The Joshua Sutherland Podcast: Recent Episodes

Joshua Sutherland

Cutting edge ideas from the world’s leading systems engineering experts.

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Some recent topics include: Model Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), INCOSE, Project Management, System Architecture, Systems Level Design, Systems Engineering, Engineering Management, Teamwork

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗

  • Jolly Pradhan: -- https://www.endtoendinnovation.co/

-- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jollypradhan/

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 Introduction — B2B innovation, building the right thing, notes + Tech Planning Copilot

00:01:32 Jolly Pradhan and End-to-End Innovation Consulting from Idea to Launch

00:03:01 Validating Customer Needs — Avoiding Assumptions & Interviewing Properly

00:06:15 "Build the Right Thing" vs "Build It Right"

00:06:49 Systems Thinking in Practice — Semiconductor Story & Cross-Discipline Integration

00:10:08 De-Risking Early — Stakeholders, Manufacturing Lessons & Avoiding Rework

00:12:49 Prioritisation — Avoiding Paralysis & Focusing on Core Needs

00:15:10 B2B Reality — Integration Over ROI & The Hiring AI Case Study

00:21:24 AI Hype vs Reality — Asking Better Questions & Scaling Responsibly

00:25:49 Scaling & Architecture — Storage, Costs, Requirements Before Build

00:30:12 Lean Startup vs Long-Term Thinking — MVPs, Architecture & Duct-Tape Software

00:38:25 MIT SDM Journey — Career Pivot & Continuous Learning

00:47:14 Innovation Inside Large Firms — Buy-In, Process Mapping & Structured Problem Solving

00:57:55 Final Takeaways — End-to-End Thinking, Assumptions & AI as a Tool

01:06:05 Outro — Links, Notes & Connect with Jolly

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  • Prof. Dov Dori: -- https://dovdori.technion.ac.il/

-- https://professional.mit.edu/programs/faculty-profiles/dov-dori

-- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dov-dori-90973

  • OPCloud: https://www.opcloud.tech/

  • Book: Dori, D. (2016). Model-based systems engineering with OPM and SysML (Vol. 15). New York: Springer.

  • Book: Dori, D. (2002). Object-process methodology: A holistic systems paradigm; with cd-rom. Springer Science & Business Media.

  • ISO 19450:2024 - Object-Process Methodology: https://www.iso.org/standard/84612.html

Selected Papers:

  • Kang, X., Shteingardt, V., Wang, Y., & Dori, D. (2025). Neuro-Conceptual Artificial Intelligence: Integrating OPM with Deep Learning to Enhance Question Answering Quality. arXiv e-prints, arXiv-2502.

  • Dori, Dov. "Model‐based standards authoring: ISO 15288 as a case in point." Systems Engineering 27.2 (2024): 302-314.

  • Yaroker, Y., Perelman, V. and Dori, D. (2013), An OPM conceptual model-based executable simulation environment: Implementation and evaluation. Syst. Engin., 16: 381-390.

  • Somekh, J., Choder, M., & Dori, D. (2012). Conceptual model-based systems biology: Mapping knowledge and discovering gaps in the mRNA transcription cycle. PloS one, 7(12), e51430.

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 Introduction — Who is Dov Dori, what is OPM + PDF notes

00:01:48 OPM fundamentals — objects, processes, diagrams + OPL

00:05:03 Learning OPM quickly — simplicity, books, OPC Cloud

00:07:25 Origin — from information systems to systems engineering

00:14:35 ISO 19450 journey — PAS → ISO, qualitative OPM only

00:16:55 Conceptual → computational OPM — attributes, formulas, simulation

00:18:20 OPM + AI — OPL interpretation, natural language → models

00:24:15 Model-based ISO standards, contradictions, risk modelling

00:35:20 Feedback loops, system dynamics, modelling depth

00:36:50 OPM vs SysML — strengths, diagrams, communication

00:44:20 Beyond engineering — law, contracts, patents, structured knowledge

00:57:30 Neuron demo — OPM in biology + AI narrative generation

01:06:20 Future of OPM — education, kids, neuro-conceptual AGI

01:16:35 Final message

01:17:37 Outro — download PDF notes, buy books, training etc

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William D. Miller: - https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-miller-504a882/

INCOSE Future of Systems Engineering (FuSE):

  • https://www.incose.org/communities/working-groups-initiatives/fuse INCOSE Systems Engineering Vision 2035:

  • https://www.incose.org/publications/se-vision-2035

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 Introduction + who is Bill; PDF summary

00:01:05 At INCOSE IW 2025 — What is the future of SE?

00:01:15 Vision 2035 and shift from process to engineering of systems

00:01:36 The “ilities” challenge — integrating quality metrics

00:01:46 What a chief systems engineer actually does (requirements → sell-off)

00:02:31 Cross-discipline story - the F=ma whiteboard test

00:03:08 Back to our roots — process ≠ outcomes; “engineering of systems”

00:03:51 Four workstreams - foundations, methodology, vision/roadmap, applications

00:04:04 Application extensions beyond aero/defense (incl. healthcare, automotive)

00:04:22 Energy transition focus

00:04:36 Kodiak Island microgrid case (hydro, diesel, wind, crane regen, flywheel)

00:06:32 2003 Northeast blackout — overlooked dependencies at airports

00:07:42 Fukushima lesson — scenario planning (CONOPS) and tsunami risk

00:08:29 How to get involved- search “Systems Engineering Vision 2035”

00:08:57 Be proactive — we can’t be passive about the vision

00:09:45 Vision 2035 structure - trends, current state, future, roadmap (2025/2030/2035)

00:10:53 Parting message - collaborate across the whole systems community

00:11:17 Wrap-up and thanks

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Michael D. Watson: - https://www.incose.org/about-incose/organization/leadership/michael-watson-bio - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-watson-33294183/

NASA/TP–20205003644: Engineering Elegant Systems: - https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/nasa_tp_20205003644_interactive2.pdf

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:19 What it’s like being INCOSE President-Elect?

00:02:26 From NASA work to INCOSE principles (and why principles matter)

00:03:20 Origin of NASA's "Engineering Elegant Systems: Theory of Systems Engineering"

00:05:15 Why systems engineering is essential at NASA

00:07:03 Adoption & impact: principles → handbooks and guidance

00:08:15 The commercial space shift - beyond big gov & primes - Parallels with aviation

00:12:25 Shuttle reuse realities vs early vision

00:14:21 Tech transfer NASA → commercial engines & rockets

00:16:46 Advice to students/early-career degrees, paths, options

00:18:26 Multiple pathways machining, manufacturing, precision build

00:20:33 How to get involved with INCOSE

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INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering) President Ralf Hartmann explains the global evolution of systems engineering, the unique role of the International Workshop, and how INCOSE is connecting technical leaders around the world. ======================

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗

  • INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering): – https://www.incose.org/

  • Ralf Hartmann INCOSE President 2024-2025:

– https://www.linkedin.com/in/ralf-hartmann-1a03a214

– https://www.incose.org/about-incose/organization/leadership/ralf-hartmann-bio

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Gary Smith explains the importance of systems science and how he has used his presidency of the ISSS to enable collaboration within the wider systems community. ======================

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  • International Society for the Systems Sciences (ISSS): – https://www.isss.org/home/

  • Gary Smith ISSS President 2024: – https://www.isss.org/isss-president-gary-smith/ – https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-smith-5338aa4/

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  • 3 July 2025 Connect to Change Event (register for in person or online): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/connect-to-change-tickets-1349530474979?aff=oddtdtcreator

  • Built Environment Connective (including links to documents): https://be-connective.com/

  • Built Environment Connective: https://www.linkedin.com/company/built-environment-connective

  • Mark Enzer OBE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-enzer/

  • Alexandra Bolton OBE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-bolton-cw/

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️

00:00:00 - Opening meeting Mark Enzer and Alexandra Bolton

00:00:32 - What is the Built Environment?

00:02:30 - Why systems thinking is essential

00:04:30 - Long life of the Built Environment

00:05:07 - Connected systems, disconnected institutions

00:08:30 - Urgency and long-term planning

00:09:58 - Legacy and long life of infrastructure

00:13:25 - Infrastructure corridors and lost opportunities

00:18:30 - What is the Built Environment Connective?

00:20:13 - What got the Built Environment Connective started and getting involved?

00:26:22 - Details about the 3rd July 2025 event

00:28:40 - Avoiding systems thinking as a buzzword

00:33:25 - Defining outcomes vs. defaulting to interventions

00:38:20 - The Scope-Outcomes-Systems-Interventions-Feedback model

00:47:46 - Lessons from other sectors and countries

00:52:20 - Final thoughts

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Book: https://www.collegepublications.co.uk/systems/?00001 - Harold ”Bud” Lawson: https://harold-lawson.com/

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Opening - Systems thinking vs. Systems acting 00:02:03 - Who is Joshua Sutherland? 00:02:24 - Other videos and resources 00:05:05 - Flicking through the book 00:05:50 - Harold "Bud" Lawson 00:06:27 - 1 - What is the central idea or argument of this book, and why does it matter? 00:10:30 - 2 - Who is the book for? How can YOU apply this to your work? 00:13:11 - 3 - Who was Harold "Bud" Lawson, and what role did he play in shaping systems thinking and systems engineering? 00:14:37 - 4 - How is the book organised? How should I read it? 00:17:56 - 5 - What are the key ideas Lawson presents in his "Introduction to Systems"? 00:28:38 - 6 - What is Lawson's "Systems Survival Kit"? 00:34:48 - 7 - What is Thinking in Systems vs. Acting in Systems? 00:42:04 - 8 - What are some key topics from Systems Thinking? 00:42:55 - 9 - What are some key topics from Acting in Systems? 00:43:57 - 10 - What are the case studies presented in the book? 00:46:30 - 11 - What is the importance of change management to systems? 00:48:11 - 12 - What is Life Cycle Management? 00:49:21 - 13 - Why talk about Data vs. Information vs. Knowledge in a systems book? What is the difference? What about Ontologies and Taxonomies? 00:53:34 - 14 - Organizations and Enterprises as Systems 00:54:52 - 15 - Concluding Thoughts 00:56:19 - Unit X Giveaway 00:57:36 - Other books

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📖 BOOK CITATION 📖 Lawson, Harold W. A journey through the systems landscape. College Publications, 2010.

📖 BOOK DESCRIPTION 📖 Systems are everywhere and affect us daily in our private and professional lives. We all use the word “system” to describe something that is essential but often abstract, complex and even mysterious. However, learning to utilize system concepts as first class objects as well as methodologies for systems thinking and systems engineering provides a basis for removing the mystery and moving towards mastery even for complex systems. This journey through the Systems Landscape has been developed to promote learning to “think” and “act” in terms of systems. A unique aspect is the introduction of concrete system semantics provided as a “system survival kit” and based upon a limited number of concepts and principles as well as a mental model called the system-coupling diagram. This discipline independent presentation assists individuals and is essential for building a learning organization that can utilize a systems approach to achieving its enterprise goals. The eight chapters are presented as stops along a journey that successively build system knowledge. Each chapter terminates with a Knowledge Verification section that provides questions and exercises for individuals and groups. Case studies reflecting the utilization of the system related concepts, principles and methodologies are provided as chapter interludes.

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🔗 EPISODE LINKS 🔗 - Book: https://www.simonandschuster.co.uk/books/Unit-X/Raj-M-Shah/9781668031384 - Raj M. Shah: https://shieldcap.com/team/raj-shah - Christopher Kirchhoff: https://www.christopherkirchhoff.com/about-me

⏱️ TIMESTAMPS ⏱️ 00:00:00 - Opening 00:13:48 - 1 - What is the central idea or argument of this book, and why does it matter? 00:20:08 - 2 - How is the book organised? How should I read it? 00:33:21 - 3 - What is DIUx, and why was it created? What makes it unique? 00:36:54 - 4 - What are some of the key challenges the U.S. military faces in adopting new technology? 00:41:30 - 5 - How did DIUx overcome resistance from Congress and within the Pentagon? 00:45:58 - 6 - What are some real-world examples of innovations enabled by DIUx? 00:51:04 - 7 - Are there other entities like DIUx in the world? In military or otherwise? 00:55:39 - 8 - What role did key figures, like Ash Carter and Eric Schmidt, play in this story? 01:00:39 - 9 - How do the authors portray the global stakes, particularly regarding China’s advancements? 01:03:12 - 10 - What does the future of warfare look like, according to this book? 01:03:34 - 11 - Ethical Considerations of AI in Warfare 01:04:10 - 12 - What lessons can businesses and governments learn from the DIUx model? 01:07:03 - 13 - Book's Reception and Impact 01:08:46 - 14 - Concluding Thoughts

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📖 BOOK CITATION 📖 Unit X: How the Pentagon and Silicon Valley Are Transforming the Future of War Raj M. Shah Christopher Kirchhoff Scribner, 2024.

📖 BOOK DESCRIPTION 📖 A riveting inside look at an elite unit within the Pentagon—the Defense Innovation Unit, also known as Unit X—whose mission is to bring Silicon Valley’s cutting-edge technology to America’s military: from the two men who launched the unit. A vast and largely unseen transformation of how war is fought as profound as the invention of gunpowder or advent of the nuclear age is occurring. Flying cars that can land like helicopters, artificial intelligence-powered drones that can fly into buildings and map their interiors, microsatellites that can see through clouds and monitor rogue missile sites—all these and more are becoming part of America’s DIU-fast-tracked arsenal.

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Pari Singh is the CEO of Flow Engineering

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  • Flow Engineering: https://flowengineering.com/

  • Pari’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/parisingh/

OUTLINE TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 - Introduction

00:01:00 - Flow Engineering

00:03:06 - Systems Engineering and Design Teams

00:06:02 - The Evolution of Systems Engineering Tools

00:11:11 - Building Capability Step by Step

00:13:20 - Analogue, Digital, and Systems Phases of Engineering

00:16:14 - Flow Engineering's Genesis and Mission

00:25:54 - Client Engagement and Product Lifecycle

00:29:44 - Systems Engineering and Modern Industries

00:36:11 - Navigating the Various Engineering Tools

00:42:52 - Safety Concerns in Fast-Paced Engineering

00:45:02 - Far future

00:49:22 - Vertical Integration and Manufacturing Decisions

00:53:29 - Avoid being spread too thin

01:01:08 - Role of AI

01:04:50 - Closing

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Ivan Mactaggart was INCOSE UK President 2016 – 2018.

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EPISODE LINKS: - INCOSE UK (to be renamed IfSE): https://INCOSEuk.org/ - Ivan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanmactaggart/

OUTLINE TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 - Introduction 01:59 - Experience and perspectives as INCOSE UK president. 04:36 - Priorities during his presidency 09:18 - INCOSE UK’s journey to be a Professional Engineering Institution and rename to the Institute for Systems Engineering (IfSE) 18:17 - Relationships and friendships formed in INCOSE 22:31 - Member to becoming the president of INCOSE UK 38:38 - Role of INCOSE UK in influencing engineering policy 50:10 - Ivan's current work in rail 53:12 - Closing thoughts

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Discussion with Prof. Olivier de Weck about Technology Roadmapping. Including his 2022 book "Technology Roadmapping and Development: A Quantitative Approach to the Management of Technology"

Olivier is Apollo Program Professor of Astronautics and Engineering Systems at MIT & the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Spacecraft and Rockets. Previously Olivier was Editor-in-Chief for INCOSE’s Systems Engineering journal and Senior Vice President for Technology Planning and Roadmapping at Airbus.

Links from discussion: * 1. MIT Professional Education courses (including Technology Roadmapping): https://professional.mit.edu/programs/faculty-profiles/olivier-de-weck * 2. Olivier's 2022 Book: "Technology Roadmapping and Development": https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-88346-1 * 3. MIT's Roadmaps Home Page: https://roadmaps.mit.edu/index.php/Main_Page

Time stamps: * 00:00:00 Introduction * 00:01:00 What is technology Rd mapping and why should their organisation be doing it? * 00:02:10 1962 JFK speech “We choose to go to the Moon in this decade…” example of a roadmap? * 00:05:55 Figures of Merit (FoM), Utopian points, unachievable roadmaps & solar powered aircraft * 00:10:22 Multidisciplinary nature of roadmaps & CFOs Chief Financial Officer is perhaps the most powerful person in the company * 00:13:54 Value of traceability. Strategic Drivers to Roadmaps to Figures of Merit to R&D Projects Portfolio * 00:16:47 Size of organisations to use roadmaps. Airbus is very complicated company… * 00:19:03 Interfacing to suppliers of subsystems (e.g. aero engines) * 00:23:36 Large amounts of information & keeping roadmaps updated * 00:30:53 Disruptive innovation and Figure of Merit Changes * 00:33:40 Handling disruptions from outside an industry (e.g. COVID-19, September 11th, Financial crisis of 2008) * 00:36:51 MIT Online Course on Technology Roadmapping * 00:38:14 Closing

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Discussion with Jordan about the current state of Systems Engineering and where it can go in the future. Before founding QRA Corp, Jordan was a professor of quantum physics at Dalhousie University.

“QRA Corp’s mission is to accelerate the design process across industries who are tackling the most complex systems by empowering them to build tomorrow’s safe, secure, and incredibly powerful products. QRA’s technology, patented toolsets, and capabilities have been used to avoid stressful reworks, enable confident engineering, and find previously undetected catastrophic flaws.”

https://qracorp.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordankyriakidis/ https://jordan-kyriakidis.medium.com/

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Discussion with Mats Larsson regarding United Nations (UN) Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).

https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/

Mats Larsson is author of: The Blind Guardians of Ignorance: Covid-19, Sustainability, and Our Vulnerable. A handbook for change leaders, young and old.

Amazon USA: https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Guardians-Ignorance-Sustainability-Vulnerable/dp/1788360486/

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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro – Music

00:12 Episode

29:37 Get in contact

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Discussion with Mats Larsson regarding Boris Johnson’s “Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution for 250,000 jobs” announced on 2020-11-18:

  • https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-outlines-his-ten-point-plan-for-a-green-industrial-revolution-for-250000-jobs
  • https://www.edie.net/news/11/Boris-Johnson-unveils--12bn-spending-commitment-for-10-point-net-zero-transition-plan/

Mats Larsson is author of: The Blind Guardians of Ignorance: Covid-19, Sustainability, and Our Vulnerable. A handbook for change leaders, young and old.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro – Music
00:12 Intro – To episode Boris Johnson’s “Ten Point Plan for a Green Industrial Revolution for 250,000 jobs”
01:38 Need for a systems approach
42:20 Reviewing each of the Ten Points
52:25 Closing

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Interview with Mats Larsson author of:
The Blind Guardians of Ignorance: Covid-19, Sustainability, and Our Vulnerable. A handbook for change leaders, young and old.

Amazon UK: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Blind-Guardians-Ignorance-Sustainability-Vulnerable/dp/1788360486

MATS’S WEB LINKS: * http://getinstitute.com/mats-r-larsson/ * https://www.linkedin.com/in/mats-larsson-4098392/

Podcast Page: https://www.joshuasutherland.com/podcast-006/

Timestamps: * 00:00 Intro – Music * 00:10 Intro – Mats Larsson * 00:53 Explain the book title * 01:37 What are the challenges for the future? * 03:41 Sustainability is not about the environment? Peak oil? * 06:12 Book structure. 1. Age of Ignorance. 2. Driving the Change. 3. Starting the Transformation. * 08:34 The Age of Ignorance. Covid-19 exposes production challenges? Economic growth challenges? How to maintain growth? * 16:20 What is the end state? Where do we want society to go? * 18:46 Who is working on the economic research for stable state economies? * 20:04 Why not follow Elon Musk to Mars? * 22:59 Taking for granted luxuries of the modern world? Production systems are fragile? * 25:46 How does Covid-19 change your thinking on these topics? * 30:08 Efficiency removes buffers, but we need buffers for resilience? * 32:31 Economic measures of resilience? * 36:46 Growth model is in the human spirit? In our DNA? * 40:16 “A handbook” for change leaders. What is a handbook and who is a change leader? * 45:10 Change management. How slow change can be in large companies. Can we make such big changes in a quick time? Like WW2? Examples of these large endeavours. * 54:13 Does IT technology not make things easier now to meet the challenges? * 57:48 People are now experts. No one is looking at the big picture and addressing the big picture problems? * 1:01:11 People are more interested in sustainability now, but are Greta’s environmental protests useful? What should people do? * 1:05:45 Large companies often have people with the skills needed. Business managers. * 1:06:38 How did Mats get into this area? * 1:10:06 Change in public awareness of the ideas over the last 30 years * 1:14:07 How are these projects financed? * 1:17:05 Electric vehicles. What is your advice for auto executives and governments? * 1:24:24 Governments need to finance breakthrough technologies? * 1:27:40 Do we need competition to tackle the challenges of the future? USA vs. China vs. EU ? * 1:37:30 Tesla created their own infrastructure for electric vehicle charging. Good idea?1:41:36 We need people to run experiments of business models for sustainability? * 1:48:35 What are the key points you would like a reader to take away from reading your book? * 1:53:36 Rate to convert conventional vehicles to electric vehicles * 2:00:25 How to get the book. When it is out? What is the cover like? * 2:02:26 Final thoughts * 2:04:03 Contact details

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In this episode we are going to be exploring the CONSEQUENCES of COVID-19 on SYSTEMS ENGINEERING with SE experts from around the world.

Timestamps:
00:00 Intro - Mini
00:20 Intro - Full
02:11 Dov Dori - Technion & MIT
06:29 Bruce Cameron - MIT & Technology Strategy Partners
09:30 Mo Mansouri - Stevens Institute of Technology
11:38 Jon Holt - Scarecrow Consultants & Cranfield University
15:25 Alan Harding - BAE Systems & INCOSE Past President
17:56 Mike Johnson - SE-Training GmbH
21:59 Mohammad Chami - Chami Consulting
24:47 Joshua Sutherland
31:34 Outro

Guest details:

Prof. Dov Dori https://web.iem.technion.ac.il/en/people/userprofile/dori.html
Professor at Technion - Israel Institute of Technology & Visiting Professor at MIT
Inventor of Object Process Methodology (OPM): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Process_Methodology
OPM Book: http://bit.ly/MBSE-with-OPM OPM Software: https://www.opcloud.tech/ OPM Online Training: https://www.edx.org/professional-certificate/israelx-model-based-systems-engineering

Bruce Cameron is the Director of the System Architecture Group at MIT, and a co-founder of Technology Strategy Partners.
http://systemarchitect.mit.edu/
http://t-s-partners.com/

Prof. Mo Mansouri, PhD
Mo is a faculty member at School of Systems and Enterprises and the Program Director for Systems Engineering Programs at Stevens Institute of Technology. He is also a visiting professor at University of South-Eastern Norway. He teaches Research Methodology at doctorate, Systems Thinking and Governing Development at master and Operations Management at bachelor levels. His research on Systems Governance, Policy Designs and Resilience in Societal Systems.
https://web.stevens.edu/facultyprofile/?id=1301

Prof. Jon Holt PhD, BEng, CEng FIET, FBCS CITP, MINCOSE
Jon is current director of Scarecrow Consultants., the Technical Director of INCOSE UK and a Professor of Systems Engineering at Cranfield University. He is the author of 15 books on model-based Systems Engineering, and in 2015 was identified as one of the 25th most-influential Systems Engineers by INCOSE.
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-holt-a4a5bb1/
https://www.scarecrowconsultants.co.uk/

Alan Harding CEng FIET MINCOSE
Alan Harding is the lead for information systems engineering within the BAE Systems - Air business in the UK. He has over 30 years experience in systems engineering. Alan is a past president of INCOSE (International Council on Systems Engineering).
Twitter: https://twitter.com/alan_shropshire

Mike Johnson CSEP
Mike is a Systems Engineering expert based in Switzerland, with a strong passion for complex problem solving and holistic thinking.
SE-Training GmbH
https://www.se-training.net/en/

Mohammad Chami
Founder of Chami Consulting | MBSE Services, and a full-time, tool-independent, Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE) consultant.
Website: https://chamiconsulting.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohachami
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MohammadChami

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Interview with Ricardo Viana Vargas – Brightline Project Management Institute (PMI) – Project Management & Strategy Implementation

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Heinz Stoewer – Space Systems Engineer & INCOSE Past President on the Joshua Sutherland Podcast.

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Interview with Hillary Sillitto author of “Architecting Systems: Concepts, Principles and Practice”
Check out Hillary’s website here to learn more about the book: http://sillittoenterprises.com/

Links to things mentioned in the interview:

  • Book: Architecting Systems – concepts, principles and practice. By Hillary Sillitto, 2014
  • Journal Paper: Dori, Dov, and Hillary Sillitto. “What is a system? An ontological framework.” Systems Engineering 20.3 (2017): 207-219.
  • Conference Paper: Sillitto, Hillary, Dov Dori, Regina M. Griego, Scott Jackson, Daniel Krob, Patrick Godfrey, Eileen Arnold, James Martin, and Dorothy McKinney. “Defining “system”: a comprehensive approach.” In INCOSE International Symposium, vol. 27, no.
  • Journal: https://physicsworld.com/
  • Challenger Shuttle Disaster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster
  • INCOSE Complexity Primer White Paper: https://www.incose.org/docs/default-source/ProductsPublications/a-complexity-primer-for-systems-engineers.pdf?sfvrsn=0&sfvrsn=0
  • INCOSE Complexity Primer Presentation: https://www.incose.org/docs/default-source/default-document-library/complexity-primer-overview.pdf?sfvrsn=0
  • Book: Systems Architecting: Creating & Building Complex Systems. By Eberhardt Rechtin, 1990.
  • Book: Anticipatory Systems: Philosophical, Mathematical and Methodological Foundations. By Robert Rosen, 2012
  • Book: The Incremental Commitment Spiral Model: Principles and Practices for Successful Systems and Software. By Barry Boehm, Jo Ann Lane, Supannika Koolmanojwong, Richard Turner, 2014.
  • Book: Anticipatory Systems: Philosophical, Mathematical and Methodological Foundations. By Robert Rosen, 2012
  • INCOSE papers and presentations library: https://www.incose.org/ProductsPublications/Papers-Presentations-library
Incremental Commitment Spiral Model, The: Principles and Practices for Successful Systems and Software: Principles and Practices for Successful Systems and Software
Systems Architecting: Creating & Building Complex Systems
Anticipatory Systems: Philosophical, Mathematical, and Methodological Foundations (International Federation for Systems Research International Series on Systems Science and Engineering, Vol. 1)

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  • Interview with Bryan R. Moser – The nature of teamwork via the study and design of socio-technical systems: http://www.mit.edu/~bry/
  • Academic Director and Sr. Lecturer, System Design and Management (SDM) @ MIT: https://sdm.mit.edu/
  • Associate Director, Strategic Engineering Research Group @ MIT: http://strategic.mit.edu/
  • Project Associate Professor, Graduate School of Frontier Sciences @ the University of Tokyo: https://www.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/index.html.en
  • Director, Global Teamwork Lab @ the University of Tokyo: https://gtl.edu.k.u-tokyo.ac.jp/home
  • Founder of the company Global Project Design (GPD): http://www.teamport.com/
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