Yale Brothers Podcast: Recent Episodes
Roger Yale, Chris Yale
Identical twins and performing songwriters The Yale Brothers came of age in Hollywood in the glory days of the late 1970s and early 1980s. This show tells the tales of their experiences, the people they met and the enduring friends they made in that magical time. Now living in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, this podcast is not all about looking back. It’s about life. And music.
Andrew Zimmern is likely best known to the general public for his Travel Channel shows “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern” and his Emmy-winning “The Zimmern List” But that’s just scratching the surface. He’s a renowned chef with bestselling books, media companies, shows, retail products, a retail food line and so much more.
On February 13, Zimmern is set to speak at the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College. He’s been sober since 1992 and remains active in the recovery and mental health communities. He serves on the boards of several recovery organizations.
Roger has been covering series founder and organizer Casey King for many years and on various platforms. We also spoke to him on this podcast. The 2025 Addiction and Recovery Lecture series is installment number 18. Unfortunately, this will be the last. Casey’s wrapping things up and will also be retiring next year.
For more information about the series, click HERE.
We were thrilled to have Chef Zimmern on the show:
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale
3:42 - Greetings and about the song
4:12 - Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / 18th and final installment / Casey's longstanding goals for the program
5:16 - More about the series / Louis Gossett, Jr. / Craig T. Nelson / Mackenzie Phillips / Dr. Drew Pinsky / Paul Williams / Art Alexakis / Danny Trejo / Tom Arnold
5:55 - Dr. Kevin McCauley (February 20) / Casey King (February 27) / Andrew Zimmern (February 13)
6:34 - Andrew Zimmern introduction
7:20 - Welcome, Chef / Myrtle Beach / Making television around the world / Thoughts about Myrtle Beach presentation
11:10 - Early life in culinary / Cooking in NYC
13:52 - Years of promise / Europe and Asia trips / Talent and culinary proficiency / Leading a double life
15:39 - More NYC / Anne Rosenzweig and Arcadia / Rakel (Thomas Keller and Serge Raoul) / Cooking in Venice / Grand Cafes / Quality and Speed, 1980s
18:26 - Work all day, party all night / Dangerous places / Addiction trajectory
20:24 - Descent into homelessness
23:18 - Asking for help / Final intervention 1992 / Hazelden
25:37 - Success after recovery / The gift of serenety / "Walking through the work" / Emotional and physical sobriety
32:30 - The steps and service work / Being of service / Life on life's terms
38:47 - Mental health and mental health awareness / C-Cap / Anxiety and Depression in culinary / Talking to others
40:06 - Empathy in the workplace / Co-regulation / Listening
27:26 - Final thoughts / Practicing solutions / Work-in-progress / Call one person / The importance of asking for help
Resources:
Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: Call or text 988
Substance Abuse and Addiction Hotline: 1-844-289-0879
Alcoholics Anonymous: www.aa.org
The twins discuss Chris' recent songwriting efforts, their recent show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach, trips to New York and Aruba, books, an author friend and so much more - and Chris was on a roll with riffing and wordplay. This episode is everything you'd expect, and less.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Song snippet by Chris Yale - "Blackmailed"
1:03 - Greetings and about the snippet. Chris' recent songwriting efforts.
2:38 - Recent show on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Shout out to our friend Amy White for the booking and Erik Davey for sound production / David Gilmour Luck and Strange Tour t-shirts from our Bill Becker / More about Gilmour tour
5:35 - Roger's trip to New York - Brooklyn and Sleepy Hollow / South Slope / Hartley's Irish Pub / Hanging with daughter Taylor and her beau, Seán / All-you-can-eat mussels / Read about the trip on Roger's BLOG.
6:30 - Chris' new wordplay: "BoSeán" / More about NY trip / Our friend Evan Rochon at Daniel Murphy High School Los Angeles / Sacred Heart High School Los Angeles
10:00 - Listening to The Stones' "Some Girls" while stoned in the 1970s. / Weed, social awkwardness and anxiety
11:33 - "Statute of limitations" with parents / Sinning / "God will punish you." / Jesus took the punishment / Parental guilt / "Little Me and Big Me"
14:24 - Lilith / Lillith Fair / Indigo Girls / Sarah McLachlan / Paula Cole Band - "Where Have All the Cowboys Gone?" / Mary Gauthier
16:00 - Chris didn't pick up a South African guy's pictures from Fotomat.
17:17 - More New York Trip / Irvington / Tarrytown / Sleepy Hollow Cemetery / Old Dutch Church / Grand Central at rush hour / Hessians / Subway at rush hour / "Billy on the Street"
20:45 - Chris' trip to Aruba / TAA Show (Tobacconists' Association of America) / Cigar industry
22:32 - "The Purpose Driven Life" by Rick Warren / Mom's handwriting / "Bowie at 75" by Martin Popoff / Meeting Bowie
25:17 - Decluttering / "It's All Too Much: An Easy Plan for Living a Richer Life with Less Stuff" by Peter Walsh
26:12 - Wayne C. Dees, "Altered Perceptions" book and film / Roger's friendship with Dees / Roger's review of the book
28:25 - Chris went for the low-hanging fruit and started in with the "CDs" reference - IYKYK - Stop it, Chris.
30:01 - Chris' production problems with ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Fast-talking / Latency / Clipped like Tyne Daly
31:20 - Parting shots / Concrete Blonde vs. Four Non Blondes / More Lilith / Bebe Neuwirth / Jane Friedman is not Jill Abramson / Vocal fry
The twins return and quickly go down the rabbit hole - talking about everything from songwriting to recording, performing live, taking proper naps, Jesus and the cosmos, decluttering and so much more - including a song recorded eons ago in Hollywood.
SHOW NOTES:
NOTE: This podcast episode is dedicated to the memory of our dear friend, Kathy DiGiacomo. You are irreplaceable and will remain in our hearts always.
0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Recorded at Paramount Recording Studios Hollywood, 1983.
3:47 - Greetings and about the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko aka Nicky Wonder (RIP) / 50th Anniversary Tour - "Pet Sounds" / Beach Boys Fan Club and Brian Wilson tribute to Nick / The Wondermints / Nick's work with Brian Wilson and Beach Boys backup band / Chris' adventures with Nick
8:07 - Chris alone at the house / Early waking / Proper sleep / Quiet time
9:38 - Off-season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / Jobs / Myrtle beach as a TECH HUB
10:52 - Tommy James' open tuning / Irving Berlin's piano with transpose lever / Roger's transpose button / "Tin Pan Alley Twins" - Elton John "Bitter Fingers"
12:15 - Sound system dialed-in at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger's grandson at LuLu's - BLOG POST
14:20 - Roger's song ideas / snippets / Chris' songwriting / "Songwriter" movie with Willie Nelson / "Ishtar"
15:44 - "Down and Out in Paradise: The Life of Anthony Bourdain" by Charles Leerhsen / Asia Argento / "Unrequited Infatuations" by Stevie Van Zandt / More van Zandt / Apartheid / Sun City / South African Relatives
17:35 - Colonialists / Imperialists / Greed
18:19 - Band punctuation/grammar - "is" vs. "are"
18:40 - Roger's decluttering project / The ceasless vacuuming by Roger's upstairs neighbor / Close miking / Hoarding tendencies / Chris wiped his old iMac / Remote storage / Bearded Clam in "Family Guy"
21:55 - On napping / getting things done / Cleanup panic / Paul Rankin's figgy jam / Homemade pasta
23:50 - More about "Mine Again" / Roger Dollarhide / Alto Sax
24:30 - Henry Cutrona / The Hiding Place church in Los Angeles, 1980s / Dad rebuking Satan / "Shout at the Devil" Motley Crue / Christianity and cosmic matters / Carlos Castaneda / Chris: "Jesus is my sensei" / Danse Macabre / "Dance of Death" on the gallows
The twins are back -ruminating about turning 61, discussing recording gear and software, computers and e-bikes. That's just the beginning. There's also their work at a well-known cigar shop in Myrtle Beach, recent concerts, reads, gigs and so much more - including a gem from the musical archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "What Might Have Been" by Chris Yale
3:40 - Greetings / July 4th Fireworks / About the song and Chris' album, "Well Enough Alone"
4:37 - On turning 61
5:09 - Chris' upgrade to Logic Pro 11 / New used iMac (2019) / Old Apogee Duet / Apple Loops
6:20 - "He had to be shown" / AA Big Book / "The Beer Experiment" / "The Milk Experiment"
7:22 - Chris' and Betsy's new KBO e-bikes / Hoop skirts and step-throughs
8:54 - Chris at home without supervision
9:25 - "The Season" is back in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box memories 1970s and 1980s / Roger's first imported cigar - Macanudo Portofino / Chris' first imported cigar - Macanudo Baron de Rothschild / Domestic cigars
12:03 - Cigar snobs / $60 cigar versus a $12 cigar / Diminishing returns / $100 shots / Blowhards / Roger's take on cigar blends and aging
14:05 - "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F" streaming / Hollywood exteriors / "Lucifer" series - Sunset Tower on Sunset Strip
15:06 - The Rolling Stones in Atlanta / Mercedes Benz Stadium / Chuck Leavell / Steve Jordan / Edify yourself / Darryl Jones / Wyman, lately
17:37 - "Stevie Van Zandt: Disciple" documentary / The duster and the bandana / Paul Stanley-ish? / Chris Lord-Alge
19:53 - Cubase / 64-gig memory on Chris' iMac / ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro
21:00 - Roger's writing efforts / Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Georgetown Times / Charles Perry / Roger's work with Grand Strand Magazine
21:39 - Queen sells music for $1.2 billion
22:05 -LuLu's North Myrtle Beach gigs
23:04 - Intracoastal Waterway / Bird Island / Sick Stooges / Brandon Toms / Freedom Boat Club
25:05 - Roger hits 10 years of sobriety / Getting stuff done
24:40 - "Turning Pro" by Steven Pressfield / Lao Tzu versus Sun Tzu / "Atlas Shrugged" and "The Fountainhead" by Ayn Rand / "A Tramp Across the Continent" by Charles Fletcher Lummis
27:03 - Parting shots / Our jobs at Tinder Box / Chris' slow internet / Chris' grandkids
In this episode, The Yale Brothers once again cover the waterfront - from The Grateful Dead to Ian Whitcomb, Gigs in Myrtle Beach to tripping at recording sessions, Roger's newspaper work to walking around Hollywood in the seventies and eighties. It's all that and more, including a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Strange Fascination" by Chris Yale
4:02 - Greetings and about the song /The call of the flesh / Sobriety / Second lineup of their band, Rogue Alley
6:42 - Noel Coward performs "Let's Do It (Let's Fall In Love)" in Las Vegas
7:14 - Myrtle Beach is getting busy again / Spring break / Underage booze and tobacco / Chris mistaken for a street hustler in Glendale, CA, 1985
8:23 - "Rough Trade" by Ian Whitcomb / Tripping balls at a Whitcomb recording session / Ronnie Barron / Dr. John
9:22 - Jerry Garcia spiked the coffee / Joe Smith / Early Dead documentary efforts
10:23 - "Long Strange Trip" docuseries / Workingman's Dead recording process / "Casey Jones" and "Uncle John's Band" / Roger's cover feature about Scott Mann, WAVE 104.1 Myrtle Beach / More about Scott Mann / More Dead
12:35 - The outdated P.A. / Roger's solo gig at Dirty Myrtle Wing Company - Bike Night rained out
16:43 - Upcoming Yale Brothers gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
17:03 - Roger's latest story for The Post and Courier Myrtle Beach appeared in The Post and Courier Charleston / History of The Post and Courier
17:58 - More about Dirty Myrtle Wing Company
19:24 - Chris without adult supervision
20:06 - Chris' guitar string issues resolved on his PRS guitar / Dave Matthews / South African heritage / "Desiderata"
22:29 - Main Character Syndrome / Solipsism / Living in a movie
23:30 - Friend Daniel Alexander's gigs at Miceli's Hollywood / North Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood / Drinking at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / The Gold Cup Hollywood / Jackson Browne and Daryl Hannah / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenge Boulevard
26:33 - Stopping at Del Taco in San Bernardino / Dick Naugle / Naugle's
27:11 - Walking around Hollywood between La Brea Avenue and Highland Avenue - Franklin Avenue to Sunset Blvd / Driving the freeways / Close calls and dropping a bike
29:36 - "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Pity the Reader: On Writing With Style" by Kurt Vonnegut and Suzanne McConnell
31:28 - Aerosmith show reseheduled for October / Steven Tyler larynx / Rolling Stones in June
32:12 - Benzedrine inhaler
32:34 - Chris' new studio monitors - Kali Audio LP6 Version 2 / Dip switch
34:55 - Parting shots / Chris' beard / Pizza for days / Iran strikes Israel / End times sandwich board / Argent
From recording in an iconic L.A. studio back in the day to upcoming gigs in Myrtle Beach - from books, music and a wonderful streaming series to shooting the Rogue Alley video (also back in the day) - from food to Bob Dylan and Bebe Neuwirth - the twins wonder how they manage to keep it all together. Also: Another musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "End of the Line" by Chris Yale - 1984
3:29 - Greetings - Happy St. Patrick's Day / About the song / Paramount Recording Studios / Roger Dollarhide / Kepex noise gate
4:59 - More Dollarhide / Motown / Gwen Gordy / Recording at Paramount / Bobby Womack / Blow / Mary Wells or Mary Wilson / Billy Preston / Korg Poly-61 / Bill Withers' DAT machine
7:08 - Dee's Nuts brand
7:49 - Bad lamb / More bone than meat / New York Prime / Ruth's Chris / Capriccio Myrtle Beach / Filet Marsala / Guy Smith
11:00 - Shari Lewis odering lamb chops / "Lamb Chop's Play Along " Roger's twins
11:58 - Stan Hutchinson - RIP
12:24 - Upcoming Bob Dylan show / No phones allowed / Yondr Bag
14:28 - Previous Dylan shows / G.E. Smith / Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach
15:00 - Chris still sounds like Bebe Neuwirth or Antoni Porowski
15:24 - Lilith / Mary Magdalene / Tom Petty and Bob Dylan at Pacific Amphitheatre in Costa Mesa - Roger thought it was Irvine Meadows
16:02 - Billy Squier at Irvine Meadows / "Rock Me Tonite" video / Dave Slusher
17:16 - "City of Pain" video - Rogue Alley / Dancer auditions / FM Station / Fontana / Kaiser Steel Mill / Terminator 2: Judgment Day
18:42 - High in the sky / Pie-eyed in the sky
20:27 - Upcoming shows at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Piano elbow progress report / Left-handed practice / Backing tracks / 2 Live Crew / University of Miami glory days
22:18 - "The Chosen" series / Way cooler Jesus / "Jesus Revolution" / Noel Coward as Jesus? / Roger's Noel Coward project / Crowdfunding "The Chosen"
26:55 - Crown Theatre Fayetteville, N.C. / Crown Complex
27:45 - Oliver Sacks, "Hallucinations" / Little Free Library / "Awakenings" / Leonardo Da Vinci biography by Walter Isaacson / "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Taking notes on Kindle / Chat GPT
32:16 - Ron Miller / Motown / "I've Never Been to Me" - Charlene / "For Once In My Life" - Stevie Wonder
33:17 - Parting shots / More hallucinations / Crows / Squirrels / Language / Jezebel / "My Life In the Bush of Ghosts" - Brian Eno and David Byrne
Is 60 the new 40? Is Chris too old to look like Jesus? Remember the patch on Julia Child's blouse?
Of course, the twins go down rabbit holes in this eipsode - and it's probably Roger's fault. From rock video shoots to Bible difficulties, Pete Townshend to L.A. Guns, Depeche Mode to W.A.S.P, the banter continues into books, pipes and tobacco, streaming television and more - including a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Salieri" by Chris Yale
4:07 - Greetings and about the song / "Amadeus" / "Rock Spock" aka Peder Rudling / GarageBand / Logic Pro
6:26 - Myrtle Beach versus Carolina Forest / Bible Difficulties / "Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties" by Gleason Archer / God and John Cena: "You Can't See Me"
7;48 - Old Testament rules and regulations / New Testament / Opposition to Jesus by "religious" people / Man-made religion / Truth to power
9:02 - "The Chosen" series / "Julia" series / Julia Child / "Hazel" Shirley Booth / It's not Alice Brady, dumbass / Julia's "L'Ecole des Trois Gourmandes" patch
10:12 - Pete Townshend album, "Scoop"
10:52 - Is 60 the new 40? / Blood pressure / Drinking
12:42 - Roger's solo gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen & Heath ZED-12FX
14:04 - "Rehab is for quitters" and "meetings are for alcoholics" / Songwriting challenge / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 for multitracking and as an audio interface
15:57 - Chris' encounter with Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode at Spotlight Tattoo in Hollywood
17:10 - Chris is too old to look like Jesus / Other biblical figures / Walt Whitman / "Song of Myself" / "I Sing the Body Electric" / "Fame" movie
18:21 - L.A. Guns / Kelly Nickels / Sass Jordan video shoot - "Make You a Believer" / John Corabi / Jim Alden
20:00 - Chris Holmes / W.A.S.P. / "Mean Man" / "The Decline of Western Civilization" / Control freaks / More about W.A.S.P / Blackie Lawless / Rogue Alley - attempts to get signed / Tromping around the Sunset Strip / "Sunset Strip" documentary
26:52 - "The Coddling of the American Mind" / Safetyism
26:52 - Chris' pipe collection / Mississippi River barrel-aged pipe tobacco / "Ready Rubbed" / Edgeworth Ready Rubbed
28:22 - Staggering growth in Myrtle Beach
28:39 - More about "Julia" and "The Chosen" / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1966-2016" by Kenneth Womack / "Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey / Bebe Neuwirth / Jill Abramson / Vocal fry / Fry Baby / Cry Baby / Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb
31:26 - Roger's "piano elbow" / Little strap-on / Chris' shoulder / Stretching / Old man noises
33:36 - Parting shots / Cidny Bullens in Lefsetz Letter / "TransElectric: My Life as a Cosmic Rock Star"
The twins return with a full dance card, covering the waterfront with magic, clowns, music gear and more, including Roger's magazine feature, an awesome Grammys moment, books and Chris' loop experiment.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Chris' "Latin Space Vibe" in Apple Loops/Logic Pro
1:14 - Greetings and about the loop
2:28 - Lefsetz delay / Latency / Roger's interface issues / Humblebrag Insult / Roger's breakfast / Scott Mann, "Really good bread"
4:30 - Luke Combs and Tracy Chapman at Grammys / "Fast Car" / Daniel Sims / Chapman at Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum / Human Rights Now! 1988
6:58 - Mike Heidtman aka Seaside Showman aka Captain Mike / Magic Castle / Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Clown College Alumni Cruise
7:35 - Self-serving / Self-service / Appetites
8:26 - Magicians Chris knew from the Magic Castle and the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Peter DePaula / Hank Morehouse / Terry Seabrooke / Billy McComb / Lance Burton / Reveen the Impossibilist / Abb Dickson / Maxwell Grant aka Walter B. Gibson / The Shadow / Robert Harbin / Mark Wilson Course in Magic / Yutaka Kikuchi / Fickle Fire / Shimada
11:51 - Roger's ventriloquist dummy / Magic and ventriloquist shows as kids
12:34 - Slow season in Myrtle Beach / Growth in Myrtle Beach / "New" New York / Carolina Forest versus old Myrtle Beach
14:04 - Roger's feature article in Grand Strand Magazine / Casey King / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Dangling participles and feminine articles
16:02 - "Scattershot" by Bernie Taupin / "These Dreams" / "We Built This City" / Grace Slick / "Welcome to the Wrecking Ball" / Mickey Thomas / Irwindale / First-time song memories
19:39 - On being grandparents
21:00 - Chris' studio improvements / California Blonde SWR / Davey Johnstone / Fender Tone Master Princeton
24:19 - "Piano elbow" / Left-hand octave boogie bass
26:05 - George Martin / "Sound Pictures: The Life of Beatles Producer George Martin, The Later Years, 1066-2016 / Keenan Wallace Dunham / Keenan's screenplay, "Rain Falls on Everyone" / "The Crown" / Princess Diana / King Charles and the state of the monarchy / "The Chosen"
27:55 - "George Carlin's American Dream" / "Time Has Come Today" by Harold Bronson / Rhino Records
28:52 - Carlin on pro-life conservatives
30:17 - Parting shots / Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / MXR EQ pedal / Old dude sayings / Trump visit to Myrtle Beach Area / Chris' Spanish lessons
The twins were freezing their asses off in Myrtle Beach. That's not right. They return with a trip down the usual rabbit holes - their lives at the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood, shady characters, tweakers, rockers and celebrities and much more - including books, Myrtle Beach, music and a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Only a Fool" By Chris Yale / Performed by Rogue Alley
4:25 - Greetings / Roger's missing gig bag / About the song / KISS
6:43 - Freezing in "Sunny" Myrtle Beach / Roger's "Don't Be a Dick" hat / Step away from the acid flashbacks / Around the world and back into your head / Seeing sounds
9:17 - Tom Arnold on Episode 83 / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Planet Hollywood Myrtle Beach / Hollywood Wax Museum / Madame Tussaud / Madame Blavatsky / Theosophy / Joe Maher
12:32 - Exteriors of Hollywood / The memory versus the place / "Cosmic AI"
14:02 - Golden Harmony Singers / LACC / Wes Abbott / Chris' cinema classes / Dr. Richards / Dr. Tom Stempel / Frau Dr. Ulrich / Chris' documentary / Luis Buñuel (not Jacques)
16:03 - Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Dad's hotel management style / Reservation nightmares / Working while 'shrooming
18:41 - Tweakers at the Magic Hotel / Shady characters / "Dusty Williams" / Hank Williams Jr. / Les McKeown / Old pillhead couple / More tweakers / Black Randy and the Metrosquad
21:29 - Rapid-fire name-dropping - like Speed Dating / Richard Herd / Stuart Damon / Ann B. Davis / Robert Morse / Daniel Stern / "Breaking Away" / Drunk Rock Hudson / "On the 20th Century" / Yul Brynner / Joe Maher / Chevy Chase / Kim Stanley / "The Right Stuff" / Noel Coward's "Red Peppers" / Tom Behringer / Frank Infante / Deborah Harry / Blondie / Peter Gallagher / "The Idolmaker" / Les McKeown / Bay City Rollers / Quentin Crisp / "The Naked Civil Servant" / John Hurt / Westwood Playhouse / Jeff Daniels
29:10 - The need for exercise / Cleanse / "Colon Blow" SNL / "Bootie bump" / Straight Edge
31:32 - Chris' belly dancer crush
33:21 - Slow time in Myrtle Beach / Bernie Taupin book, "Scattershot" / Bruce Springsteen autobiography, "Born to Run" / R.C. Sproul, "The Holiness of God" / George Martin biography, "Sound Pictures" / Bag of books / "Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey / Ed Mylett / Rainn Wilson, "Soul Boom" / Baha'i / I be high / "Baha'isexual"
36:11 - Upcoming gig at Lulu's North Myrtle Beach / Chris' new hard-sided gig case
36:52 - Help our friend Adam Holt if you can. His GoFudMe campaign is HERE.
38:36 - Parting shots
On January 25, actor, writer and comedian Tom Arnold kicks of the 17th installment of the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College in Conway, South Carolina - just up the road from Myrtle Beach.
The series will run on consecutive Thursdays through February 15,
If you are a certain age like we are, you’ll remember Tom from his work on the long-running ABC sitcom Roseanne – or that he was once married to the show’s star, Roseanne Barr. And who can forget him opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger in True Lies – or the hilarious restroom scene in Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery.
But he cut his teeth on standup, which he still performs, and has appeared in scores of films and television shows over more than three decades. He’s also a single parent of a son and daughter.
Tom is also in recovery – and has been very open about his experience with addiction, relapse, child sexual abuse and a series of health scares over the years. But he’s arguably in the best shape of his life now.
In 2008, HGTC physics professor Casey King founded and launched Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series – a popular event that has included a growing “Who’s Who” of featured celebrity speakers – from actors to rock stars to medical professionals and many more.
The series also features presentations and panels including college students, recovery advocates and spokespersons from local recovery groups, rounding out an event that shines as a beacon of hope for those still struggling with addiction and a lamp on the path of those on their recovery journeys.
A big thank you to Casey for putting us in touch with Tom.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Rise Above It" By Chris Yale
4:49 - Greetings and about the song
5:44 - About the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series at Horry-Georgetown Technical College
6:29 - About Tom Arnold
7:43 - Welcome, Tom / Myrtle Beach / Planet Hollywood Myrtle Beach / Casey King
8:50 - Tom's plans for Myrtle Beach presentation / Keeping track of time / Gig at Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel / Improv Hollywood gig / Watching other comics / Recovery comedy
11:12 - Tom in FUBAR as Norm Carlson / True Lies / Bone marrow story / University of Iowa / Sperm donation letdown / The corkscrew
17:05 - Moving to L.A. in 1988 / Minneapolis Comedy Competition / Comedy clubs in Minneapolis / Everclear Punch / Comedy Cabaret and other gigs / Meeting Roseanne Barr in Minneapolis in 1983 / Williams Pub
19:37 - More about early relationship with Roseanne / Roseanne HBO Special 1987 / Writing, acting and producing on Roseanne
20:55 - Magic Castle Hollywood / Tom's first apartment in Van Nuys / Living in Los Angeles
22:45 - Burning the boats / Tom's Hollywood experience / All-in on the dream / Ottumwa, Iowa
24:21 - Tom's quick career trajectory
24:38 - Setting up addiction issues long before Hollywood / "Queen of Meth" - Tom's sister, Lori Arnold / Underage drinking / Drinking versus drugs / Stoners versus rednecks / Fights
27:06 - First cocaine use in Minneapolis / Rock venue First Avenue / Purple Rain / Escalating coke use
27:47 - Blow in Hollywood / Roseanne cautions Tom / More about Lori Arnold / "I want everything" / The meth business
30:57 - Roseanne instrumental in getting Tom into proper rehab / Hiding addiction / Benedict Canyon / Moment of clarity / Public perception and the gossip mill / Learning to love yourself / Marrying Roseanne
35:30 - 19 years of sobriety / 2008 motorcycle accident and pain medication / sobriety reset
37:10 - The value of 12-Step Meetings / Recovery community in Hollywood
39:25 - "In recovery" versus "recovered"
40:27 - Tom's fitness journey / Mini-stroke in 2022 / Stroke protocal UCLA Medical Center / Weight loss coach Charles D'Angelo / True Lies weight / Losing 80 pounds / Night eating
47:35 - Benzos and third stint in rehab / Chris Cornell / Matthew Perry
50:47 - Future plans for Tom Arnold / Thoughts on upcoming 65th birthday / Single parenthood and life with his son and daughter / Living in the moment
52:57 - Tom, Arnold - Arnold, Tom
53:28 - Parting shots
Adam Holt's life would never be the same after, at nine years old, he saw Aerosmith's Joe Perry play a Silver Sparkle Gretsch Duo Jet on cable TV.
Flash forward: Adam is a musical renaissance man - a performing songwriter focusing on contemporary Southern rock and blues. He lives near Gulf Shores, Alabama and has been a staple of the live music scene in the region for well over two decades. He's got three albums under his belt along with freestanding singles and other recording projects - and operates his own analog (two-inch tape) recording studio.
The twins enjoy a conversation with Adam about all of this and much more, including two original tracks - one of which has garnered more than a million streams on Spotify.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "The End" by Adam Holt - from the album, Kind of Blues
4:23 - Greetings and about the song / About Adam Holt
6:16 - Welcome, Adam / Admiring his studio on Zoom / Road trip to Memphis / Adam visits The Crossroads in Clarksdale, Miss. / B.B. King Museuum / Robert Johnson gravesite / Muddy Waters birthsite
7:51 - Spin Doctors in Tunica, Miss. / Gold Strike Casino Resort
8:22 - Joe Perry's influence on nine-year-old Adam / Aerosmith "Dude Looks Like a Lady" / Gretsch Duo Jet Silver Sparkle
9:00 - More about "The End" / Recording studio locations and history / Live recording versus multitracking / Recording Kind of Blues / Players on "The End" - Greg DeLuca, bass / Pierre Robinson, drums / Donnie Sundall, Hammond B-3
10:49 - Adam Holt on Spotify / Other projects / Recording at Sun Studio in Memphis / Curry Webber / More about Sun Studio Experience
13:37 - "The End" racked up 1.3 million streams on Spotify so far / Dutch magazine cover feature / Streaming and compensation / Concert ticket pricing / Touring and merch
17:02 - Early music experiences, instruments and education / First guitar at 14: Yamaha electric
18:18 - Goals for next album
18:37 - Highlights from more than two decades in music / Bayfest / Lynyrd Skynrd / Drivin and Cryin
19:43 - 20 years as a performer at Lucy Buffett's LuLu's
21:34 - Booking talent at LuLu's
22:40 - Producing other artists / More about Adam's recording studio / 1964 Gibson Hummingbird / 3M M79 two-inch Tape Machine / Producing Richard Douglas Jensen
29:46 - GAS - Gear Acquisition Syndrome / Gibson SJ 200 / Picker's Paradise / Gigs at Hard Rock Casino, Biloxi / Slot wins / Cash is king
33:30 - Family life / The Dad club
34:43 - Co-writing "Don't Give Up on Me Baby" with wife Jillian.
36:05 - Get your copy of Kind of Blues on limited run 180-gram blue vinyl by visiting www.adamholtmusic.com
39:03 - "Don't Give Up on Me Baby" by Adam Holt (Songwriters: Adam W. Holt / Jillian J. Holt)
The twins discuss Charlotte, N.C., where they both lived at different times. And as usually happens, they also travel down a primrose path - lighting on topics such as Noel Coward, their acting careers that never happened, chihuahuas, parrots, current reads, perceived reality and more, including a gem from the music archive. (Photo by Brendan Wright Images)
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Matter of Time" by Chris Yale
02:24 - Greetings / "Walk" by Pantera / Dimebag Darrell / Machismo in music
04:08 - Chris' chihuahua, Django / Reese's African grey parrot / "I'll cut your ass" / Chris watching Cocaine, a cockatoo / Preludin / Coke Escovido at The Magic Hotel Hollywood / Sheila E. / Quentin Crisp at The Magic Hotel
08:39 - Spiritual beings having a human experience / Pierre Teilhard de Chardin / reality? / God's dream / Discernment
09:46 - Roger spouts Noel Coward / "The Coward in Me" / Mark Mulkeen
11:27 - Living in Charlotte, N.C. aka "The Queen City" / Matthews, N.C. / Recollections / Partying in Charlotte / Chris meets wife Betsy at Howie's Uptown / Uptown Charlotte / Roger's Tinder Box experience / Eastland Mall / Carolina Place Mall / SouthPark Mall was not fancy back in the day
16:06 - Kerry Collins and the nascent Carolina Panthers / Charlotte layout and roads / Sharon this, Sharon that - Quail this, quail that / Blockbuster Pavilion (now PNC Music Pavilion)
17:00 - Roger playing piano at the bygone Rheinland Haus / Shuttered music venue Double Door Inn / George Mandrapilias
18:42 - Odd encounters in Charlotte / The house party /MDA vs. MDMA
21:38 - We could have been actors, but we wound up here / Ann Wright Agency / Crispin Glover / ABC pilot - The Best of Times / Nicolas Coppola (now Cage) / George Schlatter / Don Mischer
23:32 - Chris' animal babysitting duties
23:51 - Roger's solo gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen & Heath Mixer / Roger's current writing work for Post and Courier Myrtle Beach and collaboration with Paul Grimshaw for Grand Strand Magazine
25:16 - Catastrophizing / Kiss "Plaster Caster"
25:49 - Springsteen book, Born to Run / Julia Cameron, The Artist's Way / Brian Tracy, Maximum Achievement / The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul / October Sky film with Jake Gyllenhaal
28:11 - Carmine Ragusa (Eddie Mekka) - "The Big Ragoo" / Preambles / About Chris' song, "Matter of Time"
29:45 - Parting shots / Reality? / Freedom / The cage door is unlocked / Indoctrination
The twins are thrilled to share digitized audio from a bygone South African radio show called "The Castle Beer Show," written by their father (Carl Yale) and starring Carl and Roger Yale - the original Yale Brothers.
And down the rabbit hole they go, discussing growing up in Hollywood in the 1970s, recent gigs, musical gear then and now and much more - including road trips, friends, concerts, postponed tours, books and music. They suck at fencing and tap dancing.
SHOW NOTES
0:00 - Audio excerpt: "The Castle Beer Show" with Carl and Roger Yale (the original Yale Brothers) / South Africa
4:00 - Greetings and more about "The Castle Beer Show" / Digitizing / LegacyBox
6:25 - Dad and Uncle Roger wanted us to follow in their footsteps, but we wanted to be rock statrs / Pearl drum set / KORG Poly Ensemble P (Univox) / Electric Mistress Flanger / Nadine's Music / Realistic P.A. system (RadioShack)
9:07 - First carvin P.A. / Current Carvin P.A. / Electro-Voice Evolve 50M and 30M / Zoom LiveTrak L-8
10:18 - Fencing lessons at Falcon Studios Hollywood / Ralph Faulkner / Nick Evangelista / Coach Terry Matthews, Daniel Murphy High School / Tap lessons with Al Maines / The lost tap mat
12:24 - Growing up in Hollywood / Copper Penny / Toff's Coffee Shop / Steven Boyd / Jim Brown
14:04 - Roger's teeth
15:36 - More about digitizing project
17:35 - "Celebrate" by Three Dog Night (Is this rock?)
18:34 - New mixer at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Allen and Heath ZED-12FX / Old Bull and Bush Pub Myrtle Beach
19:43 - Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie in Raleigh, N.C. - Freaks on Parade Tour / Is Zombie a nerd? / Crying at shows / "A Chorus Line" / Chris' times in the orchestra pit
22:24 - Steven Tyler's vocal issues / Peace Out Tour postponed
22:40 - Side trip to Durham, N.C. to visit the Duncans / Charles, Dot and Robbie / Durham Bulls Athletic Park / Duke University
24:38 - Chris' new amp: Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb / PRS SEHollowbody II Piezo (Chris kept talking while Rog went to the bathroom)
27:27 - Riffing on Krista Tippett / Kerry Washington
28:36 - "All the Way" with Bryan Cranston / "The Whale" with Brandon Frasier
29:10 - "Born to Run" Springsteen autobiography / "Deliver Me from Nowhere" by Warren Zanes / Springsteen "Nebraska" album / Tascam Portastudio 144 / Susan Orlean's "The Library Book" / "The Power of One More" by Ed Mylett
30:54 - Parting shots
31:43 - More "Castle Beer Show"
In this episode, the twins welcome singer/songwriter Kristi Jacques. During the pandemic, Kristi picked up the guitar again after 25 years and began writing and recording. She now has two albums and several freestanding singles under her belt, and she's just getting started.
In 2009, Kristi was diagnosed with pulmonary sarcoidosis, an autoimmune disease that affects many organs and usually goes away on its own, but not in her case.
Join us for a candid conversation with Kristi about all of the above, plus her creative process and collaborations, gear, guitars and three songs from her catalog.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Working On A Dream" by Kristi Jacques
3:07 - Greetings and about Kristi
5:18 - Here's Kristi / About "Working On A Dream"
6:40 - Music production / Tavis Stanley / Art of Dying / Internet-era production / Todd Kerns
7:50 - Growing up in Charleston, S.C. / Music / Spoleto Festival / Fox Music House / Charleston Free Times newspaper
10:15 - Arrival in Myrtle Beach
11:02 - The Diabetes Wellness Council / "Eartha Gets Well"
12:38 - The pandemic / Nutrition degree / Picking up the guitar again / YouTube rabbit hole / Myles Kennedy insired Kristi to get back into music
13:55 - Relearning guitar from Tesla's Dave Rude / Musicianship versus songwriting
14:41 - Project timeline / Songwriting / College of Charleston / Writing lyrics / Elise Testone
16:05 - Songwriting process / Mission Control Studios / Working remotely with Tavis Stanley
16:56 - "Better Late Than Never" by Kristi Jacques / Recording in Nashville / Off the Row Recording Studio
18:30 - Details about new single, "Breaking Down The Walls"
19:01 - "Breaking Down The Walls" by Kristi Jacques
22:08 - Geeking out on gear / Home studio rundown / MacBook Pro / Scarlett Audio Interface / Pro Tools learning curve / "Guitar problem" and Gear Acquisition Syndrome (GAS) / PRS Myles Kennedy signature guitar / Gibson Garage / Epiphone Nancy Wilson Fanatic Nighthawk / Sweetwater Sound
26:21 - The albums: Working On A Dream & Mosaic / freestanding singles / Various styles
27:35 - Pulmonary sarcoidosis diagnosis, 2009 / About the disease / Coping / Recalling Alter Bridge and Sevendust show at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Trip to Richmond for Sevendust show
31:10 - Pulmonary rehab at Conway Medical Center / Preparing for double lung transplant / Waiting list
33:00 - Parting shots
33:51 - About "Shadows Fall"
35:20 - "Shadows Fall" by Kristi Jacques
This episode is dedicated to the memory of a dear friend and incredible musician, Tom Hanlon.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Is That What it Is" by Roger Yale.
4:14 - Greetings and about the song, recorded circa 1988 at Ian Talcroft's Stare Cat Sound, Glendale, CA / Band name at the time was Reflector.
5:02 - Chris discussess the incident that led to the song.
6:21 - Recording with pants on / Jeffrey Toobin / News anchors and U.S. Marines official portraits
7:15 - "Crayon Eaters" / "Grunts" / Roger's grandon eating a crayon - like father, like son
7:38 - RIP Tom Hanlon - friend and musician / Memories of a long friendship / Paul Grimshaw / Paul Grimshaw Band / 1967 Star Sitar / Darien Sahanaja
10:48 - Tony Bennett / Chris' encounter with Tony Bennett at Peggy Lee's House / Mark Mulkeen / The "Clampett Estate" in Bel Air / "Peggy Lee" Rose / The hot tub incident
14:11 - Back-to-back gigs / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Old Bull and Bush Pub / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
15:46 - Chris sounds like Bebe Neuwirth or Antoni Porowski / "Queer Eye" / Imagining Chris on a "Queer Eye" makeover / Tan France / Jonathan Van Ness
17:27 - Chris' newest guitar - PRS SE Hollowbody II / Piezo and Humbucker pickups / Sweetwater Sound / Chris' anxiety about returning instruments
20:23 - Dumb celebrity songs
21:34 - Roger's upcoming shows on The Deck at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Live painting event with folk artist Ken Pease / Chris mentions Harold Finster
23:17 - "The Power of One More" by Ed Mylett /"Deliver Me from Nowhere: The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska" by Warren Zanes
25:32 - Judgemtal bastards / Art versus schlock
25:19 - Chris opened for David Allan Coe / Gene Simmons sitting alone in a mall in Myrtle Beach / Chris met Paul Stanley in a boot shop on Melrose Ave. in L.A.
26:20 - Leering Gene / Lisa Carletto / Is Paul nicer than Gene? / Is Hall nicer than Oates? / Hall and Oates backstage at House of Blues Myrtle Beach
28:07 - High-functioning introvert / Energy levels in introverts and extroverts after social gatherings
29:27 - Roger's new editor at Post and Courier Myrtle Beach / Charles Perry / My Horry News / Carolina Forest Chronicle / Sun News / Weekly Surge / Loyalties as a freelancer
30:47 - Roger is still trying to understand football / "Take Your Eye off the Ball 2.0" by Pat Kirwan
31:77 - Parting shots / Family in town / Palmetto tree / Palmetto bug
33:49 - "Carolina Moon" by Chris Yale, acoustic performance by Chris in honor of Tom Hanlon, RIP
The twins recall gigs at a bygone Sunset Strip venue and continue down a conversational hallway with many doors: From tape format conversion, friends, misheard lyrics and turning 60 - to electric guitars, family, gigs, Hollywood and much more. Chris unearthed a live recording from said bygone venue.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Just No Way" by Chris Yale - live at The Central (now The Viper Room), Hollywood. Performed by Kirby and the Gators circa 1987.
4:21 - Greetings and more about the song. Ian Talcroft, guitar / The Central / The Viper Room / Filthy McNasty's / Filthy McNasty / FM Station
5:24 - The tape archive / Format conversions and digitizing
6:00 - Misheard lyrics / Cher, "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" / More about "Just No Way" / "There was no way" Family Guy clip.
8:30 - Staring down 60 / Family birthday plans / Elton 60 / Elton John current tour
9:55 - Endgame: Stay healthy / Mobility and stretching / Phantom of the Paradise / Diet / High colonic / Roger's sugar incident / McDonald's / Sodium / Annual physicals / Weight loss
14:24 - More about family birthday plans / Chris' chihuahuas
16:45 - Our friend Adam Holt / More about digitizing
17:37 - Chris' electric guitar playing / Sire Larry Carlton T-7 / Yamaha Pacifica / Marcus Miller bass / Indonesian guitars / 1978 Telecaster / Seymour Duncan Hot Rail Humbucker pickup / Rick James "Bustin' Out"
19:45 - Roger's bare-bones piano (Alesis Prestige Artist) / Upcoming gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
20:25 - Roger's solo gig at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Indigo Room / VIP Club / Our friend Carl McClain / P.A. setup / More about VIP Club
22:03 - Hanging with Anderson (Roger's grandson) / Swim session / Anderson at Roger's place / Piano books for Anderson
23:34 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Cigar events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
23:44 - Procrastination and songwriting / "On the air" / Left-handed boogie piano / Gigs
24:47 - "Daisy Jones and the Six" (the book) / Hollywood / Exteriors in "Twins" / "Deliver Me From Nowhere" book about Springsteen's "Nebraska" / Tascam Portastudio 144 / Eurythmics
26:58 - Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Logic Pro / Cubase / "Scataolgic Pro" / Sean Delaney / Skatt Brothers / KISS incognito, 1970s
28:42 - "Take Your Eye Off the Ball 2.0" book / The Yale Brothers on football / Scott Mann / Football diagrams
30:25 - Our friend Daniel Alexander's piano gig at Miceli's Hollywood / Getting hammered at Miceli's / "This Is Spinal Tap" at The Egyptian Theatre Hollywood / Newsstands on Las Palmas and Cahuenga in Hollywood
31:35 - Full-body merkin / Fur sweater / "His and Hirsute"
The twins are getting the hang of recording remotely with the same equipment. Their conversation starts with Hollywood in the 1970s and detours into the present with a discussion of Roger's new stage piano and Chris' electric guitar work, Roger's visit to an amazing property devoted to conservation, education and research, current reading and viewing and much more - including a musical gem from the archive. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "What Might Have Been" - By Chris Yale
3:39 - Greetings / Recording remotely / "I love Jesus but I drink a little" / Ellen DeGeneres / Bono / Duality
6:07 - Newspaper "morgue" at Magic Hotel, 1974 / Exploring vacant rooms / Jeff Daniels let Chris keep his Rolling Stone subscription
7:35 - Piddling around with our papers
8:06 - Roger's new piano / Graded hammer action versus semi-weighted keys on old piano
9:37 - Chris' electric guitar practice / New guitar rack
10:50 - Wrecking Crew documentary / Brian Wilson / Hal Blaine / Tommy Tedesco / Chris' note from Blaine / Blaine's daughter (Michelle Blaine) / Visiting Blaine's house / Hollywood Professional School
13:08 - Just say "know" / Sass Jordan / Michael Benner, KLOS / Carol Kaye and Gene Simmons / The demise of The Wrecking Crew / Glen Campbell / Jimmy Webb / The Mamas and the Papas / Sonny and Cher
15:45 - "The Wrong Missy" / "The Whale" / Films based on plays
17:03 - Roger's visit to Hobcaw Barony, Georgetown SC / FDR / Churchill / Bernard Baruch / Belle W. Baruch / University of South Carolina / Clemson University
22:10 - "The Gift" by Hafiz / "The School of Life" by Alain de Botton / Krista Tippett
23:10 - Parting shots / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / About "What Might Have Been" / Chris' album Well Enough Alone / Roger's daughter's new drink invention, The "Guin and Tonic," featured at Hartley's Irish Pub in Brooklyn / Edison of alcohol / Palomino, 1970s / Robert Preston
The twins are back, podcasting from their respective studios - and as usual going down rabbit holes. Lots about the recording gear they are using, misheard lyrics and vocal tics - Chris' solo concertgoing back in the day, Roger's recent trip to see The Wallflowers - current reading and viewing and much more, including a gem from the musical archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Castaway by Chris Yale
4:28 - Greetings / Paraquat Kelley / Castaway Studios Australia / Zoom Livetrak L-8
5:54 - Using the L-8 as a mixer for live sound / Schlepping / Using the L-8 as an audio interface / Zoom Video Communications (not the same Zoom) = Zoom Zoom?
8:25 - Filling in lyrics with our own sounds / Possible spectrum component / Deciphering misheard lyrics - Elton John / Duran Duran / Michael Stipe
10:30 - R.E.M. at the Palladium, Los Angeles / R.E.M. at Beverly Theatre, Los Angeles / Chris' "lone wolf" concertgoing / R.E.M. "Fables of the Reconstruction" Tour / Marcy Playground (not the band) / Minutemen
13:42 - Family in town / Roger was the Putt-Putt biggest loser
14:41 - The Wallflowers in Charleston / Charleston Music Hall / Jakob Dylan / Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach / Tom Petty and Bob Dylan Alone and Together, Irvine, California / Tom Petty at Greek Theatre, Los Angeles
16:57 - Wallflower songs / Three Marlenas, The Only Difference, One Headlight, 6th Avenue Heartache, Everybody Out of the Water
17:37 - Leon Russell at Charleston Music Hall
18:00 - Chris comes "out of retirement" / Upcoming show at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Game face / Doing the work / "Do the Work" by Steven Pressfield / "Idea men"
19:19 - John Hiatt biography / Brian Tracy, "6 Essentials to Start & Succeed in Your Own Business" / We are the product
20:10 - Matthew McConaughey, "Green Lights" / Interview with Ed Mylett
21:18 - "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel" final season / Rachel Brosnahan / Tony Shalhoub / Ensemble
22:04 - Bitches with glitches
22:18 - Chris and electric guitar / SRA Reading Lab
23:13 - Roger's trip to Guitar Center / Digital pianos / Alesis Prestige Artist / Nord / PRS guitars / Tobacco Sunburst Gibson Les Paul / Acoustic guitar room
26:01 - Parting shots / Thumber bummer / Scott Mann / Scott Mann's Blues Hangover / Scott Mann's Headshop / Scott Mann on Yale Brothers Podcast
The twins try their hands once again at remote recording from their respective studios with the identical gear - and talk about everything from the recent heavy snow in the California mountains and insane concert ticket pricing to the Dominican Republic, KISS, Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie - and much more, icluding a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Go" by Chris Yale
3:25 - Greetings / Remote session via Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / About the song and Chris' album (Well Enough Alone, 2007) / Mastering engineer Ronnie Morris (RIP) / Yamaha AW2816
6:02 - Magic Hotel / Dad used to disappear
7:17 - More about Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Mixing "in the box" / "Fix it in post" / "Flying it into Logic Pro
8:33 - "Don't touch it - it may have some disease." / Budding forensic scientist
9:33 - Heavy snow in Crestline, Ca. / Mark Mulkeen / Goodwin and Son's Market / Goodwin twins / First Communion / Secretly Married
11:48 - KISS at Madison Square Garden TICKET FIASCO / No love for the working man / KISS Army / KISS in Raleigh
14:09 - Rob Zombie and Alice Cooper in Raleigh / Freaks on Parade Tour / Filter / Ministry
15:11 - Is Alice Cooper a rock star? / "Elected" / "Clones" / Rock 'n' Roll Wayne Newton / "School's Out" / "No More Mr. Nice Guy"
17:28 - Daily routines / Morning routines / Interruptions / Jounaling / "Gin and Juice"
19:03 - Chris' upcoming Dominican Republic trip / Travel prep / Anxiety / Language barrier / Punta Cana and Casa de Campo / Learning Spanish? / Pimsleur Spanish course / Afrikaans / More about routines and interruptions
22:08 - A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole / Picaresque novel / Author suicide / Posthumous publication and Pulitzer Prize
23:28 - Chris' computer issues / iMac
27:10 - Parting shots / Grandfather life
The twins are back - and down the rabbit hole they go, talking about everything from quirky South African phrases and spy ballons, music gear and grandsons, Todd Bridges' recent visit to Myrtle Beach and much more - including a new musical snippet from Chris. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Way Back Home" by Chris Yale - Snippet
2:03 - Greetings and about the song / Roland V-Drums / EZdrummer
3:15 - "UZZUT" explained / South African expressions
4:38 - Flaccid balloon / Chris saw Chinese spy balloon shot down in Myrtle Beach / Richard Branson's balloon adventures / Balloon Boy Hoax / More about Chinese balloon
7:23 - Roger's baby grandon, Anderson / The Grandfather Club
8:40 - Roger's solo gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Recent aborted gig / Barefoot Landing
10:18 - Chris' guitar adventures / Acoustic Fly Rig / Electric Fly Rig / California Blonde amp
11:28 - Chris on a roll / Anxiety?
11:58 - More Chinese balloon / Surveillance is a two-way street
13:00 - Roger's free associations: Bela Fleck / The Smithereens / Dave Matthews' Satellite"
13:30 - Todd Bridges / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Chris' memories of Todd Bridges at Hollywood Professional School / Todd's recovery story / Killing Willis book / Casey King / Read Roger's blog post HERE.
15:50 - Chris and Logic Pro / Howard Jones versus Howard Johnson's / Nostalgia / Misophonia
17:53 - More about Todd Bridges
19:47 - The slow season in Myrtle Beach
20:34 - The Master Key System by Charles F. Haanel / Steven Tyler memoir / American Colonies by Alan Taylor / Penguin Press / Burgess Meredith as The Penguin
22:22 - Mike Nichols documentary / The White Lotus / Aubrey Plaza / Emily the Criminal
24:25 - Sleep hangover
24:46 - Parting shots / Chris' gear / Fearless moral inventory / Government Mule / Lekker Eats in Myrtle Beach
The twins run the gamut from songwriting to music gear, Elton John to the Miami Dolphins, embarrassing moments to books, movies, Lemmy and much more - including a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "The Wind" by Chris Yale
3:32 - Greetings / 1972 chatter / New For '72 LP / Miami Dolphins
4:50 - About "The Wind" / Chris' songwriting / Dark lyrics / Uncle Roger was superstitious
6:17 - Behringer Tube Amp Modeler / California Blonde amp / Davey Johnstone / Reticular Activating System / FOMO vs. FOMP
8:07 - Elton John at Dodger Stadium
9:28 - Thanksgiving at the Yale homes
10:35 - Holiday sides / The Robotooth blunder / Robot-Coupe
14:34 - Embarrassing little moments
15:57 - The need to be understood / Read Roger's blog post HERE
16:55 - "The Critic's Crypt"
18:04 - Press passes / Bloggers
18:42 - Terry Allen / Bob Lefsetz / Allen's songs "Amarillo Highway" and "Gimme a Ride to Heaven Boy"
20:47 - Little Free Library / Robert Lowell Notebook / The Elements of Style
21:42 - Christmas in retail / Where's Jesus? / Black Friday / Hymns versus hers / "Hymn to Her" / Chrissie Hynde / Pretenders / Lemmy
24:10 - Elvis biopic = depressing
25:38 - Touring and merch
26:01 - Parting shots / Don't be conformed / Subtleties of propaganda
In this episode, the twins run the gamut from MGM musicals to The Great Smoky Mountains, Jerry Lee Lewis to W. Kamau Bell, Sigmund Freud to Bob Dylan - and much more, including a musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Tighter" by Doug McKelley - Performed by Chris Yale, 2009
2:40 - Greetings and about the song
3:41 - Hanging with Chris' cats, Stevie and Kevin
5:23 - Undercover Introvert
6:03 - Roger tries a new joke on Chris / The problem with "get it?" / Standup
7:53 - Chris' throat issues/ Sigmund Freud oral cancer / Freud and cocaine
9:44 - Trips to the Vagabond Theatre with Dad, Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles / MGM musicals / The Bijou Theatre on Hollywood Boulevard / C.C. Brown's / Swensen's / David Lee Bynum
11:30 - More MGM musicals / "That's Entertainment!" / Meeting Eleanor Powell / Powell's tap shoes at Capezio Hollywood
13:24 - The original Yale Brothers didn't "get" rock 'n' roll / dying onstage versus killing onstage
14:12 - Audio issues with remote recording / ZOOM Livetrak L-8 / DAW / Logic Pro / Presets on L-8
15:54 - Roger's trip to the mountains / Maggie Valley, NC / Elk in Cherokee, NC / Bryson City, NC / Great Smoky Mountains Railroad / Wrecked trains from "The Fugitive" / Dillsboro, NC
17:49 - Gatlinburg, TN aka Myrtle Beach in the Mountains / Pigeon Forge, TN (same thing) / Ripley's Aquarium / Hollywood Wax Museum
19:33 - More David Lee Bynum
20:03 - Show tunes
20:56 - Grandfather and grandfather-to-be ' Kids and colds
22:08 - "The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell" / United Shades of America
23:07 - Jerry Lee Lewis documentary, "I Am What I Am" / Chris met him in Myrtle Beach
24:22 - Figuring out cousins
25:19 - More Jerry lee Lewis - "The Devil's Music" / Sun Records
27:17 - More about vacations / Spending money
28:08 - Chris' music gear and accessories
28:34 - Bob Dylan documentary, "No Direction Home" / Pete Seeger's long-neck banjo / Dave Van Ronk / Fred Neil / Oscar Brand (see Fred Berney podcast episode) / Degrees of Dylan separation
29:50 - Parting shots / Retail killed the Christmas spirit / Our souls / Love not sleep
31:39 - Roger checks on Chris' state of mind, and that annoys Chris / "That don't confront me."
Recording remotely, the twins talk about growing up in Coconut Grove, the oldest permanent settlement in the greater Miami area - dredging up memories of their old stomping grounds and antics before moving to Los Angeles. They discuss music, songwriting, audio and more - including a musical sampling from one of Chris' recent sessions. Above: Coconut Grove (Photo: New York Times)
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Chris exploring musical possibilities in new jam.
2:18 - Greetings / "Vote for Chris" / Chris singing at Mass / The Miami News / "The Magic Show" at Coconut Grove Playhouse and in L.A. / Peter De Paula /
4:46 - Roger wants all the family photos / What is family friendly?
5:15 - Roger's new blog post about growing up in Coconut Grove / Roger trying to remember / Feedback on Old Coconut Grove Facebook page / More about the Grove
8:10 - Vizcaya Museum & Gardens / Museum of Science / Miami Seaquarium shark display / Rickenbacker Causeway / Busted with BB guns in Miami and Hollywood Hills
11:25 - Eskil's Clog Shop Miami / Debbie Hansen / Cozzolli's Pizza / Buying fake IDs / Bus stop at Dinner Key / Sailboat Bay / David T. Kennedy Park
13:50 - Latency issues from piano to P.A. / PreSonus StudioLive 16 /
15:00 - Chris all alone at the house with the animals / Playing guitar through Roland Micro Cube amp / California Blonde amp
17:14 - Chris ' current reading / The Bible / C. S. Lewis "The Weight of Glory" / Roger mentions "Mere Christianity" / James Altucher "Choose Yourself" / Roger still reading "Main Street" by Sinclair Lewis / Game show scandal involving Charles Van Doren, co-author (with Mortimer Adler) of "How to Read a Book" / Syntopicon
21:12 - Roger "boning up" on Boogie Woogie piano
22:58 - Songwriting versus instrument mastery
24:24 - Playing the Selectric
24:59 - Parting shots / Americone Dream / Chris' regratabble diet, lately / The Pump House gym Myrtle Beach / Chris' grandsons Miles and Elijah
In this episode, the twins try their hands again at remote recording. Roger is excited that the iconic rock magazine, CREEM, is back again. Family, books, Elton and life lately - plus another gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Early Train" by Chris Yale - Performed at The Central (now The Viper Room), Los Angeles 1989
4:06 - Greetings / About the song / Recording this podcast remotely
4:58 - CREEM Magazine is back / "Boy Howdy" / R. Crumb / Barry Kramer / J.J. Kramer / No Depression Magazine
6:39 - Lester Bangs / Greil Marcus / Dave Marsh
7:36 - "Have a Little Faith: The John Hiatt Story" by Michael Elliot / John Hiatt music and catalog / Roger "playing ahead"
9:51 - CREEM cover - new first issue
10:23 - Roger's writing / Drumming up work and blogging
10:46 - Chris meets his granddaugher, Naomi / Rog hanging with Katie, Bill, Miles and Naomi
11:28 - Elton John in Charlotte / Elton at Barclay's Center 2019
12:54 - "Main Street" by Sinclair Lewis / "Babbitt" / Provincial blowback
14:55 - Elbert Hubbard's Scrap Book / The Note Book of Elbert Hubbard / Grove Park Inn, Asheville
15:47 - Roger's upcoming vacation / Maggie Valley and more
16:40 - 2023 shows at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Roger solo gigs
17:46 - Kent Kimes / Weekly Surge
18:49 - "Dead Elvis" by Greil Marcus / Books we forgot / "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" / "Conceptual Blockbusting" / "Economics Explained" / Michael Benner / KLOS
19:45 - Pascal badgering Joe Benson at KLOS / Acid / Ancient Age
20:45 - Parting shots / Chris' mother-in-law's birthday / More CREEM
The twins go down a rabbit hole that runs the gamut from recording gear, old papers and anxiety to gigs in Myrtle Beach, horrible movies, a hardhat and much more - including a replay of a musical gem from their old band, Rogue Alley. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "City of Pain" by Chris Yale performed by Rogue Alley
4:23 - Greetings / The life of the mind / Dusty old papers / Dominick Dunne / Karpeles Manuscript Library Museum Charleston, S.C. / College of Charleston / Hollywood Bookbinding shop, 1970s
6:18 - About "City of Pain" / Chris' leather pants / Rick Springfield / Jim Morrison / Rob Halford / Village People / The hardhat
9:12 - "Can't Stop the Music" / Alan Carr / Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner / Mixdowns on blow / Fleetwood Mac "Tusk"
10:16 - Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Roger's progress / Issues with TRRS cable / Dumping files to DAW / Mix minus / RODEcaster Pro
16:05 - Chris dropped his phone
17:24 - "The Season" is ending in Myrtle Beach / "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" / Joan Didion / "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" / Chris brags about his chores at work
20:26 - Chris' anxiety / "I'll see how I feel tomorrow" / Letters between Mom and Dad / Heavily redacted and curated / Mom's journals
25:48 - Old Bull and Bush Pub Myrtle Beach versus LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Old versus new recording and PA gear
27:25 - Yinzers
27:34 - Chris' meltdown / Questions about mental states / The Canadian tobacco order / Roger punched Chris
30:03 - Roger Dollarhide and our cousin Lidcay / "Lidcay pulled a gun on me" / Oxygen tent revival
31:27 - Burned out on Bowie and Bruce / Melissa Etheridge on Bob Lefsetz Podcast / Daryl Hall on Lefsetz Podcast / Chris' 12-string Takamine / A (pedalboard) Chorus Line
33:15 - Roger got a spoof email / Kramer on the bus
36:12 - "How to Read a Book" - Adler / Little Free Library / Giving away books
37:32 - TRRS experiment
The twins go down a rabbit hole that runs the gamut from recording gear, old papers and anxiety to gigs in Myrtle Beach, horrible movies, a hardhat and much more - including a replay of a musical gem from their old band, Rogue Alley. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "City of Pain" by Chris Yale performed by Rogue Alley
4:23 - Greetings / The life of the mind / Dusty old papers / Dominick Dunne / Karpeles Manuscript Library Museum Charleston, S.C. / College of Charleston / Hollywood Bookbinding shop, 1970s
6:18 - About "City of Pain" / Chris' leather pants / Rick Springfield / Jim Morrison / Rob Halford / Village People / The hardhat
9:12 - "Can't Stop the Music" / Alan Carr / Bruce (Caitlyn) Jenner / Mixdowns on blow / Fleetwood Mac "Tusk"
10:16 - Zoom LiveTrak L-8 / Roger's progress / Issues with TRRS cable / Dumping files to DAW / Mix minus / RODEcaster Pro
16:05 - Chris dropped his phone
17:24 - "The Season" is ending in Myrtle Beach / "Slouching Towards Bethlehem" / Joan Didion / "Slouching Towards Gomorrah" / Chris brags about his chores at work
20:26 - Chris' anxiety / "I'll see how I feel tomorrow" / Letters between Mom and Dad / Heavily redacted and curated / Mom's journals
25:48 - Old Bull and Bush Pub Myrtle Beach versus LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Old versus new recording and PA gear
27:25 - Yinzers
27:34 - Chris' meltdown / Questions about mental states / The Canadian tobacco order / Roger punched Chris
30:03 - Roger Dollarhide and our cousin Lidcay / "Lidcay pulled a gun on me" / Oxygen tent revival
31:27 - Burned out on Bowie and Bruce / Melissa Etheridge on Bob Lefsetz Podcast / Daryl Hall on Lefsetz Podcast / Chris' 12-string Takamine / A (pedalboard) Chorus Line
33:15 - Roger got a spoof email / Kramer on the bus
36:12 - "How to Read a Book" - Adler / Little Free Library / Giving away books
37:32 - TRRS experiment
The twins discuss the various DAWs and standalone multitrack recorders at their disposal and the learning curves associated with them. They also touch on Georgetown, SC, going wireless, a discussion about a book Roger has been wanting to read for decades and much more - including a crazy instrumental from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Crime Drama 1975" - by Chris Yale
1:39 - Greetings and about the track / Logic Pro versus GarageBand / Failing at Cubase / "Failing Forward" by John C. Maxwell
3:30 - Florian ZaBach was a real dude / The Firesign Theatre / Travalanche Blog
5:38 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Overdevelopment
6:43 - Chris went wireless
8:47 - ZOOM LiveTrak L-8 - Roger is getting one, Chris has one / Remote podcasting
10:31 - Carolina Forest versus Myrtle Beach
11:03 - Chris' trip to Georgetown, SC, with wife Betsy / Front Street Guitars / Purr & Pour Cat Cafe / Folk art / Howard Finster / Howard Bannister / Fenster
16:50 - Recent gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
17:00 - "How to Read a Book" by Mortimer Adler and Charles Van Doren / Encyclopedia Britannica / Great Books of the Western World / Syntopicon / About the book
21:30 - Scrolling and the decline of attention / Bob Lefsetz / TikTok
22:43 - Learning the ZOOM L8
23:32 - Elton John is coming to Charlotte
24:00 - Georgetown / Brookgreen Gardens / Aesthetics / Appreciating Art / Ox head and scorpion tail / John Entwistle and Michael Schenker
25:49 - Birthday shout-outs to Jim Alden, Craig Cass, Scott Mann, Chris Garcia
27:05 - Al Goldstein, again / Parting shots
The twins discuss Chris' guitars and their inherent personalities throughout this episode. Chris is going to be a grandfather again and Roger is going to be a first-time grandfather. But there's more: A misplaced lecture from a nun, the choice to respond correctly, recent gigs, a song snippet from the archive and much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Song snippet: "Same Old Thing" by Chris Yale
2:40 - Greetings / Chris' guitars: Voices and tunings / Orangewood / Alvarez / Yamaha Pacifica / 1978 Telecaster / Freedom Guitar Hollywood
5:36 - About "Same Old Thing"
6:13 - Sister Kathleen got it wrong
8:00 - Holsum Bread
9:14 - Episode 65 with Fred Berney
9:55 - The Grandfather Club- Chris and Roger
12:19 - More about the Coffee House scene / Brill Building songwriters: Carole King, Cynthia Weil / Barry Mann / Andy Kim / Jeff Barry / Holdouts from the Folk scene
13:57 - The rocking chairs at Baptist Hospital, Miami
14:41 - Deciding to play music / Drums and piano / Boogie-woogie piano
17:35 - Sound settings at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Requests / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / Old Bull and Bush Pub / Schlepping and sound / Cubase and DAW
22:47 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Recharging and getaways / Weed
24:09 - It's never too late / Time will pass anyway
24:30 - More guitar talk / Ovation / Takamine / Alvarez / Oscar's Gibson SG
25:43 - No apologies / Let guilt transform you / Screw guilt? / Al Goldstein / Cigar shows / Mickey Rooney / Star-B-Que / Roy Moseley
27:40 - Commercial auditions / Agents / Ann Wright Agency / Margo Vann's photos
29:00 - Missy the cat looks like Babs
30:36 - Our attitudes and responses / Roger's BLOG POST about that / Viktor Frankl / Chris' mea culpa rant
34:08 - More about Chris' guitar voices / Morgan Spruce / Morgan Spurlock / JP Morgan / Morgan Fairchild
35:39 - Canal Street Stradivarius
36:44 - Status nonsense / Play what you like / Lugging heavy gear to bars / Guitar is passe / Music technology
39:00 - "Songwriter" movie / "Ishtar"
39:44 - Retail at the Brill
40:05 - Parting shots / Heaven / Hebrew National / Nathan's
The twins discuss Chris' guitars and their inherent personalities throughout this episode. Chris is going to be a grandfather again and Roger is going to be a first-time grandfather. But there's more: A misplaced lecture from a nun, the choice to respond correctly, recent gigs, a song snippet from the archive and much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Song snippet: "Same Old Thing" by Chris Yale
2:40 - Greetings / Chris' guitars: Voices and tunings / Orangewood / Alvarez / Yamaha Pacifica / 1978 Telecaster / Freedom Guitar Hollywood
5:36 - About "Same Old Thing"
6:13 - Sister Kathleen got it wrong
8:00 - Holsum Bread
9:14 - Episode 65 with Fred Berney
9:55 - The Grandfather Club- Chris and Roger
12:19 - More about the Coffee House scene / Brill Building songwriters: Carole King, Cynthia Weil / Barry Mann / Andy Kim / Jeff Barry / Holdouts from the Folk scene
13:57 - The rocking chairs at Baptist Hospital, Miami
14:41 - Deciding to play music / Drums and piano / Boogie-woogie piano
17:35 - Sound settings at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Requests / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / Old Bull and Bush Pub / Schlepping and sound / Cubase and DAW
22:47 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Recharging and getaways / Weed
24:09 - It's never too late / Time will pass anyway
24:30 - More guitar talk / Ovation / Takamine / Alvarez / Oscar's Gibson SG
25:43 - No apologies / Let guilt transform you / Screw guilt? / Al Goldstein / Cigar shows / Mickey Rooney / Star-B-Que / Roy Moseley
27:40 - Commercial auditions / Agents / Ann Wright Agency / Margo Vann's photos
29:00 - Missy the cat looks like Babs
30:36 - Our attitudes and responses / Roger's BLOG POST about that / Viktor Frankl / Chris' mea culpa rant
34:08 - More about Chris' guitar voices / Morgan Spruce / Morgan Spurlock / JP Morgan / Morgan Fairchild
35:39 - Canal Street Stradivarius
36:44 - Status nonsense / Play what you like / Lugging heavy gear to bars / Guitar is passe / Music technology
39:00 - "Songwriter" movie / "Ishtar"
39:44 - Retail at the Brill
40:05 - Parting shots / Heaven / Hebrew National / Nathan's
“Hootenanny A Go-Go,” aka “Once Upon A Coffee House” is a 1965 film based on an original story by and includes songs and music from our dad, Carl Yale (that’s him with the sunglasses if you’re on Libsyn). The film was shot in Miami at a breakneck pace in 1964 and was produced by Fred Berney.
The idea came about as a result of Berney’s visits to one of our father’s (and uncle's) coffee houses in Miami – The Hootenanny – as the folk scene was coming to a crescendo at the advent of the British Invasion – and was intended as a vehicle for various folk artists at the time. Of note is the fact that the film was also the first-ever screen appearance by Joan Rivers.
Here’s our conversation with Fred – a look into the film itself, his life and career in media, and his take on Miami itself.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Once Upon a Coffee House" by Carl Yale, performed by The Goldebriars
2:00 - Greetings and about the song - from the film "Hootenanny A Go-Go" aka "Once Upon a Coffee House"
3:25 - Welcome Fred Berney / Growing up in Miami / Shenandoah Elementary / Shenandoah Junior High / Miami Senior High
4:50 - Early interest in recording / Pentron 9T-3C
8:57 - Hanging out at WQAM / Kirby Brooks / DuPont Building / "Johnny's Magic Adventure" multi-groove records / Bob Gordon / Rick Shaw / Jon Arthur / Brace Beemer / Miami Stadium
14:20 - Turning a love of radio into a profession / Recording studio / Satellite Media backstory
17:13 - Meeting Carl and Roger Yale, the original Yale Brothers / Hootenanny Coffee House (8th Street)
18:50 - Origins of radio show / Joseph Cotton / "Night at the Hootenanny Coffee House" record / Phil Koss / Helene Slack / Vince Martin / Recording process and performers / Mike Piel / Columbus Day Hootenanny live recording
25:43 - The Coffee House (Douglas Road) - used for exteriors in the movie / Interiors shot on sets.
26:53 - Background info on movie / Vehicle for Folk music / Fred's film education at the University of Miami and real-world experience / Commercial production
29:58 - Interest in shooting a film / "Sextet" (1964 - Not the Mae West movie) / Russ Meyer "nudie-cuties"
31:00 - More background on movie / Initial funding through Berney's father / Reela Films / Wometco and WTVJ / Meeting at Epic Records NYC / The Freewheelers / The Goldebriars / Casting / The Bitter End NYC / Jim, Jake and Joan
34:18 - Premiere in Miami / The sets / Storage of negative / Prints / 35mm versus 16mm / Arriflex camera versus Mitchell camera
38:40 - Director of Photography Will Jones / Issues with original director / Commentary track on DVD - distributed by Alpha Video / Talent considered: Director Chris Nyby II, Jerry Van Dyke, Paul Lynde / Lead roles: Curtis Taylor and Karen Thorsell
45:15 - Radio show 1963 / Whirlwind courtship with future wife Ellen Berney
46:36 - Music by Carl Yale with additional lyrics by (Uncle) Roger Yale - with the exception of Oscar Brand / Original script / Director Shepard Traube
52:25 - "Nude Girl with Guitar" painting
53:42 - Dad's cameos / Dream sequence / Crew as extras / Chris and Roger appeared in their stroller
57:12 - Parting comments
59:10 - "Honey Bunny" by Carl Yale
In this episode, the twins discuss the tourist season in Myrtle Beach, the long-awaited KISS show in Raleigh, dense books, obnoxious drinking times - and much more, including a gem from the musical archive - this one from Chris' friend and former bandmate. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "No Way" by Doug McKelley
2:36 - Greetings / Podcast resistance / Bullworker / About the song / Medicine Hat / Doug McKelley, Phil Romano, Ed Dennis, Nick Falco (RIP) / Wow and flutter / Adjust the azimuth
5:26 - Financial literacy / Credit and consumerism
6:18 - "The Season" in Myrtle Beach / Broadway at the Beach / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Beach town? / Over-development
8:19 - KISS in Raleigh, finally / BLOG POST / Perception versus reality / David Garibaldi / Denny Dent / Ken Kelly (RIP) / Love Gun Tour / "KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park" / Six Flags Magic Mountain / Pre-trip playlist / Parking lot t-shirts
15:09 - Miles (Chris' grandson) calls him "Dude."
16:47 - Dense books / "Fantasyland" by Kurt Andersen / John Hiatt biography / New Thought movement / Emerson / Thoreau / "Saints and Strangers" / "London's Burning"
21:29 - Drinking and obnoxious behavior back in the day
22:59 - Trump doesn't read
23:32 - Allen Ginsberg / The Beat Generation / Burroughs / "Junky" / Cut-and paste / "Naked Lunch" / "Cities of the Red Night" / Burroughs' wife's death / Kerouac's "On the Road" / Watershed's "Bleeding on the Blank Page"
25:06 - Carolina Country Music Fest is sold out / Luke Bryan / Keith Urban / Jason Aldean / Myrtle Beach resident parking stickers
26:47 - Chris' song and snippet work
27:26 - Anxiety
27:45 - Parting shots - Taylor (Roger's daughter) is visiting soon / Summer events at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / Gurkha Cigars / Sparky's Country Store - "Have a Bow-WOW Day" / Thoughts of heaven
The twins discuss the baby formula shortage, their childhood home in up in Coconut Grove, KISS, groupies, various recording platforms and much more, including another gem from the music archive. SHOW NOTES: 0:00 - "Seeing's Believing" - Medicine Hat version
4:08 - Greetings and about the song
5:18 - Dig Dug / Sweetened and sugary sodas
5:58 - Baby formula shortage / Atlantic article / Back to breastfeeding?
11:37 - Supply chain / Crypto crash
12:44 - Roger's newspaper work / Coconut Grove blog post / 2340 Tigertail Court / More about the house / "Square Grouper"
16;29 - "Square groupies" / Death of a Plaster Caster / "Sweet, Sweet Connie" / KISS' "Plaster Caster"
18:49 - KISS' early influence on The Yale Brothers / Cheap Trick / Strasberg school / "Uta Hagen Dazs"
20:54 - ROG finally going to KISS in Raleigh
22:02 - "Fame" movie / Teresa Hughes / Irene Cara
22:37 - Chris' animals
23:13 - Chris is working on song ideas / recording and drumming platforms / Chris' drumming / On overplaying
28:18 - Bike Week in Myrtle Beach / Baggers and Double-Baggers
28:55 - Recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
29:56 - Parting Shots / "Who's Roger Yale?" / Chris' anxiety
The twins cover more than any short podcast should attempt - beginning with a question about whether or not booze is a drug and then diving into a maelstrom of ever-changing topics - including recording artists, songwriting, artistic integrity, performing rights organizations and much more - including another musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Broken Angel" by Chris Yale - remix
4:00 - Greetings / Paraquat Kelley / 4:20 Candle / Stoners versus Drunks / Pigpen / The Grateful Dead / "This Is Spinal Tap"
5:35 - Isn't booze a drug? / Drink and judge / Is Roger a judgmental bastard? / Chemical smells
8:45 - Roxy Music / "Love is the Drug" / Judging recording artists / Lou Reed / "New York" album / The Velvet Underground / "Mistrial" / "New Sensations"
11:09 - Put-on personas / David Bowie and Mick Ronson produced "Walk on the Wild Side" / Mark Ronson / Toni Braxton
14:05 - Selling out? / Artistic integrity?
15:24 - Chris' current listening / Chris Cornell / Black Sabbath "Master of Reality" / Chris' darker side / "Sweet Leaf"
16:58 - About "Broken Angel" remix / Peter Knight / Yamaha AW series
18:25 - Mouth-breathing on mic / Chris' grandson tried to eat the mic
19:00 - Reconnecting with Roger's de facto piano mentor, Gordon Mogden / Roger's blog post, "Leon's Piano" / Leon Russell / Paradise Studios Burbank
21:42 - Chris' current efforts on Logic Pro / 1978 Telecaster / Roger's Cubase LE AI Elements 12 / Steinberg / Remote podcast sessions versus in-person sessions
26:18 - Easter "CEOs" / Mitch Easter / "The Andy Warhol Diaries" / Edifice Wrecks / Starstruck / Chris saw Jagger and Bowie / Chris tried on boots next to Paul Stanley on Melrose / Upcoming KISS and Elton John shows for Roger / Cidny Bullens and Elton John / The Refugees
32:10 - Roger's nature outings / Vereen Memorial Gardens / Myrtle Beach State Park
33:00 - Bruce Cockburn (pronounced Coburn) - We would pronounce it like that too / If you lay out on your back and fall asleep at a nudist beach, could you get Coburn? / Jackson Browne / Eric Clapton
34:26 - Yale Brothers on songwriting / Capturing ideas when they show up / TAXI / ASCAP / BMI / Performing rights organizations
39:10 - Steven Pressfield books / Book sharing / Kindle / DRM / Creative Commons / Dave Slusher / "Evil Genius Chronicles"
40:30 - Parting shots / Brotherly love / Edie Brickell and Paul Simon / Carrie Fisher and Paul Simon / Edie Sedgwick
Televangelists. Scandals. Bhagwans. Barefoot drummers. The twins are at it again. Also: Another digitized gem from the song archive. SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Living for You" by Chris Yale
4:35 - Greetings / Losing ten minutes of gold / About the song / Steve Kobashigawa / Vox Continental
6:51 - Roger being judgy
7:26 - Shout-out to Cidny Bullens / Elton John turns 75 / New Daryl Hall album
9:02 - Red Hot Chili Peppers / Flea on WTF Podcast / Reticular Activating System
10:30 - Hanging out with Jack Irons / Jim Alden / What Is This / Anthym / Pearl Jam / Irons' barefoot drumming / Hillel Slovak / Chris Hutchinson / Alain Johannes
12:21 - Keith Richards quit smoking / "Main Offender" / "Bare Trees" by Fleetwood Mac / "Billy Goat Girl" aka Stevie Nicks / Chris' cat Stevie
14:48 - Heritage USA / Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker / "Eyes of Tammy Faye" / Jessica Chastain / Andrew Garfield / Vincent D'Onofrio as Jerry Falwell Sr. / Moral Majority / "Bagging the Bhagwan" / PTL / 700 Club / Ron Jeremy and Tammy Faye
18:50 - Chris went to Cabo / TAA / Hacienda Del Mar / Rocky Patel
20:50 - Chris took a Delta 9 gummy - or was it Delta 8?
21:56 - Chris is going to be a grandfather again
22:21 - Nervous? / Solo gigs
23:15 - Dragon steam / Dragon's Milk / Badger Milk / Muscle Milk / Cow's Milk or Mother's Milk - "Victor Victoria"
24:02 - Parting shots
Part two of the twins' conversation with Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter Cidny Bullens - starting from his first visit to Nashville (now his home with wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein) to the unspeakable loss of his youngest daughter and the album that paid loving tribute to her - to his transition from Cindy to Cidny and his one-person show, his upcoming memoir and much more - including two more tracks from his 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Lucky For Me" by Cidny Bullens - From 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World"
3:27 - Greetings and about the song / More about Cidny
5:00 - Welcome Cidny / COVID-19 situation in Nashville / Book progress - "TransElectric" due in 2023 - Preorders likely in Fall of 2022
8:09 - HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Casey King / Cidny's presentation at 46:05 / Thoughts on recovery / Ice cream and tortilla chips
11:23 - Nashville experience continued / "Send Me an Angel" / David Mansfield / Emmylou Harris / Radney Foster / Bill Lloyd
15:15 - 1989 MCA album, "Cindy Bullens"
15:44 - First trip to Nashville / Writing with Foster and Lloyd / BMI head Roger Sovine / L.A. versus Nashville songwriting collaborations / Immediate acceptance in Nashville / Changes in approach to songwriting / Crafting the song
20:35 - Daughters Jessie and Reid / Losing Jessie to complications from Hodgkin's Lymphoma, 1996 / "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" single / Kye Fleming
25:15 - "In Better Hands" / "A Thousand Shades of Gray" / "The Lights of Paris" / Beth Nelson Chapman / Rodney Crowell
27:25 - 1999 album "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" / Lucinda Williams / Bonnie Raitt / Bryan Adams / Tony Berg / Danny Goldberg - Artemis Records / "Better Than I've Ever Been"
32:18 - The Refugees / Wendy Waldman / Deborah Holland / Animal Logic / Stewart Copeland / Stanley Clarke
37:05 - "Neverland" album / "Dream #29" album / Ray Kennedy / Steve Earle / Twang Trust / John Hiatt / Delbert McClinton / Elton John on piano on "Dream #29" single
39:05 - More about The Refugees / Work on new record in April / Blessed with supportive friends
41:08 - Transition begins 2011 / First public appearances 2012 / Appearances with The Refugees during this period / "Purgatory Road" / "Going into hiding" / Working at L.L. Bean warehouse in Maine
47:45 - 2014 Canadian gigs with Deborah Holland / More about The Refugees since transition
48:58 - One-person show, "Somewhere Between: Not An Ordinary Life" / Meeting wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein, also director of the show and solo show coach
55:12 - First reading of show in Maine / Budding romance / Married in 2018
56:51 - About the 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" / "Purgatory Road" / "Little Pieces" / "The Gender Line"
59:48 - "Invisible" documentary / Songwriting process / Authenticity
1:05:13 - Discussing two awesome Cidny Bullens quotes
1:07:09 - About the song, "Sugartown"
1:10:26 - Wrapping it up / "TransElectric" memoir due in 2023 / Check out www.cidnybullens.com
1:11:35 - "Sugartown"
The Yale Brothers welcome pioneering rocker and singer/songwriter Cidny Bullens for part one of a two-part conversation.
Cidny is a two-time Grammy nominee with 9 albums spanning more than 40 years. He was a backup singer for Elton John and performed two lead vocals on the Grease movie soundtrack. He is one-third of a group called The Refugees with fellow singer/songwriters. Wendy Waldman and Deborah Holland.
Cidny – or Cid – began the transition process from Cindy to Cidny in 2011 – and "Walkin' Through This World" is his first album as a man.
A documentary about Cidny’s life – also called "The Gender Line" – was screened at more than 20 film festivals around the world in 2019.
He created a one-person show, "Somewhere Between: Not an Ordinary Life" in 2016 – and he’s currently working on his memoir, "TransElectric."
Cidny will be speaking Thursday, February 24, at Horry-Georgetown Technical College’s Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series – in a virtual setting.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "The Gender Line" by Cidny Bullens from his 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World"
4;17 - Greetings, about the song and about Cidny
5:44 - Cidny (then Cindy) meets Elton John / Cherokee Recording Studios Hollywood / Robb Brothers / Bob Crewe / Neil Sedaka / John Reid
11:54 - "My name is Elton" / Initial Conversation / Connie Papas Hillman invites Bullens on the road with Elton as backup singer.
15:47 - "The hovel" at 8000 Honey Drive, Hollywood / On the road with Elton / "Rock of the Westies" album - West of the Rockies tour / "Don't Go Breaking My Heart" / "Blue Moves" / Still friends to this day
19:10 - Early life - Boston / West Newberry, MA , Maine / Family and music / Albums and 45s / Jazz / Gospel / Black Music
21:56 - First exposure to Little Richard - "Tutti Frutti" - was a pivotal moment / The decision to become a rocker / Chuck Berry / Blues / Jerry Lee Lewis / The "rawness" of rock 'n' roll meets the melody and harmony of The Everly Brothers
24:25 - Trip to Hollywood with $100, a guitar and a backpack / couch surfing / looking for music work / Meeting Bob Crewe (Four Seasons producer) / Fate / Seven years in Los Angeles / Married Dan Crewe in 1979
28:32 - About first album: "Desire Wire" / Challenges surrounding being a woman in rock 'n' roll / Shopping the record / Resistance / First manager Tony Defries / Androgynous / Album recorded on spec / Deal with United Artists Records / "Grease" movie soundtrack
35:26 - First single: "Survivor" - garnered Grammy nomination for Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female (1980) / Vocals / "Sonic Attention" / UA Records folded in 1980 / Don Kirshner's Rock Concert / American Bandstand
39:12 - The Casablanca era / "Tomfoolery"at the label / Not a KISS fan / Neil Bogart / First KISS showcase
42:21 - "Desire Wire" album photo / Taken by Norman Seef's assistant, Georgina Karvellas
44:15 - Bruce Bird's demands at Casablanca and Bullens' eventual departure from the label.
46:25 - Appearances on Bob Dylan Rolling Thunder Revue tour / Bob Neuwirth
50:08 - First marriage to Dan Crewe / 22 years / Daughters Reid and Jessie / Eventual move to Maine
53:05 - Returning to music in 1985 / Roy Orbison Tribute 1990 was life-changing / "Pretty Woman" with Bonnie Raitt, K.D. Lang,, Emmylou Harris / Debbi Peterson / Wendy & Lisa / Tina Weymouth / Carla Azar / Solo song at tribute / T Bone Burnett / Don Was
56:31 - Call from Don Was - "Send Me an Angel" - Turning point in songwriting career, 1990 / Cidny discusses 1989 MCA Album, "Cindy Bullens" / More about Send Me an Angel" and new songwriting approach / Nashville beckons / Emmylou Harris / Radney Foster / Bill Lloyd / Embraced in Nashville: "Saved my musical soul"
1:00:45 - Horry-Georgetown Technical College Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Casey King / Cidny's story / 45 years clean and sober
1:02:44 - Forthcoming memoir, "TransElectric"/ 50 years of journals a blessing and a curse
1:05:26 - Wrapping up Part One / "Walkin' Through This World" by Cidny Bullens from his 2020 album of the same name.
In this episode Roger tells Chris about a guy they knew who stayed at the Magic Hotel (now the Magic Castle Hotel) and was so impressed with his experience there that he later named his restaurant in Tokyo after the address of the hotel. They also discuss their young lives in Crestline, a small burg in Southern California's San Bernardino Mountains and talk about music, Catholicism and much more - including a newly-digitized song from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Last Day on Earth" by Chris Yale - performed by the band Yale at the Bla Bla Cafe in Studio City, CA - circa 1980.
3:03 - Greetings and about the song / This episode is our age and Chris' mic / Elisabeth Kübler-Ross
4:08 - Besetting sin / Confession / Catholicism / The other side of the cross / Frankie Goes to Hollywood / "Besotting" sin
6:25 - The two China Clubs in Hollywood
7:30 - Kozo Matsumoto / China Club Restaurant, early 1980s / Smithsonian Magazine article - go to "Burgers" section to find Matsumoto's story and reference to the Magic Hotel / Matsumoto's restaurant
14:15 - Chris' dream about the Magic Hotel / Lucid dreaming / The vending machines
15:57 - Dreaming of Crestline, CA / The school buses / The music on Bus 19
17:10 - The songs we remember from Bus 19 - circa 1974/1975
19:37 - Moving around versus staying put as kids / "Silvio" by Bob Dylan
21:40 - Roger is a Dylan late adopter / Revisiting Jackson Browne / Gram Parsons biography by Ben Fong-Torres
23:00 - More Catholicism / Catechism
23:38 - Latest gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
24:30 - "Seinfeld" / "Curb Your Enthusiasm" / "The Blacklist" / Megan Boone / "Yellowstone" on Peacock / SiriusXM: To ditch or not to ditch
25:56 - "Paul McCartney: The Life" by Philip Norman / Spotify: Neil Young versus Joe Rogan
27:32 - Parting shots / Latency issues while recording this episode / Carolina Forest versus Myrtle Beach
The twins try recording from their respective home studios and talk about everything from Roger's appearance in a viral TikTok video to the fact that cigars are no longer sold at Winston Churchill's estate - as well as ramblings about The Beatles, Orson Welles, Harlan Ellison and much more - including a recently unearthed musical gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Come Alone" by Chris Yale performed by the band, Yale, at the Bla Bla Cafe, Studio City, CA, circa 1980
3:40 - Greetings / About this episode's recording approach / Roger went viral on his daughter's TikTok
6:00 - No more cigars at Chartwell
8:15 - Reactions to Moderna booster
8:54 - Recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / PreSonus Studiolive 16 / Yamaha AW2816
11:40 - Jim Bailey / Philip Bailey / Steve Bailey
12:11 - About "Come Alone" and more / Going alone
14:51 - Chris's 1976 Datsun 280Z
15:57 - Ralph Ellison "Invisible Man" / Confusing Ralph Ellison with Harlan Ellison / H.G. Wells "The Invisible Man" / Synopsis of Ellison book / Little Free Library
19:42 - Roger forgives himself
20:35 - "Owner of a Lonely Heart" / Trevor Horn / The Flintstones
21:30 - "Paul McCartney: The Life" by Philip Norman / "Get Back" documentary / "McCartney 3,2,1"
22:20 - John versus Paul / Chris versus Roger
23:03 - More about "Get Back" / Neil Aspinall / Mal Evans / Michael Linsdsay-Hogg / Is Hogg Orson Welles' son? / Sir Denis Eton-Hogg in "This Is Spinal Tap" / "Citizen Kane"
25:27 - "Being the Ricardos" / "Belfast"
25;28 - Parting shots / Skype Issues / Confusing dead guys
After a brief hiatus, the twins are back - discussing an old tall tale, Chris' trips out of the country, Roger's road trip to the mountains, time with Chris' family, Roger's first-ever 5K, recent gigs and more, including a newly digitized gem from the audio archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Defiance" by Chris Yale - Performed by Yale (first band) at the Bla Bla Cafe in Studio City, CA., circa 1980.
3:34 - Greetings and about the song
4:44 - Roger's Big Lie / Apologies to Roger's middle-school best friend Glen Ross / Raquel Welch
7:14 - Chris' two trips out of the country / Dominican Republic / Turks and Caicos / Airport Craziness over Thanksgiving Weekend / Casa De Campo / The "Island Treats" guy in Turks
11:16 - Roger's trip to the mountains of Southwest Virginia with Brenda / Dr. Grabow factory in Sparta, N.C. / Privy Races in Independence, VA / Shithouse Rickshaws
13:25 - Most recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Upcoming gigs
14:19 - Hanging with Chris' family: Miles, Elijah, Katie, Bill, Betsy and Martha / Miles warmed up to Roger
15:22 - Roger ran a 5K / The Market Common Myrtle Beach / Doug Shaw Stadium / Foot is still sore
17:22 - Franz Cough-ca
18:20 - Katie and Bill's 5K in Wilmington, NC
18:43 - Running into the Slushers at the airport
19:07 - Not Podfade Away
19:51 - Chris' current podcast recording situation / Mix-Minus / Roger wants a standalone multitrack recorder / Mr. Spock is a Logic Pro / Chris' middle-school best friend Daryl Macias
21:48 - Pooch-A-Mania event at The Market Common Myrtle Beach / WAVE 104.1 / Scott Mann / Scott Hyman / Myrtle Beach PD K-9 Unit / Killer Chihuahuas
24:43 - Parting shots
Hi everybody!
Just a quick note to let you know that we’ll be back soon. Our gig schedule and separate upcoming trips this month have made it necessary for us to push back our next podcast session to early November.
Thanks for “staying tuned.” This is a blast for us and we hope you have enjoyed listening so far.
Stay safe,
The Yale Brothers
The twins talk about the positive energy at recent gigs, performing in the moment and assorted albums from Dylan to Springsteen to Yes. They recall their friendship with actor Joe Maher, discuss a friend's master's thesis on acting and much more, including a live recording from their first-ever gig with their first band.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Drag Strip Blues" by Chris Yale - Performed by Yale- Bla-Bla Cafe Los Angeles circa 1980
4:21 - Greetings and about the song / John C. Dvorak / Andy Gibb Concert Miami 1970s / Hollywood Professional School
6:21 - Roger's son Wes' and daughter-in-law Leigh's first wedding anniversary / Chris' daughter Katie married six years to Bill / National Daughter's Day / Katie and Taylor (Roger's daughter)
9:07 - Judgy
9:28 - Latest gigs / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Acoustic fly rig and looper / Timing / "Thunder Road" - Springsteen / Yes, "Close to the Edge" / Springsteen, "Born to Run" album
15:27 - Bob Dylan, "Springtime in New York" / "Infidels" / "Slow Train Coming" / "Shot of Love" / Sly Dunbar and Robbie Shakespeare / Rolling Thunder Revue / "Echo in the Canyon"
19:15 - Chris' scratch-offs / More Yes / "Owner of a Lonely Heart" / Trevor Horn / Synclavier / Fairlight / Van Halen, "And the Cradle Will Rock" intro
21:50 - "I happen to know..."
22:15 - Hanging with Joe Maher / Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / "Heaven Can Wait" / Chevy Chase / Ken Howard / Yamashiro / "The Natural" / Chinese Theatre / Flip-flop problems / Richard Nielson / Julie Christie
26:35 - Love it or leave it?
32:17 - Elizabeth Gilbert, "Big Magic" / Lefsetz podcast / Broken Record podcast / Malcolm Gladwell podcast / Pushkin Industries / Our friend Chris Dell's postgrad thesis: "The Collision: The Reintroduction of Core-Shamanic Techniques for Character Building in Theatrical Production" / Meisner / Stanislavski / Strasberg / Uta Hagen / Stella Adler / Jerzy Grotowski /
34:06 - Steven Adler / Obama, "A Promised Land" / "Every Little Step" documentary about "A Chorus Line" revival
36:00 - Parting shots / Tony Perkins teaser
The twins unearth another gem from the cassette archive and then fall headlong into the maelstrom - discussing everything from recent gigs in Myrtle Beach, Paul Anka, Chrissie Hynde and Garth Brooks to authors, show tunes, a really cool park in Miami and much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Answer Me" by Chris Yale circa 1988
4:17 - Greetings and about the song / Stare Cat Sound, Glendale, CA / Ian Talcroft / Steve Kobashigawa
6:00 - "It's a Rock Thing" - English guys singing Southern / Blues and Country origins
6:31 - Garth Brooks documentary - part 2 / Quitting music
7:51 - Shout-out to our friend Carl McClain - thanks for loaning us your P.A. head.
8:29 - Latest House of Blues gig - very enthusiastic crowd / Early gigs versus late gigs / Latest LuLu's gig - great mix
10:40 - "I got pretty good" / Chrissie Hynde / The Pretenders / Lemmy couldn't score with Chrissie
11:44 - "I Want To Be Your Man" - Roger (Troutman) / Peter Tosh with Stones / Ron Wood albums
12:52 - Matheson Hammock Miami / Raleigh Chopper bicycle / Matt Ross / Dixie Highway (U.S. 1)
14:15 - Roger "ran away" from home twice / Mom's soap operas
15:45 - Novellas / David Leavitt, "Arkansas" / Little Free Library / Oscar Wilde
17:45 - The time Dad didn't show up
19:05 - Random show tunes / "Pal Joey '78" with Lena Horne / Roger working out to "Evita"
19:54 - Roger's training for a 5K / Advice from Buck and Jodie / Pacing and distance / Stan Obrycki / Roger's son Wes' "pinky swear with Chris / "Pain Retains"
21:29 - California reports lowest COVID-19 rates in nation / California homelessness / Austin homelessness / Drunk Panhandlers outside Barney's Beanery Hollywood
26:44 - Roger's shroud of political correctness
26:57 - Paul Anka on Lefsetz podcast / More Anka / Anka chews out a musician about wardrobe / Buddy Rich rants on bus
31:08 - Our gig t-shirts
32:32 - Change afoot: Explosive growth growth in Myrtle Beach / Carolina Forest / Myrtle Beach natives / Transplants / Trans Plant / Dread Zeppelin / El Vez
35:22 - Parting shots / Five gigs in a week
The twins continue down their particular rabbit holes, from babbling about George Orwell and Aldous Huxley to sensory deprivation and memories about Crestline, California to mic placement, audio gear, our latest gigs and more - including an audio grab from a recent show.
Above: Art by Nancy Dickinson
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Famous Last Words" - by Chris Yale / Audio capture from show at North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina - July 17, 2021
4:05 - Greetings / George Orwell / Newspeak / More about the song
5:20 - Roger's mic placement issues
5:51 - "Interesting" is not a useful word choice / Brendan Wright
7:02 - Three gigs this week: House of Blues Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / Vocal strain?
8:39 - Paul McCartney sang with throat issues at a show Roger attended. He felt ripped off.
9:35 - More about the shows / LuLu's: QSC Speakers / Presonus StudioLive 16 / Chris' old Yamaha AW2816
10:35 - Scott Mann got us a gig / WAVE 104.1 / Pooch-A-Mania / Bookshop dogs and cats / Blue Bicycle Books Charleston / Austin Rocks - Jeffrey / Bill Cosby "Jeffrey" / Richard Pryor "The Wino and the Junkie"
13:14 - P.A. Issues
16:33 - The Elton John expert
19:00 - Paying our dues / Grateful Dead, "Blues for Allah"
19:19 - The brook in Crestline, CA / Jim Alden / Our names in the tree / Tripping / Lake Gregory / Corey Dickinson / Nancy Dickinson and The Daisy Patch / "Swish Delish"
23:14 - Goodwin's Market / Our first girlfriends, the Goodwin Twins / First Communion with the twins / Mark Mulkeen
24:30 - Annie Dillard, "The Writing Life" / "Life In Pieces" / "Dark Side of the Moon" documentary / "Dazed and Confused"
25:16 - Garth Brooks documentary part one / Is Garth a douche?
26:47 - More Newspeak / Orwell / Aldous Huxley / "Brave New World" / "Moksha" / "The Divine Within" / Throbbing Gristle / Undulating leaves / Isolation tanks / Stan Obrycki / "Altered States" / Sensory deprivation / Bob Morales / Rodgers and Hammerstein / "The King and I"
Parting shots / "Do the Work" by Steven Pressfield / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach / You can't go back / "Look Homeward, Angel" / Thomas Wolfe / "You Can't Go Home Again"
The Yale Brothers discuss the passing of Charlie Watts, postponed KISS shows, upcoming shows of their own and more - including awkward moments at the drive-thru, Emotional Intelligence, overthinking, dreaming of bygone apartments - and another digitized song from the cassette archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Watching Her Eyes" by Chris Yale and Steve Kobashigawa circa 1981
4:45 - Greetings and about the song / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Tascam Portastudio 144
6:40 - RIP Charlie Watts
7:24 - About KISS' Raleigh cancellation / Live Nation
9:38 - Upcoming Yale Brothers shows at House of Blues Myrtle Beach
10:08 - Labor Day Weekend in Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
11:09 - David Bowie was pissed at MTV about the absence of Black Music.
11:39 - COVID rages in Myrtle Beach / Our friend Bruno / COVID protocols in Montreal / COVID Passports
12:54 - Eggs Up Grill Myrtle Beach / Chris' breakfast at home
13:47 - "Christian and Roger Yale Hate to Wait" - Miami News early 1960s / What if we recreated the photo now and ask photographer Scott Smallin to snap it?
15:09 - Golf carts in Myrtle Beach / Myrtle Beach Marathon / L.A. Marathon / Traffic snarls / Roger's upcoming 5K with friend Stan Obrycki / Chris' bike rides
17:35 - Morning Pages / Julia Cameron / "The Artist's Way" / Elizabeth Gilbert / "Big Magic" / "Eat Pray Love" / Chris Dell / Rob Bell
19:08 - Evangelical culture / Big church / Big religion / Money, power and votes / Bodhi Tree Los Angeles
20:35 - Taylor's Irland and England trip / NYC Subway flooding / Peaky Blinder Pub Birmingham
21:48 - Chris' awkward moments at the drive-thru / Order anxiety
24:05 - Awkward ordering at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / To tip or not to tip / Roger's overthinking / Larry David Moments
25:55 - It's Mom's fault / Who favors whom?
27:51 - Can Emotional Intelligence get in the way? / People pleasing
29:09 - Little Free Library / Wallace Stegner / "Crossing to Safety" / "All the Little Live Things"
31:07 - "Loudermilk" on Prime Video / Eric, "the San Francisco Treat"
32:04 - Dreaming about our old apartment in Glendale / Chris worked at the Glendale Holiday Inn (now Days Inn)
34:03 - Three gigs this week: House of Blues Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina
34:45 - Parting shots / Broadway at the Beach
The twins talk about everything from KISS, twins and more bygone Hollywood restaurants to Roger's newspaper work, music producers, songwriters, sonic footprints, the shrinking collective attention span and much more, including another find from the cassette archive.
Photo: Yale Brothers with Pascal Srabian (RIP), circa 1981
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "You Got Something" by Roger Yale circa 1981
3:53 - Greetings and about the song / Tascam 144 Portastudio / Heading for cancellation / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa
6:21 - Parachute jumpsuits / Les McKeown
7:36 - Argent / Rod Argent / The Zombies / Darien Sahanaja / "Hold Your Head Up" / "Liar" / Pat McLaughlin / "Wrong Number" / Allen Toussaint / Mitchell Froom / Crowded House / Capitol Records / Music producers and sonic footprints
11:11 - The H. Salt incident / Hollywood and Vermont
12:29 - Ernie's Taco House, Las Palmas Avenue, Hollywood, 1970s / Ting Ho Restaurant, Highland Avenue / / The Italian Deli, Highland Avenue
14:30 - Three sets of twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Our friend Nicole's sisters, extremely identical / Twinsburg, Ohio
16:35 - Roger's 1988 Sportster / Pulled over for noise without a motorcycle license / Repossession / Chris' van repossession
18:50 - Roger's current newspaper work / Saying yes / Post and Courier
21:00 - Richard Pryor Wino Dealing with Dracula
21:37 - Making sure Chris isn't losing data / Robbie Robertson / "Sweet Fire of Love" with U2
22:45 - Upcoming KISS show in Raleigh, August 28 / KISS residency in Las Vegas / End of the World Tour / Farewell tours
24:09 - Our friends on Hollywood Boulevard / Manny became Sophia / London Fish and Chip House / Parties at Franklin and Orange apartment
26:38 - When swingers ask you if you party...
27:25 - The problem with hanging out
29:30 - Showering with Sade / Keeping up with the feeds / Pocket / Feedly / Apple Podcasts
31:06 - People don't read / The collective attention span
31:50 - Parting shots / The cassette archive / Chris is going to fix his mother-in-law's computer
Celebrating 50 episodes, the twins have a new twist on "Backward Masking." They also cover young Roger's infatuation with Tatum O'Neal, old Hollywood haunts, taking things for granted, first cars, first band, old-school entertainers and much more - including a newly-digitized gem from the cassette archive.
Photo: The Yale Brothers with Pascal Srabian (RIP), circa 1980
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Be My Star" by Roger Yale, circa 1981
2:57 - Greetings and about the song / LACC Music Department / Rog had a crush on Tatum O'Neal / Chris says Rog was stalking her. Roger disagrees.
5:40 - Excited about Episode 50 / "Grave Before Shave" / Neptune Society / Have we learned anything about podcasting in 50 episodes? / Logic Pro / Libsyn
7:50 - "Star 80" / "All That Jazz"
9:40 - Growing up in Hollywood / We took it for granted / The vantage point from our apartment at Franklin and Orange / Stoner Window / The red room
13:23 - Walks with Dad and Uncle Roger / Practice space at The Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) / Chris biking over Laurel Canyon / Mystic Sound / Unlimited possibilities
14:41 - Vagabond Theatre / Old Movies / "The Lady Vanishes"
15:28 - Copper Penny / The Old Spaghetti Factory / Old Masonic Temple Hollywood Boulevard / Roger's play reading with Robert Romanus
16:31 - A handful of water / Old Testament warriors
16:55 - Freedom and first cars / Stealing Dad's cars / The Kinks at the Universal Amphitheater / Chris' wreck in Miami / Fullerton / Crestline / Chris' van / Roger's Fiat 128 / Fiat money / Bill Nye / Puns
21:55 - Roger that / Roger with a small "r" / Roger Healey / Barbara Eden / Blinked into Siberia / Agnes Moorehead / "Roger Morehead" / Tallulah Bankhead / Frank Iwanski / "Irene" with Debbie Reynolds, Ruth Warrick, Patsy Kelly and Hans Conried / "I'll See You Again" by Noel Coward
25:22 - Old-school performers, crew, musicians / Quentin Crisp / Coke Escovedo / "The Naked Civil Servant" / John Hurt / Crisp's lecture at The Westwood Playhouse
28:15 - Roger's daughter Taylor is in Ireland and she's going to England
28:50 - What we would have done differently
29:55 - "Backward Masking" in the COVID era / PMRC / Tipper Gore
32:03 - How many episodes will we do / "The Wreck of the Hesperus" / Ship of Theseus / George Thorogood
34:35 - Is your mind's eye dry?
36:00 - Chris hanging with grandsons Miles and Elijah / Pascal's messed-up English words / Pascal's punk mentality / Splitting up our first band
36:54 - Parting shots
The twins jump around like BBs in a skillet, talking about their first trip to Hollywood, their early decision to play music, songwriting as teens, Chris' murderous cats and more - including another digitized gem from the tape archive.
ABOVE: The Yale Brothers at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach (Photo: Tony Bates)
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "End of the Line" by Chris Yale circa 1983
3:50 - Greetings and about the song / Corey Hart / Grieving the loss of the first attempt at this episode / ABBA versus Drive-By Truckers / "Olly oxen free" and misheard lyrics
5:38 - First trip to Hollywood circa 1967 / Television City / "Dean Martin Show" set / "Petticoat Junction" set / Breakaway glass / Barnsdall Art Park smell / Griffith Park
7:09 - The Hollywood Palace / Paul Revere and the Raiders / "You know you grew up in Hollywood because..." / Burgeoning hippies / Summer of Love
8:29 - The early decision to play music / 221 Darfo Drive, Crestline, CA / Middle school band
9:30 - The band that never was / Pearl drum set / KORG Poly Ensemble P / Matt Ross / Ramon Arronte
10:06 - Learning to play / Early covers / Early songwriting / The same vibe now
11:41 - Busted by Sarah Ballantine at Hollywood Professional School / Carl Ballantine / Molly Ballantine / Sportsmen's Lodge / "Phantom of the Paradise"
13:05 - More about loss of data
13:24 - Twin vibe / Twin fights / Laurel and Hardy / Abbott and Costello / Uncle Roger and Dad fighting
14:23 - More about first Hollywood trip / Tom Mix's house / The Judy Lynn Apartments, Carlton Way, Hollywood
15:10 - Roles on this podcast / Roger on the fringes of journalism?
15:43 - Moving and changing schools / Lasting friendships / Silver Bluff Elementary Miami / St. Hugh Catholic School Miami / Jim Alden / Mark Mulkeen
16:33 - Will the KISS tour get canceled again? / The state of COVID-19 / TAA Convention / Jagoffs on planes / Thomas Payne (in the ass)
19:03 - Chris' cats killed a squirrel / Spirit animals
21:02 - More about losing the first take / Meth lab test pilot / I'm in you (continue) / Roger Dollarhide / Paramount Recording Studios
22:08 - More about "End of the Line" / Steve Kobashigawa /Jeff Morrison / Scarlet
24:00 - "Atypical"
The twins discuss the fun they had at the Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood when they were growing up. Also: Chris' time as a magician, PA systems, basses and other music gear, Chris' old job at Capitol records, Roger's reentry into the newspaper business and more - including another newly-digitized vintage song from the cassette archives.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Living in the Wasteland" by Chris Yale - Circa 1981
3:38 - Greetings and about the song / Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Hondo bass / Writing on bass / Carvin B4 bass
6:14 - Roger's ear is clogged / WAXY- Miami / Debrox
7:53 - "Please don't let me forget" / Tickler file
8:50 - Roger is back in the newspaper business / Post and Courier / Jay Rodriguez / Brookgreen Gardens Story / Chef Nicholas Huckabee (Great American Seafood Cook-Off) story / Roger's blog
12:00 - Chris scored some free food from his friend Leo / Chili's gift card
13:05 - Our "newspaper morgue" at the Magic Hotel (Now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood / Old newsprint smell / Mimeograph smell
14:00 - Chris' time in graphic communications at Capitol Records / Stripping and platemaking / Kevin Yuruki
16:20 - Practicing music in vacant rooms at the Magic Hotel / Realistic PA / First Carvin six-channel PA / Trips to Carvin headquarters in Escondido / Bi-amp process / Our current old Carvin PA / Carvin combo amp
20:51 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Chris is learning on the house PA / The Cartwheel Kid (one-person mosh pit) / Birthday ladies
23:06 - Chris was a magician / Robert Harbin / Mark Wilson / The old magic gear / Loss / Chris lost his Colibri Morpheus lighter
26:35 - Chris was the self-appointed house detective at the Magic Hotel / The billy club / Souvenir bats / Roger misuses "nomenclature" / More loss / "The price of admission" / Chris lost another ten minutes / More about Debrox and earwax / Deox-it / Parting shots
Songs that come to you complete in five minutes. Remembering Jackie Mason. A bygone ABC pilot. Marilyn on a lighter. Crying at rock concerts. Books, movies and much more - including a newly-digitized song from the cassette archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Mine Again" by Roger Yale - Version number 2
3:46 - Greetings and about the song / The idea came during a walk / Paramount Recording Studios / Roger Dollarhide (RIP) / Steve Kobashigawa / Nick Walusko (RIP)
5:05 - The hissing cat at Broadway at the Beach / Beefs with animals? / Chris' chihuahuas
7:17 - Jackie Mason dead at 93 / "The Best of Times" pilot / Nicholas Cage / Crispin Glover / Marc Copage / Janet Robin / The audition / George Schlatter / Don Mischer
9:59 - Schlatter at The Masquers Club Hollywood / Foster Brooks
10:34 - Working as extras in Hollywood / Friends working as extras in Myrtle Beach / "Eastbound and Down" / "Magic Mike XXL"
11:23 - Dissing Jackson Browne, Eric Clapton and Sammy Hagar
12:43 - When Hitchcock dissed Spielberg / Henry Rollins dissing a fan in Myrtle Beach
14:49 - People dissing California / The Orange Curtain / Factions burning down the world
16:33 - "Last Night of the World" by Bruce Cockburn
17:17 - Dave Matthews in Charlotte / Our South African heritrage / Johnny Klegg and Savuka / Opening for a DMB tribute at House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Chris lost 10 minutes
19:10 - KISS coming to Raleigh on August 28 / Roger's ticket scare / Safetix / Chris' Springsteen day
20:45 - KISS in 1977 / 1980s no makeup / World Domination Tour / Rock the Nation Tour / Eric Singer / Tommy Thayer
21:45 - Rock shows are like church / Chris crying at Springsteen / Roger crying at Elton John Barclay's Center
21:46 - Chris' Marilyn Monroe lighter
22:42 - Rockers aging out / Stones new tour and ticket prices / More Elton
25:22 - Roger's lyric tablet / Lucinda Williams / Paul Grimshaw
26:51 - "Uncle Frank" / "Loudermilk" / "Brittany Runs a Marathon"
27:27 - Bill Nye book / Little Free Library / Dave Ramsey book / "The Letters of Noel Coward" / "The Tao of Pooh" / "The Te of Piglet"
30:11 - Tao Jones
30:26 - Dave Slusher Evil Genius Chronicles / Investing / FIRE Movement
31:10 - Chris' digitizing efforts / Frank Horn
32:22 - Parting shots / Lily Tomlin / Jill Abramson / Vocal fry / "Slide Some Oil To Me"
A venerable Myrtle Beach gift store turns 75. Isolation tanks. Exploring London in 1980. Concert memories in Los Angeles, wah pedals, regrets and so much more - including a deep dive into the cassette archive.
Above: Missy, who was constipated.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Caprice" by Chris Yale - circa 1981
3:50 - Greetings and about the song / Original band, Yale / KROQ / Tascam 144 Portastudio / Eurythmics / Springsteen Nebraska
5:34 - The Gay Dolphin turns 75 / Seashells / Tchotchkes / Shell wholesalers / Beachwear Stores / Hermit crab hermitage / Are crabs still a thing?
7:58 - The crow at our last gig / Chris' spirit animal
9:00 - More Gay Dolphin
9:35 - Hobcaw Barony / Legends in Concert / Brookgreen Gardens / Vereen Memorial Gardens / Wishing Tree / Goat Island / Bird Island
12:08 - Roger's daughter went to Ireland, but her luggage stayed in Amsterdam
12:33 - Isolation tanks / "Altered States" / Sensory deprivation / Ego / Tripping in the tank
15:09 - Tours of the mind
15:22 - Exploring London in 1980 / The White House Hotel / The stolen Gideons Bible / Dad wouldn't let us go to Paris / Gilles and Maryanne Kohler / Our gone-too-soon friend Pascal and his guitar sound
18:14 - Les Pauls versus Strats and Telecasters
19:23 - Roger wanted to hitchhike to NYC at 18 - working odd jobs in towns along the way / Chris' similar plans
20:23 - Losses and regrets / X-Men number 1 and other comics
23:35 - Artists we've seen the most / Springsteen / Elton John
24:10 - Sparks at the Greek / Tears for Fears at the Forum
24:47 - The Roxy / Chris with The Real Impossibles / Marc Platt / Kenny Rankin / Thomas Dolby / Bob Seger / The Rainbow
25:57 - "Hey baby - we have beer and pot." / Guilty by association / Asking for the sale
27:44 - Chris' earbuds / Revolver / Rubber Soul / No music while reading or writing
28:55 - More Beatles talk
29:50 - Crybaby Wah Pedal / Wah Wah Watson / More Beatles
30:52 - COVID-19 is going up again
32:55 - Stupid motivational sayings / Bob Dylan "Man of Peace" / "Curators" / 15 Inside / The hubris of youth / Entitled little pricks / Grownups suck
35:48 - Our gig at North Myrtle Beach RV Resort and Dry Dock Marina / More about the place / What goes on in those campers
37:04 - "If I Had a Rocket Launcher" / Bruce Cockburn's last name is not pronounced like it's spelled, and no wonder / Dick Butkus / Unfortunate last names
39:38 - Missy was constipated / Parting shots / Roger lost a bet / "Life By the Drop" / "Key To the Highway" / James Coburn
This episode, Chris compares two versions of one of his songs before the twins jump down a rabbit hole - talking life at 58, songwriting, recording studio shenenigans, the absurdity of drinking while tripping - and so much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Something I Remember" by Chris Yale - Original Reflector version
4:11 - Greetings and about the song
5:50 - "Something I Remember" by Chris Yale - from the album, "Well Enough Alone"
9:06 - Cutting the baby in half / Old Testament
10:01 - Happy birthday to us - thoughts on 58 / Peter Murphy / "Deep"
11:19 - Living in the now / Wiser? / Demons / Innocuous Nigel / Is Rog smart? / The new cash registers
13:35 - On songwriting / Writing fast / Ideas sometimes just show up
14:36 - Gordon Lightfoot documentary / More about Lightfoot
15:39 - More about songwriting
16:15 - Recording studio experiences / Mystic Sound / Steve Fuji / Paramount / Roger Dollarhide / Ian Whitcomb / Lee Allen / Big Jay McNeely / Ronnie Barron
18:12 - More about Dollarhide / Kepex / Paul Rothchild / Paramount tape vault / Master tapes / Old tapes
20:16 - Echo Sound / Lee Newman / Leon Russell / Paradise Records / Paid in weed / Skyline Studios Topanga Canyon
20:16 - People think Chris is a stoner / "Flower" / "Flowers for Algernon" / Ian Talcroft / Sound Image North Hollywood / Glen Matisoff / Peder Rudling / Soldano Amplifier / Tripping at A&M Studios / Berlin video shoot on Soul Train sound stage
24:43 - The absurdity of drinking while tripping or tweaking
25:21 - Hamster International Records / KROQ / EFX Studios
26:12 - Are we who we thought we would be?
27:20 - Chris knows how Rog is
27:45 - More Lightfoot
28:26 - Little Free Libraries / Bobby Rydell autobiography / Tommy Steele / Dion is not dead
32:31 - "The Tao of Pooh" & "The Te of Piglet" / Taosim
34:03 - "Bosch" / Titus Welliver / Michael Connelly
35:08 - "Nobody" with Bob Odenkirk / Neil Diamond / "Loudermilk"
Recorded on July 4th, the twins discuss their recent back-to-back shows in Myrtle Beach and go deep about growing up in Coconut Grove, Florida - with side trips about fireworks, Bob Dylan shows, cats, cycling adventures, twins and more - including another tune from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "A Different Light" by Chris Yale - Original Reflector version
3:54 - Greetings and about the song / Ian Talcroft / Stare Cat Sound Glendale, CA
5:41 - Back-to-back gigs / Cats at Chris' house / The fox (for real) outside Roger's place / "Fleabag" / Phoebe Waller-Bridge
8:08 - The Old Bull and Bush Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Schlepping our P.A.
10:00 - St. Hugh School Coconut Grove / Katie Casey, "That's a bunch of baloney" / The English New Yorker / Potential soccer riot
12:11 - Fireworks we had as kids / Bottle rocket battles / The cannons / "The Gat" / Our blank guns / "Sing Me Back Home"
17:22 - Death row and capital punishment / "Jail or 'Nam" / Compulsory military service
18:32 - Pineapples and swingers
20:08 - Psychic pain / "Grasping the heel" / More about twins / the twin neighbor kid
21:31 - 2340 Tigertail Court, our childhood home in Coconut Grove / Crabs / The sinkhole / Buried treasure / The 1920s land boom in and around Miami / Our brother sold the house
23:44 - About Coconut Grove / Jim Morrison obscenity / The Doors / Dinner Key Auditorium / Biscayne Bay / Dixie Highway / "The Hippie Place" / Lum's / Coconut Grove Pharmacy / Eskill's Clog Shop / Grove Folk Facebook Page / Dad's coffee houses / Briarwood Singers / Revisiting the Grove / Mercy Hospital / Vizcaya / MontyTrainer's / 1920s hurricane / Coral Gables / Silver Bluff / Silver Bluff Elementary / Hurricane Carter
28:56 - Bob Dylan / "Rolling Thunder Revue" / Dylan and Tom Petty at Irvine Meadows / Dylan and Willie Nelson in Myrtle Beach / Dylan at the Greek Theatre Los Angeles / G.E. Smith
32:30 - "Echo in the Canyon" / Laurel Canyon
33:00 - Chris' bicycling adventures over Laurel Canyon and to San Diego with David Valentine and Jim Alden
36:07 - Roger freaked out Miles (Chris' toddler grandson) / Rubber Ducky Shark / Elijah (Chris' older grandson)
28:23 - Parting shots / "Only Yesterday" / Bruce Tegner / Wallace Stegner / Stegosaurus / California Blonde amp (SWR) / When freebase became crack
The twins discuss whether or not you can go home again and the difference between memories, dreams and reality when it comes to places. But there's more, including Chris' take on songwriting, owning music versus streaming, the early days of blogging and podcasting - and another original tune from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Cuttin' Me Loose" by Chris Yale
3:45 - Greetings and about the song / Solipsism / Ed Dennis / Atlantic Coast Recording
5:07 - "Nice little songs" / Chris on songwriting
6:41 - Manassas / Stephen Stills / Tip-of-the-iceberg versus going deep
7:33 - Early days of blogging and podcasting / Charleston Post and Courier / Dave Slusher / Evil Genius Chronicles / Roger's blog
9:18 - Managing content queues / Owning music / vinyl
12:00 - Martha Davis / The Motels / Cyndi Lauper / Blue Angel / Sinead O'Connor / Stan Ridgway / Wall of Voodoo
13:48 - Suzanne Vega / Mom's Vega / Chris' lost suitcase
14:33 - Thomas Wolfe / "You Can't Go Home Again" / Can we ever really go home again? / Would Chris go back to Hollywood? / Dreams and memories versus reality / Hollywood views / Yamashiro
17:17 - Missing Hollywood / Random coolness / The deer at Franklin and Orange / Hollywood Hills
18:35 The journey isn't over yet
18:58 - More about the archive / Cassettes / Digitizing
19:15 - Original music versus cover gigs / Balance / Embodying the music
20:33 - The milk of human kindness and "Somerset Coward"
21:49 - Saving stuff to sift through later / Missing letters between Mom and Dad / Secrets
23:57 - Parting shots / Johnny Mercer's "Alphabet Soup" insult / Paraquat Kelley
The twins run the gamut from Father's Day to misheard lyrics to tripping in Hollywood, sobriety, books, stolen Ray-Bans and much more - including an unearthed and digitized song from a 1989 gig at what became The Viper Room in Hollywood.
Above: Twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "I Call Your Name" by Chris Yale - live at The Central (Viper Room) Hollywood, 1989
3:13 - Greetings and about the song / Kirby and the Gators / More about The Central
5:40 - Tempo and live performance / Playing in the moment
7:13 - Misheard lyrics / "Sweet Caroline" / Neil Diamond / J. Cole / R.E.M. / Michael Stipe
11:54 - Being misunderstood / Roger's blog post about that
12:43 - Father's Day, again / Our adult children / Chris' son-in-law / Chris' grandchildren Elijah and Miles / Dad Carl Yale / Dead Dads
15:00 - Dad taught us how to read / "We Three" & "We Three and Scottie" / Dad sang to us / Tap lessons
16:30 - Sobriety
17:58 - Tripping in Hollywood / Our friend the parking meter
19:41 - Dad died on our 21st birthday / "Man's Search for Meaning" / Viktor Frankl
21:07 - Loaning books that were never returned / Joe Smith, "Off the Record" / "South Carolina: A History" by Walter Edgar
22:29 - The stolen Ray-Bans / The almost-stolen Walkman / Good money after bad
25:27 - On taking action
26:28 - The baby twins at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Twin life / Dad would be 106 / Superstition, pseudo-religiosity and flawed thinking
30:15 - "Only Yesterday: An Informal History of the 1920s" by Frederick Lewis Allen and Guy Foster / "Crossing to Safety" by Wallace Stegner / "The Letters of Noel Coward" edited by Barry Day / Book Buyers Charlotte / Cats in bookstores / Blue Bicycle Books Charleston / "White Bicycles: Making Music in the 1960s" by Joe Boyd
34:00 - Digitizing
34:09 - Being foiled in dreams
35:48 - Andre De Shields
Frank Horn is more like a brother than our nephew. He's been busy with his career as an assistant Director on television commercials for nearly 30 years. This conversation runs the gamut from Miami to Hollywood, a life in the business, early influences, and the origins of a "crazy" board game - plus a newly-digitized song from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Is That What It Is" by Roger Yale
4:09 - Greetings and about the song / Stax/Volt Records
5:28 - About Frank Horn
7:38 - Greetings, Frank / State of affairs in Miami and Myrtle Beach
9:20 - Chasing roller coasters
11:47 - University of Miami Film Program / Frank's Career in production / Film business versus music business
13:00 - Choosing film over architecture
13:51 - Making movies as a kid
16:42 - Student films / "Future Tense" / Universal Studios Florida Backlot
17:49 - More about Frank's career / Moving to Hollywood, 1992 / Universal Studios Hollywood - working on the backlot / "Airwolf" / Spielberg and Amblin Entertainment
20:02 - Moving back to Miami, 1997 / Getting into commercial work
21:01 - Role of the Assistant Director
22:07 - Shooting / Production trips
23:25 - "Miami Vice" / Key Biscayne / Virginia Key / "Jimbo's" / "Wild Things" / "Who Let the Dogs Out" / Baha Men
26:25 - Miami as a production hub / "Gentle Ben" / "Flipper" / Greenwich Studios / Ivan Tors
27:50 - Childhood trip to Universal Studios Hollywood / early influences and "that's fake" / Carl Yale - "Papa Carl" / More about working on that backlot / "Jurassic Park"
30:58 - Still a fan: Quirky celebrity encounters / Whitney Houston's makeup chair / Bobby Brown / Iggy Pop / Debbie Harry / Sick Stooges / Iggy and the Stooges
36:07 - Hollywood experience / Sierra Bonita Avenue and Sunset Boulevard / Rock 'n' Roll Ralphs / Rock 'n' Roll Denny's / The Drinking Denny's / Gower Gulch
38:26 - Burbank / Screenland Drive / Warner Brothers Ranch
40:17 - "Hollywood Lives" / Incubus / Jamie Kennedy
40:54 - Settling in Miami
41:40 - Coconut Grove / St. Hugh Catholic School
42:06 - "Star Wars" at the Chinese Theatre / More like brothers / More about "Papa" Carl Yale's influence / "Annie" at the Pantages Theatre / The Magic Hotel and the switchboard
45:08 - Origins of Crazy Trans: The Game of Loco-Motion / About the game
48:06 - The Crazy Trains jingle sessions
52:49 - Marketing Crazy Trains
56:25 - Parting shots and future plans
57:37 - Crazy Trains jingle
The twins welcome author, academic and rocker Joe Oestreich, a founding member of Columbus, Ohio-based band Watershed.
Joe is currently chair of the English Department at Coastal Carolina University. He's got four books under his belt and his shorter work has been widely published.
Watershed is still rocking after more than three decades. Joe discusses the band's trajectory, lasting friendships, Jim Steinman, Cheap Trick and much more. Included: Watershed's new single.
Photo: Joe Oestreich by Easton Selby
SHOW NOTES
0:00 - "Bleeding on the Blank Page" - by Watershed
3:05 - About Joe Oestreich / Coastal Carolina University / Watershed
5:35 - "Hitless Wonder" / "Rock On, Mr. Chips" / Andre Pope
8:55 - Greetings, Joe!
9:20 - Watershed 36 years in / "Extended Player" EP / About "Bleeding on the Blank Page" / The video shoot / Mike McDermott
12:25 - More Coastal Carolina University / Kate Faber Oestreich
13:35 - Early visits to South Carolina with Watershed / The Ohio State University / Rockafellas' Columbia / Art Boerke / Epic Records / "Twister" / Jim Steinman / The Smithereens / The Headroom Myrtle Beach
15:25 - House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Opening for Insane Clown Posse / Juggalos / The Scranton Incident
17:55 - More Coastal Carolina University / Children Beckett and Ellie / Tenure-track jobs in academia
18:55 - About creative nonfiction
22:05 - The origins of "Hitless Wonder" / Joe's academic journey / Becoming a writer
25:44 - "Partisans" / Van trouble in Mexico and the kindness of strangers
29:04 - "Lines of Scrimmage" (coauthored with Scott Pleasant)
31:11 - "Waiting to Derail" (coauthored with Thomas O'Keefe) / Ryan Adams and Whiskeytown / #MeToo allegations against Adams
33:58 - Watershed - going deep / Colin Gawel / Herb Schupp / Dave Masica / Watershed albums and other recorded works
37:08 - "Econoline" tours then and now / Chasing the next good song
38:50 - Watershed and Cheap Trick / Opening for Cheap Trick / Why Isn't Cheap Trick in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and eventual induction / Cheap Trick Soundman Bill Kozy / Detroit band Speedball
43:04 - Chris talks about Cheap Trick opening for KISS in Los Angeles, 1977.
44:41 - Watershed's Hollywood Experience / Continental Hyatt House (Riot House) / House of Blues Hollywood / Dan Aykroyd takes out the trash in a tux / Epic/Sony meeting
48:56 - Watershed and Jim Steinman / Richard Griffiths, Epic Records / David Sonnenberg / Downtime Bar Manhattan
53:50 - Reactions from Joe's students about Watershed
55:24 - Watershed stage setup
57:28 - Future plans in writing and music / Producer Tim Patalan / Sponge
59:12 - Shout-out to Elijah
The twins reunite with longtime friend, singer/songwriter Lee Newman at long last - chatting about everything from their times in Hollywood together and Lee's music and years of performing in Hollywood's top venues - to his legendary great-grandfathers Jimmy McHugh and Eddie Cantor, his friendship with Harry Nilsson and much more - including an original tune from Lee's archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Brown Eyed Boy" by Lee Newman
2:02 - Greetings and about Lee Newman / Eddie Cantor / Jimmy McHugh
5:40 - Welcome, Lee
6:33 - About "Brown Eyed Boy" / UCLA / Harry Nilsson / "The Point" / "Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In" / Dick Martin / Bill Bixby / "The Courtship of Eddie's Father"
9:10 - "Relatively Singing" / Original Cast Records
The Roxy / Whisky a Go Go
10:08 - "Merrily We Roll Along" by Eddie Cantor is best known as the theme for Warner Bros. Merrie Melodies cartoons.
11:29 - Growing up around great music - within the family and outside of it. / Nilsson's influence on Lee / Nilsson's stage fright / Working on "The Point" in Los Angeles in 1991 (Oblio) / Jimmy Webb / Nilsson's death
16:14 - Preaching the gospel of Nilsson at Hollywood High / Copper Penny / Bell Coffee Shop / Snow White Coffee Shop / "Liverpool"
17:18 - Meeting Lee for the first time / Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel / Our friend and bandmate, Pascal Srabian (RIP) / Early gigs with our band, Yale
18:45 - Lee as band manager for Yale / Winning the battle of the bands at Gazzarri's / Bill Gazzarri / More about the early days
21:53 - More Jimmy Webb / "Tunesmith: Inside the Art of Songwriting"
23:12 - Jimmy McHugh Music / Lucille Myers passes the torch to Lee
25:18 - Running Jimmy McHugh Music and what that entails
27:00 - About "I Can't Give You Anything But Love"
27:48 - About Jimmy McHugh / Gershwin and McHugh / The Piano / "I'm in the Mood for Love" / "On the Sunny Side of the Street" / McHugh in Hollywood / Timeline
34:31 - McHugh-related projects
35:15 - Eddie Cantor conquered every medium / Humanitarian - March of Dimes
36:24 - "Happy Together: The 60s Songbook" / SLK Records
Rod Stewart / Producer Richard Perry / Producer Lauren Wild / Sunset Plaza / "Happy Together" moment / May Pang / John Lennon's acoustic demo of "Help" as a ballad
42:20 - Sea change in the music business / Tower Records closure / Napster
44:27 - The fate of the Cinerama Dome
45:12 - Find Lee's music on Amazon, iTunes and at Amoeba Music Hollywood
45:40 - COVID-19 in Hollywood and Myrtle Beach / Dodger Stadium / Angel Stadium / Magic Castle Reopens / La Poubelle / More Magic Hotel memories / Robert Morse / Pantages Theatre / "Hamilton"
49:29 - Wrapping things up
The twins speculate about whether or not certain celebrities could be a-holes, but they turn the lens on themselves, too. Also in this episode: Taking mental breaks from listening to certain bands, "Big Lebowski" f-bombs, road trips, Ram Dass, Buckminster Fuller and much more - including another tune from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Angel of Mercy" by Chris Yale
3:39 - Greetings
4:42 - Is Chris an a-hole? / Self-talk & hurt feelings / Should Chris care?
7:55 - A-Hole or Not: The Game - in which we discuss more than two dozen celebrities that could be a-holes. But maybe it's just us. / Steve Miller's an a-hole, according to The Black Keys.
23:11 - Music we don't listen to much anymore - or stopped and then resumed / more potential a-holes
26:58 - F-bombs in "The Big Lebowski"
27:08 - Recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Pete Townshend knocks Abbie Hoffman off stage / Daltrey versus Townshend
28:40 - Bike week in Myrtle Beach / Gas Shortage
29:18 - Roger's mic placement issues and upcoming solo gig at Lulu's North Myrtle Beach / Solo anxiety
31:20 - Babysitting Miles
32:10 - Responses other than "you're welcome" / Removing the ego
33:10 - Ram Dass / Buckminster Fuller / "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg" by Joseph Chilton Pearce /Michael Benner / KLOS
36:31 - Stuckey's / "Them badges all the same, boy..." / Road trips
39:42 - Are we Yankees?
41:07 - "Desiderata"
42:18 - About "Angel of Mercy" / Still wondering if Chris is an a-hole
The twins' gabfest this week touches on System of a Down, Rick Rubin and Cheap Trick - Hollywood's wrecking ball casualties, tweakers, Bike Week in Myrtle Beach and much more - including a gem from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "The Story's End" by Roger Yale
3:16 - Greetings and about the song / Young people writing about love and loss
5:00 - Rick Rubin
5:55 - Broken Record Podcast / Malcolm Gladwell / Serj Tankian / System of a Down / "Toxicity"
7:06 - Brian Koppelman / The Moment Podcast / Tom Werman / Cheap Trick / Motley Crue / Molly Hatchet
8:09 - Dream Police / George Martin
8:41 - Sirius XM plays the same old stuff - the seep cuts are shallow / Curators
9:49 - People who want you to listen to stuff "right now"
11:02 - Our treasure trove of tapes and CDs / Dave Slusher
11:38 - Wherewithal / Motivation / Speed and so-called projects
12:38 - No tweakers allowed / Tweaking with John Blyth Barrymore
14:10 - More "Toxicity" / Serj Tankian / Armenian communities in Hollywood and Glendale, CA
14:15 - Alison Martino tweet / Vintage Los Angeles/ The fate of a block on the Sunset Strip: Viper Room / Terner's Liquor
16:04 - Wrecking ball casualties in Hollywood: Ranch Market & Old Spaghetti Factory / Hollywood Center project
16:49 - Roger's blog post about another casualty: Peyton Hall / Yashica MAT 124G / Leo Gorcey / Esther Williams / McLean Stevenson
21:04 - Dad had a carpeted bathroom and a cushioned toilet seat. We weren't fans.
21:53 - Garden of Allah Villas / Hollywood Blvd. as a residential address
22:39 - Roger's gold chain - a gift from Antonio
23:48 - Crossroads of the World / Blessed Sacrament School / Catholic college prep / Daniel Murphy High School / Yeshiva Aharon Yaakov-Ohr
24:48 - Surprised by family at last week's gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
25:53 - We lost 20 minutes of gold
26:45 - Bike Week in Myrtle Beach / "Welcome Bikers" / Beaver Bar / The Rat Hole / Suck Bang Blow / Indoor burnouts / David Allan Coe / HB Spokes
29:51 - KK Downing book / "Writing Creative Nonfiction" / Robert Lowell / Walter Martin, the Bible Answer Man
The twins discuss what drove them - what defined them when they were younger. Perhaps getting reconnected with that is the key to a more meaningful life now.
And Judas Priest, chemistry sets, Ken Kesey, Sherlock Holmes, stamps, comics and much more, including a gem from the archive.
PHOTO: Yale Brothers at House of Blues Myrtle Beach (PHOTO: Mike Heidtman)
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Chris messing around in GarageBand
1:41 - Greetings / K.K. Downing book / Judas Priest
2:45 - More about Downing / If you cut an old rocker's hair / Judas Priest / Rock 'n' Roll Church / Living After Midnight
4:28 - Remembering who we are / Buster and his cone / Sentient dog / Scientology
6:03 - Roger's blog post: Remember Who You Are
6:32 - "Clear" / Scientology and Chris' Scientologist girlfriend back in the day
7:07 - Roger reads part of his blog post: Remember Who You Are
9:34 - Comic shopping in Hollywood / Chris liked chemistry
9:45 - The Yale Brothers at 17
11:03 - Younger Chris: Sherlock Holmes / Chemistry sets / drums / Magic / Stamps / Secret Crime Fighting Service
11:23 - Chris' stamp collection / Mint never hinged / Old stamp collectors / Columbian Exposition versus Colombian Exposition
13:45 - Chemistry sets as presents
14:55 - Riffing on alchemy
15:25 - Chris' drums / First talks about playing music / Later talks about starting a band / The move to Los Angeles / School bands / Steve Kobashigawa and the glockenspiel
17:54 - Are we who we thought we would be?
18:11 - More from Roger's blog post / Our first band with Pascal Srabian / Bla Bla Cafe Studio City / Gazzarri's Hollywood / Lee Newman / Jimmy McHugh / Eddie Cantor
20:03 - Ditching at "Liverpool"
20:31 - More about Pascal (RIP) / Did we work hard enough? / Variables / 20/20 Hindsight / Collaboration / This podcast / "If You Walk Away" By Chris and Roger Yale / Influences
25:00 - Chris' definition of "hindsight"
26:30 - Who Chris wanted to be
27:29 - Rising above it
28:26 - Tune In, Turn On, Drop Out. Is Chris a hippie? / Sir versus dude
32:04 - More about K.K. Downing / Rob Halford
33:17 - Punk ethos versus corporate rock
33:48 - Divided only by ideas
34:57 - Getting on the bus / Ken Kesey / tripping for the first time / "Are we here?" /"The Bible Bus"
36:55 - Chris gets out of pulling weeds
38:56 - "Rise Above It"
The twins talk about the passing of Les McKeown and Jim Steinman - and continue down a rabbit hole of memories from the Magic Hotel, random thoughts about judgmental drunks, Oscar contenders, digitizing cassettes and more - including another original tune from the archive.
PHOTO: Chris with Les McKeown - Magic Hotel circa 1979
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Dirty Blue" by Chris Yale
3:00 - Greetings and about the song / Roland TD-4S Drum Kit
3:50 - Chris' hair / Nobody understands Chris / Roger's back hair
4:55 - Roz not Roz
5:28 - Les McKeown dead at 65 / Magic Hotel (Now Magic Castle Hotel) / The friends we made when Les stayed at the hotel
6:43 - Nylon jumpsuits / Bla Bla Cafe / Pop world 1979 / Duran Duran / Pantages Theatre
8:00 - More about Les McKeown / Ego Trip / Big in Japan / All Washed Up / Budokan / Tartan Army
8:50 - Busting our niece Cathy kissing a Shaun Cassidy album.
9:15 - Adventures with our new friends / Chasing Bowie / Trip to Big Bear Lake
9:45 Weed culture then and now
10:44 - Drunks judging stoners
11:23 - "You became 'The Man'" / Hippies / Slackers / Is Chris a hippie?
12:51 - Roger's nose hair
13:14 - How to use a coaster
14:00 - Our first band / Uncle Roger at the Magic Hotel / The Babys / John Waite
14:54 - More hippies / Chris apologizes / Haight-Ashbury after the Summer of Love / Charles Manson / Drugs and drinking
17:51 - As good as you are going to feel all day
18:25 - Jim Steinman dead at 73 / Bat Out of Hell album / Watershed / Joe Oestreich / Hitless Wonder / Rock On, Mr. Chips
20:15 - Steinman songs / Bonnie Tyler / Meat Loaf / Celine Deon / Paradise by the Dashboard Light / Bat Out of Hell on Broadway
22:37 - Who would or would have produced us / Steve Lillywhite / Nick Lowe / Gus Dudgeon / Glyn Johns
24:05 - Roger's crappy cassette-to-MP3 converter / WAV versus MP3
25:25 - Chris begrudgingly shares his digitizing knowledge
28:01 - Hanging out with Miles, aka Squish / Elijah / Katie and Bill (Chris' daughter's family)
30:02 - 12 Rules for Life (Peterson) / The Year of Magical Thinking (Didion) /Alone with God (McAlpine) / The Gift (Hafiz) / Encyclopedia Walking (Kanis)
31:19 - Oscar contenders - One Night in Miami / Mank / Sound of Metal / Judas and the Black Messiah
32:40 - Coconut Grove
33:11 - Being at home versus being at work
33:40 - More Uncle Roger
34.20 - Our friends at House of Blues Myrtle Beach
35.25 - Shout-out to the friends we made during the Les McKeown days
ArcLight Cinemas and Pacific Theatres are closing 300 screens in California, including the iconic Cinerama Dome in Hollywood. The twins discuss this sad news with writer Brendan Wright, a longtime friend who worked for a time at the Dome. They also discuss the trend toward movie streaming, Brendan's time in Hollywood and his comprehensive annual Biggie Awards.
Photo: Jay L. Clendenin/Los Angeles Times
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 "Tired" by Chris Yale
2:04 - Greetings and about the song
2:55 - 300 movie screens are going dark in California
3:11 - Hollywood Reporter - "ArcLight Cinemas and Pacific Theatres to Close"
4:35 - Cinerama Dome / "2001: A Space Odyssey" / "Back to the Future" / "Yentl" / Roger E. Mosley / Geodesic Dome
6:07 - Petition to Save the Cinerama Dome
6:20 - Introducing Brendan Wright / Biggie's Place
7:45 - Initial thoughts on theater closings
8:09 - Brendan's time in Hollywood
8:25 - Natick, MA / North Hollywood / In-N-Out Burger
10:05 - Working at the ArcLight / The daily trip to work
11:27 - More about the ArcLight / Cinerama Dome
14:00 Celebrities and industry types
15:11 - Coordinating events / logistics
15:15 - Cinerama Dome versus the Chinese Theatre / "Star Wars" at the Chinese Theatre, 1977
17:46 - "Dreamgirls" / Jennifer Hudson / Eddie Murphy
18:22 - Applause and actually reading the credits - a Hollywood thing
19:43 - Learning from mistakes - what to do next time in Hollywood
20:50 - About Biggie's Place / Biggie Awards versus Academy Awards
22:10 - Origins of the Biggie Awards / "Saving Private Ryan" / "Shakespeare In Love"
23:23 - COVID-19 and movies / Ben Affleck / "The Way Back" / "Tenet"
24:50 - Protecting the Dome
25:55 - The state of the movie industry / Oscar qualification / "Mank" / "The Irishman"
27:26 - ArcLight kettle corn / Reserving seats / high-end food and beer
28:38 - Alamo Drafthouse Austin / "A Star is Born"
30:57 - www.biggiesplace.net / Instagram: @bwimages
31:37 - "Judas and the Black Messiah" / "Nomadland" / "Sound of Metal"
32:07 - The problem with streaming / Attention spans / Distraction
34:00 - The dreaded word: Content
35:02 - Padron cigars
The twins are not fighting. It might seem like that, though. This episode covers everything from health and fitness to guitars and pencils - from CrossFit to the mountains of Southwest Virginia, Billy Preston to Paul Williams and so much more - including a cool instrumental from Chris.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Airwolf Blitzer" - Instrumental by Chris Yale
1:43 - Greetings and about the instrumental / Logic Pro
2:47 - We're not fighting / Fuente Anejo 888
4:00 - Health & fitness / Chris' flip-flops / Achilles heels
5:01 - Eating seeds as a pastime activity
5:35 - Kretschmer
6:05 - Roger's son and coach / More fitness / Nutrition / Insect protein / Cricket protein / Buddy Holly's Crickets
7:45 - Roger's son competed in Fittest of the Coast / CrossFit Wando
8:52 - Riffing on CrossFit
9:23 - Coloring and hunting for Easter Eggs
9:35 - Neil Young "After the Gold Rush"
10:05 - Harry Nilsson "Without You" / Eric Carmen "All By Myself" / Celine Dion "All By Myself" / Eminem "Without Me"
11:10 - Paul Williams interviewed by Brian Koppelman
12:10 - Wytheville, VA and "The Pencil"
12:57 - Pencil quality check / Dixon Ticonderoga
13:35 - Quality and the Global Marketplace
13:30 - Quality and guitars / Chris' guitars / Quality can be found everywhwere
16:32 - Returning guitars / More guitar talk / SansAmp Acoustic Flyrig / Sansabelt pants
19:41 - Popeil Pocket Fisherman
20:45 - Recent gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / The mix / PreSonus / QSC
23:49 - "Let's unpack this" / "Let's stick a pin in this" / "Hey there" / Jen Psaki
24: 56 - Busy Myrtle Beach / Vaccine talk / Hygiene / Chemicals
26:50 - Inner Space ride at Disneyland back in the day / Billy Preston "Outta Space"
27:48 - Chris' session with Billy Preston / Joe Hicks / Roger Dollarhide / Paramount Recording Studios
29:37 - Drinking in Hollywood / Four Aces / Frolic Room / Firefly / Old Drunks / Drinking at lunch / The Old Spaghetti Factory with Mark Mulkeen / The People Tree / Gower Gulch
33:22 - BUZZ WTR / New booze versus old booze / Seltzers / White Claw / Jameson
34:08 - Roger's daughter is a Hibernophile
35:02 - Freestyling versus talking points
36:15 - 33 Episodes already / Jesus died at 33 / Elton John "21 at 33"
DeBarge "All This Love"
37:20 - Happy birthday to our friend Stan Obrycki
This trip down the rabbit hole includes chatter about a bygone eatery in West Hollywood, an update from The Yale Brothers' most recent gig in Myrtle Beach, Roger's infatuation with Pittsburgh, Colonel Klink and much more - including an original song from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Reflector" by Chris Yale - Recorded at Paramount Recording Studios Hollywood, circa 1983
3:08 - Greetings and about the song
4:40 - French Quarter Restaurant West Hollywood / The French Market / Dorothy's Surrender
9:15 - We got jabbed - First round of the Moderna vaccine
9:53 - Our recent gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / "Freebird" / The mix
11:34 - Steve Fuji - Episode 31 / Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) parties
11:46 - "Do you party?" / Define "party" / Hollywood letches
13:12 - More about the vaccines
14:25 - Roger's workouts planned by his son, who is also his coach and trainer / "Go practice falling down..."
15:34 - Random strangers "testing the water" / "Are you one of us?" / The Hateful Grid
20:26 - "Designated Survivor" / "Lilyhammer" / Steven Van Zandt / "Curb Your Enthusiasm" Season 9 / "Larry David Moments" / Forced conversation
22:49 - Schwab's / Sting / Werner Klemperer / Vic Tayback / Chris high at Schwab's
24:53 - Canter's Deli Hollywood / Kibitz Room / The bar/lounge inside Denny's on Wilton and Sunset / Big Daddy's Lounge Miami
26:45 - Dad's coffeehouses in Miami: The Hootenanny / The Coffee House
27:21 - Roger's infatuation with Pittsburgh / What's a "jagoff"? / Primanti Brothers
28:48 - Philippe's Downtown L.A. / How to eat a French Dipped sandwich / Michael Connelly / "Bosch"
For episode 31, we welcome Steve Fuji - a longtime friend who was our first-ever recording engineer and producer at Mystic Sound in Hollywood. We go deep - talking Mystic, vintage gear, stories from back in the day in Hollywood and much more - including one of our first recorded songs and a cut from another friend's demo.
Above: Steve Fuji at Mystic Sound - 1978
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Never Wanted You to Leave" by Roger Yale - Recorded at Mystic Sound circa 1978.
3:44 - Greetings and about the song.
5:10 - Steve Fuji intro and bio
6:25 - Welcoming Steve and taking up where we left off.
7:25 - Chris' old Portastudio /Recording remotely at The Improv / Phil Moore
9:12 - Jim Alden and his Teac 3340 / Old equipment versus new technology
10:10 - Steve's first record project / Old work shows up in unlikely places.
13:10 - We should have been stars... / Losing Dad / Steve's friendship with Dad
14:40 - Dad's stories about the music biz in England / Wally Moody / Doug Moody and Mystic Sound
17:05 - History of Mystic Sound / Mercury Records / Mustang and Del-Fi Records / Bob Keane / Mike Curb / Quincy Jones / Chris Huston
18:45 - Led Zeppelin II & Mystic Sound / Lord Sutch and Heavy Friends
19:25 - How Steve wound up at Mystic / Golden West College / Dave Pell
20:29 - Mystic Records /The Yale Brothers at Mystic / Steve's production techniques / Brother acts / Del-Fi Records was in the space before Mystic was.
24:40 - No Smoking! Machines Breathing - Inside the Mystic Control Room with a treasure trove of now-vintage gear: Spectra-Sonics mixing console/ AMPEX MM-1000 / Quadraphonic mixing room / Echo chambers with Altec 604-E speakers / Teletronix LA-2A limiter / Leslie speaker
29:00 - Unreleased demo tapes, cult followings and more
30:00 - DJ Joey Reynolds
34:46 - Steve's apartment on Fountain Avenue in Hollywood / Our friend Mark Douglas was more punk than punk / Mark's demo sessions
38:00 - Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) days
39:22 - Riverside, CA / Joshua Tree, CA
40:25 - The new normal
42:49 - Steve's vintage gear and group
46:12 - "Some Enchanted Edsel"
48:03 - Brian Wilson / Al Jardine / Daryl Hall / "Live From Daryl's House"
52:07 - The Cross Pen and lasting friendships
56:56 - More about Mark Douglas - and one of his demos, "Red Control"
The Yale Brothers discuss rehearsal studios in and around Hollywood back in the day, their trip to London in 1980, their newfound fans in Myrtle Beach and much more - including another original song from the archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Watching Her Eyes" by Chris Yale / Myrtle Beach 2003
4:25 - Greetings and about the song
5:16 - The Body Electric, Walt Whitman and "Fame" / Tresa Hughes
6:15 - Rehearsal spaces in and around Hollywood / The dive across from Hollywood High / Roller Girls
7:20 - Swingin' Thing / Michael Penketh /
9:19 - Cole Rehearsal Studios / Stewart Copeland / John Christ / Danzig / KISS "The Second Coming"
12:07 - Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley encounters
14:56 - Echo Sound Hollywood
15:55 - Managed by the Mob
17:08 - London trip 1980 - Recollections / This Is Your Life for Paddie O'Neil / The White House Regent's Park / Roger tipped like a baller / Listening to Queen's "The Game" at EMI London / Old guy at music shop remembered Dad / The Yachts / The Pretenders / Roy Moseley / Theatre Royal Haymarket / National Theatre
25:51 - The British Museum / "Bob's your uncle"
26:27 - Dad let us drink in London, but he wouldn't let us go to Paris
27:06 - Speaker's Corner Hyde Park
28:35 - Chris' fake ID
29:55 - Myrtle Beach is getting busy / COVID-19 Vaccines / Mask ordinances
31:28 - Notes from our new fans at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
31:18 - "All the Trouble in the World" / "Altered States of Consciousness" / "My Year Abroad"
34:14 - Bob Lefsetz
35: 53 - Jimmy's "Deady Bear"
37:16 - Chris was listening to Biggie today.
The twins talk about the importance of capturing ideas when they show up, Chris' stamp collection, practicing music in vacant rooms at The Magic Hotel (now Magic Castle Hotel) in the 70s, questioning authority and much more - including another original song from the archive...
And what did Uncle Roger do with his verkykers...
Above: Yale Brothers at Magic Hotel Front Desk
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Camelia" by Chris Yale
3:04 - About the song
4:14 - Capturing ideas / Roger's blog post, "Embrace the Flashes"
Edirol R-09
ZOOM H1n
Verkykers - Afrikaans for "Binoculars"
6:40 - Dad and Uncle Rog used to tell secrets in Afrikaans so we couldn't understand - and more about their accents. How many of our relatives in South Africa remain who knew Dad and Uncle Roger - or are the original Yale Brothers anecdotal now...
9:00 - 1934 half-dollar / Texas Centennial
9:47 - Chris' stamp collection / "Philatelist" sounds nasty
13:44 - Magic shows with Chris Gillette, son of Anita Gillette
14:20 - Roger's ventriloquist dummy, "Corky"
15:05 - Roger's comics - Marvel KISS Super Special
15:55 - Purification
16:51 - Playing music in vacant rooms at the Magic Hotel (Now Magic Castle Hotel) in Hollywood - and more
17:58 - Ron Flynt from 20/20
18:29 - Bla Bla Cafe
19:28 - Can we borrow a reel-to-real player?
20:36 - "Aud calls" at Hollywood Professional School
21:35 - Messing up songs at gigs and learning songs
23:41- Allergies
24:52 - Prescription drug names sound so stupid.
25:30 - Street drugs should have disclaimers.
25:59 - COVID-19 Vaccines
28:30 - Question authority - always and everywhere / sovereign citizen / Real ID
31:51 - Splintering churches, protestantism and more
32:41 - Steve Jobs getting canned at Apple
33:15 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
The twins discuss a couple more magicians who stayed at the Magic Hotel in the 1970s, the travails of working at the front desk, antics at the hotel pool and much more - including a trip to The Burbank Studios with prolific storyboard artist Joe Musso, gigging in Myrtle Beach and Chris' resting bitch face.
Above: Tiger Beat Open Call (Photo by Terry Seabrooke / Photo art by Bill Wright)
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Chris' movie trailer audio experiment: "It's Coming..."
0:49 - "A Different Light" by Chris Yale
4:53 - Greetings
5:58 - The Magic Hotel (Now Magic Castle Hotel) - more magicians / Billy McComb / Gin craze in the UK / Terry Seabrooke / The Magic Castle / International Brotherhood of Magicians
10:38 - The Tiger Beat open call
12:08 - The Magic Castle Peeper
13:10 - Working at the front desk by the skin of our teeth / Tom Berenger / Daniel Stern / Jeff Daniels
15:52 - Uncle Roger, aka "The Night Watchman"
16:32 - The Magic Hotel pool / Wayne Cilento did not pop our pool float / Richard Balestrino popped our float.
18:05 - About "A Different Light"
18:54 - Swedish models sunbathing topless - and nobody told them they couldn't.
20:21 - Joseph Musso / Irwin Allen Productions / The Burbank Studios / "The Swarm" / Richard Chamberlain / Jon Walmsley from "The Waltons" / "MAS*H" cast members
22:45 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach - another fun gig
23:20 - Chris' old Martin DC1E
24:47 - Random requests at gigs
26:03 - Bill Gazzarri
26:20 - What we've been watching: "Designated Survivor" / Kiefer Sutherland / "Billions" / "Schitt's Creek" / "The Gin Craze" / "Judas and the Black Messiah" / LaKeith Stanfield / Daniel Kaluuya / "Emma" / "The Queen's Gambit" / Anya Taylor-Joy / "The Sopranos"
31:58 - Chris' resting bitch face
In this episode, The Yale Brothers discuss everything from the 1972 Miami Dolphins, their first concert experience, the iconic Tower Records in Hollywood, the sometimes uncanny "Twin Mind," emotional intelligence and more - including another original song from Chris' archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Song For Katie" by Chris Yale
3:41 - Greetings and about the song - and hello to Katie!
4:30 - Meeting Garo Yepremian / 1972 Miami Dolphins / Miami Stadium / Garo's desparate pass attempt
6:18 - Miami Dolphins Fight Song
6:39 - Drawing Dolphins jerseys with Ramon Arronte - still a friend to this day
7:51 - Chick Corea and Return to Forever were on the bill at our first concert in 1977 - Fleetwood Mac Rumours Tour / Kenny Loggins
9:16 - More about that first-concert experience with our friend Matt Ross, his trip to L.A. / Matt and Chris get into a car accident in Miami
13:47 - Concerts as teenagers in L.A.
14:04 - "Twin Mind" and our Tower Records birthday windfall / J.J. Burnel "Euroman Cometh" / Smoking weed in the parking lot with a "music scholar" / Our band was on the sign at Tower Records - "Yale at Gazzarri's" - we won the Battle of the Bands.
18:14 - Chris discusses music delivery formats and his collection.
19:55 - The Magic Wand Disappointment
23:42 - More "Twin Mind" at work: Emotional Intelligence and "tacit subtext."
The twins cover continue down rabbit holes with chatter about books, motorcycles, Sufi masters and Jascha Heifetz - and another original song from Chris' archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Broken Angel" by Chris Yale
3:22 - Greetings and about the song - from the album, "Well Enough Alone"
4:05 - The Lord's Day, Lorde, John Lord, Jack Lord, Traci Lords (Rog is scared to put up a link for her - it might lead you into sites you don't want in your history.)
4:48 - Rog thinks his pop culture knowledge is good, but Chris said his rock knowledge was not so great.
5:35 - Jascha Heifetz was a master-violinist, not a Sufi Master. That would be Hafiz.
5:59 - Rumi versus Rummikub
7:30 - Parallels to Sherlock Holmes in "House"
8:59 - "Out of Print"
9:13 - Lee Daniels' "The Butler"
9:25 - More about books and the book industry / Burgess Meredith in "The Twilight Zone" / "Yentl"
Strand Book Store / "The Booksellers" / Aldine Books Hollywood / Berkelouw Books Hollywood / Feedly / Pocket
13:43 - Roger's "value phone" and Chris' iPhone 6 Plus
15:52 - Studiologic Numa Compact 2 stage piano
16:00 - Top-shelf stuff and diminishing returns
17:16 - Our motorcycles and outings / 1988 Sportster / Suzuki GS450 / Honda Magna 750 / David Bacon / Not Valdez - Vasquez Rocks / Glenoaks Blvd. / Palermo Los Angeles / Glendale / Burbank / Boardner's
21:16 - Roger never got a motorcycle license / noise violation on the Sunset Strip / Chris' HOA doesn't allow motorcycles
23:37 - Roger got lost on the way to record at Sound Image in North Hollywood, on his bike, with our tape - while everyone waited / Sound Engineer Glen Matisoff
26:49 - "I souped up your video for ya'." / Richard Klotz / "City of Pain" video - Rogue Alley / The Central (Viper Room)
31:11 - Chris' apartment on Willoughby Avenue in Hollywood / Kevin Haggerty / Our Rasta-ish friend Dewon
33:30 - Underwhelmed by Super Bowl Sunday / Wasted on airplanes / Misconceptions and appearance
35:56 - "Earache My Eye" - Cheech & Chong
37:49 - Basso Profundo and "Big Bottom" from "This is Spinal Tap."
The twins recall some of their "dressing room meets," with names like Eubie Blake, Harry Belafonte, Liza Minnelli and others. Also: More about life at the Magic Hotel (now the Magic Castle Hotel), puberty, first cars, autodidacts and diphthongs. And of course, another original song.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "The Wind" by Chris Yale
3:27 - About the song
4:20 - Roger's Blog Post: "The Abdication Pandemic"
8:00 - Chihuahuas Gone Wild
8:20 - Eubie Blake
8:32 - George Shearing
9:01 - Harry Belafonte / David Blackwell
9:25 - "Shuffle Along" / More Eubie Blake
11:00 - We struggle with math, obviously.
12:19 - Liza Minnelli / "The Act" / Mathilde Pincus / "Walking Papers" / "Arthur in the Afternoon" / Roger Minami
14:48 - Dick Van Dyke
15:00 - The Magic Hotel
15:25 - Marc Eliot / Phil Ochs / "Death of a Rebel" / Michael Ochs Archive
16:23 - Ruth Warrick / "Irene" / Debbie Reynolds / Hans Conreid / Patsy Kelly
16:48 - More Phil Ochs
18:01 - Bob Davis and the Bertrand Russell Society / Chris' Valedictorian / Oxford English Dictionary
19:28 - "The Professor and the Madman"
20:05 - Autodidact is the fancy word for this episode.
20:25 - More Bob Davis / "The Story of Civilization" by Will and Ariel Durant
21:34 - Were we strange kids?
22:05 - Puberty
24:10 - Steve Fujinami and Mystic Sound Studios
24:36 - Diphthongs - whoops, another fancy word
25:51 - Driving and first cars
27:14 - Driving stick / Jim Alden / La Cienega and Sunset - the test.
30:10 - Flyering on the Sunset Strip
31:15 - Poseur on Sunset / Exene Cervenka
32:09 - KROQ / Ian Whitcomb
32:50 - Dad made us return our new clothes.
34:40 - Myrtle Beach / LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / House of Blues Myrtle Beach
In this episode, The Yale Brothers chat about the older ladies - actresses, vaudevillians and singers - that they knew back in the day. They address the inexorable march of time, their current reads and past camping trips. Chris is amazed at Roger's ignorance about a certain music producer. Also included as usual: Another original song from the vault.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Charade" by Chris Yale
4:11 - Greetings
4:40 - Roger's ignorance on display
5:00 - Daniel Lanois / The Joshua Tree / Marc Maron Interview / Peter Gabriel's "So" / Brian Eno
6:51 - We punish ourselves.
7:11 - 2000 was 21 years ago.
8:00 - Big Band Era to 1970s was a shorter span than 1970s to present.
10:03 - The older ladies we knew: Fifi D'Orsay / Variety Arts Theatre
12:22 - The Incomparable Hildegarde / Pantages Theatre
14:26 - Loretta Tupper / Fruit of the Loom Commercial
15:28 - Kim Stanley / "The Right Stuff" / Noel Coward's "Red Peppers" / "Has Anybody Seen Our Ship" / The Actor's Studio / Lee Strasberg
19:39 - Current reads: Alicia Keys' "More Myself" / Little Free Library / The Robert Lowell Notebook / Ted Morgan: "Literary Outlaw: The Life and Times of William S. Burroughs" / Charles Bukowski's "The Screw-Game"
25:43 - California Camping Trips: Sequoia National Park / Big Sur / Soquel / Eureka / Santa Rosa / Hearst Castle San Simeon
26:40 - Barbara Owen & Reginald Owen
28:15 - "Mank"
29:23 - Frank Zappa didn't want to be bothered at El Coyote
30:30 - About "Charade" - this episode's featured song.
31:58 - Walking down Franklin Avenue in Hollywood / The Montecito / Hughes Market / House of Pies / La Poubelle
The twins run the gamut from a bygone band with a KISS connection to growing up in Hollywood and Coconut Grove, Florida - to Catholic school and a detention any kid would love. They get into the climate of fear associated with the Night Stalker serial killer, discuss The Great Books, chasing Bowie and much more.
Above Photo: Doug McKelley, Chris Yale - Medicine Hat
Show notes:
0:00 - "Standin' Alone" by Chris Yale
3:26 - About the song.
4:38 - Skatt Brothers / Sean Delaney / Hong Kong Cafe / Madame Wong's
7:20 - The Association at Madame Wong's West
8:12 - Why two drummers?
9:05 - "Mansplaining" to other men.
10:14 - Music licensing / podcasts
12:30 - Our favorite years
14:12 - The Night Stalker Richard Ramirez - and the new show on Netflix
16:20 - Phil Spector / Hunter S. Thompson / William S. Burroughs / Ted Morgan
18:31 - Guns and alcohol - a ridiculous combination
19:26 - Britannica's Great Books of the Western World
21:57 - Chris "The Priest?"
23:05 - Catholic school, "Flor de Feo" and the coolest detention ever
St. Hugh Catholic School
27:03 - Coconut Grove / The Coffee House / The Hootenanny / "Once Upon a Coffee House" / Joan Rivers
28:45 - Miami in the 1980s
30:05 - Chasing Bowie
33:45 - Miami and Hollywood - Cosmopolitan and diverse
34:21 - HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series
34:26 - Myrtle Beach and COVID-19 / John Rhodes
Casey King is all about changing the face of recovery.
Casey's a physics professor at Horry-Georgetown Technical College in Myrtle Beach, and through his work with the Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series aims to reduce the stigma society places on those in recovery.
He has been sober since 2005.
In 2008, he founded and launched the series – a popular event that has included a growing “Who’s Who” of featured celebrity speakers – from actors to rock stars to medical professionals and many more.
The series also features presentations and panels including college students, recovery advocates and spokespersons from local recovery groups, rounding out a lecture series that shines as a beacon of hope for those still struggling with addiction and a lamp on the path of those on their recovery journeys.
The program is set to continue this year in a virtual setting on the Zoom platform, beginning on January 28 and continuing every Thursday until February 18.
SHOW NOTES
0:00 - "Seeing's Believing" by Chris Yale
4:05 - About the song. From Chris' album "Well Enough Alone"
4:35 - Introducing Casey King
Louis Gossett, Jr. / Mackenzie Phillips / Danny Trejo / Art Alexakis / Bob Forrest/ Dr. Drew Pinsky
8:10 - Overview of series
8:40 - About Casey
9:18 - Trajectory of series
14:21 -Jeff VanVonderen / Meredith Baxter / Candy Finnigan / Ken Seeley
18:23 - Booking Louis Gossett, Jr / The Gary Stromberg connection
20:09 - Danny Trejo's appearance was the most well-attended on-campus event in HGTC history.
22:00 - Degrees of separation
22:39 - Local recovery and advocacy groups: Lighthouse Care Center / Shoreline Behavioral Health Services / FAVOR Grand Strand - Faces and Voices of Recovery / Grand Strand Health
23:35 - COVID-19 / Series to go virtual
24:30 - Virtual recovery meetings paved the way for this year's series.
25:30 - "World Home Group" - Scotland, Australia, Berlin, Ireland, Tenerife
26:21 - Speaker reveal LINK / Casey King and Coastal Carolina University's Wes Fondren
26:50 - This year's speakers: Craig T. Nelson / Keith A. Somers / Carnie Wilson / Gary Stromberg / Paul Williams
Click HERE for series details and access. It's free and you can be anonymous if you wish.
34:42 - Changing the Face of Recovery
36:00 - Casey's advice for those still struggling
To reach out to Casey, call or text (843)450-6482
The twins go down a rabbit hole, discussing everything from Noel Coward to Allen Ginsberg to Allan Sherman to Vaughn Meader - to the phrase, "Be Cool" and much more - including another original tune from Chris' archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Technicolor Town" - by Chris Yale
2:45 - About the song
3:55 - Farewell, Jim Cass. God rest you.
4:55 - Roger's fascination with Noel Coward.
"The Vortex" / Morley Safer / "The Privilege of His Company: Noel Coward Remembered" by William Marchant / "I'll See You Again" / "Private Lives" / "Blithe Spirit" / "Noel Coward at Las Vegas" / Peter Matz / Coward and Roger's smoking / Mark Mulkeen / Roy Moseley
10:50 - Chris and Sherlock Holmes
Arthur Conan Doyle / Allan Sherman / "My Son the Folk Singer" / Vaughn Meader / "The First Family"
12:55 - ZOOM LiveTrak L-8
13:50 - Buying tobacco underage in the 1970s
16:25 - More about Rog and Noel Coward
17:15 - Bob Dylan / Jack Kerouac / William S. Burroughs / Allen Ginsberg / Arthur Rimbaud / Ted Morgan / William Somerset Maugham
19:18 - Benzedrine Inhalers and the Beats
20:44 - "What's the matter with your eyes, boys?"
22:18 Roger's rat tail
23:44 - Chris' skinny black jeans, boots and Springsteen
25:08 - "Reality Sandwiches" by Allen Ginsberg
25:15 - Wattles Park Hollywood
26:55 - Benders and sobriety
28:12 - New Year's thoughts, "Don't bother to join a gym," high colonics and COVID-19
29:45 - My son/My coach
33:49 - Tantric Sting, Gene Simmons and self-importance
34:15 - Band chemistry and Led Zeppelin
Rona Barret
35:45 - Sick of music?
"Thing A Week" / Jonathan Coulton
The twins explore the divergent methodologies for dish washing and talk about a handful of old stores in Hollywood back in the day - and their work as movie extras (lots of waiting around). More about their rehearsal room under the Magic Hotel (now the Magic Castle Hotel), punks, skaters, big guys with knives and much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Matter of Time" by Chris Yale
2:36 - About the song
3:00 - Is Roger in a bad mood?
3:30 - How to wash a dish
5:22 - Bacon
6:13 - Pic 'N' Save and Bargain Circus - 1970s
7:58 - Adray's / Ametron
10:30 - Working as movie extras.
"The Jazz Singer" and Roy Moseley
"Angel on My Shoulder" / Barbara Hershey
"The Golden Moment" / Jack Palance
"The Idolmaker" / Ray Sharkey / Peter Gallagher
13:30 - Priscilla Lopez
14:10 - "Fast Times at Ridgemont High"
16:18 - Roger's table reading for his play / Robert Romanus
18:20 - Waiting around during shoots
Screen Extras Guild
19:54 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
20:51 - Jamming with Frank Infante from Blondie
Mink DeVille
22:10 - Cat and Fiddle Pub - Laurel Canyon location
23:11 - Ron Flynt of 20/20 / "Yellow Pills" / The Plimsouls / The Starwood / Eddie Nash
23:54 - Valley kids fighting with punks.
Social Distortion
25:30 - Tiffany Theater / "Rocky Horror Picture Show"
26:27 - Big guy with a knife / Drunk punk outside the Seven Seas / Skater kid takes a spill at USC
29:47 - Skateboard stunts and Zippo lighter tricks.
30:49 - "Murder Beach"
After an original song from Chris' archives, the twins go down a rabbit hole, mostly about Hollywood Boulevard in the 1970s - when it was new to them. They also discuss their South African heritage, the old Columbia Studios on Gower and Sunset, Western Costume and much more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Castaway" by Chris Yale
5:18 - Chris' "Emotional Support" Chihuahuas
6:52 - Our South African Heritage
8:32 - The Castle Beer Show - Original Yale Brothers
9:51 - Dad's apartment at Peyton Hall in Hollywood / McLean Stevenson / It was at Hollywood and Fuller, not Orange / Olympic-sized pool and Esther Williams
12:14 - Macho Posturing
13:02 - "Hello Larry" vs. "MAS*H"
13:02 - Baltimore / KIX / Author Troy Nooe / "Don't Close Your Eyes"
16:13 - Hollywood Boulevard in the 1970s
La Brea Avenue / Hollywood Walk of Fame / Hollywood Magic / Hollywood Toys
20:15 - Chris' Vintage Magic Tricks / Tarbell Course in Magic / Mark Wilson's Course in Magic / Robert Harbin / Walter Gibson aka Maxwell Grant - "The Shadow"
22:43 - Pickwick Books / Collector's Bookstore / Bennett's / Bond Street Books / Cherokee Bookstore
23:48 - Chinese Theatre / Egyptian Theatre / Paramount/El Capitan Theatre / Pantages
25:22 - ArcLight Cinemas (Cinerama Dome) / Musso and Frank Grill / Newsstands / The Gold Cup
28:13 - Crying at Concerts
29:39 - Miceli's / Bobby Pompey's Las Palmas Barber Shop
31:16 - Columbia Studios / Sunset Gower Studios / The "Hollywood USA" idea
34:43 - Western Costume, Sherlock Holmes and "Targo"
35:48 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
36:17 - Hurricane Colinz
36:29 - Thoughts on COVID-19, booking shows and more
37:17 - Sick Stooges (Roger was a founding member. Read his tribute HERE.
A conversation about Roger's Motown Experience and Chris' time at Capitol Records. The twins also talk about Asheville, NC, Biltmore Estate and much more - including another original song from Chris' archive.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Too Lonely To Pretend" - By Chris Yale
3:15 - Ardor Pipes / Chartwell Pipe Tobacco
3:34 - Ron Miller - Motown Songwriter
4:17 - Dissed by Jay Lasker at Motown
ABC/Dunhill Records
5:09 - Joe Smith - Capitol Records / "Off The Record"
"Hit Men" - By Fredric Dannen
6:19 - Roger that?
7:43 - Asheville, NC / Biltmore Estate / Moogseum
12:13 - Luddites and Early Adopters
12:57 - Roger's Motown Experience - Read more about it HERE.
14:51 - Chris' work at Capitol and more Motown
Jobette Music
Motown Tape Library - Fran Maclin
16:21 - Storage treasure troves at Motown and Capitol
18:08 - More Motown
19:11 - John Denver almost snubbed Chris.
"The Coddling of the American Mind"
19:53 - Benny Medina, A&R and "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
20:15 - Morocco Records - Motown's Rock Label
20:39 - Flip of Hollywood
21:22 - Ron Miller / "For Once in My Life" / Charlene: "I've Never Been to Me"
Suzanne de Passe
Paul Le Mat
Commodores - Nightshift
Lionel Richie - All night Long
Rockwell - Somebody's Watching Me
Motown 25
Stevie Wonder - I Just Called To Say I Love You
Chris de Burgh
Rick James Unity Tour
Mary Jane Girls
26:15 - Roger's "Breakfast Bowl"
LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
Myrtle Beach and COVID-19
27:47 - About "Too Lonely To Pretend"
28:23 - Livin', Lovin' and Givin'
The twins are all over the place in this episode - from Charles Atlas to Sherlock Holmes, Debbie Allen to Dr. Seuss and so much more - including gigs in Myrtle Beach and an original song from Chris.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "Where You Gonna Run To Now" - by Chris Yale
3:58 - Greetings
4:34 - Roger ordered the Charles Atlas course when he was 12. Read his recent blog post HERE.
7:30 - Were we ever really bullied?
9:41 - Chris and his Bullworker.
10:10 - "Dynamic Tension" versus isometrics
10:34 - Roger's personal trainer is his son, Wes.
11:19 - Hot Yoga brouhaha
11:51 - Steambath - the play
12:27 - Bruce Tegner self-defense books
13:13 - Chris thought he was Sherlock Holmes.
14:26 - Robert Riesel
15:14 - Chris' chemistry sets
16:00 - Roger's typing history and early stabs at writing - and later West Coast Review of Books and Entertainment Today.
17:50 - Halloween gig at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
18:10 - Roger screwing up a Leon Russell riff
19:18 - Dr. Seuss and the misappropriated quote
19:54 - Dad and Debbie Allen
20:45 - Chris' current song project on Logic Pro / Logic Pro versus Cubase
22:23 - More about Halloween gig
24:14 - COVID-19 on the Grand Strand / Sun News Editorial
26:59 - Going to the movies in Hollywood versus elsewhere
27:41 - "Ain't That Pelicula..."
27:58 - Glendale, California
29:10 - The Magic Hotel and our dubious work experience / "gifts" from guests
30:18 - Cocaine the cockatoo
32:32 - More about Glendale
33:01 - About "Where You Gonna Run To Now"
33:30 - Chris' tiny MIDI keyboard / Firesign Theater / Derek and Clive (Dudley Moore and Peter Cook) / Redd Foxx's "You Gotta Wash Your Ass"
36:10 - The cigar lounge at Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
37:30 - Chris and his childhood friend Darryl's fake scientific code - "XH"
A conversation with our friend and honorary Yale Brother, Scott Mann.
Scott's an on-air personality and program director at classic rock station WAVE 104.1 in Myrtle Beach. He's also co-founder of Get Right Promotions, which organized a socially-distanced drive-in concert featuring festival stalwarts Big Something, coming up on November 7 at Thompson Farm at Brickyard Plantation in Conway, SC.
Show Notes:
0:00 - "Go" by Chris Yale
3:24 - Meet Scott Mann
5:30 - "The Triplet"
5:44 - Scott's been in Myrtle Beach since 1999.
6:24 - Roger's first encounters with Scott, and the subsequent Story of the Year in Weekly Surge. Founding editor Kent Kimes, artist Dan McCosbe and JerryFest.
8:16 - Scott's job at WAVE 104.1 and why he got into radio
13:00 - "The Last DJ"
14:00 - COVID-19 and the radio industry
16:40 - Save Our Stages
19:27 - About the now sold out Big Something show / Artist Leslie Caneda / Artist Stephen Rullo / Over the Moon Productions / The Gnosh Pit / Chambers Law Firm / New South Brewing / HTC / WKZQ / Waccamaw Getaway Festival
31:05 - Two grumpy guys?
32:04 - Marathon for Meals
The twins run the gamut from Ann B. Davis to Glenn Danzig - plus recording software, misophonia and gigging in Myrtle Beach. As always, there's a cool song in there somewhere, too.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - A universal truth from my friend Deborah.
0:40 - "Small Town Girl" by Marc Weisman and Chris Yale
4:02 - About the song and the production process
5:30 - Sick Stooges
6:22 - Duke's Coffee Shop West Hollywood
6:30 - Mouth sounds and misophonia.
7:18 - Ann B. Davis at The Magic Hotel
9:33 - Apologetics: The science of being sorry?
10:14 - Richard Thomas
12:48 - George Michael and the flight attendant - and Chris' encounter with him at Tower Records. And our cover of "Careless Whisper" at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach.
15:32 - More about our recent gig at LuLu's
16:32 - Roger's reel-to-reel storage quest - and more about old tapes
19;23 - Our pal Jim Alden went to Roscoe's House of Chicken and Waffles last night - and Chris' memories of Roscoe's and traffic court.
20:16 - Cubase and Logic Pro
24:17 - More about LuLu's gigs. And a shout-out to Adam Holt for booking us. Click on the link for more about Adam and his music.
25:25 - Roger's son has got him on a strength and conditioning program. And Chris rides his bike a lot.
27:22 - Grown men on bikes and mopeds. A lot of them aren't doing this for fitness or for fun. Fill in the blanks.
29:10 - Discussing our old tape archives and riffing on DeBarge versus degauss versus (Suzanne) DePasse.
32:38 - Archival content: NOFX, Black Flag, Fear, Misfits
33:25 - Glenn Danzig's neck - and Roger's time hanging with Derf Scratch at Ian Talcroft's old studio in Glendale.
Roger's at-home skin tag removal method, a look back at his son's wedding, the off-season in Myrtle Beach, thoughts about NYC and much more - including a cool song from Chris with great Leslie emulation and a tasty groove.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "No Enemies" by Chris Yale
4:60 - About the song
5:26 - Leslies and digital emulation
6:10 - Roger's Skin Tag
8:41 - Roger's son's wedding
9:40 - Our latest gig at Lulu's: Chris' Alvarez AF 610E and Tech 21 Fly Rig. (A fly rig is not a plane.)
11:02 - Myrtle Beach, restaurant reopening, the Fall Rally and the off-season.
14:05 - Roger's recent story in The Sun News: Joe Czapla and his NO FKS Given zero-waste food truck.
15:50 - More off-season stuff and packs of misbehaving golfers.
16:34 - Thoughts on NYC: Elton John at Barclays Center and Strand Book Store
18:07 - Blue Bicycle Books Charleston and "White Bicycles"
18:31 - Mascots at the Tinder Box: The Pet Mice
19:25 - NYC: Perception versus Reality
20:34 - Marie's Crisis Greenwich Village
22:00 - COVID-19: Six months in
22:25 - Roger's interface and recording software
25:15 - Remember Drumdrops?
26:13 - Jim Alden's audio fascination
26:45 - Hearing loss
27:32 - The universe, positivity and self-talk.
28:25 - "Bless Your Heart."
28:45 - Southern Mom / South African Dad
29:45 - We're men of action now.
31:33 - Ian Anderson's ruined masters
Roger's son's wedding is coming up fast. The twins talk about that and Wes' bachelor getaway and bonding time - a weekend trip to an outdoor shooting range followed by an airsoft battle the next day - and Roger's "war wounds."
Also: An alternate version of Chris' song, "I See September," memories of our first trip to Hollywood,a lively chat about more of the shows we they experienced at several venues...and more!
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "I See September" by Chris Yale. Alternate version recorded in Myrtle Beach by his old band, Early Train.
3:57 - More about "I See September"
4:55 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
6:12 - Wes' bachelor getaway after KISS got postponed: Outdoor shooting, airsoft (airsoft is not soft).
13:59 - The wedding is Saturday. Wasn't it just 18 months away?
15:26 - First trip to Hollywood, 1967. Hippies in Griffith Park, Dad's apartment on Carlton Way, The Hollywood Palace with Paul Revere and The Raiders. Travel Town. Griffith Park Equestrian Center.
18:54 - Fast-forward: Cathay de Grande/The China Club, Pleasant Gaiman.
20:25 - The Palladium Hollywood: Early U2, The Clash 1979, Smithereens, REM.
23:57 - Shows at (Six Flags) Magic Mountain: Redbone, The Bangles while Chris was tripping, Dad's friend Vic Perry, Michael Steele, not Michael Steele. Thomas Dolby, Heart, the Supremes without Diana Ross and John Waite.
30:32 - Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, Greek Theatre, Wiltern Theatre.
31:20 - Boring shows: Steve Winwood, Moody Blues and probably ZZ Top.
32:42 - Tribute Bands versus Cover Bands.
33:40 - Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
34:00 - Chris' chihuahuas should have been named Jacob and Esau.
35:20 - Dad's 1967 Impala and The Kinks at the bygone Universal Amphitheater.
36:03 - Driving stoned and Anxiety Weed.
38:20 - The Capitol Records Tower Hollywood.
A conversation with our friend Mark Ross Mulkeen, covering a 40-year friendship: Early days at Los Angeles City College (1980-1982), his friendship with Peggy Lee, that time Peggy and Tony Bennett greeted Chris at Peggy's front door - and so much more, including Chris' song for Rogue Alley, "I See September."
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - "I See September" - Chris Yale
4:25 - Mark Ross Mulkeen - Friends for 40 years this month.
5:03 - Roger was the "ugly chick" in yellow at LACC.
5:35 - More about LACC days.
7:00 - Blimpie and the arcade on Vermont Avenue.
8:10 - Daniel Murphy High School
11:18 - More LACC Memories.
13:33 - Getting trashed at The Old Spaghetti Factory.
15;45 - Crestline, Ca.
19:30 - COVID-19 and the rise of virtual firms.
21:20 - Rents in LA/San Francisco/New York City
22:35 - Cedarhurst and Hillside Terrace
25:14 - Mark's friendship with Peggy Lee.
31:37 - That time Peggy Lee and Tony Bennett answered the door when Chris went to Peggy's house.
33:03 - Gaga versus Madonna
35:45 - Mark and Roger's crush on Tatum O'Neal
37:16 - Richard Deacon, Rock Hudson at The Rose Tattoo
38:32 - Rock Hudson at The Magic Hotel
39:30 - Face the Music game show.
41:09 - Trashed at Fisherman's Wharf and the trip to Walnut Creek - after 'shrooming the night before.
43:31 - Does there really need to be a Build-A-Bear Workshop on Hollywood Boulevard?
The clones cover lots of ground, from vaping and harm reduction to learning from YouTube videos - from their early days in Miami to the "homogenization" of our cities and more - plus an original song called "Famous Last Words."
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Vaping in Chris' studio.
0:30 - Vaping and harm reduction. / U.K. versus the U.S. / Royal College of Physicians and more.
3:35 - Past attempts at podcasting. "Furtive" is not the word.
5:13 - Learning from YouTube videos.
9:38 - "Don't Let the Rain Come Down" is NOT one of Dad's songs.
10:35 - "Famous Last Words" - by Chris Yale
15:05 - Yamaha AW2816
15:45 - Reel-to-Reel tape machines are ridiculously expensive.
16:45 - Digitizing and the time commitment.
17:09 - Why do people keep diaries and journals, only to get rid of them before they die?
17:48 - Miami: Baptist Hospital / Coconut Grove / Bay Heights / Kendall / Key Biscayne / Vizcaya / Museum of Science / St. Hugh Catholic School / Coconut Grove Playhouse / U.S.1
21:32 - The inexorable march of corporatism.
24:20 - The BB gun incident. Shooting models of battleships we set up in the marsh near Vizcaya, and getting in trouble for it.
26;24 - "The Magic Show," with Peter DePaula at The Coconut Grove Playhouse
27:09 - Chris and magic.
28:20 - Bi-coastal memories: Miami and Hollywood.
30:09 - Myrtle Beach
31:00 - Sunday energy levels / Chris' grandson, Miles / Roger's daughter, Taylor is down from Bed-Stuy for her brother, Wes' wedding.
32:05 - Tay and Rog get tested for COVID-19.
33:09 - Can you social distance at an orgy?
34:09 - Can you fool a stoner with non-THC weed?
In this episode, the twins talk about cannabis without the "stoney" component - what they say must be like "smoking O'Doul's." Also: T-Shirts and their vibes, mic placement, "Hairspray Live" & "Jesus Christ Superstar Live" on NBC, The Value of Nostalgia, Lost Things, Chris' Great Fire Theory - and more - including another original song from back in the day.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Smoking O'Doul's
2:44 - The hamster wheel of drinking.
4:55 - Roger can't place a mic to save his life.
5:15 - "Last Play at Shea" and Billy Joel's mic placement.
6:25 - Roger's "Hairspray Live" t-shirt.
7:10 - "Hairspray Live" and "Jesus Christ Superstar Live"
8:00 - The Value of Nostalgia
9:57 - Lost things and The Great Fire Theory
10:54 - Chris fell in love with a piece of chicken.
13:00 "Phantom of the Paradise."
13:14 - "The Joke's on Me" - Chris Yale/Rogue Alley
18:13 - More about "Joke."
19:45 - More about "Hairspray Live" and the shirt.
20:27 - T-Shirts have different vibes.
22:05 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach
23:10 - "Circus of Books" - Documentary
23:30 - Silver Lake and Highland Park
23:52 - Peyton Hall Hollywood
24:27 - Our cool apartment in Glendale - Royal Capri
25:21 - Methodist Church Acid Salesman and Grandview
27:29 - Chris' Superfood Experiments
29:10 - Expectations versus Reality
The Yale Brothers talk about everything from Orson Welles to "Evita," - from finding moments of joy to installing recording software. And just because, they have included two original songs this episode.
SHOW NOTES
0:20 - Chris is Grumpy.
1:07 - Roger is "tinny and weird."
1:57 - Early Train by Chris Yale
5:59 - About Early Train
8:06 - Maudlin is not a TV series starring Bea Arthur.
8:14 - Magic with Orson Wells and Abb Dixon
11:10 - Paul Masson Commercial Outtakes / Orson Welles
12:16 - Crestline, Ca.
14:47 - Roger played sick in sixth grade, but paid the piper.
18:45 - Burrelles Transcripts / Radio TV Reports
19:50 - Our Olympia typewriters, Dad's IBM Selectric, office supplies and Alexanders Stationers Hollywood.
20:52 - "Evita" cast party at The Magic Hotel - where Jane Ohringer pushed Rog into the pool.
23:42 - Japanese Deer Park, Buena Park, Ca. and that really cool wooded area outside Knott's Berry Farm.
25:37 - Barnsdall Art Park and the Ferndell Trail
26:58 - Moments of Joy
29:39 - Art Alexakis story by Roger Yale.
29:57 - Roger installed Cubase LE.
32:03 - Carolina Forest is not Myrtle Beach, SC.
34:07 - Salieri by Chris Yale
The twins go random, talking about everything from the old Tascam Portastudio to the Clive Davis Documentary - Myrtle Beach to old Hollywood haunts, the Hollywood High Sheiks Marching Band and more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:24 - Chris' Portastudio
2:00 - Chris' Portastudio Sessions
Ava Cherry & Count Iain Blair
3:19 - Clive Davis Documentary
7:20 - The Portastudio: Eurythmics & Bruce Springsteen
8:25 - Randomness
11:05 - Chris on moving to Myrtle Beach, gigging back in the day.
15:20 - Covers versus originals.
16:00 - Reading people at gigs.
18:49 - One drink away from oblivion.
20:00 - Hollywood High Sheiks marching band.
22:05 - Roger versus Authority
23:47 - Hollywood haunts: Shakey's Pizza, Barney's Beanery
27:48 - Overthinking
29:05 - Cancel Culture
32:02 - "In Distress" - Chris Yale. Recorded at Paramount Recording, Hollywood.
Episode seven: Our time at Lee Strasberg's acting school, seeing KISS live for the first time, tap dancing, fencing and more...
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Rise Above It - Rogue Alley (Song credit: Chris Yale)
4:50 - The O'Doul's "switcheroo"
6:30 - "The Elements of Style" - Illustrated edition
7:40 - Book stores in Hollywood in the day: Cosmopolitan Bookshop, Berkelouw Rare Books, Pickwick Books
9:03 - Lee Strasberg Theatre and Film Institute
9:25 - Chris' first drum set.
10:33 - More Strasberg
Lorraine Hull / Anita Noble
13:00 - The actor kids
13:25 - KISS Love Gun Tour / ALIVE II Taping / The Forum / Cheap Trick
14:46 - Cheap Trick / House of Blues Myrtle Beach / Watershed
15:18 - More about first KISS show
18:52 - More Strasberg
26:28 - Al Maines - Our tap-dance teacher.
29:01 - Fencing Lessons at Falcon Studios / Ralph Faulkner / Nick Evangelista
32:40 - Chris' grandson, Miles.
The Yale Brothers met their pal Jim Alden more than 40 years ago at Hollywood Professional School. This conversation covers life at HPS, our decades-long friendship, The Magic Hotel, music and more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:25 - Myrtle Beach: Sun, fun and COVID-19
0:47 - Chris Yale - "Just No Way" from "Well Enough Alone"
4:20 - (LOL) - More about "Just No Way." Ian Talcroft. Stave Kobashigawa.
5:05 - Jim Alden - Looking at a 40-year friendship.
7:15 - The '71 Super Beetle - The cool kid with the car.
9:35 - COVID-19 and Hollywood
11:33 - Stare Cat Sound - Glendale
12:31 - Jim adds to our Little Richard encounter at the Continental "Riot" House.
15:13 - Memories from HPS: Hollywood Professional School
28:15 - Hawaii, 1980
31:42 - Memories of Dad and The Magic Hotel
33:41 - Jim's grandmother, Carmen.
34:58 - Jim's studio - Rogue Alley days and before.
37:18 - "1015" - Our friend, the parking meter.
38:15 - "Higher Than Man"
The twins talk about their Fourth of July gig at Camp Pendleton in 1991 with their band, Rogue Alley - and working on an ABC pilot with a couple of other kids who did well for themselves.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Attack Chihuahuas
0:27 - Fourth of July / Myrtle Beach / COVID-19
1:07 - Camp Pendleton with Rogue Alley
Paulie Shore
Hawaiian Tropic Girls
2:26 - Devil Dog Stage Dive
3:22 - Rogue Alley - "If You Walk Away"
8:30 - "The Best of Times" - Trailer
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9:35 - The audition at ABC Studios - Prospect Avenue
11:00 - More about "The Best of TImes"
George Schlatter / Don Mischer / Nicholas Cage / Crispin Glover / Jackie Mason / Janet Robin / Marc Copage
14:40 - Nicholas Cage encounter at the Springsteen show, 1981.
18:27 - The Masquer's Club
Bennett's Book Store Hollywood (Collector's Book Store)
Hollywood Magic
Bond Street Books
20:32 - Kenny Rankin at The Roxy
22:10 - LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Barefoot Landing
23:54 - Chris' grandson, Miles.
24:37 - Rog's son Wes is getting married.
25:09 - Beach Town Throw Down
25:45 - Tinder Box Myrtle Beach
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The Yale Brothers talk about ditching school on the bus, their adventures at the Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, a bygone automotive museum, life in Myrtle Beach and more.
SHOW NOTES:
0:55 - Ditching on the RTD.
2:30 - Rogue Alley: "Strange Fascination"
7:10 - Acid Sale - "Star Wars" at the Chinese Theatre, 1977
9:47 - More about Chinese Theatre
10:45 - Toff's Coffee Shop
12:16 - The Hollywood Inn and the Knickerbocker
12:48 - Irwin Allen's "Earthquake"
13:45: Ditching school with our pals to see the first showing of "Superman" in 1978.
15:03 - Sneaking into the Chinese Theatre and getting kicked out.
15:53 - Motorama
Mike Connors
Jack Benny's Maxwell
Mystic Sound Studios
21:20 - The Hollywood Roosevelt and Chris' Hangover Incident
23:36 - Myrtle Beach and COVID-19
26:02 - Beach Town Throw Down
The Yale Brothers discuss the Copper Penny at Sunset and La Brea in Hollywood - and the wonderful randomness of that intersection in the 70s and 80s. But that's not all...
SHOW NOTES:
0:25 – “What Might Have Been” – From Chris’ album, “Well Enough Alone.”
5:14 – The Copper Penny at Sunset and La Brea: One of our most-frequented coffee shops in Hollywood back in the day.
Peyton Hall
Leo Gorcey – The Dead End Kids
Max Factor Building
Magic Castle Hotel
Tiny Naylor’s
7:56 – Daniel Murphy High School – Dominican priests and Goon Platoon.
Hollywood Professional School
Hollywood High
LACC
10:05 – More Copper Penny
10:40 – Our friend Jim Alden and the Teisco Del Rey
11:00 – Dad and his health foods. Pom-Pom and Gaylord Hauser
11:55 – Robert Rodale did not die on the Dick Cavett Show, but his father did.
12:26 – Jim Fixx
12:55 – Jerry Masarone
14:08 – Mashti Malone’s
20:03 – Thanking God like Burt Reynolds in “The End.”
20:34 – Thrifty Drug Store Coffee Shop and The Brass Rail / Santa Monica and La Brea
21:30 – The Carnation Coffee Shop – Wilshire Blvd.
22:04 – The Old Spaghetti Factory
22:28 – Drinking there with our friend Mark Mulkeen – ditching classes at LACC.
22:37 – Sir George’s Smorgasbord and Plato’s Retreat West: Thank God the food place came before the orgy place and not the other way around.
24:35 – Express Coffee Shop inside the Security Pacific Building/SAFA Medical Center – Hollywood and La Brea. Chris also bought his first pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers for like 25 bucks.
26:30 – Myrtle Beach, gigs and COVID-19: A little bit of common sense goes a long way.
28:25 – The Wiz National Tour 1976 / Andre De Shields
The conversation continues as the twins talk about playing their first gig after the Myrtle Beach area reopened bars and restaurants. They weigh in on the losses of Little Richard and author/entertainer Ian Whitcomb, their Rogue Alley days, and the Continental Riot (Hyatt) House.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 – Roger Defends his Sennheiser mic. Chris relents.
0:55 – First show since shutdown: LuLu’s North Myrtle Beach.
1:55 – Rogue Alley: “Only a Fool” – another song from our “hair days.”
6:15 – Band rundown: Jim Alden (Drums), Mark Cerneka (Guitars. RIP Mark), Richard Klotz (Bass) Roger (keyboards), Chris (frontman and diva). Hollywood 1990-1991. First lineup.
7:75 – The loss of Little Richard – “The Architect of Rock ‘n’ Roll.”
8:15 – Chris encountered Richard when he was in preacher mode – at Rock ‘n’ Roll Denny’s on Sunset. Roger speculates whether or not Rodney Bingenheimer was sitting in a booth that night.
9:39 – Another encounter with Richard at the Continental Hyatt House – or Riot House – on Sunset – years later, while we were being wined and dined by our new managers.
10:50 – Roger explains why he didn’t like Led Zeppelin until he was in his 30s. Something to do with the skater kids at Hollywood High.
11:30 – Chris recently read that Chris Robinson met Little Richard at the Riot House.
12:15 – “Managed by the Mob?”
12:44 – Frank Scarabino aka “Franky the Beast”
15:18 – Remembering Ian Whitcomb
15:35 – Ian Whitcomb: “You Turn Me On”
17:00 – Ian Whitcomb: “My Dead Dog Rover”
16:39 – Ian’s Grammy, his books, the ukulele.
18:18 – “The Boogie-Woogie Jungle Snake” – one of Ian’s albums that Chris drummed on. Along with Little Richard’s sax player, Lee Allen, Big Jay McNeely and more – with music direction by Ronnie Barron, who was closely associated with Dr. John. Roger came along to one of these sessions, tripping balls.
19:55 – Myrtle Beach area allergist and uke performer/collector Joe Moyer – recently spoke to Roger about Whitcomb. That was a happy coincidence.
20:24 – Ian was the first guy to play our music. At KROQ back in the day.
22:55 – Archival outtake – The Garden Court Apartments.
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The beginning of our conversation about music, life, and growing up in 1970s Hollywood.
Show Notes:
0:00 - Why did The Professor and Mary Ann get screwed in season one of Gilligan’s Island by being lumped together as “the rest?”
0:55 - Something from our “hair days…”
Rogue Alley – City of Pain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=378gO3Qs2Jk
Rogue Alley was one of our bands in Hollywood.
5:50 - Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and The Grand Strand – where we live now: https://www.cityofmyrtlebeach.com/
Tinder Box of the Carolinas – where we work: www.tinderboxcigars.com
Chris moved to Myrtle Beach in 1992. Roger in 2005.
8:20 – More about Rogue Alley
8:43 – The Yale Brothers were born in Miami but grew up in Hollywood. We actually attended three high schools there: Daniel Murphy High School, Hollywood Professional School and Hollywood High.
We're boomers who came of age in Hollywood. It was, as Chris says, “beautifully grungy” then.
10:25 - The Magic Hotel (now The Magic Castle Hotel) – our dad, Carl Yale, managed that place for ten years.
12:35 - The Yamashiro and The Magic Castle.
14:55 – Highland Gardens Hotel and Camp Hollywood.
15:25 – The front desk and the old switchboard at the Magic Hotel. Also – we knew every square inch of that place. We had a rehearsal room in the parking garage.
17:06 – Mystic Sound Studios and Mystic Records
20:00 – We thought we’d be rock stars in our teens.
21:22 – The Sunset Strip. Gazzarri’s, The Central (Viper Room), Whisky a Go Go, The Roxy – and the Bla Bla Café.
23:21 – The Gilligan’s Island question – answered.
https://www.metv.com/stories/there-was-drama-on-gilligan-s-island-over-who-appeared-in-the-credits-and-when
Until next time.