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Jason Hardy, John Pattison, and Tim Wasem

A podcast about the life of work of Wendell Berry: the Kentucky farmer, poet, novelist, essayist, and activist.

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In this episode of The Membership, David and John discuss a book that is an unusual in the Port William series -- it's about a mouse, and is sometimes classified as a children's book -- but still feels right at home. That book? Whitefoot: A Story from the Center from the World, by Wendell Berry. We talk about the experience of compressing the imagination to the size of a mouse, where this book sits among Berry's other works, and why the realization that one lives at the center of the world is "the world's profoundest thought." And much more.

**SHOW NOTES AND LINKS** * "Whitefoot" in *Orion Magazine*
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  • "Beyond Words: What Animals Think and Feel," by Carl Safina
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  • "Another Day: Sabbath Poems, 2013-2023," by Wendell Berry

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In his poem “Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front,” Wendell Berry calls the reader to “Practice resurrection.” In today’s episode, we discuss one of Berry’s Sabbath poems. It has a Christmas theme that could be summarized this way: “Practice incarnation.”

**SHOW NOTES AND LINKS*** Sabbath Poem 1987, No. VI - “Remembering that it happened once…”
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In this episode, we interview singer-songwriter Matt Wheeler about his new album, A Hard History of Love. That album is inspired by five short stories in Berry’s story collection, That Distant Land. We talk about the process of writing songs inspired by great literature, about some of our favorite Port William characters, and what “membership” looks like in Matt’s life.

UPDATE: The Kickstarter for Matt’s album release is now fully funded. All backers will now receive a print of Ned Bustard’s cover art for the album. The Kickstarter ends on August 25 at 7:15 a.m. Eastern.

Kickstarter for A Hard History of Love: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hardhistory/a-hard-history-of-love-by-matt-wheeler

**SHOW NOTES AND LINKS*** Kickstarter for Matt Wheeler’s Port William-inspired album A Hard History of Love
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The Membership Podcast returns! We catch you up on the last three years, introduce a new co-host, and preview some of the books we’ll be reading in Season 3. Our next episode is coming in just a couple days, so be on the lookout!

**SHOW NOTES AND LINKS*** Kickstarter for Matt Wheeler’s Port William-inspired album *A Hard History of Love*
  • “Returning,” by Wendell Berry (Bookshop.org | Amazon | The Berry Center Bookstore)
  • “Eternal Beings Living in Time: On Wendell Berry’s Jayber Crow” (John’s essay from Besides the Bible)
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Author’s Note: Dave and I reference this short essay in the most recent episode of the podcast. I wrote it for my 2010 book, Besides the Bible: 100 Books that Have, Should, or Will Create Christian Culture. That book was co-authored with my friends Jordan Green and Dan Gibson. The three of us wrote seventy essays on the books we thought every Christian should read. Then we asked thirty of our favorite writers, artists, teachers, pastors, and musicians to do the same. This essay was the one I was most excited to write…which means that it was the essay I wrote last. By then I was exhausted, procrastinating, and looking forward to whole thing just being done. I would write the essay differently today (and hopefully better). But I’m even more convinced now than I was then of why Jayber Crow deserved to be on that list.


I will have to share the fate of this place.
Whatever happens to Port William happens to me.

As a novelist, essayist, poet, and farmer, Wendell Berry has plowed the same plot of Kentucky hillside for nearly fifty years. His focus across all literary forms is healthy community built on fidelity to neighbor, creation, and creator.

The principles Berry argues for in his essays with the rigorous logic of a legal brief are tenderly brought to life in his novels and short stories, which are all set in and around the fictional village of Port William, Kentucky. The title character in Jayber Crow is not native to Port William. Jayber’s parents died when he was only three. Aging relatives in Squires Landing, a few miles from Port William, take him in, but several years later they die too. “I was a little past ten years old,” he says, “and I was the survivor already of two stories completely ended.” He is sent to an orphanage in central Kentucky, and doesn’t return to the area until he drops out of college and goes looking for “a loved life to live.”

When Jayber arrives in Port William, the town needs a barber, a job he happens to know how to do. He spends the next fifty years cutting hair, gradually being drawn into the life of the community. He falls in love with a girl who marries a man unworthy of her, and for decades he loves her from afar. Jayber performs several essential services for Port William. Besides cutting hair, Jayber’s barbershop becomes a meeting place. Whether they need a trim or not, men are always stopping by to share the latest news, catch up, or just watch life happen on the street outside the shop window. The old men tell him stories, and Jayber becomes a guardian of the town’s communal memories.

Berry repeatedly describes the people of Port William as a “membership,” an image derived from Paul’s letters to the Ephesians and Corinthians. Burley Coulter, a recurring character in Berry’s fiction, says in one short story, “The way we are, we are members of each other. All of us. Everything. The difference ain’t in who is a member and who is not, but in who knows it and who don’t.” Jayber becomes a part of this membership, and he sees in it a reflection of the gathered Church:

It was a community always disappointed in itself, disappointing its members, always trying to contain its divisions and gentle its meanness, always failing and yet always preserving a sort of will toward goodwill…And yet I saw them all as somehow perfected, beyond time, by one another’s love, compassion, and forgiveness, as it is said we may be perfected by grace.

And so there we all were on a little wave of time lifting up to eternity, and none of us ever in time would know what to make of it. How could we? It is a mystery, for we are eternal beings living in time.

The poem, novel, essay, and small farm were all pronounced dead by the experts long ago, but Berry’s voice is more vital than ever. The values Berry has been advocating for years – especially localism and settledness – are gaining broader popularity, thanks in part to mainstream writers like Michael Pollan and Bill McKibben who look to Berry as a mentor. (“To feel at home in a place, you have to have some prospect of staying there,” Jayber says.) It is a quiet movement, manifesting itself in the growing presence of farmers’ markets in communities large and small, urban and guerilla gardens, in the lives of people moving back to the country to work the land, and in the lives of people who apply the standards of health and good use to their work as teachers, lawyers, homemakers, and barbers. It is a return to story and to belonging, and for five decades the voice crying out in the wilderness has been that of Wendell Berry.

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In this episode, John and Tim discuss Nathan Coulter, Wendell Berry’s debut novel.

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    • Nathan Coulter: A Novel, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon)
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    • Telling the Stories Right: Wendell Berry’s Imagination of Port William, edited by Jack R. Baker and Jeffrey Bilbro (IndieBound | Amazon)
    • The Art of Loading Brush: New Agrarian Writings, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon)
    • “Song of Myself,” by Walt Whitman
    • “The Peace of Wild Things,” by Wendell Berry
    • “A Vision,” by Wendell Berry
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In this episode, Jason, John and Tim discuss Farming: A Hand Book, Wendell Berry’s 1970 poetry collection.

SHOW NOTES AND LINKS Farming: A Hand Book, by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon) * New Collected Poems by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * A River of Words: The Story of William Carlos Williams, by Jen Bryant and Melissa Sweet (IndieBound | Amazon) * The Hundred-Year Barn*, by Patricia MacLachlan and Kenard Pak (IndieBound | Amazon) * The Berry Center Bookstore * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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In the final episode of season one, Jason, John, and Tim reflect and look to the future of The Membership.

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Jason, John, and Tim are joined by Dr. Tim Ross, minister at Hopwood Memorial Christian Church at Milligan College. They discuss Wendell Berry’s short story, “Watch with Me.”

SHOW NOTES AND LINKS “Watch with Me,” from That Distant Land, by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry: Port William Novels & Stories: The Civil War to World War II, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Library of America) * Watch With Me: and Six Other Stories of the Yet-Remembered Ptolemy Proudfoot and His Wife, Miss Minnie, Née Quinch, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Essay: “Watch with Me: Wendell Berry and Sitting with the Least of These,” by Timothy W. Ross, in From Each Brave Eye: Reflections on the Arts, Ministry, and Holy Imagination* (Amazon) * Hopwood Memorial Christian Church * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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Jason and Tim interview Laura Dunn, the Producer, Director, and Editor of the 2016 documentary film Look & See: A Portrait of Wendell Berry.

SHOW NOTES & LINKS Look & See: A Portrait of Wendell Berry * Two Birds Film * This Day: Collected & New Sabbath Poems* (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Bookstore at The Berry Center * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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SHOW NOTES AND LINKS New Collected Poems* by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Round of a Country Year * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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In this episode, we talk about the first half of Wendell Berry's Openings.

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss Berry's 1968 poetry collection, "Findings."

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss the short story “Pray Without Ceasing.”

SHOW NOTES & LINKS “Pray Without Ceasing” from That Distant Land, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry: Port William Novels & Stories: The Civil War to World War II* (IndieBound | Amazon | Library of America) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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Jason Hardy and John Pattison interview Charlie Peacock, the 4x Grammy Award-winning, multi-format jazz and pop recording artist, composer, and record producer.

SHOW NOTES & LINKS* CharliePeacock.com * The Writer and the Husband Blog (Coming Soon) * Art House America * Sarah Masen * Charlie Peacock Online

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss two short stories: “Fly Away, Breath” and “The Hurt Man.”

SHOW NOTES & LINKS “Fly Away, Breath” from A Place in Time, by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * “A Consent” from That Distant Land, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry: Port William Novels & Stories: The Civil War to World War II (IndieBound | Amazon | Library of America) * “A Consent” is also available in the stand-alone collection, Watch With Me: and Six Other Stories of the Yet-Remembered Ptolemy Proudfoot and His Wife, Miss Minnie, Née Quinch* (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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John visits The Berry Center in Henry County, Kentucky.

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss Wendell Berry's earliest book-length collection of poems, The Broken Ground.

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss “The Long-Legged House” and “A Native Hill,” essays from Wendell Berry’s 1969 collection, The Long-Legged House.

SHOW NOTES & LINKS The Long-Legged House* by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss “The Rise” and “The Long-Legged House,” essays from Wendell Berry’s 1969 collection, The Long-Legged House.

SHOW NOTES & LINKS The Long-Legged House* by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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Jason, John, and Tim discuss the only two Port William short stories set in the nineteenth-century: “The Girl in the Window” (1864) and “The Hurt Man” (1888).

SHOW NOTES & LINKS “The Girl in the Window” from A Place in Time, by Wendell Berry(IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * “The Hurt Man,” from That Distant Land, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry: Port William Novels & Stories: The Civil War to World War II* (IndieBound | Amazon | Library of America) * Wendell Berry Catalogue from Counterpoint Press (PDF) * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * The Membership Podcast Online

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We had the honor of recording Episode 0 in front of a live audience at the Hutchmoot Conference in Nashville, TN. In this episode, we go over plans for the future of this podcast and interview singer/songwriter Allen Levi.

Show Notes & Links Allen Levi * Hutchmoot * The Rabbit Room Podcast Network * Erasable Podcast * Slow Church * Poem: “Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front” * The Last Sweet Mile: A Memoir, by Allen Levi * “The Wild Birds,” from That Distant Land, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Standing by Words, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Jayber Crow, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * New Collected Poems, by Wendell Berry (IndieBound | Amazon | Counterpoint) * Wendell Berry: Port William Novels & Stories: The Civil War to World War II* (IndieBound | Amazon | Library of America) * Landmark Booksellers (Franklin, Tennessee) * Photo Credit: Gina Hurry

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The Membership is a new podcast inspired by the life and work of Wendell Berry.

We will officially launch in November 2018, with a special Episode 0 debuting before that. Episode 0 was recorded live at The Hutchmoot gathering in Nashville in October 2018.

To be notified of the launch, and to keep track of future episodes and special content, we encourage you to subscribe to updates through The Membership Letters.