Racially Speaking: Recent Episodes
David Phipps
This podcast is dedicated to having real and honest conversations about race as it's viewed through the lenses of Faith, Family, and Vocation. It was created to elevate the voices of BIPOC, and to invite our allies to listen in, learn and grow with us.
Following two weeks of high-level, politcal and religious discourse, David is joined again by pastor Jefferson Jones to discuss loving your neighbor, whether or not it's possible to agree to disagree about everything, and what a legacy of Christian faith looks like.
David is joined by two returning guests, Allana Dye and Vicky Willis, to discuss the possibility of the Department of Education being dismantled. The three also discuss both the historical and current context of why at times Asian and Black solidarity is difficult, and how that can change.
Notes:
First half: Dismantling the Department of Education
Around 40:00 - Black and Asian solidarity
Recommendations:
"We were Liars"
"Sinners"
"The Day You Begin"
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David drops in for a solo episode breaking down the viral video out of Jacksonville, FL showing William McNeil Jr. being assaulted by several police officers.
David breaks down the video, why you should watch it, and what it means for ending police brutality in light of George Floyd five years ago.
Notes:
New York Times
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David is joined by returning guest, Vicky Willis, to discuss the history and implications of birthright citizenship, and what it would mean for it to be removed.
Later, the two discuss what it looks like to engage politically both on and offline.
Recommendations:
“Dreamers” by Yuki Morales
https://www.amazon.com/Dreamers-Yuyi-Morales/dp/0823440559
David drops in for a solo episode in response to several bullying incidents that have taken place in the last couple of weeks concerning children and racial slurs.
David is joined by, artist, rapper, illustrator, and now author, Jefferey Weatherford (AKA Jefferey the Artist), to talk about his new book, what it's been like following in his mother's footsteps, and his calling to inspire the next generation.
Later, the two discuss the importance of hip hop as art, story telling, and culture significance.
David is joined by, artist, rapper, illustrator, and now author, Jefferey Weatherford (AKA Jefferey the Artist), to talk about his new book, what it's been like following in his mother's footsteps, and his calling to inspire the next generation.
Later, the two discuss the importance of hip hop as art, story telling, and culture significance.
"Rap it Up"
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David is joined by friend and professor, Dr. Mark Samudre to have an honest conversation about the implications of rolling back D.E.I. initiatives.
Special Ed. Professor and David's good friend and college roommate, Dr. Mark Samudre, joins the pod to discuss what eliminating D.E.I. and the Education Department would result in. Later, the two friends share their own personal stories when it comes to conversing with people they may disagree with.
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Enjoy a special episode with David and Philadelphia Eagles cheerleader, Elana Horowitz!
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David is joined again by pastor and ministry leader, Jefferson Jones, to discuss their thoughts on the inauguration of President Trump, what it says about Christian morality, and how proximity means everything right now.
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David sat down with friend, Radford University student, college ministry leader, and youth ministry leader, Ethan Bishop, to talk about growing up in a small town lacking diversity, yet ending up living in a thriving multi-ethnic community as an adult in the same town years later.
David and Kaitlyn Phipps discuss the movie musical adaptation of the Broadway Musical, "Wicked," and unpack its most profound themes.
David is joined by ministry leader and pastor, Jefferson Jones, to discuss next week's presidential election, how Christians should or should not engage, and why the Christian political square is what it is today.
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David shares some thoughts on the topic of "friendship" as it relates to justice and reconciliation. Fresh off attending a leadership conference on church planting and "friendship," David dives deep into how "friendship" can be the X factor in moving forward or becoming stuck when it comes to pursuing justice.
David shares some thoughts on both last month's presidential debate, and July 13th's assassination attempt on former President Trump.
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David's wife, Kaitlyn, joins the pod to talk about raising their three biracial kids, their own interracial marriage, and the anniversary of the legalization of interracial marriage.
Notes:
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About Loving Day:
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/loving-day/
Loving Documentary:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4669986/
Jodi Piccoult book:
https://www.amazon.com/Small-Great-Things-Jodi-Picoult/dp/0345544978/ref=asc_df_0345544978/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693409812949&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12842945080232303830&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008741&hvtargid=pla-450865323591&psc=1&mcid=7244f09947ff39b08a1a7821f4f73968&gad_source=1
As they round out AAPI Heritage Month, David is joined by K-6th grade art teacher, photographer, and new mom, Victoria Willis, out of Northern Virginia to discuss being a rare Asian American voice in the public school system, what motherhood has taught her so far, and much more. Vicky also shares what's unique about her Filipina heritage, and how teaching her students how to navigate race conversions has been both challenging as well as life-giving. Notes: Follow Vicky @veryvicky_ Please consider joining our patreon: https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David and John-Mark dissect both what was wrong and what was actually acceptable about Harrison Butker's commencement speech last week. Then the two share their thoughts on Michael Richard's (Kramer from Seinfeld) upcoming memoire amid the fallout from his explicit, racist rant back in 2006. Last, David and John-Mark have a candid conversation on how to discern forgiveness, cancel culture, and accountability in their own lives. Show Notes: 4:50 - Harrison Butker's speech38:14 - Michael Richards' racist rant Please consider joining our patreon: https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David and John-Mark catch up on what's been going on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar, Taylor Swift's, "The Torture Poet's Department," and Beyonce's, "Cowboy Carter." The two breakdown the racial implications of Drake and Kendrick's beef, whether or not Black people like Taylor Swift, and whether or not we give Beyonce enough respect. Show Notes: 7:40 - Drake and Kendrick40:03 - Taylor Swift 122:15 - Beyonce https://time.com/5673476/ken-burns-country-music-black-artists/https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David sits down with pastor, preacher, worship leader, and former wide-receiver, E.L. Smiling, to talk about all the above as it relates to justice. https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeakinghttps://www.amazon.com/Church-Heaven-Cultivating-Multiethnic-Kingdom/dp/1514005387
David sits down with returning guest, friend and pastor, Dr. Vince Oliveri, to discuss whether or not the Bible talks about justice at its core.
Vince is a pastor at The Vine Church in Blacksburg, VA, and recently finished up his PhD at the University of Aberdeen in Scotland.
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David sits down with Radford University's Black Student Alliance officers, I'yonah Cartwright and Dayshawn Perry, to discuss activism on campus and this generation's views on everything from representation to voting.
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David discusses the recent mass shooting that took place at the Kansas City Chief's super bowl parade, and what can and needs to be done about lethal gun culture.https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeakinghttps://www.everytown.org/https://publichealth.jhu.edu/departments/health-policy-and-management/research-and-practice/center-for-gun-violence-solutions
David is joined by friend of the show, Alethea Lamberson, to discuss "race-norming" in the NFL, the history of racism in the league, and whether or not we should hold musical artists accountable for the things the advocate for in their music.
The two discuss Jay-Z's lucrative partnership with the NFL to help combat racism, as well as Taylor Swifts latest Grammy wins, and much, much more.
Show notes:
https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-nfls-racist-race-norming-is-an-afterlife-of-slavery/
https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/8/16/20808892/jay-z-nfl-kaepernick-roc-nation-partnership-inspire-change-criticism
https://www.forbes.com/sites/susanharmeling/2024/01/23/the-politics-of-pop-dei-lessons-from-taylor-swifts-advocacy/?sh=306ac99d75c4
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/blackballed/id1690841575
In our second episode of our "Gen Z on Justice" series, David sits down with Radford University student, Travis Woolard, to hear his perspective on his generation's views on justice, as well as his mutual, life-long admiration for the late Kobe Bryant. The two weave in and out of justice conversation while also reflecting on the fourth anniversary of the passing of Kobe Bryant and his daughter Gianna. https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David gives some brief thoughts on the presidential race and, racially speaking, on what issues stick out. https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David and John-Mark celebrate podcasting for three years and recount why they started the podcast, and where it goes from here.
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David sits down with friend and Radford University student, Nifemi Ayodele, in this first episode of the pod's new "Gen Z on Justice" series, in which the guys will discuss where justice conversations are headed from the perspective of Gen Z-ers themselves. In this episode, Nifemi shares her perspective on how Gen Z is perceived by older generations, what Gen Z has to offer, reasons for hope moving into 2024, and why she thinks it's important to have justice conversations.Check out our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking
David chats with friend, Megan Hilton, about the conflict going on in Israel. The two discuss the different layers to the entire conflict, what's transpired since the HAMAS attack on October 7th, and how we can discuss and help from afar.
Throughout, Megan shares about her experience as a Messianic Jew, and what it's like having close family members living in Israel while this is all going on.
Show Notes:
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6:00 - discussion begins
https://theologyintheraw.com/podcasts/
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/19/israel-apartheid-state-south-africa-netanyahu
David and John-Mark are joined by author, speaker, professor, public theologian, and David's former high school history teacher, Dr. Esau McCaulley, to discuss his new book, "How Far to the Promised Land," as well as much, much more!
The three discuss faith, family, and vocation, as well as how all three intersect with storytelling, forgiveness, and justice.
You can follow Dr. McCaulley and his work at the link below:
https://esaumccaulley.com/
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David and John-Mark have a timely conversation on how to and how to not engage with the news and social media. They begin by sharing some thoughts on the Israel and Palestine conflict, and then discuss how things like "cancel culture" and "reverse-discrimination" affect how we engage with society today. Please join our Patreon where one hundred percent of the profit is put toward action!https://patreon.com/raciallyspeaking?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
David and John-Mark reunite to discuss the racially charged brawl that happened on a boat dock in Montgomery, AL last month, as well as the pervasive nature of Deep South culture that seems to be rearing its head lately.
The two also discuss former Auburn football coach now Alabama State Senator, Tommy Tuberville's, redefining of "white nationalism," and end by discussing Jason Aldean's song, "Try that in a Small Town."
Notes:
11:08 - Montgomery Brawl
In this new episode, David interviews long-time activist and gun safety advocate, Karen Fischer. They discuss everything from the increase in gun violence, to mental health, to social media, to legislation, and end with hope and what can be done. They also discuss the racial implications and how gun violence is affecting communities of color disproportionately.
Show Notes:
Interview with Karen Fischer: 7:10
https://momsdemandaction.org/
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-marks-25-years-since-worst-mass-shooting-2021-04-28/
"American Carnage"
https://www.amazon.com/American-Carnage-Shattering-Myths-Violence/dp/1684812054/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3FH0LAZFP7ENR&keywords=american+carnage&qid=1693447492&sprefix=american+carn%2Caps%2C803&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1
"Fight Like a Mother"
https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Like-Mother-Shannon-Watts-audiobook/dp/B07PJT5G4X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=VP1HO9KDAPUA&keywords=fight+like+a+mother&qid=1693447552&sprefix=Fight+like+a+mother%2Caps%2C261&sr=8-1
Suicide rates:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2013/05/24/suicides-account-for-most-gun-deaths/
David is joined by justice advocate and NYU Psychology Professor, Dr. Lauren Mims, to discuss the SCOTUS's latest decision to strike down affirmative action in higher education. The two discuss what the decision both means and doesn't mean, what most people don't understand about how affirmative action works overall, and how everyone can still do their part to ensure higher education moves toward inclusion and equity.
Dr. Mims also shares more about her career, her time in the White House, and much, much more!
Instagram:
@drlaurenmims
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David and John-Mark finish their discussion on accountability by giving some honest thoughts on where the presidential race might be headed as far as racial issues go.
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David and John-Mark share some honest thoughts and observations on where they see justice conversations heading and why it's problematic.
They also discuss how the church and church leaders, including pastors of color, have an obligation to navigate these conversations responsibly.
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David gives some quick thoughts on Disney's new live action interpretation of "The Little Mermaid."
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David is joined by his friend of fifteen years, Brittany Osborne, for an in-depth conversation on justice and advocacy. Brittany shares how the last three to five years have shaped her views, what changes she's made in her life, and much, much more. Then, Brittany shares about her decision to become a foster parent and opens up about how the overall system is deeply misunderstood, what justice issues inform foster care, and what it takes to get involved.
Show Notes:
7:00 - how advocacy is shaped
34:00- Foster care
"The Body Keeps the Score"
https://www.amazon.com/Body-Keeps-Score-Healing-Trauma/dp/0143127748/ref=sr_1_1?hvadid=616991171471&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9008704&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9817955438492161389&hvtargid=kwd-6817364741&hydadcr=24634_13611738&keywords=the+body+keeps+score&qid=1685625494&sr=8-1
"My Grandmother's Hands"
https://www.amazon.com/My-Grandmothers-Hands-Racialized-Pathway/dp/1942094477/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3P80OT9VLOS5E&keywords=my+grandmother%27s+hands&qid=1685625646&sprefix=my+gran%2Caps%2C127&sr=8-1
"Fostered"
https://www.amazon.com/Fostered-Womans-Powerful-Finding-through/dp/1087750970/ref=sr_1_1?crid=D1WPI8CLO6ZU&keywords=fostered+tori+hope+peterson&qid=1685625691&sprefix=fostered%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-1
"Reframing Foster Care"
https://www.amazon.com/Reframing-Foster-Care-Filtering-Parenting/dp/1625860951/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2MXA6Z4GK4PQM&keywords=reframing+foster+care&qid=1685625744&sprefix=reframing+fos%2Caps%2C133&sr=8-1
"Foster the Family"
https://www.amazon.com/Foster-Family-Encouragement-Practical-Christian/dp/1540901866/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=foster+the+family&qid=1685625784&sprefix=foster+the+%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-1
David discusses the death of NYC street performer, Jordan Neely, and how the same patterns of injustice keep leading to the death of Black and brown bodies. https://www.patreon.com/raciallyspeaking?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator
David and Alethea discuss the end of the NCAA March Madness tournaments, particularly the discussions on trash talking surrounding LSU's, Angel Reese, and Iowa's, Caitlyn Clark. Later, they discuss the history of double standards in how athletes are criticized along racial and gender lines. And, of course they discuss the 2023 NBA playoffs.
David shares some "well-informed, non-expert" thoughts on gun whats happening, or not happening, with gun violence in America.
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https://www.nraila.org/articles/20230320/tennessee-pro-gun-bills-progress-anti-gun-bills-fail
David and John-Mark discuss the implications of Florida's proposed Bill 999, which seeks to eliminate all things DEI on college campuses. They also discuss the recent firing of Dr. Sam Joeckel from Palm Beach Atlantic University, as well as the role Christians should play (or not play) in speaking out about legislation and education.
11: 26 - STOP WOKE ACT and Bill 999
49:16 - The firing of Professor Sam Joeckel from Palm Beach Atlantic
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David is joined by Phd student and UK citizen, Sam Taylor, to discuss his research on Christian Nationalism in America, navigating faith, family, and vocation, as well as his thoughts on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle leaving the Royal family. Royal Family talk around 53:40. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
David is joined again by show-regular, DEI consultant, and cohost of #therolldownpodcast , Alethea Lamberson, to discuss the aftermath of the death of Tyre Nichols. The two also share more honest thoughts and perspective on what this all means for conversations and activism. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
David gives some raw thoughts on the state of justice issues following a month of mass shootings as well as the release of body cam footage of the brutal beating of Tyre Nichols.
David and John-Mark sit down and chat with friend, Erin Worrall, about her calling to "homestead" in Southwest VA, her family's journey with the foster care system, church, and her overall conviction as a white woman to always be an outspoken ally for the marginalized. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Listen to part 2 of the guy's conversation with Alethea Lamberson. In this episode, the three talk about Lecrea's latest album, Church Clothes 4, and what it means for Christians, as well as what's going on with the Georgia Senate runoff between Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker.
The Roll Down Podcast:
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Alethea Lamberson:
@Leath14
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David and John-Mark are joined by former guest and host of the Roll Down Podcast, Alethea Lamberson, to discuss Marvel's Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever. Their entire conversation ended up being almost two hours, so it has been broken up into two episodes! Enjoy all the feels in this one, as the three discuss joy, grief, culture, and entertainment as they unpack Wakanda Forever.
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In this episode, David sits down with good friend, educator, and Baltimore Ravens promoter, Elana Horowitz, to discuss antisemitism in the US, and what it looks like to be an ally to the Jewish community. They also discuss sentiments of anti-Blackness within the Jewish community, antisemitism within the Black community, and how the model minority myth is wider spread than many people think. They also reminisce about Elana's wedding (which David and his wife Kaitlyn photographed earlier this year), and discuss the interconnectedness of Jewish culture to both grief and joy.
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After a last-minute reschedule, David and John-Mark reach into their back pockets to answer questions both submitted by listeners as well as ones they most often come across. If you're looking for a helpful, honest episode on navigating nuance and justice, this one is for you!
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David sits down with Radford University students, Jamori Harris and Dashawn Perry, to discuss their newly established chapter of Iota Phi Theta Fraternity. The three discuss greek life, what it means to be part of a historically Black fraternity, serving their community, as well as debunk some stereotypes. Jamori and Dashawn share their thoughts on how the pandemic has affected their generation and what types of legacies they want to leave behind.
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David and returning guest, Brooke Carroll, break down the racial implications surrounding some of the biggest current events, as well as unpack the ongoing tendency to dehumanize POC across the board.
Show notes:
5:18 - the backlash from The Little Mermaid preview
14:50 - Black Panther
19:35 - Jackson water crisis
30:57 - Bret Favre welfare scandal
42:00 - President Biden pardons simple possession charges
56:30 - Ron DeSantis and the dehumanization of immigrants
1:06:20 - Kanye and white lives matter
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David and John-Mark are joined by author, Dr. Munashe Kaseke, to discuss her recent book, "Send Her Back," and her powerful journey as a Zimbabwean female immigrant. The three not only discuss the powerful stories from Munashe's book, but also how Munashe relates to many of her characters. From immigrating to the US at age 19, to getting her doctoral degree in pharmaceuticals, to putting all that aside to pursue writing, Munashe shares many indispensable takes on how we can all live in better harmony in the midst of a polarized culture.
Show Notes:
6:09 - Interview with Munashe Kaseke
107:22 - Debrief
Links:
https://munashekaseke.com/
https://mukanapress.com/upcoming/
Instagram:
@mu.nashe
Twitter:
@munashe_kaseke
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David sits down with friend, ally, and pastor, Vince Oliveri, to have a much-needed, valuable and vulnerable discussion on allyship, multiethnic church planting, and what it's like navigating both as a white pastor.
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Musical artist, Jon Kabongo returns to the pod to discuss his latest album release, Kendrick Lamar, and the NBA's growing reach.
Spotify and Social Media:
@jon.kabongo
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David and John-Mark exchange thoughts on the aftermath of the shooting at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, TX, as well as unpack several conversations happening in the evangelical world related to racial justice.
Show Notes:
6:08 - Uvalde, gun control
38:45 - how church "should" handle racial justice
1:05:20 - what does "woke" really mean?
David and John-Mark are joined by craft beer connoisseur, and sister to John-Mark, Kara Fritz. Kara is also known as the Hoppy Black Lady on all social media platforms, and is a trailblazer in the food and beverage space as an advocate for diversity and inclusion. Show Notes: 34:30 - the craft beer scene with the Hoppy Black Lady Social Media: @HoppyBlackLady www.marylandroadtrips.com
David, John-Mark, and friend and former guest, Debbie Carlier, engage in a raw conversation following the three racially motivated mass shootings that happened in Buffalo, NY; Dallas, TX; and Laguna Woods, CA from May 11th-May 16th.
Show Notes:
5:12 - Buffalo
26:59 - Gun control. Can we do anything?
35:40 - Taking action
1:00:00 - Replacement theory and is Tucker Carlson endorsing terrorist propaganda?
108:10 - Dallas and Laguna Woods, and the continued rise in anti-Asian sentiment
David and John-Mark play a new game to catch up on current events, John-Mark shares a surprising personal fact, and much more. Later they discuss toxic Christianity, particularly related to the recent release of the documentary, "Hillsong: a Megachurch Exposed," and then spend time unpacking the conflict between Jemar Tisby and Grove City College. Get ready to listen, learn, and grow!
Show Notes:
7:05 - the Oscars
17:05 - Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmed as the first Black woman to be a Supreme Court Justice.
22:50 - Elon Must buys Twitter?
24:32 - War in Ukraine - racism at the borders
28:50 - Hillsong and toxic Christianity
52:00 - Grove City College's mistreatment of Jemar Tisby
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2022/april/grove-city-college-critical-race-theory-crt-jemar-tisby-rep.html
David is joined by musical artist, former college basketball player, and English graduate, Jon Kabongo, to discuss everything from collegiate sports, hip hop, kendrick lamar, academia, and his upcoming album release.
This lengthy conversation is one of our most insightful yet! Jon is not only a master of his craft(s), but a master conversationalist! Check all his stuff out now on Spotify or wherever you get your music!
Show Notes:
43:16 - College athletics versus academics
1:25:30 - Kendrick Lamar meets academia
Social Media:
@jon.kabongo
We are joined by author, speaker, and activist, Michelle Ami Reyes, to discuss cultural competency, bystander training, the importance of navigating Truth and Grace in multi-ethnic church settings, and much more. Michelle is a wealth of knowledge and her voice is indispensable when it comes to engaging with our cultural moment!
Show Notes:
6:35 - Interview starts
9:40 - Death penalty action
17:00 - Bystander training
33:50 - Preaching the Gospel
41:30 - Racial Trauma
Michelle Ami Reyes:
Social Media: @michelleamireyes
Website: https://michelleamireyes.com/
Book: https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-All-Things-Connections-Cultures/dp/0310108918/ref=sr_1_1?crid=BE1EZO2Y8KCY&keywords=becoming+all+things&qid=1648929378&sprefix=becoming+all+thing%2Caps%2C98&sr=8-1
David and John-Mark are joined by Radford University alumnus and current Howard University graduate student, Allana Dye, to discuss all things education. The three discuss cultural differences between navigating predominantly white institutions (PWI) and Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU), as well as the current polarization of secondary education.
Allana is currently working on her Masters in education, and has so much to share about the reality of public education, and sheds honest light on what is and is not happening.
Show Notes:
6:36 - Allana shares why she chose to go into education
29:47 - the impact of having BIPOC professors.
58:55 - hope for moving forward
David and John-Mark spend some time unpacking some of the controversy surrounding popular podcast host, Joe Rogan, and his repeated use of the "N"-word on his show. The two hosts also share their thoughts on both the sentencing of officer Kim Potter, as well as Gregory and Travis McMichael and Roddie Bryan, and what it means for "justice." Last, they end by giving their thoughts on the 2022 Super Bowl Halftime show. Show Notes: 6:24 - Discussion on Joe Rogan 35:17 - Justice, Kim Potter, Gregory and Travis McMichael, and Roddie Bryan. 110:40 - Super Bowl Hafltime Show.
David and John-Mark are joined by justice advocate and podcast host of the Roll Down Podcast, Alethea Lamberson, to have a candid discussion about the false narratives surrounding Critical Race Theory, the injustice of several censorship bills being passed in FL, VA, NH, TX, TN, and much, much more. The crew also details out the dangers of inconsistency when it comes to justice work, and give their takes on the current book banning debates in schools. Last, Alethea and John-Mark share some heartfelt thoughts about the works of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the impacts his work both had and must continue to have for us to progress.
David and former guest, John-Mark Walker, catch up and forecast some new elements coming to the podcast! The two also share what they've been learning and hope to see as we enter into 2022.
Show notes:
"Caste"
https://www.amazon.com/Caste-Origins-Discontents-Isabel-Wilkerson/dp/0593230256
"Permission to be Black"
https://www.amazon.com/Permission-Be-Black-Journey-Jay-Z/dp/0830847278/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3DFF2JSB8UKTY&keywords=permission+to+be+black&qid=1642106686&s=books&sprefix=permission+to+be+black%2Cstripbooks%2C79&sr=1-1
"A Promised Land"
https://www.amazon.com/A-Promised-Land-Obama-Audiobook/dp/B08HGH9JMF/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=a+promised+land+barack+obama&qid=1642106770&s=books&sprefix=a+promise%2Cstripbooks%2C91&sr=1-1
Colin in Black and White
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12624928/
Racially Speaking celebrates episode 20 by having a candid conversation with a very familiar guest.
David sits down with colleague and sociology professor, Dr. Stephanie Bradley, to have one of the most eclectic conversations yet. Dr. Bradley shares how her identity as a white woman informs her teaching philosophies, and why she is so unapologetic with her advocacy for others. Later, the two go down several hip hop deep dives, as well as swap perspectives on the relationship Christianity has with social justice.
Show Notes: "Caste" https://www.amazon.com/Caste-Origins-Discontents-Isabel-Wilkerson/dp/0593230256
"How to be Antiracist" https://www.amazon.com/How-Be-Antiracist-Ibram-Kendi/dp/0525509283/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34ONZYP5CZ9JG&dchild=1&keywords=how+to+be+antiracist&qid=1635909686&qsid=134-8810352-9037445&s=books&sprefix=how+to+be+anti%2Cstripbooks%2C173&sr=1-1&sres=0525509283%2CB08M2BKBR5%2C1952663326%2CB08BDRJ5J4%2C1689012056%2CB08HVF1FLT%2CB08VLVZ4W9%2CB08B2V6Y3N%2CB09CRQFNPQ%2CB086V1NJSF%2C9124030953%2C180132378X%2C059324253X%2C0711245215%2C1568585985%2CB08GFVLDZZ&srpt=ABIS_BOOK
"White Fragility" https://www.amazon.com/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0807047414/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=white+fragility&qid=1635909876&qsid=134-8810352-9037445&s=books&sr=1-1&sres=0807047414%2CB08TZ1MSQH%2CB0915M7LNR%2CB089TWSD4X%2CB07KPQKWP2%2CB08DSYQ5TZ%2C0807074128%2C0593230574%2CB08KFHWXYL%2C1728209803%2CB084GHDG4L%2C1513807668%2C0525509283%2C147585773X%2C1541700430%2CB07SPH223P&srpt=ABIS_BOOK
800 Degrees Wood Fired Pizza https://www.facebook.com/800-Degrees-Wood-Fired-Pizza-802722376589168/
@hiphopexlab https://www.instagram.com/hiphopexlab/
@vtditc hip hop studies https://www.instagram.com/vtditc/
David discusses mental health and the systemic issues that pervade the criminal justice system with long-time friend and mental health corrections counselor, Brooke Carroll. Brooke also shares her personal experiences with assimilation and navigating her bi-racial identity as well as raising her beautiful daughter.
Show Notes:
"His Testimonies My Heritage” https://www.amazon.com/His-Testimonies-My-Heritage-Women/dp/1784983756
"When they See Us" https://www.netflix.com/title/80200549
"13th" https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741
"Fruitvale Station" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334649/
David discusses all things Shang Chi, Marvel Studio’s latest super hero movie, with two familiar guests.
David catches up with co-host of The Roll Down Podcast over on the Chasing Justice Podcast Network to debrief about some of stories that circulated during the Tokyo Olympics. The two also discuss the current rise in mental health awareness for prominent athletes, and why it's imperative to confront double standards.
"Untold Documentary" https://www.netflix.com/title/81026439
"Naomi Osaka Documentary" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZRls7B7uzY
David catches up with artist, designer, business owner, and advocate, Ashley Bush, to discuss the importance of confronting and dismantling white supremacist ideologies in our individual lives. Show Notes: "Hair Love" https://www.amazon.com/Hair-Love-Matthew-Cherry/dp/0525553363
"Eyes that Kiss in the Corners" https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-That-Kiss-Corners-Joanna-ebook/dp/B08FKB8ZWX/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UU0C1E2806MM&dchild=1&keywords=eyes+that+kiss+in+the+corners&qid=1627854549&s=books&sprefix=eyes%2Cstripbooks%2C199&sr=1-1
"The Friend who Forgives" by Trillia Newbell https://www.amazon.com/Eyes-That-Kiss-Corners-Joanna-ebook/dp/B08FKB8ZWX/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UU0C1E2806MM&dchild=1&keywords=eyes+that+kiss+in+the+corners&qid=1627854549&s=books&sprefix=eyes%2Cstripbooks%2C199&sr=1-1
"God's Very Good Idea" https://www.amazon.com/Gods-Very-Good-Idea-Delightfully/dp/1784982210/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=trillia+newbell&qid=1627854621&s=books&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFJTTczNFk1VDhNVksmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA5ODc1NzE4NVpSTjdJWERZRkgmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDQxODYxNVFMSURORUZJNU5RUCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
PBS on the Black Church https://www.pbs.org/show/black-church/
David sits down with friend and racial justice advocate, Tabitha Morales, to discuss caring and advocating for POC within a large, Christian, non-profit context, as well as what the last four years have been like to navigate as part of the Latino community. Tabitha also shares her personal connections to the recent movie "In the Heights" as a "NewYoRican," and David and Tabitha unpack the pervasive nature of the term "Colorism." Show Notes: "His Testimonies My Heritage" https://www.amazon.com/His-Testimonies-My-Heritage-Women/dp/1784983756
"Being Latino in Christ" https://www.amazon.com/Being-Latino-Christ-Wholeness-Identity/dp/0830823743
David talks with photographer, business owner, and justice advocate, Amanda Hedgepeth about her unapologetic advocacy for BIPOC, as well as her passion for raising her three young daughters to be life-long allies. They also touch on where the creative industry is at, overall, with its advocacy, as well as how we can all do better as human beings.
Show Notes: https://brenebrown.com/
Ruby Bridges Movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD79F7HGSgA
Instagram: @amandahedgepeth @homelesslookslike @fivewavesshop
David talks with friend and non-profit Cross-Cultural Training Coordinator, John-Mark Walker, about the essential need for cultural competency and historical perspective when it comes to racism, power, and how Christianity is taught. John-Mark shares several brilliant recommendations for resources, some personal advice for David, as well as how reading Esau McCaulley's "Reading While Black" has impacted his own journey. Lastly, David and John-Mark share some back and forth about both their disappointments and passions for the Christians to responsibly address and engage in conversations about racial injustice.
Show Notes: "Caste" by Isabel Wilkerson https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593230256?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details
"Reading While Black" by Esau McCaulley https://www.amazon.com/Reading-While-Black-American-Interpretation/dp/083085486X/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1A7VZJGVBGU6L&dchild=1&keywords=reading+while+black+esau+mccaulley&qid=1624557421&s=books&sprefix=reading+whi%2Cstripbooks%2C171&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRU1OR1JPSkFaSDhBJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjEzMDIwV1hNRlBZVEFMOEtVJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAzNzg2MTYyWjlEQTM0WERWM1JVJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
"The Fire Next Time" by James Baldwin https://www.amazon.com/Fire-Next-Time-James-Baldwin/dp/067974472X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+fire+next+time&qid=1624557507&s=books&sr=1-1
"The Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass" https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Frederick-Douglass-Fourth-Speech/dp/1952433606/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2HZCFHIGS3ITR&dchild=1&keywords=the+life+of+frederick+douglass&qid=1624557546&s=books&sprefix=the+life+of+fred%2Cstripbooks%2C168&sr=1-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQTM4MUFJV1Q0MTJLJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzE2MzQ1OFVVSTlENjRHQktQJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0MTEwODYzQUdSMk04UkVYVkxSJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
"In the Heights" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5pTICZ2oeg
David catches up with old friend and coach, David Johnson (DJ). DJ is a former Hampton University Men's Basketball standout, former professional overseas baller, and is currently a coach and professional basketball skills developer residing in Charlotte, N.C. In this conversation, David and DJ touch on the NCAA, HBCUs, women's basketball, and what overall advocacy for racial justice needs to look like for anything to change. DJ also shares some of his raw thoughts on the failures of the church when it comes to advocating for the BIPOC community.
For the tenth episode of the pod, David is joined by wedding photographer, college campus minister, momma of two, and his wife, Kaitlyn Phipps. The two of them have some honest back and forth as they delve into interracial marriage, raising their kids, and what role white people have in conversations about racial justice. Later, they recall a couple of weddings that they've photographed together that had huge impacts on their cultural perspectives, as well as discuss the need for white people to stay engaged and outspoken. Finally, they finish with recommendations as well as another set of (surprise) "Rapid Fire" questions!
Show Notes: "Small Great Things" https://www.amazon.com/Small-Great-Things-Jodi-Picoult/dp/0345544951
"The Hate U Give" https://www.amazon.com/Hate-U-Give-Angie-Thomas/dp/0062498533
Little Fires Everywhere https://www.hulu.com/series/little-fires-everywhere-bce24897-1a74-48a3-95e8-6cdd530dde4c
"All You Can Ever Know" https://www.amazon.com/All-You-Can-Ever-Know/dp/1936787970
David sits down with podcast host of The Roll Down Podcast, former college basketball player and fierce advocate for racial justice, Alethea Lamberson, to discuss the current culture of prominent athletes using their platforms to speak up about racial justice, what needs to change to bridge inequities between women's and men's sports, and so, so much more! Alethea also shares some of her raw thoughts on what the verdict of the Derek Chauvin trial means for our country, and David hits Alethea with another set of rapid fire sports questions.
Show Notes: Jesse Owens Movie: Race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E31LnSw47xo
Malcolm X Biography: https://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-Malcolm-Told-Alex-Haley/dp/0345350685
"Reading While Black by Esau McCaulley https://www.amazon.com/Reading-While-Black-American-Interpretation/dp/083085486X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2TW9TYK8V93BU&dchild=1&keywords=reading+while+black+esau+mccaulley&qid=1619787081&sprefix=reading+while+black%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-3
"How To Right Racism" by Jemar Tisby https://www.amazon.com/How-Fight-Racism-Courageous-Christianity/dp/0310104777/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=How+to+fight+racism&qid=1619787124&sr=8-1
"The Color of Compromise" by Jemar Tisby https://www.amazon.com/Color-Compromise-American-Churchs-Complicity/dp/0310113601/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1GVOCVA3KLEEI&dchild=1&keywords=color+of+compromise&qid=1619787160&sprefix=color+of+comp%2Caps%2C167&sr=8-1
"The Cross and the Lynching Tree" https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Lynching-Tree-James-Cone/dp/1626980055/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20G60BDMGLEDC&dchild=1&keywords=the+cross+and+the+lynching+tree&qid=1619787223&sprefix=the+cross+and+%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-1
"Bread for the Resistance" https://www.amazon.com/Bread-Resistance-Devotions-Justice-People/dp/0830843965/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1KM7UDJ0JBP6W&dchild=1&keywords=bread+for+the+resistance+forty+devotions+for+justice+people&qid=1619787280&sprefix=bread+for+the+resist%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3
David catches up with high school teammate, 2x NBA Champion, former UNC Tar Heel, and professional basketball player, James Michael Ray McAdoo. The two discuss everything from navigating their predominantly white high school, their interracial families, to choppin it up with some NBA talk. James also shares about his journey understanding his identity as a Black male, and how he's grown as he's learned how to use his large platform.
David and Debbie meet up again to further discuss the continual rise in anti-Asian sentiment in the United States. They follow up on many of the conversations they started two episodes ago, and specifically share some vulnerable thoughts on the March 16th massacre in Atlanta, GA, in which eight people, six of whom were Asian women, were shot and killed at three separate Asian-owned businesses. Debbie also shares some of the work she's doing locally, updates us on conversations she's had with her daughters, and gives some raw thoughts on how the church and our white allies can step up.
Show Notes: 9-man Volleyball http://www.9-man.com/
The Farewell: https://a24films.com/films/the-farewell
LA Times article: https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2021-04-06/mispronouncing-asian-names-racism-ovation-awards
Trevor Noah Celebrating Asian Voices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWi8wo74BBM
David catches up with one of his former college classmates/roommate, Mark Samudre, to discuss navigating the current political and racially-tense climate as a person of color. Mark also shares about his overall identity as an Indian American male, particularly as it relates to his journey through academia, being new to fatherhood, his involvement with the Church, and so, so much more. SHOW NOTES: Asian Enough: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/asian-enough/id1501446978
13th Documentary https://youtu.be/krfcq5pF8u8
Desi American Life https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/desi-american-life/id1423245565
Brandy Cinderella: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128996/
The New Jim Crow: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+new+jim+crow&crid=2YU3Z6S647K8G&sprefix=the+new+jim+%2Caps%2C292&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_12
David catches up with acquaintance and new friend, Debbie Carlier, to discuss their different upbringings as Asian Americans. They discuss how we should be addressing the sudden rise in Anti-Asian racism and violent attacks on Asian Americans in the US, as well as why it's so important to understand our history. Show Notes: Minari Movie: https://a24films.com/films/minari
Raya and the Last Dragon: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5109280/
Crash Landing on You: https://www.netflix.com/title/81159258
Always Be My Maybe: https://www.netflix.com/title/80202874
https://stopaapihate.org/
https://www.asianamericanchristiancollaborative.com/
"The Origins of Others" by Toni Morrison: https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Others-Charles-Norton-Lectures/dp/0674976452
"All You Can Ever Know" by Nicole Chung: https://www.amazon.com/All-You-Can-Ever-Know/dp/1948226375/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=all+you+can+ever+know&qid=1615152344&s=books&sr=1-1
David catches up with friend and musical artist, Dylan Dent, to discuss his latest projects, the state of the Hip Hop industry, and the importance of understanding the "origins" of the overall genre.
Show notes: We Are Art Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubwMhsQetoI
Rapsody: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6NL31G53xThQXkFs7lDpL5
Taye the Truth on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5XFX313ckxPKspjiE3Ppn4?si=C1TmPg9zThCgHRg2nQD2_Q
Harvest Blaque Music: https://soundcloud.com/harvest-blaque
Dylan Dent: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4TPdQyHsFPdBcv7GN5iFRX
Blindspotting Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-HBqVbtTo
The Evolution of Hip Hop Series Season 2 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Rs15Fjwo4
Dissect Podcast: https://dissectpodcast.com/
David is joined by worship leader, mother of five, sting ray wound survivor, and life-long friend, Christy Miller, to discuss her uncommon path to motherhood. Christy and her husband Daniel, both white, have always considered themselves advocates for justice, but David and Christy discuss how their journey to parenthood has given all of that new and welcomed meaning. Show notes: Harvard implicit bias test https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html
Virtual Conference: https://www.missioalliance.org
https://ssekodesigns.com/
Cover Art by: https://www.ashbush.com/
Dylan Dent on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4TPdQyHsFPdBcv7GN5iFRX
David and Zach are back, and they are discussing all things “Representation.”They share some personal thoughts on what the Inauguration of Vice President Kamala Harris means to them, as well as share some helpful insight into the difficulties of finding dolls for their daughters that aren't... White. And, as always, they end with sharing their latest recommendations for resources to check out as you continue to learn and grow! Show notes: https://www.chrisbuck.com/conceptual
David catches up with close friend and 3D artist, Zach Bush, to discuss the importance of "Proximity" in all facets of life as it relates to racial justice. They share personal examples that have led them to speak out and advocate for a better understanding of the overall concept, and Zach shares why he felt the call to move to another state in the middle of a pandemic. Last, although they had planned to discuss something a little more light-hearted to kick off the podcast, they felt it was important to discuss what happened at the Capitol Building in Washington D.C. on January 6th, and to share how it's personally impacted them.