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In episode 124, we sit down with Dr. Phoenix Van Wagoner, Assistant Professor of Management at California State University, Fullerton, to discuss an fun workplace resource for mental health: curiosity.
Mental health challenges such as anxiety and depression affect millions of employees, yet organizations often struggle to understand what helps people manage these experiences during the workday. This study found that employees who experienced greater curiosity and interest while performing their work reported lower symptoms of anxiety and depression. Even more encouraging, these benefits were strongest for employees who were already most likely to struggle with anxiety and depression.
Find the paper here: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2027-87739-001
Find Dr. Van Wagoner here: https://weldresearchlab.com/phoenixvanwagoner
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In episode 123, we explore a fascinating new study on physical activity, unhealthy snacking, and workplace health habits. We chat about a paper published by Völker, Koch, and Sonnentag in the Journal of Occupational Health Psychology. This paper presents a field experiment that tested whether a simple goal-setting intervention could help employees become more active and make healthier choices during the workday. Participants focused on increasing physical activity, reducing unhealthy workplace snacking, or both over a two-week period.
One of the most important takeaways from this conversation:
The episode also offers practical tips for managers and organizations, including creating opportunities for movement during the workday, supporting employee health goals, and designing work environments that make healthy choices easier rather than harder.
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Find the paper here: https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/ocp0000428
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In episode 122 of Healthy Work, we sit down with Dr. Liza Barnes, Assistant Professor of Management at Drexel University, to discuss a critical but often overlooked workplace issue: medical leaves of absence.
When employees face a serious health challenge, whether it’s cancer treatment, a mental health crisis, an autoimmune disease flare-up, or a major injury, medical leave should provide the time and security needed to recover. Yet, many employees find themselves navigating a confusing system of policies, financial uncertainty, and workplace pressure while trying to heal. Dr. Barnes shares insights from interviews with employees who took medical leave and HR professionals responsible for managing those leaves. The findings reveal that having a leave policy is not enough—the way leave is implemented can dramatically affect employee well-being and recovery.
You can find Dr. Barnes here: https://www.lebow.drexel.edu/people/liza-barnes-phd
You can find her paper here: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2027-54690-001
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In Episode 121, we turn our focus to a critical issue in healthcare: patient aggression and its impact on worker well‑being.
We’re joined by Dr. Lisa Kath, Associate Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University, to discuss new research on how healthcare workers are affected not just by direct exposure to aggressive patient behavior, but also by witnessing and hearing about it.
Drawing on data from pediatric healthcare settings, this conversation highlights how repeated exposure to patient aggression shapes stress, burnout, and turnover—and why the effects extend beyond the individual directly involved.
We discuss:
Why frequency of exposure, not just extreme incidents, drives psychological harm
The surprising impact of witnessing or hearing about aggression, and how it increases stress and turnover intentions
Why nurses face higher risk due to constant bedside exposure
How workplace context (e.g., ER and behavioral health units) shapes exposure levels
What these experiences signal about organizational support and safety culture
Practical solutions, including peer support programs and post‑incident recovery strategies
You can find Dr. Kath here: https://psychology.sdsu.edu/people/lisa-kath/
You can read the paper here: https://www.pediatricnursing.org/article/S0882-5963(26)00173-9/fulltext
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In Episode 120, we explore a topic that is incredibly common, but rarely talked about at work: reproductive loss.
We’re joined by Dr. Katrina Brownell, Assistant Professor of Management at Virginia Tech, who uses an autoethnographic approach to examine her own experiences with pregnancy loss and what happens when organizations lack the language, policies, and support to acknowledge it.
Reproductive loss—including miscarriage, stillbirth, and other forms of pregnancy loss—affects a significant number of people. Yet in many workplaces, silence is the default response. We talk about how silence at work doesn’t mean nothing is happening. It often means employees are carrying more than we can see.
This episode challenges organizations to rethink how they approach grief, privacy, and support, and whether current workplace norms are truly serving employees in their most difficult moments.
You can find Dr. Brownell here: https://management.pamplin.vt.edu/faculty/directory/brownell-katrina.html
You can find her paper here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/gwao.70158
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In episode 119 , we dig into a question many of us have experienced firsthand: Why does a stressful day at work make us (and our partners!) devour cookies, takeout, or comfort food.
We’re joined by Dr. Wiston Rodriguez, Assistant Professor of Psychology at San Diego State University, to explore new research on how workplace stressors, specifically illegitimate tasks, shape employees’ eating behaviors after work.
Illegitimate tasks are assignments that fall outside your role or feel demeaning (like being asked to do work that “isn’t your job”). Dr. Rodriguez’s research shows these experiences don’t just impact your mood—they can trigger negative emotions that lead to unhealthy eating behaviors, and those effects don’t stop with you.
We discuss:
What illegitimate tasks are and why they feel so stressful
How workplace stress drives emotional eating and poor food choices
The surprising finding that these eating behaviors spill over to partners and families
How broader systems—like income, access to food, and work conditions—shape health outcomes
Why workplace stress doesn’t just affect performance—it affects physical health and long‑term well‑being
Practical steps managers and organizations can take to reduce harm, from clear communication to supportive workplace culture
This episode highlights how everyday workplace decisions—like how tasks are assigned—can ripple outward into employees’ homes, relationships, and health behaviors.
You can find Dr. Rodriguez here (https://psychology.sdsu.edu/people/wiston-rodriguez/).
You can find the paper here (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-025-00247-w).
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We are excited to introduce the Healthy Work Graduate Student Research Contest. If you are currently a graduate student (Masters or PhD) engaged in research on the intersection of employment/work and health/wellbeing, please consider submitting your research for consideration for this contest.Winners will be invited onto the podcast to share their research, and will receive a certificate and small gift (a book).The research need not be published, nor does it need to be your thesis or dissertation. But, it does need to be primarily the work of the graduate student. If an advisor or other authors are included in the research, they must approve of your submission to this contest. Applications are due August 16, 2026. Decisions will be made in the following month with episodes to air by January 1, 2027.https://colostate.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_cUPoJWM55Mfduom
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In episode 118, we’re joined by Dr. David Arena to explore how people decide whether, when, and how to reveal important parts of their identity at work, especially in environments that feel unwelcoming or hostile.
Much of the research on workplace identity assumes disclosure is a simple yes‑or‑no choice. But Dr. Arena’s work shows that identity management is far more nuanced. Through two studies of lesbian, gay, and bisexual employees in the U.S. and U.K., this research highlights identity signaling: subtle, strategic behaviors people use to “test the waters” before deciding whether to stand out or blend in.
We get a little personal and discuss:
What identity signaling looks like in everyday workplace interactions
How employees scan their environment for cues about safety and belonging
Why hostile work environments and everyday incivility push people to hide who they are
The emotional exhaustion that comes from blending in and suppressing identity
Why some employees respond to hostility by doing the opposite—standing out more defiantly
What coworkers, managers, and leaders can do to create climates where authenticity is truly optional, not risky
Find Dr. Arena here: https://www.uta.edu/academics/faculty/profile?user=david.arena
This is the paper we discussed: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/job.70073
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In episode 117, we explore a question many working parents and professionals experience daily: Why do some demanding workdays leave us energized and fulfilled at home, while others leave us completely drained?
Drawing on a recent daily diary study published by Junker and colleagues in Work & Stress, we unpack new research on workload, work‑related rumination, boundary control, and work‑to‑home spillover. The findings help explain why workload has long shown mixed and confusing effects in the research: sometimes it’s harmful, and sometimes it actually enhances life outside of work.
We discuss:
Why high workload isn’t always bad—and when it can lead to positive work‑to‑home enrichment
The critical difference between work‑related rumination (stressful, tense replaying) and problem‑solving pondering (energizing, creative thinking)
How these two mental processes shape whether work stress helps or hurts family life
Why boundary control matters, and why it helps amplify positive spillover but doesn’t eliminate negative rumination
Practical implications for managers: how framing, autonomy, and prioritization can reduce harm when workloads increase
What individuals can do on high‑demand days to protect their energy and relationships at home
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In episode 116, we’re joined by Dr. Beth Stelson, Assistant Professor at Washington University in St. Louis, to unpack an often invisible, but consequential, workplace hazard: vicarious trauma.
Vicarious trauma occurs when workers are repeatedly exposed to other people’s traumatic experiences, leading to psychological and physiological stress responses—even when they haven’t experienced the trauma firsthand. This is especially common among healthcare workers, social workers, substance use disorder professionals, and other helping professions, yet it’s rarely treated as a core occupational health issue.
We explore:
What vicarious trauma is and how it differs from burnout and PTSD
Why focusing only on symptoms misses the root of the problem
How repeated exposure to trauma at work affects mental health, physical health, job satisfaction, and turnover
New evidence linking vicarious trauma to serious physical health outcomes
The Vicarious Occupational Trauma Exposure (VOTE) Index, a new tool designed to measure where and how trauma exposure happens in the workplace
Why prevention requires organizational and system‑level interventions, not just individual self‑care
This conversation reframes vicarious trauma as a workplace hazard, similar to chemical exposure or noise exposure, and makes a compelling case for redesigning work, increasing organizational responsibility, and protecting the health of the workers our communities depend on most.
If you work in healthcare, social services, public health, or any trauma‑exposed role, or if you manage, study, or support people who do, this episode offers a powerful, research‑driven look at why vicarious trauma matters and what can actually be done about it.
You can find Dr. Stelson here: https://publichealth.washu.edu/faculty/elisabeth-stelson/
You can find the VOTE here: https://psycnet.apa.org/psycarticles/2027-28298-001.pdf
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In episode 115, we explore a workplace trend that refuses to die despite years of employee complaints and growing research evidence: open office layouts. Drawing on a newly published study by Michael Rosander and Morten Nielsen in Occupational Health Science, we break down what different types of office setups mean for bullying experiences, job satisfaction, and turnover intentions.
Using a large, representative dataset of Swedish office workers, the researchers compare private offices, small shared rooms, traditional open offices, and activity‑based workspaces. Their findings are striking: employees in traditional open office environments are 54% more likely to experience workplace bullying than those in private offices. And while all office types have some level of risk, the most unstructured, desk‑sharing open plans show the highest rates of negative interpersonal experiences, lower job satisfaction, and greater intentions to leave.
You can find the original article here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-025-00246-x
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In episode 114, we sit down with Dr. Verena Haun, Professor of Work and Organizational Psychology at the University of Würzburg, to explore a question many of us feel every Friday afternoon: Why is it sometimes easy to switch off from work—and other times almost impossible?
Drawing on a multi‑week study of more than 150 employees, Dr. Haun’s research uncovers three distinct patterns of psychological detachment across weekends:
High and increasing detachment, where people start off disengaged and unwind even more.
Moderate but improving detachment, where people slowly let go of work and ultimately feel most energized by Monday.
Consistently low detachment, where work lingers mentally all weekend long.
We discuss why some people struggle to mentally switch off, how unfinished tasks and unresolved problems make detachment more difficult, and why problem‑solving conversations on Friday nights—not supplemental work—predict healthier recovery patterns.
You can find Dr. Haun here (https://www.psychologie.uni-wuerzburg.de/ao/team/prof-dr-verena-c-haun/)
You can find the paper published in the Journal of Occupational Health Psychology here (https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2026-99066-001.html)
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In episode 113, we sit down with occupational health researcher Dr. Annabelle Neall, Senior Lecturer in Mental Health and Wellbeing and Director of the Flinders Workplace Wellbeing Lab in Australia, to explore a critical and often misunderstood question: Why do so few workers report sexual harassment, even when it’s widespread and well‑recognized?
Drawing on surveys of Australian workers and in‑depth interviews with victims, witnesses, and subject‑matter experts, Dr. Neall’s research uncovers the three internal hurdles people navigate before deciding whether to report:
Does this “count” as sexual harassment?
Is it worth the personal and professional risk?
Will reporting actually change anything?
We discuss how formal reporting systems often unintentionally discourage victims, how fear of retaliation shapes silence, and why many workers lose trust in HR‑driven processes. This conversation offers a rare, deeply human look at the barriers workers face and how we can build safer, more supportive workplaces.
You can find Dr. Neall here: https://www.flindersworkplacewellbeinglab.com/team
You can find the paper we discuss here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02678373.2025.2607500
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In episode 112 we sit down with renowned management scholar Dr. Yehuda Baruch to unpack one of today’s biggest questions: Are careers truly more dynamic now than in the past? Drawing on a decade of population‑level labor market data from Bulgaria, Dr. Baruch reveals surprising insights about job mobility, career transitions, wage growth, multinational vs. local employers, and the evolving nature of “career stability.”
If you want actionable insights on navigating modern careers this conversation offers a rare data‑driven look at the future of work.
You can find Dr. Baruch here (https://www.southampton.ac.uk/people/5xb698/professor-yehuda-baruch)
You can find his most recent book, “Managing Career & Employability” here (
https://bookshop.org/p/books/managing-careers-and-employability-yehuda-baruch/7cf2e77b4039d944?ean=9781529751840&next=t)
You can find the paper we discuss here: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jvb.2025.104180
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In Episode 111, we kick off 2026 with a powerful conversation featuring Drs. Julian Barling and Simon Rego, co-authors of The Cognitive Behavioral Therapy Workbook for Leaders. Together, they explore how evidence-based psychological strategies can help leaders manage stress, burnout, anxiety, and other mental health challenges that undermine leadership effectiveness.
Key insights include:
Why mental health isn’t just personal—it’s professional, and how leaders’ emotional states shape organizational culture.
Practical, science-backed tools from therapy to improve resilience and decision-making.
How leaders can use this workbook to build skills privately, cost-effectively, and sustainably.
Why focusing on leaders’ well-being is critical for team performance and psychological safety.
The surprising gap in research on leaders’ mental health—and what needs to change.
You can find Dr. Barling at https://julianbarling.com/
You can find Dr. Rego at https://www.simonrego.com/
You can purchase their book from the publisher here:
https://www.newharbinger.com/9781648484773/the-cognitive-behavioral-therapy-workbook-for-leaders/?srsltid=AfmBOorV2FnZrax04gQ-Q-3ToPAaNfiQycuNWq890eHfcb5CrdTq5bNe
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In Episode 110, we are joined by Dr. Gena Cox, IO psychologist, executive coach, and author of Leading Inclusion. We explore what it really takes to create workplaces where everyone thrives. Gina introduces her R-E-D-I framework (Respect, Equity, Diversity, Inclusion) and explains why respect must come first to build trust and meaningful inclusion.
You can find Dr. Cox on her website (https://genacox.com/) or LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/genacox/).
You can buy Leading Inclusion here (https://genacox.com/product/leading-inclusion-book/).
You can download 25 Ways and sign up for Dr. Cox’s email newsletter here (https://genacox.com/respectebo25ways/).
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In episode 109, we sit down with Drs. Ian Katz and Shelly Rauvola, co-editors of a groundbreaking special issue in Industrial and Organizational Psychology. Together, we explore how current public policy changes in the United States are reshaping the world of work, from employee well-being and marginalized worker experiences to the future of I-O psychology education and research.
Key takeaways include:
How policy changes impact HR practices, training, and organizational functioning
The chilling effect of political climates on academic freedom and research
Why behavioral scientists must engage in policy conversations
How I-O psychology can respond using existing theories and evidence-based practices
A call to action for researchers and practitioners to advocate for worker dignity and evidence-based decision-making
This episode is essential listening for anyone invested in the future of work, science advocacy, and the role of IO psychology in shaping policy.
Find the special issue here: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/industrial-and-organizational-psychology/issue/380836BA2B93123CE626AACDCB5DF7DA
Find Ian Katz here: https://csh.depaul.edu/faculty-staff/faculty-a-z/Pages/psychology/ian-katz.aspx
Find Shelly Rauvola here: https://csh.depaul.edu/faculty-staff/faculty-a-z/Pages/psychology/shelly-rauvola.aspx
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In episode 108, we chat with Justin Weinhardt to explore his recent research on ADHD in the workplace. Drawing from a multi-day study of employees with ADHD, they unpack how daily symptom fluctuations impact engagement—and how job crafting can serve as a powerful, science-backed strategy for managing attention and motivation at work.
Key insights include:
Why ADHD symptoms vary day-to-day and how that affects work performance
The surprising effectiveness of adding fun and variety to tasks
Why reducing workload isn’t always the best solution
How organizations can foster environments that support mental health disclosure
What all employees can learn from ADHD coping strategies
Whether you’re a manager, researcher, or someone navigating ADHD at work, this episode offers practical tools and a fresh perspective on neurodiversity and workplace well-being.
Check out the original paper here: https://link-springer-com.ezproxy2.library.colostate.edu/article/10.1007/s10869-025-10065-0
You can find Dr. Weinhardt here: https://profiles.ucalgary.ca/justin-weinhardt
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In episode 107 we unpack the global and domestic landscape of workplace safety regulation. Drawing from a recent paper by Maureen Dollard and Rachael Potter, we explore how psychosocial risks (e.g., job stress, job insecurity, and AI disruption) are increasingly recognized as legitimate safety concerns. The conversation dives into:
How Australia enforces psychosocial safety standards
Why OSHA’s limited scope and resources hinder worker protection in the U.S.
The role of unions and the NLRB in safeguarding employee well-being
How collective action and expanded definitions of safety can reshape the future of work
This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in occupational health psychology, labor policy, and the evolving definition of workplace safety.
Read the paper here (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-025-00236-z)
Find OSHA’s proposed regulation rollbacks, and leave public comments on them, here (https://www.osha.gov/deregulatory-rulemaking). Reminder, public comments are due November 1, 2025.
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In episode 106, we speak with Dr. Hana Johnson, Associate Professor at Washington State University, about her recent research on how disaster from pandemics to wildfires impact employees differently based on social class and identity. Learn how class salience intensifies feelings of devaluation, anxiety, and social withdrawal at work, and why organizations must rethink disaster response policies to support vulnerable workers. This episode explores the psychological toll of inequality, the role of identity in resilience, and what leaders can do to build more inclusive, disaster-ready workplaces.
Find Dr. Johnson here: https://business.wsu.edu/directory/hana.johnson/
Find the paper here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10869-025-10064-1
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In this episode 105 we chat with Drs. Katina Sawyer and Patricia Grabarek, co-authors of Leading for Wellness, to unpack what it means to be a “generator” versus an “extinguisher” in leadership. We explore how person-centered planning, authentic leadership, and microcultures can foster thriving teams—even in toxic organizations. Learn how real-world interviews shaped their framework, and get actionable insights on how to “fire your work self,” respect boundaries, and lead with empathy. Whether you're a frontline manager or a C-suite exec, this episode offers a roadmap to healthier, more human workplaces.
You can find Workr Beeing here: https://workrbeeing.com/about/, or on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/workrbeeing/
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In episode 104 we chat with Alyssa McGonagle, Associate Professor at UNC Charlotte and author of Chronic Health Conditions and Work: Proactive Strategies for Supporting Employees and Doing Well by Doing Good. We explore the intersection of chronic illness, disability, and employment. We cover key legal protections like the ADA, FMLA, and ACA, the challenges of disclosure and identity management, and the importance of inclusive organizational culture. Dr. McGonagle also introduces the vivid and relatable Spoon Theory and shares evidence-based interventions to make work better for everyone including people living with chronic health conditions. Whether you're an HR professional, manager, researcher, or someone living with a chronic condition, this episode offers actionable insights and compassionate strategies for creating healthier, more equitable workplaces.
You can find Dr. McGonagle here (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyssa-mcgonagle/) and here (https://orgscience.charlotte.edu/directory/alyssa-mcgonagle/).
You can order her book here (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/chronic-health-conditions-and-work-9780197660638?cc=us⟨=en&), using the code AUFLY30 for a discount.
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In episode 103 we chat with Drs. Andrea Bazzoli and Ian Hughes to explore their recent publication in the Journal of Business and Psychology. The conversation dives deep into how financial stress fluctuates over time, why small monetary changes—not just big windfalls—can significantly impact employee well-being, and how the nonlinear nature of these relationships challenge traditional assumptions in workplace psychology.
We discuss:
The surprising power of small financial fluctuations
Why lump-sum bonuses might not reduce stress as expected
How macroeconomic policies intersect with organizational behavior
Actionable strategies for managers to support financially stressed employees
Whether you're an I-O psychologist, HR leader, or just curious about the psychology of money at work, this episode offers data-driven insights and practical takeaways for improving employee well-being.
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In Episode 102 we chat with Drs. Denise Vesper and Michael Zickar about a recent special collaborative piece they published in Occupational Health Science. In this powerful episode we dive deep into the evolving role of labor unions in promoting worker health and safety across the globe.
Topics include:
The psychological impact of strikes and union activity
How unions address health and safety risks in high-hazard industries
The resurgence of organized labor in the U.S. (Starbucks, UAW, Volkswagen)
The intersection of IO psychology and labor movements
Policy gaps and the role of unions in climate change and mental health advocacy
Whether you're an IO psychologist, HR professional, union member, or just curious about the future of work, this episode offers rich insights into how organized labor is adapting to global challenges—and why researchers should pay attention.
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You can find the paper here: https://scholar.google.com/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&user=Z38glpIAAAAJ&sortby=pubdate&citation_for_view=Z38glpIAAAAJ:iH-uZ7U-co4C
You can find Dr. Vesper here: https://www.uni-saarland.de/lehrstuhl/koenig/personen/denise-vesper-msc.html
You can find Dr. Zickar here: https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/psychology/people/mzickar.html
Keywords: labor unions, occupational health, worker safety, IO psychology, strikes, union research, workplace well-being, global labor movements, climate change, mental health, industrial-organizational psychology, union advocacy
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In Episode 101 we chat with Mikaila Ortynsky , a PhD candidate at the University of Ottawa, to unpack her groundbreaking research on menstruation in the workplace. We explore how menstrual cycles impact task performance, emotional regulation, and organizational citizenship behaviors, and why most workplaces are still failing to provide even the most basic support. We challenges the default male workplace model and calls for inclusive, evidence-based change.
You can find her paper here: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2026-24197-002
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We made it to triple digits! In this celebratory episode, we reflect on how the field of occupational health psychology—and our own lives— have evolved over the past 100 episodes of Healthy Work—from burnout and sleep to leadership and labor policy.
From burnout and bullying to policy and precarity, we’ve covered a lot. We talk about the shift from individual-level interventions (remember when mindfulness was 🔥?) to systemic, policy-driven change. We also look ahead to the next 100 episodes: AI, women’s health, gig work, and the future of workplace regulation.
Plus, we celebrate with a Healthy Work trivia game—play along and see how well you know the pod.
Thanks for being part of this journey. Whether you’ve been here since Episode 1 or just joined us, we’re so glad you’re part of the Healthy Work community.
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In a special Episode 99, we have a live-recorded interview with the Winners of the 2024-2025 Best Paper Award from Occupational Health Science. Drs. Leslie Hammer, Jennifer Dimoff, Cynthia D. Mohr, & Shalene J. Allen won for their paper “A Framework for Protecting and Promoting Employee Mental Health through Supervisor Supportive Behaviors.” We chat about strategies managers can use to prevent and respond to employee mental health issues.
Read their paper here: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-023-00171-x
You can find them here:
Leslie Hammer: https://www.ohsu.edu/people/leslie-b-hammer-phd
Jennifer Dimoff: https://www.jenniferdimoff.com/
Cynthia Mohr: https://www.pdx.edu/profile/cynthia-mohr
Shalene Allen: https://www.k-state.edu/psych/about/people/allen/
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In episode 98, we are joined by Dr. Alicia Grandey, co-author of the new book Emotionally Charged: How to Lead in the New World of Work. Together, we explored the realities of emotions, emotional labor, burnout, and how leaders can cultivate emotional intelligence to thrive in today’s demanding workplace.
Dr. Grandey shared the core principles from her book, including:
Why emotional labor is essential in most modern jobs
How emotions are valuable sources of information, not distractions
The hidden costs of emotional suppression
We also got to peak behind the scenes to see what it was like writing such a powerful book with a close friend.
Whether you're a leader, employee, or anyone navigating emotional demands at work, this episode offers research-based strategies for sustainable well-being and authentic leadership.
You can buy Emotionally Charged here, and use the code “ASPROMP8” for 30% off!
You can find Dr. Grandey here, her lab here, and Dina Denham-Smith here.
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https://psych.la.psu.edu/people/aag6/
https://weld.la.psu.edu/
https://www.dinadsmith.com/
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In episode 97, I talk with Dr. Kimberly French about her recent study on how daily stressor pile-up impacts parents’ and adolescents’ health, sleep, and cortisol patterns. We discuss surprising findings from the Work, Family, and Health Network study — including that as stress piles up, sleep first gets shorter, but at extreme levels, both parents and teens actually start sleeping more. Dr. French explains how stress crosses over between parents and teens, what these patterns mean for family well-being, and how to think about stress pile-up in daily life.
French, K. A., Smith, C. E., Lee, S., & Chen, Z. (2025). Can allostatic load cross over? Short-term work and nonwork stressor pile-up on parent and adolescent diurnal cortisol, physical symptoms, and sleep. Journal of Applied Psychology. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.1037/apl0001284
https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2026-12317-001
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In Episode 96, we complete our EAOHP Spotlight Mini-Series, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Marijke Verbruggen. We talk about the benefits and challenges of flexible careers, job transitions, and work-life balance. Dr. Verbruggen shares insights on how career mobility affects well-being, the role of government support and employer openness, and how technology and remote work are reshaping our ability to disconnect and thrive.
You can find Dr. Verbruggen here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://eaohp.org/
https://www.kuleuven.be/wieiswie/en/person/00044343
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What happens when you step outside and truly take in your surroundings?
In Episode 95 we chat about a recent paper published by Hilbert et al (2025) in the Journal of Occupational Health Psychology exploring how savoring the beauty of nature can help us feel more relaxed, serene, and restored during the workday. We discuss what makes this research so exciting, and what managers (and all of us) can take away to create healthier, more human-centered work environments.
Hilbert, M., Finke, M., Küpper, K., Binnewies, C., Berkemeyer, L., & Maunz, L. A. (2025). Look how beautiful! The role of natural environments for employees’ recovery and affective well-being. Journal of Occupational Health Psychology, 30(1), 47–61. https://doi.org/10.1037/ocp0000393
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In Episode 94, we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Bram Fleuren. We talk all about sustainable employment and sustainable employability and what it means to help people have healthy, meaningful, and fulfilling employment for as long as they want.
You can find Dr. Fleuren here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://eaohp.org/
https://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/bpi-fleuren/education
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In Episode 93 are joined by Dr. Alex Jackson. We talk about his recent paper on barriers and facilitators to healthy choices at work. We talk about how the work environment can nudge you toward or away from healthier eating and exercise!
You can find Dr. Jackson here and the paper here.
https://cohre.mtsu.edu/staff_alexander-t-jackson/
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-025-00220-7
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In Episode 92, we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Maria Charalampous. We talk all about remote e-work and worker wellbeing, particularly for people with disabilities and neurodiversity.
You can find Dr. Charalampous here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://eaohp.org/
https://www.uol.ac.cy/en/team/maria-charalambous/
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In Episode 91 we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Mats Glambek. We talk all about bullying at work.
You can find Dr. Glambek here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://eaohp.org/
https://www.bi.edu/about-bi/employees/department-of-leadership-and-organizational-behaviour/mats-glambek/
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In Episode 90 are joined by Dr. Mallory McCord. We talk about her recent paper on biases people hold against introverts. We talk about how it really is an extravert’s world out there!
You can find Dr. McCord here and her paper here.
https://www.odu.edu/directory/mallory-mccord
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41542-024-00218-7
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In Episode 89 we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Kati Karhula. We talk about shift work and sleep and how important they are for our health and performance.
You can find Dr. Karhula here and you can find more about EAOHP here. You can also find the Finnish Institute of Occupational Health here as well as their recommendations for workload management here
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kati-Karhula-2
https://eaohp.org/
https://www.ttl.fi/en
https://www.ttl.fi/en/research/projects/workload-management-in-safety-critical-work-during-an-external-crisis
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In Episode 87, we’re joined by Dr. Victoria Mattingly. We chat about what DEI really is, and why companies and employees should still care about making a wide range of people feel included in the workplace (and how to do it!). We also get a sneak peak of Dr. V’s upcoming book.
You can find Dr. V here
You can order her previous book Inclusalytics here
and you can pre-order Dr. V’s upcoming allyship book here.
https://www.mattinglysolutions.com/
https://www.inclusalytics.com/
https://www.mattinglysolutions.com/allyship
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In Episode 86 we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Dr. Prisca Brosi. We talk about all things emotions in the workplace.
You can find Dr. Brosi here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://www.klu.org/faculty-research/faculty/resident-faculty/prisca-brosi
https://eaohp.org/
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In Episode 85, we’re joined by Professor David Yamada. We chat about his drafted legislation, the Workplace Bullying Accountability Act and why we need laws to protect workers from abusive workplace environments.
You can find Professor Yamada here as well as his Minding the Workplace Blog here.
You can find the Workplace Bullying Accountability Act national campaign page here
You can find the Workplace Bullying Institute here
https://www.suffolk.edu/academics/faculty/d/y/dyamada
https://workplacebullying.org/wbaa/
https://workplacebullying.org
https://newworkplace.wordpress.com
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In Episode 84 we continue our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by Domenico Sanseverino. We talk about the role of technology in the workplace and its impact on worker wellbeing.
You can find Dominico Sanseverino here and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Domenico-Sanseverino
https://eaohp.org/
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In Episode 83, we’re joined by Dr. Claire Smith. We chat about her recent paper on sleep profiles. Turns out, sleep is really important for short and long term wellbeing and many people aren’t getting enough high quality sleep.
You can find Dr. Smith here.
Smith, C. E., Lee, S., Allen, T. D., Wallace, M. L., Andel, R., Buxton, O. M., Patel, S. R., & Almeida, D. M. (2024). Designing work for healthy sleep: A multidimensional, latent transition approach to employee sleep health. Journal of Occupational Health Psychology, 29(6), 409–430. https://doi.org/10.1037/ocp0000386
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In Episode 82 we kick off our bonus mini-series: EAOHP Spotlight, sponsored by a small grant from the European Academy of Occupational Health Psychology. We are joined by the President of EAOHP, Dr. Stavroula Leka. We talk about EAOHP as an organization, OHP more broadly as a field, and the intersection of OHP research and public policy.
You can find Dr. Leka here, and you can find more about EAOHP here.
https://www.lancaster.ac.uk/lums/people/stavroula-leka
https://eaohp.org/
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In Episode 81 we chat about a recent paper published by Chen et al (2025) ! We discuss people’s trajectories in money and time at work over time. They find that at the top, the tradeoff for more money with more work hours might not be worth it!
Chen, J. H., Yang, Y., Fang, C., Huang, C. H., Chiang, C. J., Wu, C. F., ... & Drake, B. (2025). Balancing work and earnings: The long-term impact on mental health. Social Science & Medicine, 364, 117562.
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In Episode 80 we chat about a recent paper published by Schlegel et al (2024) ! We discuss the impact that daily displays of appreciation from colleagues can have on our emotions and ultimately how ready we are to tackle the next day! Go out there and be kind!
Schlegel, L., Kleszewski, E., & Otto, K. (2024). The butterfly effect of appreciation at work: An impulse for daily perfectionistic cognitions and well-being beyond the workday. Journal of Occupational Health Psychology, 29(6), 431–444. https://doi.org/10.1037/ocp0000390
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In Episode 79 we chat about a recent paper published by Keaton (Fletcher, 2024)! We discuss the prevalence and nature of child labor, laws in the United States that impact child employment, and the (lack of) I-O research focusing on children at work. Major take away is that children are working, are going to continue to be working and exposed to a range of hazards, and we need to study them.
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In Episode 78, we talk about the Occupational Health and Safety Administration’s recent proposed regulations on Heat Stress. We chat about what is heat stress, who is susceptible, how do we prevent it, and where is all the OHP research on heat stress? We recommend that listeners who are able respond to the call for public comment for OSHA to share your expertise, address their specific questions, and support these regulations. To aid in this, you can find a copy of what Keaton submitted on our Healthy Work Substack. The deadline for these comments is December 30, 2024.
OSHA’s regulation: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/08/30/2024-14824/heat-injury-and-illness-prevention-in-outdoor-and-indoor-work-settings
Submit a Comment: https://www.regulations.gov/commenton/OSHA-2021-0009-4761
OSHA’s specific questions they want addressed in comments (though you can say anything): https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/files/Heat-NPRM-Compilation-of-Requests-for-Comment.pdf
Keaton’s submitted comment: https://open.substack.com/pub/healthywork/p/heat-stress-comment-for-osha?r=zewfu&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
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In Episode 77 we are joined by Dr. Kimberly French who talks about her recently published paper (Tong, Van Egdom, French & Zhang, 2024). We chat about the impact that being emotionally exhausted from work, but trying to hide that around your kids, has on them. Turns out, they learn to hide their emotions too when you do this!
You can find Dr. French here
Tong, J., Van Egdom, D., French, K. et al. Parent–Adolescent Transmission of Emotional Exhaustion: Testing a Social-Cognitive Spillover and Crossover Model. J Bus Psychol (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10869-024-09974-3
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In Episode 76 we are joined by Dr. Trevor Spoelma who talks about our recently published paper (Spoelma & Fletcher, 2024). We chat about the our findings that leaders who experience more financial stress are more likely to engage in abusive supervision. This is especially true for leaders who are men! We also chat about some other cool findings in our paper!
You can find Dr. Spoelma here
Spoelma, T. M., & Fletcher, K. A. (2024). Financial stress and leadership behavior: The role of leader gender, Journal of Occupational Health Psychology, 29(5), 317-341.
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In Episode 75 we continue our book club episodes! We wrap up our discussion of Brave New Workplace by Dr. Julian Barling. In this episode we chat about the social aspects of work, dirty work, safety, being valued by companies, unions and macro-economic trends.
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In Episode 74, we are rejoined by Maryana!!!!! We start a new style of episode, our book club episodes! We’re starting with a two-part series on Brave New Workplace by Dr. Julian Barling. In this episode we chat about dignity, fairness, and justice and all of the different manifestations it may have in the workplace and their impacts on wellbeing.
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In Episode 73 we are joined by Dr. Haley Cobb who talks about her recently published paper (Cobb, Strasburg, Billeaud, Rauvola, Thomas, & Rudolph, 2024). We chat about the strong evidence that in couples who both engage in paid labor, one’s work-family conflict impacts the other’s marital satisfaction.
You can find Dr. Cobb here
Cobb, H.R., Strasburg, A.E., Billeaud, M.L. et al. Applying the Actor-partner Interdependence Model to Meta-analysis: A Dyadic Test of the Spillover-crossover Model for Dual-income Couples. Occup Health Sci (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41542-024-00195-x
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In Episode 72 we are joined by Caroline Moughan who talks about her recently published paper (Moughan & Katz, 2024). We go deep on the intersection of cannabis use, cannabis legality, mental health, and work.
You can find Caroline on LinkedIn .
Moughan, C.J., Katz, I.M. Joint Effects: Where and How the Frequency of Cannabis Use Shapes the Relationship Between Employee Mental Health and Sickness Absenteeism. Occup Health Sci (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41542-024-00190-2
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In Episode 71 we are joined by Dr. Lacie Barber who talks about her recently published paper (Barber, Leslie, & Samaniego, 2024). We go deep on the concept of telepressure and strategies for individuals, managers, and organizations to address it.
You can find Dr. Barber on her website and you can keep up with her lab’s work here.
Barber, L.K., Leslie, S. & Samaniego, A. Workplace Telepressure and Work Rumination: Evidence of Incremental Validity Beyond Workaholism. Occup Health Sci (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41542-024-00187-x
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In Episode 70 we are joined by Dr. Danni Gardner who talks about her recently published paper (Gardner & Ryan, 2024). We chat about her findings lesbian, gay, and bisexual people who feel that their workplace is not welcoming to queer people are less likely to come out at work, and therefore more likely to establish and maintain strong boundaries between work and home lives. This gives some data behind the saying it’s not coming out, but letting people in.
You can find Dr. Gardner on her website.
Gardner, D.M., Ryan, A.M. Does Identity Distancing Beget Work-Life Boundary Segmentation? An Examination of Lesbian, gay & Bisexual Employees. Occup Health Sci (2024). https://doi.org/10.1007/s41542-024-00193-z
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In Episode 69 we are joined by Dr. Alice Brawley Newlin who talks about her recently published paper (Brawley Newlin, 2023). We chat about her findings that depending on how you measure it well well over half of gig workers are financially dependent upon their gig work, especially men and those that are married.
You can find Dr. Alice Brawley Newlin at her website
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In Episode 68 we are joined by Dr. Ji Woon Ryu who talks about her recently published paper (Ryu et al., 2023). We chat about their findings that perceived mistreatment at work results in worse outcomes for Black employees than White employees, including costing up to 100 minutes of sleep!
You can find Dr. Ryu at her website (https://www.jiwoonryu.com/).
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In Episode 67 we are joined by Dr. Gordon Sayre who talks about his recently published paper (Sayre & Conroy, 2023). We chat about their review of all of the literature linking work pay and health and wellbeing. In addition to identifying four key features of pay that can impact wellbeing, we answer the question “does money make you happy?”.
You can find Gordon here.
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In Episode 66 we are joined by Dr. Malissa Clark who talked about her recently published book, Never Not Working: Why the Always-On Culture Is Bad for Business--and How to Fix It. We chat about what workaholism is (and isn’t), the biggest myth about workaholism, what to do about workaholism, and the experience of getting to chat personally with people experiencing workaholism.
Dr. Clark can be found on her personal website (https://www.malissaclark.com/), her LinkedIn profile, or her University of Georgia Lab Page.
You can buy her book at all major book retailers, and here’s a link to buy it through bookshop.org to support your local bookstore. (https://bookshop.org/p/books/never-not-working-why-the-always-on-culture-is-bad-for-business-and-how-to-fix-it-malissa-clark/19691615)
And if you’re interested in Workaholics Anonymous, here’s a link to their website (https://workaholics-anonymous.org/).
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In Episode 65 we are joined by Dr. Elisabeth Stelson who talked about a recent paper (Stelson, Dash, McCorkell, Wilson, Assaf, Re’em, and Wei) that examined what it’s like to have long COVID and try to return to the workplace. So many important and powerful themes came up, but I was most struck by the fact that not only do we have a moral imperative to create systems and structures to support workers with disabilities, who want and need to work, but that it makes good business sense.
Dr. Stelson can be found here (https://scholar.harvard.edu/estelson)
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In Episode 64 we are joined by Dr. Zachary Mercurio who talked about a recent paper (Mercurio, Myles, Adams, & Clifton, 2023) that examined what it is that leaders do to help followers find their work meaningful. They created a really useful scale that workers and leaders alike can use to assess themselves or their leaders on six key groups of behaviors.
Find Zack Mercurio here (https://www.zachmercurio.com/) or on LinkedIn (@ZachMercurio)
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In Episode 63 we start the new year off with the awesome Dr. Ussama Khan who talked about a recent paper (Khan, Patel & Barnes, 2023) that examined the impact of air quality on leader’s behaviors. They found that subordinates working in other cities rated leaders as more abusive and disengaged on days when the leader reported worse air quality!
You can find Dr. Khan here.
If you’re in the US, you can also check your air quality index here
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In Episode 62 we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Christopher Wiese who talked about a recent paper (Wiese, Li, Tang, & Brown, 2023) that examined how different aspects of your commute impact your work and wellbeing. The quality of your commute, not the length of the commute, is what really predicts outcomes!
You can find Dr. Wiese here and on the website formerly known as twitter here
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In Episode 61 we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Mindy Shoss who talked about a recent paper (Shoss et al., 2023) that examined how different aspects of precarious employment determined whether people came to work sick (or sent their kids to childcare) with COVID or COVID-like symptoms at the height of the pandemic. Feelings of powerlessness and concerns about job security were key predictors!
You can find Dr. Shoss here.
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In episode 60, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Drake Van Egdom. He talked about a recent paper (Van Egdom et al., 2023) that explored the interaction of both mothers’ and fathers’ parental leave on mothers’ return to work, separation anxiety, and breastfeeding. Parental leave for both parents had key impacts!
You can find Dr. Van Egdom here and on the website formerly known as Twitter here.
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In episode 59, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Rebecca Brossoit. She talked about a recent paper (Brossoit et al., 2023) that explored the impacts of a broad workplace intervention targeting supervisor support and sleep training on sleep and workplace safety. They found that the intervention improved safety largely through improved sleep quality!
You can find Dr. Brossoit here. You can also find more resources on Total Worker Health here. You can also find more from the Oregon Healthy Workforce center here. Also, the project that provided the data for the paper received a variety of funding listed below:
The U.S. Army Medical Research Acquisition Activity, 820 Chandler Street, Fort Detrick, Maryland, 21702-5014, United States, is the awarding and administering acquisition office. The published work was supported by the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs, through the Psychological Health and Traumatic Brain Injury Research Program—Comprehensive Universal Prevention/Health Promotion Interventions Award, under Award W81XWH-16-1-0720 (to Leslie B. Hammer). Opinions, interpretations, conclusions, and recommendations are those of the author and are not necessarily endorsed by the Department of Defense. The published work was also partly supported by the Oregon Institute of Occupational Health Sciences at Oregon Health & Science University via funds from the Division of Consumer and Business Services of the State of Oregon (ORS 656.630 to Leslie B. Hammer). Additionally, work on the published article was supported by Grant T03OH008435 (to Tori L. Crain and Jordyn J. Leslie) awarded to Portland State University, funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH). Its contents are solely the responsibility of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official views of NIOSH, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or Health and Human Services (HHS).
The remarks made in this interview by Dr. Brossoit are solely the responsibility of Dr. Brossoit and do not necessarily represent the official views of the funding agencies.
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In episode 58, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Katrina Burch. She talked about a recent paper (Rollins & Burch, 2023) examining the impact of work interference with school on college student alcohol consumption. They found that for students who believed alcohol will relieve stress and tension, days when work interfered with school were more likely to result in the students drinking!
You can find Dr. Burch here. C. Faith Rollins is an alumna of Western Kentucky University's I-O program and is now a Human Resources Generalist for Athens Paper.
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In episode 57, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Drs. Jenna McChesney and Lori Foster. They talked about their most recent paper (McChesney & Foster, 2023). They conducted an experiment to see if disclosing anxiety and depression on LinkedIn harms potential job prospects. They find that it very well might!
You can find Dr. McChesney on the website formerly known as twitter at @jenna_mcchesney or her faculty website https://www.meredith.edu/directory/jenna-mcchesney/.
You can find Dr. Foster on her personal website https://www.lorifoster.org/ or her faculty website https://chass.ncsu.edu/people/llfoster/.
You can find the UN Sustainable Development goals at https://sdgs.un.org/goals.
You can find the WHO and ILO joint policy brief on mental health at work at https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789240057944.
Remember that we provide transcripts for our episodes on our substack.
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In episode 56, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Dr. Valentina Reyes. She talked about her most recent paper (Reyes, Unanue, Vignoles, & Van den Broeck, 2023). Dr. Reyes outlines what it means to be materialistic at work and how that can hinder your ability to meet your psychological needs, ultimately leading to feelings of burnout.
You can find Dr. Reyes on her faculty website (https://www.udp.cl/academico/valentina-reyes-ahumada/).
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In episode 55, we are fortunate enough to be joined by Steven Zhou. He talked about his most recent paper, (Zhou, Aitken, & Kuykendall, 2023). In a Healthy Work first, we are covering a theory paper! Steven outlines his definition of callings, including an updated understanding of callings that can help people navigate finding fulfillment in these modern economic times.
You can find Steven on the website formerly known as twitter @szzhou4.
Check out our previous episode on the downside of certain occupational callings during COVID-19: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5LfixWmHt7aL6lPlhELhl6
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Maryana is out on parental leave, but the show must go on. We're excited to bring you a series of interviews with authors of recent papers on occupational health and wellbeing. The format will largely be the same as previous episodes, but instead of Maryana or Keaton explaining the paper, you get the author doing it in their own words. Look out for the first episode of this series on Monday.
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In episode 54 we chat about a paper by Darouei, Delanoeije, & Verbruggen. Across two studies of around 80 employees each, on average, people who perceived work interruptions at home positively were more engaged and less stressed. That said, on days when there was a work interruption at home, it didn't matter how you perceived that particular interruption, it didn't affect engagement or strain.
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In episode 53 we chat about a paper by Seulki "Rachel" Jang, Ho Kwan Cheung, & Michael Ford. In a study of over 100 workers, they found that feeling like your company cares about health and wellbeing predicts feeling less exhausted and, in turn, fewer insomnia symptoms. However, they found that this was not the case for people with high BMI. We talk a bit in our episode about limitations of the BMI, especially at an individual level, but if you want to know more we provide the link to two other podcast episodes by maintenance phase below.
Paper: https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/joop.12457
Maintenance Phase episode on BMI: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Hm6oJt40eeAHhKseCtju8
Maintenance Phase episode on workplace wellness interventions: https://open.spotify.com/episode/71WyoWszjT2j0kF6ySUsxA
Maintenance Phase episode on the link between body fat and health outcomes: https://open.spotify.com/episode/54Rt3Unq8epTwSMmSuCWei
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In episode 52 we chat about a paper by Nicola von Allmen, Andreas Hirschi, Anne Burmeister, and Kristen Shockley. They published a meta-analysis (a study of all the studies on a topic) on work-nonwork interventions. They found that largely, the most impactful interventions were those that directly increased personal resources such as time, mindfulness, and resilience. They also found that not nearly enough studies explored reducing demands as an intervention.
Paper: https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2023-79121-001
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In Episode 50, we chat about some big developments in our lives that have kept us from the podcast, and also about a paper by Xie and colleagues (in press) that focuses on the impact of negative workplace gossip on people’s ability to detach from work. Take away: being the subject of workplace gossip makes it hard to detach, and ultimately harms your satisfaction with life.
Xie, J., Huang, Q., Yan, M., & Liang, Y. (2023). It is Tough to Detach from Gossip: The Impact of Perceived Negative Workplace Gossip on Life Satisfaction. Journal of Business and Psychology, 1-15. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10869-023-09894-8
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In Episode 49, we discuss a paper (Ocampo et al., 2023) on the impacts of HIV stigma on workers. People who perceived higher levels of HIV stigma from their peers reported higher fear and shame, and this shame translated into worse job performance. But people with healthier immune systems and higher core self-evaluations were less likely to have shame translate to worsened job performance.We release this episode today, March 20, 2023, in honor of National Native HIV/AIDS Awareness Day.
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In Episode 48, we discuss a paper (Sayre, 2023) on the impacts of variable pay on health outcomes. If you have variable pay, you're more likely to view the world through a lens of scarcity, and this worsens physical symptoms and sleep, especially if you're highly dependent on that volatile pay.
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In Episode 47, we discuss a paper (Briggs, Gardner, & Ryan, 2023) on perceived sexist behavior in the workplace. Consistently the most damaging behavior, and the behavior perceived to be sexist most consistently, was condescendingly explaining something (i.e., mansplaining).
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In Episode 47, we discuss a paper (Shifrin & Michel, 2022) on the impact of workplace flexibility (i.e., flexibility in when and where you work) on health outcomes. Largely, flexible work arrangements are associated with better physical and psychological health.
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We're baaaaaack! In Episode 46, we discuss a paper (Regina & Allen, 2023) on what a masculinity contest culture is and how it can be harmful for your emotional health. These cultures are especially harmful for men who aren't competitive or women who are.
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In Episode 45, we discuss a paper (Caulderwood, Meyer, & Minnen, 2022) on the experience of being asked to work at a time, in a location, or in a way that is different from how you would normally expect to work. Turns out if companies have strong consequences or limit your choices around these asks then your wellbeing takes a hit.
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In Episode 44, we discuss a paper (Rivkin, Diestel, Gerpott, & Unger 2022) on the experience of going to work while feeling sick. Largely, working while sick is a draining experience, but this can be made a little better if you actually are productive. Yet another case for guaranteed paid sick leave.
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In Episode 43, we discuss a paper (Gardner & Prasad, 2022) on the outcomes of experiencing authenticity at work for Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual employees. LGB employees who were out at work were more likely to experience authenticity at work which led to more job involvement and organizational commitment. But the employees had to feel psychologically safe at work to fully realize these benefits.
Also, we’re posting this on September 23, which is Bisexual Visibility Day. Bisexual people make up the majority of the LGB community, and were 32% of the sample in this study!
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In Episode 42, we discuss a paper (Lu et al., 2022) on how people react and respond to customer mistreatment. If you have a positive self-view you’re more likely to view mistreatment as a challenge and react with kindness and help towards customers. But if you view it as a threat, you’re more likely to react with rudeness.
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In Episode 41, we discuss a paper (Gerpott et al., 2022) on how having a bad commute ruins your experience of flow at work, and harms your performance and engagement at work. This is especially the case if your work is demanding or if your psychological needs aren’t being met.
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In Episode 40, we discuss a paper (Dugan et al., 2022) on how having a bad work schedule (e.g., long hours, no days off, night hours) is linked to your sleep and depressive symptoms. We also discuss how schedule flexibility can help reduce these effects.
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In Episode 39, we have a special guest host, Dr. Kimberly French, to discuss her paper (French, Drummond, Storey, 2022) on how experiencing psychological neglect and abuse as a child leads to a reduced sense of control and social support as an adult, thus making it more likely that you’ll experience work-family conflict. We also talk about governmental policies and organizational strategies that can reduce the instances of psychological maltreatment of children.
Note: In this episode we talk about childhood psychological trauma. If that’s triggering for you then you’ll probably want to skip this episode.
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In this BONUS episode Keaton talks with Drs. Gordon Schmidt and Sy Islam about their upcoming book Leaders Assemble: Leadership in the MCU. Specifically, we chat about the chapter on leadership and stress. You can pre-order the book from an independent book store here.
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In Episode 38, we discuss a paper by Pluut, Ilies, Su, Weng, & Liang (2022) on how social stressors at work can impact how you treat your partner at home. Specifically, in line with a wealth of literature, this study shows if you have social stressors at work, you’re more likely to feel burnt out, and ultimately treat your partner poorly, especially if you’re a trusting person.
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We’re back from our unexpected hiatus!
In Episode 37, we discuss a paper by Hughes, Freier, & Barratt (2022) on the experience of receiving unhelpful help at work. Receiving unhelpful help is associated with a range of negative attitudes and behaviors, and there are certain personality traits that put you at higher risk for these outcomes. We suggest creating a culture and habit of asking people if they need help, what that help is, and listening to and respecting their answers.
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In Episode 36, we discuss a paper by Cho & Kim (2022) on the impact of eating behaviors at night on next day job performance. If you eat “poorly” at night you feel bad physically and psychologically the next morning, and this translates into worse on-the-job behavior (less likely to engage in helping behaviors and more likely to withdraw).
Please note that in this episode we do talk about “unhealthy” eating, but we recognize that everyone has different dietary goals. Also, if this content may be triggering for you, this might be an episode you want to skip.
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In Episode 35, we discuss a paper by Cheung, Anderson, King, Mahabir, Warner, & Jones (2022) on the subtle discrimination women with children face when applying for jobs. Parenthood and applying for jobs are both stressful enough on their own, but this study shows that women applicants with children are viewed more negative and rejected more quickly than their men counterparts and their women counterparts without children.
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In Episode 34, we discuss a paper by Shen, Liang, Brown, Ni, & Zheng (2022) on how supervisors abuse poorly performing subordinates, but that this causes emotional exhaustion for the supervisors. Having a chronically poorly performing subordinate increases supervisors’ emotional exhaustion, due in part, to supervisors’ higher levels of abusive supervision. This further challenges the usefulness of the “tough love” approach to poor performance.
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In Episode 33, we discuss a paper by Van Egdom (2022) on how companies' announcements about upcoming cost-cutting measures during COVID impacted employees' feelings of job insecurity and their ability to focus their attention. Take away: these announcements made employees feel less secure which makes it harder to focus, unless they have a supportive supervisor.
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In Episode 32, we discuss a paper by Yuan, Ye, & Zhong (2021) on how people reengage with work after a long break (like the one from COVID-19 lockdowns). In this sample, having leaders who were safety-oriented made reattachment efforts more effective at increasing work engagement, safety behavior, performance, and withdrawal at work.
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In Episode 31, we discuss a paper by ten Brummelhuis, Calderwood, Rosen, & Gabriel (2021) on the impact of physical activity during the day on self-efficacy, ego depletion and job performance. People who are intrinsically motivated to work out experienced a self-efficacy boost on days they did vigorous or light workouts, but a self-efficacy drop if they only had moderate workouts. People who were intrinsically motivated to workout experienced a self-efficacy boost only if they had a moderate workout. Those self-efficacy boosts translated into performance improvements as rated by a coworker. So, go forth and exercise.
CORRECTION NOTICE: In this episode, we occasionally reference self-esteem when what we mean is self-efficacy. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you to the listener who pointed out this error. So to be clear, this study examines self-efficacy, not self-esteem, as an outcome.
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In Episode 30, we discuss a paper by Shin & Hur (2021) on the impact of being forced to stick to a script when dealing with customers, and how job crafting can help offset these negative outcomes. If you can't give workers flexibility in how they respond to customers, give them flexibility in other areas of their jobs.
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In Episode 29, we discuss a paper by Leger, Lee, Chandler, & Almeida (2021) that discusses the impact of an organizational intervention designed to increase and support worker flexibility on how employees react to stressors. Employees whose organizations went through the intervention had more flexibility, and were less reactive to workplace stressors, particularly when in comes to stressors that are less interpersonal.
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In Episode 28, we discuss a paper by Watkins, Krishnan, & Barnes (2021) that discusses the impact of lack of sleep on cyber incivility (things like sending rude emails). People who get less sleep are more likely to engage in incivility, especially if they're already low in agreeableness. This is likely because they were less able to regulate themselves, and ended up engaging in cyber incivility.
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In Episode 27, we discuss a paper by Miner, Costa, He, & Wooderson (2021) that discusses the impact of incivility from coworkers of the same or different political group on your physical symptoms. There are A LOT of findings in this paper, but we mostly focus on the takeaway that being in the political minority at work makes you more susceptible to incivility from others.
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We wanted to raise your awareness of this week's celebration of Smarter Workplace Awareness Month. Kenneth De Meuse and Erin Bowen wrote a piece on agile and adaptable work cultures and Stacey Boyle talks about virtual learning on Bias Check-In an I-O an Careers podcast.
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In Episode 26, we discuss a paper by Kundro, Burke, Grandey & Sayre (2021) that examines what leads to customers sexually harassing workers. The study finds that needing to provide service with a smile and dependence on tips increase the customer's power, which predicts sexual harassment.
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We just wanted to bring your attention to the fact that September is Smarter Workplace Awareness Month. All month long, SIOP will be releasing content about how to improve the workplace, including improving worker health. This includes releasing member-created content from the champions of the 2021 Top 10 Workplace Trends (pssst... your Healthy Work hosts are the champions for the Employee Health, Well-Being, Wellness and Safety trend). Keep your eyes on SIOP.org for more updates.
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In Episode 25, we discuss a paper by Somaraju, Griffin, Olenick, Chang, & Kozlowski (2021) that explores really interesting feedback loops between types of conflict and psychological distress, particularly in a sample of people in a habitat meant to resemble a mission on Mars. Ultimately, conflict can breed more conflict, and relationship conflict and stress can feedback into one another, and all of this is more likely if you have a high workload.
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In Episode 24, we discuss a paper by Andel, Arvan, & Shen (2021) that explores how consuming news about COVID-19 can make you more anxious and less engaged at work, but that work may serve as a reprieve from this anxiety if you are called to it because it gives you a sense of purpose. On the other hand, if you're called to work because you want to help people, you may be worse off when consuming COVID-19 news. Regardless, stop doom scrolling.
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In Episode 23, we discuss a paper by Schilbach, Baethge, & Rigotti (2021) that explores the effects of challenge-type stressors versus hindrance-type stressors on novel stress reactivity. They found that being exposed to a moderate amount of challenges at work helped people react best to new stressors, compared to too few or too many challenges. There was no effect of hindrances.
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In Episode 22, we discuss a paper by Cangiano, Parker, and Ouyang (2021) that explores how proactivity and taking charge at work can make it hard to detach and recover at home. They found people who did take charge found it harder to detach and recover at night unless they were people who were motivated to be autonomous.
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In Episode 21, we are joined by Dr. Kimberly French, and expert in work-family conflict (and Keaton's spouse). Keaton and Kim discuss a paper by Lawson, Lee, and Maric (2021) that explores the effects of reacting negatively to work-to-family conflict on sleep, distress, and health behaviors. People who tend to be more negatively reactive experience worse subjective sleep quality and more psychological distress.
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In Episode 20, we discuss a paper by Simon and colleagues (2021) that explores how empathetic leaders suffer from giving negative feedback. Over the course of three studies, the authors show that leaders who are more empathetic perform worse and feel more distressed when they give negative feedback, compared to their less empathetic peers.
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In Episode 19, we discuss a paper by Henderson & Horan (2021) that explores how sleep impacts our performance on the job as well as our attitudes about our job. Sleep, both quality and quantity, is important for job performance, sleep quality more so. Sleep is particularly important for attendance at work and general task performance. So dear listener, get some sleep!
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In Episode 18, we discuss a paper by Andel, Shen, and our VERY OWN Arvan (2021) that explores how different types of job stress during the COVID-19 pandemic were linked to employee loneliness, which in turn predicted higher levels of depression and fewer helping behaviors on the job. Good news is that people higher in self-compassion were less likely to report being depressed even if they were lonely, but they were also less likely to engage in helping behaviors on the job.
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In Episode 17, we discuss a paper by Wu, Wang, Parker, & Griffin (2020) that explores how prolonged job insecurity can change your personality. Over 9 years, people who had extended periods of job insecurity were more neurotic, less conscientious, and less agreeable.
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In Episode 16, we discuss a paper by Shockley, Clark, Dodd, & King (2021) that explores how couples handled their work and family demands while navigating working from home during the COVID-19 pandemic. Couples who were able to alternate days of going into work while the other partner stayed home with the child(ren) fared best.
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In Episode 15, we discuss a paper by Allen, Merlo, Lawrence, Slutsky, & Gray (2021) that explores how people balance work and non-work lives when working at home during the COVID-19 pandemic. People who had a home office, and prefer work and non-work to stay separate found better balance. We discuss strategies people shared about creating boundaries and finding balance.
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In Episode 14, we discuss a paper by Chong, Huang, and Chang (2020) that explores the impact of COVID-19 induced setbacks on work tasks on employees' withdrawal and emotional exhaustion. Effects were particularly harmful for employees whose tasks relied heavily on others and these effects were exacerbated if organizations didn't provide necessary task-related support.
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In Episode 13, we discuss a paper by DiStaso and Shoss (2020) that examines how anticipated workload changes the relationship between current workload and emotional strain. Essentially, if you expect your workload to stay the same or go up, your current workload impacts your emotional strain, but if you expect it to go down, there is no relationship between current workload and emotional strain.
Shoutout to our new favorite listener who suggested this paper. Send us your thoughts, comments, feedback, and suggestions.
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In episode 12, we discuss a paper by Vaziri, Casper, Wayne, & Matthews (2020) about the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic on how people navigate the balance between work and family. Although most people's patterns of work-family balance were unaffected by the pandemic (during the first month of U.S. quarantines) individual differences in preference and behaviors affected how people's patterns did change.
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In episode 11, we discuss a paper by Kuykendall, Craig, Stiksma, & Guarino (Online First) about the reasons people don't use all of their vacation days. People who feel they are generally able to disconnect from work on vacation and those who expect to be relaxed on vacation are more likely to use all of their vacation days, but people who feel that vacation might result in a financial burden are less likely to use all of their days.
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We are SO excited to bring you this special episode of Healthy Work. We are joined by one of our favorite podcasts Workr Beeing. If you like what we do, you'll love them! Together we talk about why it's hard for the science of healthy work to make it into practice. We briefly discuss a relevant paper by Aguinis & Cascio.
We definitely recommend you check out Workr Beeing on their website (workrbeeing.com), LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram (@WorkrBeeing), or email (contact@workrbeeing.com). You can also listen (and subscribe) to their podcast!
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In this episode, we discuss a paper by Yu and Duffy (2020) about the effects of abusive supervision and how sometimes supervisors can make it seem like they're abusive to help you. Don't be an abusive supervisor, and don't be tricked into thinking it's good for you.
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In Episode 9 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Smith, Martinez, & Gettle (2020) that explores how the perceived and actual healthiness of the food offered in workplace cafeterias affects employee's satisfaction, intention to quit, and perceived organizational support. Workplaces with healthier offerings have employees who feel more supported, and therefore, more satisfied and less likely to quit.
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In Episode 8 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Du, Bakker, & Derks (2020) that found that having positive experiences with children, AND talking about them helped people perform better the next day at work and handle work demands better. This phenomenon of positive experiences at home helping you be better at work is called work-to-family enrichment.
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In Episode 7 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Sayre, Grandey, & Chi (2020) that tested how experiences at work lead to after-work drinking. Employees who tried to actually experience the emotions they have to display at work actually drank less after work. Those who only faked the emotions drank more, but only if they have an emotionally demanding job.
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In Episode 6 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Horan, Flaxman, & Stride (in press) that examined the effects of vacation on exhaustion and negative mood. Unless employees were high in perfectionism and worked during their vacation, employees vacation boosted their mood and made them less exhausted.
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In Episode 5 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Crain and colleauges (2019) that experimentally tested an intervention in the workplaced designed to improve employee sleep. Employees with suportive supervisors, schedule control/flexibility, got more sleep on average each night even up to a year later, and felt like they had more sufficient sleep. If you want resources from this intervention you can go to workfamilyhealthnetwork.org
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In Episode 4 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Sianoja, Syrek, de Bloom, Korpela, & Kinnunen (2018) that tested how walking in a park or doing relaxation techniques during lunch breaks boost experiences in the afternoon. Taking a walk or relaxing can increase concentration, decrease detachment, strain, and fatigue in the afternoon.
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In Episode 3 of Healthy Work, we discuss a recent paper by Baethge, Vahle-Hinz, & Rigotti that tests the effects of support from coworkers on a physiological indicator of stress (heart rate variability) throughout the day. People with more coworker support showed less physiologically stress throughout the day.
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In this episode, we discuss a paper by Konradt, Heblich, Krys, Garbers, & Otte (2020) that tests the efficacy of sit-stand desks on employee health outcomes across 6 months. Sit-stand desks minimized aches and pains and feelings of fatigue.
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In Episode 1 of Healthy Work, we discuss a paper published in the Journal of Occupational Health Psychology by Bennett, Gabriel, and Calderwood (2019) about the benefits of taking microbreaks (brief pauses to rest, relax, and recover) during work.
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