We are so pleased to have Matt, Berkeley Ward Bishop from 2008-2013 on our show today! Today’s chapter of American Zion, Showtime, 1995-2012, covers an important part of our Ward’s history, when Prop 8 was voted on in California to ban gay marriage. Matt talks about his experiences being a church leader at the time and provides some excellent inside info. Join us!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
The rise of the liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/
4.3 Liberal hair lengths (where we covered that article before)
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/43-liberal-hair-lengths/
2008 California Proposition 8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8
George Hugh Niederauer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hugh_Niederauer
The bit from Matt about $5k donations from stake presidents: this is inside info :)
Props to Obama, Did he help push California’s gay-marriage ban over the top? By Farhad Manjoo
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/11/did-barack-obama-help-push-california-s-proposition-8-over-the-top.html?pay=1781372928803&support_journalism=please
The Root: The Misjudged Black Vote On Gay Marriage, by David Kaufman
https://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134257733/the-root-the-misjudged-black-vote-on-gay-marriage
Prop 8 Protesting Turns Ugly, by Will Frampton
https://web.archive.org/web/20110608063501/http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50266
November 2015 policy change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#November_2015_policy_change
Prop 8: The Musical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o
"8": A Play about the Fight for Marriage Equality
https://www.youtube.com/live/qlUG8F9uVgM
3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/
We felt “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” deserved its own minisode, so join us as we take a modern look at this document, nearly wrapping up our tour of American Zion by Benjamin Park. Two more to go!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
The Family: A Proclamation to the World
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world
Raising Kids and Running a Household: How Working Parents Share the Load
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/
Almost 1 in 5 stay-at-home parents in the U.S. are dads
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/
The Proclamation on Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family:_A_Proclamation_to_the_World
More from Melissa Inouye
https://substack.com/profile/180982606-melissa-inouye
The Plan and the Proclamation, by Elder (now President) Dallin H. Oaks
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2017/10/the-plan-and-the-proclamation
The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks. This is a more recent talk that also mentions the proclamation. It also includes talk of President Oaks’ own family, including his father.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks
“There Is Always a Struggle”: An Interview with Chieko N. Okazaki, by Gregory A. Prince
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/there-is-always-a-struggle-an-interview-with-chieko-n-okazaki/
Source of Eric’s quote about W. H. Pugmire
https://lordbassingtonbassington.blogspot.com/2009/12/queen-of-eldritch-horror.html
My AMV interview with the Queen of Eldritch Horror, by Eric Jepson
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2010/02/my-amv-interview-with-queen-of-eldritch.html
New York Doll (2005)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/
In the 1970s, Leonard Arrington formed an enclave of church scholars and historians that had such an open attitude of research and discovery that they called it Camelot. By the early 90s, attitudes had shifted greatly against these “so-called” intellectuals, and not just them but also feminists and LGBTQ groups. The road from Camelot had many twists and turns. Join us as we read the next chapter of American Zion, “Fault Lines, 1970-1995.”
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
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Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Leonard J. Arrington
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington
Likely the quote about false robes of the priesthood is not Packer but Nibley?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjE2Ks38uE&t=1s
September Six
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Six
For more info on President Oak’s comments on religious freedom and past and present policies, see Nathan Oman’s book!
Living Oracles: Law and the Latter-day Saint Tradition, by Nathan B. Oman
https://www.amazon.com/Living-Oracles-Latter-day-Saint-Tradition/dp/0197825818
He also gave a talk recently!
https://vimeo.com/1171661828
Lester E. Bush Jr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_E._Bush_Jr.
The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf
Zootopia Exposed! (Part Two)
https://overcast.fm/+AA5IlBTodVE
LDS Genesis Group
https://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/
Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich
Carol Lynn Pearson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Lynn_Pearson
Fascinating Womanhood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood
The God Makers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Makers
Saturday’s Warrior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior
Added Upon: A Story, by Nephi Anderso
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1508762.Added_Upon
Moral Majority
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority
Woman’s Exponent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman%27s_Exponent
Exponent II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent_II
Equal Rights Amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment
Solus, by Anonymous
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/solus/
“Well behaved women rarely make history”, quote by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich#.22Well-behaved_women_seldom_make_history.22
A House Full of Females, by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_House_Full_of_Females
Phyllis Schlafly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly
Sonia Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Johnson
Crossing the Rubicon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Rubicon
The Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_Forgiveness
The band Eric mentioned, fronted by Amy Gileadi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunfall_Festival
Margaret Merrill Toscano work on Dialogue
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-journal-authors/margaret-merrill-toscano/
Strengthening Church Members Committee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strengthening_Church_Members_Committee
End of the year show! We cover topics from the tail end of the Doctrine and Covenants that have been kicking around in our heads. We’ll be back next year continuing with more of American Zion!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Berkeley Ward Centennial
https://berkeleyward.org/100/
D&C 135
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/135?lang=eng
Praise to the Man, Hymn 27
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng
Original lyrics of Praise to the Man
https://bhroberts.org/records/6kQ26b-UhyHjb/lyrics_to_joseph_smith_praise_to_the_man_originally_published_in_1844
More on the conspiracy against Joseph being infiltrated in the book Saints:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1/43-a-public-nuisance?lang=eng#p21
Joseph and Emma Grow Old Together, by Eric Jepson
https://lit.mormonartist.net/2018/06/joseph-and-emma-grow-old-together-by-eric-jepson/
Culprit (single) by LOYAL WIFE. Check this out, it’s awesome!
https://sunsetalliance.bandcamp.com/album/culprit-single
Official Declaration 1
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng
The Messenger and the Manifesto, by Jed Woodworth
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-messenger-and-the-manifesto?lang=eng
Episode 1.8, Polygamy’s Ghost
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/
Seminary manual, Doctrine and Covenants 132:1–2, 34–66, Plural Marriage
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-seminary-teacher-manual-2025/453-doctrine-and-covenants-132-1-2-34-66?lang=eng
Polygamy google search
https://www.google.com/search?q=was+polygamy+a+commandment+lds
Newsroom link: Polygamy: Latter-day Saints and the Practice of Plural Marriage
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/polygamy-latter-day-saints-and-the-practice-of-plural-marriage
Fanny Alger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Alger
Lots of details on Fanny Alger on fairlatterdaysaints.org:
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Joseph_Smith/Polygamy/Plural_wives/Fanny_Alger/Discovered_in_a_barn
Encouraging Joseph Smith to Practice Plural Marriage: The Accounts of the Angel with a
Drawn Sword, by Brian C. Hales
https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Encouraging-Joseph-Smith-to-Practice-Plural-Marriage-The-Accounts-of-the-Angel-with-a-Drawn-Sword.pdf
Statement on Polygamy by Brian C. Hales
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/testimonies/scholars/brian-c-hales
Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Elizabeth_Rollins_Lightner
A note about “Father, Mother, Mother, and Mom”, Orson Scott Card’s musical about polygamy, is on his wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card_bibliography#Plays
A pdf version is available!
https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/006-f1-f16.pdf
Pop Culture on the Apricot Tree, a podcast dedicated to discussing pop culture from a Latter-day Saint perspective
https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/
Back to American Zion! Today we look at the chapter “One Family Under God”, 1945-70. Themes of civil rights, womanhood, and intellectualism are brought together as we look deeper at the post-WWII world of Mormonism!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Berkeley Ward Centennial
https://berkeleyward.org/100/
Sterling McMurrin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_M._McMurrin
Joseph Fielding Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fielding_Smith
Man, His Origin and Destiny, by Joseph Fielding Smith, is discussed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_views_on_evolution#Joseph_Fielding_Smith
J. Edward Johnson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edward_Johnson
Free Speech Movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement
Hugh Nibley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Nibley
No Man Knows My History, by Fawn M. Brodie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History
No, Ma'am, That's Not History, by Hugh Nibley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No,_Ma%27am,_That%27s_Not_History
The Mountain Meadows Massacre (1950) by Juanita Brooks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)
Mormon Doctrine (book), by Bruce R. McConkie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)
The Giant Joshua, by Maurine Whipple
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giant_Joshua
Too sacred for public consumption -or- Disgusting the prophet’s wife, by Eric Jepson
https://motleyvision.org/2009/07/09/too-sacred-for-public-consumption-or-disgusting-the-prophets-wife/
Eugene England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_England
Truman G. Madsen (includes note he directed the Berkeley LDS Institute of Religion)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_G._Madsen
Preliminary work from the author of the dissertation mentioned
https://latterdatasaints.org/author/elena/
Example, A Timeline of LDS Sunday School Manuals: 1972-Present, by Elena H. Call:
https://latterdatasaints.org/a-timeline-of-lds-sunday-school-manuals-1972-present/#more-1260
Elias: An Epic of the Ages, by Orson F. Whitney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias:_An_Epic_of_the_Ages
Short Creek raid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Creek_raid
The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf
Truth & Treason (2025 movie)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason
Zelophehad’s Daughters
https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/
Helen Andelin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Andelin
Fascinating Womanhood, by Helen Andelin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood
The Feminine Mystique, by Betty Friedan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique
The Stepford Wives (2004 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives_(2004_film)
Indian Placement Program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Placement_Program
The Night Watchman, by Louise Erdrich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watchman_(novel)
(atonement poem), by Theric Jepson
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/atonement-poem/
With the rest of the church we mourn the passing of President Nelson. In this show we look back on his life and we talk about the future, including chatting about President Oak’s October 2025 conference talk. The decision to focus on birthrates was interesting, so that prompted a deep dive, from Saturday’s Warrior to South Korea. Would love to hear your own takes!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
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Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
President Russel M. Nelson wiki
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson
President Russell M. Nelson on the Healing Power of Gratitude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i51gcWCs-Ho
An Interview With Gordon Hinckley by Mike Wallace
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/
President Dallin H. Oaks wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallin_H._Oaks
Carthage Conspiracy, by Dallin H. Oaks and Marvin S. Hill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_Conspiracy
Legal Eagle
https://www.youtube.com/legaleagle
Truth & Treason (2025 movie)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason
The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks
The End of Children, by Gideon Lewis-Kraus
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/03/03/the-population-implosion
Sex Without Women, What happens when men prefer porn? By Caitlin Flanagan
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/sex-without-women/682064/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6JS-14VnM4BwMPCcn3UgkUM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
What Women Wish They’d Known Before Trying to Get Pregnant. Many Americans lack basic fertility knowledge. More robust sex ed could help. By Olga Khazan
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/09/sex-ed-school-fertility/684079/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6N-IKckFrqX-zdDLAPsolPM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
Zero Population
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHlEYgiM08
Saturday's Warrior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior
The Population Bomb, by Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb
2.1 Millennial musings: this is our early take on overpopulation, and cites the first Kurzgesagt video
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/
Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348
Why Humans Are Vanishing, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ
SOUTH KOREA IS OVER, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk
We’re back from summer and let's keep this season going! Today we focus on Chapter 6, The Perils of Reform: 1920-1945, from Benjamin Park’s book: American Zion. Many threads connect the topics, but the contest between the modernity of the early part of the 20th century and resistance to change mark the struggle for the LDS church at this time. Join us!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Amy B. Lyman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman
D&C 29:34,”Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal”
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/29#34
J. Reuben Clark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark
Our David O’McKay season was actually season 3! Here’s an example episode, with topics on politics and such. 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/
John Birch Society
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
No wiki on Nephi Johnson, but lots of articles out there on him :)
Juanita Brooks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks
The Mountain Meadows Massacre (book)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)
3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/
3.11 Poetry, Spies, and the Church Education System
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/311-poetry-spies-and-the-church-education-system/
B. H. Roberts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts
Studies of the Book of Mormon, by B. H. Roberts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_of_the_Book_of_Mormon
“Now, if you mean it-I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want you to use any drug that creates an appetite for itself.” -Heber J Grant, April 1921
https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8061
Heber J Grant: stories of baseball and penmanship are here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_J._Grant
Welfare and Self Reliance
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/topic/welfare-and-self-reliance
Fawn M. Brodie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_M._Brodie
3.7 Tolerance: this might be the episode where we talked about David O’Mckay and Fawn Brodie
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/37-tolerance/
“$32 million deficit in 1962”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
Saints, Volume 3, Boldly, Nobly, and Independent, 1893–1955
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v3
The Mormon Typology: Mapping a Changing Faith
https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/the-mormon-typology-mapping-a-changing
Another Data Source Confirms Typology Findings
https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/multiple-data-sources-confirm-typology
Thubrina, by Theric Jepson
https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/thubrina/f0c86c78-3b42-35b0-afdf-40d6b81d25db.html
1890-1920 was a period of great progress among the LDS Saints but came with key compromises that began the assimilation of LDS culture and into the broader American people. Join us as we look at this era, continuing our trip through American Zion by Benjamin Park!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Letter to the Editor: Reconciliation and Truth, by Robert A. Rees
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-reconciliation-and-truth/
Jesus the Christ, by James E. Talmage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Christ_(book)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/jesus-the-christ?lang=eng
Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Faith_(Talmage_book)
The Great Apostasy, by James E. Talmage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Apostasy_(book)
The House of the Lord, by James E. Talmage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Lord
Ten Thousand, xkcd
http://xkcd.com/1053/
Jane Manning James (wiki article)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Manning_James
Jane Elizabeth Manning James (LDS article)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/jane-elizabeth-manning-james
Jane and Emma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_and_Emma
They stole Yogi Berra’s World Series rings. Then they did something really crazy, by Ariel Sabar
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/sports-memorabilia-heist-yogi-berra-world-series-rings/681093/
On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, by Timothy Snyder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny
Ephesians 2:19
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/eph/2?lang=eng&id=p19#p19
Seer stone (Latter Day Saints)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints)
D&C 138
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138
The Truth of a Dream: A Conversation with Theric Jepson, on the Dialogue Out Loud podcast
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-of-a-dream-a-conversation-with-theric-jepson/
I Dreamed of Oil, by Theric Jepson
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/i-dreamed-of-oil/
Run and hide! Today we jump into the 1870s and 80s to see what made our beloved ancestors be so eager to ditch the law and go underground. (Spoilers, it’s more polygamy!). Part of our ongoing series covering American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park!
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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
A Mormon Maid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mormon_Maid
Emmeline B. Wells
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells
Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/
Polygamy (Polygyny, Polyandry), by Miriam Koktvedgaard Zeitzen
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118924396.wbiea1377
Find Randy Astle on the AML Discord server! Eric can spot you an invite. AML:
https://www.associationmormonletters.org/
Polygamy, Racism and Indian affairs. These stories dominated Chapter 3 of American Zion by Benjamin E. Park, “Of empires and wars, 1846-69”. Come for the historical controversy but stay for the good vibes at the end!
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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Pioneer Children sang as they walk, words and music by: Elizabeth Fetzer Bates
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/pioneer-children-sang-as-they-walked
Legacy (1993)
https://youtu.be/TZALT-fK9Ao?si=vN-6uAZMRRW485dD
Walker Lewis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lewis
Chief Walkara
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkara
The Angel (2024), directed by Barrett Burgin, Jess Burgin
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-angel-2024/
Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/
Commentary: New LDS curriculum flops in teaching eternal polygamy to children, by Carol Lynn Pearson
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/13/new-lds-curriculum-flops-teaching/
Emmeline B. Wells
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells
(Aaron) Note the comment on Emmeline changing her mind was actually in relation to Emily Dow Partridge (note the redirects if you click on this link)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily%20Dow%20Partridge?redirect=no
Phoebe Pendleton Woodbury: not a lot of her online. Dr. Park is citing letters to her children
Into the Headwinds: Why Belief Has Always Been Hard―and Still Is, by Terryl Givens and Nathaniel Givens
https://a.co/d/59qRjS1
(Aaron) Couldn’t find the tiger roar/rattlesnake article :)
You are Two, by CGP Grey
https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=Z1qkIrKNMLMJL3K_
Episode 5.4 Agency and its opposition
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/54-agency-and-its-opposition/
Moroni: a brief theological introduction (The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions 12), by David F Holland
https://a.co/d/7lkNflh
After transcribing 1.2 million of his words, this researcher has something to say about Brigham Young, by Jacob Hess, about LaJean Purcell Carruth
https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/10/10/new-discoveries-about-brigham-young/
Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-brigham-young
Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/
“O My Father”, and the Council of Fifty! Let’s wrap up chapter 2 of “American Zion” in a quick show for the end of the year!
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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Eliza R. Snow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_R._Snow
“Invocation, or The Eternal Father and Mother” or “O my father”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_My_Father
Testimony in Art: John Hafen's Illustrations for “O My Father”, by Dawn Pheysey
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol36/iss1/5/
John Hafen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hafen
A Little Lower than the Angels, by Virginia Sorensen
https://www.amazon.com/Little-Angels-Signature-Morman-Classics/dp/1560851031
Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/
Hosea Stout
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Stout
Council of Fifty, Church History topic
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/council-of-fifty
Council of Fifty on wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Fifty
Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/
Part one of our journey through Chapter 2 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”, “The Voice of the People,1831-46.” This history is a rollercoaster of emotion! Also, we have just so many show notes. Check them out and be sure to join us on Discord!
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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Not a lot about Laura Hubble out there, but this Historical Introduction to D&C 43 seems relevant:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/church-historians-press/jsp-revelations/dc-043-1831_02_01_000
Peter Kerr (Black Pete)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kerr_(priest)
Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/
Carol Lynn Pearson, Radiant Mormonism Award, recorded by Paris Fox
https://vimeo.com/1018163129
Saints Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1
Century of Black Mormons
https://exhibits.lib.utah.edu/s/century-of-black-mormons/page/welcome
Missouri Executive Order 44
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44
Related to the ‘am I better for suffering’ section of the pod: Opinion | A man at work, A half century of George Will
https://wapo.st/4g7HdgJ
Quote: “In “The Roosevelts,” George, the conservative thinker, found empathy at the core of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. “Polio gave FDR the gift of empathy. There was no suffering that he could not in some sense relate to,” George explained. “Just as the irons were clapped on his legs, the steel entered his soul by having to fight through the constant pain of therapy that was unforgiving in its demands and not very fulfilling in its success.””
Episode 1.2 Theodicy and the Red Ball
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-2-theodicy-and-the-red-ball/
Not sure about the last Shaker Eric mentioned, but this is probably relevant: There Are Only Two Shakers Left. They’ve Still Got Utopia in Their Sights, by Jordan Kisner
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html
James 1: 5-6
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201%3A5-6&version=KJV
Tumult of opinions quote is from Joseph Smith - History:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1#p10
Oakland Stake First Vision Lecture Series - Eric Jepson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k
Wiki on Limbo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo
(Really enjoyed finding this -Aaron) Comparison of the texts of Doctrine and Covenants 76 and Joseph Smith’s poetic rendition of The Vision, Courtesy of Dr. Lawrence Flake from his book “Three Degrees of Glory”
https://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~clement/rel325/vision-poem.pdf
The Drowned World, by J. G. Ballard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drowned_World
Revised Plat of the City of Zion, circa Early August 1833
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revised-plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-august-1833/1
The Maine story might have been Vermont, see Building Zion: the controversial plan for a Mormon-inspired city in Vermont, by Claire Provost
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/31/building-zion-controversial-plan-mormon-inspired-city-vermont
Defunctland: Walt Disney's City of the Future, E.P.C.O.T.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYEXjMlKKQ
Wiki on the Book of Commands mentions the teenage sisters Caroline and Mary Elizabeth Rollins who saved the “remnants of nearly 100 copies” from an anti-Mormon fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Commandments
Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/
Welcome to season 7! We are starting by reviewing the Prologue and Chapter 1 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”. The first single volume history of the Church in over a decade, and taking advantage of new sources, it’s an excellent way to get some good old Mormon history. This was fun!
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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Parks and Recollection, with Jim O’Heir and Greg Levine
https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection
Saints, Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1
History of Joseph Smith by His Mother, by Lucy Mack Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Joseph_Smith_by_His_Mother
Thomas B. Griffith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Griffith
The Book of Mormon (musical)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_(musical)
Alexander Campbell (minister)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister)
Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber
https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/
James 1:5
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/james/1#p5
Burned-over district
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district
The Glass Looker: The Collected Tales of Joseph Smith, by Mark Elwood
https://theglasslooker.com/
Hero's journey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey
An Interview With Gordon Hinckley, by Mike Wallace (this includes the boat and garments story)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/
William Apess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Apess
Settle in for Movie Night! Aaron and Eric each picked movies that they argued had LDS or interesting religious themes. Do you agree or have other picks? Let us know on discord!
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The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas
https://web.archive.org/web/20050612235541/http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html
But hey, there is an LDS connection to George Lucas! From the article:
“Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist." Gary Kurtz, a Latter-day Saint who had studied Comparative Religion extensively in college and on his own, was pivotal in introducing Lucas to Eastern religions (particularly Buddhism) and Native American religion, and discussing with Lucas how best to improve "Star Wars" by giving it a believable but sufficiently universal religious underpinning. Kurtz was the producer of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" and also did some work on the "Star Wars" screenplay.”
Linked to from his wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas#Personal_life
Contact (1997 American film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)
https://www.amazon.com/Contact-Jodie-Foster/dp/B001AH6ZWY
Hercules (1997 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(1997_film)
https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ae19dd2f-a945-442b-a18e-d57fa8f5091f
Eastern Orthodox and Divinization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)#Eastern_Orthodox
Relevant older Face in Hat episode, “5.2 Divinization and Deity”:
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/
The Tree of Life (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(film)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B005UKJX4E
“Rituals themselves are actually very boring. They go on and on, beyond your secular tolerance” (The Power of Myth, by Joseph Campbell).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth
https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868
Quoted in Why Myth?, by John Bonaduce
https://www.jcf.org/post/why-myth
Aphasia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia
Aphantasia (includes the apple chart for degree of mental visualization)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia
Eric may have been referring to this podcast: “The human brain is hardwired to recognize faces. But what if you can't?”, by Emily Kwong, Rachel Carlson, and Rebecca Ramirez
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/1198910315/face-blindness-prosopagnosia-memory-aphantasia-sight-imagination
Fred Rogers Acceptance Speech - 1997, The Emmy Awards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM
Wreck-it Ralph 1 and 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph
https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-0cde80b0-5085-447b-b65e-c81a713a90f0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Breaks_the_Internet
https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-4f2c48ef-b3f9-4422-9feb-011a17ff2afb
The Official Disney Princess Rules, Explained, by Micaela Pérez Vitale and Samuel Cormier
https://movieweb.com/official-disney-princess-rules/
Navigating Mental Health Comedy with Conservative Parents, Taylor Tomlinson
https://www.tiktok.com/@taylortomlinsoncomedy/video/7288425135990770990
Shanghai Express (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Express_(film)
Coco (2017 film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film)
https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ce1ccdca-f468-4960-b67c-026b01ba42ab
Angels and Seerstones: A Latter Day Saint Folklore Podcast, by Christopher James Blythe and Christine Elyse Blythe
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/angels-and-seerstones-a-latter-day-saint-folklore-podcast/id1693940296
The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Princess_Kaguya_(film)
https://www.amazon.com/Tale-Princess-Kaguya-English-Language/dp/B0817R94P8
The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter
American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park
https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657
Today we chat about prophecy, the book of Jarom, and what it means for us to be living in the middle. We draw especially on Sharon J. Harris’s brief theological introduction to Enos, Jarom, Omni. Check it out!
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The Book of Jarom
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jarom/1
Enos, Jarom, Omni: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Sharon J. Harris
https://www.amazon.com/Enos-Jarom-Omni-theological-introduction/dp/0842500154
Wiki: patriarchal blessing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchal_blessing
Irreantum: Stories from the Blue Cherubim
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/21-2-top/
D&C 51:16-17, “…act upon this land as for years…”:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/51?id=p16-17#16
Tales from Pleasant Grove, by Steven L. Peck
https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Pleasant-Grove-Steven-Peck/dp/1986604233
No link to the Elder Holland story, it’s something Eric heard on the radio. If someone has a better reference, send it in!
The Hugh B. Brown story can be found in From the East: The History of the Latter-Day Saints in Asia, 1851-1996, by R. Lanier Britsch
https://www.amazon.com/East-History-Latter-Day-Saints-1851-1996/dp/1573452688
Living “as Though” God’s Promises Have Been Fulfilled, by Lori Newbold
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2022/02/living-as-though-gods-promises-have-been-fulfilled
The Path and the Gate: Mormon Short Fiction, edited by Andrew Hall, Robert Raleigh, with contribution from Eric Jepson
https://www.amazon.com/Path-Gate-Mormon-Short-Fiction/dp/1560854677
$1 in 1844 money is $41.64!
The Moneyball connection! Retroactively, Aaron remembered the song In Moneyball sung by Kerris Dorsey is a Lenka song, "The Show", which includes the line “I'm just a little bit caught in the middle”. Eh? Totally works!
The recent Worldwide Relief Society Devotional was awesome! One quote caused a bit of a kerfuffle, which sets the stage for part 3 of our series on women and priesthood. But the devotional really was great! Go watch it! And also listen to this episode :)
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Worldwide Relief Society Devotional
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/worldwide-relief-society-devotional-2024
Accessing God’s Power through Covenants, by J. Anette Dennis, First Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/language-recording/2024/02/14dennis
Midwife of The Wild Frontier, by Melissa Tyler (Author) and Luciana Maruca (Illustrator)
https://amzn.to/3PO0RUh
Instagram post with quote on women, power, and authority
https://www.instagram.com/churchofjesuschrist/p/C4oZ-otMOVL/
Twitter thread on YW fundraiser
https://twitter.com/sunday_southern/status/1770885870847250553
LDS Church gives more power to women than any other religious organization, leader declares, by Tamarra Kemsley
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/17/lds-church-gives-more-power-women/
The Emotional and Priestly Logic of Plural Marriage" (2009), by Kathleen Flake. Utah State University Press, Arrington Annual Lecture. Paper 15
https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/arrington_lecture/15
The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions Boxed Set, including Jacob: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Deidre Nicole Green
https://amzn.to/49rsnhp
Barred by Congress: How a Mormon, a Socialist, and an African American Elected by the People Were Excluded from Office, by Robert M. Lichtman
https://amzn.to/3Ufp3Sh
Credit, authority, the danger of hierarchies, and how Jewish whiskey relates to fiction, equity, and legislation. Join us in our second of a multipart series on women and the priesthood.
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A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens
https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/
Buying Jewish Whiskey, by Nate Oman
https://www.wayfaremagazine.org/p/buying-jewish-whiskey
The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy, by David Graeber
https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Rules-Technology-Stupidity-Bureaucracy/dp/1612195180
Pop culture on the apricot tree, ep 39 - Indiana Jones, Lapsed Latter-day Saint?, hosts Liz Busby and Carl Cranney, guests Matt Bowman and Megan Harris
https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/post/indianajones
Our first of a multi-part series on women and the Priesthood of the Church. Themes for this part include defining terms, Priesthood vs. religious office, and Priesthood in the past. Join us!
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Men and Women and Priesthood Power, by Elder M. Russell Ballard
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/men-and-women-and-priesthood-power
Wiki: Mormonism and women
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_women
LDS website: Women and Priesthood
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/callings/relief-society-organization/work-and-purpose/women-and-priesthood
Joseph Smith’s Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/joseph-smiths-teachings-about-priesthood-temple-and-women
Women Are Not Better at Multitasking. They Just Do More Work, Studies Show, by Leah Ruppanner
https://www.sciencealert.com/women-aren-t-better-multitaskers-than-men-they-re-just-doing-more-work
Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden
https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Among-People-Reinterpreted-Reimagined/dp/0385522576
Eric’s initial take on Sarah Ruden: We got mysteries, we got apples, we got St. Paul. . . .
https://thmazing.substack.com/p/we-got-mysteries-we-got-apples
Stapley, Jonathan A. and Wright, Kristine, Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism (January 1, 2011). Journal of Mormon History, Vol. 37, pp. 1-85, Winter 2011, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=1754069
A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens
https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/
D&C 25:7: Emma Smith being “ordained” but footnote 7a says “set apart”
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/25#p7
History of the Young Women’s Organization Timeline Infographic, by Deborah Owen. Laurels used to be Junior Gleaners!
https://makingprogresspersonal.com/2015/03/history-of-young-women-organization/
Frigid Offices Might Be Killing Women’s Productivity, by Olga Khazan
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/05/warm-offices-women-productivity/589966/
Original study: Tom Y. Chang ,Agne Kajackaite (2019). “Battle for the thermostat: Gender and the effect of temperature on cognitive performance.” PLoS ONE 14(5): e0216362. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0216362
2 Ne 2:25
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p25
How Rare a Possession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhAsifEMFs
The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions, by Joseph M. Spencer et. al.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085HJWGSQ
Family Proclamations, by Blair Hodges
https://www.familyproclamations.org/
Women LDS Relief Society leaders are no longer allowed on the stand in the Bay Area, as covered in Peggy Fletcher Stack’s SL Tribune’s article. On this show, we talk about activism in general, our reaction to this change (not great) and discuss how we think our personal responsibility for revelation needs to be balanced with our need for change to come top down from the Church.
‘A slap in the face’: LDS Relief Society leaders ordered off the stand, by Peggy Fletcher Stack
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/24/slap-face-lds-relief-society/
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Why I write, by George Orwell
https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/why-i-write/
Lukewarm and getting spewed
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/rev/3?lang=eng&id=p15-p16#p15
Eric thinks Peggy Fletcher Stack original art story might not have been written about, if someone had a link let us know and we’ll update the notes here :)
The Star Chamber
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber
Un-American activities committee from the 50s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee
Franklin/Peanuts articles:
Black Isn’t a Personality Type, by John H. McWhorter
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-12-op-mcwhorter-story.html
The sweet story behind Peanuts’ groundbreaking first black character, by
Thu-Huong Ha
https://qz.com/571393/the-sweet-story-behind-peanuts-groundbreaking-first-black-character
'Peanuts' First Black Character Franklin Turns 50, by Cecilia Lei and James Delahoussaye
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633544308/peanuts-character-franklin-turns-50
Women at Church: Magnifying LDS Women's Local Impact, by Neylan McBaine
https://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-Magnifying-Womens-Impact/dp/1589586883
Will You Engage in the Wrestle?, by Sheri Dew
https://ing.byui.edu/devotionals/sheri-dew
Jacob wrestling with the angel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel
Enos’s wrestle before God
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/enos/1#p2
Cool stuff from Eric we didn’t get to:
Theric Jepson, Danny Nelson and Steven L. Peck: The Path and the Gate
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/theric-jepson-danny-nelson-and-steven-l-peck-the-path-and-the-gate/
Humor in Mormon Literature with Theric Jepson and Stephen Carter
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/humor-in-mormon-literature-with-theric-jepson-and-stephen-carter/
Faci in Hat Podcast episodes referred to in this episode:
2.10 The Columbian Exchange, Wilford Woodruff, and #BlackLivesMatter
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/ep-210-the-columbian-exchange-wilford-woodruff-and-blacklivesmatter/
3.12 Minerva Teichert and the Manti Temple
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/312-minerva-teichert-and-the-manti-temple/
3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/
3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/
Did you know that we as members of the Church believe in the Book of Revelation? Let’s have some fun and open some seals!
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New YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
Look, playlists!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
This is the link for the Seven Seals wiki!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals
The Hofmann Wobble, by Ben Lerner
https://harpers.org/archive/2023/12/the-hofmann-wobble-wikipedia-and-the-problem-of-historical-memory
Eric’s commentary on The Hatred of Poetry by Ben Lerner
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2022/05/books-extralong-edition.html#047
Wikipedia and the danger of trusting its facts, with Scott Tong and Ben Lerner
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2023/12/18/wikipedia-facts-danger
Book of Revelation: Canonical History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Canonical_history
Ussher chronology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology
D&C 77
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/77
Historical Context and Background of D&C 77, Brief Synopsis by Steven C. Harper
https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/historical-context/dc-77/
Steven C. Harper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_C._Harper
Interpretations of the Book of Revelations (wiki!)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Interpretations
Found one bit to answer Eric’s question on Jehova’s Witnesses: “ The visions apply to “the Lord’s day,” which began when God’s Kingdom was set up in 1914 and Jesus began ruling as King. (Revelation 1:10) We can therefore expect the main fulfillment of Revelation to be in our time.”
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/the-book-of-revelation/
Cleon Skousen. Note the description: “American conservative author with the John Birch Society and a faith-based conspiracy theorist.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen
Face in Hat: 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/
This is the movie I saw as a kid: Visit Israel with Dr. W. Cleon Skousen: Prophecy
https://www.amazon.com/Visit-Israel-Dr-Cleon-Skousen/dp/B000EHIL7I
Source for LDS 1st seal quote in wiki: McConkie, Bruce R. (1981). Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. III. Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft Publishers. pp. 476–497.
Seminary lesson referenced:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/revelation-6-7?lang=eng
New Testament Student Manual: Chapter 54: Revelation 4–11: Revelation 6. The First Six Seals
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-student-manual/revelation/chapter-54-revelation-4-11?lang=eng¶=title17-figure5_35#title17
Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch
https://www.amazon.com/Good-Omens-Accurate-Prophecies-Nutter/dp/0060853980
World Happiness Report
https://worldhappiness.report/
Face in Hat: 2.1 Millennial musings
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/
12 billionth person citation: Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348
Mormon Transfigurism
https://www.transfigurism.org/
https://www.transfigurism.org/library/primers/1-what-is-mormon-transhumanism
The Immortality Upgrade, by Dawn Chan
https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/mormon-transhumanism-and-the-immortality-upgrade
Face in Hat: 1.10 Translation and the Book of Abraham
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-10-translation-and-the-book-of-abraham/
In 1st Corinthians, Paul teaches about protecting the weak ones by avoiding the appearance of evil. Is this applicable to online discourse? Should we avoid the musty corners of church history or should we investigate? Is there harm in causing doubt, or will that doubt come anyway and is best met head on, guide in hand? We want to frankly look at these questions. Join us, and let us know your thoughts!
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New YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat
Look, playlists!
https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints, Revised Edition, by Thomas A. Wayment
https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Translation-Latter-day-Revised/dp/1589587863
Additional reference for today from Eric that we didn’t get to:
Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden
https://amzn.to/3R8E4DY
Pilot episode for your reference:
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/the-man-with-his-face-in-his-hat/
Our grace vs. works episode:
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/58-grace-works-and-foreknowledge/
Chloe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_New_Testament_figures#Chloe
The Zipf Mystery, Vsauce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCn8zs912OE
Corinthians 8 from The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%208&version=MSG
xkcd: Ten Thousand
https://xkcd.com/1053/
Possible reference for using milk to avoid appearing to drink alcohol: In the World, by Elder L. Tom Perry
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1988/04/in-the-world
Spoilers for the Barbie movie!! The Barbie movie takes people into the presence of God and delivers them to the real world. Join us as we discuss the LDS endowment, existentialism, and heavenly mother as we revel in one of the best movies released in years.
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The Barbie movie transcript we used:
https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=121979
Greta Gerwig Refused to Cut a ‘Barbie’ Scene That’s the ‘Heart of the Movie,’ by Zack Sharf
https://variety.com/2023/film/news/barbie-cut-scene-greta-gerwig-refused-remove-old-woman-bench-scene-1235676474/
(FYI my theater was actually in high school… -Aaron)
Wiki existentialism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism
What Barbie Understands About Mother-Daughter Relationships, by Suzanne Garfinkle-Crowell
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/barbie-movie-mother-daughter-relationship/674931/
In the beginning, there was Barbie, by Alissa Wilkinson
https://www.vox.com/culture/23800753/barbie-review-bible-eden
Barbiemania! Margot Robbie Opens Up About the Movie Everyone’s Waiting For, by Abby Aguirre
https://www.vogue.com/article/margot-robbie-barbie-summer-cover-2023-interview
Walk in the Pink Moccasins, by Carol Lynn Pearson
https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/137-21-25.pdf
The Meeting, by Elouise Bell
https://web.archive.org/web/20171008222301/http://signaturebookslibrary.org/only-when-i-laugh-04
The Year They Gave Women the Priesthood, by Michael Fillerup
https://amzn.to/3DXrqQw
The Defection of Baby Mixo, by Mark Penny
https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/the-defection-of-baby-mixo
Dialogue Book Report’s episode with Eric’s about his book, Just Julie’s Fine, isn’t quite out yet, but here’s the link to the podcast:
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcast-subjects/book-report
Is ‘Barbie’ an allegory of Mother Eve in LDS theology? | Episode 298 of Mormon Land, by Peggy Fletcher Stack, with Rachel Rueckert as guest. Referenced from:
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08/09/mormon-land-is-barbie-an-allegory/
Parks and Recollection
https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection
Heavenly Mother is Packing a Suitcase, by Aisling Rowan, part of Birds to Bones
https://www.instagram.com/p/CvOLfPWMh55/
We welcome Tanner McAlister today as we discuss two articles on the translation of the Book of Mormon. We kick things off using our season’s reference, “Yet to be revealed”, from BYU studies. Grant Hardy’s article “The Book of Mormon Translation Process”, provides an excellent discussion of possible problems and resolutions in the translation of the Book of Mormon. Then Tanner, a scholar of Tibetan Buddhism, walks us through his recent work, “The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel”, published in Dialogue, which draws parallels between the discovery and “translation” of both a class of ancient Tibetan Buddhist scripture and the Book of Mormon. Join us!
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The Book of Mormon Translation Process, by Grant Hardy
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-book-of-mormon-translation-process/
The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel, by Tanner Davidson McAlister
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-production-of-the-book-of-mormon-in-light-of-a-tibetan-buddhist-parallel/
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Understanding the Book of Mormon: A Reader's Guide, by Grant Hardy
https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Book-Mormon-Readers-Guide/dp/0199731705
Kathleen Flake, “Translating Time: The Nature and Function of Joseph Smith’s Narrative Canon,” Journal of Religion 87, no. 4 (2007): 497–527
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/519770
Jared Hickman, “‘Bringing Forth’ the Book of Mormon,” in MacKay, Ashurst-McGee, and Hauglid, Producing Ancient Scripture, 78–80.
Blake T. Ostler, “The Book of Mormon as a Modern Expansion of an Ancient Source,” Dialogue 20, no. 1 (1987): 66–123
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V20N01_68.pdf
James Gentry, “Power Objects” (Leiden: Brill, 2017)
https://brill.com/downloadpdf/book/9789004335042/B9789004335042_001.pdf
Rosalynde Welch, “The New Mormon Theology of Matter,” Mormon Studies Review 4, no. 1 (2017): 70.
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=msr2
Longchenpa and the Possession of the Dakinis, from Tantra in Practice, by David Germano and Janet Gyatso
https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9780691190457-020/html?lang=en
Two for one! Grace vs. works is one of our favorite topics, and the foreknowledge of God is another! The two articles from BYU Studies we are covering today relate to each other in fascinating ways. Join us as we discuss how we can approach Grace using LDS and Protestant theology, and how the paradoxes of omniscience can be used to discover more about our own relationship with reality, time, and agency. This was a fun one!
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Understandings of the Relationship between Grace and Works, by Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/understandings-of-the-relationship-between-grace-and-works/
On the Foreknowledge of God: Time, Knowledge, Reality, Agency, by Rosalynde F. Welch
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/on-the-foreknowledge-of-god/
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
(I think this is the one I was referring to! -Aaron)
After All We Can Do...Grace Works, by Robert L. Millet
https://deseretbook.com/p/after-all-we-can-do-grace-works-robert-l-millet-902?variant_id=132598-paperback
Believing Christ: The Parable of the Bicycle and Other Good News, by Stephen E. Robinson
https://deseretbook.com/p/believing-christ-parable-bicycle-other-good-news-stephen-e-robinson-3355?variant_id=108581-hardcover
Aaron’s top three talks :)
The Mediator, by Elder Boyd K. Packer
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator
The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Elder Bruce R. McConkie
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane
Beware of Pride, by President Ezra Taft Benson
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1989/04/beware-of-pride
Pelagianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism
Original Grace, by Adam S. Miller
https://www.amazon.com/Original-Grace-Adam-S-Miller/dp/1639930248
Book of Mormon infinite atonement: Alma 34: 9-14
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/34?lang=eng&id=p9-p14#p9
2 Nephi 9:7
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/9#p7
The Autobiography of Parley Parker Pratt by Parley P. Pratt
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44896
Our episode that includes the Great God by Orson Pratt
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/
Exploring Mormon Thought: Volume 1, The Attributes of God, by Blake T. Ostler
https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Mormon-Thought-Attributes-God-ebook/dp/B0077YUTJE
Gospel Topic: God the Father
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/god-the-father
D&C 130:7, “...past, present, and future… are continually before the Lord.”
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng&id=p7#p7
The “eternal now” quote: “the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal ‘now.’” History of the Church, 4:597, quoted here:
https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/knowledge-of-gods-plan
If You Could Hie to Kolob
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/hymns/if-you-could-hie-to-kolob
“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” – Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14434-space-is-big-you-just-won-t-believe-how-vastly-hugely
Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics Andrew Knaupp and Sal Velluto, Pillar of Light Mark Elwood, The Glass Looker Noah Van Sciver, Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Eric W. Jepson
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-and-the-possibility-of-comics-andrew-knaupp-and-sal-velluto-pillar-of-light-mark-elwood-the-glass-looker-noah-van-sciver-joseph-smith-and-the-mormons/
When exactly are we supposed to be obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law? Nathan Oman’s article on Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought took us down a winding road exploring this question. Ride along!
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Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought, by Nathan B. Oman
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/civil-disobedience-in-latter-day-saint-thought/
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
General conference
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04?lang=eng
Peacemakers Needed, by President Russell M. Nelson
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04/47nelson?lang=eng
The Restoration of Conscientious Objection, by Ron Madsen
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/british-latter-day-saint-conscientious-objectors-in-world-war-i
QI Series M, Episode 2 - Military Matters (transcript)
https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/13/2/
Google Books Ngram Viewer: conscientious objection and civil disobedience
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conscientious+objection%2Cconscientious+objector%2C+civil+disobedience&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3
Doctrine and Covenants 98
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/98?lang=eng
The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208
Wiki on “The Freeze” in Ghana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Ghana#%22The_Freeze%22
You Can't Close My Heart: Ghanaian Saints and the Freeze
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2015-12-0001-you-cant-close-my-heart-ghanaian-saints-and-the-freeze?lang=eng
Helmuth Hübener
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_H%C3%BCbener
Hübener, a play by Thomas F. Rogers
https://www.amazon.com/Huebener-Other-Plays-Thomas-Rogers/dp/0963261800
(This includes a review of the play Hübener! Check it out!) Review: The Plays of Thomas F. Rogers, by B. Kent Harrison
https://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHarrisonThomasRogers.html
The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris. Look for the story “Reach”, a science fiction story about an oppressive future where a bishop is released from a calling his conscious mind doesn't realize he held.
https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682
Our church’s framing of the apostasy and restoration is changing, and Miranda Wilcox wrote about it! How we narrate our religious history affects our general understanding of Christian history, and can help us better appreciate the centuries of progress between the ancient apostles and 1820.
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Narrating Religious Heritage: Apostasy and Restoration, by Miranda Wilcox
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/narrating-religious-heritage/
Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics
Reviewed by Theric Jepson
Dialogue 56, no. 1, Spring 2023 (in press)
Pillar of Light, by Andrew G. Knaupp (Author), Sal Velluto (Illustrator)
https://www.cedarfort.com/pages/pillar-of-light
The Glass Looker, by Mark Elwood
https://theglasslooker.com/about/
Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Noah Van Sciver
https://amzn.to/3JPxRJw
Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber
https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/
Remnant or Replacement? Outlining a Possible Apostasy Narrative, by Nicholas J. Frederick and Joseph M. Spencer
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5076&context=byusq
1st Nephi 11-14
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/11
John the Baptist wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist
How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe (The Hinges of History), by Thomas Cahill
https://amzn.to/3I4v8uF
Martyrs' Crossing, by Melissa Leilani Larson
https://www.melissaleilanilarson.com/martyrs-crossing
So, was Jesus married? Our holiday edition of our series on open questions follows Christopher James Blythe’s article on the same question. Conspiracy, Assassin’s Creed, Dan Brown, this one’s got it all. Lots of great links in the show notes! See you next year!
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Was Jesus Married?, by Christopher James Blythe
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5137&context=byusq
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, by The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail
Wiki on the book!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail
Identical ancestors point
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point
Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, by Christopher James Blythe
https://amzn.to/3WBKo6E
LDS Church Issues Statement Regarding "The Da Vinci Code"
https://www.ksl.com/article/266159/lds-church-issues-statement-regarding-the-da-vinci-code
Evil along the Mississippi: Stories from Nauvoo, by Christopher James Blythe
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-evil-along-the-mississippi-stories-from-nauvoo/
Introducing Introductions to Mormon Thought. The first two books are linked there and below: Eugene England: A Mormon Liberal, by Kristine Haglund, and Vardis Fisher: A Mormon Novelist
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/wordpress/introducing-introductions-to-mormon-thought/
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p058332
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=83xxc9pb9780252044090
Dialogue Book Report #19: Strange Mormon Fiction: Dave Butler and William Morris
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-19-strange-mormon-fiction-dave-butler-and-william-morris/
Agency is critical to the plan of salvation, and the adversary wanted it gone. But how? Philip L. Barlow wrote a banger of an article in Dialogue looking at prevailing theories, and argues the theology yields critical implications for how Mormons interact with government, politics, and church organization. It’s a great read!!!
Philip L. Barlow has a doctorate of theology (Th.D.) from the Harvard Divinity School and serves on the boards of directors for the Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology and the Dialogue Foundation. How cool is that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Barlow
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Article for today: “Shards of Combat: How Did Satan Seek to Destroy the Agency of Man?”, by Philip L. Barlow
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/shards-of-combat/
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Darlene Young’s “A plan of salvation” isn’t yet published, but will appear in Irreantum’s next issue, “The Plan”.
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/
Moses 4:3
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/4?lang=eng#p3
Bonus! Jaywalking chat was cut from the episode, but enjoy Adam Ruins Everything - Why Jaywalking Is a Crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFn7MiJz_s
We welcome William Morris aka Wm, founder of A Motley Vision, onto our show to talk about the BYU studies article, The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison. We talk about the nature of individuality, intelligence, and our own eternal destiny, as revealed by Joseph Smith and studied by prophets and scholars ever since. We even may have come to a new conclusion on the discourse as a whole? Join us!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Dialogue Podcast Network
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/
Article for today: The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/
The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Motley Vision website
https://motleyvision.org/
The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris
https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682
Email subscription for Wm
https://buttondown.email/motleyvision
God has created “both things to act and things to be acted upon”, 2 Nephi 2:14
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p14
Science the Key to Theology: Volume One: Preliminaries, by Steven L. Peck
https://www.amazon.com/Science-Key-Theology-One-Preliminaries/dp/0998605204
The Marvelous Clouds: Toward a Philosophy of Elemental Media, by John Durham Peters
https://www.amazon.com/Marvelous-Clouds-Toward-Philosophy-Elemental/dp/022625383X
Dark Watch and other Mormon-American stories, by William Morris
https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Watch-other-Mormon-American-stories-ebook/dp/B00WQHCCFG
Talking to Dante in the Spirit World,by Daniel Cooper
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/
Hemingway in Paradise and Other Mormon Poems, by Scott Hales
https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Paradise-Other-Mormon-Poems/dp/B09WQBHBQG
Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/
It’s a two for one today as we look at two BYU studies articles on whether God ever has or is currently progressing, and on progression in the afterlife. Go deep with us! It’s so much fun! Plus Hadestown makes an appearance!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/
Two articles in this episode:
What Is the Nature of God’s Progress?, by Matthew Bowman
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/what-is-the-nature-of-gods-progress/
How Limited Is Postmortal Progression?, by Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/how-limited-is-postmortal-progression/
Both from the full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Brain cells in a lab dish learn to play Pong — and offer a window onto intelligence, by Jon Hamilton
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/10/14/1128875298/brain-cells-neurons-learn-video-game-pong
Heike's Void, by Steven Peck (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550
The Plan, a play by Eric Samuelsen
https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/155-06-31.pdf
Slaughterhouse-Five: A Novel, by Kurt Vonnegut (Author)
https://www.amazon.com/Slaughterhouse-Five-Novel-Modern-Library-Novels/dp/0385333846
Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel
Infinity - Here Come the 123s, by They Might Be Giants
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpEB-Y2Ai0&list=OLAK5uy_ltENVxaQXfqCtKD-WTW_t38dlM81kvy-E
How To Count Past Infinity - Vsauce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88
Infinity is bigger than you think - Numberphile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvOZm0d4H0
(Aaron) I couldn’t quite verify it, but it’s rumored that Matthew Bowman’s The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith states that James Talmadge was one of the first Mormon’s with a Ph.D.
https://www.amazon.com/Mormon-People-Making-American-Faith/dp/081298336X
Talking to Dante in the Spirit World, by Daniel Cooper
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/
Hadestown! It’s the best. Here’s a spotify link.
https://open.spotify.com/album/1J1yxODbNlqKbwRqJxYJUP
Hades! Also the best. Get it on steam or it’s free right now on xbox if you have game pass!
https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades/
Joseph Smith and the Mormons Hardcover, by Noah Van Sciver
https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Smith-Mormons-Noah-Sciver/dp/141974965X
Next time! The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/
Our related previous episode: 2.2 Canonization and the King Follett Discourse
https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/22-canonization-and-the-king-follett-discourse/
Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate. Join us! Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman.
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/
“Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/
Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14
People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens
https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989
Argument - Monty Python
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate. Join us! Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman.
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/
Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/
“Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman
https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/
Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14
People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens
https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989
Argument - Monty Python
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
Mormons love the Old Testament and everything about the Jewish faith and culture. Join us as we go into the history of Judaic influences on the LDS faith, and the sometimes complex relationship between our faiths.
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Colonialism - The Board Game Struggle, by No Pun Included
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuFSxs9VXA
Wiki: Judaism and Mormonism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism
What Is Cultural Appropriation?, by The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-cultural-appropriation
The Complicated Relationship between Mormons and Jews, by Matthew Bowman (free registration and free trial required)
https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/history-ideas/2020/07/the-complicated-relationship-between-mormons-and-jews/
Reverence vs Chutzpah, by thmazing
https://motleyvision.org/2013/05/01/reverence-vs-chutzpah/
Selections from Jews and Words by Oz and Oz-Salzberger, by thmazing
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/selections-from-jews-and-words-by-oz.html
Jews and Words, by Amos Oz and Fania Oz-Salzberger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300156472/
Cats, Feces, Zombies, Jews, Wars, Princesses, Prophets, Exes, Screenplays, blog post by thmazing
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/cats-feces-zombies-jews-wars-princesses.html#lineage
What Is It About Mormonism?, by Noah Feldman (subscription required)
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06mormonism-t.html
(Aaron) I couldn’t find the reference for Spencer W. Kimball sharing a joke with the Lord, but I did find the awesome list of jokes and stories about Spencer W. Kimball. Highly recommended!
Spencer W. Kimball: A Man of Good Humor, by Edward L. Kimball
https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2389
A fun primary lesson led to a deeper discussion of historicity and truth in the book of Joshua.
What Do We Mean When We Say that the Scriptures Are True? By Michael Austin
https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/05/23/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-that-the-scriptures-are-true/
Wiki: the conquest of Caanan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Joshua#Entry_into_the_land_and_conquest_.28chapters_2.E2.80.9312.29
Come follow me: Joshua
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22
On Writing Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck
https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/06/on-writing-heikes-void-by-steven-l-peck/
Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck
https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550
Wiki: Battle of Jericho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho
Song of solomon footnote
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/song/1?lang=eng#note
Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk
Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber
https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/
Thoughts to Keep in Mind: The Historical Books in the Old Testament
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22-thoughts
Mormon Literature at the 57th Annual MHA Conference, by Liz Busby
https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/05/mormon-literature-at-the-57th-annual-mha-conference/
Reading scientific papers requires a critical mindset, but often ‘critical’ has a negative connotation. How can we apply critical reading to scriptures and conference addresses? This is especially relevant in the context of recent conference addresses and discourse in the Mormon community on Heavenly Mother (see especially Dialogue’s spring issue, “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context”).
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Infographic: How to read a scientific paper, by Natalia Rodriguez
https://www.elsevier.com/connect/infographic-how-to-read-a-scientific-paper
Answering Gospel Questions
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/answering-gospel-questions?lang=eng
How to Tell a True War Story, by Tim O’Brian
https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~cinichol/CreativeWriting/323/OBrienWarStory.pdf
The things they carried, by Tim O’Brian
https://www.amazon.com/Things-They-Carried-Tim-OBrien/dp/0618706410
Your Divine Nature and Eternal Destiny, By Elder Dale G. Renlund (see footnote 10)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2022/04/36renlund
Dialogue, Spring 2022. “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context.”
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/spring-2022/
In Defense of Heavenly Mother: Her Critical Importance for Mormon Culture and Theology, by Margaret Toscano
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/in-defense-of-heavenly-mother-her-critical-importance-for-mormon-culture-and-theology/
Abbott & Costello 7 x 13 = 28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos
Queer Mormon Theology: An Introduction, by Blaire Ostler
https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Mormon-Theology-Blaire-Ostler/dp/1948218410
Mother's Milk, by Rachel Hunt Steenblik
https://www.amazon.com/Mothers-Milk-Rachel-Hunt-Steenblik/dp/0998605220
Finding Mother God: Poems to Heal the World Hardcover, by Carol Lynn Pearson
https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Mother-God-Poems-World/dp/1423656687
Dove Song: Heavenly Mother in Mormon Poetry. Edited by Tyler Chadwick, Dayna Patterson, and Martin Pulido
http://www.peculiarpages.com/books/dove-song/
Dr. Eugene England and Elder Bruce R. McConkie really didn’t agree on many points regarding the nature of God and the destiny of souls. For today’s show, we highly recommend Rebecca England’s essay linked in the show notes! We cover it briefly but it’s worth your time!
D&C 1:30
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/1?lang=eng&id=30#p30
The vision: D&C 76
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76
“The Vision”, by Matthew McBride (includes quote from Brigham Young and his brother Joseph)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-vision?lang=eng#p12
D&C 19:11-19
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19?lang=eng&id=11-19#p11
So Ask No More…, by Mario R. Montani. Translated by Gabriel González.
(Spanish) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/y-no-preguntes-mas/
(English) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/so-ask-no-more/
A Professor and Apostle Correspond: Eugene England and Bruce R. McConkie on the Nature of God, by Rebecca England
http://www.eugeneengland.org/a-professor-and-apostle-correspond-eugene-england-and-bruce-r-mcconkie-on-the-nature-of-god
The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie
https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/
Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens
https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X
Here’s a direct link to the quote that blew Aaron away, from Articles of Faith by, James Talmage, pg 421
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42238/42238-h/42238-h.htm#Page_421
Printed vs. audio version of The Seven Deadly Heresies
https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Primary_sources/Bruce_R._McConkie/Seven_deadly_heresies
Happy new year! We revisit older shows, adding updates on finance (billions of dollars worth), the Provo temple, the Devil in church meetings and certain prophecies about the color of horses.
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
More about the deseret alphabet and Unicode by Kenneth R. Beesley:
https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2002/02169-deseret.pdf
https://uofupress.lib.utah.edu/an-1860-english-hopi-vocabulary-written-in-the-deseret-alphabet/
https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb25-0/beesley.pdf
Original whistleblower article, by Jon Swaine, Douglas MacMillan and Michelle Boorstein:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html
Some Thoughts About Ensign Peak Advisers and the Church, by Sam Brunson
https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/12/17/some-thoughts-about-ensign-peak-advisers-and-the-church/
Let’s Talk About Money, by Sam Brunson
https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/08/21/lets-talk-about-money/#more-115349
Response to church’s response, by Sam Brunson
https://twitter.com/smbrnsn/status/1208433565945487360
The Good Shepherds musical:
https://thegoodshepherds.net/about-the-show
Provo temple pictures:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/photo-gallery/provo-utah-temple?lang=eng
Irreantum issue: Joe Smith and the Devil
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/18_1_top/
Sympathy for the “Devil”, by Roxy Rawson:
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/sympathy-for-the-devil/
Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWokxCfCvs
Eric’s comment in twitter thread on the OT:
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1476590787408252934
Starting off with the history of the People’s Park in Berkley, we segway into discussing Emily Kaplan’s article in the Washington Post, “The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints.” It’s a great article and has generated lots of discussion, especially around LBGTQ issues. Join us!
Link to our Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
People's Park (Berkeley)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park_(Berkeley)
The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan
https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/
First Person: Berkeley's Matt Marostica on How to Make Progressive Change within a Conservative Church
https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101885956/first-person-berkeleys-matt-marostica-on-how-to-make-progressive-change-within-a-conservative-church
Fireside podcast Ep. 6—No Compartments (David Dark)
https://www.firesidepod.org/episodes/dark
Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious, by David Dark
https://www.amazon.com/Lifes-Short-Pretend-Youre-Religious/dp/0830844465
Human History Gets a Rewrite, by William Deresiewicz
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything-history-humanity/620177/
Garden of Enid: Enid vs. The Big Tent, by Scott Hales
https://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/post/94527291396/enid-vs-the-big-tent-8122014/amp
Benjamin Park’s response to Emily Kaplan’s essay
https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1442616042627469312
Prop 8 - The Musical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o
Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens
https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X
Brigham Young loved the Deseret alphabet, and so do we. It’s so cool looking and old and kinda weird. It’s perfect Mormon history and it’s forever enshrined in Unicode. Let’s take a look!
Link to new Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
Start here!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet
English Phonotypic Alphabet, developed by Sir Isaac Pitman and Alexander John Ellis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Phonotypic_Alphabet
George D. Watt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_D._Watt
A Simplified Alphabet, by Mark Twain
https://englishliterature.net/mark-twain/a-simplified-alphabet
Monsters and Mormons
https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245
Quite Interesting, J series, ep 13, Jobs
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B084DL9FQC/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s10
Making Peace: Personal Essays, by Eugene England, Chapter 4, On Bringing Peace To BYU, With The Help Of Brigham Young
http://signaturebookslibrary.org/on-bringing-peace-to-byu-with-the-help-of-brigham-young/
Dialogue Book Report #13: Kristine Haglund on Eugene England
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-13-kristine-haglund-on-eugene-england/
The Deseret Alphabet in Unicode, by Kenneth R. Beesley
http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~jericks/Historical%20or%20Technical/History%20Looking%20Backwards/Ken%20Beesley/Deseret%20in%20Unicode.pdf
The Stainless Steel Rat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat
Did you know they had smallpox vaccines in the 1700s? Join us as we kick off season 4 of Face in Hat with some history and then an in-depth look at one of the most important modern miracles, the mRNA vaccine against Covid 19.
Link to new Face in Hat discord server!
https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh
The Plague Year: The mistakes and the struggles behind America’s coronavirus tragedy, by Lawrence Wright
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year
Twitter thread by by Michael Harriot on Cotton Mather, Onesimus, and smallpox vaccinations in the 1700s
https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1432060194276659203
Inoculation Origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation#Origins
The History of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, by Stanford T Shulman
https://www.nature.com/articles/pr200425/
Deseret Evening News | 1900-11-17 | To the Latter-Day Saints
https://newspapers.lib.utah.edu/details?id=1906891&q=smallpox&parent_i=1906796
LDS Humanitarian Programs
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/humanitarian-service/church
LDS Church kicks in $20M toward global COVID vaccination push, by Peggy Fletcher Stack
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/02/26/lds-church-kicks-m-toward
2 Billion COVID-19 Vaccinations Roll out to At-Risk Populations Church donation helps support UNICEF’s role in global effort
https://www.latterdaysaintcharities.org/blogs/2-billion-covid-19-vaccinations-roll-out-at-risk-populations
The sprint to solve coronavirus protein structures — and disarm them with drugs, by Megan Scudellari
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01444-z
mRNA Vaccine (not mentioned on the show, but excellent :)
https://xkcd.com/2425/
Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines, SciShow, Hosted by: Hank Green
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw
COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: How could anything developed this quickly be safe? By Moon Nahm, M.D.
https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/12059-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-how-could-anything-developed-this-quickly-be-safe
The tangled history of mRNA vaccines, by Elie Dolgin
https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-021-02483-w
How the vaccine works (Tik Tok)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OmQp6GNJSQ
We missed posting this one during Pride month, but it’s relevant! Join us for a conversation with local beloved Berkeleyite Paul. We hear how his relative worked on the Oakland Temple in the 50s, and about Paul’s life being gay in San Francisco in the 80s. He loves the temple, and hearing his testimony was delightful. Thanks Paul!
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Photos!
Sandwiches! From Paul: “It was nice to happily share sandwiches in 1962 with a person born in 1874.”
https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8pyxrz/arthur_sandwiches.jpg
Calligraphy:
https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7rfc9k/arthur_calligraphy.png
Photos from the Oakland Temple construction:
https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/da6h64/oaklandtempleconstruction1.png
https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bq3jh4/oaklandtempleconstruction2.png
We had too many great stories to fit into our Church building program episode so here’s some more from Aaron’s uncles!
Aaron’s Grandpa was a building missionary who built churches all over the pacific northwest. We welcome Aaron’s uncles onto the show (yay!) who helped build these churches as the family moved from location to location. We were very happy to hear what it was like on the ground during one of the most rapid expansions in the church’s history. Thanks for joining us!
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Essential Craftsman
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzr30osBdTmuFUS8IfXtXmg
Mission letter
https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/i8qqi3/mckay_letter_r.png
Dialogue Fireside #4 with Benjamin Park, “Mormonism’s Many Modernisms: What the Faith’s Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.”
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/
Temple renovations in Manti were scheduled to remove murals by LDS painter Minerva Teichert, but that decision was reversed. Join us as we look into her story and work, art in the church in general, and how remembrance and ritual soaks in our very beings.
Minerva Teichert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Teichert
The Deseret Alphabet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet
John Hafen's "O My Father" illustrations: https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/36.1PheyseyTestimony-b101cd84-1291-4e99-8614-0844a61b49f9.pdf
Harvesting the Light: The 1890 Paris Art Mission, by Giles H. Florence, Jr.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/10/harvesting-the-light-the-1890-paris-art-mission
Manti Utah Temple
https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/manti-utah-temple/
Lots of prints available for the two paintings we mentioned. Since we didn’t want to endorse a particular website, here are some convenient google searches to see them:
https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+esther+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch
https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+in+the+red+robe+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch
Minerva Teichert’S Manti Temple Murals, by Doris R Dant
https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/38.DantMinerva.pdf
Point and Counterpoint:
Point: It’s just art, by Jonathan Green
https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/its-just-art/
Counterpoint: A Feeling of Loss–On Murals and Temples, by Chad Nielsen
https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/counterpoint-a-feeling-of-loss/
Mormon News report
https://mormonnewsreport.com/
Ritual, Remembrance, and Minerva Teichert’s Art, by Russel Arben Fox
https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/04/05/ritual-remembrance-and-minerva-teicherts-art/
At Last She Said It podcast, Episode 049: Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall
https://atlastshesaidit.org/episode-049-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/
Icons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon
What the LDS Church wants to know from its young adult members, by Jana Riess
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/03/23/jana-riess-what-lds/
This was a fun one and we went all over the place. From a really great 1700s poem on truth, to BYU spy rings, to the nature of character in education, join us as we look at what church education looked like in the 60s and speculate on how it might have been different today.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
"Act Well Thy Part", David O. McKay's Lifelong Motto
https://education.byu.edu/magazine/winter2016/act_well_thy_part
"Home Literature", Orson F. Whitney
http://mldb.byu.edu/homelit.htm
Isaac Watts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Watts
High res shot of the Isaac Watts poem, from “The improvement of the mind”
https://archive.org/details/suppimproveofmin00wattuoft/page/72/mode/2up
Ernest L. Wilkinson, spy ring on wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_L._Wilkinson#The_1966_BYU_spy_ring_controversy
Ernest L. Wilkinson and the 1966 BYU Spy Ring: A Response to D. Michael Quinn, by Jeff D. Blake
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V28N01_175.pdf
Dialogue book report podcast
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-book-report/
Why Utah Mormons Should Become Democrats: Reflections On Partisan Politics
http://signaturebookslibrary.org/why-utah-mormons-should-become-democrats-reflections-on-partisan-politics/
How did the church become international? How much more do we have to go? Let’s look at David O. McKay’s contribution and see how we can apply it to our present church.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Liken the scriptures unto yourselves:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/19.23-24#23
Find more about the Beyond the Block and the Foyer podcasts on Dialogue!
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcastnetwork/
Hajj
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj
Regarding our discussion of international vs. global. This episode was recorded before General Conference, and the Spring 2021 Sunday Morning session was awesome. Nearly every talk was from an international member and there was lots of international music. Seemed like a great step.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/04/sunday-morning-session
For Black History Month, we study Chapter 4 of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism: “Blacks, Civil Rights, and the Priesthood.” The ban on black people holding the Priesthood was lifted in 1978. The people, politics, and circumstances leading up to it, particularly in McKay’s time in the 50s and 60s, makes for a difficult, but fascinating conversation. Struggle along with us as we grapple with the past to try and shape a better future.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Leiland Tanner - Coat of Colors (Kolobyte Peculiar Mix), from Peculiar People by Kolobyte
https://kolobyte.bandcamp.com/track/leiland-tanner-coat-of-colors-kolobyte-peculiar-mix
Gospel topic: Race and the Priesthood
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/race-and-the-priesthood
Standing on the Promises, Book One: One More River to Cross, by Margaret Blair Young
https://amzn.to/3km0EGQ
Martin Luther King Jr: Letter from a Birmingham jail
https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html
Wiki: J Reuben Clark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark#Racism_and_anti-Semitism
The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America, by Richard Rothstein
https://amzn.to/2Nwaf22
Redlining
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining
Why I Hate White Jesus, by James Goldberg
http://mormonmidrashim.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-i-hate-white-jesus.html
More on Anthony Obinna
https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2005-08-27/coming-full-circle-in-west-africa-90096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVxNYQd4-v4
Following our theme of change in the church, we look at how our approach to media has changed over the last half century, from the early days of broadcasting to recent attitude shifts regarding social media and embracing new forms of communication
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
An Honest Liar (2014)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2246565/
“‘Julie Through the Glass’: The Rise and Fall of the Mormon TV Commercial”, By Rollo Romig
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/julie-through-the-glass-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-mormon-tv-commerical
“Be an Example of the Believers”, Mary N. Cook (2010)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2010/10/be-an-example-of-the-believers
LDS General Conference Corpus
https://www.lds-general-conference.org/
President Hinkley on 60 minutes
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/
Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q
What do we do when we disagree with family, neighbors, and friends over things so important to us that it seems impossible to reconcile? David O’McKay’s fundamental belief in free agency and love of those around him meant he respected other’s beliefs and lived a life of tolerance, while still taking action when he thought it was needed. In this episode we look at specific examples of tolerance from his life and try to apply these lessons to our own lives as we navigate the modern world of opinion and debate.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Transcript of President Joe Biden’s inauguration speech
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-inauguration-speech-transcript-full-text-460813
Juanita Brooks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks
Dialogue Fireside, January 17: Benjamin Park on “Mormonism’s Many Modernisms: What the Faith’s Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.”
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/
More on Amy B Lyman and Franklin S Harris
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_S._Harris
Matters of Conscience, by Sterling M. McMurrin and L. Jackson Newell
http://signaturebookslibrary.org/sterling-m-mcmurrin/
No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith, by Fawn M. Brodie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History
Today we discussed McKay Coppin’s article “The Most American Religion”, published in The Atlantic. It’s a great read or listen (find the audio link in the article!). We were particularly interested in his discussion of how our desire for acceptance affects how we interact with others as people of faith, and we applied that to our own experiences being LDS on the internet.
The Most American Religion, by McKay Coppins:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/01/the-most-american-religion/617263/
Benjamin Park’s thread on the difference between a global and international church:
https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1340140374279548928
David O’McKay helped strengthen interfaith relationships during his tenure as President of the Church, yet Mormonism and the Catholic Church had a rocky relationship in the late 50s. Thanks to several key events and the loving patience and ministry of Catholic Bishop Duane Hunt, the rift was healed and David O’McKay’s own attitude was changed. Can this be a model for healing divides in modern communities? Maybe! Let’s talk about it!
The Great Brain book series:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Brain
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Bible dictionary on Prayer. If you’ve never read this it’s worth your time :)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bd/prayer
The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Bruce R. McConkie. Again, one of the most powerful talks on the Atonement ever written.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane
Mormon Doctrine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)
‘Tis the season for a show about politics! Join us as we look at political polarization in the 50s and 60s and trace its effects all the way forward to 2020.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
The Law of Consecration
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_consecration
The United Order
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order#cite_note-Clark04-1942-26
Diogenes was searching for an honest man (and may have been earth’s first green lantern):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes
https://twitter.com/jdp_writes/status/1321901575535812609
Fearreantum
https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-top/
This Scary Statistic Predicts Growing US Political Violence — Whatever Happens On Election Day, by Peter Aldhous
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/political-violence-inequality-us-election
Whoops, the quote attributed to Jimmy Carter about if you don’t want your tax dollars to help the poor then you don’t want a country based on Christian values, was actually said by comedian John Fugelsang!
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jimmy-carter-helping-poor/
Arthur Watkins’s memoir is called “Enough rope: The inside story of the censure of Senator Joe McCarthy by his colleagues, the controversial hearings that signaled the end of a turbulent and a fearsome era in American public life”
Folding Ideas: In Search Of A Flat Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44
QAnon Is a New American Religion, by Caroline Mimbs Nyce
https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/05/qanon-q-pro-trump-conspiracy/611722/
Newt Gingrich Says You're Welcome, by McKay Coppins
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832
And just for fun, a J. Golden Kimball quote on politics:
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1320982721225584640
Ever heard of the baseball baptisms? Missionary Work during David O’Mckay’s presidency has some swings! Come for the crazy stories and stay for the embarrassing ones.
We continue reading “David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism,” this time chapter 10, “Missionary Work”.
Whence the Early Baptismal Challenges, by Angela C.
https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/08/06/whence-the-early-baptismal-challenges/
During President McKay’s tenure, the church tripled its membership. The reorganization of the church to handle this unprecedented growth was known as ‘correlation’. How did this process affect the church, its quorums and auxiliaries? What were some of the side effects? We again use David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism as a reference for today, focusing on chapter 7, “Correlation and Church Administration”.
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Useful wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_Correlation_Program
Article on women healing: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=mormonhistory
“There Is Always a Struggle”: An Interview with Chieko N. Okazaki, by Greg Prince. Dialog 45, no. 1 (Spring 2012).
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V45N01_CO.pdf
“What have the Joseph Smith Papers taught me?”, by Steve Evans
https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/08/24/what-have-the-joseph-smith-papers-taught-me/
Welcome to season 3! We introduce our themes for the year, and after that take a deep dive on baptism.
This year we’ll be focusing on change in the church, and how our expectations of true doctrine clash with the realities of a people-led church.
Notes:
“I’m coming to the conclusion that 1933 was the hinge upon which modern Mormonism pivoted: It was the year BH Roberts died and J Reuben Clark joined the First Presidency, thus marking the sunset of one potential Mormon trajectory and the dawn of another.” -Benjamin Park
https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1299770339971526656
Wikipedia for B. H. Roberts and J. Reuben Clark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince
https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227
Comic on B.H. Roberts, from The Garden of Enid: Adventures of a Weird Mormon Girl, Part One, by Scott Givens (click ‘look inside’ and search for doubts)
https://amzn.to/31XkLU8
4th article of faith
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1.4#4
Gospel topics: Baptism
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/baptism
D&C 76
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76
Eric’s lecture on the first vision:
https://youtu.be/aFSicnZ3B3k
Gospel topic on the vision, or D&C 76. See especially the vido linked therein:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/the-vision-dc-76
D&C 19:15-19
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19.15-19#15
Sin Does Not Exist: And Believing That It Does Is Ruining Us, by S. Richard Bellrock
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/sin-does-not-exist/
A Monopoly on Exaltation, by user Ziff
https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2020/08/24/a-monopoly-on-exaltation/
The Mediator, by Boyd K. Packer. ← Powerful atonement talk
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator
Twitter thread on the Mediator, see several links here:
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1301747609854332928
The second season of Face in Hat concluded with the previous episode regarding Christopher Columbus and Black Lives Matter. We'll be starting our third season this fall with more episodes, continuing as part of the Dialogue podcasting network.
In the meantime, enjoy Eric’s lecture, "Triangulating God: Eighty-seven Angles on the First Vision." In it, Eric approaches the question of "how to explain an experience no one shares? Joseph Smith struggled throughout his life to explain the First Vision and now Latter-day Saint artists take up this impossible mantle.” Part of an ongoing series on the First Vision through the Oakland California Stake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k
“Bioshock Infinite can make you feel uncomfortable.” - Kevin VanOrd. So will 2020. We talk about civic religion in the video game Bioshock Infinite and how it relates to the apotheosis of Christopher Columbus and racism in the church. We end with a discussion of the current nationwide protests and affirm that #BlackLivesMatter.
We thank @BenjaminEPark for two twitter threads that inspired this episode and we cite him extensively. See https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768 and https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392.
Bioshock infinite trailer: https://youtu.be/EsJ55BzIvkE
Bioshock infinite review by Kevin VanOrd review from GameSpot: https://youtu.be/jSA9AsdBh00
The Apotheosis of Washington vs. Bioshock Infinite’s Garden of New Eden
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington
https://bioshock.fandom.com/wiki/Garden_of_New_Eden (see the Entryway to Eden)
Benjamin Park’s thread
https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768
Land of Promise in The Book of Mormon, by Tyler Livingston (note, on the show I said Orson Hyde added the footnote to 1 Ne 13:12, but it was Orson Pratt)
https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2010/09/16/land-of-promise-in-the-book-of-mormon
Christopher Coloumbus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus
Visit of eminent spirits to Wilford Woodruff (include Ezra Taft Benson quote)
https://josephsmithfoundation.org/wiki/eminent-spirits-appear-to-wilford-woodruff
References for Book of Mormon commentary by George Reynolds
https://gospeldoctrine.com/book-mormon/1-nephi/1-nephi-13
George Reynolds: Loyal Friend of the Book of Mormon, by Bruce A. Van Orden
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/08/george-reynolds-loyal-friend-of-the-book-of-mormon
Columbian Exchange
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange
Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey
https://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/americapox
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond Ph.D.
https://amzn.to/36YaHLB
Protests thread by Benjamin Park
https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and Wm. Robert Wright
https://amzn.to/36S59Ch
Mayflower: Voyage, Community, War Paperback, by Nathaniel Philbrick
https://amzn.to/3dnDsE0
The Book of Mormon for the Least of These, Volume 1, by Fatimah Salleh and Margaret Olsen Hemming
https://amzn.to/2Mmetow
The Lost 116 Pages: Reconstructing the Book of Mormon's Missing Stories, by Don Bradley
https://amzn.to/36QFBpa
Racism in the Church:
https://twitter.com/TaranTrinnaman/status/1267837998751776771
Melodie’s request:
https://twitter.com/Kid_melodie/status/1267209095028891654
We love the Fall. Adam, Eve, fruit, the whole thing. Today we talk about the LDS perspective on the Fall, including what LDS scriptures bring to understanding this monumental event. Nifty poetry too!
A Harmony of the Creation Accounts, from the Pearl of Great Price Student Manual
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-pearl-of-great-price-student-manual-2018/a-harmony-of-the-creation-accounts?lang=eng
The Pearl of Greatest Price: Mormonism's Most Controversial Scripture, by Terryl Givens
https://amzn.com/dp/B07WNK63SY
Aaron’s concordance between Genesis 3 and Moses 4
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PsZXaUJ_hAbsGzhS0vC5s-UP4A94pf0V8oGci4ZSXQM/edit?usp=sharing
Adam and Eve (LDS movement, wiki)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve_(Latter_Day_Saint_movement)
Gospel topic: Fall of Adam and Eve
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/fall-of-adam-and-eve
The Fulness of the Gospel: The Fall of Adam and Eve, Ensign June 2006
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/06/the-fulness-of-the-gospel-the-fall-of-adam-and-eve
Gospel Classics: Adam’s Role in Bringing Us Mortality, by President Joseph Fielding Smith
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/01/adams-role-in-bringing-us-mortality
Perelandra, once again cited!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra
The Redemption of Eve, by Jolene Edmunds Rockwood
http://www.mormonmonastery.org/PDF/TheRedemptionofEve.pdf
Moses 5:11
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/5.11#11
“UTopia” by Laura Nielson Baxter, collected in “Fire in the Pasture: 21st Century Mormon Poets”
https://amzn.to/2xJs6dY
What Was Left of the Stars, by Claire Åkebrand
http://amzn.to/2wL1x5r
Eric’s comments on Claire Åkebrand’s poem, “‘First Actors”, from the above collection
https://motleyvision.org/2017/09/05/claire-akebrands-what-was-left-of-the-stars/#more-12058
Witchy Eye, by D. J. Butler
https://amzn.to/3cGwLMy
We take a break from our LDS miscellany to discuss the current pandemic using the recent conference as a backdrop. Please note the upcoming world-wide fast on Good Friday.
“We will conquer the coronavirus, apostle Holland says”
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/04/05/latest-sundays-lds/
April 2020 World Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqT1bPmYb8
Mosiah 4:16-19
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mosiah/4.16-19#16
Crowd-fight COVID-19: an initiative from the scientific community to put all available resources at the service of the fight against COVID-19:
https://crowdfightcovid19.org/
President Nelson Invites World to Participate in Fast on Good Friday
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-invites-world-to-participate-in-fast-on-good-friday
Spoilers ahead! We welcome David, a fellow Berkeley Wardian, as guest to the show today to talk about the final episode of the Good Place and its parallels with LDS views on redemption and exaltation
The Good Place
https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place
Sacred time vs. profine time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return_(Eliade)
The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie
https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/
Fair mormon question
https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Do_Mormons_believe_that_there_is_there_progression_between_the_three_degrees_of_glory%3F
Eternal Misfit, by Roger Terry
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V43_N03_188.pdf
Gospel Principles, Exaltation (includes President Joseph Fielding Smith quote)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-47-exaltation
Apotheosis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotheosis
Michael Schur: “As long as you’re trying, you’re on the right path.”
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-good-places-moral-message-changed-as-much-as-the-ch-1837096810
Stormlight archive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stormlight_Archive
No exit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit
Nothing in Heaven Functions as It Ought, by X.J. Kennedy
https://www.poemtree.com/poems/NothingInHeavenFunctions.htm
He was lookin’ for a podcast to steal. He was in a bind, ‘cause he was way behind, but we wouldn’t accept him as a sponsor for this episode, so neener neener.
Here’s some references!
Gospel topics article
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/satan
Wiki!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan
Recency bias
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
LDS General Conference Corpus
https://www.lds-general-conference.org/
Huckabee Is Not Alone in Ignorance on Mormonism, by Laurie Goodstein
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/us/politics/14mormon.html
Twitter thread from Eric
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1217670280069279744
Michael Ballam 4 lyfe!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ballam
BD: devil
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bd/devil
The Screwtape Letters
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters
There must needs be opposition in all things
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2.p11#p11
Perelandra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra
The Tragedy of King Leere, Goatherd of the la Sals, by Steven L. Peck
https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-King-Leere-Goatherd-Sals/dp/1948218011
1 Corinthians 10:13
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/1-cor/10.p13?lang=eng#p13
Doubt and skepticism is a recurring theme on Face in Hat. Today we look at President Uchtdorf’s 2013 talk, “Come, Join with Us”, which includes the now famous phrase “doubt your doubts.” What does this mean and how do different people in the church interpret it?
“Come, Join with Us”, by President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Oct 2013 General Conference session
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2013/10/come-join-with-us
Heisenberg uncertainty principle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church, by Jana Reese
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0190885203
The Crucible of Doubt: Reflections On the Quest for Faith, by Tera and Fiona Gibbons
https://amzn.to/35Tt1DD
Jane & Emma
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8581198/
https://amzn.to/30pN2jM
My Testimony is My Life, by The Star-Eater
https://www.arch-hive.net/post/my-testimony-is-my-life
2nd Isaiah and the Book of Mormon
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1984/10/i-have-a-question/how-do-we-explain-material-from-isaiah-in-the-book-of-mormon?lang=eng
A very little bit on doubt, by Eric Jepson
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2007/09/very-little-bit-on-doubt-svithe.html
When Doubts and Questions Arise, by Adam Kotter
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2015/03/when-doubts-and-questions-arise
(cited scriptures)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/morm/9.27
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/6.36
Mormons have interesting proscriptions. Some are more open to interpretation than others, and how they are interpreted has changed over our history. We look at the Word of Wisdom, rated R movies, and the Sabbath day as three examples.
D&C 89: The Word of Wisdom
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89
Word of Wisdom gospel topic
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/word-of-wisdom
Thomas G. Alexander, "The Word of Wisdom: From Principle to Requirement", Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 14:3 (1981) pp. 78–88.
http://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V14N03_80.pdf
Handbook 2 on Word of Wisdom (21.3.11)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies-and-guidelines/selected-church-policies
“Vaping, Coffee, Tea, and Marijuana,” New Era article, Aug 2019
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2019/08/vaping-coffee-tea-and-marijuana
Eric’s Twitter conversation about green tea
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1161372166127902720
Wow there is a lot of research about the comma in vs. 13 of the Word of Wisdom. This article especially is great: A. Jane Birch (2014). “Questioning the Comma in Verse 13 of the Word of Wisdom.” Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture 10: 133-149
https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/questioning-the-comma-in-verse-13-of-the-word-of-wisdom/
Hello Internet episode including discussion of The Game Changers, a documentary “about plant-based eating, protein, and strength”
http://www.hellointernet.fm/podcast/130
https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840
Kurzgesagt: Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxvQPzrg2Wg
Word of Wisdom Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom
To the “Youth of the Noble Birthright” - President Ezra Taft Benson, Spring 1986 General Conference, Priesthood session
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1986/04/to-the-youth-of-the-noble-birthright
For the Strength of Youth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_Strength_of_Youth
https://www.docdroid.net/eVNYkuG/1990-for-the-strength-of-youth-lds-standards-of-conduct.pdf#page=12
Gospel topic on the sabbath day
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/sabbath-day
Decisions for Which I've Been Grateful by Clayton M. Christensen (specifically the fourth decision about basketball on Sunday)
http://www2.byui.edu/Presentations/Transcripts/Devotionals/2004_06_08_Christensen.htm
Kim Ho Jik: Korean Pioneer, by Denny Roy (starting with “Brother Kim also made a memorably bold statement of dedication to his faith..”)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/07/kim-ho-jik-korean-pioneer
Church Updates Temple Recommend Interview Questions
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/october-2019-general-conference-temple-recommend
Albert Einstein, C. S. Lewis, Carl Sagan, Paul. Talking about evolution, Adam and Eve, death, and the March of Progress takes us on quite the journey!
Wiki on Mormon views on evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_views_on_evolution
Meanwhile, in Ohio… https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion
Paul’s teaching about faith
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/heb/11.1-40
See also, Alma and the seed
https://churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/32
Intro to evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Peppered moth evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution
Antibodies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody
Speciation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation
Carl Sagan
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/954415-the-secrets-of-evolution-are-death-and-time-the-deaths-of
Carl Sagan - COSMOS - Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpsVSVRsZk
Scriptures on death, Adam and Eve, and the fall
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/6.48
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2.22
Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers, Episode 3, The First Storytellers
https://amzn.to/2D9Myn4
Perelandra, by C. S. Lewis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra
QI, Season 15, episode 10, on the March of Progress (timestamp 26:13)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B078KJ8DKJ
Beyond the Block podcast, What God Hath Cleansed
https://beyondtheblockpodcast.com/episodes/what-god-hath-cleansed-s1!78d3b
Einstein’s quote, “God does not play dice with the universe”
https://www.businessinsider.com/god-does-not-play-dice-quote-meaning-2015-11
Scopes Monkey Trial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial
Drunk history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tyD8qtB4xE
Summer for the Gods by Edward J. Larson https://amzn.to/37yEmuS
1911 Brigham Young University modernism controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Brigham_Young_University_modernism_controversy
Ark Baby by Liz Jensen
https://amzn.to/2XHNMzL
Evolving Faith by Steven L. Peck
https://amzn.to/2O3bgfc
Origin of species
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species
How do LDS works get canonized? Should the King Follet Discourse be scripture? What about other teachings of Joseph Smith or more recent prophets? Lots of references in the show notes for this one. Check them out!
The King Follett Discourse
http://mldb.byu.edu/follett.htm
Mormon Literature Online Anthology Sampler, Selections from various genres and periods of Mormon Literature
http://mldb.byu.edu/mlitsamp.htm
Wiki for the King Follett Discourse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Follett_discourse
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, by Joseph Fielding Smith (1938)
https://scriptures.byu.edu/tpjs/STPJS.pdf
Gospel Principles, Ch. 47 Exaltation
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-47-exaltation
Wiki standard works
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_works
Wiki common consent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_consent
Proclamations, declarations clarify, reaffirm LDS doctrine, by Julie Dockstader (includes quote from Edward J. Brandt)
https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/1999-11-06/proclamations-declarations-clarify-reaffirm-lds-doctrine-121422
Proclamations of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, by Robert J. Matthews
https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Proclamations_of_the_First_Presidency_and_the_Quorum_of_the_Twelve_Apostles
Closing Remarks, by President Russell M. Nelson, Sunday Afternoon session, October 2019 General Conference (includes information about upcoming Spring 2020 General Conference)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/57nelson
The Family, A Proclamation to the World
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family:_A_Proclamation_to_the_World
Women across the globe hope to follow and change LDS Church, their families as they unleash their influence, by Karissa Neely (includes quotes by Melissa Inouye)
https://www.heraldextra.com/special-section/lds/fall2019/the-global-power-of-women-in-the-lds-church/article_80c77d5f-8712-5011-b255-db29a6473dd4.html
More by Melissa Inouye: Crossings: A Bald Asian American Latter-day Saint Woman Scholar's Ventures Through Life, Death, Cancer, and Motherhood (2019)
https://amzn.to/32BKVJp
David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory Prince and Wm. Robert Wright (2005)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_O._McKay_and_the_Rise_of_Modern_Mormonism
“The perfect union of man and woman”: reclamation and collaboration in Joseph Smith’s theology making, by Fiona Givens
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V49N01_99.pdf
Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism, by Jonathan A. Stapley and Kristine Wright. Journal of Mormon History Vol. 37, No. 1, Winter 2011, pp 1-85 (see page 57)
https://mormonhistoryassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Journal-of-Mormon-History-Vol.-37-Issue-1-2011.pdf
For the start of season 2, Aaron and Eric chat about the Millenium, signs of the second coming, transhumanism, and what % of the world is going to what % of hell in what % of a handbasket :)
Gospel topics second coming/millennium
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/second-coming-of-jesus-christ
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/millennium
5 myths about the millennium by Robert L. Millet
http://www.ldsliving.com/5-Millennium-Myths-You-Thought-Were-True/s/76486
Gospel principles
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-43-signs-of-the-second-coming
Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
War
https://youtu.be/NbuUW9i-mHs
Parasites
https://youtu.be/qNWWrDBRBqk
Overpopulation
https://youtu.be/QsBT5EQt348
Our world in data
https://ourworldindata.org
D&C 19
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19
Transhumanism links
https://transfigurism.org/mormon-transhumanist-affirmation
Paradisiacal Glory by Katherine Cowley
https://lit.mormonartist.net/2019/07/paradisiacal-glory-katherine-cowley/
Brigham Young quote (from twitter :)
https://twitter.com/Keepapitchinin/status/1167127582489206785
Joel Pett climate summit cartoon
http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=41786
Nephi Anderson’s novel Added Upon
https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/17249
Gospel of Thomas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas
Isaiah 64:4
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/64.4
What do mummies, papyrus, and a great fire have to do with modern scripture? Join us as we look at the broad meaning of the word translation and how it can be applied to Joseph Smith’s work and the Pearl of Great Price.
Changes to the Lord’s Prayer
https://www.ucatholic.com/news/pope-francis-approves-changes-to-lords-prayer-gloria-of-italian-missal/
Joseph Smith’s translation of the Lord’s Prayer
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/jst/jst-matt/6.14
Wiki: Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible
Gospel topics essay: Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng&_r=1
Abraham 3:22-23
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/abr/3.22-23?lang=eng#p22
Wiki: Critical appraisal of the Book of Abraham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_appraisal_of_the_Book_of_Abraham
Letters to a Young Mormon (pages 32 and 34), by Adam S. Miller
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20427135-letters-to-a-young-mormon
South Park!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_Mormons
Let’s talk about aliens! Our hosts discuss the Fermi paradox, Drake’s equation and SETI, and then cover how Mormon doctrines about many worlds relate to the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
Wiki links!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Follett_discourse
Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell
The Fermi Paradox — Where Are All The Aliens? Parts 1 and 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQkVqno-uI
60 minutes interview with President Hinckley. Note this video doesn’t have the quote we mentioned which was actually from a Time article. We include here a FairMormon article discussing how President Hinckley was actually taken a bit out of context in that article.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK0PxT5Vm4g
https://www.fairmormon.org/archive/publications/does_president_hinckley_understand_lds_doctrine
Literature!
Leviathan Wakes, by James S. A. Corey
https://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-Wakes-James-S-Corey/dp/0316129089
"Avek, Who Is Distributed" (story about baptizing an AI)
online:
https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/avek-who-is-distributed/
Original discussion page:
https://motleyvision.org/2012/10/26/discuss-avek-who-is-distributed-by-steven-peck/
Collected here: https://amzn.to/2JbcZx8
Monsters & Mormons: https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245
"Let the Mountains Tremble for Adoniha Has Fallen" by Steven L. Peck (medieval Mormons on Mars)
"Bokev Momen" by D. Michael Martindale (aliens rescue adducted missionary)
"That Leviathan Whom Thou Hast Made" by Eric James Stone (aliens that live in the Sun)
not included in discussion: "First Estate" by Katherine Woodbury: Mormon Ruth and her alien Boaz
Johnson, Hollis R. (1992), "Worlds", in Ludlow, Daniel H (ed.), Encyclopedia of Mormonism, New York: Macmillan Publishing, pp. 1595–96, ISBN 0-02-879602-0, OCLC 24502140
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/EoM/id/4358
Our hosts discuss the book “The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy,” by Carol Lynn Pearson.
The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson:
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208
Eric’s literary works:
The Widower: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V42N02_137.pdf
The Prophetess of Mars: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NSJMQBV
Book review by Rebecca J
https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/12/28/book-reviewish-carol-lynn-pearsons-the-ghost-of-eternal-polygamy/
Privileged, by Kyle Korver
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba
Too sacred for public consumption -or- Disgusting the prophet’s wife, blog entry by Eric
https://motleyvision.org/2009/07/09/too-sacred-for-public-consumption-or-disgusting-the-prophets-wife/
The panel honoring Carol Lynn Pearson: AML Conference 2019. Quote from 1:28:57-1:31:25:
http://associationmormonletters.org/blog/2019/04/carol-lynn-pearson-2019/
The 2019 Association for Mormon Letters conference was excellent. Our hosts use some of the panels as a means to discuss Mormon literature in general, focusing on the work of Carol Lynn Pearson, and on the new church history book, Saints.
Authors mentioned: Brandon Sanderson, Orson Scott Card, and DJ Butler. Favorite books by them:
Mistborn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistborn
Ender’s Game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game
Witchy Eye: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30753675-witchy-eye
Carol Lynn Pearson: books mentioned: Beginnings, the Ghost of Eternal Polygamy, and Goodbye, I love you. The poem, A Motherless House:
http://www.amotherhere.com/coll/pearson1.php
The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy will be discussed on a future episode:
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208
The Saint’s panel was comprised of authors Scott Hales, James Goldberg, Melissa Leilani Larson, and Angela Hallstrom. Some of their work:
The Garden of Enid: http://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/
The Five Books of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Books-Jesus-James-Goldberg/dp/1479271306
Jane and Emma: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8581198
Bound on Earth: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2793921-bound-on-earth
Heavenly Mother is one of the most interesting Latter-Day Saint doctrines! We don't know a lot, but what we do know is awesome. Enjoy!
Oh My Father
https://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/o-my-father
LDS topics, Mother in Heaven
https://www.lds.org/topics/mother-in-heaven
"A Mother There": A Survey of Historical Teachings about Mother in Heaven, by Author David L. Paulsen, Author Martin Pulido
https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/mother-there-survey-historical-teachings-about-mother-heaven
How to worship our Mother in Heaven (without getting excommunicated) by Kevin L. Barney
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V41N04_133.pdf
AML conference program
https://bitly.com/aml2019prog
Poems!
Walk in the pink moccasins by Carol Lynn Pearson
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/137-21-25.pdf
Motherless House by Carol Lynn Pearson
http://www.amotherhere.com/coll/pearson1.php#sthash.CcHmwUg0.dpbs
A hymn for mother’s day in long meter, by Theric Jepson
http://amotherhere.com/coll/jepson.php#sthash.492OBnkp.Cnftw0gn.dpbs
Do we have free will? Is your neighbor a philosophical zombie? Are we living in a simulation? Our hosts hit scriptures, sci fi, and neurobiology to discuss agency and determinism in religion and science.
References
https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-4-freedom-to-choose
Arcadia from Tom Stoppard (mentioned in passing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(play)
JST as an anti-determinist text. Compare https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/ex/10 and http://classic.scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents
The Hard Problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hard_Problem
Wiki article on the hard problem of consciousness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness
Joseph Campbell on consciousness https://amzn.to/2XuL9jW
Infinite monkey cage podcast. Two episodes:
Are We Living in a Simulation? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08zb4d8
The Mind v the Brain https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0901bw2
Theric’s story http://bit.ly/thafterlife
Good Time (words: Vasilis Pozios | Pictures: Zakk Saam) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tylerchintanner/all-we-ever-wanted-stories-of-a-better-world
Pascal’s wager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
What's expected of us, by Ted Chiang: https://www.nature.com/articles/436150a
"Art is that over which beings with perfect knowledge can still have divergent viewpoints." ----D. Michael Martindale https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2011/08/found-quotes.html
Secret or sacred? Taboo or simply uncomfortable? Important or trivial? With the temple ceremony changes in the news lately, our hosts discuss why Mormons don’t go into the ceremony specifics, what kinds of venues are appropriate for difficult subjects, and when it’s appropriate to espouse the virtue of silence. Also, awesome 80’s comics apparently helped change the church?
First Presidency Statement on Temples
https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/temple-worship
Temple firesides in prep for the open house, including topics on Eve, the creation, and the temple experience.
Tweetstorm from @MattathiasW regarding silence and the temple ceremony
https://twitter.com/MattathiasW/status/1081576820057681920
Eric’s tweet requesting examples of some things Latter-day Saints shy away from speaking of
https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1085779539668566016
Laugh precedes the miracle:: How Calvin Grondahl and Pat Bagley Changed Mormonism, by Lynne Gorton Cropper. The specific comic referred to in the episode is reproduced in this article.
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/laughs-precede-the-miracle-how-calvin-grondahl-and-pat-bagley-changed-mormonism/
The virtue of silence, by Scott Alexander. In the episode we cite this article but go in a different direction. It’s worth checking out the original topic.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/14/the-virtue-of-silence/
Our hosts look at how money moves through the church and some of the fascinating history behind its finances.
Church’s statement on its finances from 2018:
https://www.lds.org/church/news/read-a-summary-of-the-financial-information-released-by-the-church
Wiki article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
LDS Inc article from By Common Consent:
https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/06/02/lds-inc/
Mentioned by Eric but not really on topic ;) A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870, by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
https://books.google.com/books/about/?id=0fmxDQAAQBAJ
Money as debt website:
http://www.moneyasdebt.net/
Playlist with the full documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdMxiaZGboJSgU2raUksCFGSUfWS8eHR8
Aaron and Eric introduce the podcast! Our hosts discuss critical thinking and its application to LDS miscellany and they describe their Berkeley influences. Also a magic card comes up, but it feels natural.
Magic card!
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/skewer-the-critics
Wikipedia on critical thinking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking
Eric’s reviews of the two books mentioned, Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover and The New York Regional Mormon Singles Halloween Dance by Elna Baker
https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2018/09/what-weird-expression-this-is.html#081
https://motleyvision.org/2009/10/14/elna-baker-slash-damage-control
In which Aaron and Eric grapple with theodicy, aka the problem of evil given a benevolent God, as presented by Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. After going over some feedback from our pilot episode, we tackle theodicy and how it relates to DNA replication, Euclidean geometry and evolution.
SMBC comic on which the episode is based, by Zach Weinersmith: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-06-30
Theodicy! By wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy
Geometry! "It is not possible to prove every statement... nevertheless, we should prove as many statements as possible." https://themathpage.com/aBookI/first.htm
Evolving Faith - Wanderings of a Mormon Biologist, by Steven L. Peck https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27137644-evolving-faith---wanderings-of-a-mormon-biologist
In which Aaron talks with Eric about Joseph Smith's seer stone.
References:
Seer stone and additional photos from 2015 Ensign article
Main FairMormon article
Brant A Gardner, FairMormon conference, 2009
About FairMormon
Religion of a different color by W. Paul Reeve
Pictures:
Joseph and his hat
Joseph Smith Translating
Emma and Joseph