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Featuring guests you care about sharing stories of the fork-in-the-road moments in their lives, so that we can examine what it means to change, be changed and face change in life.

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"How I Survived The Killing Fields"Season 3, Episode 54

This episode I'm talking to Sara ImSara Im has life lessons and gained wisdom that impacts others due to her experience of surviving the mass genocide of Cambodia. Her inspirational Award-Winning Book " How I Survived The Killing Fields” was honored in 2015. As a Speaker, she shares how tenacity, perseverance , and faith are required values to conquer fear and reach success.

Here's what you'll find in this episode:00:00 Meet Sara Im, author of "How I Survived the Killing Fields"

00:54 Sara's story

17:00 Interview with Sara Im

23:04 How Sara's mother and brothers survived

24:57 Sara reflects on what 'change' means to her, answers questions from the Change Hub Ibble community and more.

39:42 Final thoughts from Sara Im

41:44 Final thoughts from the host

You can purchase a copy of Sara's book here: https://www.saraim.com/book

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Allan “Alonzo” Wild’s Andean Adventures and BeyondSeason 3, Episode #53 About AJ:Allan J. "Alonzo" Wind is a retired Senior Foreign Service Officer from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), having worked on and off with the Agency primarily overseas on diplomatic assignments from 1990 to 1992 and 1999 to 2019 in the Peru, Nicaragua, Angola, Nigeria, Iraq, Afghanistan and South Africa and the Southern Africa USAID Regional Missions. He provided oversight to U.S. government foreign aid development and humanitarian assistance, and supported U.S. Ambassadors as their senior development officer on multiple U.S. Embassy Country Teams. What's inside this episode:00:00 Meet Alonzo! 02:04 Allan J. "Alonzo" Wind's story 05:53 Interview begins with the question "Where in the world are you right now AJ?" (hint: somewhere in the Middle East...) 07:31 A discussion of the historical and current political climate regarding the Israeli/Palestinian conflict 20:50 Is peace in the middle east possible? 24:20 AJ's life as an explorer: when you call so many places home, where does it feel like home-base? 26:10 AJ's dip into Science Fiction Writing 30:15 How our moments that change us shape our view of the world and of our selves 33:00 AJ's thoughts on what it takes to change people's minds 41:25 Oversimplifying solutions to big problems/Actively seeking to shift your own perspective. 47:22 Final thoughts from guest, AJ "Alonzo" Wild 49:23 Closing thoughts from the host

Helpful Links related to this discussion:Visit https://enableennoble.net/ (Alonzo Wind's website) to read AJ's blog, get a copy of his recent memoir Andean Adventures and more. Watchhttps://www.netflix.com/title/80113612 ( Fauda on Netflix) Read John McWhorter's controversial book, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B095JLK96B/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0 (Woke Racism )

Looking to connect with our guest?https://twitter.com/galacticemp (@galacticemp on Twitter) https://www.facebook.com/allan.windauthor.39/ (Allan "Alonzo"'s Facebook page) © 2021 The Changed Podcast https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=adennepom (This podcast is hosted by Captivate, try it yourself for free.)

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Bo Roberts and a Message from BeyondSeason 3, episode 52 This episode I'm talking to model, actor, & film maker Bo Roberts From the pages of GQ, Cosmo, and Esquire, to the silver screen ("300: Rise of an Empire", "Mindy Project," etc.), Indian-born, ISU-grad, former corrections officer/CERT Team member, filmmaker Bo Roberts elevated his photography hobby to a career as a filmmaker. The director/cinematographer's debut (short) feature film (60min), "The Great Awakening" is a thriller with science-fiction elements.  Here's what you'll find in this episode:0:34 meet Bo Roberts 1:43 Bo Roberts Story 8:33 An interview of Bo Roberts, beginning with some discussion of recent film project, The Great Awakening. Our discussion includes how he came to choose that particular title and more. 17:09 Bo talks about moving from in front of the camera as a model and actor to behind the camera as a film maker. 26:23 Bo's reflection on the meaning of change 28:49 The perspective shifting experience of working as a corrections officer 34:43 Grandpas, Ghosts, and making sense of the supernatural 41:07 Final thoughts from Bo 44:07 Final thoughts from the host Watch Bo's Works: The https://tubitv.com/movies/677232/the-great-awakening?start=true (Great Awakening on Tubi TV) Follow Bo! @MrBoRoberts on https://www.facebook.com/MrBoRoberts (Facebook), on https://twitter.com/mrboroberts (Twitter), on https://www.instagram.com/mrboroberts/ (Instagram) © 2021 The Changed Podcast https://the-changed-podcast.captivate.fm/ (The Changed Podcast with Aden Nepom website) https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=adennepom (This podcast is hosted by Captivate, try it yourself for free.)

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We're kicking off season 3 with THE GIGI Rowe!Season 3, episode 51 About Gigi RoweThe multi-faceted Gigi Rowe was called "fantastically talented" by the one-and-only Jay Z. The singer, songwriter, children's book author and children's podcast creator was formerly signed to Island Def Jam Records by the legendary LA Reid. Gigi was the first-ever recipient of the https://www.songhall.org/scholarships/view/laura_warshauer (Songwriter Hall of Fame Buddy Holly Prize )(from Songmasters) and she has had songs featured on the globally-adored interactive video game Just Dance. Gigi is the voice of summer TV on Netflix and Amazon, with two songs prominently featured on Amazon's new Prime Video dating series The One That Got Away, that premiered in late June and Netflix series Boo, Bitch, which premiered in early July. Gigi Rowe's debut album Laura is out September 30. In this episode Gigi shares her experience being signed to Island Def Jam records, only to be dropped before she could pop. We bond over a love of wigs. She goes into great depth about her collaboration with Tik Tokker Claybaby Here's what you'll find in this episode:01:36 Gigi Rowe shares her story 08:24 We move into my interview of Gigi Rowe 11:40 Some indulgent bonding time over a couple of wigs 21:34 Lonely Together 23:17 The wig comes off... 23:48 Gigi talks about collaborating with TikTok star Claybaby 40:49 How Laura Warshauer came to know and understand Gigi Rowe 43:05 All about Gigi's latest album Laura 45:12 The story of a magical recording moment on a farm in New Jersey 48:15 Gigi's thoughts on change, personal evolution and shifting how you think about things 54:33 A few closing thoughts from the host Helpful linkshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0_NoskqnYk (Gigi Rowe + Claybaby = Song: So Iconic!) - Here's one of the absolute best songs ever! It's the brain child of Tik Tokker Clababy and Singer Gigi Rowe: So Iconic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj_yRR4e49U (Lollipops music video on YouTube) - Speaking of bonding over wigs... this is the music video where Gigi's love of wigs became completely apparent! https://ffm.to/gigirowe_laura (Laura - The Latest album from Gigi Rowe) - Listen to Gigi Rowe's latest release.

Want to connect with Gigi Rowe? https://hellogigirowe.com/ (Gigi's Website) https://twitter.com/hellogigirowe (@hellogigirowe on Twitter) https://instagram.com/hellogigirowe (@hellogigirowe on Instagram) © 2021 The Changed Podcast https://the-changed-podcast.captivate.fm/ (The Changed Podcast with Aden Nepom website) https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=adennepom (This podcast is hosted by Captivate, try it yourself for free.)

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The first episode is here! This episode of the Changed Podcast KIDS features Maxwell from Austin, Texas. Amelia and I are so excited! Our first conversation is finally available for you to listen to! Maxwell is 7 years old and lives in Texas. He loves animals, video games, imagination games, dinosaurs, and chocolate! And... he is actually the reason we are even doing https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/kids/the-changed-podcast-kids/ (this project! ) That's right! The whole idea came from a conversation Maxwell had with his http://www.merlin-works.com (mama), who then made a joke that became the best idea in the whole wide world. In this conversation, we learned that: Kids know a lot of stuff That you can be brave even when something scary (like falling off your bike happens) That sometimes grownups are more scared than kids (according to Maxwell, the fun stuff in particular!) And our co-host, Amelia, discovered that she actually had a lot in common with Maxwell, even though they live far apart.

Amelia says: "You can learn a lot in one hour. For the time we recorded, me and maxwell both got hungry afterward!" Would you rather watch this episode on https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL14OGMeZ6r4MWkIBBAdLV4oY45J7d6K2s (YouTube)? YOU CAN!! Just https://youtu.be/8Row1ExQ0l0 (click here)

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Wondering what's in-store between seasons 2 and 3? It's a sweet little mini-series of interviews on the Changed Podcast Kids! After interviewing 50 guests on the Changed Podcast, I am so very excited to bring in a new perspective... the voices, thoughtsAfter interviewing 50 guests on the Changed Podcast, I am so very excited to bring in a new perspective... the voices, thoughts, and stories of kids! For this mini-series, I have a brand new co-host too! You may recall https://thechangedpodcast.com/about-the-changed-podcast/ (my stepdaughter is the origin) of the Changed Podcast, and since I wanted to talk to kiddos about their experiences, who better to help me do that than my own amazing kiddo, Amelia! Unlike our regular season, these episodes will come out sporadically over the next couple of months as we work around Amelia's school schedule, custody schedule (since we split her time between our house and her mama's house), and the ups and downs in the life of an 8-year-old. That being said, our first episode has already been recorded, and we are excited to bring you the first interview VERY SOON! In the meantime, we recorded a little trailer, to help you get excited. AND if you believe your child would make an excellent guest on The Changed Podcast KIDS, we invite you to submit them by https://artofchange.typeform.com/KidsPodcast (filling out this form)!

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This episode is not just the 50th episode of this podcast (WOW!), but it also brings to a close an amazing second season of this show. What better guest than Nancy Davis Kho, host of https://midlifemixtape.com/ (the Midlife Mixtape Podcast)https://midlifemixtape.com%29%2C/ (,) and author of the book: The Thank You Project, Cultivating Happiness One Letter of Gratitude at a Time.Nancy Davis Kho is a speaker, author, and podcaster whose work has appeared in the Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, and NPR affiliate KQED. Nancy is also the author of the book https://daviskho.com/the-thank-you-project/ (THE THANK-YOU PROJECT: Cultivating Happiness One Letter of Gratitude at a Time) published by Running Press. Nancy covers “the years between being hip and breaking one” at http://www.midlifemixtape.com/ (MidlifeMixtape.com) and on the https://midlifemixtape.com/midlife-mixtape-podcast (Midlife Mixtape Podcast), available on all major podcast platforms. The Midlife Mixtape Podcast won a 2020 Iris Award as Podcast of the Year and was included in the Wall Street Journal’s list of 8 Podcasts for Anyone Nervously Facing Retirement. Nancy has also been both champion and judge in the acclaimed international comedy-lit improv show, Literary Death Match! More on Nancy can be found on her website, at http://www.daviskho.com (www.DavisKho.com.) And for the 50th episode of The Changed Podcast, which also brings to an end the second season of the show, I could not think of a better guest than Nancy Davis Kho! I like to think that I express my gratitude often and well, but Nancy has dug deeper than arguably the majority of us, and certainly far deeper than I have, producing 50 separate thank you letters, not just to people but to places, and whole swaths of the entertainment industry that have shaped her, inspired her and helped her become who she is today. Clearly, we can all learn something about saying thank you from someone who has really put in the time and effort to do so as thoroughly as Nancy Davis Kho. What's in this episode?A longer than necessary discussion as to whether or not Nancy and I have met before, or if we just look like other people (spoiler alert, we look like other people A midlife specific on the moments that shape us the reality that reaching midlife means you have seen and experienced some pretty significant things Thoughts on the gifts overcoming struggle, loss, and challenge can leave us with The relationship between grief and processing change (shoutout to previous guest https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/andrew-williams/ (Andrew Williams)!) Does empathy come with age and experience? Two book suggestions! 1) https://www.amazon.com/Other-Bennet-Sister-Novel/dp/1250129419 (The Other Bennet Sister) by Janice Hadlow and 2) https://www.amazon.com/Sweetbitter-Stephanie-Danler/dp/1101911867 (Sweetbitter) by Stephanie Danler Nancy's journey of writing two books (and then 50 letters of gratitude later) and then a third book! Lessons learned from saying thank you, and more importantly thinking about the specific reasons you are grateful A long closing statement from me expressing gratitude for all of you who listen to the show, and read the show notes! (You're the best!) Shoutouts to the Super Seven (the first seven guests of this show) https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/mary-jo-pehl/ (Mary Jo Pehl, Mo Daviau, Dr. Rick Kirschner, BJ Lange, )https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/nadine-montaghami/ (Nadine Montaghami), https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/rick-brinkman/ (Dr. Rick Brinkman), and https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/guillermo-martinez/ (Guillermo Martinez )(have you seen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ak5dFt8Ar0 (The Mitchell's vs the Machines) yet??? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???)

A few Memorable Quotes from Nancy"I think if you haven't been tossed around a little bit, by the time you hit your 40s and 50s, you are in a very, very tiny...

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In Episode 49 of The Changed Podcast Wade McCollum, who has acted on Broadway, in film, and on TV, shares his unique experiences with time, the profound & the mundane, and two stories that illustrate the relationship between our expectations, understanding of ourselves, and our realities.You may have heard of https://www.instagram.com/wademccollum/?hl=en (Wade McCollum). As an American film actor, stage actor, composer, and musician, Wade is https://www.broadwayworld.com/people/Wade-McCollum/ (best known) for his roles as Hedwig in Hedwig and the Angry Inch, and Ernest Shackleton in Ernest Shackleton loves me for which he won the https://www.elliotnortonawards.com/2016-1 (Norton Award for Best Actor )and was nominated for the https://www.lortelaward.com/2018lucillelortelawards (Lortel Award )in the same category. These days, he can be found buried in his neuroscience textbooks as a student at the University of Pennsylvania. Wade is truly remarkable and multi-talented, so it may be no surprise that like previous guests https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/maraya-brown/ (Maraya Brown) and https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/lou-radja/ (Lou Radja), Wade is also an alum of Ashland High School. Like many of the programs at Ashland High School, The drama program at AHS is one of the best (thanks to the brilliant thinking of Betsy Bishop marrying the program to the prestigious https://www.osfashland.org/ (Oregon Shakespeare Festival), which continually attracts some of the world's top talent). All of that is to say that any time I get to sit down and talk with Wade McCollum, it carries simultaneously that sweet feeling of the relief I associate with what is most familiar, AND the excitement of what's new because both of our lives are filled with shifts, changes, and curiosity. There is just so very much to talk about! This may just be my favorite interview of the season! What's in this episode?How this actor's brain handles memorization Why Wade wasn't able to be part of season 1 as originally planned How having and recovering from Covid effected Wade A rich discussion of human adaptation Why #youchanged would make an excellent complement to give! The incredible contrast of human interpretation. My mundane can be your profound, and vice versa How our earliest experiences shape our assumptions about what other people's lives should look like How we digest other people's stories to represent profound meaning to ourselves as humans Two stories that demonstrate how our expectations and understanding of reality aren't always well met. A glimpse into the exciting realm of Medical Music and why Wade is now studying neuroscience after decades of making a living as a performer.

A few memorable things Wade McCollum said:"I'm up there thinking, you know what, there's 3000 people watching the show right now... they're having that fulcrum experience where they may never be the same. And I'm literally at my office job. The juxtaposition of that is so incredible" "When you're born into something, the assumption is that's life. That's life, and there's no other, you know, there's no other way to do it, because that's the way it's done." "They said, 'We're the, we're the different ones. Most people live in a house. And they stay there. And most people don't move around like we do and go from town to town.' Everything just went boom, and suddenly I was the anomaly. And it was so fundamental, I could feel my brain change." "Humans as a species are like story eaters. Rather than, throw the story up, this is a gross analogy, our tendency is to digest it. And in that process of digestion, there's that refinement, where we're like, 'what nutrients am I going to take from that story that are useful to my particular lens and narrative, what I'm thinking about how I'm looking at the world right now and what I'm working on?' And that's such a beautiful and incredible gift as a human species. what an amazing thing!" "There's...

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Episode 48 of the Changed Podcast features Dr. Ian Brooks, on the power of mindset, living a life of intention (which includes Netflix and chips!), and his own self-determination even as he narrowly escaped the wreckage of a collision in his own fork-in-the-road story.http://www.rhodessmith.com (Dr. Ian Brooks) started off working in a clinical psychology ward eventually transitioning to work with "higher functioning individuals." Over the span of his 25+ year career helping people move forward. He's worked with clients that include Netflix, Shondaland, Bank of America, Guitar Center, Nike Inc. Sony, and Warner Brothers. Most recently, Dr. Brooks is the author of Intention: Building Capabilities to Transform Your Story which integrates research and personal journey that drives readers toward introspection and action. His contagious smile and upbeat demeanor might fool you into thinking achieving Transformation is easy! And it is! But also, it's challenging, it's hard work, and it absolutely takes https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/julia-decaneva/ (intention). Our conversation weaves through the ins and outs of intentional transformation, what the nuances are between transformation and change, and the difference that intention makes throughout all of it. What's in this episode?The differences in getting patient compliance in a closed setting, like a lockdown facility vs the open setting of the general population The difference between achieving personal transformation, and making personal changes The relationship between fear of change and the power of belief when it comes to transformation Why Ian doesn't cry anymore How Dr. Brook's book, is really a second draft, which serves as an excellent reminder that failure isn't always failure and that we have a choice about how we move forward from setbacks How easy it is to let challenges stop us from doing the good and important things in life Ian's personal fork-in-the-road story from a moment when he was in a motorcycle accident How living with purpose and intention does not mean that you don't get to also enjoy spacing out, eating chips, and lazing on the couch watching Netflix

A few memorable things Ian Brooks said in this interview:"We only have 24 hours in this day. We were only promised the next second. That's it. And I can't tell you what I'm going to do with that next second. But I can tell you that it's going to be done with purpose. I don't want to waste time." "If you want to kick your feet up and eat a whole bag of potato chips and watch Netflix all day, you're doing with that purpose, whether you realize it or not. Now, if your purpose is really to go out there and exercise, well, then that's a different conversation. But you're still doing what you're doing with purpose because you are doing it intentionally, and that's okay. It isn't always necessarily outcome-based. Sometimes that purpose is: I just need to get lost in my thoughts." "I can do more than what I'm defined by in this motorcycle injury or otherwise." "The power of the mind is very interesting. As we think about fear, and the reasons why we don't do certain things, or even potentially the reasons we do, it's very interesting in the context of specifically, this idea of change. Because we do things quite a bit out of fear, not necessarily providing the context around, how do we actually move forward?" "Change is: I can get someone to do something one day, in a particular moment in time, and just taking very targeted steps to do something different. That's a lot different than transformation, which I think a lot of people are really reaching for. And that is building it into your fabric of who you are."

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Josh Braun, the host of the Inside Selling Podcast, shares his thoughts on why it's so critical to learn how to listen fully, how sales superpowers are really just human communication superpowers and the moment that shifted ALL of his priorities.https://www.joshbraun.com (Josh Braun) is known for helping people learn to sell without being salesy, creepy, sleazy, and without selling their souls. We met back in 2006 when he hired me for my first exciting grown-up job working as a comedy writer for an educational software product. Yes. You read that sentence correctly. I'll never forget this particular fork-in-the-road moment: I had just come home from my absolutely awful temp position processing mortgage applications, and I'd decided I was done. I hated my job and knew I had so many other skills to offer, but didn't really have any clue what I was looking for. It was 11 pm at night by the time I found the unconventional job posting in the Gigs section of Craigslist that sounded like it was written by a human who was introducing themselves at a friend's house. It was written in such a funny voice, I thought it might be some kind of joke! Feeling punchy and like I had nothing to lose, I went ahead and responded to the ad. This was a job where humans seemed like they might actually get to act like humans, and I wanted a piece of that! With unbelievable amounts of honesty that included fun facts about my work ethic and my t-shirt collection, I made sure that the flirtiest, goofiest, biggest, and boldest parts of my personality showed up to the cover letter party. I wasn't trying to be the person that fit the role. I wanted to be the human that these humans were excited to meet. At 1:30 am I sent the cover letter and my resume to the email address provided. The phone rang just before 8 am that same morning. It was Josh's voice on the other end of the line "That's the best cover letter I've ever read. No joke, I'm framing it and putting it on my wall." While both of our paths have taken us away from the kind of work we shared at that particular company in 2006, the elements that brought us together in the first place have remained a priority for both of us in our separate endeavors: simple, humble, human communication. I use these skills to teach storytelling and to help teams work well with each other. He uses these skills to teach sales; but, we're not just teachers. We're students too. What's in this episode?Why trying to change people's minds feels frustrating What you might want to try instead Why it's helpful to shine a light on the cost of inaction What is Motivational Interviewing? Why is it helpful? How modern technology is affecting the way we communicate What happened to cause Josh to realize that instead of money, he needed to prioritize the moments and the people in life that he cares about the most.

Memorable Things Josh Braun Said:"You don't control other people. You don't control your revenue number, you don't control how people respond to your message. You don't control your quota. You don't control if people are going to hang up on you. You don't control if something's going to change. https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/lou-radja/ (You only control what is in your nature )to be able to control: what you say, what you want to do, how you conduct yourself, how you behave, and your thoughts." "When we start to change people's minds, we often are met with resistance because people don't like it when other people take away their freedom to choose you telling a teenager to stop smoking naturally start to smoke more, it's actually something called https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/reshanda-yates/ (the backfire effect)." "The secret skill is to actually https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/gary-hirsch/ (make the other person feel heard). That is a skill that a lot of people take for granted-- listening--because we do it all the time. And it's a tragedy because unless we realize that...

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Voice Actor Greg Campbell has a voice as smooth as butter. In Episode 46 of The Changed Podcast, he shares how he found himself making the leap from television to sharing his unique voice narrating films, commercials, and audiobooks. He also opens up about his experience as a black parent who has witnessed so much change and is continuing to witness profound change and the importance of the people who help us along our journeys through life.https://www.gregcvoiceovers.com/ (Greg Campbell) is a Voiceover artist with a distinctive voice. He provided his voice for the 2021 Emmy award-winning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe3ckZPy5M8 (documentary Shaw Rising) about the oldest HBCU in the south. He has also voiced nationally aired commercials for https://ford.com (Ford), during the Kentucky Derby, and https://www.kumhotireusa.com/us/index.do (Kumho) tires featuring NBA All-Star https://www.nba.com/player/202322/john_wall (John Wall )of the Houston Rockets. He's also the brand voice for the apparel company, https://myshux.com/ (Shux.) In our conversation, Greg shared some of his professional journey: starting out in TV in Michigan and ending up performing voiceovers in Florida. He also shared some of his personal journey as a parent and a grandson. Most of all, his story and perspective both serve to highlight how the people we know and connect with throughout our lives, impact the trajectory of our personal experiences, careers and more. What's in episode 46?An introduction to Greg Campbell, not just what he does, but how he IS as a human How Greg started out as a voice actor narrating audiobooks One of his favorites: https://www.amazon.com/Motown-Man-Bob-Campbell/dp/1988214394 (Motown Man by Bob Campbell )(due to be available in audiobook soon... featuring Greg's dulcet tones), a story that tackles questions of race and identity through the lens of an interracial couple who meet and fall in love in 1991. A discussion of what has changed in the conversation on race, in our behaviors, and understanding of each other and history since the 90s What is still changing The role that https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/gary-hirsch/ (family story telling )plays in teaching important history Carla! (and a thank you to Carla) The importance of great friends The https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/kendrick-shope/ (role of instinct) in who and how we trust A reference to a 1977 episode of The Bionic Woman that almost became its own show, https://www.nbc.com/the-bionic-woman/video/the-bionic-dog-part-1/3800077 (The Bionic Dog)!

A few memorable quotes from Greg Campbell"Change means to me: there's always something better down the road, something, something good on the way. For me, it's always been like that." "[Since 1991] I think there's been some changes, you know. Unfortunately, when there is change, there seems to be backlash, too often." "I think that one of the biggest things with change is fear. I think people you know, live too much in fear a little bit. There's a lot of things that's scary out there, that can scare you. But I've always challenged myself, and just try to just keep going, keep moving, and just allow change to come. You got to embrace it, it comes. Some things you know, you can't control. It's part of it, not being able to control it. But, you know, you look at your experiences, and you say, I'm better for it. I'm glad I've tried to have an open mind and live my life that way." 'What you may see in the news nowadays. You know, they talk about what happened in https://www.tulsahistory.org/exhibit/1921-tulsa-race-massacre/ (Tulsa, Oklahoma), and all that. My grandmother told me about that stuff. I mean, I already knew." "I kind of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJgmaHkcFP8 (go by Maya Angelou) a little bit, you know, the person tells you who they are the first time. Believe 'em, you know. I kind of live by that a little bit. I mean, because down the road, that first impression means a lot....

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In this episode, playwright Adrienne Dawes shares her thoughts on the relationship between stagecraft and change, and the specific role of comedy and satire in giving people an opportunity to reflect. She also shares her own journey of paying attention to red flags and then doing something about them which has led her to the program she is currently completing.http://www.adriennedawes.com/ (Adrienne Dawes) is a playwright, producer, and teaching artist from Austin, TX, currently completing a graduate fellowship at the University of Arkansas. Her plays include http://www.adriennedawes.com/thisbitch (This Bitch), http://www.adriennedawes.com/hairy-sherri (Hairy & Sherri), http://www.adriennedawes.com/plays/#/teendad (T)http://www.adriennedawes.com/plays/#/teendad/ (een Dad), and her play http://www.adriennedawes.com/am-i-white (Am I White) won the David Mark Cohen New Play Award from the Austin Critics Table and an award for Outstanding Original Script by the B. Iden Payne Awards. Adrienne’s full-length plays have been produced by Salvage Vanguard Theater (Austin, TX), Sacred Fools (Los Angeles, CA), and American Theatre Company (Tulsa, OK). She has developed new work with Teatro Vivo, Salt Lake Acting Company, The Workshop Theater, Queen City New Play Initiative, the Fire This Time Festival, B Street Theatre, Stages Repertory Theatre, Teatro Milagro, National Black Theatre, and English Theatre Berlin. Adrienne is a member of the Dramatists Guild, ScriptWorks, and a company member ofhttp://www.salvagevanguard.org/ ( Salvage Vanguard Theater) and https://www.inthemargin.org/about (In the Margin Theatre Company). Learn more at http://www.adriennedawes.com (www.adriennedawes.com) What's in this episode?Thoughts about the role of satire, comedy, and theatre in general in societal shift and personal change How working with/studying with fantastic people can make or break your experience at school, at work, and in the rest of your endeavors The enticing nature of stability and routine Her story of noticing the red flags of a program she was excited about, and choosing to take action rather than align herself with an organization that she thought was treating it's people poorly An invitation to leaders (and people in general really), that if you're going to ask people questions, listen to their answers and then do something with what you learn!

A few things Adrienne said that stood out"You can https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/lou-radja/ (plant this little seed in somebody). When they've opened up, and they're a little more vulnerable to that conversation, I think a lot of the work is just planting that little seed of change" "There's https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/shannon-stott/ (this essential part of who I am) as a human that stays the same, no matter what my location is, or what I'm doing. And my friends, too, there's a quality to the people that I am drawn to that are in my closest circle that kind of stays the same, even though they're wildly different people." "Financially, the smart decision would have been to just shut my mouth, take their money, and, and suffer. Financially, that would have been smart, but https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/aoife-obrien-happier-at-work/ (in terms of my happiness), the route was to get out" "As I get older, more experienced, I'm just sort of like, I have a shorter timeframe of like, 'Yes, I want to try to give people a chance to course-correct.' But also, like there's a window of that before it's excessive and it's actually harmful for you to be in this https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/melissa-thornley/ (very negative toxic work environment)." "It's really about listening to your gut... a couple of red flags is enough. You don't need to wait for things to blow up. You can just have a couple of red flags and go" "I will admit that it's hard to be thehttps://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/todd-cherches/ ( leader,) it's hard to be in charge of...

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Margery Arnold is co-host of the Positive Thinpact Podcast. In this episode, she discusses her health, the challenges of having co-morbidities for Covid, and how losing her mother at the age of 24 was either a devastating end to life as she knew it, a challenging beginning to live as she is... or both.If you're not familiar with the https://open.spotify.com/show/4fFwHtjalp1gU6C77kVm3f (Positive Thinpact Podcast), this was a project that Margery and I started in 2019. She had a wild idea, that perhaps one could hold on to the excitement of learning the rules of a new fad-diet as a way of gaming the brain to avoid the moment of self-sabotage that inevitably comes after a few weeks on a stringent eating plan. What better way to catalog such a journey than on a podcast?! At the time, her goal was to lose 250lbs. Now as wild as this idea was, she wanted to start the project, not with a doctor, dietician, or natural health expert at her side... but instead with me a friend and facilitator with a background in improv and play. Margery and I have been friends for nearly 15 years... if our friendship was a person, it would be a teenager! I suppose that means that our friendship is filled with honest opinions and unreasonable confidence in wild ideas being worth some attention. I've heard many stories about her mom over the years, we used to meet up and share a piece of cheesecake to commemorate her mother's life on the anniversary of what would have been her birthday. But hearing her story in the context of this interview, gave me a new perspective on my friend's experience. It also allowed me an opportunity to reflect on grief, the impact of losing a loved one, and more. What you'll hear in this episode:For listeners of Positive Thinpact, there is a long-overdue update about how Margery's journey has been going (or had been going at the time of this interview's recording, in the spring of 2021) How to handle your opinions about other people's weight gain, weight loss, and other body changes The invisibility of being fat Thoughts on choosing to take medication to lose weight, in light of the dangers of covid for those who have health and weight issues The status of the Positive Thinpact Podcast How someone who is analytical by nature, and well-practiced at studying data and recognizing patterns, processes change. A discussion of the human ability to predict the future, and the accuracy of predictions The importance of pattern recognition The pivotal experience of losing her mother to inflammatory breast cancer following https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/maraya-brown/ (standard hormone therapy )for menopause The impact of having cared for a https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/brian-macmillan-kptv/ (dying parent) as a person in her early 20s An acknowledgment of how individuals grieve differently and a few suggestions for those who know someone currently grieving The key idea when you lose a parent young, you end up living two lives: the one when they are still alive, and the one in which they no longer exist. How life might have turned out differently, better in some ways, worse in some ways, had mom survived

A few links to check out:The book Margery referenced is called https://www.amazon.com/Motherless-Daughters-Legacy-Loss-Anniversary/dp/0738217735/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgviIBhBkEiwA10D2j6TWCmHLi0_QR1DFYLnVT9nirz82OsbI1EmmV0pTu8jHkIYk87qT_xoC7XgQAvD_BwE&hvadid=241619600533&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9032878&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=4621187081119453607&hvtargid=kwd-11390016387&hydadcr=22565_10355049&keywords=motherless+daughters+book&qid=1629404098&sr=8-1 (Motherless Daughters): The Legacy of Loss and was written by Hope Edelmen Positive Thinpact can be listened to here: https://anchor.fm/positivethinpact (https://anchor.fm/positivethinpact) "Try to look for the good, no matter the change. There are positive outcomes to be had, no matter how horrific the

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In episode 43 of The Changed Podcast, intentional living coach Julia de'Caneva shares why she is so highly attuned to the fact that our lives are short and rarely end at an expected and anticipated moment.Julia de'Caneva (dee-kuh-nay-vuh) is an intentional living coach with an insatiable curiosity for human behavior and a penchant for sweet potatoes and sunsets. She brings the lessons she learned from cancer to help over-workers and perfectionists slow down and find balance by clarifying what truly matters to them. She fell in love with intentional living while working as a professional home organizer, and now one of her three pillars of coaching is the process of internal decluttering which she calls intentionalism. You can find her musing about intentional living on her http://www.julia.coach/ (blog), and she'll encourage you to find moments of ease in each day if you follow her on https://www.instagram.com/life.coach.julia/ (Instagram). When not coaching, Julia devours books and podcasts, takes many photos of flowers on her daily walks, and is improving her handle of the Japanese language. She hopes that everyone will slow down and learn to treat life as precious as it is. What's in this episode?What it means to live intentionally The value of slowness and really enjoying each and every day as the beautiful and fleeting gift it is Two of Julia's transformational pivot points in her journey with https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/bj-lange-resiliency-retired-usaf-medic/ (cancer) A reminder that the severity of a situation is often more obvious to those around us than to ourselves A discussion of the illusion of safety and longevity. In other words, we so often tend to obsess over creating safety or stability for ourselves and our loved ones, but it is impossible to predict whether or not we'll be successful where there is still randomness in the universe. We could get hit by a bus at any time. The importance of caring for and listening to our bodies to make the most of the precious moments we do have.

Additional readingInterested in decluttering your physical space? Check out https://www.amazon.com/Life-Changing-Magic-Tidying-Decluttering-Organizing/dp/1607747308/ref=asc_df_1607747308/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312057361370&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4361484736159055897&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032878&hvtargid=pla-406163962033&psc=1 (The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up) by Marie Kondo Interested in decluttering your brain at work? I'm starting this book this week, feel free to join me! Noise: a Flaw in Human Judgenment by Daniel Kahneman, Olivier Sibony, et al. Julia de'Caneva's Blog: https://julia.coach/blog (https://julia.coach/blog)

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In Episode 42 of The Changed Podcast, Philippe Barbe reminds us of our adaptability as humans, and that we don't have to work as hard as we might think to experience profound change.Who is Philippe Barbe?https://ph-barbe.com/ (Philippe) is a leader, expert, and trusted advisor in data science, AI, and mathematics with a wide range of experiences in the business industry, government, and research internationally. He is the author of five books and many scientific papers and has been an invited professor at numerous universities worldwide, including Yale and Georgia Tech here in the US. He is the mastermind at http://lastditchconsulting.com/ (Last Ditch Consulting) When a mutual connection https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-ferguson-85674/ (Ken Ferguson), heard that I hosted this podcast, he immediately said, "I know someone you'd probably find interesting." He was right. This conversation was one of the most philosophically stimulating interviews I've done to date. We wove through philosophies, observations, both big picture and detailed, with great ease. AND I believe I learned a few things too! There are a few things that are different about this episode than the interviews I've shared with other guests. First, though he's certainly https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/aoife-obrien-happier-at-work/ (not my only guest) originally born outside the US, Philippe's origins in France, and 20 years as a citizen here have yielded some different perspectives about how we interact, how we handle conflict, and so on. Another difference, when I asked for a recent headshot, he originally provided an image from a textbook... which actually, I seriously considered using! Finally, instead of sharing one singular moment, Philippe takes us through several fork-in-the-road moments that he has witnessed, experienced, and been changed by to illustrate the profoundly constant nature of changes both big and small in our lives. Note: this episode benefits from subtitles. I recommend you either download the transcript or https://www.patreon.com/posts/54532422 (watch the video with subtitles on our Patreon page), which for this episode is absolutely free for the public. Philippe requested to conduct this as an audio-only interview, so you'll be able to enjoy the subtitles distraction-free. What will you find in this episode?Philippe Barbe's unique approach to solving impossible or novel problems and why he founded Last Ditch Consulting The importance of providing value to the clients you serve The job of a researcher and the importance of proof in mathematics The difficulty of proof in the math of social interaction A minor history lesson in the philosophy of change A deep discussion on whether or not change is easy, or change is hard Our thoughts on why people seem to refuse to acknowledge obvious changes, like aging A few snapshots from Philippe's passage through life and how these changes have changed him One deeper dive into the moment when his house got running water A discussion of the relationship between change and difficulty You're right to change, on your own terms. Not to change just for the sake of changing, but to think about change in terms of bettering the world we live in.

Want to connect with Philippe?You can learn more about Philippe at https://ph-barbe.com/ (https://ph-barbe.com) Check out Last Ditch Consulting at: http://lastditchconsulting.com/ (www.lastditchconsulting.com) And if you’d like to connect with him, the best place to do so ishttps://www.linkedin.com/in/ph-barbe/ ( on LinkedIn)

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Kendrick Shope shares her thoughts on trusting your intuition, finding your zone of genius, and the little forks that leads to the big forks in life, in episode 41 of The Changed Podcast.https://kendrickshope.com/ (Kendrick Shope) is an international sales authority, creator of the Authentic Selling®️ process, and the founder of https://kendrickshope.com/shop/ (Authentic Selling®️ University), the leading online sales training for modern businesses producing millions of dollars in revenue for her students. Often called the most over-delivering woman online, Kendrick believes in doing business differently, providing her students with Rocky Balboa’s drive and Olivia Pope’s determination to succeed. Kendrick hosts https://kendrickshope.com/tv/ (Authentic Selling® TV) reaching 186 countries and 6 continents where she provides sales expertise that is sweet as pie but tough as nails. Authentic Selling®️ has been featured on the Steve Harvey Show, NBC, Forbes, INC, Reader’s Digest, HLN, and dozens more. We had a fantastic conversation in December of 2020, where we bonded over the shared experience of having what I call 'hits' and what she calls 'breadcrumbs' that feel like teeny premonitions or signposts from the Universe. We also chatted about how the little forks in life lead to the bigger forks, like the example from https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/guillermo-martinez/ (season 1, episode 7 of Sony Pictures Animation, Guillermo Torres), sharing the story of choosing to go to a different movie theatre than usual... which essentially launched him on his career path. Like me, her daughter has played a prominent role in her story. As Kendrick observed, 'children can be great teachers." Takeaways from this episode:Sales are fundamental to survival in business. But when selling feels like helping, it's a heck of a lot easier to do it! Shopping is not a hobby. Children are good reflections for us on how WE manage change, AND they change how we see the world. Every day there is a fork in the road. We are constantly choosing something, a path, an action, starting something new, stopping something old... some are small forks, and some are big forks Not everything will be in your particular zone of genius. Rather than do everything yourself, it is wise to surround yourself with the people who have the skills you lack. One hot tip for those who are still learning about working from home: create for yourself a specific workspace and a specific work time... and stick to those boundaries. Links to things mentionedCurious about Authentic Selling®️ University? Learn more at https://kendrickshope.com/ (www.kendrickshope.com) Curious about USS Improvise The Next Generation the Musical? (I know it was a brief mention... but it's just so nerdy and fun!) Learn more at http://www.ussimprovise.com (www.ussimprovise.com) Are you figuring out your own path? Try this book, mentioned in Kendrick's journey, https://www.amazon.com/Finding-Your-Own-North-Star-ebook/dp/B0019O6IXE (Finding Your Own North Star) by Martha Beck

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Julie Gillis a consultant, story coach, speaker, and facilitator, shares her thoughts, in episode 40 of the Changed, on how we tell ourselves stories about the world and our role in it, along with the pivotal experience of finding herself after battling postpartum psychosis.Julie Gillis is one of those people who is that lovely combo of funny and pensive. She's deeply reflective, unafraid of being honest in her expression, and absolutely ready to laugh and play too! It's also true that my knowledge of Julie Gillis is personal. Not only does this episode's guest reside in this podcast hosts home town. But Julie and I used to perform together in an all-lady, broadway-style musical improv group called Girls Girls Girls and produced a festival (though Julie was MUCH more involved called L.A.F.F. otherwise known as the Ladies Are Funny Festival (enjoy the https://ladiesarefunnyfest.wordpress.com/ (legacy website here)!) We also played together in incredible shows, like Apocalypse (directed Brandon Salinas, and costumed by Courtney Hopkins). (If you watch this old promo video, we suggest you watch full-screen with sound ON.) So it was a delight to sit down in January of 2021, just 3 days into the new year, to reflect not only on change broadly but on how 2020 changed some of the key elements of Julie's life. Now that summer has arrived in the US, you may have forgotten what the world was like in January of 2021. Here in Oregon where Julie and I both reside, while shopping was open, most businesses were closed, unless they provided curbside pickup, and masks were required 100% of the time. Schools were closed, and our children were learning from a distance (something fun and easy for our 8-year-old, and something deeply difficult for her young adult children). There was no promise of freedom and no end in sight. And in this climate, we were able to connect over Zoom and philosophize for a while about how the stories we as people tell ourselves about ourselves... may have shifted. Julie also shared the story of how improv helped to lift her back up to herself, when she was at one of her lowest points as a mother experiencing https://womensmentalhealth.org/specialty-clinics/postpartum-psychiatric-disorders/ (postpartum psychosis), one of the least talked about maternal experiences in this country... and one of great importance because of the consequences that can stem from the condition. As Julie confessed, "the idea of hurting myself became rather entertaining," and this kind of flawed thinking can lead not just to self-harm. When lines between reality and darkness become blurry, https://www.postpartum.net/learn-more/postpartum-psychosis/ (help is needed). As a deep believer in the importance of building more understanding and interest in women's health, particularly hormone changes, I'm always glad to hear stories that stem from this place; like the story guest, https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/maraya-brown/ (Maraya Brown) shared at the beginning of season two, in which she had to process the unexpected loss of her first pregnancy. Takeaways from this episodeIn the https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/28-marsha-shandur/ (stories, )we consume there are multiple roles people play: villain, support character, window character…. a really important tree. But in the stories we tell, we often imagine ourselves the hero (sometimes a reluctant hero) of our own story. There are times when being the hero of your own story can be really beneficial, like helping to boost your confidence for a job interview for example. On social media, it’s easy to convince ourselves we’re the hero… even when we’re not. We post a picture, and people like it. We say something and people like it. We forget that other reactions, countering perspectives, and dislikes can slip by the wayside unnoticed. But What if, we step into another role sometimes? What happens when we purposefully play support to someone...

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In episode 39 of The Changed Podcast, author of Visualeadership, Todd Cherches, and host Aden Nepom discuss the importance of visual communication, listening in leadership, and being willing to 'go back into the room' to see what you might learn.Todd is the CEO and co-founder of http://www.bigbluegumball.com/ (BigBlueGumball), a New York City-based management consulting firm specializing in leadership development, public speaking, and executive coaching. He is also a Founding Partner of the https://www.giftleadership.com/ (Global Institute For Thought Leadership) (“GIFT”), and a member of the exclusive “https://www.100coaches.com/ (Marshall Goldsmith “MG100” Coaches).”  Additionally, Todd is a three-time award-winning Adjunct Professor of https://www.sps.nyu.edu/homepage/academics/faculty-directory/13733-todd-s-cherches.html (leadership at NYU), and a Lecturer on leadership at Columbia University… And he is a https://www.ted.com/talks/todd_cherches_the_power_of_visual_thinking (TEDx speaker), and the author of "VisuaLeadership: Leveraging the Power of Visual Thinking in Leadership and in Life," published last year by Post Hill Press/Simon & Schuster, and recently named by Thinkers360 as one of the “Top 50 Business Books to Read in 2021.” Takeaways from this episodeHow we process change differs depending on whether it’s some change we are choosing to initiate, or if it’s a change that is being thrust upon us. Leading change in an organization can be hard because we’re asking people to adopt and adapt to things they aren’t initiating for themselves. As leaders, we can help people adapt more quickly by leading with understanding and empathy There are lots of terrible leaders out there, who have no idea they are leading badly. Our personal lens of the world (influenced by our upbringing, values, experiences, etc) influence how we lead. A helpful mantra for leaders: “How do I get them to see what I am saying?” We can think of our visual thinking and communication like any muscle we can strengthen. It just takes training and practice In his book, VisuaLeadership, Todd Cherches breaks down visual thinking and communication into four categories: Visual drawings and objects Mental models and frameworks metaphor and analogy storytelling With any type of communication, it is helpful to see your audience's needs and issues first and then speak directly to those. When it comes to listening everyone thinks they are a good listener, but if you’re distracted and not listening fully you’re really doing a disservice as a leader, not just to your people, but to you and your organization. 360-degree awareness as a listener is mission-critical to military tactical operations, self-defense, improv theatre, and great leadership When Todd teaches listening he helps people understand the 5 levels of listening Level 1 = ignoring Level 2 = pretending (nodding as if you’re listening.. while actually ignoring) Level 3 = listening to respond (filtering for keywords while formulating what you want to say) Level 4 = attentive and actually taking information Level 5 – empathetic listening (this is the level of listening that leaders should be striving for)

Resources and referencesIf discussing what works best to create a positive dynamic at work is your jam, you may enjoy https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/aoife-obrien-happier-at-work/ (my conversation with Aoife O’Brien, host of Happier at Work (episode 31)) You canhttps://www.amazon.com/VisuaLeadership-Leveraging-Visual-Thinking-Leadership/dp/1642933376 ( pick up a copy of VisuaLeadership )and begin leveraging the power of visual thinking in your leadership and learn more about Todd at http://www.toddcherches.com/ (www.ToddCherches.com) Poems referenced in the episode:The Daffodils (I Wandered Lonely as a Cloud) by https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45521/i-wandered-lonely-as-a-cloud (William Wordsworth) The Road Not Taken...

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In episode 38 of The Changed Podcast, guest Lupe Hernández from the Beyond Trauma program at Adelante Mujeres discusses inner strength, forgiveness, and what it takes to heal and to support healing from trauma.Lupe Hernández is an international trainer in healing trauma and deep understanding in ACEs. She co-founded “Help-Restore-Transform”, a program that works to address educational barriers and improve self-worth among women and children in Mexico; and brings over two decades of experience leading people to heal from trauma. She is trained in Conflict Resolution, Mediation, and Restorative Justice, and leadership and is a provider of the Beyond Trauma program in Adelante Mujeres. She is also the mother of two wonderful sons (Ivan & Izaak). If you live outside of Oregon, it's possible that you have not heard of https://www.adelantemujeres.org/ (Adelante Mujeres). Based in Forest Grove, Oregon, they now serve an international audience by providing(as they state on their https://www.adelantemujeres.org/about-us (website)) "holistic education and empowerment opportunities to low income Latina women and their families to ensure full participation and active leadership in the community." Like our first season guest https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/nadine-montaghami/ (Nadine Montaghami), Lupe's experiences healing from her past has given her empathy and depth as a support provider and trainer with the http://Adelante Mujeres provides holistic education and empowerment opportunities to low income Latina women and their families to ensure full participation and active leadership in the community. (Beyond Trauma) program, and she shared quite a few of her insights through the course of our conversation. She also shared a story from a job she held earlier in her life where by all accounts she was saddled with a boss from hell and not a lot of options. The way she handled that situation was surprising and beautiful, and incredibly effective. Lupe Hernández's story illustrates that you really can influence someone's behavior by how you choose to interact with them. At the Art of Change, we often talk about the role of belief in how we experience those around us. If you believe someone is an idiot, you treat them like an idiot. You say things like "I'll talk slow so you call follow along." And when they look at you confused, you see their face as proof that they can't follow... and you're left going "See...? What an idiot!" The same is true when you assume the opposite to be true. If you think that someone is brilliant, you're likely to behave as though their words matter. You'll pay closer attention to what they say, and then when in all of the words they choose, you hear a sentence you like, you'll nod your head emphatically and say "Wow! Brilliant!" Truth aside... (because let's not forget that reality does actually live somewhere in the mix), both in our negative assumptions and our positive ones we find proof that we're right and these biases are unconscious in nature. So if you're going to be right about something why not make the conscious choice and assume something useful? In Lupe's story though, she didn't make a different assumption about her horrible boss, instead, she chose to act as if. This is a really powerful tool! In behaving toward her boss as if her boss was friendly, kind, and thoughtful, she actually managed to change the nature of their interactions so much that the boss actually began to resemble those positive qualities! Takeaways from this episodeIn addition to this powerful story of change, there were some good pieces of wisdom for those healing from trauma and those supporting those on a healing journey. Trauma is subjective. What one person experiences as deeply scarring another person may see as no big deal and vice versa It is possible to heal from the wounds of our past. Surviving traumatic events, experiences and thinking do not have to leave you permanently damaged Supporting...

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Creator of Brave Bots, Joy Bots, and Love Bots & co-founder of On Your Feet Improv For Business - Episode 37 of The Changed Podcast features the creative, generous and playful Gary Hirsch!Gary Hirsch is a visual artist, a facilitator & consultant, and an improviser. In this episode, we talked about how he came to co-found http://www.oyf.com (On Your Feet Improvisation for Business), spread joy through http://www.botjoy.com (BotJoy), along with his feelings, stories, and thoughts about what it means to face and embrace change. Gary is also my friend, and colleague through the work we do together at On Your Feet. A work relationship that was born, built, and continues to evolve in a completely improvisational way, something for which I am grateful. Perhaps that's the kind of magic that happens when you're open to the possibilities at the moment... or perhaps the simple magic of doing work that is centered on bringing joy to people. Gary isn't the first play/joy-centered guest I've had on the show. You may recall conversations with https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/gary-ware/ (Gary Ware), https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/jeff-harry/ (Jeff Harry), https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/shannon-stott/ (Shannon Stott), https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/28-marsha-shandur/ (Marsha Shandur), and many more. That is because JOY is at the center of so much of my own time, energy, interest, and effort. Our conversation ran through several twists and turns from the hustle language of LinkedIn and classic anti-motivational posters https://www.flickr.com/photos/urtica/124920149 (like this one) to the roots of bringing more joy to people through the amazing power of an imaginary giant robot, now embodied in tiny bots that you can carry with you physically. Gary also shared his own sense of AA (Anticipation Anxiety) when it comes to change which lives in contrast to how he might handle an actually massive shift once it has occurred. He also told us the story of the cup of coffee which changed Gary's entire trajectory, featuring the inspiring https://www.robertpoynton.com/ (Robert Poynton.) Prior to meeting Robert, Gary had a successful T-shirt booth in the Portland Saturday Market where he sold t-shirts that featured his original art. Now, more than 20 years later, On Your Feet has served some of the biggest companies in the world by bringing less fear and more joy to their important work. Instead of my usual closing thoughts for this episode, Gary and I ended the episode together with a game/tool that you can take and use called Color/Advance. We demonstrated how to use the game for sharing stories. For "color" on other ways to use the game, check out the https://www.oyf.com/distributed-work/color-advance (OYF Distributed Work Tool Kit). Takeaways from this conversationGive away amazing ideas. The way Gary encourages to https://www.botjoy.com/steal-this-idea (“steal this idea”) of making Joybots, can be an amazingly fulfilling choice and make room for more great ideas. Anticipating change can be much scarier than the actual change itself, much like making a decision can be more exhausting than simply executing the choice on the other side. I’ve been attributing storytelling as a way of examining meaning to Gary because he is who I learned the idea from. He learned the idea from Kat Koppet… which if you know her makes perfect sense! She also has an excellent podcast called https://www.koppett.com/dare-to-be-human-podcast (Dare to Be Human) and it is worth checking out. Make the call. Be present, pay attention… and when it’s time to make the call. DO IT. So many times we come up with excuses for why we should not make the call, but if you never make the call, you never get to see what happens! Or maybe it’s "make the coffee!" Coffee dates also seemed to be a running theme. Say yes and see what shows up. This is a concept directly from the improv world. Saying yes to an offer and allowing...

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KPTV FOX 12 reporter and meteorologist Brian MacMillan sits down in episode 36 of The Changed Podcast to talk about everything from kitchen appliances to flexibility & predicting the future, along with his reflections on how his life has been affected by losing his best friend: his dad.Brian MacMillan is an AP award-winning meteorologist and reporter for KPTV FOX 12 in Portland, OR. He's also a world-traveled improv and theatre performer and an all-around nice human being! His experience as an improviser shows up in his reporting in more ways than one. Of course, as a reporter, he is constantly faced with change and a need to be flexible. There is a lot of uncertainty involved in keeping tabs on our busy modern lives! But improv shows up for him in some pretty silly ways too... Our main areas of discussion centered around whether or not food processors are scary or kitchen miracles, how weather forecasters deal with predicting an ever-changing future, and the role of improv in Brian's life. We also discussed loss. Brian lost his father in high school and this affected the trajectory of his life and career in very specific ways. Takeaways from this conversationFood processors can be scary! BUT sometimes you have to face your fears and take a few risks to reap rewards Meteorologists use both monitors and green screens Three days out for a weather forecast is fairly solid. Farther out (like a 10-day forecast) is a lot less consistent... BUT meteorology isn't a perfected science yet Listening to your local forecaster will yield better predictions because experience will often carry more weather wisdom than the forecasting models that just come from data sets. When it comes to change, even the painful experiences in our lives can lead to tremendously good outcomes. That may not be of comfort in the moment, but it can be quite interesting to look back later and see the path to your present moment Improv and theatre are great training for reporting the news and predicting the weather Even though we shouldn't need reminders... we do. Call the people you love. Tell them that you love them. There are no guarantees that we or they will be here tomorrow. This has always been true, and will always be true, so remember as often as you can to reach out and tell people they're valuable in your life.

Links!Check out the KPTV Fox 12 Weather https://www.kptv.com/podcasts/weather/ (Podcast)! If you're interested in science and prediction, then you'll likely get excited in a few weeks with an upcoming guest. Until then satisfy your scientific curiosity withhttps://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/science-with-jerry-nepom/ ( episode13) featuring prominent immunologist Dr. Gerald T. Nepom. No book recommendations from Brian MacMillan at the moment, as his brain is full of textbook material from his grad school studies. BUT there are fresh book recommendations every Tuesday in the Change Hub on Facebook.

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Chandler Elizabeth Adam is a golden-locked goddess and curly hair genius who just so happens to be my actual hairdresser! In Episode 35 She's sharing her decision to begin utilizing hormone therapy as she quite literally facilitates her body changing.Not everyone is as open and embracing of dumb questions and picky hair preferences as Chandler. If you're on Instagram, she is sharing glimpses as she transitions https://www.instagram.com/transgenderagenda/ (@transgenderagenda), AND if you have curly hair, you'll particularly enjoy her lovely haircutting as well in her professional https://www.instagram.com/portlandcurlroom/ (@portlandcurlroom). I met Chandler after several years of only having my hairs cut when I would fly back to Austin, Texas for work. (Big shout out to my original @sweetgeorgiabee at Honeycomb... I'll always have a place in my heart for you!). I'll never forget sitting at Shalom Y'all, when this waitress walks up wearing the best curly cut I had seen in a while. It turns out the young bright-eyed apprentice hairdresser (at that time) who had worked magic on her hair (that very day!) was Chandler! And the rest is history... Chandler graciously sat down over zoom to chat with me about the relationship between hair change and life change, her own transition, and choice to move forward with hormonal therapy, and the role that love support and happy endings to stories play in our mental health. She also graciously agreed to do a curly hair Q&A together, which we will be bringing to you live on July 1st! Make sure you're a member of our Facebook group CLICK HERE TO JOIN to catch the event live! Submit your curly questions to me directly by emailing podcast@artofchange.com and putting "CURLY Q" in the subject line. Takeaways from this conversationThere is definitely a relationship between life change and hair change, but as for which comes first, well that’s a real chicken and egg question. Quitting drinking can be good for your skin! When I spoke to https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/chuy/ (Chuy Zarate) last year about having to quit drinking forever, he actually mentioned this kind of incentive that you see written about often. For Chuy he had to stop as a matter of life and death. For Chandler stopping mattered to her mental health and physical health as well… but the most noticeable change in the shortest amount of time was how her skin looks. Hormones are magic. Chandler joked that she has the hormones of a pregnant woman, but the truth isn’t far from that. The amount of estrogen and progesterone needed to help Chandler’s body mirror her identity is a strong amount of hormone! As a woman in perimenopause, I’m hyper-aware of how hormones shape and change us. But in talking to Chandler I also see how like a polyjuice potion hormone therapy can be. A mother’s love can be magic. In Chandler’s story, her mom knew what was happening and how to support her daughter and it was a tremendous gift! Mothers can serve all kinds of roles in the story of our lives. In the https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/mary-jo-pehl/ (first episode of this podcast, Mary Jo Pehl) shared a moment of standing up to her own mother. But when one is fortunate enough to have a mom who can support your life and your choices and understand the choices ahead of you it really is a beautiful thing. Stories of change, of survival, and of transgender transitions can be happy, can be filled with love. AND it’s good for the soul to hear happy stories. As Chandler pointed out, stories of overcoming challenges, of having to risk everything and build your support structures from the ground up, can certainly inspire… BUT it can also make it hard for people to move forward in their own decision-making because if all we hear are those stories, the world can feel incredibly scary. There is a much-needed role for happy stories to play. A book to check out based on Chandler’s...

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In this episode of The Changed Podcast, professional performer and teaching artist Marilet Martinez shares her thoughts on the relationship between the arts and activism, maintaining flexibility in our thinking, and coming of age!Born and raised in San Francisco, Marilet Martinez describes herself as a queer, bilingual, multi-hyphenated artist, Leo Sun/ Scorpio rising, bruja homegirl. She prioritizes collaborations that practice intersectionality and community empowerment. As a trauma-informed, student-centered teaching artist, she has developed national programing for community wellness through arts intervention for over 15 years, and her Bay Area acting credits include originating roles in over 10 world premieres with envelope-pushing companies such as Magic Theatre, the San Francisco Mime Troupe, Crowded Fire, Cutting Ball, Impact Theatre and more. She performed with Leela Improv’s faculty team- the Armando Company, the all-female Harold team Sorry Not Sorry, and her duo, Pura Pocha. More recently Marilet (who has relocated to Chicago) is ¼ of the award-winning all Latina improv and sketch team Ratas De Dos Patas. These hermanas del improv have performed and taught workshops across the US, spreading their message of comedy, cultura, y corazon; which is how we met, at the San Francisco Femproviser Fest where we were both faculty members. She is also an ensemble member at ComedySportz Chicago! In this episode, she had thoughts, stories, and anecdotes to share on everything from the beauty of creating a better world through activism, how the Arts can shift and change people to be more inspired in their own creativity or to think differently about the world around them, and so much more. In choosing a story to share from a fork in the road moment in her life, Marilet Martinez chose the quite literal fork in the road of turning 18! This of course makes it hard to ask the question, what if that had never happened... but it helped to illustrate the simple beauty of getting excited about the unknown and embracing what is possible instead of worrying about what is not. Takeaways from this episodeTwo things can be true at the same time. This theme came up several times: Activism is a celebration and a rebellion. An excellent quote from this episode from Marilet, “If it’s all rebellion all the time, that’s a burnout. If it’s all celebration all the time: that’s a pass-out” Change is easy and change is hard. Even having a ‘positive mindset’ won’t necessarily take the difficulty away but perhaps make it feel less damaging Improvisers who practice flexibility on stage can actually be quite rigid in “real life” and often worry about not doing improv right! Feelings are complicated. You can feel grief and joy at the same time. You can feel fear and excitement at the same time. You can feel sad and find things funny at the same time. Every day is the same. Every day is completely different.

As young people, we are taught that things are black and white, but actually so much is actually grey. As Marilet Martinez says, “life happens in the grey areas“ If you want helpful mantras to help you cope with change that is dropped on your head we identified a few that may or may not have come from Weight Watchers (and may or may not be helpful, depending on context) “That just happened” “It’s just new information”‘

The book that Marilet recommends? In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Marchada, a memoir of entering into, living through, and then leaving an abusive relationship. Marilet Martinez is a performer… AND you can watch her shows online! Checkout Marilet Martinez’s Ratas De Dos Patas here: https://www.facebook.com/RatasDe2Patas/ (https://www.facebook.com/RatasDe2Patas/) Catch a CSz Chicago show here: https://www.twitch.tv/csznchicago (https://www.twitch.tv/csznchicago)

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In this episode of the Changed Podcast, CEOx Founder Luann Abrams talks about tactical changes, women-led business, the nature of inspiring ideas, and beating unconscious bias.Luann Abrams is the founder of CEOX, an organization with a mission is to elevate women into CEO and board roles. From her time in venture capital as a partner at FoundersPad, an early-stage venture fund, she was compelled to find a solution to the inequities in leadership she saw at growing startups. She is a founding board member of the Strengthening Central Oregon Political Action Committee (SCOPAC) with the mission of recruiting and supporting under-represented individuals to run for political office. In the 2020 election, five of their six endorsed candidates were elected to office, ensuring diverse representation in the local community. She is the inaugural member of the Women in STEAM group led by the Technology Association of Oregon (TAO), whose mission is to support and encourage women in male-dominated industries for a gender-balanced future. Here she created a mentorship program matching experienced business executives with up-and-coming women to help them achieve their career goals. Luann has a background in aerospace engineering and spent most of her 15 years in aviation working for a start-up aircraft company in Bend, OR. Here she led the certification engineering program at Columbia Aircraft where she oversaw the certification of several aircraft models and ensured that all designs met applicable regulations. Due to her diligence and integrity, she was granted the authority to sign off on regulatory compliance on behalf of the FAA prior to aircraft delivery. In 2017 she was inducted into the International Air & Space Hall of Fame as part of the Golden Eagles, the winningest intercollegiate flying team. When she is not working and living the Bend life with her husband and two sons, you will find her curled up with a good book and a hot cup of coffee. Speaking of book recommendations…During our rapid-fire round, Luann suggested: Ahab’s Wife: Or, the Star-Gazer: A Novel by Sena Jeter Naslund Born a Crime: Stories from a Southern African Childhood by Trevor Noah Takeaways from this episode:Women-led companies get results: financial results, and positive workplace culture results. Choosing a woman to lead the charge in your organization… that’s just smart business! You can learn more about the mission of CEOx, find resources, and nominate women leaders you know by visiting https://projectceox.com. They frequently offer training and events to help leaders up-level their skills. Last month I was invited to share some of my wisdom with my program: https://www.artofchange.com/workshops-online/reason-in-an-outraged-world (Reason in an Outraged World), a program that you can bring to your organization too! Inspiration often strikes in the unlikeliest of times... like when we are enjoying downtime to the tune of some Netflix, doing some dishes, or taking a stroll through the neighborhood. (By the way, if you need downtime and are looking for a Netflix recommendation… absolutely check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ak5dFt8Ar0 (The Mitchell’s vs. The Machines) who’s Head of Story https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/guillermo-martinez/ (Guillermo Martinez) sat down and shared a story with us last season!) Executing on ideas takes work, which is probably why ideas aren’t stolen as often as you might think. For example, I have been trying to get somebody to create an improv comedy-troupe called Laughter Circus USA for over a decade now! Still no takers. (I have no idea why not… the posters make themselves!) Even though study after study tells us how many benefits there are to having a diverse network and workforce…busting our biases takes effort. In this episode, I shared one method that has been helpful to some of my clients, that you might use to think about mitigating your own...

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This week in episode 32 of The Changed Podcast, artist, illustrator, and wellness coach Marybel Martin joins host, Aden Nepom in thinking about how our opinions of ourselves change our outlook, health, and resourcefulness.Marybel Martin is an incredible artist and illustrator. Perhaps you’ve seen her work on Instagram, or are already familiar with her work on Etsy. But she is also a wellness coach who utilizes art as an important part of nurturing and healing. She is also a first-generation American, born in California, and having lived in Argentina for 9 years. Her art has been shown in galleries around the world, and what’s particularly cool about that, is that she didn’t begin her art career until she was already 42 years old. Now almost a decade into her work, she is living and creating with a full heart and it shows! In Marybel Martin’s studio, above her desk hangs an incredible painting. I asked her to share the story of the painting and if you are a creator you’ll appreciate perhaps more than anybody the significance of hanging this piece in the place where she births her creations. This painting carries symbols of creation, represents her children but is also a piece that received harsh criticism when it was first brought from brain to brush to canvas. Hanging the painting represents embracing her creative intuition and herself! If you watch our episodes as a member of our Patreon or our story excerpts on the Art of Change YouTube channel, then you’ll have already seen it. The artwork is also the featured image on the episode show notes posted at www.thechangedpodcast.com Her story of change, of her own fork in the road, was a story of experiencing a panic attack and realizing that the feeling of suffocation was a message from her body that she needed to do things differently. This meant self-love and acceptance, but it also meant adventure because the message received loud and clear, was that life is short. Takeaways from this episodeYou either get busy living, or you get busy dying. If you want to get the most out of life, you have to go out and live it! Waiting for someone to validate you, to tell you that you have good ideas, or that you have talent… it’s wasteful. Your value as a creator is completely subjective. Want proof? Look around you! While there may be lots of people out there doing what you do better and succeeding… there are also lots of folks out there doing a ridiculously terrible job by your measure who are immensely successful. I like what Marybel said here which is, that even if one person is excited to buy what you’re selling, then there are thousands more just like them who simply haven’t found you yet. Life is filled with secret menus. We often view people who are really successful and wonder how they thought of that great idea, gamed the system, or did it so uniquely… and it’s because they were ordering off the secret menu! I wrote more about this idea, which you can gohttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/you-ordering-off-secret-menu-life-business-your-others-aden-nepom ( read on LinkedIn). ResourcesDuring our ridiculous 2nd season segment: Aden Asks You a Bunch of Questions And You Answer Them As Quickly As Possible, Marybel identified The Artists Way as a book worth recommending. She is not the first! Author Amy Gentry, also suggested this book in our first episode of the season. You canhttps://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/episode-26-amy-gentry/ ( listen to that here). You can order a copy of The Artists Way https://www.powells.com/book/the-artists-way-9781585421466 (from Powells Books) Interested in learning more about Art Journaling? Marybel Martin teaches classes. You can https://www.skillshare.com/profile/Marybel-Martin/435244214 (go here to learn more) and of course access all things Marybel Martin https://www.marybelmartin.com/ (on her website).

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Aoife O'Brien, host of The Happier at Work Podcast, gets on the other side of the mic as guest in episode 31 of The Changed Podcast with Aden Nepom. We discuss, adventure, risk-taking, taking yourself by the hand instead of waiting, and of course... what it means to be changed.Aoife O'Brien has had many adventures, having traveled to all seven continents... even Antarctica! However, she is quick to confess that even as an adventurous person change can feel rather difficult at times. She has a Masters in Organizational Behavior, a degree which she completed during lockdown, and is passionate (like I am) about creating happier workplace dynamics. In fact, when Aoife and I spoke on her show (https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/happier-at-work/id1474115091?i=1000511674090 (you can listen to that episode of the Happier at Work Podcast here!)) it felt very much like meeting my long-lost twin but with different areas of expertise. While I have a background in improvisation, play, and facilitation, Aoife has a background in data and analysis. In our conversation on the Changed Podcast which we recorded back in February of this year (2021), Aoife O'Brien talks a bit about what it means to be an entrepreneur, both the inspiration and the reality behind the choice to leave working in a corporate environment in order to pursue being one's own boss. We also discuss the helpful practice of journaling through difficult changes; and the realization that when it comes to the big bold moves, you cannot wait for someone else to come take you by the hand, and lead you where you want to go. Takeaways from our conversationFor all you solopreneurs out there... we see you. We are you! You're working hard. Harder than you might have expected. But if you're like us, doing what you love doesn't really feel like work. Still, strive for balance! Don't let yourself get stuck on defining yourself as 'busy!' And for those of you considering leaving your salaried positions to venture forth on your own, here are some things to consider: How much of your burnout is because of how you are choosing to work vs what your employer is asking you to do? What is the story you are living inside of? The market for what you want to offer people as a service or product is already saturated. That being said you are certainly the only you out there, and that is its own unique value proposition. Reaching your ideal customers or clients though means that just knowing what value you can provide to people isn't enough on its own. You'll need other important skills or resources! So, What do you know about marketing, PR, web design and maintenance, creating contracts, creating a business plan, and more? How much are you willing to learn and do and/or what kind of budget do you have to hire all of the people needed to perform these tasks?

Not everyone wants the same things that you do. Not everyone interprets the options in the way that you do. You are the only one who truly understands what you want and need or who can view your particular moment or situation with your instincts for action. Like in improv, when you have the thought that something should be happening, or that somebody ought to be making something happen... that somebody is you! Journaling is a great way to process change. I tried desperately to find the journaling process that I found so impactful when my first marriage came to a close so that I could share it with you. Unfortunately, too much time has passed and I cannot find the original piece! BUT here is my rough memory of the prompts that were most helpful. Journaling prompts to help you heal from a divorce or breakup (These prompts (minus #3) can be used to process the end of any kind of relationship… even business. the idea is to simply create lists that you could refer back to and reflect. Embarking on this kind of process can take days or weeks. It is recommended to fully complete one step before moving to the next.) What do you love

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Nancy Torres, an early childhood educator and author of Say it With Me (Dilo Conmigo), sits down with Aden Nepom in episode 30 of The Changed Podcast. She shares her thoughts about cats, kids, G-d, and the power that pausing to breathe can have in changing our fears.Nancy Torres is a childhood Educator, Meditation Guide, and author of, Say It With Me (Dilo Conmigo): A Dual-Language / Bilingual Spanish-English Affirmation Book for Children (of all ages) from Wheatpenny Press She loves inspiring and supporting children in their academic and social-emotional development. A little about her background, Nancy Torres received a B.A. in Corporate Communications from Baruch College, City University of New York, and received an M.A. in Childhood Education and Special Education from New York University. Nancy speaks both English and Spanish and lives in New York with her husband and son whom they are raising bilingual. She is funny, relatable, and spiritual, and her story about overcoming a fear of cats is an excellent example of how knowing fear is irrational doesn't actually weaken the fear. Overcoming fear is motivated differently, and we discuss some of these motivators in this episode. Takeaways from this episodeBecoming a parent is a profound motivator of change. When your choices are suddenly thrust through the realization that what you say and do will have a very specific effect on a life that you are responsible for developing... suddenly you find yourself doing things differently. For Nancy, this applied to approaching one of her fears. Breathing is a powerful tool for combatting fear. The amount of time it takes to exhale, inhale deeply and exhale once more is much longer than you might think. Certainly long enough to pause mentally and reassess. Still alive? Tick. Still intact? Tick. Ready for this next cleansing breath? Tick. Changing your relationship with your fears will open things up for you. What will it open for you? I don't know! Your fear and overcoming of it will be specific to you! That being said, in the story of Nancy Torres and all the cats... or my own story of overcoming a fear of heights, I definitely see that whether big or small, knowing that you are capable of something you did not know you were capable of makes you capable of trusting yourself more deeply. Trusting your own strength and abilities is always a good thing. I'm reminded of another author,https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/episode-26-amy-gentry/ ( Amy Gentry's story )in episode 26 of trusting her instincts over fear (they're different!) has served her well. Affirmations are more than a silly SNL Sketch from the 1990s may have led some of us to believe. No offense to Stuart Smalley, but affirming for ourselves, and our children is a beautiful way to think about what makes us. Like many things, a little can go a long way, and too much of a good thing can be toooo much. BUT taking a moment to appreciate what is truly wonderful about you, that's a practice worth adopting! Nancy Torres had two Book Recommendations for listeners of the Changed Podcast (aside from her own)American Dirt by Jeanine Cummings, which takes on the topic of immigration and is recommended by https://www.oprah.com/app/books.html (Oprah's Book Club). This book is available to https://www.powells.com/book/american-dirt-9781250209764 (order from Powell's Books). Where The Crawdad Sings by Delia Owens, is a story of a girl abandoned by the entire world, and how she survives. https://www.powells.com/book/where-the-crawdads-sing-9780735219090 (Order from Powell's Books). And of course... if you're interested in purchasing Say It With Me (Dilo Conmigo) you can https://www.wheatpennypress.com/sayitwithme (order directly from Wheatpenny Press), or you can always https://www.powells.com/book/say-it-with-me-dilo-conmigo-9781736949740 (order it from Powell's Books). This is the third episode where we're trying out our new...

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Maraya Brown, Founder of Beyond The Red Tent, Certified Nurse Midwife, and Women's Health Coach is this week's guest on The Changed PodcastJust in time for Mother's day, I am sharing this conversation with Maraya Brown. In Maraya's words as a health coach, and Nurse Midwife, she doesn't just help women birth babies, she helps women birth themselves. Make no mistake about it, she also has birthed many babies, including three beautiful children of her own. But the work that she does goes well beyond the birth process, creating safe spaces for women to explore all phases and stages of the female experience including birth, hormonal changes, pregnancy, miscarriage menopause, and more. As a woman, she has experienced many shifts in her own right, from being a carefree, adventurous, risk-taking young person, to the mid-life, scheduled owner of three businesses that she is now. Reflecting back on experiences that have changed her lens on herself on the world brought her to not one, but two stories. One from being bold, being brave, and surviving the https://www.opb.org/article/2021/03/29/almeda-fire-6-months-later/ (Almeda fires) in the Fall of 2020, and one from the sudden loss and grief of having her expectations for her future shattered in an instant with the loss of job and home along with the miscarriage of her first pregnancy in one fateful adventure. Takeaways from this episodeAs a parent, kids can serve as a reflection to us of how the experience of change, and making decisions look. When we're appalled by how bonkers they are, we can remember that we are familiar with their experiences, decision fatigue notwithstanding, and allow that empathy guide how we empathize with and teach them. The feeling of being burned by past experience leaves very real scars. Having these scars doesn't mean that we stop taking risks, or that we must leave off fully embracing life. Instead, they serve to make us more aware. Blindly jumping may go by the wayside, but we can still jump. Taboo topics in the lives of women like miscarriage, menopause, sexuality, and anatomy need safe spaces to be aired. Women can learn from each other's stories and teach each other what they know. On a personal note, I wish that sharing my own experiences through pregnancy and miscarriage didn't feel like a raw nerve. I am deeply grateful for the women who so bravely shared theirs so that I did not have to feel so all alone in processing my loss.

Links, Resources, and MentionsMaraya wrote a thorough telling of her journey through miscarriage. You can https://www.beyondtheredtent.com/letting-go-on-the-journey-of-miscarriage/ (read that here). If you're a woman who is feeling ready to move from exhausted to energized, balance your hormones, and feel turned on by your life, your lover, and yourself, then https://www.marayabrown.com/get-started (click here) to see if Maraya is just the person to help you make that happen, or better yet https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1GH6pxRg0N2g_r-FF1fEFoQjn19AfihwmiaN4MUlHAoU/viewform?edit_requested=true (register for her free workshop) that starts on May 24th (maybe I'll even see you there!). Books and Resources Maraya Brown is consuming and maybe you want to enjoy too!https://www.amazon.com/Get-Rich-Lucky-Bitch-audiobook/dp/B07C7Y5NG5/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= (Get Rich Lucky Bitch) by Denise Duffield-Thomas https://www.amazon.com/Chillpreneur-audiobook/dp/B07LGF7Z7Z/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1620331052&sr=1-1 (Chillpreneur) also by Denise Duffield-Thomas

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In this episode storytelling expert Marsha Shandur, shares a few of the key ingredients to an excellent story and shares a story of her own that demonstrates how our willingness to leap into the abyss of love can change usMarsha Shandur has been listening to and telling stories her whole life. Perhaps you've even seen or heard Marsha tell a story yourself! If you do not already know Marsha and you're wondering who the heck she is... perhaps this keynote from the 2019 World Domination Summit is a particularly charming, relatable, and inspiring introduction! We dove into the anatomy of storytelling for a bit during her interview. Even though The Changed Podcast is all about one idea change... obviously, storytelling is a key element of how we get there. And if you're interested in the story of how the podcast was born (with storytelling in mind...) then I suggest you go https://thechangedpodcast.com/about-the-changed-podcast/ (take a quick peek at our origin story)! All of this is to say, it seemed worth spending a chunk of time thinking about what makes stories so compelling, relatable, and engaging. Takeaways from our conversation The ingredients of a compelling story are less about the plot and more about the picture. In order to create a 'freaky-Friday brain swap with your stories, focus less on the takeaways and spend time on some of the details that you take for granted, like the time of day, or the smell in the air, or the color of your shirt, etc... There is an extent to which stories are "different horses for different courses," so your compelling stories won't necessarily be a match for every audience without making adjustments Regarding change, If you'd like to get really excellent at processing internal changes don't underestimate the value of therapy! Stories don't have to be about overcoming obstacles to be compelling. And perhaps Really great stories move people. If we want to move people to action and inspire change... stories will be part of how we get there. "It's how we change everything. All the big issues: global change, social justice and all of this. We need to have the stories so that we can actually be, 'Oh I'm moved by this in a way that if you showed me a data set, I would not be.' Anybody can be a good storyteller! And being a good storyteller is how we're going to beat evil." - Marsha ShandurAbout Marsha ShandurMarsha Shandur (of Yes Yes Marsha) is a Storytelling, Communication, and Speaker Coach who has taught hundreds of executives, entrepreneurs, and professionals across the world. She is the host, organizer, and Storytelling Coach for True Stories Toronto, the city’s largest storytelling show. Before launching Yes Yes Marsha and her career as a Storytelling Coach, Marsha spent 15 years working as a Radio DJ, where she gained a powerful understanding of how to tell stories in a way that fosters connection, trust, engagement, and loyalty. Her work has been featured in Forbes, the BBC, and Mashable. Links, Resources, and things Referenced in the Course of Marsha's InterviewIF you love stories, then you likely already know this resource, but if you don't and want to... you must dig into The Moth. One of the easiest ways to do that is their podcast, https://themoth.org/podcast (The Moth Radio Hour) Favorite book: https://www.powells.com/book/cry-the-beloved-country-9780684818948 (Cry The Beloved Country by Alan Paton ) Favorite movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089017/ (Desperately Seeking Susan) (I never would have guessed this in a million years!) Check out True Stories Told Live! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVohgpFM6u3n__OUAXmPOpQ (HERE)

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The Vice President of the Alliance for Safety and Justice, Jay Jordan, sat down on the Changed Podcast to talk about what motivates change, get a little personal and share thoughts about where we might be headed as a countryIf you're not familiar with the important work of the Alliance for Safety and Justice, a national organization bringing together state leaders, advocates, and crime survivors to reform justice policy to prioritize safety over punishment. this video provides an overview. In our conversation, Jay Jordan and I covered a lot of territory thinking about change in the past, present, and future, luck vs perspective, and pulling back from these broad concepts to get a little personal. Jay shared a lovely story of a moment in his childhood that really motivated him to change something on a personal level that was holding him back. His story really illustrated how a little patience and a little heart can be hugely impactful on changes down the line. It also left me with a craving for strawberries and deeply nostalgic for my own schoolyard memories. Takeaways from our conversation "Just know that the pink pony is going to come back around again. You just have to be ready to hop on." - Jay JordanOne of the things that really stayed with me from this conversation was the perspective, similar to previous guest insights shared by https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/madeleine-ryan/ (Madeleine Ryan in episode 16), that certain opportunities will keep showing up for us throughout our lives until the point that we embrace them. Jay used the colorful metaphor of a pink pony on the carousel. Maybe you miss the first or even the second time that pink pony comes around... but eventually you're going to get that pink pony. When it comes to luck vs perspective and seizing the opportunities within arms reach, maybe it's helpful to remember that from up close things can seem bleak (like the guy arguing over being double-parked in New York), but if you can zoom out and get a high-level view you realize that there are all kinds of opportunities (for example a parking space just around the corner). Take time to develop your ability to get that big picture view. When it comes to the question of the future of this country while the future is not certain, it is also far from bleak. There is no doubt that 30 years from now this world will look, feel and operate in ways that are completely different from today. The only question is... how do we want to get there? Because the choices we make today will influence those outcomes. This reinforced for me the deeply important need to be able to have tough conversations with each other. "Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us." - Marianne Williamson Links and ResourcesWant to read the same book that Jay was reading at the time of his interview? Check out https://www.powells.com/book/rules-for-radicals-a-practical-primer-9780679721130 (Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinski) Interested in developing the skills needed to have the important, tough, and critical conversations necessary to steer humanity towards a better future? Check outhttps://www.artofchange.com/online-workshops/ ( these workshops) from The Art of Change Skills for Life, or if you're looking for insight and advisement about a particular question, feel free to https://calendly.com/art-of-change/quick-consult (reach out to me directly). If you resonate with the value of shifting the focus of the justice conversation from 'crime and punishment,' to 'creating safe communities,' one way to get involved is to back the efforts of the Alliance for Safety and Justice.

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Amy Gentry, the best-selling author of novels Good as Gone & Last Woman Standing, sat down to talk with, The Changed Podcast host, Aden Nepom at the end of last year. Since talking, her newest novel Bad Habits has taken the world by storm!Author Amy Gentry is what I like to call a 'practical dreamer.' While she is attracted to the magical, spiritual, intuitive elements in life she recognizes that there is typically a pragmatic approach to get where you want to be. She is the author of the thrillers Good as Gone, a New York Times Notable Book, and Last Woman Standing. She also wrote a book on Tori Amos's album BOYS FOR PELE for the 33 1/3 series. Her book reviews and essays have appeared in numerous outlets, including the Chicago Tribune, Salon, The Paris Review, the Los Angeles Review of Books, and The Austin Chronicle. She holds a PhD in English from the University of Chicago and lives in Austin, Texas. In this episode of the Changed Podcast, Amy shares with us that becoming a novelist of female-driven thrillers, wasn't initially what she set out to do. Amy lays out that getting to a place of success is a mix of elements... including luck and privilege and but not exclusively beholden to those qualities and points out that there can be a practical dollars and cents approach to pursuing your dreams, including breaking your life into quarters to get after smaller goals. In examining her own relationship with change, Amy Gentry shares a https://youtu.be/tFSm4ZLFMm8 (bittersweet story )of recognizing when something isn't the fit you think it is... even when that thing was a person whom she believed to be her soul mate. There is an interesting balance between fear, excitement and patient knowing that influences how people feel about change. Each persons balance between these elements is specific to their perspective and experiences. And somehow, knowing change is inevitable, isn't always enough to tip the scales from fear to excitement. It's all contextual! And often it is in retrospect that we can look back on the experiences, the choices we've made, and the opportunities that have crossed our paths to see what elements have shaped and changed our view of the world. Links to things we talked about in this episodeHey there humans identifying as women... Looking for fun ways to move your body in a low-pressure way?! Learn more about Dance Dance Party Party! Here's the link: https://dancedancepartyparty.com/home.html Amy's book recommendation, The Artists Way, is an excellent way to seek your creative center. You can pick up a copy from Powell's Books byhttps://www.powells.com/book/artists-way-a-spiritual-path-to-higher-creativity-9780874776942 ( visiting this link) While you're there, make sure to grab a copy of Amy's latest novel! https://www.powells.com/book/bad-habits-9780358126546 (Order Bad Habits!)

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Curious about the Changed Podcast? Nothing like a podcast trailer to do the trick! This short listen will give you just the tiniest sneak peek into what the Changed Podcast is all about! If you want more than a sneak peek the good news is that any episode will do. The show is not serialized and you can enjoy episodes in any order! Whether you start at https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/mary-jo-pehl/ (Season 1, episode 1 featuring MSTK's Mary Jo Pehl), or more recently with Season 2, episode https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/27-jay-jordan/ (27 featuring Alliance for Safety and Justice Vice President Jay Jordan )you'll be in for an honest and human look at the experiences that change us.

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There's a whole lotta gratitude in the final episode of the Changed Podcast season one!It's Thanksgiving today and despite 2020 being one massive experiment in just how much people can handle, I have a lot to be grateful for. I started my day today thanking people for being in my life and it felt amazing. So instead of waiting until next week to record and publish the closer for season one, I decided that closing the Changed Podcast should be part of this giant gratitude emanating from my heart out into the world. After all, Thanksgiving isn't just about this amazing pumpkin bread... or is it?! (#nofilter #delicious!) So while Season one of the Changed Podcast is my love letter to the world inviting everyone to have more curiosity about each other's stories, to examine how we think about change and flexibility, and to simply spend a little time thinking... this close to season one is my, Aden Nepom's, love letter to you the audience as well as my amazing guests. I have spent one of the most difficult years I can remember connecting with strangers and it has been amazing! LINKS?? OH OKAY!This very short episode is also available to the public through our Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (CLICK ME)! I am super excited about things I have cooking for the Art of Change in 2021. Visit the website, and sign up to get on the Workshop waiting list, book time with me, or simply get on the newsletter mailing list: https://artofchange.com (CLICK ME)! I'm already working on Season 2, but if you have potential guests you want to connect me with, ideas for segments of the show, or anything else you wanna share email me! You can always send an email to: podcast@artofchange.com Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show by helping to spread the word, and rating the show wherever it is you listen! Soon there will be even more ways to help support the show! We're excited! I, Aden Nepom... host of this show, appreciate you greatly and wish you a good end to the year and an even better 2021.

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This week on the Changed Podcast, guest Chris O'Connell gets vulnerable. And I mean really vulnerable. Talking about mental illness, health and well-being is challenging. Though thanks to people like Chris, maybe a bit less so...As a NED and consultant on leadership, change management, and recruitment, Chris is on a mission to help leaders build purpose-led businesses that perform while making room for vulnerability and good mental health in the workplace. In this very important conversation on the Changed Podcast, we talk about removing the mask and understanding the role of mental health in the workplace. This includes the topic of surviving suicide. While many conversations on this show are https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/lou-radja/ (inspiring), and https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/madeleine-ryan/ (uplifting) (this one is too), we also https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/nadine-montaghami/ (do not shy away) from challenging reflections either. This topic isn't easy, and we do not dance around it, but it is crucial that we de-stigmatize these kinds of conversations so that more people can get the important help they need to find the resilience they want. I am grateful to Chris for being honest, for being open, and being willing to answer my questions. This conversation took some unexpected turns for me. Takeaways from this conversation:Suicide is more common than most of us care to admit, ideating suicide even more so, and 2020 has seen a steep increase in the number of people opting out. I cannot think of a more pivotal experience, than thinking you are ready to die, and choosing to live instead. When it comes to surviving suicide, or thoughts of suicide, there are a couple of mental frames Chris and I discussed. It's not enough to think about the people in your life and ask yourself whether or not you think they'd be better with or without you. Instead, imagine yourself in their shoes. Really try and see it from their point of view. Perhaps the desire to spare them from the intensity of pain they might go through with your loss might be enough to stall you until you can seek help. Consider that the idea of relief through suicide might be an unkind, temporary lie your brain is telling you. The truth is we have no clue what happens to our souls when we die. Perhaps there is heaven and hell. Perhaps it all just stops. Maybe we get reincarnated. The point is... we don't know. There simply is no way to verify. And that means, there is no guarantee that things improve in any way for you. There may be no relief. It could be worse. We think it is unethical when a single individual plays the role of judge/jury/executioner and takes the life of someone else. We do not like it one bit. Maybe this is like that. Talking about these things helps. It's hard. It's uncomfortable. And it's necessary. Dark thoughts happen for most of us at one time or another, whether it's anxiety, depression, or the dark pit of despair... talking about it is a lifeline to surviving suicide, rather than succumbing.

Resources:If you are interested in learning more about Chris O'Connell, you can find him on https://www.linkedin.com/in/itschrisoconnell/ (LinkedIn). If you find yourself or have a loved one who is in the deep pit of despair, perhaps having the number to the US National Suicide Lifeline might help: 1-800-273-8255... or simply dial 988 An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. In pursuit of better mental health, you may want to take advantage of the therapist finder from

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Estevan J Zarate who goes by Chuy, is an actor, director, and coach from San Antonio TX that has been improvising for audiences for 29 years.Currently, a resident of Austin, Chuy specializes in improv-singing and grounded/character-driven scene-work. He doesn't just perform, he's coached hundreds of kids, teens, students, and adults for years to multiple successes. He's also my friend. As of this post on Nov. 5th, 2020, Estevan J (Chuy) Zarate has been sober for 1352 days. This month, I've made the decision to have a no-drink-November. I do this occasionally, typically during stressful times, and our current political situation in the US has been stressing me out! So... here I am. For me, and for many of you, alcohol is fun... but not necessary. Periodically you might overconsume, but you're able to balance the scales by having an Octsober, or no-drink-November like I am doing. For others... and it's a surprisingly high number (alcohol-related disease and death are more common in the US than heart disease), alcohol use isn't a thing. It's all or it's nothing. It's Alcohol abuse and it has consequences. In this episode of the Changed Podcast, Estevan J Zarate, or Chuy as I've always known him, shares the story of being diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver, and how that changed everything for him, for his family... and for his survival. Takeaways from this conversationThere are some warning signs that go with abusing alcohol: hiding your drinking, sneaking sips between tasks, and using alcohol as your go-to strategy for everything; from coping with stress and handling heartbreak to celebrating the mundane as intensely as the triumphant. There are some warning signs that go with cirrhosis of the liver including yellowing of the skin, nose bleeds or bruising easily, and bloating or swelling. There are lots of reasons to choose life over death. Even in the direst of times, it is worth the work to stay alive. And even more so if you're a dad, like Chuy. Unfortunately, those reasons aren't always obvious. Sometimes just sitting down and making a list of reasons to live is a task worth doing. If you're having trouble getting started... start small, or make it up. Your brain will come along for the ride eventually. Links and ResourcesIF you prefer watching to listening. This episode is also available on videohttps://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod ( for members of our Patreon community) If you suspect your relationship with alcohol is causing damage to your body, and your relationships and would like to stop before you are diagnosed with a deadly disease like cirrhosis of the liver, you can find your local Alcoholics Anonymous at http://www.aa.org (https://aa.org), you can seek help through SAMHSA by visiting https://www.samhsa.gov/find-treatment (https://www.samhsa.gov/find-treatment) or you can call the SAMHSA helpline at 1-800-662-HELP.

On a lighter note, if you're interested in any of the improv resources we discussed in the first section of the episode You can find Merlin-Works Institute for Improvisation (where Chuy and I used to teach together) http://www.merlin-works.com (HERE). The Hideout Theatre, where Chuy and I have performed together many times is https://www.hideouttheatre.com/ (HERE). The musical improv group we referenced from our shared festival experience at the http://alaskaimprov.com/ (Alaska State Improv Festival) (in fact if you go to the festival website, the cover image has us and Chuy featured!), is BABE Improv, and our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/babeimprov (HERE )

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In this special Halloween Edition of the Changed Podcast, co-hosted with Eric Nepom, we've invited Kevin Miller to talk to us about ghosts, tell stories.... and see if maybe we can relate things back to making things better for the living before we all transition to the ultimate life change... death.Kevin Miller is an 18 year veteran of the improvised theatre and classroom with several commercial appearances under his belt, including as a storyteller on The Mortified Guide (he's the one with the big ol' Starship Enterprise). In his spare time, he also gives the occasional ghost tour in his home base of Austin, Texas. This year we were lucky enough to tag along (and so can you!) because, thanks to a global pandemic making travel and gatherings super-risky, https://www.facebook.com/503270323/videos/10164296633255324 (he did his ghost tour digitally)! Halloween is a mega-event in my household... but not because of me. Every year my husband, Eric Nepom, decks our house out with creepy decor, Halloween lights, and a giant inflatable pumpkin... with ghosts inside! Eric Nepom is also a fantastic performer, storyteller, and interviewer in his own right, so for this episode where I invited Kevin to tell me scary stories from murder past...it was a no-brainer to invite him to co-host with me! AND it's definitely not because ghost stories scare me. I swear! Does this episode have takeaways? YES!First, making a direct connection between ghosts stories and the meaning of change... may be pushing it. BUT there are still valuable lessons to be learned from sharing ghost stories It is okay to be skeptical. But as Kevin suggests, skepticism can interfere with letting these stories be fun and interesting. "Join us in the fun place!" Ghost stories, don't just serve as chilling scare-ticklers for our brains... they also teach us history and add to the richness of life and assign meaning to the places where they are set. Getting scared is kinda fun... when our lives aren't actually in jeopardy. Perhaps our fascination with the unnatural and uncanny is that they give us micro-survivor experiences by causing our hearts to beat more rapidly, and merely walk away giggling. Links! You want 'em... and we got 'em!https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (CLICK HERE )to watch this episode on our Patreon for FREE!... if you like seeing faces to go with your voices that is. Support your local arts organizations, and please consider offering support to one of ours! Our favorite local to us arts organization is the Funhouse Lounge in SE Portland... and currently they cannot afford to operate. Typically Eric Nepom and I both can be found in the improvised Scooby-Doo meets the Saw thriller: Murder Mystery Machine. You can support the Funhouse Lounge by donating, or buying fun and hilarious merchandisehttps://www.funhouselounge.com/ ( CLICK HERE) Austin Ghost Tours... where Kevin Miller got his ghost story start used to operate out of The Hideout Theatre... where he got his improv start. The Hideout is continuing to chug along with digital content and you can support them, by simply buying a ticket to one of their digital shows. https://www.hideouttheatre.com/ (CLICK HERE). Recently they learned that they may lose their historic downtown building... and could use all the help they can get. Do you have a ghost story?? I want to hear it!! Shoot me an email to podcast@artofchange.com with the subject line: Here's My Story.... and I might even record it to share with the rest of the podcast listeners!

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Mike Shethar (just call him Mikey, everyone does) is a Culinary Consultant, a Podcast Host, a Men's Fertility Coach, and an all-around delightful human being - this week on the Changed Podcast!He's a super fun person to talk to, and he had me smiling and laughing through our entire conversation. Mikey Shethar's primary job title is Culinary Consultant. That means he gets to use his imagination to help food brands both big and small think up delicious, new, and interesting food, that they then put on the shelves for you and me to consume! But his creativity doesn't stop there, and in this episode, we get to hear one of the early stories in Mikey's journey through his own imagination. And it's a story with a title: The Rad Cafe. His latest project is becoming a dad with his lovely wife, with whom he co-hosts the podcast, Mikey and Rinne Stay In. It's a fun, funny, silly look at their fertility journey which features interesting guests along with their particularly goofy senses of humor. Changed Podcast TakeawaysThere is a joy to be had in thinking all the thoughts and dreaming all the dreams. The story of the Rad Cafe shows us that implementing great ideas is satisfying in one way, but simply letting your imagination go big carries its own particular joy. And sometimes you may land on something you actually want to try and do... Bonus! Avocado Toast started as an idea! Truthfully, it had never occurred to me that the innovative foods that become the foods we take for granted somewhere. It may seem obvious but foods have trends, and much of what we think of in terms of "yum, yum!" started out as a 'crazy idea before it ever hit our palates. But for me, the epiphany that food begins as an exercise in imagination was a lovely one to have. The world needs more joy, silliness, and fun now more than ever... and 5% more of that counts! This is a view I already hold, you've heard me talk about it many times, but this conversation certainly reinforced that for me. The conversation itself was so much fun, that my own day was more than 5% better for having had a little laughter. What's the 5% better you can add to make the world better? Your household? The lives of those you care about? "We can dream all the dreams. We can think all the things!" -Mike Shethar Links, Links... Here Are Some Links!As always, if you prefer watching two people have a conversation over just listening, this Changed Podcast conversation with Mike Shethar is https://youtu.be/2acDghVpy0U (available to watch on our Patreon Page) Visit http://www.mikeshethar.com/ (www.mikeshethar.com) to learn more about the culinary consulting work that Mikey does, or about Mikey in general. Check out Mikey and Rinne Stay In on https://open.spotify.com/show/50uMv7f71CccxXkrAf2gLS (Spotify), on https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mikey-and-rinne-stay-in/id1465423952 (Apple Podcasts), or look it up on your favorite podcast service Speaking of fertility journeys, if you are interested in learning more about how Mike Shethar might help you on your own journey to becoming a Dad, you can send your questions to hello@mensfertilitycoach.com If you enjoyed this conversation about dipping into imagination, and haven't listened yet, I suggest this episode from https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/andrew-williams/ (Andrew Williams )who embarked on a series of experiments to better himself, or this episode with the very creative https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/guillermo-martinez/ (Guillermo Martinez), who is Head of Story for Sony Motion Pictures'

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Jen Ables shares the importance of separating career and interests from self through two extremely personal examples that demonstrate how dramatically everything can change.Jen has worn many hats in her life, from insurance underwriter to professional dancer to the founder of a charity. This journey took her from a cubicle in Philadelphia to a guest of the White House and includes a flag being flown in her honor in Kandahar Air Field, Afghanistan. Throughout her roller coaster, one thing has made itself abundantly clear, a successful career does not equate to happiness, nor does it guarantee continued success. When it comes to identity, Jen is more than familiar with the need to find intrinsic internal value in oneself... because everything else is subject to change. Takeaways from this conversationIf you are the kind of person who cannot separate what you love doing from how you achieve success then Jen's storytelling offers a cautionary tale. Understand what value you have to offer beyond skills that you've learned or businesses that you have built. Knowing this (or being vulnerable to ask someone else) can be helpful when life asks you to pivot, or you decide to make a big leap. Understand what you value in life, in experiences, in relationships, and in your work. If you love dancing... what is that you love about dancing? Why is that important to you? If you know what you truly care about it, then if the way you have been actualizing that value suddenly shifts, you'll be better poised to find new ways to live in a way that fulfills what matters to you. Understand what your body needs... and then give your body what it needs. This takeaway has now shown up in more than one of our storytellers' experiences, and is beginning to become a theme! It's a hard lesson for me personally but it's abundantly clear how critically important it is. We often pretend that Body is there to merely fulfill all of Brains wishes... but Body has needs too, and sometimes Brain has to take a break so that Body can be better ready to serve... Want some sweet links?? Well, ok!Jen has a 6-week course in the works, designed for those who have found themselves frustrated and overwhelmed by a society that defines us by what we do instead of who we are. When it launches, it will be available at https://jenables.com/ (jenables.com) You can listen to this episode through any number of podcasting services, or you can become a member of our Patreon to https://youtu.be/Wuxsu_TS4v8 (watch it on video) Another terrific story of career pivot is found in https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/gary-ware/ (Episode 9 with Gary Ware ) And if you would like a reminder that life is also MAGIC, then listen to https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/madeleine-ryan/ (episode 16 with Madeleine Ryan)

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In this episode of the show, you'll meet Reshanda Yates, whose goal, having overcome binge eating, is to empower women to be confident, love their bodies and love their relationships with food.She is also the host of "Better Late Than Never" a podcast on Anchor.fm, intended to be a place for people who are ready to move forward after addiction, procrastination, chronic negative thinking, and other distractions that have kept them from living a life they can be proud of. As she says, "Late bloomers welcome!" After years of disordered eating including binge eating followed by punishing herself by NOT eating, Reshanda Yates lost 60lbs by doing the most counterintuitive thing you can imagine: she stopped trying to lose weight, quit dieting, let go of control, and began seeking the support that she truly needed to love and accept herself. Takeaways from this episodeIn making positive changes in your life, it's really never too late to forgive yourself, regroup and refocus on what you do want instead of don't want. There is a weird relationship between getting what you want and letting control to get there. Like walking and chewing gum, we benefit from being able to hold the space for the outcome we want and let go of the path to get there... allowing ourselves to be human along the way. If driving and texting is a wake-up call (which it was in Reshanda's story) what might be your wake-up call waiting to happen? What are you unconsciously prioritizing in your life, while endangering the lives of those around you? And what might you shift to have a better outcome? Did you come for links? Well... here are your links!Curious about my first podcast that I co-hosted with my dear friend Margery, and which I briefly mention here? Well, "Positive Thinpact" is also on Anchor.fm, and you can listen to it if you https://anchor.fm/positivethinpact (CLICK HERE) https://anchor.fm/reshanda-yates (CLICK HERE )to listen to Rehsanda's podcast "Better Late Than Never." Reshanda Yates's special offer for listeners of the show is a FREE 3 Part mini-training called Stop the Binge Before it starts https://sendfox.com/reshandayates (CLICK HERE ) This episode is also available to watch on video for Patreon members https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (CLICK HERE) If you enjoyed this episode (obviously share it with a friend! But also...) you may also gain something from hearing another story of a 'wake up call' from Confidence Coach, Nadine Montaghami. Warning, the story is quite intense, but also quite powerful. https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/nadine-montaghami/ (CLICK HERE)

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Andrew Williams, author of the book: 'Survive and Thrive: 120 Ideas to Cultivate Your Leadership Agility,' is a leadership enthusiast, facilitator and coach who first and foremost considers himself an experimenter in life.In this episode, Andrew shares some of the results of his more recent experiments and offers an important perspective on the change process for all of us. Takeaways from this conversationAndrew suggests that part of processing change is about grieving loss. Loss of what was supposed to happen, loss of the identity you thought was yours, loss of a job, loss of a habit. I often tend to put emphasis on energetic choices and moving forward with what you do want instead of dwelling on what you don't want. However, I think taking time to grieve, even if it's for a solitary breath does indeed offer an important perspective on allowing ourselves to be human... and I am always a fan of making room to be human. One foot in front of the other is Andrew's motto--a motto useful in helping businesses enact change, in learning new skills, and in running a marathon at Mt. Everest. It is a theme that comes up often. Rather than try to go from 0 - 100 in all things... sometimes small increments (0 to 10... now 10 to 20) are much more effective. Though not quite so dramatic as a bounding leap, a step is still moving in a direction, and movement beats stagnation. Our world is simultaneously a massive place and a small one. I am grateful to be able to have meaningful conversations such as this one with a colleague sat on the other side of the globe. Links!Andrew's business is called Cultivate Agility. http://www.cultivateagility.com/ (Click HERE) to visit the website. Andrew's book "Survive and Thrive: 120 Ideas to Cultivate Your Leadership Agility" can be found on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Survive-Thrive-Cultivate-Leadership-Agility/dp/0648554805 (Click HERE). If you prefer to watch this episode while you listen, https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (CLICK HERE) to enjoy all episodes on video as members of The Changed Podcast Patreon! Another interesting conversation that gives you, the listener, an incredible mental movie to enjoy, is this fantastic and thorough conversation with 12 Monkey's actor, Todd Stashwick. Click https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/todd-stashwick/ (HERE) to check it out.

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Mimi Bishop and Jackie Ghedine are both certified life coaches who focus their work on Generation X women.Co-founders of http://www.therestingmind.com/ (The Resting Mind,) they are co-hosts of the podcast https://www.therestingmind.com/podcast (Make Your Life Magnificent with Jackie + Mimi) available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Stitcher and have been featured in Business Insider, Entrepreneur, Thrive Global, Tiny Buddha, TEDx and are VIP Experts at FairyGodBoss.  Many of their clients have the skills, experience, and accomplishments, but they find themselves getting tongue-tied when having to answer the age-old questions, “tell me about yourself.” Using The Resting Mind’s proprietary tools combining brain science and energy leadership they help Gen-X women create sustainable change.  In this dual-guest episode, these women share their thoughts on the impact of our thoughts, what energy leadership is, and how we can make choices about how we show up, as well as their own stories of moments from their lives where the understanding of the world and their relationships changed as a result of important loss, or fear of loss. Takeaways from this episodeWhile our energy may impact how we feel, our thoughts directly influence our energy. We can make choices about how we want to behave and the way we want to resonate in the world. How we choose to view our experiences in life, can lead us to a place of incredible learning. The easiest way to learn from an experience is to pause and ask the question: "What can I learn from this?" Shared moments of life tension where we are forced to rely on another human being and to show up for them in important ways create important bonds. If we allow these bonds to remain part of our lives, they can act as a gift in what might otherwise simply be a painful memory. People have a tendency to go the most extreme language in labeling their emotional experiences. BUT not every experience is a 10 out of 10 on the pain or pleasure scale. Because words have power, it is wise to differentiate true pain and tragedy from hiccups and blips in life. Links to things!If you haven't yet, please https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-changed-podcast/id1516559215 (click to go to Apple Podcasts )right now, click subscribe and leave a 5-star rating along with your review of The Changed Podcast If you prefer to watch while you listen, this episode is also available on video. Visit our Patreon to learn more: https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (click here!) Book recommendation from guest, Jackie Ghedine: Why We Can't Sleep by Ada Calhoun - https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Cant-Sleep-Ada-Calhoun-audiobook/dp/B07XPBZYD4/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx4G50seC7AIVNAnnCh3RSwXHEAAYAiAAEgJNk_D_BwE&hvadid=397075597858&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9032878&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14148728206494722937&hvtargid=kwd-787775534387&hydadcr=14814_10199650&keywords=why+we+can%27t+sleep&qid=1600976884&sr=8-1&tag=googhydr-20 (click to view Amazon) Mimi & Jackie's coaching business: https://www.therestingmind.com/ (The Resting Mind) Listen to their podcast: https://www.therestingmind.com/podcast (The Make Your Life Magnificent Podcast with Mimi + Jackie). Special thanks to these two as well for the shoutout https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/when-you-cant-avoid-difficult-conversations/id1489096550?i=1000485760781 (on this episode) back in July!

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In this episode of the Changed Podcast, Madeleine Ryan, author of A Room Called Earth shares her view of the world, and the beauty that is life and being alive on this planet. Her story of pivot focuses on the moment when she committed to being a writer and offers inspiration to those who don't quite feel like they have fully embraced who they truly are in the world just yet.Madeleine Ryan is an Australian writer, director, and author. She is the author of the newly released debut novel, A Room Called Earth. She lives in rural Victoria. But for our conversation with each other, we were separated only by a screen. For me, it was as if we were sitting across the table from each other. Madeleine self-identifies as an autistic woman, but I would describe her as a bit wise, and somewhat magical. I have always believed that understanding the views of people who think differently is worth the time because diverging views can be a gift, particularly in team settings, ideation, and so on. While the term neurodivergent came up, I will be honest that I am unclear as to the meaning. Who's to say what's normal? What are the acceptable parameters for thought in the modern world? In my mind, we are ALL different, with our own beautiful gifts to offer, so it's likely no surprise that this is the direction that much of our conversation took. Madeleine's novel, https://www.amazon.com/Room-Called-Earth-Novel/dp/0143135457 (A Room Called Earth), also struck me as a completely relatable, very feminine piece of writing. An absolute pleasure to read and a celebration of the human experience from the magical and ethereal down to the nuts and bolts. Set in the course of one day, this book takes us into the inner narrative and outward experiences of one woman as she prepares for, attends, and interacts at a party... essentially in real-time. I highly recommend this read. My takeaways from this conversationLife is Magic. You'll hear Madeleine say this, and I truly believe it, "It's great you're here. Life is magic." While it's true that not all experiences are the living equivalent of a mythical unicorn... I do think that a lot of what we take for granted in this life is truly miraculous. AND the more we can pause and appreciate the gift that simply existing on this planet represents, the more we can contribute to others' experiences here being lovely and rewarding. Action is required to reap the greatest reward in life and work. While I do not adhere strongly to the idea of destiny, and Madeleine seemed to strongly suggest that actually yes, each of us does have a destiny here (a truly comforting thought).... we both agree that "we have to be active players in our destiny," as Madeleine so eloquently observed. Life presents us with opportunities but it is certainly up to us to take them. There may be quite a lot to learn from a fig tree, and https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Engineering-Yogis-Guide-Joy/dp/0812997794 (Inner Engineering: A Yogi's Guide to Joy by Sad Guru) sounds like an interesting read. What about you? What did you take or learn from this episode? Send your thoughts about this episode or the show in general by https://thechangedpodcast.com/contact/ (clicking here). If you haven't listened yet, then I wish you happy listening! Or if you prefer https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (watching on video) then I wish you happy viewing! If you like this episode of The Changed Podcast, I suspect you will also enjoy https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/shannon-stott/ (this conversation with improviser Shannon Stott), who talks about letting 'the divine' (whatever that might mean to you) be your guide!

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What's cooler than cool? Not being cool. That's according to Jeff Harry in this episode of the Changed Podcast.Jeff Harry is an international speaker who has presented at conferences such as INBOUND, SXSW, and Australia’s Pausefest, showing audiences how major issues in the workplace can be solved using play. Jeff was selected by BambooHR & https://engagedly.com/top-100-human-resources-influencers-of-2020/ (Engagedly as one of the Top 100 HR Influencers of 2020) for his organizational development work around dealing with toxic people in the workplace. His playwork has been featured on AJ+, SoulPancake, the SF Chronicle, and CNN. While we spend most of our time pretending to be important, serious grownups, it's when we let go of that facade and just play, that the real magic happens. Fully embracing your own nerdy genius — whatever that is — gives you the power to make a difference and change lives.  Jeff believes that we already have many of the answers we seek, and by simply unleashing our inner child, we can find our purpose and, in turn, help to create a better world. He's a forever kid. Talking to Jeff was like talking to the little brother I never had (I'm an only child). He's energetic, he's silly and he plays with legos... I mean, his lego bowtie has become a kind of symbol not just to him but to many! He's also insanely insightful, an incredible facilitator, and has good reason for letting go of the pressures so many of us have caved under as we've 'grown up.' Takeaways from this episodeThis should go without saying, but racism and hatred are never cool. So if in the pursuit of trying to be cool that is the route you're choosing...don't. Speaking of cool... letting go of the need to be cool opens up a world of acceptance for being who you are. With the number of people currently living on this planet, what even is cool anyway?! Find people who are like you, who like you as you are, and then broaden out from there! The truth is, we all have a nerdy and silly side. You attract more sense of belonging for yourself by creating a place where people are allowed to belong as themselves. Trying to feel valued by people who clearly do not value you is a losing battle. This is why trying to be the person people want to hire never works when you're job hunting. Be the best you that you can possibly be, and then look for places where that would be of tremendous value. If you're curious about what you really care about deeply... you can mine your memories for that information! Dig into one of your favorite play-based memories from your childhood and then notice what you really cared about or enjoyed from that moment in your history. Those are the qualities you should create more of in your RIGHT NOW! Links and links! Here are your links!Jeff Harry can be found at https://www.rediscoveryourplay.com He is also offering https://calendly.com/rediscoveryourplay/explorationcall (One free 30-minute coaching session) where we explore how to play through uncertainty during these times. Check out his inspiring talk at the World Domination Summit by https://youtu.be/XT_viexWKJ4 (clicking here.) As always this episode is available on https://youtu.be/GvjQFIwrlDk (video for members of our Patreon )if audio-only media isn't your favorite. Jeff is a sometimes collaborator with Gary Ware, you can https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/gary-ware/ (listen to his interview on the show here)

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Episode 14 features Apryl Zarate Schlueter, who is the Chief Energy! Officer of The Cheerful Mind, Inc. – a personal empowerment and lifestyle brand that is committed to cultivating REAL confidence and success through productivity, passion, and play. Her superpower is creating customized solutions to help people and organizations FOCUS on WHAT TRULY MATTERS.Apryl is the founder of https://thecheerfulmind.com/ (Cheerful Mind )Media, as well as https://www.accountabilitysuccesscircle.com/ (The Accountability Success Circle), a community in which she teaches tools and techniques for “having more fun while getting stuff done” and living a life driven by personal values. Apryl is also a motivational speaker, professional emcee, holds certifications as a professional coach and body language trainer, and is the author of https://findingsuccessinbalance.com/ (Finding Success in Balance: My Journey to The Cheerful Mind. ) Takeaways from this episode1) Know what you value in life, and then live your life by those values! 2) It's okay not to know what you're doing! (special shoutout to artist and maker https://www.etsy.com/people/misshalyn (Halyn Erickson)) 3) The body and mind are deeply connected. We've all heard 'mind over matter' but sometimes when we're not listening to our body's needs, it becomes matter over mind! Helpful Links:As usual, if watching these episodes is your preference to listening... you can https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (join our Patreon) community to unlock the video for this conversation... along with the rest of the Changed Podcast episodes from season 1. Check out The Accountability Success Circle: https://www.accountabilitysuccesscircle.com/ (https://www.accountabilitysuccesscircle.com/) Pick up a copy of Apryl's Book! https://findingsuccessinbalance.com/ (https://findingsuccessinbalance.com/) Last week on this show we spoke with one of the world's prominent immunologists about COVID and about embracing change as a scientist. https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/science-with-jerry-nepom/ (CLICK HERE )to check it out!

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In this episode of the Changed Podcast, it's Gerald T. Nepom M.D., Ph.D., Director of the Immune Tolerance Network, and former director of Benaroya Research Institute! As part of the direct COVID response efforts, Jerry has plenty of thoughts to share on curiosity, change, flexibility, and science! We are living through a time where science is referred to at the dinner table, possibly more than any other period in history (according to me). With COVID 19 top of mind for everyone, we are looking to the scientific community to tell us how to be safe, to tell us they'll find a cure, to tell us ANYTHING that will make us feel less shaky and more secure in these particularly "turbulent times" (as I have heard every corporate entity refer to 2020, in the massive number of sales-related emails I receive every week). So I thought, why not invite a prominent immunologist onto the show to talk about the broad concept of change! The sciences are built on the idea that our understanding of the world is ever-changing, and I just so happen to have a scientist-in-law to ask about the role of flexibility in scientific research! Gerald T. Nepom, M.D., Ph.D., who goes by ‘Jerry’ to just about everyone is Director of the https://www.immunetolerance.org/ (Immune Tolerance Network), a National Institutes of Health initiative for immune therapies of disease, and founder and former Director of the https://www.benaroyaresearch.org/ (Benaroya Research Institute), in Seattle WA, USA.  He’s also my uncle-in-law, a native Oregonian, a professor at the https://www.immunology.washington.edu/faculty/affiliate-faculty/nepom/ (University of Washington), and a scientist credited with numerous discoveries over decades of work, with a career he describes as devoted to Change.  His scientific achievements are well recognized and respected. He is past president of the http://www.focisnet.org/ (Federation of Clinical Immunology Societies) and has published over 350 scientific papers on discoveries ranging from basic science to clinical medicine.  Jerry also serves as an advisor for many academic and nonprofit organizations involved in biomedical research, and received recognition through several awards, including the University of Washington School of Medicine Distinguished Alumni Award.  And talking with him was remarkably reassuring, fascinating, encouraging, and inspiring! Takeaways from this conversationIf the incredibly resource-intensive (time, money, people, etc.) projects that scientists conduct benefit from flexibility and a willingness to be changed... SO CAN THE REST OF US! Something else (and this reminds me of improv!) that scientists benefit from, is the reality that scientific work is about building on the discoveries, trials, errors, and understandings of the people who came before you, and will continue to be built on further from the people who come after you. The answers to the BIG questions evolve. What was true a few months ago is different now because of continued scientific discovery. Some things remain constant and some things change. A lot changes actually. But 'eureka moments' are few and far between, so our understanding often changes slowly. As always, if the audio version of this podcast ain't your thang, you'll find the https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (video for this episode is available here!) Are you all caught up on the latest episode of The Changed Podcast?

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Episode 12 of the Changed Podcast features Executive Coach/Consultant, Melissa ThornleyTrying to describe Melissa Thornley is like trying to describe a beautiful patchwork quilt or the contents of a haberdashery. The question isn't to ask her what has she done... better to ask what hasn't she done! From burlesque to executive coaching Melissa is a woman of many talents, a lot of fascinating experiences, and a journey that continues to unfold. When I asked her "what are your feelings about change?" in her interview on the Changed Podcast, it was no surprise that the answer came back, "I thrive on it!" Specializing in emotional intelligence and instinctive working styles, Melissa Thornley operates at the intersection of the left brain and right brain.  She has years of experience as an advertising/film industry executive. Melissa led creative teams in Chicago, New York, and London. Previous clients include McDonald’s, Walgreens, Anheuser Busch, Nike, Capital One, Coca-Cola, and PBS. She is also the former Chicago Director of the Institute for Management Studies, where Melissa collaborated with talent and leadership departments of Fortune 500 companies on leadership initiatives to serve emerging leaders to senior-level executives. In addition to her traditional business background, she often draws upon her training in improv and mindfulness, keeping her creative juices flowing through kung fu, dance, yoga, and writing.  Takeaways from this conversation:Sometimes CHANGE shows up in the form of an unexpected gift like getting a phone call on the Nile; or it can be the result of making hard choices, like choosing to leave a job or a marriage. No matter what kind of change it is, there is a moment when it's not just ok, but critically important to pause, say "I have no idea what I'm doing," reassess and then move forward. Big journeys begin with little steps. [/read] Helpful Links:Melissa's website: https://www.melissathornley.com/ (https://www.melissathornley.com/) Leadership Coaching for Women through Tiara: https://www.tiaraleadership.com/individual (https://www.tiaraleadership.com/individual) This episode is also https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (available to watch )as a Patreon supporter of the Changed Podcast.

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Shannon Stott: Professional Improviser shares an internal moment of pivot on the Changed PodcastShannon Stott happens to be one of the most delightful people you will ever meet. She and her husband Gus have been making the world a better place on Shannon's YouTube channel by delightfully 'destroying' improv together. We talk so much about improv on the Changed Podcast, I felt like I was long overdue to invite a full-time improviser onto the show! AND who better than Shannon Stott, of Shannon Stott improv. Her passion for the art form is enough to make anyone want to jump up and join in on a game of zip-zap-zop! More importantly than enthusiasm though, Shannon has used the art form of 'making it up on stage' to explore our world in particularly interesting ways, including the show she describes in this episode, Twins, in which she and creative partner Quinn Buckner, dance along the lines of what's comfortable and culturally acceptable in order to better understand the differences and universalities in human experience. Takeaways from this episodeThis episode is full of keepers. I loved the simple honesty of Shannon's declaration, "It is hard to create something without a blueprint." But there were a couple of key takeaways that Shannon points out that come from improv but speak directly to the heart of how we might cope with the continually changing landscape in which we live. It is possible to develop deep empathy by 'being' someone else. This isn't the same as pretending to be someone else. It is instead about for a moment allowing yourself to feel what it feels like to walk, talk, sit, breathe, THINK the way another human does. Checking your understanding with people in service of deepening what you know instead of proving it, builds trust. If you have an inkling that something you've said or done may have impacted someone, you may want to check with them. If you suspect that you are jumping to conclusions about why someone is behaving or talking in a certain way, you might check your assumptions with that person, rather than choose actions based on what you're actually making up and don't really know. Relationship is the foundation for asking good questions in improv... and in real life. On stage, asking questions that go nowhere "What are we doing? Who are you?" aren't great for furthering the scene. The same is true in collaboration, goal setting and so much more. Instead, use your relationships (including the one you have with yourself) to spark meaning-filled questions. If you're lost, confused, or curious about something, someone in the audience is too! On stage, performers are trained to think about the audience experience. This is also an incredible frame for making an impact in the world. In fact, it was my assumption that if I was curious, about the concept of change, and how people identify pivotal moments in their lives, other people must be curious too. AND that's why I created this podcast!

Shannon's story also shows us that listening to divine inspiration, or whatever you want to call it, maybe hard to interpret at times, but can lead you to tremendous creativity, career, partnership, and LIFE in general! To subscribe to Shannon Stott's YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQUaPKg_oSzX3a4xLLy90zA (click HERE) Thank you for reading Happy listening!

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Motivational speaker Lou Radja shares his thoughts on 'dancing in the rain,' on being part of the complicated tapestry of human experience, and on finding the intersection of success and significance.As a social entrepreneur, https://louradja.com/ (Lou Radja) is deeply dedicated to helping individuals and teams thrive at the intersection of success & significance. He is a recognized and award-winning Motivational Speaker offering training on leadership, personal growth, diversity, and service which serve to inspire and equip audiences around the world, to https://louradja.com/daily-video-inspiration (Be More and Give More). He is also the Founder and Executive Director of https://www.facebook.com/EduCongo-Inc-149190347475/ (EduCongo), a U.S.-based nonprofit organization devoted to generating awareness and support to provide quality education for over 2,000 underprivileged children in the Congo. Lou Radja and I met briefly in 1993 and have lived parallel lives in many ways. And in many ways, our lives have been worlds apart. We are both speakers. We are both residents of the Pacific Northwest. We are both immensely inspired by our fathers. AND we both believe deeply that humanity is a whole, beautiful, messy, and intertwined unit. And that bringing out the best in ourselves and each other in order to make a positive impact on the world matters. We both see the possibility of a beautiful future. We both believe that a beautiful future begins in each of our own hearts and minds right now. We are undoubtedly more alike than we are different. However, our experiences as teenagers in Ashland, Oregon could not have been more dissimilar. Lou was an athlete, I was a nerd. Lou spoke 4 languages in addition to English. I spoke English and I studied only enough Spanish to pass whatever was required of me to graduate. I am white. Lou is black. A difference that unfortunately played a role in his welcoming not just to this country, but to the idyllic town in which we both finished High School. Lou is clear. The stories he shares in this episode (and many others like it), do not define his full memory of Ashland, Oregon any more than they define who he is or who he has become. Instead his stories, simply illustrate that life is complicated. That community is messy and that it is all of our stories and all of our experiences combined that make up the tapestry of what IS in life. His stories are also in some ways a call to action. If we wish for the future to be different, then it is up to us to live, teach and build bridges in a way that makes that dream a reality. Takeaways from this episode...Lou's energy is warm, inspiring and he is a delight to talk with. These are a few of the thoughts I captured from our conversation. Ubuntu - I AM because WE ARE Lou shared this philosophy in which he was raised, which is simply the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity. I've heard this idea called different things over the course of my life, "spaceship earth being my particular favorite. Here's why this concept matters. When we recognize that ALL of us are connected, that there is no escaping each other, and that we have a shared responsibility to each other... it makes hatred and dismissal much more difficult. We are all part of this tribe called humanity. The good, the bad, and the ugly... we all own that. Together. Success without significance is hollow. Significance without success is not sustainable. I think we've all seen this in people we know and love. Some of us have experienced this ourselves. Many of you have reached financial success only to find that the money was unfulfilling because you were in a job you hated and found that you were left with a perpetually empty void where you were missing either heart, creativity, or both! Likewise, many of you have over-indexed on significance leaving yourselves exhausted and ineffective. Too much purpose without success can feel like banging your...

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Gary Ware shares the story of how he came to be the founder of Breakthrough Play on this week's episode of the Changed PodcastGary Ware is the Founder of Breakthrough Play. He is a self-proclaimed Creativity Catalyst who helps professionals reach their breakthrough moments while playing and having a great time.  Like many of my guests, Gary Ware has years of experience on stage as an improv performer. And like many of the improvisers I know (myself included) thought initially of improv as "just a hobby." However, after experiencing burnout in his pursuit of success and happiness, he realized that what was missing was Play. Gary points out that as adults, we often feel that "play" is childish or something that is distracting. Society plays pressures on us, making us feel like in order to be productive, we need to be glued to a desk for hours on end... but playing is actually incredibly valuable. Joy, fun, and silliness actually help us learn, explore new concepts, develop resilience, and much, much more. Takeaways from this episodeLife is going to happen. Some changes are easy and some are hard. There are a couple of things you can take from the world of improv theatre, to help you process changes as they happen: Play the scene you're in... Sometimes we have the luxury to sit back and grieve that this moment is no longer the previous moment, or worse that this moment isn't the moment we expected it to be! BUT most of the time, when faced with less than ideal changes like sudden job loss, or losing your home it can be helpful to take a pause and ask yourself what the offers are in the moment. In improv, an offer is anything you can simply take and use. So regrouping and processing is also about what can you play with as you move forward. If you're having trouble making a choice with the options you have, give yourself more options... When Gary lost his business, the choices seemed to be binary: either find a new job or seek unemployment... BUT there were a lot more options than first met the eye, and thanks to jumping outside of the circle of expectations (another term from the world of improv) Gary actually jumped a bit closer to what has felt like an even more satisfying heart-driven career. Be a human... You may not have time to grieve your losses in the moment, but at some point, your emotions will require your attention. It's a good thing. Allow yourself to process. And then take your lessons learn and move forward. Helpful Linkshttps://www.breakthroughplay.com/ (Click HERE) to learn more about Gary's work at Breakthrough Play. Check out Gary's TEDx on the value of play, entitled "How Play Saved my Life" by https://youtu.be/EzE3pBr7EL8 (clicking HERE). You can https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/todd-stashwick/ (click HERE) for last week's incredible conversation with Todd Stashwick. And if you prefer video to audio, the slightly longer, and way less edited version of our conversation lives on https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (our Patreon page) along with the longer and less edited versions of all The Changed Podcast episodes.

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We all know that change happens. We all know that it's up to us to interpret and determine the meaning of the events in our lives. But what filters do we choose? How shall we frame it up for ourselves... and where do we stand to benefit from what we've learned? This week on the Changed Podcast, actor and writer, Todd Stashwick shares his views on Styx, on becoming who you already are, and on the scar tissue that forms to make us stronger following abrupt and dramatic moments of change.You can find Todd Stashwick in almost every TV show. This man has done it all from sitcom to action so if he looks familiar to you, that's because you've seen him on screen. In recent entertainment memory you might have enjoyed Stashwick as Dr. Drakken in Disney's Kim Possible, or as Deacon in SYFY's series, 12 Monkeys. We sat down (together apart) in mid-April so I could pick his brain about life, change, the world... and more. A few things he shared really stuck with me.First, I was really struck by Todd's definition of change. Todd said "change is when you stop seeing something one way and start seeing them another way. It's the shattering of a paradigm" I thought the simplicity and complexity of that one observation was really interesting because instead of change being about action, or habit he really honed in on the mindset piece. Our experiences are what change our minds. Think you're invincible? Break a leg, and you may change your mind. Think you're better off alone? Meet someone, and fall in love despite yourself... and you might change your mind. Also... you might not change your mind. But the point is, that shifts both big and small offer us the opportunity to do so. Todd also described his own feelings about change as the difference between moving through a room with a flashlight vs a floodlight. This image has stuck with me since we sat down to record. I like picturing the whole of Earth's population wandering the landscape of decision-making carrying nothing but a flashlight to illuminate the corner of the table, or perhaps a cake set on that table along the way. Finally, I don't think I've ever met anyone so deeply devoted to the magic of one band (Todd will gladly fight anyone who disagrees that his...not favorite, but the certainly beloved band isn't pure genius)...And that it's Styx! Well, there's something kind of lovable about that. Give the Changed Podcast a 5-star review if you're feeling saucy! If you haven't already, the more people who subscribe, rate, and share this podcast, the more people are able to find it! So if you have a moment after giving this episode a listen, this little podcast would love to get some love! Also...If you haven't listened to https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/guillermo-martinez/ (this charming conversation )with Guillermo Martinez about his decision to leave Puerto Rico and pursue his life-long dream of becoming the animator (that he's become!), then you should! Of course, I'm biased... Happy listening!

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Writer, animator, and Head of Story on https://www.sonypicturesanimation.com/ (Sony Pictures Animation)'s upcoming feature film https://www.animationmagazine.net/features/connected-team-offers-sneak-peek-of-sonys-fun-fall-movie/ (Connected), Guillermo Martinez shares his story of leaving everything you know behind, so that he could make all of his dreams come true... on episode 7 of the Changed PodcastThis week, I have the honor of sharing this lovely conversation I had in mid-June with https://www.sonypicturesanimation.com/our-team/artists/guillermo-martinez (Guillermo Martinez), an improviser, writer, animator, and Head of Story on https://www.sonypicturesanimation.com/ (Sony Pictures Animation)'s upcoming feature film Connected slated to open in theaters on October 23rd, 2020 (https://youtu.be/toBGv7yvIV8 (click here )to watch the trailer). Guillermo and I met several years back on stage (or more likely in the green room) at https://curiouscomedy.org/ (Curious Comedy Theater) in Portland, OR. He is the kind of guy you see on stage or meet once and never forget. He's ridiculously playful and completely present and flexible as an improv comedy performer, so it's no wonder that he's been able to add tremendous value to fantastic stories at Cartoon Network, Laika, and Sony Pictures Animation. To truly get a sense of Guillermo's sense of play, you can check out this Tumblr (https://billybobmartinez.tumblr.com/page/2 (click here)) from a couple of years back, many posts are still super relatable, like this one poking fun at social media. Guillermo's origins as a wiz at storyboard and animation actually go back to his home of Puerto Rico, and the surprising small moment that led to his life-changing decision to leave home and pursue his dreams. Thoughts about this episode of the Changed PodcastWhen asked to identify a pivotal moment in life, I am surprised by how many people either tell a story of a moment of pain or struggle or simply recount the tale of opportunity knocking at their door. Guillermo's story is refreshing because, like the butterfly effect in chaos theory showing that small changes lead to big differences, his story points to how many small choices in life can lead to big outcomes. Is it possible to be aware in the moment, that the restaurant we're choosing to go to, or that choosing to drive or to walk may lead to tremendous outcomes down the line? I don't think so. But it is tremendously fun to look backward with the concept in mind, and see how the big moments in our life might have been precipitated by something else, seemingly minor at the time, which caused the ripples that opened or closed important doors. What about you? What are your butterfly effect stories? Or as we call them in the episode "movie-theater moments." Leave a comment, or https://thechangedpodcast.com/contact/ (send an email) and share your story! Helpful LinksLearn more about Connected, coming to theaters this fall (fingers crossed for a quick solution, or for the dissipation of our little Pandemic). Visit SPA by https://www.sonypicturesanimation.com/projects/films (clicking here), or watch the preview below: You can also check another project to which Guillermo contributed: We Bare Bears from the fine folks at Cartoon Network (website https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/we-bare-bears/index.html (here)) Available to https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg6KfZlgBuDXwQ56IZ8tByQGgmgONP4Wr (watch on YouTube).

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In this episode, AANP President, best-selling author, and motivational speaker, Dr. Rick Brinkman shares his journey from New York to Oregon and how it is he came to be on the path he is on.My conversation with Dr. Rick BrinkmanIf you look back to the pivotal moments in your life, how were your decisions guided? Did you rely on careful data analysis picking apart the pros and cons of each choice diligently? Did you allow someone else to chart your course for you, letting them choose rather than being the master of your own fate? Did you hear an internal voice, or feel an internal pull in a particular direction and allow that intuition to help you along to the next piece of your path? When it comes to CHANGE in life, Rick shows how "resistance to change is insane," you can simply "let intuition be your guide," if you tune in and take action based on what shows up. Considering how little of our life is actually up to us to control, perhaps letting go and letting God (or gut) guide actually makes the most sense of all. As Rick puts it, "Change is happening, all you can really do is go with the flow and make your best choices from there." That's not to say that we have zero control of our destiny. After all, if you want to make yourself miserable as Rick points out, all you have to do is "pick something in your present that you hate and see it going forever into your future." It seems important to make the distinction that letting intuition guide you through some decision-making means leaving decisions up to change. To me, it means the opposite! I think letting intuition be your guide means building your relationship and trust with your internal compass so that you can act quickly and successfully. Helpful Links:Learn more about Dr. Rick Brinkman on his website: https://www.drrickbrinkman.com/ (https://www.drrickbrinkman.com/) Get your copy of Dealing with Meetings You Can't Stand: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=QUFFLUhqbi1QU2syb1Fla0hyM0w0cG5RVGQ1aFoyeUlUd3xBQ3Jtc0trMm1Pb2NVQW1hZG0tZUFPZVlhZVJSX29PRVNHTkhKS3VXRjF5VGtUUGpSTXZ1MVFjcVpXM1QxcXBYUXVFN2M3R2NrblpoMTRzTlRfRG14Nzh0NTJlUDVnVVhSQ1NsakNfXzc4NVVnV1RjS2tUZHUyQQ%3D%3D&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB06Y5JMY1F%2Fref%3Ddbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i2&event=video_description&v=S7_rNQTyF9I (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06...) Or the best-selling classic, Dealing with People You Can't Stand https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGFjcGF4Vnp0bDdUOWFidXdPNzJsVmZ1V1lzd3xBQ3Jtc0tuNi1vVnZabVRUXzdNOHZlWThvWk5VQk84MnkyXzM3TDFFX2lTVXI0OWxNVEEwcWRaZHJJeU5sb3RXOEYwOEdkN2ZRaXNIMHVfZk9BVV9fWWx1bF9WT3JIaENuV3l3WUNzMkt1RFNhRHo1b3gtVVpWOA%3D%3D&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fgp%2Fproduct%2FB0085W9K5Q%2Fref%3Ddbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0&event=video_description&v=S7_rNQTyF9I (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...) Thoughts? Questions? Stories to share?Always happy to hear from our listeners. Feel free to leave us a comment, shoot us an email to podcast@artofchange.com or join the community conversation as a https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (Patreon Patron)! If you haven't already be sure to check out https://thechangedpodcast.com/episodes/dr-rick-kirschner/ (the episode from Dr. Rick Kirschner), who is mentioned in Dr. Brinkman's episode more than a few times and who co-authored the book Dealing With People You Can't Stand. Happy Listening!

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This week confidence and relationship coach https://www.facebook.com/confidencecoachnadine/ (Nadine Montaghami) shares her harrowing tale of survival. A violently traumatic day 8 years ago opened up a world of possibility for Nadine, as she had an unexpected "ah-ha moment." This wake-up call was the spark that changed everything. I invited Nadine onto the show because in reading her story (the same story she shares in this episode) I was particularly struck by how she had chosen to view this particular moment, a moment in which she was certain she would die... but didn't. Looking at her confident smile and calm demeanor today, it is hard to imagine the violent events that less than a decade ago shifted her outlook and approach to life... and to herself. Today Nadine is able to appreciate her own beauty and worth in ways that she never imagined, and more importantly, her work is now dedicated to helping other women do the same. Stories of trauma and domestic abuse are nothing new in our country, or in the UK where Nadine resides. In both places, roughly 1 in 4 women experience abuse at the hands of a trusted person over the course of their lifetime. 1 in 4. For men the numbers aren't much better, averaging 1 in 6 in the UK and 1 in 9 here in the US. And while these incidences of violence are often underreported, of the stories we hear the healing process and transformation of those on the receiving end of the horror often end up as a footnote. For those of us digesting what we hear in these tales, it is all too easy to simply say "whew glad that's over" and forget about it entirely. Except for survivors themselves. The healing process matters. Deeply. Doing the tough work to heal these wounds goes beyond simply forgiving and moving on. The forgiveness, the soul searching and the choices moving forward matters deeply, particularly because for many, like Nadine, physical reminders remain, and if you have chosen to share the story of what happens, people will ask you to tell and retell and tell again. Inner resilience becomes a shield, a weapon, and a beautiful tapestry all intertwined. It is Nadine's outcome that makes Nadine's story so incredibly beautiful. Her wake-up call was that she didn't need external validation, she needed internal validation. It was time to quit desperately seeking approval from outside herself, and do the tough work of loving her mind, her form, her spirit, and her gifts. We would all do well to heed this call. God-willing we hear it loudly and without the need for trauma to overcome. If you are a woman who wants to build powerful, confident, and loving committed relationships, you can find Nadine on Facebook where her private group https://www.facebook.com/groups/246873509152357/about (Queen of Hearts )serves as a safe and unfiltered space for growth.

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Episode 4 of the Changed Podcast features https://www.asapasap.org/bj-lange (BJ Lange). BJ is a retired USAF Reserve medic, who following a career (and life) altering diagnosis while on active orders, became enrolled in the Air Force Wounded Warrior Program (AFW2). He is both an ambassador and mentor in the program and now serves as the applied improv comedy coach teaching wounded, ill, and injured service members and their caregivers how to use improvisation as a healing tool as part of the program's wellness and https://www.keesler.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2043474/turning-laughter-into-a-resilience-tool/ (resiliency arm). Most people know BJ Lange for his dynamism and his charismatic demeanor as a host, actor, and comedic improviser. BJ has been seen on MTV, Jimmy Kimmel Live, and Comedy Central. He is also an instructor at The Improv Trick, 3-2-1 Acting Studios, and The Second City Hollywood where he leads the https://www.scpr.org/news/2017/03/27/70207/a-new-tool-for-vets-transitioning-to-civilian-life/ (Improv for Veterans Program). I met BJ at an improvised comedy and theatre http://alaskaimprov.com/ (festival up in Alaska) where we instantly hit it off... as is true of many people who participate in the improv community. There's just something about the connective tissue of shared joy... BJ has had to face one of the toughest blows to the ol' joy-meter, a diagnosis of testicular cancer... not once, but twice. So https://www.wearethemighty.com/news/cancer-awareness-warrior-games-2019?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1 (when he talks about resiliency), he's been there. Hell, he is there! Having witnessed my mother's journey battling breast cancer, I can tell you that I've seen the psychological toll that lives on the other side of simply doing what it takes to stay alive. What strikes me about BJ's story as a survivor though, is that through everything: the heartbreak of diagnosis, the awkwardness of simply living in the real world while receiving treatment, and losing out on opportunities because of compromised health, BJ has remained a heart-driven, service based individual. The harder his own challenges, the bigger his passion to bring more joy and resiliency into the world seems to grow. When we sat down for our 45 minute conversation we ended up talking for nearly 2 hours. Part of that is because he likes to talk... part of that is because we are both improvisers and kept dissolving into doing comedy bits, like introducing our feline pets to each other over Zoom, and part of it is because at one point (as the trained host he is...) BJ turned the questions around, and started interviewing me! (Click here to check out that interview). For ease of listening, I've edited things down to the meat of BJ's journey and it brings me a lot of joy and pride to be able to share our conversation with you. Learn more about the Armed Services Arts Partnership at http://www.asapasap.org (ASAPASAP.ORG) As always the video for this conversation (with bonus cat footage after the credits!) is available to members of our https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4wUWzEyTX18dmhUyD3s1_w (Patreon) If you haven't already, check out the inspiring conversation from last week with best-selling author and founder of the Art of Change--https://thechangedpodcast.com/dr-rick-kirschner/ (Dr. Rick Kirschner.)

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Recently as I was recording my interview of guest BJ Lange (you can check out my post about his episode of the Changed Podcast https://thechangedpodcast.com/bj-lange-resiliency-retired-usaf-medic/ (here)), I was surprised when he turned the tables on me! Suddenly HOST became GUEST! That's right... he was interviewing me! So, it is with selfish pleasure and a bit of amusement that I give you this bonus episode of the Changed Podcast, also available on YouTube.

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Dr. Rick Kirschner shares thoughts on change, opportunity, and this moment in history...Inviting https://www.artofchange.com/dr-rick/ (Dr. Rick Kirschner), who happens to be my dad, to be a guest on my podcast may feel like nepotism, but as the founder of my company and an expert in communication, change, and vitality how could I not? My dad is the creator and developer of a powerful approach to dealing with change that unlocks creativity, enhances team communication, and increases commitment, using a palette of essential attitudes, behaviors, and skills for communication and cooperation. Hishttps://www.artofchange.com/keynotes/ ( approach and methods are alive and well )in the work, I deliver as a trainer, coach, and keynote speaker. He's been influential for many, and particularly so for me, as those of you who have watched my TEDx on embracing change already know. He is the best selling author of numerous books and multimedia programs, including the co-authored international bestseller, Dealing With People You Can’t Stand: How To Bring Out The Best In People At Their Worst, Love Thy Customer, Life By Design, How To Click With People, all of which are available at your local bookseller (of course you can always https://www.powells.com/ (order through mine...)), and the comprehensive communication program, Insider’s Guide To The Art of Persuasion, which is available for purchase on https://www.artofchange.com/product/insiders-guide-to-the-art-of-persuasion/#page-content (the Art of Change website). A 1981 graduate of the https://nunm.edu/ (National University of Natural Medicine), Dr. Kirschner is the President of the https://www.naturopathicmedicineinstitute.org/ (Naturopathic Medicine Institute), a long-time faculty member with the https://ims-online.com/ (Institute for Management Studies), and a thought leader with Athena Interactive. He has delivered his expertise in thousands of radio and television appearances, interviews, newspaper and magazine articles, from CNBC and CBC to FOX, the Wall Street Journal to the USA Today. Ways to check out Dr. Kirschner's work:1) Dr. Rick's blog archive which offers thoughts, insight helpful communication tips, practices, and more is available for FREEhttps://www.artofchange.com/blog/ ( here). 2) Dr. Rick's Documentary Made with healthcare providers in mind, Dr. Kirschner's Documentary speaks to why it so often feels that good health is a low priority in the US. If you're interested in watching this 1 hour 45 min film https://vimeo.com/240690773/e8404c6b16 (you can do so here). You can watch the trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GEWc9kH1w (HERE ) 3) Dr. Rick's podcast The Vital Conversation The Vital Conversation is a groundbreaking, inspiring, and paradigm-shifting conference call featuring Naturopathic Physicians from around the world and available to the public. https://www.naturopathicmedicineinstitute.org/the-vc-public/ (Learn more here) And as always... Thank you for listening, for reading... and if you prefer to listen to your podcasts with your eyes and ears together, you can always https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (show a little love to The Changed Podcast through our Patreon,) and unlock the video for this and all other episodes of the show!

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I met Mo 14 years ago in Austin, Texas when we were both cast members of an all-female Musical Improv Group that neither of us is a member of anymore. Being in a musical improv group with Mo, and then later an improv duo called Battle-Axe (http://funnyoldladies.blogspot.com/ (check out this vintage Blogspot account!)) there are some things that I know to be true about this profoundly talented woman. I invited her to talk to me on the Changed Podcast for good reason. She’s a compelling storyteller (I loved her novel, but I've also been tugged along a delicately-strung-together improvised narrative by this dynamo and her ability to see the matrix of an improvised story as it is arriving). She is surprisingly good at freestyle rap... something I'm guessing you'll never hear her do because I'm pretty sure she'd deny her skills if you asked her about rap. Also, I could be wrong about that assumption, so feel free to ask her! Something else I know about Mo, she's an introspective, deep thinker. Reflecting on my conversation with Mo...It’s easy to view people’s accomplishments from the outside and say “wow, they really made it!” when behind those achievements lives a mix of blood, sweat, hard work, good luck, and heartbreak... AND there is no way of knowing how much of each, and in what order. Each moment on our own paths we are presented with opportunities to be changed… to pivot. They say that life is 10% what happens and 90% what you do with what happens. If you haven’t read Mo’s novel, Every Anxious Wave yet… I highly recommend you pick up a copy from your local bookseller. https://www.powells.com/book/every-anxious-wave-9781250067494 (Here's a link to mine). If you have thoughts you'd like to share, or stories about dreams, accomplishments, and surprises I would love to hear them! Feel free to drop me a line any time. And of course, as always, happy listening! Aden PS. If you prefer watching people talking instead of listening to them consider becoming a Patreon Patron! You can watch the video for this episode with Mo Daviau, unlock all of the video from Season 1 of the Changed podcast & more... simply by supporting The Changed Podcast through Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (CLICK HERE TO LEARN HOW) Is there someone you think would make an excellent guest on the Changed Podcast (bonus points it's someone you can connect us with directly...)? Please feel free to https://thechangedpodcast.com/contact/ (drop us a line) and tell us all about them!

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In this, the inaugural episode of the Changed Podcast, we are excited to bring you THE Mary Jo PehlMary Jo Pehl was a writer and actor on the television show Mystery Science Theater 3000 and was featured as the beloved arch-nemesis Pearl Forrester. She currently teams with Bridget Nelson making hilarious movie commentary on RiffTrax, and writes, produces and stars in the web series https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY4MLcVaTZFp8z3h-dLeRUg (Ruth Larson Lives)! on YouTube.  She is a crossword puzzle clue in a national magazine, and her memoir, Dumb Dumb Dumb: My Mother's Book Reviews, will be published later this year.  Reflections on Mary Jo Pehl's Story M.J. (as her friends call her) and I spoke on March 20th this year in the midst of our adjusting to Stay at Home orders across the country. As always our conversation was delightful, energizing and somehow familiar. From the first time we met over a decade ago, until now we've had a warm connection and though we don't speak often, I always look forward to our conversations. I started this project in January. But for the launch of the Changed Podcast, I chose to reach into the beginning of Spring. While this wasn't the first episode I recorded, I wanted it to be the first one I published for this project because even in the midst of profound present-moment change, she and I agreed that we can look to the past, and to our own interpretations of that big FAT word: CHANGE, to think about how we want to approach each present moment. For some people change is hard. For others change is easy. There are well-intended, loving gestures that can show up in pretty unsupportive-feeling ways... how you handle these moments can shift your whole perspective. Enjoy <3 Would you rather watch than listen? The slightly less edited version of Mary Jo Pehl's interview on The Changed Podcast is available for Patreon Subscribers to watch --> https://www.patreon.com/thechangedpod (Check out the Patreon), to unlock all of the videos from Season 1! Wanna skip to the end of Season One? Checkout one of these recent episodes

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