Welcome to my podcast NGO Soul + Strategy – a podcast for leaders of NGOs and other philanthropic organizations who are not satisfied with the status quo, are ready to look change right in the eye and who see themselves as leader-as-learner.
Summary
In this final episode of NGO Soul + Strategy, Tosca Bruno-van Vijfeijken sits down with Amitabh Behar, Executive Director of Oxfam International—one of the most recognized and influential global NGOs. Together, they explore what it means to lead transformative change inside a large, complex confederation while navigating a shifting political, economic, and cultural landscape.
Their conversation spans Oxfam’s ongoing change journey, its efforts to become a truly global organization rooted in legitimacy and equity, and the leadership lessons Amitabh has learned along the way. This episode is a fitting finale to the podcast—bringing together the themes of leadership, legitimacy, and adaptation that have defined Tosca’s work and this show.
Amitabh Bio
We Discuss
Quotes
“The world still needs Oxfam—with its courage to question power, and its willingness to transform itself.”
“Leadership is not just about holding power; it’s about sharing it, even when it feels uncomfortable.”
Resources
Amitabh's LinkedIn Page
Summary
In this episode, I am joined by Doug Trout, CEO of DRi Waterstone Human Capital, to explore how nonprofit organizations can better invest in, manage, and retain their people. From executive recruitment to culture-building and burnout, this conversation takes a deep dive into what it really takes to thrive in today’s complex nonprofit landscape.
Bio
We Discuss
Quotes
“We talk about valuing people, but how often do we fund what we say we value?”
“If talent is a strategic asset, we need to start treating it like one—from the board level down.”
Resources
Doug Trout on LinkedIn
DRi Waterstone Human Capital
Summary
Innovation is often treated as a buzzword—but few nonprofit leaders take a hard look at the cultural, structural, and leadership obstacles that keep it from taking root. In this episode, Tosca talks with Carlos Simon, an innovation strategist and longtime leader at World Vision, about what it really takes to build innovation-ready organizations. From internal mindsets to outdated processes, they explore what’s getting in the way—and what to do about it.
Guest Bio:
We Discuss:
Quotes
“You cannot have a disruptive vision and then treat it as a continuous improvement plan.”
“Innovation doesn’t fail because of a lack of ideas—it fails because of internal resistance.”
Resources
Organizational innovation index with exponential factor
Summary:
What does it really mean to lead through a feminist lens? In this episode of NGO Soul + Strategy, I sit down with Jayanta Bora, a seasoned People & Culture expert who has helped shape leadership practices across major NGOs. Drawing from his own matrilinear upbringing and decades of experience, Jayanta explores feminist leadership not as a gendered concept but as a deliberate, power-aware leadership practice rooted in justice and equity.
Jayanta's Bio:
We Discuss:
Quotes:
“If you practice feminist leadership, you have no need for DEI policies, since intersectionality of identities is baked in.”
“I am a male feminist.”
Resources:
Jayanta's LinkedIn profile
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In this episode, I speak with Andrew Henck, a scholar-practitioner whose recent PhD research offers a nuanced take on organizational culture in humanitarian NGOs. Together, we explore how culture goes far beyond shared values—it is a lens through which organizations make sense of their reality. They also examine what this means for safeguarding, accountability, and leadership in NGOs, especially amid increasing scrutiny and systemic change.
Guest’s Bio
We Discuss
Quotes
“Culture is not just about values. It’s how people make sense of reality.”
“Organizations are not just entities with cultures—they are cultures.”
Resources
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What happens when your nonprofit receives a transformational gift—seemingly out of the blue? In this episode, change management expert Michael Randel joins Tosca Bruno-van Vijfeijken to explore what nonprofits can learn from the MacKenzie Scott giving wave. Together, they discuss how to prepare for sudden funding growth, what risks to avoid, and how to communicate wisely during a time of high visibility and high stakes.
Guest Bio
We Discuss:
Quotes:
“One day, 10 million dollar suddenly landed in our bank account.”
“Should we be careful what we wished for?”
Resources:
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Show Notes
Summary
Land rights are at the heart of building a sustainable and equitable future. Yet securing these rights—especially for marginalized communities—remains a profound global challenge.
In this episode of NGO Soul + Strategy, I sit down with Amy Coughenour Betancourt, President and CEO of Cadasta, a global social innovation organization dedicated to advancing affordable, accessible land rights documentation.
Drawing on her leadership at the intersection of technology, social innovation, and global nonprofit management, Amy and I explore the unique opportunities and challenges Cadasta faces as a technology-forward organization working closely with Indigenous Peoples, local communities, and governments.
We also address a timely leadership question: how nonprofits can respond to increasingly challenging funding landscapes while staying aligned with mission and values.
Guest's Bio
We Discuss
Quotes
“We need to be technology-forward but always community-centered.”
"Responding to a changing funding landscape requires not just resilience—but also creativity and adaptability.”
Resources
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Summary
The International Tunnelling Association (ITA) plays a critical role in global infrastructure, ensuring clean water, sewage systems, and transport for millions while contributing to the UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). But behind the technical achievements lies a deeper challenge—modernizing an industry traditionally dominated by European, American, and Australian professionals.
In this episode of NGO Soul + Strategy, I sit down with Arnold Dix, President of ITA, to discuss his iconoclastic leadership approach in making tunneling a more diverse and inclusive profession. Arnold has actively pushed for greater representation of women, people of color, and young engineers, challenging traditional power structures and advocating for regional voices.
As a leader in a global membership-based professional association, Arnold cannot mandate change—he must influence, persuade, and lead by example. What does it take to challenge entrenched norms, navigate resistance, and truly drive transformation? Listen in to find out.
Arnold's Bio
We Discuss
Quotes
“I am a change man.”
Resources
ITA-AITES
Arnold's Book
Connect with Arnold Dix on LinkedIn
Follow Arnold on Facbook
'International man of mystery’ who saved men from Indian tunnel collapse | Australian Story
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Summary
What does it take to lead an organization through a responsible and strategic closure? In this episode, I speak with Amy Miller-Taylor, former Executive Director of Global Integrity, about her experience navigating the complex decision to wind down an organization while ensuring its legacy, people, and resources were safeguarded. We explore the financial and strategic challenges that led to this decision, the leadership lessons Amy learned, and how organizations can approach closure as an intentional and thoughtful process rather than a last resort.
Amy's Bio
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Western coaching models weren’t built for African leaders.
So Nankhonde Kasonde, a Zambian international development as well as a leadership development specialist and certified coach, created something that was.
Nankhonde's Bio:
Nankhonde Kasonde is a Zambian international development specialist, certified leadership coach, and the founder of Zanga, an African leadership assessment and HR analytics company.
As a leadership coach, Nankhonde recognized that African leaders need a coaching framework rooted in African national, regional, and continental values—rather than Western models that do not align with the cultural realities of high-context societies like Zambia.
In high-context cultures, such as those in parts of Africa, China, and Japan, communication is often layered and indirect, relying on shared understanding, relationships, and cultural norms. This contrasts with low-context cultures, where communication tends to be more explicit and direct, as seen in Germany, the Netherlands, and the United States (for example). Recognizing this fundamental difference, Nankhonde developed a coaching framework tailored to African leadership, built on five key cultural dimensions: belief, pride, community, loyalty, and respect.
Through Zanga, she provides African-grounded leadership coaching, self- and 360-degree assessments, and HR analytics that support talent management and organizational development. Her work aims to reshape leadership development in Africa by integrating culturally relevant coaching methodologies that truly resonate with African leaders.
We Discuss:
Resources:
Zanga’s LinkedIn page
Nankhonde’s LinkedIn page
Zanga’s website
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Summary:
What are the attributes of the modern humanitarian and development leader? Why modern? In what ways? How does one become one?
Torrey’s Bio:
As a certified coach with twelve years’ experience in international development Torrey Peace facilitates rising and established leaders in the humanitarian and development world to become the leaders they admire, or “people centered leaders.” She has taught and coached over 400 supervisors globally from the UN, INGO and civil society to become more inclusive and caring leaders that make a greater impact while also stepping out of overwork and overwhelm. Her mission is to provide leaders the skills they need to be part of the change we want to see in the humanitarian and development world while also maintaining their wellbeing. For more information about Torrey’s work and podcast, please visit www.aidforaidworkers.com.
We Discuss:
Resources:
Torrey's podcast: The Modern Humanitarian and Development Leader
Torrey's website: Aid for Aid Workers
Torrey's Linkedin page
Torrey's course on Humentum's learning platform
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Summary:
This is part one of a two-part conversation between two podcast hosts: Torrey Peace and myself. Torrey’s podcast is The Modern Humanitarian and Development Leader.
Torrey and I tackle two broad topics: in this first part of our conversation, Torrey interviews me:
How do people in development agencies experience organizational change? What is the psychology of organizational change that a development leader needs to be aware of? How can experiencing organizational change affect staff motivation? How, as leaders, do we tackle any reactance as well as resistance to change?
Torrey’s Bio:
As a certified coach with twelve years’ experience in international development Torrey Peace facilitates rising and established leaders in the humanitarian and development world to become the leaders they admire, or “people centered leaders.” She has taught and coached over 400 supervisors globally from the UN, INGO and civil society to become more inclusive and caring leaders that make a greater impact while also stepping out of overwork and overwhelm. Her mission is to provide leaders the skills they need to be part of the change we want to see in the humanitarian and development world while also maintaining their wellbeing. For more information about Torrey’s work and podcast, please visit www.aidforaidworkers.com.
We Discuss:
Resources:
Website
Podcast
Aid for Aid Workers
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Summary
What does the concept of Ubuntu teach us about leadership, community, and the well-being of people in organizations?
How can African leadership models inform and enhance global approaches to management and organizational development?
How do we navigate the challenges of avoiding romanticizing Ubuntu while honoring its depth and practical value?
In this NGO Soul + Strategy podcast episode, Martin Kalugu-Banda, a thought leader on organizational development and leadership coach (among many other things!), about redefining leadership through African paradigms and systems thinking.
Martin's Bio
We Discuss
Resources
Martin’s profile at the Presencing Institute
Ubuntu Lab Institute (similar institutes exist for other regions within the Presencing Institute)
Martin’s books:
Leading Like Madiba: Leadership Lessons from Nelson Mandela
Summary
How does an African management consulting company that expressly sets itself up to offer African solutions to African problems communicate its identity?
What are some key differences in organizational development needs and cultural norms between development agencies in the Global South and Global North?
How can concepts like Ubuntu and Ujama inform leadership models in ways that resonate across African contexts?
In this NGO Soul + Strategy podcast episode, I interview Faye Ekong, Managing Director and co-founder of RavelWorks Africa, about designing management consulting solutions rooted in African paradigms and practices.
Faye's Bio
We Discuss:
Quotes:
“If you lead an organization, choose courage over comfort” (Brenee Brown)
Resources
Website
Faye's LinkedIn profile
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
How can nonprofit organizations leverage human emotions to enhance the impact of their campaigns?
What can NGOs learn from cognitive science to create more effective, empathetic communication strategies during a time of poly-crisis?
How can organizations shift from traditional advocacy approaches to more agile, psychology-driven methods for mobilizing communities?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Diya Deb, Executive Director at MindWorks Lab, about harnessing the power of cognitive science to transform nonprofit campaigning in today's challenging landscape.
Diya's Bio:
We Discuss:
Quotes
“Doomsday communications have clearly proven not to work”
“We focus on social empathy as an enabler for activism”
Resources:
MindWorks Lab Website
Diya Deb's LinkedIn Profile
YouTube video of this podcast (ADD LINK!)
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Summary
What are the key principles of African leadership that nonprofit leaders globally could benefit from adopting?
How does the African concept of Ubuntu translate into practical leadership strategies for nonprofit organizations?
How does African leadership balance individual and collective success, and how might nonprofit teams benefit from seeking the same balance?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Albert Anoubon Momo, axecutive, author, and board member, about leadership lessons we can all learn from African cultures.
Albert's Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Albert’s LinkedIn ProfileAlbert's Facebook group on Leadership
Book
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
Is it that people resist change? That they fear change? Or rather that people fear loss?
As a change management consultant, what is the most difficult or frustrating while supporting clients with change management efforts?
What is one word most alive right now in the world of change management support?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Michael Randel, Founder of Randel Consulting Associates, on mastering the ever-complex world of organizational change management.
Michael's Bio
We discuss
Quotes:
Eisenhower’s quote (paraphrased here) is relevant in change management: “Plans are useless, but the process of planning is useful”
Resources:
Michael’s LinkedIn Profile
Randel Consulting Associates Website
Blog post: Resistance to change is often misunderstood
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What does it Busara's tagline mean: 'transformational leadership, from the inside out'?
To what extent are there truly different global south-normed leadership models?
Does personality still play an important role as well, in addition to national or regional cultural differences in leadership approaches?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Taaka Awori, Founder & CEO of Busara Africa, a leadership development services company, on redefining leadership in Africa.
Taaka's Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Taaka’s LinkedIn Profile
Taaka’s Website
Taaka’s book: Leadership Redefined: Untold Stories
Leadership in Africa Redefined Podcast
Busara Africa Website
YouTube video
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Summary
How should INGOs discern what roles are still relevant, legitimate, and needed, at this moment in civil society history?
And which roles they therefore should stop playing?
Is there more here, over and beyond stopping service delivery? (Which on its own is quite the shift)
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Dylan Mathews, Chief Executive Officer at Peace Direct. Peace Direct has been quite vocal, and has acted as a thought leader on this role question -- which I consider fundamental, and which I don't see INGOs facing head-on sufficiently yet.
Dylan's Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Peace Direct Website
Dylan’s LinkedIn Profile
Peace Direct reading resources: Link1, Link2, Link3
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
Conflict management and mediation are skills that come up frequently as a weak area in many of our social sector organizations.
And these days, more than ever conflict is on the rise within our organizations.
So how can we work through our conflicts more skillfully and effectively?
Nathalie has answers for us. She's a trainer conflict mediator (as well as a Corentus, Inc. team coach) who helps teams and organizations develop better conflict management capabilities.
And she's a valued colleague in a broader team I am a part of. Which means I get to learn from her!
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Nathalie Thompson, Owner of 5 Fold Consulting, on conflict mediation.
Erica's Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“In the nonprofit sphere, people tend to be expected to be ‘so nice’; this makes it harder to exert accountability, and to say what needs to be said”
Resources:
Nathalie’s LinkedIn Profile
Nathalie’s Email
5 Fold Consulting Website
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What constitutes a culture of philanthropy within nonprofits and NGOs? It's a term easily bandied around, but how do I see when it's in place?
How has the field of direct giving by small donors, and monthly giving as one donor practice in particular changed in the last 10-20 years?
Are there hurdles to be overcome in persuading donors to adopt monthly giving?
Finally, there is a lot of discussion about the need for a shift towards ethical storytelling, with local program participants in the driver's seat, and while focusing on the local person's agency. The raison d'etre for this is clear; however, is this aligned with what motivates donors (at least in traditional fundraising 'markets') to give?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Erica Waasdorp, President of A Direct Solution, a consulting agency with expertise in direct giving and monthly giving, on trends in direct fundraising.
Erica's Bio:
We discuss - particularly with regard to the US donor arena:
Resources:
Erica’s LinkedIn Profile
A Direct Solution consulting agency, founded by Erica (the site provides lots of free resources on direct fundraising)
YouTube vid
Summary
What does the name Taimaka mean?
To what extent are there challenges, as an organization, when you aim for evidence-based decision-making?
What kind of culture is needed to truly live the aspiration of being evidence-based?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Dr. Umar Abubakar and Justin Graham, co-founders and co-directors of The Taimaka Project -- an NGO working in Gombe state, Nigeria, on what happens when a start-up nonprofit wants to nurture an evidence-based culture.
Umar Abubakar's Bio:
Justin's Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
· “We go a layer deeper in our measurement and evaluation”
Resources:
Dr. Abubakar’s LinkedIn Profile
Justin’s LinkedIn Profile
Justin’s Email
The Taimaka Project(sign up for their email newsletter if you want insight into their evaluation and (cost) effective measurement approaches)
Tamaika LinkedIn Business Page
YouTube video
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Summary
Quite a few smaller size social sector organizations assume that program evaluation is too complex or demanding an undertaking for them. Is that the case, though?
If we want to introduce program evaluation to staff, leadership, and boards who have not yet been inducted into the importance of program evaluation: what are the most effective questions to generate genuine interest in and motivation to engage in such program evaluation?
How can we build a more evaluation-friendly culture all around?
Chari Smith, President and Founder of the consulting company Evaluation into Actionhas written a book that gives clear answers to these questions: Nonprofit Program Evaluation Made Simple (2021). She explains her core argument in this podcast episode.
Chari's Bio:
We discuss:
Quote:
Resources:
Summary
What are the main benefits of a network structure, where power, authority, and leadership are dispersed and shared across regions, from an effectiveness perspective?
What are the most important enabling habits, practices and behaviors that go with that, as a change leader?
And what are the most valuable network-related frameworks, concepts, resources, and tools at work in moving towards this structure?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Anu Kumar, President and CEO at Ipas, on the why, the what, and the how of changing an organization from a hub and spoke to a horizontal NGO model.
Anu's Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
YouTube
Summary
Conflict within our organizations: we often don't really want to face them, but they are very much there. The result? Plenty of passive aggression to go around.
What are the implications of such forms of conflict avoidance?
In other NGOs on the other hand -- especially in the last few years it seems -- internal strife has come out into the open - sometimes spilling into the media in an unwanted fashion.
On another note: is interest-based problem-solving still a helpful approach to conflict management skill building, or not?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Daniel Genberg, one of the foremost consultants on NGO governance matters, on how conflict mediation can come to the rescue when nonprofits deal with internal strife.
Daniel's Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
"Conflict mediation is not so much about getting out of conflict but about restoring relationships, listening skills, and learning and understanding how a situation looks like from the other side"
Resources:
Daniel's LinkedIn Profile
Morrow Sodali (former name Nestor Advisors)
Center for Effective Dispute Resolution
CIVICUS Essay Tosca on NGO sector scandals about abuse of power and the role of cultural issues
SSIR: The Upside of Conflict, with Joseph McMahon, Allen Fowler and Elizabeth Field
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Summary
What are some structural things that are wrong in development aid and in civil society?
Which mindsets most need to be decolonized when it comes to the relationship between global South civil society organizations (CSOs) and INGOs?
Global North-founded INGOs need to be reimagined. How, in turn, do global South-founded NGOs have to change to take over many roles that INGOs currently still fulfill? And how do they need to recalibrate their power relationships with INGOs?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Charles Kojo Vandyck, a development practitioner based in Ghana, a leader at the West Africa Civil Society Institute (WACSI), and a thinker on alternatives to development and alternatives to INGO models.
Charles’ Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Charles’ LinkedIn Profile
Podcast Alternative Convos – on Spotify
WACSI Website
Reimagining the INGO Website
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
Leadership transitions are tricky -- and potentially risky -- moments in a nonprofit's life. What are the most common pitfalls or aspects that get overlooked when nonprofits -- and outgoing leaders themselves -- tackle such leadership transitions?
What key strategies and tactics are essential to ensure a smooth leadership transition and maintain organizational stability?
What are the habits, practices, and behaviors that are most aligned with a successful exit of an Executive Director?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Ignacio Saiz, who transitioned out of the Center for Economic and Social Rights (CESR) some 2 years ago, on the right way to do this.
Ignacio’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
Resources:
Ignacio’s LinkedIn ProfileIgnacio's blog post on the matter (note links at the end to two good additional resources)
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What should I imagine, practically, when a team coach starts to support my team?
What does a well-known team coach find the most rewarding about working with nonprofit teams?
Can a team coach detect any differences in team behaviors or tendencies between their for-profit and nonprofit clients?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Alexander Caillet, CEO and co-founder of Corentus, Inc., on all of the above questions, including how to navigate team behaviors when it comes to organizational politics as well as decision-making.
His answers may surprise you!
Alexander’s Bio:
· CEO and co-founder of Corentus, Inc.
· Adjunct professor at Georgetown University, in its Leadership Coaching Certificate Program
· Alexander also worked at other coaching and consulting companies
· His education is in Organizational Psychology
We discuss:
Quotes:
“I was surprised to encounter issues of hierarchy, power, DEI, and dysfunction in the nonprofit sector, I had not expected these as much in this sector”
Resources:
Alexander’s LinkedIn Profile
Corentus Website
Corentus Email
Info on Corentus' offer on Low bono / Pro bono team coaching opportunity
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What is the state of DEI in US-founded international development organisations (both for-profit and nonprofit), and how has this state changed since 2021?
What has been the action, as compared to the professed intentions for action?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Shiro Gnanaselvam, President and CEO at Social Impact, on DEI (Diversity, equity, and inclusion) trends in US Development agencies.
Shiro’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Shiro’s LinkedIn Profile
Social Impact website
Social Impact’s blog post on overall survey results
Social Impact blog post on 7 actions the US development sector must take
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What is life after leadership like?
What happens to you as a person when you leave a high-powered, highly visible role in civil society?
What happens with your sense of identity? Does this also perhaps touch on ego as well?
What offers new meaning and purpose, when we live our life-after-leadership?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Sam Worthington, former President and CEO at InterAction, who stepped down from a position with much positional as well as symbolic power just about a year ago.
Sam’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
Resources:
Sam’s LinkedIn Profile
Book David Brooks, From Strength to Strength
Essay by David Brooks in The Atlantic: The New Old Age (gated)
YouTube video of this podcast
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Summary
What is scaling? And how is it different from growing?
What’s the role of partner strategies or multiplier strategies in scaling?
What are the implications of scaling in an era of decolonizing aid, localizing development, and shifting roles of nonprofits and NGOs, shifting power, authority and decision rights?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Amy Ragsdale, Director at Spring Impact, a consulting, coaching and training agency specializing in scaling strategiesfor mission-focused organizations, on how to navigate the big scaling quandary.
Amy’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“Scaling is not the same as growing. The two are often confused. ”
“Invention is not the same as innovation! (the latter involves testing and learning)”
Resources:
Amy’s LinkedIn Profile
Website of Spring Impact
Podcast Mission to Scale
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SummaryWhat are the vital steps a senior leader have to take as they step into a new leadership role? What to do and what to expect when you are transitioning into that new role?
And, separately, to what extent are African leadership models and frameworks different from global North ones? Most importantly, what could global North imprinted leadership models learn from African ones?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Adama Coulibaly, Global Programs Director at Oxfam, on both these topics. He is a very experienced NGO leader, a coach, and an eloquent thinker and author on all things leadership. And he just transitioned into his new role at Oxfam, so he is here to speak from experience!
Adama’s Bio:
We discuss:
Give yourself at least 2, if not 4 weeks between two jobs
Use your break time to learn as much about your new organization as you can
Communicate healthy boundaries immediately, otherwise, you will pay a stiff price
Build on what works; don’t feel the need to change everything or most things
Prioritize external engagement, insist on it, and commit to external engagements so that your calendar time for this is protected
Quotes:
Resources:
Adama’s LinkedIn Profile
Positive minds, a pro bono consulting, coaching, and mentoring group (see also Coul’s blog on this site)
Coul’s blog post about leadership transition
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What should we think of when we consider organization integrity issues?
How do you distinguish between positive and negative forms of power?
How do we nurture power for organizational integrity?
These are the fairly complex questions that we address in the podcast today.
In this NGO Soul+Strategy episode, I interview Bhavika Patel, Senior Adviser for Equalities and Inclusion at Oxfam Great Britain, and Alex Cole-Hamilton, independent consultant and one of the founders of the Power and Integrity Initiative, on their work on positive power for organizational integrity.
Bhavika’s Bio:
Alex’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Website of Power & Integrity
Alex’s Website
Bhavika’s LinkedIn Profile
Alex’s LinkedIn Profile
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How can the feelings of people who work in organizations both facilitate and suppress change?
What makes people attach reputation and credibility to another person? And how does this relate to diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts, and these may work out in practice?
What's the problem with think tanks from the perspective of a decolonization goal, and what has been the problem historically?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Ajoy Datta, consultant, policy researcher, and coach, on decolonizing think tanks, policy research organizations, and consulting agencies.
Ajoy’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Ajoy’s LinkedIn profile
Ajoy’s Medium blog posts
Ajoy’s Website
Sample blog posts: 1, 2
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How should we think about the ‘collective journey to equitable development’ of Northern-founded NGOs, national NGOs and their funders?
What obstacles stand in the way of continuing on that journey?
Why does Humentum argue that NGO operating models need to enable ERA (Equitable, Resilient, and Accountable) development, and how does that need to come about?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Kim Kucinskas, Director for Community Strategy at Humentum, on nonprofit operations as a driver of transformation.
Kim’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“There is strategic value and potential in operations; not as “back-office functions” but as drivers of transformation”
“We are at a tipping point in terms of significant NGO sector change”
Resources:
Kim’s LinkedIn profile
Kim’s EmailHumentum's ERA reports
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How does a climate change activist movement such as Extinction Rebellion (XR) chose among strategies and tactics on the spectrum between more 'radical' actions such as civic agitation, (nonviolent) disobedience, high-profile stunts that may lead to arrests and more 'mainstream' actions that may (or may not?) help them build a more broad public base?
How does Extinction Rebellion (XR) see the distinction between insider and outsider strategies in climate change activism?
Is it necessarily the case that 'radical 'activism by nature is cyclical, i.e. that it cannot be maintained on a long-term basis because of the intensity of this activism model?
And how does Extinction Rebellion deal with internal as well as external equity dimensions of the fact that low-income people and/or those who face discrimination tend to get hit harder by the impacts of climate change?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Coos van Est, a young Extinction Rebellion activist in the Netherlands (my original home country), on how she sees Extinction Rebellion tackle all these choices and trade-offs.
Bio of Coos:
* Coos is a student at Erasmus University College, Rotterdam, the Netherlands
* She's been involved with XR since her high school, but more intensively so for the last year or so, for about 0.5 -1 day a week
* Coos happens to be part of my extended family - and I am very proud of how she embodies engaged citizenship!
We discuss:
* How climate change fights and climate justice issues need to be interlinked to both benefit from sustained civic action
* The nature of the three global XR demands: 1/ Tell the Truth; /2. Act Now; 3/ Decide together
* How environmental activism in the global south has a history of white elite-level advantage, how it rightfully has been critiqued for suffering from white elitism and how it is now trying to overcome this by focusing on embracing everybody’s contribution and being expressly inclusive
* Climate change requires both civil disobedience and broad public support. Collaboration between social movements such as Extinction Rebellion (XR) and formally registered NGOs is therefore important
* Groups like Greenpeace are better than XR at drawing in the media, examples such as the Netherlands NGO Milieu Defensie (Environmental Defense) are good in online petitioning, while movements like XR are good in mass mobilization. They need to complement each other
* The sustainability of engagement in XR-type activism, with its typical peak-type activities, fairly time-intensive forms of self-organization and democratic decision making styles may be challenged; XR expressly tries to compensate for this through encouraging collective self-care
Resources:
Instagram Extinction Rebellion (XR) account:
* @xr.rotterdam (local account of XR in Rotterdam, the Netherlands)
* @extinctionrebellionnl (national account of XR in the Netherlands)
XR's Twitter handles:
* @XR_Rotterdam (local account of XR in Rotterdam, the Netherlands)
* @NLRebellion (national account of XR in the Netherlands)
An example of media analysis of the efficacy of ‘radical’ climate change activism and its trade-offs:
Summary
Environmental activism, environmental justice and equity concerns: what, if anything, is challenging about holding all of these three concerns at the same time?
Can a better integration or balance be achieved between these 3 concerns?
To what extent is radical activism cyclical in nature because it is hard to keep activists motivated for peak public mobilization moments?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Aseem Prakash, Professor of Political Science and Founding Director at the Center on Environmental Politics at the University of Washington, Seattle (USA) on climate change activism by nonprofits and social movements. Aseem does much of his research together with Nives Dolsak, also a Professor at the University of Washington.
Aseem’s Bio:
Nives’ Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Aseem’s Website
Aseem’s LinkedIn Profile
Example of a article by Aseem and Nivek for broader audiences: HERE
Their article on South Africa and coal: HERE
Their article on the Thacker pass mine in Nevada/USA and corresponding public support:
Summary
What are the strengths of a confederated nonprofit organizational structure and what are its inherent weaknesses and limitations?
What is a ‘diversified network’ type of organizational structure?
To what extent does having a confederated organizational structure, as well as the aspiration to be a diversified network, Impact the nature, legitimacy, adaptability, and quality of decision-making?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Doris Bäsler, formerly Oxfam, on the potential and peril when NGOs aspire to use a network structure
Doris’ Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“Complexity of organizational structure is not inherently negative, if you understand it”
“Being a diversified network is an imperative, not a nice to have in a world within which power is clearly shifting”
Resources:
Doris’s LinkedIn profile
Doris’ Email
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What is the difference between forecasting and foresight, as a skill and an area of work?
What are the pitfalls when international civil society organizations (ICSOs) apply crisis frameworks to trends that are actually longer-term, intersecting, and systemic?
Decolonization and diversity: how are these big current discussions and areas for taking action intersecting with what sometimes is called 'anticipatory capacity': the capacity to anticipate futures and know how to act in order to try to influence them?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview consultants and former Amnesty International practitioners Danny Vannucchiand Heather Hutchings, on anticipating the future of civil society operating space - the legal, political and normative space for CSOs to do their work. Their report, commissioned by the International Civil Society Centre (ICSC) as part of its long-term work on civic space, is titled: Anticipating Futures for Civil Society Operating Space.
ICSC's mission is to strengthen the impact and resilience of international civil society organizations to support people to change their world for the better. The Centre does this by convening civil society actors, offering training, research and other activities.
The Centre is planning further work on civil society's anticipatory capacity and is keen to get in touch with potential partners. Email Miriam Niehaus at ICSC: mniehaus@icscentre.org
Heather’s Bio:
Danny’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“How to not sit at the table laid out by others, but rather, invite others to sit at your own table – that is the challenge”
“Crisis response is an important part of NGOS’ public relations
Summary
What is ‘transscalar activism’ in a nutshell? And how is it different from what academics call the 'Boomerang' model of international advocacy NGO networks?
When did international NGO advocacy begin attracting the attention of academics, and why? What had shifted at that point, what had changed?
What was the dominant narrative in academia for a long time? And what was wrong with that?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Elizabeth Bloodgood, Associate Professor at Concordia University, Canada, and Christopher Pallas, Professor at Kennesaw University, USA, on major shifts in advocacy and campaigning approaches among NGOs. Trust me: their empirical research, based on practitioner case studies, is relevant for us practitioners.
Elizabeth’s Bio:
Christopher’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Elizabeth’s LinkedIn Profile
Faculty page of Elizabeth
Faculty page of Christopher
Christopher’s Google Scholer page
Book: <
Summary
What’s problematic about philanthropy in the ways the sector has practiced it for many decades?
Are there limits to trust-based philanthropy?
How do boards of grant-making philanthropies such as the Global Fund for Children have to change their composition, mindset, and oversight practices to lessen a compliance and upward accountability lens and to make themselves more responsive to actual needs?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview John Hecklinger, President and CEO at Global Fund for Children, on how we can practice philanthropy that’s less colonial in mindset and practices.
John’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“Everyone was getting smarter together once the board composition became more representative of the grantee partners it worked with”
Resources:
John’s LinkedIn Profile
Global Fund for Children (GFC) Website
GFC’s blogs
Podcast episode #22, NGO Soul + Strategy, with Dorothy Nyambi of MEDA
Benchmarking study on Shifting Power among 17 CSOs (International Civil Society Centre)
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What are the characteristics of 'digitally native' campaigning organizations?
How do digital NGO campaigning organizations compare and contrast with traditional, 'brick and mortar' NGOs?
Do digitally native civil society organizations and traditional NGOs sufficiently seek to complement each other, in order to maximize impact? I don't think they do.
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Nina Hall, Assistant Professor of International Relations at the Johns Hopkins University, on my episode 'Digital advocacy NGOs: a necessary, complementary force'.
Nina’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Nina’s professional Website
Nina’s personal Website
Nina’s book: Transnational Advocacy in the Digital Era: Thinking Global, Acting Local, Oxford University Press, 2022
Nina's book recently won the ISA ICOM best book prize, see HERE
Stanford Social Science Innovation Research excerpt of Nina's book - HERE
Twitter thread by Nina on the book – HERE
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INGOs have been rocked by scandals and allegations of abuse of power, discrimination etc. in the last 5-10 years.
What kind of different types of scandals can we distinguish in our sector?
Which factors that affect nonprofit scandals remain understudied?
What's the distinction between integrity violations and competency violations? And should we be getting more concerned as a sector about the latter
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Cassandra Chapman, Associate Professor of Marketing at the University of Queensland, Australia, on causes, consequences, and prevention and recovery strategies for NGO scandals.
Cassandra’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“My mission as an academic is to create usable know-how for practitioners”
“People assume that there is a crisis in trust in charities; instead, actually, trust in charities has continued a little bit in charities over time”
Resources:
Cassandra’s LinkedIn
Cassandra’s Twitter
Cassandra’s article: (this article is not available through Open Access; message Cassandra through LinkedIn and she can send you the PDF version)
Cassandra’s short summary post on LinkedIn
An upcoming website with summaries of articles by Cassandra: www.donorpsych.org
Tosca’s essay on ‘Can organizational culture explain recent INGo scandals’ provides further perspectives
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Summary
A number of NGOs have aimed to strengthen their global legitimacy by adding more global South members/affiliates. Is this truly a valuable strategy? Does it help with legitimacy to be more 'globally balanced'? What are the hard lessons learned about how to manage this process? And how do local civil society as well as government respond?
Hazem Fahmy, the CEO of the CARE Egypt Foundation and former Country Director of CARE USA-line managed Egypt Country Office, is an excellent source of wisdom on all of this. He, together with his senior leadership and with other 'change champions' in his broader team and in CARE globally, shepherded CARE Egypt's transition into full membership.
What does Hazem consider the most interesting or rewarding about the ‘art and science’ of change leadership?
Equally, what is the most difficult or frustrating about this experience with change management and leadership?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Hazem Fahmy, CEO of CARE Egypt Foundation, on CARE Egypt’s Country Office transition towards full membership.
Hazem’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“Change management means navigating a lot of ambiguity, it is a discovery process; change is not a project”
“Don’t leave influential people behind”
“I am not denying there is a privilege in being tied to the CARE mothership”
Resources:
Hazem’s LinkedIn profile
Hazem’s Email
Websiteof Care Egypt Foundation
Hazem’s blog:
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Summary
What is most difficult or challenging about operating as a leader in a place like Oxfam?
What does it take to lead from a political frame in NGOs?
Rational persuasion: is it overrated?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview John Samuel, Oxfam Asia Regional Director on influence and power in complex NGOs. John is an expert on Organizational Development. He is also the founder of Bodhigram, an Indian grassroots social movement,
John’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“Organizations are about people, systems, and power”
“An organization is a living system, it’s organic; an institution, on the other hand, is about systems”
“Humans are fundamentally relational, so you lead through people and relationships”
“Leadership is about communication acts, through language”
“Power is not what you have but what you are perceived to have” (Saul Lewinsky)
Resources:
John’s LinkedIn
Websiteof Bodhigram, the grassroots social movement founded by John
John’s blogs:
Dancing with dreams reflects part of the philosophy of Bodhigram
On leadership and language
John’s predictions for a 2030 future for INGOs
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Charity Navigator is a free online resource for US-based donors, an intermediary rating agency with 11 million unique users per year. It currently rates just about 200.000 US-registered nonprofits, both domestic and internationally operating ones, and is quite influential in driving the behavior of donors and, indirectly, of nonprofits that are rated on the platform.
Charity Navigator has changed the indicators with which it rates nonprofits in significant ways in the past 10 years - and more is to come. High time to have a talk with Michael Thatcher, CEO of Charity Navigator, about what they are up to!
Summary
Who pays for generating the data that nonprofits need, and who should pay?
What about the idea that some or all nonprofit outcomes are fundamentally immeasurable or have unmeasurable components?
How could the US government IRS 990 forms that nonprofits have to submit to the US Treasury Service be improved to provide better data on activities and actual results?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Michael Thatcher, President & CEO at Charity Navigator, on his organization’s changing expectations of nonprofits, and how this impacts US nonprofit behaviors.
Michael’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Michael’s LinkedIn
Michael’s Email
Michael’s Twitter
Charity Navigator Website
Charity Navigator’s Press Room
Charity Navigator’s Knowledge Base
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Welcome to our 50th podcast episode!
In this episode, we continue to zero in on what it takes to adopt and shepherd innovation through social change organizations. I interview Emma Proud, head of Learning and Adapting at Brink, an agency that coaches and consults on behavioral innovation approaches.
Emma’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
“Innovation is about better, not necessarily about new” (Ann Mei Chang, author of Lean Impact)”
Resources:
Emma's Twitter
Emma's LinkedIn
Brink's website
Stanford Social Innovation Review (SSRI) article by Emma Proud and others: 'The Adoption of Innovation
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What are the strengths of faith-based organizations that secular NGOs may have reason to covet?
On the other hand, what weaknesses or potential blind spots may faith-based organizations face?
And is there anything specific, or ‘typical’ about being a woman top leader in a faith-based NGO?
In this NGO Soul+Strategy podcast episode, I interview Martha Holley Newsome, President & CEO of Medical Teams International, and we talk among others about women and positional power in faith-based NGOs, and why, based on anecdotal data, they seem to be underrepresented as compared to secular organizations.
Martha’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
“Faith-based NGOs can suffer from isolation when they think their vision suffices. This can come with naivete, and insufficient appreciation for professional standards that sector organizations need to uphold”
“Faith-based NGOs come with tremendous assets, through the motivation instilled in staff and volunteers – our vision is our calling”
“Younger and smaller faith-based organizations can have a tendency to come barreling into a country setting...instead of being part of a coordinated approach, with other NGOs”
Resources:
Martha’s Twitter
Martha’s Facebook
American Stories Podcast which profiles Martha in detail
Medical Teams' Storytelling guide background is HERE (created by a
Summary
Do you work in a large NGO or UN agency, and wonder how the heck you are supposed to stimulate innovations in such a sizable, potentially quite bureaucratic organization?
Do you assume that organization size and structure matter when it comes to creating a good climate for innovation?
And is lack of innovation funds as big an issue as we make it out to be?
In this podcast episode, I interview Soren Vester Haldrup, Innovation Fund Manager at UNDP, on how to kindle innovation in large development agencies. Many people associate 'innovative culture' with small start ups, but there is not necessarily a link between the two.
Soren’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Soren’s Twitter
Soren’s LinkedIn
Medium Blog
UNDP blog on innovations
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Leadership in crisis contexts.
Many NGOs regularly work in contexts of crisis, or war. The war in Ukraine was one of those contexts, and it led quite a few NGOs to reallocate programming resources toward the Ukrainian population.
PACT is a US-founded NGO which has worked in Ukraine for many years. In this podcast episode, I took the opportunity to ask Alyona Gerasimova, its Country Director, a number of things related to leadership skills, behaviors and actions in crisis.
What leadership aspects are most important in such circumstances?
How do you maintain your own individual sanity, while trying to keep your team motivated as well as safe?
Does your leadership style vary, depending on what lens you use towards the crisis? There is some research that indicates whether a crisis is expected versus a surprise, or whether there is some time to respond, or not, impacts how leaders respond, who they consult to get to good decision-making, etc.
You are in for a remarkable conversation.
Alyona’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“This is more than a crisis, this is a war. War consists of multiple crises”
“Interestingly enough, the humanitarian sector was slow to respond in Ukraine, while the development sector was more agile in switching to humanitarian work”
Resources:
Alyona’s LinkedIn Profile
PACT website
PACT Ukraine Facebook Page
PACT Twitter
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Did you know....
When nonprofits signal they are financially trustworthy, they actually give up to half of their potential impact.
Why is this "financial trustworthiness signaling behavior” so pervasive, when it has this high a cost?
In this podcast episode, I interview George Mitchell, Professor of Nonprofit Management at Baruch College, City University of New York – and a long-time collaborator, including on our book (Between Power and Irrelevance: the Future of Transnational NGOs’ (Oxford University Press, 2020) -- and Thad Calabrese, Professor of Public and Nonprofit Management at New York University about their provocative new findings.
George’s Bio:
Thad’s Bio:
We discuss:
Nonprofits frequently adhere to four financial ‘orthodoxies’ or norms:
What if these practices, these financial norms, actually reduce your impact as a nonprofit by as much as 50% (in terms of your overall spending levels)?
George and Hans did a large-scale, quantitative study on US-based international and domestic nonprofits that indicated exactly this. Their research findings were picked up by several national US media, given their provocative nature.
Quotes:
“Norm-adhering nonprofits sacrifice about half of their mission impact over a 10-year period compared with norm-busting nonprofits.”
“Forgone mission impact is the hidden cost of trustworthiness”
Resources:
George’s LinkedIn Profile
Thad’s LinkedIn Profile
George's blog post – pointing to an article in The Conversation: HERE
Related article in Nonprofit Policy Forum (Open Access): HERE
Book: Between Power and Irrelevance: the Future of Transnational NGOs’ (Oxford University Press, 2020): HERE
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What can we learn from civil society leaders who wish to spur the adoption and implementation of innovations?
How do humans – within organizations, and particularly in NGOs – react to change?
What is the best advice when leading NGOs through innovation, from a senior team leader’s perspective?
Today, I am interviewing Dermot O'Gorman of WWF Australia on the do's can don'ts of NGO leadership when it comes to promoting innovation.
Dermot’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes:
“We fundamentally underestimate both the upsides and the downsides of innovation”
“As CEO, you cannot delegate innovation to an innovation chief; you need to be around to take away obstacles, indicate the strategic boundaries within which innovations have to fit, etc."
“Don’t let the perception on brand risk – often in the head of one Communications staff member -- be an overblown obstacle”
Resources:
Dermot’s LinkedIn Profile
Dermot’s Company Website
Dermot’s article: the need for a first ‘regenerative revolution’
Tosca's report: HERE
Links to previous episodes on innovation:
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Why has it taken so long to mainstream disabled people's concerns, when the global population is so substantive (15%?)?
Integration of disability into Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) -- has this been helpful, or have there been some downsides to this approach?
Are there disadvantages to being perceived as a single-issue organization (i.e. disabled people’s organizations)?
Today, I am interviewing Susan Sygall of Mobility International USA (MIUSA) about how NGOs go about claiming these rights
Susan’s Bio:
We discuss:
Resources:
Mobility International USA website
Profile of Team and Staff at MIUSA
WILD: Women’s Institute on Leadership and Disability
Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
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Today, I am interviewing Kirthi Jayakumar of World Pulse and founder of the Gender Security Project, and Leila Billing, senior advisor on youth, gender, and social movement building on Feminist Leadership. Leila, along with Natalie Brook, runs an open enrollment Feminist Leadership training program (We are Feminist Leaders), and Kirthi is one of its alumni.
As some NGOs and development organizations have embraced, how much of its subversive elements get diluted and cooptated; and how should we think about this? Is there still good being achieved, or is there a real danger here?
Kirthi’s Bio:
Leila’s Bio:
We discuss:We start from the premise of Srilatha Batliwala's beautiful phrase: "the self as a site of change". Self-reflection and self-awareness have to be at the start. But that is not enough.
We also have to put in place concrete organizational practices that embody feminist leadership, such as:
Resources:
Kirthi’s LinkedIn
Kirthi’s Email
Leila’s LinkedIn
Article by Leila in Medium on how grief in the workplace should be addressed by leaders: HERE
'We are Feminist Leaders' training program on feminist leadership, co-hosted by Leila Billing: HERE
Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
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What happens when NGO leaders take a 4 months sabbatical?
What happens to the mind -- what journey does it go on during a 4 month's rest from work?
What happens, especially when we are talking about a leader who was already quite steeped in mindfulness and meditation before he started his sabbatical?
In this podcast episode, I discuss with Chris Proulx, Global Director at Humentum the topic of rest, reset, reflection, and personal resilience when leaders take an extensive break from work.
Chris’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
“My mind was not ready to rest in the first few weeks after starting my sabbatical; I was not yet able to pull back the mind”
“I at first still kept scheduling, trying to stay in control mode, I was still crossing things off my to-do list”
“It took a while to really be able to listen to what bubbled up in the mind”
Resources:
Chris’s LinkedIn
Chris’s Twitter
Chris’s Website
Humentum page
Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
Youtube video of this podcast
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The new generation of 'smart technology' - chatbots, AI, machine learning, natural language processing, robots etc. can bring major benefits to nonprofits - if they can discern what they need to do to remain human-centered in their choice of technology. And if they remain aware of the potential for bias in AI-generated data, given its profound potential negative impact?
What can nonprofits – who are frequently not digital natives, let alone coders themselves – do to protect themselves against these?
In this episode, we discuss the timely new book by Beth Kanter and Allison Fine: 'The Smart Nonprofit: Staying Human-Centered in an Automated World'.
Beth’s Bio:
Allison’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
“This book is not technical to me”
“Leading through resistance in organizations is among others about doing away with outmoded ideas that only people can do nonprofit tasks”
Resources:
Beth’s LinkedIn
Beth’s website
Allison’s LinkedIn
Allison’s website
Harvard Business Review article: How Smart Tech is Transforming Nonprofits
Amazon link to book - The smart nonprofit: staying human-centered in an automated world: here
Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
Youtube video of this podcast
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Summary
Christine Sow is the CEO of Humentum, a global support organization for NGOs who wish to enhance their operational performance. Humentum helps NGOs translate their aspirations into operating models that give them the ability to deliver on those aspirations.
In that capacity, and given that Humentum among others facilitates peer sharing among CEOs on lessons learned in improving operating models, she has the perfect perch to give us a sense of what types of change CEOs currently are considering.
So what are some of Christine's overriding impressions from recent discussions in Humentum's 'CEO track'?
Where do CEOs lean in on the need for change? And where do they - as yet -- hold back?
Where does Christine see the biggest disconnects between what NGO members say they are about, and what their real in-use and practiced behaviors are?
In this episode, Christine and I discuss the outcomes of CEO discussions in 2021 and the first half of 2022, and her predictions on what may be future directions for changes in NGO operating models in the years to come.
Christine’s Bio:
We discuss:
Quotes
“ We cannot go back now, and we need to watch out for any tendency to ‘snap back’”
“I see CEOs shrink back from bigger change when it comes to seeking a better balance between showing commitment to their individual donors and supporting local organizations”
Resources:
Christine’s LinkedIn
Humentum’s offerings for its members and non-members
Christine’s Devex article on “How INGO CEOs are acting their way into the future” (Published on 22 Oct 2021)
Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
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What is the future for conservation NGOs?
Is there a future?
If so, what kinds of roles, mandates, organizational culture, and capabilities do conservation NGOs of the future need to embrace?
That was the question that a small team of consultants, including yours truly, tried to address by providing 15 - sometimes bold -- propositions for changes in roles and mandates.
In this episode, I interview Anca Damerell, Head of Programme at the Luc Hoffmann Institute, and in turn, she interviews me right back :). Listen to our dialogue!
Anca’s Bio:
We discussed:
Quotes
“Are NGOs motivated by mission or by self-survival?”
“This is not about replacing conservation NGOs but about envisaging a much more 'niche- specific 'role, and possibly a smaller presence”
“We don’t have to give in to self-flagellation, but we do have to be willing to shift roles towards much more specific niches, playing primarily facilitative roles vis-a-vis much bigger actors (multinationals, China, security forces etc.)”
Resources:
Anca’s LinkedIn Profile
Link to the report: Exploring Possible Futures for Conservation NGOs
Link to the project page: The future of conservation NGOs
Five Oaks Consulting School's Online course on Virtual Team Leadership skills
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Why might the assumptions we frequently make about the ‘virtue narrative’ that surrounds NGOs be problematic? Aren't they meant to create social good in the world?
In this podcast episode, I discuss this with Aseem Prakash, a well-known academic who focuses on nonprofits as well as on environmental activism, particularly focused on climate change. Aseem wrote an article, problematizing exactly this ‘virtue narrative’ surrounding NGOs.
Aseem’s Bio:
We discuss:
Academics in the past have created typologies of types of NGO failures:
Given these failures, it is not healthy to assume that NGOs always do good. In other words, when NGOs are assumed to be ‘virtuous’ and this virtue narrative is held to overall tightly, it can create conditions for lapses in how NGOs' actual performance is monitored (or regulated)
In addition, self-regulation by NGOs has been helpful, but probably not sufficient to weed out 'bad apples', or more important simply underperforming actors.
Quotes
“Do ‘global charity chains’ function like a supply chain for multinational corporations?”
“When NGO agendas or advocacy stances do not represent the preferences of the underprivileged – who are already neglected by the state and markets --, NGOs may actually reproduce inequality”
Resources:
Aseem’s Website
Aseem’s LinkedIn profile
Aseem’s recent blog posts:
Aseem encouraged me in 2019 to publicize an essay in Nonprofit Policy Forum on organizational culture in NGOs and how i
Summary
What is the 'halo effect' when it comes to NGOs, and why does it matter?
Here's a rough definition of ‘the halo effectj. The term comes out of the psychological academic literature: if the first impression of a person or an entity is positive for a person, this tends to stick with people. This tends to be the case for NGOs: NGOs are assumed to be ‘good’; thus they are glorified.
And why can this be problematic? Because when NGOs are assumed to be 'good' (i.e. morally, ethically good), they don't see their own 'shadow'. Moreover, that may make them justify questionable means for an end. They may also feel morally superior -- which has all kinds of potentially unhealthy consequences, some of which I observe regularly as well. And it can lead to moral naivete.
How can NGOs as a sector, individual organizations and as staff/leadership best keep alert to the dangerous downsides of this halo effect?
In this podcast episode, I discuss with Isabel De Bruin Cardoso, development practitioner, consultant, and PhD researcher, why and how NGOs as supposedly morally good organizations can behave badly - and why the two may be connected.
Isabel’s Bio:
We discussed:
Quotes
“In the field of safeguarding, it can be difficult to operationalize worthy concepts such as 'respect': what does this actually look like, behaviorally?”
“Normalizing having conversations about safeguarding is a significant form of role modeling”
Resources:Visualization of Isabel's main arguments about the Halo Effect
Isabel’s LinkedIn
Isabel’s publications on Research Gate
Isabel's Twitter
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Tosca is in conversation with Christian Meyer zu Natrup, Managing Director of MzN International, a boutique consulting firm that focuses both on nonprofits in international development, and on businesses that wish to do good, in this final episode of our 3 part joint podcast series. The other 2 episodes cover ‘Chasing innovation’ (episode #33) and ‘Chasing funding’' (episode #34).
Summary
Nonprofits are here to solve complex problems. But can they?
Where is the impact?
And why do some organizations spend so much time and money to achieve what some might typify as relatively little?
And are we as NGOs actually interested in measuring and knowing our impact? And how do we build data-informed cultures?
In the final episode, I discuss with Chris of MZN NGO impact and what are some NGOs' mental models around impact.
Christian’s Bio
We discussed:
Resources:
LinkedIn profile of Chris
MZN International's Website
Twitter profile of Chris
Tosca's Virtual Team Leadership Essentials Course
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NGOs are sometimes labeled fairly critically as 'dinosaurs' or 'legacy organizations'. How can they create a more innovation-ready or innovation-friendly culture?
What can NGOs learn from other types of organizations when it comes to generating more innovation, either in the broader civil society sector or outside of it?
What stands in the way, in terms of organizational structures, processes, or ways of working when NGOs struggle? Leadership mindsets?
In this podcast episode, I interview Shervin Fekri at Board of Innovation. Board of Innovation (BoI) is a strategy and business design firm that coaches private and public sector organizations -- including INGOs and donor agencies -- on how to generate a healthy innovation pipeline.
Shervin’s Bio
We discuss:
o The big social sector organizations tend to be complex in organization structure (sometimes too much so) with distributed country offices/affiliates. There is also variation in the extent to which decision making is centralized or decentralized
o National cultures vary a lot, and NGOs sometimes have somewhat less of a ‘corporate’ culture
o NGO cultures tend to be very process-oriented; they are not very user-focused, fairly siloed and have a hard time simplifying what the user needs/wants
o Marketing/fundraising/comms people typically are more user-focused.
Quotes
“Some NGOs are good in starting innovation projects but bad in killing bad projects”
“It is best to use an innovation portfolio approach, where the organization and decision-makers have visibility into how many innovation projects they have going on at any one time, how long they have been going on, which ones are lagging and which ones have to be stopped. That oversight is sometimes missing”
Resources:
Shervin's LinkedIn profile
Board of Innovation Website
Tosca's Virtual Team Leadership Essentials Course
Joint MZN-Five Oaks
Tosca is in conversation with Christian Meyer zu Natrup, Managing Director of MzN International, in the second episode of our 3 part, joint podcast series. The other 2 episodes cover ‘Chasing Innovation’ (episode #032) and ‘Chasing impact’ (episode #34, expected to be aired around Feb 23).
Summary
Good projects/programs need good funding. But why do some organizations continue to grow and some stagnate?
And is growth even a good or necessary thing in this era of a renewed look at the appropriate role of global North-founded INGOs, when global-South civil society is asking to #shiftthepower?
Isn’t the business model of nonprofits, taking tax money from the global north for projects in the global south, inherently inefficient and even perpetuating colonialism?
In the second episode, I discuss with Chris the disconnect between the funding we need to solve a problem and the funding we can get.
Christian’s Bio
We discussed:
Necessary components of a business plan, such as:
How to generate revenue
Resources:Links to MZN's social media channels:
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Tosca is in conversation with Christian Meyer zu Natrup, Managing Director of MzN International, in the first episode of of a three-part podcast series. The other two episodes which will air in February 2022 will cover ‘Chasing Funding’ and ‘Chasing Impact’
Summary
Are INGOs inherently inefficient, slow and lack innovation to the point that they will go, or ought to go, extinct?
And if not, what should leaders do to transform their organisations into solution providers at a time when the world faces unprecedented upheaval, a climate crisis, pandemics and a myriad of other challenges?
In the very first episode, I discuss with Chris whether non-profits at risk of being incapable of solving problems and therefore at risk of becoming obsolete. How can our organizations get better at innovating?
Christian’s Bio
We discussed:
You can also watch the episode here.
Resources:
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Monica is a change management specialist par excellence. She is also thoughtful about all things management and leadership. How does she see the linkages between change management and virtual/hybrid team leadership - something we all got thrown into big time in the last 2 years (if we did not already practice it before)?
What is the biggest thing(s) we may be missing about not working in a co-located team, and what is it that we may not miss that much?
What are the biggest differences between leading a virtual or hybrid team, and leading a co-located team? And what are the distinct advantages and disadvantages of either situation?
In this podcast episode, I interview Monica Maassen, Head of Change Management and Learning in the context of our new online course ‘Post-Pandemic Virtual Team Leadership Essentials’. A small team of talented freelance contributors and I at Five Oaks Consulting have recently launched this course! And Monica was part of our first cohort. In this interview, I explore some of Monica's reflections and lessons learned after having taken the course.
Monica’s Bio
We discuss:
Quotes
“What you don’t see in virtual collaboration, you won’t ask about as a manager”
"Conversely: what you give attention, as a managr, will grow”
“In INGOs, we tend to like to debate, but we avoid conflict”
Resources:
Website
Course Site 'Post Pandemic Virtual Team Leadership Essentials'
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Nell Edgington, a well known American consultant who serves US domestic nonprofits is of the opinion that nonprofit leaders maintain too many self-limiting beliefs and mindsets.
In her new book 'Reinventing social change: Embracing abundance to create a healthier and more equitable world' she explains how these self-limiting beliefs have seeped into the collective mindset and DNA of the nonprofit sector. In the book, Nell strongly advocates for abundance thinking -- instead of scarcity thinking, one of those dominant self-limiting beliefs.
In this podcast episode, I discuss with Nell the central arguments of her book.
Nell’s Bio
We discuss:
Quotes“Let’s pull back the curtain on how the sector is broken”“We need to fix and heal ourselves first before we can work on social change externally”
Resources:
Website
Book link
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Summary
What are the biggest limitations social movements encounter, time and again?
What are the good examples of positive collaboration between INGOs and social movements?
And what characteristics, what attributes made that collaboration positive?
In this podcast episode, I discussed with May Miller-Dawkins about the potential and peril when NGOs collaborate with social movements.
May’s Bio:
We discussed:
Quotes
“It can be hard for NGOs to step back sufficiently to make sure they are complimentary and respectful of the power and agency of social movements”
“NGOs have to be careful in how they exercise their gatekeeping capabilities”
"Long-term, flexible funding is one of the most important ways in which social movements can be supported”
Resources:
· Personal Website
· Facebook Group
Articles mentioned:
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In this podcast episode, I discuss with Dave Algoso, strategy facilitator and consultant 'par excellence', how civil society organizations (CSOs) have changed how they go about strategic planning in this very uncertain world.
Dave Algoso’s Bio
We discuss:
Quotes
“I am skeptical about using private sector strategic planning tools in the social sector”
“A strategy should not fall prey to irrelevance by being just a shiny PDF”
“In terms of strategy tools, I am still a stickler for the good old 2 X 2 matrix”
Resources:
Company Website
SSIR article by Dave (contact Tosca at tosca@5oaksconsulting.org if you want access to an 'ungated' copy)
Dave's article on Medium
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Why do people resist new ideas, including inside organizations, and including with regard to organizational change initiatives? And what can we as change managers/leaders do about this?
What's more important: making your new idea more 'shiny', more attractive, or removing obstacles that stand in the way of people accepting new ideas?
Would resistance to new ideas play out differently in the nonprofit sector as compared to others?
What does ‘neophobia’ mean, and does it apply as much to the (international) nonprofit sectors as to the private sector and government sector?
In this podcast episode which is of prime relevance to change managers and leadres, I interview Loran Nordgren of Northwestern University, USA, whose research together with David Schonthal, also at Northwestern, on why people resist new ideas, and the importance of removing friction.
Loran focuses on individual-level psychology, more than on organizational or industrial labor relations fields of work. His research is cross-sectoral: he looks at change processes and the adoption of new ideas in the private sector, government sector, and nonprofits.
Loran Nordgren’s Bio:
We discussed:
Strategies for taking away friction: consider how the new idea stacks up in terms of:
Resources:
Loran Nordgren
Linkedin profile
Company website
Personal Website
Short Podcast (Kellogg School Interview with Loran)
Book: ‘The Human Element: Overcoming the Resistance that Awaits New Ideas’ (out in October, 2021)
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Summary
What are the advantages and disadvantages (if any) when an organization is in a position to start almost as if with a new slate after a large core grant infusion, and thus can propel an ambitious DEI agenda?
And how do local authorities and national governments in global South countries respond to a localization push by an initiative like the Ultra Poor Graduation Initiative, part of the large Bangladesh-founded NGO BRAC?
In this episode, we talk with Rasha Natour, Senior Advocacy Manager at UPGI, about the Initiative's two strands of DEI-related work: ‘Right Work’ and ‘Right Team’, and the different roles these two approaches play in UPGI becoming a truly global entity.
Rasha Natour’s Bio:
Quotes
“We cannot divide external change from the internal change. If we really want to see something happening externally, we need to ensure that we build internally to enable that.”
“The way to have more local sustainability is by starting from the very beginning and not just as a consultative process.”
We discussed:
Note:
Since this episode was recorded, BRAC Ultra-Poor Graduation Initiative (UPGI) has begun a transition to move its administrative home from BRAC USA to BRAC International. As BRAC seeks to expand uptake of the Graduation approach worldwide through advocacy and technical advisory services, BRAC UPGI is increasingly hiring more staff in the regions where they work. As the main entity housing BRAC's programs outside of Bangladesh, BRAC International is well-positioned to oversee BRAC UPGI's expansion as a global program.
Resources:
Linkedin profile
Twitter Profile
NGO website
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How often does it happen that three of the biggest INGOs are all headed by three Latina women. Not often -- and definitely a reason to celebrate.
Sofia, Julia and Gabriela discuss their perspectives on leadership When it comes to crafting the new employee experience after COVID, what changes in that experience stand out?
To what extent the interviewees experience that women leader still cannot bring their whole person to leadership, and need to adjust to male expectations of leadership?
How have the NGOs fared in the past year and a half of COVID?
In this episode, we discuss women and leadership, and also their visions on leadership in general.
Gabriela Bucher’s Bio:
Julia Sanchez’s Bio:
Sofia Sprechmann’s Bio:
Quotes“The pandemic has speeded up our delegation of authority to the country level, thereby allowing more space for decolonization to happen”
“The pandemic has been like an X-ray: it has provided us visibility into what is wrong with the system in a way that has been evident to each family”
“We have had to learn how to balance the global and the local in new ways now”
”How do we own our leadership behaviors, without worrying about how they may differ from ‘what is expected’”
We discussed:
**Resources:
Julia Sanchez: Linkedin, Twitter, Company
Gabriela Bucher: Linkedin, Twitter, Company
Sofia Sprechmann:** Linkedin, Twitter, Company
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Summary
What is wrong with the current approach to organizational ethics and integrity in NGOs?
Why is using a lens of power analysis so helpful to bring INGO governance into focus?
Only by looking at the very core of how organizations work, we can begin to achieve the deep and effective change needed across the sector.
In this episode, we discuss organizational ethics and integrity concerns in INGOs with Alex Cole-Hamilton, independent consultant.
Alex’s Bio
Quotes
“At that time, it felt colonial to work in the NGO sector, so I went to work in the private sector instead”
“The field of ethics and integrity is quite young in INGOs”
“This approach feels big upfront, but will actually make this work more manageable in the medium term”
We discussed:
Resources:
Website: alexcolehamilton.com
Alex’s LinkedIn profile
Recent blog posts:
https://www.alexcolehamilton.com/power-analysis-and-governance/
https://www.alexcolehamilton.com/the-power-behind-organisational-integrity/
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What is social power? And how does this concept relate to Feminist Leadership? And how does it show up in organizational dynamics within civil society organizations (CSOs)?
Are there any cross-cultural aspects to Feminist Leadership?
I discussed these topics during an interview with Srilatha Batliwala, senior advisor at CREA and Gender at Work, a well-known social movement 'pracademic' and activist, and author of peer-reviewed articles about INGOs.
Srilatha Batliwala's bio
Quotes
“If I say another world is possible, I have to make it true within my organization as well”
“We have to go for power structures that disrupt”
“Besides focusing on visible forms of power and decision making, as seen in public institutions, we have to also focus on the power within the self, how we think about self and what we can see as being possible, as being within our agency”
“In order to maneuver around deep power structures within organizations, we first have to bring them to the surface”
We discussed:
Srilatha is the author of 'Engaging with Empowerment’ which is available at several online booksellers, including this one.
Resources:
Website: creaworld.org, researchgate.net, academia.edu
Srilatha’s LinkedIn profile
Srilatha’s Wikipedia link
Srilatha’s Twitter handle
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Dorothy Nyambi took on the top leadership role in MEDA two years ago as the only person of color in the senior leadership team. She since then has led change with that awareness in mind:
What do we mean by culture change, and how to see and operationalize it?
Politics and power within an organization, from a change leader’s perspective.
How to lead and manage organizational change? What frameworks, resources, or tools are most valuable?
Inclusion and diversity -- or lack of diversity -- in leadership.
Dorothy’s Bio
Quotes
“I will be bringing myself into it as a black woman driving to bring change to a white organization in a sector where white saviorism and specifically white male dominance is predominant. That will be the lens that will drive my change journey, but a journey that I am proud of and which has lots of lessons for me”
“As a former medical professional, I feel like I am in the upstream medical sector in international development”
We discussed:
Resources
Website: https://www.meda.org/
Dorothy’s LinkedIn profile
Dorothy’s Twitter handle
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Summary
How does Feminist Leadership ‘perform’ when a leader has to make hard choices?
How well has feminist leadership served organizations during the past year of the pandemic-related crisis, or other periods of crisis?
What kind of worthy values and interests might ‘compete’ with those called for by feminist leadership, and how should leaders resolve this?
I discussed these topics during an interview with Joanne Sandler, senior associate at Gender at Work, and former leader at UN Women.
Joanne's Bio
Quotes
“Sometimes you have to be willing to play the positional power game."
We discussed:
Resources
Joanne has co-authored a book named 'Gender at Work: Theory and Practice for 21st Century Organizations' which is available at several online booksellers, including this one.
Website: www.genderatwork.org
Joanne’s LinkedIn profile
Gender at Work Podcast
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What are the political or other strategies and tactics that a feminist leader can use to analyze the presence of ‘deep structures’ of power within organizations?
What can a feminist leader practically do to change these power structures?
And in what scenarios does Feminist Leadership shine in particular ways?
I discussed these topics during an interview with Aruna Rao, Co-founder and chair of the board at Gender at Work
Aruna's Bio
Quotes“Organizations are broken because people are broken”
“ Organizations tend to default to patriarchal and hierarchical forms unless that is interrupted through intentional leadership practices"
“What does care mean in an organizational context?"
We discussed:
Aruna has co-authored a book named 'Gender at Work: Theory and Practice for 21st Century Organizations' which is available at several online booksellers, including this one.
Website: www.genderatwork.org
Aruna’s LinkedIn profile
Medium: https://medium.com/@arunarao_79321
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Organizational leaders have to balance competing values. What kind of worthy values and interests might ‘compete’ with those called for by Feminist Leadership (FL) and how should leaders resolve those?
What to do when we need to hold individual staff or teams to account for underperformance, given FL’s emphasis on being developmental, its focus on staff care, etc.?
When do leaders decide that they cannot consult everybody but need to make certain decisions within a small circle? Is this in conflict with the feminist leadership principles?
I discussed these topics during an interview with Lisa Veneklaassen, Founder & Advisor, Just Associates (JASS)
Lisa's Bio
Quotes"Feminist leadership poses that we come to work as whole persons, as political beings, shaped by race, gender, sexuality, ability and class""Feminist leadership is ideally suited for crisis situations such as currently with the pandemic given its focus on communications, transparency, the sharing of anxieties instead of 'let's all be soldiers'"
We discussed:
Lisa’s book 'A New Weave of Power, People and Politics' is available at several online booksellers, including this one.
Contact Lisa at lvk@justassociates.org
Twitter: @LisaVeneKlasen
Lisa’s LinkedIn profile
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What's a global North-founded influencing NGO to do to stay relevant, credible, and effective?
And should influencing NGOs see power as an infinite resource -- that can be grown and shared and in principle is unlimited in nature -- or as a limited asset that needs to be fought for?
Finally, how does a seasoned advocacy NGO leader look upon the current moment as a combination of crisis and opportunity?
I discussed these topics during a wide-ranging interview with Paul O'Brien, Vice President of Policy and Advocacy at Oxfam America.
Paul's bio
· Vice president for policy and advocacy, Oxfam America
· Director of Aid Effectiveness, Oxfam America
· Long term work in Afghanistan
· Also worked as Policy Advisor in Care International
· Graduated from Harvard Law School
Quotes
“We want to be relevant to next-generation influencers, such as distributed, organic, indigenous, networked and virtual activists”
“After COVID, governments will review which CSOs fomented change and will go after them”
We discussed:
· Is power conceptually something that should be seen as an asset that can be grown and in principle is unlimited?
· Or is it time for influencing NGOs to rediscover that power is a finite or zero-sum kind of thing?
· Under what conditions can global North founded influencing NGOs maintain their relevance, effectiveness, and legitimacy?
· And what’s the main argument which Paul lays out in his new book ‘Power Switch?
Paul’s new book ‘Power Switch’ is available at several online booksellers, including this one.
Contact Paul at: paul.obrien@oxfam.org (till March 2021, after which he will pursue new endeavors).
Twitter: @paulobrien
Paul’s LinkedIn profile
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What’s all this talk about feminist leadership? An interview with Abby Maxman, Oxfam America’s CEO
Feminist leadership seems to be in ascendance in the INGO sector. Now, our sector is a bit prone to fads and fashions -- so should we take this seriously? Is this leadership model here to stay? And what are its potential, its power as well as its limitations? This is what I explore in a short series of episodes about feminist leadership, which is starting with this interview with Abby Maxman, CEO of Oxfam America.
Later in the series, I will interview Aruna Rao, Lisa Veneklaassen, and Joanne Sandler, while plans to interview Srilatha Batliwala are in the works.
Quotes
“Servant leadership does not always necessarily mean you to lead from behind (although this is often what’s needed); it can sometimes also mean leading from the front”
“Feminist leadership needs to be situational and adaptive to be helpful”
“You need to be kind of heart but also tough of mind, at the same time”
Feminist leadership obviously has the aspiration to contribute towards a gender-just society, both internally inside the organization, and externally. In this podcast series, I focus on how feminist leadership plays out as an organizational leadership model. According to Abby, feminist leadership among others is about being developmental towards other employees, bringing out the best in others. And it is about nurturing and seeking out the voices of all staff.
Here is LinkedIn 's profile of Abby Maxman
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In this interview with Tessie San Martin and Constantin Abarbieritei, CEO and Chief Operating Officer, respectively, at Plan USA, we discuss what lessons they learned in leading two acquisitions and one divestiture.
Quotes:
“If you want to do M&A, you’d better also know how to do divestiture”
“The lack of financial motives, metrics as well as incentive structures, as compared to the private sector, is a real problem in making M&A happen in the NGO sector”
In this stimulating discussion, Tessie and Constantin share their observations:
Tessie’s profile:
LinkedIn profile Tessie
Plan USA website
Humentum blog post by Tessie and Constantin about their lessons learned
Constantine’s profile:
Constantine’s LinkedIn profile
Email: constantin.abarbieritei@planusa.orgle
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Interview with Muthoni Muriu and Doris Basler of Oxfam about their ambitious, innovative, bottom-up Oxfam strategy process, which was approved at the onset of the global pandemic
Bios
Muthoni Muriu:
Doris Basler:
Quotes
“During our strategy process, our Affiliate boards were encouraged to trust the 10.000 (staff), so that the strategy could be built bottom-up”
“Through this bottom-up process, staff came up with about 250 ‘big, hairy and audacious’ scenarios!”
In this episode, you will learn how Oxfam went about its new strategy formation, what it learned along the way, and to what extent it held up :
More information about Muthoni and Doris
Muthoni Muriu LinkedIn profile
Muthoni’s Twitter handle
Doris Basler’s LinkedIn profile
Doris’ email address: Doris.Basler@oxfam.org
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Summary
Tosca focuses on her new book ‘Between Power and Irrelevance: the Future of Transnational NGOs’, which she co-authored with George Mitchell and Hans Peter Schmitz. Barney Tallack, ex-Oxfam leader and independent consultant, also made important contributions towards the book.
Quote
“We had to walk a delicate dance between the expectations and standards of academics and those of practitioners in writing this book. It was our strong history of mutual respect and collaboration as co-authors that made it possible”
Bios of authors and further information on the book
George Mitchell, Baruch College, City University of New York, USA
George E. Mitchell’s LinkedIn profile
George’s Google Scholar page: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ognhAnMAAAAJ
George’s Research Gate page: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/George_Mitchell10
Baruch College faculty page for George:
https://www.baruch.cuny.edu/mspia/faculty-and-staff/full-time-faculty/
George’s Faculty bio page: https://www.baruch.cuny.edu/mspia/faculty-and-staff/full-time-faculty/georgemitchell.html
Hans Peter Schmitz, University of San Diego, USAHans Peter Schmitz’s LinkedIn profile
Faculty page University of San Diego: https://www.sandiego.edu/soles/leadersh
Research Gate site for Hans: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Hans_Peter_Schmitz
Google Scholar site for Hans: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=HbBzLFAAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao
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As NGO community we are staring into the unknown, and as Bob Johansen of the Institute for the Future, memorably, said recently: "The future will reward clarity, but punish uncertainty. Be wary of people who need certainty, since certainty is brittle". Yet, our brains crave certainty, so what to do? How to lead our NGOs during a global crisis like this?
This was one of the central topics at the recent (June 3-5, 2020) 'Leading Together' meeting of the International Civil Society Centre, a leading convening body for mid to large size transnational NGOs. I was happy to be of service to the Centre by offering a presentation on 'Leading during Crisis' and by assisting in the meeting's design and facilitation. We also tried something new: Tom Howie at the Centre and I recorded a joint episode to capture the meeting's main takeaways.
In the episode, we hear thoughtful NGO practitioners offer their takeaways: participants Jayanta Bora, Executive Director for Global Human Resources at Plan International and Aida Rehouma, Lead Global Programming at World YWCA. And, of course, we also benefit from listening to the reflections of Wolfgang Jamann, the Centre's Director and main host of the meeting.
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NGO change management is challenging - to say the least. A conversation with Barney Tallack to help you learn from a pro
Bio Barney Tallack
Quotes:
“The field of change management is huge and has no boundaries”
And on the financial implications of the pandemic for the global North-founded NGO sector:
“Our own pre-existing conditions have exacerbated the financial implications of COVID-10 for the sector”
In this chock-full episode, we discuss:
We also discuss Barney’s recent paper on the financial implications of the COVID-pandemic for NGOs and the suddenly even more critical need for drastic change:
LinkedIn profile Barney Tallack
You can also reach Barney at: barneytallack[at]gmail.com
Read his recent paper on ‘Existential Challenges in the Funding Landscape for Northern NGOs’ here.
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In this episode, I discuss with Stefan Flothmann, who heads Greenpeace's MindWorks Cognitive Science Lab, how campaign designs miss how humans process difficult and negative emotions, and how this diminishes campaigns' effectiveness.
Quotes:
“Greenpeace staff were working on the assumption we were working towards a state of paradise, but they are struggling instead with the state of loss we have to deal with”
“Our assumption used to be: we are humans, so we understand how other humans work. Common sense approaches to our campaigning suffice. We were wrong”
Stefan's bio:
· Global Director at Mindworks Cognitive Science Lab, Greenpeace (GP) East Asia
· Former Program Director, Greenpeace E-Asia
· Former Dir Climate and Energy, Greenpeace
· Former Dir of Int Ocean Governance, Pew Charitable Trust
We discuss:
Why Greenpeace as one of the largest brand names in environmental activism felt the need to change its assumptions behind its campaigning approaches
The relevance of behavioral psychology, social psychology and neuroscience for campaigning organizations
How to better take account of difficult, and negative human feelings in advocacy?
How to go from broadcasting and audience-centric to audience-empathetic approaches
Organizational resilience within NGOs during this period of a pandemic; how should leaders respond?
Stefan Flothmann’s LinkedIn profile
Read more here about MindWorks's advice on how to campaign during the Covid pandemic. And here is MindWork's website about campaigning for mindset change
You can reach Stefan at sflothma@greenpeace.org
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Are more Mergers and Acquisitions in NGOs’ futures? And is that a good thing? An interview with Rick Santos, a CEO who lived to tell the story
Bio Rick Santos
In this episode, we discuss:
LinkedIn profile Rick Santos
Website Rick Santos
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Tammy Dowley-Blackman is a seasoned and dynamite consultant in the domestic US nonprofit management and effectiveness space, who I look up to. In this interview, Tammy shares:
Quote: “Less is more -- when it comes to investment in leaders -- is not a good motto if nonprofits want to attract strong Generation Y and Z staff”
Bio:
Resources:
Website: http://www.tammydowleyblackman.com/
LinkedIn profile of Tammy Dowley-Blackman
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David Bonbright, co-founder and Chief Executive of Keystone Accountability, an international charity dedicated to bringing constituent feedback to social change practice.
In this interview, David addresses the following questions and topics:
Bio:
Resources:
Website: https://keystoneaccountability.org/
LinkedIn profile of David Bonbright
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George Mitchell, professor at Baruch College at the City University of New York, USA, is one of my long time collaborators, a dear friend and one of those wonderful academics with a healthy respect for NGO practitioners. He and I, and Hans Peter Schmitz have co-authored an upcoming book on transnational NGOs, which will come out in June 2020.
In this interview, George addresses the following questions and topics:
Bio
Resources
LinkedIn profile of George Mitchell
Nonprofit Policy Forum article that references Seibel’s ‘successful failure’ concept: https://doi.org/10.1515/npf-2019-0050
The book ‘Between Power and Irrelevance: the future of Transnational NGOs’, co-authored by George, Hans Peter Schmitz and Tosca Bruno-van Vijfeijken, will be published by Oxford University Press in June 2020
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What organizational dynamics cause NGOs and funders to make overblown outcome statements?
In this interview with Julia Coffman and Tanya Beer of the Center for Evaluation Innovation, two thought leaders in the space of evaluation and organizational learning in the philanthropic and NGO sector, we address:
Julia and Tanya address these complex questions, that all touch upon organizational dynamics, in their thoughtful responses to my interview questions. Enjoy!
Julia Coffman's bio
Julia Coffman is the Founder and Director of the Center for Evaluation Innovation. Her focus is advancing evaluation and learning practice in philanthropy. For 25 years, she's worked with dozens of foundations on their approaches to evaluation. She has particular expertise in evaluating advocacy and policy efforts, emphasizing real-time learning that helps organizations to adapt their strategies and continuously improve.
Tanya Beer's bio
Tanya Beer is the Associate Director for the Center for Evaluation Innovation. Tanya and Julia are both high profile thought leaders in the field of philanthropy and evaluation, as well as organizational learning. Tanya was formerly at the Colorado Trust, working on research, evaluation and learning.
Resources:
Website: https://www.evaluationinnovation.org/
LinkedIn profile of Julia Coffman
LinkedIn profile of Tanya Beer
Terrific short reading on daily organizational learning habits by Julia Coffman
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Alnoor Ebrahim, Professor @ Tufts University, USA
How can we as NGO leaders make sure that our strategy informs our measurement strategy as organizations? How can we make sure our NGOs are not just upward/funder-oriented in our measurement approach, but also focused on internal accountability and organizational learning? And what mindsets are most helpful to make measurement efforts meaningful?
In this interview, we address:
Quote: “It is not feasible nor even desirable for all NGOs to develop metrics that run the gamut from outputs to societal outcomes” (pg. 11, book Measuring Social Change by Alnoor Ebrahim)
Resources:
Profile: Alnoor Ebrahim is a professor at The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. His work is focused on accountabilities facing non-profit organizations, public entities, and social enterprise. He currently sits on an advisory board to the Global Impact Investing Network and Acumen Fund and has previously worked with the NGO Leaders Forum. Additionally, Alnoor Ebrahim has formerly been the chair of two executive programs at Harvard University and currently co-chairs a program at the Harvard Kennedy School.
Alnoor's newest book: Measuring Social Change: Performance and Accountability in a Complex World
Alnoor and I are both Ambassadors in the Leap of Reason Ambassador community, an invitation-based network of nonprofit leaders, funders, analysts and consultants who want to promote a stronger performance and outcome-orientation among nonprofits.
Alnoor’s email: alnoor.ebrahim@tufts.edu
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Ep 004 – Ed Boswell
Title: A consultant’s observations in helping NGO leaders navigate big organizational change: Ed Boswell, Conner Advisory
Summary para:
Daryl Conner and Ed Boswell of Conner Advisory have been advising private sector leaders for 30+ plus years on how to successfully lead big organizational change processes. How much of this experience translates over into the NGO sector? Ed Boswell talks with Tosca about the many lessons he learned.
Resources:
Bio Ed:
Co-founder and CEO of Conner Advisory, which is focused on international aid sector organizations and was founded approximately 5 years ago.
Former senior consultant to private sector companies
Ed’s specializations: strategy execution and leadership development
Ed is also a strategic advisor to the NeuroLeadership Institute
He is a retired Partner of Price Waterhouse Cooper, US practice People and Change
Ed has a Ph.D. in Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania, USA. He also has a Certificate in Business Administration from the Wharton Business School at the University of Pennsylvania
Conner Advisory's research: https://conneradvisory.com/insights/
Ed’s book: Strategic Speed: Mobilize People, Accelerate Execution, Harvard Business Review Press, 2010. Available on Amazon at Strategic Speed: Mobilize People, Accelerate Execution
Amy Edmondson's article on Execution as Learning: Edmondson, A. C. (2008). The competitive imperative of learning. Harvard Business Review.
Retrieved from https://hbr.org/2008/07/the-competitive-imperative-of-learning
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Ep 003 – Sarah Ralston
Title: Whole-of-organization thinking: Reflections by Sarah Ralston, former longtime change manager in CARE2020’s process
Summary para:
The complex work of an NGO change manager requires that you have a ‘whole of organization’ perspective. Sarah Ralston, who until recently led many change initiatives at CARE International, reveals what she learned in this third episode in our series on Change Management.
Bio:
Sarah Ralston has over 15 years of experience when it comes to international civil society, organizational development, strategy and change management. She worked as a Senior Manager of Global Performance and Strategy for CARE USA before joining CARE International where she has spent over 9 years of her career. As the Head of 2020 Transformational Change, she provided change management expertise to support leadership and engage staff. Ralston most recently worked as the Head of Organizational Development and Accountability at CARE International. She left CARE International in December 2019.
LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/in/sarah-miller-b5b6185
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Ep 002 – Ramesh Singh
Title: What I learned from leading ActionAid’s federalization process as well as Greenpeace’s recent change trajectory – Ramesh Singh
Summary para:
Ramesh Singh, former CEO of ActionAid, led its process of federalization - an important change in its organizational form - over a decade ago. In addition, Ramesh as International Organization Director led Greenpeace’s process to decentralize decision making from Greenpeace International’s headquarters to its regional and national offices. During the same period, Greenpeace also aligned its organization with a strategic shift of its campaigning approach to a more ‘people-powered’ form of campaigning.
Resources:
Bio: Ramesh Singh has many years of experience working with NGOs, having worked as the Chief Executive Officer of ActionAid, the Chief Operating Officer at Greenpeace, and an Independent Consultant in his later career. In his most recent years, Ramesh Singh has, among others, held the role of Senior Advisor to Oxfam Global Strategy Development in his capacity as a consultant.
LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/in/ramesh-singh-b5712123
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Lessons from a long time change manager: Monica Maassen, Oxfam International
Episode 001 – Monica Maassen
Title: Oxfam’s 2020 change journey: lessons from a long-time change manager - Monica Maassen
Summary para: Oxfam International and its 20+ affiliates have embarked on significant organizational change – appropriately called ‘Oxfam2020’. Monica Maassen, Head of Oxfam Int’s change management, learning and change communications, explains her approach to how she and her team try to promote and accompany this large-scale change process, and the many lessons she has learned along the way.
Resources:
Bio: Monica Maassen is an expert in the field of change management and has worked in her current role with Oxfam International for over five years. Maassen currently acts as the Head of the organization’s Change Management, Learning and Change Communications Department, and is leading an initiative on culture change titled 'Culture: Living our Values.
LinkedIn profile Monica Maassen: linkedin.com/in/monica-maassen-49a30217
Book on Mindtraps by Jennifer Garvey Berger: Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps: How to Thrive in Complexity
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This is short introduction of my new podcast NGO Soul + Strategy, for leaders of NGOs and other philanthropic organizations who look change right in the eye. To be launched February 2020.