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Joe (@kafka_esquire) and Spencer (@ohnotsouter)

The movies and the legal world. Like fine wine and trashbag water. Takes on legal movies that are always correct.

New pods every other week. Hosted by Joe (@kafka_esquire) and Spencer (@ohnotsouter). Experts on the law, movies, lying, and repetition.

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00:01:20 - Christmas is overrated fight me

00:07:15 - The Lakewood church was found to have money stuffed in the walls and these Righteous Gemstones storylines are great

00:08:45 - UAW will democratically elect all their leaders and yeah makes sense

00:09:45 - Jodie Foster was actually "a little impressed" with Hinckley so...dudes never give up

00:14:50 - Ghislaine Maxwell trial is on and most likely nothing will change

00:18:10 - Jack is leaving Twitter and please don't become Facebook now

00:19:55 - Malignant may be getting a sequel (hell yeah)

00:20:45 - Spotify wrapped came out and sorry Rogan new boss is in town

00:22:05 - House of Gucci came out and I may see it just cause Ridley Scott is the man on his press tour

00:23:50 - The Beatles Get Back is out and it's good but better if you're a huge Beatles fan

00:26:00 - UPCOMING MOVIES THAT WE ARE HYPED FOR

  • The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
  • Benedetta
  • Scream
  • The Tragedy of Macbeth
  • The Black Phone
  • Jackass Forever
  • The Batman
  • Legally Blonde 3
  • John Wick 4
  • Top Gun: Maverick
  • Jurassic World Dominion
  • Nope
  • Cocaine Bear (I'm in say no more)

00:19:35 - Legal Fiction Quiz Bowl

  • Spencer needs to get 3500 points to review Miracle on 34th St
  • Under and we have to review The Case for Christmas.....
  • Take your bets on which one we're reviewing

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00:01 :30 - Legal News system is broken, different standards of justice, he should be guilty

00:06:10 - Shout out John Deere workers congrats on giving yourself a raise and solidarity with all continuing striking workers

00:08:00 - Watkins is back and he still rules

00:10:00 - Licorice Pizza may not be good but Joe does not care

00:11:00 - Tom Holland may hate his own movies? And wants to be a landlord?

00:14:30 - Stop asking directors about superhero movies

00:19:00 - Pam & Tommy trailer dropped and it looks good

00:21:10 - SCENT OF A WOMAN PLOT RUNDOWN

01:06:01 - Legal Points (really none)

01:09:03 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar (Our Scores 0-100)

01:12:54 - Productions Notes and almost castings

01:20:30 - Would Any of These Characters Go to Law School?

01:22:00 - Final Thoughts - Go Watch This Movie (also it's a good way to shut up your conservative family members when they want to talk politics)

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00:00:30 - Maybe Masks are good?

00:02:16 - Aaron Rodgers made sure that we all checked off our anti-vaxxer Bingo sheet

00:04:02 - Don't Call Aaron Rodgers short

00:07:34 - Let's Go Brandon (The Loser Mantra)

00:09:34 - University of Austin is here for all free thinkers who want fake degrees baby

00:15:28 - Eternals is good ok? And if you disagree you hate women or POC or something...

00:17:03 - The Atlanta Braves won the title so they don't need to respect speed limits

00:18:03 - Chris Pratt has made it his mission to destroy all childhood icons

00:21:03 - JFK PLOT RUNDOWN

01:01:51 - Legal Points (Do They Matter?)

01:04:27 - Production Notes and Thoughts on JFK (the movie)

01:06:20 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:12:30 - Actors Almost In This Movie

01:19:40 - This Movie Spent A Lot Of Money Man

01:21:00 - Garrison Lost His Re-election To An Interesting Attorney

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00:00:00 - Intro and Welcome Back to Spencer, also just hold on Christmas

00:02:20 - RIP Conference USA

00:03:56 - Solidarity with all striking workers (get mad John Deere)

00:07:40 - Cops think they're above the law....shocking (won't get vaccinated)

00:09:42 - RIP Halyna Hutchins and we need more protections for film industry workers

00:15:10: - Joe saw Halloween Kills and you know what? It's still fun

00:18:15 - Spencer rewatched Candy Man 1 & 2 and Joe was right

00:19:07 - Dune is out and we both still need to see it (Spencer's wallet is riding on it)

00:22:00 - THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE (Plot Rundown)

01:02:06 - Legal Points (do they really matter?)

01:11:10 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:17:12 - Production Notes and Final Thoughts

01:19:30 - Real Life Story of this Movie (Anneliese Michel) and it's gnarly

001:24:01 - What Kind of Law School Student Would This Famous Scary Movie Character Be?

01:33:32 - Spencer's small plug to go watch The Strangers (and yes it's good)

01:36:07 - Sign Off

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Another bonus episode for you all!

This week Joe sat down with David Erdman an accomplished divorce lawyer in the Charlotte, NC area who has an interesting take on divorce practice. He doesn't want people to get to the point that they need to use his services. In his book he details how you can have a happier marriage and what to practice to make sure your marriage is balanced.

The Ten Commandments of Marriage: Secrets of a Divorce Lawyer is available on Amazon in paperback and digital format.

https://www.amazon.com/Ten-Commandments-Marriage-Secrets-Divorce/dp/1953555012

Thank you to David Erdman for taking time to speak with us and best of luck in your journey!

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Spencer decided to be a "dedicated lawyer" and actually do work. So since he isn't available you lucky folks get a solo dolo episode from Joe with no one to tell him to shut up.

In this episode Joe hits on a few upcoming movies and news and then gives you his full recommendations for all scary movies this Halloween season.

Full Recommendations:

Netflix

  • Unfriended
  • The Perfection
  • Cult of Chucky
  • Cam
  • The Invitation

Top 5 on Netflix

  • The Killing of a Sacred Deer
  • Fear Street Series
  • Creep 1 & 2
  • Hush

Prime Video

  • Hard Candy
  • Hatchet
  • The Host
  • Midsommar
  • The Neon Demon
  • Suspiria

Top 5 on Prime Video

  • Coherence
  • Come To Daddy
  • The Fog
  • Phantasm
  • The Wailing

Hulu

  • Let The Right One In
  • Memories of Murder
  • Castle Rock
  • Run
  • Little Monsters
  • Saint Maud
  • The Lodge
  • Children of the Corn

Top 5 on Hulu

  • Possessor
  • Beetlejuice
  • You're Next
  • Crawl
  • My Bloody Valentine

HBO Max

  • Event Horizon
  • Freaky
  • The Frighteners
  • Gremlins
  • Misery
  • The Shining

Top 5 on HBO Max

  • 28 Days Later
  • Evil Dead
  • The Invisible Man
  • Scanners
  • Evil Dead

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00:00:00 - Intro and START OF SPOOKY SZN (Also Joe is old now)

00:05:10 - Dear Evan Hansen is not good (shut up theatre nerds)

00:07:00 - Mario Voice Cast is well...a cast

00:13:10 - The Many Saints of Newark drops and FUCK YES

00:14:15 - Licorice Pizza trailer dropped and FUCK YES (if you're Joe)

00:19:30 - RIP to King Norm MacDonald

00:21:00 - THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE (Plot Rundown)

01:04:39 - Legal Points and do they really matter?

01:12:00 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:15:45 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be in Law School?

01:22:30 - Fun Production Notes

01:28:50 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:00:00 - Intro and Weekly Catch up (Watch The Guest it rules)

00:03:25 - Joe saw Candyman and it was great and if you're saying Candyman is woke you have a big dump in your pants

00:05:35 - Malignant dropped on HBO Max and....not bad (also batshit)

00:07:04 - The Matrix Resurrections is coming and could rule?

00:10:30 - Shang Chi may not release in China and how will Marvel financially recover?

00:11:25 - Dear Evan Hansen is using an old actor and de-aging him rather than doing the more difficult task of casting a young person

00:13:00 - RIP Michael K Williams gone far too soon

00:16:00 - THE BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES (PLOT RUNDOWN)

00:46:36 - Legal Points (don't really matter here)

00:53:35 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

00:57:53 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be In Law School?

01:08:10 - Production Notes (this movie could have been A LOT different)

01:17:25 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:00:00 - Editor's Notes sorry my mic is terrible

00:00:29 - Spencer and Joe talk about how they'll never golf until they're old probably

00:02:44 - Joe went to Denver and holy hell does Midwest weather suck

00:04:14 - Joe and Spencer are exercising their constitutional rights to shit out their intestines take that libs

00:05:15 - Joe and Spencer may start grifting on the right because of all the open radio host postings

00:05:49 - MLK and Fortnite...makes sense

00:08:21 - Donda dropped aaaand eh take it or leave it

00:10:58 - Candyman is out and its gonna rule

00:12:54 - CAPE FEAR PLOT RUNDOWN

01:01:05 - Legal Points and Do They Matter? (Like No Dude its Scorsese)

01:09:00 - Motions To Strike

01:14:08 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:22:21 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be In Law School?

01:27:50 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:00:00 - Intro and Weekly Catch Up (Spencer has to please Lord Apple and Joe is Never Moving Again)

00:02:29 - Joe Watched The Suicide Squad and Actually Liked It Ok Losers?

00:03:40 - RIP Trevor Moore

00:06:40 - Candy Man is coming to theatres so please get vaccinated

00:09:05 - Britney is Back and so is the Taliban so hello 2000s baby

00:09:35 - What is Joe going to do with all his Cuomosexual shirts?

00:12:42 - A TIME TO KILL Plot Rundown

01:05:20 - Legal Points and Do They Matter?

01:07:55 - Motion To Strike

01:16:03 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:18:36 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be in Law School?

01:29:00 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:00:00 - Editor's Notes (Sorry we're learning)

00:00:25 - Intro and Host Update

00:02:35 - Mask Orders (Don't worry this one will work! Everyone will do the right thing!)

00:03:54 - Eviction Moratorium Expires and the DNC is making sure to suck at their job

00:07:00 - Girboss energy is going to kill Disney (Hell yeah dude)

00:13:00 - We fiinally figure out my voice mod is on

00:13:59 - They're making another God's Not Dead and Joe is in Hell

00:18:28 - Matt Damon has sworn off the f word (not the one you think)

00:20:00 - Suicide Squad is releasing tomorrow (Joe will probably see it) but hell yeah dude The Green Knight

00:21:15 - Get well soon King Bob Odenkirk

00:21:40 - INTOLERABLE CRUELTY PLOT RUNDOWN

00:58:28 - Legal Points and Do T

01:01:25 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be In Law School?

01:09:29 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:14:04 - Final Thoughts (Spencer rants for a bit)

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00:00 - Intro and Spencer's Week (he hurt himself)

02:23 - It may be hot as shit outside but don't worry Joe's AC also broke!

04:25 - Jair Bolsanaro is definitely fine and not in poor health

06:04 - Cuba is protesting and America is surely not to blame for their hardships

09:28 - Disney is getting sued and how will they financially recover?! (but also this could suck for smaller studios)

12:20 - Spencer had pod brain in a real life encounter

13:34 - Fear Street Rules

16:17 - The French Dispatch premiered and if you're mad that Wes Anderson is too Wes Anderson you are a loser

17:52 - THE PELICAN BRIEF - Plot Rundown

49:31 - Motion To Strike

53:27 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

55:52 - What Kind of Student Would X Character Be in Law School?

1:01:46 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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Howard's Site: https://www.howardtscott.com/

We are excited to have a very special guest for a bonus episode this week! Howard Tate Scott is a man of many talents: an author, lawyer, and sailor. His first novel, Rascal on the Run, is bound to be a hit and is available on all platforms in hardcover, paperback, and e-book.

Athens, Georgia, 1988: Attorney August “Critter” Stillwell dreams of a life on the open sea, but he’s stuck juggling a crushing caseload after the sudden departure of his father, defense attorney Guy Stillwell, a local legend with a debilitating drinking problem. When an episode of Unsolved Mysteries leads to the capture of a murder suspect who’s been on the run for 25 years, the ominous pattern of facts drags Critter into a hidden corner of Guy’s past.

In 1963, To Kill a Mockingbird was playing in local theaters, and Guy Stillwell was a lot like Atticus Finch—if Atticus had been a charming two-timer and burgeoning alcoholic. For 15-year-old Critter, working at his father’s law firm was a masterclass in the art of good ol’ boy litigating and congenial back door deals. Chauffeuring Guy’s hard-drinking partner King Hodges between the law firm, courthouse, and a local brothel, Critter got another kind of education. That summer, Guy took on the trial of the decade: defending a Black woman charged with the murder of a KKK thug. By the time it was over, Critter’s world and the sleepy town of Athens were in flames.

As an older, wiser Critter looks back on that fateful summer, he discovers stunning connections between Guy’s case and his own defense of the runaway murderer. Drawn into a web of small town secrets, family drama, long-buried lies, and the rusted tentacles of the Dixie Mafia, Critter is forced to confront his own notions of justice, freedom, love, and sobriety. Now he must choose between his duty to the law and an unwavering loyalty to his flawed but charismatic father.

In this episode Joe and Howard talk about the legal life, sailing all over the ocean (which Joe could like definitely do), and lessons Howard has from his career in law. Howard's book can be found on all platforms or through the links at his site: https://www.howardtscott.com/

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02:02 - Our Fourth's and also the Fourth actually sucks

04:25 - Do you love America enough to sing to the Great Value Chips?

06:27 - The ocean is on fire because the Green New Deal would cost too much

08:24 - Happy Corner: Donald Rumsfeld has died

10:13 - Justice has been served? Cosby is free

13:18 - Kids can now get paid for their labor (and not delayed at all!)

15:21 - Midwest Health Check: Mark McCloskey is still a loser only this time in a Senate race!

18:42 - Joe watched another horror movie (Fear Street: 1994 and its good go watch it)

21:40 - Stephen Dorff stays a King

24:38 - Last Plug go watch I Think You Should Leave on Netflix

26:48 - Mr Smith Goes To Washington Review and Plot Rundown

01:10:26 - Legal Points (Not much and they don't matter)

01:15:45 - What Kind of Person Was X Character in Law School?

01:20:47 - Motions to Strike

01:24:35 - Does This Movie Pass the Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:27:43 - This movie is apparently communist which means it rules even more now

01:32:19 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:30 - It's Hot and it sucks

00:59 - NBA Playoffs round up (KD is us if we were good at basketball)

04:00 - Joe cosplayed as a Republican and experienced Lake Life

05:22 - Joe got shingles 30 years in advance (over achiever)

06:50 - SCOTUS says slavery happened but sawwy

10:35 - NCAA loses argument that people like watching athletes who don't get paid (which like duh)

14:53 - Batman doesn't eat box and you shouldn't be surprised (also Zack Snyder continues to rule)

17:34 - F9 is now cinema (playing at Cannes)

20:35 - CHANGING LANES PLOT RUNDOWN

1:02:24 - Legal Points and Do They Really Matter?

1:09:02 - DOES IT PASS THE BAR? (Our Scores 0-100)

01:12:20 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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00:35 - Joe watched Bo Burnham's Inside and only had a slight breakdown

01:48 - Joe forgot what Midwest summer was like

02:58 - Legal News Topic #1 - Trump diapey boy BUT he is gonna stop crypto bros

06:40 - Spencer watched soccer (FIFA has always been for LGBTQIA rights ALWAYS)

11:37 - Libertarians of New Hampshire had usual toilet libertarian brain take

16:24 - In The Heights (ugh) and The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It (hell yeah) are both on HBO Max (The Warren's were the biggest con artists in history)

19:34 - I CARE A LOT RUNDOWN AND REVIEW

1:06:52 - Legal Points and do they really matter? (Nah)

1:10:10 - Motion to Strike

1:11:35 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be In Law School? (did anyone go here?)

1:13:54 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our scores 0-100)

1:18:00 - Rosamund Pike Appreciation

1:19:30 - Final Thoughts and Outro (Buy our merch so I can use it not pay loans)

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0:00 - Intro and we have merch now!

0:44 - Spencer LARP'd

3:50 - THE GREAT TROLLI GUMMI WORMS CONSPIRACY

5:55 - Joe was vindicated on Spiral

6:05 - Army of The Dead came out and dudes rock (actually watch it, it's fun)

9:47 - RIP Charles Grodin

11:47 - Free Palestine (Thoughts and Prayers to everyone there and to everyone having to explain to their Midwestern dad how Israel is actually kinda bad)

13:19 - Albert Watkins is well uh...some kind of attorney and STL SUCKS

27:33 - Cruella and Quiet Place 2 are releasing tomorrow (Joe will see at least one)

28:39 - The Righteous Gemstones added new supporting cast and it's gonna rule

31:04 - GODS NOT DEAD 2 REVIEW AND PLOT RUNDOWN (Hint it stinks)

1:38:23 - Motion to Strike (Hard to pick just one part in this movie)

1:42:00 - What Kind of Person Would X Character Be In Law School? (Makes no sense)

1:43:43 - Does This Movie Pass The Bar? (Our Scores 0-100) & Joe Rants On Religion

1:46:43 - Fund Our First Movie

1:47:52 - Final Thoughts (God may not be dead but Joe wanted to be watching this)

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0:00 - Intro and Weekly catch up

01:09 - Superchurch had a 3 HOUR SERVICE outside Joe's condo and he is now against religion

02:45 - Spencer bought a brand new (2 year old) video game

04:42 - PA Bar President should've been bonked with the horny stick

06:02 - Digidog is Dead but don't worry we only spent a lot of money on it!

08:29 - Arkansas Judge threatens to shoot a man, just after he puts down his cane https://www.5newsonline.com/article/news/local/benton-county-judges-parking-spot-dispute-leads-to-investigation/527-e5b370e2-2ca0-42e5-a108-b5f1f52514c0

16:52 - Mortal Kombat rules but also sucks

19:50 - Oscars 2021 Round Up (it was awkward and weird)

23:45 - The Verdict (plot rundown, legal points, and general review)

1:15:37 - Legal points and do they really matter?

1:20:30 - Does this movie pass the bar? (Scores 0-100)

1:22:35 - What kind of person would X Character be in law school?

1:27:53 - Motion to Strike (what would you take out of this movie?)

1:31:38 - Would any of these actors improve the movie (It's Roy SCHEIDER not Schneider please yell at Spencer)

1:33:28 - Final thoughts and outro

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0:34 - Intros

1:53 - Legal News (Chauvin Verdict - It was Good, Employment for Law grads - Not Good)

4:13 - Entertainment News (Ted Lasso - Heartwarming and Funny, PTA's New Movie - Hell Yeah, Netflix - Can You Have Too Much Money? Spiral releasing May 14 - Oh Hell Yeah)

10:10 -Runaway Jury (Book and Legal Background)

15:46 - Runaway Jury (Plot Rundown and Review)

1:03:17 - John Grisham Pantheon of Movies (Joe Is Not a Nerd)

1:04:30 - Are Jury Experts Real? (Are They Just Paid to BS?)

1:05:52 - Motion to Strike (What Would You Take Out Of This Movie?)

1:08:08 - Did This Movie Pass the Bar? (Our Scores 0-100)

1:09:59 - What Kind of Person Would This Character be in Law School?

1:15:19 - Final Thoughts and Outro

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First episode of the Legal Fiction podcast. We discuss Liar Liar and how Jim Carrey may be the sweetest lawyer film has ever made.

0:00 - Intros and Background

3:08 - Legal News (Minnesota legislature - do they actually suck?)

14:26 - Legal News (Arkansas addresses the epidemic of letting children live their lives)

19:14 - Movie News (Snyder Cut DUDES ROCK)

21:50 - Liar Liar Review

48:58 - Legal stuff in the movie and does it matter if they're not accurate

1:00:07 - Jason Bernard the dude himself

1:04:45 - What kind of person was this character in law school?

1:12:50 - Did this movie pass the bar? (Our scores 0-100)

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