Maintainers Anonymous: Recent Episodes

Henry Zhu

How can we work together to achieve a common goal: whether in our code, cities, or infrastructure? Henry Zhu chats with fellow maintainers across all disciplines of life on their process, motivations, and struggles as they learn in public.

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What's life after removing yourself from social media? Philip Gee joins Henry (the last in the "trilogy") to chat about LAT, life after Twitter. We discuss being irrelevant, forcing yourself to think about different things, treating a newsletter like email, restraining your growth, moving to the digital suburbs, engaging with the past, directing your attention and production, being particular and local, making it normal again to not have to create. (recorded in July) Transcript: https://hopeinsource.com/digital-death.

First chat (MA 7): https://hopeinsource.com/growing-old
Second chat (MA 15): https://hopeinsource.com/unlisting
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

Headings:

  • Intro to the Trilogy
  • A Movie Review By a Random Person
  • Forcing Your Own Hand
  • Email Is a Newsletter without an Archive
  • Restrained Growth
  • Convenience Over Everything
  • Quitting and Twitter Brouhaha
  • From City to Suburbs
  • Stepping Back By Not Producing
  • Conflating Consumption and Production
  • Engaging with The Distant Past
  • Getting the Last Word
  • Showing Charity to Those Things
  • Spewing Out Stuff, Undirected
  • After Influence, Staying Niche?
  • Generality (Mega Church) and Particularity (House Church)
  • The Small Scale is the Only Scale
  • It's Not Weird To Not Make Anything

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Why would you choose to leave the public internet on your own terms? Philip Gee joins Henry (for the 2nd time) to chat about his recent choice to make a minimal public web presence after being on the web for many years. We discuss the logistics of removing social media (Twitter, Facebook, YouTube), moving to longer forms of media (podcasts, essays, books), making introductory content, recognizing different stages of your career, being out of touch, freeing your mind for the next thing, not being ashamed of previous work, taking time to reflect, and friction. (recorded in May) Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/unlisting.

Previous Episode: https://maintainersanonymous.com/growing-old
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

Headings:

  • "He took everything down!"
  • A Long Time Coming
  • Erasure: a minimal public web presence
  • Unlisting Yourself
  • When I was young, I was in a rock band
  • Naturally Transitioning Out
  • Tenure as a forcing function
  • High School Debut
  • Out of Touch
  • Ownership Over Our (Digital) Selves
  • Posting about Quitting
  • No One's Going to Cry
  • Making Introductory Content
  • More Beginners in a Growing Field
  • The Business of Patrons
  • Doing the Work vs. Funding It
  • Staying or Stepping Away
  • Seinfeld and Ending at the Top
  • Freeing Your Mind for the Next Thing
  • "It's all I've Known"
  • Graceful Degradation
  • A Time to Reflect
  • Acting on Our Beliefs
  • Quitting Should be Boring
  • Intentionality
  • We Are As Athletes
  • Adding Friction

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What does it mean to be code adjacent? Shawn Wang joins Henry to chat about not just open code but open thinking with his experience in community managing, the idea of tumbling, moderating /r/reactjs, starting the Svelete Society meetup, documenting and learning in public, being historians of our field, fresh notes vs. awesome lists, the meta language, and adoption curves. Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/open-knowledge.

Shawn: https://twitter.com/swyx
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

Headings:

  • Intro: Tumbling as an Alternative to Community Manager
  • Specific, Limited-term Maintainer Roles
  • Separation of Maintainer Concerns
  • Babel W18, like YC W18
  • Becoming a Moderator for /r/reactjs
  • Learning with "I Promise to Answer Every Question"
  • History and Memento Mori: A Time Before Git
  • Where's the Story of How Projects Get Started?
  • A Culture of "Document Yourself More"
  • Learning Gears: Explorer, Connector, Miner
  • Finding A Vision People Can Rally Around
  • Being Code Adjacent
  • Maybe We Need a JavaScript Community Manager
  • Cheat Sheets and Awesome Lists
  • Personalized Docs, Documentation Levels
  • Open Source Knowledge, Proof of Work
  • Twitter as a Permanent Hallway Track
  • Find the Intersection of Two Communities
  • Documenting Underlying Assumptions
  • "Fresh notes"
  • Starting a Meetup: Svelte Society
  • Keeping it Alive
  • Taking Part in Category Creation
  • The Meta Language
  • Parenting and Figuring Things Out
  • Not Everything Needs to be in Public
  • CSS 4: Does It Even Matter if No One Knows?
  • Adoption Curves: Focusing too much on the head
  • Removing the Learning Curve with Better Defaults
  • Philosophy of Technology
  • Spatial Software, The Mind

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Why attempt to faithfully recreate the past? Jordan Scales joins Henry to chat about 98.css, design systems, being pixel perfect, accessibility, the Microsoft Windows User Experience reference manual, using VMs, MSPaint and Figma, whimsy and having fun with coding, creating satire at no one's expense, and even how Babel's Guy Fieri meme could of been Jeff Goldblum in another universe. Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/nostalgia

Jordan: https://twitter.com/jdan
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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Is programming all digital/cerebral or do we still have embodied roots? How does this affect how we write, teach, and learn code? Maggie Appleton joins Henry to discuss everything metaphors (basically everything). We chat about mental models and abstraction, Polanyi, Cartesian dualism, auto ethnography, knowledge, cats!

Transcript at: https://maintainersanonymous.com/metaphor Maggie: https://twitter.com/Mappletons Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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Is the open source community a gift economy? What even is a gift? Maggie Appleton joins Henry to discuss open source as a gift economy (versus a market economy), why we participate in open source and exchange gifts, rituals and habits, patronage and crowdfunding, quantified self and disembodiment, our role in tech

Transcript at: https://maintainersanonymous.com/gift
Maggie: https://twitter.com/Mappletons
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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How should we think about saving something forever? Jonathan Farbowitz (Guggenheim) continues the on-going discussion of software preservation with Henry in talking about the goals of museums, the hard (and maybe impossible) task of keeping something intact, norms and steps of conservation, comparing physical and digital artwork, the importance of authors in conserving a piece, emulation vs. language porting (rewrite), a discussion of legacy/dependencies/testing, and deprecations/breakages in environments/standards.

Jonathan: https://twitter.com/jfarbowitz
Guggenheim: https://twitter.com/Guggenheim
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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In our pursuit to create products for the future do we neglect the past? Wendy Hagenmaier (Georgia Tech) discusses with Henry on the importance of maintaining our history, especially in software itself. They chat all about archival: what is it, what should concern an archivist, differences b/t physical/digital, artifacts/process, value/worth of things to preserve, struggles, places where archival can happen (personal, libraries, companies, museums), and our shared responsibility and knowledge.

Wendy: https://www.library.gatech.edu/wendy-hagenmaier
Software Preservation Network: https://www.softwarepreservationnetwork.org/fcop/
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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Why play or even make games? Anthony Giovannetti (MegaCrit) joins Henry to chat building video game Slay the Spire with the community. They discuss games an a interactive medium, immersion, player incentives/tradeoffs, emergent gameplay through roguelikes (procedural generation, permadeath), player mastery/difficulty, Steam early access, user feedback, importance of testing, data-informed balancing, and player accessibility driving features via streaming, translations, and UX.

Anthony (MegaCrit): https://twitter.com/megacrit
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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Do we learn in a vacuum, or does it involve our whole selves? Philip Gee (UC San Diego) joins Henry to chat about maintaining a web presence since its beginnings. We discuss some of the points made in Nadia's post on ideas carrying us forward, even beyond what we are known for, the greater intimacy of podcasts and vlogs, attaching ideas to people, science as subjective vs. purely objective and in community, knowledge as opening up possibilities, embracing whimsy and being random (haircut podcasts), embracing spontaneity and cities, understanding our bodies and mortality and it's relation to our digital lives and rest.

Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

Show Notes:

Tyranny of Ideas (Nadia)

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Why should we standardize? Jory Burson (Bocoup) joins Henry to talk open source and standards: what they are, why we need them, what should be standardized, lifecycles of standards, past/future accessibility of participating in the process, and more!

Jory: https://twitter.com/jorydotcom
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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How can we be free? Evan You (Vue.js) chats with Henry about the complexities of funding people vs. projects, non-monetary perks of oss, Patreon potentially just a payment processor, the honing in on the uniqueness of open source (being free, flexible, organic/emergent, self-motivated, distributed/remote), full time not being for everyone, the importance of side projects and off-pressure moments and just having fun. Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/freedom

Evan: https://twitter.com/youyuxi
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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How old is open source anyway? Mikeal Rogers (Protocol Labs) joins Henry in talking about making friends through podcasting, conference organizing as maintainer-ship, patronage and fundraising, old/new school open source, deprecating packages and ecosystem health, new ideas and becoming a maintainer by being the "first", and parenting! Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/getting-old/

Mikeal: https://twitter.com/mikeal
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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What do we treasure? Stephanie Hurlburt (Binomial) joins again to chat about inherent vs. perceived value, success breeding success, psychology around hiding information, code versus money, a holistic/explicit view of business, everything as marketing, confidence, money as idolatry, the nature of giving, our biases around people/status, people want to see you succeed, communicating how people can help you. (recorded in February) Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/value

Stephanie: https://twitter.com/sehurlburt
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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How is business development relevant to open source? Stephanie Hurlburt (Binomial) joins Henryto chat about understanding learnings from success, setting health boundaries, what "networking" really means, conversations/pitching, and more! (recorded in February) Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/boundaries

Stephanie: https://twitter.com/sehurlburt
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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What's beyond simply beating a video game? Eric "Omnigamer" Koziel joins Henry to chat about speedruning as an optimization problem (code golf), game knowledge as discovery, access as a result of technology, issues of game preservation/archival, coordination issues, obscure/popular games, versioning/patches, and more! (recorded in January. Since then, Eric has a new book out, Speedrun Science) Transcript: https://maintainersanonymous.com/speedrunning

Eric: https://twitter.com/TheOmnigamer
Henry: https://twitter.com/left_pad

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