Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.
[00:00] - Intro
[01:03] - Self Awareness
[05:46] - Why I chose to join Pool Brain
[08:47] - Addressing our industry's turnover problem
[14:19] - Motivation when changing companies
[17:57] - What I'll be doing at Pool Brain
[20:48] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:15] - What are parasites?
[07:04] - How to kill parasites, and debunking myths
[11:24] - The 2026 Cyclospora outbreak
[22:06] - Comparing food-borne illnesses and severity
[30:20] - Eric's near-death Cyclospora experience
[33:04] - Cryptosporidium
[37:58] - Best practices
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:01] - How acid lowers pH
[03:14] - Hypochlorite chlorines
[04:20] - How hypochlorites are made
[06:20] - Chlorines leave behind muriatic acid in water
[07:28] - Excess hydroxides
[09:50] - What can be done to limit the alkalinity rise?
[12:01] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:27] - David's background
[05:38] - Better Understanding CO2
[10:12] - Runaway TA on CO2 Pools
[15:25] - Why CO2 tanks freeze
[19:11] - Total Dissolved Solids (TDS)
[27:17] - What was the TDS limit pre-2005?
[28:28] - Mutual friends with Richard Falk
[32:01] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[00:51] - Researching alkalinity since 2016
[05:27] - CYA contributes to TA, so does acid reduce CYA?
[07:09] - Acid vs. Bicarbonate Reaction
[09:08] - Sodium and Chlorides are Spectator ions
[12:10] - Does acid burn through Cyanurate Alkalinity too?
[15:04] - What about chlorinated isocyanurates?
[17:20] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[00:38] - Bill's background
[07:27] - Expanding education and manufacturing capabilities
[14:44] - Clearance for fiberglass pool installation
[17:28] - How to become a fiberglass pool installer
[24:03] - Researching fiberglass "chalking"
[31:36] - Selflessness
[34:09] - Chalking looks like calcium silicate bound to to gelcoat polymers
[37:40] - The LSI, and chelating calcium
[40:04] - Gelcoat molecular structure
[46:15] - Thursday Pools' chemistry recommendations
[52:49] - One chemistry strategy that gets everyone's needs met
[57:00] - UV systems impact fiberglass chalking?!
[1:01:39] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:44] - Wójtowicz Update to the LSI Formula
[04:21] - Dr. Langelier's Original Index Formula
[05:56] - What water wants vs. What air wants
[08:18] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[02:38] - S2211 - Unit A, part 2
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:00] - What is natural stone?
[02:42] - Calcite is a dense form of calcium carbonate
[06:24] - Aggressive water seeks calcium, even in natural stone
[08:04] - Other natural stones that contain calcium
[11:22] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:50] - Matt Mueller's Background
[08:49] - Issues that Led to Reverse Osmosis
[11:03] - Draining and Refilling Depends on Tap Water Chemistry
[12:33] - The RO Process
[17:17] - The RO Experience, from a Customer's Perspective
[21:34] - Is Dilution the Solution to Pollution?
[23:14] - Density Stratification
[29:36] - How Low Should You Go?
[34:32] - What is Osmosis?
[36:09] - Is it Drinking Water Safe?
[37:27] - Flow Rates
[39:00] - How Much Does RO Filtration Cost?
[41:19] - Biofouling
[46:06] - What Can Be Removed from Water?
[47:10] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:10] - Degrees of Chlorine Exposure
[03:51] - Our Bodies Produce Chlorine
[08:16] - Drinking Water is Chlorinated
[10:27] - Combined Chlorine and other Disinfection Byproducts (DBPs)
[16:07] - Prolonged Exposure to Chloramines and Bacteria
[23:28] - Is Swimmer's Ear an RWI?
[27:03] - Disinfection Contact Times (CT) and Cleaning Agents
[28:13] - Organic and Inorganic Chloramines
[30:09] - Chemistry by Committee
[39:43] - Our Industry Lacks Academic Research
[42:20] - CMAHC
[44:21] - Back to Bather Comfort and Irritation
[47:55] - Signs of Trouble
[50:00] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[00:55] - I remember when AI came out
[03:03] - An uncertain future
[04:23] - AI recognizes AI
[06:24] - Truth and reality are blurred now
[07:26] - The Trades are the future
[09:07] - Humanity must prevail
[10:46] - Mass disruption
[12:05] - Automation is already here
[14:27] - Closing
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00:00] - Intro
[00:36] - Adjusted Alkalinity on a Pool Store Printout
[01:34] - Adjusted Alkalinity = Carbonate Alkalinity
[03:10] - Cyanurate and Borate also contribute to Total Alkalinity
[04:42] - Increasing CYA increases TA. About 1/3 of CYA is Cyanurate Alkalinity
[06:14] - Is Adjusted Alkalinity the "Real" Alkalinity?
[07:37] - One Breath Summary
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00:00] - Intro
[02:20] - Davis Tarwater's background
[08:24] - Water quality challenges
[18:20] - Swimmer irritation
[24:31] - Embrace the pH rise and plan for it
[26:56] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:43] - New Baby and 2026 Goals
[05:44] - Service 2211 has been recorded, and will soon be online
[07:48] - 2026: A Building Year for Watershape U
[09:01] - Watershape U = Education + Reinforcement and Networking
[12:10] - The new WU Service Track
[13:33] - Upcoming WU Classes at Shows
[20:20] - Closing
[21:27] - Service 2211: Essential Water Chemistry - Unit A, Part 1
[24:49] - Learning Outcomes and Introduction
[27:13] - A.1 Hydrolysis, Saturation and Solubility
[31:51] - A.2 Water Chemistry Ranges
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[00:00] - Intro
[00:33] - Pool industry lifers
[07:25] - How pools are winterized in the Northeast
[11:51] - How cold is too cold to plaster?
[16:50] - Calcium chloride in the plaster mix
[22:06] - Freeze damage protection
[27:40] - Dilution's impact on the LSI during the winter
[33:51] - Testing fill water, and smart winterizing
[36:10] - Company culture of learning
[45:21] - Scale vs. calcium crystals
[52:50] - Accountability
[1:00:40] - Water and air physics
[1:10:38] - Closing
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[00:00] - Preface - Education Vacation Recap
[03:10] - Actual Introduction
[09:13] - New WU Class - C3291: Reinforced PVC Membrane Workshop
[14:35] - PVC membranes in cold climates
[16:33] - Installation and costs
[30:46] - Closing
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:12] - Introducing Rocco Russo
[06:15] - AI Displacement vs. Tribal Knowledge
[08:49] - 2025 Trainer of the Year
[20:50] - What to expect from S1311: Essential Pool Equipment - The Core Four
[33:44] - Closing
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[00:00] - Introducing Jimmy Reed
[07:58] - Weeks of precise prep work before tile goes in
[12:12] - The challenge is the point.
[13:46] - The Art and Science of Tile Work
[15:23] - C2611: Essential Tile Workshop
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[00:00] - Intro
[01:32] - Introducing Tempool
[04:33] - Common denominator lately: Residue
[06:21] - Easily distorted mix ratios
[23:22] - Rock-to-Rock Pebble Finish Exposure
[24:54] - Standardizing Systems
[26:50] - Exposure problems and Hot starts
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[00:00] - Introducing Charles Hanskat, P.E.
[01:26] - Shotcrete History
[06:39] - Shotcrete depends on velocity for compaction
[09:44] - Wet mix vs. Dry mix. What's right for you?
[11:38] - Water, Cement, and Time
[15:39] - Slump
[17:58] - Compressive strength
[19:46] - Aggregates
[21:25] - Standards and Minimums
[24:36] - Shrinkage and Cracks
[32:10] - Ideal conditions and Curing
[39:21] - Weepers
[42:29] - WU and ASA Shotcrete Certifications
[46:15] - Closing
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[00:00] - Introducing Bryan Lundquist
[02:15] - Swimming Talk
[15:48] - Cloudy water, from a swimmer's perspective
[20:53] - Changing expectations of water quality
[27:09] - ChloramineConsulting.com
[29:33] - Showering before swimming, and not peeing in the pool
[36:27] - Swimming in natural water (a lake)
[40:24] - Unqualified Pool Advice
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[00:00] - Intro
[00:58] - To pool professionals.
[05:41] - To you, the individual listener.
[08:47] - To the industry in general.
[11:28] - To homeowners.
[18:30] - To me.
[21:20] - Upcoming education events.
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You asked for more podcasts and great information. But instead, we brought Eric back.
The new email address is ruleyourpool@gmail.com.
Show notes optional.
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Thank you to all of you who have listened to this podcast over the years. You are greatly appreciated, and I hope you found value in what you learned here. It has been an honor.
-- Eric
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00:00 - Introduction
01:21 - Halogens on the Periodic Table of Elements
02:48 - Valence states
06:17 - Chlorides and stainless steel
09:44 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:07 - Close to home
05:37 - Worse smoke and ash than forest fires
11:37 - our condolences
14:00 - How we are going to help
21:39 - Closing
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Our deepest condolences to all affected by these fires. These hit close to home, as so many of our customers and HASA employees have been evacuated, and many of whom have lost everything. Our prayers are with you.
We are here to support you however we can, so please do not hesitate to call your local HASA rep if you need someone to talk to.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:52 - Jim Lauria and Mazzei
07:53 - Leonardo da Vinci and water
11:46 - Podcast: Water We Talking About?
15:14 - The Blue Mind - Wallace J. Nichols
20:13 - Water must be coaxed.
23:10 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Non-LSI causes of corrosion
03:34 - Scenario 1: Chasing pH and range chemistry
09:05 - Acid abuse vs. containing pH
10:15 - Pouring undiluted acid can scale heaters?
13:06 - Scenario 2: Stray current / electrochemical corrosion
15:51 - Closing
16:27 - Watershape University - Service 1211: Essential Water Chemistry Class
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00:00 - Reminder: Watershape University Service 1211: Essential Water Chemistry class (8-hour certification)
04:50 - What is corrosion?
09:23 - Moisture, Condensation, and Corrosion
14:39- Metallurgist's explanation of corrosion
16:43 - What types of metals corrode?
23:48 - Residential pool corrosion
25:17 - Bonding against stray current
30:05 - Black flakes in the pool
31:44 - How to fix and prevent corrosion
35:07 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
00:12 - New Watershape University Class: Service 1211 - Essential Water Chemistry
05:42 - One big question each year
08:59 - Constant 1: Water will always return to its natural state
09:44 - Constant 2: Henry's Law
10:37 - Constant 3: Gravity
12:49 - Example of all three constants in one pool
19:59 - The three constants are eternal
21:52 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
00:49 - What is TenJam?
04:08 - Water inside pool furniture
07:33 - Why scum lines and calcium scale forms on pool furniture
14:46 -Clean up and prevention
21:41 - Closing
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01:05 - Teresa Berry
05:29 - The origins of PaythePoolman
08:19 - Problems addressed
11:35 - What constants can you rely on?
25:05 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:03 - Hurricane Helene
07:14 - How much rain and flooding?
09:06 - Gravity is a constant
12:44 - Pools are just domesticated water
15:21 - Don't fight water.
16:53 - Announcing WU 1211: Basic Water Chemistry
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00:00 - Introduction
02:27 - Testing frequency
05:11 - Melamine reagent for CYA testing
08:32 - Diluting the sample
13:32 - More testing precision at low CYA levels
17:51 - The future of CYA testing
21:17 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
02:15 - Credit to whom it is owed
03:14 - What is calcium phosphate?
08:42 - Formula for calcium phosphate precipitation
14:34 - Lab results (thanks Que Hales!)
16:05 - How to identify and prevent calcium phosphate scale
19:43 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
02:29 - Three most profitable tools for pools
06:16 - Dry scoop vs. Liquid measuring cup
09:56 - Product percentages
12:59 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
05:09 - Previous winterization podcast episodes
06:22 - WHY do we winterize the Orenda way?
07:44 - Three winterization fundamentals
08:16 - Mechanical and physical closing processes
11:18 - Water quality over winter
14:14 - Closing kits
16:26 - Our recommended closing chemicals
18:24 - Water balance over winter
24:15 - Vinyl liner and fiberglass winter damage
25:35 - Pool cover types matter
27:13 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:08 - Non-chlorine alternatives
03:06 - Disinfection and sanitization (5 and 3-log reductions)
05:16 - Affinity
07:49 - Oxidation
09:21 - What is non-chlorine shock?
12:06 - Non-chlorine shock vs. combined chlorine?
16:01 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:18 - Soap
06:02 - Water temperature, soft water, and foam
12:11 - Defoamer products
17:16 - Proactive foam management: enzymes and chitosan
24:14 - When to drain and refill a spa
27:24 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:27 - Unpredictable bather load? Get back to basics.
03:05 - Back to the Four Pillars
04:12 - Four Pillars Action Steps
08:31 - We don't know what happens in these pools
10:17 - Rapidly changing water temperature
14:49 - Pool/Spa Combos
16:22 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - Why pool covers change pool chemistry
03:09 - Rain and snow dilution
03:48 - Auto-covers and plaster issues
05:00 - Salt chlorine generators and covered pools
09:11 - Breathable pool covers?
10:08 - Trichlor feeders on pools with autocovers
12:55 - Creative ways to off-gas CO2 from a covered pool
14:43 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
00:58 - Saharan dust research
02:07 - What is Saharan dust?
03:15 - Why Saharan dust is important to our global ecosystem
07:20 - How Saharan dust impacts swimming pools
08:23 - Saharan dust is similar to wildfires and Haboob dust storms
10:11 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:29 - LaMotte integration with 601 discs
04:41 - App login vs. Orenda Academy login
06:28 - Watershape University course
06:55 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:01 - Why Dr. Fields contacted us
04:58 - Indoor pools and HVAC design
09:59 - What are weezing and asthma?
14:25 - Medications for breathing issues
20:22 - What is a pulmonologist?
22:37 - Explaining chloramines and the pool smell
32:13 - Contamination Sources
34:56 - Blood and water chemistry
42:55 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:30 - Using chlorine vs. Losing chlorine
06:42 - UV degradation (photolysis) of chlorine
08:11 - Electromagnetic radiation and light from the Sun
11:10 - Low and medium pressure UV disinfection systems
14:32 - Fluence (focused intensity)
17:54 - How sunlight destroys chlorine
19:49 - Minimal CYA is necessary
23:59 - Summary
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00:00 - Introduction
02:06 - Rowdy Gaines, from swimming to broadcasting
04:56 - The evolution of competitive swimming
16:18 - 2024 Olympic Trials
22:37 - Water and air quality in pools
28:43 - Step Into Swim foundation
35:41 - Game: Unqualified Answers
45:57 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:23 - What's new in the Orenda App version 5.0?
05:43 - LaMotte SpinTouch integration
13:43 - The new Chemical Calculator
17:08 - Login is required for these new features
22:07 - Demonstrating the new Chemical Calculator
27:08 - The website Orenda Calculator™
30:35 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
02:10 - Dr. Paul Cagle, shoulder surgeon
06:02 - Scenario: lifting heavy buckets in and out of a pickup truck bed
11:32 - Protecting your back muscles
17:27 - Preventative strengthening exercises
21:06 - Most common shoulder injuries that lead to surgery
25:47 - Brushing a pool safely
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00:00 - Introduction
02:20 - Updating bicarbonate's pKa from 6.14 to 6.27
08:24 - Orenda app integration with a test kit
08:51 - The new calculator
15:02 - Account login
16:37 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
05:50 - Does the Orenda Calculator™ adjust alkalinity for CYA?
09:44 - pH buffering system: acids and conjugate bases
12:49 - Hydrogens move around, but don't go away
16:01 - pKa values
19:05 - Cyanuric acid and Cyanurate ion
22:13 - More CYA increases buffering capacity
25:15 - Using chlorine vs. Losing chlorine
28:52 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:16 - pH buffering
04:43 - Bicarbonate, cyanurate and borate
06:41 - pH is based on H2O and hydrolysis
09:56 - Carbonate alkalinity means dissolved CO2 determines pH
11:51 - Bicarbonate converts into carbonate at 8.3 pH
13:22 - High TA, more buffering capacity, more acid demand
15:19 - Acids and conjugate bases
18:16 - pKa values and buffering strength
20:52 - What does pKa stand for?
23:05 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
02:25 - Cicada broods every 13 or 17 years
05:44 - What do cicadas do?
07:03 - Cicadas and swimming pools
08:56 - What do cicadas introduce into swimming pool water?
10:44 - How to get cicadas out of the pool
11:29 - Other small dead animals in pools
13:02 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:06 - How did Niki and Jack get involved in Skimmer?
06:08 - What's new with Skimmer?
09:56 - State of Pool Service Report
12:38 - Skimmer's Orenda Calculator integration
18:03 - The modern pool pro
20:06 - How does Skimmer want their customers to use this?
22:22 - The LSI quantifies water balance
25:42 - Tracking, Trending, and Forecasting
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00:00 - Introduction
02:06 - What is PoolBrain?
04:40 - The pains of running a large pool service business
06:48 - A lack of data
09:42 - The power of standardization and checklists
14:43 - Growing vs. Scaling
21:58 - PoolBrain + Orenda Calculator™ integration
25:55 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:25 - Column-pouring video in Eric's Pool
06:51 - Explanation
08:26 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
03:13 - Myth 1: ANSI-11 Standards NEVER allow water chemistry outside the ranges
05:12 - Myth 2: It's important to give water what it wants to "make water happy"
10:01 - Myth 3: The pH is constantly increasing outside of the acceptable range stated in Standard 11, and there are no options
14:40 - Myth 4: Water balance indexes indicate whether water is scaling or corrosive to surfaces and metals
20:12 - Myth 5: In a pool using chlorine and cyanuric acid, keeping the pH in the acceptable range is not important. Chlorine is controlled by the CYA.
29:03 - Myth 6: To control algae, it is important to maintain a certain ratio of CYA to free chlorine
33:54 - Myth 7: Chlorine lock
36:15 - Myth 8: Chlorine demand is caused by high phosphates and nitrates
37:45 - Myth 9: Using bleach in a pool does not raise pH
48:00 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
01:00 - ORP is a water quality subject
02:39 - Chlorine oxidizes by stealing electrons
04:25 - Why is ORP used in swimming pools?
06:26 - Is ORP measured as conductivity?
07:21 - Factors that affect ORP - pH, CYA, water temperature
08:23 - pH and ORP
11:19 - ORP accuracy is based on fixed pH and chlorine levels
13:22 - Cyanuric acid and ORP
14:24 - Water temperature and ORP
16:20 - Ways to increase ORP
19:23 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
01:12 - Old habits and beliefs about chlorine and acid
07:04 - Liquid chlorine (sodium hypochlorite)
11:07 - Our bodies produce HOCl too
12:13 - HOCl will become HCl (aka muriatic acid)
16:00 - Cal hypo (calcium hypochlorite)
21:30 - Sodium Dichlor (dichloro-s-triazinetrione)
21:46 - Trichlor (tricoloro-s-triazinetrione)
26:36 - Saltwater chlorine generators (SWG)
30:43 - Chlorine gas (Cl2)
33:16 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:35 - We have learned from past mistakes
04:40 - The history of the Orenda Calculator™ formula
05:51 - Dr. Langelier's original formula = pH - pHs
10:47 - Revisions to the LSI in 1942, 1964, 1965 and beyond
12:32 - Technology is not limited by reference charts
14:29 - The LSI charts today are based on the updates by John Wojtowicz
17:22 - Wojtowicz wrote about the pH Ceiling concept
19:19 - The most precise LSI calculator in the world
22:55 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
00:16 - Christian Shirilla, River Pools
08:13 - Jarred's amnesia
08:44 - Terry Arko, HASA
14:42 - Jonathan Heller, MikvahTech
24:19 - Kevin Cooley, Goudy Pools
32:36 - Miguel Chavez, Orenda
38:27 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - Water will naturally balance itself
03:34 - Problems above 8.3 pH
04:46 - Chlorine breaks away from CYA at a higher pH
06:24 - Unnaturally Natural
07:56 - Orenda's Four Pillars
09:59 - 2024 learning objectives
11:37 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:48 - Molecular weight
07:30 - Avogadro's Number - the mol
09:28 - Molar weights of pool chlorine products
11:11 - Trichlor percentages
14:52 - Dichlor percentages
17:14 - Calcium hypochlorite percentages
19:36 - Sodium hypochlorite (liquid bleach) percentages
23:03 - The Orenda Calculator™ does these equations for you
25:06 - Chlorine byproducts
27:21 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
01:10 - Podcast growth
02:11 - Int'l Pool & Spa Show
05:13 - Watershape University Essential Plaster class (C3611)
09:26 - Pool Nation Awards / HASA Afterparty
14:06 - Honest education remains our top priority
18:06 - Closing out 2023
19:36 - Routing Softwares
21:18 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
03:19 - Can't hold chlorine for a week?
09:05 - Can I maintain a pool at a higher pH?
12:38 - Where can I buy Orenda products?
15:34 - Calcium flakes in salt pools
18:53 - Why does pH keep climbing on a new plaster pool?
22:25 - Fiberglass chalking vs. scale
24:08 - Know your actual water chemistry before calling us
29:37 - Moving forward into 2024
32:04 - Grant's macho interruption
33:04 - Price increases. Are you accounting for them?
38:14 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
00:59 - Relationship 1: High alkalinity can lead to chlorine loss via sunlight
03:41 - Coincidence vs. Cause
04:32 - pH, chlorine and CYA graph
07:36 - Chlorine leaves CYA when the pH gets high enough
09:11 - How alkalinity is involved
11:32 - Relationship 2: Chlorine can increase alkalinity
12:17 - Excess hydroxides in liquid chlorine and cal hypo accumulate
14:30 - Chemistry of chlorination
15:59 - Chlorine hydroxide byproducts
17:41 - Summary
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00:00 - 🎶 The man who rules his pool
02:36 - How I ruled my pool this summer
03:43 - Spreadsheet documentation
04:42 - Pool Volume: approximately 24,000 gallons
06:05 - May 9-14: Green pool cleanup
07:57 - May 14: Balance the LSI
12:08 - Leaves, debris, vacuuming and dilution
13:45 - Weekly liquid chlorine and CV-600 enzymes
15:02 - Two major rain storms and mud slides
16:46 - Add it all up
17:59 - Alkalinity: maintained thanks to liquid chlorine?
21:47 - Other products used
24:24 - Summary
26:43 - Chlorination
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00:00 - Brief introduction
00:41 - CV-600's eye-opening results in commercial pools
03:34 - Filter purge
05:59 - Scale issues
07:19 - Phosphates
10:54 - UV
12:20 - LSI in commercial pools
14:36 - pH and alkalinity, overdosing acid feeders
19:24 - Closing
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00:00 - Long introduction
02:23 - Remembering Derek Ingram
10:47 - Introducing Dennis Ingram
13:33 - Origins of the Paddock Evacuator
17:08 - Indoor pool chemistry
19:36 - Developing the Evacuator into the standard of care
23:53 - A paradigm shift in natatorium HVAC design
28:15 - Derek's legacy
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00:00 - Long introduction and housekeeping
05:02 - What are specialty chemicals?
07:25 - Metal removers
10:17 - Citric acid (ascorbic or vitamin C)
12:09 - SC-1000 conflicts with chlorine initially
13:55 - Sequestering agents vs. phosphate removers
17:43 - Enzymes vs. polymers
18:44 - Enzymes vs. various products (hydrocarbons)
20:46 - Orenda's philosophy
23:23 - Closing
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00:00 - Introduction
01:01 - Biguanides
03:45 - Hydrogen Peroxide
05:37 - Bromine
07:06 - Secondary Systems
10:51 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
01:03 - Types of algaecides
01:52 - Copper sulfate
04:54 - Quat and Polyquat (quaternary ammonia)
08:11 - Enzymes conflict with polyquat algaecide too
09:53 - Sodium bromide
13:35 - Mineral systems and ionized metals
16:09 - Ammonium sulfate and Dimethyl ammonium chloride
19:14 - Polymers
20:13 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
04:54 - Rule 1: Never let chlorine touch any other chemical
07:16 - Rule 2: In commercial pools, pick ONE type of chlorine
09:11 - Rule 3: Keep acid stored with separate spill containment
11:44 - Rule 4: For residential pools, only one primary chlorine type, and possibly one secondary chlorine stored separately
12:36 - Trichlor feeders need to be installed correctly
15:15 - Rule 5: Saltwater pools can use a secondary chlorine shock (but not in-line)
17:10 - Rule 6: Create physical separation between chemicals in your vehicle
19:00 - Mistakes happen...even Eric is guilty
20:33 - Chlorine "conflicts" in water
22:41 - Summary
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00:00 - Introduction
04:07 - What is a biofilm?
07:36 - Biofilms encompass more than previously known
11:48 - Microbially-induced corrosion
17:14 - Are all biofilms bad?
20:26 - Biofilms are like Jell-o
24:32 - Biofilm ingredients and chlorine resistance
28:17 - Kill vs. Removal
32:23 - Prevention vs. Remediation
36:42 - How clean is clean?
40:01 - Log-reductions in disinfection
42:53 - How to remove and how to prevent biofilms in pools
48:15 - Where to learn more about biofilms
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00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - pH rise should NOT be caused by cement finishes
05:08 - Is calcium needed in vinyl and fiberglass pools?
07:17 - Fiberglass gel coat degradation and chalking
09:25 - Vinyl liner fading
11:04 - LSI and calcium levels always matter, regardless of pool type
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00:00 - Introduction
01:53 - 30,000+ species of algae exist
07:45 - Planktonic and Filimentous algae types
09:48 - Organic slime protects algae
10:43 - Brushing helps prevent algae
13:44 - Why we advise against using algaecide products
14:48 - Why algae can have different colors
16:11 - How to treat a pool with algae
17:58 - How to prevent algae
21:11 - How much chlorine is needed with CYA?
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00:00 - Introduction
02-54 - Black Algae is actually cyanobacteria
06:02 - To have black algae, it has to be transmitted from elsewhere
08:24 - Black algae is protected by a non-living organic shield
12:48 - Softening the shield
15:43 - Black algae removal procedure
17:18 - Cleaning up afterward
19:26 - No need to superchlorinate
22:30 - Killing the root of the bacteria
24:31 - How to prevent black algae
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00:00 - Introduction
01:12 - Why SC-1000 reduces free chlorine
02:58 - How to use SC-1000 without zeroing out free chlorine
04:25 - How to chlorinate after SC-1000
05:29 - Sequestering vs. chelating
07:09 - The distinction between metals and minerals
08:06 - Phosphate-based sequestering agents
10:17 - Cold water temperature
11:33 - Use SC-1000 in the spring, not the fall
12:32 - Recap
13:42 - Closing, and new HASA Feedback email, feedback@hasa.com
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00:00 - Introduction
01:09 - Previous podcast episodes about calcium
03:08 - Calcium is the bedrock of water balance
05:02 - Quick LSI review
09:50 - Water will balance itself if it has to
11:12 - High alkalinity is more likely to cause scale than high calcium hardness
14:35 - Picking the right calcium hardness level
18:45 - Our thought process behind these numbers
22:46 - What is calcium hardness, specifically?
27:10 - Conclusion
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00:00 - Introduction
00:46 - Eric's nostalgia for the bromine smell, and collegiate swimming
04:02 - Halogens create salts
05:29 - Recharging bromide ions into HOBr
06:51 - Chlorine vs. Bromine
09:15 - Bromamines
10:55 - Back to the bromine cycle, it's a two-edged sword
11:44 - Enough sodium bromide can convert a chlorine pool into bromine
16:57 - 3 types of bromine products
21:39 - Trihalomethanes (THMs)
24:16 - Bromates
27:57 - Is bromine compatible with chlorine?
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00:00 - Introduction
01:38 - Does your local distributor stock ALL the products you need?
05:56 - Freight minimums and group purchasing
12:28 - How to forecast chemical usage
14:51 - Distributors can forecast better than any of us
17:09 - Seasonal demands
23:00 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
02:00 - What is traditional pool care?
04:36 - Pool chemical conflicts
09:08 - Contrast that with Eric's pool on the Orenda program
14:34 - Simplify, and subtract things from the water
17:26 - Success is a choice
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00:00 - Introduction
00:59 - Harold's global voyage
04:34 - Why Harold decided it was time to sell Orenda
07:03 - New advisory role
08:16 - Why HASA?
10:30 - Why chlorine and acid prices were increased
12:50 - Quality Control
14:13 - Control the controllables
16:53 - Why the 4x1 returnable model makes sense
19:51 - Education will continue to expand
22:31 - New email address for complaints and feedback (coming soon)
25:35 - Want grace? Then give grace.
29:04 - Looking forward with gratitude
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00:00 - Introduction
01:39 - Fixer upper
03:23 - Why not just drain the pool and clean it out?
07:44 - Mistakes were made
09:46 - White bucket test...with a stupid, dangerous, distracted mistake
12:42 - Green pool cleanup process
16:06 - Churn it up, then shut it off and wait
16:23 - Quality water needs circulation and filtration
23:41 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
00:19 - Kathryn's background
03:48 - 10. Trade shows can be laid back
06:46 - 9. Paper still matters, but sharing digital marketing is effortless
10:22 - 8. Get training
11:52 - 7. Don't be a splash and dash pool pro
13:57 - 6. Measure your pool
15:37 - 5. Stop abusing trichlor tabs
18:59 - 4. Temperature matters
20:16 - 3. Obey physics, stop fighting them
20:53 - 2. Test and know your fill water
25:35 - 1. LSI first, range chemistry second
29:46 - Wrap up
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00:00 - Introduction
02:05 - Bad water
03:20 - Can chlorine handle everything in a pool?
04:21 - Resetting water quality
06:28 - Green pool cleanups with algaecides
08:49 - Algaecides and their byproducts conflict with chlorine
12:25 - The Orenda green pool cleanup procedure
14:19 - Restoring water balance
15:34 - Cyanuric Acid is important for both water quality and water balance
16:41 - Orenda chemicals only break water quality
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00:00 - Introduction
02:48 - The evolution of our mobile app
04:36 - Cleaning up the code
06:17 - Cross-platform
07:40 - Bugs you have helped us find (and fix) so far
10:15 - Privacy, anonymous survey, and one infuriated app user
15:05 - Integrations with other software
19:34 - The Orenda app only exists because of people like you
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00:00 - Introduction
02:01 - Introducing Team Orenda
10:08 - Introducing Terry Arko, from HASA
13:35 - Terry's role at HASA
16:01 - Bob Lowry's Pool Chemistry Training Institute
17:08 - HASA and Orenda's education conflicts in some ways
22:58 - More in common than in conflict
26:56 - Wrap up. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
00:50 - Orenda has been acquired by HASA
01:46 - Who we were, who we are, and who we hope to become
02:37 - How Orenda Started
07:04 - Some dude named Eric "decided" to join the company
13:20 - We still think and act like a family business
15:20 - Harold Evans, the "brilliant chemist"
18:41 - Eric the intern
22:00 - The pivot to education
25:50 - Why Orenda was acquired
29:52 - Why HASA?
32:00 - Breaking the news
33:27 - Building (and rebuilding) reputations
40:04 - Thank you to everyone who had a part in building Orenda
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00:00 - Introduction
01:29 - How we first discovered crystals in pools
02:51 - What the definition of "scale"?
04:51 - onBalance already knew about calcium sulfate crystals
07:45 - What is calcium sulfate?
09:53 - Calcium sulfate precipitates at a lower pH
12:35 - Where do sulfates come from?
15:16 - How sulfates accumulate in pools
17:11 - How to prevent calcium sulfate scale crystals
19:31 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:47 - What is pollen?
03:44 - How does pollen spread?
06:21 - Pollen, tannins, and organic staining
07:25 - Spring pollen vs. Fall pollen
08:33 - How does pollen get in swimming pools?
09:10 - How to manage pollen in pools
11:20 - CV-600 and CE-Clarifier are great for managing pollen in water
13:06 - Are there phosphates in pollen?
15:23 - Summary
17:33 - Pollen season and bass fishing
18:49 - Wrap up. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:33 - There are a finite number of hours in the workweek
03:10 - Phone help line and emails
07:18 - Voicemail
09:25 - Use our help center, ask.orendatech.com
10:36 - We are not legal expert witnesses, so please don't ask us to be
12:32 - Inbound contact requests
13:38 - If you do have to call us, please be direct
16:19 - Give us time to respond...and we will
16:46 - What a good phone call sounds like
18:22 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
02:33 - We are still relatively unknown, and so is our message
04:15 - We cannot teach water chemistry properly without first understanding water itself
05:30 - The equilibria of both water and air
07:59 - Traditional range chemistry
09:10 - Startup example - stop chasing pH
12:39 - Has range chemistry ever worked?
13:26 - Water doesn't have a voice....or does it?
15:29 - The truth is onoly the beginning
16:17 - LSI Balance requires CO2 balance with the air
20:45 - "It has always been done this way" doesn't mean it has ever been right
23:49 - Water chemistry standards need to be updated
25:56 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction, and introducing Shaun Mulhall, our Southeast regional manager
00:52 - Introducing Kathryn Varden, our Western regional manager
02:01 - Our top 5 topics on this podcast all have a common theme
05:49 - We got to teach two classes at the NESPA show, and 2 more in Spanish
07:21 - Jarred admits the podcast is actually worthwhile (but he still doesn't listen to it)
09:04 - Please give our podcast an honest rating on whatever platform you listen to it on.
10:36 - We have big plans for 2023
10:51 - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
02:43 - What does "helicopter parenting" mean in regard to a swimming pool?
05:23 - Patience is a virtue in pool care
06:46 - Let physics do their thing
08:14 - Physical thresholds like pH ceiling take time
10:01 - One pool to focus on vs. many
11:27 - Make an informed plan to rule YOUR pool
12:23 - Closing. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction
01:22 - Exploring the main menu and features of the Orenda App
03:14 - Blogs, procedures and videos are all shareable on the app
03:50 - App settings allows you to select language, units of measurement, and toggle borate on/off
05:48 - How to use the Orenda Calculator
08:05 - Real-time LSI and color codes
08:28 - How the Orenda Calculator dials work
10:01 - How to get chemical doses
14:44 - Chlorine and phosphates are segmented below the LSI line because they do not impact LSI, but are used in the chemical dosing calculator
15:24 - Sharing results, and an example of a software bug
17:29 - Scenario 1: winterizing a pool
24:35 - Scenario 2: weekly pool service
28:20 - How to contain pH and maintain LSI balance all week (in other words, how to Rule Your Pool)
32:47 - Chlorine dosing
34:35 - Old habits die hard. Kill them anyway.
35:53 - Summary. Thanks for listening, thanks for using our app, and Merry Christmas!
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00:00 - Introduction
00:59 - What are phosphates?
02:59 - Where do phosphates come from?
03:09 - Chemically raising phosphates
05:42 - Phosphates in drinking water
08:22 - Environmental factors that introduce phosphates
09:14 - What lowers phosphates in pools?
09:18 - Reverse Osmosis (RO) filtration
10:58 - Rain and snow dilution
11:31 - Phosphate remover products
13:11 - Summary
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00:00 - Introduction
00:35 - What is combined chlorine?
03:20 - What raises combined chlorine?
04:15 - Nitrogen sources in commercial pools
07:29 - Nitrogen sources in residential pools
08:34 - What lowers combined chlorine?
08:59 - Chemical ways to reduce combined chlorine
12:46 - Mechanical ways to reduce combined chlorine
15:03 - Summary - after nitrogen is oxidized...
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series
00:30 - What is TDS?
02:39 - Myths about TDS
04:32 - What raises TDS?
06:29 - What lowers TDS?
07:05 - Reverse Osmosis filtration
07:34 - Summary
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00:00 - Introduction
00:54 - What is Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?
03:33 - CYA controls the speed of chlorine
05:04 - Minimal CYA is our Fourth Pillar of proactive pool care
06:25 - What raises CYA?
08:18 - What lowers CYA?
11:05 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series
00:47 - Happy Thanksgiving!
02:54 - What is calcium hardness?
03:50 - What raises calcium hardness?
06:49 - What lowers calcium hardness?
09:37 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series
00:35 - What is alkalinity?
02:45 - The purpose of alkalinity
03:42 - pH determines the types of alkalinity in your water
04:48 - What raises total alkalinity?
06:47 - Why alkalinity rises in pools with CO2 injectors
09:07 - What lowers total alkalinity?
11:58 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series
00:38 - Overview/recap of what pH is and what it means
02:30 - pH dogma in the swimming pool industry, debunked
05:24 - pH is about dissolved Carbon Dioxide (CO2)
06:37 - pH ceiling (when CO2 is equalized between water and air)
07:16 - What raises pH?
11:14 - What lowers pH?
13:48 - pH suppression
15:13 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction to our new seven-part series
01:37 - We need to get back to the basics, thanks to the questions we are getting from you
02:38 - You are the reason we keep producing this podcast. Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
03:13 - The Orenda Startup™ is still about LSI in colder water. In fact, the LSI is probably even more important in colder water.
04:23 - Three main startup procedure differences to focus on when the water is cold (and getting colder)
05:22 - 1) More calcium hardness
08:34 - 2) When and where to add SC-1000
13:57 - 3) Let the cement dry for a few hours before turning the water on
17:49 - Postpone salt and acid treatments until spring
24:00 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:21 - We met the Pool Chasers in their studio before COVID
02:20 - Podcasts are catching on, but Pool Chasers were one of the first
08:38 - Podcasting wasn't as accepted and understood 5 or 6 years ago. Now it's mainstream.
11:51 - There should be more podcasts, because it's a great medium for sharing information
16:10 - We don't talk about our products and that annoys Greg.
24:03 - If you want to be treated differently, act differently
27:20 - Podcasting is different from classes and trade show activities because it's not based on a finite window of time, and every week it can be new.
29:48 - Tyler thinks its cool that Orenda listened to them and took them seriously about podcasting. Because most people don't.
32:13 - We love hearing from our listeners on podcast@orendatech.com and ask.orendatech.com
32:51 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
03:08 - Let's start with pool damage, electrical and physical
05:26 - Electrical Hazards
06:31 - Contamination, physical and chemical
07:48 - Biohazards
09:20 - How to clean up a pool after a Hurricane
11:59 - Chemistry and chlorination after circulation is up and running
14:21 - Brief summary
16:44 - Drinking water contamination
17:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro - We're doing it LIVE
01:54 - Orenda help line rings with people asking about winterization
03:19 - The type of safety cover affects water chemistry
05:20 - Winterization is like bear hibernation
06:21 - Sanitizing and Balance: two separate things
08:28 - Winterization kits miss the point
11:38 - Even sitting next to each other looking at the same laptop, Jarred is still somehow not looking at the show notes
14:24 - What is a winter watch program?
15:32 - Spring openings
19:54 - What are calcium crystals?
22:04 - Winter dust
23:22 - Swim Across America recap. Jarred survived...barely.
30:13 - Introducing our spanish podcast hosted by Miguel, Controlando la Piscina
30:56 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro - Jarred is a Debbie Downer
02:23 - Jarred printed the show notes for this episode
03:17 - Criticism: Orenda downplays the importance of pH
07:09 - Criticism: Orenda advocates for alkalinity below 80 ppm, but that will destroy a pool
08:38 - Criticism: Orenda says 50 ppm CYA or less, but you can't hold chlorine for a week with such low levels
09:54 - Criticism: Phosphates don't matter, and Orenda just says they do to sell more PR-10,000
11:25 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup conflicts with other standard methods
13:38 - Criticism: The Orenda Startup doesn't work
14:40 - Criticism: Orenda's "education" is just propaganda for you to buy more products
17:23 - Criticism: Orenda likes calcium hardness too high
20:44 - Criticism: Orenda says calcium flakes from salt cells are calcium carbonate, but I was told they're calcium phosphate
22:32 - Criticism: Orenda was anti-borate, but now they've flip-flopped and are pro-borate?
24:17 - Criticism: The Rule Your Pool podcast is lame. (We agree with this one).
25:07 - Criticism: The Orenda Calculator is inaccurate because it differs from other LSI calculators out there
26:29 - Criticism: SC-1000 is no better than other sequestering agents, plus it wipes out chlorine
28:19 - Criticism: Orenda is just another greedy chemical company
30:39 - Criticism: Orenda makes stuff up and calls it "research"
32:55 - Criticism: Orenda unfairly criticizes algaecides...they work so well
34:04 - Criticism: Enzymes don't "digest" because they aren't living
35:07 - Criticism: The LSI wasn't made for pools
36:34 - Criticism: Orenda says pH cannot be controlled...but my pool has a pH controller on it
39:49 - Closing. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro...Jarred is the host this time
01:12 - People call us for advice, and most of them are wanting "the easy button"
04:54 - Old school thinking (good enough) prevents you from being great
06:45 - What is your added value to the pool owner?
11:04 - Traditional pool care
16:04 - Relying on chlorine to do too much
18:30 - Ways to add additional value
20:20 - Do not be fearful of educating customers if you're adding additional value
21:38 - Six bad habits to avoid
23:56 - Four Pillars (action steps)
27:16 - The Orenda Cult
28:32 - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:34 - Tempool plaster school
03:21 - We learned a LOT by physically plastering a pool
06:23 - Plasterers are artisans. There's both an art and a science to this trade
07:57 - We learned the entire process from waterproofing/prep, to plastering, to exposing
12:57 - Water to cement ratio. The mixer matters!
14:53 - The pro's at Tempool moved differently than us newbies
16:17 - Finishing steps - butter/cream removal
18:23 - Finishing steps - wet brushing/brooming, rinsing
21:05 - Exposure types: acid wash, advanced acid wash w/bicarb rinse, and Pool Wash™
22:50 - Passing the baton: shotcrete > prep crew > plaster crew > exposure crew > startup technician
24:25 - Watershape University class C3611, Essential Plaster Workshop, Nov. 12-13, 2022.
25:04 - Closing. Thanks for listening! We think we passed 50 listeners!
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00:00 - Intro
02:18 - Thermometers are reliable and accurate, but because they're not water tests, they're not included in our list of three tests in this episode.
04:19 - No test kit stays accurate and precise forever. All of them need to be maintained, used properly, calibrated and reagents need to be taken care of (and not expired).
05:13 - The White Bucket Test
07:43 - Our first white bucket test...green water out of the hose on a startup
10:23 - White bucket tests can be used to identify if there are metals in tap water too
13:47 - Melamine clouds with Cyanuric Acid (CYA)
15:20 - PR-10,000 clouds with phosphates of any kind (red cap test)
17:55 - Ruling out variables helps you narrow in on the cause of the problem
20:06 - Closing remarks. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction with Bill Drakeley, Watershapes University
01:47 - Cement cracks
05:43 - Concrete issues cause plaster issues
07:55 - What are "structural cracks"?
08:48 - Calcium nodules
12:46 - Concrete core samples
15:45 - Lack of bonding / delamination
17:21 - Bill pounds on his desk when talking about concrete
21:13 - Start with the pool foundation when diagnosing plaster problems
21:58 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Introduction to Bill Drakeley
02:22 - Concrete 101: What happens when water mixes with dry cement?
04:02 - Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)
05:18 - Compressive value (PSI)
07:49 - ACI and ASA minimum for pool concrete is 4000 PSI.
08:59 - How do you regulate PSI? Concrete mix design (water:cement ratio)
11:41 - Quality control
13:08 - Is waterproofing necessary when you have a proper, watertight concrete pool shell?
16:39 - Rapid-fire definitions
20:20 - Types of cracks
21:56 - Hydrating vs. Curing
29:15 - How to prep concrete before plaster
32:27 - Watertight vs. waterproof
33:42 - Summary: do your homework. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.
01:24 - Housekeeping: We're teaching with Watershapes University. WU C3611, November 12 and 13 in Las Vegas: Essential Plaster Workshop. And we're participating in Swim Across America, September 24 in Dallas. You can contribute to our team at swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.
03:38 - Check out the chlorine and CYA chart here: https://blog.orendatech.com/chlorine-ph-and-cya-relationships
04:55 - When you introduce CYA into the water, pH no longer controls the strength of chlorine (%HOCl)!!
08:23 - Chlorine strength is determined by the FC:CYA ratio. It's only a matter of time until health departments recognize this.
10:58 - At a high enough pH, OCl- will break away from CYA and can be destroyed by sunlight. Focus on your pH ceiling to avoid this fate.
13:50 - Simplifying the complex
15:36 - The Orenda program takes these overlapping factors into account, so you do not need to understand all of the chemistry. We've taken things into consideration for you. Just follow the plan and the chemistry will behave.
18:05 - Paradigm shifts are never comfortable
18:42 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:18 - Housekeeping: WU class 3611 at the Int'l Show, and swimacrossamerica.org/goto/orenda.
04:55 - The Orenda Philosophy
07:38 - Algaecides (except chlorine) leave behind long-term byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine
11:33 - Pools per gallon, starting with Orenda products
11:56 - CV-600/700 pools per gallon
15:45 - PR-10,000 pools per gallon
18:27 - CE-Clarifier pools per gallon
21:05 - SC-1000 pools per gallon
22:06 - Acid pools per gallon
24:47 - Changes to acid dosing in the 3.0 Orenda Calculator
26:04 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Another long intro, reminding listeners about Swim Across America, and WU C3611 at the Int'l Pool & Spa show in Vegas this November.
03:34 - Orenda is neither pro-borate, nor anti-borate. We don't find them necessary, but we don't criticize those who use them responsibly either.
05:41 - Never exceed 50 ppm borate in your water, for toxicity reasons.
07:46 - What are borates?
08:49 - Bicarbonate/carbonate alkalinity and its pKa value of 6.14 pH.
09:52 - Boric acid/Borate and its pKa value of 9.2 pH.
11:22 - Borates buffer against the rise in pH by taking a hydroxyl ion (OH-). This is the opposite of what bicarbonate alkalinity does.
13:05 - Borate algaestat claims
13:52 - Borate water clarity claims
14:40 - Borate toxicity and availabiliy in California
15:40 - Use properly labeled products for their intended use
17:15 - Why borates are in the Orenda App? They impact the LSI.
18:10 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - An extra-long intro, complete with Jarred's new microphone and some housekeeping topics.
06:39 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine.
09:01 - With CYA in the water, pH does not control chlorine strength, but at a high enough pH, OCl- breaks away from CYA and can be lost to sunlight.
11:42 - Chlorine demand is both the sanitizer demand and oxidant demand. Let's start with the sanitizer demand.
13:29 - Oxidant demand, starting with metals
15:35 - Nitrogen compounds
23:47 - Non-living organics
28:38 - Are you being proactive?
30:44 - Jarred's closing
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00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Orenda 3.0 features new, improved formulas. Most of the update was about improving the formulas.
01:43 - The LSI reference chart is the basis for most LSI calculators.
02:52 - The old Orenda app extrapolated within the LSI dosing chart to be more accurate.
04:39 - The new Orenda calculator is more true to the Saturation Index, and that's why the LSI results will be slightly different than before. They are more precise now.
05:53 - Dosing calculator formula upgrades
07:20 - You can now select your preferred acid and chlorine types
08:26 - Dry chemicals are by weight, liquids are by volume. This is because dry chemicals of the same volume can have different weights.
09:40 - Use a graduated dry pool chemical scoop that shows you different lines for what one pound of each chemical is in volume.
09:59 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:53 - Our annual meeting made light of some costly mistakes
02:13 - The two mistakes to explain are the premature Orenda 3.0 release and the Startup Barrel Platform
03:24 - Without customer feedback, we could not have found the bugs as quickly as we have. Your feedback is incredibly valuable!
07:13 - We are discontinuing the Startup Barrel Platform
07:27 - Giving credit where credit is due: Lupe, Dave, Dave, Molinari Pools, and PurAqua
10:16 - The platform became cost prohibitive, and even if we wanted to make more, we cannot reliably get the parts
12:27 - Too much of the platform was out of our control, and it is officially discontinued
12:57 - Summary. Thanks for listening, and thanks for your patience with Orenda and our mistakes.
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00:00 - Intro
02:14 - Our audience is becoming massive
02:43 - We built this app as an investment in you. Paying it forward to help the industry and every pool owner
06:01 - We make our money on selling chemicals, but this calculator is for everyone, whether you buy our chemicals or not
06:36 - We insisted on this calculator being the most accurate pool calculator in the world
08:28 - Borate is now included in the LSI calculator
12:30 - New secondary readings
15:28 - The Mac-daddy of features: future alkalinity
17:29 - New toggles to select the type of chlorine(s) and acid you use
19:54 - Three versions of the app: Android, iOS and now the web calculator.
22:16 - The user survey when you first open the app is completely anonymous, and it helps us cater the app to our users.
26:16 - Summary...and Jarred's attempted coup-de-tat. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:36 - The URL is ask.orendatech.com
01:55 - We get a ton of phone calls, and most of them are questions we get every week.
02:35 - Don't see your question answered? Submit your question at the top of the web page.
04:04 - Jarred asks a question we actually haven't yet answered, and shows how to submit a question.
08:12 - The help center can be found from anywhere on our website, using a link in both the header menu and the footer of each page.
08:29 - Summary - thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:42 - Orthophosphates (PO4) are the building block of phosphate compounds
03:58 - Inorganic phosphate types
05:07 - If PR-10,000 clouds, you are watching it remove phosphates from water
05:48 - Tests can be decieving, and inaccurate. And they only measure orthophosphates.
07:52 - When PR-10,000 reduces less than expected, it removed phosphates that did not show up on your test kit
08:54 - Try to avoid chemical conflicts
10:21 - Phosphates in drinking water
11:59 - Jarred gets to do the outro. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:03 - There's a difference between using chlorine and losing chlorine
02:11 - Chlorinate and cross your fingers
03:59 - Does warmer weather really mean you need more CYA to protect chlorine from more intense sunlight?
08:49 - CYA's other impacts
09:43 - High pH actually does increase chlorine loss, because OCl- dissociates from CYA in higher pH water
12:07 - Jarred did not read all five bullet points in our extensive show notes
13:53 - Low-energy Jarred summarizes for the fans
14:32 - Summary - Thanks for listening! And check out our brand new Help Center: ask.orendatech.com
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00:00 - Intro
01:51 - Not all of our advice conflicts with industry standards and texbooks. We just don't believe in the dogma of range chemistry.
02:56 - What is range chemistry?
04:31 - Water never read the textbook. Just like Jarred.
07:07 - Why are people more concerned with scale than etching?
08:39 - Aggressive water looks good. Just like Jarred.
16:08 - Being blind to the LSI is expensive, and it means you're going to fight your water to conform to ranges it doesn't want to conform to.
19:09 - Chasing pH is not profitable, nor is it beneficial for the pool.
21:07 - Be proactive and Rule Your Pool. Regardless of what the pool store's software says, because it's based on range chemistry. You can be focused on the LSI, which reigns supreme.
23:22 - Jarred's summary: we teach this way because it helps you treat water the way water wants to be treated.
23:50 - Eric's summary: Prescription without diagnosis is called malpractice. (Jarred's summary was better).
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00:00 - Intro
00:52 - What is SPA-500?
02:50 - How to use SPA-500
04:41 - Recap
05:51 - Closing the shortest episode we've ever done. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:27 - What is a clarifier?
01:28 - What is chitosan?
04:38 - What does CE-Clarifier do?
06:08 - How to use CE-Clarifier
09:23 - Frequently asked questions
11:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:58 - What is an enzyme?
03:28 - Enzymes vs. sunscreen
05:54 - How to use CV-600 and CV-700
08:29 - Enzyme dosing
10:47 - Differences between CV-600 and CV-700
12:44 - FAQs
15:11 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:56 - What is a sequestering agent?
05:55 - What is a chelating agent?
08:09 - How to use SC-1000
09:14 - We are not in the stain-removal business. But SC-1000 can help soften and remove scale.
12:49 - SC-1000 considerations to be aware of. First, water temperature matters.
14:27 - Second consideration: SC-1000 wipes out chlorine until it can do its job.
16:32 - SC-1000 is biodegradable, but that requires bacteria that cannot survive in a swimming pool. So it has staying power.
17:33 - Frequently asked questions about SC-1000
19:24 - Wrap up, summary, and thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:58 - What is PR-10,000?
01:32 - What does PR-10,000 do in the water?
04:26 - Heavy doses of PR-10,000 are easier when using enzymes, because oils and organics can stick to the dust fallout and make it more difficult to clear the water.
05:31 - How to add PR-10,000
07:07 - Higher doses (special doses) of PR-10,000
10:45 - Frequently Asked Questions
14:57 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:23 - What is an Orenda purge? It is a deliberately strong initial dose of enzymes and phosphate remover (and sometimes chelant) to reset your water. It gives your water the most reduced chlorine demand possible.
03:58 - The entire purpose of an Orenda Purge is remove chlorine-resistant contaminants.
07:45 - SC-1000 chelates metals and prevents oxidation and staining, but most pools do not need it every year. It will stay in for a very long time.
09:00 - PR-10,000 is a fast-acting, one-and-done product. It leaves behind no residual. And it works very well in tandem with enzymes.
10:42 - Every Orenda purge is based on CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes. Enzymes are the foundation of the purge.
12:51 - Oils and organics float, while dust falls. So if you are trying to clear the pool after using PR-10,000, use enzymes so that oils do not keep the dust suspended in the water.
17:01 - CV-600/700 and SC-1000 purge doses are the exact same amount: one quart per 10,000 gallons.
21:13 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:58 - To reduce alkalinity, use acid. But there are a few types of acid. And what, exactly, does acid do? It converts alkalinity into carbonic acid (dissolved CO2).
04:17 - The amount of dissolved CO2 in your water determines the pH.
04:36 - Clarifying "carbonate alkalinity" vs. "total alkalinity".
07:45 - The Orenda App adjusts alkalinity automatically for you when you update the CYA level.
08:45 - How to actually add acid to reduce alkalinity: do not column pour! Dilute dilute dilute.
13:55 - How to deal with tap water with high alkalinity (150+ ppm) or very high alkalinity (200+ ppm).
17:16 - Reduce alkalinity slowly. Do not remove more than 20 ppm at a time. Aim for 10-15 ppm of alkalinity reduction at a time. The more dilution, the better.
18:12 - To reduce risk of 'tanking the pH' while reducing alkalinity, aerate the water. And there are other ways of stirring up the water without circulating it through the system.
20:00 - How to raise alkalinty: Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and Sodium carbonate (soda ash). Bicarb is more appropriate for raising alkalinity because it barely raises pH, whereas soda ash will raise the pH significantly for the same alkalinity addition.
23:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Introducing Rob Butcher, the CEO of Swim Across America
02:02 - Who is Swim Across America? 2022 is the 35th anniversary of SAA.
05:52 - The boat for the original swim sank, and it's still on the bottom of the Long Island sound.
10:06 - Fighting cancer is personal to Rob.
12:32 - The first Intermission in RYP Podcast history. We hereby invite you to join our team.
16:26 - The energy of a SAA swim is incredible.
19:29 - When SAA makes a gift to a cancer institution or hospital, SAA has a scientific and medical board who helps decide where best to allocate those funds. In particular, patient research for experimental, cutting edge treatments.
29:39 - Olympic swimmers show up at almost every swim, and they volunteer their time to be there. In fact, they pay to swim and help raise money.
31:49 - We lost an employee last week, Kelly. We want to honor her and she is already sorely missed. She kept our business running and made sure we were able to ship on time, even during the supply chain chaos of COVID. By the time she found out she had cancer, it was too late. It had already spread everywhere.
36:10 - SAA is directly in our industry. The pool industry is predicated on the fact that people need to learn how to swim. It's a life skill.
37:26 - Not many people in the industry were competitive swimmers. But you don't have to be a swimmer to be a part of this. You can volunteer, donate, and tell others about it. We'll swim on your behalf.
Join your own event, or join our team. It's 100% tax deductible. Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:01 - Two categories to talk about: year-round uncovered pools, and pools that were closed/covered/winterized.
09:57 - What should be done first? Remove debris.
13:32 - What sequence of operations should you follow? In what order?
17:35 - One-stop openings are more challenging, but still doable.
18:13 - Have mercy on your pool company. It's beyond hectic.
24:00 - SC-1000 throws a wrench in the opening process because it wipes out chlorine. When should you add it?
29:20 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
03:12 - What is the Orenda Program? It's a philosophy, not a list of products.
04:45 - The history of Orenda
10:42 - It's never profitable to be reactive. Being proactive is much better.
12:42 - No chemical conflicts
21:05 - No long-term byproducts left behind
26:19 - What is an Orenda pool? What does that mean?
27:54 - Ten Steps to implement the Orenda Program
35:52 - Recap of steps 1-3: dilute as needed, establish higher calcium hardness and reduced total alkalinity levels.
36:19 - Steps 4-6: Purging with Orenda products
41:50 - Steps 7-10: Clean the pool, balance the LSI, chlorinate
46:30 - Jarred's summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:29 - The amount of calcium carbonate is calcium hardness. How saturatedthat calcium carbonate is is measured using the LSI.
02:45 - If calcium rises, it's coming from somewhere. If calcium falls, it's going somewhere.
03:21 - What increases calcium hardness?
05:03 - What reduces calcium hardness?
07:02 - Evaporation and accumulation
08:53 - If the calcium seems to move much more than it should, it's probably a faulty test
10:16 - Two-breath recap. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:07 - Giving credit where credit is due
02:25 - Saltwater pools ARE chlorine pools
04:13 - Salt (NaCl) dissolves in water and the sodium (Na) separates from chloride (Cl-). That chloride is what the salt system converts into chlorine
04:43 - What a salt cell is and how it works
08:45 - Electrolysis converts 2Cl into Cl2, and Eric attempts to read through the three chemistry formulas in order...
13:51 - Because Hydrogen gas (H2) does not dissolve, it bubbles off and creates aeration, which leads carbon dioxide (CO2) to also leave, which raises the pH
17:00 - All of this chemistry depends on having enough conductivity in the water
17:49 - Two factors drive conductivity: water temperature and salinity
22:45 - Summary of the episode in just 3 breaths. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:59 - What is 2022 going to look like? What can we expect with the supply chain shortages?
05:10 - What can you do NOW to make openings smoother in a few weeks?
08:57 - Most pools with mesh covers (or no covers) will have lower calcium and higher pH than they winterized with.
12:55 - A hard reset in the spring is a very good practice. What can you decide to remove from your water?
16:22 - We can start removing phosphates and non-living organics now. Addressing metals will have to wait until the water is warm enough.
17:50 - A hard reset puts yourself and your customer in the most advantageous position going into the season.
18:36 - Summary - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro....by Jarred?
02:35 - What is a Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)?
07:34 - The root of the word "decide".
17:18 - When people do their own thing in a service business, they are incentivized to cover up their mistakes.
21:07 - Collective intelligence
24:00 - Step 1: Gain control of CYA levels.
27:20 - Step 2: Create an LSI floor (foundation) with calcium hardness, and a ceiling with total alkalinity.
34:23 - Step 3: Write down your clearly-defined SOP for chemistry and behaviors. Written down processes, such as using a measuring cup and diluting acid, using a thermometer when you test water, etc.
36:08 - Step 4: Purge and remove contaminants. Decide to remove non-living organics and phosphates from the water.
38:54 - Step 5: Track it. Without documentation, it makes it harder to notice deviations from the baseline.
41:46 - Benefits of standardization: Brand benefits
43:39 - Benefits of standardization: Personnel substitutions are easier
45:57 - Benefits of standardization: Problems will stand out sooner
47:17 - Benefits of standardization: Collective intelligence
47:58 - Benefits of standardization: Reduced employee turnover
48:52 - Benefits of standardization: Better forecasting, which in turn allows for bulk purchasing discounts
50:11 - Summary - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:43 - Swimming is an individual sport AND a team sport. Individual athletes racing the clock are part of a bigger team. This translates to pool companies as well.
04:02 - Let's focus on people. Not the job, not the skills, the people. People are always the most important aspect of a business.
04:32 - The benefits of a baseline, such as water chemistry minimums. Standards lead to collective intelligence, the team becomes more cohesive.
10:09 - Build a family and team atmosphere. Gather input from employees. They know things you do not.
10:45 - A reward system within the team, i.e. "Mojo" the monkey.
13:41 - Involve the homeowners in appreciation of your employees too. Example: Southwest Airlines 'kick-tails'
17:47 - With more profitability comes opportunities to clean up the brand. Better uniforms, cleaning the trucks, etc. Everyone wants to take pride in their work.
19:25 - Increasing the margin for error also helps keep employees. Example: customer adopted the Orenda program and noticed their employees were starting with some 'early wins' and getting compliments early on. More room for error means less frustration when learning.
23:24 - Training is available all over the place. Orenda has Orenda Academy, this podcast, over 100 blogs, videos and procedures too. But other companies do too. Manufacturers want to train your people.
24:15 - Summary: Let your team build a healthy culture, once you have established a baseline and a family/team atmosphere.
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00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Drinks made from plants have natural color from Tannins. Wine, coffee, tea, etc.
06:10 - Nothing replaces the importance of physically cleaning organics out of the pool. Leaves, acorns and other droppings will overwhelm chlorine if you do not regularly remove them.
10:25 - Tannins can be soaked out of decaying organics. They either stain the surface or discolor the water, or both.
12:48 - If you don't clean off mesh covers, decaying organics will release tannins into the pool below the cover. It's not pretty.
14:20 - Cleaning up tannin stains and discoloration mostly involves chlorination. But is chlorination the most efficient way of handling tannins? Not in our opinion.
15:58 - CV-600 and CV-700 enzymes are awesome for handling tannins. Enzymes devour them.
19:05 - How can you identify if it's an organic or metal issue? You can do the white bucket test. Scoop some water into the clean white bucket and add a bit of liquid chlorine. If it clears up, it was either algae or tannins (organics). If the water gets darker, it's metals.
21:03 - Summary. Thanks for listening! If you have questions or requests: podcast@orendatech.com
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00:00 - Intro
01:49 - Most people mistake this problem for scale. But it's not scale.
05:05 - This is a chemistry issue, not specific to brand of finish or pigment. This is not a cement or pigment failure, it's a water chemistry problem that can be prevented.
06:01 - How this occurs during plaster application, exposure and startup.
15:36 - How this occurs months or years later, from aggressive water over time.
21:04 - When we get calls about these issues, the answer is not always good news. We are not in the business of pointing fingers at who caused what.
25:45 - Two causes of etching: not diluting acid, and using trichlor feeders, especially on pools with auto covers.
28:35 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
04:18 - Calcite crystals are not the same thing as scale
10:49 - Jarred describes photos of crystals
14:18 - Jarred explains how to prevent crystals, and explains it better than Eric. Well done, Jarred.
25:16 - We know of 4 types of crystals. Each has a different difficulty of removal.
32:35 - Jarred summarizes, and summarizes better than Eric. Now you're just showing off, Jarred.
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00:00 - Intro
02:00 - Look up "nodule" on blog.orendatech.com, and you will find articles that show photos of calcium nodules. You can also do an online search of nodules and find plenty of information.
04:32 - This is the Orenda podcast, and we believe you should hear both opinions on nodules. First, the NPC's position.
08:08 - Now, the onBalance position.
12:42 - Both sides acknowledge nodules are not scale. They are minerals from within (or behind) the plaster surface that come to the surface.
17:12 - Water chemistry itself cannot stop nodules once they've started. They are not chemistry problems, in our experience. They are a physical problem with structural weaknesses in cement.
20:12 - Summary - thanks for listening! If you have comments or requests for the show, our new email address is podcast@orendatech.com.
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00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Welcome to the team, Ryan Rickaby!
01:20 - Review of calcium hardness (amount of calcium carbonate) vs. LSI (saturation of calcium carbonate)
04:30 - Soda ash clouds the water instantly
12:10 - Sharing Eric's screen (alkalinity equilibrium), which can be found on the Orenda Blog, search for Alkalinity
14:21 - When the pH is high enough, carbonate ions (CO3- -) perfectly match with calcium ions (Ca++) to form calcium carbonate (CaCO3).
19:10 - If you put 11+ pH soda ash into the water, it will convert bicarbonate into carbonate, on top of the sodium carbonate you just added, which forces an LSI violation locally. So adding soda ash should be added slowly, and pre-dissolved.
19:56 - The cloud, it either gets filtered out, goes back into solution when the chemistry normalizes, or it precipitates out as dust.
20:27 - Plaster dust
26:52 - Carbonate clouding
30:12 - Winter dust
34:52 - Summary - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:57 - Definition of scale: Scale is the hardened deposit of a calcium compound that has precipitated out of solution.
02:30 - Analogy of sugar in a drink. This analogy explains the difference between the saturation of calcium carbonate (LSI), and the amount of calcium carbonate (calcium hardness).
06:33 - Calcium carbonate (CaCO3) is the most common form of scale, by far. But there are other forms of scale: calcium silica, calcium sulfate, calcium phosphate, and probably some other obscure ones we have yet to encounter. They are more difficult to deal with.
12:35 - The same amount of 'sugar' (calcium carbonate) can be too much, too little, or just right, depending on other factors in the LSI. The key here is that scale falls out of solution when the water is oversaturated. Carbonate scale occurs over +0.30 LSI.
16:10 - When you see scale in your pool, it will always be in the hottest places first. In the case of carbonate scale, it will be in the highest-LSI areas first. Primarily a salt cell or heater. Flakes in salt cells occur because of a localized LSI violation in the salt cell.
22:08 - If scale is not on plastic fittings, the face of tile, lights, etc., it's not scale. It must have come from the cement, not the water.
25:46 - To chelate or sequester, the water needs to be warm enough (~65ºF or warmer), or else the chemicals will not activate. The warmer the water, the faster these chemicals work.
29:06 - How to remove scale
32:28 - Summary. Thanks for listening! Stay tuned for the next four episodes in this series of calcium issues.
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00:00 - Intro
01:42 - Dilution is not always the solution. But it can be the most practical answer to get certain chemistry levels reduced.
06:54 - Evaporation will not lead to dilution, because the dissolved solids stayed behind. Things will accumulate because tap water adds more dissolved solids to the water.
07:09 - Dilution is not so much about high Total Dissolved Solids (TDS), it's about what's in that TDS. Specifically high cyanuric acid, and high calcium hardness.
09:55 - You don't have to dilute all at once, it can be done over several weeks or more. You can also let nature dilute it for you (rain and snow).
12:40 - If your chemistry is preventing you from maintaining LSI balance or having proper sanitation, draining and diluting might help you simplify your chemistry. Draining/diluting is much better than throwing a whole bunch of other chemicals in the water.
15:37 - Summary - Dilution is a good thing in many cases, but it's not always necessary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:01 - Recap of Henry's Law of differential pressures. Any gas dissolved in a liquid will equalize with that same gas above the liquid.
04:36 - If you exceed the pH ceiling, the atmosphere will literally push CO2 back into the water.
04:57 - Where does CO2 come from when adding acid? It converts bicarbonate into carbonic acid (dissolved CO2).
07:50 - We don't want bicarbonate ions to convert into carbonate ions (at 8.3 pH or higher) because carbonates are attracted to calcium ions, creating calcium carbonate.
12:12 - How can we stop the rise of pH? How can we suppress pH?
12:39 - Analogy of the beer: what can you do to stop the beer from going flat? Think of it that way. How can you stop (or slow) the loss of CO2?
16:36 - Three categories of ways to suppress pH: cover the pool, chemically suppress it (acid feeder, CO2 injector, trichlor chlorine), and have very low alkalinity or high CYA to lower the pH ceiling.
18:53 - Explanation of sense-and-dispense acid feeders, and the challenges with them (overfeeding acid).
23:36 - If you don't have any of those reasons listed, but your pH is still being suppressed, please contact us! Teach us so we can learn more about this topic.
26:25 - Conclusion. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:11 - Things can go wrong in water testing, so let's review the common mistakes and interferences.
05:07 - Reagent expiration dates mean nothing if the kit is not stored properly. All test kits have a finite shelf life.
09:10 - Bleaching reagents (very high chlorine) can distort other tests too.
15:08 - Cold water interferes with accuracy too. Warm the sample before testing.
18:48 - Mistakes are common when collecting a sample and taking it somewhere. Grab the sample from below the water surface, fill the clean bottle completely without a big pocket of air in it, and then take it directly to the pool store or lab. The longer you wait, the less accurate the test results.
23:29 - A few other items: lighting is important for color comparison tests, and if you notice something is way off, test again and examine your test kit for problems. Practice, practice, practice.
26:49 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro - Joe's back!
01:44 - Water chemistry testing is important because without it, managing swimming pools well becomes impossible.
05:55 - Water testing is not difficult, but it takes practice and some effort to get good at it. It helps to keep a log of your test results!
06:31 - How often should you test? It depends on the factor(s), but some should be every week, other should be once a month. Free chlorine may be a few times a week in some cases.
13:10 - If you track your results, managing your pool becomes easier because you will notice some trends and you can predict where your water will go.
15:36 - There's one more factor that isn't measured with a test kit that is very important: water temperature.
20:17 - There are many different ways to test the water. What type of kit is right for you?
24:00 - Take care of your test kit! Store it right, clean it, follow instructions, calibrate electronics (if applicable), and don't let reagents expire.
27:24 - Get good at testing if you're the one testing the water. It takes practice, but make the effort to be proficient in it. It's an important skill to have.
28:26 - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
00:49 - Today's episode is about addressing problem pools in the most efficient way
02:02 - Introducing Gus Velez, founder of Pool Service Software
04:36 - PSS users are pool service professionals
07:35 - They had a few chemistry support tickets come in, and they are not chemistry experts. So they went out looking for a partner who can help their users with water chemistry. They found Orenda.
10:28 - When you call Orenda, it's most helpful if you give us the right info about the pool. Photos, chemistry history, age of the pool, etc.
13:47 - Users can just touch a button in PSS and it sends the pool's information–and the user's question–directly to Orenda.
16:32 - PSS also has a web-based dashboard, and business owners can also request Orenda support on behalf of their employees.
18:54 - This integration makes our job easier at Orenda, because we have the right information to answer questions faster.
20:59 - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:59 - PPM = parts per million. It's the density of a given substance dissolved in water. It's the ratio of that substance compared to water. 1 PPM means the dissolved substance is one-millionth of the volume of water.
03:47 - PPM = mg/L. Converting from the metric system it makes sense. 1 cubic meter of water contains 1000 Liters. Each liter contains 1000 mL. Then we switch to solids, because we're talking about dissolved substances. 1 mL = 1000 mg.
07:00 - Brief overview of chemistry targets that use PPM
10:16 - Phosphates are measured in PPB, not PPM. Parts per billion is one-thousandth of a PPM. 1000 ppb = 1 ppm.
11:56 - Conclusion. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:54 - Water chemistry did not cause these problems. These are structural issues.
03:54 - Three main problems: weepers, efflorescence, and calcium nodules.
04:09 - Weepers are active leaks in concrete, where water is flowing through concrete. Usually this is from behind the concrete shell due to groundwater pressure. But it can also be on a raised wall where the pool itself pushes through a weakness in concrete.
06:23 - Shotcrete is applied pneumatically, and the density of it is important. Minimum 4000 PSI.
08:07 - Concrete is not waterproof, it's porous.
10:02 - When water takes minerals with it to the other side, that's called efflorescence. Usually it's calcium, and forms calcium carbonate on the outside. It's often confused with scale.
12:57 - Calcium nodules are another form of efflorescence, but through pool plaster. They happen when moisture is trapped in or behind the cement. The disagreement in the industry is about how the moisture got there.
17:24 - In Eric's opinion, calcium nodules are either in the weakest places in plaster, or they're everywhere. It's almost always a waterproofing failure. Water pushes from the back side, in our experience.
21:03 - You can still have calcium nodules in perfectly LSI-balanced water, because nodules are really a form of efflorescence.
24:16 - How do we prevent these problems? Prevention starts with proper shotcrete installation, and we strongly recommend waterproofing the concrete shell. At a minimum, the raised concrete parts.
26:09 - Proper waterproofing is strongly recommended by Orenda. And we know it's not always necessary with good shotcrete application, but why take the risk? Waterproofing is relatively inexpensive.
28:11 - If you have nodules from groundwater, but not active weepers, the best fix is still chipping out the plaster surface, waterproofing the pool shell, bond coating it, and re-plastering it. It's expensive.
28:43 - Recap. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:35 - Jarred is wearing a Slytherin shirt. He's more of a Ravenclaw, TBH.
04:12 - Type of pool cover impacts your winterization chemistry (dilution, pH rise)
06:51 - Other types of pool covers that are not for winterizing: thermal and solar blankets. They are not safety covers and are not appropriate for winterization.
08:40 - Safety covers are designed to support a lot of weight to keep animals and people (and cars) out of pools.
10:54 - Mesh covers allow transfer of water and gas through it. This means dilution, and pH rise.
16:21 - Don't be afraid of high levels of calcium going into the winter (500+ ppm)
17:31 - Solid covers don't allow dilution and CO2 off-gassing
17:50 - Automatic covers can complicate things if your pool is heated a few times during the winter to swim, because the LSI goes from one extreme to the other. Surfaces can get destroyed because the water cannot correct itself.
22:08 - Solid safety covered pools do not need quite as much calcium as a mesh cover (400+ ppm), because it won't get diluted.
25:14 - Adjust chemicals at least a day before putting a solid cover on. Let the pH naturally rise up before covering the pool. If not, you need more alkalinity.
26:19 - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro, reconnect with nature
04:48 - Water would naturally seek balance if you just shut your pool off. But that is not advised, because water would correct itself at the expense of your pool.
08:04 - Err to the high side of calcium hardness going into the winter. LSI balance at the coldest temperature is the main priority.
08:23 - The second priority of winterizing is keeping the water clean. But winterization kits have nothing to do with LSI...they are mainly chlorine, algaecides and a sequestering agent. Do you really need them?
10:11 - You don't need to super shock going into the winter. Just chlorinate a bit more than normal. As temps drop, less chlorine is needed.
10:38 - Sequestering agents and chelating agents (like our SC-1000) do not work in cold water. We don't include ours in our winterization protocol. You'd be better off adding it in the spring or during startup.
13:42 - The Orenda winterization kit does not exist. Chlorinate normally, add some enzymes, then remove phosphates with PR-10,000 a few days before you close. You'll need to clean up the dust and clean the filter.
16:05 - Get a thermometer if you don't have one.
16:30 - Water is an incredibly powerful element in our world, so we should embrace its natural properties. If you don't get water what it needs (especially when cold), it will damage your pool in search of balance.
17:33 - Let your pH naturally rise. If you have a solid cover, give it a week for the pH to naturally rise before covering it. Don't close at 7.4-7.6 and immediately cover the pool, because CO2 won't escape.
19:27 - Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:10 - Wildfires burn through forests and convert plant life into basic elements...primarily carbon, nitrogen and phosphorus.
02:15 - The closer you are to the fire, the more contamination will get in your water. If you can smell smoke, it's getting into your pool too.
03:45 - Prepare for the smoke, ash and debris when fires start. Be proactive.
03:59 - Rare instances: helicopters borrowing water from your pool, and fire extinguisher chemicals getting into your pool. Most likely this is a drain and refill.
05:47 - Nothing replaces physically cleaning out debris and cleaning the filter. Chemicals will not remove physical debris.
07:30 - Enzymes break down carbon non-living organics. Perfect for addressing carbon contaminants like smoke and ash.
08:51 - Phosphates should be removed too. Consider PR-10,000 or CV-700 enzyme + phosphate remover.
10:02 - Thanks for listening! Find more on our website blog or the 'articles' section of the Orenda App.
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00:00 - Intro
01:44 - Biggest difference between normal pool days and a pool party: bather load.
05:28 - Visit our Second Pillar of proactive pool care, about non-living organics.
08:21 - Holy trinity of pools: Circulation, Filtration, and Chemistry. All three suffer during a pool party.
13:08 - Prepare water and clean it up afterward. Homeowners have an advantage because they know when the party is going to happen, and they can prepare. Service professionals visit once a week, so they do not have that luxury.
17:27 - Best practices: handle the oxidant demand, communicate, and increase chlorine (not shocking, just raising it up to about 5 ppm). Also, clean strainer baskets and vacuum debris out of the pool ahead of time.
20:48 - Clean up the toys afterward so the pool can be vacuumed and cleaned faster after the party.
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00:00 - Intro
02:21 - Evaporation is the process of liquid water converting into water vapor (gas). And this process takes energy (heat) to occur.
03:40 - Humidity in the air and the difference between air and water temperature (delta T) are the two main factors that determine evaporation rate.
05:03 - How evaporation affects water chemistry. An average pool loses roughly its entire volume of pool water in a given year.
06:28 - Difference in temperature between water and air matters a lot. Cold air and warm water evaporates more.
08:58 - Anything in tap water tends to accumulate over time (calcium, metals, etc.). Things not in tap water tend to stay consistent (CYA, salinity, etc.)
10:34 - https://blog.orendatech.com/evaporation-and-accumulation
11:27 - Evaporation scum/scale line on their tile, above the waterline. Not necessarily an LSI violation, because water leaves, so the saturation of CaCO3 goes up.
14:21 - Winterization involves draining water down, and the dilution throughout the winter drastically changes water chemistry.
16:52 - Analogy: glass of water. CH = 200 ppm. Drink half, the CH does not change. Let half evaporate, and the CH doubles.
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00:00 - Intro
01:30 - Controlling pH is not possible. pH moves with anything that happens to the water. It's a reactionary chemistry.
04:07 - Many ways for you to balance the LSI. Use the Orenda App and find out what works for you.
05:45 - Disclosure for commercial pool operators with pH limit of 7.8, and those with chemical automation/acid feeders.
10:26 - White rings around aggregate means the loss of calcium hydroxide (aggressive water stole calcium). From the ITZs.
12:33 - Example using the Orenda app. Let's do this together so you can see for yourself.
17:31 - What if we leverage Henry's Law, and use it to our advantage?
19:21 - Containing pH means never going RED on the LSI calculator, so the pH naturally rises to its ceiling (Henry's Law), and no further.
25:00 - Quick recap of why pH has to rise. CO2 determines pH, and CO2 has to off-gas to equalize with CO2 above the water (Henry's Law).
29:58 - Stop thinking of pH as something you can control. Focus on keeping the LSI balanced by containing pH.
31:00 - Recap. Focus on proper sanitization (FC:CYA) and your LSI. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
03:15 - Calcium flakes and other deposits in salt pools are very common. You're not alone if your pool has them.
05:00 - Our first question when someone calls about calcium flakes: "what is your alkalinity?"
10:33 - How salt cells work, from the inside out
12:16 - What does the salt cell do throughout the day? What to the percentages of output actually mean?
14:12 - Reversing polarity (changing direction of electricity) in between on/off cycles of salt cells. This fractures calcium carbonate into flakes, which blow into your pool.
14:53 - Most of the time, flakes are in your spa, or near your closest return to the equipment.
15:41 - Flakes tumble around in the pool and smooth out and look more like sno-kone ice.
21:31 - Solutions to this problem: balance your LSI, use SC-1000, and operate with lower alkalinity.
27:37 - Allow more circulation time. Most scale is formed right after circulation stops (warm, stagnant water with high pH).
30:08 - Summary. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
02:15 - How do we get rid of combined chlorine? Do we just let chlorine do its thing?
02:49 - Two categories of how to reduce combined chlorine: chemically and physically.
03:30 - Two chemical options: breakpoint chlorination and supplementing chlorine with enzyme or a non-chlorine oxidizer shock. But enzymes and non-chlorine oxidizers do not directly reduce combined chlorine...only chlorine can.
15:06 - Physically removing combined chlorine is done with secondary systems. Oxidizers and UV sanitizer. Ozone and AOP are oxidizers that destroy both nitrogen compounds and formed chloramines. UV can only destroy formed chloramines.
23:43 - If you have a heavy bather load, a secondary system makes a lot of sense.
24:30 - Being proactive means finding the source of nitrogen and addressing that. Check deck cleaners, any algaecide or other product containing ammonia (or ammonium) and keep them out of your pool.
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00:00 - Intro
00:59 - This will be complex chemistry, but very simplified.
02:07 - What is combined chlorine? What does chlorine "combine with"?
05:32 - Combined chlorine is an indicator of your chlorine falling behind, and the byproducts are the cause of bather discomfort, irritation and sickness.
06:00 - The pool industry uses the term "chloramines" generally to describe all of these combined chlorine byproducts.
12:06 - Chloramines, far more than pH, are behind bather discomfort, eye and throat irritation, etc.
16:12 - Even if you have a bromine pool, similar chemistry occurs (bromamines).
21:27 - There is no chemical way to get rid of nitrogen byproducts without chlorine combining there. There isn't a natural enzyme or other chemical that can break down nitrogen compounds.
28:00 - Nitrogen in your water means your chlorine will be tied up dealing with it.
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00:00 - Intro
01:33 - We're in an muriatic acid shortage. Thanks, COVID.
02:21 - Two specialty acids: modified Muriatic Acids for less fuming: AcidBlue and AcidMagic.
03:06 - Muriatic acid is a diluted form of Hydrochloric acid (HCl). It is 31.45% HCl or less.
04:14 - Sulfuric acid (H2SO4) is sold in 38.5% concentration. It is comparable in dosing to standard 31.45% HCl. It takes just 2% more sulfuric acid to equal muriatic by volume.
09:36 - Sodium bisulfate (NaHSO4) is sold in 93.2% concentration. It is also known as "dry acid", or in pool retail stores, "pH down" or "alkalinity down". It is safer to handle than liquid acid, but needs to be pre-dissolved before adding to the pool.
11:48 - Let's talk about sulfates (SO4--) or (SO3--).
12:05 - One gallon of 38.5% sulfuric acid leaves behind 47.1 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons.
13:19 - One pound of 93.2% of sodium bisulfate leaves behind 9.6 ppm of sulfates in 10,000 gallons, plus salt.
14:58 - even in perfectly LSI-balanced water, if you have high enough sulfates, you can still have etching of cement. The sulfate ion (SO3--) can become the dominant ion and kicks carbonate off of calcium (Ca++) and create calcium sulfate. Enough calcium sulfate can precipitate a sharp crystalline scale.
18:08 - The only way to reduce sulfates is to drain and dilute. Unless you have Reverse Osmosis (R.O.) available. If you're going to use sulfuric or sodium bisulfate, you must regularly schedule dilutions to avoid sulfate problems.
19:53 - Sulfates and metals can combine to create that infamous 'rotten egg' smell. We think of it as sulfur, but it's usually iron sulfate or some variant.
21:08 - The third alternative for pH reduction is injecting carbon dioxide (CO2). It reduces pH but does not reduce alkalinity. In fact, alkalinity tends to rise due to excess lye from chlorine.
22:18 - Acid only introduces more CO2 (to reduce pH) is to burn through alkalinity and convert it into carbonic acid. And Joe thought I was asking a trick question. There is no CO2 in acid.
24:39 - One pound of CO2 is equivalent to 32.8 fl.oz. of standard Muriatic Acid for pH correction.
27:08 - Summary
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00:00 - Intro
02:57 - How to we make use of the limited chlorine we have?
03:33 - The chlorine shortage explained (by Joe, so it's better)
06:58 - Chlorinate at a time that direct sunlight does not hit the liquid chlorine. Either in shade or at night.
09:06 - Don't hoard liquid chlorine. It degrades over time, and don't be that person. Your peers and neighbors need chlorine too.
10:22 - What else can be done? Secondary oxidation/sanitization can supplement chlorine.
12:34 - What about deliberately slowing down chlorine? (Intentionally raising CYA)
15:02 - If you raise CYA on purpose, you can do that, but you should remove phosphates and non-living organics to further optimize the slower chlorine that you have.
15:55 - Keep nitrogen compounds (like ammonia or urea) out of your pool.
19:28 - If you're using algaecides, be aware of their byproducts. All of them have byproducts that will eventually conflict with chlorine and reduce it.
21:14 - Summary
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00:00 - Intro
01:22 - We're in an acid shortage. Thanks, COVID.
02:18 - Acid consumption vs. Acid demand
03:19 - Why are we consuming so much acid? (Chasing pH, chlorine strength, plaster issues)
05:03 - CYA changes everything. pH no longer controls %HOCl chlorine strength
09:36 - Reduce acid consumption by being more mindful of the LSI
10:38 - Containing pH, instead of trying to control it.
15:00 - Physics doesn't care about the textbook, your experience, or your opinions
15:53 - Henry's Law of physics: gas in a liquid will equalize with that same gas above the liquid
19:17 - CO2 off-gases until it is in equilibrium with the air above the pool (pH ceiling)
19:42 - Henry's Law in a bottle of beer
26:37 - pH containment visual: elevator. pH ceiling, LSI floor. It moves up and down with water temp.
27:15 - LSI floor means correcting as low into the yellow (on Orenda app) without going red. Allow pH to rise naturally throughout the week
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00:00 - Intro
01:20 - Orenda is more of a philosophy than a product line
04:12 - Chemical conflicts
14:43 - No long-term byproducts left behind (Papaw's Law)
19:29 - Minimalist pool care
31:40 - The love affair with chlorine and acid is a bad habit, and it has consequences
37:24 - A trusted source of information for all levels of pool owners/operators
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00:00 - Intro
03:48 - Our strategy at Orenda: a minimalist approach, proactive pool chemistry
06:24 - What has changed in the pool industry culture?
09:00 - The aptitude in the industry has improved, and is essential for our future
09:47 - Old habits still dominate...but change is already occurring in a good direction
14:03 - Cynicism in pool forums is hurtful to our industry
18:20 - Give the customer the service you would want if you were the customer
26:25 - Customers buy things online and ask service pros to install it
32:45 - Respect must flow both ways in a service relationship with a customer.
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00:00 - Intro
01:31 - Green water from calcium/alkalinity imbalance. Add calcium.
03:08 - Copper. Figure out where the copper is coming from (and stop it), then remove copper.
04:51 - SC-1000 is not a stain or metal remover. It is a chelating agent that needs to be used in conjunction with a citric/ascorbic acid and a metal filter/remover.
07:17 - Algae. Chlorine (HOCl) is the best algaecide. Orenda does NOT make any algaecides.
14:20 - Remove debris from a green pool, because piles underwater can protect algae from chlorine.
18:45 - Liquid chlorine is the preferred chlorine method for green pool cleanups.
19:46 - Reminder: never mix different types of chlorine!
23:25 - Green pool cleanup process (in order): remove debris. Netting, brushing, vacuuming. Super-chlorinate, add PR-10,000, then CV-600 or CV-700 enzymes.
26:21 - When do we add enzymes? Some add them same day, some add the next day. Both seem to work.
31:00 - Recap: first, figure out why your pool is green. It may not be algae.
33:23 - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:43 - This pool wasn't an opaque green, it was translucent, tinging green.
02:09 - We know of at least three reasons pools turn green.
03:11 - We could safely rule out copper for this customer.
03:43 - Jarred is a popular guy (phone rings).
04:50 - The next day, the water was perfectly clear and blue, by increasing calcium relative to alkalinity.
05:48 - We don't know why, but if you have too little calcium hardness relative to alkalinity, the water can turn green (but clear).
06:18 - Dr. McNamara: Optimal ratio to inject CO2 is 4:1 (calcium to total alkalinity). If you're under 3:1, water can start to tinge green.
10:43 - The white bucket test (add chlorine to green water and observe color change)
18:08 - If you have algae taking over your pool, your algae is outpacing the killing rate of chlorine.
19:12 - Control what you can control. CYA and chlorine, phosphate levels (indirect relationship, but important). What really matters is your free chlorine and CYA.
24:00 - Wrapping up with two more topics: CO2 feeders and Potassium Monopersulfate. Both can fuel algae growth.
27:21 - Summary: pool can turn green for three reasons: copper, calcium/alkalinity imbalance, algae.
27:55 - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:19 - What is CYA and why do we use it?
04:54 - Hot temperatures do NOT mean you need more CYA. Temp has nothing to do with sunlight protection and CYA. But chlorine does get used up faster because it works better.
10:52 - You do not need a lower pH to have strong chlorine (%HOCl) when you have CYA in your water.
12:00 - Percentages of HOCl without CYA are pH-dependent. With CYA, that no longer applies.
15:57 - Overstabilization = too much CYA relative to Chlorine
19:39 - Oversabilization is an accumulation problem, usually from stabilized chlorines Trichlor and Dichlor.
19:59 - One pound of trichlor in 10,000 gallons of water adds 6-6.5 ppm of CYA. It adds up quickly.
23:30 - How often should we be testing for CYA?
26:36 - Enroll in Orenda Academy™ for more information
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00:00 - Intro
01:21 - Why do we need to remove phosphates? Do they really matter?
03:59 - What do phosphate test kits actually measure?
04:40 - What are phosphates? And what variations of phosphates are there?
06:25 - Why are there phosphates in our drinking water?
09:34 - Environment and bathers
11:03 - Most metal sequestering agents are phosphate-based
14:32 - Time your phosphate removal treatments appropriately
15:59 - You don't need a lot of phosphate remover. Or you could just throw a lot more chlorine at the problem if you ignore them.
16:18 - Growth/reproduction rate vs. killing rate of sanitizer(s)
16:46 - Phosphates will be within algae's cell walls. You may test low, but phosphates are present if you see algae.
19:09 - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:54 - Chlorine's responsibilities
02:48 - More of an oxidant demand than a sanitizer demand
03:02 - Three categories of oxidants: metals, nitrogen compounds, and non-living organics
03:19 - What does oxidation mean?
05:11 - Nitrogen compounds: ammonia and urea, and combined chlorine
07:54 -The bulk of chlorine's responsibilities (over 90%) are non-living organics
10:23 - Secondary oxidizer systems (ozone, AOP, and hyper-dissolved oxygen)
11:21 - Our not-so-shameless plug: enzymes are used to supplement chlorine against non-living organics
13:49 - Enzymes are not required, but beneficial, especially with larger bather loads
14:26 - Wildfire smoke/ash puts organics, nitrogen and phosphates in your pool. That's a serious chlorine demand.
16:48 - Thank you for listening!
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00:00 - Intro
01:32 - Origins of the Orenda App's LSI calculator
02:47 - Traditional "RANGE CHEMISTRY" vs. the LSI
04:31 - Why pools in different areas may need different chemistry parameters to satisfy the LSI
05:03 - What is the Langelier Saturation Index (LSI), and its six factors?
06:20 - What does the LSI actually tell us?
08:00 - Calcium hardness is NOT the leading factor that causes scale
16:18 - What does colder water temperature do?
16:54 - You can have ideal range chemistry and still be out of LSI balance
18:54 - Distinguishing between Carbonate Alkalinity and Total Alkalinity
21:22 - The LSI reigns supreme, and LSI violations occur at a local level
23:45 - The action step for Pillar 1: Keep LSI balanced year-round
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00:47 - Where's Jarred? Oh yeah, we lost that recording... oops.
01:18 - "Stabilized" refers to two different things: sunlight protection for chlorine, and safer storage and handling.
03:10 - What are the dangers of having too much Cyanuric Acid (CYA)?
06:15 - Advantages of dichlor over trichlor?
07:49 - How much CYA does trichlor put into the water? Answer: 6 to 6.5 ppm per pound, per 10,000 gallons of water. Two 3" tabs = one pound of Trichlor.
09:23 - Do you even know how high your CYA is? If you're over 100 ppm, did you take the time to dilute the sample? And even if not, you should dilute your pool and lower your CYA regardless. It's already too high.
10:46 - Trichlor lowers (or suppresses) pH, and lowers alkalinity gradually. You need higher alkalinity in your pool to account for this.
12:25 - Never put trichlor in the skimmer!
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Of all types of chlorine, Calcium Hypochlorite (Cal Hypo) might be the strongest, but it is also the most volatile to handle. Even its fumes can rust just about anything in your garage or storage container.
In this episode, Eric and Jarred discuss Cal Hypo and the strategies you may need to adopt to properly manage this powerful chemical. If you are having issues with cal hypo because of calcium drift up, high pH, or otherwise, our boys have your back.
BE AWARE: Different types of chlorine are volatile if exposed to each other. They can cause fires and literally explode. Never store two different types of chlorine in the same enclosed area. Always handle with care and caution.
00:00 - Intro
02:22 - Is bleach the same thing as chlorine?
04:04 - What is the pH of chlorine? And How does it affect the pool?
05:47 - What byproducts does bleach leave behind? Why does liquid chlorine increase TDS?
07:20 - What do you do differently in a liquid chlorine pool compared to a salt pool?
12:12 - How much CYA do you need in a liquid chlorine pool?
14:06 - Where should I keep my alkalinity when using liquid chlorine? Where should I keep my calcium?
19:06 - Final Tip: look out for TDS creeping up - liquid chlorine can leave behind more salt quicker than you'd think.
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00:00 - Intro
01:50 - Salt pools are chlorine pools
03:06 - Chlorine handling disclaimer
04:25 - Salt chlorine generation byproducts
13:37 - How CYA affects saltwater pools
15:27 - Managing salt pools in the offseason
17:48 - Acid tip
18:22 - Final thoughts
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It's a short episode this week as we dive into a new topic: different kinds of chlorine. The next few episodes will focus on liquid chlorine, calcium hypochlorite, trichlor, and salt generated chlorine in that order.
As a point of order, we should also tell you this: NEVER mix or store different kinds of chlorine together.
Eric and Jarred wax nostalgiac about the dumpster fire of a year that was 2020, and give a few reasons why this year might be better.
00:21 - Introduction
02:48 - How COVID affected the pool and spa industry
05:20 - How COVID affected the supply chain
10:11 - How COVID affects shipping
13:02 - What are pool service prices going to be in 2021
14:30 - Why are sanitizer prices going up?
18:43 - What are some alternatives to trichlor?
27:19 - Wrap up
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Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.
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00:25 - How to do the Orenda Startup
03:28 - Day One
06:11 - Considerations if the water is trucked in
09:18 - How to balance the water chemistry for startup
12:24 - What to do if your alkalinity is low
13:22 - What to do when your alkalinity is higher than your calcium
16:52 - Why chelate calcium?
21:46 - How much water is flowing out of the barrel
24:15 - When is it appropriate to do a bicarb startup instead of calcium?
31:57 - Day Two
32:20 - Do I need to brush? (Yes.)
33:01 - adding enzymes
35:06 - the rest of the 30 days
42:21 - when can I add cyanuric acid and when can I add salt?
46:01 - Do I need the Orenda startup?
Rule Your Pool is a podcast by Orenda Technologies. This show was created for pool owners, operators, and service pros who want the best water quality possible. If you want to know what's really going on with your swimming pool chemistry, this might be the podcast for you. Each week, we'll cover a new topic related to swimming pools, water chemistry, or indoor air quality. With our help, you'll be able to rule your pool without over-treating it with chemicals and wasting money.
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00:28 - Topic Introduction
02:33 - Setting Expectations of What A Startup Can and Can't Do
06:54 - What is Plaster Dust?
10:14 - Why You Always Need To Test The Tap Water
13:22 - Why are The First 30 Days So Important
17:42 - What Can't A Startup Fix?
20:55 - Why Are Hot Starts Bad?
00:19 - Episode Takeaways
02:52 - How to Prepare Your Pool for The Winter
08:18 - Origin Story of the Orenda Winterization procedure.
11:50 - Considerations for Mesh Covers
17:32 - Considerations for Solid covers
21:19 - Consequences for Bad Winterization
26:37 - How do you prevent a pool from turning brown and disgusting during the winter time?
02:30 - Bad Habit #3: Not taking care of your test kit.
11:23 - Bad Habit #2: Chasing pH
16:57 - Bad Habit #1: Acid Abuse
02:16 - Bad Habit #6: Not Measuring Chemicals
06:05 - Bad Habit #5: Not Knowing The Volume of Your Pool
12:42 - Bad Habit #4: Not Checking the Pool's Temperature
01:09 Episode Takeaways
02:30 How CYA Affects the LSI
05:59 CYA and Alkalinity
09:20 Where Does CYA Come From
14:54 Why You Shouldn't Put Chlorine Tabs In A Skimmer
15:48 How Do You Reduce CYA?
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01:03 Episode Takeaways
02:52 What does "Dissolved" mean anyway?
06:12 Mineral Systems: Just Sexy Metal?
06:44 There's a difference between being in solution and being in suspension
07:38 are phosphates part of TDS?
09:36 TDS (total dissolved solids) Limits
12:01 What is "In Suspension"
14:19 Accumulation and Evaporation
16:25 TDS actually lowers the LSI
22:02 TDS meters are not that expensive. (Total dissolved solid meter cost)
24:48 Wrap Up
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01:01 - Episode Takeaways
03:12 - What does calcium hardness do for a pool?
05:58 - Calcium Hardness in Desert Climates
09:35 - Calcium Hardness Testing
13:56 - How Calcium Hardness Affects Scale
15:58 - How Much Calcium Does Calcium Hypochlorite Add?
18:07 - Advantages of High Calcium Hardness
20:35 - Calcite Crystals
24:43 - How To Lower Calcium Hardness
27:33 - How To Increase Calcium Hardness
33:54 - How Often Should You Test Calcium Hardness
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00:00 - Intro
02:52 - Episode Takeaways
06:45 - Demonstration of temperature's effect on the LSI using the Orenda App
11:16 - Why do pools get more damaged in the winter?
17:55 - How does water temperature affect the LSI?
21:08 - Temperature determines where scale forms
22:18 - Acid and trichlor damage
23:39 - Why do salt pools scale up so much?
27:39 - Why you need to dose acid correctly.
29:50 - The Orenda Scale Removal Regimen
31:39 - Water temperature affects testing
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Why Swimming Pool Temperature Matters
Does Temperature Affect CYA Performance?
Pool Winterization Water Chemistry
Orenda App on The App Store and Google Play
00:11 - Episode Takeaways
01:51 - Water Balance vs Sanitization
05:38 - What is the LSI
09:58 - The six factors of the LSI
11:56 - Water temperature: the most ignored factor?
15:17 - Total Dissolved Solids (TDS)
18:20 - A (Very) Brief History of the LSI
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Relevant Blog Entries
Understanding the LSI
LSI and Calcium Management
ORP and LSI: The Future of Water Chemistry
00:00 - Intro
02:22 - How Carbon Dioxide and pH are related
04:55 - What Causes a High pH in a Swimming Pool
05:06 - What is Henry's Law?
08:59 - What are the factors that make pH go down?
10:10 - pH chart with common pool chemicals listed
15:48 - Controlling vs Containing pH
16:22 - Chart demonstrating CYA and pH relationship.
17:44 - pH and scale formation
18:42 - What makes pH go up?
23:18 - Henry's Law continued
27:24 - How to proactively manage pH
29:36 - Demonstration of proactive pH management using the Orenda App
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00:00 - Intro
02:27 - Alkalinity buffers against reduction in pH
05:27 - Where should my alkalinity be?
08:33 - How much acid does it take to bring a pool from 8.0 pH to 7.4 pH?
11:16 - What is Buffering Capacity?
14:40 - Sodium Carbonate (Soda Ash) vs Sodium Bicarbonate (Baking Soda)
19:03 - How to pH and Calcium interact?
19:52 - Hot Starts or Zero Alkalinity Startups
21:23 - Why testing your water is important
24:59 - The Orenda LSI Calculator
28:53 - How to run a low alkalinity pool
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00:00 - Intro
01:32 - What is pH?
02:30 - pH is an equilibrium
07-58 - Negative logarithm of Hydrogen
08:43 - Let's not try to control pH. Physics is going to raise the pH in swimming pools.
09:50 - Henry's Law of the Solubility of Gases
12:23 - Buy a pH probe to find out your exact pH.
12:37 - Your pH can raise from algae, vanishing edge pools, spas, spillover, or salt cell.
18:53 - Problems occur when pH lowers the LSI and water is starving for calcium
21:16 - What is Alkalinity?
27:38 - Adjusting alkalinity
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About Orenda Technologies
Water is a precious resource, and we strive to make it clean and beautiful. Orenda has a philosophy of minimalism, and proactive pool care. Why be proactive? Because prevention is always easier than correction, and we want to help educate the pool industry and pool owners about it. The vast majority of pool issues are preventable, and that's why we published our Four Pillars of Proactive Pool Care.
For many years, Orenda was primarily a speciality chemical manufacturer, building a business on quality, professional-grade products and reputation. We have since evolved into an education company. We have invested heavily in building the pool industry's leading mobile app and dosing calculator, have a library of helpful videos, and a growing list of educational articles in our blog. In 2019 we released Orenda Academy, which is another free resource for anyone to learn more about pool management.
We want to deliver the best water quality possible, with the fewest chemicals. The Orenda line of professional grade, eco-friendly speciality pool chemicals help our customers get there. But our chemicals merely complement our program, which is a series of improved habits and behaviors to optimize water management.
Let’s stop guessing and “eyeballing it”, and instead dial in our behavior and habits. Orenda is here to help.
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