Thought It Was Just Me (but it isn't): Making the Journey from "What Will People Think?" to "I Am Enough" by Brené Brown * Untamed by Glennon Doyle * Serenity House

Standout Quotes: * "I think the more that we share our honest, real stories about what alcoholism looks like and who it affects, the more we can reach other people who are suffering and maybe affect them to step out of the storyline they've been living and try a new one." -Jessie Browning [01:23] * "That was the first AA meeting that I've ever gone to and that was the first time that I ever said out loud ‘I am an alcoholic' and that was the first time in my life that I met people who knew what I felt like." -Maylee Willson [14:36] * "Treatment got me sober. It gave me a safe space to get clean and it taught me a lot, but then AA has kept me that way. AA is really what has saved my life." -Maylee Willson [35:03]

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Maylee Willson remembers the day she woke up in a bed at a detox center in Abilene, TX. It was February 28, 2018. She asked herself how did she get there? It became the start of a very honest conversation with herself that she never had before.

In the first episode of a two-part series, Maylee talks with Prickly and Blooming host Jessie Browning about the origins of her alcoholism and how it started to affect her family with a young child.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [03:44] The moment that changed Maylee Willson
• [05 30] What got here there?
• [09:02] The progression from her first drink
• [14:53] Hangxiety
• [17:10] Drinking starts affecting her life
• [23:51] An intervention
• [26:20] Moving back to Abilene
• [29:55] Going through recovery during pregnancy
• [36:01] Back to work
• [39:34] Mommy wine culture
• [42:41] Feeling empty

Resources Mentioned: * Alcoholics Anonymous * Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis * Hangxiety

Standout Quotes: * "There's this cycle that I was in and that I know that has happened to lots of other alcoholics is that you drink to ease this anxiety, but then the anxiety comes from the alcohol, so you're just constantly trying to find relief from something." -Maylee Willson [16:19] * "Looking back on it, it's like I know that the action that I'm taking that is giving me this result, but I just couldn't realize you have to take that action out of your life." -Maylee Willson [21:06] * "The number one reason that I want to do this and have this conversation with you is I just cannot live with myself knowing that there are other women out there who are going through what I had been through. I cannot let them do that without saying there is a way out of this. Whether you want to do it or not, there's hope and there are options." -Maylee Willson [42:01]

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Julie Schechter, a Harvard graduate, was sitting in her office in a New York high-rise tower when she realized she didn't like what she was doing or feel that she was making any kind of contribution. She felt lost, an overwhelming sense of misalignment and decided to change her career path.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Julie talks with host Jessie Browning about how she navigated that career shift and founded her business, Small Packages, that work to end the loneliness epidemic across the US. She also talks about how her business idea became a timely project during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Episode Timeline: * [00:03] Intro * [00:25] Meet Julie Schechter * [02 :14] An overwhelming sense of misalignment * [04:56] Julie's law school journey * [10:23] Making the decision to quit * [12:08] Starting her first business * [13:00] Finding her community * [16:34] Building a product-based business * [20:42] Feeling that shift * [24:26] The launch of Small Packages * [29:08] Working as an entrepreneur vs as a lawyer * [30:03] How COVID-19 affected Small Packages * [31:59] How Small Packages works and where the idea came from * [35:05] A summation of Julie's experience * [37:39] Jessie's rapid fire questions * [40:49] Contacting Julie Schechter * [42:15] Outro

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Standout Quotes: * "As an entrepreneur, it's a lonely road unless you decide you are determined for it not to be." -Julie Schechter [14:06] * "Being able to visualize the end product pretty clearly, I think, is always the physical sign that something is showing that you are on the right path." -Julie Schechter [21:12] * "Just not be afraid of the fact that there's so much more fluidity to life and we're initially led to believe and that's not a scary thing. That's the way life is." -Julie Schechter [36:19]

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In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, host Jessie Browning takes a break from her deep dive conversations and reminisces with her husband, Daniel Browning, on how they met. They travel back to 2004 before everyone had access to a smartphone and Facebook.

Jessie through she was #done with dating guys in Austin until she received a private message on MySpace. Enjoy as you listen to the couple, who's been married for almost 15 years, describe how they took their relationship from online to offline.

Episode Timeline: * [00:46] Intro * [03:25] PB&J with Daniel Browning * [05:14] Why is Daniel here? * [06:51] Going back to 2004 * [13:00] The MySpace message * [22:05] Taking it offline * [26:55] Daniel explains himself * [29:03] Going back to the MySpace conversation * [29:57] "I see how it is." * [31:13] Hanging out again * [33:08] Jessie almost moved to LA * [35:39] Accessing Jessie's vulnerability * [37:41] Outro

Standout Quotes: * "I swear ghosting came into being because of the City of Austin." -Jessie Browning [28:57] * "Fucking MySpace though, man." -Jessie Browning [33:34] * "We always talk about this story in the context of my wrongs from dropping my phone in the lake and the person that I was for not calling you back, but we never discussed it from the fact that you only went out with me to get away from something." -Daniel Browning [33:45]

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After a bad reaction to her medication, Austin musician Ali Holder decided to stop drinking after a gig. It wasn't fun for her anymore, but it also made her realize how much she was numbing herself to all the pain and emotion she felt with alcohol.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Ali talks with host Jessie Browning about her journey with chronic pain. She shares what tools and techniques she uses to overhaul her body and mind to help her be aware of her thoughts and be with the pain. She also discusses how she's figuring out who she is in this new world during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [02:08] Meet Ali Holder
• [05:40] The moment that changed Ali's life
• [12:11] How COVID-19 changed routines and perspectives
• [15:36] Peeling an onion layer
• [17:00] Living with chronic pain
• [25:12] Liberation through communication
• [27:30] Taking back your story
• [30:32] Ali's eating disorder
• [38:10] The tools Ali used to move forward
• [44:34] What's in the future for Ali?
• [46:30] Contacting Ali Holder
• [47:27] Jessie's rapid fire questions
• [54:03] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Unfuck Your Brain * Curable * Intuitive Eating: A Revolutionary Program that Works by Elyse Resch and Evelyn Tribole * Food Psych * The Cure for Chronic Pain by Nicole Sachs * Headspace * SIMS Foundation * My HAAM

Standout Quotes: * "It's crazy what I've been learning about chronic pain. One of the main tricks to trick your central nervous system is when the pain's there to be like alright. Let's observe this and let's just welcome it. The more that we don't fear it, the more it goes away. The more that we rewire." -Ali Holder [16:37] * "I wish that I would have been raised off of Girls and not Sex in the City. I would have a completely different paradigm with empowerment." -Ali Holder [19:11] * "There's power in this sort of connection… It's not promoting something else. It's purely for the sake of connection." -Jessie Browning [29:20]

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Lorna Hermosura found herself close to the finish line towards her dream of earning a PhD until she found herself stuck. The idea of her professors reading her thoughts on paper made her freeze up and question her worthiness.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Lorna talks with host Jessie Browning about how she found the confidence to develop her voice with the help of a dance class and other chance encounters. She previously talked about her work in cultural proficiency training where she breaks down social construction of race and how we got here in a two-part special for Prickly and Blooming last month.

Episode Timeline: * [00:03] Intro * [02:28] Meet Lorna Hermosura * [03:38] The moment Lorna realized she was stuck * [11:09] "I defined my life by pain" * [14:16] Situational cultural identity * [17:33] Getting unstuck * [24:50] Finding validation at the library * [33:33] Lorna's dissertation on the school to prison pipeline * [37:27] Restorative practice and restorative justice * [43:34] Cultural proficiency training * [45:03] Lorna's tools to stay in mindful spot * [51:08] Jessie's rapid fire questions * [58:21] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Dr. Gabor Maté * Kundalini Yoga * Prickly and Blooming's special episodes with Lorna Hermosura - Part 1, Part 2

Standout Quotes: * "When we process those (difficult emotions), when we look at those truths and feel the feelings, then we can move past it. The only way out is through." -Lorna Hermosura [30:15] * "In the world of education, there's so many new approaches and innovations and things, but not very often are those approaches informed by the actual kids who are living those experiences." -Lorna Hermosura [36:35] * "Challenging our habits of thought and taking ownership of our thoughts that to me is what mindfulness really is getting at, and when we're no longer living from our pain, and when we're no longer living from these automatic messages that society gives us, that's when we can truly be rooted in our foundation and rooted in who we are, and live our authentic live." -Lorna Hermosura [42:18]

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In this first episode of season 2 of Prickly and Blooming, love and sex coach Casey Johnson-Aksoy talks with host Jessie Browning about finding her voice. Casey shares the moment that made her realize that things needed to change and how she learned to understand her feelings and desires to have better communication with her loved ones.

Episode Timeline: * [00:01] Intro * [05:22] Meet Casey Johnson-Aksoy * [07:00] What to know about Casey Johnson-Aksoy * [07:47] The moment of change * [18:02] "I don't want to be fixed" * [19:05] Discovering boundaries * [21:57] Choose happiness * [27:45] Finding her voice * [41:33] Her tools * [45:18] The work that she does * [51:35] Unblocking desire * [01:02:01] Jessie's silly questions * [01:05:46] Contacting Casey Johnson-Aksoy * [01:06:24] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Mama Gena

Standout Quotes: * "We have to stop giving boys toolboxes to fix everything ‘cause they all think they can." -Jessie Browning [18:02] * "Get to know yourself, first and foremost. Get to know your body. Get to know what feels good. Get to know what doesn't feel good. ‘Cause once you have that language, once you have that understanding, you're able to articulate that to the person you're in a sexual relationship with, but you can't be empowered in sexuality if you don't know what feels good." -Casey Johnson-Aksoy [56:09]

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In this special episode of Prickly and Blooming, Lorna Hermosura talks with host Jessie Browning about the social construction of race. Lorna breaks down the history of how categorizing people by race became a social norm. She also discusses why it's important to listen and recognize how people's lived experiences play a role in their identity.

This is the second part of a two-part conversation with Lorna in which she talks about where race came from. In the first episode in this series of conversations, Lorna discusses America's housing history.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:02] Intro
• [02:04] Meet Lorna Hermosura
• [04:24] School segregation
• [06:45] Title 1 schools
• [08:52] Concept of race
• [12:52] Hispanic vs non-Hispanic
• [17:02] History of categorizing people
• [23:26] Using race to divide people
• [27:30] Hypodescent rule
• [29:41] Acute vs pervasive trauma
• [32:11] Recognizing lived experiences
• [34:34] Entry points
• [42:20] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Danger of a Single Story by Chimamanda Adichie * 13th by Ava DuVernay (also on Netflix) * White Fragility by Robin Diangelo * Race as Biology Is Fiction, Racism as a Social Problem Is Real by Audrey Smedley, Virginia Commonwealth University and Brian D. Smedley, Institute of Medicine

Standout Quotes: * "Having blanket statements that actually don't apply to everybody is part of the systemic racism." -Lorna Hermosura [16:48] * "And I hear people say, ‘I don't believe in race. I'm a human being. My race is the human race,' and I agree. We are all human beings… It's a beautiful thing to see everybody as human beings, but we cannot ignore how society has constructed itself here in the United States such that racism still is a problem." -Lorna Hermosura [32:25]

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In the next two special episodes of Prickly and Blooming, Lorna Hermosura talks with host Jessie Browning about how America's history plays into the present moment with Black Lives Matter. Lorna has given presentations about institutional racism, how it was constructed and where it comes from, specifically with the school and prison pipeline.

This episode is the first part of a two-part conversation with Lorna in which she talks about the country's housing history. Part 2 will discuss social construction of race and where race came from.

Episode Timeline: * [00:02] Intro * [02:52] Meet Lorna Hermosura * [04:08] Looking for her Gatorade

• [07:50] School to prison pipeline
• [9:37] Breaking Schools' Rule
• [13:26] United States' history
• [21:38] Why do people live where they live?
• [28:27] How this is an example of systematic racism
• [30:43] Generational wealth
• [32:13] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * White Fragility by Robin Diangelo * Danger of a Single Story by Chimamanda Adichie * 13th by Ava DuVernay (also on Netflix) * Mapping Inequality by University of Richmond (Home Owners Loan Corporation redlining maps) * Breaking Schools' Rule by Tony Fabelo, Michael D Thompson, and Martha Plotkin at CSG Justice Center and Dottie Carmichael, Miner P. Marchbanks III, and Eric A Booth at PPRI * The Story of the Contract Buyers League

Standout Quotes: * "People might not necessarily be called to protest, but we all have our own version of Gatorade, right? What can we give?" -Lorna Hermosura [05:09] * "If we want to move forward and heal from the past and move forward to become better, we have to look at the ugly parts of our history as individuals and then as a country." -Lorna Hermosura [12:43]

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Maggie Gentry started seeing a therapist when she started her business as a marketing consultant business coach in 2016. As she engaged in more meditation and wellness programs, she saw her personal life evolve as her work evolved.

Today, Maggie sits down with host Jessie Browning to talk about how she developed her Own Your Why philosophy. She asked herself questions to determine her business' purpose. "What am I worth?" "What is my work worth?" But most importantly, "why?" Hear her story of how going through meditation training resulted in her recent divorce.

Episode Timeline: * [00:03] Intro * [00:58] Meet Maggie Gentry * [02:35] The moment her life changed * [08:32] The lava started rising * [15:55] Own Your Why philosophy * [25:38] What helped her * [30:40] How her business changed during COVID-19 * [36:16] Her business * [41:18] Be in the goodness * [43:08] Contacting Maggie Gentry * [45:28] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Sophie Luxton - Juicy Woman Revolution * Rage Becomes Her by Soraya Chemaly * Barbara Erochina - Be With * Insight Timer

Standout Quotes: * "So powerful to be in a room of women where we were given tools to move through that rage and that grief safely." -Maggie Gentry [07:37] * "In addition to therapy, I think having the vocabulary that [Barbara Erochina] shared was extremely helpful for me to be able to understand that feelings and emotions are signals from my body and so not ignoring the signals that they're sending." -Maggie Gentry [16:42] * "I think for me, it's staying really focused on why I'm doing this. Which for me, it goes back to what we shared, redirecting the conversation for how to be in business, being able to see those of us that choose to have a business is merely a way to channel the change that we want to see in the world. It is merely a platform." -Maggie Gentry [37:45]

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Johanna Burkhardt knew she had to directly face her emotions from a death in her family rather than push them aside.

Today, Johanna sits down with host Jessie Browning to talk about she used this moment to not only bring herself back up, but also help and guide others dealing with trauma. Hear what healing tools and coping mechanism helped her and how she launched her Soul Evolution movement during COVID-19 pandemic.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:03] Intro
• [01:12] Meet Johanna Burkhardt
• [02:52] The moment her life changed
• [04:16] A big shift in her life
• [13:12] Hitting the bottom
• [22:59] The day everything changed for her
• [23:14] The quote that got her out of bed
• [23:49] Realizing what matters the most
• [26:04] Facing what you're feeling
• [26:28] What saved her life
• [26:49] Discovering her mission
• [27:27] The pivotal moment when the pattern comes to an end
• [28:03] Putting your ego into work for you
• [28:47] The best advice she's received
• [32:32] Feeling becomes your fuel
• [34:12] Suffering is self obsession
• [36:32] Creating your reality and be the change
• [37:13] Self-realization
• [38:09] Four ways to find your root cycles
• [43:08] Using your survival instincts
• [48:38] Possibility or opportunity
• [50:37] How to get unstuck
• [53:13] Tools that work
• [54:44] What spirituality means to Johanna
• [55:12] Remembering the basics
• [56:22] Wound of abandonment
• [58:12] Her new routine for 40 days
• [1:02:42] Where the magic lies
• [1:03:18] Determining if an accountability partner works for you
• [1:04:45] Launching her Soul Evolution movement during COVID-19 pandemic
• [1:10:13] Johanna's work
• [1:12:08] Becoming a medium
• [1:17:38] Responding from a place of love
• [1:20:43] Contacting Johanna Burkhardt
• [1:22:32] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Gabby Bernstein - "May Cause Miracles: A 40-Day Guidebook of Subtle Shifts for Radical Change and Unlimited Happiness" * Sylvia Browne * Insight Timer

Standout Quotes: * "Here's the thing. You can't outrun your problems, right? What you don't face will return." -Johanna Burkhardt [04:08] * "Your emotions have to be digested the same way food is. It has to be. And those raw emotions, they become the fuel for your driving force, your engine, your solar plexus. It is in sitting with and feeling those emotions and allowing yourself to not be a victim of them, but just say you know what, it's ok for me to feel right now." -Johanna Burkhardt [30:53] * "We're not afraid of anything but we are afraid of feeling everything." -Johanna Burkhardt [32:16] * "If it's not challenging you, it's not changing you." -Jessie Browning [59:44] * "But if you want to create change in your life, you have to consistently show up for yourself even when you don't want to do it. Because here's the thing, what you resist is your greatest potential. What you resist is exactly what you need. So the more resistant you become to it, the further you come to getting the solution to the problem that you've been seeking. " -Johanna Burkhardt [01:01:49]

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For Dr. Wendy Slinkard, change had to come before she hit the ground. Giving up alcohol served as a powerful catalyst for change that she didn't know her life was missing.

Today, Wendy sits down with host Jessie Browning to talk about taking control. She shares her experience recognizing the role alcohol played in her life and how she knew it was time to let it go for good. Hear her story of transitioning from chiropractic doctor to stay-at-home mom as she shares her passion for health and the platform she's creating for women like her.

Episode Timeline: * [00:03] Intro * [00:45] Meet Wendy Slinkard * [03:36] The moment her life changed * [08:02] Quietly committing to herself and sobriety * [11:33] Getting to her moment of clarity * [17:15] Alcohol, coping and getting close to the bottom * [19:07] The mommy culture dilemma * [25:21] What has been working * [30:23] Choosing to step away from her chiropractic work * [32:43] Creating a platform for health and lifestyle * [40:52] What she learned about alcohol and sugar * [53:05] Cutting out sugar * [59:24] Why you don't need a rock bottom * [1:01:19] Contacting Wendy Slinkard * [1:03:07] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * This Naked Mind * Quit Like A Woman

Standout Quotes: * "It didn't have to get to this nasty, big bomb of a bottom. Like, it can be enough that it's a problem without that. -Jessie Browning[20:16] * "You have to accept that you're going to be going against the social norms and it's going to make people uncomfortable and that's still something I struggle with." -Wendy Slinkard [57:06] * "You just have to get sick and tired of your own crap. You know? Sick and tired of being sick and tired." -Wendy Slinkard [1:00:06] * Even bigger than giving up this or that, it's gotta be so much more than that. It's gotta be more about finding your own identity and going for that despite what other people might think. -Wendy Slinkard [1:00:44]

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Jessie and her husband Daniel are small business owners. For the last 13 years they have worked through 4 pregnancies, put in late nights, lots of weekends, and many countless sacrifices to keep their laundromat and coffee shop open for people for 363 days a year. Their mission is to help customers have a great day by starting off with good coffee.

The COVID - 19 pandemic has forced them stay on top of directives and keep pivoting. They made changes to reduce the spread of the disease by creating online menu and payment options and door collection but for the greater good they had to close one of their shops.

When a business closes so does its income but the expenses are still there, they couldn't leave out their employees in times of crisis. Daniel's habit of being prepared for the worse was an asset in times like this. His preparedness helped him to secure a loan and works things out quickly so that they had the money to pay overheads for 2.5 months. With the help of the PPP loan, they were able to re-open their closed location.

Also, they are parents of 4 children and with the lockdown came a new challenge of taking care of their kids and also working on their other businesses that can run irrespective of outside situations.

Listen in as their share how they saved their business and how they are managing their work-life balance when the whole family is staying home.

Episode Timeline:

[01:20] Intro

[02:04] New Merch!!

[03:55] Podcast schedule

[05:40] Meet Jessie's Husband Daniel

[08:03] The start of our business life

[11:00] How COVID - 19 came into our lives

[14:43] Transitioning things to stop COVID infections(the new normal)

[19:43] Taking care of our employees

[24:50] Stopping the bleeding

[26:47] How did we know what to do? There is nobody to call.

[29:32] 13 years no break

[31:16] Rewards of an entrepreneur? Making the world a better place

[33:45] Navigating out of the financial panic storm (PPP loan)

[40:55] Importance of doing things the right way

[44:00] Managing work and kids

[51:50] Running the family like a company

[55:30] Mother's role in maintaining mental health

[57:27] Working as a Family

[01:03:00] Isolation in entrepreneurship

[01:07:46] Outro

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I wanna know where did you learn this? Who told you how to do this? How did we know what to do?- Jessie Browning [26:47]

We are at a point where we had our business open for the last 13 years, I still remember being pregnant and walking into work, opening the back window and throwing out and then washing my hands, wiping my face and flipping the sign to Open! and then unlocking the door and I remember having our children in there and I remember you working late at nights and constant sacrifices - Jessie Browning [30:04]

All of them are dealing with their own loss of normal, difficult routines and emotions for them to understand for them- Daniell Browning [47:30]

I see dudes are drinking beer at the end of the day cause they are tired from a long day of work, I do have a glass of beer at the end of my work but I personally like to use that as my excuse of not doing the work to help the family is because I had that time and I am very cautious of that I am aware and at a personal level when I hear something like.. Oh, yea my wife is struggling with the homeschooling, it upsets me. No its not just your wife's job - Daniel Browning [58:40]

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Thriving in your role as a step-mom can be a real challenge even for the best of us. For Jennie Herm, hitting a wall in her attempts to help raise her two young stepsons set her off on a journey to the kind of breakthrough most stepmoms dream of.

Living and working off of a 1200 acre cotton farm in Texas with her husband and two stepchildren, Jennie followed conventional wisdom and poured herself into treating her two bonus kids the same way she had treated her daughter— like her own. However, she quickly learned that conventional wisdom isn't one size fits all.

Listen in as she shares her journey to defining her own role. Hear about how she's developed a relationship with the mother of her stepchildren and how stepping back helped her embrace who she was meant to be.

Episode Timeline: * [00:46] Intro * [1:26] Meet Jennie Herm * [03:19] Creating a denim business with her husband * [05:32] Her pivot point as a stepmom * [08:45] Hitting the bottom * [12:27] Why "treat them as your own" is a setup * [15:36] Developing a relationship with the mother of her stepchildren * [17:56] Letting go of a role that wasn't hers * [20:09] Her eagle moment and finally feeling seen * [32:13] Loving with more integrity * [34:24] Empowering her partner and avoiding creating an at-fault parent * [39:23] Eagle behavior * [42:59] The tools she uses to maintain * [45:03] Connecting with Jenny * [46:34] Her new step-mom slogan * [47:23] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Allred Farms

Standout Quotes: * "In all fairness to their mother, I'd taken on a role that wasn't mine and it wasn't fair to her." -Jennie Herm [14:51] * "I was making myself small in my relationship to them by thinking that I had to throw myself at them all of the time and that they needed to see me. And really, the big way to be an eagle in this situation is to step back and just be an eagle and nobody's not going to see you and your efforts are not going to go unnoticed." -Jennie Herm [31:45] * "Trying to be seen by other people just doesn't work. It's got to be a mirror. Who knew." -Jessie Browning [39:53]

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When Lynna Foster came out as gay to her husband, family, and friends at the age of 45, she was on the tail end of a journey to reclaim her identity.

Today, living in her truth, she joins Jessie to talk digging deep, welcoming vulnerability and becoming Lynna. Hear how she took apart her identity to uncover her gifts, passions, and purpose as a healer and guide. She shares the vision and mission behind her business, Return to Your Wild, a company she's founded to help other women to tap into their own authenticity.

Listen in to hear about her experience, growth, and lessons learned. And find out how breaking down all that she knew, allowed her to become more than she ever imagined.

Episode Timeline: * [00:00] Intro * [01:40] Meet Lynna Foster * [05:34] Finding herself and writing her story * [09:35] Realizing she had un-become herself * [11:53] Religion, spirituality and taking apart her identity * [14:49] Tapping into her power * [21:22] Exploring her sexuality * [26:20] Opening up to the world * [28:11] Coming out with support from her family and partner * [33:37] How living authentically healed her physically * [35:38] Her work before becoming a healer and how she found Bowenwork therapy * [42:12] Founding Return to Your Wild * [48:43] Why the world needs your authenticity * [50:09] Finding Lynna Foster and Return to Your Wild * [52:00] Outro

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Coping through a global pandemic can feel a little less unsettling when you start to realize, we're all in this together.

Callie Wylie of The Nutrition Rookie Podcast and Prickly and Blooming host Jessie Browning, dive into an honest conversation about what life has been like since COVID-19 took hold. They share what they're doing to stay sane and how they're adjusting to a new normal. They talk about everything from the pressures to be hyper productive to how tasks like grocery shopping have shifted their perspectives. Hear why taking what they need and getting rid of what you don't is more important now than ever.

Episode Timeline: * [00:00] Intro * [02:21] COVID-19's impact on Callie Wylie's life * [04:42] How Jessie has been affected by the pandemic * [13:01] Finding a new normal and avoiding productivity pressure * [17:46] What they're having a hard time with * [22:19] Making a sanity list and finding things that fill you up * [26:44] Giving yourself grace when you lose your routine * [29:37] Grocery shopping, gaining perspective and increasing gratitude * [36:42] What they're surprisingly excelling at in this time * [45:57] Leaning into passion projects * [50:50] Taking what they need and getting rid of what they don't * [53:45] Holding space for nurses, healthcare workers and the sick * [55:19] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * The Nutrition Rookie Podcast * Article: Why You Should Ignore All That Coronavirus-Inspired Productivity Pressure

Standout Quotes: * "Having time is not the same as having capacity." [12:16] * "For some people, this is a sprinkle and for some people, this is a hurricane. If you're in a sprinkle, you do you. But, don't forget this is a hurricane for some people." -Jessie [28:27] * "Understanding what you can eliminate right now and understanding what you need to keep your soul filled is so important... Take what you need and get rid of things you don't." -Callie [51:00]

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Hiral Patel knew she was onto something big the moment she realized she was failing at living someone else's dream. Shortly after, when she found her body failing too— a cancer diagnosis became her pivot point.

Today, Hiral joins Jessie to share how she developed a relationship with her mental and physical health in spite of the pull of cultural obligation. Hear how she found a passion for healing and development through yoga and her work as an occupational therapist. Find out how she was able to bridge generational trauma and create a path for connection by focusing on her well being, pouring into her spirit and uncovering dreams of her own.

Episode Timeline: * [00:00] Intro * [00:48] Meet Hiral Patel * [02:43] Her pre-wakeup call: Failing out of school * [04:53] Her wakeup call: Hodgkin's Lymphoma * [11:26] Living according to the expectations of others * [16:40] Remission and restructuring her life * [18:45] Getting in the gym and starting yoga * [20:39] Making changes to her diet * [22:12] Becoming a yoga teacher * [24:21] Shifting her spiritual awareness * [25:22] Occupational therapy * [31:16] Combing occupational therapy and yoga * [36:17] Being seen by her family * [40:53] The ripple effect * [41:53] Uncovering a desire to coach * [44:23] Bridging the gap between culture and freedom in the U.S * [47:30] Finding Hiral Patel * [50:41] Finding Lajoie Society * [51:23] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Medical Medium * Lajoie Society Recommendations

Standout Quotes: * "Keep achieving, keep achieving... It was fascinating because that was where my love came from. That's how I felt love, through being successful and achieving, getting good grades, listening to my parents and doing what I was told to do." [14:31] * "When you start to do your personal growth and your work, its a direct tie and a direct link to your energy and your ancestral lines. You start clearing that path." -Hiral Patel [38:01] * "It's such a blessing... that I've been chosen to be with the type of parents that I've had since birth. Because God or the universe saw this opportunity for them to heal and for me to grow and transform." -Hiral Patel [38:26]

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Real estate broker and serial entrepreneur Jackie Wickens' life hasn't always been pretty— but her fight to create opportunities and provide for her family have brought her to the other side changed for the better.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Jackie jumps into a conversation with Jessie about her life's two major pivots. She shares her experience struggling with finances early in her marriage and overcoming monumental obstacles on her journey to self-care. Find out how she survived navigating a life that seemed to be on the brink of collapse— all while building a career and businesses she can rely on today.

Episode Timeline: * [00:00] Intro * [00:47] Meet Jackie Wickens

JACKIE'S STORY

• [01:49] Her two-stage life pivot
• [05:03] Getting started in real estate
• [07:46] Receiving a foreclosure notice while 8months pregnant
• [09:13] Her father's health scare
• [13:07] Putting on blinders and taking care of her family
• [16:32] Getting more opportunities and to doing Mountain Mamas

FINALLY TAKING A BREATH

• [18:48] Her next breaking point
• [23:09] Finding a soulmate friend Trecie Wheat Hughes
• [25:31] Switching the focus and Identifying the work she needed to do

HEALING

• [31:23] Yoga, acupuncture, EMDR and self-care
• [37:45] Counseling and energy work
• [42:39] Tools that work
• [45:30] Covid-19 and putting the world on pause
• [48:47] Starting a new E-business and what's up next
• [51:59] Contacting Jackie
• [53:36] Bottom line
• [54:53] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * JackieandTrecie.com * Mountain Mamas * Live From The Divide

Standout Quotes: * "I remember sitting on my couch going, 'how is this my fucking life? how is this my life?" -Jackie Wickens [13:34] * "I work myself to the bone of pure exhaustion cause I didn't want to go back to that place. ... The only way I could do it was to basically put the blinders on and numb out everything and I feel like I didn't feel anything for like 3 years. Cause if you slowed down are you going to be able to get up and keep going? Because I was so fucking tired. And I just didn't want to go back." -Jackie Wickens [14:49] * "In the 1950s when we got all these housewives, that expectation of women doesn't seem to have changed now that we are picking up most of the workload." -Jackie Wickens [18:20] * "That shift of just having someone in my business like Trecie, that I trust and she's like a soulmate friend to me... realizing I had a best friend and someone who thoroughly understood my life...that was like the first big shift for me." -Jackie Wickens [23:37] * "Whatever it takes, try it, do it. If it doesn't work okay, do something else... Deal with your shit though. Like one way or another, you're gonna be a better mom, a better wife, you're gonna feel better. You're gonna connect to others around you more. Whatever it takes, it's worth it." -Jackie Wickens [37:24] * "Everybody gets to where they are and has their hurdles and we all go through it and you're not alone. Take care of yourself, damn it." -Jackie Wickens [54:40]

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Serena Bennett's fairytale romance offered little foreshadowing of the divorce she would have to navigate in her 30's with a young child. But today, after enduring the storm, she's made it to the other side with some wisdom to share.

Joining Jessie in conversation today on the Prickly and Blooming podcast, Serena opens up about the struggle that came with having to reimagine her life mid-way through the story. Hear how she not only endured but found a way to thrive after the trauma of an affair. Diving deep into her story of leaning into healing she didn't know she was in need, Serena opens up about discovering a more authentic, fulfilled version of herself.

Episode Timeline:

• [00:47] Intro
• [01:14] Serena Bennett on thriving after a divorce
• [07:10] Looking back
• [09:18] Getting stuck in the grieving cycle
• [11:56] Finding her authentic self
• [15:10] Realizing she was depressed for the majority of her life
• [20:43] Guilt in the wake of divorce and depression
• [27:46] Letting go of the anger
• [28:18] What not to say to someone in pain
• [31:09] Feel what you're feeling and redefining strength
• [33:48] We are the product of our childhood
• [37:19] Advice for women going through similar things
• [40:57] Finding opportunities to help others like her with psychiatry
• [46:17] Her relationship with perfectionism
• [53:52] Learning what to do with anger
• [1:00:38] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Rising Strong by Brené Brown * Dance of Anger by Harriet Lerner

Standout Quotes: * "Being seen has to start here, [with yourself] and accepting all of it even all the shit all the bad times. When we hide them and we hide what we think we should be shameful about, we're not even presenting ourselves to ourselves, so how are you going to show it to your husband if you're not even letting yourself see it." -Jessie Browning [23:43] * "I can tell you that the most powerful turning points that I've had in this journey have been when I do sort of finally give up this insider knowledge, this thing that I've been grappling with in my mind... It really allows finally for that opening to then be filled with something better. You open that wound and boom- something better fills it up." -Serena Bennett [26:11] * "Typically as women as mothers, we want to be that idolized version of 'oh i don't know how she does it.' Asking for help is a completely vulnerable thing because you're admitting that you can't do it alone." -Serena Bennett [32:09]

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What's the difference between joy and happiness? Figuring out the answer to that question could make a huge difference in how you and your family experience the world.

In today's episode, listen in as Jessie breaks down what she's figured out about joy. She shares the lessons she's learned from insights shared by Dr. Brene Brown to observations of her own kids. If you thought you were the only one struggling with feeling undeserving of the moments of bliss that come your way— you're wrong. Find out why Jessie thinks joy is as equally terrifying as it is inspiring and what you can do to live in it honestly.

Episode Timeline * [00:33] Intro * [03:35] The origins of Lajoie Society: Finding and feeling joy * [07:09] The difference between happiness and joy * [09:11] A lesson from my child and understanding the dimensions of joy * [12:56] Where joy trips me up and overwhelms me * [19:59] Comments questioning the price of joy * [21:12] Foreboding joy- thoughts from Brene Brown * [24:29] Leaning into gratitude- Neil Pasricha and 1,000 Awesome Things * [28:34] My own gratitude practice * [32:26] Being aware and combating privilege * [33:41] A dinner-time gratitude practice * [35:35] Feeling undeserving of joy and a fear of success * [39:29] Doing the work and starting to process joy * [42:28] Connect * [42:50] Outro

Resources Mentioned: * Gratitude App * 1,000 Awesome Things * Dr. Brené Brown on Joy

Standout Quotes: * "Happiness is a destination and joy it seems like, is the journey. You know? And of course what's more sustainable? Maybe it's different for you but what I want to aspire to is the joy. The feeling of well being, success and contentment." [07:57] * "You can cultivate your attitude and your journey and you can make it what you want. But, happiness is kind of something you experience." [08:41] * "I don't want to participate in a toxic positivity... the good vibes only kind of mindset is really invalidating and difficult to people with mental health issues. That diminishes their experience and their feelings." [11:54]

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When Trecie Wheat Hughes found herself sprinting in a parking lot before the sun had risen, she was on track to regain her life.

In this episode of Prickly and Blooming, Trecie sits down with Jessie and talks about her path to sobriety and happiness. Opening up about her motivations for treatment and journey to acceptance and forgiveness, they talk about everything from toxic relationships to defining success. Find out how she put in the work, rebuilt her career and what she's looking forward to in the future.

Episode Timeline: * [00:01] Intro * [00:38] Trecie Wheat Hughes on hitting rock bottom at 32 * [04:15] Starting treatment * [05:19] Life and her career up to that point * [08:59] Marrying the bad boy and developing low self-esteem * [13:02] The trip to treatment

RECOVERY

• [15:27] Feeling like she was going to be something again
• [18:38] Wanting to be better for her family and her dog
• [20:23] Learning from the mistakes of others and A.A

RE-BUILDING

• [21:29] Re-starting after treatment and Re-connecting
• [23:43] New Places: Moving to Montana
• [25:15] Falling back in love and sober motherhood
• [26:48] Continuing with A.A and developing her relationship with God.
• [28:54] The value of A.A and creating authentic relationships
• [29:55] Realizing the alcohol was a symptom

THRIVING

• [33:30] What Trecie does to maintain it all
• [36:19] Accepting flaws and imperfection
• [39:38] Life today, HGTV & Mountain Mamas
• [43:46] Riding the current & upcoming Do the Work Tours
• [46:52] Defining success and embracing failure
• [49:02] Hindsight and making things better
• [50:15] Contacting Trecie
• [51:2]6 Outro

Resources Mentioned: * JackieandTrecie.com * Mountain Mamas * Girl, Wash Your Face by Rachel Hollis

Standout Quotes: * "I sat down on a sidewalk in New York City all by myself with nothing, not even my self-respect... It was like the world was going by and I was just frozen." [02:36] * "Magical things happened every single day because I could see them again." [21:22] * "You can take a deep breath and be like, 'this is just a part of my experience.' but is not just my experience, it's part of the human experience. On different levels and for different reasons." [39:24] * "If you don't try something then you can't fail. Maybe failure should be our goal. [47:57]

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Jessie Browning is joined by Laura Wall in this episode. Laura Wall holds certifications in coaching, personal training, and nutritional and emotional healing but considers herself an intuitive healer who addresses the whole person, mind, body, heart, and soul. Through her work in speaking, teaching, and coaching, Laura is passionate about empowering women to live up to their potential, embracing their truth, building their superpowers, and chasing their joie.

Laura, only a few years ago, was at a place of great discomfort; all her familiar places of normalcy left her feeling empty and unsure. Somehow, in her progression from being a young woman who was ‘going places,' she had become a middle-aged lady without a destination, a map, or even any gas to go somewhere. This is how Laura's transformation story began. Listen to this amazing episode and be inspired by her journey to rediscover herself and how it lead her to help other women connect to their authentic selves.

Key Takeaways

[2:38] Laura shares the moment when she thought: "This cannot be my life."

[7:15] Laura talks about how a friend offered her empathy instead of sympathy.

[11:45] Write down everything that you love to do.

[14:55] Laura connects with her intuition for the first time.

[19:01] "Your brain is exhausted."

[20:25] Someone gave Laura permission to not love every single part of her life.

[21:20] Laura started reconnecting with her family.

[26:40] Laura talks about her upbringing and all the coping mechanisms she had developed as a result.

[29:02] Burnout forces you to stop.

[31:51] Laura started a long rebuilding process.

[36:43] Laura recognized the joie bubbling out of her during a Zumba class.

[41.09] Learning how to support someone through the healing.

[45:23] Laura became a self-care ninja.

[48:43] Laura's primary focus for her coaching is women who are in business aiming to achieve a life with integration.

[51:47] The word inspired comes from "in spirit."

[52:30] Laura considers herself a community keeper.

[53:27] Transgenerational trauma.

[55:58] Aroma Freedom, a group for emotional healing; an intersection between psychology, neuroscience, and aromatherapy.

[59:53] Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique.

[1:01:53] Crystal Therapy.

[1:11:29] Yoga + Laughter = Healing.

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Jessie Browning welcomes Teresa King to this episode who shares her story of hardships and rough moments, how she faced them and how her life was transformed as a result. Teresa openly talks about the struggles of balancing life as a woman, covering many roles as a mother, a wife, and an independent lawyer. Teresa also shares how her biggest accomplishment has been sobriety and how this led to the discovery of new and healthier ways to cope and live her life in a more fulfilling way.

Key Takeaways:

[1:34] Teresa talks about her life and professional journey.

[3:29] Teresa shares that moment in her life where she realized a change was needed.

[14:18] Started seeing a new therapist.

[15:48] Teresa talks about suffering from workplace harassment.

[17:50] The hardest part of being a working mom.

[20:30] Learning how to set a boundary between work and home.

[23:30] When being a wife has taken the back seat.

[24:50] Teresa talks about her greatest accomplishment: Her sobriety.

[32:30] Becoming sober and joining Weight Watchers at the same time.

[36:32] Finding new ways to cope.

[42:05] A mindful, lawyer, mom in Lousiana.

[43:15] The preconceptions about yoga.

[44:45] Teresa's plans for the future.

[47:20] When you are your own boss, the opportunities are endless.

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In this episode, Jessie Browning goes deep into how it feels to be seen, unseen, and noticed, exploring the differences between these different feelings and giving her life story as an example of growth and transformation. Jessie shares openly and unapologetically how it felt to hide for many years of her life, feeling lonely and unauthentic, to actually acknowledging the pain and suffering, and dare to share her true self with the world.

Key Takeaways:

[2:12] The meaning of "Frenema."

[6:45] Jessie finds out her first episode was not available on a very special day for the promotion of her podcast.

[9:21] Jessie asks her audience "When did they feel the most seen and the most unseen?"

[15:28] Jessie finds the inspiration she was seeking in an article Tanya Geisler had written.

[18:03] Jessie shares her own story about being seen.

[23:01] How lonely and unauthentic hiding can feel.

[25:20] The experience of living in a small town and the dichotomy of not being seen but being noticed.

[26:02] By nature, mothers are pretty unseen.

[27:25] The tree metaphor about Motherhood.

[29:02] Jessie talks about how as a mother she used to be the one that was seeing everybody else but not feeling seen.

[30:25] When someone is trying so hard to see everyone else they are often not seeing something about themselves.

[32:14] Jessie talks about how she decided to go through a photoshoot of herself as a present to her husband for his birthday.

[37:40] Email or message Jessie your thoughts and feelings about being seen.

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Jessie Browning is joined today by Brea Burke, who is the owner and director of a yoga studio named Yoga San Angelo. Brea openly shares her life journey; how her upbringing had an impact on how she dealt with her emotions and ultimately led her to choose to make a radical shift, stopping unhealthy patterns and reinventing herself for her own spiritual, personal and physical health as well as to provide her children the modeling she would like to have had as a child.

Listen to this episode for a truly inspirational story about a real woman facing and embracing boldly the circumstances life presented to her and in the process meeting her full potential.

Key Takeaways:

[1:30] Brea introduces herself and the development of Yoga San Angelo.

[4:30] The moment that shifted Brea's life course.

[8:10] Brea talks about how she realized, after quitting alcohol, that she had been feeling anxiety her entire life.

[10:04] How numbing your feelings leads to losing your spirit.

[11:54] Our upbringing, relationships, and environment mold our character as adults.

[14:36] We come into this world as a seed spirit.

[20:50] When you haven't learned how to trust yourself, you can't fully trust others.

[26:05] Brea shares how she realized that her marriage was not working.

[31:06] Brea decided to stop drinking in 2015.

[39:33] Brea talks about how her connection to a higher force was the support she needed to go through the toughest moments in her life.

[42:23] Embrace life moment by moment.

[44:03] Brea shares how the connection with nature has been helping her on a daily basis.

[47:58] Brea talks about religion and its impact on humanity.

[49:40] Turning passion into a business.

[51:58] As a society we are so disconnected that it is hard to find the connection to ourselves and to others.

[54:52] Yoga San Angelo is a space where you can openly be who you want to be.

[55:37] Jessie talks about her own yoga transformation.

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Jessie Browning welcomes Callie Wylie to this episode. Callie had been struggling with her weight, body image and health story for years. Two years ago, she decided it was time to give back the knowledge she had gained from figuring out her own health journey.

Callie has a certificate for Nutrition Coaching from Precision Nutrition and hosts The Nutrition Rookie Podcast.

In this awesome conversation, Callie shares her life experience, from struggling with her health and divorcing in her 20s to cleaning up her life from toxic relationships, learning to identify her emotions, and pursuing her life and health goals.

Key Takeaways:

[1:26] Callie talks about her website, podcast, and her nutrition project: The Nutrition Rookie.

[5:05] Callie shares how she started her health journey.

[10:50] The path that led Callie to the point in her life where she realized she needed to change her life to meet her health and to feel aligned with her values.

[16:02] Announcing a divorce on social media.

[20:28] Callie talks about how she signed up for a half marathon while struggling with her health.

[26:30] The stigma around being married.

[29:10] Callie finds how journaling helped her get her life and health back.

[33:18] Sometimes you need to clean up some people from your life: A Friend Enema!

[36:40] Callie shares how she became a Nutrition Coach and dared to create The Nutrition Rookie.

[43:44] Emotions and weight loss journeys are intertwined.

[44:36] Callie talks about emotional eating.

[49:26] Monthly coaching sessions with Callie at The Nutrition Rookie.

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Welcome to the first episode of Prickly and Blooming Podcast, with your hostess Jessie Browning. At age 35, Jessie theoretically adored her life; she was a mama to 4 children and owned multiple businesses with her husband. But without an ability to cope or care for herself, an isolating darkness crept in. Through reckless self care, therapy, and lots of candor; Jessie found her joie again. She has created Lajoie Society to embolden others to do the same. Each week we will meet a woman who has an authentic story to share. Undoubtedly, Jessie will be sharing her big heart, unusual life, and countless theories with you along the way.

Key Takeaways

[1:02] Jessie shares about how she met her husband in My Space years ago.

[3:02] Having four children in a wild succession.

[4:57] Jessie talks about her passionate motivation to start this podcast.

[6:30] The meaning behind the names: Prickly and Blooming and Lajoie Society.

[7:41] The significance of the cactus to Jessie: thorns and flowers, joy and pain, all needs to be celebrated.

[9:33] Who are going to be guests on this podcast? "Regular" women that have something to share to help move, inspire and motivate other women.

[11:01] Jessie opens up about her story and the pain that lead to her joy.

[16:58] Facing shame and guilt, trying unsuccessfully to "forget about it".

[18:30] Jessie promised herself she will never be drunk again.

[20:37] Jessie decided to take back her body, losing weight, exercising and not drinking that much.

[23:11] Yoga set Jessie's heart on fire.

[26:30] Starting a food log and learning about the right nutrition choices.

[30:05] The moment Jessie decided to be a stay-at-home Mom.

[31:48] Jessie experiencing losing herself and questions her roles and identity.

[32:19] Drinking to cope was not suitable anymore.

[33:47] How yoga and meditation brought Jessie up into her physical and mental strength.

[34:45] Jessie found a therapist that lead her into the problem that was holding her back.

[36:50] Starting EMDR sessions (Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing Therapy)

[38:32] You don't need to suffer alone.

[39:25] Share your story and that can change the life of others.

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Jessie Browning receives Amie Folkman as a guest for this awesome episode.

Amie is a brave, resilient woman that is not afraid of opening up about the struggles she went through. Amie and her husband went through many miscarriages, which ended in her having to have a hysterectomy and starting to consider adoption, which wasn't an easy road either that lead to another frustration.

In today's episode, Amie dives deep into the obstacles, the grieving and the reinvention of her life with the support of therapy, medication, and most of all, the unconditional love of her husband, family and friends.

Amie shares in this thoughtful conversation, how she became a life coach, building her self up while helping others, and delivers her knowledge about fundamental life skills, emotional intelligence and how to lead a purposeful life.

Key Takeaways

[1:19] Amie shares a defining moment that shifted the course of her life.

[4:55] Amie faces the decision of having a hysterectomy.

[6:02] Amie and her husband get ready for adopting.

[7:28] Amie shares how she fell into depression and was misdiagnosed with bipolar disorder.

[9:32] How does endometriosis work?

[13:02] Amie talks about her experience transiting several miscarriages.

[15:30] Moving forward doesn't mean you are dealing with what is bothering you.

[16:35] The moment when Amie realized she needed help.

[20:10] Amie shares how she found in therapy the support she needed to change her life.

[27:45] Amie talks about her family.

[31:48] Amie's husband confesses he thought about leaving her, Amie shares how she came to realize it would have been the lack of awareness of her own emotions the main reason for him to leave.

[35:30] Jessie and Amie talk about the normalization of alcohol consumption.

[39:20] The three things that shifted Amie ́s life.

[44:11] If it is not a hell yes! It's a no!

[50.10] Do you truly believe that the people around you are giving their best?

[53:31] The crucial importance of healthy boundaries.

[55:29] You look for validation when you are not feeling great about your own performance.

[58:41] We are here to serve humanity.

[1:00:39] Journaling as a healing tool.

[1:03:38] How do you know you are healed?

[1:09:01] When you open yourself up to the things that suck and the trauma that you went through, you can truly find joy in everything.

[1:11:20] The roles of the hero and the guide are equally important.

[1:13:32] Learn how to respond and not react.

[1:15:55] Amie applies her skills as a life coach at her job by welcoming emotions back into the workplace.

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No more tips, tricks, and lists. It's time to sit crooked and talk straight. Prickly and Blooming, brought to you by Lajoie Society, is a weekly conversational podcast hosted by Jessie Browning. Jessie is holding a flashlight on the path, to guide the way for other women to find their way out of the darkness. Our honest conversations about successes and failures, pain and joie, thorns and flowers; are meant to embolden listeners to create change in their own lives. Learn how to embrace your thorns as well as your flowers.