Growth with Matt Bilotti: Recent Episodes

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“Growth” has inundated the tech scene, but for many of us, it’s really just a phrase (and few can actually explain what it means). Drift’s Senior Product Lead, Matt Bilotti, is tired of just nodding and smiling at the term. So every other Wednesday, he meets with other growth experts for 30 minutes to learn how they drive revenue through all sorts of growth strategies, tactics, and channels. Tune in for insights from companies like Shopify, Disney+, and Github.

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In this episode, Matt takes a trip down memory lane and shares an update on the podcast.

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In this episode, we welcome back one of the world's leading growth experts, Guillaume "G" Cabane, to zoom out and look at the entire function of growth. We talk about where it came from, what drives trends, and what people can expect from growth in the next 5-10 years.

If you operate anywhere near a marketing or growth function, this episode is going to give you the perspective you need to stay ahead of the curve both for your own professional career — and the success of your marketing campaigns and growth experiments.

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On growth teams, we often think of testing as our main way to learn about what users care about and are most interested in. In this episode, we talk about a major untapped angle for growth teams — design research.

When Matt was at HubSpot and and Brian Balfour joined the team as VP of Growth, he spent the entire first month as a growth team only doing research before beginning any experiments in order to understand the needs, wants, and problems of the users.

Joined by Matt's co-worker, Laura Oxenfeld (UX Research Manager at Drift), this episode is all about the different types of design research (generative, concept validation, and usability testing) and how they can be applied to the growth process. We apply the growth lens to each type of research and also cover how you can and should think about resourcing design research on your growth teams.

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What is "growth" engineering, and how does it different from "classic" engineering?

If you ask Ram Navan, who leads the pricing and monetization growth teams at Airtable, "classic" engineers create value for their customers, while "growth" engineers connect customers to the value of their product.

Whew, that's a lot.

Which is why, in this episode of Growth, Ram explains to Matt all the details that make up a successful growth engineering team -- from finding the team's purpose, to hiring for growth engineers, to measurement and prioritization, and more.

Think of it as your handbook to growth engineering.

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Interested in leading a product-led growth strategy at your organization but not sure where to begin? This Growth episode explores three different motions you can use to accelerate growth for your online business.

Rajan Sheth is a growth advisor, former VP of Growth and Self-Service at JumpCloud, and former Senior Director of Growth, GTM, and Marketing at Heroku. He's taken both a bottoms-up and tops-down approach to product-led growth models and has integrated them with self-service and sales-led motions, too. Needless to say, he's seen it all.

In this Growth episode, Rajan explains the three motions that make up product-led growth models for online businesses: Self-service, product-qualified lead, and sales-assisted/sales-led. He breaks down what each motion is, how to determine which model is right for your business, the economics behind each motion, and how to structure each motion to generate demand.

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AdRoll, a digital marketing and growth platform, has been a player in the retargeting space for 15+ years. But a few years ago, the company realized it needed to branch outside of just the retargeting category in order to build long-term relationships with its customers. This led to one big, looming question: how was AdRoll supposed to enter a new category after spending such a long time playing in one space?

The answer: content marketing.

Julie Zhou, VP of Growth at AdRoll, credits a content strategy focused on breadth, instead of depth, to AdRoll's expansion success. Through this strategy, Julie's team was able to figure out what content resonated with their customers and how to engage prospects at scale.

On this episode of Growth, Julie and colleague Shae Henrie (AdRoll's senior content manager) join Matt to talk about what the process behind a broad content strategy looked like, how they narrowed it down as they figured out what content resonated, and why product, growth, and content teams should always be in lockstep.

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A robust product education strategy is like an onion. It has many layers depending on where the customer is at in their product journey. When done correctly, product education will drive growth for both your customer and your business.

On this episode of Growth, Matt sits down with Mark Kilens, Drift's VP of Content and Community and one of the founding members of both Drift Insider and Hubspot Academy. Matt and Mark discuss how to first approach a product education strategy, the importance of cross-pollination between product teams and content marketing teams, and if certifications should be part of your education strategy.

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Willie Tran hates winning.

Ok, maybe that's an exaggeration; but Willie does hate when growth teams are only focused on winning.

On this episode of Growth, Willie explains why he's led his growth teams away from a culture of winning, what he's focused on instead, and how all growth teams can (and should) change their narrative.

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We’ve talked a lot about the different areas of growth on this podcast, but there’s one topic we still haven’t hit: partnerships. Partnerships go hand in hand with growth - creating a channel for companies to expand. In this episode, Chris Samila, VP of Partnerships at Crossbeam, and Matt Nicosia, Director of Growth at Crossbeam discuss different examples of partnerships and how they play a role in growth.

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Rachael Tiow, the director of ABM and lifecycle marketing at Auth0, has spent three years building an account-based marketing team from the ground up. Now, she's ready to share what she's learned to help you think about what makes a successful ABM strategy at your organization.

Whether you have an existing ABM strategy, or you're thinking about implementing one for the first time at your organization, Rachael shares tips applicable to both. Hear her thoughts on a one-to-one vs. one-to-many ABM approach, her four components to any successful ABM strategy, and how to adapt ABM strategies to market shifts.

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New year, new growth strategy? It doesn't have to be.

In the first episode of 2022, Matt shares his eight tips for executing a strong growth strategy in the new year. Hint: It doesn't involve reinventing the wheel.

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We've talked about what it takes to implement a product-led growth model at companies, but what about a sales-led growth model? In this episode, Holly Chen, the founder, chief marketing officer, and growth advisor of ExponentialX -- a Growth and Marketing Advisory and Coaching Collective -- takes us through this inverse approach.

Holly has led growth at companies like Google and Slack and now sits on the boards of fast-growing companies ServiceNow and Workstream HQ. Through all of these roles, she's seen companies go from a product-led growth model to a sales-led growth model, and the inverse. So what makes a transition between models successful? How do you set your team up for success in either model? Holly answers these questions and more over the next 27 minutes.

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The world of non-fungible tokens (NFTs) is growing fast, but why? In this episode, host Matt Bilotti extracts eight growth tactics he sees NFT communities using, and he puts them into context for all growth experts to leverage in their own businesses.

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Wondering what the secret is to converting more of your homepage visitors with video? Danielle Diamond, of Epiq media, has figured it out, and she's sharing her learnings in this episode.

Danielle was an early Drifter before she went on to work at agencies whose clients included Warner Brothers, ABC, and FabFitFun. Now, she's the founder of EpiqMedia - a creative team that focuses on content for B2B marketing serving clients like SNL, Oreo, and InVisalign.

In this episode, Danielle talks with Matt about what video production should look like at every stage of the funnel, the importance of being human in B2B marketing, and the strategies she's used to increase homepage conversions by 40%.

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Connor Gross sold his first company for seven figures when he was in college.

A year later, he's co-founded another company, Respoke Collections, and advises e-commerce companies on how they can level up their strategy.

In this episode, Connor takes Matt through the three stages of the e-commerce funnel and shares the strategies he's found most successful in getting both top-of-funnel ads and post-purchase upsells to convert.

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Annie Mosbacher was a practitioner of customer retention and growth for 15 years, but in 2021, she decided it was time for a change and went out to start her own growth marketing agency. That move has turned this year into one of her happiest professional years.

In this episode, Annie explains why she knew it was time to start her own growth marketing agency, how her practitioner experience influences prioritization, and how she and her co-founder balance in-the-weeds versus high-strategy work.

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We're throwing it back to one of the most interesting episodes of the show.

In 2019 Nationbuilder's then VP of Customer Success and Growth Marketing, Annie Mosbacher, and Director of Product, Jason Meer, sat down with Matt to tell him about a time when they created a brilliant customer use case out of negative customer behavior. Find out how Annie and Jason worked together to roll out a new use case that helped NationBuilder decrease churn and increase upsell and reactivation potential.

And make sure to tune back into Growth for a new episode with Annie all about her new role advising other companies on growth strategies coming soon!

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In order to be a growth marketer, there's some key language you should know and tactics you should master. But you don't have to learn them all at once. In this episode Shopify's VP of Growth, Morgan Brown, and Director of Growth, Lindsay Craig, explain what the skills are that make up a successful growth marketer, and how they've learned them along the way.

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Startup programs are becoming more and more popular in SaaS, but they aren't always thought of from the perspective of a growth strategy, and because of that, they're not always used and measured to their maximum potential. Brianne Kimmel built out the startups program at Zendesk before founding Worklife Ventures. In this episode, she and Matt Bilotti, who manages Drift's startup program, debunk the myths surrounding the programs, discuss what makes a good startup program good, and how you should align your program to take the weight OFF of your sales team. Whether your company has an existing startup program, or is thinking of starting one, this episode is a must listen.

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Most companies have 5-15 advisors. But Sendoso...they've got hundreds! In this episode, Kris Rudeegraap, the CEO and co-founder of Sendoso, explains why he chose to have so many advisors, why they're all equity advisors, how he leverages them as a growth channel, and how he manages such a large network.

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Have you ever tried to grow your product's user base through the system of another product? What about build your product from scratch on top of another product's ecosystem? Ankith Harathi did both with his two products, Marlo and Macro.

In this episode, Matt and Ankith discuss what that process looked like, growth clusters, optimizing for feedback, and the three core decisions Ankith and his co-founder, John Keck, made that turned Macro into a conversation topic at the start of all meetings.

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What the heck is a PQL? And how is one of the best tech companies out there implementing it? While it stands for product qualified lead, what that actually means is a little different for every company. In this episode, VP of Growth Thibault Imbert and senior director of revenue marketing, Morgan Palomares, of GitHub, explain how they define a product qualified lead, how they are implementing the mindset and workflows at Github, and how they plan to measure success.

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We've covered tons of different channels, tactics, and strategies on this podcast. Revenue expansion (how to think about it, optimize for it, strategize around it) is something we haven't covered yet. In this episode, we're joined by Hana Abaza, Director of Global Marketing at Shopify, who shares tons of insights, examples, and advice for how you can drive expansion revenue, too.

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Striking the right balance between incremental improvements and big, channel or market-shifting bets on a growth team is critical. In this episode, we talk through how three growth legends think about striking this balance, what good looks like, what systems they use, how team size and structure alters their approach, and what they do if their team is falling off track. The folks in this episode were all guests multiple times before on the podcast: Morgan Brown, VP of Growth at Shopify Hila Qu, VP of Growth at GitLab, and Thibault Imbert, VP of Growth at GitHub.

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When spinning up a new growth team, the first 6 months is often treated as the time for the team to prove it's value. But what about after that? What does good look like at that 6 month mark and how do you continue to evolve from there? We'll talk through all of this and more with Hila Qu, VP of Growth at GitLab and Thibault Imbert, VP of Growth at GitHub.

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The very first growth hire on any team is an absolutely critical one. In this episode, Hila (VP of Growth at GitLab) and Matt break down how you should approach that first hire from a focus, skill set, seniority, and structure standpoint. Lots of insights from this conversation both for the folks doing the hiring and the ones trying to be that first hire.

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Many see Product Led Growth (PLG) as a sure-ticket to growth. But often times, it doesn't work out. With two industry leaders, Morgan Brown (VP of Growth at Shopify) & Laura Borghesi (VP of Growth at ClassPass), we talk all about when PLG works, when it doesn't, and how you can up your chances of success.

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Data has always been a tool in the growth/marketing toolkit. In the last few years, intent data has become a more and more popular set of information to leverage to drive better results. In this episode, Matt chats with Kate Athmer, VP of Growth at Bombora, about how teams should think about intent data, mistakes she often sees, and other tips and tricks on how to leverage it.

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This is a question I hear all the time. In this episode, I break down some of the ownership, skill set, and strategic differences between operating in a growth-focused product manager role vs. a classic product management role on a product team.

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Joined by two of the most well respected folks in the growth space, this episode is an honest take on how even the best make progress in situations of high ambiguity. There's a strong narrative that exists that drives people to focus too much having perfect data to make decisions, building an explicit system before getting started with growth, and so much more. In this episode, Morgan Brown (VP of Growth at Shopify + Author of Hacking Growth), Thibault Imbert (VP of Growth at Github and most recently was Director of Growth at Adobe for 4 years), and Matt give listeners a look into how to cut through the noise of a perfect system and find ways to make an impact. And how it's okay when things get a bit messy.

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Email. Decades after showing up as a core channel for brands and companies to communicate with leads and customers, it been making a bit of a resurgence lately as a growth channel. While (basically) every company does email in some way, and it's always been important, we're seeing companies and individuals build huge followings via newsletters (and even becoming acquisition targets as a result). In this episode Ilona Abramova, VP of Operations at AppSumo, breaks down the fundamentals around email: how to approach it, what works, and what doesn't.

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Bird is a classic example of a company with a complicated two-sided marketplace that achieved explosive growth. While spending two years on the growth team at Bird, a rentable scooter company, Declan Bond Schweitzer helped execute growth strategies and tactics in different markets on both the supply & demand side of the business. In this episode, we talk about some of the core lessons learned with tons of great examples of what they did on the team there.

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Will has had a storied career across tons of cool companies (Disney, Twitch, Dropbox, Etsy, Ebay, Oscar Health, and more), where he's worked on many different aspects of growth. Throughout the years, he's seen the growth role from many different perspective and watched it evolve and change over time. In this episode he shares insights on where growth has come from, how different parts of the role have been commoditized, and what we can expect of the growth function in coming years.

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Going from nothing to a fully functional growth team is an experiment in and of itself. In this episode, Matt is joined by Melissa Tan, who is a growth advisor at places like Grammarly, Canva and has held growth roles at Dropbox and others. Having an eye into some of the best performing growth teams out there, she's seen what works and what doesn't. We talk through everything from deciding if a product-led growth is right for you, setting goals, hiring and building that team, getting that team rolling, and how to evolve it over time.

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Headspace is a fundamentally mission-driven company that operates for profit. In this episode, Matt chats with Keya Patel, Director of Product at Headspace, to talk all about how her growth teams find a balance between boosting the numbers and doing what's best for their members. Spoiler…in a lot of cases, those things are one in the same! Keya talks us through two key examples from Headspace that highlight how they approach this tricky topic.

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I recently came across a blog article titled "From 169 Customers to 8,266 in 28 Days: How Frase Built the Biggest AppSumo Launch Ever" and knew I had to have someone from that team join me on the podcast. In this episode, we break down the approach, execution, and lasting impact of what was a true 10x (and more in some cases) experiment.

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In this special crossover episode, Matt is joined by Maggie Crowley (host of Build) and Sean Lane (host of Operations) to take you behind the scenes of Drift’s podcast program. You’ll learn how the hosts prepare for new episodes, the biggest lessons they’ve learned after recording 50+ episodes each, the best piece of advice they’ve received from their guests, and what listeners can expect in 2021. Want to hear what Matt says is the most rewarding part of hosting Growth? Listen to the full episode to find out.

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Before teams run an experiment, they often ask themselves what data they want to track so that they can build that into the experiment in the first place. In this short episode, Matt talks through what a better and best version of this planning looks like. That way, you and your team can ask the right questions and have effective planning conversations before your next experiment.

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Coming from one of the most well known growth teams in B2C (Pinterest), Wendy Lu recently made the switch to B2B by leading Growth Engineering at Airtable. In this episode, we dig into the nuts and bolts of what that transition has been like -- what is the same, what is super different, and what some of the lessons learned are as she takes on this new learning curve of B2B growth.

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The role of data science can be absolutely critical in a company's ability to structure, run, and measure experiments. In this episode, Matt is joined by Maura Church, the Director of Data Science at Patreon, and they dig deep into experimentation and metric design. This is a really fun one if you love geeking out about data and experimentation! And especially helpful if you're adding data science resources to your team and want to know how to leverage them best.

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One of the people that pioneered and popularized Account Based Marketing (ABM), Jon Miller was a co-founder and VP of marketing at Marketo, CEO and Co-founder at Engagio, and is currently the Chief Product Officer at Demandbase. In this episode, we cover what types of companies should be doing ABM, how to get started, and how to run and measure a successful ABM strategy. It's the all-you-need-to-know about making ABM work for your business.

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Transitioning to a product-led growth model is all the hype these days. I wanted to peel back some of the layers of what it actually looks like when successful, which is why I asked Laura Borghesi to join. She's currently the VP of growth at Gympass and has most recently developed a PLG motion at MongoDB with prior roles at Google and Stripe. Listen in to hear how to think about getting leadership bought in, making investments, measuring success, and more!

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We have a lot of guests on this podcast that dive deep into specific channels or tactics. And they all sound AMAZING because they worked for the guest and plenty of other companies. In this episode, I wanted to take a step back and talk about understanding when, why, and how a channel will work for you. I also share some examples of how we've approached this at Drift over the years.

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Blitzscaling, the book, was introduced in 2018 and built upon principles that Chris Yeh and Reid Hoffman developed over decades of working in tech and startups. In this episode, Matt sits down with Chris and talks all about how the COVID-19 pandemic have impacted the principles of blitzscaling. We cover what is different, what is the same, and what people in any type of growth role can be thinking about as the world continues to shift around us.

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Product-Led SEO is the approach that companies like Zillow, Pinterest, Amazon, and so many more have continued to scale and grow organically. In this episode, Bill King (who does acquisition marketing at Drift) and Matt catch up with one of the leading SEO experts in the world, Eli Schwartz. Eli was the Director of Growth & SEO at Surveymonkey where he developed and refined his approach. Today, he's an advisor and consultant with heavy-hitter brands like Quora, Shutterstock, Zendesk, Gusto, and so much more. We dig into product-led SEO and talk about what it is, how it works, how to know if it's right for you, and how to make it happen.

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There is a strategy that consistently beats Facebook's advertising platform at its own game. What sounds like "just another hack" is instead both a better philosophy and framework that enables you to consistently outperform your existing digital ad strategies. In this episode, Matt welcome's back Rachel Barge (Founder & Growth Marketer at Leap Grow) alongside her partner in crime for digital advertising, Kevin Okie (Founder & Growth Marketer at Wyvern9). They talk all about their approach, called granularity, and talk you through exactly how to execute it on your own.

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By now you're definitely familiar with referral systems and maybe even used a few to get a free ride with Lyft, a free stock on Robinhood, or an Amazon gift card from another app. While referral systems may seem plug and play, building a successful one is way more like developing a new product or channel than it is "implementing it because it works." In this episode, Matt is joined by Maria Cuasay who built referral systems at Lyft and Opencare and is currently a senior PM at Sprout Therapy. We break down the principles behind a great referral system, outstanding examples, benchmarks, and what it will take to build your own successful referral system.

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TV advertising feels to many like a massive leap from any advertising channels they're maybe more used to. Philip joins Matt to talk all about how, in today's age, TV advertising is way more similar to those familiar channels in terms of deploying and measuring impact. In this episode, we talk about how to approach TV from a creative, budgeting, measurement, and strategic perspective. There was a ton Matt learned in this one - hope you get some takeaways, too!

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Coming from a world where writing things down felt like a "waste of time" Rachel Barge (Founder & Growth Marketer at Leap Grow and multi-time awesome guest on this podcast) has converted into a firm believer that great documentation matters for anyone in a growth role. A lot. For many reasons. In this episode we talked through what changed her mind, why this matters, and what good documentation looks like at every level for you and your team.

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No matter if you work in marketing or product, write ads, develop landing pages, or build onboarding flows, copywriting is essential. It spans the entire growth function and can make or break experiments (and the better you are, the more money you'll make and save). In this episode, Sarah Stockdale (CEO & Founder of Growclass) breaks down what make great copy, talks examples, and gives you the tools you need to level up.

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After developing the Power Sellers program at eBay, Shira has built incredible communities at scale for Sephora, Zynga, and DC Comics over the years. When you build up programs with thousands or millions of active and engaged members, you might imagine it becomes incredibly difficult to build authentic relationships with that community. In this episode, Shira breaks down how it's possible and how you can and should think about community development in your market.

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Being able to seamlessly transition between roles, industries, and business models is something Hannah Russin (CMO at Embark) has done throughout her career, which includes growth roles at Lyft, Adroll, SpeedDate, as a consultant, and so much more. In this episode, we talk all about the core skills she has learned are transferrable no matter the industry or business model.

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It's easy to think that growth staffing decisions are binary between either: an in-house hire OR working with a contractor/agency. In this episode, Tyler Elliston (Founder and Marketing Strategist), walks us through how the true gray area in between those two options is where success or failures of performance growth investments are most likely determined.

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Most brands run podcasts to build their reach...Krystina Rubino (Head of Offline Growth) builds reach for brands using podcasts. In this episode, we get meta and talk all about investing in podcasts as an advertising and growth channel. We cover what good looks like, what type of investment you should consider, when it's time to invest, and so much more.

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We're living in an uncertain time right now, which means a lot of your growth funnels and channels might be seeing major changes. In this episode, Matt talks through the 5 things you should be doing right now from a growth perspective.

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While the fundamentals of writing code remain the same for an engineer, whether on product or growth are going to remain the same, the approach and cadence of work between the two definitely has differences. Matt is joined by Alex Melagrano, who switched from traditional product engineering to growth engineering at Drift about a month ago. Tune in to learn all about his learnings during that journey. Like this episode? Be sure to leave a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ review and share the pod with your friends! You can connect with Matt on Twitter: @MattBilotti @HYPERGROWTH_pod

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The Dropbox race for space, Spotify’s sharing of “now playing” into Facebook news feeds. Paypal’s “Give $10, get $10,” Mailbox’s waiting list – all of these are examples of some of the most successful growth campaigns that started new trends to drive product adoption. In this episode, Matt and Emily Lonetto (Head of Growth at Voiceflow) riff on all these popular campaigns and talk about what would and would not be successful in today’s environment. Tune in for a fun jam sesh on the growth world’s greatest hits.

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You've got aggressive growth targets and decide it's time to bring in reinforcements. Maybe it's an agency. Maybe they screw up. Maybe they screw up big time. How do you get back on track? On this episode of Growth, Matt sits down with Rachel Barge – founder of Leap Grow and frequent cleaner upper of agency messes. Rachel and Matt dive into warning signs, ideal agency formulas, and how to take action when a project is going off the rails.

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Matt is back with Hila Qu, VP of Growth at Acorns. They discuss what growth looks like in the Western market; hint, it's become one of the hottest terms in China over the last two to three years. Although the US is ahead of the Chinese market in practicing growth, China has invested in catching up. Join us as we uncover truths behind leading companies (like TikTok and WeChat) – and how they are adopting growth models and how their successes are influencing other businesses to mimic these programs to stay competitive.

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The end to end customer experience has become a priority for both customer acquisition and retention. There have been significant trends as of late highlighting the importance of establishing an official community as part of the growth strategy. Matt sits down with Emily Lonetto, Head of Growth at Voiceflow, to discuss how this collection of power users of a product can be your company’s greatest asset. They address creating a space for these deeply integrated customers to communicate with each other, the difference between community and word of mouth, and successful ambassador programs. You will finish this episode inspired to give more attention to your community goals, target the demographic of people who are obsessed with a product, and invest in experimenting within your community.

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Traditionally startups will establish their product market fit and then focus on rolling out a growth team. There are a lot of hurdles with this sequencing, specifically when companies don't invest in growth until after becoming a more established organization and are growing quickly. Matt and Hila Qu, VP of Growth at Acorns, discuss their experiences with being the first growth person at a company. They talk through how to confirm alignment to earn growth buy-in and trust from leadership, goals to set as a growth leader, and experimentation and levers to improve retention. You will gain a stronger sense of timelines for introducing growth at your organization and how reshaping existing teams to be holistic growth teams can accelerate your group to the next level.

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Historically, data-driven cultures are formed once the organization has built momentum. Now, companies are focusing on empowering their early selves to integrate metrics, set quota goals, and leverage user results from the start. Matt breaks down how and what it means to be a growth minded company out of the gate with Datacamp’s CRO, Weston Stearns. They talk hiring for data and for impact, the best tools to train your team to make data driven decisions, and design optimization parameters. You will be inspired to evaluate your organization on the basis of leveraging funnels and experimentation, annualized total lifetime value, and decentralized teams as part of a growth toolkit.

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SEO has continually proven to be both a significant opportunity and challenge for start-ups and larger organizations across industries. Matt sits down with Drift’s very own Bill King to learn more about SEO in a variety of contexts. They dig into search optimization and growth — how to innovate across an abundance of search platforms, work cross functionally to support strategic initiatives, understand traffic patterns and consumer behaviors, and understand the complicated system of algorithms that rank your sites. You will walk away feeling empowered and ready to devise creative solutions that work well for you and your team.

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Scaling internationally is a common vision for any sized software organization. When and how to go global is not always as clear of a path. Join Matt in a discussion with Joe Wilkinson (Lucidchart's Director of Growth) where they discuss exploring target markets and metrics, localization, the competition, reacting to unpredictable outcomes, and solving for the unknowns.

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One of the trickiest things to figure out and get right is your pricing. And is it ever really...right? On this episode of Growth, Matt sits down with Hannah Chaplin, Director of Product Management at Pendo and former CEO of Receptive, to discuss some of the experiments her team has run on pricing. Hannah and Matt talk about the biggest lessons they've learned along the way and give their best advice on how to approach pricing with a growth mindset at each stage of your business.

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Understanding the core psychological drivers behind the humans using your product can supercharge your growth. And you’re definitely leaving money and product usage on the table if you’re not employing them. So on this episode of Growth (recorded live at HYPERGROWTH Boston), Matt sits downs with Dan Benoni and Louis-Xavier Lavallee, founders of Growth.Design, to talk through some foundational principles of psychology – like mental models, priming, and dark patterns – that will help you design and run better experiments. You'll get a rundown of what each principle means, examples of how other companies are using them, and suggestions for how you can test them out in your next growth experiment.

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What seems like a negative customer behavior for your business can be flipped on its head and turned into a new opportunity. This happened to the team at NationBuilder and they built a brilliant new use case around it. In this episode of Growth, Matt talks to Annie Mosbacher (VP of Customer Success & Growth Marketing) and Jason Meer (Director of Product) to see how they turned this challenge into a big opportunity for NationBuilder. Find out how Annie and Jason worked together to roll out a new use case that helped NationBuilder decrease churn and increase upsell and reactivation potential.

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Growth and product design – are they really all that different? Turns out, it’s not a yes or no answer, so Matt sits down with someone who straddles both worlds. Amanda Yee is a product designer AND growth designer at Drift, and in this episode, she talks about the challenges of designing for products with roadmaps vs. designing for experiments, how working on the growth team has helped her get better at analyzing quantitative data, and the process she uses to uncover new features and identify new opportunities.

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Most growth conversations out there are focused on software...but what about retail? In this conversation, Matt chats with Lauryn Isford (currently on Facebook's Internet.org growth team) who spent some time at Blue Bottle Coffee when they took on spinning up an e-commerce presence. They talk all about how Blue Bottle Coffee approached this expansion opportunity, measured, made decisions, and doubled down on growth levers along the way. Tune in to hear what lessons Lauryn picked up from that experience and what her views are around the future of the retail > e-commerce space.

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Setting goals is hard. And setting goals for your growth team is no exception. So on this episode, Matt shares an inside look at how Drift's growth team thinks about goal setting – including why it's important to get alignment on strategy, how to measure the actual impact of a team, and the role failure plays in goal setting.

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On today's episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti is talking all about testing – A/B testing to be exact. He breaks down the best ways to test, teaches us all about Bayesian Statistics and chats through this and more with Guy Yalif, co-founder and CEO of Intellimize.

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On this episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti walks us through how to pick, plan and execute a growth experiment. Most crucial to getting started? Make sure the experiment you choose gives you a statistically significant dataset from which to start, run your experiment off of and ultimately base your conclusions on.

This experiment framework can apply to all parts of your business. Ready to get started with your own growth experiment? Tune into #Growth now.

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We all want to build products that acquire users. But it's way easier said than done. Or is it? Yes, the marketplace is getting more crowded every day, making it challenging to find new opportunities for growth. But there are still companies that have managed to cut through the noise and win new customers. What's behind their success? On this episode, Matt digs in and shares five tried and true user acquisition strategies inspired by product role models like Dropbox, Zoom, Evernote, Google Analytics, Notion, and Superhuman.

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With customer acquisition costs creeping up higher and higher, a new go-to-market strategy has emerged: product-led growth. In this episode, Matt sits down with Wes Bush – the guy who wrote the book on the subject. Together, Matt and Wes talk about the three things that have contributed to the popularity of product-led growth, examples of SaaS companies that have successfully implemented product-led growth tactics, and why you should think about adding a free trial to your current model. Want to hear Wes's advice for creating an onboarding experience that helps boost conversion? Listen to the full episode.

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On today's episode of Growth, Matt talks about all things activation with Thibault Imbert, Director of Growth for Adobe Creative Cloud. Thibault explains what activation looks like at Adobe – how they define it, set goals around it, and measure it (hint: it's not just about the quantitative).

Then Matt and Thibault take it a layer deeper and discuss a topic near and dear to Matt's heart – experimentation. Thibault shares his advice on how to come up with ideas to experiment and test against the activation metric, how his team thinks about leading vs. lagging indicators, and how they make sure they're not doing something that will hurt retention later down the funnel. Want to find out what Thibault says is his team's north star for activation? Listen to the full episode.

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It's the #1 question growth teams ask other growth teams: What's your process? Because maybe you're struggling to get your team onboard, or you're having a hard time keeping up with your projects and experiments, or something's not quite working, or maybe you just feel like you're not going fast enough. The good news? You're not alone. Everyone gets stuck. So on this episode of Growth, Matt shares a few ways to think about the growth process and useful tools to stay organized, plus he explains why buy-in is so critical and the process that Drift's growth team follows.

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When you’ve already unlocked growth in the enterprise, the only thing to do is to keep going upmarket, right? Wrong. So when Travis Kaufman's (VP of Product Growth at Gainsight) team noticed their data showed a huge drop off (read: huge potential) in the small business segment of their lead funnel, they decided to make their first attempt to go downmarket with a free offering. On this episode of Growth, learn how Travis and his team moved quickly, structured their downmarket experiment, chose the levers, got the rest of the company aligned behind them, and kicked off their journey downmarket.

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Today on Growth, Facebook Messenger's Head of Growth, Darius Contractor, joins Matt to talk through experiment development, design and tracking all using a system Darius developed called EVELYN (Experiment Velocity Engine Lifting Your Numbers). With EVELYN growth teams can input and prioritize their experiments as well as track them all the way from initial specing and design to build and completion.

Matt and Darius also talk through Darius's background in growth, time spent investing, his work at Dropbox and now his tenure as Head of Growth at Facebook Messenger.

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On this episode of Growth, Matt sits down with Dan Laufer, the Director of Growth & Partnerships at Nextdoor – and he's also the person behind what Matt calls the best, most contextual acquisition campaign he has ever seen. We asked Dan to share some background on the campaign – where the idea came from, how they got it up and running, and how the team has optimized it over the last seven years. Want to know what Dan says how to figure out the right offer (and the right channel) for an acquisition campaign? Listen to the full episode.

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Looking to become a data-driven organization? Well, there's no silver bullet, but there are definitely some tricks that Dan Wolchonok, Head of Product and Analytics at Reforge, has picked up along the way. Before joining Reforge (an e-learning company that provides growth masterclasses for product and marketing pros), Dan was a founding member of HubSpot's sales product growth team, and later went on to form the company's product analytics team.

On today's episode of Growth, Matt throws his toughest data questions at Dan. They talk about how to approach historical data and data tracking, how to pick reporting tools, and who should own analytics. Then Matt and Dan go deeper and talk through the thing that separates the top one percent of the companies from the rest – good retention. To hear what Dan has to say about retention curves (and the best way to analyze them), listen to the full episode.

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On this episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti sits down with Greg Skloot, President & COO of Crystal, to discuss a whole new level of personalization. We all know we're targeted online based on past browsing history and offers are often personalized with our name and sometimes location. But are we on the cusp of a whole new level of personalization? One that takes into account personality type and how we might want to be interacted with? Greg and Matt discuss the future of personalization on this episode. Be sure to tune in.

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Today's episode of Growth is all about testing. Matt Bilotti is joined by Drift's growth tech lead Vignesh Mohankumar. Together Matt and Vig discuss the ins and outs of testing products. How should you test the products you're building? When should you test? And equally important – when shouldn't you test? Matt and Vig dig into the considerations you need to keep in mind when testing products and they share real-life examples from building and testing products at Drift. Don't miss out.

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Today on #Growth, Matt is talking all about experimentation. Specifically how to approach changes you might make to your site or product – bite-sized or incremental changes vs. going all out with big swings. Matt breaks this down with a real-world example you've probably faced yourself – updating your homepage. There are pros and cons to both and Matt lays it all out here.

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This week on #Growth, host Matt Bilotti is talking all about data – space data, agriculture data, data science – with the self-proclaimed "data queen" herself, Lauren Moores, VP Data Strategy and Data Sciences at Indigo.

Lauren has spent her whole career chasing data and finding answers to the toughest questions for industries that have undergone significant transformation. Matt and Lauren talk about the evolution of data science and how much it's all changed in just 20 years.

Lauren also shares her pro tips on how to structure data teams through periods of massive growth.

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On today's episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti and Drift's VP of Growth, Guillaume Cabane, answer the million dollar question – when to make your first growth hire (and how). Here are a few hints: Make sure you've found product-market fit, a proven way for people to buy your product and a true customer base.

Growth teams are the most effective when they're able to reduce friction in your acquisition funnel. If there's no funnel...you don't need a growth person. So before even making your first hire, be sure to establish demand and educate the market about your offering.

Also in this episode – how growth teams should communicate with other areas of the business, setting up feedback loops, goal sharing and more.

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On this episode of #Growth, host Matt Bilotti dives deep into the product onboarding experience of Superhuman, an email client and the "fastest email experience ever made."

No matter if you're in B2B or B2C this episode and Superhuman's unique, 1:1 onboarding experience is full of lessons you should steal for your own. Why? Because without stellar onboarding and activation, users will never pay you, stick around or tell their friends about your product. Be sure to catch all this and more on #Growth.

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This week on #Growth host Matt Bilotti sits down with G aka Guillaume Cabane aka the Mad Scientist and Drift's VP of Growth (and Matt's boss – no pressure). 

Today they're talking all about tools – how to use them to accomplish tasks that others might do for 10x the cost or 4x the time. G talks through how he finds new tools (and why always being on the look out for new ones gives him and Drift a competitive edge) plus favorites in his stack and much more in this episode of #Growth.

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What's most important when running any growth experiment? Establishing a control group! Sounds simple, but if you've ever conducted any kind of experiment, you know it's easy to mess up. After all, without a control, you have no way of knowing if your experiment actually made an impact. In this episode, host Matt Bilotti runs through how to set control groups and why they matter. Plus how to accurately measure your experiments without getting lost in a web of intertwining growth hacks.

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Welcome to #Growth, a brand new podcast from Seeking Wisdom hosted by Matt Bilotti, Senior Product Manager on Drift's Growth team. On our first episode, Matt digs into choosing the metric that matters. Plus, Pirate Metrics, mapping out your funnel and more.

In this season you can expect to learn how to run growth experiments, get exclusive interviews from growth leaders and everything else you need to run a successful growth team.