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What is the impact of technology on churches and ministry?

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Trusting God in the twist and turns in the “unexpected moments”

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner about what it means to be basically human as minister and pastors of the gospel.

Here’s a discussion on from two pastors on the topic of “Pastoral Proverb”

Some highlights from today’s episode.* Be willing to look stupid, but don’t be stupid. * I am only human.I’m just flesh and blood (even though I got a Spirit), I can only do so much. * We are not God, but sometimes pastor try to be omnipresent, omniscient, or omnipotent. * People are not human doing, but people are human being. * I am reminded once again, that I am first and far most not a “pastor” but a “child of God” * My wife only gets one husband. My children only get one dad. * The church will always be there, and it can wait. * It’s ok not to be ok. * In churches, we people more like acquaintance rather than friends. With friend you can cry. * Speak the unspoken. * We don’t express in unhealthy ways, or even suppress it or repress it but confess by lamenting. * The unspoken rule is that leaders cannot make any mistakes. * As long as God gives you airs in your lungs, don’t give up. * Be humble and yet you can be confident.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation.1. Life Lessons in Pastoral Ministry– Be willing to make mistakes but learn more those mistakes.

– Because you are human, it’s ok to make mistake. Don’t be afraid. Fall forward.

– Be willing to step out and don’t reinvent the wheel all over.

– We are not action-based church be a being church.

– More coffee is not always the answer!

2. People are Not God– Sometimes, we don’t try to be someone that we are not.

– Being available to everyone and anyone is contradictory to being human.

– We are better together. Our churches are better link to reach the community for Christ.

– How do we often introduce ourselves? By our occupation and what we do.

– I had to learn these lessons the hard way, I wish I learned it quicker through a book.

3. Proper Boundaries in Humanity– Take a Sabbath! Take a day off from work.

– It’s ok not to be ok.

– “How are you?” it is a custom here in the States it’s an introduction.

– In counseling, I identify their pain, give it a name, and gently touch it.

– How many do you have friend you can cry together at 2:00 am? That’s a real friend.

– Ministry is a performance driven atmosphere.

– Art of lamenting which has been lost within the churches.

– Feed the elephant that is in the room.

4. I Will Make Mistakes, Even Big Mistakes.– We are not perfect, though sometimes we act like we are perfect.

– The truth is this, there is no rules in the rules of ministry.

– The best structure, system or strategy doesn’t really matter because there are no rules.

– Be ok with the element surprise even though we don’t see the future.

– “A righteous man falls seven times but rises again” (Prov 24:16).

– Make mistakes and learn from your mistakes.

– As longs as God give you a pulse, he has a purpose for you today.

5. God Gives me Grace– John speaks of God giving us grace upon grace.

– “There’s nothing like the school of suffering” – Charles Spurgeon

– A new day will come (this is the truth). Until Jesus returns, the sun still rises.

– Jesus meets us where we at. He invites us to his table.

– “It is doubtful God can bless a man richly until He has hurt him deeply” – J.I. Packer

– Where sin abounds, grace abounds even more! Though sin is many, His mercy is more.

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast* The Majesty’s Men

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What do you do when you find “pride” in your pastor? How would you feel when you find out your “lead pastor” is maybe a control freak?

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner talk about winning over wayward Christians. What do you do when the one you love is wayward? How do you go about having gospel conversation with family members? Some highlights from today’s episode.• We sadly see this scenario quite common. • It is IMPOSSIBLE for us to restore someone to faith. Only God can. • The modern church movement with A.B.C. of salvation. They have water down the gospel. • If they truly believe, they will never walk away from the faith. • Denying the holiness of God in the heart? Takes a constant struggle there with the action. • People can say, “I do not like you” that can quickly turn to, “I don’t believe in you” • What is going on? As men, we are taught to absorb our own emotions. That’s a problem. • Not only men cry, but God cries. So, we should experience those emotions. • Life is not just a bunch of snap shots of pictures. It is more like a movie clip that moves forward. • False thinking process, “God allows that to happen, therefore, God doesn’t care for me” • A person may have genuinely not been born again, or they could have hardened their hearts in sin. • Dialogue, “Oh yeah, Jesus doesn’t understand pain, betrayal, or hurt cause he hasn’t felt it” Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation.1. How Do You Share the Faith to One who has Denied Christ? - Common scenario: Husband who leaves the faith and wife who stays faithful. - Is the person in exile? Sojourn? Is it even possible? - The passage on apostasy (Heb 6:1-5). - Lordship Salvation & Easy Believism. - “He who has begun a good work will complete it by the day of Jesus Christ” (Phil 1:7). 2. Empathy with those in Lamentation. - Psalms, majority of them are not happy. - Grieving the Holy Spirit that can eventually lead to quenching the Holy Spirit. - The parable of the Four soils (Matt 13:1-23). - Hebrews 12:15-16 speaks of the issue of the root of bitterness. 3. What is the Plan to Go about with Wayward Christian? - Counseling approach by, “Taking time” with the person. - “Men don’t cry.” Well, the shortest verse in the Bible, “Jesus wept” (John 11:35). - Let people cry and have a shoulder to cry on. - “He who gives an answer before he listens, it is folly and shame.” (Prov 18:13). - Give the benefit of the doubt. “What is going on down in the heart?” - People don’t overcome problems in just an hour. Give some time to walk through the narrative. - Every situation is different. You can’t just expect to take two tablets and move forward. 4. Burden person walking into a church? - Spiritual warfare could be going on. There may be a dysfunction in their theological belief. - Evangelism & Apologetics comes into the conversation. - Restoration: The heart of the gospel from the garden and God bringing us back to the cross. - “Blessed be the God of all comfort and the God of all mercies” (2 Cor 1:3-4). Resources mentioned in today’s podcast• The Majesty’s MenFeedbackIf you have a question, you would like answered on the show, fill out the form on the podcast page here at jonathanhayashi.com.Thanks for listening! If you have found this podcast helpful, go to iTunes and leave a rating & review! That is one simple way you can help me get this in the ears of as many people as possible. Thanks for the help!Ordinary Radicals Podcast is a member of the HNR.GD Network

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner about church hurt.

It’s a serious, isn’t it? There’s church hurt in people in general, but how does that all lay out? Why does this “hurt” seems unique? How does it manifest itself?

Some highlights from today’s episode. * Hurt is something we all go through because of sin. * Preach the word in and out of seasons. * Don’t want to be stuck in past circumstances, that influences the present moments, which unbales you to move towards the future opportunities. * Dealing with maturity can help move beyond church hurt. * Churches can be like counselor. It may take time for you to find a healthy church. * Criticism with concern is constructive. Criticism without concern is combative. * Casting stones, that hurts. That is the reason we can sympathize with those who hurt. * Church is not like family. Church IS FAMILY. That is why it hurt. * When we choose to forgive and move on, we are emulating Jesus to people.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. What Does Church Hurt Look Like? - Hurt Process: (1) Hurt (2) Anger (3) Bitter (4) Revenge.

• “See to it that no one fails to obtain the grace of God; that no “root of bitterness” springs up and causes trouble, and by it many become defiled” (Heb 12:15).

• Fruit of flesh vs. fruit of the spirit (Gal 5).

• How Do We Best Minister to Those who Experience Church Hurt?

• Grace-filled moments? Preach the gospel to ourselves.

• Put on Christ vs. Put Off Self.

• Revitalization with those who experienced church hurt.

• Sit and talk about past issues may help at times to navigate difficult pain.

• Hurt people hurt people.

• “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,” (2 Cor 1:3).

• What Might We Tell People Stop Going to Church?

• I cannot be Jesus to everyone. I cannot be Messiah for people.

• Church is not museum of saints but hospital for sinners.

• “Do not neglect the assembly of believers” (Heb 10:24).

• There’s no perfect church. No judgement-free church.

• Every Pastor Learned to Live with Church Hurt

• Everyone lives in a glasshouse. For a pastor? It’s up on top of a hill.

• “It is doubtful whether God can bless a man greatly until he has hurt him deeply” – A.W. Tozer

• Forgiveness is hurtful when we don’t want to forgive.

• “Forgive them for they know not what they do” (Luke 23:34).

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner about the heavy topic of sexual abuse in the church.

This is a topic that should be a burdensome and grievous topic for all of us. Difficult topic, yet by the grace of God and His help we want to talk about this idea of sexual abuse despite the secrecy surrounding this topic.

How do we help those who feel helpless and hopeless in these situations? What about those who are weak and weary souls of fighting this uphill battle? Can we find answers?

Some highlights from today’s episode. • When was the last time you heard a pastor preach through the Song of Solomon? NEVER! • The secrecy of sex needs to stop. • Faith-based organizations are often huge targets. Why? For we live in a broken world. • Communicate to the body that, “We take zero-tolerance in regards to sexual abuse” • Even with background checks, predators will work through the systems.

• Action doesn’t get a pastor out, but often it’s an accusation that gets pastors out.

• Many of the cases of abuse have come from the hands of leadership. You need accountability. • Always err on the side of loving people well and protecting people that are coming. • We need to first lament and say, “Lord, have mercy” • If you’re outraged about all this, we are too. • Let’s find hope and help in the name of Jesus.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. The secrecy with the Topic of Sex in the Church

• Sex is a topic that nobody wants to talk about and is suppressed often even in the church.

• Sex happened before the garden and it is good.

• “So, when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate.” (Gen 3:6).

• The secrecy of sex needs to stop.

• How to Protect the Survivors in the Church

• Listen and lament (sympathize) with those who bring the concern.

• Predators will groom the people in the process.

• Begin with awareness by teaching and training the body.

• Everyone is a mandated reporter.

• Guardrails for Protection

• Billy Graham's rule: Not to be alone with the opposite sex who is not your wife.

• The protection of the system is not to meet alone with even children.

• Abuse is a multifaceted issue that brings issues from all directions.

• If something comes into the light, report it quickly.

• It is better to be safe than sorry.

• Sexual predators: this is not the first time, there’s usually a pattern already seen.

• SBC: Sexual Abuse Task Force (SATF).

• “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort” (2 Cor 1:3).

• God’s Word is sufficient to help us in biblical reconciliation and restoration.

• SBC polity, there’s no hierarchy to fire pastors or remove people like other denominations.

• This is part of taking out the fire. We deal with it and let’s move forward together on a mission.

• Resources mentioned in today’s podcast • The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi, and Brandon Boatner about “Sharing the Pulpit”

This seems like an odd topic, but for Brandon and me, we have not seen this done very often or even very well.

Why is that so? Why don’t pastor like to share the pulpit? What are the benefits from having multiple different people speaking from the pulpit up front?

Some highlights from today’s episode. * Tradition itself is not bad. It can be good. In this case, this tradition is not so good. * Seminary can train people in classroom, but churches have great opportunity to give preaching. * Preachers, they need a break! Whether that is a reality or not, it is a true statement. * “Wait, why is the pastor not preaching? I thought we pay him to preach?” * Charles Spurgeon shared the pulpit with D.L. Moody. They both opposite theological spectrum. * A shepherd must “guard” the flock from those who are outside. * “Hey if you need anyone to preach, I am available” That is RED FLAG! Protect the pulpit.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. Why Don’t People Share the Pulpit? - There is a feeling that you share the pulpit, “This is MY SPACE!”

• Pulpit represents power and authority.

• Jewish synagogue: a rabbi will give a message up front (tradition of the Jews).

• Plurality of pastor is a biblical model. Not a solo pastor. Why? Cause there’s no perfect pastor.

• What are the PROS to sharing the Pulpit?

• We are giving people experience.

• Give a break for the regular preaching pastors.

• Diverse gift set of spiritual gifts from multiple preachers.

• “Limited Grace Period” = time to learn and grow in preaching.

• “How pleasant it is when brothers united in harmony” (Ps 133:1).

• What are the CONS to sharing the Pulpit?

• People may say something you disagree with.

• “He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil” (1 Tim 3:6).

• Internship program, residency training, pastoral leadership pipeline can be good training.

• Learn the basics by teaching how to focus on the Bible.

• Moving Forward…..

• Homiletical Movement in the preaching outline. These are very helpful.

• Not only bible colleges or seminaries, but the local church should train next generations.

• I wish I had the training of preaching. If pulpit sharing happened, I would’ve been prepared. Resources mentioned in today’s podcast

• The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner talk about the importance of synergy in ministry for pastors and staff.

What is synergy? What does it look like we are working together? Encouragement in the body of Christ?

Not only Christians as individuals called, but churches collectively are called for we are better together on mission.

Some highlights from today’s episode. * Synergy is coming together to do MORE. * Working together is the heart of God. He wants us to do kingdom work. * World needs more people like Barnabas. Why? Cause we won’t forget who encouragers are. * How hard it is to be an island and not locking arms together working towards one goal! * If you’re a “my own kingdom” sort of ministry, that’s not very a New Testament example. * When we are NOT synergistic, we start fighting each other. * “Follow me” it is good to go with the move of God together being on mission. * We must recover the simplicity of the gospel message. * Christians must with blood, sweat and tears advance the kingdom gospel. * Jesus doesn’t unfriend us, unfollow us or block us. But we do that to one another. * This life is all about advancing the kingdom of God for His glory and the good of others. * I love my worship pastors, but they talk more about gears rather than the glory of God! * We are in this together as we are better together.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. Synergy in Ministry by Definition? - Partnership = Koinonia (Acts 2:42).

• Mules working together to do MORE and greater power.

• Benefits of Synergy in Partnering Together on Mission.

• Partnership doesn’t happen when there’s so much division.

• Masker vs. Non-Maskers. Vaccine vs. Non-Vaccine people. Must unite around the gospel.

• Build your own kingdom vs. Working together in gospel advancement.

• Historical significance of synergy? David Livingstone in medical missions.

• Hospitals, universities, denominational movement…. Started because synergistic partnership.

• “Hallow be your name. Your kingdom come; your will be done” (Matthew 6).

• Too much at stake and people are bickering at each other (Philippians 2).

• Synergistic People are ALL ABOUT JESUS.

• Christians are cooperating as co-laborers who are commissioned by Jesus.

• Self-righteous indignation say, “I am right” but Jesus is the only truth! (John 14:6).

• Gospel centrality is crucial in synergistic work.

• Stop bickering, scolding, scrutinizing on twitter towards one another.

• Synergy is not happening today as we treat brothers and sisters like enemies.

• Gossip: “Have you thought about talking to the person?”

• Satan is using each other going against each other. The devil is at work.

• Cancel culture: That is anti-Jesus model. That is a dangerous place to be.

• Koinonia from a Biblical Perspective

• Your joy is my joy. Your sorrow is my sorrow. Your grief is my grief.

• Ministry of presence: Jesus did that as he synergistically working together.

• “Work out your salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2).

• “They will know that you are my disciples by your love for one another.” (John 13).

• How to Practically Synergistically Work Together

• (1). Make yourself available: This just doesn’t happen by accident. Intentionality is crucial.

• (2). Let your needs to know to others: social media is a great place to start.

• (3). Conferences, retreats, camps: collaborate for a lifetime partnership with friends.

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of church planting and revitalization.

I mean first, what is church planting? What is church revitalization? Are they the same? What makes each of those routes a different and unique route?

They will visit and explain their brief thoughts on the difference between church planting and revitalization.

Some highlights from today’s episode. * Both church planting and revitalization are very difficult. * Church plant is like a jet ski and church revitalization is a big ship in the bay. * Majority of churches, from 60-80% have either plateaued or in a decline. * Reading culture is like asking a fish, “what is water?” * Churches have become content with doing church rather than being the church. * Dying churches have failed to live Hebrews 13:7 to faithfully follow biblical leaders. * Church revitalization needs to know what kind of baggage the church carries. * Ministry is not about you. “Jonathan, you’re doing this for yourself” Sad reality check. * People are looking for rest as they are overburdened. Point them to Jesus. That’s revitalization. * As much as you need the church, the church needs you. * So many young pastors overestimate what you can accomplish in the first year of ministry. * Stay in your church faithfully for 5 years and see how God will bless you in that ministry. * We live in a McDonald's society where we want it right now hot and salty! * “I love you church. Now, go make disciples” that’s my outro. * Church can be a continually discouraging place. You will need encouragement. * “I love you” cannot be an abstract principle. I need to not just believe it but show it.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. What is the Difference Between the Two? What Do We Mean by That?

• Church planting: No building, no budget starting from scratch. No history with a fresh start.

• Church revitalization: Has building, budget, and bylaw (legwork). But tons of baggage.

• Church revelation and replanting are not the same either.

• Planters have the disadvantage of fundraising and other important matters.

• The Mission of the Church through America.

• Majority of churches throughout America are dying for various reasons.

• Baggage: Ministry is just hard.

• Jesus came for the spiritually sick. (Mark 2:17)

• Church plants can be filled with people who are hurt and broken.

• What is the “Golden calf” of the church?

• “Come to me for those who are overburdened and weary” (Matt 11:28-30).

• Process in Planting and Revitalization

• If you’re a planter, you’re most likely proud.

• Jesus walked and did ministry. That’s how we are supposed to do ministry.

• Take your time in doing ministry.

• Wherever God calls you to serve, just stay there and serve there faithfully.

• Calling in Planting and Revitalization is not Second Option

• If you don’t have a calling, you will fail.

• Majority of churches that plant do fail.

• Some people who are serving do not have patience and will fail.

• Gospel-Driven Ministry vs. Emotional Reactive Ministry.

• Suggestion for Planters or Revitalizers

• Model who you want the church you want to become.

• Check your expectation: what are your thoughts there?

• Surround yourself with the right people.

• Encouragement: “I’m just so encouraged to see the effort you put into.”

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of church members considering going to bible college / seminary.

This undoubtedly is one of the most frequently asked question. It is a question that burns within the soul of a young person who sense the calling into ministry.

What are the pros and cons of theological education? What are things to consider as we see the categorical priorities for seminary?

Some highlights from today’s episode. * Seminary is not one size fits all. There’s a lot to think about. * Interested not only what happens in the classroom, but also outside of the classroom. * Seminary is not for everybody. * Life is about learning and growing. Seminary sometime can be a hinderance. * If you have an excuse not to go, you can always find reason not to go. * You’re not too old to go back to seminary.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. The Huge Benefits for Considering Seminary - Greek & Hebrew for New Testament and Old Testament.

• Lifelong friendship you make in both bible college and seminary life.

• Teaching happens in synagogues. Seminary is not for everyone.

• Seminary doesn’t make one a great pastor.

• Different Avenues of Learning and Growing

• Mission field is a great place to learn.

• Churches will be found faithful in stewardship of training discipling the next generation.

• “Let the dead bury the dead” (Luke 9:60).

• Excuses for Not Going to Seminary?

• Online Platform learning: Doctoral Classes (PhD) is available today virtually (or Modular).

• Three layers consideration: (1) Geographical (2) Educational (3) Financial.

• Not too old to start following God’s calling. That is not the best reason NOT to go.

• Benefits of Being a Seminary Student as a Result

• Friendship and companionship. You can learn from different point of views.

• “I want to be a pastor. Therefore, I must go to seminary” Not true.

• Example: Spurgeon never went to school.

• Seminary pushes you out of your bounds.

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of the struggles of reaching the next generations.

Why is the current generation having difficulty reaching the young generation? Why is there a gap between the boomer generation vs. millennials? Why is there a gap between Gen X and Gen Z’s? 

Is your church or ministry struggling to reach the next generation? This episode is for you.  

Some highlights from today’s episode. • Next Gen thinks differently from before them. Such as church attendance and membership.  • Attractional model (consumeristic) cool church doesn’t work. They won’t stick.  • Huge turn-off for the younger generation: “We want your presence, but not your opinion!” 

• Authenticity is apologetic of our culture. 

• How can we show how Jesus is greater than everything? We can’t if they don’t come. 

• Why not reach the next generation? They are not at the church. We need to get them there. 

• Immature Christians are hard to please and easy to offend.  • Obedience is not legalism. Holiness is not legalism.  • Every church member is expected to attend, give and serve. 

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation. 1. Next Generation Are UNLIKE the Current Generation

• They do not want to affiliate with any religion. They are called the “nones” 

• Gen X’s are more like Israel. Gen Z’s are like Babylon. 

• The idea becomes us vs. them. Younger people feel like they don’t fit in. 

• The gap is seen in cultural values. 

• Myth to Reach Younger Generation.

• Attempt to change the worship style.

• Attempt to change them into a building project. 

• Attempt to change by getting a young hip pastor. 

• What makes the Next Gen stick in the churches? 

• Barna Research Study: The solution is authenticity with our next generation. 

• Discipleship through the means of relational bridges. 

• Local church: life with the church.

• Why should you gather? (1) Biblical (2) Beneficial (3) Baptistic. 

• “We should draw near with a true heart….” (Heb 10:22-24)

• Younger generation does not believe they need to draw near as Jesus is greater than everything! 

• “They devoted to one another….” (Acts 2:42) 

• Koinonia: the idea is we have done together as a church that your joy is my joy now. 

• Next-Gen (Younger People) are LESS Committal! What Should We Do?  

• What do we do with people who are church members of 3 different churches? 

• FAT Disciples: (1) Faithful (2) Available (3) Teachable 

• “Search me O God and know my heart” (Ps 139:23-24). 

• “The harvest is plentiful, but the workers are few” (Luke 10:2). 

• The pastors or church leaders need to be courageous to call out people (Matt 18). 

• “holiness and righteousness….” (Eph 4:24). 

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of the disciplines of an effective leader.

What makes one more effective leader than the other? Or in other words, what makes one a good leader and a bad leader?

Leadership can be confusing and difficult in the day-in-age we live in. Here are some helpful effective disciplines leaders can be aware of to lead effectively.

Some highlights from today’s episode; • Our mission is quite simple. To know Christ and to make Him known amongst the nation.

• Whatever oversight God has given you; you are in a leadership role. • Whenever there is a leadership issue, it is often a character issue. • What people perceive in and think of you is often a flow of something in the person. • Pastoral ministry is not what I do, it is who I am. • A good and effective leader often has a different perspective in general in life.

• Leaders can be effective by giving room and not pidgin-holding in a box and limiting others.

• Negative people destroy entrepreneur leadership and innovation of individuals.

• No-no-no leaders kill the passion, joy, charisma, and enthusiasm of the team.

• Leader without followers is no longer a leader anymore. Just taking a walk in the park.

• Leadership is like a funnel to make them strong leaders to effectively lead others. • Contrary to Matthew 6:33, poor leaders seek their kingdom and own righteousness. • Work out is exhausting, but it is the most exhilarating experience. Leadership is the same idea.

• “It is doubtful that God can use anyone greatly until He has hurt him deeply.” – A.W. Tozer

• Don’t join a perfect church cause when you do, you will ruin that church.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. The Tale of Two Leaders: What Makes a Good Leader Versus a Bad Leader?

• Tale one: Highly effective communicator, yet an authoritarian, tyrant, and diminisher leader.

• Tale two: Very average communicator, yet a grace-filled and Christ-like leader.

• What makes one pastor/leader more effective than the other one? IQ? Preaching?

• Leaders come from different backgrounds and not necessarily always from upfront.

• All the qualifications of overseer 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1, and 1 Peter 5 deal with character issues.

• Leadership is not a position or organizational chart. For leadership overflows who they are.

• Flourishing Under an Effective Leader versus Being Suppressed Under Another Leader.

• The sense of feeling pressed under the thumb by one as being watched over the entire time.

• An effective leader perceives: “You’re smart enough to figure this out.”

• A poor leader’s perspective: “You are a fool. I know better. My way or the highway.”

• A toxic dangerous leader so often doesn’t last a long time.

• Example: Children’s leader says, “No, no, no. You have no idea.” Downer mentality.

• Leaders that suppress other people’s thoughts and ideas diminishes other people.

• Bad Leaders are So Often are Micromanagers and are Tyrants.

• Bad leaders not only get fired at the end but lose followers until he is the only one left.

• Leadership sometimes can be confused as a ladder to climb up.

• One is helping to become an effective leader versus the other beats you by work-based.

• Poor Leaders are Self-Centered and interested in Building their Own Kingdom.

• The ultimate goal of a poor leader is to build an empire for self to be glorified.

• These leaders are not able to release people to the greater good. They are hoarders at best.

• Empowerment, encouragement, and equipping people is the way of good leadership.

• Great leaders who train people are magnetics and attract great potential leaders.

• Good leaders are willing to pour into people because there is an eternal impact for the kingdom.

• Good Leaders Are Often Good Listeners.

• Tyrant leaders create a stressful tense environment to work with.

• Leader to follower relationship eventually diminishes. A leader to leader creates momentum.

• Good listeners can ask great questions. Tyrant leaders instead command and tell others.

• Servant leadership shows that you’re not above people. Leadership is modeling.

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast • Multiplier: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of the destructive nature of private sin.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer puts it this way in his book Life Together, “Those who remain alone with their evil are left utterly alone.”

What should we do? For sin demands to have a man by himself. It withdraws him from the community. The more isolated a person is the more attractive will be the power of sin over him, and the more deeply he becomes involved in it, the more disastrous is his isolation.

Some highlights from today’s episode; * Women are created from the side of Adam and ought to be watched, protected, and cared for. Not taken advantage of by men. * There is always divine hope and divine help in Christ! * Do not worship Christian celebrities. Worship Christ! Look to Him. * All of us are broken, wicked, and sinful people and never should put them on pedestals. * None of these issues happened overnight. These happen with a small dose of sin. * Lord have mercy. God help us that we will never come to that point of destruction of sin. * What you do today will impact tomorrow. * You can choose your actions but can’t choose your consequences. Those are chosen for you. * “Be killing sin or it will be killing you.” – John Owen * Lift the arms of your leaders by prayer. We need Aarons in our lives. * This is just the beginning and we have a long road ahead. Begin by praying for your leaders. * Leaders fear to ask for help. There’s an element of fear surrounding this topic. * The church needs to realize they have hired a human to lead their church. * Skills can get you into ministry, but only integrity will keep you in ministry. * Giftedness does not mean holiness.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. Stand with the Victims Who Were Taken Advantage.

• Sin is sin and it is wrong.

• If you are a leader and struggling over sin, go get help.

• Christ came to, “Bind up the brokenhearted and set the captives free” (Isa 61:1).

• Do not be afraid. Seek out help. You’re not alone.

• Dealing with the Aftermath of Devastating Sin.

• Expectation of Christian leaders: We are not superman!

• Husband: Faithfulness physically, emotionally, mentally, and internetly.

• There are other vices of sin: pride, anger, self… etc

• “Pride puffs people up” (1 Cor 8:1).

• Prideful people leverage their authority to manipulate the situation.

• “A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough” (Gal 5:9).

• “Guard your heart” (Prov 24:3).

• Do not let those little bits of sins grow more and more and destroy you.

• “Sin is crouching at your door” (Gen 4:7).

• Beware, beware, beware of Sin.

• Stop playing the comparison game.

• Faithfulness over fame. Integrity over skillset. Character over competency.

• Defeat sin right now. Be faithful by serving in the church.

• Look to Christ who is your strength in order to defeat sin.

• “Exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin.” (Heb 3:13)

• Brothers need to encourage one another and have accountability with one another.

• Pray for All Those Who are Affected. Everyone is Hurting.

• Pray for your pastor. Pastoring is a very lonely road.

• Aaron lifting the arms of Moses when weary (Ex 17:12-14).

• Setting leaders for failure vs. Setting leaders for success.

• “Mourn with those who mourn” (Rom 12:15-16).

• Normalize the Request for Help.

• “I NEED HELP” We need to make this ok for our leaders who even face depression.

• Live in godliness and holiness by the 4 things;

• (1) Proclaiming gospel, (2) Loving neighbor, (3) Serving oppressed, (4) Reputation outsiders.

• Stop any sin even before it starts.

• Do not elevate competency over calling and character.

• “Remain in me, and I will remain in you.” (John 15:4).

• “Clothe yourself with the Lord Jesus Christ” (Rom 13:14).

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast • Ravi Zacharias Hid Hundreds of Pictures of Women, Abuse During Massages, and a Rape Allegation

• The Mortification of Sin by John Owen

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on how we should deal with people asking for money.

I’m sure all of us have experienced it in some way or another. It is awkward, isn’t it? What should you do? There certainly needs to be prayer and wisdom in this area.

You want to be a generous person, but are you helping the person? Is it giving in to their addiction hurting the person? How much should you trust the person that you do not know? At the end of the day, is it the heart that matters? What should you do?

Some highlights from today’s episode; • Sometimes helping with well intent hurt the person more in their need for money. • Even though pastors are full time, there is only limited time. We must delegate tasks. • As Christians, we are held accountable here on earth for how we use our time, talent, and treasure. • Because pastors can’t do everything, there must be wise stewardship of seeing how the church should respond to the community’s needs.

• Pastors, it’s ok if you don’t know it all. That is not your job to know it all. So, don’t pretend.

• My general practice in ministry is to pray and give time. Time is always your best friend.

• Let’s rip the band-aid off right now, so it won’t hurt anymore. • I worry if I ask family and their life, they get their hopes up and lead the person on.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. Every Church’s Response is Different

• We want to love people well, but we don’t give out cash.

• Why not give out cash? Examples: Drug addicts asking for money.

• Missions Overseas at times can create codependent relationships that hurt.

• Asking the Right Questions (Diagnostic questions) based on Romans 13:1-2.

• (1) Parental Authority. (2) Political Authority (3) Ecclesiological Authority (4) Governmental Authority.

• What are Guardrails to Have Even Beforehand?

• What are available resources that are out there in the community?

• Deacon ministry based on Acts 5 as “servers” to step in.

• The benevolence committee to oversee the needs of the flock.

• James 1:27 is clear. We must take care of the outcast and the needy.

• God divides the sheep from the goat (Matt 25:31-46).

• Providing financial stewardship seminary classes

• Food pantry ministry. Provide basic needs for the folks in the community.

• How Do You Tell People “No” in Giving Money?

• Not to give an immediate answer. Have time to pray over it.

• Right up front, tell the person, “We just don’t give money out” and end the conversation.

• Amid the questions, make sure to have a gospel conversation.

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast • When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor and Yourself.

• Financial Peace University with Dave Ramsey

• The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the topic of the waiting game.

Do you ever wonder why God makes us wait on certain things? Whether good or bad? Why does God do that?

Here are five points we lay out as we converse on waiting on the LORD.

Some highlights from today’s episode; * There’s the saying that goes like this, “Good things are worth waiting for.” * Sometimes we pray, “God I want PATIENCE RIGHT NOW!” * Praying a lot of time is actually waiting. * A lot of bad things happen not because we step out with faith but step out with fear. * It is easy to become angry-bitter-cynical Christian, but you can have confident joy in Christ by having a deepening relationship with Him! * We want to be omniscient (all knowing), omnipotent (all powerful) and omnipresent (everywhere). The reality is that, we are not! Only God is and we are utterly dependent on Him. * “Need is not language for the creatures, not worthy of the Creator” – A.W. Tozer • Young pastor overestimate what they can accomplish in 1 year and underestimate what God can accomplish in 15 years of His ministry. * Discipleship is not just information. It’s definitely part of it, but most of it is imitation. * We cannot expect people to emulate something that we ourselves are not emulating. * Information without application leads to frustration. Information with application leads to true transformation. * A thankful heart is always better at waiting on the LORD.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. To learn how to trust Him. - Hannah’s solemn promise unto God with a child “Samuel” (1 Sam 1:11-28).

• Abraham: The Man of Faith (Gen 12:1-3).

• “How can I be sure? Would He fulfil His promise? (Gen 15:2-3).

• The Birth of Isaac (Gen 21:1-6).

• Abraham’s Tested by Offering Isaac (Gen 22:1-19).

• “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?” (Jer 17:9).

• To deep our relationship with God.

• “Be anxious without anything. But in everything with prayer and supplication….” (Phil 4:6-7).

• “Cast your anxiety unto the LORD because He cares for you.” (1 Pet 5:7).

• “Drew near to God and He will draw near to you.” (Jam 4:8).

• Waiting in the church planting season with Brandon.

• “To live is Christ and to die gain” (Phil 1:21).

• “Rejoice in the Lord. Again, I say to you, rejoice!” (Phil 4:4).

• To shape your character.

• The great lesson in humility through the waiting game.

• The story of going through with NAMB of church planting residency program.

• “Clothe yourself with humility. Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God” (1 Pet 5:5-6).

• “Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one receive the prize? So, run that you may obtain it.” (1 Cor 9:24).

• To grow in your wisdom and knowledge.

• Young people say, “Why go to Bible college and seminary? All you need is Jesus and DON’T WAIT!”

• “Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished.” (Acts 4:13).

• Internal calling & external calling: Waiting is the process in following God’s leading.

• “Follow me as I follow Christ.” (1 Cor 11:1).

• To create at heart of gratitude.

• “Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles.” (1 Pet 2:11).

• The already-not-yet complex that believers are living in.

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * Remix Church: Better Together * North American Mission Board * Discerning Your Call to Ministry: How to Know For Sure and What to Do About it * The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on the question, “Can one be certain of one’s salvation?”

Isn’t that the question we ask at funerals? Is he/she really saved? This could be a real dilemma for families that are mourning over the death of a loved one.

Here are four points we layout as we converse about this important topic of salvation.

Some highlights from today’s episode; * The Protestant Reformation was not a revolt. The reformers were re-forming back to the original roots of what Scripture intended. * Does Paul contradict James in their theology? Is there an error in Scripture? * “Nothing less than the whole Bible can make a whole Christian” – A.W. Tozer * The relationship between the law and grace is one of the perennial theological challenges facing the church. * Some churches have gone to the extreme by saying laws are bad, therefore, imperatives and commands are not of the grace of the gospel. * They lean on “Christ” but have a, “Get Out of Jail Free card” They say, “No matter what happens the man upstairs is good with me. He loves me and forgives me!” Do they know Jesus? * The fruit of your life reveals the root of your heart. * Sanctification doesn’t provide Justification, but Sanctification proves your justification. * At my funeral, I want people to notice my roots were deep into Jesus.

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. Book of James vs. the Book of Romans. - “Faith without works is dead” (James 2:14-16).

• “For by grace you have been saved through faith you are saved. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God.” (Eph 2:8).

• Grace as an acronym is, “God’s. Riches. At. Christ’s. Expense”

• Justification & Sanctification.

• Ordo Salutis (Latin: “Order of salvation”)

• Election: God’s choice of people to be saved (Rom 8:33).

• Predestination: Even before the foundation of the world (Eph 1:4).

• Foreknowledge: God as all-knowing in His omniscience (Jer 1:5).

• Gospel call: Proclamation of the good news of Christ (Matt 11:28).

• Regeneration: Born again (John 1:12-14)

• Conversion: Faith and repentance (Mark 1:15).

• Justification: Right legal standing (Rom 8:28-29).

• Adoption: Membership in God’s family (Col 1:13).

• Sanctification: Right conduct of life (2 Pet 3:18).

• Legalism People vs. Grace-Only People.

• “Feed the hungry, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, visit the sick, visit those in prison.” (Matt 25:34-37)

• There are two typical responses from Two different camps

• 1. Legalism = (Pharisaical, Moralistic Therapeutic Deism) = “knit picker” overvalue the law
• 1. Anti-Nomionism (Negative pronoun, nomos = law) = “grace guys” overvalue grace

• Neither understands the character of God as our loving and gracious heavenly Father.

• Fruit & Roots.

• “You will recognize them by their fruit” (Matt 7:20).

• “For out of the heart come evil thoughts” (Matt 15:19).

• “Fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness” (Gal 5:22-23).

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * Martin Luther and the Reformation – R.C. Sproul with Ligonier Ministries * Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Doctrine by Wayne Grudem * The Whole in Our Holiness by Ligon Duncan from T4G 2018 * New Testament Theology: Magnifying God in Christ by Thomas R. Schreiner * The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on what they wished they’d known before entering into ministry.

What were bits of information that would have been helpful to know before entering into ministry? What tips or even advice I would have wished I had known before pastoring a church?

Here are five things that bible college/seminary did not teach us but has been helpful knowing serving in the local church.

Some highlights from today’s episode; * People need to feel my care before they hear my message. * Church split rarely happens over theology. It happens over the color of the carpet. * Not everyone was excited to talk about theology as much as I did in seminary. * At the end of the day, the church doesn’t need me as much as I want to believe it. * I will always have another church position. My wife? I can’t get a 2nd chance with her. * Forsaking your family for the sake of ministry actually forsakes your ministry. * For every “Yes” to ministry is a “No” to your family. * “Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.” – an old proverb. * Ministry is tough and is never for the faint hearted. * Jesus was given a crown of thorns. Why do we expect to be given a crown of roses? * Pray more and be still more. * “A passion to preach without a burden to study is a desire to perform.” – H.B. Charles

Here’s the breakdown outline from today’s conversation; 1. Relationships over your sermons/lessons.

• “People don’t care how much you know until they know how much you care about them.”

• At the end of the day, the ministry is relationships.

• People don’t care how many degrees you have; “does he care for me or listen to me?”

• Pastoring is a leadership issue. Without sheep, you are not a shepherd.

• God first, Family second, then ministry.

• Do not forsake your family for the sake of ministry.

• Saying no to ministry means saying no to work. It does not mean saying no to God.

• Marriage vows: You didn’t say that to the ministry, but you did say that to your wife.

• All about Communication: Assume less, tell people your expectations in ministry.

• Vision without action is daydreaming. Action without vision is a nightmare.

• “Where there is no vision, the people perish” (Prov 29:18).

• As a Pastor, I ought to pray more.

• In Bible college and seminary, we talked about prayer, but we did not model prayer.

• Prayer was never part of the DNA of every fiber and cell of my being.

• Cross being crucified in the image of God through hardship.

• “Cast your anxiety unto the LORD, because he cares for you” (1 Pet 5:7).

• The church grows healthier, rather than perhaps the size. More theologically grounded.

• Be you, not MacArthur.

• God gave you personality and wants to use you for your ministry.

• Celebrity Pastor vs. Authentic Self: How do you preach based on your skillset?

• You don’t have to be someone else, and someone else doesn’t have to be you.

• “Put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander.” (1 Pet 2:1)

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * The Majesty’s Men

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on how to navigate through theological differences with other Christians.

Theological disagreement can cause church splits, tear up churches and ultimately jeopardize Christian Unity.

Some highlights from today’s episode; * The gospel is the story of King Jesus, God’s Son who came, died, and rose again for sinners, so all who believe, repent, and follow him supremely might inherit the eternal joy in the kingdom of God forever. * There is no hope outside of Christ. As the reformer will say, “Sola Christus” which means “In Christ alone” * If you try to define the Trinity, you will lose your mind. If you try to deny the Trinity, you will lose your soul. * Scripture is inerrant and has no errors. Christians stand on the sole authority of Scripture alone as Scripture is divinely inspired, wholly infallible, and is sufficient for all matters of life. * In essentials unity, in the non-essentials liberty, in all things charity. * The message of the gospel stays the same, but the modes of the gospel look different over time. * Believers engage the ever-changing culture with the never-changing gospels. * If its opinions, I should be able to say, “You know, I was wrong” We have lost that as a culture! We can’t admit that I was wrong. * Jesus had a Judas Iscariot. There is always one of those in churches as well. * There is a massive difference between a critical mind and a critical spirit. The former is wise and humble. The latter is proud and divisive. * If you want everyone to be happy, don’t’ be a leader. Go sell ice cream instead. * The gospel is the picture of biblical reconciliation. God reconciles us to him, therefore, we ought to be reconciled to one another. If you’re not interested in reconciliation, I’m not sure if you’re interested in the fullness of the gospel. * Let the gray be gray. If the bible is gray on it, let it be gray!

Here’s an outline from today’s conversation; 1. Scriptural Command to Beware of False Teachers

• “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” (Matt 7:15).

• “If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.” (1 John 1:7-8).

• “Look out for the dogs, look out for the evildoers, look out for those who mutilate the flesh.” (Phil 3:2).

• “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own? (1 Cor 6:19).

• “O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was portrayed as crucified.” (Gal 3:1).

• “First and foremost, I urge God’s people... God our Savior who desires for everyone to be saved and know the truth.” (1 Tim 2:1-4).

• “Be careful not to be a stumbling block to the weak” (1 Cor 8:9).

• It is Okay to Disagree

• “Paul and Barnabas went their separate ways” (Acts 15:36-16:10).

• Disagreement and conflict are not always bad. It may be an opportunity for growth and maturity.

• Disagreement depending on the topic is crucial.

Theological Outline for Levels of Disagreement: 1st degree, 2nd degree, 3rd degree

(1). Doctrinal Foundation: 1st-degree theological issues.

• Salvation: exclusivity of Christ Jesus alone (John 14:6).

• “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God.” (Eph 2:8).

• The doctrine of the Holy Trinity: “This is my Son, whom I am well pleased” (Matt 3:17).

• Example with Jehovah’s Witness: Denial of John 1:1 with, “the Word was a god” denied the divinity of Christ.

(2). Disputed Doctrines: 2nd-degree theological issues.

• “Do This in Remembrance of Me” (1 Cor 11:23-25).

• Example: The sacrament of baptism with sprinkling vs. immersion (Presbyterian vs. Baptist).

• “But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing roots of the olive tree.” (Rom 11:17).

(3). Mere Opinions: 3rd-degree theological issues.

• “As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct.” (1 Pet 1:15-16).

• Beware of Spiritual Snipers Ready to Split and Divide the Church

• There are always 10% angry people that feel like the 90% majority.

• “So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and slander” (1 Peter 2:1-3)

• Satan is, “the accuser of the brethren” (Rev 12:9-11).

• Some conflicts are not merely bad or unhealthy, it is satanic.

• “Comfort one another and edify one another” (1 Thess 5:11).

• “If brother sins against you, go and show him his fault privately” (Matt 18:15).

• Gossip rarely brings reconciliation gossip that will eventually destroy your church.

• Unity is Crucial to the Body of Christ

• “By this, all men will know that you are my disciples. If you love one another” (John 13:35).

• Unity is not uniformity. The distinction is not necessarily division.

• “There is one body and one Spirit – just as you were called to one hope that belongs to your call one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all.” (Eph 4:4-6).

• The 35 One Another Ministries: Encourage one another (1 Thess 5:11), prefer one another (Rom 12:10), spur on one another (Heb 10:24)….etc

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * SBC President J.D. Greear says, “Black Lives Matter” * Matt Chandler: Church has mostly “refused to participate” on race issues. * Black Lives Matter: Affirm the Sentence, Not the Movement by Albert Mohler * Greg Gilbert message, “What is (and isn’t) the Gospel?” at T4G * Finding the Right Hills to Die On: The Case for Theological Triage by Gavin Ortlund * American Gospel: Christ Alone * Covenant Theology Panel Discussion with Albert Mohler, Ligon Duncon, Mark Dever * Don’t Let the Angry Ten Percent Control the Direction of Your Church * New City Catechism: What is the Church?

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In this episode of the Ordinary Radicals podcast, Jonathan Hayashi and Brandon Boatner speak on a heavy heart wrenching topic of racism in America.

Is there truly such a thing as prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race? How did Jesus respond to different race based on different belief? How should I respond against people who show superior towards certain racial groups?

Some highlights from today’s episode; * What we need right now is more conversations on this topic of racism and prejudice. We need to get rid of the stigma that says, “Let’s not talk about that.” Idea. * The sin of willful ignorance. Now, ignorance is not necessarily a put down. It simply means, you just don’t know. * Most white people will never dare to get in a black man’s shoes. Most white people are willing to jus be ignorant. * Most white people don’t have a close friend that’s just not white. That’s reality and that’s sad. Therefore, we allow segregation in our lives, country, and our legal system. * As America, we have a huge log sticking out of our eye in the area of racism. * There is this notion, “Black people are guilty until prove as innocent” in our country. When did we stop seeing people as created in the image of God? Why see them as criminals? * “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” – Dietrich Bonhoeffer * “Every person bears the divine image so when anyone is injured the heart of God is wounded.” – John Calvin * I like the word unity and diversity. We are united yet so very different and colorful, like heaven. It is a concept of heaven on earth. * “Daddy, show me how to love people who will not love me.” * Jesus doesn’t just see people from afar in a distance and preach love. He incarnates the love of God and comes in close proximity. * I go back to the Word of God. I look back to the image of God. I go back to the actions of Jesus. I want to be like Jesus. * “Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” – Martin Luther King Jr.

Here’s an outline from today’s conversation; 1. Story: Conversation with his son Isaac, “Son, you can’t go on a jog in the evening.”

• Ahmaud Arbery: Feb 23rd (Georgia)

• Breonna Taylor: March 13th (Kentucky)

• George Floyd: March 25th (Minneapolis)

• Everywhere we look, there seems to be post on this particular issue.

• Death of George Floyd

• Mission Trip: “I don’t see any color!”

• “Black Lives Matter” vs. “All Lives Matter”

• Serve in the north side of inner-city urban ministry.

• The sinful ignorance of many white people. Ignorance = do not know.

• Some say, “Racism is not the issue!” Ultimately, racism a gospel issue and is a sin issue.

• Racism is simply plain wrong.

• Creation: Adam and Eve were ethnic groups (Gen 1:27 – 2:24).

• The Tower of Babel: Language divided and scattered (Gen 11:1-32).

• White Supremacy: Racial discrimination against black minority (America: 1700 – 1800s)

• Arian-race with Nazi Germany led by Adolf Hitler (WW2: 1931 – 1945)

• “Do you not notice the log that is in your own eye?” (Matt 7:3-5)

• “I wonder what was the reason that led the police officer to… etc” WHAT?!!

• Inward Prejudice / Bias: All people have the pre-conceived pre-supposition of race.

• All people are created in the image of God (Gen 1:27).

• “To love people, we must first admit that we don’t.” Trillia Newbell

• Asian police officer committed the sin of omission (Rom 7:19).

• “Learn to do good; seek justice, cored oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause.” (Isa 1:17).

• Jesus and the Woman of Samaria: Grew up in a multi-ethnic culture (John 4:1-54).

• Practical Advice and Words of Encouragement

• Sit down and just listen to people.

• Romans 13:1-2 vs. Acts 5:29: We must listen to God rather than man.

• White people can turn off the news and move on. That’s not the case for black people.

• The Parable of the Good Samaritan: “Who is my neighbor” (Luke 10:25-37).

• Jesus doesn’t only want us to know the narrative. He enters into our narrative (Phil 2:1-11).

• The distinction between protestors & rioters.

• Don’t express, don’t suppress, don’t regress but confess to the Lord (Phil 4:6-7).

• “Weep with those who weep” (Rom 12:15-18).

• To see unity in churches, racism be ended, and have heaven down on earth.

• The Great Commandment: Love our neighbor (Matt 22:34-40).

• Be rooted and grounded in God’s Love: “For God so loved….” (John 3:16).

• “Quick to listen, slow to speak, slow to anger” (Jam 1:9).

Resources mentioned in today’s podcast * The Rule of Law and the Demands of Justice: Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and the Questions that Must Be Answered * We Need to Be Uncomfortable * “I Can’t Breathe” 4 Minneapolis Police Officers Fired After Black Man Died * Former Minneapolis police officer charged with 3rd-degree-murder * "Sacred Endurance: Finding Grace and Strength for a Lasting Faith” by Trillia Newbell * Looters ransack Target near Minneapolis amid Floyd Protest * Minneapolis pastor leads in peaceful protests after Floyd’s death * “These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd” Tweet by President Trump * If the President Tells You to Shoot Looters, You have a Duty to Disobey * Crossway: How to Grieve Racial Violence through Lament * Ahmaud Arbery and the image of God

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