A podcast about making the most of this life by reframing your story, building better relationships, and cultivating wonder and gratitude. Hosted by longtime counselor and community builder Bart Campolo, the show features warm, thoughtful conversations about generating love and meaning in a universe that doesn’t always provide it.
Dear Friends,
Almost 10 years ago, I recorded the first episode of The Wonder-full Podcast, which turned into Humanize Me the following year. Over the course of the roughly 230 episodes that followed, you and I have enjoyed talking to scientists, artists, community builders, influencers, authors, and each other about how to make the most of this life by building loving relationships, cultivating our senses of wonder and gratitude, and making meaning by making things better for other people. Frankly, engineering that shared journey with my dear friend John Wright has been one of the greatest privileges of my life. So then, I think it is quite fitting that in this final episode, John helps me explain why that journey must come to an end.
What is impossible to explain, I’m afraid, is the deep gratitude I am feeling for each and every one of you listeners, and especially to those who have actively supported the podcast with your encouragement, ideas, and financial support. As you’ll hear, both John and I hope this isn’t the last time we dust off our mics and fire up that Humanize Me theme song, but in the meantime we want you to know that the podcast feed with all its episodes, along with the website, social media accounts and Facebook Group will all stay live, so that old friends can come back for a visit and folks like us can stumble onto our kind of hope. To that end, we've pulled together a short list of all-time favorites at HumanizeMePodcast.com.
Please feel free to reach out to me at BartCampolo.org if you’ve got a question or a story, or just want to share what the podcast has meant to you. Rest assured, I’ll be thrilled to hear from you. After all, my ankles are creakier, my public profile is lower, and my wee bit of hair is seriously gray, but my commitment to building and maintaining humanizing connections hasn’t waned a bit. Thank you so much for listening to John and me over these years. One way or another, I have a hunch we’ll see you again… on Humanize Me.
Much love,
Bart
Brian McLaren's new book defines 'doom' as, "The psychological sense that we know our problems are bigger than our solutions." In this episode, he and Bart talk about their fears for the future, a potential collapse in our way of life, how they think about 'hope', and what kinds of things are likely to help people in the worst-case scenarios.
As Brian warns in his book, this is not a conversation for those who aren't already in a fairly secure place emotionally or psychologically.
"Bart, in your episode with Devin Moss you mentioned envying his role as a humanist chaplain for someone on death row, because he could throw himself into totally being there for that man, knowing it was only for a limited amount of time. That sounded easier to you than committing to love a needy person with lots of life ahead of them. That one strange comment has raised a lot of questions for me: Do we really have to be there for someone throughout every stupid thing they do? Why can't we just be there for an episode or two and then move on? Why can't somebody else step up once in a while? ... Obviously, we all have limited amounts of time, energy and emotional capacity. Essentially, I guess I'm asking: what do you think are the limits of our responsibilities to others?"
Bart and John discuss.
Those whose answer to their religion is 'Nothing in particular' make up an increasing number of the population of the United States. They're part of a larger group of 'nones' who differ in many ways, even among each other. In this episode, Bart dives into the most recent data with Alan Cooperman from the Pew Research Center, who talks about religious trends in America, behavior of religious groups, levels of engagement with group organization of various kinds, and how an increase in isolation may play a part. If you're most interested in the data itself, we start to get into the nitty gritty around 15 mins into this episode.
Devin Moss is a media producer who became a humanist chaplain during the pandemic and surprisingly quickly found himself ministering to a death row inmate called Phillip Hancock. He was there in Hancock's final moments, a story he tells in this New York Times Magazine article, plunging him into the question of what it really means to face death without God.
Brian Swimme is an evolutionary cosmologist whose latest book, Cosmogenesis, is autobiographical, but is also an attempt to tell the story of the universe as science knows it, placing human beings inside the story. Brian believes that, properly told, the story is awe-inspiring, beautiful and unifying, and potentially a foundation for a better world. In this episode, Bart tries to understand Brian's work, and how he seeks to 'turn others on' to what inspires him about our universe.
In the last of three episodes on 'high disclosure relationships', Bart gets to know someone in depth from scratch - a Humanize Me listener called Patti, who turns out to be as wonderful as we could have hoped - and in the process, provides an example of such conversations to inspire you to do the same.
Bart shares a tool he's used often to connect with people in the manner discussed in episode 901 with Rich Slatcher.
Rich Slatcher is a psychologist who is the current Gail M. Williamson Distinguished Professor in the Behavior and Brain Sciences area of the Department of Psychology at the University of Georgia. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, he talks about the power of self-disclosure in relationships, and the other factors which draw people closer to each other.
There’s doom and gloom in the ether, and many people aren't feeling too great about the world. What to do?
Bart thinks the best move is to swing to the stoics, with a sense of separating what we can control versus what we can’t. Simply 'doing the next right thing'. Some things we can control: our next moves, our vote, our transactions, the ways we communicate, the protections we give our children, and what we pay attention to.
To the point of what we pay attention to, Bart has a list of recommendations for some content on the theme of doing the next right thing, along the lines of some of the lists often shared in the media around this time of year. These are the podcasts, TV shows, movies and songs mentioned in this episode:
We'll have one more episode this year for patrons of the show at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe. And with that, from us, a happy new year! See you in 2024.
Thanksgiving is here in the United States, set aside for the emotion of gratitude. We wonder what other emotions would be worth setting aside some time to express? Mentioned in the episode: this video and this 'emotion wheel.'
A 'Q&R' episode where a listener question about truth leads to morality via Dan Dennett.
Kate Cohen is a contributing columnist at The Washington Post whose new book, We of Little Faith: Why I Stopped Pretending to Believe (And Maybe You Should Too), is of obvious interest to us at Humanize Me. Kate's book can be found on Amazon and wherever else books are sold.
Bart talks with prominent evangelical Christian author Philip Yancey, whose books have been instrumental in supporting the faith of many Christians and whose recent memoir, Where the Light Fell, led to this conversation. In it, the two talk about their upbringings, their faith journey and Bart's deconstruction of faith, their values and more.
Is it right, or not, to have biological children? The last time Bart addressed this issue in the podcast (Episode 514), it generated lots of passionate replies, including one listener in particular whose angry email we read aloud in this episode. Since we didn't feel we did the subject justice last time, or the people for whom it's an important question, we're revisiting it, having received some newer emails seeking clarification on whether Bart thinks humanists should be having biological children. (Content warning: there are a few swears within this episode.)
Back from a summer vacation and into a wide-ranging conversation with Lisa Kentgen, a psychologist who's written a book called The Practice of Belonging: Six Lessons from Vibrant Communities to Combat Loneliness, Foster Diversity, and Cultivate Caring Relationships.
Robert Rooks is the CEO of REFORM Alliance, a criminal justice organization focused on transforming probation and parole systems. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, he talks about seeing the hardships in his community growing up, and how he became inspired to start to work on systemic change. In the process, Robert lays out some solid, practical things that listeners can do to help.
A listener asks: "Hi Bart, I just want to encourage you by communicating how much your podcast has helped me and is sustaining me in my deconversion journey. In your conversation earlier this month with Ursula Goodenough, you talked about a reverence and awe for the natural world, and I couldn’t help but think of a bible verse admonishing Christians to worship the Creator, rather than the created. I could see my Christian friends using that verse to tell we humanists that we’re guilty of worshipping the wrong thing. What do you think of this and how would you respond?"
They say you should never meet your heroes, but this conversation with Ursula Goodenough proves definitively that it isn't always true! Bart first read Ursula's book, The Sacred Depths of Nature, almost immediately after deconverting from Christianity many years ago. It was a massive influence on his thinking, providing a scientific basis for a rational devotion to life, and forming the narrative around which he based his version of secular humanism. A new edition of the book has just been released, so it's a perfect time for a conversation with its author! Ursula is a Professor of Biology Emerita at Washington University in St. Louis who was recently elected to the National Academy of Sciences.
It was only a matter of time before we got drawn into the burgeoning conversation about recent advances in artificial intelligence. A listener called Steve asks: "What do you think are the implications of AI for those of us devoted to the human experience?" Although he doesn't have a clear answer, and admits a catastrophist's bias, Bart shares some initial thoughts in response and argues that, even if the rise of AI is a very bad thing for the world, it can nevertheless reaffirm our existing humanist values and amplify the reasons to create supportive communities.
Featuring a 'cold open' by an artificial Bart-like interloper. Were you fooled?
You’re probably never going to be a saint. Even so, let’s face it: you could be a better person. We all could. Todd May is a philosopher whose work brings high-minded philosophical concepts - like how to live a decent life - down to earth in attainable, realistic ways. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Todd talks about aspiring to be decent, moral gracefulness, reasons for morality, intentions, honesty and truthfulness, happiness versus flourishing, altruism, the concept of evil, 'normal' selfishness, stoicism and Todd's work on The Good Place.
Two questions are posed to Bart, the first of which he declines to answer! Iain McGilchrist is one of several prominent thinkers who seem to suggest that consciousness is a fundamental of the universe, and that reality may not be entirely physical in nature. What does Bart think of these ideas? The second involves a listener whose liberal Christian friend can't understand her atheism. How can she articulate her disinterest to her friend?
Sasha Sagan is an author and now a podcaster who is intensely curious about the rituals, traditions, norms and practices which help define communities of people. When we had her on the podcast in 2020, it was because Sasha had released a book on the subject, For Small Creatures Such As We. The recent launch of her podcast, Strange Customs, inspired us to reach back out and ask her how rituals might find their place in today's world.
After Bart's deconversion from Christianity, he has been a 'naturalist', lacking belief in any of the proposed deities and supernatural ideas. But how satisfied is he that he's right about this? How surprised would he be to suddenly emerge into an afterlife of some kind? Bart and producer John discuss.
We've recently been wondering about the movement in Kentucky that has become known as the 'Asbury revival', and the mass religious experiences that have been reported there in the last couple of months. We could think of nobody better to help us think about it than TM Luhrmann, a highly esteemed psychological anthropologist currently based at Stanford University. Tanya is known partly for her study of religious groups, including evangelical and charismatic Christians. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, she talks about the 'inner sense' of believers that their beliefs are true, how religions allow these experiences to form the heart of their narratives, religious shame, authority, imagination and self-reinforcement, and more.
“Hey Bart, I came across an article on Vox talking about the movement known as Effective Altruism, and the fall of one of its star advocates, cryptocurrency exchange owner Sam Bankman-Fried. The guy had lost at least a billion dollars of his clients’ money after he secretly transferred it to a hedge fund he owned, he’s now been arrested for it. But what’s confusing is that his stated goal in life was to do good: he said wanted to make a lot of money in finance so he could give most of it away to good causes, specifically causes identified using Effective Altruism. Paraphrasing from the Vox article: 'Effective altruism is a social movement that’s all about using reason and evidence to do the most good for the most people. … Yet it looks like Bankman-Fried has done a lot of BAD to a lot of people.' On top of this, Bart, I know there have been other criticisms of Effective Altruism, and I was just wondering if you have any thoughts on whether a good humanist - and maybe especially a Humanize Me listener - should be involved in Effective Altruism or whether it’s a dubious proposition these days. Thanks!”
We're joined by leading bible scholar Bart Ehrman, who has written many New York Times best-selling books on the Bible and related topics. This conversation is, in Ehrman's own summation, a blend of the intellect and the heart, touching on many things including belief and disbelief, the way people misinterpret Scripture, the message of Jesus compared to that of Paul or the book of Revelation, how to relate to people who throw bible verses around, and many other things. Stay tuned at the end for a piece of the conversation that almost ended up on the cutting room floor.
In lieu of a full episode this time, here's a short, hopeful thought from a sick-sounding Bart Campolo.
Awash in a sea of information and misinformation, most of us don't know how to navigate today's media landscape, especially when it comes to news. How do we know what sources we can trust? And as we enter a new year, if we approached it like a diet, what are the best and healthiest ingredients and recipes?
Our guest Vanessa Otero has thought about this more than most people. A former lawyer, she invented the Ad Fontes Media Chart, which places just about every news outlet you know (and many you don't) on an axis of political bias and reliability. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, she talks about the problems people face when trying to get reliable news and gives optimistic, practical advice on how to solve them. In the process she recommends the 1440 newsletter and other resources.
Every month we release a bonus episode to supporters of the podcast on Patreon. These episodes are more personal and relaxed, with 'meta' reflections on recent guests and listener feedback, and fresh installments in the saga of Bart's ongoing effort to engineer a replicable church-like community for... uh... well, for people like Bart!
This month, as a holiday gift to all Humanize Me listeners, we're sharing that Patreon-exclusive episode in the main podcast feed. Join us as we reflect on 2022, share our favorite movies, TV shows, books, songs, and people of the year, and serenade you into the new year!
Bart and John respond to a question from a listener who, despite knowing her grandfather was going to die, missed his final moments and feels deep regret about it. Bart suggests she look at it as a gift from her grandfather which could serve her well for a lifetime: and a valuable reminder to all of us about the virtue of being present.
Josh Kaufman won NBC’s The Voice in 2014 after wowing the talent show’s judges and audience with his soulful vocals and charisma. After getting an email from him recently, Bart invited Josh on the podcast to ask about his story of deconversion from Christianity in college and subsequent re-conversion in recent years, and wonders what it’s like to step back into a worldview he had rejected.
Bart answers a question from a listener who is nervous going into a fraught holiday gathering. In the process we talk about some tools that may be prepared for use beforehand.
After a recent rise in talk of antisemitism, we couldn't help but think about this classic episode of Humanize Me featuring the hosts of the Unorthodox podcast, Mark Oppenheimer, Stephanie Butnick and Liel Leibovitz. They're some of our favorite people, and it's a fun conversation about Jewishness in America, Jewish culture, and how to be a good gentile. Featuring a new intro by Bart.
Our bodies are tied up with so much - beauty standards, phobias, obsessions and stigmas - and we think there are more and less humanizing ways to talk and think about them. Molly Robbins was the perfect guest to help us; she's the host of the My Big Fat Recovery podcast, and has lots of helpful things to say about the experience of having a big body in a diet-obsessed culture. Bart asks Molly about the principles of 'intuitive eating' and other topics.
Our bodies are tied up with so much - beauty standards, phobias, obsessions and stigmas - and we think there are more and less humanizing ways to talk and think about them. Molly Robbins was the perfect guest to help us; she's the host of the My Big Fat Recovery podcast, and has lots of helpful things to say about the experience of having a big body in a diet-obsessed culture. Bart asks Molly about the principles of 'intuitive eating' and other topics.
Bart answers a question from a listener whose habits while living alone make her feel bad about herself. Bart thinks he may have some solid humanist advice as a first step.
Bart answers a question from a listener whose habits while living alone make her feel bad about herself. Bart thinks he may have some solid humanist advice as a first step.
Cian is a listener of Humanize Me. He and his wife Krista got in touch to talk about the very tangible and personal way the U.S. Supreme Court’s strike-down of Roe v Wade hit them after they ended a pregnancy due to fetal abnormality. Bart decided to invite them to tell their story on the podcast and in the process, Krista and Cian relate in a warm, compelling way the complex reality of the issue in a real couple's lives.
Cian is a listener of Humanize Me. He and his wife Krista got in touch to talk about the very tangible and personal way the U.S. Supreme Court’s strike-down of Roe v Wade hit them after they ended a pregnancy due to fetal abnormality. Bart decided to invite them to tell their story on the podcast and in the process, Krista and Cian relate in a warm, compelling way the complex reality of the issue in a real couple's lives.
What’s wrong with Rotary? Does religion comfort people in hard times? Is it wrong to want my wife to stop pleasuring herself? How do you find a good media diet? Should I support my friend as she explores religion? Bart and John take not 1 but 5 listener questions, and share thoughts on each.
Bart welcomes back Dave Warnock, who had a memorable first appearance in 2019 (Episode 419). They talk about his recently released memoir, his deconversion from Christianity and later diagnosis of ALS, relationships with family after deconverting, navigating the end of life, and avoiding the word 'just'.
Bart enjoys a wide-ranging conversation with Bill Deresiewicz that touches on solitude, moral goodness, the value of the arts, the interplay of power, rituals and practices, fundamentalisms and friendship. Bill is a world-class literary critic and a former professor of English at Yale University whose latest book of essays - The End of Solitude - is available now.
Fine, a listener says, you've sold me on the concept that life can be meaningful even if there isn't a grand design involved. But how do we actually do it? Bart and John discuss.
Game designer Logan Dean talks with Bart about the nature of play, storytelling, community, competitiveness and how playing games can help us understand others.
A classic episode! Amber Scorah was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. She tells the story of her 'deconversion' in her book, 'Leaving the Witness: Exiting a Religion and Finding a Life'. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Amber talks about what it was like to believe fully, what it's like to disbelieve now, how her relationships were affected, the death of her young son Karl on his first day in childcare, her views on life now, and much more.
Bart and John respond to a question from a listener who worries that, having started a journey out of his faith, he is now becoming incompatible with his Christian girlfriend. Bart thinks their difference in worldview is a reason for lots of caution and reflection, while John wishes romance could rule the day. Along the way, they land on some ancient advice: ‘Know thyself!’
The evangelical culture of sexual purity has left many who grew up in it hurt and sometimes even traumatized. In this episode, Bart and our guest, counselor Jenny McGrath, discuss purity culture, dynamics between evangelical men and women, power structures of race and gender, sex before marriage, the mechanics of desire, and much more.
You can discover more about Jenny here: indwellmovement.com
John and Bart are back in the studio together on this week’s episode to discuss the nature of character and how to evaluate the character of others.
Bart and chaos witch Vanessa Walilko discuss her playful approach to belief, and to helping others through witchcraft. Bart, a witchcraft sceptic, even gets his tarot read! Find out more about Vanessa and her work at https://linktr.ee/kalibutterfly
Bart responds to a question from a listener who says they have less tolerance for social interaction since society 'opened back up' after the pandemic lockdowns.
Bart muses an experience he's seen shared in therapy sessions recently: a former Christian who, in the process of re-evaluating their lives, begins to consider opening their relationship. Is it a good idea? Bart has seen it work, but has lots of words of caution.
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Bart muses an experience he's heard recently: a former Christian who, in the process of re-evaluating their lives, begins to consider opening their relationship. Is it a good idea? Bart has seen it work, but has lots of words of caution.
After a podcast hiatus, Bart and John attempt to answer this listener question:
"When I read about the war in Ukraine, I find my stress level rising. I guess I could just avoid the news, but that doesn’t seem healthy either. How stressed out is it logical to be at this moment in history for an average American, and how much should I let it get in the way of enjoying my life?"
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After a podcast hiatus, Bart and John attempt to answer this listener question:
"When I read about the war in Ukraine, I find my stress level rising. I guess I could just avoid the news, but that doesn’t seem healthy either. How stressed out is it logical to be at this moment in history for an average American, and how much should I let it get in the way of enjoying my life?"
Bart reflects on the state of the evangelical movement he was once a part of, particularly by taking a moment to see it through his father Tony's lens. Mentioned in the episode: Leaving My Father's Faith, the documentary by John Wright, now available to watch in its entirety on YouTube.
How should we deal with irrational or difficult people? And what are some good strategies for establishing healthy boundaries with such people in our lives? As a very pro-social podcast, we realized this may be our weakness after we talked to Chrissy Stroop in Episode 618. Chrissy, a trans woman, told us she did not feel it her responsibility to keep toxic or unsupportive people in her life, and Bart pushed back because he feels building bridges across such divides is so important. Where should the healthy limits of our empathy, tolerance and relationship-building be set?
Mark Goulston is a psychiatrist, author, professor and consultant to corporations and large organizations who is known for a process called 'surgical empathy' among many other things. His book Talking to Crazy was the reason we wanted him on, but he has many others available everywhere books are sold. In this conversation with Bart, Mark talks about validation therapy, the mirror neuron gap, surgical empathy, connecting with people in pain, the direct relationship between oxytocin and cortisol, awareness conversations versus advice conversations, givers, takers and receivers, assertive humility, the role of adrenaline in coping with trauma, Sharon Tate's mom, the five 'really's, and more.
Let's be honest: some people just don't inspire our empathy! In this last episode of 2021, Bart responds to a post on the Humanize Me Facebook Group, in which a woman feels unempathetic about consequences suffered by her sister due to the sister's own bad decisions. She feels like "a bad person", she says, but should she? And how should we feel about our own lack of empathy in such situations? To resurrect a previous term on Humanize Me, this episode is a bit of a 'salmagundi': we also talk about Christmas traditions, whether kids who do good things just to stay on Santa's 'nice' list are doing it for valid reasons, and about a Pew poll showing that people with no religious beliefs outnumber evangelicals for the first time in American history. Oh, and: Happy New Year!
Bart with a solo episode on how we create meaning in our lives, and get access to meaning as we live in connection to the universe.
Chrissy Stroop is a writer and scholar who, despite being an 'exvangelical', remains interested in, and critical of, evangelical culture. When she recently mentioned Bart Campolo in an article, we reached out to ask her if she wanted to have a conversation about how evangelicals think and talk about those who leave the faith. But the conversation took a different turn, becoming a friendly disagreement over whether or not we should try to form friendships with people who don't share our core values, or when there's a big ideological divide. Chrissy, a trans woman, thinks not, because she doesn't believe that friendships should involve attempts to change other people, while Bart thinks influencing others is a key part of relationships. Read Chrissy's article, Exvangelicals and the limits of evangelical empathy. And see her website at cstroop.com.
Chrissy Stroop is a writer and scholar who, despite being an 'exvangelical', remains interested in, and critical of, evangelical culture. When she recently mentioned Bart Campolo in an article, we reached out to ask her if she wanted to have a conversation about how evangelicals think and talk about those who leave the faith. But the conversation took a different turn, becoming a friendly disagreement over whether or not we should try to form friendships with people who don't share our core values, or when there's a big ideological divide. Chrissy, a trans woman, thinks not, because she doesn't believe that friendships should involve attempts to change other people, while Bart thinks influencing others is a key part of relationships.
Read Chrissy's article, Exvangelicals and the limits of evangelical empathy. And see her website at cstroop.com.
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Bart responds to a question from a listener who wants to know why he doesn't talk more about his time as a Christian minister in poor urban neighborhoods, and what his experiences make him think about the possibility of future change. Also mentioned: Mt. Joy - Silver Lining on YouTube
Derek Gaunt in an educator and author with 20 years of experience as a hostage negotiator for law enforcement agencies in the Washington DC metro area. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Derek talks about 'tactical empathy', emotional intelligence, controlling how someone feels about you, building trust, truly listening to someone's story, understanding motivation, looking for hidden messages and meaning, how to respect the person even if you don't respect their decisions or actions, and how to focus on what's important in the time you have with someone. Derek's book is 'Ego, Authority, Failure'.
Bart talks about a 'combo platter' leading to a big mental block recently, and asks whether we can learn to overcome them more effectively when they happen.
Bart talks about a 'combo platter' leading to a big mental block recently, and asks whether we can learn to overcome them more effectively when they happen.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Does the mind have an immune system? It turns out it does, according to Andy Norman, who applies the emerging science of cognitive immunology to our divided, post-truth culture. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Andy is pushed to explain how the concepts in his book 'Mental Immunity' can help people navigate our chaos of disinformation, propaganda, hate, and division. Andy is an award-winning author who appeared most recently on The Joe Rogan Experience. He can be found online at AndyNorman.org.
Bart and John talk about the current status of life in a waning pandemic, including: the psychology of lockdown, the permanency or otherwise of the changes, appetite for social life, impact on infants and high school seniors, the prospect of a rebounding economy and whether or not we took advantage of the 'magic' of the pause.
Before recent events in Israel and Palestine, Bart Campolo had this conversation with Salwa and Gerard of an organization called Military Court Watch in Jerusalem. In it, we hear about Salwa's experiences growing up in the region, and what drew Gerard to working there as an attorney. There are no easy answers about the conflict there, and we don't offer any in this episode. But human rights, humanist ideas and a focus on children are highlighted in a very insightful way.
Bart and John discuss the a question from a listener called Paolo about believing in miracles. Even though he has many issues with the rational case for Christianity, Paolo's own experiences make him inclined to hold onto his faith. And let's be honest, we live in a world where weird things sometimes happen. Do you believe in miracles?
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Bart and John discuss the a question from a listener called Paolo about believing in miracles. Even though he has many issues with the rational case for Christianity, Paolo's own experiences make him inclined to hold onto his faith. And let's be honest, we live in a world where weird things sometimes happen. Do you believe in miracles?
Johann Hari is an international best-selling author, journalist and thinker who has written two books we especially love: Chasing the Scream (about drugs and addiction) and Lost Connections (about what produces depression). So he may be one of the most fitting guests we've had.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Johann talks about the purpose of pain, the value of community, understanding despair, how people learn social skills and friendship, why our intuitions on addiction may be wrong and our intuitions on depression may be right, the psychological poisons in our culture, releasing shame as an antidepressant, and much more.
All things Johann can be found at JohannHari.com.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Johann Hari is an international best-selling author, journalist and thinker who has written two books we especially love: Chasing the Scream (about drugs and addiction) and Lost Connections (about what produces depression). So he may be one of the most fitting guests we've had. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Johann talks about the purpose of pain, the value of community, understanding despair, how people learn social skills and friendship, why our intuitions on addiction may bewrong and our intuitions on depression may be right, the psychological poisons in our culture, releasing shame as an antidepressant, and much more. All things Johann can be found at JohannHari.com.
...in the nicest possible way. On a recent episode, Bart Campolo casually referred to a bar full of people you might like to strike up a conversation with, saying, "There's a woman, there's a man, there's a woman who used to be a man." A trans woman called Rya wrote us an email, in the process giving us the perfect model for how to address someone you disagree with. It was so perfect we thought we'd share it. Also on this episode, the music of New Tycoon (a song called Ancient from the album Wholiness).
...in the nicest possible way. On a recent episode, Bart Campolo casually referred to a bar full of people you might like to strike up a conversation with, saying, "There's a woman, there's a man, there's a woman who used to be a man." A trans woman called Rya wrote us an email, in the process giving us the perfect model for how to address someone you disagree with. It was so perfect we thought we'd share it.
Also on this episode, the music of New Tycoon (a song called Ancient from the album Wholiness).
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How do we recapture political nuance, thoughtfulness and open-mindedness at a time when alternative media has hooked us on politics and broke our democracy? Claire Potter is a Professor of History and co-Executive Editor of Public Seminar at The New School for Social Research in Greenwich Village, New York City. In this conversation, she and Bart Campolo talk about the state of our political discourse and the attitudes that can promote the change we all want to see. Claire's website can be found at ClairePotter.com.
Bart talks to Joe Blankholm, a professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, who with his colleagues is conducting a survey of secular communities across the United States. Take the survey at http://secularcommunities.com/scs
From a listener: "I left my faith about 14 years ago. It has been a lonely experience, especially since back then, there wasn't the same connections through the internet that there are now. It seems like deconstruction is almost pop culture now, and being talked about everywhere. Anyways, I appreciate what you're doing and I'm inspired by your vision. I still 'feel' like a pastor in a lot of ways and like how you are helping people take the good parts of church and recreate them in a new context. I have been thinking about getting connected to others in the same boat as me. People who have left Christianity and are looking for community. I am from Kitchener, Ontario and I wondered if you had any connections to groups that I could connect with up here. I’m looking for a way to just talk about my experience of leaving faith and the lonely place it can be. If you don't have any recommendations, I'd love any tips or suggestions for getting likeminded people together, online right now because of COVID. I know that's a big question but any insight would be great." - Brian. Bart thinks it's harder as an adult than when you were in high school or college, but has some thoughts that may inspire you to make some practical moves. Some things we mention during the episode:
https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/resources
http://clergyproject.org
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1772151613053280
https://www.ted.com/talks/brene_brown_the_power_of_vulnerability
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/style/no-37-big-wedding-or-small.html
https://secularcommunities.com/scs
How can we learn to have our disagreements across ideological divides more constructively and respectfully? David C. Smalley may be something of an expert at this point, having conducted hundreds of long-form conversations - many of them with Christians - on his podcast for the last 11 years. In this episode with Bart Campolo, David talks about how he approaches these on-air disagreements, and what allows him to stay friends with many of his guests after they hang up the phone. Some takeaways: Keep watch over the temperature of a conversation, break anger with kindness, see insecurities for what they are, understand they see you as a victim of bad ideas, cultivate patience, ask lots of good questions and let them talk (which is actually thinking out loud), 'put on' their ideology for the conversation to explore it with them, be a tourist in their world with genuine curiosity. Subscribe to the David C. Smalley podcast in your favorite podcast app, and connect with him at his website, DavidCSmalley.com.
Bart and John share thoughts about the Inauguration of President Biden, the emotions it raises, what is entailed in turning the page as a nation, how to begin to bring Trump's most fervent supporters back into conversation, the importance of rituals like this, the Inauguration as a civic religious ceremony, and the actual religion in the ceremony including the biggest bible we've ever seen.
Amanda Gorman's poem:
When day comes we ask ourselves,
where can we find light in this never-ending shade?
The loss we carry,
a sea we must wade
We've braved the belly of the beast
We've learned that quiet isn't always peace
And the norms and notions
of what just is
Isn't always just-ice
And yet the dawn is ours
before we knew it
Somehow we do it
Somehow we've weathered and witnessed
a nation that isn't broken
but simply unfinished
We the successors of a country and a time
Where a skinny Black girl
descended from slaves and raised by a single mother
can dream of becoming president
only to find herself reciting for one
And yes we are far from polished
far from pristine
but that doesn't mean we are
striving to form a union that is perfect
We are striving to forge a union with purpose
To compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters and
conditions of man
And so we lift our gazes not to what stands between us
but what stands before us
We close the divide because we know, to put our future first,
we must first put our differences aside
We lay down our arms
so we can reach out our arms
to one another
We seek harm to none and harmony for all
Let the globe, if nothing else, say this is true:
That even as we grieved, we grew
That even as we hurt, we hoped
That even as we tired, we tried
That we'll forever be tied together, victorious
Not because we will never again know defeat
but because we will never again sow division
Scripture tells us to envision
that everyone shall sit under their own vine and fig tree
And no one shall make them afraid
If we're to live up to our own time
Then victory won't lie in the blade
But in all the bridges we've made
That is the promise to glade
The hill we climb
If only we dare
It's because being American is more than a pride we inherit,
it's the past we step into
and how we repair it
We've seen a force that would shatter our nation
rather than share it
Would destroy our country if it meant delaying democracy
And this effort very nearly succeeded
But while democracy can be periodically delayed
it can never be permanently defeated
In this truth
in this faith we trust
For while we have our eyes on the future
history has its eyes on us
This is the era of just redemption
We feared at its inception
We did not feel prepared to be the heirs
of such a terrifying hour
but within it we found the power
to author a new chapter
To offer hope and laughter to ourselves
So while once we asked,
how could we possibly prevail over catastrophe?
Now we assert
How could catastrophe possibly prevail over us?
We will not march back to what was
but move to what shall be
A country that is bruised but whole,
benevolent but bold,
fierce and free
We will not be turned around
or interrupted by intimidation
because we know our inaction and inertia
will be the inheritance of the next generation
Our blunders become their burdens
But one thing is certain:
If we merge mercy with might,
and might with right,
then love becomes our legacy
and change our children's birthright
So let us leave behind a country
better than the one we were left with
Every breath from...
What does it take to cope in a high-pressure, competitive environment... without falling into harmful behavior? Ali Tamposi is a grammy-nominated songwriter who has written for some of the biggest names in pop music: Kelly Clarkson, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, John Legend, Ozzy Osbourne and many others. She's also Bart Campolo's daughter-in-law-to-be.
In this conversation, Bart and Ali talk about what it's like to be in a songwriting session, how high-pressure, competitive environments can bring out everyone's insecurities, the better of her two coping strategies, how gender plays a role, how a good key relationship can make all the difference, and how you can't always change the room but rather what you bring to it.
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Bart joins Konrad Benjamin, host of the Australian podcast Ideas Digest, to talk about why he isn't a progressive Christian but rather a secular humanist, and to assert that they ALWAYS become atheists.
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A coronavirus story, Bart’s contention that Christmas should be once every 4 years, and a reminder that life isn’t ‘supposed to’ be perfect.
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The second of two classic installments of this podcast that we’re posting on the topic of better conversations. Last week, we heard about the method called 'street epistemology'. This time, we're hearing about 'deep canvassing', used by our guest David Fleischer of the Los Angeles LGBT Center to change votes.
We hope it’ll help you think about how to engage with people more productively, and enable some good interpersonal outcomes!
Note: This is an edit comprised of TWO separate conversations with David, which originally appeared in episodes 423 and 429.
In a reprise of this classic conversation with Anthony Magnabosco, we talk about a conversational tool which can change the course - and productivity - of those most difficult exchanges, the ones between people who disagree on fundamental things in life. Anthony is an advocate of 'street epistemology', and it could be a very useful idea in these divided times.
This is the first of two 'classic' episodes we're posting on the topic of better conversations. We hope it'll help you think about how to engage with people more productively, and enable some good interpersonal outcomes.
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Bart gives a stream-of-consciousness update from under his rock, including stark thoughts about the recent attempted suicide of a close friend, an unexpected gift from another, and an attempt to recenter around gratefulness.
The classic article on chess Bart mentions (circa 1992) can be found at https://vault.si.com/vault/1992/03/02/the-child-is-the-master-playing-a-young-chess-prodigy-rekindled-the-authors-love-for-the-game
Bart gives a stream-of-consciousness update from under his rock, including stark thoughts about the recent attempted suicide of a close friend, an unexpected gift from another, and an attempt to recenter around gratefulness.
The classic article on chess Bart mentions (circa 1992) can be found at https://vault.si.com/vault/1992/03/02/the-child-is-the-master-playing-a-young-chess-prodigy-rekindled-the-authors-love-for-the-game
This week we air Bart's interview on the podcast Re-Enchantment with host Daniel Shkolnik. We don't do this often, but we liked this interview a lot, and Daniel is a guy committed to the ideas we share so passionately.
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This week we air Bart's interview on the podcast Re-Enchantment with host Daniel Shkolnik. We don't do this often, but we liked this interview a lot, and Daniel is a guy committed to the ideas we share so passionately.
Subscribe to Re-Enchantment wherever you listen to podcasts, and at ReEnchantmentPod.com.
Bart and John attempt to answer a listener question whose family, despite practically compatible values, insists on framing everything with respect to their religious beliefs. This is causing contentious conversations, and the listener wants to know how to handle it.
John Engle, known for his work with Haiti Partners, joins Bart to answer the question, "What have you learned from your work in Haiti that may be relevant to the tough times we're going through here in the United States this year?"
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Bill Deresiewicz is an award-winning essayist and critic who has written a new book. The book warns that the art we all love - music, books, films and much more - is in jeopardy. Based on his own deep research and interviews with artists and content creators, Bill is worried that the digital economy isn't supporting that art that sustains our souls, and that we are in the middle of a big transformation.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Bill talks about art as a secular religion, "humanities-based spirituality", the "Darwinian attention derby", the mythology of the artist as lazy or entitled, the discouragement many creators face against pursuing their art, the small percentage of artists who are making a true living at it, the death of the arts as a harbinger of a larger death, of dignified work and the middle class, how the big tech platforms make money from artists' creations, how fixing this problem could help address some of our other problems like a lack of diversity and representation, and the idea that we should feel a responsibility to content creators.
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A scandal for the ages has emerged about of one of the most prominent evangelical Christian leaders of the Trump era. In this episode, Bart and John attempt to answer the question, "What would make a humanistic response to the situation with the Falwells?"
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Mega is an improvised satire from the staff of a fictional mega church, hosted by Holly Laurent and Greg Hess.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Holly and Greg talk about satirizing American Christianity, what makes it funny, and the mental gymnastics it takes to twist Jesus into a capitalist. But it doesn't take long before they're also talking - very personally - about being haunted by the evangelicalism of childhood, how to live authentically, recovery from trauma, undoing some of the Christian cultural lessons about sexuality after you're married, marriage itself and more.
Listen to the Mega podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mega/id1425141892 or wherever you get your podcasts.
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In this Part 2 with Mark Oppenheimer, recorded later after both had listened back to their first conversation, Mark and Bart return to take the earlier convo in a practical direction.
Including: Facebook versus Letter to the Editor, steel-manning, don’t act in ways you wouldn’t let your kids act, diversity including identity and ideology, features of the 'new puritanism', the importance of hearing from the young and old, keeping kids off social media, thoughts on how people with privilege should engage with people from oppressed groups, allowing people to care about different things, progress can be made with compassion for what is lost in the process, how sometimes people trying to change the world are cruel to those right next to them, how we may be living in the most humorless time in American history, and the importance of being committed to something.
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A recent blog post by Esther Perel caught Bart Campolo's eye. In this brief, bonus episode, Bart reads his unauthorized edit of Perel's piece, which is about what we've lost in the pandemic, and how to cultivate collective resilience and 'tragic optimism'.
Perel's original essay can be found at:
https://estherperel.com/blog/anticipatory-grief?fbclid=IwAR3rD-qfdtNrUdQPgehl2f6156YJOEMTNooRjgZIaOcNtrUw1D5mnXuXxPM
Mark Oppenheimer is a friend of this podcast who is a signatory to a recent open letter published by Harper's Magazine, in praise of open debate and tolerance for differing opinions, and against some aspects of 'cancel culture', dogmatism and censoriousness.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Mark chats about why he signed the letter, the limits and boundaries of free speech, the likeliest paths to progress, the effects of added scrutiny on writers at present and some of the reasons he thinks liberals have gotten less 'liberal'. It's just Part 1, so stay tuned for a followup! This topic is part of our focus on better conversations.
Read the letter at:
https://harpers.org/a-letter-on-justice-and-open-debate/
Read Ross Douthat's 10 theses on cancel culture at:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/opinion/cancel-culture-.html
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"Hi Bart, I know in your podcast you talk a lot about people in 'suddenly interfaith' marriages, where one is a believer and the other has since left, and obviously there are obstacles, but what I want to know is: Does anything work? Is intimacy possible between people of radically different worldviews?"
Bart's perspective: Sometimes. And there are some things that make it harder and other things that make it easier.
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"Hi Bart, I know in your podcast you talk a lot about people in 'suddenly interfaith' marriages, where one is a believer and the other has since left, and obviously there are obstacles, but what I want to know is: Does anything work? Is intimacy possible between people of radically different worldviews?"
Bart's perspective: Sometimes. And there are some things that make it harder and other things that make it easier.
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Leah Helbling is a close friend of Humanize Me and a member of the team at the humanist community Cincinnati Caravan with Bart Campolo.
In this episode, the two chat about Leah's instinct to attempt to 'deconvert' those who are questioning their faith, and Bart's belief that many people are better off staying where they are. The friendly disagreement started when Bart answered a question in Episode 504 from a listener called Craig who found himself in that position.
Along the way, the conversation addresses some of the harm done by religion, Leah's sense of shame in her past as an evangelical woman, the kinds of Christianity available and how different they are from each other, how the length of time since deconversion can affect one's approach, the merits or otherwise of 'accommodating' Christianity, the idea that there is one best way to live or to be, to meddle or not to meddle, the difference between meddling and listening, and in what circumstances someone can know what's in somebody else's best interests.
Listen to Leah's own podcast, Women Beyond Faith, on Stitcher.
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In this solo episode, Bart talks about seeing the current wave of protest and uprising - the most significant moment ever for the Black Lives Matter movement - in the context of collective trauma.
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In this solo episode, Bart talks about seeing the current wave of protest and uprising - the most significant moment ever for the Black Lives Matter movement - in the context of collective trauma.
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After talking a bit about insomnia, shaking hands with a local dog owner and dating in the pandemic, we turn to a voicemail asking Bart's opinion of anti-natalism, the philosophical position that ascribes a negative value to having babies.
In response, Bart takes an approach which doesn't attempt to engage too much with the rational arguments of anti-natalism, saying that we should have an anti-natalist on the podcast to talk to. Instead, we talk about the values of humanity being 'baked in', one of them being reproduction, and the fact that we tend to value contradicting things, leading to optimal ethics and situational ethics.
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Where did our popular ideas of heaven and hell come from? Did Jesus teach a doctrine of eternal torture? How did our ideas of the afterlife evolve?
Bart Ehrman is the author of over 30 books, including six New York Times bestselling books explaining critical biblical scholarship to a popular audience.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Ehrman talks about the difference between agnosticism and atheism and why he considers himself both, why the words translated 'hell' don't mean what we think they do, how Jesus talked of 'eternal life', the early church theology of heaven and hell, how Jews of the 1st century understood bodily resurrection, the origin of the devil, our ideas of the afterlife and cosmic justice, whether we should try to deconvert people who are wavering in their faith, and more.
Pick up his new book, Heaven and Hell, at https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Heaven-and-Hell/Bart-D-Ehrman/9781501136733. Have a look at the Bart Ehrman Blog at https://ehrmanblog.org.
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"Hey Bart. As I grew up, prayer was touted as the answer to everything. Now with the shutdowns and loss associated with COVID-19, I still miss the feeling I had when I could 'give it all to Jesus.' I suppose this is part of taking back control of my own life and not depending on a higher, all-knowing power to save me all the time. But I still feel feel like I’ve lost something very powerful, if only in my own mind. Any ideas of how to move beyond this? Is it just a grieving process that I need to go through?" - Jonathan
"Hi Bart. I am concerned. During this strange and surreal time (I work in a hospital in the UK), I am finding myself more and more 'sucked in' to Christianity and have been attending Church services regularly. I do not want to be Christian but I am finding much support and solace within their boundaries and I can feel myself submitting to their ways!!" - Debbie
In this episode, we attempt an answer to both these (related) questions and give a little preview of the next one. Includes an update on life during the pandemic.
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"Hey Bart. As I grew up, prayer was touted as the answer to everything. Now with the shutdowns and loss associated with COVID-19, I still miss the feeling I had when I could 'give it all to Jesus.' I suppose this is part of taking back control of my own life and not depending on a higher, all-knowing power to save me all the time. But I still feel feel like I’ve lost something very powerful, if only in my own mind. Any ideas of how to move beyond this? Is it just a grieving process that I need to go through?" - Jonathan
"Hi Bart. I am concerned. During this strange and surreal time (I work in a hospital in the UK), I am finding myself more and more 'sucked in' to Christianity and have been attending Church services regularly. I do not want to be Christian but I am finding much support and solace within their boundaries and I can feel myself submitting to their ways!!" - Debbie
In this episode, we attempt an answer to both these (related) questions and give a little preview of the next one. Includes an update on life during the pandemic.
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Bart reflects on two recent episodes that have generated the most mail ever for this podcast, and offers some thoughts on how to improve relationships during this extended lockdown.
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Bart reflects on two recent episodes that have generated the most mail ever for this podcast, and offers some thoughts on how to improve relationships during this extended lockdown.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
It's been a hard week for Bart! Episode 509 of this podcast featured his conversation with Michael Dowd, a fellow 'apocalyoptimist' who shares Bart's belief that a great societal collapse is inevitable, and that the current pandemic represents the beginning of a difficult time for humanity.
Bart's son Roman Campolo listened, and hated the episode. Not only did Roman have strong criticisms of Dowd, collapse-thinking, and the tone and content of the conversation itself, but he feels that Bart is wasting his unique skill set and intellect on apocalyptic thinking at a time when he could be applying himself to this moment more effectively.
In this episode, Roman lets Bart have it, firing on all cylinders. We thought about some different titles for this episode:
"Roman v Bart"
"An on-mic intervention"
"About last week..."
"A podcast massacre"
"Roman on a rampage"
"Bart gets taken to the woodshed"
"Roman takes no prisoners"
Ultimately, Bart acknowledges the validity of much of the criticism, and admits to feeling some paralysis in the face of the pandemic. He believes his mission is to offer strength and encouragement in a time of crisis, and to be a source of hope. The response to last week's episode - from Roman, producer John Wright and others - is a call to be better than we were last week.
As Bart says in the intro, if you're not comfortable with verbal conflict, or don't want to hear a robust argument right now, you may want to skip to the one-hour mark and listen through to the end from there. But if you kinda want to hear a good old-fashioned brawl, this is your episode!
Roman also features heavily through Bart’s story of his first psychedelic experience. Hear it at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe. And our deepest thanks for your continued - and even increased - support over there; it means a lot.
Listen to Roman The Cartoon's music on Spotify.
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Three years ago to the week, Michael Dowd talked with Bart on this podcast about our modern way of life, sustainability and the future of civilization. When the coronavirus pandemic hit, Bart could think of nobody he wanted to talk to about it more than Michael, so he's back!
In this conversation, Bart and Michael talk about their shared sense that the pandemic will be followed by an economic recession or even depression, and that it signals the beginning of the end of our current way of life. Michael talks about the industrial world's reliance on the 'religion' of growth-based progress, the ecological fallacy being committed, the illusion of control we have, the inevitability of collapse, the stages of grief in response, and his optimism about what lies beyond it all.
Michael's website can be found at PostDoom.com.
On Patreon this week, hear Bart's story of his first psychedelic experience after taking LSD! It's at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Three years ago to the week, Michael Dowd talked with Bart on this podcast about our modern way of life, sustainability and the future of civilization. When the coronavirus pandemic hit, Bart could think of nobody he wanted to talk to about it more than Michael, so he's back!
In this conversation, Bart and Michael talk about their shared sense that the pandemic will be followed by an economic recession or even depression, and that it signals the beginning of the end of our current way of life. Michael talks about the industrial world's reliance on the 'religion' of growth-based progress, the ecological fallacy being committed, the illusion of control we have, the inevitability of collapse, the stages of grief in response, and his optimism about what lies beyond it all.
Michael's website can be found at PostDoom.com.
On Patreon this week, hear Bart's story of his first psychedelic experience after taking LSD! It's at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Bart and John are socially distancing, like most of America. What does that mean for our all-important human connections? In this episode, Bart talks about his humanist community, Caravan in Cincinnati, and how they're handling the crisis. Bart emphasizes the importance of listening to each other, reaching out, asking how people are doing and genuinely hearing the answer, and more.
Here's some stuff we've been reading lately....
On potential silver linings:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/19/coronavirus-effect-economy-life-society-analysis-covid-135579
On watching movies together remotely:
https://apple.news/AwpiLmYYwRC-lDtTh8hyafw
An editorial by Alain de Button:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-camus-plague.html
A reminder for materialists to cultivate wonder:
https://blendle.com/i/time/string-theorist-brian-greene-wants-to-help-you-understand-the-cold-cruel-universe/bnl-time-20200222-f23c2127b01?sharer=eyJ2ZXJzaW9uIjoiMSIsInVpZCI6ImJhcnRjYW1wb2xvIiwiaXRlbV9pZCI6ImJubC10aW1lLTIwMjAwMjIyLWYyM2MyMTI3YjAxIn0%3D
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Bart and John are socially distancing, like most of America. What does that mean for our all-important human connections? In this episode, Bart talks about his humanist community, Caravan in Cincinnati, and how they're handling the crisis. Bart emphasizes the importance of listening to each other, reaching out, asking how people are doing and genuinely hearing the answer, and more.
Here's some stuff we've been reading lately....
On potential silver linings:
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/03/19/coronavirus-effect-economy-life-society-analysis-covid-135579
On watching movies together remotely:
https://apple.news/AwpiLmYYwRC-lDtTh8hyafw
An editorial by Alain de Button:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-camus-plague.html
A reminder for materialists to cultivate wonder:
https://blendle.com/i/time/string-theorist-brian-greene-wants-to-help-you-understand-the-cold-cruel-universe/bnl-time-20200222-f23c2127b01?sharer=eyJ2ZXJzaW9uIjoiMSIsInVpZCI6ImJhcnRjYW1wb2xvIiwiaXRlbV9pZCI6ImJubC10aW1lLTIwMjAwMjIyLWYyM2MyMTI3YjAxIn0%3D
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It was a bad week to be away. But while Bart Campolo was gone on a family trip, the world changed. After coming back, Bart shares his thoughts about the emerging global crisis being caused by COVID-19.
Quick note: We briefly talk about our worst fears for our modern way of life, including Bart's long-held belief that the economy is unsustainable and could collapse into an economic depression. If you don't want to hear negative thoughts right now, and want to go straight to the more hopeful and practical stuff, skip at 9:42 and resume at 14:35.
Some ideas: Band together. Who’s in your ‘in-person’ circle? Learn how to ‘touch’ people remotely. Identify your trusted news sources and use them to verify other information. Sync up and watch movies and shows together remotely (3-2-1-PLAY). Develop good routines. Listen to next week for some thoughts on at-a-distance friendship.
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On this Q&A episode of the podcast, we take 3 questions in a row!
Question 1 is about why Bart decided to tell his parents he wasn't a Christian anymore at the time he did, and how the calculation would have been different if he wasn't a 'professional Christian'. Questions 2 is about starting humanist communities like Caravan in Cincinnati. Bart talks about Caravan and how one may go about using it as a template for new communities. Question 3 is about the impulse to avoid hanging with old friends one doesn't see much anymore, who you suspect may want to change your mind and get you back into your old life.
Got a question of your own for future episodes? Leave it easily, anonymously if you like, and without having to talk to someone, by calling the 'Q' Line: (424) 291-2092.
Bonus content: a new episode of Why It Matters is available on our Patreon page now! Check it out at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Greg Asbed is a human rights strategist developing a new model—worker-driven social responsibility (WSR) for improving conditions for low-wage workers within the twenty-first-century labor market.
In this wide-ranging conversation with Bart Campolo, Greg talks about his background, his life and how he got here. Greg became a MacArthur Fellow in 2017. For the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights, visit https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/.
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Bart takes a call from a questioning Christian looking for advice on who and what to listen to. It's a reminder that our listeners aren't all in the same place on their religious journey, and Bart shares some thoughts on the many paths ahead.
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Bart takes a call from a questioning Christian looking for advice on who and what to listen to. It's a reminder that our listeners aren't all in the same place on their religious journey, and Bart shares some thoughts on the many paths ahead.
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In previous episodes of this podcast, we've established that rituals are important. But why? And how is it connected to our own nature, and the nature around us? Sasha Sagan has written a book all about the subject. It would be hard to imagine a more 'Humanize Me' book, and by such a gifted communicator!
In this conversation, Bart Campolo talks with Sasha about the kinds of rituals we have, how they operate for secular people, encouraging deeper thinking about why we mark the occasions we do, and how to create good conversations around them.
Sasha Sagan is a writer and speaker living in Boston. She shares another feature with Bart: a famous dad. Carl Sagan, the popular cosmologist and science communicator, was a huge influence in Sasha's life, and they talk about him near the end of their conversation. Her book, 'For Small Creatures Such as We', can be found on Amazon.
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In previous episodes of this podcast, we've established that rituals are important. But why? And how is it connected to our own nature, and the nature around us? Sasha Sagan has written a book all about the subject. It would be hard to imagine a more 'Humanize Me' book, and by such a gifted communicator!
In this conversation, Bart Campolo talks with Sasha about the kinds of rituals we have, how they operate for secular people, encouraging deeper thinking about why we mark the occasions we do, and how to create good conversations around them.
Sasha Sagan is a writer and speaker living in Boston. She shares another feature with Bart: a famous dad. Carl Sagan, the popular cosmologist and science communicator, was a huge influence in Sasha's life, and they talk about him near the end of their conversation. Her book, 'For Small Creatures Such as We', can be found on Amazon.
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Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by John Wright at JuxMedia.com.
Bart Campolo has been a counselor in one context or another for many decades. As listeners to this podcast, we invite you to submit your questions! Are you looking for advice about a relationship in your life? Got a friend in a predicament? Want to know how to handle a situation? Call us at the number on our site - BartCampolo.org/HumanizeMe - or write your message at BartCampolo.org/Contact.
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'How are you not freaking out?' is the question Gabe asks in one of the two songs we play in this inaugural episode of 2020. Gabe is an artist, musician, poet and more. His C5 spinal injury, incurred when he was 15 years old, left him paralyzed from the armpits down. What more could there be to freak out about? In this conversation, Bart talks with Gabe about finding a room of one's own in a hostile world, his art including an electronic rock opera telling the story of his life, sexuality and intimacy as a disabled person, music as therapy, Gabe's agnosticism about God and more.
Gabe's music can be found on Spotify under his stage name Freaque. He's also on YouTube.
Humanize Me trivia: Gabe's father Matthew was our guest in Episode 337.
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It's an end-of-the-year podcast from Bart Campolo, who answers a question from a listener called John.
John wants to know whether faith (of a sort) can still be useful for a post-Christian, whether believing something without evidence can sometimes have its benefits. Bart answers with a riff on the difference between optimism and hope, and thinks about its applicability to the new decade we're going into this week.
Happy New Year to all our listeners, and especially to our supporters on Patreon! We couldn't do it without you. See you in 2020!
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Emma Bloomfield researches the intersection of science and religious rhetoric, particularly around issues of climate change, human origins and the body.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Emma talks about how Christians tend to think differently about science and the environment, the three ‘types’ of religious climate skeptic (separators, bargainers and harmonizers), the similarities and differences between creationists and climate change skeptics, how language matters, how ideological 'purity' and orthodoxy can push people away from contributing to positive change, the importance of storytelling, and why she feels hopeful after her conversations with the groups she wrote about.
Emma's book, Communication Strategies for Engaging Climate Skeptics: Religion and the Environment, is available from Amazon.
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Thanksgiving has been and gone, and now we're into a whole month of Christmas in America. How does one navigate a time that can be very tricky for those who have deconverted from faith? As one listener put it in our Facebook Group: "Am I the only one who feels like Jesus is my ex and all the decorations just remind me of our ****ed up relationship?" It turns out there's a lot of that kind of painfulness at this time of year!
In this Q&A episode of our podcast, Bart Campolo tries to answer the following questions:
"My wife still believes. She is very bothered that I no longer believe. Advice on how to handle the tension? How much should I go along, for example, going to Christmas Eve service to keep her happy while still being true to myself?"
"My siblings and mom don't do presents anymore, which is awesome. My biggest Christmas budget item is charity. My wife though, thinks presents are important and for the most part she handles her big family and that's fine with me. But, as you can guess, it gets a little dicey between the two of us. So far, I'm just cutting back a little and seeing how it goes. Any suggestions?"
"I’ve recently de-converted, but I am still influenced by spiritual holiday trappings. What do you recommend?"
Got any questions of your own? Send them to us at BartCampolo.org/Contact or call the 'Q' Line at (424) 291-2092!
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John Tucker used to be a literalist Christian, but says he has now rejected the 'belief paradigm' to move beyond either accepting or rejecting the claims of religion.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, John lays out how he sees truth now, and says that he thinks religious claims should be expressed only as catch-22s. An example of a catch-22: "The only acceptable evidence for religious belief is evidence that is unacceptable." Confused by this, Bart explores what John means by it.
Along the way, John and Bart talk about how works of fiction can be 'mined' for profound insight, and that Christianity can be too, how there are differences between pre- and post-Enlightenment thinking, how we are stuck in the 'correspondence theory of truth', how virulent forms of religion can be 'tamed' and used beneficially, how John was devastated when he first realized that Adam and Eve were not historical figures, the future of Christianity and how following generations will come to relate to it, why John refutes the context of a question like, 'Did Jesus rise from the dead?', the philosophy of how words are used, how Bart can't figure out why John doesn't just become a straight-up humanist like him, and an analogy about stained glass windows.
John's book on these topics, Zero Theology, can be found on Amazon.
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John Tucker used to be a literalist Christian, but says he has now rejected the 'belief paradigm' to move beyond either accepting or rejecting the claims of religion.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, John lays out how he sees truth now, and says that he thinks religious claims should be expressed only as catch-22s. An example of a catch-22: "The only acceptable evidence for religious belief is evidence that is unacceptable." Confused by this, Bart explores what John means by it.
Along the way, John and Bart talk about how works of fiction can be 'mined' for profound insight, and that Christianity can be too, how there are differences between pre- and post-Enlightenment thinking, how we are stuck in the 'correspondence theory of truth', how virulent forms of religion can be 'tamed' and used beneficially, how John was devastated when he first realized that Adam and Eve were not historical figures, the future of Christianity and how following generations will come to relate to it, why John refutes the context of a question like, 'Did Jesus rise from the dead?', the philosophy of how words are used, how Bart can't figure out why John doesn't just become a straight-up humanist like him, and an analogy about stained glass windows.
John's book on these topics, Zero Theology, can be found on Amazon.
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It's a Q&A episode! And this week, the question is:
"Hey Bart, you humanists seem to really love science, so I’m wondering... do you love science fiction too? If so, what do you love and why?" - Marianne
Bart Campolo talks with producer John Wright about sci-fi and the thoughts it can provoke. In the process, he strongly recommends a book that is controversial, poorly-written and probably wrong, and which made him consider the benefits of fascism.
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It's a Q&A episode! And this week, the question is:
"Hey Bart, you humanists seem to really love science, so I’m wondering... do you love science fiction too? If so, what do you love and why?" - Marianne
Bart Campolo talks with producer John Wright about sci-fi and the thoughts it can provoke. In the process, he strongly recommends a book that is controversial, poorly-written and probably wrong, and which made him consider the benefits of fascism.
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Yasmine Mohammed wore the hijab from the age of 9, but never felt comfortable as a Muslim. Now, having been out of the faith for many years, she's able to reflect on her remarkable life, on the Islamic world and on religious indoctrination in general.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Yasmine talks about the differences between Islam and Christianity, the powerful, debilitating effect she felt of being covered from head to toe, how easy it is to indoctrinate children, how western governments protect subjugation out of cultural sensitivity, how western liberals protect abusive behavior, how corporations are demonetizing her and others like her, and how humanist values should pertain to Islam.
Yasmine's book, Unveiled, can be found on Amazon.
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The question being asked this week:
"Hey Bart, I listened to a speech by Attorney General William Barr at Notre Dame University, in which he denounced ‘militant secularists’ and said they were trying to destroy the ‘traditional moral order’. Does this worry you as much as it does me?"
Bart Campolo sits down with John Wright to answer this question, and - spoiler - it's a resounding 'Yes.' Not only did Barr set out to make the ludicrous claims about secularists that he did, but Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promoted his own speech on the United States State Department website with the headline, "Being a Christian Leader." Bart sees this as a direct response to the fire under which Trump finds himself, a rallying of the base, and shares some thoughts about how secular people can articulate their own positive values in a powerful refutation of this demonization.
Mentioned at the end: The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos.
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The question being asked this week:
"Hey Bart, I listened to a speech by Attorney General William Barr at Notre Dame University, in which he denounced ‘militant secularists’ and said they were trying to destroy the ‘traditional moral order’. Does this worry you as much as it does me?"
Bart Campolo sits down with John Wright to answer this question, and - spoiler - it's a resounding 'Yes.' Not only did Barr set out to make the ludicrous claims about secularists that he did, but Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promoted his own speech on the United States State Department website with the headline, "Being a Christian Leader." Bart sees this as a direct response to the fire under which Trump finds himself, a rallying of the base, and shares some thoughts about how secular people can articulate their own positive values in a powerful refutation of this demonization.
Mentioned at the end: The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos.
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Josh "Phantom" Strider is an Australian YouTuber known for his commentary on cartoons. He's also an avid listener of the Humanize Me podcast and one of our supporters on Patreon!
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Josh talks about the secularism of Disney, the messages of VeggieTales, the importance of cartoons for those like him on the autism spectrum, the business model of YouTube, Hank Green and the online content ecosystem.
Check out Josh's YouTube channel on YouTube under PhantomStrider at youtube.com/user/phantomstrider8.
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A solo podcast by Bart Campolo with poetry, songs and nepotism.
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How do we decide whether it's good or bad to intervene in global warming or growing inequality? Or how to treat our dog? Phil Zuckerman has written a new book giving a foundational framework for secular - nonreligious - morality.
In this conversation Phil talks with Bart Campolo about the four reasons you can't get morality from God, and the ways to build a secular ethic that, he thinks, is a better one. They discuss the problems with a God-based morality, the Euthyphro Dilemma and the nature of morality itself. They get into a debate about how objective morality is, and talk about how to get an 'ought' from an 'is'. And, hopefully, they'll leave you with the idea that the basis for how unbelievers act in the world is not grounded on nothing.
Phil Zuckerman's new book, What It Means to Be Moral: Why Religion Is Not Necessary for Living an Ethical Life, can be found here:
https://www.counterpointpress.com/dd-product/what-it-means-to-be-moral/
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In Episode 423 of this podcast, David Fleischer talked with Bart Campolo about changing minds with the methodology of 'deep canvassing.'
In this episode, David returns! He and Bart talk about the next election, Trump as the opposite of loving and humanist, how to encourage people to vote without shaming them about not voting last time, how the lessons of deep canvassing relate to the conversations people are having about faith in God, and more.
Part I of our chat with David can be found at https://bartcampolo.org/2019/07/423.
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In Episode 423 of this podcast, David Fleischer talked with Bart Campolo about changing minds with the methodology of 'deep canvassing.'
In this episode, David returns! He and Bart talk about the next election, Trump as the opposite of loving and humanist, how to encourage people to vote without shaming them about not voting last time, how the lessons of deep canvassing relate to the conversations people are having about faith in God, and more.
Part I of our chat with David can be found at https://bartcampolo.org/2019/07/423.
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In this episode of Humanize Me, Bart Campolo and John Wright talk about two recent deconversions from Christianity and a recent article by Faith Hill in The Atlantic which looks at the trajectory of secular 'churches' like Sunday Assembly and analyzes their declining numbers.
Joshua Harris's well-known 1997 Christian book, I Kissed Dating Goodbye, shaped the relationships and sexual ethics of many of the young people who read it. In recent years, Harris has apologized for the impact of his book, which he now regards as largely negative. Earlier this summer, it emerged that Harris has separated from his wife and no longer considers himself a Christian.
Marty Sampson was a worship leader and singer-songwriter with Hillsong United, a band born at Hillsong church in Sydney that routinely topped the Christian charts worldwide. He recently wrote an Instagram post announcing the deconstruction of his faith.
Further reading:
Secular churches rethink their sales pitch:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/secular-churches-rethink-their-sales-pitch/594109/
Joshua Harris separates from wife, leaves Christianity:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/29/joshua-harris-i-kissed-dating-goodbye-i-am-not-christian/1857934001/
Marty Sampson announces lost faith:
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/08/12/famed-christian-songwriter-renounces-religion-im-genuinely-losing-my-faith/
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Gayle Jordan is the Executive Director of the nonprofit organization Recovering from Religion, which connects people with support on their journeys out of religious faith.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Gayle talks about her own deconversion story, the work of her organization, the helpline it operates, the common issues people face after losing or leaving faith, and encouraging people to get involved.
Recovering from Religion can be found at RecoveringfromReligion.org. The helpline is 844-368-2848. (Humanize Me trivia: Gayle's daughter was our guest on Episode 315!)
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In this episode, Bart Campolo talks about the most meaningful or humanizing episodes of other podcasts. It's 20 minutes of thoughtful recommendations! Here are the individual episodes we recommend most highly. To hear why they're recommended, listen to the episode! Enjoy.
Hidden Brain: Creating God and The Vegetable Lamb
RadioLab: From Tree to Shining Tree
WTF with Marc Maron: Irwin Winkler
The Daily: The Legacy of Rachel Held Evans
On Being: Rebecca Solnit and Alain de Botton
The Moth: Leaping Forward
Making Sense with Sam Harris: Conscious
This American Life: Tell Me I'm Fat
Song Exploder: St. Vincent - New York
TED Radio Hour: How We Love
Malcolm Gladwell: The Hug Heard Round the World
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Not every family allows you to listen in on their personal conversations. But in this episode, Bart Campolo sits down with his son Roman where they talk about fathers and sons, Bart's relationship with his dad Tony, competitiveness, choosing diplomacy over conflict, Bart's self-identity as a guy who doesn't put his best effort into succeeding, and the question of whether changing situations is easier than changing your resilience to them.
There's a Part 2 to this conversation! Find it on Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
Roman's music can be found on Spotify and he's worth following on Instagram too. Search for 'Roman The Cartoon' on both. For the conversation between Bart and his famous dad Tony, see CampoloFilm.com!
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This classic conversation with The Friendly Atheist, Hemant Mehta, is one of the most shared episodes we've ever done. Hemant talks with Bart Campolo about squeezing more life out of our awareness of death, and making the most of the precious opportunity we have in our moments of consciousness.
Hemant's popular blog can be found at FriendlyAtheist.Patheos.com.
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Want to change someone's mind? David Fleischer, of the Los Angeles LGBT Center, has discovered more reliably than perhaps anybody else how to do it. As he puts it:
"We’re the first to reduce any form of prejudice in a measurable, long-lasting way with a relatively simple intervention: a 10 minute one-on-one conversation that we call deep canvassing."
In this episode of Humanize Me, David joins Bart Campolo for a conversation about his background story, how he started experimenting with different ways to talk to the people who voted against them on California's Proposition 8 banning gay marriage in 2008, his view that progressive people especially have an "irrational confidence in rationality", how human rapport, common ground and stories are the basis of changing minds, and how listening is at the heart of it all.
Mentioned in the podcast: This American Life episodes #555 and #584. Links here:
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/584/for-your-reconsideration
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On Episode 420, we answered a question from a listener about gaining confidence in social situations. Bart Campolo's advice centered around showing curiosity in others, and making the interactions about the other people.
But what if you don't find other people interesting? What if you're not curious at all about the people in these social settings? How should one cultivate such curiosity? In this episode, Bart has lots of thoughts in a row.
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Amber Scorah was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. She tells the story of her 'deconversion' in her book, 'Leaving the Witness: Exiting a Religion and Finding a Life', available on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Leaving-Witness-Exiting-Religion-Finding/dp/0735222541
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Amber talks about what it was like to believe fully, what it's like to disbelieve now, how her relationships were affected, the death of her young son Karl on his first day in childcare, her views on life now, and much more.
Amber is a writer in Brooklyn. Her writing has appeared in the New York Times, USA Today, Gothamist, and Believer magazine. Amber became a parental leave advocate after the loss of her son, and was named one of the 100 most influential people in Brooklyn culture by Brooklyn Magazine. She is fluent in Mandarin Chinese.
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This question is one about confidence:
"I love the stuff you guys are doing about friendship, but I think it assumes a level of confidence in social situations that I don’t feel. How do I generate the kind of confidence that will enable me to initiate conversations or hold my own in social settings?"
Bart has no fast-track to universal confidence to offer, but in this episode he shares a multi-point strategy that will give you a solid footing in social situations and lead to higher confidence.
Takeaways: Set a goal for the conversation that is not impressing the other person; show up with questions to ask in hand, listen to the answers; stay focused on the other person. Be genuinely curious; asking the questions puts you in control; show humility and tell someone know when they tell you things you didn’t know, or are interested in; be aware of your body language, avoid unconfident movements; as a socially generous person, you can play a connecting role for others you’ve talked to.
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When a tragedy happens, people tend to run from the pain. Dr. Kate Wiebe runs toward it. Kate is the founder and director of the Institute for Trauma and Growth, which started with a focus on faith communities and has since expanded. When a mass shooting, disaster or other tragedy strikes, Kate and her team deploy to teach leaders restorative strategies for personal and group growth.
In this episode, Bart Campolo talks with Kate about what she's learned about trauma and crises, why people don’t go to counseling, collective trauma, the bond of survivors, healing, the role of faith and (even secular) spirituality, being heard, resiliency and more.
She is a self-described sherpa guiding people into the valley of death, and believes that people can "prepare for the kind of person they want to be in an emergency." She says that our bodies are "incessant truth tellers" which keep the score. That for some people, circumstances don't affect their quality of life one way or the other, but for others, they're important. And her and Bart reaffirm the importance of communities that can come up with creative responses to tragedy together.
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On this week's episode of Humanize Me, Bart Campolo answers this question:
"I just read an article saying that, like me, the average American has just one close friend, and 1 in 4 of us have none at all. I want to fight the 'loneliness epidemic' and have decided to make a really big effort to seek out more meaningful connections. Over the years, I've been letting my average friendships naturally die in order to concentrate on finding people with whom I more deeply connect, but potential soulmates are hard to find. Where do I find new close friends?"
Takeaways: Some places, some people, some periods of time, lend themselves better than others to making friends; don't let 'average friendships' die but 'frack' them for deeper connections; the best friendships are often forged with average people by those with the skills to do it; join groups; be bold and strike early while the stakes are low.
All eight sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith, are now available to Patreon supporters (become one easily) at BartCampolo.org/Campolo-Sessions.
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“I’m in no hurry to exit this world. I love this world, I love life, I love people, I love community, I love humanity, I love conversations, I love sex, I love all the things that make life good. I love a good cigar, I love to have my bourbon, I love a good meal, I love seeing a sunset at the ocean.” - Dave Warnock on Humanize Me
Dave Warnock is a former pastor turned humanist who earlier this year was diagnosed with ALS. In response to his diagnosis, a community of secular people rallied around Dave, and they believe his story and attitude is an inspiration. We agree!
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Dave talks about his life in the evangelical subculture, his deconversion from faith at 55 years old, the end of his marriage, discovering himself independently for the first time, finding a new community, getting a terminal diagnosis, death with dignity and the 'final exit', and how his illness has focused his mind on what's truly important.
A website about Dave can be found at EveryonesAgnostic.com/Dave.html (and check out the rest of the Everyone's Agnostic site too!).
On Patreon this week: The final of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe. And while you're at it, check out the rest of our Patreon page! It's had a revamp and now includes the first episode of 'Why It Matters', where you can hear about how this podcast makes a difference in peoples' lives and listen to some insider info and discussion.
Also this week: Bart was speaking at Eastlake Church on Sunday on the topic 'Character Matters' and you can watch it all at Vimeo.com/337379892.
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Why are we meanest to those we're closest to? 'Facebook Bob' asks whether we're monsters for this tendency, or whether we simply don't think there'll be any significant consequences for lashing out. Bart Campolo and John Wright talk about it, and the need for greater self-awareness.
On Patreon this week: The 6th of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Way back in April 2017, Hank Green joined us on the podcast. But chances are, many of you who listen in 2019 have never heard it! On this week's episode, Bart Campolo introduces that conversation, in which he and Hank talk about individuals versus groups, how to get on the same page with people in your life, how to make the most of your talents and opportunities, and how to humanize the internet.
Hank Green is a web content producer, vlogger, and now author. His new book, out now, is called An Absolutely Remarkable Thing.
On Patreon this week: The 5th of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Way back in April 2017, Hank Green joined us on the podcast. But chances are, many of you who listen in 2019 have never heard it! On this week's episode, Bart Campolo introduces that conversation, in which he and Hank talk about individuals versus groups, how to get on the same page with people in your life, how to make the most of your talents and opportunities, and how to humanize the internet.
Hank Green is a web content producer, vlogger, and now author. His new book, out now, is called An Absolutely Remarkable Thing.
On Patreon this week: The 5th of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Where was Bart last week, why didn't he answer anyone's emails or calls, and why didn't we release a new episode of the podcast? That's what producer John Wright demands to know at the start of this week's Q&A episode. In response, Bart lets us in on a week of private grief, and some of the thoughts that accompany it.
We finish the episode with a 10-minute guided meditation / thought exercise with the aim of helping us love others more effectively.
Takeaways: Some of life's experiences arrive with a 'gravity' that makes them especially hard, and especially disruptive. It really is true that you never know what people are going through, and so, loving people requires understanding them and making truly effective interventions. Follow the Platinum Rule!
On Patreon this week: The 4th of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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A listener question prompts Bart Campolo to give some advice about how to open up good conversations with your children about sex and relationships.
Our listener is the mother of a 12 year-old girl, who, it is discovered, is interested in a boy at school. The girl's father is panicking and concerned while the mother simply wants to ask how to keep her daughter out of trouble.
Takeaways: Rather than trying to shut their sexuality down, ask good questions about the kinds of relationships they would like to have, what they want and how you can play a role in shaping it.
On Patreon this week: The second of 8 sessions of long-form conversation between Bart and his famous evangelical father, Tony Campolo, recorded for the film Leaving My Father's Faith (available on Amazon). Get the new session at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe.
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Sex expert and therapist Dr. Marty Klein has a lot to say about pornography. In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Marty talks about porn and relationships, how people are ultimately responsible for the narrative they're telling themselves, the importance of novelty in human sexuality, the 'contracts' people have in relationships, how people respond to the aging process, and how to take the first step in addressing conflict over pornography.
Marty has been a certified sex therapist for over 35 years and is a popular media figure and speaker. His book on the subject, His Porn, Her Pain, is so good that Bart has read it twice. Get it here. This is the first in a series of episodes about building better relationships.
Starting this week, for the next 8 weeks, a new audio conversation between Bart and his father Tony Campolo will be released to all supporters of this podcast on Patreon. The long-form dialogues were recorded during production for the film Leaving My Father’s Faith. This is the first time they’re being released publicly! The dialogues cover topics like the nature of belief, the bible, the basis of morality, miracles, homosexuality, humanism, the afterlife, science, abortion, religious experiences, and much more. Go to https://www.patreon.com/posts/campolo-session-25884419 to listen to the first one!
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A listener named Benjamin calls to ask why Bart feels the need to 'reinvent the wheel' with secular community-building, rather than simply join a Unitarian Universalist congregation. Benjamin says that he himself has found what he's looking for at a UU church.
Bart responds to Ben's question, saying that he loves the UU movement but it didn’t feel like a fit for him personally. Bart goes on to talk about some of the potential differences between communities.
Bart will be speaking at the Freethought Festival in Madison, Wisconsin this Saturday. Tickets and info at https://ahauwmadison.org/freethought-festival/freethought-festival
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Gretta Vosper is an ordained minister of the United Church of Canada who, as a self-professed atheist, has survived an official review from her denomination and continues to serve as the pastor of her congregation.
In this conversation, Bart Campolo talks with Gretta about the story of the last few years, why she stays in her church, what her congregation believes about a supernatural God (Gretta doesn't think it matters), whether the foundational narrative underlying the good morality Gretta is teaching is important or not, the differences between the United States and Canada and whether the social safety net has an effect on the amount of religiosity, and their shared mission.
Gretta Vosper's website can be found at GrettaVosper.ca.
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In episode 407, Bart and John attempted to answer the question of a 15 year-old listener who wondered aloud why people aren't freaking out more, and doing more, about climate change.
In the wake of that episode, Bart heard from many other listeners who didn't think we nailed it. So, this is our attempt at a redo! Let us know what you think.
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In episode 407, Bart and John attempted to answer the question of a 15 year-old listener who wondered aloud why people aren't freaking out more, and doing more, about climate change.
In the wake of that episode, Bart heard from many other listeners who didn't think we nailed it. So, this is our attempt at a redo! Let us know what you think.
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Bart Campolo is a materialist, which means that he thinks that the physical universe and its movements are the basis of all reality, and that human consciousness, morality, meaning and everything else comes from physical nature.
So you may consider it odd that Bart would have Mark Gober on his podcast, whose book argues that science has proven the existence of consciousness beyond the human body. Gober says that there is evidence for the existence of phenomena like telepathy, precognition, remote viewing and psychokinesis, and that this evidence has convinced him that consciousness transcends the human brain.
Needless to say, Bart disagrees with this, but these kinds of views are common in our society, especially among people who are not part of 'organized religion'. So, while this conversation is not a debate, it's a lively discussion of why Mark thinks these claims are valid, particularly as someone who was once a materialist like Bart.
They hit on: What scientific evidence Marks thinks show that consciousness can happen outside the brain, that it predates matter and energy; Is creating your own meaning just rationalizing?; Is consciousness fundamental to the universe, expressing itself in different forms?
Here's the article Mark cites in the American Psychologist journal by Etzel Cardeña:
https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Famp0000236
A summary of CIA experiments (noting ‘methodological problems’) on remote viewing:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500250015-6.pdf
More on 'cellular memory', the idea that some aspects of consciousness can be influenced by cells in the rest of the body:
https://www.medicaldaily.com/can-organ-transplant-change-recipients-personality-cell-memory-theory-affirms-yes-247498
The coincidences between Lincoln and Kennedy’s assassinations:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/linkin-kennedy/
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Bonus episode!
I had a very interesting conversation with my friend Ryan Meeks recently, who is the founder of Eastlake Church near Seattle. We talked about humanist content ideas, the music we should use, consciousness and more. It's available at our Patreon page at:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-episode-25209326
...for as little as a buck a month! Please support the show; it's the only way we make it happen. Enjoy!
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Bart Campolo is a materialist, which means that he thinks that the physical universe and its movements are the basis of all reality, and that human consciousness, morality, meaning and everything else comes from physical nature.
So you may consider it odd that Bart would have Mark Gober on his podcast, whose book argues that science has proven the existence of consciousness beyond the human body. Gober says that there is evidence for the existence of phenomena like telepathy, precognition, remote viewing and psychokinesis, and that this evidence has convinced him that consciousness transcends the human brain.
Needless to say, Bart disagrees with this, but these kinds of views are common in our society, especially among people who are not part of 'organized religion'. So, while this conversation is not a debate, it's a lively discussion of why Mark thinks these claims are valid, particularly as someone who was once a materialist like Bart.
They hit on: What scientific evidence Marks thinks show that consciousness can happen outside the brain, that it predates matter and energy; Is creating your own meaning just rationalizing?; Is consciousness fundamental to the universe, expressing itself in different forms?
Here's the article Mark cites in the American Psychologist journal by Etzel Cardeña:
https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Famp0000236
A summary of CIA experiments (noting ‘methodological problems’) on remote viewing:
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00787R000500250015-6.pdf
More on 'cellular memory', the idea that some aspects of consciousness can be influenced by cells in the rest of the body:
https://www.medicaldaily.com/can-organ-transplant-change-recipients-personality-cell-memory-theory-affirms-yes-247498
The coincidences between Lincoln and Kennedy’s assassinations:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/linkin-kennedy/
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Bonus episode!
I had a very interesting conversation with my friend Ryan Meeks recently, who is the founder of Eastlake Church near Seattle. We talked about humanist content ideas, the music we should use, consciousness and more. It's available at our Patreon page at:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/bonus-episode-25209326
...for as little as a buck a month! Please support the show; it's the only way we make it happen. Enjoy!
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The earth is in trouble and nobody seems to care. That's the observation of Josie, 15, who called the podcast after hearing more and more about humanity's biggest challenges during science class:
"Hey Bart, I'm Josie, I just turned 15 and I am a big fan of your podcast. So I have this really great science teacher who is one of my favorite teachers ever, and he's really passionate about a lot of things and will sometimes go on long trains of thought during class. One of the things he comes back to is basically how the well-being of earth is spiraling downhill and we will all be in serious environmental trouble in the near future, what with the spiking population and climate change. And then, once he talks about this, he sort of moves back to whatever lesson we're doing - you know, Newton's Third Law or whatever - and then I can't really focus the rest of the class because I keep coming back to: Wow, we are in serious trouble. Everyone in the world is in serious trouble. Why isn't this everyone's first concern at the moment? Why aren't we all trying to fix this? Is it because it's such a great truth that no-one wants to actually acknowledge it? So, I guess my main question is: How do we cope with this really high probability that life on earth may be really, really miserable for us in the near future? Thank you."
Bart Campolo and producer John Wright attempt to answer Josie's question.
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The earth is in trouble and nobody seems to care. That's the observation of Josie, 15, who called the podcast after hearing more and more about humanity's biggest challenges during science class:
"Hey Bart, I'm Josie, I just turned 15 and I am a big fan of your podcast. So I have this really great science teacher who is one of my favorite teachers ever, and he's really passionate about a lot of things and will sometimes go on long trains of thought during class. One of the things he comes back to is basically how the well-being of earth is spiraling downhill and we will all be in serious environmental trouble in the near future, what with the spiking population and climate change. And then, once he talks about this, he sort of moves back to whatever lesson we're doing - you know, Newton's Third Law or whatever - and then I can't really focus the rest of the class because I keep coming back to: Wow, we are in serious trouble. Everyone in the world is in serious trouble. Why isn't this everyone's first concern at the moment? Why aren't we all trying to fix this? Is it because it's such a great truth that no-one wants to actually acknowledge it? So, I guess my main question is: How do we cope with this really high probability that life on earth may be really, really miserable for us in the near future? Thank you."
Bart Campolo and producer John Wright attempt to answer Josie's question.
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Is it even a word? Bart Campolo’s reaction to the anti-semitic shooting in Pittsburg was to reach out to his Jewish friends and ask how they were doing. It made him wonder if there is a way to be actively pro-semitic, and to support Jews more.
To answer this, Bart reached out to the hosts of the most popular Jewish podcast in existence, Unorthodox. Mark Oppenheimer, Stephanie Butnick and Liel Leibovitz chatted with Bart in this fun conversation about philo-semitism, stereotypes of Jewish people, the places where people can get to know more Jews, how to be part of a group identity, tribalism and bagel-sniffing.
Unorthodox is a production of Tablet magazine and can be found at tabletmag.com/author/unorthodox and wherever podcasts are heard.
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A letter this week from a listener who says he's hungry for community with like-minded secular people is just the latest one like it. But this one couldn't have come at a better time, or landed on more fertile soil.
Two Sundays ago, Bart Campolo and a team of like-minded people held their first content-driven gathering at his new house in Cincinnati. The theme of the event was, 'Paying Attention.' They have decided to hold these meetings once every 2 weeks, with a different theme each week. Bart has a hunch that their material may be of interest to the wider Humanize Me community, and his team are excited to share their format.
In this episode, producer John Wright reads Phil's letter, and Bart answers by talking about what they're doing in Cincinnati and what he thinks may be of use to the wider community. If you'd like to read the letter Bart sent out to local friends describing the vision for the gatherings, go to bartcampolo.org/2019/02/letter.
If the content was supplied by Humanize Me, would you be interested in running your own house gatherings? Let us know in the Facebook poll at https://www.facebook.com/bart.campolo/posts/1364973810312278.
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You can be forgiven for not being familiar with 'pyrotheology', the lifelong philosophy project of Peter Rollins.
In this episode of Humanize Me, Bart Campolo attempts a philosophical deep dive with Pete, a friend of the podcast for years. It’s a very lively, argumentative conversation on the differences between Bart and Pete on human drive and desire, humanism, religion, death, meaning and meaninglessness.
Along the way, the pair touch on dialectics, human evolution, dual instincts, psychoanalysis, Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, ontological antagonism, fundamentalism and the death of God.
We recommend Pete's podcast, The Fundamentalists, where he lays out his ideas to the keen interest of his friend, the comedian Elliott Morgan. For more on pyrotheology and everything Pete, go to PeterRollins.com.
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One of our listeners read an interview with Conan O'Brien in the New York Times last week. He sent us this excerpt:
NYT: Is this how you want to go out, with a show that gets smaller and smaller until it’s gone?
Conan: Maybe that’s O.K. I think you have more of a problem with that than I do. [Laughs.] At this point in my career, I could go out with a grand, 21-gun salute, and climb into a rocket and the entire Supreme Court walks out and they jointly press a button, I’m shot up into the air and there’s an explosion and it’s orange and it spells, “Good night and God love.” In this culture? Two years later, it’s going to be, who’s Conan? This is going to sound grim, but eventually, all our graves go unattended.
NYT: You’re right, that does sound grim.
Conan: Sorry. Calvin Coolidge was a pretty popular president. I’ve been to his grave in Vermont. It has the presidential seal on it. Nobody was there. And by the way, I’m the only late-night host that has been to Calvin Coolidge’s grave. I think that’s what separates me from the other hosts.
I had a great conversation with Albert Brooks once. When I met him for the first time, I was kind of stammering. I said, you make movies, they live on forever. I just do these late-night shows, they get lost, they’re never seen again and who cares? And he looked at me and he said, [Albert Brooks voice] “What are you talking about? None of it matters.” None of it matters? “No, that’s the secret. In 1940, people said Clark Gable is the face of the 20th Century. Who [expletive] thinks about Clark Gable? It doesn’t matter. You’ll be forgotten. I’ll be forgotten. We’ll all be forgotten.” It’s so funny because you’d think that would depress me. I was walking on air after that.
Our listener takes this idea of Conan's and asks: "I wonder why he finds it liberating and I find it depressing?"
Bart Campolo has lots to say about this, and in conversation with John Wright this episode attempts to give an answer. Along the way, hear references to an article about chess, which can be found at: https://www.si.com/vault/1992/03/02/126053/the-child-is-the-master-playing-a-young-chess-prodigy-rekindled-the-authors-love-for-the-game AND a poem which can be found at: http://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=2296.
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One of our listeners read an interview with Conan O'Brien in the New York Times last week. He sent us this excerpt:
NYT: Is this how you want to go out, with a show that gets smaller and smaller until it’s gone?
Conan: Maybe that’s O.K. I think you have more of a problem with that than I do. [Laughs.] At this point in my career, I could go out with a grand, 21-gun salute, and climb into a rocket and the entire Supreme Court walks out and they jointly press a button, I’m shot up into the air and there’s an explosion and it’s orange and it spells, “Good night and God love.” In this culture? Two years later, it’s going to be, who’s Conan? This is going to sound grim, but eventually, all our graves go unattended.
NYT: You’re right, that does sound grim.
Conan: Sorry. Calvin Coolidge was a pretty popular president. I’ve been to his grave in Vermont. It has the presidential seal on it. Nobody was there. And by the way, I’m the only late-night host that has been to Calvin Coolidge’s grave. I think that’s what separates me from the other hosts.
I had a great conversation with Albert Brooks once. When I met him for the first time, I was kind of stammering. I said, you make movies, they live on forever. I just do these late-night shows, they get lost, they’re never seen again and who cares? And he looked at me and he said, [Albert Brooks voice] “What are you talking about? None of it matters.” None of it matters? “No, that’s the secret. In 1940, people said Clark Gable is the face of the 20th Century. Who [expletive] thinks about Clark Gable? It doesn’t matter. You’ll be forgotten. I’ll be forgotten. We’ll all be forgotten.” It’s so funny because you’d think that would depress me. I was walking on air after that.
Our listener takes this idea of Conan's and asks: "I wonder why he finds it liberating and I find it depressing?"
Bart Campolo has lots to say about this, and in conversation with John Wright this episode attempts to give an answer. Along the way, hear references to an article about chess, which can be found at: https://www.si.com/vault/1992/03/02/126053/the-child-is-the-master-playing-a-young-chess-prodigy-rekindled-the-authors-love-for-the-game AND a poem which can be found at: http://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=2296.
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James Croft is the Outreach Director of the Ethical Society of St. Louis, a longstanding humanist congregation, and one of the largest in the world.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, James talks about what his congregation is doing to engage with the issues of St. Louis, a place which has made many headlines in the past number of years for racial strife. James subscribes to 'deed before creed', an interest less in what people believe and more in what they commit to doing. His congregation is creating safe places to ask questions that people are worried about asking, or which may be loaded, in areas like LGBTQ matters or on topics like white fragility. In addition, he and Bart get into a discussion on the usefulness of protests and revolutions versus better conversations (spoiler alert: they eventually agree that both are of use).
The Ethical Society of St. Louis can be found online at EthicalStL.org. He is on Twitter @JFLCroft.
And, on this episode, we go out with a song! Eric Bachmann's song 'Mercy' is very much in keeping with the spirit of this podcast. For more info, go to mergerecords.com/eric-bachmann-eric-bachmann.
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It's a new year! A time for fresh ideas and new beginnings, and so much has been happening in Bart Campolo's life that this episode serves as an update and a reflection on various themes, including:
How helping a parent cross life's finish line can focus the mind and change your plans.
How the birth of a first grandchild a few days later can turn the whole thing into a 'circle of life' motif, while turning attention on the kind of world they're being born into.
How suddenly becoming aware of your own habits and behaviors can give you a desire to change them.
Also, Bart talks about the expectations we have to react in certain standard ways when going through life's journey, and how authenticity can cut through those expectations.
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It's a new year! A time for fresh ideas and new beginnings, and so much has been happening in Bart Campolo's life that this episode serves as an update and a reflection on various themes, including:
How helping a parent cross life's finish line can focus the mind and change your plans.
How the birth of a first grandchild a few days later can turn the whole thing into a 'circle of life' motif, while turning attention on the kind of world they're being born into.
How suddenly becoming aware of your own habits and behaviors can give you a desire to change them.
Also, Bart talks about the expectations we have to react in certain standard ways when going through life's journey, and how authenticity can cut through those expectations.
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A quick Christmas greeting from Bart Campolo, urging secular folks like himself to embrace the holiday for what it is, and be their best humanist selves during the season.
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Bart Campolo's oldest and closest friend, Matthew Rodreick, is this week's guest on the podcast. Matthew's life has been shaped by his son Gabe's spinal cord injury, sustained around a decade ago when Gabe was 16.
The conversation in this episode begins by exploring the relationship between father and son and the multiple roles one must play in that event, and validating Matthew's own experience as Gabe's father as a valid and important one.
It finishes entirely differently: with a moment of revisionist history for Bart as he is reminded that he did not support Matthew's choice to reconnect with his birth father at the beginning, and the two friends playfully mull over Bart's old advice, what he got wrong and why.
Matthew's organization, Unite 2 Fight Paralysis, can be found at u2pf.org.
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Today's caller was in line at a drive-through coffee place, and decided to pay for the people behind her in line. But she realized that, in the course of doing so, the rewarding feeling she got from the act may have been the reason she did it in the first place. And that led to her question:
"Is there actually an unselfish act? And if there isn't, are we doing it for the right reasons? Can there even be an unselfish act and if there is, would that be good?"
Takeaways: The feeling of reward for good deeds is grounded in evolution, the idea that only truly selfless acts are pure or good is probably a holdover from faith-based ethics, virtue is its own reward, take pride in and enjoy being a good person, how you act is what makes the difference in the world, self-interest - properly understood - actually mandates altruism, and excessive selfishness in the name of pursuing happiness is misinformed.
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Today's caller was in line at a drive-through coffee place, and decided to pay for the people behind her in line. But she realized that, in the course of doing so, the rewarding feeling she got from the act may have been the reason she did it in the first place. And that led to her question:
"Is there actually an unselfish act? And if there isn't, are we doing it for the right reasons? Can there even be an unselfish act and if there is, would that be good?"
Takeaways: The feeling of reward for good deeds is grounded in evolution, the idea that only truly selfless acts are pure or good is probably a holdover from faith-based ethics, virtue is its own reward, take pride in and enjoy being a good person, how you act is what makes the difference in the world, self-interest - properly understood - actually mandates altruism, and excessive selfishness in the name of pursuing happiness is misinformed.
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Language really shapes how we think about things. After Jonathan Merritt moved from the South to New York City, he discovered that the words he had always used to describe spiritual life didn’t resonate anymore! The more pluralistic and postmodern the society, he observed, the less language people seem to have for spiritual experience.
Jonathan is so sure that this is a problem, he wrote a book about it - Learning to Speak God from Scratch - which he and Bart Campolo chat about in this episode.
They talk about the resurgence of the religious right and the desire of many Christians to separate themselves from it, the importance of language to describe good and kind forms of spirituality, Jonathan’s own beliefs, the importance of good questions and our comfort level talking about our spiritual lives.
Jonathan is one of America's premier religion writers whose work can be found at The Atlantic, The New York Times and many other publications, and whose website can be found at JonathanMerritt.com.
Leave us a review in iTunes! Take a screenshot of your review and send it to humanizemepodcast@gmail.com to enter our drawing for a copy of Jonathan's book! The publisher has agreed to part with three of them, and we had 18 entries last time, so you stand a good chance of winning! Entries accepted until 11:59pm EST on Sunday, December 2nd.
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Let's be honest: Spending time cooped up with family and friends on holidays like Thanksgiving can present some interesting conversational challenges for many of us. With that in mind, podcast producer John Wright asks this question of Bart Campolo in this episode:
"Bill Maher thinks we should stop talking politics with each other in the context of our personal lives and let it be more of a private thing. As someone who had a very serious conversation over Thanksgiving with your parents several years ago about leaving the faith, what do you think of this idea, and how should we conduct conversations with family and friends over Thanksgiving and the holidays? Do you have any advice about topics which are good for these kinds of occasions and topics which are not?"
Takeaways: Set a goal beyond just hanging out, plan for different kinds of conversations, ask questions that allow others to be heard and seen, don’t try to change anybody’s mind, if you’re worried about having a difficult time tell someone you trust who can be rooting for you going in, have some good, safe topics on hand, and maybe break out the movie Elf.
Never heard Bart's story of 'coming out' as an unbeliever to his parents on Thanksgiving? Watch the documentary (which has new pricing and rental options)! For info: CampoloFilm.com. Good reading material on the topic can be found in the recent NYT article, 'How to Talk to People, According to Terry Gross.'
Also: Congrats to JC Murphy, Ben Ernsberger and Lexi Powers, who'll each be sent a copy of Jessica Wilbanks' book, 'When I Spoke in Tongues', after winning our contest last week!
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Jessica Wilbanks grew up in a fundamentalist Pentecostal church on the western shore of the Chesapeake Bay, and then, at 16, walked away from the church. Ever since, she's been haunted by the world she left behind and wrote a book about it, just released: When I Spoke in Tongues (available on Amazon).
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Jessica talks about growing up in her family, the "loss of an assumptive world" with her loss of faith, having a nervous breakdown in college, transcendent experiences and the Holy Spirit, the early days of Pentecostalism, her mother defending her from an angry pastor, her bisexuality and more.
We're giving away 3 copies of Jessica's book! Just leave a public review of this podcast on iTunes, take a screenshot of your review and then send it to humanizemepodcast@gmail.com. We'll draw 3 names and contact you if you win. Good luck!
Jessica's website is JessicaWilbanks.com.
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Sometimes, in the face of big problems in the world, doing everything we can reasonably do stills feels inadequate.
Consider the question this week, asked by Lexi in the Humanize Me Facebook Group:
"Today I find myself missing prayer. I just finished watching Last Week Tonight and it was about family separation. They played a clip of a child recently reunited with his mother and he was crying and saying she didn’t love him. It was absolutely heart wrenching. My helplessness weighs heavy on me tonight. I can give money and protest and vote but my it feels small. I used to spend moments like these in prayer and I would leave feeling as though I had somehow actually done something. It was a way for me to feel like I could shut the door on that grief and move through life like normal. But as I’m typing this I think that maybe that was my problem. I shouldn’t move on from this grief. I should feel it fully and find more actionable steps to prompt change."
Bart Campolo begins a multi-faceted answer, but partway through begins to doubt his own wisdom on this. After some reassurance, he sees it through to the conclusion: we should do whatever we can, and give ourselves a break about what we can't.
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Just say no! That's the mantra most of us have picked up from authority figures in our lives about drugs of all sorts, no matter their category.
But for our guest Ashley Booth and a growing number of scientists, doctors and thinkers, it's become clear that our culture threw the baby out with the bathwater when it comes to the usefulness of psychedelics. This particular class of compounds - psilocybin, LSD, DMT and others - is special. They provide strange, unusual forms of consciousness, changing the perspectives of those who take them so much that their experiences can be life-changing.
Bart Campolo has never tried psychedelics. But in his project to become more empathetic, more available to love others fully, and to make the most of the one life he has, he has become more and more certain that he can't afford to avoid psychedelics forever. His conversation with Ashley includes: special usefulness for those with PTSD, anxiety and depression; Ashley's own experiences; how to interpret the experiences and what they may tell us about reality; how to find a good guide; what scares Bart the most; and how we learn impactful things regardless of whether it's a fun process or not.
Ashley Booth is a scientist, researcher and psychonaut. Her website can be found at AshleyBooth.net and her advocacy community can be found at AwareProject.org. Their guide for would-be participants (mentioned in this episode) can be found at AwareProject.com/Questions. Another of her endeavors can be found at InnerSpaceIntegration.com.
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Some of the things people abandon when they leave the church are rituals. But this week's Q&A features a voicemail by listener Morris Bird, who asks:
"The word ritual is used to describe things as innocent as reading the newspaper. On the other hand, it's used to describe sinister cult ceremonies. I'm curious, what are your thoughts generally on the role of rituals in secular communities, and what makes a good ritual, and how are good rituals designed and implemented into a community?"
In a first for one of our Q&A episodes, Bart chooses to 'phone a friend', a now-secular 'celebrant' called Keith Page, and they chew over the idea of rituals.
Takeaways: Rituals create order, and a sense of permanence, funerals, weddings, families, birthdays, Alcoholics Anonymous and other things are good examples, rituals of initiation like baptism actually make sense, the best rituals are connected to a value you share, solo rituals too, people need collective practice.
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Don't worry; if you've never heard of 'evidism', you're not alone. This is a term coined by the guests in this episode, inventor Jeff Haley and author Dale McGowan, to describe people committed to fact-based, evidence-based thinking.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Haley and McGowan talk about their book, Sharing Reality: How to Bring Secularism and Science to an Evolving Religious World, and their ideas for how to have better, more evidence-based conversations with people who have different worldviews.
They talk about how we know fact from fiction, the word 'believe', how we know the earth is round, evidence and the resurrection of Jesus Christ, bias and how we must all admit to having it, and how to talk to people of faith.
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How does one decide who to pick to be friends with? Bart Campolo and John Wright look at this question as a sort of 'Part 2' to the last Q&A about cultivating good friendships:
"I really enjoyed Episode 326 where you guys talked about how being interested in other people is the first step to having good friendships, but my question is, who should I be focusing on? Who should I invest in or try to get closer to when I build a nice friendship? Looking forward to hearing what you have to say."
Takeaways: shared interests are important, circles are an easier place to start than individuals, complimentary personalities are better than sameness, have an awareness of your own social cachet and keep it in mind, choose kindness over coolness.
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No defaults. That's how Dedeker Winston, and her romantic partners Jase and Alex, see the foundation of their relationship structure: conscious, intentional choice around a lifestyle that works for the people involved in it, rather than defaulting to the monogamy (or serial monogamy) of our culture.
As a former evangelical Christian, Dedeker not only left behind her faith but also many of the ideas based on it, like its messages about sex and relationships.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Dedeker talks about hierarchy in poly relationships like hers, the 'relationship escalator', expression of ultimate values, the fallacy of thinking that one person can play every role in one's life, commitment, financial and legal matters, comparisons with blended families and LGBTQ families, the difficulties of being in alternative lifestyles in a society that doesn't see them as normal or good, and takeaways for couples who plan to stay in monogamous relationships.
Dedeker's website can be found at DedekerWinston.com, her poly podcast can be found at Multiamory.com and her book can be found on Amazon.
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No defaults. That's how Dedeker Winston, and her romantic partners Jase and Alex, see the foundation of their relationship structure: conscious, intentional choice around a lifestyle that works for the people involved in it, rather than defaulting to the monogamy (or serial monogamy) of our culture.
As a former evangelical Christian, Dedeker not only left behind her faith but also many of the ideas based on it, like its messages about sex and relationships.
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Dedeker talks about hierarchy in poly relationships like hers, the 'relationship escalator', expression of ultimate values, the fallacy of thinking that one person can play every role in one's life, commitment, financial and legal matters, comparisons with blended families and LGBTQ families, the difficulties of being in alternative lifestyles in a society that doesn't see them as normal or good, and takeaways for couples who plan to stay in monogamous relationships.
Dedeker's website can be found at DedekerWinston.com, her poly podcast can be found at Multiamory.com and her book can be found on Amazon.
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It's a line Bart Campolo uses a lot in this podcast and elsewhere, that the essence of life is cultivating loving relationships with other people. Today's question asks how to begin the process of doing that:
"Bart often talks about about cultivating loving relationships, but I’m never sure what he means or what I’m supposed to do. Don’t get me wrong, I was popular enough in school and I’ve always gotten along well with the people I work with, but I don’t know how many of my friends would say they actually feel loved by me, or vice versa. I’m not asking for Bart’s '12 Rules For Life', but I’d sure like to know Step One when it comes to connecting more deeply with the people in my life."
Bart borrows heavily from Dale Carnegie's classic book How To Win Friends and Influence People in his response, which he uses to break it down to a single, basic point.
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It's a line Bart Campolo uses a lot in this podcast and elsewhere, that the essence of life is cultivating loving relationships with other people. Today's question asks how to begin the process of doing that:
"Bart often talks about about cultivating loving relationships, but I’m never sure what he means or what I’m supposed to do. Don’t get me wrong, I was popular enough in school and I’ve always gotten along well with the people I work with, but I don’t know how many of my friends would say they actually feel loved by me, or vice versa. I’m not asking for Bart’s '12 Rules For Life', but I’d sure like to know Step One when it comes to connecting more deeply with the people in my life."
Bart borrows heavily from Dale Carnegie's classic book How To Win Friends and Influence People in his response, which he uses to break it down to a single, basic point.
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It's often noted that Alcoholics Anonymous sounds like a religious movement, with its appeal to a 'Higher Power'. But Joe C. is the founder of a group called AA Beyond Belief, which he says exists to provide a space for AA agnostics, atheists and freethinkers worldwide.
Bart Campolo has wanted to have a conversation with a secular person deep in the AA world for a long time, and Joe C. is that person! Many people have been helped and find their community in groups like his, and Bart wanted to explore how it looks for Joe, people in recovery and those in his group in particular.
Find AA Beyond Belief at AABeyondBelief.org. See also SecularAA.org and follow Joe at Twitter.com/Rebellion_Dogs.
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Bart Campolo thinks his kids are the best in the world. Well, not objectively speaking, right? Well, sort of! I mean, he really prefers his kids to your kids. But he hopes you do too. Is that right? Is that okay? And is there any problem with that sort of 'us-them' mentality?
On this episode, Bart and Humanize Me producer John Wright attempt to answer a question from listener Daniel, who's concerned that in-group/out-group thinking could have a dark side:
"A common critique I hear about religion is that it fosters an us-them mentality. Humanize Me, the episode with Charles Vogl in particular but in general also, says that 'us-thems' are not only fine but good. We should have 'us' groups, we just shouldn't mistreat our 'thems'. Where it gets sticky for me is, at what point does a preference for one group of people become mistreatment of another? And to me that begins when we say that not only do we prefer a certain group but it's right for us to prefer this group. When Bart talks about his instinct to treat his child better than another child, to me it sometimes sounds like he thinks that instinct is right, or justifiable. It's one thing to not feel guilty about it and acknowledge that it's perfectly natural, but it's another to think of it as right. So to me, when I cultivate loving relationships with people inside my group, goes to 'It is right for me to favor my people', it's only a matter of time for me to mistreat someone without realizing it was mistreatment. The other problem I see when embracing us-thems too unreservedly is that when you feel justified sticking to your 'us' group, you don't get challenged on your beliefs or values or ways of thinking and it becomes an echo chamber. So, my question for Bart is: Do you see any problems with creating communities with distinct definitions and fostering loyalties to those communities and, if so, at what point does this whole thing become negative or unhealthy? Thanks guys."
If you're thinking it's a damn good question, well, that's what we thought too.
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Bart Campolo thinks his kids are the best in the world. Well, not objectively speaking, right? Well, sort of! I mean, he really prefers his kids to your kids. But he hopes you do too. Is that right? Is that okay? And is there any problem with that sort of 'us-them' mentality?
On this episode, Bart and Humanize Me producer John Wright attempt to answer a question from listener Daniel, who's concerned that in-group/out-group thinking could have a dark side:
"A common critique I hear about religion is that it fosters an us-them mentality. Humanize Me, the episode with Charles Vogl in particular but in general also, says that 'us-thems' are not only fine but good. We should have 'us' groups, we just shouldn't mistreat our 'thems'. Where it gets sticky for me is, at what point does a preference for one group of people become mistreatment of another? And to me that begins when we say that not only do we prefer a certain group but it's right for us to prefer this group. When Bart talks about his instinct to treat his child better than another child, to me it sometimes sounds like he thinks that instinct is right, or justifiable. It's one thing to not feel guilty about it and acknowledge that it's perfectly natural, but it's another to think of it as right. So to me, when I cultivate loving relationships with people inside my group, goes to 'It is right for me to favor my people', it's only a matter of time for me to mistreat someone without realizing it was mistreatment. The other problem I see when embracing us-thems too unreservedly is that when you feel justified sticking to your 'us' group, you don't get challenged on your beliefs or values or ways of thinking and it becomes an echo chamber. So, my question for Bart is: Do you see any problems with creating communities with distinct definitions and fostering loyalties to those communities and, if so, at what point does this whole thing become negative or unhealthy? Thanks guys."
If you're thinking it's a damn good question, well, that's what we thought too.
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It's not a term most people use every day, but street epistemology is a thing. Anthony Magnabosco is one of its more prominent ambassadors, largely because he routinely captures his efforts on video and posts them on the internet.
What is street epistemology? It's a conversational tool which uses Socratic questioning to help people expose the underlying methods by which they arrived at their beliefs, thereby subjecting those beliefs to scrutiny. Examples of Anthony at work can be found on YouTube, and the website can be found at StreetEpistemology.com.
In this conversation, Bart Campolo talks with Anthony about his approach, what he hopes to gain from these conversations, beliefs and their rationality, how irrational beliefs can sometimes be held for understandable reasons, whether it's fair to challenge someone's beliefs if you can't replace their faith-based communities afterwards, responsibilities to people after the conversation is over, and the difference between ordinary believers and professional apologists.
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This week's question comes from a listener who finds it hard to spend time alone without having a really difficult time over it:
"Hey Bart. Okay, so when my girlfriend goes away on business trips, I experience a ton of anxiety. And it isn't that I'm jealous of her - I'm I'm totally glad that she's having these experiences - but I get really anxious and my tendency is to want to immediately fill that space with with someone so that I don't have to have that negative feeling of being all alone, which I really hate. Is there something wrong with me? Thanks."
Both Bart and John relate to the question on at least some level, and think it's a fairly common feeling. But is it fair to say that there's something wrong with someone who feels this way?
Takeaways: Comfort being alone is harder in the digital age, it needs to be exercised and cultivated, sometimes we may be fleeing the sound of our inner voice, there are things we can do to be better at this.
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Curating peoples' secrets. It's a decidedly odd vocation, but Frank Warren has been doing it for a long time now through his ever-popular online art project, PostSecret.com. People anonymously send Frank their most intimate, private, beautiful, scandalous, horrifying, amazing, unspoken thoughts on postcards (yes, through the mail!) and Frank posts a new batch of them every Sunday on the site.
In this conversation, Bart aims to find out what Frank's life looks like, how he got here, what his relationships with his mail carriers are like, what he's learned from receiving so many intimate thoughts of strangers every day, what the root of the issues people face today is, why people send them, the nature of stigma and much more.
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In this episode Bart takes a question that, he joked upon hearing it, may easily have come from his Christian father:
"What is the basis for your morality? I am not asking what your morality says, such as 'Do not gossip', 'Be trustworthy' or 'Be forgiving.' I am asking the 'Why?' question about your morality ('Why should you not gossip?', 'Why should you be trustworthy?', 'Why should you be forgiving?'). For me, my 'Why?' used to be my belief that people inherently deserve to suffer the worst possible suffering for an endless amount of time. I no longer believe this, and I now recognize the harm that often results from my old moral foundation. My new moral foundation is, in part, the desire to decrease suffering. Why? Because a scenario where every conscious creature suffers as much as possible for as long as possible would be a bad thing. I can't prove it, but I hope it is self-evident. So what is your moral foundation?"
Takeaways: There is no objective morality; the value of life is central; maximizing the flourishing of conscious beings is at the heart of it.
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Charles Vogl helps leaders transform loneliness and separation into connection and belonging. His book, The Art of Community, is the book Bart Campolo says he always wished he had to recommend to people who wanted to build their own groups and nurture them.
In this conversation between Charles and Bart, they talk about life's 'inner circles', contributing to a richer world, moving from fear to generosity, and preparing for the hard work ahead.
Charles's website can be found at CharlesVogl.com.
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Charles Vogl helps leaders transform loneliness and separation into connection and belonging. His book, The Art of Community, is the book Bart Campolo says he always wished he had to recommend to people who wanted to build their own groups and nurture them.
In this conversation between Charles and Bart, they talk about life's 'inner circles', contributing to a richer world, moving from fear to generosity, and preparing for the hard work ahead.
Charles's website can be found at CharlesVogl.com.
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Bart answers a question from a listener called Erin, who called our ‘Q Line’ to ask how to start to make new connections with people:
“How do I talk to people at the beginning of something new? Say I meet someone and I want to be friends with them or there’s someone I haven’t seen in a long time and they’ve come home for a visit or something, how do I make the next move? What are the steps to setting up a platonic date?”
Bart took off running, saying that it’s one of his favorite questions to be asked and drawing from his own experiences with college students to give a pretty comprehensive primer on how to talk to people, connect, and get to the next level with them.
Takeaways: Do it over food or drink; be clear about your intentions; as the initiator, take the lead; double down on curiosity and ask thoughtful questions; affirm people and be in a ‘giving’ mode; don’t be afraid to go deep; don’t be afraid of prep ahead of time and evaluation afterwards; be engaged as an active listener; communicate that you notice them.
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Bart answers a question from a listener called Erin, who called our ‘Q Line’ to ask how to start to make new connections with people:
“How do I talk to people at the beginning of something new? Say I meet someone and I want to be friends with them or there’s someone I haven’t seen in a long time and they’ve come home for a visit or something, how do I make the next move? What are the steps to setting up a platonic date?”
Bart took off running, saying that it’s one of his favorite questions to be asked and drawing from his own experiences with college students to give a pretty comprehensive primer on how to talk to people, connect, and get to the next level with them.
Takeaways: Do it over food or drink; be clear about your intentions; as the initiator, take the lead; double down on curiosity and ask thoughtful questions; affirm people and be in a ‘giving’ mode; don’t be afraid to go deep; don’t be afraid of prep ahead of time and evaluation afterwards; be engaged as an active listener; communicate that you notice them.
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Human centered design (HCD), and its closely-related sibling, impact design, is about understanding challenges facing people or society, and working with others to design solutions to those challenges. Design thinking is an interdisciplinary thing, a collaborative process and a highly skilled area.
Kate Hanisian and Ramsey Ford are the co-founders of Cincinnati-based 'Design Impact', leading a team of people working on a range of things like social inequality, community and social change. This conversation they had with Bart Campolo is recorded a little differently than most episodes of Humanize Me, and is more like listening in on a chat in a coffee shop!
Check out Kate and Ramsey's website at D-Impact.org.
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Human centered design (HCD), and its closely-related sibling, impact design, is about understanding challenges facing people or society, and working with others to design solutions to those challenges. Design thinking is an interdisciplinary thing, a collaborative process and a highly skilled area.
Kate Hanisian and Ramsey Ford are the co-founders of Cincinnati-based 'Design Impact', leading a team of people working on a range of things like social inequality, community and social change. This conversation they had with Bart Campolo is recorded a little differently than most episodes of Humanize Me, and is more like listening in on a chat in a coffee shop!
Check out Kate and Ramsey's website at D-Impact.org.
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On this week’s Q&A episode, Bart answers a question from a listener called Matt (who called our new ‘Q Line’ to leave his question for Bart directly). Matt’s question concerned his 5 year-old son, who was given an abrupt theology lesson from his 6 year-old cousin recently:
“My son mentioned that he did not think that God was real, to which his cousin responded by saying that, since he did not believe God is real and that he did not go to church, he would be sent to Hell by God if he died. And he describes Hell, of course, as a terrible place with fire and darkness where you don’t want to go, and my son kind of angrily responded that he didn’t think that was true and did not want to go to such a place.”
This led to an assertion from the boys’ grandfather, who confronted Matt’s wife and told her that they were leading the child astray by not teaching him about these matters.
Bart Campolo had some thoughts about both how to talk to children about things – like Hell – that they may hear from other children or adults, and about how to talk to the grandfather in this example about how his wife and he are raising their son.
Takeaways: Asking thought-provoking questions may be better than refutations; instilling respect for the beliefs of others is important; asserting boundaries around parenting is also important; teaching them about the whole variety of religions in the world may provide perspective; project security and confidence in your conclusions and your kids may well pick up on it.
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Glenda Jordan makes money by being sexy, and dancing on stages in a form of adult entertainment. But that doesn't mean that she is merely a sex object, or that she gives up her humanity to do it. So what's the difference between objectification and empowerment?
In this conversation with Bart Campolo, Glenda talks about how the female body is seen by males from the early stages of a woman's life, the attention women get whether they want it or not, physical safety as a woman, and social conditioning in men.
But at the very center of the conversation is a simple message: sexuality is about context, and there are both appropriate and inappropriate contexts in which to look at, enjoy and - yes - sexualize the female form. Glenda sees her work as an example of one such appropriate context, where she is in control, where she's getting paid for it, where she is empowered to perform and works hard at it, and where she has chosen to express herself in a sexualized way.
Where are the lines? How should men behave around women they find attractive, generally? Is cat calling ever okay? When is it wrong to look, and is there an obligation to look away, too? And is common sense around this subject really all that common?
Glenda lives in Las Vegas and works full time as a model, performer and dancer. She moved to Vegas after graduating with an art degree from the University of Tennessee. Being raised fundamentalist Southern Baptist and transitioning to atheism helped her develop a deep understanding and appreciation of feminism and social justice. Follow Glenda at Instagram.com/calliopehoop.
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Suicide is on the minds of the many after some prominent ones in the past week or two. So today, we get to a question close to the hearts of the rest of us:
"How should we think about high profile suicides like those of fashion designer Kate Spade and TV personality chef Anthony Bourdain? These people seemingly had everything they could want, and yet they found themselves apparently without hope. What does this teach the rest of us, how should we think about suicide in general and how can we begin to prevent it from happening?"
Bart attempts to answer the question, which is difficult by its very nature.
Takeaways: We don't really know celebrities like we think we do; we should remember that people will often not reach out when they're anxious or depressed and need frequent check-ins from people they love; investments in the science of happiness are worthwhile.
Bonus question: What books does Bart recommend for people coming out of faith?
Links:
Paulogia's YouTube review of Leaving My Father's Faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4opVMM6PlYM
Mr. Rogers' simple set of rules for talking to children - The Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers-neighborhood-talking-to-kids/562352
The Science of Well-Being at Yale - Coursera:
https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being/home/welcome
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Suicide is on the minds of the many after some prominent ones in the past week or two. So today, we get to a question close to the hearts of the rest of us:
"How should we think about high profile suicides like those of fashion designer Kate Spade and TV personality chef Anthony Bourdain? These people seemingly had everything they could want, and yet they found themselves apparently without hope. What does this teach the rest of us, how should we think about suicide in general and how can we begin to prevent it from happening?"
Bart attempts to answer the question, which is difficult by its very nature.
Takeaways: We don't really know celebrities like we think we do; we should remember that people will often not reach out when they're anxious or depressed and need frequent check-ins from people they love; investments in the science of happiness are worthwhile.
Bonus question: What books does Bart recommend for people coming out of faith?
Links:
Paulogia's YouTube review of Leaving My Father's Faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4opVMM6PlYM
Mr. Rogers' simple set of rules for talking to children - The Atlantic:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/06/mr-rogers-neighborhood-talking-to-kids/562352
The Science of Well-Being at Yale - Coursera:
https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being/home/welcome
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Like Bart Campolo, Kent Dobson had a prominent Christian father, and, like Bart, Kent finds himself a post-evangelical. But, although their journeys share some similarities, these two have not ended up in the same place. Kent thinks differently.
In this wide-ranging conversation between them, Kent talks about his current work with a values-based community that includes believers and non-believers, being part of (and pastor of) the Michigan megachurch founded by Rob Bell, the ‘faith unraveling’ since, the state of Israel, the work of Carl Jung, trying on different theological ‘hats’, and the (not so easy to answer) question of whether there’s a personal force in the universe.
Kent Dobson’s website can be found at kentdobson.com. The C3 community can be found at c3westmichigan.org.
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Bart Campolo doesn’t believe in God anymore. But recently, while attempting to ride a new tandem bicycle for the first time, he fell, damaging his wrist, and immediately cried out: “Why? Why me!”
It seems to be instinctive behavior for homo sapiens, but how should we think about it? Is it good to ‘lean in’ to these instincts, or should we try to avoid personifying the universe and crying out for help in this way? Some thoughts on the subject in this episode of Humanize Me.
Takeaways: We’re evolved creatures, with evolved instincts. But we’re also able to think about our responses and biases, and analyze how our mind works. Bart thinks there are some lessons from meditation. Bart and John talk about how ‘crying out’ manifests within culture, and about safe communities where crying out can be accommodated in a healthy, caring way.
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Have you ever wanted to get into the outdoors more but been a little intimidated by other groups who do? Or do you find it hard finding groups where everybody is open to new friendships?
Women Who Explore is a community dedicated to getting women into the outdoors, and it’s ended up creating hundreds of new friendships in the process, all in the past year. Its co-founder, Lindsay MacNevin, is a Canadian former travel writer who joins Bart Campolo on this episode of Humanize Me to talk about her project.
It all started with a trip into the mountains with her sister Jenni, who is the other co-founder, and a bad experience with a group of female hikers. Now, women are meeting each other in scores of weekend and week-long getaways, bonding over their love of beautiful places, connecting over campfires and making legitimate, long-lasting friendships.
Also on this episode, Women Who Explore brand ambassador Melissa Wright jumps in to talk about her experience with Lindsay’s group.
The website can be found at WomenWhoExplore.com.
For complete details of Morris Bird’s 9th Interfaithless Barbecue Beach Party at Bolsa Chica State Beach, California on Saturday, May 19th, see Bart's blog at bartcampolo.org.
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Have you ever wanted to get into the outdoors more but been a little intimidated by other groups who do? Or do you find it hard finding groups where everybody is open to new friendships?
Women Who Explore is a community dedicated to getting women into the outdoors, and it’s ended up creating hundreds of new friendships in the process, all in the past year. Its co-founder, Lindsay MacNevin, is a Canadian former travel writer who joins Bart Campolo on this episode of Humanize Me to talk about her project.
It all started with a trip into the mountains with her sister Jenni, who is the other co-founder, and a bad experience with a group of female hikers. Now, women are meeting each other in scores of weekend and week-long getaways, bonding over their love of beautiful places, connecting over campfires and making legitimate, long-lasting friendships.
Also on this episode, Women Who Explore brand ambassador Melissa Wright jumps in to talk about her experience with Lindsay’s group.
The website can be found at WomenWhoExplore.com.
For complete details of Morris Bird’s 9th Interfaithless Barbecue Beach Party at Bolsa Chica State Beach, California on Saturday, May 19th, see Bart's blog at bartcampolo.org.
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When you're asked for money by a homeless person, or pass someone who appears to be homeless standing in a doorway or on a street corner, how should you respond?
That's the topic addressed in this, the first of Humanize Me's Q&A episodes. Bart Campolo is joined by the podcast's producer John Wright to attempt to answer the question, which came in from a listener called Mark in Bristol, UK and reads in part:
"I know you've got tons of experience helping [the homeless], and seem to have made it a component of your life's work. But what's a good, productive approach for the rest of us who have all-consuming careers (I'm an academic research scientist) and who can spare but a moment and some spare change for the homeless we see on the streets?"
Takeaways: Each of us must ask how our life is contributing to making life better for society, if we’re going to feel okay walking past that person on the street. It's a good thing to be altruistic in a mission-focused way. Our energy, emotional bandwidth and finances are finite resources that need managed well. Listen to the episode for more!
Bonus question: "Do you still find any bible verses inspirational and why?"
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Well, are we? It’s a weird thought that the experience we all share – of making our own decisions, freely choosing our next move – is nothing more than an illusion. But the science leans that way, and Dan Barker has engaged with the subject more than most.
Dan is an activist, an author and speaker who serves as the co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. He’s sued the government, talked about atheism with Oprah, debated with Sean Hannity and hung out with Christopher Hitchens. And he agrees with Sam Harris about free will, but has his own thoughts on the implications of that conclusion.
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Well, are we? It’s a weird thought that the experience we all share – of making our own decisions, freely choosing our next move – is nothing more than an illusion. But the science leans that way, and Dan Barker has engaged with the subject more than most.
Dan is an activist, an author and speaker who serves as the co-president of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. He’s sued the government, talked about atheism with Oprah, debated with Sean Hannity and hung out with Christopher Hitchens. And he agrees with Sam Harris about free will, but has his own thoughts on the implications of that conclusion.
Enjoy the podcast? Support it at Patreon.com/HumanizeMe! Review us on iTunes (it really helps). And join over 600 other listeners on the show’s Facebook Group (search Humanize Me).
Humanize Me is hosted by Bart Campolo and is produced by JuxMedia.com.
In this episode Bart talks (a lot) with new pal Mike McHargue, aka Science Mike, whose two podcasts, Ask Science Mike and The Liturgists (with Michael Gungor) are HUGE among the still-kinda-Christian-but-with-lots-of-questions crowd. We don’t normally post anything this long, but so many of Science Mike’s listeners told him this was their favorite episode of all time that we couldn’t resist seeing if our Humanizers would like it too.
You can find Science Mike at his website, as well as on Twitter @mikemchargue and @asksciencemike .
Leaving My Father's Faith, the film about Bart and his father Tony, is now streaming on Vimeo and Amazon Prime. Check it out here.
It's here! For all of you who have been waiting patiently to see the documentary film Leaving My Father's Faith – capturing Bart's conversation with his dad Tony Campolo on the subject of his leaving Christianity – the film is streaming now on Amazon Prime Video and Vimeo On Demand.
This week's episode is a chat between Bart, Tony via phone and John Wright, the director of the new film. They reflect on the release of the film, what it captures, reactions to it, and how they feel it portrays them and their interactions on this touchy but important subject. Press play here to listen.
Stream the film now at CampoloFilm.com.
It's here! For all of you who have been waiting patiently to see the documentary film Leaving My Father's Faith – capturing Bart's conversation with his dad Tony Campolo on the subject of his leaving Christianity – the film is streaming now on Amazon Prime Video and Vimeo On Demand.
This week's episode is a chat between Bart, Tony via phone and John Wright, the director of the new film. They reflect on the release of the film, what it captures, reactions to it, and how they feel it portrays them and their interactions on this touchy but important subject. Press play here to listen.
Stream the film now at CampoloFilm.com.
Daniel Bogard is a Jewish rabbi who’s passionate about building bridges across faith and cultural borders. He’s also a deep thinking, warm feeling, easy talking person with whom Bart has a terrific conversation about, well…a whole bunch of stuff.
You can follow him on Twitter @ravbogard .
If you enjoy the Humanize Me podcast and would like to help support it as well as Bart's work, you can donate at Bart's PayPal page or you can become a monthly Patreon patron.
Daniel Bogard is a Jewish rabbi who’s passionate about building bridges across faith and cultural borders. He’s also a deep thinking, warm feeling, easy talking person with whom Bart has a terrific conversation about, well…a whole bunch of stuff.
You can follow him on Twitter @ravbogard .
If you enjoy the Humanize Me podcast and would like to help support it as well as Bart's work, you can donate at Bart's PayPal page or you can become a monthly Patreon patron.
Jennifer Wright-Berryman is a suicidologist in the School of Social Work at the University of Cincinnati and is currently the lead researcher for a peer-to-peer, school-based program called Hope Squad. Jennifer is an assistant professor at the University of Cincinnati and has a PHD in Social Work from the University of Indiana.
You can find out more about her and her work by going to her website here. And to check out more info on the National Hope Squad program, go here.
Did you know that Bart also does counseling and coaching? For more information, go here.
Ryan Bell is a former pastor who became an atheist after spending a year without God as an experiment. He started and hosts the popular blog and podcast Life After God and is now both the National Organizing Manager for the Secular Student Alliance, as well as the new Humanist Chaplain at the University of Southern California, a position that Bart held before moving back to Cincinnati.
Follow Ryan and his work on Twitter at @ryanjbell.
The documentary about Bart and his father Tony is now available for screenings! You can find out more information here.
What does a real apology look like? What is the difference between remorse and regret? Between saying sorry and asking for forgiveness? In this episode, Bart talks about how to make an authentic apology and shares some stories from his own life that have shaped his own apologies.
You can support Bart, his podcast, and his work by going to his paypal site or by becoming a Patreon patron. Who knows, you might get a mention on the next podcast like the four people in this episode!
What does a real apology look like? What is the difference between remorse and regret? Between saying sorry and asking for forgiveness? In this episode, Bart talks about how to make an authentic apology and shares some stories from his own life that have shaped his own apologies.
You can support Bart, his podcast, and his work by going to his paypal site or by becoming a Patreon patron. Who knows, you might get a mention on the next podcast like the four people in this episode!
Ryan Meeks is the founding pastor of EastLake Community Church outside of Seattle, Washington. A couple of years ago, EastLake became one of the first evangelical megachurches in America to support full inclusion and affirmation of LGBTQ+ people. In the process, Ryan also transitioned out of evangelicalism. The fallout was huge but still hundreds stayed and Ryan shares his story with Bart.
You can find more information about Ryan and his church here.
You can support this podcast and Bart's work by becoming a Patreon supporter here or you can support him through PayPal here.
Sammy Rangel is a transformed man: a former far-right extremist who had a powerful change in his life and is now the Executive Director of Life After Hate, a nonprofit that works with ‘radicalized' individuals in extremist movements and assists them in leaving the movements and reforming their lives (among other things).
Sammy Rangel is a transformed man: a former far-right extremist who had a powerful change in his life and is now the Executive Director of Life After Hate, a nonprofit that works with ‘radicalized' individuals in extremist movements and assists them in leaving the movements and reforming their lives (among other things).
More about Sammy's story can be found HERE. Check out his TED Talk. Oh, and here's his book.
To join the community of Humanize Me listeners, go HERE!
How do men take the natural thoughts and urges they have and channel them appropriately? How do men grapple with their nature, while remaining safe and steadfast for the women in their lives?
Bart takes a look at the issue in this episode, including:
Contact Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact. Join the discussion at the Humanize Me Facebook Group HERE.
Bart tells a story from his days as a Christian evangelist after having been to a storytelling workshop. In this episode he talks about storytelling as one of the most powerful tools that we have, and which binds us together as a tribe.
Bart checks in from Cincinnati, his old neighborhood made new again. Catch up on current happenings, future plans and more.
Bart can be contacted HERE. Join the ‘secret' Facebook group HERE. Add your name to the mailing list for the soon-to-be-released-we-promise documentary HERE.
Jennifer Howd is an author, a developmental editor, and a UCLA-certified mindfulness facilitator. In this episode, Bart and Jennifer talk about her book, her work and how the principles she's developed can help people live a better and more fulfilling life.
Jennifer's website is jenniferhowd.com. Her book can be found HERE.
Brand new: Support this podcast on Patreon HERE!
Megan begins by telling Bart about Death Salon, a knowledge and art project she directs and curates in an attempt to open up conversations and engagement with the subject of death. What is death denial? How has death been sanitized and hidden in popular culture?
Megan begins by telling Bart about Death Salon, a knowledge and art project she directs and curates in an attempt to open up conversations and engagement with the subject of death. What is death denial? How has death been sanitized and hidden in popular culture? What do Megan and Bart both see as [...]
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Kester Brewin is no longer a believer in a God, but holds some "theology" and "Christianity" even so. Bart and Kester have a transatlantic chat about life after belief and how they've both ended up in different places.
How can secular people care for each other when the chips are down? Jason Callahan is the chaplain for the Thomas Palliative Care Unit at VCU Massey Cancer Center in Virginia and instructor for the Departments of Patient Counseling and Pastoral Care at VCU. Jason is a seminary-educated secular chaplain, endorsed by the Humanist Society and nationally board-certified by the Association of Professional Chaplains.
Join other listeners in a little secret enclave of the internet HERE. Get in touch with Bart HERE.
Bart eats some humble pie with an apology he felt compelled to make after the realization that he hasn't always come across the way he intended.
Bart eats some humble pie with an apology he felt compelled to make after the realization that he hasn't always come across the way he intended.
Listener questions abound on this episode, posed in real time by Humanize Me producer John Wright, featuring topics raised on the podcast's top-secret Facebook group (which is totally easy to find HERE).
On this episode: When to come out as an unbeliever to your pastor, what Bart's been reading lately, whether atheists can enjoy worship music, and who to thank for the pleasure of living, among other things.
Have a question that didn't get answered? Leave it in the comments on Facebook HERE and we'll add it to the grab pile for a future episode!
Gleb was involved in starting it. Bart signed up to it. Now, they're both committed to it. What is the Pro-Truth Pledge? How do we separate fact from fiction? And why did a group of scientists come together at this moment in history to do this? Gleb joins Bart for this episode of the podcast to talk about it.
Gleb's website is glebtsipursky.com. The nonprofit behind the pledge is at intentionalinsights.org. The Pro-Truth Pledge can be found at protruthpledge.org.
Stay wonder-full!
Bart chats with Vanessa Zoltan, a research assistant at Harvard Divinity School where she graduated who has been involved with the Humanist Hub at Harvard University and is well-known for her approach to reading books like Harry Potter as a sacred text.
Among the topics covered in this episode:
Being an atheist for solidarity
The power of prayer?
Lectio Divina and Harry Potter
On shared languages and arts
How something like that gets started
Vanessa's project can be found at HarryPotterSacredText.com. Reach Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact. There's also a private Facebook group for members of this community HERE.
Bart chats with Vanessa Zoltan, a research assistant at Harvard Divinity School where she graduated who has been involved with the Humanist Hub at Harvard University and is well-known for her approach to reading books like Harry Potter as a sacred text.
Among the topics covered in this episode:
Vanessa's project can be found at HarryPotterSacredText.com. Reach Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact. There's also a private Facebook group for members of this community HERE.
Bart's son Roman joins him for this chat, recorded on Father's Day, in which they contemplate the nature of 'fathering' and the attributes of an ideal father figure in someone's life. What are the factors that make someone a good mentor? How can fathers establish a reality model for the person they're mentoring [...]
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Like Bart, Drew Bekius is a former Christian minister who stopped believing and left the faith he held for so long. In this episode, Bart and Drew talk about their journey, the view on the other side of faith, the plight of unbelieving clergy, compassion for those in that position and what they're both doing now that they're no longer evangelical pastors.
Drew's website can be found at drewbekius.com. Bart can be reached at bartcampolo.org/contact.
Ex-Mormons. Ex-Scientologists. Ex-Jehovah Witnesses. Ex-Evangelicals. They were all there at sunset at Morris Bird's bi-annual gathering on the beach, cooking ribs and meeting each other. Some had travelled for hours to get there, desperate for community with those like them.
On this episode, Bart chats with Morris about such communities for the benefit of any of you who may be interested in doing something like this yourselves. Email Morris at morrisbird@gmail.com if you'd like to get in touch. Email Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact.
Ex-Mormons. Ex-Scientologists. Ex-Jehovah Witnesses. Ex-Evangelicals. They were all there at sunset at Morris Bird's bi-annual gathering on the beach, cooking ribs and meeting each other. Some had travelled for hours to get there, desperate for community with those like them.
On this episode, Bart chats with Morris about such communities for the benefit of any of you who may be interested in doing something like this yourselves. Email Morris at morrisbird@gmail.com if you'd like to get in touch. Email Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact.
What kind of sex are Americans having? Will the Americans of the future have different sexual values than Americans of the past? What should our sexual values be, anyhow?
Lisa Wade is a world expert – maybe the world expert – on hookup culture among U.S. college students. Her book, American Hookup, details her research into a culture that a growing number of people worry about, a topic which Bart and Lisa discuss candidly in this episode of Bart's podcast.
Lisa's website can be found at lisa-wade.com. The interview she did with Hidden Brain is
Hank Green is a digital creator and content producer with popular YouTube channels such as Vlogbrothers and Crash Course. He reached out to Bart with some interesting thoughts about the digital age and humanism, leading to this podcast in which the two explore things like: Shared values and what helps people flourish Hank's [...]
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In the second podcast intended to help those who want to start their own local secular community, Bart warns against manifestos, vision statements, lists of values and other formalized statements of belief for emerging secular groups.
At the end, we hear a story from Rick Johnston, whose website can be found at rickjohnston.info. This episode is brought to you by the Humanize Me private Facebook group.
In the second podcast intended to help those who want to start their own local secular community, Bart warns against manifestos, vision statements, lists of values and other formalized statements of belief for emerging secular groups.
At the end, we hear a story from Rick Johnston, whose website can be found at rickjohnston.info. This episode is brought to you by the Humanize Me private Facebook group.
Is society going to suffer a collapse from unsustainability worse than the Great Depression sometime in the not-too-distant future? Both Bart and his guest for this episode, self-described ‘apocaloptimist' Michael Dowd, think so.
Michael is an author and speaker who spends a lot of time thinking about the future, and although he's a Reverend from the Christian tradition, his website says, "Reality is my God. Evidence is my scripture. Big History is my creation story. Ecology is my theology. Integrity is my salvation. Ensuring a healthy future is my mission."
So, what's the best way to think about the future of humanity? Listen to the episode for a wide-ranging chat on that. Michael's website is at michaeldowd.org.
Is society going to suffer a collapse from unsustainability worse than the Great Depression sometime in the not-too-distant future? Both Bart and his guest for this episode, self-described ‘apocaloptimist' Michael Dowd, think so.
Michael is an author and speaker who spends a lot of time thinking about the future, and although he's a Reverend from the Christian tradition, his website says, "Reality is my God. Evidence is my scripture. Big History is my creation story. Ecology is my theology. Integrity is my salvation. Ensuring a healthy future is my mission."
So, what's the best way to think about the future of humanity? Listen to the episode for a wide-ranging chat on that. Michael's website is at michaeldowd.org.
Bart talks with former Hollywood jack-of-all-trades turned super-cool master facilitator Jared Seide about Council, an age-old practice that involves bringing people together in a circle for candid and heartfelt conversations. Participants speak one-at-a-time, sharing their personal stories and experiences, rather than opinions, and listen intently while others do the same. Sharing and listening [...]
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Bart talks with former Hollywood jack-of-all-trades turned super-cool master facilitator Jared Seide about Council, an age-old practice that involves bringing people together in a circle for candid and heartfelt conversations. Participants speak one-at-a-time, sharing their personal stories and experiences, rather than opinions, and listen intently while others do the same.
In this episode, Bart talks about taking the first steps to starting your own secular community wherever you are. Consider it a practical guide to the first moves Bart recommends making, and how to talk about it to your friends and family.
A bonus segment at the end focuses on Robert Ingersoll. An interview coming next week! Join the not-so-secret Facebook group for the podcast HERE.
In this episode, Bart shares an email from a listener who called him a "just another liberal do-gooder". Bart responded with kindness at the prompting of a student called Katie, and lessons were learned.
The podcast Bart recommends is HERE. Join the secret listener Facebook group HERE! (Oops.)
A brief update from Bart on the latest going on, including: How he ended up losing all his emails The release of his new book co-authored with Tony Campolo Some new podcasts you can hear Bart on as a guest
A brief update from Bart on the latest going on, including: How he ended up losing all his emails The release of his new book co-authored with Tony Campolo Some new podcasts you can hear Bart on as a guest Go HERE to hear Bart as a guest on The Thinking Atheist with Seth [...]
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Bart doesn't believe in a god. And he's no fan of the new U.S. President, Donald J Trump. So what could he possibly mean by urging people to pray for the president? Find out on this new edition of Humanize Me, wherein Bart begins with an update on what's been happening recently and goes on to talk about the times we find ourselves living in.
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Bart doesn't believe in a god. And he's no fan of the new U.S. President, Donald J Trump. So what could he possibly mean by urging people to pray for the president? Find out on this new edition of Humanize Me, wherein Bart begins with an update on what's been happening recently and goes on to talk about the times we find ourselves living in.
Join other listeners in a private Facebook group HERE!
Bart chats with his friend, the actress Maggie Wheeler, who is a director of the Golden Bridge Community Choir in Los Angeles, where people join together at all levels of singing ability and form a harmonious whole. They explore how singing brings people together and how her choir is actually an exercise in [...]
Bart chats with his friend, the actress Maggie Wheeler, who is a director of the Golden Bridge Community Choir in Los Angeles, where people join together at all levels of singing ability and form a harmonious whole. They explore how singing brings people together and how her choir is actually an exercise in [...]
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A special year-end edition of Humanize Me. Connect with others in the community at the Facebook Group HERE. Happy New Year!
Secular stories: On this episode, Bart chats with his old friend Mark Yaconelli about his latest project, The Hearth Community, gatherings in which people explore, craft, and share stories from what they have lived. They talk about how these gatherings compare to Christian church, how they're different, and what role such things can play in shaping a secular world.
Secular stories: On this episode, Bart chats with his old friend Mark Yaconelli about his latest project, The Hearth Community, gatherings in which people explore, craft, and share stories from what they have lived. They talk about how these gatherings compare to Christian church, how they're different, and what role such things can play in shaping a secular world.
The website for the group Bart mentions in the beginning is HERE. Mark Yaconelli's community site can be found at thehearthcommunity.com. Join the discussion on this episode HERE!
What to do when you've made a mistake. After all, we're all human. Join the community of listeners to this podcast at the Facebook group HERE! Contact Bart HERE.
That's the name of Jim Gilliam's book, wherein he describes his journey out of fundamentalist faith, through serious illness and into internet-facilitated activism and a software company that helps leaders connect with their people. In this episode, Bart chats at length with Jim at his offices in Los Angeles about connected humanity.
That's the name of Jim Gilliam's book, wherein he describes his journey out of fundamentalist faith, through serious illness and into internet-facilitated activism and a software company that helps leaders connect with their people. In this episode, Bart chats at length with Jim at his offices in Los Angeles about connected humanity.
Buy Jim's book HERE. Look at his software, NATIONBUILDER. Join your fellow Humanize Me listeners at the Facebook Group HERE.
How does a secular humanist respond to the election by many of his fellow Americans of a brash, impulsive man who they know deep down doesn’t really care about them? Slowly. Thoughtfully. In this week's episode, Bart reads aloud his careful thoughts on the election of Donald Trump, and advocates an approach which [...]
How does a secular humanist respond to the election by many of his fellow Americans of a brash, impulsive man who they know deep down doesn’t really care about them? Slowly. Thoughtfully. In this week's episode, Bart reads aloud his careful thoughts on the election of Donald Trump, and advocates an approach which [...]
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Like Bart, Katherine Ozment is trying to figure out how best to find meaning, purpose and belonging in a secular age. In this conversation Bart asks her about her journey, which is similar to so many stories we've been hearing recently from the audience of Humanize Me.
Check out Katherine's website at katherineozment.com and grab a copy of her book, Grace Without God. Got some feedback about this episode? Reach Bart at bartcampolo.org/contact or join the Facebook Group HERE.
Like Bart, Katherine Ozment is trying to figure out how best to find meaning, purpose and belonging in a secular age. In this conversation Bart asks her about her journey, which is similar to so many stories we've been hearing recently from the audience of Humanize Me.
Irshad Manji is an author, speaker and founder of the Moral Courage Project, espousing a ‘reformist' interpretation of Islam. She's featured in all kinds of media to speak out when others have wanted to shut her up, and chats with Bart here about a wide range of relevant and interesting subjects. Her books, The Trouble With Islam Today and Allah, Liberty and Love, have been translated into many languages and read around the world.
Irshad's website can be found at irshadmanji.com. Discuss this episode at a burgeoning new Facebook Group called, appropriately enough, Humanize Me. Contact Bart atbartcampolo.org/contact.
Irshad Manji is an author, speaker and founder of the Moral Courage Project, espousing a ‘reformist' interpretation of Islam. She's featured in all kinds of media to speak out when others have wanted to shut her up, and chats with Bart here about a wide range of relevant and interesting subjects. Her books, The Trouble With Islam Today and Allah, Liberty and Love, have been translated into many languages and read around the world.
Last week's episode hit a nerve, or perhaps that should be many nerves. It's late at night in his apartment in Los Angeles and Bart takes a few minutes to touch upon the many responses to the episode with his wife Marty about whether he's being ‘too nice' about Christianity.
For those asking about Robert Ingersoll, Ingersoll the Magnificent by Joseph Lewis can be found HERE for free. Bart also recommends Susan Jacoby’s biography The Great Agnostic HERE.
Also, a new Facebook Group for this podcast can be found HERE. Click ‘Join' to be among the very first to get in on that conversation!
Last week's episode hit a nerve, or perhaps that should be many nerves. It's late at night in his apartment in Los Angeles and Bart takes a few minutes to touch upon the many responses to the episode with his wife Marty about whether he's being ‘too nice' about Christianity.
If it were up to Bart’s wife Marty, the rest of the world probably still wouldn’t know about their deconversion and this podcast wouldn’t exist, so her joining him for this episode is a pretty big deal.
Rather than focusing on their marriage per se, however, Bart and Marty open up to each other about an immediate and excruciating question that every former believer must face sooner or later: How long do we hold our tongues once we realize that what we used to believe – and that many of our loved ones still do – is not just untrue, but also genuinely harmful?
Get in touch with Bart HERE.
If it were up to Bart’s wife Marty, the rest of the world probably still wouldn’t know about their deconversion and this podcast wouldn’t exist, so her joining him for this episode is a pretty big deal.
Rather than focusing on their marriage per se, however, Bart and Marty open up to each other about an immediate and excruciating question that every former believer must face sooner or later: How long do we hold our tongues once we realize that what we used to believe – and that many of our loved ones still do – is not just untrue, but also genuinely harmful?
On this episode of Humanize Me, Bart's friend Peter Montoya talks about his attempts to start a new community of secular ‘freethinkers' from the ground up, how he began with the idea of a real, physical intentional community and didn't get there, and ended up with a large online community to show for it instead. Bart asks Peter about his first attempts at secular community building, what he thinks didn’t work and why, and what the two of them believe to be the factors that set apart real communities from online ones, or from mere ‘events' or ‘meetings'.
On this episode of Humanize Me, Bart's friend Peter Montoya talks about his attempts to start a new community of secular ‘freethinkers' from the ground up, how he began with the idea of a real, physical intentional community and didn't get there, and ended up with a large online community to show for it instead. Bart asks Peter about his first attempts at secular community building, what he thinks didn’t work and why, and what the two of them believe to be the factors that set apart real communities from online ones, or from mere ‘events' or ‘meetings'.
Peter is a marketing expert with a professional website HERE. His online community can be found at NewFreethinkers.org and its Facebook page is HERE. Get in touch with Bart HERE!
Bart talks about the attempt to create a new humanist community, one that listeners of this podcast can be part of. What's the difference between having a group of friends and having a community? Listen to this episode to find out.
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Can documentary filmmaking tell us anything useful about how to live our lives? Are people worth listening to for their own sake? And when is that film about Bart and his dad Tony going to be released? These questions and others came up during Bart's chat with his friend John Wright, the Northern [...]
Can documentary filmmaking tell us anything useful about how to live our lives? Are people worth listening to for their own sake? And when is that film about Bart and his dad Tony going to be released? These questions and others came up during Bart's chat with his friend John Wright, the Northern [...]
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In this episode of Humanize Me, Bart reads a letter from a listener whose wife worked really hard over many months to get a coveted new job, only to have her mother attribute all her success to God instead. Bart responds.
To get in touch with Bart yourself, contact him HERE!
Bart chats with Brian Kateman of the Reducetarian Foundation about his mission to help reduce our meat consumption by encouraging people to simply eat less meat. This exciting new movement is composed of individuals who have committed to eating less red meat, poultry, and seafood, whatever the degree or the motivation. Not everyone is willing to completely eliminate animal products from their diet, so it's an appealing idea and Bart finds much common cause during this conversation.
Included in this episode:
Visit Reducetarian.org for a great intro to the movement. Order Brian's book, the Reducetarian Solution, HERE. Let Bart know what you think of this HERE. Rate us on iTunes please! Thanks and enjoy.
Bart chats with Brian Kateman of the Reducetarian Foundation about his mission to help reduce our meat consumption by encouraging people to simply eat less meat. This exciting new movement is composed of individuals who have committed to eating less red meat, poultry, and seafood, whatever the degree or the motivation. Not everyone is willing to completely eliminate animal products from their diet, so it's an appealing idea and Bart finds much common cause during this conversation.
Included in this episode:
Effective Altruism and how to maximize the efficiency of your philanthropic work
How Brian discovered explanations outside of religious ones, and became secular
Some of the reasons people engage in the ‘reducetarian’ idea, and what the movement is about
The similarities between reducetarianism with respect to eating meat and humanism with respect to religious belief
Why the reducetarian movement is based on what works, rather than more abstract ideas
How people can get involved
Visit Reducetarian.org for a great intro to the movement.
Here's a 20-minute episode from Bart Campolo on how to initiate conversations with people about life after religious belief, even when you live in the Bible Belt. During the episode Bart mentions the Radiolab episode here: From Tree to Shining Tree. Here’s a sample dinner invitation: Dear Jojo, This may seem strange, but for [...]
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Here's a 20-minute episode from Bart Campolo on how to initiate conversations with people about life after religious belief, even when you live in the Bible Belt. During the episode Bart mentions the Radiolab episode here: From Tree to Shining Tree.
Once in a while, we run into people who we have so much in common with, it's an instant connection and leads to a long conversation. This is one such conversation, between two well-known progressive Christian ministers who both stopped believing in God in recent years and left Christianity in public ways. Although [...]
Once in a while, we run into people who we have so much in common with, it's an instant connection and leads to a long conversation. This is one such conversation, between two well-known progressive Christian ministers who both stopped believing in God in recent years and left Christianity in public ways. Although [...]
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Your life is going to end someday. How do you live when you know life is finite? In this clip, Bart Campolo and Hemant Mehta talk about the moments of connection, awareness and sensation that make life worth living to its fullest. It starts with a question by Hemant, recorded for his own podcast last summer: [...]
Your life is going to end someday. How do you live when you know life is finite? In this clip, Bart Campolo and Hemant Mehta talk about the moments of connection, awareness and sensation that make life worth living to its fullest. It starts with a question by Hemant, recorded for his own podcast last summer: [...]
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A listener writes with a problem: she's an atheist but her husband is still a strongly committed Christian who is teaching their kids that, if they don't accept Christianity, they'll go to Hell. What does she do?
Bart gives a response with advice for those in a similar situation: how to communicate, what to communicate about, how to teach respect for religious faith even if one doesn't hold it.
Getting in touch with Bart HERE, or join the conversation on his Facebook page HERE.
Bart tells the story of a recent experience being introduced to a trans student at USC.
The first episode of Humanize Me. Episode numbers are the season followed by the episode: this one is Season 1 Episode 01. Bart introduces the concept of the podcast and what to expect.
The first of Bart's first attempt at starting a podcast: the Wonder-full Podcast (which had a logo based on Wonderbread). First guest: Roman Campolo