The Set Position: Recent Episodes

Kohl Orner

An inside look at goalkeeping and the impact it can have on the game of soccer. The podcast will talk about all aspects of goalkeeping and how to be successful at any level. Giving coaches and players in-depth content to improve their knowledge of goalkeeping.

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Kohl and Zak are joined by Alexa Ream, Head Women's Soccer Coach at Clarion University, and Olivia Kruger, Head Women's Soccer Coach at Greensburg Central Catholic High School, to talk their experiences after going through their first year as a head coach. They both talk about how they approached coming in as a new head coach and what they did to help put their teams on a path of success. COVID has caused many issues for teams all across the United States, Alexa and Olivia talk about the challenges this caused and how they approached them to help their team be successful. Alexa breaks down what the transition has been like to a first time college head coach and the pathway she is taking to implement a new culture. Olivia talks about her position as a high school head coach and coming into a program with historical success. She describes what she will look to do to continue this path of success. Olivia as we find out in her first season was able to help the team reach the state final. Join us on this episode to see what it is like to be a first year head coach!


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Mark Sappington, Goalkeeper Coach for Campbell University Women's Soccer, joins Kohl and Zak for the 3rd time to discuss the Modern Goalkeeper and how they train. The group starts off by talking about the daily life now in a COVID world and how they are running training. They talk about the differences now as to what it was before the pandemic hit. Kohl and Zak ask Mark how he approaches training now with the modern day goalkeeper. Mark discusses what he sees in today's goalkeepers and how their roles are continuing to change in the team concept. He talks about how it is important for a goalkeeper to be good with their feet and be able to command the back line on a consistent basis. The goalkeeper should be able to come off their line and deal with back passes and through balls. The group continues to talk about what a training session should look like to make sure goalkeepers are prepared for upcoming games. 


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Kohl and Zak are joined by Kim Wyant (New York University Head Men's Coach) to discuss her path to coaching the men's game. As you will learn Kim had a lot of success in the game during her playing career and played on the first US Women's National team as a goalkeeper. She talks about here path from a young player to her national team days and how that set her up for success in the coaching world. Kim talks about how she got to NYU and earned the role as the Head Men's Coach. She continues the conversation about the transition from coaching the women's game to the men's game and how she approached the change. She talks about her biggest challenges during her transition and how she stayed true to her coaching roots. Kim states that it is important to stay yourself and to not change your coaching style because you are not coaching a new gender. She says that players "will see right through you" and they won't support you in the same way. This is a lesson that many young coaches can take to heart and use in their everyday coaching. Kohl and Zak guide the last part of the conversation to goalkeeping and how she approaches goalkeeping today. She talks about how she is looking for the almost finished goalkeeper that needs those last couple adjustments to their game to be a finished product. Kim discusses the attributes that she looks for in goalkeepers and how she knows that they will be a good fit for her program. She continues the goalkeeping topic to talk about the youth game and what young goalkeepers can be doing to grow their skills to prepare themselves for future success.


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Kohl and Zak start a discussion about Competitiveness and how we can implement it into our training environments. The guys discuss why having a competitive culture is so important and how it can help lead to the overall success of the team. Kohl and Zak talk about what they do in their programs to build that competitive nature and how we can push out athletes to be competitive. They talk about how they can see the team starting to have more success on the field and in the classroom. Kohl and Zak feel that the more that you can bring a competitive culture the more enjoyable the environment is to be around. It becomes fun for the players and coaching staff. The episode does get cut a little bit short with some exciting news from Zak. Be sure to tune into the episode to learn what happens. 

P.S. Congrats on this great accomplishment. You have put so much time and effort into this and you deserve this recognition. All those years of hard work and grinding have paid off big time. You have so many other great things to come in the coaching world and this is just the beginning. Proud of you! - Kohl

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Kohl and Zak were approached by a listener to talk about The Coaching Path. They talk about the path they took to becoming coaches at the college level. Kohl and Zak break down their playing careers and how they set them up to being coaches now. The discussion starts with their early coaching careers and the coaching jobs they took to help them on a path of success. They express the importance of volunteering for different coaching positions to help get you name out there. Zak talks about how he worked for several different clubs and small coaching gigs before being a Graduate Assistant at Shippensburg University. Kohl talks about his similar path to becoming a Graduate Assistant at Averett University and his next steps to an Assistant Women's Coach at North Carolina Wesleyan College. Kohl and Zak had to put in their time to make it to their current positions and had to work some long days to make the career in coaching work. They state that it is not an easy path but one that is worth it if you are willing to put in the time and effort that it takes. It is not a career that is handed to many and comes with its many ups and downs along the way. Kohl and Zak state that there are going to be tough times but your time will come when you get that call. Enjoy your time coaching and making connections because you never know when it will be your time. If you have any questions about this episode don't hesitate to reach out to Kohl and Zak on Social media or to thesetposition@gmail.com. They would love to hear from you!


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Tyler Schatz, Women's Goalkeeper Coach at High Point University, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss the topic of the parry versus the catch. The group jumps right into the debate of the parry versus the catch and when to use each. Tyler talks about how he teaches when to use the technique of the parry and when a goalkeeper should be looking to catch. The groups agrees that there should be a catch first mentality in goalkeepers because this tends to limit the amount of shots that a goalkeeper is going to see. If a goalkeeper is going for a parry first mentality they are going to be putting the ball back into play more often. Tyler continues the conversation about when to go with one hand and when a goalkeeper should look to go with two. He breaks down a dive and talks about the height of the ball to determine the type of save. The group goes into talking about punching a ball and keeping an open hand to help the ball along. They discuss the importance of using an open hand in certain situations to get more surface area on the ball and when a goalkeeper should be looking to punch the ball out of danger. Tyler continues to break down the technique in these situations and how goalkeepers can continue to be successful. 


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Oumar Ballo, former Center Back for Sporting Kansas City, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss the Fear of Failure and Reading the Game. Oumar discusses how he approached the professional game and how he had to learn to be okay with failure. He states it is okay to fail but it is how you learn from the mistake that is important. Kohl and Zak echo that statement and say that there is always going to be failure in the sport. You have to learn from those failures so that you can continue to improve. Oumar stresses that you can not be afraid to fail. If you can continue to think about failure and what may happen, the chances of success at any level decrease. Kohl and Zak say that as long as a coach continues to work with you and have communication you are doing the right things. Fear of Failure is a real think but can be overcome by turning the negative things that happen and turning them into positives. This is a great way to continue to improve and make sure that you are staying on the right track.

The group turns the conversation to talk about Reading the Game. Oumar talks about how he read the game from a Center Backs perspective and the different cues. He speaks about how he approached the game and the moments that he knew were important for him to make decisions. From a coaching perspective Kohl and Zak talk about what they like to see players do in certain situations. The different cues are important for the overall success of the team and making sure from a defensive perspective goals are not conceded. There are so many different moments in the game and different factors that are going to change decision making. There is not one formula that is going to work for all situations, game experience is the best way to continue to hone these skills and improve your game.


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Bob Widdowson, former Sheffield United Goalkeeper and Notts County Ladies Goalkeeper Coach, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss the Evolution of Goalkeeping. The group discusses everything from how the ball has changed over the years to how goalkeepers did not wear gloves in the early years. They go into talking about how coaching the goalkeeping position has changed and what is coached now as apposed to 40 years ago. Bob brings his wealth of knowledge from many years around the game to discuss how he has seen the goalkeeping position change. He talks about his experiences playing in the professional ranks to then coaching the professionals. Bob talks about how he works with young players all the way up to the first team goalkeepers and how he approaches the sessions. The group talks about their times together at camps and how they train goalkeepers to help their growth. Bob discusses his Lifetime Achievement Award for Services to Goalkeeping at the FA Goalkeeping Conference in 2018. The conversation continues about how goalkeeping is continuing to change and what the next 10 years may look like in the world of goalkeeping.

We would like to say thank you Bob for your mentorship, laughs, training sessions and wealth of knowledge you have provided us over the years. We missed you this past summer at camp and we looking forward to seeing you again soon. Stay safe! Cheers, Kohl and Zak!


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Saskia Webber, 99 USWNT World Cup Champion and UCLA Women's Goalkeeper Coach, joins Kohl and Zak to talk about women's soccer and their track to the professional game. The group talks about Saskia's playing career and the path she took to the US Women's National Team. She expresses how much work needs to be put in to be successful at the highest level. Players must make sacrifices in their life to reach the top level of their sport. Saskia talks about what the professional women's soccer landscape was like when she played to what it is now with the NWSL. The conversation continues with what the USWNT was doing to stay in touch with the game when they were not in National Team camp. Kohl and Zak ask Saskia what it was like to play with the 99 group and to play under the late Tony DiCicco. Kohl and Zak discuss with Saskia about how women are able to make it into the coaching ranks of professional men's sports. They talk about how gender should not play a factor when it comes to coaching a sport as long as you have the knowledge to coach at that level. Saskia states that if you want to coach on that side of the game, go after it and don't let someone tell you that you can't make it happen. 


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Pamela Orner, mom of Kohl, and Gail Mahaman, mom of Zak, join the guys to talk about what it is like to me a mother of a soccer player and coach. Pamela and Gail talk about what it was like having a goalkeeper in their house and what their experiences were like watching them play. They talk about the stress and excitement that came with watching the game. Kohl and Zak discuss their experiences growing up with soccer and how they viewed the relationship they had with their moms. The moms talk about what the interaction was like in the car on rides home after games and the conversations that they had with Kohl and Zak. Pamela and Gail also give insight to other parents on how they would approach talking to their kids after sporting events and their role was when they were on the sideline of games. They express the importance of letting the kids play, referees ref, coaches coach and the parents to support their kids and team. The conversation switches to now what they see as Kohl and Zak are now coaching. Pamela and Gail talk about what that transition is like and how they see the game. They talk about how they now cheer for the team Kohl and Zak are coaching. They say the stress and excitement has not really gone away but is now for the full team that their sons are coaching.

(Side Bar) Without our moms we would not be the men we are today. They have helped provide us with the opportunities to be successful in our now coaching lives. They have been there to support and push us to the next level. We can not thank them enough for everything that they have done and continue to do for us. Thank you again for joining us on our Podcast. We love you!

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Nathan Thackeray, NC Courage Goalkeeper Coach and NCFC Director of Goalkeeping, and Jojo Comstock, Goalkeeper Coach at NCFC and NC Wesleyan, join Kohl to discuss the Training Methodology of NCFC and NC Courage. Nathan and Jojo bring their goalkeeping experiences to the podcast to break down how they train their goalkeepers and the approach they take to make them successful. Nathan helps to break down the different aspects of goalkeeping and what he finds most important working with goalkeepers. The group discusses the differences in working with older goalkeepers compared to young goalkeepers just starting out. The group also talks about how important it is to build a connection with the goalkeepers and how their training approach changes when you build a connection with the player. The connection that is built can help a goalkeeper grow so much more. Nathan and Jojo talk about how their goalkeepers show up to training and what is expected of them in each session.  There is a set of expectations that are placed upon these goalkeepers to uphold to help their growth. 


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The Girls, Olivia Kruger and Stephanie Stallings, join Kohl and Zak to talk about what it is like to be dating/married to a goalkeeper and coach. They describe their experiences during their playing careers and how they reacted during certain game situations. They give some of their favorite stories of watching Kohl and Zak coach and talk about what it’s like to now sit on the sideline. The group discusses what their daily lives are like and what conversations go on behind the scenes. The Girls also discuss how they became a sounding board, at times, for when Kohl and Zak need to talk about things going on with their teams.


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Ryan Lutke (Correct Exercise Specialist) joins Kohl and Zak to discuss the importance of maintaining healthy habits as an athlete. The group talks about their experiences with college soccer and what their strength and conditioning looked like at their universities. Ryan helps to go into depth about the importance of getting in the weight room and how it can help the overall performance of an athlete. He goes on to talk about what coaches can be doing during their practices to help get the most out of their athletes during the season. The group discusses why it is important to include rest days during a season and how to go about determining which players are going to need more rest between games. Ryan helps to describe what healthy movement patterns look like and how they can be beneficial beyond the field of play. He urges current athletes to get in the weight room and start moving weight around. It will not only make the athlete stronger but it will make them feel more confident about themselves. Ryan talks about the difference between bulking up and putting on good way to maintain the same level of agility that a player already has. The group rounds out the episode talking about how the body moves and how we can be efficient in our movements. Coaches and players alike can pick up lots of great information that are going to help them be successful everyday they step on the field. 


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Omar Zeenni, Owner of Pro GK Academy and Co-Host on Inside the 18, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss Creating Goalkeeping Content and Implementation of Sessions. Omar bring his knowledge of goalkeeping onto the podcast to talk about how he views goalkeeping and what he does to help make is goalkeepers successful. Omar talks about how he breaks down goalkeeping technique with video and use the videos that he puts on YouTube to look at his own coaching. The group discusses the importance of reflecting on sessions that are created and the continued development as coaches. Omar continues the conversation about when he gets into a session that is not working how he goes about making adjustments to make the sessions successful for the goalkeeper. The group also breaks down the technical aspect of the game and how coaches can take a step back and not over analyze what their goalkeepers are doing. Omar speaks of the importance to let our guard down to be willing to be open and honest about our approach as coaches. The success of our goalkeepers relies a lot on our ability as coaches to continue to learn and grow. The more information coaches can consume the better product they are going to put forward. 


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Alex Wimmer, former Ohio State Goalkeeper, talks with Kohl and Zak about his experiences through the game of soccer. He speaks about how his experiences through his playing days at Ohio State and his professional stint. Alex uses his knowledge from being a goalkeeper to his now working life. The group talks about how it is important to have diversity in the game and what you learn while playing with people from all over the world. Alex talks about his time playing professionally and what that experience was like. 


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What a great Season 2 was! Some great content and even better guests. If you have not listened to the season yet be sure to do so. You will not regret it. Be on the look out for Season 3, it is jam packed with great guests and continued goalkeeping content. We want to hear from the listeners for Season 3 about what they liked so far and what topics they are interested in learning about. Make sure to stay tuned in on your favorite podcast platform. 

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Jake Gillespie, Director of Goalkeeping at West Schuylkill FC, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss some Insight into a Goalkeepers Mind. Jake talks about how he went from being a goalkeeper at Shippensburg University one day and the next he is now coaching the goalkeepers. He explains how he had to switch his mentality to help the other goalkeepers be successful and put his loss of the sport aside. The group talks about the transition from playing to now being a coach and how that transition has happened. Jake brings some quality content into the goalkeepers mind and how he is helping young goalkeepers develop. He provides some wisdom beyond his years, that goalkeepers at any level should use in their development. Kohl, Zak and Jake talk about where goalkeeper development is going and things coaches can do to help their goalkeepers be successful.

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Cam Fertenbaugh, Women's Assistant/Goalkeeper Coach at Florida Atlantic University, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss Goalkeeper Self Talk. Cam pulls on some of his experiences as a goalkeeper and the many goalkeepers that he has worked with to provide insight into goalkeeper self talk. The group discusses how goalkeepers should approach difficult situations and how goalkeepers should change their mindset to a positive approach. Kohl, Zak and Cam talk about how having a short term memory can help the goalkeeper quickly move on to the next save. When the goalkeeper is fixated on one moment that can build up and lead to more mistakes happening. They talk about how the best goalkeepers move on from their mistakes and focus on the next task at hand. Live in the moments that you have and don't dwell on them!

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Steve Widdowson, Head Men's Soccer Coach at Millersville University, joins Kohl and Zak to discuss Integrating the Goalkeeper into Sessions. Steve talks about how he uses the goalkeepers in his sessions and makes them apart of team training. The group discusses the importance of individual goalkeeper training and how that then relates to team training. Kohl and Zak talk about their experiences at Millersville and how being integrated into sessions helped their overall game as a goalkeeper. Steve describes some of the ways that he has felt that integrating the goalkeeper has helped their overall success and winning two conference titles, 2018 & 2019. As well the group discusses how Steve has developed his core values to help keep his team on track.

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Ali Simmons, Assistant Men's Soccer Coach at Seton Hall and Co-Founder of The Academy Player, join Kohl and Zak to discuss the importance of Technical training. Ali brings his knowledge of technical training onto the podcast to talk about development at different ages. He discusses that the technical proficiency of a player can show their character. Ali, Kohl and Zak continue to dive deep into what technical training looks like and how players can continue to make themselves better everyday. They continue the conversation about the importance of a player developing position specific technical skills to help them be successful at that position. Ali talks about how the approach to breaking down technical attributes has changed from the time that he was a player to now as a coach. He brings his insight to the podcast about how he breaks down the technical skills for players and helps them develop to their best possible self.

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Rob Berkowitz, Head Men's and Women's Soccer Coach at East Stroudsburg University, and Meagan DeWan, Assistant Men's and Women's Soccer Coach at East Stroudsburg University, join Kohl and Zak to discuss Leadership. They talk about what leadership looks like and how players can use it to help the team be successful. Rob and Meagan talk about how they have groomed players to become leaders and the ones that were natural leaders. The group discusses some successes and failures within leadership and how things were corrected if there was failure. Kohl and Zak lead the conversation towards what leadership looks like from a coaching perspective and what we should be doing as coaches to help our players have success on and off the field.

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Niko Roros, Former Goalkeeper at Point Park University, and Mark Sappington, Assistant Women's Soccer Coat at Campbell University, talk with Kohl and Zak about Protecting the Defensive Third. They discuss what they have done in their playing careers to help organize the defensive shape in front of them to see less shots. We ask them about what they are doing in the coaching world now to help their teams be successful in protecting the defensive third and seeing less shots.

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Mark Duffield, Head Men's Soccer Coach at Penn State New Kensington, comes back for another episode to discuss Crosses. Kohl and Zak talk with Mark about what things he is doing with the goalkeepers at his club and the new curriculum they are developing to create a concrete pathway for the players to follow to get to the professional level. We talk about what ages crossing should be implemented and the types of training sessions that should be done at each level to help goalkeepers be successful.

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Rob Fulton, Head Women's Soccer Coach at Shippensburg University, Matt Snyder, Head Men's Coach at Ringgold High School, and Larry Fingers, Head Men's Coach at Canon-McMillian High School, join us to discuss what it means to be a good teammate. The each describe some of their experiences through playing and coaching. They also break down what their culture looks like with their teams and the ways that they demonstrate to their players what a good teammate looks like.

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Doug Cardosi joins us to discuss the World of Goalkeeping. He gives some great insight into ideas that goalkeepers can use to improve their game as well as things coaches can do to help improve their goalkeepers. We have some great conversations about goalkeeping and how it is constantly evolving and how we can keep an open mind.

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Matt Harder and Garrett Watson, former goalkeepers at Shippensburg University, discus what their experiences were like at the college level. They talk about how they developed as a goalkeeper during their time at Shippensburg. They describe their success and areas of improvement; they share the importance of learning your game. We talk about some of their favorite goalkeeping sessions and how they used them throughout their career.

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John Amorim, Director of Goalkeeping at FSA FC, joins is to discuss the Importance of GK Development at the Youth Level. We discuss what young players can do to develop themselves and what their coaches can do to help them improve. These youth level goalkeepers are at an age that the can soak things up like a sponge and help their development.

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Amy Hough, Head Women's Soccer Coach at Elizabethtown College, discusses Dead Ball Situations and how she looks to approach them. She talks about her experiences as a goalkeeper and now a coach. Amy gives advice to goalkeepers on how to get better at these situations and somethings that they could work on. We discuss different scenarios and how we might approach them in a game.

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Todd Hoffard, Goalkeeper Coach/Director of Goalkeeping at Real Salt Lake, and Zac MacMath, Goalkeeper at Real Salt Lake, join us to break down the importance of distribution. We discuss different types of distribution and the times when you might use a particular type. They give insight into some key steps to becoming more successful and about adding skills to your tool box.

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Brad Benzing and Phil Saunders, Goalkeepers for Christos FC, join us to discuss how to Control the Space Behind the Back 4. They describe how to read the game to know different situations and strategies to be successful in making sure the space behind the back four is protected.

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Kohl and Zak wrap up the first season of the Set Position. We talk about the guests that we have had on our podcast over the last 14 episodes. We set up the second season with our new guests and topics that we will be discussing. Thank you for listening to the first season of the Set Position.

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Micah Collins, Youth Program Manager at Philadelphia Union, joins us to discuss the importance of Goalkeeping Positioning. We talk about how important positioning is and the difference it can make in a goalkeepers game. Micah breaks down what a goalkeepers positioning should look like in several different scenarios.

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For any goalkeeper Strength and Conditioning is important to their growth. We bring two of the best on to help discuss the importance of Strength and Conditioning. Jesse Goleman, Goleline Podcast, and Rob Day, Head Strength and Conditioning Coach at Robert Morris, discuss how they look at Strength and Conditioning and break down some important things athletes should do to keep themselves in peak shape.

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We bring on two goalkeepers with the USL side ,Charleston Battery, to talk about professional goalkeeping and how they got to Charleston. Darian McCauley, 1st season with Charleston, and Phil Breno, 2nd season with Charleston, talk about their experiences at the college level and their path to the USL. They break down some of their training routines and what they do to keep themselves sharp.

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We continue our conversation about Building Culture at the College Level. Phil Wilson, Head Men's Soccer Coach at Averett University, Rob Dallas, Head Men's Soccer Coach at Cabrini College, and Jen Simonetti, Head Women's Soccer Coach at Case Western Reserve University help to break down the importance of building a culture and how it can help with the success of a program. They also dive into their successes and failures within building a culture and how they were able to keep things on track.

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Mike Malone, Assistant at Broadneck High School, and Max Shinsky, Club Coach for SCS, come on to talk about Building a Culture at the Club and High School level. They bring some great expertise from their respective coaching experiences to give insight into their successes at their levels. We talk about managing the team and what keeps culture on course. We dive into what it takes to keep the culture together during difficult times. 

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We talk about what it takes to score goals from a field players perspective. What they are looking for in a goalkeeper and how they are able to find the back of the net? Dara Demich, Head Girl's Coach at Brunswick High School, Conor Proctor, Head Women's Coach at Hood College, and Mamadou Kansaye, Assistant Men's Coach at Loyola University; help to explain their approach to scoring goals. They even give up some tips and tricks that they find effective in front of goal. 

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Quite the episode with Pat McGinnis, former Assistant Coach at Ohio Dominican, and Erik Burstein, Head Women's Coach at Kutztown University., These two bring some great personality to the podcast and help us discuss the importance of finding your identity as a coach and player. We share stories about our successes and failures. They talk about the importance of a goalkeepers identity within the team.

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On this episode we bring back Mark Sappington, Assistant Women's Soccer Coach at Campbell University, and a new guest Darian McCauley, Goalkeeper for Charleston Battery, to discuss Shot Stopping. We talk about being on your ball line and positioning in these situations. Our guests help us break down the mentality that a goalkeeper should have in these shot stopping situations.

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This is the second part to our Recruiting the Position topic. Mark Sappington, Assistant Women's Coach at Campbell University, joins us to go in depth on getting seen to play at the next level. We break down the differences between NCAA D1, D2, and D3.

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Part 1 of a 2 part series about Recruiting the Position. We break down what is important for goalkeepers to know when being recruited. Travis Morris, Ohio State University Men's Soccer Assistant, joins us to break down how coaches look to recruit goalkeepers and some of the attributes needed for the next level.

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On this episode of the Set Position we speak with Erik Eisenhunt, GK Icon Pittsburgh, and Mark Duffield, Penn State New Kensington Head Men's Coach, about the importance of communication as a goalkeeper and coach. What does your communication say about you as a goalkeeper and how does it affect the team (coaches included)? How does our communication to our players as a coach affect a players actions?

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We look to break down the fundamentals of goalkeeping and their importance in the current game. What we should be looking to do as coaches to help our players improve their game from the base up. Ron Santos, owner of United GK Academy, joins us as we dive into the topic.

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Goalkeeper coach versus the goalkeeper trainer. We bring on a special guest Jim Mustard, Stevenson University Men's Soccer Assistant, to break down the difference between the two. When would either be used and what is the importance of the goalkeeper coach and goalkeeper trainer at different levels of the game. There is great insight for those coaches or trainers looking at these tracks.

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Introduction to the podcast. We speak about why to become a goalkeeper and the importance of a goalkeeper on the field. We also set up the next episode with our special guest. Be sure to tune in!