For almost two years this podcast was a life-giving playground for me to explore the ways God connects with us. Then COVD-19 hit in March 2020. At first I thought I would take a break for a few months and then start recording again. I thought I’d figure out a way to coordinate my kids’ virtual learning, meet with spiritual direction clients, and also record and edit conversations. I could see how relevant the question of how God meets us in our daily lives was in this unprecedented season. I hungered to hear how people were experiencing this time spiritually.
But I could never make it work. I could never figure out how to care for my kids and my clients and myself and also record. What was a months-long hiatus had dragged into nearly a year. And now I can’t imagine recording again. It’s a lot of work. It’s life-giving work, but time-consuming. It’s time for me to release this podcast to make space for other creative work — hopefully writing my next book.
I will keep previous episodes up on this page. Although they were recorded pre-pandemic, there is still much wisdom and inspiration in the conversations. If you’re looking for some spiritual manna, I encourage you to check out the archives.
With love & gratitude,
Lauren
Whether it's quarantine, shelter in place, or social distancing, how could this challenging and extraordinary time become a spiritual practice? I share some ideas of ways I am opening curiosity and vulnerability in what is an uncertain and scary time. I hope you'll join me, and then share the ways that are helping you keep your heart open in this season.
We think of game-playing as frivolous, indulgent, child-like. Game store owner and philosopher Kylie Prymus shares how games have changed his life, and will leave you wanting to find a game to play with your loved ones, to experience the rich field of relationship-building and spiritual insight that awaits you on the board.
SHOW NOTES
Games Unlimited
Reiner Knizia
Theory of Fun for Game Design by Raph Koster
The Grasshopper: Games, Life, and Utopia by Bernard Suits
TED Talk by Jane McGonigal
Center for Play and Exploration
We also mentioned the games Hanabi, Medium, and Mysterium
"Honoring mess" is a surprising phrase, one that jars with our mental image of a spiritual life that is structured, orderly, quiet. Mystic and change agent Preeta Banerjee shares how her experience with the divine feminine has invited her into a flexible, collaborative, creative way of being. You will find tools and inspiration to embrace every bit of life's messy reality in this interspiritual, inspiring conversation.
SHOW LINKS
Preeta’s Website
Life As A Mix Master by Preeta Banerjee
Rage Becomes Her by Soraya Chemaly
“The Guest House” by Rumi
The Mystic Soul Project
Idea 2 Form Collaborative Design Studio
Brené Brown
The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield
Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert
Photography can be a place of intimacy and relationship with the holy, if we slow down and open up to the image before us. Stephanie Bell shares her own transforming experiences with photography as a spiritual practice, and offers ways to play with this practice in our daily life.
SHOW NOTES
Stephanie’s Website
Allen Ginsberg
Eyes of the Heart: Photography As a Christian Contemplative Practice by Christine Valters Paintner
The Open Door
Garfield Community Farm
Earth Monastery Project
Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
This Life That Is Ours by Lauren Burdette
In this conversation, Chichi Agorom makes the Enneagram accessible, shares her own journey from skeptic to teacher, and beautifully captures the graces she has experienced from engaging with this ancient tool. Whether you’ve never head of the Enneagram or have been studying it for years, you’ll find food for your soul.
Show Notes
Chichi’s Website
The Narrative Tradition of the Enneagram
Richard Rohr’s reflection on language and metaphor
Online Enneagram test
The Enneagram: Understanding Yourself & Others In Your Life by Helen Palmer
Book a Type Discovery Session with Chichi
How can a hobby become a way to connect with God? Pastor BJ Woodworth shares his journey with home-brewing, revealing how fermentation is a metaphor for the spiritual life, and inspiring us to listen for ways to enjoy time with God in new ways.
Show Notes
Into the Silent Land: The Practice of Contemplation by Martin Laird
Lost in Wonder: Rediscovering the Spiritual Art of Attentiveness by Esther De Waal
On Celtic prayers over daily life
The Great Good Place by Ray Oldenburg
Letters to a Young Poet by Rainer Maria Rilke
Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander by Thomas Merton
Isaiah 30:15
A Vow of Conversation by Thomas Merton
Cooked by Michael Pollan
Dr. Diane Millis joins me for a conversation about the power of telling more life-giving stories. As Diane says, the nature of our lives is narrative. We are inherent story-tellers, but all of us have stories that don’t serve us well. Diane shares her own experience of learning to tell more expansive stories, how that has shaped her knowledge of the holy, and offers tools to explore and expand the narratives within which we live.
SHOW NOTES
Diane’s website
Re-Creating a Life: Learning How to Tell Our Most Life-Giving Stories
Psalms for Praying: An Invitation to Wholeness by Nan C. Merrill
Dan McAdams
Kintsugi pottery
Frederick Buechner
Richard Rohr
Yoga with Adriene
StoryCorps
I am joined by a very special guest - my mother! Lou Ann Horstman shares her story of embracing her love of singing. You will be inspired by her journey with singing, how she traveled from seeing it as "decoration on the liturgy" to a rich and valid way of experiencing God's presence. Her story will make you want to sing more, and will ignite your curiosity about what practices might already exist in your life that are simply waiting to be taken seriously.
SHOW NOTES
The Institute for Applied Meditation on the Heart
Threshold Choir
On the neuroscience of singing
Women Who Run With the Wolves by Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes
Learning to Fall by Philip Simmons
The Library Book by Susan Orlean
Although House of St. Michael the Archangel is no longer an organization, I have inherited our publications and CDs. You can contact Lauren if you are interested in purchasing CDs. They are $10, and all proceeds will go to Caroline Becker, the widow of Tim Becker, the founder of the House.
In our last regular episode of Season 1, Barbara Mahany joins us to discuss motherhood as spiritual practice. Barbara is the author of several books, including Motherprayer, and she explores in her writing how parenting is an invitation into a holy curriculum. As she says, "no other spiritual practice could compel me in this way. Motherhood is so raw, real, and uncharted." We talk about what we have learned through our mothering, and how writing about our lives as mothers has helped us to open up to the holy potential of this role.
SHOW NOTES
Barbara’s blog, Pull Up A Chair
Motherprayer
Blessings of Motherprayer
The Chicago Interfaith Family School
How can we move from seeing our children as "in the way" of our spiritual practices, and instead see them as the way itself? Gavriel Strauss shares from his own experience as a father of two, and provides simple, practical ways to open up to the spiritual potential of fatherhood.
Gavriel is a spiritual counselor, and the founder of Evolving Judaism and Path of Tikkün, two organizations committed to the development of universal Jewish spiritual practice as a means of personal and collective transformation.
Whether you are a father yourself, or want to understand the fathers in your life better, this is an enlightening conversation.
SHOW NOTES
Gavriel’s website
Evolving Judaism
Path of Tikkun
Neufeld Institute
Castellino Prenatal and Birth Therapy Training
What if an entire season of life could be a spiritual practice? L. Roger Owens, author of Threshold of Discovery, shares how entering his 40th year with curiosity and intention opened him up to surprising connection with God. He will inspire you to wonder about how your current season of life might also become a spiritual practice.
SHOW NOTES
Roger’s website
Threshold of Discovery: A Field Guide to Spirituality in Midlife
“Suspended” by Denise Levertov
Hymn lyrics for “Oh Love That Will Not Let Me Go”
The Five Buddhist Remembrances
The Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius of Loyola
The Quotidian Mysteries by Kathleen Norris
Thomas Merton’s writings
Revelations of Divine Love by Julian of Norwich
Jim Gaffigan
Morning Prayer “New every morning is your love, great God of light.”
Katherine Josten, the founder and Executive Director of the Global Art Project for Peace, shares stories of the surprising way deep listening has informed her own artistic practice. She inspires us to listen deeply, and to tend to the creative responses that rise in us, whether we think of ourselves as "artistic" or not.
SHOW NOTES
Katherine’s website
The Global Art Project
"When you're in better relationship with the earth and with people," says John Creasy, "it's a natural connection point to the Creator." John is a pastor and executive director of a permaculture farm in Pittsburgh, PA. He shares with us ways that we can draw on the principles of permaculture to heal our relationship with the Earth, and to deepen our relationship with God.
SHOW NOTES
Garfield Community Farm
Music by This Side of Eve
The Food Forest Handbook by Darrell Frey and Michelle Czolba
The Signature of Jesus by Brennan Manning
John Phillip Newell
Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louv
Permaculture: Principles & Pathways Beyond Sustainability by David Holmgren
Backpacking with the Saints by Belden C. Lane
What if we could see our dream world as a place of playful connection with God? I am joined by spiritual director Dr. Kristen Hobby, who provides us with tools and inspiration to approach our dreams with curiosity and openness instead of fear or dismissal.
SHOW NOTES
Kristen’s Website
Dream App
Jeremy Taylor
Kristen’s Guide to Working with Dreams
"Most people think of beauty as innocuous," Rita Patel says, "but it's actually radical." Rita is an artist and creativity consultant who has dived deeply into beauty as a spiritual practice in both her life and her work.
We discuss how taking beauty seriously has changed her life, opening her heart and mind to new experiences and ways of thinking. Rita then invites you to consider how you can make beauty a central part of your day, providing us with concrete exercises to engage this concept.
Show Notes
More about Rita Patel
John O’Donohue’s conversation with Krista Tippett on OnBeing
Beauty: The Invisible Embrace by John O’Donohue
Zen Hospice Project
In this inaugural episode, Yael Allen joins us to interview me about who I am and how listening became a significant spiritual practice for me. You’ll be invited to imagine what it could be like for you to engage listening more deeply in your own life.