When Women Preach: Recent Episodes
Young Lee Hertig
The podcast, "When Women Preach..." highlights women preachers from API and Latinx faith communities. In order to create a more equal pulpit, we talk about experiences and resources that prepare women of color to preach effectively. Host: Young Lee Hertig Sound Producer: Miriam Cho Music: urmymuse Hosted by ISAAC (Innovative Space for Asian American Christianity) http://www.isaacweb.org/. Part of the PastoraLab project.Institute Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
This conversation pulls back the curtain on why so many AAPI women in ministry still feel unseen—and how ISAAC’s PastoraLab is changing that reality nationwide. Dr. Young Lee Hertig and Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon share 15+ years of stories, breakthroughs, and the powerful moments of belonging that have shaped a new generation of AAPI women faith leaders.
As Giving Tuesday approaches on December 2nd, they invite listeners into a bold vision: a future where Asian American Christian voices are recognized, resourced, and amplified. If you care about representation, church innovation, or lifting up women who have long been sidelined, this episode will challenge you, inspire you, and call you into the work.
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Co-Hosts: Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon & Young Lee Hertig
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Pastor Alex Choi shares hard-won wisdom from planting churches in Los Angeles and serving in Portland, revealing how authentic storytelling and deep listening transformed his ministry. He offers practical guidance on leadership transitions and opens up about leaving behind white-centric theological frameworks and the evangelical "posture-position gap" that hurt people on the back end rather than the front.
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Co-Hosts: Cris Otonari & Young Lee Hertig
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', host Cris Otonari speaks with Reverend Sally Lee about her experiences as a Chinese American faith leader. They discuss the importance of cultural identity in church leadership, the innovative Dinner Church Collective, and the significance of being present in ministry. Sally emphasizes the need for community, the ministry of presence, and centering Jesus in church planting to create thriving congregations.
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Co-Host: Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of When Women Preach, we explore themes of empowerment for AAPI and Latina women in faith leadership, the emotional journey of academic achievement, and the importance of community and friendship in both personal and professional realms. Jennifer shares her experiences transitioning from pastoral ministry to academia, innovative teaching methods that foster intergenerational dialogue. The episode emphasizes the significance of building authentic relationships and the role of friendship in leadership, encouraging listeners to prioritize connection over competition.
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of When Women Preach, Joyce Koo Dalrymple to discuss her upcoming book, Redeeming Eden. The conversation explores the often-overlooked narratives of women in the Bible, emphasizing their crucial roles in redemptive history. Joyce shares insights on how these women's stories can inspire faith leaders today, the importance of understanding gender in biblical contexts, and the need for grace and self-love in the journey of faith. The discussion also highlights the significance of diverse voices in interpreting scripture and the role of male allies in promoting gender equality within the church.
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Joana Choi
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach,' hosts Cris Otonari and Young Lee Hertig engage with Dr. Kay Higuera-Smith, who discusses her extensive research on Mary of Nazareth. The conversation explores the importance of a gynocentric interpretive lens in biblical hermeneutics, the active role of women in the Bible, and the implications of these insights for modern women leaders in faith communities. Dr. Higuera-Smith emphasizes the need to recognize the agency of women in scripture and challenges traditional patriarchal interpretations, advocating for a more inclusive understanding of biblical narratives.
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach,' we engage with Rev. Ajung Sojwal, exploring her transformative journey in faith leadership. Rev. Sojwal shares her experiences in the Episcopal Church, navigating identity, and the importance of peer communities in sustaining faith leaders. The conversation highlights the challenges of being a woman of color in a predominantly white church, the significance of hospitality, and the ongoing journey of creating spaces for belonging and connection within the church community.
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Resources: https://www.isaacweb.org/post/faith-outside-the-lines
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Young & Cris engage with Russell Jeung, a sociologist and long-time advocate for the AAPI community. The conversation explores barriers to leadership, the need for institutional support, and the impact of toxic leadership styles. They emphasize the necessity of systemic change for gender equity and the importance of overcoming scarcity mentality within the community.
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Give to MayforHer: https://givebutter.com/supportpastoralab
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests.
In this episode of When Women Preach, hosts Cris Otonari and Young Lee Hertig engage in a profound conversation with Adam Hendrix about the empowerment of AAPI women in faith leadership. They explore the intersection of art and faith, the challenges of resistance in empowering women leaders, and the importance of allyship in creating inclusive church communities. The discussion also highlights the financial and equity issues faced by women in ministry, the significance of investing in future leaders, and the need for diverse voices in church leadership.
Resources
Highway Church: https://www.highway.org/
Champion AAPI women: https://givebutter.com/supportpastoralab
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach,' we welcome Rev. Phyllis Kim Myung, the newly appointed lead pastor of New City Church in Los Angeles. Phyllis shares her unique journey into ministry, her transition into leadership, and the importance of listening to the church's history and community. The conversation highlights the significance of lamentation in leadership, especially in times of change, and offers valuable advice for new leaders navigating their roles in new church environments.
Resources
https://www.newcitychurchla.com/
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Margaret shares her journey of caring for her elderly parents, emphasizing the dignity and worth of individuals, especially in marginalized communities. She discusses the intersection of caregiving and leadership, the challenges faced by women in leadership roles, and the importance of self-confidence and empowerment. The conversation also touches on navigating life transitions and the significance of self-care and awareness in leadership.
Resources
Apply for PastoraLab | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfk4wq-C6fRn_wpJNK9eifLadEutw2i07pdtFoLUYBUJuNeIQ/viewform
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Florence shares insights on the transformative process of action and reflection, the significance of grace in leadership, and the cultural respect necessary for meaningful connections. The conversation highlights the power of vulnerability and trust in fostering growth and transformation among women leaders in faith communities.
Resources
Apply for PastoraLab | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfk4wq-C6fRn_wpJNK9eifLadEutw2i07pdtFoLUYBUJuNeIQ/viewform
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of 'When Women Preach', Daniel Lee shares his personal journey, the influential women in his life, and his experiences in ministry, emphasizing the need for gender equity and the role of male allies in supporting women leaders. Our conversation highlights the significance of mentorship, the challenges women face in church leadership, and the importance of creating spaces for women to lead and be heard.
Resources
Apply for PastoraLab | https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfk4wq-C6fRn_wpJNK9eifLadEutw2i07pdtFoLUYBUJuNeIQ/viewform
Apply for TCI | https://docs.google.com/forms/u/1/d/e/1FAIpQLSekt2RRP6tmsVKREISUbqkVJ93rTJ7Z-HhuXmgCoLy4e-Nffw/viewform
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode of When Women Preach, Jennifer Jiang shares her journey of returning to active ministry, the launch of her Soul Care ministry, the challenges she faced as a woman in a church that does not traditionally affirm female leaders, and how God has opened up ways for her to navigate through them. The conversation delves into the importance of healing and deliverance in the church, the dynamics of gender in ministry, and the role of intercessory prayer.
Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
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Diane Ujiiye shares her journey as an activist, discussing her experiences with community service, public policy, and the importance of solidarity among marginalized groups. She emphasizes the need for connection, understanding, and generosity in activism, particularly within the AAPI and Latina communities.
Resources
API Rise: https://www.api-rise.org/
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Maila Kue Kim unveils her vision for a creative directory designed to amplify the visibility of Asian American women and expand the church's access to vital resources.
Resources
Asian American PreacHer: https://asianamericanpreacher.com/about/
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Co-Hosts: Young Lee Hertig & Cris Otonari
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Rev. Yena Hwang join us for a conversation surrounding her ordination and explores in depth the stories of the Bible that invokes the question, “why is this story in the Bible? What is it trying to teach us?”
**Please note that this episode contains depictions of violence that some people may find disturbing.
Resources
Yena Hwang | website
Just Brave Enough | www.justbraveenough.com
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Reverend Aneeth Rico Ocegueda shares her faith journey to become a Senior Pastor of her church at the young age of 27. As she faces opportunities and challenges, Reverend Aneeth chooses to learn new things God is showing her for the beloved congregation.
In this episode, we feature guest Katharine Hsiao as she shares what she learned from her mentor, Mary Li Hsu, former Assistant Dean of Yale College and Director of Yale's Asian American Cultural Center, who lived out a life of Sacrifice and love, and Joy as an advocate for Asian American Christians. We are grateful for her support of ISAAC's mission, and we will continue her legacy through PastoraLab and Podcast. You can find more about Mary Li Hsu's sacrificial and impactful life story at www.isaacweb.org.
In this episode, we feature guest Katharine Hsiao as she shares what she learned from her mentor, Mary Li Hsu, former Assistant Dean of Yale College and Director of Yale's Asian American Cultural Center, who lived out a life of embodied the values of Sacrifice, Justice, Love, and Joy as an advocate for Asian American Christians. We are grateful for her support of ISAAC's mission, and we will continue her legacy through PastoraLab and Podcast. You can find more about Mary Li Hsu's sacrificial and impactful life story at www.isaacweb.org.
In this episode, we feature guest Dr. Debbie Gin as she shares her history with being a part of Asian American Women on Leadership (AAWOL) with Young almost 20 years ago and how the key needs and themes are still needed today for the AAPI Women: increasing visibility, understanding one's own agency and leadership from Multivocal Spaces, and giving back to organizations like ISAAC who seek to advance AAPI faith leaders. Please consider donating to ISAAC for GiveInMay at isaacweb.org/donate.
Debbie Gin is ATS Director of Research and Faculty Development. Debbie's areas of personal research include pedagogy, higher education administration, multicultural education engagement, and diversity inclusivity. Debbie has been a frequent invited speaker on topics related to race, excellence, and inclusion.
Welcome to our channel! In today's episode, we feature Russell Moy, ISAAC's Co-Founder and Board Chair, as he shares about how his rich Korean heritage and lineage intersects with the deep Christian faith of his late mother, Dorothy Jhung Moy. To honor her life and legacy, ISAAC will have a Dorothy Jhung Moy Legacy Fund, and Russell will match the first $10k that ISAAC raises for Give In May.
Welcome to our channel! In this episode, we feature ISAAC's PastoraLab Alumna, Sungshim Loppnow, who is a licensed psychotherapist and Spiritual Director. She shares about Immanuel Journaling as a way to interact with God and become more aware of God's compassionate presence in our lives. She will host a workshop on Immanuel Journaling on Sunday, April 21st at ISAAC's Pastoralab Open House & Spiritual Retooling event lead by Young Lee Hertig.
In this episode, we sit down with Cris Coniconde, the Discipleship Director at Menlo Church, as well as a participant of our PastoraLab Cohort in the vibrant Bay Area.
Join us as Cris shares her remarkable story, reflecting on her profound journey through ministry. From her humble beginnings to her current impactful roles within the church and community.
Joana has been the co-host of the Women Women Preach podcast for the past 2 years. It has been her joy to hold space for these conversations to enrich the AAPI & Latina women of faith community. On her final episode, she reflects on the impact & future hope with Young Lee Hertig.
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Welcome to our channel! In today's special episode, we have the privilege of chatting with Christine Tamara, who plays a pivotal role in overseeing the Hispanic Access Foundation's relations with over 150 thousand Latino churches across the United States and Puerto Rico. Christine is not only actively engaged with the Masterpiece Institute alongside her husband, Rev. Fernando Tamara, but she's also deeply involved with the Bread for the World Network, where she conducts on-the-ground advocacy with Congressional leaders in Washington, DC.
Join us as we delve into the significance of partnership and collaborative efforts with Christine, particularly through our F.U.N (Females United Network). We'll explore her experiences and insights, shedding light on the crucial work being done within our communities. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation!
Resources
Christine Tamara | website
Hispanic Access Foundation | https://hispanicaccess.org/
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Aeryn Johnson joins us to share her journey toward answering the call to preach, how her faith impacts her work in the corporate world and vice versa, and the message she believes the world needs to hear.
Resources
Aeryn Johnson | website
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
The Rev. Angela Furlong joins us to discuss her journey toward embracing her own belovedness. Guided by deep listening and compassion, she continues to cultivate a safe space for the marginalized and for anyone to experience the unconditional love of God.
Resources
Rev. Angela Furlong | website
Kintsugi Eggs Exercise | read article
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Author and journalist Liuan Huska joins us to share her insights on ecology, reflects on her year-long sabbatical in South America, and provides practical steps on how we can begin developing an interdependent relationship with the world around us.
Resources
Liuan Huska | website
Hurting Yet Whole, Reconciling Body and Spirit in Chronic Pain and Illness |Order Book
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Rev. Elaine Paull walks us through her sermon prep. as she seeks to help people grow & deepen their relationship with God through presenting all of Scripture (the Old Testament & New Testament). She brings a voice as a woman, an Asian American, married to a Jewish American, and aims to create spaces where differences are both accepted & celebrated.
Resources
Rev. Elaine Paull's | website
Amy Jill-Levine | resources & books
Website: https://www.sefaria.org/texts
Rabbi Joseph Telushkin | Jewish Wisdom
Rabbi Jonathan Sacks | Covenant & Conversation
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Dr. Kay Higuera Smith joins us to dive deep on the topic of gender. She speaks on how women are often used but not honored within church spaces, the crucial role of women in carrying out God's will in Scripture & subverting marginalization, and invites us into a practical new framework that centers women.
Resources
Biblical Study Guide for Equal Pulpits: https://www.amazon.com/Biblical-Study-Guide-Equal-Pulpits/dp/1666712175
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Dr. Debbie Gin and Young Lee Hertig joins to converse on the topic of finances. Dr. Debbie stresses the critical importance of financial management in seminaries and creating ecosystems of opportunities, while Young draws upon her experience as the executive director of a nonprofit to offer a paradigm shift.
Resources
AAWOL Blog: https://aawolsisters.com/
ATS Research & Data: https://www.ats.edu/ATS-Research-Staff-Deborah-H-C-Gin
How to Fuel Your Passion: https://isaacweb.org/howtofuelyourpassion/
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
The Rev. Ajung Sojwal is an Episcopal priest, who has served as priest-in-charge, interim priest and rector at several churches in New York and Connecticut before moving to Palo Alto, CA as priest-in-charge of All Saints’ Church. She is a regular blogger for Asian American Women on Leadership (AAWOL), the blogosphere of ISAAC.
Resources
AAWOL Blog: https://aawolsisters.com/
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Lydia Sohn is a United Methodist minister currently serving as the Senior Pastor of Walnut United Methodist Church. Her book, Here: A Spirituality of Staying in a Culture of Leaving, is forthcoming with Convergent Press in the Fall of 2024. She shares the crucial role contemplative spirituality plays in her preaching and speaks on the counter-cultural message of staying.
Resources
Website: https://www.revlydia.com/
IG: @lydiasohn
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Leslie Cheng is the Worship Pastor at First Baptist Church Pasadena, CA. A recent PastoraLab graduate, she shares her process as a worship leader and how she approaches her work through the practice of liturgy, defined as "work of the people."
Resources
Easter '21 album: https://open.spotify.com/album/0P9eLgidNoLogiPboACo4d?si=33553152b28b41d1
Advent album: https://open.spotify.com/album/6YVkMbVfkRi2pESkxnQvbA?si=7b8773fa525349c1
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Dr. Cindy S. Lee joins us to discuss her powerful new book, Our Unforming: De-Westernizing Spiritual Formation. She invites us to discover a new way to engage spiritual formation. One that includes our diverse contexts, and our communities. She invites us to reimagine the possibilities to create a spirituality that celebrates and intricately weaves in our full identities.
Resources
Purchase book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/our-unforming-cindy-s-lee/1140892054
Parents are Human: https://shop.parentsarehuman.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAjPyfBhBMEiwAB2CCIrF4Kc-pUlPQMQE_QXKUWWQ4HfcaAghzqoxb2_CA4IUWikCP0X3vThoCEOUQAvD_BwE
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Dr. Rev. Kathryn Choy-Wong joins us to discuss her new book: Building Lasting Bridges. How can Asian American churches become lasting intercultural bridge builders? How can we fight against our desire to silo ourselves and intentionally have proximity with our neighbors? Listen in on our conversation as she speaks from her lived experiences and invites us toward becoming lasting bridge builders.
Resources
Purchase book: https://www.amazon.com/Building-Lasting-Bridges-Handbook-Intercultural/dp/0817018360
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Rev. Dr. Mia Chang shares her experience as a church planter of a multi-cultural congregation. She shares how her immigrant Korean church background taught her the fundamentals of church planting, the values that kept her grounded throughout the process, and the transformative power of prayer.
Resources
NextGen Church: https://www.nextgenministry.net/about-us
Asian American Theology & Ministry Colloquium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy25f8hzIAE
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Dr. Deborah H.C. Gin invites us to explore how we, as women leaders, can use data to our advantage to shed light in unknown places. She names specific challenges women of color in leadership positions face, names the -isms women are subject to, and lists practical strategies to address them.
Resources
ATS Research & Data: https://www.ats.edu/ATS-Research-Staff-Deborah-H-C-Gin
Article from AAWOL, written by Dr. Gin: When Self-Denial is Beautiful
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited to this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Rev. Dr. Alexia Salvatierra is the Academic Dean of the Center for the Study of Hispanic Church and Community and the Associate Professor of Mission and Global Transformation at Fuller Theological Seminary. She has been a national leader in the areas of working poverty and immigration for over 25 years.
Dr. Alexia joins us in conversation on the value of scholarly endeavor & how it enhanced her activism, invite the church to encourage congregants to move forward and create, and shares a message for the next generation.
Learn more about Rev Dr. Alexia:
Website: http://www.alexiasalvatierra.com/
Resources
Survey: Asian American Congregational Leadership Practices Survey
PastoraLab 2023 Cohorts: Apply Now
Book: Faith Rooted Organizing
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Victoria is a How to Fuel your Passion participant, a minister, and a scholar. She speaks to us about how re-defining leadership is the key to creating visibility for the unseen leaders from within a congregation. She also shares on her upcoming dissertation and how she hopes the pathway she has chosen will be a representation of possibility to those within her community.
Learn more about Victoria:
Bio: https://www.htiopenplaza.org/contributors/victoria-perez-rivera
Resources
Survey: Asian American Congregational Leadership Practices Survey
PastoraLab 2023 Cohorts: Apply Now
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
This episode highlights an Asian American woman faith leader who transitioned her church towards adopting a gospel centered on diversity, equity, and justice in practical ways. Listen in as Rev. Soo Ji Alvarez describes how she became the lead pastor within her community in the middle of a pandemic, and how she continues to pastor her church through this current season in our country.
Learn more about Rev. Soo Ji Alvarez:
Website: https://www.theavenue.life/about/our-staff/
Facebook: The Avenue Church
Resources
Book: A Biblical Study Guide for Equal Pulpits
Website: Wesleyan Holiness Women Clergy
Survey: Asian American Congregational Leadership Practices Survey
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
This episode features the authors of the new book: A Biblical Study Guide for Equal Pulpits. Dr. Gale Yee and Dr. Sophia Magallanes-Tsang join us to discuss their respective chapters in a book that was written to both challenge and encourage the church towards a more equal pulpit. Dr. Gale elevates the prayers of lamentations throughout the Psalms and the importance of it's applications today . Dr. Sophia explores the Song of Songs and concentrates on the Shulamite, an outsider, who prophetically challenges the monarchy and patriarchy of the Solomonic legacy.
Follow Dr. Sophia Magallanes-Tsang
Follow Dr. Gale Yee Order the book: A Biblical Study Guide for Equal Pulpits
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
This episode features Sabrina Chan, the national director of Asian American ministries for InterVarsity Christian fellowship / USA. She joins us to discuss the new upcoming book from InterVarsity Press, Learning Our Names. "Asian Americans know the pain of being called names that deny our humanity. We may toggle back and forth between different names as a survival strategy. But it's a challenge to discern what names reflect our true identities as Asian Americans and as Christians."
Follow Sabrina Chan: @sabrinachanwrites Pre-order the book NOW! Learning our Names
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
When does it become necessary to walk away from certain spaces that prevent us from maximizing our God given gifts? How can our experiences be used to impact the next generation? Mia Shin describes her journey of walking away, and into new spaces that allow her to fully maximize her gifts of preaching, leadership, and community development.
Learn more about Mia Shin:
Instagram: @miateaches + @aapislo
Website: https://www.miashin.org/
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCon70DGAT44_7GqfgOPCPRQ
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Where does the issue of gender equality at the pulpit currently stand? How can you converse with those who disagree on this issue? Listen in on our conversation with Pastor Raymond Chang as he sounds the call for all of us to be courageous enough to break out of our tribalistic tendencies and be awakened to challenging the norms within our own church communities.
Learn more about Raymond Chang:
Instagram: @raychang502 + @aachristcollab
The panel discussion mentioned in the podcast can be listened to here: https://www.asianamericanchristiancollaborative.com/chicago-female-pastors
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We want to hear from you! Email us at podcast@isaacweb.org. Please include your name, denomination, and church context.
1. What are you learning from this podcast?
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Host: ISAAC // @isaacfellowship // www.isaacweb.org
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
A dissertation focused on clergy self care through interfaith dialogue & community. A deep love for Art History. Serving as an Associate Pastor and as a Hospice Chaplain. How can the various contexts we are placed in and the multiple roles we carry affect our pastoral ministry? Reverend Dr. Grace Park speaks to us about finding God in the most unexpected places and how our role as pastors is to lead others to do the same.
Host: ISAAC
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Reverend Dr. Sue Kim Park is the Director of Contextual Education and International Partnerships at Columbia Theological Seminary. She speaks of her experience as a WOC faculty member in a pre-dominantly white centric theological seminary and the challenges she faces on a daily basis. How can you imagine change in an environment that was not created for your thriving? What are the practices that we can draw from to sustain us? Where can change really happen?
Host: ISAAC
Co-host / Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Welcome to Season 2, Episode 1 of When Women Preach. The following episode honors Miriam's wish of inviting male allies to speak on the podcast.
Our first guest is Pastor John Park of NUMA church located in Buena Park, CA. He shares his perspective on why he believes women should have equal access to the pulpit and highlights the importance of being direct.
Host: ISAAC
Co-host: Joana Choi
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC'S official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Join us to celebrate 15 years of ISAAC's mission of Bridging the Academy, Church, and Community as well as to propel us into the future on Saturday, October 16th. Tickets can be purchased through our website listed above.
The following episode is Miriam Cho's final podcast recording due to her sudden, tragic death. Her vibrant voice on the recording conveys her passion for this podcast along with her belief in the value of ISAAC's overall mission: "to raise up the next generation of spiritual leaders by providing an intersectional learning space that bridges the academy, church, and community."
How do we embrace the call that God has given us to be church planters, women leaders, organizers, etc? Pastor Adelita Garza of Puenta de Vida church in Santa Paula, CA shares the reason she believes women have been called to church plant and sounds the call for men to support.
Host: ISAAC
Co-host: Miriam Cho
Sound Producer: Joana Choi
Music: Paul Choi
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Change is an often used buzzword, but how do you actually change your ministries? Yulee Lee, founder of Change Leadership Institute and consultant on change strategy, reveals a surprising way to implement change -- and talks about it through the lens of being an Asian American woman leader.
Host: ISAAC
Co-host: Miriam Cho
Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
How can worship and preaching go together? Pastora Rosa Cándida Ramírez from La Fuente Ministries explores how worship can give people from all backgrounds a space to belong. She also shares some practical wisdom as a bi-vocational minister working with immigrant populations.
Host: ISAAC
Co-host: Miriam Cho
Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Not all ministers have a direct path to ministry - but God is faithful nonetheless. We see that in Joyce Koo Dalrymple's story of stepping into ministry as her third career and graduating as the only woman in her seminary class. She also shares her passion for raising awareness of foster care and adoption in the church.
Hosts: Young Lee Hertig, Miriam Cho
Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
How do you convince congregations to do social justice work? Hear from veteran church planter Gricel Medina about how she brought a rural church in Kansas into her passion for equity. Gricel also shares practical wisdom on church planting and building up a ministry that truly reflects one's calling.
Hosts: Young Lee Hertig, Miriam Cho
Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
What role do clergy have in community organizing? Janna Louie, an ordained American Baptist minister, describes the lessons she's learned partnering with organizations on the ground. She shares her experiences from Atlanta to Los Angeles to Malaysia -- and why place matters so much in organizing.
Host/Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
We sit down with Christine Lee, the first Korean American woman ordained in the Episcopal Church. Christine reveals alternate ways of leadership that fit the gifts of women and women of color. She also explores how to lead change in a historical metropolitan church, St. Peter's Chelsea in NYC.
Host: Young Lee Hertig
Co-Host/Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC’s official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Marion Park and Charlene Jin Lee are two of ISAAC's faculty for PastoraLab, a training program for Asian American women ministers. They discuss how God called them to ministry while they navigated a career change, changed their family's mind about women pastors, and more.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Two Korean American women who are senior pastors share their journeys to break the "stained glass" ceiling. From finding your voice to preaching virtually, Charlene Han Powell and Theresa Cho share their wisdom.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Full-time ministry" usually makes us picture pastors in a church -- but in reality, everyone is called to do full-time ministry. We speak with two women who minister full-time in the non-profit world -- Joanne Rodriguez, Executive Director of the Hispanic Theological Initiative at Princeton Seminary, and Breana Van Velzen, Community Minister at Duke University Chapel.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Church planters Jeya So and Inés Velásquez-McBryde share what pastoral freedom and creativity they have as women of color leading church plants. This is a follow-up episode from ISAAC's Gender Summit 3: Women of Color Church Planters.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed/
After a heavy summer of police brutality, we have a candid conversation with Jennifer A. Guerra Aldana and Jennifer Jane Hong-Guzman de Leon about organizing against toxic masculinity's role in racial injustice. Both Jennifer and Jane work at the Fuller Youth Institute, a branch of Fuller Theological Seminary, that helps young people make sense of injustice.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
In this episode, we talk about gendered conceptions of God and how we can approach a God who is beyond gender. Host Miriam Cho talks with Kay Higuera Smith, professor of Biblical Studies at Azusa Pacific University, and Young Lee, executive director of ISAAC.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Guest host Miriam Cho sits down with Anna Kang and Jennifer Chou on how they became church planters.
Disclaimer: The views, actions, and affiliations of guests invited on this podcast do not always reflect ISAAC's official stances; they belong to the guests. This podcast is a platform for voices to be shared and perspectives to be discussed.
Guest host Miriam Cho interviews Lisa Beyeler-Yvarra and Angie Hong at Duke Divinity School about their experiences of preaching through art.
Guest host Miriam Cho interviews Peace Lee, Katherine Guerrero, and Kim Ayala-Kim at Duke Divinity School. They explore how to wrestle with the Biblical text and preaching in the context of Durham, North Carolina.
As a preacher, do you follow a manuscript or go "where the Spirit leads"? What does it even mean to go with the Spirit during a sermon? Young Lee Hertig dialogues with Dr. Charlene Jin Lee of Loyola Marymount University about their insights on going with and without a manuscript, sensing the congregation, and other perspectives on preaching.
Host: Young Lee Hertig
Sound Producer: Miriam Cho
Music: urmymuse
In this first episode, Kay Higuera Smith and Young Lee Hertig dialogue why women preaching matters.
Host: Young Lee Hertig
The podcast, "When Women Preach..." highlights women preachers from API and Latinx faith communities. In this first introductory podcast, Kay Higuera Smith and Young Lee Hertig dialogue why women preaching matters.