Glass City Humanist: Recent Episodes
Douglas Berger
Talking about Humanist values and social justice. Topics range from the Humanist consensus to how to navigate a world made up of science denying Christian Nationalists bent on smashing the wall between church and state. Human problems require human solutions.
We look at the intriguing and often heated situation surrounding St. Anthony's Catholic Church. Once a church built for Polish immigrants, this historic building has been at the center of debate since it closed in 2005. SHoWLE didn't support the forced sale to the county. Now, with the Lucas County Land Bank planning to turn the 131-year-old building into a community center, there is a question whether preserving history meets the real needs of the Junction community.
Next, we have Ohio's statehouse returning to work, where House Bill 57, meant to help schools provide overdose reversal drugs, has been changed by controversial amendments promoting released time religious education. The original bipartisan bill was hijacked by Christian Nationalists continuing their campaign to infect public schools.
We expand our focus to a national issue: a recent national security executive order from President Trump targeting organizations considered "disruptive," including those labeled "anti-Christian." We discuss the significant effects of this memorandum on secular and humanist groups, linking it to historical abuses of power and questioning the legality and ethics of such monitoring.
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Our host, Douglas, is a seasoned leader in the humanist movement, starting his third decade of experience navigating internal debates, schisms, and the challenges of maintaining unity.
Discover the intentional strategies used to foster constructive discussions, drawing parallels with the unified messaging of the right-wing and Christian nationalists. Learn about the diverse makeup of humanist groups, including the inclusion of Unitarians, Buddhists, pagans, and liberal Christians, and the personal journey of a militant atheist who has learned to respect different beliefs.
We highlight the importance of treating everyone with dignity, focusing on ideas rather than personal attacks, and the crucial humanist principle of acknowledging that one could be wrong, especially in today's polarized climate. Tune in to hear about a recent meeting that tested these principles, focusing on divestments, boycotts, and living humanist values without hypocrisy.
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We're joined by Jake Via, the new Organizing Director for the American Humanist Association. Our conversation explores Jake's journey from his conservative Christian upbringing to his eventual embrace of humanism. We look at how his early experiences shaped his values and laid the foundation for his current work, highlighting themes of community engagement and ethical living.
Jake shares his thoughts on the role of an organizer at the AHA, explaining how grassroots mobilization and collaborative training efforts play a crucial part in advancing humanist values across the country. He points out the need for diverse programming that connects with a broader audience, recognizing that not everyone is drawn to traditional group formats. Jake expresses excitement for the initiatives he’s leading, including the recently launched Humanist Creator Fund aimed at sponsoring secular content creators. The project shows a smart way to expand humanism's reach and appeal, especially among younger generations who may not identify with traditional labels or organizations.
Jake shares ideas about various outreach strategies, including programs for LGBTQ young humanists and the need for flexibility in how people can participate. He stresses that creating a welcoming environment is key for newcomers who might otherwise feel disconnected from formal humanist movements. Jake’s insights provide a clear path for building collaborative, supportive spaces that connect with individuals from many different backgrounds and experiences.
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Recognizing the finite nature of human existence, humanists are inspired to maximize their time and consider the lasting legacies they will leave behind. This reflection was particularly meaningful due to the recent passing of our friend, Ford B Cauffiel Sr., an accomplished entrepreneur and community leader. Ford profoundly impacted those around him through his diverse contributions, including a notable classic car collection and philanthropic efforts supporting various charities and environmental causes.
The discussion also touches upon the societal tendency to honor historical figures who may have had problematic aspects. The removal of the Christopher Columbus statue in Columbus, Ohio, was presented as a contemporary example of a cultural reevaluation where confronting uncomfortable historical truths is necessary. We advocated for a more thoughtful approach to commemoration, emphasizing the celebration of individuals who have genuinely worked towards the betterment of humanity, moving beyond glorified historical interpretations to embrace those whose actions align with humanistic values.
The launch of the Secular Vote Project was also discussed, an initiative designed to empower the growing demographic of secular individuals in America. Led by figures such as Sarah Levin and Dr. Juhem Navarro-Rivera, this project aims to provide a focused voice for the often-overlooked non-religious population in political discourse, fostering a deeper understanding of secularism through research and discourse led by those who embody this identity.
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We have a critical examination of the hypocrisy within the Christian nationalist movement, particularly concerning the lack of response to revelations from the Epstein files. We highlight the dissonance between the public pronouncements of moral leadership and arguing that partisan interests often supersede ethical accountability. Specific examples of political figures leveraging family values rhetoric while ignoring or downplaying serious moral crises are analyzed, exposing the devastating consequences of such double standards.
We then explore the complex web of connections between Jeffrey Epstein and politically influential figures, particularly within the Republican Party. The episode analyzes the implications of past associations and the ongoing debate surrounding the release of Epstein's investigative files, underscoring the need for accountability and transparency. The discussion acknowledges the moral complexities inherent in this situation, advocating for a reckoning that prioritizes the rights and well-being of victims over the protection of powerful individuals. The narrative highlights the power dynamics that shield perpetrators and the urgent need to challenge these systems.
If you wear your religion on your sleeve then We demand moral integrity from political leaders, particularly those who claim to champion family values and child protection.
We also promote a Toledo screening of "The Last Class," a documentary featuring Robert Reich, focusing on education and economic justice. Proceeds from ticket sales will benefit our local humanist community.
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We address a recent editorial from the Toledo Blade that mischaracterizes the failed merger between Kroger and Albertsons. Contrary to the editorial’s claims, it was not the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) but a federal judge who blocked the merger due to concerns about market competition. We discuss the broader implications of allowing massive grocery chains to consolidate, particularly the potential harms to consumer choice, pricing, and local economies.
Then we look at a developing legal case involving LifeWise Academy, a religious group seeking to conduct Christian education for public school kids during the school day. Their lawsuit against the Ohio Civil Rights Commission centers on the ministerial exemption, a legal doctrine that exempts religious institutions from certain employment laws. We explore how this exemption, while designed to protect religious freedom, it should only apply to groups that actually preach a religion or are incorporated as religious. Lifewise is not that at all.
Our main topic concerns the Johnson Amendment, a pivotal law that prevents tax-exempt organizations—including churches—from engaging in political endorsements. A recent court filing proves what church and state advocates have been saying for decades about the non-enforcement of the Johnson Amendment. We discuss the history and intent of the Johnson Amendment, its role in preserving the neutrality of religious institutions in politics, and the risks of increased religious influence on electoral processes if this safeguard is finally officially thrown away.
Rounding out the episode, we invite listeners to reflect on broader humanist themes through the lens of two influential thinkers. We discuss Robert Reich’s advocacy for economic justice, framed by his new documentary The Last Class, which will be screening soon in Toledo. His insights on inequality and education resonate with humanist values of fairness and dignity. We also share actor and Humanist Stephen Fry’s contemplations on mortality and the search for meaning—an uplifting reminder of the importance of living authentically and compassionately, even in uncertain times.
01:00 The Last Class Toledo Showing invite and promo
07:54 Update on Lifewise lawsuit
11:13 Correcting Toledo Blade Editorial about failed merger
19:36 A Bit of Stephen Fry
25:17 The Johnson Amendment Is Officially Dead
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A recent ruling from Franklin County has called into question the constitutionality of the Ohio EdChoice voucher program, which has long been a point of debate for its impact on public school funding. The detailed 47-page decision found that the program violates the Ohio Constitution by diverting public funds away from public schools and into private institutions, effectively creating a dual education system. This thoughtful ruling not only invites a renewed conversation about the state’s funding priorities but also sets the stage for a meaningful legal review, as proponents of the voucher system prepare to appeal. It's a critical opportunity to reflect on how we invest in education and ensure equitable access for all students.
We turn our attention to a story involving LifeWise Academy, an organization promoting Bible-based educational programs in the middle of the public school day. Recently, LifeWise faced allegations of labor law violations and responded by attempting to invoke a ministerial exemption—a legal concept usually reserved for recognized religious institutions. This case raises important questions about the balance between religious freedom and employee rights, and the responsibilities organizations must uphold when operating in public education spaces. By examining these legal nuances, we can better understand the boundaries of religious exemptions and how they intersect with employment protections. It’s a chance to think critically about maintaining fairness and accountability in all institutions, regardless of their religious affiliation.
Finally, we look at the broader discussions about the role of government in supporting those in need, particularly in light of views expressed by Pastor Ralph Drollinger, who leads Bible studies for members of Congress. Drollinger advocates a model where aid to the poor is first the responsibility of individuals and families, rather than the state. While this perspective emphasizes personal and community involvement, it raises important concerns about whether such a framework is sufficient to address systemic poverty. We explore the history and importance of public social safety nets and argue for their continued necessity alongside private and charitable efforts. By drawing on historical and ethical perspectives, we make the case for policies that reflect compassion, equity, and collective responsibility—ensuring that no one is left behind.
01:00 News Update
11:07 Update of the News Update
17:21 Systemic Poverty Needs Systemic Solutions: A Response to Religious ConservativesFull Show Notes & Links Used
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We look into the implications of the inaugural meeting of President Trump's Religious Liberty Commission. The makeup of this commission suggests that true religious liberty may not be its primary focus, but rather an agenda of promoting Christian nationalism. The commission is chaired by Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, with key figures such as Dr. Ben Carson and Paula White lending their voices to a narrative that prioritizes the rights and beliefs of Christians while sidelining the concerns of non-Christian and non-religious individuals.
The commission features predominantly Christian members, alongside just one rabbi, with no representatives from other faiths or from the growing population of secular Americans. Then there is the absurdity of including controversial figures like television personality Dr. Phil, while critically assessing the narratives promoted by other commission members. Their rhetoric suggests a belief that religious ideologies must permeate all aspects of public life, framing the absence of Christianity in education as a significant societal threat. This perspective raises alarm bells about the direction in which they seek to steer the American landscape.
Then we discuss the proposed Ohio state budget that has been hailed by a Christian nationalist group as pro-life and pro-family, despite its evident cuts to vital community services, including education and social support programs. Drawing on an insightful piece from columnist Marilou Johanek, we unpack how this budget undermines the very families it claims to protect, while simultaneously prioritizing religious agendas over critical humanitarian needs. This connects these issues to broader national narratives, such as the recent Supreme Court ruling on Tennessee's gender-affirming care ban, highlighting the discriminatory nature of these laws and the religious motivations behind them.
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We look into the pressing issues of compassion and empathy in political discourse, particularly among conservative politicians, and the importance of humanism in addressing these challenges. We discuss the alarming trend of lawmakers advocating for cuts to essential social safety nets, such as Medicare and Medicaid, which provide critical support to those struggling to meet basic living standards. We lay bare the injustices inherent in proposals that prioritize tax cuts for the wealthy over the welfare of those in need.
Our exploration of a particular incident with US Senator Joni Ernst showcases the stark contrast between privilege and empathy, underscoring the disconnect many politicians have with the realities of their constituents' struggles.
We comment on the recent attempts to erase LGBTQ+ history and contributions from public life, notably the controversial decision to remove Milk's name from a Navy ship. We stress the importance of recognizing and honoring figures like Milk, who has become emblematic of the fight for civil rights, while also reflecting on the persistence of anti-LGBTQ+ sentiments in political circles. Harvey Milk will be known in history far longer than the current Secretary of Defense and President Trump.
Finally we look at recent study commissioned by the state of Utah regarding gender-affirming care for transgender youth, which illuminates the significant psychological benefits that such treatments can provide. Despite overwhelming evidence supporting the efficacy and safety of gender-affirming care, we lament the ongoing legislative efforts to restrict access to these vital services, showcasing how ignorance and prejudice often overshadow scientific inquiry. Drawing parallels to Douglas' family story, we highlight the hypocrisy in how society treats different marginalized groups, particularly in terms of medical autonomy.
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We look at the current legislative climate in Ohio, with a focus on the extreme measures being proposed and enacted. The Ohio State legislature this session is exhibiting a troubling trend towards more radical policies, including the controversial SB1, dubbed the Higher Education Destruction Act. This bill threatens to undermine academic freedom and censor educational content while limiting the rights of faculty to advocate for their rights through strikes. In response to these alarming developments, initiatives are underway to put a repeal of SB1 on the ballot, encouraging the public to participate actively in this critical issue.
We also look at the bill that would ban ranked choice voting, which would prevent municipalities from adopting this more equitable electoral system while penalizing them financially for doing so. Opponents' claims regarding ranked choice voting are scrutinized, revealing misinformation by supporters of the ban. We argue that equitable representation is paramount, especially when the current two-party system often stifles genuine competition and fails to reflect the will of the electorate.
Then we take a deep dive into Ohio's school voucher system, masked under the guise of educational choice but functioning essentially as a financial scheme that shifts public funding to private enterprises. The data underscores that the vast majority of voucher funds benefit families already able to choose private education, leaving many rural communities without access to private schooling options. This Ponzi scheme on public education reveals a deliberate agenda to diminish public schooling and redistribute more resources away from already underfunded districts.
By articulating the devastating consequences of these legislative developments, we advocate for a thoughtful examination of the policies being proposed and the necessity for collective action among those who value public education and equitable governance.
00:50 Ohio Legislative Update
19:30 School Voucher Ponzi Scheme
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In this milestone 100th episode of the Glass City Humanist, we welcome Toledo activist Sean Nestor for an in-depth discussion on activism within our community. Sean shares his journey from high school political engagement sparked by the looming Iraq War to his current role in revitalizing local media and promoting civic involvement. We delve into the nuances of Toledo's political climate, discussing whether it truly aligns with progressive ideals or if there's a disconnect between grassroots sentiment and political leadership.
Sean emphasizes the importance of recognizing the people-centered aspect of activism. He reflects on past experiences where he faced opposition but chose to persist, ultimately shaping his commitment to civic engagement. As we discuss the resurrection of the Toledo Free Press, Sean recounts the strategic moves that led the project from simple archival efforts to a functioning newspaper, highlighting the collaborative nature of activism. His passion for citizen initiatives shines through as he explains how empowering the local populace can lead to meaningful legislative changes.
We discuss Toledo's perception as a progressive city. While some elected officials perceive it as conservative, Sean challenges this viewpoint, suggesting that many grassroots movements reflect a more progressive populace eager for representation. Sean articulates the disconnect between political leaders and the electorate, drawing attention to significant issues like the decriminalization of marijuana, which received overwhelming support from voters despite political pushback. This discrepancy underscores the need for politicians to be more attuned to their constituents.
Our engaging conversation serves as a call to action for listeners, encouraging them to reflect on their roles within their communities and the broader implications of their activism. Join us as we celebrate 100 episodes of fostering humanism and community engagement, and be inspired by Sean's unwavering commitment to creating a more just and compassionate society.
01:00 Marking 100 Episodes and commitment for more
14:19 Why Activism Matters: It's the People, Not the Process
54:53 Resurrecting the Toledo Free Press
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Our guest is Natalie Hastings, an organizer for Honesty for Ohio Education and Ohioans Against Extremism. The conversation delves deep into the state of public education in Ohio, the implications of grassroots organizing, and the critical importance of maintaining the separation of church and state.
Hastings recounts how her experience as a mother and a public school advocate inspired her to engage in activism. After noticing detrimental changes in her community’s public school policies following the election of conservative board members, she rallied with other parents to challenge a resolution that limited discussions around race, gender, and socio-economic issues. This grassroots movement led to successful litigation that removed the policy. Through her advocacy, Hastings became acquainted with Honesty for Ohio Education, a group committed to fighting against curriculum censorship and ensuring a safe educational environment for all students.
We review the legislative battles over mandated release time for religious instruction in public schools. Despite setbacks, Hastings finds value in the community engagement and alliances that formed during the fight. She discusses the power of grassroots movements, highlighting that even small concessions can be seen as victories in an uphill struggle. Through this narrative, Hastings emphasizes that community mobilization and persistent advocacy are essential for safeguarding public education rights.
01:00 Grassroots Organizing & Released Time Religious Instruction Mandates
19:35 School Vouchers in Ohio and Tool Kits
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We explore third places, which are crucial for fostering community by providing inclusive and open environments where people from diverse backgrounds can socialize and interact without the pressures of their primary home or work life. These spaces include cafes, parks, and community centers, each serving as an anchor for social interaction. We articulate how our humanist group embodies the essence of a third place, being a venue for laughter, conversation, and support, as well as a hub for activism in the greater Toledo area. We assert that the importance of cultivating such spaces cannot be overstated, as they play a vital role in enhancing both mental and physical well-being and can contribute economically to local businesses through communal events.
Shifting gears, we take a critical look at the recent online event hosted by Moms4Liberty, an organization misrepresented as a grassroots movement. During this unsettling online lecture titled "Gender Ideology 101," we dissect the misleading narratives presented by supposed experts who privilege fearmongering over factual discourse. We identify the key speakers at the event, including those with dubious credentials, and interpret their arguments that perpetuate harmful stereotypes about the transgender community. Their discussions notably mischaracterized the complexities of gender identity as a mere social contagion, reinforcing outdated and discriminatory views rather than embracing contemporary rational understanding of gender.
Throughout the lecture, we observe how the speakers employed emotional rhetoric to vilify trans individuals while lacking substantive evidence to support their claims. We reflect on the pervasive theme of normalcy within their arguments, demonstrating how entrenched societal norms often marginalize those who deviate from them. We emphasize the necessity of rigorous discourse around gender identity, one that should be rooted in science and compassion rather than sensationalism and fear. Our examination of this event serves as a call to action, urging listeners to critically engage with the information from these organizations and to advocate for an inclusive society that respects and affirms all identities. Human dignity is NOT debatable.
01:00 Finding a Third Place
14:38 Right wingers So Wrong About Trans People
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On March 18th, a significant ruling from Ohio's 10th District Court declared the state’s ban on gender-affirming healthcare for transgender youth unconstitutional, a decision made in light of an appeal from the ACLU of Ohio. We explore the implications of this ruling, from its roots in legal arguments to the broader message it conveys about the protection of human rights.
Transitioning to our guest segment, we chat with Jeff Brooks from the Bluewater Atheists, Humanists, and Agnostics (BAHA) about their upcoming BAHACon in Sarnia, Ontario. Jeff provides a detailed perspective on the goals and logistics of this exciting event slated for August. We touch on the rich history of the conference, which aims not only to entertain but also to foster education and connection within the humanist community. We learn about the array of speakers lined up, including well-known figures like Seth Andrews, and the diverse programming designed to encourage dialogue and community building among attendees.
Jeff shares insights into the importance of a friendly and inclusive atmosphere at the conference, emphasizing the design of the event to facilitate interactions among participants. Attendees can expect engaging talks, delicious meals, and the unique opportunity to socialize with speakers in a relaxed environment. The highlight of the weekend will be a scenic boat cruise along the St. Clair River, where conference-goers can continue discussions in a picturesque setting.
01:00 Some good news for Ohio's Trans community
10:22 Talking BAHACon with Jeff Brooks
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In this episode, we look at the pressing issue of rising egg prices in the United States and yet another attempt to inject religion into Ohio public schools.
We explore the interplay of economics and environmental factors driving the increases in egg prices influenced by the avian flu which has severely impacted the egg-laying bird population. We break down the economic principles at play, explaining how supply shortages due to mass culls of infected flocks have help lead to higher prices while demand remains steady.
We also share anecdotal evidence that highlights the challenges of sourcing eggs through alternative means, such as homesteading. A friend's costly venture in raising chickens offers a stark contrast to the factory-farming practices that dominate the market. The discourse then shifts towards the ethics of those practices, examining how factory farming not only compromises animal welfare but also how it contributes to industry-wide vulnerabilities when diseases like avian flu strike.
Then we transition into a legislative discussion surrounding Senate Bill 34, introduced in the Ohio legislature, which aims to promote specific historical documents, including the Ten Commandments, in public school classrooms. We scrutinize the motivations behind this bill, suggesting it serves as a thinly veiled attempt to interject religious doctrine into public education. By comparing historical context and Supreme Court precedents, we argue that this legislation undermines the principle of church-state separation and reflects a troubling trend of religious nationalism within educational policymaking.
The premise that displaying the Ten Commandments would cultivate better citizenship is challenged as we emphasize the importance of addressing actual educational needs—like providing school meals—over advancing a religious agenda.
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We look at the urgent and current threats to democracy and how our humanist values compel us to take direct action. The discussion emphasizes that as humanists, we hold accountable our shared principles of social justice, compassion, and critical engagement in times when these ideals are increasingly under siege.
We reflect on the challenging political landscape we now face, particularly with the implications of the Trump administration returning to power. We point out the aggressive tactics employed during his previous terms, and how this administration appears intent on dismantling essential social support systems, targeting marginalized groups, and undermining democratic processes. This heavy backdrop sets the stage for a more profound understanding of why activism and local engagement are vital now more than ever.
Throughout the episode, we emphasize the necessity of solidarity, particularly in the face of discriminatory legislation such as the passing of Senate Bill 1 in Ohio, which undermines the fundamental principles of higher education and inquiry. It is crucial that we oppose such regressive measures, and our group has taken decisive steps to signal this, including passing a resolution affirming our commitment to LGBTQ+ rights and opposing bigotry in all its forms.
We also explore the recently reported assaults on human rights around the globe outlined in the Freedom of Thought report published by Humanist International. We share an excerpt from a recent press presentation that illustrates the extreme repercussions faced by non-religious individuals in various countries, emphasizing that blasphemy laws and similar structures not only oppress free thought but also enable broader societal violence against marginalized groups.
We celebrate solidarity as a cornerstone of humanist values and stress the importance of staying informed about ongoing legislative actions and supporting movements that advocate for equality and justice. Each of us has a role to play in championing a democratic society that respects every individual's intrinsic dignity and rights, and we encourage all of us to rise to this occasion as we work together towards a more compassionate and equitable future.
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We dive into the latest developments regarding the contentious case surrounding Dad's Place Church in Bryan, Ohio. The narrative grapples with complex issues of religious freedom, municipal regulations, and homelessness, ignited by Pastor Chris Avell's decision to operate a homeless shelter within his church premises without the required permits. As tensions mount between the pastor, the local government this discussion critically examines whether religious convictions should override health and safety regulations.
We further critique Ohio Attorney Generl David Yost's assertion that religious establishments should not be treated worse than other secular businesses, especially when it comes to code enforcement. We counter that claim by exploring the principle of equality under the law, emphasizing that granting exceptions based on religious identity could lead to broader societal imbalances and implications for community welfare. Using analogies involving past legal cases where churches received special treatment, the conversation asks critical questions about religious privilege and accountability in civic life.
This serves as a provocative examination of the intersection between faith-based initiatives and civic regulation, compelling listeners to ponder: Should religious freedom be a shield against regulation, or is it necessary for communities to enforce the same standards for all? We invite the audience to reflect on the essential questions of justice, morality, and the enduring struggle to balance kindness with accountability in a world rife with division.
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In this episode, we have a visit with Fish Stark, the new Executive Director of the American Humanist Association (AHA). Stark, who officially took on the role in August 2024, shares his gripping origin story steeped in familial influences and the core values of humanism, shaped significantly by his father, Pete Stark, the first openly atheist member of the U.S. Congress and 2008 AHA Humanist of the Year.
As Stark seamlessly transitions into his new role, he elaborates on the mission and future of AHA, targeting the overwhelming need for individuals to find meaning and community in a contentious political climate. He highlights the alarming rise of extremism fueled by individuals searching for identity and purpose, often leading them to less savory outlets. Stark envisions the AHA as a vibrant, inclusive space where the 40 million Americans who identify as secular—yet may not label themselves as humanists—can find solidarity, identity, and opportunities for collective action.
Stark touches upon the organization's recent initiatives, such as the "Democracy Not Theocracy" campaign aimed at countering the encroachment of religious extremism in politics, especially with the just concluded election period. Stark outlines his plans to enhance the infrastructure supporting local chapters of the AHA, ensuring they receive the guidance and resources necessary to thrive.
The episode culminates with Stark's candid discussion on pressing social issues, such as the implications of recent legislative changes in Ohio surrounding release time religious instruction in public schools. Stark's views underscore the importance of maintaining a separation between church and state and the critical conversation on teaching empathy, compassion, and justice devoid of religious context—rooted instead in humanistic values, all supported by science.
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We open this episode promoting a workshop Douglas is facilitating in January with the American Humanist Association Center for Education. The topic is helping Humanists speak up through writing letters to the editor, being interviewed by the press and being an advocate for issues Humanists care about.
Next we delve into the legislative debates surrounding Substitute House Bill 8, which has been characterized by its ties to the so-called "Don't Say Gay" bill introduced by Christian nationalists in the statehouse. Despite the veneer of parental rights, this bill fundamentally aims to stifle discussions about gender identity in education, pushing harmful narratives against LGBT youth.
As we unpack the intricacies of House Bill 8, we express deep concerns about its implications for children and the unnecessary burden it places on educators and parents alike. We highlight how specific amendments and tactics have been employed to limit public opposition to these bills. The broader implications for the education system and the rights of marginalized communities are significant, and we seek to amplify the voices of those who oppose these movements.
We examine the effort to include mandating Released Time Religious Instruction policies even as the stand alone bills wouldn't have passed before the end of the legislative session. The inclusion in HB 8 was meant to bypass the normal legislative process and get an unpopular law passed in a gerrymandered super majority.
00:59 Humanists Speakup Workshop
09:29 Ohio's Don't Say Gay Bill Mandates RTRI in public schools
30:13 House Bill 8 Pass So What Now?
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We dive deep into the ongoing legislative efforts surrounding LifeWise Academy, a Christian nationalist organization seeking to establish Bible classes in public schools during school hours. As the Ohio State Legislature enters its lame duck session, critical issues have arisen concerning the implications of integrating religious instruction into the public education system. We discuss the irony in religious conservative's opposition to perceived indoctrination in schools while actively working to insert their own bible based curriculum through legislative maneuvering.
The pressure mounts on lawmakers to pass bills that could fundamentally alter the nature of public education in Ohio. Notably, Ohio House Bill 445 and Ohio Senate Bill 293 are designed to force school districts to adopt policies that allow for release time religious instruction, which would pull students from their classrooms to attend these sessions. We express concern regarding the pushback from not just secular humanists, but from various religious groups who feel that such actions by LifeWise undermine the integrity of public schooling and violate the principle of separation of church and state and not to mention marginlizes other sects.
We share insights into the testimonies from recent hearings, highlighting a significant number of opposition voices who fear the repercussions of allowing any one religious ideology to infiltrate the public school curriculum. We illustrate the disconnect between proponents of these bills and the actual ramifications of their passing. One particularly revealing exchange involves Joel Penton, the CEO of LifeWise, who appears to misunderstand the basis for the pushback against their program. His statement insinuates that the increasing scrutiny of LifeWise's efforts is merely a byproduct of their growing program, while many opponents raise crucial ethical points regarding the integration of religious instruction with public schooling and the potential coercion involved.
We look at the real motives behind LifeWise's strategy, emphasizing their aim to recruit and indoctrinate students as young as possible. The proof is in video clips from LifeWise representatives discussing their focus on elementary school children, revealing their planned approach to evangelism within an educational context that raises serious ethical and legal questions.
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We delve into the complexities of grief and its manifestations in our lives, particularly from the unique perspective of a humanist. Grief is not only reserved for the loss of loved ones but extends to experiences such as a beloved sports team's defeat or the heart-wrenching outcome of an election. After the recent 2024 presidential election, many progressives, including humanists, felt a profound sense of loss as the majority voted in a manner contrary to our inclusive values. We unpack the necessity of acknowledging our grief as a human experience, suggesting that owning it, sharing it, and ultimately processing it can be beneficial for our emotional journey.
Transitioning from personal grief, we pivot to urgent societal issues, focusing on the distressing reality of legislative changes affecting marginalized communities, particularly the LGBTQ+ population in Ohio. Recently, the Ohio Statehouse passed a bathroom ban targeting the trans community, a decision implemented through underhanded tactics. We discuss the motivations behind this legislation, highlighting the baseless fears propagated by Christian nationalists, who seek to impose their values on the rights of others. Despite these challenges, We stress the need to confront these injustices head-on and commit to advocating for our marginalized friends and family members.
Finally we look at biological concepts regarding gender and sexual identity, underscoring the complexity that challenges simple binarism. Drawing on insights from a biologist's discourse on chromosomes and hormonal variations, We emphasize that the biological classification of sex is anything but straightforward. This illustrates the need for greater empathy and understanding in our discussions about identity and rights, advocating for kindness and respect over prejudice and judgment.
01:00 Dealing with grief as a Humanist
20:01 Ohio's Trans Bathroom Ban
36:36 The science behind biological sex
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Host Douglas Berger recently gave a presentation at the First Unitarian Church of Toledo, where he addressed the controversial topic of Release Time Religious Instruction (RTRI) in Ohio, with a particular focus on LifeWise Academy, which aims to provide religious education during the school day.
We start by defining RTRI, explaining its legal background, and detailing how LifeWise Academy, founded by Joel Penton, operates within the law to remove children from public school to teach them biblical principles. Douglas argues that while this practice may be legal, it poses serious ethical and practical challenges for public education. LifeWise’s mission, as explained, is not to simply provide voluntary religious educational opportunities, but rather to convert public schools into platforms for religious indoctrination, which we believe undermines the common good that public schools are meant to serve.
Throughout the discussion, Douglas highlights the potential dangers of LifeWise Academy's approach, citing Penton's belief that public schools are essentially a mission field for spreading their religious teachings. We emphasize that these programs disrupt the school day and divert essential resources, arguing that instead of using taxpayer dollars to support a religious curriculum, we should ensure that public schools remain a neutral space that serves all students, regardless of their beliefs.
Douglas walks listeners through the legal framework of RTRI, including significant Supreme Court cases that have shaped its implementation. He notes the troubling patterns he has observed, such as deceptive marketing strategies employed by LifeWise to promote their programs in local schools, and the lack of transparency and accountability in how they operate. Particular concern is raised about the extreme religious views sometimes promulgated in these classes, which include provocative teachings on gender and biblical sacrifice directed at very young children, arguably undermining inclusive education.
Douglas urges listeners to become active participants in local educational governance by attending school board meetings, forming coalitions against the expansion of RTRI programs, and advocating for clear policies that safeguard the integrity of public education. I provide practical steps for community members, including potential legislative actions that would amend current policies governing RTRI, and highlight the importance of documenting any abuses or violations tied to these programs.
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We start out by looking into the complex intersection of politics and disaster recovery. Recent events, particularly the devastating impacts of Hurricane Milton—following closely on the heels of Hurricane Helene—prompt a reflection on how political narratives can distort the truth of emergency assistance. As communities in Florida and the Carolinas grapple with severe weather damage, misinformation begins to circulate, largely perpetuated by certain political factions. We recount how, after Hurricane Helene, a disinformation campaign questioned the adequacy of federal disaster relief funds, falsely claiming that victims would only receive $750, while overlooking the extensive resources offered by FEMA and undermining the very science that informs our understanding of these disasters.
This politicization of disaster relief not only misleads the public but can also hinder individuals from seeking necessary assistance when they most need it. This also highlights the broader implications of anti-science rhetoric that has emerged from conservative leaders, particularly their attempts to undermine the value of scientific forecasting and climate change data. Through a critical lens, we analyze how the truth about disaster recovery funding and the context surrounding these storms is manipulated to serve narrow political agendas, which ultimately jeopardizes community welfare.
Transitioning into a different but equally pertinent theme, we share insights from Douglas' recent public appearance at the Maumee Valley Unitarian Universalist Congregation, where he spoke on Secular Humanism. He navigated the nuances of being a secular humanist, a perspective that operates outside the confines of organized religion while advocating for humanist values rooted in reason, empathy, and a shared commitment to community well-being. We explore what sets secular humanism apart from Congrgational humanism, addressing its historical context and the societal implications of being considered an "ugly stepchild" in the wider humanist movement.
Douglas emphasizes the importance of building bridges rather than barriers amidst differing worldviews. He recounts his experiences with the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie, the organization he represents, and how we strive to create a welcoming environment for all individuals regardless of their belief systems. His remarks provoke thought on the balance between fostering community and respecting diverse beliefs, even as we remain steadfast in our commitment to social justice and ethical responsibility.
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Ron Millar is our guest. He is the political action committee (PAC) manager for the Center for Freethought Equality, which operates under the American Humanist Association. With over 40 years of experience in nonprofit education and advocacy, including a significant tenure at the Secular Coalition for America, Millar shares his insights into the intersection of politics and humanist values.
We discuss the structure and purpose of the Center for Freethought Equality, explaining its dual role: as an advocacy group (C4) that engages in lobbying and running a political action committee that can donate funds to candidates. Millar elaborates on the importance of having a visible humanist constituency within the political landscape, indicating that social and political biases against atheists and humanists persist, though they are diminishing.
The conversation also reveals the importance of networking and community-building among secular elected officials. Millar highlights the establishment of the Association of Secular Elected Officials, which aims to create a support network for elected representatives who identify with humanist and atheist values. He speaks about recent activities, including their presence at the Democratic National Convention, where they engaged attendees and raised awareness for the secular community.
We address the ongoing challenges posed by growing movements of white Christian nationalism, stressing the need for increased engagement from the humanist community in the political process. Millar encourages listeners to become active participants by volunteering for local campaigns, sharing their identities as humanists, and advocating for policies that align with their values, thus building recognition as a political constituency.
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We engage in a compelling conversation with Kyle Herman, the newly elected city council member from Stow, Ohio. With a rich background that includes experiences in both national politics and international democracy promotion, Kyle shares his journey back to his hometown and the pivotal moments that inspired his decision to serve locally.
Kyle offers insight into his political career, which began with aspirations of becoming a diplomat. His current role on the city council represents a deeper commitment to encourage thoughtful governance and community engagement within Stow, especially as he highlights the importance of local issues like urban development, inclusivity, and environmental initiatives.
We examine Kyle's experience as an openly gay public official and discuss the significance of representation. He reflects on his campaign experience, recounting how the Stow community responded positively to his candidacy without making his sexuality the focal point of his platform. This perspective underscores the changing attitudes within his community and the importance of building bridges across demographics, especially for previously underrepresented groups.
One of the highlights of our discussion centers around Kyle's initiative to invite drag queens to the Stow Fourth of July parade. He candidly describes the intention behind this decision: to foster a sense of inclusivity and showcase Stow as a welcoming community. This moment of pride, however, does not come without its challenges, as Kyle reflects on the backlash and misunderstandings that surfaced after the event. He emphasizes the importance of standing up against intolerance and reinforcing the values of kindness and acceptance.
In addressing the legislative efforts to ban ranked choice voting and the mischaracterizations surrounding it, Kyle provides clarity about how this voting method works in practice. He highlights how instant runoff elections can lead to more representative outcomes, thereby reducing the polarization that often characterizes modern political landscapes. The goal is to create a system that encourages cooperation and reflects the will of the majority, rather than a divisive, winner-takes-all approach.
Kyle reflects on the interconnectedness of his varied experiences—from international diplomacy to local governance—and how they all align with his mission to defend democracy. He passionately encourages listeners who may feel disenfranchised to get involved, offering practical advice to find their own path into civic engagement.
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Nick Fish is our guest. He is the fourth president of American Atheists in its 60-year history. We discuss his journey to the organization, the strategic plan for the next 60 years, the current climate of religious freedom in the U.S., and how groups can collaborate to uphold secular values.
Nick shares his background as a civil rights activist and his path into the secular movement. His frustration with partisan politics led him to focus on issues where religious intrusion impacts various social areas, such as LGBTQ rights, abortion access, and public education.
The conversation shifts towards the introduction of a new strategic plan by American Atheists aimed at fostering community, advocating for equality, and fighting for secularism in government. Nick outlines the importance of emphasizing religious pluralism while centering the voices of atheists in national discourse.
Nick expresses concerns about the health of religious freedom in the U.S., especially regarding the rising influence of Christian nationalism. He criticizes the misleading narratives regarding religious freedom propagated by some groups that actually seek religious supremacy rather than equality.
Nick also gives his thoughts about Released Time Religious Instruction programs like LifeWise Academy in Ohio, where public school students are allowed to leave campus for religious instruction, emphasizing that this practice detracts from actual education and can ostracize non-religious students.
Throughout the interview, Nick highlights the importance of collaboration among secular organizations and the need to build local-level activism.
Nick finally shares details about the upcoming national conference scheduled for Easter weekend in 2025, taking place in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis–Saint Paul.
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We look into the complex religious dimensions of Project 2025, a strategic initiative shaped by the Heritage Foundation and influenced by various far-right and religious conservative groups. This document serves as a comprehensive playbook for a future conservative presidential administration, detailing policies aimed at reconstituting government to align with a conservative ideology. Building upon our earlier discussions about the dangers posed by Project 2025, we focus specifically on how its religious undertones conflict with our shared humanist principles.
While Project 2025 does not primarily center on religious topics, it does touch upon the concept of religious freedom in a way that allows for discrimination under the guise of protecting sincerely held beliefs. This framework threatens to undermine civil rights protections established by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which outlaws discrimination based on race, religion, and other criteria in public accommodations. We examine how the authors advocate for policies that would enable private businesses to act on their religious convictions, potentially allowing them to legally refuse service to marginalized individuals, especially in areas such as LGBT rights—issues we previously addressed in another episode.
We then highlight a concept refered to as "communal rest," ostensibly aimed at reinstating Sabbath laws to privilege religious practices over the rights of workers. This proposal seeks to require additional compensation for work performed on Sundays while reinstating historical blue laws that serve a primarily religious purpose. These measures are inconsistent with humanist values, emphasizing the importance of separating religious observance from government regulation.
Moreover, we scrutinize the section of Project 2025 that addresses parental rights within education, particularly in relation to gender identity. The document reflects a profound misunderstanding of how transgender youth navigate their identities and the medical processes involved in transitioning. By leaning into the idea of "parental rights," the authors push back against established medical practices that support trans youth, reflecting a broader effort to delegitimize these identities entirely under regulatory frameworks. We make the case that this poses significant harm to already marginalized groups and raises ethical concerns around informed consent and accessibility to healthcare.
Interspersed throughout our commentary are historical references to the implications of anti-LGBT laws, alongside reflections on how the far-right distorts concepts such as critical race theory and anti-discrimination efforts to paint them as forms of oppression against the majority, rather than protections for vulnerable populations. This misrepresentation is designed to frame institutional racism and support for marginalized communities as threats to the established order, which is not supported by empirical evidence.
We reiterate the urgency of actively engaging with the tenets outlined in Project 2025 and invite listeners to remain vigilant against the encroachment of policies that prioritize religious conservatism over humanist values. It is essential to critically analyze how these proposals will impact our communities and work to ensure a society grounded in compassion, equity, and reason.
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We look at the details of refreshing our group's Ten Commitments prize wheel for information booths at community events. Our focus is on engaging kids with fun activities while also educating them about humanism. We redesigned the wheel, creating new wedges with shortened, inspirational messages to convey the essence of each commitment effectively.
We discuss our ongoing efforts to engage with our community through various projects, such as volunteering at the Seagate Food Bank for Project PJ and hosting free pizza and movie nights at the West Branch Toledo Library to provide options for children in economically struggling areas. Additionally, we reflect on the recent news of President Joe Biden's withdrawal from the 2024 election, highlighting the values of service, participation, and responsibility as he prioritized the country's well-being over his political ambitions.
Delving into local history, we explore the consolidation of public schools in northwest Ohio in the 1950s and 60s, focusing on the merger of Seneca-Huron and Attica schools. We uncover the unique case of Catholic nuns teaching in a public school setting post-merger, leading to questions about their roles, funding sources, and potential religious influence in the classroom. This historical exploration sheds light on the evolution of public education and the complexities of church-state separation in rural communities.
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We start with concerns surrounding politics, particularly Christian nationalism, in the United States. The focus is on the worrisome alignment between the Republican Party and Christian nationalists who wrongly believe that the US was founded as a Christian nation. We recommend two documentaries, "Bad Faith" and "God and Country," which shed light on the politics and beliefs of Christian nationalists. "Bad Faith" delves into the political roots of Christian nationalism, while "God and Country" explores perspectives of Christians concerned about this movement.
The discussion looks into the historical background of Christian nationalism, citing pivotal figures like Paul Weyrich, who shifted evangelical Christians' political focus from supporting segregation to opposing abortion in the 1970s. We then highlight concerns about Christian nationalist groups infiltrating public schools, such as LifeWise, to teach Bible stories disguised as character education. Criticisms of the curriculum's content, including stories promoting human sacrifice and submission, are addressed. The episode covers a lawsuit filed against Zach Parrish, from Parents Against LifeWise, for making LifeWise curriculum available to the public and his efforts to defend against the legal action.
In a follow up, Zach Parrish shares insights on the lawsuit, emphasizing that he accessed the curriculum legally and challenges the claim of copyright infringement by LifeWise. The episode discusses fundraising efforts to cover legal fees and the overwhelming public support he has received. Additionally, the conversation touches on a recent incident involving a former LifeWise school director's past inappropriate conduct with children, raising more concerns about individuals in LifeWise programs due to suspect background checks. The episode concludes with reflections on potential legal strategies, including considerations of anti-SLAPP laws to counter the lawsuit.
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We have a special announcement about the upcoming winter solstice potluck event in December. We reflect on the challenges the group faced during the pandemic and the excitement around reviving this tradition. The decision to have a potluck instead of a catered banquet is discussed, highlighting the importance of inclusivity and removing financial barriers for attendees.
Excitement peaks when plans to invite Gloria Steinem as a keynote speaker for the event are revealed. Douglas shares the process of reaching out to Steinem's team and the unexpected acceptance of the invitation. This news brings immense joy and pride to Douglas as he admires Steinem for embodying humanist values and principles.
Shifting gears, We delve into the alarming details of Project 2025, a conservative agenda outlined by the Heritage Foundation. We unpack the extensive proposals that threaten civil rights, democracy, and promote Christian nationalism. From implications on government employees' rights to reproductive health policies and LGBTQ rights, Project 2025 paints a grim picture of potential future governance.
We emphasize the urgency of being informed about Project 2025 and encourage listeners to seek varied sources to grasp the magnitude of its impact. We shed light on the unsettling provisions targeting marginalized communities and undermining fundamental rights. The episode ends with a call to action, urging listeners to educate themselves further on these critical issues.
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We discuss the impact of genetics on society, touching on both the positive and dark aspects of the field. We reflect on the work of Dr. Anthony Fauci in combating infectious diseases like HIV-AIDS, Ebola, Zika, and COVID-19. Dr. Fauci's dedication to saving lives and his experiences with various administrations are highlighted, along with the unfortunate security threats he faces due to political tensions.
Then we delve into the history of eugenics, citing examples of how genetics was misused to justify atrocities such as sterilizations and discriminatory practices.
We share insights from a lecture by Dr. Adam Rutherford on the dark history of genetics, emphasizing the shift from simplistic Mendelian inheritance patterns to the complex interplay of multiple genes and environmental factors in shaping traits. He critiques the perpetuation of outdated monogenic deterministic thinking in education and media, leading to racial essentialism and misunderstanding of genetic concepts. Rutherford challenges the inaccurate portrayal of genetics in popular culture, debunking sensationalized claims about genes determining complex human behaviors and characteristics.
The discussion extends to the distorted application of genetics in eugenics, with examples from Nazi Germany where pseudo-scientific racial hygiene policies led to widespread atrocities. The fraudulent foundation of eugenics, propagated by influential figures like Charles Davenport, is exposed, showcasing how flawed interpretations of genetics can have catastrophic consequences. Rutherford emphasizes the importance of revising genetic education to align with current scientific understanding and avoid reinforcing harmful ideologies rooted in eugenic thinking.
By shedding light on the intersection of genetics, eugenics, and societal beliefs, we encourage critical thinking and a nuanced approach to genetic concepts to prevent the reemergence of harmful practices. Through historical analysis and modern perspectives, we underscore the impact of accurate genetic education in shaping informed discussions and ethical considerations surrounding genetic research and applications.
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Join us as we tackle the controversial presence of LifeWise Academy in Ohio's public schools. LifeWise, a well-funded evangelical group, has been pushing religious classes under the guise of release time religious education. We discuss how they manipulate state laws to recruit elementary students to attend Bible classes off-campus, often misleading parents and school districts about their true intentions. Our guests, Molly Gaines and Zachary Parrish, co-founders of Parents Against LifeWise, share their personal journeys and experiences that led them to oppose LifeWise's influence.
We uncover the troubling lack of accountability and transparency in schools regarding LifeWise's programs. School districts are failing to track attendance and deflecting responsibility, leaving parents in the dark. We expose the concerning nature of LifeWise's curriculum, which includes harmful rhetoric and inappropriate guidance on sensitive subjects such as family dynamics and gender identity. Through specific documents and personal stories, we highlight the need for vigilance and advocacy to protect children's and parental rights in the educational system.
We also address the manipulative tactics LifeWise employs within communities, including the questionable legitimacy of its petition process and its MLM-like structure for fundraising. Our discussion reveals LifeWise's troubling affiliations with right-wing extremist groups and figures, raising ethical and transparency issues. Additionally, we explore the implications of Ohio House Bill 445 on religious freedom in public schools and the broader concerns about education privatization. Join us for a compelling conversation with Molly and Zachary, who are dedicated to raising awareness and advocating for inclusive educational practices that respect diverse religious beliefs.
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In this episode, we confront the realities of urban development and its impact on local communities. Peggy Daly-Masternak, coordinator of the I-475 Neighborhoods Coalition, sits down with us to discuss the group's determined fight against the proposed widening of Interstate 475 in Toledo. Peggy details the coalition's efforts to ensure that the voices of affected neighborhoods are heard, and she sheds light on the concerning issues of increased noise, pollution, and the potential for hazardous material transport.
Peeling back the layers of this complex issue, we uncover a history of urban planning decisions that have long-term consequences for city residents. Peggy provides a compelling argument against the expansion project, citing alarming data on traffic congestion, safety, and the alarming costs associated with the project. With a mix of personal stories and hard facts, this episode is a deep dive into the democratic process and the ongoing struggle for community rights in the face of large-scale infrastructure projects.
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Have you ever wondered how to mark life's transitions without relying on traditional religious ceremonies? Megan Sheldon, co-founder and CEO of Be Ceremonial, joins us to illuminate the world of humanist rituals. Megan shares her inspiring journey from personal grief to empowering others in creating secular ceremonies that resonate with their authentic selves. We delve into the heart of why it's crucial for individuals, especially in a society that leans secular, to have access to rituals that support personal growth and acknowledge pivotal moments—sans the religious overtones.
From the transformative croning ceremony that reclaims the beauty of aging for women to the poignant "do-over" ceremonies that allow for the reclamation of past experiences, our conversation reveals the profound impact personalized rituals can have on mental health and community. Megan also addresses the legal challenges faced by humanist celebrants, showing us the importance of legal recognition for non-religious ceremonies. With Be Ceremonial's innovative platform, Megan envisions a future where life's myriad experiences, including gender transitioning, are honored through personalized ceremonies, crafted in collaboration with those who have lived these realities. Join us as we explore how Megan's work with Be Ceremonial is crafting a new narrative for ceremony in a secular society.
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We take a very deep dive into the topic of White Christian Nationalism and why it is an existential threat to the religious freedom for all of us. Then we hear from keynote speaker Dr. Anthea Butler at the recent Summit for Religious Freedom, who well versed on the danger we are facing.
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[01:00] What is Christian Nationalism?
[16:55] Keynote speech by Dr. Anthea Butler
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We update a school busing dispute with implications regarding church and state separation. We also look into the expansion of school vouchers in Ohio, revealing that the program primarily benefits higher-income families already in private schools rather than helping low-income students in struggling public schools.
00:50 School Busing Dispute Update
15:45 Ohio School Vouchers Not Helping With School Choice
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A recent survey of people and their religion saw an increase in the number of people who picked 'no preference'. These 'nones' make up over 20% of the population yet only 1 in 5 chooses to label themselves an atheist/agnostic/humanist. What can we do to help increase the number of Humanists?
One solution advocated by some in the Humanist movement is to have Humanist congregations - Humanist churches. It is believed that people are looking for rituals, meeting on Sundays, singing hymns, and other outreaches that some believe only non-dogmatic versions of church can provide.
Glass City Humanist host Douglas Berger, who has almost 30 years experience with the Humanist movement, disagrees. While some people are looking for the church experience without the supernatural dogma, many others aren't and a vibrant Humanist movement needs to cater to the needs of many different people in different ways. Douglas believes going to church on Sunday is not only an old model it's also dying even in the sectarian religious communities. Humanists should be more open to other opportunities to grow our numbers instead of being tethered to a building.
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Have you ever walked into a room and felt like the only one who didn't belong? That's the feeling DEI initiatives aim to eradicate, and today, we're peeling back the layers of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, explaining its critical importance against a backdrop of legislative pushback here in Ohio. As universities come under fire, we debunk myths that paint DEI as a one-sided agenda. Within our humanist values, we argue for communities where everyone, irrespective of race or other identifiers, is welcomed without the barriers of special privileges.
In another thought-provoking segment, we tackle the complex controversy of the recent Alabama court case involving in vitro fertilization (IVF) and personhood. We point out that Ohio's new Reproductive Rights Act draws sharp lines in the ethical sand concerning IVF. As religious convictions clash with reproductive technologies, we examine the precarious balance between faith and science. Furthermore, the conversation extends to the sensitive issue of parental and physician decision-making in children's medical care, where we stand firm on the principle of minimal government intervention.
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When the steadfast beliefs of a small-town church collide with the rigidity of municipal codes, the result is a legal labyrinth worthy of a deep exploration. That's why Bruce Gerencser, a former evangelical minister, will share the saga of his friend Pastor Chris Avell and his federal lawsuit drama with the city of Bryan, Ohio. Amidst the clash of ideologies and legalities, we dissect the pivotal issues at play — from the constitutional guarantees of the First Amendment to the civic responsibilities of a community.
Venturing beyond legalities, our conversation pivots to the societal conundrum of rural homelessness, with Bryan serving as a microcosm of a nationwide struggle. Dad's Place Church's transformation into a shelter thrusts the spotlight upon the thin line between benevolence and zoning infractions. Where do we draw the legal line especially when the lives of those struggling is in the balance?
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01:02 Introduction
03:29 Report from WTVG in Toledo
04:00 Interview with Bruce Gerencser
46:10 Epilogue & Update
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When Ohio's political landscape takes a turn that sends shivers down the spine of every advocate for trans rights, it demands a response—mine is unapologetically fiery. The recent override of Governor DeWine's veto on House Bill 68 is more than just a legislative move; it's a cold shoulder to the well-being of trans kids who deserve gender-affirming care and the right to participate in sports. In this episode, we propose legislative changes that champion the rights of all children. From challenging religious exemptions to advocating for initiatives like free school lunches, we confront the political maneuvers that threaten to undermine our shared values of compassion and equality.
We wade through the murky waters where religion and freedom intersect, casting a spotlight on the secular challenges emerging in state legislatures. We examine the recently released State of the Secular States Report from American Atheists. These reports will tell you where your state stands on real religious freedom or has it been consumed by fake moral panics in 2024. Join us for a crucial examination of these pressing social issues and the integral role they play in the broader narrative of human rights and secularism in America.
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01:01 Gary Click's Attack on Trans Kids
13:25 American Atheists State of the Secular States Report
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We discuss the 2023 Freedom of Thought Report by Humanist International. We explore the bias in the International Religious Freedom Act and the need for more representation of atheistic and humanistic voices. We highlight discrimination faced by humanists worldwide and the challenges of mandatory religious instruction in schools. We emphasize the importance of protecting secularism and pluralism and call for collective action to dismantle barriers to freedom of thought.
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05:17 History and Context of the Freedom of Thought Report
15:48 United States Commission on International Religious Freedom has had no atheists appointed
19:51 Selected clips of speakers from Freedom of Thought Report press conference
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What if the Christmas tree had more to do with paganism than Christianity? What if your favorite holiday celebrations were more inclusive, less religious, and yet equally festive? We explore secular alternatives like Human Light and Festivus, and address the 'Happy Holidays' vs 'Merry Christmas' debate in an attempt to foster inclusivity and respect for everyone's beliefs during this festive season.
Strap in as we journey back to the rise of the religious right in the 70s and 80s, a movement not birthed out of conflicts over sex education or abortion, but a court ruling disallowing tax exemptions for religious schools endorsing racial discrimination. We analyze the political activism of Jerry Falwell and Ralph Reed, and their influence on the 2016 and 2020 elections. Ronald Reagan's role in the movement and he led to Donald Trump. We round off the episode by spotlighting the issue of conservative religious groups violating tax laws and the IRS's backlog of untouched cases due to political influence. Beware that you aren't indirectly supporting discrimination or a conservative agenda.
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00:45 Being Secular During Religious Holidays
15:07 The Real Origins of the Religious Right
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Join us for a captivating conversation with the esteemed Andrew Seidel, vice president of strategic communications for Americans United. Andrew, a seasoned attorney and ardent defender of the First Amendment, takes us through his remarkable journey in law and his dedication towards upholding the separation of church and state. He offers intriguing insights into the legal concept of 'standing' and the pivotal role of this church-state separateness in shaping many contemporary issues.
Our discourse further unravels the NOT subtle weaponization of religious freedom, a disconcerting trend that threatens democracy by privileging a select few such as the new speaker of the US House Michael Johnson, a Christian Nationalist of the first order. As we weave through the integral threads of church-state separation within the fabric of our republic, the significance of authentic religious freedom and the strive for unexceptional equality becomes evident. Andrew concludes our engrossing dialogue on a positive note, expressing optimism in the growing awareness of people towards this significant struggle. Eye-opening and enlightening, this conversation is a must for those keen on comprehending the profound correlation between religion, state, and the fight for equality in America.
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01:43 Origin Story
05:10 How Are 1St Amendment Cases Litigated?
09:14 Christian Nationalists Attack On Public Schools
15:09 Weaponizing Religious Freedom Harms Democracy
19:28 1st Amendment Doesn't Just Protect The Religious
24:01 Speaker Michael Johnson Is A Christian Nationalist Of The 1st Order.
31:14 Ending with Some Optimism
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Join us for a deeply moving conversation with Dawne Knoch Anthony, a courageous survivor of domestic abuse and religious trauma, who has redefined her life with resilience and strength. Dawne openly shares her experiences from her conservative religious upbringing to her transformation into an author and advocate.
The narrative unfolds with Dawne unspooling her early years in a religious household and her struggle-filled journey through relationships in a conservative environment. Hear her talk about the pressures of marriage, the challenge of raising and homeschooling nine children, and the debilitating depression that followed. Her tale takes a turn with her passion for writing fueling her to pen two books - one on Beethoven, her favorite composer, and a memoir of her life, all while grappling with parenting and a stifling marriage.
Dawne's story transcends her personal struggles, transforming into a beacon of hope for others. As an advocate for survivors of domestic violence and religious trauma, she gives voice to those silenced by similar circumstances. Discover how her life post-religion has been imbued with meaning and purpose, how she raises funds for domestic violence shelters through recitals, and her unwavering optimism for the future. Tune in for an inspiring and enlightening dialogue that celebrates resilience and our incredible capacity to overcome and thrive.
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Growing up a punk rock fan, I've always admired the raw emotion and honesty embedded in the genre. Reflecting this, we dive into the life of punk rock legend Henry Rollins and uncover the turbulent family dynamics that shaped him. You'll learn how those experiences shed light on the importance of families choosing to remain together out of love, not obligation, unearthing the implications of societal and religious pressures on family ties. Whether it’s Rollins’ strained relationship with his mother and stepfather or a family member of mine who severed ties with her own mother, we challenge the 'perfect' nuclear family narrative that pervades our society.
Building on the theme of societal pressures, we shift the conversation to a contentious issue that has stirred my passion for the longest time: religious education in public schools. In Ohio, a unique arrangement known as Release Time Religious Education allows public school students to attend Bible school classes during the school day. As a humanist and atheist, we grapple with the thorny issues this raises, not least the infiltration of LifeWise Academy, a group pushing for these Bible classes, into our school systems. While sifting through the delicate balance of religion and education, we raise critical questions about the role of school district personnel in student recruitment for these classes and the potential dangers therein. So, tune in for this eye-opening exploration of familial and societal tensions.
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01:00 Henry Rollins And The Myth Of The Nuclear Family
15:59 Dealing with 1st Amendment Violations In Release Time Religious Education Classes
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Join us as we delve into an insightful conversation with Dr. Reverend David Breeden, senior minister at the First Unitarian Society of Minneapolis. Listen as he walks us through the fascinating history of congregational humanism and shares the ways in which his congregation has been a part of the humanist community since 1916. Discover how his poetic writing has shaped liturgies for a secular audience, and get a better understanding of the difference between religious and secular humanism. Listen as David shares his unique experiences and insights as a humanist minister, and learn about his work to foster a safe and inclusive environment for his congregation.
This episode isn't just about congregational humanism. We also discuss Mary Midgley's idea that all solutions are incomplete, and how this thinking can inform humanist thought and our decision-making process today. Learn how the “feminine arts” were used by the Cambridge women of the World War II generation to question virtue ethics, and explore the potential impact this could have on our current view. We’ll also touch on the possible implications of new discoveries in astronomy on our understanding of the universe. Lastly, we consider why some governments might hesitate to implement solutions that could reduce poverty, and explore the potential for a society that empowers individuals to make their own life decisions. This thought-provoking episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in humanism and its potential role in our society.
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Listen in as we unravel the story of St. Anthony's Catholic Church in Toledo, a once-abandoned church that was saved from demolition by the tireless efforts of Congresswoman Marcy Kaptur and the Lucas County Land Bank. We discuss the process of determining what the building could be used for, guided by the wishes of the community and the ideas generated by a focus group. We talk about potential uses for the space, such as a health and athletics center, a museum, and a focal point for the neighborhood, while keeping the conversation rooted in the neighborhood's needs.
We look at the Lucas County Land Bank's redevelopment plans, including the shift from proposing affordable housing to a community event space. We examine a controversial proposal by Adventus, a recreational company, to turn the church into a for-profit climbing gym, and how this is not what the community wants. You'll hear how this case may set a precedent for the redevelopment of other abandoned churches in Toledo. Don't miss this engaging conversation on community development, preservation, and the creative reuse of old buildings.
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00:45 Group News
02:20 Update on St. Anthony's reuse project
26:36 Update Epilogue
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We talk about our recent experience at the Maumee Summer Fair. We don't have a lot of money for advertising and instead rely on setting up booths at festivals. The layout was different this year due to street construction. Despite this, we were able to meet new people and reconnect with some former group members. A new addition to the booth, a wheel with humanist values that people can spin for the chance to win a prize, helped educate people about Humanism and was a great activity for kids who visited.
Next we looked at the farce that was the Ohio Ballot Board on August 24th. Secretary of State, and US Senate candidate, Frank LaRose, who chairs the Ballot Board, is responsible for the ballot language for a proposed constitutional amendment called the 'Right to reproductive freedom with protections for health and safety'. LaRose's office created a draft of the language, ignoring the draft submitted by the coalition supporting the amendment. Senator Paula Hicks Hudson attempted to substitute LaRose's draft with the coalition's, but it was voted down. LaRose also changed the language so it dismisses Trans individuals. This was an effort trying to gaslight voters by using inflammatory and manipulative language in the summary that appears on the official ballot.
State Senator Theresa Gaverone violated the rules of the committee by arguing the merits of the amendment using false and inflammatory language. Senator Gaverone's statement, which was full of lies and fabrications, leaves out the fact that the current onerous regulations imposed on abortion clinics would be removed and that late-term abortions are rare and typically occur due to health complications. It's clear that some people are using manipulative tactics to prevent the abortion rights amendment from passing, but we'll see what happens in November.
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00:55 Maumee Summer Fair Recap
15:04 Guess What Happens When Christian Nationalists Write A Reproductive Rights Amendment?
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We're venturing into a discussion about renowned Professor Lee Strang, a symbolic figure of Christian Nationalism in Northwest Ohio. From his significant role in academia as a law professor at the University of Toledo to his controversial advocacy for so-called Intellectual Diversity centers at Ohio law schools, Strang's influence is widespread and thought-provoking. His recent participation in State Issue One showcases his role at the core of significant legal and societal debates.
Our discussion doesn't shy away from the controversial aspects of Strang's work. We dissect his interpretation of the First Amendment, where he argues it excludes atheism and secular humanism from the definition of religion, and discuss his belief that an unborn fetus should be constitutionally protected. We also touch on his founding of the Northwest Ohio Classical Academy, a religious school disguised as a public charter school with a distinct approach to education, and how his views on constitutional originalism shape his approach to these institutions.
Finally, we delve into the complexities of Strang's Christian nationalist influence and discuss the appearence of a quid pro quo with the leaders of the Ohio Republican Party and Ohio anti-abortion groups. By examining Strang's founding of the Northwest Ohio Classical Academy and his attempts to pass State Issue 1 with State Senator and former student Rob McColley, we provide an intriguing look into the dynamics of Trumpian politics. Whether you agree with his views or not, Strang's influence in Ohio and beyond cannot be ignored. Tune in for a fascinating exploration of one man's impact on law, education, and society in the state of Ohio.
Editor's note: Professor Strang was invited to be a guest on the show to talk about these topics. He initially agreed to appear then shortly before it was to be recorded he canceled the interview.
00:56 Introduction And Clarifications
11:27 Originalism And The 1St Amendment
24:27 Anti-Abortion Activist
30:05 Letter About Homosexuality Harming Families
41:30 Founding Of Religious School Disguised As Public Charter School
55:13 Media Darling
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Join us in our captivating dialogue with the dynamic Greer Aeschbury, Ohio's senior campaign manager with All Voting is Local Action. She provides her expert perspective on the essential work the Ohio Voter Rights Coalition is doing to ensure voting accessibility and fairness. Together, we dive deep into their battle against State Issue 1 and the repercussions of the new voter ID law.
A significant part of our discussion centers on the implications of Ohio's collaboration ban. We unravel how it adversely affects poll worker recruitment, voter registration, and voter education. Despite claims from the Secretary of State that the law is an anti-fraud measure, it's clear that it's hampering the Board of Elections' ability to cooperate effectively with community groups. We take a moment to laud the fundamental work of poll workers and encourage you, our listeners, to take an active part in this process.
As we round up our discussion, we give a nod to the upcoming special election on August 8th. It's a chance for Ohio's citizens to protect their constitutional rights, so be sure to cast your 'no' vote. We also explore the challenges in requesting and returning ballots, and the necessity of visiting your board of elections in person. With the help of the Ohio Voter Rights Coalition, we emphasize the importance of spreading the word and getting involved. Tune in to be part of this enlightening discussion and make a difference in promoting accessible and fair voting.
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01:01 Introduction and Voting No on August 8th
07:57 Getting a free ID to vote isn't completely free
13:42 Collaboration ban hurts poll worker recruitment
22:58 What can average person do against these voting obstacles
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Join us as we sit down with Josie Schreiber, a regional organizer for Rank the Vote Ohio, to uncover how the implementation of ranked choice voting can shift the dynamics of our current election system. Listen as Josie reveals the mechanisms of ranked choice voting, highlighting its potential to secure a majority vote for winning candidates and eliminate voter apathy. Our enlightening discussion explores the organization’s mission and efforts to promote a stronger voice and greater choice for all Ohioans.
Josie also offers a historical perspective on ranked choice voting in Ohio, discussing its impact on representation in elections and how it can potentially revolutionize our electoral process. We also talk about the tangible changes that ranked choice voting can bring, such as eliminating toxic campaign practices and empowering the people's voice. Josie’s passion for a more inclusive, representative democracy shines through as we discuss the many ways ranked choice voting can make democracy more accessible and fair for everyone. Don’t miss this insightful conversation!
This is our 60th episode!
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01:00 What is Rank the Vote Ohio and Ranked Choice Voting
06:49 Some Concerns Addressed
13:49 Opposition to State Issue 1
16:35 How Do We Get Involved
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Join us for a riveting discussion with Allison Gill, Vice President of Legal and Policy for American Atheists. Listen in as we discuss the mission of American Atheists and their ongoing fight for religious equality. We also touch on the case of an incarcerated person in West Virginia being forced to undergo religious substance abuse treatment in order to qualify for parole, as well as a Fifth Circuit case in Mississippi on the state's license plate motto reading “In God We Trust”.
We also discuss American Atheists' state scorecards, which provide benchmarks across states and show how many states have or don't have certain protections in place. We explore how these scorecards differ from a voter's guide and how they are used for advocacy purposes. Additionally, we touch on the tactic of filing a First Amendment lawsuit against abortion bans and why it is not always ideal.
Finally we examine the idea of Third Party Harm and how granting religious exemptions can be destructive and favor some religions over others. We highlight the importance of seeking help from organizations such as the National Suicide Helpline and the Trevor Project in light of the coordinated attack on the trans community happening in Ohio.
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01:00 Episode Note
02:45 American Atheists mission to defend religious freedom
11:46 State Score Cards
17:43 Using the 1st amendment to protect abortion rights
20:30 Third party harm and religious freedom
26:12 Religious Extremism Targeting the LGBTQ Community
36:30 How to contact American Atheists if you believe your rights were violated
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What happens when you combine the power of women voters with a dedication to inclusivity and advocacy? You get the incredible League of Women Voters, Toledo, Lucas County! We had the pleasure of talking with Anne Fabazac Payne, the organization's co-president, who shared her insights on the league's mission and we dove into the new voter restrictions in the state, highlighting hidden barriers like government-issued ID requirements and the need for birth certificates to verify name changes.
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00:45 Intro/League Of Women Voter's Mission
08:21 Barriers To Voting In Ohio
30:10 Education Bills That Worry The League
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As the weather turns warmer, Humanists look to attend various conferences, events, and fairs. We gather in groups for affirmation, networking and the fun of socializing. We speak to Bob Barnes, President of Bluewater Atheists Humanists and Agnostics in Sarnia Ontario, about their conference coming up in August.
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We talk to the interim executive director of the American Humanist Association, Nicole Carr, about her journey to Humanism, why social justice is important (it's about church and state), and what goes into awarding the Humanist of the Year honor.
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01:55 Intro/Journey To Humanism
09:44 Social Justice Is About Church And State Issues
16:18 Deciding How To Award The Humanist Of The Year
21:19 The 82nd AHA Conference
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Part memoir, part step-by-step guide, 'On Drowning Rats: How Two Women Took Down A Sexual Harasser and How You Can Too' tells the triumphant story of Rachel Richardson and Cami Roth Szirotnyak, two women who discovered they were sexually harassed by the same man (one of Toledo’s most prominent nonprofit founders and fundraisers), and how they successfully—and publicly—sought justice.
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00:59 Introduction And Learning They A Lot In Common
19:10 One Incident Is Too Many - Why They Fought Back
28:30 Should We Let A Harasser Be Redeemed?
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The Missouri Legislature enacted a total ban on abortion and were not subtle about writing and supporting it because of their religious beliefs. Rachel Laser, President of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State is our guest. She will explain why her group joined with faith leaders in a lawsuit to block the ban why separation of church and state is the foundation of democracy and we learn about an upcoming Religious Freedom conference hosted by her group.
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01:00 Intro/Missouri Abortion Ban Lawsuit
19:38 The Summit for Religious Freedom (SRF)
23:08 Johnson Amendment
28:33 School Vouchers
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Toledo found out about algal blooms when they caused the water supply to shut down for three days in 2014. Mike Ferner, activist and former Toledo city council member, and his group, Lake Erie Advocates, have the solution to the blooms but the Ohio statehouse isn't listening. Is it too late?
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00:50 Why We Should Oppose Factory Farming
12:19 Maumee Dumps Sewage And What We Can Do To Help
23:25 Mike's Thoughts On East Palatine And Carty Finkbeiner
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At our January meeting, we had Jill Burdick from Camp Quest Michigan via Zoom to tell us all about the only summer camp for kids not based on religious beliefs. Camp Quest has many locations around the country and it's time to sign up to be a camper or volunteer or to donate so more kids can attend.
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00:49 Prolog & WAKT Announcement
07:24 Overview of Camp Quest
25:03 Camp Quest is inclusive
42:39 General costs and communication
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We learn about the recent Ohio law that forces colleges and universities to do what many already do - make accommodations for religious believers. A push for safe housing in Maumee gets a push back from landlords not wanting to spend the money to comply. March 1st brings an end to the pandemic allotment of food stamps. People shouldn't have to worry about paying for food.
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00:55 Does the Government Test Your Faith?
19:54 Safe Housing Push Back in Maumee
32:19 End of Pandemic SNAP Allotment and End of Amazon Smiles
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We look at why Humanism doesn't belong in Interfaith spaces and we hear a letter to the editor about addressing violent crime in Toledo. We also take time out to acknowledge a show milestone.
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00:46 Episode 50!
05:13 Say No To Interfaith
25:31 Letter to the Editor
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We look at critical thinking. What does it include and how do we not misuse it. Then we take a look at another church and state issue at a local school during election day. Was it on purpose?
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**00:45 Critical Thinking Can Save The World
19:37 Bible Quotes At A Public School On Election Day**
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Michael Werner, longtime member of the Unitarian Church and a past President of the American Humanist Association, believes an effort to finally update the church's bylaws will extinguish the strong history of Humanism and leave the church open to the evils of post modernism. Werner also believes that the church is abandoning Enlightenment principles of reason, science, tolerance, affirming the inherent worth of all people, and replacing it with work on social and racial justice issues. Is that really true?
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01:00 Interview with Michael Werner
37:18 The Black Empowerment Controversy
50:08 Social Justice Is Not Pie
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Religious conservatives are performing school assemblies and funneling kids to church all at taxpayer expense and earlier this month the SHoWLE Board voted to ban weapons at meetings. Doug explains why.
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00:45 Fake School Assemblies
16:14 SHoWLE bans guns at meetings
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How can one sell Humanism to the public without appropriating suspect tactics used by the religious to recruit to their groups? Doug talks about his experiences selling Humanism over the years and how we can reach people and bring them to us. Finally we give an update about a busing dispute involving religious school kids and a public school district.
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Organized groups are having trouble with declining numbers because younger people don't think the groups address their concerns like social justice. Secular groups should address those issues because they have long roots in the conflict between church and state.
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00:50 Our upcoming events
06:18 Get Younger or Die
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Our guest is Marcee Lichtenwald, a member of SHoWLE, who is a volunteer patient escort with the Toledo Abortion Center We talk about the post Roe landscape for reproductive rights, her time as a patient escort, and what we can do to support abortion rights.
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01:00 A Post Roe World
07:34 Ban is a violation of the 1st amendment
11:06 Why we need patient escorts
21:19 I Fund Abortions
25:15 What to know when protesting
27:26 Protesting churches
31:10 How can men support abortion rights?
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In this episode, we look at the just concluded US Supreme Court term and how it shakes out for religious freedom. It isn't good.
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02:28 Boston Flag Case
13:15 Free Money for religious schools
20:12 Coach is kneeling on a prayer
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Robyn Blumner of the Center of Inquiry took the opportunity, in a recent editorial, to slam identity politics, woke progressives, and took a cheap shot at the American Humanist Association.
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01:22 Why aren't all individuals important to Humanism?
13:55 Richard Dawkins the Snowflake
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We interview Bob Barnes from Bluewater Atheists Humanists and Agnostics in Sarnia Ontario, about their conference coming up in August. Then we note other conferences and events this summer and fall.
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01:27 Talking BAHACon with Bob Barnes
21:22 Other Conferences and events this summer and fall
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Bruce Gerencser knows something about evangelical Christians. He pastored Evangelical churches for twenty-five years in Ohio, Texas, and Michigan. He left the ministry in 2005, and in 2008 he left Christianity. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. We talk to him about his journey to freethought and we get his intimate insights about evangelical Christians and why we need to be wary of them.
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01:12 Bruce's Journey to Humanism
20:40 The Problem with Evangelicals
28:24 What Can Be Done with Christian Nationalism
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We talk to Hemant Mehta, also known as the Friendly Atheist about his move to OnlySky.media, how he came to atheism, his thoughts on banning books and other Christian Nationalist activities, and his mantra that if you don't like something get active.
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01:20 Moving To The Onlysky Platform
10:49 Becoming The Friendly Atheist And Dealing With Evangelicals
21:17 The Problem Of Christian Nationalism
28:04 If You Don't Like Something, Get Active
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We look at the use of Release Time Religious Instruction in some Northwest Ohio public schools and why the mixing of religion and the schools might be legal but it is at best unethical. We also share an update about the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie and this podcast.
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01:15 Some announcements
10:33 Release Time Religious Instruction in Elwood
30:00 Correction
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Does making amends decades after a wrong choice fix anything? Can having children actually be immoral? and what two women with Toledo connections have played a part in the history of Humanism?
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00:45 New Cover Art
02:52 Making Amends
17:59 Anti-natalism
24:58 Two Humanist Women with Toledo Connections
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In this episode we find out that even Humanists have concerns about people we honor as Humanists of the Year and that is a good thing. Douglas then talks about the recent report released by the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty and the Freedom From Religion Foundation about the connection of Christian nationalism to the January 6th Insurrection.
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00:51 AHA Humanists of the Year Hindsight
19:08 Christian nationalism & the January 6th Insurrection
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In this episode, we have a panel discussion about personal responsibility with some members of the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie. Then as a free bonus we talk about a church and state case recently before the US Supreme Court concerning flying the Christian flag in front of Boston City Hall.
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00:58 Show Intro
03:55 Personal Responsibility Discussion
23:24 Boston City Hall Flag Case
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In this episode, we look at the real reason for the season and how our holidays began with early humans marking the shortest day of the year in hopes that light would return. Next Douglas talks about actor Wil Wheaton's recent social media post admitting to his homophobic past and how Humanists and others can follow his current path to be better people then finally we note how some Star Trek fans, in an effort to maintain their bigotry, miss the entire point of Star Trek.
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01:07 Thank a Pagan for Christmas
20:36 It is never too late to be a better person
31:48 The Wokeness of Star Trek
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In this episode our guest is poet Megan Rahm. We discuss her book of poetry 'Free to Roam: Poems from a Heathen Mommy' and her journey to freethought. She not only shares some selections from the book but also talks about her mental health struggles, her chosen artform, and her upcoming memoir.
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00:58 Quintessential Midwest mom
08:49 Girl Mom and other selections
17:12 Future Plans
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In this episode we talk to Kevin Bolling, the executive director of the Secular Student Alliance, which is the only national organization dedicated to atheist, humanist, and other non-theist students. We discuss what the SSA is and does, its efforts to protect real religious freedom on campuses across the country, and what SSA is looking forward to in the future.
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00:58 We Are Secular Students
12:44 Real Religious Freedom on Campus
20:51 What does the future hold
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In this episode we talk to Emily Newman from the American Humanist Association about forced patriotism, the false narrative about Critical Race Theory being taught in school and what's coming up from the AHA as it looks for a new executive director.
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00:57 Forced Patriotism
08:39 The Myth of Critical Race Theory
17:41 An AHA Update
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In this episode we talk to the well known and respected Dr. PZ Myers about the war on science, spiders, and why we shouldn't put heroes on pedestals including PZ himself.
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**1:34 PZ's Origin Story
3:17 The War On Science
9:00 How PZ Became An Atheist
13:19 Calling Out Bad Atheists
17:49 The Myth Of Cancel Culture
22:11 Spiders! Oh My!!**
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In this episode we take a look at our history through two individuals who expressed a humanist outlook even if they weren't humanists as we think of today. Albert Sabin and Pauline Steinem came from poor backgrounds to accomplish renown in their time. We also look at some news for the group.
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01:12 Pauline Perlmutter Steinem
10:33 Dr. Albert Sabin
23:34 Group News
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In this episode, we talk to Chris Highland a former Protestant minister for 14 years and an Interfaith chaplain for 25 years. We discuss his journey to Humanism, his efforts trying to build bridges between people of faith and freethinkers, and his various writings on the topic including a weekly column in his local newspaper. We'll also touch on his recent controversial remarks about "Angry, Anti-religious Atheists".
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01:08 Journey to Humanism: My Faith Evaporated
24:45 Angry Anti-religious Atheists
42:17 End Note: We Got A Grant
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In this episode, we talk to John Lombard, a former evangelical missionary and church planter, who spent over 25 years in China. We talk about his journey to Humanism, his important work as a Cultural Diversity consultant for businesses, and his long time efforts to educate the west about the Mosuo, an ethnic minority in China.
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01:02 Journey to Humanism
07:03 What is Cultural Diversity
27:59 Introduction to the Mosuo
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In this episode, Douglas talks to science teacher and communicator Reggie Finley about the importance of science and critical thinking especially in this time of the pandemic. Reggie also discusses his personal journey from angry atheist and host of The Infidel Guy Show to a science educator reaching out and changing the lives of his students.
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1:06 Science Education
7:54 The Infidel Guy Show
13:41 Critical Thinking
22:44 Amazinglife.bio
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In this episode Douglas gives an update on upcoming activities of the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie. Next he gives his thoughts about social justice, Humanism, and a new book about that very subject from Roy Speckhardt.
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In this episode, we talk to Pam Niese, a Registered Nurse from Glandorf, Ohio, who volunteers with the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network. Pam helps fundraise and lobby on issues important to cancer patients and survivors. We find out that Cancer sucks and is not political or religious in its destruction. She also lets us know what we can do to help including purchasing a "Lights of Hope" bag.
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In this episode, we find out why the next local battle over abortion takes place in an old parking lot. Next Douglas talks about plans for a post pandemic restriction time for our local group and finally he talks about how Humanists can respond to a recent religious freedom violation while still rejecting the religious beliefs being violated.
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[01:12] One Battle Over Abortion Is A Parking Lot
[20:46] SHoWLE Plans for in-person meetings
[29:25] Kosher Football
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In this episode, Douglas talks about the large amount of hoaxes, conspiracy theories, and other magical thinking brought on by the response to the pandemic and what Humanists and others can do to get through the cloud of problem thinking.
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Richard Dawkins is a well known figure in the freethought community. His books have been best sellers and have helped lead many people to ditch religion. In recent years, Dawkins has not been a decent human being and on April 10th a transphobic tweet reminded us all we need to stop putting science communicators on a pedestal. The support Dawkins received for "Just Asking Questions" reminds us what Humanism really means as we reject his questioning of the basic dignity and worth of a group of people for no rational reason.
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In this episode Douglas goes through the process his Humanist group took to create a new tag line to help market the group to the public. When some groups are dropping the word Humanism from their name SHoWLE rejected that direction. Then Douglas talks about the new election laws being passed as a result of the massive turn out in the 2020 election and how these laws aren't reform but just Jim Crow laws in another form.
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Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences. Cancel culture is just the complaints about Political Correctness dressed in different clothes. Douglas gives a primer about what the 1st amendment really means and it doesn't cover using bigotry disguised as jokes on social media. Finally, we look at the need for transparency as the American Humanist Association looks for a new executive director.
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00:47 Cancel Culture Is A Hoax
23:40 Looking for the new AHA Executive Director
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Did you know you don't really need to spend years going to medical school to become a doctor in order to affect the health of people? All you need is to be elected to the state legislator. In this episode, Douglas will talk about the Ohio Legislature's arrogant push to override the public health orders made my Governor DeWine during our current pandemic. Finally, he will talk about a good proposed law that will protect women trying to obtain an abortion in Toledo.
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00:55 Arrogance Will Hurt People
14:36 Toledo Patient Protection Ordinance
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In this episode, Doug talks about the attempted coup that happen in Washington DC on January 6th and how that was balanced by the swearing in of a new President. What will this mean for secular people. Doug also gives an update on a Federal lawsuit by three Lucas county religious schools to subvert a public health order and finally Doug mentions a couple of articles he's read that deal with the mental health issues of schools being closed and how Ohio made headlines as an Anti-vaccine state.
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01:10 Insurrection And Democracy
12:31 Subverting Public Health Orders Using The 1st Amendment
29:12 Mental Health And Ohio's Notoriety As Anti-Vaccine
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In this episode Douglas talks about the passage of House Resolution 512 that calls for the global repeal of blasphemy, heresy, and apostasy laws. Next he talks about two cases of schools trying to use religion to circumvent public health orders and finally in a new segment called Humanism 101 he looks at Global Awarness.
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00:45 Blasphemy Be Gone
08:34 Covid Cheats at School
17:56 Humanism 101: Global Awareness
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In this episode Douglas talks to artist and Humanist Martha Knox about her woodcut print art, her performance art called "Submit", the state of the art community during the pandemic, and why selling her art is not her goal. Martha, who had been very active in various freethought organizations including helping found the Secular Student Alliance 20 years ago, explains why disillusionment made her step back. But she still considers herself a secular Humanist.
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01:00 The artist and her art
11:21 Submit and why selling art is not her goal
26:00 Freethought groups and disillusionment
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In this episode, Douglas chats with August Brunsman, one of the founders and first paid executive director of the Secular Student Alliance which is celebrating its 20th anniversary. We talk about the heady days at the beginning of the group, the problems that come along with a college project like SSA, and his continuing work with Camp Quest - An educational adventure shaped by fun, friends and freethought.
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00:42 Founding the Secular Student Alliance
06:18 Like Organizing a Bus Stop
09:09 We Love Young People Now Sit Down and Shut Up
18:31 Camp Quest
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In this episode Douglas looks at Christian nationalists using Religious freedom as cover for their discrimination, why the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett for the US Supreme Court is a problem for all of us, and he introduces a new recurring segment where people share the story of their journey to Humanism.
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00:40 How To Use Religious Freedom for Bigotry
11:17 The Case Against Amy Coney Barrett
22:54 Journeys to Humanism
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In this episode, Douglas tries to find out what has happened to our empathy during the pandemic. He offers some tips on how to have a picnic during a virus outbreak. And finally Douglas reviews an essay from July that claims anti-racism training is racist.
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00:37 Where did our empathy go?
08:51 Our Pandemic Picnic
12:20 Is Talking About Anti-Racism Racist?
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In this episode Douglas talks to Sam McGuire, the National Field Director for American Atheists. She explains what an affiliate is and how your secular group can become one. Douglas asks if atheist groups are that much different than Humanist groups and he and Sam dip their toes into some political questions of interest to secular people.
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00:41 Affiliates & Conferences
12:40 The Reason Rally
14:47 Atheist Groups vs Humanist Groups
20:30 Politics/Blitz Watch
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In this episode, Douglas talks about the lack of heroes in the atheist movement and why that isn't a problem. Next he highlights an excellent TV program that explained why we teach US History all wrong, and finally Douglas revisits an essay he wrote about the 1st amendment violation having the Ohio state motto engraved on the grounds of the statehouse.
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02:45 An Atheist Hero Is A Social Justice Warrior
15:39 The Whitewashing of US History
23:25 The Case Against The Ohio Motto
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In this episode, Douglas tries to fill time without interviewing someone. We get some news from our group the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie, give a humanist response to the murder of George Floyd, celebrate an unlikely court victory for the LGBTQ+ community, and dust off an old blog post about the words "Under God" in the pledge.
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**00:48 SHoWLE News
05:28 A Humanist Response to the Murder of George Floyd
13:25 LGBTQ+ Court Victory
17:28 "McCarthyism" gave us "Under God" in the Pledge**
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In this episode Douglas speaks with Derrick Strobl, an old friend from his days in Columbus with the Humanist Community of Central Ohio. They talk about his journey to Humanism coming from a religious conservative family, and Douglas discovers, to his shock that a college near his hometown was much more conservative than he ever imagined. Derrick also reveals what Humanist values are important to him and what Humanist books he recommends.
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In this episode Douglas talks to Rev. Dr. TK Barger of the First Unitarian Church of Toledo about the historic ties between the UUs and Humanism. We also discuss how Unitarians have religious rituals that are not based in the supernatural and we talk about some of the differences between religious and secular humanism.
Rev. Dr. TK Barger has been the called minister for First UU of Toledo since 2017 and is a founding Board member of our sponsor the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie. TK got his start in Journalism and after 9/11 decided to be of more service by becoming a minister. He also worked as the Religion Editor at the Toledo Blade for several years before being called to serve full time at First UU of Toledo.
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In this longer than usual episode Douglas talks with Nick Little, Vice President and General Counsel of the Center for Inquiry, about his group's effort to force big retailers to be honest about homeopathy products they sell. We discuss the group's current work to allow secular celebrants to solemnize marriages in all the states. Finally we look at the current status of church and state litigation in the time of Trump. It isn't good.
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In this episode we talk to Charles Hill, a facilitator for the Columbus Ohio chapter of Recovering from Religion. We talk about how some religious believers, even professional clergy, make the transition to being a non-believer, how important telling your story is to the process, and the start of efforts to form a Toledo chapter of the group.
People transition to non-belief in multiple ways. Many don't want to lie about their beliefs for the sake of living a "normal" life so they need help in their struggle to transition to being a non-believer. It's as much of struggle as quitting smoking or trying to lose hundreds of pounds all the while being a pariah in your family.
This is where Recovering from Religion and The Clergy Project come in.
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In today's episode, we will talk to Emily Newman, Education Coordinator for the AHA's Center for Education. We will discuss the HERE for Climate project and how climate change will be the theme for this year's Secular Week of Action that takes place May 1st through the 10th and coincides with the National Day of Reason.
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School vouchers have been an end around the separation of church and state for decades. They allow a state to indirectly fund private schools and most of those private schools are operated by religious groups. Political conservatives also use vouchers to choke the funding of public schools with the goal for there to be no government-run common schools.
Ohio has recently had a Confluence of these two viewpoints as the conservative dominated legislature was set to expand a school voucher program using a flawed performance model that private schools don't even have to abide by. The proposed expansion also drew a large coalition of districts into the fight because it would start hitting previously untouched and thought to be good Suburban schools.
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In this episode we talk to secular activist Monette Richards. She is vice president of Secular Woman and former president of CFI NE Ohio. We talk about her journey to becoming an activist, the real scourge of leadership burn out, and if there is any hope for organized secular groups to effect real change as it seems our world is burning down around us. Our talk was a good time, really.
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In the debut episode of Glass City Humanist, host Douglas Berger gives a brief manifesto of what the podcast will be about. Next he talks to Matt McMahon, one of the organizers of Toledo Skeptics. We discuss the format of the group, what is and isn't skepticism, and we touch on some troubling issues in the general skeptic community hurtful ideas about the transgender community and some incidents of inappropriate conduct with women by high profile skeptics.
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Hi, my name is Doug Berger and I am the host of the Glass City Humanist podcast coming soon to a platform near you.
So just what is the Glass City Humanist?
I'll be talking about how I live a Humanist life, local news and issues of interest to Humanists and other freethinkers, and interview other Humanists or secular people in Northwest Ohio and elsewhere about how they live a secular Humanist life.
If you consider yourself a Humanist or want to find out more about Humanism and our values, then this podcast will be your one stop shop. It will be an experience for all ages. I hope you'll join me.
Glass City Humanist is sponsored in part by the Secular Humanists of Western Lake Erie. They can be found at humanistswle.org
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