Podcast UFO: Recent Episodes
Martin Willis
Podcast UFO is place where you can listen to audio podcasts about UFOs, close encounters and people associated with the UFO phenomenon. Witnesses involved in such things as sightings, views on cover-ups and more. Listeners are welcome to interact with guests, visit the website to find out how. Shows are recorded live on YouTube stream every Tuesday evening, 6:00 to 8:00PM ET.
It often happens that reported UFO incidents get lost when the media is focused on one of more reports that might be more sensational. This seems to have been the situation in Italy in 1979. There had been a flap in Italy throughout 1978 and a case in December involving a security guard in Torriglia, Fortunato Zanfretta, who claimed with corroboration from supervisors, coworkers, and the Carabinieri (Italian military police) that he had been abducted by huge yellow-eyed creatures on multiple occasions, dominated the news in Italy at that time. What seems like it should have received a good deal of attention from not only the press, but investigators as well, is a case that was reported in an Irish newspaper on January 3, 1979. An extensive search that included the publications of the major foreign and domestic UFO organizations in existence at the time, and even Italian UFO publications, found no other mentions of a case that involved the Interior Ministry and reports by several Rome police officers.
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Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild joins Martin Willis for a thought-provoking conversation about UFOs, extraterrestrial life, disclosure, and what confirmation of nonhuman intelligence could mean for religion. Rothschild recounts his own close sighting of a bright orange plasma-like object and explains why he believes some UFOs may represent nonhuman intelligence. They explore whether extraterrestrial life would challenge Judaism, possible interpretations of Ezekiel’s wheel, Kabbalah, consciousness, alleged abduction experiences, government transparency, whistleblower protections, and former Israeli space security chief Chaim Eshed’s controversial claims concerning a Galactic Federation and extraterrestrial cooperation. The conversation ultimately asks whether humanity is ready for disclosure and why an advanced intelligence might choose ambiguity instead of unmistakable open contact.
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Filmmaker Luigi Vendittelli, director and producer of S4: The Bob Lazar Story, joins Martin Willis for a spirited and sometimes heated examination of Bob Lazar’s extraordinary and controversial claims. Martin remains deeply skeptical, while Luigi spent four and a half years working with Lazar and believes important parts of his story deserve serious consideration. They discuss Lazar’s disputed education, Los Alamos employment, alleged security clearance and work at S4, inconsistencies in his descriptions of the Sport Model, Papoose Lake, Element 115, the reported test flight, the lack of independently verifiable evidence and whether Lazar should truly be considered a whistleblower. It is a candid conversation between two people with very different perspectives who are willing to challenge one another without pretending they agree.
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Retired NASA aerospace engineer Greg Martins joins Martin Willis to discuss his 35-year career at Goddard Space Flight Center, a childhood UFO sighting and his claimed extraterrestrial encounters through dreams, meditation and out-of-body experiences. Greg also explores consciousness, the Akashic Records, “home planets,” Oversouls and the experiences described in his book, Star Journey Home. Martin approaches these extraordinary claims with an open mind and gentle skepticism.
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Former senior NASA official and space policy expert Mike Gold joins Martin Willis and special co-host, astronomer Marc D’Antonio, for a candid discussion about NASA, UAP and the stigma that continues to discourage serious scientific investigation. Gold explains that NASA’s UAP Independent Study Team was never asked to examine historical cases or analyze UAP evidence; instead, it was tasked with determining whether NASA should investigate the subject and which agency resources could be used. He discusses proposals to employ artificial intelligence and machine learning to search NASA’s enormous archives, add UAP to NASA’s confidential Aviation Safety Reporting System, and independently examine unexplained imagery from the Moon, Mars and space—including the unusual triangular formation photographed during Apollo 17. The conversation also examines allegations of altered or withheld NASA imagery, professional threats faced by academics who merely ask questions about UAP, and why Gold believes stigma creates a national security vulnerability by providing potential cover for adversarial drones. Gold says disclosure should be viewed as a continuing process of releasing and objectively examining data, and he believes increasingly significant material may emerge as the government works through declassification. The discussion concludes with commercial spaceflight, SpaceX, America’s competition with China, manufacturing human tissue and pharmaceuticals in microgravity, the future of Mars exploration, and why greater government transparency could help restore public trust. Join us for a thoughtful, science-based conversation that follows the evidence without assuming the answer.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Recently, there have been reports throughout the media that FBI files concerning a UFO sighting reported by three Anoka, Minnesota, police officers have been declassified and are available at the National Archives. Remarkably, almost none of the media outlets covering the story provide a link to the actual document with the exception one news outlet, KARE 11, which was kind enough to provide a pdf with one of the FBI documents and related material from Americans for Safe Aerospace and the National UFO Reporting Center.There is an article by Conor Wight on the CBS News site (updated May 28, 2026) headlined “Newly declassified FBI documents detail UFO sighting by Anoka officers — and one of them filmed it.” Wight is with CBS Minnesota and starts his story with this: “Buried within the National Archives is an unexplained sighting from right here in Minnesota.”Buried is an apt description, as the documents were quite hard to find in the National Archives Catalogue, but a search within “Group 16: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection,” brought us to records from the FBI, which led us to the files related to the Anoka case, which are the top three in a series of six results.
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Filmmaker Darcy Weir joins Martin Willis and UFO Jack for a candid conversation about psychic phenomena, remote viewing, UFO experiencers, whistleblowers, and separating credible evidence from compelling fiction. They explore Project Stargate, Phil Schneider, Travis Walton, Bob Lazar, government disinformation, secret technology, CE5, Jake Barber, and strange entities reported in cases such as Voronezh and Pascagoula. Visit PodcastUFO.com to explore hundreds of historical UFO articles by Charles Lear and support the show for an ad-free experience.
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Astronomer and veteran photo/video analyst Marc D’Antonio joins Martin Willis to examine highlights from the 40 UAP files released by the government on July 10. Marc analyzes several intriguing images and videos, including possible aerostats, balloon clusters, fast-moving objects, and the widely discussed “star-shaped UFO.” He explains how infrared sensors, diffraction, parallax, camera movement, and missing metadata can make ordinary objects appear extraordinary—and identifies one case that remains a genuine puzzle. Marc also shares his own unexplained observation of two satellite-like lights making a dramatic 40-degree turn.
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Historian Samantha Graves briefly shares a new research questionnaire collecting close-encounter reports from Western Massachusetts and the Berkshires. Then filmmaker Dean Alioto joins Martin Willis to discuss The Experiencers: Full Disclosure, an eight-year documentary project exploring classic abduction cases, contemporary experiencers, shared encounters, regression research, PTSD, and the challenge of presenting extraordinary testimony with credibility and empathy. They also examine why experiencers remain largely absent from congressional UAP hearings and why their stories may be essential to any meaningful discussion of full disclosure. The film is available on Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV+.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear By the time Project Blue Book was terminated, most UFO researchers, especially in the United States, were of the opinion that UFOs were nuts and bolts craft piloted by flesh and blood creatures from other planets. This is what has become known as the extraterrestrial hypothesis or ETH. At around the same time, as the 1960s gave way to the 1970s, Jacques Vallée had one book published and John Keel had two published, that challenged the ETH, and caused many in the UFO community to consider other options.Vallée had his first UFO book, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, published in 1965 and his second, Challenge to Science, co-written with his wife, Janine, published in 1966. Both books make the argument that the UFO mystery is worthy of scientific study and present the elements of the problem in an organized manner in an effort to facilitate such study. In what would become characteristic in Vallée’s books, he presents accounts going back to antiquity, and he presents a lot of them. The books are lengthy and dry and hold little appeal for the average UFO enthusiast looking for sensational accounts of sightings and encounters.
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NOTE: There is an occasional echo with Tim's audio that was only caught in postproduction, but the echo is mostly toward the end. I had it worked on for several hours, and improved it as much as possible. ~ Former Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet returns to Podcast UFO for an in-depth discussion of UAP, USO, ocean mysteries, government transparency, and the search for answers. Gallaudet clarifies his role on the newly formed UAP Science Advisory Council reporting to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, alongside Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. He discusses the council’s effort to obtain and analyze Pentagon UAP data, including reports involving possible anomalous objects detected by U.S. submarines. The conversation focuses heavily on undersea anomalies. Gallaudet describes reported encounters in which submarine crews detected objects moving at extraordinary speeds underwater, including one alleged sonar contact recorded at 80 knots. He explains why the oceans, much of which remain poorly explored, may be a logical place for elusive phenomena to operate beyond public observation. We also discuss metallic sphere reports, unreleased military video, the need for rigorous scientific study, artificial intelligence in UAP research, compartmentalization within government programs, and whether the public is finally moving closer to meaningful disclosure. Tim also talks about his new book, Holding Fast in Heavy Seas, a leadership memoir reflecting on his Navy career and his time leading NOAA through difficult political and scientific challenges. Could UAP represent advanced adversary technology, unknown engineering, or something genuinely non-human? Tim Gallaudet explains why either possibility deserves serious attention.
**PLEASE NOTE: There is an occasional echo with Tim's audio that was not caught in production, but mostly toward the end. I had it worked on for several hours, and improved it as much as possible. I apologize, Martin
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear Among the many possible explanations for UFOs is that some UFOs might be creatures that live in the sky. The person who became best known for this idea was Trevor James Constable who presented it, along with infrared photos of what he claimed were bioforms invisible to the naked eye, in his 1958 book (as Trevor James) They Live in the Sky. James wasn’t alone in his belief, and the concept of sky creatures goes back farther than 1958 in both speculative literature and science fiction.A good starting point for the history of the sky-creatures hypothesis is the 1997 paper by Jerome Clark, Spacemen, Demons and Conspiracies, published by the Fund for UFO Research. Clark explores the many explanations for UFOs put forward throughout the years and looks at the SCH in the section “Secret Weapons and Space Animals.” After going into the speculation by people such as James Moseley, Leon Davidson, and Jacques Vallée that flying saucers/UFOs can be explained as classified secret weapons, Clark delves into the history of the sky-creature concept.
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Rony Vernet returns to Podcast UFO to discuss his field investigations into unusual phenomena reported in the Amazon rainforest and other remote regions of Brazil. An electrical engineer and researcher, Vernet shares accounts from indigenous communities involving luminous orbs, humanoid figures, strange lights, apparent equipment interference, and encounters that local residents believe originate from the forest itself. Martin and Rony also discuss the Peru flying humanoid reports, the Varginha case, alleged Brazilian military and police encounters with UAPs and beings, and the difficulty of collecting repeatable scientific data in unpredictable field conditions. Vernet explains his use of cameras, drones, infrared equipment, sensors, and other tools, along with why some of the most striking incidents reportedly involved lost or corrupted recordings. The conversation explores possible physical, spiritual, psychological, and interdimensional interpretations of the phenomenon, as well as Rony’s upcoming work and documentaries.
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Martin Willis is joined by Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for UFO Headlines, discussing the latest developments in the UAP and UFO world. Martin and Donna share highlights from the recent Disclosure Forum in Washington, DC, including Martin’s question to Representative Eric Burlison about government file releases, private-sector crash-retrieval claims, and the search for more meaningful transparency. The panel also discusses the latest UAP records release, unusual orb reports, the role of skeptics, government disclosure efforts, archival research, and major historic cases including Roswell, Ariel School, Phoenix Lights, and Rendlesham Forest. They also explore the larger questions: Could there be multiple intelligences behind the phenomenon, and what evidence would it take for the public to truly accept the reality of UAP?
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Guest Joe Biscotto, founder of the rapidly growing UAP Reporting Center and host of Beyond Top Secret. Joe discusses his background in law enforcement, his lifelong fascination with UFOs and the unexplained, and how he built one of the fastest-growing UAP news platforms online. We also talk about UFO disclosure, investigating sightings, social media’s impact on the subject, and his work with The Contact Report.
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Rhys Dalton-Morgan joins me from Contact in the Desert for a fascinating conversation about a remarkable family connection to one of Australia’s most intriguing UFO cases. Rhys’s grandfather, a decorated RAF fighter pilot and later operations head of the vast Woomera Test Range in South Australia, reportedly witnessed a bright disc-shaped object during the era of Black Knight rocket testing. According to Rhys’s research, the object was seen over the range by multiple personnel, appeared to circle a missile site, and then accelerated away at extraordinary speed. The case has since led Rhys into a deeper investigation of his grandfather’s military background, including a reported early involvement with a secret U.S.-U.K. UFO inquiry. We also discuss Rhys’s mother’s personal experiences, the role of respected Australian researcher Bill Chalker, the strange history surrounding Woomera, and some of Australia’s most compelling cases. Later, Rhys gives an excellent overview of the 1966 Westall school UFO incident, including the witnesses, reported landings, unusual aircraft, alleged military response, and some lesser-known details surrounding the event. We also touch on Australian high strangeness, alleged abduction cases, cryptid reports including the Yowie, and why the UFO phenomenon may be far more complex than simply unexplained technology.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Ted Bloecher, who passed away not too long ago at the age of 94, was a researcher/investigator who started out in the days of flying saucers as a founding member of Civilian Saucer Intelligence of New York and was active until the mid-1980s. He was an early researcher of humanoid reports starting in 1955, just after the 1954 French humanoid wave and the 1955 Kelly-Hopkinsville incident, and was the author of numerous publications on the subject. Tucked away in the United Kingdom file of the downloads section of the Archives for the Unexplained website is a report he wrote titled Close Encounters of the Third Kind that was published in 1977 by the British UFO Research Association. According to the introduction, the paper was prepared for a talk he gave at the BUFORA National UFO Conference at the Centre Hotel in Birmingham, England, in November 1976. The subtitle describes the paper as “The preliminary presentation of extensive study into UFO cases involving the reported sightings of humanoids and other alien beings.” In this blog, we’ll look at some of the highlights. Read more →
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Actor, writer, and technology innovator Sal Amato joins Martin Willis for a fascinating discussion on UFOs, disclosure, media influence, and the inspiration behind his upcoming novel, Hidden Powers: Disclosure From Within. Drawing from decades of interest in unexplained phenomena, technology, and human behavior, Sal shares his thoughts on historical UFO cases, the 1952 Washington, D.C. sightings, information control, and why curiosity is essential when exploring extraordinary claims. The conversation also explores how technology shapes public perception, the challenges of separating fact from fiction, and the themes of disclosure, power, and truth woven throughout his new book. An engaging discussion for anyone interested in UFOs, mysteries, and the bigger questions surrounding what we know—and what we may not know.
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Martin Willis is joined by Podcast UFO producer Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for a lively, spoiler-filled roundtable discussion of one of the most anticipated UFO films in recent memory. The panel shares their honest reactions to the movie, explores its many references to UFO history and lore, and debates whether Spielberg successfully captured the mystery, wonder, and complexity of the UFO phenomenon. Topics include experiencers, screen memories, government secrecy, whistleblowers, historical UFO cases, disclosure, and the film's surprising ending. Was Disclosure Day a groundbreaking UFO movie, a fun science-fiction adventure, or a missed opportunity? Tune in to hear a range of perspectives from voices deeply involved in the UFO community. Plus, the panel discusses some of the real-world UFO developments making headlines and what the movie may mean for public interest in the UFO topic going forward.
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Martin Willis welcomes Simon Bown, author of Aspects of Alien Abduction: Shocking UFO Encounters, Vol. 1. Simon discusses his own UFO sightings, a possible abduction memory recovered through hypnosis, and the recurring patterns he has found after interviewing hundreds of experiencers. Topics include consciousness, missing time, healing cases, family connections, and the mystery behind alien abduction reports.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear In the early years of the flying saucer/UFO mystery, magazines played a significant part in the public perception of the phenomenon. One of the most popular magazines in that era was LIFE, which started covering saucer/UFO news at the very beginning during the 1947 summer of the saucers. For anyone interested in the early history of the phenomenon, Archives for the Unexplained has a collection of related magazine articles which includes LIFE articles from 1947 t0 1966.In the article published in the July 1947 issue headlined “Speaking of Pictures… a Rash of Flying Disks Breaks Out Over the U.S.,” it is lamented that none of the many saucers seen that summer paused long enough to get its picture taken. There are pictures, however, of two fake saucers: one an obvious saw blade with what looks to be a capacitor attached to it held up by Reverend Joseph Brasky who claimed it hit the lightning rod of his church with an explosion, and the other an aluminum disk with what looks to be spent fireworks attached held up by a man from Shreveport, Louisiana, who said it flew out from behind a signboard.
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Recorded at Contact in the Desert, Martin Willis sits down with explorer Dennis Åsberg, discoverer of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, and astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroel of the VASCO Project. Dennis discusses new developments surrounding the anomaly, repeated equipment failures during expeditions, and the discovery of the lost Russian submarine Som, while Dr. Villarroel shares her groundbreaking research into unexplained transient objects, vanishing stars, and evidence suggesting highly reflective objects in Earth orbit. Together they explore the intersection of ocean exploration, astronomy, UFOs, scientific inquiry, and some of the most intriguing mysteries of our time.
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Preston Dennett returns to Podcast UFO to discuss his latest book, Humanoids & High Strangeness: 20 True UFO Encounters. In this fascinating conversation, Preston shares remarkable cases involving face-to-face encounters with mysterious beings, missing time, telepathic communication, giant owls, elf-like entities, and other bizarre experiences that challenge our understanding of the UFO phenomenon. Martin and Preston also explore schoolyard UFO encounters, witness credibility, differing memories among eyewitnesses, the famous Ariel School case, and the possible connection between UFO contact and consciousness. A thought-provoking discussion with one of ufology's most prolific researchers that ventures far beyond lights in the sky.
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In this special live episode, Martin Willis reviews the June 9 Capitol Hill UAP Disclosure Press Conference featuring David Grusch, James Fox, Leslie Kean, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, Rep. Tim Burchett, Rep. Eric Burlison, Rep. Jared Moskowitz, and others. The speakers called for increased transparency, declassification of government records, stronger whistleblower protections, and further investigation into claims involving recovered craft and non-human biologics. Grusch discussed ongoing oversight concerns, alleged obstruction of congressional inquiries, and the need for greater accountability. After the event, Martin was joined by Matt Ford of The Good Trouble Show, along with Krys Devine and Kelly Hughes, for an in-depth discussion of the key statements, potential implications, and what may come next in the ongoing disclosure effort.
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At Contact in the Desert, Martin Willis sits down with entrepreneur, AI researcher, and quantum computing expert Deep Prasad for a wide-ranging discussion that explores the intersection of artificial intelligence, consciousness, advanced physics, and the UFO phenomenon. Deep shares details of an extraordinary experience he had in 2019 that profoundly changed his understanding of reality and led him to explore questions surrounding non-human intelligence and consciousness. He also discusses the rapid advancement of AI, the promise and challenges of quantum computing, and how future technologies may help unlock some of the deepest mysteries surrounding UAP.
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Tonight on UFO Headlines, we're joined by UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich to discuss the latest developments in the UAP world. We'll cover the recent release of more than 160 government UAP files, the upcoming June 9 Capitol Hill press conference involving David Grusch and congressional transparency advocates, the controversy surrounding Aliens.gov, and some of the most talked-about cases emerging from the newly released documents. We'll also share our experiences from Contact in the Desert 2026, including standout presentations, behind-the-scenes conversations, and the overall mood of the UFO community regarding disclosure and the future of UAP investigations. Join us live and bring your questions and comments as we discuss the latest UFO headlines and what may be coming next.
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Whitley Strieber returns to Podcast UFO for a thought-provoking discussion on UFOs, non-human intelligence, Roswell, consciousness, AI, and the enduring mystery of contact. Best known for his groundbreaking book Communion, Strieber shares personal experiences, reflects on the impact of disclosure, discusses the possibility that UFO intelligences originate from another reality, and explains why he believes humanity may have lost abilities once possessed long ago. From the Allagash Abduction case and Roswell to artificial intelligence and the future of human consciousness, this conversation explores some of the deepest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon and our place in the universe. Whether you're a longtime follower of Strieber's work or new to these topics, this is an engaging and wide-ranging interview you won't want to miss.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
It’s always a plus when UFO cases come along with physical evidence to back them up. Sometimes this evidence is in the form of physiological effects on the witnesses, and cases involving these are numerous enough that investigators have been able to focus on them as a specific area of study. Conjunctivitis (burning red eyes), nausea, hair loss, numbness, paralysis, and burns are some of the symptoms commonly described, but a very unusual effect was reported in the following 1976 case from Bolton, England.While the incident was said to have occurred in 1976, it didn’t show up in major media until 1987. In the March 1987 issue (page 19 of the pdf) of She magazine, there is an article by Peter Hough headlined “The UFO in Armadale Road.” According to Hough, at 5:15 p.m. on January 23, 1976, 17-year-old Shelley McLenaghan had just gotten off a bus and was 100 yards from home when she saw a UFO. She is quoted as saying, “Before that, I would have thought anybody who said they’d seen a UFO was crazy.” She added, “I think the government know far more than they let on.”McLenaghan is then quoted describing her encounter:
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In this episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis and UFO Jack welcome Jordan Flowers of the Disclosure Foundation for a discussion on UFO disclosure, government transparency, classified file releases, and the growing momentum surrounding the UAP topic in Washington, D.C. Jordan discusses the impact of the 2017 The New York Times UFO article by Leslie Kean, the Disclosure Foundation’s work with FOIA requests and congressional briefings, recent NSA and military UAP releases, and the upcoming Disclosure Forum taking place June 25th in the historic Kennedy Caucus Room inside the U.S. Senate. Topics include national security, declassified documents, whistleblowers, public stigma, media coverage, and the future of UFO transparency and disclosure.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Recently, footage taken of a video that has been described by documentarian James Fox as the holy grail of UFO videos has been shown online. The original video on VHS had been in the possession of one of the early Area 51 researchers, Chuck Clark, since 1995. Clark was reportedly offered a large sum of money to turn over the video, and he refused, whereupon underhanded means were employed to get what was on it out to the public.This story goes all the way back to the 1990s when the United States was in the midst of its own special brand of paranoid UFOlogy, which emphasized government cover-ups and conspiracy theories fueled by the popularity of The X-Files. Area 51 had become the most famous secret base in the world after Bob Lazar, in silhouette using the name “Dennis,” was interviewed by George Knapp on KLAS in Las Vegas in May 1989. He claimed to have worked on reverse-engineering nine recovered alien space craft at a site he said was called “S-4” located in the southern section of Area 51.The excitement stirred up by Lazar’s claim resulted in a flood of UFO tourists descending on the area. Many would stop at the only bar in the nearby small town of Rachel, Nevada, a population that usually numbers around 50 people. According to the “Rachel Timeline” section of A Short History of Rachel, Nevada by Glenn Campbell and Edith Grover, Pat and Joe Travis bought the Rachel Bar and Grill in 1988. They renamed it “The Little A’Le’Inn” and held the first annual UFO conference there in July of 1990.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear | Read by Sam Milodragovich
For many years, stories of recovered crashed saucers and alien bodies were usually dismissed by investigators due to the stigma created by the effective debunking of the Aztec incident by J. P. Cahn in two articles he wrote for True magazine, the first in 1952 and the second in 1956. The stigma remained until the 1970s when influential researchers started becoming open to such cases, and an early story to come out during this period was that of a 1953 crash in Kingman, Arizona, that made the news in 1973. It was looked into by National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena investigator Raymond E. Fowler, who published an article covering it titled “What About Crashed UFOs?” in the April 1976 issue of Official UFO. Leonard Stringfield included the Kingman portion of it in his 1977 book, Situation Red! Read more →
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This week on Podcast UFO, Martin Willis welcomes researcher and author Christian Lambright for a wide-ranging conversation on UFO disclosure, government secrecy, witness testimony, and the legacy of legendary investigator Ray Stanford. The discussion begins with Neil deGrasse Tyson’s apparent shift in attitude toward UFOs and explores why mainstream scientists and media figures may now be taking the subject more seriously. Along the way, the conversation dives into the psychology of belief, the reliability of eyewitness accounts, and how memory and perception can shape extraordinary experiences. Christian also shares fascinating insights into Ray Stanford’s remarkable UFO photography and film archive, including discussion of the mysterious “beam ahead” footage and other little-known cases that continue to challenge conventional explanations. The episode examines famous sightings, government transparency, the possibility of hidden programs buried within private contractors, and whether disclosure may ultimately come from outside official channels altogether. Thought-provoking, skeptical, and open-minded, this is a deep discussion about one of the world’s greatest enduring mysteries.
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Throughout the 1950s and 60s, major science-based UFO organizations in the United States, and especially the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, looked down on contactee claims as ridiculous and unworthy of their time. This started to change as the 1970s got underway, due in part to the ideas put forward by Jacques Vallée and John Keel, but by the 1980s, things started going back to the way they were, at least in the United States. Investigators in other countries, however, stayed open to such reports, and in this week’s blog, we’ll look at a 1983 case from Brazil as it was presented in the British publication, Flying Saucer Review. Read more →
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Robert Powell joins Podcast UFO to discuss the controversial May 8 UFO file release and why SCU says much of the material lacks the metadata needed for real scientific analysis. We discuss over-classification, AI-assisted UAP research, the Aguadilla case, government transparency, and the growing involvement of academia in UFO studies. Robert also previews the SCU 2026 Conference in Toronto featuring Christopher Mellon, Dr. Randy Bostick, Kevin Knuth, and many others.
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Martin Willis & Dean Alioto speak with Bogna Konior, author of The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet, about the surprising connection between artificial intelligence, the internet, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Drawing from the dark forest theory, she explores the idea that true intelligence may remain hidden, avoiding detection in a potentially hostile environment. The conversation covers whether the internet itself is a form of first contact, how AI may already be learning from human communication, and why advanced intelligence might choose silence over expression. This thought-provoking discussion challenges how we think about AI, communication, and the possibility that contact may already be underway in ways we do not fully understand.
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In this episode of UFO Headlines, Martin Willis and UFO Jack break down a wave of recent developments in the UFO world. They discuss the disappearance of a scientist tied to the topic, revisit an old but revealing interview involving Tom DeLonge, and examine new claims from David Grusch suggesting a possible near-term shift in public disclosure. The conversation also explores internal disagreements among officials, speculation about hidden programs, and reactions to a controversial warning from a religious leader about a coming alien narrative. The episode closes with commentary on Barack Obama’s remarks about extraterrestrials and whether governments can truly keep secrets. A wide-ranging discussion that balances curiosity, skepticism, and the ongoing search for answers.
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John and E.J. Craig, a husband and wife UFO research team based in Colorado, discuss their new platform UFO Track, designed to detect and report UAP activity in real time. Instead of relying on after the fact sightings, their system alerts nearby users instantly so multiple witnesses can observe and document the same event. We talk about their sensor technology, triangulation methods, and the idea of proactive disclosure, empowering the public to help gather meaningful data. It is an interesting look at how coordinated, real time reporting could shape the future of UFO research.
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Blog by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear Amidst the many assorted descriptions of UFO-related entities, silver-suited humanoids, sometimes with antennas, show up in many reports. They are described repeatedly in the 1976 Center for UFO Studies publication by David Webb, 1973 – Year of the Humanoids, and there were several reports during the 1977 flap in what has been called “The Welsh Triangle” that we wrote about recently. In this week’s blog, we’ll look at a couple of cases from the Southern United States, the second of which became quite well-known.In the January 4, 1981, issue of The Robesonian out of Lumberton, North Carolina, there is an article (page 7 of the pdf) by Tim Lewis headlined “Shining Silver Man Stalks Forest Acres Area.” According to Lewis, the previous Tuesday at around 10 p.m., a couple had just exited Barker Ten Mile Road when they saw a round flashing light near the turnoff at Bee Gee and McLeod. As they got closer, they were able to determine that the light was located in a vacant wooded lot. Read more →
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When I was in grade school, I opened a pack of bubblegum that had science facts inside. I never forgot reading that “a teaspoon of a black hole could weigh tons.” That idea stuck with me. Black holes were once just a strange idea on paper, but today we know they sit at the center of nearly every large galaxy, including our own. In this episode, we explore how something invisible can shape entire galaxies, and how scientists have managed to detect black holes without ever seeing them directly. Martin breaks down Einstein’s ideas on gravity, how collapsing stars create black holes, and what it really means when one is millions of times the mass of our Sun. You’ll also hear just how extreme these objects are, with densities so intense that a teaspoon of similar material could weigh billions of tons. From exploding stars to gravitational waves, this is a clear and fascinating look at one of the most mysterious forces in the universe.
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In this episode of Podcast UFO, I’m joined by Miguel Sancho, executive producer of the HISTORY® series The Proof Is Out There® and author of Evidence of the Extraordinary. We discuss how his team evaluates UFO sightings and unexplained phenomena using a mix of journalistic rigor, scientific analysis, and expert review—revealing that most cases can be explained, while a select few remain truly puzzling. Miguel also shares insights from his book, exploring how our perception of reality can be challenged by experiences that don’t fit conventional explanations. From AI-generated hoaxes and government disclosure to credible UFO cases and even mysteries in our oceans, this conversation takes a grounded look at what holds up under investigation—and what still defies explanation.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear Timothy Green BeckleyAmong UFO enthusiasts, in between the serious, science-based researchers and the crackpots, there are people who enjoy the mystery for the fantastic tales and the colorful people it spawns, as well as the social interaction with the like-minded. One of the first examples of this sort of person was Gray Barker, who became known for his 1956 book They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers. He became good friends with James W. Moseley, who would become well-known as the publisher of Saucer Smear magazine, and the two of them became notorious for pranking and poking fun at what they considered their over-serious peers. As the 1960s got under way, a group formed around Moseley, who was based in Fort Lee, New Jersey. This included Allan Greenfield, Eugene Steinberg, and Timothy Green Beckley. Of these, Beckley, Like Barker, would become a prolific publisher of UFO-related material, and in 1978, he started putting out UFO Review, which was a tabloid-style newspaper chock full of UFO news, reports, interviews, and lurid ads for UFO books, UFO merchandise, new age self-help guides and related paraphernalia. Read more →
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From the Archives: (2012) Interview with the late John Lear, (1942-2022) ~ In this archival episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis sits down with legendary aviator and controversial UFO figure John Lear for a candid and wide-ranging conversation. John Lear, son of William Lear and a record-holding pilot with extensive experience flying worldwide, shares how his interest in UFOs began with early sightings and grew through decades of aviation and firsthand experiences. Highlights from this interview include: Lear’s early UFO encounters, including a childhood sighting and a mysterious object observed while piloting a Learjet at high altitude His time flying CIA-related missions in Southeast Asia and other regions Inside stories about Bob Lazar, including how they met and Lear’s perspective on Lazar’s claims about Groom Lake and S-4 A detailed account of the famous 1989 desert observation of a disc-shaped craft during a reported test flight Personal reflections on Paul Bennewitz and the controversies surrounding disinformation and the Dulce base narrative Discussion of the so-called “Krill memo” and early attempts to document alleged alien research Lear offers his unfiltered opinions on some of the most debated figures and cases in UFO history, providing insight into a period when many of these stories first gained traction. This is a short but compelling segment that captures the mindset and claims of one of ufology’s most talked-about personalities.
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Martin Willis interviews filmmaker Ron James, Head of MUFON Media, about his new documentary Accidental Truth: Next and the current state of UFO Disclosure.Ron shares behind-the-scenes insights from Washington, D.C., including conversations connected to lawmakers such as Tim Burchett and Kirsten Gillibrand, and discusses whether the ongoing UAP narrative is true transparency, or a controlled rollout. Topics include Congressional hearings, limited vs full disclosure, missing scientists, MUFON’s role behind the scenes, and how the UFO subject may be shifting beyond “nuts and bolts” into deeper questions about reality itself. Ron also previews Accidental Truth: Next, premiering June 1 at Contact in the Desert and streaming June 2.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In 1977, there was a flap in the area of St. Brides Bay in Pembrokeshire, Wales, that involved reported sightings of craft and humanoids. The most well-known incident involved 14 Broad Haven Primary School students running inside to tell their headmaster that they had seen a yellow cigar-shaped craft land in a field. On February 17, three staff members reported they saw the same craft. The story made national news thanks to British UFO Research Association investigator and UFO Investigators Network correspondent Randall Jones Pugh, and a flap began that would result in the area being referred to as “The Welsh Triangle.” A lesser-known case involved an entire family that reported a series of strange events which Pugh covered in articles published in issues of Flying Saucer Review and the BUFORA Journal.In April, while driving, Pauline Coombes and three (out of four) of her children were reportedly chased by a football shaped UFO. Later that year, in October, Coombes, her four children, and her mother reportedly witnessed a craft and humanoids that behaved in an especially bizarre manner. It came out that all sorts of strange happenings were said to have been occurring on the family homestead called Ripperston Farm. Journalist Clive Harold got close to the family and wrote a book about their experiences titled, “The Uninvited.”
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Last week, Nick Pope, full name Nicholas George Pope, passed away on April 6th at the age of 60. A fixture in the UFO scene, Pope first gained notoriety with his 1996 book, Open Skies, Closed Minds. Besides providing an overview of UFO history up to that point, the book has an autobiographical account of his time as the head of the “UFO desk” at the Ministry of Defense from 1991 t0 1994. After the book came out, he became a go-to “UFO expert” whenever an authoritative comment was needed to punch up a news story. He maintained his interest and a media presence and was sought after as a speaker at conventions and a commentator in various documentaries. By the time of his passing, he was a well-known personality in the UFOtainment industry, having appeared regularly on Ancient Aliens and at Contact in the Desert. In the midst of his notoriety and association with the more sensationalistic aspects of UFOlogy, his commentary seemed to be heartfelt and true to his actual beliefs.According to Pope in his book, he was a skeptic before he was assigned to the “UFO desk” in Secretariat (Air Staff) Department 2A at the Ministry of Defense. He had been with the MoD since 1985, and personnel were shifted to different sections every three to four years as a matter of policy to give them “a breadth of knowledge and experience.” When he was assigned to deal with UFO reports, he took it upon himself to learn as much as he could about the subject, and the comprehensive historical overview in the book shows the depth of his research.Besides studying UFO history, Pope reached out to British UFO researchers, such as Timothy Good who wrote the Foreword of the book, and established relationships with organizations such as the British UFO Research Organization. This set him apart from his predecessors and helped diminish the us-and-them perception between the MoD and the British UFO community. Read more →
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In this live episode of Podcast UFO, I’m joined by Ron Janix for an in-depth and wide-ranging discussion on the current state of UFO disclosure, the upcoming Contact in the Desert conference, and the legacy of the late Nick Pope. We reflect on Pope’s impact as a steady and respected voice in the field, sharing personal stories and why his presence will be deeply missed within the community. Ron also breaks down what makes Contact in the Desert one of the most important UFO gatherings in the world—from major speakers and film premieres to the unique experience of connecting directly with researchers, filmmakers, and attendees. We also explore the ongoing conversation around UFO disclosure, including the recent failure to release the much-anticipated 46 government videos, and what that may signal about transparency moving forward. Along the way, we discuss consciousness, the unknown nature of UFO phenomena, and why the deeper you go into this subject, the more complex—and mysterious—it becomes. This conversation also touches on personal experiences, the evolution of interest in UFOs, and broader questions about reality itself. From possible interdimensional explanations to skepticism about official disclosure, this episode captures both the excitement and uncertainty surrounding one of the most compelling mysteries of our time.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In 1980, The Roswell Incident by Charles Berlitz and William Moore was published. In the book, on page 103 of the first printing, there is a bad photocopy of a photo showing two soldiers escorting a small creature. One of the soldiers is carrying a suitcase-shaped object that seems to be a respiration device, as there is a hose going from it to the creature’s mouth. The photo is said to have “reportedly first surfaced in Wiesbaden, Germany.” In 1981, Wiesbaden resident Klaus Webner took it upon himself to investigate. He wrote an article presenting his findings that was published in the September 1981 issue of The Probe Report, put out by the Britain-based Probe UFO Research Organization.In the book, the photocopy is presented with the caption “Alien from Another World or Elaborate Hoax?” The reader is told that it, along with the “artist’s interpretation” on the preceding page, is being published “without comment about whether it may or may not pertain to certain significant aspects of the Roswell Incident.” According to the authors, “an unnamed informant” gave the original photo, which he said he bought for a dollar, to FBI agent John Quinn at the New Orleans field office. They say the photo “purports to show an alien survivor of a UFO crash in the custody of two U.S. military policeman.” Lastly, they say that it got “limited publicity in West Germany in the 1940s” and was met “with skepticism by U.S. officials of the then-existent Allied Military Government.” Read more →
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(Note: Pre-Recorded, we are sorry to hear the loss of Nick Pope who succumbed to cancer yesterday 4-6-26 ❤️. I did a 9 minute tribute: HERE ) In this episode, Martin Willis speaks with Andy McGrillen of That UFO Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on the global UFO topic, contrasting perspectives from the United States and the United Kingdom, and the evolving media landscape surrounding the phenomenon. Andy shares the personal sighting from his childhood that sparked his lifelong interest in UFOs, along with how that early experience shaped his curiosity and eventual path into podcasting. The discussion explores why UFO discourse appears heavily centered in the United States, examining differences in government transparency, the role of the Pentagon versus the UK Ministry of Defence, and how media coverage and public engagement differ across both countries. The conversation also dives into the impact of high-profile figures such as David Grusch, whose testimony brought unprecedented mainstream attention to the topic, and how credibility, messaging, and restraint have influenced public perception. Martin and Andy examine the challenges of balancing serious investigation with entertainment in today’s rapidly expanding UFO media space, including the explosion of podcasts and influencer-driven content. They also discuss well-known and debated cases, including the Phoenix Lights, the Tic Tac encounter, and classic incidents like Ariel School, while sharing differing perspectives on controversial figures such as Bob Lazar. Andy also talks about his recently published book, which presents a global overview of UFO cases designed to introduce readers to both famous and lesser-known incidents. Throughout the episode, the discussion remains grounded, thoughtful, and open-minded—exploring not just what we know, but how we interpret what we think we know about the phenomenon. If you enjoy in-depth, balanced conversations on UFOs, this episode offers a compelling transatlantic perspective on one of the most enduring mysteries of our time.That UFO Podcast website:https://www.thatufopodcast.com
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
As anyone who has looked into the subject of UFO-related humanoids knows, reported creatures come in all shapes and sizes. Some are more unusual than others, and a pair of creatures said to be seen in Italy in 1978 definitely stand out.In the Vol. 28, No. 6, issue (page 15 of the pdf) of Flying Saucer Review, there is an article by Antonio Chiumiento headlined “An Encounter with ‘Rat-Faces’ in Italy.” The article was translated from Italian and Chiumiento is described as an “Investigator and member of the board of directors of C.U.N. (Italian National UFO Research Centre, Turin.)”According to Chiumiento, on the morning of November 24, 1978, 61-year-old Gallio resident, Angelo D’Ambros, went to get some firewood in nearby Gastagh. At about a quarter before noon, he turned to put down a branch he had been chopping up when he “was gripped with horror” upon seeing two creatures looking at him that were “extremely close.”
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Join Martin Willis and UFO Jack for the premiere episode of UFO Headlines, a new monthly series covering the latest developments, controversies, and breaking stories in the world of UFOs and UAP. In this episode, we explore alarming drone incursions over U.S. military bases, including activity near strategic nuclear assets, and discuss what this could mean for national security, along with the ongoing mystery surrounding the disappearance of Major General William Neil McCasland and other unusual cases involving scientists and defense-related personnel. The conversation also dives into explosive claims circulating in Washington, including alleged hybrid programs and statements from members of Congress, while taking a critical look at the controversial “Buga Sphere,” Dr. Steven Greer’s upcoming event, and the broader issues of credibility, evidence, and misinformation in the field. We also touch on NASA’s Artemis mission, strange aerial anomalies observed during launches, and the growing push for transparency, including efforts to release additional UAP footage. This is a wide-ranging, candid discussion blending skepticism, curiosity, and real-time analysis of today’s most talked-about UFO topics, and UFO Headlines airs the first Thursday of every month so join us live and be part of the conversation. SHOW NOTES
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Astronomer Marc D'Antonio joins me to explore whether we may have fundamental aspects of the universe wrong. From surprisingly mature galaxies spotted by the James Webb Space Telescope to the accelerating expansion of the cosmos, we discuss how new observations are challenging the Big Bang timeline and our understanding of dark matter and dark energy. We also dive into how stars create the elements, why gravity remains one of the biggest mysteries in physics, and what we actually know, only about 4% of the universe. Plus, Marc shares a fascinating look at theoretical UFO propulsion, including the idea of traveling through higher dimensions as a shortcut across vast distances. A thought-provoking conversation on cosmology, physics, and the unknown.
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Near the end of the 20th century, human abducting, cattle mutilating, Grey aliens flying sport-model saucers dominated the popular UFO narrative. However, there are reports that differ greatly from such accounts that offer insight into what might be an even stranger phenomenon. In the September 12, 1999, edition of the Trenque Lauquen paper, La Opinión, there is an article (page 16 of the pdf) headlined “Extraterrestrial Encounter?” It tells the tale, mostly in the words of the witness, Carlos Colón, a resident of Trenque Lauquen, who said he had a strange encounter on August 25th. During a follow-up investigation by a Spanish UFOlogist almost 20 years later, Colón shared details of the aftereffects of his encounter which he had formerly chosen not to share with the press and other investigators.According to the article, Colón was “a well-known mechanic of agricultural machinery” and often travelled on the roads around Trenque Lauquen in his pickup truck. He had originally wanted to keep his story to himself and was still concerned that he wouldn’t be taken seriously. Read more →
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
On January 20, 2026, Francis Lee Ridge passed away. His contributions to UFO investigation and research spanned six decades, and thanks to his efforts, a treasure trove of historical UFO-related material is available to anyone with an internet connection.According to Ridge’s bio at nicap.org, he was born on October 13, 1942. In 1960, he became an active investigator as head of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena Indiana Subcommittee and remained in that position until 1970.
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In this fascinating conversation, Martin Willis speaks with Jay Hammen, a school psychologist and longtime UFO researcher, about a theory that attempts to connect UAP sightings, entities, consciousness, trauma, telepathy, altered states, and other high-strangeness phenomena into one larger framework. Drawing from thinkers such as Jacques Vallée, Carl Jung, and Terence McKenna, Jay lays out the idea of a “field” of consciousness that may help explain why the phenomenon can appear physical at times, yet deeply psychological or interdimensional at others. Jay also shares personal experiences that shaped his thinking, including an unusual UAP sighting in Florida, synchronicities, meditation experiences, and observations from his professional life that led him to question whether trauma and altered perception may play some role in how certain phenomena are experienced. The discussion moves into remote viewing, missing time, Rendlesham, Ariel School, Skinwalker Ranch, and the possibility that disclosure may be far more difficult than people imagine if the truth is stranger than a simple extraterrestrial explanation. This is a thought-provoking episode for anyone interested in the deeper side of the UFO mystery, especially the consciousness and interdimensional aspects that continue to surface in witness accounts and modern UAP discussions. Whether you agree or disagree, Jay presents a compelling attempt to connect many of the most puzzling threads in ufology.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In 1969, Passport to Magonia by Jacques Vallée was published. Its central thesis is that there may be a link between folklore, particularly stories of the Fae folk, and UFO lore. In the Vol. 25, No. 6, issue (page 25 of the pdf) of Flying Saucer Review, there is an article by Eileen Morris headlined “The Winged Beings of Bluestone Walk” covering a case that certainly seems to support Vallée’s ideas.According to Morris, a “necessarily brief” version of the story told by Jean Hingley first appeared in the January 12, 1979, edition of The Dudley Herald. She says she met Hingley and her husband “a number of times” both at their residence and at her own, and describes them as “honest, hard-working people.” She took notes and used them to type up Hingley’s version of events and then had Hingley read it. Hingley was “satisfied that it is accurate.”According to the account written as if Hingley was telling it in the first person, she lived “in a small council house in Bluestone Walk, Rowley Regis, near Birmingham,” with her husband, Cyril, and their Alsatian, Hobo. On January 4, 1979, it was a cold, dark morning, and there was snow on the ground as she saw her husband off to his job at a cement works (she worked at a company that made soundproofing for cars). She was at the back door of the house that opened out to the road, and as her husband drove off, she noticed a light from the area of the garden. Read more →
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Martin Willis welcomes Jeff Selver to discuss experiences that Jeff says began in adolescence and continued over many years. In this interview, Jeff recounts alleged encounters with Grey beings, memory suppression, regression sessions, unusual physical marks, and what he believes was a broader contact process connected to consciousness and spirituality. The conversation explores experiencer testimony, possible links between UFO encounters and altered states, the role of belief and interpretation, and Jeff’s view that the phenomenon may involve dimensions or realities not yet understood by science.
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Martin Willis welcomes Christopher Sharp of Liberation Times, and formerly the Daily Mail, for a wide-ranging conversation on UFO/UAP journalism, disclosure, secrecy, and why this subject is finally being taken seriously by more mainstream reporters. Because of the UK–U.S. time difference, this interview was pre-recorded, but the discussion is timely and deeply relevant to where the topic stands today. Christopher talks about how his interest in the phenomenon evolved, from childhood curiosity to serious investigative reporting, and explains why the post-2017 landscape changed everything for journalists and the public alike. He and Martin also explore the psychology behind why some people remain completely uninterested in the subject, while others become intensely engaged once they begin looking at the evidence. The conversation also dives into some of the biggest current issues in the field: alleged drone incursions, secrecy surrounding retrieval programs, possible reverse-engineering efforts, the role of the U.S. military and intelligence community, and why so much of the disclosure story appears centered in the United States. Christopher shares his perspective on recent reporting involving Patuxent River, James Clapper, Neal McCasland, and the broader push toward government transparency. This is an in-depth and thought-provoking interview about where the UFO/UAP topic may be heading next, what real disclosure could look like, and why bipartisan interest in Washington may matter more than ever. Visit Liberation Times for Christopher Sharp’s reporting, and be sure to subscribe to Podcast UFO for more interviews and discussions on the mystery.
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The cattle mutilation mystery and its association with UFO activity didn’t get the attention of researcher investigators until the 1970s. There is an article on page 2 of the March 1975 APRO Bulletin, headlined “More on Mutilations,” discussing the findings of APRO Field Investigators Bill Pitt, Lee Spiegel, and Kevin Randle. It was the opinion of APRO at the time that “no satisfactory evidence has emerged which links UFOs to mutilated animals.” The first mutilation to get the public’s attention was that of a horse named Snippy found by its owners in the San Luis Valley of Colorado on September 8, 1967. Shortly after that, in his article (page 8 of the pdf) in the July/August 1968 Flying Saucer Review headlined “West Virginia’s Enigmatic Bird,” John Keel mentions that cow and horse mutilations are “now common” in the midst of sightings of the Mothman and UFOs in the area around Point Pleasant. However, there is a report far earlier than this that, by most accounts, appeared in the April 23, 1897, Yates Center Farmer’s Advocate. This involves a mystery airship caught in the act of abducting a cow right in front of prominent Woodson County, Kansas, citizen Alexander Hamilton (not the one on the 20-dollar bill). While the Advocate article remains elusive, Redditt user Remseey2907 found an article in what appears to be the Globe Democrat that includes the details of and references the Advocate article. Read more →
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Martin Willis and co-host UFO Jack welcome author and musician Mike Fiorito to discuss the intriguing relationship between music, consciousness, and the UFO phenomenon. Fiorito suggests that music may be a universal form of communication, pointing to birdsong and the presence of music in every human culture as evidence that intelligent life naturally expresses itself through sound. The conversation explores how music creates wordless connections between people, whether through performing, dancing, or shared listening. Fiorito describes music as a “thought form” that carries cultural history and emotional depth, often communicating ideas and feelings that language cannot easily express. The discussion then turns to the idea of sound as a kind of technology of consciousness. Fiorito explains how frequencies, rhythm, and musical immersion can shift awareness into altered or meditative states, potentially opening perception to deeper layers of reality where anomalous experiences sometimes occur. Referencing figures like Sun Ra and broader cultural traditions that treat musicians as healers, the conversation suggests that music may help bypass the rational mind and access a more expansive sense of awareness. While the UFO mystery remains unresolved, the guests conclude that music offers a powerful pathway into curiosity, wonder, and a deeper exploration of both inner and outer worlds..
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear On October 7, 1977, Prime Minister of Grenada Sir Eric Gairy gave a 90-minute speech during the 32nd session of the General Assembly of the United Nations urging the organization to create an agency that would monitor UFOs. This led to a presentation and panel discussion over one year later, organized and produced by Lee Speigel, that included Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Dr. Jacques Vallée, and Col. Gordon Cooper. While this was considered a high point at the time in terms of gaining respectability for the UFO Waldheim Meeting. Credit: ICUFON Archives subject (Grenada issued a set of stamps in 1978 commemorating Gairy’s efforts) and still is today, not everyone was happy about it, particularly the directors of the Scientific Bureau of Investigation, formed in January of 1979. Read more →
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear For many people growing up in the 1970s (of which this writer is one), seeing a UFO documentary was their first in-depth look into the subject. These films often came along with books tied in, and major publishers such as Bantam were getting onboard. More and more people were willing to accept the idea that UFOs were worthy of serious consideration, and this meant that more and more people were willing to spend money on movies and books covering the subject. What had formerly been mostly confined to a subculture of enthusiasts, was now becoming a somewhat profitable entertainment industry. Indeed, it may come as a surprise to some readers, but between the summer of the saucers in 1947, and 1968, there were only two documentaries made in the midst of all the science fiction saucer films that became popular starting in the 1950s.The beginning of the 1970s wave of UFO documentaries can be traced back to the 1968 book Erinnerungen an die Zukunft (Memories of the Future) by Erich von Däniken published by Econ-Verlag in West Germany. The book not only whetted the public’s appetite for UFOs and aliens (especially ancient ones), but opened up the doors for all things strange and mysterious, including Bigfoot, the Bermuda Triangle, ghosts, and lake monsters. Read more →
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Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman, creators of NBC’s Dark Skies, join Podcast UFO to discuss the strange real-life event that sparked their new investigative podcast, Sound, Light & Frequency. They share how their personal interest in UFOs began (including Bryce’s childhood discovery of the McMinnville “Trent Farm” photos, and Brent’s startling “aliens are real” disclosure from a Reagan-era family friend), plus Brent’s more recent UFO-style sighting during the Perseid meteor shower on Vancouver Island, tiny star-like lights moving erratically and seeming to drop into the ocean. The conversation turns to why witnesses stay silent, including stories Bryce heard from strangers after Dark Skies aired, schoolyard sightings with dozens of witnesses that never made the news, followed by families insisting: “don’t ever talk about it.” From there, Bryce and Brent explain the premise of Sound, Light & Frequency: an active investigation into whether Hollywood has been part of a long “chicken-and-egg” feedback loop with UFO culture, did filmmakers invent ideas that later entered ufology, or were real narratives quietly fed into film and TV? They preview their central claim: a mysterious “Man in Black”-type figure crashed their Dark Skies premiere party in the 1990s, claimed ties to the Office of Naval Intelligence, and allegedly offered a “deal” connected to a slow-drip disclosure program, truth inserted into fiction. They won’t fully reveal the details here (they insist listeners start with Episode 1), but they confirm follow-up meetings occurred and that the encounter never stopped haunting them. They also reveal how Dark Skies was sold with an elaborate “top secret” style series bible mapping a multi-season timeline, then the eerie twist: the exact “cover of fiction to tell truth” concept they pitched to networks later appeared to boomerang back on them in real life. The episode closes with their plan to examine iconic UFO films and series (Close Encounters, Contact, The Abyss, The X-Files, V, and more), vet tips from insiders, and look for patterns, without claiming they already have the answers.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Brazil has a history of official UFO investigation almost as long as that of the United States. However, it has an official policy on disclosure that predates the U.S.’s by more than a decade. In 1954, the Brazilian Air Force started The First Confidential Inquiry into Unidentified Aerial Objects in response to the first major flap in that country. In 1969, the Sistema de Investigação de Objetos Aéreos Não Identificados (SIOANI) was established, and nearly 100 detailed case files were accumulated up until its termination in 1972. After this, in 1977, in response to reports of injuries and deaths as a result of UFO encounters in the area of Pará (mainly in Colores) Operação Prato was authorized by Colonel Protásio Lopes de Oliveira. This resulted in more than 2000 photos, 16 hours of film, and a 179-page report. The First Confidential Inquiry, SIOANI and Operação Prato files were classified for decades, but thanks to a freedom of information campaign begun in April of 2004 by the Brazilian UFOlogist and publisher of UFO Revista, Ademar José Gavaerd, many of the files were shown to him and other UFOlogists in 2005 as a prelude to releasing them to the general public. Then, in 2010, Brazil issued Ordinance 551/GC3, requiring every branch of the military and aviation sectors to collect and transfer all UFO reports to the Aerospace Defence Command in Brasilia along with any material proof by way of photos or video on a yearly basis. There, it is to be catalogued and made available to the public. Along with this, since 2012, the Air Force has periodically released declassified files through the Brazilian National Archives, and recently released 893 reports in May of this year. In this blog, we’ll look at the history of the Air Force investigation, the efforts of Gevaerd and other UFOlogists to gain access to the case files, and some of the most interesting (at least to us) cases (translated files can be found here) found within them. Read more →
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Did Barack Obama slip — and then walk it back? In a recent interview with political commentator Brian Tyler Cohen, Obama was asked point-blank: Are aliens real? His response: “They’re real… but I haven’t seen them.” He followed with laughter, referencing conspiracy theories about extraterrestrials being hidden at Area 51, suggesting such a secret would be impossible to conceal — even from a president. Later, he clarified that he framed part of his answer humorously. But was that clarification damage control? Tonight, Martin and UFO Jack go deeper. We revisit Obama’s earlier appearance on Jimmy Kimmel Live!, where he was pressed on the same topic — and we review the exceptional breakdown by investigator Ben Hansen, who analyzed Obama’s phrasing, timing, increased respiration, and body language frame by frame. Are we witnessing: Political humor? Strategic ambiguity? Or a carefully managed narrative? Two interviews. Two different contexts. One unanswered question. We’ll compare tone, wording, micro-expressions, and consistency — and let you decide whether this was just a joke… or something more.
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Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump Based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War, and other relevant Departments and Agencies, to begin the process of identifying and releasing Government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), and unidentified flying objects (UFOs), and any and all other information connected to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important, matters. GOD BLESS AMERICA! LINK
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear The first feature-length UFO documentary was titled, appropriately, Unidentified Flying Objects with the subtitle, The True Story of Flying Saucers. It was produced by Clarence Greene and released in 1956. Researcher Robert Barrow devoted a blogspot.com site to it titled UFO: The True Story of Flying Saucers and posted from June 2008 until July 2025. In his June 12, 2008, post, “The Driving Force: Clarence Greene,” Barrow includes a statement “signed” by Greene, but he tells the reader that he found it on the web “uncredited.”According to Greene in his July 26, 1967, statement titled, “UFO: Why I Made Unidentified Flying Objects,” one night in August of 1952, a friend called his attention to something in the sky Greene describes as “a sphere of light.” They watched it for about five minutes as it moved, stopped, made turns, and then moved off over the horizon. He later learned that members of the Ground Observation Corps had also observed it. Read more →
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For fun, Martin has a direct conversation with Grok about UFOs, Elon Musk, and Starlink. We examine Musk’s claim that with thousands of Starlink satellites in orbit, none have ever had to dodge an alien craft — and whether that actually proves anything given the vastness of space.
The discussion moves into some of the most compelling UFO cases on record, including the 2004 Nimitz encounter, the Phoenix Lights, and the 1994 Ariel School incident in Zimbabwe. Another great Grok opinion: "Maybe those kids got a backstage pass to something bigger!"
We explore pilot testimony, mass sightings, centuries-old reports, and why certain cases continue to stand out decades later. The conversation also touches on government technology, drones, long-standing historical accounts, and whether humanity may simply be missing part of the bigger picture. A thoughtful, candid exchange blending AI analysis with research and opinions.
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**NOTE: This show contains AUTHENTIC LEAKED ORIGINAL AUDIO of the Frederick Valentich incident. It may be disturbing to some. Australian UFO researcher George Simpson joins Martin Willis to discuss decades of frontline investigation into some of Australia’s most compelling UFO cases. George began his work in the late 1980s with the Victorian UFO Research Society and later became Victorian Director of the Australian UFO Research Network, organizing public conferences and hosting international figures including Steve Bassett. With more than 30 years immersed in field investigations, committee leadership, and case analysis, George brings a rare long-term perspective to the subject. He is the author of Nothing on Radar; The Valentich Mystery, a deep investigation into the 1978 disappearance of young pilot Frederick Valentich over Bass Strait, one of Australia’s most debated aviation and UFO cases. George shares insights not only into historic cases, but into the culture of UFO research in Australia—how investigations were conducted before the internet era, how witnesses were handled, and how narratives evolve over time.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear | In the Volume 26, Number 6, March 1981 Flying Saucer Review, there is an article (page 7 of the pdf) by Russian UFO investigator Nikita A. Schnee headlined, “Contact Reported Near Pyrogovskoye Lake.” It tells the tale of an unnamed Red Army officer who said he was taken aboard a craft by “two men in dull-coloured cellophane like garments,” who told him they wanted to have a talk. In his introduction, Schnee explains that Soviet UFOlogists were of the belief that there were no Russian CE-3 cases. He cites Felix Y. Zigel, an assistant professor at the Moscow Institute of Aviation, who presented his opinion in the second issue of Observations of UFOs in the USSR that, in Schee’s words, “such reports are the fruits of sick minds, or obvious hoaxes with the aim of making money or obtaining publicity.” With that said, Schnee assures the reader that in his report, “all the events described actually (emphasis in the original) took place and are not products of the contactee’s imagination.” He says this “has been proved, quite convincingly” through examination of the witness and “the landing site of the UFO.” As the reader shall see, Russian UFOlogists had a unique style of landing site examination in those days. Read more →
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In 2019, U.S. Navy pilot Lt. Ryan Graves began speaking publicly about regular encounters by flight teams starting in 2013 with UFOs. On July 26, 2023, he testified before congress and said that on one occasion, two jets were forced to make evasive maneuvers to avoid a collision with an object he described as a clear sphere with a black cube inside. By the time of the hearing, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office headed by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick had looked into these types of reports, and in May of 2023, Kirkpatrick informed NASA’s UFO advisory council that AARO had about 800 instances of “metallic orb” UFOs. This is according to a January 24, 2024, Science Times article by Caleb White headlined “Cube in a Sphere UAP Could Be ‘Aliens’ or ‘Next Generation’ Spherical Drones, Pentagon Former UFO Chief Says.” Read more →
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear While June 24, 1947, marks the beginning of the modern-day UFO mystery, claims of earlier encounters and incidents, Maury Island for example, are found throughout the literature. One such case is that of Udo Wartena, a Dutch immigrant working as a miner for the Northwest Mining Syndicate in Broadwater County, Montana. Wartena claimed that in 1940, an alien invited him to go on board a huge flying saucer.The case came to light in the 1990s, and is based on the testimony of Wartena just before he died in 1989. Prior to this, he reportedly kept the story to himself, not even telling his wife. It was included in the 1993 book, Aliens and UFOs by James L. Thompson. Australian researcher Warren P. Aston looked into it after reading the book and presented his findings at the July 1997 Mutual UFO Network International Symposium in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
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U.S. Air Force Colonel (Ret.) Fred Claussen joins Podcast UFO for an in-depth conversation following the January 20 UAP press conference in Washington, DC. At that event, he was among the military and intelligence professionals who came forward publicly to address unresolved questions surrounding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, including observed capabilities, possible origins, and implications for national security and air safety. In the upcoming interview, Colonel Claussen expands on themes raised at the press conference and provides additional context drawn from his professional background and firsthand experience. He discusses a defining incident from his service, when he was scrambled to investigate an aerial disturbance over the North Sea. During the encounter, he describes observing a silent, golden, football-shaped object hovering with no visible means of propulsion, which then accelerates straight upward and vanishes. Claussen also addresses what followed the encounter, explaining that upon his return he was instructed by superiors to forget the incident, and that any images or recordings were confiscated. He speaks about remaining silent for decades, choosing to come forward publicly only as UAPs begin receiving serious attention from Congress and official government channels. The conversation avoids speculation and sensationalism, focusing instead on facts, process, and accountability. It offers listeners a clearer understanding of how UAP issues are being addressed at senior levels of government—and where the public narrative often diverges from operational reality.
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In 2015, while handling an inspection claim for damaged furniture in Buffalo, New York, I met with a client at his home. He was around eighty years old and wore a cast on one arm. As we walked through his condo inspecting the damaged pieces, he explained that he was battling bone cancer in his arm and that his wife of many years had recently passed away.At one point, he brought me into a room lined with photographs of various aircraft. He told me he was a retired Air Force officer who had flown many combat missions in Korea and Vietnam. This, he explained, was his room of memories. He spoke easily about his time in the military, and it was clear he was enjoying the conversation. When we finished the inspection, I asked if we might sit for a while and visit before I headed out. He smiled and said, “That sounds nice.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear | For many people growing up in the 1970s (of which this writer is one), seeing a UFO documentary was their first in-depth look into the subject. These films often came along with books tied in, and major publishers such as Bantam were getting onboard. More and more people were willing to accept the idea that UFOs were worthy of serious consideration, and this meant that more and more people were willing to spend money on movies and books covering the subject. What had formerly been mostly confined to a subculture of enthusiasts, was on its way to becoming the profitable entertainment industry it is today. What may may come as a surprise to some readers is that between the 1947 summer of the saucers and 1968, there were only two documentaries (if any readers know differently feel free to comment) made in the midst of all the science fiction saucer films that became popular starting in the 1950s.What is thought to be the first flying saucer/UFO documentary was released in 1950 as an approximately 9 ½ minute short titled The Flying Saucer Mystery. It was re-released in 1952 with added footage that brought it up to around 12 minutes. Both releases were produced by Telenews, which had a chain of 13 theatres in major cities throughout the U.S. that only showed newsreels. According to the December 20, 2019, post on The Science Fiction Encyclopedia website, the film (which release isn’t specified) was lost until the 1990s. The producer, director, and screenwriter are unnamed. Read more →
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In this episode of Podcast UFO, we are joined by Dr. Robert McGwier, widely known as “Science Bob,” for a deep, technical discussion on UAP and USO detection through automated sensor data gathering. Dr. McGwier brings decades of experience in applied mathematics, signal processing, and national-security–level data analysis. This conversation moves beyond speculation and focuses squarely on how real-world sensor systems—such as radar, sonar, electro-optical/infrared platforms, acoustic sensors, and passive detection arrays—are used to identify, correlate, and evaluate anomalous objects operating in air and undersea environments. We explore how modern sensor fusion works, what automated detection pipelines can (and cannot) reliably tell us, how false positives arise, and what standards must be applied before data can be considered credible. The discussion also addresses the challenges of classification, data access, and the limitations inherent in current monitoring systems. This episode is essential viewing for anyone interested in a serious, data-driven approach to UAP and USO research—where engineering, physics, and analytics take precedence over anecdote.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Throughout 1954 in France, there was a wave of humanoid reports that received national and international press coverage. That same year, Italy experienced a wave of its own that didn’t get nearly as much attention, although one particular case has since become a classic. A detailed account (page 12 of the pdf) of the case and a follow-up investigation 18 years later is presented in the Vol. 18, No. 5, Flying Saucer Review. Jacques Vallée included a brief account in his catalogue titled Une Siècle d’Atterisages” (a Century of Landings) published as a series in Lumières dans la Nuit starting with the April 1969 issue and ending with the February 1970 issue. However, according to editor Gordon Creighton, “so far as I am aware, no full description of it has ever appeared in English.”The account, by Sergio Conti, appears on page 11 (page 14 of the pdf) under the headline, “The Cennina Landing of 1954.” It was translated by Creighton from Il Giornale dei Misteri No.17, published in August of 1972.
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Join attendees of the historic Washington, DC press conference organized by filmmaker James Fox, focused on the 1996 Varginha, Brazil UFO incident. In this roundtable discussion, Martin Willis is joined by fellow attendees Sarah Gamm & Anthony Miller, of Fire in the Cosmos to reflect on what it was like to be present at this landmark event held at the National Press Club. The group shares firsthand impressions of the atmosphere inside the room, the significance of the testimony presented, and the experience of meeting and speaking directly with Brazilian witnesses connected to the Varginha case. From emotional moments to broader implications for UFO/UAP disclosure, this conversation offers a rare, ground-level perspective on a press conference that many are calling a turning point in the public discussion of non-human intelligence. This episode provides listeners and viewers with insights you won’t get from headlines alone, what it felt like to be there, how the testimony was received in person, and why this event continues to resonate with those who attended.
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Longtime UFO investigator Allan Lavigne joins Martin Willis for a deep-dive into the “boots-on-the-ground” era of UFO research—when cases were tracked by phone calls, paper files, and relentless field work. Allan recounts his time with APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization), the pioneering civilian group founded by Jim and Coral Lorenzen, and explains how APRO’s investigations accelerated after Project Blue Book ended. Along the way, he shares what it was like working some of the most talked-about cases of the 1970s and beyond—abductions, crash-retrieval lore, and major sightings that still divide researchers today. Allan also provides a rare first-person account of being the first investigator to interview Travis Walton, why he considers the case legitimate, and what details from that original interview still matter. From there, the conversation shifts into controversial territory: the Billy Meier saga (and how APRO evaluated evidence in the pre-digital age), the Phoenix Lights, the “alien autopsy” film from the perspective of a professional effects artist and law-enforcement veteran, and what he considers credible versus clearly fabricated.
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We apologize in advance for any audio issues during the livestream, as this is a live press event with multiple speakers. Please note that some witnesses are speaking in Portuguese, with English translation provided. (two sessions)
Martin attended and livestreamed a historic press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, on January 20, 2026. For the first time publicly, Brazilian neurosurgeon Dr. Italo Venturelli described his 1996 hospital encounter with a living, non-human intelligent being connected to the Varginha incident. Organized by investigative journalist and filmmaker James Fox, the event featured Brazilian witnesses, medical and forensic testimony, and new evidence related to the reported crash, military involvement, and subsequent investigations, coinciding with the release of Moment of Contact: New Revelations of Alien Encounters.
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Journalist Leslie Kean joins Martin Willis at the National Press Club following the UAP/UFO press conference to share her candid reaction to the historic event. Kean reflects on the emotional testimony of witnesses, the extraordinary effort behind organizing the press conference, and why the case presented is one of the most important she has encountered. She emphasizes the credibility of the witnesses, the significance of international cooperation, and the urgent need for access to hard data such as photographs, videos, flight logs, and medical records that remain sequestered by authorities. In this conversation, Kean also discusses the alleged involvement of U.S. authorities following the incident, questions surrounding missing documentation, and why key evidence may now reside in the United States. She speaks movingly about the humanity of the witnesses—particularly the medical professionals involved—and the emotional weight of the testimony presented. The interview concludes with reflection on the lasting impact of the 2017 New York Times UAP reporting, marking a clear “before and after” moment in public awareness. A thoughtful, grounded discussion on transparency, accountability, and the future of serious UAP investigation.
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Martin reconnects with journalist and producer Chrissy Newton for a concise, wide-ranging discussion that traces her path into UAP reporting—from early PR work and influential documentaries to the personal experiences that sustain long-term interest in the subject. Chrissy recounts her father’s Ontario UFO sighting and how firsthand encounters often become the spark that turns curiosity into a lifelong pursuit, even as friends and family react very differently to the topic. The conversation then shifts to bigger themes shaping today’s UAP landscape: overlapping rabbit holes in national security, politics, science, and media; the ebb and flow of public attention; and why younger voices entering the field matter. Chrissy explains how her work at The Debrief has expanded her focus into emerging technologies—especially AI and brain-computer interfaces—highlighting both their real medical promise and the ethical risks as technology accelerates faster than society can adapt. They close by exploring how future tools like BCIs might influence UAP research, from new forms of data collection to controversial questions about perception, consciousness, and communication. Along the way, they touch on major Canadian cases, USOs, and the persistent mysteries that keep researchers engaged. Martin wraps by previewing upcoming guests on Podcast UFO and thanking Chrissy for a thoughtful, grounded conversation about where the field may be headed next.
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Martin Willis welcomes back Erling Strand, founder of Project Hessdalen, for an in-depth discussion on one of the world’s most enduring and scientifically studied unexplained phenomena—the Hessdalen Lights of Norway. In this wide-ranging conversation, Strand reflects on his first encounters in the early 1980s and how an initial curiosity evolved into a decades-long, instrument-based research program. He explains the four primary categories of observations reported in the Hessdalen Valley, ranging from brief flashing lights to long-duration luminous objects, radar-tracked targets traveling at extreme speeds, and rare daylight sightings of structured craft-like forms. The discussion explores hard data collected over the years, including radar returns consistent with solid objects, electromagnetic and magnetic measurements, unexplained ground conductivity, ultraviolet indicators, and baffling physical effects such as tracks in snow with no heat signature. Strand also addresses competing hypotheses—plasma, geophysical mechanisms, multiple coexisting phenomena, and even portal-like interpretations—while emphasizing the scientific challenges posed by the diversity of observations. Finally, Strand shares what continues to motivate his research, why Hessdalen remains a unique natural laboratory, and how understanding the underlying energy involved could have profound implications for science and humanity. SHOW NOTES
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In last week’s blog, we looked at a case from Spain that involved three airmen who were stationed at a Spanish Air Force base near Talavera La Real. It was investigated by Juan José Benítez who wrote a report (page 4 of the pdf) and sent it to Flying Saucer Review. The report was translated into English by Gordon Creighton, and it was published in the Vol. 23, No. 5, February 1978 issue.According to Benítez, the three airmen, José María Trejo, Juan Carrizosa Luján, and José Hildago were on guard duty after midnight on November 12, 1976. Trejo and Carrizosa were in their sentry boxes, and Hildago was on patrol with a German Shepherd. At around 1:45 a.m., Trejo and Carrizosa heard what sounded like radio interference, which then turned into a piercing, high-pitched whistle that hurt their ears. The whistle started and stopped repeatedly, and the two men, armed with Z-26 quick-firing rifles, searched the area where it seemed to be coming from.They then saw a light that looked like a flare high up in the sky that lit up a wide area. Hildago came by with the dog and he had also seen the light. They were joined by a corporal and two support guards, and they went to do a search.After hearing branches breaking in a stand of eucalyptus trees and sending the dog in repeatedly, they saw a luminous green figure that was about three meters tall with what looked like a helmet on its head, long arms, thick body, and it didn’t seem to have any legs or feet. The men described it as being like a bobbin or a spindle. Read more →
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In the Vol. 23, No. 5, February 1978 Flying Saucer Review, there is a report (page 4 of the pdf) out of Spain headlined, “Encounter at Talavera.” It was written by Juan José Benítez and translated by Gordon Creighton. Benítez got the story from the main witnesses who were three airmen stationed at a Spanish Air Force base near Talavera la Real, close to the Spanish-Portuguese border. He describes the case as “simply staggering.”Benítez explains that the incident occurred on November 12, 1976, and that he got the story firsthand from the witnesses, but kept the details to himself because the three men involved had still been in the service “until a short time ago.”According to Benítez, at around 1:45 a.m., José María Trejo and Juan Carrizosa Luján were in their sentry boxes on guard duty near the fuel depot of the Talavera Air Force Base and Jet Aircraft School a few kilometers from the city of Badajoz. Their boxes were 60 meters apart and they both heard what sounded like radio interference, which then turned into a piercing, high-pitched whistle that hurt their ears. After a few minutes, it stopped, and then started up again five minutes later, this time near Trejo’s box. Trejo called for Carrizosa to come over and both men searched the area armed with Z-26 quick-firing rifles. Read more →
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In this in-depth conversation, Martin Willis is joined by Anna Brady-Estevez, a senior technology investor and former government innovation leader, for a wide-ranging discussion on UAP, scientific rigor, and the future of advanced research. Anna shares her personal journey into the UAP topic—from early curiosity and cultural stigma to firsthand sightings and high-level exposure through government, science, and finance. Drawing on her experience funding hundreds of advanced technology companies across energy, space, and national security, she explains how UAP-related questions increasingly overlap with real, cutting-edge research already underway.Topics explored include:* Why UAP remained stigmatized for decades—and what has changed * Firsthand sightings involving orbs, structured craft, and anomalous behavior * How scientists evaluate unexplained phenomena without abandoning rigor * The role of government, funding, and private industry in UAP research * Congressional hearings, whistleblowers, and public disclosure * Advanced propulsion, materials science, sensing technologies, and energy * Reports of non-human biologics and why the terminology matters * National security concerns versus scientific openness * What meaningful UAP research funding would actually support * Why innovation often begins with anomalies others ignore
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Filmmaker and investigator James Fox returns for an in-depth discussion of his latest release, Moment of Contact: New Revelations of Alien Encounters. The conversation revisits the 1996 Varginha, Brazil incident—often called “Brazil’s Roswell”—and examines new testimony that has emerged since the film’s premiere. Fox shares updates from recent travels to Brazil, including additional witness accounts, hospital testimony, and details involving alleged creature encounters and military involvement. The discussion also broadens to government secrecy, whistleblowers, crash-retrieval programs, and why the Varginha case remains one of the most complex and controversial UFO investigations on record.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear ~ This past week, I found myself in the position of having two co-workers who are UFO witnesses and decided to take advantage of this and have them tell their stories for this blog.The first story is that of Ilya Vett, 54, who has been with the organization for over three years, and he first told it to me not long after I met him. He grew up in the area of New Paltz, New York, which is near Pine Bush and the Hudson Valley. Both of those areas are notorious for UFO flaps in the 1980s (Ilya and I went to the 2022 Pine Bush UFO Fair where I met up with Martin), which is when Ilya said he had his sighting. Ilya also told me that his wife, prior to their marriage, had a sighting of a UFO with her family while they were driving. According to him, when they got home, it was over their house.As for Ilya’s story, he recorded it for me on his own time not prompted by any questions from me. According to him, he and some friends were riding their bikes on Prospect Street in New Paltz sometime in the fall (school had started) “in the early 80s.” It was dark, and they were heading north towards Henry W. Dubois Drive. The area was undeveloped at the time, and there were “a lot of trees” on both sides of the road. They heard what Ilya indicated through vocalizations was a combination of a whoosh and a hum, though he settled on it not being “distinct.” Read more →
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Martin Willis with UFO-Jack co-hosting react to the newly released Steven Spielberg Disclosure Day teaser, which Martin says “gave me the willies” and immediately compelled a discussion. They cue up the teaser and then break down its most striking lines—“If you found out we weren’t alone…,” “People have a right to know the truth,” “You wouldn’t believe me if I told you… so I’m gonna show you,” and the nun’s reflection on why a vast universe would exist “yet save it only for us.” Martin and Jack highlight how the teaser leans into suspense and emotion, avoids showing aliens or craft, and uses the loaded concept of “full disclosure… to the whole world… all at once” to tap directly into long-running UFO community themes. They also point out imagery suggesting mass attention, faith and religious reactions, hints of telepathy/psionics and unconventional communication, and a conspicuous absence of government officials—while agreeing the teaser’s huge view count signals mainstream interest and could help “normies” engage with the topic, even if it doesn’t produce real-world disclosure. Teaser/Trailer HERE!
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In last week’s blog, we looked at the beginning of the modern crop circle phenomenon that first got the attention of the media and UFO researchers in 198o. This was described in the 1986 report compiled by Paul Fuller and Jenny Randles (written by Randles) for the British UFO Research Association titled Mystery of the Circles. According to Randles, the idea that UFOs had something to do with the mystery came from the fact that the first circles appeared in the West Country in the area of Warminster, which had become famous in the 60’s as a UFO hotspot. When we left off, that idea was falling out of favor with researchers, particularly Ian Mrzyglod of the newly formed organization, PROBE, who is quoted from the March 1982, Vol. 2, No. 4, PROBE Report: “…even to suggest that the flattened circles were UFO landing nests is wildly speculative wishful thinking, without any foundation.” After a lull in attention in 1982, things picked up after eight sets of five circles appeared that were made up of one large circle surrounded by four smaller circles at equidistant locations. Prior to this, there had been only single circles or two or three in a row.Playing a large part in the media attention was the fact that the circles appeared in the summer, often called the silly season due to the fact that stories of a less-than-serious nature are used as filler in the midst of what is traditionally a slow news period. And, it did get silly. One example presented by Randles is Daily Express columnist Jean Rook being sent to one of the sites “to come up with a lovely, poetic ode to ‘E.T.,’” the titular alien from the movie. According to Randles, Rook “found physical evidence of his presence in the midst of one of the rings – a poppy.”Randles emphasizes that “serious UFO investigators refused to get involved” and notes that she, herself, refused to appear on BBC and ITV television, even though she had a new book to promote, The Pennine UFO Mystery. Read more →
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Within UFOlogy, there are several areas of specialization, such as abductions, landing traces, humanoids, contactees, military encounters, etc. They often have their own specialized literature put out by individual researchers or organizations, and many have come and gone in terms of popular fascination and press coverage. One aspect that has fallen by the wayside is crop circle research, also known as “cereology.” Its early history, and the reasons for it falling out of favor with the press, and even among UFOlogists, is summed up neatly in the 1986 report, Mystery of the Circles, “compiled by” by Paul Fuller and Jenny Randles (Randles is the writer) for the British UFO Association. Of course, their report didn’t put an immediate end to the phenomenon or the activity of researcher/investigators who were focused on it, but it did presage the eventual waning of interest to where very few in the community continue to consider it seriously as having anything to do with UFOs.According to Randles, mystery circles in the British West Country first started getting media attention in August of 1980, but “persistent local rumors” of them appearing in oat, barley, and wheat fields throughout Wiltshire and Hampshire goes back to at least 40 years before that. As of the release of the report, mysterious circles had shown up in fields between May and August for six successive years. Randles points out that the reason BUFORA became involved was because of the appearance of circles in the area of Warminster, which was notorious for a UFO flap in the 1960’s involving an object known as “The Warminster Thing.” She explains that this “created a definite hype which sees these marks regarded as ground traces left by a landing, or hovering, spacecraft.” Read more →
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In this in-depth episode of Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis is joined by Len Filppu, a lifelong experiencer whose 1967 Brockport, New York UFO sighting became a pivotal moment that reshaped his understanding of reality, consciousness, and the unexplained. Len recounts witnessing a low-flying, fiery orange object, accompanied by a smaller white orb, moving silently across the sky—an event corroborated by multiple police officers and dozens of civilian witnesses across western New York. The sighting later inspired the animated short documentary Psychedelic in the Sky, which explores not only the event itself, but the deeper psychological and spiritual impact it had on those involved. Beyond the UFO encounter, Len discusses a series of profound anomalous experiences, including a verified poltergeist incident, altered states of consciousness, and how stigma and ridicule once silenced witnesses for decades. Together, Martin and Len examine how public perception of UFOs has evolved—from mockery in the 1960s to serious scientific and academic inquiry today.
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In this special round-robin episode, Podcast UFO host Martin Willis is joined by an exceptional panel to review one of the most consequential years in modern UFO/UAP history. Filmmaker Dean Alioto, Surprise guest, Matt Ford of The Good Trouble Show, UFO Jack, and Allie & Justin, hosts of UAP Society’s UAP News Show, come together to discuss the major strides, controversies, and revelations that shaped the UAP conversation throughout 202 controversies, and revelations that shaped the UAP conversation throughout 2025. Topics covered include: Congressional hearings, whistleblowers, and renewed legislative efforts surrounding UAP disclosure Scientific re-evaluation of historical and modern UAP data Increased civilian and military reporting, including USOs The growing role of academia and independent research groups Media, documentaries, and the shifting public perception of UFOs Where the UAP conversation stands heading into 2026 This wide-ranging discussion brings multiple perspectives together—media, research, filmmaking, and analysis—to assess how far the subject has progressed and what unanswered questions remain. Whether you follow UFOs from a scientific, political, or cultural standpoint, this episode provides a comprehensive look at why 2025 may be remembered as a turning point in UAP history.
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Retired law enforcement officers Dave Rich and Marianne Robb join host Martin Willis for a wide-ranging conversation on why first responders can be uniquely strong UAP/UFO witnesses—and why the professional fallout after reporting can be just as traumatic as the encounter itself. They break down how academy/scenario-based training shapes observation under stress, then pivot into major police-involved cases including the multi-agency “Lumberton” triangle flap (four nights of sightings across multiple counties), RCMP officer Jim Blackwood (flashlight interaction), Lonnie Zamora (Socorro), and Val Johnson (1979)—including the physical damage to his patrol car and the long-term consequences for witnesses who speak publicly. The discussion also highlights the mission of UAPD (UAP-PD): providing a confidential, “safe zone” for active and retired first responders to share UAP/paranormal/cryptid experiences without fear of ridicule or career impact. Dave recounts the 2017 incident that led to UAPD’s formation—an unexplained 911 call from an empty school, follow-up investigation steps (video, phone/line checks, audio analysis), and the pressure he faced afterward to stay silent. If you’re a first responder with an experience you’ve kept to yourself, you are not alone—and support exists.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear ~ In the course of researching UFO cases in Spanish speaking countries, one is bound to run into Scott Corrales and Inexplicata: The Journal of Hispanic UFOlogy. It exists today as a website, but in the fall of 1998, Corrales put out the first print version. In issue number 3, put out in the spring of 1999, Corrales celebrates the public reception of the first two issues and notes that there were 1800 visitors to the inexplicata.com website. In that issue is an article by Javier Garcia Blanco headlined “Roadside Encounters: UFOs, Aliens and Missing Time,” that Corrales promises, “does for driving what Spielberg’s Jaws did for swimming: you won’t want to get behind the wheel!” Blanco is credited with being the editor (along with Angel Briongos Martinez) of the Spain-based magazine Declasificado and the director of LACIP.The first case Blanco goes into is that of “veteran radio personality” Pedro Mateo and his wife, Gloria Jiménez. According to him, Mateo described what he said happened to him and his wife on June 26, 1977, after explaining, “I have it etched upon my mind because we were flying to Dusseldorf that day, and most of what happens to me I write in a notebook.” He said that after leaving Zaragoza at around 5:00 a.m., they were just past the town of Los Garrigues after sunrise when they saw a disk-shaped object off in the distance. He wasn’t “overly concerned” at that point, but got scared when it proceeded to move quickly and silently towards them. Read more →
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Interview with Chris & Sean O'Leary in a first-of-its-kind account of a family that reports nearly 70 years of repeated alien encounters. Their experiences began in 1959 when their mother was allegedly taken in broad daylight by a silent triangular craft. What followed were decades of abductions involving underground installations, medical procedures, Mantis beings, and the revelation of a hybrid child created through non-human intervention. As a child, one sibling was reportedly taken alongside the mother and later alone, guided through craft interiors and operating rooms. In the 1970s, a daytime landing in the family’s backyard allegedly resulted in the entire family being taken to an underground facility with hundreds of other abductees present. One brother later became a police officer and describes a unique relationship with the Greys, including telekinetic training and an agreement allowing voluntary cooperation without paralysis—an agreement he says was honored until 2023. He is also believed to be the first police officer to ever confront a Grey at point-blank range with his service weapon. Everything changed on August 19, 1996, when a saucer reportedly materialized above the home in broad daylight during the return of the police officer from an abduction. Multiple witnesses observed the event, and due to the timing, memory suppression allegedly failed—resulting in sudden shared recall across multiple family members without hypnosis.
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In this special episode of Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis interviews Ed Wilson, author of The Simpkinson NASA Archive: UFOs & Hidden Under Our Nose, for an in-depth discussion of one of the most intriguing and overlooked UFO cases tied to the space program. Ed Wilson is an historian and collector of rare books and documents, as well as the primary investigator of the Simpkinson (Gemini) UFO incident. During this interview, he presents newly uncovered material, including rare D-15 footage acquired from the National Archives*, and explains how decades-old NASA imagery remained hidden in plain sight. This compelling conversation examines the origin, investigation, and far-reaching implications of what may be one of NASA’s most controversial and mysterious archival discoveries.
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In this episode, Martin Willis sits down with Jesse Merl — multi-exit tech entrepreneur, media personality, and creator of the popular YouTube channel Jesse ON FIRE. Known for tackling big cultural issues with sharp insight and zero sugar-coating, Jesse brings a unique, media-savvy perspective to the UFO/UAP conversation. Together, Martin and Jesse explore how digital platforms, influence dynamics, and the modern information ecosystem shape the way UFOs are seen, shared, and understood. This conversation goes far beyond sightings: it dives into the cultural forces and hidden power structures behind disclosure, the role of viral media, and how government narratives collide with public perception.
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In this deep-dive conversation, Swedish UFO researcher and AFU archivist Clas Svahn joins Martin Willis to explore newly declassified documents from Sweden’s security police and military— including a major 1970s operation to intercept unknown craft crossing into Norway. Clas also discusses a rare 1971 humanoid encounter, Sweden’s most compelling historic UFO cases, and new scientific insights into strange lights (will-o’-the-wisps). We take a broader look at mysterious sightings across Russia, China, and Europe, and get updates on AFU’s latest collections and its growing global role in preserving UFO history. A must-watch for anyone fascinated by Scandinavian UFO research, credible witnesses, and revelations emerging from long-sealed archives. APOLOGIES FOR THE LATE RELEASE.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear In the August 1975, APRO Bulletin, the front-page story, headlined “UFOs ‘Escort’ Mexican Aircraft” has details of a pilot’s reported UFO encounter. Backing him up is confirmation from the air traffic controller who was in contact at the time. What’s not included are details of the aftermath, which include reports by the witness of encounters with Men in Black. This part of the story can be found in the 1990 book, The UFO Silencers by Timothy Green Beckley, and in the 1997 British UFO Research publication (page 21 of the pdf) by Robert Bull, Men in Black: A Preliminary Report.According to the Bulletin, at 10:30 a.m. on May 3, 1974, 23-year-old Carlos Antonio de los Santos Montiel, took off from Zihuatenajo, state of Guerrero, in his Piper Aztec 24 with the registration, XB-XAU. He was headed for Mexico City on a cloudy day with poor visibility and had to climb to 14,500 feet to get above it.When he was over Tequesquitengo, he dropped down to try and get a look at Lake Tequesquitengo so he could verify his position. When he got below the clouds, fog and mist near the ground blocked his view of the lake, but his attention was quickly drawn to another matter altogether. To his right, he saw a 3-meter-diameter saucer with a cupula on top that had what looked like a small window and an antenna. He looked to his left and saw an identical object. Both were 20 centimeters above the wings and about 1 ½ meters from the cabin.
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🦃🧺🌽🍇🥧🍂 HAPPY THANKSGIVING! 🦃🧺🌽🍇🥧🍂 In this exclusive interview, Martin Willis speaks with Professor Matthew Szydagis, Ph.D., a physicist at the University at Albany whose groundbreaking work in dark matter detection has now expanded into one of the most promising academic UAP research initiatives in the country. Following a major new endowment to UAlbany, Prof. Szydagis and his colleagues have launched a serious scientific investigation into UAP hotspots, using advanced detector technologies, atmospheric monitoring, and the same rigorous methods applied in particle astrophysics. The discussion covers the new funding and what it enables, why the team is focusing on hotspot regions, the technologies they plan to deploy—including concepts adapted from dark matter research—how academia can help answer the UAP question, Prof. Szydagis’s personal drive to understand these phenomena, the challenges and opportunities ahead for scientific UAP study, and his collaborations with Prof. Cecilia Levy and Prof. Kevin Knuth. Whether you’re interested in astrophysics, UAP science, or the future of academic research, this conversation offers a rare inside look at a university-backed effort to bring hard data and real science to the UAP mystery.
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In the January 12, 1982, New South Wales, Australia Pix-People, there is an article (page 11 of the pdf) by “Australia’s leading authority on UFOs and psychic phenomena,” John Pinkney, headlined “UFO terror grips a NSW township.” Pinkney’s weekly column for the publication is “The Pinkney Report–Investigating the Incredible.” It seems there was a flap in the town of Nowra, and one case in particular is reported to have been investigated by the Scientific Bureau of Investigation. SBI had its own publication at the time, and a report on the case was published in the Vol. 3, No. 6 SBI Report. SBI was based in Staten Island, NY, and one member readers might recognize was Peter Robbins, who is listed as art director for the magazine.According to Pinkney, “dozens of people” were “caught up in bizarre events” in Nowra, which is 150 km south of Sydney: railway men reported they saw lights hovering over abandoned mineshafts; a foal was found with its leg cut off “neatly from its shoulder; a “huge, brightly lit object” paced a bus with 40 passengers “for seven minutes, before vanishing up a shaft of light in the clouds;” a newspaper man saw a mass of what looked like meteorites fly up from the ground into the air in 1978; a 12-meter-diameter ring was found burned into a field after a farmer told police that “a weird thing had crashed on his property, starting a bushfire;” and two hunters shot at a two-meter-tall, human-like entity that vanished and left an overpowering odor that made one of the hunters sick for several hours. Pinkney’s main focus, however, is on a case involving not only some unusual trace evidence, but physical effects on the witness as well.According to Pinkney, Frank Burke, a pastrycook, was driving through the Kangaroo Valley heading home from work at around 10:30 p.m. when a “blazing light” engulfed the car. Burke said it lit up the area in a radius of around 25 feet and “was so intense I could have read the fine print of a newspaper or counted the ants at the roadside.” He was listening to music coming from a cassette player/recorder sitting on the seat next to him, and it stopped playing as soon as the light came down. Read more →
Join Martin and UFO Jack as they dive into a detailed, no-nonsense review of the newly released documentary The Age of Disclosure — a film already being called one of the most iconic and provocative UAP productions to date. In this episode, we break down the movie’s claims, message, threat narrative, historical framing, and its impact on the disclosure conversation happening right now. Whether you're a seasoned UFO researcher or just curious about what all the buzz is about, this review highlights what the film gets right, where it stretches, and why it matters. Grab a seat — we’re going deep on evidence, narrative framing, and the broader implications for UAP transparency.
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Join Martin Willis as he sits down with researcher, author, and trained remote viewer Ryan Kralik to explore the ideas behind his forthcoming book, It From Us – An Information-First Framework and the Purpose of Consciousness. Kralik proposes a groundbreaking model in which matter, life, consciousness—and even UFO phenomena—are emergent expressions of information seeking stability, structure, and meaning. Drawing from years of analytical work in communication and technology, combined with his background in psi research and anomaly investigation, he examines how reality may encode experience itself. We discuss how this framework may help explain UFO/UAP encounters, remote viewing, synchronicities, and the deeper architecture of consciousness. If you’re interested in cutting-edge theories at the intersection of UFOs, mind, and physics, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
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After a major blackout cut short our previous interview, Martin Willis interviews Bill Chalker — one of Australia’s most respected UFO researchers — returns for a deep dive into historic Australian UFO encounters that shaped the country’s extraordinary UFO legacy. From the mysterious 1868 Parramatta contact case and the 1927 Fernvale “Mothman-style” phenomenon, to the postwar wave of landings and close encounters, Bill brings decades of meticulous research, field investigations, and scientific inquiry to light. With his background in chemistry and forensic analysis, Bill discusses how historical cases still hold valuable clues to the modern UAP mystery, and how Australia’s UFO story connects to the global enigma.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles LearIn last week’s blog, we looked at a case from British Columbia that involved two witnesses who said they not only saw a UFO on the night of October 3, 1981, described as an upside-down flying saucer with its dome underneath surrounded by four lights that were in the 3,6,9, and 12 o’clock positions, but also had encounters with MiB types afterwards. The main witness, a 16-year-old who ran his own security company, Grant Breiland, reportedly took a photo that was not developed at the time of the article. The other witness, identified only as “N.B.” was a 19-year-old male who said he saw the same object. Breiland was interviewed extensively by former University of Victoria linguistics professor, Dr. P.M.H. Edwards. Edwards wrote a report that was published in the Vol. 27, No. 4, January 1982 Flying Saucer Review.When we left off, Breiland had just been confronted in the glass-doored vestibule of a shopping mall by two men dressed in extremely dark blue clothing. They were stiff and robotic, had tanned faces and lips the same color, no eyebrows, and “Eton crop” haircuts. He was scared by not only their non-human appearance, but also by the fact that there were suddenly no people to be seen anywhere, which was the case during the entire encounter. According to Edwards, they asked him what his name was, where he lived, what his phone number was, and he refused to answer. After staring at him for five seconds, they turned on their heels “as one man,” walked outside (it was raining), crossed the sidewalk to the road, went left, and walked in sync in a military fashion. Breiland followed them and watched as they walked onto a muddy, excavated field and then vanished before his eyes. He ran to the spot where they disappeared and saw they had left no footprints. Read more →
by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles LearMen in Black stories are almost as old as the modern UFO mystery, starting with the 1947 Maury Island Incident. This aspect of the phenomenon became firmly cemented with Gray Barker’s 1956 book, They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers, and it plays a big part in John Keel’s 1975 book, The Mothman Prophecies. Keel was of the mind that MiBs were not human beings from secret government organizations out to silence witnesses, but creatures of a much stranger origin. Supporting this is a 1981 report (page 8 of the pdf) out of Canada that is presented in the Vol. 27, No. 4, January 1982 Flying Saucer Review. Read more →
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What if artificial intelligence isn’t just human innovation — but part of a far older, non-human agenda? In this fascinating episode, Martin Willis speaks with Danielle Silverman, close associate of the late Nigel Kerner, to explore his provocative ideas from Grey Aliens and Artificial Intelligence: The Battle Between Natural and Synthetic Beings for the Human Soul. Nigel Kerner argued that the so-called Greys — the classic UFO entities reported in abductions — are synthetic bio-machines created by an ancient intelligence. Their mission? To study and ultimately harvest the human soul — the one thing they cannot reproduce. Danielle helps unpack Nigel’s research into how this alien technology might be guiding humanity toward merging with machines, steering us toward a future that benefits them rather than us.
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Paranormal investigator and musician Eric Mintel joins host Martin Willis for an in-depth conversation about his journey into the unknown. From his earliest encounters with the unexplained to his most chilling investigations, Eric opens up about what keeps him searching for answers in the dark. In this interview, we explore: When Eric first became fascinated by the paranormal and cryptozoology, His very first case — and how it set the tone for decades of investigation, The one case that made him wish he’d never gone, What he enjoys most about field investigations, The team members who join him in the hunt, Which cryptid he most hopes to see proven real 🛸 Why UFOs, ghosts, and cryptids all seem connected. He also discusses his own UFO encounters, check out the show notes for his website and video clips!
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Brazilian UFO cases have aspects to them that, while not unheard of in other countries, come up over and over again giving them a commonality that is unique to Brazil. Lost time, traveling long distances in trucks and cars in far less time and using far less fuel than it should take, humanoid encounters, and injuries are a few of these. A case from 1980 has all of these aspects except injury, and it is described in the cover story of the March 1982 APRO Bulletin.According to the article headlined “1980 Brazilian Abduction,” the case came to light “during the question and answer period following a UFO lecture by APRO’s Brazilian Representative, Mrs. Irene Granchi.” Granchi later interviewed the people involved, Elias Seixas de Matos, 38; Guaraci Fernandes de Sousa, 47; and Alberto Seixas Vierra, 26. Granchi later wrote about the case in an article (link to original article broken at this time) published in the April 1995 issue of UFO Magazine. There, she says she was lecturing about the work of Rio de Janeiro-based “hypnologist,” Dr. Silvio Lago. According to her, the three men were introduced to her, and it was explained that they wanted to meet Lago as they all seemed to have experienced partial amnesia and couldn’t recall long stretches of time during a delivery run in a truck. Read more →
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
Coming across contemporary UFO cases of interest these days when government-related UFO stories dominate the news is difficult. Fortunately, there are still some active civilian investigators out there who share their information (without a subscription) on their websites. Stan Gordon is one of those, and he helped bring attention to a case investigated by fellow researcher Jim Brown.Stan Gordon maintains a website, Stan Gordon’s UFO Anomalies Zone. According to his bio on the site, he was a trained electronics technician who specialized in radio and “worked in the advanced consumer electronics sales field for over forty years.” He has lived his whole life in Greensburg, Pennsylvania, became interested in UFOs and strangeness in 1959 at the age of ten, was the investigations coordinator for telephone reports coming into the UFO Research Institute of Pittsburgh in the late 1960s, and became an active field investigator in 1965. That year he was the primary investigator for the “December 9, 1965, UFO crash-recovery incident that occurred near Kecksburg, Pennsylvania.” Gordon established a hotline in 1969 so he could receive UFO reports and formed his own organization, the Westmoreland County UFO Study Group, in 1970. Read more →
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Martin Willis welcomes special guest Samuel Chong, Esq., a California-based public speaker, researcher, and translator of the internationally bestselling book Thiaoouba Prophecy — a work that bridges UFO phenomena, ancient wisdom, and extraterrestrial technology. In this fascinating conversation, Samuel shares specific, verifiable insights connecting ancient civilizations, religious history, and modern UFO/UAP reports. Drawing from his studies and discussions with figures like Steve Bassett, Jeffrey Mishlove, and George Noory, Samuel presents a worldview where advanced extraterrestrials — described as benevolent, Nordic-looking beings — have guided and warned humanity since antiquity.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In last week’s blog, we looked at a case involving a 1979 report by a forestry worker in Scotland who said he not only saw a mysterious domed object sitting on the ground, but that he was assaulted by two spherical objects with spike-like protrusions that rolled towards him rapidly, rolled over onto his sides, and seemed to be pulling on his pants. At this point he went unconscious. According to him, when he came to, he heard a “whooshing” noise and then saw that the object was gone. He was extremely thirsty, had a headache, pain in his chin and legs, and couldn’t walk or speak. He crawled back to his pickup truck, which was 300 meters away, found himself incapable of driving it, but was then able to make his way home on foot. Upon returning “with others” the next day, there were physical traces seen that gave support to his claims. This week, we’ll look at the aftermath and the physical evidence.The case got the attention of Flying Saucer Review Editor Charles Bowen, who made arrangements to have it investigated by members of the UFO Investigators Network, an organization funded by FSR and formed in 1977 with the help of Jenny Randles who had proposed the idea. The resulting three-part report by UFOIN investigators Martin Keatman and Andrew Collins appears in the November-December 1979, Spring 1980, and September 1980 issues. Read more →
by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
When a single witness reports an episode of high strangeness involving a UFO encounter, having physical evidence in the form of traces left on the ground, or on the witness, really helps when arguing for the witness’s credibility. This was the case in the 1979 report by a forestry worker in Scotland who said he not only saw a mysterious domed object sitting on the ground, but that he was assaulted by two spherical objects with spike-like protrusions that rolled towards him. The case got the attention Flying Saucer Review Editor Charles Bowen, who made arrangements to have it investigated by members of the UFO Investigators Network, an organization funded by FSR and formed in 1977 with the help of Jenny Randles who had proposed the idea. The resulting three-part report by UFOIN investigators Martin Keatman and Andrew Collins appears in the November-December 1979, Spring 1980, and September 1980 issues. The case was also investigated by employees of the Livingston Development Corporation and local police from two stations. Read more →
Martin Willis welcomes Kelly Hughes and Sam N. Milodragovich, co-creators of the Frightday and Visitors podcasts, for a fascinating deep dive into UFOs, conspiracies, cryptids, and the enduring legacy of Art Bell’s Midnight in the Desert. Kelly Hughes has been fascinated by the paranormal since childhood—growing up listening to Art Bell with her father. As a longtime voice on the Frightday horror podcast (syndicated on the Dark Matter Digital Network), Kelly’s reporting and interviews led to VISITORS, a 2025 spinoff exploring UFOs, abductions, and the people behind the phenomena. Her warmth and curiosity have made her a standout in the UFO and paranormal community. Sam N. Milodragovich, Frightday co-founder and VISITORS host, brings a deep appreciation for the macabre and a skeptical yet open-minded perspective on the unexplained. With roots in horror, true crime, and high strangeness, Sam has interviewed remarkable figures from science, government, and beyond—unraveling the stories that linger between the known and the unknown. Together, Kelly and Sam bring their signature intelligence, humor, and insight to this conversation—touching on historical UFO cases, media narratives, and why the unexplained still matters today. SHOW NOTES
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In this episode, host Martin Willis interviews Dr. Irena Scott, who presents groundbreaking new UFO research that redefines Close Encounter (CE) investigations. The 1973 Pascagoula Abduction—often called the most credible and well-documented CE in history—is revealed to have deeper layers than ever known before. On October 11, 1973, shipyard workers Calvin Parker and Charles Hickson were fishing on the Pascagoula River when they reported being taken aboard a craft by strange humanoid beings—an event that captured global attention. But new findings suggest this encounter took place in a nuclear and military zone, raising critical questions: Why them? Why there? Dr. Scott’s research shows that the area was tied to facilities producing nuclear submarines, possibly armed with missiles. This connection places the event among other high-level UAP incidents involving nuclear sites—a pattern that commands scientific respect and government attention.
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In this in-depth interview, host Martin Willis welcomes veteran UFO researcher Donald Schmitt, protégé of Dr. J. Allen Hynek, the famed astronomer behind Project Blue Book. Schmitt shares rare personal insights into Hynek’s life, his shift from skeptic to believer, and the behind-the-scenes struggles with government secrecy. They explore pivotal UFO cases including Socorro, Roswell, Pascagoula, Travis Walton, and reveal how Hynek quietly investigated Roswell before its public rediscovery. Schmitt reflects on Hynek’s legacy, his influence on modern UFO research, and what Hynek might think of later landmark encounters such as the Ariel School Incident. A moving conversation about mentorship, truth-seeking, and carrying forward Hynek’s mission to legitimize the scientific study of the UFO phenomenon.
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By Charles Lear, read by AI (written before AudioBlogs) The history of UFO sightings and alien encounters as portrayed in the popular media is, mostly, separated into distinct periods: modern, from the late 1890’s airship flap followed by World War II “foo fighters” into post-1947 after the Kenneth Arnold report, and ancient interaction pieced together using “evidence” from the time of cave dwelling humans up to the time of the builders of cities and megalithic structures. UFOs depicted in Byzantine paintings (misinterpreted conventional symbols) the 1561 report from Nuremburg, Germany and the 1566 report from Basel, Switzerland are often thrown in during reviews of UFO history but what about the time in between then and the 1890’s? It turns out that there are quite a few reports from the period in question and they read like modern reports although they were written before the modern context of alien visitation. CONTINUE>
In this episode, host Martin Willis interviews Stacey Wright, Director of Phoenix MUFON (Mutual UFO Network), about her journey into UFO research and leadership within one of the country’s most active chapters. Stacey shares what sparked her fascination with the phenomenon and offers insight into how MUFON investigates sightings, evaluates evidence, and promotes public understanding. Together, they explore what drives interest in UFOs and UAPs, highlight notable Arizona cases, and discuss the importance of curiosity, critical thinking, and open dialogue in the ongoing search for truth. 🔹 Recorded in: Sedona, Arizona.
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Host Martin Willis sits down with Mitch Randall, developer of the SkyWatch Passive Radar UFO Detector and Research Team member of Harvard’s Galileo Project. The SkyWatch system is designed to definitively answer one of humanity’s biggest questions: Are we alone? Unlike conventional approaches, SkyWatch is a decentralized network of citizen-deployed radar receivers working together to create a real-time nationwide map of UFO flight patterns. Mitch has already developed and deployed a proof-of-concept system in collaboration with the Galileo Project, and now the goal is to expand SkyWatch into a consumer product, enabling anyone to join the network and contribute valuable UFO data.🌌 In this interview, we’ll cover: How SkyWatch technology worksThe results of the proof-of-concept with the Galileo ProjectThe vision for a nationwide citizen radar networkWhy funding and public participation are essential to make this a reality👉 Don’t miss this fascinating discussion about technology, science, and the search for extraterrestrial intelligence!
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear In the late 1960s, Dr. J. Allen Hynek was a key figure in getting members of the scientific community to take flying saucers/UFOs seriously. He was a prominent astronomer who was involved in the mystery at the very beginning as a consultant for the Air Force’s investigation, which operated for most of its existence as Project Blue Book until its termination in 1969. He was born in Chicago in 1910 and worked and lived in Ohio from 1935 until he became chair of the astronomy department at Northwestern University in Evanston, Illinois, in 1960. In 1973, he founded the Center for UFO Studies, which was based in Chicago. Then, in 1984, after spending his entire life in the Midwest, he rather suddenly moved with his family from Chicago to Scottsdale, Arizona. In this blog, we’ll explore what was going on behind the scenes. Read more →
Author, longtime UFO blogger and researcher Charles Lear joins Martin Willis to discuss his deep dive into UFO history. Lear shares how he first became fascinated by UFOs, what drives his meticulous research, and why he believes healthy skepticism keeps the field honest and grounded. Together, Martin and Charles explore some of the most intriguing historical UFO incidents, uncovering how cultural context and government attitudes shaped public perception. Lear also opens up about what he enjoys most about writing on this mysterious subject and how past cases still echo in today’s UAP discussions. Join us for an insightful, balanced conversation between two passionate voices in UFO research — bridging open-minded inquiry with historical perspective.
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Is the famous “Tic Tac” a home-grown technology? In this deep-dive, Martin Willis sits down with mathematician and technologist Joshua Bertrand to explore the cutting edge—and century-long history—of America’s lighter-than-air programs, vacuum-based aerogels, and the black-budget pathways that may intersect with the Nimitz Incident. Bertrand (B.Math, University of Waterloo; Computer Science honors; former EA/industry engineer) has spent nearly a decade cross-referencing open sources, defense programs, and material-science breakthroughs.
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In this exclusive interview, Martin Willis of Podcast UFO speaks with David Marler, Executive Director of the National UFO Historical Records Center (NUFOHRC). Marler has assembled one of the world’s largest collections of UFO books, case files, newspapers, recordings, and government documents—preserving over 75 years of UFO history. We’ll explore: How Marler built his vast UFO archive, The mission of the National UFO Historical Records Center in New Mexico, Why safeguarding these documents is critical for future research, Insights from historic UFO cases hidden in the archives, The importance of making these records accessible to researchers, educators, and the public.
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by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In August 1979, a case out of Minnesota that was chock full of trace evidence, including physical effects displayed by the witness in the aftermath, was investigated by Allen Hendry for the Center for UFO Studies. The incident and the related activity are described two days afterwards in the August 29, 1979, edition of the local Warren, Minnesota, Sheaf.
According to the article (page 8 of the pdf) headlined “Deputy Johnson Stunned by UFO Monday Morning,” Marshall County Deputy Sheriff Val Johnson was in his patrol car about 11 miles west of Stephen, Minnesota, headed south on TH 220 just before 1:30 am when he saw a bright light about a mile away, hovering over the road. Thinking it might be an aircraft in distress, he sped up.
As he did so, the light came towards him, and as it filled the interior of the car, he heard the sound of glass breaking. He lost consciousness and remembered nothing of about 40 minutes after that. The Warren Sheriff’s office received a 1088 (officer in distress) from Johnson at 2:19 am, and he is described as having sounded rational but disoriented. When he was asked about his situation he said, “Something just hit my car – strange. Something attacked my car – brakes locked up. I don’t know what is going on.” He was asked if he needed an ambulance and replied, “I don’t think so. I don’t think I’m leaking blood. My eyes hurt.”
Stephen Deputy Greg Winslow was dispatched and got to the scene at around 2:30 am. Johnson was brought by a Stephen ambulance to Warren and was also checked out at Grand Forks. His eyes were burned, and doctors described the condition as being similar to burns suffered by welders, which is known medically as actinic conjunctivitis.
Evidence that something had collided with the car consisted of a broken headlight (which one is not identified) with no damage to the frame around it, a dent and cracks in the windshield, damage to the red light on the roof, and two antennas bent at almost right angles. One of the more intriguing aspects of the case is that both the clock in the car and Johnson’s watch had stopped for 14 minutes.
An investigation of the scene showed that from the location where glass from the headlight was found, Johnson had travelled 854 feet before applying the brakes. Tire marks after that went for 99 feet to where the car came to a stop perpendicular to the road with the front wheels on the east shoulder.
Hendry is described as “a UFO expert from Chicago,” and the chief investigator for CUFOS, and CUFOS is described as “a private organization which took over from the Air Force after they abandoned investigating UFO incidents in 1969.” Hendry said that this was as credible a case as he had seen and estimated that he investigated three such incidents a year throughout the U.S.
CUFOS was obviously impressed with the case as the September/October 1979 issue of its publication, the International UFO Reporter, is almost entirely devoted to it. Banner-style, diagonally across the bottom of a picture of Johnson’s patrol car is this notice:
STOP THE PRESSES! IUR presents a special double issue deliberately delayed in order to provide you with the details of the dramatic Deputy Johnson case in Minnesota!
The coverage of case starts off the section headed “U.S. Sightings” on page 4 and continues to the end of page 9, after which there are eight cases, most having less than a full column devoted to them. What is noteworthy is that the coverage is straight-forward, just-the-facts style reporting, with very little speculation and no sensationalism.
Johnson and his credibility are examined in the section “Val Johnson: A Personal Profile,” which takes up the left side of page 4. It is explained that “everything we have learned about Val Johnson bespeaks a man of professional integrity and fastidious professionalism.” He is described as a 35-year-old married father of three who had been a member of the department for two-and-a-half years and a deputy sheriff for over a year after working as a tool and die maker.
The sheriff, Dennis Brekke, is quoted regarding Johnson’s credibility: “What he’s seen, he’s seen. None of us are trained to explain things we’re not used to seeing.” He is said to have described Johnson to Hendry as “highly intelligent,” not a drug user, and “nobody’s alcoholic.” Chief Deputy Everett Doolittle is said to have “echoed these sentiments” and to have added that Johnson was “almost ‘annoyingly’ fussy about his time and log keeping.” Brekke added, “I know Val, and if he said it happened, it happened.”
The rest of the article goes into great detail regarding the investigation by Hendry and the Sheriiff’s department that led to the conclusions presented in the Sheaf article. Six points of damage are listed as follows:
- One headlight was “smashed to pieces.”
- These was a small circular dent in the upper part of the hood.
- The windshield in front of the steering wheel was smashed.
- The red plastic filter of the police light on the roof was punctured and dislodged from its housing.
- The whip antenna on the roof was bent back at the base.
- The whip antenna on the trunk was bent back at 90º near the top.
Under the heading “Plane Near-Collision,” a newspaper editor is said to have come up with “the most popular theory,” which was that the damage to the car was caused by debris being kicked up by the prop wash of a plane and that the antennas were bent by the propellor hitting them.
While it is acknowledged there are over a dozen crop-dusting companies listed in the yellow pages for the area, and that drug smugglers have flown planes in the area at night, it is argued that the crop dusters don’t operate at night, and that a propellor hitting the front antenna would have likely sheared it and taken out the police light just in front of it as well. Presented as further arguments against the plane theory are: the lack of noise and the acceleration of the UFO described by Johnson; his eye burns; and the time discrepancy of his watch and the car clock.
by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
This is the last of a three-part series of blogs covering the case of an Italian security guard (with the company Val Bisagno), Piero Fortunato Zanfretta, who reported a number of encounters with UFOs and their occupants. After the first incident, he described in conscious recall being confronted by “an enormous green, ugly and frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet tall.” Under hypnosis the story came out that he was taken up into a craft where he was interrogated and examined by as many as ten creatures “about 10 feet tall, with hairy green skin, yellow triangular eyes and red veins across the forehead” with metal strips over their mouths. He said they told him they were from the “third galaxy,” wanted to talk to the people of Earth, and would return soon in greater numbers. Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano became interested in the case, stuck with it, and wrote a book about it titled The Zanfretta Case, first published in Italian in 1984 and then in English in 2014. The reader can refer to his website promoting the book for most of the information. What makes this case unique is that there is corroborating evidence in the form of possible landing traces, giant footprints, witness testimony from his co-workers, and observations made during the investigation by the Italian military police known there as the Carabinieri.
When we left off, Zanfretta had gone missing for the fourth time on December 2, 1979, while on patrol in an Austin Mini. His four-man Val Bisagno rescue team of two men each in two cars drove to the scene after spotting a UFO in the hills over Genoa. When they approached, two beams of light came down out of a large cloud, and both cars shut down. The men got out, and Lt. Cassiba shot at the beams, which seemed to have caused them to go out. One of the guards, Germano Zanardi, was reportedly so unnerved by the experience that he never recovered and shot himself in the head a few months later.
Zanfretta was hypnotically regressed after each encounter, twice on television, and the story that came out was that the creatures, known as the Dargos, intended to build a domed city on Earth in order to escape their doomed planet. At one point he described meeting their prince, Almoc. After his fourth encounter, he said they had tried to give him a glass sphere with a golden triangle in it intended for Dr. J. Allen Hynek, and he smashed it. He then managed to open a hatch and escape by jumping out of the craft, which was only around ten feet off the ground. He said that before his abduction, he had picked up a man with an egg-shaped head at a gas station. He said he was wearing a checkered suit, a metallic-looking shirt, and acted as an intermediary between him and the Dargos.
Zanfretta went missing again just after midnight on February 14, 1980, only this time, as described in the book, the car he was driving, a Fiat 127, had been prepared unbeknownst to him in order to track him and gather substantial evidence that there was something to his extraordinary claims. An engineer at the company, Nino Tagliavia, and a technician, Guiliano Buonamici, hid various items in the car, including a radio that would act as a homing beacon, cassette tapes and color photo plates to pick up any magnetic anomalies, and a thermometer that would record the highest temperature. Because Zanfretta was reporting that he and his various vehicles were being lifted up into the craft, they rigged cables that went from the wheel hubs to the body, that would only break if the car was lifted up. According to Di Stefano, this was all supervised by the director of Val Bisagno, Gianfranco Tutti, who had a look on his face that indicated that “this was the last time he would try to understand the Zanfretta mystery.”
A rescue team that included Tutti and Di Stefano was hot on Zanfretta’s trail and found the car quickly in the mountains in the area of Torriglia. The driver’s side door was open, but Zanfretta was nowhere to be seen. After a few minutes of searching in the freezing cold, Zanfretta was found unconscious on the edge of a ravine clinging to a bush and on the verge of falling in.
On this occasion, Zanfretta was cold as he should have been, as opposed to hot as he had been on previous occasions, and as he was taken back to Val Bisagno headquarters, he warmed up and returned to full consciousness.
According to Di Stefano, the next day, he watched as Tagliavia and Buonamici checked the various items they had placed in the car and found that the thermometer had recorded a high temperature of 109.4º F. They also found that all four of the cables had been broken.
As usual, Zanfretta underwent hypnosis that night with Dr. Mauro Moretti with Di Stefano present. Contradicting the evidence of the snapped cables, when asked if the car had been lifted up into the air that night as before, he said, “No, it was on the ground.” He did, however, describe it as becoming hot when it was lit up by “a huge light overhead.”
According to him, he picked up the egg-headed man (he described not being able to move as the car stopped and the door opened by itself) and continued to the square in Torriglia with the car driving itself without headlights. There, he saw a bright, metallic, 30-meter-diameter object hovering 4-5 meters above the ground. He said the egg-headed man ran into it and he, Zanfretta, ran away. He said that as he was running, the object went into the valley “towards… where there is a house made of metal… inside that deep hole.”
Zanfretta brings up the possibility that the rescue team got there too quickly saying, “The cars could have waited to come up. They might have given me that object and the problem would be solved.” He added, “I’m sure they have a base there because they definitely always leave from there.”
It is during this session that Zanfretta suddenly appeared to be channeling Almoc, first speaking in a strange language and then switching to Italian to address Moretti directly starting with “Earthling! Speak!” Moretti asks if they will show themselves, and Zanfretta/Almoc replies, “Everything in due course.” After explaining that they can’t get Zanfretta to stop fearing them and that they know Moretti and the others want to help, Z/A says “in due course we will show ourselves. Ending transmission.”
Zanfretta was reportedly abducted five more times with the last occasion being on August 8, 1981. In more hypnosis sessions it came out that he had received the sphere and hidden it the mountains where he regularly checked up on it. He said he was to activate it to enable a landing, but it never happened. He said in his last session on April 24, 1992, that the Dargos were going to take it back.
In the first year of his reported experiences, Zanfretta’s hair went from black to grey and within a few years was completely white. He gained 14 kg and reported that his urine turned black immediately after and that he vomited for days after his abductions. Val Bisagno gave up trying to understand what was happening to him, and he eventually lost his job and family and ended up living on a pension in Genoa. He remained a minor celebrity in Italy, and his story continues to intrigue.
by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In last week’s blog, we looked at the first two UFO and occupant encounters reported by Italian security guard Piero Fortunato Zanfretta. The case was investigated by the Carabinieri (Italian Military Police) and evidence was found in the form of possible landing traces in the first and second instances with the addition of huge footprints in the second. In conscious recall, Zanfretta described encountering “an enormous green, ugly and frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet tall.” Under hypnosis after the first instance, he said he was taken to a bright, hot place and examined by “monsters about 10 feet tall, with hairy green skin, yellow triangular eyes and red veins across the forehead” (he also described them having metal strips over their mouths) that told him they were from the “third galaxy,” wanted to talk to the people of Earth, and would return soon in greater numbers. Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano became interested in the case, stuck with it, and wrote a book about it titled The Zanfretta Case, first published in Italian in 1984 and then in English in 2014. The reader can refer to his website promoting the book for most of the information.
According to Di Stefano, Zanfretta’s second “encounter,” where his car was found by the Carabinieri to have been extremely hot inside and out in spite of the winter cold, got a lot of publicity. A hypnosis session was again arranged with the original psychotherapist, Dr. Mauro Moretti, except that this time it was to be televised on local station TVS.
The story that came out of this is described in the book, but Zanfretta was hypnotized multiple times and Di Stefano isn’t strict about chronology. It seems that in this session he described being taken up into a triangular craft in a beam of green light. According to him, the inside of the craft appeared to be too big to be accommodated by it and resembled a city. One of the creatures (in the hypnosis sessions described in the book, Zanfretta said they identified themselves bas the Dargos from the planet Titania) took his gun and fired five times (it was silent), which seemed to have explained the fact that his gun was found to have been fired that many times without him being able to recall who or what he’d fired at.
He was confronted by ten creatures that took him to be examined. They put a helmet on his head that served to translate, but it caused him great pain. When he asked why they were doing this to him, it was explained that they needed human guinea pigs. As the audience watched, he protested that he had a family and wanted to be left alone.
Zanfretta became a celebrity and experienced the problems that came with it, including having his mental health questioned. This caused him to regret having told his story. As for his mental health, his company, Val Bisagno, had him examined by a neurologist and he was declared “perfectly sane.” This helped his credibility, he was invited to appear on the national TV show Portobello (he was interviewed and regressed), and his story started to make international news.
Zanfretta’s superiors, out of concern for his safety and the safety of his fellow guards, put him on duty in a populated and well-lit area of Genoa, where he would patrol on a Vespa. Reluctantly, they gave him night duty, which he requested because the pay was better.
There were no episodes for over seven months until the night of July 30, 1979, when Zanfretta was on patrol. He went missing and was found by his fellow guards running in the dark on top of Mount Fasce. There was only one road up and other Val Bisagno guards who were patrolling it said he hadn’t been seen going up it, and this included a guard at the bottom of the road who stood in the middle of it when he was alerted Zanfretta was headed towards him after Zanfretta had failed to call in.
Another hypnosis session was arranged, and this time, at his request, Zanfretta was injected with sodium pentothal. Once again, he had said he had been lifted up into the craft by a green light. According to him, he met Almoc, prince of the Dargos, who was slightly taller than the others. Almoc told him their planet was doomed and that they needed a place to start over and intended to build a domed city on Earth.
Like many contactees before him, Zanfretta said he was warned about the danger posed to Earth by our atomic weapons. He also said he was shown a clear sphere with a gold pyramid inside and that Almoc told him this was a means, much like a television, to become familiar with the Dargos. He went on to say that Almoc told him they would return “when the great cold comes,” and give the sphere to an American professor whose name sounded like “hanky.” The doctor who had administered the pentothal reportedly suggested Hynek, and Zanfretta is said to have agreed, although he did not know who Hynek (presumably J. Allen Hynek) was. Zanfretta then described hitting buttons on a nearby console until a hatch opened, whereupon he jumped out of the craft, which was fortunately only around ten feet above the ground. He said the creatures lowered his Vespa after him.
According to the account on the website, Zanfretta went missing again on December 2, 1979, while driving an Austin Mini. His four-man rescue team of two men each in two cars drove to the scene after spotting a UFO in the hills over Genoa. When they approached, two beams of light down came out of a large cloud, and both cars shut down. The men got out, and Lt. Cassiba shot at the beams, which seemed to have caused them to go out. One of the guards, Germano Zanardi, was reportedly so unnerved by the experience that he never recovered and shot himself in the head a few months later.
Zanfretta was found and was again hypnotically regressed. The story came out that when he was at a gas station in downtown Genoa, he heard a voice calling him and couldn’t resist walking towards it. It came from a man he described as slightly taller than him, with an egg-shaped head. He said he was wearing a checkered suit and had something made of steel instead of a shirt.
According to him, the man ordered him to drive into a cloud and he was taken up into a craft. There, the creatures gave him a tour where he saw tubes filled with blue liquid containing creatures that included a caveman and a frog-like being said to be an enemy of the Dargos. He was given the sphere and told to give it to Hynek, and he smashed it on the floor. He had the helmet forced on his head and was shown pictures he was told were of everyone on Earth that included their information. They said everyone would become subjects in their experiments and that they would return again with another sphere.
During the session Zanfretta reportedly said, “Where have you been? And what do you want to do in Spain? Why? But all together? That will scare people!” It is noted that a report came out of Spain the next day of a dentist driving off the road terrified and blinded by a UFO that had followed him for an hour. He also said that he was told that someone was firing at the ship.
Next week: Intriguing evidence, more episodes, and the aftermath.
by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear
In the last couple of blogs, we looked at the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena 1978 UFO Chronology, which was unusual for the large number of humanoid reports with space suits, helmets and antennas in the descriptions. We also noted that there seemed to have been a flap in Italy in December and that one case listed that month is worthy of individual attention. The principal witness/experiencer was Piero Fortunato Zanfretta, and his story was investigated by Italian journalist Rino Di Stefano, who wrote a book about it that he published in 2014 titled The Zanfretta Case.
According to Di Stefano on his website promoting the book (we have read the book and recommend it), he isn’t a UFOlogist. He says that at the time of the incident, he was working at the Genoa Corriere Mercantile and looked into the case as a reporter. He then gives his account.
On December 6, 1978, just after midnight, Zanfretta, a private security guard, was on patrol in his Fiat 126 on “a dark and moonless night” near Genoa in the village of Torriglia. It was very cold, and the roads were icy after a snowfall that day. As he came up to a client’s empty country house in Marzano, his engine, lights, and radio stopped. He saw four lights moving around in the garden and got out to investigate, bringing along his gun and flashlight.
He went through a gate and moved along a wall in an attempt to surprise whoever might be there. He then felt something touching him from behind. He turned around and was “filled with terror” as he found himself inches away from what he described as “an enormous green, ugly and frightful creature, with undulating skin, no less than ten feet tall.”
Zanfretta dropped his flashlight out of fright when the beam from it hit the creature’s face, but he managed to pick it up as he turned and ran. As he was doing so, he noted that there was a large bright light behind him. Turning around, he saw that it was coming from a triangular craft that made a hissing sound and was bigger than the house it rose up behind. He said later that he felt an intense heat.
Zanfretta went to his car and called the security center. According to Di Stefano, Carlo Toccalino, the radio operator, “testified” that Zanfretta kept repeating excitedly, “My God, are they ugly!” and when asked if they were human said “No, they aren’t men, they aren’t men,” just before communication was lost.
Toccalino called the head of the security service, and an hour later, at 1:15 am, two guards found Zanfretta lying on the ground in front of the house. “Eyes bulging,” with gun and flashlight in hand, he jumped to his feet when he saw them and didn’t seem to recognize or understand them when they told him to lower his gun. The guards moved in to disarm him and were surprised to find that his clothes were warm in spite of the cold night.
The Carabinieri (Italian military police) investigated and found 9-feet-diameter horseshoe-shaped imprints in back of the house. The commandant of the Torriglia station, Antonio Nucchi, found that 52 residents there had witnessed a bright glare from the area of the house at the time of Zanfretta’s reported encounter.
The story made the local papers, and DiStefano says that while “most journalists” didn’t want to look into it too closely, he decided to because he didn’t believe that a responsible family man with a good reputation would put his job at risk with such a ridiculous story. He was also moved by the 52 witnesses discovered by Nucchi.
According to Di Stefano, the head of Zanfretta’s company believed he was “an honest man,” but was worried about bad publicity. Zanfretta is said to seemed “shy” and “uneasy” and to have said, “People call me on the phone at all hours just to play jokes on me. I don’t know what it was that I saw, but I saw it. I am not a liar”
Zanfretta agreed to be hypnotized and what came out reads like an extremely bizarre combination of a contactee and abduction experience. He said he was taken by “monsters about 10 feet tall, with hairy green skin, yellow triangular eyes and red veins across the forehead” that took him to a bright, hot place where they examined him. They told him they were from the “third galaxy,” wanted to talk to the people of Earth, and would return soon in greater numbers. They didn’t speak Italian and used a “luminous device” to translate.
According to Di Stefano, Zanfretta went missing three nights later on December 26, at 11:45 pm after calling in to say that his car was no longer in his control and was driving itself coming out of the Bargagli Tunnel. He said over the radio that he couldn’t see well because of the fog, as the car continued moving up a steep road. After a mile, the car stopped abruptly, and Zanfretta hit his head on the steering wheel. Speaking to the radio operator “in a very controlled voice,” he said, “The car has stopped. I saw a bright light. Now I am getting out.”
Zanfretta was found by his co-workers at in a field at 1:10 am. Even though it was raining, his clothes and head were “warm and dry.” He was scared, shaking, and crying, and said, “They say I must leave with them. What about my children? I don’t want to, I don’t want to…”
The Carabinieri were called, and when they examined the car, they found that its roof felt like it had been out in the sun all day, and its interior was “as hot as an oven.” They also discovered huge footprints all around it that were 20 inches long and 8 inches wide, “with a distinct empty spot between sole and heel.” Zanfretta’s gun was found to have been fired five times, but he didn’t remember who (or what) he’d fired at.
Nucchi sent an official report to the Genoa Magistrates Court to find out what sort of action should be taken, and it ended up being “filed away with this declaration: ‘no crime committed.’” Meanwhile this latest episode created a lot of media interest, and Zanfretta ended up getting hypnotized on local television, which led to him appearing on national television. His story went beyond Italy and gained worldwide attention, but there were still more episodes to come.
Next Week: More strangeness and more evidence.
For a detailed account of Zanfretta’s first encounter see page 5 of the Vol. 25, No. 1, Flying Saucer Review.
Martin Willis of Podcast UFO sits down with Emmy-winning journalist and political consultant Matt Ford, host of The Good Trouble Show. In this engaging interview, Matt shares his fascinating background, what sparked his interest in UFOs, and his thoughts on where the UAP conversation is headed.
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From the very beginning of the flying saucer/UFO mystery, Joseph Allen Hynek played a huge role as an investigator. According to him in his 1972 book, The UFO Experience, in 1947 he was asked to be a scientific consultant for the Air Force’s investigation program (which was then called Project Sign) based at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. He explains he was “then director of Ohio State University’s McMillan Observatory and, as such, the closest professional astronomer at hand.” He remained a scientific consultant for what operated as Project Sign, Project Grudge, and then Project Blue Book as of 1952, up until its termination in 1969. He went on with his own investigations, formed the Center for UFO Studies in 1973, and continued as its director until his death in 1986. In his almost 40 years of involvement with the mystery, Hynek’s beliefs and public stance evolved quite a bit. Read more →
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Martin Willis sits down with Chad Wanless who begins by discussing his life as an experiencer, then he and Professor David Brian Palachik to explore their groundbreaking discovery of five new UFO observables—adding fresh insight to the ongoing scientific investigation of UAP phenomena. Chad Wanless, MUFON Field Investigator and CCO of the Centre for the Scientific Study of Atmospheric Anomalies (CSSAA), shares findings from his research and his books, Hidden in Plain Sight: Evidence of Exotic UFO Propulsion and the forthcoming Missing Time Too, An Ordinary Man's Extraordinary Journey. Chad’s technical background in mechanical design and 3D modeling gives him a unique perspective on the analysis of anomalous aerial objects. Joining him is Professor David Brian Palachik, President & CEO of CSSAA and co-author of Hidden in Plain Sight. With over 40 years in electrical and electronic engineering—including work with IBM Canada and cutting-edge infrared imaging systems—Palachik brings deep technical and investigative experience to the conversation. He discusses the broader implications of their findings and how CSSAA is leading scientific research into atmospheric anomalies on a global scale. Don’t miss this thought-provoking interview on how new observables could reshape our understanding of UFO phenomena.SHOW NOTES
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Amidst the reports of drone incursions over military bases and northern New Jersey, there was a story that made the news involving video footage reportedly taken by a co-pilot of an unidentified object in the sky above Manchester Airport in England, along with still shots of what was said to be the same object, seen to be a blue sphere, hovering over the tarmac. As is typical of UFO coverage in the news these days, when it’s not about what government officials think about the phenomenon, the origin of the story was a post on social media with no real names provided for the poster or the source. All that was left for those with an interest in the case was to conduct some rather imaginative analysis of the footage and argue back and forth over the possible alien origin of the object. Read more →
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In this fascinating episode, Martin Willis of Podcast UFO sits down with Paul Hynek—entrepreneur, futurist, and son of legendary astronomer and UFO researcher Dr. J. Allen Hynek. Paul shares his unique insights on the rapidly evolving world of artificial intelligence and reflects on his father's pivotal role in shaping public and scientific discourse around the UFO phenomenon.From Project Blue Book to the future of AI, this conversation bridges the past and future in a truly unexpected way.BIO PAUL HYNEK, Wharton MBA, professor of business at Pepperdine. Paul has significant experience in visual effects, virtual reality, and Blockchain, and was instrumental in the sale of Giant Studios to James Cameron following Avatar. Paul is a frequent speaker on startups, future tech, and UFOs.
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🚨 In this powerful one-on-one interview, former U.S. Air Force Captain Robert Salas fires back at the recent Wall Street Journal article suggesting that Cold War-era UFO encounters were disinformation efforts to protect classified military programs. Salas, a key witness to the famous 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base incident—where 10 nuclear missiles mysteriously went offline during a UFO encounter—calls the article’s claim of an “EMP test” factually wrong and deliberately misleading.
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Join Martin Willis of Podcast UFO for an exclusive one-on-one interview with former UK police detective and leading UFO researcher Gary Heseltine, as he dives deep into his groundbreaking book, NON-HUMAN: The Rendlesham Forest Incidents – 42 Years of Denial. Often called "Britain’s Roswell," the Rendlesham Forest incident remains one of the most compelling and controversial UFO cases in modern history. In this interview, Gary reveals new evidence, firsthand witness accounts, and why he believes the truth has been systematically hidden for over four decades.
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Join podcaster Martin Willis as he sits down with award-winning investigative journalist Ross Coulthart for an in-depth one-on-one interview that delves into Coulthart’s groundbreaking work on the UFO/UAP phenomenon. Known for his fearless reporting and commitment to uncovering the truth, Coulthart opens up about his journalistic journey, his experiences covering the UAP subject for NewsNation, and what he believes the public deserves to know. Dean Alioto joins Martin after Ross to chat about his film screening and more at Contact in the Desert. 💬 In this exclusive interview: Ross discusses the challenges of reporting on UAPs in mainstream media, Insights into his interviews with whistleblowers and intelligence insiders, The state of U.S. government transparency on UFOs, The global implications of UAP revelations, What’s next for serious investigative journalism in the disclosure movement, Whether you're a skeptic, believer, or just curious about the truth behind the headlines, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss. NOTE: When your traveling, out of studio, things can happen.We did a sound test ahead of recording, but it seems as though his Rode lapel mic powered off. What you hear was captured through my mic. It sucks that this happened, but it is what it is. I had a sound engineer work on his audio for six hours on it, that is the best they could do.
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John Keel, most well-known as the author of the 1975 book, The Mothman Prophecies, was a controversial figure in flying saucer/UFO world back in the late 1960s and throughout the 70s due to his unorthodox views. He was first and foremost a fortean (interested in all things strange) and it was his view that whatever was behind the flying saucer/UFO phenomenon was not extraterrestrial and might be behind other phenomena as well. From May 1969 to April 1974, Keel put out the “irregular newsletter,” Anomaly. He asked those wishing to receive a copy to send him a self-addressed, stamped manila envelope, and the number of copies he printed depended on the number of envelopes he received. For fans of Keel, issue No. 1 provides a detailed look at his views and investigative methods (in the form of “concrete suggestions for investigating the phenomena”) just after his adventures in West Virginia and New York that he chronicled in The Mothman Prophecies. Read more →
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This week on Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis speaks with constitutional attorney and longtime disclosure advocate Danny Sheehan about the explosive new white paper from the New Paradigm Institute (NPI), Disinformation: The U.S. Government’s Suppression of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena and Advanced Science. Written by NPI’s Kevin Wright, the paper details how U.S. government agencies have used secrecy, disinformation, and classification to suppress knowledge of UAPs and advanced technologies. He believes that the "National Security State" (refers to the collection of institutions, laws, and personnel within a country dedicated to formulating, enforcing, and ensuring the continuity of its national security policy) is suppressing evidence when it comes to the UAP Topic.
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Martin Willis welcomes special co-host, filmmaker Dean Alioto, for an exclusive interview with Captain Ron (Janix)! Get the inside scoop on Contact in the Desert 2025 — one of the world’s premier events focused on UFOs, UAPs, and consciousness. Captain Ron shares what’s in store for this year’s event, including guest highlights, trending topics, and the growing momentum behind disclosure and human advancement.
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Could our planet be under the quiet watch of an alien civilization that's a million years ahead of us? In this fascinating conversation, economist and futurist Robin D. Hanson explores a bold and thought-provoking theory: that Earth might be subtly monitored by highly advanced extraterrestrials—perhaps as caretakers, silent observers, or participants in a vast, ancient experiment. Hanson, author of The Age of Em and co-originator of the "Great Filter" hypothesis, brings a unique interdisciplinary perspective, blending economics, evolutionary theory, and speculative futurism. We dive into the possibility that humanity may not be alone in its evolutionary journey—and that we might even share a distant, hidden past with these alien watchers.
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Join us for a captivating deep-dive as longtime UFO researcher and Podcast UFO blogger Charles Lear returns to share revelations from decades of investigative work into the UFO phenomenon. In this exclusive interview, Charles discusses the 2nd edition of his book, The Flying Saucer Investigators, which explores the mystery and the people who looked into it between 1947 and 1969.
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Join us for an exclusive conversation with Anthony DeLorenzo and Ryan S. Wood, co-authors of the powerful and thought-provoking book: "UFOs: Who Knows?: Quotations from Famous People: Celebrities, Science, Military, Religion, Politics, and Government." 🛸 What do world leaders, military generals, scientists, celebrities, and religious figures really think about UFOs? We also discuss a recent UFO sighting by Anthony, as well as MJ-12 documents, and much more.
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The history of UFOlogy is made up of stories that range from genuine mystery to outright fraud. The choice of what to take seriously and what to discard can be difficult for those in the early stages of exploring the subject. A good maxim to start with might be “consider the source,” and some good claims to examine with this in mind are those involving metals (lately referred to as “metamaterials”) said to have been recovered from flying saucers/UFOs.Metamaterial is a word that popped up in UFO world thanks to To The Stars Academy announcing in a July 25, 2019, press release that it had “acquired multiple pieces of metamaterials and an archive of initial analysis and research for their controversial ADAM Research Project.” It is explained that ADAM stands for “Acquisition and Data Analysis of Materials” which is an “academic research program” for the purpose of “exploiting of exotic materials for technological innovation.” Read more →
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In this interview, Podcast UFO host Martin Willis sits down with the Tedesco Brothers—John and Gerry—engineers and fearless UFO/UAP researchers who have spent years chasing the unknown. Armed with cutting-edge technology and their custom-built research vehicle, Nightcrawler: Eye on the Sky, they have captured 8 jaw-dropping videos of unexplained aerial phenomena over Long Island’s mysterious coast. Using infrared, radar, and advanced sensors, they reveal evidence that challenges everything we think we know.
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After Project Blue Book was shut down in 1969, private UFO groups were the only organizations left in the U.S. that would take UFO reports, and the two biggest were the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. Donald Keyhoe was ousted as NICAP’s director just three days before the December 17, 1969, press release announcing Blue Book’s termination, and NICAP quickly became a shadow of its former self while APRO, run by its founders Jim and Coral Lorenzen, remained a formidable and influential organization. That same year, a group of APRO investigators living in the Midwest organized by Walt Andrus as the Tri State Study Group, decided on May 31st to branch off from APRO and operate as the Midwest UFO Network. This was in reaction to the Lorenzens’ move towards a more centralized management strategy seeking to direct all field investigations from their office in Tucson, Arizona. The Lorenzens, particularly Coral, who had a reputation for being contentious (she frequently took out her ire in the pages of the APRO Bulletin, and her earliest targets as far back as 1952 were Albert K. Bender and James W. Moseley) took the Midwestern group’s decision personally and held a grudge for years to come. The Midwest UFO Network soon outgrew its Midwestern boundaries and the name was changed to the Mutual UFO Network in 1973. A rivalry developed between the two, and this resulted in clashes when they happened to converge on a given case, and a prime example of this is the 1981 Cash-Landrum case. Read more →
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n last week’s blog, we began looking at documents that provide a behind the scenes look at the rivalry between the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and the Mutual UFO Network. APRO was founded in 1952 by Coral and Jim Lorenzen and MUFON was founded in 1969 by members who split off from APRO amidst bad feelings. Things came to a head during the investigation of the 1981 Cash-Landrum incident. As it was reported to have taken place in Huffman, Texas, APRO handed the case over to the director of the Houston-based Vehicle Internal Systems Investigative Team, John Schuessler, who was also the deputy director of MUFON. Coral wrote an article one and a half years after the reported incident that was published in the June 1982 Vol 30, No. 6 APRO Bulletin headlined “Rumors Permeate Cash-Landrum Case” wherein she claimed to know that what witnesses Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum, and Colby Landrum saw was a “U.S. experimental aircraft.” She also insinuated that Schuessler, MUFON director Walt Andrus, and former Project Blue Book consultant and founding director of the Center for UFO Studies J. Allen Hynek were part of a cover-up as they all had ties to various government organizations. Schuessler responded with a five-page letter to Jim Lorenzen defending himself and pleaded that if APRO had real knowledge of what it was the witnesses saw, he should share it as all three witnesses, particularly Betty Cash, seemed to have suffered the effects of radiation poisoning. This week, we’ll begin with Coral’s response. Read more →
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In this episode of Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis dives deep into the mysterious world of UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and the tech that might be behind them — joined by cybersecurity expert Thom Hastings. With over 20 years in IT and a decade in security, Thom brings a hacker’s edge to the conversation. From red teaming and penetration testing to digging through cyber dumpsters for clues, his unconventional methods and curiosity have led him into the fascinating overlap between cybersecurity, and the search for truth about UFOs.
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Join host Martin Willis as he dives deep into the fascinating world of UFOs and crop circles with former guest G. O. Turner, a voice in the field of unexplained aerial phenomena.🔍 Topics Covered:* The rich history and evolution of crop circles—from ancient legends to modern-day enigmas. * Compelling case studies highlighting some of the most intricate and mind-bending formations ever recorded. * A look at the hard evidence: soil anomalies, plant biology, and firsthand eyewitness reports that challenge conventional science. * Exploring the physics behind UAPs—what forces could be propelling these mysterious craft through our skies? * The latest updates on the UAP phenomenon and what’s ahead for the field.
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In this live from California Podcast UFO exclusive, host Martin Willis sits down for a high-stakes, no-holds-barred conversation with UFO whistleblower Jason Sands and documentary filmmaker Darcy Weir. This interview marks the first time both men have appeared together since their public disagreement over Sands’ controversial claims.
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Professor Ted Peters teaches a fascinating summer course exploring the big questions about life beyond Earth! 🚀 In this special interview, Martin Willis visits him on location at his home to discuss the course and the mysteries of UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and the intersection of science, theology, and the humanities. 🔭Topics We’ll Explore: ✅ Are we alone in the universe? ✅ Do UFO sightings mean we are being visited? ✅ How do science and theology approach ufology? ✅ Ancient alien theories & abduction cases ✅ The idea of extraterrestrials as celestial saviors ✅ Government disclosure on UFOs ✅ Student-led discussions on the future of ET studies Don’t miss this exclusive conversation and an opportunity to enroll in Professor Peters’ Enlightening Summer Course!
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Former CIA officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou offers a revealing look into the shadowy world of government secrecy, shedding light on topics that have long intrigued the public. Drawing from his extensive background in intelligence operations, Kiriakou provides insights into UAP crash retrieval programs, mysterious drone incursions, and the persistent efforts to keep these matters hidden from public knowledge. Kiriakou delves into his own personal UAP sighting, offering a unique perspective shaped by years of experience within classified government programs. He discusses what he went through, as the only CIA employee connected to its interrogation program to go to prison for basically whistleblowing on the use of waterboarding torture.
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In this fascinating interview, longtime iconic UFOlogist Jacques Vallée discusses his recent publication, “Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles, The Journals of Jacques Vallee 2010–2019,” which led him on a deeper, independent field exploration of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) cases across Brazil, Argentina, Europe, and Russia. Back in Silicon Valley, Vallée’s professional involvement with innovative business ventures continues to inspire new insights drawn from biology and information physics. He shares his perspectives on historical UAP crash retrievals, the current state of UAP research, and how the U.S. Government might be moving toward greater transparency regarding these phenomena.
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Retired Army special forces operator, Lt. Col. Dr. John Blitch, PhD — a former Green Beret, Special Forces officer, and DARPA scientist — shares shocking revelations on non-human intelligence, military encounters, and exotic technologies. He discusses his past, his connection through his dad on the UFO topic, and a mind blowing encounter while mountain biking, his optimism for humanity, and much more!
This week's Blog: A ‘Typical’ UFO Abduction Account Before it was Typical
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In this exclusive interview, Australian UFO researchers Roger Stankovic and Irene Previn delve into the mysterious 1966 Westall UFO Incident — one of Australia's most compelling UFO sightings. Join us as they share their insights, explore their investigations in the United States at alleged UFO crash sites, and reveal their findings. Are we alone in the universe? Tune in to find out!🔍 Topics Covered:
✅ The 1966 Westall UFO Incident
✅ Australian UFO Incidents
✅ Mysterious UFO crash sites in the US
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In 1973, the U.S. experienced a wave of humanoid reports that are documented in the 1976 Center for UFO Studies publication by David Webb appropriately titled “1973 – Year of the Humanoids.” These sorts of reports weren’t unique to the States and just two years before, in 1971, a report came out of Canada that was looked into by William K. Allan, described as the “tireless UFO investigator of Calgary” in the June 1972 Flying Saucer Review Case Histories Supplement 10 where his report was published (page 6 of pdf). Read more →
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Are we truly alone in the universe? Former Marine and National Guard MP William Carter doesn’t think so—and he has the experience to back it up. In this exclusive interview, he reveals shocking details about Site C6 at Eglin Air Force Base, a restricted radar facility that has been monitoring unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) for decades. William recounts his first UFO sighting as a child in Georgia, an event he had long forgotten—until his time at Eglin in 2009 reignited his memories and forced him to confront the truth. What he learned at Site C6 confirmed his suspicions: the U.S. government is tracking UFOs, and they might even be bringing them down using advanced technology like EMP weapons. He also shares insights from military insiders, including a former radar technician who worked at Site C6 in the 1980s and 1990s, confirming that the Air Force has been monitoring UFO activity for decades. Could the rumors of “space junk” conveniently falling near Eglin AFB actually be cover for something far more mysterious? In this deep-dive discussion, William comes forward in a way as whistleblower, speaking with key figures investigating the UAP phenomenon. His story raises critical questions about government secrecy, military technology, and the future of disclosure.SHOW NOTES
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In this episode, we sit down with filmmaker Darcy Weir to discuss his latest docuseries, Pascagoula 73, which explores the shocking 1973 Pascagoula UFO abduction of Charles Hickson, Calvin Parker, and Maria Blair. This gripping tale of alien encounters, fear, and resilience has fascinated researchers for decades—did these individuals experience something truly out of this world? We also dive into Darcy's insights on Dark Alliance: The Inside Story of the Cosmic Con and what it reveals about the hidden side of UFOlogy.
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Is the truth really out there? Join us as we dive deep into the world of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) with Sarah Gamm, a seasoned intelligence expert with a B.S. in Astrophysics and an M.S. in Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction. With years of experience in satellite imagery analysis, nuclear counterproliferation strategy, and national security, Sarah brings a data-driven, intelligence-backed perspective to the mystery of UAPs. Having worked with the UAP Task Force, the Pentagon, and leading classified initiatives within the Intelligence Community, Sarah offers unparalleled insights into what the government really knows about UFOs, how satellite imagery plays a role in tracking them, and what the implications are for national security.
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Join UFOlogist Robert Powell and FLIR camera expert David Falch as they break down the flaws in the recent debunking of UAP FLIR videos featured in the NOVA episode: “What Are UFOs?”. They discuss the Aguadilla UFO case, common misinterpretations of infrared footage, and other cases where false explanations have been used to dismiss compelling UFO/UAP evidence. Are mainstream explanations missing key details? Are we seeing a pattern of misleading debunking tactics? Watch as Powell and Falch provide expert insights into what’s really happening in the world of UAP investigations.
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In this eye-opening interview, we dive deep into the shocking testimony of retired U.S. Air Force Captain Bob Salas, who has been at the forefront of the UFO disclosure movement. Salas, a former missile launch officer, has been pushing for the U.S. government to come clean about unexplained aerial phenomena (UAPs) and their potential implications. Salas famously reported an incident at Malmstrom Air Force Base in 1967, where a UFO allegedly disabled a fleet of nuclear missiles—an event that has remained one of the most compelling cases in UFO history. Could this be proof of extraterrestrial interference, or is there another explanation the government isn’t telling us? With growing pressure on military and government officials to disclose classified UAP encounters, Salas’ testimony raises serious questions about national security, government secrecy, and what we really know about these mysterious objects in our skies. Bob also speaks on his 1985 abduction experience.
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In this episode, we sit down with historian, Dr. Rebecca Charbonneau to explore her fascinating new book, Mixed Signals. At the height of the Cold War, amidst nuclear brinkmanship and deep political divides, an unlikely collaboration emerged between the United States and the Soviet Union in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Rebecca dives into the extraordinary partnership between Ukrainian astrophysicist Iosif Shklovsky and American astronomer Carl Sagan, whose groundbreaking work in radio astronomy brought the hunt for alien signals into the scientific mainstream. From bizarre experiments—like sending the sound of ballerinas’ movements into space—to navigating the political tightrope of Cold War diplomacy, this story is as thrilling as it is thought-provoking. Join us as Rebecca unpacks how the search for alien life not only opened up new frontiers in science but also fostered a unique philosophy of international collaboration, proving that even amidst earthly tensions, humanity could unite in its curiosity about the cosmos.
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Join Lue Elizondo, Kevin Wright, and Martin Willis as they dive into the latest updates in the world of UFO investigations. The discussion includes insights into a new whistleblower, Jake Barber, and an in-depth analysis of the video and claims recently featured on NewsNation. What does this mean for the UFO/UAP conversation? Are we closer to uncovering the truth? Tune in to hear opinions, thoughtful analysis, and the implications for the ongoing disclosure movement.
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Special Edition Part B: An in-studio interview, with Ryan Graves, former Lt. US Navy and F/A-18F pilot, to discuss the recent drone sightings, and UFO phenomena. Ryan shares his firsthand accounts, including his squadron’s experience witnessing the “Gimbal” — the first UAP video declassified by the Department of Defense. This extraordinary sighting took place aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt off the coast of Jacksonville, FL, in 2015. We also explore recent reports of drone sightings and their connection to the ongoing investigation of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs). Are these drones part of advanced technology, or do they point to something even more mysterious?
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Special Edition Part A: Film producer, Terri Randall on the making of PBS | NOVA | What Are UFOs. A discussion on how Terri put together this episode with NOVA’s science based format. Featuring both sides of witnesses, data, and the possibilities of conclusions.
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Join us for an in-depth conversation with acclaimed filmmaker James Fox as he delves into his latest groundbreaking film, The Program. This timely documentary explores the ever-growing conversation surrounding UAPs/UFOs and their implications, particularly as Capitol Hill intensifies its focus on these phenomena.
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Join us for an exclusive interview with filmmaker Dean Alioto as he takes us behind the scenes of his latest documentary, The Alien Perspective. In this thought-provoking film, Alioto explores humanity’s fascination with extraterrestrial life, blending historical accounts, expert insights, and cinematic storytelling to uncover the mysteries of the cosmos. Discover the inspiration behind the documentary, the challenges of capturing stories from eyewitnesses, and what Alioto believes the future holds for our understanding of UFO phenomena. Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, or somewhere in between, this conversation promises to leave you questioning what’s truly out there.
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In last week’s blog, we looked at a case that is typical of UFO reports in the news these days: it originated on social media, there was no proper name for the source, and a great deal of fruitless speculation and arguing followed. As if in answer to our complaints, a case showed up that has just about everything a researcher/investigator could hope for. It involves an Air Traffic Control recording of multiple pilots reporting strange lights moving around in unusual patterns near Eugene, Oregon. Supporting the fact that the recording is genuine, one of the pilots has come forward and talked to the news media.According to the article by Flynn Nichols headlined “Pilots told to ‘maneuver’ around Oregon ‘UFO’ in leaked cabin audio” published on the Newsweek website on December 12, 2024, a 44-minute recording was posted on Reddit by user SabineRitter on Sunday (which was December 8, 2024). The link to the original recording on LiveATC.net no longer works (the recording seems to have been deleted from the site), but there is an edited 13-minute, 28-second version still available on Youtube as of this writing. The article was updated later the same day with the statement from the FAA that “a pilot reported seeing unidentified lights while flying in Seattle Air Route Traffic Control Center airspace on Saturday, December 7.” It is explained by Nichols that “The URL of the archived recording from LiveATC.net contains a timestamp (Dec-08-2024-0430Z), which specifies the date and time the recording began: 4.30 a.m. on December 8 in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) or 8:30 p.m., December 7, in Oregon (PST)” and that “The URL also contains the code KEU, which is the airport code for Eugene Airport, and ZSE, which is the official abbreviation of the Seattle Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC).” Read more →
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Dive into the mystery of existence through music in this fascinating conversation with author Mike Fiorito about his latest book, (available February 1, 2025) UFO Symphonic: Journeys into Sound. Exploring music as a form of complex communication and a contact modality, Fiorito raises profound questions: Is music a bridge between past, present, and future? Could it connect us to another realm? Through personal accounts and experiencer stories, the book delves into the symbolic language of sound, dreams, and high strangeness, inviting readers on an extraordinary journey into the unknown.Show Notes
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In this special Christmas Eve episode, we're bringing you a pre-recorded conversation filled with fascinating insights! Whether you're celebrating Christmas, Hanukkah, or simply enjoying the holiday season, we're glad to have you here as Todd Curtis, a seasoned commercial drone pilot and aviation safety expert, returns to the show—first appearing in 2018/2019! With a wealth of experience spanning decades, from the Air Force to Boeing, Todd dives deep into fascinating stories and offers invaluable insights into aviation safety, risk management, and the industry's rapidly evolving challenges.Topics Covered:
✈️ Key milestones in aviation safety and cutting-edge risk analysis
🚁 How drones are reshaping the aviation landscape and what Todd's insights on the recent activity!
🛬 Todd's take on Boeing's evolution and the dynamics of global competition
🌎 Breakthroughs in flight safety and their global impact
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THIS WEEK'S BLOG: Pilot Reports of UFOs Over Oregon Captured on an ATC Recording
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South Africa has had its share of UFO reports, and thanks to Zimbabwe-based researcher Cynthia Hind, who put out UFO Afrinews from July 1988 to July 2000, we have a record of many of them. In the 1970s, Charles Bowen, the editor of London-based Flying Saucer Review, also had his eye on South Africa, and in the January-February 1973 issue, he mentions a flap there that, according to him, began in July 1972. Along with other reports, he presents a newspaper account of a dramatic case involving a UFO that seemingly damaged a tennis court in the town of Rosmead in the Eastern Cape Province. Hind gives details of the case in the first issue of UFO Afrinews, calling it “perhaps my best case” when it comes to physical trace cases and references her book, UFOs: African Encounters, as the source. Read more →
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In the annals of UFOlogy, there are many cases that, like zombies, refuse to stay buried even in the midst of convincing arguments and evidence debunking them. The case of the reported crash of an airship and recovery of its unearthly pilot in Aurora, Texas, in 1897 is a prime example of this. Read more →
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RYAN GRAVES CANCELED (his wife went into labor) / CARL ANDREASEN FILLED IN Carl talks about his experiences, his work on Skinwalker Ranch and other places of high strangeness & UFO activity, fascinating last minute guest!
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Join us for an intriguing discussion featuring former UK Ministry of Defence UFO investigator Nick Pope as he shares his insights on the recent surge in drone sightings. We're also joined by Marc D'Antonio, a former government contractor specializing in drone technology, to explore the potential implications and mysteries behind this so-called 'drone invasion.' Plus, first hand witness Trisha Bushley, and a clip from Lue Elizondo adding even more depth to this fascinating topic! Lue Elizondo, full video HERE.
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Explore the fascinating world of UFOs with Don Schmitt, this is a fascinating discussion with the leading investigator and authority on The Roswell Incident. A seven-time best-selling author, Schmitt has dedicated his career to uncovering the truth behind the most compelling UFO cases. From co-authoring UFO Crash at Roswell—the inspiration for a Golden Globe-nominated film—to serving on the executive council of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER), Schmitt is at the forefront of global efforts to understand and disclose the reality of UFOs. Don speaks on what he considers the most compelling aspects of the Roswell Incident, and how it holds up still after 77 years.
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The reported sighting on February 4, 1977, of a UFO and creature by students at the Broad Haven Primary School in Pembrokeshire, Wales, was the beginning of a flap throughout the county. The area where reports were most concentrated has been dubbed “The Broad Haven Tringle.” Multiple witnesses were willing to go on record, including with the Ministry of Defense, saying they had seen not only strange craft, but silver-suited creatures as well. One dramatic encounter was recalled by a witness for Episode 3 of the 2023 series, Encounters, produced for Netflix by Steven Spielberg’s company. While this is many years later, the story told by the witness is the same as that told by the witness to an investigator who spoke to her and her mother closer to the event just months later. Read more →
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Join Marc D'Antonio as he co-hosts with special guests James Fox, Ron James, Loren Coleman & Greg Bishop in a heartfelt tribute to the late Christopher O'Brien, a renowned UFO and cattle mutilation researcher. Together, they share memories of Christopher's groundbreaking work, discuss the mysteries he passionately explored, and reflect on his lasting legacy. We also touch on the recent loss of Emily Trim, from the Ariel School incident. The conversation also dives into exciting updates on their latest film projects, behind-the-scenes insights, and thought-provoking discussions on the phenomena shaping our understanding of the unknown.
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Join writer, director, philosopher, and ufologist Ross Wachsman as he unravels the mysteries of a post-UFO truth world. A Yale and USC alumnus, Ross is the creator of DIY Disclosure, a movement empowering activists to uncover the unknown. His award-winning films (Ascension, Emotional Vacation) and groundbreaking talks, like at Contact in the Desert, explore the intersection of UFOs, philosophy, and technology. As an AI entrepreneur, Ross is building tools to share truth in an era of misinformation.
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Join Martin and Charlie Parish as they share exclusive insights from their experience attending the groundbreaking Congressional UAP Hearing on November 13, 2024. They discuss what it was like behind the scenes, in line talking to like minded people, UFO Incidents, the Ariel Phenomenon movie by Randall Nickerson. The hearing was hosted by the House Oversight Committee, this historic event focused on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) and featured compelling testimonies from: Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, Author and Former DoD Official Luis Elizondo, Former NASA Associate Administrator Michael Gold, Investigative Journalist Michael Shellenberger
by Martin Willis: At the last minute, I decided to make another trek to Washington, DC, for my second historic UAP Congressional Hearing. I flew up from Savannah, met with Randall Nickerson, and stayed with a nice friend of Chris Lehto’s, just a few miles from the Capitol. Staying there allowed me to do my regular Tuesday night show, though sleep was elusive on a sofa. I told Randall to call me if the crowd started gathering early—and sure enough, at 2:45 AM, I was up and took an Uber to the Rayburn Building, arriving to find 16 people already in line ahead of me. The frigid 38-degree wind tunnel sidewalk was brutal, and I regretted not bringing warmer clothes, as others huddled in blankets and down jackets.Robert Salas, early morningAs the crowd grew, it was uplifting to see familiar faces from last year, and I struck up conversations with new friends, like Sydney from Yale, who’d founded a UFO society and shared an amazing encounter story. Talking with fellow enthusiasts made the long, cold wait bearable. A fan of my show, a physician and his wife, stood nearby, chatting all morning, and another gentleman named Jason saved my stream by lending me the right charger during the hearing!By 7:00 AM, we were finally let inside. After navigating the labyrinth of the Rayburn building, we grouped up to avoid people cutting in line—a repeat of last year’s chaos. I made a point of keeping the order fair, though a couple of people pushed back; they later apologized, which I appreciated. It was good to see familiar names like Robert Salas, Steven Bennett, and Darcy Weir, and I even ran into Representative Tim Burchett, who remembered being on my show. Later, Lue Elizondo stopped by to greet us, as did James Fox, Danny Sheehan, and Ryan Graves, who will join my show in January.With Keith Taylor & James FoxOnce we were finally seated, the energy in the room was electric. My early morning paid off as I was just three rows back, dead center. I live-streamed the government’s feed, commenting along the way. Though many viewers hoped for groundbreaking revelations, most agreed that the focus is now on pushing for transparency and raising public awareness.Overall, it was an incredible experience, both for the hearing itself and the connections I made. Talking to fellow enthusiasts in line and meeting dozens of fans was truly the highlight of the year, another memorable chapter in this mysterious UFO journey.Tuesday’s Guest: Charlie ParishMy next show, Tuesday, November 19 will be with Cinematographer Charlie Parish, who was also attending in the front row.
Here is a briefing below that I had generated.Sources:* Hearing Wrap Up: Transparency and Accountability Needed to Provide Accurate Information on UAPs to the American People – United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability * UFOs and UAPs should be studied by the U.S., experts tell congressional hearing : NPR
Summary:A joint hearing was held by the House Oversight Committee subcommittees on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation and National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs on November 13, 2024, focusing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs). The hearing featured testimonies from four experts: Retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, Author and Former DoD Official Luis Elizondo, Former NASA Associate Administrator Michael Gold, and Journalist Michael Shellenberger. Read more →
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Researcher and author Laird Scranton is our special guest. Laird delves into the ancient symbolic aspects of UFO encounters, exploring connections between traditional symbols, cosmology, and the unexplained phenomena that have captivated humanity for centuries. Drawing on his extensive research into ancient myths, linguistics, and sacred knowledge systems, Laird helps us uncover how ancient cultures may have recorded encounters with extraterrestrial or otherworldly entities through symbolic representation. Could these symbols hold clues to understanding modern-day UFO encounters? Join us as we explore this fascinating perspective on a topic that bridges the ancient and the contemporary.
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Dive into the mysterious world of Texas UFOs with Daniel Alan Jones, investigative reporter for The Vortex. Daniel has spent over a decade uncovering Texas-based UFO sightings, legends, and unexplained events. As the creator of the Texas UFO Network, he connects local enthusiasts and shares in-depth insights into the Lone Star State's UFO history. His latest project, Aurora, chronicles the 1897 UFO mystery from Aurora, Texas—a fascinating legend that blends fact, folklore, and over a century of intrigue.
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Betty and Barney Hill came to the world’s attention when the report that they were abducted in 1961 by occupants of a UFO was taken seriously in the mainstream press. What is not widely known is that Betty turned to UFO investigation after this, and when Barney died in 1969, she became more deeply involved and travelled from conference to conference giving lectures on the subject. Betty’s niece, Kathleen Marden, co-authored the 2007 book with Stanton T. Friedman, Captured!, about her aunt’s and uncle’s experience. In Chapter 25 titled, “Fall From Grace,” Betty’s “commitment to solve the UFO mystery” is described. According to the authors, Betty received cautions and criticisms from members of the UFO community who were concerned that her subjective approach and intense belief were causing her to become the subject of media attention for all the wrong reasons and putting her credibility at risk. Even so, she is credited with participation in cases that have become part of the literature, and this week, we’ll look at one of those. Read more →
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🎃 Halloween Special Alert! 🎃 Join us for a spine-tingling episode as veteran author, UFOlogist, and ghost investigator Linda Zimmermann dives into the world of the paranormal! In this Halloween special, Linda shares her fascinating ghost investigations, explores eerie connections between UFOs and the paranormal, and reveals chilling insights on ghosts, hauntings, and beyond. Whether you’re a believer or just curious, get ready for some real-life stories that blur the lines between our world and the unknown. 👻🛸 Don’t miss out on this deep dive into the supernatural!
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Join us for this special Saturday night show with award winning filmmaker, Mark Monroe and producer director, Paul Crowder on the upcoming premier (Sunday 10PM, ET/PT, Oct 27) of their four part series Beyond UFOs and the Unknown, on MGM. They talk about their own interests in UFOs and why they no longer feel the threat of ridicule for diving into the topic.How to watch: https://rb.gy/8zxmgi
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In this episode, longtime podcaster Jim Harold joins Martin for an intriguing conversation on UFOs, the paranormal, and how the two may be connected. With nearly two decades of experience in paranormal podcasting, Jim shares insights from his shows, The Paranormal Podcast and Jim Harold’s Campfire, along with captivating stories from his listeners. Tune in for a deep dive into unexplained phenomena, ghostly encounters, and the mysteries that lie beyond.
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In this episode, guest Philip Kinsella delves into the mystery of the Greys. Who are they, why are they here, and what are their true intentions? Despite decades of UFO research and alien abduction reports, we are still no closer to understanding this elusive force that seems to operate beyond our reality, lurking like shadows in the night. As an author and UFO researcher, Philip takes a deep dive into the phenomenon, exploring strange occurrences around the world. He also discusses his personal encounters as well as his twin brothers’ and the possibilities of this being an interdimensional phenomena.
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Special guest Dan Carlson shares his two childhood UFO sightings and his role in investigating the 2019-2020 UAP/drone flap in NE Colorado and western Nebraska, featured globally by the Associated Press. Dan discusses why his interest in UAP has been rekindled and the role of faith in exploring these phenomena. We discuss ideas of what the visitors may be and religious beliefs, the bible and more.
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Reports of UFOs by truckers are common enough that an entire book could be devoted to this subject alone. Reports range from two drivers (a married couple) being chased by a bubble-shaped craft full of bird-like creatures, to an entire tractor-trailer being sucked up into a UFO, along with the trucker who was driving it. In 1972, a trucker in South Carolina claimed not only to have seen a UFO, but that it was following him on a nightly basis.According to the article (page 4 of the pdf) headlined “Truck Driver Believes ‘Saucer’ follows Him,” in the January 26, 1973, Gaffney, South Carolina, Ledger, a driver for Charlotte-based Akers Motor Lines, Gerald Summey, reported that he had been followed for three months by “an oval-shaped object, which glows like a fluorescent light.” “At least a dozen of Summey’s trucker friends” are reported to have seen it as well. One sighting is described where Summey, along with another Charlotte-based truck driver, watched the object through binoculars as it landed in a field. It’s described as “oval, with a black base and holes all around the base area.” The personnel manager at Akers is reported to have had “no qualms” regarding Summey’s character and it is said that Summey “reportedly neither drinks, smokes, nor ‘pops pills’ to stay awake.”Read more →
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Martin discussed the picturesque area, as well as taking calls. Then a prerecord with Martin, and event organizer, Danny Reid gives us an overview if the 2024 Shag Harbour UFO-Expo.
Tune in on October 02, at 9:00 AM ET for a live show with Ryan Sprague: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdQnI...
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Join guest Jim Lawrence, a native of New Brunswick, Canada, and lifelong UFO enthusiast. With a deep passion for the unknown, Jim has devoured countless books on UFOs and now serves as a MUFON investigator. In this live recording from the Shag Harbour UFO EXPO, Jim dives into well-known UFO incidents and shares intriguing cases he's personally investigated, including some with connections to his own acquaintances. Don’t miss this fascinating exploration of UFO mysteries!
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Guest, Stanley Milford Jr. discusses his book, THE PARANORMAL RANGER: A Navajo Investigator’s Search for the Unexplained. Milford shares gripping stories from his career as a Navajo Ranger, investigating the strange and supernatural across the Navajo Nation. From eerie encounters with skinwalkers and UFOs to chilling cases of hauntings and livestock mutilations, his memoir provides a unique perspective shaped by his Navajo and Cherokee heritage. Join us as Milford offers insights into the paranormal mysteries that haunt one of the largest Indigenous territories in the U.S. We also take a few phone calls.
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Our guest is, Bruce Rapuano, who is a mainstream scientist that shares his personal encounters with highly advanced beings. Abducted along with many others, Bruce’s story offers a rare, first-hand look into this phenomenon. His book, Dominion Lost, presents compelling purported technological evidence of an alien presence, including advanced UFO propulsion systems and mysterious implanted device and more.
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Transmedium: Puerto Rico’s UFOs Guests, filmmaker Darcy Weir who teamed up with Puerto Rican UAP researcher Andy Marcial to investigate unexplained aerial phenomena across Puerto Rico. The film features the whistleblower behind the leaked 2013 Aguadilla UAP footage and showcases Marcial’s expertise, known for leaking 2021’s DHS videos through his NY_UAP_Discussion platform. Through compelling witness testimonies and expert analysis, the documentary explores the UAP and NHI phenomena that have intrigued pilots, Navy personnel, and witnesses for years. Darcy and Andy are now booking conference presentations and interviews to discuss their research and its far-reaching implications.
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Guest, Lue Elizondo discusses his newly released book, Imminent: Inside the Pentagon’s Hunt for UFOs. As the former head of the Pentagon’s secretive UAP investigation program, Elizondo unveils hidden truths that challenge our understanding of national security and the very fabric of the universe. Drawing from his vast experience within some of America’s most classified operations, he shares startling revelations about the U.S. government’s deep involvement in UAP research, mysterious craft that defy the laws of physics, and the unsettling reality of nonhuman intelligence surveilling our military. This eye-opening conversation is a must-watch/listen for anyone curious about the profound implications of these phenomena.
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In this episode, we’re excited to welcome special guest Earl Anderson, who will be diving deep into the mysterious world of UFO encounters and high strangeness. Earl brings a wealth of experience from his extensive investigations, where he’s gathered numerous samples and firsthand accounts from those who have experienced the unexplained. Together, we’ll explore the profound and often puzzling phenomena surrounding UFO sightings, the strange occurrences that accompany them, and the powerful stories of those who have come face-to-face with the unknown.
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This is a combination of the final three series of the blogs; Abducted by Hairy Dwarves in Brazil, Parts 2, 3 & 4.
Links below are to the text versions:
https://podcastufo.com/part-ii-abducted-by-hairy-dwarves-in-brazil/
https://podcastufo.com/part-iii-abducted-by-hairy-dwarves-in-brazil/
https://podcastufo.com/part-iv-abducted-by-hairy-dwarves-in-brazil/
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Chris Lehto returns to discuss the UAP hearing, over a year later. We dive into memorable moments, like being the last people into the event and spotting ourselves in footage, and touch on future UAP hearings. We discuss several insights from Lue Elizondo's new book, Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs. Chris shares details on his upcoming fieldwork in Norway, collaborating with experts on cutting-edge UAP detection systems, and recaps his background as an F-16 pilot and his journey into UFO research. We also discuss Mick West's debunking efforts, safety reporting in aviation.
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Alejandro Rojas is back to talk about what he has been working on the last few years and the insights he has gained. He founded a new non-profit, UAP Discovery, which he will discuss in detail.
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Guest, Sam Maranto, Ufologist/Investigative Researcher: August 21st marks the 20th anniversary of the 2004 Tinley Park Mass Sighting. Hundreds witnessed and recorded this event on video. Was it one massive object with multiple lights hovering over this populated Chicago suburb, or a fleet of separate objects? One thing’s certain – it defied easy explanation. In the days leading up, similar reports and videos flooded in worldwide to the National UFO Reporting Center. Police, radio, and TV stations in Chicago were swamped with calls from concerned citizens. Tinley Park wasn’t alone in experiencing something unusual. Incredibly, another occurrence happened on October 31st that year. Featured in several UFO TV series, this remains one of the best-documented mass sightings in recent history, offering evidence of the event and details about the objects themselves.
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Be prepared for a sciencey podcast! Our guest, Robert Schroeder has a longtime theory on the topic that most skeptics use: “They (meaning extraterrestrials) cannot get here from there”. Maybe with Robert’s theory, they could and can? Join us while Robert and I will have a live face to face chat on Cape Cod.
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The history of civilian UFO/flying saucer research in Brazil goes back as far as that of the United States. The first organization to be formed there was Civil de Objetos Aéreos Nao Identitificados (Civil Investigation Center for Unidentified Aerial Objects) founded by Húlvio Brant Aleixo in Belo Horizonte in 1954. Aleixo was a professor of psychology at the Catholic University of Minas Gerais and was an active investigator for much of his life. He was one of the people Bob Pratt worked with when he did his investigations for his 1996 book UFO Danger Zone, and according to his biography in a memorial (he seems to have passed away on World UFOlogy Day, June 24, 2005) posted January 9, 2006, on the UFO Magazine website, he was a consultant on UFOs for the Brazilian Air Force. Documents describing a case he reported to the Brazilian Ministerio Da Aeronautica in 1974 can be found online. He was the principal investigator of a reported abduction said to have occurred over a period of approximately four and a half days (109 hours) from May 4, 1969, to May 9, 1969, in Bebedouro, (not the municipality of São Paulo) an area over 100 miles north of Belo Horizonte, and that is the case we’ll be looking at in this blog. Read more →
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Prof. Greg Eghigian discusses his new book: “After the Flying Saucers Came” which explores humanity’s fascination with UFOs and the possibility of extraterrestrial visitors. Modern UFO sightings, emerging during the Cold War and space age, led to disputed government inquiries, sensational news stories, and dedicated investigators. Greg and Martin get into a very interesting on how people react to the phenomenon and the possibilities of what it all could mean.
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Guest Alan Pearce discusses the profound and often surreal journey of coma survivors and delves into the mysteries of consciousness unlocked by near-death experiences. In his book COMA and Near Death Experiences he explores, from the stunning liberation of the mind from the body to the risks posed by coma-inducing treatments, this exploration unveils a spectrum of conscious states experienced during comas, revealing both the beautiful and disturbing dimensions of these encounters.BIO: Alan Pearce is a journalist, broadcaster, former BBC correspondent, and author of several books. He has contributed to numerous publications, from Time Magazine to The Sunday Times of London.
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In the April 1971 issue (page 6 of the pdf) No. 1-2 of the Scandinavian Newsletter, published by UFO-Sweden, there is an article headlined “I met a flying saucer.” According to the abstract, the report that follows was first published in the Norwegian weekly magazine Hjemmet and translated into English by Anton Lidström of the Trondheim UFO Society. The case involves an encounter with a flying saucer reported by a man who said he came upon it while driving near Helleland, Norway, at around 5:30 p.m. on October 29, 1970. According to the report, the encounter left him without a windshield, and he seemed to have suffered some physical effects as well. Read more →
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Join our guests Krys and Ariel as they discuss how they have done a deep dive into the fascinating world of UFOs. From compelling sightings to unexplained phenomena, they explore the mysteries surrounding unidentified flying objects and more. Krys also discuses her own encounters.
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UFOs were big news in 1973. Besides the Pascagoula and the Coyne incidents, there were flaps all over the United States. One in Piedmont, Missouri, got started that year in late February with UFO reports involving cars stalling and radio interference. These caught the attention of a physics professor, Harley D. Rutledge, who was chairman of that department at Southeast Missouri State University at Cape Girardeau. Rutledge became fascinated to the point that he put together an investigation team of scientists, arranged funding, and ended up spending more than seven years observing unexplained lights while collecting data and photographs. In late 1973, he gave a presentation of what he and the group had gathered up to that point at the fall meeting (attended by John Schuessler of the Mutual UFO Network) of the Missouri section of the American Association of Physics Teachers. Rutledge finally published a book describing the investigation titled Project Identification: The First Scientific Field Study of UFO Phenomena in 1981. Read more
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For those of you who may have an interest in art: Robert K. Wittman had a remarkable career as an FBI agent for 20 years, from 1988 to 2008. Specializing in art theft and cultural property crime, Robert became the FBI’s go-to expert for these types of cases. His impressive work undercover led to the recovery of over $300 billion worth of stolen art and property across 20 different countries. His extensive undercover operations are detailed in his book, Priceless: How I Went Undercover to Rescue the World’s Stolen Treasures. He has fascinating stories.
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In 2008, after 20 years with the FBI, Robert Wittman retired from the Bureau and brought his expertise to the private sector. He sought to create a Security and Recovery Consulting firm that would draw on his unique investigative experience to protect its clients from losses related to theft, fraud or forgery. Since its inception, Robert Wittman Inc. has grown far beyond its original vision, providing protection and recovery services to more than 100 public and private collections worldwide. Robert Wittman Inc. continues to proudly serve a diverse portfolio of institutions, auction houses, collectors, galleries, insurance companies and Nations committed to protecting their cultural assets.
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Join us for an intriguing discussion with guest DR ROGER STANKOVIC as we delve into the mysterious “Havana Effect” on UFO witnesses. The Havana Syndrome, initially discovered affecting US diplomats and intelligence staff at the former U.S. embassy in Havana, Cuba in November 2016, has since been reported globally.
Also featured in this episode, LES VELEZ, founder of the Organization for Paranormal Understanding and Support (OPUS), shares insights into this non-profit organization, which was established in 1994 to provide support and education for individuals experiencing unusual, paranormal, or anomalous phenomena.
Additionally, JEREMY RAY recounts his incredible UFO encounter and shares his experiences working for Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS). This fascinating interview is one you won’t want to miss!
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Join us for an intriguing discussion with guest DR ROGER STANKOVIC as we delve into the mysterious "Havana Effect" on UFO witnesses. The Havana Syndrome, initially discovered affecting US diplomats and intelligence staff at the former U.S. embassy in Havana, Cuba in November 2016, has since been reported globally.Also featured in this episode, LES VELEZ, founder of the Organization for Paranormal Understanding and Support (OPUS), shares insights into this non-profit organization, which was established in 1994 to provide support and education for individuals experiencing unusual, paranormal, or anomalous phenomena.Additionally, JEREMY RAY recounts his incredible UFO encounter and shares his experiences working for Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS). This fascinating interview is one you won't want to miss!
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This week, join MUFON UFO researchers, filmmaker Ron James, along with Bob Spearing, as they delve into the case of a purported UFO crash in Oregon. Discover how the internet's many eyes quickly demystified the image as something other than. We'll also preview what to expect at the upcoming MUFON Symposium in Dallas, including discussions on alleged UFO crash debris, purported metamaterials, and unique UFO encounters. Plus, get insights into the fascinating speakers and lectures lined up for the event.
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Award-winning author Linda Zimmermann presents a compelling exploration of over a century of UFO sightings in the Hudson Valley, New York, as well as northern New Jersey and western Connecticut. Her comprehensive research, combining eyewitness accounts and archival material, reveals startling patterns and events. The book covers mysterious airships of the early 1900s, various UFO shapes, abductions, the 1980s sighting wave, and Pine Bush, the UFO Capital of the Northeast. Zimmermann also investigates how animals react during UFO encounters, often alerting witnesses with their unusual behavior. This intriguing perspective suggests that animals worldwide share similar reactions to UFO phenomena, offering new insights for future research.
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On December 17, 1969, a news release from the Office of Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs) announced the termination of Project Blue Book. According to the document, Secretary of the Air Force Robert C. Seamans Jr. stated in a memo to Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. John D. Ryan that “the continuation of Project Blue Book cannot be justified either on the ground of national security or in the interest of science.” An early indication that this was coming was Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a scientific consultant for Project Blue Book for the entirety of its existence and Projects Sign and Grudge before it, finding out that there was nothing for him in the budget for the upcoming year. Of course, not everyone agreed with the Air Force’s decision and people continued seeing UFOs, but they no longer had an official organization prepared to take reports. Read more →
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In this episode, I’m joined by true crime podcaster, Kate from Nightmare Houses as she discusses her podcast episodes that include homes that one should feel safe in, but sometimes terrible things happen, from hauntings, to all kinds of twisted crimes, murders and mysteries. In particular, we delve into the Karen Read murder trial. Karen Read stands accused of murdering her boyfriend, Officer John O’Keefe, at 34 Fairview Road in Canton, Mass on January 29, 2022, but she insists it’s a cover-up which would include Canton Police officers. Outside the Norfolk Superior Courthouse, Read’s supporters, dressed in pink, passionately claim her innocence. Meanwhile, prosecutors argue that the evidence clearly indicates a relationship gone wrong. Tune in for an in-depth discussion on this controversial case.
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Guest Mike Fiorito, author of “For All We Know.” Through compelling narrative and storytelling, his book intricately weaves together themes from philosophy of mind, cosmology, parapsychology, psychedelics, and ufology. Listen in while Martin & Mike get into a great discussion about little talked about philosophical thoughts about what the UFO phenomena may be.
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In last week’s blog, we looked at UFO reports by Pennsylvania citizens that made their way from various agencies, including local police, to the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency, which recently released records of these. On February 2, 2024, an article by Millie Emmett headlined “UFOs reported to Essex Police highlighted in data” was posted on the Daily Gazette website that describes sightings found in a list of UFO reports released by the Essex Police. This week, we’ll look at some of the sightings described there as well as others in the Essex area. Read more →
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Alejandro Rojas for extra long news, with an exclusive announcement and more, then guest Cheryl Costa talks about reports of UFOs from way back as well as New York state hot spots by county, her ongoing research and weekly blog: syracusenewtimes.com
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After our guest, David Jones saw a TV program that focused on the iconic Ramey Memo, which revealed the word; "Wreck" deciphered. Right then and there, he knew there was much more to Roswell UFO Crash then the skeptics claim. There are claims such as the "Mogul Balloon" theory on Wikipedia as what really crashed at Roswell. David spent every waking hour for over a year with lots of sleepless nights decoding what can be seen, which is 66 of the 78 words on the memo. Is this the smoking gun we have waited for? Or, will it take using AI (without bias) to finally be taken seriously?
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From June 01, 2016 The listener can review of what was said then and where we are now. Martin Willis was the first to interview former DoD insider, Chris Mellon. Chris talks about where he ventured with interests in the UFO topic when he was on the inside. What access levels government officials may or may not have, including the US president and why he joined UFOData, as well as the goals they hope to achieve. Chris Mellon's background: Chris graduated from Yale with a Master’s Degree in International Relations, he worked for many years for the US Department of Defense as the Deputy Assistant Secretary, Security & Information Operations as well as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Minority Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. His responsibilities included review and oversight of intelligence activities, which included Area 51and other sensitive governmental locations. He also spent over a decade on the Senate Intelligence Committee, involved in oversight of NRO, CIA, NSA and other intelligence organizations. He became the first Congressional official to review all of the NSA’s compartmented programs. Chris is the recipient of numerous awards, including the National Reconnaissance Office Gold Medal and the Defense Intelligence Agency Director’s Medal. Chris has had a lifetime fascination with UFOs, and has recently became a Board Member of UFODATA, UFO Detection & Tracking as he believe the topic needs serious scientific investigation and is putting his efforts forward.
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After Project Blue Book was deactivated in 1969, civilians were left with no official government body prepared to deal with UFO reports. This is still the case (the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office only takes reports from military personnel) and this has left local agencies, such as the police, as the organizations that people often turn to, and each one handles reports in its own way. It recently came as a surprise to Pennsylvania state representatives during a budget meeting when it was mentioned that UFO reports were received by the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency. Records recently acquired from PEMA provide an inside look into how they were handled by organizations in that state. Read more →
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Guests, Dave Rich and Marianne Robb, focus on the stigmas that prevent law enforcement officers from sharing their experiences. They delve into the UFO stigma specifically, advocating for transparency and understanding. Dave and Marianne share detailed accounts of officers who bravely came forward with their stories, shedding light on the repercussions they faced. Dave had his own personal experience with the damage stigma caused while he was investigating a paranormal situation that he was investigating. Tune in to hear other compelling cases and learn how we can work towards overcoming these stigmas together by reaching other officers who may have had experiences.
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Guest Tom Curren explores the fascinating realm of UFOs and UAPs, examining different facets of science, firsthand experiences, and beyond. His website, "What's up with UFOs?", is divided into four key categories highlighted in these: video clips of: flying objects, hard science, direct experience, and institutional dynamics. Tom goes into a survey he conducted on the UFO topic with surprising results.
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Join Martin as he interviews former CIA agent Andy Bustamante and investigative journalist Paul Beban as they discuss uncovering unusual and often disturbing phenomena in new high-strangeness locations beyond Skinwalker Ranch. With a team of respected professionals and veterans from The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, their research and shocking discoveries will leave you speechless! Don’t miss the return of The HISTORY Channel’s “Beyond Skinwalker Ranch” for Season Two, premiering June 4 at 10/9c. BIO: Andrew Bustamante is a former covert CIA intelligence officer, decorated wartime military veteran, US Air Force Academy graduate, and successful Fortune 10 corporate advisor. After 15 years in service to his Nation, Andrew skyrocketed through corporate America specializing in human and technical operations. With more than 20 years of experience in both private and public sectors, Andrew has become a highly demanded international private intelligence consultant and the founder of EverydaySpy.com. When he isn’t supporting intelligence operations abroad, Andrew lives with his wife (a fellow ex-CIA Officer) and two children in southern Florida.BIO: Paul Beban is an award-winning broadcast journalist, host, writer, podcaster and producer known for his immersive, empathetic and investigative storytelling. He’s reported from more than two dozen countries on a broad range of feature, human interest and investigative subjects: the search for a Coast Guard plane lost in Greenland during World War II, the hunt for pirates off the coast of Somalia, what life is like for people who make their homes in a massive dump in Manila, and the desperation driving violent political protests in Venezuela, among others. Paul’s undercover investigation into human trafficking in South Africa was recognized with an Emmy, as was his report on the rising economic power of India’s growing middle class. He was a member of ABC News’ Peabody and Columbia DuPont Award-winning 9/11 coverage team. His work has appeared on ABC News, Al Jazeera, PBS, CBS News, Yahoo! News, The Discovery Network, and other outlets. He lives in New York.
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In our blog headlined “UFOs Over Scottsdale,” posted on April 15, 2024, we looked at a report of a blue, worm-like UFO captured on video over Scottsdale, Arizona. The main sources were two tabloid news agencies, Daily Mail and The US Sun, and their source was video footage posted on Instagram and Twitter/X. The reporters of both agencies failed to provide a date for the incident, properly represent witnesses, or make mention of the fact that Scottsdale is home to a UFO museum/attraction called “The UFO Experience.” We came across another intriguing case this week covered in the Mail and the Sun (U.K. edition), and this time, the reporting is much more thorough and reveals a long-standing belief by locals that there is an underwater alien base in the area. Read more →
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The February-March 1977 issue of the UFO Newsclipping Service, has four articles describing what would become “classic” UFO cases. One looks into the report (page 12 of the pdf) of nine-year-old Jose Cantu who said he saw “two greenish creatures about three feet tall, who rotated on a base instead of having feet, and two ‘steely’ crafts in which 2 other creatures were sitting.” His drawing showing one of the creatures with only one eye has caused them to be dubbed “The Cycloptic Aliens of Harrah.” The other three articles describe two abduction cases that have become well-known, one involving Judy Kendall covered in two papers from California, and one involving three women: Elaine Thomas, Louise Smith, and Mona Stafford covered in a paper from their home state, Kentucky. By this time, abduction claims and creature reports had come out from under the umbrella of contactee reports and the stigma that came with this association thanks to cases such as the 1973 Pascagoula Incident and the 1975 Travis Walton Incident, and news agencies were more open to reporting on them. That being said, there is an obscure case reported (page 3) in the February 2, 1977, Clarkesville, Tennessee, Leaf Chronicle, that has aspects of a contactee case, and the story told by the man who said he had an encounter with otherworldly beings is strange to the point of being ridiculous. Even so, the reporter who covered it wrote about it with a good deal of objectivity and restraint.Read more →
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Join us as we welcome special guest Nomar Slevik to discuss his Tenth Anniversary UFOs Over Maine book, some incredible UFO encounters in the State of Maine, including ones from the town where Martin Willis grew up. Nomar will share many fascinating stories from across the state, including the iconic Allagash Abductions of 1976, as well as some of his own personal experiences.
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This week, we were intrigued by a recent video of a UFO over Scottsdale, Arizona, that received some news coverage. As we looked into it, we were struck by the contrast between the coverage of UFO reports in the days where print journalism was dominant and the present.There is an article headlined “OUT OF THE BLUE Chilling moment pulsating blue cigar-shaped UFO is filmed hovering over ‘alien-hotspot’ US city leaving locals baffled” written by Dinniah Bartholomew that was posted on the website of the U.K. Sun on April 3, 2024. It includes video of a worm-like UFO glowing blue in the night sky. According to the article, the blue UFO “appeared to come out of nowhere” and hover over the city of Scottsdale, Arizona. Batholomew says photos were captured of the object, that it “appeared to make twists and turns,” that eyewitnesses gawked, and that “many people were concerned about exactly what it could be.” Quotes from witnesses are included such as a person commenting “Now it’s like separating. Dude that’s crazy.” Read more →
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Join us for an exciting update on the September 1, 1969 Berkshires UFO Incident with Melanie Kirchdorfer. In studio, we have retired VT State Law Enforcement officer, Mike Sisino, who witnessed the craft on that very day. Plus, writer and researcher Samantha Graves-Brownell shares fascinating insights from her deep dive into UFO encounters in the area, including interviews with witnesses from 1967-1969 and beyond. Don’t miss this intriguing exploration of one of the most compelling UFO events in history! Witness Tom Warner calls in.
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UFOs are often reported to have left behind evidence of their visits in the form of physical traces, but there are also reports of them taking something away and often it is water from tanks, pools, rivers, lakes, and oceans. There are enough of these sorts of reports that Linda Zimmermann and Michael Worden were able to devote an entire episode (“From the Vault: Everybody in the Pool”) of UFO Headquarters to the subject. Zimmermann began the episode with stories told to her by witnesses in the Hudson Valley of instances where water was missing from pools after UFO sightings in the area and estimated that there were at least five such occurrences in the region from 1975 into the early 1980s. Far from being isolated to the Hudson Valley, such reports come from all over the world and Zimmermann and Worden present several. In this week’s blog, we’ll look at some we’ve come across in our research. Read more →
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This week on UAP-Crossfire (May 16th) we will take a look at and discuss the career of Dr. Bruce Maccabee. Maccabee, a retired Naval Optical Physicist was one of the only government employee’s who openly researched and investigated the UFO subject and was never sanctioned by the government.
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Charles Lear Returns with Insights from Years of Research! Join us as our longtime blogger/researcher delves into his latest book, 'Crashed Saucers and Malevolent Aliens: The Emergence of the Popular Modern UFO Mythos in the Late 20th Century. Get exclusive insights from his weekly UFO blogs and discover the secrets he's uncovered along the way!
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There is an article headlined “The Taradale Car Crash” in the March-April 1969 Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 15, No. 7. It is described as an “adapted version” of an article written by Henk Hinfelaar and Claude Elmes of New Zealand Scientific Space Research that appeared in that organization’s newsletter Spaceview. It concerns a car accident in Taradale, New Zealand, a suburb of the Northeastern city of Napier, involving two young men who reported that a UFO was the cause. According to Hinfelaar and Elmes, not only did the young men report this to police, but the owner/driver of the car gave the same story to his insurance company, and it was used as a defense by him in a court of law.
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Former Marine guests, Jonathan Weygandt & Michael Herrera both observed unknown objects. Jonathan a crashed egg shaped craft in 1997 while in Peru and involved in Operation Laser Strike, and Michael an unusual hovering operative craft in 2009 while in Indonesia providing overwatch and logistical support after an earthquake. In both incidents, soldiers with no insignia dressed in black camouflage showed up and aggressively intervened, controlling the situation. Tune in to explore the uncanny parallels and unique details of their encounters.
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Up first, Capt. Ron, talks Contact in the Desert, astronomer Marc D'Antonio is joining UAP Crossfire as a special guest to delve into discussions about SkyTour LiveStream, alongside explorations into the fascinating intersection between astronomers and UFO encounters. Martin Willis hosting with co-hosts, Don Ecker and Chris Deperno.
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Just this week, video of a UFO taken by a passenger on a plane coming in for a landing at LaGuardia Airport in Queens, New York, made international news. Video footage of UFOs constantly appears online and more often than not leads to a dead end for researchers trying to identify witnesses or turns out to be faked. In this case, not only was the witness identified, but she appeared on News Nation for an interview, along with a researcher looking into the case who considered the video to be authentic.The witness is Michelle Reyes, who was capturing video of the New York skyline while sitting next to her daughter, who had the window seat. The Verrazano Bridge is centered in the frame as a black, elongated, oval-shaped UFO goes whizzing by from right to left, which in this case is northeast to southwest. Reyes posted the video on Facebook, and researcher/investigator Ben Hansen (who was a guest on PodcastUFO on February 16, 2021) managed to find her and interview her. Read more →
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Join us as we welcome back the Pentyrch UFO Incident’s primary witness, Caz Clarke to the show. Get ready for groundbreaking revelations and irrefutable evidence unveiling the truth behind The Pentyrch UFO Incident of February 26, 2016. Caz returns with new insights, shedding light on the reality of the event and exposing the cover-up that has kept the world in the dark for too long.
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A pioneer saucerologist/UFOlogist, Ted Bloecher, who mostly went uncelebrated except among his peers and a small number of enthusiasts, passed away on January 22 of this year at the age of 94. He was not known because of book sales, lectures, appearances on television or in documentaries, but for his research with and contributions to various organizations beginning in 1954 with Civilian Saucer Intelligence New York of which he was a founding member. He was mostly interested in cases involving humanoids, and his association with the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena seems to have helped Director Donald Keyhoe, who had an aversion to humanoid cases due to his hardened stance against contactee reports, become more open-minded. Besides this, he was a Broadway performer, and his credits include ensemble work in Oliver! and Hello, Dolly! He quit active research in the mid-1980s and donated his UFO files to the Center for UFO Studies and archives to the New York Public Library.
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In this week’s UAP Crossfire, we are hosted by Martin Willis, and cohosts Chris DePerno, and Commander Cobra are joined by Bob Spearing to discuss Bob's role investigating UFOs with MUFON, and he also discusses the types of craft that have been reported. THIS SHOW WAS DEDICATED TO PAUL ENO 1953-2024.
Bob has long been involved with MUFON’s various special projects including the MARRS historical reports archiving project, the Pine Bush, N.Y. UFO Museum, and the MUFON Observer Network.
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In this week’s UAP Crossfire, we are hosted by Martin Willis, and cohosts Chris DePerno, and Commander Cobra are joined by Bob Spearing to discuss Bob’s role investigating UFOs with MUFON, and he also discusses the types of craft that have been reported. THIS SHOW WAS DEDICATED TO PAUL ENO 1953-2024.
Bob has long been involved with MUFON’s various special projects including the MARRS historical reports archiving project, the Pine Bush, N.Y. UFO Museum, and the MUFON Observer Network.
Paul Eno 1953-2024
Join us for an intriguing discussion with Ron Janix, the new co-owner of Contact in the Desert, as he delves into his perspectives on the latest developments on UFO disclosure in the United States, as well as revealing what attendees to CITD ’24 can look forward to during the Conference’s 10-year Anniversary Presentation. With his extensive background and longtime involvement in the UFO and paranormal realm, Ron brings a wealth of insights to the table. Tune in as we explore where his journey has led him and what the future may hold for disclosure.
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Tune in for an exclusive special featuring Brandon Fugal, right before the highly anticipated Season 5 premiere of HISTORY CHANNEL’s The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, airing on April 23 at 10/9c. Join us for an intriguing conversation with Skinwalker Ranch owner, Brandon Fugal, as he shares insights and previews what’s in store for this exciting new season. Brandon also discusses a UFO encounter at the ranch that changed him from being a skeptic to someone that knows there is something really happening.
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Join us as Kevin Day opens up about a 1988 profound wartime tragedy (Iran Air Flight 655) that has left a lasting impact on him. He delves into his experiences aboard the USS Princeton, recounting the events surrounding the infamous Tic Tac UFO incident near Catalina Island in 2004. Kevin sheds light on both personal and historical dimensions of this extraordinary event. This interview was recorded at Ozark Mountain UFO Conference on April 13, 2024.
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Join us for a captivating discussion with Nick Pope as we delve into the intriguing mysteries surrounding UFOs. From contemplating the potential darker aspects of visitors to exploring profound philosophical concepts on the evolution of intelligent life, we unravel the enigmatic reasons behind their fascination with our Pale Blue Dot. This is a very thought-provoking conversation. This interview was recorded at Ozark Mountain UFO Conference on April 13, 2024.
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Today, we’re joined by special guest Robert Powell, who’s here to dive into his newly published book: “UFOs: A Scientist Explains What We Know (And Don’t Know).” Not only will he shed light on the extraterrestrial hypothesis, but he’ll also unravel some fascinating UFO incidents such as the infamous Tic Tac encounter, the Stephenville Incident, and a captivating encounter involving a dumbbell-shaped UFO by a DoD agent. Tune in for an intriguing discussion!
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Our guest, former US Navy with 28 years of service, Christopher Loric, has penned a fascinating book centered on the thought-provoking concept: “There is someone out there, trying to reach us.” Loric doesn’t shy away from addressing questions like “How did they develop a hyperspace drive?” or “What resources enable them to dispatch a fleet across the cosmos?” We also talk about his opinion on how the US Navy and other branches are approaching the UFO/UAP topic.
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Tune in as we sit down for a discussion with speaker Marc D’Antonio and MC Forest Crawford about the Ozark Mountain UFO Conference. Plus, we’ll touch on a few other interesting topics along the way, Marc speaks on possible UFO propulsion and Forest discusses his childhood UFO encounter as well as an amazing case he has worked on! Martin & Producer, Donna Killeen will be attending the conference and would like to meet you if you are a listener of the show and attending. Send an email to martin @podcastufo.com
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Guest, Emily Louise delves into the lesser-known realms of ufology, shining a light on the fringe aspects often obscured by disinformation spread by nefarious actors. Join us as we explore how these myths transform into enduring lore, shaping our understanding of the extraterrestrial unknown.
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Join us as we delve into the captivating world of the recently released documentary, “Transmedium Fastmovers & USOs: Exploring the Depths of the Unknown,” with special guests Darcy Weir and Andy Marcial. For years, eyewitnesses have reported sightings of unidentified craft effortlessly traversing both air and water, challenging the boundaries of our understanding of modern physics. Andy sheds light on recently leaked Department of Homeland Security footage featured in the film, adding an extra layer of mystery to our discussion.
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In our 600th episode, we have a special guest, author G. O. (Gary) Turner, who has dedicated numerous years to delving into the intriguing realm of UFOs and their methods of travel. With his expertise, he’s formulated some captivating theories on the propulsion systems behind UAPs/UFOs. Stay tuned as we dive into his fascinating insights!
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
The FAA has been historically close-mouthed when it comes to pilot UFO sightings and pilots often avoid filing official reports, as they can be damaging to one’s career. However, with the availability of live air traffic control feeds such as liveatc.net, listeners have occasionally come upon pilots talking about a sighting in real time. This recently happened to the operator of the YouTube site, Flight Simulator Fantasy, who posted a short containing the audio in mid-February. Given the nature of the site, the audio is most likely genuine.
The posting on F.S.F. received limited news coverage. There is an article by Tom McGhie posted February 28, 2024, on the website of The Daily Star headlined “American Airlines Pilot’s Chilling UFO Radio Call as Mystery Craft “Went 180” in Seconds.” The article contains information from the F.S.F. site, including transcripts of key moments where the pilots describe what they’re seeing. According to McGhie, the news outlet reached out to Harrisburg Airport, the flight’s destination, for comment.
The best information comes from the posting. While YouTube postings are always suspect, this site is devoted to flight simulation and in the instance of the posting, the operator was using Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 with a live ATC feed. In a small window showing an A.A. American Eagle (an Embraer ERJ-145) over an image of the area with a flight tracking graphic, there is the date, February 12, 2024, over the departure and destination locations of Boston and Harrisburg. The flight tracker shows the flight number as AA5795 and a check using FlightAware showed that the flight departed the gate at Boston’s Logan International Airport at 6:30 p.m. and arrived at Harrisburg International Airport at 8:16 p.m. The plane is identified as an Embraer ERJ-145.
The of description the sighting is extraordinary. The pilot, in a British accent, says “Well, you’re going to think I’m crazy – There’s something that just went from right to left to right again in a blink and then flashed his lights three or four times and vanished.” The air traffic controller responds, saying he had an aircraft cross from right to left, which he identifies as E175, and says another one, 777 “high off the right side, that’s descended to 28. That might be those two aircraft. I’m not sure.” The pilot says “Uh, this thing went 180 degrees in like, a second.” The air traffic controller says “Oh, goodness. All right. Let me know if you see it again. We’ll make a report.”
According to the Star, a second pilot from the same plane adds more details, but this writer believes it’s the same pilot speaking in a higher pitch because he’s excited. He says, “Well, the detail, it literally went from one coast to the other in front of us and then, it went up like 30 degrees, turned off its lights, or whatever it had. It looked like it was a bright orangey thing and then, since we spoke to you last, it’s flashed us like, three or four times. We are still looking at it now.”
A different traffic controller comes on and asks “So, where is it roughly if I was to give you a traffic call?” The pilot says “I would say probably 80 – 60 – 80 miles in front of us. And it looks like it’s coming – I dunno – it’s flashing towards us. But, it is definitely not an airplane. It doesn’t have the strobe lights or anything like – it’s just this bright orange going on and off. Yep, this definitely wasn’t an airplane.”
There is another instance on the F.S.F. site of a pilot UFO sighting recorded on February 28, 2024. The posting is titled, “Flying Too Fast to be a Balloon Pilot Spots UFO While Flying in New Jersey.” The is a picture of a small private plane over an image of the area. The pilot asks the controller if he has anything on his scope and says something “flew right beside us about a minute ago, probably about 200 feet away.” The controller responds and addresses the pilot as “November 2, 5, Fox, R, Golf, Negative” and says the closest traffic he’s seeing is 7 miles away at 1 o’clock “opposite direction at 4000 feet.” The pilot describes the object as shiny and chrome and says it flew right by them. The controller says, “Okay, so, possibly a UAS?” and the pilot responds saying “What I would consider it, yes.”
The controller asks if the pilot was able to get a good look at it and asks if it “was like a quadcopter or some sort of like, a, uh, like an aircraft looking UAS?” The pilot says he saw no wings or rotors and that it was “shiny, round, and chrome.” The controller suggests it was a balloon and the pilot immediately says “It was flying too fast to be a balloon.”
The controller asks for a size estimate for the “UAS or, uh, UAP” and the pilot says “We were just discussing that. I was thinking like, probably around the size of like, a bathtub for 205 Foxtrot Golf.” The controller asks, “You said a bathtub?” and the pilot says “Correct.”
So, while the media coverage of the first report was somewhat cursory, and the second report was neglected altogether, at least we’ve been alerted to a potential source for future reports.
Guest, Jann Halexander delves into the intriguing topic of UFOs in French-speaking Africa. Join us as, the talented singer-songwriter from Libreville, Gabon, takes us on a journey through the perspectives of Gabonese and Congolese citizens regarding UFOs and extraterrestrials. Through insightful interviews, Jann uncovered their thoughts, experiences, and beliefs surrounding these mysterious phenomena.
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Join Jim Lough as he draws upon his expertise in constitutional law, government procedures, legislative drafting, and his role as an educator at San Diego State University School of Public Affairs to delve into the intriguing topic of addressing UFO phenomena. With a personal interest fueled by close encounters witnessed throughout his lifetime, Jim provides unique insights into this enigma. Tune in for a captivating exploration.
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Guests, Craig Weiler and Rob Heatherly are both experts on the Guerrilla Skeptics of Wikipedia. Craig first exposed them in 2013 in his book PSI WARS: TED, Wikipedia and the Battle for the Internet, and Rob recently did a deep dive into Wikipedia to unearth their darkest secrets. Collectively, they depict a clandestine entity exercising influence over segments of Wikipedia for more than ten years. Guerrilla Skeptics manipulate articles spanning diverse subjects, such as parapsychology and UAPs, to fit their skeptical narrative, while tarnishing the reputations of prominent figures whom they deem as promoters of pseudoscience.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
This is the last in a three-part series of blogs looking at a case from 2023 that involved Ikitu tribe members in the village of San Antonio de Pintuyacu in Peru who reported nighttime attacks by 7-feet-tall aliens with elongated heads wearing black body armor and masks that had yellow or green eye lenses. They were said to stand on some sort of circular device like Green Goblin from the Spiderman movie that enabled them to fly and hover. Some villagers attributed the attacks to creatures from local folklore called Los Pelacaras (The Face-Peelers) said to feed on human faces and organs. Adding credence to this belief, a 15-year-old girl, identified as Talia, suffered an attack that resulted in her being taken to a hospital with lacerations on her neck. Witnesses reported that, as they came to her rescue, they saw the attackers flying away. Police came to investigate, and a spokesman for the Peruvian National Prosecutor’s office, Carlos Castro Quintanilla, came to the conclusion that illegal gold miners using jetpacks to explore deep into the jungle were responsible. This caused the story to die down in the news, but Timothy Alberino, a documentary film maker and paranormal enthusiast based in Bozeman, Montana, who had spent a good deal of time as a young man living in the jungles of Peru, returned to investigate the story first-hand and shared his findings on his YouTube site and on podcasts. While the descriptions of the creatures and the encounters were quite strange, there is a history of these sorts of reports linked to outsiders seeking to exploit natural resources in areas occupied by indigenous people, often with little concern for their rights.
Stories like the ones that came out of San Antonio have come from indigenous people living in the Amazon River region since the 1500s, and an article published in 2011 in Vol. 16, No. 1 pp 143-167 of The Journal of Latin American and Caribbean Anthropology looks at the history of such stories and the cultural pressures that gave rise to them. The article is titled “Bundles, Stampers, and Flying Gringos: Native Perceptions of Capitalist Violence in Peruvian Amazonia” and was written by Fernando Santos Granero and Frederica Barclay. The Abstract is as follows:
This article examines a set of stories told among the Awajun, Wampis, and Ashaninka of eastern Peru, which feature a diversity of white supernatural beings that wander about their communities to steal their vital force, or introduce harmful substances into their bodies. These stories constitute a response to the capitalist violence experienced at present by these peoples as a result of hardline government policies promoting private investment, and the frenzied activities of extractive corporations eager to profit from the region’s natural resources. Such stories are informed by indigenous notions about personhood and illness, but also by native eco-cosmologies that view life as a scarce resource – the object of intense interspecific competition. What distinguishes this from past junctures of predation by white people is that on this occasion native Amazonians feel that the government and its allies have set out to exterminate them once and for all.
The article begins with a description of the June 5, 2000 “Bagua Massacre” after the Peruvian government ordered the removal of Awajun and Wampis protesters who were blocking a road near the town of Bagua. The ensuing confrontation resulted in the deaths of 33 people, including 9 policemen out of 38 who were taken as hostages. The episode is described as “a critical point in the struggle of native Amazonian peoples against multiple aggressions by the government of President Alan García (2006–11).”
The authors argue that the fears of Awajun, Wampis, and Ashaninka “are expressed in the appearance of a number of stories about the activities of several supernatural beings with white physiognomies, who wander about native communities equipped with strange contraptions that make them invulnerable and allow them to spy on and attack (more or less covertly) its members.”
The authors put the stories in the context of the cosmology shared by the three groups. According to them, the people in the region believe that all living creatures began as human and lived in harmony until, due to the fallibility of the creator gods or the humans, some humans were transformed into the various living extant forms and that all have retained a human-shaped soul. Along with this, they believe that the life force is scarce and that all living things live in fierce competition to acquire it. All things being human in origin, hunters show a respect for their prey that “results in an ethic of self-regulation that ensures a balance among the species despite the practice of generalized predation.” According to the authors, the stories about supernatural white beings that mark bodies (stampers), introduce foreign substances, and extract “vital substances” from their victims, stem from this belief system.
The authors bring up stories about “pishtacos” (throat cutters) and “pelecaras” that circulated in the 1980s during a period of “aggressive colonization, deforestation, and road-building projects promoted by Presidents Fernando Belaunde (1980–85) and Alan García (1985–90). According to the authors, pishtaco stories were chronicled as far back as 1571 by Cristóbal de Molina.
Under the heading “Indigenous Perceptions of Capitalist Violence,” some of the stories of seemingly supernatural beings coming into villages to commit acts of violence are examined. They present this email “sent on January 6, 2009, by Edinson Espíritu, an Ashaninka from the Perene River to the members of the AMA Bilingual Intercultural Network, a non-profit organization devoted to improving the quality of life of Andean–Amazonian communities:”
Dear friends, brothers, colleagues, comrades, allies and public in general. Yesterday, an Ashaninka sister declared to us that in the Ashaninka territory–selva central, people (gringos) have appeared dressed in trousers, shirts, shoes, helmets and iron wings; the wings help them travel from one place to another; we believe they operate with some sort of fuel; no bullets can enter their clothing; they kill boys and girls without pity to extract only their eyes and hearts; up until now there have already disappeared several Ashaninka boys and girls; for this reason we alert all men and women who are not yet aware of this to remain vigilant. People, in particular Ashaninka who live in dispersed areas distant from towns, please organize and you know what to do.
The authors present a report from the January 31, 2009, La Voz Municipal, a monthly bulletin in Awajun–Wampis territory:
… we were informed of spine-chilling events such as the presence of gringos that appeared; seven community members told us how these beings were; they said that a being descended from space inside a glass sphere and that it reflected multicolored lights; they had made several shots from a distance of 3 meters, but the pellets would not penetrate the bundle; we stayed one night to capture the image of the supposed gringo; we wandered about almost all night long but with no results. We urge people to remain alert in the face of this situation and inform local authorities immediately. Whether this be true or not, we must remain alert. (Boletín 2009)
These stories are obviously quite similar to the stories that came out of San Antonio in 2023, and whatever their true source, illegal gold miners with jetpacks seems a most unlikely explanation given the long history of these sorts of reports. At least, in the case of the 2023 reports, the Peruvian government was on the side of the San Antonio villagers.
In this episode, we have journalist Garrett Graff joining us to talk about his latest book, “UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government’s Search for Alien Life Here—and Out There.” Garrett’s interest in this subject was piqued when former CIA director John Brennan publicly acknowledged his belief in the reality of UFOs. With a blend of open-mindedness and healthy skepticism, Garrett delves into this intriguing topic, exploring the government’s quest for answers about alien life both on Earth and beyond.
BIO: Garrett M. Graff, a distinguished journalist and internationally bestselling historian, has spent nearly two decades covering politics, technology, and national security—helping to explain where we’ve been and where we’re headed. The former editor of Washingtonian and POLITICO Magazine and a contributing editor to WIRED Magazine, Graff is the author of multiple books, including the #1 national bestseller The Only Plane in the Sky: An Oral History of 9/11, as well as The Threat Matrix: Inside Robert Mueller’s FBI, and Raven Rock, about the government’s Cold War Doomsday plans. His book Watergate: A New History was a finalist in 2023 for the Pulitzer Prize in History, and his most recent book is UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government’s Search for Alien Life Here—and Out There.
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
TIMOTHY ALBERINOIn Last week’s blog, we looked at a case from 2023 that involved Ikitu tribe members in the village of San Antonio de Pintuyacu in Peru who reported nighttime attacks by 7-feet-tall aliens with elongated heads wearing black body armor and masks that had yellow or green eye lenses. They were said to stand of some sort of circular device like Green Goblin from the Spiderman movie that enabled them to fly and hover. Some villagers attributed the attacks to creatures from local folklore called Los Pelacaras (The Face-Peelers) said to feed on human faces and organs. Adding credence to this belief, a 15-year-old girl, identified as Talia, suffered an attack that resulted in her being taken to a hospital with lacerations on her neck. Witnesses reported that, as they came to her rescue, they saw the attackers flying away. Police came to investigate, and a spokesman for the Peruvian National Prosecutor’s office, Carlos Castro Quintanilla, came to the conclusion that illegal gold miners using jetpacks to explore deep into the jungle were responsible. This caused the story to die down in the news, but Timothy Alberino, a documentary film maker and paranormal enthusiast based in Bozeman, Montana, who had spent a good deal of time as a young man living in the jungles of Peru, returned to investigate the story first-hand and shared his findings on his YouTube site and on podcasts. While the descriptions of the creatures and the encounters were quite strange, there is a history of these sorts of reports linked to outsiders seeking to exploit natural resources in areas occupied by indigenous people, often with little concern for their rights.
Alberino explains in his report that he “wasn’t buying” the jetpack explanation, and after receiving requests from his followers to do so, he organized an expedition to go to the village and conduct a “competent investigation.” He enlisted the aid of a friend, Doug Thornton, who was “a former infantry marine and DHS Special Response Team Operator” and contacted Brazilian UFOlogist Rony Vernet, who put him in touch with one of the villagers, a school teacher Alberino identifies as Christian, whose last name is identified in the Daily Mail as Pacaya.
According to Alberino, at Pacaya’s request, he recorded a message in Spanish that Pacaya delivered to the village elders. The elders met and then replied with an official invitation to come and investigate. Alberino says Pacaya briefed him on the situation in the village at that time, which he describes as “pretty dire,” as the villagers “were still living in a heightened state of vigilance” and not going into the jungle to hunt and harvest crops. Because of this, they “were running low on critical supplies.” He was told they were still conducting nightly patrols and “still encountering the phenomenon,” though to a lesser degree.
Thornton and AlberinoAlberino explains that he decided his mission would be not only to investigate, but to bring provisions that would include food and medical supplies, as well as “strategic technology to support their patrols.” Alberino describes the equipment for the patrols as including radios, thermal binoculars, and night-vision goggles with the capability to record. He then thanks Pastor Darren Tyler and others from the Conduit Church in Franklin, Tennessee, who helped to provide funding for the expedition.
Along with footage of the expedition, Alberino describes arriving in Iquitos and chartering a riverboat. Along with Thornton he also had two “active-duty Navy operators” with him on the boat as well as some men from the village, including the chief, or “Apu.”
According to Alberino, they travelled for two days up the Nanay River and the Pintuyacu tributary and arrived at the village. He describes being met by “a small army of men carrying shotguns.” He greeted them from the boat, and then, he and the group went ashore with the provisions.
They were led to a government communication outpost building the villagers called “The Tombo” where they were formally greeted. They then went outside where they were treated to a native dance and given masato to drink, which is an alcoholic beverage made from yucca leaves by the women of the tribe who chew them and then allow them to ferment in their saliva. According to Alberino, “most gringos do not drink it, but those who do are received with special affection.”
After the formalities, Alberino and his group began their investigation. They visited the locations of the encounters and interviewed witnesses. He describes there being a “palpable” anxiety in the village and points out that the villagers had cut down a “huge swath” of growth to create a buffer zone between the village and the jungle, and this is shown on video. This also provided them land to plant crops so they didn’t need to venture into the jungle.
Alberino describes being surprised by the number of different villagers who “had actually encountered the so-called pelecaras,” and by the consistency of the stories. The description he gives of the assailants is similar to the ones that were in the news with the additional details that they wore small, hard-shell back packs, footwear that had two discs on the soles of each shoe that emitted a red light, and that they were extremely agile and had the ability to leap over a house in one bound.
According to Alberino, the assailants were described as surfing through the air on three-feet-diameter platforms that moved silently (except when lifting off, when they would make a sound like compressed air being released) and could move at great speed. They were said to fly to the edge of the village on the platforms, dismount, and then walk or float into the village. They were said to get back on them and fly away when they were chased out. Alberino also describes platforms that were ten feet in diameter that could hold two people. He emphasizes that whenever the assailants appeared, there were always two of them.
According to Alberino, the assailants were “also equipped with advanced aerospace technology – what we call UFOs.” They were consistently described as acorn-shaped, about as big as a private jet, with small round protrusions instead of wings that would fold out and reveal lights. These were reported to have been seen hovering over the village at altitudes as low as 30-40 feet. At one point a craft appeared to be transparent and beings could be seen sitting inside. The UFOs were said to be silent except when they accelerated, at which time they would emit a low hum.
Alberino says he and the others stayed in the village for two nights and three days, and on their last night, met with village men to teach them how to use the equipment that had been brought for them and how to hold their guns while on patrol so they didn’t shoot each other. They also put the men through maneuvers to help them “organize themselves into a now-efficient fighting force.” He describes leaving them better prepared to defend themselves and able “to capture the phenomenon on camera.”
Thornton joins Alberino and they discuss approaching Talia with the intent of interviewing her. They describe her as trembling, crying, and hiding her face upon first seeing them. Thornton describes her as displaying symptoms of PTSD and says she had been diagnosed with this by “a doctor down the river.”
They managed to interview Talia at her house the next day and Thornton describes her actually going into convulsions beforehand and that she seemed to be scared of them specifically, them being gringos. Alberino adds that half the people he talked to believed the assailants were gringos and the other half believed they were aliens (he adds later that this opinion would vacillate between the two). After Talia stood trembling in silence for about two minutes after the first question, she opened up and told the same story she told the 5-Meo team.
Alberino and Thornton discuss Talia’s attack and speculate on who or what the attackers might have been. They firmly agree that they weren’t miners with jetpacks.
Next week: flying gringos in earlier Peruvian history.
Renowned guest, Mark Marinaccio, who assumed the roles of Executive Producer and Showrunner for Season 3 of Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, delved deep into the Ranch’s mysteries for a four-month stint. With more than twenty years of expertise in producing paranormal and unexplained television content, Marinaccio’s extensive background and fervor for the subject have significantly influenced his distinct perspective on the phenomena.
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Come along for an entertaining exploration with special guests, comedian/actor, Dave Foley and accomplished showrunner, screenwriter, and novelist, Tom Wheeler as they dive into the fascinating world of UFOs and what they have learned on their show “Really?!”. Join the conversation as they share their enduring fascination with the subject and discuss the intriguing insights they’ve gained throughout their journey.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
2023 was quite a year for aliens in the news which included reports of creatures in a backyard in Las Vegas, alleged alien mummies being presented to the Mexican Congress, and an alien invasion of a shopping mall in Florida. In between, there were reports from a remote village in Peru of harrowing encounters with aliens that moved on hover boards. The story was first reported in Spanish by Radio Programas del Perú and quickly gained international coverage. The Daily Mail covered it with the same amount of detail as RPP for English speaking readers and published a follow-up article long after the story had seemingly been laid to rest by a somewhat implausible explanation by a spokesperson for the Peruvian National Prosecutor’s Office. A private paranormal investigator, Timothy Alberino, took it upon himself to look into the reports and found that they were widespread throughout the region. While the descriptions of the creatures and the encounters were quite strange and raised a lot of eyebrows, there is a history of these sorts of reports linked to outsiders seeking to exploit natural resources in areas occupied by indigenous people, often with little concern for their rights.
On August 8, 2023, the article headlined “Terrified Peruvian villagers claim they are under attack from 7ft-tall ‘aliens’ dubbed ‘Face Peelers’ as they plead with authorities to send backup” by Chris Jewers was posted on the Daily Mail website. According to Jewers, the villagers were members of the Ikitu tribe living in a remote village northeast of Lima, Peru, in the district of Alto Nanay, and reported they had been subjected to repeated nighttime attacks since July 11. They described their attackers as having large heads, yellow eyes, being impervious to weapons, and having the ability to hover and fly. Some villagers are said to have compared the attackers to creatures from folklore known as “pelacaras” (face peelers) that, according to the stories, eat human faces and organs. Community leader Jairo Reátegui Dávila described them this way:
They appear to be armored. I shot one of them twice and he wasn’t injured, he rose and disappeared. Their shoes are round-shaped, which they use to float… Their heads are long, they wear a mask and their eyes are yellowish. They are experts at escaping.
A 15-year-old girl is reported to have been taken to a hospital with injuries to her neck that she sustained during an attack, and police are said to have toured the village, including the area where the girl was attacked, but it was unknown whether they found anything to corroborate the reports.
A follow-up article by Matthew Phelan headlined “Flying 7ft-tall ‘alien’ attackers in Peru were actually illegal gold mining gang on JETPACKS” was posted on the Daily Mail site on August 12, 2023. The conclusion announced by the headline came from Carlos Castro Quintanilla, the prosecutor investigating the case for the Peruvian National Prosecutor’s Office. According to Quintanilla, the miners might have first used the jetpacks as a means to explore deeper into the jungle. Phelan speculates that, based on this theory, “the gold cartels’ use of the jetpacks to stage their violent, otherworldly attacks would have been something of an afterthought.”
Much of the article is devoted to a description of the illegal gold mining prevalent in Peru since the 2008 financial crisis, which caused a sustained rise in the price of gold. According to Phelan, the Artisanal Gold Council (artisanal is another word for “illegal”) estimated that illegal mining accounted for one-fifth of the total world gold production. He describes water filled gold prospecting pits contaminated with mercury being so prevalent in Peru that they can be seen from space, and a picture taken from the International Space Station on Christmas Eve 2020 showing them glittering in the sunlight is included in the article.
According to Phelan, RPP reported that members of the Peruvian Navy “faced fire” while engaging with illegal miners and managed to destroy a good deal of their equipment but found no jetpacks.
Included in the article is a picture captioned “a local teen shows an image of the jetpacks she and others witnessed during the flying ‘alien attacks.’” The teen is actually the 15-year-old girl who was attacked, and the image is of French inventor Frank Zapata demonstrating his creation, the “Flyboard Air.” As for this possibly being a device used by the miners, the flight time is listed on the website promoting it as 10 minutes, making it impractical for any sort of sustained exploration. Another invention by Gravity Industries that they call the Jet Suit has a similar limitation which, according to an ad in Vices Magazine, is a flight time of 5-10 minutes.
Coverage of the story dropped off after Quintanilla’s explanation, but Phelan wrote one more article headlined “Girl, 15, in Peru who was ‘kidnapped by gang of 7ft tall aliens’ shares traumatic experience” posted on the Daily Mail site on December 16, 2023. The girl is identified as “Talia” and the article includes details of her attack as described to the paranormal documentary team 5-MeO Productions.
According to Talia, she went out to her back yard to get some tangerines to make herself a drink when she noticed dry leaves blowing around her. She turned to find the cause and saw “a very tall man” behind her whom she believed was a “gringo,” or white man, though she told the 5-MeO team that her attackers were wearing black body armor and masks with green eyes. She said that when she tried to run, he grabbed her, turned her around, and covered her mouth.
According to Talia, her second attacker first appeared as a light (it was nighttime) that lifted into the air, came towards her, and then landed in front of her. She said that this person grabbed both of her legs and started dragging her off. She said that as this was happening, both attackers were touching what seemed to be a button on the inside of their calves on what seemed to be a boot and that the circular platforms they were on would elevate when they did so.
According to Talia, she struggled, and this caused her attackers to drop her. The taller of the two pinned her to the ground and asked the other one for some cream. He then mixed the cream with some powder and used a syringe-like device to inject it into her nostrils and also smeared it on her face. According to Phelan, she told the 5-MeO team that she felt the cream was burning her. She said that one of the assailants took out “a little stick” with a retractable point and used it to cut her neck. She said, “It made a sound, but I couldn’t feel anything. I could hear it. My own skin made a sound.’
Talia described her escape this way:
When I tried to lift up the mask, that’s when he let go of me, so he could lower his mask. That’s when I began screaming. When everyone, my brothers, the neighbors, came to see me, that’s when my brother saw from my cousin’s garden how they flew away.
She said “The taller one spoke like a gringo. He didn’t speak well, he didn’t say the words correctly.” She described the other one as speaking fluently in a Peruvian dialect.
According to Phelan, the 5-MeO team posted pictures of Talia’s hospital records confirming her injuries, and they are included in the article.
Timothy AlberinoTimothy Alberino is a documentary film maker and paranormal enthusiast based in Bozeman, Montana. While news coverage of the story dropped off after Quintanilla’s explanation, Alberino, who had spent a good deal of time as a young man living in the jungles of Peru, returned to investigate the story first-hand.
Next week: Alberino’s investigation and earlier reports of strange attackers.
Join us as we delve into Congressman Tim Burchett’s enduring fascination with UFOs, exploring his perspective on transparency in the US Government’s approach to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP). Discover how his colleagues and the Pentagon perceive him for sparking conversations and stirring things up in this intriguing discussion. Dean Alioto joins Martin after the interview.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Jim And Coral LorenzenIn 1968, the Condon Committee was wrapping up the UFO study at the University of Colorado that was commissioned by the Air Force. Coming too late for inclusion in that study was an incident in Gleeson, Arizona, that involved reported landings and possible traces left behind. It was investigated by Jim and Coral Lorenzen of the Tucson, Arizona, based Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, and the witnesses filled out report forms for the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. There is no report in the APRO Bulletin on the case, or in NICAP’S publication, The UFO Investigator, but there is an article by Cecil James headlined “Gleeson UFO Leaves Traces” in the October 19, 1968, Tucson Daily Citizen.
James describes the main witness, Pearl Christiansen, as 71 years old, slender, with a kind smile and grey-blue eyes that “seemed to say ‘howdy stranger.’” According to him, she moved to Gleeson in 1922 to work as a teacher for the children of the 81 mining families that lived there and had seen many things: “floods, droughts, rattlesnakes, wildlife and meteorites – but never until this August a UFO.” He quotes her describing two objects she said she saw east of her ranch house on August 26, the first of which he describes as “a huge circular object” she saw sitting on the south side of Brown’s Peak at 7200 feet:
I had just lowered the chain gate on the road to my house when I saw it. I drove across the chain, sat in the car for five minutes and wondered what I should do. It looked as though there were a train of lights trailing from one side. Should I report it? No…I thought maybe it would disappear, so I drove on. But it remained. When I went through another gate, I saw a second object – very shiny and gold. It was also stationary and once in a while both would glow simultaneously.
James describes Christiansen at this point as sensing some doubt in her listeners and saying, “I don’t drink anything stronger than Orange Crush or 7-Up.” She went on to describe the second object as having a bright pink band and a red band around its perimeter. She said the red band turned wine-colored, then purple, then gold. She said that when she looked at the object through binoculars it was blurred and so bright that it hurt her eyes.
According to James, Christiansen got a blanket and a pillow and set herself up in a chair on her porch and watched the objects from 9:00 p.m. until just before midnight, which is when she said they disappeared. He asked her if they flew away and she said “No. They seemed to back into the valley behind the peak.”
James reports there was another witness, Mrs. Willard Mayfield, who ran the Gleeson museum with her husband, who said she saw a bright light on the peak the same night as Christiansen but thought it might have been a reflection in the glass of the door to her house and didn’t pay much attention to it. Even so, 48 hours later, she and Christiansen went up to the top of the peak in a pickup truck to take a look. Mayfield said that as they got to the top, they noticed a “queer acid-like” smell that “was nothing like our fuels smell – gasoline or diesel – or at least nothing like what we know of.” She also said that the rocks in the area were so hot that “you couldn’t hold your hands on them.”
James had reported earlier in the article that he brought photographer and “UFO buff” Dan Torterell along to help with the story and that they went up Brown’s Peak where they saw scorched grass and cacti. Jim Lorenzen is said to have come along and not to have been convinced that the burnt areas were connected to the UFOs. James later quotes Lorenzen as saying that the fire there “may have been set by hippies who live in the valley east of the peak. They are quite ritualistic.” Lorenzen added that there were fires reported on the peak during the afternoon before the sighting. James says “I doubt if ‘our mortal beings’ set the fires.”
According to James, Christiansen “filled out papers for the Army” at nearby Fort Huachuca and a spokesman there said that investigation was the responsibility of the Air Force.
Pearl Christiansen Report FormBesides filling out forms for the Army, Christiansen also filled out a sighting report form for NICAP. Mrs. Mayfield did as well, and Mr. Mayfield provided a description of the burned areas seen on the peak. While Mrs. Mayfield filled out her form neatly and provided all the details asked for, Christiansen had more to say than would fit and scrawled the details of her sighting wherever she could find room.
Mr. Mayfield’s report includes the information that on August 28, 1968, he, Christiansen and “a retired Army major” (we assume his wife was along based on James’s article, though he doesn’t mention her) drove up the peak as far as they could and then walked the remaining half mile to the top. According to him, they saw strips of burned cacti and grass that were about 40 feet long and 20-30 feet wide that alternated with strips of unburned areas. He describes the rocks as showing signs of being subjected to “intense heat” and being too hot to handle and an odor unlike anything he “could compare it with.”
While NICAP might have been interested in the case, that organization was focused, as were others in the UFO community, on the upcoming release of the Condon Report, which caused a furor when it came out in January 1969. At least James and Torterell were impressed.
KGRA Digital Media, UAP Crossfire, Martin Willis, Christian Lambright, Don Ecker and Chris Deperno discuss Sean Kirkpatrick’s departing opinion when leaving AARO, the second hour is the mysterious case of the Paul Benewitz UFO/Alien disinformation campaign.
Guest, Jobe Soffa Clarke on solving Fermi Paradox, the odd chances that had to happen for us to evolve and UFOs, space travel, dinosaurs and more.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Bob PrattIn last week’s blog, we profiled General Alfredo Moacyr Uchoa, who became a UFO investigator after retiring from his over 30-year career in the Brazilian Army. While he spent most of his career at the Military Academy of Brazil where he was a professor of engineering mechanics, head of the math department, and deputy director, he’d had an interest in the paranormal and the esoteric since the age of 18. After his retirement in 1963, he moved to Brasilia in 1968, and his son, Paulo, told him about a plantation owned by Wilson da Silva 120 km to the southwest where regular UFO activity was reported. Uchoa put together a group of 7 people, including his son, and they began visiting the plantation repeatedly starting in March. Bob Pratt was able to interview Uchoa and wrote an article headlined “The UFO reports of Brazilian General Alfredo Moacyr Uchoa” which can be found in the online magazine Alternate Perceptions. Gordon Creighton wrote a 3-part series of articles based on information he got from a 9-part series of articles by Eduardo Santa Maria that appeared in the Rio de Janeiro paper O Dia from October 26, to November 4, 1972. Creighton’s articles were published in the Flying Saucer Review Case Histories Supplements 12, 15, and 16, December 1972, June and August 1973 respectively. When we left off, we were telling the story of the investigation as told by Creighton.
According to Creighton, da Silva seemed to have the ability to predict when the UFOs would appear. On July 22, 1968, he announced to the group, “It will be tonight, General! I know it! I will guarantee that the saucers will appear at 9 o’clock, over the hill, in their usual place!” That night, the group had their first sighting, which was of a light that started out as something like “a magnesium flash” and reappeared as a pink light about the size of a house “giving out tiny spurts of slightly purplish light.”
Da Silva went towards the light to “make contact,” but after only a few steps, turned around and ran past the group shouting that they were in danger and should put their hands to their chests. The light then came towards the group, and they ran as well. When da Silva calmed down, he announced that there would be more activity over the next few nights.
According to Creighton, Uchoa described the activity at the Fifth Brazilian Congress on UFOs in São Paulo. He told his audience that it was extensive from July 26, 1968, to January 1969. He described it as mostly “pyrotechnic exhibitions in various colors” over the same hill, but said there was one occasion when a greenish-yellow “rainbow” with a radius of 800-1000 meters appeared” close to the ground nearby and “remained visible a long time.” According to Uchoa, a fireball came out of it and headed for the group, and da Silva fell to the ground, groaning, and then got up saying, “Let us go. These aren’t our people! These are bad people!”
According to Creighton, the wives of some of the investigators started coming along and would watch from their cars parked tens of meters away from the observation area. One night, only one of the women was there sitting in a Volkswagon bus. She suddenly ran towards the group telling them excitedly that an object had appeared over their heads and then landed about ten meters away from them while they were focused on a light display in another direction. She told the group that it was triangular and that she could see some sort of form moving inside of it. She said that as she ran towards them, the object shot up.
The group went to the area with a flashlight and found fresh marks that went deep into the “extremely hard and stony ground.” When they came back the next day, they examined the marks, which are described as being over 10 cm deep and forming a triangle that was 1.2 meters on two sides and 2.1 meters on the remaining side. They found other marks in the area as well.
Uchoa told other groups and individual investigators about the marks, and eight people came to investigate for themselves. Photos are reported to have been taken, but none are included in the article.
A new member, Andelino dos Santos, joined Uchoa’s group, and Creighton describes him as “an extremely keen and active investigator” who was “an even more remarkable ‘sensitive’ than Wilson da Silva.” He is said to have announced to the group one night that there would be activity “at 22:10 and 22:52 precisely.” According to Creighton, lights appeared at 10:10 p.m. as predicted, and there was a multi-colored display at 10:52.
Creighton describes weeks going by with no real change in the activity except that the lights seemed to be coming closer, and the group thought there might soon be some sort of contact. Then, one night in August of 1968, dos Santos announced to the group at da Silva’s house that there would be contact that night. He said it would be at 10:00 p.m. at the foot of the hill, that there would be a signal in the form of 3 flashes, and that the group should return the signal with a flashlight.
Creighton reports that at 10:00 p.m., a “luminous craft” appeared just as predicted, and the signal was exchanged. The group had decided earlier that Uchoa and dos Santos should be the ones to make contact. They started down the hill and after only a few steps, da Silva shouted “Danger! Danger to your lives! Don’t go on! They’re not our people!” He then pointed his flashlight at the craft and “it emitted a humming sound and shot straight up into the sky, vanishing in a matter of seconds.” Da Silva explained to the group that he felt “that the meeting would be dangerous.”
In Part 3, Creighton reports that da Silva’s actions and the failure to meet the occupants of the UFO “had a dampening effect” on the team’s spirits and that the activity ceased for a few days, which added to the gloom. In spite of this, the group continued to set up watch near the hill and “sometime later,” were rewarded with “an impressive spectacle.” Creighton describes several craft emitting greenish-yellow beams of light forming the shape of a mast, and stars in the area where a flag would be shining brighter than normal.
The group continued nightly observations and often brought skeptical friends along who were reportedly impressed. Then, one night, da Silva announced that he had received a message requesting a meeting by a fence 140 meters away from the hill. He told the group that it was to be with him, alone.
According to Creighton, as the group got ready and were determining the best positions from which to observe the meeting, a jaguar broke into a pigsty, and preparations were interrupted as the group armed themselves and went in search of it. They didn’t find it, and Creighton describes them being preoccupied and free of the “tension” they had been under in anticipation of the meeting when a “disc” arrived at the designated location.
The disc reportedly descended until it was less than a meter above the ground while members of the group took photos using cameras fitted with telescopic lenses. According to Creighton, da Silva walked towards the craft and was so focused on his mission that he nearly walked into a “dangerous swamp area” but was saved when “he suddenly heard a voice that cried: “Look out! Don’t go there. Go further to the left!”
Creighton reports that when da Silva got to the craft, “a door opened, and a normal-sized man, wearing a blue overall and a wide belt, descended by a small ladder.” When da Silva got back to the group, he told them he felt he was in a trance during the meeting and could remember very few details. All he could tell them was that there was nothing out of the ordinary about the being’s shape, that they shook hands, and that he was told, “We are peaceful. Your atomic experiments are causing an imbalance to our world.”
According to Creighton, da Silva wrote out a deposition and the rest of the group signed it, having agreed with the details based on their observation. Creighton reports that “several” photos were taken that “show the craft clearly, with a man beside it.” He ends the article with this: “According to O Dia, the negatives have been subjected to the most rigorous examinations and analyses, and their genuineness fully established.” Where these negatives might be now is a question that comes to mind.
Guest Grant Lavac discusses what got him interested in the UFO topic, the current state of what has been happening since the New York Times article was released in 2017, how the Australian handles the UFO problem and their lack of interest, he Westall 1966 UFO incident, and much more. (outro song: She’s the One, Mark Stanley)Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Brazilian UFOlogy goes back a long time. One of the first UFOlogists there to come to international attention was Dr. Olavo Fontes, who wrote regular reports in the late 1950s and into the 60s for the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization that were published in the APRO Bulletin. Fontes wrote the first report on the 1957 Antonio Villas Boas abduction case. He sent it to APRO, and it remained unpublished by that organization until 1966. Two years later, in 1968, a retired General from the Brazilian Army, Alfredo Moacyr Uchoa, got involved in his first case, and it brought him to international attention as well.
Bob PrattUchoa was an extraordinary researcher and investigator who was active until a few years before his death at age 90 in 1996. Bob Pratt, an American journalist who wrote extensively about South American UFOs, wrote an article headlined “The UFO reports of Brazilian General Alfredo Moacyr Uchoa” which can be found in the online magazine Alternate Perceptions. According to Pratt, Uchoa became interested in UFOs after seeing a film on the subject that was produced by the U.S. Air Force. He quotes Uchoa from an interview:
In 1960, when I was a student at our Superior School of War, all the students were invited to the America Embassy to see a film made by the U.S. Air Force, and in the film, we saw the big event of the visit of many objects over Washington in the 1950s that was caught on radar. I saw this and got inspired, got interested.
While Uchoa came to UFOs late in life, he had been a student of the paranormal and the esoteric since the age of 18. Uchoa’s son, Paulo, created a website General Alfredo Moacyr Uchoa. At the top of the section titled “Spiritualism and Theosophy” the beginning of his interest in these subjects is described:
During the course of the Polytechnic School in Rio de Janeiro, Uchoa lived in a boarding house. One morning, he woke up to the piercing screams of a man coming from a nearby room. He realized that they were screams of suffering and he felt an uncontrollable desire to relieve that person’s pain. He had just turned 18. He went to the patient’s room and intuitively placed his hands on the man’s head, who immediately fell into a deep sleep. Later, the patient was taken to a hospital, where he died of cerebrospinal meningitis. Doctors could not find a logical explanation for the man falling asleep at the height of a crisis like the one that was consuming him.
After this, Uchoa devoted himself to “transcendental healing,” studied the paranormal and the esoteric, including theosophy and spiritualism, and even helped set up a monastery with Swami Sevenanda, with whom he became friends. At the same time, he spent 40 years in the Brazilian Army, the last 25 of which was as a professor of engineering mechanics, head of the math department, and deputy director at the Military Academy of Brazil. He retired in 1963.
In 1968, Uchoa moved to Brasilia, and according to him during an interview with Pratt, his son told him about a farm in Alexânia, 120 kilometers to the southwest, where “certain things had happened.”
According to Pratt, Uchoa put together a group of seven investigators which included his son and a friend of his son who were both in the Army as a lieutenant and a major respectively, a physics professor, a law professor, “and others in different positions.”
According to Uchoa, their first “contact” was on July 22, 1968, when the entire group saw an object that emitted “an intense bluish-white light.” He said it moved to a new position, disappeared, reappeared in its original position, and then moved up to 2000 meters, and from there, lit up the area around them.
Uchoa told Pratt that over the next 10 months, they saw “extraordinary phenomena” on the farm “at least 60, maybe 100 times.” He wrote a book about the investigation titled Parapsychology and Flying Saucers: The Alexânia Case. He said he wouldn’t have written it if he were the only witness, and the law professor, Dr. Oswaldo Franca, confirmed for Pratt that “everything he wrote was true.”
There is a 3-part series of articles on the case by Gordon Creighton starting in Flying Saucer Review Case Histories December 1972, Supplement 12. Part 2 is in the June 1973, Supplement 15, and Part 3 is in the August 1973, Supplement 16. Creighton tells the reader that his series is a “resumé” of the case from a 9-part series of articles by Eduardo Santa Maria that appeared in the Rio de Janeiro paper O Dia from October 26, to November 4, 1972.
In Part 1, the farm is described as a plantation, and the owner is identified as Wilson da Silva. According to Creighton, the investigators interviewed locals and found that many believed the plantation was haunted. In spite of this reputation, their first sighting on July 22, 1968, came after 4 months of seeing nothing after beginning their investigation in March.
Wilson is described as having the ability to predict when the UFOs would appear and is said to have exclaimed on July 22, “It will be tonight, General! I know it! I will guarantee that the saucers will appear at 9 o’clock, over the Hill, in their usual place!”
The sighting is described quite differently in Creighton’s article. According to him, they saw something like a “magnesium flash” that disappeared and then reappeared as pink, nearly the size of a house, and “giving out tiny spurts of slightly purplish light.”
Creighton describes da Silva telling everyone to join hands when the light first appeared. One man is said to have become ill, and da Silva is said to have been knocked to the ground by an unseen force.
According to Creighton, when the light reappeared, da Silva walked towards it saying he was going to make, in Creighton’s words, “mental contact.” Then, just a few steps in, he turned around and ran full-speed past the group shouting “Danger! Watch out for your lives! Put a hand to your chest, everybody!
While da Silva kept shouting about danger, the rest of the group stayed put. The light is described as appearing once again and being blue with a mist around it. Creighton tells the reader that Santa Maria explained that the mist served as protection from radiation but didn’t say “how this was known.”
According to Creighton, the light headed straight for the group, and they ran from it. It stopped, disappeared, and then reappeared 500 meters away, this time “blue, flashing, and twinkling like a star,” and stayed there for 15 minutes.
After the light was gone, the group discussed what they had experienced, Uchoa wrote up a report, and they all signed it. Creighton ends Part 1 describing a calmed- down da Silva saying to the group that he “guarantees” there will be more manifestations over the next few nights.
Next week: a landing and contact.
Guests, Cody Jorgensen and Neil Bodo about their roll in keeping UFO/UAP information credible and available with an interactive website called, The UFO Database where thousands worldwide engage in the UFO topic.
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
On November 9, 1965, a huge portion of the Eastern United States experienced a power outage that began at 5:17 p.m. and lasted until 7:00 a.m. the next day in most areas. According to an article on the New England Historical Society website, it happened because maintenance workers “set a protective relay too low on a power line to Ontario, which then tripped the relay. It then sent power to other lines, overloading them.” At the time, the entire U.S. was in the midst of a UFO flap, and there was speculation that UFOs had something to do with the outage. As far-fetched as that might seem, this was considered seriously by Saturday Review columnist John Fuller in his 1966 book, Incident at Exeter and was discussed in Congress in 1968 during a UFO symposium. A high-strangeness aspect to all this is that Oscar-nominated actor Stuart Whitman, claimed he was given an explanation by the occupants of two UFOs he saw in New York City the night of the blackout.
The UFO flap of 1965 was extensive. So much so, that Jerome Clark wrote a four-part series on it for Flying Saucer Review that was published in Volume 12, Numbers 1, 2, 3, and 6. In Part IV, he references Fuller’s book which mainly dealt with UFO sightings reported in the area of Exeter, New Hampshire. In some of these cases, saucers were described flying near, and sometimes touching, high-tension power lines. With this in mind, after the blackout, Fuller speculated that the saucer pilots had been making observations of power sources in preparation for the mischief they were planning. According to Clark, “even jaded UFOlogists” were disturbed by a pattern of blackouts that followed throughout North and South America.
The connection between UFOs and the blackout was brought up before members of the U.S. Congress at the “Symposium on Unidentified Flying Objects” on July 20, 1968. Six scientists, including Dr. J. Allen Hynek, Dr. Carl Sagan, and Dr. James E. McDonald, were invited to present their views on the subject before the Committee on Astronautics.
McDonald was an atmospheric physicist who was deeply interested in the UFO phenomenon and was a member of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. He brought up the subject of the blackout after answering New York Representative William F. Ryan’s question about UFOs on radar saying there were “thousands” that were identified and an “impressive” number that weren’t. Ryan asked about “other events” associated with UFOs, and McDonald took this to mean physical effects. McDonald brought up the Levelland reports and described ten vehicles being stopped there in a small area within a two-hour period. He specifically mentioned that there was only “a trace” of rain and no thunder and lightning.
McDonald then, with some hesitancy, brought up the subject of UFO sightings near power stations that coincided with blackout periods calling the evidence “not as conclusive as the car-stopping phenomenon.” He specifically mentioned UFO sightings during blackouts in New York State; Tamaroa, Illinois; Shelbyville, Kentucky; and England.
McDonald recommended that Hynek be consulted regarding sightings in Manhattan, as he had interviewed witnesses there. Referring to the New York blackout, McDonald pointed out that while the pulse of current responsible for tripping a relay at an Ontario plant was never identified, there were UFOs seen over a substation in Syracuse, New York, where suspicion for the surge had been centered.
Ryan asked McDonald if any agency had investigated the New York blackout in terms of its relationship to UFOs. McDonald replied, “None at all.” He told Ryan that he had spoken to people with the Federal Power Commission and was “dissatisfied” with the amount of information he was able to gain. He said he was not going on the record as saying there was a “clear-cut cause and effect” relationship between UFOs and power outages, but he did say “it ought to be looked at.”
Stuart WhitmanWhat wasn’t brought up before the committee was the claim by Stuart Whitman that he saw two UFOs hovering outside his room on the twelfth floor of a Manhattan hotel and that the occupants did some explaining for him about their role in the blackout. His story has appeared in various publications, including Clark’s article, and comes from the article written by Hollywood columnist Vernon Scott headlined “Stuart Whitman Sees Flying Saucer” that was published in the January 11, 1966 South Bay Daily Breeze.
According to Whitman:
One of them was orange, and the other was blue. They gave off a strange luminescent light, so I couldn’t see if there were portholes or who was in them. Then, I heard them speaking to me as if they were on a loudspeaker. They spoke to me in English. It may not have been audible to anyone else. They said they wanted to talk to me because I appeared to have no malice or hate. They said they were fearful of Earth because Earthlings were messing around with unknown quantities and might disrupt the balance of the universe or their planet.
The people in the UFO said the blackout was just a little demonstration of their power and that they could do a lot more with almost no effort. It served as a warning. They said they could stop our whole planet from functioning. They asked me to do what I could to fight malice, prejudice, and hate on Earth, and then they took off. I couldn’t say how big the objects were, but when they took off I felt elated. I wasn’t even shocked. And I know I wasn’t asleep because I was standing by the window and wide awake the entire time. I don’t know why they picked me as a contact. But I’ll swear on a Bible that I saw them out there and that they talked to me.”
Whitman starred in one of this writer’s favorite movies released in 1972 (which he probably did his best to forget), Night of the Lepus, about giant bunny rabbits terrorizing and killing people in small Arizona towns. Despite this error in judgement, he was a very successful actor who worked constantly and was nominated for an Oscar as Best Actor for his role in the 1961 movie, The Mark. As noted by Clark, Whitman “presumably had more to lose than to gain” in telling his story.
Guest, Dr Beatriz Villarroel discusses a strange visual transient captured on a plate taken on July 19, 1952 and how it may tap into a mass UFO sighting that very same night which also seems to be the case for July 26 the following weekend, and much more!
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
UFO documentaries and television specials play a big part in introducing people to the subject. Sometimes they’re well researched and made with care by creators with a passionate interest in the subject, and sometimes they’re made mostly for the sake of making money. In the case of a television special made by the Walt Disney Company titled Alien Encounters from New Tomorrowland that was aired in 5 U.S. cities in February and March of 1995, it was created as a means to promote a new ride at Walt Disney World Resort. While fairly typical of the UFO-related television presentations of its day, the matter-of-fact statements by narrator Robert Urich to the effect that aliens are visiting Earth in spaceships and abducting its human inhabitants, and that there are government documents that prove this, caused some to speculate that the documentary was made in partnership with U.S. government officials as part of a disclosure process.
This sort of speculation also came about in the case of a movie that was released under two titles, first in 1974 as UFOs: Past, Present and Future, and then in 1976 and 1979 as UFOs: It has Begun. It was written primarily by Robert Emenegger, who also produced it along with Allan Sandler. It has Rod Serling as its main narrator, and there are appearances by Burgess Meredith, Jose Ferrer, Jacques Vallée, and J. Allen Hynek.
Emenegger has told the story of the film’s production on several occasions including as recently in 2008 on video shot outside of the X Conference. His story is as follows: he and Sandler had originally set out to produce a series of films about advanced military technology but were diverted by an intriguing piece of information offered by their military contact, Paul Shartle, with whom they were working at Norton Air Force Base. Shartle, security manager and chief of requirements for the audio-visual program at the base, said he had seen a film of an alien craft landing at Holloman AFB three years previous. As discussions about possible projects continued, the idea that one of them be about UFOs came up and was encouraged by military officials who offered the producers the use of the footage. Emenegger and Sandler decided to go ahead with a UFO documentary.
According to Emenegger, he and Sandler visited the Pentagon repeatedly and never signed in, which had also been the case at Norton. He speculates that this was for the purpose of plausible deniability. He says they met with Col. William Coleman, who okayed the use of the film and told them that the Air Force would sponsor the documentary. Emenegger explains that this was for the purpose of improving public relations with the military in the aftermath of the Vietnam War.
According to Emenegger, after a long wait, Coleman told the producers that the climate created by the Watergate scandal made it an inappropriate time to release the Holloman footage. In its place, at the end of the film is an illustrated sequence showing a craft landing at an Air Force base and a meeting between alien beings and U.S. military officials. According to Emenegger, this was based on the film footage that was promised by the Air Force. Speculation on whether or not the Air Force really had the footage described or was engaged in a disinformation operation continues to this day.
In 1984, Michael Eisner became Disney’s CEO and started looking for ways to revitalize the parks. They had success with an attraction based on Star Wars (before becoming owners of the franchise) called Star Tours, and Eisner got the idea to create something based on Alien. Cole Geryak posted an article on March 23, 2017, headlined “Disney Extinct Attractions: ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter” on the Laughing Place website. According to Geryak, “older Imagineers” convinced Eisner that an attraction based on the film would be too scary and that it’s “R” rating made it inappropriate for the park. However, Eisner liked the idea of ride involving a malevolent alien and had the Imagineers come up with an original story.
What came about was “ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter,” which in Geryak’s words, “soft opened” on December 16, 1994. Someone managed to video the full experience offered by the attraction and it can be seen on YouTube.
The visitors are introduced to an alien-run, off-Earth company called XS-Tech and its latest teleportation technology and then ushered into a theatre where shoulder restraints lower over them locking them into their seats. A demonstration of the teleportation device goes wrong, and instead of the XS-Tech company chairman being teleported to Earth, a malevolent, “carnivorous,” winged creature ends up in the clear, plastic receiving tube. The creature breaks through the tube and there is a black out as it supposedly stalks through the room. Lights flash occasionally and a technician sent to fix the electricity is heard being eaten while screaming.
Michele Debczak described the work of the Imagineers that created the sensation that there was a real creature in the room in her article posted April 25, 2019, on the Mental Floss website headlined “Alien Encounter: The Life and Death of Walt Disney World’s Scariest Ride Ever:”
Through strategically placed speakers and 4D devices, riders heard repulsive slurping and crunching noises, then were sprayed in the face with warm water—making them think they had been splattered with fresh blood. At one point, harnesses pressed down onto riders’ shoulders to make it feel as if the monster was crouching on top of them. Warm air and water released from the seats replicated what it might feel like if the creature was slobbering down the back of each audience member’s neck.
According to Debczak, who links to a June 4, 2000 Palm Beach Post article as a reference, children often left in tears, and the attraction was closed in 2003, though Disney gave no reason for it.
The documentary made to promote the attraction is classic 1990’s UFOlogy with claims of recovered crashed saucers and alien bodies and the existence of secret government documents that proved everything. A good ten minutes is given over to Budd Hopkins and people with claims of being abducted.
Mark Pilkington wrote an article titled “Mickey Mouse Conquers the Martians” which is posted on hedweb.com. The documentary was written and produced by Andy Thomas, described by Pilkington as a “UFO believer.” According to Pilkington, this was after a “UFO summit” held in Disney World that was organized by Don Ecker and included Budd Hopkins, Clifford Stone, and George Knapp.
As the special leads up to the promotion for the ride, Urich says something that would make any conspiracy theorist perk up: “Here at New Tomorrowland at Disney World, scientists and engineers have brought to life a possible scenario that helps acclimate the public to their inevitable alien encounter.” In the article (page 4 of pdf) written by Bo Poertner headlined “Disney Encounter Lifts UFO Believers” published in the May 3, 1995 Orlando Sentinel he quotes Deland, Florida, resident Don Zanghi who felt that the government was involved with the special. According to Zanghi, who is described as a counselor of UFO abductees, “We believe the purpose of it is that the government is doing a controlled release of information and the best way to do it is through Disney.”
Appreciation is due to Patrick Gross who examines the Disney special in the “Stupidities” section of his well-researched and informative website UFOs at Close Sight.
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Our final show of 2023 is with Mark Sokol, who was present and posed a question to Lawrence Krauss live at his debate on UFOs, discusses his interest in UAP/UFOs, research on UAPs & Breakthrough Propulsion, as well as advancing antigravity technology in his advanced propulsion research & development lab in Hawthorne, NJ. Show Notes
Guest, Chris Aubeck discussing how he got into the UFO topic, the long-lost history of how we came to believe in UFOs and aliens. This is unique, thought-provoking research that dares to be controversial, Alien Artifacts: The Forgotten Story of How We Came to Believe in Visitors from the Stars. He will also discuss some historic cases as well as saucer shaped craft (spoiler alert, there is not that many).
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Ted PhillipsFor some UFOlogists, as they go through many years of research and investigation, their opinions and beliefs shift and change. Such was the case for Ted Phillips, whose involvement spanned over five decades from 1964 until his death on March 10, 2020. For much of that time, he specialized in physical trace cases and considered UFOs to be nuts and bolts craft piloted by flesh and blood extraterrestrial creatures. His views changed, particularly due to his investigation of a paranormal hotspot in Missouri that he and fellow researchers called “The Marley Woods” in an effort to conceal its location. Towards the end of his life, he saw the UFO phenomenon as being more complex than he’d previously considered it to be.
Phillips did an interview with Brad Steiger for Steiger’s 1974 book, Mysteries of Time and Space. It appears as an excerpt in the article (page 4 of pdf) put together by Steiger headlined “Time, Space and the UFO Enigma” that was published in the 1980 edition of Beyond Reality’s UFO Special Issue. Steiger explains in his introduction that in the first chapter of his book, he theorized “that mankind has been invited to participate in a bizarre kind of contest with some undeclared cosmic opponents.” According to his theory, if human beings can come to comprehend the “preposterous clues” and “master the proper moves” they will better understand their place “in the cosmic scheme of things.” Steiger calls this contest “The Reality Game” and posits that it is purposely confusing and that UFOs are just one of many different types of paranormal phenomena that are part of it. According to him, “In such a framework, the UFO phenomenon becomes a mechanism that can bring mankind only so far in teaching him how to get in true step with Time and Space.” This is similar to the thinking of John Keel and Jacques Vallée at the time. Steiger’s interview with Phillips shows the “nuts and bolts” point of view of the phenomenon.
Steiger describes Phillips as being an inspector for the Missouri State Highway Department at the time. As for his involvement in the UFO field, according to Steiger, Phillips, at the time of the interview, had investigated over 150 UFO reports over a nine-year period and worked with Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was a scientific consultant for Project Blue Book and was the director of the Lindheimer Astronomical Research Center at Northwestern University. According to a profile of Phillips written by Kevin Randle, “He began investigating UFOs in 1964 and met Dr. J. Allen Hynek during the investigation of the Socorro UFO landing.”
Ted Phillips & Dr J. Allen HynekAt the beginning of the interview, Phillips describes how he came to specialize in physical trace cases. According to him, while he was having dinner with Hynek in early October 1969, Hynek commented that “after all these years, it seems that it is about time we started looking into specific pieces of the puzzle, rather than running around trying to get all the information from all around the world.” He suggested that Phillips specialize, and Phillips tells Steiger that he, Phillips, “decided that the hardest evidence available is a ground effect.”
Phillips became well-known in the UFO community with his investigation of a landing report in Delphos, Kansas. The case involved 15-year-old Ronald Johnson and his parents who all reported seeing an object on November 2, 1971, that was eight feet in diameter and ten feet tall. On the ground was a ring that they said glowed at night. Mrs. Johnson reportedly touched it and experienced numbness in her hand and on her leg, where she went to brush off her fingers. Phillips, then a member of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and founding member of the Midwest UFO Network (which would become the Mutual UFO Network) arrived on December 4, 1971, after being contacted by Hynek.
Delphos RingWhen Phillips got there, he saw a ring of un-melted snow covering the area at the time. He took samples of the soil and described it as being dry to a depth of 12 inches and containing a white substance. The samples were analyzed by Dr. Erol A. Faruk, a research fellow at the University of Nottingham, who described finding “an alkali metal salt of an organic acid.”
Ted Phillips & Allen Hynek Minnesota 1975In an article written by Joe Harvat headlined “Hard UFO Evidence: The Ted Phillips Story,” posted August 12, 2015, on anomalien.com, Harvat wrote that Phillips quit researching after Hynek’s death in 1986 and explained that “It just wasn’t any fun without my friend.” According to Harvat, Phillips returned to active research in 1998 after Jacques Vallée convinced him “to resume his important work.”
Harvat describes there having been a change in UFO reports and quotes Phillips explaining it: “Sometime during the late 1980s, the number of incidents involving large flying objects dropped considerably. At the same time, reports involving very small UFOs increased dramatically.” According to Harvat, Phillips noticed that these sorts of reports tended to be repeated in certain areas and it occurred to him that this gave him an opportunity to go to such an area with equipment at the ready to analyze the phenomena in a way that hadn’t been done before.
The Marley Woods provided him that opportunity, and Phillips described the investigation there conducted by himself and fellow researchers during a lecture at the 2009 Ozark UFO Conference. According to him, a property owner in the area called him ten years previously and told him that he and his neighbors had had some unusual sightings and asked him if he would do some investigating and explain it. Phillips told his audience that he told him “Well, probably not the explaining part, but I’ll sure come down and look.” This began an investigation that was still ongoing at the time of the conference.
In the beginning of Phillips’s lecture, he compares the Marley Woods to Skinwalker Ranch. He describes what was reportedly seen at the Marley Woods as far back as 1937, some of it by him, personally, and presents pictures taken of some of the phenomena. According to him, there were 302 reports of amber-colored lights, 186+ of small light balls, 2 mystery lights that appear consistently in the same spots (one in the north and one in the south), a light mass that stays in location for one to one and a half hours, 71 physical trace cases, 15 reports of structured objects, 6 reports of people being affected by an unseen force, 22 incidents of cattle and horse deaths, and 13 reports of a large unknown animal. Phillips says that his first ever sighting in 44 years of research was of 5 amber lights on his 7th trip to Marley.
In 2007, Phillips put together a team called the Special Investigations Unit that worked at the Marley Woods and was prepared to go to any site, fully equipped for a detailed investigation. The team included Thomas Ferrario and Debbie Zieglemeyer (both divers), Adam Johnson (a documentary filmmaker), and Rodney Diller. Footage shot by Johnson of one incident involving a light, “UFO footage – Marley Woods – MO – 5|3|08” can be seen on YouTube. A peacock can be heard in the background that seems to be reacting to the light’s appearance.
On November 12, 2010, Phillips appeared on the webcast Conundrum, hosted by Jay Michael. At 35:46, Michael asks “Do you think that these things, whatever they are – devices, UFOs – are physical when they appear? Or, do you think that maybe they’re non-physical?” Phillips replies that he thinks “for sure, the old classic-saucer types definitely are physical, at least at certain points in time.” He points out that compaction tests of indentations found at reported landing sites consistently indicated weights of between 7 and 14 tons. He also mentions damage to trees in the area. He goes on to say that he’s beginning to think that there are points where some of the objects become “not-physical.”
Phillips advises caution in associating UFOs with paranormal activity such as ghosts and poltergeists. However, he speculates that these might be a product of advanced alien technology, “a product of their being,” or an effort to “confuse the issue.” He brings up Jacques Vallée’s views on UFOs and the paranormal and says, “I now tend to bend that way.”
It seems that in the 36 years between his interview with Steiger and his interview with Michael, Phillips had come to lean towards the same ideas Steiger explored in his book. At around eight minutes into his 2009 speech, he says that after what he’s seen at the Marley Woods, he’s gone through a “profound” change. He says, “For years – many years – you know, I was known as ‘the nuts and bolts guy.’ After seeing some of this stuff, it’s cut shorter to just ‘the nuts guy.’”
Guest, aviation historian, Michael Schratt presents Leonard H. Stringfield’s legendary “UFO Crash Retrieval” series where Leonard interviewed firsthand military witnesses, Michael has presents these cases through contemporary illustrations. Note: Some images will be added to show notes, but all of the images are in the YouTube video in show notes.
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
People have probably been reporting strange things in the sky for as long as they’ve been able to communicate. Chris Aubeck is a researcher who reaches far back in the historical record searching for UFO cases and is a founder of the Magonia Exchange, which is a group dedicated to the collection and archiving of fortean reports. In the June 2015 issue (page 11 of pdf) of Edge Science magazine, he and National Aviation Reporting Center On Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP) associate Martin Shough detailed their investigation of a 1665 report from Barhöfft, Sweden (now part of Germany), near Stralsund, that received a lot of attention at the time. The article is an excerpt from their 2015 book, Return to Magonia.
Martin ShoughAubeck and Shough begin by describing the political and cultural circumstances at the time of the incident. According to them, “in 17th century Europe, celestial prodigies were treated as potentially inflammatory propaganda, which meant that printing full names could put witnesses at risk.” Newspapers had just started to be published based on the gazette format, and journalism was just beginning to be developed. In 1665, France put out its first scientific journal, Journal des Sçavans, and the first issue of the British publication, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, was put out in April of that year.
That month, on April 8, fisherman in Stralsund reported that at 2:00 p.m., while anchored near Barhöfft, they saw a huge flock of birds that formed into shape “like a long passage in a house,” in the words of Erasmus Francisci. Francisci collected news reports of the incident and published an account in 1680 in a book titled Der Wunder-reiche Unserer Nider-Welt/Oder Erd-umgebende Lufft-Kreys which in English is The Wonderfully Rich Covering of our Lower World, or Earth-surrounding Lufft-Kreys. Francisci’s book contains descriptions of strange phenomena, much like the books of Charles Fort. One of the illustrations in it depicts a rain of rats.
According to Aubeck and Shough, the “long passage” shape turned into a warship followed by others that seemed to come in from the north. Another group came in from the south and the two began firing cannons at each other. In the aftermath, the fishermen saw the broken masts of the southern group and could make out a man dressed in brown carrying a hat under his right arm watching other men working and running about. They saw flags and ships everywhere, and a ship then came in from the west. By 6:00 p.m., the northern fleet left the southern fleet behind.
What happened next is described in the account provided by Aubeck and Shough, which they describe as being the earliest, that comes from a leaflet published in Leipzig in 1665 titled Eine abgebildete Beschreibung von dem wunderlichen Stralsundischen Lufft-Kriege und Schiff-streite which translates to “An illustrated Description of the miraculous Stralsund Air-wars and Ship-battles.” The account is as follows:
… a little while later, out of the middle of the sky appeared to them a round flat form like a plate and like a big man’s hat [umbher begriffen] with colors like the moon when eclipsed. It seemed to stand directly above St Nicholas Church; and stayed there until the evening. After which the sailors, now full of fear and dread, could no longer watch nor wait for the end of this terrible and suspicious spectacle; they retreated to their huts where in the following days they found their hands and feet, and their heads and other body parts, burdened by a great shaking.
Aubeck and Shough quote from an article in the April 10, 1665 Berliner Ordinari und Postzeitungen:
Chris AubeckOne of these fishermen had been sick on his feet. All of the citizens who have observed this are reliable. Yesterday, Herr Colonel von der Wegck and Docter Gessman interrogated two of the six fishermen. May God change this miracle for the best.
Aubeck and Shough devote the last five pages of the nine-page article to speculation on what it was that the fishermen might have seen. They specifically mention “murmerings of starlings” in which the birds number more than a million and are popularly referred to in the area as “The Black Sun.” The authors express the opinion that the starlings couldn’t have maintained the shape reported over the church for the length of time it was said to have been seen.
One phenomena they consider is what is known as a fata morgana (Aubeck and Shough use the word “mirage”) which is where atmospheric conditions are such that a steep thermal inversion and an atmospheric duct are created which cause light rays to bend. Under these conditions, objects on the ground or the surface of the sea can appear to be floating in the air.
The authors also consider lenticular clouds, planetary bodies, ice halos, and sun dogs and conclude that the length of time that the plate-shaped object was seen and the persistence of its shape make the above explanations unlikely.
Francisci EngravingAubeck and Shough’s article is illustrated with examples of the material they referenced that includes elaborate engravings depicting what was described. The material was put on display from May 5 to September 3, 2023, as part of an exhibition celebrating the case by the Kunstbibliothek at the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin. The Kunstbibliothek is a network of museum libraries devoted to art history and cultural studies.
From the website promoting the exhibition is this description: “…the exhibition reconstructs the way this event was portrayed in the media and exposes certain paradigms and communications strategies that are still used today to determine how we report on ‘unexplained aerial phenomena.’” It is explained that one of the themes of the exhibition is “the power of myths.” According to the website, a myth that came out of the Stralsund incident was that the object reported over the church was “a sign of God’s wrath” after the church was struck by lightning five years later on June 19, 1670.
Guest, Kevin Wright is dedicated to pushing for our US Government’s transparency on the UAP issue. He discusses the Schumer/Rounds UAP Amendment, what it would look like if it did not happen and more.
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
According to the sighting report forms (pages 2 and 4 of pdf) filled out by Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter for the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena and the International UFO Bureau on September 18, 1973, he and 10-12 other men observed a UFO he described as a light that was “at one time, as bright as the moon” for 10-12 minutes in Leary, Georgia. According to the form, they were outside waiting for a 7:30 p.m. Lions Club meeting to start. During Carter’s presidential campaign in 1976, a reporter from the National Enquirer asked him if he would release all the information the government had on UFOs if he was elected. He is quoted in the June 8, 1976 edition of the Enquirer as saying “If I become President, I’ll make every piece of information this country has about UFO sightings available to the public and the scientists. I’m convinced that UFOs exist because I have seen one.” When he was elected, the White House began receiving letters from UFO enthusiasts who wanted to know when he was going to make good on his promise. One of these is included in the article by Philip J. Klass, headlined “NASA, the White House, and UFOs” published in the Spring/Summer 1978 Skeptical Inquirer:
Dear Mr. President,
During your presidential campaign; you had made the commitment [sic], that you, sir, would release, to the American people, all of the U.F.O. secrecy now held in the archives of the federal government, consisting of various agencies; your article with this commitment [sic] appeared in the June 8, 1976 issue of “The National Enquirer” newspaper. I have voted for you, mainly for this reason. I do faithfully hope you will not disappoint me, as one of millions of citizens who has voted for you . . .
Richard C. Henry of the Department of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University, who was a deputy to NASA’s Director of the Astrophysics Division Bland Norris at the time, wrote an essay about the situation. Henry was also an astrophysics consultant to the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. According to Henry in his essay titled “UFOs and NASA” published in the Journal of Scientific Exploration Vol. 2, No. 2, pp. 93-102, 1988, this situation prompted White House Scientific Advisor Frank Press to reach out to NASA in a letter, and Henry included it as Appendix 1. NASA now had what Henry described as a “hot potato” in its hands and getting rid of it would mean, in essence, saying no to the President.
The letter, dated July 21, 1977, is addressed to NASA Administrator Robert Frosch. It begins with this:
Dear Bob:
We have discovered that the White House is becoming the focal point for an increasing number of inquiries concerning UFO’s. As you know, there appears to be a national revival of interest in the matter with a younger generation becoming involved. Those of us in the Executive Office are ill-equipped to handle these kinds of inquiries.
He wrote that it seemed to him “that the focal point for the UFO question ought to be in NASA.” He makes two recommendations. The first is that a small panel be put together at NASA to see if there had been any significant findings since the Condan [sic] report and that high-profile people with an interest in the problem such as Carl Sagan be involved as “this is a public relations problem as much as anything else.” The second is that “NASA become the focal point for general correspondence and that those inquiries which come to the White House be sent to the designated desk at NASA.”
The reply, signed by Frosch, wasn’t sent until September 6, 1977, and is included as Appendix 2. In the letter, it is explained that the Air Force “concluded, in the absence of significant findings, that the program warranted no more than routine form letter answers to inquiries and has been handling the program in that manner since about 1970,” and that NASA used form letters as well. It is pointed out that, while this is economical, it results in frustration for those “making what they consider to be serious inquiries.” It is agreed that a NASA panel might “possibly discover new significant findings” but before committing to creating such a panel, NASA needed assurance that an inquiry was justified. It is suggested that this could be done by assigning someone to review UFO reports from the last ten years who would then make a recommendation. The letter closes with the promise that such an action would be taken if Press concurred. Press did concur in the course of a letter dated September 14, 1977, included as Appendix 4.
Philip J. KlassAccording to Henry, word leaked out that NASA was designating him as the project officer for UFOs, and this resulted in Klass sending him a copy of his 1976 book UFOs Explained marked “To Richard Henry with the hope this may shed useful light on an old controversy-And help you and NASA avoid the fate of “Tar Baby” and the late Dr. Ed Condon!” He also says that Robert Sheaffer wrote him using Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal letterheaded stationary warning him to “be prepared to be deluged by mail from every kook and crackpot in the country, and even worse, be prepared for letters from the ‘scientific’ UFO investigators, who will appear reasonable and sane enough, yet are true believers in every sense of the word . . .” Henry replied on October 5, 1977, that he hadn’t been assigned.
Henry explains on page 96 that NASA has a unique vertical management structure and that every piece of correspondence that comes in is copied and sent out to the lowest level members of the distribution chain for which the secretary feels the information would be relevant. A draft reply is written and this is sent up the chain and can be rewritten or edited at any point until it’s finally signed and mailed by the addressee, who often reads the original letter for the first time. By the time the reply is sent out, it’s not clear at which point the reply was finalized, and in matters of policy, it’s not clear where any given policy originated.
In this case, this worked out to NASA’s advantage, as the decision to say no to the President couldn’t be blamed on any one person. In a letter to Press signed by Frosch, it is explained that NASA was going to continue dealing with UFO inquiries as it had been but was open to using NASA labs to “analyze and report upon an otherwise unexplained organic or inorganic sample” and was prepared “to respond to any bona fide physical evidence from credible sources.” Due to “an absence of tangible or physical evidence available for thorough laboratory analysis” and NASA’s inability to establish “a sound scientific procedure for investigating these phenomena” it is proposed that “NASA take no steps to establish research in this area or to convene a symposium on this subject.” The potato had been passed.
Guest, Adam Frank, discusses the possibility of extraterrestrial life through the lens of scientific discoveries, theories, and firsthand research. He will also discuss his recently released book, The Little Book of Aliens.
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In an urgent matter, guest Daniel Sheehan discusses a grassroots effort to save the Schumer-Rounds UAP Disclosure Act, an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, under threat from a small but powerful handful in Congress.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Argentina, especially in the area of Bahía Blanca, has had its share of high-strangeness UFO reports ranging from cars being lifted up in the air to abductions. This week, we’re looking the 1973 case involving Dionisio Llanca, a truck driver who reported he’d had an encounter with a UFO and three creatures. When questioned under the influence of hypnosis and Pentothal, he recounted being taken aboard a spacecraft, but could not recall the details when in his regular, conscious state. Whatever criticisms one might have of abduction tales told by people under hypnosis, the circumstances around the case, as reported in newspapers in the region, were unusual and mysterious.
Llanca’s case is presented in the November-December 1973 APRO Bulletin under the headline “Occupant Encounter in Argentina,” and in the Volume 26, Number 4, 1980 Flying Saucer Review under the headline “The Extraordinary Case of Dionisio Llanca and the UFOnauts” by Gordon Creighton and Charles Bowen. The Bulletin article seems to have been written prior to the hypnosis and Pentothal sessions that began on November 6, 1973, according to the Flying Saucer Review article, as there is no mention of them or the details Llanca recalled during them.
According to the Bulletin article, Llanca (described as 25 or 26 years old) was getting ready for a two-day journey carrying building supplies from Bahía Blanca to Rio Gallego. He inspected his Dodge 600, noticed the right rear tire was low, and set off at 12:30 a.m. on Sunday, October 28, without doing anything about it. He stopped at an Esso gas station at 1:00 a.m. to get some gas and still did nothing about the tire. Then, fifteen minutes later, on a desolate and dark section of route 3, the tire had gotten low enough that he had no choice but to change it.
The story from here is presented as told by Llanca in quotes both in the Bulletin and Flying Saucer Review, and they’re almost identical with differences most likely attributable to translation. According to Llanca, as he was kneeling down next to the tire getting ready to change it, a yellow light came up behind him that he thought was from the headlights of a Peugeot. It then changed to a bluish light that he described as being like a welding arc. He went to stand up and was unable to. He was able to turn his head, and when he did so, he saw three creatures right behind him with a large plate-shaped object hovering in the air behind them.
According to Llanca, he was unable to speak, and the creatures, a female with a male on each side of her, just stood and looked at him for five minutes. He said they were around 1 meter 75 tall (5 feet 8 inches), wore tight-fitting lead-grey suits, and that he recognized the creature in the middle as a female because of the outline of her breasts. He said they wore boots that were orange like the color of chamois cloths and wore gloves that went halfway up their arms that were the same color. He described the female as having long blond hair that went halfway down her back and said the males had blond hair as well that was short and combed back. He said, “Their faces were like ours, but they had great wide foreheads and elongated eyes, like those of the Japanese, and slightly protuberant.” He said they were talking in a language he couldn’t understand that “had no vowels and sounded like a badly tuned radio with squeaky, sharp notes.”
According to Llanca, after five minutes, one of the males then lifted him up by his collar, forcefully, but not violently, and the other male placed a “nozzle” coming out of a device that looked like a “battery operated electric shaver” against the base of his, Llanca’s, left index finger. He said that when he removed it, he saw two drops of blood on his finger and then passed out.
According to the Flying Saucer Review article, Llanca next found himself lying among some wagons in the corral of the Sociedad Rural de Bahía Blanca 9.6 km away from his truck and had no memory of how he got there or who he was. He found his way back to the road, and his next memory was of waking up in the Bahía Blanca Municipal Hospital.
At this point, he knew who he was and remembered the encounter and waking up in the corral. However, he was still unable to fill in the gaps between the encounter, waking up in the corral and getting to the road, and then waking up in the hospital. He asked about his truck and was told that the police had found it by the side of the road and that it was still jacked up.
The article includes an entry from the hospital security log book that was taken from the account published in the November 8, 1973 Gente y la Actualidad:
Name: Not Known.
Site of accident: Highway 3, beyond El Chola.
Cause: Says a very powerful light blinded him; that it was a flying saucer, and that he
remembers no more. Saw two very blond men and one woman.
Lesions: Traumatism of the skull and right temporal forehead, with total amnesia.
After the log entry, a description of how Llanca ended up at the Municipal Hospital from an interview with Dr. Ricardo Smirnoff, “an expert in traumatology and forensic medicine,” is presented. According to Smirnoff, a man found Llanca wandering in the center of town “like an automaton” asking people where he could find a police station. The man took him to the Spanish Hospital, and a doctor there called him, Smirnoff, and told him they had “a rather curious case.” Smirnoff said that when he got there, he found Llanca weeping and asking what town he was in.
According to Smirnoff, Llanca “was suffering from total retrograde amnesia.” He said he suspected a blow to the head had caused it, but that he could find no marks on Llanca’s head. Concerned about a possible skull fracture, Smirnoff had Llanca sent to the Municipal Hospital. As for Llanca’s claim about seeing a flying saucer, Smirnoff said he didn’t believe in flying saucers but was “obliged to admit that this case of Dionisio Llanca is very strange, very extraordinary.”
Creighton and Bowen then present details that came out during the examination of Llanca over many weeks as reported in the January 19, 1974 La Cronica. According to the account in La Cronica, Llanca recalled finding himself “inside a space-craft” that had a lead-colored floor. He said he communicated with the creatures telepathically and was told that they had been coming to Earth since the 1950s and that they were establishing contact to determine the adaptability of humans should the need arise to move them into interstellar space. Llanca is quoted saying, “These people said that our planet is bound to suffer very grave catastrophes if our behavior continues as it is at present.”
Another detail Llanca described was seeing a cable sent out from the craft that connected to a high-tension power line. According to Creighton and Bowen, on the night in question, “the local consumption of power rose by about 10 amperes.”
Creighton and Bowen then reference an article in the January 25, 1974 Asi which contains an interview with a psychiatrist, Dr. Eduardo Mata, in which he describes the team that examined Llanca as four psychiatrists, two psychologists, a surgeon and a traumatologist. He said there were several sessions that involved the use of hypnosis and Pentothal. He said Llanca knew nothing about what he said during the sessions and that he would likely read about it in the newspapers as if it had happened to someone else. Mata is quoted in the Flying Saucer Review article from an interview that appeared in the February 17, 1974 O Globo, expressing some doubt about the investigation due to questions in the initial sessions that had “implicit in them, their own reply.” According to him, these may have contaminated the later sessions. This was also the opinion of Dr. Eladio Santos who took over the sessions. Even so, Santos told O Globo that Llanca “told what he thinks he experienced.”
Mata described Llanca as simple and primitive and more concerned with everyday matters such as his job and his truck than his unusual experience. According to Creighton and Bowen, Llanca’s life fell apart after his experience, and he was kicked out of his parents’ home.
Llanca’s story of torment at the hands of the team conducting the hypnosis and Pentothal sessions as told by him is presented in an article by Marcelo Metayer headlined “The story of Dionisio Llanca, the Trucker Abducted on the Side of Route 3” posted November 2, 2021, on the diarios bonaerenses website. According to Metayer, Llanca was found by Rosario UFOlogical Café investigators who spoke with him via Zoom, and he told them that the Pentothal injections were “an ordeal, I thought I was dying, my skin became like fish scales and fell off.” He added, “They took me to the office and gave me the serum every two or three days. It was the greatest suffering. The injections were tremendous.”
Metayer includes the information that the doctors were accompanied by Argentinian UFO researcher Fabio Zerpa, who won an award for his research on the case at the First International Congress of Ufology in Acapulco, Mexico, in 1977. According to Metayer, Zerpa wrote about the case “in several books and continued to highlight it in many subsequent interviews.”
https://anomalien.com/abduction-case-of-dionisio-llanca-kidnapped-by-three-humanoid-aliens/
https://www.diarioeltiempo.com.ar/nota-la-historia-de-dionisio-llanca–el-camionero-abducido-a-la-vera-de-la-ruta-3-174537
The story of Dionisio Llanca, the trucker abducted on the side of Route 3
One day in October 1973 Llanca left Bahía Blanca for Río Gallegos. He stopped to change a tire when a UFO appeared to him and he saw three beings, who invited him to come on board. Days later he was interrogated by a team of Fabio Zerpa and eight doctors. Today, after almost half a century, he says that he went through “terrible suffering” caused by the pentothal injections he was given.
Dionisio Llanca watched an episode of “Thief Without Destiny” while having a steak for dinner and a couple of glasses of Cepita. After a while he got ready, greeted his uncle, put on his jacket and went out. It was just after midnight on Saturday in Bahía Blanca, but Dionisio (25) was not going to a bowling alley, but to work: he got into his Dodge 600 truck and set off for Río Gallegos with construction materials. One tire was low, but he decided to leave anyway. After a while the truck began to sway on Route 3 and he decided to change the tire. It was almost 20 kilometers from Bahia. He got out of the vehicle and started working. He suddenly looked to the left and saw a yellowish light. It was 1:15 in the morning on October 28, 1973 and at that moment began what is considered the most famous and controversial abduction case in Argentina, a workhorse of UFOlogist Fabio Zerpa, but which will leave a bitter mark on its protagonist.
Dionisio thought that the approaching light was that of a car, but it came upon him and paralyzed him. He turned and saw “a large, saucer-shaped thing, suspended in the air, about seven meters high” and three beings, two men and a woman, next to him. They touched his right hand and made an incision. He lost consciousness. He woke up in the corrals of the Bahía Blanca Rural Society, almost 10 kilometers from where he had stopped with the truck. He started walking. He didn’t know who he was. He wandered around police stations, where they believed he was just another drunk. He ended up in the Spanish Hospital and there he was seen by Dr. Ricardo Smirnoff, a forensic doctor on duty, who would later have him admitted to the Municipal Hospital.
It wasn’t until October 30 that Dionisio partially remembered what had happened to him.
Operation Bordeu
Journalism began to be interested in that truck driver who had gone through those strange circumstances. The first article in Gente magazine was published on November 8 and at the same time Fabio Zerpa entered the scene. “Operation Bordeu”, as the case was named based on the town where the events occurred, began with “five doctors from Bahía Blanca: Roberto García del Cerro, psychoanalyst; Eduardo Matta, psychiatrist; Nora Milano, psychologist; Eladio Santos, hypnologist, and Ricardo Smirnoff, forensic doctor,” as Zerpa wrote in “The UFO and its Mysteries.”
Later Llanca would be taken to Buenos Aires, where he was seen by three more doctors: Agustín Antonio Luccisano, a toxicologist from La Plata; Juan Antonio Pérez del Cerro, president of the Ontoanalysis Association, and Héctor Solari, hypnologist and psychologist.
In the first stage of the “operation” Dionisio was hypnotized by Santos and began to narrate the entire story. He said that “the extraterrestrial beings took out a compact and coherent beam of light, through which they descended as if it were a luminous concrete slab. The woman precedes the men, and they begin to walk to make contact with Dionisio, whom they make the incision in the right hand, in the thumb and index fingers”.
Then they entered the UFO. There Llanca saw “many devices, two televisions, a radio. The radio speaks to me. They tell me not to be afraid, that they are friends, that they have been coming for a long time. They want to know if we can live in their land,” Dionisio said.
Pentothal time
After the hypnosis sessions came the injections of sodium pentothal, known in those years as “truth serum” because it produces relaxation that makes it impossible for the patient to produce fantasies, that is, lie. “Dr. Smirnoff applies intravenous pentothal to the truck driver’s forearm and he repeats (as if it were a broken record) what he had said in the hypnosis sessions,” Zerpa said. Psychological tests and analysis followed in Buenos Aires.
This research was his perfect case for Zerpa and with it he won the award for the best research at the First International Congress of Ufology in Acapulco, Mexico, in 1977.
However, other researchers doubted Dionisio’s testimony. Thus, Guillermo Roncoroni published in 1977, and updated in 1983, a report in which he assures that “there is unequivocal evidence of fraud.” At the end of the text he adds the conclusions of Dr. Solari’s study: “Llanca is not a skilled witness.” The curious thing is that this specialist had been provided by Zerpa himself.
The Calvary
Meanwhile, Dionisio Llanca’s life went into a shadow. Nothing was heard from him for many years and there was speculation about his death. This 2021, Lorena Sciarratta and Marina Giaveno, from the Rosario Ufological Café (CUR), found him and another story began: that of Llanca’s suffering, subjected, according to his testimony, to endless pentothal sessions.
Via Zoom, the former truck driver repeated the story of the abduction and said that with the pentothal injections his life “was an ordeal, I thought I was dying, my skin became like fish scales and fell off.” He added that “they took me to the office and gave me the serum every two or three days. It was the greatest suffering. The injections were tremendous.”
Dr. Smirnoff would later say, also in a conversation with Sciarratta, that “it was not common to use pentothal, but it was one of the possible methods to be able to extract as much information as possible from a person without harming them. It was the first case in which that a witness to something like that was given pentothal.
Smirnoff assured that he regretted “what happened after the sessions he did with me. They undoubtedly did not know how to protect him.”
Doctors Santos and Matta said in Gente that “we do not have any way to prove that he WAS never in a flying object. Nor do we have a technique capable of proving that he WAS. Dionisio Llanca has always told, under hypnosis and pentothal, the same story”. That story, that of his encounter with the beings with blonde hair and silver suits, ended up marking the trucker’s life. For better or worse, Dionisio Llanca will always be the man to whom, in the words of Eduardo Matta, “something fantastic and terrible happened to him.” (DIB) MM
British guest, Richard Rokeby to discuss UFO events in England, plus the event that inspired his book, The Lights Upon the Hills- The Burton Dassett UFO Events of 1923. The encounters were in the Warwickshire countryside where there was great excitement about a series of ghostly looking lights which were witnessed by perhaps hundreds of people. He also discusses black triangle sightings in the Warwickshire area.
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In October of this year, the Royal Canadian Mint announced that it was putting out a coin celebrating a 1970 UFO case from the city of Duncan on Vancouver Island, British Columbia. This is the sixth in a series of the Mint’s Unexplained Phenomena series of 1 oz. $20 face value silver coins depicting famous Canadian UFO cases. The
Duncan incident, involving a sighting by a nurse working in the Cowichan District Hospital, occurred in the midst of a flap in the area. It was investigated by John Magor, editor and publisher of the Canadian UFO Report, and he provided a report to the Victoria Times. The Victoria Times published an article on the case on page 1 of the January 5, 1970 edition (page 10 of the pdf), and Magor published his version in the Volume 1, Number 7, summer issue of the Canadian UFO Report. News of the coin celebrating the incident prompted two men, who were both attending a party in the area at the time, to separately come forward, each with his own individual explanation of what was actually seen. We wrote about this incident in a blog headlined “A UFO and Occupants in British Columbia, Canada,” posted on the Podcast UFO website on July 16, 2022, which is where the description of the incident comes from.
News indicating there was an ongoing flap in the area turns up in the December 22, 1969 edition (page 8 of pdf) of the Victorian Times under the headline “Look Up Islanders, The UFOs Are Watching You.” A sighting by four witnesses in the Ladysmith area is described. Two of the witnesses, Graham Toole, 21, and Albert Birkeland, 22, reported they were driving when they saw an object with three lights, white on top and red on the bottom. Mr. and Mrs. Ray Knight reported seeing what the reporter for the times wrote “must be the same object.” According to the article, they agreed with Toole and Birkeland that it “moved about a mile a second.” Mr. Knight said that he had seen an object in September where “you could see the cabin lights clearly.” The article also describes a “greyish saucer-shaped object with a transparent center” seen by five people over an elementary school in Duncan.
The occupant report came from a nurse, Doreen Kendall, who worked the night shift at Cowichan District Hospital in Duncan. According to Magor’s article (page 4 of pdf) “UFO Occupants Seen Near Hospital” in the Canadian UFO Report, Kendall was checking on an elderly patient in the extended care ward around 5:00 a.m. on January 1, 1970. She turned on a light and went to part the drapes of a nearby window to let in some fresh air. She said that as she pulled the drapes open, “a brilliant light hit me in the eyes.” She said that 60 feet away, there was a large, bright object and that she could see it clearly.
Kendall was on the second floor and said the object, which she described as circular, was just above the children’s ward, which was on the third floor. She said it had a silver, bowl-shaped bottom, a domed top made of some sort of clear glass or plastic that was lit up from the inside allowing her to see into it, and lights around it “like a necklace.”
She said she saw two figures inside that were male-like, one behind the other. She described them this way: “They looked like fine, tall, well-built men. They were dressed in tight-fitting suits of the same (dark) material that covered their heads, but their hands were bare and I noticed how human they looked. Their flesh seemed just like ours.”
She said she never felt so peaceful in her life and wished she could talk to them. She noticed she was seeing more and more of the interior and realized that the craft was tilting.
According to Kendall, the creature in front was looking with intensity at a large instrument panel as if it was dealing with something important. This gave her the impression that they might have been having mechanical problems. She thought they might have landed on the roof of the children’s ward and were having trouble taking off.
According to Magor, Kendall came from a family of racecar enthusiasts, and she thought this might have been why the instrument panel was of particular interest to her. She said there were what looked like instruments of different sizes inset into the chrome-like metal of the panel.
Kendall then remembered her patient, Freida Wilson, whom she had come to check on. She said that, at this point, “I guess I hesitated. I felt I mustn’t make a noise or do anything that would break the trend of what was happening.”
Magor tells the reader that the creature in the back turned and faced her “almost as if her thoughts were being read.” She said she couldn’t see its face because it was covered with “a darkish material that looked softer than the rest of his suit.” She was sure the creature saw her because it turned and touched the back of the creature in the front. The creature in front then grabbed a lever and pushed it “back and forth.” The craft started to circle counter-clockwise and Kendall called to Wilson to come and look.
Magor spoke to Wilson, and she said she came over and saw a bright light about the size of a car. She didn’t see a top or bottom or any of the details described by Kendall. She said the object circled slowly and then moved off. She described it as being too bright to be a plastic bag with candles as some people had reportedly suggested. According to her, “it would take a million candles to make it as bright as that.”
Two other nurses, intrigued by the comments being made by Kendall and Wilson, went and looked out another window. They saw a “bright light” moving off in the distance, and two more nurses who went to look were too late to see anything.
Magor tells the reader that the nurses didn’t go public with their story and that he was alerted to it by a nurse at the hospital who was a friend of his.
After the announcement by the Royal Canadian Mint that they were releasing a coin celebrating the incident, two longtime Duncan residents, 81-year-old Dan Hughes, and 79-year-old Jan White, came forward in the press and claimed they were at the same New Year’s party when a homemade hot-air balloon was released near the hospital.
Hughes’s story appears in the article by Darron Kloster headlined, “Duncan UFO Sighting Depicted on New Coin Was a ‘Party Trick,’” posted on the Vancouver Sun website on November 9, 2023. He is quoted describing the cause of Kendall’s sighting as “a playful party trick that got out of hand and created a kind of hysteria.” According to him, the “party trick” was a creation of friends and fellow musicians, Les and Renee Palmer, made out of a wooden cross with lit candles on the ends under a plastic dry-cleaning bag held on by string. He said the Palmers lived next to the hospital, and with friends around, they inflated the bag with a portable hair dryer and let it go. He explained that dry-cleaning bags at that time had patterns and images that could be mistaken for aliens when seen from a distance.
Hughes said he was hesitant to come forward due to the fact that the sighting had been written about in numerous books and had become a part of Vancouver Island folklore. However, in spite of his professed belief that the whole incident was a hoax, he admitted he ordered a coin for himself the day before. He said, “You never know – they might stop making them when they hear the story now.”
White’s story is presented in the article, also by Darron Kloster, headlined “‘I don’t think they’ll arrest me now:’ Island barber helped make ‘UFO’ that became legendary in Duncan” posted on the Squamish Chief website on November 12, 2023. According to Kloster, White said he knew that Les Palmer had been launching balloons like the one described by Hughes in the previous article, but he explained that the one seen by Kendall was bigger and more elaborate and was actually constructed by himself and a friend, George Halkyard.
Hughes said they took plastic sheets used to separate wood at lumberyards, and he ironed them into a balloon shape while Halkyard built a frame out of aluminum rods to hold a pie plate that they filled with Sterno. According to him, they made eight balloons, some of which they launched from Mount Tolmie, and took one of them to the Palmers’ New Year’s party.
Hughes explained that it was windy and that they set up in the hospital parking lot to use the hospital as a shield. He said that two people held up the plastic while the Sterno was lit and that the plastic “just sort of quivered and it cast shadows all around the balloon.” He said, “It was a pretty spectacular thing because the Sterno really gave it an incandescent glow.” According to Kloster, Hughes “could see why someone from a distance would consider it a very odd sight with shadowy effects.”
Hughes said he and the others thought they should keep quiet so they didn’t get into trouble, but that he was old enough at that point that he didn’t care what people thought. According to him, “More than half a century later and with this coin from the Canadian Mint coming out, it was time for the truth to come out.” There is no mention of White buying a coin.
Introducing UAP Crossfire, Martin Willis with Chris Deperno, Don Ecker and Kevin Randle (filling in for Commander Cobra) talking on Sean Kirkpatrick, AARO and much more. This show airs live weekly on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, and Podcast UFO’s YouTube channel on Thursdays, 8-10PM ET.
Guest Rony Vernet gives his opinion on recent attacks of Peruvian villagers and his research on many encounters with indigenous people of the Brazilian Amazon Rainforest.
Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
This is the third part of a series looking at a case from 1968 that involved sightings of UFOs on October 24, 1968, by ground observers stationed at the ICBM missile complex surrounding Minot AFB in North Dakota. A B-52 was flying in the area, and the pilot was requested to change course and investigate. The result was a UFO encounter that was caught on photographs of the B-52 radarscope, and the pilot, Maj. James A. Partin, and co-pilot, Captain Bradford Runyon, reported that they’d had a visual sighting of the object when it was on the ground. In addition to the sightings, it was reported that the outer and inner perimeter alarms of the missile site designated Oscar-7 went off and that a padlocked entry hatch there was found open with a plug-style gate secured by a combination lock removed from it. The case was officially examined by the officer in charge of UFO investigations at the base who provided details and evidence to Project Blue Book. The Blue Book conclusion was that what was seen was possibly a combination of “anomalous propagation” of radar returns, a plasma ball, and celestial bodies. It was also concluded that the break-in was unrelated. The case lay dormant for 30 years until Runyon contacted the Center for UFO Studies and filled out a sighting report form. The case caught the interest of members of the newly formed Sign Historical Group and they did a thorough investigation that included many interviews with witnesses. They’ve made material they gathered available as part of the Sign Oral History Project on a website devoted to the case. In Part III, we’ll look at the reports by the ground observers.
On the SOHP website, there is a narrative of the events that includes sections specifically detailing the experiences of the people on the ground stationed at various locations throughout the missile complex. According to the narrative, the first sighting reported on October 24, was at 2:15 a.m. by Airman First Class R. McDowell and A1C W. Johnson. They made up a Camper Team which was a security team equipped with a camper truck so they could spend extended periods out in the field, especially in bad weather.
On this occasion, they were providing security for a Target Alignment Team working at a missile site designated Oscar-6. They radioed Staff Sergeant William Smith Jr. at the Oscar-1 Launch Control Facility to report seeing a strange light nearby. In an August 2001 interview with SHG investigators Thomas Tulien and James Klotz, Smith said they reported seeing “a large glowing object go down by some trees not far away.” Smith went outside at 2:30 a.m. and was able to see the light for himself, and he reported this on an AF-117 (Air Force UFO sighting report form) he filled out.
Staff Sergeant William Smith Jr.According to Smith during his interview, he and others had been seeing strange lights for months and just prior to October 24, the activity increased. He described lights being seen that would stop and reverse direction and recalled one of his people saying “those lights– they’re not doing the right things.” He said he called the base to see if they had any helicopters operating in the area and was told they didn’t. Smith said he and others made multiple reports “as we’re supposed to” and that “nothing was done.” He said that at one point, he called the Capsule Crew and said, “Sir, we’re just not happy with what we’re seeing.” He said the response was “Well, just keep them under observation.” Tulien informed Smith at this point that documents show someone in the Control Tower commenting “Those damn missile guys are seeing things again.”
According to the narrative, Smith reported his October 24th observation of the light over Oscar-6 to Technical Sergeant Bowles at the 91st Strategic Missile Wing Security Control at Minot. A captain there who was in charge of the Targeting Team told the Missile Combat Crew Commander at the Oscar Launch Control Center that he felt nervous about having a UFO near an exposed missile and said they could do what they were doing at another time. The Target Alignment Team closed the silo and returned to the base.
Robert O’ConnerA1C Lloyd IsleyThat same night, A1C Robert O’Conner and A1C Lloyd Isley of the 91st Minuteman Maintenance Squadron were driving to November-7, 15 miles WSW of Oscar-6. At 2:30 a.m., when they were five miles north of their destination, they saw what they thought was a light in a farmer’s field. During a February 2005 interview with Tulien, O’Conner said he looked over at it again and saw it rise up and then move parallel with them, staying 30 to 40 feet above the ground. He said the ground below it was illuminated. Isley’s account during his August 2001 interview with Klotz and Tulien matches that of O’Conner’s.
O’Conner said the object would appear to hover or stop when they stopped or turned off their headlights. They became concerned and radioed the base Transportation Control Center to find out if they had any aircraft in the area and they were advised in the negative.
O’Conner said during his 2005 interview that Isley grabbed an axe from the back of the truck “just in case there were some little green men or something,” and said that he, himself, was “totally concerned.”
Both Isley and O’Conner filled out AF-117s and described their sightings. According to Isley on his, when they got to the November-7 site and were out of their truck, they watched the object fly in a circular pattern to the south of them. He wrote, “It came within hearing distance twice. The sound was that of jet engines.” According to him, it stayed in the area for 2 to 3 hours and then moved out of sight in the southeast. Isley couldn’t determine a shape, but he described the object as having lights on the front like the headlights or landing lights of an aircraft, a flashing light in the middle, and estimated that it was the size of a KC-135 tanker plane.
O’Conner wrote that the object “appeared self-luminous like a big ball of white light that seemed to change to a dim green light then later to a dim amber color.” A note below, presumably added by someone at Project Blue Book, reads, “characteristic colors of Sirius.” O’Conner added that the object “seemed to take on the appearance of a stingray fish,” but notes elsewhere that it was too bright for him “to make out any definite shape.” O’Conner said during his 2005 interview that he didn’t hear any sound when it was hovering, “so I knew it wasn’t a helicopter.” He described it as being the size of a B-52.
According to the narrative, their call to the Transportation Control Center was routed to the Base Operations Dispatcher who confirmed there were no aircraft in the area, and he then contacted the Control Tower operator and an open line of communication was established by the controllers at Radar Approach Control (RAPCON) with the people at November-7.
O’Conner was told to continue describing what he was seeing and he kept a log over the next two hours. In his first entry at 3:00 a.m., he describes an object that was too big to be an aircraft moving towards the site with a brilliant sun-like light. He wrote that it “hovered over N-7, turned green, amber off than [sic] on.”
Joseph JablonskiAccording to the narrative, O’Conner unlocked the gate and went down into the Launch Support Building and radioed Flight Security Commander SSgt. James Bond at the November Launch Facility. Security Alert Team member A1C Joseph Jablonski was present and recalled during a February 2005 interview with Tulien that the maintenance team was “hysterical” at that point. According to the narrative, Jablonski and another team member, A1C Gregory Adams, went outside and saw a bright light over N-7, “alternating all kinds of pretty colors.”
SSgt. James BondBond sent Jablonski out to assist the team at November-7 and when they were en route, they observed another similar object. During his interview, Jablonski said he saw lights coming off it that were like smaller craft that moved back and forth. He said there were many of them, more than 10, and that they all faded out along with the bigger light.
According to the narrative, 14 ground observers in scattered locations saw two distinct lights between 3:20 and 3:30 a.m. The Wing Security Controller noted in his summary, “SSgt Smith at Oscar-1 saw the object separate in two parts and go in opposite directions and return and pass under each other. At this time Juliet Flt and Mike Flt Team observed the same things and described it the same way.”
Jablonski recalled in his interview, “And, we got there and they were hysterical, I mean the site was wide open we drove right in.” He said, “When we got there, you know to see a man with that rank running, I mean they were all telling us ‘Shoot it Shoot it!’”
According to Jablonski, when the B-52 crew was called in, it was difficult to provide coordinates because the object would go dark at times and then reappear at a different location.
It seems as if the B-52 possibly encountered a third object, separate from those seen by the ground observers. Jablonski and Bond both wrote in their AF-117s that they saw the light change to a dim green color and then slowly fade out for the last time in the southwest. The visual sighting of the object on the ground was SSE of November-1.
After the B-52 headed back to base, O’Conner and Isley finished their maintenance work at November-7. As they were headed back and passing Oscar-7, O’Conner saw that the overhead security lights were on even though no one was supposed to be there. He saw that the hatch leading down to the missile silo was open and said during his interview that he also saw that the plug had been removed. He then saw a Security Alert Team approaching, so he continued on his way having been through enough already.
According to the narrative, just after the B-52 landed at 4:49 a.m., the Outer Zone and the Inner Zone alarms for Oscar-7 went off at the Oscar Launch Control Center. While animal activity and shifting snow-drifts were known to set off the Outer Zone alarms, having both alarms go off at the same time was very unusual and indicated a break-in.
Smith sent a Security Alert Team to check on the site, and they left armed and prepared for hostility. They found no one there, and Smith went out later that day by himself. During his interview, Smith said that a Lieutenant who was there from Missile Wing Security Control told him they found “a large circular pattern of radiation” in the parking area inside the perimeter.
Martin celebrates his 12th anniversary of Podcast UFO with a call in show, people call in with questions and some interesting encounters.
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In Part I of this blog, we looked at a case from 1968 that involved sightings of a UFO on October 24, 1968, by ground observers stationed at the ICBM missile complex surrounding Minot AFB in North Dakota. A B-52 was flying in the area and the pilot was requested to change course and investigate. The result was a UFO encounter that was caught on photographs of the B-52 radarscope and the pilot, Maj. James A. Partin, and co-pilot, Captain Bradford Runyon, reported that they’d had a visual sighting of the object when it was on the ground. In addition to the sightings, it was reported that the outer and inner perimeter alarms of the missile site designated Oscar-7 went off and that a padlocked entry hatch there was found open with a plug-style gate secured by a padlock removed from it. The case was officially examined by the officer in charge of UFO investigations at the base, Lt. Col. Arthur Werlich. He provided details and evidence to Project Blue Book, and they concluded that what was seen was possibly a combination of “anomalous propagation” of radar returns, a plasma ball, and celestial bodies. They also concluded that the break-in was unrelated. The case lay dormant for 30 years until Runyon contacted the Center for UFO Studies and filled out a sighting report form. The case caught the interest of members of the newly formed Sign Historical Group and they did a thorough investigation that included many interviews with witnesses. They’ve made material they gathered available as part of the Sign Oral History Project on a website devoted to the case. In Part II, we’ll look at the key elements of the case that they uncovered.
RunyonOn February 11, 2000, Bradford Runyon Jr., who was in the right front seat of the B-52 as a pilot-instructor at the time of the encounter, filled out a CUFOS UFO Sighting Questionnaire. According to his handwritten witness account, he requested permission to land at Minot (they had been in the air for about 10 hours) and was asked to check on something nearby. He was given a heading and when he asked what he was looking for he was told he’d know if he found it.
Shortly thereafter, an object appeared on the radarscope heading towards the right rear of the plane. It was moving at high speed, and the crew expected a collision, but it stopped by the right side of the plane and then moved to the left side. They lost radio contact with the base and Runyon made the decision to land. As they headed in, the UFO stayed with them for 10 miles and then broke off and landed. As it did so, their radios came back on. They were told to go back and fly over the object, and when they were over it, the radios stopped working again. Runyon wrote that the radarscope photos showed a return “about five times as large as a KC-135 tanker and a closing rate of 3000 mph.” According to him, people on the ground observed the object along with the plane. This account is close to the account in a Telex sent to Project Blue Book in 1968 by Werlich.
There are poor quality reproductions of the radarscope photos in the Project Blue Book file that show something close to the B-52, and the SHG investigators were able to obtain higher quality prints from Richard Clark, who was a staff sergeant at Minot at the time of the incident. He had two sets up prints made when he was asked to analyze the photos and while he sent one set up the chain of command, he kept a set of 14 prints for himself. According to the investigators, he confirmed the account given by the B-52 crew and determined “that the speed (3900 mph at one point) and the maneuverability of the object were phenomenal.” According to him, “It had to be something other than what we were aware of, you know, I did not think our technology had anything like that as far as capability — so it’s got to be a UFO.” According to the B-52 navigator, Patrick D. McCaslin (USAF, Colonel, ret.), during a phone interview with SHG Investigator Jim Klotz, the return was as big or bigger than that of a KC-135 tanker plane.
One piece of information in Runyon’s account does not appear in the Blue Book file: according to him, he was told at a briefing the next day that a 20-ton lid over a missile silo had been moved. When he was interviewed on May 5, 2000, by SHG Investigators Thomas Tulien and Jan Aldrich, he went into more detail. He said he was told that an alarm had gone off at one of the missile silos and that Air Policemen were sent to check on it. When they didn’t check in, another team was sent. The second group found the first group unconscious around their vehicle, which had the paint on its roof burned off. When they came to, they said that an object came down that they thought was going to crush them, and they ran. Runyon told the investigators that the reason for the alarm was that the 20-ton cover had been moved. He said the chain link fence around the silo had been crushed, that there was radioactivity detected in the area, and that the alarm inside of the silo had been activated as well. Runyon told a similar story during a second interview with Tulien on February 25, 2005, that didn’t include the details about the crushed fence or the radiation.
The investigators were able to determine that the person who briefed the crew members was Brigadier General Ralph T. Holland. They managed to locate him and he was interviewed by Tulien and Klotz on February 20, 2005, just prior to Runyon’s second interview, after first being provided with material they’d gathered up to that point. Holland was 84 years old at the time and couldn’t recall some of the details, but he was sure that no 20-ton missile covers were moved. He told Tulien and Klotz, “Hell, if a lid had moved (laughs) SAC would’ve been down there in two seconds.”
Tulien mentions Runyon after confirming that Holland had read what the crew members said he told them and this exchange follows:
HollandHolland: Yeah, he had the wildest damn story I—
Tulien: Now McCaslin was the navigator, he doesn’t remember as much as Runyon is remembering—
Holland: Yeah Runyon seemed like that he was remembering some things that he had gotten afterwards, you know.
Tulien and Klotz don’t bring up the incident involving the unconscious Air Police group and the burnt paint. Besides Holland, the investigators interviewed the four others who were at the briefing (one crew member, Aircraft Commander Capt. Don Cagle, was not present because he had an interview with Delta Air Lines the next day and wanted nothing to do with a UFO report) and none of them confirmed the details in question.
Runyon also included a description in the CUFOS form of the object seen on the ground by him as they flew over it. He drew a picture of an oval with an anchor-like shape coming off one end. He wrote that the body was “several hundred feet long” and glowed orange like molten steel. He describes that blue, green “and possibly orange lights” came from inside “the crescent moon shaped part.”
Maj. James A. Partin was the only B-52 crew member to fill out an AF-117 UFO report form for Project Blue Book, and on it, he described seeing what “looked like a miniature sun placed on the ground below the aircraft.” He made a tiny drawing of a circle he labeled “orange ball of light” with a faint rounded protuberance coming out the side marked “a very dim ring of soft white light.” During an interview with Klotz on January 20, 2001, he wasn’t able to recall any more details.
Patrick McCaslin, the navigator, recalled during his interview with Klotz on November 11, 2000, that when they flew over the object “there was an expletive from the top, and they
started describing this thing and asking if I wanted to come up and see it.” He said that afterwards someone, possibly Runyon, described the object to him as having an “elliptical shape, kind of a cough drop-shaped thing, glowing orange with a boomerang exhaust, or boomerang shaped exhaust or whatever, and fluorescence off one end the same color…” According to him, nobody saw the object in the air.
While Runyon may have been mistaken in some of his recollections or exaggerated some details, many aspects of the case are corroborated by multiple witnesses. The reports of the B-52 crew indicate that they did encounter something unusual and the radarscope photos provide strong evidence to back up their accounts. The other part of this story is what happened on the ground prior to their encounter.
Next week: The reports from the ground.
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Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Minot Air Force Base EntranceAt the suggestion of Mr. Martin Willis, this week we are looking at a report involving a UFO incident on October 24, 1968, at Minot AFB in North Dakota. It involved sightings reported by ground observers stationed at the surrounding Minuteman ICBM complex as well as the crew of a B-52. What gives this case extra significance is that there are available photos of the B-52 radarscope to back up the crew’s account. There is a Project Blue Book file on the case that contains the conclusion that what was seen was possibly a combination of “anomalous propagation” of radar returns, a plasma ball, and celestial bodies, but an exceptional investigation begun in 2000 by members of the recently formed Sign Historical Group indicates that the incident involved something genuinely mysterious.
RunyonThe case came to the attention of SHG researchers when one of the B-52 crew members, Capt. Bradford Runyon USAF (ret.), contacted the Center for UFO Studies in 2000 and filled out a CUFOS UFO Questionnaire. The researchers, Thomas Tullien, Jan Aldrich, and James Klotz, spent the next several years collecting documentation and interviewing the B-52 crew members, non-crew pilot Major James Partin, and Air Force personnel stationed at Minot. They made the results of their efforts available online as part of the Sign Oral History Project at a site devoted to the case, 24 October 1968-Minot AFB-North Dakota.
This case came at a time when Project Blue Book had just come under scrutiny by the U.S. Congress after scientific consultant J. Allen Hynek had made the suggestion in Michigan that people had been seeing marsh gas (the papers reported he said swamp gas) during a UFO flap around Dexter in March of 1966. Gerald Ford, who was the state representative then and the house minority leader, moved the Armed Services Committee to hold a hearing on April 5, 1966. There to answer questions were Secretary of the Air Force Harold Brown, Project Blue Book Director Hector Quintanilla, and Hynek.
The outcome was that the Air Force was moved to fund a scientific study at the University of Colorado headed by Dr Edward U. Condon. To aid the efforts of what became known as “The Condon Committee,” Air Force Regulation 80-17 was put into place, which required “prompt reporting and rapid evaluation of data for successful identification.” It is stated just after the description that “Strict compliance with this regulation is mandatory.”
The Blue Book file available on the SOHP site has a series of 12 memos between Blue Book, Strategic Air Command, and personnel at Minot AFB that tell a story of the evolution of the Blue Book investigation from the first contact with the Minot AFB UFO investigator, Lt. Col. Arthur J. Werlich.
The first memo is dated 24 October 1968 and describes how Lt. Marano, who wrote the memo, was told by a Foreign Technology Division duty officer that they had gotten a report of “an important UFO sighting” at Minot. Marano wrote that he told Quintanilla about it and then called Werlich. According to him, Werlich hadn’t expected a response that night and described the duty officer as being more excited about the incident than he was. Marano wrote that Werlich conceded that it was an unusual sighting and asked if those at Blue Book “could help him in any way.”
Marano then included the details of the sightings as told to him by Werlich, starting with a brief summation of the encounter by the B-52 crew:
At about 0300 hours local, a B-52 that was about 39 miles northwest of Minot AFB and was making practice penetrations sighted an unidentified blip on their radar. Initially the target traveled approximately 2 1⁄2 mile in 3 sec or at about 3,000 mi/hr. After passing from the right to the left of the plane it assumed a position off the left wing of the 52. The blip stayed off the left wing for approximately 20 miles at which point it broke off. Scope photographs were taken. When the target was close to the B-52 neither of the two transmitters in the B-52 would operate properly but when it broke off both returned to normal function.
WerlichWerlich also described sightings of a bright orange-red object by at least 15 people on the ground around the time of the B-52 encounter. In addition, he said that a security alarm for both the inner and outer ring of one of missile sites had been activated and that the outer door was found open and the combination lock on the inner door had been moved.
According to Marano, Quintanilla told him that the Blue Book staff needed more precise information before they could do anything, and Werlich said he’d get it for them.
Rather than go through all 12 memos individually, we’ll sum them up in a narrative as best we can. On October 28, Col. Weyant from Strategic Air Command HQ called to find out how Blue Book had received the report and who was handling it. He was told that they got the report by phone and that Marano was handling it. That same day, Col. Weyant called back (the memo writer got the name wrong and identified him as “Col. Wyatt.”) and wanted to know if Blue Book personnel ever participated in investigations and was told by Marano that they seldom went out into the field. Marano told him they felt that Werlich was quite competent and didn’t require any assistance from them at that time.
On October 29, Col. Pullen from SAC HQ called and asked for, in Quintanilla’s words, “a brief run-down of the Minot sightings.” Quintanilla told him that the blip on the radar could have been caused by “the aircraft transmission receiver, that there was an inversion, and that people could have been seeing celestial bodies affected by the inversion and “scintillation.” Pullen asked for a preliminary report and Quintanilla told him he needed a more precise timeline from Werlich.
Pullen asked if they had sent anyone to Minot and Quintanilla told him no and explained that he only had four people on his staff including himself, a secretary, an assistant, and an administrative sergeant. Pullen again asked for a preliminary report so that, in Quintanilla’s words, “he could give it to General Stewart to get this thing simmered down.” The memo describing this exchange ends with this: “He requested that Col Quintanilla hit a little heavy on what has happened to other aircraft on occasions like this, this would help play the issue down.”
Marano phoned Minot and spoke with Sgt. Hoy, as Werlich was flying. He requested that Werlich send the navigator go with someone to interview all the observers in order to obtain precise details covering all the circumstances around the sightings and said that Werlich should send those by teletype. He specifically stated that the following was to be sent to them by mail: A map of the area, a map of the flight path of the B-52 from 0258 hours until it landed, AF-117 forms (sighting report forms) from all the observers, and copies of the radarscope photos.
Werlich called and talked to Marano and told him he didn’t see how the navigator could help but said he himself had people fill out the forms while he monitored them and showed them what various angles, 60º, 90º, etc. looked like.
In the course of their conversation, Werlich told him that there were farm fields where the light was seen by observers at the November-7 site and that it could have not be produced by anything on the ground there. He said that other ground observers saw both the B-52 and the light when it was over the same area. He said that Marano would find “that the most information comes from Airman O’Conner and Isley, and an aircraft instructor.”
Marano asked if “it” was going with the wind, explaining that they’d “had trouble with hot air balloons,” and Werlich said the geography of the area made this impossible.
Werlich also said that he wanted to check Oscar-7, the site of the break-in, with a Geiger counter. He said that they’d had three other break-ins over three years by former personnel with keys but that there were no tire tracks, footprints, etc. found at Oscar-7 the next day.
Marano told Werlich “SAC was giving us trouble because they wanted to know what we are doing.” Werlich said that they had asked earlier for “technical assistance” and did what they could when they didn’t get it.
Werlich said he was sending the material requested and described that the blip on the B-52 radar was “a fairly good size blip” and emphasized how unusual the failure of the radio transmitters was. He said it was his opinion that it couldn’t have been a malfunction because they “transmitted before and afterwards.”
Giving an indication of what the conclusion in the Blue Book report would be, Marano explained that there were “many astronomical bodies” in the area that could been magnified by the inversion, and Werlich said there was a “Raggedy Ann” cloud cover and that some observers could see stars and some couldn’t.
The conversation ended with Werlich saying he had done all he could to comply with the regulation and that he was “at the limit of my capabilities.” He said this was his first report and that he didn’t know how to ask questions etc., and he “had spent too much time on it already.” The last two memos describe failed attempts to contact Werlich after several calls.
Other memos reflect SAC’s interest in the case and there is a request that they receive a report as quickly as possible. The conclusions already mentioned put the case to rest for over thirty years, but the investigation by the SHG members revealed some very strange aspects of the case not mentioned in the Blue Book report.
Next week: The SHG investigation.
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Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In 1986, Jim Speiser of Fountain Hills, Arizona, got the urge to create an electronic forum dedicated to a discussion of paranormal topics. He started a BBS (bulletin board system) using six personal computers located at various locations in the U.S. and Canada linked together with a Fidonet system. Speiser called his new BBS “The ParaNet.” In the summer of 1991, there was a “spin-off” of ParaNet named the Multi-national Investigations Cooperative on Aerial Phenomena, and ParaNet published a magazine called Continuum to get their investigations reports out to the public. The first case in the Volume 1, Number 1, September 1991 issue involves an investigation by James Black (who wrote the report) and Robert Atwood of a simple crop circle that formed overnight starting on August 21, 1991, in a cornfield in Iowa that led them to other reports of strange activity in the area. The case became far more complex than a simple crop circle report, and this has ended up becoming a two-part blog. In the first part, we looked at the investigation and three witness accounts, and in the second part, we’ll look at one more account, the conclusions, and the aftermath, which included poltergeist activity reported to have been experienced by a fellow investigator at his home.
In last week’s blog, we looked at Black’s report from his and Atwood’s investigation of a simple crop circle found in a cornfield belonging to Delmar “Snowball” Meyer up to Black’s interview with a witness identified as “M. A.” who reported that she had been seeing UFOs while driving in the area since an encounter with what Black described as a “classic flying saucer” in November 1990. She said that after that, she had seen a light three or four times that she thought was the same craft and decided to ignore it because of the ridicule she was getting from her friends.
- A. reported that two weeks before the crop circle was formed she saw a light in the sky and sent this angry thought out to it: “If you’re for real why don’t you land? Give me some proof.” She thought this may have been the reason for the crop circle’s formation and said that on the night the crop circle was formed, she saw a light descend in Meyer’s cornfield. She said she woke up the next morning with a headache and a back ache, and she said her housemate told her she had come home extremely late, which surprised her because she thought it hadn’t been much past 1:00 a.m.
According to Black, the last witness he spoke with was a divorced woman who lived with her parents and worked the second shift at a factory. She is identified as “S. S.,” and Black says she told him she had been seeing lights in the sky in the Blue Grass area for the last two years, mostly in the autumn, and that last autumn, they stopped appearing. She said she would be on the road late at night after work and that the lights would frequently follow her home. On some nights, she would see lines of cars parked on the side of Highway 61 with the people in them watching the lights maneuvering in the sky.
According to Black, S. S. described the lights as being “like a star,” but different, and that sometimes, they would drop down and move across the fields. She said there were times when they followed her home that they seemed to be “in distress.” On these occasions, they displayed contrails and seemed to have difficulty keeping up with her.
She said they often travelled as a pair made up of a large white light that would stay north of Highway 61, and a small red light that would come across the highway and sometimes descend into the fields near her home, where it would stay, giving her the impression that it was watching her.
According to Black, S. S. had “apparently” had at least two close encounters, which were described to him by MUFON Investigator Grey Woodman: one in Davenport, Iowa, in 1980 when a bright light came towards her car and time seemed to slow down, and another one two years before when her boyfriend called her outside to witness a huge stingray-shaped object moving over her house that she said was so low that she could have climbed up to it if a ladder had been dropped down.
According to Black, in 1991, S. S. saw the lights again at 9:30 p.m. on the Wednesday that the circle formed in Meyer’s field. She said they were again on the north side of Highway 61.
Black describes S. S. as also being a subject of ridicule and says she had been told she should get together with M. A. According to him, she was less bothered by it than M. A.
In his discussion about how the crop circle might have formed, Black considers the possibility that it was hoaxed. He bases this on the facts that artificial lighting was unnecessary as it was formed on a moonlit night, and that it formed between two rows of corn.
Arguing against a hoax, Black presents these aspects: the circle was perfectly round to within 1% of the radius; the corn stalks were laid down at perfect right angles to the radius; there was no abrasion on the stalks, damage to the leaves, and no ears were detached; weeds and grass inside the circle were not trampled; and there were no footprints or indication of a central stake that pointed to “human intervention.”
Black says he discussed the possibility of weather causing the circle with Meyers and another farmer, “J. H.,” and that both said that they had never seen wind cause corn to lay down in a circle. They said that when it did blow down the stalks, they would be in a straight line and damaged.
According to Black, the idea of a “plasma vortex” causing the circle was an attractive one. He explains that “this little-understood phenomenon allegedly forms near-perfect spheres within which the kinds of high winds required by this case occur.” He rules this out due to another circle they heard about in Milan, Iowa, that measured 46.5 feet ± 2 inches just like the one in Meyer’s field. He says the idea of a natural phenomenon creating two circles approximately 10 miles apart over two successive summers with exactly the same diameter seemed unlikely and indicated that some sort of intelligence, “human or otherwise,” was responsible. Black points out, however, that the Milan circle was swirled clockwise, the opposite of the Blue Grass circle, and the stalks were broken at the base instead of being uprooted.
Black emphasizes this about the Blue Grass circle: whatever caused it only affected the corn. According to him, all other plants (and previously broken stalks) remained upright, which ruled out a broad means of flattening such as plywood or a landed flying saucer.
In the section headed “Discussion: Similarities to Other Cases,” Black describes the Blue Grass crop circle case as “classic” although he includes aspects of what defines a classic crop circle case that may not be familiar to most readers. He points out that it formed on a Wednesday, “when the plurality of UFO sightings occur,” and in a spot where it was likely to get attention. He quotes John Keel who wrote in his 1970 book, UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse, that UFOs “prefer to land in the fields of occupied farms and on major highways close to big cities.”
Black also says that the case reminded him of a case called “the Kathie Davis case” in Budd Hopkins’s 1987 book, Intruders: The Incredible Visitations at Copley Woods, mainly due to M. H.’s complaints of physical ailments after her encounter and the possibility that she had missing time.
In the section headed “Aftermath,” Black reports that the mayor of Blue Grass went up in a small plane to look at the circle and spotted a second circle in another of Meyer’s fields. Black describes that this one had stalks that were broken between 4 and 6 inches above the ground, and says that this is what one would expect with a hoax. Meyers offered the opinion that it was created by pranksters after news of the first circle got out.
According to Black, he and Atwood chose not to investigate the second circle but did intend to follow up with the two women and try to find others who had had sightings as they were convinced they had “just scratched the surface.”
Black then asks, “Meanwhile, what of the investigators themselves?” He quotes John Keel again from his book: “Within a year after I launched my full-time UFO investigating effort … the phenomenon had zeroed in on me.” Black reports that nothing, or almost nothing, like that has happened to them.
Black then describes calling another researcher on Friday after getting back from Blue Grass and giving him details of the case. He adds that he allowed him to record the call. According to him, the other researcher called him on Sunday and reported “poltergeist-style poundings on the outside wall of their apartment building.” He says that “to top it all off,” when the other researcher played back the tape for him of their phone conversation on Friday “it was filled with a background chorus of moaning and howling right out of The Exorcist.”
In Black’s conclusion, he points out that this case “seems to have something for everybody” with the exception of a dead cow. He says he saw no signs of deception in the witnesses and was “inclined to believe them.”
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Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In 1986, Jim Speiser of Fountain Hills, Arizona, got the urge to create an electronic forum dedicated to a discussion of paranormal topics. He started a BBS (bulletin board system) using six personal computers located at various locations in the U.S. and Canada linked together with a Fidonet system. People would dial a number that would access a computer through a modem, and they could read and post messages and access files. Speiser called his new BBS “The ParaNet.” In the summer of 1991, there was a “spin-off” of ParaNet named the Multi-national Investigations Cooperative on Aerial Phenomena, and ParaNet published a magazine called Continuum to get their investigations reports out to the public. The first case in the Volume 1, Number 1, September 1991 issue involves an investigation of a simple crop circle in a cornfield in Iowa that led researchers to other reports of strange activity in the area. The case became far more complex than a simple crop circle report, and this has ended up becoming a two-part blog. In the first part, we’ll look at the investigation and three witness accounts, and in the second part we’ll look at one more account, the conclusions, and the aftermath, which included poltergeist activity reported to have been experienced by one investigator at his home.
In Continuum, the case, number PN-91-0001, is presented in a report format. The author of the report is James Roger Black, who was a principle investigator along with Robert W. Atwood. Both were residents of Iowa City, Iowa. According to Black, Atwood called him and told him about a crop circle in a cornfield in Blue Grass, Iowa, owned by Delmar “Snowball” Meyer. Atwood heard about it from a co-worker who was Meyer’s son-in-law. Black, together with Atwood, drove to the farm at 5:30 p.m. on Friday, August 23, 1991, (coincidentally, the first day the public was able to access the World Wide Web) and met Meyer, a 57-year-old former marine, who was at the circle with some friends when they arrived.
According to Black, Meyer had first noticed the circle the day before, Thursday, at 6 p.m. as he was driving on adjacent Coon Hunter Road. Meyer thought it must have been formed overnight starting on Wednesday. He reported it to the Scott County Sheriff’s Department at 7:06 p.m. according to the police report. He told Black and Atwood that he’d never had problems with trespassers or troublemakers and was, in Black’s words, “completely baffled by the whole thing.”
That morning, people from the local TV station, KWQC, came to the farm to do a story for their noon report. The report prompted neighbors to stop by and see the circle for themselves, and this resulted in three distinct trails through the field. Meyer said he examined the field just after finding the circle and found no trails or footprints at that time.
Black describes the corn stalks as being swirled around the center counter-clockwise at right angles to the radius. They only saw four broken stalks, and the rest were pushed over with the roots pulled out on the upper side and still in the ground on the lower. The ones that were broken were broken just above the roots.
They measured the diameter and came up with 46.5 feet ± a couple of inches. An officer from the sheriff’s department told them he had seen no evidence of any sort of pole being driven into the center.
According to Black, the field was covered in a fine dust, and while they found they could walk carefully with flat-soled shoes and not leave a mark, people wearing field boots left footprints wherever they went.
Black says that when they were headed for the field, they noticed a small herd of cattle. They asked Meyer if there had been any missing or mutilated cattle in the area, and he said he wasn’t aware of any.
Black describes a steady stream of friends and neighbors during the two hours they were there. They talked with some of them and got the names of three people who had reported strange events in the area on Wednesday night, and they spoke with them on the phone over the next few days.
One man they spoke with, identified as “J. H.,” was a farmer located 3/4 of a mile northwest of Meyer’s farm. He reported that on Thursday morning, between 2:00 a.m. and 3:00 a.m., he heard a rumbling sound unlike anything he’d heard before but thought it might be a tractor-trailer having trouble. He said the sound came from the southeast and that he “could have kicked himself” for not looking out the window.
The next witness was a 46-year-old woman, identified as “M. A.,” who lived with her husband, an ex-fireman who lost his legs on the job, her mother, and “C. S.” who helped her look after her husband. “M. A.,” is described as having never had any psychic or occult experiences and as having an actual aversion to the UFO subject. She is quoted as saying, “whenever someone would mention them I’d get up and walk away.”
- A. claimed to have been seeing UFOs in the area since 1990 when she saw a strange light in the sky while driving with her mother. She said it came towards them and stopped 150 feet over their car. She couldn’t hear any noise, and she stopped the car and turned off the engine. She checked with her mother and verified they were both seeing the same thing which was, in Black’s words, “a classic flying saucer.”
She described it as having a silver-colored metallic skin, windows that were small and square “like bathroom windows,” a searchlight on a pole on top, white lights around the rim, and multi-colored lights underneath. Through the windows, she saw what looked to her like “a computer room.” Black notes that her husband ran a bulletin board system in their home “so the computer metaphor would come naturally to her.”
She said she heard no noise and described the scene as “peaceful.” She said she was terrified at first but that “some kind of force” took her fear away. According to her, she observed the craft calmly for ten minutes, then started the engine and drove away, and at the same time, the craft took off and went out of sight.
- H. said she had seen a light moving in the distance three or four times since, which she thought might be the same craft. She said she became disgusted and made the decision to ignore it because of the ridicule she was receiving from her friends. She told the investigators that a couple of weeks before the crop circle formed, she saw “the light” again and became extremely angry. She said she sent out this thought to the craft: “If you’re real, why don’t you land? Give me some proof.” She believed that this might have been why the crop circle formed in Meyer’s field.
According to Black, M. H. was driving east on Highway 61 around 1:00 a.m. on Thursday morning after leaving a friend’s house. She saw the light over Meyer’s bean field and decided to ignore it. She turned south onto Coon Hunter Road and saw that the light was following her. She watched it in her rear-view mirror and saw it descend into Meyer’s corn field. She continued home and didn’t say anything about it to anyone.
According to Black, M. H. woke up on Thursday morning with a backache, a headache, and one of her ears hurt, and she attributed all this to “sleeping on it wrong.” She took aspirin and by the end of the day, the pain was gone, but her back felt uncomfortable. She was told by C. S. that she had come home extremely late, and this confused her because she didn’t think it had been much past 1:00 a.m.
- H. saw the noon report on KWQC and when she heard it reported that a circle had formed in Meyer’s field on Thursday night, she immediately drove to the farm partially with the intention of correcting the reporters. When she arrived, she found that the crew was still there and she told them that the circle had formed on Thursday morning (Wednesday night in her mind), but they stuck to their version until Meyer stepped in and backed her up.
According to Black, Meyer invited her to see the circle, and she went with him but couldn’t bring herself to go inside of it. She said she became quite scared and felt like she was “not invited.” She was afraid that something would happen if she stepped inside, but she didn’t know what.
Black describes M. H.’s life as becoming difficult after her first encounter, in part due to the ridicule she received, and that she attempted to “push it away.” He says she didn’t know if she believed in UFOs and asked him several times if he thought she was crazy and was relieved when he told her there were many others who reported similar experiences. She said she still had no interest in UFOs other than how they directly affected her, and she didn’t want to hear about the experiences of others because she didn’t “want to start imagining things.” She only wanted to know the answers to three questions: How was her fear taken away during her first encounter? Why was she scared to enter the crop circle? Why was she chosen to witness the sequence of strange events? She said that once these questions were answered, she never wanted to hear about UFOs again.
Next week: A witness with more strange encounter reports, a discussion, a paranormal aftermath, and conclusion
Randall Nickerson speaks for a few minutes on Dallyn’s claims, in Netflix’s Encounters Series (see show notes), our main guest, Dan Warren is an engineer by trade, and was drawn at first to the UFO phenomenon by the nuts and bolts, but discovered a broad array of less tangible intellectually stimulating head scratchers that continues to confuse, confound, and fascinate. He discusses how he deep dives into the topic.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In 1975, after the Travis Walton Incident on November 5, because of the attention it received in the press and among the UFO community, there were two flaps in Florida that fell through the cracks and have all but been forgotten. The first one was in the area of Miami- Dade County that started on the same day as the Walton incident, and the second was a little over a month later around 50 miles south of Jacksonville in the small farming community of Hastings. The Miami-Dade reports received a good amount of local press, as did the Hastings reports. The Hastings reports were looked into by the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, and there is an article on the case in the January 1976 APRO Bulletin.
The Hastings flap got started on November 5, with sightings reported by six Highway Patrol Troopers in Miami. There is an article (page 12 of pdf) by Ian Glass describing the reports headlined “Troopers Spot ‘Flying Objects’ Over Miami” in the November 5, 1975 issue of The Miami News. According to Glass, troopers in different parts of the county reported seeing as many as five “mysterious flying objects.” Trooper Thomas Leis, who spotted three objects at 4:39 a.m., is quoted as saying, “I’m not going to say they were UFOs, but they were certainly unnatural phenomena.” Leis said he watched two of the objects for around 90 minutes and a third one that disappeared before the others. He described them as having flashing red and blue lights that alternated, and one white light that was constant. He said he radioed patrol headquarters and was told that another trooper, John Lelikis had seen what he had as well as two additional objects near the airport. Four other troopers also said they’d seen the objects. Leis said there were as many as five altogether.
Drawing 3An article (page 11 of pdf) by Bob Getz in the November 6, 1975 Boca Raton News headlined “UFOs Spotted in Area” has the name of another witness, Leslie A. Butcher, who said that he and his wife saw red, green, and white lights east of Boca at around 4:00 a.m. on November 5. He said the lights were as bright as a magnesium fire. According to Getz, seven people in the area reported seeing an extremely bright oval object that was blue-white, much like the color of a welder’s arc, just before dawn on November 7.
In the November 8, 1975 Miami Herald, there is an article (page 11 of pdf) headlined “Callers Describe Quiet UFOs.” According to the article: “Police dispatchers in West Palm Beach and Lake Worth late Friday reported a flurry of breathless phone callers, all describing flashing ovals hovering over eastern skies.” A Lake Worth policeman said that one man called saying he saw what seemed to be portholes, “but he wouldn’t give his name, because he said his neighbors were already laughing at him.”
Drawing 5 APROThe Hastings reports got started at around 7:00 p.m. on December 12, 1975. According to APRO Field Investigator Jim Jones in his article, “Repeating Reports in Florida,” on the front page of the January 1976 APRO Bulletin, Patricia Beck Goodman was on her way home on State Road 13 about two miles south of Hastings when she saw an object described as about 30 feet long, 10 feet high on one end, and 25 feet high on the other. It’s said to have glowed “with a luminescence like a t.v. screen when the set was [sic] been turned off,” and to have been “ringed with bright red and orange lights around the edges.” Goodman is said to have watched the object, which seemed to be hovering in the sky, for about 10 minutes before losing sight of it as she went around a turn.
Drawing 3Jones reports that at 9:30 p.m. in Hastings, Richard and Betty Beck, along with their 20-something daughters, Patricia and Sandra, observed a pulsating, glowing saucer-shaped object, as large as a DC-8, with bright orange-red lights around its edges. According to the report, they moved towards it as it came down behind some trees, with the idea that it might be a plane going down. When they got within 200 yards, the object went dark as if something had been switched off, and then something lit up a quarter mile away “which was described as a huge fire explosion with no noise.” The light is said to have remained for a few minutes before suddenly going dark.
The next report describes a sighting at 11:00 p.m. by Marcus Barnes, who was on State Road 13 southeast of Hastings, heading for his hunting camp. He is said to have seen what seemed to be the woods on fire, which turned out to be bright red-orange and amber lights “coming from what looked like windows, [sic] in the side of a dome shaped [sic] object, [sic] behind the trees.” According to the report, when he got to the hunting camp, 10-12 others told him about lights they had been seeing throughout the night.
Charlotte Shearer is described as having seen something similar at 10:45 p.m. about 15 miles southeast of Hastings. According to the report, she saw a dome-shaped object about 200 feet in the air, which she first thought was a house on fire. She described it as looking like a castle in the air with every widow lit and Jones reports that within 15 minutes, “the lights just flipped off and nothing could be seen.”
The next report, dated December 13, 1975, is another one involving Marcus Barnes who is said to have been headed home with his wife, Edith, after closing their restaurant in Hastings. According to the report, on State road 13, just before they got to their house in the 10,000 acres area, they saw the same sort of lights Barnes had seen before. They headed towards the lights, and when they got to within a quarter mile of them, the lights switched off. The Barneses turned around to continue back towards their home, the lights came back on, and they turned around again and followed them.
They described seeing a dome-shaped object 300 to 400 feet in diameter, 75 to 100 feet high, with possibly 8 rows of windows radiating intense, pulsating, fire-orange lights. As it drifted back and forth, lighting up an area of several hundred yards, they followed it as far as they could, which was about 10 miles, on dirt roads. According to the report, it stayed a quarter to a half mile in front of them, and when they could go no further, they watched as it moved off towards the south and went out of sight behind some trees.
The next sighting report described by Jones was featured in many of the local papers, along with some other reports that same night, December 14, 1975, that Jones didn’t cover. According to Jones, at 9:10 p.m., Larry and Mary Ellen Masters were having an oyster roast at their farm on State Road 13 with their friends, Leighton and Tedra Middleton and 3 children aged 10, 11, and 13, when they saw what looked like a house on fire around one mile away towards the 10,000 acres below the tree line. As they watched, a huge dome-shaped object with lit up widows, like the one described in the previous reports, rose up, hovered for several minutes above the trees, and then went back down again. Mrs. Middleton ran inside to call the St. Johns County Sheriff’s Department and the two men ran to a truck and then drove towards the object.
When the men got to where the object was, it rose up again until three rows of windows were above the trees. It then went back down again, and this time, all the lights switched off. Nothing more was seen of it by any of the witnesses.
The two men had access to a crop-dusting helicopter and within fifteen minutes were in the air. They traversed the area but saw nothing unusual. A ground-air search was conducted the next day “by units of the Florida Highway Patrol, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Department, Flagler County and Putnam County Sheriff’s Departments, with nothing out of the ordinary being seen.”
The last sighting described by Jones is that of Donna Scranton. According to the report, that same night at 9:15 p.m., Scranton came home to find four family members standing on the back porch looking up at a group of 10-12 fire-colored lights that she estimated were about 1000 feet above them. They are described as having been the size of a basketball held at arm’s length.
The December 14th sightings were reported extensively in several local papers including the Palatka Daily News, the Daytona Beach News, the Florida Times-Union, and the St. Augustine Record. An article in the December 16, 1975 Palatka News headlined “UFO Sighting Has Residents Buzzing” by Kathy Kelly and Marvin Clegg focuses almost entirely on the sighting at the Masters’s farm and contains additional details. These include Larry Masters recalling that the family hunting dogs “started raising the roof” before the lights were seen and that a total of six children (ages 10-13) who saw the UFO were put into separate rooms and told to draw what they had seen. The drawings are said to have been similar.
Four drawings, that are indeed similar, three by the children and one by Leighton Middleton, were published along with the article headlined “No Clues on the County Sighting” in the December 17, 1975 Orange Park, Florida, Clay Today.
Martin talks about the Shag Harbour Expo, guest Jim Quirk talks about his own amazing encounters, and how he believes there is a bit of UFO gaslighting going on with our government and talks about breaking down current events and his opinions of what he thinks is really happening.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
George Knapp (left)Recently, on July 26, KLAS Chief Investigative Reporter George Knapp attended the House Oversight Committee hearing on UFOs. He submitted a written statement describing his interest in and involvement with the subject that was read into the record. A part of his statement that has made headlines is a description of an incident involving UFOs over a Russian ICBM base in Ukraine that seemingly took control of the base launch system. He said this story was to him by a man he described as the director of Russia’s official UFO investigation, Col. Boris Sokolov. According to Knapp, the study lasted ten years, “and was likely the largest UFO investigation ever undertaken.” As this is now in the historical record, it might be of interest to know how Knapp got in touch with Sokolov and consider how accurate his information might have been.
Known hoax, image for story purposesAccording to Knapp’s statement, his interest “in UFO secrecy” began in 1987, and in 1989, he “started hearing seemingly-outlandish tidbits regarding crashed saucers, strange materials, and reverse engineering programs being carried out in secrecy in the Nevada desert by intelligence operatives and defense contractors.”
Knapp wrote that the first person he shared his information with was Nevada Senator Harry Reid, and that this was the beginning of “a private, two-way conversation that continued for the next three decades.”
Another person Knapp says he spoke with was Robert Bigelow, founder/director of the National Institute for Discovery Science. According to him, they both had an interest in Russian UFOs, and in 1993, because of Glasnost, “there was a brief window of opportunity” for Western journalists to learn about subjects that were previously off-limits.
According to Knapp, Nikolai Kapronov, a Russian physicist, was in the U.S., and with the assistance of former U.S. Congressman Jim Bilbray, Knapp was able to meet him to talk about “arms control issues and nuclear detente at our national laboratories and nuclear weapons facilities.” He took the opportunity to ask Kapronov if he would be willing to find high-ranking people in the U.S.S.R. who had a knowledge of official Russian involvement in UFO research and investigation. He was willing and after 8 months, with an itinerary and an official invitation from Moscow, Knapp left for Russia along with two colleagues.
Knapp’s trip to Russia is described by one of his colleagues, Bryan Gresh, in the article (page 8 of the pdf) headlined “Soviet UFO Secrets” published in the Summer 1994 Flying Saucer Review Vol. 39, No. 2. According to Editor Gordon Creighton, the article first appeared in the October 1993 MUFON UFO Journal.
Gresh describes their Russian hosts as warm and friendly, and begins the article this way: “No meeting was ever complete without food.” According to him, they were in Russia for 10 days in March, and among the people they spoke with were: the head of the ongoing study of UFOs by the Ministry of Defense, “one of the architects of the Russian ‘Star Wars’ program,” and “a Russian scientist with first-hand knowledge of the reported crash of a UFO near Roswell, New Mexico, in 1947.”
Gresh describes them meeting Kapronov during a lecture tour he was on in the U.S. and learning that he and his fellow scientists, as well as members of the KGB and military, had talked among themselves about the UFO subject “for years.” Gresh and Knapp, who teamed up to produce a series of UFO documentaries (UFOs: The Best Evidence) set Kapronov up in Moscow with an office and a salary and asked him to find whatever “hard information” he could. Their initial thought was that they might be able to find information about American UFOs that the Russians had that might be under lesser security constraints than the same information in the U.S.
According to Gresh, in their search for “a treasure trove of UFO secrets,” retired Russian colonel, Boris Sokolov, was “one of the bigger gems.” Sokolov is said to have run a ten-year official study of UFOs, and according to him, “the entire Soviet Union became one gigantic UFO listening post” after an order came down from the Ministry of Defense that every military unit was to report all UFO sightings. According to Gresh, all reports ended up with Sokolov.
Sokolov said there were 40 cases of military pilot UFO encounters. According to him, they were initially commanded to pursue and shoot all UFOs, but after three crashes and two pilot deaths, they were told to avoid engaging with them. He said the pilots reported that the UFOs seemed to know how far to push the Soviet aircraft to where the pilot would lose control, and they saw them as a threat. Sokolov explained that the military was interested in UFOs as a possible source of advanced technology that could give them an edge against Russia’s adversaries.
According to Gresh, “October 5, 1983, is a date Sokolov will long remember.” Gresh then relates this story as told by Sokolov: On the aforementioned date, he was ordered to go to an ICBM base in Ukraine to investigate a report from the day before by the base commander that a UFO had been seen over the base between 4:00 p.m. and 8:00 p.m. During this period, the lights on the control panel lit up, and the launch codes were enabled. They got an order to prepare to launch, and fortunately, they didn’t. According to Gresh, six years later, in Soviet Military Review, Soviet military leaders made an argument that the Soviet Union should exchange information with the West in order to prevent a UFO-triggered nuclear exchange.
Another person Gresh says they spoke to was Rimili Avramenko, a scientist who worked on “Russia’s version of SDI.” Gresh says that Avramenko had a security clearance level so high that, “for much of his life,” he couldn’t use his real name when publishing papers. According to Gresh, he told them that by exchanging information with aliens, a plasma beam weapon was developed, which he referred to as “the weapon of the aliens.”
Gresh speculates that it was quite likely that Russian spies were in New Mexico in 1947 due to the atomic research going on there. He says that the next person they interviewed “made it seem apparent that, even in the 40s, the Russians weren’t buying the weather balloon explanation being proffered to the American people at the time by the US military.”
Gresh identifies that person as Valeriy Burdokov and says he told them about his acquaintance with the founder of the Russian space program, Sergei Koralyov, who, knowing of his UFO interest, confided in him and told him a story. According to Gresh, Koralyov told Burdokov that Stalin had called him to meeting in 1948 and brought him into a room where there “were piles of material and information collected during a top-secret study,” and that some of it came from New Mexico. According to him, Stalin asked him what he thought of the report of a crashed UFO near Roswell. He said he told Stalin that he’d need to take the material and study it for two days and that he’d then come back with an answer. He then said he was told he’d have to work in the room, which he did, and when he was done he told Stalin that the UFO phenomenon was real and that they weren’t made by the U.S. or any other country. He said that Stalin thanked him and said that many other specialists shared his opinion.
Burdokov is quoted expressing his views of the U.S. involvement with UFOs:
We know the United States Air Force possesses plenty of material. The U.S. Navy has a big amount as well. We know that special orders have been given to keep all materials secret. When curious people ask for the materials they are told they’re not there, that they’ve been destroyed.
Gresh ends the article hopeful that with the “new” Russia, there will be new opportunities for Russian and American UFO researchers to cooperate. According to him, an agreement was signed between their company and the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences “to establish a joint American-Russian research institute to foster the exchange of information between both sides.”
An article by Matthew Bodner headlined “Little Green Men: A Look at the Official Soviet X-Files Investigation” posted on March 31, 2016, on the website of The Moscow Times provides a different perspective. According to Bodner, the largest official Soviet UFO investigation was managed by the Defense Ministry and Academy of Sciences, was known in government circles as “The Network,” was started in 1978, ran for 13 years, and was headed by astrophysicist Yuly Platov.
According to Platov, they began their investigation with the help of private Russian researchers, primarily Felix Zigel, who was, in Bodner’s words, “considered by many followers to be the founding father of Russian UFO studies.” According to Platov, Zigel’s reports were all unverified witness accounts which Platov’s group was unable to validate. He said, “When he realized that we weren’t obsessed by looking for little green men, he drifted away.”
Bodner spoke with Joseph Kellner, “an academic specializing in the Russian UFO movement,” who described the efforts of the amateur investigators as “romantic” and rooted in a “suspicion of the academic mainstream.”
Daniel Galaydow, the official UFO correspondent for the Vechernyaya Moskva newspaper, added that a lot of their understanding of UFOs comes from “Western UFO mythology.” According Bodner, Galaydow “is skeptical of many reports from the 1990s, suspicious that jobless military and intelligence officers were creating stories to conform to Western UFO traditions, and then selling them to foreign UFO researchers.”
First time guest, Melissa Tittl talks about UFO investigations, her movie Code 12, as well as her intense media background and a few interesting cases while co-hosting of with Ben Hansen in the series, UFO Witness and much more.
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Irena, Philip & Martin pay tribute to friend, Calvin Parker (1954-2023) of the 1973 Pascagoula Abduction Incident. We also discuss a recent book with over 40 other witnesses to the even, “Beyond a Reasonable Doubt”, with a forward by Calvin. For those new to the UFO topic, you can skip to 0:18:50 to hear a nutshell description of the event, or our blog by Charles Lear, who covers it well HERE. The book recently releases is: BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT: The Pascagoula Alien Abduction
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The Everything Else Show guest, Nelson Dellis discusses remote viewing, his extreme adventure on Mt Everest and what it is like to be a 5-time US Memory Champion. He explains what Remote Viewing is, and is not. He also goes into some memory tips and when challenged at the end of the show, he memorizes a deck of cards live. This is the part that you may want to watch on video 1:07:00
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Guest, Jay Christopher King was also at the DC UAP Hearing, we discuss opinions on that, The Experiencer Group, which he co-founded to help fellow experiencers of anomalous phenomena, his own experiences starting at a young age, and more. Support the show and listen commercial free: https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO Show Notes
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”In the November 1978 Vol. 24, No. 3, Flying Saucer Review, there is an article (page 9 of pdf) by W. K. Allan headlined, “The Fort St. James Sightings,” that details Allan’s investigation of a case in British Columbia, Canada, along with the editor of the Canadian UFO Report, John Magor. Allan describes becoming interested in the case upon seeing a report (page 2 of pdf) headlined, “Possible Canadian Abduction,” in the March 1977 APRO Bulletin. According to Allan, he and Magor travelled, along with their wives, to Fort St. James to interview the witness, who identifies himself as Kirk Alore in the transcription of his story as told on tape. His account includes what seems to be a period of missing time, and this is likely what led the APRO investigator, Michael Sinclair, to consider that Alore might have been abducted. As they looked into the case further, they encountered some problems with Alore’s story but got corroboration from his parents. Read more →
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After 30 years of silence, Calvin Parker reached out to us because of a blog by Michael Lauck wrote on the incident, which was on the podcastufo.com website. Calvin Parker, November 2, 1954 - August 24, 2023 (A Calvin Parker Tribute Show is upcoming Sept 19, with Philip Mantle & Dr Irena Scott).
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This is an exclusive discussion and only the second interview of former Marine, Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt. After gaining Jonathan’s confidence, I asked him if I could talk about the incident as it was timely, he agreed, but said he had nothing to add from his first interview. Jonathan was deployed to Peru and part of “Operation Laser Strike” in 1997, while on a recovery mission of what was thought of as a friendly aircraft crash, they came upon an unusual teardrop shaped craft, not of this world, wedged in rocks, apparently damaged by a H.A.W.K. missile, and there were some beings involved. Armed men in black camouflage (with no insignia) showed up and aggressively took over the scene. He was shackled, taken away told not to speak about what he witnessed. He persisted talking about it to fellow servicemen and paid the consequences for that.
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On location in Cincinnati at the 2023 MUFON Symposium where I speak with Brazilian UFOlogist, Thiago Luiz Ticchetti about his sighting at an early age and his passion for UFO research, we talk about the Varginha UFO Incident and many more. MIKE MASTERS on the second part of the show discusses his theories and arguments […]
Guest, Keith Taylor, having an extensive law enforcement background, discusses his goal of the future incident response with people who have anomalous encounters, as well as mentioning historic cases including law enforcement, and much more. (this show is dedicated to Lee Speigel) Support the show and listen commercial free: https://www.patreon.com/MartinWillisPodcastUFO SHOW NOTES
The first half of the show is with James Fox on what he has been up to as well as his thoughts on current UFO/UAP events, then Dean Alioto on the second half of the show to check in and discuss what is going on with his UAP/UFO/Experiencer filmmaking and more. Support the show and […]
Guest, Bob Spearing to discuss his role investigating UFOs, some interesting cases, and the history of people reporting balls of light over the centuries. He also discusses the types of craft that have been reported, including some strange ones. Show Notes
Guest, Chris Bledsoe is featured in this evening's (August 1st) Beyond Skinwalker Ranch, on HISTORY Channel, 10/9c. Chris discusses what happened during his first encounter in 2007, and how things have been documented over the years, and scientific study of his uncanny ability to summon something unknown.
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Chris Lehto going over what happened during the hearing, clips with Tim Burchett, and more.
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Martin met up with F-16 Fighter Pilot (ret), Chris Lehto on location at the Nation's Capitol, Washington, DC and they discuss what we may expect for tomorrow's (July 26th) hearing. During the show, Rep Tim Burchett tweeted that he was told he would not be chairing the hearing.
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Guest, Paul Ascough discusses several of his lifetime sightings, and his book, UFOs -The Real Story (Revised Edition 2023) which looks at the bigger picture with all of its complexities, with expanded explanations of why we see and experience what we do and is interlaced with many of the authors own sightings throughout his life.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In last week’s blog, we looked at the cottage industry that grew up around the Roswell incident. We noted that people continue to cash in on it by coming up with “new evidence” that is promised to be “the smoking gun” that ultimately fails to live up to that promise. In a pattern that has continued for decades, once one piece of “evidence” is knocked down, another one pops up in its place. This happened fairly recently in the case of the “Roswell Slides,” which were said to be pictures of an alien recovered from Roswell, but turned out to be pictures of a mummified two-year-old boy. One of the people involved, Anthony Bragalia, made his apologies and then got right back out there with more “new evidence.”
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We are honored to host guest, Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, US Navy(ret) who discusses the UAP/USO phenomenon. Admiral Gallaudet has a scientific expertise and authority to The White House Ocean Research Advisory Panel and the Ocean Studies Board in the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine to study undersea instances of UFOs / UAPs. THE SECOND HALF OF THE SHOW is with astrophysicist Avi Loeb, the Baird Professor of Science and Institute director at Harvard University, to give a summary of his successful Galileo Project Pacific Ocean expedition in which he brought back to Harvard more than 50 spherules of the first recognized interstellar meteor, IM1, which lay on the deep ocean floor for nearly a decade.
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The announcement on July 8, 1947 by the intelligence office at Roswell Army Air Field that they had recovered a flying saucer from a ranch in the area quickly faded from the public consciousness after it was announced the next day that what was found was actually a weather balloon. It wasn’t until 1978 that the story was resurrected after Stanton Friedman stumbled upon it. After that, it spawned a cottage industry that many people profited from with books, speaking engagements, television appearances, videos and assorted merchandise. The original story of a flying saucer being recovered grew until there were two crash sites, recovered alien bodies, and even a living alien. Much of this is now doubtful as the credibility of the people who made those sorts of claims has been called into question, as is reported in detail on the website, roswellfiles.com. The thing about the Roswell case is, once one piece of testimony or evidence is put into question or totally debunked, someone comes along with “new evidence” that is promised to be “the smoking gun.” Read more →
Chris Styles as he discusses his new long researched book,Sweep Clear 5: NATO's UFO Encounter. After deep research, Chris concludes that there are two separate incidents that are in general conflated as one.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Rock musicians, like people from all walks of life, have reported encounters with UFOs. Famous examples include Jimi Hendrix, his former roadie and Motörhead frontman Lemmy Kilmister, John Lennon, and Shaun Ryder of the Happy Mondays. However, unlike people with more average day jobs, rock musicians tend to be treated less seriously in the press, often due to their sometimes publicly acknowledged drug use. A good example is Dave Davies of The Kinks, who reported an experience stranger than most, but students of this subject should recognize that some of what he reported has been reported by others. Read more →
Sgt. Mario Woods [ret.] is back, his gives an overview of the Ellsworth UFO Case, and then he discusses how AARO (All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office) contacted him and what it was like during his 4+ hour testimony regarding his UFO incident in 1977 as a witness and experiencer.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
When it comes to helicopter UFO encounters, many people interested in this subject are familiar with what has become known as “The Coyne Incident,” named after the Army Reserve helicopter pilot, Captain Lawrence Coyne. There was another helicopter incident four years later that is lesser known, but investigators at the time were quite interested in it. According to Coyne in the UPI story out of Cleveland, he and his crew were flying from Columbus to Cleveland, Ohio, at 11:00 p.m. on October 18, 1973, when the crew chief, Robert Yanacsek saw a red light approaching them. Coyne described it as, “shaped like an airfoil or a streamlined fat cigar.” He said it had a red light on the front, a dome in the center, and a green light on the rear. He said: “I’m a military commander. I don’t believe in UFOs, little green spacemen, and all that stuff. But I had to file an official report in detail to the Army on this thing.” Read more
Return guest, Kevin Randle gives his opinion of the recent whistleblower situation, and speaks on his recently released updated version of the 2000 book about the sightings over Washington, D.C. in 1952. The Washington Nationals examines the case in depth, adding additional commentary, witness interviews, and new information. His latest book on Roswell HERE.
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Bryce Zabel co-host of the Need to Know Podcast & YouTube show on UAP partners with Ross Coulthart has met and spoken with David Grusch, find out what the momentum has been, what we know and may expect to find out about the possibility of NHI, non-human intelligence. Are we at the tipping point?
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
James W. Moseley was a part of the UFO scene from the days of the first private investigators in the early 1950s up until his death in 2012. He ran the longest running saucer group, the Saucer and Unexplained Celestial Events Research Society or S.A.U.C.E.R.S. (he and the group picked the acronym before they figured out what it could stand for) and steadily published a newsletter, known for most of its existence as Saucer Smear. Moseley has been called the Court Jester of UFOlogy due to his habit of poking fun at those who took themselves and the subject too seriously, and was involved in some hoaxes/pranks with his friend Gray Barker that became infamous. He wrote a book with Karl Pflock about his exploits in saucerdom that was published in 2002 titled Shockingly Close to the Truth: Confessions of a Grave-Robbing UFOlogist. In spite of his less-than-serious nature, he did do some serious investigation in his early days, and in one instance, looked into a saucer crash story and wrote an article about it that was published in the January 1955 issue of Gray Barker’s magazine, The Saucerian. Read more
Veteran journalist, Ralph Blumenthal on co-authoring the bombshell article: INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN published on The Debrief a few days ago. He discusses what he and co-author Leslie Kean went through to verify David Grusch’s claim of who he was, and the nature of the whistleblower complaint he as filed. He addresses some of the issues that have been put out there since the release, and what impact he believes this article could make.
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Veteran TV journalist host of the HISTORY Channel's "The Proof is Out There", Tony Harris joins us to discuss the season's premier on June 9th, non-fiction series takes an in-depth look at some of the most incredible and thought-provoking videos of unexplained phenomena and mysterious must-see moments.
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Alejandro Rojas joins Martin to speak on yesterday's UAP whistleblower bombshell, Defense intelligence whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, who has alleged that the Intelligence Community is hiding classified evidence of “intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.” Check the story out in the DeBrief: https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
There are two cases out of France, around the time of the 1973 United States humanoid wave, that are remarkably similar in some aspects and occurred within a few months of each other. The first case, from 1973, shows up in the second edition of the Center for UFO Studies publication by David Webb, titled 1973—The Year of the Humanoids (page 16 of the pdf), and the second case, from 1974, shows up in the 1976 book by Jim and Coral Lorenzen, titled UFO Occupants (page 61 of the pdf.) Read more →
Guest Ron James on his latest documentary, “Accidental Truth – UFO Revelations” , From over 15 years of interviews and investigation, Ron James painstakingly connects the dots. Colonel John Alexander, Lue Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, Nick Pope and others help to “accidentally” weave a story that leaves no doubt that another intelligence is somehow operating around us. Dr. Michio Kaku provides scientific analysis and commentary specific to what we know.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
1984 was a serious year in UFOlogy. Researchers were taking advantage of a more efficient and accessible process for putting in FOIA requests and finding documents showing that agencies such as the FBI and CIA did have some involvement with UFOs despite statements to the contrary. The Hudson Valley wave was in full swing, and the British UFO Research Association got ahold of the tape recording made by Col. Charles Halt on one of the nights when UFOs were seen in Rendlesham Forest. With so much evidence that there was something to the mystery and official interest in it coming to light, the reporting on the UFO subject took a turn away from ridicule, and the press started being serious about UFOs as well. In the midst of this, there was a case that many researchers might find worthy of ridicule, and it’s probable that researchers of the day did as well because it came and went and remains obscure, but the reporting on it was straight forward and restrained. Read more →
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Beginning on New Year’s Eve, 1982, there was a series of sightings throughout the Hudson River Valley north of New York City by hundreds of people willing to go on the record. They reported seeing boomerang-shaped craft the size of 1, 2, and 3 football fields, that moved slowly, hovered, and turned on an axis. This is according to the first comprehensive book on the sightings, Night Siege, which was co-authored by J. Allen Hynek, Philip J. Imbrogno, and Bob Pratt, and published in 1987. One of the standout incidents in the book, covered in Chapter Eleven titled, “Close Encounter at Indian Point,” is a sighting by what are said by the authors to be security guards (they are all un-named) over the nuclear power plant on Indian Point, on the shore of the Hudson River in Buchanan, NY, just south of Peekskill, NY. Read more →
Guest Chrissy Newton talks about her father's very unusual UFO encounter, and discusses the Government & media looking at the UAP topic from a Public Relations Perspective. She will discuss the past to present media coverage, misinformation campaigns and Public Relations tactics government uses surrounding the UAP narrative. Chrissy will be speaking at the upcoming Contact in the Desert in a few weeks.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In last week’s blog, we looked at some correspondence we came across in the January-February 1969 Merseyside UFO Bulletin between Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Research Association Director Gary Lesley and Maury Island principals, Fred Crisman and Harold Dahl. We started by looking at an exchange between Lesley and Dahl. In a letter dated July 23, 1967, Lesley asked Dahl for copies of photos that were allegedly taken of a flying saucer, a written statement from Dahl, and for Dahl to contact Crisman and get a written statement from him as well. Dahl replied in a letter dated August 22, 1967, that he would “allow” Lesley to have copies of the photos, would provide a statement that would have to be approved by Crisman, and would contact Crisman but added that it would be unlikely that Crisman would reply to Lesley. Dahl went on to paint a picture of Crisman that didn’t seem to fit the facts that researchers looking into Crisman’s life uncovered. In contrast to what Dahl told Lesley to expect, Lesley got a letter from Crisman, and this is what we’re looking at this week. Read more →
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators
Throughout the history of flying saucers/UFOs, there have been characters that those being kind would describe as “colorful,” and those being blunt would describe as liars, hoaxers and con men. One of these characters was Fred Crisman, who became famous/infamous due to his involvement in the Maury Island case. Crisman was accused of hoaxing the case along with his business partner, Harold Dahl, and the two confessed as much to an FBI agent who investigated (page 20 of pdf) due to the deaths of two military intelligence officers associated with the case. Crisman faded from the public eye after this but showed up again on November 21, 1968 when he was called to testify at the trial of Clay Shaw looking into the JFK assassination. We have recently come across some correspondence between a UFO investigator, Crisman, and Dahl in the pages of a 1967 edition of a British UFO magazine that may be of interest to our readers. Read more →
Guest Gari Jones on his recently released book, "The Denbigh Lights - A Truthful Argument For The Existence of UFOs'", Gari discusses his in-depth investigation into a UFO captured on video in Denbigh, Wales. His investigation not only details the multi-witness statements but also up-to-date analysis of the video in question. He also talks about other UFO cases, one with occupants.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Gordon Cooper, youngest of the original Mercury astronauts, often spoke publicly about his UFO sightings and beliefs. He appeared in documentaries such as James Fox’s 2003 film Out of the Blue, and famously wrote a letter dated November 9, 1978, to Ambassador of Grenada to the United States George Ashley Griffith calling for the scientific collection and analysis of data taken from UFO encounters in order to “determine how best to interface with these visitors in a friendly fashion.” In Out of the Blue, he is heard telling a story about a flying saucer with three retractable legs that was filmed landing in 1957 at Edwards Air Force Base. He didn’t claim to have witnessed the landing himself, but did say he saw the footage. There was an incident involving the filming of a UFO at Edwards that year, and there is a Project Blue Book file on the case. James McDonald found the witnesses and interviewed them in the late 1960’s and wrote a report. Cooper’s name is not mentioned by McDonald and the incident as described by McDonald and in the Blue Book file didn’t involve a landing. Brad Sparks and Jan Aldrich, both heavily involved in UFO research for many years, had an email exchange discussing this, and a record of it can be found at nicap.org.
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Ben Moss & Tony Angiola return to speak on their 5-year in depth research of the 1964 Socorro UFO Incident which changed Dr. J. Allen Hynek's skeptic mind on the UFOs. Their released book: "Not of This World
The Socorro UFO Landing with Humanoids, Witness Lonnie Zamora". They discuss working with Ray Stanford, going to Socorro multiple times for additional evidence, and more.
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The story of the September 1961 case involving the possible abduction of Betty and Barney Hill by UFO occupants has been related and examined in numerous publications and formats. It’s an intriguing case and was the first of the late 20th century UFO abduction reports to receive serious consideration (and publication) by investigators. This makes it a case worthy of attention because the story told by the Hills couldn’t have been influenced by previous abduction narratives. The main source for the abduction story that is focused on by most researchers, such as John Fuller who wrote the 1966 book about the case titled The Interrupted Journey, is the tapes from the hypnosis sessions the Hills went through in 1964 with Dr. Benjamin Simon. Before that, the case was considered to be merely a sighting report. That’s how it was presented by Walter Webb, the primary investigator who submitted a report dated October 26, 1961, to the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. After news of the Hills possibly having been abducted got out, Webb was moved to submit an updated report, dated August 30, 1965, that contains the abduction account. Included in that report is a copy of the letter Betty Hill wrote to NICAP Director Donald Keyhoe dated September 26, 1961. This is the first document with a complete version the Hill’s sighting as it was consciously remembered. As for the abduction account, Webb included a copy of a five-page document, written by Betty a little over a month after the sighting, that shows that it actually originated in a series of dreams Betty had on consecutive nights shortly after the encounter. The letter and document are included in The Interrupted Journey, but their significance as the first recorded accounts of the Hills’ experience very close to the time of the event is not emphasized by Fuller. Read more →
Rerun (original April 9, 2015) guest Dr. Leo Sprinkle talks about his two sightings, his vast career and the thousands of cases he has looked into. He also talked about free energy, abductees, J Allen Hynek and more. Dr R. Leo Sprinkle (1930-2021)
by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
Tom Moir
People react to UFO encounters in different ways. Some are profoundly moved, some are terrified, some take them in stride, and some become fascinated. Tom Moir, a young man in the Aberdeenshire village of Muchalls, Scotland, was moved to become an investigator after his sighting in 1971, and he spent three decades videotaping UFOs in his area that he said were showing up on a regular basis. He came to believe they were monitoring him and his neighbors and this disturbed him to the point where he ended up moving thousands of miles away to Aukland, New Zealand.
Moir’s story appears in the 1998 book by Ron Halliday, UFO Scotland. Moir is identified in the book as Tom McClintock. According to Halliday, Tom was walking home from a bus stop near his home after his weekly violin lesson. On his right, “he noticed a red, pulsating light.” Another identical one appeared on his left and then, a third. He was not scared, but rather, curious as to what they were doing.
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Guest, Dan Harary has been a longtime UFO researcher, will speak on his UFO encounters, and the genesis of writing his recent sci-fi novel, “After They Came,” depicting aliens coming to earth to help mankind.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In Marfa, Texas, there is a phenomenon known as “The Marfa Lights” that has been around for a long time and still remains a mystery. It’s been studied by members of the Society of Physics Students from the University of Dallas and a retired aerospace engineer, James Bunnell. The students thought people were seeing car headlights on U.S. 67. Bunnell thought there was more to the lights than mere misidentification.
According to the Texas State Historical Association website entry on the subject by Julia Cauble Smith, the first historical record of a mystery lights sighting dates back to 1883. According to Smith, Robert Reed Ellison, a young cowhand, saw a flickering light while driving cattle through an area known as Paisano Pass and thought it might be coming from an Apache campfire. Other settlers told him they had seen lights on other occasions and when they investigated, they found no signs of fires in the area. This has been used as an argument against the car lights on U.S. 67 explanation by defenders of the mysterious nature of the lights, such as Ariel Slick, who posted an article on the Deep South Magazine website headlined “Marfa Lights: The Spirit of Texas” on August 19, 2022. Read more →
Brandon Fugal joins us on Season IV Premier Night of HISTORY Channel's "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch" discuss what is unique about the upcoming new season.
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Return guest, Graeme Rendall discusses the early years of the modern-day UFO phenomenon and more.
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The guest is late, Bill from KGRA fills in, a partial interview with Travis Walton then guest Carlo Petrick, poses; the question is not “Do you believe in UFOs,” but rather “Is there indisputable, scientific, peer reviewed and vetted evidence which indicates that UFOs are...
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Guest Mike Clelland talks about his longtime research into the mysterious connection between owls, synchronicities and UFO contact and more.
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Guest, Gunter Hofer on The Ariel School Encounter, other African UFO encounters and technical electronic evidence research.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In 2010, an article by Jeremy Vaeni headlined “The Incredible Visitations of Emma Woods” appeared in the November issue of UFO Magazine. The story that was detailed therein caused people in the UFO community to take hard look at the methods and conclusions of the two most prominent people in alien abduction research at that time. “Emma Woods” was the pseudonym of a woman who lived in England, and she was one of David Jacobs’s research subjects. She had posted some tapes of her hypnosis sessions with him that contained some details that Jacobs probably would have preferred had not been made public. Woods provided more details in an interview she gave on March 29, 2010, on the Paratopia podcast hosted by Vaeni and Jeff Ritzman, which appear in the UFO Magazine article. The article prompted Budd Hopkins’s wife, Carol Rainey to write an article of her own headlined “The Priests of High Strangeness” published in 2011 in Volume 1, Number 1 of Paratopia magazine detailing some of Hopkins’s methods with his subjects as well. Last week we looked at the experiences of Woods during her interaction with Jacobs. This week we’ll look at the aftermath and the reaction of some in the UFO community to Woods’s story. Read more
Guest Katie Cook, you may know her as the television host of CMT, but she has had a longtime interest in UFOs and believes we are in post-disclosure. She talks about the emotional impact this topic can cause on society. She also discusses her own journey and why she is passionate about it. At the end of the show, we play 15 minutes of a listener encounter, Carole Quine.
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Guest Colin Saunders is a mechanical engineer that had a family UFO encounter back in March, 1999 when a triangle UFO appeared right in front of his eyes, within 100 feet of his car. He discusses what the experience was like, goes into detail of what he observed as well as the high strangeness that followed.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators. In 2010, an article by Jeremy Vaeni headlined “The Incredible Visitations of Emma Woods” appeared in the November issue of UFO Magazine that caused people in the UFO community to take hard look at the methods and conclusions of the two most prominent people in alien abduction research. “Emma Woods” was the pseudonym of a woman who lived in England, and she was one of David Jacobs’s research subjects. She had posted some tapes of her hypnosis sessions with him that contained some details that Jacobs probably would have preferred had not been made public. Woods provided more details in an interview she gave on March 29, 2010, on the Paratopia podcast hosted by Vaeni and Jeff Ritzman, which appear in the UFO Magazine article. The article prompted Budd Hopkins’s wife, Carol Rainey to write an article of her own headlined “The Priests of High Strangeness” published in 2011 in Volume 1, Number 1 of Paratopia magazine detailing some of Hopkins’s methods with his subjects as well. Read more →
Throughout the 1990s, the foremost authorities on UFO abduction research were Budd Hopkins, an artist who brought the subject to mainstream attention with the publication of his 1981 book, Missing Time, David Jacobs, an associate professor of history at Temple University who published Secret Life in 1992, and John Mack, head of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, who published Abduction in 1994. Their books sold well, and they all spoke openly to the press and were largely responsible for getting the alien abduction phenomenon a good deal of media coverage. Even some in the scientific community, probably due to Mack’s efforts and tenure at Harvard, were willing to look at the phenomenon with an open mind, and an Abduction Study Conference was held in 1992 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, sponsored by a physics professor there, David Pritchard, with the help of financial backing from Robert Bigelow. Hopkins, Mack, and Jacobs were featured speakers, and Hopkins faced some public criticism during the conference regarding his methods. It wouldn’t be long before he faced even harsher criticism from within the UFO community. Read more →
Guest, Karol Olesiak was a 3rd class petty officer and Quartermaster on the Ronald Reagan during the 2004 encounter. He discusses his experience during the encounter, and how it was weirdly ignored by upper rank as well as talk about a more recent UFO encounter in 2015 with a friend while walking dogs.
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Guest Sam Maranto discusses the 2006 O'Hare UFO Incident, as well as the transition of where he has seen the UFO world changing over the last decades.
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by Charles Lear, author of “The Flying Saucer Investigators.”
In 1981, a new narrative became firmly established as part of the UFO mystery with the publication of Budd Hopkins’s book Missing Time. A large part of the book consists of transcriptions of recordings made during hypnosis sessions where the subjects described being taken aboard craft by 3-4 feet tall creatures that performed medical procedures on them. The descriptions of the creatures were similar to descriptions of beings that would become known as “the greys,” which are the now iconic creatures with large black eyes that became commonly reported after Whitley Strieber’s 1987 book Communion. The eyes of the creatures reported in Hopkins’s book vary. The book came out in July of 1981 and Hopkins, along with Dr. Aphrodite Clamar, a psychotherapist hired to conduct some of the hypnosis sessions, gave interviews to the press. From this point on, the UFO Abduction phenomenon began to receive serious consideration from the mainstream press with Hopkins as the leading authority for the rest of the decade. Read more →
Guest Julie Ohlson who was part of a 1982 Willernie, Minnesota close encounter case, along with her mother. There was melted holes in the snow and debris left, which was photographed at the time. The debris was shipped off for analysis, and took 40 years for it to be returned.
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While UFO researcher/investigators came to accept abduction reports as being worthy of their time by the end of the 1970s, only a few, such as John Keel and Gray Barker, were open to contactee reports. Even so, contactee reports kept showing up, and sometimes they would even make it into the newspapers. One British case from 1980 involved creatures that resembled the Venusians reported by George Adamski starting in 1952, and the witness claimed he had physical trace evidence as proof of his encounter. Read more →
Martin with guests, retired F-16 Fighter Pilot, Chris Lehto & Astronomer Marc D'Antonio on the recent unidentified object shoot-downs. We suggest you watch the video for graphics found in show notes.
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By the end of the 1970s, after the 1973 Pascagoula incident and the 1975 Travis Walton case, abduction claims were not only an accepted aspect of the UFO mystery by many investigators, they were considered worthy of attention by the news media, and there are many lengthy newspaper articles detailing reports throughout that decade. The narrative hadn’t yet been taken over by the now-common reports of being taken aboard a craft by creatures 3 to 4 feet tall with big, slanted, black eyes and being subjected to invasive medical procedures that seemed to have something to do with reproduction. The creatures and the natures of the encounters reported throughout the 70s were varied, but by the decade’s end, elements had emerged that would become common in the decades to come. What would also become common in such cases would be the use of regressive hypnosis, which was thought to be an effective means to recover lost memories. However, this technique has since came under criticism, particularly in its use to provide evidence in legal cases, as can be seen in the article titled “Hypnosis, Memory and Amnesia” which was published in the November 29, 1997 (pp. 1727-1732) Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society London B: Biological Sciences. Read more →
Martin discusses serendipitous witnessing of Chinese Balloon shoot-down then guest longtime UFO researcher, Larry Holcombe reflects on the “Golden Years” of UFOlogy, as well as what his opinion is of the last few years and the government's involvement of the UAP phenomenon.
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A fascinating conversation with guests; Jensine Andresen and Massimo Teodorani on their recently released book, Extraterrestrial Intelligence: Academic and Societal Implications and more https://amzn.to/3isX417
Dean Alioto fills in as host, guest, Rob Swiatek, speaks about UFO sightings and research in the age of disclosure and more.
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Guest Grant Cameron is on to touch on the recent UAP Report and consciousness as part of what he believes is the connection to UFOs, and more.
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In 1973, the claims of Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker that they’d been abducted by elephant-skinned, robot-like creatures in Pascagoula, Mississippi, opened researchers up to what have become known as “high-strangeness” reports. The term comes from J. Allen Hynek’s efforts at creating a system of strangeness ratings in Chapter Four of his 1975 book, The UFO Experience. Hickson and Parker were taken seriously because they seemed genuinely traumatized by their experience while just the two of them were waiting in a room at the police station where they first reported their encounter. They just been interviewed, and unbeknownst to them, a tape recorder in the room was left running, which captured the bewildered men talking to each other about their experience. Their story was reported in newspapers and UFO publications worldwide. After that, abduction reports began to increasingly appear. In the midst of this new openness to high-strangeness reports, in 1979, there was a story told by a trucker that was highly unique, and highly strange, and yet was still given serious consideration by the local newspapers and investigators who examined it. Read more →
Many readers may not be aware that, at one point in time, the National Enquirer was associated with serious UFO research in spite of its reputation as a sensationalistic supermarket tabloid. In 1972, the Enquirer put together what they called “The National Enquirer Blue Ribbon UFO Panel,” which was made up of five UFO researchers, all of whom held PhDs. The Enquirer was offering a $50,000 reward for proof, by the end of the year, that UFOs came from space and were not a natural phenomenon. The panel was tasked with evaluating UFO cases to determine if any of them provided such proof. The panel members included four consultants for the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, and Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a scientific consultant for the Air Force’s UFO investigation for most of its existence. All of them had good reputations within the UFO community, and the reader may wonder why they would put those at risk by being associated with the Enquirer in such an endeavor. It’s likely that the prospect of getting some of their research funded by the Enquirer may have helped them to put aside any aversions, and the assignment in 1975 of Bob Pratt to the Enquirer UFO desk, who became respected as an investigator in his own right, may have encouraged them to continue their association. Read more →
Guest, Mario Woods is back to discuss in detail his highly unusual encounter with lost time when he was assigned to the surveillance and protection of weapons and nuclear materials at the Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota and more.
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1973 was a special year for UFO enthusiasts. Not only were there a huge number of reports in newspapers as can be seen in the issues of the UFO News Clipping Service from that year, there were many that were especially strange. This was the year of the Coyne Incident involving a report that a U.S. Army Reserve helicopter in the sky over Cleveland was pulled up by a UFO while its controls were set to descend, and the Pascagoula Incident, involving a report by two men that they were taken aboard a craft by floating, elephant-skinned, robot-like creatures. These two cases made the front page of the September-October 1973 A.P.R.O. Bulletin, but a case that has been overshadowed by these two cases has the big headline, “Occupants in Indiana,” as the lead story in that issue. Read more →
Dean Alioto is back for a conversation with Martin on the unprecedented UAP legislation, the media's reaction and more.
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In last week’s blog, we looked at researcher/investigator Hayden Hewes and some of the cases he looked into. One of those was in Aurora, Texas, where a UFO was reported to have crashed in 1897, killing its not-of-this-world pilot. The pilot was said to have been buried in the local cemetery, and an enthusiastic Hewes attempted and failed to get an exhumation order. The case has endured in the UFO mythos despite the likelihood that the story was made up by a reporter trying to raise some publicity for a dying town. In the midst of the publicity stirred up by Hewes and other investigators, Jim and Coral Lorenzen of the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization expressed their doubts in their publication, the A.P.R.O. Bulletin. Read more →
Guest Curt Jaimungal of Theories of Everything joins us for his thoughts on UFOs, theoretical physics, consciousness and much more. https://theoriesofeverything.org https://youtube.com/TheoriesOfEverything
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When it comes to having an interest in the subject of UFOs, there are those who enjoy it casually, those study it more deeply, and those who become active as investigator/researchers. As for the latter type, some, such as Max B. Miller, start young. Miller was the president of the Junior Flying Saucer League at age 15 in 1952, and in 1953, was the editor of Saucers, a magazine he and his group, Flying Saucers International, put out until 1960. In 1953, Miller came up with the idea to organize a convention and FSI organized what was billed as “The World’s First Flying Saucer Convention.” It was held at the Hollywood Hotel from August 16–18, 1953, and was moderated by FSI member Jeron King Criswell, whom some readers may know as the narrator for Ed Wood’s masterpiece, Plan 9 From Outer Space. Another precocious UFOlogist, Hayden Hewes, started the International UFO Bureau in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma at the age of 13 in 1957. Hewes may not be as well known as Miller is to some readers, but he and his group were involved in some cases that should be.
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A follow-up with guest, John Ramirez who reveals fascinating information that he uncovered over the years and some interesting perspectives. John Ramirez served from 1984 to 2009 in the CIA Directorate of Science and Technology, Directorate of Intelligence, and the ODNI National Counterproliferation Center (NCPC). At CIA he was an intelligence analyst and Chief, ELINT Analysis Branch specializing in ballistic missile defense, weapons systems radars, and technical collection operations. At the NCPC he was the SIGINT specialist and the multi-discipline collection requirements strategist. John is a US Navy veteran, 1973 to 1979, in the Electronics Warfare Technician field on board surface ships. John majored in political science and graduated in 1983 from the George Washington University, Washington, DC. John is a member of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers and the Central Intelligence Retirees Association.
Return guest, Harvard Astrophysicist Avi Loeb discusses the new breakthrough today in nuclear fusion energy, the launching an undersea expedition to trace and collect the pieces of the first known interstellar object that hit Earth in 2014. The said object had crashed into the ocean just off the coast of Papua New Guinea. He also discusses what has been going on with the Galileo Project and more.
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When it comes to reporting UFO sightings, it often happens that local police departments are the first organizations witnesses turn to. Many times, the reports to police take place while the UFO is still active in the area and patrol officers are able to respond and verify witness accounts. Famous examples are the 1966 case involving Dale Spaur and his partner, Wilbur “Barney” Neff, who chased a UFO from Portage County, Ohio, all the way into Pennsylvania, and another Ohio case, this time in Trumbull County in 1994, involving multiple officers chasing and observing UFOs. Their radio interactions have been preserved in the form of a recording from the police dispatch that was turned over to researcher Kenny Young. This week, we’ll look at a 1972 case out of Colby, Kansas, that involved multiple police witnesses and multiple UFOs. Read more →
EVERYTHING ELSE SHOW: Martin & Marc discuss what it is like to have life-threatening heart issues, to be saved by modern medicine as well as what it is like to undergo lifesaving surgery with an intense recovery. Amazingly, Marc discusses how he seemingly healed himself through retraining neural pathways.
Back again is Podcast UFO's longtime blogger and author of "The Flying Saucer Investigators" to discuss his deep dive into his five-part blog series, "Behind the Scenes of UFO Cover-Up? Live!" 1-5, what he uncovered while researching it and more.
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When the subject of UFO databases comes up, the National UFO Reporting Center is usually mentioned along with the name of its seemingly tireless director, Peter Davenport. What many may not know is who it was that got it started.
Washington State MUFON Director Maurene Morgan wrote an article titled “The Early Years of NUFORC – Bob Gribble and Wendy Connor,” which was published in the November 2021 Washington MUFON Newsletter.According to Morgan, Bob Gribble, a Seattle Firefighter, became fascinated by UFOs in 1954 when he read an article in Truemagazine. This could have been the article in the May 1954 issue titled, “What Our Air Force Found Out About UFOs,” written by Edward J. Ruppelt, the first director of Project Blue Book. Read more →
Returning guest, John Ramirez Retired CIA Officer discusses his personal thoughts on the UFO subject, his own personal experiences and more.
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This is the last of what has turned into a five-part series looking into the events that led up to, and the people who would become involved with the television production UFO Cover-Up? Live!, which aired on October 14, 1988. It seems that the show’s producer, Michael Seligman, believed that it would be the vehicle for an earth-shaking UFO disclosure. What resulted was a clumsy and awkward production where the only disclosure anyone remembers is that aliens like strawberry ice cream.
Robert Skvaria wrote a three-part series of articles titled, “The Cover-Up Behind UFO Cover-Up? Live!” for Diabolique magazine, the first of which was posted on May 17, 2022. Skvaria spoke to Curtis Brubaker, who came up with the idea for the show, and Tracy Tormé, who produced the segment of the show devoted to the Gulf Breeze, Florida, sightings and the pictures taken by Ed Walters.
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Guests David Marler & Barry Greenwood discuss the launching of the National UFO Records Center, a non-profit based in New Mexico offering a vast array of historical data to the public and even the government if they choose to look into historical cases as mandated for 2023.
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Guest Dr. David Clarke speaks on his recent uncovering of the Calvine UFO photo, which is one of six known sequential images. For 32 years the image, dubbed the "Calvine photo," disappeared from the public eye, becoming the object of speculation, theories and myths. David speaks of his efforts and strange circumstances as to why the publishing was halted, and how the image(s) disappeared.
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In last week’s blog we looked at evidence that seems to support the idea that self-proclaimed disinformation agent, Richard Doty, who was a special agent with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, was acting on his own. We also looked at evidence that seems to support the idea and that William Moore, an author and UFO researcher who confessed to being in a partnership with Doty, was driven by the desire to make some money from the information Doty was giving him in exchange for his cooperation. Together, they put many UFO researchers into a state of confusion. We ended with the introduction of the “Majestic-12 Papers” into the UFO community. Read more →
Guest George Simpson witnessed the initial part of the final flight of Frederick Valentich on October 21st, 1978 from his family home in Beaumaris. This led him into deep research and his recent release of his book, Nothing on Radar: The Valentich Mystery.
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In last week’s blog, we introduced two people, Richard Doty, a self-professed Air Force Office of Special Investigations disinformation agent, and William Moore, a UFO researcher and co-author of the 1980 book The Roswell Incident, who had a profound influence on the UFO narrative in the 1980’s that culminated in a television presentation, UFO Cover-Up? Live!” What was discussed (scripted) on the show was the now familiar narrative of greys, crashed flying saucers, GOVERNMENT recovery of crash debris and alien bodies, and subsequent cover-up. Moore and Doty have since come forward as having been partners in what they claimed was a GOVERNMENT disinformation program targeting UFOlogists. We closed with the hypothesis that Doty was acting on his own and that Moore played along because he had a need to believe and stood to make some money from the “inside information” that Doty was feeding him and his fellow researchers. This week we’ll look at evidence to support that hypothesis.
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Guest James Fox on his film, "Moment of Contact", the Varginha incident — an alleged UFO crash that has been dubbed, Brazil's Roswell, he will also discuss purported forthcoming hospital video evidence of a creature, and more.
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Martin is back with Dean Alioto with guest, John Burroughs discussing the Rendlesham Forest Incident in Suffolk, England which occurred in late December 1980. He also discusses what followed, years of controversy, being first person to get government medical assistance for radiation exposure by an unidentified craft as well as how the taboo topic has changed over the last few years.
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If one was to pick a point when UFOlogy went off the rails, October 14, 1988, is one to consider. That was the date that a television show, UFO Cover-Up? Live!, aired on 130 syndicated channels throughout the United States. It was a flop, but an examination of the people who were involved in the production provides insight into how it came to be that a few dubious individuals left us with what have been convincingly argued are bogus stories and documents that support the idea that the GOVERNMENT has recovered crashed alien spaceships and bodies. A lasting belief is that this came about as the result of an organized GOVERNMENT disinformation program targeting the UFO community. A question this writer is examining is whether or not this too is bogus. Read more →
Throughout the history of UFOs there are stories that become well known throughout the UFO community and beyond, and more often than not, their origins can be found in archives available online. Sometimes a story that becomes popular and accepted as plausible can be found to have had dubious origins. If enough people choose to believe it and trusted researchers champion it, a story can become so embedded in the mythos that it will repeatedly rise from the dead no matter how many knives get stuck in it. Then, there are stories that never go beyond their original report and remain as a single mention in the records.
Tucked away in the Archives For the Unexplained collection is a March 1, 1974 edition of UFO POTPOURIE, a collection of news clippings put out by John Schuessler “In cooperation with: The Mutual UFO Network Inc. (MOFON) [sic]” and “ The UFO Study Group of Greater St. Louis, Inc.” Schuessler was one of the founding members of MUFON in 1969 and was a principle investigator of the Cash-Landrum case in the 1980s. He became the international director of MUFON in 2000. Read more →
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Guest host Dean Alioto interviews Alejandro Rojas fresh off of the annual International UFO Congress, they discuss the event, and what the current hot topics and much more.
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Salvaged audio, missing a 5-min segment a few minutes in. Recorded at the Academy of Music, Northampton Massachusetts, Ariel Phenomenon Panel Discussion moderated by guest host, Dean Alioto. The discussion is with cast and crew regarding the making of the film, the Ariel School event, and the overall phenomenon. Panel consists of filmmaker and producer, Randall Nickerson, Gunter Hofer, Whitley Strieber and Christopher Seward. This is featured after the theater premier of this film.
Guest host Dean Alioto interviews actor/comedian and ufo researcher, Dave Foley. Dave will talk about his lifelong interest in the UFO phenomenon as well as his recent very first UFO sighting while hanging with filmmaker Jeremy Corbell and much more
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In 1953, there were several UFO reports throughout the year in Canada around the area of Sudbury, Ontario. Reports ranged from saucers to cigar-shaped objects, and there was one report of two “flying torpedoes” that moved slowly in the sky and made no sound. Then, in 1954, there was a report from nearby Garson of a craft and three bizarre creatures that may have had malevolent intentions. Read more →
Guest host Dean Alioto interviews Kevin Day about the post effect of his 2004 USS Princeton/ Nimitz tic-tax encounter, The upcoming congressional hearing at the end of October and more.
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Guest Ben Hurle discusses the 1993 Kelly Cahill Case, which is intriguing as well as other Australian UFO encounters. Show Notes
Guest Peter Robbins discusses the evolving UFO/UAP world as well as his research into the controversial life of Wilhelm Reich and his connection to UFOs. This show is dedicated to longtime listener (since 2012), firefighter, Lea MacDonald, who passed away this year. Show Notes
Guest Dr. Jacques Vallée discusses what has changed in the last few years in the UFO field, his work with Bigelow’s government contract to research UFOs, his latest book, TRINITY: The Best Kept Secret Breakthrough, in this book Research Reveals the Earliest Evidence of US Government’s UFO RecoveryHard evidence has existed since 1945 for the […]
Clinical hypnotherapist, Laurie McDonald speaks on her abduction research, consciousness, reality and the extraterrestrial phenomenon and much more. Show Notes
Guest Randall Nickerson speaks on the aftermath of his brilliant film, Ariel Phenomenon, betrayal of an online streaming platform, plus people he met on the journey of filming in Africa and their unheard of encounters and a lot more. Show Notes
Guests Matthew Szydagis, Keven Knuth, & Gary Voorhis discuss the non-profit organization taking an approach of collecting UAP/UFO data and analyzing it through scientific means. Discussed certain cases, and opinions of how science should approach this topic, and how the changes have been positive overall. Show Notes
This week’s guest was a no-show. A few days ago I sat in on the Basement Hangout Podcast with Chad & Bob, Chad reached out to me when he saw my guest did not show up, and offered the podcast for our listeners. This show is on the lighter side, I hope you enjoy.
Karen Brard stops in to talk about the International UFO Congress (see links in show notes) Then guest Dr. Michael Masters discusses the premise that UFOs and Aliens could simply be our distant human descendants, returning from the future to study us in their own hominin evolutionary past. Michael is a returning guest and he […]
Guest Senior Planetary Astronomer at SETI Institute, Dr. Franck Marchis, on UFOs/UAP and what SETI’s current thoughts on the topic and what they are doing these days to keep up the search for extraterrestrial intelligent life, the James Webb Space Telescope and more. Show Notes
Enjoyable conversation with repeat guest, Lee Speigel on what he has been up to lately, he will also be discusses what it was like to put together a 1976 vinyl album of solid witness accounts including astronaut Gordon Cooper, US Army Maj. Larry Coyne, and opinions from icons of the day such as J. Allen […]
Shows will mostly be one hour long, next week beginning at 7;00 PM ET. Guests Patrick Jackson & Steve Colbern discuss their book and theory of QUANTUM PARANORMAL: A 21st Century Analysis of the Paranormal which includes their take on UFOs/UAP. Show Notes
Guest, Canadian UFO researcher, Chris Rutkowski comes on to discuss his latest book, Canada’s UFOs: Declassified, the book touches on decades of reported sightings by military & civilians in Canada. Check out his book here: https://amzn.to/3bA8eNI Show Notes
Caroline Cory on to speaking about her film, Tear in the Sky joined by David Altman & Dave Mason in hour two, and elaborate their involvement in film on location, David Mason goes into great detail on the equipment he has used and also on object he has identified as reflecting up to 80°F below […]
Guest, Mario Woods discusses his highly unusual UFO and beings encounter with lost time when he was assigned to the surveillance and protection of weapons and nuclear materials at the Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota. With a Situation-4 security alert, Mario joined Michael Johnson (at the wheel) responding to an alert that the […]
GUEST ONE: Philip Mantle on his new book which looks at UFO landing cases in the UK only (with the addition of the Republic of Ireland) beginning long before the modern era of UFOs began in 1947 right the way through to today. GUEST TWO: Charles Lear, longtime blogger for Podcast UFO on his book; […]
Nathan comes on to discuss his thoughts on UFOs consciousness, high strangeness and more.
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While 1954 in America was mostly about the saucers, that year in France was more about the occupants, also known as “humanoids.” It was then that French researcher Aimé Michel came to international prominence as he investigated, collected data, and tried to unravel the mystery. A young Jaques Vallée first became interested in flying saucers at this time. He was later inspired by Michel’s work and went on to achieve prominence as a respected and influential figure in the field.
On September 10, 1954, 34-year-old Quarouble resident Marius Dewilde reported an incident to the local police that received extensive press coverage, not only in France, but worldwide. According to Dewilde, at 10:30 p.m. he was sitting in his house, located next to some railroad tracks, when his dog, Kiki, started barking outside. Equipped with a flashlight, he went to investigate.
Outside, he noticed a large object, which he assumed was a harvest cart, six meters from his front door. He then saw two figures on a nearby path that was often used by smugglers. He pointed his flashlight at them, and there was a reflection on what seemed to be a glass helmet with a head inside. He only got a quick look, but the head seemed especially large. He estimated the figures were both about a meter in height. Read more →
Special Guest Alejandro Rojas joins in for a conversation on sorting things out floating around in the UFO field, his involvement with the SCU (The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies), the UAP Hearing, the Wilson Document and much more! Show Notes
Exclusive interview with journalist Leslie Kean who was in Washington for the Congressional Hearing on UAP. She discusses the path that led to the hearing, her speaking with committee chair André Carson and breaking the announcement in The New York Times, what it was like being present, and what happened after the hearing concluded. Show […]
Randall Nickerson on his film, Ariel Phenomenon which released on May 20th. Playing clips and discussing the 15 years of painstaking work to tell one of the most important stories of a South African schoolyard encounter in 1994. This film shows what the reactions were right after the encounter and how it changed the lives […]
GUEST ONE: Ralph Blumenthal on the House Intelligence subcommittee which held the first congressional hearing in more than 50 years on unexplained aerial phenomena which occurred on this day, GUEST TWO: Sean Cahill, continuing on the topic and much more, Sean is a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Master-at-Arms that was aboard the USS Princeton during […]
Martin & Marc D'Antonio discuss what little they know about the upcoming Public UAP Hearings, and various UFO images, as well as astronomy, an upcoming eclipse, possibilities of life out there and more.
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Please support this film, it is the best movie I have ever watched on the UFO topic! This review includes my interview clips with filmmaker, Randall Nickerson, and direct witnesses, Emily Trim, Francis Chirimuuta & Salma Siddick. Thank you, Martin
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Randall Nickerson and a direct witness will be on our show on Tuesday, May 31.
Brazil has a unique place in UFO history, not only for the abundance of high-strangeness UFO reports that come from that region, but also for the fact that people have been reportedly injured and have even died as a result of their alleged encounters. One such case comes from the Brazilian city of Varginha. In this case, not only is there a report of a witness dying, there are also reports that one, and maybe more, extraterrestrials ended their days here on Earth.
Bob Pratt, a UFO researcher who manned the National Enquirer’s UFO desk for a period and covered South American UFO reports extensively, presented a narrative summary of the case in his 1996 book, UFO Danger Zone: Terror and Death in Brazil – Where Next? He was in Brazil shortly after the events and his summary is based on witness accounts and reports from the primary investigators. Read more →
On location in Vermont with guest, James Fox and Marco Leal to discussing Jame's latest to be released film, 'Moment of Contact' which is a documentary based on the 1996 Varginha UFO Crash, considered 'The Roswell of Brazil'. The town of Varginha was cordoned off by military and emergency response teams and two creatures were captured and much more. James also talks about the UFO encounter game changer video he viewed that is owned by Chuck Clark.
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In last week’s blog, we took a look at a case from Kofu, Japan, that involved two seven-year-old boys, Masato Kono and Katushiro Yamahata, who reported seeing a saucer-shaped UFO and its occupants in a vineyard in 1975. The creatures were described as having brown heads with pinky-sized, horizontal wrinkles where a face would be; three silver, metallic, two-inch fang-like features where a mouth would be; and two rabbit-like ears with a hole in the middle of each one. One of the creatures confronted the boys and emitted a noise like a sped-up tape recorder in what seemed to be an attempt to communicate. They ran away to Kono’s home where their parents were having dinner and they excitedly told their story. Kono’s mother thought they had made it up as an excuse for being late, but the boys insisted it was true and pleaded with their mothers to go with them and see for themselves. The boys would soon be forgiven for being late and would become the center of attention for many interested parties.
Masako Kono and Hanae Yamahata followed their boys out to a road on the west side of the Hinode Complex where the Konos lived. With them were Hanae’s one-year-old son and four-year-old daughter. From there, they had a view of the vineyard where the boys said they’d seen the saucer and the creatures. Read more →
Everything Else Show guests, current ranch owner Brandon Fugal & on location at Skinwalker ranch, Principal Investigator and Chief Scientist, Erik Bard discuss the goings on at Skinwalker Ranch, why Brandon bought the place and tidbits the past and present.
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A fascinating conversation with guest Chris Lehto who discusses what he has been up to in the UAP world since our last show together, and his involvement with the UAP Society which aims at discovering the secrets of alien life, by uniting dedicated enthusiasts and scientists from all over the globe, in the search for the truth.
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In 1975, two seven-year-old boys in Kofu, Japan, reported an encounter with a flying saucer and its occupants. They were taken seriously, and an investigation revealed not only other witnesses, but also physical evidence to back up their story. The case was re-examined almost 40 years later by investigators from the Space Phenomena Observatory Center, and in their opinion, still holds up. A report was given to the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization and the Center for UFO Studies by Matsushito Hayashi of the Japan Space Phenomena Association. Both organizations provided summaries (APRO here on page 5; and CUFOS here on page 13) in their publications. A two-part article using extensive Japanese sources was written by Otakupapa. It is titled Kofu Incident: A Creepy Alien Got Off a UFO and Tapped a Japanese Boy on the Shoulder and is posted on otakupapa.net.
According to the article, on Sunday, February 23, 1975, Masato Kono and Katushiro Yamahata were roller-skating on a concrete slab in a vacant lot at around 6:30 p.m. Looking up, they saw two lights moving towards them from the east. According to the version of events in one of Otakupapa’s sources (Kubota, Hachiro UFO to Uchu (UFOs & Space) June 1975, NO.12, 8-17, Universe Publishing Co.), the lights were seen by the boys to be orange objects as they got closer. At this point the boys could see that the objects were circular with three spinning structures on the bottom. The boys’ descriptions of the objects are very much like the “classic” Adamski-type saucer. According to writer Hiroshi Minamiyama (Otakupapa’s other source for this moment in the story) only one object came over to the boys while the other one flew off.
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Martin Willis joins Katie Griboski, Katie Cook and Chris Deperno on this week's MUFON What's Up! The interview starts about 30 minutes in.
Martin checks in and plays a an amazing 2016 show replay of Dr George Gaines as he speaks about his childhood UFO sighting and when Edward Ruppelt visited him to talk about it, and more.
On November 26, 1979, police in the French agglomeration community of Cergy-Pontoise received a strange missing person report from two distressed young men. According to Jean-Pierre Prévost and Salomon N’Diaye, their friend, Franck Fontaine, disappeared after a ball of light that was accompanied by three or four luminous spheres engulfed the car he was in. This resulted in not only an investigation by the police but also GEPAN (Groupe d’Études des Phénomènes Aérospatiaux Non-identifiés), the unit of CNES (Centre National D’études Spatiales) tasked with dealing with UFO reports.
According to an article on the case titled L’Affaire de Cergy-Pontoise, posted on rrO.org, Fontaine, 18, Prévost and N’Diaye, both 25, were loading a Ford station wagon with jeans they were going to try and sell at Gisors market. They saw a light heading towards the ground at a “not too fast speed.” Fontaine drove towards where he thought it might have made impact after telling the other two to meet him there. Prévost and N’Diaye went back to their nearby apartments, N’Diaye to get a camera and Prévost to get another load of jeans. Read more →
Guest, Micah Hanks coming to us from Brazil and discusses his longtime look into the UFO topic, the changes in the last few years, the success of the Debrief as a UAP news source and more.
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In last week’s blog, we wrote about an incident involving Filiberto Cárdenas, a Cuban exile living in Hialeah, Florida. Cárdenas was reportedly seen by his friend and his friend’s wife and daughter to float up in a beam of light into some sort of craft that then flew off. Two hours later, he was found 16 miles away on his hands and knees in the middle of the road. He was taken to a hospital and tested for radiation. The tests came up negative, but he experienced mysterious symptoms including an excessive thirst, shaking hands, and a sulfurous body odor. While this case might have been held up as an argument for the reality of the alien abduction phenomenon, it is rarely discussed and is overshadowed by more famous cases such as that involving Travis Walton. A possible reason for this is that Cárdenas, and then his wife, reported experiences that were similar to those of contactees, who have often been discounted by many in the UFO research community. Read more →
Dave Beaty on USS Kearsarge UFO encounter then repeat guest, Stan Gordon to speak on his latest book, "Creepy Cryptids and Strange UFO Encounters of Pennsylvania" as well as recent and past UFO & cryptid cases that Stan has looking into since the 1960s
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UFO abduction cases have been controversial ever since the very first cases were reported. The main factor working against them is that most of them are single witness reports. There are exceptions, of course, the most famous being the 1975 Travis Walton case. In this incident, six of Walton’s co-workers (they were working in Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona on an NFS Timber Stand Improvement contract) reported seeing Walton knocked back by a beam of light from a UFO and then lifted up by the beam. Walton was missing for five days and the Navajo County Sheriff suspected his co-workers of murder. They were subjected to lie-detector tests at the Navajo County Courthouse in Holbrook, Arizona, and all six of them passed. This case is still discussed and held up in support of abduction claims, but another abduction case with multiple witnesses that also seems worthy of consideration is nowhere near as well known.
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Callers from all over the country and one from Germany talk about their encounters and more.
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By Charles Lear
With UFO reports, there are common elements that give one a sense of the nature of the phenomenon. However, there are some reports that contain elements that are unique to the point that a researcher might be inclined to dismiss them. The case of Herbirito Garza is one of these.
Garza’s case was written about by Scott Corrales in his article “Abductions: The Crucible of Nightmares,” published in the May 2000 issue of Fate magazine (See page 5). According to Corrales, the case was investigated in 1972 by Jorge Reichert, Salvador Freixedo, and Ian Norris. Garza, a Mexican ceramics technician who lived in the city of Puebla, claimed to have been visited by an alien from the planet Auko and taken aboard a spaceship. According to him, he had just gotten into bed when he heard a noise in the living room. Thinking someone had broken in, he went to investigate. He came upon a “man” that was over two meters tall with a distinguished, almost-feminine-looking face. Read more
Ted Roe stops in for a few minutes to discuss the AIAA statement on UFOs, NARCAP, pilot encounters, then guest Jack Brewer got interested in the many overlaps between NICAP and intelligence agencies. Then, through the FOIA, various archives, newspaper clippings and so on, it got increasingly interesting, to the point that he wrote about it. Frankly, Jack was surprised how much material he has obtained that suggests the CIA facilitated the birth of NICAP.
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In the 1950s, the first reports of cars shutting down in the proximity of UFOs started hitting the news, most memorably those from Levelland, Texas, in 1957. Then, in the 1960’s, there were reports of UFOs chasing cars, sometimes hitting them, and in fair turnabout, reports of cars chasing UFOs. Things didn’t escalate until 1978, when the first reports came out of UFOs lifting cars up in the air, carrying them for various distances and periods of time, and then returning them to the ground.
In 1978 alone, there were four reports that this writer was able to find. The first of these occurred in July of that year and is described on the website of the Missouri Investigators Group.
According to the report, there was a UFO flap in Ellsberry, Mo., at the time. On July 27, Mrs. Clora Winscher, was driving towards her home in Arnold, Mo., after visiting her brother in Beaufort. At around 12:30 a.m., she was coming out of Union, Mo., when she saw what she thought was a tractor trailer coming straight at her. As she braced for impact, her car filled up with white light.
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Joining us for the first hour is, Stanford University School of Medicine professor, Garry Nolan discusses his years of research into the UFO phenomenon, as well as the study of alleged UFO crash materials. Joining us later in the discussion and for the remainder of the show is guest, ex-Pentagon official, Lue Elizondo for updates on what he has been involved with in the last year, what is upcoming book will entail and much more.
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When a nine-year-old boy in Harrah, Washington, approximately 12 miles west of the city of Toppenish, told his mother a story about seeing strange creatures and their vehicles on the morning of a school day, she heard him out, and then sent him to school. His story would likely have gone no further, had it not been for a teacher’s aide who went with him back to his house during recess after hearing his story and believing him. This lead to the discovery of physical traces that backed up his story and an investigation by members of the Center for UFO Studies and a reporter from a local paper.
According to the article “Harrah Youth Reports UFOs With ‘Greenish Creatures,’” written by Frances Story and published in the January 26, 1977 Toppenish Review, nine-year-old Jose Cantu woke his mother up at 6:30 a.m. on Wednesday, January 19, wanting her to explain a “little man” he’d seen outside. His mother, Martha, had had a rough night with her baby and sent him away so she could get some more sleep. Jose then went out to investigate on his own.
Jose came back in and told his mother what he’d seen. According to him, there were two greenish creatures in the yard that were about three feet tall, and instead of having feet, they rotated on round bases. He said he saw two “steely” craft, one sitting in the yard and one on a flat section of the roof, and that there was a creature in each one. He said he observed all this while hiding behind a washing machine outside next to a shed.
As he watched, the two creatures in the yard returned to the vehicles. He said they had “straight stairs” leading to doors that opened “in two parts, like a cross,” and that there were two chairs with tall bases inside. The vehicles then rose up and disappeared into some sort of vaporous cloud. Read more →
Guest Tom King was in Phoenix during the Phoenix Lights event on March 13, 1997. He discusses his longtime interest, Phoenix as a UFO hotspot and his extensive UFO filming.
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In mid December of last year, we wrote about a woman, Irma Rick, in the province of La Pampa in Argentina, who, after seeing a bright light outside her house, suddenly found herself the next morning almost 65 km (40 miles) away sitting on the side of the road in the town of Guatraché with no memory of how she got there. Most of us here in the United States got the news from INEXPLICATA-The Journal of Hispanic UFOlogy. A recent post on the site on February 6 tells of another report out of La Pampa that is just as strange�The sources are listed as Luis Burgos and the online La Pampa news publication InfoHuella. InfoHuella posted an article and a follow-up covering the story. On February 4, a couple and their adult son were travelling by truck on their way home to the town of Victoria. They were crossing the border between La Pampa province and San Luis province to the east. As they passed under the border arch they saw “many lights.” According to one of the witnesses, “When we saw the lights, the first thing we wondered was if it had to do with Victorica Agricultural School being lit up. We then realized this could not be the case, as we were far away.” Before they could make sense of what they were seeing, they found themselves entering the town of Victorica, 26 kilometers from where they were a moment ago. Their GPS still indicated that they were in their former position but then “zeroed out” within a few blocks.
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An authentic look inside Russia on the Ukraine conflict with Konstantin Samoilov, what everyday people have been told through controlled media, how Russians feel about the people of Ukraine, the, sanctions, what is happening to their country now and their fears of the future.
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HOUR ONE: Kevin Randle discusses UFO encounter/vehicle stall incidents as well as his book, LEVELLAND, about a multiple witness and multiple encounters case of a red glowing object witnesses in 1957 and more. HOUR TWO: Albert Wain talks about some family UFO encounters including one he witnessed at 9 years old, plus elaborates on his sighting at 17 years old with multiple witnesses.
BIO: Kevin Randle is a prominent ufologist. Within the UFO community, he is often regarded as one of the preeminent experts on the reported crash of a UFO near Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947. He is a professional best-selling author with over 100 books to his name. He has a Ph.D. in psychology and was in the United States Air Force and the National Guard where he held the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before retiring in 2009.
BIO: At the age of nine, Albert was enjoying a summer evening with his parents and uncle when they all witnessed an event in the sky that, to this day, has challenged his beliefs on reality. Albert has spent a lifetime of curiosity with UFOs and other paranormal subjects from Massachusetts to Utah to Manitoba, Ca. Albert spent forty years in antique restoration and claims work, which he is now retired from, and currently resides in New York State, pursuing a career as a painter.
Guest Jane Kyle (aka "UFOJane") has documented over a thousand UFO sightings in her home state of Texas, she speaks about her favorite historic cases and more.
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As mentioned last week, in part three of this four-part series, investigators from the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, the Mutual UFO Network, and the Center for UFO Studies travelled to Liberty, Kentucky, to interview three women there who’d reported an unusual UFO encounter. According to the women, Louise Smith, Mona Stafford, and Elaine Thomas, they suffered physical effects after the encounter including one-inch-by-three-inch rectangular burn-like marks on the backs of their necks, a burning sensation on certain areas of skin when in contact with water, and red irritated eyes. They also seemed to have lost around 80 minutes. This was on January 6, 1976, so it was an early abduction case before the narrative of a “typical” abduction by beings that came to be known as “greys” became prominent.
Jim and Coral Lorenzen of APRO were told about the case by APRO Field Investigator Bill Terry. He told them that abduction might have been involved, and they arranged for APRO Psychiatric Consultant Dr. Leo Sprinkle to travel to liberty and interview the women at APRO’s expense. He was a specialist in hypnotic regression and APRO was hoping that the women would agree to undergo the procedure.
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Longtime UFO researcher, Chris Lambright gives his take on UFO beliefs, The Father Gill Incident of 1959, and goes deeply into the Paul Bennewitz Case, Rick Doty and the government disinformation.
In last week’s blog, we looked at a UFO encounter in Kentucky reported by three women, Louise Smith, Mona Stafford, and Elaine Thomas. According to them, they saw a craft that shone a blue light into their car and seemingly took control of it. They felt pain down through the tops of their heads and in their eyes, felt the car being pulled backwards and then suddenly found themselves almost eight miles away in what seemed like an instant. The UFO was gone. They continued on to Liberty, Kentucky and stopped at the trailer home of Smith, who had been the driver. They became aware that they all had a number of physical ailments, including burning and tearing eyes, skin that burned when in contact with water and one-inch-by-three-inch marks on the backs of their necks. There was also about 80 minutes they couldn’t account for. Smith looked to see if any of her neighbors were awake and she saw a light on in the trailer next-door belonging to Lowell Lee. The women went over to his house and Lee listened to their story. He looked at the marks on their necks, and then had them go to separate areas and draw what they said they saw. The drawings were almost identical. The story found its way into the press and it wasn’t long before interested UFO investigators approached the women to look into the case. Read more →
Guest Ron Felber discusses his research while writing his book,‘ The Mojave Incident’, which happened on the night of October 21, 1989, nine glowing objects appeared over an empty stretch of the Mojave desert—and turned Elise and Tom (real; names Dawn & Steve) Gifford’s quiet weekend into an unearthly nightmare of terror.
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Guest Ron Felber discusses his research while writing his book,' The Mojave Incident', which happened on the night of October 21, 1989, nine glowing objects appeared over an empty stretch of the Mojave desert---and turned Elise and Tom (real; names Dawn & Steve) Gifford's quiet weekend into an unearthly nightmare of terror.
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In our last blog, we looked at a case involving three women in Kentucky who experienced actinic conjunctivitis after a UFO encounter. Since the blog was about multiple UFO-related conjunctivitis cases, we focused on that aspect of the encounter, but there was more to their story – a lot more.
According to the October 1976 APRO Bulletin (date from February 12, 1976 Kentucky Casey County Press) on January 6, 1976, Louise Smith, Mona Stafford, and Elaine Thomas were all sitting in the front seat of Smith’s 1967 Chevy, which she had bought the day before. Smith was driving and they were on their way back to Liberty, Kentucky, where they all lived, after having had dinner at the Redwoods restaurant 29 miles away, five miles north of Stanford, Kentucky. They had gone there to celebrate Stafford’s birthday (they reportedly didn’t drink any alcohol) and left at 11:15 p.m.
They were about one mile south of Stanford when they spotted a large metallic disc-shaped object with a glowing white dome. There were “three or four” lights on the underside that were red and yellow, and “a bluish beam of light issued from the bottom.” The object descended from their right to left and then hovered at tree level over the road in front of them. At this point, they were able to estimate its size. Smith said it was “as big as a football field,” and Stafford said it was about the size of two houses. It gently rocked back and forth for a couple of seconds and then moved off to their left.
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Guests Ron Meyer and Alan Megargle to discuss the Skinwalker Ranch type phenomenon through their movies, "The Bigfoot Alien Connection Revealed" and caller Mardi from Washington state discusses encounters at her cabin, witnessed by her and family members, they also talk about their other films, Alien Contact in the Rockies and post-production film, "Paranormal Highway" and much more.
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For researchers, UFO trace cases make up a welcome, science-friendly aspect of a phenomenon that often eludes scientific study. Researcher Ted Phillips specialized in trace cases starting in the mid-1960s on the advice of Project Blue Book scientific consultant J. Allen Hynek. In the course of his investigations, Phillips was able to note commonalities, one of those being that soil samples taken from alleged UFO landing sites were unable to absorb water. While UFOs have been reported to leave physical traces on the environment, they’ve also been reported to leave physical traces on witnesses. A common report of this sort is what is medically known as “actinic conjunctivitis” or “klieg conjunctivitis.” This is a painful condition where the eyes become red and intensely irritated due to exposure to ultraviolet light. Read more →
Dr Bob Davis and Dave Beaty are on this show to talk about their upcoming film: "The Consciousness Connection" where they discuss Interactions with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena; Neuroscience; and Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences; Healing with Intent; Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis; Astrophysics; and Quantum Theory, among others.
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For UFO researchers, and especially those interested in UFO history, the internet is a treasure trove. There are many, easily accessible archives online, with Archive.org, and Archives for the Unexplained being two of the main go-to sites. There is also a lot of material available thanks to researchers who preserved it on their sites during periods of active research and investigation, and the material remains despite many having ceased any major activity. Two examples are the websites left behind (and looked after by caring former members) by the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena and the Center for UFO Studies. Among the archived material can be found articles on UFO incidents clipped out of newspapers. These were gathered, in many cases, by individual researchers in the area of a UFO incident, or through the efforts of a network of members of some of the larger organizations, such as NICAP and CUFOS. Then, in 1969, a young UFO enthusiast took it upon himself to start a news-clipping service devoted to UFOs and other things fortean. He copied, cut, and pasted the clippings to put together a monthly publication, available by subscription, appropriately named the UFO Newsclipping Service.
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On September 12, 1952, a woman and six boys in the town of Flatwoods in Braxton County, West Virginia, reported that they’d had an encounter with a landed UFO and a strange creature. The woman, Mrs. Kathleen May, described the creature to a reporter as “a fire-breathing monster, ten-feet tall with a bright green body and a blood-red face.” She said the creature emitted an odor “like metal” that caused everyone to vomit for hours after the encounter. She added, “It looked worse than Frankenstein.” The witnesses all agreed that the figure had a red face with two openings like eyes that projected beams of greenish-orange light over their heads and that around the face there was a dark hood-like shape that came to a point like the ace of spades. The creature has become known as “The Flatwoods Monster.” By September 15, the case was reported in newspapers all over the country. It is likely that most readers are aware of this case, but many may not be aware of reports from nearby Wheeling, West Virginia, just a couple of days later. Read more →
Guest, Sgt. Monroe Nevels, was with Colonel Charles Halt and others on December 27-28th, 1980 as a first hand witness of the Rendlesham Forest Incident. He operated the Geiger counter and confirms the Craft of Unknown Origin sighting. These events occurred just outside RAF Woodbridge, which was used at the time by the United States Air Force.
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Guest Cristina Gomez to discuss her fascination with the UFO/UAP topic, her dive into UFO video scrutiny and where her interest has led her.
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On June 24 of this year (World UFO Day), the International UFO Lab was established in Japan. It is housed in the UFO Fureaikan (UFO Friendship Center), a UFO center and museum that was built in 1992 in the town of linomachi (lower case spelling is apparently proper), which is now a prefecture of Fukushima. The facility is city owned and run by the Iinomachi Promotion Corporation. It was built using money from a regional development fund in an effort to help promote the area as a UFO hotspot after numerous sightings, starting in the 1970s, around nearby Mount Senganmori. The Lab is part of a new revitalization effort for Fukushima as a whole. Japan’s history of private UFO research goes back to the 1950s, but the official stance until 2020 was that UFOs weren’t worthy of consideration.
The material housed in the UFO Fureaikan comes from a donation of over 3000 items from early Japanese UFO researcher Kinichi Arai. Arai ran a bookstore in the early 1950s and developed an interest in flying saucers while reading books on the subject that were increasingly being published at the time. Arai felt there was need for serious discussion of the phenomenon and formed Japan’s first UFO organization, the Japanese Flying Saucer Research Association in 1955. Arai was a pacifist, and according to him, “I told myself that if we knew for sure that the aliens were watching us, we would no longer fight. Therefore, I decided to see if I could prove that the aliens were real.”
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Guest Paul Hynek, son of J. Allen Hynek, was one of the lead astronomers for the US Air Force program to investigate UFO sightings—and featured in History Channel’s Project Blue Book. Paul discusses what it was like growing up around UFOs as if it was a normal topic, he touches on some notable reports, his father's involvement with "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", and his thoughts on where UFOs may be coming from and who they could possibly be.
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Mack Maloney co-hosting with guest Graeme Rendall. We often think of UFOs as post Roswell, 1947, Graeme discusses his book that researched UFOs prior, including Foo Fighters of WWII, listen in for an exceptional researched fact base show on this topic. HAPPY AND SAFE NEW YEAR!
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These days, more and more researchers are considering the idea that there is a unified theory for all things paranormal from Bigfoot to ghosts to UFOs. The idea that all, or at least many, things paranormal derive from a common source was considered as early as the 1940s by Meade Layne and other members of the Borderland Sciences Research Association. This has been popularized in more recent times by John Keel and Jaques Vallée. There was a great deal of resistance to this way of thinking among paranormal enthusiasts, but a case in Pennsylvania from 1973 has elements to it that that likely caused many to reconsider their positions.
The case is described by Berthold Eric Schwartz, M.D. in the July 1974 issue of Flying Saucer Review in his article, “Berserk: A UFO Creature Encounter.” According to Schwartz, he got a call on a Sunday in September from Allan Noe of the Society for the Investigation of the Unexplained (a New Jersey based organization founded by Ivan T. Sanderson) and Stan Gordon, director of the Pennsylvania based Westmoreland County UFO Study Group. They told him they were in the midst of a great deal of activity involving UFOs and creatures. Gordon, in the documentary, Invasion on Chestnut Ridge, describes the activity as “a major UFO-Bigfoot wave.” Read more →
Guest, Jonathan Dover talks about Navajo oral history of Sky People, and his 11 years of officially investigating Bigfoot, Hauntings, Navajo Witchcraft, and UFO's. This includes some fascinating UFO encounters including his own.
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In last week’s blog, we looked at a recent report from the Pampas region of Argentina that involved a missing woman who was found the next day in a town around 65 km from where she was last seen. She reported being in her yard in Jacinto Aráuz, seeing a light, and then suddenly finding herself sitting on a road in the town of Guatraché with no memory of how she got there. The case caught the interest of a local UFO researcher, as it bore a resemblance to an alien abduction case reported in the area in 1983. The researcher was interviewed in connection with the story in the local paper La Arena and the woman’s disappearance was presented in the paper with the alien angle in mind. Since the last blog was posted, the woman has come forward and was interviewed for a video segment hosted on the web based news site Crónica TV. In case there might be any question of whether the presenters had any sort of bias towards the alien explanation for the woman’s experience, the segment is titled “Habló la mujer abducida por un OVNI en La Pampa” which in English, according to Translate at Duck Duck Go, is “Spoke the woman abducted by a UFO in La Pampa.” Read more →
HOUR ONE: Shane Hurd on the Phoenix Lights, joined by Tom King who filmed the them as well as more sightings to this day, and the Shane talks about his book, "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena: A Beginner's Guide to Researching UFOs" and HOUR TWO: Christopher O'Brien on longtime UFO investigations, the current state of UFOlogy, and recent projects.
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Just weeks ago, there was an intriguing incident reported in Argentina involving a woman who went missing and was then found a day later, 65 km from where she was seen last. She had no memory of how she got there, and local residents and Argentinian officials were mystified. The case aroused the interest of a local UFO researcher who noted a similarity to an earlier alien abduction case in the area.
The story first appeared on November 17, in the Pampas newspaper La Arena. An article headlined, “Buscan a mujer que desapareció en Jacinto Aráuz” (Looking for a woman that disappeared in Jacinto Aráuz) reports that police and volunteer firefighters were involved in an extensive search the night before for a woman in her 50s who had been reported missing by her husband. A relative of the woman told La Arena that several calls were made from the missing woman’s mobile phone to her relatives and children, but only the sound of wind was heard when they answered. Read more →
Guest, John Ramirez Retired CIA Officer discusses an unclassified meeting he attended about ‘modern human origins’, his personal thoughts on the subject, his own personal experiences, and the UFO connection of him and several of colleagues that led to their careers.
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Here is the Albert Wain complete UFO encounter noted: https://youtu.be/AdH4zfVEyUI
In 1973, there was a worldwide wave of UFO associated humanoid encounters. Arguably, the most famous of these was the alleged abduction in Pascagoula, Mississippi, of Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker. They reported being forcibly taken aboard a craft by three, approximately five-foot-tall, robot-like, elephant-skinned creatures with crab claw-like hands, no eyes, a slit for a mouth and cone-shaped protrusions where the nose and ears would be on an earthly creature. While the creatures described by Hickson and Parker are unique in UFO literature, what is common to the 1973 humanoid wave is that most of the creatures described were unique. One report that stands out came from the city of Vilvoorde in Belgium. It was investigated by the Societé Belge d’Etude des Phénomènes Spatiaux, and an article describing the reported encounter written by Jean-Luc Vertongen appears in the SOBEPS journal, Inforespace No. 18, 1974. It was translated by Gordon Creighton and included in Flying Saucer Review, Vol. 20, No. 6.
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Guest Peter Slattery discusses his encounters since a young age, how he interacts, and his thoughts on what this may be about. Not just UFOs, but other facets of what is considered 'paranormal'. He also discusses his film, Multidimensional which is out on various platforms.https://www.amazon.com/Multidimensional-Peter-Maxwell-Slattery/dp/B09JLB2ZGS
In 1957, the same year the Soviets launched Sputnik, British authorities, media, and citizenry had their attention drawn back down to Earth as they attempted to unravel the mystery of a flying saucer said to have been found laying in a moor. It was dismantled, studied, and opinions were divided between its having come from space and its having been manufactured right here on Earth. Over time, the saucer went missing, but the mystery as to its origin remained. Then, in 2018, pieces of the saucer and its mysterious contents were found in the archives of the Science Museum in London.
The case was first reported in the December 9, 1957 Yorkshire Post in an article headlined “Mystery Object Found on Scarborough Moors” with the sub-headline “Has Unusual Hieroglyphics.” It was written about in detail in the March-April 1958 issue of Flying Saucer Review.
According to the Flying Saucer Review article headlined “The Silpho Moor Mystery,” a man “who writes under the pen name Antony Avendel” had examined an object discovered lying in Silpho Moor near Scarborough. The object is described as being shaped like a top, weighing 35 pounds, having a diameter of 18 inches, and having hieroglyphics on its outside. It was made of a double skin of 3/16” copper. A “burnt powdery substance” was found inside along with a copper book rolled up and inserted into a coil of copper tubing. The book was made of 17 copper sheets containing over 2000 words “engraved in phonetic-type symbols.”
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Guest, Dean Alioto discusses how he decided to take UFOlogy seriously when he truly realized there was something to it, and talks about how he looks at the phenomenon now, his journey along the way that all started from the McPherson Tape, the original "found footage" movie he crated in 1989. Callers with an encounter and one with an insight on nukes.
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Beginning in October 1987, there was a UFO flap in Wytheville, Virginia. Thousands of people in the area reported seeing extraordinary things in the sky, but the most commonly told story that came out of the flap centers around a single witness who, it seems, was singled out for harassment by some unknown entity or organization.
On October 7, 1987, reporter Danny Gordon of radio station WYVE called the county sheriff, as he regularly did, to see if the sheriff had any news for him that day. The sheriff told Gordon that three deputies, all ex-military, had reported seeing a UFO that day. According to Gordon in the course of his appearance in a segment devoted to the Wytheville flap in Season 4, Episode 18 of Unsolved Mysteries, the story was used as what he calls a “ha-ha” piece at the end of that day’s newscast. Read more →
Show guest Luis Jimenez along to celebrate our ten years of Podcast UFO, we will be hearing from Stephen Bassett 17:52 (our very 1st episode guest), Alejandro Rojas 2:47:35 (former UFO newscaster) Michael Lauck 1:13:32 (former UFO newscaster, blog writer), Clas Svahn 4:08, Leslie Kean 1:36:52, Dean Alioto 15:00, Lee Speigel 1:01:12, David Marler 1:47:28, Bryce Zabel 1:06:40, Jennifer Stein 41:09, Peter Robbins 56:17, John Greenewald, Jr 36:44, Travis Walton 1:10:02, Kathleen Marden 33:00, Jr, Richard Cutting 55:27, Stan Gordon 1:04:37, Calvin Parker 1:16:30, Philip Mantle 1:16:30, Ben Hansen 1:20:55, Robert Powell 1:02:36, Chris Lambright 1:24:36, Kevin Randle 9:02, Sam Maranto 46:35, Linda Zimmermann 1:39:52, Dr Michael Masters 1:51:06, Irene Previn 1:32:22, Chase Kloetzke 16:12, Paul Eno 54:07, Greg Bishop 3:02:20, Ben Moss & Tony Angiola 1:42:45, Jordan Bonaparte 43:45, Preston Dennett 1:30:30, David O’Leary 1:54:56 , Bill Skywatcher 1:00, Dave Altman 14:05, longtime listeners Scott Sykora 34:10, Peggy Shunning 1:44:09, Bobby Hernandez, 1:49:52. ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION in the last hour starting at 1:59:15 (includes: Luis Jimenez, Chris Lambright, David Marler, Dr. Michael Masters, Irene Previn, Linda Zimmermann, David O'Leary, Ben Moss & Tony Angiola, Dean Alioto, Alejandro Rojas & Greg Bishop)
One of the most famous early abduction cases is that of Travis Walton in late 1975, which received a lot of attention and still fascinates many people to this day. Walton’s case was investigated primarily by the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization. In the midst of that investigation, APRO was contacted by Johnny Sands, a country western singer who claimed he had encountered two humanoids in the desert outside of Las Vegas, Nevada. It is perhaps because of the attention given to the Walton case, that Sand’s case has all but been forgotten. I might also be because it’s seriously weird.
According to Sands, in his report to APRO and in subsequent interviews with researcher Timothy Green Beckley, he was in Vegas to promote a new record with some live shows. He had been visiting the towns surrounding Las Vegas to see how much his record was being played on local radio and how many jukeboxes it was in, and on January 29, 1976 (Sands didn’t recall the exact date with Beckley), he had been in Pahrump, Nevada.
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After observing the MUFON Field Investigator Boot Camp, Martin is broadcasting from location in Mesa, Arizona with Stacey Wright, Marianne Robb, Marc D'Antonio, Tara Diulus, Earl Door, Dave Rich with past show guests Matthew Roberts & Karen Brard along with local friends of the show, Dave Sestili and Jennifer.
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Of all the private organizations devoted to UFO investigation, the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena was arguably the most ambitious and tenacious. This was driven in large part by its director, Donald Keyhoe. Keyhoe held the beliefs that UFOs are extraterrestrial and that the U.S. Government, particularly the Air Force, was keeping information from the public that could possibly prove the ET hypothesis. As effective as NICAP was at hounding the Air Force and convincing many in the U.S. Congress that UFOs were deserving of scientific study, there are indications that the CIA was involved in both the beginning and the end of the organization.
Todd Zechel wrote about the CIA – NICAP connection in the January 1979 issue of Just Cause, the newsletter put out by Citizens Against UFO Secrecy. NICAP was incorporated in 1956, and two men Zechel argues were covert CIA operatives were put into chair positions within the organization. One of these men was Bernard J. O. Carvalho, who was made the chairman of NICAP’s membership subcommittee According to Zechel, Carvalho worked as a “front man” for companies secretly run by the CIA. The other was “Count” Nicolas de Rochefort, who was made Vice-Chairman of NICAP. According to Zechel, de Rochefort worked with the CIA’s Psychological Warfare Staff. Zechel tells the reader “there is more than ample evidence to conclusively establish both de Rochefort and Cavalho were at least during certain periods of their lives covert employees of the Central Intelligence Agency.”
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Guest Chris Pittman on historical North American UFO sightings, early mankind, the Bridgewater Triangle. Why took a break from the topic and where he thinks "THEY" may be from.
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Guest Dr. Irena Scott on her new book ‘BEYOND PASCAGOULA-THE REST OF THE AMAZING STORY’ where she interviews newfound witnesses and she also speaks about her own encounters, one happened during the time she was traveling and at the time she had a top secret clearance for the DIA.
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In the hunt for proof that strange vehicles are flying through our atmosphere, possibly under the guidance of alien pilots, researchers have long looked to photographs. There are some, such as the McMinnville photos, that have become classics that continue to spark debate. Many have been passed through time by newspaper articles, books, magazines, documentaries, and websites. Of course, along with the photo, there is the story of the photographer, though getting that story straight might prove difficult.
In October of 1952, a story went across the newswires that a man in Italy had claimed to have taken pictures of a flying saucer and its occupant while climbing in the Bernina section of the Italian Alps. He told reporters that he saw a flying saucer land on a glacier. According to him, “a human shape wearing some sort of diving suit” got out, walked around the ship, and then got back in. The saucer rose up and “it took off without a sound at breathtaking speed.” He said he sold the photos to a French magazine.
The man was 29-year-old Italian engineer Gianpietro Monguzzi. His story is told in detail and his pictures are presented in the Sept.-Oct. 1958 issue of Flying Saucer Review. According to the article “Monguzzi Takes Saucer Photos of the Century,” written by Lou Zinstag, Monguzzi (first name given as Giampiero by Zinstag) worked as an engineer in Monza, near Milan, and was a member of the Edison Society of Italy. On July 31, 1952, he was hiking in the Bernina Mountains with his wife when they came across an object, shaped like a flying saucer, sitting on a glacier. Moguzzi wanted to get closer, but his wife was frightened and insisted he stay with her. He did so and took a series of pictures showing the saucer on the ground, a humanoid walking around it, and two “excellent photos of the ship’s departure.” Monguzzi ended up with a total of seven photos. At the top of the article, in a photo with a number two written on it, the saucer and the humanoid are both seen to have antennas.
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Vietnam War veteran, Alfred J. Quiroz his UFO/USO incidents while he served in the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War. Alfred dropped out (neighborhood internet outage) and callers for the end of the show, including Linda Zimmermann.
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by Charles Lear
In the 1980s, New York’s Hudson River Valley was home to a wave of extraordinary UFO encounters by thousands of people. It was explained away as a hoax perpetrated by a group of nighttime pilots in ultralights and this was enough to make it fade from the public consciousness, even among those in the UFO community. However, one town in the area has kept the memory of the events alive with a yearly fair and a recently opened UFO museum.
A book about the wave, “Night Siege” by J. Allen Hynek, Philip Imbrogno, and Bob Pratt, was published in 1998. Hynek died in 1986 before the book was published but actively investigated and contributed to the book. His wife, Mimi, helped edit the book after his death.
According to “Night Siege,” the wave began in Kent, New York, on New Year’s Eve 1982 with a sighting by a retired New York City police officer identified by the pseudonym,“Tony Vallor. He’d just christened his new house by smashing a champagne bottle against it, and his wife had sent him back outside to clean up the broken glass after he’d told her about it. As he was cleaning up the glass, he saw a group of red, green, and white lights to the south. At first he thought he was seeing a jet having trouble but it was moving too slowly to be a jet. Read more →
Guest Dr Robert Gross talks about Native American culture and space exploration as well as changes in the last few years on how the world views the topic of UAPs/UFOs and the potential for learning.
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From February 17 to February 24, 1954, President Dwight D. Eisenhower was in Palm Springs, California, on what was described to the public as a “vacation.” On February 20, he disappeared from public view and rumors spread to the point that the headline, “Pres. Eisenhower died tonight of a heart attack in Palm Springs.,” appeared on the Associated Press newswire. The story was removed two minutes later and the AP reported that he was still alive. UFOlogists have speculated on where he was that day, and some have come to the conclusion that Eisenhower went to Muroc Air Force Base for a secret meeting with alien visitors.
The earliest mention of Eisenhower and aliens being at Muroc appears in a letter from Gerald Light to Meade Layne, founder of the Borderland Sciences Research Association. Now a foundation, BSRF has preserved the letter, and the date on the link is April 16, 1954. The letter opens with this:
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Guest, Neil Nixon with a skeptical view of the UFO topic, his thoughts on some well known and not so well known incidents, and his latest book: UFOs, Aliens and the Battle for the Truth, A SHORT HISTORY OF UFOLOGY.
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UFO documentaries, besides being informative and entertaining, also serve to preserve UFO history for future researchers. However, one documentary, “UFOs: It Has Begun.” has itself become a part of UFO history. One of its producers has claimed that the U.S. Department of Defense offered him and his partner the use of some film footage taken by the Air Force at Holloman Air Force Base. According to him, it showed a UFO landing and a meeting between its occupants and Air Force officials, and it was going to be the finale of the documentary until the DoD withdrew the offer at the last minute.
The movie was originally released in 1974 as “UFOs: Past Present and Future.” It was written primarily by Robert Emenegger, who also produced it along with Allan Sandler. It has Rod Serling as its main narrator, and there are appearances by Burgess Meredith, Jose Ferrer, Jaques Vallée. and J. Allen Hynek. In 1976 and 1979 it was re-released under its new title.
The story of the film’s beginning is as follows: Emenegger and Sandler had originally set out to produce a series of films about advanced military technology but were diverted by an intriguing piece of information offered by their military contact, Paul Shartle, with whom they were working at Norton Air Force Base. Shartle, Security Manager and Chief of Requirements for the Audio-Visual Program at the base, said he had seen a film of an alien craft landing at Holloman AFB three years previous. As discussions about possible projects continued, the idea that one of them be about UFOs came up and was encouraged by military officials who offered the producers the use of the footage. Emenegger and Sandler decided to go ahead with a UFO documentary, and the film was made.
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Lee Speigel on for the first few minutes, then guest, Trey Hudson to discuss his book, “The Meadow Project: Explorations into the South’s Skinwalker Ranch” will take you along the amazing journey from its discovery to the most recent investigations. He also does a deep dives into UFO hotspots and areas of strangeness such as: The Hessdalen Valley in Norway, the Hoia-Baciu Forest in Romania, Japan’s Aokigahara Forest, the Mesa Verde dwellings in New Mexico, Stardust Ranch near Rainbow Valley, Arizona and of course the legendary Skinwalker Ranch in Utah, USA.
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Show guest, Bryce Zabel & last minute invite, Kathleen Marden on legendary UFO Encounter Anniversary of Betty & Barney Hill. Bryce broaches some controversy involving John Luttrell Sr from a journalistic view, speaks about his 10-part series featuring the Hills, and discusses his former series, Dark Skies and more.
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Guest Deb Coyle speaking for the very first time, she grew up in South Africa and moved to the United States as a young adult. Around the age of eight she experienced a schoolyard close encounter of the first kind. In recent years she has felt a renewed interest in closely following the UFO phenomenon. She discusses her encounter and the lifelong impact of the event.
by Charles Lear.
1967 was quite a year in UFO history. In Canada there was the Falcon Lake Incident, where a man with a grid pattern of circular burns on his torso claimed to have gotten them from an ascending UFO, and the Shag Harbour Incident, where a UFO was seen to plunge into the water by citizens and was subsequently searched for by Canadian officials. Meantime, here in the U.S., the Air Force funded UFO study at the University of Colorado headed by Dr. Edward Condon was underway as was a major flap, which included UFOs sighted around nuclear weapons facilities at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana. A bit of history that’s been all but forgotten is an incident that year that involved six grounded flying saucer-shaped objects in England. They caused quite a stir and were examined by the British intelligence service, the Army, the RAF, a bomb disposal unit and police.
On September 4, 1967, British authorities became alarmed as six identical saucer-shaped objects, approximately four feet in diameter and making beeping and hissing noises, were reported to be lying on the ground across England. They were roughly equidistant and lying along the 51.5° parallel running from Kent to Somerset.
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First half hour, Robert Salas comes on to make an announcement about his fundraiser (Robert Salas UFO GoFundMe) for the National Press Club on October 19. His goal is for the U.S. Congress to hold public hearings on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP). The featured guest Martin Keller discusses that the world is hopefully witnessing the Big Thaw about the UFO/UAP subject in mainstream media, the military and in government. His book: The Space Pen Club – a timely historical, cultural and true personal story – takes readers on a compelling insider’s journey that provides fresh insights into how we got to this point.
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Pilot UFO sightings have been a constant in the world of UFOlogy ever since the sighting in 1947, that started the public fascination with the subject, by Kenneth Arnold, who was flying in his own plane near Mount Rainier in Washington State. Even though these are often single witness sightings, researchers generally take them seriously, as pilots, especially a commercial pilots, risk their reputations and continued employment by coming forward. But, what about airplane passengers? In the case of passenger sightings, you often have multiple witnesses, or at least one witness that can corroborate the pilot report.
An instance where a passenger witness came forward to back up a pilot report occurred in 1948 in the case of the classic Chiles-Whitted UFO encounter. On July 24, 1948, pilot Clarence Chiles and co-pilot John Whitted, were flying a DC-3 over Alabama. At about 2:45 a.m., Chiles spotted a red glow up ahead and brought Whitted’s attention to what he assumed was an Army jet. It closed in on the DC-3 quickly, shot past the right side of the plane, and then, with a burst of flame coming out of its rear, climbed up into the clouds. The pilots reported that the object was torpedo-shaped, had no wings, was 100 feet long, and 25 to 30 feet in diameter. Passenger Clarence L. McKelvie added to the credibility of the sighting by reporting that he saw a bright light streak by his window at that time. He later appeared in the documentary, “UFOs: It Has Begun,” (A 1976 and 1979 re-release of the 1974 documentary “UFOs: Past, Present, and Future.”) and there he says he spoke with one of the pilots and his description matches theirs. Read more →
Special Monday show, guests Barry Greenwood, David Marler and Jan Aldrich together at David Marler's UFO Archives. Three icons of UFO research together for a fantastic show.
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On February 9, 2021, at around 10:30 p.m., a helicopter pilot with U.S. Customs and Border Protection flying over Tucson, Arizona, reported to air traffic control that he had just had a near collision with a drone. A Tucson Police Department helicopter was sent into the area and the two helicopters followed the object and attempted to determine the location of whoever might be operating it. While it was described as a drone and a quad-copter, it was mostly tracked using night vision, and the only visual description was of a blinking green light. If it was indeed a drone, it attained an altitude well above the 400 foot limit set by the FAA, performed extraordinary evasive maneuvers, and had a power source that lasted far longer than a normal drone battery.
The story was first reported on May 20, 2021, by Dan Marries of KOLD News who described the “drone” as having attained an altitude of 14,000 feet, staying aloft for over an hour, and being “heavily modified.” A May 21, 2021, Associated Press article reports that the FBI had begun an investigation and was treating the incident as a case of illegal drone operation. It was thought that the “drone” had launched from an area about five miles south of Tucson.
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Guest David Marceau witnessed in 1992 an Oblong-shaped UFO fly over the Canadian army base in New Brunswick where he was stationed. The otherworldly craft appeared to be over an acre long. David discusses what it was like then, how he felt about it over the years and why he finally decided to speak about it.
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Throughout modern UFO history, there have been periods when a large number of reports have come from one area. These were termed UFO “flaps” by Air Force UFO investigators working for Project Blue Book. According to former Project Blue Book Director in his 1956 book “The Report on Unidentified Flying Objects,” in Air Force parlance, a flap was a state of confusion just below panic that could be brought on by any number of things. This week, we’ll look at a 1965 flap in the Virginia area that involved reported EM effects, creatures, and armed citizens ready to defend the planet.
Newspaper clippings and comments by investigators about the events can be found at the UFO History Group website. The flap actually began in 1964 with the December 21st sighting by Harrisonburg, Virginia, gunsmith Horace Burns. According to the report, he was driving on Route 250 near Fishersville when he saw a huge metallic object in the sky coming from the north. As it landed in a field to his right, his car stalled, and he drifted to a stop.
Burns described the object as shaped like a beehive, 125 ft in diameter, and 80 ft tall. He observed it as it rested for 60 to 90 seconds and then rose up and flew away to the northeast. He was able to restart his car and drive home.
Burns contacted the UFO Investigators Club at Eastern Mennonite College. Club President Ernest Gehman, who was a professor at the College and a member of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, checked the area with a Geiger counter and claimed to have found heavy radioactivity. He also reported that homeowners in the area had complained to the Virginia Electric and Power Co. that their radios and televisions stopped working for several minutes and that their lights dimmed. Read more →
Avi Loeb for an update on The Galileo Project, Marc D'Antonio on his new SkyTour LiveStream West's LIVE Arizona Observatory, as well as a new Alien Invasion: Hudson Valley documentary on Discovery+, joined by Ted Roe to elaborate on his recent discussion and recommendations of UAP research to the aviation and astronautic research community.
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Many readers may be familiar with the controversial case of the Gulf Breeze, Florida, UFO photographs taken in 1987 by local contractor Ed Walters. The photos were clear and detailed and stirred up a great deal of excitement within the UFO community. Some, such as former Navy optical physicist turned UFO researcher Dr. Bruce Maccabee, believed the photos were genuine, while others believed they were hoaxed.
Then, in 1990, after Walters and his family had moved from their home at the time, the new owners found a Styrofoam model of a UFO in the attic. Pensacola News Journal reporter Craig Meyers was able to closely duplicate Walters’s photos using the model, and Walters responded to hoax allegations by claiming the model had been planted after he left.
What readers may not be familiar with is a saga that unfolded around the Gulf Breeze incident involving six soldiers, all intelligence analysts, who went AWOL from a U.S. Army Intelligence unit in Augsburg, West Germany. They became known as “The Gulf Breeze Six,” and their story is… something.
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Guest Don Heiden discusses while metal detecting near the Florida Panhandle thirty years ago, he and his friend had a very strange Tic Tac UFO encounter. When Commander Dave Fravor described what he witnessed in 2004, Don realized what he saw matched Fravor's description.
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New Mexico is famous for its reports of landed (and crashed) UFOs and associated creatures. While many might think that these sorts of reports have long since ceased since the golden age of UFOs, there was a report just a couple of years ago of creatures and a huge landed craft in the mountains of Taos, NM.
According to an article by Staci Matlock in the September 5, 2019 Taos News, days before, on September 1, two bow hunters, Josh Brinkley, 41, and Daniel Lucero, 26, were looking for elk on Pot Mountain northwest of Taos. Brinkley had been coming to the mountain for fifteen years while it was the first visit for Lucero.
They set up on opposite sides of a field and waited for three hours with no luck. At around 9:30 a.m., Brinkley became restless and went walking through the woods looking for elk there. He got to the top of the mountain, which was the rim of a collapsed volcano known as a caldera. There, he saw what he thought were two fellow hunters about 35 yards away. He was preparing to speak to them when they disappeared. According to him, “They were gone, just gone.”
The more Brinkley thought about the figures he had seen, the less like hunters they seemed. He saw only their torsos above the brush that covered their lower half. They seemed to have been wearing large hoods that had what looked like pairs of ribbons on both sides that came to a point at the top and bottom. The left side was white and somewhat shiny and the right side was black. He described their torsos as “kind of black.”
Brinkley went back down the mountain and met up with Lucero. He didn’t tell Lucero what he’d seen until they were back at camp.
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Martin Willis and Bill Skywatcher ramble on and take calls from listeners. Interesting encounters and opinions from listeners as well as Bill's personal sightings.
From the days of flying saucers in the 1940s and 1950s, up until the present where many now prefer the term “unidentified aerial phenomena” (UAP), investigators and researchers have approached the mystery using scientific methods. However, this is not the case for all who have sought answers as to the source and purpose of the reported encounters with strange things in our skies. Many have turned to esotericism, in addition to science, as a means of inquiry. This approach has actually been present from the very beginning of modern UFOlogy and those interested in the subject might consider looking into it, even if only from a historical or sociological perspective.
Esoteric is defined by the Merriam-Webster dictionary as “designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone.” When one talks of esotericism in association with UFOs or the paranormal, one is usually referring to what has become known as “Western Esotericism” which is a term used to describe a loosely connected group of religious and philosophical ideas that deviate from Judeo-Christian beliefs and post-Enlightenment rationalism. By the late 19th century, organized groups and secret societies had developed around these esoteric ideas, two of the most prominent being the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and the Theosophical Society. Both of these adhered to the belief that there is a group of cosmic beings that can be contacted by adepts who wish to receive ancient wisdom and advice. The Theosophical Society still exists today.
Arguably, the first group to investigate claims of a mysterious flying object, was the Borderland Sciences Research Association. Formed in Southern California by Meade Layne along with Max Freedom Long, BSRA was an association dedicated to paranormal research and included parapsychologists, spiritualists, and Theosophists. Their research methods included Yoga, Qabalistic technique, and spirit channeling. Their main spirit channeler was Mark Probert, the “Telegnostic from San Diego.” The group put out its first newsletter, the Round Robin, in February 1945. It wasn’t long before they were investigating what they called, “The Ether Ship Mystery.”
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Exceptional discussion with multi-award-winning investigative Australian journalist, Ross Coulthart to discusses inside information about what the Pentagon knows about UFO/UAP's. Apparently, if this is to be believed, the Air Force knows quite a bit more than it has let on.
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Guest Paul Ascough discusses the bigger picture with all of its complexities and is interlaced with many of the authors own sightings throughout his life.
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In the 1970s, New York artist and UFO investigator Budd Hopkins began to specialize in abduction research after being confronted by multiple reports. He wrote about his research in the 1981 book “Missing Time” and it wasn’t long after the book was published that people started to be featured in the press and on television with claims of their own abduction experiences. In an interview for the PBS series “Nova,” Hopkins stated that his “best case” was one that involved witnesses who claimed to have seen a woman accompanied by three small humanoids float out of a 12th story apartment in Manhattan and into a waiting craft close to the Brooklyn Bridge. The woman who was reportedly seen was originally identified by Hopkins as “Linda Cortile” (now known to be Linda Napolitano) and the case has become known as the “Linda Case” or the “Brooklyn Bridge Abduction Case.”
Hopkins described the “Linda Case” in his 1996 book, “Witnessed.” According to him, Linda had written him a letter in spring of 1989 after reading his 1987 book, “Intruders.” In the letter she described seeing strange nighttime visitors while lying paralyzed in bed as a child. She also wrote that she was asked by a doctor about what looked like evidence of surgery inside her nose as he was dealing with some built up cartilage that caused a lump that had concerned her. She wrote that she had never had surgery in her nose and that this was confirmed by her mother.
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Guest Chris Spark discusses why science is a tremendously valuable contribution to humankind, but it has limits when it comes to the deepest questions, like those about UFOs and other ways in which science can and cannot offer explanations for these type of things in our world.https://www.amazon.com/dp/1736910701
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Four friends studying at the Massachusetts College of Art, Chuck Rak, Charlie Foltz and twins Jim and Jack Weiner, set out from Boston for a wilderness vacation in late August 1976. They were dropped off in northern Maine by pontoon plane and canoed through the Allagash Waterway. On the night of Thursday, August 26 the men, all art students, were night fishing on Eagle Lake. In order to easily find their way back to their campsite in the dark, they had prepared a large log bonfire as a beacon to mark their camp. Shortly after they began trout fishing a glowing oval object was spotted rising above the forest. Charlie Foltz signaled to the object with a flashlight which apparently caused it to stop its ascent and slowly move towards the students’ canoe. Read more →
After guest Lieutenant Colonel (retired) Chris Lehto heard that the FLIR1, GOFAST, and GIMBAL videos were debunked he came forward with his opinion. He was an F-16 pilot for 18 years and had done hundreds of these types of intercepts with this almost exact equipment. The "experts" that have been appearing on TV and YouTube have obviously never actually used these systems before.
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Many countries around the world have active, state funded, long-term UFO studies. If the United States Congress follows up on the recommendation in the recently released Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force report that “additional funding for research and development could further the future study of the topics laid out in this report,” the U.S. may soon have one as well. The U.S. has had two acknowledged, publicly funded UFO investigations in the past. One was run by the Air Force under the name of “Project Blue Book” for most of its existence from 1948 until 1969, and the other by the Pentagon from 2007 until 2012 as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. While the 21-year run for the Air Force investigation may seem substantial, the investigation funded by the French government has lasted more than twice as long.
The group studying UFOs in France is now operating as Groupe d’Etude et Information des Phénomènes Aérospatiaux Non-identifiés or GEIPAN. The group was first called Groupe d’Etude des Phénomènes Aérospatiaux Non-identifiés, or GEPAN, when it was started in 1977, and then Service d’Expertise des Phénomènes de Rentrée Atmérique, or SEPRA from 1988 to 2004. GEIPAN operates as part of the French Space Agency, Centre National d’Études Spatiales, or CNES. Read more →
Guest Paul Kirsch, discusses a theory for the quantum physics of interstellar travel, ideas originally put forth by Michael Miller and Larry Maurer and assembled by Paul in his book: "Blueprint for Interstellar Travel". Paul also talks about his interest in UFOs, certain sightings and how ideas have began from observation and what the observers have claimed as downloads.
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Stories of UFOs and aliens have long been associated with tabloid newspapers, often with ridiculous headlines, dubious claims, and photos that only the most credulous could take seriously. While these might be considered innocuous pieces of entertainment by many, for the serious UFO researcher they make it harder to convince a skeptical public that the subject is deserving of careful scrutiny. One of the most famous and long lasting of the tabloids is the National Enquirer, and while it might not be considered to be a bastion of journalistic integrity, it launched Bob Pratt, who was a staff reporter for the paper, into a lifelong occupation (not always paid) as a serious UFOlogist. Read more →
THREE-HOUR SHOW. On location Warner Homestead, Great Barrington, Massachusetts. All first-hand witnesses, two of which will speaking for the first time. Featuring: Tom Warner, Author & Artist, Mike Sisino, Retired 30-year Vermont State Police, Marisol Lopez, Artist & Photographer and former neighbor, witness, Jane Shaw.
It’s official: unidentified aerial phenomena exist, the Pentagon takes the subject seriously, but no there one can say if aliens are involved. This is according to the unclassified report from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that was delivered to Congress this past Friday.
The fact that Congress is interested in the subject of what have long been known as UFOs has gotten quite a bit a media attention ever since the report was commissioned in legislation passed in 2020. But, this is not the first time Congress has shown an interest in the subject; in the 1960’s UFOs were discussed in Congress on two occasions, both times prompted by concerns that publicly funded UFO studies were not being taken seriously. Read More →
A quick 15 minute show this week on Kevin Randle weighing in on the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Kevin's book: https://amzn.to/3dzwLkk
Note: Interview with Zen Benefiel was removed due to the massive amount of listener complaints. For those who wish to watch it: https://fb.watch/6u5La1tsoi/
Because of all the media coverage regarding the Pentagon UFO videos, an extraordinary video reportedly captured by Department of Homeland Security personnel has fallen into the background. It has become known as the “Aguadilla” video and the identity of the object caught on video remains a mystery.
The case was investigated by the Scientific Coalition for UFOlogy (now the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies) and a report was written that is available on the group’s website. According to the report, at around 9:30 p.m. on April 25, 2013, the departure of a commercial aircraft was delayed due to an unknown object flying at low altitude across the runway at Rafael Hernandez Airport in Aquadilla, Puerto Rico. In the area at the time was an airborne U.S. Customs and Border Patrol aircraft and the crew managed to capture infrared video of the object
The SCU investigators describe having obtained a copy of the video from an official source who insisted on remaining anonymous. The authors state that the individual’s identity, background, and employment were all verified and that “extensive efforts were made to ensure that this video did not contain any classified information.” Read more →
Preston Dennett back on to speak about his new book: Wondrous: 25 True UFO Encounters. Published for the first time, these true firsthand accounts cover the gamut of the UFO phenomenon: sightings, USOs, landings, face-to-face meetings with ETs, onboard UFO encounters, and whistleblower stories revealing shocking secrets the government doesn’t want you to know.
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Wherever there are UFOs, there are UFO enthusiasts, and since there are UFOs everywhere, UFO enthusiasts can be found everywhere as well. This week we’ll look at Indonesia, where members of that region’s largest UFO organization have recently offered their opinion to the local press on the upcoming Pentagon UAP Task Force unclassified report due to come out later this month.
An article written by Wulan Kusuma Wardhani and posted online for The Jakarta Post on Monday, June 7, 2021, is headlined, “Not a cult: Indonesia’s biggest UFO-community BETA-UFO weighs in on U.S. government report.” The two people speaking for the organization are 55-year-old Nur Agustinas and 48-year-old Anugerah Sentot Sudono. Agustinus was a cofounder of BETA-UFO IN 1997 along with Bayu Yunantias Amus and several others, and Sudono is described as a “senior member” in the article.
BETA is an acronym for “Benda Terbang Aneh,” which is Indonesian for “Unidentified Flying Object.” The term was introduced in the 1960s by Jacob Salutan, founder of the Indonesian National Institute of Aeronautics and Space. Salutan was a vice air marshal in the Indonesian Air Force and started Studi UFO Indonesia (Indonesian UFO Studies/SUFOI). He wrote two books on UFOs: “UFO: Salah Satu Masalah Dunia Masa Kini” (UFO: One of the Current World Problems) and “Menyingkap Rahasia Piring Terbang” (Unveiling the Secrets of UFOs). As of this writing, SUFOI appears to be inactive.
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Guest Matthew Roberts discusses when he was aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt for the events that brought the now declassified Gimbal & Go Fast UAP videos then his own personal experience since that time and how it changed everything, then Kevin Knuth joins in they both discuss the upcoming UAP Task Force Report, as well as both speak on scientists lack of curiosity in what could be the greatest revelation of all time.
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This past Memorial Day, May 31, 2021, UFO and paranormal researcher Timothy Green Beckley passed on. He was a colorful character who stood out in a field full of colorful characters, and while he might not have been the most serious of researchers, he was part of a circle of legendary characters from the days of flying saucers that included James Moseley, Gray Barker, and John Keel.
Records of Beckley’s age at the time of his passing range from 65 to 69. According to the IMDb, he was born on March 4, 1952 as Jeremy Stone. In addition to his interest in the paranormal, he was an actor in and producer of soft-core porn/horror movies and was known to fans as “Mr. Creepo.” He wrote and published many books on the paranormal with a definite sensationalized bent and was active in the community up until his death. According to what is believed to be his self-authored bio, “Tim Beckley had so many careers that even his own girlfriend didn’t know what he did for a living… Timothy Green Beckley has been described as the Hunter Thompson of UFOlogy by the editor of UFO magazine Nancy Birnes.” His bio contains the claims that his life was saved by an invisible force at the age of three, he started having out of body experiences at the age of six, he had his first UFO sighting at age ten, and had two more after that in the course of his life.
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First hand witness Caz Clarke discusses the The Pentyrch UFO Incident which happened in February of 2016, over the Welsh village of Pentyrch, there was military intervention and a purported crashing in the outskirts of Llantrisant, Wales. (note: apologies for poor audio)
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It is often the case with UFO investigators that once they get to an area where a UFO has been reported, the UFO is long gone, and all they can do is interview witnesses. This is important as a means of creating a record of the case that can be referred to by future investigators and researchers. But, occasionally an investigator gets the chance to be a witness and actually observe what had been reported. This happened to investigator Lee Speigel who was looking into a series of sightings by as many as thirty police officers and 50 civilians in Lumberton, North Carolina in 1975. Spiegel submitted a report on the case to the director of the Center for UFO Studies and former Project Blue Book scientific consultant, J. Allen Hynek. The case file resides in the archives housed by David Marler in New Mexico.
Along with Speigel’s report and contemporary newspaper clippings, there is also a series of paper slips in the file folder containing call information, presumably filled out at a CUFOS UFO call center. (If anyone can confirm this, please comment.) According to Speigel’s report, a violent thunderstorm in the area ended at 1:35 a.m. on April 3, 1975. A “call slip” in the case file has the information that at 1:45 a.m., Sheriff Ronn Thompson was monitoring the radio while working as the dispatcher at the Robeson County Sheriff’s Office in Lumberton when the first report of a strange object came in. It was seen by Robeson County Officer Phil Stanton and then by two officers from St. Paul. All three described the object as v-shaped with red, blue, and clear lights. A slip with 5:15 a.m., filled in for the time has the information that two Sampson County officers saw a similar object that put a spotlight on them as it moved off. One of the officers “clocked it” at 200 mph. It appears that there was a full fledge flap after 10:00 p.m. that night because a slip with 10:15-10:30 p.m. filled in for the time has information on the back that officers from four different police departments and 50 “citizens” reported seeing something.
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Filmmaker Ron James discusses the current UFO developments and his thoughts on how things may be orchestrated, and his work on MUFON Television and more.
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For a brief period in the late 1960’s, UFO enthusiasts were encouraged by the fact that some scientists were beginning to take the subject seriously. This was due in large part to renowned atmospheric physicist Dr. James McDonald’s coming forward and publicly acknowledging that he was investigating the mystery. Around the same time, in 1966, Project Blue Book scientific consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek angered many in the state of Michigan by offering the possibility that some of the UFOs reported during a flap that year in the state were swamp gas. This lead to a congressional hearing looking into the Air Force’s handling of the UFO problem, and that resulted in an Air Force funded scientific study at the University of Colorado headed by physicist Dr. Edward U. Condon. This was something many in the UFO community had been hoping for, and they were optimistic that something positive might come of it. Unfortunately, the project ran into personality problems that nearly derailed it.
An article written by John G. Fuller and published in the May 14, 1968, issue of Look Magazine looks deeply into the matter. Under the headline “Flying Saucer Fiasco,” the article is introduced as “The extraordinary story of the half-million-dollar ‘trick’ to make Americans believe the Condon committee was conducting an objective investigation.”
After giving an overview of the project and its participants, Fuller references a story published early October 1966, in the Denver Post. Project Coordinator Robert J. Low, describing the UFO project as a function of the university, was quoted as saying that it “comes pretty close to the criteria of non acceptability.” Read more →
SEGMENT ONE: Jack Bushong, a retired meteorologist for the National Weather Service observed something unexplained UFOs March of 1994 on weather radar while he was working in Muskegon. During the break, Dave Marler says hi, with blogger Charles Lear. SEGMENT TWO: Ian Rogers of the documentary UFO Town, to discuss the controversial The Carp, Ontario Case and more.
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Ralph Blumenthal discusses the 60 Minutes segment on UFOs then main guest Damien Nott, Experiencer, Photographer and Filmmaker speaks bout his documentary, Australian Skies and his new films, “Fractured Realities” and “Haunted Skies!” He also shares his multiple UFO sightings as well as his own terrifying personal experience.
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Guest, Ex-Pentagon official Luis (Lue) Elizondo discusses what it was like as a former intelligence officer with the Department of Defense and the director of AATIP, the Pentagon's secret UFO program. He talks about the dynamics of what has been observed, the USS Nimitz case, and what the government may or may not know about these incursions and more.
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First up, Travis Taylor & Brandon Fugal on the Season Premier night of the HISTORY Channel's "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch, then then the main show guest, Mark Fiorentino shares his views on how the universe really works based on his study and research of Einstein’s Unified Field Theory and how the applications can be used to travel thru space (possible UFO propulsion), renewable energy, and future technology and more.
Thumbnail image: Courtesy of The HISTORY® Channel.
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Listener call-in show, but first, Mick West comes on to talk about what the "Pyramid UFO" really might be, plus Kevin Day talks about the Nimitz Encounter, then Martin was joined by call screener, and KGRA Radio show producer, Bill Skywatcher taking calls about UFO encounters, and much more.
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Tales of UFOs ejecting hot metal go back to the days when flying saucers were just becoming an American national obsession. In fact, the first flying saucer witness, Kenneth Arnold, encountered such a tale when he looked into the Maury Island Incident for Fate magazine and became the first privately funded flying saucer investigator. In this week’s blog, we’ll take a look at an incident that was reported 30 years later in Council Bluffs, Iowa.
According to an article by Jason Offutt for the Eastern Jackson County, Missouri, Daily Examiner published online on February 9, 2011, Mike Moore was driving through Big Lake Park with his wife at 7:45 p.m. on Saturday Dec. 17, 1977, when they saw “this big ball of red stuff in the sky.” Moore said it hovered, dropped something on fire into the park, and then flew away.
According to an article by Richard Warner published on the website of the Historical and Preservation Society of Pottawattamie County (Council Bluffs, Iowa), at 7:45 p.m. that same night, three teenagers driving to a store observed what seems to be the same falling red ball. It went behind some trees in Big Lake Park. Then, there was a bluish-white flash and two “arms of fire” were seen that shot out more than ten feet into the air. Read more →
Martin has a conversation with Kathleen Marden about the 60th anniversary of Betty and Barney Hill’s abduction. She talks about what it was like for them on a personal level, her own experiences and several other related topics. She has recently published the 60th anniversary edition of Captured!
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Reports of UFO sightings and alien encounters come from all over the world, from Australia to Zimbabwe. Place a finger at random on a globe and chances are some sort of UFO history from that area has been recorded. This week, the finger has landed on Finland, and Finland not only has a UFO history but also has active UFO researchers as well.
The history of UFO reports in Finland is much like that of other countries except that it starts earlier than most, dating back to the early 20th century. As was the case for much of Scandinavia, Finland had reports in the 1930s and 1940s of mystery lights, aircraft and rockets.
During the winter between 1933 and 1934, many people in Sweden reported seeing mysterious aircraft, some with bright lights (unusual for the period) that were able to fly in harsh weather conditions, day or night. The Swedish Air Force sent out planes to look for the aircraft, and ski patrols were sent to man mountaintop searchlights. The Finnish Army sent up their own planes, and the first report of “a shining bright light, just like a blowtorch” came from Kemi, a town just east of the Swedish border. The report received a good deal of press coverage and Finnish authorities declared without proof that the light was from something of Russian origin. At a 1937 press conference, spokesmen for the Finnish military declared that all the sightings could be explained by weather formations and inaccurate observations. Read more →
Darcy Weir, joined by Jim Goodall, Stephen Bassett, and Gary King discuss the documentary "Crop Circle Realities", UFOs, Ben Rich, Area 51 and much more!
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Happy April! While April Fools’ Day will have passed by the time this blog is posted, the writer thought it would be fun to look at UFO related April Fools’ jokes. While hoaxes have long been a bane to UFO researchers, hopefully researchers can put aside their disdain for such activity at least one day out of the year and get in touch with their sense of humor. In fact, some have argued that a sense of humor is essential when looking into the paranormal.
An April Fools’ joke that ended up embedded in the UFO mythos as evidence for the existence of aliens involved a photo depicting what has become known as the “Silverman.” Isaac Koi (real name withheld to protect his profession as a barrister) discusses this photo at length on his website. According to his (male possessive pronoun used due to antecedent male seeming name) research, the photo first appeared in the German publication Neue Illustrierte “on or about April 1, 1950 with the title ‘Der Mars-Mensch.’” It was admitted to be a joke a short time later, but that didn’t prevent the photo from showing up in literature and on websites with the claim that it depicts a real alien. For instance, this description appeared in Brazilian UFO mag, n.18, p.18, dec 1991:
Above, one of the most impressive photos of an alleged extraterrestrial creature recovered from crashed UFOs. For many years it was thought the photo originated from a crash in the USA, but recently it was found it was captured in Germany, shortly before the Second World War. The officers who hold the being are high-ranking members of the SS. Read more →
Australia's Irene Previn on Westall UFO Incident's 55th anniversary (April 6, 1966) for 20 minutes and guest, Stan Gordon on the 1973 UFO-Bigfoot wave in Pennsylvania that his teams investigated and another aspect of the UFO phenomena that has been hardly discussed concerns what he has termed: "Mini-UFOs". Stan discusses all sorts of bizarre cases, and speculates to what we may be experiencing.
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The 1959 sightings of Father William Gill in New Guinea, then an Australian territory, were well known and much discussed in the 1960s and 1970s. Given the multiple witnesses over two nights, observation of occupants and the credibility of the reporting witness, an Anglican missionary, it made for a sensational encounter. Even more incredible, the craft and occupants sighted seemed to respond to the witnesses throughout the encounter. The story was featured in Dr. J. Allen Hynek’s The UFO Experience: A Scientific Enquiry and The Hynek UFO Report, the double album UFO Encounters (which features Father Gill telling his story and Hynek’s commentary) and in the 4th issue of Gold Key’s UFO Flying Saucers comic book.
Although area residents seem to have had minor sightings of a bright light earlier in the year, Father Gill’s sightings begin the night of June 26, 1959. He was at his mission in Boianai, Papau, New Guinea and about 6:45 PM he spotted a white light near Venus in the evening sky. Soon this light descended through cloud cover that had moved in as time passed. The light grew larger until it became obvious that it was some type of craft. Read More: https://podcastufo.com/father-william-gills-flashlight-papua-new-guinea-1959/
Guest Ralph Blumenthal discusses his latest book which dives deep into the life of the late Dr. John Mack, a tenured and renown Harvard psychologist. Dr. Mack risked his stellar reputation and career to investigate purported human encounters with alien entities and to give credibility to the bewildering accounts told by people who were utterly convinced they had really happened. Ralph discusses what it took research John Mack, and the people who helped him out.
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A common element of UFO reports is that cars or other vehicles cease functioning during the sighting and often restart on their own after the UFO’s departure. Many researchers have speculated that this is an effect of electromagnetism, possibly related to an advanced system of propulsion. This seems to be a reasonable hypothesis and one that could be tested. All one would need would be a car and a source of electromagnetism. So, the question is, have there been any experiments done in laboratories, and have the results been published in a peer reviewed format?
The case that first brought attention to this aspect of the phenomenon was the 1957 incident involving a series of extraordinary encounters in and around the small farming community of Levelland, Texas. Patrolman Abraham John Fowler was working the evening shift at the Levelland Police Department on the night of November 2, when the first of what would be a series of unusual calls came in.
Just before 11:00 p.m., a farm worker, Pedro Saucedo, called to report a very strange encounter that left him and his co-worker, Joe Salaz, shaken and mystified. According to Saucedo, they were in his pickup truck on their way to a farm ten miles northwest of Levelland. At 10:30 p.m., they turned off Route 116 (now Route 114), four miles west of Levelland, onto a side road. Off to their right, in a field, they saw a bright, blue flash, which drew their attention. The source of the light was a cigar or torpedo-shaped object around 200 feet long. As they watched, the object, glowing blue-green, lifted up and came towards the truck. As it did so, its color changed to bright yellow-white. Saucedo, thinking there was going to be a collision, jumped out and hit the dirt. Salaz remained inside and, fortunately for him, the object went over the truck. As the object passed over, the truck’s engine stalled, and the headlights went out.
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Guests, Frank Feschino & Alfred Lehmberg discuss the bizarre evening of September 12, 1952, what is mostly known as the Flatwoods Monster Incident, but there is a lot more to it.
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As one might expect, astronauts have come upon things in space that they were not able to readily identify. In fact, astronauts have not only reported seeing UFOs, but some, most notably Gordon Cooper and Dr. Edgar Mitchell, have gone so far as to publicly advocate for disclosure and an end to secrecy regarding the subject.
Gordon Cooper described having encounters with UFOs as an Air Force pilot prior to his involvement in the space program. In his 2000 memoir, “Leap of Faith: An Astronaut’s Journey Into the Unknown,” Gordon wrote that he chased saucer-shaped craft when he was stationed in Germany in the 1950s, and that objects flew over the base daily that were faster than known man-made machines. He also claimed to have been given film in 1957 of a saucer that landed at Edwards Air Force Base, which he sent off to the Pentagon and never saw again.
In spite of his alleged UFO encounters in Earth’s atmosphere, Cooper claimed that neither he nor any other astronauts had seen UFOs while in space. According to him, there was nothing to the well-known report that he saw a green glowing object approach his craft during his final orbit in May 1963 aboard Mercury Faith 7 while over Australia.
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Guest Greg Matloff discusses his new book, “Stellar Engineering” in which he explores an intriguing speculation that we might live in a Stapledon/Dyson swarm of alien space habitats within our Solar System’s Kuiper Belt, he further talks on his thoughts on UFOs and more.
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Martin Willis and Phyllis Kao interview with astronaut and artist Alan Bean in 2010. Alan's beautiful artwork comes from the perspective of someone who was in space and the fourth man on the moon on the Apollo 12 Mission in November of 1969. He discusses his methods, using actual moon dust, moon boots, and more in his creations. He also discusses moon landing and other conspiracies, and had a great philosophy in handling it all. Alan Bean 1932-2018 https://www.alanbean.com/ Check out Alan's message: https://www.alanbean.com/message_from_alan_bean.cfm The sound quality was the best I could do in 2010 recording from a speaker phone.
One commonly reported characteristic of UFOs is that they are often seen near nuclear weapons facilities. One would think that this would get the attention of government authorities, and it seems it has. Robert Hastings is a researcher who looked into this aspect of the UFO mystery, and his work caused many people, including those in the media, to take a serious look at it. Then, at the risk of casting doubt on his credibility, Hastings came forward with the claim that he had had an abduction experience. While this upset some of the people who had been encouraged by Hastings to come forward with their stories of UFOs at nuclear facilities, one man told Hastings of abductions reported by men stationed at such facilities.
According to Hastings, he was sixteen when he first became interested in UFOs. He was working as a janitor in the air traffic control tower at Malmstrom Air Force Base in Montana, where his father was stationed. A supervisor called him over to look at a radarscope. When Hastings came over, the supervisor told him they were looking at returns of UFOs. Hastings was intrigued and was told to come back later if he wanted to talk about them, but when he did, the supervisor no longer wanted to discuss the matter.
Hastings later learned from his father that fighter jets had chased the UFOs over the Minuteman missiles that were housed at the base. He then read an article in the Saturday Evening Post about UFOs reported over other nuclear missile sites. He got the impression that what happened at Malmstrom was something real and not unique. He felt there was a connection between UFOs and nuclear weapons, and he began reaching out to military personnel to find evidence. Read more →
Guest Nebojsa Borkovich discusses what it was like sailing across the Pacific Ocean in a 8 meter sailboat and being followed by mysterious objects--UFOs--throughout the voyage.
In last week’s blog, we looked at metals associated with UFO reports that were held up as evidence for extraterrestrial visitation. The cases we examined were from the early days of the UFO mystery and in this week’s blog we’ll look at one that is more recent.
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More Metal From the UFO: the Bob White Object
Guest astrophysicist, Avis Loeb discusses his recent book: 'Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth' which is an openminded theory that the object named Oumuamua that is visiting our solar system may be of Extraterrestrial technological origin. We also discuss Breakthrough Starshot, whose goal is to send a fleet of tiny probes to Alpha Centauri, then Marc D'Antonia joins us for the second hour to add to the discussion.
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From the days of the earliest citizen UFO investigators, metals associated with UFO reports have been held up as evidence for extraterrestrial visitation. Labs have been employed in testing and claims have been made that the results support a non-earthly origin for the material in question. While some of these claims have been dismissed, others continue to be debated.
The first modern UFO era citizen investigator was Kenneth Arnold, who was also the first modern era UFO witness. Arnold had seen a fleet of UFOs while flying near Mt. Rainier on June 24, 1947. Arnold was offered an assignment by publisher, Ray Palmer, who was looking for a good story for the premier issue of his new venture, Fate magazine. Palmer had received a letter describing a sighting near Maury Island, off the coast of Tacoma, Washington. Six donut-shaped craft were reported, one of which seemed to be having difficulties. It discharged hot material that allegedly injured the witness’s son and killed his dog. Palmer asked Arnold to look into the story, and Arnold asked for $200. Palmer wired him the money and Arnold became the world’s first privately funded UFO investigator. Read more →
Guest, Miguel Romero talks about his longtime interest in UFOs, as well as UFOs in Mexico & worldwide incidents, and whether UFOs may have a connection to consciousness plus a lot more.
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In our last blog we looked at reports of 21st century UFO occupants. UFO researchers and investigators have given those that have a roughly human appearance the appropriate name “humanoid.” These creatures seem to be biological, but there have been occasional reports of robots accompanying UFO occupants. A dramatic 1989 report comes from the city of Voronezh in Russia. This involved a 9-12 foot tall humanoid with three eyes, and a small box-shaped robot. They both exited a banana-shaped craft and took a walk in a park in front of terrified onlookers. The incident was reported by the official Tass news agency, picked up by the American Press, and featured in the Oct. 11, 1989 New York Times. An incident that didn’t get much attention from the press, but did get a lot of attention from UFO investigators, was reported in 1964. It involved humanoids and robots in Cisco Grove, California, that displayed actions far more hostile than a stroll in the park.
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Guest Ben Hansen checking in and speaking on the new series that he stars in, Discovery + "UFO Witness". Ben talks about the witnesses and cases, one of which is Calvin Parker of the 1973 Pascagoula Adduction who joined us and stays for the last segment of the show with callers during the last 30 minutes.
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Narrated by Sarah Maxwell
Note: This particular blog was posted on our original website in 2013. It was the genesis of Calvin Parker speaking out on our show for the first time in decades about the incident.
One of the most sensational abduction cases of the 1970s, the Pascagoula Incident remains unsolved to this day. On October 11, 1973 two co-workers out fishing claimed to have been taken by three strange looking aliens into their spaceship, examined and released. The two men attempted to report their encounter to a nearby military base who referred them to the local sheriff. Thinking that the two men could be caught in a lie that would expose a hoax the sheriff left the men together in a room with a hidden microphone after his initial interviews. Much to the surprise of law enforcement, the men did not reveal a hoax but instead had a conversation that just reinforced their claims. The story spread from local media to international wire services and was investigated by Dr. J. Allen Hynek and others. Detractors note that nearby security cameras should have seen the craft the men described but other witnesses have reported seeing the craft on the same night. For the text version with links: https://podcastufo.com/the-1973-pascagoula-incident
Guest Larry Hancock discusses the premise of his book: Unidentified: The National Intelligence Problem of UFOs, his involvement in the search for documents, statistics and analysis of UFO crafts reported, as well as encounters with almost all things nuclear and much more.
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