Face in Hat: Recent Episodes

Aaron Brewster & Eric Jepson

LDS Miscellany through a Berkeley Lens

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We are so pleased to have Matt, Berkeley Ward Bishop from 2008-2013 on our show today! Today’s chapter of American Zion, Showtime, 1995-2012, covers an important part of our Ward’s history, when Prop 8 was voted on in California to ban gay marriage. Matt talks about his experiences being a church leader at the time and provides some excellent inside info. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

The rise of the liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/

4.3 Liberal hair lengths (where we covered that article before)

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/43-liberal-hair-lengths/

2008 California Proposition 8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8

George Hugh Niederauer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hugh_Niederauer

The bit from Matt about $5k donations from stake presidents: this is inside info :)

Props to Obama, Did he help push California’s gay-marriage ban over the top? By Farhad Manjoo

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2008/11/did-barack-obama-help-push-california-s-proposition-8-over-the-top.html?pay=1781372928803&support_journalism=please

The Root: The Misjudged Black Vote On Gay Marriage, by David Kaufman

https://www.npr.org/2011/03/04/134257733/the-root-the-misjudged-black-vote-on-gay-marriage

Prop 8 Protesting Turns Ugly, by Will Frampton

https://web.archive.org/web/20110608063501/http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=50266

November 2015 policy change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_and_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints#November_2015_policy_change

Prop 8: The Musical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o

"8": A Play about the Fight for Marriage Equality

https://www.youtube.com/live/qlUG8F9uVgM

3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/

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We felt “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” deserved its own minisode, so join us as we take a modern look at this document, nearly wrapping up our tour of American Zion by Benjamin Park. Two more to go!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

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YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

The Family: A Proclamation to the World

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world

Raising Kids and Running a Household: How Working Parents Share the Load

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2015/11/04/raising-kids-and-running-a-household-how-working-parents-share-the-load/

Almost 1 in 5 stay-at-home parents in the U.S. are dads

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/

The Proclamation on Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family:_A_Proclamation_to_the_World

More from Melissa Inouye

https://substack.com/profile/180982606-melissa-inouye

The Plan and the Proclamation, by Elder (now President) Dallin H. Oaks

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2017/10/the-plan-and-the-proclamation

The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks. This is a more recent talk that also mentions the proclamation. It also includes talk of President Oaks’ own family, including his father.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks

“There Is Always a Struggle”: An Interview with Chieko N. Okazaki, by Gregory A. Prince

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/there-is-always-a-struggle-an-interview-with-chieko-n-okazaki/

Source of Eric’s quote about W. H. Pugmire

https://lordbassingtonbassington.blogspot.com/2009/12/queen-of-eldritch-horror.html

My AMV interview with the Queen of Eldritch Horror, by Eric Jepson

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2010/02/my-amv-interview-with-queen-of-eldritch.html

New York Doll (2005)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/

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In the 1970s, Leonard Arrington formed an enclave of church scholars and historians that had such an open attitude of research and discovery that they called it Camelot. By the early 90s, attitudes had shifted greatly against these “so-called” intellectuals, and not just them but also feminists and LGBTQ groups. The road from Camelot had many twists and turns. Join us as we read the next chapter of American Zion, “Fault Lines, 1970-1995.”

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YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

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Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Leonard J. Arrington

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_J._Arrington

Likely the quote about false robes of the priesthood is not Packer but Nibley?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSjE2Ks38uE&t=1s

September Six

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_Six

For more info on President Oak’s comments on religious freedom and past and present policies, see Nathan Oman’s book!

Living Oracles: Law and the Latter-day Saint Tradition, by Nathan B. Oman

https://www.amazon.com/Living-Oracles-Latter-day-Saint-Tradition/dp/0197825818

He also gave a talk recently!

https://vimeo.com/1171661828

Lester E. Bush Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_E._Bush_Jr.

The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf

Zootopia Exposed! (Part Two)

https://overcast.fm/+AA5IlBTodVE

LDS Genesis Group

https://www.ldsgenesisgroup.org/

Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich

Carol Lynn Pearson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Lynn_Pearson

Fascinating Womanhood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood

The God Makers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Makers

Saturday’s Warrior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior

Added Upon: A Story, by Nephi Anderso

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1508762.Added_Upon

Moral Majority

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

Woman’s Exponent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman%27s_Exponent

Exponent II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponent_II

Equal Rights Amendment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

Solus, by Anonymous

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/solus/

“Well behaved women rarely make history”, quote by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurel_Thatcher_Ulrich#.22Well-behaved_women_seldom_make_history.22

A House Full of Females, by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_House_Full_of_Females

Phyllis Schlafly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly

Sonia Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Johnson

Crossing the Rubicon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Rubicon

The Miracle of Forgiveness, by Spencer W. Kimball

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracle_of_Forgiveness

The band Eric mentioned, fronted by Amy Gileadi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunfall_Festival

Margaret Merrill Toscano work on Dialogue

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-journal-authors/margaret-merrill-toscano/

Strengthening Church Members Committee

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strengthening_Church_Members_Committee

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End of the year show! We cover topics from the tail end of the Doctrine and Covenants that have been kicking around in our heads. We’ll be back next year continuing with more of American Zion!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Berkeley Ward Centennial

https://berkeleyward.org/100/

D&C 135

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/135?lang=eng

Praise to the Man, Hymn 27

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng

Original lyrics of Praise to the Man

https://bhroberts.org/records/6kQ26b-UhyHjb/lyrics_to_joseph_smith_praise_to_the_man_originally_published_in_1844

More on the conspiracy against Joseph being infiltrated in the book Saints:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1/43-a-public-nuisance?lang=eng#p21

Joseph and Emma Grow Old Together, by Eric Jepson

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2018/06/joseph-and-emma-grow-old-together-by-eric-jepson/

Culprit (single) by LOYAL WIFE. Check this out, it’s awesome!

https://sunsetalliance.bandcamp.com/album/culprit-single

Official Declaration 1

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng

The Messenger and the Manifesto, by Jed Woodworth

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-messenger-and-the-manifesto?lang=eng

Episode 1.8, Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Seminary manual, Doctrine and Covenants 132:1–2, 34–66, Plural Marriage

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-seminary-teacher-manual-2025/453-doctrine-and-covenants-132-1-2-34-66?lang=eng

Polygamy google search

https://www.google.com/search?q=was+polygamy+a+commandment+lds

Newsroom link: Polygamy: Latter-day Saints and the Practice of Plural Marriage

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/polygamy-latter-day-saints-and-the-practice-of-plural-marriage

Fanny Alger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanny_Alger

Lots of details on Fanny Alger on fairlatterdaysaints.org:

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Joseph_Smith/Polygamy/Plural_wives/Fanny_Alger/Discovered_in_a_barn

Encouraging Joseph Smith to Practice Plural Marriage: The Accounts of the Angel with a

Drawn Sword, by Brian C. Hales

https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Encouraging-Joseph-Smith-to-Practice-Plural-Marriage-The-Accounts-of-the-Angel-with-a-Drawn-Sword.pdf

Statement on Polygamy by Brian C. Hales

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/testimonies/scholars/brian-c-hales

Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Elizabeth_Rollins_Lightner

A note about “Father, Mother, Mother, and Mom”, Orson Scott Card’s musical about polygamy, is on his wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card_bibliography#Plays

A pdf version is available!

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/006-f1-f16.pdf

Pop Culture on the Apricot Tree, a podcast dedicated to discussing pop culture from a Latter-day Saint perspective

https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/

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Back to American Zion! Today we look at the chapter “One Family Under God”, 1945-70. Themes of civil rights, womanhood, and intellectualism are brought together as we look deeper at the post-WWII world of Mormonism!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

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YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Berkeley Ward Centennial

https://berkeleyward.org/100/

Sterling McMurrin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_M._McMurrin

Joseph Fielding Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Fielding_Smith

Man, His Origin and Destiny, by Joseph Fielding Smith, is discussed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_views_on_evolution#Joseph_Fielding_Smith

J. Edward Johnson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edward_Johnson

Free Speech Movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement

Hugh Nibley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Nibley

No Man Knows My History, by Fawn M. Brodie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History

No, Ma'am, That's Not History, by Hugh Nibley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No,_Ma%27am,_That%27s_Not_History

The Mountain Meadows Massacre (1950) by Juanita Brooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)

Mormon Doctrine (book), by Bruce R. McConkie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)

The Giant Joshua, by Maurine Whipple

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Giant_Joshua

Too sacred for public consumption -or- Disgusting the prophet’s wife, by Eric Jepson

https://motleyvision.org/2009/07/09/too-sacred-for-public-consumption-or-disgusting-the-prophets-wife/

Eugene England

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_England

Truman G. Madsen (includes note he directed the Berkeley LDS Institute of Religion)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truman_G._Madsen

Preliminary work from the author of the dissertation mentioned

https://latterdatasaints.org/author/elena/

Example, A Timeline of LDS Sunday School Manuals: 1972-Present, by Elena H. Call:

https://latterdatasaints.org/a-timeline-of-lds-sunday-school-manuals-1972-present/#more-1260

Elias: An Epic of the Ages, by Orson F. Whitney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias:_An_Epic_of_the_Ages

Short Creek raid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_Creek_raid

The big article on the priesthood ban in Dialog, by Lester E. Bush

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V08N01_13.pdf

Truth & Treason (2025 movie)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason

Zelophehad’s Daughters

https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/

Helen Andelin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Andelin

Fascinating Womanhood, by Helen Andelin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascinating_Womanhood

The Feminine Mystique, by Betty Friedan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique

The Stepford Wives (2004 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stepford_Wives_(2004_film)

Indian Placement Program

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Placement_Program

The Night Watchman, by Louise Erdrich

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watchman_(novel)

(atonement poem), by Theric Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/atonement-poem/

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With the rest of the church we mourn the passing of President Nelson. In this show we look back on his life and we talk about the future, including chatting about President Oak’s October 2025 conference talk. The decision to focus on birthrates was interesting, so that prompted a deep dive, from Saturday’s Warrior to South Korea. Would love to hear your own takes!

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YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

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Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

President Russel M. Nelson wiki

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_M._Nelson

President Russell M. Nelson on the Healing Power of Gratitude​

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i51gcWCs-Ho

An Interview With Gordon Hinckley by Mike Wallace

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/

President Dallin H. Oaks wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallin_H._Oaks

Carthage Conspiracy, by Dallin H. Oaks and Marvin S. Hill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_Conspiracy

Legal Eagle

https://www.youtube.com/legaleagle

Truth & Treason (2025 movie)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_%26_Treason

The Family-Centered Gospel of Jesus Christ, by President Dallin H. Oaks, President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2025/10/58oaks

The End of Children, by Gideon Lewis-Kraus

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/03/03/the-population-implosion

Sex Without Women, What happens when men prefer porn? By Caitlin Flanagan

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/sex-without-women/682064/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6JS-14VnM4BwMPCcn3UgkUM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

What Women Wish They’d Known Before Trying to Get Pregnant. Many Americans lack basic fertility knowledge. More robust sex ed could help. By Olga Khazan

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/09/sex-ed-school-fertility/684079/?gift=7Dmgya6WfQQSjX_hzD7e6N-IKckFrqX-zdDLAPsolPM&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Zero Population

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHlEYgiM08

Saturday's Warrior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday%27s_Warrior

The Population Bomb, by Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_Bomb

2.1 Millennial musings: this is our early take on overpopulation, and cites the first Kurzgesagt video

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/

Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

Why Humans Are Vanishing, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBudghsdByQ

SOUTH KOREA IS OVER, Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufmu1WD2TSk

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We’re back from summer and let's keep this season going! Today we focus on Chapter 6, The Perils of Reform: 1920-1945, from Benjamin Park’s book: American Zion. Many threads connect the topics, but the contest between the modernity of the early part of the 20th century and resistance to change mark the struggle for the LDS church at this time. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Amy B. Lyman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman

D&C 29:34,”Wherefore, verily I say unto you that all things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/29#34

J. Reuben Clark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark

Our David O’McKay season was actually season 3! Here’s an example episode, with topics on politics and such. 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/

John Birch Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

No wiki on Nephi Johnson, but lots of articles out there on him :)

Juanita Brooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks

The Mountain Meadows Massacre (book)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mountain_Meadows_Massacre_(book)

3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/

3.11 Poetry, Spies, and the Church Education System

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/311-poetry-spies-and-the-church-education-system/

B. H. Roberts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts

Studies of the Book of Mormon, by B. H. Roberts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_of_the_Book_of_Mormon

“Now, if you mean it-I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want you to use any drug that creates an appetite for itself.” -Heber J Grant, April 1921

https://ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8061

Heber J Grant: stories of baseball and penmanship are here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heber_J._Grant

Welfare and Self Reliance

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/topic/welfare-and-self-reliance

Fawn M. Brodie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_M._Brodie

3.7 Tolerance: this might be the episode where we talked about David O’Mckay and Fawn Brodie

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/37-tolerance/

“$32 million deficit in 1962”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_the_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

Saints, Volume 3, Boldly, Nobly, and Independent, 1893–1955

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v3

The Mormon Typology: Mapping a Changing Faith

https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/the-mormon-typology-mapping-a-changing

Another Data Source Confirms Typology Findings

https://mormonmetrics.substack.com/p/multiple-data-sources-confirm-typology

Thubrina, by Theric Jepson

https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/thubrina/f0c86c78-3b42-35b0-afdf-40d6b81d25db.html

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1890-1920 was a period of great progress among the LDS Saints but came with key compromises that began the assimilation of LDS culture and into the broader American people. Join us as we look at this era, continuing our trip through American Zion by Benjamin Park!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

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YouTube channel! Thanks Eric!

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat

https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Letter to the Editor: Reconciliation and Truth, by Robert A. Rees

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/letter-to-the-editor-reconciliation-and-truth/

Jesus the Christ, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_the_Christ_(book)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/jesus-the-christ?lang=eng

Articles of Faith, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articles_of_Faith_(Talmage_book)

The Great Apostasy, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Apostasy_(book)

The House of the Lord, by James E. Talmage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_House_of_the_Lord

Ten Thousand, xkcd

http://xkcd.com/1053/

Jane Manning James (wiki article)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Manning_James

Jane Elizabeth Manning James (LDS article)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/jane-elizabeth-manning-james

Jane and Emma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_and_Emma

They stole Yogi Berra’s World Series rings. Then they did something really crazy, by Ariel Sabar

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/02/sports-memorabilia-heist-yogi-berra-world-series-rings/681093/

On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century, by Timothy Snyder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

Ephesians 2:19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/eph/2?lang=eng&id=p19#p19

Seer stone (Latter Day Saints)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seer_stone_(Latter_Day_Saints)

D&C 138

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/138

The Truth of a Dream: A Conversation with Theric Jepson, on the Dialogue Out Loud podcast

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/the-truth-of-a-dream-a-conversation-with-theric-jepson/

I Dreamed of Oil, by Theric Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/i-dreamed-of-oil/

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Run and hide! Today we jump into the 1870s and 80s to see what made our beloved ancestors be so eager to ditch the law and go underground. (Spoilers, it’s more polygamy!). Part of our ongoing series covering American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park!

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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

A Mormon Maid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Mormon_Maid

Emmeline B. Wells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Polygamy (Polygyny, Polyandry), by Miriam Koktvedgaard Zeitzen

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781118924396.wbiea1377

Find Randy Astle on the AML Discord server! Eric can spot you an invite. AML:

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/

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Polygamy, Racism and Indian affairs. These stories dominated Chapter 3 of American Zion by Benjamin E. Park, “Of empires and wars, 1846-69”. Come for the historical controversy but stay for the good vibes at the end!

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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Pioneer Children sang as they walk, words and music by: Elizabeth Fetzer Bates

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/music/songs/pioneer-children-sang-as-they-walked

Legacy (1993)

https://youtu.be/TZALT-fK9Ao?si=vN-6uAZMRRW485dD

Walker Lewis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Lewis

Chief Walkara

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkara

The Angel (2024), directed by Barrett Burgin, Jess Burgin

https://letterboxd.com/film/the-angel-2024/

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Commentary: New LDS curriculum flops in teaching eternal polygamy to children, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/13/new-lds-curriculum-flops-teaching/

Emmeline B. Wells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells

(Aaron) Note the comment on Emmeline changing her mind was actually in relation to Emily Dow Partridge (note the redirects if you click on this link)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily%20Dow%20Partridge?redirect=no

Phoebe Pendleton Woodbury: not a lot of her online. Dr. Park is citing letters to her children

Into the Headwinds: Why Belief Has Always Been Hard―and Still Is, by Terryl Givens and Nathaniel Givens

https://a.co/d/59qRjS1

(Aaron) Couldn’t find the tiger roar/rattlesnake article :)

You are Two, by CGP Grey

https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=Z1qkIrKNMLMJL3K_

Episode 5.4 Agency and its opposition

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/54-agency-and-its-opposition/

Moroni: a brief theological introduction (The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions 12), by David F Holland

https://a.co/d/7lkNflh

After transcribing 1.2 million of his words, this researcher has something to say about Brigham Young, by Jacob Hess, about LaJean Purcell Carruth

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2024/10/10/new-discoveries-about-brigham-young/

Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-brigham-young

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

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“O My Father”, and the Council of Fifty! Let’s wrap up chapter 2 of “American Zion” in a quick show for the end of the year!

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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Eliza R. Snow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliza_R._Snow

“Invocation, or The Eternal Father and Mother” or “O my father”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_My_Father

Testimony in Art: John Hafen's Illustrations for “O My Father”, by Dawn Pheysey

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/byusq/vol36/iss1/5/

John Hafen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hafen

A Little Lower than the Angels, by Virginia Sorensen

https://www.amazon.com/Little-Angels-Signature-Morman-Classics/dp/1560851031

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Hosea Stout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosea_Stout

Council of Fifty, Church History topic

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/council-of-fifty

Council of Fifty on wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Fifty

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

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Part one of our journey through Chapter 2 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”, “The Voice of the People,1831-46.” This history is a rollercoaster of emotion! Also, we have just so many show notes. Check them out and be sure to join us on Discord!

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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Not a lot about Laura Hubble out there, but this Historical Introduction to D&C 43 seems relevant:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/church-historians-press/jsp-revelations/dc-043-1831_02_01_000

Peter Kerr (Black Pete)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kerr_(priest)

Episode 1.8 Polygamy’s Ghost

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-8-polygamy-s-ghost/

Carol Lynn Pearson, Radiant Mormonism Award, recorded by Paris Fox

https://vimeo.com/1018163129

Saints Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1

Century of Black Mormons

https://exhibits.lib.utah.edu/s/century-of-black-mormons/page/welcome

Missouri Executive Order 44

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Executive_Order_44

Related to the ‘am I better for suffering’ section of the pod: Opinion | A man at work, A half century of George Will

https://wapo.st/4g7HdgJ

Quote: “In “The Roosevelts,” George, the conservative thinker, found empathy at the core of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. “Polio gave FDR the gift of empathy. There was no suffering that he could not in some sense relate to,” George explained. “Just as the irons were clapped on his legs, the steel entered his soul by having to fight through the constant pain of therapy that was unforgiving in its demands and not very fulfilling in its success.””

Episode 1.2 Theodicy and the Red Ball

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-2-theodicy-and-the-red-ball/

Not sure about the last Shaker Eric mentioned, but this is probably relevant: There Are Only Two Shakers Left. They’ve Still Got Utopia in Their Sights, by Jordan Kisner

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/magazine/shakers-utopia.html

James 1: 5-6

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%201%3A5-6&version=KJV

Tumult of opinions quote is from Joseph Smith - History:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1#p10

Oakland Stake First Vision Lecture Series - Eric Jepson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k

Wiki on Limbo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo

(Really enjoyed finding this -Aaron) Comparison of the texts of Doctrine and Covenants 76 and Joseph Smith’s poetic rendition of The Vision, Courtesy of Dr. Lawrence Flake from his book “Three Degrees of Glory”

https://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~clement/rel325/vision-poem.pdf

The Drowned World, by J. G. Ballard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Drowned_World

Revised Plat of the City of Zion, circa Early August 1833

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/revised-plat-of-the-city-of-zion-circa-early-august-1833/1

The Maine story might have been Vermont, see Building Zion: the controversial plan for a Mormon-inspired city in Vermont, by Claire Provost

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/31/building-zion-controversial-plan-mormon-inspired-city-vermont

Defunctland: Walt Disney's City of the Future, E.P.C.O.T.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKYEXjMlKKQ

Wiki on the Book of Commands mentions the teenage sisters Caroline and Mary Elizabeth Rollins who saved the “remnants of nearly 100 copies” from an anti-Mormon fire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Commandments

Latest issue of Dialogue (Volume 57, No. 3) which includes works by Eric Jepson and William Morris (former guest of the show)

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/fall-2024/

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Welcome to season 7! We are starting by reviewing the Prologue and Chapter 1 of Dr. Benjamin Park’s book, “American Zion”. The first single volume history of the Church in over a decade, and taking advantage of new sources, it’s an excellent way to get some good old Mormon history. This was fun!

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American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

Parks and Recollection, with Jim O’Heir and Greg Levine

https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection

Saints, Volume 1, The Standard of Truth, 1815–1846

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/saints-v1

History of Joseph Smith by His Mother, by Lucy Mack Smith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Joseph_Smith_by_His_Mother

Thomas B. Griffith

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_B._Griffith

The Book of Mormon (musical)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Mormon_(musical)

Alexander Campbell (minister)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Campbell_(minister)

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

James 1:5

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/james/1#p5

Burned-over district

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district

The Glass Looker: The Collected Tales of Joseph Smith, by Mark Elwood

https://theglasslooker.com/

Hero's journey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero%27s_journey

An Interview With Gordon Hinckley, by Mike Wallace (this includes the boat and garments story)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/

William Apess

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Apess

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Settle in for Movie Night! Aaron and Eric each picked movies that they argued had LDS or interesting religious themes. Do you agree or have other picks? Let us know on discord!

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The Religious Affiliation of Director George Lucas

https://web.archive.org/web/20050612235541/http://www.adherents.com/people/pl/George_Lucas.html

But hey, there is an LDS connection to George Lucas! From the article:

“Lucas eventually came to state that his religion was "Buddhist Methodist." Gary Kurtz, a Latter-day Saint who had studied Comparative Religion extensively in college and on his own, was pivotal in introducing Lucas to Eastern religions (particularly Buddhism) and Native American religion, and discussing with Lucas how best to improve "Star Wars" by giving it a believable but sufficiently universal religious underpinning. Kurtz was the producer of "Star Wars" and "The Empire Strikes Back" and also did some work on the "Star Wars" screenplay.”

Linked to from his wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Lucas#Personal_life

Contact (1997 American film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(1997_American_film)

https://www.amazon.com/Contact-Jodie-Foster/dp/B001AH6ZWY

Hercules (1997 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(1997_film)

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ae19dd2f-a945-442b-a18e-d57fa8f5091f

Eastern Orthodox and Divinization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinization_(Christian)#Eastern_Orthodox

Relevant older Face in Hat episode, “5.2 Divinization and Deity”:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/

The Tree of Life (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tree_of_Life_(film)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B005UKJX4E

“Rituals themselves are actually very boring. They go on and on, beyond your secular tolerance” (The Power of Myth, by Joseph Campbell).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Myth

https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868

Quoted in Why Myth?, by John Bonaduce

https://www.jcf.org/post/why-myth

Aphasia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia

Aphantasia (includes the apple chart for degree of mental visualization)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

Eric may have been referring to this podcast: “The human brain is hardwired to recognize faces. But what if you can't?”, by Emily Kwong, Rachel Carlson, and Rebecca Ramirez

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/26/1198910315/face-blindness-prosopagnosia-memory-aphantasia-sight-imagination

Fred Rogers Acceptance Speech - 1997, The Emmy Awards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upm9LnuCBUM

Wreck-it Ralph 1 and 2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-0cde80b0-5085-447b-b65e-c81a713a90f0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Breaks_the_Internet

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-4f2c48ef-b3f9-4422-9feb-011a17ff2afb

The Official Disney Princess Rules, Explained, by Micaela Pérez Vitale and Samuel Cormier

https://movieweb.com/official-disney-princess-rules/

Navigating Mental Health Comedy with Conservative Parents, Taylor Tomlinson

https://www.tiktok.com/@taylortomlinsoncomedy/video/7288425135990770990

Shanghai Express (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Express_(film)

Coco (2017 film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_(2017_film)

https://www.disneyplus.com/browse/entity-ce1ccdca-f468-4960-b67c-026b01ba42ab

Angels and Seerstones: A Latter Day Saint Folklore Podcast, by Christopher James Blythe and Christine Elyse Blythe

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/angels-and-seerstones-a-latter-day-saint-folklore-podcast/id1693940296

The Tale of the Princess Kaguya (film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Princess_Kaguya_(film)

https://www.amazon.com/Tale-Princess-Kaguya-English-Language/dp/B0817R94P8

The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter

American Zion: A New History of Mormonism, by Benjamin E. Park

https://www.amazon.com/American-Zion-New-History-Mormonism/dp/1631498657

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Today we chat about prophecy, the book of Jarom, and what it means for us to be living in the middle. We draw especially on Sharon J. Harris’s brief theological introduction to Enos, Jarom, Omni. Check it out!

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The Book of Jarom

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jarom/1

Enos, Jarom, Omni: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Sharon J. Harris

https://www.amazon.com/Enos-Jarom-Omni-theological-introduction/dp/0842500154

Wiki: patriarchal blessing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchal_blessing

Irreantum: Stories from the Blue Cherubim

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/21-2-top/

D&C 51:16-17, “…act upon this land as for years…”:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/51?id=p16-17#16

Tales from Pleasant Grove, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Tales-Pleasant-Grove-Steven-Peck/dp/1986604233

No link to the Elder Holland story, it’s something Eric heard on the radio. If someone has a better reference, send it in!

The Hugh B. Brown story can be found in From the East: The History of the Latter-Day Saints in Asia, 1851-1996, by R. Lanier Britsch

https://www.amazon.com/East-History-Latter-Day-Saints-1851-1996/dp/1573452688

Living “as Though” God’s Promises Have Been Fulfilled, by Lori Newbold

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/liahona/2022/02/living-as-though-gods-promises-have-been-fulfilled

The Path and the Gate: Mormon Short Fiction, edited by Andrew Hall, Robert Raleigh, with contribution from Eric Jepson

https://www.amazon.com/Path-Gate-Mormon-Short-Fiction/dp/1560854677

$1 in 1844 money is $41.64!

The Moneyball connection! Retroactively, Aaron remembered the song In Moneyball sung by Kerris Dorsey is a Lenka song, "The Show", which includes the line “I'm just a little bit caught in the middle”. Eh? Totally works!

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The recent Worldwide Relief Society Devotional was awesome! One quote caused a bit of a kerfuffle, which sets the stage for part 3 of our series on women and priesthood. But the devotional really was great! Go watch it! And also listen to this episode :)

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Worldwide Relief Society Devotional

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/event/worldwide-relief-society-devotional-2024

Accessing God’s Power through Covenants, by J. Anette Dennis, First Counselor in the Relief Society General Presidency

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/broadcasts/language-recording/2024/02/14dennis

Midwife of The Wild Frontier, by Melissa Tyler (Author) and Luciana Maruca (Illustrator)

https://amzn.to/3PO0RUh

Instagram post with quote on women, power, and authority

https://www.instagram.com/churchofjesuschrist/p/C4oZ-otMOVL/

Twitter thread on YW fundraiser

https://twitter.com/sunday_southern/status/1770885870847250553

LDS Church gives more power to women than any other religious organization, leader declares, by Tamarra Kemsley

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/17/lds-church-gives-more-power-women/

The Emotional and Priestly Logic of Plural Marriage" (2009), by Kathleen Flake. Utah State University Press, Arrington Annual Lecture. Paper 15

https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/arrington_lecture/15

The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions Boxed Set, including Jacob: A Brief Theological Introduction, by Deidre Nicole Green

https://amzn.to/49rsnhp

Barred by Congress: How a Mormon, a Socialist, and an African American Elected by the People Were Excluded from Office, by Robert M. Lichtman

https://amzn.to/3Ufp3Sh

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Credit, authority, the danger of hierarchies, and how Jewish whiskey relates to fiction, equity, and legislation. Join us in our second of a multipart series on women and the priesthood.

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A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens

https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/

Buying Jewish Whiskey, by Nate Oman

https://www.wayfaremagazine.org/p/buying-jewish-whiskey

The Utopia of Rules: On Technology, Stupidity, and the Secret Joys of Bureaucracy, by David Graeber

https://www.amazon.com/Utopia-Rules-Technology-Stupidity-Bureaucracy/dp/1612195180

Pop culture on the apricot tree, ep 39 - Indiana Jones, Lapsed Latter-day Saint?, hosts Liz Busby and Carl Cranney, guests Matt Bowman and Megan Harris

https://www.popcultureapricottree.com/post/indianajones

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Our first of a multi-part series on women and the Priesthood of the Church. Themes for this part include defining terms, Priesthood vs. religious office, and Priesthood in the past. Join us!

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Men and Women and Priesthood Power, by Elder M. Russell Ballard

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2014/09/men-and-women-and-priesthood-power

Wiki: Mormonism and women

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_women

LDS website: Women and Priesthood

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/callings/relief-society-organization/work-and-purpose/women-and-priesthood

Joseph Smith’s Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/joseph-smiths-teachings-about-priesthood-temple-and-women

Women Are Not Better at Multitasking. They Just Do More Work, Studies Show, by Leah Ruppanner

https://www.sciencealert.com/women-aren-t-better-multitaskers-than-men-they-re-just-doing-more-work

Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden

https://www.amazon.com/Paul-Among-People-Reinterpreted-Reimagined/dp/0385522576

Eric’s initial take on Sarah Ruden: We got mysteries, we got apples, we got St. Paul. . . .

https://thmazing.substack.com/p/we-got-mysteries-we-got-apples

Stapley, Jonathan A. and Wright, Kristine, Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism (January 1, 2011). Journal of Mormon History, Vol. 37, pp. 1-85, Winter 2011, Available at SSRN: https://ssrn.com/abstract=1754069

A Society Meet For Male Priesthood, by Fiona Givens

https://web.archive.org/web/20140223100456/https://difficultrun.nathanielgivens.com/2014/01/20/a-companion-meet-for-male-priesthood/

D&C 25:7: Emma Smith being “ordained” but footnote 7a says “set apart”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/25#p7

History of the Young Women’s Organization Timeline Infographic, by Deborah Owen. Laurels used to be Junior Gleaners!

https://makingprogresspersonal.com/2015/03/history-of-young-women-organization/

Frigid Offices Might Be Killing Women’s Productivity, by Olga Khazan

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/05/warm-offices-women-productivity/589966/

Original study: Tom Y. Chang ,Agne Kajackaite (2019). “Battle for the thermostat: Gender and the effect of temperature on cognitive performance.” PLoS ONE 14(5): e0216362. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0216362

2 Ne 2:25

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p25

How Rare a Possession

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhAsifEMFs

The Book of Mormon: Brief Theological Introductions, by Joseph M. Spencer et. al.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085HJWGSQ

Family Proclamations, by Blair Hodges

https://www.familyproclamations.org/

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Women LDS Relief Society leaders are no longer allowed on the stand in the Bay Area, as covered in Peggy Fletcher Stack’s SL Tribune’s article. On this show, we talk about activism in general, our reaction to this change (not great) and discuss how we think our personal responsibility for revelation needs to be balanced with our need for change to come top down from the Church.

‘A slap in the face’: LDS Relief Society leaders ordered off the stand, by Peggy Fletcher Stack

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/11/24/slap-face-lds-relief-society/

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https://www.youtube.com/@FaceinHat/playlists

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

Why I write, by George Orwell

https://www.orwellfoundation.com/the-orwell-foundation/orwell/essays-and-other-works/why-i-write/

Lukewarm and getting spewed

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/rev/3?lang=eng&id=p15-p16#p15

Eric thinks Peggy Fletcher Stack original art story might not have been written about, if someone had a link let us know and we’ll update the notes here :)

The Star Chamber

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Chamber

Un-American activities committee from the 50s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee

Franklin/Peanuts articles:

Black Isn’t a Personality Type, by John H. McWhorter

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-may-12-op-mcwhorter-story.html

The sweet story behind Peanuts’ groundbreaking first black character, by

Thu-Huong Ha

https://qz.com/571393/the-sweet-story-behind-peanuts-groundbreaking-first-black-character

'Peanuts' First Black Character Franklin Turns 50, by Cecilia Lei and James Delahoussaye

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/29/633544308/peanuts-character-franklin-turns-50

Women at Church: Magnifying LDS Women's Local Impact, by Neylan McBaine

https://www.amazon.com/Women-Church-Magnifying-Womens-Impact/dp/1589586883

Will You Engage in the Wrestle?, by Sheri Dew

https://ing.byui.edu/devotionals/sheri-dew

Jacob wrestling with the angel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_wrestling_with_the_angel

Enos’s wrestle before God

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/enos/1#p2

Cool stuff from Eric we didn’t get to:

Theric Jepson, Danny Nelson and Steven L. Peck: The Path and the Gate

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/theric-jepson-danny-nelson-and-steven-l-peck-the-path-and-the-gate/

Humor in Mormon Literature with Theric Jepson and Stephen Carter

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/humor-in-mormon-literature-with-theric-jepson-and-stephen-carter/

Faci in Hat Podcast episodes referred to in this episode:

2.10 The Columbian Exchange, Wilford Woodruff, and #BlackLivesMatter

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/ep-210-the-columbian-exchange-wilford-woodruff-and-blacklivesmatter/

3.12 Minerva Teichert and the Manti Temple

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/312-minerva-teichert-and-the-manti-temple/

3.13 Close to home: the Church Building Program

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/313-close-to-home-the-church-building-program/

3.14 Paul, the Oakland Temple, and Pride

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/314-paul-the-oakland-temple-and-pride/

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Did you know that we as members of the Church believe in the Book of Revelation? Let’s have some fun and open some seals!

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Look, playlists!

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Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

This is the link for the Seven Seals wiki!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals

The Hofmann Wobble, by Ben Lerner

https://harpers.org/archive/2023/12/the-hofmann-wobble-wikipedia-and-the-problem-of-historical-memory

Eric’s commentary on The Hatred of Poetry by Ben Lerner

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2022/05/books-extralong-edition.html#047

Wikipedia and the danger of trusting its facts, with Scott Tong and Ben Lerner

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2023/12/18/wikipedia-facts-danger

Book of Revelation: Canonical History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Canonical_history

Ussher chronology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ussher_chronology

D&C 77

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/77

Historical Context and Background of D&C 77, Brief Synopsis by Steven C. Harper

https://doctrineandcovenantscentral.org/historical-context/dc-77/

Steven C. Harper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_C._Harper

Interpretations of the Book of Revelations (wiki!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation#Interpretations

Found one bit to answer Eric’s question on Jehova’s Witnesses: “ The visions apply to “the Lord’s day,” which began when God’s Kingdom was set up in 1914 and Jesus began ruling as King. (Revelation 1:​10) We can therefore expect the main fulfillment of Revelation to be in our time.”

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/the-book-of-revelation/

Cleon Skousen. Note the description: “American conservative author with the John Birch Society and a faith-based conspiracy theorist.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Cleon_Skousen

Face in Hat: 3.4 David O. McKay and the confrontation with communism

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/34-david-o-mckay-and-the-confrontation-with-communism/

This is the movie I saw as a kid: Visit Israel with Dr. W. Cleon Skousen: Prophecy

https://www.amazon.com/Visit-Israel-Dr-Cleon-Skousen/dp/B000EHIL7I

Source for LDS 1st seal quote in wiki: McConkie, Bruce R. (1981). Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. III. Salt Lake City, Utah: Bookcraft Publishers. pp. 476–497.

Seminary lesson referenced:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-seminary-teacher-manual-2023/revelation-6-7?lang=eng

New Testament Student Manual: Chapter 54: Revelation 4–11: Revelation 6. The First Six Seals

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-student-manual/revelation/chapter-54-revelation-4-11?lang=eng¶=title17-figure5_35#title17

Good Omens: The Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter, Witch

https://www.amazon.com/Good-Omens-Accurate-Prophecies-Nutter/dp/0060853980

World Happiness Report

https://worldhappiness.report/

Face in Hat: 2.1 Millennial musings

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/21-millennial-musings/

12 billionth person citation: Overpopulation – The Human Explosion Explained, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

Mormon Transfigurism

https://www.transfigurism.org/

https://www.transfigurism.org/library/primers/1-what-is-mormon-transhumanism

The Immortality Upgrade, by Dawn Chan

https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/mormon-transhumanism-and-the-immortality-upgrade

Face in Hat: 1.10 Translation and the Book of Abraham

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/episode-10-translation-and-the-book-of-abraham/

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In 1st Corinthians, Paul teaches about protecting the weak ones by avoiding the appearance of evil. Is this applicable to online discourse? Should we avoid the musty corners of church history or should we investigate? Is there harm in causing doubt, or will that doubt come anyway and is best met head on, guide in hand? We want to frankly look at these questions. Join us, and let us know your thoughts!

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Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

The New Testament: A Translation for Latter-day Saints, Revised Edition, by Thomas A. Wayment

https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Translation-Latter-day-Revised/dp/1589587863

Additional reference for today from Eric that we didn’t get to:

Paul Among the People: The Apostle Reinterpreted and Reimagined in His Own Time, by Sarah Ruden

https://amzn.to/3R8E4DY

Pilot episode for your reference:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/the-man-with-his-face-in-his-hat/

Our grace vs. works episode:

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/58-grace-works-and-foreknowledge/

Chloe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minor_New_Testament_figures#Chloe

The Zipf Mystery, Vsauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCn8zs912OE

Corinthians 8 from The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%208&version=MSG

xkcd: Ten Thousand

https://xkcd.com/1053/

Possible reference for using milk to avoid appearing to drink alcohol: In the World, by Elder L. Tom Perry

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1988/04/in-the-world

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Spoilers for the Barbie movie!!  The Barbie movie takes people into the presence of God and delivers them to the real world.  Join us as we discuss the LDS endowment, existentialism, and heavenly mother as we revel in one of the best movies released in years.

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The Barbie movie transcript we used:

https://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?t=121979

Greta Gerwig Refused to Cut a ‘Barbie’ Scene That’s the ‘Heart of the Movie,’ by Zack Sharf

https://variety.com/2023/film/news/barbie-cut-scene-greta-gerwig-refused-remove-old-woman-bench-scene-1235676474/

(FYI my theater was actually in high school…  -Aaron)

Wiki existentialism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existentialism

What Barbie Understands About Mother-Daughter Relationships, by Suzanne Garfinkle-Crowell

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/barbie-movie-mother-daughter-relationship/674931/

In the beginning, there was Barbie, by Alissa Wilkinson

https://www.vox.com/culture/23800753/barbie-review-bible-eden

Barbiemania! Margot Robbie Opens Up About the Movie Everyone’s Waiting For, by Abby Aguirre

https://www.vogue.com/article/margot-robbie-barbie-summer-cover-2023-interview

Walk in the Pink Moccasins, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/137-21-25.pdf

The Meeting, by Elouise Bell

https://web.archive.org/web/20171008222301/http://signaturebookslibrary.org/only-when-i-laugh-04

The Year They Gave Women the Priesthood, by Michael Fillerup

https://amzn.to/3DXrqQw

The Defection of Baby Mixo, by Mark Penny

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/the-defection-of-baby-mixo

Dialogue Book Report’s episode with Eric’s about his book, Just Julie’s Fine, isn’t quite out yet, but here’s the link to the podcast:

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcast-subjects/book-report

Is ‘Barbie’ an allegory of Mother Eve in LDS theology? | Episode 298 of Mormon Land, by Peggy Fletcher Stack, with Rachel Rueckert as guest.  Referenced from:

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/08/09/mormon-land-is-barbie-an-allegory/

Parks and Recollection

https://teamcoco.com/podcasts/parks-and-recollection

Heavenly Mother is Packing a Suitcase, by Aisling Rowan, part of Birds to Bones

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvOLfPWMh55/

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We welcome Tanner McAlister today as we discuss two articles on the translation of the Book of Mormon. We kick things off using our season’s reference, “Yet to be revealed”, from BYU studies. Grant Hardy’s article “The Book of Mormon Translation Process”, provides an excellent discussion of possible problems and resolutions in the translation of the Book of Mormon. Then Tanner, a scholar of Tibetan Buddhism, walks us through his recent work, “The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel”, published in Dialogue, which draws parallels between the discovery and “translation” of both a class of ancient Tibetan Buddhist scripture and the Book of Mormon. Join us!

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The Book of Mormon Translation Process, by Grant Hardy

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-book-of-mormon-translation-process/

The Production of the Book of Mormon in Light of a Tibetan Buddhist Parallel, by Tanner Davidson McAlister

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/the-production-of-the-book-of-mormon-in-light-of-a-tibetan-buddhist-parallel/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Understanding the Book of Mormon: A Reader's Guide, by Grant Hardy

https://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Book-Mormon-Readers-Guide/dp/0199731705

Kathleen Flake, “Translating Time: The Nature and Function of Joseph Smith’s Narrative Canon,” Journal of Religion 87, no. 4 (2007): 497–527

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/519770

Jared Hickman, “‘Bringing Forth’ the Book of Mormon,” in MacKay, Ashurst-McGee, and Hauglid, Producing Ancient Scripture, 78–80.

Blake T. Ostler, “The Book of Mormon as a Modern Expansion of an Ancient Source,” Dialogue 20, no. 1 (1987): 66–123

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V20N01_68.pdf

James Gentry, “Power Objects” (Leiden: Brill, 2017)

https://brill.com/downloadpdf/book/9789004335042/B9789004335042_001.pdf

Rosalynde Welch, “The New Mormon Theology of Matter,” Mormon Studies Review 4, no. 1 (2017): 70.

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1077&context=msr2

Longchenpa and the Possession of the Dakinis, from Tantra in Practice, by David Germano and Janet Gyatso

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9780691190457-020/html?lang=en

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Two for one! Grace vs. works is one of our favorite topics, and the foreknowledge of God is another! The two articles from BYU Studies we are covering today relate to each other in fascinating ways. Join us as we discuss how we can approach Grace using LDS and Protestant theology, and how the paradoxes of omniscience can be used to discover more about our own relationship with reality, time, and agency. This was a fun one!

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Understandings of the Relationship between Grace and Works, by Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/understandings-of-the-relationship-between-grace-and-works/

On the Foreknowledge of God: Time, Knowledge, Reality, Agency, by Rosalynde F. Welch

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/on-the-foreknowledge-of-god/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

(I think this is the one I was referring to! -Aaron)

After All We Can Do...Grace Works, by Robert L. Millet

https://deseretbook.com/p/after-all-we-can-do-grace-works-robert-l-millet-902?variant_id=132598-paperback

Believing Christ: The Parable of the Bicycle and Other Good News, by Stephen E. Robinson

https://deseretbook.com/p/believing-christ-parable-bicycle-other-good-news-stephen-e-robinson-3355?variant_id=108581-hardcover

Aaron’s top three talks :)

The Mediator, by Elder Boyd K. Packer

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator

The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Elder Bruce R. McConkie

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane

Beware of Pride, by President Ezra Taft Benson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1989/04/beware-of-pride

Pelagianism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelagianism

Original Grace, by Adam S. Miller

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Grace-Adam-S-Miller/dp/1639930248

Book of Mormon infinite atonement: Alma 34: 9-14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/34?lang=eng&id=p9-p14#p9

2 Nephi 9:7

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/9#p7

The Autobiography of Parley Parker Pratt by Parley P. Pratt

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44896

Our episode that includes the Great God by Orson Pratt

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/52-divinization-and-deity/

Exploring Mormon Thought: Volume 1, The Attributes of God, by Blake T. Ostler

https://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Mormon-Thought-Attributes-God-ebook/dp/B0077YUTJE

Gospel Topic: God the Father

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/god-the-father

D&C 130:7, “...past, present, and future… are continually before the Lord.”

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/130?lang=eng&id=p7#p7

The “eternal now” quote: “the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal ‘now.’” History of the Church, 4:597, quoted here:

https://history.churchofjesuschrist.org/content/knowledge-of-gods-plan

If You Could Hie to Kolob

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/music/library/hymns/if-you-could-hie-to-kolob

“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.” – Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/14434-space-is-big-you-just-won-t-believe-how-vastly-hugely

Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics Andrew Knaupp and Sal Velluto, Pillar of Light Mark Elwood, The Glass Looker Noah Van Sciver, Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Eric W. Jepson

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/joseph-smith-and-the-possibility-of-comics-andrew-knaupp-and-sal-velluto-pillar-of-light-mark-elwood-the-glass-looker-noah-van-sciver-joseph-smith-and-the-mormons/

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When exactly are we supposed to be obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law? Nathan Oman’s article on Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought took us down a winding road exploring this question. Ride along!

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Civil Disobedience in Latter-day Saint Thought, by Nathan B. Oman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/civil-disobedience-in-latter-day-saint-thought/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

General conference

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04?lang=eng

Peacemakers Needed, by President Russell M. Nelson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/04/47nelson?lang=eng

The Restoration of Conscientious Objection, by Ron Madsen

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/british-latter-day-saint-conscientious-objectors-in-world-war-i

QI Series M, Episode 2 - Military Matters (transcript)

https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/qi/episodes/13/2/

Google Books Ngram Viewer: conscientious objection and civil disobedience

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=conscientious+objection%2Cconscientious+objector%2C+civil+disobedience&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3

Doctrine and Covenants 98

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/98?lang=eng

The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208

Wiki on “The Freeze” in Ghana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Ghana#%22The_Freeze%22

You Can't Close My Heart: Ghanaian Saints and the Freeze

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/video/2015-12-0001-you-cant-close-my-heart-ghanaian-saints-and-the-freeze?lang=eng

Helmuth Hübener

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_H%C3%BCbener

Hübener, a play by Thomas F. Rogers

https://www.amazon.com/Huebener-Other-Plays-Thomas-Rogers/dp/0963261800

(This includes a review of the play Hübener! Check it out!) Review: The Plays of Thomas F. Rogers, by B. Kent Harrison

https://squaretwo.org/Sq2ArticleHarrisonThomasRogers.html

The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris. Look for the story “Reach”, a science fiction story about an oppressive future where a bishop is released from a calling his conscious mind doesn't realize he held.

https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682

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Our church’s framing of the apostasy and restoration is changing, and Miranda Wilcox wrote about it! How we narrate our religious history affects our general understanding of Christian history, and can help us better appreciate the centuries of progress between the ancient apostles and 1820.

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Narrating Religious Heritage: Apostasy and Restoration, by Miranda Wilcox

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/narrating-religious-heritage/

Joseph Smith and the Possibility of Comics

Reviewed by Theric Jepson

Dialogue 56, no. 1, Spring 2023 (in press)

Pillar of Light, by Andrew G. Knaupp (Author), Sal Velluto (Illustrator)

https://www.cedarfort.com/pages/pillar-of-light

The Glass Looker, by Mark Elwood

https://theglasslooker.com/about/

Joseph Smith and the Mormons, by Noah Van Sciver

https://amzn.to/3JPxRJw

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

Remnant or Replacement? Outlining a Possible Apostasy Narrative, by Nicholas J. Frederick and Joseph M. Spencer

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5076&context=byusq

1st Nephi 11-14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/11

John the Baptist wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_Baptist

How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe (The Hinges of History), by Thomas Cahill

https://amzn.to/3I4v8uF

Martyrs' Crossing, by Melissa Leilani Larson

https://www.melissaleilanilarson.com/martyrs-crossing

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So, was Jesus married? Our holiday edition of our series on open questions follows Christopher James Blythe’s article on the same question. Conspiracy, Assassin’s Creed, Dan Brown, this one’s got it all. Lots of great links in the show notes! See you next year!

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Was Jesus Married?, by Christopher James Blythe

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5137&context=byusq

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, by The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail

Wiki on the book!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail

Identical ancestors point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point

Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, by Christopher James Blythe

https://amzn.to/3WBKo6E

LDS Church Issues Statement Regarding "The Da Vinci Code"

https://www.ksl.com/article/266159/lds-church-issues-statement-regarding-the-da-vinci-code

Evil along the Mississippi: Stories from Nauvoo, by Christopher James Blythe

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-evil-along-the-mississippi-stories-from-nauvoo/

Introducing Introductions to Mormon Thought.  The first two books are linked there and below: Eugene England: A Mormon Liberal, by Kristine Haglund, and Vardis Fisher: A Mormon Novelist

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/wordpress/introducing-introductions-to-mormon-thought/

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p058332

https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=83xxc9pb9780252044090

Dialogue Book Report #19: Strange Mormon Fiction: Dave Butler and William Morris

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-19-strange-mormon-fiction-dave-butler-and-william-morris/

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Agency is critical to the plan of salvation, and the adversary wanted it gone. But how? Philip L. Barlow wrote a banger of an article in Dialogue looking at prevailing theories, and argues the theology yields critical implications for how Mormons interact with government, politics, and church organization.  It’s a great read!!!

Philip L. Barlow has a doctorate of theology (Th.D.) from the Harvard Divinity School and serves on the boards of directors for the Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology and the Dialogue Foundation.  How cool is that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Barlow

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Article for today: “Shards of Combat: How Did Satan Seek to Destroy the Agency of Man?”, by Philip L. Barlow

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/shards-of-combat/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Darlene Young’s “A plan of salvation” isn’t yet published, but will appear in Irreantum’s next issue, “The Plan”.

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/

Moses 4:3

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/4?lang=eng#p3

Bonus!  Jaywalking chat was cut from the episode, but enjoy Adam Ruins Everything - Why Jaywalking Is a Crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFn7MiJz_s

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We welcome William Morris aka Wm, founder of A Motley Vision, onto our show to talk about the BYU studies article, The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison. We talk about the nature of individuality, intelligence, and our own eternal destiny, as revealed by Joseph Smith and studied by prophets and scholars ever since. We even may have come to a new conclusion on the discourse as a whole? Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Dialogue Podcast Network

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/

Article for today: The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/

The full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Motley Vision website

https://motleyvision.org/

The Darkest Abyss: Strange Mormon Stories, by William Morris

https://www.amazon.com/Darkest-Abyss-Strange-Mormon-Stories/dp/1948218682

Email subscription for Wm

https://buttondown.email/motleyvision

God has created “both things to act and things to be acted upon”, 2 Nephi 2:14

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2#p14

Science the Key to Theology: Volume One: Preliminaries, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Science-Key-Theology-One-Preliminaries/dp/0998605204

The Marvelous Clouds: Toward a Philosophy of Elemental Media, by John Durham Peters

https://www.amazon.com/Marvelous-Clouds-Toward-Philosophy-Elemental/dp/022625383X

Dark Watch and other Mormon-American stories, by William Morris

https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Watch-other-Mormon-American-stories-ebook/dp/B00WQHCCFG

Talking to Dante in the Spirit World,by Daniel Cooper

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/

Hemingway in Paradise and Other Mormon Poems, by Scott Hales

https://www.amazon.com/Hemingway-Paradise-Other-Mormon-Poems/dp/B09WQBHBQG

Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/

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It’s a two for one today as we look at two BYU studies articles on whether God ever has or is currently progressing, and on progression in the afterlife. Go deep with us! It’s so much fun! Plus Hadestown makes an appearance!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Thanks to our sponsor! Check out Beyond the Witch's Woods: Book One of the Kingdom of Adair, by Nathan K Caulder

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BF2Q4TJX/

Two articles in this episode:

What Is the Nature of God’s Progress?, by Matthew Bowman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/what-is-the-nature-of-gods-progress/

How Limited Is Postmortal Progression?, by Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/how-limited-is-postmortal-progression/

Both from the full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Brain cells in a lab dish learn to play Pong — and offer a window onto intelligence, by Jon Hamilton

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/10/14/1128875298/brain-cells-neurons-learn-video-game-pong

Heike's Void, by Steven Peck (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550

The Plan, a play by Eric Samuelsen

https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/155-06-31.pdf

Slaughterhouse-Five: A Novel, by Kurt Vonnegut (Author)

https://www.amazon.com/Slaughterhouse-Five-Novel-Modern-Library-Novels/dp/0385333846

Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel

Infinity - Here Come the 123s, by They Might Be Giants

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=pTpEB-Y2Ai0&list=OLAK5uy_ltENVxaQXfqCtKD-WTW_t38dlM81kvy-E

How To Count Past Infinity - Vsauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrU9YDoXE88

Infinity is bigger than you think - Numberphile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elvOZm0d4H0

(Aaron) I couldn’t quite verify it, but it’s rumored that Matthew Bowman’s The Mormon People: The Making of an American Faith states that James Talmadge was one of the first Mormon’s with a Ph.D.

https://www.amazon.com/Mormon-People-Making-American-Faith/dp/081298336X

Talking to Dante in the Spirit World, by Daniel Cooper

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/talking-to-dante-in-the-spirit-world-by-daniel-cooper/

Hadestown! It’s the best. Here’s a spotify link.

https://open.spotify.com/album/1J1yxODbNlqKbwRqJxYJUP

Hades! Also the best. Get it on steam or it’s free right now on xbox if you have game pass!

https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades/

Joseph Smith and the Mormons Hardcover, by Noah Van Sciver

https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Smith-Mormons-Noah-Sciver/dp/141974965X

Next time! The King Follett Discourse: Pinnacle or Peripheral?, by James E. Faulconer and Susannah Morrison

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/the-king-follett-discourse-pinnacle-or-peripheral/

Our related previous episode: 2.2 Canonization and the King Follett Discourse

https://faceinhat.podbean.com/e/22-canonization-and-the-king-follett-discourse/

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Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate. Join us! Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/

“Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/

Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989

Argument - Monty Python

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

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Welcome to season 5! In this season we are studying the recent BYU Studies Quarterly issue 60:3: “Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology.” In each of the articles, an unsettled, open question is presented along with viewpoints from LDS authorities, theologians, and scholars. The goal is not to resolve or debate but to present and discuss, a take we appreciate. Join us! Our first episode is on the article “Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Full issue: Yet to be revealed, open questions in Latter-Day Saint theology. Edited by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/journal/60-3/

Introduction to a BYU Studies Quarterly Special Issue on Open Questions in Latter-day Saint Theology, by Eric A. Eliason and Terryl L. Givens

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/introduction-3/

“Oh Say, What Is Truth?”: Approaches to Doctrine, by Michael A. Goodman

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/oh-say-what-is-truth/

Optimistic Nihilism - The philosophy of Kurzgesagt, by Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

People of Paradox: A History of Mormon Culture, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/People-Paradox-History-Mormon-Culture/dp/0199915989

Argument - Monty Python

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ

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Mormons love the Old Testament and everything about the Jewish faith and culture. Join us as we go into the history of Judaic influences on the LDS faith, and the sometimes complex relationship between our faiths.

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Colonialism - The Board Game Struggle, by No Pun Included

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQuFSxs9VXA

Wiki: Judaism and Mormonism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism

What Is Cultural Appropriation?, by The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica

https://www.britannica.com/story/what-is-cultural-appropriation

The Complicated Relationship between Mormons and Jews, by Matthew Bowman (free registration and free trial required)

https://mosaicmagazine.com/response/history-ideas/2020/07/the-complicated-relationship-between-mormons-and-jews/

Reverence vs Chutzpah, by thmazing

https://motleyvision.org/2013/05/01/reverence-vs-chutzpah/

Selections from Jews and Words by Oz and Oz-Salzberger, by thmazing

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/selections-from-jews-and-words-by-oz.html

Jews and Words, by Amos Oz and Fania Oz-Salzberger

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300156472/

Cats, Feces, Zombies, Jews, Wars, Princesses, Prophets, Exes, Screenplays, blog post by thmazing

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2013/03/cats-feces-zombies-jews-wars-princesses.html#lineage

What Is It About Mormonism?, by Noah Feldman (subscription required)

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/magazine/06mormonism-t.html

(Aaron) I couldn’t find the reference for Spencer W. Kimball sharing a joke with the Lord, but I did find the awesome list of jokes and stories about Spencer W. Kimball. Highly recommended!

Spencer W. Kimball: A Man of Good Humor, by Edward L. Kimball

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2389

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A fun primary lesson led to a deeper discussion of historicity and truth in the book of Joshua.

What Do We Mean When We Say that the Scriptures Are True? By Michael Austin

https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/05/23/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-that-the-scriptures-are-true/

Wiki: the conquest of Caanan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Joshua#Entry_into_the_land_and_conquest_.28chapters_2.E2.80.9312.29

Come follow me: Joshua

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22

On Writing Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/06/on-writing-heikes-void-by-steven-l-peck/

Heike’s Void, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Heikes-Void-Steven-Peck/dp/1948218550

Wiki: Battle of Jericho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jericho

Song of solomon footnote

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/song/1?lang=eng#note

Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk

Ada Palmer and the Weird Hand of Progress, by Gregory Barber

https://www.wired.com/story/ada-palmer-sci-fi-future-weird-hand-progress/

Thoughts to Keep in Mind: The Historical Books in the Old Testament

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/come-follow-me-for-individuals-and-families-old-testament-2022/22-thoughts

Mormon Literature at the 57th Annual MHA Conference, by Liz Busby

https://www.associationmormonletters.org/2022/05/mormon-literature-at-the-57th-annual-mha-conference/

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Reading scientific papers requires a critical mindset, but often ‘critical’ has a negative connotation. How can we apply critical reading to scriptures and conference addresses? This is especially relevant in the context of recent conference addresses and discourse in the Mormon community on Heavenly Mother (see especially Dialogue’s spring issue, “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context”).

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Infographic: How to read a scientific paper, by Natalia Rodriguez

https://www.elsevier.com/connect/infographic-how-to-read-a-scientific-paper

Answering Gospel Questions

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/answering-gospel-questions?lang=eng

How to Tell a True War Story, by Tim O’Brian

https://www.ndsu.edu/pubweb/~cinichol/CreativeWriting/323/OBrienWarStory.pdf

The things they carried, by Tim O’Brian

https://www.amazon.com/Things-They-Carried-Tim-OBrien/dp/0618706410

Your Divine Nature and Eternal Destiny, By Elder Dale G. Renlund (see footnote 10)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2022/04/36renlund

Dialogue, Spring 2022. “Heavenly Mother in Critical Context.”

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/issues/spring-2022/

In Defense of Heavenly Mother: Her Critical Importance for Mormon Culture and Theology, by Margaret Toscano

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/in-defense-of-heavenly-mother-her-critical-importance-for-mormon-culture-and-theology/

Abbott & Costello 7 x 13 = 28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzxVyO6cpos

Queer Mormon Theology: An Introduction, by Blaire Ostler

https://www.amazon.com/Queer-Mormon-Theology-Blaire-Ostler/dp/1948218410

Mother's Milk, by Rachel Hunt Steenblik

https://www.amazon.com/Mothers-Milk-Rachel-Hunt-Steenblik/dp/0998605220

Finding Mother God: Poems to Heal the World Hardcover, by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Mother-God-Poems-World/dp/1423656687

Dove Song: Heavenly Mother in Mormon Poetry. Edited by Tyler Chadwick, Dayna Patterson, and Martin Pulido

http://www.peculiarpages.com/books/dove-song/

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Dr. Eugene England and Elder Bruce R. McConkie really didn’t agree on many points regarding the nature of God and the destiny of souls. For today’s show, we highly recommend Rebecca England’s essay linked in the show notes! We cover it briefly but it’s worth your time!

D&C 1:30

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/1?lang=eng&id=30#p30

The vision: D&C 76

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76

“The Vision”, by Matthew McBride (includes quote from Brigham Young and his brother Joseph)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/revelations-in-context/the-vision?lang=eng#p12

D&C 19:11-19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19?lang=eng&id=11-19#p11

So Ask No More…, by Mario R. Montani. Translated by Gabriel González.

(Spanish) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/y-no-preguntes-mas/

(English) https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/so-ask-no-more/

A Professor and Apostle Correspond: Eugene England and Bruce R. McConkie on the Nature of God, by Rebecca England

http://www.eugeneengland.org/a-professor-and-apostle-correspond-eugene-england-and-bruce-r-mcconkie-on-the-nature-of-god

The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/

Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X

Here’s a direct link to the quote that blew Aaron away, from Articles of Faith by, James Talmage, pg 421

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42238/42238-h/42238-h.htm#Page_421

Printed vs. audio version of The Seven Deadly Heresies

https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/answers/Primary_sources/Bruce_R._McConkie/Seven_deadly_heresies

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Happy new year!  We revisit older shows, adding updates on finance (billions of dollars worth), the Provo temple, the Devil in church meetings and certain prophecies about the color of horses. 

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

More about the deseret alphabet and Unicode by Kenneth R. Beesley:

https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2002/02169-deseret.pdf

https://uofupress.lib.utah.edu/an-1860-english-hopi-vocabulary-written-in-the-deseret-alphabet/

https://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb25-0/beesley.pdf

Original whistleblower article, by Jon Swaine, Douglas MacMillan and Michelle Boorstein:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html

Some Thoughts About Ensign Peak Advisers and the Church, by Sam Brunson

https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/12/17/some-thoughts-about-ensign-peak-advisers-and-the-church/

Let’s Talk About Money, by Sam Brunson

https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/08/21/lets-talk-about-money/#more-115349

Response to church’s response, by Sam Brunson

https://twitter.com/smbrnsn/status/1208433565945487360

The Good Shepherds musical:

https://thegoodshepherds.net/about-the-show

Provo temple pictures:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/photo-gallery/provo-utah-temple?lang=eng

Irreantum issue: Joe Smith and the Devil

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/18_1_top/

Sympathy for the “Devil”, by Roxy Rawson:

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/sympathy-for-the-devil/

Film Theory: Star Wars, How The Mandalorian PROVES the Empire was Right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjWokxCfCvs

Eric’s comment in twitter thread on the OT:

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1476590787408252934

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Starting off with the history of the People’s Park in Berkley, we segway into discussing Emily Kaplan’s article in the Washington Post, “The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints.” It’s a great article and has generated lots of discussion, especially around LBGTQ issues. Join us!

Link to our Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

People's Park (Berkeley)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Park_(Berkeley)

The Rise of the Liberal Latter-day Saints and the battle for the future of Mormonism, by Emily Kaplan

https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2021/09/27/rise-liberal-latter-day-saints/

First Person: Berkeley's Matt Marostica on How to Make Progressive Change within a Conservative Church

https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101885956/first-person-berkeleys-matt-marostica-on-how-to-make-progressive-change-within-a-conservative-church

Fireside podcast Ep. 6—No Compartments (David Dark)

https://www.firesidepod.org/episodes/dark

Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious, by David Dark

https://www.amazon.com/Lifes-Short-Pretend-Youre-Religious/dp/0830844465

Human History Gets a Rewrite, by William Deresiewicz

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/graeber-wengrow-dawn-of-everything-history-humanity/620177/

Garden of Enid: Enid vs. The Big Tent, by Scott Hales

https://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/post/94527291396/enid-vs-the-big-tent-8122014/amp

Benjamin Park’s response to Emily Kaplan’s essay

https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1442616042627469312

Prop 8 - The Musical

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o

Stretching the Heavens: The Life of Eugene England and the Crisis of Modern Mormonism, by Terryl L. Givens

https://www.amazon.com/Stretching-Heavens-Eugene-England-Mormonism/dp/146966433X

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Brigham Young loved the Deseret alphabet, and so do we. It’s so cool looking and old and kinda weird. It’s perfect Mormon history and it’s forever enshrined in Unicode. Let’s take a look!

Link to new Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

Start here!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet

English Phonotypic Alphabet, developed by Sir Isaac Pitman and Alexander John Ellis

​​https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Phonotypic_Alphabet

George D. Watt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_D._Watt

A Simplified Alphabet, by Mark Twain

https://englishliterature.net/mark-twain/a-simplified-alphabet

Monsters and Mormons

https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245

Quite Interesting, J series, ep 13, Jobs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B084DL9FQC/ref=atv_dp_season_select_s10

Making Peace: Personal Essays, by Eugene England, Chapter 4, On Bringing Peace To BYU, With The Help Of Brigham Young

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/on-bringing-peace-to-byu-with-the-help-of-brigham-young/

Dialogue Book Report #13: Kristine Haglund on Eugene England

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-book-report-13-kristine-haglund-on-eugene-england/

The Deseret Alphabet in Unicode, by Kenneth R. Beesley

http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~jericks/Historical%20or%20Technical/History%20Looking%20Backwards/Ken%20Beesley/Deseret%20in%20Unicode.pdf

The Stainless Steel Rat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat

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Did you know they had smallpox vaccines in the 1700s?  Join us as we kick off season 4 of Face in Hat with some history and then an in-depth look at one of the most important modern miracles, the mRNA vaccine against Covid 19.

Link to new Face in Hat discord server!

https://discord.gg/MnSMvKHvwh

The Plague Year: The mistakes and the struggles behind America’s coronavirus tragedy, by Lawrence Wright

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/04/the-plague-year

Twitter thread by by Michael Harriot on Cotton Mather, Onesimus, and smallpox vaccinations in the 1700s  

https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/status/1432060194276659203

Inoculation Origins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation#Origins

The History of Pediatric Infectious Diseases, by Stanford T Shulman

https://www.nature.com/articles/pr200425/

Deseret Evening News | 1900-11-17 | To the Latter-Day Saints

https://newspapers.lib.utah.edu/details?id=1906891&q=smallpox&parent_i=1906796

LDS Humanitarian Programs

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/humanitarian-service/church

LDS Church kicks in $20M toward global COVID vaccination push, by Peggy Fletcher Stack

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/02/26/lds-church-kicks-m-toward

2 Billion COVID-19 Vaccinations Roll out to At-Risk Populations Church donation helps support UNICEF’s role in global effort

https://www.latterdaysaintcharities.org/blogs/2-billion-covid-19-vaccinations-roll-out-at-risk-populations

The sprint to solve coronavirus protein structures — and disarm them with drugs, by Megan Scudellari

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01444-z

mRNA Vaccine (not mentioned on the show, but excellent :)

https://xkcd.com/2425/

Why It Actually Took 50 Years to Make COVID mRNA Vaccines, SciShow, Hosted by: Hank Green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPeeCyJReZw

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: How could anything developed this quickly be safe? By Moon Nahm, M.D.

https://www.uab.edu/news/youcanuse/item/12059-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-how-could-anything-developed-this-quickly-be-safe

The tangled history of mRNA vaccines, by Elie Dolgin

https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-021-02483-w

How the vaccine works (Tik Tok)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OmQp6GNJSQ

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We missed posting this one during Pride month, but it’s relevant! Join us for a conversation with local beloved Berkeleyite Paul. We hear how his relative worked on the Oakland Temple in the 50s, and about Paul’s life being gay in San Francisco in the 80s. He loves the temple, and hearing his testimony was delightful. Thanks Paul!

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Photos!

Sandwiches! From Paul: “It was nice to happily share sandwiches in 1962 with a person born in 1874.”

https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/8pyxrz/arthur_sandwiches.jpg

Calligraphy:

https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/7rfc9k/arthur_calligraphy.png

Photos from the Oakland Temple construction:

https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/da6h64/oaklandtempleconstruction1.png

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We had too many great stories to fit into our Church building program episode so here’s some more from Aaron’s uncles!

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Aaron’s Grandpa was a building missionary who built churches all over the pacific northwest. We welcome Aaron’s uncles onto the show (yay!) who helped build these churches as the family moved from location to location. We were very happy to hear what it was like on the ground during one of the most rapid expansions in the church’s history. Thanks for joining us!

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Essential Craftsman

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzr30osBdTmuFUS8IfXtXmg

Mission letter

https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/i8qqi3/mckay_letter_r.png

Dialogue Fireside #4 with Benjamin Park, “Mormonism’s Many Modernisms: What the Faith’s Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.”

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/

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Temple renovations in Manti were scheduled to remove murals by LDS painter Minerva Teichert, but that decision was reversed. Join us as we look into her story and work, art in the church in general, and how remembrance and ritual soaks in our very beings.

Minerva Teichert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minerva_Teichert

The Deseret Alphabet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet

John Hafen's "O My Father" illustrations: https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/36.1PheyseyTestimony-b101cd84-1291-4e99-8614-0844a61b49f9.pdf

Harvesting the Light: The 1890 Paris Art Mission, by Giles H. Florence, Jr.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/10/harvesting-the-light-the-1890-paris-art-mission

Manti Utah Temple

https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/manti-utah-temple/

Lots of prints available for the two paintings we mentioned. Since we didn’t want to endorse a particular website, here are some convenient google searches to see them:

https://www.google.com/search?q=queen+esther+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch

https://www.google.com/search?q=christ+in+the+red+robe+minerva+teichert&tbm=isch

Minerva Teichert’S Manti Temple Murals, by Doris R Dant

https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/38.DantMinerva.pdf

Point and Counterpoint:

Point: It’s just art, by Jonathan Green 

https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/its-just-art/

Counterpoint: A Feeling of Loss–On Murals and Temples, by Chad Nielsen

https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2021/03/counterpoint-a-feeling-of-loss/

Mormon News report

https://mormonnewsreport.com/

Ritual, Remembrance, and Minerva Teichert’s Art, by Russel Arben Fox

https://bycommonconsent.com/2021/04/05/ritual-remembrance-and-minerva-teicherts-art/

At Last She Said It podcast, Episode 049: Mirror, Mirror, On the Wall

https://atlastshesaidit.org/episode-049-mirror-mirror-on-the-wall/

Icons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icon

What the LDS Church wants to know from its young adult members, by Jana Riess

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/03/23/jana-riess-what-lds/

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This was a fun one and we went all over the place. From a really great 1700s poem on truth, to BYU spy rings, to the nature of character in education, join us as we look at what church education looked like in the 60s and speculate on how it might have been different today.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

"Act Well Thy Part", David O. McKay's Lifelong Motto

https://education.byu.edu/magazine/winter2016/act_well_thy_part

"Home Literature", Orson F. Whitney

http://mldb.byu.edu/homelit.htm

Isaac Watts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Watts

High res shot of the Isaac Watts poem, from “The improvement of the mind”

https://archive.org/details/suppimproveofmin00wattuoft/page/72/mode/2up

Ernest L. Wilkinson, spy ring on wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_L._Wilkinson#The_1966_BYU_spy_ring_controversy

Ernest L. Wilkinson and the 1966 BYU Spy Ring: A Response to D. Michael Quinn, by Jeff D. Blake

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V28N01_175.pdf

Dialogue book report podcast

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/dialogue-book-report/

Why Utah Mormons Should Become Democrats: Reflections On Partisan Politics

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/why-utah-mormons-should-become-democrats-reflections-on-partisan-politics/

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How did the church become international? How much more do we have to go? Let’s look at David O. McKay’s contribution and see how we can apply it to our present church.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Liken the scriptures unto yourselves:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/19.23-24#23

Find more about the Beyond the Block and the Foyer podcasts on Dialogue!

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcastnetwork/

Hajj

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajj

Regarding our discussion of international vs. global. This episode was recorded before General Conference, and the Spring 2021 Sunday Morning session was awesome. Nearly every talk was from an international member and there was lots of international music. Seemed like a great step.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2021/04/sunday-morning-session

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For Black History Month, we study Chapter 4 of David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism: “Blacks, Civil Rights, and the Priesthood.” The ban on black people holding the Priesthood was lifted in 1978. The people, politics, and circumstances leading up to it, particularly in McKay’s time in the 50s and 60s, makes for a difficult, but fascinating conversation. Struggle along with us as we grapple with the past to try and shape a better future.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Leiland Tanner - Coat of Colors (Kolobyte Peculiar Mix), from Peculiar People by Kolobyte

https://kolobyte.bandcamp.com/track/leiland-tanner-coat-of-colors-kolobyte-peculiar-mix

Gospel topic: Race and the Priesthood

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/race-and-the-priesthood

Standing on the Promises, Book One: One More River to Cross, by Margaret Blair Young

https://amzn.to/3km0EGQ

Martin Luther King Jr: Letter from a Birmingham jail

https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html

Wiki: J Reuben Clark

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark#Racism_and_anti-Semitism

The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America, by Richard Rothstein

https://amzn.to/2Nwaf22

Redlining

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

Why I Hate White Jesus, by James Goldberg

http://mormonmidrashim.blogspot.com/2020/05/why-i-hate-white-jesus.html

More on Anthony Obinna

https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/2005-08-27/coming-full-circle-in-west-africa-90096

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVxNYQd4-v4

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Following our theme of change in the church, we look at how our approach to media has changed over the last half century, from the early days of broadcasting to recent attitude shifts regarding social media and embracing new forms of communication

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

An Honest Liar (2014)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2246565/

“‘Julie Through the Glass’: The Rise and Fall of the Mormon TV Commercial”, By Rollo Romig

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/julie-through-the-glass-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-mormon-tv-commerical

“Be an Example of the Believers”, Mary N. Cook (2010)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2010/10/be-an-example-of-the-believers

LDS General Conference Corpus

https://www.lds-general-conference.org/

President Hinkley on 60 minutes

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/an-interview-with-gordon-hinckley/

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXVk37bltHxD1rDPwtNM8Q

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What do we do when we disagree with family, neighbors, and friends over things so important to us that it seems impossible to reconcile? David O’McKay’s fundamental belief in free agency and love of those around him meant he respected other’s beliefs and lived a life of tolerance, while still taking action when he thought it was needed. In this episode we look at specific examples of tolerance from his life and try to apply these lessons to our own lives as we navigate the modern world of opinion and debate.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Transcript of President Joe Biden’s inauguration speech

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/20/joe-biden-inauguration-speech-transcript-full-text-460813

Juanita Brooks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juanita_Brooks

Dialogue Fireside, January 17: Benjamin Park on “Mormonism’s Many Modernisms: What the Faith’s Alternative Trajectories in the Early Twentieth Century Tell Us About the Twenty-First.”

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/podcasts/dialogue-fireside-4-w-benjamin-park/

More on Amy B Lyman and Franklin S Harris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_B._Lyman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_S._Harris

Matters of Conscience, by Sterling M. McMurrin and L. Jackson Newell

http://signaturebookslibrary.org/sterling-m-mcmurrin/

No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith, by Fawn M. Brodie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man_Knows_My_History

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Today we discussed McKay Coppin’s article “The Most American Religion”, published in The Atlantic. It’s a great read or listen (find the audio link in the article!). We were particularly interested in his discussion of how our desire for acceptance affects how we interact with others as people of faith, and we applied that to our own experiences being LDS on the internet.

The Most American Religion, by McKay Coppins:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/01/the-most-american-religion/617263/

Benjamin Park’s thread on the difference between a global and international church:

https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1340140374279548928

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David O’McKay helped strengthen interfaith relationships during his tenure as President of the Church, yet Mormonism and the Catholic Church had a rocky relationship in the late 50s. Thanks to several key events and the loving patience and ministry of Catholic Bishop Duane Hunt, the rift was healed and David O’McKay’s own attitude was changed. Can this be a model for healing divides in modern communities? Maybe! Let’s talk about it!

The Great Brain book series:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Brain

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Bible dictionary on Prayer. If you’ve never read this it’s worth your time :)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bd/prayer

The Purifying Power of Gethsemane, by Bruce R. McConkie. Again, one of the most powerful talks on the Atonement ever written.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1985/04/the-purifying-power-of-gethsemane

Mormon Doctrine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Doctrine_(book)

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‘Tis the season for a show about politics! Join us as we look at political polarization in the 50s and 60s and trace its effects all the way forward to 2020.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and WM Robert Wright

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

The Law of Consecration

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_consecration

The United Order

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Order#cite_note-Clark04-1942-26

Diogenes was searching for an honest man (and may have been earth’s first green lantern):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes

https://twitter.com/jdp_writes/status/1321901575535812609

Fearreantum

https://irreantum.associationmormonletters.org/17-1-top/

This Scary Statistic Predicts Growing US Political Violence — Whatever Happens On Election Day, by Peter Aldhous

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/political-violence-inequality-us-election

Whoops, the quote attributed to Jimmy Carter about if you don’t want your tax dollars to help the poor then you don’t want a country based on Christian values, was actually said by comedian John Fugelsang!

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jimmy-carter-helping-poor/

Arthur Watkins’s memoir is called “Enough rope: The inside story of the censure of Senator Joe McCarthy by his colleagues, the controversial hearings that signaled the end of a turbulent and a fearsome era in American public life”

Folding Ideas: In Search Of A Flat Earth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

QAnon Is a New American Religion, by Caroline Mimbs Nyce

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2020/05/qanon-q-pro-trump-conspiracy/611722/

Newt Gingrich Says You're Welcome, by McKay Coppins

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832

And just for fun, a J. Golden Kimball quote on politics:

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1320982721225584640

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Ever heard of the baseball baptisms?  Missionary Work during David O’Mckay’s presidency has some swings!  Come for the crazy stories and stay for the embarrassing ones.

We continue reading “David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism,” this time chapter 10, “Missionary Work”.

Whence the Early Baptismal Challenges, by Angela C.

https://bycommonconsent.com/2019/08/06/whence-the-early-baptismal-challenges/

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During President McKay’s tenure, the church tripled its membership. The reorganization of the church to handle this unprecedented growth was known as ‘correlation’. How did this process affect the church, its quorums and auxiliaries? What were some of the side effects? We again use David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism as a reference for today, focusing on chapter 7, “Correlation and Church Administration”.

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Useful wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_Correlation_Program

Article on women healing: https://digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1064&context=mormonhistory

“There Is Always a Struggle”: An Interview with Chieko N. Okazaki, by Greg Prince. Dialog 45, no. 1 (Spring 2012).

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V45N01_CO.pdf

“What have the Joseph Smith Papers taught me?”, by Steve Evans

https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/08/24/what-have-the-joseph-smith-papers-taught-me/

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Welcome to season 3! We introduce our themes for the year, and after that take a deep dive on baptism.

This year we’ll be focusing on change in the church, and how our expectations of true doctrine clash with the realities of a people-led church.

Notes:

“I’m coming to the conclusion that 1933 was the hinge upon which modern Mormonism pivoted: It was the year BH Roberts died and J Reuben Clark joined the First Presidency, thus marking the sunset of one potential Mormon trajectory and the dawn of another.” -Benjamin Park

https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1299770339971526656

Wikipedia for B. H. Roberts and J. Reuben Clark:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._H._Roberts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Reuben_Clark

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince

https://www.amazon.com/David-McKay-Rise-Modern-Mormonism/dp/0874808227

Comic on B.H. Roberts, from The Garden of Enid: Adventures of a Weird Mormon Girl, Part One, by Scott Givens (click ‘look inside’ and search for doubts)

https://amzn.to/31XkLU8

4th article of faith

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1.4#4

Gospel topics: Baptism

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/baptism

D&C 76

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76

Eric’s lecture on the first vision:

https://youtu.be/aFSicnZ3B3k

Gospel topic on the vision, or D&C 76. See especially the vido linked therein:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/the-vision-dc-76

D&C 19:15-19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19.15-19#15

Sin Does Not Exist: And Believing That It Does Is Ruining Us, by S. Richard Bellrock

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/sin-does-not-exist/

A Monopoly on Exaltation, by user Ziff

https://zelophehadsdaughters.com/2020/08/24/a-monopoly-on-exaltation/

The Mediator, by Boyd K. Packer. ← Powerful atonement talk

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/04/the-mediator

Twitter thread on the Mediator, see several links here:

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1301747609854332928

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The second season of Face in Hat concluded with the previous episode regarding Christopher Columbus and Black Lives Matter.  We'll be starting our third season this fall with more episodes, continuing as part of the Dialogue podcasting network.

In the meantime, enjoy Eric’s lecture, "Triangulating God: Eighty-seven Angles on the First Vision."  In it, Eric approaches the question of "how to explain an experience no one shares?  Joseph Smith struggled throughout his life to explain the First Vision and now Latter-day Saint artists take up this impossible mantle.”  Part of an ongoing series on the First Vision through the Oakland California Stake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFSicnZ3B3k

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“Bioshock Infinite can make you feel uncomfortable.” - Kevin VanOrd. So will 2020. We talk about civic religion in the video game Bioshock Infinite and how it relates to the apotheosis of Christopher Columbus and racism in the church. We end with a discussion of the current nationwide protests and affirm that #BlackLivesMatter.

We thank @BenjaminEPark for two twitter threads that inspired this episode and we cite him extensively. See https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768 and https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392.

Bioshock infinite trailer: https://youtu.be/EsJ55BzIvkE

Bioshock infinite review by Kevin VanOrd review from GameSpot: https://youtu.be/jSA9AsdBh00

The Apotheosis of Washington vs. Bioshock Infinite’s Garden of New Eden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apotheosis_of_Washington

https://bioshock.fandom.com/wiki/Garden_of_New_Eden (see the Entryway to Eden)

Benjamin Park’s thread

https://twitter.com/benjaminepark/status/1164696231634976768

Land of Promise in The Book of Mormon, by Tyler Livingston (note, on the show I said Orson Hyde added the footnote to 1 Ne 13:12, but it was Orson Pratt)

https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2010/09/16/land-of-promise-in-the-book-of-mormon

Christopher Coloumbus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus

Visit of eminent spirits to Wilford Woodruff (include Ezra Taft Benson quote)

https://josephsmithfoundation.org/wiki/eminent-spirits-appear-to-wilford-woodruff

References for Book of Mormon commentary by George Reynolds

https://gospeldoctrine.com/book-mormon/1-nephi/1-nephi-13

George Reynolds: Loyal Friend of the Book of Mormon, by Bruce A. Van Orden

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1986/08/george-reynolds-loyal-friend-of-the-book-of-mormon

Columbian Exchange

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange

Americapox: The Missing Plague, by CGP Grey

https://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/americapox

Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond Ph.D.

https://amzn.to/36YaHLB

Protests thread by Benjamin Park

https://twitter.com/BenjaminEPark/status/1267489043840827392

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory A Prince and Wm. Robert Wright

https://amzn.to/36S59Ch

Mayflower: Voyage, Community, War Paperback, by Nathaniel Philbrick

https://amzn.to/3dnDsE0

The Book of Mormon for the Least of These, Volume 1, by Fatimah Salleh and Margaret Olsen Hemming

https://amzn.to/2Mmetow

The Lost 116 Pages: Reconstructing the Book of Mormon's Missing Stories, by Don Bradley

https://amzn.to/36QFBpa

Racism in the Church:

https://twitter.com/TaranTrinnaman/status/1267837998751776771

Melodie’s request:

https://twitter.com/Kid_melodie/status/1267209095028891654

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We love the Fall. Adam, Eve, fruit, the whole thing.  Today we talk about the LDS perspective on the Fall, including what LDS scriptures bring to understanding this monumental event. Nifty poetry too!

A Harmony of the Creation Accounts, from the Pearl of Great Price Student Manual

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-pearl-of-great-price-student-manual-2018/a-harmony-of-the-creation-accounts?lang=eng

The Pearl of Greatest Price: Mormonism's Most Controversial Scripture, by Terryl Givens

https://amzn.com/dp/B07WNK63SY

Aaron’s concordance between Genesis 3 and Moses 4

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PsZXaUJ_hAbsGzhS0vC5s-UP4A94pf0V8oGci4ZSXQM/edit?usp=sharing

Adam and Eve (LDS movement, wiki)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve_(Latter_Day_Saint_movement)

Gospel topic: Fall of Adam and Eve

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/fall-of-adam-and-eve

The Fulness of the Gospel: The Fall of Adam and Eve, Ensign June 2006

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/06/the-fulness-of-the-gospel-the-fall-of-adam-and-eve

Gospel Classics: Adam’s Role in Bringing Us Mortality, by President Joseph Fielding Smith

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2006/01/adams-role-in-bringing-us-mortality

Perelandra, once again cited!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra

The Redemption of Eve, by Jolene Edmunds Rockwood

http://www.mormonmonastery.org/PDF/TheRedemptionofEve.pdf

Moses 5:11

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/5.11#11

“UTopia” by Laura Nielson Baxter, collected in “Fire in the Pasture: 21st Century Mormon Poets”

https://amzn.to/2xJs6dY 

What Was Left of the Stars, by Claire Åkebrand

http://amzn.to/2wL1x5r

Eric’s comments on Claire Åkebrand’s poem, “‘First Actors”, from the above collection

https://motleyvision.org/2017/09/05/claire-akebrands-what-was-left-of-the-stars/#more-12058

Witchy Eye, by D. J. Butler

https://amzn.to/3cGwLMy

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We take a break from our LDS miscellany to discuss the current pandemic using the recent conference as a backdrop. Please note the upcoming world-wide fast on Good Friday.

“We will conquer the coronavirus, apostle Holland says”

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/04/05/latest-sundays-lds/

April 2020 World Report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSqT1bPmYb8

Mosiah 4:16-19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/mosiah/4.16-19#16

Crowd-fight COVID-19: an initiative from the scientific community to put all available resources at the service of the fight against COVID-19:

https://crowdfightcovid19.org/

President Nelson Invites World to Participate in Fast on Good Friday

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/president-nelson-invites-world-to-participate-in-fast-on-good-friday

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Spoilers ahead!  We welcome David, a fellow Berkeley Wardian, as guest to the show today to talk about the final episode of the Good Place and its parallels with LDS views on redemption and exaltation

The Good Place

https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place

Sacred time vs. profine time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_return_(Eliade)

The Seven Deadly Heresies, by Bruce R. McConkie

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/bruce-r-mcconkie/seven-deadly-heresies/

Fair mormon question

https://www.fairmormon.org/answers/Question:_Do_Mormons_believe_that_there_is_there_progression_between_the_three_degrees_of_glory%3F

Eternal Misfit, by Roger Terry

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V43_N03_188.pdf

Gospel Principles, Exaltation (includes President Joseph Fielding Smith quote)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-47-exaltation

Apotheosis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apotheosis

Michael Schur: “As long as you’re trying, you’re on the right path.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-good-places-moral-message-changed-as-much-as-the-ch-1837096810

Stormlight archive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stormlight_Archive

No exit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit

Nothing in Heaven Functions as It Ought, by X.J. Kennedy

https://www.poemtree.com/poems/NothingInHeavenFunctions.htm

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He was lookin’ for a podcast to steal. He was in a bind, ‘cause he was way behind, but we wouldn’t accept him as a sponsor for this episode, so neener neener.

Here’s some references!

Gospel topics article

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/satan

Wiki!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan

Recency bias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

LDS General Conference Corpus

https://www.lds-general-conference.org/

Huckabee Is Not Alone in Ignorance on Mormonism, by Laurie Goodstein

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/us/politics/14mormon.html

Twitter thread from Eric

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1217670280069279744

Michael Ballam 4 lyfe!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ballam

BD: devil

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bd/devil

The Screwtape Letters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screwtape_Letters

There must needs be opposition in all things

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2.p11#p11

Perelandra

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra

The Tragedy of King Leere, Goatherd of the la Sals, by Steven L. Peck

https://www.amazon.com/Tragedy-King-Leere-Goatherd-Sals/dp/1948218011

1 Corinthians 10:13

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/1-cor/10.p13?lang=eng#p13

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Doubt and skepticism is a recurring theme on Face in Hat. Today we look at President Uchtdorf’s 2013 talk, “Come, Join with Us”, which includes the now famous phrase “doubt your doubts.”  What does this mean and how do different people in the church interpret it?

“Come, Join with Us”, by President Dieter F. Uchtdorf, Oct 2013 General Conference session

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2013/10/come-join-with-us

Heisenberg uncertainty principle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church, by Jana Reese

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0190885203

The Crucible of Doubt: Reflections On the Quest for Faith, by Tera and Fiona Gibbons

https://amzn.to/35Tt1DD

Jane & Emma

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8581198/

https://amzn.to/30pN2jM

My Testimony is My Life, by The Star-Eater

https://www.arch-hive.net/post/my-testimony-is-my-life

2nd Isaiah and the Book of Mormon

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1984/10/i-have-a-question/how-do-we-explain-material-from-isaiah-in-the-book-of-mormon?lang=eng

A very little bit on doubt, by Eric Jepson

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2007/09/very-little-bit-on-doubt-svithe.html

When Doubts and Questions Arise, by Adam Kotter

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/2015/03/when-doubts-and-questions-arise

(cited scriptures)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/morm/9.27

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/6.36

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Mormons have interesting proscriptions. Some are more open to interpretation than others, and how they are interpreted has changed over our history. We look at the Word of Wisdom, rated R movies, and the Sabbath day as three examples.

D&C 89: The Word of Wisdom

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89

Word of Wisdom gospel topic

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/word-of-wisdom

Thomas G. Alexander, "The Word of Wisdom: From Principle to Requirement", Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 14:3 (1981) pp. 78–88.

http://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V14N03_80.pdf

Handbook 2 on Word of Wisdom (21.3.11)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies-and-guidelines/selected-church-policies

“Vaping, Coffee, Tea, and Marijuana,” New Era article, Aug 2019

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/new-era/2019/08/vaping-coffee-tea-and-marijuana

Eric’s Twitter conversation about green tea

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1161372166127902720

Wow there is a lot of research about the comma in vs. 13 of the Word of Wisdom.  This article especially is great: A. Jane Birch (2014). “Questioning the Comma in Verse 13 of the Word of Wisdom.”  Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture 10: 133-149

https://journal.interpreterfoundation.org/questioning-the-comma-in-verse-13-of-the-word-of-wisdom/

Hello Internet episode including discussion of The Game Changers, a documentary “about plant-based eating, protein, and strength”

http://www.hellointernet.fm/podcast/130

https://www.netflix.com/title/81157840

Kurzgesagt: Why Meat is the Best Worst Thing in the World

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxvQPzrg2Wg

Word of Wisdom Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Wisdom

To the “Youth of the Noble Birthright” - President Ezra Taft Benson, Spring 1986 General Conference, Priesthood session

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1986/04/to-the-youth-of-the-noble-birthright

For the Strength of Youth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_the_Strength_of_Youth

https://www.docdroid.net/eVNYkuG/1990-for-the-strength-of-youth-lds-standards-of-conduct.pdf#page=12

Gospel topic on the sabbath day

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/sabbath-day

Decisions for Which I've Been Grateful by Clayton M. Christensen (specifically the fourth decision about basketball on Sunday)

http://www2.byui.edu/Presentations/Transcripts/Devotionals/2004_06_08_Christensen.htm

Kim Ho Jik: Korean Pioneer, by Denny Roy (starting with “Brother Kim also made a memorably bold statement of dedication to his faith..”)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/07/kim-ho-jik-korean-pioneer

Church Updates Temple Recommend Interview Questions

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/october-2019-general-conference-temple-recommend

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Albert Einstein, C. S. Lewis, Carl Sagan, Paul.  Talking about evolution, Adam and Eve, death, and the March of Progress takes us on quite the journey!

Wiki on Mormon views on evolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_views_on_evolution

Meanwhile, in Ohio… https://local12.com/news/local/ohio-house-passes-bill-allowing-student-answers-to-be-scientifically-wrong-due-to-religion

Paul’s teaching about faith

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/nt/heb/11.1-40

See also, Alma and the seed

https://churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/alma/32

Intro to evolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

Peppered moth evolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppered_moth_evolution

Antibodies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody

Speciation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation

Carl Sagan

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/954415-the-secrets-of-evolution-are-death-and-time-the-deaths-of

Carl Sagan - COSMOS - Evolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpsVSVRsZk

Scriptures on death, Adam and Eve, and the fall

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/moses/6.48

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/2.22

Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers, Episode 3, The First Storytellers

https://amzn.to/2D9Myn4

Perelandra, by C. S. Lewis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perelandra

QI, Season 15, episode 10, on the March of Progress (timestamp 26:13)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B078KJ8DKJ

Beyond the Block podcast, What God Hath Cleansed

https://beyondtheblockpodcast.com/episodes/what-god-hath-cleansed-s1!78d3b

Einstein’s quote, “God does not play dice with the universe”

https://www.businessinsider.com/god-does-not-play-dice-quote-meaning-2015-11

Scopes Monkey Trial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial

Drunk history: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tyD8qtB4xE

Summer for the Gods by Edward J. Larson https://amzn.to/37yEmuS

1911 Brigham Young University modernism controversy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Brigham_Young_University_modernism_controversy

Ark Baby by Liz Jensen

https://amzn.to/2XHNMzL

Evolving Faith by Steven L. Peck

https://amzn.to/2O3bgfc

Origin of species

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_Species

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How do LDS works get canonized?  Should the King Follet Discourse be scripture?  What about other teachings of Joseph Smith or more recent prophets?  Lots of references in the show notes for this one. Check them out!

The King Follett Discourse

http://mldb.byu.edu/follett.htm

Mormon Literature Online Anthology Sampler, Selections from various genres and periods of Mormon Literature

http://mldb.byu.edu/mlitsamp.htm

Wiki for the King Follett Discourse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Follett_discourse

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, by Joseph Fielding Smith (1938)

https://scriptures.byu.edu/tpjs/STPJS.pdf

Gospel Principles, Ch. 47 Exaltation

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-47-exaltation

Wiki standard works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_works

Wiki common consent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_consent

Proclamations, declarations clarify, reaffirm LDS doctrine, by Julie Dockstader (includes quote from Edward J. Brandt)

https://www.thechurchnews.com/archives/1999-11-06/proclamations-declarations-clarify-reaffirm-lds-doctrine-121422

Proclamations of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, by Robert J. Matthews

https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Proclamations_of_the_First_Presidency_and_the_Quorum_of_the_Twelve_Apostles

Closing Remarks, by President Russell M. Nelson, Sunday Afternoon session, October 2019 General Conference (includes information about upcoming Spring 2020 General Conference)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2019/10/57nelson

The Family, A Proclamation to the World

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world/the-family-a-proclamation-to-the-world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family:_A_Proclamation_to_the_World

Women across the globe hope to follow and change LDS Church, their families as they unleash their influence, by Karissa Neely (includes quotes by Melissa Inouye)

https://www.heraldextra.com/special-section/lds/fall2019/the-global-power-of-women-in-the-lds-church/article_80c77d5f-8712-5011-b255-db29a6473dd4.html

More by Melissa Inouye: Crossings: A Bald Asian American Latter-day Saint Woman Scholar's Ventures Through Life, Death, Cancer, and Motherhood (2019)

https://amzn.to/32BKVJp

David O. McKay and the Rise of Modern Mormonism, by Gregory Prince and Wm. Robert Wright (2005)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_O._McKay_and_the_Rise_of_Modern_Mormonism

“The perfect union of man and woman”: reclamation and collaboration in Joseph Smith’s theology making, by Fiona Givens

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V49N01_99.pdf

Female Ritual Healing in Mormonism, by Jonathan A. Stapley and Kristine Wright.  Journal of Mormon History Vol. 37, No. 1, Winter 2011, pp 1-85 (see page 57)

https://mormonhistoryassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Journal-of-Mormon-History-Vol.-37-Issue-1-2011.pdf

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For the start of season 2, Aaron and Eric chat about the Millenium, signs of the second coming, transhumanism, and what % of the world is going to what % of hell in what % of a handbasket :)

Gospel topics second coming/millennium

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/second-coming-of-jesus-christ

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/millennium

5 myths about the millennium by Robert L. Millet

http://www.ldsliving.com/5-Millennium-Myths-You-Thought-Were-True/s/76486

Gospel principles

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-43-signs-of-the-second-coming

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

War

https://youtu.be/NbuUW9i-mHs

Parasites

https://youtu.be/qNWWrDBRBqk

Overpopulation

https://youtu.be/QsBT5EQt348

Our world in data

https://ourworldindata.org

D&C 19

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/19

Transhumanism links

https://transfigurism.org/mormon-transhumanist-affirmation

Paradisiacal Glory by Katherine Cowley

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2019/07/paradisiacal-glory-katherine-cowley/

Brigham Young quote (from twitter :)

https://twitter.com/Keepapitchinin/status/1167127582489206785

Joel Pett climate summit cartoon

http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/store/add.php?iid=41786

Nephi Anderson’s novel Added Upon

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/17249

Gospel of Thomas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

Isaiah 64:4

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/isa/64.4

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What do mummies, papyrus, and a great fire have to do with modern scripture? Join us as we look at the broad meaning of the word translation and how it can be applied to Joseph Smith’s work and the Pearl of Great Price.

Changes to the Lord’s Prayer

https://www.ucatholic.com/news/pope-francis-approves-changes-to-lords-prayer-gloria-of-italian-missal/

Joseph Smith’s translation of the Lord’s Prayer

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/jst/jst-matt/6.14

Wiki: Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible

Gospel topics essay: Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics-essays/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng&_r=1

Abraham 3:22-23

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/abr/3.22-23?lang=eng#p22

Wiki: Critical appraisal of the Book of Abraham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_appraisal_of_the_Book_of_Abraham

Letters to a Young Mormon (pages 32 and 34), by Adam S. Miller

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20427135-letters-to-a-young-mormon

South Park!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_Mormons

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Let’s talk about aliens! Our hosts discuss the Fermi paradox, Drake’s equation and SETI, and then cover how Mormon doctrines about many worlds relate to the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

Wiki links!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_cosmology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Follett_discourse

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

The Fermi Paradox — Where Are All The Aliens? Parts 1 and 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNhhvQGsMEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQkVqno-uI

60 minutes interview with President Hinckley. Note this video doesn’t have the quote we mentioned which was actually from a Time article. We include here a FairMormon article discussing how President Hinckley was actually taken a bit out of context in that article.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK0PxT5Vm4g

https://www.fairmormon.org/archive/publications/does_president_hinckley_understand_lds_doctrine

Literature!

Leviathan Wakes, by James S. A. Corey

https://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-Wakes-James-S-Corey/dp/0316129089

"Avek, Who Is Distributed" (story about baptizing an AI)

online:

https://lit.mormonartist.net/2016/02/avek-who-is-distributed/

Original discussion page:

https://motleyvision.org/2012/10/26/discuss-avek-who-is-distributed-by-steven-peck/

Collected here: https://amzn.to/2JbcZx8

Monsters & Mormons: https://www.amazon.com/Monsters-Mormons-Wm-Henry-Morris/dp/0982781245

"Let the Mountains Tremble for Adoniha Has Fallen" by Steven L. Peck (medieval Mormons on Mars)

"Bokev Momen" by D. Michael Martindale (aliens rescue adducted missionary)

"That Leviathan Whom Thou Hast Made" by Eric James Stone (aliens that live in the Sun)

not included in discussion: "First Estate" by Katherine Woodbury: Mormon Ruth and her alien Boaz

Johnson, Hollis R. (1992), "Worlds", in Ludlow, Daniel H (ed.), Encyclopedia of Mormonism, New York: Macmillan Publishing, pp. 1595–96, ISBN 0-02-879602-0, OCLC 24502140

http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/EoM/id/4358

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Our hosts discuss the book “The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy,” by Carol Lynn Pearson.

The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy: Haunting the Hearts and Heaven of Mormon Women and Men, by Carol Lynn Pearson:

https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208

Eric’s literary works:

The Widower: https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V42N02_137.pdf

The Prophetess of Mars: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NSJMQBV

Book review by Rebecca J

https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/12/28/book-reviewish-carol-lynn-pearsons-the-ghost-of-eternal-polygamy/

Privileged, by Kyle Korver

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/kyle-korver-utah-jazz-nba

Too sacred for public consumption -or- Disgusting the prophet’s wife, blog entry by Eric

https://motleyvision.org/2009/07/09/too-sacred-for-public-consumption-or-disgusting-the-prophets-wife/

The panel honoring Carol Lynn Pearson: AML Conference 2019. Quote from 1:28:57-1:31:25:

http://associationmormonletters.org/blog/2019/04/carol-lynn-pearson-2019/

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The 2019 Association for Mormon Letters conference was excellent. Our hosts use some of the panels as a means to discuss Mormon literature in general, focusing on the work of Carol Lynn Pearson, and on the new church history book, Saints.

Authors mentioned: Brandon Sanderson, Orson Scott Card, and DJ Butler. Favorite books by them:

Mistborn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistborn

Ender’s Game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game

Witchy Eye: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30753675-witchy-eye

Carol Lynn Pearson: books mentioned: Beginnings, the Ghost of Eternal Polygamy, and Goodbye, I love you. The poem, A Motherless House:

http://www.amotherhere.com/coll/pearson1.php

The Ghost of Eternal Polygamy will be discussed on a future episode:

https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Eternal-Polygamy-Haunting-Hearts/dp/0997458208

The Saint’s panel was comprised of authors Scott Hales, James Goldberg, Melissa Leilani Larson, and Angela Hallstrom. Some of their work:

The Garden of Enid: http://thegardenofenid.tumblr.com/

The Five Books of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Five-Books-Jesus-James-Goldberg/dp/1479271306

Jane and Emma: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8581198

Bound on Earth: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2793921-bound-on-earth

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Heavenly Mother is one of the most interesting Latter-Day Saint doctrines! We don't know a lot, but what we do know is awesome. Enjoy!

Oh My Father

https://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/o-my-father

LDS topics, Mother in Heaven

https://www.lds.org/topics/mother-in-heaven

"A Mother There": A Survey of Historical Teachings about Mother in Heaven, by Author David L. Paulsen, Author Martin Pulido

https://byustudies.byu.edu/content/mother-there-survey-historical-teachings-about-mother-heaven

How to worship our Mother in Heaven (without getting excommunicated) by Kevin L. Barney

https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V41N04_133.pdf

AML conference program

https://bitly.com/aml2019prog

Poems!

Walk in the pink moccasins by Carol Lynn Pearson

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/pdf/137-21-25.pdf

Motherless House by Carol Lynn Pearson

http://www.amotherhere.com/coll/pearson1.php#sthash.CcHmwUg0.dpbs

A hymn for mother’s day in long meter, by Theric Jepson

http://amotherhere.com/coll/jepson.php#sthash.492OBnkp.Cnftw0gn.dpbs

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Do we have free will?  Is your neighbor a philosophical zombie?  Are we living in a simulation? Our hosts hit scriptures, sci fi, and neurobiology to discuss agency and determinism in religion and science.

References

https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-4-freedom-to-choose

Arcadia from Tom Stoppard (mentioned in passing) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(play)

JST as an anti-determinist text. Compare https://www.lds.org/scriptures/ot/ex/10 and http://classic.scriptures.lds.org/en/jst/contents

The Hard Problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hard_Problem

Wiki article on the hard problem of consciousness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

Joseph Campbell on consciousness https://amzn.to/2XuL9jW

Infinite monkey cage podcast.  Two episodes:

Are We Living in a Simulation? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08zb4d8

The Mind v the Brain https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0901bw2

Theric’s story http://bit.ly/thafterlife

Good Time (words: Vasilis Pozios | Pictures: Zakk Saam) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tylerchintanner/all-we-ever-wanted-stories-of-a-better-world

Pascal’s wager https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

What's expected of us, by Ted Chiang: https://www.nature.com/articles/436150a

"Art is that over which beings with perfect knowledge can still have divergent viewpoints." ----D. Michael Martindale https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2011/08/found-quotes.html

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Secret or sacred?  Taboo or simply uncomfortable?  Important or trivial? With the temple ceremony changes in the news lately, our hosts discuss why Mormons don’t go into the ceremony specifics, what kinds of venues are appropriate for difficult subjects, and when it’s appropriate to espouse the virtue of silence.  Also, awesome 80’s comics apparently helped change the church?

First Presidency Statement on Temples

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/temple-worship

Temple firesides in prep for the open house, including topics on Eve, the creation, and the temple experience.

Tweetstorm from @MattathiasW regarding silence and the temple ceremony

https://twitter.com/MattathiasW/status/1081576820057681920

Eric’s tweet requesting examples of some things Latter-day Saints shy away from speaking of

https://twitter.com/thmazing/status/1085779539668566016

Laugh precedes the miracle:: How Calvin Grondahl and Pat Bagley Changed Mormonism, by Lynne Gorton Cropper.  The specific comic referred to in the episode is reproduced in this article.

https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/laughs-precede-the-miracle-how-calvin-grondahl-and-pat-bagley-changed-mormonism/

The virtue of silence, by Scott Alexander. In the episode we cite this article but go in a different direction. It’s worth checking out the original topic.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/14/the-virtue-of-silence/

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Our hosts look at how money moves through the church and some of the fascinating history behind its finances.

Church’s statement on its finances from 2018:

https://www.lds.org/church/news/read-a-summary-of-the-financial-information-released-by-the-church

Wiki article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finances_of_The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints

LDS Inc article from By Common Consent:

https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/06/02/lds-inc/

Mentioned by Eric but not really on topic ;)  A House Full of Females: Plural Marriage and Women's Rights in Early Mormonism, 1835-1870, by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

https://books.google.com/books/about/?id=0fmxDQAAQBAJ

Money as debt website:

http://www.moneyasdebt.net/

Playlist with the full documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdMxiaZGboJSgU2raUksCFGSUfWS8eHR8

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Aaron and Eric introduce the podcast!  Our hosts discuss critical thinking and its application to LDS miscellany and they describe their Berkeley influences.  Also a magic card comes up, but it feels natural.

Magic card!

http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/skewer-the-critics

Wikipedia on critical thinking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

Eric’s reviews of the two books mentioned, Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover and The New York Regional Mormon Singles Halloween Dance by Elna Baker

https://thmazing.blogspot.com/2018/09/what-weird-expression-this-is.html#081

https://motleyvision.org/2009/10/14/elna-baker-slash-damage-control

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In which Aaron and Eric grapple with theodicy, aka the problem of evil given a benevolent God, as presented by Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal.  After going over some feedback from our pilot episode, we tackle theodicy and how it relates to DNA replication, Euclidean geometry and evolution.

SMBC comic on which the episode is based, by Zach Weinersmith: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-06-30

Theodicy! By wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy

Geometry! "It is not possible to prove every statement... nevertheless, we should prove as many statements as possible." https://themathpage.com/aBookI/first.htm

Evolving Faith - Wanderings of a Mormon Biologist, by Steven L. Peck https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27137644-evolving-faith---wanderings-of-a-mormon-biologist

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In which Aaron talks with Eric about Joseph Smith's seer stone.

References:

Seer stone and additional photos from 2015 Ensign article

Main FairMormon article

Brant A Gardner, FairMormon conference, 2009

About FairMormon

Religion of a different color by W. Paul Reeve

Pictures:

Joseph and his hat

Joseph Smith Translating

Emma and Joseph