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Andre and Tameka set out to hire a private investigator to uncover anything and everything they could.
This new information provided by Jamael, coupled with Andre’s access to the law library and learning the law, made him realize there may be a way out.
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Episode produced by: Studio G
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Who was this “old-timer”, as Andre calls him? Why did he approach Andre? What did he want? And where did he want Andre to go with him?
These were the questions going through Andre’s mind.
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Andre had been shot in 1998, a year prior to this crime being committed, but his recovery was extensive – Andre almost lost his life when he got shot. A year later he was still unable to walk properly, let alone run.
Yet, he was still identified in a line up as the assailant.
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Episode produced by: Studio G
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How many times have you heard the phrase, “you look so much like someone I know”?
I hear it all the time, but I rarely think about that statement much after it’s said. Sometimes I wonder if I saw the person they are referring to, would I also think they look like me, or not at all. And that is usually the extent of the energy or thought I give to it.
For Andre Brown, a 21-year old college student at the Borough of Manhattan Community College, this one statement changed his life forever.
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Every year, on Pravin’s death anniversary, his family holds an annual memorial in Carbondale, at the exact location where Pravin took his last breath.
It’s not an easy spot to get to, especially in the winter time with the tough terrain, but Lovely and her family make the 6-hour drive every February to gather in Pravin’s memory and say a prayer for him.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
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By the time Judge Mark Clarke overturned the jury’s guilty verdict and let Gaege walk free, it had already been four and a half years since Pravin’s passing – and yet, Pravin’s family was back at square one having to try this case all over again. And there was still no justice.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
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Lovely was quoted as saying, “ I wanted the world to know that my son was not a drug-dealer, he was not drunk. He died because he was hit. I did not want Gaege to be put behind bars for his life. But yes, I wanted him to know that there are consequences to your actions and I want the law to hold him accountable.”
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After firing Wepsiec, Gaege needed to hire a new attorney. This is where Steve Greenberg came into the picture – Grenberg is the same lawyer who represented R. Kelly when he was facing criminal charges.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
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Pravin’s family stayed with Robinson when court was adjourned, from 4:00 pm onwards, waiting for the jury to reach a verdict. They were in the very same office where they had initially met David Robinson for the first time.
Then, at almost 11:00 pm, a police guard came in and told Robinson that it was time to head back to court. The jury deliberated for seven hours, and had finally reached a verdict.
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Pravin’s family only learned of Gaege in the first place, because of Monica. The police never even shared Gaege’s name with Lovely while Pravin was missing, or during the investigation.
And now, more than three years later, Lovely finally got the opportunity to witness Gaege being held accountable for his crimes. Music in this episode provided by Artlist:Christopher Galovan - Hold Me (1) Roniit - Solace - Instrumental Version Brianna Tam - Growth Vis Major - Slumber
Episode written by: Jia Wertz
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The trial started – but so did the games the defense was playing. From trying to request a motion for mistrial on a regular basis, to demanding that photos of Pravin not be allowed in the courtroom, it was clear the defense was not interested in a fair and just trial.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
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The day finally came that Lovely and Monica had been working towards for years. David Robinson called and said Gaege was being charged with Pravin’s murder.
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After struggling for multiple years, Lovely and Monica were finally able to trust someone in the legal system – someone with authority who could not only clear Pravin’s name of all the lies that were being fabricated about him, but also get justice for Pravin’s murder.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
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Monica’s local connections and her voice on her radio show coupled with Lovely’s tenacity and community support was a recipe for success. The two of them were on a mission to get justice, and nothing was going to stop them.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
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Armed with all the evidence and knowledge that Lovely and Monica had gathered, they set out to prove what they knew to be true, and to get justice for Pravin’s murder.
Without the help of the Carbondale Police, or the State’s Attorney, or anyone else who had the power to investigate and press charges in this case – Lovely and Monica knew they had to take care of it themselves.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
Your Hosts:Jia Wertz and John Gully
With so many pieces of evidence pointing to the exact things their instincts were telling them, Pravin’s family and Monica knew there was so much more to the story than they were being told. And if they wanted to get to the truth, they’d have to find it for themselves.
That’s exactly What they set out to do.
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Episode written by: Jia Wertz
Episode produced by: Studio G
Your Hosts:Jia Wertz and John Gully
We know the audio from Jonathan’s interview was difficult to hear last week because of the poor audio quality, so we are sharing the police interview transcript on our Facebook page for anyone who wants to read it in its entirety.
in this weeks episode we hear Gaeges second Police interview and he changed many details from what he had originally said, even admitting to his lies at one point.
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On Feb 17th, 2014 Jonathan was interviewed by the police. That was before Gaege was ever brought in for questioning. Even though they drove to the party together, both Gaege and his cousin Jonathan asserted that Jonathan did not leave the party with Gaege that night. The audio of the police interview is extremely poor and we did our best to make it intelligable so you can hear Jonathan's words. We felt, however, it was key to hear at least some of this interview to help understand how these interviews impacted the case.
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An Invitation to Silence by Shahead Mostafafar
Quiet by Eleven Tales
Homage by Suraj Nepal
Episode written by:
Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
It’s hard to fathom that Pravin could have been left where he was, and in the condition that he was, by one person alone. That’s one of the reasons Monica thinks Gaege wasn’t alone when he attacked Pravin and left him on the side of Illinois Route 13. But there is a lot more to it than that.
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Yotam Haimovitch - Magic Spices
Yotam Haimovitch - The Morning Glow
Yotam Haimovitch - Mystical Embroidery
Alan A Craig - Tragic News
Onyx Music - Malabi Hash
Brianna Tam - Intrepid
Patrick Ussher - The Desert
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Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
There were two versions of events for the night Pravin went missing – one that Gaege was telling the police, and the other that Pravin’s autopsy and phone records were revealing. And then, of course, there were the accounts of the evening from Pravin’s friends who were with him at the party. All these pieces put together tell the story of what actually occurred.
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Theatre of Delays - Cosmos
Theatre of Delays - Obsessions
Ben Winwood - Emma
Michael Vignola - Through Adversity
Michael Vignola - Follow Me Nowhere
Philip Daniel - Gradient
Episode written by:
Jia Wertz
Episode produced by:
Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
The Carbondale Police Chief, Jody O’Guinn, told reporters at a February 18th press conference that Pravin likely had trouble finding his way out of the woods because of the “difficult terrain and low temperatures.”
The story the police officers told Lovely and her family about the day Pravin went missing was not accurate. Far from it, actually.
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Noises by David James Terry
Solstice by Lance Conrad
Hum by Lance Conrad
An Invitation to Silence by Shahead Mostafafar
Suraj Nepal by Charukeshi (Longing & Yearnings in Love)
Yotam Agam by Om Karam Instrumental Version
Birthplace by Ardie Son
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Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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On the night of the vigil, Priya had heard that a tip had come in. So her and Ashly went to the police station to find out what the news was.
With such little information coming forward up until this point, the family was hopeful to finally start getting some answers.
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One Man Bend - Still in Motion
Attila Erdelyi - Between Good and Evil
Shahead Mostafafar - Into the Next Dimension
Borrtex - There Is Always a Reason
Aija Alsina - Presence
Yehezkel Raz - Behind Every Decision
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Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
Pravin’s body was found approximately 400 yards from Lovely’s hotel room. In the same area that she had been mentioning to her family while the search was going on – even saying things such as, ‘what if he is right there?’. Her intuition was right – she had somehow known all along.
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Yotam Haimovitch - Whole Moon
One Man Bend - 23 Drops
Michael FK - Yearning
Sid Acharya - The Winter
Darkness - Onyx
Missing You by James Paul Mitchell
Kadir Demir - Mediterranean Scent
Wild - Swirling Ship
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Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
In this episode you will hear from Pravin's mother Lovely, his sister Priya, his cousin Ashly, and friend Kyle as they recount the events leading up to an answer to Pravin's whereabouts.
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ANBR - Yearning
BPMoore - Art Is Her Reflection
Michael FK - Yearning
Kadir Demir - Ebb and Flow
Patrick Ussher - In Spem Contra Spem
Enzo Bellomo - Serenity
Piotr Hummel - Forsaken (1)
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Jia Wertz
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Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
Pravin was nowhere to be found. Only leaving behind a few clues – a cryptic tweet that got everyone’s attention. And a sinister phone call to his friend Anita. So what happened that night after Pravin left the party?
Or did something go wrong at the party?
Did he, in fact, get in a fight with someone?
Was he at the wrong place at the wrong time?
Or did someone intentionally target Pravin?
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Yehezkel Raz - Four on Five
Aija Alsina - Collecting Memories
Aija Alsina - Sunrise
Boreís - Rame
Marek Jakubowicz - Dark Rose
Piotr Hummel - Forsaken
Will Taylor - Greensleeves
Onyx Music - Armaniac
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
This season we will be bringing you the case of a young man by the name of Pravin Varughese. The trauma his family went through and the trial that was a slam dunk. Or was it. Sometime when you think you have gotten all the answers you find you are left with more questions. Questions you should never have to ask yourself as you deal with the death of your child.
Like any typical college night, students at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale were heading to a house party. It was February 12th, 2014, a Wednesday, and just a couple of days before Valentine’s Day.
Pravin Varughese, a 19-year-old sophomore, wasn’t planning on going to the party – it was mid week, not the weekend – and he had a test the next morning. But his friends were going to the party, and they persuaded him to come along.
That party would be the last time anyone would see Pravin alive.
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Yotam Haimovitch - Whole Moon One Man Bend - Last Stretch DANSHA - Grab the Sky
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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On Saturday, January 22nd, a reception was held at the Grand County Public Library in Moab, where artist Ekaterina Tatarovich unveiled a handmade metal sculpture forming a sunflower and a rose wrapped around each other as though in an embrace. The piece of art is titled “In Memory of Kylen and Crystal.”
Ekaterina had the piece partially completed in time for the memorial service that was held back in September as well.
Sean-Paul and Jason both traveled to Moab for the unveiling.
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Gradient by Philip Daniel Better Now by Philip Daniel When I Held You by Ben Winwood Finding My Memories By Sivan Talmor Flight of the Inner Bird By Sivan Talmor
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Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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This interview will conclude our season. We will be releasing it in two-parts over the next couple of weeks because we spent hours talking to Sean-Paul. He opened up his heart, and shared so much – and we want to share the entirety of that conversation with you.
While these episodes will bring our season to a close, as new information develops in Kylen and Crystal’s case, we will be sure to cover it and update all of you.
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Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Your Hosts Jia Wertz and John Gully
On January 20th, 2022, Gabby Petito’s family spent 8.5 hours meeting with the FBI. The case is officially closed and the family had to endure the final process of obtaining Gabby’s belongings that were recovered from her van and from the Laundrie home. They left the FBI offices in Tampa with several boxes of her belongings – a nightmare no parent can fathom.
Ever since Brian’s remains were found in Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park, along with his notebook, we have all wondered what, if anything, would be revealed in that notebook. It was found submerged in water, making it even less likely that the contents of the notebook would be legible – but there was, at least, some hope that Gabby’s family may get some answers.
It has now been revealed that Brian admitted in the notebook that he killed Gabby.
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Kylen and Crystal had many friends in Moab. One of those friends worked with Crystal at McDonald's and her name is Shay. She is devastated. And five months later, she is still struggling to deal with the loss of her friends who she says she was so blessed to have known, even for the short period of time she was able to spend with them before their lives were brutally cut short.
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SHe's a Gift by Borrtex Birthplace by Ardie Son Missing You by James Paul Mitchell Short Love Story by Claudio Laucci My Blues(Inst.) By Moody Bear
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For months now family, friends, and people following the case have been urging the public to share Kylen and Crystal’s story and reach out to anyone who may have been in Moab in mid-August to share photos or videos that could hold the clues that are needed to solve this horrific crime.
But, of course, we never know who has sent anything in and what photos or videos have surfaced – until now.
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Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
Much has been speculated about whether or not Brian Laundrie could have been involved in the double homicide that took the lives of Kylen and Crystal. There are many oddities and coincidences between Brian and Kylen and Crystal – such as Brian’s close proximity to Kylen and Crystal, the overlapping dates in the small town of Moab, and the fact that three women were murdered within a couple weeks of each other. The last point especially stands out considering that there were only three murders in Moab over a span of 14 years – from 2006 to 2019. To have three murders within a couple of weeks seems very suspicious – especially with Brian in the vicinity.
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Upstreet Rodney by Sean-Paul Shulte What Dreams May Come by Jameson Nathan Jones Finding My Memories by Sivan Talmor Hum by Lance Conrad Bleak Desert by Falconer Roanoke River (Inst.) by the Ghosts of Liberty Too Much by Michael Vignola Landing on the Ground by Sivan Talmor Full by Oak and Cherry Walking in Forests by Ben Winwood
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia Wertz and John Gully
Just a couple days ago Sean-Paul posted some updates on social media. One said this, “A big tip from this week changes our satellite dates. We are now adding August 10th and August 11th to our search criteria. We believe the creeper was there earlier than the dates we previously released. New evidence suggests he was first there on Wednesday or sooner even. So go back and check dash cams again please!! Any car sedan or smaller vehicle coming or going off FR4651 just off Loop Road up on South Mesa.
And one more thing. We want to know who the couple was at Woody's that Crystal played pool with. We want to question EVERYONE PLEASE.”
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Forsaken by Piotr-Hummel The Tree who Grew on Water by Yoav Ilan Mysa by Laurel Violet Choral-no. 59 (Bach) by Ardie Son Faith by Simon Wester Fade to Black by Michael Vignola The Land that Time Forgot by Claire Kelly
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Your Hosts
Jia Wertz and John Gully
We will be taking next week off unless something breaks in either of the 2 cases we have covered this season. Have a safe and fun Holiday season!
New details have emerged about Crystal and Kylen’s last days, the creepy guy that was lurking around their camp, and other things we were quite shocked to learn. We spoke to Crystal’s cousin, Diane, who tracked down all of the friends that Crystal and Kylen spent time with the night they went missing – they opened up to her and shared information we have not heard, until now.
Also here is a link to help fund the investigation further set up by our guest in this episode Diane.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/syezh3-homicide-expense
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Bleak Desert Dusk by Falconer Grey by Kyle Preston Gnossienne No. 1 by Romi Kopelman Oval Window by Yehezkel Raz Breath, Eyes, Memory (Instrumental) by Lance Conrad Faith by Simon Wester Follow Me Nowhere by Michael Vignola Walking in Forests by Ben Winwood Give and Take by Michael Vignola
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia, Jeff and John
The case of Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie has left us all with many more questions than answers.
Why didn’t the FBI ever name Brian as a suspect in Gabby’s murder?
Did Brian have a gun?
Why didn’t Brian or his parents cooperate with law enforcement?
Did Chris and Roberta know of Brian’s whereabouts when he left their home, never to return?
Are the remains that were found in Myakkahatchee Park really those of Brian Laundrie?
What did he write in the notebook that was found? Does it contain a written confession?
How many of these questions would be answered, or are there just more questions to ask?
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Faith by Simon Wester Waiting for Tomorrow by Marek Jakubowicz Gnossienne No. 1 by Romi Kopelman Oval Window by Yehezkel Raz
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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There is a photo of Crystal Turner with her wife, Kylen Schulte, at their wedding in April of 2021. As is only right, both women look radiant with joy. It stands in stark contrast to the tragic end of their lives at the hand of some random “creepy guy” this past August at their campsite in the mountains near Moab, Utah. Crystal was 38, and Kylen was 24. Far too young to lose their lives.
Kylen’s family has been very open about both their desire for justice and their heartbreak at the loss of these two young women.
But no one has yet heard from Crystal’s family.
Until today….
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Episode written by Jia Wertz, John Gully, and Jeff Doty
Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia, Jeff and John
Cindy Sue Hunter ventured out into the La Sal Mountains searching for Kylen and Crystal after learning of their disappearance through a Facebook post that Kylen’s dad, Sean-Paul, had made.
Cindy Sue didn’t know the women well, but saw them around town often and felt a spiritual connection to them. Feeling compelled to go search for them, through forces she can’t fully explain, she headed out on a search-and-rescue mission into the vast mountains – without even knowing specifically where the two women may have been camping. The La Sal Mountain Scenic Drive alone is a 103 mile loop trail, and the mountainous area has boundless spots to set up campsites. It would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.
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Deep Waves by Bottega Baltazar The Carpenter by Mark Grundhoefer Faith by Simon Wester Quiet by Eleven Tales Landing on the Ground by Sivan Talmor (Instrumental) Submersed by Eleven Tales
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
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We have been learning more about the double homicide of Kylen Shulte and Crystal Turner through family members, like Kylens Aunt, Bridget Calvert, Kylens' half Brother, William, and we’ve even had a chance to speak with family friend Cindy Sue Hunter who located both of their bodies. More recently, we had the opportunity to talk with Jason Jenson, Private Eye who has been looking closely at the events leading up to and surrounding this most recent horrific crime that has the town of Moab on edge.
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Reminiscing by Yehezkel Raz Calme by Borrtex First Steps by Be Still the Earth Deep Blue Sea by Sivan Talmore How Can the World Contain You by The Soundkeeper Street Walking by Mostafafar White Dream by Yehezkel Raz
Episode written by Jia Wertz and John Gully
Episode produced by Studio G
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Jia, Jeff and John
Human remains were found at Myakkahatchee Park – now the question on everyone’s mind is: could they be Brian’s remains?
Following the FBI press conference at the park, Bertolino released this statement, “Chris and Roberta Laundrie were at the reserve earlier today when human remains and some of Brian’s possessions were located in an area where they had initially advised law enforcement that Brian may be. Chris and Roberta will wait for the forensic identification of the human remains before making any additional comments.”
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
The manhunt for Brian has been underway for over a month, with not much coming to fruition – up until now. Chilling new discoveries and Chris and Roberta’s peculiar behavior will leave you pondering whether or not they’ve actually known the whereabouts of their fugitive son.
New details paint a clearer picture of how controlling and abusive Brian actually was towards Gabby – with his anger escalating throughout their trip, and what happened in her final moments.
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Access Granted by The Bows Iris by Denys Horokhovskiy Fade to Black by Michael Vignola Give and Take by Michael Vignola What Dreams May Come by Nathan Jones Hum by Lance Conrad Solstice by Lance Conrad Deep Waves by Bottega Baltazar Ponte San Giovanni Dell Navi by Bottega Baltazar Distant Light by Salt of the Sound Grey by Kyle Preston Darkness by Onyx
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Sunrise
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Kylen Shulte and Crystal Turner had their lives cut very short at the hands of a ruthless murderer. Now the quiet town of Moab near the Colorado River in Grand County Utah is growing extremely concerned that there is a murderer roaming the area in the wake of the girls deaths and the murder of Gabby Petito not far from them. Grand County Sheriff's say not to be worried. Many residents don’t understand how they can make such a claim.
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The Carpenter by Mark Grundhoefer Follow Me Nowhere by Michael Vignola Give and Take by Michael Vignola Too Much by Michael Vignola Parallel Room by Alon Ohana On the River by James Paul Mitchell Missing you by James Paul Mitchell Wild by Swirling Ship She’s a Gift by Borrtex
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Lullaby For Desert Girls
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Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Gabby Petitos case created a media frenzy. But there were other crimes that took place in Moab around the same time frame. Kylen Shulte and her wife Crystal Turner were brutally murdered and very little press has covered it with the gusto that Gabby's murder was and still is being covered. We want to make sure that the killer in both crimes gets brought to justice. In this episode, we focus on the murder of Kylen and Crystal where there seems to be few leads in the case. We hope you can share this episode to keep the girls' names out there until their murderer is apprehended.
Music in this episode provided by Artlist:
Bumble Bee by Sean-Paul Shulte Gimme the Wings by Sean-Paul Shulte These Moments by Ben Winwood Too Much by Michael Vignola Ex-Voto by Bottega Baltazar Hum by Lance Conrad Solstice by Lance Conrad Distant Light by Salt of the Sound
And From Arches Audio:
What a Time to be Me
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Brian Laundrie is on the run. There is much speculation on where he may be, the people to claim to have encountered him have all made formal reports of their experiences and the Laundrie Family is still as elusive as ever when it comes to answering any questions about his whereabouts. Jia, Jeff and John take you through this maze of information in the hopes that we will finally learn where Laundrie is so he can be apprehended and face the consequences of his behavior, whatever that may be.
Music in this episode provided by Artlist:
Darkness by Onyx Music Dwell Among Us by Salt of the Sound (Vocal and Instrumental) Landing on the Ground by Sivan Talmor (Instrumental) On the River by James Paul Mitchell Oval Window by Yehezkel Raz Roanoke River by the Ghosts of Liberty ( INstrumental)
And From Arches Audio:
Lament
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Brian Laundrie is a wanted man. Wanted for using a credit card without permission. Of course we also know he was likely the last person to see Gabby Petito alive. Since his arrival back in North Port, Fl., he has gone missing and a federal warrant has been issued for his arrest. Among the LEA's actively looking for him around the country, he is being tracked by the FBI, North Port Police and Duane Lee Chapman. That's right, Dog the Bounty Hunter. Time to find Brian Laundrie.
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
We have created a timeline of Brian Laundrie's movements in this investigation. As of this publishing we learned that there has finally been a warrant issued for his arrest. But not for what you might think. The warrant is for using a debit card fraudulently – but at least there is an actual warrant.
Episode written by Jia Wertz
Episode produced by Studio G
Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie set out to live out of their converted van so they could explore the country and live freely. But their ill-fated trip ends with them both missing.
Episode written by Jia Wertz and Jeff Doty
Episode produced by Studio G