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Jules and Stocks 

Each week Jules and Stocks talk to the people behind your favourite podcasts, and run through the latest news in podcasting. 

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Is video the future of podcasting? We discuss the rise of video podcasts and what it means for creators and listeners alike. Plus, we'll explore the potential impact of AI on the industry, from Google's NotebookLM to the question of whether AI can ever truly replicate the magic of human connection. We'll also touch on the importance of accessibility, highlighting the "Shaping Tomorrow" podcast's commitment to inclusivity.

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This week the pod-nerds, Jules and Stocks, were worried there wasn't much to talk about. But then along came Megan Markle, Sora and the 'Daddy of all podcasts'. All the big movers and shakers are present - and providing ample fodder for the gents to chew through.

[01:30] Lemonada sign Megan Markle and will publish all Archetypes podcast episodes

[05:20] Brene Brown also leaving Spotify

[06:56] Alex Cooper on the Success of Call Her Daddy

[10:53] YouTube Domination

[17:06] It's been a big week for mindblowing AI - with launch of Sora and Real News Podcast


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This week the pod nerds enjoy a last face-to-face chat before Jules' summer of lerve comes to an end and he returns to frosty Scotland. They approve of the Kelce brothers mobilising the Swifties, they dive into the poorly timed layoffs at Sirius XM, changes to Spotify for Podcasters, what NOT to talk about on podcasts and which Aussie brands are advertising on podcasts.

[00:59] Taylor Swift Fans rig Podcast of the Year

[03:54] Layoffs at Sirius XM

[04:55] Changes to the Spotify Platform for Podcasters

[10:18] Companion Podcast Trend Continues

[13:52] Don't Go There Topics for Podcasters

[16:33] Top Aussie Pod Advertisers


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Much for the pod nerds to talk about in this weeks episode, including Joe Rogan's new podcast deal, Spotifie's Q4 resutls and their new strategy. Plus, start saving for the iHeart Pod Awards and the ultimate true crime recommendation.

In this weeks episode:

[01:37] Joe Rogan and Alex Cooper are no longer exclusive, Spotify Improving their margins & HOW SPOTIFY”S PODCAST BET WENT WRONG

[09:56] The Podwinter continues

[11:29] Triton Podcast Report

[13:42] Acast blocks YouTube

[15:12] iHeart Podcast Awards

[20:21] Podcast Recommendation: Who Killed JFK


What do you think of the Smartless Podcast Deal?

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The lads are back for 2024 with season 5 of Behind the Podcast - distilling and dissecting the biggest stories from the week in tech, podcasting and media.

In this weeks episode:

[00:40] The Smart Money Is on Smartless

[06:04] Amazon and Netflix get into live sport

[11:05] Apple’s download numbers nosedive, The incredible shrinking podcast industry & Spotify spits the dummy

[17:35] Podcasting in the world of AI & Will.i.am AI Partner

[20:50] NPR is hiring again


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It's the last episode for the year so Jules is drinking mulled wine and Stocks is singing carols, but it doesn't look like Spotify will be getting any presents this year. The friends unpack the recent stock sell-off by Spotify ex-CFO Paul Vogel and the future for 'big green', plus some predictions for YouTube and end of year recommendations.

[01:34] Spotify's CFO is out days after mass layoffs, Spotify's former podcast boss calls out the company for setting 'money on fire' with costly celeb deals, The casualties of the podcasting bloodbath

[11:35] Latest Features of YouTube Music

[17:39] How Rap’s Elder Statesmen Took Over Podcasting, TV, and Everything Else

[19:54] Tyler Goodson of ‘S-Town’ Podcast Is Shot Dead in Police Standoff

[21:07] Apple names Wiser than Me Podcast of the Year


Holiday Listening Recommendations

From Stocks: Marc Maron - Taika Waititi

From Jules: The Rest is Entertainment

From Producer Mandy: The New Gurus, Violation, Hooked on Freddie, Rupert: The Last Mogul


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This week's episode is like a small cup of gelato with two scoops - full of flavour and easy to binge. Jules and Stocks jump into the hot topic of Spotify's very fresh lay offs and then serve up the tastiest pod stories of the week including Spotify vs Apple end of year wraps.

[01:09] Spotify lay offs

[06:01] ‘Never too late’: WA cops launch podcast to catch cold case killers

[10:12] NPR names new podcast chief as network seeks to regain footing

[11:54] Spotify vs Apple Wrapped


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In this week's episode, Jules and Stocks breakdown the winners and losers from the recent Australian Podcast Awards. They talk ad-blockers in podcasts and the lack of regulation that still exists in this space, and how optimistic they both are about the opportunities for content creators and podcasters in Australia. Plus, the sad wash up from the Pushkin staff lay offs and how scaling up should not be left to venture capitalists.

[01:23] The Australian Podcast Awards Winners

[09:49] TikTok Cards

[12:15] Auddia Skips Podcast Ads For a Subscription

[17:51] Room For Podcast Growth in Australia and UK

[19:59] Ex Pushkin Employee on Why They Left


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It's another big week in the world of Podcasting and Jules and Stocks have all the goss, including advertising trends in Australia, some AI in podcasting mishaps and fashion advice for the Australian Podcast Awards.

[01:44] Australia’s top podcast advertisers revealed Mumbrella

[06:11] Goodpods removes AI-generated descriptions

[8:23] Pushkin Industries’ Podcast Workers Form Union - Hollywood Reporter and

Malcolm Gladwell’s Media Empire Is Being Torn Apart - Daily Beast

[13:55] Podcast Workers Australia's Freelance Podcast Rate Card

[16:33] Ben Shapiro and the conservative podcasters after his throne - The Verge


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Stocks and Jules get stuck into another chewy episode full of the latest podcast news, along with the usual hot takes and solid recommendations.

Mentioned this week:

[01:28] Spotify Fan Study Report

[10:36] How Apple Shaped Podcasting

[13:38] TikTok integrates with Spotify, Apple and Amazon

[16:46] Top 50 podcast in the US

[21:46] Stocks missed a recommendation from his list in last week's episode (see below)

[23:30] When will podcasts overtake humanity?

Recommendations:

Acquired: Stratchery episode


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This week has Stocks post swim and Jules sipping Scotch by the fire, as they tuck into the biggest Podcasting stories of the week. Plus, we find out the surprising news that Jules is a genuine MAFS fan and the guys give us their 'best podcasts of the year' lists.


Mentioned this week:

[02:21] James Corden strikes deal for new podcast with SiriusXM

[05:07] Trevor Noah is NOT going to create an echo chamber

[06:51] Joe Rogan's big Spofify Decision

[14:04] SBS Insight to get its own podcast

[15:08] Directors rewatch their films

[18:17] The Economist Goes Behind a Paywall

Recommendations:

Stocks and Jules Best Podcasts of the Year

NEWS

(S) The Rest is Politics

(S) This Week on the Internet

(J) Podlitical

KNOWLEDGE & EDUCATION

(S) Acquired

ENTERTAINMENT

(S) Culture Club

(S) Mamamia Out Loud

(S) The Watch

(J) Search Engine

(J) The Drop with Osman Faruqi

SPORT

(S) 6 Trophies

(S) No Laying Up

(J) The Pool Room with Tony Armstrong

(J) Owned with Rex Chapman

TRUE CRIME/ SCRIPTED

(S) Sherlock and Co

(J) Scamanda

(J) The Kinahans

GUILTY PLEASURE

(S) Heavy Hands

(J) McCartney: A Life in Lyrics


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This week it's coffee for Stocks and red wine for Jules as they settle in for a long chat about the state of play in podcasting this week (with a small side of NBA musings). Brittany has been on high rotation for Stocks, we get inside info on how TikTok is taking on YouTube and the lads get fired up about what not to put on your 'best of' end of year podcasting lists.

Mentioned this week:

[03:16] The Brittany Spears Audiobook (find on Spotify Premium) and the meme that has gone viral from it.

[08:11] This app is making podcasts more TikTokable

[15:15] Why Wondery is so successful

[22:08] Fair Enough on Nan's Favourites on how they were cancelled by Spotify

[23:07] What is the Optimal Number of Ads in an Audio Ad Break?

[25:25] Don't put these podcasts on your end of year lists. Just don't.


Recommended:

Audiobook: The Moon's a Balloon David Niven

Nan's Fav's - Ep 28 Lachlan Fairbairn: Getting His Podcast Cancelled.


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As Jules settles in to Scottish life and a reduction in sunlight, Stocks prepares to jump on the Fast TV train. This week the pair discuss some big new podcasts on the way and the most significant podcast new of the week, including Apple's change in download data collection and Spotify's promising financial outlook.

Mentioned this week:

[02:20] Mia Khalifa ‘dropped from Playboy podcasting deal’ after Israel-Palestine comments

[05:27] Jon Stewarts Show on Apple is Ending

[07:47] Apple considers selling ads on original shows

[09:33] Apple’s latest iOS update could have a big impact on podcast downloads

[11:39] Wondery launches three podcast FAST channels on Amazon Freevee

[15:35] Suge Knight Launching ‘Collect Calls’ Podcast From Prison

[18:43] Spotify Reports Second Quarter 2023 Earnings

Podcasts to Look Out For:

WWE Hall of Famer The Undertaker to launch podcast

The latest from the makers of Serial - The Kids of Rutherford County


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With Jules still settling into his new digs in Scotland, Stocks grabs the reins and brings in Spotify's Content Partnership Lead, Prithi Dey for a chat all things 'Big Green'. If you're a podcast creator who wants to know how to get noticed and hear what genres are trending on Spotify this episode is for you.


Podcast Recommendations and Mentions:

Sweet Bobby

Serial

Endless Thread

RadioLab

Today in Focus

The Daily

Prithi's guilty pleasure listen - Toni & Ryan

Conviction

Children in the Pictures


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The intercontinental eepisodes of Behind The Podcast have begun, as Jules settles into a cold attic somewhere in the hills of Scotland for the foreseeable future. This week Jules and Stocks discuss the continuing fallout of podcast consolidation, some exciting new podcasting tech, the strategic move to offer audiobooks by Spotify and more.


[00:47] Podcasting’s fallout continues, Pushkin restructures - job losses, The Athletic cuts down on Sports podcasts

[08:26] Keet: the future of podcasting with P2P innovation powered by Tether

[12:42] This New Portable Studio From Austrian Audio Makes Great Podcasting And Recording Simple

[16:12] AI making it easier for podcasters to sound more polished

[17:57] As podcasting grows so does co-listening

[20:34] Spotify is giving paid subscribers 15 hours of audiobook listening per month


Recommendations this month:

The Rewatchables: ‘Toy Soldiers’ With Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt

The Voice Podcasts:

The Squiz

The Daily Aus

The Guardian Podcast

The Voice Referendum Explained - ABC Listen


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This week in the pod-cave Jules and Stocks invite an avid listener of BTP to wax lyrical about all things podcasts. Super-fan, Jimmy Mack, joins Stocks and Jules to chat about discovery, their favourite podcasts and their consumption habits.


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It's a sad day in the studio today as Jules and Stocks enjoy the last face-to-face episode before Jules packs a haggis into his sporran and moves to Scotland. Today the lads chat about the latest tech developments, biggest movements and most interesting players in the ever-changing world of podcasting.

Mentioned this week:

[01:25] Apple becomes your all-in-one destination for audio

[04:00] Podcasting’s No. 1 Agent Now Copes With Crash of Market He Hyped

[12:44] Spotify using AI to imitate podcast hosts’ voices in different languages

[17:35] Meghan Markle Bids Adieu To 'Archetypes' Podcast, Withdraws Trademark Request

[19:21] Sarah Silverman signs with Lemonada - leaving Kast


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In the penultimate face-to-face recording for Jules and Stocks, ahead of Jules moving permanently to sunny Scotland, the pair dive deep into what will undoubtedly be the biggest podcast story of 2023 - the fall of Kast Media - and the podcasters who paid the price.

Read more about the downfall of Kast Media:

A Fight Over Missing Ad Money Roils the Podcast Industry

Why everyone in the podcast world is mad at Kast Media

Exposing a Podcast Scam

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In this week's edition of 'not your average podcast about podcasts' - Jules and Stocks discuss the latest from podcasting powerhouse Mamamia, Future podcasting forecasts, Podcasts appearing on in-flight channels and Spotify's talk circuit of damage control.

Mentioned this week:

[00:44] Mamamia Upfront Shows the Econonic Power of Women

[08:08] Podcasting: Recent trends and future goals #RDA23

[13:57] Podcasts on Delta Airlines as Tweeted by @AlbanBrooke

[19:36] Spotify CFO Touts AI DJ, Podcasting “Evolution”: “We Are Signing Deals Differently


Producer Mandy's recommendation:

Revisionist History: Doctors, Guns and Money

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A lubricated Stocks and a determinedly abstinent Jules bring you the hottest news from the podcast world, including the new (old) kids on the block and Spotify's big risky podcast gamble.

Mentioned this week:

Late-Night Hosts Switch To Podcasting To Fund Out-Of-Work Staff

Spotify’s $1 Billion Podcast Bet Turns Into a Serial Drama

Spotify is reportedly limiting ad payouts for white noise podcasters

The nonstop podcast listeners are on to something


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Behind The Podcast comes from the coffee capital of Australia this week. Jules has been given the week off, so Stocks and the Head of Podcasts at DM - Cameron Muller - tackle the big podcast stories of the week.

Mentioned This week:

[00:41] How Podcasting in China Became A Symbol of China's Gen Z Feminist Movement, Platforms in China 

[07:19] Podcast Movement 2023: the good, the bad, the uneventful


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No-one is hung over today HUZZAH! Which means our sport-loving pod-nerds can dive deep into the interesting developments into the world of sports podcasting. Plus a comprehensive list of the movers and shakers right now in the podcasting landscape and some of their 'podcasting pet peeves'.


[00:45] Amazon Plucks Ex-ESPN Talent As It Pushes Further Into Sports

[12:52] The 40(ish) Most Important People in Podcasting in 2023 and

Bill Simmons, Alex Cooper, Emma Chamberlain and 36 More on The Future of Podcasting

[18:36] Linkfire Expands To Podcasting with Powerful Marketing Toolkit Built for Podcasters


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Not even a hangover and national football loss can keep our pod-nerds down. In today's dusty episode, a valiant Jules and Stocks discuss the 'Spotify Exclusive' experiment, the latest from the Podcast Ranker, the latest merger and other interesting podcast stories from the week.

Mentioned this week:

[00:45] An integration between spotify and patreon has been announced

[03:54] How a ‘poodunnit’ podcast about a wedding’s dirty secret went viral

[06:30] Podcast Ranker: ARN and SCA battle for podcast supremacy heats up

[07:44] Spotify ends more exclusive licensing podcast deals

[10:52] More Mergers


Recommended this week:

Who Shat On The Floor At My Wedding


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Jules and Stocks put their big ol' nerd brains together for another episode dissecting the podcasting and tech news from the past week. In this week's yarn the long awaited TikTok podcasting could be a a monster success for the platform, huge podcaster, Alex Cooper's expansion with her own network set to launch, and the big money, big potential of sport's betting and podcasting.

Mentioned this week:

[00:47] Tiktok-has-been-testing-full-length-podcasts

[05:54] Call Her Daddy’s Alex Cooper is starting her own podcast network

[10:03] ESPN Shoves Barstool From Penn Sports-Betting Pact and Back to Founder Dave Portnoy

[13:27] CoHost Debuts Advanced Audience Demographics for In-Depth Podcast Listener Analysis

[15:28] Why some publishers are reducing their podcast slate to try to grow their audio businesses


Recommendations this week:

[17:05] Owned - with Rex Chapman

[20:02] The Kinahans


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This episode sees Stocks very excited to dig out his cowboy boots and get to the rodeo, but not before he and Jules put their heads together to catch up on this week's podcasting news.

Mentioned this episode:

(01:00-08:16) Warner Music creating in house podcast network

(08:18-10:33) Marvel cuts in-house podcast team in half amidst Disney layoffs

(10:38-12:41) 4 out of 5 people will skip podcast ‘radio style’ ads

(12:44-15:12) The Kids podcast listeners report

(15:13-17:23) Radio, not podcasts, rules the car: Edison Research

(17:26-21: 27) After the Podcast Gold Rush, Is Audio Too Corporate to Be Cool?


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In this episode the pod nerds, Jules and Stocks, take a mighty helping from the Spotify news smorgasbord, discuss the writers and actors strike and how it's impacting the podcasting world, and muse whether the Twitter alternative 'Threads' has longevity.

Mentioned this week:

Spotify Eyes Younger-Skewing Podcasts, Q2 Subscribers Jump, Losses Widen 

Spotify Podcasts' High-Growth Era is Probably Over 

Spotify loses out on £34m after podcasting 'write offs' with high-profile contracts including Harry and Meghan

Actors’ Strike Leaves Celebrity Podcasts in Grey Zone

How Podcasting Is Changing Teaching and Research


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The nerd-bros are back and they are learning, and sharing. In this week's episode they rankle the Australian podcast ranker, chat about the results from Mumbrella's Podpolls and eagerly await Paul McCartney's new upcoming podcast. Plus they give loads of recommendations so you, too, can learn and share the podcast love.

Mentioned this week:

The Australian podcast Ranker June 2023

Mumbrella 360's Podpoll results 2023

Pushkin Announces Paul McCartney Podcast


Jules recommends:

Quick Smart ABC Podcasts

TED Talk Daily

Patented: History of Inventions

Instant Genius BBC Podcasts

Stocks recommends:

Joe Pomp Show

New York Times The Daily

Stratechery

Huberman Lab

The Imperfects Podcast

High Performance Podcast

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Fresh back from holidays Stocks is reunited with his buddy, Jules, and there is podcasting news galore! Find out what Stocks listened to while he was travelling, what's got the sector rumour mill turning and how Hollywood is inadvertently helping the podcast industry.

Mentioned this episode:

Bradley Cooper makes a deal with iHeartmedia

TV Eyes Podcasts' Profit Potential Despite Content Spending Pullbacks

Lamborghini Just Launched a New Podcast

Apple to provide individual episode artwork … finally

Cohn Has Left Spotify and Been Named Westwood One SVP, Sales & Digital Partnerships

Pocket Casts Wear OS App

Stitcher Is shutting down

Tony Abbott Former PM Has a Podcast with His Ex Key Advisor Peta Credlin

Gary Lineker and his Goalhanger teammates on their podcast empire

‘Like Nothing Else You’ll Ever Hear’: the 20 Best Podcasts Ever - From The Guardian

Twitter vs Threads


Recommended:

The Rest is Politics

Match Of The Day: Top 10

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Jules and producer Mandy chat again this week as Stocks is STILL on holidays! This week a shout out to the original storytellers, as it's NAIDOC Week and there are so many fantastic Indigenous podcasts to discover. Plus a deep dive into the state of podcasting in Australia from the big wigs in the game and Brad Pitt's production company announces it's going to focus on audio.

Mentioned this week:

Long Read - Podcasts, a hot advertising medium Adnews, by Ruby Derrick 

The most handsome man in Hollywood turns to podcasts 


Recommended:

Word Up ABC podcast

Frontier War Stories By Boe Spearim 

The Retrievals

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With Stocks still on leave, producer Mandy joins Jules in the studio for this episode to unpack the most up to date news in the world of podcasting. We also hear enlightening insights from the whole DM podcast crew on what makes a compelling podcast host.

Mentioned this week:

How Spotify’s podcast plan went off the rails - The Verge

Chris Dawson from The Teacher's Pet Podcast Found Guilty Again

YouTube 2023 Culture and Trends Report

New Kids Podcast Platform Launches

What’s Next in Podcasting with Max Cutler

Australia leads the world when it comes to podcast listening

International Women’s Podcast Awards


Recommendations This Week:

Jules Recommends

The Louis Theroux Podcast & How To Fail with Elizabeth Day

Mandy Recommends Stiffed

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This week Head of Podcasts at DM, Cameron Muller, jumps on with Jules to unpack all the podcasting news of the week, including Harry and Megan's royal departure from Spotify, the big spenders on podcasting and the big benefits for brands who advertise on them.

Mentioned this week:

Top 15 Brands that spent on Podcasting Ads

Trevor Noah Gets a Spotify Original

New Sub categories and charts for Apple

Headphones Make You More Persuasive

Why Programmatic Ads Are Vital For Podcasting

Why Spotify’s bet on big names like Meghan unravelled

Spotify executive calls Harry and Meghan ‘grifters’ after podcast deal ends

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Stocks has joined the annual winter migration of Australians to Europe, so it's Jules and producer Mandy this week. Plenty to talk about including why Jules has a 'Peppa Pig blackout' in his household, the benefits of pixels for podcast advertisers, why Chat GTP has been banned for iHeart employees and the latest awkward, podcast specific, Elon Musk moment.

Mentioned this week:

Peppa Pig to move to podcasting

The WGA wants to keep film and TV studios from using podcasts as a way to develop new projects

Apple is coming for money transfer and funding apps

Spotify launches ad analytics platform to replace Podsights

Elon is shut down by his favourite podcast

iHeart bans employees from using Chat GPT

Meet the Aussie producer behind Scamanda


Recommended This Week:

Scamanda by Lionsgate

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Jules is croaky and Stocks is antsy ahead of a holiday, but the pod nerds have much to cover this week. Including big sad news from Spotify, the new true crime craze and a great Aussie Podcast recommendation.

Mentioned this week:

Happy Birthday to Podcasting

Spotify Layoffs Are Latest Sign of Struggles in Podcast Business

Recommended This Week:

Scamanda

Believe in Magic

Who the Hell is Hamish

Liar Liar

You Have Been Told a Lie

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Big news from the DM stables this week, with the Betoota Advocate launching a TV series on Paramount+. Jules and Stocks share goss from the podcast world, it all gets very meta for a moment, and Stocks channels his English roots (and accent!) for a chat about Fergie's new podcast. And, nope, not the cool one.

See the trailer for the Betoota Advocate Presents here

Mentioned:

A New Era of Podcast Mergers is Just Beginning - From Bloomberg

The future of podcasts is getting written in print

Comedian Bobby Lee Sues Wondery Over Canceled ‘TigerBelly’ Podcast Contract

Whynow and Verbal Diorama Launch Independent Podcast Awards

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This week the nerdy, but totally good-looking, Jules and Stocks bounce into a huge week of podcast and tech news. From Spotify’s exciting new AI plans, to kids not watching podcasts on YouTube. Plus, they deep dive into companion podcasts (just in time for the last episode of Succession on HBO) and chat about how enriching they can be for the serious series watcher. Jules mentions ABBA for the second week running and Stocks kicks it all off with a heartfelt apology.

Mentioned in this episode:

Spotify is reportedly developing bots to mimic your favorite hosts.

Daniel Eck on the Aquired Podccast

More people are now paying for podcasts in Spotify’s homeland

From the Guardian - How watching TV became a lonely pursuit – and podcasts are rushing to fill that void

Why YouTube is a tough place for kids podcasts

iHeart launches “one of the world’s most technically advanced news podcasts”- Really?


Companion Podcasts mentioned:

The Watch from The Ringer

House of the Dragon from The Ringer

Offical Game of Thrones podcast from HBO

X-Ray Vision

Succession Recap from The Ringer

The Prestige TV Podcast

Recommendations:

Spotify with Daniel Ek on the Acquired Podcast

Taylor Swift on the Acquired Podcast

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As always, this week Jules (and a husky) Stocks cover a plethora of podcasting and tech news - there's 'penetration rates', 'alien probing' and even 'ABBA' gets a mention. If that's not enough to whet your appetite consider this question:

'What's the value of each earlobe?'

Mentioned:

The Podcast Bus Got broken into - Jules has a theory

Peacock's Based on a True Story is about a pair of true crime podcasters a new series from executive producers Craig Rosenberg and Jason Bateman.

The New York Times launched New York Times Audio, an iOS app for subscribers that serves as a one-stop shop for all of its audio journalism.

Podcast penetration rates and other fun data

iHeart launches Ruby, a branded podcast unit

Get live captions in real time on iPhone

2023 IAB Podcast Upfront

The End of Search as you Know it and what that means for podcasting

Tenderfoot is batting above it's weight


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New from Tenderfoot - High Strange

60's Songs that Explain the 90's - Nirvana and the Courtney Love Interview

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With man-flu behind them Jules and Stocks are back with a big episode of podcasting news. The themes of podcast advertising and platform financials continue to weave into this week's discussions, along with prize winning podcasts. Plus, the mystery of who was behind the Joe Rogan AI Experience podcast has been solved. Or has it?

Mentioned:

The IAB Podcast Upfront is a marketplace event designed for brands, agencies, and media buyers to preview the latest and greatest in podcasts today and chase new ad dollars.

Acast have a stable start to Q1 for 2023.

Check if you are eliglible to be paid to listen to an Amazon podcast here

Massive Podcast Networks are struggling to find YouTube audiences

The Slippery Slope of News Podcast Credibility Ratings

The Joe Rogan AI Experience - The Creator is Australian?

Peabody Podcast Award Winners and Pulitzer Winner Gimlet/ Connie Walker for Stolen: Surviving St Michaels

Recommended this week:

Over The Back Fence - Ep 7 Rock Chick Mandy Coolen A Life of Audio

Flipping The Bird: Elon vs Twitter

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Recent birthday celebrations have rendered Jules incapacitated - a sure sign his age is catching up with him. So, in this episode, Stocks is joined by regular guest and DM Head of Production - Xanon Murphy. Xanon is the tech guru at DM and has all the gumpf on the latest Røde releases, but the big news this week is there's a new podcasting Guinness World Record - Huzzah!

Mentioned:

Guinness World Record for the longest audio only live stream

Life: The Battlefield

The Writers Guild Strike in the US and how it may affect podcasting

Podcast listeners will buy apps, the latest from the Podsights Report

iHeartMedia, Inc. Reports Results for 2023 First Quarter

Spotify's Podcast monetisation programs and Ambassador Ads

New Rødecaster Gear perfect for all podcasters

Recommended this week:

The Mugg off featuring Russell Manser from The Stick Up

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Brace yourself, in this weeks episode not only is it Jules's 40th birthday, but Stocks gives them the celebrity AI treatment.

Mentioned:

SBS and LiSTNR partnership

Sirius XM and Oprah Winfrey Network Sign Two Year Deal

Spotify's Quarterly Results

AI used to create the audio in this episode:

Podium

TopMediAI

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Beep Beep! All aboard the Pod Bus - In this weeks episode Stocks and a '1.2x speed' Jules unpack some of the biggest stories in Audio, Tech, AI and Podcasting.

Mentioned:

Dominion's huge defamation win over FOX

A.I. rattles the music world with a 'Fake Drake and The Weekend' song

Podcasts are a trusted source of news and information

Spotify opens Gimlet's podcasts to other platforms

The LA based Podcast Bus Studio

Sports video content for FanDuel TV

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On this week's show Jules and Stocks both have baby brain (albeit for different reasons) and discuss: the exclusive Apple release of a bunch of Baby Shark podcasts, Max (aka HBO Max) has greenlit the ‘SmartLess’ docuseries based on the hugely popular podcast (watch the trailer here), Joe Rogan de-throned from the number 1 spot by YouTube recappers, AI Can Clone Your Favourite Podcast Host’s Voice, the "dumb money" is gone from podcasting and will TikTok's sister app, Lemon8, become an option for podcasters?

Sam recommends The Witch Trials of JK Rowling, Jules recommends Wild Boys

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Behind The Podcast has a new family member this week as Jules and his wife welcome baby no. 2! But there's no time for baby talk there's too much to get through. In this week's show: Life after Spotify for the Obamas, the Libsyn platform is now available in Spanish, The Gracies Award is won by a talented eight year old, Samantha B gets a podcast, a small update on the podcast tab on YouTube, Easter listening for kids, DM Head of Podcasts Cameron Muller gives us the Spotify for Podcasters tea, and there's a Bluey companion podcast called Behind Bluey.

Recommendations: Car Company with Charlee & Willa, Busy Bodies with Mr Snotbottom, The Fact Detectives, 180 Grams - The Teskey Brothers

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Jules and Stocks are reunited this week and have much to discuss. They chat about the hugely influential and popular Serial Podcast which has taken a new twist, NPR cancels podcasts and grapples with it's future, Slate teams up with YouTube, the huge podcast listenership (and opportunities) with Spanish speaking audiences, Spotify has barely touched it's 'Diversity Fund', Amy Poehler's new pod, Julia Louis-Dreyfus's new pod, and they unpack the various ways to (safely) listen on your commute.

Recommendation this week from Jules: Hard Fork

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Stocks is still overseas so Producer Mandy joins Jules to chat about YouTube podcasting, TikTok's demise in the US, Spotify's One Stop Podcasting Shop, the new UX for Spotify's podcasting feed and Chat GPT coming for traditional radio jobs.

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This week Stocks and Xanon report live from Austin Texas where the SXSW festival is in full swing. They needed a David Copperfield-esque magic trick to get to everything, but did manage to catch live podcast recordings, a 'print your own vinyl' activation and much more. The big shock consensus is that TikTok's days in the U.S look over.

Recommendations: Podnews Daily, The Tim Ferriss Show, Pivot

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This week Stocks and Head of Production at DM, Xanon Murphy, report live from the Podcast Movement Evolutions conference in Las Vegas. They report on the big winners at The Ambies (America's version of the Podcast Logies) and the incredible AI tech that will make life easier for pod and vod casters. Oh and they managed to catch a magical experience from David Copperfield too!

Recommendation: The Ambies Podcast of the Year 2023 - Chameleon: Wild Boys

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Jules is about to add a baby to the brood and Stocks is about to head off overseas so it's an emotional chat for the lads today. Nevertheless, they hold it together to discuss how three new podcast publishers are joining the Australian Podcast Ranker, the big predictions for podcast advertising, your new Spotify AI DJ, YouTube launches a multi-language audio feature, Hosts of Bankless Podcast Raising $35M Crypto Venture Fund, and  it's Podcast Summit Season. 

Next week Stocks will report from Podcast Movement Evolutions in Las Vegas

Recommendation: The Coldest Case in Laramie from the NYT and Serial Productions

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This week Jules and Stocks reveal which podcast has a whopping 3 billion downloads, the latest features coming to TikTokify Spotify, the Freakonomics Radio Network teams up with YouTube to add new podcasts as well as hundreds of episodes from the network’s archives, the Best female-hosted and female-run podcasts, Max Cutler steps down at Spotify and will YouTube replace Google Podcasts?

Stuff You Should Know Podcast

Australian True Crime Podcast

Wild with Sarah Wilson Podcast

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This week the pod-nerds, Jules and Stocks unpack: the pressure on Spotify to become a lean machine, a creative take on podcast discovery with Trailer Park: The Podcast Trailer Podcast, Rephonic breaking down the similarities of high-ranking podcasts on each directory, Ice T Has a Podcast Now and Vodcasts are here stay. 

Watch and Listen to: We've Done the MAFS and Chat 10 Looks 3

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In this weeks episode Jules and Stocks chat about Louis Theroux's new exclusive pod deal with Spotify, Patreon Launching a Podcast, Freakonomics Radio Network partnering with YouTube, the unionising of Crooked Media, Jules shares his listening techniques when finding pods and they both have a big old man-gush over Tom Brady who has a new pod coming.

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This week Jules and Stocks explore the new (almost a) trend of political figures staring media companies, the shambolic world of podcast awards, the podcast paid-per-minute experiments, Pushkin's recent staff cuts, a successful and unique podcast merch idea and the exciting social media functionality soon to come to Spotify and it's podcast potential.

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This week Jules and Stocks deep dive into how consolidated feeds work, they talk about TikTok podcasting, the great bone rush inspired by Joe Rogan and kids who are serious about podcasting. Plus the breaking news from earlier in the week about the huge staff cuts at Spotify.

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Happy New Year pod-lovers! The self-confessed 'pod nerds', Jules and Stocks, are back with all the news, predictions and data from the world of tech and podcasting.

In this episode: the slow demise of Google Podcasts, AI voiced podcasts have begun, Donald Trump Jr has a podcast deal for Rumble, European regulators vs. Apple (again), almost half of podcast listeners want video too and will it really be a rough year for podcasting as some are predicting?

Check out: Nick Cave's Chat GPT AI generated lyrics and his response here

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Nerd Alert! Jules and Stocks give you their top listens from 2022 and Super Producer Mandy makes a surprise appearance in the pod cave.

Jules recommends: Plain English, We Didn't Start The Fire, Song Exploder, Instant Genius & Betwixt the Sheets

Stocks recommends: Things Fell Apart, The Mismatch, Diary of a CEO, Dithering & 60 Songs that explain the 90's

Mandy recommends: Chat 10 Looks 3, Death of an Artist, Effin' Hormones, Decoder Ring, Not Past It

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This week Jules and Stocks chat about Apple's end of year list, Podcast advertising year on year growth, IMDb for podcasters, iHeart, NBA Partner For New Show, US top podcast networks, by reach Q3 2022 and just how many podcasts are there?

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This week Jules and Stocks discuss NPR's hiring freeze, Hamish and Andy's new multi-year contract with Listnr, the New Zealand Podcast Awards the Apple Podcast Awards that no-one knew existed and which podcast genres make the most on Patreon.

Listen to: Wellness F*cking Wednesday - nominated for NZ Podcast Award

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This week Jules and Stocks chat winners and highlights from the Australian Podcast Awards, including The Last Outlaws, Baby brain, The Greatest Menace and DM's big win.

Check out Anchor's Audio Enhancements, It's a Sign! and Google Trends about podcasts.

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This week the guys talk about the big news from Acast, who have launched new tech on keyword targeting for podcasts.

Apple are tagging podcasts by topic too all to assist in discoverability and ad targeting. Patreon adds the long awaited video feature and My Dad Wrote a Porno says farewell.

Check out: NurseDot Podcast, Astrology Coach and Jordan Klepper Fingers the Conspiracy

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This week the lads chat about the new data from Magellan AI on Australia's growing podcast ad spending, Jules has a crack at singing the top Australian audio logos off the back of the Audio Logo Index 2022 report (you've been warned), Acast is reporting revenue up but is still not profitable, and the interesting shift from traditional late night comedy shows to podcasting.

Check out: Unapologetically Asian, Case 63, Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend

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Emergency episode to share that Acast and Amazon Music have entered an agreement to bring ad-free podcast listening  to fans and the nominees for the 2022 Australian Podcast Awards are out!

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This week Stocks and Jules dive into subscriptions, how platforms are managing them and what they mean to the consumer. Amazon Prime drops a bombshell, radio warns the podcast industry and the guys chat about how music is now a fundamental way to bring consumers into podcast, streaming and tech ecosystems.

Five insights from Apple to grow your subscriptions

NPR's paid podcast bundle

SBS Rebrands

Check out Zero Waste Baby , Stratechery, How Other Dad's Dad and The Bugle Podcast

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Stocks and Jules dive into the different types of companion and recap pods in the fantasy TV universe, they pick out some podcasting highlights from the ABC annual report, discuss Betoota's trip to Broken Hill and wonder at who the fuck is listening to podcasts on cassette.

Check out Threads by Veronica Milsom, Bedtime Stories with Adam McKay and transcribing for podcasts with Musixmatch

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This week Stocks and Jules chat about all the big news from the world of podcasting including how TikTok plans to take on podcasting, Youtube podcast ad returns and shorts, Spotify's plans to go platinum and Osher Gunsberg is the man to bribe for this years Australian Podcast Awards.

Co-listening data

Em Rata's rip and run and the response from Shameless podcast

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This week Jules and Stocks share noteworthy shows, Joe Rogan falls from the top spot, podcasts have to pay and Spotify trims its catalogue.

Check out noteworthy podcasts: Ben Robert-Smith - The Media, The Prince, Storytown, 

Sex Lies and DM Slides relaunched with new hosts

Podcast Pontifications

Spotify Layoffs

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In this episode Jules and Stocks look at podcast regulation, women's podcasting winners, a new chapter for audio books, Marc Fennell turns a podcast into telly, Kim Kardashian's surprise new podcast plus the good, the bad and the unreliable from the world of podcast data.

Check out:

Effin’ Hormones

Smashing the Ceiling

Atlanta Monster

Cumulus Media and Signal Hill Insights’ Podcast Download – Spring 2022 Report

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Jules and Stocks chat about Marc Maron, the ideal podcast length and the real life consequences of the Serial and Teacher's Pet podcasts.

Marc Maron live shows

The Playlist on Netflix

Nicholas Quah's Article in Vulture

This week's recommendations: Finding Yeezus on YouTube, Finding Yeezus Recap Podcast, Death of An Artist 

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Travis De Vries and Jade Goodwin from Awesome Black Media join Stocks to talk all things podcast. 

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Award Winning Investigative Journalist Kate McClymont goes behind her podcast Liar Liar - Melissa Caddick and the Missing Millions with Jules and Stocks. 

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Jules and Stocks discuss Teachers Pet and the on-going murder case with Chris Dawson, and Streaming services tanking on the stock market recently. 

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Sam Bonser is Executive Producer at the phenomenally success, upstart production company - Producey

He has produced shows including - Dyl and Friends and List Cloggers.

Sam recommends 

The Imperfects

Armchair Expert

Smartless

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Kate is the Founder and MD of Audiocraft an award winning creative podcast agency.

Kate recommends

Dreamy

Here Lies Me 

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Alexei Toliopoulos is the host of 

Finding Drago

Finding Desperado

Total Reboot

Netflix - The Big Film Buffer

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Jules flips the script to interview Stocks about the story behind how they built DM Podcasts on the back of the Betoota Advocate. 

*Stocks was about to go down sick after this podcast, so apologies for the nasal vocals and heavy breathing.

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Nick joins Jules and Stocks to detail his storytelling journey as a podcaster and author.

Podcasts:  A Little Idea: https://nickwasiliev.podbean.com/ The Dropped Kick-Off: https://greenandgoldrugby.com/tag/the-dropped-kick-off/ Tell Me What To Read: https://tell-me-what-to-read-booktopia.podbean.com/ 

Other Links:  Buy When Men Cry: https://booktopia.kh4ffx.net/vLq6j Website: https://www.nicholaswasiliev.com/  

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Super talented producer (and we reckon legitimate podcast hosting talent) Sarah-Jane Adams joins Jules and Stocks this week to discuss how to make it as a podcast producer.

Great chat. 

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Liz Keen and Simon Portus from Headling Productions talk to Jules and Stocks about their podcast The Long Haul

A co-production with Ranieri and Co

They listen to and recommend

The Sterling Affairs

Freakanomics

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Temporaryreveals – in longform stories, podcasts, art and photography – the lives of people who came to Australia seeking refuge, and the laws that entangle them in an endless uncertainty.

Temporary won the Best Current Affairs Podcast at The Australian Podcast Awards. 

Stocks talks to Kara Jensen-MnKinnon and Lauren Martin about how this podcast came together. 

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Australia is a large, remote, and unforgiving land where accidents happen. In the Flying Doctor podcast, Lana Mitchell talks to real patients and their families about mateship, life in the bush, and the role that the Royal Flying Doctor Service plays in servicing rural communities.

Support the RFDS 

Lana listens to and recommends Simply The Jest

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Hayley Flowers & Sophie Lavender host the entertaining and informative Pumped podcast. This is a podcast that explores the challenges of the Fourth Trimester and onwards in Motherhood. Everyone is SO fixated on birth (fair enough, it’s intense) but we unpack EVERYTHING that comes thereafter in a safe, humorous and fun space. Hold onto your Maxi-pads ladies, nothing is off limits!

Jules and Stocks also track the latest acquisitions by Spotify. 

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Motherlode details the cybercrime activities of young hackers, including Julian Assange in the 1980’s and 1990’s in Melbourne. Motherlode is the first original podcast from Ranieri and Co.

Award winning journalist and podcaster Greg Muller is the Creator and host of Motherlode and he talks to Jules and Stocks this episode. The guys also breakdown the suddenly saturated daily news podcast scene and the latest newcomer, ABC News Daily.

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Bad Behaviour is a multi award winning podcast that delves into all things taboo – if it’s an uncomfortable conversation, they want to have it!

(8.10) Bad Behaviour Co-Host Nikila Cranage joins Jules and Stocks.

The guys also discuss the Spotify - Neil Young situation

Nikila listens to 

The BBC Academy Podcast

Unshaming 

How To Fail With Elizabeth Day

Poetry Unbound

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Jules and Stocks return to kick of the 2022 season of BTP, with a recap of the summer, how this show will evolve this year and tease out the next few episodes

Next week - Bad Behaviour - Best Interview 2021

The following week - Temporary - Best Current Affairs 2021

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Christine Mwaturura is the creator, writer, producer and director of Private Affairs, which took out Podcast of the Year, Best Fiction Podcast and was runner up in Best New Podcast at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards.

The judges described Private Affairs as 

“Unique in its delivery, scope, and storytelling. A podcast that deftly uses scripting and subtle sound design to pull the listener into the modern world of dating, sex, love, and parties. The cast and crew have created a must-listen for anyone interested in fictional narrative podcasts. We look forward to seeing what they do next.”

Christine recommends:

The BBC Academy Podcast

Dirty Diana - QCODE Media

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Jules and Stocks briefly breakdown their evening at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards, including DM Podcasts win as Best Publisher or Network.

Congratulations to all the winners 

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Andrew Menczel of Piccolo Studios joins Jules and Stocks to discuss his award winning show Fair Ground F*uckups and how he creates so many successful podcasts. 

Andrew recommends

New Hampshire Podcast

Why Are You Laughing

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Tradies in Business is a podcast created by Warrick Bidwell and Nicole Cox as part of their business of the same name. Tradies in Business provides a wealth of resources to inspire, educate and support you to create your own version of getting off the tools and into your own business.

Waz and Nic have tremendous chemistry and their podcast delivers knowledge in a fun and entertaining way, in big part because of the chemistry of the hosts.

Nic recommends the Casefile podcast

Waz recommends Fundamental Health with Paul Saladino

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Paul Dennett is co-host and producer on the podcast - Cricket Daily a finalist in the Sports Category at this years APA.

This show does what it says on the box, daily conversation about the world of cricket. 

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Paul recommends

The Final Word

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Jules and Stocks talk to Kerry Negara about her podcast series which is a Finalist in the True Crime category at this years APA's. Killing Phar Lap is the first full forensic investigation around the death of the Australian wonder horse Phar Lap, to discover why he was brutally killed, by whose hand and why, at Menlo Park Ranch in California, USA.

Kerry listens to and recommends Unravel Season 4 | Snowball

Tickets are available to this years Australian Podcast Awards 

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Jules and Stocks breakdown the Finalists in this years Australian Podcast Awards.

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Jules and Stocks talk to Publicist Marisa Jayne about her podcast - The Selfish Sesh.

This is a fun conversation about Marisa's personal journey as experienced through her podcast.

Marisa recommends 

Dyl and Friends

Happy Hour with Lucy and Nikki

The Imperfects

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Marlee Silva, Keely Silva and Georgia Moore host Chicks and Balls the sports podcast by women, about more than 'women's sport'. Featuring analysis of the biggest headlines in sports media and conversations with some of Australia's best athletes and sports insiders. 

They live and breathe sports and it really comes through in their show and interviews. 

Georgia recommends - The Daily

Keely recommends - Hamish and Andy Podcast

Marlee recommends - You're Wrong About

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This week the guys talk to Emily Duncan - the host and creator of That's Orgasmic a sex positive podcast that provides a shame free perspective on all things sex. Hailing from regional Victoria, Emily aims to break down the stigmas surrounding sex and provide the tools to create a liberating sexual experience for everyone. 

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Five of My Life is a brilliant podcast format devised by Nigel Marsh. 

This is the most fun Jules and Stocks have had preparing for an interview. 

If you have ever wondered about the importance of a format for your podcast, please listen this conversation with Nigel

Thank you again for all the kind thoughts and comments over the past couple of months, muhalo.

Nigel recommends 

Loose Ends 

Sombrero Fallout

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Stocks is back to run through the last few weeks. The guys discuss grief and the content they have been consuming. 

Normal service resumes next week. 

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This is one of our most popular episodes. Hopefully resume normal service next week.

The Genius of Just the GIST is the relationship between the two hosts.

We really enjoyed our conversation with Rosie Waterland and Jacob Stanley of the highly entertaining and informative podcast, Just The GIST - which took out The Best Entertainment Podcast at The Australian Podcast Awards 2020

Premise of the podcast

Famous scandals, true crime, celeb dramas, conspiracy theories, politics, amazing people throughout history... If it's an incredible story, hilarious hosts Comedian Rosie Waterland and Jacob Stanley will tell you about it without bogging you down with any of the boring bits. You'll get just the gist of what you need to know - only get the juiciest, most entertaining details

Rosie listens to:

CBC - My Favourite murder

You’re Wrong About

Jacob listens to:

No Such Thing as a Fish

Decoder RIng

A Rational Fear

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A bit going on this week. Here is a classic episode from the BTP archives with the phenomenal Dylan Buckley of Dyl and Friends and List Cloggers fame.

Stay safe friends. 

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Julia Wheeler is a Champion Freediver, Filmaker, and conversationist. She sits down with Jules and Stocks to discuss her podcast The Dirt Downunder with Paul De Gelder of Shark Week fame. 

Julia explains how her intuitive decision making process has lead to the creation of this inspiring podcast about the game changers who are striving to protect mother earth and tackle the stigma, rumours and gossip surrounding what conservation actually means.

Julia recommends the Good Bitch podcast

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Jules and Stocks run through  Latest news for DM Podcasts Amazon and Wondery Substacks Podcast Play The Latest Spotify Numbers Some Lockdown Listens The Australian Podcast Awards Entries Are Open

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If you are a podcaster in Australia you have probably come across Acast. They are one of the major platforms in the Australian Podcast space. This ep Guy Scott-Wilson the Content Director at Acast joins Jules and Stocks to talk about Acast and why it might be the platform for your podcast. 

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Jacques Peterson of the fabulous reality TV podcast ‎Unpopular with Jacques Peterson joins Jules and Stocks today to discuss the importance of being authentic to yourself, and how he has successfully built an audience for his podcast in Australian and in the US.

Jacques listens to and recommends

Red Scare Juicy Scoop Breaking Points Useful Idiots Twink Revolution The West Wing Thing

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Glen James of My Millennial Money fame has built a thriving podcast community around the pillars of practical knowledge, money tips and making it fun. 

Glen drops knowledge on how to launch a new podcast and some of the keys to his success. We took more away from this interview than any other in 2021. Great stuff. 

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Glen listens too and recommends

Think Fast, Talk Smart: The Podcast

Making Sense Podcast 

The Joe Rogan Experience

Strong Songs

Inside the Big Day Out

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A real treat we are joined by Australian podcast royalty - The infectiously fun and brilliant - Alexei Toliopoulos 

Best known of his podcasts

Finding Drago

Finding Desperado

Total Reboot

The Big Film Buffer

We run though Alexei's journey from standup to podcast professional.

What makes a great hosting partnership 

How to sell and not sell a joke and much more

Alexei recommends these recap podcasts

That's Messed Up

Taling Sopranos

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Jules and Stocks discuss remote recording and the RiversideFM experience.

Stocks discusses influencer marketing and their partnership with Born Bred

This is what Jules and Stocks have been listening too:

British Podcast Award Winners 2021

The Daily

The ABC News Background Briefings

Unravel Juanita

Michael Cane: Gangs

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Jack Cresswell started his aptly named podcast - Farms Advice during lockdown while living in the UK with a budget of 100 pounds.

His story is everything we love about podcasts: Using technology to serve a remote community Niche Audience of 300k+ farmers Self improvement journey for the podcaster and the audience Educate and entertain

Jack listens to and recommends:

Generation AG

Profitable Farmer Podcast

Marketing School with Neil Patel & Eric Siu

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Lit Poetry is a personal favourite of Stocks. This week we talk to James Laidler, Script writer, Web designer, Video editor, Sound designer & Educational Host

This podcast makes poetry fun and educational.

James recommends

Philosophy bites

The Daily Poem

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Matt Bevan is the insightful host of the popular and important ABC podcast - China If You Are Listening. Now in its 3rd iteration (Russia If You Are Listening, America If You Are Listening) and 5th season.

Matt breaks down their production process, the brains trust they use for feedback and to remove bias, plus how they plan out seasons and book high profile guests.

We learned a lot on this one.

Matt Listens to and recommends

The Little Red Podcast

Rabbit Hole

He is also a fun follow on Twitter

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Jules and Jodes are the hosts and creators of the Good Bitch Podcast. They are two hilarious, sassy millennials helping you and their loyal audience - The GB's - navigate this shitstorm called life.

At first glance Good Bitch seems to be a podcast about 2 BFFs and their dating life,..but it is so much more than this, as Jules and Stocks find out in this episode.

Jules and Jodes listen to and recommend

The Deep

After Work Drinks

Call Her Daddy

Bad Friends

No Filter

We The Wild Ones

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A real treat this episode - The Wandering Journo Nance Haxton is a prolific podcaster and Walkley award winning journalist.

Nance Haxton drops in to chat with Jules and Stocks about her unique and brilliant podcast 'Streets of Your Town'

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Nance listens to and enjoys

The guilty feminist

Betoota Advocate

Ladies we need to talk

Planet Maynard

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We speak to the larger than life, Renae Rocket Bretherton, one of the stars of the Birds Eye View podcast.

This is the second part of our 2 part series on Birds Eye View which was the Podcast of the Year in 2020

If you haven’t listened to pt 1 with Johanna, feel free to give that a listen after this. 

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Rocket listens to and recommends the Life Jolt Podcast

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A quirk in our interview schedule means that Jules and Stocks have had a couple weeks break from listening to podcasts for preparation and have just been enjoying some podcasts, Here are our favourites.

60 Songs That Explain The 90s

Still Processing

Death At The Wing

Becky and Cam Hotline

You're Wrong About

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Birds Eye View is the podcast of 2020.

It is such an important piece of content that we will be dedicating 2 episodes to going behind this podcast.

In part 1 we talk to Johanna Bell an award winning writer and creative director of Story Projects a creative production house in Darwin that specialises in strengthening communities through storytelling.

Johanna shares the story of getting this project funded, the challenges of production in a correctional facility and her 'creative collaboration' process.

Birds Eye View Description

What's it like to be a woman in a man's prison? Find out with BIRDS EYE VIEW, the first podcast made by women in the Darwin Correctional Centre.

Johanna Listens to and recommends

This Jungian Life

Dad to Me

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The power and of audio storytelling and the advantages of working in audio with Patrick McGinley - a successful, tv writer, author and podcaster.

Patrick spent 16 years creating Destination Earth a sci-fi audio drama which one best fiction podcast at The Australian Podcast Awards

“A sonic cinematic masterpiece - an amazing listening journey for ears of all ages!” - Australian Podcast Awards

Patrick listens to and recommends

Script Notes - Episode 73 Raiders of the Lost Ark

Art of the Score

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Recap culture is one of the huge trends of the past decade. Podcast recaps are now at the forefront of this space. This episode we talk to Fiona Williams - Managing Editor SBS Movies, Guide & Homepage, and host of the Award Winning SBS Podcast - Eyes On Gilead. The podcast companion to the incredible Handmaid's Tale TV Series and book by Margaret Atwood.

Fiona also hosts The Playlist podcast an entertainment podcast from SBS Australia, with Ben Nguyen which explores the movies and TV shows that are worth your time.

Fiona listens to and recommends

Do You Need A Ride

This American Life

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Curveball - The Club You Didn't Want To Be A Part Of - Won Best Wellbeing Podcast at The Australian Podcast Awards. This is one of the best podcasts I have had the pleasure of listening to.

Curveball is described as;

“A show that covered important topics discussed in a non-judgemental, interesting and highly engaging manner.”

Host and creator Beth Armstrong is a natural story teller who is also a successful director, filmmaker and TVC creator who has created a podcast which tackles taboo subjects in a way that is disarming, authentic and intimate, while not losing perspective of its sense of humour.

Partnering with Luke at Unison Sound, they have created a safe space for three anonymous people from the same club to discuss anything from Growing up in and Escaping a Cult, to Mid-life sexual awakening and Parent of a transgender child.

Beth recommends and listens to:

Modern Love Podcast - The New York Times

The Moth

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The Sure Thing has captured the imagination of the Australian podcast audience over the past couple of months. Host and award winning investigative journalist Angus Griggs, joins us to discuss how he and producer Lap Phan brought this incredible podcast to life.

Angus listens to and recommends these podcasts:

Power: The Maxwells

The Missing Cryptoqueen

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Dan Ilic and the A Rational Fear Podcast have been entertaining while educating Australians about Climate Change, since 2012.

Winner of the 'Best Comedy' Podcast at the 2020 Australian Podcast Awards.

Originally a live show, A Rational Fear is now a weekly podcast with 'The Greatest Moral Podcast of Our Generation' appearing on the same feed monthly.

Dan has also helped give a leg up to and mentor an incredible array of Australian comedic talent.

Dan Listens to and Recommends the Broriginals Podcast Has a fellowship with the Bertha Foundation Uses Streamyard

You can get involved with A Rational Fear and Dan via

Pateron

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Twitter

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Elissa Ratliff - Head of Podcasts at Mama Mia breaks down her journey from NSW Country, to intern at Mama Mia, to running one of Australia's most influential and successful podcast networks. Fascinating insights behind the scenes at Mama Mia, and how they make it all happen.

Elissa listens to

Sentinmental In The City

Even The Rich

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The Queen of Tea - Megan Pustetto joins us to discuss the story behind her sensational hit podcast - So Dramatic!

Megan is the scourge of TV producers because week after week Megan breaks and breaks down all the latest celeb scandals from the world of Australian Reality TV.

She breaks down her approach to sources and interviews how her diverse media career prepared her for podcasting the process behind making an episode growing the audience via PR and Socials why her show is unique

Really fun and informative chat. As Megan says, 'So much drama, so little time!'

Follow So Dramatic!

Instagram

Facebook Group

Patreon

Megan listens to:

Unpopular with JP

Call Her Daddy

Sofia with an F

Super Soul Sundays

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David Callan aka Frosty is the man behind the internationally acclaimed I Spied live comedy show, and along with Michelle Stephenson hosts the I Spied Podcast.

Live shows are coming back in 2021. But I Spied was a live comedy show which is now a successful weekly podcast, which may have a 3rd life as a live podcast.

The I Spied Podcast Elevator Pitch

What is ASIO? I’m sure you’ve all heard of it, but do you really know what it does? Is it as sexy as James Bond leads us to believe or is it just part of the political fabric? Who better to give us the ins and outs than ex-ASIO-spook-come-comedian DC Callan and National News Director at Nova and journalist Michelle Stephenson

DC recommends these podcast

Huberman Lab

David Tennant

BBC Elements

Irrational Fear

Free to a good home

Cosmic vertigo

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Cameron James is a stand up comedian and one of the most successful podcasters in Australia. He appears across a range of podcasts including Total Reboot - A Film Podcast with Alexei Toliopoulo‪s‬ The Becky and Cam Hotline - A comedic advice show with Becky Lucas Finding Desperado and Finding Drago - 2 seasons of investigative mystery podcasts with Alexei Toliopoulos

Each podcast is radically different from the other, yet on all of the Cam partners with one of his great friends to create incredible podcasts. We have a chat to Cam about these relationships and how they differ, and how they work.

Essential listening if you have the 'original' concept of hosting a podcast with a friend.

Cam enjoys listening to

One Heat Minute Podcast

99% Invisible

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Great chat with Veronica Milsom, creator or the Zero Waste Baby podcast series on Podcast One.

Here is the description for Zero Waste Baby

Comedian Veronica Milsom is a mum on a mission to reduce her tiny newborn's massive waste footprint. Hoping to ward off the impending environmental apocalypse, Veronica has to find alternatives to using any of the wonderfully convenient disposable products that make modern day parenting possible, like nappies, wet wipes and store-bought baby creams, for the first 3 months of her baby’s life. Spoiler This series involves reusing afterbirth, leaky cloth nappies, poo-catching and plenty of sleepless nights. 

Veronica recommends

Congrats on the new...

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Niche audience and live shows.

2 buzz phrases in podcasts these days.

7 years ago Dragon Friends began as a podcast built around one of the biggest sub-cultures in the world (Dungeons and Dragons) in the format of a live stage show recorded monthly and cut into 2 x podcast episodes,

Seems they knew what they were doing.

Jules and I went into this with no clue about D&D, but a love for improv comedy, and were blown away by what Edan and the team have built, including touring the show internationally (in simpler times)

Edan recommends and listens to

You Made It Weird

The Treatment

Tim Ferris Show

BAFTA - Charlie Kauffman Screenwriting Lecture

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Featuring Neroli Meadows of the insightful and heartwarming, Ordineroli Speaking - which was the winner of the Best Sports Podcast at The 2020 Australian Podcast Awards.

As Australian’s, we tend to place our sports players on a pedestal and sometimes forget that they are actually people. Neroli creates a safe space where these elite athletes can open up and share stories about overcoming resilience on their journey to excellence.

Neroli Listens to:

Shameless

Wilosophy

The Howie Games

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The Genius of Just the GIST is the relationship between the two hosts.

We really enjoyed our conversation with Rosie Waterland and Jacob Stanley of the highly entertaining and informative podcast, Just The GIST - which took out The Best Entertainment Podcast at The Australian Podcast Awards 2020

Premise of the podcast

Famous scandals, true crime, celeb dramas, conspiracy theories, politics, amazing people throughout history... If it's an incredible story, hilarious hosts Comedian Rosie Waterland and Jacob Stanley will tell you about it without bogging you down with any of the boring bits. You'll get just the gist of what you need to know - only get the juiciest, most entertaining details

Rosie listens to:

CBC - My Favourite murder

You’re Wrong About

Jacob listens to:

No Such Thing as a Fish

Decoder RIng

A Rational Fear

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This episode Leah Harris - Spotify Australia and New Zealand - Creative Producer for Podcasts

Leah is very much behind the podcasts that you’ve no doubt been listening to or through if you’re using the Spotify.

We discuss: Her mission to champion unique Australian voices and get them the recognition they deserve. What makes a Spotify Original v Exclusive What she looks for in an original podcast

Leah listens to and recommends

Dying for Sex

Recaps with Mish and Zach

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This episodes we switch it up and go behind the Behind The Podcast podcast and tell you a bit about how this show came together and what we have learned so far.

Jules enjoys and recommends

The Rewatchables

Not Hear to Make Friends

Hello Sport

The Betoota Advocate Podcast

Antony enjoys and recommends

Finding Desperado

The Litpoetry Podcast

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Denan Kemp is the man behind Bloke In A Bar. The phenomenally successful podcasts, beer and social media channels. This episode Denan takes us through the tales of How he single handedly built it all His successful approach to leveraging each of these 3 elements to grow one another  The plan for the next 12 months

Here are some of the ways you can enjoy Bloke In A Bar

Podcast

Beer

Facebook

Instagram

Website

Denan Listens to

Hello Sport

Sam Harris

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This ep your guests are Bryce Leske and Alec Renehan - the founders of Equity Mates Media.

Equity Mates is Australia's Number 1 Investing Podcast For Beginners. No Bullsh*t, No Jargon. Delivered In Layman's Terms.

This episode we learn how Bryce and Alec went from recording their podcast on a single usb mic on a back veranda to becoming full time podcasters, with an audience of over 350k downloads per month. Highlights include: Don't be afraid to tinker with the format and structure of your show The importance of perseverance and consistency for podcast success The key moments on their journey Finance and investing can be fun How to tell your boss about your podcast

*Full disclosure we have worked with Equity Mates for a couple of years

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Podcast

Facebook

Instagram

Alec Listens to

Invest Like the Best

Pod Save America

Betoota Advocate

Hello Sport

Bryce Listens to

Australian Investors Podcast

Hamish and Andy

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Richard Baker is one of Australia's finest investigative journalists and podcasters for Fairfax.

He gives great insights into his 'Golden Rules' for making series like The Last Voyage of the Pong Su, Phoebe's Fall and Wrong Skin.

The Last Voyage of the Pong Su was nominated for Best True Crime Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards

Follow Richard on Twitter

Richard listens too these podcasts

Script Notes

The Daily

ABC Cricket Coverage

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Today we’re talking to Paul Cochrane about his moving and important podcast, Childers

So many of the people we speak to talk about the importance of finding a subject that’s close to you and this story was very close to Paul. 20 years ago he had his first assignment as a journalist covering the arson attack of the Childers Hostel in Queensland which claimed the lives of 15 backpackers.

It is an incredible achievement for a first time podcast, including being a finalist in the Australian Podcast Awards

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Facebook Group

Paul listens to these podcasts

Who the Hell is Hamish

Catch and Kill

Howie Games

AFL Fantasy Podcast with The Traders

Betoota Advocate

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Marc Fennell is one of the hardest working people in Australian media and trying to tie him to just one show is near impossible. We are lucky enough to get an hour of Marc's time where we discuss: How he pitches his shows to organisations like Audible and ABC The Importance of a 'North Star' to your podcast Putting Himself at the centre of his story His production and post production process and approach

Marc's Audible Original, Nut Jobs was nominated for Best True Crime Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards

Follow Marc on Twitter and Instagram

Check out Marc's incredible range of projects here

Marc listens too these podcasts

In Vogue - The 90s

Bang On

The Town That Didn't Stare

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What the hell is an podcast Executive Producer and what do they do?

This episode we are joined by one of the best - Ian Walker the Executive Producer and the brains behind one of Australia’s most successful podcast franchises - Unravel.

Unravel Season 4 - Snowball just won Best True Crime Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards

Podcasts like Homecoming are seen as trailblazers in terms of podcasts becoming TV shows, but you can make the case the Unravel series is truly groundbreaking. Originally pitched as 2 seasons of TV and 3 seasons of podcast.

Here is the website with all things Unravel Season 4 - Snowball

We highly recommend giving the trailer a listen.

Ian listens to and recommend the following podcasts

Heavyweight

The Bugle

No Such Thing As A Fish

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True Crime is the most popular podcast genre in Australia.

Over the next 5 episodes we talk to 4 of the finalists in the True Crime Category, to try and understand what forms True Crime Podcasts take, and why people love them.

This episode we talk to Dr Benjamin Nickl (Cultural Studies Professor at the University of Sydney), and explore why True Crime is so popular.

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When we started behind the podcast part of our excitement was getting the story behind some of the biggest podcasts around, but what really piqued our interest was talking to the smaller, independent podcast creators. 

There are none better than the team behind - In My Country - Adam Wood and Pia Perversi-Burchall.

We hear a lot about refugees & asylum seekers, but not often do we hear from the people themselves. In My Country tells these stories so effectively that they won Best Interview at the 2020 Australian Podcast Awards for their episode Alyas which we recommend as a great place to jump into the series.

Follow In My Country

Spotify

iTunes

Facebook

Instagram

Website

Pia and Adam Listens to and recommend the following podcasts

Heavyweight

Silent Waves

Shoes Off

Birds Eye View

Frontier War Stories

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One of the great things about the medium is that once in a while, you get one that makes a difference.

The Wigs is one such podcast. 

This episode we talk to Jim Minns the producer of the Wigs podcast. 

Jim is a career storyteller creating feature films being the videographer for people like Jacinda Arden.

The Wigs is a monthly podcast exploring and interrogating contemporary legal issues in and out of the courtroom. 

The first and only podcast (so far) featuring practising barristers talking shop. Each episode they deep dive into the scenarios and outcomes that make up our legal system.

One such scenario was the BLM protests in Sydney in mid 2020

If you want to try out an episode of the Wigs. We recommend this episode

Follow the Wigs on

Spotify

iTunes

Facebook

Twitter

Jim Listens to

Rabbit Hole

This American Life

Reply All

Start Up

Check out Jim's feature film Don't Know Daily

And his crowd funded podcast - Arena

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Jay Ooi the talented creator of the Award Winning Podcast - 'Shoes Off' joins Jules and Antony this episode.

Shoes Off is a podcast about the Asian Australian Experience,

Jay is a brilliant storyteller, who produces Shoes Off while holding down a full time career.

Shoes Off won the Silver Award Winner for Best Interview, and was a Nominee for Smartest Podcast at the Australian Podcast Awards 2020

Season 3 of Shoes Off is live now. Check out Season 3 Episode One - Crazy Rich Problematic Faves (and why we still love them)

Jay Listens to

This American Life

Reply All

Business Wars

Switched on Pop

In My Country

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Daily News Podcasts have been the biggest podcast trend in 2020.

This week Ruby Jones the effervescent host of Daily News Podcast - 7am - Winner of Best New Podcast at the 2020 Australian Podcast Awards joins us to discuss: How she and the team at 7am produce 6 episodes of first class audio content each week The challenges of delivering on a deadline during COVID Her experience on the Unravel - Barrenjoey Road Why she gravitated to Podcasts vs TV What it is like working at Schwartz Media

Ruby listens to these podcasts

Home Cooking

It's A Lot

Shameless

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Dylan Buckley sat down with Jules and Antony to discuss the story behind the Dyl and Friends podcast, his transition from the AFL, interning at radio stations, the importance of YouTube and merchandise, and why you need to start your podcast today. Dyl is a hard working bloke, unafraid of asking the right and wrong questions, who is really relishing living in the moment.  Dyl and Friends is a finalist for Best Sports Podcast at the 2020 Australian Podcast Awards. This is not your typical sports podcast, there are no X’s and O’s, recaps or tactics talks,  it is long form 1 on 1 conversations with people in and around professional sports and high performanceBehind The Podcast, brought to you by theAustralian Podcast Awards and is created byDM PodcastsHere are some of the ways you can enjoy Dylan Buckley:Dyl and Friends Podcast | YouTubeList Cloggers Podcast | YouTubeDyl and Friends InstagramDylan Buckley Instagram Dyl recommends these podcasts:

Serial Season 1

The Lighthouse Podcast - Byron Bay

Trace Season 1

Dyl records his podcast on:

Adobe Audition editing software

Zoom H5 Audio Recorder

Shure sm7b Microphones

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Rowdie Walden is the creator and host of Search Engine Sex a Spotify Original Podcast

Search Engine Sex, aims to answer all of your questions about the ins and outs of sex. 

At the 2020 Australian Podcast Awards, Search Engine Sex was nominated for:

BEST SEX & RELATIONSHIPS PODCAST and  BEST INDIGENOUS PODCAST

Starting out as a TV producer, Rowdie entered Spotify’s Sound Up Australia accelerator program in 2018, a boot camp which empowers Australia's First Nations individuals to tell their stories - whatever they may be.

In June 2020 Search Engine Sex launched as part of the first wave of Aussie Spotify Original shows and the second season is set to go live on Spotify on November 23, 2020

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Listen to Search Engine Sex here

Search Engine Sex Instagram

Rowdie recommends these podcasts:

You're Wrong About

The Teachers Pet

I Can't Stop

Search Engine Sex is a Spotify Original

Executive Producer - Leah Harris

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Melbourne duo Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews are the founders of Shameless Media.

In March 2018 they launched the Shameless Podcast, which has gone on to become a cultural phenomenon, and a thriving media empire.

Michelle and Zara sat down with Jules and Antony to discuss the story behind Shameless, from episode one, marketing the show with stickers in uni toilets, the episode which changed everything, managing their influence, leaving their jobs and going full-time plus how they approach each episode. They were incredibly generous with their time and dish up invaluable advice to anyone in podcasting, from two of the most switched on people in the business.

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Here are some of the ways you can enjoy Shameless:

A twice weekly podcast - Shameless - Best Entertainment Podcast 2020

Book club

Facebook Group

Influential Instagram

Love etc Podcast - Finalist Best Sex & Relationship Podcast 2020

The Space Between Book

Zara recommends these podcasts:

The Daily

The Cut

Michelle recommends this podcast:

Dying for Sex

Shameless record their podcast on:

Adobe Audition

They started out using the Scarlet 2i2 Studio audio recorder

Using Blue Yeti Microphones remotely and the Rode Procaster in person

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Welcome to the first episode of Behind The Podcast, brought to you by the Australian Podcast Awards.

This episode Jules and Antony talk to Kate Watson, co-host of and Commercial Director of The Squiz.

The Squiz is your shortcut to being informed. Providing an opinion free take on the news. It is the preeminent daily news podcasts in Australia.

Kate discusses The Squiz is, their values, how they make the podcasts and what they have learned along the way.

Here are all the ways you can enjoy The Squiz

The Squiz Today - A free weekday news podcast with a uniquely Australian take on the news headlines.

Squiz Shortcuts - A weekly podcast which takes a deep dive on single subject from the news.

Squiz Kids - A quick news podcast for curious kids.

Squiz today - A free weekday email with a uniquely Australian take on the news headlines.

Kate recommends these podcasts:

The Inner circle podcast

Digiday podcast

MI3 podcast

The Squiz record their podcast on:

Rode NT USB microphone

Adobe Audition

They record via a phonecall, recording directly in Adobe Audition at each end.

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Coming October 31st

Behind the Podcast is a weekly podcast which dives into the stories behind how some of Australia’s most interesting and successful podcasts are built. 

Each episode we hear from the people behind your favourite podcasts started out, their ups and downs, what they have learned and the process behind how they make their show.

So if you have built a podcast of your own, or even if you just dream about doing one, check out Behind The Podcast 

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