Jesus The Pattern Son: Recent Episodes
Sharon Sarles
Los Errores de la Iglesia RC son may potenciales en el Movimiento. Hay muy muchos paralellos. Ho dia yo ve que es el habladores Espanoles quein todavia en el Movimiento, y yo pido si son crecan spirituales o no.
En eso episodo discutimos:
Primero – cual es el fundo del autoridad? La Biblia or hombres?
Segundo – como obtener salvacion — o filicion?
Tercero – Cual es el autoridad de la Iglesia?
Es muy important en jhoy dia se hay control de su vida. Es important en el eternidad, tambien.
Quartro – La Mesa del Senor? Es un sacrificio perpetual o Jesus he murio solament un tiempo? Que dice la Biblia?
Es muy malo a ponerse en el lugar de Dios.
Cinco – Discernando la Cuerpo de JesuCristo
Todo de esos son conectados, son conjuntos, un hace el orto.
Recuerdo a Sam Fife? Que dice?
Secto – El Abus del poder includo abus sexual
Septimo – Dios amo gobierno pero odia la tirania
porque eso, es eimportante a ailmentar su mismo, o oir, o pensa, etc.
Cual es el metodo a ser hijo maduros? Es su objectivo? O no?
Gracias por ese podcast. Por favor email por hermana@JesusHijoModelo.com
Tal vez es el ultimo episodio. Pienso he completado me tarea en el.
Es su responsibildad en el futuro. No ser enganados.
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El Gobierno de Dios as Autogobierno. Todos de los gobiernos de Dios conduce a libertad, gozo, amor, and al fin madurez. En Madurez, hay autogobierno. El gobierno del diablo parace bien, pero es un enganado. Es mas y mas gobierno civil y menos y menos gobierno de congregacion, de la familia, y de autogobierno.
Hay muchas ensenas in eso.
Que Dios bendiceles, especialment hoy dia, en Purim. Es la fiesta de Esther. Celebramos que no nos matan del gobiernos. Vivimos y alabamos! HaleluJah!
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Que? Realmente? Si.
Primero es autogobierno. Depues el gobierno de la familia. Depues, el gobierno de la congregacion. Al fin, hay una espacia muy pequena por el gobierno civil. Si no nos gobiernos bien, hay mas necessidad por los otros gobiernos. La familia y la congregacion debe ayuda unas a otras, y las dos deben ensensan en lugar primero autogobierno.
Ese doctrina fue la de Los Pegrinos quines se fundo Massachusetts. Por eso fueron lideres en libertad, economia, salud, etc.
Pero hoy dia nos had se olvidaron mucho de eso. Son halgozones. Espera de una gobierno a fuera se hace todo. Bueno, es el camino a esclavitud.
Debemos estudiar la historia de La Reformacion y de los Pegrinos & Los Puritanos. Decieron que todos nostrotros deben leer la Biblia por si mismo. Nostrotros deben eschuchar de la Espiritu Santa por si mismo. Andamos con juntos, verdad, pero cada uno debe estar andando.
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Pablo reunie con los ancianos/prebiteros/pastores de Efesios cuando viaje a Jerusalen. Clamo’ que ha estado un buen serviente a Dios. En sus palabras son mucho consejo come ser un lider bueno — en cualqiera situaction: iglesia o trabajo o familia.
Por favor, eschuches and reflexiones en su palabras. No hay suficiente doctrina sobre liderazgo.
Somos en Hechos capitulo 20.
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Continuing in our review of Erwin Lutzer’s Hitler’s Cross, we cover how Hitler lied to the church, made deals promising religious freedom for political support, but private said he intended to completely shut down churches. The state could dedicate babies and make holidays! He appeared to be a Roman Catholic but was really practicing occultism. […]
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I am reviewing Edward Lutzer’s book Hitler’s Cross. In this episode I simply establish what was going on in Germany and with Hitler as the Third Reich began. I will let you pretty much draw your own conclusions. I think it is a shame we don’t study history. Indeed, in The Move, we didn’t have […]
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Whether you just want to learn more about the Passover pattern…
Whether you just want to know Jesus better…
Or if you want to know how the pattern is applying now,
This episode will do that for you. Passover is a pattern. Jesus fulfilled it. We are living in that pattern.
The gavel has come down. Decide now, quickly, if you want to be in Pharoah’s army, plunging into the Red Sea in order to catch and get their slaves back. Or, get in the house with the outline of the door in the blood of the lamb. There, the Lord protects you with his wings. Come.
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You probably have heard about Hanukah, the winter festival of the Jews in which they light the menorah. However, you probably don’t know the story of the Maccabees behind it. There is lots to learn.
First, I tell you the basic history, and then a little about how the rabbis interpret it, and how the Jews celebrate today. Then, I offer some thought questions.
The wildest thing is how it parallels today! Stick with it to the end. Then, really think. What were the issues then? Now? So, what does it mean to be faithful to YHWH?
Notice, that the Macabees were lauded for serving the good of the whole even at cost to themselves. But wouldn’t have the Antiochus officials said that they should have Hellenized and gone along, and given them more money? Sometimes you judge how much someone has contributed by how much they lost and not how much they gained.
Teaser: I didn’t find the miracle of the oil in I Maccabees. Not in II Maccabees. Hmmm. But I did read about the Battle of Emmaus! Wow!
More resources.1. Get the text.
- Rabbi Sobel gives you amazing number study https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVjpUHT_slE
My A&P and messianic friends will like this.
3. Here is the consensus rabbinical explanation. (So very funny: I asked a respected rabbi here this question and he referred me to Rabbi Google. I figured I had so little knowledge that such would not be a reliable source. Was he perhaps unwilling to face public pressure because the people like Hanukah? I may never know.)
https://www.myjewishlearning.com › article › transforming-hanukkahWhy Were the Rabbis So Uncomfortable With the Maccabees?That being the case, why do the Rabbis decide to focus entirely on this miracle of the oil? The 16th-century Maharal of Prague, Rabbi Judah Loew, offers a concise answer to this puzzling rabbinical emphasis on the miracle of the oil: The main reason that the days of Hanukkah were instituted was to celebrate the victory over the Greeks.4. Here is the Lubavitcher word on the holiday. They are very conservative, millenial, and evangelistic. https://www.chabad.org › holidays › chanukah › article_cdo › aid › 4588772 › jewish › 13-Facts-About-the-Maccabees-Every-Jew-Should-Know.htm13 Facts About the Maccabees Every Jew Should Know13 Facts About the Maccabees Every Jew Should Know By Menachem Posner 1. The Maccabees Are the Heroes of Chanukah The Maccabees were Jewish fighters who led the revolt against the Syrian Greek ruling class, who had suppressed Jewish religion in an effort to spread their Hellenistic customs and idolatrous beliefs.The post Lessons from Hanukah and the Maccabees appeared first on Jesus Pattern Son.
Today we define and explain the original Feast of Tabernacles, also called the Feast of Booths, or Sukkoth. We talked about how Jesus fulfilled this feast also, in being Emmanuel, God with us. We talk about the not yet of the prophetic meaning of the end-times. That eschatological means is proleptic: both now and not yet. The real point is the real walking out spiritually now. It is one thing to say that, but what does that look like? How is it done?
Answer: It looks like Jesus. And what was his first foot forward? And How is it done? The inner work of laying it all on the altar. Oh my goodness … old words with disappointment on them. Check out this episode. I have new revelation — at least it was for me. It is right there in the text: the sacrifices, the rest, the deliverance from slavery. That is a picture of the FEAST of TABERNACLES.
Please hear; please share.
Conference (that was mentioned) website: https://www.setapartwomen.co/
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Do the The Feasts of Israel Have Prophetic Meaning? Is it legitimate to try to find prophetic meaning in the “Feasts of Israel” (or better named the “moedim” the appointed times of God)? Shouldn’t we just take the Scripture at face value? Who is to say what they mean? And then, if we do take any meaning, isn’t that an open door for people to “find” some future prophetic meaning?
HOW THIS CAME UPIn a messianic group I visit this was the question posed. First time it was posed, rather than asserted. As a question, it is worthy of being answered. Are there “types and shadows” in the Bible. Is it legitimate to find allegorical meaning? Do these scripture speak of a time beyond the basic commandment? Is there possibly future prophetic meaning?
We can answer all of these questions surely and definitely, based on the text of the Bible, especially the New Testament. Yes, the Bible itself witnessed to, in clear language, that the Old Testament, the Torah especially, was written with types and shadows in mind. Yes, the Bible itself gives examples of finding allegorical or typological meaning in Scripture, and in the moedim in particular.
WHAT ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS?Having said that yes, there are prophetic meanings, does not mean that ANY BODY AND ANY interpretation is correct. There is a pattern, a trajectory, and other Scriptures. Standard hermeneutical rules apply. Nevertheless, yes, there are prophetic meanings in the text. And most especially, yes, the feasts do have prophetic meanings — of course!
CALL TO A DECISION — FOR JESUSScripture is deep. Those who want to reduce it to face value want to do so because they want to control it. They want to justify themselves. Those, who look deeply into Scripture will find more. Think Jesus speaking to the pharisees. Think the Bereans. Love the scripture; love to hear the Spirit; focus on Jesus! It is all about Jesus. It is not about the law. It is not even about the text, as precious as it is. It is about Jesus. (And it is not so much about us as it is about Jesus, the Pattern Son.)
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There seems to be quite a lot of confusion about what sin is, how sin is best dealt with, and to what extent gentiles should keep the Mosaic Law. All answered here. And a great time to answer them, as we approach the Day of Atonement.
The Day of Atonement is a moed, an appointed time, one of the “7 feasts of Israel”, and appointment of the people with God. The Day of Atonement a time to repent, to seek forgiveness of God, to reconcile with God and with others.
I will cover the basic scriptures on this topic from Torah, cover briefly the consensus Jewish thinking and the Chabad/Lubavitcher viewpoint. Then, let’s go into the New Testament about what sin is and how sin is best dealt with.
SHOULD WE KEEP THE LAW? IS SIN MERELY FAILURE TO KEEP TORAH?We should have a great deal of respect and gratitude for Torah and Tanakh, for without them, we could not understand Jesus/Yeshua. On the other hand, we should not trample the greater gift of Jesus/Yeshua. Nor should we think we, in our unlettered and prideful state are so much smarter than Peter, James, and John, or Paul. Let’s consider what all of these teachers had to say, shall we?
We will find that both in original Hebrew thinking and in New Testament thinking that sin is “missing the mark.” What mark? For Paul: the glory of God. High mark. So, how would be come up to that bar? Only Jesus Christ/ Yeshua HaMesiach/Son of God could help us that far up.
This is not rabbinic thought. Nor is it sloppy Christian “messianic” — shall we say messy legalism.My position is we should have more respect for the Jewish traditions today, more learning about the Torah, and a full understanding of our own New Testament. We get into trouble when the unlearned take part of a Scripture and blithely take away others’ faith. They feel very spiritual and righTeous doing so, but…. the results are very regrettable, first for others who are made worried… but later themselves when they find they have disrespected Jesus.
RETURNING TO THE FAITH; RECONCILING WITH GODToday I am most concerned to help concerned Christians back to settled faith, and comfort in the grace of God, after they have been pummeled and battered by ignorant messy-anic folks who want to make them feel guilty because they are not fully keeping the Mosaic law. Sin is much more than merely transgressing the Mosaic Law. It is pretty hard to keep the Mosaic Law. Always was. particularly, now when there is not Temple and no sacrifice.
Sin is bad and we should acknowledge that sin exists. This failure to acknowledge sin is rampant. Sin is foolish, harmful, but also knowing about sin is an opportunity to return to God. Wonderful Hasidic wisdom. But the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, our wonderful Messiah who is more than we ever imagined, has come and invited us into His own righteousness. This is the wonder. Let’s not overlook that. This is the awesomeness of the sonship message. It is all of grace; it is all of faith; it is not without works.
https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2093-atonement-day-of
https://www.reformjudaism.org/jewish-holidays/yom-kippur/yom-kippur-customs-and-rituals
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/177886/jewish/What-Is-Yom-Kippur.htm
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2830/jewish/What-Is-Sin.htm
https://free.messianicbible.com/tag/kol-nidre/#.YzbaPUzMI5s
https://perrystone.org/the-day-of-atonement-leviticus-chapter-16/
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Seeing so much hunger and hearing so little good teaching, I have posted an audio file on the Feast of Trumpets, more commonly known as Rosh HaShannah. I have defined the Feast of Trumpets, relayed the relevant Scriptures, or most of them, and applied it. The trumpet announces the presence of royalty, war, warning, and worship. Brief discussion of various eschatologies. Invites you to learn more of the Word of God. Equips preachers. Encourages you to worship, service, and evangelism.
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When does “the last trump” sound? The Rapture, the Second Coming, or some other time?
Dr. Showers argues that “the last trump” Paul is referring back to I Cor 14 when he mentions a military trumpet. In this case, the last trumpet is the call for men at war to stop fighting, or a watchman to finish his time at post. Either way, “the last trump” means “time of rest.” This makes sense, especially since we have a seen a difference between the last trump and the Great Trumpet.
There is much discussion about the Trumpet of the Rapture being or not being the 7th Trumpet in the book of Revelation. Some people read that the Rapture happens between the letters to the church and what John sees in heaven, making the “come up hither” be the same as the Rapture. At any rate, the idea that the “last trump” is a call to rest works very well with the theme of the Feasts of Trumpets being about preaching in the church age.
RULINGAmir Tsarfati gave a wonderful teaching on the timeline on Sept 24th, but marred it by at the very end of the Q&A time calling out and lumping together that Kingdom now and the 7m teaching and those who think they will make things better and thus bring back the Messiah. These camps are not the same, except that they are more optimistic and therefor more willing to grow and work. They have on their side “the Kingdom is within/among you.”
Since I had enjoyed Amir’s teaching that day, I was momentarily confused. I sought God. Here is the scripture that came to me as an answer ; “The wheat and the tares grow together.” So, yes the world is dark… but that doesn’t mean we have to be pessimistic and throw down our weapons and just wait for a rescue. No. Now we are the technon, the teenagers. Then we will be like Him: grown son. For we shall see Him as He is. Division in the camp is a trick of the enemy. We need all that the Body has to be a full Body. Each piece has a revelation and they will fit together like a puzzle.
Sam Fife said, correctly, that preaching against error in other camps makes more error.
Okay, so, Sharon, what are you doing? I am preaching truth in my camp, as respectfully as possible. And erring on the respectful side, too, I think. I get attacked for speaking truth, but when I do, I check to be sure I was as loving and soft as possible, grieve over those who are inclined to attack others, and then I roll my hurt upon Jesus.
IMPORTANT RESOURCEs TO BUY, READ, APPLYCF DO NOT LEAVE QUIETLY by Mario Murillo This book is an excellent real time application guide for how to “trumpet” in the current situation. We must speak up, for the Lord, for the church, and for ourselves …. just as Paul did when asked to leave the jail in Phillippi .
Here is a similar place to jump in, and a model to follow, of Christian “speaking up” or “trumpeting forth.” https://lancewallnau.com/episode-750-the-revival-we-seek-is-breaking-out-in-local-territories-like-this/
Someone else, more from a political angle, or at least a different faith angle, chimes in: get active. https://rumble.com/v1l4vm1-a-letter-to-americas-churches.-eric-metaxas-with-sebastian-gorka-one-on-one.html?mref=7x15j&mc=b4trb
Hear is a prayer confession offered for our nation. Kenneth Copeland was saying back in 2011 or so that we needed to start voting and getting involved. Now, he has the www.govictory online channel with the FlashPoint show bi-weekly, twice daily news, and election watch shows. Copeland’s theology might not be your cup of tea, but you have to admit that the current criticism against him: that he claimed it was the devil trying to …. “squeal” the election and destroy our children…. is sort of illustrative of his being entirely correct on at least these 2 points.
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Recently, I ran a series on how to tell what is true on The Great Shalom Broadcast: Overcoming Learning Problems, with a view to helping mothers and educators teach their children in these dangerous and bewildering times. Then, I just had this one come up in my spirit. These may not be the most important lies ever, but probably pretty close. These are lies that are perennial and perverse. You for sure have heard some, if not all of them. Gosh, most of us are caught up in several. If not, then you probably get “corrected” by religious people with these lies — they are so pervasive.
I put them in an order of 12, some of which are paired. Like the judaizers and the gnostics. If you have studied the letters of Paul, you have heard of these. Have you thought about the same lies cropping up in the church today? Legalism hoops and spiritual ladder show-offs. What about the worst and most prevalent: we all sin every day. Oh. Is that true? Maybe. But what about the intended meaning: “so get comfortable with it!” Ah…. no. That is why I made this “12 lies in the church” track.
This, you must hear.
If you want to hear the series on The Great Shalom, well, you can go there and select the “shop” tab and get the set as a download. It is on sale now, I think.
By the way, if you are a God-hater, and hoped to find criticisms of God… well listen in. Find the grace and mercy of God. The straightforward truth of God, reaching out for you… and all of flesh that is corrupt until God redeems is with resurrection power.
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Hi you all! Really have enjoyed this project: re-preaching the sonship message. I think I am about finished with that. So glad that some of you all have enjoyed it too.
This episode I talk a little about what I want to do next. I hope to share some first about how to tell what is true. Will be posting an episode about the 12 lies in the church. Also, I want to get into your hands a series about how to tell what is true. I think this is vital in this hour, for sure.
Then, I feel called to address the Feasts. There seems to be real hunger for Hebrew roots, and the sonship group I/we are rooted in had a lot to offer there. Let’s see what the Word says and what the Spirit says now about the Feasts. Next is Trumpets… coming up.
So: plans to address 12 major lies in the church and then the Feasts
Please, please, please, communicate with me. Ask questions. Share prayer requests. Okay to make requests for topics. (For complaints, think twice. For fussing about the Move, while possibly necessary, this is not the right place. I can not help with that. There are other places/groups.) But please, share the love, and communicate. sister@jesuspatternson.org
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We had another blood moon on 5/15/22. Less conversation this time than back in 2014/2015. And it was on “Second Passover.”
Were you confused about blood moons then? Was it vague? Were you disappointed? Have cataclysmi
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A clear re-teaching of the Feast of First Fruits and the Feast of Weeks. Let’s just go through Leviticus 23 and cover the 7 feasts of the Lord, and the sabbath. We will find that there has been some confusion that First Fruits IS Shavuot/Pentecost. We will clear up the confusion. And talk a little … Continue reading Feast of First Fruits and the Feast of Weeks →
Right where we first found out that we could become perfect, we are told how. Somehow, though, no one ever got around preaching about that. For some reason… or other?…. Ephesians 4:11&12 was always referenced as the primary was to become perfect. If Jesus gives us a command to be perfect, wouldn’t He have told … Continue reading How to be Perfect →
Wow! This was a long time in coming, but it may be the most important episode. Preaching “death to self” or (surprise to me) more properly “The Crucified Life” as good news! Of utmost importance in terms of being saved, not losing your salvation, having a good life, and not exasperating your children. Worth more … Continue reading Death to Self OR The Crucified Life →
We have heard many times: “That I may know Him….That if by any means, I might attain to the resurrection from the dead.” Let us unpack the Scripture, relying on Wuest. Going to the Greek does not change things; it helps us understand what was originally said. I think you will enjoy it, and be … Continue reading Attaining the Resurrection : Philippians 3:10 →
And obvious truth: to be a son, there has to be a father. Another obvious truth: that we are children of God at all, depends upon the love of the Father. So how did we miss this in our discussions (so many years ago) about sonship? Let’s go over basic scriptures, to see what they … Continue reading Sonship Assumes Fatherhood →
A Clear idea of what a mature Son of God looks like. This answers “what about eschatology?” and “What about 7M?” Quick mention of Rev 12 and I Thessalonians 5. What does a Son of God look like? Like JESUS. See Acts 10:38. So let’s see every one de-oppressed. How about that?
Here is a brief history of what has been called the “Sam Fife Body of Christ Move of God.” Not trying to call anyone out and not overlooking the blemishes. The point is to not replicate the mistakes made in the past. All respect to those who stepped out and risked much in order to … Continue reading History of “The Move” →
Although probably many of the members of the “Sam Fife – Body of Christ- Move of God” do not know it, their doctrine and methods largely came from the Latter Rain, a movement started in North Battleford Saskatchewan in 1948. They started as a prophetic movement, had five fold ministries, used typological preaching, and had … Continue reading History of the Latter Rain →
Finishing out the “There is a Fine Line Between Sonship Doctrine and The ‘I Will Ascend’ Doctrine. Substituting ourselves for the unique, begotten Son, Jesus who is the Lord God is over the line and into the “I will ascend” doctrine. Check out Sam Fife’s original booklets, particularly Man, Maid, and Manchild, to see the … Continue reading I Will Ascend – 3 of 3 →
Continuing our thought, we talk about thinking one is better than others simply because one has accepted the sonship message. Let’s keep the feast of unleavened bread. Let’s remember, Jesus is the firstfruits. We are in Him because of God’s grace, His faithfulness, and our identification with Jesus in baptism. That is what the Bible … Continue reading I Will Ascend 2 →
I have always said there is a fine line between sonship doctrine and the “I will ascend” doctrine. I thought other people said it too. In any case, let’s make that line very clear, highlighted, and noticed — so we all back away from it. Let’s not go over it. Satan has always perverted truth. … Continue reading I Will Ascend 1 of 3 →
Several things in the Purim story (Esther, Mordecai and Haman) are very prophetic. What I noticed today is that the King himself didn’t undo the bad decree, but let Esther and Mordecai head up the routing of Haman’s plans. The King, however, did take care of Haman, who died on his own gallows. We were … Continue reading Answer to Covid-19 Hidden in Purim Story →
One of John Wesley’s most famous sermons was “The Cure of Evil Speaking.” “Evil speaking” comes from Ephesians 4: 31. Wesley translated it “vilification.” Modern Americans might say informally “speaking bad about a brother or sister in the Lord.” Wesley’s cure was Matthew 18. Once one considers the matter, one is given a great and … Continue reading Vilification or Evil Speaking – Prominent Topic for Aspiring Sons →
If one wishes to build a tall building, and not have it fall down, then a good foundation is in order. Since John Wesley was the first person known to preach perfection, and since he had no scandals and is agreed to have been a responsible and charismatic leader, let us see — and pay … Continue reading Wesley Gave a Good Foundation for Sonship Doctrine →
John Wesley, Anglican clergyman and movement founder and ultimately founder of the Methodist traditions, did teach that perfection was possible. He is the first person, I believe, to preach such a thing. It was controversial. However, we have his published writings on the topic. Indeed, we have a a series of writing, so we can … Continue reading John Wesley Preached Perfection →
WOW! I recently found out that ” ‘uois” the Greek work for mature sons shows up in Scripture 7 times. AMAZING. And with all the preaching I have heard on sonship doctrine, I never heard this. Have you? If you are new to sonship doctrine, this will establish what is up — that there are … Continue reading “Sons of God” shows up in Scripture →
Right. So, if sons of God exist, then how do we become a son of God. Isn’t that the most vital question? Right there in Matthew 5:48, Jesus tells us. Never have I heard this preached on. Never. Never have I even heard the question asked: how? by what method? But isn’t that the most … Continue reading Needing a Certain Method for How to Become a Son of God →
Today we prove from the Bible that there are “sons of God” who are humans. We are looking for the Greek word for mature sons, “‘UIOS.” This word is normally used of Jesus. A Roman adoption in which a rich father recognizes his grown son as being in business with him and able to represent … Continue reading Sonship is Real →
Today we post our first and most introductory podcast. Sonship is great news because it is an invitation to a deeper walk with God, to being saved to the uttermost. This may come as a great surprise to both camps, but seems a great place to start in explaining what sonship would be. It would … Continue reading Jesus the Pattern Son – an attempt to teach Sonship doctrine faithfully →