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This interview-based podcast features a range of guests who are wrestling with the challenging task of preaching the Gospel in the 21st century.

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This episode features Rev. Carl Johnson, Lead Pastor of Faith City Church in St. Paul, MN. He is owner and founder of Storehouse Grocers and is leading the effort to establish the G.W. Carver Cultural Center in St. Paul, MN. Follow Carl on Facebook , LinkedIn, Instagram (@carlonfaith), and TikTok (@righteousrev). 

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This week's conversation features return guest, Dr. Andrew Root. Ryan and Michael discuss his brand new book, Churches and the Crisis of Decline: A Hopeful, Practical Ecclesiology for a Secular Age in the context of our larger conversation about hybrid ministry. Andy has written many significant books, all of which can be found here.

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This week's conversation features Rev. Stacy Williams-Duncan (CEO, Learning Forte) and Kyle Oliver (Chief Product Officer, Learning Forte). Learning Forte provides "learning-rich hybrid ministry solutions for organizations."

They are also involved in the Digital Literacy Tool Kit,  which seeks to be a "trusted resource for theological educators of all disciplines seeking to incorporate digital literacy formation across the ministry preparation curriculum."

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This week's episode features Jay Kim on hybrid ministry. The About page on jaykimthinks.com says it all:

"I’m a follower of Jesus in the Silicon Valley of California. I serve as lead pastor at WestGate Church and as a teacher at Vintage Faith Church.

I’m the author of Analog Church (InterVarsity Press, 2020), Analog Christian(InterVarsity Press, 2022), and a contributing author to Before You Lose Your Faith (The Gospel Coalition, 2021) and The Upside Down Kingdom Study Bible (Zondervan, 2023).

Some of my written work has been featured in Christianity Today, The Gospel Coalition, Missio Alliance, and Relevant Magazine.

You can email me at jay@jaykimthinks.com about just about anything. You can also connect with me on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. I’d love to hear from you!"

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This is the first episode in a digital series that I am doing in partnership with Ryan Panzer, author of Grace & Gigabytes: Being Church in a Tech-Shaped Culture. Our conversation is with Jim Keat, Digital Minister at The Riverside Church in NYC. More information about Jim can be found at his LinkIn profile, on the Sojourners website, and at jimkeat.com. 

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Today's conversation features Bethany McKinney Fox--scholar (Ph.D. Fuller Seminary), teacher, and Organizing Pastor of Beloved Everybody Church.

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This conversation features Rev. Dr. Paul Hinlicky who recently published a commentary on the book of Joshua in the Brazos Theological Commentary on the Bible series. Dr. Hinlicky is an internationally regarded interpreter of Martin Luther and of Reformation theology more broadly. Paul's many writings can be found here.

Hosting with me this week is Rev. Dr. Sarah Hinlicky Wilson, Paul's daughter and co-host of the Queen of the Sciences Podcast, which features "Conversations between a Theologian and Her Dad."

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This conversation features Dr. Sabrina Müller of the University of Zurich. There she is Managing Director University Research Priority Program «Digital Religion(s)» and Theological Executive Director Center for Church Development. This conversation features her recently published book, Lived Theology: Impulses for a Pastoral Theology of Empowerment. 

She has also written, Deadly Real: Mourning and Accompaniment after Suicide.

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Today's conversation is with Terry Wildman (Ojibwe and Yaqui). Terry is the primary driver behind the First Nations Version--a fresh translation of the NT. He also serves as the director of spiritual growth and leadership development for Native InterVarsity and is the founder of Rain Ministries. He and his wife, Darlene, live in Arizona. 

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The Revd Canon Professor Dorothy Lee is the Stewart Research Professor of New Testament in Trinity College Theological School and University of Divinity at the University of Melbourne. She is a prolific scholar of the New Testament who focuses on the canonical Gospels. In this episode we discuss her recently published book, The Ministry of Women in the New Testament.

Here are a number of publications that might be of particular interest to the Gospel Beautiful audience.

Creation, Matter and the Image of God: Essays on John. Adelaide, ATF Press, 2020

The Gospels Speak: Addressing Life's Questions. Mahwah: Paulist, 2017

A Friendly Guide to the Gospel of Matthew. Melbourne: John Garratt Publishing, 2013

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This week we are welcoming return guest, Rev. Dr. Sarah Hinlicky Wilson, who has recently published a memoir, I Am a Brave Bridge: An American Girl's Hilarious and Heartbreaking Year in the Fledgling Republic of Slovakia. Sarah is a blogger, podcaster, publisher, academic, pastor, among many other things. Her website is: https://www.sarahhinlickywilson.com/about

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This week's conversation features Rimes McElveen, Executive Director of Mere Christianity Forum, a collegiate ministry at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina and a young adult ministry resource developer." Mere Christianity Forum was recently awarded an $800,000 grant through the Lilly Endowment, as part of their Thriving Congregations Initiative.

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This conversation features Christian ethicist, Brian Brock. We discuss his recently published book, Disability: Living into the Diversity of Christ’s Body. Brock has written a number of important Christian books on Christian ethics and disability.

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This week's conversation is with Joe Davis (http://joedavispoetry.com/). We discuss his newly released album, Show Up: The Music Project. Featured on BET, CNN, and VH1, Joe Davis is a nationally-touring artist, educator, and speaker based in Minneapolis, MN. He employs poetry, music, theater, and dance to shape culture.

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This episode features Dr. Cameron Howard, my colleague and friend at Luther Seminary. Her forthcoming book is the topic of our conversation: The Old Testament for a Complex World
How the Bible’s Dynamic Testimony Points to New Life for the Church.

Cameron's other works can be found at the following:

Working Preacher
Faith+Lead Platform
Women's Bible Commentary

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This conversation features Leopoldo Sanchez, who holds a number of titles at Concordia Seminary, St. Louis. We discuss his recently published book, Sculptor Spirit: Models of Sanctification from Spirit Christology. This insightful book will be of interest to people across the church body who want to grow in their understanding of the Holy Spirit's work in the world.

Leo has authored and edited a number of important works including:

Receiver, Bearer, and Giver of God's Spirit: Jesus' Life in the Spirit as a Lens for Theology and Life(2015)

With Daniel Carroll, Immigrant Neighbors among Us: Immigration across Theological Traditions (2015)
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This conversation features Terence Lester, an Atlanta-based activist, writer, and storyteller. We focus on his recently published book, When We Stand: The Power of Seeking Justice Together. Terence is passionate about Jesus and about people. You will leave this conversation feeling energized and empowered.

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In this conversation, I speak with Matthew Thiessen about his recently published book, Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels' Portrayal of Ritual Impurity within First-Century Judaism. Without any hyperbole I can confidently say that this is one of the most important recent books I've read about Jesus. If you regularly preach or teach on the Gospels, then you need to read this book and let it shape especially how you think about Jesus' relationship to Judaism and its ritual purity system.

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This conversation features R.W.L. Moberly, professor of theology and biblical interpretation at Durham University. We talk at length about his recently published book, The Bible in a Disenchanted Age: The Enduring Possibility of Christian Faith. Professor Moberly has written numerous important books on the interpretation of the Old Testament. Those volumes can be found on his Amazon page.

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This episode features Alan Padgett, Professor of Systematic Theology at Luther Seminary. We discuss a book he recently co-edited with Kiara Jorgenson titled, Ecotheology: A Christian Conversation. Padgett is the author of many books on a wide range of topics in theology including: Faith and Reason: Three Views (with Craig A. Boyd and Carl Raschke); Blackwell Companion to Science and Christianity (edited with J.B. Stump); As Christ Submits to the Church: A Biblical Understanding of Mutual Submission and Leadership; But is it All True? The Bible and the Question of Truth (edited with Pat Keifert)

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This episode features Stephen Brookfield and Mary Hess.   Brookfield is currently Antioch University Distinguished Scholar, Adjunct Professor at Teachers College, Columbia University (New York) and Emeritus Professor at the University of St. Thomas (Minneapolis-St. Paul). Mary Hess is Professor of Educational Leadership at Luther Seminary (St. Paul, MN), where she has served since 2000.  We discuss their recently published book, Becoming a White Antiracist: A Practical Guide for Educators, Leaders, and Activists. 

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This week's conversation is with my dear friend and colleague Dirk Lange, Professor of Worship and Frederik A. Schiotz Chair of Christian Missions and deputy general secretary for ecumenical relations of the Lutheran World Federation. We discuss his recently-published book, Today Everything Is Different: An Adventure in Prayer and Action.

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This conversation features Katie Langston, author of the recently published memoir, Sealed: An Unexpected Journey into the Heart of Grace. Katie's memoir is a delightful, humorous, and witty dive into the grace of God. 

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This episode features return guest, Pastor Tyler Sit (New City Church). We discuss his forthcoming book, Staying Awake: The Gospel for Changemakers.

The launch party for the book is on April 8th at 630pm CST.

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This conversation features Amos Yong. He is the author of a 2019 volume titled, Mission after Pentecost: The Witness of the Spirit from Genesis to Revelation. Yong is based at Fuller Theological Seminary, where he holds the following positions: Chief Academic Officer, Dean of the School Of Theology and the School of Intercultural Studies, and Professor Of Theology and Mission

The author numerous books on pneumatology, disability, missiology, and Pentecostalism, Yong is one of the most influential Pentecostal voices of our time. His publications can be found either at his faculty page or on his Amazon page.

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This week's episode features Leanne Dzubinski and Anneke Stasson, authors of the newly published book, Women in the Mission of the Church: Their Opportunities and Obstacles throughout Christian History. Leanne is associate dean, associate professor of intercultural education and studies, and director of the intercultural education graduate program at Biola University. Anneke is associate professor of humanities and history at Indiana Wesleyan University. According to the publisher, Baker Academic,

"Women have been central to the work of Christian ministry and actively involved in the growth of the worldwide Christian church from the time of Jesus to the twenty-first century. Yet the story of Christianity is too often told as a story of men.

This accessibly written book tells the story of faithful women throughout church history, demonstrating their integral participation in the church's mission. It highlights the legacies of a wide variety of women, showing how they have overcome obstacles to their ministries and have transformed cultural constraints to spread the gospel and build the church. Each section of the book covers a different period of church history and introduces readers to significant women and themes of a specific era."

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This conversation features Alexus Rhone with whom I will be co-leading a workshop on March 13th. The workshop is titled, Truth, Meet Story: Intro to Storytelling.

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https://faithlead.luthersem.edu/truth-meet-story/

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This week's conversation features A.J. Swoboda, author of After Doubt: How to Question Your Faith without Losing It. Professor Swoboda teaches at Bushnell University and at Fuller Theological Seminary. Check out his Amazon page for his other publications.

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This episode features Rev. Dr. Robert Kolb, Mission Professor of Systematic Theology Emeritus at Concordia Seminary. Kolb is a prolific scholar of the Reformation and an influential voice within Lutheranism. This conversation focuses on his 2016 volume, Martin Luther and the Enduring Word of God: The Wittenberg School and Its Scripture-Centered Proclamation. For Kolb's other books, see his Amazon page or his faculty page.

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This episode features return guest, Jack Levison. He is the W.J.A. Power Professor of Old Testament Interpretation and Biblical Hebrew at Perkins School of Theology, Southern Methodist University. We discuss his recently published book, An Unconventional God: The Spirit According to Jesus (Baker Academic). Jack has been doing field-shaping work on pneumatology for years. This book is profoundly insightful and deeply researched.

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This conversation features Amy Kennedy and Dave Degler of A Christian Ministry in the National Parks. This 60 year old ministry started in Yellowstone National Park in 1951. According to their website, "Today, ACMNP lives its mission by sending roughly 200 ministry team members into 75 locations in 25 national parks from Alaska to the Virgin Islands. Over 30,000 people worship together in ACMNP services every year, experiencing the glory of God by seeing it first-hand — nothing compares to the inspiration that comes from worshipping God the Creator in the beautiful outdoors."

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This episode features Dr. Russell Jeung of San Francisco State University. We focus our conversation around his 2016 book, At Home in Exile Finding Jesus among My Ancestors and Refugee Neighbors.

According to his faculty page, "His research interests include the Sociology of Race, the Sociology of Religion, and Social Movements. Dr. Jeung is extensively engaged with his students in conducting community-based, participatory research with Asian American communities." In response to increased violence against Asian Americans, Dr. Jeung helped to start Stop AAPI Hate.

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Bethany and Rachel work for the International Association for Refugees. The plight of refugees has been one of the most significant stories of the last decade. Due to civil wars, climate change, and other dangerous factors, refugee numbers have been on the rise.  The International Association for Refugees is "an international Christian mission agency designed for ministry in humanitarian contexts." In this important conversation, we talk about the important work of the IAFR and how interested parties can support it.

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Dr. Lois Malcolm is Olin and Amanda Fjelstad Registad Chair for Systematic Theology at Luther Seminary. In this conversation, we sit down to talk about the Holy Spirit--one of our favorite to. This is also a topic on which Lois has written and taught extensively. She is frequently considered to be one of Luther Seminary's most influential professors. Her passion, energy, and insight certainly come through in this conversation.

Lois Malcolm, Holy Spirit: Creative Power in Our Lives

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This conversation features the Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon, the executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace and an ordained minister in the Evangelical Covenant Church. With a professional background that includes work at World Vision, Compassion International, and Willow Creek, Mae brings a unique perspective to the issue of activism and offers compelling and intriguing perspectives on how Christians can be involved in some of the most pressing issues of our time.

https://maecannon.com/

Her most recently book, Beyond Hashtag Activism, can be found on Amazon along with her other titles.

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In this unique Gospel Beautiful conversation, we take some time to remember Dr. Terence Fretheim was the Elva B. Lovell professor of Old Testament at Luther Seminary. A beloved teacher and scholar, Fretheim made a significant impact on the church through his teaching and scholarship. Many thanks to those who participated, including Reed Carlson, Jennifer Grangaard, Meta Herrick Carlson, Margaret Kelly, Anna Marsh, Nicholas Schaser, Daniel Stark, Justin Nickel, and Kristen Wendland.

Terry's many works can be purchased and previewd on his Amazon page. His most recent work is, God So Enters into Relationships That . . .

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This week's conversation is with Tod Bolsinger, Senior Congregational Strategist and Associate Professor of Leadership Formation at Fuller Theological Seminary. Back in 2015, Tod wrote an important book titled, Canoeing the Mountains: Christian Leadership in Uncharted Territory. It took me a few years to finally read the book, but I'm glad I did. And I think that you will appreciate the fruits of the conversation. For Tod's other books, check out his Amazon page.

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This week's conversation takes us off the familiar path into a fascinating conversation with Dr. Trygve Throntveit, an academic historian who is doing some fascinating work on the revival of civic life. This conversation is immensely important for church leaders, who lead one of America's most important spaces in which social capital is created: local congregations.

He is Director of Strategic Partnership, Minnesota Humanities Center (mnhum.org) and a Global Fellow for History and Public Policy, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars | wilsoncenter.org

In addition to authoring several important volumes, Trygve also appears on other print and online platforms, including The New York Times, Time, and The Daily Beast.

Power without Victory: Woodrow Wilson and the American Internationalist Experiment (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2017; paperback, 2017). Reviewed

William James and the Quest for an Ethical Republic (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2014; paperback, 2016).

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This conversation features Rev. Dr. Priscilla Pope Levison, author of the recently published book, Models of Evangelism (Baker Academic, 2020). The Jesus Creed blog listed it among the Top 5 Books of the Year for 2020. Priscilla is Associate Dean and Professor of Ministerial Studies at Perkins School of Theology, Southern Methodist University. She researches evangelism, women’s religious history, Methodist history and theology, contextual theology, mission, and ecumenism.

More information can be found at her website. I personally recommend checking out the following books:

Building the Old Time Religion: Women Evangelists in the Progressive Era

Turn the Pulpit Loose: Two Centuries of American Women Evangelists

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This episode features return guest Wes Granberg-Michaelson. A prolific author and former General Secretary of the Reformed Church in America (1994-2011), Wes' books are celebrated across the world. Our conversation focuses on Wes' recently published book, Without Oars: Casting Off into a Life of Pilgrimage. His numerous volumes can be found at his Amazon page.

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This episode features Ryan Panzer, author of the recently published book Grace and Gigabytes: Being Church in a Tech-Shaped Culture. Ryan has spent much of his professional life in the tech industry, working for companies such as Google and Zendesk. But Ryan is also a theologian and candidate for pastoral ministry. His book offers a vision of church in a world that is so profoundly shaped by technology, and especially social media.

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This episode features Dr. Paul R. Hinlicky, renown Lutheran theologian. We discuss his recently published book, Lutheran Theology: A Critical Introduction along with his commitments to an agrarian life, wildlife conversation, and hunting.

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This conversation features Rev. Dr. Wayne Croft, the Jeremiah A. Wright Sr. Associate Professor of Homiletics and Liturgics in African American Studies. We discuss his recently published book, A History of the Black Baptist Church: I Don't Feel No Ways Tired. This fascinating book delves into the early stages of Black Christianity in the US and ultimately focuses its attention squarely on the history of Black Baptist Churches.

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This conversation features Dr. Jason Sexton, Visiting Research Scholar at the California Center for Sustainable Communities at UCLA. We discuss the prison church, prison reform, and California. According to his own bio, "I study internal structural commitments of communities and their members and how these relate to assumed cultural and theological norms that show up in social and ethical action. My research focuses closely on California and its culture, the prison and its governance structures, contemporary religion/theology, and on convergent points where these subjects intersect.

My scholarly work has been published in academic journals like Theology, International Journal of Public Theology, Religions, Ecclesial Practices, Journal of Theological Studies, and in journals of missiology and criminology. Contributions in California religion led to an election as recent President of the largest, most diverse regional body of the American Academy of Religion (Western Region), and my contributions to California studies led to an appointment as Editor of Boom California. My academic writing has been published by presses like Routledge and Bloomsbury, while my popular writing has appeared in the LA Times, Zocalo Public Square, Los Angeles Review of Books, HarperCollins, among others."

Jason has authored, edited, and contributed to many books, articles, and essays, including:

Theology and California: Theological Refractions on California's Culture, 2014 (editor)

The Trinitarian Theology of Stanely J. Grenz, 2015 (author)

The End of Theology: Shaping Theology for the Sake of Mission, 2016 (editor)

Four Views on the Church's Mission, 2017 (editor)

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This conversation features Doug Jonson, a Development Officer with the Tacoma Area Youth for Christ. In this episode we discuss his long-time ministry with YFC, his love for kids, and his own personal journey on matters of racial justice. As someone who works regularly with kids in poverty, Doug has a unique perspective our current national conversation around racial justice. 

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This conversation features Dr. Matthew Lynch of Regent College. We discuss his own podcast, OnScript along with his recently published book, Portraying Violence in the Hebrew Bible: A Literary and Cultural Study. Violence in the Old Testament--and in the Bible more broadly--is an important topic to address, and Lynch does so masterfully in this conversation. Check it out!

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This energetic conversation features pastor and chaplain Matthew Metevelis. We talk about the call to chaplaincy and the ministry of the Gospel.

Read his most recent post on Mockingbird, "Don't Overthink It: The Gospel We All Need"

Read his most recent post on Crossings: The Call to Lament: N.T. Wright Tackles a Pandemic.

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Beth and Dave Booram are the founders of Fall Creek Abbey, where they also serve as spiritual directors. In their own words, "Fall Creek Abbey is an urban retreat house in Indianapolis thoughtfully designed for those seeking to reconnect their hearts with the heart of God. We welcome those desiring personal retreat space for half day, full day or overnight retreats, as well as meeting space for small groups and teams."

Beth and Dave Booram, When Faith Becomes Sight: Opening Your Eyes to God's Presence All Around You.

Beth Booram, Start Something New.

J. Brent Bill and Beth Booram, Awaken Your Senses: Exercises for Exploring the Wonder of God

Beth Booram, Picturing the Face of Jesus: Encountering Christ through Art

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This episode features Dr. Gary Simpson, emeritus Professor of Systematic Theology and Northwestern Lutheran Theological Seminary Chair of Theology. I have worked with Gary for many years at Luther Seminary and have grown to appreciate his insights into Luther, Cicero, and political theology.

You can find his books on Amazon and his articles in a variety of academic and theological journals. His CV can be found here.

Toward the end of the conversation, we discuss the following article, which I encourage people to read:

"Missional Congregations as Public Companions with God in Global Civil Society: Vocational Imagination and Spiritual Presence", Dialog: A Journal of Theology (2015), 54:135-150.

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This interview features Dr. Michael Moynagh, who is based at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford and is part of the UK Fresh Expressions team. We discuss his recently published book, Church in Life along with a newly developed app, FX Godsend.

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In this vacation-time episode I record a monologue from my truck in 99 degree weather in AZ. I talk about my recently published blog post at churchanew.org. 

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This conversation features the Rev. Dr. Lewis V. Baldwin, professor emeritus at Vanderbilt University. Dr. Baldwin has done significant research on Martin Luther King Jr, the Civil Rights Movement, Methodism, and Black congregational life. We talk about his work, what it was like to live through the Civil Rights Movement as a young man, and how he interprets the remarkable moment we live in today.

Many of his writings are available on Amazon. Particularly commendable is Never the Leave us Alone: The Prayer Life of Martin Luther King Jr.

His extensive bibliography can be found at the following link:

https://as.vanderbilt.edu/religiousstudies/people/baldwin.php

My recent blog post at Church Anew:

https://churchanew.org/blog/posts/michael-chan-return-to-normalcy-and-other-fleshpots

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This conversation features Dr. Danny Carroll, who has recently written a book titled, The Bible and Borders: Hearing God's Word on Immigration. Dr. Carroll is the Blanchard Professor of Old Testament at Wheaton College Graduate School and an adjunct professor at El Seminario Teológico Centroamericano in Guatemala.

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In this episode, I talk with Dr. Greg Carey of Lancaster Theological Seminary. We discuss his most recently published book, Using Our Outside Voice: Public Biblical Interpretation. In addition to introducing the wide range of interpretive methods used among biblical scholars, Carey urges his readers to consider what it means to be a "virtuous reader."

Carey's other books can be found at his Amazon page.

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This conversation features Pastor Tyler Sit of New City Church, a plant in South Minneapolis. We talk about New City Church's unique vision for promoting justice in their community, along with more contemporary issues like the horrendous killing of George Floyd.

New City Church's own podcast can be found here.

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In this episode, I talk with Air Force Chaplain Clifton Hanson about his ministry as a chaplain. We discuss the unique and remarkable role played by chaplains in the Armed Services.

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This episode features Dr. Brent Strawn (Duke Divinity School). We talked about two recent works, The Old Testament is Dying and Lies My Preacher Told Me (forthcoming with Westminster John Knox). This conversation is particularly special to me, since Brent was my doctoral supervisor at Emory University.

Brent has published hundreds of books and articles. Here are a few of my personal favorites:

The Bible and the Pursuit of Happiness
Psalms for Preaching and Worship
What Kind of God?: Collected Essays of Terence E. Fretheim

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In this conversation I talk with Pastor Salim Kaderbhai, a pastor in rural Minnesota. We talk about the killing of George Floyd and how the society-wide ripple effects are impacting his community. As an immigrant and a convert, Salim often operates across cultural and linguistic boundaries. This provides him with insight into how Christians can lead in this time.

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This conversation features Dr. A.J. Swoboda--professor, pastor, and author. We talk about his recently published book, Subversive Sabbath: The Surprising Power of Rest in a Nonstop World. With characteristic clarity and insight, A.J. addresses this ancient topic in a way that accounts for distinct pressures in the modern world. I think you'll enjoy the conversation. A.J.'s other books can be found here.

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Wilderness Time Podcast: I recently appeared on this show to talk about the Old Testament's wilderness texts.

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This conversation features Dr. Jack Levison, W. J. A. Power Professor of Old Testament Interpretation and Biblical Hebrew. We focus especially on Jack's recent publication, A Boundless God: The Spirit According to the Old Testament.

Jack is an insightful scholar and excellent communicator. I trust that you will get as much out of this conversation as I did.

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In this conversation, I talk with Dr. Reggie Williams (Associate Professor of Christian Ethics at McCormick Theological Seminary). We discuss the recent murder of George Floyd, how to lead congregations and communities toward racial justice, and his own groundbreaking research into Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus: Harlem Renaissance Theology and an Ethic of Resistance.

Justice and the Way of Jesus: Christian Ethics and the Incarnational Discipleship of Glen Stassen

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In this special edition, I speak with Rev. Timothy Jackson, pastor of Impact Living Christian Christian Center in Minneapolis, MN. This is the first of several midweek reports that Gospel Beautiful will be offering in the wake of George Floyd's recent murder. My hope and prayer is that my audience will find resources for leading faithfully in these remarkably challenging times. 

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In this fascinating conversation, I talk with Dr. Robert Saler of Christian Theological Seminary, where he serves as Research Professor of Religion and Culture, Associate Dean for Evaluation, and Executive Director of the Center for Pastoral Excellence at Christian Theological Seminary (CTS) in Indianapolis. Saler has spent a lot of time thinking about what it means to be "church," how the church should relate to culture, and the theology of the cross. We also discuss his recent and fascinating transition from Lutheranism to Orthodoxy. Do not miss this!

Links to his books are below:

Between Magisterium and Marketplace: A Constructive Account of Theology and the Church

Theologia Crucis: A Companion to the Theology of the Cross

All These Things into Position: What Theology Can Learn From Radiohead

Planning Sabbaticals: A Guide for Congregations and their Pastors

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This conversation features Dr. Brian Blount, president of Union Presbyterian Seminary. Dr. Blount has degrees from the College of William and Mary, Princeton Theological Seminary, and Emory University. He was also the president of the Society of Biblical Literature in 2018. Some of his recent publications include:

Invasion of the Dead: Preaching Resurrection (Westminster John Knox Press, 2014).

Revelation. A Commentary in the New Testament Library Series (Westminster John Knox Press, 2009).

Can I Get A Witness? Reading Revelation Through an African American Lens (Westminster John Knox Press, 2005).

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Adam Arnold is a licensed psychotherapist and co-director of Enliven Psychotherapy. This conversation focuses on religious trauma, its causes, and its treatments. Adam has degrees and certificates from Bethel University, Adler Graduate School, and the University of Minnesota.

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This conversation features Brian Schroeder, Social Media Specialist and Emerging Worship Coordinator at Lord of Life Lutheran Church (Maple Grove, MN). He also operates the Worship Forward blog, which now sponsors the Gospel Beautiful Podcast.

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In this unusual episode, several  of my students exercise their prophetic imaginations by presenting their remixed versions of Zephaniah 3.

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This conversation features Dr. Clint Schnekloth, pastor of Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Fayetteville, Arkansas. He is also the founder and chairman of the board of Canopy NWA, a refugee resettlement agency.

Our conversation focuses on faith formation in an digital age, the significance of Sci-Fi, MMORPG gaming, and virtual communion controversies. The broader cultural context is the worldwide COVID-19 pandemic currently afflicting the nations of the earth.

Clint's written work can be found in the following publications:

"Reimagining and Mediating a Progressive Christian South," in Popular Culture and the Civic Imagination: Case Studies of Creative Social Change (New York: NYU Press, 2020)

Mediating Faith: Faith Formation in a Trans-media Era (Minneapolis: Fortress, 2014)

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Dr. Terri Elton (Associate Professor, Luther Seminary) joins me this week to discuss her recently published book (Journeying in the Wilderness: Forming Faith in the 21st Century) and its implications for the current Corona Virus/COVID-19 crisis. This is a rich and relevant conversation.

Terri has also co-authored another book with Hayim Herring titled, Leading Congregations and Nonprofits in a Connected World: Platforms, People, and Purpose

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Mikka McCracken is the Executive for Innovation and the Director of the ELCA* Innovation Lab. In this conversation, we talk about her previous work with hunger relief and her new work related to innovation.

Mikka's LinkedIn page.

Mikka's 2015 Youth Gathering Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyNdMl-TC0I

*ELCA = Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Linda Hill's TED Talk, "How to Manage for Collective Creativity."

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Dr. Francis Borchardt teaches Old Testament at the Lutheran Theological Seminary in Hong Kong. In this conversation, we talk about Francis' scholarship in Daniel and 1 Maccabees and talk in depth along with what it's like to teach theology and Bible in a political contentious place like Hong Kong. 

https://lts.academia.edu/FrancisBorchardt

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In this episode, I speak with Kris Rolls, a church planter and former marketing specialist at Baker Publishing Group. We discuss some the challenges of bivocational ministry and church planting. We conclude with a conversation about church marketing basics. 

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This conversation features David Zahl, director of Mockingbird Ministries and editor-in-chief of the Mockingbird Blog. We go deep into his newly published book, Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What to Do about It.

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This conversation features Dr. Marcie Lenk. A Harvard trained scholar of Jewish and Christian history, Dr. Lenk has spent a significant amount of time thinking through how these two religious traditions relate to one another. She is an accomplished practitioner of cross-cultural and inter-religious dialogue. Using her rich knowledge of Judaism, Christianity, and the modern State of Israel, Marcie leads tours of the country that explore faith and the challenges of coexistence.

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Dr. Terence Fretheim is one of the most significant theological voices of his generation. In this conversation, Professor Fretheim and I talk about his newly published book (God so Enters into Relationship That ...), and he fields questions from my students about prophetic literature. Anyone who has had the pleasure of learning under Professor Fretheim will recognize in this conversation his characteristic charisma, passion, and insight.

Fretheim's Amazon author page.

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in this episode, I have a conversation with Pastor Adam Morton. He is a Lutheran pastor in Lancaster, Pennsylvania and a PhD student at the University of Nottingham. His dissertation deals the "image of God." A wide-ranging and fascinating topic, Adam Morton addresses his research subject with characteristic wit, insight, and rigor. Even though this conversation deals with a dissertation, Pastor Morton is a very clear communicator, making his ideas accessible to all. 

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In this conversation, I speak with Rev. Cindy Senarighi of Yogadevotion LLC. Rev Senarighi started Yoga Devotion 20 years ago (1999) after a powerful experience of God's presence in a vinyasa yoga class. You can find information about Yogadevotion's newly created online course at https://yogadevotion.com. Also, check out her co-authored book:

Cindy Senarighi and Heidi Green, Yogadevotion: Practicing in the Presence.

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Peter Benedict is a pastor at River Heights Vineyard Church in Inver Grove Heights, MN. Our conversation deals with a number of fascinating topics including, addiction recovery ministry, Gospel preaching, the book of Galatians and Revelation, and congregational diversity. Pete's compelling story and passion for the Gospel are sure to interest the Gospel Beautiful Podcast's listeners.

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This week's conversation focuses on a recently published book by Pat Keifert and Wes Granberg-Michaelson, titled, How Change Comes to Your Church: A Guidebook for Church Innovations.

Both men have literally spent decades reflecting on some of the most challenging issues of our time. But what makes their reflection so rich is the fact that so much of their reflection was done in the context of leading local churches.

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In this episode, I discuss 21st century preaching with one of its greatest practitioners, Rev. Dr. Joy Moore (@joyjmoore), Associate Professor of Biblical Preaching at Luther Seminary. Joy is a superb communicator, in and out of the pulpit. Her seemingly effortless interweaving of biblical and cultural topics is a sight to behold! Anyone interested in the task of preaching the Gospel in the 21st century will find something to appreciate in this conversation.

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In this episode, we discuss a recently published article by Rev Dr. Dwight Zscheile, titled, "Will the ELCA be Gone in 30 Years." ELCA stands for the "Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, a mainline Lutheran denomination whose numerical decline is well documented.

But these data also provide us with an opportunity to talk about how Dwight sees the Spirit at work in this critical moment.

Dwight is the author several books, all of which are can be purchased through Amazon.

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In this episode, I speak with Emilie Bouvier, a Minneapolis-based photographer, artist, and theologian. We talk about her time at Holden Village as the village artist, her love for traditional forms of photography, and her own sense of theology and art intersect. This is a rich episode that I think you all will enjoy!

A digital gallery of her work can be viewed at the following website:

http://www.emiliebouvier.com/

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In this episode, I talk with Rev. Dr. Sarah Hinlicky Wilson about a wide range of topics, including Luther's theology, her work with the Lutheran-Pentecostal dialogue, and the challenges of modern ministry.

Sarah's own podcast and newsletter can be further explored at her website, https://www.sarahhinlickywilson.com/. She has published three books:

Woman, Women, and the Priesthood in the Trinitarian Theology of Elisabeth Behr-Sigel

A Guide to Pentecostal Movements for Lutherans

Here I Walk: A Thousand Miles on Foot to Rome with Martin Luther

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In this preview clip, Rev. Dr. Sarah Hinlicky Wilson reflects on the ongoing impact of the Azusa Street Revival and offers some thoughts on how Lutherans and Pentecostals can benefit from theological dialogue. Check out Sarah's book, A Guide to Pentecostal Movements for Lutherans.

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This interview features Sara Renner, St. Paul/Minneapolis-based soul singer, worship leader, and business owner. Sara talks in-depth about her history as a musician and a Christian, reflecting on both the joys and the pain. She also gives us a glimpse into her forthcoming album, set to launch in 2020.

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Here's a preview of our recent interview with musician, songwriter, and worship leader, Sara Renner. The full length episode will be launch later this week. To connect with Sara, check our her website (https://www.sararenner.com/), email (srsoulsinger@me.com), or Facebook. 

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In this wide-ranging conversation, I talk with Andy Root about his most recent publication, The Pastor in a Secular Age. This remarkable books takes on some of the most challenging issues facing the modern minister.

Andy Root is author of many books, all of which are listed on his website.

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This interview features Pastor Jodi Bjornstad Houge (Humble Walk Lutheran Church) and Mission Developer Bethany Ringdal. The conversation is wide-ranging, covering Humble Walk Lutheran Church's remarkable and unexpected origins, entrepreneurship, the 50th anniversary of women in ministry in the ELCA, mission development, and, as a cherry on top, the baptismal service of Samuel, Bethany and Brendan Ringdal's infant son.

Pastor Jodi Bjornstad Houge's personal website.
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In this episode, I interview Rev. Dr. Mark Mattes, Professor of Theology and Philosophy at Grand View University. His CV, titles, and contact information can be found at the link below.

https://www.grandview.edu/about/directory/profile?id=000s82a

His recently published book, Martin Luther's Theology of Beauty, can be purchased at Amazon.

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In this episode, I interview Joe Davis. We talk about his story, theology, racial reconciliation, cancel culture, among many other things.

According to his website,

"Joe Davisis a nationally touring writer, speaker, and performer based in Minneapolis, MN. He is the CEO of The New Renaissance, LLC, frontman of emerging soul, funk, and spoken word ensemble, The Poetic Diaspora, and co-founder / Artistic Director of H-Cubed: Hope, Healing, Harmony, a grassroots community movement centered on healing through the arts. As a student and educator, he has served as teaching artist at dozens of high schools and universities and most recently as the Artist-in-Residence at Luther Seminary, receiving a masters in Theology of the Arts."
http://joedavispoetry.com/
The New Renaissance Ancestral Origins GoFundMe Page.

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This is a brief clip from my recent conversation with Dr. Andy Root. The longer episode is forthcoming. 

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