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James Cary & Barry Cooper
James Cary and Barry Cooper are two English friends who live 4000 miles apart and enjoy theology, culture and the arts. Now they record themselves and call it a podcast. Thanks, internet.
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Back in September 2021, Coops and Cares got together to talk about the uncomfortable idea of rewards in heaven. Christians don't tend to dwell on this. Not today. Why? And what is the truth of the matter? Let's look at Luke 19.
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While we await our final episode #180, here's one from back in May 2021 about a question that comes round and around: should I leave my church? You could listen to an extended version via Patreon where you can access all previous 179 episodes!
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Back in 2019, before everything got really weird, Coops and Cares recorded this episode about endings. The presenting issue was the Game of Thrones season finale, but it's not really about that. How do you end something? I guess we've been thinking a bit about that around here... Hope you enjoy.
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This is not episode 180. That's still to come. But that'll be the last one. After that, it'll be "So long, and thanks for all the fish." You can listen to back episodes if you join us on Patreon.
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Cary has words with fellow writer, SD Smith (Green Ember) - and whaddayaknow? They complain about how hard it is to be a writer, even though they get to live in castles. In fact, it's mandatory. Anyway, the Green Ember series is huge. Find out why and how and what happened next. And check out SD Smith's wares at his website: https://sdsmith.com
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Cary has words with Dr Ted Turnau, academic, author and fanboy. What does it mean to be a fan, dress up and go to conventions? Is it a form of religion or a rival faith? And what happened with those guys who collected My Little Ponies? Is it high time we learned to Love Thy Nerd? https://lovethynerd.com And check out Oasis of the Imagination: https://amzn.to/4cMxURZ Imagination Manifesto https://amzn.to/4bPaERZ and The Pop Culture Parent https://amzn.to/4bVOptD
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Cary has words with Christopher. That would be the utterly delightful Christopher Ash, who has just written a massive four-volume work on the Psalms for Crossway that shows us Christ in the Psalms. You can find it here: https://www.crossway.org/books/the-psalms-hcj-5/
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Cary has words with Ellie Wiener, a young ancient linguist whose bluff was called and she found herself researching a PhD on the Book of Job. Cary wonders if the beginning is so tragic it teeters over into comedy. And when God speaks to Job, is He sarcastic? Ellie has some thoughts.
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Cary has words with Dr Graham Shearer about politics following his talk entitled: “Contemporary Politics and the Crisis of the Spiritual Sense”. Turns out politics is not downstream from culture, as Cary had often assumed. Who knew? Well, Dr Graham knew. He's a Lecturer in Theology at Union Theological College, Belfast, so I guess he would, right?
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Cary and (Rev Ash) Carter have words about the life and times of an extraordinary man: Richard Baxter. He lived from 1615 until 1691, and went from preaching to Parliament on a day of repentance for executing the King - to being imprisoned for being a theological troublemaker. What can we learn from his life, ministry and truly voluminous writings, including The Reformed Pastor. There's an updated and abridged version from Crossway here.
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Cary has words with author, podcaster, failed atheist and former Director of Theos, Elizabeth Oldfield who looks at the seven deadly sins in her new book, Fully Alive: Tending to the Soul in Turbulent Times.
'This remarkable book points not to some unreachable ideal of life but to a deeper, more soulful and meaningful experience of the lives we're actually living.'
- Oliver Burkeman
Get it on Amazon UK here: https://amzn.to/3yrNL9p
Read her weekly blog here: https://morefullyalive.substack.com
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What is Protestantism? And why are Protestants reluctant to use the term about themselves? Is it useful anymore? Rhys Laverty should know. He is Editor in Chief at Ad Fontes, Managing Editor at Davenant Press, and Director of Communications at the Davenant Institute. Find him and his work here: https://thenewalbion.substack.com/
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Cooper, Cary and Morgan Locke talk about The State of the Culture, art, entertainment, distraction, addiction and whether dopamine is all that. Plus some EXCITING new jingles...
Referring to this article: https://www.honest-broker.com/p/the-state-of-the-culture-2024
And mentioning The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt https://amzn.to/44c7PIz
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Cary has words with friend of the show, Randy Newman, author of Questioning Evangelism, Mere Evangelism and a new book about spiritual journey called, Questioning Faith. This is a conversation about how God uses us despite our terrible attempts at evangelism, and how non-believers are often stopped in their tracks by unexpected things. And it turns out there's one book by CS Lewis that neither Cary or Newman can understand or get into. Find out what it is in this episode.
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From November 2022. Cooper and Cary have words about THAT line in the Apostles' Creed. What exactly was Jesus doing between his death and resurrection?
https://journal.rts.edu/article/he-descended-into-hell/
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Well, that was 2023. Join James and Barry as they choose their favourite episodes, dive into the C&C mailbag, and talk about their favourite books, films, tv, podcasts, and moments of 2023. Pull up a cocoa, recline by the glowing hearth, and - sure, go ahead - stoke the auld acquaintance, as we see out another year together.
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James and Barry have extended words about Unidentified Autonomous (or Anomalous, or Aerial) Phenomena - UAPs to their friends. Strange things are being seen in the skies, even by highly trained and highly sceptical USAF fighter pilots, there is video evidence which has been made publicly available, and these things are being discussed at the highest levels of government. What's going on? Why have governments previously wanted to keep quiet about it? And how should Christians think about these things? Is it a threat to historic, biblical Christianity - or confirmation of it?
UAP footage on NBC News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSIKYlm2eE
Declassified UAP footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_M0hLlJ-Q
Haunted Cosmos podcast: https://www.thehauntedcosmos.com
Medieval X-Files courtesy of the Middle Ages Music YouTube Channel
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Cooper and Cary have words about spiritual revivals with Jonathan Thomas, writer and presenter of the documentary Welsh Awakenings. Jonathan is pastor of Cornerstone Church Abergavenny, and the presenter of All Things Considered on BBC Radio Wales.
Watch the documentary trailer here: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/welshawakenings
Jonathan's book, Intentional Interruptions: Learning to be Interrupted the Way God Intended: https://tinyurl.com/2e4nrdam
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James and Barry have words about the TV juggernaut that is The Chosen. Lots of their friends love it. But James and Barry have... thoughts. Is The Chosen a 2CV - second commandment violation - and if not, is it still worth watching?
Here's the Justin Peters Youtube Video
Cary’s Water into Wine show
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Cooper and Cary have words about power and its abuse with Mark Stirling, former medical doctor and pastor. He's the author of Not So with You: Power and Leadership for the Church.
Mark's book: Not So With You (Amazon UK)
Not So With You (Amazon US)
The spate of recent scandals of power abuse by leaders within the evangelical world suggests something is wrong in our churches. When a leader misuses power, they have misunderstood and misrepresented God and the gospel. This volume addresses the key underlying issue of what a biblical and healthy use of power in the church actually looks like. Authors from a variety of Christian backgrounds and traditions help frame a biblical and theological understanding and practice of power use, describe what it looks like when things go wrong (and how to recognize the signs), and suggest how the contemporary church can and must do better in this area. This book is a rigorously grounded biblical challenge to much contemporary practice. It is a call to reformation.
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James and Barry have words about the shift from "being anxious" to "having anxiety". What does anxiety have to do with idols? What are the reasons behind the current "anxiety epidemic"? Is anxiety a condition that ought to be pathologised? Is looking back at historic "trauma" always a helpful way to improve mental health? And how does our new identity in Christ change things?
ReferencesThe Student Health Crisis Is A Myth https://unherd.com/2023/09/the-student-mental-health-crisis-is-a-myth/
Why Do Teenage Girls Feel Unsafe? https://unherd.com/thepost/why-do-so-many-teenage-girls-feel-unsafe/
Humans Are More Resilient Than You Think (podcast about "trauma") https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humans-are-more-resilient-than-you-think/id1570872415?i=1000547660535
Common Questions About Mental Illness (podcast with David Murray)
https://www.crossway.org/articles/podcast-answering-common-questions-about-mental-illness-david-murray/
Jon Haidt's Substack, After Babel: https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/
Jon Haidt's article about the decline in mental health since 2013, and how colleges have been performing "*reverse cognitive behavioral therapy": https://jonathanhaidt.substack.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls
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James and Barry have extended words with Thomas Umstattd (@ThomasUmstattd) about writing. In 2009, Thomas started AuthorTechTips.com, a website to help authors use the web to promote their books. In 2014, Thomas’s blog post Why Courtship is Fundamentally Flawed went viral and reached over a million people in just a few weeks. As a podcaster, he hosts the Novel Marketing Podcast, and the Christian Publishing Show.
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James and Barry discuss the art of listening. What does the Bible have to say about it? And how does it relate to anger? Are we bad at listening because it's a selfless thing to do? After all, there's no "I" in "LISTENING" is there? Oh wait.
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Cooper and Cary have words with Matt Fuller, pastor of Christ Church Mayfair in London - yup, the most expensive one on the British Monopoly board. Matt is the author of Reclaiming Masculinity: Seven Biblical Principles for Being the Man God Wants You to Be. (Cary has known Matt for 25 years and is fine with the fact that Matt did not dedicate this book to him, but went with two other guys instead...)
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Has the church become a battleground for personal preferences? Is the holy communion of believers threatened by our own biases and individualistic tendencies? Cooper & Cary have words about disagreements and disputes in the church, and how to handle them.
In Philippians 4, Paul pleads with Euodia and Syntyche to "agree in the Lord". How do we do that? What does that even mean? And should there be times when we simply can't "agree to disagree"?
Philippians 4
https://earlychurchhistory.org/beliefs-2/paul-barnabas-split-over-mark/
https://tabletalkmagazine.com/article/2022/03/conflicts-over-lesser-matters/
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/7-steps-to-conflict-resolution/
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Cooper and Cary have words with Ros Clarke, author of the new book Human: Made and Remade in the Image of God. She writes, "If we want to understand what it means to be truly human, we need to listen to God rather than look inside ourselves”. Why do people prefer to look inside themselves, and what is better about listening to God instead? And how did writing this book change how Ros felt about herself?
Ros' Book: https://ivpbooks.com/human-930
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James and Barry have words about what unbelievers really believe. Tara Isabella Burton has written a stimulating book called Strange Rites about people in the States who identify as "spiritual but not religious". She argues that America is not "secular" at all, but "spiritually self-focused".
Does that explain why people currently seem so willing to believe in phenomena such as ghosts, UFOs, and all things "woooooo"? And does it explain why the hyper-rational arguments of the new atheists seem not to have won the day?
Review of Strange Rites: https://www.solas-cpc.org/book-review-strange-rites-new-religions-for-a-godless-world/
Article by Tara Isabella Burton about post-rationalists: https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/rational-magic
Uncanny radio show: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m0010x7c
Guardian article on the growth of religious belief in recent years: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/aug/27/religion-why-is-faith-growing-and-what-happens-next
Terrifying AI generated woman, LOAB: https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/13/loab-ai-generated-horror/
Paul Kingsnorth's spooky article on AI, The Universal: https://paulkingsnorth.substack.com/p/the-universal
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Cooper and Cary have extended words with Matthew Fisher about the Bebington Quadrilateral and the definition of evangelical. They also get into whether or not the evangelical focus on a person's "conversion" is a healthy one. Barry's "conversion experience" was quite a dramatic one - but to what extent should we presume that kind of thing is normative?
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James and Barry have extended words about parachurch ministries. It's hard to find a popular Christian teacher who doesn't have his or her own parachurch ministry. Then there are campus ministries, youth ministries, evangelism ministries, mercy ministries. Are they God's gift to the church, coming alongside the local church to help them fulfil their mission? Or do they actually keep the church from being what it's supposed to be? This could get awkward, given that Cooper has spent half his life working for parachurch organisations...
Related articles and videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1EkH4RxFzQ&ab_channel=ThePastor%27sHeart
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/what-is-a-parachurch-ministry
https://www.9marks.org/article/journalnine-marks-healthy-parachurch-ministry/
https://theweeflea.com/2017/11/03/how-not-to-be-an-american-missionary-in-scotland/
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James and Barry outdo themselves by getting their Bavincks in a twist. Thankfully, Dan Strange is on hand to do some untwisting. Just who is J H Bavinck, and why should we care? (NOT to be confused with his better known uncle Herman Bavinck - ha ha! as if anyone would be THAT stupid!). What does J H Bavinck have to tell us about missions, cultural engagement, and how to have a civil conversation?
The word of the podcast is "elenctics". That's "elenctics".
Daniel Strange is director of Crosslands Forum and the vice president of The Southgate Fellowship. He is a fellow of The Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics and is the author of Their Rock Is Not Like Our Rock: A Theology of Religions (Zondervan, 2015), Plugged In (The Good Book Company, 2019), and Making Faith Magnetic (The Good Book Company, 2021). He is a contributing editor for Themelios and an elder of Hope Community Church, Gateshead, U.K., which is part of the Fellowship of Evangelical Churches (FIEC).
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Does it really matter what we wear, or don't wear? Cooper and Cary have words about nudity and modesty. Does Christian modesty mean all public nudity is forbidden for Christians? What about looking at nudity in a Renaissance painting, or in a movie? How about if it's reeeeally tastefully done? Should we avoid nudity primarily because it might encourage lust in others... or is there a more fundamental reason for doing so?
Jason Ward's article on nudity is available in Vol 136/4 of Global Anglican magazine: https://www.churchsociety.org/product/the-global-anglican-vol-136-4/
In this episode, we explore everything from beach attire to Christians at a nudist beach, and even the portrayal of nudity in popular culture like Game of Thrones and Renaissance art.
Join us as we examine the role of nakedness and modesty in Biblical teachings, uncovering the connections between the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve, and the shame associated with nudity. We'll also consider the historical and cultural significance of garments, from coronations to glorification, and how they relate to our spiritual experiences.
But it's not just about history - we'll also dive into the various perceptions of nudity and modesty across different cultures, discussing how men and women approach these topics in public settings. As we navigate the world of Christian ethics, we'll explore the implications of categories like 'clean' and 'unclean,' and how they relate to our understanding of modesty.
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Cooper and Cary have words with 9Marks' Jonathan Leeman (@JonathanLeeman) about church membership and discipline. What are the pros/cons? Is it really necessary? And what actually happened when Leeman and Cooper shared a New Jersey hotel room that one time? (PS Sorry for Cooper's sound quality on this episode. He's been warned, and we have no further comments to make at this time.)
Links:
- Jonathan's book on membership: https://www.amazon.com/Church-Membership-Represents-Building-Churches/dp/1433532379/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1684263039&sr=8-4
- Jonathan's book on church discipline: https://www.amazon.com/Church-Discipline-Protects-Building-Churches/dp/1433532336/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1684263039&sr=8-2
- Desiring God article by Marshall Segal: https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/why-god-made-you-for-membership
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Cooper and Cary have extended words on a subject they are ideally placed to discuss: the midlife crisis. Have people always had them? How common are they? What are the causes? And is there a way of mitigating against them?
Links
Midlife crisis is more than a theory
Royal Society lecture
Jordan Peterson on the midlife crisis
Midlife in the 2020s: Opportunities and Challenges
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Cooper is unwell, so Cary has words with pastor Andrew Fellows (formerly of L'Abri Fellowship) to talk about the significance of Francis Schaeffer. Also: what's gone wrong with the Church?
Andrew's book: https://www.amazon.com/Smuggling-Jesus-Back-into-Church/dp/1789743435
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Cooper and Cary have words about the so-called "Winsomeness Wars". How should Christians speak to others, especially those who disagree with us? Is there a one-size fits all approach? And might "winsomeness" actually lose some?
Background Articles
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2022/november/moore-winsomeness-hostile-culture-fruit-spirit.html
https://americanreformer.org/2023/01/the-winsomeness-wars/
https://americanreformer.org/2022/10/sheep-wolves-and-fools/
https://aaronrenn.substack.com/p/newsletter-3-the-history-of-the-church
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/be-winsome-and-persuasive/
Background Podcasts
https://paulvanderklay.podbean.com/e/aaron-renn-s-three-worlds-of-evangelicalism-and-the-winsome-wars/
https://dougwils.com/podcasts/plodcast/258-evangelical-winsomeness-2.html
La Fayette, We Are Here!
French history podcast for Americans, by a Frenchman. Learn all about France's history.
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Was John Owen England's greatest theologian? The Puritan who preached to Parliament the day after the King of England was beheaded in 1649? Or is there another? And why is the English Civil War overlooked? Cooper and Cary Have Words with Rev Dr Lee Gatiss, Director of The Church Society.
John Owen Daily Readings, edited by Lee Gatiss: https://amzn.to/42cXXNj
The Church Society: https://www.churchsociety.org/
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Cooper and Cary have words about the loneliness epidemic. What's with all those "our staff deserve respect" notices you see everywhere? What's the connection between loneliness and totalitarianism? And what on earth is demography anyway?
CDC Report on Teen Girls' Loneliness: https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-teen-girls-experiencing-record-004736597.html
The Politics of Loneliness is Totalitarian: https://theweek.com/politics/1002095/the-politics-of-loneliness-is-totalitarian
Paul Blackham talks to Glen Scrivener about the role church can play: https://youtu.be/Z0Atc6GQr1o
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Once saved always saved? Cooper and Cary have words about the perseverance of the saints.
The Westminster Confession Of Faith on the Perseverance of the Saints.
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Cooper and Cary have words with best-selling author of Gentle and Lowly, and one of their favourite Ortlunds (@daneortlund), to ask, "Is Hell Real?"*
Is Hell Real: https://9marks.myshopify.com/collections/new-releases/products/is-hell-real
Gentle and Lowly: https://amzn.to/3lkJxtu
The Admirable Conjunction of Diverse Excellencies in Christ Jesus (Sermon by Jonathan Edwards)
(*other Ortlunds are available)
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What is happiness? Is there a difference between happiness, joy and contentment - biblically speaking? What are the obstacles to happiness? Turn that frown upside down, as Cooper & Cary have words.
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Cooper and Cary have words with Matthew Mason about the composer Ralph Vaughan Williams, and in the process get talking about truth, beauty, and the power of music. Business as usual then.
Ralph Vaughan Williams Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DX16DYGZ5ktAV?si=3f29d742a7e04a9c
The Book Pile
Want to sound smart? Two comics discuss a book every Monday so you can pretend you read.
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Cooper and Cary have words about their favourite things of 2022.
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Cooper & Cary have words with Reagan Rose about productivity. Is the prospect of "reward in heaven" a godly motivation for productivity? How can we stay focused on what matters? And what was Cooper doing with a family bag of Wotsits on a darkened military base in the late 90s?
Reagan's website: https://redeemingproductivity.com
Reagan's podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/redeeming-productivity/id1476403107
Reagan's book: https://redeemingproductivity.com/redeeming-productivity-book/
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Why does the Church refuse to unleash her most powerful weapon? Cooper and Cary have extended words about the public reading of Scripture.
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Cooper & Cary have words with Sherri Lynn about her comedy The Bold & The Sanctified, in which two pastors - one black, one white - are forced to join congregations. You probably haven't noticed this, but race and racism is currently a bit of a third rail issue. Probably best not to touch it. And especially don't touch it with comedy. One of Sherri's friends said before the show launched, "Don't do it." So why did she? And what have been the results?
BONUS: off the back of our episode with Aaron Renn (#138), we ask Sherri whether men and women should be friends.
https://boldandsanctifiedplay.com
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Cooper and Cary have words about THAT line in the Apostles' Creed. What exactly was Jesus doing between his death and resurrection?
https://journal.rts.edu/article/he-descended-into-hell/
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In the wake of the Matt Chandler Instagram DM story, Cooper and Cary Have Words with Aaron Renn, creator of the Masculinist. The word of the podcast is 'asymmetry'.
Read more from Aaron here: https://aaronrenn.substack.com/
https://aaronrenn.substack.com/p/newsletter-25-what-do-we-do-about
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Spread Love FM great conversations with an eclectic mix of artists and neighbors alike!
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Cooper and Cary have words about whether or not certain gifts (ie healing, speaking in tongues, words of prophecy) are given to believers today. It all starts with a slightly spooky story from Barry...
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Cooper and Cary have extended words with Rhys Laverty about Classical Christian Education. Why is it becoming more and more popular? Why would we want to teach our kids Latin? And why are Christians taking an educational lead from - of all people - THE ROMANS?
Reforming Classical Education by Rhys Laverty et al
Rhys' Ad Fontes Podcast
Association of Classical Christian Schools
The Lost Tools Of Learning by Dorothy Sayers (free online article)
Recovering The Lost Tools Of Learning by Douglas Wilson
The Well-Trained Mind by Susan Wise Bauer
Metamorphoses by Ovid
The Odyssey (translated by Robert Fagles, read by Ian McKellen)
Dialogues by Plato
Mythos by Stephen Fry
The Abolition of Man by C S Lewis
The Light Ages by Seb Falk
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James and Barry have words about using a person's preferred pronouns. Is it the right, loving thing to use them? Our hosts do actually have words (well, mild disagreement - they are British) about whether it's ok to use a feminine name for someone who is biologically/genetically male. Want more? Get the Extended version on Apple podcasts.
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Cooper and Cary are back in a fortnight with Ep 135, so just one more replay, this time with good friend of the show, Nate Morgan Locke who talks about The Genesis of Story, and the opening music should warn you that Nate Morgan Locke is back in town. He’s only recently recovered from Toy Story 4 (see Ep 59) but he is now thinking about how all stories are one story: the monomyth. Nate thought it would be a good idea to present this to Westminster Theological Seminar as a fictional roadtrip so he, James and Barry talk to him about that. And a little bit about Star Wars. You can get hold of Nate’s Roadtrip Thesis, The Genesis of Story, here.
Cary does a podcast with Morgan Locke called Popcorn Parenting that you can find here.
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We'll be back in September 2022, but three years earlier back in 2019, we had words with author of one of our favourite books, Randy Newman. That book is Questioning Evangelism but his brand new book, Unlikely Converts was really interesting too. People keep become Christians the wrong way. Find out why. And not every podcast features one of the co-hosts using the word "ululate" as if it's no biggie, but this isn't "every podcast" is it?
Questioning Evangelism
Unlikely Converts
Our theme music is by Roger Taylor and his latest album is The Rubicon Moment. Other music and jingles by Barry, who really should have better things to do with his time.
We'll be back for more words in September. Send us email if there's anything you'd like us to talk about. Send words to: cooperandcary@gmail.com
Back in August 2019, Barry and James finally bit the bullet and discussed predestination, as part of their ongoing project to please none of the people, all of the time.
Here are some key passages in the unlikely event that you're following along at home:
Ephesians 1:3-12
Romans 8:28-30
Romans 9:10-24
Ephesians 2:8-9
John 6:44; John 6:65
Book: R C Sproul, What Is Predestination?
Article: John Piper, Watershed Differences Between Calvinists and Arminians
Catch Cooper on the Simply Put podcast. Nuggets of theology, ideal for dipping. And try Luther in Real Time.
Listen to Cary on Popcorn Parenting or Sitcom Geeks. Or try his weekly Substack.
Back in June 2020, in times of Covid, Cooper and Cary donned their tin foil hats and had words about Conspiracy Theories and whether Christians should know better, following an article in Dallas News by Ed Stetzer and Andrew MacDonald.
Books we mention:
Voodoo Histories: How Conspiracy Theory Has Shaped Modern History Paperback – 6 May 2010 by David Aaronovitch
Peter Oborne Rise of Political Lying.
Catch Cooper on the Simply Put podcast. Nuggets of theology, ideal for dipping. And try Luther in Real Time.
Listen to Cary on Popcorn Parenting or Sitcom Geeks. Or try his weekly Substack.
Back in 2019, people were raving about Richard Rohr's The Universal Christ. Or were they just raving? What was all the fuss about? Cooper and Cary had words about Rohr's words. They did not like those words.
Read Ian Paul's review of the book on the excellent Psephizo blog here.
Our theme music is by Roger Taylor and his latest album is The Rubicon Moment. Other music and jingles by Barry, who really should have better things to do with his time.
While we're on hiatus for the summer, the Patreon scheme is dormant. You can probably join but you're not being charged - we don't think.
Tweet us @cooperandcary, comment on our Facebook page, or go old skool and email us here.
Catch Cooper on the Simply Put podcast. Nuggets of theology, ideal for dipping. And try Luther in Real Time.
Listen to Cary on Popcorn Parenting or Sitcom Geeks. Or try his weekly Substack.
We're still on summer hiatus. Thanks for bearing with. Here's a landmark episode from the archive you might not have heard. Back in March 2019, Barry and James 'celebrated' fifty episodes by apologising again, in true British form. But they also talk about what they would say to their twenty-year-old selves, and wonder whether their younger selves would have listened anyway. AND YOU CAN WATCH THIS EPISODE ON YOUTUBE!
Factfulness by Hans Rosling
Seeing Green by Tilly Dillehay
Renovation of the heart: Putting on the Character of Christ by Dallas Willard
This Cultural Moment
The Hello Mormonism Podcast
Cooper and Cary are on a summer break, so the Patreon scheme is in abeyance. Yes, we did just use that word 'abeyance'. You are welcome.
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Catch Cooper on the Simply Put podcast. Nuggets of theology, ideal for dipping. And try Luther in Real Time.
Listen to Cary on Popcorn Parenting or Sitcom Geeks. Or try his weekly Substack.
Back in December 2017, before their regular theme tune and those daft jingles, Cooper and Cary were having words. In this episode, the words are about evangelism, asking questions, one of their favourite books - and is a faucet the same as a tap? And what on earth is a spigot? Oh, and stuff about Christian movies.
Questioning Evangelism: Engaging People's Hearts the Way Jesus Did by Randy Newman
Cooper and Cary are on a summer break, so the Patreon scheme is in abeyance. Yes, we did just use that word 'abeyance'. You are welcome.
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Catch Cooper on the Simply Put podcast. Nuggets of theology, ideal for dipping. And try Luther in Real Time.
Listen to Cary on Popcorn Parenting or Sitcom Geeks. Or try his weekly Substack.
Cary has words with Glen Scrivener, Director of Speak Life, about how people are coming around to Christianity. Kind of.
Get The Air We Breathe from The Good Book Company: https://www.thegoodbook.co.uk/the-air-we-breathe
Also mentioned, The World Next Door by Rory Shiner
https://www.10ofthose.com/uk/products/28494/the-world-next-door
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Or should we call it Third Person Parenting? No, we shouldn't. Find out why as Nate Morgan Locke sits in for Cooper, joining Cary for some words about watching movies with your kids, and how the Popcorn Parenting podcast has changed their view of parenting and culture.
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✅ Access to extended audio and video versions of every new episode, days before the edited audio is released. That's 26 extended episodes every year.
✅ Access to never before released episodes.
✅ Access to occasional live video Q+A sessions in which you can ask James and Barry anything.
✅ Access to the members-only Cooper & Cary Discord server
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Cooper and Cary have words about politics. Wait, come back. We're talking about libertarianism. Again, come back. Is libertarianism compatible with Christianity? Does it need to be? Am I just asking questions for the sake of it now? And does anyone read this far anyway?
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✅ Access to extended audio and video versions of every new episode, days before the edited audio is released. That's 26 extended episodes every year.
✅ Access to never before released episodes.
✅ Access to occasional live video Q+A sessions in which you can ask James and Barry anything.
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Cooper and Cary have words about Lent and Ash Wednesday, before opening up our mailbag and Discord to offer wild speculation on such topics on how to tell if someone's really a Christian, "faith deconstructions", allegorical interpretations of Scripture, sleep and fairies.
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Cooper and Cary talk to the wonderful Brant Hansen about "The Men We All Need". What is a man for, exactly? And what should Adam have done in the Garden?
Brant's book, The Men We Need, is here:
This was just the first 30 minutes of the conversation! Listen to the rest, for free, here:
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Cooper & Cary talk to musician and pastor Jonathan Herring about jazz, why some people really hate it, and what it's got to do with Christianity - and indeed what it may be saying about eternity (depending on how you feel when you're listening to it).
Find out more about The Roots of Jazz.
You can watch the first half hour over on our YouTube channel.
This show is only 43 mins. Want more? Do you find yourself longing for...
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Cooper and Cary have words about whether you should do the following during a Sunday service: use grape juice and Doritos for the Lord's Supper, play musical instruments, wear clothes when preaching, and use a microphone. Also: is Powerpoint of the devil? We're talking about the Regulative Principle and why it's (mostly) great.
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That tweaked theme tune should tell you that Cooper and Cary are having words with friend of the show, Reformed Mythologist, Nate Morgan Locke about fairies. Literal fairies. Or Faeries if you're trying to look clever. Do they exist? Could they? And why do they keep popping up in popular culture all over the world, across thousands of years?
The book that kicked off the discussion, Robert Kirk's "The Secret Commonwealth: Of Elves, Fauns, and Fairies. US Amazon / UK Amazon
Listen to Cary and Morgan lock talk about Dragons on Popcorn Parenting.
Here's that Not Just the Tudors podcast about Christmas Ghost Stories.
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Cooper & Cary have words with Andrew Sach about agnosticism. Is it the humble, wise way to go? Andrew's written a book with Jonathan Gemmell, Are You 100% Sure You Want To Be An Agnostic.
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Cooper and Cary have words about productivity. En route, we discover that Barry once sold books door to door (very badly), marvel at Mark Wahlberg's timetable, and consider Jesus' view of productivity. Also: is it sinful to ignore emails?
Watch the video of this episode - which is fifteen minutes longer - on our YouTube Channel
Some of the resources mentioned:
- Ploductivity by Douglas Wilson
- Reagan Rose's redeemingproductivity.com
- The Art of Manliness podcast episode “Become A Focused Monotasker”
- John Mark Comer’s podcast Fight Hustle, End Hurry
- Zeal without Burnout by Christopher Ash
- What's Best Next by Matt Perman
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Cooper and Cary look back on 2021 and ahead to 2022 in terms of highlights and low-lights, both in books, TV, films and bad habits. With much better sound quality. And Cary has words about Don't Look Up. And there are quite a lot of jingles.
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Cooper and Cary have words with fine artist Alastair Gordon about why art matters, and why that would need explaining to us. We also ask: what should Christians make of the artist Tracy Emin? Or religious icons? And what does this have to do with Ferris Bueller?
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Ally's book, Why Art Matters:
Ally's podcast, Faith In The Arts
CS Lewis' essay, Is Theology Poetry? (pdf)
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Cooper and Cary have words about the ecumenical movement, how and why we just can't get it together this side of glory and maybe that's okay. How did Billy Graham, John Stott and Martin Lloyd Jones manage these issues. Cooper talks about Evangelicalism Divided by Iain H Murray and Cary has another swipe at Pilgrim's Progress.
James gives Bunyan's magnum opus a good kicking in The Gospel According A Sitcom Writer.
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For the first time in FOREV-AHHHH - well, 5 years - Cooper and Cary sit in the same room together. In this live Q+A, they discuss what on earth is going through their minds when they podcast, the benefits (and drawbacks) of working from notes, and whose idea it was to have stupid jingles in an extremely SERIOUS theological podcast.
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Brits and Americans tend to feel very differently about guns and hunting - and animals. Is our our culture just too squeamish? So Cooper and Cary have words with Coops' pastor Larry, who hunts but isn't into guns. (And yet he owns 12 of them.)
In the episode, Larry referred to the Pace Brothers Films on YouTube.
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Cooper & Cary have words about another deadly sin: pride. Along the way, they talk about how pride has embarrassed them personally, and Cooper explains his email habits and why he agreed to Cary's hare-brained plan to start a podcast together - to beat pride.
The word of the episode is "protean". That's "protean".
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Episode 55 of C&C It's A Kind of Malick
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Cooper & Cary have words with Steve Jeffery about postmillennialism, and why it matters. How did a Christian British man come to be so optimistic about the future of the world? Also, some differences between US and UK churches, why the wise men followed the star, the dating of the New Testament and how we don’t appreciate the significance of the Temple. The Word of the Podcast is: Preterism.
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Pierced for Our Transgressions by Steve Jeffery and some other dudes.
If you're £35 interested, you can get He Shall Have Dominion: A Postmillennial Eschatology by Kenneth L Gentry
Cover Art: Salisbury Cathedral From the East by Anthony McCallum
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Cooper and Cary have words about whether or not believers will receive different degrees of "reward" in the new creation.
9Marks Says No.
Desiring God (And Jonathan Edwards) Say Yes.
The Gospel Coalition Says Mmmmaybe.
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Cooper and Cary have words with Randy Newman. Yeah, that Randy Newman that we spoke to in Episode 63, author of one of Cary's fave books, Questioning Evangelism. And now author of a new book about Evangelism and CS Lewis. As usual, Randy is great fun. And his book, Mere Evangelism, is here.
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Barry and James have words with author / historian / definitely NOT apologist John Dickson (@johnpauldickson), whose new book is all about the very checkered history of the Church. Does religion poison everything, as Christopher Hitchens maintained? What are we to make of the Crusades, for example?
- Bullies & Saints by John Dickson
- Undeceptions (John's podcast)
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Cooper and Cary have words about what we can learn from The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill podcast from Christianity Today and what we're hearing on The Roys Report. The word of the day is 'arrant'.
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Barry and James have words with the excellent Rhys Laverty about creationism: young earth, old earth, and points in between. What are the non-negotiables where it comes to interpreting Genesis? Is it important to believe that the days described in Genesis chapter 1 are literal 24 hour days? Does it matter whether or not Adam was a literal person? And what does "ineffable" even mean?
- The Davenant Institute
- Rhys' Ad Fontes podcast
- Rhys' For Now We See podcast
- Is Genesis History? (Documentary)
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Cooper and Cary have words about how we try to avoid sanctification and do Christian things in order to avoid it or achieve it - and whether Cooper has been wasting his life aiding and abetting evangelism.
The book referred to is:
Dynamics of Spiritual Life: An Evangelical Theology of Renewal by Richard Lovelace
Barry guests on his pastor’s podcast to talk about the chapter of Lovelace’s book called “The Sanctification Gap“.
We refer to these episodes:
Cooper and Cary Episode 42 We Are the Birds (Join Patreon for access)
Cooper and Cary Episode 63 Unlikely Converts with Randy Newman (Join Patreon for access)
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Cooper and Cary have words with Ben Clube about artificial intelligence, the gulf between humans and machines, and how technology changes us. He's thought a lot about tech, and not just as a way of justifying spending months playing Doom, Quake or Final Fantasy VI. Also, Cary mentions That Hideous Strength. Again.
- Ben’s YouTube channel
- The Singularity Is Near by Ray Kurtzweil
- Homo Deus by Yuval Harari
- 2084 by John Lennox
- 12 Ways Your Phone Is Changing You by Tony Reinke
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Cooper puts Cary on the spot about his new book, The Gospel According To A Sitcom Writer in which Cary reads between the lines, fabricates some parables and has a proper go at Pilgrim's Progress.
To order the book, go to jamescary.co.uk
The book about John's Gospel in which Jesus is like the Scarlet Pimpernel that Cary flounders around trying to remember is John's Gospel (New Testament Readings) by Revd Dr Mark W G Stibbe
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Cooper and Cary have words with author and historian Dr Stephen Nichols about Jonathan and Sarah Edwards, Martin and Katie Luther, and the subject of his brand new biography, Dr RC Sproul.
- Jesus: Made In America by Stephen Nichols
- Jonathan Edwards: A Guided Tour Of His Life And Thought by Stephen Nichols
- Marriage to a Difficult Man: The Uncommon Union of Jonathan & Sarah Edwards by Elisabeth Dodds
- R. C. Sproul: A Life by Stephen Nichols
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James and Barry talk about the Ascension, and then delve into the mailbag. Among other things, they wrestle manfully with the worms uncanned by Barry's views on singleness, whether musical comedy is funny enough, whether Christians should create entertainment, whether Arminians are almost Open Theists, and whether God ever changes his mind about things.
- How important is the style of music a church sings? (9Marks).
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James and Barry have words about leaving a local church. What are good and bad reasons to leave, and what are good and bad reasons to stay? Along the way, there's discussion about weird people in your congregation, driving past good churches, and yet another disparaging reference to reggae. Note: this podcast does not constitute pastoral advice, financial advice, marital advice, or medical advice. Terms and conditions definitely apply.
- Aaron Renn, The Structural Weaknesses of Christian Community (Issue 15 of The Masculinist).
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James and Barry talk about utopias: past, present and future; fictional, and all too real.
The Faber Book of Utopias by John Carey
Jonestown: Terror In The Jungle documentary
Wild, Wild Country documentary
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Cooper and Cary have words with author and Psalm lover, Matt Searles who explains why the Psalms are so important and why instruments will actually affect your theology - and James somehow explains why he doesn't like Reggae. Matt happened to be passing when Lion Hudson wanted a new book about the Bible (true story) so he explains how it came to be 56 chapters long.
Find out more about Psalms for Weary Souls - Tumbling Skies
Get hold of God's Story by Matt Searles via Amazon UK
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Controversial subject alert. Cooper and Cary have words about homeschooling. Why school your children at home if your tax dollars/pounds are already paying for a government-run education? What is "a good education", biblically speaking? And what does a homeschooler (like James) say to the most frequently posed objections to homeschooling?
- Dumbing Us Down by John Taylor Gatto
- Sir Ken Robinson's TED talk, Do Schools Kill Creativity?
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Cooper and Cary have words with Carl Trueman, another Brit lurking around the USA for no good reason. Carl is the author of the highly acclaimed The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution. Barry and James have words about that, as well as Carl's taste in music, natural law, and what we're missing by ignoring the Church Fathers and medieval theologians. Plus some encouraging words about the Youth of Today.
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James and Barry have words about Ravi Zacharias and another devastating sexual scandal. Warning: includes adult themes.
- Report of Independent Investigation into the Sexual Misconduct of Ravi Zacharias (Feb 9th, 2021)
- Video: Glen Scrivener (Speak Life) - Ravi Zacharias is Amnon
- Tanya Marlow, 5 Things Christians Must Stop Saying About Sexual Abusers.
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James and Barry have words about Bitcoin. What is it, why is it, and - most importantly - should you? They also discuss Ponzi schemes, the most expensive pizza ever, and the colour of bdellium. Note: neither of the hosts are financial experts. As will become obvious. But you should probably pick up some bdellium.
- The Missing Cryptoqueen (Radio 4)
- What You Should Know About Bitcoin (Joe Carter, Gospel Coalition)
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Cooper and Cary raise a glass and have more words about making it to one hundred episodes. What lessons, if any, have they learned? There must be something, surely? Surely.
They also delve into the mailbag and end up talking about parenting, boredom, astrology, the NHS (again) and all kinds of things. This episode was recorded live on YouTube and you can watch the whole debacle unfolding here. (Skip the first ten minutes. Seriously)
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In the second of two episodes, Cooper is in the hotseat as Cary plays Desert Island Discs. Cooper choses one song that explained his life at the time but didn't know it. And he has a surprisingly timed rant about electronic music. Here's Barry's list on Spotify and Apple Music.
Next time, Episode 100 will be streaming live on the Cooper and Cary YouTube channel here.
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Finally we get to talk about music, that Cooper has always wanted to Have Words about. And Cary has resisted. Until now.
In the first of two episodes, Cooper and Cary play Desert Island Discs. This time, Cary picks out ten tracks that are significant in his life which may explain why he is such a contrarian.
Here is James's list on Spotify and Apple Music.
Hey you! Yes you, the disarmingly intelligent and discerning one. Would you like longer, uncut versions of each new episode, in video format, several days in advance? All this and more will be yours, when you become a Cooper & Cary Patron. You also get lots of other exciting goodies, the chance to talk more about issues raised by the show, and the unbridled approval of all other human beings.
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What do you do of a Sunday? Or is the Lord's Day? Or Resurrection Day? How do you feel about emptying the dishwasher or ironing? Do we need rest? Why don't we want to? And why do we have seven day weeks? Cooper and Cary Have all kinds of Words about the Sabbath.
The 7-Day Work Week Experiment – And the Wisdom of The Day of Rest by Joel Gascoigne
3 articles from Gospel Coalition
Why Christians should be sabbatarians
3 Reasons why Sunday is not the Sabbath
Sabbath: An Enduring Principle For the Soul
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Our theme music is by Roger Taylor and his latest album is The Rubicon Moment. Production and incidental music by Cooper & Cary.
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