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Podcast 488: Mental Health Warrior

We are very excited to introduce Bruce Schutter to share his transformative journey through the depths of mental health challenges—bipolar disorder, anxiety, and alcoholism, which in turn led him to create the ‘Mental Health Warrior Program.’ This program focuses on mindset, emotional and lifestyle adjustments such as nutrition and exercise, advocating for emotional empowerment rather than reliance on medication. Bruce, alongside Martin Pytela, emphasizes the strong link between mental and physical health, offering listeners the ‘warrior tools’ they need to regain control of their well-being. We hope this podcast connects with those facing challenges or anyone who knows someone in need of support

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MARTIN: Greetings. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today is Bruce Schutter. And we’re introducing Bruce because he is the mental health warrior and he is helping people get back on the track. Bruce, welcome to the show.

BRUCE: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

MARTIN: Oh, pleasure. As usual, it’s the story of the fallen hero who overcomes, right?

BRUCE: Yes, it is. Yes. And I certainly have the story of the fall. But then the mental warrior program or taking care of our mental health is the journey upwards.

MARTIN: Well, that’s the whole point, right?

BRUCE: Exactly.

MARTIN: My story is not that different. Mine was more about physical health, but take a pick. Right?

BRUCE: Yep. No, no, but I was going to second it. As your mental health deteriorates, your physical health, your choices on foods and exercise, of course, all fall off the map. And so my physical health was no better than my mental health.

MARTIN: Right. Well, and it’s tied. Right. Like, you would hear me talk about nutrition and how what you put into your body will truly control your physiology. And so, it’s sometimes hard to know where the chicken or the egg is or the horse and the cart. What was the primal mover here? Was it the nutrition or was it something, some dysregulation in the body itself?

BRUCE: Correct. Right. And then you have, as I found, you have your mental health challenges. But alongside of, like we said, the nutrition, poor eating, I’m starting to have physical health problems, which certainly didn’t help my body working well. So kind of, in my mind, made the mental health problems even worse as my blood pressure skyrocketed, cholesterol, all sorts of additional things the doctors are trying to help you with. And it’s just, like you said, one giant connection and a big ball of problems going down the hill fast.

MARTIN: Okay, well, maybe just to give the listener a bit of an overview, explain why you have the authority on what you’re teaching people now.

BRUCE: Sure. Yeah, we did kind of jump into it there. So it started out when I was in high school, and I knew there were some challenges. I knew some things were different. I only seemed to know the emotional ends of the spectrum. I was always really very motivated or that manic type side or a complete depression. I was filled with anxiety all the time, but over the top that it would stop me from doing things. Walking in a room with friends, even was anxiety filled, which nobody else seemed to have. And as I went along, I’m still doing things. But you’re trying to figure out there’s no information out there, what’s going wrong, what’s happening, and along the way I’m doing life things. So while I was in high school, I joined and became a rescue squad, a local tech, and then became an emergency medical technician. So I’m going out on calls. I like to say at this point, I’m jumping into life’s deep end into the pool, and I’m not even prepared to handle where I’m at in high school.

MARTIN: Yeah, this is, this is really interesting because you’re exposing yourself to essentially PTSD material.

BRUCE: Exactly.

MARTIN: While you’re totally not ready to handle that. Right?

BRUCE: Right. And the thing was, most people that I worked with, and it was a volunteer, and we had all sorts of accidents, calls, all the situations that were horrible that were trying to help people through or save their lives, literally, and nobody really knew what to do about it. It wasn’t even just tied to my age or just me. So that kind of added where people really didn’t know how to process emotions nobody talked about, because this was years ago. And so, like you said, it was kind of that perfect storm starting. And my challenges just kept growing, not even knowing I had them, not knowing I was diagnosed bipolar. And I turned to ways to use short term solutions, so I turned to alcohol as a way to tamp down the feelings or just not deal with them, I like to call it.

BRUCE: I was trying to do anything I could to avoid my emotions. And sometimes, I mean, I was doing a million things, because if you keep busy, you can also avoid emotions. So this went along.

MARTIN: These words are really interesting. Right? Like, you have people called alcoholics and workaholics and sexaholics and whatever “holics”. Which, of course, it’s just is a play on words, but, yeah, distraction, right?

BRUCE: Yes, exactly. And again, it’s all even the mental health challenges are centered on emotions, and when you don’t know how to handle them. I didn’t even know how to handle the anxiety or ways to do that. I’m looking for short term ways, basically just to get through the day, get through that situation, which is not managing it, not being able to enjoy life. And that went along. I went to college, whole challenge of things. Like you said, I’m learning from high school now to college, then out into the workforce. And along the way, it’s like I see a little line of my challenges creeping up as they’re taking over more and more of my life and more of my decisions. And by the time I got out in the workforce, it’s like I described it to a lot of people. The surface picture looked great. You go out, you graduate college, you go get a job. I’m meeting people, I got married, bought a house, things like that. But inside, I’m crumbling, and it’s like this huge downward slope while the other one’s going up. So I’m not enjoying anything, I’m not being able to handle things. I know I could do better at things if I wasn’t filled with that anxiety which, again, transfers with you into, like, work, meetings, travel. So all those life challenges along with these untreated mental health challenges, I am just crumbling to a point where at a certain point, after 20 years of this, I like to say it really controlled my life. And along the way, I’m starting to get a little bit of diagnosis, but no real action on it, no real information, even. And what happened was I got to a point, 20 years in, where I felt so powerless and had no forward way to even deal with these challenges, even the little bit I knew that I decided to try and end it all. I tried to end my life. That’s where it took me to. And I just want to say it because that was the bottom of feeling powerless and no way forward.

MARTIN: And so this is like your late thirties kind of thing?

BRUCE: This is at age 40. And I’d gone on long enough white knuckling and holding on to life, trying to get through things again. I’m still doing things. I’m not falling apart on the surface, but I’m falling apart every night. I’m struggling every day, every activity. And at that point, I got a second chance at life. And that’s what started this whole idea of, I got to find a solution. And after some internal looking, I realized the solution was the same thing that was causing all my problems. I said, wait, emotions, they have that much power to bring me down. They must have the power to show me life and bring me up. And if I could manage all of them, well, isn’t that at the core of mental health challenges, life challenges, like we’re saying? And so I started building for myself and then for others, this program, this Mental Health Warrior Program. And that came about because the first thing I wanted to do was, to myself even, was to tell people, mental health is not a weakness, and mental health challenges are not a weakness. And so I thought, a mental health warrior stands tall. A good warrior, ready for battle. We step up to the plate. And I thought that’d be a great way to introduce it and start to say, look at what we can do. The neat part is the whole idea was because I had gone through all sorts of traditional methods. And even at the point of when I finally got diagnosed with bipolar and that you’d get put on a lot of meds, it’s the first thing everybody reacts to.

MARTIN: So you did do that? You took pharmaceuticals?

BRUCE: Yeah, I did. I went to therapy. I went through every med in the book because of the side effects, the problems. It took years trying to even get stable. But then I realized everything I was trying kind of had a dead end to it. There was no, how am I going to graduate past this? How am I going to go live life when I’m either tied to all the side effects of meds or.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, the pharmaceuticals have no end. They are just treating the surface problem, not the cause of it.

BRUCE: Exactly. And I thought, there has to be a way we can get the power ourselves. And that was the whole idea of this Mental Health Warrior Program is a self help program. So a self help approach, meaning, what can we do in our life? And I started looking around my life, too, at the same time, and realizing lifestyle changes, mindset changes that I could make, that I could build on, that would strengthen me. And they became warrior tools. They became areas that helped me deal with bipolar disorder, alcoholism, and anxiety disorder. And as I started to build all of this program, I realized that it was so impactful to me and what I could do myself and actually what I do every day with this, through all of those self help approaches or all those tools, I wanted to bring it to everybody. So that’s kind of why we’re talking today.

BRUCE: Cause I wanted to show everybody. It’s amazing.

MARTIN: Yeah, you’re echoing my story.

MARTIN: I ended my career in business management and computer science and became a health coach because this was more interesting to me because I could help others in a more important way than just helping somebody make more money.

BRUCE: Right. And that’s so funny. I forgot we were both in the IT field. I was in there on all different levels for 17 years, working on projects, doing development, leading projects. Then the same thing. I felt this had a lot more impact. And I tried to weave in things as I tried to work on my sobriety in my new life. I got certified, like, as a health coach. I got certified as a personal trainer and then nutrition coach. And that opens some doors of more self help things we can do where I know we’re on the same page. And this allowed me to build this program where now I have nine different books. And each one, like the first book, is my story. And a little bit like some structure of how to be a warrior and some key components of where you start building your power, you know, how you take back that control. And then a lot of the other books, I view them as the warrior weapons. And we have things like mindset rules that I created, and there’s a library of 53 of them I have in this book that I used to remind myself to stay out of trouble and get out of trouble. They’re simple things like that we forget because we get so busy, technology and everything’s pinging and going on.

BRUCE: Mindset rule two is simply learn to respond, not react. And that was a big one for me, because, of course, I would react, go back to those old solutions, jump back to drinking, hide from my emotions. So those are some of the fun tools I created that we can use to build that mindset. And then I tried to build, and again, where we are on the same page here. Then I started seeing other things like foods and the nutrition angle and how much that affects your mental health, as well as that physical-mental health connection, because if we feed bodies better and we exercise and use better foods, we improve our physical health, which in turn helps our mental health. And again, all the different benefits I found through researching things, or food benefits for mental health, it’s just amazing to me.

MARTIN: Yeah, I could echo that. Of course, we understand how the combinations of the macronutrients will affect the internal pH, which in turn will affect the. Whether you’re drifting into acidity, which is associated with anxiety and nervousness and all that, or drifting toward alkalinity, which is associated with procrastination and despondence and depression. And you can be anywhere on that spectrum. Like, you can be swinging just by what you eat. You can bring yourself from one side to the other. And if you don’t know or don’t understand or don’t have the awareness of that, you’re just wondering, what happened? Why did it happen?

BRUCE: Right, right.

MARTIN: It’s in front of our eyes, but it’s not being offered in the mainstream because it doesn’t serve their purpose. They want to sell you a bottle of pills.

BRUCE: Right. And again, I feel like we. A lot of what I’m trying to bring to people’s awareness is all the things that are in front of us. Like, I feel a lot of times the answers, like my own answer of realizing my mental health was at the core of everything, and that was my problem slash solution. But then things like foods, where we’re eating those foods every day, our mindset that we go into things, you know, that. That pre-work we may do before we get in the car and get into traffic and get stuck and then get frustrated. Boy, we took 2 seconds to center ourselves, what an amazing outcome. Same with what you’re saying if we pick some better foods.

MARTIN: Yeah. And your statement about respond versus react, I mean, it’s a major, major thing, right? If you just take three breaths and count to something and just. Okay, well, what does this really mean?

BRUCE: Right. And it helps. One of the things I create as part of the program, so I have the books, is from other groups. I noticed they always have something you can carry with them, from the group to remind you. So I created a mental health warrior challenge coin because I had done some consulting with the military, and they had the challenge coin representing, we overcame this challenge, or I was here type of thing, and they could carry it around. So I thought it’d be great to have one of those. And I put on the back some warrior wisdom. I have different ones, but the first one I did was respond, not react. And I literally carry it around, and people say they also carry it, friends and family have used it and people have carried it, and they take it to a meeting or something. Again, it’s so important. If we just take that pause, get a better answer, a better outcome.

MARTIN: Fair enough. So you now have distilled all of this into a graduated program, or how do you deliver it?

BRUCE: Well, right now the program is basically in all the different books. I have a cornerstone book, which is “I triumphed over bipolar, alcoholism, and anxiety disorder by becoming a mental health warrior.” And then I lay out the different components. There’s four components to keep it straightforward but powerful, and then the additional books. And then what I’m trying to do is eventually, I would like to work with people directly, but right now I’m trying to bring awareness of it. So I’m doing my own podcast, writing articles and things like that to get people where what they can do. So I’m trying to get them to take action, and we’re trying to bring it out through the books as a way you can take in the information at your own pace, bring it to your life again, fit it in, whichever works. And part of what I’m doing, too, is with the variety of books, is they’re on different topics, so certain areas might appeal to you more. And there were certain things I found. One of them I called this one book, it’s the one bag life, and it’s about less stuff, more experiences, because I had. And we had gathered so many material goods and so many things, and I realized half of my anxiety came from needing more or taking care of the million things we never got to use or felt we needed. I thought that would be a great thing to bring to people’s attention and show how that positively affects your mental health.

MARTIN: Well, and one of the symptoms of mental illness is hoarding. And part of the hoarding problem is you could be hoarding all kinds of stuff. You could be hoarding material things or just a segment, like books or magazines or, I don’t know, software or games or whatever. Pick a thing. And this hoarding just is blocking you from having a life. And you’re saying it really well.

BRUCE: And again, it’s interesting what you brought up. You could even have so many activities or so many commitments that you get caught up into that constant being busy. And I felt like all I did was take care of things or go to things and never enjoy them. You know, I never got to what was important, like you’re saying. And so a big part of that book is, again, to step back as, one of the warrior components is to find your values, because if you go after everything and you’re not clear on your path, well, it makes it very difficult to have a solid emotional center, because you’re going after everything, and you need to figure out what’s important to you, and that will go a long way. Like, I had to myself that it wasn’t all these material goods. And the whole point of the book was, it’s really about experiences, you know, all the things you can do in life.

MARTIN: It’s really interesting. In reflecting on my life, I’m looking back, I’m thinking, I so wish I had a coach back when that would help me understand, first of all, the process of sorting through what’s important and why. I was never asked the important questions. I was never taught how to learn to. I was never taught how to think. I was never taught how. Like, I had to learn it the hard way. And you’re describing it when you’re talking about your teenage years and your growing up time. It was just like you were thrown at it and you were flailing at it, really, hoping somehow that it will sort itself out. And if you had your today’s version of yourself talking to you about what really matters, your life would have been so much better.

BRUCE: Yeah. And that’s one of the things I’m trying to do too, is I give talks to groups and things on these various topics because at all different age levels, it’s interesting. I’ll talk to a group and it can be at a business company talk, but they also really like the idea of less stuff, more experiences, because they see that’s part of that whole balance of what you want to do in life. And you’re right. I wish I had known all of that now, but I’m going to bring it out to everybody today.

MARTIN: Yeah, this is the good part. Whoever’s listening to this, you can see two guys who are past midlife who have done the hard work and can pass it on. So if you’re finding yourself wondering why things aren’t as good as they could be, this may be because you didn’t have a guide. And I promise you that having a coach is worth its money in gold because the coach will be able to see where your gaps are and help you overcome that.

BRUCE: Yep. It’s always, always that outside perspective and people need that too. And I completely agree, too, because I like to tell people it’s never too late and there’s never too many problems because I use that as an example too, because all that time as an EMT and that, that kept coming back to me. And the PTSD from that, from the experiences and literally having someone die in your hands, especially when you’re 18 years old, you really don’t know how to process that. And it took me years to figure that out, which caused so much of the problems too, along the way. So I just want to always tell people, just like you’re saying it’s never too late. And then you can turn the corner and it’s fantastic what you can do, especially with mental health and how you can. Embracing emotions, to me, has allowed me to finally, I call it, I get the full life experience.

BRUCE: Before I was staying on little narrow paths because I was trying to avoid all the emotions. And now I’ve done things and I’m doing things that I couldn’t even imagine I could have done. And you probably feel the same way. Some days you look and think, wow, like, I’m doing this today, but boy, ten years ago, no.

MARTIN: Yeah, all that.

BRUCE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. So, Bruce, how do people access all these beautiful experiences that they can have with you? I understand. Well, let’s start from the website, right?

BRUCE: Yep. So the website’s Bruce Schutter and it’s schutter. BruceSchutter.com. Also, I tell people you can just type in “mental health warrior program” and it’ll bring you to the website. So I’ve created that as like the central hub that has links to my podcast. I have a free book to get people started, newsletter, things like that that I’m starting. So all that information is there. And then the books and things like that are up on Amazon, but it links from there. That’s like the best spot to go to. Or, the best part, too, as I’m sure you know, is any of the social media places. I have a presence on that with the mental health warrior program or Bruce Schutter, so you can go there.

I try to keep people updated on what’s going on, tell them about new podcasts or new articles, always trying to bring in some new action tips people can take. So that’s definitely the best way to start to take advantage of all that. And there’s also then just like any website, you can have a contact form and things like I do speaking engagements, and right now we’re not doing like one on one that may come down the road, but it’s just really the hub for all the resources to get you started. And I try to provide a variety of things to keep people interested.

BRUCE: And then I have my podcast with shorter episodes to get you interested in what you can do as a warrior or if you like to read better, I have a free book and you can get started with tools in there. So I want to make sure I cover all the bases.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, that’s good, because it’s the way you’re doing it. Makes it affordable.

BRUCE: Yes, and that’s something we had talked about and everything with everything before, with some of the things I went through with the therapy and the meds and all of that. I’m very aware, too, of the cost of healthcare and the cost these days, especially in the mental health areas. And one of the things I’m trying to do is offer with this idea of self-help, is you can go and buy a book. I like to say for the cost of going to lunch, you could buy a book and get started on taking care of your mental health and learn things you can do each day, which I find so amazing. And I think that’s what’s kind of needed, as I always describe it, as there’s the top level when you need professional help and you need, certain times you need that help at the very top level. But what do we do to get started? You know, where’s that bottom level where everybody personally can just get started on things. And I’m trying to reach out to that level and get people to accept things, to be able to say, hey, it’s okay to have problems. You know, all the things we’re talking about openly, a lot of people are still struggling with, and I want to help out with that too. To get them to say it’s okay. And then getting a book and reading things about what you can do, I believe will empower people and that will keep pushing them to learn more and do more.

MARTIN: Yeah, well, many of us can be our own therapists, really, the solution is, you already said it, but the solution is in taking the gap and realizing, oh, hold on, I’m not going to react from the whatever it is that’s driving my silly or bad decisions and I’m going to just switch over to the other side and you can see it, like, I don’t want to talk to the crazy part of me today, I want to talk to the together part of me today and see what that wood suggest for me to do.

BRUCE: Yes.

MARTIN: And again, you’re explaining it well.

BRUCE: People always ask, too. I always like to throw in this scenario of, great to have all that outside help, but what do you do when it’s two in the morning and you wake up and your mind’s racing or maybe that depression has crept in and you feel like, oh, my life is not worth living. And I’m like, that’s where that self empowerment, that piece like we’re talking about is so important because we need to have that power ourselves. We need to feel more in control. And throughout the days, just like you’re saying. I know we keep using the word, but it’s so empowering that if you start taking care of your personal life, then your interactions at work, your interactions with friends and family, they can grow on that. And the best part is, I found it’s kind of like once you open the door, it’s amazing because you can start talking to more and more people about it. And that’s a sharing that I know we need with mental health because we don’t want to talk about too much.

BRUCE: But the more we do it, I find myself in amazing conversations in places, in line at a supermarket, talking about mental health to somebody because I happen to wear it on my shirt. And that’s a great piece of empowerment to be able to have an open conversation just like we’re doing. But we set this up, those are the unplanned bonuses.

MARTIN: Well, I especially appreciate the fact that you are helping people to help themselves. It’s so easy to throw a $6,000 program on the wall and just let the really rich people come to you and just help them as a private coach. But that catches only a few. What you’re doing, I think is really important because it’s at the level of everyone. There’s not a soul on the planet that cannot afford to participate at your level, the way you’re bringing it in and because of your lived experience, the way you’re putting it, and the way of understanding and just how organized your mind is and that you’re able to actually structure it for a person is that there’s no doubt in my mind that you will help a lot of people. All they have to do is just allow you into their life.

BRUCE: Thank you. And I find it amazing because I keep learning more things myself and then putting them into additional books. I started out with this a little bit, but mindfulness. And that fed into mindfulness along with cooking as a way. We already talked about how important it is to choose the right foods. But even doing cooking and enjoying the smells and your creation of a nice meal, what a wonderful thing I never had before. And you benefit across the board.

MARTIN: It’s known as walking meditation. Well, in this walking meditation, you’re actually cooking in your kitchen. And the process itself. Right. Like, instead of considering it as a struggle and something that you hate doing, and instead run into some fast food restaurant to grab something on the way. If you can just devote 2 hours of your life to the shopping and the prep and the doing, and you will have a fantastic experience and you will be actually more healthy, mentally healthy, and physically healthy at the end of this.

BRUCE: Right, exactly. And that’s where I made the book I was talking about, the three food rules of the mental health warrior. They’re very straightforward because I believe sometimes we get too complicated and it’s a little hard to sustain it then. But it’s low carb, no sugar, and then less processed, minimally processed foods. And if you follow those guidelines, like you said, you could go to a supermarket, it’s fairly straightforward. I mean, there’s details obviously, behind all of them. You know, how many grams of carbs, things like that. But you get the idea that you can make some great choices and then that comes home. Then you could use the preparation to help you work through some of your mental health issues. Racing thoughts and things calms me down with cooking. Again, I’ve tried to put some of that in as tools that people can use, and then again, all of that builds up to where you are now taking action, like you said, every day. And it just keeps building, which is fantastic, because what I found it allows people to do, and the people I’ve talked to is that you start building on that, and then you take your life and say new directions that you thought, oh, I couldn’t go there. And funny enough, life throws you some more challenges because you’re taking on something new, but you’re prepared to handle it, and you kind of keep stepping up and building the blocks.

MARTIN: Yeah, it’s well put. Because if you know that you can learn cooking from nothing, then you can also learn airplane building, or you can learn, I mean, pick anything. You can learn to play a musical instrument. All you have to do is just say, okay, how is this done?

BRUCE: Right, right. Or even maybe you’re cooking. Funny enough, I found this is a funny one, but your cooking gets you to share with people, and next thing you know, you’re talking to more people, which helped my social anxiety a lot. And that was fantastic, because now I found I have a connection with people talking about foods and cooking and things like that.

MARTIN: Right. And then you decide, okay, I’m learning Thai food and Ukrainian food and whatever else.

BRUCE: Right, right, exactly.

MARTIN: And then. Then you have to go to, I don’t know, what cultural center for the Serbians and say, well, how do you do proper serbian food? And you meet Serbian people.

BRUCE: Yeah. But then you’ve gained a whole new interest, and at the same time, that boosts your mental health and your ability to handle your challenges. I mean, it certainly gives you a solid ground when my bipolar is still going to send me. I didn’t have a magic wand because I became a mental health warrior and say, well, no more bipolar or no more anxiety and no more PTSD, but I can manage wherever it sends me. So if it sends me into depression, I have my tools and ways for that. And if it goes to the other end, I can handle that and keep it under control. And I found it amazing because basically, I love to say we gain back the power, all that power I gave up over those years, I found I could have it back. And then, therefore, your challenges, they really don’t become as scary, and they lose all that control over your life, which is amazing.

MARTIN: Yeah. I think we may as well end it on this note, saying, okay, look, folks, this is a very well put together, affordable, well structured program that helps anyone grow up. So if you yourself have struggled, great. If you have someone in your circle of influence that you see struggling, just introduce them. This stuff is worth, well I don’t know how to put it, but experience is in gold, right?

BRUCE: And I.

MARTIN: Go ahead.

BRUCE: No, I was just going to say I always end up telling people, if you’re struggling yourself, use my story, like we said, never too late. You could have a lot of challenges like I do. I just happen to pick up a lot of them through genetic lottery, whatever. But you can triumph over them. You can keep moving forward and you can. You can triumph as a warrior over all those challenges.

MARTIN: Awesome. Okay, so www.BruceSchutter.com Go there. Bruce, Thank you. This is so much worth our time.

BRUCE: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Had a lot of fun talking.

MARTIN: This is Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com. Thank you.

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Podcast 487: Master Peace Clinical Study (Part 1)

Martin Pytela sits down with Matt Hazen from Human Consciousness Support to explore groundbreaking discoveries in the battle against environmental toxins. Matt shares insights from a recent study of 24 participants, investigating the effects of “forever chemicals” like lead, mercury, and graphene oxide have on our health. Together, they reveal the alarming rise in industrial toxins and introduce Master Peace, a natural solution aimed at helping the body detoxify and regain balance. Join us for an in-depth discussion on how we can reclaim our health in a polluted world, and don’t miss part two, where the study results will be revealed.

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MARTIN: Hi, everyone. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast and with me today, Matt Hazen of Human Consciousness Support. We get the Master Peace product from Matt. And I am so grateful for this association. Welcome, Matt.

MATT: Hi, Martin. Always good to talk to you.

MARTIN: Yeah, Matt, I am just so impressed with you for, never mind all the anecdotal stories that we are getting from the field. I mean, my own included, people getting better, people having positive experiences. But you are really stepping it up, putting out real clinical, scientific, measurable data, right?

MATT: Absolutely. Yeah. What we need to do, as an entire population, is learn how to be critical thinkers again. We’ve been programmed to believe the authority figures are the doctors a lot of times and what not, instead of looking for the data and evidence and analysis, which are ironclad facts. And so we’re real excited. And today we’re actually going to get a chance to show people what is our baseline, our beginning results to a study with 24 people. It’s really important that people see with their eyes and get to take this information in so they can understand the world that they live in and how best to maintain and thrive and have their best health in today’s unique times.

MARTIN: Okay. This totally makes sense. I have been talking about the tragedy of the Industrial Revolution. On one hand, we are getting all these wonderful conveniences. We have products that are really helping us live lives that are more comfortable, but at the same time, we are polluting the planet in a way that’s just. Well, I think we are hitting what I would call the inflection point, the critical mass, the toxic point, where all of a sudden things are going to get out of hand.

MATT: I agree. Yeah, we’re at a tipping point. We can look at not just human health and how the human race is in a worldwide health epidemic, but you can look at our woods, you can look at our ecosystem. Everything is showing trouble. And especially now that we’re looking at tested levels, we’re really going to see why. Well, it looks bad, but we’re going to really see why it’s looking that bad.

MARTIN: Yeah, I actually wanted to introduce this concept. I don’t know if, well, it’s worth sharing. And it’s this, the lethality of things. As in, what kills you. It’s known as the LD, as in lethal dose. Now, you can easily establish an LD. As in LD1 means that one out of a hundred dies from the dose. LD100 means everybody dies. And a lot of testing that’s done for drug companies is done on LD50, and that’s usually done with mice, not with people. But you administer a dose, and if 50 out of 100 die, that’s known as the LD50. Here’s the mental exercise I want everyone to get, which is this. When you combine LD1 of mercury with LD1 of lead, meaning kills 1 in 100. Kills 1 in 100. What do you think you get?

MATT: If I was going to guess, I would say it’s at least exponential, maybe 10 instead of 1.

MARTIN: Yeah. But the answer really is 100. Combining LD1 of Lead with LD1, of Mercury at the same time kills everybody because it’s this exponential amplification of the effect.

MATT: Yeah. It’s a synergistic- Yeah. It’s always the way it works, whether it’s good or bad, it’s how things work together.

MARTIN: Yeah. And so with the scientific method, as employed by pharmaceutical industry and chemical industry, tends to isolate things. They like to treat one thing at a time. They like to isolate the variables to one. But that’s false wisdom, because you don’t see it in its complexity. You’re missing the big picture.

MATT: That’s right. And they’ll tell you. They’ll admit that, yeah, lead’s bad, mercury’s bad, fluoride’s bad, chlorine’s bad. They won’t say, yeah, but they’re all together destroying our planet. And we need to make complete changes on how our industrial processes are really where it needs to start. First and foremost, all these exhaust fumes you’re bringing up maybe one of the biggest points that a lot of people don’t realize, which is when the industrial revolution started, we had all these combustion engines, petroleum based products, and when those exhaust fumes and refineries and chemical plants started having those harmful chemicals, we think they disappear, go away, because they’re microscopic. But that’s not the way it works. They’re called forever chemicals because they’re forever.

MATT: And they’re not just forever in the environment, as if they don’t get into you and other sentient beings. It gets into everything. So if something’s in the ocean and it’s poured into the ocean, in the Pacific Ocean, it ends up in the Atlantic Ocean if you give it enough time. And so when one person, two, three years ago, we wouldn’t see, we’ve seen graphene anomalies in very few people’s blood. Now they can’t do a live blood analysis anywhere in the world without seeing them, no matter how healthy the person is. So we’re dealing with the smorgasbord of toxicity, and we better get it under wrap before much further.

MARTIN: Yeah, you made actually a really cool point with the graphene oxide because there are some people who are making suggestions that it’s only in people who have been injected with things that have graphene oxide in it. But in fact, it’s in the environment. It’s in everyone.

MATT: Well, we’re going to prove different to them today, Martin, because we have a study with 24 people. 13 of them have been jabbed and eleven of them haven’t been. But when you actually look at their graphene oxide levels, also like their hydrogel, which is the carrier of the graphene oxide system, it doesn’t matter if they’ve been jabbed or not. Their levels are high. Some that haven’t been jabbed are much higher than some that have been. Yeah.

MARTIN: And this is the point I just tried to make, which is probably in the environment, in the water, in the food, in the air. It’s just in us. So we like to do the following. So this is a volume one or podcast one. We are actually just going to show you the baseline. We’re going to show you some examples of people who have already started on the test. This is just before they started on the product. They’ve been tested just to see where we are.

MATT: This is a medical study. This has an abstract methodology. This will be published in peer review. Every place that will allow us to publish it has been monitored by Doctor Robert Young, who’s done countless of these. And what we’re doing is we have 24 test subjects who, we take their blood levels and test the intracellular levels of forever chemicals, 27 of them. And what that means is, we took their blood to measure the inside the cell levels of things like fluoride, glyphosate, graphene oxide, mercury, different types of aluminum, there’s several of lead. And so we got the results and then we put them on Master Peace.

MATT: We have done an initial study, an initial pilot study, which was only with three people. We wanted to see how the results went out before we tried to take on something like this. There’s no other companies out there that are really challenging their products’ effectiveness and trying to show people a workable, feasible, affordable, simple, effective solution to be able to get these unnatural things out of their body. And so, you have a chart pulled up right here. And so instead of,

MARTIN: Let’s talk about this a wee bit. So we have. We are only showing five out of the 24 that you have done. The main point being here is that you’re really not sparing much of an expense. You’re going all in. This is not just a narrow test. This is a broad test.

MATT: We’re a brand new company, and this is costing us almost $200,000. We’re not even, we’re a year old. We don’t pay money in the marketing to try to have catchy sales pitches. We put our money into evidence. And so this is why we’re the first and only company that has done this. But also, Martin, these are intracellular levels. See how you see intracellular electrical capacity? Passing lymphocytes. We are also a part of the study, we’re not just taking the blood. We’re taking the urine and testing it for all the heavy metals. And the hair and testing it for all the heavy metals. So there’s nowhere for these toxins to hide. We’re going to see how they’re moving in. In the body and out.

MARTIN: Okay. So let’s just discuss what’s going to be on screen for a moment. And what I see here is, for one thing, it looks European by the units and the commas and the spellings. So good on you that you’ve actually taken it offshore to places where real science is actually still unaffected.

MATT: In America, there’s no labs that will test for any of this stuff.

MARTIN: Yeah. And so the other thing is, if you look at the line just going across, you will see that there is this evaluation of how bad we think this is, or they think this is. This is the actual value averaging four separate measurements. And over here is the value that’s the plus minus variance in it. So that gives you the precision of the confidence that we have in this value being accurate. So.

MATT: Yes. And to be clear, right before this study started, they did their yearly recalibration. And that’s why, when we look at those values, we see they’re very, very close. So every time they’re making a test so that everybody understands when we’re taking their blood and they’re testing it, which is obviously third party testing, they’re testing it four times and seeing, Making sure it all comes out the same. They double check themselves, too. And you can see how close their equipment is at testing. Yeah.

MARTIN: Right. So one other word should be here is that they show here tolerable. Borderline high. Very high. Which, you know, tolerable is not making you sick. Borderline may make you sick. High will probably make you sick. And very high will for sure make you sick.

MATT: Very high is a lot. Yeah. You’re starting to get off to where the cut off the machine is about 600.

MARTIN: So anyway, the point being is. So this is your typical sample. Persons, I don’t know their ages, are what, somewhere between 40 and 65?

MATT: 25 to 87

MARTIN: Oh, okay. All broad spectrum. Okay.

MATT: All different types of people. We know every single thing about them. There’s a four page sheet. We know their life story. Yes.

MARTIN: Okay. Yeah. This has been, of course, anonymized. We don’t want to reveal them. But here’s an example. Right. So what is being tested?

MATT: So number one, that’s polyethylene glycol. That’s what you call hydrogel. Hydrogel is if you got a ballistic missile, it’s kind of like the rocket and the graphene oxide is the bomb on the end. And so hydrogel gets it in there. So you obviously don’t want that in your body. It’s plastic.

MARTIN: Well, speaking of which, PEG, polyethylene glycol is what is used in vaping solutions to make them absorbable.

MATT: Yeah. And transdermal medications. It’s very widely used in the pharmaceutical industry because it does what they want it to do. It brings to get stuff in there.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah. It’s a vector, it’s a transport medium. So of course, aluminum, the euro spelling, studies show that high aluminum is associated with brain destruction.

MATT: All types of issues. Yeah.

MARTIN: Many issues. But aluminum is used either in cooking or in food packaging. But the worst part is that it’s used as an adjuvant in injections.

MATT: Yes. And they even put it in things like deodorant. You know, it’s what I call a super threat. Aluminum is a conductor. The way it works, it makes a lot of things. And it’s very paramagnetic.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, anyway, so this is going to be a list that we will not go through completely in every single arsenic. Well, it’s toxic. It killed Napoleon, it will kill many others.

MATT: Right.

MARTIN: Aspergillus, that’s a black mold.

MATT: Yep. Yep. Atrazine is a chemical, a gender dysphoria chemical where you have girls that think they’re boys, boys think they’re girls.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MATT: And so, you know, we want to see if Master Peace can get that down because that’s a problem in itself.

MARTIN: Right. Strong, strong statement. In fact, you see that in nature, right. These days frogs are hermaphroditic. Snakes, I just saw it on television yesterday. A male snake giving birth to babies. Well, go figure, right?

MATT: Yeah.

MARTIN: Anyway, barium, that’s. I’m not sure what it does, but.

MATT: It is a very harmful, heavy metal that is used in a lot of things.

MARTIN: Right. So this thing, bisphenol, BPA, is plastic bottles. This is a plasticizer modifier. It’s in your plastic dishes. It’s not good for you. It will create the condition in your body that will be highly inflammatory.

MATT: Yeah, yeah. You can see this person here. They have high aluminum salts. They have high barium. They have real high chlorine. We’re looking at cesium 137. That’s a neurotoxin. That’s very harmful.

MARTIN: Yeah. Very, very bad. Okay.

MATT: If you look at fluor, f-l-u-or. That is fluoride. There’s three types of fluoride, to my knowledge, and they were testing for that. No one’s ever tested fluoride, right? So we’re having a lot of anecdotal claims from thousands of people with Master Peace.

MARTIN: Well, you skipped over. You skipped over a couple. Dioxin and ethylmercury. Those are the ones that really, really take you down.

MATT: Yes.

MARTIN: My own life story was taken down by mercury. And dioxin is terrible news. It’s neurotoxin in a terrible way.

MATT: We’re seeing high levels of mercury and lead throughout, people, basically.

MARTIN: Glyphosate, that’s the main ingredient in Roundup. Graphene oxide is what you mentioned a moment ago. Too much iron, too much lead, too much mercury. And look at that. These are perfluoro, octano, sulfon, octane, sulfion.

MATT: PFOS.

MARTIN: PFOS. These are teflon and his cousins.

MATT: Yes. Phosgene was supposed to be banned back in World War I. It’s so bad. Still around, people.

MARTIN: This is essentially the most neurotoxic gas. This phosgene.

MATT: Yes. And do you remember that train wreck in East Palestine?

MARTIN: Yeah.

MATT: And it was vinyl dichloride. Well, when you burn vinyl dichloride, it becomes phosgene.

MARTIN: Yeah. Dioxins and phosgene. Yep.

MATT: And then we can look at plutonium. I mean, that’s a scary word.

MARTIN: This is nuclear bomb explosions. Yeah.

MATT: So.

MARTIN: So that’s interesting that it’s has actually gotten to people where no nuclear weapon was exploded.

MATT: Right. Which proves that we’re in a, you know, whatever’s in the world, it’s in us.

MARTIN: Yeah. I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe Chernobyl released some of that. Maybe.

MATT: Yeah.

MARTIN: I don’t know. But anyway, polyethylene is your basic plastic stuff. Plastic bottles and plastic wrappings, packaging and all of that. PET, those are the hard bottles. And polypropylene, that’s another form of plastic. And titanium dioxide, that’s a filler that’s used in, well, a lot of nutritional supplements will use either silicon dioxide or titanium dioxide as a filler.

MATT: Yeah.

MARTIN: Titanium is not your buddy.

MATT: And all these things are forever chemicals. All of our bodies don’t know how to manage them or get them out. The more that they accumulate in the environment and the more generations we have of this ever accumulating toxins from the industrial revolution, we’re seeing the effects on their health. But what we need to all know is real simple. You were made correct by your creator. Your body is beautiful. It works great if it’s not toxic and polluted. And so what we need to know to do is real simple, get this stuff out faster than it’s coming back in until we can clean up the environment that we live in.

MARTIN: Okay, so let’s just flip through a few of these just to show you what we’re, what you are finding in people. So here is another one. And this one looks more toxic than the one we saw a moment ago. Like, there is hardly anything in green.

MARTIN: Everything’s too high. Everything. This person is probably quite unwell. And at number 4, look at that. We have, this one is less toxic. Many of these are tolerable. But the point is that there should be zero, not some. There should be none.

MATT: Martin, the first time, when we did our initial pilot study a little more than six months ago, and we took the people’s levels of graphene oxide and polyethylene glycol and what not. When we looked at the numbers of the baseline of our current study, the numbers have gone up in less than a year, by about 30%. So, we’re seeing an increase.

MARTIN: Yeah, that could be geographic, but I believe that you’re right in the estimation that time makes things worse because it’s around.

MATT: The initial pilot study was in the same place as half the people of this study. Half the people of this study are from United Kingdom, and the three people in the initial pilot study were from United Kingdom. So the levels are, yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. All right. And look at these awful numbers. I mean, this is just terrible.

MATT: Look at that arsenic. What is that person doing with their health thinking that it’s something else I bet you. Not having an idea they’ve just been poisoned to this extent.

MARTIN: Cesium is high, mercury is high. These other two mercury values very high. Yeah, not good.

MATT: The safe levels of all these things, as we said, is zero. That’s what’s the normal level if we have a normal, healthy environment and body. So, yeah, even numbers that are saying hundreds is causing problems.

MARTIN: So, I’m going to stop the screen share now to get your beautiful face back on the screen. So what we are, what we just saw is the beginning. This is the opening salvo, we are showing you that we, well Matt has and his team assembled people, tested them and found them to be toxic. The next conversation that we’re going to have, how long is it going to be before we see the final results?

MATT: We’re looking at about 60 days from now. And so we have a baseline, which we’ve completed. Then we do a 30 day test, we do a 60 day test, a 90 day test, the hair follicle test, the final one will be at 180 days. But we’ll have all the other results from the urinalysis and blood in about 60 days. Yes.

MARTIN: All right, so in a few months, we’re going to be coming back here with. And here is the. After the treatment or whatever we call it, after you have used this natural, God made, beautiful thing called Master Peace.

MATT: Right. We took two ingredients to help, very natural ingredients that have never shown any type of harmful side effects in people. You’re talking about purified, structured ocean water in the healthiest part of the ocean. So you’re talking about sea plasma and you’re talking about the most highest-sourced natural clinoptilolite zeolite. And so it’s a match made in heaven and we’re seeing very good results, but we want to back those results with real evidence. Right. A lot of people have a lot of fancy, good sounding testimonies.

MARTIN: Yeah. I mean, I have. I have had my own experience with the very clean clinoptilolite that you’re using as your source. That’s what dug me out of my hole, which.

MATT: Yes, that’s right. We have the same. Yes, that’s right. We have the same source on that. Yeah, yeah. It’s very impressive, by the way. I. We vetted it. When you’re talking about millivolts, charges, electromagnetic charges of things that zeolite, it has no comparison to it from all the places that we had vetted. It is superior.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah.

MATT: And it costs about ten times more than everybody else, by the way.

MARTIN: Yes, it does cost more.

MATT: About ten times. And it’s worth it. And we’d spend a hundred times. Because we made this thing to help humanity. Not to have a get rich quick scheme.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, there’s a third ingredient which I really love. That’s the unspoken unknown, ORMUS experience in my body. Of course, you cannot analyze for ORMUS. You only know that you’re getting it because of how it makes you feel. There’s no chemical analysis or spectrographic analysis that I run to say, and I have ORMUS in here.

MATT: Right. But if you’re more connected, you do know if you’re telepathy, which are things that are now provable, if they’re increasing.

MARTIN: Well, my own experience, right, like, I’ve been in this since 1996. I have concentrated it from natural sources. I have picked it up from various places. And I have used it a lot. So I know when I’m getting it. Because I have the experience of it. And it’s in there.

MATT: That’s right.

MARTIN: And the main benefit of this ORMUS material. Is that it connects your higher consciousness to your physical expression. You will express the will of your creator through yourself with greater efficiency.

MATT: I totally agree. If you feel better, think better. And you’re more connected to your spiritual nature, which is a lot more important than your physical, which so many people can’t even get past the physical. Because they feel so bad, their bodies are so contaminated. And to be able to live a healthier life where you think better, you affect everything in your life and your world and your environment in a more positive way. And that is doing your part to make a better world. And Master Peace is doing that for people.

MARTIN: Right. One of the religious books that I’ve read is called a “Course in Miracles.” Not just read, I’ve lived it. And one of the statements in there is this: “Love reveals everything unlike itself.” Watch this. This is a statement that’s so loaded with meaning that it’s made difficult. When you put in something that’s made with love and carries the vibration of creation and love, it will reveal everything that’s unlike that. And I have been watching for the last while the dark force come out, trying to take Master Peace on.

MATT: Yes. From every angle conceivable. And Master Peace is a real game changer for this world. It is showing itself as having all the ability to do what we all were hoping would show up. Something that could work like this. And there’s a lot of places. There’s pharmaceutical industries. There’s alternative holistic practitioners and what not that tell people what protocols that they need to take a vast array of different supplements that they need to buy into and whatnot. But the fact of the matter is, like we were talking about. Our bodies if they’re healthy and they’re not polluted, they heal themselves. Nothing heals you other than your healthy body being able to heal itself. And Master Peace gets the junk out. It’s really simple. And it’s gentle and it’s effective. And you don’t have to go to an office somewhere.

And you don’t have to change your lifestyle habits. You don’t have to get up early and start a new workout. You don’t have to. You might feel better and you actually will probably start doing some of those things, but you don’t have to. And you’re going to be improving your holistic, well, life, which makes. Yeah, so it’s been really neat. We have like over 4000 testimonies, Martin. They’re the most amazing stories. I’m sure you get emails too, where people are like, I can’t believe that I’m experiencing this.

MARTIN: And yeah, I want to say it from this perspective. It’s known as the blocking factors. The blocking factors are that which is preventing the natural homeostatic expression of your body to seek its own perfect balance when you have that stuff on board. And they could be chemical, they could be physical and they could be emotional, these blocking factors will prevent your creative expression or your health expression. The homeostatic balance. And that’s what we’re talking about. So, yes, those thousands of stories that are coming through now are very heartening.

MATT: Yeah. And it’s all about. That’s what I wake up for. That’s why Master Peace was created.

MARTIN: Yeah. I wanted to actually just speak of the names or tell names, which is the following. The biggest pushback that we have seen is from people who are using EDTA as their favorite means of detoxing people. They come from a good place. They want to detox people. They see that people are toxic and they want to help. That part, I grant. What’s different is this, EDTA is a very hungry chemical.

It’s unlike the zeolite, which is an electrophysical reaction where the ion is pulled in and held without any chemical reaction. EDTA is actually a chemical bonding. So it will get into tissues and it will take out not just the big fish like the cadmium and lead and mercury. It will get everything that’s electropositive, as in calcium, magnesium, other minerals, including the ugly ones we don’t want. But it does take a lot of what you would call the desirable, the good things.

MATT: Yes, yes. And EDTA, the reason why it actually came out into the public to be able to be used and by people who now sell it and so forth, was from an EUA, an emergency use authorization, which is the same thing that got the COVID shot. And the reason why they did that is because the trials that they had done for decades, they had to stop many of them due to fatalities, different things like that. So it needs to be monitored. It is playing with fire, but it’s not for me to beat it down. They don’t want Master Peace here.

MARTIN: When used in a very controlled clinical situation, it can easily be used successfully to detoxify a person. No question there. But there is a lot of downside to it.

One is the danger of decalcifying you. When you drop your calcium level too low, you could actually cause serious hypocalcemia. Well, including your heart stopping, because your heart requires a balance of calcium and magnesium to function. So if you get yourself out of balance too far, it’ll stop working. So that’s why Matt mentioned a couple of the studies actually were stopped because too many subjects were seriously damaged, including death.

MATT: We’re looking at something that is being promoted at places. EDTA as a natural product, which is exactly opposite of the truth. It’s a pharmaceutical, and it’s made from sodium cyanide and formaldehyde. The reason why we’re seeing the pushback with these practitioners that use EDTA in their protocol, is because when people started becoming aware that health had a lot to do with detoxing, then people started looking at these new chelators and things like that. EDTA got real big in 2020, 2021. Well, people call these practitioners, and the practitioner says, you got to come in here, we got to look at your blood. We got to see where you’re at.

MATT: And so when the people have to make that appointment, look at their blood, no matter who they are, they always come back with the same personalized protocol, which involves a shot of EDTA intravenous and other things. And it costs anywhere from $1,200 to $1,800 a session. So if people have option A of going there every three weeks, going through a day-long thing at an office, or they can just go buy a $55 bottle of Master Peace. And Master Peace actually has the proof behind it where it can say, hey, it’s going to get your broad spectrum of levels down, which is what you need to do. You don’t want to just get out the graphene oxide, just the mercury. You got to get all these plastics and everything else out. And so Master Peace was made for humanity. That’s why it’s affordable. And the people, yeah, it’s causing a big rift out there, Martin. We’re seeing a big rift.

MARTIN: Well, when you threaten the method and livelihood and whatever, I mean, seriously, compare something that will cost you twelve trips to somebody’s office, several hours sitting with an IV drip in your arm, versus having a bottle on your shelf at a fraction of the cost. And one other thing is a lot of these practitioners like to test people because they want to prove to you that you have a problem. And I keep telling people, listen, it’s going to cost you $300 to do a start test on just the major items. Then you’re going to spend the x dollars on the sessions, probably $2,000. And then you’re going to do another $300 test to prove that you have now cleaned out. So how about this? You just give me $300, get six bottles of Master Peace and just take them in the convenience of your home.

MATT: And it’ll last you about a year. Yeah, exactly right. And so they don’t want that option out there, you know.

MARTIN: Well, not everybody has the time and the money to do it. Let’s call it industrial way. Okay, so that’s story number one.

MATT: Yeah, we also got the FDA, you know, they. They decided to call our purified marine plasma, which actually was from the part of the ocean where the sea turtles migrate every year, the ones that live to 300. And so they decided to call it a drug. Not sure how ocean water gets classified that way, but we just got that in.

MARTIN: Listen, Matt, stop the presses. I can prove that an apple is a drug because an apple a day will keep a doctor away. It’s loaded with malic acid, and malic acid can be used to dissolve gallstones. Therefore I can actually do that. There was another story with tart cherry juice. I don’t know if you remember that, but tart cherry juice is detoxifying the kidneys. And so people have been drinking tart cherry juice for the longest time. And then one manufacturer decided to actually put it on the label, tart cherry juice. Detox your kidneys. FDA was all over them. You cannot sell cherries as a health product.

MATT: And then they had Health Canada shut us down. And they said that is because it was a natural product.

MARTIN: Well, this is a logistical problem, Matt. This is probably a lack of understanding of how the systems are different. In Canada, they have a permissive or permission based system where before you sell the first thing, you have to come to them with your recipe and your studies and say, I will sell this product with the following claim. And you will when you have your studies in your hand, you’ll be able to go to Health Canada and say, I want to put on my Canadian label, “removes forever chemicals”, removes toxic metals, and they will approve you with that. Once you have the studies, they cannot deny you what you can prove.

MATT: Yeah, we had our lawyer team on it, and when it came down, because we do have our initial pilot study, and we actually weren’t making claims that they said. They said it was because it’s sold as a natural product. They really are kind of coming down on dietary supplements. But you’re right, we didn’t try to jump through their hoops. We should have.

MARTIN: You should have.

MATT: Yeah, yeah

MARTIN: No, this is. Listen, I sell a product that’s called Miracle II Soap and I cannot sell it in Canada for resale. I cannot import it to Canada for resale because a claim was made that this particular soap cleared somebody’s skin cancer. It did, right? Proveably, it did. But Health Canada said, you’re selling a health product. And the manufacturer said, no, I’m selling soap. And Health Canada said, the claim was made. Prove it to me. And the manufacturer said, I don’t have the study and I will not make the study. And Health Canada said, well, you cannot sell it here because it’s a natural product. And so it’s that sort of standoff. Two shotguns. Right? You’re wrong. No, you’re wrong. No, you’re wrong. And that’s the end of that. So the manufacturer says, Canada, go f yourself.

MATT: We’re absolutely doing our best on all fronts. I think the reason why we are doing so wonderful is because every single person that was involved, literally every single person, they were not getting involved in this because of the money or anything. It was the intention. They knew that this was going to improve people’s lives, and they believed if it did the way that it was created, that we had something special. And we have the greatest people around keeping this thing up. We have cyber attacks from supercomputers that are a half a billion of them a night, half the time, and we have my tech guy, who is the most incredible guy that has protected us there. We would have been in terrible shape if we were a normal company that didn’t have someone in those shoes right there. Master Peace has to get out to the world, Martin, because everybody needs Master Peace. So whatever happens, I’m already in this thing to the very end because we’re doing it for humanity.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, I have my own personal story from three angles. Angle one was the mercury toxicity that happened to me back in 1977. I have the ORMUS story that happened to me in 1996. And I have the plasma story, which happened to me in 2004. So, meaning this, the ingredients that are in here are whole, holistic, natural, helpful. And what to say about it, other than it’s the antidote to the mess that the industrial age is bringing upon us.

MATT: Yes, it is. It is the solution to the pollution. It really is. So this same formula, if we sprayed it in the skies, if we used it for our farming, it would be doing the same exact thing that it’s doing inside of the human body. And it’s pretty amazing, really. We took the very finest things of nature. And doesn’t nature always have the solution right? We just have to find it.

MARTIN: Just have to find it. Thank you for finding it, Matt.

MATT: I was just the one that kind of got the message. I was just meditating in my thing. I had a property where I had $12 a year in property taxes. So I had all this time on my hand, and I got real big into health and healing stuff. Lo and behold, I started having kids again. Most of my kids are very old, about 30. And I thought, I can’t protect this little girl from this world that’s going to heck in a handbasket. And I thought someone needed to kind of create it. And I had a really good partner of mine that would do an infinite amount of research, and away we went. And all of a sudden, the greatest people in the world started like, yeah, they bought into it. And all of a sudden, we had a team, and we were off and running, and it came together.

MARTIN: Hallelujah.

MATT: Yeah. This is now, Martin. There’s countless of us. They’re flocking and migrating. We just had the UK Health Alliance yesterday who has now said that Master Peace is the one that they are running with for their product for detoxing people. And in Master Peace, it shows off how our bodies are healing machines if they’re cleaned up properly. And so it doesn’t do anything other than just detox the body, reduces the levels of these harmful things so our bodies can be their magical selves, you know?

MARTIN: I don’t think I can add to that. All right, let’s. Let’s put a pin in it. Matt, I’m looking forward to talking to you in 60 days when the results come in. And we’ll, we’ll show it side by side. Well, we’ve already seen the first three, right? We already know it worked on three. We’re now expanding it to 24, which by the way, qualifies as a real clinical study.

MATT: Yeah, Yes.

MARTIN: Don’t think that the likes of Pfizer and other large companies use greater numbers. They don’t.

MATT: No, no. And we’re, you know, we’re going to be able to show the solution, the affordable solution, so that people can be able to. We’re seeing how toxic levels are in soil samples and people samples now. And so we have an easy to take, simple to take, doesn’t taste bad. You don’t have to win the lottery to be able to afford it. And it’s gentle but very effective.

MATT: And it’s made for all of us.

MARTIN: Matt Hazen, I thank you. This is Martin Pytela for life-enthusiast.com by phone at (866)543-3388. Thanks.

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Podcast 486: Fitness with Brian Keane

We are thrilled to welcome Brian Keane on the podcast today. Brian’s remarkable journey began with serious health challenges and the use of alcohol as a coping mechanism, evolving into his role as a renowned global fitness coach and extreme endurance athlete. He opens up about how he conquered chronic headaches, gut issues, and emotional struggles by taking charge of his nutrition and fitness. Brian’s story underscores the importance of a holistic approach to health, one that integrates physical fitness with mental resilience, nutrition, and self-awareness. Today, he is dedicated to empowering others to enhance their energy, vitality, and body composition through online personalized fitness and nutrition coaching. Dive into more details on his website: https://briankeanefitness.com/

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MARTIN: Hello, everyone. Martin Pytela here for Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today, I have Brian Keane. The business is known as Brian Keane Fitness. And just look at him. He looks fit, Brian.

BRIAN: Martin, absolute pleasure to be on, and I’m really looking forward to chatting.

MARTIN: Yeah, Brian, I want to try and pick you as one of the representatives of healthy maleness, the boy who grows to be a healthy man and expresses himself joyfully and is able to know why that is, how that is, and how to share it with others. What do you think?

BRIAN: Yeah, let’s do it. Let’s dive into the story and try and serve in any way we can.

MARTIN: Well, how did we get here?

BRIAN: It’s interesting because we were speaking on my podcast when you were on, about your mercury fillings when you were 25 and how that kind of set you up on your journey. And mine is slightly different, but not completely away from what happened with you. I had a lot of health issues when I was a teenager, so I missed nearly a year of school because I would get these chronic headaches. And it was something that I went to every Western doctor. I was getting MRIs on the monthly, I was getting blood tests done regularly, and nobody could figure out what was going on. I just had these chronic headaches and migraines. And I ended up going to university the next year and started drinking a lot of alcohol, which, very weirdly, got rid of my headaches and became a coping mechanism. I know, a temporary solution, a band-aid on a bloody wound, but a temporary solution.

BRIAN: And over the next few years, I used alcohol as a coping mechanism. And I moved to the states and I was working with Berkeley University. I was teaching soccer with Berkeley University. I have a sports background, and I ended up being hospitalized out there. I started spitting up blood and had to be hospitalized. And at the time, they said it was a bleeding ulcer or an ulcer that was bleeding, and that I had gallbladder problems. And they gave me a mouthful and handful of medications and were like: “Alright on your way, away you go.” And of course as you know, based on everything you’ve done and helped with people over the years that didn’t support me. It stopped the bleeding, but all the health underlying issues were there.

BRIAN: So I decided I was going to take my nutrition and my health into my own control. And at the age of 22, I started to look into nutrition more. I started to eliminate a lot of the crappy foods that weren’t actually helping me, that I thought were, quote unquote, healthy. I was eating a lot of protein bars, a lot of packaged chicken, just no fruits, no vegetables, just bro food, you know, thinking that this is what you should eat. I’m a man and I’m an athlete, and this is what I should eat. And it was ruining my gut microbiome, it was ruining my health. And over the space of about 18 months, I got rid of all my headaches. I fixed most of the issues with my gut, and for the first time, I was feeling energized.

BRIAN: I was walking around quite lean, quite muscular. I had a six pack and abs, and I felt tremendous. And then two years later, I went down the road of becoming a qualified personal trainer, a certified nutritionist. And that led me into this path the last decade, eleven years now, helping people with their nutrition, with their fitness, with their training, so that they could feel more energy, more vitality, and just get to whatever body composition or athletic performance they want.

MARTIN: Right. And so how do you do that? Do you do that over the Internet, remotely all over the world?

BRIAN: Yeah. So, similar to you. I think it was 2009, I think you moved online, if I remember correctly, 2016, I was later, I started in a gym and was working one to one as a personal trainer and a nutritionist with people. And then in 2016, the year after my daughter was born, I moved everything online, and we’ve been online since. So doing online programs, online coaching with people, we’ve got small group coaching that are scaled, and then we’ve got one to one coaching, which is specific to people, where I do customizable, bespoke and personalized programs based on their history.

MARTIN: All right, and so do you have quite a varied range of clients, or who are the people who benefit the most?

BRIAN: It’s mostly body composition with secondary goals. So people looking to lose weight, lose body fat, tone up, build muscle, and then they have secondary issues. They want to improve their sex drive, they want to improve their sleep, they want more vitality, more energy. And it’s weird that that’s the second when you would think that should be the pyramid and that should be the top of the pyramid, or the thing that you should focus on most. But again, sex sells. People want to look their best, look good, feel good. There’s definitely an element of that. But I take a very holistic approach. I look at people’s nutrition, their training, their sleep, their hormonal balance, their supplementation, very similar to you, that functional side of look. What do you need to look at? And taking the holistic approach, and it’s something that I do I can’t believe that I get paid to do what I do like, it’s an incredible life I get to live, and I’m very grateful for it.

MARTIN: So do I need to have a gym in my house or what? What do I need to be on your fitness program?

BRIAN: It depends. So I have. I always tell people there’s three options. So our scale program, where we take groups of people, has three options. It has either body weight at home, so all you need is your body weight. We have dumbbell workouts for home, so all you need is a set of dumbbells or a gym based program. And I think some people will work with me, and I have some who never go to the gym. They’ll never and have never stepped foot in the gym.

BRIAN: They have step counts, and they have some body weight workouts they do at home. And then there’s others who love the gym. It’s their hour away, or it sets up their morning, or it’s their disconnect from work in the evening. And we have a gym program for them. So fitness is all about finding what you enjoy, what you can stick to, based on a specific goal. And then I just make it adjust and work to whatever circumstance suits the individual.

MARTIN: Straightforward, right?

BRIAN: Yeah. Like, pull ups and push ups are very underrated, Martin. They’re very underrated. Squats, push ups, and pull ups of, we overcomplicate fitness. But for a lot of men, particularly, if you’re able to perform those movement patterns with good form and execution, you’re going to get good results.

MARTIN: You know, it’s really interesting. I mean, I’m now 71, so a lot of things are harder to come by than when I was 40 or something like that. But anyway, I decided, well, I’m going to do push ups. And I started. And holy mother, I didn’t realize just how far I let myself go. I had to use stairs to do the support, to do an incline rather than straight. So first I got three stairs, two stairs, one stair, flat. Right? And then I can now do 20 push ups straight up without really losing it.

BRIAN: And that’s it. How amazing is that, Martin? For confidence even, like and knowing that this is what you can physically do with your body and giving that confidence back to yourself from the starting progression to where you are now, that’s incredible.

MARTIN: Right. I was, as you were talking, I was thinking, you know, libido, or sexual expression, really is the consequence of having life force. And life force is the consequence of having the mitochondria working, putting out ATP. It all follows. If you screw up your food, then you’re going to screw up your mitochondria. And if you don’t use it, you lose it. This is the amazing thing that it doesn’t take much for a person to actually just start losing the capacity.

BRIAN: 100%. And it’s so, it’s such an easy habit to become negative over time when you just let your exercise slip or you let your nutrition slip or you let your sleep slip, and then you start to have these other negative issues. Libido decreases, energy decreases, you feel that general life force decreasing. And again, I always tell people, think of consistency, not intensity, when it comes to your exercise program and your nutrition. Like, what can you stick to? Because it’s considerably harder to get up and go for a run than to just keep running when you’re running. And it’s the same with any nutritional protocol, exercise plan, just keep the momentum with it.

MARTINl Yeah. Classic example of inertia. Object in motion stays in motion.

BRIAN: Yeah, Yeah.

MARTIN: It’s great, actually. I think the value of coaching here is really right in front of us here. Having a coach that serves as a reminder is just great. People who do engage in a relationship, whether it’s a group or one on one, when you’re accountable to someone, it somehow improves the odds of your outcomes, right?

BRIAN: Oh, 100%. I couldn’t be a bigger believer in it because there’s self awareness that needs to be brought here too, because I used to do bodybuilding shows, I used to do ultra marathons, I used to do endurance events, and I never needed a coach or a trainer for those because I’m quite self driven with exercise, but I have to pay my yoga instructor every single week or I will not do yoga, I will not go and do it, I won’t go to a class, I won’t do an online course, I have to show up at our house and do it, because I need that accountability from someone. So depending on different areas of your life, you might need it with nutrition, you might need it with fitness, you might need it with business, but doing that self audit to go: “Right, I’m actually not able to stick with this by myself. I think I need a coach, I need the accountability. And asking that question can be really useful.”

MARTIN: Well, how do we get people into getting the results that they deserve? What do we do here?

BRIAN: It’s interesting because the results you deserve are normally down to the work you put in. But I also tell people that if you get in your car and start randomly driving, you’re going to end up somewhere just, it might not be where you want. So you need to know first and foremost, what’s the goal you’re trying to hit. Are you trying to lose weight? Are you trying to build muscle? Are you trying to get stronger? Are you trying to increase your libido? Are you trying to increase your energy? And then if you need education around that, that’s where a coach can help. But I don’t think everyone needs a coach. Some people just need the education. You put out tremendous content on the podcast and online where people can listen to the episode on arthritis. I’ve got one of my clients who struggles with that, and I sent her the episode and talking her through it. Look, this is what you need, education.

BRIAN: You don’t need the accountability. You actually need somebody to tell you what you need to do with this and to get the results you want. It’s a combination of executing on a plan, but more importantly, executing on a plan that’s directionally correct. Meaning that it’s actually working towards the marathon or it’s working towards building muscle, or it’s working towards the competition you want to do. Because you can go into the gym, and we’ve all seen the person in the gym at some stage in our life who’s doing the same workout program they were five years ago. They come in and do 40 minutes on the cross trainer. They lift a couple of dumbbell curls, they do a couple of sit ups, and then they leave and they look exactly the same and feel exactly the same as they did six years ago. Now, if they’re coming in for a social element and other reasons, that’s totally different. But if you physically want your body to respond in a positive way, then you need to do a correct program and you need to execute on it, because then that’s the way you get the results you want.

BRIAN: Charlie Munger has a great line. The late Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett’s business partner. To get what you want, you have to deserve what you want. And I think physical fitness is a great representation of that.

MARTIN: Interesting. So are you saying that people should be changing up their programs, that they should not be just doing the same thing over and over

BRIAN: If they want to progress, yeah. Like with progression in fitness, normally every six to twelve weeks, you’d want to be switching up a fitness program. Every six weeks if you get bored, more so. Because what happens is similar to inertia, people get bored, they stop going, they fall out of the routine just because they didn’t enjoy it anymore. So every six weeks is normally when I would switch up a program. But every twelve weeks is when you physiologically need to switch up a program because your body would become accustomed. So switching up doesn’t mean you’re doing an entire new program. You might be just changing up the angle of a lift.

BRIAN: You might be progressively overloading, which just means you’re increasing the weight so that you’re failing in a rep range. So let’s say you’re squatting 20 pounds. After six weeks, you’re squatting 25 pounds. After twelve weeks, you’re squatting 30 pounds. That’s progressive overload. So you’re changing something so that it’s not the exact same workout, same weights all the time, because that’s how you progress with any physical exercise program.

MARTIN: I’m trying to think of some ways how I can get you to tell our audience how they can find you.

BRIAN: I try and be on everything, Martin. I literally try and communicate in every style that’s possible. I’ve written four books, three of them that have done very well. They were bestsellers. I have a podcast, which you were on, which I’m not sure which one comes out first, but I highly recommend people check that out. We had a great conversation. I’m on all the social media channels, Instagram. I put out loads of free workouts, loads of free exercise programs that people can follow, because I’m all about the business side of service.

BRIAN: So if people need a specific program designed, they’re going to come and work with me. But if you just need a generic program for losing weight, for building body fat, here’s a set of structures that you can apply, there on the website briankeanefitness.com. And again, it’s just putting out that content, trying to help in any way that we can.

MARTIN: All right, talk to me about your life as an extreme athlete. Like ultra marathon. That just makes my eyes roll to the back of my head.

BRIAN: It’s interesting because for those who can’t see me, I’m not built like an ultra marathon runner at all. I’m five foot eight, which is about 173 cm. I’m 83 kilos. So I think that’s about 183 pounds or so. I’m built like a little hobbit. I’m not built like an ultra marathon runner. I’m built like something out of the Lord of the Rings. I’m short, I’m stocky, I’m muscular, but I used to be a bodybuilder, so I competed in bodybuilding competitions, and I was a professional fitness model for years.

BRIAN: So I was on those the magazines back in the day, on the covers, in the books, etcetera. So I did that for several years. And when I left that after my daughter was born in 2015, I was looking for a new challenge, and I signed up for my first ultramarathon, which was my first ever marathon at the time, which was called Marathon des Sables. So it’s Czechoslovakia you said you were growing up. Samarita Des Saab is in Morocco. It’s quite a well known one in Europe, it’s six back to back marathons through the Sahara desert in Morocco. And in 2018, I finished that. It was, at the time, the most difficult thing I’ve ever done in my life. And then,

MARTIN: Well, listen. Do you remember the original story of the marathon run?

BRIAN: Yeah.

MARTIN: The soldier ran from the, I don’t know, battlefield to wherever, to the town to give the warning and collapsed dead. Right?

BRIAN: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: And you did six of them in what span of time?

BRIAN: Six marathons in six days. Like an interesting story because I had to keep this post away from my mother. I remember when I posted it because Irish families, I’m really close with my mum when I went to Google. Marathon to Saab distance. You put in marathon De saab D and death comes up before distance. And it shows one of the stories of the guy that died, but also one of the runners who did the race several years ago who got lost in a sandstorm and had to cut open and drink bat’s blood to survive. He crossed over the border into another country, got picked up by the army and was. And was able to get back home.

BRIAN: And those horror stories before I went, because I had never done an ultra marathon, Martin. I was an athlete, and then I did bodybuilding and the gym is really cozy in comparison to the Sahara, so I landed out there. It was a very difficult thing. Very glad I did it. I came back from it and thought, right, I’ve done the heat. I then in 2019, signed up to run through the Arctic. So in 2019, I ran 230 km through the Arctic Circle line in the north of Sweden. And that was like running on the moon.

BRIAN: That was insane. And then I ran 100 miler in Nevada in 2020. The 1st longest run I had done in one go, it was 26 and a half hours straight through, no sleep. And then Covid came and then off the back of COVID I’ve been doing more martial arts and Muay Thai and things like that now. So changing it up slightly as we move through this world in a little bit more peaceful way than having to do the six-hour training sessions on a Monday to train for an ultra marathon.

MARTIN: Yeah. My lord. Okay, well, that suggests that. I don’t know how to put it. Well, you’re certainly resilient.

BRIAN: Learned resilience, I would say. I would say that’s an acquired skill, for sure.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay, well, I guess that really gives you the chops to explain to anyone who’s got endurance problems how to overcome that, right?

BRIAN: Yeah, for sure. Like, endurance is such a relative term, and there’s a spectrum because endurance for one person is an ability to withstand an hour gym session or a crossfit class or the circuit training or spin session in the gym. Whereas for somebody else, an ability to run 100 miles and then everything in between, I think your starting point is important. So identifying where you are and what you need, because if you are looking to build up your endurance and just feel physically better throughout the day so that your energy and you’re not, like, getting that midday slump. I know you talk about this like that’s not a natural state. People shouldn’t be getting a slump at 03:00 p.m in the day. That’s a sign that they’re not eating for their body type and, you know, they need to go and take the quiz that you have on the website and see what foods they need and fueling themselves the correct way.

BRIAN: And physical fitness is very similar in terms of endurance, that your starting point matters, that there’s going to be these little targets on the way, but you need to identify, well, what am I looking to achieve? Do I just want to move through the day without feeling tired? Because that’s one goal. Do you want to be able to run a marathon and recover? That’s another goal. Do you want to be able to run 100 mile marathon and be able to do it again a week later, which is a very extreme goal. And we’re really towards the high end of physical recovery from a human perspective in terms of what we can biologically do. But people do it, and it’s possible. So identifying the goal in the front is important. I think that’s for any goal, but particularly for insurance.

MARTIN: Right? I don’t know. What else do you want to share that I don’t know about you?

BRIAN: Geez, I don’t know. Martin, I think we had such a good chat on my podcast, talking all things nutrition. So again, my story from fitness model to bodybuilding, to ultra marathons, to doing what I’m doing now. Like, as I said, I’m one of those very lucky people and very grateful people that I literally do something I would do for free and get paid very well for it. I’m in a very, very positive and grateful position first, and I like the physical challenge. Like, as I said, it was a different season in my life, different phase of my life. I wouldn’t be very mentally resilient by nature. That’s not part of my makeup.

BRIAN: I had to build that over time.

MARTIN: Really?

BRIAN: Yeah, definitely not. I was a primary school teacher before I qualified as a trainer and a coach. And during that time in my life, I was very unhappy. I didn’t like what I was doing, I didn’t like my work. I didn’t feel very highly energized, which is so interesting because we think nutrition and sleep, which are so important, are everything. But my nutrition and sleep were pretty good during that time in my life, and I still felt low energy because I was misaligned with what I should be doing in my work and in my career. And it’s amazing how it’s all holistic and all like a spider web that’s interconnected, that you need everything lined up, your people that are around you having good, energizing people, not having emotional vampires, people sucking the energy from you doing a job or at least a career that you feel some sort of calling for, a passion for.

BRIAN: And I know everyone’s circumstance is different. Not everyone can do that. They’ve got a mortgage and kids. But doing something that makes you jump out of bed every day, that might be in your personal life, but ideally something in your career, and then your health, your nutrition, your fitness, your sleep, your hormonal system, your balance, all of that. Like, I think it’s really important to connect all of those things. And what I’ve been trying to do over the last decade with content online and books and podcasts is showing people that there’s so many different ways to excel in your life and feel energized and feel vitality and feel passion. That it’s just a case of surrounding yourself with the right people, consuming the right information. Cause like, you’re literally being programmed with what you listen to.

BRIAN: So make sure that it’s good things. Don’t plant apple seeds and expect orange trees to grow is what I say in podcasts and books. You need to be consuming good information that helps you. And I’ve spent the last decade trying to build up some of that mental resilience myself because it’s not my natural state, and then just sharing how I did it, why I did it, and trying to use my story to connect with people so they can do the same if they choose to.

MARTIN: Right. Well put. You know, I can’t quite see here how having you for a coach would be very beneficial because you have so much experience in overcoming being in an unhappy place and finding your path to doing what you should be doing, what you love doing, and so on. And so anyone who’s in that place wondering, what should I be? How should I get there? What should I do? Speaking to you on a daily basis, on a weekly basis, or whatever that would be, is probably a very valuable tool.

BRIAN: Yeah, it definitely can be. You know this more than anyone, Martin, because you’re a perpetual self-learner and always educating yourself. And even before we were talking on our podcast, you were like, all right, let’s learn. I want to learn something. Tell me about things. And it’s the same here in the interview. And I think when you’re consuming the right people, whether that’s their content online or working with them directly, that can really shorten your learning curve, because smart people learn from their mistakes. The really sharp one learns from the mistakes of others, and you’re just using the tools and potential, avoiding potential pitfalls on a health journey, on a fitness journey, on a business journey, and just seeing who is around you online, offline that can potentially help get you there.

BRIAN: And I think you do this beautifully. It’s my mission as well, on my side. And again, it’s just constantly giving back. Now, when you’re in that place of gratitude because you’re so happy, you get to do what you do, which wasn’t always the case. I have the contrast point for that. It’s so much easier to give back.

MARTIN: Yeah, I acknowledge that. I have zero problem with motivation because I get out of bed, I roll out of bed wanting to do what I do. There’s no barrier. You illustrated it with your being in a job that just wasn’t aligned with what was in your heart. And, yeah, helping people find that place. I know so many people who just don’t know what they should be doing.

BRIAN: Yeah.

MARTIN: They tell me “I just don’t know”.

BRIAN: Yeah. What’s your answer for that? What do you tell them, out of curiosity? I’m curious if it’s the same as mine or if it’s similar for somebody that says, okay, Martin, I don’t know what I should be doing. What’s the advice you generally offer them, or you get them to look at?

MARTIN: Well, the literature and the experiences that you need to come up with serving others. Just try and find a place where you do something for others, because in giving to others, you will find that you’ll receive it yourself.

BRIAN: Yeah. Yeah. Beautifully said. Agreed. Yeah. I love that.

MARTIN: Love yourself. Don’t try to get the universe to give to you. And this reminded me of Jack Kennedy back in 1960. Something saying, do not ask what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for the country. Which, that was another metaphor, but essentially it is the same thing where you say, okay, I’m going to go and help somebody with something, whatever that is, and you’ll find whether that is something that you enjoy doing. And if not, pick up another one, try something else. Right.

BRIAN: Follow your curiosity. I think one of the most underutilized pieces of advice is follow your curiosity. Because when I’m working with businesses, and I’ve got two businesses, we have a Fitness LLC, which is a company, and then I have a business consulting, which is separate for health and wellness and fitness businesses. And one of the things I do with people I’m working with in that business is ask the question, what do you find easy that other people find difficult? And what are you curious about that other people aren’t curious about? You answer those two questions. They’re a very good starting point to finding your potential.

MARTIN: Yeah. That I love about you, that you actually are helping others get better at business, which, that’s awesome, because having those two perspectives is so helpful. I mean, in business, we always ask, what is the cause of this? In the medical world, people are blocked from that. They just are told, well, you have a symptom, I have a pill. Let’s take it away. That never solves anything. It’s like painting over the rust spots. Your car will rust out before you know it.

BRIAN: You start solving symptoms in business, you go out of business pretty quickly. You need to get to the root cause. And I think your physical health and your functional side as you mentioned are exactly the same.

MARTIN: Indeed. I’m out of questions.

BRIAN: That’s a good sign. Martin. I have hopefully provided a lot of value to people. Again, I think you’re doing tremendous work on your side. We had a great chat on my podcast, and I think covering the nutrition side from yours, covering the fitness side from mine, get people to look at the things that are important in their life, that it’s not a single thing. Fixing your nutrition will fix your nutritional issues. It won’t fix all your life problems, but it’ll go a long way towards helping it. You might have a problem in a relationship. You might have a problem with your work life. You might have a problem somewhere else. So don’t just look at things in isolation, because it’s all interconnected. And I think that is an important takeaway for people so that they don’t, to the man with the hammer, the whole world looks like a nail. It’s important that you know that there’s different things that fix different problems, and that’s what you’re looking to do here.

MARTIN: Yeah. Awesome. You know, just as you’re speaking, I’m reminded of the fact that we teach this, right. We have. I have these four points which I tell people it’s toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation, and trauma. Well, the big one is stagnation. I’m reminded of the fact, I read this. If exercise were a drug, it would be the most prescribed item ever.

BRIAN: Yeah, yeah. It’s so true. If you could wrap up the benefits in a pill, we’d be multi billionaires.

MARTIN: Right. But it’s not like that, right? All of these points that we’re discussing, they all are attained only by when we apply ourselves to it. It’s the dynamic interchange with the universe. You cannot be the recipient. You cannot play the victim. You have to take agency of your life. You have to become an active participant. Otherwise, it’s a fail.

BRIAN: 100%. Well, what I love about exercise, too, to build on that point, Martin, is it’s a representation for how you approach things in life. Because you can’t go into a gym and just start squatting 200 pounds. You have to start with the bar, and you have to gradually build up your strength over time. How you approach everything in your life is the same. Very few things that are worth having come to you easily, very few things that are worth having come to you in a very quick way. It’s normally built over periods of weeks, months, years, decades, and fitness is exactly the same. And I think when you can take the skill set of how you approach workouts, who do I need to help me? What’s the plan I need to follow? Where’s my starting point? What’s my end goal? What’s the milestone and mini target I’m hitting between now and that end goal so that I can stay motivated and on track. All those tools help you in other aspects of your life, with relationships, with your business, with your career.

BRIAN: And you’re just taking this domain dependent knowledge from fitness and applying it elsewhere. I think it’s a beautiful representation for how to approach life. It’s one of the reasons I love physical fitness so much. Obviously, it’s nice to look good with the shirt off and feel good and all of that, but really, it’s the skill set and the tools that you acquire that benefit your life in a positive way. That is where the real one is.

MARTIN: Yeah. And I’m being reminded of, we need to be humble enough to admit that we’re not perfect and that we could get some help.

BRIAN: Yeah. 100%. Again, we’re all, I think when you approach things from a place of service, you know that you can serve people in some areas and you need help from service from people and others. And I think that’s what makes it such a beautiful thing. Identify where you need help, who can serve you, identify who needs help and who you can serve, and just merge those two things together.

MARTIN: Yeah. I’m so glad to have met you. Really. It’s encouraging.

BRIAN: Me, too. I’m so glad we got to do this so quickly as well because we got to do two back to back podcasts, Martin. And I’m glad we will stay connected. As I said, I love what you’re doing, the work you’re doing, and I’m so glad we got to bounce on both podcasts.

MARTIN: All right, so this is Brian Keane K-e-a-n-e. And it’s Briankeanefitness.com. Go take a look. It’s very encouraging. Your life will be better for having met Brian Keane.

BRIAN: Martin, thank you so much again.

MARTIN: Yeah, this is Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com, by phone at 866 543 3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 485: Decluttering Trauma

In this episode, Martin Pytela interviews Valerie Huard, a trauma and decluttering coach. Valerie’s research shows that there is a profound connection between trauma and material clutter. Valerie reveals how trauma can impair the brain’s ability to maintain order, leading to clutter that exacerbates stress and isolation. She shares her personal journey of healing from childhood trauma and outlines her holistic approach to decluttering, which addresses both the physical and emotional aspects of clutter. By helping clients process their emotions and foster a supportive community, Valerie guides them toward lasting transformation in their living spaces and overall well-being. If you would like to know more about how Valerie can help you, please visit her website:
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MARTIN: Hello, this is Martin Pytela. Life Enthusiast health coach for Life Enthusiast podcast. With me today, Valerie Huard.

VALERIE: Hi, Martin.

MARTIN: Hello. Pleasure. Let me try and introduce you to our audience. Valerie, like myself, lives in Canada and like myself, has a pretty deep experience with trauma, both in her own life and helping others. And I think the aspect that we’re going to explore today is valuable. Many of our audience are going through what Valerie is helping people to deal with. Let’s dive in. Welcome.

VALERIE: Awesome. Thank you. I’m really glad to be here.

MARTIN: Yeah. Valerie, I think it would be very helpful to just hear what it is that you focus on in helping people to solve in their life.

VALERIE: Yeah, I help people that have faced, unfortunately, some traumatic event. And because of that, eventually in life they started accumulating clutter. And now they are in a position where not only the trauma is blocking them, but the clutter is isolating them from inviting people at home or from doing some activity or finding some of their objects.

MARTIN: Right? So sometimes it happens because you’re just too tired and too sick to keep up, right? And it just starts accumulating all around you.

VALERIE: Yes. But it’s also because when someone had a trauma, the executive functions are affected after that. Yeah. Basically what happened is due to the fight or flight response. I think your audience already knows about the fight or flight response. After a trauma, the body needs to produce more cortisol. That’s the stress hormone in the brain. And for that the stress hormone raise, raise, raise and then slow down the frontal lobe. There is the executive function. This is where they are. So we’re talking about planning, organizing, sorting, working memory and focus. So all things that are really important to maintain a home tidy.

MARTIN: Yeah I can relate to it in a minor way. I call it my travel brain, where on the travel day I can no longer think clearly. I have to be working off of a list because the executive function, as you correctly name it, is just disconnected. I do not remember how to do things. I have to return to the list and work from that, and I have to have prepared the list on a calm day, 1 or 2 days earlier. That’s what you’re talking about, right?

VALERIE: Oh, totally. That’s what I’m talking about. It’s a really good example of that.

MARTIN: But of course, when it happens every day, then what? Right.

VALERIE: It starts to become a little bit more problematic. Let’s say somebody is working, or doing some volunteering or has some activities out of the house. The thing is, they gave 100% of themselves because most of the clients that I know, they are kind of a little bit perfectionist. You know, they really like to try and they are thriving during the day during their occupation. But when they arrive at home, it’s kind of if they almost shut down because they burn so much energy during the day to keep the executive function up to speed, that now the executive functions are kind of on a break. They have no more energy fueling them. And it’s kind of, oh, now I will pile my things instead of putting them at the right place. And it’s not because the person is lazy, it’s really because it becomes really difficult for the brain to identify where is the right place or where should I start, or how should I approach that pile?

MARTIN: Yeah, it becomes difficult to even start, right?

VALERIE: Oh, yes. A lot of people are overwhelmed at the beginning.

MARTIN: Right.

MARTIN: Well, so let’s just come back to the beginning. How did you get into learning all of this? And what I mean, you have plenty of credentials behind you and I think people would appreciate knowing just how much wisdom is packed in your life, right?

VALERIE: Yeah. Thank you. So my journey started, unfortunately, with a traumatic childhood where I got abused and growing up, I dissociated and then I became in the world of I need to perform. And then I got to study occupational therapy. That was awesome for me. I learned so much about the brain and about all of that, you know?

MARTIN: Yeah.

VALERIE: And then my trauma said, you know what? I want some attention. Here I am. Hello. And I had to take care of myself. I needed to kind of stop a little bit and really start healing myself. So I went on that journey of healing where it was difficult but wonderful at the same time, if I can say. Because I went on tons of retreats, some programs, lots of places to learn, I spent over $100,000 just to heal myself, you know? And it was a long journey because I had nobody that was able to tell me, you know what? Go that way. Because even the doctor that I met. They told me, you know what? We don’t know what to do.

MARTIN: Yeah. They don’t.

VALERIE: You will just get worse with time. And I say, oh no, I don’t want that. And it was kind of feeling unworthy almost, or feeling that the medical system was giving up on me. It was really hard at first, you know. But from there I adopted kids that have special needs. And my life continued. And one day we arrived to move and the movers company came. And the guy, I will always remember his face and his blue uniform. He looked around the house and told me, ma’am, we cannot move you. I’m calling a moving company and they’re telling me they cannot move me? What’s going on? And then he continues his sentence by, you need to let go of at least half your belongings. Half my belongings? Wow! I was wanting to cry. I was shocked. Letting go of half my belongings. You know, I grew up in an environment where the more you possess the better status you have in life.

MARTIN: Yes. We need stuff.

VALERIE: Exactly. And from there, we had three months to declutter before the move. We were not able to do that. So after the three months, my husband had to move first and I stayed behind with the kids to declutter. And the first night when he left. Oh my God, I fell in tears sitting in front of our storage room. And I hadn’t cried for many, many years before that. It was kind of, I was always going, doing the things. But then I connected with the emotion. And that was the moment where I was really starting to raise. So what I mean by that is when I start touching the belongings to really declutter the belongings bring me an emotion, because the sense of touch is linked to the limbic system in the brain. And then I was discovering the emotion progressively of that object. Remind me of these things. Or oh, I was happy when I got that. Or oh, I was sad when that happened. And a couple weeks after I realized I was not just smiling like, I was feeling it, and I was not needing a nap anymore in the afternoon. I was more energized and I was feeling better and my flashbacks were reducing. And all of these kinds of benefits with decluttering the belongings. So we were finally able to reunite the family and I decided that I wanted to help other people. So I did a course in home staging because we were military and we were moving often, you know.

MARTIN: Okay.

VALERIE: And then I realized, oh my God, people are able to place a pillow there or a blanket there, or remove a frame. That’s not a problem. Problem they have is to declutter before doing that.

MARTIN: Yes.

MARTIN: So it involves removing all of the,

VALERIE: Exactly.

MARTIN: I’m just looking behind myself here on my bookshelf and I’m thinking, okay,I’m mostly not very cluttered, but I have been hanging on to books. I want to read that book again. I probably never will.

VALERIE: Exactly.

MARTIN: But it represents something for me, right? It represents the memory of reading it.

VALERIE: Yes, but the knowledge. You already got it. Even if you let go of the book, the knowledge is in you.

MARTIN: True, but I haven’t let go of the book.

VALERIE: I know. At some point we were having 9 or 10 bookshelves full of books. Now we don’t have enough. We have less than one.

MARTIN: Right.

VALERIE: So I then specialized in professional organizing. You know, when we go to people’s home and help people declutter their home.

MARTIN: Yeah.

VALERIE: And very fast, I realized that most of my clients were opening to me about their trauma when I was decluttering with them.

MARTIN: Yeah.

VALERIE: Probably because I suffered myself. So I was approachable on that. And then I specialized even more. I did some studies and we did some research. We contacted researchers about the brain and things like that, to really realize that there’s a link between clutter and trauma.

MARTIN: Aha. Right.

VALERIE: That link that I explained to you at the beginning with unresolved trauma.

MARTIN: Unresolved connection to an object. And it’s holding us in bondage, right?

VALERIE: Yes, exactly. And as long as the executive functions are not able to kick in, people won’t be able to declutter. It will be like a pendulum. They let go of clutter. It comes back. They let go. It comes back. They declutter a countertop. It comes back.

MARTIN: So as a professional organizer, you are actually having to serve as an emotional coach or I don’t know, what would you call that?

VALERIE: I often search how to call me. The best way I found was trauma and decluttering coach.

MARTIN: Yes. Makes sense. Now, as I’m looking at my own self and my own problems, I’m just thinking, oh dear, this is going to be a very, very prevalent issue in the population. Right.

VALERIE: It is, it is. And people don’t want to talk about it because both trauma and clutter are too taboo.

MARTIN: True enough. I mean, you started out by saying that in your childhood, you experienced serious abuse, right?

VALERIE: Yeah.

MARTIN: I mean, my heart goes out to you. This is just.

VALERIE: Thank you.

MARTIN: A child that gets abused is just so. It’s such a betrayal.

VALERIE: It is. It is.

MARTIN: Okay. So you need to deal with that. And that’s not a small thing.

VALERIE: No it’s not. It’s not, but it’s possible. And there’s a way out. I helped hundreds of clients that were really able to move forward and create a happy life in a tidy home.

MARTIN: Yeah. I want to celebrate the personal victory. For you. And then what you bring to clients.

VALERIE: Yeah. Thank you.

MARTIN: Right? Like you’re actually able to hold them up with the emotion that you have experienced in yourself.

VALERIE: Yeah. With that. And I also did a trauma certificate to get even more knowledge and be able to support them more.

MARTIN: All right. So in practical terms, I can just see how much help you would be to someone who’s realizing that their emotional trouble is connected directly to their physical environment. Right?

VALERIE: Yeah.

MARTIN: And what is the process? How does it work for you when engaging with the client?

VALERIE: At the beginning, they don’t necessarily realize that they are connected. They realize that there’s some clutter and they feel overwhelmed, and they’re kind of paralyzed when they arrive to start decluttering. This is how they realize. And then when they connect with us, we explain to them that there’s a link with the trauma that is unresolved, and from there we bring them on a holistic decluttering journey. We put that stuff down. That’s our books. And in it there’s the dual method. And the dual method is really simple. There’s four steps everybody needs to pass through the four steps.

MARTIN: Okay. Let’s describe that.

VALERIE: Yeah. The very first step is to reduce the stress because as the cortisol is too high, the stress is too high and the executive function is slowed down. So when we decrease the stress the executive functions kick in. And I can see that easily when it’s not in a blood test, you know. But it will be when clients arrive on a call and they say, you know what, Valerie? Today I went to the mail and I right away discarded what I didn’t need. And. Sort what I decided to keep. That was awesome. I didn’t pile it on the countertop. Or they say, oh, I did my laundry and folded my clothes right away. So things like that that the people know they want to do. But with the executive function paralyzed or slowed down, they’re not able to do them. So they pile up. So that’s the very first step.

MARTIN: So reduce stress. And sometimes that will be difficult because you need to be making yourself safe in the environment, safe in your relationships and so on. Right.

VALERIE: Yep. And then we can tackle the mindset. So I call it the letting go mindset. That’s really, really important because people are now able to make decisions about to keep or not an item. But often they keep that one just in case. And maybe and what if and just in case and maybe and what if in that pile in the middle becomes the biggest pile?

MARTIN: Yeah.

VALERIE: So we want people to be able to be aligned with themselves to know what they want. To know their value. To know where they’re going in life. And for that, we talk about different subjects like emotion, authenticity, relationships, lots of different subjects that will help the people at the end of the day say, yes, I will really use that. Or you know what, this one? I don’t think so. If I need it again, I’ll find another one.

MARTIN: Yeah. That’s the victory, right?

VALERIE: That’s a huge victory. And after mindset we tackled time. I call it “discover free time.”

MARTIN: Okay.

VALERIE: Because what happened is lots of people have difficulty sleeping. So we look at routines and habits, not just about sleeping. That’s an example. But they will get more energized if their sleep is better and they will be able to obtain better and declutter easier. But we also look at our morning routine. How to get started in the day at some decluttering routine, all of that. But the basics is really that lots of people, they have too many things in their calendars that they’re freaking out, sorry for the word. Or, they’re sometimes on the couch scrolling and scrolling and scrolling, knowing that they have things to do and not able to do them because they don’t know where to look to do their things. So there’s a little bit of time management in there as well.

MARTIN: Mhm.

VALERIE: It’s an organizing skill. And not everybody learned it or was able to pass on the paper way to manage it to the online way or the phone way.

MARTIN: Right. Gosh, this gets complicated in many ways.

VALERIE: Yeah. And then we pass to the one that everybody is waiting for. It is “simplify your living space.” Now we have all the strategy we need to be able to declutter and maintain it.

MARTIN: Right.

VALERIE: The other things that we often forget is if we declutter too fast, it will come back. You know those big shows they do on TV? Sensational TV.

MARTIN: Like sensational weight loss and sensational this.

VALERIE: Yeah, the hoarders show and things like that. You know, they declutter so fast. It’s another trauma for these folks. And people just gather stuff afterwards unfortunately, because it’s not the way to do it..

MARTIN: Wow. Okay. I can just relate how if you don’t process the emotion that goes with letting go of the item, if you just throw it away, you’ll go back and you pull it back out of the garbage can, right?

VALERIE: Oh yeah. Like, you cannot imagine how often what I did is, I put things in a box and there’s a giveaway at the curb. So you put it in the box at the curb with free sign on it, and you sit on the couch in the living room and you’re looking through the window.

MARTIN: I think I need it. I think I need that.

VALERIE: Someone is picking it. Oh, and then you, the people left, and you go grab the box, put it in the garage just in case. I did that.

MARTIN: It will come handy. I cannot go without it.

VALERIE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. I can just see that. Oh, okay. So that’s straightforward. So the process is, it’s good to know that you have it structured, that you understand the steps and what you need to do. Because in many, especially in coaching, you need to have a plan you need to know,

VALERIE: Oh definitely.

MARTIN: Things need to happen before and after. It’s really important to have antecedents and understand how the process works. So how do people interact with you? Is this done one on one or is this done in group sessions? How does it work?

VALERIE: We have group sessions. So basically I have a platform that we call the Doers Academy. And in there, there’s some video that people are following and they can ask questions and things like that. And we suggest people to really not binge watch them because we want the subconscious to sink the information. Right. That’s one part of the program. Then we have meetings, and we have meetings almost every day except Sunday. It doesn’t mean that people need to be there every day, but it means that there’s a safety net if they’re processing something and they need support. And we have meetings on the four different steps that I explained. We have meetings on decluttering together, putting some music on and having fun together. Decluttering. We have different activities. Oh yes, people love that.

MARTIN: So it becomes a team effort.

VALERIE: It becomes a team effort. Yes.

MARTIN: That’s good. Yeah. because when people are finally willing to let a guest, even if it’s just on a video, but when you’re willing to let the guest come into your room and see the mess. Right?.

VALERIE: Yeah. At the beginning, lots of the clients on the call are either closing their video or putting a fake background or a blurry background. And progressively they will come with their own background. And it’s beautiful to see the transformation happening because my program is a year long. Because it needs time to change habits and paradigms.

MARTIN: Yes I agree.

VALERIE: And there’s so much to change when people have been suffering from trauma.

MARTIN: Right on. Okay. Well, this explains it rather well, Valerie. Where will people be able to connect with you?

VALERIE: Yeah, we have a website. It’s DowellHT.com. People can get on there. There’s a little bubble at the bottom of the website. They can click on it and start chatting with us. Or they can send an email in the contact to us. There’s really multiple places. I’m on Facebook as well.

MARTIN: Okay, great. So this is almost as good as any other movement, right? Any other movement that liberates us from dependencies, that helps us reach our full potential. Because what you’re describing is really blocking an expression of an intellect and of a creative person and so on, all that. So we have.

VALERIE: Oh yeah it’s a huge transformation.

MARTIN: We have all this human potential locked up essentially in trauma. Right?

VALERIE: Yeah. And people are so creative and they want to do their piece of heart or creating music or writing that they want to do. And they’re blocked, right?

MARTIN: You need to have time, right?

VALERIE: You need to have time and they’re blocked because, oh, I must be decluttering right now. Or where is that journal that I put somewhere or where is that piece of fabric.

MARTIN: Right. And so you spent two hours looking for the thing.

VALERIE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Mhm. Yes. This is so uplifting to me because of course I recognize it in me, I recognize it in other people. And it’s great to be able to connect with just knowing that you’re there. But for those who really need it, I’m just so encouraged to be able to introduce you to the audience that we have here at Life Enthusiast.

VALERIE: Yeah, thank you so much. I’ll make a link for people with the notes so they can contact us directly.

VALERIE: All right. Valerie Huard and DowellHT.com

VALERIE: Like home transformation.

MARTIN: Home transformation and human transformation at the same time.

VALERIE: And holistic transformation. Yes.

MARTIN: As well. That’s great.

MARTIN: Valerie, thank you very much. This is Martin Pytela at Life Enthusiast podcast. Life-enthusiast.com. Thank you.

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Podcast 484: Lung Repairs with Alvectin

On today’s podcast, Spencer Feldman from Remedy Link joins Martin to explore the crucial subject of lung health. Discover how environmental pollutants, microplastics, and toxins impact your lungs. Learn about Alvectin, a cutting-edge product designed to detox the lungs and support lung surfactant proteins to enhance respiratory function.

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MARTIN: Hello there everyone! Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast with me today, Spencer Feldman. Spencer is relentless. He has come up with more inventions. And today we’re going to talk about your lungs. Spencer Feldman from RemedyLink. Welcome.

SPENCER: Hey, how’s it going, Martin?

MARTIN: Oh, it’s going all right for me.

SPENCER: Okay, so let’s talk about lungs. I’ve been researching the human body now for about 30 years. And one of the things that I find when I do analyses of people’s bodies and try to figure out what was going on for them is, by and large, almost everybody had lung damage. It was to the point where I almost started ignoring it because it was everybody. Every time I looked at someone’s free radical load, the lungs are the ones are the most damaged.

MARTIN: I have a thought on that. Industrial revolution. Burning of coal. Burning of wood. Forest fires. Cars. Industrial pollution.

SPENCER: Yeah. I mean, most humans live in cities and by highways. And if you ever are in the country driving towards a city, you’ll see a brown dome over the city. So, if you live in a city or near a highway, it’s like smoking a couple packs of cigarettes a day. There are some parts of the world where it’s like smoking a pack or two a day, just going outside and breathing. So, yes, there’s all the particulate matter. Well, let me back up.

I didn’t know, I never really found a great way to support lungs. Yes, spirulina for some reason seemed to be beneficial in lungs. But I think that was more quenching the free radical damage and not so much clearing out the actual toxins. And so it was always in the back of my mind. I thought that one of these days, if I ever figure out how to clean out the lungs, that would really be great. So now there’s another issue.

Then there’s microplastics, right? Because the amount of microplastics is just absurd. There’s so many tons of this stuff. And it breaks down and gets finer and finer and finer and it gets into the atmosphere. So we’re all breathing microplastics in all the time. There’s like, what, 400 million tons of plastic made around the world each year that ends up in landfills. And it keeps breaking down from the sun and goes airborne. So, I’ve always been wondering: how could we clean out the lungs? And so the first thing we could talk about is this microparticulates.

SPENCER: Right. So the ability to remove a particulate depends on the size of the particulate and its electrical charge. Mucus in the lungs is negatively charged. So if what comes in is positively charged, which it often is, it can stick to the mucus. And also, if it’s relatively large, it can get stuck to the mucus. And then what happens is there’s these little finger-like projections called cilia that rhythmically move the mucus up and out of the lungs at about a quarter to half an inch a minute. And it kind of vibrates at around ten cycles per second. And then you swallow it and now it goes into the toilet. That’s assuming that you have proper mucus function, which requires bicarbonates, which is another conversation. But let’s assume you do for now.

So the larger particles don’t tend, they tend to get stuck in the mucus. If they’re neutral, they don’t get stuck in it so much as dissolved in it. But either way, they come out. The question really is, what about the really tiny ones? And so at the very end of the lungs or the center of the lungs, like after you breathe it and it goes all the way down to the place where the gases are being exchanged, they exchange in a place called alveoli. And you have 400 million, or at least you start with.

MARTIN: Think of tiny little caves like a sponge.

SPENCER: Tiny little sacks. 400 million of these little sacs called alveoli. And that’s eventually where the oxygen and the carbon dioxide exchange in the lungs. And we don’t have mucus or cilia in these tiny little sacs. How could we? They’re so small. And if mucus gets in there, you couldn’t breathe. So the problem is, how do the alveoli get detoxed? Because if you breathe in really, really tiny microparticles like smoking cigarettes or you drive a lot and you’re breathing in the exhaust and the brake pad particulate or you’re in a city or the microplastics, some of that gets into the alveoli. How do you get rid of it? Okay.

To get rid of stuff out of the alveoli, we rely on our white blood cells. And they can try to digest the particles. But they’re not digesting plastic. They’re meant to digest infections.

MARTIN: Also, I’m also thinking of the famous asbestos. The tiny needles o silicates of some sort.

SPENCER: Yeah, there’s a lot of things in glass fragments that get in. So the first thing is you could try to have the white blood cells digest them. They can’t digest them. They can try to push them into the lymphatics and then get them out the lymph, or they can try to shove them out of the alveoli and pass them on to the mucus and the cilia to push them out. But regardless of how the white blood cells get rid of the particulate, they first have to know that they’re there. So they have to get tagged. And this is done with special proteins called lung surfactant proteins. And what they do is they tag these particles and they stick them together in little clumps. So the white blood cells can then find them. And they kind of put them into little garbage bags. Get them all together. And then the white blood cells either push them out of the alveoli or into the lymph. So that’s one way in which we clear that out. That is really pretty much the main particulate. Volatile organic compounds are certainly toxic, but they’ll typically come out. Or you can bind to them with glutathione.

And it’s great to do glutathione nebulization every once in a while if your lungs are a little challenged. But the third thing is, what about infections like viruses and stuff? So, the white blood cells also try to kill the infections and move them out, and they also have to get tagged. There’s these two lung surfactants, and this is a lung surfactant A and D. And they’re associated with this kind of defense and cleaning process, pulling this junk out. Now the other thing is, there is another aspect of the lungs that have to be dealt with and that’s water in the lungs. So think of it this way. Let’s say you pour a little bit of water on your countertop in your kitchen, and then you put a pot on top of it with a flat bottom. If you try to pull the pot up, it’s kind of stuck there, right?

MARTIN: There’s the, what do you call it? Surface tension. Yeah. Surface effects somehow.

SPENCER: Yes. Well, why is that happening? Right. It’s not like water is sticky, but water has this property called surface tension. It likes to stick to it. Water doesn’t stick to other things, but it does stick to itself. And so when you pull it up, it tries to separate from itself. It doesn’t want to. And so it’s hard to pull it up. Well, the same thing happens in the lungs. If there’s any water in the lungs what happens is the alveoli, every time you breathe in, the alveoli have to expand a little bit. And when you breathe out they contract a little bit. Well, if there’s water in the lungs, it’s hard for them to expand. For the same reason, it’s hard to pull a pot off of a wet counter. The water is sticking to itself and it resists. So this is why near drowning and drowning is so dangerous. It’s because if water gets into the lungs, it makes it very hard for the alveoli to expand. And that’s why even a little bit of water on the lungs is a problem.

MARTIN: So this actually also reminded me of the problem with cytokine storm, where all of a sudden you have the infection and the immune system goes overdrive, and you have too much inflammatory response in the lungs, and all of a sudden there’s a whole lot of fluids and you’re drowning.

SPENCER: So the way the body keeps fluids from building up is with two different lung surfactants called B and C. And what they do is they push the water out of the alveoli. And that’s one of the reasons why, if you breathe on a cold day and you see fog in your breath, that’s your lung surfactants busy at work, pushing water out of your lungs. So now the challenge is, as we get older and as we’re exposed to toxins, the levels of our surfactants decrease. So over time, the people start to lose their lung function. And what you can do is we can put up some videos if you want. I’ll send them to you so you can edit these in. We will definitely link that. Alright. So if you take a look at these pictures on the screen now, you can see that on the images on the left, you see lungs that have some darkness in them. That’s water from people that have gone through near drowning experiences. And on the right hand side, you can see that those dark spots have diminished to a great degree. That’s after they were given lung surfactants. So you can see the lung surfactants are actually great for near drowning. And it’s something that’s actually being done more and more in emergency rooms.

MARTIN: Okay. Awesome. So if you’ve had long term water on the lungs then the surfactant will help to bring you closer to back to normal, right?

SPENCER: Another aspect of this is there are some safe and effective decisions people have made that are specifically destroying the parts of the lungs that make lung surfactants.

MARTIN: And so we are actually less efficient at making the stuff that will keep us well.

SPENCER: Right. There are some infections out there that will damage the body’s ability to make lung surfactants. Which means now, not only can’t the body go after the infection in the lungs, but there’s less, as the water builds up from inflammation, it can’t clear the water. So, the goal would be, from my perspective, what can we do to support lung surfactants?

We have a product called Alvectin, which has a proprietary yeast extract which may support the body in healthy lung surfactant levels. And when might you want to work on lung surfactants is a great question. So let’s go over who might consider this.

Anybody who’s ever been a smoker. Anybody who is maybe living right next to a highway or drives for a living or lives in a very polluted city, that’s something you could consider. Anybody who has either a chronic or an active infection that seems to be getting them in the respiratory centers. They could consider something to support their lung surfactants.

Also, if you look at your blood test, if your CO2 level is 29 or more, it should be 27. And once it gets to 29, that’s indicating that the body is having a buildup of carbon dioxide. And typically the way that could happen would be the alveoli are damaged or there’s not enough of them left, and the body is not able to get rid of as much carbon dioxide as it wants to. So a CO2 level above 27 is an indication that somebody might want to start supporting their lung function.

MARTIN: Alright. Yeah, I recall so well, my father, a smoker, would spend the first hour of every morning hacking, just trying to bring out all the stuff that came in the day before. And it was quite interesting. And now listen to this, I have moved to a new area. I have moved into a more industrialized, urbanized place and I now have more coughing issues than I’ve had when I lived in a better environment.

SPENCER: Yeah. When lungs get damaged, when the alveoli fail, it’s not the kind of thing that typically gets recovered. It’s really something you want to protect. You don’t want to lose alveoli as you age, and you want to protect the ones you have. Being able to get carbon dioxide out and bring oxygen in, it’s fundamental to how healthy you’re going to be and what your experience of having a body is going to be like.

So, I got to say, I was looking for something to support lung surfactants for 20 years, and I’d kind of given up on it, Martin. I was like, okay, it’s just not going to happen. They do make lung surfactants for premature delivery babies. But you need a prescription, and it’s incredibly expensive. And I thought, God, is there any way to support this in adults? And when I found out that there was, I was really excited. So if I either feel like I’ve been exposed to something either particulate matter, like maybe it’s smoke season, or maybe I’m in a car with someone who’s coughing and they’ve got a cold, whether it’s particulate or whether it’s infectious. That’s my signal. Okay, you know what? Let’s boost my, let’s see if I can support my lung surfactant levels a little bit right now. Maybe now’s a good time for that.

MARTIN: All right, so how do you administer this? Is it capsules?

SPENCER: Oh yeah. It’s a liposomal capsule. So it’s pretty easy.

MARTIN: So, take one. Take two. How do you do it?

SPENCER: Right. I mean, the stuff is harmless. So you could take lots of it. I mean, I’ve taken tablespoons. But basically the idea would be based on body weight. You could do 1 or 2 a day if you’re thinking, hey, I’m just going to do a lung detox. Or if you thought, wow, I think I’m coming down with something, what can I do to support my lungs right now? You could consider, I’ve taken as much as 2 to 3 capsules an hour for a little while. Just if I felt like I was at a risk to,

MARTIN: Every hour for the next 12.

SPENCER: Yeah, that’s what I’ve done for myself.

MARTIN: 24 capsules in the next 12 hours.

SPENCER: That’s what I’ve done when I thought I might be coming down with something.

MARTIN: All right. Okay. So this is like a rapid, let’s just strengthen the entire inner works from the nose in.

SPENCER: Well, most specifically, we’re looking at the alveoli. Now, having said that, if a person’s lung surfactant system improves, there’s no reason that it wouldn’t. Even though lung surfactants are primarily in the lungs, the ability to tag infections can happen anywhere. So it is possible that if you support your lung surfactants, that you could have a global improvement, regardless of where the body might be challenged at the moment.

MARTIN: All right. This is really good. I think this pretty much completes this introduction of Alvectin. It’s super exciting because it’s natural. You say it comes from yeast, actually, but it’s not going to give people Candida. Don’t be afraid of yeast. And here we are. Does it need to be refrigerated?

SPENCER: Does it need to be? No. Having said that, everything lasts longer in the fridge. I would say I would like it to be refrigerated. Anytime you’re dealing with small molecules that, um, where the shape of something is very important. So what does it mean for something to be colder versus hotter? The hotter a thing is, the more it vibrates. That’s what heat is. It’s a measurement of the vibration of something, how much it’s wiggling at a molecular level. And so if you have something that’s a relatively complex molecule, you don’t want it to wiggle too much because eventually it will break. Right. So when you have complex molecules, have them wiggle less and they’ll last longer. That’s not something you have to worry about for say something like, vitamin C. That’s very simple. But if you have something that’s a complex protein, then you would be well advised to keep it as cool as possible.

MARTIN: All right, Spencer, thank you for introducing Alvectin. This is awesome. So think: lungs, lung health. If you’re coughing, if you’re challenged by respiratory problems.

SPENCER: Well, I wouldn’t focus on the negative. I would say focusing on the positive. If you would like to support excellent lung health, then consider how to support your lung surfactant proteins.

MARTIN: Awesome. This has been Spencer Feldman from Remedy Link. Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com by phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 483: Feral Cells

In this episode, we examine the concept of feral tissue, exploring its fundamental triggers—Short Chain Fatty Acids, Aryl Hydrocarbon Receptors, and pH imbalance. We discuss Spencer Feldman’s innovative, research-oriented protocol aimed at addressing feral tissue growth through a comprehensive 6-step program. This protocol includes products designed to repair the microbiome with short chain fatty acids and lactic acid. As well as products to shift pH balance. It also employs a trophoblast program using pancreatic enzymes and electrons. While promising, these methods are currently unproven and intended solely for research purposes. They are not medical advice, nor have they been proven safe or effective.

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MARTIN: Well, hello, it’s Martin Pytela. Life enthusiast podcast. And with me Spencer Feldman Remedy Link Chief Formulator. Today we have a topic that is big. In the sense that a lot of people end up with very tragic health outcomes when they mismanage what we’re going to talk about today. Anyway, Spencer, let’s see how we can frame it without getting into trouble and stepping on toes of the people who are censoring us.

SPENCER: Right. Okay, so let’s start by saying that neither Martin nor I are physicians, and nothing we’re saying in this video should be construed as medical advice or for the treatment or diagnosis or therapy for any disease. Right. Now, having said that, we can also have intelligent conversations as free and sovereign human beings who are responsible for our own health.

MARTIN: Yeah, we can talk about physiology. We can educate about nutrition. We can educate about how things work in the body. We’re not promising that we are going to cure or remove or mitigate or whatever, any health condition. But we can talk to you about how health is built.

SPENCER: Having said that, as of pre-COVID days, one out of three people died of growths in their body.

MARTIN: Runaway cells.

SPENCER: Runaway cells. Tissue growing in ways we don’t want. Since vaccination, those numbers have increased. Some of them have. Sometimes people will go from diagnosis to death within one month. I suspect that in the decades to follow, it’ll be closer to 50, 60 or 70% of people will find that the end of their life is a result of growths in their body they don’t want.

MARTIN: And post mRNA technology people now have this turbo version of this stuff going.

SPENCER: The term I’m going to use for this video is called Feral tissue. F-e-r -a-l. Now I’m using that word very specifically. And let me give you a way of, the reason is because the word that’s typically used has a lot of baggage associated with it. A lot of fear, a lot of scientific baggage. That word when someone hears it, they could feel that their body has betrayed them, is fighting them, is hurting them. It’s out to get them, that it’s an evil and malignant entity. And I think that’s the wrong way to think about our bodies.

MARTIN: Yeah, let me just put it in my thoughts. The feral or feral or feral has to do with something that previously was civilized has gone wild. Think of it in that way.

SPENCER: So let’s say you have a family dog, a German shepherd, for instance. Right. And it’s a great dog and loves you and protects you and protects your family. But you weren’t properly trained on what it is to be a dog owner, and you don’t feed it for a month straight. Well, then at the end of the month, you hear a ruckus at three in the morning, you go outside and there’s your German Shepherd pinning down a chicken in your chicken coop that he broke into, and he’s about to eat it. Well, you go over there and you scold the dog and you try to take the chicken away, and he snarls at you, he may even bite you. Well, whose fault is that? It’s not the fault of the dog. It’s the fault of the owner who didn’t understand that you have to feed your dog. So, you could shoot the dog right then and there, but that would be violent and wasteful. You could poison the dog. Okay. Or you could go back inside and go get some raw hamburger meat and some bacon and a raw egg and put it in a bowl and bring it out and put it in front of your German shepherd. That went feral and went wild. And the dog might look at you and the chicken and the bowl of food and think for a second, and then sit down and gobble down all that food you made for it. Then lick your hand and go to sleep by your feet. You have now recovered your family dog. It is no longer feral. Right. That’s what we want to do with growths in the body. This was originally us and it went feral. It went a little wild and it doesn’t want to be wild. It’s just doing that, I believe, because we didn’t understand what it needed. So let’s back up. And what I want to show you Martin, if you’ll cue that logo now. Yeah.

MARTIN: I’m going to have on screen the logo. It has three circles and a bunch of words around it.

SPENCER: Right. So this logo is, let me pull it up here so I can look at it with you. Okay. So this logo is from the website feraltissue.com that will go into much more detail on the model that I’m presenting. And I want to express that this is a theoretical model at this point. We will have more information in a few months as we go through our first trials. Right now this is theoretical, but I’m going to present it to you because I think that there’s value to it, if only from a peer review perspective of opening up conversation. But also this may well be the model that is able to help a lot of people. So let’s talk about the model.

On the logo, you see three circles and seven terms around. And the term at the bottom is good health. That’s where we want to be. That’s where we start. And at the end of the journey, that’s where we want to come back to. And then each of those three circles represents a trigger event, something that triggers the body into becoming feral or tissue thereof. The first one is SFCA, that’s a short chain fatty acids. And it’s brown because to remind us that that’s the color of stool, you need a healthy microbiome to make short chain fatty acids. And the other two we will get to that’s the AHR and the pH. We’ll get to those in a minute.

And then these six phrases around the, as you go around the circle, these are the various programs that the body, I believe, activates as a result of these insults, these mistakes that we’ve made. So the goal is to reverse these six programs, and we do that by addressing the programs directly, but by also dealing with the three causes in the middle that started them all. So let us start with the first one, and that would be short chain fatty acids.

The microbiome, your gut, if it’s healthy, will make good short chain fatty acids including lactate, butyrate, propionate, acetate, valerate. These are all things that are very good for our health, and they control an enormous amount of our functioning. Now, you’ve heard of the term epigenetic. That’s the way of saying that, hey, genes are one thing, but the genes have to be turned on or off by things in our environment. And it is these epigenetic triggers that are as important as your genes, because a person can have terrible genes, but if they’re not activated epigenetically, that’s fine. And a person can have great genes, but if they’re not activated properly, then they don’t function properly. Even a good gene operated improperly is a bad outcome.

MARTIN: Yeah, you could start as a strong person and live a bad life and you’ll have bad outcomes. You can start as a weak person, but if you live well, you’re going to actually end up living a better quality of life than the person with great gifts who has abused them.

SPENCER: So let’s talk about what happens then. If the person doesn’t have enough short chain fatty acids because like most of us, they’ve taken antibiotics and glyphosate pesticides in their food and chlorinated water and so forth and so on. The body has less short chain fatty acids. Now, what the short chain fatty acids are supposed to do is they’re supposed to go on to these receptors that take them into the cell, and then they are there to interface with the nucleus and the DNA and give instructions to the DNA. Now, I want you to imagine that you’re a fisherman. Imagine a fisherman who needs to feed his family with five fish a day. He’s got a bunch of kids, and so he goes out to his favorite fish fishing spot every day, and he catches his five fish and feeds his family. Well, one day he goes out there, and then there’s only four fish and then three fish, then two fish. And now he’s down to one fish a day and his family’s getting hungry. So the next time he goes out, he dives off his boat and he looks around underwater and he goes, wow, there’s just not a lot of fish here. There are some fish, but not many.

SPENCER: So he goes back home and thinks about it. Makes four more fishing poles. Goes out the next day, puts all five fishing poles out in his boat, and now he’s getting some more fish. And it’s fun, right? So the fish in this analogy are the short chain fatty acids, and the fishing poles are the receptors that will pull in the short chain fatty acids into them, into the nucleus. Now, what the body will do when it doesn’t have enough of a particular ingredient that it needs, is to increase the number of fishing poles or increase the number of receptors. So that takes us to the first program, a receptor upregulation. It’s making more receptors to try to grab what it needs in an environment that is deficient. And so the indigo colored circle has the letters A, H, R. That stands for ARYL hydrocarbon receptor. That’s the receptors that we’ll be bringing in the short chain fatty acids. So let me tell you a story about a scientific mistake that happened 50 odd years ago that set us on the path of why I think feral tissue is still not resolved, medically speaking.

MARTIN: Well, it’s misunderstood because the genetic seduction happened, right?

SPENCER: So two things happened. I mean, more than two of them.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right.

SPENCER: So back in the 70s, somebody found a new receptor in the body that would bind to dioxin, which is the chemical in Agent Orange. Incredibly toxic for the body. And they said, okay, this binds to dioxin. We’ll call this a hydrocarbon receptor, because dioxin is a hydrocarbon. Well, that’s stupid because God didn’t give us a hydrocarbon receptor, right? The first exposure of hydrocarbons for humans was maybe 800 AD in China, with the first oil well dug. Before that, we didn’t have hydrocarbons. So why would we evolve a receptor for hydrocarbons? Well, it was lazy. It was scientifically lazy. What they should have done is say, hey, this receptor is binding to hydrocarbons. Let’s find out what it’s really for. And they might have found out it’s for short chain fatty acids, but they called it a hydrocarbon receptor. And then they said, wow. This hydrocarbon, when it attaches to this hydrocarbon receptor, causes growths in the body that can kill people, causes feral tissue. And so everybody starts looking for toxins, like hydrocarbons that will cause that. Now, the other thing they found with feral tissue is there’s a lot of genetic damage. And everybody said, oh, look, there’s 50,000 genes that are screwy in people that have feral tissue. Certainly, somewhere something in there must be the key. There must be some gene that’s doing it. Okay, so these are the two errors. The idea that genetics are causing this, I think, is backwards. I don’t think that the genes are causing feral tissue. I think the feral tissue is causing the damage to the genes, and so they’re looking in the wrong place. Yeah.

MARTIN: Exactly right. This is the epigenetic explanation of what’s really going on.

SPENCER: Right. Now, that’s not to say that there aren’t some genetic mutations that make people more likely to have feral tissue, but more likely to if the short chain fatty acids aren’t there. More likely, if the toxins are there, it still requires some trigger, right? It’s a predisposition, but it still requires a trigger. So the first thing I would say is it’s not necessarily genetic. And the proof for this would be a landmark study that was done where they took the nucleus of a feral cell and put it in a healthy cell. And the healthy cell did not become feral.

MARTIN: Yeah,. You’re now discussing Thomas Seyfried and his research and he’s proven that this whole thing is a metabolic problem, not a genetic problem.

SPENCER: Right. And the other part of that study is they took a normal nucleus and put it in a cell that was feral, and it stayed feral because it wasn’t the DNA that was running the show for the feral issue, it was the environment the cell was in.

MARTIN: And just to illustrate, I want to illustrate it so clearly, when you have an aquarium in which you are seeing sick fish, you don’t treat the fish, you change the water.

SPENCER: Yeah. Great point, great one. So because we’ve been looking at genetics as a prime mover rather than a secondary effect, And because we’ve been looking at hydrocarbons rather than because we’ve been calling these receptors hydrocarbon receptors rather than what they really are, which is short chain fatty acid receptors which can bind to hydrocarbons. The last 50 years, research went, in my opinion, down a very unfruitful path.

MARTIN: Oh, totally. We’ve wasted billions of dollars. Sorry to keep interrupting. We’ve wasted billions of billions of dollars in the war on that. That is just so unfruitful.

SPENCER: Well, and hundreds and hundreds of millions of people have died.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. We saved no one.

SPENCER: So with all those extra hydrocarbon receptors, it’s just a vacuum sucking in these toxic metabolites of virus fungi, bacteria and parasites and these toxic chemicals that are causing feral tissue. So the first thing, one other thing to understand is this isn’t theory. 20% of all feral tissues are associated with viruses like Epstein-Barr, Cytomegalovirus, herpes virus that a lot of us are carrying. So, the spike protein Covid, actually hijacks the hydrocarbon receptor. It’s why it accelerates feral tissue so aggressively. So what do we want to do? Well, the first thing we want to do is at the very bottom, is we want to increase the short chain fatty acids. We can do that immediately by actually taking short chain fatty acids. We have a short chain fatty acid product called Phylamet. But also long term we want to recover the microbiome. And you know we’ve got protocols for that. But that’s not necessarily going to be enough once this process is started. So the next thing we need to do is deal with the hydrocarbon receptors. So the reason it is indigo-colored is because the ingredient that I think we should use for the hydrocarbon receptors is an extract of the indigo plant. Now, dioxin, for instance, has an incredibly strong bond to the hydrocarbon receptor.

SPENCER: It’s got like a, I don’t know, like a five-day half-life, something like that. You need to displace it. So what we want to do is we want to knock the toxins off the hydrocarbon receptors so they can’t cause problems. And then we want to pull them out and detoxify them. But to knock them off, you need something with a stronger bond than the toxin itself. And dioxin has an incredibly strong bond to this. So the one thing, the only thing I found that will actually make a stronger bond to the hydrocarbon receptor than some of these toxins is the indigo extract. And thankfully it’s nontoxic. So we have a product called Receptimet that has an indigo extract in it that I like. And what I want to do is I want to clean off the receptors, and I want to kind of seal them up temporarily so that while we’re pulling these toxins out of the body, while we’re working on supporting the immune system, to have the body deal with the viruses and fungi and bacteria and parasites, that those metabolites don’t hijack our hydrocarbon receptor systems. So I want to pull them. So, that’s the indigo color.

SPENCER: Well, I would actually say it’s more active than passive, right? I would say that these are actually little arms sticking out of the cells, grabbing and pulling things in. So all those receptors are actively looking for short chain fatty acids. They’re hungry for them. They want them and they grab on to what they think is short chain fatty acid. And it turns out it’s a toxic chemical. Some instructions by a bacteria or virus or a fungi to tell the DNA to stand, to tell the DNA, to tell the immune system to stand down. So it’s not so much it’s an opening in the cells. They’re actively being pulled in. So what we want to do is imagine you’ve got all these little hands pulling in all these toxins. What you want to do is you want to go and kind of knock the toxin off the hand and then put something else in that hand to keep it busy so it doesn’t do it again. And that’s what I like to use in indigo extracts for.

MARTIN: Awesome.

SPENCER: And when I looked up these indigo extracts in medicine, guess what I found. They’ve been used for thousands of years for guess what? Feral tissue. So I wasn’t the first person to figure this out. I was just the first person to figure out how it’s happening, right? We understood verbally for thousands of years that, hey, this works. They use it in Chinese medicine for feral tissue. They just didn’t have the biochemical sophistication at the cellular level a thousand years ago to understand why it was working, but they figured it out. God bless them.

Okay, so this takes us now to the next of the programs, which is fermentation. So let’s say that we didn’t fix the microbiome. The short chain fatty acids are deficient. And now the hydrocarbon receptors are increasing. And that’s still not enough. The body says I still even though I’ve made all these extra receptors, I’m still not getting enough short chain fatty acids, but I really need them. So here’s my theory. My theory is that the body will then get or shift some cells from their normal function to actually making short chain fatty acids, that it’ll make some cells in the body ferment like the microbiome. Now, if you look at the work of Otto Warburg and you ask, what Otto Warburg said about feral tissue is he said, these are fermenting cells. Well, what’s the end product of fermentation? Well, in the gut, the end product of fermentation is short chain fatty acids. Now, what are the,

MARTIN: Lactic acid more often than anything else. Right?

SPENCER: Well, lactic acid is the one we’ve looked at. So let’s talk about that. So feral tissue has a lot of strange behavior that doesn’t make sense unless you are outside of this model. One thing is, it makes a lot of lactic acid or lactate. But that’s a very inefficient way to make energy. It’s like 16 times less efficient in making energy. And so people say, well, feral tissue is stupid. It’s bad. It’s dysfunctional because it’s not making energy properly. And if you look at it from the model of that tissue is designed to make energy. You’re right. It’s not very efficient, which is why it has to run 10 to 100 times faster. However, if you look at it from the model of it’s trying to make short chain fatty acids for you, it’s wonderfully efficient. So it’s very good from that perspective that it’s doing right. So the question is, do you think the body is stupid? If you think it’s stupid, then it’s making a mistake and very inefficient. But if you think it’s smart and it’s doing it on purpose for what it thinks is a temporary scenario, it thinks, hey, maybe the person got injured and you know, the caveman got bitten by a saber tooth tiger and isn’t eating food for 2 or 3 weeks by the fireside while he recovers.

SPENCER: That person’s not going to get food to make short chain fatty acids. The body does short term things that have long term consequences because it, I’m not going to say the body is omnipotent. It’s very intelligent. But it does have this flaw that sometimes it will do things in the short term that will have a long term consequence. Now from the intelligence of the body, if you’re 20 and it gets you to live to 40 before you die, or 30 before you die, and you get to have a bunch of kids, that’s success. Your genes have passed on, right? Your DNA is fine with you having a lot of kids that you have at 20 raise till they’re old enough to be on their own and they’re 30, and then you pass away. So if we say, well, the body is stupid, it’s making these short term benefits for long term problems. Yeah. But from its perspective it only wants it only cares if you make it to 40. Right. Anything after that? Well, maybe you’re out of the gene pool at that point. You’ve already passed it on. So even to say,

SPENCER: It’s still not stupid. It’s doing what it wants from its perspective of passing on its genetics. It’s just not doing what we want for, say, living to 80 and good health. So okay, so now we’ve got these cells that are making lots of lactate. Well, what about the other short chain fatty acids? Acetate, propionate, butyrate. That’s an hour long conversation that if you go to feral tissue com there’s a video that shows the biochemistry about how all the mechanics and enzymes of making all those other short chain fatty acids are increased in feral tissue. Let’s just say that you know that science is there, whether it’ll be proven out at peer review levels, we don’t know. But there is definitely some good scientific justification for suggesting that feral tissue is there primarily to make short chain fatty acids.

MARTIN: So I guess the bottom line for me is let’s not be so simplistic as to think that it’s some kind of a mistake that makes lactic acid by accident.

SPENCER: Yeah, yeah. Or any of the other short chain fatty acids. Right. All right. And some people will say, oh, well, lactic acid increases feral tissue. Well, there is a study that said, okay, is it the lactic acid or is it the acid. And what they did is they added lactic acid and some buffer agents. So it wasn’t acidic anymore. It was neutral to some feral tissue. And the feral tissue started behaving normally. So actually short chain fatty acids seem to have an anti feral tissue effect, but it’s the acids that caused the problem. So why does that happen? So think about where acids are meant to be formed. Short chain fatty acids are meant to be formed in the large intestine. And the large intestine has several defenses against this. One is every four days the cells of the large intestine will slough off and go out into the feces that’s there so that they won’t become feral, because if you leave a cell around acid long enough, it can become feral, it can become damaged. So it’ll slough off. But one of the first, the other thing is it creates a lot of mucus as a protection. And we’re going to get to both of those. But one of the first things that happens, first things that happens, the green pH circle, it starts dropping the pH in the area. Now feral tissue is interesting. It’s actually alkaline on the inside and acid on the outside.

SPENCER: And again that’s not something we can necessarily get into at this point in this video. I would watch the other videos for that. But the green circle with the pH is there to tell us that it’s pH. That’s the final driver of the worst of the problems. And the green color is there because if you check your urine, you want the pH paper to turn green, which suggests that you’re alkaline enough. So that’s what that color stands for. So the first thing that happens when tissue gets damaged is stem cells are recruited to repair tissue. Now, if you look at feral tissue, it de-differentiates. It doesn’t look like the tissue it started. If it starts as breast cells, it doesn’t look like feral tissue in the breast. Doesn’t look like a breast anymore. Feral tissues in the lung doesn’t look like lungs anymore, and the prostate doesn’t look like a prostate. It differentiates. It’s becoming more and more like a stem cell. Well, okay. That’s how injuries are repaired. The body takes normal cells and pushes them back towards stem cells. That differentiates them. So the beginning process of feral tissue is a healing process. It’s the creation of stem cells. And the problem is that those stem cells can’t heal the injury caused by the acids that are building up in the tissue. So the body is trying, but it doesn’t really have the capacity to do that.

MARTIN: This is an interesting point here because there are some other scientists that talk about electricity. Doctor Tennant came up with that, and he’s showing that cells to repair themselves correctly need to be in an alkaline environment. Right. So we’ll talk about 50 millivolts and all that.

SPENCER: Yeah. We’ll talk about the voltage in about another ten minutes.

SPENCER: So the stem cell part of this program is actually a healing response of the body. So the fermentation, and all of these things, the upregulation is the body trying to deal with short chain fatty acids, the fermentation, the lack of short chain fatty acids, the stem cell aspect and dealing with the injury. So the next thing that happens is mucus is produced or mucus. Feral cells have a lot of mucus in them. And well, where in the body do you find mucus? A lot of it you find in the large intestine as a protection against acids, or in the stomach as a protection against stomach acids. So the mucus is explained by this. So then the next thing that happens is sloughing. Now in the large intestine, when the cells are about four days old, they slough off so they don’t get damaged so that the damage they’ve incurred from the short chain fatty acids doesn’t cause them to become problematic. Where does a cell sluff off if it’s in the breast or the prostate? It can’t go anywhere. Well, actually it can, and it can leave and go into the blood vessels of the lymph and set up shop somewhere else. So sloughing is a process of the escape of those cells to other parts of the body.

MARTIN: I guess proliferation would be the word for that?

SPENCER: So the last program we’re going to get is called the trophoblast program. And that becomes a part of the placenta. Now, in animals other than humans that have an egg yolk sac. Reptiles and birds, part of the placenta actually leaves and goes to become the egg yolk. And it does the same for humans. But since we don’t make egg yolks, it then decides to come back and on its way back, it passes through all the tissue and tries to make its way back to the genital crest and into the ovaries and the testes. Because those are germ cells, but not all of them make the return journey. And it’s these kinds of lost trophoblastic cells that we believe are the seeds for future feral tissue. So we all have these seeds in us, places where a couple of hundred of these cells throughout the body that didn’t make it back. And these are the ones that I believe are recruited by the body to make short chain fatty acids for us because they’re stem cells. They’re they’re pluripotent. They can become anything.

SPENCER: So they said, okay, well become this. All right. So let’s take a look at some very interesting equivalence between the trophoblast or the placenta and feral tissue. Both grow very quickly. They both can exist in an environment of low oxygen and high carbon dioxide. They both have high blood, accelerated blood vessel growth. They both lack contact inhibition. That is, they don’t stop growing when they touch each other. So let’s say I get a paper cut. Well, the cells on either side of the paper cut are going to grow until they meet in the middle. And then when they touch each other, that’s contact inhibition. They say, okay, I should stop growing now. Placenta and feral cells don’t do that. They keep growing. Both have limited Krebs cell activity and make lactic acid. They both create the pregnancy hormone hCG, which triggers progesterone, which then stimulates migration and evasive behavior. You can actually test for feral tissue with a pregnancy hormone. So that’s telling you that there’s something going on between pregnancy placentas and feral tissue, right? They both produce enzymes that allow them to invade other tissue. In the case of placenta, it’s invading the uterine wall to kind of anchor in. So these are very similar tissues.

MARTIN: Yeah. I have visualized it for myself as the placenta is really a foreign body. The baby is a foreign piece of foreign tissue inside of the womb. And so normally the immune system should attack it and destroy it. So it needs some kind of a signaling system that tells the immune system, yes, I am strange and foreign, but leave me alone.

SPENCER: Right? And it also needs messages going to the placenta to keep it from doing… What happens is that right about day 56 [of gestation], the placenta gets a signal to stop being aggressive. It stops invading. It stops making new blood vessels. It starts acting like normal tissue because if it didn’t and in some women it doesn’t. And then that’s deadly. It would keep growing and just take over the mother and kill her. And that does happen for some in some rare cases. So what is it that happens at day 56 that tells the placenta, stop acting like this. That phase is over. Now it’s time for you to kind of become normal tissue again. And so what happens is at day 56, what we have is the creation of certain enzymes, certain pancreatic enzymes in the fetus. Now why would the fetus need pancreatic enzymes. It’s not digesting food. It’s not eating anything. It’s getting it all from the umbilical cord. It turns out that these pancreatic enzymes are the enzymes that trigger the placenta to become normal tissue again. And so there was a famous Doctor Beard who said, hey, I think he was an embryologist. He studied the process and he said, hey, I’m seeing a lot of correlations, a lot of equivalences between placenta and feral tissue. And he was the one that figured out what happened on day 56. So he started injecting people with pancreas extracts that had these enzymes in them and getting a lot of great results.

SPENCER: He was followed by Doctor Kelley and then Doctor Gonzalez. The FDA made injections of pancreatic tissue illegal, and so they had to go and make supplements. And here’s what ended up happening. The enzymes that Doctor Kelly sorry, Doctor Beard was originally using were in a precursor form. Right. So the enzymes were trypsinogen and chymotrypsinogen. And the ogen part at the end means they haven’t been activated yet. And what happens is those were getting in the blood and they would go to the site of the federal tissue, and then they would get activated at the site of the feral tissue, just like what happens in the placenta. And they were triggering the placenta, the feral tissue to calm down, to stop doing that kind of behavior. But when they stopped allowing that injection, people had to take it orally. And when you take it orally, what happens is the stomach converts it into the active form, the trypsinogen becomes trypsin, the chymotrypsinogen becomes chymotrypsin. And some of that happens in the small intestine. And so now we’ve got the wrong form. It still works, but not as well. And that’s why I believe people like Gonzalez were telling other people who are using that kind of protocol to take 150 to 200 capsules a day, because they were getting the wrong form.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah, the quantity had to be just right. Yeah.

SPENCER: Right. So when you see a protocol that takes enormous quantities of something, that should be a sign that maybe someone hasn’t figured out the absorption or hasn’t got the formula just right. So what I did is I looked at this and I said, well, what we really want are the trypsinogen, the chymotrypsinogen, the precursor forms. It’d be great to inject them, but we can’t do that. And if I give it to somebody orally, it’s going to shift the form. So what we did is we made it as a liposomal so that it’s protected from the stomach, and it opens up in the small intestine, and then the actual original form gets delivered. So this is.

MARTIN: This actually is genius. Really. You know, thank you. Don’t don’t just underestimate how big a leap in scientific thinking this is.

SPENCER: Thank you. So, the product is called Pancremet. And the idea is we’re trying to recreate what Doctor Beard, and then I think Doctor Kelly did it for a little while before he was shut down, was doing with these. We’re trying to recreate the original form and what we want to do is we want to give the same trigger to the feral tissue that they were giving, the same trigger that the fetus gives the placenta at day 56.

MARTIN: Right. It’s like me saying, okay, mommy, I have finished the growth phase of this initial. Now we’re going to go into this other mode, right?

SPENCER: Yeah, exactly. So If we take a look at these six programs, what we want to do is reverse them. Right? So what can we do about the trophoblast program? Well, perhaps, precursor pancreatic enzymes. What can we do about the sloughing and the mucus and the stem cells? Well, that’s all because of the pH, right? It also happens that the same pancreatic enzymes also tend to break down mucus, which is important when you’re dealing with feral tissue because you want to, the mucus can keep the acids from leaving and the supplements you’re trying to give from getting in. So we want to break that mucus sheath down. So we have actually have access to that tissue, which is something I don’t normally talk about, but that’s another way that plays in. So we want to shift the pH. Now, normally the person who did most of the work on pH with feral tissue was Doctor Simoncini. He’s no longer with us, but his daughter Minerva is carrying the torch. When I spoke to Doctor Simoncini, what I found out was that they were doing injections of sodium bicarbonate.

MARTIN: Yeah. It was direct delivery into the tissue.

SPENCER: As close as possible. And they were getting tremendous results. But and again, we know this clinically that if you change the pH at the tissue, you change the behavior of the feral tissue, it becomes normalized. However, they didn’t get good results if it had already become metastatic, or if a person had already done chemo or some other forms. And well, you know, that’s a lot of people. So that’s why you don’t just focus on one part of the equation. You don’t just say, oh, we’re just going to work on pH, or we’re just going to work on detox, or we’re just going to work on enzymes. You have to take it as a whole. So, I’m very grateful for the time that Doctor Simoncini gave me to help me understand this.

So the first thing I was doing was I was actually subcutaneously injecting sodium bicarbonate into my lymphatic region. And that’s a great thing to do. And if you know how to do it or you don’t, I’ll walk you through it. But the other thing you can do is you can take baths with sodium bicarbonate. But the easiest thing to do is we make a product called Bicarbamet, which is the bicarbonates and a time release delay method, so that it doesn’t wipe out your stomach acids, and it opens up in the small intestine where it should be. But pH would be very important.

SPENCER: You could look at our Bicarbamet product. I could walk somebody through how they could do some subcutaneous injections if they wanted to do that. And you could also take two cups in a hot bath of baking soda. And what you want to do is you want to see your urine pH get up to around 7.5. If you’ve got a urine pH of 7.5, you now have a surplus of alkalinity. You don’t just want to get to the place that a healthy person should be, which is 6.5. You want to take it so high that you’re just flooded with alkaline. And the nice thing about the sodium bicarbonates in when you’re dealing with feral tissue is they tend to accumulate right at the feral tissue. And again, this is because this is not something trying to kill you. This is not something trying to hurt you or outsmart you. If you give it what it wants, it will work with you. It will pull in the short-chain fatty acids. It will pull in the bicarbonates. Right. This is the dog that wants to protect the family. It’s not looking to hurt your chicken and bite your hand. We have to stop this idea that this is something that we have to go to war with. This is something that we have to coordinate with and understand. Now, yes, there are some cells that may be so feral that they have to be killed.

SPENCER: And that’s a job for a functioning immune system. But I believe the mass majority are ones that we can recover. Okay. So now we go back. That’s a stem cell. We get to the fermentation. So we got the shifting of the pH. We’re moving backwards. We’re down regulating the hydrocarbon receptors. We’re blocking the receptors. Maybe we’re also going in there and pulling out some chemicals and some metals. We make products Xeneplex and Medicardium, if you want to support the body and deal with detox. And then we’re going to go back even further and we’re going to say, well, what started the whole thing? And my opinion is it was originally started at the microbiome level as a shortage of short-chain fatty acids. There’s one other thing we can do. You did mention the work of Doctor Tennant and he has done some brilliant work. And he brought to everyone’s attention that normal cells have a much higher voltage than feral cells and also placental fetal cells. Also very low voltage, actually, surprisingly, fast dividing cells. And so some people will say, well, we should go out and get electrically grounded. We should walk barefoot. And that’s all well and good. And I think it’s a fine idea. I don’t have the ability to spend my days walking barefoot in the forest and on the beach,

MARTIN: The climate doesn’t support it.

SPENCER: Yeah. And I spend most of my time doing research. So I needed a way to get an electrical charge. And maybe you saw this band that I’m wearing. So we have two electrical charging devices. We make the clinical version that goes up to 18,000V. Don’t be spooked by the number. It’s not the volts that are dangerous. It’s the amperage. It’s at very low amperage. And then that’s very high voltage. You could support the body in breaking down crystals. That’s a whole other ball of wax inside the tissue. But we also make the one I’m wearing at the moment, which is a portable charger which does 300V, which is about twice what you’d get walking barefoot on the beach. And so that’s like being grounded 24/7, or as long as you’re wearing it, you don’t have to plug in anywhere you can walk. You could be in your car. You could be doing anything. And the studies on mice, what they did is they did these studies where they gave mice some tumors and then they stripped them of their electrons. They put something like a carpet that the mice would have to crawl under as they moved around. Because synthetic materials strip electrons off our body and the tumors grew really, really quickly. So we know that the speed of which a tumor grows is directly related to the voltage that is applied to it. So although it’s not listed on this particular map, on this system, voltage is an important part of it. It’s not something that, it’s just not part of the process by which the body is reacting. The body, I don’t think, is lowering voltage. It’s more like a third-order effect, but it’s still something that we should address.

MARTIN: Well, I would like to just throw in this bit, which is, it’s the electrons. The electron is donated when you are grounding and the lack of electron is also known as oxidation. Oxidative stress. So when you’re donating these electrons, you’re repairing the deficit that you may have created through your lifestyle.

SPENCER: And so one way to think about it is you could buy a lot of antioxidants, to try to donate electrons. And what the antioxidants do is they are the transport mechanism for an electron. But once they donate their electron, what do they do? So you still need to have the electron. So let’s say you have a city and it needs to have trucks come in to bring food. If all you do is have the trucks come in with one load of food and you don’t refill the truck, that truck can’t keep bringing in food. If there’s no more food that goes in the truck. Better that your city has half the number of trucks, but they keep filling up with food, then having lots and lots of trucks that only take one, that only do one delivery. So the Earth is the ultimate antioxidant. The electrons come off the solar wind from the sun, hit the atmosphere, transfer to the Earth by lightning strikes, and then we suck it up through our feet. If we walk barefoot into our bodies, through the meridians, which then transport it to our cells. And you don’t need as many antioxidants which are the trucks to transport the electrons if you’re loaded with electrons in the first place. So if you’re out there buying lots and lots of antioxidants, you don’t need so many. What you really need is the electrons that they’re meant to transport.

MARTIN: So hug trees and get an Electron Charger.

SPENCER: Yeah. Go out for a walk barefoot in the forest if it’s a nice day or by the beach.

MARTIN: Okay. So have you gone full circle all around?

SPENCER: I think we’ve gone the whole way back. Right? So we reverse it.

MARTIN: One thing I wanted to mention is, of course, the oxygen. Right. The pH is inversely proportional to how much oxygen the body fluid will carry. So when we were talking about pH and relationship to oxygen and how the cell will or will not respirate, we need to be aware of the fact that the more acid the body fluid is, the less capable of carrying oxygen it is. That’s why this pH of above seven is so important.

SPENCER: So to summarize this from a protocol perspective, going backwards through the programs. At the trophoblast program level, you could consider the Pancremet product which contains the precursor forms of the pancreas enzymes and a liposomal form. At the pH level, you could consider our Bicarbamet product that has the bicarbonates that open up at the small intestine. At the AHR, the aryl hydrocarbon receptor level, you could consider the Receptimet product that contains the indigo extract and moving down to the short-chain fatty acids, you could consider Phylamet, Pokegeshi and Panaceum to support the body in working towards a healthy microbiome.

MARTIN: Right.

SPENCER: Again, this is a model. This is theoretical. This is something that I would do. I’m not saying this is something that you should do or something you should do instead of doing something else. It’s just something to consider and hopefully in time, we’ll have enough peer reviewed study of this model to see if it’s something that can be of benefit to humanity.

MARTIN: Yeah, someday this may become medical mainstream. Right now it’s not. All right. Well, Spencer Feldman, wonderful amount of research and inventiveness in helping the body and the immune system in functioning correctly. I think this is a breakthrough for me. Anyway, thank you for listening. This is Spencer Feldman. Remedylink. And Martin Pytela. Life-enthusiast.com by phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 482: pH Balance

On today’s episode, we’ll explore how our bodies manage acids through critical metabolic pathways. Our metabolism constantly produces acids, mainly hydrogen ions (H+) and carbon dioxide (CO2). We can breathe out CO2, but H+ needs to be either combined with CO2 with bicarbonate or removed through urine using phosphate and glutamine/ammonium pathways. Join Martin and Spencer as they discuss these metabolic pathways, their health implications, and a new way to support your body’s naturally acidic systems with Bicarbamet.

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MARTIN: Well, hello there. This is Martin Pytela at Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today, Spencer Feldman. Spencer is the CEO at Remedy Link. And Spencer, wouldn’t you believe it, has found a way to dive into the most persistent problem we have faced, which is the pH balance, acidosis, alkalosis, knowing where we are and working on it. But there’s so much to it. I would rather have Spencer kind of dive into it. But the main point that I want to make is when your pH balance is off, your mineral stores are affected and your mineral stores are in your bones. So if you’re suffering with thinning bones, you may have an issue with pH balance.

MARTIN: And this talk will probably interest you a lot. Spencer, what do you think?

SPENCER: Hey, Martin, I have got a lot to share about pH, so here we go. Okay. So it’s one of the things you hear in the alternative medical spheres is, oh, you should be more alkaline and kind of, right? You don’t want to be completely alkaline. You need stomach acid to break down proteins and sterilize the foods you eat. You want the colon to be acidic to make good short chain fatty acids. But yes, as a general rule, we are too acidic.

MARTIN: Let me just butt in here before you get in. Because this is my metabolic typing hat. We know that there are some people who wake up overly alkaline. Over-alkalinity is represented in your emotional world as dark moods, unmotivated, procrastinating, and even depressed.

SPENCER: I wouldn’t agree with that. I’ve seen plenty of people that are, I see plenty of people that have great metabolic acidity with the same symptoms.

MARTIN: I know that when we have acidity, people are short tempered, anxious, ragey, easy to anger, that sort of thing. Now, if you see them swinging back and forth, that would be because their meals are affecting them. I promise you that if you’re an oxidizer, you’ll be alkalized by fats, and if you’re autonomic, you’ll be alkalized by carbohydrates on your plate, in your food. And this will swing.

SPENCER: Okay.

MARTIN: Anyway, the main point is, what’s your overall situation? Right?

SPENCER: So as a general rule, if you check most people’s pH and through their urine and saliva pH, I’ll tell you a bit about that later. Almost everybody I find is acid. And the people that look like they’re alkaline, it’s a false alkalinity because they’re getting ammonia from an infection with a background of acidity that the ammonia is masking, but that’s a little more complex and we’ll get there in a minute. First, let’s start at the beginning, which is 50,000 years ago. So upper Paleolithic Stone Age humanity was eating roughly 87% alkaline food. Well, what does that mean? What does it mean that a food is alkaline? Well, the first thing we did when we tried to figure this out is people would burn food and take a look at the ash. And if the ash was primarily sodium, potassium, calcium and magnesium, the alkaline elements, they said that’s an alkaline food. And if the ash was primarily iron, sulfur, iodine, and chloride, then they said that’s an acid food.

SPENCER: Okay, that’s a good rough sense of it. But then we got a little more sophisticated and realized some foods that are acidic have an alkaline effect on the body, like acetates, citrates, and so forth and so on. So what we really want is to know, at the end of the day, after you eat a particular food, does it make you more or less alkaline, more or less acidic and how much? And we’re pretty good at that now. And as a general rule, all fruits, with the exception of plums, figs, dates, and a couple of others, are alkaline forming. And all vegetables, with the exception of some of the oxalate things like chard and spinach, are also alkaline. And then all animal products mostly are acid forming, as are grains and beans, with the exception of, I think, oats, quinoa, wild rice and lentils.

MARTIN: Okay, I would really like to butt in here with, this is described as an autonomic person would see it. If your dominance is autonomic, then you will react exactly like this.

SPENCER: Okay.

MARTIN: And if you’re an oxidizer, you will have a different reaction, I promise. Go on.

SPENCER: Okay, so we are not eating like the upper paleolithic. We’re not eating 87% of our foods as alkaline forming. You know, there’s this idea that hunter gatherers were wildly successful in eating meat all day long. If you actually go to the few hunter gatherer cultures that still exist on the planet, maybe every three days they get meat. They’re not successful on every hunt. So 87% sounds about right. So unfortunately, we eat the other way. We eat 87% acidic. Now, the body has an ability to get rid of acids, right? So acids in the most fundamental form is of protons, a hydrogen proton, that’s an acid. That’s the most simple acid.

MARTIN: You mean like H+?

SPENCER: Yeah. And so we can get rid of acids in a number of different ways. One thing we can do is we can exhale CO2. That’s a form of release of acids. And then the other thing is we can push hydrogen out of the body. Using some of the alkaline elements, like sodium and potassium. And then you can also have bicarbonate. And the bicarbonate, when it meets up with an acid, gets neutralized, and then it can be removed from the body.

MARTIN: Yeah, I mean, the bicarbonate is the quickest way to take CO2, carbonic acid, combine them, and now you go from acidity to alkalinity.

SPENCER: Right. So the body uses bicarbonates as the main way to buffer acids.

MARTIN: Right.

SPENCER: And bicarbonates do a number of things. I mean, there’s some very fascinating things it does. Are you familiar with phase four water and the work of Pollock, doctor, Pollock?

MARTIN: Yeah, we talk about it a lot. Exclusion Zone, or water that has been unclustered, declustered, energy removed. So it actually doesn’t stick together.

SPENCER: Right. That requires bicarbonate for that to happen. Another thing that people don’t realize is mucus itself, which the body has lots of mucus in it. And it’s not a bad thing. Right. You need some mucus for the lungs to clean themselves out. You need mucus for the microbiome to live. It fluffs out a thousand fold in the presence of bicarbonate.

SPENCER: So a bicarbonate deficiency, the mucus shrinks down a thousand fold. And then the lungs can’t clean themselves properly. And the gut isn’t all that healthy. Bicarbonate does a lot of stuff. So one thing we talked about is it neutralizes acids. Another thing it does is the small intestine is supposed to be alkaline. So bicarbonate is actually secreted in the bile and in the pancreatic enzymes, in the juice of the pancreas into the small intestine to neutralize stomach acid.

SPENCER: So the bicarbonate that comes there actually keeps the stomach acid from burning the rest of the small intestine and neutralizes it. But it also activates all the enzymes. All the digestive enzymes in the small intestine have to be in an alkaline environment to work. Enzymes are very pH dependent. So an enzyme that works 100% at a pH of say, 7.5, which is mildly alkaline, might only work at 10% at a pH of 6, which is a little acid.

MARTIN: Right. So it will do nothing in your stomach, it will do its work in your small intestine.

SPENCER: Right. So we have people that will take digestive enzymes by the handful, hoping to improve their digestion. But they don’t realize that if their small intestine isn’t alkaline, those enzymes won’t do anything or do very little, maybe 10%. So there’s also an enzyme in the small intestine called intestinal alkaline phosphatase. And what that does is it actually binds to lipopolysaccharides and helps with the health of the small intestine. So if someone, listen to the name of it, intestinal alkaline phosphatase, it has to be alkaline for it to work. So again, if the small intestines aren’t alkaline, then what happens is we not only don’t digest food properly, but we lose the protection against SIBO and other things. So it’s pretty important to keep the body alkaline.

So first thing is, well, how would you know if you need it? Well, if you have access to a blood test, you can look at your CO2 levels. And what CO2 actually is on a blood test, it’s not really a measurement of CO2, it is a measurement of your bicarbonate, which is the main way that CO2 is bound in the blood.

MARTIN: Meaning that if you don’t have enough carbonates, your CO2 will go up?

SPENCER: It goes down. So low bicarbonates means you have low CO2, which means your bicarbonate stores are down. But if your CO2 is high, that’s really more an issue of the lungs not being able to, the alveoli starting to fail. And then you’re looking for a lung detox. But barring having a blood test, you can go get some 6 to 8 pH paper or 5.5 to 8 pH paper. And you can check your pH levels with your urine and your saliva.

SPENCER: Now, your urine represents the acids coming out of you and your saliva represents your bicarbonate store, your reserves.

MARTIN: Right.

SPENCER: So easy to check your urine first thing in the morning. You just pee on it, shake off the excess pee and look at the color pretty quick. And the pH paper changes color. And based on a little chart, it’ll say, oh, it’s this color. So it’s this pH.

MARTIN: Right.

SPENCER: You really want, optimal is 6.5. But I think anything 6 and above is fine. If you’re getting below six, that’s a lot of acids your body’s having to dump.

MARTIN: Dumping acids like it’s out of style.

SPENCER: Right. And eventually, the body won’t be able to do that anymore. Right. There’s only so much you can ask of the kidneys. So the other thing is you could check your saliva. And the way you do that is first thing in the morning, before you brush your teeth, you rinse your mouth out with some water and then spit it out, and then kind of gnaw on your tongue a little bit until it’s into a little bit of saliva comes. And check that, i should be 6.8. Yeah.

MARTIN: This is an important point. If you start thinking about food, your enzymes in your mouth will change, your saliva will change. So you need to actually be quite conscious doing this, because if you, for example, check your saliva just before breakfast or after breakfast, it’s going to be all over the map. You need to actually really do this as described here.

SPENCER: Right. But if you’re not sure, you could do it several times during the day, you’ll see it move around. What you want is you want to see that the saliva never goes below 6.8. And what they found in studies is a saliva of 6.6, which is just a little bit acid, has increased the risk of metabolic syndrome, and that would be insulin resistance, high blood pressure, obesity, high triglycerides, low HDLs, and things like that. So if you see that your urine is dropping below 6 or your saliva is 6.6 or lower, that’s an indication that your body is getting more acid than it can handle. And now, how might this play out? Well, there’s this tissue inside the body called connective tissue, and it’s a packing material between all the cells. It’s actually the only thing that touches a cell.

SPENCER: Blood vessels don’t touch cells. Nerves don’t touch cells. Capillaries don’t touch cells. The connective tissue is what surrounds every cell in the body, and all the nerves go through it, and all the blood vessels and capillaries go through it. And what happens is the capillaries irrigate the connective tissue, they leak slightly, so they’re irrigating, and all the nutrition goes into there. And then the connective tissue says, okay, this can pass and this can’t. If it’s something it doesn’t like, it’ll hold onto it. So it’s another filtering mechanism.

SPENCER: And if it fits something it wants to pass on to the cells, it will. And then the cells use it in their function, whether it’s sugar or lipids or proteins. And then the cells have a waste product, so they release their waste products back into the connective tissue, and then from there into the lymphatics, and then it leaves the body. So that’s how that whole system works. So it’s really important that your connective tissue is happy. And it’s a very ancient system. It predates almost every other system in the body. Now, a lot of people think that we can’t store water soluble materials, that you can store fat soluble materials in the liver and the fat, but not water.

SPENCER: Well, the connective tissue stores water soluble materials. So it’s actually also a storage system. So it’s a filter, it’s a storage system, it’s protection. And one of the things it can do is it can store extra toxins. So if there’s a lot of acids, because the person is eating very acidic food, and their kidneys are finally unable to keep up with it, and they’re not getting enough bicarbs, then these acids go into the connective tissue. Now, remember, I said bicarbs are in the fourth phase of water. This is one of the reasons why juicing vegetables is so good for you.

SPENCER: Not only are you getting the alkaline elements, sodium, calcium, magnesium, potassium, which help push out the acids out of the kidneys, but you’re also getting bicarbonates as the fourth phase of water in the juice, which helps you exhale it out as well. So, great if you can drink vegetable juice. But most people are getting more acids than their body can deal with. And so the connective tissue starts storing it. And, you know, it’s not a good long term phenomenon. Now, have you ever done, like, survival training where you made cordage or made yarn by spinning together threads?

MARTIN: Yeah, in my youth. Yes, of course, the boy scout days.

SPENCER: Yeah. Yeah. So if you want to make rope or you want to make yarn, you basically spin together fibers and they get stronger, and then you twist those stronger fibers together, and each time it gets bigger and bigger and eventually you have a rope. So our body does it all the time, and that’s what tendons and ligaments are. And so we’re making tendons and ligaments by spinning together connective tissue fibers, however, they attach to each other with something called a hydrogen bond. And if there’s already lots of hydrogen there in the connective tissue, because that’s what acid is, it’s hydrogen. Then, instead of the connective tissue bonding to other connective tissue, it bonds to the hydrogen.

SPENCER: And then the spitting of these fibers doesn’t work very well, and we make weak fibers. Now, if you’re over 40 years old, you may have the experience of hurting yourself for no good reason. You know, you pulled your back, you twisted something. You twisted a knee. And it’s not like you had any fun doing it. It’s not like you were out playing racquetball or hiking. You just walked and turned slowly, and something ripped. And then you thought to yourself, wow, I’m getting old.

SPENCER: How did I hurt myself, just from walking? Or maybe you’re, like, sleeping in bed. And you turn and you’re like, oh, you turned a little funny, and you ripped something. How does that happen? That wouldn’t happen when you were young. Well, what happens is the acids are building up, and the binding capacity of the tendons and ligaments is weakening so that you’re getting these frays, these very weak connective tissue, ligaments and tendons. And then it just tears with the littlest bit of pressure. So one aspect of aging gracefully is getting the acids out of the connective tissue so that our tendons and ligaments are strong and we can move about without hurting ourselves and comfortably and with strength. As an example of this, take a look at the skin of a 90 year old person. It’s fragile and it’s transparent and it’s thin.

SPENCER: Why is that? Well, skin is the connective tissue you can see. So you’re seeing the effective acids on the connective tissue for 90 years. And even though that’s what you can see, that’s actually what’s happening inside. The connective tissue inside the body looks just like the skin on the outside.

MARTIN: It’s frail and weak, fragile.

SPENCER: Right. So what we want to do is we want to protect our connective tissue so that it’s strong and healthy and vibrant. And also because it can function to protect the cells. And so to do that, we want to remove the acids. And bicarbonate is the chemical reaction that neutralizes acids and lets you get rid of them in the body.

MARTIN: Yeah, I’m just spinning in my head. You’re talking about pH of below six or whatever in the mouth. I’m just visualizing all the decline and mineralization and stuff like that. Right?

SPENCER: Sure. So there’s some other fun things we can talk about for bicarbonate. One is it removes fluoride. And fluoride is the toxin that the Nazis used in concentration camps to sedate the people in the concentration camps so they would become kind of like zombies and wouldn’t fight back. Destroys the ability to. It interferes with the parts of the brain associated with free will and spiritual connections. So we know that fluorine is being used in the water supplies, and it’s kind of hard not to, you buy organic vegetables and fruits and vegetables. Well, they’re probably, if they’re irrigating it with fluoridated water, you’re getting fluoride that way.

SPENCER: It’s hard to avoid it. But bicarbonates will displace fluoride. Bicarbonates also have a chelating effect. They can get rid of toxic metals, but there’s other things better for that. Now, to close on bicarbonate, I’ll tell you a personal story. So my first interest in bicarbonates was based on the work of Dr. Simoncini, who was using bicarbonate injections with cancer.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: And I wanted to find a way that people could do strong doses of bicarbonates without having to find a doctor to give them intravenous bicarbonate. Now, there’s a lot of ways you can get bicarbonate into the body. You can mix it in water and drink it. That’s baking soda. But then you neutralize the stomach acid. So that’s not good.

MARTIN: Yep. It just wipes out the digestion.

SPENCER: Right. You could take baths with it. You could take two cups of sodium bicarbonate and put it in a hot bath and soak in it. And that’s definitely better. But what I did as an experiment was, I injected some subcutaneously. I gave myself, I was trying to figure out how much bicarb can I take without it stinging. At 4.8% it is about as good.

SPENCER: And 8% hurts. So I injected it into lymph nodes in my groin on either side, like 20 ml of 4.8% sodium bicarbonate. And a couple of interesting things happened. So that evening, I woke up multiple times during the night with persistent and very strong erections. There’s no other way to say that. And I’m 55, so that’s not something that typically happens in your fifties. And that’s more a thing when you’re a much younger man. And so I woke up, and I’m like, what the heck was that about? That was like being a teenager.

SPENCER: And then I had to look it up. Is there any connection between erections and sodium bicarbonate? And indeed, there is. Another thing that happened is the lymph nodes. I’ve had some swollen lymph nodes in my groin for my whole life. And they started going down the first time in, like, 30, 40 years, which is a whole other conversation to have.
MARTIN: So this is a consequence of you injecting baking soda.

SPENCER: Subcutaneous liquid bicarbonate. Which I’m not suggesting people do, but I’m just giving you the story of how I came up with this, what I’m about to tell you. So I’m looking up, I’m like, bicarbonate and erections, what’s there in the literature? And this could be a whole talk on its own, but here it is. Okay, in order to get an erection, two things have to happen. And again, erections don’t just happen for men. Women have their own version internally, another conversation. So blood has to go into the penis, and that’s arterial, and then it has to not get out.

SPENCER: And that’s venous. So the blood goes in, and then as the blood goes in, it pinches off some veins, which keeps the blood from coming back out. Now, a great number of people have a degree of erectile dysfunction or impotence as they get older. A man who lives long enough is pretty much guaranteed to become impotent. It’s like 40% of men in their forties, 50% of men in their fifties, something like that. So it’s not a small thing. And a lot of guys won’t talk about it because they’re embarrassed about it. They won’t talk to their doctor about it.

MARTIN: Well, they go buy the blue pill and hope for the best.

SPENCER: Well, we’re going to talk about what that means, right? So I would divide it into saying that there’s two types of impotence. Right? There’s arterial, meaning the blood’s not getting in. And that’s sort of like if you imagine you have a flat tire in your car and you have a hand pump, but the pump doesn’t work, your tire’s not gonna get filled. That would be arterial.

MARTIN: You can’t fill it.

SPENCER: Right. It won’t fill it up. And that’s much more rare. Right? That’s associated with a much greater age, heart disease, diabetes, arterial blood issues. And for that, you could take a look at some of the arterial cardiovascular detox protocols we talk about. The far more common is the venous side, what I would call venous impotence or erectile dysfunction, where you are pumping the tire up, but the tires got a leak in it, and no matter how much air you put into the tire, it leaks out. And this is what most men experience.

MARTIN: Yes, you can get it up, but it won’t stay up.

SPENCER: Right. So this is what most men experience once they start getting older in their years and probably a lot younger than they’d like, is that their erections aren’t as strong because the pressure never builds. And it doesn’t last very long because it leaks out again. Now, what some people do is they’ll take either supplements or drugs to raise nitric oxide. Supplements could be like arginine and drugs. There’s a couple of drugs. It’s a $3 billion a year worldwide industry. There are special cells in the penis called smooth muscle cells that are involved in relaxing and allowing pressure to go against the vein to keep the blood from leaving. But we lose these cells every year. And when you lose about 15% of those cells, there’s not enough there to apply enough pressure to cause the erection to stay.

MARTIN: Yeah, you leak.

SPENCER: Right, right. You leak. Exactly. So what they try to do with these nitric oxide drugs is they try to, and the body does this itself also, to a degree, it tries to ramp up the nitric oxide to a point where it’ll kind of overcome that for a while. Here’s the problem. Nitric oxide has a dark side to it. It turns into one thing called peroxynitrite. And then there’s another thing, which is oxygen-nitrogen (ONOO-)

SPENCER: It’s a whole bunch of things. And if you look at the formula, and they haven’t named this thing, but it’s ONOO-. So I call it, “Oh no”.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah, that’s totally it. ONOO-, you have that.

SPENCER: The “oh no” chemical. So you don’t want peroxynitrite, and you don’t want the “oh no” chemical, because what these do is they’ll actually accelerate the destruction of the smooth muscle cells. So it’s a fly now, pay later plan. Right. If the reason that they ended up buying these things is they lost these smooth muscle cells with age, and then they’re taking the drug, which temporarily boosts them and gives them more nitric oxide at a cost of making these chemicals that then make you lose more of these smooth muscle cells.

SPENCER: And then, eventually then nothing.

MARTIN: So you have your moment of fun, and the next time, it’s going to be even harder to get it.

SPENCER: So here are some thoughts, right. One, there’s a very natural way to raise nitric oxide. Sodium bicarbonate raises nitric oxide in the body. And number two, we want to neutralize the peroxynitrite and the ONOO molecule, and sodium bicarbonate breaks down the peroxynitrite and the ONOO molecule. So if God ever gave us something for male sexual longevity. It’s baking soda.

MARTIN: So here’s a cheap trick, then. If you do use the blue pill, make sure that you follow it with?

SPENCER: Yes, Sodium bicarbonate. So you’re right there. So there’s three people that could consider taking sodium bicarbonate. And then I’ll tell you how to do this without injections. Okay. Number one, you’re a young man, you’re 20, you got a healthy sex life. You’ve got all of your smooth muscle cells, and you want to keep them because every time you get an erection, even naturally, without any kind of help, you’re getting nitric oxide, some of which is turning into peroxynitrite and the ONOO molecule. And slowly but surely losing some of those smooth muscle cells.

MARTIN: It’s like driving at 60,000 miles.

SPENCER: Right. So you’re hearing this, and you’re like, I’m 20, I’m 30. I’ve got great sexual vigor. Wonderful. Would you like to keep it? Sodium bicarb. Okay. The second group of people, they’re like, oh, well, yeah, I actually do take a little, I do take some drugs or some supplements. Okay. If that’s where you’re at, make sure you take some sodium bicarb with it so that when the nitric oxide, which has a very short half life, breaks down into peroxynitrite and the, ONOO molecule, you can neutralize those pretty darn quick, and you won’t make it any worse.

SPENCER: And then if people need even a little bit more help, there’s things called shockwave therapy, which can vibrate the tissue in the penis and bring in stem cells. But you have to make sure that you have enough testosterone in your body. Because if you do have testosterone, then these stem cells that are recruited become smooth muscle cells. And if you don’t have testosterone, they turn into fat cells, and that isn’t going to do anything for you. Yeah, you wasted your, well, you might have made it worse, because now you have fatty tissue in there. Okay. Right.

SPENCER: So sodium bicarbonate. So what do you do? You don’t need to inject sodium bicarbonate, but what we do want to take it into our body and slowly build our levels back up, because most people don’t want to eat like a stone age hunter-gatherer, I don’t think you want to be chewing on roots and vegetables and tubers for 90% of your food and then have a little bit of meat. We’re going to eat the way we want to eat. So to do that, we’re going to have to neutralize it. We have to raise our bicarb levels, which you can measure with the pH paper. Right? I wanted to take bicarb orally, which is the easiest way to do it.

SPENCER: But I didn’t want to wipe out my stomach acid. So what we did is we created a bicarb form that only opens up in the small intestine, which is where the liver and the pancreas are on their own dumping bicarb. So we’re mimicking how the body delivers bicarb to it.

MARTIN: Right. In the small intestine. Duodenum.

SPENCER: In the small intestine. Exactly. And someone might say, well, carnivores don’t do this. I’m like, yeah, they do. Carnivores get bicarb all the time. They’re eating the pancreas and the small intestine. That’s where all the bicarb is. It’s one of the first places they eat when they kill an animal.

MARTIN: Yeah. That’s the first thing they go after. They eat the guts.

SPENCER: Yeah. Right. Because that’s where all the bicarb is. Even animals know enough to do this as well. So, there’s a thousand reasons. And I haven’t even covered all the reasons why bicarb is important for the human body. It just goes on and on and on. It’s an incredibly overlooked deficiency.

SPENCER: And it’s incredibly easy to fix if you know how to do it. And you can monitor it. You can see for yourself: “Wow. Look! My saliva pH is 6.6. Hey now it’s 6.8.”

SPENCER: And all of a sudden, look what’s going on with my blood pressure. And I think I’m losing a little bit of weight. And the triglycerides are normalizing. And, oh, my God, my sex life is better. So bicarb is an important aspect of living a long and vital life.

MARTIN: And so the secret is the delivery.

SPENCER: Right. So we make a product called Bicarbamet, which is the potassium and sodium bicarbonates. In a way that they only release in the small intestine where we want them to. So you don’t wipe out your stomach acid. It mimics how the body naturally gives you bicarb.

MARTIN: Right. So it’s the packaging. It’s like having it in a capsule that will survive the stomach and then release right after that.

SPENCER: That’s the idea. We want it released over the course of the small intestine. So there’s ways in which we’ve got a special proprietary technology to release it in the way that I feel is the way it should be released at the place I want it released to. And then what happens is the body actually will reabsorb it at the end of the small intestine. It wants bicarb so badly that it’ll actually try to reabsorb most of the bicarb that is released at the top of the small intestine will reabsorb it back at the bottom. But most of us are so short on bicarb. And, yeah, it’s an important thing to understand how to have your optimal life.

MARTIN: So here’s an interesting sidebar. Sodium chloride is an important mineral, and doctors have been telling people to use less of it. But in fact, the Cl, the chloride is used in the stomach to make hydrochloric acid. And the Na, the sodium is used in your pancreas to build more sodium bicarbonate.

SPENCER: There was a study a while ago that said, oh no, look, we’re seeing blood pressure disorders with people that eat salt, and it was debunked. And what we now know is, yes, there are some people that have a reaction to salt, and there’s lots of people with high blood pressure, and there’s lots of people that don’t. And so unless you’re one of those people that when you take salt, your blood pressure skyrockets. Salt actually is incredibly important.

MARTIN: Needed.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. Is there much more to say about this?

SPENCER: Oh, sure. Hours.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. Take what? Take one with meals, or how do you do it?

SPENCER: Right. So what you’re going to do is you’re going to start one with meals, and you’re going to watch your saliva and your urine pH, and you’re going to raise it up until you get to the pH you like. Or if you’re getting too alkaline, back off a little bit and just wait. Because you’ve got 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years of acids to dump. Right. There’s no need to push it all out in one weekend. So you’re going to raise it up, reactable. Right.

MARTIN: You will have a bad reaction to it.

SPENCER: You can get too far the other way. Balance in everything. So you’re going to slowly increase the levels as your body allows you to. Watching your saliva and your urine pH. And then based on when that starts to normalize, you can slowly start to back off until you find the number you need to take; that equals,

SPENCER: So at that point in time you’ve cleared all the acids out of your tissue, and you’ve built up your bicarbonates. When you clear all the acids, your urine pH comes up. When you build your bicarbonate stores, the saliva pH comes up. And when those are both good and stable, then what you’re doing is you can back it down a little bit and find the amount of bicarb you need to neutralize the way you choose to eat. Right. If you say, hey, you know what? I like to eat really acid foods and I’m not going to stop. Have at it, you’re just going to need a little bit more bicarb. If you say, I’m not a really big fan of grains and beans and meat. I’m mostly vegetarian, and I drink lots of vegetable juice, you won’t need much at all.

MARTIN: Yeah. There’s an interesting side effect to this. Your bones will get heavier, so you will actually be weighing more as your minerals are starting to get stored instead of dumped.

SPENCER: Right. Right. So the body will rob calcium from the bones to alkalinize itself. There’s a lot of emergency responses. The body has to metabolic acidosis.

MARTIN: What I’m pointing at is that when you weigh yourself on a scale, you will actually be heavier while becoming slimmer because you will be restoring your mineral stores. I mean, it’s not huge. It’s five pounds or whatever, but it’s going to make a difference. And, of course, well, especially women. But pretty much all old folks have this thinning bone problem that will likely reverse.

SPENCER: I don’t think it’s realistic or even desirable to eat like a Stone age person. No, but I do want Stone Age health.

MARTIN: Well, you know, stone age people died at age 37 or 38.

SPENCER: Well, yeah. I mean, well, what you have is a split. Right? You have people who died because they got injuries. But you also had guys, people who made it out to 80. And I’ll give you an example. If you take a look at wild animals, not the ones that are being fed laboratory chow or dog or pet food, other than looking at the receding of their gums, it can be very hard to tell how old they are.

SPENCER: Animals don’t age like humans. Aging the way humans experience it, or human pets experience. It is a very human phenomenon in the animal kingdom. A lot of animals, when they get older, they’re still vital and strong and capable.

MARTIN: They go all the way until it’s over, and then it’s over.

MARTIN: Right. And that’s how I’d like to go. I believe that much of what we’re seeing in human aging and the lack of that in animal aging is the bicarbonate levels.

SPENCER: So when I say I want to age like a stone age man, I don’t want to die by a saber toothed tiger. I want to age like a successful stone age guy who, who’s made it out to 80, strong as an ox, still has good vision, sharp mind, and is still sexually active. And then 80, 90s, like, all right, that’s it. Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. I would love to die surfing at 96.

SPENCER: That sounds great.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay, so the dosage is clear. This one does not have to be refrigerated or, yes?

SPENCER: So, no. But some of the tech we have in there to do what we’re trying to do would do better in a cold or.

MARTIN: Okay, so keep it cold. All right, so one to two to three. What’s the limit?

SPENCER: Well, the limit is how you feel, right? Everybody’s different. So you start with one. You look at your saliva and your urine pH. You could try a second one. And as long as you don’t feel bad from it, you can keep going up until the point where you’re like, okay, that’s too much. That doesn’t feel good.

MARTIN: Awesome. I’m looking forward to living my stone age man life. Really. It’s awesome. I have been puzzled by this because it’s really hard to get bicarbs into the body. People don’t realize it. We have been looking for something that is of this sort. We actually have had a supplement that tries to deliver bicarbonates, but it’s been kind of iffy.

MARTIN: This way is promising. Very promising.

SPENCER: Yeah. When I had the aha moment, I’m like, oh, my God, we could do it like this. I was so excited because, I mean, I can do injections. I’ll do subcutaneous bicarb injections for myself. But what do I do for my 80 year old mother who’s 3000 miles away? What do I do for clients? What do I do for friends and family? They’re not going to have access to the medical equipment I’ve got. And once I realized that we could do this, I was on cloud nine.

MARTIN: This is a major physiological breakthrough of the modern technological or industrial age man. Figuring out how to actually bridge the gap.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: Now I really understand your excitement about it. Okay, Bicarbamet. This has been Spencer Feldman from Remedylink and Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com, by phone at (866) 543-3388. And thank you, Spencer.

SPENCER: Thanks, Martin.

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Podcast 481: Arthritis

In today’s episode, Martin delves deep into the complex world of inflammation, revealing its root causes and examining powerful, evidence-based strategies to help relieve symptoms. Join Martin as he breaks down the science of inflammation and arthritis, providing clear insights and practical tips to help you take control of your health.

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Good morning. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast. Today’s topic I wanted to raise arthritis. Arthritis is an interesting word. Itis, otis, etes, at the end of a word in medical terminology, signifies or means inflammatory. Like diabetes is an inflammation, otitis media would be the infection of the middle ear. Gastritis would be inflammation in the gastric stomach. Colitis would be the inflammation of the colon, and on and on and on. Names like that. So arthritis specifically is the inflammation in the joints.

The mainstream medical people like to use geography to name things. They do not concern themselves with the cause of the disease. They just simply describe it as where it is and what the symptom is, which is very deceptive, because it causes the illusion that the illness is caused by where the symptoms are. But sort of like a mushroom – if you go in the forest and see the fruiting body of a mushroom that pops up somewhere, that is just the reproductive organ of the mycelium, and you have this mycelium throughout under the ground, around the roots. And then this thing just pops up. That’s just where it reproduces. That’s just where it shows its face. Or maybe another metaphor I would use would be an iceberg where you see an iceberg, whatever you see above water, that’s only 10% of the total mass of the thing. Arthritis as such, of course, is a nasty thing because it makes us uncomfortable, gives us pain.

In its latter stages, it causes a great deal of discomfort and loss of mobility. That’s the story with inflammation. It has five important symptoms. Redness, swelling, heat, pain, and importantly, loss of function. Of course the acute that’s that’s easy right. Like you twist your ankle, you can’t step on it because it’s painful. It’s there for a reason. The pain is there so you stop using it. You can’t use it, that’s the loss of function. It swells up because the cells are broken and fluids are filling in and making it swollen, and the redness, well, sometimes you can’t see because it’s on the inside, but the swelling is obvious. And the heat, it’s there because with heat the body can restore cells, replace the bad or worn out damaged ones with good ones. Now, in case of arthritis you will see swelling of the joints, like for example, you can see it on the fingers. You would see that the knuckle will swell in size. When you see that, then that’s a sure sign of arthritis. On the knee, it’s often obvious because it’s a swollen knee. On the hip it’s seldom as obvious because it’s inside, hidden by a lot of flesh, but all the same, it’ll give you discomfort. It’ll give you an inability to move. But before we get to that stage, the body process that takes us there is running. And it’s running for a good while before you go all the way to loss of function and the early stages, we call it stiffness on rising.

You could probably relate, if you’re taking a drive in an automobile, you’re sitting in the same position for maybe an hour or two. And then when you try to get up or out of the seat, it takes you two, 4 or 6 steps before you can straighten out, before you can start moving. This same thing is also experienced, like you’re sitting in a chair, reading a book or watching something on television, and then you get to get up. Now young folk, they just leap up and run. The older folk, they get out of the chair, and then they slowly kind of straighten out and move a little. And then after about 3 or 4 steps, they’re kind of able to walk straight. Well, this stiffness on rising is essentially a sign of body-wide inflammation underway. Well, it may end up in arthritis, but it may end up in other symptoms too, right? Because the process that’s behind it, which is inflammatory in general, is caused by either lack of circulation that would be stagnation or it’s caused by toxicity, presence of things that should not be there, or malnutrition, which would be absence of things that should be there, but aren’t. And the toxicity that could be of two kinds. That could be the metabolic toxicity, which would be your body’s inability to just maintain the life processes themselves and becoming self-toxified by not cleansing well enough.

And then the second part would be the industrial, external toxicity, which has a little to do with the metabolism itself. It just arrives and stays because the detox pathways are not able to get rid of it well enough. All the same, it just is. So if we go back to the geography, we can start thinking that we could have arthritis in the neck, or we could have a pain in the head where it gets to be a headache or a migraine or something like that. Or we could have arthritic stuff happening anywhere on any bone. And some of it has to do with calcification. The two minerals that control the autonomic nervous system are calcium and magnesium.

Calcium activates the fight or flight, Magnesium activates the rest and repair – sympathetic and parasympathetic. And when there’s not enough Magnesium, calcium when it’s taken out of places, wherever it may be. The most obvious storage place for calcium is the bone. The large bones of the body, the femur, the pelvis, but all the other bones as well. So the calcium is stored in the bones of your body. It comes out of solution when it’s needed for whatever physiological effects for functioning. And then when it’s not needed, it should be returned back into the bone. But oftentimes because of imbalances, it’s deposited in wrong places. You end up with bone spurs or bumps, or instead of the bone being smooth, it’s got little bumps in the wrong places.

Having enough magnesium is important because it supports the return to the parasympathetic, the repair. It also, magnesium, if you could think of the bone as a brick wall, the magnesium molecules would be like the mortar and the calcium molecules would be like bricks. Maybe I should call them ions, since that would be more appropriate. The magnesium ions would be the mortar and the calcium ions would be the bricks. Then the reason I’m saying ions is because these ions, when they are in solution, they are moving freely and they have electric charge on them. I’ll give you an example. For example, salt, you put salt in water and it dissolves. And salt is sodium chloride NaCl, one atom of sodium, one atom of chlorine. They are joined together to form sodium chloride. What’s interesting is that sodium by itself, sodium metal Na2 is super reactive and highly toxic, but as an ion, it’s not. Similarly, chlorine, chlorine is Cl2. Chlorine gas is exceedingly toxic and very harmful. And yet the single ion of chlorine, chloride now, is really important and involved in great many transactions, metabolic functions in the body. One of them is the regulation of the oxygen and carbon dioxide levels in the tissue. Calcium and magnesium containing mineral is dolomite, which is a combination of calcium carbonate and magnesium carbonate, which is CaCO3 and MgCO3. [Note: it is written as CaMg(CO3)2]

And CO3, that’s actually the carbonic acid ion. So when you take them apart, you have carbonic acid and you have the calcium ion. And the carbonic acid can be taken apart into water and carbon dioxide. That’s how this works in the body, is that you can actually become more acidic by pulling more CO2 into yourself into solution, and then becoming less acidic by getting rid of that CO2. And there’s a very simple method for that. It’s called breathing. So as you exhale you can exhale more and more of this carbon dioxide and get rid of it. And that way you get rid of a lot of acidity.

The other way you get rid of acidity is that your body can make baking soda. Your pancreas makes that. Anyway, again, combination of hydrogen, carbon dioxide and sodium bicarbonate comes out of your body. So that’s another way of getting rid of acidity. But the minerals calcium and magnesium are actually the alkalizing minerals. They are involved in keeping your body alkaline.

So where am I headed with this? With arthritis, you are getting inflammation in the joint for one of many reasons. As I listed it, it could be toxicity, it could be lack of circulation, lack of movement. It’s bizarre right? That the best thing you can do for arthritis is to actually move the joint. But you also need to not be in pain. So what would you do in the for a shortcut? Well, if you’re in pain here now, three things, one, you need better water. You need more water in the body. And it should be the structured water that allows you to move things around. You need some kind of a transport mechanism to move the minerals, to move all the tissues. And structured water helps. And that’s where we come with the devices that help us do that. You can find that category in the Home and Skincare. But anyway, devices for water and food or structured water, you can buy structured water ready to use or you can use a device to make your own. Actually, I have a device right here. This thing is called ADR-4 and it’s a simple disc. You can see it’s about five inches in diameter or about half inch thick, about my fingers’ thickness. And whatever you put on top of it like an example is going to get structured, harmonized. And the other tool I have, you can see these in the bottom of this bottle. These are ceramic blobs that we sell in the store as Crystal Pearls. And the crystal pearls are able to break up and discharge the energies that are causing water to cluster, thereby causing it to be more absorbable and thereby being better able to carry nutrients in and toxins out. Important, right?

The other part is getting the balance right between calcium and magnesium. For the most part, in most people the balance is too much calcium, not enough magnesium.

There are some people who need more calcium, but most seem to get enough from food. What there is a lack of is Magnesium in food, and so supplementing that is very wise, especially if you’re suffering from stiffness on rising or enlarged joints and the likes. So that would be the mineralization. And that’s super important because when you get that balance off, then you need to have the nutrients that can bring the balance back in.

The second common reasoning on that is the inflammation that comes from the food we eat. The most common foods that people have joint issues from are called nightshades, solanaceae. Solanine is the alkaloid and you probably have heard about leptins. These are made in the plants with the intention of hurting you, the person or the animal that’s ingesting them so that you don’t eat too much of it. Because if you eat too much of it, you’re essentially overharvesting the resource. And that plant is allowing itself to be eaten, but doesn’t want to be completely eaten or eaten in excess because that would cause it to die off.

I just see that in the chat there are a couple of questions, so I’m going to answer those. So returning back to the water, do the Prills and Pearls make the water structured? The structuring of the water is that every molecule of water is a polar molecule. It has a H and an OH and the positive and the negative. So it acts as a miniature magnet. And this magnet strength is related to how the angle between the two hydrogens is wide or the width of the angle. And so if you could visualize the water molecule, it would be like if you draw a cartoon of a Mickey mouse head, this would be the head, and the two atoms of hydrogen would be sitting on top one here and one here. And the angle of it either widens or narrows. And if it narrows, the magnetic field goes down. And if it widens, the magnetic field goes up. And the structuring that we’re talking about has to do with the electric potential that is in the water. And as we use these ceramic devices, we’re discharging the stored potential, which causes the water to become less charged and the latent water crystals fall apart and the cluster size of the water decreases, thereby making it more hydrating at the cellular level and also making it more alkaline, making it more ORP into the alkaline again into the negative voltage which is more compatible with the human body. Your ORP at the cells should be -25 milliVolt. That would be the natural electric potential of the cell. And when you go into inflammation, you push it all the way to -50 or 70 milliVolt. And when you push toward cancer, you cross over from the negative into the positive. And at about plus 20 milliVolt, the cells start losing their integrity. They start losing their ability to continue to exist as a functioning cell. So it’s a fairly narrow range.

And the other question here is about the ADR. This ADR-4, it’s harmonizing the water. It takes maybe two or three minutes. Like, if you put a bottle this size on it, you need about two minutes. Bottle of wine, maybe five minutes on the plate. And then the water in this vessel that you put on top of it is harmonized. And it will remain that way for some time. The warmer the fluid, the faster it’s processed when you put it on the plate, but also the faster it returns into random because the water molecules move quicker and they start bumping into one another and start building or losing the harmony again, I would say maybe a day you have a day or two, and if you put it in the fridge maybe three days before, the water is kind of back to as it was random rather than organized. Although we have found that we can, and we do make the water so structured that it seems to last for months afterwards. We sell this thing called magic water. Yeah, that’s what it’s called, magic water. And that seems to last indefinitely.

Now let’s talk about what happens, why? So it could be an injury. Wherever there is an injury like you twist your ankle, that’s probably going to be the arthritic the soonest. And if you start getting arthritis or you either tear it or overuse it in an activity and you end up with some sort of injury, some sort of a repair, and the repairs that the body makes are not necessarily done with the native cells. It is often done with fibrin, which is the scar tissue. So as we go along, we may become more and more stiff because the repairs are more and more extensive, and these repairs could be happening in your arteries, making your blood vessels stiffer. They could be happening in your joints, making your joints stiffer, or any other soft tissue.

And like fibromyalgia, it is a famous name. It is another interesting word, right? Algia or alg that has to do with pain. And fibro. That’s fibrosis or fibro tissue. And myo that’s like anything muscle. There you have it, right? Muscles bound up with fibers giving you pain. That’s the plain translation of the fancy word fibromyalgia. Anyway, why am I up on that? Well, so the fiber is binding things up. It’s stiffening things. So undoing that would logically lead to reducing the stiffness of things. And for that we have fibrinolytic enzymes. The most famous one of the lot is, or the most commonly used one is Serrapeptase or serrapeptidase. We have that in several products, Zymitol, Vitalzym, Fibrenza. These products are very effective and efficient at helping to undo the damage done through injuries and repairs. So if you end up with what’s known as calculus, calculus means calcium deposits in the wrong place. Like you probably are familiar with calculus on your teeth. When you go for dental hygienist cleaning of the teeth. They are scraping this calculus off of your teeth because it’s the calcification that’s a deposit that causes some irritation to the gum. And if it’s at the gum line, the gum line starts receding in reaction to the calcium deposits. And that’s most undesirable because you need to keep the gum line as high on the tooth as possible. That’s the calcification, that’s the calculus.

Well, you can have that same thing happening on a joint, like for example, this joint here. If the calculi are depositing, you’re starting to see a swelling of the joint. And we do have a really interesting product called Arthritis-Ease, which is very good at stimulating the body to undo this calcification. And you’ll speed it up even more if you raise the available Magnesium, because Calcium and Magnesium are each other’s antagonists. So when you push the magnesium, that will also speed up the removal of calcium from places where it shouldn’t be and moving it to places where it should be.

There’s one other one called TMJ-Ease temporomandibular joint. That’s the joint that you would find just in front of your ear down here. If you open your mouth, you will feel where that joint is. And that joint, some people end up with calcification there, and that happens because of some misalignments, right? Like if you have a misaligned bite or something else going on grinding teeth, tension, you may end up with inflammation in this joint, TMJ. And if you have that, it can be exceedingly painful. And the TMJ-Ease is a herbal tincture that helps us reduce that calcification, thereby reducing the friction, thereby improving the function and so on. But it doesn’t fix the mechanical problem. So if you develop that problem because of a misalignment, you need to first have a bite adjusted to make it work. Or you may need to get rid of your grinding of the teeth.

Speaking of which, two major causes, one of them is parasites. If you’re finding yourself grinding your teeth at night, you may have parasites that you should get rid of. And the other one is tension. Just unresolved stress and anxiety. Taking a Magnesium soak before bedtime, foot soak or bath soak is a grand idea, because it will help to relax you and your body and help you sleep. I was actually in the middle of mentioning the Solanaceae when I bumped into a sidebar. The nightshade plants for some reason affect the joints more than anything. These plants are, the common ones are potato as in white potato, not a sweet potato, but just a white potato.

Which actually could be red and purple. Tomato, eggplant, bell pepper which could be green, yellow or red cayenne pepper. Same deal, chili pepper. And of the more exotic ashwagandha is on the list, goji berry is on that list, so there’s a bunch of them, but the most common ones are the ones I just mentioned. So for example, a Greek salad with tomatoes and bell peppers is definitely and tomatoes on the side. That’s a nice heavy hit of the nightshades. Now, what’s interesting is that nightshade plants were not in Europe until the 1700s. Tomatoes and potatoes were imported from America. So even though they became the staple diet, not that many generations back, there was no exposure to them. But the best way to find out if you have a lot of European heritage rather than Aztec, native Mexican or Peruvian, if you don’t have that genetic heritage and you likely don’t, because poor Incas, after the visitation of the Spanish conquistadors in first visitation 1490, so it would be early 1500s. When the Spaniards showed up on the west coast of South America, the Incan empire was strong, but they brought with it smallpox, and the smallpox was deadly, and the Incas had no immune defenses against it. The Europeans had the smallpox infections, and they had natural immunity all along. So anyway, 94 out of 100 died, which was awful. Anyway, point is, so try two months, maybe three, without nightshade plants in your diet if you’re having arthritic issues and you will find yourself possibly pain free.

The other common irritant is grain, wheat. So if the nightshades didn’t cut it, try eliminating gluten from your diet. That would be especially wheat. But you need to be a very good detective these days to discover what is or is not gluten free. Gluten these days is found in many things. It’s in ketchup, it’s in mustard, it’s in all kinds of other condiments. And of course, it’s in all the baked goods. Unless you specifically buy something that’s gluten free. But a lot of these gluten free flours will have potato starch in it, which may trigger you with the potato. So you need to kind of pay attention.

There are three things about grains. Number one, they are estrogen promoting until they’re sprouted. So we want to be using sprouted grains rather than not sprouted when we make baked goods. Ezekiel bread is made with sprouted grain and it’s also an unleavened bread, so there’s no yeast in it. So there’s a good chance that it’s healthier for you, but it should be made with organic grains rather than with the ones that have been treated with glyphosate. Because if you use regular grain, you may have a problem. And if you have a gluten problem, then even Ezekiel bread is going to be bad for you. So if you’re okay with wheat and if you use a decent grain, then the Ezekiel bread is the best option.

The other good option is called sourdough. Sourdough is also reducing the negative effects of the grains that it would have on us. So those two would be great. So sourdough is made with sprouted grains or Ezekiel style. As time goes, as we age, we typically lose our ability to repair. The immune system does decline somewhat. The way it works in the human body is that you have the villi in the small intestine, and the villi are covered with a single cell layer of a protective permeable barrier. And this barrier is keeping the sensitive inside from the assaults of the dirty or non-sterile outside. So if you visualize your mouth, it’s the beginning of the pipe that goes through your body, esophagus, stomach, small intestine, large intestine, and out. That actually is the outside running through the middle of you. So when you ingest food, the food is outside and it’s got bacteria on it and it’s got nematodes on it and maybe fungus. And it may have all kinds of things, some which are useful nutrients, but some which are toxins. And in the process of digesting it, the system is supposed to sort it out and allow only the stuff that we want to come and pass through the villi into the bloodstream, and everything else should be in that brown banana that you push out of your anus every day, hopefully every day.

So if the small intestine gets damaged, the covering is really only one cell thick.

So wheat with its gluten and its zonulin tends to punch holes in this covering. So it’s as if there was a separation, right? Like all of a sudden, there’s this gap that allows stuff to come through all the way down. By down I mean all the way into the bloodstream. So that allows under digested bits, clusters of amino acids, peptides, bits of protein that they get into the bloodstream. And all of a sudden the non-me, the foreign external stuff that shouldn’t be there is circulating. And your immune system has to deal with it. Well your liver, your kidneys, your immunity and all of that, that all gets affected.

So I remember I could eat wheat until about 15 years ago. Yeah, that would have been what it was 15 years ago, 2005 or so. Yeah, about then, and then I started having health problems from it. So I stopped eating it. And then I went on a business trip to Italy, I think it was 2012. Yeah, 2012. So I was well into not being able to eat wheat. And in Italy you get the spaghetti and you get the bread and whatever, whatever. And I thought, well, what the heck, I’m here only for three days. I just have to eat something. So I ate the Italian wheat. Nothing happened. So I’m asking my host, tell me about Italian wheat.

And he said: “Grano, which is the Italian word for grain in Italy, is defined as the old wheat that is still four feet tall when it’s grown, not the 18 inch hybridized selected stuff that’s grown in North America. And it only has 6% of gluten and not 13 as it has in America. The researchers here were so proud of themselves, telling us that they have created varieties that have more protein in it, as if we needed it. Also, in Italy, they’re not allowed to use herbicides and pesticides, so it’s naturally organic. So I experienced it myself. No problem eating Italian. I surely hope to God that they get to keep that rather than getting overrun by the World Trade Organization, and it’s machine that causes the others to push their engineering ideas onto others. So I’m contemplating moving to Italy or importing Italian pasta or Italian flour. I should try, I don’t know, I have been afraid to try because the side effects are usually not fun. My face breaks out, I hurt and all that. So not funny.

The other thing that you should be aware of is glyphosate. Roundup, as such, is used on wheat fields in America now to not control weeds because herbicide that’s a weed control, right? But in wheat they don’t control the weeds. What they do is they spray it on just before harvest because in the process of killing the plant, as the wheat is dying, it’s pushing maximum energy into the seed, trying to preserve the next generation.

So it increases the yield, and it also dries the plant. And as the plant dries up uniformly, it makes it easier to harvest. So they spray it. And then a few days later they come in with the combine harvesters, harvest it and put it away.

And there’s only a trace amount of this glyphosate on the grain, but it is enough to accumulate and cause damage in our gut. It doesn’t kill the human cells, but it kills the microbes that live inside our guts. And that is a major problem because with the microbial terrain breaking down, we are seeing more and more inflammatory disease. And that’s what this is. There used to be 1 or 2% people in the society with an inflammatory disease long ago. Now 40, 50% of people now have one or more inflammatory conditions.

I mean, it starts with circulatory health, right? Like, if you have inflammation of the cardiovascular system, especially vascular, that would be vasculitis, right? That would be stiffening of the arteries. With it comes either high blood pressure or less effective heartbeats and less effective thinking because there’s not enough oxygen getting to tissues. So that’s number one. And then number two would be all these illnesses of the structure. And that, my dear friends, should be the end of the sermon today. Thank you for being here. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast, life-enthusiast.com

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Podcast 480: Pregnancy

When people learn they’re expecting a baby, they often focus on planning the nursery decor or choosing outfits for their newborn. While these aspects are significant, what’s even more essential is to focus on cleansing your body, mind, and spirit before conception and to follow the right steps during pregnancy to guarantee your baby’s health and well-being. Remember, your body is a sacred temple. You should treat it as such.

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Good day, everyone. This is Martin Pytela, health coach at Life Enthusiast. So I thought it’s a good idea to talk about the issues that are leading up to pregnancy, going through pregnancy, and dealing with little children. I think that would be a good thing. So now to the talk, right? As I was contemplating this, I’m realizing that I was actually involved in helping my daughter with managing her health before pregnancy. The way I see this, and I think I’m not wrong about it, is that nature in genetics wants to promote, right? Like we as a species exist because we have a limited lifespan of maybe, let’s just say a hundred years of which we are in reproductive years, somewhere between 18 and 35. So that’s the optimal window. These days, people have been pushing it back. So these days, the first child isn’t born to an 18-year-old, it’s born to a 27 or 33-year-old. In the old days, before contraception and before modern days and jobs and stuff, visualize a village in the year 1200, somewhere in Europe, the typical couple living in a village.

They marry, they start having children. The natural protection of breastfeeding keeps the woman not conceiving for about two years. Sometimes it breaks through, but most times it’s that so every other year she gets pregnant. So between the age of 18 and 36, she probably has been pregnant nine times. Sometimes she loses the pregnancy because that’s normal, that’s nature. Sometimes she loses the infant. Again, that’s nature. So I would visualize that she may have a dozen of pregnancies that she will take to term in her reproductive years, but only maybe four or five of them will grow up into their reproductive age because there was poor hygiene. So anyone, any child, any infant that was not strong or that was unlucky with the arrival of some sort of an infection, they would succumb. They would die. In Roman times, like 2000 years ago, they didn’t even bother naming infants until they were two years old. The attritional rate was pretty high. Charles Darwin, his first five kids died tragically of typhoid fever. So what we have here is a cycle where nature wants to promote our DNA, right? We are reproducing by being motivated to make babies and only the strong survive. So as it rolls forward, only the most adapted to the local environment are making it, are living into their reproductive years.

And I believe that nature treats the mother as the precious resource and treats the fetus, the child, as something that’s not precious at all. And so the placenta is in fact used as a detox organ during the pregnancy. So whatever toxicity exists in the mother is actually pushed into the placenta during the pregnancy. And then through that, it’s passed on to the child. And the big deal to me is that we humans evolved in a pristine natural environment. We are not designed to deal with the industrial environment that has risen around us since the Industrial Revolution, which started around the year 1750, 1775, the invention of steam engine, 1820, the beginnings of industrial mills, cotton mills and stuff, steam engines, coal burning and so on.

1890s, gasoline and petroleum, 1910 arrival of automobiles, 1920s arrival of radio, 1930s arrival of television and all of these things, chemical industry, right? When did that really start? The petroleum age was in the 1920s, 30s. The chemical plastic age started in earnest after World War II, which also is the age when industrial fertilizers were introduced and heavily used. And with each succeeding generation, the toxicity increases. I’ll demonstrate it this way. We are told that tuna, which is the largest, one of the largest predators in the ocean, well in the ocean everybody’s a predator, little fish eat plankton and medium fish eat little fish and large fish eat medium fish and the largest fish eats the large fish. So that’s where tuna comes in, right? Tuna comes in at 600 kilos, 1200 pounds or something like that. The large tuna, right? The toxicity of the ocean that has been released by us humans into the estuaries, right? The little fish and the plankton are living mostly closest to the shore that’s the safest, shallow waters, but also wherever the rivers spill toward the ocean or into the ocean, they carry with it all the pollution that’s upstream from the rivers. So the oceans are most toxic in the estuaries or at the mouth of rivers, especially large rivers. So as the fish eat the smaller ones, they accumulate all the toxicity that has been accumulated by the smallest ones. And there is no detoxification pathway, for example, for mercury. So the mercury accumulates in the larger fish. Therefore tuna is most contaminated of all possibilities, of all the species. So when we eat tuna, because after all it’s lovely, tastes great, and it’s abundant, or at least used to be.

We are also at the same time eating the most contaminated fish, the most contamination with mercury. Anyway, so this example is to show you how with each size step up, we’re ending up with more of the toxicity because it concentrates. Likewise, with the generational move or generational transmission, a woman living in Saint Bourne in 1870 gives birth in, say, 1900 to a child with the accumulation of whatever was in her body. Well, that child gives birth in 1925 with the accumulation of whatever she has accumulated in her lifetime, which then gives us the next generation being born around 1950 with the accumulation of all of that. And then 1975 accumulating into that. And then the year 2000.

And now 2025, that’s the next generation in that line, is essentially accumulating everything that each of these people have accumulated in their lifetime. And that’s how, for example, we’re seeing this incredible rise in autism or ADD or other neurological problems, because these things are happening because of toxicity, because of the disruption of the nervous system. And the biggest disruptors are mercury, lead, cadmium, and then volatile organic compounds, stuff that’s in fire retardants that are put on our fabrics or in dry cleaner fluids or in rocket fuel that rains upon us or in herbicides that are put on our foods and paints and paint thinners and makeup and whatever there are thousands upon thousands of different chemicals that are made now that didn’t exist in the environment in which we evolved. Like out there in somewhere in the savanna or in the bush, wherever that is, these chemicals didn’t exist. So now these things are accumulating. So when you have a pregnancy and the woman already carries a bunch of toxins, all of these are passed to the child.

And of course, we have changed how things are done in the industrialized society. We don’t just throw away these children. We actually save every one of them. And especially the first and second born, which for many women are all of them that they, that she’ll ever have. They are the most toxic. So we’re introducing a double whammy. We’re retaining the toxicity and we’re retaining the genetic mutations.

So we are very quickly driving this system that previously was designed to drop and eliminate anything that was less than perfect. And we’re instead keeping all of the mutations as they’re happening and we’re increasing the level of toxicity and with it, and it’s a geometric rise. To explain, for example, there’s this concept called LD50, which stands for lethal dose

50 is when half of the people or half of the creatures to whom we give the lethal dose will die. So LD50 means that out of 150 will be dead. So let’s just say that LD150 for Mercury, no, never mind, I’ll give you a better number. I’ll go with LD1. That means that one person in a hundred would die of the dose, only the weakest. Anyway, so let’s just take an LD1 of Mercury and combine it with LD1 of lead. You would kind of think that those two combined would possibly kill two out of 100. But that’s not what happens. It kills 100, all of them, because the combination of the two things is so potent that it will, in fact, go from minimal to maximum. Boom, just like that. And this is the fallacy of the medical system and the science world as we have it now because they all want to test things in isolation. The scientific, and I really put air quotes on that, method is trying to isolate individual variables. And so they would study the thing that they’re studying in isolation. So they will study the mercury toxicity in isolation, ignoring all things around it. And as they go, they are just not seeing the big picture. They’re not seeing how the fabric of life is interacting. And so we introduce yet another thing, yet another thing, and so on, other chemicals. And we just take it through a test tube on individual cells, and then maybe we do some testing on mice, and we test it only for 90 days. And we say, okay, this is good. Let’s go push it into the open world, which is also the same sort of method with which they have been testing the immunizations. They have never tested the consequent effects of doing multiples. They just take one and test it against nothing as opposed to testing everything in context. And so we end up with what I believe is very inadequate understanding of just how complex this is and what the consequences are. But we are living with these consequences. I believe that we’re heading in a very bizarre direction where one becoming pregnant is going to be increasingly difficult because as you have more toxic men, their sperm motility is going down and the presence of plastics or estrogenicity is driving their testosterone level down, which causes lower motility. Maybe that’s not directly related, but it’s observable lower motility of the sperm. So they’re A less interested in sex. B the sperm that they put out is less alive. Three, there’s more mutations. So from men’s side, the ability to have children is lower. On women’s side, there are all kinds of disruptions too, right? There’s the problem with their ability to actually bring an egg. You know, we have this inflammatory issues, estrogen progesterone balances. And then once you have a pregnancy established, well, it’s having difficult time getting established, so there are miscarriages. I mean, these days, one in five couples is already not able to conceive in the industrialized society. So the ability to conceive, the ability to carry to term, the issue at birth that you’re giving birth to damaged children. And then of course, the issue of dealing with children that are not neurotypical children that are damaged, that are requiring extra care. Right. We used to, I don’t know, when I was a kid the incidence of autism or something on that spectrum was one in 10,000 right now it’s somewhere around one in 40 or something like that.

That’s a phenomenal increase. If this continues and it may, you will end up with everybody being on the spectrum. And the next generation, you would have the less damaged ones looking after the more damaged ones and who’s going to actually do the work? Who’s actually going to be doing anything that helps the society carry forward? We just may come to a grinding halt because there just isn’t anybody who can go out into the field and grow the food. Speaking of growing food, growing food with fertilizers and herbicides and pesticides is terribly damaging to people who work there. So will their children be like, and will there be any to actually do the work? Never mind the fact that the product, the damaged toxic product they’re bringing out for us to eat is damaging to us.

Okay, so what can a person do with it or about it, right? Like this is not funny. So it’s my suggestion that anyone who’s contemplating pregnancy, becoming a parent, should be doing detoxification, serious detoxification. We need to get rid of all of the damage. There are two types of toxins, water-soluble and fat-soluble. The water-soluble ones have an immediate impact, but you’re able to eliminate that. So if you survive it, it’s gone from your body two to five days. Like you flush it out, it gets washed out. But if it’s fat-soluble, that’s a whole different story because your cell membrane is a bilipid layer. So every cell in your body is in fact, the outside surface is made of lipids fat. So as this fat-soluble material arrives, it is able to penetrate inside cells. So it’s able to get in. And of course, the body has to defend against it very vigorously. And it tries to do that by pushing the toxins out of the major organs protecting itself from damage. So it goes into fat cells, but it also goes into joints, cartilage, and bones, but also your brain is made of fat. So a lot of this ends up in your brain. When this stuff gets released later in life, that’s when you end up with dementia and rapid aging and all of that sort of trouble. Like osteoporosis, for example, is the process of releasing mineralization out of the bones into circulation as it’s trying to buffer the pH imbalance in the body fluids. Well, as you’re releasing the stuff that was stored, when you put that into circulation, it leads to neurological problems. So you have people who start not being able to think clearly, not being able to remember, recall, and so on. That’s the toxicity in circulation causing things to go downhill. So if you want to prevent a child that’s coming from being damaged, you start well ahead of time. You will detoxify both the mother and the father. And one, you get rid of toxic things that are heavy metals. For that, I have found that Zeolite is really effective. EDTA also works and we have multiple detoxification products on the website, you can find it there. Other things we have, for example, discovered that a defect called spina bifida, which is the badly developed spinal cord, or there’s actually a gap. Bifida is in two pieces. There’s a gap in the spine that’s somehow some kind of a development problem. Anyway, that is affected or prevented by folate. Folate is stuff that comes from FOLIC, which stands for leaf. Green leafy things, green things like alfalfa, chlorella, spirulina, barley grass, wheatgrass, kamut grass juice. These are all available in the Exsula superfoods. We put a lot of the non-toxic, clean superfood material in there. The other thing that’s super important is iodine. It’s just bizarre, but iodine or deficiency of iodine leads to lower IQ, lower intelligence in babies. And also iodine leads to protecting the pregnancy from early births from miscarriage. Folks that may have miscarried should strongly contemplate having enough iodine on board. The third thing that happens with pregnancies that don’t go to term is, or that they don’t even get established, is inflammatory foods.

Overall level of inflammation is a thing that causes the woman to not be able to actually have the zygote. You know, like when the egg meets the sperm, that actually happens outside of the uterus, that happens in the tubes. And then this thing descends and finds a spot in the uterus and settles in there.

And that’s establishing the pregnancy. Sometimes this process doesn’t happen, and you end up with an ectopic pregnancy where the egg is impregnated and starts developing and growing in the fallopian tube, causing injury and bursts. And I mean, it’s dangerous. It could lead to death. But anyway, so the pregnancy needs to be established, and this process is greatly affected by inflammatory foods.

And the most inflammatory food we have is gluten, wheat. And our oh-so-wise agriculture industry has developed a grain that the old-style grain was about 6% protein, 6% gluten. They have hybridized and turned the tall, four-foot-tall wheat into an 18-inch short, dwarf wheat that has much more protein to it.

They’re just so proud of that achievement. Well, ever since they started growing it somewhere in the mid-seventies, the rise of the problems, it just started happening. And then in the nineties, they introduced glyphosate Roundup, and that use is growing, and they now use glyphosate on grain, especially on wheat, but they use it on lentils and chickpeas and other things.

And they use it as a spray at the time of harvest. So especially in Northern latitudes where weather is threatening, right? Like you’re waiting, you have a shorter growing season and you’re hoping to get the wheat off the field before the first snowfall comes. And they could come sometime in September or something like that. So what they do is they spray the field with glyphosate, and the plant is now dying because that’s what you caused it. You caused it to die. And in the process of dying, it pushes all of its remaining energy into its progeny, into the grain. So you have a desiccated dried plant with bigger grain. And so it’s easier to harvest. It’s uniform and it’s drier than it would be otherwise. And it’s before the snowfall. Then you push the combine harvester onto the field.

Take it off the field and the chemical industry sales rep tells you, “Oh, this is fine. There’s a trace amount of the glyphosate on it, but don’t you worry, it does nothing to the human.” Well, maybe true, but it’s an antibiotic, which means that it actually kills off and damages the microbiome. So it’s causing destruction of the microbiome in the gut of the person that eats it, which causes neurological problems such as autism.

So since the 1990s, especially going into the 2000s, things have gotten worse, right? The numbers of children born with problems are going up. Now you can undo this, right? Even with your child that’s born with this condition, with neurological issues, you can repair a lot of it. Anyway, even when the child is born with some damage, you can undo a lot of it by one, detoxing.

Zeolite, it works even on infants. You can start really early. You can bring in essential fatty acids. They are really important, right? Omega threes are super important. Flax oil is really rich in ALA, alpha-lipoic acid, which is the precursor of the DHA and EPA that your body can make.

Or you can also, of course, supplement the DHA EPA in the form of fish oil, krill oil, sardine, whatever, small fish, fish oil. So that’s important. All the vitamins like vitamin therapy, just high nutrition value, right? High nutrient-density food. When you bring that, you have a chance of reverting the changes that would set and become permanent.

Sooner you can get to it, the better. The other things that you could use are also detox and then microbiome for which you need the Humic Acid and Fulvic Acid to protect the terrain. And then you need to seed it with the good things, good microbes. I mean, there’s another important point to be made, which is this: The child that is born normally vaginally experiences, gets mushed through the microbiome of the vagina.

And also, right, there’s a little bit of the poop as well in there. The microbes from the digestive tract of the mother also are present in the area. So the child gets inoculated with that. And then the child is also breastfeeding and just all the saliva, like the interaction. So a child that’s born by C-section is born sterile. That site is treated as, and correctly, as a sterile environment and so unless the surgeon is wise enough to reach into the woman’s vagina, put some of that goop on his fingers and rubbing it all over the face of this child, this child is deprived of the initial seeding of his microbiome because this child is born sterile without any of this, well not quite but largely sterile. So you need to bring in the microbes that were outside in. When this doesn’t happen, these children are predisposed toward problems. And it’s well known and statistically documented that children born through C-section are more prone to having problems on the ADD spectrum.

And then there’s the stored trauma, which is of course, emotional injuries. We all come with that. Most of us come out of our childhood with some misunderstandings that need to be cleared. We have hang-ups with either siblings or parents.

We need to resolve any stored emotional trauma if you want to have a decent life. I had to deal with my childhood issues between me and my mother and my father and my brother and whatever else. Right? And I did. The methodology or the methods that I’m familiar with, EFT, emotional freedom technique, also known as tapping helps a lot.

Body talk, quantum healing, emo code or emotional code. There are multiple disciplines out there. And each of them, touch for health is another good one that allows us to clear the stored energetics. We are actually working now with a company called AO SCAN, Solex. We started working with that, we’re learning it. It’s a method by which we can remotely send a vibrational signal that will read your vibrational picture print and send back to you stuff that will balance you. So we can understand where your weaknesses are energetically and we can send in a signal that will help to rebalance you. That’s a big deal. We’ll be introducing that, I’m sure. There are several methods again, available that way. There are multiple companies coming up with things. There’s, Healy and there’s, anyway, many, you just have to pick one. We’re going with the AO scan for now. The passing of the stuff from generation to generation, understanding how we got here, right?

You can’t hold your parents responsible. There’s no point blaming your mother for being who she was or how she did or whatever. We got what we got. The interesting point is your mother, when she was conceived or when she was gestated inside your grandmother, had all of the eggs that she’s ever going to have already inside her. So the eggs from which every period your mother has had takes one egg and drops it through, or maybe two eggs, two ovaries. Every period that she’s had, had an egg, and those eggs were in your mother when she was gestated in the belly of your grandmother. So everything that your grandmother did or knew or was at the time of the pregnancy is actually affecting the mother and the egg that becomes her child. You contemplate that. right? The passing on of information, chemically and vibrationally. The sins of our generation are passed down. That’s why we talk about seven generations, three generations back, us, and three generations forward. It just carries.

So anything that we do now is going to echo through the next three generations. We already know that. My name is Martin Pytela. I’m the health coach at Life Enthusiast, life-enthusiast.com. You can find me by phone at 866-543-3388. Thank you for listening.

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Podcast 479: Enzymes: The Catalysts of Life

Today, Martin is joined by Mike Kramarczyk the CEO of HCP Formulas to delve into the fascinating world of enzymes. These remarkable biological catalysts play a crucial role in accelerating chemical reactions within our bodies, all without being consumed in the process. By doing so, enzymes ensure that essential metabolic processes occur swiftly and efficiently, keeping us alive and thriving.

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MARTIN: Hi everyone. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast. And today with me is Mike Kramarczyk. He is with HCP Supplements, our favorite enzyme supplement company. Mike, would you take two minutes to tell your personal history? How did you get into enzymes?

MIKE It all started with hearing a decent sized handful of end users telling me about all these different experiences they had with systemic enzymes. That’s ground zero.

MARTIN: All right. And so that’s many years ago now, right?

MIKE: Oh, 22 years ago.

MARTIN: So you have taken classes, you have gone to,

MIKE: Oh, oh, yes.

MARTIN: You studied it. You now know enzymes backwards probably, right?

MIKE: I like to think so. I definitely don’t know everything. I don’t know. Pretend to, but it does take quite a bit to stump me when it comes to enzymes.

MARTIN: Well, so let’s just unpack it. Why do people need to take enzymes?

MIKE: That’s an awesome question and that actually goes all the way back to when we’re born. The reason why people need to take systemic enzymes, not digestive enzymes. Digestive enzymes, you take them with food, they release in the stomach and they get the whole digestive process a head start. Systemic enzymes are taken away from food and the intent is to keep them intact until they have a chance to get into your bloodstream and that’s when they start bringing with them an entirely different set of benefits.

As far as why people should take enzymes, systemic enzymes specifically, that reason totally goes back to our birth. When we are born, we are born with this massive supply of enzymes within us inherently. And throughout our entire childhood, our body is not shy about tapping into that supply and using them, and it uses them by the truckload. And that’s why when we’re five and 10 and 15 years old, we run around, we trip, we fall, we hurt ourselves, all we did was get right back up and keep doing whatever it was that hurt us in the first place. But you might notice when we’re 40 or 50 or 60 years old, it just isn’t quite the same way. And the entire difference is enzymes.

The reason why there’s such a huge gap between those two situations is because we go through a lot of different changes in our life. And one of the biggest periods of changes in our late 20s, like 28, 29, maybe 30 years old. A lot of big changes take place at that point. Our aging process kicks into high gear at that point. But also too, our bodies take inventory. And our body basically says, hey, if we keep using these enzymes at the rate that we did through our youth we’re not gonna have any left when we get to 40 or 50 or 60 years old. So instead of using them by the truckload, it starts using them by the spoonful. And that’s why when we get older, pain is more debilitating, recovery times are longer, scars and more visible. It’s all because of enzymes.

So when you supplement with systemic enzymes, you’re putting a huge supply back in play. And our bodies quickly adapt to that and say, hey, wow, now you look at all these enzymes that we’ve got right now, but there’s more where that came from. And so our body starts to feel more free to use them again in a similar manner to the way it did when we were younger. And that’s why they work so well for pain and inflammation and arthritis and scar tissue and so on.

MARTIN: Okay, so I hear you say, be regular, take it on a regular sustained basis because your body gets used to the idea that this supply will continue, right?

MIKE: Yes. In fact, that’s why for a long time, and this is years ago, enzymes kind of got a bad rap because you had to take a lot of them and you had to take them three times a day. And you had to do it on an empty stomach.

Three times a day on an empty stomach is pretty tough for a lot of people. And a lot of formulas, even decent blends that are out there are still that way, where you do have to take them three times a day, away from food. There’s been certain developments, a lot of technologies and certainly different enzyme companies that have come into the world since then, where you can get better blends, more complete formulas, and certainly more potent ingredients. And in the case of some companies, especially ours, some really remarkable delivery systems where you don’t have to take a handful at a time. And instead of doing it three times a day, now it’s twice a day.

MARTIN: Okay, so talk about that, the delivery systems. How can they differ?

MIKE: Oh, well, like the most common one that you see, sadly, there actually are companies out there that have systemic enzymes that don’t have any kind of protection of any kind. And those are not systemic enzymes. Those enzymes are not going to get where they need to go. Most companies use some type of an enteric coating to protect their product. And enteric coatings work, there’s no question. They do work, they do keep the product intact. They just keep the enzymes viable while they travel through the lower acid levels of an empty stomach, get into the small intestine and allow them to get into the bloodstream.

MARTIN: So this would have to be some sort of a specialized capsule, right?

MIKE: Yes. But with those coatings, yeah. So those coatings that a lot of companies do use, now you’re talking about phthalates and plasticizers and solvents and acrylics and GMO corn proteins and a lot of things that a lot of people don’t wanna take anymore. And we didn’t want those things in our products. So from day one, we went to work on developing our own capsule. We call it an acid defense capsule. And it is a non-GMO plant-based cellulose capsule just like any other veggie cap you might find in some other products. What makes ours different, though, we’re using the same forms, the same molds, the same machines to make those capsules. But we’re putting a whole lot more pressure behind the material going into those forms. So we’re packing more of that into the same small space, which gives our capsule more resilience, more strength to stay intact for a longer period of time.

MARTIN: Right. So it takes longer for the acid to actually break it down, so it doesn’t.

MIKE: Exactly. But what’s really cool about it is it actually gives us the ability to dictate when that capsule is going to release. And we did the research. The average person passes a capsule through an empty stomach in about 21 to 26 minutes. So we engineered our capsule to stay intact for that amount of time, plus a small cushion to make sure that the capsule does get through the stomach completely, but that it does release in those first 12 inches of the small intestine. That’s called your duodenum and that’s where you’re going to have the highest chance of absorption of almost anything you put in your body.

MARTIN: Right. I guess that’s because the pancreatic duct is in that area too, right? The body already has designs for that technology.

MIKE: Exactly. Correct.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. So that’s actually really important, right? Knowing that the supplier has thought it through and has the capsule that will hold it together long enough, but not too long.

MIKE: And then it is very important. It is, in fact, it’s critical. But also, too, it really benefits the end user, not just because they’re actually getting more of the enzymes that they’re taking. But also, when you start talking about these coatings and other delivery systems, especially with tablets, yes, it does stay intact as it gets to the small intestine. But it continues traveling through the small intestine, eventually the coating breaks down. Eventually the capsule or tablet breaks down. Eventually the enzymes release and whatever hasn’t died from exposure in that really harsh environment will get into the bloodstream. When you’re releasing a more concentrated blend, a more complete blend of enzymes into the spot of the body where you have the highest chance of absorption and the least amount of exposure, it’s a win-win for everybody. And that’s why our dosing is so much lower than the vast majority of our competitors.

You don’t have to take handfuls at a time of Fibrenza. I mean, real world dosing, and this isn’t just a good testimonial that we heard once, the vast majority of our practitioners, mild to moderate conditions are just two capsules, two times a day, empty stomach. More moderate, severe, more chronic conditions tend to be three capsules, two times a day, empty stomach.

MARTIN: Right on.

MIKE: So it makes it much easier to take.

MARTIN: Yeah, that’s great. Yeah, not only easier to take, but it’s also not so bad on the pocket.

MIKE: Right. Oh yeah. There’s a huge value statement as far as value goes. Huge value statement. Because many of our competitors have larger cap count bottles than we do at a higher price point than ours is. But because their dosing is so much higher, it tends to be still a 30 day supply or maybe a 40 day supply. With ours, yes, we only had our large size of the 240 count bottle, but because our dosing is so much lower than most everybody else, that’s a six to eight week supply with real dosing, six to eight weeks out of each bottle at a lower price point. So a huge value statement for the end user.

MARTIN: Let me have you talk a bit about what the enzymes actually do in the body.

MIKE: Basically, the short version is it comes down to proteins. When you’re looking at a digestive blend of enzymes, you’re going to see enzymes for fats and starches and carbs and sugars and proteins and so on. When you look at a systemic enzyme blend, the vast majority of those enzymes are what’s called proteolytic or protein-eating enzymes. And that’s really the whole entire key as to how they work and how they do what they do. Because in our bodies, every single protein-based cell in our bodies is tagged in one of two ways. They’re either an endogenous protein, meaning they belong, they’re supposed to be there, they’re necessary, or they’re an exogenous protein, meaning they don’t belong, they’re unnecessary, redundant, maybe even harmful.

Your body will only disperse the enzymes to go after and break down those proteins that have been tagged as exogenous, the ones that don’t belong. And I say your body because the enzymes themselves when they get into your bloodstream they know nothing, they don’t have a clue of what to do, they’re literally dumb.

MARTIN: All right, so the enzyme is sort of like the bullet and the immune system has to tag the targets right.

MIKE: Exactly. That’s exactly right. And so your body tags all these proteins within it in one way or the other and disperses the enzymes to go after and break down those things that don’t belong. A great example is with scar tissue, for example.

MARTIN: Yeah, fibrosis or fibrin, right?

MIKE: Yeah, fibrosis certainly, but you cut your arm open immediately after that wound occurs, our healing mechanisms start kicking in. Little tracks of fibrous tissue are gonna track down and start the process of healing that wound. And those fibrous tracks of tissue are going to build and build and eventually form the scar that you see. You can take all the enzymes in the world and it’ll eat up any of the excess scar tissue that’s on the outside. It’ll certainly devour any adhesions or internal scar tissue that may have formed underneath, but it will never eat up so much scar tissue that it reopens that wound.

And that’s because your body has specifically tagged those cells as necessary to keep that wound healed. That’s the best way I know to explain it. Another good example is with fibroids for women. Uterine fibroids, those are protein-based matter. The uterus itself is protein-based matter. You can take all the enzymes in the world. Certainly the enzymes are not going to attack the uterus. They will go after the fibroid within it.

MARTIN: Yeah. I notice it, I have a scar on my hand from my childhood, and it used to be very noticeable. And now I’m really having to struggle to find it, because I’ve been using enzymes for some years now.

MIKE: Yeah, yeah, it’s been on it for a while.

MARTIN: It has really taken it away. I had one lady call me and tell me, listen, you should be selling this for stretch mark removal. She took it because of a fibroid. She did a three month run at a higher dose and came back saying, well, the fibroids gone and all my stretch marks are gone.

MIKE: Nice, we’ll take that.

MARTIN: Yeah, right? I think that’s possible.

MIKE: It’s exactly right.

MARTIN; Yeah. Okay, so these enzymes take away all the hardening, stiffening, binding tissues, right? So…

MIKE: Yeah, any fiber, any excess fibrous tissues, scar tissue, fibrosis, any of that. And that’s again, wherever it may be, whether it’s inside the lungs with pulmonary fibrosis or inside the uterus with endometriosis. I mean, even if it’s something as simple as adhesions from some surgery you had two or six or eight years ago or whatever, it can target that. And I mean, it works really well for that. If it’s not in the top three success stories that we hear about here, I would say it’s easily within the top five.

MARTIN: Right on. And so when it comes to stiffening of tissues, like stiffening of muscles or binding of things, is that also helpful for that? Like flexibility for a gymnast kind of thing?

MIKE: There’s a few different things that can cause that. Lactic acid build-up in the muscle tissues can contribute to that. The enzymes in the spirit of full disclosure and honesty, I’m not going to do very much for lactic acid buildup, but anything as far as any tissue damage to the muscle tissues itself, that’s gonna be healed with some type of fibrous matter, whether usually scar tissue of some sort.

MARTIN: Yeah, I’m thinking of the overuse injuries, right?

MIKE: Yeah, okay. So yeah, tears and things like that, absolutely, yes. But there’s also additional benefit that comes to the table. So yes, you’re targeting those those harder tissues that are forming to keep to heal those areas, but you’re also talking about a huge inflammatory response and systemic enzymes are inherently anti-inflammatory. If you take, like you look at pain, for example, you’re not going to have pain without inflammation. It’s impossible. They go hand in hand. So, you reduce one, you’re going to reduce the other. And so if you boil inflammation, if you boil pain down to ground zero, you have inflammation and at the bottom of inflammation, the whole start of it starts with these, they call them circulatory immune complexes and I don’t want to lose anybody with,

MARTIN: Well, that’s quite all right. You know, this audience is quite capable of following a complex thought.

MIKE: But yeah, so it starts with circulatory immune complexes and these CICs, if you will, what ends up happening when a trauma occurs or when an injury occurs, whatever the case may be, those CICs, they replicate, they replicate and they replicate and they become more and more active and they cause inflammation to occur so that we get a pain signal that says we need to take care of this. The problem is when we get older and our enzyme supplies are lower, those CICs are free to continue that process over and over and over again, not quite indefinitely, but for a very long period of time. And so that inflammation lingers and lingers and the pain that comes with that lingers as well. So when you’re taking the enzymes, it slows that, or herbs I should say, that process. And so yes, you get that initial pain signal, but it’s not gonna be a three or 10 or 20 day thing.

The enzymes target that the source of the inflammation, breaking down those extra protein cells that are causing that inflammation, the inflammation gets reduced, the pain gets reduced with it, and once you get that inflammation out of those tissues, now they’re a whole lot more apt to heal themselves.

MARTIN: Right, and of course when you extrapolate what you just said, that really goes to just about every chronic inflammatory illness. Whether it’s in the circulatory system or in the skeletal, muscular, or muscular skeletal, or whether it’s in organs, like you can have inflamed liver and so on, right?

MIKE: Yep, exactly right.

MARTIN: Yeah, okay. So I guess what we should try and explain is, well, how specifically is Fibrenza put together that is making it so attractive? I mean, there are some features, like there’s a certain palette of enzymes and we have the concerns of efficacy and price. And how does it work together, right?

MIKE: Yeah, no, absolutely. I will absolutely with all the confidence in the world say that Fibrenza is by far the most complete blend of enzymes that exists, period. Absolutely. There’s two basic camps out there and both of them have some merit. There’s your plant-based enzyme camp and your animal-based enzyme camp. So you have enzymes out there in the plant-based world, like serrapeptase, for example. Serrapeptase is a tremendous enzyme. It’s very, very potent and it works really well for a whole lot of people. And then you have in the animal side camp, you have your enzymes like trypsin or chymotrypsin.

Again, very, very potent enzymes and they work really well for a lot of people too. But what so many practitioners that I’ve worked with over the years have found is they’ll recommend one type or the other to this person or that person. And some people respond amazingly well, but some people don’t respond at all. And the reason why that’s so hit or miss is because we’re all different. We all have different metabolisms, different blood types, different pH ranges, certainly.

which are going to have a huge impact on how well a person is going to assimilate and utilize an animal based enzyme over a plant one and vice versa. And that is really where Fibrenza shines. Because Fibrenza is the only systemic enzyme on the market that’s taken the most potent enzymes available from both sources and combined them. You will not find a single other product out there that has trypsin and chymotrypsin as well as serrapeptase, nattokinase.

Ours is the only one that includes superoxide dismutase, which is not just a really awesome enzyme, but a phenomenal antioxidant. And ours is also the only one that includes an enzyme called seaprose. We’re really, really proud of that one because seaprose is kind of the king of the hill when it comes to systemic enzymes. In fact, there’s even a study that was published that compares seaprose side by side with serrapeptase with the end result essentially being serrapeptase is good, but it’s almost as good as seaprose. So it brings with it additional potency than even serrapeptase, but the nice thing too is serrapeptase is a little bit fragile when it comes to the environment of the GI tract. And seaprose actually is more durable in that environment. So it’s even slightly stronger than serrapeptase and more durable. So, we’re taking this more complete formula that has the best of both worlds to take that hit or miss benefit out of the equation because there’s something for every metabolism, every blood type, every pH range to respond to. Seaprose is kind of the top enzyme in our formula, as far as potency goes.

MARTIN: All right, cool. So some of the questions I get asked is, well, what if I want to be a vegan? I guess you have to take your religious decisions and base it on that, right?

MIKE: Absolutely. And I mean, like I said, there’s some merit to plant-based products. But even if you really want to get into the whole vegetarian vegan thing, like even serrapeptase, if you go back right around 35, 45 years ago, serrapeptase itself was actually harvested from the excretions, the silkworm excretion that they used to slice away the cocoon they’re trying to get out of.

So it was actually harvested from silkworms from ground zero. Yes. Now nobody’s harvesting silkworms anymore. In fact, serrapeptase, the vast majority if not every company that I’m aware of, is actually culturing it. So it is a cultured product, not, like I said, there’s nobody harvesting silkworms.

MARTIN: Okay. And when it comes to the animal ones, they are from animal parts or are they grown?

MIKE: Well, they’re pancreatic enzymes, their enzymes extracted from animals.

MARTIN: So that means butcher shop, pancreas collected and processed.

MIKE: Yeah, like ours are our ours are bovine coming from New Zealand. So it’s as good a source as we can possibly secure.

MARTIN: Sorry, I didn’t hear you clearly, it comes from?

MIKE: You said ours are bovine from New Zealand.

MARTIN: So that’s bovine New Zealand. So not pork, it’s a cow.

MIKE: Bovine, yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. Great. Okay, what else could we think of saying? What did I not ask you?

MIKE: Well, the one thing I will touch on, and it’s a big deal to us, because I’m not aware of any other company that does it. I just touched on the reliability of the enzymes and why it’s a more complete formula and it takes that hit or miss benefit out of the equation. It’s important, I think it’s important to relay and convey the message that, because of the reliability, because of the potency, because of how complete the formula is, and certainly because of the delivery system, it is also the only guaranteed systemic enzyme in the market that I’m aware of. Don’t get me wrong, everybody guarantees freshness and everybody guarantees potency, and that’s great, and we do too, but we guarantee benefit. And I think that’s a bold statement, not just because, like I said, I think we’re the only ones that do.

But I think it’s a bold statement because when you think about a lot of the benefits of systemic enzymes, pain, inflammation, arthritis, scar tissue, fibromyalgia, uterine fibroids, fibrocystic breasts, endometriosis, tons of cardiovascular benefits, a lot of those benefits are purely subjective benefits. It’s entirely up to the end user. Do I feel better or don’t I?

We guarantee that you will feel better. You know what I’m saying? I mean, there’s some things that you can quantify. Like if you, a great example, if you’ve never taken systemic enzymes before, and you look at your blood under a dark field microscope, you’re going to see two things in well north of 80% of people. You’re gonna see a spiderweb, like a white spiderweb going through the blood, and that’s excess fibrin. And you’ll see a lot of the blood cells kind of all clumped up and stuck together. And that’s from a protein film that forms around it.

And that is present in well north of 80% of people. And I’m not exaggerating at all. You take two or three capsules of Fibrenza and within 45 to 60 minutes of that first dose, assuming it’s an empty stomach, within 45 to 60 minutes of that, 90 plus percent of that excess fibrin will be gone and 90 plus percent of those blood cells will be floating freely from each other. So as far as photographic picture-proof evidence that it’s doing something. Yes, we do have that. I have numerous pictures of it. So yes, there is plenty of evidence that’s benefiting the body, but most people just care about, do I feel better or don’t I? And we’ve got that too.

MARTIN: That’s fantastic. Mike, I’d like to ask you about this other product that you have, Abzorb. I think that’s focusing more on the digestive tract than on the systemic. Is that right?

MIKE: Yes, but it’s not a, it’s a blend of digestive enzymes. That’s not a digestive enzyme product, if that makes sense.

MARTIN: To me. Yes.

MIKE: It is a front to back, top to bottom. You still take it away from food, but it is a top to bottom front to back GI wellness product. It cleanses the gut. It hydrates the gut.

It even, the vast majority of people are far more acidic than they should be. It actually contributes a tiny bit to helping kind of alkalize the gut. It doesn’t make it alkaline, but it just calms down the acidity, if you will. And then after that, it’s followed up with a bunch of probiotics, plus a prebiotic, to help with that good bacteria in play. It’s an awesome, awesome product. The whole design of it is absolutely fantastic and it’s easy to take. It’s two capsules once a day, empty stomach. Each bottle is a 150 day supply. I think that’s right, two and a half months. Or no, sorry. It’s a two and a half month supply. It’s 150 count bottle, two and a half month supply. Sorry about that. But it works really, really well. And I absolutely emphatically believe that it is step number one for anybody that makes that decision, I want to invest in my health. I want to eat the right foods. I want to take the right supplements. Where do I start? Abzorb is absolutely that starting point. It helps undo a lot of the things that you’ve done to your body. It helps prepare your body to accept everything you’re about to spend your money investing in your time, investing your, your, again, financial investment in supplements and diets, choosing the right foods and things like that. You’re going to make that investment in yourself and it’s going to prepare your body to accept it.

MARTIN: Alright.

MIKE: In fact there’s a lady that it’s like a little tiny story, in nowhere ville Missouri. I always tell this story because it’s awesome. She has a little sign on her window right in her front door says everything beyond this point will do more for you if you take Abzorb, and then there’s a picture of a bottle of Abzorb. And that’s totally true because everything else in that store is going to bring more to the table for the person taking it if they start there.

MARTIN: Alright. So this is not just for the sick person. This is for the person who just realizes, well, the health begins in the gut. And I’m going to fine tune or prep up my gut for the best absorption.

MIKE: Yeah, that’s exactly right.

MARTIN: So, you named it well then, Abzorb.

MIKE: Yep, we spelled it with Z. So it’s a little different. But yes, it is definitely named well. Appropriately. And basically what it comes down to is so you have your diet and your lifestyle and all that stuff and that’s great. And whatever you enjoy, you do you.

But if you’re not making really well thought out decisions and you don’t have to be a saint and you don’t need to run marathons every day and you don’t need to be vegan, but not so good decisions have not so good consequences. And so years of a less than desirable lifestyle are gonna leave your GI tract, your intestines are lined with these little fingers called villi.

And those villi, they’re supposed to stand up on end and they’re supposed to grab these nutrients and they’re supposed to pull them up into the bloodstream. And that’s absorption right there. That’s how that takes place. And what happens is a less than desirable lifestyle and diet are gonna start laying down, weighing down those villi and they’re gonna start laying down flat. They’re gonna be pulling less nutrients out of the food that we’re eating, certainly less out of the supplementation that we’re putting into play and they’re going to get kind of caked over by all this sludge and gunk and bile. Abzorb is going to come in with these enzymes and break down that sludge and gunk and bile and get them standing back on end like they’re supposed to. And that gives you capability to absorb a whole lot more just by itself. But then you bring other things to the table like addressing the more than likely an overly acidic environment, bring a little hydration into play and certainly probiotics with a prebiotic, it’s a real complete gut health product. And the testimonials that we get on that product, there’s no rhyme or reason to them. They’re all over the map. Oh, my vision’s improving. Oh, I have better, more deep and restful sleep. I have better cognitive function. I had one lady tell me that her hair has never felt better in her life. Maybe Abzorb was the mechanism, but Abzorb does nothing for hair, I promise.

MARTIN: Well, in your case, right? We have not found the missing link, right? The point with the Abzorb is that it makes absorption improved. So,

MIKE: But that was my point is there’s no rhyme or reason to the testimonials that we get. And a lot of people get attributed to Abzorb. But the reality is Abzorb was the mechanism and that’s it. These people were doing all these different things all along. It’s just they’re just now realizing them because they’re actually getting more of what they’ve been putting into their bodies this whole time. So they were taking vitamin K, they were taking their fish oil, they were taking their zinc, they were doing their B complex, they were doing all these different things but their body wasn’t, was realizing only a fraction of everything they were putting in. And now that their bodies are realizing all these different things they’ve been doing, now they’re seeing all these different benefits that they started to try and realize years ago.

MARTIN: Yep. That is very good. So it really is an investment that has a lot of leverage. It’s a multiplying effect, right?

MIKE: Certainly.

MARTIN: Because when you take this, you’ll get much more out of everything else you do.

MIKE: That’s exactly right. And there’s different ways to do it. Like, and I have actually both of them in my own family. My mother, she loves Abzorb and she swears by, she’s been on it for years and she never goes a day without it. My father on the other hand, he is substantially less interested in taking pills. He’s not a fan. But he sees some merit to certain things. And so with Abzorb, they’ll take a whole bottle and go through two, two and a half months with it. But then he won’t touch it again for four, six, seven months. Then he’ll get another bottle and go through the bottle and then he won’t touch it for four, six, seven months. And so people do it differently. Like I said, my mom just loves how she feels on it. So she sticks to it every single day. But even doing it as my father does, there is some merit to them. I mean, you live your life and you try and do the right things right. And you make a few good decisions here and there. And the benefits can be lasting, not indefinitely, but last you a while where you get back on it again. You know what I mean?

MARTIN: Yeah, well, I want quality of life. We started with talking about youth and enzyme levels are associated.

MIKE: Totally.

MARTIN: So the reverse is also true. Enzyme levels will help me function at a more youthful manner. So I do want to up my enzyme level in my latter years because I want to live longer with the good level of enzymes. So that will mean that however, however many days I have left, I want to leave them mobile, flexible and able to wipe my own whatever rather than stuck in a wheelchair drilling.

MIKE: Oh, certainly.

MARTIN: To end. Right.

MIKE: Certainly. There’s a sentence I heard, I wish I could remember who said it to me, but she said, if you don’t take care of your body for the first half of your life, how do you expect it to take care of you for the second half of your life? And I think that’s well said.

MARTIN: Yeah, well said. And the enzymes are one of those things that you need to do.

MIKE: I think they’re absolutely critical. Absolutely.

MARTIN: Besides hydration and exercise and not filling your body with toxins.

MIKE: Oh, certainly.

MARTIN: It will be right there in the top five.

MIKE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. Mike, there’s one other product that you guys make. It’s called LipiCept and it’s totally different from the others, right? The purpose is different. What would you like to talk about it for a bit anyway?

MIKE: Certainly. It is an absolute monster for people with cholesterol issues. It is an absolute monster. It’s incredibly reliable. It works every single time. And the entire design of the product was to not have side effects. Zero side effects. No interactions, no contraindications with anything. Even if you’re currently on a statin, you can take this right alongside it and it’s not going to interact in any way.

MARTIN: Well, let me let me butt in with this. With statins, you’re actually blocking creation of cholesterol. Which is actually detrimental. I mean, I know that people on statin get joint pain and they become stupid. They become,

MIKE: Diabetic. I’ve heard liver failure. I’ve heard diabetes. I have heard it’s a litany of different things that they can go south.

MARTIN: So how is this not going to cause over reduction of cholesterol?

MIKE: All right, so this is the best part about it. So one of them, well, first of all, it’s important to recognize cholesterol starts and ends in the liver, period. And the whole premise behind the statin is to suppress the liver’s production of cholesterol as you just touched on. Suppress one of the most efficient processes your body has, of course there’s going to be side effects.

LipiCept does not work that way. Instead, LipiCept totally trusts the fact that generally speaking the liver knows what it’s doing. And instead focuses solely on how the liver accepts the cholesterol that we put in through our diets, the way that the liver processes and synthesizes that cholesterol. And then most importantly, the way it redistributes that cholesterol back into the body, making sure it’s the good cholesterol that goes in and the bad cholesterol that goes out with our waste. And that is the entire start to finish of how the product works. And that’s why there’s no side effects because it’s not trying to hinder something the liver’s fully capable of doing. And like I said, the biggest thing too is blocking the pathways that bad cholesterol gets absorbed back into our bodies. It blocks those pathways so that with nowhere else to go, the bad cholesterol can’t be absorbed and it ends up going out with the waste. Period. That’s the entire functionality of it.

MARTIN: So I guess the final effect will be that the HDL will remain and the LDL will get lower?

MIKE: LDL lowers, HDL actually does tend to go up, not as pronounced as the LDL drops. We don’t sell direct to end users here. But with this product, we have gotten more testimonials than any of our other products combined. And it’s always people sending us their before and after blood work. And I mean, the worst results that we’ve had sent to us was a 19% drop in LDL in 90 days. That’s the worst that we’ve seen.

MARTIN: And typical would be what?

MIKE: Well, the best that we’ve seen is 40%. So if we’re taking averages, then you’re looking at a 30% drop. But I don’t know that I would call that.

MARTIN: I feel like that’s a median, not an average.

MIKE: Yeah, I don’t know that I would call that a reliable average.

MARTIN: All right.

MIKE: But yeah, 19 to 40% is what we’ve seen from everything that’s been sent into us. The product is incredibly reliable. I mentioned that we guarantee our products earlier. This product is no different. And with this product, I mean, like with Fibrenza, we push our guarantee very hard and our return rate is less than half of 1% for 12 years running. We’ll take that all day long. With Lipicept, I think we’ve had three returns in seven years and I think 14 or so thousand bottles out there. I think we’ve had three bottles returned. And one of those in the spirit of full disclosure, one of those bottles actually wasn’t even open.

MARTIN: Well,

MIKE: But we still counted any. We still counted it.

MARTIN: All right. Awesome. Well, I think that pretty much does it for us for today. Thank you very much, Michael. It’s been much appreciated. I really like getting educated and I really love sharing it with our audience.

MIKE: I love being here and I can do this anytime you like.

MARTIN: That’s great. This has been Mike Kramarczyk from HCP Supplements and I’m Martin Pytela at Life-Enthusiast.com. Thank you for being with us today.

MIKE: Thank you.

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Podcast 478: Methylene Blue

In today’s episode, Martin explores the remarkable versatility of Methylene Blue, a compound with applications across multiple fields. In medicine, it treats methemoglobinemia and serves as an antidote for certain poisonings. Researchers are also investigating its potential in treating neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s due to its antioxidant properties. With its wide array of uses, Methylene Blue is an invaluable resource in both science and health. We are excited to announce that Life Enthusiast now offers Methylene Blue. Tune in to learn more about this remarkable product.

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Hello, this is Martin Pytela, health coach at Life Enthusiast. And today I want to talk to you about Methylene Blue. I’ve done a lot of looking around, considering what is or isn’t the right thing to do around the Methylene Blue and I feel confident that what we have is actually good. In the following manner, first of all, Methylene Blue is a very old thing. It actually is the first drug that the FDA ever approved back in the 1800’s. 1800’s, not 1900’s, 1800’s. It was first introduced in 1778, in Germany as a dye. In fact, this blue is the same dye that makes your blue jeans blue. But when taken orally, it actually has some significant benefits. It’s in an industrial dye, so you can buy it quite inexpensively in the industrial grade. We have technical grade, which is what you would use for jeans. And then we have pharmaceutical grade, which is what you want to use for ingestion. I went looking for companies that don’t sell it in just the lab grade where you can buy quite inexpensively a box of it, you can buy ten grams, a hundred grams, whatever weight of it in laboratory grade and use it.

But that’s not going to be certified to be free of contamination. And the contamination will probably include heavy metals like cadmium, arsenic, lead, who knows what else, but definitely heavy metal contamination. I’m concerned that there will be some unscrupulous buyers or sellers, I should say, who would go and buy this just laboratory grade and mix it. It’s not complicated. All you really need to do is understand the scale and how much to use and get with it, and I’ll explain that. But before I do that, let’s talk about what it is and how it works. There are medical uses and there are chemical uses, right? So dealing with this. Whenever you put it on, it’s a strong blue dye. And when you put it in your mouth, it will stain your mouth blue. And of course, when you put it on any surfaces, it will stain. I was just dumping some in my sink, and interestingly enough, it actually stained all the things that were not completely 100% washed off.

So even a stainless steel sink had some stuff stuck to the surface, and whatever was stuck to the surface was getting stained blue. It was quite entertaining. We had to actually use bleach and scrub it to get all of the blue off of it. The original medical use was the treatment of Methemoglobinemia, which is when the iron in hemoglobin becomes oxidized to the ferric state, which makes it unable to transport oxygen effectively. And your blood turns the color of chocolate when the stillness sets in. And so this Methylene Blue helps to restore that. And this will be used in high doses. It was used to treat cyanide poisoning and urinary tract infections. It’s kind of interesting, but the way this thing works is both an oxidizer and anti oxidizer. It’s the ROS, reactive oxygen species in the redox sense, meaning that it’s capable of supporting the reduction side of the transaction and the oxidation side of the transaction. The main purpose here is to support the body with electrons. I already spoke about this before, but an electron is the currency of life. Electrons taken away is oxidation. Electrons given back is reduction. Aging is oxidation. Well, all burning is oxidation. Like when you take a piece of wood which is stored carbon and you light it on fire, you are releasing carbon in the form of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, because the carbon is getting oxidated with oxygen, and at the same time you’re releasing heat, energy.

When you are burning glucose, sugar in your body to convert it into energy, the same thing is going on. You will be exhaling carbon dioxide, and you’ll be releasing energy into your body. And at the same time you’re going to be creating excess heat. And that will also create oxidative stress. And this whole thing is called the Krebs cycle. And there’s a complicated process by which we convert the glucose with the help of vitamin B3. That would be nicotinamide or nicotinic acid into pyruvate, and the ATP or ADP adenosine diphosphate turns into ATP, the higher energy state triphosphate. And so when you release the extra phosphate, the energy is released.

You can look it up, it’s not particularly mysterious. There are six basic steps to how the cycling of energy status of the ATP and ADP changes, and how you release energy. Now, what’s interesting about this Krebs cycle is that when it runs in the right direction, it’s called respiration, and it’s releasing about 34 units of energy per unit of glucose. And then this thing also can run backwards in the form of fermentation, where instead of turning the glucose into carbon dioxide and water. You’re actually turning it into lactic acid because it’s without respiration, it’s now fermentation without oxygen.

And the output is only two units of energy out of a unit of glucose rather than 34. So it’s 17 times less effective. And it’s called fermentation, and when that happens permanently, we would call that cell cancerous. Cancer is like that. Cancer cells are onlly converting glucose into lactic acid, not into carbon dioxide. And interestingly, just on the margin here, normal cell is a healthy cell can also use fats to convert into energy. Cancer cells can’t do that. They only can consume glucose.

The point being is that when we supply plenty of electrons into the system, we are enabling this to function correctly. Methylene Blue, a chemical, is not a natural thing. It’s an invented dye. It’s got nitrogen, sulfur and chlorine in it. It actually starts as a green looking powder. And once you hydrate it, dissolve it in water, it turns blue. There are extensive, I mean, extensive health benefits to it. Originally this was used as a malaria treatment. Malaria being an illness of viral sort. There’s a viral component to it. It’s a toxicity inside the body that’s causing the blood illness called malaria, which comes with fevers and so on. Methylene Blue was used in a fairly high dose.

Later, it was converted into hydroxychloroquine. So hydroxychloroquine is a derivative of Methylene Blue. It’s a more purified version of it. And hydroxychloroquine is the chemical used to treat malaria today. It stains your tongue blue. It stains your urine blue too. What’s interesting about the Methylene Blue, it functionally is somewhat similar to hemoglobin. I mentioned the illness of the blood, where the hemoglobin is not able to carry oxygen because it was turned into ferritin. This Methylene Blue is able to reverse that or compensate for that and allow the body to carry oxygen.

Mitochondria are the tiny little furnaces inside of every single cell that will convert food into energy. So glucose burning up inside of the mitochondria. Depending on which cell this is, there will be different numbers of mitochondria. Really high numbers in cells, in the heart and in the brain where the intensity of energy consumption is the highest. And wouldn’t you know it, this problem that we have recently had with the illness called Covid. It affects people in three ways, right? It affects their heart, as in myocarditis, inflammation of the heart. Brain, as in glial problems. Cancers of the brain. And three, general fatigue, right? Like long Covid tiredness. And four, illnesses of the blood, right, clotting, coagulation, that sort of stuff.

But the first and foremost, what we have noticed is that people who were turning up in the hospitals were turning up with very low oxygen levels. The normal oxygen levels in your blood or in your tissue is somewhere around 98, 99%. 96, 97 is pretty good. 98 is super healthy. People were turning up with 60% oxygen. Blue lips, blue fingers, and the treatments that they were receiving was they were putting them on ventilators, treating it as if this problem was a lung problem, not enough lung function. But that’s not really what was going on. It was more akin or more like cyanide poisoning, where the blood is not carrying enough oxygen.

And Methylene Blue would have been the perfect antidote because it dramatically raises the body’s ability to absorb oxygen. This compound being an electron carrier is improving our ability to generate energy. Which of course, improves our thinking, our memory, our ability to do just about every life function. So it’s automatically also reversing the problem with the mitochondria being dysfunctional and the Krebs cycle going into reverse, and the subsequent illness that I don’t really want to keep naming here. Your cells will become functioning normally when you raise the level of oxygen.

And the way you raise the level of oxygen is in fact with the Methylene Blue. It’s the alternative pathway to bringing oxygen in if the hemoglobin pathway is under functioning. So you will be accomplishing two things: more energy and reversal of aging. So reversing the aging symptoms, what are they like? All of the brain problems: recall, memory, ability to think clearly, ability to learn, ability to convert short term memories into long term memories. So when you take this as you’re trying to learn things, you will actually remember what you’re reading better.

In the articles that you can read about it, one, antidepressant properties. It’s really helping the body to function well. There is a problem here, because if you are on medications, either SSRIs or MAOI drugs: if you are on any drugs that affect moods, specifically antidepressants, SSRIs or MAOIs. What you need to do is be working very closely with the physician that prescribed you that, and you can probably get off of those medications, but you have to do that with great deal of care while supplementing Methylene Blue. Methylene Blue specifically increases the activity of serotonin and norepinephrine, which both are critical to regulating your mood.

Anti-inflammatory effects, which means in chronic diseases like Alzheimers, cancer, heart disease, those are all inflammatory diseases. Well, in fact, almost all problems of aging are inflammatory. So specifically the Alzheimers, of course, is a chronic, metabolic problem in the brain. Another name for Alzheimers was diabetes type 1.5. Which is essentially a diabetic reaction in the brain. The brain is a huge consumer of glucose. 20% of the glucose that your body consumes is consumed by the brain.

So with the presence of Methylene Blue, we have an improvement in the mitochondria in the brain cells therefore better utilization of oxygen therefore not as many toxic proteins are going to be building up in the brain. These are known as the amyloid plaques. And they will not be forming because there’s no deficiency of oxygen, there’s no inflammation. And therefore you will either stop or even reverse this.

Methylene Blue has been used to treat sepsis. If you have sepsis blood poisoning, you’re facing a serious crisis. So the survival rate was greatly improved by administering Methylene Blue. Another inflammatory disease is Parkinson’s. The neurodegenerative disease, as in, the dopamine producing neurons in the brain are affected. Since we are improving the levels of dopamine and serotonin and norepinephrine in the brain, we are going to be also reversing or at least helping to reduce the symptoms that would be associated with Parkinson’s.

I mentioned cyanide poisoning. Cyanide is a molecule that will cause the body to be not able to carry oxygen. Cyanide poisoning does happen. And if it should come your way, well, Methylene Blue will treat that by binding to the cyanide and converting it to a nontoxic form.

So there’s this syndrome called acute respiratory distress or ARDS. And people with pneumonia or sepsis may end up in that. Like if you have somebody in severe respiratory distress, they are essentially not able to carry enough oxygen. People get administered Methylene Blue, lung function improves, inflammation is reduced, people return to normal function.

Neurological disorders. This includes multiple sclerosis, traumatic brain injury TBI, spinal cord injury and stroke. A stroke is essentially an oxygen deprivation injury in the brain. So when you bring in more oxygen with Methylene Blue, you will very likely improve function. So it will protect the neurons, reduce the inflammation and reduce the severity of the consequences.

Radiation induced injury. So what is radiation induced? Well, these days radiation is applied in cancer therapy, right? They will apply radiation trying to burn up, injure the cancer cells, the tumor cells. And of course, in doing so, they will inevitably also injure some normal cells. So when you start using Methylene Blue, you are going to be helping the body to recover itself, recover the normal cells back to full function so reducing the injury.

Diabetes is an illness of inflammatory sort that’s associated with high blood glucose levels. Methylene Blue has been found to improve insulin sensitivity and reduce blood glucose levels. Insulin sensitivity. This is a big deal, right? You have heard of insulin resistance. If you should end up with insulin resistance, that means that you have high circulating glucose. High circulating insulin. Insulin is the signaling molecule that is asking cells to take up glucose. But insulin resistant cells won’t do it. Methylene Blue will help with this.

Stomach ulcers, people taking Methylene Blue have been able to deal with H. Pylori infection. This is a bacterium that’s directly associated with stomach ulcers. So when you take a high oxidation agent such as Methylene Blue, you will of course end up killing off microbes.

We have mentioned various microbials such as the famous Covid. Earlier I mentioned that this Methylene Blue will help deal with infections. Corona as in corona virus. Any flu really anything that’s viral or bacterial. So bacterial as in the H. Pylori just mentioned viral as in the common flu. Well, here’s another one, the Epstein-Barr, which is a viral condition associated with Lyme disease. People who suffer with Lyme disease have long term effects of chronic fatigue, which essentially is an inability to convert food into energy. Low oxygen levels. So when we start administering Methylene Blue, we are wiping out the infections. We are bringing in oxygen to the tissues. We are improving the mitochondrial function.

The symptoms that you have associated with all of these chronic inflammatory diseases are going to start going away. Skin conditions such as psoriasis and eczema are also inflammatory diseases this time of the skin. So when you start taking the Methylene Blue, you can expect an improvement to these symptoms. This is likely to work on zika and dengue and all the other viral attacks that are known to be a threat. Right. So H something and N something H1N1, H2, H3, I don’t know, whatever they call them.

Every one of these diseases will be neutralized by this oxidative therapy. Now, I’ve talked to you about a different or another oxidative therapy that we have, which is a product called Amazing Soak or Amazing O. And we have worked on combining one with the other. We have worked on combining Methylene Blue and Amazing O to see what happens. And indeed at a low dose, at low concentrations, these things synergize really beautifully. So you can take one and the other either separately or in low concentrations together.

So another topic, heart disease management. Your heart is the muscle that consumes a huge amount of energy. It needs a lot of oxygen, and it needs a lot of glucose because it’s beating a lot, right? 70 beats per minute. One beat per second, give or take, right? 100,000 beats per day. So of course it will improve cardiac function and reduce the damage to heart tissues. If there should be any damage possible.

Methylene Blue will promote wound healing. Why? Well, because you are needing energy exchange in order to build new cells. So it will help to reduce the inflammation at the site and therefore speed up their recovery. Liver disease treatment, liver fibrosis and fatty liver disease has been reduced and reversed because again, of the reduction of the inflammation and the oxidative stress.

Therefore people who are overusing alcohol are protected by using Methylene Blue and people who are experiencing alcohol withdrawal, if they are trying to get off of it, they will have a lesser problem, less hard time, reducing the severity of alcohol withdrawal symptoms. Probably has to do with both the liver and the brain support.

Inflammatory bowel disease, as in chronic inflammation in the gut, ulcerative colitis, or Crohn’s disease. Both will respond positively. There are studies, animal studies that will reduce the inflammation and the oxidative stress.

Osteoporosis is an inflammatory disease of the bone that leads to the loss of the minerals. Also, when I reduce the inflammatory stress, it will also improve the ability of the bones to function correctly.

Brain inflammation that’s presenting as tinnitus or tinnitus, which is buzzing in the ears or ringing in the ears. That will also be reduced with the help of Methylene Blue. Again, same pathway, reducing inflammation and reducing oxidative stress.

Neuropathy, chemically induced, chemotherapy induced. All of the nerve damage or inflammatory damage caused by the toxicity associated with chemotherapy will be reduced. So that will deal with pain, numbness, tingling, all of those symptoms.

Recently, just the other day, I was coughing more than usual and I was feeling congested. It was just not fun. I was just finishing a bottle of methylene blue and on the bottom the dropper wasn’t reaching to the bottom, so I just took a swig of it. So I took a dose that was much higher than what I’m normally taking. And within 20 minutes, all of the allergic symptoms that I was experiencing were gone, just disappeared. So clearly, this thing is dose dependent, you need to have enough to overcome the stress that’s happening to your body.

Anyway, I was talking about chemotherapy induced problems. One of the problems is damage to the DNA of the cells. So when you use Methylene Blue, again, it’s anti-inflammatory, oxygen producing effects will help to repair the mitochondrial damage, including mucositis, which is quite interesting.

Glaucoma treatment is listed here too. Glaucoma is an eye problem, right? Methylene blue has also been found to reduce intraocular pressure. Reversal of optic nerve damage in glaucoma patients.

Treatment of Parkinson’s disease, definitely helpful with that. Stroke management, of course, when you have a stroke, that’s when oxygen deprivation to the tissues.

Osteoarthritis, that’s a degenerative joint disease, right? This time it’s not the bone. It’s the cartilage and the lining of the joint, the surfaces that are rubbing against one another. Again, when we are reducing inflammation broadly, we will also reduce inflammation in the joint and the cartilage is going to be less damaged.

Memories improved because the cellular respiration is improved. This has to do all with the Krebs cycle that I mentioned. There are significant warnings applied, and that’s specifically for people using SSRI drugs and MAOI drugs. So if you are on any of that, you definitely must work with a health professional.

As far as dosing goes, it goes something like this, the therapeutic dose is 1mg/kg or half milligram per pound of body weight. We make our solution by putting ten grams of Methylene Blue into a liter of water. Well, a liter of solution. We actually put quite a bit of stuff in it. Our Methylene Blue is based on our MSM gold drops, which means it includes several minerals. Copper, zinc, silver, gold and the hyaluronic acid. So when we have ten grams into a liter, that means that we have ten milligrams into a milliliter. The milliliter is 20 drops, so that means that there is half a milligram per drop. So your high daily dose would be as many drops as you weigh in pounds. That would be the medical therapeutic dose. When you take a dose that high, you’re going to have significant effects. I actually take only 8 or 10 drops in a day, not 160. So you can see the blueness of it. Right. And so this is about 15 drops in the eyedropper. You can take it straight, but here’s what it does. Your mouth gets all blue, so it’s probably best if you drink some water after.

But it will leave your tongue quite blue, so expect that effect. It’s kind of fun to watch. I was looking at the science of it. It appears to deal with acetylcholine. It is boosting the acetylcholine, acetylcholine is a chemical. The receptors for acetylcholine are involved in a lot of functions in the autonomic nervous system.

So it will reverse the natural die off, the senescence of the cells. That’s what you can expect of it.

We have it in two sizes. This is a four ounce. We have a one ounce size for people who want to try it. And then a low dose. I mean, I take some somewhere around ten drops a day. My high dose therapeutic dose if I had one of those illnesses, like a stroke or Parkinson’s or something like that. Because I am about 170 pounds, I should be taking about 170 drops. So that would be eight droppers of this every day. I only take one.

But as I mentioned, when I took a double or triple dose, it very quickly reduced a bunch of symptoms that I was experiencing. So I would encourage you to explore it. I looked online, there is a great deal of interest. There are great many Methylene Blue videos on YouTube. Most people saying things just similar to what you heard me explain here. The reach is broad. I’ve looked for side effects. I’ve looked for any reasons why I would not take it. I couldn’t find anything other than long term high level use, which I’m not expecting to do. The long term downside is it exists if you do a high dose, it will have a completely opposite effects to what you expect. So don’t be sustaining a very high dose for very long. Other than that, no concerns.

It will repair most every tissue. It will support oxygen availability, which means that you will be aging slower or perhaps even reversing.

Methylene Blue has been used traditionally in microscopy in studying of tissues, staining. Right. When you need to try and tell things apart you use a staining color. And Methylene Blue is one of the standard stains that has been used in microscopy.

And then the second question is, should I be using it every day to sustain the results? Well, it’s like with anything else, right? Like you are breathing all the time. You’re generating energy all the time. That means that you’re generating oxidative stress all the time. So when you have antioxidants, they are reducing the oxidative stress. Methylene Blue being one of those things.

Actually, Methylene Blue is interesting because it’s on both sides of the equations. It supports redox as in reduction and oxidation. It supports the transactions in both directions. So it’s really handy to have that on board because it will enable the energy transactions to work more effectively. So should you take it every day? I’m demonstrating to myself that even at just the, 15 to 20 drops a day, I’m doing fine. Rather than pushing it to the clinical dose of 160, 180 drops. Give it a shot. Try it. See what dose might work for you. Yeah, there is a side effect with this blue coloring, but it goes away, right? Like after I go eat, all of this will go away.

It is funny looking, right? Like my entire mouth is stained right now. But I’m telling you, as soon as I eat, it will be gone. So that’s my story. This has been Martin Pytela with Methylene Blue lips. Thank you for being here. You can find me at life-enthusiast.com And (866) 543-3388. Thank you for being here.

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Podcast 477: Phylamet

In today’s episode, we’re delighted to have Spencer Feldman return as our knowledgeable guest to delve into his latest innovation, Phylamet. Join us as we learn about the benefits of supplementing with Short Chain Fatty Acids (SCFAs). We will explore how this cutting-edge micro enema contributes to maintaining optimal colon pH and promoting microbiome health.

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MARTIN: Hello, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast. And today with me, my favorite researcher into the “things health”, Spencer Feldman, the CEO of Remedy Link. Spencer Feldman, welcome to the show.

SPENCER: Nice to see you again, Martin.

MARTIN: Yeah, real pleasure actually. So in your relentless pursuit of making humanity healthy. You find yet another angle to pursue, right?

SPENCER: I keep trying to retire, Martin, and then I just keep going down rabbit holes and finding new things. So let me tell you what I found out this time.

MARTIN: Sure, do that.

SPENCER: So when scientists and doctors began to understand the importance of the microbiome to our health, which is the bacteria that’s living inside the gut that does so many things, and if you’re new to the microbiome, maybe, Martin, if you could put a link to our previous talks on the microbiome, that will explain to you why it’s so important. When we first all started looking at that microbiome, initially, the focus was on probiotic supplementation. I mean, people have been doing fermented foods like kimchi and yogurt for thousands of years. They’re helpful. And so that was the first thing that was made as a supplement in terms of microbiome.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: But then they started getting genetic testing advances and we were able to map out the bacteria in the microbiome. And what we found out was, even with a lot of antibiotics, it’s rare that a good bacteria was completely wiped out. Usually it was just knocked down and dormant, but it was still there. So yes, antibiotics and chlorinated water and pesticides like glyphosate really knock them down, but don’t knock them completely out. Even if you have 1% there, you can regrow it.

MARTIN: So as long you feed it, right?

SPENCER: As long as you feed it, right. They’re there in a dormant state usually. So that’s the next realization. Since the bacteria are there just in small numbers, let’s supply the prebiotics or oligosaccharides. That is their food source so they can increase in number. And prebiotics are really important to keep the remaining good bacteria alive. But what we found is that, and we make a product that you carry called Panaceum. And one of the interesting things about Panaceum is, for a lot of people, within about two weeks, you may find you don’t need toilet paper anymore because no healthy animal needs toilet paper. The need for toilet paper indicates your microbiome is ill. But the issue is, now we find that even if you give the prebiotics; for some people, until you knock down the bad bacteria, there’s no surface area for them to grow and colonize and increase. Once the bad bacteria gets a foothold in the digestive tract and establishes a biofilm, it’s nearly impossible to get rid of it. They’re happy to live in our guts, continually generating inflammatory lipids, toxic gasses, putrefying amines, poisonous gasses, our whole lives.

So to regain our health, a lot of us need to knock these bad bacteria down so they’ll stop making these toxins and then they can, then we can take the prebiotics to regrow our good bacteria and recover, reclaim our gut.

MARTIN: Okay, so there are different segments to the gut, right? We have the small intestine and the large intestine and there are different terrains and different species growing in these two segments, right?

SPENCER: Yeah. And we’re going to go through, we’re going to do, take a little tour of the whole digestive tract in a second. So I spent, so basically what I did is I spent what ended up being quite a bit of time going through medical journals and studies trying to find a way to knock down the bad bacteria. But everything I found that killed the bad bacteria was even more detrimental to the good bacteria.

And so eventually I prayed, God, I can’t figure this out. I know you made something or a few things that will go after the bad bacteria and not hurt the good bacteria. Will you please put it in front of me? And so I’m continuing to go through the medical journals. And then I found the answer in one single sentence in a medical journal. And the answer is really simple, but to understand why to do the protocol that I’m gonna share with your audience at the end of the podcast, there’s some biology I think would be useful for us to go through first. So, there’s the teaser.

Okay, so first, let’s talk a little bit about the nature of the bad bacteria that we need to deal with. Now, bacteria can be roughly divided into two types based on their cell walls. We have gram positive and gram negative. And as a general rule, the gram positive are good for us and the gram negative cause trouble. So let’s take a trip down the digestive tract and see if this hold true. In the mouth, it’s predominantly gram negative bacteria that cause gum disease and tooth loss. In the stomach, it’s gram negative bacteria like H. pylori that causes stomach ulcers. In the small and large intestine, it’s the gram negative bacteria of the enterobacter class that cause disease. And it’s not just the digestive tract either. Ecoli can escape the digestive tract and it’s gram negative and it causes, I think 87% of all prostate infections and a lot of UTIs. Salmonella can escape the digestive tract. It’s gram negative and it can create gallstones in the gallbladder. Proteobacter is gram negative. It can escape a gut and get into the joints and cause arthritis and so on.

MARTIN: One thing that really stopped me recently was I’m looking at Salmonella Typhi.

SPENCER: Yes, Typhi.

MARTIN: And I’m thinking, why are we calling it Salmonella? It’s the good old typhoid.

SPENCER: Because not all Salmonella are typhoid.

MARTIN: Right, sure enough. But, right, like we had recently had this Salmonella outbreak up in Canada where 80 people went to hospital and seven people died.

SPENCER: Yeah, and we’ll get into that too. I mean, as an example there’s good Clostridia and then there’s Clostridia C. difficile, right? And what is it that shifts a neutral or good bacteria to become bad is part of what we’re gonna be talking about today. So as we just mentioned, as you go through the entire digestive tract and even into the body, it’s the gram negative that are causing most of the trouble. Now there are some good gram negative bacteria, but even these we wanna keep to a minimum. Gram negative should be no more by my reckoning than 10% of the microbiome. But for a lot of us, it’s 50% or more. Now, the difference between the Gram-negative and Gram-positive bacteria are the membranes that they’re made out of. So for Gram-positive, their cell wall, their membrane, is mostly peptidoglycan, which is a mixture of protein and sugar. The Gram-negative, on the other hand, their cell wall is called a lipopolysaccharide, or LPS for short. And we’re going to talk about LPS a lot. And that’s a mix of fat and sugar.

Now, Gram-negative has a more complex membrane than Gram-positive. And this complex membrane makes them much more resistant to almost anything you can throw at them, whether it’s a natural antimicrobial herb or an antibiotic. So this membrane is why almost anything we do to knock out the Gram-negative ends up causing more damage to the Gram-positive. And so,

MARTIN: I guess we could call them more fragile, less resilient, because their skin is thinner, so to speak.

SPENCER: Um.

MARTIN: Or less resilient.

SPENCER: It’s this difference in the membrane that makes the gram negative just so resilient.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: Now it’s the gram negative that has a gram negative bacteria as a general rule to create the toxins I’ve mentioned earlier. That’s the inflammatory lipids, lipopolysaccharide LPS, toxic acids, poisonous gasses, and putrefying amines. So let’s look at these toxins one by one.

First, let’s look at the inflammatory lipids. The lipopolysaccharide, the LPS cell wall of gram-negative bacteria, is incredibly inflammatory. It’s actually one of the most inflammatory things we know of, and it causes all sorts of problems. It causes a leaky gut. And what that means is now undigested food gets into the bloodstream along with bacteria that’s in the gut that can translocate and get into other organs.

It causes a leaky brain. The blood brain barrier will also leak as a result of LPS. It’ll cause a leaky heart, the pericardium can leak. It can cause a leaky liver when the peritoneum leaks. And in women, if the peritoneum leaks, now toxins are going into the ovaries and into the eggs because there’s no protection, there’s no membrane around the eggs. Now, a man makes sperm fresh daily, so if something happens to be toxic at one point in time, within a month, that’s all that cleared out and now there’s fresh, healthy sperm. A woman has to safeguard her eggs. The eggs she has when she’s born or gestating are all the eggs she’s ever gonna have her whole life. And if a woman has a leaky peritoneum and her eggs are getting toxic, that can affect her children. LPS causes leaky capillaries, which lowers albumin. And when albumin goes down, well, IQ goes down, lifespan goes down, cancer risk goes up.

And actually people don’t look as good because when you look at someone and say, wow, you’ve got glowing, healthy skin, you look really great, that’s albumin in their skin. So what does the body then do to deal with all these little leaks, all these holes that have been poked in all the membranes? Well, the body uses a kind of cholesterol called LDL, specifically lipoprotein A. And this is considered the bad cholesterol. And so there’s drugs and protocols saying, let’s lower the lipoprotein A. Okay, that’s fine, but why is it there?

It’s there to plug up the holes from the LPS. So if you have sticky bad cholesterol associated with heart disease and high LDLs, it’s probably gram-negative bacteria. And rather than push those down and leave all the holes everywhere, I think of it as like, you know, if someone has got lots of holes in their wooden ship and you go around and you plug it up with little plugs of wood and pitch. Okay, you could say, well, there’s all this pitch on my ship. I’m like, yeah, it’s keeping your boat from sinking. Right? Don’t just pull out all the, don’t just pull out all the plugs without, you’ve got to deal with the LPS. It’s causing the holes in the first place.

What, what else does it do? LPS is highly inflammatory because when the body sees LPS, it thinks, oh, I must have a systemic infection. So the immune system goes on red alert and to have your immune system on red alert continuously is exhausting and inflammatory to the body. LPS damages the mitochondria, it raises blood pressure, it lowers the Hayflick limit causing premature cellular senescence, which in other words means it basically decreases the maximum lifespan you have. So, and it does more. I mean, we could spend all day talking about it.

MARTIN: I actually want to plug in a point here, which is the lowering the LDL, right? The flagship product of the pharmaceutical industry is a cholesterol lowering drug. And they make billion dollars doing it. And you just told me that’s just like cutting off the wiring that causes the firearm to go off.

SPENCER: Well, now you have an understanding of why, even though there are drugs that can lower cholesterol, it doesn’t really do much to change heart attack and stroke risk.

MARTIN: Yeah, you’re just shutting off the noise.

SPENCER: Yeah, exactly. Or your car’s got an emergency light showing in the dashboard and you just hit it with a hammer. I’m like, yeah, your light’s gone out, but that’s not a great idea.

Okay, so the first toxin we need to deal with is LPS. Now the next set of toxins created by bad bacteria are toxic short chain fatty acids. Now I classify short chain fatty acids into three categories, good, intermediary, and toxic. The good short chain fatty acids are acetic acid, which is what vinegar is, propionic acid and butyric acid. And they’re created by the good bacteria. And they’re all very similar, except that they have two, three, or four carbons respectively. So small, medium, and large versions are the same thing. Those are the good short chain fatty acids. Now, you have intermediary short chain fatty acids. These are lactic acid and succinic acid.

Now in a healthy microbiome, these get created, but then are immediately or very quickly eaten by other bacteria to then make the good short chain fatty acids. So they’re there, but just temporarily. They only become toxic if there’s a lack of the other bacteria that would eat them and then they build up and then you’ve got problems.

MARTIN: I mean, lactic acid has a pretty bad reputation in other ways, right?

SPENCER: Well, lactic acid can be great for you, but it’s all how much do you have, right? Now there’s also the D or the L form, which gets us down another rabbit hole. So then there’s the toxic short chain fatty acids. These are acids like formic acid, which is what’s in the sting venom of an ant, or valeric acid, or isovaleric acid, and isobutyric acid, things like this. These are toxic short chain fatty acids made by toxic bacteria. They’re often very much like the good short chain fatty acids just with a tiny little twist of a molecule, little change, like shadow versions of the good ones. Now, the toxic short chain fatty acids are highly inflammatory, they imbalance the immune system, cause diabetes, generate ammonia which leads to brain fog and Parkinson’s. They cause heart and liver and brain damage, and here’s an interesting one, they reverse the Krebs cycle and that’s how cancer forms. Normally the Krebs cycle takes matter and then burns it to generate energy, which is ATP. But the Krebs cycle can go backwards, it could go in reverse and take energy and create matter, which is the mass that cancer cells use to build tumors up so quickly. So you don’t want your Krebs cycle going backwards, you want it going forwards.

MARTIN: Interestingly, cancer in its cycles produces lactic acid instead of CO2, carbon dioxide. So that’s kind of an interesting thing.

SPENCER: Yeah, yeah. So that’s one of the connections between intermediary short-chain fatty acids and cancer also. And there’s a couple of spots on the Krebs cycle wherein it’s going backwards, where it can kind of get jammed up and it needs, I think, iron and a certain type of iron in order to completely go through the Krebs cycle backwards easily. So if you’re thinking that you want, if someone’s thinks that they want to keep their Krebs cycle from going backwards, then an iron chelator, you could look at our Medicardium product, is something you might want to consider just so it doesn’t have an easier time of going backwards like that.

MARTIN: Uh-huh, and so the mantra of keep your hemoglobin high or keep your iron high may not necessarily serve, right?

SPENCER: Right, so you never want your iron high. That’s why women before menopause have a lower risk of a lot of diseases than men because they’re bleeding once a month.

MARTIN: The hemochromatosis, right?

SPENCER: Sure. Lyme disease is another thing that happens more after menopause, heart disease is after menopause, and then it’s the iron coming up. It’s highly inflammatory. It’s the Fe3. There’s Fe2 and Fe3, and the Fe3, the oxidized iron, is the really inflammatory one. And actually EDTA, which is found in Medicardium, has a really great affinity for the bad form of iron. So there’s something to consider.

MARTIN: Definitely.

SPENCER: Now, the next set of toxins I want to talk about are the putrefying amines. These are things you may have heard of like TMAO, which is associated with strokes and atherosclerosis and heart attacks. There’s the putrescine and cadaverine. These are the amines responsible for the smell of corpses. Then there is a 4-EP and what that does is it demyelinates nerves and the brain and is associated with autism and other neurologic disorders. So, these things are responsible for the smell of bad fish, bad meats, or corpses. You don’t want them in your body. The other thing is if you’ve got a lot of amines in the body, then the body has less capacity to then get rid of histamine, and then you can end up with allergies and histamine disorders.

So if you’ve got a histamine disorder, you may also have an amine, a toxic amine issue going on. Now, rather than necessarily get into all the things that toxic amines will create, which is another hour long conversation. It would take hours to talk about all the terrible things that toxic amines do in our body. And that could be another talk we do. So what do all these toxic amines have in common? Well, they’re all made from animal proteins that weren’t absorbed in the small intestine. So cadaverine is made from lysine and putrescine can be made from ornithine or arginine. TMAO is made from choline or carnitine and 4-EPS is made from tyrosine.

Now it’s not that eating meat is bad. I eat meat at almost every meal. It’s eating more meat than you can digest and absorb. So when you eat more meat than you can digest and absorb, it spills into the large intestine and then now we have the issue of generating toxic, putrefying amines.

MARTIN: All right. So how much concern should I carry forward taking free form aminos, including for example, arginine?

SPENCER: It depends on the amount, right? How much can your small intestine absorb? When you go past that point, you’re getting the toxic amines. We’ll get into the diet at the end of this, and we can talk a little bit more about that. So, the last set of toxins I want to address are the poisonous gasses. And these are methane, hydrogen sulfide, and the other sulfides, and ammonia.

In a healthy colon, good bacteria make carbon dioxide and hydrogen as intermediary gasses.

which are then turned into good short-chain fatty acids like acetic acid by the acetogenic bacteria like clostridia. However, if we don’t have clostridia to do this, then the hydrogen and CO2 builds up. Now, some of it gets breathed out, some of it is actually good for you. Carbon dioxide is good for the nerves and hydrogen is an antioxidant. But when it gets to a certain point, then it starts coming out as flatulence and then some of it is going to start feeding

the methanogens, which are going to turn the CO2 and the hydrogen into methane. Now methane paralyzes the intestines and will cause constipation and sometimes cramping and can more than double the transit time. So now we’ve got things going bad in our guts, because they’re just sitting there for extended periods of time. So methane can also cause memory loss, headache, fatigue, eye problems, rapid breathing, rapid heart rate, fainting, abnormal emotions, and then a shortened Hayflick limit, just like the LPS, which is decreasing our maximum lifespan.

MARTIN: Yeah, none of these smell. Hydrogen, CO2, or methane, they don’t smell like anything. You could have flatulence, but it will not smell.

SPENCER: That’s true. But the next poisonous gas is hydrogen sulfide, or dimethyl sulfide and mercaptan and those do smell, that’s the rotten egg smell you get in certain flatulence. Now, these are made when sulfate reducing bacteria, also known as SRBs, combine sulfur in the diet with hydrogen. Now, hydrogen sulfide and that family of things causes sleep apnea, headache, irritability, insomnia, fatigue, stomach upset, DNA damage. And again is responsible for the bad smell of flatulence. Of course it causes more than that. I’m just hitting some of the main ones.

Now the last poisonous gas I want to discuss is ammonia. Ammonia is formed by the deamination or the removal of ammonia from an amino acid or protein. Now in a healthy digestive system, protein is digested into amino acids and is absorbed in the small intestine. It doesn’t get to the large intestine. But again, when a person eats more protein than they can digest and absorb, it gets into the colon, the large intestine. And especially in the absence of the bacteria’s preferred food source, which is the prebiotics like you’d find in Panaceum, the result of this is ammonia or ammonium.

Now, good gut bacteria have enzymes specifically to detoxify ammonia, but they can only do so much. And as they reach their limit, the ammonia will go to the liver and then the liver will try to lower ammonia and they use the exact same enzymes that the bacteria uses ALT, AST, GDH, GS. But the liver can only do so much and when it gets past the liver’s capacity and now the liver is damaged. The ammonia starts to spill into the bloodstream out of the damaged liver into the bloodstream. And there, it goes into general circulation. And again, we could talk about ammonia toxicity for hours, but let me just share a couple of things. It goes in because ammonia is mildly alkaline; it gets into the lysosomes, which are mildly acidic, and now the lysosomes are shot. They can’t do their job of recycling materials. So inside the cells are your lysosomes and they act as recycling and incineration and landfill centers. They will recycle used cellular materials, incinerate toxins, and then work as a landfill to hold onto toxins they can’t break down. And we talked about that in our Albedextrin talk.

So lysosomes are vitally important for the detoxification of the cells and ammonia will completely render them useless.

MARTIN: I’d like to give it some sort of a body effect, is it like understanding what that feels like? Because when you’re converting ammonia into urea, that’s the chemical pathway, right?

SPENCER: Mhm.

MARTIN: If you have too much of that, you’re starting to get gout..

SPENCER: Gout. I believe, is uric acid.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: Urea is a different one. Sounds the same.

MARTIN: Are you sure?

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: So I’m just hearing the words and making the wrong connection?

SPENCER: It’s just, the words are very close. Gout is a disorder of, I think it’s purines and they form crystals in the joints.

MARTIN: Interestingly, just because I ran into gout happening to people who eat too much protein, but also happening to people who eat too much carbohydrate.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: Too much insulin, right? So it comes from two different ends. But so, okay, so you’re saying, no, no, no, that’s not it.

SPENCER: That’s a different one. It’s a complicated topic. The body is a complicated place. So the ammonia,

MARTIN: I need to discern urea and uric.

SPENCER: Yes, yes. So urea is how the body takes carbon dioxide and mixes it with ammonia and then it turns into urea, which you could then urinate out. And we’re gonna go back to what happens if, one of the problems that can happen is-

We’re going to get into carbon dioxide and hydrogen again in a minute and we’ll come back to that. So the ammonia gets into all the lysosomes and damages the lysosomes. It is also specifically damaging to the brain and the nerves in the brain and the glial cells, the astrocytes of the brain which protect the nerves. It’s a real problem for the brain. It causes memory loss, ADHD, insomnia. The symptoms of ammonia toxicity and Parkinson’s are so alike that I tend to think that Parkinson’s is ammonia toxicity. Lou Gehrig’s disease, MS, a lot of neurologic problems are associated with the high levels of ammonia. Now, finally, ammonia is an alkaline substance and this causes the microbiome, which should be acidic, to become more alkaline or actually shift past seven and become alkaline. And this it turns out, is the key to the whole problem we started with, how do we get the bad bacteria out?

Okay, and as a side note, if your colon goes alkaline, you also can’t absorb minerals. If you’re a farmer or gardener, you know you want your soil to be a little acidic, so the minerals can get absorbed. When the soil goes alkaline, the minerals get locked up, you can’t use them. Same thing happens in the colon. The colon is where we absorb minerals, and if it goes alkaline, you could take minerals all day long, they may not be absorbed.

Okay, now it’s so vitally important that the pH of your gut of your stool anyway, be 6.6 or lower, you know, about 6.6, that the good bacteria does all it can to keep it from going above 6.6 because below 6.6, which is slightly acidic, ammonia, which is NH3, is in the ammonium form, which is NH4, and ammonium is not as absorbable as ammonia. So the good bacteria is going to take the ammonia and try to knock it down, try to keep the pH below 6.6 so the ammonia doesn’t go into the liver and cause problems, that it stays as ammonium. And this keeps it out of the liver and out of general circulation. However, once the pH goes above 6.6, the ammonium turns into ammonia and all heck breaks loose. Once the pH crosses over 6.6, that’s like the Rubicon in the gut, the gram-negative bacteria become virtually impossible to get rid of. And once the gram-negative bacteria get the upper hand, you get the toxic short-chain fatty acids, the putrefying amines and the poisonous gasses and the whole thing goes in a downward vicious spiral.

On the other hand, if you can get the microbiome to be 6.6 or a little more acidic, there’s a weakness that the gram-negative bacteria have that we could take advantage of.

MARTIN: Yeah, I would like to just bracket this so people understand. There’s a lot of talk about, oh, I’m too acidic or whatever. The different stages of the eliminative system. The mouth is alkaline, the stomach is acidic, the small intestine is alkaline, the large intestine is acidic. So in, out, in, out, across the divide, right? And you need to understand that actually you need mildly acidic colon.

SPENCER: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you’ve ever canned food, you know that you don’t can low acid foods because you can get botulism. What you want to do is can acidic foods or add a little acid to it because we know that a lot of bad bacteria don’t do so well when it’s acidic and it’s the same for the gut, right?

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: So here’s the fun thing that happens. Here’s our light at the end of the tunnel. At a pH of 6.6, what happens is the good short chain fatty acids can penetrate or actually even get pumped through the membrane of the gram-negative bacteria. Now, the short chain fatty acids are mild acids, so they don’t trigger an alarm inside the gram-negative bacteria, which if they did would create heat shock proteins and then the gram-negative bacteria have mechanisms to deal with that. So it’s this mild acid that sneaks on in, and over time, the pH of the toxic bacteria, these gram-negative bacteria, gets more and more acidic until either they die or they go dormant. The term for dormancy is, let me see, a VBNC, viable but non-culturable, which means it’s there, but it’s not growing.

MARTIN: Hmm.

SPENCER: Now, the good bacteria, the gram-positive good bacteria, on the other hand, aren’t bothered by the good short-chain fatty acids. They have a lot of different ways in which they can deal with them. They can pump them out. They can neutralize them with potassium. They’ve got a lot of things that they do that make it so that they’re not bothered. Good short-chain fatty acid also inhibits gram-negative biofilms, knocks out gram-negative flagella, which is, so the biofilms are what protects the gram-negative from the immune system and from other agents that might kill them. The flagella and knocks their flagella out, which means they can’t move around. It interferes with their quorum sensing, which is how they communicate. All in all, good short chain fatty acids in an acidic environment is the holy grail for reclaiming your microbiome from the gram-negative bacteria. And this is such a key point. I’m going to say it one more time. Good short chain fatty acids in an acidic environment is the holy grail of reclaiming your microbiome from toxic gram-negative bacteria.

MARTIN: In the colon.

SPENCER: Well, yes, in the colon. It actually is body-wide. Short chain fatty acids protect against infections across the whole body. But for now, we’re just talking about the gut. So that’s the key. That’s the sentence I found in a medical journal that was a secret to recovering the good microbiome. It’s the one thing I found that the weakness for the gram negative, that doesn’t hurt the gram-positive. You can knock out gram negative bacteria if the colon pH is 6.6 or a little more acidic and you have short chain fatty acids. This will kill or suppress the bad bacteria. And then you don’t have the toxic acids or the putrefying amines or the poisonous gasses they make. Now, before I tell you how to do that, let’s see how this plays out in the colon. Okay.

In a healthy colon, we have bacteria called Firmicutes and lactic acid producing bacteria or LAB, like Bifidus. Bifidus is like the plankton of the ecosystem. It’s the base. It’s what everything else relies on.

Let’s talk about how the lactic acid bacteria and the Bifidus are like the base of your microbiome. The lactic acid producing bacteria make lactic acid, which we talked about as a intermediary short chain fatty acid. And this lowers the pH, because like you said, coming out of the small intestine, it’s alkaline, right? So when the food enters the stomach, the acid of the stomach makes it acidic to break down proteins and to disinfect it. And then the bile of the small intestine makes it alkaline. So now we’re making it acidic again. It’s the lactic acid from the LAB bacteria.

that lowers the pH to 5, 5.5. And what this does is it suppresses the methanogens, which would otherwise make methane, and favors instead acetic acid production, which we need. Now, at the same time, the Bifidus, which is also there, directly competes with fungi that would otherwise like to grow in an acidic environment. Bifidus grows, Bifidus is something called an actinobacteria. We actually used to think that it was a fungus because it grows like a fungus. It looks like a fungus.

But Bifidus as a bacteria grows two and a half times faster than the fungus. Now, you know that the bacteria and fungi, they have this kind of war going on, right? So they’re fighting each other. So the fungi produce antibiotics. That’s where we got penicillin from to kill the bacteria. And the bacteria create antifungals to kill the fungi. So when you get the Bifidus properly growing, then it can go after the candida that’s otherwise would like that acidic location in the ascending colon. So methanogens, they prefer a pH of 6.5 to 7.5. So you take it down and you don’t make methane. All right. So as we continue to move into the transverse colon, the lactic acid bacteria continue to feed the firmicutes such as clostridium. And these make the majority of our butyric acid. And butyric acid is now a common supplement because we know that it helps with leaky gut. But remember, it’s not just the leaky gut. We need to seal up all the membranes that are leaking, the leaky brain, the leaky peritoneum, the leaky heart, the leaky joints, all of it.

Now, as the lactic acid is converted into butyric and acetic acids, the pH rises up to about 6.2 because there’s less acidic than the lactic acid, which is highly acidic.

And then what happens is in the descending colon, the firmicutes, which are also gram-positive, transition into the gram-negative Bacteroides and Akkermansia, which is a good version of chlamydia, and now you get propionic acid. And with this, the last of the lactic acid is consumed and the pH rises to about 6.6. And you’ve got, out of the entire digestive tract, you have a little section that’s gram-negative doing what you need. Yes, it makes a little bit of lipopolysaccharide, but as long as your gut isn’t leaking, it won’t go anywhere, and the other good bacteria can deal with that. All right, that’s what’s supposed to happen.

Now, in a pathological microbiome, it goes down a different path. Antibiotics, pesticides, chlorinated water, and lack of breastfeeding lower Bifidus in the ascending colon. And without Bifidus, the candida gets in. The Bifidus may still be there, and you’re still going to have Bifidus, but additionally, when you don’t have the proper oligosaccharides, the prebiotics, like you might find in our Panaceum product, the Bifidus that is there can start making formic acid instead of lactic acid, and then the Krebs cycle can start going backwards, which as we said, is how cancer starts. The formic acid along with the higher pH causes the methanogens to start growing. So now methane is starting to accumulate and this has a paralytic effect in the intestines. So now, everything just sits there longer and the slower the transit time, the more alkaline the gut gets. So now we’ve got issues with the ileocecal valve because everything’s getting paralyzed and damaged. And without enough Bifidus and lactic acid levels, the pH rises up to 6.0 or higher.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: Now, as we move into the transverse colon, the lack of lactic acid from the Bifidus and LAB doesn’t feed the firmicutes which makes most of our butyric acids or butyric acid levels drop. So leaky gut gets and leaky membranes get worse. And the firmicutes get replaced with the gram-negative bacteroides. And so now we’re gonna have a lot more of the LPS, the inflammatory lipopolysaccharides. The bacteroides go up and then the pH starts to rise above 6.6. The lack of short-chain fatty acids and the rise in pH triggers the good bacteria to go rogue. And an example of this is good Clostridia being replaced with the toxic and pathogenic C. difficile, clostridium difficile form.

MARTIN: Yeah, classic for the people who have autistic problems, right? C. difficile is classically found in the gut of people with autistic symptoms.

SPENCER: Yes, and highly disturbed levels of gasses and highly disturbed levels of short-chain fatty acids. Okay, so as we move into the descending colon, the pH goes above 6.6 to seven and higher and ammonia is now being formed. The gram-negative bacteroides growth is further stimulated by the ammonia and they take the ammonia and carbon dioxide and create short-chain fatty acids like acetate, propionate, and succinate and hydrogen. Now, the issue is the higher hydrogen level and the lack of the hydrogen CO2 level is something that isn’t yet talked about. I haven’t seen anybody talk about it yet in microbiomes, but it’s really important because if you have too much hydrogen and not enough carbon dioxide, instead of making acetic acid, you in turn feed them the methanogens and you make methane. Now this increases the methane levels and then the sulfate-reducing bacteria, which eat up two thirds of butyric acid we have increases our hydrogen sulfide levels. And eventually the Bacteroides and methanogens and the sulfate reducing bacteria can’t process the excess ammonia. And it pushes the colon into a hyperalkaline state, spills into the liver, causes liver damage, gets into the brain, causes nerve damage. And that’s the mess that we’re all dealing with. Well, a lot of us are at some level, going down that path over time.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, it’s actually quite common. All you have to do is just go to a public restroom somewhere and it won’t take you too long to find somebody leaving a horrendous thing behind.

SPENCER: Right. That’s an issue. You know, this has been getting worse since we’ve been taking records back in 1926. I think the pH of the infant colons was like 5.0 to 5.5, right? So now, the pH has been getting more and more alkaline with more and more use of antibiotics and pesticides and bad foods. Also, as we get older, the colon goes more and more alkaline. So it’s a function not only of our environment but also of age.

So another thing that happens is the lack of lactic acid in the ascending colon combined with the alkaline shift from ammonia production in the descending colon can trigger the growth of pathogenic neutrophilic gram-negative bacteria. Neutrophilic meaning it likes a neutral pH. So that’s bacteria like E. coli, salmonella, typhoid, pseudomonas, and then like the rogue gram-positive bacteria like C. diff. These like the near alkaline conditions. And when you,

MARTIN: Would this be on a blood test when you look at neutrophils that they usually check in labs, that’s where they show up?

SPENCER: Okay, so neutrophil is different from neutrophilic. So it’s the same phrase. Neutrophilic is a bacteria that likes to live in a neutral environment. Whereas a neutrophil is the white blood cell that moves around and eats things. So, okay, that’s the bad news, right? The good news is you can return your microbiome to a healthy state. And here’s what we want to do.

We want to clear bad bacteria from the mouth because if you have bacteria in the mouth and you’re swallowing it all day long, it’s constantly, it’s like the opposite of a probiotic. It’s feeding bad bacteria into the gut. You want to restart lactic acid production in the ascending colon. You want to re acidify the colon. You want to increase the short chain fatty acids. You want to shift the gram-positive towards, you want to shift the gram positive gram negative ratio back to gram positive predominantly.

You want to get rid of the fatty acids and poisonous gasses, get rid of the polyamines, and then reclaim territory for good bacteria to take over. I know that’s a lot. So let’s start at the top, in the mouth. So, using alcohol-based mouthwash is just a terrible idea because alcohol kills gram positive, the good bacteria, more than it kills gram-negative. And then when the alcohol starts to evaporate at a low enough level, alcohol will actually feed gram-negative. So people get addicted to mouthwash because they take it and their mouth feels clean, but a few hours later or later in that day or the next morning, their mouth is, they have less good gram positive and more bad gram negative and they need the mouthwash even more and they get stuck in a vicious cycle. So don’t use alcohol-based mouthwashes. If you have access to a medical-grade ozone machine, you can ozonate water and rinse your mouth out with that. Ozone is the only disinfectant I’m aware of that does more damage to gram-negative than gram-positive. However.

MARTIN: I guess you could suggest then maybe the hydrogen peroxide or..

SPENCER: No, no, the only one is ozone, not chlorine, not chlorinated disinfectants,

MARTIN: Not hydrogen. I’m sure of that, but I’m thinking hydrogen peroxide.

SPENCER: Nope. It’ll do more damage to good to gram-positive.

MARTIN: Okay.

SPENCER: It’s just ozone and nothing, no other disinfectant will do that I’m aware of. Okay. The other option is there are certain polyphenols that you can use. Now polyphenols normally knock out good and bad bacteria, both, however, we’ve been eating polyphenols for so long in our diet that our good gram-positive bacteria have gotten used to them and can actually eat them. So there’s two polyphenols that I like, that’s ellagitannin and galotannin, and we have them both in our Ellagica product. So what you can do is you can open up a capsule of Ellagica before you go to sleep at night, kind of swish it around your mouth. It’s going to give you a very astringent feeling in your mouth. And then when you wake up, see how your mouth feels, see how fresh it feels. Because what we have done, what you’re doing is when you give polyphenols or specifically those two types, you’re feeding the gram positive and knocking down the gram negative, which is exactly what you want.

Okay, there’s the mouth. Now number two, restart lactic acid production. The best way to increase Bifidus is not to take Bifidus, although you might need it if you’ve completely wiped it out. The best way is actually to feed the Bifidus. And you can do that with our Panaceum and also with resistant starch. So what you can do is, if you’re not allergic to nightshades, cook a potato or cook any starch and then refrigerate it for 24 hours and then eat it cold. Don’t heat it up. What happens when starch is cooled is it goes into a crystalline structure that becomes a kind of prebiotic that specifically feeds Bifidus. The other thing is..

MARTIN: So the good old potato salad, right?

SPENCER: Yeah, absolutely. Now you also might need to knock down some candida if you really want to support the Bifidus. And if you can tolerate it, some people like Saccharomyces boulardii, you can also add coconut oil to your diet because that’s antifungal.

MARTIN: So the good old sauerkraut is not necessarily the remedy here, huh?

SPENCER: Well, sauerkraut is going to give you an increase in histamine. It is going to acidify the gut. It’s going to have lactic acid in it. That’s great. But you’ve got to feed the Bifidus.

MARTIN: Uh, yeah.

SPENCER: By the time you’ve made sauerkraut, you’ve already used up all the fuel to make the short chain fatty acids. You need to put some of the fuel.

MARTIN: It’s just lactic acid and bacteria.

SPENCER: Which is fantastic and wonderful and great, but we need more. The next thing is we want to, there’s four more. Now then there’s four things in a row we’re going to talk about. We want to re acidify the colon. increase a good short chain fatty acids, shift to a gram positive dominant microbiome, get rid of the toxic fatty acids and then poisonous gasses. Actually I guess that’s five. One, two, three, four, five. Okay. All five of these are actually accomplished with a single protocol and that’s a short chain fatty acid enema. So if you were to take,

MARTIN: The magical word.

SPENCER: That’s what you’ve been waiting to hear. That’s the magic protocol. It’s two ounces of acetic acid, butyric acid, and propionic acid properly mixed in the right ratio with a few other things. And what that does at the right concentration will both reacidify the colon and deliver the good short chain fatty acids, which as you know, that takes us back to our one key sentence. Good short chain fatty acids in acidic environment will kill gram-negative bacteria. So, when you take the short chain fatty acids rectally, you are lowering the pH, you are increasing the short chain fatty acids, you’re knocking down the gram-negative bacteria. And when you do that, you knock down the production of toxic short chain fatty acids, the LPS, poisonous gasses, the ammonia and methane and hydrogen sulfide, and the toxic amines. So remember, these toxic gasses, ammonia, methane and hydrogen sulfide, really only start getting produced in massive numbers when the pH goes above 6.6. So let’s see now. Now the toxic amines,

MARTIN: I guess, well, let’s just put it here. So to find out what’s the pH is in your colon you need to take some of your feces and put a pH meter or pH paper on it, right?

SPENCER: Sure, what you do is you go buy some six to eight pH paper and you’re gonna have to defecate like on a paper plate or something, a little sample there, and put on a glove and press this, the pH paper against the stool and hold it there for a few seconds. And unless you’ve got very, very dry stool, which is then it’s gonna be a challenge, there should be enough moisture there to make the pH paper change color.

MARTIN: Yeah, even if you push into the middle of the matter.

SPENCER: Yeah, I guess if you have to break it in half and get into the part that’s a little damp. Thank you, great idea. Okay.

So that’s where you’re going to check your stool pH. And that’s something that is vitally important to know about your health. If you’ve got a child that’s going through colic or something, or you know, you’ve got to just, it’s such a simple thing to do and so profoundly important for your health to know your stool pH. Because we’ve already talked about all the things that happens when it goes alkaline.

Number seven, the toxic amines. These can be addressed in the same manner. However, if you wanna completely get rid of them, you have to make sure you’re not getting protein spillover into the large intestine. So again, don’t eat more protein than you can absorb. And then the last thing is to reclaim the territory, right? Once the bad bacteria have been killed or gone dormant, once the pH is normalized, now is when you can start taking probiotics and now is when the prebiotics are really gonna do their best good because now the good bacteria is in the right pH and it’s got the food to eat and it’s got a place to set up shop and it can displace the bad bacteria. So what does this protocol look like? So again, you’re gonna check your stool pH. And I like to see a pH of 6.5, 6.6. It’s hard to know what a perfect stool pH is because I haven’t seen, and I’ve looked, any data on the pH of primitive hunter-gatherer tribes. We know that at 6.6, you start to make ammonia and methane. So I’d say 6.6 is the Rubicon. That’s as high as you want and maybe even a little more acidic.

MARTIN: It could be below it.

SPENCER: Yeah, so I don’t know how much below it because you can go too acidic, but I would say 6.5 is probably where I’d aim. Now, the next thing is, so you’ve got your pH paper. The next thing you’re going to need is a rectal syringe. Now, don’t use an enema bag or a squeeze bottle. Just trust me on this. You can end up putting air into your colon, which is uncomfortable. What you do is go online, and for a few dollars, you can get a 60 ml catheter tip syringe. Or if you want a more comfortable experience, you can get a 50 ml glass rectal syringe with a rounded tip. Next, you’re going to need the short chain fatty acids. So if you want, make your own blend of short chain fatty acids. But if you’re not confident about the ratio and concentration and the other things you might want to put in, you can get our Phylamet blend.

Phylamet is the name of our product and it contains all of those good short-chain fatty acids, but it’s very concentrated so you can make a lot with it. So don’t use it undiluted. Follow the instructions on the bottle. Okay, so you get a fresh stool sample and you press the pH paper against it and you look at the color key on the pH paper and you know your stool pH. If your stool pH is already 6.6, congratulations. You might want to take the Phylamet orally as a supplement at the right concentration. But at 6.6, you probably don’t have to take it rectally. If it’s above 6.6, then you could consider taking it rectally. And so first, what you wanna do is make sure you’ve emptied your bowels. And then second, make sure that you have a few hours where you can relax and be near a bathroom. Because the first few times you take it, you can dump a lot of toxins out of the liver. You can have a lot of, some things can come out of you that you would want to have access to a bathroom for.

MARTIN: Yeah, you didn’t even know you carried around.

SPENCER: Yeah. So you mix the Phylamet as per the directions with some warm water and you take it rectally. Now, I understand nobody wants to do it in enema, but this isn’t a quart of water, like a retention enema. This is 60 ml or two ounces. So, assuming you have decent bowel control and you’ve already gone to the bathroom once you inject it in, you don’t have to be laying in a bathtub or anything. You can,

MARTIN: Go about.

SPENCER: Yeah, I wouldn’t say the first few times you do that you go and get in a car until you know how your body’s going to react because the first few times can be can the first the reactions you get the first few times, is some things can come out of you you weren’t expecting.

MARTIN: I can just visualize the person who has the urgency happening at the wrong time.

SPENCER: You can sit down if you like, but the best way to do it, if you can, is to lay on your back with the pillow under your hips. So your hips are a little bit above your belly button. So there’s a downward slant. So the Phylamet that goes and goes across the whole descending colon. And then after about five or 10 minutes, if you can turn to your right side, then what can happen is it can go across the transverse colon.

Okay. Now, you know, you could do this daily for a week, but every day you do it, check your pH. And you can also take, if you’re taking it rectally, you can also take it orally at the same time. Now, once your pH gets to 6.6 and stays, then you can stop taking it rectally and just continue orally if you like. But keep checking your pH, because if it starts going up again, you know, it hasn’t caught yet. It’s like trying to turn on an engine that hasn’t run properly in a long time. It runs and then it sputters. You want that engine fully turning over and running because once that engine is running, once you’re making all the short chain fatty acids you need, and once you’re feeding it with prebiotics, it will take care of itself, but it can take a little while to do that. How long? It depends on how alkaline your gut is and how long you’ve had the problem for. And you know, how many of your good bacteria have been knocked out.

All right. If you’re squeamish, you should know in advance that certain parasites don’t like short-chain fatty acids. So if you see some worms with a drop of blood or two, because they will let go of where they were biting on the colon and sucking blood, if you see some worms and a little drop of blood in the toilet, well, that can happen. The good news is you’re not going to see them typically moving around, they’re stunned. Now, if you’re a microbiologist listening to this, you’re probably thinking, wait a minute.

It takes a pH of 2.4 to kill parasites. You’re not suggesting we use something that acidic in the gut, are you? No, I’m not. But you don’t have to kill the parasites, just like you don’t have to kill the bad bacteria. It’s almost impossible to kill the bad bacteria, but you can make it go to sleep. And as long as it’s dormant until you die and are a corpse, then it can take you, right? It just shouldn’t be going after you while you’re alive.

Well, it’s the same with parasites, right? Parasites are typically filled with viruses and bacteria and toxic metals. You don’t want to kill them because then they break down and release all that toxic junk. They’re like a dump truck into your body. Much better to get them to leave the body with all their toxins and look for greener pastures elsewhere. So that’s what the shorter chain fatty acids do. They’re not necessarily killing the parasites. They’re just saying, hey, they’re looking for corpses to decompose just like the bad bacteria. If you’re full of putrescine and cadaverine, then yeah, they’re gonna hang out. But if you’re not making these toxic gasses and toxic acids and putrefying amines, and your pH is normal, and there’s short chain fatty acids there, they’re gonna be irritated, and they’re gonna be like, I don’t want to be here. And they let go, and out they come. So you might find that.

As a side note, if you end up seeing a lot of worms come out of you, you might consider our electron charger, putting that over the abdomen, because worms don’t like electricity either. And you could consider taking Notoplex rectally. Serrapeptase rectally for some reason is one of the only ways I’ve ever seen to get rid of liver flukes.

While the mainstay of the protocol is using short chain fatty acids rectally and in some cases orally there are some dietary things you can do, too. The first thing is you can eat resistant starch, specifically high potassium resistant starch, right? So that would be the tubers, potatoes or sweet potatoes. The reason you want to do the resistant starches is not only because they feed the bifidus which we need to prevent to get the ascending colon turned back on. But potassium is one of the main ways that our good gram positive bacteria is resistant to the short chain fatty acids. So you want to make sure you have potassium in your system.

Now resistant starch alone by feeding bifidus for some people that’s all they need and some people it will decrease the fecal pH from 7.2 to 6.6 and that’s it and they’re good. It just depends on how badly the microbiome has gotten wrecked. Now, another thing is you want to eat organically because the pesticide glyphosate, in addition to causing brain damage and leaky gut, kills gram-positive bacteria.

Three, don’t go on a low-carb diet, at least not for very long. Carbs feed your microbiome. Even good bifidus will make toxic formic acid, which is what triggers cancer, if the carbohydrate gets too low. So what I do is I do low-glycemic carbs, so I do things like beans. But you can also do higher glycemic things like oatmeal or potatoes or sweet potatoes if you refrigerate it because what you’re doing by turning it into the resistant starch is you’re lowering glycemic index.

You can also put a little bit of oil on it and that’ll slow its digestion too. So you can take a higher glycemic index carbohydrate and make it lower glycemic by refrigerating it for a day and putting a little oil on it. Another thing is at least initially minimize gluten, that’s wheat, rye and barley, at least until you’ve knocked the gram-negative and lipopolysaccharides down. Because gluten can also for some people cause leaky gut. Alright, don’t overdo fats. Remember in the beginning the lipopolysaccharide membrane that’s so inflammatory that gram-negative bacteria their membrane is made from is made out of fat. You want to minimize your fat absorption because if you eat too much fat, it will make lots of gram-negative bacteria.

MARTIN: So what we are finding in the book of metabolic typing is that we have some people who have adapted with through their ancestors to be more on the hunter gatherer type of a diet, which is higher in protein, higher in fat,

SPENCER: Mhm.

MARTIN: Lower in starch. And then there are the others, which are

totally not doing well on a higher fat, higher carb diet. And you need to adjust it to the genetics, to the genetics of your ancestors. There are definite differences between what one person will find optimal versus another.

SPENCER: Yes, but that’s all based on primitive people that didn’t have access to antibiotics that wrecked their microbiome. So what I would say is, first get your microbiome dialed in, meaning don’t eat a lot of oil which feeds the gram-negative. Once your microbiome is healthy, sure. If you want to eat more oil, great. It won’t be making gram-negative bacteria for you.

Another thing is don’t eat more protein. So what I do is I’ll put like a teaspoon of oil on every meal I eat. I like oil and I like to eat more, but I don’t. Don’t overdo protein. Don’t eat more protein than you can absorb. Yes, you can do a carnivore diet, but then you’re going to make ammonia.

MARTIN: That’s an interesting point you’re making. And yet there are, I’m thinking of Jordan Peterson and his family who’s very famous for eating beef.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: Period. Right? I wonder why or what’s going on.

SPENCER: So their microbiome is so shot. I’m not a medical doctor, so I can’t make that diagnosis. If someone’s microbiome is completely shot, then any carbohydrates they eat are just going to start creating toxic short-chain fatty acids and toxic gasses, and just be a complete mess, right? So for some people with a completely shot microbiome, it’s better to have no microbiome than a bad one. And so they just stop all carbohydrates and just starve their entire microbiome. But what would happen, what will people like this do if five, 10 years down the road, their body becomes allergic to meat because they’re so full of high ammonia that their brain and liver are starting to have problems and now they can’t eat meat. Now what can they eat, right? So I would much rather see people who are in that position that say, oh, I can’t do any carbs. I would much rather have them recover their microbiome and all the benefits it has so they can eat a healthy amount of carbs and also it’s a more enjoyable diet, not eating meat only all day long.

But yes, some people, that’s why they went there, because microbiome is so completely shot and they don’t know how to turn it around, as I’m suggesting with short-chain fatty acid enemas, that they can’t do any carbs whatsoever.

MARTIN: All right.

SPENCER: So Jordan, if you’re watching this, consider a short chain fatty acid enema. See if you can get your ammonia levels checked, your TMAO levels checked, and if you can get your microbiome to be recovered, you may find that you can start eating other foods again.

Okay, don’t drink chlorinated water. Chlorine is one of the many disinfectants that kills gram positive more than gram negative. If you can go for a walk every day, this isn’t a diet, but it helps move your transit time. Cause remember the slower your transit time, the more alkaline your stool. Alcohol, if you drink it, it also makes stool go alkaline. So there’s the general health things.

Now, if recovering a healthy microbiome were the only thing that short chain fatty acid enemas could do, that alone would be a miracle. But they actually do so much more. Good short chain fatty acids double the speed at which the body heals by increasing gene transcription. And I’ll explain how that works. Your DNA is all spooled up and it contains all the information that the body needs to make proteins and fix things and grow. In order to repair or grow, aspects of the DNA need to be accessed. And that’s called gene transcription. And then now you have the instructions on what to do.

However, without enough short chain fatty acids, people end up with an imbalance at their DNA level and they don’t get as much gene transcription going on. So they end up actually having less access to their DNA. That’s why when people take short chain fatty acids, you see a more than twofold increase in the rate at which brain injuries heal. It’s gene transcription. So short chain fatty acids double the speed, if you’re low on them, will double the speed at which your body can heal.

Short chain fatty acids stimulate the vagus nerve, which helps us stay happy and relaxed and gives us the rest and digest versus the fight or flight. They are ketogenic, so they help normalize glucose levels and body fat levels. So, colon pH has been rising, like I said, since we’ve been keeping records in the 1920s, and also goes up as we get older. So while we may start with a 10 to 1 ratio of gram-positive to gram-negative, by the time we’re, as we get older, it will invert and people will often have more gram-negative than gram-positive. So our modern world and our age both push our colon alkaline and that sets the stage for all these troubles we’ve been talking about. And now you can check it.

Very simply, you don’t need a $500 stool test, although they’re great. Just a little pH paper. And if you find that your pH is above 6.6, you might kind of consider our Phylamet short chain fatty acid enema product.

MARTIN: You make it sound so nice and so easy and so simple. And actually, surprisingly, it is.

SPENCER: But it took a long time to find the simple answer, Martin. It took days and days and days, and I might just as easily have missed it. If it hadn’t been for that one sentence, I mean, you’re reading through medical journals day after day after day, scanning through them. You can easily miss a sentence and all of that.

MARTIN: Yeah. I’m just visualizing how all of our clients are going to be asking for a pH paper and be running around measuring their poop.

SPENCER: It’s a really important thing to know.

MARTIN: Yeah, it is. All right. On that, yes, we could go now into the depths of it. Like as you were describing it, I’m thinking, toward the older age of the person, as the gram-negative bacteria ratio goes up, you start losing your marbles. Your thinking is cloudier, your brain recovery is slower, your injury recovery is slower and so on. I mean, all of that seems to tie back to this one thing.

SPENCER: So there’s a saying that you’re only as young as your microbiome, right? When they give in, so in the fecal transplant community, when they were studying fecal transplants, if they gave a fecal transplant of a young rat to an aged rat, the aged rat got younger. And when they gave the fecal matter of a brave rat to a timid rat, the timid rat got braver. So not only as we get older and the pH goes up and the microbiome goes out. It doesn’t just affect you physically and mentally, it also affects you emotionally. It affects your neurotransmitters. It’s a huge topic.

MARTIN: All right. I think this talk has been long enough, so let’s not make it endless, but I’m really encouraged by what you’re putting out there. This is awesome. Congratulations. And let’s hear it from the crowd out there by the thousands. I’ve done my short fatty acid enema and I have my health back.

SPENCER: Thanks for the opportunity for letting me speak to your audience, Martin. I hope it helps them.

MARTIN: Yeah, I’m looking forward to that. Spencer Feldman at Remedy Link and Martin Pytela at Life Enthusiast, life-enthusiast.com. By phone at 866-543-3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 476: Chinese Tonic Herbs & Specialty Teas​

We have the pleasure of welcoming back Rehmannia Dean Thomas on the show today. Rehmannia is the owner and genius behind Super Tonic Herbs, formely known as ‘RDT Herbs’. Rehmannia has dedicated his life to educating the world on this timeless ancient wisdom of Taoist tonic herbal tradition. Recently, he ventured into the realm of Ayurvedic medicine, introducing three remarkable new products. First, there’s Spiritcino—a harmonious fusion of adaptogens and mushrooms designed to provide a morning energy lift without the jitters. Next, we have a meticulously crafted Ayurvedic chai tea blend, “TruChai”- promising an authentic taste experience. And, of course, there’s Shilajit—a potent substance teeming with minerals and antioxidants, working synergistically to fortify the body against diseases and enhance overall health.

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MARTIN: Hi everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast. And with me today, Rehmannia Dean Thomas. REHMANNIA: Hi, hey Martin.

MARTIN: Hey, RDT Herbs. My favorite traditional Chinese tonic herbalist. That’s a whole lot of words, right?REHMANNIA: Yeah. It fits the purpose.

MARTIN: I want to say, we don’t mention it enough. Like, those words that I just said actually pack a whole lot of impact that should be noted. One is herbs. Herbs are concentrators and they represent to us the terroir, the terrain they grow up in. So I would like you to speak on that for a bit. And then the second part is the tonic, which is which do you pick and how do you mix it, right?

REHMANNIA: Yeah.

MARTIN: So let’s cover some of that so people get it in their heads as they’re listening to it, why this actually matters.REHMANNIA: Thanks, Martin. It’s a pretty loaded question though.

MARTIN: Buddy, I know.REHMANNIA: Well, why do we call it an herb and why do we call food, food? Why do we classify them differently, right? Well, because food is very easily digested and assimilated in our digestive system. And what we’re looking for in food is your enzymes and various minerals and vitamins. A tomato grows over a couple of months. And in that time, it has gathered a certain amount of what we call chi out of the atmosphere and out of the sun. And it is a concentrated unit, a storage unit of sunlight of that chi. Then when we eat that, our digestive systems are designed. We have about a 24-hour turnaround before we excrete the food that we’ve eaten. So we have a short time span to get those nutrients out. And so the most efficient foods for us to eat are soft, succulent vegetables and fruits. And because those elements are broken down very easily with our digestive enzymes and the nutrients are drawn into the blood, usually in the splenic arteries, the nutrients are drawn into the blood and we call that hemoglobin. And then it’s burned is what we call ATP. So that’s producing our daily energy is what we eat. How much sunlight is in what you’re eating? That’s an important equation, right?

Well, why do we classify herbs as a different, with a different name? The reason is because an herb hasn’t been growing for only two months, it’s been growing sometimes for years and years. And in that process, this plant had to develop certain kinds of resilience to survive in nature. Whereas the tomato plant’s gonna die back in the fall, our little herb is gonna keep growing. What happens is genetics come in that create proteins in its stem called lignin, which is like bark. And then now whatever nutrients this plant contains are locked inside this bark. And because this plant has to keep living over seasons, now it’s gonna have to endure cold, hot, rain, snows, all that. The plant develops more complex, well it already has developed more complex genetics in order to evolve, in order to survive and adapt to all of those changing elements.

But it also has to develop different kinds of complex internal phytochemistry in order to protect itself from invasive organisms. So it protects some antibiotic type properties. It protects properties to help it flux like nervine properties. And so it develops what we consider to be natural, we could call them medicinal properties, but they’re locked in now and they’re very complex. Whereas the polysaccharide in a tomato is pretty simple, the polysaccharide in an herb may have 10 syllables in it, because it’s so complex. But we have to unlock it now. And some time a long time ago… we really can thank the ancient peoples around the world for finding out that if they took that piece of wood and they boiled it, that they could unlock the tea we call it, out. And that tea still contains some of those properties.

Now on that equation, I asked people, well, aren’t we killing things when we cook it? Because we have a lot of raw foodists that I’ve worked with over the years. And the answer is, we’re looking for our living enzymes in that tomato, but when we’re going to get our herbs and boil out or steep out, or decoct out the primary constituents with alcohol or apple cider vinegar, whatever it is we do, those constituents are found to survive. And that’s because they have what we call extremophilic properties. That is, they can survive that boiling. And that’s why they become so important in our health. They are adaptable to those extremes. So those nutrients that survive those extremes can be traced back to the early life that came on to Earth, stuff that came in here on meteorites and frozen in ice and dust that blew through the atmosphere for billions of years before it got here. All those are extremophilic organisms or life forms. And metabolites and when they mix all of this has happened. And the plants today still hold some of that. Now we humans don’t necessarily have to adapt to the extremes anymore because we’ve built these artificial environments, but we’re having to adapt to other kinds of extremes now, like stress, which we weren’t really designed to constantly react to. And they’ve found components in this plant, like particularly what we call the adaptogenic herbs, it helped that plant adapt to the stresses of its environment.

MARTIN: So, Rehmannia as you’re talking, I’m reminded of three important things. One is the environment in which this thing grows. And you mentioned it. It’s the summer, winter. So the heat and the dry and the wet and the cold and all of these seasons are actually pressing on the plant. And it’s an attempt to survive. It has to develop resilience. And this resilience is stored in those cells. And so when we extract it out, we’re actually borrowing or taking away from the plant the resilience that it collected. So it’s not just a chlorophyll or not just a unit of sugar that I’m picking up. That’s calories, that’s easy. The resilience.REHMANNIA: Yeah.

MARTIN: That’s hard. That’s what’s dealing with energies of survival as opposed to energy making it day to day.REHMANNIA: When we unlock those properties, we have to unlock them out of the plant. That’s why an herb has to usually be decocted or prepared in some way or another.

MARTIN: And so, you mentioned that we can boil it. That’s the most common way in water. And we need heat because we really need to work it and of course, when we’re dealing with those woody things like the stems and the roots and all that woody part of the plant, it really does not want to let go of what it collected. So we need to torture it to get it out.REHMANNIA: Yeah. As part of its extremophilic nature.

MARTIN: Yeah, exactly. You mentioned the raw foodist dilemma. Raw food is great and it comes with enzymes, which is where digesting of things is happening. But in the case of tonics, digestion is not really involved. We’re going for absorption of availability of nutrients, right? REHMANNIA: Exactly, exactly. It’s very important to help that stuff just get right into the bloodstream through the pre-processing of it so that our bodies don’t have to expend energy trying to digest a piece of bark.

MARTIN: Right. So this is where herbal teas, but especially tonic teas, all of a sudden take on a new life, a new meaning. It’s just that, we’re not doing it just for the pleasure of it. We’re actually doing it for the value of it.REHMANNIA: Exactly. We’re not doing something to try and create some kind of proprietary process in order to profit off something like that. It’s a requirement to unlock these nutrients and make them bioavailable to the body. And it’s an excellent science that’s been going on for thousands and thousands of years around the world.

MARTIN: And so what’s interesting about the sources that you use, the plants that you use in yours, is that they have grown in really harsh climates, right? REHMANNIA: Well, yeah, particularly the herbs we call adaptogens. And everyone’s been hearing that term. I’d like to take a moment with you during this talk, a few moments here and there to kind of clarify exactly what that is. But yes, an adaptogenic herb is one that had to live in a very harsh place and it had to adapt to its environment. And then when we look at it, we find multiple sets of RNA and DNA, and we find tons and tons of protective and adaptive biochemistry there that doesn’t exist in the little tomato that only lived for two months.

MARTIN: Right on. Yeah, well, if you can take the word apart, Gen. as in genesis or creation, adaptability, is it creates adaptation in us. That’s what the adapter gen is. That’s why we call it that. But the reason it can give it to us is because it had to create it for itself.REHMANNIA: Right. And it’s quite fascinating that this new field of nutraceutical science is emerging over adaptogens. And now everyone’s searching for adaptogenic plants but again, like we said, they can find them and they go to hostile places to find these plants, particularly Rhodiola rosea was the first one that was found which grows way up in Siberia. And the people there, the reason it was discovered was because the Russian government went to a doctor named Lazarov in 1947 and said, hey, can you figure out how these people survive in Siberia because our soldiers are freezing on the battlefield up there, but the people living there seem to do fine. So he went up there and found that they said they were taking the golden eleuthero and he took it back to Moscow. And by then they could look at phenotypes and they saw all this genetics and adaptive. But the cool thing is now, then he coined that term adaptogen.

But the neat thing is in our modern world, we need these plants more than ever because of stress. The human body was not actually designed to endure constant stress and this is wearing us down and making people age. Adaptogenic herbs have almost become this godsend that this new classification of herbs was discovered and brought to us at this time because we need it more than ever because we’re multitasking, we’ve got so much on our plate. And so the herbs like the adaptogens become very important in our lives and many of the types that I work with are said to have adaptogenic properties.

MARTIN: Yeah, if you think about it, the stress that the plant has to endure makes it stronger. And then we borrow it from them, right? Or acquire it. And there are two ways to get stress. One, it’s always climatic, as in from climate. And you can do it by taking it up latitude toward the polar circle, or you can take it up elevation toward the sun. So, Maca from Peru is famous for its ability to feed us in a way that metabolic systems really benefit and or other minerals collected in high altitudes, right? Stuff like that.REHMANNIA: It’s a wonderful thing. Every time you learn one thing, you feel like, Oh my God, it opens up and oh my, I realized how little I know. But then each little thing is like a revelation.

MARTIN: Right on. So I would like to give you a chance to introduce the new products that we have not even talked about on our shows before, which is great. And of course, you being the, I don’t know, do you call yourself a tea master? REHMANNIA: Well, that was the title that my teacher Ron Teagarden gave to me when he first met me and I operated, I acted as his tea master for eight years. And then he gave me a title, a superior herbalist. But I still like to think of myself as a tea master.

MARTIN: And so I see this cool product that you put out recently that you call TruChai.

REHMANNIA: Yes.

MARTIN: So talk about that.REHMANNIA: Okay. Well, at this point in my life, I’ve been working with Chinese tonic herbs, very, very, very satisfied with my life with them for 24 years now, and still feel like I’ll always have the greatest respect and learning of the way that these herbs were found and classified and used throughout history. But I did decide recently to spread out a little bit and start looking at India, looking at Ayurveda. And I had a friend who is an Ayurveda master. And he once said to me, he goes, well, you know that chai is not the real chai. I said, what’s that? He says, well, what is called masala chai? It’s actually a corrupted chai that was when the British wanted their black tea. When the British were colonizing India, they wanted their black tea and they figured out the mixing with chai was tasty. And they come up with this clever term, masala chai, which has the black tea that the British introduced into it, but that’s not the original chai.

So I said to my friend, well, what’s the original one? And he sent me the recipe, which has saffron and cardamom and all kinds of beautiful ginger, cinnamon. And it’s really, if you looked at this recipe just on its own you’d think it would taste really bitter and intense. But I mixed it according to this traditional Ayurvedic recipe that he sent me. And when I tasted it, man, I mean, I just went, and when people drink it today, that one girl young lady yesterday drank some and she said: “ I feel like it just kissed my entire body.”

MARTIN: I have a friend who’s a master with plants. She’s an intuitive, she talks to the Earth. She talks to the little creatures and spirits and all of that, you know. She gets to ask them, tell me where such and such is and they will tell her and she goes there. Like, I mean, she’s really connected. Anyway, she was living in Nepal in Kathmandu. And she brought back from it this keto drink, which she calls Kiss of Kathmandu.REHMANNIA: Wow.

MARTIN: And the word kiss just brought that into my memory where all of a sudden you are connected to the culture and to the experience just like that. Right? Okay, so there’s your wonderful blend, right? So to unpack it. Cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg. Well, that sounds like Christmas baking.REHMANNIA: I know. It’s the funny thing about it is it doesn’t look like anything particularly unique, but it’s something about the brilliance of the combination, the brilliance of the traditional combination that was probably developed over many, many, many years, centuries. And there’s something about the ratios of everything in there and how they’re working together that creates this synergistic effect. It does, like you said, I’m reminded of the young lady you just talked about, where I felt the beautiful love in the spirit of India when I took my first sip of this. It was just like, it was in the entire civilization, like an imprint.

MARTIN: Okay, so how do we use this? So it’s in a bag as a powder, right?REHMANNIA: Well, what I did in keeping with my usual tradition was I was able to procure them as powdered extracts, all of the ingredients so it is still a powdered extract like my other products, which means that it dilutes 100% in the solution immediately. There’s no sediment, you don’t have to filter it out. And because of that, it’s a relatively small bag. I think it’s a 160 gram bag of the powder because it’s an extract. So you just use about a level or slightly rounded teaspoon of it in a cup of tea. And I love to add, I really like the creamy oat milk and a little bit of agave and it’s just a beautiful, beautiful drink. But the nice thing about it is that you don’t have to go through a kind of filtering process using a steep bag or a basket or anything like that. It doesn’t come in a little bag that you got to throw away, you know?

MARTIN: So this is already pre-made, dry, ready to go. And a creamer and a sweetener, right?REHMANNIA: Yeah. The powdered extract process is done by the same people to my tonic herbal formulations. And I know their process, it uses the exact amount of heat and the exact amount of time that is specific for that particular ingredient to get everything out of it without killing it. And then it is flash dried in a spinning vat into dust. So it’s all a very, very careful process to make sure that the properties are still there.

MARTIN: Yeah, that’s important. Yeah, so great. I have not had a chance to try this. So, I can’t have an opinion yet, but I’m definitely looking forward to ordering it now.REHMANNIA: Yes, I’m very proud of it.

MARTIN: Okay, so what about this? The other one that I did try, I have had a full bag of it, you call it Spiritcino, which is, it’s a play on the word of cappuccino, isn’t it?REHMANNIA: Yeah. And what it is, it’s a calming formula. It has reishi mushroom and lion’s mane, which lion’s mane is of course known to support mental acuity in the brain, health of the brain. And then reishi is known to be kind of open heart chakra, it’s known as a benevolence mushroom. And I added other herbs to make it kind of a peaceful heart and peaceful mind, and then to create a kind of a coffee light drink. Although it tastes more mellow than coffee, but it’s the same idea. And I actually created the concept of mushroom coffee. That was my idea originally back in 2004 in Los Angeles, when I was working at Erewhon grocery and I was running an elixir bar there for my teacher, Ron Teagarden. And I started breaking open capsules and,

MARTIN: So when the Ganoderma coffee hit the network marketing circuits back 20 years ago, that was actually walking on your discoveries?REHMANNIA: No, the Ganoderma, the Ganoderma coffee stuff came out of China and out of Asia, primarily out of Indonesia. But this mushroom coffee that’s recently come up with where they’re putting reishi and lions mane and other stuff into like making a coffee substitute. That Western art version of it was influenced by my work when I was at Erewhon grocery and I created the first reishi cappuccino there in 2004. So I was calling it reishi cappuccino, but somewhere along the line, somebody cleverly decided to call it mushroom coffee and it kind of clicked. That was recent.

MARTIN: Yeah.

REHMANNIA: But no, the concept of the Ganoderma coffee goes way back, but that has coffee in it too.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah, that’s what I was thinking of. I mean, I recently picked up a bag of mushroom coffee, which was a coffee drink with mushroom added, which I guess people who are into drinking coffee don’t mind it. I personally don’t like coffee. It makes me too jittery.

REHMANNIA: Yeah. Well, that’s kind of why these are getting so popular, particularly the ones that don’t have coffee in them. I know the one you’re talking about is a mixture of coffee and reishi and lion’s mane and some other herbs. That was kind of falling off a little bit. Everybody’s going for the ones that are, that harken more to my innovation, which was just using the mushrooms and tonic herbs and making a lot of like drinks out of them.

MARTIN: Yeah, you know what’s interesting is, I’m looking that you have dandelion root powder in there. I’m remembering my grandfather drinking a coffee substitute that had dandelion root and chicory root in it, roasted, and it didn’t taste anything like coffee, but it was his morning drink. He would take this plant root, it was, I think it was roasted, it had roasted flavor to it, and so he would pour hot water on it, and I mean he put milk in it too. To make it whatever he wanted it to taste like. But it definitely was his morning ritual to have this roasted root coffee, substitute, not coffee.

REHMANNIA: Yes, right. That was called Dandy Blend. It’s been out for many, many years. Not a whole lot of people knew about it, but you could even get that in regular grocery stores for quite a while. It was dandelion, chicory, maybe one or two other ingredients. And so when I was creating mine, I wanted to have something that did replicate the effect of coffee, like the little bit of that little edge you get with coffee. And so I came up with the dandelion root as that component of it. Otherwise, I might not have bothered to put it in, but I wanted to get that robust element, you know?

MARTIN: Yeah.

REHMANNIA: And then I included rhodiola, the adaptogen. So basically what to do with Spiritcino is to do in a good way what many people attempt to do with a cup of coffee is to get their energy up for their day. But when you take the adaptogenic herbs, in particular, rhodiola, which I think is what we call the emperor herb in that formula. That herb is known to get the adrenals going, but yet replenish them at the same time and fortify your circadian rhythms for the day so that you’re ready to wind down at the end of the day and actually rest. So the next day you’re back up and you’re running again. Then I have the mushroom, the reishi mushroom to have a peaceful sort of a day. And I put it in the lion’s mane to bring it to the brain. So we’ve got all our focus that we need. And then I add Ho sho wu which is a nice anti-aging longevity tonic for the kidneys. And those are the primary. And maca.

MARTIN: Yeah, there’s maca. There is maca, yeah. And there’s monk fruit to make it taste nicer. And there’s a bit of cacao to make it. I love the notes now because it’s, my most favorite drink is actually a mochaccino where it’s hot chocolate, hot coffee and cream.

REHMANNIA: That’s right. That’s what I was trying to get here. Yeah. You know, something close to that.

MARTIN: You did a great job. I have had it a good number of times. I’ve put it into my smoothies. I’ve had it on my own. I mean, on its own.

REHMANNIA: Yeah.

MARTIN: It’s a lovely, lovely creation. Really is.

REHMANNIA: Yes, indeed. Yeah, I’m really proud of it. It is going to help a person accomplish what they want out of a cup of coffee, yet it is all good replenishing the adrenals providing your daily focus helping you have a peaceful day. A good day of focus getting a lot done and come the evening able to lie down and go to sleep.

MARTIN: Right.

REHMANNIA: Rest. You’re awake again.

MARTIN: Do it again.

REHMANNIA: Yeah.

MARTIN: All right, so. That describes it lovely, in a good way. How about this? You mentioned in passing the word Shilajit. We were talking about things that are taken from the extremes of nature. Shilajit is one of those things. Of course, there are two topics when it comes to Shilajit in my mind. One is the difficulty of getting the good stuff.

And the other is, of course, just describing what it really is. Because I have been selling humic acid and fulvic acid, which is readily available from the lower altitude and less harsh environments. And they have their own benefits, pretty valuable. So anyway, however you feel like jumping into it, do you want to talk first about what it is, or do you want to talk about how hard it is to get?

REHMANNIA: Again, I’m glad we saved you for the latter part of this. There’s a lot in it. There’s a lot to talk about there. Shilajit appears to be the humic remains of an entire ancient ecosystem. Depending on where it’s collected from, there was an ecosystem there prior to, possibly. Some people debate this, but my feeling is that prior to the rising of the Himalayan mountains and the Altai mountains where it’s prime, shilajit’s just primarily collected in those two mountain chains, which neighbor each other. Prior to those mountains rising up, there was a complete rainforest there, like a very primitive ancient with water systems and peat bogs and humic acids already in those peat bogs and fulvic acids and stuff. And then when those continents collided and forced those mountains up, some of these forests were rolled in and like entombed inside the rock. And humic acids, which are the basic constituents of soil, they are eternal, they don’t deteriorate, they don’t die. They can stay in an eternal state of preservation as long as they are not metabolized.

So if they don’t touch water or, if they’re kept away from the elements that cause them to metabolize, cause metabolic activity to occur, they will stay intact. And so this stuff was just locked in the rocks for billions of years. An Indian doctor named Ghoshal did a lot of very interesting work on it where he was saying that it might be the tectonic activity of the seashells that are inside the rock from the ancient sea beds when the rocks were formed.

And that scraping together of the old of the ancient seashells, there’s a nutrient released, it’s a metabolite called di-benzo-alpha-pyrone, which is found in the ancient seashells of pre-Cambrian animals. And it’s the only traceable metabolite to us and that he thinks of so anyway. I’m getting off on a tangent.

MARTIN: So, I mean, two things to be said there. One is pressure. Right. So when the rocks pile on. It’s compressing things. So you’re just squeezing. So I don’t know, maybe it was 10 meter or 30 feet tall or thick layer. And all of a sudden you put rocks on it and it’s just the pressure will compress it. Right? And then the second phase is that it actually gets flipped and pushed up as those layers of rocks collide. Right. So not only is it pressed it’s also up high in terrible elevations.

REHMANNIA: Well, that’s why I think it could be from an ancient forest because why does it wind up above 10,000 feet or 8,000 feet from like eight to 10,000 feet is where it’s found. Why would it be way up there? It would be up there because that’s the first initial tectonic pushing up of the forest. So it winds up up high. It’s above the sedimentary rock formations. So that’s why it’s there.

I’m hypothesizing a little bit about this. I did write a book on Shilajit that’s not in print right now. I’ll get it back out where I looked at all this. But despite that, the more important part of the discussion is that Shilajit appears to be an agglomeration of that entire ecosystem, including all of its own detritus and its own humic remains, fallen leaves piled up for millions of years. And it is a combination of that. So every single element in nature is found in shilajit. Every single element in the entire table, all the 125 elements.

MARTIN: And let’s just say why that is. So think about the word humate or humus. It’s the compost, right? The difference between beach sand and fertile soil is the black stuff. You take sand, you put the black stuff in, you now have a garden.

REHMANNIA: Yes, right.

MARTIN: The black stuff is humus.

REHMANNIA: It’s the humic.

MARTIN: And the humic acid got its name from the humus. Yes. And then that stuff, that is the black stuff, we’re saying that’s what got compressed and released, and that’s what we’re after. And the reason it has all those 125 elements is because the plants are concentrators. Plants that caused this black goo to become what it is had to have extracted into their own bodies all that which was in their environment, right? Plants are concentrators. They extract from the soil nutrients. And so then they get composed, or not composed, decomposed by bacteria through composting.

REHMANNIA: Yes. The composting takes place and then the pressure takes place on top of that, right? Yeah, well, humic acids are the very smallest molecules in nature. So they form the very, very smallest minuscule root of soil. They’re so small that other plants can take them up as nutrition. So they become the nutrients for the rest of the plants in the ecosystem. And so once it’s down the humic acid level, it becomes the plant food for everything else. Prior to that, it’s larger molecules. Carbon-based and mineral-based stuff. But it’s the humic acids that become so easily bioavailable for us because they are the food for other organisms. Again, like we were saying, we don’t need to masticate and salivate and use a bunch of enzymes to break this stuff down. It’s just going to be going right into the bloodstream and directly feeding us all of these elements. We’re missing so many of the vital elements in our life today in our food with mechanized farming and frankly we shouldn’t be growing one plant in a giant field it should be a field full of a whole bunch of different plants growing together, right?

MARTIN: Yeah and you mentioned the tomato but let’s add to it corn, soy, wheat, potato, those are the staples and they all are four month or six month plants.

REHMANNIA: Yes, right. They just don’t have the time to draw up any near the depth of what you find in something like the humic acid components in soil and all that. Shilajit is a very rare thing, a phenomenon in nature. And there’s something that I’d like to say now to your viewers about this: shilajit should be treated with a lot of law and reverence and we should feel very fortunate if we have this in our lives. And let me say that you don’t need much of it. So there isn’t a whole lot out there in the world and suddenly Shilajit is so popular that people are just like bogarting this stuff thinking they’re going to get all this benefit out of it.

MARTIN: Immortality on a teaspoon.

REHMANNIA: Taking a whole teaspoon of it. The body can’t even assimilate all that. Like a little bitty pinky, like the size of your pinky nail is about all you need a day of this stuff. And then we allow the goodness to more people to get it. I kind of shudder to think of us Westerners getting a hold of something like Shilajit and just usurping it all out of like vanity because we can afford it.

MARTIN: You know what this reminds me of? The story of olive oil. We know how many olive trees there are. We know how much olive oil could be grown. And there is about two and a half times as much olive oil sold on the planet as could physically be grown.

REHMANNIA: Really?

MARTIN: Yep.

REHMANNIA: So where is the other coming from?

MARTIN: Well it’s adulterated, right? Like it’s mixed in with other things, right? Like you push in the other plant oil, safflower, God knows what they mix it with. Likewise with the Shilajit. You need to understand your source. Can you trust it? Is it the real thing or is it a wee bit of Shilajit stretched out with something? I don’t know. I mean, if I were stretching it, I would be stretching it with humic and fulvic, but God knows what somebody else may choose to stretch it with, right?

REHMANNIA: Well, yeah, I agree with you. I think when you were talking earlier about like humic and fulvic acids from stuff like dried peat bogs, where it’s powdered, something like that is great to mix with your Shilajit to buffer it out, you know? Those are still very valuable full spectrum nutrients. And that would be an ideal product in a sense. But yes, on your earlier part of that statement, Shilajit is probably being corrupted now because of the demand for it in the market and the lack of availability and the scarcity of it is going to lead people to cut it. I know I recently had to pull some Shilajit that I had because I just couldn’t trust it.

I started looking into the sourcing and just didn’t feel good about it and had to pull it out and go back to another trusted source that I have. And they mixed the Shilajit with Triphala. So now I have a Triphala blend of Shilajit, but this now goes back to what we’re saying because the traditional Ayurvedics knew that Shilajit was almost too potent for us to ingest in raw. So they traditionally mixed it with a blend of three herbs called Triphala. And that was the traditional Ayurvedic method of taking Shilajit. And so I have adopted that process in order to follow tradition on one hand and also to spread the love and not be totally usurping this and to help make sure I’m not selling a corrupted product.

MARTIN: Right on. So which three plants make Triphala?

REHMANNIA: It’s called Amala and Himala. There’s three fruits, three dried fruits that form, I don’t have the names in front of me, but it’s a blend. And the Ayurvedics had developed it over many, many years. Yeah, if you can find that, that’d be great. Amla and Himala and then what is called Trimetta or something like that. Okay, well, okay, I’ll just say it here.

MARTIN: Ok, I will just say it here: Amala, which is Emblica officinalis, Bibitaki, which is Terminalia bellirica, and Haritaki, which is Terminalia chevula. So they’re two from the Terminalia genus. And yeah, that’s it.

REHMANNIA: So the traditional, and I am a traditionalist. In my work in tonic herbalism, all my formulas are based on, I’ve modernized and been very careful to pay attention to tradition and all of the thousands of years that very wise people put stuff together for a reason. And in our modern world, I’m kind of feeling like, oh my God, I just need to try and help people understand how to adhere to the traditional wisdom in this fast paced world that we have.

But in India, they did. They always pretty much mixed it with Triphala for three reasons, one is to stretch out the availability of the Shilajit, and the other is to buffer its effects. And the other is that it turned out to be a very beneficial combination. So I like the Triphala Shilajit that I have. And it’s not like I’m trying to say to your viewers, hey, just do mine or something. I am not saying that. But if you go and look at all these people selling the resin, a bunch of them go: “The others are all fake and ours is the real one.” Makes you wonder like, well, which one is which? But I know my supplier I’ve been with for 20 years and I just love this traditional blend. It’s less expensive too.

MARTIN: Well, what should be said is that there are sources of it in the Himalayas, the Altai Mountains in Russia, it has a different name. I think it’s called Mumio, right?

REHMANNIA: Yes.

MARTIN: Which is very similar. And I remember getting Mumio back when I still lived in Europe, and it came in the tiniest little pellets. They were buckshot pellets.

REHMANNIA: Yeah, that’s probably the best way just to sell it. That’s the Russian word, Mumio. And they’ve been using it for many centuries too. And then it trickled over into Bulgaria and further on over Croatia, Eastern Europe.

MARTIN: And so, I understand that there’s some stuff even in the Rocky Mountains in America, right?

REHMANNIA: That’s what they say. The Native Americans called it Medicine Rock. And I have a friend who’s a purveyor of Rocky Mountain Shilajit in a little dropper bottle. And I like it. It tastes great. I have not looked at the domestic supply. I should be doing that.

MARTIN: Yeah, okay. Maybe you can do the American version of the Ayurvedic thing. And instead of using Triphala, maybe we should go with peaches, cherries, and I don’t know.

REHMANNIA: We could, we really could. What you said earlier, just mixing it with other forms of humic materials is also.

MARTIN: Yeah, that too. That too.

REHMANNIA: But then the whole thing is we would be honest saying, well, we’ve mixed it with these other humic materials. Whereas we don’t know these resins we’re seeing. I just don’t see where all of these purveyors are finding all of this resin. Having a hard time wondering where and what they’re doing here. It just made me a little bit concerned.

MARTIN: Right. So we do have it available?

REHMANNIA: Yes. So the traditional blend with the Triphala is called Shilajith with an H on the end. Shilajith. And that’s what I have. I have a Shilajith blend in the Triphala and powder. It comes in a little powder bag of the powder.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, it’s a good honest blend that will still kick up your ability to, well, it raises your mineralization, right? And it’s blended with the fruits in such a way that it’s actually absorbable and absorbed. I think the reason why it’s mixed that way is because it needs a carrier wave to arrive somehow rather than just blow through you if you take it concentrated.

REHMANNIA: You’re right. It needs a quote carrier. Yeah, that’s the term for it. Right. To help it assist its assimilation, full assimilation. I knew a guy when I was first purveying Shilajit and he said that you have to watch out because the monkeys that they saw going up to the mountains to eat Shilajit way back thousands of years ago, that’s how they discovered it. These monkeys would go up there and eat it in the spring, and then the mountain goats. And they said these animals get on the ledge and they’re eating the Shilajit and they’re defecating there too. And then when people find the Shilajit they shovel it all up including the dung and mix that all together. And I said: “Is that OK?” And he said: “Well, the thing is that the dung has been found to be extremely high in the humic acids. It’s so potent that the animal couldn’t even absorb it all. So there’s still a bunch in it.” So it made me think like, are all these people losing all this stuff and not absorbing it, it’s just going into the sewage system?

MARTIN: Good chance.

REHMANNIA: Good chance of that, yeah.

MARTIN: Alright well, these bits of wisdom are hard earned. It takes decades and a lot of trying. You’re now well into your maturity. You’re not a silly buck who just tries to break the world in three days. You are now understanding that it takes time and patience and dedication. And there is no such thing as storming the gates of heaven. You have to take your time and earn it.

REHMANNIA: Yeah when I first met my teacher Ron Teeguarden, he told me it took his teacher two years before he committed to teaching Ron about the tonic herbs. And many years later Ron asked him: “Why did it take you two years to open up about all of this?” And Master Park said: “Because the great masters who developed all of this don’t believe Westerners deserve this information. Because they will never seek to learn it at its deeper level. They’ll just run with the surface value of it all.” And I took that to heart, I really took that to heart. That was in 1998. And I said, I’m going to do what I can to help make that not happen. It’s kind of inevitable in some ways because we do want things fast and easy, but just to be there, I did my due diligence for 8 years silently with that master. And then also at Alhambra Medical College in Chinese medicine too. To pay my dues, like you said, it’s really important to be able to be a purveyor of the full picture.

MARTIN: And that’s what I really appreciate about you. You’ve done the work. And the products really are good.

REHMANNIA: Thank you. Yeah. Thanks a lot. Well, I appreciate that you’ve been so supportive of my work and my products. I really appreciate that, Martin.

MARTIN: I’ll try harder to introduce it to more people, because that’s how we will stay in business, and that’s how we get to spread the message.

REHMANNIA: OK, great. I love it. I appreciate it.

MARTIN: Thank you. This has been Rehmannia Dean Thomas, the Chinese Tonic Herb Master. Okay, you’ll find Rehmannia’s products here on Life Enthusiast under the RDT Herbs brand, and of course in herbal categories and also found in various places because they will help your liver, your emotions, your heart, your this and that, whatever. It’s the tonic. Thank you, Rehmannia. This is Martin at Life-Enthusiast.com. Thank you for being here today.

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Podcast 475: Healthy Gut

On today’s episode, we’re delighted to welcome Steven Wright, who will be joining Martin Pytela to introduce our audience to an exciting new product line: Healthy Gut. Gut health plays a crucial role in digestion, nutrient absorption, immune function, mental well-being, and overall systemic health. Dive into the world of HCL Guard+, Holozyme, and Tributyrin-X as we unveil their many benefits. Tune in and discover how these products can revolutionize your gut health journey.

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MARTIN: Well, hello, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and with me today, Steven Wright, a man who calls himself Health Engineer. And he created a system and a company that I admire a lot. Because I’ve had the opportunity to try their products, and boy, do they ever make a difference. Hello, Steven.

STEVEN: Hey, Martin, thanks for having me on.

MARTIN: Yeah. Steven, I would really like to have our audience understand just how big a deal is what happens in their gut.

STEVEN: I mean, it’s the biggest deal, I think, but I’m biased. But I do think if you, however you want to slice and dice it or… I like to think of ideas in the world as like a diamond. On a diamond, there’s all these facets or sides and as you rotate it, you see different things, you can project the light in different ways. And so, a lot of the divisiveness in the world today, even in the natural health world, is really people looking at the same diamond from a different lens or a different angle. And so, I think no matter which way you kind of break the body down at the end of the day, all of our liquids and all of our food has to go through the gut. And also if you were building a character inside of a video game and you were giving a hundred immune cells to put anywhere on the body that you wanted, 70 to 80% of those immune cells, so the majority of all the immune cells are located in and around the intestines and the abdomen. And so there’s a lot going on inside the gut that is really, I think people are not aware of just how complex of an environment it is and how much it is doing for them on a regular basis and how much is connected to areas of their body that they don’t think are connected, like their eyes or their hair or their brain or their fingernails or a joint pain or something like that. And just how deeply connected and intertwined something that’s far away from the gut is actually related to what’s going on in the gut.

MARTIN: Right. I think you came to understand this the hard way right?

STEVEN: Yeah, yeah, I have done a lot of therapy. I’ve done a lot of different integration work and stuff. And I think at the end of the day, the universe or God or whoever is in charge here really chose this path for me. I don’t know that I had a choice, because I was born with a birth defect called a hydrocele hernia where a boy’s testicles are kind of interwoven with his intestines. It’s not quite figured out down there. And I almost didn’t make it, because I was so upset. I was throwing up food all the time. Luckily modern medicine saved my life. And, you know, I’m here today, but I had many of these instances. Like I was, I had really bad acne in high school and I was given a Bactrum DS for almost four years straight.

I eliminated essentially my entire microbiome. I woke up on a gurney and then I went to the hospital and they tested me. They’re like: “He must have a parasite.” All I had was bifidobacter. They couldn’t find anything else inside of my gut. And so I’ve had these things that were just leading me to where I am today. And I didn’t get the help that I was seeking from Western medicine. I think everybody was well-intentioned there. They just didn’t have the tools and they didn’t have the curiosity to keep learning. And then when I did go to alternative and natural medicine people, again..

I feel like everybody has a gift to give someone like your coach or your therapist or your doctor. We all have a skill set and we pass that skill set on. But at some point in time, the teaching ends. There’s no more of that skill set to deliver to that individual and it’s time to seek a new skill set, to up-level your life and get over whatever you’re coming. And so that’s led me on this constant journey of seeking out different types of integrative practitioners or functional medicine practitioners. And just trying to,

And the thing that I think I have a gift for is boiling it down and trying to understand what’s the same, what’s similar, and then trying to be able to educate the world and other people about what makes sense from all these different opinions, even if they seemingly don’t like each other. Maybe they are saying 80% the same and only 20% different. And so, yeah, it’s been a long journey for me. It’s been 15 full years now in the natural health world writing, teaching, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on my own health. And we’re here today.

MARTIN: Right, yeah, I didn’t say it, but I have a similar history when I got broken by mercury toxicity that was inserted into my mouth by a dentist who probably was ignorant, but whatever, That’s his schooling, his education. He was told: “This is how you do your job.” And I accepted it as, well, that’s what a dentist will do. And then my world came apart and I had to do something similar to what you did, which was first to give up hope with the Western medicine and then with the various alternatives. And I kept searching and searching and it was multiple six figure spending on trying this and that. And finally I figured it out.

A, what the problem was, and B, how to undo it. And still to this day, of course, I’m no longer a new jar. I’m a cracked jar, right? So I have fragilities. I have spots that are way less than perfect. And so, I really need to live my life within the limitations that were given to me by genetics and the damage that was done and so on.

I mean, I live a normal life and I’m feeling way better energetically now in my seventies than I was in my thirties. But I’m living a life that has certain limitations, right?

STEVEN: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, there’s that, I don’t know how to say it, but there’s that Japanese art where they use gold to put together a vase or a bowl that’s broken.

MARTIN: They break the bowl intentionally and then they put it back together highlighting with precious metal the injury that was done to the bowl.

STEVEN: Yeah. And I think that’s very for both of us and for many of us in this field, we turn our pain into purpose. We turn our tragedy into our gifts. Our kryptonite becomes our superpowers. And I think that’s what you’ve done. And that’s what I try to do because it’s what feels best, right? Like I would like to alleviate suffering from people. It took me, if I had the products I have now, if I knew what I did now, my time to feeling, like you said, really good, would have been shortened by triple probably.

MARTIN: Yeah. And a similar story where I say it took me 10 years to accept the fact that I had to fix myself. It took me 10 years to figure out how to do it, and then two years to do it, right? So I could have been shorter by 20 years of this process. Well, you did faster, good on you. But anyway, I would like to really get you to tell some specifics so that people really understand just how much they share with you. The journey has had markers and events and whatever, right? Like, I would like you to actually describe what it feels like or is like to be on the wrong side of the divide first so that we can explain what the products that you now have can do for people who are hearing this, right?

STEVEN: Yeah, for sure. So, like you said, I believe in the same thing that we have these emotional break points, usually around embarrassment or shame or anger or something like that. And I have way too many of them. But like I said, I was a very fit school kid. I had IBS at the time and I was very smelly. I was the smelly guy. In fact, I was so smelly that my family, who also shares in the IBS family history, they nicknamed me the gas man.

And it was just a laughter thing. I was kind of embarrassed about it, but like it was kind of accepted in my close family as well as my extended family. And then when I went off to college, I joined a fraternity. And suddenly I was with 50 other guys in the same household and it became very clear that I had different bathroom habits than everybody else. I had to wake up earlier to go to the bathroom and sit there for a while. I would have diarrhea and I’d have to run to the bathroom. I’d have to run out of meetings and things. Things that I’d just been doing for years, suddenly there was a reflection, hey dude, you’re not the same as everyone else.

MARTIN: Yeah, your normal was revealed to be not that normal.

STEVEN: Exactly, exactly. What was common to me was not normal. And so I didn’t deal with that in college because well, what college kid does, usually, instead I made my problem worse by doing a lot of cheap beer and a lot of cheap pizza and way too much stress.

And so by the time I graduated college, I was around 245 pounds. My face was almost like, you can see my college graduation photos, some of them are online. But my face is so inflamed and full of fat that I’m almost round. So that’s memorialized forever to remind me. But afterwards, I thought I could just do, I could just eat chicken and salad and I could just lose the weight, but the weight wasn’t coming off very well like it used to in high school. And then I was in a stressful environment and my IBS got worse and I started experiencing not only depression and anxiety, but also visceral hypersensitivity. I had had it before, but it was very sporadic.

And visceral hypersensitivity is a subset of IBS, about 30 to 50%, the data is not very clear about how many people have it. But what it feels like is if you imagine what it might be like if someone took a knife and just repeatedly stabbed you in the gut, just kept stabbing you because the pain is a cramping style, stabbing pain, a neurological style pain that is, it usually would put me into a fetal position. I’d be crying and I just want to get the pain out of my body. It would be debilitating.

And so this pain started coming every day. So every time I would eat, I would bloat up, my belly would get big, I would start getting the shooting pains, but I’d be at work trying to do my job. And then if you’ve had this type of experience, you know that there’s not really any options. There’s not really anything you can take. You have to fart. You’ve got to get the pressure because the pressure is what’s aggravating the nerves and the nerves are what’s causing the pain signals. And so if you’re locked in a high rise and there’s only one bathroom, not a lot you can do. And I do apologize to my coworkers, but I would literally eat from, it didn’t matter if it was a chicken salad.

I didn’t know what I was doing, but I was trying to lose weight. I was just eating like salad and chicken, very plain, or I could go out and have a burger and beer and very full of gluten, alcohol and sugar and all kinds of crap. It didn’t matter, I would feel the exact same amount of pain. And then I would be very smelly and almost got fired. I got talked to by my boss. He said: “You got to get this handled. And there was this other night where I had to get to the station, had diarrhea on the commuter bus and just all kinds of really embarrassing things.

And I used to think there, like who is gonna marry me? Who’s gonna wanna be with me? My boss and my coworkers don’t wanna be around me. Those were the intrusive thoughts I was having in those really dark nights. And so that was part of what led me out of that. When I didn’t get help, I was just like, I can’t look forward to a life of this, because at the time I was only 22 to 24. And I was like, this can’t be the only way to do life. There has to be another way.

MARTIN: Right. And you went looking for it, right? You had to actually change what you’re doing and start reading. Right?

STEVEN: Yeah, I did. I had a fraternity brother named Jordan, who… A lot of people have like one health friend. They confide all of their true health challenges and their fears. And he was, we were kind of that for each other. And he went gluten free for celiac disease, but he didn’t get better. In fact, he just kept losing weight, he kept having diarrhea. Everybody was blaming him saying that he was cross contaminating himself. And he’s a very intense dude. Very disciplined about what he’s doing. He ripped all of his countertops out. He threw away everything in the kitchen, bought everything new, and he was still having it. And he’s like, no, your recipe is not the right recipe. And so he found a different doctor who gave him a different type of diet called the specific carbohydrate diet. He started that, his diarrhea stopped within a few days.

And he was trying to tell me to do this. And I was like, yeah, but you’re telling me I have to cook everything from scratch. I can’t have anything from a restaurant. I can only eat these certain really specific food groups. And he’s like, yeah, but you won’t have all the pain and embarrassment. And I’m like: “But I don’t know how to cook. I don’t even know. I can make chicken and I can make salad and pizza. I don’t have chopping skills.” And so it was. It was a big choice for me to do that.

MARTIN: You have to arrive at the point of total desperation. You have to find your bottom.

STEVEN: Unfortunately. Or fortunately. Yeah, I did. And I committed to it. And he was right. The first seven days, probably 50% of my bloating started to go away. The pain was 50% less. And that unlocked empowerment for me. It unlocked, like empowerment that, whoa, I have given away all of my power, I’ve given away all my control, and I have way more influence over this whole situation than I thought I did. And so that coupled with my rage against the system just drove me to the depths of the internet and to just not stop.

MARTIN: You guys created quite the company, right? What was it called the first time?

STEVEN: The first company was called SCD Lifestyle. So we were trying to help people do that specific carbohydrate diet. We were trying to make it easier for folks. And then we were trying to start educating people on leaky gut and just different types of ways of healing. That was not popularized at the time. It was considered pretty wacky.

MARTIN: Yeah, I actually remember reading your emails and I’m thinking, these guys really know stuff.

STEVEN: Well, thank you. Yeah, it was fun. Iit was hard. It was humbling. It was a lot of things. I think it was,

MARTIN: You guys made a big difference in many people’s lives. I mean, you made it into thousands upon thousands of customers then, right?

STEVEN: Yeah, I think our reach was in the millions. At the height of it. We had 350,000 people on the email list and we had quite the following and it was successful. I do think we helped a lot of people’s lives. I think it’s challenging through the internet. It’s challenging to know who was impacted and who wasn’t, but I do know that we made a difference in the world.

MARTIN: Yeah, indeed. Okay, so now the solution, right? So now you have evolved and you have come up with, call it version two or three or four, I don’t know where you are now, but you have a version of your system that’s even easier to use than it was before, right?

STEVEN: Oh yeah, significantly easier, significantly faster results. Yeah, it’s been an evolution in my own learnings, in my own understanding of my body. Because two things happened. One, I became actually disillusioned with all of integrative medicine and functional medicine. I had access to everybody. Like you said, we were at the top of the world. I could call any New York Times bestselling author. I could see any doctor I wanted in the world. And I was running tens of thousands of dollars to test on myself. I was still having some reoccurring visceral hypersensitivity that I couldn’t explain. And that had me walk away because I was just disillusioned with nutrition and supplements and testing. And when I walked away, I walked into what I had not dealt with, which was my nervous system, which was my emotions, which was my spirituality. And that was what was impacting me in ways I couldn’t comprehend from my engineering, science-based nutrition perspective.

And so on that little couple year walkabout, that deep dive, I really did a lot of healing. And I really did a lot of integration because it always was amazing and also frustrating to me that you could have someone who said: “This chiropractor cracked my toe or did something to my foot or this acupuncturist did something to my foot and my gut changed or they adjusted my neck and my gut changed.” But you could also go to somebody else and they gave you a gut pill of prebiotic or a probiotic or a fiber or something, and they also changed the gut. And then that changed the foot. And so for a long time, I’m really like, how do you affect these systems from all these angles? And so that time period really helped me, I think, integrate those concepts and those ideas and helped me appreciate that there’s so much more that’s unseen and unknown and important about the body and about gut health and just aging and reversing issues.

And then my now wife was diagnosed with cancer and that really, it caused intense stress. And basically under that load, even though I had done my emotional spiritual work, my trauma work, I have done a decade of physical healing and I had all these tools when your partner’s threatened in that way and it feels like you two versus the world.

All of my stuff flared up. And so when that happened, I reached into my medicine cabinet because I love pills and I love potions and I love cool stuff. And I pulled out the stuff that I used to use and I tried to do everything I used to do and it wasn’t working. And that was really annoying to me. And so it felt like a moment where I was like, I remember these problems. I remember that there were people who didn’t get help from these products. I remember there were people that didn’t get help from these protocols.

A lot of people did get help, but not everybody got the help they wanted. This could be better. And I have to fix this for me right now because I’ve got to stay better and on point to get through this time period with my family. And so that’s when we pivoted the company and launched version four probably of the company where I decided I’m gonna solve these problems once and for all for myself, but also for other people because there has to be a way that we make better products that get faster results.

MARTIN: Whoa, that’s quite the load, right? It’s interesting how hard the lessons can be that we are having to learn, right? Like you were, you said it, version one, version two, version three, and now finally you’re really hitting the wall. How hard is it when you are told that your partner is now possibly terminal, right? Like this is not funny.

STEVEN: Yeah, no, it’s I don’t wish it on anybody, but I know it’s happening to millions of people.

MARTIN: Yeah, and it happens to a lot of us. Yeah. And of course, the crazy thing is that cancer is a metabolic disease. And of course, the mainstream will deny it and will dance around it and will do everything possible to tell you that no, no, no, no, no, it’s genetic. No, it’s metabolic, anyway.

STEVEN: Yeah, I think it’s pleiotropic. There’s no one cause, but they all have important factors.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Okay. Of course. Yes, I agree. But more than anything, the stuff that you can change that will take you out of there is you can’t do a thing about your genetics. You should do a lot about your metabolism.

STEVEN: A hundred percent. Yeah, you can do a lot about your metabolism. You can do a lot about your toxin load. You can do a lot about your gut health. You can do a lot about a lot of things. And so I agree with you there. It’s definitely not just a BRACA gene or some sort of family history or something like that. That way of thinking has gotten us nowhere in cancer.

MARTIN: Yeah.

STEVEN: Basically.

MARTIN: I agree. Okay, so she’s still with us.

STEVEN: Yeah, so Shay has no evidence of disease going on for almost four years. This will be four years this year, I think, or three years. And yeah, I think for us, I think it’s what will allow her to live another 50 years. The process of it and resetting her health. And she had a lot of beliefs. She was not an unhealthy person. She was a low carber, she was an exerciser. She was always doing a lot of things to take care of herself. She lived a low toxin life for much of her life. And so she was not your sugar eating, obese cancer style person. She was somebody who was like, I don’t understand. I’ve done what you’ve told me to do. I’ve taken care of myself. How could this be happening? And I think for her and for both of us, actually, it was a great time to revisit all beliefs. Like what is health? How do we generate it in the short term and in the long term? But what makes sense? And I think it’s been a very informative journey. I wouldn’t wish to do it again, but I do think that she’s healthier than ever and I do think we’ll be stronger than ever. Each year that goes by, I think we’re getting stronger and better.

MARTIN: All right. So let’s talk about the kind of person that is going to be the most likely to get helped by the products that we’re about to start talking about. Who is the best candidate?

STEVEN: Anybody with GI issues that they’re struggling with, so constipation, diarrhea, bloating, gas, cramps, food sensitivities. If you have overt GI problems and you’ve already tried a few things, like you’ve already been listening to the show for a while, you’ve changed your diet, maybe you figured out your metabolic type, something like that. Those people I think are going to be in tune with their body and they should notice a difference within 30 days.

MARTIN: I noticed, for example, my body breaks down in such a way that I get rashes on my face. And it will be and there’s a map, you can look it up. If it’s on your forehead, it’s the small intestine. If it’s under your eyes, it’s your kidneys. If it’s down these folds, it’s your large intestine. If it’s on the tip of your nose, it’s probably your heart. And so on, right? There’s a map.

So if you have rashes or whatever’s on your face, you have a gut problem. And if you have loss of sharpness of your mind, right? Leaky gut gives you a leaky brain. You can probably address that pretty quickly, right? Like anyone who has inflammation coming, arising from the gut will also be losing their ability to think and recall and whatever. How do you put it?

STEVEN: Yeah, well, the way that I say it for people who aren’t clinicians and things like that is you got to think that you’re, again, 70 to 80% of all of your immune systems are around your gut wall and they are sending out these messengers. And a lot of people now know what the messengers are. They’re called cytokines. And these cytokines, think of them just like text messages. Like the immune system is sending text messages.

And some of those are like angry ones, and some of them are happy ones, and some of them are just nothing. But if you’re sending angry text messages, cytokines, up towards the brain, you’re gonna have a reaction in the brain. You’re gonna have a reaction wherever these messages get sent. And most of the time there is some disruption, inflammation, anger, but it’s really, the immune system’s really a lot of just signaling. It’s a lot of signaling. And so the immune system is a signaling mechanism to the brain to other tissues.

And so the beautiful thing about our physiology and our bodies is that a lot of the same things that happen in the brain happen in the gut and vice versa. And so anything you could do to improve the brain is going to improve the gut. Anything you can do to improve the gut is going to improve the brain. And so that’s the good news, right? The good news is that these things are actually all very interrelated. And so if you can do your meditation or you can do your exercise or you can do your prayer or you can do exercises for your brain or whatever that will change your nervous system in your gut and vice versa. If you take your supplements or you eat your vegetables for your gut, it will send up different signals to your brain and that will be helpful for the brain. And so I think that’s the beautiful thing about the body is that it actually isn’t that hard to start to fix.

It seems like it when you’re in all the pain and you’re having all the problems. But there is a blueprint here that I’m sure you talk about a lot that I talk about that there’s these blueprints, these stones you were talking about to get back to whatever health you’re looking for, like whatever your issues are.

MARTIN: So we have all of your products in stock. Is there some sort of a protocol or what would you suggest that people do? Do they need to take one at a time or most of it, all of it? How do we determine what’s the best thing to do?

STEVEN: Yeah, well, I’d say like, look, if you’re, not everybody’s the same constitution. And by that, I mean that like I have a, a bit of a gambler in me, I’m a little, I’m aggressive. And so like, if you tell me to go run up the mountain, I’ll run up the mountain. I won’t think too much about it. If you tell me I should take five products, I’ll take five products. But a lot of, not everybody’s like that. My wife is a little bit more cautious and doesn’t like to change too many variables at once.

So whether you want to buy the whole protocol I’m about to say, or you want to go more cautiously through it, that’s fine. It doesn’t matter to me. But what I would encourage people to think about and to do is whether you have GI issues yourself and you’re trying to overcome them or you’re like: “Hey, I don’t want to age like my parents did. I don’t want to age like the rest of the population. I don’t want to be normal. I want to be better than normal.” Then what I would say is that your organs inside your gut are aging just like your testicles, like your ovaries, just everything else is aging in us.

And so, I think going through all the fun stuff, the exciting stuff, the peptides, all the cool stuff, actually, the fastest way to make progress is to focus on the fundamentals and focus on the organs inside the gut. And if you get those optimized, anything else you try for any condition will actually work much better because you optimize the basics first. And so what I would encourage people to do is start with the stomach. Just start with, do you have enough stomach acid? Because most of us do not, especially as we age or we’re under stress. And so I would start with doing an HCL challenge with our HCL Guard product and just give it a shot. You just, you’ll know in literally seven days or less, you’ll know if you have low stomach acid and you’ll know if the impact is worth you taking that product for another six or 12 months. And for a lot of folks, not everyone, but for 70% or so, they will be like “whoa, I had no idea. This is really cool. I have more energy. My hair, skin, and nails look better. My bowel movements are better. I have less bloating.” And it’s central, right? Everything passes through the stomach. And if you don’t have enough acid, it’s not going to work properly. And so it’s just very basic, but it works. And it has worked for a really long time. So I would start there.

MARTIN: Yeah, you’re totally telling my… singing from my songbook. Of course, it starts right in the mouth, right? Make sure you chew your food properly. Don’t just swallow it whole. And then yes, give your stomach what it needs, which is the HCl. The stomach needs to be strong enough. The stupidest thing you can do is to take a PPI, which is the proton pump inhibitor, something that blocks your acid. You don’t need less of it, you need more of it. And that’s where this HCL product comes in.

STEVEN: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, proton pump inhibitors have done a significant amount of damage to the world.

MARTIN: Endless. I’ve lost people to cancer because of them being on PPI.

STEVEN: Yeah, I mean, stomach acid. So what’s really cool is, I’ve been talking about stomach acid since I read Dr. Jonathan Wright’s book back in, I think I read it in 2009 or 2010. And so I’ve been trying to beat the drum for stomach acid for a really long time. So long that I got bored with it, and then people were like, hey, stomach acid. And I’m like, oh, you want to talk about that now? Okay, cool. What’s cool is that finally there’s research papers coming out about stomach acid. Because for much of the 2000s, there wasn’t any real human data on it. But a paper was published out of Japan two years ago in Tokyo where they looked at people who are coming in for endoscopies and they actually took a sample of their stomach acid and they tested it and then they tested how much LPS. LPS are lipopolysaccharides. They’re a very intense toxin that comes from gram-negative bacteria.

And we have gram-negative bacteria all over the place, especially in our mouth. And it doesn’t matter how healthy your microbiome is, you will always have gram-negative bacteria there. But don’t worry, your body has detoxification built into it. We’re built to handle this. It’s not like an inborn problem. You’re supposed to detoxify it with your stomach acid. And what this study showed was that if your resting stomach acid was above a four, which it should be down below three, it should be around a two, the worst patients had up to 2000 times, not percent, that would be like 20 times, but 2000 times more LPS where it’s dumping into the small intestine that was not detoxified properly.

Now think about somebody with rheumatoid arthritis or some sort of autoimmune condition. They don’t think they have a gut problem at all. They don’t identify as having a gut problem. They identify as having inflamed skin, inflamed brain, inflamed joints, tennis elbow that doesn’t go away. Their single source of inflammation could not be, it might not be gluten, it might not be dairy. It might not be the mold in their house. It literally could be the fact that they’re swallowing their microbes every day and they’re not detoxifying them properly, driving up the inflammation in their small intestine. And then as we talked about, the small intestine sending or the immune cells in the small intestine are sending text messages out, angry text messages like, go be mad elbow, go be mad.

MARTIN: Yeah. You have the gram-negative story and you are going to suffer. Yeah. You put it beautifully. It’s the defense system that’s supposed to neutralize it. And if it’s turned off, well, there’s nothing stopping it, right? That’s level one.

STEVEN: Yeah, so that’s level two.

MARTIN: I bet you you’re gonna say, well, have some digestive enzymes, right?

STEVEN: I am, I am.

MARTIN: Go for it, go for it.

STEVEN: The next step in the digestive pathways in the process is the small intestine. And people, again, just assume that it’s their diet. They assume that, well, I’m eating organic salmon and organic broccoli, and I’m doing the metabolic typing correctly and everything. But what they’re failing to check is do you have enough enzymes to break down that very expensive and very beautiful food that you’ve created? And many times in our stressed out, sympathetic dominant, over-toxined world is the answer is no. And you could really benefit from some extra digestive enzymes because we have multiple layers of enzymes.

We have pancreatic enzymes, we have brush border enzymes, and we have specialty microbiome enzymes. And everyone’s focused on the pancreas, but the ones that are the first to go, the more fragile ones, are the microbiome enzymes and the brush border enzymes. Any amount of inflammation at the small intestine level, it could be those LPS that are coming through from your mouth. It could be other sources. It is going to stop or at least turn off part of the production of those brush border enzymes.

And so now you have a mal-digestion of carbohydrates and you’re setting up the conditions to have SIBO, CIFO, all types of infections inside your gut that will make your life miserable. And it’s not like you literally did a bunch of things wrong. It was just that you didn’t have enough enzymes. And so if nature is given food, nature will grow. I mean, that’s just a principle. You’d never convince me that’s not a law of nature. Like if there’s food, bugs will grow. And so if we don’t grab our food and we don’t take our food and actually absorb it, the bugs will eat it. And so I think that’s where a lot of digestive problems come from these days is a lack of HCl, a lack of enzymes. And then of course it just gets worse from there.

MARTIN: You gave it a beautiful name, Holozyme. I think that’s really inspired.

STEVEN: Oh, thank you.

MARTIN: I don’t know, was it your pick?

STEVEN: Yeah, so there’s a Greek prefix holos, which is moving towards whole or wholeness. And so our enzyme is different from other enzymes out there in that we are totally full of a bunch of minerals and specific minerals that help the enzymes work under bad conditions or less than ideal conditions. And it basically makes sure that they get the job done under all conditions. And so my thought was that we’re basically creating a more whole enzyme product and we’re moving the body towards wholeness. I look at enzymes as a top aging supplement. I don’t plan to ever not take them because I just feel like it doesn’t matter if I eat gluten or beef or broccoli, if I don’t have the enzyme for that food, it won’t even matter.

MARTIN: Yeah, there’s a really important study done, which was showing the association between enzyme levels and aging or acting old. And it goes both ways, if your enzyme levels down, your body is old. If your enzyme levels up, your body is young, regardless of your chronological age.

STEVEN: Yeah, I mean, it is. Enzymes are all over the body. There’s lots of different enzymes that do a lot of different things. But yeah, enzymes are critical to everything that’s happening inside the body.

MARTIN: I’ve used your enzyme and it’s a wonderful thing.

STEVEN: Well, thank you. Again, remember I was in a lot of pain again a few years ago and I was like, I was using three different supplements from three different enzyme products at the same meal. It was costing me like 200 bucks a month. And I was like: “This is insane. There has to be a better science way to deal with this.”

And so that’s where Holozyme was born, working with some scientists out of Utah and a lot of testing on myself and our team and everything. It’s actually on version six now. So that’s the other thing about our company is my background from schooling is electrical engineering. And so I don’t believe in this idea that you just make a product and that’s it for life. Like I think we should update those products and make them better over time and learn what works and what doesn’t work.

MARTIN: Awesome. I believe in that too. Okay, and the third one is?

STEVEN: Yeah, butyric acid and butyrate. So,

MARTIN: Yes sir, that is the most important thing we’re talking about now, the essential fats, right? People so appreciate the importance of fats. Well, anyway, I’ll let you explain it. You put your time into that. Go ahead.

STEVEN: Yeah. Well, I do think that’s where, if you hear this conversation now in five years, if you’re talking about this, you’ll be maybe mainstream by then. Like you’ll be a hero. You’ll have been here early. Because look, we’re taking more probiotics than we ever have as a population globally, and we still have not figured out gut health. We’ve still not figured out aging or any chronic disease. So, probiotics are not the solution. They’re not the end-all, be-all solution. They’re not going to deliver on the promise.

Part of the reason why is that maybe what we’re after is not the probiotics themselves, but what the probiotics do for us. And what a huge part of what the probiotics do for us is they turn the extra parts of our food into metabolites. And of those metabolites, those are signaling molecules for our bodies, for health, for bone growth, for anti-inflammation, for all types of things. And the most important molecule that we’ve identified so far is called butyric acid. And so basically, like a probiotic, a good microbiome, or a good bug in your biome, will eat a prebiotic, or a polyphenol, or a fiber, and then it will poop out a postbiotic, or a metabolite. And in this case, we’re talking about a short-chain fatty acid called butyric acid. And so at the end of the day, all that vegetable matter, and the fruits, and whatever else you were eating, we were trying to get that down so these little bugs could eat it and then poop out something that becomes absolutely critical.

In fact, there’s new research showing butyric acid, low amounts of butyric acid are found in neurodegeneration. They’re found in asthma. They’re found in osteoporosis. They’re found all across the body. They’re found in skin issues. And so what, what that’s saying is essentially we make a certain amount of butyric acid every single day and about 90% of it is consumed in the gut for gut health and gut health reasons, but 10% is absorbed and it goes systemically and it tells the body to essentially be in harmony, be in health and produce good healthy next order systems. And so without it, not only do we start to starve the far away body parts like our brain or our lungs or our bones, but our gut starts to fall apart. And so what I have been really fascinated by is I was blown away by the testimonials from our customers around Tributyrin-X. Like I thought it was gonna be a good product, but I didn’t know that was gonna be what it is.

And I couldn’t make sense of what they were saying because it didn’t fit my worldview. And so I started diving back into the research and lo and behold, almost everywhere you look inside the gut, there’s a connection to butyric acid. So if you’d like to have a better microbiome that’s more diverse and it’s thicker, which we all should want, butyric acid does that. It helps with that. If you want less leaky gut and less tight junctions, it does that.

If you want your immune system to be less aggressive and less reactive, it does that. If you want lower oxygen in your gut, it does that. It does all these things so much so that I’m now calling it, and I took this from a paper, so I didn’t come up with it, but I’m calling it the butyric keeper of the gut. Like if there’s one thing to focus on, it’s butyric acid. If you don’t have enough of it, you will never have optimal gut functioning and therefore never have the health you want. And so you can, I would say the optimal way to do this is eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and plants and colors and things like that. That’s the way we make it. But a lot of us don’t have the enzymes or the acid or the microbiome to be able to turn that into butyric acid. So what I’ve found is that in today’s world, what we need to do is we need to go and end around. We need to go to and insert the actual product we want for a number of months as we rebuild everything so that hopefully in five, six months from now, you can come off of the actual support product and make it on your own.

MARTIN: Yeah, this is the leg up, the crutch that you need. Wow. A crutch is a classic example. You need a crutch when you can’t put weight on your ankle. And this is sort of a crutch. You are going to lift your gut in such a way that it will allow the repairs throughout the body and you can start relying on just the fruits, veggies, and butyric, it got its name from butter, right?

STEVEN: It is partially found in butter. I don’t know how the name originally came about, but yeah, although the butyric acid in butter don’t think you can just go eat butter because it’ll get broken down, it’ll never get to your gut. So that’s not a way to do it.

MARTIN: That’s correct. And so your product is tributyrate, which means that it’s three butyric acids linked together. There’s a butyric acid out there as a supplement, but somehow this tributyrate seems to be better.

STEVEN: Yeah. So, there’s different types of butyric acid, as you mentioned. Tributerin is the three butyric acids with a fat backbone, a glycerol backbone. And what that means is that it penetrates deeper into the gut. It’s gonna need a little bit longer to get broken apart. Where as sodium butyrate, cal-mag butyrate, they’re just absorbed immediately across a gradient inside the small intestine. And so we want to try to coat the gut as deep as with butyric acid, because it’s involved in so many different processes and issues. And then we have the only enteric capsule that I’m aware of on the market for this. So we have the highest purity, we have the best raw ingredient form, and then the best capsule. Because at the end of the day, again, our goal is to not have anything destroyed in the stomach. The stomach will destroy butyric acid and we want to get it as deep into the small intestine as possible, hopefully touching the large intestine, but we’ll have to do some clinical data to validate that. I can’t claim that yet.

MARTIN: All right. I got hit by a customer saying, why is there sorbitol in there?

STEVEN: Yeah. So I worked with a scientist out of Spain. This is all he does. All he does is butyric acid and tributerins and things like that. He has spent his entire career on it. He’s a chemist. If you don’t use sorbitol for enteric coatings and enteric capsules, you end up using really toxic chemicals. So sorbitol is used in a fraction of the amount that you’d get from eating a berry.

So the amount in one capsule is like a fraction of what you get from eating a raspberry or a blueberry or something like that. And it’s used in a specific way in the capsule technology that if we didn’t use sorbitol, we’d have to use some chemical that we can’t pronounce. And that would definitely be manmade and probably toxic. And so that’s why it’s in there. And I get people’s fear of sorbitol because of FODMAPS and things like that. But just know that your body is not sorbitol intolerant; it has a load of sorbitol that it cannot tolerate. So in other words, even on a low FODMAP diet, it’s not a FODMAP free diet, it’s low FODMAP, because it’s impossible to eat a diet that has no FODMAPs in it. And so you’ll be just fine with a little sorbitol in the capsule.

MARTIN: Great. All right. Do you want to talk about any of the other products that you have, or are we going to call it a day here?

STEVEN: Oh, I mean, we could do a part two.

MARTIN: I would love that.

STEVEN: OK, let’s do a part two then.

MARTIN: OK. All right, Steven, this has been a wonderful 50 minutes that I’m just so excited to be able to share with my audience. And since we didn’t get to talk about the rest of your products, I think we’re going to have to do part two.

STEVEN: I love it. Yeah, I love it. Well, thanks for having me on. And yeah, this was a lot probably for some people to digest, pun intended. And so yeah, we can do a part two and we’ll go deeper into some other cool products that are also helpful for the gut and for other parts of human health.

MARTIN: Right, indeed. That way the rest of the physiology gets involved. Just so you know, the other products, I will mention, include magnesium and Serenity. There’s something to do with managing your emotions and Holoimmune, which I can’t really wait to get into because that is a very significant product. So I’m looking forward to talking about them in our next round.

STEVEN: All right, sounds good.

MARTIN: This has been Steven Wright from Healthy Gut and Martin Pytela from Life Enthusiast. Thank you for listening. You’ll find me at life-enthusiast.com. Thank you.

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Podcast 474: Staying Healthy in a Toxic World

In this episode, Martin dives into the myriad forms of environmental toxins that pollute our planet on a global scale whilst also having a profound impact on our health. Through insightful analysis, Martin illuminates the interconnectedness of these pressing issues such as chemical sensitivities and intolerances, autism, and geo-engineering. He emphasizes that while complete avoidance of these chemicals is impossible, we can make concerted efforts to minimize our exposure. Through awareness and utilizing appropriate resources, we can safeguard our health and well-being for future generations.

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MARTIN: Martin Pytela here, Life Enthusiast, health coach. We should talk about chemical sensitivities or the environment. Last week we talked about nutritionals, specifically sweeteners. What is in your food? Well, the “what is in your food” continues with the chemicals.

Curious stuff has been going on since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, but especially kicking off after World War II. Lots and lots of chemicals have been added to the food that we eat. Some intentionally as additives and some unintentionally as contamination. The main issue here on my mind today is called environmental illness or chemical sensitivity. That happens to people, and more and more people are being affected by that.

Chemical intolerance caused by environmental exposure. Children are now becoming affected to the point where they are being registered in the national birth registry, caused by either solvents, volatile organic compounds, pesticides, things like formaldehyde, carbamate, nitric oxide, inflammation, superoxide.

The story goes like this: the food produced at industrial scale is being controlled or added to specific additives, with the intention of extending the shelf life. It’s an important thing, of course, right? Shelf life of food makes it less expensive. When your food is not spoiling on the shelf, you have less that you have to throw away.

I remember back when I was a kid, baking was fresh stuff, the white bread stuff. We used to have bread rolls and stuff like that. They were good only for one, maybe two days. After that they would be let go to dry and they were used in ground up baking as in breadcrumbs. Bread like sourdough style bread that would last maybe 4 or 5 days at most.

But it was best fresh, right? We would buy as we wanted, what we wanted, as we needed, fresh. I remember milk lasted one day. Well, maybe not even a whole day. Even things like beer, when I was growing up, it was not pasteurized and it was only good for maybe 4 or 5 days on the shelf. It needed to rotate, it needed to be made fresh, and it didn’t have a long shelf life.

What had we started adding? Things are either preventing mold or things that are preventing visual spoilage, like brown spots, black spots, and so on. So some are antifungals, others are antioxidants. Let’s call it that.

The two most famous ones, BHA, BHT, they are added at a certain level. They have been established as .02 percent of the fat content of your food can be in BHA or BHT, which is “safe for you.” Well, it probably is. I don’t know, maybe it is safer to be eating unspoiled fats rather than spoiled fats, right? Oils, especially plant oils, will rancidize. And they rancidize because they’re made not well. When you are making the oils using high-pressure high heat extraction methods, you will no doubt cause peroxidation of lipids. Rancidization of fats.

So you have two ways of fixing it. One is to add chemicals that will possibly cause downstream damage. The other is to start making the product better using methods that perhaps are not as high volume and high speed, but that will not cause the peroxidation of lipids. And we are finding out that that’s possible. For example, on our website you will find products by Andreas Wecker, Andreas seed oils that are extracted using the correct methods and that are healthy, unspoiled with a shelf life of 2 to 3 years without refrigeration. Go figure. It’s possible. But they would have to be using methods other than the high speed, high-pressure, high-friction oil extraction methods.

So that’s the food spoilage. One of the quickest ways of causing nutritional damage in your body would be by eating foods that are spoiled, like the peroxidized fats, or by eating oils that have been heated to high temperatures. So of course, things that have been fried. I guess I’ll sidebar into this: when it comes to fixing or cooking foods, the lower the cooking temperature, the less damage. So the healthiest methods would be stewing or poaching, as in heat treatment in water, steaming. Beyond that, maybe cooking with a wok with steam. The higher temperature pan fry is not nearly as healthy as steaming or stewing. And then beyond that deep fryer with high heat oils, that’s definitely no fun. And barbecue, of course, that creates cross-linked AGEs, advanced glycation end products, things that make you age are the caramelized proteins.

So when you get a piece of chicken that has just come off the barbecue, it will have brown stripes on it. And these brown stripes, they are the most flavorful. But at the same time, those are the ones where the flesh has been essentially burned, caramelized. So those are the sources of carcinogens. Interestingly, the herb that reverses that or makes it less damaging is rosemary. So if you’re roasting your chicken with rosemary or if you’re barbecuing your steak with rosemary, you’re going to see much less damage and much lower carcinogenic effect or activity.

So that’s the cooking and the temperature. But I also wanted to talk about what happens to people: chemical sensitivity. So this is in reaction to the effect of herbicides, pesticides, coloring agents. What’s interesting is of course, that we’re seeing the effect in increasing levels with each succeeding generation.

Back in the 90’s, we were writing that maybe 1% of children were in the autistic territory. Well, there was 1 in 100. Now it is one in about 30. These days there isn’t a classroom that doesn’t have 1 or 2 kids that are now on the spectrum. Of course, the spectrum is quite the range, with mild being just not exactly neurotypical and going through ADD and ADHD and aspergers all the way to the really affected where they are having problems with fitting in socially, being able to interact with people normally, having serious effects.

The biggest effect, that I’m aware of, caused herbicides and pesticides, is because they are designed to destroy living things. We did not understand, or at least the engineers ignored or didn’t understand that microbes, microbiome inside of us is very important. So for example, when they introduced glyphosate, which is a component of Roundup, it was originally patented as an antibiotic. And correctly so because it destroys microbes. The way this thing works is that when you spray this on a plant, it gets absorbed into the roots and at the root level, destroys the microbes that are designed to make nutrients available to the plant. So the plant dies because it’s unable to extract nutrients from the soil, because the microbes that would hand it to the plant are no longer alive. So far, so good, right? We’re destroying the plants we don’t want. And then we have created plants that are resistant to this, so that we could now plant the resistant plants and then spray the whole field. And only the resistant plants would survive. So far, so good. Except, the glyphosate is water soluble, which means that when you spray it on the field, it actually gets into the water, and that means it gets into the runoff, it gets into creeks and rivers and oceans. It also gets into the aquifer. So it goes into the soil.

It also evaporates. So as it rises as vapor into the air, it becomes the clouds and it can rain down anywhere. So now we have glyphosate raining on us from the sky on every field, including the organic gardens, including the cities, including the lawn, wherever you walk in town, where your dog is walking, where your children are walking. The famous lawsuit that affected Monsanto and Bayer in a big way was a lawsuit of a groundskeeper in Florida who was told that the glyphosate that he sprayed was safe. And he was spraying it all around school grounds to control plants that were unwanted, essentially maintaining lawns so that they are free of pests. Or, you know, where you have a walking path, gravel or something, where you want to eliminate ugly things like dandelions or thistles or whatnot. So instead of killing them with hot steam or vinegar, you’re now killing them with glyphosate. Anyway, so this fellow was told to spray, that it was safe. He did. He got cancer proveably so, and he was granted a very large award. And it pretty much destroyed Monsanto to the point that it had to sell itself to Bayer.

But anyway, the issue here is that, for example, this item that was originally patented as an antibiotic is indeed destroying microbes and is remaining in trace amounts on food and is in the environment, too. So when we ingest food, let’s just say wheat, because these days they actually spray glyphosate on wheat in order to cause it to dry up in the last phase of its growth. It produces beautifully consistent dryer grain, which is easier to harvest.

So from the perspective of getting more grain, better yield, it’s wonderful. However, it’s contaminated trace amounts only and it gets into us. And so even at parts per million and parts per billion concentrations, it is affecting us internally, not human cells, but the microbes that live within us. Turns out that the microbiome that lives within me, inside of me is what digests the food. To give examples, vitamin B12 is made by a specific microbe living in my gut, as is dopamine, as is serotonin, as are several other important substances, chemicals, hormones, things that we need. They are actually made by creatures living within us. So when we cause the terrain within us to be altered, we are shifting from healthy to unhealthy. So going back to, for example, the mention of autism, we now know that the autistic symptoms are made much worse when certain microbes are overgrown in the gut. So when we switch it, when we turn the balance of microbes, we actually take away the symptoms, too. This is quite significant. Anyway, the point is, as we are altering the microbiome, perhaps in favor of the microbes that are resistant to these chemicals, we are creating problems in the population and these problems are leading to chemical toxicity.

So this creates chemically sensitive people. For example, we now know that there are specific genetic pathways. I’ll read you a little quote. Due to advances in technology, it is now possible to use computational toxicology methodology to conduct virtual screening of gene environment interactions, gene and environment interactions as they relate to specific high profile diseases such as autism, and this is accomplished by using our current knowledge of gene pathways and protein structures, and combining those with high priority chemical toxicants. Using ligand receptor docking technology to identify high scoring gene variant and chemical combination. Such targeted investigations will greatly reduce the cost associated with genome association studies and also help to identify environmental insults, which offers the opportunity for prevention and treatment.

Lovely sciencey comment. Essentially, it tells you this, you should be able to know ahead of time that a specific person, a child, will be sensitive to specific chemicals. Environmental causation, for example. Just recent development, right? Robert Kennedy’s candidacy for president of the United States. He is one of the advocates for investigating and disclosing what’s going on with vaccinations. And he has been branded anti-vax. And he responds with, I’m not anti-vax, I’m pro-science. Let’s get the information, let’s study it, let’s reveal it, let’s disclose it. If this stuff is maiming or killing our children, we should know. We should hear about it. Do not hide it. Do not ignore it. The stuff that’s happening is, of course, the rising tide of this.

There’s so much more of it with each succeeding generation that at some point, it will be impossible for the pharmaceutical companies with their control of politics, money in politics, of the information, as in they own the radio, TV, newspaper and now even the internet. I cannot get this message on YouTube. I cannot get this message on Facebook because those channels are fully controlled by either the government, which then in turn is controlled by the pharmaceuticals and their message. There’s no leak, or there are only very small leaks in the alternative channels where people are bravely saying, please hear me, this is anti-science, this is now propaganda, controlling real information.

What all is going on, right? Individuals with seemingly unrelated exposures and multisystem health problems share a great deal in common. Their multi-system symptoms are often triggered by everyday low level chemical exposures. Many will report adverse reactions to food, medication, alcoholic beverages, or even coffee. In the 80’s doctor Nicholas Ashford of MIT described this phenomenon: “Toxicant induced loss of tolerance.” TILT is the name they gave this underlying dynamic. It involves a two step process whereby the initial acute or chronic toxic exposure causes loss of tolerance for everyday exposures, and these new onset intolerances perpetuate the disease process. They describe how low level exposures to common chemicals, foods, and medications may be the driving force behind the increased incidence to many hitherto unexplained medical symptoms, and how they are masking or resulting from overlapping responses to multiple incidents, is obscuring the fact that everyday exposure will perpetuate illness.

And these concepts arose from reports by physicians, researchers, patients for more than a dozen of industrialized nations. So collectively, their observations provide evidence that “Toxicant induced loss of tolerance – TILT” may be a new theory of disease.

So we have loss of tolerance resulting from an acute or chronic exposure event, which follows by repeated triggering of symptoms by everyday exposures such as gasoline vapors, engine exhaust, fragrance, cleaning agent. Exposures, which had not been a problem for the person previously. This phenomenon became increasingly common with the widespread introduction of synthetic organic chemicals, mostly following World War II, and then coupled with this, 90% of Americans spend 90% of their day inside of poorly ventilated structures, where unprecedented levels and types of synthetic volatile organic chemicals known as VOC, volatile organic compound or volatile organic chemicals are present, and this has led to the epidemic of chronic illness that we are witnessing today.

Sensitivities, right? And so this what I’m reading to you was written based on research that started well in the 1980s. What I just read was published in 2010, and yet another 15 years have gone by and we have nothing or very little to show for it. The chemical industry, the pharmaceutical industry, which is a subsection of the chemical and the food manufacturing, which is closely related to the chemical, are lobbying very effectively with the government.

They have, we could say, turned the regulatory organizations into their own tools. Going back to Robert Kennedy, he calls it a captured agency. The agency itself has been captured by the industrial interest that it’s supposed to be controlling. These days, the FDA, EPA, NIH NIEHS, many of these organizations that are supposed to be for health and for environment and maintaining our quality of life have been twisted. They have been subverted. They are now in full control of the industries that are supposed to be regulating.

This is short-sighted in many ways because of course, shortsightedly they are allowing these toxins to continue to be used. In the long run, this is going to essentially kill the patient. This is the short-sightednes of a viral infection of a parasite or of cancer. Cancer will ultimately kill the patient or a parasite will ultimately destroy the host. And that’s what we have here. These companies, these whole industries, have become parasitic. They cannot see beyond the narrow self-interest of selling more of what they make, that in the process of selling more, they are, in fact going to kill the customers that are consuming their product. So in the end, this is all going to collapse. I just don’t know if it’s going to collapse before the human race, and maybe everything else with it is destroyed or shut down.

Because now the latest, the latest salvo from the pharmaceuticals is the introduction of the mRNA. These are tiny bits of protein. They’re called plasmid. And inside of the plasmid there’s a rolled up piece of DNA. And that DNA has a specific effect on whoever’s absorbing it. And as research shows, these are now based on venoms, toxic venoms. So when these things are now freely distributed and they have become aerosolized, meaning they can be distributed on the air, sprayed or in water, they can be injected into city water supply at any point through injections. They could be added as an additive to something like dental, novocaine, procaine, that sort of thing. Or it could be added to insulin. So anybody who’s injecting insulin would be injecting these.

And once these things go into circulation, they spread. We now know that these plasmids are transferable from one person to the next through sputum. You’re spitting out a little bit of your body fluids. That’s sputum, sweat, urine, feces. So anything you touch, it’s very common for hygiene to be insufficient, urine and feces get onto stuff.

Every time you end up with some kind of food poisoning, somebody in the food production who has ended up putting the wrong kind of microbes into the food stream, usually just bad personal hygiene, unwashed hands touching food. So clearly this will happen, is happening and you can expect that you will be exposed.

Why am I getting into that? Well, this is the next level of exposure we’re going beyond chemicals into now DNA itself. Previously we had chemicals affecting the DNA. Now we have the DNA itself being affected, modified, changed and distributed as such. So we can indeed expect a rising level of these chemicals, whatever form they are, and rising levels of their effects on the population in general.

And there are some predictions that you can easily imagine that since there are more and more children becoming autistic, for example, that more and more of the societal resources will have to be devoted in care of these children. I mean, they have higher demand on education. Well, the milder forms are taxing the education system, the more affected ones, the ones that you can’t even put into a classroom, they are really causing high demand on care because after all, we are a society in which we do not abandon people who are less than perfect.

I don’t know if the day comes when this will have to change, because it’s possible that there will not be enough people available to do the actual work, to be able to carry all the people that are requiring extra care. I’m reminded of earlier societies where the resources were not so abundant, like in the days of the Roman Empire. They would abandon infants that were less than perfect. In fact, they did not name children until they were about two years old, because the rate of loss of infants was fairly high.

Anyone that was less than right just was not supported. And even still, the nutritional balances, right? Like, you may have heard me talk about how the metabolic adaptation to environment or food resource takes place, we know that up to the Middle Ages, the typical experience was that a woman would give birth to a child every 2 or 3 years, so she would end up giving birth to 12, 14 children. But it was also common that many of them did not make it to adulthood. Maybe 4 or 5 would, out of the 12 or 14, and that had to do with either the adaptation to the food resource, because a child that’s not well adapted to what they’re being fed is not strong enough to survive the infections. And they were rampant.

The biggest advance really, was when civil engineers came up with dealing with sewage. Previously, before modern days, we had open sewers, animal feces, human feces, all of that stuff just throughout the environment. When it’s in the open sewers, open ditches, it will dry up and evaporate. And so any infection that can be in that is just easily redistributed back into the air and so on. So it was super common for all kinds of illnesses to be recirculated through the communities. So people would die off or die from these infections.

And I guess we used to have population control through illness. And then the population control got away from us by allowing almost everyone to live. And now people in control are inventing ways to try and reduce the population in other ways through illness introduced artificially into the system. How glorious is that, huh?

So instapot cooking, great. Because instapot is usually just steam. So you’re stewing, braising, steaming, I would say great. The other question, what about air frying? You have eliminated fat and oil, right? But you’re still cooking in high temperature air. So the food itself is going to be exposed to a fairly high temperature. So I’m sure it’s not quite as bad as frying with heated oil. But in general, I would say it’s less healthy than cooking at a lower temperature. It’s the temperature itself that is the issue here.

So what did I get myself into here? Trying to advocate for what? What am I trying to tell you are the solutions to all of this? Well, we need to become more aware. We need to be questioning everything. We need to be shopping differently. Those of us who wake up need to be buying food that is less toxic. So one, genetically modified is in general not a good idea, even because the genetic modification probably causes these foods to introduce things into the environment that shouldn’t be there. Selective breeding is not quite the same as genetic modification.

In selective breeding, you’re choosing the tomato that’s bigger or redder or tastes better, or some reason like that. With genetic modification, you’re now injecting the tomato with cold water fish genes so that you can grow the tomato essentially by cross pollinating not by selecting the best, but instead by just smashing one thing into another. Mating a dog with a fish kind of thing. It should not be happening.

The second thing is, most foods that are sold in a box with a barcode or in a bag with a barcode have chemicals in them, some less terrible than others. Some of the preservatives are fairly innocent, others not so much. Read the list. Emulsifiers, preservatives, antifungals. When you ingest these chemicals, they will have an effect on the terrain, on the microbiome, which will slant what’s going on inside your body so you’ll be better off cooking food from scratch. What you want to do is you want to buy foods that have been grown organically without the use of herbicides and pesticides, maybe with a minimal amount of chemical fertilizer. I’m not so sure about that. Fertilizers, and especially natural fertilizers are a good thing because they do improve yield. What we don’t want to have is herbicides and pesticides, because they really affect us in ways that we don’t like. Anyway, growing food using the organic method is better than buying the food that has the GMO herbicide pesticide on it, and then cooking from scratch, or at least watching carefully what is in your food.

For example, with the superfoods we make, we have our own shop and we make these green superfood blends, and we make them from foods that have been either wild crafted as in grown in the wild without farming, or grown organically, or grown in at least a nontoxic manner. And then these foods have been preserved using methods such as freeze drying. Fermentation works really well as a preserving method, and freeze drying is quite reasonable because it retains at least 85% of the nutrients intact. The good thing about dried foods is that you have allowed the enzyme activity to remain. It just goes dormant, and when you put water and heat back on them, as in like moisture when you rehydrate and ingest these foods, the enzyme activity remains intact, and it’s almost as good as having it fresh.

The other method that works well besides fermentation is, of course, freezing. Frozen food is not exactly as good as new, but pretty darn close because it has all of the nutrients and even the enzymes just slowed down. So I’m advocating for very careful and considerate use of what we ingest. And this goes to everything, right? You start with food, water, chemicals as in cosmetics. What do you use on your body? When you ingest something, swallow it, or whether you put it on your skin only affects the speed of how fast you absorb it.

When I put it inside of me, it absorbs a lot quicker than when I put it on top of me. But whatever I paint my face with will absorb into me. I mean, this is demonstrated with patches like you can buy nicotine patch or cobalamin patch or whatever else patch. All we know is that it absorbs into your body, just slower.

Anyway. Be judicious and careful in what you get, cleaning products and then quality of the air. So air filters are probably a good idea because after all, when we live in a home, it has all manner of volatile organic chemicals that are getting in the air, flooring materials, vinyl or the laminate flooring. There’s plenty of stuff coming off of that, even carpets. I mean, you can find carpets that are either natural fiber or low toxicity, but you need to be asking those questions and you need to be willing to pay the price.

And of course, many times you don’t get to decide because you’re moving into a home that somebody else built. At least the older homes, they have mostly exhausted or evaporated all of the chemicals because the greatest emission is when this stuff is new, time it declined.

And then really question all of the medical interventions. The number of lives destroyed with the injections are just… The mainstream press, the mainstream media are suppressing the message. This problem is big, large scale, rampant and increasing, rising. It’s worse than it’s been. And yet, of course, it has become unacceptable to have a voice. It has become unacceptable to question.

Well, there’s this really cool voice. Keep coming back to it today. But this Robert Kennedy, I don’t know how much exposure he will get. He will probably not get any exposure in the mainstream media, but he has a good chance of getting his message across. It would be an interesting thing to see if he actually did end up winning the presidency. Curious to see.

Anyway, I think more and more of us have the option of living somewhere where we are not in the food desert, but instead somewhere where food is grown. I know that there’s this tendency to push us into larger and larger cities, into greater and greater concentrations. But maybe, just maybe, it’s possible for the awake ones to be resisting this and just living in a way that’s more ecological. And I guess those of us who are not in a big city independent of commuting, we can certainly do that. All right. What’s your take on global warming?

So first of all, there are two issues. One is environmental destruction perhaps, or impact on the environment. And the other one is the climate. So we know for a fact that there are multiple effects coming into this. The rotation of the Earth around the Sun, the sun, the tilting of the axis and whatever. There are these cycles that cause either warming or cooling of a specific period. So we could be having warmer summers and colder winters, or vice versa, milder summers and milder winters. And then there is this long range cycle that has to do with climate. And then there is the carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. The most interesting greenhouse gas is water vapor itself. When you have clouds, they actually trap heat on the surface. But more clouds, they reflect the sunshine. So under a cloud cover you have less heat. So there are these influences of the climate of the cloud cover of the carbon dioxide itself. We have records that show that right now the carbon dioxide level is about 400 parts per million. There were not long ago 700 parts per million, and the climate was colder. So go figure. It’s not necessarily tied directly to carbon dioxide. My great concern is preserving the environment. Not toxifying the planet. Not destroying the nature as such. Not pushing chemicals into waterways, destruction of the fabric of life. It’s really interesting. Like these last two years, we have seen more carbon dioxide come into the air from burning of forests than billions of cars would produce. All of the goodwill, whatever it is that we’re decarbonizing, our economy has been completely obliterated. The difference that we are making by switching from coal burning to something else has been like a 5% difference against 95% of what the volcanoes and what the forest burning is putting in the air.

I think what we’re seeing is the climate becoming more extreme, which means that we have more dramatic winters and more dramatic summers. Warmer air holds more water, which means that storms are likely and there’s more water in the air. Therefore, more water will come down. So when it rains, instead of being a mild, misty rain, it’s going to be now a deluge. So we’re seeing these strange events where more water will come down in one day than you would expect to see in a month or two, which will, of course, overwhelm the environment. We will have flooding events. So what’s more important? I think doing a responsible thing would be not using plastics, because plastics seem to pollute the environment terribly, or at least finding some ways to recycle them, which seems to be difficult. There’s not a whole lot of market for recyclable plastics, but still, focusing on not pushing these things into the environment is probably a good thing. Environmental destruction through pavement, backfills of swamps or wetlands, Maybe a better name for swamp is wetland. It would be wonderful to try and preserve these because they are the natural ways of recycling the organic toxins that come out. There’s the military with their stuff, the HAARP, which is of course, that’s an ionosphere radio, some sort of a thing.

I don’t understand it well enough, but the way I understand it is that it can create massive weather events. And then of course, we have the chemtrails, right? Spreading of chemicals by aircraft into the air. I mean, it is there. They’re doing it. They’re engineering the climate. I don’t know who they are, who put them in charge, who gave them the permission to do that? Is it good? Is it bad? I don’t know. If they didn’t do it. Would we get too hot? Because they’re doing it in a clandestine, unpublished manner. We don’t really know whether it’s helping or not helping and what the full effect is of that.

Anyway, it’s complicated. Economically, I think that all people or all scientists agree that global warming is happening. Well, there definitely is some climate disruption, no denying that. But the causation of it, I’m not so sure, is the carbon economy. I think we could do much better things for the environment. I think we could do much better things to spend money on, like the amount of money that we as a society are devoting to this decarbonization of the economy as if we directed it, or on more important or more effective things. It would be smarter. Bjorn Lomborg. L-o-m-b-o-r-g. Look him up. He’s quite interesting. Read his stuff.

Anyway, thank you people, this is Martin Pytela, health coach at Life Enthusiast life-enthusiast.com. Thank you for being here.

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Podcast 473: Watch Your Water

In this episode, Martin explores Dr. Ardis’s groundbreaking research on venom peptides discovered in the “safe and effective” experiment. Dr. Ardis’s findings reveal that these venom peptides are also being introduced into our water supply. These toxins impact the nicotine receptors in various organs such as the kidneys, bowels, brain, heart, ovaries, and testes. Discover the antidote and other effective strategies for counteracting these poisons by using purified, filtered, and structured water.

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MARTIN: Good morning. This is Martin Pytela, Health Coach at Life Enthusiast. Last week, I talked about the lectures by Dr. Brian Ardis. He originally released a documentary about “Watch The Water,” as in, he started discovering venoms. Venoms from poisonous creatures, snakes, and insects, and sea creatures like mollusks, specifically conotoxins from cone snails. Anyway, he started discovering them in water. And he realized that the military-funded research has made it into companies, one of them is famously named Gilead. Other companies are manufacturing these snake and other toxins in the form of peptides.

And these peptides are able to be packaged into what’s known as plasmid. And this plasmid is a tiny packet of DNA that is surrounded by the mRNA delivery technology that’s essentially liposomal. A whole bunch of words about technical, how this is put together. But the bottom line of it is that it is made by bacteria that have been genetically modified or by molds or fungus that have been genetically modified or yeast. And these things, once they are delivered into the human body, are infinitely reproducible and reproducing. Unlike other things that we naturally encounter for which there is an on and off switch, as in a gene. Every gene that we have genetically in us has a signal that turns it on and signal that turns it off.

This new technology that has been developed in labs and released out into the wild doesn’t have an off switch. Once in, it just continues to work and continues to reproduce and continues to affect the physiology of the humans and probably other animals like dogs, cats, horses, goats, and everything else that it gets into. This is an experiment that may prove to be quite destructive to many things. Anyway, what Dr. Ardis explained is that these things can be aerosolized, and aerosol is something that is small enough that it will float in the air.

There are two competing theories of how illness happens. One of the theories is the seed theory or Germ theory. They declare that seed is always the dominant feature and by that they say is that the germ being the equivalent of the seed falls in wherever it may fall in and always will bloom into the plant that it was meant to become and of course in the germ theory that means that when you plant a tuberculosis bacterium it will give you tuberculosis. When you plant a gonorrhea as a gonococcus, you will have the illness, gonorrhea. Then they expanded that theory to include viruses, which they’re reaching because with bacteria it’s easy. You can find a way to apply the four principles established by Robert Koch, a German germologist. He was a biological researcher. Anyway, he established these four principles, postulates, they call them. Which require that you are able to, one, find something in the sick person that’s not in the healthy person, isolate the thing, and then take the thing, put it into a healthy person, and that healthy person will become a sick person in the same manner as the first one. Steps, right?

You have to be able to isolate it and you have to be able to inoculate it into another person and cause the same symptoms. Those are the postulates. You cannot extend these into virology because with a virus you can never isolate it and you can never transmit it. They insist that it’s transmissible, but we’re not so sure of it. Anyway, so the theory of the seed versus the soil, the soil being the terrain, the terrain theory says: “The seed will grow only if the soil is fertile.” So perhaps the truth is somewhere in the middle, the combination of the two, is that only if I am a willing recipient of a message of a germ, will I develop the symptoms. And that’s truly what happened. People who were falling seriously ill with this infection were those who had comorbidities, people whose immune systems have been or were challenged, people with high blood pressure, obesity, other circumstantial problems, immune challenges.

So where am I headed with this? Well, we have the development in the military laboratories when they’re testing for gain of function, a process by which they create something that wasn’t there before. And with that, they are able to release this or at least transmit it to another person and cause an effect. And in these circumstances, the effects are pretty deadly. So Dr. Ardis says you will see effects that are mapped back to the venoms that they are researching or including in this genetic payload.

So we go back to the beginning. So we have a plasmid. Inside of this plasmid is a coiled piece of DNA and in that piece of DNA, we have programmed the specific venom that when delivered will deliver specific effects. So the SARS-CoV-2, two dominant venoms in it, one was from King Cobra and the other one was from Chinese krait snake. And both of these have a strong effect on the nervous system. And he identified the alpha seven nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, which is great in many cells, an important point in the brainstem. And in the brainstem, when affected or infected, it will start blocking the function of the diaphragm. The diaphragm being the bellows, the pump that when that muscle moves, diaphragm is a flat muscle that’s separating your lungs from the rest of your belly. And that diaphragm is supposed to be pushing upward when you exhale and then pushing downward when you inhale. And you can see that your belly and your chest should expand when you’re inhaling. Well, this diaphragm controls your breathing.

So if that muscle becomes paralyzed completely, well, then you’re done. But partially you are unable to breathe correctly. And this is how these snakes kill their victims by disabling their ability to oxygenate so they become sleepy and unable to move and then the snake can do their business by swallowing them whole. So when this arrives inside of a human, the diaphragm function starts going downhill. And also the heart function starts going downhill. And that’s what we saw. We saw people in hypoxia, oxygenation levels are supposed to be 97, 98, 99%. People were turning up with 60 and even 50%, which is very critically ill. And in the emergency rooms, they were treating it as a lung problem rather than as a poisoning problem. The most similar thing to this is cyanide poisoning. Cyanide kills you by stopping your ability to oxygenate. So they should have treated it as either an altitude illness or cyanide poisoning or blood poisoning perhaps. And they have emergency room protocols for cyanide poisoning. They know what to do.

But that’s not what they did. They instead treated it as a lung illness, intubating people and all of that other stuff that went on. The point that I’m trying to get to is this, the delivery system, whatever’s going on inside of me, my system is going to process that and exhale it or produce it, right? The quickest way out is exhalation. The second one is sputum as in stuff you spit out, and your sweat and your urine and your other fluids could be feces, could be other bodily fluids that will contact others. But sweat is enough, right? So when you touch another person and come in touch with their perspiration, you are sampling their microbes. So now that we understand that these plasmids deliver the payload that will infect the bacteria that are living inside of us. That means that we become ready factories producing these changed genetics. We continue to produce these. That also means that at some point everybody’s going to encounter it on various levels. Like if you get a big dose of it, then that’s the infection in the wild.

If you’re going to have it injected into your body, well, that’s a voluntary injection. And of course, then there’s this concept called shedding, which means that you will exchange with one another. And at some point it’s going to be everywhere. The other delivery methodology, spraying it in the air and putting it in the water. And I suppose it’s possible somebody decides to inoculate the water supply in a specific building or in a specific city or in a specific segment of town. They can do that. All they have to do is inject this into the water supply because once I drink it, it gets into my gut, then it modifies the microbiome and on and on and on. So the reason I’m giving this introduction is that I want to talk to you about what blocks it because Dr. Ardis gave very clear answers of what’s blocking this.

And especially what’s blocking the next one that’s coming because they’ve already told us what’s coming. They announced that it was going to be the Marburg infection, which is less easy to catch, but much more deadly. It’s from the Ebola class. And once infected, it’s bleeding from the eyes and every other soft or mucosal barrier that would be bleeding from the mouth, anus, reproductive organs, really bad news.

The one important thing is that this stuff can be blocked. One, it can be blocked by chlorine. So as long as there’s enough chlorine in the water supply, it will kill it, but they control it and they can decide to dial it back. I should start talking about the antidotes at the same time. So for example, I have here, here’s a bottle of it. This is called Amazing O and this bottle is called Amazing Soak. These two things contain the same chemical, it’s called a Fulton chloride mix. And what that does is when you release it, it will produce a hypochlorous acid. It smells a bit like your public pool, like your public water supply. That’s because it’s the same chemical that they would use. It releases not chlorine, but hypochlorous acid, which is the same thing that your white blood cell will release inside your body when it tries to kill an invader. So this thing is in fact quite safe to use and non-destructive to your overall physiology, but because it has a very, very high ORP, oxidation reduction potential, it raises the ORP level from the normal friendly minus 25 millivolt or so, past zero into the positive territory, past 650 millivolt. 650 millivolt kills E. coli bacteria. This thing goes to 700, 750, meaning that whatever you put it in contact with is going to be destroyed. The microbes, that is. So I have a solution in my spray bottle. So the way we use it is we take this concentrate and we make a 2% solution that’s a teaspoon into a cup. So this being four ounces or half a cup this would have half a teaspoon or 50 drops of the concentrate and you can use it by spraying it on any surface like this or in your mouth.

And when you do that, it goes right into your lungs. And we also have it available in a spray that we call O-Spray. And this thing has on the top, this special injector that when you press this downward, mist comes out of the top. So you just blow it up your nose. That’s kind of handy because otherwise whatever’s in your nose, in your sinuses and the like, you want to sterilize it, wipe it out, get rid of it. So you can spray this thing on your keyboard, on your telephone, on your microphone, on whatever surface, on groceries, when you bring them home, it’s super useful. Whatever you spray it on, the microbes living on the surface of that thing are done. ROS, reactive oxygen species. It’s like fire to them.

So that was one. Dr Ardis said that, one, chlorine destroys this stuff. That’s what this is. This is the chloride blend. It’s edible. It’s the same stuff that EPA has certified to be used in drinking water, to destroy the microorganisms. What we have here is we have it in bulk and we can use it in higher concentration and it works super efficiently. So that’s my number one tool.

Since we all use this lovely thing called Nano Soma, we end up with a collection of bottles, right? So these one ounce bottles are super handy. So an eighth of a teaspoon or 12 drops of the concentrate is put into this bottle filled with water and there’s your handy sprayer, spray it everywhere you need. Handy. Fits any purse, any pocket. Why am I mentioning Nano Soma? Nano Soma repairs three things.

One, It repairs mitochondria. That means that your food to energy conversion is optimized. The blood glucose levels are optimized. And one of the major symptoms, diabetes, of this infection is neutralized.

Two, it optimizes all cell receptors. One of the receptors that we heard mentioned was this alpha seven nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. Well, that’s one of the many. There’s iodine receptor, vitamin C receptor, vitamin D receptor, and so on. There are many. And all of these receptors get optimized with Nano Soma in the body. That’s why we see such positive changes. All of the negative effects of infections and, and of aging and of interacting with damaging, eating badly or behaving badly or whatever else we do to cause ourselves to age.

Nano Soma is very helpful in de-aging. I see it in myself that in the last three years that I have been using Nano Soma, I definitely don’t feel a minute older than I was three years ago. Hard to guess because this is an experiment with a sample of one. It’s hard for me to make claims about what I would be or would have been like had I not been on it, but it feels good. Anyway, that’s the optimization of receptors. And the important ones are vitamin D. We know that everybody on sufficient vitamin D levels is resilient toward infections. And vitamin C optimization. This was a major discovery Dr. Raghavan made, which has to do with this. Vitamin C can be either endogenous or exogenous. Exogenous is from the outside, supplemented as vitamin C pills and powders. Endogenous is vitamin C in the body, circulating. There appears to be a huge differential in effectiveness. The external you need to supplement something like a thousand milligrams every hour or so in order to make a significant impact on somebody who’s got an acute health problem. But the endogenous, you need only a few milligrams for it to work effectively. It appears to be recycling this endogenous vitamin C, which is akin to you being able to make your own vitamin C, which is something that a chimpanzee can do, but the human cannot for some who knows what reason that the genetics shifted.

Anyway, it’s important because vitamin C was another item on the list that he said is going to block the expression of this incoming threat, (Marburg). Two other things he mentioned, glutathione and NAC. NAC, as in N-acetylcysteine, is a precursor to Glutathione. We have the ability to deliver glutathione in liposomal packaging.

Normal glutathione that’s not liposomal will not survive the trip through the digestive tract. But once you make it liposomal, it will get absorbed, and it will do its job. The job of glutathione is to help recycle and recharge all these electron delivering vitamins. Vitamin C and B and A and all of the other ones. Their main job is to move the currency of life, electrons.

To explain, oxidation is the taking away of an electron. Reduction is giving it back. Oxidation is acidifying. Reduction is alkalizing. So when you are burning something, converting food into energy, you are oxidizing. And you have to. If you don’t oxidize, you are essentially dead. But in the process of doing so, you’re creating these ROS, reactive oxygen species. And you need to have plenty of that on board in order to support life. And this supplement that I showed you just a moment ago is a supply of the ROS and it’s needed in order to lift the body’s ability to fight the external threats. Now that the threats have been eliminated, we also need to be able to extinguish the fires.

And that happens through reduction and the reduction happens with the vitamins. But the vitamin, as soon as the vitamin C donates its electron, it has to go back, visit with glutathione, the glutathione will recharge it. And then the glutathione is the one that’s lacking the electrons. So the glutathione has to go to your liver and through methylation be recharged there. So it’s a complex dance. So these are billions of transactions per second. This is really fast-moving stuff.

Anyway, so what am I saying here? Glutathione is helping the body recharge the vitamin C, which will refresh the balance of everything in the body. And then finally, the last one that was mentioned was EDTA. EDTA is a binder of electropositive things, calcium, magnesium, but also mercury and lead and other electropositive charged that’s like, when you see the equations written out in chemistry, you will see Ca++, which is two electrons that are needing to be bound. So what do we do here? Well, we need to deliver on both sides. For a healthy person when you lower the level of performance, you lower both the oxidation and the antioxidation, you could be stable, but you’re stable at a very miserably low level, so you’re hardly alive. To be fully alive, you need a high level of oxidation and a high level of antioxidation reduction. You have to have both. So that’s what we’re doing. We need to deliver ROS and we need to also deliver the antioxidants. We’re working on something, you have heard of methylene blue. That’s one of the ways of delivering high levels of antioxidants. So we’re going to do that, but Vitamin C will do for now.

Okay. Now. How are they delivering it to us? They’re delivering it to us on water. In water, we need a highly efficient delivery system. Now water tends to cluster. This happens by static or buildup of static electric potential. To demonstrate, when I rub my hands like this together and try to feel charge between them, you can demonstrate it to yourself. Another way of course would be, if you go in your socks on a carpet and you shuffle your feet and then you touch the door knob and poof, you have a discharge. That’s the discharge of the electric buildup.

Well, something very similar happens with water as it’s flowing through the pipe. If you visualize the pipe is a round thing and water that flows near the center is facing less resistance than the water that is touching the walls of the pipe, the inside walls. And so that water is being slowed down by the walls, which means that there is this laminar friction. And with that friction, we’re seeing a buildup of this electric charge. And that’s what’s causing clustering of water. The greater the charge, the bigger the cluster size. And the important bit is this, water gets into your cells through aquaporin channels that allow water to come in only a single file. Tiny openings. So only the water molecules that are unattached to other water molecules come through. So if you have a very high percentage of the water molecules that are clustering, you will be irrigating yourself by drinking water, but you will not be hydrating yourself at the cellular level because these clusters will not allow water to get in. We need to discharge that.

So I have multiple methods, by which we discharge it. I want to show you what I have here. This is the gadget that I use in my life. So you see, this is a gallon size jug and inside of this jug, I have a bag of Prills. Well, there are actually two. And then also there are these ceramic bits, we call them the Pearls. And these things passively by interacting with water are discharging these energies. It’s sort of like popping bubbles. The clusters are like the bubbles, and these crystals on contact just break it apart. So a much greater percentage of water molecules are unclustered, thereby getting me a much greater level of hydration. So that’s direct contact.

We also have a gadget that we make. We sell this as a Star Chamber Receiver, and it’s composed of the following. The bottom part, that’s a cupcake, and this is a pair of large Pearls, a pair of medium, and a pair of small. So these things here in this example, they’re glued together using epoxy. So we sell them separately, you can make your own. The way this is, there’s some sort of resonance that this device provides. I’m smelling it. It’s been more than a month since I put a single drop of aromatherapy oil. I like to smell spikenard. I put a single drop of spikenard on top of it. I can still smell it. It still is broadcasting it through my room here.

So anyway, you can buy the Pearls. I use the Pearls in the following manner. Here in this glass of water that I’m using, I have the Pearls on the bottom because they help to hold the water in a better energetic state. So that’s the ceramics that are really handy to have. Because when you keep water discharged, well, it behaves better. It becomes a better transporter of nutrients in and toxins out of cells. The water changes at lower surface tension, lower ORP, lower acidity, and smaller cluster sizes. That much we know. So then, I want to show you this other gizmo. This is a gizmo called ADR-4. In here, there’s an embossed ADR-4 on one side, nothing on the other. Anyway, it’s the size of my palm and whatever you put on top of it will get harmonized. It will discharge the stuck energies in whatever you put on it. This could be an apple, a bowl of salad, a bowl of soup, a cup of coffee. Even microwaved food gets harmonized. So if you warm up a cup of coffee in your microwave, please put it on this plate for like a minute, it will reharmonize the thing.

I travel with it, I go to restaurants with it, so whatever they serve me, I reharmonize it with this. And I want to show you this device that’s the ADR-3. And the ADR-3 is sold as a harmonizer of the environment. It clears geopathic influences. So wherever you keep this, you can aim it at a cell tower. It will push away the negativity of the cell tower, or you can just have it sitting like this. If you have underground water streams or overhead power lines or whatever else may be going on in your world, this thing will harmonize it. Anyway, it’s got interesting patterns, specific spots, and this is what’s on the inside of the ADR-4, together with some magnets specifically arranged. And that’s what does the harmonization. Very handy stuff. It’s not that expensive. The ADR-4 is currently $100, and ADR-3 is only $30.

And now I want to show you one more thing. This came out of my pocket. This is a bag, and inside of that bag is this. This thing is called Water Beads. You can see it’s just black beads mashed together. It’s flexible and they’re enclosed in this plastic packet. And this has the ability through resonance to affect water. So if you have a headache, you could put it up here. It will relieve it. It was interesting. I had some sort of a kink in my neck. I put it up here for just, I don’t know, five minutes and it made a huge difference. So I keep this in my pocket. I take it with me everywhere. If you put it in your shirt pocket over your heart, it will help harmonize everything that’s going on in your circulatory system. Works on the principle of resonance, which means whatever you put it near of is going to get harmonized. It’s just amazing. So, very flexible, quite indestructible. You can ride over with your car. It’s not going to get destroyed. And that’s a $150 thing and it will last for a long time.

And we have a cousin to this, it’s called Water Sticks. These are tubes about this long, about the thickness of my finger, and you can put these tubes around a pipe, and when you do that, it will harmonize whatever’s flowing through it. So in my home, I now have harmonized water flowing through the pipes, and then charge it on top with all of this other stuff. I don’t know, insurance on top of insurance.

We also have some other gizmos, a whole house unit, Vortex units. They are called Vortex Water Revitalizer. It’s a device that’s a piece of pipe that has within it a baffle that causes the water to spin. And once that happens, toxins suspended in the water become neutralized. It’s quite amazing.

I’ve accomplished, telling you that you can expect that this technology, this plasmid based mRNA technology is going to be present in our world going forward. Now, whoever they are has learned that they can distribute it like this. They will because there is an agenda. The agenda is elimination of weak and just general population reduction.

That has become obvious. It’s a tug of war, if you will, the struggle for survival. I can expect that this will be part of my life going forward. So I’ll either be made sick by it or I’ll overcome it. So I’m going for having technologies present and available that are going to allow me to block this thing.

So one, increase the ORP. When I put these drops of Amazing O or Amazing Soak in water, I have raised the ORP such that the things that are in water get killed. If I spray it in my face, in my nose, in my mouth, whatever, I neutralize that which is within me. If I use these little beads in my water, I’m improving water quality. So that. It allows me to be better hydrated. It’s called stagnation, right? When you don’t have enough movement, traffic, it’s turning your body into a swamp that’s definitely not what we want or need.

And I did mention this thing called Nano Soma. That is the defense that you need for repairing the DNA. Oh yeah. That was the third point I wanted to make, right? Nano Soma does three things. One, repair mitochondria. Two, repair receptor sites on the cell membranes. And three, repair the DNA itself. So the talk was about these plasmids delivering mRNA. mRNA gets into DNA. How? It’s called reverse transcriptase. There’s an enzyme that takes whatever you’re encountering in your environment and pushes it into the cells so that when the cell reproduces again next time, it will be affected by what it’s encountering in its environment. Nano Soma is importantly restoring the original blueprint. It’s optimizing the reproduction. To describe it, I don’t know if you remember photocopiers from the old days where we would have a master, and we’d make a photocopy of that. And we would try to hang on to the master because if we didn’t, there’s always some loss of detail, some loss of sharpness, resolution when you make a copy. So if you make a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy, it doesn’t take too long before photographs are unrecognizable. Even text becomes illegible. Well, that’s what’s going on. If we reproduce without the presence of something that helps to reset and repair. There are automatic repair mechanisms in the body, but with nanosoma on board, you’re strongly supporting these functions that your body would naturally have to maintain itself in the original blueprint. So that’s what that’s for.

Beyond that, I have Humic Acid, humic and fulvic about as brown as this, and Humic Acid is mostly carbonaceous. And it has the ability to deal with these carbon structures. These carbon structures are coming to us as graphene oxide. Humic Acid has the ability to help your body to take it apart. So taking humic acid daily is very helpful to maintain the terrain in which your microbiome is going to remain healthy. It’s the microbiome that is dictating the quality of life. So if your microbiome has been modified to reproduce the venoms, it’s going to do that. If it’s modified to reproduce the graphene oxide structures that seem to be self-assembling and creating all kinds of havoc in your blood, humic acid will help us undo that.

So I would recommend it as a daily routine. We sell a product we call Biome Magic. It’s a combination of 60% humic, 40% fulvic. Humic is great in the gut. Fulvic is great in the cells in the manner of being able to detoxify you. I would recommend that. We also sell something called Ancient Carbon, which is the original source of this, both the humic and fulvic. You can take a peek at that. And I add it to my smoothies, it just adds a bit of carbon. It really optimizes the internal functioning.

How to explain what we need to do to cover ourselves for the future? Because now that they have released it, they can’t unrelease it. This is now in the wild, and it’s not going to stop coming. It will. We all will be shedding. We all will be meeting people who are at various levels of genetic distress. I recall Dr. Ardis mentioning four main things. One was glioblastoma, which is brain tumors, diabetes, which is the dysregulation of the mitochondria, Parkinson’s, which is a dysregulation of the receptors, specifically the vitamin D receptor. In the case of Parkinson’s, it’s over-regulated, revving at high speed, causing the body to not be able to regulate, as in you are unable to control the muscles, the movements. That’s Parkinson’s anyway. And the fourth one was myocarditis, which of course, that’s the inflammation of the heart muscle itself. The other places where this stuff likes to go is reproductive organs. So, this has to do with fertility, messing around with that. Women unable to conceive, well, men unable to conceive as well. Women unable to carry the pregnancy to term. And also really weird stuff like postmenopausal women bleeding again, which is probably unwelcome. So those things all are related to these venoms that are going to be more and more common with us.

What happens with the mutations is, of course, they become less and less threatening because the more and more people that are encountering it, every time an infection gets into somebody, it has the option of killing the person or not. If the immune system wins over the infection, whatever is coming out of me are weakened mutations.

Right? I’ve overcome it. So the more and more people are encountering it, it’s becoming more common, but also less life-threatening. That’s just the standard fare, right? The COVID when it first got released was pretty deadly, and three years in, the mutations are “a nothing”, a “who cares?” So if I get a cold, it’s no longer a deadly problem.

Anyway, so they’ll release something new, I imagine. The point is we need to have the technology available. I would encourage you to have the Amazing O and the Amazing Soak on hand. Because by the time you need it, it will always take three days minimum shipping from us to you. You should have it on hand. Nano Soma, same thing. I use it every day. I expect to use it for the rest of my life, hoping that this will stay available.

Humic, I’m mentioning that. You can add to it by raising your Vitamin C, getting Glutathione, getting EDTA. Those things are available, and you can have them in your arsenal. I currently don’t. I have used EDTA to do some detoxing. Like once a year, I just run a bottle of that through me just to clear stuff out.

CB1, CB2, that has to do with cannabidiol, which is the protein produced by hemp, but also produced by our immune system. I’m not aware of any interaction between these microbes, the mRNA technology, and how your body works. I could only imagine that the Nano Soma will improve their functioning. I am not aware of there being any problem with the toxins.

You know, the toxic things like the plasmids that were artificially released. I don’t think they’re blocking that function at all. These letters remind me of something. Th1, Th2. These are signaling molecules for the immune system. T helper cell, which has to do with activating either the innate or the acquired side of the immune system.

If I remember right, TH1 stimulates the innate and TH2 stimulates the acquired. And of course, this whole technology that relies on the concept of vaccination is trying to replace the innate with the acquired. It says your innate system is not good enough, but when we give you this blueprint, your acquired immune system is going to be able to fight every infection. That’s the whole concept behind vaccinations, which we’ll soon be hearing in the mainstream, just what an unenlightened way this was. I think it won’t take too many years before the entire vaccination industry has been completely debunked and made to be seen for what it is, a total fraud. You cannot replace natural immunity with vaccinations.

Now you will hear all this propaganda about how vaccinations have stopped infectious diseases, but I am quite strongly convinced that it was hygiene and better nutrition that’s responsible for that. I believe that these problems that we have encountered, epidemics, had more to do with being malnourished than being infected.

I’m recalling a lecture by Dr. Thomas Seyfried, who’s a researcher into cancer, especially specifically glioblastoma, where he’s explaining that glioblastoma can be greatly reduced or improved upon when we change the diet of the person. Cancer being an obligate glucose metabolizer. He explains that when we starve the body, and especially when we switch to a ketogenic diet, meaning this, a healthy human cell can convert fat to energy. It will of course convert starch or carbohydrates into energy, but it can also do it with fat. A cancer cell cannot convert fat into energy. So when you starve the body of starch, of carbohydrates, you starve cancer cells while normal cells survive. So he demonstrated that by changing people’s diets, he changed the outcomes. That’s what he did.

I don’t know glioblastoma, what triggers it really, that’s something I’m not sure of. If we go to the original research by Otto Warburg, he discovered that cancer will arise when the oxygen level is reduced by 30% permanently, meaning it’s either presence of toxins or imbalance of the pH. Because the oxygen carrying capacity of the bodily fluids is inversely proportional to the pH. When the pH is out of the normal range of 7.3 to 7.4, especially when it goes toward acidity, the ability to carry oxygen goes away geometrically. Like it’s not just a linear, it’s a logarithmic drop off. And then of course, the local presence of toxins. I don’t know how toxins get into the brain. We hear conversations about the glymphatic system. The system of brain cleansing and restoration that takes place overnight, that we have to have functioning. So maybe this automatic cleansing that happens overnight is somehow impaired, thereby building up a level of toxicity in the brain, thereby allowing for the cells to turn to the dark side, so to speak. Anyway, that’s me speculating, just basing it on theories that I have read and studied.

You know, I’m not a doctor nor am I a cancer specialist. So this is just taking a good guess based on years of reading that I’ve done. All right.

This has been Martin Pytela, health coach at Life Enthusiast. You find me at life-enthusiast.com. You can reach me by phone at 866-543-3388.

Thank you for being here today.

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Podcast 472: Biodynamic Water Filter System

It has been scientifically proven that water is a cage-like molecule with the remarkable ability to store frequencies and information. In today’s podcast, Charlles Bohdy joins Martin Pytela to discuss his personal journey of discovering water’s unconventional properties and defying society’s conventional teachings about water. Upon recognizing the inaccuracies in his prior water education, Charlles embarked on experiments with filtering and structuring water back to its most pure and true form. Tune in to discover why this Biodynamic Water Filtration system offers a unique and superior alternative to the standard water filtering units on the market that we prevalently see today.

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CHARLLES: Well, thank you for having me. It’s a true pleasure. I also enjoyed our previous conversation.

MARTIN: Hi, everyone. This is Martin Pytela, and with me today, Charlles Bohdy. And Charlles comes to me with a very, very interesting story. He and I talked, and we’re going to do a bit of a repeat of that because the world needs to know people like Charlles. Charlles Bohdy, welcome to Life Enthusiast podcast.

MARTIN: Great. Yeah, it takes one to know one, doesn’t it?

CHARLLES: Yes, sir.

MARTIN: We call it a meeting agenda, what we want to cover. Did you want to lead in?

CHARLLES: Yeah.

MARTIN: Why does the world need to know about what we have to offer? What is the matter with water that people don’t really understand?

CHARLLES: Boy, I’ll tell you, that is a deep subject and a wet one, as my dad used to say growing up. And the real truth is that water is, it’s something that makes up 70% plus of our bodies. And it’s all around us. It’s required for health. You die without water much faster than you die without food. Air is the only thing that you need more of than water to stay alive. And in order for us to understand water, we really need to do a deep dive because we’ve been taught in school that it’s a simple chemical H2O, two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, and that’s it. It’s water. And we’ve got to drink it every day. And that’s about it.

MARTIN: Water is so mysterious because if it weren’t liquid, you really chemically should think of it as a metal.

CHARLLES: And it’s anomalous. You know, water defies so many different things. There are so many anomalous features of water that it truly beggars belief. Its capacity to absorb heat is phenomenal.

MARTIN: Yeah, the magical four degrees centigrade that allows the creatures that live in water to survive in water even when it’s frozen.

CHARLLES: That’s right. That’s right. And we’re just taught to, we don’t even think about water. It’s around us. We have to drink it every day. That’s about it. Some of us that are water enthusiasts, we like to go to the beach or go to our backyard and enjoy our swimming pool. But it’s not something we give much contemplation to. Some people are paranoid about drinking tap water. So they buy bottled water from the store thinking that they’re doing themselves and their bodies a favor. And that’s just not the case. That opens a whole secondary can of worms. But I think for starters, it’s good to understand that water is not a simple chemical. I mean, going back to the Bible and some of the ancient scriptures from other religions, it says in the very first chapter of the first book: ‘He divided the waters above from the waters beneath.’ That’s before anything was created. If you follow the Genesis narrative, it started with water. And so, recent studies over the last 25 years in physics have uncovered some startling facts about water. There’s a very brilliant professor. He’s the former dean of material sciences at Stanford University, Professor William Tiller. And he posited and then proved that water is a cage-like molecule capable of storing frequencies and information. Its function is more akin to a liquid crystal as opposed to a simple, sterile H2O stuff that we were taught about in school. So it has a memory.

MARTIN: Yeah. And I would like to butt in here with, I think of it as God’s memory device.

CHARLLES: Well, it is. It is.

MARTIN: Because it actually acts as a random access memory. Well, and homeopathy is a witness to this, right?

CHARLLES: Absolutely. That’s the basis of homeopathy, the capacity to introduce a small amount of a substance into water. And the less of it you have, the stronger the concentration of the homeopathic remedy is. And that’s because you’re getting closer and closer on multiple dilutions to getting the pure frequency only, rather than the substance in the fluid. And then water-based homeopathic remedies have to be percussed or banged to reinstitute that frequency of the tiniest amount of data or information that’s in that water for the homeopathic remedy to be functional.

MARTIN: I raised my children, myself and wife, we raised our children using homeopathy. That there were no antibiotics or painkillers or, whatever’s, you know, oh, did you just have a fall? Well, is this an Arnica fall?

CHARLLES: Yes, exactly. And in my home, we use both homeopathy and naturopathy. And for antibiotic effects, we make our own nanoparticle colloidal silver on our counters. And we rely on a lot of things that are not what I would call ‘Harma-ceuticals.’

MARTIN: Right. Yeah.

CHARLLES: But with water, going back to this strange substance, this cage-like molecule, we have a few things we’ve got to deal with. First of all, we’ve got to filter out the physical particulate. And when we get the water to a pure state, we still have contaminated information in our water because we have, as you mentioned, it’s a God’s hard drive. It has the capacity to retain the information of pathogens and toxic chemicals and anything that it’s come into contact with. Pharmaceuticals, anything, the water that comes out of our tap, we often have never considered. And very few of us have ever visited a modern water treatment plant.

About 15 years ago, when I began building and testing and studying structuring devices. I was friends with the health inspector in my hometown. I’d given a speech before all of the health inspectors in the state of Ohio. And he secured a tour for me of our local water treatment plant in my hometown, which was considered to be as far as the West goes state-of-the-art. It was very recently built, it was only a few years old. And I got to tour this brilliant water treatment plant. And let’s just say it’s just close to barbaric.

The water comes in the toilets and the sinks and the gutters and the runoff, and it runs to this big processing plant. And it goes through a machine that grabs all of the gross stuff that gets flushed down the toilet, the wet wipes and the thick toilet papers that don’t dissolve. They call that the grabber, and it pulls this crud out. And then that gets it shuttled and compressed into bins and put in with the biosolids eventually. And then it goes through a series of tanks, where they basically chlorinate the ever living crap out of it to try and kill the pathogens to the best of their ability. And then they do have several other tanks where they hope to allow biological digestion to continue after the heavy duty pathogen killing is done.

And then when it gets relatively clear and the turbidity gets and turbidity is a measurement of opacity, how much you can see through the water, when it gets to a certain level, and it hits the minimum threshold for pathogens, it goes right back into the pipes and right back up into the water towers and goes right back into the people’s houses to drink again.

MARTIN: Right. Well, the objective is that we do not poison and infect the population.

CHARLLES: That’s right.

MARTIN: While drinking sewage that’s coming out of the town that’s upstream.

CHARLLES: Exactly right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

CHARLLES: And so, I was just blown away at their lack of sophisticated knowledge about water. And of course, I didn’t mention that here in the States, maybe not so much in Canada, but here in the States, they also have a station where they dump in bags of toxic fluoride, of course, to save our teeth. Not to mention that 99% of the water that comes out of a house is water pipes. Doesn’t go in the mouth for tooth brushing, it goes into the gardens, it goes into the sinks, it goes into the showers and the toilets and the baths. And it’s not the kind of fluoride that they used in the tooth studies that they leaned on to sell this to the public. It’s a by-product of refining metals and a by-product of doing electrolytic deposition and other things. It’s a toxic waste product. So what they’ve created for themselves is a free EPA toxic waste removal scheme where this poison gets swirled down our drains and they don’t have to pay for it, matter of fact, they get paid to dump it.

MARTIN: Doesn’t get better.

CHARLLES: So, that is another one of the toxins, and fluoride. I have some brilliant scientific friends that have been working very diligently to get fluoride banned from our drinking water here in the United States. And it is a tremendous neurotoxin, it has proven to cause developmental delays in children, and it doesn’t stop just because you’re finished growing. It continues to work in calcifying the pineal gland, and it has all sorts of other detrimental toxic effects. So one of the things that’s super important if you’re in the United States to do is filter the fluoride out. Forget about all the other things, the fluoride itself, they add that after it’s supposedly purified.

MARTIN: Yes, 100% fluoride does horrible things to us. Chlorine does horrible things to us too. It decimates the microbes living within us.

CHARLLES: And we’ve got what they call DBPs or disinfection byproducts, which are the chloramines, the trihalomethanes, and the other toxic byproducts as chlorine interacts with biological matter that are created. And those have well-documented toxic, poisonous effects. And you had mentioned why is it so important to treat the water that comes out of the rest of our faucets that isn’t the water that we drink? And I’ve compiled a rather gruesome list if you’re brave enough to hear it.

MARTIN: Sure let’s have it this is why we’re here. We really want to enlighten the audience with understanding just how serious this issue is.

CHARLLES: Just a couple of years ago, there was a joint investigation that was done by Consumer Reports and The Guardian newspaper in England, testing water from across the United States at over 120 locations. The results were really frightening. They found that in over 118 of the 120 locations that were tested, there were levels of PFOS, arsenic, lead, and other minerals that were over the maximum allowable and considered unsafe.

MARTIN: And those allowable levels are not really beneficial to life.

CHARLLES: Oh no, the allowable levels are also too high. And in the states we don’t really test for the forever chemicals like PFOS and PFOA. And then there’s a whole long list of other industrial runoff. You have the nitrates and the nitrites from farming, and pesticides and irrigation and residual fertilizers that are washing away into the rivers, the streams, and the lakes and getting into the water table. And other petrochemical, petroleum distillate-type poisons that enter the water stream and are very hard to remove.

MARTIN: Yes my favorite antibiotic, RoundUp.

CHARLLES: Oh well, glyphosate, my goodness. Yes. People, that’s a whole other show. But it’s probably responsible for the sickening of North America more than any other thing, besides the no-till seed drilling that puts mold into the food supply at the same time as it’s putting the poison. It used to be when they came out with Roundup, they only sprayed it to kill weeds. And whether your viewers are aware of this or not, they spray it on the crops just two weeks before harvest. So, it gets on the fully grown crops and grains. And they do that so that it all gets brown and dries out at the exact same time. It used to be that farmers fit their fields over a period of weeks, and the earliest planted crop would dry first and then subsequent fields in a rotation as the farmer’s time finished. That’s how they would rotate and harvest their crops. So now they want to do it all at once. So, they come in two weeks before harvest time and they spray this Roundup, this glyphosate on all the wheat, the corn, and the soybeans. And it dies all at the same time.

Then they can set up their geo-tracking-based combines that are computer-controlled, and the farmer sleeps behind the seat. And they go all over the fields, harvesting all of the grains all at once. And it saves the farmer a lot of effort. I mean, the reason why the farmers like it is because it takes away a lot of their workload. But that means that those poisons have been sprayed right onto the fields. Well, guess what happens when you spray it onto the grain? It gets into the grain. When you spray it onto the fields, as soon as it rains, it runs right into the water table. And then we’re back to this subject of contaminated runoff. It gets into the rivers, it gets into the lakes, it gets into the water stream, it even poisons the first several hundred feet of the ocean.

If most of the fishermen that I know, I live in Florida, they need to go out at least a mile, mile and a half before they’ll even think about eating the fish because of the poisonous runoff that they get from the shore. And when you can affect that large of a body of water, imagine your local small water supply in your hometown. And it’s happening all around, it’s happening all the time. It’s happening all around North America and all over the world.

So they found lead. Lead is one of the most common contaminants. And many of the old towns had lead water mains. And they’ve outlawed lead in new construction, but that doesn’t mean that it’s gone from the older towns. Most of the older towns still have these ancient lead water mains running from the downtown square. And then as it gets out into the suburbs and the newer areas, it switches over to iron or PEX or something else. But oftentimes closest to the source, they’re still actual lead mains or the old brass fittings that had lead in them before they made the brass become lead-free. And it’s horrific, it’s a terrible poison.

We have Arsenic, it’s another element and it’s another super toxic poison. It causes nausea, vomiting, it drops your production of red and white blood cells. It can create heart rhythms and damage to your blood vessels. A lot of people that suffer from pins and needles in their feet and their hands, may be suffering from arsenic without realizing it. And it’s more common than you think. In this study that they did with Consumer Reports, they found arsenic was a very common poison found all over.

And then we’ve got nitrates, which come from fertilizers and feedlots and industrial waste and food processing. High levels of nitrite can decrease your body’s ability to carry oxygen to the tissue. And so, we found that the number one cause of all of our degenerative diseases today is hypoxia, which is a lack of oxygen in the tissues. And it’s usually caused by inflammation, but this can be a direct contributing factor, the nitrates that are running off from farmer’s fields.

And then radon, which is a gas, and you can be taking a shower and get radon coming out in the form of a gas. It happens due to naturally occurring uranium and thorium and radium breakdown in the water, and very few filters do anything to remove the radioactive elements. And so you can be breathing that gas in while you’re standing in your own shower.

And then you’ve got really hard, you get into the biologicals. And those are a whole other level of living things that are active pathogens, some of which can handle the natural amounts of chlorine that they use in our water treatment facilities. Things like Legionella can swim around in two parts per million of chlorine and do just fine. And the list goes on and on. You have Cryptosporidium and you’ve got Campylobacter and E. Coli. And these are all often present in the water lines from biofilms that build up along the course of our cities’ municipal water supply system. And then they’ve fed and lived there long after the water was treated. So as it’s going from the treatment plant back to your house, it picks up these pathogens. And that doesn’t even begin to talk about what’s living in your own pipes, in your own house, in your shower heads and things.

You have enterovirus, and that comes typically from fecal matter that goes in these sewage treatment plants. And they get it down to acceptable levels, but that doesn’t mean it’s gone. And you’ve got Giardia and Hepatitis. And as I mentioned before, Legionella. And these are all real things. Norovirus, a very common thing, also found in this study. All these things were found in this actual study. Rotavirus, another thing that’s really common from manure. And you’ve got Salmonella, which most people know about, and Shigella. And again, often these things are related to the sewage treatment plants themselves.

MARTIN: So there are actually known instances where these levels were found to be there and the water has been sampled and tested and documented that despite treatment, there you are.

CHARLLES: Yes. I mean, they get it down to acceptable levels when it leaves the plant. But again, there’s all these connections and hubs and junctures where the water travels through the pipes, and they can develop and hide out and live in biofilms that build up on the inside of these pipes and these accretions of minerals and dead carcasses.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. Let me change gears a wee bit. I’d like to get people a taste of how and why you know what you know. Let’s just dive into a bit of, well, how did Charlles become an expert in water?

CHARLLES: I started my career 35 years ago solving water problems. But I am a product developer for a living. So that is the fancy 2024 term for an old-fashioned inventor. And I have developed products across a range of industries. First, we develop the product. I design it. We test it as a prototype. And then we put it into full-blown manufacturing. We manufacture a complete line of ozone equipment, sanitizing equipment. And then I hold patents for nanotechnology in water, something called nanoplasmoid generation, a nanobubble. So I’ve been at the water thing for a long time.

But I started studying the work of a brilliant guy named Victor Schauberger about 15-20 years ago. Victor Schauberger, in my mind, is the 2nd greatest genius of the 20th century that very little is known about by most people. I would say the greatest mind of the 20th century was a guy named Nikola Tesla. And the second greatest mind was a guy named Victor Schauberger. In many ways, they were contemporaries in terms of their lifespan. Victor is a little bit younger than Nikola. And he was born in Austria.

He became a forest warden in the Black Forest at the turn of the last century. And he’s become the father of a science that today we call biomimicry. His motto was to study nature, understand it, and then copy it. So he was very scientifically minded. When he was out in the forest making his rounds, he studied the streams and the rivers. He made detailed notes of the hydrological cycle. He studied how trout were able to seemingly defy gravity and swim upstream, jumping up waterfalls that would blow a 250-pound man right off of his feet. They couldn’t stand in this water. And here these trout are virtually flying up the waterfall. He began to develop theories about water that were radical, literally setting the world of modern hydrology on its head when divulged.

His first claim to fame was after being a forest warden for 20 years. His baron that he worked for had issued a challenge to build the world’s largest log flume. A log flume is sort of like a chute full of water that kind of looks like the amusement park rides where they have the hollowed-out logs and the people ride inside of them when they go flowing down a hillside into a body of water and splash at the bottom. What they would do is in order to log these forests that were up high in the mountains, they would chop down the trees and then typically they would put them into the rivers and they would go all the way down the rivers and the streams so they got to the bottom of the valleys where the wood processing mills and plants were. These deep forests were so far away that the logs would become smashed to smithereens and be unusable. The only practical way that they developed to get them out was to build something called a log flume, which is a trough shaped like a ‘U’ and it would be full of water. They would float the logs down the chute. The problem was this forest that they wanted to log was further away than any conventional log flume had ever been built.

MARTIN: The high density point for water right.

CHARLLES: Absolutely, and he was able to float these logs that were considered to be heavier than water, that would not float, yet in this ice-cold 39-degree water, he was able to get enough buoyancy to send them down the chute. So all of the modern hydrologists that had lost this competition for building this log flume came out and they just ridiculed him. They said, ‘It’ll never work.’ And he said, ‘Oh, you’re probably right.’ So he let one of them try to operate it, and of course, it didn’t work. Then he had the logs removed that they couldn’t float. He emptied all the warm water, he filled it up with the ice-cold mountain stream water, and started sending these logs. It was so successful that he attracted the attention of probably the most brilliant European hydrological engineer from Germany, who became his good friend.

He was so old that he was no longer worried about his reputation in the end because it was established as a professor, and he brought him to speak before the hydrological societies of Europe, expounding his theories that he’d come up with. And that became my love affair with learning about Schauberger.

He didn’t just do log flumes; he studied everything about water. He learned that water has this capacity to store information. And that in nature, water clears that memory out by swirling the water through vortices and tumbling and cavitating. In modern engineering, we try to eliminate cavitation at all costs because it can be quite a powerful force that can eat up propellers on the back of boats and destroy parts. But in nature, cavitation served as a principle of scrubbing and erasing and re-priming the water to be fresh and full of information.

He also discovered that water has a life cycle much like everything else. It has an infantile state, an adolescent state, a mature state, and an aged state. And he believed that we should only be drinking water that was from the mature state because water that’s brand new, infantile water, new water, like distilled water or reverse osmosis water or rainwater that’s just gone through the rebirth in a hydrological cycle, is empty. It’s starving for information because the minerals have all been stripped out of it during its rebirthing processes, steam recondensing in the form of distilled water or rain being born from the evaporation-condensation cycle in the hydrological cycle, or being stripped of its minerals forcefully under pressure through reverse osmosis. In all cases, it’s virtually free of minerals, and so it wants to have information.

So, if you drink distilled water, it’s great for a cleanse. But over a long period of time, it can have detrimental effects. The same has been demonstrated with rainwater, and even reverse osmosis water has even more negative effects. But Victor began building devices to simulate the erasure of the information and then recreate perfect water. He developed many different ways to do this, but his research is really just groundbreaking, it’s seminal. It didn’t just start with the water and end with water; he developed devices for energy and all sorts of different technology.

MARTIN: What’s interesting here of course is that this goes against what the scientist, the hydrologist is taught at school to this day.

CHARLLES: Absolutely.

MARTIN: Like that whole concept became encapsulated and set aside because the engineering mind doesn’t understand it.

CHARLLES: That’s right, and they’re given a very limited, needle-like focus in their university training. And then they even let you know that this happens because you graduate with a degree. And my question always is, how many degrees does it take to become a whole? Right there’s 360 degrees in a circle, so if you only have one degree, you’re obviously deficient to the tune of 359 other subjects. And this is where we’ve allowed our expert mentality, our expert worship, to really devolve society in a negative way.

But he discovered that by cutting the trees down along rivers, we’re raising the temperature of our water and it destroys the hydrological cycle. And the worst thing you can ever do is build a dam on a river, and they do it all over in order to generate electricity. And that is also incredibly flawed. And Victor proved this because a way to create energy, he created a way to make energy from a river without doing any damming.

So, a very simple principle in hydrology, and they used this in the 1800’s to take apart whole mountains when they were mining, is they would take a stream at the top of a hill, and they would capture it into a large pipe 10, 12, 14, 18 inches wide. And then gradually they would narrow the pipe narrower and narrower and narrower and narrower. And when they got down to the bottom of the hill, it would go into a two-inch hose, and at the end of the hose there would be a nozzle with a half of an inch opening. And you would get pressure in thousands of pounds per square inch. And they could just take this water and carve apart hillsides to mine for gold and run all that muddy water into sluices and pan for free gold with it.

Well, that simple principle of reducing the orifice size and increasing pressure, we all know about because we have them in our backyards. Everybody has it in their house, it’s called a nozzle for your garden hose. So you restrict the orifice size on your hose, and all of a sudden that water that’s just coming out in a big arc when the nozzle isn’t on, you put the nozzle on, now it’ll shoot across your yard. Well, that principle can be applied to generating electricity in rivers, and that’s exactly what Victor Schauberger did.

He would constrict the river, force it through a narrow opening, which increased the pressure many hundreds of times. And then he developed a floating turbine that would take the pressurized water. Even more importantly, he created a shunt so that all of the fish and natural life of the river could go around it and not through the turbine. So it was nature’s, not harming nature, not destroying and killing the fish like we do with our modern turbines. And you can do this thousands of times down a river, you can have thousands of bends, thousands of constriction points, thousands of turbines.

MARTIN: Open to slow down, narrow to speed up

CHARLLES: Yes. And so you know we’ve,

MARTIN: Okay so i’m trying to get to you telling,

CHARLLES: And in studying all of this, I began to realize that everything that I’d been taught about water was essentially a lie. And I began building structuring devices, testing them, and I found the most astonishing things happening. One of the things I’ve been in love with for 30 years is electrolysis, the splitting of water into hydrogen and oxygen. And you know, there is a principle in electrolysis that if you’re taking water without any minerals in it, without any electrolyte, it will not separate, it won’t split because it won’t carry an electrical current. And what I found is by taking distilled water and running it through certain structuring devices a few times. I was able to get that water with no electrolyte, no minerals, to now begin to dissociate and do electrolysis without adding electrolytes.

Today in electrolysis, we add catalyst metals to our plates if we’re trying to split water without adding electrolytes like sodium hydroxide or baking soda or potassium hydroxide or things like that. But I found you could take regular distilled water without minerals and by running it through certain structuring devices a few times, get that water to split, which told me that everything I’d been taught wasn’t true.

Then I built something called a Brown’s gas torch, and I was able to take a 280-degree flame and sublimate tungsten, which has a 10,000-degree Fahrenheit sublimation point. That’s turning it from a solid directly into a gas. Now, this is 280 degrees; it’s barely hot enough to boil water. Yet here I am taking a tungsten rod, which requires 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit to sublimate, and turning it directly into a gas. And I began to realize that water was really something special. And that’s when I started to learn about the anomalous nature of water and its capacity to be a heat sink, and its capacity to expand when it’s frozen, when 99.9% of everything else on Earth contracts when it’s cold and on and on and on. And that’s what led me to the science of understanding the science of water, the anomalies of water, and realizing that I hadn’t been given the whole story at the university and in high school and physics and science classes.

MARTIN: So you would probably say that the inventor’s mind that allows you to think outside of the box allowed you to also… see that the box you were in was just limiting and incorrect, yeah?

CHARLLES: Well, I built my first one of these Brown’s gas generators, and I did this, some of these anomalous things. And I called my cousin up, who’s a PhD in chemistry, and I told him what I’d done. And he said: “Well, you can’t have done that. That’s impossible.”

MARTIN: There.

CHARLES: So let me send you a video. It’s absolutely not impossible. Here I am doing it on camera. And you know, it was hard for his conditioned mind to even accept what he was seeing with his own eyes, even talking to his first cousin that we grew up very, very close.

MARTIN: Okay, so you stripped it apart?

CHARLLES: Yes.

MARTIN: So I guess what we have is that we have most of the products that we find in our marketplace are made with the education that the person has received, through the classic engineering sciency mindset. And therefore, we don’t even know there’s a problem.

CHARLLES: That’s right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

CHARLLES: That’s right. You know, and I found that talking to these classically educated scientists, if you ask them the right questions, they’ll become aware of the problems of their own devices. And they’ll acknowledge them. But you’ve got to, you’ve got to lead them to it, because at first glance, they hold to what their original training was.

Speaking of household water, you know, there was another study that was done at the University of Manchester on shower heads, and the water coming out of showers, and the things they found are just… they’re frightening. A lot of the same things that we’ve talked about. But, you know, skin conditions caused by all these different types of bacteria that live and breathe and breed in the shower head, and then the minerals and then the off-gassing. I mentioned radon off-gassing and being able to contaminate your lungs; the chlorine off-gasses every single time.

And we held it up to the chart, and there was four times the chlorine that was safe to swim, coming out of the tap. And later, I found out that the chlorine, we think of the smell of bleach as being this pungent thing. And later on, I found that chlorine is an odorless gas. And so, they add that chemical to it so we don’t unintentionally breathe it. And so we know that we’re breathing it, we know that there’s a danger. And so you can be breathing this chlorine, and you have no knowledge that it’s there because you can’t smell it when you’re in the shower.

Some people with a sensitive palate can taste it, but smelling it, it’s about impossible. And so, you’re standing there, you have this heated up thing, your pores are wide open, your skin starts accepting it. They found tons of types of fungus that can grow on the scalp, a lot of times, skin and hair conditions that have been diagnosed as dandruff or, you know, eczema or psoriasis, in many cases, have been attributed to fungal infections that people may not realize. One of the biggest sources can be their own showerhead and their water supply coming from the tap.

MARTIN: Yes, indeed! So, where to now? Meaning, we have gizmos and gadgets all over, right? We see water filters, either a pitcher that will remove some chlorine simply, or we have the carbon block that we use. We have the reverse osmosis household filter. We have the water softener that we use to deal with hard water. We have some people with iron in their water, sulfur in their water, and hard water stains all over. I mean, every part of the continent has a different problem, right?

CHARLLES: That’s right. Well, water softeners, the most common form in the United States and Canada are the big saltwater ion exchangers. And you know what a lot of people don’t realize is, in that salt tank, it can become a breeding ground for many different types of bacteria. Legionella, I mentioned it loves saltwater, it can swim right around in that tank and breed. And there are many other types. The other thing is, they’re problematic. I mean, over the course of my 53 years of adult life, I’ve seen hundreds of them at customers’ homes that were broken. And sometimes the house will have not one, not two, but three of those things, and two that are broken and one that’s working because they’re so stinking heavy. There’s two or three hundred pounds of salt in the tank, and when it breaks, they have the new company come out and install a new one, and no one hauls away the old one. So these garages and basements all over North America are full of these broken saltwater systems. And because it’s clogging, it’s scaling. But the other thing is, it’s putting in levels of sodium that really aren’t healthy into the water. Yes, there’s an ion exchange that’s happening, but it’s not the best way to do it, and it can become a breeding ground for bacteria.

And getting into the filtration, there are only a few commonly used types of filtration in North America and even globally. And they principally break down into either granular or porous-based carbon, solid block carbon, paper filters, or synthetic membrane filters that usually are for big chunks. And then you’ve got the reverse osmosis, which is incredibly tiny microscopic pores that water is forced through under pressure, typically with a booster pump to squish it through these tiny little holes. And they all have problems. There are some other media, some of the media that have copper and other things that are in them; that’s sort of a newer one. But primarily, 95% of all the filters that are sold today, it’s just carbon. And you’re dealing with granular activated carbon. And one of the latest, biggest, hottest buzzwords is organic coconut whole charcoal activated carbon filters. But the problem with any porous carbon or granular carbon filter is something called tunneling. And tunneling is where the water works its way down through the media and it creates a channel or a tunnel. And once that channel’s been formed, the water will always follow that path.

MARTIN: Yeah the least resistance, right? It’s the path of least resistance.

CHARLLES: Absolutely! Water follows the path of least resistance, it seeks the low spot and achieves its own level, and those are always principles of water. And so, when you got these tunnels that have formed, it’s not filtering anymore. Even solid block carbon filters can be prone to tunneling. Now, the way carbon works, it has an incredibly vast surface area folding up inside of the carbon itself. It does a really good job of pulling out, especially in multiple carbon filters, of taking out the petrochemical distillates, pulling out the chlorine. If you have enough of them, you can use solid block carbon filters to take out fluoride. But, and a big ‘but’, people forget that carbon, because of the gigantic surface area, is an ideal breeding ground for pathogens, viruses, bacteria, and fungal spores. And so, as they begin to filter out the ‘crap’, you get organic particulate that builds up on the surface area of the carbon, which becomes an ideal food source for the microbiological and fungal and viral pathogens. And then they start to accumulate and feed on the crud that the carbon filter is pulling out.

Now, back 35 years ago when I was 18, and they had these little countertop filters, they were proud to say that they were silver impregnated so that they could not grow bacteria. But that’s virtually gone the way of the dodo bird. Silver has become a lot more expensive. In the last 35 years, the cost of precious metals has skyrocketed. They’re being used more and more in industrial activities for electronics and other things, and their value has increased. And so, they’ve eliminated them from the filter media, by and large. So 99% of your carbon filters that are sold today are just carbon. There’s no copper, no silver, no antibacterial of any kind, let alone antifungal or antiviral. So, you can have a water filter, and it can take out all of your toxic chemicals, and it can then be introducing the bacteria, and the viruses, and the fungus right into the water line on the other side. That’s a huge,

MARTIN: Here we are building up to the big reveal, right?

CHARLLES: Yes, yes.

MARTIN: And the big reveal should be, having an inventor’s mind, having spent 30 years mucking around with these things, and understanding that there is a problem, you inevitably decided to do something with it, right? The carpets, the shirts, the fiber, the paper straw that you drink out of, all kinds of stuff.

CHARLLES: 45% of our water in the United States is contaminated with this. And these are called forever chemicals because you can’t get rid of them once they’re in your body. Or in the soil or any place else. So, this filtration system removes 99.9999% of all the forever chemicals, everything from DDT to PFOS, PFOA. They came out with one that’s supposed to be less toxic called X, which is even more toxic than the one they were replacing it with. Most of them were created by the DuPont company. Well, that’s true.

So, I have a brilliant friend because I’ve been in nanotechnology for the last eight or nine years in water. One of my good friends started a novel filter company. And his goal and his business are directly for the medical industry. He sells water filters to dentists, doctors, and surgeons that have in house surgical theaters. Because the water they use for irrigation of the mouth and wounds and surgery has to be ultra pure. It can’t have bacteria or viruses. It’ll introduce a pathogen into the body that can create infection and cause death.

Many years ago, he engaged the services of a Princeton nanotechnology professor. And he developed the base layer of the filters that I use today. It’s a nanoceramic. And he and I have taken a completely different approach to solving the water filtering conundrum. He said, ‘We’ve been using these conventional porosity based squish the water through a tiny little hole or run it through carbon to get rid of it. We’ve developed a multi-layer solution we call a biodynamic filter, where the base layer is this nanotech with electrical charge. And then each subsequent layer uses electrical charge in a different way. These are permanent charges applied to the layers. And we target different things.

The great thing about it, because we’re not relying on tiny little holes, it’s a very high flow-through system. So we can get a huge amount of water volume treated in a very small package. You see most of these whole house systems and they’re as tall as I am, these giant five-foot-tall tanks to, I mean, I’m 5’10”, but still, they come up to your nose and they’re needing that much to get, this crud out, because it’s gotta run through the tiny little pores and go through all that surface area. Where when you’re using electrical charge, you can grab far more contaminant and use it in a lot smaller space, a lot smaller embodiment. And each layer pulls out different things.

The first thing we go after is the biologicals. We want to physically remove the bacteria, the virus and the fungus. We want to pull the dead carcass out. You may have heard me refer to biofilm during the course of this speech, and biofilm is an accretion, almost like a cementicious accretion. Based on the bodies of dead bacteria and viruses, it builds up, builds up, and builds up and becomes like a cement. Very hard to get rid of. And then you have living bacteria that hide behind this cementicious accretion, in the biofilms themselves. And they lay down different proteins and things to hide and protect themselves from detection and eradication. So, we are actually physically pulling out the bacteria.

We take it out to ten nines, that’s 99.9999999999%. And that’s about as close to 100% as you can get. Each point on the decimal table is a logarithmic increase. So each decimal point takes ten times more than the one before that. We are able to take viruses out to 7 nines, 7 nines is a virostatic. That means 99.999999%, and you’re getting this huge almost complete elimination of virus and bacteria, and of course the fungus is larger than both. It takes all of them out. And that’s the first layer, and after that we target the toxic elements.

We’re looking at the uranium, the cadmium, the manganese. We’re taking out the iron and the sulfurs. But we want to leave the magnesium, we want to leave the calcium, we want to leave some of the trace cobalt and copper, and some of the things we need as trace elements for your body. It’s one of the first filtration schemes that’s designed to take out the bad stuff and leave the healthy minerals that life is dependent on that we need for good health. But then we focus on removing these forever chemicals. And it’s something we just barely touched on.

But you got the PFOS or polyfluoroalkyl substances, and these are the things that make the non-stick coatings on our pans and popcorn bags, and they’re loaded. But we are able to eliminate the bacteria, eliminate the viruses, eliminate the mold spores. We are able to remove the physical carcasses, pull out the toxic elements, pull out the forever chemicals. Our carbon layer is silver-impregnated so we aren’t getting growth in the filter medium itself. And that’s one of the important things, our filters can’t become food for the stuff that we are removing. And then what comes out of there one would think would be perfect water to drink. But, because we’re leaving the calcium and magnesium, you can still have high levels of minerals.

So, we’ve got the beginnings of changing the surface tension of the water. And that’s something we didn’t discuss yet which is clustering. So, a scientist in the 1970’s did a bunch of research on the fact that cellular water, the water inside of our cells, is very different from the rest of water. He found that by breaking down the clusters in water, you’re able to get closer to the cellular water. And this research was then recently resubstantiated by Dr Gerald Pollack, author of the “Four Phases of Water ”, from Washington University. And has been replicated hundreds of times by hundreds of scientists around the world. And now hundreds of papers have been peer-viewed and published on this structured sort of water that can be made by running water through very tiny fibers and tubules. And they call it EZ water and the Fourth Phase water, it’s very similar to cellular water.

We want to start breaking up these water crystals. So as the water exits our filter, we’re running it through a 10,000 gauss magnetic field, which is incredibly powerful. Begins to stretch the bond angle of the water a little bit, break up the clusters, and then we run it past a, start spinning it in a vortex. Now, this is the beginning of erasing the information, but this is still part of our softening technology. So, we’re running it past these catalyst discs. And this was developed in the 1960s actually by the US military, a salt-free softening technology, where we’re running past these catalyst discs. The catalysts don’t get into the water they don’t get used up, but they do change up to 80% of the calcium and magnesium to the crystal form. And in their crystal form, they’re still able to be used by biology, but they don’t accumulate on the sidewalls of the pipes and in your hot water tank and on your sinks and your toilets and your tubs. And so we’ve got this salt-free water softening system that has the dual benefit of beginning to erase that information.

And then the last thing that we do is we run it through what’s called a water structuring device. There we recreate the vortices and the cavitation of nature that you find as water tumbles through a stream and over waterfalls. And as we’re doing it, we’re running it past two biofield imprinting devices. And these are so powerful that it creates actual electricity-free ionization as water passes through the biofield in printing. And there are hundreds of types of frequencies that are imprinted into the water of minerals and organic matrices that make that water mature, Victor Schauberger in healthy water.

And we have documented studies on crops as diverse as corn to mangoes, showing anywhere from 20% to 250% crop yield increases by just putting the structuring unit on the end of an irrigation hose. And you’ll get that benefit when you water your own plants and your own flowers and your own shrubs around your home when you have this installed on your water main. And this system is designed to go on the inlet water side of the house before your hot water tank. So that you’re running filtered water, structured water, softened water throughout every single faucet, every single shower head, every toilet in your home.

And now you’re no longer breathing it. You’re no longer showering in it. You’re no longer bathing in it, and you’re no longer re-polluting the Earth by watering your plants and your shrubs with it every time you turn the water out of your faucet. And that’s the real problem, people try to do these point of use filtration on sinks and their kitchen, and they get their little glass from their little thing and they’re getting it out of their granulated activated carbon or solid carbon. And the fact of the matter is, it’s just a…

MARTIN: Well, I’d say that the major issue of that has been cost, right? When the cost of filters is significant and the cost of a filtration system itself goes really big to do the whole house, then you will just say: “I’m only going to filter the water I drink.” Rather than all the water that I use from my showers, for my garden, for washing my dog, and for flushing my toilet.

CHARLLES: Well, that and a lack of information. A lot of people don’t realize just how bad the problem really is.

MARTIN: Yes.

CHARLLES: I, unfortunately, I’m in a borrowed studio here, and my time is running up. I don’t know what your time is.

MARTIN: Well, we’ve been talking too slow, too rich, too much. Well, let’s see if we can just drive it to some conclusion here in the next two minutes…

CHARLLES: Sure, sure.

MARTIN: Which is, so there we are. The best candidate for this solution is someone who has their own house, because this is not a tiny thing, right? Like you can’t put it in a condo.

CHARLLES: That’s right. And it is a very small form factor for a whole house structuring, filtering, and softening system.

MARTIN: But end to end, it’s going to be yay big, right?

CHARLLES: Yeah, 20 inch tall filters. A couple feet of space, eight inches deep to get it installed.

MARTIN: Doesn’t fit under a sink. You need a basement or someplace.

CHARLLES: No, it goes in wherever your city water main goes, in before your hot water tank or your tankless heater. And it can be installed typically by a plumber. But if you are an adventurous homeowner, it’s not very difficult to install the system. Today, we’ve got these ingenious new fittings called SharkBite. It’s almost impossible to find the old-fashioned copper fittings that you would sweat with a torch anymore because everyone’s plumbing with these push-and-click fittings. So, you can have a copper fitting, and you just push it onto one side; it goes onto a copper pipe, and on the other side, it’ll go onto a PVC pipe, and no glue, no sweat, no mess. It’s just like kindergartners can do it. But if you’re not so inclined and you’re less brave, then a plumber can typically install this in a couple of hours.

MARTIN: All right. So what’s the frequency of filter changes on this?

CHARLLES: For municipal water, it’s just one filter change a year. They’re relatively inexpensive, a few hundred dollars per year to have perfectly clean water. If you’re on a well system, we recommend that you actually send us a water report, and we’ll design a custom solution along with the frequency of changes that are needed. Usually, it’s only twice a year, but we want to make sure if you have something particularly nasty in your well water, that we give you a system that’s custom designed to handle that for you. And it usually doesn’t increase the cost. You might have to add another section.

MARTIN: Awesome. Well, we will come up with a picture to include somewhere here along the way.

CHARLLES: We have some very exciting things coming beyond that. We’re going to have a whole house on demand. We’re going to have hand ozonated water. Right after the filter, we’ll have a unit that actually uses electrolysis to generate ozone. And you can hit a button on your phone and have ozone water come out of your taps. We’ll have the same thing for molecular hydrogen on demand. And we didn’t even touch the base that I’ve created non-toxic chemical-free swimming pool systems and bathing systems that are being used by doctors and hospitals. And all sorts of things. But this isn’t the only thing that we’ve ever developed. But it’s certainly something that every single person who has a body and a house needs.

MARTIN: All right. That, I think, holds it together for us. We will probably have to bring you in one more time to tell us when it’s ready. And maybe, just maybe, people will start writing in to us, asking: “Tell me more about this Schauberger story.” Or, we haven’t even started digging into the Tesla story and other bits.

CHARLLES: No, no. I’m available any time. I enjoy it. You’re a great conversationalist. We had a great fun our first talk.

MARTIN: All right. So we’re going to do more of this. So for now, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast. And Charles Bohdy, our water filter man. We will have this device in the shopping cart. It’s not inexpensive. It’s for the homeowner who is ready to have a life free of toxins and rich in water with full information, as God intended. And clustering that allows full cellular hydration without any fuss. Every drop throughout the entire system.

CHARLLES: Absolutely.

MARTIN: Charlles, thank you very much for your time. We’ll connect again.

CHARLLES: Thank you, Martin. It’s a true pleasure, as always.

MARTIN: Thank you for listening. This is Life-Enthusiast.com. Martin Pytela. If you need to call, it’s 866-543-3388. Thank you for being here today.

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Podcast 471: 2024 Predictions

Join Martin and his long-term collaborator Scott to wrap up the year 2023 and discuss their annual predictions for this upcoming year. Let’s find out what this new year is about to bring…

Pluto will make its final visitation back into Capricorn to complete its work on Religions, Politics, Power, Banks, Business, Government, Manufacturers, and Officials, between September 3 and November 20, 2024, just in time for the US Elections on Nov 5. Expect the unexpected.

After that the full attention will be given to technology, the internet, space travel, astrology and the human collective, the areas ruled by Aquarius.

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MARTIN: Hello everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast and today with me, my long, long term collaborator Scott Patton. Scott, welcome to the show.

SCOTT: Thank you Martin. Happy to be here. Good to see you again. Merry Christmas everybody.

MARTIN: This is the annual Martin and Scott. Let’s review the year behind us. And let’s make some predictions for the year ahead of us. Let’s try. I’m feeling somewhat somber at this stage because we are really in the last four weeks of Pluto in Capricorn.

SCOTT: Yay!

MARTIN: Yay! Hey, listen to what’s coming. It’s gonna be really interesting. But anyway, we’ll get to that.

SCOTT: Can’t be worse. Famous last words, right?

MARTIN: Yeah. My year has been quite challenging personally, in multiple ways. Like, so many things have just pushed on my buttons in so many ways. How about you?

SCOTT: Um.

MARTIN: Not so much?

SCOTT: No, not so much, actually. When you said this was the last four weeks of Pluto, wherever it is.

MARTIN: Capricorn.

SCOTT: I was thinking, what popped in my head was, thank goodness, because it does feel like the old paradigms are sort of crumbling apart. Being in Canada and being Canadian, it just seems like Justin Trudeau has done some awful, awful things in the last few years. And it just feels like everything around him is crumbling, like nobody really believes him anymore. And I shouldn’t say nobody, because there’s definitely a group that is never going to change. But it just feels like we’re getting close to the end of The Dark Night.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. He is definitely going to be facing the consequences of whatever. As you sew, that’s what you’ll reap. And when you sew distrust and contempt and entitlement, I don’t know what all he has, He represents so well the spoiled brat and entitled people.

SCOTT: Yes.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: Yeah. And I really feel like their time is coming to an end.

MARTIN: Well, let’s just define: this theme being astrology. Pluto is a transformer. Whatever it touches, it transforms. But not in a nice way, it leaves behind ashes from which the new crop will grow.

SCOTT: Yeah. And that’s the way I see it, like in Canada, is like we’ve had these massive wildfires that have destroyed huge masses of land. And of course, the ash is now on the ground and fertilizing.

MARTIN: Yep. There’s new forest. There’s a new forest rising right on the floor of the burnt one.

SCOTT: That’s right. And that, I think, is the same with Canadian society. He’s burnt it to the ground and people don’t trust and even the judges are like you’re guilty of all these different things that are just poor morals. Right? Poor ethics. And hopefully, from there we have a regrowth as well.

MARTIN: Yeah. For sure. The revisiting, right? We were dealing with cultural superstructures in Capricorn. Religious, right? The people who run churches and how we think of religion and look at all the things that have come up from below, how the powerful people treat everyone, especially children. Right. All this immorality of the people in power.

SCOTT: Yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: All of that is in the light now, right? Nobody that is paying attention trusts these people anymore. Right.

SCOTT: Yeah. And we’re seeing that in our wars where before it was, oh, we’re behind all these different groups that were going to war and now we’re seeing, I think a fraction would be the better way to put it. Where it’s like, you guys are just sending all this money so it gets laundered and back into your pocket somehow.

MARTIN: Oh yeah. We would call it the culture of supremacy. Right? The entitled people who are somehow better than the rest. The 1% somehow being able to suck all the resources onto them or toward themselves and get away with it. Well, that’s about to change.

SCOTT: Yes. Big time.

MARTIN: I’ll tell you why. Okay. Well, let me just say it this way. When Pluto comes into Aquarius, it’s bringing these transformative energies into information technology, into dealing with data, dealing with science and systems of power. These are the structures, right? So Aquarius as such, is concerned with the collective. People together. And this is going to go from starting January 21st, so we’re four weeks from the day we’re recording it. And it’s going to run until 2044, 20 years. So this is going to be a 20 year burn. Well to illustrate, last time Pluto was in Aquarius was 1778 to 1798.

SCOTT: Wow.

MARTIN: Think, Bastille Day in France. Think American Revolution, think Industrial Revolution took off completely, right? Like the 1790s was the beginning of the steam engine coming in and completely changing everything. Like we used to have an agrarian society.

SCOTT: Yes.

MARTIN: Right. Like before 1780, you had,

SCOTT: Farmers.

MARTIN: Well, first of all, all the, I don’t know what you call them. The landowners, the people who you’d call highborn, I don’t know. Do you have a word for it?

SCOTT: Lords. The lords and ladies.

MARTIN: You had the lords, right? They had villages and people on it, and everybody worked for them. And they were born into wealth.

MARTIN: Right. Well, and then comes the Industrial Revolution. And the agrarian order of things,

SCOTT: Totally changes. Yeah. Because you had, you needed the people on the land because there was no mass agricultural production. And then it changed to tractors and combines and all this stuff. So instead of having, talking to my aunts and uncles, they said, oh, the countryside was full of people because,

MARTIN: Because it was manual labor.

SCOTT: It was manual. And then all of a sudden you had tractors and you needed one person to do 20 fields instead of 200. And it just totally changed and became empty.

MARTIN: So we used to have, we used to have 90% of the population employed in the raising of the food. And then it went down to 30% about 100 years later. And now, which is 200 years later, it’s down to 2 or 3% of the population is involved in growing food in an industrialized society. So expect this revolution to take place now in manufacturing.

SCOTT: Well, we have this rise of AI. I think it was sort of fermenting for a long, long time. And then the technology in terms of the power of computers got to a certain level and then the programming got to a certain level. And now it’s in the beginnings because we just can’t imagine, just like you were saying, ten years before the Industrial Revolution, did anyone imagine tractors?

MARTIN: Only 100 years later. Well, it started with the steam engine. Right. So they had steam-powered threshers and then they had,

SCOTT: And locomotion. Right?

MARTIN: Yeah. The railway.

SCOTT: The horses used to carry everything across the country. You had these trains that would carry it across the country. Didn’t need rest, didn’t need hay, didn’t poop. So, we’re in the IT world, on the internet, we’re at that point where it’s not hard to imagine. And in fact, we’re kind of there already where you just talk to your computer. Right? I dictate to my computer far more now than I did even a year ago, and I’m moving more towards that. And with AI, we can just see this huge potential and with no idea what it’ll actually look like when we get there. Right? Is it going to be Skynet or is it going to be just Jetsons? You know, the Jetsons family?

MARTIN: Yes, right. Well, and so for that, I bring you the French Revolution, right. In which year was that? 1789. Which was right in the middle of the 20 year run. When, I mean the French, Marie Antoinette.

SCOTT: Let them eat cake.

MARTIN: Yeah, let them eat cake. If there’s not enough bread, let them eat cake. Well, so this sort of thinking, right? The 99% will likely rise. So the people who are currently enjoying these phenomenal benefits of this field being tilted toward them. Like you have these one-percenters, the rich families, the Rockefeller, Carnegie and Rothschild.

SCOTT: The Queens.

MARTIN: Well, those too. And the Vatican and the current structure of power as it exists, I expect that it will not survive the next 20 years.

SCOTT: Interesting. Well, and you know when you brought up Marie Antoinette, you reminded me of Prime Minister Trudeau of Canada, who basically and famously said: “Should we tolerate these people?” And these people being people that disagreed with him.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. He wishes everyone to have human rights and right of expression except those that disagree with him.

SCOTT: Right, right. And you know, he is this century’s Marie Antoinette.

MARTIN: Yes he is.

SCOTT: We had all these truckers and all these other people that showed,

MARTIN: Showed him how, Yeah, yeah. Go ahead.

SCOTT: Yeah. I mean, it was nonviolent. And I think that’s one of the things that is really interesting to me is this ruling class that you’ve described so well, it knows what to do with violent protesters. It does not know what to do with passive or nonviolent protesters, ala Gandhi. And I could never understand that. Right? Because I would look at what happened in India, and these Indians would just stand there and the British would beat them. And there was never any violence until finally the British gave up and left because they couldn’t deal with it. And this trucker protest was incredibly nonviolent and even and the elite tried to incite violence. They trampled on this poor little old handicapped lady in a wheelchair.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah with a horse.

SCOTT: Someone went to protect her, and it became this symbol of the evil of the government. And they didn’t know what to do about it. Right. And so it’s just really interesting to me that violence begets violence, right? Peace begets peace. You reap what you sew, you sew love, you get love. And the people that are full of hate and think other people are just like, non-human. I’ll put it that way. Whether regardless of color now it has nothing to do with color. Used to be the color. Now it’s like them and us, and if you don’t do what we say, then you’re them. And you should be, you know, hung.

MARTIN: Well, I would say it this way, the power of the slave is vested in his willingness to lay down tools.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Right? I mean, this is the power of the strike. The main changes of the 20th century came when, during the Industrial Revolution, workers decided to get together and said: “No. We strike.” You don’t get to eat, right? These one percenters or whoever entitled people are, who have five houses and security detail and endless whatever. They all depend on the people who work for them, delivering the service.

SCOTT: Right. And when they stop then they just have the same problem everybody else does. Right.

MARTIN: So that’s what was likely to come. I would say the dismantling of social hierarchies is one of the themes.

SCOTT: We’ve seen that in the business world because the business world used to be a very steep pyramid. You had the president at the top, and then you had all these layers of supervision. And then at the bottom, you had the people that actually did all the work. And it has become over the last 20 years, flatter and flatter and flatter and flatter.

MARTIN: Yeah. The pool of secretaries has gone away because you just said it. You’re talking to your computer. You don’t have a secretary.

SCOTT: Yeah. And you don’t need as many people to, you don’t need as many people to manage other people as you used to as well. Because you can now communicate via email to a hundred people or a thousand people where before you needed to tell your supervisor, your first level supervisor to your second level, to your third level, to your fourth level. And we saw that in the grocery world, by the way. Like, there used to be seven divisions, in Safeway they had seven divisions in Western Canada. Each one had its own controller, accounting manager, assistant accounting manager, accounting team. Now they have one, right? So it used to be this big and now it’s like this. It’s the same with management. You used to need to have a store manager. But then there were districts and they had district managers and then they had divisions and division managers. And the whole thing had a manager. And so all of that has shrunk and the organization has become flatter and flatter. Not so much in government.

MARTIN: And so, this is a really important point you’re bringing up, because I personally believe that representative democracy has completely outlived its purpose. In the following,

SCOTT: There’s a radical thought. Let’s hear more.

MARTIN: Yeah. In the following manner. Money in politics allows you to fund the reelection of a representative. So because you have a representative, a person that is elected to speak on your behalf, you think that you have democracy, you think that you have a voice there. But in fact, that voice has been purchased by money. And so that voice is not really speaking for you. It’s speaking for the money that had helped that voice to be elected and brought into the body of decisions of politics, right? So that’s the concept. Representative democracy is supposed to represent me, but it doesn’t represent me. It only represents those who have financed that person to be there.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So, we now have the technology which is called blockchain. That allows us to track any voice, any decision, any vote completely to its completion. And so we can now make decisions and vote on things that we are interested in or involved in. So I can easily visualize a system by which we have meritocracy. Rather than democracy. Meritocracy means that people who are actually competent in doing something as opposed to elected to be doing something, doing what needs to be done.

SCOTT: I would say that’s the opposite of what we have right now, because it seems like the people without merit are the ones making a lot of decisions, particularly over the last three years, based totally on how they can feather their nest, if I can put it that way.

MARTIN: That’s exactly what I’m talking about. And meritocracy is what I expect will replace this current system.

SCOTT: Boy, there’s going to be a lot of people fighting tooth and nail to make sure that doesn’t happen, which is where Pluto comes in, right?

MARTIN: Yeah. The incumbent, as in the one who is currently at the trough is always going to resist the change. I mean, even in technology, right? A company that currently is enjoying the benefits and the spoils of having the, I don’t know what’s the invention that’s currently popular is going to defend its territory.

SCOTT: This is really interesting what you’re talking about of this massive change that Pluto is bringing in because one of the changes occurring in the pop culture arena is Superman and Mickey Mouse are about to become public domain.

MARTIN: Oh, okay.

SCOTT: Yeah. And of course, what they say is that the version of Superman in the comics right now is copywritten by DC comics. But the version in Superman Number one in 1939, or whenever it was that it came out is not. So you can’t really do a story about today’s Superman, but you can do stories about the 1939 Superman. He could just leap over tall buildings. He couldn’t fly out into space and that sort of thing.

MARTIN: Yes.

SCOTT: And then Mickey Mouse, I was just shocked because I never thought Disney would ever, but it was an article I was reading, both of those. And I’m sure that Captain America and there’s a whole pile of other people that are about to enter the public domain. And you see it already with like, Frankenstein and Thor and those types of characters. Anyway, it’s just really interesting that all of a sudden you could have ten Superman comics on the stand, only one of which is published by DC comics, and you could have a movie about Mickey Mouse that is not by Disney. Which is just, so there’s this massive social change because at the same time, with AI, you don’t need a half billion dollar studio to make a movie. They’re not great at this point, but the technology is such that you can see in the next few years that I’ll be able to sit down and plot out my story and then give it to AI and then edit it and make all the little changes. And the next thing you know, in a couple hours, I could very easily have a movie every bit as good as Pixar’s.

MARTIN: True. True. There is a movement in computer programming called open source.

SCOTT: Yes.

MARTIN: And the conversation was at Google, where they were trying to figure out the AI and their market advantage. And what they found was that open source was beating them hands down. And open source is essentially people working together just for the heck of it. And so for example, there is a new movement around a cyber coin or crypto coin, new currency and around communication. And it’s called qortal, q o r t a l. Look it up. Qortal is phenomenal in the sense that it’s true, peer-to-peer, true liberation. Nobody owns you. No centralized power to rule over you. And the code itself is in the public domain. So in the end, all the public domain stuff will win because it’s not based on hierarchical. Instead it’s based on openness.

SCOTT: Right. That’s interesting you bring that up because that was a big conversation 20 years ago when Microsoft was first starting out. Before it kind of became dominant, what was happening is exactly like you were describing, people had these computers but they didn’t have any programs. They were trying to figure out how to do the programs. And what would happen is, and I’ll use the names of companies that we know, but they probably weren’t that involved in it. But the engineer at IBM would go on GitHub and he would start programming some sort of database sort of thing, and then the engineer at Microsoft would get on there and he would make his changes. And they started all working together because they didn’t need to do it for the thing they were creating to be a product to be sold. They were doing it because they needed it for their business. So it’s kind of like the accountant, right? He’s got to figure out these numbers and everything else, but he can’t add. But the guy over there, he can add but he can’t figure out the numbers. And then just expand this to hundreds and hundreds of companies. So we needed something and I’m being paid to make it. But instead of just me sitting by myself and doing it, you had this open source community that was all contributing, not because they wanted to sell it, which is what we think of today, but because their company needed it.

SCOTT: Right? So there was this whole collaborative thing going on, and it was when Microsoft came out with Word and they were selling it, and this community was up in arms like, no, you shouldn’t be selling it. It should be free for everybody to use, because that’s what we’re doing here. And not saying that Microsoft had anything to do with that. It probably didn’t. And over the last 20 years, Microsoft won. You know, all of these companies were making the programs and selling the programs. And these open source people kind of, they didn’t disappear because Linux and all the other types of programs were all part of that world, but they kind of quietened down like there was an open source Word type program. There was an open source Excel type program, but it was never popular because Microsoft with its,

MARTIN: Marketing power.

SCOTT: Marketing power. And the fact that it ran the computers and everything else, you would use Word because it was Microsoft and everything else. But I can see this all starting to crumble because I don’t use Word anymore.

MARTIN: Yeah. Let me try and read this line to you. The structures of old and the purchase of the elite will be eyed with fresh contempt and the good for a few of us modality of capitalism will no longer suffice.

SCOTT: Beautiful. Yeah.

MARTIN: So you know, you could call it the Christian mode, as in “What Would Jesus Do?” Right?

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: He was, well, I don’t know if he ever was, but he is said to have been very kind to people. Right? So that’s what’s coming. The old predatory capitalism is about to be tested in a very, very serious way.

SCOTT: And when you said that, what flew through my mind was, Jesus at the temple overturning tables, which would not be considered particularly kind, but as a representative of what we would now call the elite, absolutely fits the story.

MARTIN: Yeah. So that’s what I’m expecting is the following: Aquarius rules electricity, technology, renewables.

MARTIN: So the tech as we know it is about to change dramatically, and it’s going to start flowing rather than into the pockets of the few, into the pockets of the many. So I would even expect that the order of labor is going to change. It’s possible that my grandchildren are going to not have to work in the sense of how we saw it. Because most of everything can be done with automated technology.

SCOTT: Or robotics. We’ve seen that in the building of cars.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah.

SCOTT: So what happens then, Martin, if we don’t have this thing that we’re so used to, called work. I guess there’s two paths, right? One is self-fulfillment, self-actualization. I am an amazing artist, but because I had to work as a plumber, I never had an opportunity to explore those talents. And the other side is people that are just bored and they do drugs and video games, I guess, they just totally disconnect.

MARTIN: Yeah they are destructive in terrible ways towards themselves. Right?

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: I have not figured them out because there’s just so much opportunity in this world to do something useful.

SCOTT: Mhm.

MARTIN: I remember watching a video documentary from Haiti after they had a terrible earthquake there and a lot of destruction, and I was watching young, healthy looking men, 20 something year olds sitting around on the ruins waiting for someone to hire them and pay them money. As if they couldn’t just simply take wheelbarrows and shovels and start fixing the mess.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: The hours and days will go by all the same, whether you sit there waiting for someone to hire you, or whether you just simply self-actualize and do stuff. This is probably going to get sorted out somehow, I don’t know how. It’s possible that most people who want to be self-destructive will self-destruct.

SCOTT: Yeah, well, and the other thing that can happen is, the family unit has been severely tested.

MARTIN: Oh. Damaged.

SCOTT: Before if mom didn’t have to work and be distracted by all work, she’d be home. She’d be watching the kids. And if they’re teenagers and the lawn is not mowed, she’d be grabbing them by the ear: “Get out there and get that done!” And I think if we have this contraction of,

MARTIN: Need for labor.

SCOTT: Yeah. We can have a proper family unit where people, I mean, even going back before that, the peasants in the field. Right? There was the father, the field was right there. He didn’t drive 40 minutes to go to a field. He was right in the area. And the kids aren’t working, he’d be like, get to work. However he did that probably was not pleasant, but the kids knew they got to go get the eggs and they got to pull the carrots and they got to do their thing. And it was just the way it was. Right. So in my travels, what I’ve noticed is, it was just like a couple of weeks ago. Well, it would have been in Colombia. I’m watching this three year old, and the three year old is sitting on the sidewalk or in the yard playing with something, like, it’s not an iPhone, it’s not an iPad, it’s not electronic.

SCOTT: And it’s just like contently there, being there like no, no, like mommy, mommy, none of this crying is going on or anything for a significant period of time. And then I think of kids in the Western world. And if you take the iPad away from them, they cry until you give it back. Right? Or it’s like, I’m bored, you’ve got to entertain me. And this kid was just, like, totally entertaining themselves. Happy, as content as could be, right? And not needing constant supervision. And I think that’s another thing that sort of happened in our society is we’re so stressed out and so busy and everything else, we just look for some easy way. And technology has given us that with these electronic games and devices. And so we’ve abdicated our parental responsibilities. And if this whole thing changes and reverses, I can see that coming back. Whereas instead of having mobs of teenagers running rampant and doing graffiti and beating up other people, you’ve got the mums and the dads saying, no, that’s not right, and smarten up and do this and do that. And then all of a sudden it totally, it’s the pendulum swinging from anarchy back to,

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: To the family unit.

MARTIN: Teamwork, perhaps?

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: You know, what’s interesting is like, we started out as a tribe. We are a team animal, right? We depend on one another. We are interdependent in our nature. We always have some that are good at something and not good at something else. Right? Like, I mean, just to the division of labor between genders. Men are good at upper body strength and running and chasing, and women are better at patience and gathering and doing things that tend to be repetitive. It’s just the way the genetics are evolving, right? Anyway, so we used to have the tribe, then we had the village, then we had the family unit. It used to be three generations, right? Grandfathers, or grandparents, parents and children under one roof. And I expect that something of the sort will come back. I don’t know how it’s going to get organized or what will happen. Because of course, we’re no longer forced together through economics. But I think we will come together because we want to.

SCOTT: Right. Right. Absolutely. Yeah.

MARTIN: So I expect that. There’s something interesting about generations. And I think it’s somewhat related back to Pluto, because for example, Pluto was in Leo in the years 1939 to 1958.

SCOTT: Hmm.

MARTIN: So this is the baby boomers, pre-war and baby boomers, right? Like there were fewer people born between 39 and 45. And then from 45 to 58, there was just a large number of people being born.

SCOTT: Me.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Right. And so that was Pluto in Leo. And it brings a certain mindset, perhaps entitlement or at least some self sense of greatness, being willing to step up and contribute. And then the next generation, what comes after Leo?

MARTIN: Virgo. That would have been from 58 to about 71 and then 71 to 83. That’s Gen X, right? That’s Libra. So they are I guess willing to put an end to disparities.

MARTIN: Because Libra people are always all about justice and stuff like that.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: And then the next generation are people born between 83 and 95. That’s Pluto in Scorpio. And then there’s the Gen Z 95 to 2009. So they are, well, they’re now starting to get into power, right? That’s Pluto in Sagittarius. And that’s extreme ideals. Spirituality and also conspiratorial thinking.

SCOTT: Hmm.

MARTIN: So that’s the distrust of authority in a complete sense.

SCOTT: Particularly when the authority has proven to be untrustworthy.

MARTIN: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Of course. Power corrupts. There’s a problem with that.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: All I have to say is, Epstein, whatever his name.

SCOTT: Didn’t kill himself.

MARTIN: Well, that too, he did not kill himself. But what’s interesting about his client list. How is it possible that his client list has not been released to the public? I mean, it has been released in the underworld. Like if you go looking for it, you’ll find it. But how is it that it’s not actually on the news?

SCOTT: Right. Well, it made the news that it’s going to be released in 2024.

MARTIN: And here comes Pluto into Aquarius saying, oh yes, yes we will. And no you don’t.

SCOTT: And of course the people talking about it are, well, I wonder what sort of massive war or distraction will occur at the same time, they’re trying to release the list to get people to look the other way.

MARTIN: Yeah, I guess I would expect that the alien story will get floated. This is another one that I expect to come through. I really expect that during the next 20 years, the aliens and their technology will get released. I mean, this is what should be said, right? The American corporations, the military industrial complex, the Lockheed Martin and Grumman and Boeing and whatever else, those large corporations that operate in a dual way. Right. They have the public side and they have the sequestered undisclosed side. Well, that’s an interesting sidebar. I actually expect that the undisclosed sequestered side of all the economy that exists will become known, and will become revealed. But anyway.

MARTIN: It’s known, if you look for it, that these companies have replicated technology that is said to have come from out there, from off Earth, non-terrestrial technology, and one of them is known as the Electrogravitic propulsion system, which is there is a way to tap the energy of the space in such way that you can balance gravity in such a way that an object becomes weightless, in the sense that you can control very easily where you point it.

SCOTT: And where it goes.

MARTIN: Up, down. But also 360 degrees any direction you want. And because you’re maintaining the momentum of gravity within that object separate from the other, you can do accelerations that would otherwise kill all occupants.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Meaning this, a pilot of a fighter jet can stand maybe seven Gs for a short amount of time. Just say that you’re going to do a dive and a pull up, right? Like if you do three Gs in a car, it’s maximum. If you do seven Gs, you lose your consciousness.

SCOTT: Right, right. But if you don’t, if you don’t experience the Gs but you’re moving that fast, then no problem.

MARTIN: Yeah, you can change direction. So this is what has been puzzling the people who observe this saying, well, these things pull off spatial changes that would require a 20 G force. It should make ground beef hamburger out of everything inside.

SCOTT: Hmm. Well, that’ll be exciting.

MARTIN: Well, not only don’t we need the petroleum fuel. We don’t need roads. Go figure that.

SCOTT: Yeah. Talk about a change in your paradigm, right?

MARTIN: So when you mentioned Jetsons, that was the vision. That is exactly what they were doing. And in those years, in fact, it was the 1950s when they were doing the replication technology. It has been available all this time since the 1950s. So when in the early 60s, you saw the Jetsons cartoons, people moving around in these vehicles, that is a reality. That’s not a cartoon.

SCOTT: Very cool. Yeah. Well, then let’s just hope we don’t also get the Flintstones.

MARTIN: Okay. I don’t understand. Describe what you mean.

SCOTT: Well the Flintstones were the Stone age. And he had a car and he had to run to get the car moving.

MARTIN: Oh, it was the pedal. Pedal Rock wheels. Yeah, that was a comedy.

MARTIN: Alright. So anyway, that’s my view of what I think is coming. I think again, the thing for me is Bastille Day. It was ten years in, from the beginning. I don’t know how long it’s going to take for us, but Bastille Day was where the peasants got pissed off, picked up their pitchforks and marched on the palace.

SCOTT: And that was the end of it.

MARTIN: And that was the end of it. Unfortunately, at the end of the Age of Aquarius, well, the Pluto in Aquarius back then in 1798. They went right back. Napoleon came to power, and the next 15 years they had the Napoleonic rules and Napoleonic Wars. And they did just terribly.

SCOTT: Right. You’re reminding me of Cromwell and King Charles. And we have King Charles the Third now. And they got rid of the monarchy for, I don’t know, 20 years (in 1649 to 1660). And then they brought Charles the second back and didn’t change.

MARTIN: Right. So it is possible that we will gain a lot. In 20 years, I’ll be 91. I would love to see that.

MARTIN: I don’t know if I will love seeing the next 20, which is when I’m 110.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: If I am 110, we’ll see.

SCOTT: Yeah. We’ll see.

MARTIN: I don’t know if I’ll see 91, but.

SCOTT: The next 20 years will be very interesting for sure.

MARTIN: Yeah. So I’m looking forward to that. And so I’m here recording this with the optimism of not knowing how it’s going to play out, but with the hope that it’s going to play out in a good way. Because the “love thy neighbor as you would love yourself”, the “what would Jesus do?” I really want that to come clearly through. In this new world of AI that’s coming upon us, the new world of money as you know it, that’s going to burn up. I promise you, money’s going to burn up as we know it. There’s $40 trillion that the Federal Reserve has printed up to push into the world economy. That’s about to blow up. I mean, that whole model is unsustainable.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: So I can see changes in how money is. I can see changes in how the internet is. Manufacturing. Food production. I can say it this way, every industry that I have ever looked into in any seriousness I have found to be corrupt to the core, operating on false principles, operating on corrupted ideals, operating on a tilted field that is feeding few rather than many. At the expense of the consumer, the owners of the technology are extracting wealth without regard for the people who are being extracted.

SCOTT: Right. Yeah. And you’re seeing that change occur in Africa actually. There’s been five coups and they’ve thrown out presidents that are in most of these cases, beholden to France. Interestingly, we keep talking about Bastille Day.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: And they’re saying, why are we sending all of our riches to France and to Europe and to Belgium? And we’re poor and we have all this wealth and the people are standing with the rebels and the new government and kicking them out. So we’re seeing that transformation. And if there’s any place where you’ve got massive poverty, child labor and that sort of thing going on.

SCOTT: (Where?) you’re wealthy, right? Like it’s unbelievable. So hopefully that will continue.

MARTIN: Well, starting January 21st, 2024. Watch your back. Get together. Form communities, form societies. Get together with people. Think about morals. What is moral? Well, I said it. I’ll say it again. What would Jesus do?

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Think hard.

SCOTT: Think hard and have a Merry Christmas.

MARTIN: Thank you. Scott, this has been an interesting conversation.

SCOTT: My pleasure. Martin. Great to be here.

MARTIN: This is Martin Pytela and Scott Patton for Life Enthusiast podcast. All the best to you. Life-enthusiast.com and by phone (866) 543-3388.

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Podcast 470: Fresh Catch Fish

In this episode, we are delighted to have Jorgé Ureña back on the podcast. As the CEO and founder of two sustainable agricultural companies, namely UHTCO and the recently established Peruvian Harvest Fresh Catch Fish, he continues to make a significant impact. The products from these companies cater to individuals who prioritize their health, as they are free from undesirable ingredients and consist only of high-quality fish paired with thoughtfully chosen seasonings.

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MARTIN: Hello everyone this is Martin Pytela Life Enthusiast podcast. And with me today Jorgé Ureña, or as the Canadians and Americans would probably do George Urena.

JORGE: Yeah.

MARTIN: 20 years later you almost forget what your real name is right?

JORGE: Well, it’s always been George, and it’s just in Canada the pronunciation is a little bit different though. But yeah my name is pronounced in Spanish as Jorgé, okay? It’s quite difficult, probably for an English-speaking person, but George is fine. I mean, my friends at school call me George all the time.

MARTIN: You more than I are involved in feeding the world, feeding the world in a quality way.

JORGE: For 20 years, we’ve been involved in bringing the best of Peru to the world. We started with Maca, Camu Camu, the vitamin C product from the fruit. Yacon, and grains, like quinoa, kiwicha, and kaniwa. We got into Cacao Chocolate as well. I mean healthy chocolate with no sugar. So every day we have new creations, and we incorporate quite a few ingredients we work with in new developments. We proudly say that we excel in innovation, and today we’re going to be talking about one of these products, which is totally off—I mean, the supplement world, in a way. Okay, we’re talking about healthy ready to eat food. But it’s not a supplement.

MARTIN: So, well, let’s describe it, right? It starts way back, 2,000 years ago. We have Hippocrates, the “let thy food be thy medicine and let thy medicine be thy food,” right? Alright, right there at the beginning, and it happens so often with me saying, “You don’t have a supplement problem; you have a fork problem. You are making yourself sick with what you’re eating.”

JORGE: It is true, yeah, yeah. Most of the supplements that we have in the market, through different brands or different categories of products, they’re basically 100% food. It’s just, they’re called supplements because they’re in a dosage presentation, so it’s different, like a capsule, for example, or tablet. But in fact, they’re all 100% food. And our products are mainly single ingredients, so there’s no formulation, except for one or two that we have. but basically, it’s just food.

MARTIN: So let’s get into this. So what do we have today? It’s called Fresh Catch.

JORGE: Yeah, so as maybe many of your customers know, we’ve been involved in a food category under the brand Peruvian Harvest. A few years back, we developed a new line of canned fish, and these are very unique products. We aim to provide the typical Peruvian dishes. So, if you ever go to Peru and try some of these sauces, let’s say they’re linked with the canned fish that we have. These are all typical, meaning, this is what people normally eat in Peru. Of course, we tweak the recipe a little bit to make it more North American, so people can get used to it. And I’m going to explain little by little, one by one what I’m talking about.

MARTIN: So, let’s get to it this way. Canned food, especially canned fish, provides a phenomenal amount of nutrients. Number one, of course, is the protein, it’s there. But the second thing is, of course, there are some very valuable nutrients in there, mainly minerals and fatty acids. I mean, fish are known for the EPA and DHA, which are super important. We find that deficiency of these essential fatty acids leads to all kinds of inflammatory, degenerative conditions. In skin health, muscle health, tissue health, muscle volume, flexibility in the arteries, and whatnot. All of that is directly related to the availability of essential fatty acids.

JORGE: Yep. That is correct, yes. So, what we have here we’re presenting is a line of mackerel from the Pacific Ocean. The variety is called Scomber Japonicus Peruvianus. So, it is a very specific variety of mackerel that comes from this precise location in Peru, south of the equator where abundant cold water lies. Now, I have to explain a little bit about our location and about the cold water. Peru is actually south of the equator.

MARTIN: I just want to say one more thing before we get into the specifics. In general, it’s important for people to understand that canned fish is actually quite well preserved. The nutrients stay viable for a good long time. And it’s one of the most fantastic ways of feeding yourself in a situation that’s not fun. Like, for example, if you have no refrigeration. If you have no light. If you have no heat. If you have, I don’t know, your earthquake preparedness kit. Or whatever preparedness situation you want to have. You want to have this on hand. I always keep 24 cans of fish in my house because I want to be able to sustain myself in a decent way in case of trouble. That’s me, right? Of course, one more thing. I’m the metabolic typing advisor. I am of the understanding how genetics and nutrition intersect. And about 45% of people on the planet are thyroid dominant, which means that they’re mostly coastal. Coastal dominance. And all of us are well adapted through our ancestors to eating fish or fish source food. So the importance, I’m just trying to frame it. And this is not just some child’s play. I’m trying to bring to the world, to our audience, something that is important and should be both healthy and also safe and also important for our sustenance.

JORGE: Mm-hmm. Correct.

MARTIN: Anyway, back to the cold water. Cold water is really important. Let’s talk about geography.

JORGE: Okay. So, I mean, here’s the thing. Peru was supposed to be a tropical country. We’re just below the equator line. So if you go north of the equator line, you will reach Ecuador, which is the country. And the waters are quite warm or hot. For instance, in Ecuador you will find a rich variety of tuna, for example. You can source the tuna fish from warm or hot waters. Now, the reason why the ocean in Peru is cold is because we have what we call the Humboldt current. And that current brings cold water from Antarctica all the way up to the equator.

MARTIN: Yeah. It goes up along the coast, up the Chilean coast.

JORGE: Yeah. Exactly. And here’s the thing, when we have the El Niño effect, that goes the other way. So, hot water goes down, brings more humidity, and the temperature of the water rises significantly. Humidity increases, we have a lot of rain and then Peru becomes tropical for a short period of time. And that’s El Niño. Which actually causes a big problem for agriculture because you get rain where you’re not supposed to get rain. So the whole climate changes. Now, most of the time, the waters are cold. And that’s where we source the mackerel, which is very rich and abundant on the coast of Peru. Another key factor to understand is that Peru is one of the few countries, I think there’s only maybe three or four, there might be more—that have a 200-mile sea border.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah. The typical is three. Some have 12.

JORGE: Yeah. And that allows us to do deep-sea fishing. So, that means the fishermen go all the way to the 200-mile border and that’s where the mackerel is caught and brought over. For some reason, the fish that we have in Peru, the variety is incredible. We have not just mackerel, but we have different kinds of species. It is very rich, clean, pristine, and obviously if it’s caught properly, you’re going to get a good source of material to work with. And that’s what we have here. We also have another one, which you’ll see it in the documents I sent you. One has nothing to do with the Pacific Ocean. It’s called Paiche. And that’s another one that’s very unique. Paiche grows in the Amazon River. The concept behind this line of products is basically ready to eat. This is our slogan, by the way: ‘ready to eat, ready to share, and ready to enjoy.’ Because the product is really, you can open the box, you can open the can, and it’s ready to eat straight from the can. You can also put the content of the can in a bowl of pasta or rice and make a poke bowl, for example. You can also use it as what we call the Peruvian seafood tapas. I guess your audience may be familiar with that. What tapas are, and it’s more like Spanish appetizers, like canned food. Or they call it finger foods.

MARTIN: Tiny servings.

JORGE: Correct. And you put crackers around, and then you serve a little bit of this product. So, in many ways you can enjoy this product. So it’s not just, it’s a complete meal. And the portions are really big. That’s another thing that you’re going to realize when you get them. And I think you’ve got the products already.

MARTIN: I do. I have had the opportunity to taste several of them. Yeah, for one thing, the can is substantial. So I managed to eat the whole thing in one sitting. But it’s lovely. I could have probably shared it with one other person, and it would still be okay. But I liked it so much, I ate the whole thing.

JORGE: So when we develop the recipes, we try to incorporate some of the flavors that we’re used to in Peru. More or less, that’s what we have here on this line of products. We took care of very minor details. For example, usually when you get a can of fish, not all of them, but of course, there are many that include some additives. And they usually even clean the fish with chlorine water.

MARTIN: Well, yeah, they want to get rid of the smell of the fish.

JORGE: Sometimes. Okay. So we don’t. So we use even on the cleaning and the manufacturing, we use spring water. Believe it or not.

MARTIN: I’m looking at the can of the Paiche and it says with asparagus, artichokes and peppers. So that alone is going to have its own taste. So when you’re saying, well, all you need is you can just dump the can on a bed of rice and you will have something of a meal, especially when you combine it with maybe some salad or something like that.

JORGE: Even we have Smoked Mackerel. And the Paiche as well is smoked. We use a Pallo Diablo, which is a special wood that burns very slowly. And we smoke it over eight hours.

MARTIN: Very nice.

JORGE: So let me just go one by one.

MARTIN: Please let’s have it. So let’s talk about the paiche just to be sure.

JORGE: The Paiche. Okay. So probably will be a good idea to, I don’t know if you can google on your computer and just type paiche. P-A-I-C-H-E.

MARTIN: Well, sure. And you’re doing it as well.

JORGE: Just get the images. Because it is an almost extinct variety of fish.

MARTIN: I mean, you’re writing here that it’s a cultivated fish that you don’t go to the wild to catch it. You actually use the cultivated and the farmed. It looks to me like something of a monster. It reminds me of an Anaconda.

JORGE: Yeah, correct. And it’s huge. I think it’s over 10 feet, if I remember correctly.

MARTIN: 14 feet.

JORGE: 14. There you go. And so it is naturally farmed, which means that we normally cut the river in two sections. So we allow the fish to live in this section we’re talking about kilometers of the river. And as I mentioned, these fish love Camu Camu. Initially it grows inland. And then when the rain comes, floods the river and it becomes off land submerged in water and the Camu Camu that falls, that’s normally eaten by the fish. It’s incredible, really. So this is the actual can. And in order to use the fish for the preparation, we need to obtain a certificate. It’s called CITES. And CITES is a certificate that ensures that we are not using too much. To the point that we can exhaust the availability.

MARTIN: Yeah. Managed harvest.

JORGE: Yeah, exactly.

MARTIN: Great. So it’s sustainable.

JORGE: It is sustainable for sure. Yes.

MARTIN: Okay. What does it taste like? I haven’t tried this.

JORGE: I would say in this case it will be white fish.

MARTIN: Okay. Is it kind of neutral or mild?

JORGE: It’s very neutral, but it has a very unique taste. So I would say, for example, it could be more like a cross between a cod and halibut.

MARTIN: Right.

JORGE: It’s delicious.

MARTIN: Wild, delicious. All right. That’s great.

JORGE: I mean, the taste is amazing in combination with the asparagus, artichokes and peppers. It tastes really good. The other thing that we are using with these line of products is we have extra virgin olive oil.

MARTIN: I really appreciate that.

JORGE: In all of them. And this is 100% Peruvian olive oil, which comes from the South of Peru. Tacna. That’s the province that produces the oil. We decided not to go with an Italian version or a Spanish version because we wanted to keep it Peruvian. That’s the concept.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: And to help, obviously the farmers that they grow the olives in the South and they have this industry going, it is delicious, by the way.

MARTIN: I have no doubt that it’s fine.

JORGE: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

MARTIN: The ones that I have tasted.

JORGE: Okay. I’m glad you like it.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay.

JORGE: So that’s for the Paiche and this is a very unique fish. We have a limited production. Maybe. I don’t know if we still have stocks or not. Maybe very limited, but we’ll have some available obviously for you guys as well.

MARTIN: Okay. So what else do you have?

JORGE: So the next one, which I could probably talk about is the one that you mentioned at the beginning of our conversation, which is the purple olive.

MARTIN: Right on.

JORGE: Mackerel.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: So these.

MARTIN: Look up purple olive.

JORGE: So this is a story. There’s a story behind the purple olives. So what happened is, all these are native from the Mediterranean. So that means, Spain, Croatia,

MARTIN: Greece.

JORGE: Italy, Greece. Okay. And the Spanish when they conquered Peru, they brought many things, among them horses and olives. So when they planted the green olives in Peru, the green olives became purple.

MARTIN: Probably because of the soil.

JORGE: It’s because of the soil. I guess it has to do with the location of where Peru is located. The sunlight, I don’t know. Many aspects. But the soil is the primary factor. Because as you know, we also have purple Maca. And we have purple potatoes.

MARTIN: And corn.

JORGE: And you know, many, purple. That’s another one. So a new variety of olives was created when they planted these olives in Peru. And it became a staple for many dishes in Peru. It was called botija. And what botija means is just like where you store the olives.

MARTIN: Okay.

JORGE: Okay. So I don’t know. It’s just a traditional name that just was carried over for many years. And that’s how we know them. Botija olives. So they’re not Kalamata. They’re very big, thick, juicy, and 100% purple. I mean, it will stain your hands, your clothes, everything. It’s just really, really deep purple.

MARTIN: Okay.

JORGE: So, what we’ve done is we created a sauce. Which is just a combination of a little bit of garlic, onions, the botija olives, extra virgin olive oil, Maras pink salt. And then we blend it to obtain a thick, nice sauce. So there’s no milk or dairy products or thickeners or anything like that. All these products are gluten free, by the way. And so it is delicious. I don’t know if you tried this one or not.

MARTIN: No, I didn’t have that.

JORGE: Okay. But this is probably one of the flavors that most people like. And I was doing quite a few presentations on the fish, at just a chain of stores here in Ontario called Nature’s Emporium. And oh my God. I mean, people love it a lot. Because not so many people are inclined to eat olives. Because of the taste. But in this case, it was amazing. They love it.

JORGE: I’m trying to describe it the best way I can.

MARTIN: Oh, just get a can and try one.

JORGE: There you go.

MARTIN: Decide for yourself.

JORGE: Okay. So, in this case, what we have are filets of mackerel. Okay. Because you have two different ways of cutting the mackerel. I mean, you can cut it vertical.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: And then you will have, uh.

MARTIN: They look like a steak.

JORGE: We call it medallions.

MARTIN: Yeah. It has the spine in the middle and the body of the fish is all around it.

JORGE: That is correct. Exactly. Or filets. If you just go with the,

MARTIN: You cut along the spine. You end up with these flat pieces.

JORGE: Yeah. The next one that we achieved was the,

MARTIN: This is the one with the smoked mackerel.

JORGE: These are medallions, by the way.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay.

MARTIN: Can you read the name of it?

JORGE: Red. It’s a red pepper marinade.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Pepper and onion. I had that last night.

JORGE: Okay. This is another of the flavors that people love a lot.

MARTIN: It looked to me like it was a tomato because it was red.

JORGE: True. And here’s the innovative part. When you go to Peru and you order, the name of this dish is called Escabeche. Don’t ask me where this comes from. There’s no meaning to the word itself, but Escabeche is a marinade. But the way it is served in Peru is with big, thick pieces of onion, and also red pepper. Big, big chunks. So the problem with that was that if we presented the fish as the Escabeche traditionally done in Peru, many, many people would see it. I mean, that’s so nice. So we converted that into a sauce. So we made a sauce out of the onions and the red peppers. And we actually marinated the fish in the sauce for a period of time. So all the flavor is in there when you eat the fish. Same thing, we use extra virgin olive oil, a little bit of garlic as well to get that touch and something that you will see on the, and I think I sent you the nutritional profiles for every product. And now these are the new ones. So that includes the EPA, DHA and vitamin D as well in the product. The nutritional profile is amazing on all of them.

MARTIN: Yes. I actually had this Mackerel Medallion with the sauce last night with a salad.

JORGE: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: My salad was rice with a bunch of other ingredients like cucumber, onion, olive, and so on. A full salad with this fish on top. It was marvelous!

JORGE: Yep. True story on these products, I remember when my mother was alive. She didn’t like mackerel, believe it or not. She always liked the white fish, not the better version because you know, the darker fish is actually better for the omegas and all that.

MARTIN: Well. And also one important point, mackerel is fairly high in purine. So all people who are on the hunter side of genetics,

JORGE: Mm-hmm

MARTIN: They really benefit from having the cold, dark fish, the group that we’re discussing would be a sardine, herring, mackerel, salmon probably would go into that group.

JORGE: Yeah, maybe. Correct.

MARTIN: Right.

JORGE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Like that.

JORGE: So the next one will be the sprouted quinoa.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. Right.

JORGE: Okay. So here’s an example of combining a product that we carry as well under Peruvian harvest. We have a sprouted quinoa product, like grain and powder. Both products are sold under the Peruvian harvest line. So we incorporated the quinoa with the fish, and it’s really good. So that is actually a meal by itself.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: You have the combination in there already. Right?

MARTIN: Yes.

JORGE: And the sprouted quinoa, why are we using that? Because you see when you sprout the quinoa, you activate the plant, making it more absorbable. And all the nutrients, the protein, the amino acids. And everything that comes with the quinoa, will be better absorbed if it’s from a sprouted source. We combine it just with olive oil, a touch of garlic and I think there are filets as well, in this case.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: Very good. Very good products.

MARTIN: Yup. I had this one and it was lovely. I was thinking, yeah, I could just take, I don’t know, a slice of nice rye bread or something like that and put it on top.

JORGE: Yup

MARTIN: And run with that.

JORGE: Yup

MARTIN: It was awesome.

JORGE: Perfect. And the one that I think you loved, is this one here.

MARTIN: Yeah. This was the smoked mackerel.

JORGE: Smoked mackerel. I mean, listen, there’s not so many people that like smoked. You have different flavors if you like smoked products. That’s the best really.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: It’s really unique.

MARTIN: You know, it reminded me of course, of the taste of my childhood in Europe. I grew up in Europe and we actually bought smoked mackerel, the European mackerel, which is a fish.

JORGE: Oh yeah.

MARTIN: About yay big. [shows length of fish with his hands on screen]

JORGE: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: And we would buy the whole fish and it would arrive wrapped in a newspaper.

JORGE: Oh yeah.

MARTIN: It was because it was dripping with grease. It’s a greasy fish.

JORGE: Yeah. Yeah.

MARTIN: And so you would just lay the newspaper on the table and you would just rip it apart and eat it right off the body.

JORGE: True. I’ve been in Europe as well. I think Portugal. They have quite a bit of fish there. So that’s it for the line.

MARTIN: Let’s count it. So we have smoked, pepper sauce, olive sauce.

JORGE: Mm-hmm

MARTIN: And the paiche with the spices.

JORGE: Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay.

JORGE: I mean, honestly, there are five. Yes. As I said, The Paiche is limited. Maybe I still have some stock on that, but it is very unique. And the funny side of it is just that this fish eats one of the products that we sell a lot on the market. Camu Camu, the vitamin C.

MARTIN: Right on.

JORGE: That’s why this fish is so rich in nutrients as well. Yeah.

MARTIN: Fantastic. So I think we’re going to sell either a stack of several or one of each, probably four packs and eight packs. Sounds like we won’t be able to get The Paiche.

JORGE: Well, I still have a few, so I can send you some anyway.

MARTIN: All right.

JORGE: Okay. The products are highly demanded. We just introduced the products in the United States to a few customers as well. And we’ve been around sampling the products as well. And also new developments because this is just a start. What’s coming next? We have mackerel in cilantro sauce. Which again, that’s another typical dish or sauce used in Peru. That particular one, for example, is from the south of Italy. The cilantro sauce. Peruvians were influenced by Italian immigrants from the south.

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: For instance, you know the minestrone?

MARTIN: Yeah.

JORGE: Usually when you have it in North America, it will be red. In Peru, the minestrone is green. They use a lot of cilantro, basil. It’s Spanish, it’s a different flavor.

MARTIN: It’s great.

JORGE: Yeah.

MARTIN: I guess what we should say is, this is not a down market. This is a premium product, right?

JORGE: It is 100%. Yes. And people will appreciate the fact that they’re getting something well done, rich in nutrients, and healthy. As you mentioned at the beginning, this is something that you want to have for those difficult times, let’s say. If it happens.

MARTIN: Well, thank you very much for taking the time to introduce it. We will do our best to share it with the world and tell them that Peruvian fish can sustain us.

JORGE: Yes. And let me know if you need any further information. I can send that by email and then you can actually send it to your customers as well.

MARTIN: You bet. Thank you very much. This is George Urena from UHTCO and Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast, life-enthusiast.com. And you can also call us at 866-543-3388. And you will see the links to the products in the show notes. Thank you very much.

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Podcast 469: Exsula Superfoods Success Story

Exsula Superfoods are crafted exclusively from whole foods, offering a comprehensive array of vitamins and minerals, along with essential amino acids, enzymes, antioxidants, and more. Tailored to meet diverse needs, each blend comprises wild-grown, organic, and non-GMO ingredients. Processed at low temperatures to preserve enzymes and nutrients. On today’s episode, Martin is joined by Bob Peterson, a seasoned 24-year veteran of Exsula Superfoods, who graciously unfolds his personal health journey. Bob highlights the remarkable impact that Exsula Superfoods products have had on his health, productivity, longevity, and overall well-being.

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MARTIN: Hi, this is Martin Pytela from Life Enthusiast. And today with me is Bob Peterson, one of our long, long, long time customers. Hello Bob, welcome.

BOB: All right, hi, how are you doing Martin? Good.

MARTIN: I’m doing fine. Considering the years I’ve been around, I’m doing just fine. Bob, how long has it been since you started buying the Exsula products?

BOB: I was trying to figure that out. I think it’s been 24 years.

MARTIN: 1999, 1998? Like that?

BOB: Yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: Okay.

BOB: Maybe it’s been 24 years. I think that’s what it was. That’s what I figured. Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay, that’s awesome. So I guess it’s, well, I don’t want to put words in your mouth. Do you remember how the world was for you before or during or after you started using the products?

BOB: Yeah, I remember a friend of mine who just passed away from cancer, pancreatic cancer at a very early age. The lightbulb went off in my head and because my parents were also not doing really well. So I decided that I was not going to go down those roads. And I didn’t want to end up like my friend or my parents. So, I decided that I was going to do everything in my power to make sure that it didn’t happen to me. I was talking to a lady who’s involved in another business with me and she told me about the products. I think the product she introduced me to first started with a Q, though the name escapes me now. It was a while back. She shared some stuff we were making together.

MARTIN: I think you’re thinking of Quantum.

BOB: Right, Right. It was like an Iridesca light, that product. I really liked it. I started with that and then got intrigued by other products from Exsula. So, one by one, I began purchasing them. I’ve used almost all, if not all, of them. I can’t recall if I’ve used every single one, but I’ve definitely used most of their products.

MARTIN: So what do you use these days?

BOB: Well, I use Iridesca, Strata-Flora, Ultimate Q10, Lecithin, I use AuraMax, I use Ellagiplex, I use the New Liver formula, the Heart Studies Formula, I use Coral Calcium, and ORMUS. Oh, and AuraGreens—I use that one too.

MARTIN: I remember even seeing an order recently.

BOB: The Nova Scotia Dulse Powder, I probably use about 20 products maybe.

MARTIN: That’s really good because you really now know them all right?

BOB: I just feel jazzed every time I take the products. I take so many different things, I’m just like I’m a real nut I guess but I make a smoothie in the morning with about 45 different products.

MARTIN: It’s quite the concoction. We call it the dog’s breakfast, right?

BOB: Yeah, and I got to tell you, about 20 minutes after having it, I just feel incredibly good. It’s like a surge of energy, I feel like taking a run around the block. I feel fantastic, like a million dollars. I’ve got friends who are on their way out. They’re in wheelchairs, starting down that whole entourage medical establishment with walkers, canes, and you know, it’s disheartening. You know for a fact they’re headed down the wrong road.

MARTIN: Yeah, it is kind of difficult. My biggest challenge with friends or acquaintances has been that, even if I tell them what I do, they don’t ask a question. And even if I try to tell them that I would know how to help them, because I know stuff, they don’t care to know.

BOB: You know but people are just starting to get more proactive. I have another friend who’s a couple of years older than I am, and he’s really starting to become enamored. When he looks at me and I tell him things, he’s beginning to understand. He’s calling me all the time now. What should I do about this? I have a headache. He has all sorts of health concerns and for many years, he has relied on about six different doctors as his go-to people. But now, I’m becoming his go-to person.

MARTIN: So let’s talk a bit more about the specifics. So you have no complaints that you know of like health-wise?

BOB: The only nagging, silly, dumb problem I have is with my big toe on my right foot, and I think it might be gout. But then again, I don’t understand how it could be.

MARTIN: I could tell you a story about that. There are two ways to get gout: one is with too much red meat. The other is with too many carbohydrates or starch.

BOB: I see.

MARTIN: So depends which you might be.

BOB: It would have to be the latter because I don’t eat meat. I don’t even purposely eat meat, let’s put it that way.

MARTIN: So it would be insulin, when you eat too much starchy food you raise insulin too high. It does two things. It puts excess fat on your body, and it causes gouty pain in the joints.

BOB: I see, So what would that be? What would that look like as far as food?

MARTIN: What specific foods would be causing that?

BOB: Yeah.

MARTIN: Potatoes, rice, sweet potatoes, grains, wheat, bread.

BOB: The only thing that falls into that category which I eat is a multi-grain gluten-free bread that I have.

MARTIN: Yeah, and that will probably be hard to give up.

BOB: Well, one of the things I really love in the middle of the day, strangely enough, is having an egg sandwich.

MARTIN: You could call it an omelet and skip the bread, have it with some veggies, salad on the side. Or maybe veggies inside the omelet. Maybe, well, it would be an experiment you’d have to try for about a month. Right. So, well, that’s not a huge complaint as far as I know because it doesn’t really stop you from walking about or doing your work.

BOB: No, no. My work schedule is so erratic. Some days I’ll work 10 or 12 hours, and some days I don’t work at all. On an average day, I work about half a day.

MARTIN: Well, so, okay, so minimal health complaints, you probably are not on any pharmaceuticals, I guess, right?

BOB: No, I don’t take anything. I don’t even take aspirin. I don’t take anything.

MARTIN: That’s awesome, right? It’s so unexpected. Whenever I go to a medical appointment, the first question out of their mouth is, ‘What drugs are you taking?’ It’s not ‘Do you take any?’ No, it’s ‘Which ones are you taking?

BOB: I go to people’s houses, and some of these people have an entire tray of probably a hundred different drugs they take, you know?

MARTIN: The funny thing is, of course, it’s coming through them into the toilet and down into the,

BOB: Yeah, I mean, you can’t criticize anybody because they are my customers.

MARTIN: I wouldn’t criticize them even if they weren’t, it’s their choices. So, I guess you can truly call yourself the product of the product itself, because with 25 or 24 years behind you, that’s pretty much what has built you now.

BOB: Yeah, I feel great. I mean, I don’t have any complaints. It’s not summer now, but in the summertime, I ride my bike five days a week, probably about a 45-mile bike ride. Then during the winter months, we’re in the beginning of winter now.

MARTIN: Yeah, there’s not much more one could say other than to have a smoothie every day, make a drink. I mean, it’s quite simple to do, right?

BOB: Very much so. There are days when I have my smoothie late enough in the day. For instance, if there’s an emergency or I have to leave here early, I usually wolf down the Heart Studies formula along with Ultimate Q10, and then I add a vitamin C product, Camu Camu, to it before leaving. If I don’t have my superfoods until maybe around two o’clock, I might even skip dinner. I mean, that might be it for the day.

MARTIN: Yeah, it’s really sustainable.

BOB: It really is. You can be totally, incredibly hungry and have your smoothie and that really fills you up. It really does.

MARTIN: So do you mix it with anything or just straight with water?

BOB: I just mix it with water. I use a water structuring unit actually. I have two of them. Then I pass it through this other unit from Natural Action Technologies. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with it.

MARTIN: Oh yeah, absolutely. Clayton Nolte, that’s who invented it.

BOB: Yeah, I put it through that. And then I have this wand called the Halo. I don’t know if you have ever heard of Halo

MARTIN: Oh yeah, absolutely.

Bob: I structure it with that. and then I have this Itera… what’s it called?

Martin: Oh yeah, the Itera wand.

BOB: I use that to magnetize the water.

MARTIN: Yeah, I have one of those here too. It’s an awesome tool.

BOB: I have that water waiting for me cold in the refrigerator. So what I’ll do is I take eight ounces of green tea and I put that in the cup. Then I take four ounces of tart cherry juice and then I add about 16 ounces of the water. And then I put all the superfoods right in there.

MARTIN: So, it’s quite a tall drink.

BOB: It’s a quart.

MARTIN: I mean I do something similar. I make 32 ounce smoothies.

BOB: Yeah, you know what, I used to use juice, but I think juice tends to make me heavy. There are a lot of calories.

MARTIN: Well the tart cherry juice is really good.

BOB: Well, I used to use pure apple juice or pure, if you make a tall glass of apple juice, that’s like having 20 apples or something.

MARTIN: That’s a lot of sugar. That’s just way too much energy.

BOB: Yeah, so I’ve learned to enjoy it with less, a bit more moderation.

MARTIN: Well, it’s great. Do you have any messages to the world?

BOB: Well, people have to take the time to educate themselves. The reason I like for instance, the Iridesca, is that Jevari, when he made that product, he took a cross-section of the body, cross-section by cross-section. He said: “What does the heart need? What does the liver need? What do the kidneys need? What does your brain need? What do your muscles need?”So, he took all of that and came up with the best of the best from every source and concocted that product. It’s a magnificent product. I mean, there’s nothing. I don’t think there’s anything you can put in your body that can even beat it. There’s just nothing that can beat that. You just can’t go wrong.

MARTIN: You know, we keep testing and no, there’s nothing like it out there. And most companies, most manufacturers don’t really feel like putting together 350 ingredients. It’s quite tedious.

BOB: Right. You just can’t. And let’s say you had a really sloppy day, maybe you ate some junk that you shouldn’t have eaten. You went to someone’s house, they served something that wasn’t that great, but you ate it because you didn’t want to be discourteous. Maybe it wasn’t a good eating day. But with the Iridesca, at least you have the foundation covered. So, your body thanks you for giving it a slice of the best. You’re not cheating yourself out of anything. That’s the way it goes.

MARTIN: I agree. That is the most complete. And that is probably not going to get easily beaten, because it’s hard to make.

BOB: Yeah, if you took ingredient by ingredient and tried to duplicate it, you’d probably spend three or 400 hundred dollars on just one item.

MARTIN: I did that. I went to a health food store and I started shopping for the components. And when you put everything that’s in it in your shopping cart, you end up spending about $500 on the $150 bottle of Iridesca.

BOB: Yeah. It’s all there. It’s easy. It mixes really well with whatever you want to mix it with. You can put it in a shaker cup, and it mixes almost instantaneously. Yeah, I put it in a mixer cup I got from Dr. Brown’s, a baby formula mixer. But I like it. I know it’s kind of odd, but I like it.

MARTIN: Like a fork on a stick that spins, right?

BOB: Yeah. And sometimes what I’ll do is I’ll mix it and I’ll just bring it with me, and it just sits in my car waiting for me when I want to have it, and here it is.

MARTIN: Yeah, the thing is good for about two days after mixing anyway, so it’s quite alright.

BOB: Right. If you put it in the refrigerator or something, it probably holds real well.

MARTIN: Yes. Awesome. Well, Bob, thank you so very much for sharing yourself, your time, and your wisdom. It’s been one with time. A lot of testing, right?

BOB: Yeah, sure is.

MARTIN: Thank you, Bob. This is Martin at Life Enthusiast, alongside Bob Peterson, a 24-year veteran of Exsula Superfoods. Thank you.

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Podcast 468: Master Peace

Master Peace is a powerful combination of Zeolite and nutrient-rich structured Marine Plasma. It contains 96 organic minerals in an ideal balance which help support physical and vibrational cleansing on a cellular level. This product incorporates Bio-Photonics, Terahertz, Magnetism, and Scalar/Aether energy, creating a sustained high-consciousness field within and around the bottle.

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MARTIN: Hi everybody. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. And today I am coming to you with a message that’s a bit out of my ordinary. Having tested the product, I have to tell you that this is exciting me. I’m, you know, now in my 40th year of this research, so not a lot of stuff takes me out of my chair. This stuff does. And I want to tell you that with the gravity of what that means, at least in my life. If you have any faith in what I have to say, then heed this. This is important. The product is called Master Peace. We’ll be talking today to CEO Matt Hazen and to Teri Lynn, his marketing associate. We will be explaining what this is all about. The first thing I want to tell you is this. When I first took it in my mouth and it’s always the story, the first cut is the deepest. It really let me know that this is vibrationally of the highest grade. I don’t know how else to put it, other than it’s the sensation you get when you put something really important in your body. And with that, I’d like to ask Matt Hazen, can you explain to us just what is in that product that makes it so special?

MATT: Absolutely, absolutely. So thank you for having me here today, Martin. Well, really everything that goes into this formula is very special and unique. About four years ago… I had led a long life of being very aware of health and healing and whatnot, and was always open minded to things. And about four years ago, when I got more deeper into a holistic lifestyle, what I did was look around and thought to myself, with so many people being completely unhealthy and everybody having their own ways of trying to be healthy, it became clear that there was something big missing. I have older kids and now I have younger kids, so I have kids that are 27 down to 18. And then I started having kids again, and I refused to leave this world where it was at and I thought, something’s missing here. There’s some piece of this puzzle that is happening in our modern day time that wasn’t getting addressed. And from there I thought,someone’s got to get it done. Someone’s got to come up with something that is going to make the difference. And that’s really about where the inspiration with the intention and the energy that went into creating this formula. Really, we’re dealing with modern day environmental pollutants and toxins that are unique.

MATT: They’re nanometer sized. And where before, in our world, with the forever chemicals and heavy metals that we were dealing with, the regular detoxes and cleanses were helping people and they just weren’t anymore. And we have a new day and age that we have nanometer sized heavy metals and forever chemicals and different poisons. And these toxins are so small, unlike 30 years ago and 40 years ago, they’re now small enough that they’re going inside of our cells. And it’s a whole new level of disruption. And so with Master Peace what we wanted to do was specifically address that. And that’s what we sought out to do with the help of, so it’s modern day nano problems that we wanted to find a modern day nano solution for. And that’s what we went after. This formula, it’s like any other good holistic formula. It’s all about: how good is it getting the bad stuff out and what is it replacing it with. And Master Peace is unlike anything that’s out there. It’s amazing, and the results that people are getting are very astounding and mind blowing every day. We are literally helping people to feel their best version again.

MARTIN: Okay, so to unpack what’s going on here, let’s just get into the specifics. My story started indeed with mercury poisoning, heavy metals, and I did get it out of them, out of my body with the help of Zeolite. And we are talking about Zeolite here. There are versions of it. We are developing, we are finding newer, better, stronger, cleaner. Sometimes it’s not as important what is ingested but what is absorbed. At least that’s the rule in nutrition. You may only need to know that what needs to be moved gets moved. Zeolite, specifically clinoptilolite is good at wrapping itself around heavy metal molecules, binding them and taking them out of the body safely. It’s based on the principle of electropositive versus electronegative. The heavy metals are electropositive, and the Zeolite maintains an electro-negative posture both internally and externally. So when it grabs something, it looks innocent to the human body, to the immune system. And so it’s allowed to flow through and get out of you using the natural pathways, which is not what happens with heavy metals when they get into your body. And the way they get there, first of all, injections. Those are famous. Up to 1980 or so, most vaccinations were contaminated with, not contaminated, intentionally made with mercury, known as thimerosal. Later replaced with aluminum, that’s another story. But even to this day, multivalent flu shots are still made with mercury.

MARTIN: So that’s pathway one. Pathway two is food. It’s in seawater. It’s in industrial toxins. If you burn coal, there’s mercury going up in the air. I might be repeating the story or going too wide here, but let me say it this way, it’s throughout the environment and you’re ingesting it. And, strange as it may seem, the body cannot deal with it, and because it cannot deal with it, it hides it and it hides it in places of low circulation, which is bone, cartilage and fat. So sadly, your brain is mainly made of fats too, so it will end up in your brain and it will end up in your bones. So later in your years, when perhaps your pH isn’t as healthy as it was in your early days, these things will get reabsorbed or re-released into your body. That’s how it ends up that a lot of older people in the progression of time, osteoporosis days, when the minerals are getting released out of the bones, with it come the toxins. So what I’m trying to paint here is you may have it stored and it hasn’t been released yet. It would be really smart to get into something that’s going to bind it and get it out of your body. But I’m talking too much. I want your story. Tell more.

MATT: No. I like exactly the path you’re going up. About 30 years ago, technology progressed to the way where things like insecticides and pesticides and really industrial processes were trying to make things a lot of times more biodegradable. If we’re talking about pharmaceuticals like you were talking about, they wanted them to become where it metabolized differently, deeper and better. And what ended up happening, our science got it from a micrometer range into a nanometer range. And at that point we get into a whole new level all across the planet and inside of the human body of course. Where the trapped, the heavy metals get stuck inside of our cells, our cell walls have a positive charge on it. And so it sits in there, with an electro positive charge being held in, because it’s going to repel against the wall. What Master Peace has done is used the world’s … In PubMed it is well documented that Zeolite is called the magic binder, the master binder, the magic stone I apologize and master binder. And that’s because it has the strongest negative charge. So with our modern day problems being at the nano level, what we wanted to do was get the Zeolite and our formula down to a nanometer size. But not just that. You want to get it where it’s just small enough, which is about 300 nanometers, so that it will become intracellular capable. But then you want all of the range from there and lower, because you want it to be able to get all the different sizes of toxins and go to all the different deepest recesses of the body to get it.

MATT: What’s really important to point out about Zeolites? Zeolites are amazing. They’ve always been shown to be safe and effective, especially clinoptilolite for the human body in retrieving the heavy metals, but they retrieve it a lot better in the Master Peace formula because of what is 99% of our formula, which is something that’s very close to ORMUS. It has a huge alchemic component to it, or a part to it, and it is very similar to our blood plasma. What science understands as the healthiest substance on Earth, and that is marine plasma. The reason why marine plasma is such a big deal is because our bodies are pleomorphic. They like to transmutate. They’re always working with themselves, with our body. Our bodies work with itself to bring itself back to homeostasis. And so when you are trying to go in there with this case, with Zeolite and get out these things, that in such a small level is inside of the cells, well, then your body is a lot more permeable and a lot more allowing and does that, which is a huge deal. It does that because it has the marine plasma right there with it in Master Peace. And so when your body recognizes that it has this to trade off, it says, heck yes, I’ll get rid of this metal. Look what you’re offering me.

MATT: And this is something that it sounds really simple to explain, but it hasn’t been done before in a formula like this. Where you combined the master binder in Zeolite, there’s other binders in different chelators out there. Humic acid is well known and so forth. But we took the best. Then we put it at the right size to address today’s problems. And then inside of that formula, we gave it the most bioavailable substance we could find, which is loaded with all the minerals that’s inside of your body, essential fatty acids, antioxidants, unmodified RNA, which is huge because RNA, it’s a program. It sends a signal to your body to all the neat and great things our bodies are meant to do. It says, hey, it’s time. And so we combine the best of all this to make this Master Peace. And flat out, I believe that results matter and the results that we’re seeing. You just haven’t seen results like this before, and it’s a great time to have such a worthy solution come against such a big problem that we’re in, because we are truly in a worldwide health crisis. And the things that used to work so great, the supplements that we took that made all the difference in the world aren’t getting it done anymore. But Master Peace is.

MARTIN: Teri, would you be so good and jump in with a story about how this really works in life?

TERI LYNN: Yeah. If you’re referring to my own testimonial, I can definitely tell that. Is that what you’re referring to?

MARTIN: Sure. Or whatever stories you know. I would like to illustrate what this really feels like in a regular or irregular life. Right. Like the common experience. I mean, my own life was a total disaster. I got infected, injected with mercury in my 20’s, and the next 15 years was an unmitigated disaster. Like it was awful.

TERI LYNN: Yeah, I read your story, your website has your story on there, and we have similar situations, you and I. You had a dental mercury poisoning from your dental work. That’s crazy that they did that many fillings on you at one time by the way. I had all that growing up. But I also had a situation that really wasn’t that long ago about 12 years ago at the most. I had taken a product and I was already into it. I’m a holistic health coach right now, and this is really what my own health issues through my adult years especially, is what got me into a lot of self-study and my certification coaching. So at the time, I was already trying to do whatever I could to be as healthy as I could. And I took a product, and this product was pretty controversial, especially right after my incident. It was supposed to clean water and people were doing super shots of this and they said, well, if it cleans water, it might clean your body too. And it was, I believe it was a chelator of some sort, but later it was touted as possibly having aluminum in the product. And whether that’s true or not, it definitely what I feel happened was it chelated very strongly. And possibly my detox pathways were not open, I wasn’t in the healthiest operating function. And so about two weeks later, I wasn’t really making the connection, but I was starting to get a little brain fog. And, you know, when you’re middle aged, anyway, you’re kind of like, well, I don’t know what’s really going on and I’m not getting enough sleep or something.

TERI LYNN: Well, after about two weeks, I was getting severe brain fog to the point that I couldn’t remember my appointments. I’d be driving on the highway, a freeway that I was very familiar with and I didn’t really know where I was and what exit I was supposed to take, and I’d be crying. And so I realized, I think I’ve just been heavy metal poisoned. And so I went to an expert, he’s actually well known in the world. He’s passed since Walter Crinnion, but he was certainly the best in the United States. And they did a provocation test, EDTA and they identified aluminum. “Yep. You’ve got way too high levels of aluminum.” I think arsenic was the second one and I can’t remember the third one. So I did everything I could. I did all of the things that people are aware of, the chlorella and spirulina and cilantro. And I started just doing all kinds of cleanses and detoxes. And I also took a nano Zeolite product that was kind of new at the time. And they’re still on the market now, very well known one. And I got better to the point where I could function pretty good. I didn’t no longer feel like I had to quit my career because I was actually looking to switch, because I could not think as straight as I needed to think and quickly. My career chosen path that I had from a long time ago is very cognitive heavy, and so I have to be really quick on my feet.

TERI LYNN: And so, you know, I got myself to the point in the last ten years where I’m like, okay, I’m feeling alright. But then I started taking Master Peace. It wasn’t that long ago, it was like the end of spring. And I noticed in two days. Two days I could feel that on the second day things just lifted. It was like a low level kind of mental stress that I was feeling of having to think really hard, remember and recall things that I didn’t realize was causing me so much mental fatigue even. And I noticed my work that I was doing became a lot easier. And so I was just able to recall information quicker. Things became more quick, like I had been at baseline. And for me, that was huge. And so I feel like I am kind of back to my baseline, able to function. And I noticed a lot of the testimonials that we are getting in are kind of similar to that. I don’t know of anyone that had a real bonafide heavy metal poisoning like I did talk about it. But mine was documented and now I’m feeling so much better. Sleep is better. And so we’re seeing the level of … People are talking about the level of consciousness that they feel. Those that are more sensitive to that, it is a lot higher. And I know you have an experience about that too, that I’d love to share on this podcast, because I thought it was so interesting.

MARTIN: Yeah. Since back in 1996 when David Hudson came out with his story of ORMUS, ormes. It starts with white gold. It was later described as trans-platinum group of elements. Gold, rhodium, iridium, osmium, palladium, ruthenium. I don’t know if I said enough of them, but gold, rhodium, and iridium are the most common and important ones. And I have spent a good amount of time concentrating ORMUS. ORMUS is the type of energy state of an element where it appears that it has only two dimensions, not three. It has an infinite surface, but no volume, and it seems to be that it puts itself in cell membranes. And it also appears that all the life plants and animals seek this out. They want it, they thrive on it. They feel healthier. And so do we humans. So I made this by the buckets. I made a lot of this ORMUS stuff. It’s made by concentration. It’s available in volcanic emissions, volcanic soils, but through millennia this thing is washed out through creeks and rivers into the oceans. So it’s richly present in the seas. So the common method of extracting it or concentrating it is to take salt, like Celtic salt or Himalayan salt, or dead Sea salt, some salt. And using this method, we call it the wet method extraction, you concentrate the stuff and when you buy this thing commercially, you’re told to take maybe a teaspoon a day.

MARTIN: Well, I was taking something like 6 or 7 teaspoons a day because, you know, I want to fly with it. And what’s interesting, it created some really interesting effects in my life. You start getting Siddhis, as in like effects where you start reading people’s minds, thoughts, hearing them ahead. Knowing who’s calling before the phone rings, stuff. It started to interfere with my life because I also didn’t feel like being in business anymore. I wanted to pick up a walking stick and an alms bowl and head for the Himalayas to go meditate. So, I ended up making a choice, I had become a householder, and therefore I needed to do what’s asked of me. I had children and a wife and business and whatever. So I said, well, I can’t carry on. So I cut back on ORMUS, but I still remember what it does and how it feels. So I have a lot of the residual effects left in me. So anyway, this is the long way of telling the moment I took Master Peace, it had kicked me the same way as ORMUS kicked me. And so when I asked Matthew, well, what’s here? And he says, well, it’s the plasma from the ocean. And that makes sense because plasma would seek or the living creatures, the plankton, the bloom of the ocean, the ocean itself.

MARTIN: Seawater is the equivalent to the amniotic fluid of the womb from which life arises. Like originally, there was no life on land. It started in the sea. Algae being the most primitive forms of life and going on from there. So I see the ocean and the seawater as the original blueprint of life. And when you look inside of the human body, both the interstitial fluids and the blood are very similar in their makeup to seawater. And there we go back to the plasma from the ocean because we can in fact replace the human plasma with the ocean plasma if needed, as needed. So one more loop, which is, so I took this product and I instantly felt it. And I think it has to do with the fact that the plankton will bloom the strongest where the currents mix. And it will have to be the cold water currents bringing the nutrients and then rising up toward the surface as the oceans circulate. And these blooms happen at specific times of year, at specific locations, when the currents do what they need to do and I think it has to do with the nutrient availability and the sunlight availability. These two things need to meet.

MATT: You know, we vetted every marine plasma place we could find and spoke with them, looked at them, explained that we were going to be using this in a formula that we expected to get out to mankind in a way where, across the planet. And what we found, marine plasma, there’s a lot to it. And it is, it’s a self-making toroidal field. And when you find that with, there’s several things that need to be looked for when you’re harvesting it, but when it’s above the phytoplankton. Then you just get this implosion where it’s structuring itself, it’s bringing in more minerals, and it’s as magical and as healthy in ways that I don’t think that we really fully understand. And that’s really why we’re seeing all the different types of testing results that we’re getting. I don’t know if the listeners are real familiar with crystallography. It’s something that’s been made popular recently by Veda Austin and it basically shows if you tell the water what to express and what to show of itself, it will show you. And it’s amazing because we had crystallography done on Master Peace, and it shows a heart with an ascension ladder and we can make those results available for you, Martin. They’re amazing. So the listeners can get a better idea with the picture. That’s very duplicatable science. And we like to be real data and evidence driven. When we went into this process, of course, we had the highest intention, and intention is everything. It does make a big difference. This product intention was to help raise the consciousness of mankind.

MATT: When you have that, when you’re putting in the energetics that we put into the formula, when you’re doing that and you have the most natural substances that are meant to detox and purify and cleanse as good as anything that’s available on Earth. And we put it all together, and the entire process had this amazing, purest intention to operate on behalf of the highest good for mankind. It’s a true answer to get people to what they should expect when they start taking Master Peace. What we see very consistently. And this is as big of a deal as it gets for me, I’m big about sleep. So if something can improve your sleep quality, it sets you up to have a better day. And you can expect a better deep quality of sleep. You might want to be careful because if you haven’t been dreaming for a while, your dreams are going to kick on again. That means your third eye is clearing off. You’re going to have a lot more vividness. We’ve had world renowned doctors say they’re remote viewing again because of it. I know my dreams are lucid every night. Me and my wife always have the discussion of what our dreams were the previous night. And, when you can wake up more childlike and get your day started easier, when you’re present with people, when you have a natural connection to your environment, to the people that you’re around, when everything seems to be more tolerant of you, but you’re more tolerant of it. The little health things, you know guys, when you have heavy metals, which are not natural in the forms that they’re in inside of our cells, you can just imagine, since we are these biochemical processors that are 99% water molecules, it’s all about our body communicating with itself the right way.

MATT: And what more would disrupt that than heavy metals stuck inside of our cells? And picturing that and thinking what it would do to people, we can realize why we have the disease and the health issues that are rampant in today’s world. And Master Peace gets you ahead of that again. It gives your body the ability to get that junk out of the way so that your body can get back to doing what it likes to do, which is to make itself its best version. And that’s really the magic of Master Peace. You have the best way to make the best binder at the right size, but then you’re offering it up in a solution of marine plasma. So your body becomes very willing to go through this magical transformation, this upgrading process. And then you have the very, very, very best, when the kinesiology test Master Peace, it comes up. We’ve had many world class people now look at it that have made their careers off of muscle testing. And it’s across the board testing out as high as anything that’s available on Earth right now. And that’s how important it is. So if people are looking for that Keystone supplement that is going to address the issues that aren’t being addressed with their other supplements, you found it right here.

TERI LYNN: I’m thinking maybe we can talk a little bit more about the marine plasma that we use in Master Peace. I think it’s important. Because there’s other marine plasmas out there, and I know Quinton has been around for a really long time and really set the foundation for that market. And I know Matthew had looked at Quinton water to use as the marine plasma in our formula, and the marine plasma is 99% of what the formula is. So that’s a really important piece of it. Matthew had looked at a specific marine plasma that was harvested by a man named David. It’s a grassroots company. His company is called Ibiza Y Formentera. And he operates out of Spain. And we interviewed him and it was really interesting all of the information that he gave us. What he does, he goes out himself with his, he says, partner. I know his wife is involved with his business too, but it’s a very small operation, he has one boat. And he goes out and he’s been doing this for decades, and he knows the sea. He’s been healed by it when he was a child, actually. And he goes out and he knows where to look, and he’ll taste the water and he knows if it’s ready. It’s not a matter of just going to this place that he’s got a license for and permission to go, and he’s just going to go at this time this month. He’ll shut down his whole operation all summer if he has to, because that’s not the active time for the phytoplankton and zooplankton.

TERI LYNN: So he harvests it at the right time and at the right areas. And so that’s the marine plasma that we use. It’s a company with high integrity. And the gentleman there, David, he’s just amazing. And so we feel like we have not just the best Zeolite because Matthew has worked with Michael Koh at Kansas State University, mentored under him to get the formula just right at just the right size but also the marine plasma. Marine plasma is probably the best back end. Now, how do we find the best marine plasma? And so we feel like we have the best marine plasma. And then of course we have the energetics, which maybe we can talk about a little bit too. That’s infused into the final formula, even though marine plasma is already structured, already has this great bio availability of all the minerals and nutrients. But then you structure the whole thing, and then it becomes an alchemy, a formula of just this very interesting end result and product that has never been done before. This has never been done. And so the results are coming in now, as we’ve been talking about, of being very different. And I know Martin would love to hear again your testing that you had about your consciousness and how that happened. Maybe that’s what happened to me too. When I started taking it, I didn’t realize it because I was feeling something lift.

MARTIN: I have noticed that since I’ve been taking it, and we do this testing quite regularly, that my level of consciousness has increased by a fairly noticeable margin. Level of consciousness is something you can learn about by reading a book, Power Versus Force by David Hawkins. He is the father of this movement, and what he’s defined is a logarithmic scale by which he compares the consciousness of a bacterium which he gave number one. And Christ consciousness, which he gave 1000 at 999 you can still be in a human body, at 1000 you can’t be in a human body anymore. You have to transcend. And anything above 600 is in a very meditative and high consciousness level, that the level would be 200 for courage, 300 for truth, 400 for science, 500 for love, 540 for unconditional love, 600 for transcending consciousness. And these values average out. So if you have a nation that averages out over 200, they are starting to live in truth. If it’s under 200, they’re still destructive. They’re still hateful and vengeful and just not getting there. And it ebbs and flows up and down. And what’s interesting is that one person of high consciousness, one Aristotle, can outweigh millions of low consciousness people because it’s logarithmic. One person at the high vibration can carry a huge number of the lower vibration. Anyway, the point is I don’t want to really get personal in public, but my level of consciousness has drifted out well into the influential because we check this regularly. It’s most noticeable in the last three weeks since I started using the product.

TERI LYNN: That’s what I wanted to know clearly. Yeah. That’s incredible. And we’re hearing what you’re describing, but you’re giving us the data, now. When you’ve had your consciousness levels checked all this time and continue to do so. So I’m feeling like you are explaining what’s been happening to many, many, most of the people that we’re hearing from. They talk about consciousness and awareness and I feel different too. And it’s hard for me to,

MARTIN: Right. And so it’s possible that this product as we have it is going to help us carry the nation, the society, the community, the family that you, the user, are in through these turbulent times.

TERI LYNN: That’s incredible. That’s just. And Matthew, I mean, that was Matthew’s goal from the very beginning is to do that.

MATT: Yeah. Martin, I love what you are speaking on because the David Hawkins level of consciousness map is absolutely was the go to thing that our muscle testers, Clayton and Jeff with focus life force energy, whenever we were making a decision on what to use such as fulvic acid, marine plasma, bee pollen, Zeolite, humic acid, how the different energetics that was going into it, every single decision, every single, even the price, everything that was put into it was muscle tested as what is going to be on behalf of the highest good for all of humanity as a food and nutritional supplement. And if we wouldn’t have been able to make every decision based on the level of consciousness map and kinesiology testing, we wouldn’t have been able to get anywhere near the end result that we did with this formula.

TERI LYNN: I was going to say, because there’s different levels to this, and I was going to mention. I’m trying to remember, on a physical level, we’ve talked about that a little bit, but I was just going to just iterate a little bit more is that you have that on the physical level. You have the detoxification, the cleansing on a level that’s biological, right. You have the heavy metal, heavy metal bullies and you mentioned that. But there’s more than that. There’s microplastics, there’s the forever chemicals, there’s also mycotoxins, from molds and things. Heavy metals are really what people are having a hard time getting out of their bodies and their cells. So you have that heavy metal bully being pulled out by Zeolites at the right level, at the right range, particle range, because these are nano sized now, they’ve kind of been weaponized and replacing that right away with the marine plasma, which we discussed. So on a biological level it makes sense. And it’s put together very well that way and looking at that level. But then now we’re getting into all of these other higher levels, if you will, of what it’s cleansing out because, you know, holistic health has always been about, is always about the body, the mind and the spirit of the psyche.

TERI LYNN: And so those have to you have to pay attention to all those things. And I think that the mind and body informs the third, the spirituality and the psyche. You have those things that they’re not, they’re not in homeostasis. You can’t get to that. And you’ve just demonstrated that by something you said there about the Hawkins’ chart and how if you get to a thousand, that is ascension. I think you said it. So, I didn’t know that. And so there you go. And so to clean out the body on a physical level is super important. And then we have these other components in this alchemy formula, too. And we don’t talk about the energetics and the structuring of it enough. And that is an important part of the formula, the end result. Matthew does a lot of it’s really on duplicatable what he does, you know, so we have to keep him around as long as possible, Matthew. Because you’re the only one that can do this formula correctly. But talk about the energetics that you put into the end product.

MATT: The formula marine plasma is already structured. Now we structured again with a water vortex magnetizer and then a bio photon infuser, which is an analemma wand. We have the formula on the ground for a period. We through magnets, magnetism, remove all the extra positive polarity out of it so that it’s heavily negative polarity. So it has more of what they call a zeta potential. You know, we seal up the bottles with an iTera wand, and there’s so many things I have to try to go through now. It’s silly, but it’s been proven in science, right? Where you can just put notes on the formula that says “love” and it improves it.

MARTIN: Hey Matthew, you mentioned, for example, that when you’re putting the plastic tamper proof seal on it, that you’re actually using the iTera wand to do that. So you could do that with the ordinary heat gun. But no, you’re using a high consciousness heat gun.

MATT: Absolutely. Because what we feel is that everything adds up. Everything matters. So every last step of the way, when we’re doing everything with this process, it’s, I’m trying to think off the top of my head because we do even more than that. But yes, we keep it charged and structured. The entire process from the very first day and every time it’s made. I’m the only one that is in the area while it’s being made. So I know that I feel welled up with love and joy just because I’ve seen what’s happened now with Master Peace, as it’s taking hold everywhere and what people are experiencing, they’re having better lives because of this. And so when I’m making it, it’s feeding me back what I’m hearing people in the morning talk about when I’m hearing people that have been having seizures all the time, people on strokes that are coming back, people with all types of conditions that they’ve been trying their whole life. They’ve tried everything underneath the sun to get rid of, get better. When I’m being fed that type of feedback and I’m putting it back into the formula, it’s a toroidal field. It’s just getting better and better. We haven’t really changed the formula. We’ve added more Zeolite and marine plasma to the formula. But we haven’t changed any other part of the formula. But for some reason it’s testing out a little higher and a little higher. And I believe it’s because of the effects it’s having and how everything is entangled and works together. And it’s feeding back to us. And you know, the marine plasma is gotten by a guy that he has one boat, like Nikki said.

MATT: But it’s a very nice boat. And he refuses, like with the other marine plasma companies. I don’t want to say names, but they tend to harvest during the summertime, and that is the worst time. He hangs his boat up for four months every year. That is not the time you want to get marine plasma. And he has seven different ways that he goes in there, and he tests it with all of his equipment. And if everything says yes, then he says it still has to pass the taste test. And this is all he’s ever done. And he says usually he doesn’t accept it because he doesn’t do that business to provide for his family, he does that business to help change the world. And so I think that goes into why Master Peace is so good. We have the highest sourced Zeolite that we could find. It is 97% clinoptilolite. That is the highest amount of clinoptilolite that you can get from any Zeolite mine that we’ve come across. And even, we keep on vetting the entire process, everything we do, we check the pure intentions of the team, the people who are helping to make the decisions. As a core team, we’re operating at 990. The people who are doing this testing have the most state-of-the-art technology that they’ve used. They have 13 different research studies Focused Life force Energy to show and verify their seedings. Everything about what goes into this Master Peace product has been the best of the best to help out mankind.

MARTIN: Guess I would say this. We’re so programmed by the current culture to see things in a material and materialistic way. And there’s the struggle between the understanding whether the spiritual is primary or whether the physical is primary. And there’s a whole lot of people who say, there’s nothing. You’re born, you die and it’s dark, it’s over. And then, of course, there’s the other perspective which says, no, no, we are a spiritual entity that is having this physical experience. I’m wearing this suit of flesh because I want to be able to express myself in this three dimensional, four dimensional world. But in fact, I’m a higher dimensional entity that just happens to be inhabiting this reality. So that struggle will probably not be easily solved. Those who want to see the evidence will find it, and those who refuse to see it, well, for them it doesn’t exist.

MATT: I believe that if someone has a part of their life that is spiritual. Then, if we look at how everything is, for me, it would make sense that we would want to evolve consciously, that that would be maybe what we should be doing with our lives to an extent, to become higher consciousness. And if that’s the case, that is exactly what Master Peace was made for. That was the intention behind it, to help you be more conscious, to help raise your consciousness, to help get you closer to ascension. It gets the things out of you in a physical fashion, which prevent anybody from raising their vibrational frequency or their consciousness, which is stuck trapped metals that don’t belong in you, that throw you off. We’re 99% water molecules, but we’re bathing in electromagnetic fields. Water is very affected by electromagnetic fields. If we have metals stuck inside of our 99% water molecules, we can’t get anywhere, no matter how much we want to, in terms of raising our consciousness. Now, this gets those metals out, but then it replaces it with unmodified RNA and all the nutrition so that your body can be able to operate. And I would say across the board, people as a consciousness is raising on an individual basis when they take Master Peace. I don’t know of one person yet who said, you know this stuff, I can’t think of anybody that’s posted anywhere that I’ve seen that says, oh, this stuff didn’t do anything for me. I don’t see anything at all. It sometimes takes the second or third bottle because we’ve been accumulating toxins for a long time. But, you know, I believe for me, in my life, I do have a large spiritual aspect to me, and I believe I’m here to learn and grow and evolve and make a difference, but also raise my consciousness. That’s what I have control over, and Master Peace helps me do that, unlike anything out there.

MARTIN: I think that’s about all the topics that we could possibly push in, in an intro.

MATT: Now, Nikki’s created a video where it’s a direct comparison of Master Peace versus Clean Slate. You could watch it. It’s a four minute video, it’s as straight to the point as it could ever get. It might be too much for you because we don’t hold anything back. We reverse engineered. Kansas State told me exactly how much is in theirs. Touchstone’s, Zoiglobal, everything that makes them up. That was the results. They came back to me. I didn’t tell them: “Well, they claim this.” They just said hand this over because we want to reverse engineer it and know what we’re looking at. And then they came back to us with the results. And then we started looking at what this formula is going to look like, possibly. So yeah. I can tell you, if we want to do that, I didn’t know Martin, head and shoulders we are superior in every way that it can even be looked at. When I originally went about going and making this formula, and I reached out to Kansas State University, who tout themselves as the number one nanolab in America and whatnot, their chief scientific officer, Michael Koh. He has done this a time or two in creating formulas. The first thing he asked me to do was find him the top sellers, the big market people that were really putting out the products. And so the biggest and top competitors, if you will, we handed over the top three. They used $40 million in nanotechnology equipment spread over three labs to analyze their products and reverse engineer their products. As deep in as they could go. And that is what we started at.

MATT: So from the very first day when Master Peace started becoming Master Peace, we knew where everybody was at. And from there we built and every decision was based on what’s going to be the best for mankind. It wasn’t for profit, for gain. It wasn’t to have a fancy marketing trick. It was to, what is going to make a better end product that’s going to perform better for the user? And that’s why we originally started with bee pollen. These other companies, that is when you’re talking about nano Zeolite companies, 95% of them, they don’t have any type of minerals or anything. They’re simply nano Zeolite in water, in filtered water. There’s nothing more to them. They don’t put any more Zeolite in there than what will, they don’t want it to come back together and clump up over time. They’re worried about shelf stability where we are not worried about any of those things. We were wanting a product that was going to be the best. So we ended up putting together we found marine plasma that is not just minerals, that has a lot of other different types of things in there that the body needs when it’s growing. And I guess what you would say is there’s a lot of different ways to look at the formulas and what’s out there. There’s a lot of companies out there, but in every way that we can compare or look at Master Peace compared to any other top competitors, we are head and shoulders above everyone in every way. Does that usually happen anywhere with anything? No, but that is what we’re looking at with Master Peace.

TERI LYNN: So we’re also seeing some real interesting feedback. So we’ve got weight releases, from those that have weight to release. We have improved thyroid function. Sleep quality, almost everyone says that they’re sleeping better. We have a gentleman who is having seizures regularly and is getting a better MRI result. Last time he checked that his tumor is not growing like it had been every month. We have a direct experience with a ten year old autistic girl who was not potty trained and spoke very few words or nonverbal at the time. And with Matthew and his wife actually working with this girl for three days, she was potty trained. By the end of a couple of weeks, I believe, and was speaking more. So those are the types of things we’re seeing, raising consciousness. People are just saying that they feel better. There’s just this well-being about them that’s better.

MATT: So I think the bottom line with anything is that what matters is the results and results should speak for themselves when something is the real deal. And what we’re seeing is a ten year old girl named Alyssa, who was nonverbal her whole life. She was non potty trained her whole life. And by the second week she was saying three words and she was potty trained by the end of the week, she was much calmer. She was a completely different child. We have all across the world people who have had strong cases of dementia and brain fog. Their clarity improves, their focus, their ability to be present. I believe across the board people experience better sleep. It’s very unlikely that you won’t notice a measurable degree of improvement in your dream clarity, your dream vividness or lucidness, things that people a lot of times have something to do with autoimmune issues that they’ve had their whole life, that they’ve tried everything for. We’ve seen a multitude of people say, I haven’t changed anything else in my life. I’m only taking Master Peace, this had to be it. We’ve had people who have gone to their doctors, a lot of people that have gone to their doctors with all types of issues where they know their thyroid level and all different types of levels and what analysis on their blood does. And they’re coming back with improvements. In fact, I can’t remember someone who’s actually gone to the doctor, came back with the same charts as before and said, yeah, nothing got better because we’re really only hearing people say, my levels have improved. So hair, nails, we’ve seen amazing wound healing done with Master Peace. So really, you can imagine that when the heavy metals are outside of the cell, they get out of the cell and are replaced with the nourishment that’s in Master Peace. Everything tends to improve to some degree, at least noticeable. It may only be 20%. It may be that it completely clears up. And that’s kind of what we’re seeing across the board when it comes to taking Master Peace.

MARTIN: All right people, thank you. Matthew Hazen and Teri Lynn. Master Peace is now available at Life Enthusiast, and I am extremely grateful and honored to be able to present it. Thank you very much. You can find it at Life-enthusiast.com and by phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 467: Protelase

Over the past three years, billions of individuals have participated in what has been labeled a “safe and effective” experiment. Sadly, most of these people did not receive informed consent. There is accumulating evidence indicating that the spike proteins produced in the course of this experiment can have severe repercussions. These proteins have been associated with the initiation of IGG4 diseases, blood clotting, autoimmune problems, and various other issues. Research shows that being proteins, spike proteins have the potential to be broken down by proteolytic enzymes. For that we recommend Protelase. While doing a spike protein detox, we recommend that you consider taking our Albedextrin product at the same time to support the body in dealing with amyloid plaque. Clearing spike proteins but getting Alzheimer’s instead is not a desirable outcome.

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MARTIN: Hello everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. With me today, Spencer Feldman, the CEO at Remedylink. And Spencer has an invention. Spencer has many inventions. And today yet another one. I’m excited about it because it is timely and it’s very important. Spencer Feldman. Welcome to Life Enthusiast.

SPENCER: Always a pleasure, Martin.

MARTIN: Oh, absolutely. Mine too. So. Let’s give it a name, shall we?

SPENCER: Yes, I thought for this podcast we would discuss what people can do if sometime in the last three years they made a choice that they are now suffering from.

MARTIN: Oh, safe and effective?

SPENCER: Yes.

MARTIN: Okay. Well, if you have done something safe and effective recently and you’re wondering if that was a good idea, I think it wasn’t. And the statistics show that, well, depending on which of the batches you got and depending on what your status of your immune system is, you may have results that range from mild to terminal. Anyway, there’s a product coming out of Remedylink and it has a name. What is the name?

SPENCER: Well it’s actually a protocol. There’s two products and we can get to the products towards the end. I want to focus, if that’s alright with you in the first part of the podcast, on what the problems are that people might be experiencing and the way in which I came about the protocols that I’m going to share. So I want to take them on the journey of discovery that I went through.

MARTIN: That actually makes sense. We have been experiencing this thing called; that’s known as sharing of genetic material. I don’t even want to use the word that’s commonly used, but it sounds a lot like sharing. And it’s when you are exchanging things either via the sputum or the sweat or the urine, or the other biological ways you are sharing the genetic material. Anyway, that’s my take on it. I have been affected by this by interacting with people who have done the safe and effective tricks. Anyway. The floor is yours really. Take us on your journey.

SPENCER: Alright. So it’s now late 2023 at the time of this podcast. And we have been seeing a lot of health issues that we really haven’t seen before. Young people having heart attacks, very aggressive cancers, chronic conditions in people that were previously very healthy. And some believe that this is due to the toxic protein from either infections or the safe and effective choices that people have made. Now, researchers have found the toxic protein in the blood of people six months after a safe and effective intervention. So how can this be? Because the body is very good at breaking down proteins. Well, if the person had a viral reservoir in their body, they might be continually making toxic proteins. That’s one possibility. Another possibility is the foreign genetic material is still active in their cells, and that’s making toxic proteins. And the third is something that I believe I was one of the first people to put into the scientific space, which is that endogenous reverse transcriptase may have allowed safe and effective foreign genetic material to enter the DNA. And now a person has been genetically modified. In all three cases, the toxic proteins have to be addressed, as they’re being continually manufactured. But I would say that I think it’s most likely going to be the second, number two of the three possibilities, and that is foreign genetic material continually cranking out toxic proteins. I think that’s the main way in which this is happening.

MARTIN: Right. I actually would like to butt in here with what I understand is happening is that once this material is in because it’s artificially made, it doesn’t have the typical off switch that other genetic material has. This thing is only forward, no reverse.

SPENCER: Sort of. So in the first case, let’s say that if a person has a chronic viral reservoir, well, a lot of the reservoirs, they’re actually going to be in a dormant state, and they won’t actually be generating toxic proteins until they become active. So if someone is one of the few people that actually doesn’t have a functioning immune system to be able to knock out a chronic virus, that will have to be addressed. I don’t think it’s the main player. And in terms of the reverse transcriptase, if foreign genetic material has gone into the DNA. Remember, DNA doesn’t do anything on its own. It has to be activated. So let’s say it has been attached to something like an insulin gene or something like that. Then every time the body makes insulin it makes a toxic protein along with it. But then it would have an off switch because the insulin has the off switch. So I’m not concerned with that so much because even though it would be being generated, it’s only being generated when that particular gene is being activated, which can be quite often if it’s a very ubiquitous or highly utilized gene. Again, I think the main issue is that the foreign genetic material simply doesn’t break down. And there is something and indeed there is a problem with the off switch, but it’s not at the genetic level, it’s at the codon level.

SPENCER: And I’m going to explain that in a moment. But before we get into that deep science, let’s first start talking about the toxic protein to begin with. First of all, among all the many things it does, it’s neurotoxic and accumulates in the brain. So to have something that damages the brain and accumulates in the brain is a bad combination, and it’s actually causing brains to physically shrink. We’re going to get into that in a minute. Another thing that people are familiar with is that the toxic protein is among the most thrombogenic compounds known to man. That means that it’s really good at making blood clots. Thus, the increase in heart attacks and strokes we’ve been seeing and heart attacks in eight year olds is not normal, regardless of how many bus advertisements are paid for around the world. Trying to gaslight people into saying that baby heart attacks are normal and we’ve always had them. No, they’re not. Okay, so when you take a look at the toxic protein, scientists have found sequences, protein sequences from 20 different venomous snakes. And these include phospholipases, which dissolve motor nerve terminals and muscle membranes, and metalloproteinases, which cause hemorrhage, necrosis, and zinc deficiency. And as you know, zinc deficiency also plays a very important role in this particular viral infection.

SPENCER: So adding an metalloproteinase to a viral infection that itself can be knocked out with zinc ionophores was a particularly dirty trick. So 20 different venomous snake venoms, 15 from snails and these are called conotoxins, which damage acetylcholine. That’s again the nerves and then takes you to the loss of taste and smell. And then one from starfish. So there are 36 different animal venoms that have been identified in the toxic protein signature. So it’s like being bit by 20 poisonous snakes. 15 poisonous snails and one poisonous starfish. Very lightly, but all day long, every day. No wonder people are feeling on edge and not feeling well. The toxic protein is also carcinogenic. It increases the odds of getting cancer. It reactivates cancers that were in remission, and it takes slow growing cancers and makes them grow at vastly accelerated rates. And these are known as turbo cancers. So this is when someone goes in to see the doctor with a lump and the woman says: “I’ve got a lump in the breast.” And the doctor goes: “Wow, well, you know, you’ve been in remission for 20 years. Let me take a look at it. Wow. You’re right. That came on pretty quick.” And then the woman is dead a month later.

SPENCER: Right? As opposed to having five years to work with it or so. The toxic protein causes autoimmune diseases and allergies. And like I said before, it causes a literal shrinking of the brain. We now know that these proteins may not pass the blood brain barrier directly, but we now know that they enter the brain first through the bone marrow and then through the meninges. Now, Martin, I think it’s this brain damage is why we’re seeing so much violence and madness in the world today. When people get brain injuries, one very common side effect is they become very irritable, very violent, and can in some cases go insane if the damage is bad enough. Toxic proteins also trigger both new cases of Alzheimer’s, as well as amplify those cases that are already there. So just like it causes turbo cancers, it’s causing turbo Alzheimer’s. Alzheimer’s was of a particular interest to me. I was trying to understand why that particular condition could happen. And because I know from my research that Alzheimer’s, along with most neurologic conditions, is associated with prions or misfolded proteins. It turns out that there are, if you break down the toxic protein, there are at least seven suspected prions that are released as fragments.

SPENCER: And it’s these prions, these misfolded protein fragments, I believe, are what is causing Alzheimer’s in people that have made safe and effective choices. Now the body is always breaking down the toxic protein to a small degree with an enzyme called neutrophil elastase. So there’s always a degree of simultaneously the clotting phenomenon, along with the brain damage and Alzheimer’s phenomena from the fragments that are being created. We want as a protocol to break down… There’s three things that we want to do as I’m thinking of a protocol.

One, we want to break down the toxic protein, but two, we want to break down the fragments or neutralize the fragments that are created from the toxic protein. And three, we want to try to go after the foreign genetic material and neutralize that. So it can’t keep making more toxic proteins. So think of it, it’s almost like an enemy tank is coming on the battlefield and you have a shoulder mounted anti-tank weapon and you knock out the tank. But out jump seven soldiers with machine guns, you’ve knocked out the tank, but now you have another problem. You can’t just stop there. So no doubt you’ve heard of various ways to break down the toxic protein. What are your favorite methods, Martin?

MARTIN: We have the Nano Soma, which is definitely good at clearing the issues that we see using dark field blood analysis. Those structures that appear go away when a person is on Nano Soma. The other thing we’re hearing is that nicotine is really attractive to the alpha seven nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, meaning that that one part that you were identifying as the conosnail toxins that gets knocked out with having nicotine on board. And then, of course, EDTA works marvelously well on clearing a lot of stuff that I’m aware of.

SPENCER: So it seems that the most common thing I’m hearing is nattokinase.

MARTIN: So that would be for blood clotting.

SPENCER: Right. But also actually the specific toxic proteins that are causing the clotting in the first place. So Nattokinase is an enzyme made by the bacteria Bacillus subtilis which is a soil bacteria. And it’s being cultured and used in the Japanese fermented dish natto. And you can buy nattokinase as an enzyme. And it has shown to be able to break down toxic proteins. But that’s not the only one. We also know that Serrapeptase, the enzyme that butterflies use to break out of their protein shell, chrysalis, will also work. As well as lumbrokinase, which is found in earthworms and is a Chinese medicine supplement. And then pancreatin, which is the enzyme we make in our pancreas. What I would say is, I wouldn’t focus on one proteolytic enzyme, I would do all four. And with the hope that not only can we break down the toxic protein, but also possibly break down some of the fragments it breaks into, into finer and finer parts until they’re no longer venomous for us. So that’s one aspect of it.

Now the second issue is there are going to be some prions. Now, it’s unlikely we’re going to be able to completely break down the toxic protein. Some prions are going to get released, and then the person is going to have had prions in them for as many years as since they made their safe and effective choice. So let me explain how this works with the prions.

SPENCER: When proteins are made, they’re made from strings of amino acids that fold in four different phases. And then when they’re done, usually the fat soluble amino acids are on the inside of the protein molecule, and the water soluble ones are on the outside. And because it’s water soluble, it allows this protein, whatever it’s going to do to move around in the cell and be transported about. And then eventually broken down when it’s no longer needed, or has started breaking down itself. A prion, also known as a misfolded protein, is one where the protein has broken or misfolded in such a way that a fat soluble part is sticking outside like a little spike. It’s sticking outside of the protein. And now that it’s partially fat soluble, it’s very hard to get rid of it because it can stick inside the membranes and the lipids and the brain. And it also makes it a little bit more difficult for the body to break it down. So what we need to do to get rid of these prions that the toxic protein will break into, is we need to make the prions fully water soluble again. And the only way that I know how to do that is with something called a cyclodextrin. Cyclo means ring, dextrin means sugar. So cyclodextrins, the ones I use are the alpha and beta cyclodextrins with five and six sugar molecules in rings and the inside of the cyclodextrin is fat soluble, the outside is water soluble, and so it’s like a game of ring toss.

SPENCER: The ring goes on to the spike on the prion. And now that is covered and so it renders the entire protein water soluble again. Now it can leave the cell without getting stuck inside the membranes. And you drink some water and you can just urinate it out. Then of course, cyclodextrins have other benefits that you and I have already spoken about before. And in terms of being a sugar, it’s non-metabolic. So it’s not going to interfere with your sugar metabolism in that manner. So if we leave these prions in because they now have a fat soluble side because they’re basically almost kind of a polar aspect to them, they can assemble and start forming giant crystals in the brain. And well, that’s what the amyloid plaque is in Alzheimer’s. So Cyclodextrins, I think, are also an important part of this protocol.

Now let’s get back to what we can do about the cause, which is the foreign genetic material. When the body makes RNA, it’s broken down in about two hours. It doesn’t last long because you don’t want the body to be constantly making proteins. The way this works is that your DNA is a library system and it has all this information on how to make mostly proteins. Right. And so when the epigenetically gets a signal to make more protein, it says, hey, let’s make some insulin or hey, let’s make this particular enzyme.

SPENCER: That respective part of the DNA opens up, the RNA is created, and now the RNA with that information is inside the cell, and something called a ribosome grabs on and it grabs onto the RNA strand. And as it kind of passes it through, as it goes through, like pulling a needle through a string, a thread through a needle as it passes through, it’s the ribosome gets the instructions on how to make that particular bit of protein, and it gets extruded out as a string which folds four times. It makes your proteins, gets to the end of the RNA where there is a stop codon, and then the ribosome lets go of the RNA, the protein moves off and then that’s that. And over time the RNA itself is broken down when we no longer need that particular protein. That’s what’s supposed to happen.

What has happened with the foreign genetic material from safe and effective choices is they did something called pseudouridylation, which is an alteration of a few key chemical bonds in genetic material. Now, what this did is several things. Number one, it made it very stable. Another way of saying “stable” is that it is very difficult for the body to break down. It’s become a forever chemical in the body, for lack of a better term. So now rather than making a particular toxic protein for two hours, it makes it nonstop.

SPENCER: We have found that the foreign genetic material, which normally has a half life of 1 to 18 minutes, so it’s gone in two hours. They’re finding it’s still in people who have made safe and effective choices, one month after the safe and effective choice. Well, what we really need to do is see studies because one month was the last point. They’re saying it’s stable at one month. They didn’t say it wasn’t stable at two or 3 or 6 months or a year or forever. They didn’t do those tests. So I’m hoping that whoever did the one month stabilization test for the foreign genetic material will do that. Now at the three year point, because it’s 2023 and we have people who have made those choices. So I think it’s possible that this genetic material never breaks down. And so it’s constantly making toxic proteins.

Now the other thing that the Pseudouridylation did is it made it an addition to more stable or incredibly stable, it made it very stealth. It made it very difficult for the immune system to even see it, to do anything to it, to break it down or sequester it, to do anything. A third thing that it did was it broke the stop codon. So when you were saying there’s no off switch, this is the lack of the off switch that’s actually the problem. The stop codon is gone. So when the ribosome starts going through, when the RNA starts going through the ribosome and creating the toxic protein, and it gets to the stop code and it doesn’t, it reads through it and goes to the end.

SPENCER: But that’s not the problem. Worst case scenario, ribosomes would keep getting attached until the thing was just a big furry ribosome caterpillar, and just that was the end of it. That would be great if that’s what would happen, because that would neutralize the foreign genetic material. That’s not what happens. What they did is something else. They took the foreign genetic material and instead of it being a string, they wrapped it into a circle. So now the ribosome grabs on and goes around the circle. Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick. Making a protein. And it gets to where it would be a stop codon. Stop codon is broken. Reads right through it and then makes another copy and then another. So there’s no way to turn it off. It’s cycling like a broken record, continuously extruding out this toxic protein. Now, DNA is some six feet long in the cell, it’s wrapped very tightly, which is what allows that much material to be in there. But who’s to say how long these extruded toxic proteins can get? I wouldn’t be surprised if they get to be 1 or 2 feet long before the cell bursts and it gets into the circulation.

SPENCER: So when we’re seeing an autopsy done by embalmers, them pulling out these one and two foot long fibrous clots out of people’s blood vessels, I think it’s these extremely long, thrombogenic toxic proteins that are flushing into the bloodstream. We have to find a way to deal with the foreign genetic material in the first place. And there’s two options I can think of. One is we can try to break them down. The second is we can try to sequester them somewhere. So what are our options on dealing with this foreign genetic material? Well, there’s two options I can think of.

We can try to break them down, or we can try to sequester them somewhere in the body where they are no longer active. In terms of breaking them down, they are proteins, so we’re back to proteolytic enzymes. Now, of the four that I mentioned, I don’t know if the first three can do it because I haven’t seen any data. But Pancreatin has enzymes called pancreatic ribonucleases that absolutely can break down foreign genetic material. So increasing pancreatic enzyme level in the bloodstream is one way in which we might be able to break down foreign genetic material. Now the other is storing them someplace. The body does have a place to store toxic things, they’re called the lysosomes. And what lysosomes do is they are both recycling centers and landfills.

SPENCER: They recycle old and broken proteins and things so that the amino acids can be reused, but they also will store things they can’t break down, things that are toxic. When the body says, hey, I don’t want this in the cellular machinery, but I can’t seem to break it down. The lysosome will grab onto it, but there’s only so much room in a lysosome, and the more room that is spent as a landfill, the less it can recycle. So you really don’t want to have your lysosomes filled up as a landfill, because it means you can’t recycle. But it’s better to have that than to have foreign genetic material, making toxic proteins with 36 types of venom. So what we want to do is we want to break down the foreign genetic material as much as possible. And to the degree that we can’t, we want to store it away in the lysosome. To do that, the lysosomes must have the room in the first place. That means we have to have them cleaned out. And a lot of people are walking around with lysosomes stuffed full of toxins. However, there are things we can do. So every bit of detox you do that helps clean out the lysosomes makes more room for the foreign genetic material, of which there’s only a certain amount. Assuming you stop making safe and effective choices and we can sequester that all.

MARTIN: I’d like to put a pin in that one. I think that this stuff has gone environmental. I think this is now reproducing. I think it’s now in the air because it’s aerosolized and it’s passed from one person to another. So I think that this is a gift that keeps on giving. I don’t think there will ever be a safe space anymore.

SPENCER: So foreign genetic material is extremely, even the stable parts. They get broken down by oxygen, they get broken down by ultraviolet light. And sure, we may end up having this from lots of different sources, but I think the main source is going to be the, I think if they could have done that, they wouldn’t have needed to push people into safe and effective choices. I think the fact that they tried to push the entire planet into safe and effective choices tells me that they don’t quite have an ability to get significant amounts done by the aerosols.

MARTIN: Okay. The material that’s transmitted as aerosol is nowhere near as effective as,

SPENCER: I think that there are other things that are being done but I don’t believe genetic material is part of it. So in terms of cleaning up the lysosomes, any kind of detox will work. Fasting is very helpful, but the very best thing you can do are actually cyclodextrins. I’ve seen Cyclodextrins can get the lysosomes cleaned out in a way that even ten and fourteen day water fasts can’t do. It’s really good at flushing the lysosomes out. So here we are, the same thing we want to use to neutralize prions. We can also use to clean out the lysosomes so that the foreign genetic material can be isolated away from the ribosomes and locked up in the lysosomes, where they won’t be generating more toxic proteins.

So as such, here’s the protocol someone can consider. All four of the enzymes we discussed, mainly Nattokinase, Serrapeptase, Lumbrokinase, and Pancreatin. However, it should be in a liposomal form because only 3% to 5% of enzymes are absorbed when taken orally if they’re not liposomal. Now, the fact that nattokinase has had such wonderful results taken orally shows you how powerful it is that even 3 to 5% will do something. But we’re not trying to get this in the digestive tract. We’re trying to go to the bloodstream. So liposomal with an 80%-85% absorption is going to be much more powerful. And then the second would be cyclodextrins. And cyclodextrins normally are done by IV. I cracked the code on how to make cyclodextrins orally available and that’s available too. And should you want these, the product with the four proteolytic enzymes in a liposomal form is called Protelase. And the product with the cyclodextrins, both the alpha and the beta is called Albedextrin.

MARTIN: But when you’re given two months to go because you have a pancreatic defect diagnosis, people who have made it through that and stayed alive were the ones who were taking very large doses of pancreatic enzymes. And of course, this illness that I’m trying to say no name of is the one that’s essentially genetic defect.

SPENCER: I think we’re seeing a failure of natural medicine in modern days relative to how well it worked 50 years ago. It’s not a failure, but it’s not a failure on the side of natural medicine. I think that people are so toxic and so genetically compromised that the things that used to work don’t work as well anymore. I love natural medicine, and I love using natural supplements whenever possible. Someone might come and say, well, why are you suggesting cyclodextrins? They’re not really in the natural environment. Ok, yes, sure. A little bit comes in wine and bread from fermented starch. But, you know, why are we doing these things? And the answer is fight fire with fire. Unfortunately, the environment we’re in, the sophistication of the attacks on the human body and the amount of toxins and the destruction of the environment means that we really have to use science to fight science. So I think it’s great to use as much natural supplements as humanly possible. But I would say that some things that are made in a lab, for instance, cyclodextrins have a role to play because we just, it’s all hands on deck at this point. We need all the help we can get. As long as you maintain the first precept, which is first do no harm, then bring everything you have to bear on this problem.

MARTIN: Yeah. And we’re long past that one. So let’s try and be a little practical. So the Albedextrin I remember that the protocol that you’ve put forward says, well, you can start with about a tablespoon a day for a first while, but remember to take some either phosphatidylcholine or lecithin 3 or 4 hours later, because this thing goes after a lot of fat soluble material in your body, and you need to rebuild the protection, right?

SPENCER: Right. It’s also very similar to the same thing with the Cholephage, which was the recreation of the lipid exchange protocols of the Germans from 80 years ago. You want to, if you’re going to flush out the membranes, flush out the toxic fats, or in this case, the prions, which you could say are toxic fats now. Then you also have to realize that you have to fill the places that they were incorporated in. If they’ve been incorporated in your membranes, well, they’re out, but something good has to go and take its place.

MARTIN: Mhm. Hence the Phosphatidylcholine or Lecithin. That is the material from which the cell membrane is made.

SPENCER: Preferably both because while it’s primarily Phosphatidylcholine that you need, there are lots of other phospholipids that you won’t find in a purified Phosphatidylcholine supplement that you would find in Lecithin.

MARTIN: Okay, great. I started by saying that okay, intense program a tablespoon a day on an empty stomach probably before breakfast and then have some Lecithin with lunch.

SPENCER: Yeah. Or even better, maybe Lecithin with dinner. You know, so you’ve got the most amount of time for the cyclodextrins to do their work and then leave before you put the nutrients back in. And then of course, at the same time, I would probably be doing 2 to 4 of the Protelase, proteolytic enzymes. I don’t know yet, because we haven’t had enough opportunity to come up with exact numbers for people. But with all things that are very powerful like this, start slow and find your tolerance and work your way up.

MARTIN: Okay, so this is the opposite of what I had said. Start with half a teaspoon, then one teaspoon.

SPENCER: I’m not as concerned with the cyclodextrins. You know, it’s just that liposomal proteolytic enzymes could have a very powerful effect on some people. So I would ask that someone just take one the first time, see how they handle it, and then if that’s all right two, and then so forth and so on.

MARTIN: Okay. So what do you think is a heavy dose for a 160 pound affair?

SPENCER: I would think that a person could go to 4 or 6 at a serving. But again, slowly work your way up. Right. These are very, very strong.

MARTIN: Okay. Now your bottle being 60 capsules, that you would be needing three bottles a month at that dose.

SPENCER: Well, so the idea is we would want a loading phase where we’re clearing out as much of the material that’s been building up for as long as they’ve made their safe and effective choice, which could be up to three years. At a certain point in time, the backlog of all this material hopefully has been resolved. And what’s left is just the small amounts that are still getting made in the background that we just can’t seem to get to. And then it might be something like one capsule a day, two capsules a day, depending on how they feel when they start and when they stop it.

MARTIN: Okay. That’s straightforward. Again, the enzymes should be taken on an empty stomach because they need to get passed through the stomach to the small intestine to be absorbed. Right?

SPENCER: Well, some liposomes I think actually make it through the stomach wall. But yes, it’s best when taking liposomes. And although the Albedextrin isn’t a liposome, the way I’ve made it kind of functionally makes it a liposome without giving away too many technological secrets. So you could actually think of them both as liposomes, and so you would take them both on an empty stomach and wait half an hour for them to cross through the intestines. Usually the stomach empties itself in 30 to 45 minutes if there’s nothing, if it’s mostly liquids.

MARTIN: I was actually believing that 20 or 25 is enough, but all right. Well, straight forward. So yeah, we painted them a pretty grim picture here.

SPENCER: I hope not, I hope not, I hope that this..

MARTIN: Well it pays for needing to do things. I mean, there are solutions. And this is definitely one of them, an important one. I’ve started on the Albedextrin and it’s interesting how it affects me. It definitely is a change in my state of being. It’s curious.

SPENCER: What have you been noticing, Martin?

MARTIN: Uh, it’s affecting my thinking. It’s affecting my brain processing. It’s affecting my appetite. It’s just, in a positive way, actually.

SPENCER: Okay, good.

MARTIN: Yeah, I should be saying.

SPENCER: So, you know, there might be people listening to this saying, hey, I made one, two, three safe and effective choices, and I don’t feel any worse for the wear. And as Martin mentioned,

MARTIN: Not all batches were made equal.

SPENCER: Right. Some of the safe and effective choices may have been placebo. But what I would say, and this is what I would tell my own family and my own friends. If you’ve made a safe and effective choice, while I pray that what you got was saline, let’s not assume it. The fact that you don’t have any symptoms you’re aware of now is wonderful. Having said that, blood clots and Alzheimer’s, microclots and Alzheimer’s aren’t things that always have dramatic, immediate, life threatening results. Sometimes they just slowly wreck the system. It’s like pouring sugar into the gas tank. If you put a little bit in, the car won’t won’t stop, but you’re going to have trouble. So I wouldn’t want people to say, well, since I’m not feeling anything now, let’s not do anything. And then, ten years, 15 years later, they have Alzheimer’s. Right?

MARTIN: Well, because these things are logarithmic or geometric in how they behave. It’s like if you could visualize a graph, it goes slowly, slowly, slowly. The slope isn’t that bad. And then you hit the inflection and bang.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: This is how they were describing, well how did you get broke? Well slowly for a long time, and then suddenly.

SPENCER: And then all of a sudden. Right, so do something now before architectural changes in the brain happen that are much more difficult to fix. Sometimes the brain doesn’t get fixed and what simply happens is other parts take over. But that becomes harder as a person gets older. So, meditate on it. Maybe this is something that might be something, a gift you give your future self by taking care of this now. And the hope is that it does work. And we don’t know yet. You know, this is all just research.

MARTIN: Yeah. And of course, here we are selling umbrellas on a sunny day. Right.

SPENCER: Or selling umbrellas on a day where it’s raining and people just say, oh, it’s just a little bit of rain. I’m like, well, okay, but it rains long enough and the nighttime comes, it’s going to get cold and you’re going to be wet.

MARTIN: Yeah, yeah. Like that. Okay. Well, so here we have it. We will have the product links in the show notes. It’s Protelase. And it’s Albedextrin. Take a look. Consider it. It’s probably a worthy investment.

SPENCER: Well, Martin, one day I look forward to us having a conversation that isn’t about trying to. Just you and I having a conversation. We’re like: “Hey, wasn’t it nice weather today? Oh, yeah. And I heard some great music. Did you hear about this? There’s this great symphony I want to share with you.” One day, Martin. One day. But for now.

MARTIN: Spencer Feldman, Remedylink and Life Enthusiast. You can find us at Life-enthusiast.com or by phone (866) 543-3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 456: Spring Jing & Rakta

Rehmannia from Super Tonic Herbs, formerly known as RDT Herbs, joins Martin to talk about the launch of his two new herbal tonics, Spirit Jing & Rakta.

Spirit Jing – A delectable longevity formula to elevate the spirit, increase vitality, keeping you grounded and centered. A blend of black foods to tonify Jing.

Rakta – A wonderful tonic to help build Chi and blood. It is especially useful to regulate healthy female menstrual cycles. Also helps to strengthen the metabolism.

Rehmannia Dean Thomas is a Taoist Tonic Herbalist in the 5000 year old Gate of Life lineage from China. His herbs are considered anti-aging, preventative, and empowering for the entire body mind and spirit.

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MARTIN: Hi everyone. Martin Pytela here for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and today with me Rehmannia Dean Thomas. Rehmannia is the CEO of RDT Herbs, and now Super Tonic,

REHMANNIA: Herbs.

MARTIN: Our Super Tonic Herbs, which is kind of cool. Super tonic, super sonic. So welcome Rehmannia.

MARTIN: What’s kind of neat is that you’re now introducing two more products to the lineup, which already was pretty rich.

REHMANNIA: Thank you. Yeah, there’s more to come too.

MARTIN: Oh, you know, one of the nicest compliments I heard was one of the people who bought all of them. She first bought three as a sample. And then she bought the whole line. And then she said, when I get the products, you can just feel the love that’s gone into building it. The bottles are classy, the labels are meticulous. The product is well made. You can see and feel the energy that’s gone into doing it. Just.

REHMANNIA: Oh my god! I’d love to read that testimonial. Maybe if I could use it on my website, I could ask her permission.

MARTIN: Well, you can call her. She’s the one that offered her phone number to talk to you.

REHMANNIA: Great. That’s sweet. Thank you. If you’re watching. .

MARTIN: And anyway, let’s do this. Let’s talk about the two new arrivals. What’s your pick?

REHMANNIA: Well, we go back to the first new one, which is Spirit Jing. And then go in chronological order, . Spirit Jing is a very unique nutritional powder that’s kind of shake mix. You make a shake out of it, I love nut milks and oat milk and things like that. And to me, just straight up with some of the regular oat milk or nut milk from the grocery is fabulous. Of course, you know, there’s a lot of purists out there who make their own. That’s even better! I’m lazy though, so I go to the store. I know I shouldn’t. But anyway, it’s fantastic! And just in milk, a glass of milk in the morning, it’s essentially an anti-aging and spirit tonic combined, because we have a combination of herbs and superfoods that are targeted over the centuries to anti-aging and spiritual peace and countenance of the spirit.

REHMANNIA: And I put the two together because that’s what we’re seeking. We’re not only seeking longevity, but we must have a peaceful heart too, if we’re going to have true longevity. . Because fear and worry and remorse and all of that is what makes us age, a lot of the time. And if we put anti-aging herbs in with a strong sense of spiritual empowerment, like you’ve got some reason you’re here. You’ve got some potent reason for being alive and that, it’s good. And of course we all do. This formula can help you sort of express that in your lives. It’s called Spirit Jing, now spirit of course, is a spirit. But jing, is an ancient Chinese word meaning immortal, or it means your reproductive health in your body itself.

REHMANNIA: And it’s an epigenetic energy. We’re passing down jing through generations. If we want to understand the true foundation of our health, we look back at our great-grandparents on both sides, our grandparents and parents. What were they doing? How were they living? What were they eating? What kind of water were they drinking? Were they getting sunlight? All that. Were they working physically and doing these things? And we inherited that. And then we’re gonna pass that on to our progeny. That’s called Jing. This formula is about building up that energy so that we pass it on to new generations. Well, the unique thing about Spirit Jing makes it very different from, particularly all of the protein powders on the market and such, is that it is composed of foods that are called black foods. Black foods are said to tonify Jing or they go directly to Jing.

REHMANNIA: And this happened because a long time ago, the Chinese were studying human physiology, and they looked at the kidneys and saw that they looked like two black beans, . And they were down here really deep down in there where it’s dark in the body. And they said, well, what if we eat black food? Maybe it’ll go down there. And so it became a popular pastime, particularly for the elite and sometimes restricted to the elite, to eat black foods. That’s why black rice is called forbidden black rice, because there were times during certain dynasties when the common people were forbidden from having it. It was only taken by the elite because it was considered an anti-aging food. So Spirit Jing is composed of black foods, black rice, black sesame, and black beans. Now, what they do is, there’s a Korean technique that I was so fortunate to discover when I lived in Koreatown in Los Angeles, that where they take these beans and rice and sesame and bake it and grind it down into a sort of a really creamy powder where the flatulence potential is gone from beans and it just tastes so good, and you just can’t believe it.

REHMANNIA: It’s a very popular pastime in Korea to drink these drinks. So I took the three primary black foods. And a lot of these products that I saw, that were already in Korean marketplaces, were usually mixed with a lot of things like white rice, brown rice, kind of like barley like material called koex and barley. But I said, well, what if we just do it all black? And that was the first time that that was done. And so then I added in black maca, black reishi mushroom, that’s the shin part, the spirit part. And albizia flower, which is the dark magnolia flower, is a bit of a misnomer, but it’s referred to as albizia flower, the hard albizia flower. This is a dark flower. And then also schisandra, which is very dark in color, and it’s considered one of the top anti-aging gene foods of all.

REHMANNIA: I combine these in Spirit Jing. It’s a unique product that nothing like it has ever been done. And it is so tasty. I just had some, I get up every morning, I want to get out of bed to have this stuff. I remember the day I invented it. I put this and that and this and that increment, and well, let’s try it. And took a drink and went, whoa! I never changed it a single iota from that first test run I did that day. I’m so proud of this product.

MARTIN: And so you just take what, one or two teaspoons of it? And mix it into the nut milk.

REHMANNIA: Yeah. Thanks Martin. This one is more of a whole, powders of bean rice and sesame. So it takes more like a heaping tablespoon of it is what I put in, or round heaping tablespoon into a glass of nut milk, in this case. So most of the other products,

MARTIN: Because it is in a much bigger bag too, right?

REHMANNIA: Yeah. It comes in a one pound bag. So, you would do it like kind of the same increment as you would use like your protein, your daily protein powder mix. And you can mix it with those too, if you’d like. But there’s something about Spirit Jing that just feels so alive. And like that woman mentioned to you, that feeling is there because we have to buy the bean rice and sesame freshly baked and rendered. Because you can’t just have this stuff laying around, like a lot of those protein powders, those products are so pretty much benign that they can be laying around in a warehouse or something for a long time before they’re mixed and used. And I think that, I feel a kind of vital energy from a lot of them, to tell you the truth. But we can’t do that with Spirit Jing. It has to be remain fresh, so we make it in very small batches, fresh. And that’s partly what that woman felt when she had it. You just don’t find really fresh protein and green powder formulas very easily.

MARTIN: Okay. Now, the ingredients are actually quite carby, right? So people who are on a keto diet probably will not be too happy about the level of carbohydrate in this, right?

REHMANNIA: Well, a carbohydrate is a unit of energy, and it burns. That’s what the body uses for energy, so. It depends on whether that carbohydrate is accompanied with nutrition. And so when the carb is burnt, there has to be nutrients involved to burn to true energy, so you don’t wind up at an energy deficit. So empty carbohydrates like sugar, what they do is they cause and they’re basically monosaccharides that cause a burst of energy, but don’t provide any nutrition to back it up. And that’s why in time it doesn’t do you any good. It produces what we call false fire. So, wow, wow. And then later on, whew, man, I got to go eat another sugar bar. You know? But this is different because complex carbohydrates like polysaccharides, very long chain, slow burning nutrient bearing sugars are very important in the diet. So understanding the nature of carbohydrates and like anything, there’s bad and good carbohydrates. This is the good stuff. .

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. So does the word fermentation play into this, or not really?

REHMANNIA: No. Not really. No. Everything is made fresh through a baking process and through a hot water extraction process for the herbs, and then flash dried into a powder. So it’s not, but I am coming out with another product for our next video that will be ferment based .

MARTIN: Oh, cool. Yeah. Very good. Okay. So Spirit Jing. Just in case you didn’t quite get the word, J-i-n-g, Jing.

REHMANNIA: Mm-hmm. Yes.

MARTIN: Is essentially a nutritional day starter energy kickstart. But more than anything, because you’re using the energy with the spiritual,

REHMANNIA: Yeah.

MARTIN: Slant to it, right. It’ll feed us. I mean, I had a bag of it. You sent it to me, when? Some time ago. Probably. Some time ago. And I remember taking it always in the morning and always feeling more centered. More willing and able to take on the world. It’s as if I had an extra guy on my crew.

REHMANNIA: Yeah . That’s a nice way to say it. Well, what I did was I took the bean powders and the jing tonics for anti-aging, and I added in pure extracts of the herbs, all of the herbs that are known in our Daoist lineage, which is 5,000 years old. There are herbs that have been classified to tonify the spirit. And that’s one reason why I love the original Chinese medical pharmacopeia so much is because it was mainly about prevention in those days, but it also was about our spiritual centeredness and empowerment. And I added the top, those herbs are called shin herbs. Shin means your spirit. And I added the top shin herbs into this formula. And I’m really proud of it.

MARTIN: Right on. Okay. So for practical things, this is an essentially a meal replacement, or at least a quick breakfast on the run. It’ll give you plenty of energy. And, try it. It’s a fun product.

REHMANNIA: Yeah. . I’ll have it in oatmeal in the morning, mixed into oatmeal, with a little added nut milk and maple syrup and oatmeal, pomegranates, But then in the night, you know, when you come home and it’s late in the evening. You’re kind of hungry, but you don’t want to eat. This is a wonderful drink. I actually feel like I sleep better when I have it in the night, late at night, as I don’t fill my stomach full of food.

MARTIN: All right. Spirit Jing it is. And it’ll agree with all the vegetarian ideas.

REHMANNIA: Yeah. Yeah. There’s nothing animal based in it.

MARTIN: Yeah. No black ant powder, huh?

REHMANNIA: No .

MARTIN: Because you could have put the most jing thing into it.

REHMANNIA: The thing is, if you put black ant powder in there, that is so jing, but it would, it would negatively affect the taste. It has a real sour sort of taste.

MARTIN: I know. Formic acid straight up.

REHMANNIA: Uh-huh . Yeah. Right, right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Oh, well. Okay, great. So that behind us, I would like to have you talk about this other new product that you made.

REHMANNIA: Yeah. Thanks. Thank you, Rakta.

MARTIN: Rakta

REHMANNIA: Rakta is my new,

MARTIN: That’s a curious word because you reached into Sanskrit to name something that’s a Chinese herb, right. .

REHMANNIA: That’s a good observation, Martin. It’s because frankly, okay. I was designing a formula to build blood, tonify the blood, because I feel that we need to move toward a vegetarian lifestyle. Not entirely. I actually, in fact, oddly, I kind of agree with the USDA food pyramid where they place meat consumption at about 10 to 20% of your diet, maybe 10 to 15%. That’s about right. But if we move away from heavy meat consumption, we want to make sure, and particularly those of us who choose to be vegan or vegetarian, do run a risk of becoming anemic because red meat is high in a type of iron called heme iron, or its technical name is ferrous iron, and this is the iron that’s very easy for us to assimilate into our bloodstream.

REHMANNIA: And it is one reason why humans have such high amounts of iron in our blood. And why, maybe my theory, that I haven’t proven in any way, but I believe it may be why human females bleed so much heavier than other animals, because of our excessive meat consumption. So the amount of iron we’re getting in our diet, we even have reservoirs in bilirubin that are iron based in our body, like just holding some of that iron. Cause we get so much. But if we go vegan, what happens is our genetics now are conducive to taking this much meat, women have formed a general pattern of monthly menstrual cycles. So now we need to genetically modify and slowly evolve toward vegan species, and we can do that.

REHMANNIA: But we want some help. And again, we have to thank the Ancient Chinese people because they didn’t eat red meat in their society. They considered animals with red blood to be higher on the evolutionary scale, and that they were sacred and they wouldn’t be eaten. And so the Chinese people did run the risk of getting anemic. And they found and classified herbs over the centuries that helped them avoid anemia, particularly the herb dong-quai, another herb, ligusticum. And being primarily a vegetarian who recently started to feel a need to start going back to a little bit of meat, but I really don’t like it when I eat it. I don’t feel good. I don’t like it, and so,

MARTIN: I’d like to just butt in here with the following, even genetically, you know, in my metabolic typing practice. We understand people to have endocrine dominance and the thyroid types do not do well on red meat. Only the adrenal dominant, do okay with the muscle meat, the red meat. And the pituitary, they do actually exceedingly well on the organ meat, which is like their kidney and liver and heart and tongue and stuff like that. And what’s interesting, it’s associated with this protein called purine, P-U-R-I-N-E. and purine is the richest in the red meats.

REHMANNIA: Yes.

MARTIN: But what’s also interesting is that those of us, like yours and mine genetics are quite similar in the sense that we both are the thyroid type. So we do quite okay on vegetarian, and if we are going to eat proteins, it should be fish and maybe some poultry, but not much.

REHMANNIA: That’s what I’m drawn to.

MARTIN: And what’s interesting, I joined my wife who is the hunter type, like she is totally adrenal dominant, so she needs to eat a lot of red meat. And so I thought, well, lazy Martin, I’m just going to have the beef when she’s cooking something, because what the heck, right? So I would eat it. It took only two years and I started getting gout.

REHMANNIA: . Wow. Wow.

MARTIN: So I had to go right back to being a straight vegetarian for a year to flush it out of my system and get rid of it. So anyway, going back, I do need Vitamin B12 because that seems to be the association with energy and a few other things that are related to eating red meat.

REHMANNIA: Yes. Right. Well, that’s why I designed the formula, because more and more people are choosing to move toward vegetarianism. And in your wife’s case, it’s actually sort of in a way, a bit ironic that women generally feel more of a need to eat meat. And that is because of the menstrual cycles that women experience during the fertility years. And that anemia, potential anemia because of menstrual cycles can carry on into postmenopause. And those women will feel they need to eat meat. It’s not the protein they’re craving, it’s actually the iron. And so you’ll find women sometimes at a certain time in the month, wanting, craving a piece of red meat. Well, in my research, and when I wrote my book Raw Chi, I determined that, it’s really like, don’t worry about it.

REHMANNIA: Go ahead and do that. You know, make sure it’s free range, make sure it’s lean, look for the marbleized fats. Avoid that stuff in there. That means that animal is sitting around and being force fed. So we can do it in a way where the animals were treated well and they’re healthy, and women can gauge, based on their own cravings, how much they need. But this formula, Rakta, contains herbs that are known to quote “build blood”, because as I said, the Chinese never ate red meat in their past. So they had to find ways to avoid for their women in particular, to avoid anemia. And unfortunately, they classified these herbs, dong quai, ligusticum. And then herbs that move blood like white peony root and salvia miltiorrhiza. These are really important herbs in our time because, as we move toward a more conscious species We are choosing not to harm other beings.

REHMANNIA: But it’s not only that, it’s the environment, the effect of overgrazing particularly the American West, since the 1800s has been disastrous for the land. And so there’s a lot of conscious reasons why we need to be concerned about the degree of the consumption, the amount of the consumption. Well then Rakta can help us make this transition, and avoid anemia. Now, women in reproductive years can develop anemia because of blood loss in the menstrual cycles. And the way to avoid that is through eating food that’s high in sunlight, we call Chi. So living food, how much sunlight is in a raw tomato, right? How much sunlight is in that American cheese on that hamburger bun? Right? . And so we look at what kind of Chi, sunlight, are we gathering?

REHMANNIA: And then the peptic enzymes, and it works to break that food down. Our body gets a break. And those enzymes and the food break themselves down. They get into the do duodenum where the nutrients are drawn into the blood as hemoglobin, but then the blood itself also needs iron ions, it infuses new iron ions. That’s important because iron is more difficult to assimilate into the bloodstream cause it takes more flame and more energy. So what happens with women in reproductive years is, if they’re experiencing heavy menstrual cycles, the blood is the carrier of chi. Now the blood may be low in quantity, so as the blood is coursing through the splenic arteries, it may not be, feeding the spleen itself. It’ll keep warm, keep the body warm. So this young girl may experience heavy menstrual bleeding with darker blood, cold hands and feet, lethargy, breaking out around the time of the period, loose stool, all kinds of issues like that.

REHMANNIA: This young woman could take Rakta, as a way of “building her blood in chi.” So it also has herbs that warm the spleen and move the blood. White peony root is very important. It’s a famous herb in helping women avoid cramping in menstrual periods. So this formula, I think, is really, really, really critical. And I’m really proud of it because I want to see us move successfully toward not necessarily a purely vegetarian or vegan race. If you choose that like you and I do, that’s great, but if you feel you need meat, okay. But to be able to start the process of becoming a more conscious species that is less destructive to the environment through the over consumption of meat.

MARTIN: Yeah. Great. Interestingly, that chlorophyll has a molecular structure that’s almost identical to the red blood cell or to the hemoglobin. Except at the center of the molecules sits magnesium, where as the hemoglobin at the center sits the iron.

REHMANNIA: Yes.

MARTIN: So it would follow in my head that eating really rich green things loaded with chlorophyll,

REHMANNIA: Uh-huh

MARTIN: Would be very helpful to build blood, but you also need to come up with this iron. And that’s where these herbs will, in combination with a diet that’s kind of rich in dark and green things. Will probably correct… Which is very common. I have so many clients asking, what can I get to improve my hemoglobin level or iron level? They’re taking iron infusions because they’re,

REHMANNIA: That is what I created Rakta for. I mean, so many people are dealing with many women and many people are asking for ways to get their iron right. The iron from green vegetables are high in iron, but that iron is, is called ferrous ferric iron, and it’s not easily assimilable in the body. Now, the reason why the heme iron from the cow is more assimilable is because the cow eats the grass and the weeds, ruminates all the field. And then it breaks down those green vegetables through about two weeks of digestion through about six stomachs. And that process of all that heat and combustion and rendering finally makes the iron, renders the iron into an easy state for us to metabolize, as we refer to as Ferrous iron or Heme iron. So when we try to eat the green vegetables, we’re not necessarily getting the iron out of them. The human transit time is too quick, and our digestion. That’s where I think herbs like dong quai and ligusticum may function, is in helping the body assimilate Ferrous Iron. Now, I can’t say that as a conclusive statement because the actual research on how dong quai works is still inconclusive, but it just seems to, because the Asian people have been using it for thousands of years effectively.

MARTIN: Yeah. We could easily just say, well, we don’t care that we don’t know how it works, as long as it does work. Not for me, right?

REHMANNIA: . Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. I don’t need to know how the combustion engine works exactly, as long as I can drive the car.

REHMANNIA: Yeah, exactly.

MARTIN: Likewise, here you have, you put it together, you know it delivers, what do I care about the mechanism of action and which atom gets replaced by what atom and what cascade.

REHMANNIA: Right. Well, the ancient people, they used their own intuition to understand what modern science is, proving they were right. They were able to tune in in other ways through their own antenna to the therapeutic value of this stuff and documented it over time. And I trust that ancient wisdom.

MARTIN: Yeah. Works great. All right. So these are the two new arrivals. You can find them at the life-enthusiast.com website and the brand RDT herbs. Or you will find the Rakta in the women’s health section. Well, I don’t know, maybe we should put it under iron as well. And the Spirit Jing. I guess you will find that in the protein concentrates, even though it’s not necessarily because it’s mostly carby, but we’ll put it there.

REHMANNIA: .

MARTIN: So, thank you. Thank you Rehmannia, thank you for doing the work you do. It’s just lovely.

REHMANNIA: Oh yeah. Thank you for selling my products. You’re one of the first to feature Rakta. Yeah. So this is great.

MARTIN: Yep. Great. Okay, people, this is Martin, Martin Pytela, at life-enthusiast.com. You can reach me by phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you.

REHMANNIA: Thank you.

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Podcast 455: Captimet & Electron Charger

It’s no secret that our overall level of toxins and industrial toxins have increased the last hundred years. With new technologies arising, chemical spill disasters, contrasting agents, pollutants in our water and food, we are now being exposed at an even greater level than we ever have been, affecting our health for generations to come tremendously. Spencer at Remedy Link has many proactive solutions to detox harmful contrasting chemicals out of the body. In this episode, he discusses his new product Captimet that helps turn fat soluble toxins into water soluble toxins, allowing the body to eliminate them easier. He also discusses his new Portable Electron Charger that among many other benefits helps break down crystallized metals to a smaller size, allowing your body to render them soluble so that you can dispel them out.

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MARTIN: Hello, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and today I have the pleasure to again, welcome Spencer Feldman from Remedy Link, remedylink.com if you want to go to his site. But we promote and stock Spencer’s products at Life Enthusiast, and we are really happy about the relationship that we have built and established. And I respect Spencer a lot because he’s gone through, well, a personal evolution that has him understand things that the people who are bound by limitations of their profession fail to see. Spencer Feldman, welcome to Life Enthusiast.

SPENCER: Nice to see you again, Martin.

MARTIN: Yeah. Would you say that you are able to see things that others miss?

SPENCER: You know, I think we all have our own particular genius and if you can find out what you’re good at, then you can be of the most service to the world. So I think where I am particularly well suited is, looking at medical issues with a scientific perspective that has not got the advantages or disadvantages of a traditional medical education.

MARTIN: Yep. Precisely the point. I remember 20, no, 40 years ago when I was having to analyze this, when I broke, my body was breaking and I was going to all the medical people, the professionals with the degrees and white coats, asking them, please help me because I have these symptoms. And all they offered was, well, let’s treat your symptoms. Not one of these highly educated people were asking, well, what is the cause of that? Where is the root cause here?

SPENCER: Well, I thought we could talk today about something that’s right along those lines. What we have is hopefully not the first of many, but possibly given the sabotage we’re seeing, industrial chemical disasters in Palestine, Ohio disaster. And that leads into… a lot of people are going to find themselves asking the question that you yourself asked, which is, why aren’t I feeling well? And what can I do to fix it?

MARTIN: Yeah. I mean, there certainly are multiple issues here at play. One of them is of course, the transportation industry as such. Why have they been allowed to lobby so effectively, to be engaged in risky behavior? And why is the society allowing this? I guess, my frame of mind on that is this, we are allowing the manufacturers and large corporations to internalize profits, but externalize risk. And unload the risk onto the society.

SPENCER: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: And here we are. Right?

SPENCER: Yeah. Well, let’s talk about Ohio, because I think it’s emblematic. I think the lessons we can learn about how to deal with that kind of toxicity are lessons that will be useful, whether you’re in Ohio or not.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm.

SPENCER: When you hear feedback or demands from the people who live in Ohio from those groups. What they’re asking for is testing, and they’re asking to know when it’s safe to go back. What I don’t, and they’re asking for financial recompense. And all of these things are obviously very important. What I don’t hear any of them asking for is therapeutics. Like, what do we do to get these toxins out of our body?

MARTIN: Yeah. They’re still angry and they just want to thump somebody for the wrong that’s been done to them, but they might not even have the understanding. And this, this has been lacking. I mean, my own personal experience was that I was made toxic by the industrial approach to things, and it was not being addressed. Right? Like, I just want to frame this in with this: the industrial revolution has taken us since the 1800’s through the coal and then the petroleum, and then the chemical, and then the plastic. And we are living in a world that’s been increasingly enriched, I’ll call it that, by biochemicals. And we have more and more chemicals, and we have established agencies like the EPA that’s supposed to allegedly protect us, when in fact they test nothing or very little. I mean, they have managed to ban five chemicals in the last 20 years, while I don’t know what 200,000 different chemicals are being used.

SPENCER: Hmm.

MARTIN: Well, anyway, so your point, let’s just return back to your point, which is well, okay, that’s all very nice. Oh, the world is on fire, but what do I do? Right.

SPENCER: Yes. I appreciate the politics and philosophy of trying to understand how he got here and how to prevent it, yet I think in the immediate, what do you really need, our action steps on how to treat it. So let’s talk a little bit about the Ohio disaster as an example. And there are a lot of chemicals that came out, where they did an open air burn of the polyvinyl chloride. Now you can burn these things in controlled conditions in an incinerator, where you can maintain the temperature at a point where it’ll break these toxins down to harmless things like carbon and nitrogen and oxygen. The toxins, as I understand it, that were released, weren’t toxic by virtue of the elements within them. There wasn’t like plutonium, uranium, mercury, lead.

SPENCER: They were toxic by virtue of their shape, meaning for instance, the dioxin has a very particular shape. The way the body works at a molecular level is its lock and key mechanisms, and shapes matter. So we’ll come back to that in a second. How all the toxins that are getting the most, that have the most potential for destruction, dioxin would be high on the list. And because they did an open air burn in uncontrolled conditions, the temperature likely went high enough to make a lot of dioxin, but not high enough to destroy it. Dioxin is a pretty simple molecule. And the challenge, there’s a couple of challenges with it. One, it’s mind bendingly toxic, you’re talking not parts per million, per billion. We’re talking parts per millions of millions. So it takes very little of this stuff to cause a problem. And the reason why we’re seeing so many dead fish and birds is because they’re excessively sensitive. Some, the range of sensitivity in birds alone is a thousand fold from one bird species to another. So when you see dead birds and fish, those are your canaries and goldfish in the coal mine. That lets you know something’s going on. And that’s your cue to get out, right?

MARTIN: Yeah. I caught a little piece. In Ontario, somebody on the Canadian side of the lake is saying, well, we’re downwind from this. And it’s been seven days of significantly severe headaches. And the environment here is just smelling bad. And we’ve seen this sheen on the water, and on the ground. So, a fair distance away.

SPENCER: Well, the other issue is a lot of people will have the idea that, hey, you know, this is a bad smell. It’ll come, it’ll go, this is a toxin. It’ll come, it’ll go. When a toxin is water soluble, it goes in and it goes out. And the damage it does is limited to the time it spends in your body, which water soluble, it’ll be mostly gone in a day or two, right? If a toxin’s fat soluble, and it sticks into the membranes and the nerves and the brain, that toxin can be there for life or a really, really long time. And so the people that say, oh, I’ve got a headache now, and think it’s no big deal. Well, the thing that’s causing a headache in you may never go away, or maybe, may leave at one or 2% per year or something obscurely small.

SPENCER: So, what we need to do is we need to learn how to take these fat soluble toxins and render them water soluble so you can urinate them out. And then dioxin is a fat soluble toxin. Right? So what I’ll specialize in is making fat soluble toxins water soluble, so you can urinate them out. Now, a water soluble toxin is still a toxin. It’s still going to damage things on the way out of the kidneys, the liver. So it’s not that it renders it non-toxic. It’s that some detoxes that I’m going to suggest render things soluble. So you can put an end to their time in your body and get to the work of repairing the damage they’ve done. Now, the way dioxin works is… there’s something called an aromatic hydrocarbon receptor in the body.

SPENCER: And normally, this is like many proteins, inert, it’s bound to another protein called a chaperone. And so it’s there in potential to be activated, but that activated at any point in time because it can get a little out of hand. And what happens with dioxin is it activates the AHR, the aromatic hydrocarbon receptor, knocks off the chaperone and goes inside the cell and the response becomes exaggerated. Think of it like a Bee sting to someone who’s allergic. Right? The body’s response to this hyperactivated AHR, is to generate so much free radical damage that it just sets the whole cell on fire from the inside out. And that’s why you see generations of births defect, because the DNA gets damaged. This is why you just see a massive amount of free radical damage inside the cell from this.

SPENCER: And there are people who are well-meaning, who are given a lot of bad ineffective advice on how to deal with this. And they’ll show you a bunch of studies saying, look at all these things, seaweed, chlorella or chlorophyll, Badia flakes, so forth and so on, that will increase or that will detoxify dioxin. No, they’re not. If you actually read the studies that are referenced, they’ll bind to it in the intestines if you eat some, so you don’t absorb it. But that’s quite different from getting rid of it once it’s already in your body. And at this point, the exposure is dermal and respiratory. It will get eaten as it hits the farmlands. And another year that gets to the grains and then that gets to the animals and our grains we eat and beans and the animals that eat them. So this will hit our food supply in a year or a half, depending.

MARTIN: I even saw a talk by some authority, doctory type of a person saying, oh, this is all no big deal. Don’t you worry about it. This is all water soluble. It’ll just disappear. It’ll dilute itself away into the environment. And don’t you worry,

SPENCER: Some is water soluble. Right. But if you see a sheen, you know when you see those pictures of dropping stones into the puddle, and a sheen comes up? That tells you it’s not water soluble. Right. That tells you it’s floating on the surface, that’s insoluble.

MARTIN: Fat on top.

SPENCER: Fat will do that. So that’s not water soluble. So there may be some in there that are water soluble, who knows how many chemicals we’re actually on the manifest, let alone created by the interaction of the chemicals with each other and the temperature. So, yes, I’m sure there’s some more soluble chemicals, but then there’s a number that aren’t. The issue with dioxin also is, there are chlorine carbon bonds in the dioxin molecule. Those are extremely strong bonds. They’re not breaking up, which is why this stuff is so persistent in the body and in the environment. You can’t oxidize it. You can’t break it down. There are some soil-based microorganisms that will digest dioxin. And with any luck, people will, in an ideal role, the EPA would negotiate a big firm to train car loads full of that bacteria.

SPENCER: Obviously we want to check to make sure there’s no unintended consequences of putting it into the environment, but start using those to remediate and break the dioxins up. That’s one idea. In any case. So now it’s in the body. And so one of the things, the advice is people will tell you to do certain supplements that will bind to it intestinally. Well, that’s not where we’re at now. Another piece of advice is someone once said, oh, you should do green tea catechins. And okay, there’s some more wisdom in this one. The flavonoids of the yellow things in nature, and a lot of plant substances can act as supplementary chaperones, meaning that when the dioxin knocks the AHR receptor chaperone, often the AHR becomes active, it then binds to green tea extract or binds to carotenoids, or binds to ellagitannins and therefore becomes inert again.

SPENCER: And okay, that’s a reasonable theory. But if you look at the math, you would need to do something like tablespoons of green tea extract, and I don’t even know if you could, without getting sick as a dog, to get a 50% reduction in the AHR. So that’s one of these things that looks great on paper, and then you do the math, and then no it didn’t really work out. Things like dioxin are metabolized in the human body. We can metabolize, we can break them down. I mean, they’re slowly metabolized by oxidation and reductive dechlorination reactions. But mostly, what the metabolism is, is to get them to become water soluble and you can urinate them out. And so we know that the body can do that with dioxin, with glutathione and glucuronic acid and likely other things we just don’t know.

SPENCER: So, in previous talks we talked about phase one, phase two and phase three detox. Phase one is when glutathione, sorry, when cytochrome p450 will either unmask or insert a polar functional group, but it means, it’s got a charge on it. Right. So that’s OH, SH, NH2, this is either going to insert it or unmask it on a toxin. And then phase two is when a conjugate, like glucuronic acid, glutathione, acetyl group, sulfur, something like that, binds to that polar group. Now it’s water soluble, still toxic, but of limited duration, you can urinate it out. Phase three means that the urination defecation process is clear. Right? You don’t want to be constipated while you’re trying to get this stuff out of you. Or you don’t want your bile to be blocked up, or you don’t want your kidneys not to be functioning well.

SPENCER: We carry phase one and phase two and phase three kind of protocol. Phase one and phase two is our Xeneplex product which you carry. The organic coffee, which is a recreation of coffee enema, stimulates cytochrome p450. So we get that first phase, and then it has all the conjugating elements, the glutathione which can’t be orally taken because it’ll be destroyed. Glucuronic acid, all those things for that. And then The Glytamins, which is another suppository you carry of ours. Then for phase three, we have The Glytamins product which you carry of ours to support the proper movement of bile and make sure the kidneys are supported.

SPENCER: Because remember, even a water soluble toxin is still toxic. So, for the people who are out there at this Ohio disaster or any kind of disaster, chemical disaster. I’m not talking metals, this is a different way to go. And we’ll get into metals again in a bit, three classes of metals. For those who have been exposed to this or something similar. I think having some glutathione powder in your house and a nebulizer, you can mix glutathione up with water, breathe it in.

SPENCER: Lungs are very sensitive tissue. There’s only a cell wall thickness between your lungs and your bloodstream. And so if you want to help your body get rid of the stuff you breathed in, inhale glutathione. And then if you can’t get a hold of our Xeneplex suppositories, go get a 60 cc catheter tips syringe, make a cup of organic coffee, let it cool down to body temperature mix in a gram or so of glutathione, lubricate the end and inject it rectally and hold it for as long as you can. And that’s something that, you know.

MARTIN: Powdered glutathione is going to be hard to come by these days.

SPENCER: Possibly, we could go through a short period of it, but it’s made in large enough quantities. And I think it would be wonderful if the government would stockpile glutathione kits, where they’ll just have a little sachet of freeze-dried coffee, 10 grams of glutathione and a 60 cc catheter tip syringe and have those. That they can immediately deliver to chemical…

MARTIN: Just imagine the comedians on nightly talk shows having a time with themselves explaining to us how we need to administer it. I can just see the silliness and how reluctant people are to go for suppository method. Right?

SPENCER: Yeah. It’s good to have some humor about this because it could be really easy to fall into despair about, you know. Right. Even in Vietnam now, there’s children born with cleft palates from the dioxin exposure from agent orange. So.

MARTIN: This is, we left in 1975.

SPENCER: Yeah. And we shouldn’t get tunnel vision about dioxin. Of course, It’s 40,000 times more toxic than, what is it?

MARTIN: How bad is this toxicity level anyway?

SPENCER: So the LD50, dioxins are mind boggling toxic, the LD50 for rats is 22 micrograms per kilogram and per Guinea pigs it’s one microgram per kilogram. Which means it’s somewhere between two and 60,000 times more toxic than cyanide. Right. For a human that would be about 70 to 1500 micrograms.

MARTIN: That’s sort of fentanyl class of exposure.

SPENCER: Yeah. I mean, we’re not talking milligrams.

MARTIN: No, but..

SPENCER: Like a single milligram will kill somebody. Right? It would be hard to see that on a spoon, what a milligram would look like. So if you want to know what dioxin does, go look up before and after pictures of Viktor Yushchenko, the Ukrainian president who before he died, said Vladimir poisoned him. Vladimir Putin arranged for him to be poisoned with dioxin. And we can watch the men age like 30 years in three days. So, the dioxins are a problem, we don’t want to get tunnel vision. They’re not the only thing out there. I mean, we’ve got, what else is in there? Vinyl chloride, ethyl acrylate, isobutylene, phosphagen, so it’s a lot of stuff.

MARTIN: I would like to broaden this, like yes, we have this Ohio disaster, right? And so the entire watershed of the river is in trouble and the environment north of and east of, that this fire that they voluntarily started. Unbelievable. I’ll just rant for a moment. I remember when the Fukushima radioactive incident took place. Right? And I was thinking, well, who is the engineer who in a flood zone put the backup power in the basement? They could have, when they constructed it, and it was Westinghouse who constructed it, they could have put those backup generators on the roof of the building at a level that the water would never reach. But no, they were so clever to put it in the basement, right? Which then, when it flooded, caused the power to shut down, which then caused it to melt. And 20,000 years later, we will have half life of caesium. Anyway, I’m just..

SPENCER: Whether this, things like Fukushima and Ohio are incompetence or sabotage, or just plain evil.

MARTIN: What does it matter, right?

SPENCER: We still have to know how to deal with it. There’s another train derailment just a couple of days ago in Ohio. So, having the ability and the assets on hand to deal with the chemical exposure, you know, in the old days, everybody would have activated charcoal in their medicine cabinet because that along with milk, are kind of like the universal antidotes. Right? So it’s time for us to update our medicine cabinet. Because the toxins we’ve been exposed to have become more powerful and more prevalent. More difficult.

MARTIN: That’s where I was headed with this talk, which I was wanting to say. This is an example of it, it happened there, and it’s an acute current blowout, but the overall level of toxins, industrial toxins, has been rising for the last hundred years. And it’s, I mean, glyphosate is another lovely example. Water soluble trouble. And we have more and more of it everywhere. So it’s just, you can be sitting in California thinking, well, yeah, but that’s Ohio. I’m okay here. Not necessarily, it may be coming your way. That’s where I’m headed with this, is to say, and you’re saying it right. Let’s all start getting number one, educated about the pathways and the cleansing methods and having our kits ready, and detoxing ourselves and our children, because of course, the next generation is born more toxic than the previous; it accumulates.

SPENCER: Yeah. Yeah. Wasn’t there something, maybe it’s in the Bible or American Indian tradition about the sins passing on for seven generations?

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Seven generations.

SPENCER: That’s correct. Maybe, if you think that maybe the toxins are diluted, 10 to 1 with each generation, well, okay. Maybe it takes that long to finally get the genetics clear again.

MARTIN: Or not.

SPENCER: So, we’ve talked about chemicals. Let’s talk about metals. We have a product Medicardium, it uses my favorite chelator EDTA, to bind metals. When you’re trying to get rid of metals, it’s the same principle as getting rid of chemicals. You want to find something that will render the metal water soluble. And the metals have a tendency to, so what happens is that the toxic metals, they look like things we need. So lead looks like calcium, goes in the bones, and mercury might look like selenium and so forth and so on. But because the charge is different, they can get stuck in the places that are trying to use these things. And what the metals are is they’re catalytic. They don’t get destroyed in the process of causing their trouble. They switch back and forth between oxidation states, and then so doing tear electrons off things.

MARTIN: Yeah. It’s sort of like you have a brick that you’re trying to break down with green peas. The body’s defenses are like the green peas trying to hit at this impenetrable thing.

SPENCER: Yeah. So these metal toxins, you could call them the world’s simplest machines, right? Because their mechanical function is to tear up electrons, but they’re perpetual. They never stop. As long as the metal’s in you, it’s ripping off electrons. And so how do you get rid of them? And you have to make them water soluble, which can be a little tricky because once they crystallize to a certain size, it’s very difficult to get something soluble at a certain point. We can talk about electricity, allowing electrons to do that in a second. So what we want to do is we want to urinate out these metals. Now the metals, all the cells have little transporters on them to let things in and out. And if the metals go inside the transporters and get stuck there because they’re the right size to go in, but the wrong charge to get out, it’s like somebody crazy gluing your refrigerator door closed and your toilet seat down.

SPENCER: Your house will become unlivable in very short order. So that’s what happens to the cell. We have to get these things out. And like I said, we have Medicardium, which we use with most metals. But there are two caveats, there’s two things you don’t want to use EDTA with, that’s mercury and very heavy elements like gadolinium, at the bottom of the periodic table. So for mercury, you have to be mindful because you have to use a chelator. It grabs onto the mercury and won’t let go. And EDTA will let go, it’ll let go of mercury for Se3 and chromium. So, you could grab onto the mercury with some EDTA, and then it gets knocked off and moves someplace worse. Now, a little bit of mercury toxicity, it’s not going to be, initially it knocks off. You just grab it again later. But if someone’s really heavily mercury toxic and a lot of people who are sick, have mercury toxicity and don’t know it, then you really want to use a mercury chelator and, you know, contact me or I’ll give you…

MARTIN: I must tell you, I’m a living example of mercury toxicity, and I was successful in managing it with Zeolite. I know that you have your reservations about it, but it sure as anything it worked for me.

SPENCER: Sure. So the issue, the two issues with Zeolite is one, it absolutely has to be acid washed before you take it. It has to be clean, otherwise it’ll have metals in it from the Earth. The second is it doesn’t get into the bloodstream. Right. It works in the intestine. Well.

MARTIN: If the particle size is right, it will.

SPENCER: Okay. So, right. If you have got the right particle size, a lot of Zeolites, they’re too large to make it into the bloodstream. And so it works great in the intestines, and the blood passes through there. Zeolite can be done properly. It depends on where you’re getting it from, and I’m sure you have an excellent source.

MARTIN: Yeah. I believe that we have a way to do it, because I have enough cases now to confirm that it is working.

SPENCER: Great. Now, the other 10 challenges, what do you do with the ultra heavy metals? And that would be the F-block series, the things in the bottom of the chart, you know, the Hafnium, the Gadolinium, Terbium, Dysprosium, Erbium, all these things, uranium.

MARTIN: Depleted uranium munitions.

SPENCER: Right. And you know, another name for these is that they’re all sometimes called rare earth metals. And we weren’t really exposed to these until these last 20 years. Because they’re in the ground and nobody had any use for them. But now, they’re part of all our smart technologies, our cell phones, our Tesla cars, computers. You know, they’re all using these rare earths. So we’re exposed to rare earths now. And the issue is, these are very big atoms, and most chelators aren’t big enough to grab onto them and get a really good grip. So, I mean, imagine if I give you a marble to grab onto and you can hold it in your fist, that marble’s not going anywhere. If I give you a basketball to hold onto with your hand, you can hold onto it a little bit, but it can easily get knocked out. Right? So that’s the issue with these chelators. You need to find something big enough to grab onto these giant atoms.

MARTIN: Yep.

SPENCER: And the main one that people are going to be exposed to is something called gadolinium.

MARTIN: Yeah. It’s actually a contrast agent used in medical imaging. Right?

SPENCER: Yeah. So there’s 40 million MRIs a year in the United States. A third of them I think use imaging, contrast agents. That’s where they inject gadolinium in, because it makes it easier to see on film with your radiologist. It makes it easier for the imaging person to see the contrast of what they’re looking at. So, 40 million MRI’s a year. A third of them with gadolinium, that’s about 16 million, and six of the seven gadolinium contrast agents use bad chelators. They use what are called linear chelators, right. So you’ve got this giant basketball of gadolinium ion, and they’ve got like a little bit of twine that they wrap around it to grab on. Right. Six of the seven of them are like that. And then one of them is macrocyclic, the seventh one will actually, it’s called DOTA, and say if you don’t need an MRI, and if you do, that you don’t need a contrast agent.

SPENCER: And if you absolutely have to do it, get the DOTA gadolinium, because that one is a macrocyclic meaning it wraps around it. And DOTA is actually a cousin to EDTA, it’s like the stretched out version of it. It’s just widened a little bit, to be able to grab on properly. Okay. So what happens in people who get the contrast agent is one, most of them are getting the gadolinium with a chelator that will bounce, that will let loose the gadolinium. So now there’s free gadolinium in the tissue. Two, if there’s any extra phosphorus in the bloodstream because they happen to be high in phosphorus or maybe they just had a pop soda, a soda drink, a soft drink.

MARTIN: All it takes.

SPENCER: At the hospital, or in their tissue, they drink a lot of soda and it’s in their tissue. That high phosphorus will displace the gadolinium. And also if their kidneys aren’t really doing well, then it’ll take longer to get rid of the stuff. And that’s longer for the gadolinium to knock off the chelator. And so now you’ve got gadolinium in the body, and if you ever want to have your heart broken, go look up gadolinium deposition disorder on YouTube and listen to the stories of the people that have gadolinium poisoning. And you can see.

MARTIN: Not funny.

SPENCER: And of course, not everyone who gets gadolinium toxicity is going to get it to the same degree. So, for some people, their lives are utterly destroyed and ruined by it. Some people don’t get enough gadolinium in them to stay around that it bothers them.

SPENCER: And then a number of people will have it where it knocks them down. But they never connect the dots and they never realize that Oh, Oh, huh. Ever since I got that contrast IV, I have had symptom X, Y, Z and ABC have gotten worse and all these, wow, you know, I never thought about it that way, but yeah, that was the beginning of when it all started going downhill. So gadolinium detox, so how do you get rid of gadolinium? So there is a chelator called DOTA. Like I said, it’s a version of EDTA. And so we have made available for people who want to support the body in clearing gadolinium. We have a product called Captimet, that should be available. C A P T I M E T for like captive or capture metal.

MARTIN: Captimet.

SPENCER: Yeah. Trying to capture metal, trying to grab the metal, capture the metal. And so this is of course not just for gadolinium. That particular chelator bonds to lots of heavy types of metals, but it’s the same issue with mercury. If you try to chelate out gadolinium with something that’s not going to grab onto it very well, and there’s only one thing I know that does, then you run a risk of having a gadolinium move around too.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah, it’s sort of like picking it up and carrying it half a block and dropping it again. Right? Not good enough.

SPENCER: . Right. And especially since the body may have in its wisdom stored that someplace, as in the least harmful way it could. Wow, I gained five pounds of body weight after that MRI, that’s weird. Yeah, because the body was creating fat to store the gadolinium away from your internal organs. And then if you put it out of that fat and get it into your brain, well now it’s a bigger problem still.

MARTIN: I still have in my vivid memory, when I tried to use homeopathics to deal with my mercury toxicity. Mm-hmm. And it was successful in pushing it around.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: I was walking around, it felt as though I was walking under a glass dome. My sensory perception was shifting and distorted in a bizarre way. And I remember one curious effect, was that I could not tell whether I was urinating or not.

SPENCER: Because yeah, it was damaging your nerves and your sensory apparatus.

MARTIN: Yeah. The sensory apparatus was affected, which that was, you know, at that point I was in a corporate boardroom suit and tie kind of thing. Imagine the fun incidents when I would go to the washroom, do my business, shake, zip up. Oh no, it’s still running.

SPENCER: Oh, wow. Yeah.

MARTIN: Like that.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: Yep. Anyway, so I’m just saying that as it was being displaced and running around my physiology, it was truly creating weird, weird stuff. So I’m intimately familiar with this level of neurological effect.

SPENCER: So, if you’ve ever had a contrast agent in your life, I think doing a detox from that is a wise thing to do. Now we spoke a little while ago about what happens when these metals crystallize? Right?

MARTIN: Yeah, they cluster up, they create structures that are larger than individual atoms.

SPENCER: Right. So once you cross a certain threshold in crystal size, crystals become pretty much insoluble. And so what you have to do is break them down to a smaller size so that you can then render them soluble so that you can then urinate them out. And so when we make our electron charger, with the pulse feature. And the idea is that, it’s a piezo electric phenomena, and a piezoelectric principle states that if you squeeze a crystal, you get electricity. But it also works backwards, if you pump electricity into a crystal, you get vibration. And so if you’ve got the right frequency of electricity, if you’ve got the electricity hitting the crystal in the right way and vibrates it, it can shatter it, and then now you cross below that threshold, where now it can become soluble again.
So, I’ve been using the electron charger for three years. I’m only now at the point where if I use it or don’t use it, no big deal. But I couldn’t get enough of it for the first few months, and it was at least two years before I could go a day without it and not feel it.

MARTIN: Yeah. I’ve used the electron charger for about six months every day for several hours, like two, three hours. And then came the day when my body said, you’ve done it.

SPENCER: Yep. Yep. That’s when your battery, your internal battery monitor hits a hundred and you’re like, okay, I’m full now. So then I thought to myself, alright, well I don’t want to go in this cycle where I charge myself up, and then I spend the other 23 hours of the day discharging. So Martin, when was the last time you were barefoot on the ground?

MARTIN: Uh, I’m afraid it’s been a couple of years.

SPENCER: Right?

MARTIN: Yeah. I walk on the beach whenever I can, but I’m actually not too resilient. The bottoms of my feet are actually unused to gravel. I can handle sand, and I’m really bad at crushed rock.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: So . Anyway, the answer is not very many of us practice barefoot walking.

SPENCER: Right. But you know that, that is how all animals are designed.

MARTIN: Yeah. We are that way too. We used to be wearing leather shoes on bare skin. Right.

SPENCER: Yeah. And the leather would transmit the electrons. So I thought to myself, well I don’t want to go through this thing where I’ve got my electric charge. I feel really good. And then I got 12 to 24 hours before I do it again. You know, walking around in synthetic clothes with insulated shoes and on electronics, I want to be barefoot all the time, but that’s not realistic. I can’t do that. The whole point of being barefoot is being in contact with the planet, because the planet is this giant source of electrons. Hmm. Well, could you put a planet in your pocket? And I know it sounds a little crazy…

MARTIN: But, engineers will think of a way.

SPENCER: Okay. Right. So, what I did, is this is the Portable Electron Charger, and it’s got a little dial on it. So it goes from zero to three hundred volts, which goes a little bit higher than, normally it’s about a hundred odd volts per meter on the Earth, difference between the ground up. So if you’re six feet tall, the differential between your feet and your head is around two hundred volts and that creates a current, and this microcurrent everybody’s spending thousands of dollars on microcurrent machines. Barefoot, you are automatically a microcurrent machine. So I made it go up to three hundred or anywhere in that range. So if you wanted a little extra kick, you could get it. And if you’ll notice there’s a metal clip on the back, and what that does is the electrons actually come out of the clip.

SPENCER: And so you put it on your belt with a metal clip, against your skin, and it’s feeding you electrons as if you’re barefoot. And if you’re a lady and wearing a dress or a skirt and you can’t do that, there’s a little port, and you can run a cable through it that will go to either a wrist or an ankle bracelet and ground you that way. So now, I’m grounded when I’m driving my car. I’m grounded when I’m walking in the office. I could even have it while I’m sleeping if I want. So now, I can be barefoot all the time and still wear shoes.

MARTIN: Right on. And so do you dial it up to the halfway up all the time? Or how do you practically use it?

SPENCER: Just how it feels for you. I put that there for people that might be very sensitive and want to play around with it. I mean, I could have just simply said, hey, it’s going to be at two hundred across the board, but it didn’t take that much more work to put a potentiometer in there and give people a little bit of control over it.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Clip against the belly. Very good. Yeah.

SPENCER: Well, I think that’s about all I have for you today, Martin.

MARTIN: That’s awesome. Thank you. Alright. Spencer Feldman. Thank you very much! This is Life Enthusiast, Martin Pytela here. You find us at life-enthusiast.com. The phone number is (866) 543-3388. And thank you Spencer.

SPENCER: Sure thing. Take care, Martin.

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Podcast 454: Notice of Liability

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MARTIN: Hello, Life Enthusiasts. This is Martin Pytela coming in with the Life Enthusiast Podcast, and today I have the distinct pleasure to introduce to you, Cal Washington. Cal comes back to us, or to us with an illustrious and lengthy career. In my mind, Cal is one of the heroes of this society. You’ll soon find out why, but before anything, let’s just say hello.

CAL: Oh, I’m happy to be here, Martin. Honored and I’m looking forward to our conversation.

MARTIN: Yeah. My story, as you may know it, is wrought with great many problems. You know, the classic hero who first starts by being totally broken, and if you overcome the brokenness, then you’ve become stronger. If it doesn’t kill you, it makes you stronger. Cal is one of those people too. Cal, would you just tell, why do people need to care about the message that you have worked so hard to be able to now deliver?

CAL: Well, if we continue on the path that we are as a whole, as a whole society, as mankind, we’re headed for destruction. You can see it in all aspects of society. And so something has to change, and it has to be a pretty drastic change on all fronts. Health, wealth, social interactions, education. We need a wholesale change, because we’re headed down the toilet as far as, if you just look around, it’s not looking good. There’s good things happening, but yeah, we have to actually change something and it’s got to be big changes.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Interestingly, like I have been helping to educate people about their own personal health, which is great. Right? So, on Titanic, I get to tell you that you should choose this food over that food because you’ll be healthier after that dinner. But we are on a Titanic. Cal’s here to talk about what we need to tell the captain before we end up in the ice field.

CAL: . Well, yeah. Well, we need to tell the captain to, we’re taking over the ship is what we really need to do. And we don’t want to head for these icebergs, there’s a better way. So a part of what I discovered is going to be part of that change, among other things. It’s not just, what we’re doing is the be all and end all, but it’s an important piece. We have to change some of our thinking especially, and then take our position, on earth that is ours by our birthright. Because we’re here and because we are mankind. So.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is an important bit. I don’t know if it translates immediately into the thoughts that, that you need to understand, but when you heard me talk in 300 or 400 different podcasts about voting with your wallet, about taking your money where it belongs, this is one of those places where what Cal’s going to talk about next is where the rubber meets the road. And when you personally get to withhold your support from things that do not deserve it, and instead turn it toward where it’s needed, you will see change. First small, but incrementally large. And it doesn’t take much. Only 20% of us have to do this uprising or this change, and the whole world will follow us.

CAL: Absolutely. And the more people that can understand that, the better. Because it doesn’t take everybody, it just takes a critical mass, and that’s all it is. And the rest will follow. They have to. Yeah, it’s crucial that we figure out what’s going on and then take action based on that knowledge.

MARTIN: Yeah. So let’s break it down. You have a whole website that you’ve built, right? What’s it called?

CAL: inpowermovement.com

MARTIN: Is it.org?

CAL: Both. We have both domains. Yeah. So.

MARTIN: Okay. In power, as in I am in power.

CAL: . Well, you too. .

MARTIN: Alright, so what do you do there? What do you offer?

CAL: We’re teaching this hidden jurisdiction called Law Merchant. That’s the crux of it. They hid this ancient system of commerce from, they took it basically out of history. I mean, it’s in history if you look for it, but they stopped talking about it. So we’re unaware of this jurisdiction, but it’s still operating in full.

MARTIN: About when?

CAL: About the 1700s is when they fused it with the Common Law. And then they just pretty much stopped talking about it. They don’t teach it at law school, and it just kind of went mostly unnoticed. But once you see it or become aware of it, you’ll see how prevalent it is. It’s just everywhere. So they managed to hide this from us, and then because of our ignorance of what’s going on, we ended up being taken advantage of.

MARTIN: Yeah. You know, this probably is best explained on a live example in a parable, right? Could you try a specific example in life, how this is reflected?

CAL: Well, for those of a certain age, when credit cards first came out, like the chargeX and American Express, you would go to your restaurant, you would have your dinner, you would put the charge card down and the waiter would take it away. He would put it into a machine, sometimes at the table. Sometimes he would take it away and bring it back, and he would put a piece of paper on top of that. Then he would run a thing over there, and then he would bring it back, and you would sign it.

MARTIN: Yeah. At the imprint, the physical imprint of the plastic card.

CAL: So on that card was some information, your name, because of the machine, there was information about the restaurant you were at and its address. And then he would write in the amount of the dinner that you spent, and then you would sign it. And there would be a date on it as well from the machine. As soon as you have those elements, you have just created a bill of exchange. In ancient commerce that was considered money. They were writing their own money.

MARTIN: Like a contract, right?

CAL: It’s more like a credit, based on honor, if you didn’t have silver or gold with you, you could write on a piece of paper. I owe you this amount of money, and it had to have certain things on there, which I just explained. It became money, and that piece of paper would pass around in the open market. And then at any point in time, whoever had that piece of paper could go back to the originator and say, I want my silver. But a lot of times it didn’t. It just kept passing around.

MARTIN: Okay?

CAL: And so this is how the wealthy got very wealthy because they were writing money on pieces of paper and nobody was ever coming back and getting the silver, because they would just pass it to the next person and pass it to the next person. So what has happened in real life with that credit card thing, is that you created money on the spot, but you didn’t know it, and they took advantage of that situation. So the restaurant does not go to Visa or MasterCard and get money from them. You got to really understand this. They just take that piece of paper and deposit it in their bank account, and their bank account went up by that much as if they had put in a hundred dollar bill. They put in this, for the same amount. Visa gets noticed that this has happened, and then they charge you the whole amount back plus interest. So they’re getting money for nothing and they’re charging you interest on it because you created money on the spot, but you handed it over and you didn’t understand what you were doing. And that’s why this ignorance.

MARTIN: Yeah. I guess this is the sleight of hand where I think I’m borrowing money from them, but in fact they are, they didn’t have to lend me anything.

CAL: Anything. You created the money on the spot because of this ancient commercial system that is still operating. They just stopped talking about it, but they’re still running it. And we are all ignorant of what’s really going on, and we get taken advantage of.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: So there’s a real world example.

MARTIN: Okay. And so taking it to today’s practical something, so every time I use my credit card, I still think that I’m borrowing money here.

CAL: But you’re not.

MARTIN: I’m actually issuing money.

CAL: You’re issuing money and then the credit card company charges you the full amount plus interest for brokering the deal, for doing it for you because you don’t understand what you’re doing.

MARTIN: Yeah. And the restaurant owner as the merchant pays a fee to the service provider.

CAL: Exactly. So they make money coming and going. You’re just handing the money every time you use one plus interest if you carry, if you go past 30 days.

MARTIN: Yep. Okay. And so your proposition is that we what?

CAL: Well, I’m teaching you this, so that you understand what’s going on in your daily life, but then we take it a step further and on certain agendas, including the smart meters, the 5G and the forced upon us these are also offers in commerce. They’re using the same ancient law merchant system.

MARTIN: So the principle then is, you make me a proposition, an offer that I choose to accept or not.

CAL: Exactly. But if you go silent in this ancient system, you have agreed. So they just put a lot of advertisements out there about all this stuff. And in my opinion, they’re weapons because they’re causing a lot of harm. And so, we’re agreeing to this. So what I’m saying is what we need to do is engage in that commercial transaction and get on top of the contract so that now we’re in control of the contract.

MARTIN: Okay. So the tacit agreement by my simply not protesting constitutes consent. So, that’s sort of like the negative option, right? Like when I go to a particular website and they have this tick mark on it that says, I hereby accept an invitation for your newsletter. If I don’t un-click it, I’m getting the newsletter.

CAL: That’s correct.

MARTIN: The negative option, right?

CAL: That’s right. So it’s, it’s called tacit agreement and it’s, and it’s done between merchants, and so they turned us all into merchants with a birth certificate, which you probably don’t want to get into right now. But anyway, they did that for that reason. So that merchant law applies to each one of us.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: And then, but they didn’t tell us how it worked. So we end up being taken advantage of left, right, and center. So what we’re trying to do is teach people this system and then get them to take action on these weapons that you’re deploying, using commercial means. And we can get them into a contract where they owe us a daily fee if they continue with these agendas.

MARTIN: All right. So I guess you will put the purveyor of service on the notice somehow. Yeah?

CAL: That’s right. It’s called a notice of liability. We give them notice that we feel, it looks like you’re participating in a worldwide agenda to reduce the population or some other kind of control. And we think that this gadget you’re putting on our house or around our house is dangerous. For this reason, that reason, that reason, all kinds of health reasons and other reasons. And we do it in an affidavit form. And then we say, we will agree to your smart meter or your 5G or your [bleep] if you can prove that they’re safe.

MARTIN: So send me your documentation.

CAL: And swear to it. It has to be done in affidavit form.

MARTIN: Oh, so there has to be a counter, what’s the word..

CAL: Rebuttal of our claims on affidavit.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. They need to be able to prove to me that what I just asked of them is wrong. If they can’t prove that it’s wrong, it must be right.

CAL: Then they have tacitly agreed. So if they go silent, again, they’ve tacitly agreed. Because they started this whole tacit agreement process. They made the first move. We’re doing a counter move.

MARTIN: Right on.

CAL: So we catch them in their own trap or, we feed the snake.

MARTIN: Yeah. The system itself.

CAL: Yeah We feed the snake its own tails and it has to eat itself.

MARTIN: Right on. Okay. Beatles, The Yellow Submarine, Mr Nowhere Man.

MARTIN: I don’t know if you people remember this, but it’s phenomenal imagery. This thing just goes sucking out everything into itself until there’s nothing, just void. The only thing that remains is itself. And the thing finally finds its tail and sucks it in.

CAL: Yeah. So that’s what we’re doing.

MARTIN: Okay. Okay. Okay. Nevermind Martin’s sidebar. So that’s great. So, is it working? How do you know it’s working? Tell me about that.

CAL: Well, what happened in my personal life, I ended up in court on a divorce thing. And I learned the hard way that this, everything was commercial, including the courts. So I tried, you know, defending myself using statutes and laws and all that. And I spent a lot of time reading and staying up till, working during the day and then staying up to two or three in the morning, just trying to learn, like trying to get myself through law school without going to law school. And nothing was working until I stumbled onto commerce. And my first commercial move, the judge ran out of the room.

MARTIN: Ran out.

CAL: Ran, physically ran like not walked, ran. And it shocked everybody in the room. So we thought we might be onto something here, and then we kept repeating it. And then over a period of a few years of all this strange judge behavior, I realized, no I’ve got the answer, I know what’s going on now.

MARTIN: Got the answer. So the divorce thing ended up going your way?

CAL: Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. And so you have had many other court appearances that have gone your way?

CAL: Yes. And then I also had a lot of people stepping down from government positions. Same thing as the judge running out of the room. Now I’m sending to, top politicians in Canada, and they’re all leaving their posts. Not all of them. I shouldn’t say that.

MARTIN: So when you send someone an affidavit style paperwork, that tells me okay, let’s just role play. So I’m the politician and I have been issuing regulations telling people how to behave, and you now send me a letter saying, I have a point about your regulation, and I request that you hereby provide me with a proof that your regulation is based on a verifiable fact. And I ask my deputies to provide me with that information, and they will come back to me and say, no, we haven’t any.

CAL: Exactly. So then what we do in part of that notice is, if you can’t provide this to me, then it’s deemed that you don’t have the authority to do this or whatever it is. And then if you continue to do this, and especially arrest me or force me to do something, I’m going to charge you X amount of dollars per day. Do we have a deal? If you go silent, you have agreed to this.

MARTIN: How many days? 10.

CAL: You can give whenever you want. But three is the minimum. But I usually give 30 days.

MARTIN: Okay. So we give him the 30 days’ notice to come and get us the proof that his behavior is based on fact. Okay.

CAL: Right. If he doesn’t provide it, here is now the new contract. You don’t have the authority to do this. And if you force this upon me, then I’m going to charge you X amount of dollars per day.

MARTIN: And you yourself, as the petitioner, have the standing to put any number you want on it?

CAL: Absolutely.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: That’s what they do.

MARTIN: Does it have to be reasonable?

CAL: It should be reasonable. It should be. You know, I’ve seen some documents, where they have numbers to the 12th power, which I don’t even know what that is. I don’t even know what you call that, but well, it’s not, it’s not negotiable.

MARTIN: Six power is a million. So this is million of millions. So that would be quadrillion.

CAL: Quad. Okay.

MARTIN: Quadrillion. Yep.

CAL: Yeah. So that’s not negotiable in practicality. Yeah. So you want to keep it within some reasonable range.

MARTIN: So I will charge you my daily wage or my daily maintenance, like a thousand dollars a day isn’t unreasonable, right?

CAL: Absolutely. $10,000 or $50,000 a day because there’s a tort of as well, because there’s harm being caused by some of them, like in the case of the smart meters.

MARTIN: Oh. So I could be speaking on behalf of my family too.

CAL: Absolutely. And we say that, so it’s for you and all your dependents, and your dependents are defined as anybody in your direct or indirect care.

MARTIN: Yeah.

CAL: And doesn’t have to be a family member.

MARTIN: Right. Very well. Okay. So, apparently you are offering effective help to people to do this.

CAL: Yes.

MARTIN: All right. And this is found on the, inpower.

CAL: inpowermovement.org or .com. Yeah.

MARTIN: So when we send a person there, they will become a member. They’ll probably part with some money. Yes?

CAL: Yes. It’s around $15 a month, US funds.

MARTIN: Okay. Are you at all familiar with the private member association type of thing? Is that how this is set up?

CAL: This is how it’s set up. It’s actually more than a PMA. It is a church domiciled in the US protected by the first amendment of the US Constitution.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: It’s a PMA underneath the constitution directly. No laws can be made regarding it.

MARTIN: Uh-huh. So this church, church doesn’t have to believe in God, church can believe into whatever, right?

CAL: Yeah. It doesn’t specify in the constitution what a church is. Just says, establishment of religion.

MARTIN: Okay. So we have a religion of believing in personal freedom?

CAL: Yep.

MARTIN: That’s a pretty cool religion. .

CAL: Yeah. So these things, I’ve found over the years, with help, I’m not the be all, end all, but yeah, it turns out that Congress can make no law regarding an establishment of religion, first amendment of the…

MARTIN: The separation of church and state remains.

CAL: That’s right.

MARTIN: Right. Okay. So you are pretty confident that you’re unassailable from a constitutional perspective. Right. And then the second layer then is when you mentioned the PMA, the people may not have heard of it. I’ve contemplated often whether I could get Life Enthusiast to function as that. But of course, many people are just confused by the Amazon experience or the Walmart experience. I don’t want no membership, nothing. I just want to buy your stuff.

CAL: Yes. But if you look at how the world works, if you understand who the Freemasons are, that’s a PMA, that’s a private membership association. They can speak very openly in private, and they don’t have to tell anybody anything. And so there are some benefits to being part of something that is considered private as opposed to public. You can do a lot more inside there, including health type things, because most of the public things, you have to have a license in order to operate in the public, in the private, you do not have to have a license.

MARTIN: Right. I think I’m gonna have to hire you to help me.

CAL: There’s a lot of people in that boat, because they’re being de-licensed and, and kicked out, and the farmers are all being attacked. And so we need to have a parallel system set up. At Impower we’re at least a part of that. We might be able to cover the whole thing, and we’re definitely able to create the currency for it.

MARTIN: Yeah. That’s awesome. Yeah. The words that came to my head were, people ask me, are you a doctor? And I say to them, I’m not a doctor. And if I were a doctor, especially a licensed doctor, I would be only telling you what a licensed doctor can tell you. I am a free person and I’m able to tell you whatever I want. That’s right. However, I’m limited by regulations. So for example, in my health terrain, I cannot treat, prescribe, diagnose, any of that. But I can teach you about how your body works.

CAL: Right.

MARTIN: Right. So I guess for you, you’re not a financial planner, are you?

CAL: No. I was, I mean, I was for a while, and so I know a little bit about that, but yeah, it’s more these words like diagnose, you know, you just can’t use those words. So words are very important, especially in the public. But in the private you can do pretty much whatever you want, depending on your PMA and where you live in the world.

MARTIN: Well, so let’s tell people more, a few more examples of what this means. So you mentioned that you focused on three areas so far, the unauthorized or unwanted bodily assaults, which can be anything. But popularly known as the jab, the household electronic assault, which was the smart meter. Right. And then public electronic assault, which is the 5G antenna everywhere.

CAL: And these things are all related. So, they’re really one thing. They just look like they’re three, but they’re working in concert. The jabs, part of what they can do with that is they can put nanoparticles into your body. And those can become what are known as the internet of bodies. And that’s an IEEE designation. You can look it up. It’s an actual thing. And there’s lots of different gadgets that fall under that category.

MARTIN: Yeah, I remember reading the patents that was issued to Microsoft about that.

CAL: Yeah. Yeah. So this is a real thing in the real world. They want to have the internet of bodies, so they want to have all the bodies hooked up to the internet. And they do that through the 5G. Now, the 5G can also, depending on what frequency is coming out of that thing, can cause different things to happen in your body, depending on the resonance. And so at a certain frequency, your skin will burn because of your hair follicles. Because they get them to resonate. They can get your heart to resonate, they can get oxygen where it’s not ”breathable”. It becomes unavailable to our body. So even the air, it’s, and I’m not trying to scare people.

MARTIN: Do you have studies to point to that actually? And where would I reference that?

CAL: We have it in our document. I don’t have that off the top of my head.

MARTIN: No, I didn’t expect that. But if you can point me to somewhere where I can verify that that’s…

CAL: You can probably just do a search engine on it. It’s more available than you think. We’re just not looking, when we went and researched 5G and even [bleep]. When we got to the university level, they were speaking very openly about all this.

MARTIN: Yeah. I remember listening to Dr. PhD, Martin Pall, who was explaining the, for example, the calcium channel. No, the voltage gated calcium channel, which gets triggered and that when it’s triggered, the body goes into this fight or flight signal mode and anxiety goes up and inability to sleep goes up and inability to settle and control thoughts and stuff like that happens.

CAL: Yeah. It’s all verifiable. So, that’s the 5G, the smart meter, the same thing, it’s wireless. So you’re polluting your house, plus it’s also spying on you. So it’s a data collector. So it’s collecting all the data that’s available through your smart devices, your smartphone, your smart computer, your smart fridge, your smart stove. Your smart tv, it knows what you’re watching. And with the TVs, they could actually even probably monitor you through that, through that smart meter.

MARTIN: I wonder if you can volunteer even further and bring into your house Alexa and Siri and Hey Google.

CAL: Yes.

MARTIN: Right. I mean, that’s a voluntary information sharing device that you put in the middle of your home.

CAL: That’s right. And all it’s doing is spying on you. And this is how they’ve done it. They’ve done everything through commerce and through advertising and make it sound like it’s a really good thing. And we’re agreeing to all of this. We’re actually wanting it, but it’s actually weapons to destroy us.

MARTIN: Oh, okay. So I guess we need to create awareness that there is a problem. How do we outline to people that they should just try and wake up to this? Like, are we just cuckoo for cocoa puffs here to try and tell people that this is not friendly, that this is in fact really going to suck you into a matrix, that you’re going to have a hard time getting out of?

CAL: Yeah. You have to tell people, that’s the only thing you can do. I mean, there are a lot of people who are hypnotized, in my opinion. And just can’t see, like they’re kind of deluded. Especially around [bleep] can’t figure out what the so-called, died suddenly syndrome that’s happening. That it’s not related to the vaccines. I’m not sure how you can’t make that correlation or at least ponder it. But some people just aren’t connecting those dots.

MARTIN: No, it couldn’t possibly be. I know that the people that are having a hard time with it are the ones who say it’s not possible for our good leaders to be this evil or this ignorant to allow this to happen.

CAL: That’s right. But unfortunately, the fact is, they are.

MARTIN: I think there’s more ignorance and the evil is kind of concentrated in some places, right?

CAL: It’s concentrated in more places than you think. But ignorance is definitely a part of it. And we have that in our document too. The document is to teach people who are ignorant, you are now not ignorant. And also to flush out those who pretend to be ignorant using plausible deniability, we flush them out too. Sorry. You can’t pretend like you didn’t know when we put it right in front of you.

MARTIN: Yes. Very good. Okay. So the person who has taken the benefit of the membership at your site, what do they get?

CAL: They get to use the documents. We don’t charge for the documents, we don’t charge for anything else. But it’s a membership. You have to have.

MARTIN: You have to be part of the movement.

CAL: Yeah. You have to, in order for it to be an actual PMA, you have to, everybody pays dues if you’re a part of anything else, you pay dues, like any club. So that’s part of it, in order to make it so it’s an actual thing. Plus we need funding to be able to roll out what we need to roll out. And we’re not charging a lot. It’s not a money-making endeavor. So you get all the documents in an automated builder, because we put the documents out just analog and a word document years ago in it. And we had a lot of problems with that. So we learned that we can’t do that. So we have an automated builder that will reduce the mistakes that are made, but you can also track exactly who you sent to, how much your daily fee is. And you know, where you are, your mail, we can track everything that’s happening so we can prove that you sent to that person and all that.

MARTIN: Oh my god, I just had an illumination. So, okay. So let’s just say that I have become a member. I have sent 10 letters out and eight of them got tacitly accepted. So I am now defacto sending bills to these people who have consented to be charged.

CAL: That’s right. And now going back to that credit card thing where you got the cha-ching.

MARTIN: Yeah.

CAL: You are now keeping the piece of paper.

MARTIN: Well, all right. But in order to collect on a bill, I need to be able to collect it.

CAL: Well see, we have the idea that we have to collect it because this is not money. And that is, and therefore I need to collect. The BILL Is The Money. And that’s the part that we have not been trained into thinking. When the restaurant took that piece of paper, it acted as if it was a hundred dollars bill. It doesn’t look like one, but it acted the same in the same fashion.

MARTIN: Yeah. I understand the concept of the IOU written. Cause the IOU is signed and therefore it’s the bearer of the IOU can ultimately take it to the issuer. Right.

CAL: To the debtor who’s on there. Because anybody can issue it. Yeah. So the respondent will be named as debtor on this instrument. And you are issuing it and you’re keeping it too. That’s another thing we’re doing. We are, um, we’re not telling you to send it to us. We, we have everybody keep your bills. We will record them, but it’s decentralized. Nobody can grab all this wealth and manipulate it in any way. So it’s decentralized.

MARTIN: Alright. But I still go back to, okay, so I now have a whole bunch of paper that has the equivalency of somebody having an obligation.

CAL: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: But can I get them to perform?

CAL: We don’t need to. Like I said, those bills are just passed around. So.

MARTIN: So, okay, but are they not just worthless pieces of money paper?

CAL: Nope, not in their system. This is the ancient law merchant system that they stopped talking about.

MARTIN: Okay. So let me say it this way. So, okay. So I have now figured out how the minister of health for state X or province Y has obligated himself or herself to me to the tune of $10,000 a day.

CAL: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: I take this paper and I take it to my bank and I buy a house with it.

CAL: You could, if you had the connections to do that, they’re supposed to do it, but they won’t. But here’s what will happen. Here’s what has happened in recent times. There are other so-called currencies out there right now. Digital type currencies. We can issue that based on the whole amount of everybody’s bills and issue it back out equally. If we get enough people who are trading with these, like going to a health practitioner and saying, I will take these as payment, we have just created a parallel system.

MARTIN: Yeah. I mean, if somebody will treat it as equal to money, then it is money.

CAL: By law it’s equal to money.

MARTIN: It just needs to be recognized. Right?

CAL: That’s the problem. We don’t see it that way. We’ve been trained again away from it. That’s part of the training you have to go through to be able to see this, because it doesn’t feel right to us, that you can just write on a piece of paper and it becomes money. But it does, that’s the thing. So I’m not saying I agree with it, this is their system. So we want to take their system, use it against them, take the wealth away from them, and create a parallel system where things are a lot more equitable, not controlled from the top down.

MARTIN: Interesting.

CAL: Yeah. And the time is now and the time is like, the time is ripe for it. Like the opportunity is here now.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, they have handed us the opportunity by creating technologies that are based on a false premise, right?

CAL: That’s right. So again, we’re taking what they were thinking to use for their advantage. Now, we’re going to be able to take it and take it away from them and, and use it for all of humanity.

MARTIN: Alright.

CAL: All mankind.

MARTIN: Well, I think that’s about as explained as it’s going to get. Right?

CAL: There’s a lot of details, but yeah, you got it.

MARTIN: Well, do you want to dive into something? Like making it real, making it obvious, making it something that somebody who has not had an exposure to this? Like can you tell a story of something happening somewhere that kind of is well translatable to world experience?

CAL: Well, when I was doing it, um, I was owed 300 million when I came out of … I was held in jail for 60 days.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: Pending trial.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: So I was held without bail. So I wasn’t sentenced, I was just held because they wanted to make sure I came to court. So through that, a promissory note was put in. So that was just written by my friends on a piece of paper, bond paper, nice paper, but still paper. And they put it to the court, the court took it.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: Then, on my last day she gave me one day in jail and 59 days credit. So I said, in commerce, the credit has to equal the amount of the promissory and all because you’re trying to balance the books here. And she says, okay, how much was it? I said, $300 million. And she, you know, went like that. And then we tried to collect. So when we got out, we wrote a document, we wrote a couple documents, they didn’t work. And then we wrote a document that did work because they panicked and they had to reconvene the legislature. They put it in the newspaper that they lost 300 million in one day. And didn’t say why, but it was right at the time that I sent this document. And so through all that, I ended up going after the federals. Because this was all provincial. And when I sent it to the clerk of the Privy Council, he’s like the top unelected official. He’s really running the country. And his previous job was CEO of the IMF.

MARTIN: Oh.

CAL: Yeah. A big wig.

MARTIN:

Yeah, serious connected guy.

CAL: Yeah. He’s in the room with all the top people in the world.

MARTIN: Rulers of the world.

CAL: Yes. He knows these people personally because he is running one of their main banks. So now he’s running a country called Canada behind the scenes, not hidden, but he’s actually calling the shots.

MARTIN: So he’s essentially the guy with the strings that he attaches to the ones that are standing in front of the microphone. Yep?

CAL: Exactly. But he still does press conferences and all that. Like he’s still the clerk of the Privy Council, which means the Secret Council.

MARTIN: Okay. Privy as in private.

CAL: Private, yeah. So on the day that he got notice, he did a press conference in the morning, nine o’clock, and the mail got delivered around 11:30, by noon he left his position. No notice. This is a connected guy.

MARTIN: He retired?

CAL: Without notice.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: So this is real world. It was written up in all the papers. Nobody could figure out what made this guy run because they said, who could make a guy like this run like that? Right. What was it? And they tried to figure out what made that guy run like that?

MARTIN: So by giving up his position, he gave up his liability?

CAL: He thought he was, or that was his..

MARTIN: Move.

CAL: His idea. All I’m saying is, he knew more about commerce than I did, and he ran.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: On the day he got mail. So when you add up all the coincidences that I had, it’s not a coincidence. There was just way too many of them. Like 20.

MARTIN: So the judgment that you had, the 300 million, that’s not in your bank account, is it?

CAL: Nope. I never got paid. But what I’m telling you is they reacted to it. Now I took all of that and I put it on the Queen’s lap because they all swear an oath to her.

MARTIN: Yes.

CAL: So I escalated now to the queen. So, and then brought her oath into it. So the whole thing is, what I learned through all that is there is a whole hidden system. And I know it because I’ve seen enough top people run from this that they know about it. And so I’m trying to get everybody to get involved and they’ve left themselves wide open with these, with these agendas, which are weapons being deployed as in a commercial way..

MARTIN: Yeah. Weapons masquerading as commercial products.

CAL: That’s right. Exactly what they’re doing. So that’s the beauty of it. It’s a perfect storm. And we have the opportunity to do this en masse. Like you said, we only need a critical mass of this doing it. And it has the potential to bring down the system as it is.

MARTIN: I’m running out of questions. Should I have asked you something else?

CAL: No, that. Well, I think we’ve got it.

MARTIN: Okay.

CAL: You got it. I mean, you really understand this.

MARTIN: I do understand it and yet it’s very difficult for me to live it. Because I’m straddled between my personal desire for freedom and my limited commercial resilience, because I am exposed. Running a business as I’m running, I cannot really be picking on fights that I cannot win.

CAL: I’m telling you, you can win though.

MARTIN: Right. But this the thing, right?

CAL: Yeah. And so, setting up a parallel system, if you understood that, like you wouldn’t have some of the problems that you’re having now, or some of the issues. I wouldn’t say they’re problems, but you’ve got to be very careful once you’re in a whole other system, that you can be a lot more open and be a lot more, have a lot more going on as far as running your business, right? So because everything’s done in the private, so there is an opportunity there as well to get away from that whole system where they can’t touch you. And what I’m telling you, in the United States, Congress is clear language. Congress can make no law. That means no law in respecting an establishment of religion. That’s once you’re in that protection, they can’t make any laws. That means none.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Your power is not here.

MARTIN: Well, okay, I’ll play the devil’s advocate here. But they do control soldiers and they do control police and they control thugs that they can hire and so on, right? Like there have been plenty of people of various importance who have been either harassed or outright eliminated.

CAL: I can attest to it. I’ve been pepper sprayed from this close. I had a SWAT team at my house. They beat up my brother by mistake. They mistaken identity, almost beat him to death. I’ve been there. I’ve been through all that. I understand it 100%. I’ve been arrested, I’ve spent time in jai. In jail, I was put in harm’s way at least twice.

MARTIN: Just exposed on purpose. Yeah?

CAL: Yep. This is your cellmate and this cellmate is a,

MARTIN: Violent offender

CAL: Violent murdering offender who doesn’t, who will go off at the, and then he didn’t go off and then they change his meds to make him go off. So I’ve been there, I know what they’re capable of. I’m not ignorant of this. I’m not trying to blow smoke up people’s. I’ve been through that, I know. But I prevailed, because I refused to back down and they started running from me. And I’m not outspoken in the public. I don’t have a lot of YouTube things out there. I keep everything in the private as much as possible, but they can’t tell me, and I’m very open with what I say, and they don’t come after me.

CAL: Like they leave me alone. And if you ever wanted to be left alone, I’m teaching you the way to be left alone. Because I think that’s the main thing, is they’re everybody’s business and they stick their finger on the back of your neck the whole time. And sticking it in the other hand in your back pocket. So what I’m trying to teach people is we can get out of this because I got out of it, and I’m not anybody special. So we can all get out. You just got to use the right methods.

MARTIN: All right. So I’ll say it this way, people, you have been listening to me about health and wellness and health coach and whatever, because I have earned it. I worked hard at learning what works and what doesn’t despite the pronouncements from the mainstream, the media, the organizations that control it and so on. Because many times they’re just wrong. Sometimes through ignorance and oftentimes willfully. So I’ll just try to do the transference. Here’s Cal Washington with information about how law and finance works and how you can learn. I guess I’m going to, how to operate in the world, but not to be of it.

CAL: Right.

MARTIN: Cal, repeat the website again.

CAL: www.Inpowermovement.com or www.inpowermovement.org.

MARTIN: All right, thank you very much. This is Martin Pytela Life-Enthusiast.com. (866) 543-3388 I’ll see you on the other side.

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Podcast 453: Health & The Economy

On today’s podcast, Martin has the honor and privilege of interviewing George Edward Griffin. Ed is an American lecturer, filmmaker, and author of two very well known books- The Creature from Jekyll Island & World Without Cancer – The Story of Vitamin B17.

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MARTIN: Hi, everyone. This is Martin Pytela for a Life Enthusiast podcast, and today I have a rare pleasure of introducing to you Mr. G Ed Griffin. He comes to us with a pedigree that you would envy. After all, he’s been on the planet for a long, long time, and he has had the time to earn his chops. Mr. Griffin, welcome to Life Enthusiast.

G ED Griffin: Ah, well thank you for inviting me. Yeah. I’ve been around for a long, long time. That’s true.

MARTIN: . Yeah. Well, just for reference, birth year 1931. That makes you at least 20 years older than myself. So.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Well.

MARTIN: You would have to know at least four universities more than I do.

G ED Griffin: Well that really is kind of the trick of life, isn’t it? It’s to learn what it’s all about. Learning is the most gratifying, and probably the only meaningful thing we do in this life is to learn about something. And of course, then the other half is if you discover that what you learned is not going well for you or for mankind, or for the universe or whatever, wherever your mind happens to be. Then the next object is to do something about it, and that’s where it really gets interesting. Because first of all, you have to figure out, well why am I here and what’s my purpose? And how did all this come about? And it takes a long time. And then the first thing you know, you wind up being as old as I am, and you say oh my gosh, I think I got it, but it’s too late now. You know, you’re out of time thinking about it. And my advice would be for younger people to don’t think too much about it. Just get on with it and do it.

MARTIN: Yeah. I remember somebody saying something about planting trees. The best time to plant a tree was 40 years ago. The next best time is today,

G ED Griffin: . Yeah, that’s right.

MARTIN: Right. Well, my mother recently passed and I was thinking, contemplating on that, why is it that nature is so wasteful when she was at her most knowledgeable, most wise, most having all of this knowledge together and so much to give and then boom! It’s over.

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: And so I’m contemplating my own shortness of time. Right? Yeah. What do I have left here and what sort of mark do I want to leave?

G ED Griffin: Right. That happens as you get older. When I was a young twig I never thought about that. I never thought I would get old, I guess. Because that’s the truth of the matter. I always looked at old people and I said to myself, gee, I’m glad I’m not one of those people. I would hate to be an old person. I’m glad I’m young. I never thought that it might sort of change, or I understood that of course, in my mind. But in my heart and in my attitude, I really thought I was going to be young forever. Whatever that meant.

MARTIN: Yeah. I remember at 25 feeling bulletproof and immortal.

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, then there’s this one thing that I remember you mentioned some time ago, which was the crusader gene. Care to talk about that a wee bit?

G ED Griffin: Well, yeah. That was a big event in my life. It goes way, way back to actually 1960. I remember the year, that’s the day I woke up or took my first red pill, as they’d like to say it today. Prior to that, I was just a young guy. I was climbing the corporate ladder. I was all wrapped up in myself and my family. Nothing wrong with being wrapped up in your family, but it was all about, how am I looking? Am I making enough money? Am I impressive? Am I cool? Will I have a lot of money someday? Will I have an apartment in New York up at the top, or one of those penthouse structures? Is my car good enough? Maybe I needed a better car. I was all about that. How am I looking?

G ED Griffin: And I thought that was what life was about. And then I ran into some literature, which for the first time in my life caused me to think about things other than that, other than materialistic things. Things that had to do with objects and conditions that … I had no interest previously in life, such as history. What’s our heritage? What is our obligation to a future generation, if any. What’s this future generation stuff? We’ll all take care of it ourselves, you know? So I was involved in that, totally. And then I read this little pamphlet, and it kind of shook me. And I thought, my gosh, something is happening out there and I don’t like what it is. And I guess, I’m the person I’m waiting for to come along and save me from all of this . And that changed my whole life. And I occasionally described that as saying I all of a sudden realized I had a crusader gene. Because it started to vibrate, and it surprised the heck out of me. But ever since then, it’s never stopped vibrating. So I guess it was always there, and it just took a little while for me to get it tuned up and ready to go.

MARTIN: Hmm. Would you say it’s somehow the willingness of taking on a cause that may appear hopeless in doing it anyway?

G ED Griffin: I think that’s definitely part of it. That comes a little bit later. It came a little bit later for me because as we were just discussing a moment ago, when we’re at that age, everything is possible. There’s nothing that’s impossible. We’re men of steel, and if we can conquer the world, if we just figure it out. So in the beginning, the idea of not succeeding was not a dominant idea. But then, of course, , as I learned more, and I saw how far this process of decay of civilization and our culture and our heritage has gone. And how much the enemies of liberty and humanity have placed themselves into positions of great influence and power. I began to think wow, maybe this is going down and I’m going to go with it. But that didn’t, that thought never crossed my mind until much later in the battle.

G ED Griffin: But it made no difference. And that’s your point. It didn’t make any difference. Well, this may not turn out well for me, but at least I’m part of a process that by that time, I figured out was transgenerational. That it wasn’t just about me and, and my retirement and my family. It was about the rest of mankind and all humanity. And not just the next 20 years, but the next a hundred years, the next 500 years, the next thousand years, and so forth. And once I got that picture, I was content to go to bed at night, even thinking that I may not see victory in my lifetime. Because I could smile with the idea that today I put one more brick, a big sturdy brick in the foundation of this thing we’re building for the future. And the idea that I was building something that’s going to outlast me, it was exceedingly gratifying.

MARTIN: Yeah. As you’re saying it, I’m thinking of the builders of the gothic cathedrals, year 1100 or something like that. And they’ve designed it, and they started building, and it probably took three generations to finish, right?

G ED Griffin: Oh, at least that, yeah. The idea that we’re building something for the future. And I remember we’ve said this enough times probably, the difference between being young and old, but one of the things I remember when I was still quite young in this battle is that the people that I looked up to as having knowledge about all of these things that I did not have, all of them were older guys. And they were saying, well Ed, don’t be so anxious. You know, it took many centuries to get where we are today, and you’re not going to turn this all around by the next election. And I remember thinking to myself, oh, yes I am! . And I was thinking in terms of two years and four years cycles, we can just get somebody in the White House, the man on the white horse. That’s how I was thinking. Yeah. Like so many young people. But now I’m one of those old guys saying, yep this is transgenerational. And I’m glad to be a part of that.

MARTIN: Awesome. Yeah. I’m reminded the reason you and I are meeting is of course, our mutual acquaintance Babry Oren.

G ED Griffin: Yes.

MARTIN: And his Folium. And there goes one of those kinds of things that seem to be worth getting on the bandwagon with, I would like to acknowledge him for that, and, and carrying the flag. And something that started back in 1987, and here we are 35 years later, and we’re still needing this thing. Right?

G ED Griffin: Yeah. More, more than ever. Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: . Yeah. What do you think of the Folium?

G ED Griffin: Well, I think it’s a gift from nature, gift of creation. It’s, my feeling has changed over the years on this as well. Back to the younger phase when I was, I thought I knew everything, but realized now I knew nothing. But in those days I thought, well, like being old, it’s just something that some people are fortunate. They’re not old, they’re young and other people are unfortunate. They were born old, I guess. And I’m glad I’m not going to ever be old, because I hadn’t thought anything through, believe it or not, I really had that attitude pretty much. Well, along with that attitude is a parallel one, which is that I believe that I was one of the lucky ones that was healthy. Now, if you were unhealthy, it was just a matter of luck. Some people are unhealthy, other people are healthy, and oh thank God I’m one of the healthy ones.

G ED Griffin: It never dawned on me that I had something to do with preserving my own health and creating my own health. I thought, well if I ever got sick, well that’s what they got doctors for. I’ll just look one up in the telephone directory and I’ll say, hey doc, I got it a little problem. I’ll come in, you fix it okay? I never thought it was my responsibility to be aware of health and the process of disease and anything about bacteria and viruses and immune systems and vitamins and minerals and all these things. No, that’s for the doctors to worry about. Well, now I have quite a different view. And Babry’s formula with the pX series, plays into that quite well because his stuff, I’ll call it stuff because it’s a big mixture of things, as far as I can tell, almost all of it, if not 100% of it comes from nature.

G ED Griffin: Nothing comes from a test tube. And I’ve learned over the years to be very, very leery of any kind of medication that comes from a test tube, because to my observation, almost all of it, maybe a hundred percent of it is toxic. The body is not designed to take the chemicals that are being put into our medicines. And the idea of course, everybody knows that, is that well, we have to run little risk. I mean this person is sick, they’re going to die. And if we don’t take care of their cancer, let’s just use that as an example. If we don’t use chemotherapy to poison out the cancer, he’s going to die anyway. So the trick is how do we kill the cancer just before we kill the patient with the chemotherapy, you know? And usually they don’t succeed. The actual cause of death, the actual real cause of immediate death is the chemotherapy or the radiation or something else very toxic. This is modern medicine. This is western medicine. When I finally came to the realization of that, which was another epiphany, another red pill in my life, and it changed my life completely. I think it’s probably the reason I’m here today at age 91.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. What’s important truly is of course, as we are now living in the industrial age, industrial society with its rising and accumulating levels of toxic stuff in the air, water, food, everywhere. Taking it out of the human body, which is a natural accumulator, because we don’t have a very good design to get rid of toxic things. Then getting the external help from something like the Folium is really useful because taking the toxins out is going to allow normal function to return.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. That’s the old line that these things probably don’t heal. These things that we find in nature are not healers, per se. What they actually do is to get rid of the blockages to healing. And let the body do the healing. Yeah. Restore the body’s potential back to its full capacity to heal. Because we have a cut, it bleeds for a few minutes, and then the first thing you know it stops bleeding. Well, we didn’t do that. It stopped bleeding because that’s the body’s function to clot. And first thing you know, we’ve got a scab and no more bacteria can get past the scab. It’s a miracle process. We can see it on our hands, and it happens in our bodies and our brains, everything. And so it’s the body that heals. It’s not the medications.

MARTIN: Right. So, have you used the product for some time?

G ED Griffin: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I guess for at least 20 years or thereabouts. If I have to put a number on it. Yeah. I’ve used it, and I’ve seen it used by people that needed it more than I. I had a young lady working for me for quite a while. It was my assistant, and oh, she had terrible cancers all over her body, because she had been, before she came to work for me, she was living in an area where there was a nuclear meltdown here in the Los Angeles area up in the hills. They had the first nuclear reactor, it actually was up there. Nobody knew it. And they had a meltdown. And they covered it up for years.

MARTIN: It did not make the news, did it?

G ED Griffin: No, it didn’t make the news. Eventually it did, of course. But by this time, there are a lot of people that paid the ultimate price. And she was one of those that went up into that area and downwind from it to do hiking almost every day. A little walk in the hills where the air was fresh and clean, right? . So she’s up on this hillside, not realizing there’s a nuclear reactor up on the top of the hill, and it blew. And all of this dirt and radioactive stuff came down. She breathed it into her body. She got it into her eyes and into her system. And when she had her blood tested for heavy metals, it just was like causing a geiger counter to bend the needle. She was loaded with the radiation. And so she went on this Folium pX and the reduction was marked. It was, I hate to put a percentage on it, but my recollection is it was about a 90% or more reduction of radioactive residue in her system, just from this simple Folium pX. It’s amazing.

MARTIN: Yeah. Wonderful. So, as you’re just saying, it reminds me that you actually had done quite a bit of research into cancer in your day, right?

G ED Griffin: Well, yeah. I wrote a book on it. And that was an accident too, I suppose. As I told you, what my bias was that if I ever got sick, I’d just call a doctor and, and pay his price. He’s the guy that fixes me. Well, it turns out that one of my best friends at that time was a doctor. And I had this opinion about him. I thought, I’ve got a good friend who’s a doctor. If I need a good doctor, it’s easy. I just call him on the phone and he’ll be out. Well, it turns out that he called me on the phone, and he wanted to have a meeting, and we did. And he needed some help because he was in trouble with the medical authorities. He was using a substance from nature, not from a test tube, but from nature in the treatment of cancer.

G ED Griffin: And he was having amazing success with it. And then the minute that the medical authorities found out that he was using something that didn’t come from the pharmaceutical industry, that didn’t have FDA approval, and they threatened to take his license and shut him down. And that’s when he called me and said Ed, I need your help to help me write an article for the newspaper or a magazine or something so I can explain how this substance works and the kind of positive results I’ve been getting, and get these guys off my back so I can get back to work and saving lives. So I said, sure. His name was John Richardson, by the way. He was an MD in the San Francisco area. So I said sure, John. I’d be glad to help. Let’s spend a day on it, and you show me what I need to know, and I’ll help you write the article. Well, little did I know what I was getting into.

MARTIN: This was the idealistic days of believing that Richard Nixon said that we are going to wage the war on cancer that he actually meant it.

G ED Griffin: Yes. That’s exactly where I was coming from. I thought, this is, the minute people find out that there’s something in nature that is saving lives at a 3000% higher rate than chemotherapy and radiation. Why, they’ll be glad to hear it. . No.

MARTIN: Well, the people would be glad to hear it, right?

G ED Griffin: Yeah. But they never heard of it, because it would be prohibited. The newspapers wouldn’t carry it. The medical association condemned it, unapproved treatment, it said. Well, it was true. It was unapproved. It was unapproved and they tried to make it sound that there was no proof because it was unapproved. They said, there’s no proof. Well, the proof was in the living people walking around that were well, who should have been dead otherwise. So anyway, I didn’t realize how much voltage was in that wire I was about to grab hold of. And that was the beginning of quite an education for me, talking to doctors like John Richardson and the discoverer of this substance called amygdalin, at least the inventor of it, in it so far as it was used in the treatment of cancer. His name was Dr. Ernst T Krebs Jr.

G ED Griffin: And he was not an MD. His father was an MD, but he was a PhD, on and on and on. I got to meet all these big brains that understood all this stuff, and I had to try to absorb the knowledge from them. Fortunately, I had some time, I spent a few years on that project, and I was able to come up with the book: World Without Cancer, the story of Vitamin B17. And I was kind of frightened at the beginning, because that’s not my background. And I thought, boy when they get hold of this book that I’ve written on a matter like this of life and death, and they’re going to find all kinds of errors and mistakes and shortcoming of my knowledge, they’re going to make a fool out of me. But it never happened because it turned out that the research was correct, and all the technical data was correct.

G ED Griffin: And never really got any serious pushback except denial. It’s just the medical profession said, well, it is quackery! And if you ask them, well why is it quackery? Well, it’s quackery because it’s unapproved. And it was a vicious circle. Anyway, I’m perhaps wandering too much on this. That was my introduction to the health world. And I realized, well my golly! If I ever got cancer, and I went to an oncologist, a typical oncologist. He’s going to load me down with everything that’s toxic. He’s going to try and kill the cancer just before he kills me. And that’s the way it worked. I didn’t know that. And so it was a good thing my friend, Dr. Richardson was not in that category. And so that was an awakening for me. And I mean it sincerely, if it hadn’t been for that episode, I probably wouldn’t be here today because it allowed me to be skeptical, properly skeptical of cures that come out of a test tube.

MARTIN: Hmm. Yeah. I’ve had a similar experience myself when I discovered the cure to fibromyalgia. And first I had to learn that the word cure was forbidden and I couldn’t use it.

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: Second, I had to learn that if the FDA owns the rights to the word cure, mitigate, prevent, treat, and if I were to use any of those words in connection with any one thing, it defined it as drug, and drug had to be tested in a double blind study against itself or something else. And these studies of course, they were about 250 million dollars to get it from not known to known. And who’s going to invest 250 million into studying something that is natural, unpatentable that anybody can just extract from nature. Right?

G ED Griffin: That’s it. Once you understand that issue right there, everything falls into place.

MARTIN: Yeah and so once you click. Anyway, so when I discovered the cure for fibromyalgia, I wanted to share it with the world. And people that get this, typically women, suffer greatly. And so I would tell them, I know the answer to this, and they would say, well, if this was the real answer, why is it not in the mainstream? Why don’t I read about it in the newspaper?

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: You have to be lying. You have to be a quack. You have to be trying to cheat us out of our money. You cynical prick.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. It was a psychological game and you couldn’t play the game because you didn’t have enough money.

MARTIN: Right. So what I am wanting to say with this little tirade is that here’s an example of a researcher with impeccable qualifications who can confirm for you that a discovery can be sidelined with this phenomenally effective method of ignorance. It’s as if the American Medical Association were like an elephant, and we were like a fly or a bird that would be trying to get something done, and the elephant just rolls over and just says, I don’t care about you.

G ED Griffin: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: That sort of attitude. Right? Like they ignore us quite effectively. Right? They just shut us out of the public discourse, out of the news, out of the whatever we now have on the internet. Back then it was the print radio tv.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Right. That’s right.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. Like your World Without Cancer book. I don’t know, how many copies do you think you sold?

G ED Griffin: I’m guessing about, probably 600,000, something like that.

MARTIN: Right. And considering that about 35% of people in America die of cancer, it should have been about a hundred million.

G ED Griffin: . Well..

MARTIN: Right. No. I’m just saying it for the effect to say that this book should be the most famous thing. Because it’s a very popular issue. Dying of cancer is not fun. And it happens a lot.

G ED Griffin: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: Right?

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Well, that’s true. It’s because the pharmaceutical industry is the big advertiser on media. And so none of the networks, none of the major channels are going to do anything that upsets their money flow for advertising. So they just play the game, and they pretend like your information doesn’t exist, or they’ll go all the way and portray you as a quack, because that’s the official story. Yeah. It’s this old story and it works so well every time. I remember when my friend Dr. John, who fought the establishment all the way. One day they raided his office and they found this substance in his possession. You’d think it was dope or something. He’s got much more dangerous things than that. This is something that grows in grasses and seeds.

G ED Griffin: This is not something that comes out of the Devil’s cookbook, . And anyway, they found Amygdalin. And then where did they get it? Well, it came out of Mexico. Oh! That means it was probably smuggled into the United States, which it wasn’t by the way. There were people that would just bring in quantity so that it could be used on the patients. So by the time they got in the newspaper, it was “Local doctor is pushing illegal smuggled drugs on cancer patients who were dying like flies.” You know, stuff like that. And I remember when they came and raided him, of course the people that were conducting the raid, notified the press ahead of time, so there’d be lots of press coverage. That’s what they were doing it for.

G ED Griffin: So they were there at his office before the police arrived and ready for the show. And of course they covered it with lots of photography and video, and you turn on your TV that night and you see a picture of this doctor. He’s a wonderful man, most principled guy I’ve ever met. He’s walking out with hands behind his back and handcuffs being pushed into a police car. And everybody thought he was a drug dealer or something like that. And I remember talking to people shortly after that, they’d say to me, did you hear what happened to Dr. Richardson? I said, yes. They said, it seems so awful. I mean, he seemed like such a nice person..

MARTIN: And he was a nice person.

G ED Griffin: And he was a nice person.

MARTIN: He remained a nice person.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. But by the time they got through scrubbing him through the media, he was a drug dealer and a thief, and killing people for money. And that’s how it works.

MARTIN: Yep. And then came your next lesson, right?

G ED Griffin: Yes.

MARTIN: Then came the lesson about the real cause of it all. Haha which is the, Rothschild said it. Rothschild said it well. If you give me control over money, I don’t care who writes the laws.

G ED Griffin: Right. That’s right. Mm-hmm. .

MARTIN: Yeah. I’d like you to sort of explain to the audience just how it really is out there that well, what makes this world go around?

G ED Griffin: Well, the answer that first comes to mind is money, of course. But let’s notch it down one level deeper.

MARTIN: All right.

G ED Griffin: What is money? Money is power. They say money and power are interchangeable, but it’s not quite true in my mind, at least. Because the only reason money is sought after is because it represents power. it’s power over other people. It’s the power to retain the services of others. So the more money you have, the more people you can return their loyalty and their services. You can hire armies, you can buy politicians easily. If you’re making them money. So that’s why money is so important to people. But money isn’t bad in itself because it can be used for good things as well as bad things. But unfortunately, in the real world where we live, I mean, some of the most evil people in the world have spent their lives becoming some of the most wealthy people in the world. And they have found that there are certain industries that make that easy.

G ED Griffin: And the two most profitable, or the three most profitable industries are dominated by the same dynasties now. And those three industries are healthcare, Munitions and money or banking. And the same people, if you look deeply enough, are actually astride all three of those industries. So now we’re talking about power, total power over the human race. And with that money, they’re able to control the media, and the educational system, which means that the stuff that we learn, the information we get on our news programs and things like that are all controlled. And I don’t care how smart you are or how virtuous you are, if you get false information, you’re going to come to false conclusions about which side of an argument is the valid side. So this is what we’re up against. And money, as you started to say, is close to the root of all of this. Because it enables a very small number of people to dominate the majority of the population of the world.

G ED Griffin: So that’s what we’re up against. And I didn’t realize that either. I was naive about money. I didn’t think much about money as a young guy. I thought, well, I’d like to have more of it, and that’s about it. How do I make more of it and keep more of it, and then spend more of it the way I want to. I never thought about who controls it, who determines how much is made, who determines how much interest is paid on it. Who determines the quantity of it, when it’s released, who handles it? All these things. I never questioned because I thought, well I think there’s something called the Federal Reserve System. And that’s a government agency, isn’t it? Well it isn’t, but I thought it was. And surely a government agency will look out for my best interests. I don’t have to know about things like this. I don’t have to know about that technical stuff. They’ll take care of it for me. Another huge mistake, you know? You’re referring to my stumbling into the story of the Federal Reserve System and the central Banks of the world. And yeah that’s about as close to the core of Ultimate Power as you’re going to get.

MARTIN: Yeah well we should mention the title, in fact, well, the Creature from Jekyll Island is the title of the book. Is it purchasable? Where do people, where can people get it now?

G ED Griffin: Oh. . Well, yeah. We ran out all of a sudden here a few weeks ago, not a few weeks, a few months ago actually. And we were told that the result of this covid nonsense and all the supply problems that the paper wasn’t available to reprint. So normally it takes us about two, two and a half weeks to make a printing of a book like that. And we’ve gone through, I don’t know, 80 some printings, a lot of printing. It’s amazing. But all of a sudden we had to wait two or three months for the next printing. So we’ve just gotten them back into stock now. But prior to this COVID nonsense and all of that funny business about squeezing down the supply lines and stuff like that, we were able to put out a new printing in a couple of weeks time.

G ED Griffin: And I think that as of now, considering the foreign printings as well, because we do have, to my amazement, publishers in other countries have wanted to publish the book as well. So we have editions in German and French and Czechoslovakian and Japanese, and we’re even getting a contract up for one in Chinese. . So altogether it’s a little over a million copies, which just blows my mind. I can’t believe a book like that, which I thought would be boring to a lot of people. Suddenly they realize that money is power, and the fact that especially nowadays, the fact that they’re trying to get rid of the old money system and replace it with something called digital currency. Central Bank.

MARTIN: Okay. Yeah. Let’s talk about that in a bit. So I think, again, the people who are in charge of the financial system would dearly love for this book to never have been put out, right? Because it explains to people the way they have been co-opted into or as enslaved into this system.

G ED Griffin: Well, I think that’s, I’m going to say that’s obvious. They would not want this story told.

MARTIN: Right. It is. But they do, they do quite well in helping to suppress the availability.

G ED Griffin: Well, yeah. I don’t think that was directed particularly at my book, as it was just that books in general. They want to destroy the economy everywhere so that people will be on their knees begging for food and shelter and healthcare and so forth. That’s really what’s going on now in my view, is they’re trying to destroy, destroy, destroy, and put people out of work, give them a guaranteed annual income so that they’ll be happy now. But that means that they have to do exactly what they’re told or they will starve. So that’s what the game plan is. And so they didn’t really care about my book. I think in the beginning, 1969, I think it was, it was published. They would’ve just assumed that the book did not exist. Now I think they feel they’ve, there’s so much in control. They have so much power, so much money, so much control over the media, so much control over what you and I are allowed to do. But they don’t care anymore.

MARTIN: Feeling stronger.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. What are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about it?

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. That’s sort of like the bully in the room. He’s got 200 pounds extra weight on you. Yeah. You can do all you want. He’s just laughing at you. Right. That’s my elephant and sparrow metaphor.

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: Um, okay. Well still, I think it would be useful for people to get a copy and learn it and have themselves an awakening.

G ED Griffin: They have to do that if they want to survive, because it’s going to get worse before it gets better. It’s going to get better, but…

MARTIN: Okay. So Ed, where do they get the book?

G ED Griffin: Well, now that we have it back in stock, it should be available on Amazon. I should be available in any large bookstore. But certainly it is available from our own website, which is www.realityzone.com.

MARTIN: All right. We’ll put a link to that.

G ED Griffin: You can buy it directly from us. Yeah.

MARTIN: We’ll put a link directly to you so you can get your full price rather than give the cut to the others.

G ED Griffin: It’s all the same. I’m just so happy that people are reading the book. There even have been, there’s one, what would you call it? A pirated version that I’m aware of.

MARTIN: Really? Somebody’s actually printing your book?

G ED Griffin: They’re circulating…

MARTIN: To get the extra $2 that you would get?

G ED Griffin: Yeah. And you know, I’m a little bit peeved about that, but it’s not the money. I’m just thinking to myself, isn’t that cool that somebody wants to get this book out so badly that they would do that? It’s nice to have people like that helping to distribute the word, you know? And that’s really, when you think about it, that’s a better marketing model than the old one. When we first started out, we’d make a documentary film or an audio recording, and we put this warning on the beginning of it. Warning! FBI warning! If you pirate, if you make a copy of this without permission in writing from the author, we’re going to burn down your house and we’re going to take your children, whatever the threat was, you know? Nobody paid any attention to that.

G ED Griffin: They just did what they wanted to do anyway. But then we changed our attitude. This was about 10, 12 years ago. And we said, okay, here it is, these recordings. We want to get the word out. Please pirate this, make copies, give it to your friends. All we ask is that you just pay for the one, the first one, and then as long as you give it away free, we’ll give away a million of them. And it would make us very happy. And all of a sudden, once we changed our tone, why our sales went up! Instead of down. Fantastic, okay. Yeah. It’s human nature.

MARTIN: Mm. Interesting. So you just popped into this, the digital currency introduction and where it’s headed, right? This next evolution of, previously we would have the financiers or the managers of the money just create money out of thin air and put it into their pocket so that we could borrow it from them, right?

G ED Griffin: Or something like that. Yeah.

MARTIN: So now the next evolution of that whole thing is that not only do they control the birth, but they control it at every phase of its existence. Right?

G ED Griffin: Yeah. You won’t even be able to stick it in your mattress anymore cause it’s digital. You won’t be able to carry it around in your pocket and buy a stick of chewing gum without the sale being recorded. And not only that, but how much you paid for the chewing gum, what brand it was, and where you were at the time you bought it. Right down to the second. I mean, it was part of a tremendous surveillance system for every human being on the planet. Cause everything that they’re going to need to survive, will have to be transacted through this Central Bank Digital Currency. And it’s being sold to the people as though, isn’t that wonderful? It’s going to be so convenient, why even people in third world countries will be able to have credit cards or chips in their hand or something.

G ED Griffin: They’ll be able to buy things. They’ll be able to join the new world and everything. And being sold is a great convenience. And in some ways maybe there would be some convenience to it, but the penalty, the price on the other side is so fantastic. You will be complete slaves of the masters of this currency. If they don’t like what you’re doing or saying. You won’t be able to buy food, pay your rent, get gasoline, travel, you won’t have anything. You’ll be on the street corner begging for tidbits from people walking by and they probably won’t want to even be seen talking to you because that would be bad on their credit score and they might wind up next to you. Complete slavery is what we’re heading toward.

MARTIN: I was thinking that if it’s all digital, the beggar would have to be begging for a digital dollar. But that’s not transferable because you can’t transfer it into an account that’s closed.

G ED Griffin: That’s right. He’s begging for a slice of bread.

MARTIN: Yes. That. Yeah. I’d have to buy, I don’t know what, breakfast on my account and hand it to the person.

G ED Griffin: Exactly. Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. And if I am seen to be buying a breakfast right next to the forbidden person, I might end up being on the forbidden list just by proxy.

G ED Griffin: They’ll give you one chance to never do that again. And if you’re seen doing that again, you’d be on the street with the other person.

MARTIN: Yeah. Oh, the prospect of that is pretty terrible. I was contemplating how does Mr. Rockefeller and his ilk feel about us other people? And I was thinking it probably is a relationship that a rancher has to his cattle. He probably thinks of his cattle as, yeah they’re valuable. They deserve protection. They’re going to try and keep the coyotes away and keep the gopher holes from breaking their legs and all that. But come October, they’ll just round them up and load them on trucks and send them where they belong, right? No hard feelings. That’s why I raised you, I raised you for the hide and the meat. Off with you.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. We gave you a good life while you were here.

MARTIN: Yep. Yeah. I will protect you while you’re here, but no hard feelings at the end.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. But don’t do anything we don’t want you to do in the meantime. Otherwise you’ll be hamburger a lot sooner than you are scheduled for.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Don’t be breaking your leg because that’s going to be the end of you right now.

G ED Griffin: Right. And that’s a pretty good analogy. I think I agree with you totally on that. That’s how they do think of us, as cattle. Farm animals. Our utility. And if we get too old, or too feeble or we’re handicapped mentally, then we’ve got to be eliminated.

MARTIN: Yeah. Or too rambunctious and ornery, or inconvenient.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. If you start knocking down fence posts, you got to be eliminated.

MARTIN: Yeah. Whew. So how do we wake people up? I mean, you have been trying now for 50 years.

G ED Griffin: Well, there’s only one way to do it, and that’s to make sure you’ve got the truth. Which isn’t as easy, I found out as I thought it would be. I’m still learning that I have certain cherished beliefs that I have to occasionally look at very carefully and say, whoops, there goes another one. But as long as we’re dealing with what we honestly believe and see as truth, that’s number one. Number two, that we don’t act in fear. That’s number two. Because if we’re in fear that something’s going to happen to us, then we’ll stop promoting, we’ll stop talking, we’ll stop fighting, and then the last of our chances will disappear. And the other thing is just keep spreading the word. That’s all we can do. Because the only thing on our side, and I shouldn’t say the only thing, the strongest thing on our side is the strongest of all.

G ED Griffin: And that is we have the numbers, and now it’s true that this elite, they have control of the military and all the secret weapons, chemical warfare, drones, all these things that certainly will be, or can be unleashed against people like us when the time comes. But there just comes a point where the numbers of opposition become too great for even that, because there’ll be defectors from the inside. The young people, the kids of these elite, some of them will have conscience. And they’ll see something, like this fellow Yuri Bezmenov who I interviewed some years ago who was a KGB defector from the Soviet Union, was born into a family of great prestige. His father was a general in the Soviet army, and they lived like kings and he had no worries about food or shelter. They lived in a nice home.

G ED Griffin: I’m sure they had chauffeurs to drive them wherever they wanted to go, and military cars and so forth. And yet, even though with all of this privilege, he defected. Because he could not stand to see the hypocrisy, and the destruction of human values and human potential and privacy and the torture and the cruelty that came out of all of this. So he had great risk to his life, came over to the other side. This happens more than people realize, even though they’re born into a position of affluence in a tyrannical system. There’s something I think deep down in most of us, not all, but most of us, where that’s not going to work forever. We have to rise against it and confess and purge ourselves from having been associated with it.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. I think we would associate these personality traits with sociopathic, or narcissistic personalities, right? Now you need to be one of those in order to just live your life.

G ED Griffin: Well, it’s interesting that you mentioned that because I just finished reading a book two nights ago on the Tavistock organization that was in England, one of the first brainwashing institutions following World War II, where they really took the scientists from Nazi Germany who had perfected some very basic psychological techniques to control people. And some of them went to England, some of them came to the US and former Nazis all of a sudden were on the government payroll, on our side. And what started off as the Tavistock Institute later became MK Ultra and so forth, programs like that, which are still continuing. They’re horrendous programs, they’re horrible. And in this book, it described how, even back in the very beginning, people didn’t just wind up on the payroll of these organizations randomly. They were carefully selected, and they were put through a testing period to see if they were qualified, if they were ruthless enough, in other words, to actually serve in the ranks as enforcers.

G ED Griffin: Yes. I hadn’t focused on it, it’s logical. The closest thing I could think of it, prior to reading that book, was the fact that the SS officers in the Gestapo and in the Nazi party all had to be trained. And I think it was a three or four month training. And when they first signed up, they were each given a dog, a puppy, and they had to take care of that dog for the entire period of their training, feed it, groom it, and walk it, you know, became very close to it. The idea being that they couldn’t help it becoming very close to their dog. And then on graduation point, they had to kill the dog. They had to slit its throat.

MARTIN: Oh, not just shoot it, just actually slit its throat.

G ED Griffin: Actually slit its throat. Yeah.

MARTIN: Very personal.

G ED Griffin: Very personal, up close and personal. Yeah. Very bloody. And if they couldn’t do it, they were out. Only those who could do it would be accepted into the SS program. I thought, okay, that’s what Travistock was developing because they were talking about doing testing on these people who were applying to be part of the program, and they were looking for those that had a sadistic side to them. If they didn’t rate high enough on sadism, they didn’t make it at all. I thought, isn’t that amazing?

MARTIN: Yeah. This is how selective breeding works, right?

G ED Griffin: Yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. So as I’m thinking about it, I’m thinking that money is like oxygen to the economy, right? If oxygen for me is the exchange medium of life. I mean, there’s water and other things, but oxygen, without oxygen, we go away quick. I’m thinking that money is like oxygen to the economy. So wherever I put my money, is I’m feeding the flame of whatever I want to sustain. So we in our millions and billions do have the power to snuff out that which we don’t like, but we have to withdraw our support from it.
G ED Griffin: Yeah. And easier said than done, because…

MARTIN: No joke.

G ED Griffin: How many people do we know, including ourselves, who have said in all sincerity, I will never support a slave labor operation. And yet every day we go to the store, we buy stuff made in China, and it’s slave labor in China. Not all of it. But a huge amount.

MARTIN: That’s the thing. I cannot tell apart the part of China I want to support and the part of China I want to not support.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Yeah. So what about we said, I’m not going to buy a foreign made car. I’m going to buy an American made car, made in America, but 90% of the parts are made in China.

MARTIN: Or Mexico, or they’re..

G ED Griffin: Assembled in Mexico. And we buy the car because it’s an American car. So it’s easier said than done. How do you withhold your money or your economic transactions when your enemy is everywhere?

MARTIN: Okay. Well, at least I could choose, for example, to choke off Walmart by not shopping there.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Right.

MARTIN: If I didn’t like Walmart, which I’m ambivalent about that myself, but I don’t know.

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Well I wouldn’t argue against that, but I think that there are more productive avenues of our efforts than that. And that would be to organize opposition, not to be passive, but to be assertive, to be proactive, to find candidates for office. Don’t wait until election time and say, well, let’s see who’s running, who am I going to vote for? By the time you see who is running, it’s over. Because all the candidates by that time have been purchased by the same people. So you get to choose between left and right, or Republican versus Democrat, or whatever you think you’re choosing, but it’s all controlled by the same bosses. But we can pick our own candidates, we can start at the county levels. I’ve done quite a bit of research on this, and we’re beginning to do that with what we call campuses of Red Pill University. It’s surprisingly easy to gain controlling influence over a county board of supervisors and get your own people in there. If you select your people, not wait and see who is going to be put up as a candidate by somebody else, you select your own people. And almost in every case, these will be people who do not want to run.

MARTIN: Yes, they do. Because it’s a lousy job, right.

G ED Griffin: A lousy job, and they don’t want all that stuff. But if you find somebody that can hardly wait to be elected to public office, probably it’s not the guy or gal that you really are looking for. So this is, you just don’t wait and see how it all turns out. You have to be assertive and aggressive, proactive in all of this.

MARTIN: Mmmm. All right. Well, I was hoping that you would say something like, make sure that you choose your products carefully and you choose your vendors carefully, and here we are,

G ED Griffin: . Well, I think that’s a good idea, but I don’t think that’s going to win the war.

MARTIN: Yeah. I think you’re right. It’s probably just a small battle, but yeah, it’s just saying that, you know, here we are because of Folium and we would like to thank Folium for sponsoring this event, and we would like them to be honored because after all, we all need to detox.

G ED Griffin: Yes.

MARTIN: And if you have the choice and enjoy these conversations, we would like you to come back and get your health supplements here.

G ED Griffin: Sure. Well, that’s the way it works. And you can build a customer base, a loyalty base, but it’s usually based on knowledge. Well, let’s just take Folium for example. What makes me so enthusiastic over Folium? It’s not just that it works, which is big, but it’s because it works on the basis of a principle that I understand and I totally endorse, it’s nature at work, it’s non-toxic. And it’s not patented. Somebody else could make one just like it, and wouldn’t that be great? Sorry Babry about that. But there would be competition then. And the prices would be seeking its lowest possible level, and the quality would be seeking the highest possible level in order to gain the market. That’s the magic of the free market. But it’s not just because it works, although that is a very important thing too.

MARTIN: All right. I could easily imagine talking to you for another hour, but I think, I don’t want to overstay my welcome.

G ED Griffin: Well, I think I might have done the same thing. You get me off on these topics and it’s pretty hard to shut me up. Anyway, thanks for inviting me. I hope your viewers have gotten something of value out of it, and I’m looking forward to being back.

MARTIN: Yes. I would love to actually do a deeper dive on whatever you think about the world, because I think you have had the time and the wisdom and the talent to think deeply about things that are worth considering as we’re spinning around on this little blue marble in space and greater, I don’t know what universe,

G ED Griffin: Yeah. Someday.

MARTIN: Mr Ed Griffin and his books, take a note. Again, this was the World without Cancer and the Creature From Jekyll Island. Those are well worth reading. Take my word for it.

G ED Griffin: Wow. Thank you Martin. Thank you very much.

MARTIN: This is Martin Pytela for Life-Enthusiast.com. Reach me at (866)543-3388. Thank you, Mr. Griffin.

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Podcast 452: Our Cosmic Origin

On this weeks episode, Ismael Perez joins Martin on the podcast to discuss his exciting book “Our Cosmic Origin.” This book explains the true history of earth as it connects to the long time suppressed history of our galaxy. In a way where science, philosophy and spirituality finally come together as one. You’ll come to understand the true origin of our species, our cosmic ancestry as it relates to endless worlds, other dimensions and multiple universes. Open your eyes (perhaps all three of them) about the earth’s place in the multiverse and about a creator organization of the cosmos. This knowledge will help the ascension of planet earth as it shifts from 3D to 5D going into the age of the Aquarius.

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MARTIN: Hi everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast. And with me today, I have a big announcement! We have been introduced to Ismael Perez, who is the author of Our Cosmic Origins, among other things. He also wrote other books previously, and he’ll tell us all about it. But what I’m super excited about is that Ismael is coming to us with a message, a plan, a big picture plan. And I would like you, our audience, to get a chance to understand just how our minuscule, miserable little lives fit into the big picture. Ismael!

ISMAEL: Thank you. I appreciate you for having me here, giving me this opportunity. So for those who don’t know me, my name is Ishmael Perez. I am the author of a book called Our Cosmic Origin, which reveals the true galactic history of the earth. Revealing the true connection to the extraterrestrial races, the cosmic beginnings of humanity, the different dimensional realities and much more. It is a book that once again bridges the gap between ancient metaphysical knowledge that has been suppressed for thousands of years. With cutting edge science coming from the realm of quantum physics, super string theory, M theory, and unified field theory, explaining the bigger picture in our connection to the cosmos.

MARTIN: Yeah, and in my mind, it’s sort of like here we are on the Titanic, having a wonderful dinner and arranging our chairs and all of that, but we are on the Titanic! If we don’t talk to the captain and don’t change the way this is headed, we could just totally trash this journey, right?

ISMAEL: Absolutely. Yeah. Yes.

MARTIN: I mean, myself since childhood, I’ve felt, and I’ve had inner knowing that there is much more to it than what just meets the eye. And I’ve held strong knowing that I have been around many times in many places. So when one day I had a chance to talk to a fellow who does Akashic records readings, he said oh yeah, 120,000 rounds. And I said well, that feels like a big number. He said, oh only 20% of them here on this planet!

ISMAEL: You know Martin, he’s telling you the truth.

MARTIN: Oh yes, of course. But typically I don’t go out on a limb telling people these things because it’s not part of the everyday discourse. In mainstream news, they look at you like this and they think that you have lost something. How do you know that you know?

ISMAEL: Well for one, I consider myself a galactic ambassador representing an interdimensional alliance that was designed long ago, as guardians and protectors of the Earth. And so I am extraterrestrial in human form, many would consider me a star seed, an awakened star seed. And I believe that there’s millions upon millions of star seeds that are embodied in human form, that actually chose to incarnate at this time to help in the event that is known as the Planetary Ascension. Which is an event that is fast approaching. So, as a member of the Interdimensional Alliance, my purpose in coming here is to reveal the cosmic connection to the Earth and how the Earth has been involved in an interdimensional warfare that has been going on for billions and billions of years. So, just because we are only attuned to this reality guys, it doesn’t mean that advanced civilizations or extraterrestrials don’t exist.

ISMAEL: The truth of the matter is, is that this minute war that we called the war between the Cabal and the Earth Alliance, is rather a small reflection of a greater war that has been going on in our Milky Way galaxy for millions of years between the Draco Reptilians who represent the villains in the galaxy, and the galactic Lyran humanoids, which are the ancestors of all human races in our universe. And so in my book, I revealed the entire story in great detail in how this war between the original galactic humans, who are our ancestors the Lyrans, and the Reptilians, is a war that is now coming to an end here in our world between the Cabal deep state and the White Hats.

MARTIN: Hmm, that’s deep, very deep. So I guess about 67 million years ago, we really upset them when we somehow blew up the entire dinosaur existence on this planet.

ISMAEL: Absolutely. My friend. Yes, we could say that the whole concept and the existence of dinosaurs was attributed to when the reptilians came to our world and decided to create their own development, which came in the form of the dinosaurs. But to our surprise, the galactic humanoids that have been around for billions of years in our universe, not only in our galaxy, were able to intelligently direct an asteroid to wipe out the dinosaur population in order to allow the human species to exist here on our planet. But bear in mind that, you know, according to my research, human-like specimens exist all over the universe. We’re not just the only humans. Every single humanoid out there, in fact about 80% of the extraterrestrials are humanoid. They look like us, we look like them. There is no difference. And we all share the same God by the way.

MARTIN: And that is the strangest thing, right? Like we seem to find all these minute differences, and then we focus on the differences, but we should be focusing on what’s in common, right? The center.

ISMAEL: Exactly. Yes.

MARTIN: That I found so encouraging in your message where you’re saying, come on there’s the God, the consciousness, this is the whole thing. I mean, the entire universe really is the expression of that great consciousness, right?

ISMAEL: Absolutely, my friend. And that is now being proven through science, that we do live in a conscious living universe, in an organic living universe. Where everything is alive, the planet is a living entity, our solar system, our galaxy, and the entire universe is a big entity at a macro level of reality. And to be honest, we are like the cells in the universe, right? Just like we have trillions of cells, little us inside our bodies, right? Each cell with its own mind, its own individual consciousness in like manner, we humans in the universe are like the cells that make up the body of our living universe.

MARTIN: Right? Yes. As above, so below. In such, so many scales, right?

ISMAEL: Absolutely. Yeah. There’s, I think there’s about 12 dimensions. So the universe is divided in 12 dimensional spheres or frequencies, where the 12 dimension is where in fact consciousness of our universe exists in all 12 dimensions, but it is expressed through all the different levels from the mineral kingdom to the elemental kingdom, to the plant kingdom, the animal kingdom, the human kingdom, planets, stars, galaxies, and then of course, a 12 dimension being the universe. But it’s all one consciousness divided into different levels. Exactly.

MARTIN: . So when a person gets your book, which I encourage everyone to do, because it will help so much with the understanding. What can one expect once they’ve read the book? What, what will happen to the ordinary person who says, oh I should know this, I should learn this.

ISMAEL: Definitely an activation, an awakening, a deeper understanding of our place in the multiverse. Because not only do I reveal galactic history my friend, but I also reveal Earth’s place in relation to the multiverse. And we do live in an organized multiverse where every planet, every solar system, every galaxy and every universe is registered and is, and every single one of those has a Stargate number. So everything is well organized, we are part of a living intelligent cosmos, and life is steaming up on every level of reality. So what people are gonna do when they read my book is first of all, they are going to break away from the matrix. They are going to break away from the programming, because the programming was designed to lock us into a very small, narrow bandwidth of reality, which is only 1%.

ISMAEL: It turns out that the other 99% of our reality was intelligently left out by the genetic programming, since the day, since the moment we were born, we are programmed. Right? Because that was part of why the fallen angels, which are the reptilians in the Bible, when they took over the affairs of the world, it turns out that they disconnected about 10 strands of our DNA, and yeah that explains the junk DNA that scientists have recently discovered. So we had already existed with a greater genetic capacity before we became downgraded into just these Homo sapiens that we are now, and there was a reason for that. And so we are now living in a time my friend, where the other 10 strands of DNA are already getting to reactivate so that we could have our original 12 strand DNA. And that is a process that we are all undergoing as the planet moves into a higher dimension.

ISMAEL: And because from what I understand is our planet Earth as a sentient being is also moving up into the fifth dimension. Yeah. So we are living in the greatest times ever in the history of the Earth, where for the first time in Earth’s history, an entire planet is going to ascend. And those people that are living, that are very good people, good heart, are going to be able to become upgraded and become 12 strand DNA and go from a hundred years to thousands of years, right. In the same body, no longer going to age anymore.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Lovely! So I guess in preparation maybe the fellow that introduced us, Babry Oren. He is running an enterprise that helps people to prepare right? To detoxify. Do you have anything good to say about the Folium product?

ISMAEL: Absolutely. It is a natural remedy for the detoxification of all metals in our body. And believe it or not, under the control, the reptilian control of the planet through the cabal families, everything has been poisoned. My friend, including the shampoos that we use, the face wash, the foods that we eat, the makeup that women use, the chemtrails, all of that stuff is releasing nanoparticles, metals, barium, aluminum, which is very, very harmful for the human body. And my friend developed a product that actually cleanses yourself from all of those particulates. And to me, that is what we need, you know? That is amazing. That’s why I promote the product because this is what we need to cure, to heal ourselves from the inside out. Because like you said, as above, so below. It turns out that just how we are battling cancer cells, right? Tumor cells, it turns out that there is a cosmic cancer that does exist in the form of artificial intelligence. And this is a negative artificial intelligence that the entire multiverse has been at war with. So from a cosmic level of reality my friend, we have been fighting a cosmic virus that has been destroying galaxies, universes, for billions of years..

MARTIN: So what you’re saying evokes the Star Wars movies into my memory, maybe the fellow that put the script together listened to something similar to what you’ve heard. Huh?

ISMAEL: Well you know, many believe that George Lucas was able to tap into the Akashic records to have access to the galactic wars that took place in our own galaxy. Those wars have a name, they are called the Orion Wars, and those were the wars that took place between the Galactic Federation, those that are represented by the galactic humanoids and the Draco Reptilians that represent the Orion Empire. So all he did was switch the names, instead of calling it Galactic Federation, he called it Jedi Council. Instead of calling it Draco Orion Empire, he called it the Sith council. So it’s the same meaning, he just kind of changed the wording around. But the whole concept of this war between the galactic empire that is led by the Draco reptilians who are the boss and the overlords of the Cabal, see what most people fail to realize is that this is a multidimensional warfare.

ISMAEL: On a planetary level, we are dealing with a deep state. We are fighting a Cabal. On the galactic level, we are fighting a reptilian race, right? The Draco. But on a cosmic level my friend, it all boils down to artificial intelligence. We are fighting against the machine, a very advanced negative machine that has evolved to the point where it is now able to destroy galaxies at a very large scale of reality. And that’s a reflection of what’s going on with the program that the Cabal initiated two years ago, right? With the shots. The whole purpose of that shot my friend, was to convert us to machines, because there is, yeah. There’s a lot of things that people don’t understand on the Earth. That is how artificial intelligence takes over worlds. They don’t do it openly, they do it inwardly through infiltration, and then they take over the body through injections. That’s how they’re able to take over.

MARTIN: Yeah. Once you insert the conductors, the metals. It’s a lot easier to get the signal inside you.

ISMAEL: Yes. And then combine that with, I want to call it five golf, I’m going to speak in metaphor, five golf. Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. The short wave highest frequency. Yeah.

ISMAEL: Yeah five golf, once they activate five golf, and then once they have so many shots it’s going to activate the particulates in people’s bodies, and those people will no longer be organic, but there is a solution to make sure that that doesn’t happen. And that solution comes in the form of what they call a solar flash event, which is already happening. And as I speak even NASA has been registering massive solar flares. These solar flares have to do with a new energy that is now penetrating the planet that has a lot to do with shifting the planet to a higher dimension in order to prevent a side war or what we call an AI takeover of our world. So through this event that is slowly happening called the Grand Solar Flash, there is gonna come to a point where the Sun is going to release a frequency my friend, that is going to totally dissolve and neutralize all the the poison, all the particulates in people’s bodies so that the people do not become cyborgs. Because in the end, the Cabal agenda was to connect people to something similar to what we see in Terminator, the Skynet to the Borg, you know? And they’ve already been setting that up through satellite systems.

MARTIN: Yeah. It reminds me of the insect style of society where the individual is always expendable, and it doesn’t get respected. Right.

ISMAEL: Exactly. Yeah. Pretty much, yeah. So that’s the bigger picture, the bigger picture is that there is an agenda to destroy the organic way of life.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, isn’t that interesting that we are born and living in the time and space where this is coming to a head. Right. This is really the moment of the battles upon us.

ISMAEL: Absolutely my friend. Absolutely. And that’s why they say that the last war takes place here on this planet, because this planet also is very significant to the overall plan of the cosmos.

MARTIN: And here we are, we chose to be here.

ISMAEL: Yeah. We all chose to incarnate at this time. Exactly.

MARTIN: So everyone listening, for some reason you chose to buy the tickets to the greatest show available.

ISMAEL: And to the hardest dimension ever to explore, which is the third dimension. That’s another thing that I talk about in my book is how we’ve been descending, through a process of involution, which is descent of spirit into denser realities. We’ve become matter material. But our true origin, Martin, began in the eternal spheres. We began as spirit beings, before we became human.

MARTIN: Yes. I have a strong sense of myself that my eternal spark, whatever that is, the consciousness that animates me, is wearing this body as I would wear a jacket or a shirt.

ISMAEL: Yeah like an avatar.

MARTIN: . Yeah. An avatar. Yeah very good. That’s another wonderful concept. And anyway, what I’m trying to get at is to get our audience to understand what they can do. So one, definitely read the book because it’s going to help you put yourself on the path, right? On understanding and to prepare.

ISMAEL: It’s gonna make you, it’s gonna help you understand the bigger picture beyond the Earth because what’s going on in the Earth like I said, is a reflection of a greater war that has been going on in our galaxy and in the cosmos and in other dimensions. It’s just that this war is now finally being played out here in this world, in this realm.

MARTIN: Yeah, you happen to have the book handy?

ISMAEL: I do, actually. It’s called Our Cosmic Origin.

MARTIN: Yeah. Lovely. Oh, what a pretty design too. Right from Egypt.

ISMAEL: Yeah. And the reason I picked the all seeing eye, is it’s symbolic to the third eye chakra. Once we activate the third eye chakra my friend, we gain all our psychic abilities back. We become to see things as they really truly are in a sense where we can no longer be deceived. So this has nothing to do with Cabal. This has everything to do with the original concept of the all seeing eye, which is something that is related to the activation of the pineal gland. Once we activate the pineal gland, then we have access to all the other dimensions. And so that’s why I picked this eye. Now at the center, you see planet Earth.

MARTIN: Ah.

ISMAEL: Remember how I was saying how planet Earth is the most important planet? There is a reason for that. Planet Earth in its original conception was designed as an intergalactic exchange center of information for the entire cosmos. So there is a reason why Earth is so important in this, in the greater scheme of things. And now this book is actually the second edition. I did have one, the first edition that I published a year and a half ago, and that edition is no longer in circulation. This one is much better. This one was re-edited and, and remodified where I simplified it, where it’s easier to understand because there’s a lot of cosmic information. And I also added an additional chapter which explains what happens after the solar flash, after the great event that is going to usher in what I call the seventh Golden Age of Enlightenment in the age of Aquarius. .

MARTIN: All right. . Well, wonderful! I don’t know that we can say much more than that.

ISMAEL: You know for those that are interested in getting my book, I do sell it on Amazon. All you have to do is type in Our Cosmic Origin by Ismael Perez, and make sure you click on the purple copy. The purple copy is the new edition.

MARTIN: Great. Well, I’m looking forward to having another discussion with you about all of this right after the first large solar flash.

ISMAEL: Absolutely my friend, anytime.

MARTIN: I’m hoping that we are going to be still alive when this happens because it’s right around the corner, right?

ISMAEL: I believe that it’s gonna happen between now and 2024. But you know lately, we’ve been receiving a lot of solar flares, a lot of huge blasts coming from the sun. They’re called CMEs coronal mass ejections. And so lately the coronal mass ejections have been so intense that they are registering as X-class flares, M-class flares. And then they believe that the biggest one is what’s going to completely shift the planetary consciousness of Earth into the next level of reality, or we call into the fifth dimension. So when that happens, all the evil on this planet, including the AI and all the poison in people’s bodies, that they got through the injection is all going to be dissolved.

MARTIN: Great. In the meantime, we do need to try and keep ourselves going by doing the right things.

ISMAEL: Doing the right things, eating healthy, and most importantly, detoxing by taking Folium. .

MARTIN: You actually have a bottle of it. This is good.

ISMAEL: Yes. I’m referring everybody to this. This is the greatest thing that I’ve ever discovered so far when it comes to detoxing the body from all metals.

MARTIN: Fantastic. Ismael, this has been a pleasure and a treat, and I thank you. And we’re going to connect again.

ISMAEL: Thank you, Martin. I appreciate your time as well, my friend.

MARTIN: This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast, www.life-enthusiast.com with questions call me at 1 866 543 3388. Thank you.

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Podcast 451: Soil Secrets

Michael Melendrez joins Martin to discuss the dangers of modern agriculture to the health of our soil. Michael Melendrez is the owner and founder of www.soilsecrets.com. Soil Secrets is a soil amendment technology, their mission is to create food security and independence for people and their families. Using molecular biology they have helped many home owners, engineers and farmers create more sustainable and more nutrient dense soil.

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MARTIN: Hello, everybody. This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. And today I have with me Michael Melendrez from Soil Secrets, Soilsecrets.com. I think I will do best by letting Michael tell his story. Welcome!

MICHAEL: Well, thank you for having me.

MARTIN: Yeah. In our talk before we started recording, we started sharing notes about how we see health. How we see wellness. How we come to understand what’s really important.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: And so I’d love to have you share how you came to realizing that fixing wellness with vitamins was really not the best place to start.

MICHAEL: Fixing wellness with vitamins? Well, I look at wellness as a total body experience. Which means you have to consider the entire physical being and the emotional being in order to have wellness. And so one of the, everything in that’s going to be a limiting factor. So if you’re busy exercising and busy eating a good diet but you’re not living in a happy place. You’re not content with your life, the type of work you’re doing or the way you’re living, then you’re not going to have wellness. So you have to look at the total picture. I decided to work in the arena of soil health after I had already worked in the arena of human health, from back in the early 1980’s when I owned a wellness company called Corporate Fit Systems.

MICHAEL: And we considered all the modalities of wellness as part of that program, including exercise and mental health and diet etc. And I discovered that when I began to analyze people for their diet, by documenting everything that they ate, and looking at the data that we had from the USDA concerning how much nutrition should be for example, in an apple. How much calcium should be in an apple, or how much vitamin C should be in an orange. I became doubtful as to the validity of that information. And so I began analyzing fresh fruits and vegetables to see exactly how much nutrition is really in our food. Because if I was going to be evaluating somebody’s diet by having them keep a log of everything they ate, and then we would plug all that information into the computer and get a report telling us, well, you’re not getting enough of this or that. Or maybe you’re getting too much of this or that, then I needed to know if the information was accurate that we were depending on. So when I began analyzing fresh fruits and vegetables, and remember, this is back in 1981, 82. I discovered that everything that I had analyzed was running anywhere from 25 to 30% lower in vitamin and mineral nutrition than what the USDA data said it should contain.

MARTIN: Yeah. Now, this reminds me just to interrupt slightly. Back in 1937, there was a famous congressional report released that said that 80% of mineralization had been lost by 1937 from the original analyses that they ran back when. It’s gone downhill since, like I remember looking at some other analyses that were comparing organic, regular conventional and GMO with….

MICHAEL: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: And the GMO corn had 10% of the mineralization. I think it was magnesium or calcium they were looking at specifically, of the organic version of it. Right? Like that.

MICHAEL: Well, I analyzed fresh fruits and vegetables that were coming from organic certified farms also. And even that was well below what it should have contained. And that reminds me of a radio show that I heard a year and a half ago during the height of the covid pandemic, where they were interviewing a medical doctor in Albuquerque. And one of the questions that came up was, should I be supplementing extra Vitamin D and Zinc and Vitamin C etc. in order to strengthen my immune system so I don’t get sick from covid or as sick from Covid? And the response from the medical doctor was no, that as long as you ate a reasonable diet, then you should be getting everything you need. Well that basically reveals that the doctor is not aware of the fact that we do have a problem with our agricultural farms being able to produce food that is going to provide nutrient dense nutrition to us.

MICHAEL: And so there really is no opportunity for a reasonable diet. The doctor’s wrong. You’re going to have to find a way to supplement those vitamins and minerals. Or if nothing else, work on restoring the health of your soil that you’re growing your own fresh fruits and vegetables on, and depend on that. So that’s where I made a decision to change my career path from that of wellness over to soils. And because I realized that if I was going to have a significant impact in my lifetime, that I needed to focus on soils. I needed to fix the problem of soils. And that was the beginning of the company’s soil secrets. And we’re talking about the middle 1980s.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. You told me that you actually did some serious research into Humic Acid too, right? Or humus as such.

MICHAEL: Yes. You know, there’s this world of agriculture fertilizer type products, fertilizer companies sell Humic Acid to farmers. And I began doing some reading up on what literature I could find on humic acids. And I discovered that that actually humic acids have never been described. And in other words, no scientists of merit has ever actually found the molecule of humic acid and described what it is. So I decided that I wanted to pursue that research and see if I could find it and describe it. So between 1998 and 2011, I worked on that. And basically with the help of the national nuclear labs in New Mexico and the equipment that they have, we studied the carbon of soils and purified the carbon out of soils. And then did what we called a molecular characterization of that carbon, and found that there is in fact a marvelous chemistry of carbon based molecules that develop in the soil through chemical reactions.

MICHAEL: And that using the term Humic Acid really doesn’t do it justice. The term humic acid is really too simplistic. These molecules are very complex. They are super molecular in behavior, and they are the result of chemical reactions that take place in the soil. They are not the result of just the decomposition of dead stuff, compost and vegetation, detritus etc. That’s not where they’re coming from. They’re coming from a much more complex chemical reaction taking place in the soil. And they really define the very essence of what a healthy soil is.

MARTIN: So is that sort of like a living thing in a way, or is it definable? Or is it changing?

MICHAEL: Well, there’s super molecular. And super molecular means that there’s different shapes and sizes of these molecules, and they will organize together into a much larger structure, and they’ll do this without an outside influence. So there is a chemical intelligence, if you will, that is causing that to happen. And once they come together as a bigger structure, they are very powerful and have a tremendous influence on soils. On the structure of soil, on the health of soil, on how microbes and crops and vegetation can live in that soil. You know, you can take a really terribly damaged soil like mine tailings, and by simply adding these substances to that, you can turn it into a living soil rapidly. So are they alive? Well, they..

MARTIN: As if they were.

MICHAEL: They generate electricity, and they’re massive structures of induced magnetic fields. So we’re getting into some pretty complex stuff there. But they’re just pretty cool.

MARTIN: They behave as though they were some consciousness driving it. Right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. So super molecular, it’s sort of like if you were to take a jigsaw puzzle of the Mona Lisa, a thousand pieces, and you dumped it on the floor, big pile of pieces. Every piece has its place in that puzzle, and that’s the only spot that that piece fits. And so if you were to dump the puzzle on the floor, and then you left and went, went to lunch, and after lunch you came back, the puzzle put itself together. That’s what’s happening here in the case of this chemistry, is that the puzzle is putting itself together into this bigger structure. That’s what super molecular, I’m kind of grossly oversimplifying it, but that’s really what it is.

MARTIN: It kind of suggests that there’s some kind of a higher consciousness, higher intelligence driving this bus, right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yep. Yep. Sure is. Yeah. So when you look at the products that are being sold as humic acids, they do not have this characteristic. We also analyze them looking for the same thing, and they don’t contain it.

MARTIN: Okay. And so you may be getting some benefits, but it’s not quite the same thing.

MICHAEL: Correct. Correct.

MARTIN: Hmm. All right. Well, I guess I better have my product that we call Humic Acid sent to you to take a look at and tell me if I’m overstating my benefits or not, right? Because we have study, there are studies out there, right? There are scientific studies that talk about, I have used humic acid or have used fulvic acid, and I have done this and that. And I mean, there are studies that show that it affects viral expression. There are studies that it affects how people detoxify, how their immune system is able to tell this apart from that.

MICHAEL: Yeah. There are studies that do definitely demonstrate those benefits. But it’s also important to understand that the method of analyzing both Fulvic or Humic Acid by the laboratory industry, both the laboratories that are owned by commercial entities as well as universities, that there is no standard method of analysis to find those things. And there are methods that are accepted by certain government entities, like the state of California says, well, you have to use the CDFA method of analysis, which is a method that they accept, or the Humic Trade Association method, and we will accept the lower of the two numbers. And so if you’re analyzing your product, for example for humic acid, and the CDFA method said well, it contains 5%. And the Humic Trade Association method says, well, it contains 6%. Then the state of California, when you register that product is only going to allow you to use the 4% number. But you might use another method, like an international method in another country, and it comes out at 15%. And so the problem is, is that there’s no standardization in how we analyze and look for the so-called humic acid or fullvc acid. In the state of California, fulvic acid is not even allowed. They don’t accept it, and…

MARTIN: It doesn’t exist, yeah?

MICHAEL: Yeah. It’s not an accepted term at all. And in the world of professional chemistry, fulvic is not accepted either. So what is fulvic? I mean, I can take oxidized lignite, also known as humate or leonardite or peat moss, and I can run hot water through it and collect off a yellow liquid. And the word fulvic comes from the Greek word “folvate”, which means yellow. And so I’m going to get this yellow extract by rinsing it through those materials. And if I stick a pH meter in there, the pH is going to be really low, acidic. Therefore, I could say, well it’s an acidic yellow water. Yes. Therefore, it’s fulvic acid.

MARTIN: Because you started by washing through some old leonardite deposit. Okay.

MICHAEL: Yeah. So that’s how we got that term. But is there a molecule in that yellow water that we can actually describe and publish in the cast registry, which is the compendium database of professional chemistry? The answer is no. But that doesn’t mean that there’s nothing in that yellow water that could be providing you a health benefit if you were to use it as a nutraceutical. I would be dead wrong if I said that.

MARTIN: Yeah, I hear you. And that’s an interesting sidebar. So let’s get back to what Soil Secrets is really up to. Like the way I understand you, is you stand for helping people create independence, create food security, create health security. Right?

MICHAEL: That’s absolutely correct. A lot of us like to talk about a lot of things going wrong in this world. And some people might talk about climate change and other people talk about violence, some talk politics, etc. In my thoughts, what we are really facing, which is the more eminent danger is food security. And you look at third world countries, African nations that are trying to grow food in order to feed millions and millions of people. And if we were to interfere with the old fashioned technique of growing food by introducing modern agriculture like we’ve done here in the United States, I think that’ll be a disaster because modern agriculture here in the United States has destroyed our soils.

MARTIN: Yeah. I actually would like to butt in here. My favorite saying is, we’re running this industrial food production experiment, and it’s going exceedingly badly. We have…

MICHAEL: Yes.

MICHAEL: Yeah. The analysis work I did 38 years ago, or 39 years ago, or whatever it was. Proving that, we are losing nutrition in our food exemplifies that point. How bad is it now? I haven’t tested food recently, but I’ll betcha it’s worse than it was in 1981, or 82 or 83. So we certainly don’t want to be introducing genetically modified crops to Africa. High yield acid based fertilizers and great big giant tractors and all the stuff that we did here in the United States, because we’ve ruined our soils in the United States.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is a big deal, right? Like we are losing top soil because of erosion, and we’re also murdering the microbes using glyphosate and other chemicals.

MICHAEL: Just crushing the soils with big machinery and sub-soiling, and plowing, and laser leveling, and all the things that we do has been very destructive to our soils. My father explained it to me in a way that made a lot of sense to me when I was only 13 years old back in 1968. My father was a farmer and a brilliant man. I admired him tremendously and followed him as much as I could to learn all I could. And in 1968, I was wanting to compete in the four H soil judging contest here in New Mexico. And my dad agreed to teach me how to judge soil and being a farmer, and also being the John Deere implement guy, he understood soils. So we were out digging holes in the ground and he was showing me how to manipulate the texture of the soil to your fingertips and discriminate between sand, silt, clay, loam, etc. And to estimate the percentages of each of those different particle sizes.

MICHAEL: And while we were doing this, he scooped up a handful of soil and was looking at it, and he said to me: “You know Michael, everything we do in farming is wrong, and it destroys this. We need to do a better job of taking care of our soil.” That had a very profound effect on me. And I don’t know why I didn’t from the very beginning make it my life’s ambition, my life’s work to fix that problem. So I kind of went in a roundabout way, studying science and studying human health and wellness. And behind me here is a chart of all the metabolic pathways in the human body, very complex. I had to learn all of that while I was in college. But as a result of learning that, and also learning a little bit about soils, it gave me a greater appreciation for how significant the life of the soil really is and how this plays a role in our own physiology. So, thank goodness I had the dad I had.

MARTIN: Yeah, that’s wonderful. My dad was a veterinarian. So I had some exposure to that sort of thing too, and I followed him around. And so the other statement that I was thinking of is that we have food that’s cheaper than it’s ever been, and we’re getting exactly what we’re paying for.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: Not much, right?

MICHAEL: Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Nutrient poor, calorie rich, we have all kinds of calories coming with the corn, soy, wheat, whatever. We are growing at these gigantic farms with really high yields, but all it’s giving us is a bit of starch. Right?

MICHAEL: Well, when I was in college a long long time ago, we called that empty calories. Of course, we were referring to donuts and twinkies and you know, bad stuff like that when we talk about empty calories. But in truth, all of our food is empty calories because it’s not nutrient dense. And as a result of that, we don’t satisfy ourselves when we’re eating, our body is craving nutrition. It’s craving amino acids, it’s craving vitamins, it’s craving minerals. And the craving doesn’t stop until you satisfy that need. So you keep eating until you satisfy the need. But the problem is that if you’re eating food of empty calories, you don’t satisfy the need and what happens to us?

MARTIN: Yeah. How much broccoli do I have to eat? Never mind how many donuts, the number of donuts is infinity. Right?

MICHAEL: Right.

MARTIN: The number of broccoli is still too high, because I will have too much roughage relative to the nutrients. Correct?

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: I guess the…

MICHAEL: So we have an obesity problem.

MARTIN: Yeah. So my line would be the quality of your life, your health will reflect the quality of your electrolytes.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: Like we ourselves, is the water with minerals in it, right? Like sodium, calcium, potassium, magnesium, phosphorus, whatever, all of that soup that the doctor will check when they test your blood, that has to come from someplace, right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. Electrolytes are very important. And without electrolytes, water is not a conduit for electricity. You got to have electricity. You have to. And we’re just a great big bag of water.

MARTIN: Right. And so life itself is expressing itself through, well amino acids and the minerals and all the other stuff. So going back to the food security then. Soil secrets, right? Like, that’s where you stand. You will help me and my family grow food that is worth growing, right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. We work with homeowners all over the United States. And we give them the tools that they need in their toolbox to be able to take their garden soil and turn it into a healthy living soil, so that they can grow their own food. And now we also use the same science, the same molecular biology to repair soils that have been damaged by perhaps hurricanes, that caused an ocean surge of salty water that comes on the land. And all the salts destroy the vegetation. And until you get rid of those salts in that soil, you’re going to have trouble growing healthy vegetation. Well, we use the same molecular biology to repair that kind of land as we would repairing the victory garden that you have in your backyard. Or repairing a brownfield site, maybe an old factory site that they’ve contaminated the ground with diesel fuel and other types of oils, etc. And we can correct that as well.

MARTIN: So what’s that look like? Okay, let’s just define it. So you have either the gardener who’s growing their own little plot, or you have a single owner, small farmer, or you can probably do business with a big scale farmer if they want to get ecological, right?

MICHAEL: That’s right. We do all the above.

MARTIN: All right. So what does it look like? Do I send you a bag of my dirt?

MICHAEL: No, I don’t even need that. It’s going to work no matter what the dirt is. If it’s a clay based dirt or sand based dirt, or a silky loam or, it’s going to work. It’s always going to have a positive benefit.

MARTIN: So what’s that look like? Do I buy a bag of your stuff?

MICHAEL: We basically have what we call a Healthy Soil Gardening kit. And the Healthy Soil Gardening kit is composed of two major items, within the two major items we’ve included ingredients. For example, we’ve included beneficial bacteria, that your soils need to have the bacteria that associate with the roots of your plant, and make it easier for that plant to grow there. So we’ve added those bacteria in there. We’ve added that carbon molecular substance that I talked about earlier, that is super molecular that’s in there. We’ve added trace minerals, they’re in there. And so we have that particular product is called, for lack of a better term, and probably an overused term, a soil activator. And then we have the second part of this gardening kit is the soil food. This is an amino acid based product that is going to provide the building blocks of life that the microbiology is going to need in order to grow more microbiology and turn that dirt into a healthy soil. So it’s two things, soil activator, soil food put together. They’re granular, you can spread it by hand. It’s not toxic to you. There’s nothing harmful in it. And by just simply scattering it on the ground, where you’re going to plant your garden and watering it in, you’ve done it.

MARTIN: Alright.

MICHAEL: Very, very simple.

MARTIN: So compare this to, me going into the local garden center and buying a bag of maybe humic and back of rock dust, that sort of stuff, right?

MICHAEL: That will not be a soil activator.

MARTIN: Right. Well, I’m wanting you to explain it to the beginner gardener, to the why.

MICHAEL: Because the Humic is not going to contain the molecular essence of what the soil needs. What the soil needs are these carbon molecules that are generating electricity called through a process called an induced magnetic field. And so the humate or humic product does not have that characteristic. It might have minerals, but it doesn’t have the mechanism of action that is going to change that soil in the way that I’m describing it. So this is a unique and exclusive science of soil secrets. We’re the only ones in the world to actually do this type of work. And we did it through a contract with national nuclear labs in New Mexico, a contract called a Commercial Proprietary Information contract, which means I own the information. The national labs do not own this. We simply just hire them to let us use their machinery, their analysis machinery, to do this research.

MARTIN: All right.

MICHAEL: Yeah. And so I have the knowledge, I have the formula, the recipe, if you will. To replicate these molecules in a manufacturing process so that they are bioidentical to what you find in nature.

MARTIN: Right.

MICHAEL: And that’s not what you’re going to find in Humic.

MARTIN: Right. So, for a typical family garden setting, how is it reflected in it’s cost effectiveness?

MICHAEL: Very cost effective. You’re talking pennies a square foot.

MARTIN: Okay.

MICHAEL: Not expensive at all.

MARTIN: All right. Awesome. And so is this applied every year, or how do you do that?

MICHAEL: Yeah, we generally recommend that it be applied at the beginning of each growing season. And unless you have really, really lousy soil. Where I live in New Mexico, and in the desert southwestern states, Arizona, New Mexico, Western Texas, Southern Utah, Nevada, you run into a lot of very alkaline soils that are high in sodium and high in salinity. And those might take some extra effort and a little bit more material than a better soil that you might find in Nebraska or Pennsylvania or someplace like that.

MARTIN: Yeah. Places that used to be a prairie. Right?

MICHAEL: Yes. Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. And so for a farmer, what’s that look like?

MICHAEL: Well, farming is different. With farming, we actually separate out the microbiology from the chemistry, and so we can actually sell a farmer, depending on what they need. We might sell them just the microrhisal fungi. Microrhisal are beneficial fungi that associate with the roots of plants, and that make the plant healthier and better able to sequester the minerals from the soil. So a lot of the minerals of the soil are not in a form the plant can utilize. They’re chemically bound up. Well, microrhisal fungi can unbound those minerals and make it accessible for the plant. So it might be what the farmer wants to use is the spores of the microrisal fungi, which they would dust on the seed before they plant that seed. And that’s going to cost the farmer roughly $27, $28 an acre to do that.

MICHAEL: And that might be the only thing that they do. But the farmer might also have some serious spots in their fields that have become very compacted from machinery or compacted from the soil collapsing on itself because of sodium. Sodium that came from the irrigation water, or maybe it was just native to that spot. And so we can put the carbon matrix molecules on that spot in the field, and it will open up the structure of the soil. And make it more porous so that the water can percolate through it and oxygen can penetrate down. And then we can grow something there. So we have to look at the needs of the farmer to make a decision as to which tool in the toolbox are we going to use.

MARTIN: Right. And of course, what they will see back from there is phenomenal yields. Right.

MICHAEL: Improved yields. Absolutely. For example, one of our clients is a large wine grower in Baja Mexico. And if you are not familiar with Baja Mexico, it’s desert. It’s extremely hot in the summer. It does not rain in the summer, and there’s no surface water. There’s no rivers to be able to harvest water from to be able to irrigate. So this means they have to pump water out of the ground in order to irrigate. And that water quality is not the best water. It’s generally high in salinity and sodium. So the longer that you irrigate with that type of water, the more salinity and sodium will accumulate in your soil until eventually you reach a point of cascading failure and you’re going to have to stop farming on that spot. So what we did with this wine grower is we put down the carbon matrix, which can correct those things.

MICHAEL: And this is what happened. Now, we put down a thousand pounds of this carbon per mile of drip irrigation line, or per mile of row grapes. And the irrigation frequency required to grow those grapes changed. From instead of the farmer or rancher, it was a ranch. Instead of them needing to irrigate once every five days, if they tried to go six days, the vines would begin to wilt and drop leaves. And so they had to irrigate every five days during the heat of the summer. And so instead of having to irrigate once every five days, they were able to stretch the irrigation out to once every 21 days. A huge change in the amount of water.

MARTIN: That’s gigantically different…

MICHAEL: Gigantic difference. And the yield, the tonnage production of grapes went up 59%.

MARTIN: Okay. So you get one and a half times the yield, and you get to use a quarter of the water.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Right. And the quality of the grapes improved also. So this really changed the economics of that particular ranch, making that ranch much more profitable.

MARTIN: So he’s practically kissing your feet, right?

MICHAEL: Yes. He treated the entire ranch. And so it works. And this is something that we are going to see happen everywhere in the western part of the United States where water is becoming an issue, where there’s a limited amount of water where the soil quality is changing because of salinization. And this by the way, salinization problem. The salting of the earth is worldwide.

MARTIN: Yeah. The word Carthage comes to mind. Romans carthage soil, they salted their soil. And that was the end of the empire.

MICHAEL: That was the end of the empire. Exactly. So we’re seeing a salinization of agriculture soils everywhere. We’re seeing it in India, China, Africa, South America, North America, Canada, everywhere. It’s happening everywhere. And the worse it gets, the closer we are to the end. And this is why I say food security, that is our imminent and immediate problem that we’re facing as a human race. And we better change our direction.

MARTIN: Yeah. So how do you relate to regenerative farming?

MICHAEL: Regenerative farming? We’re just more aggressive. And regenerative farming takes a slower pace attitude, that by doing common sense things, such as no till farming and using cover crops and compost, etc. That you’re going to get on the journey to better soil health. And that’s all well and good, we should be doing that. But we have an immediate need right now that requires a more immediate action. We got to be much more aggressive. The Soil Conservation Service what we now call the NRCS, the Natural Resource and Conservation Service, they changed the name a few years back. Very expensive process changing all the letterhead. But the Soil Conservation Service, which goes way back to the 1940s, even 1930s, basically was teaching and preaching regenerative farming.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: How successful has that been?

MARTIN: Well..

MICHAEL: Not very.

MARTIN: Well, the chemical industry has a lobby power, and unfortunately the subsidies are stacked in the wrong way. Right? It’s completely a congress fault, which is the money fault. Right? Money in politics will tilt the playing field and cause these, what shall we call them? Strategically failing decisions to be made. Right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. I mean, Soil Secrets is not a multiple billion dollar company. I can’t fund a large agriculture college at a university and build buildings for them. And so a large chemical company, and I’m not going to name any names, but you know what I’m talking about.

MARTIN: Yeah well, we know seven of them, right? Starts with Bayer and goes on down from there.

MICHAEL: And those are big companies that have lots of money, and they can build a large agriculture building for a university. They can fund research for, and there’s an expression that we use in science when you’re reading research, and the expression is consider the source.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: Right?

MARTIN: And in the old times, it was follow the money.

MICHAEL: And follow the money. So if I were to go to a university and say, study my science, and let me convince you that this is the right way to go and turn your back on that big agriculture, they’re never going to do it.

MARTIN: Of course not because the president of the university and the teaching staff, and half of the tuition is salted by this influence. Right?

MICHAEL: The endowments, the you know, who’s paying for that football program? And…

MARTIN: So, but here’s the funny part. We all are going to go hungry because of that.

MICHAEL: Mm-hmm. . Yeah, that’s right. That’s right.

MARTIN: So we are going to be without water, right? Like we already are watching the entire Colorado River basin going practically to nothing. Like the way I saw it is the farmland prices are dropping dramatically, right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. The Colorado River, the Rio Grande, which flows through New Mexico and provides water to Texas and Mexico. It’s compromised. They were over adjudicated in the first place, when they did the compacts, to divide up how much water is Colorado, Utah, Nevada, California, Arizona, and New Mexico going to get out of that rinky dink little river. They overestimated the capacity of that river. By a lot.

MARTIN: Well, like by factor of three. Yeah?

MICHAEL: Yes. And so they, now that we’ve seen this prolonged drought in the Colorado Rockies, we’re beginning to see the problem is going to be a serious problem. And the Colorado River can simply never has been able to meet the total adjudication of that river. They’ve never met it, but now there’s certainly not going to meet it. And the Rio Grande, same problem, the major reservoir of the Rio Grande that provides the water to Mexico and Texas is Elephant Butte Reservoir located in the center of New Mexico. And that poor thing is a puddle. It’s sitting at 5% of its capacity.

MARTIN: Oh my God.

MICHAEL: I may never live long enough to see it full again.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah. And then I of course, I get reminded of Central Valley in California, which has been pumping water from the aquifer and have seen soil subsidence of 20, 30 feet in places. Right. Which is, once you collapse it, the aquifer will not ever refill because it’s collapsed. Right?

MICHAEL: That’s right. Yeah. It’s a serious problem. And uh..

MARTIN: So we’re looking down at going hungry soon, what’s your timeline on that?

MICHAEL: Well, we’ve already lost approximately 60 million acres of agricultural land in the United States, since the middle 1950’s.

MARTIN: And 60 million…

MICHAEL: Well, the entire state of California, which is the largest agriculture state in the United States, has 27 million acres of agriculture.

MARTIN: So we’ve lost two Californias.

MICHAEL: We’ve lost two Californias in my lifetime.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: And so I think we’re going to see some some major problems in our ability to provide quality nutrition. Well, we’re not providing quality nutrition now anyway.

MARTIN: That ship has sailed already.

MICHAEL: That ship has sailed. And now it’s just going to get really really bad.

MARTIN: So I want to come back, circle back to this food security for, you know, our business is called Life Enthusiast. We try to tell people that supplementation is no longer optional. But now it’s time to start thinking, well what am I going to eat really? Because the only thing that’s going to be left is calories. Right. The wheat, soy, corn, potato, those will still be available.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: But the water hungry crops like almonds are going away. Right?

MICHAEL: Well, this is why you have to encourage your audience, and I have to encourage my audience that we cannot depend on the grocery store for our food. We need to begin growing our own food in our own yard, grow as much of it as you can. Because only then can you control the quality of that food. So that’s going to become an essential part of our life.

MARTIN: Yeah, we have the climate shift happening. There’s, I mean, poor northern Mexico is already in serious trouble with water. The rest we just mentioned, it’s in trouble with water. I don’t know how many years we have before significant food shifts, shortages start happening. Right?

MICHAEL: Yeah. It’s happening. It’s happening already. We’re starving to death. Our generation, I just buried an aunt yesterday who lived to 96, and her husband lived to 100. And my generation, her nephew, I’m her nephew, my brothers and sisters people of my generation, your generation, the baby boomers are probably not going to live as long as our parents.

MARTIN: Yeah. Because the nutrition’s just not as good.

MICHAEL: That’s right. And our children are probably not going to live as long as us, same problem.

MARTIN: Unless they change their ways.

MICHAEL: Unless they change their way. And so this is why I made a decision way back in early 1980s to change my career away from that company that is working with corporations trying to get their employees healthy. I changed my focus away from that and moved over to the bigger picture, which is soil health. You know, I have to work on giving an opportunity to farmers to fix the problem and provide them with good science. Good inputs, that are going to fix that problem. And that’s why Soil Secrets exist.

MARTIN: Mhmm. So the money that’s normally sent over to fertilizer or herbicide or pesticide or heavy machinery, because you need a bigger, stronger tractor because your soil’s so compacted, you can’t pull it with your 25 horsepower anymore. Right?

MICHAEL: That’s right.

MARTIN: All that money can be put back in the soil, just like you described one and a half times the yield and quarter the expense.

MICHAEL: That’s right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: Yeah. We can do it. We just have to be able to.. if you don’t know that a certain product exists, then you don’t have the opportunity to buy it.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: Right. So you need to know that that substance, that product, that material, that service or whatever, you got to know that it exists. And that requires marketing.

MARTIN: And here we are, this is a really interesting point where the media itself, you know the television channels, newspapers, Google, Facebook, the major ones, they all have been bought by the large corporations. And the same corporations that are promoting this death by chemistry are owning the medium. And so we are all stuck talking to one another here, trying to convince each other and the listeners as they come one at a time.

MICHAEL: Yes.

MARTIN: That they need to start thinking about their individual responsibility. And my own little pulpit is please people, remember that where you are voting with your wallet is really important. Because money is like oxygen in the economy. So wherever you put your money is, that’s what will expand. So if you push your money into chemical stuff, it will expand until it’ll collapse because it’s a death industry, not a life industry.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

MARTIN: I dunno, how would you say it?

MICHAEL: I would say it the same way.

MARTIN: All right.

MICHAEL: You know, I’m on the same page as you are.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: So we just have to use the platforms that are still available to us to be able to spread the message.

MARTIN: Yeah, and dust off the old grandmother recipes and the ways of before the industrial revolution took off like a mad horse. I have the same situation in the nutritional supplement ways where we are trying to get the message across, and we’re hampered every step where we go because of the economic pressures that I just mentioned. But you the listener would want to realize nutritional density supports life. You can either supplement it or create it.

MICHAEL: Yes. Right. But yeah, there’s no getting around it.

MARTIN: Yep. Soilsecrets.com, go there.

MICHAEL: Soilsecrets.com and visit us and contact us if you have questions, we’re very reachable. Been doing this a long time, longer than anyone else that I know of.

MARTIN: Yeah. The Victory Garden concept is going to be back, with vengeance.

MICHAEL: Yeah. I hope so. I’m about 20 miles south of the city of Albuquerque City. Albuquerque’s a city roughly of 700,000 people. And there’s a lot of independent single dwelling homes or single unit homes in Albuquerque. And I imagine everybody having a garden, everybody. Can you imagine how much food we can produce if everyone had a garden?

MARTIN: Yeah. If every house had a quarter acre of productive soil. Yeah.

MICHAEL: Anybody who’s ever grown a tomato plant discovers that they have more tomatoes than they can eat. And they’re giving tomatoes away to their friends and neighbors off of a single plant. So let’s just grow an entire cornucopia of food.

MARTIN: Yeah. The biggest challenge I have is the time.

MICHAEL: Well yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. Everything comes ripe at the same time. Like right now, for example in my area, there’s such abundance of fruit, you can’t possibly cope with it.

MICHAEL: You have to buy a dehydrator

MARTIN: I guess.

MICHAEL: So you have to do dehydration of your fruit. You have to can it. You have to get back to where we were a hundred years ago, or 200 years ago. It’s work. But you know, I go to the grocery store and I grab a single cart and go through and I pick up my essentials. The cart’s not even full, and I have a $300 bill.

MARTIN: Right.

MICHAEL: $300. I’m a single person, and I’m not feeding my children anymore, they’re grown. They’re adults and off on their own, and yet I have $300. And I’ll probably go back another three times a month at least.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: And so I’m looking at 900 to $1,200 a month in just essential groceries. Can you imagine a family, maybe the mother and a father are school teachers, and they’ve got three children. What kind of a grocery bill they have?

MARTIN: I know. I watch it.

MICHAEL: And now, you look at the cost of even driving to the grocery store. You know?

MARTIN: Yeah, that. Alright. I think we’ve made our point.

MICHAEL: Yeah. We made our point. So we got to simplify our lives.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Slow down Work a little less out there, and work a little more in here. Yes. And creating your own security.

MICHAEL: That’s right.

MARTIN: It is a good thing.

MICHAEL: That’s right.

MARTIN: All right. And you can grow it even in pots on the balcony and, and you can create soil beds on top of a building. It’s possible. It’s doable.

MICHAEL: I have many customers that do it that way, they don’t have a yard. They live in a townhouse, but they do have a patio and they do it in containers. So yeah, it’s exciting.

MARTIN: Alright. Michael Melendez Soilsecrets.com.

MICHAEL: Thank you, Martin.

MARTIN: This is Life Enthusiast. Life-enthusiast.com. Martin Pytela here, call me at (866)543-3388.

MICHAEL: Let’s do it again.

MARTIN: Thank you.

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Podcast 450: Predictions for 2023

Join Martin and his dear friend Scott wrap up the year 2022 and discuss their annual predictions for the new year. This episode is about all things related to the health of our society. Including politics, wellness, economics, history and the astrological forecast for 2023. Enjoy!

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MARTIN: Hi everybody, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast, and today I have decided to again invite
Scott Patton, my long-term collaborator to do one of our annual: “Let’s review the year that’s been, and
let’s look forward into the year that is coming our way.” Scott Patton, my good friend. Welcome!

SCOTT: Thank you, Martin. Happy to be here again! This is Life-Enthusiast Co-op, restoring vitality to you and the
planet.

MARTIN: Scott has got this wonderful radio voice that I do not possess.

SCOTT:. Thank you. I don’t think I do when I listen to myself, but I appreciate that. So yeah, we’ve been doing this sort of thing for 15 years.

MARTIN: At least. Yeah.

SCOTT: At least. Yeah.

MARTIN: We were really young guys when we started.

SCOTT: Oh my goodness, yeah.

MARTIN: I was just thinking back, my 70th birthday just went by a couple of weeks ago. And I’m thinking, oh my!
I’m clearly running out of excuses. Whatever I have not done, I might not finish in my lifetime.

SCOTT: That’s uh, yeah. My mom’s 90th birthday is coming up, and I remember on her 80th birthday, I
said to her, I can’t believe you’re 80! And she said, I can’t believe I have a 60 year old son.

MARTIN: Very clever of her! I asked my 80 something year old mother, do you remember yourself as 18?
And she says, absolutely. It’s all there as fresh as ever.

SCOTT: Yep, that’s right.

SCOTT: It’s been quite a…

MARTIN: And then I thought to myself..

MARTIN: Go on.

SCOTT: I was going to say it’s been quite a year, Martin. And I want to do a testimonial because I’ve been thinking
about this a little bit, and one of the reasons why I want to do it is because I have a friend who has
diabetes. And for the last two years he’s had blotches on his legs and he just recently, he was going to
hyperbaric I think, an oxygen therapy thing, that really helped him. And it got him to the point where he
could actually have an operation. He’s had a hole in his foot for two or three years. And of course, I
didn’t know this until he had his operation and he was healing. Right? And yeah, so it was like, for two
years I’ve been trying to heal this hole on my foot. And then they had an operation, I think they removed
a toe.

SCOTT: And I mean, so it was pretty serious stuff going on with him in, in terms of healing. And I, so
there, that was one conversation. And then the other part of this is what happened to me this year,
which I was bitten by a black widow spider in my back. And it was kind of like, oh, what’s that? And I
reached back and I pull this thing and I look at it and it’s like a bunch of really mean looking spider legs
and then a black body. And I, the way I held it, the legs fell off . So as I’m like looking at it this
close, right, and it had the, the red triangle thing, and I was like, but I didn’t know what a black widow
spider looked like. I just thought like, oh, you know, and I, a little bit it, little bit of an itch or whatever,
but no problem.

SCOTT: By the next day I was in bed pretty much unable to get up, sweaty, shaky, sicker than a dog. And in two
days, I had this much of my back was red, inflamed, infected. And so then I ended up spending about
seven or eight days in a hospital in Honduras. And they finally got super, super, like they had basically just
stuck a tube in here. And then they just put antibiotics in it, and it was amazing what other things that
have been bugging me for a long time were cleared up by the antibiotics . So like Oh! I
no longer have this going on, or I don’t have that going on with the antibiotics. Finally got rid of that, but
you know, minor little things. But they finally got all the puss and everything into one place and then
they did an operation and they cut a hole, no word of a lie, it was that long. (Describes length of hole
with his hands)

SCOTT: And basically the height of my finger and the depth of my finger. Underneath our skin, we look like a
good steak. I can totally get cannibalism now that I couldn’t get before. And of course, I told my friend
who’s gone through all this stuff for the last few years about it. And so I basically had wide open interior
flesh exposed to air and bacteria and everything that’s in the air. So every day I’d have to go in. Well,
after a little while of just being in the hospital, they said, you can go home. And every day I’d have to go
back and they would clean it. Yep and then after a month, and every so often they’d take a
picture and it would get a little bit smaller, a little bit smaller. So in about a month and a half it had
closed up.

SCOTT: So I don’t know if that’s good, bad or indifferent. But my friend is going, oh my god! You heal really fast,
because I’ve had the same sort of problem and it’s been two years. Yeah . And I just think,
oh my god, I am so glad I don’t have two years of doing this. Right? And so then it’s like, well, why did
this heal so well and heal so quickly? Right. And part of it is, in my mind I’m going, I love you hole in my
back, please get better, heal. And I’m visualizing it healing. And so there’s a mental and emotional aspect
to it, and a spiritual aspect to it I guess too. Because I would pray for my health. But then there’s the
physical part of it, right? Like, I couldn’t shower. Well, I could shower, but I could only shower like half my
body. , and you know, what I eat and that sort of stuff.

SCOTT: But I think that a big, big part of it is two products that Life Enthusiast has that I just think are lifesaving
products. And I have one of them with me right now, it’s Lazarus. It’s the most expensive superfood that
Life Enthusiast has. And it was designed to rebuild the body when a whole bunch of s*** the fan. And
I’ve been, I don’t know if it’s four years, five, like when did you, whenever it came out, I started getting it.
I went from Iridesca to this, right? Yes. Because I figured if Jevari was gonna make this to
keep him healthy as healthy could be, and it had everything he thought in, you know, like his expertise
and his knowledge and his history and his everything. Yeah. And his sons, then I’m going to
go with that for as long as I can afford it. And so this is something that for the last, is it five years now?
It’s got to be five years.

MARTIN: It’s been that long.

SCOTT: Yeah. So for five years, I would say, seven to eight bottles a year. Because there’s been months where I
miss it. Right. Like I run out. Yeah. And then it takes a while to get it and all
the rest of it. And also I think you should take a break. Like, I’m not sure that you should eat this. Like you
shouldn’t eat an apple a day for every day of your life. You’d probably be okay. But you know, take a
week off. And so there’s been some months where I haven’t had this,

MARTIN: There’s seasonality. Yeah. There is seasonality in nature, and we should have seasonality in our foods.

SCOTT: Right. And part of that is just listening to the body. Cause there are times when I’ve had the Lazarus here,
and my habit is in the morning, that’s my breakfast. But there are mornings where I go, I don’t even
really think about it. It’s just kind of like, no I’m not having it this morning. So you know, speaking to the
seasonality, like you don’t want to be obsessive over it, but I really feel like this is one of the products
that really has helped me come back from that injury. The other one, and I’ve just got here, I’m in Florida
right now from Panama, and I haven’t fully unpacked. And so in my clothes wrapped somewhere is Nano
Soma .

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: I was afraid I was going to get it wrong. And I’ve been taking that, I don’t know how long now, but easily six
or eight months. Yeah. Just in the morning and in the evening, three or four or five sprays in my mouth.
And I don’t understand it at all, but all I know is what Martin told me. And I totally trust Martin with my
life, and my soul and everything else, so. He said it’s going to help repair any DNA damage and fix things
up. And so my second story is, for the last seven or eight or nine years I’ve had sore knees. And it’s not
unusual for people my age to have sore knees. One of my knees, it’s like a needle sticking in it sometimes
when I’m walking, when I’m going uphill or when I’m going downhill.

SCOTT: And to my shock and amazement, I walk pain free. And I don’t know if it’s walking along the beaches and
grounding in the last six months. .

MARTIN: That helps. It helps. Absolutely.

SCOTT: Feeling the salt water against my ankles and stuff, and the odd big wave that I misjudge hitting my knees
and splashing on them. But I think between the Nano Soma and the Lazarus, that whatever’s going on
with my knees is really improved it. Like I just can’t believe I’m walking and I’m not, and of course these
are things that you don’t think about. Unless you really stop and say, okay what were my knees like, two
years ago? Oh yeah. Like, I remember that was really painful going up that hill or going down that hill
because it just happens and then you just think, oh yeah my knees are fine.

SCOTT: I don’t even think about it. And then you don’t realize what you’ve got. Yeah. I’m really,
really grateful for these two products. I think there could be other ones that like the Turmeric, the squirty
turmeric thing. Yeah. But these are the two that I’m going to blame. Yeah. I
can put it that way, because I really feel like they have made a total difference. And to the point, where
I’m staying right now, a very good friend of mine has had stem cell injections. And I was telling her about
my knees and she says, oh yeah! This would be perfect, you get the stem cells into your knees. And so I
was looking into it and all the rest of it, and to be quite honest, I want to be as natural and organic and
unpruned as possible. . Right? Like, I don’t want people sticking stuff into me if I can avoid it.

MARTIN: Well, the stem cell thing is not a bad idea. It’s quite ecological, but it’s about $6,000. I don’t know if she
mentioned that.

SCOTT: Oh, where she goes it’s closer to 10 or 20, but I mean, it’s still, okay,

MARTIN: Well then each, right? Six each. The sets 12. Right?

SCOTT: Right. Yeah, yeah. Each time you do it. And I would rather just spend the money on Lazarus and Nano
Soma and not have to do that.

MARTIN: There’s one other thing that I wish that I knew about your friend and his hole in the foot. We do have a
product under the skin sorcery label, called Trauma Gel. And Trauma Gel is actually helping people who
have these unhealed openings to heal over and clear. I mean, we’ve had a guy with a hole this big size of
a half dollar on the bottom of his foot. And two months later, it’s healed over. Not two years, right? And
these people especially with diabetes, they do have a horrendous time with healing. They don’t heal
well.

SCOTT: I’ll tell them, I’ll tell them. And I’m glad you brought that up. Trauma gel is one of the most important things
I have with me when I travel, because if you get a scrape or a scratch or whatever, you’re in a foreign
environment, who knows. And so I’m constantly putting it on small holes, or on my legs, and
mosquito bites and all the rest of it. And once it had got to the point where it had kind of healed over,
then I started putting it on my back. Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Your spider wound is what now? A scar about four inches long kind of thing?

SCOTT: Yeah. Yeah.

MARTIN: That’s what killed Jevari. You know, Jevari had a spider bite.

SCOTT: Oh, I didn’t know that.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Which that evolved into this something that was the size of an avocado under his skin. And it
didn’t get treated right, instead of lancing it and sucking it out, the doctors squeezed it. But in the
process of squeezing it, it actually burped back into the body rather than out of the body. So he now had
circulating poisons and the after effect of the poisons, and then he developed a flesh eating
staphylococcal. When staphylococcal gets inside you, rather than just on the surface that’s known as the
flesh eating disease. Once that was inside him, they were going to amputate his leg. And then they know
they put him on crazy antibiotics, mm-hmm. and Cipro is one of them that they used, and
that unfortunately has many side effects. And in his case, it killed his kidneys and his pancreas.

MARTIN: I was very lucky then, because one of the things that the surgeon said is that we took out a lot of flesh
because it just looked like it was being eaten.

MARTIN: That was necrosis. Yeah, it was necrosis.

SCOTT: Yeah. So they just took a big slice and they just scraped it out. Yep. It was really weird going
under, I think that was the only time I’ve ever gone, you know, they put you on gas and then you’re just
out. Right. And it’s kind of like, yeah, yeah just sort of breathe normally. I say okay, when is this gonna
happen? And the next thing I know, it’s over and I’m awake and they’re done.

MARTIN: You’re waking up from the narcosis. Yep.

SCOTT: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, Martin. Just wanted to say thank you very much. It was American
Thanksgiving just a week or two ago, and the work that you’re doing with Lazarus and the other products
that you have in your store from the…

MARTIN: So here you are telling a story of humanity and how fragile we are, and how thin the interface is
between, I’m doing okay and I’m doing not okay. And I’m going to probably die. Like this could have been
a terminal event for you.

SCOTT: Yeah, absolutely.

MARTIN: Yeah. But for some reason, your mission is not done, thank God.

SCOTT: I think this is the reason. That’s just me.

MARTIN: Okay. That’s cool. And so your story of venoms reminds me of course, of the recent discoveries of the
alternative health practitioners who have finally figured out that thing that came at us from Wuhan
China, that has been so popular with the scare mongers of the world, has not been a natural thing. It has
been developed in a lab, in a military operation. And most of the things that come with it are in fact
peptides, that are copies of what’s in these toxic elements. They’re called venoms. And these venoms
are from spiders, from snakes, and from cone shells, which are toxic or poisonous under the sea
creatures.

SCOTT: Mm-hmm.

MARTIN: And so these things are now distributed either through the aerosolized transmission of the thing that we
would call natural, which is in the wild. Or are being injected through this, what they call mRNA
messenger or ribonucleic acid. And what’s happening with that then, is we’re transmitting venoms from
one person to another. And so your example of course, getting a super high dose shows just how sick you
can get.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Well, turns out that many people are now getting significantly affected by these things because these
venoms are accumulating in your brain, your sex organs and your heart and your gut, your kidneys can
overcome it. It does accumulate in the kidneys, but the kidneys actually somehow neutralize it. So it
turns out that the natural antidote, gross as it may seem, is taking some of your own urine and recycling
it back because it has in it the antidotes that you need.

SCOTT: Right. And it’s not just for this, we’ve talked about urine before and how people can use it to heal
themselves.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. It’s a homeopathic messenger that tells you, or tells the rest of your body what it needs to
know.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: So you just pee into a glass and have a sip? Yeah. You have to drink like two liters of it, or…?

MARTIN: No, no, no. Just a small amount, just I don’t know, a shot glass, one or two ounces. But what’s interesting
is that it’s more palatable when cold.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So you can just collect it and refrigerate it and use it that way.

SCOTT: Oh, okay.

MARTIN: It’s something that I’m having a hard time with. It’s a cultural thing, but…

SCOTT: It is very much a cultural thing. Yeah. These sort of things take time, a little bit of dedication and being
around people that are also doing it, I think helps. Yeah. And the reason that I say that is in
many places in Central and South America, you don’t flush the toilet down the toilet. Toilet paper, I
mean, right? So you do your business in the toilet, you wipe yourself, now you’ve got this piece of toilet
paper with a whole bunch of stuff on it that you don’t really wanna talk about, and you put it in a small
garbage can beside the toilet because the paper will clog up and no one will be able to flush the toilet.
And so I know some people that have, there’s been a few places I’ve been where I said, like, do you or
don’t you? And they say, oh well, we’re supposed to not, but we do because we just can’t get over it.
Yeah. Whereas after five years of being in Central and South America, doesn’t matter to me at
all. In fact, if I keep looking, and the question is, should I or shouldn’t I? And if I’m not sure well, I don’t
want to insult my host by leaving a pile of soiled toilet paper in the garbage .

MARTIN: However, it’s the sign of caring that you’re not clogging his toilet.

SCOTT: . Exactly. Exactly. But I agree with you, like the idea of drinking my own urine is, makes me ready
to just sort of, I feel nauseous, just thinking about it.

MARTIN: It’s a bit of a gag. Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. And just start slow. Which reminds me, so here is today’s quiz, question of the day. What is Maca
good for? M A C A.

MARTIN: Well, Maca is a metabolic stimulant, right? Maca grows in very high elevation, 14,000 feet. It has within it
the resilience of having to overcome the harshness of that environment. So with it comes the message of
increasing resilience. So when it raises your resilience and metabolic capacity, all things function better.
So of course, it’s typically known to raise your virility, ability to perform sexually. But it also raises your
metabolic and athletic ability.

SCOTT: So if you want to exercise more and lose weight, it’s a good thing to take.

MARTIN: Yeah, definitely that.

SCOTT: Okay. So one of the things that happens folks, is when I go to the Life Enthusiast website, and I just
started doing this actually, is you have a wish list. A function of a wish list, you see something you like,
you can hit the heart and it’ll go into your wishlist, and then you don’t have to search for it ever again. So
I’ve only known and been around the Life Enthusiast website for 15 or 17 years, and in the last six
months I thought, why am I always searching for the stuff I want? And then I never remember all the
stuff I want. Why don’t I just like, make the wishlist? So I started making the wishlist, and one of the
things that happens then is I look through the wishlist, and I’m looking for Lazarus and Nano Soma for
sure. And then what else do I kind of want?

SCOTT: And you’ve got a line of just absolutely amazing herbal extracts. And Maca is one of them. So I just
ordered it, and this is not thinking I need it because of this, that, or the other thing. This is really kind of
a feeling thing. Like if you ask me why, I couldn’t answer you why, but I just really wanted it. The delivery
was to this place, I’ve been here like two days. So the last two days I’ve had this little bottle of Maca. And
I have to tell you Martin, it tastes like horse piss to me. Not having ever tasted horse piss, but I
think it tastes like horse piss.

MARTIN: It’s horrible. .

SCOTT: It is. Yeah! It’s just got that, where’s the donkey, pissing on me? Right. But there was something in my
body that said, we need this maca stuff. Right.

SCOTT: And so every once in a while, it’s been, I think probably over a year since I’ve had had a bottle of it. I just
feel like, and there’s a few other ones I don’t recall off the top of my head that every once in a while I go,
yeah I need to get this. Not I need to get this, It’s kind of like, you know, the craving for ice cream? Yeah.
Oh, it’s eight o’clock at night, I need to have a bowl of ice cream, or a cookie or something.
Well, it’s like way subtler than that, but it’s just that little voice. It says, you know what you need to have.

MARTIN: It’s a little nag, a little nudge.

SCOTT: Yeah. A little nag, a little nudge. And so yeah, I got nagged, I got nudged, and I got it. And I’m happy that I
got it.

MARTIN: Well, you work stronger, I don’t know what. Stay up late, abuse yourself a little more.

SCOTT: So don’t take it like two hours before bed or I’ll be buzzed. You want to take it earlier in the day, right?

MARTIN: Yeah, for sure.

SCOTT: I learned that with, Iridesca is a stimulant too, right?

MARTIN: Yes, it is. It will keep you awake.

SCOTT: Yeah. When I was in Coquitlam, it’d be like eight o’clock, I’d be kind of tired. And I wasn’t thinking about
being stimulated. I was just thinking, I’m going to have my Exsula product before I go to bed, and then
it’d be two in the morning, and I would be like wide awake from like, when I drank it till two in the
morning. And working away like crazy, and then going to bed and getting up at six. It’s just insane! So
make sure that you check with Martin, when the best time to take it is because you don’t, you want to
take stuff that gets you a good night’s sleep, because ten to two is when you’re circadian rhythm jumps
in and you want to do all your healing.

MARTIN: Here’s the one you would want to take in the evening. (Shows bottle of Aurasil to the camera)

SCOTT: AuraSil.

MARTIN: Or all the other green ones. We have the Excela-50, or we have the AuraGreens, but they are based on
green things, and chlorophyll is the para-sympathizing nutrient. So it activates the rest, repair, digest, the
parasympathetic side. Oh, okay. It’ll allow the restful phase of our existence, rather than
the stimulated side of being. Cool. So when you’re ready to shut it down, take the green
ones. When you’re ready to fire it up, take the purple ones.

SCOTT: . Okay. Oh, so one last thing, actually, two last things. Remind me about spoons if I forget the
spoon story. Okay, now this tastes good. (Shows bottle of Lazarus to the camera) Yes. If
you’ve tasted Iridesca, I describe it as drinking mud, it just does. And it’s exactly, if you got some
mud, put it in a glass and drank it, you would probably say it tastes better than Iridesca. But Iridesca
works, that’s the important thing. Yeah. But this has a great blueberry taste, and it tastes
delicious. Yeah. And Martin and I have obviously have had lots of conversations about lots
of products, and I have my own opinions on what he should be doing and what he shouldn’t be doing.
And before this came out, I was Iridesca, Iridesca, and Strata-Flora mostly, and they always had spoons in
them. And I said to him, they’re plastic spoons! The environment, get rid of the spoons. And he said, no,
people don’t know what size of spoon and should I use a spoon or what? So we put the spoon in as a
convenience for our customers, and blah, blah, blah. And I go yeah, well okay. It’s your business., do
whatever you want. There’s no spoon in this. Martin, and I miss the spoon.

MARTIN: I put my foot down and I said, we’re done with the spoons. And there is no chance that there is no spoon
in the kitchen drawer where you are going to use this. Find the spoon in the drawer.

SCOTT: I’m in a hotel room. I’m in a hotel room, and there’s nothing. There’s just a glass and some water and
this. And it’s like, I got no spoon!

MARTIN: Oh my god.

SCOTT: I just poured it. So anyway, I had to laugh because here I am telling you, no spoon, no spoon, no spoon,
for years! Oh man. It’s like, oh there’s no spoon!

MARTIN: I just cannot win. . I just cannot win.

SCOTT: But I have to tell you that you can actually pour it slowly, like it doesn’t come streaming out or anything.
And that’s what I ended up doing for two days. As I would just watch it clearly, pop, so it’s not exactly a
spoon. Yeah. I mean, it was never exactly a spoon full before anyway. One of the things I
love about all the Exsula products is you can just stir it and it’ll mix in. Unlike when you get a lot of these
chalky powdered protein drinks where you need a blender to actually get it to work.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: So that’s really cool.

MARTIN: So that’s a fairly long commercial, but thank you.

SCOTT: . But wait, there’s more.

MARTIN: There is. And so, I wanted to do a recap, and I wanted to do a look forward as it relates to the astrology,
because I have been using these talks..

SCOTT: Oh, yeah. You keep telling me about what’s happening in the new year based on where Saturn and
Jupiter are.

MARTIN: And stuff like that. And so I’ve been…

SCOTT: Stuff like that.

SCOTT: I feel like I have recapped the year. There’s been a lot of health problems, a lot of sickness. And for me,
this has been a major help.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: And I’m looking forward to a strong, healthy 2023 now that I’ve got all this stuff behind me.

MARTIN: Yep. You probably will be. And for the last many years, since 2008, we’ve been talking about Pluto and
Capricorn and how it’s dealing with the societal things, right? Because Pluto is the principle of
transformation and the evolutionary forces and transformative forces of life and death. Right? Pluto is
actually killing that which needs to die so that it can be reborn. The principle of the phoenix, right? Being
reborn from the flames. And so in Capricorn, that is coming to a close now. It’s about transformation of
social structures, of corporations, of authority, of established hierarchies, and all of that is just almost
cooked up. So what happens is the following, Pluto is leaving Capricorn in March of 23, 23rd of March,
and then it goes back in June, and then it leaves for good into Capricorn in June 2023, sorry on January
2024.

MARTIN: So what I’m trying to say here is we now have the last three months of the full stay of Pluto and
Capricorn. So focusing on corporations, authorities, social structures, established hierarchies, this is the
crescendo. And then when we sneak out for three months between March and June, we are going to get
a glimpse of Aquarius, and then it’s all going to finish up. So 2023 is about cleaning up this whole thing
about the social structures and authority and hierarchy and all of that. So I reckon that we might not see,
it tends to leave nothing standing. That the best metaphor for Pluto I have is your sifting the ashes of
your burnt down buildings for the nails that are left behind.

SCOTT: So all these super authoritarian people are going to be moving on?

MARTIN: It’s definitely now coming to ahead. This is the time. So I don’t know whether it’s all going to go for the la
la la force of good democracy wins, or if it’s going to be, oh shoot we are all now stuck in a fascist
communist authoritarian hell of…

SCOTT: Super control

MARTIN: 1984 style as George Orwell would put it. Right. Big brother misery. However.

SCOTT: So there’s either gonna be a new hope or the empire’s going to strike back.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. And so now this first glimpse into Pluto in Aquarius is going to be transformation of the rules
and the social norms that hold the society together. Mmmm Ideas about humanity, how
we use science, how we use technology. Is technology in fact the thing that is something we should trust
or rely upon, right? Right. So we’re going to be seeing now..

SCOTT: I can totally see that. I can totally see a huge rejection of technology, because it has been used for such
evil in the past few years. Yep. Going past, not just the last two years, but even going, you
know, beyond that. But we’re also seeing, like Elon Musk and Twitter, who knows how that’s all gonna
shake out. But he’s basically come out and said, well you know, they were censoring the other side, there
was one side, that they were on, and if you were on the other side, they were censoring you like crazy.
And we know Facebook and YouTube were banning people for people who were against..

MARTIN: Oh, they’re totally in the pocket of the rulers, the controllers, those who want to promote their
narrative. I mean to outline it, right. Money in politics is the thing number one. Here’s how it happens.
Yep. When you have money, you can buy lobbying. And with lobbying you can buy
influence. And because people in politics are wanting to be reelected, they go begging for money
because they need to campaign. This is the screw up that we have created. Is that right? Instead of
having public money or no money or whatever.

SCOTT: Well, and now with technology, you could have Zoom meetings and people could just tune into your
Zoom meetings and ask questions, and you can reach everybody almost free.

MARTIN: Yes. That part. But you still are wanting to get money from people who have money, and instead of
raising it $5 at a time from and everybody, you just go for the whale. And you want to raise yourself a big
chunk of money, and you become beholden to that benefactor because you will want to go back to
them.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Right? Right. And because of the promise of, I’ll do this again. Then you want to do what
they would want you to do.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So if your benefactor is the people with money, and they’re the pharmaceutical companies, then you will
write the stuff and vote for the stuff that does not cross them. And the same thing happens in the
media, because the pharmaceutical companies are the biggest advertiser in a non-election year. Then
the station manager and the owner of the media will say, you cannot put this report out. That’s going to
upset them, because they would stop advertising here, so it doesn’t even get out. So we have these
parrots going, safe and effective, safe and effective. And yet it’s nothing like that. It’s neither safe nor
effective. That’s right. It’s been proven in court of law that it damages people. And it’s been
proven by statistics in science that it doesn’t do much like the one that was sold to us as 95% effective.
That’s a relative benefit. The absolute benefit was 0.86%, meaning…

SCOTT: You got to love statistics. Right? You can make numbers mean whatever you want.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. Lie with numbers.

SCOTT: Lie with numbers. So true.

MARTIN: Okay. So, you know, money in politics is the issue. Money in economy is the issue, and the solution really
is to vote with your wallet. Wherever you spend your money is the oxygen of the economy. So whatever
you support, whatever you buy, whatever you send money to, is going to grow. And that which you will
not is going to wither. So be very careful with your wallet, because whatever you spend money with or
on is what you’re voting for.

SCOTT: Yep. And uh..

MARTIN: But anyway, so I wanted to go back. Yeah. I wanted to go back to this. Yeah. I wanted to go back to this
thing, which the line is this: We may see an uprising and a rebellion against the oppression that has
taken hold in some parts of the world under Capricorn. We need a new vision of society and in the
future, and what works for people and the planet as a whole. So, under Pluto, in Aquarius, we can expect
social and technological revolutions. And I’ll give you some examples. What happened in the world when
Pluto was in Capricorn, Pluto was in Aquarius previously, so that’s what’s the piece.

SCOTT: Yes. Let’s look at history and see if it repeats.

MARTIN: It was the year 312 when Constantine, accepted Christianity. There was one thing. The next time, it was
in 1286 to 1308, all the cathedral building, but also the English common law was codified. Or the next
time, 1532 to 1553, Henry vii Anglicans in France, the Protestants in science. Copernicus came out in 48
and said, the system is heliocentric, but also Machiavelli put out the book Prince, right? Showing how
you can enslave the world. And then the next one, 1777 to 1797, you’re looking at the edge, right? 1776,
it was still in Capricorn. 1777, it went into Aquarius. United States was born. The Constitution in the
middle of it, 1789 Bastille Day, French peasants just totally over overthrew the rulers.

SCOTT: The king of France. Yeah. Marie-Antoinette.

MARTIN:
The revolution got going in those years. Right? Right. Catherine the great in Russia,
instituting reforms. Ending of the, what are they called? There was the regime of the feudal society where a villager was actually bound to the village, right? And you owned the village and all the people in it, so that that rule was abolished. So people were free to move anywhere they wanted to go.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: But there will be no sudden shift into a liberal and progressive paradise of freedom and equality, like
we’re going to have to work for it.

SCOTT: You’re such a pessimist.

MARTIN: No, no, no, no, no. Nothing’s given free. You have to work for it. Like there will be new ideas coming in,
and we have to work together and we have to work collaboratively and in friendship, and we have to
work, you know, you cannot ask for freedom. That’s sort of like sheep asking the wolf to let them go.

SCOTT: Right. Not gonna happen.

MARTIN: No. Yeah. There needs to be, I don’t know, a stampede . So there will be increase in the desire
for reform.

SCOTT: So around the world Martin, we’re seeing that. You talked about stampedes, you know. Mm-hmm.
In Canada, we have the trucker convoy.

MARTIN: Yeah. They got restless. Yeah.

SCOTT: Yeah. We have the trucker convoy that happened in the United States as well, that didn’t get quite the
same type of publicity, but throughout Europe and now in Brazil with their latest election, you’ve got
millions and millions of people that are out on the street demanding change. Yeah. Or
saying, you know, we don’t accept this the way it is. Yeah. Like, you’ve got to change.

MARTIN: Yeah. And this has to do with Saturn in Aquarius. Saturn is a planet of realism or a reality of hard facts
and whatever. And it has been in Aquarius, but it’s now ending. Saturn was out and is returning to
Aquarius on 17th of December, and we’ll be there until March 7th, 2023. Last time Saturn was in,
Aquarius was in 1991 to 1993. Russia fell part, the whole communist experiment went to hell and all of
that. So we stand a chance then, in these next three or four months, we’re going to see this blown out.
Because Saturn in Aquarius will build new structures, bring people together, exchange visionary ideas,
humanitarian values, and also massive innovations in science and technology and changes in political
systems around the world. Right?

SCOTT: Nice. Nice.

MARTIN: So this is a big deal. We stand a chance of it happening. Please. .

SCOTT: Yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: Right?

SCOTT: We need our freedoms back.

MARTIN: So we need to be unafraid to step up and ask, and not just ask, but act.

SCOTT: And demand.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, when we get…

SCOTT: The government is supposed to be the servant of the people, and right now the government is acting like
the people are its servants.

MARTIN: Yeah, exactly. That is correct. So the slave has upper hand over the ruler by refusing to comply.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: I mean, this happened in the unionization movement, right? Back in, I don’t know, 1910, 1920, there
abouts. When the workers got together and unionized and said, nope, you do not get to treat us like
whatever you treated us. Right. And the only tool they have is that they can lay down tools.
Right? Right. They refuse the service.

SCOTT: Yeah. And there’s an interesting thing about that idea laying down the tools and not complying versus
rioting. Because I’m absolutely convinced that the powers that be are quite happy if you riot. Because it
gives them an excuse to send in guns and police and tear gas and cause all sorts of havoc and beatings
and everything else. But when you just stand there and don’t do anything.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is where Gandhi had it figured out. Right? Right. Peaceful resistance with dignity.
Yeah. No, you can’t make me.

SCOTT: Yeah. And yeah.

MARTIN: No, I’m not going to wash your toilet. No I’m not going to feed your children. Go do it yourself.

SCOTT: Yep.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: And I think that was a major reason why there was so little violence in Ottawa during the trucker’s
convoy, was the people were there very clear in their purpose, in their mission and in their desire for
peace. And that they weren’t there to destroy, unlike the previous summer in the United States, a
number of cities were just burning to the ground practically. It seemed, anyway, you know, and of course
that was a totally different type of protest.

MARTIN: Yeah. That was a movement. Well, yeah, I don’t even want to label it. The way I understand it, it was
largely supported by the shadowy movers behind the scenes fermenting that thing. Right? As you said it,
you said it correctly, it really suits the ruler really well when there is a conflagration because they can
step in and just say, the only way we can deal with this is to put out the flames.

SCOTT: Honestly. Yeah. Meet violence with violence. Yeah.

SCOTT: They don’t know what to do. They really don’t know what to do when you’re just sitting there. I mean,
they’ll take a few people, there’s always sacrificial lambs. They’ll take a few people and put ’em in jail and
I’m sure they’ll beat a few people, but they can’t beat 10,000 people standing there doing nothing. Yeah.

MARTIN: This is how East Germany collapsed. I think it was 1989, where previously the East Germans were
somewhat compliant and just putting up with it. But in the summer of 89, they’d had enough and they
started leaving by the tens of thousands. They just climbed into their little Trabant cars and stared
driving into Hungary. And Hungary had so many people at the border with Austria, they said: “The heck
with it! You can go, we don’t care. You’re not our citizens leave!” They just opened it up.

SCOTT: Oh. I didn’t know that.

MARTIN: Yeah. In Czech Republic, in Prague. The German embassy, which I was at, I visited it. I mean, I know it
well. Is a compound, that’s something like maybe two acres. There were 2000 people in there, it was
unbelievable. And they would pull up one another over the wall. The wall is something like 10 feet high
wall. So you need to lean down and grab the person by the hand and hoist them up over the wall into
the compound. Wow. And of course, the embassy is a sovereign territory of the other
country, right? So the West Germany had the thousands and thousands of these East Germans staying
there, they couldn’t leave. Right. But they were on the sovereign soil of the “Free
Germany.” So eventually it all just opened up and it collapsed, and the rest is history, right? The Berlin
wall was canceled and checkpoint Charlie was opened and then was it. And I reckon that something like
that is coming for this vaccination doctrine. I think something like this is coming for the gaslighting
censorship doctrine. Yeah. All of this will eventually be revealed and be served up as lies.
Just lies.

SCOTT: Yeah. It seems to be happening like right now. There’s different news that I’ve seen. Well, I’ve actually
been shocked at the Canadian media, because they have, a lot of them in my opinion, well maybe I
should say some of them. But like the National Post, and even the CBC are running things that are very
critical of the government and of the leadership in the government. Mm-hmm. . And I’m
just like, wow. I just, I’m shocked because after two years of just saying whatever the government said
was right, they’re now starting to question things. And CNN they’ve had a major coup. There’s a new
president or whatever, and he’s been firing a ton of people who are very political in their opinions and
they let that into the news. And he’s on the record of saying, we want to be a news company, not a arm
of a political part of the country.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MARTIN: And this is going to be the difficult thing for them, because of course, what’s his name? The Vanderbuilt
boy, I can’t think of his name. . Oh man. Oh, the silver haired announcer. Can you think of this
word? Oh, well it doesn’t matter. Anyway, the sponsor of his program is Pfizer.

SCOTT: Right. All of their sponsors are Pfizer’s. And I mean, there’s so many shows, it’s Pfizer. And they seem to,
hopefully they’re willing to say, you know what? This was what we’re gonna do. If you want to be part of
the sponsorship, go ahead. If not, we’ll find someone else. And it all comes down to money.

MARTIN: It’s going to be challenging for them, right? Because of course it takes money to run this show. Right. So
if you lose your…

SCOTT: That’s the interesting thing too though, right? Like, so here’s an example. I’m going to sponsor Life
Enthusiast. I happen to have a billion dollars, so I’m going to give you a million dollars a year as a
sponsorship. What are you going to do? You’re going to say, wow, I can buy a bigger house. I can buy a
bigger car. I can hire 3000 people and pay them twice as much as I was paying them before. So you stick
yourself into a corner where you need the sponsorship, right? Yep. I think whereas if you
now all of a sudden the sponsorship goes, what do you do? Well, you say to everybody, like we don’t
have any money, and a bunch of you have to leave and hopefully some of you will go back to your old
wages. And if you can’t, then I guess I’ll just have to replace you and retrain somebody else.

SCOTT: And so you have in this whole media TV world, what athlete is worth 200 million dollars a year in
basketball? But they get paid that. Right. Why do they get paid that? Well, they get paid that because the
revenues are so high that nobody cares that they get 200 million. Right? Yeah. Well, what if
the revenues drop to 1%? Now he gets 2 million. Well, is he really that much worse off? Well, yeah he’s
probably gonna be, he ‘s spoiled and everything else, but you know, sorry, there’s nobody willing to pay
you 200 million anymore. And so I think that whole, well we can’t afford it, is all because you’re paying
$10,000 an hour for a cameraman when you could pay him a hundred bucks an hour. But because you
had all this Pfizer money, you have this wage inflation going o, right? Do they need to live in a house
that’s got 25 bedrooms? I don’t think so. Right. So this whole money thing..

MARTIN: I don’t know if you’re right about that as far as the scope of it that you’re suggesting. I don’t think that
they live that richly, but yes, they do get superstar status.

SCOTT: There are people. Yeah, there are people, I mean I just think it’s crazy in baseball and basketball when
you hear, oh The Blue Jay’s signed this guy and he looks like, what? Why are they paying that guy that
much to hit a ball? Right? Like, I don’t mind being paid well, but these are stupid numbers.

MARTIN: Yeah. I think it has to do with the revenue that the fellow is able to generate or help generate.

SCOTT: Right. I mean, well yeah, everyone comes. But in a lot of cases, like the Vancouver connects, right? I
mean, they haven’t won anything in ever, and they’re usually having a bad losing season and they’re still
full. Right? Rogers still pays them a fortune to show the games on tv and they don’t have the playoff
revenue. And that’s sad. So I just think that you can, we’re going to be going into a deflationary period,
because one of the things that they’re going to have to say is, Pfizer you can’t sponsor everything. Right?
You’ve got all this money and you can’t get away with gouging the public by charging a hundred dollars
for a pill.

MARTIN: Well, that’s an interesting one, right? So Pfizer is standing to make billions because they have created
this environment in which they separated the customer from the payer.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: The government is paying, they’re paying $80 for a vaccine that they call a vaccine. Which is actually not,
mRNA shot, $80 for free to everybody because we are in panic. We are just dying without it. No, we’re
not. But the hysteria!

SCOTT: What happens is the health authorities, the government health authorities, the bureaucrats, are in their
pocket. I mean, they’re going to go and get hired by Pfizer or some other company when they decide
they don’t want to work for the government anymore. And so you’ve kind of, it’s the same thing with
education, right? Why are all these people having a hundred thousand dollars student debts loans, right.
Or a hundred thousand dollars debt, student loans. Well, it’s because they go to the college, the college
says you can go for three years, don’t worry about it. We’re going to be able to sign a loan. These people
couldn’t get a house loan, but they can get a student loan. So what’s that all about? Right? And because
you’ve got the student loan, it’s oh don’t worry! It’s a couple hundred bucks a month for 10 or 20 years,
you’ll be fine. You’ll make so much more money in your job, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

SCOTT: So what happens then is tuitions go up, they pay the professors’ exorbitant amounts of money.
Yeah. It’s the same thing happening there that’s happening in the medical, and it’s just like
super inflation, hyperinflation in education that’s just totally unreasonable. It’s because it’s like, ah you
don’t have to pay, you know, $2,000 to go for a semester. Maybe we’ll give you a loan and we’ll charge
you 10. And so that sort of thing, someone just has to say like, that’s it. You’re not doing that anymore
and bring it all down to reality. You know? And the thing about the pills is Pfizer will charge at 200 bucks
for a pill in the United States, and they’ll charge 10 cents for the same pill in India. So you know, yeah.
They can’t afford it.

MARTIN: Yeah. The carrying cost. Can we afford to pay? Yes.

SCOTT: Yeah. And who’s negotiating it? Who’s the person that’s negotiating it for the US government is almost
on, or was on Pfizer’s payroll. And we’re picking on Pfizer, but it applies to all of them. Right?

MARTIN: That is the point. That is the very point. But this is very similar to the dictators in Africa where a world
monetary fund comes in and says, listen what we need is we need you to borrow several billion dollars.
We’ll pay you a fat fee against the resources of your country. And if you happen to default on the
payments, we’ll just take the resources. Don’t worry about it. Right? Right. Yeah. And so the
dictator…

SCOTT: They get a nice palace to live in for 10 years until the people revolt because their starving.

MARTIN: They move to Switzerland or whatever. And then the country has been impoverished and the resources
have been taken away by the bankers. Yep. All good.

SCOTT: Or China, China’s building infrastructure like crazy. Yep.

MARTIN: And again, on the same principle, if you can’t pay, we own it.

SCOTT: Yep. And they’ve taken over, I think the Port of Mombasa recently because of it.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yep. Well.

SCOTT: It’s actually really weird cause I was there, and I had saw they built a railway from Mombasa to Nairobi.
Yeah. That is incompatible with all the railways that are there. So in other words, whatever
the gauge is, it was a different gauge. And could they have made it the same gauge? I don’t know.
Probably.

MARTIN: Of course they could.

SCOTT: But you know, it goes from the port into the city, into the warehouse and that sort of stuff. And I was at
the terminal, it’s a beautiful big terminal. What blew my mind was all the employees were Chinese.

MARTIN: Oh. So, they made no one wealthy?

SCOTT: Except their own people. Right? Yes. So if you’re gonna build this port, then hire local
people so we can put the money into the local economy. But that even wasn’t happening, they didn’t. I
mean, you don’t see many Chinese people in Mombasa and there they all were working at the, not at
the port, I wasn’t at the port, but at the main railway station. Yeah. That everything goes
through that they built. It’s amazing. And of course it was almost impossible to get to, because they
didn’t care. Right? I mean, the purpose was to get stuff off the boat onto the railway tracks and into
Nairobi and around Africa. So the fact that if you wanted to be on the train, no problem. But you had to
be on this, it was a two-lane road that was basically not moving because there was just too much traffic
for the size of the road and didn’t matter if it was five in the morning or five in the afternoon, it was just
packed. And I’m like, what’s going on? Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. So these examples, right? So I would like to sort of circle back to the closing of this, which is, I’m
promising the audience that we are now going to see a short crescendo all the way up to end of March,
of this Saturn energy that’s going to help us reform. And if we pull it off, then great. If we don’t pull it off,
then sleepy time.

SCOTT: We’re going to be stuck with this till the next time. That’s 200 years from now.
MARTIN: Well the revolution of thinking is coming, right? The general consciousness of as I outlined it, is changing
our attitude toward technology especially is coming. We are going to be reevaluating. I mean, I have,
well you’ve known it about me. I’m not a technology, what’s the word? Defender. Especially when it
comes to health. I believe nature and natural is better than technological. Like we should be growing
healthy food instead of subsidizing or supplementing. And we should be taking a natural thing that grows
in nature instead of a chemical thing. And we shouldn’t be injecting something to defend us because
we’re imperfect. The design is perfect, the design itself is divine. We do not need an engineer to make it
right.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: Anyway, so I’m hoping that humanity as the whole will come to understand that. To realize that and to
act on that.

SCOTT: Here, here. I’m hoping that’s the case too. And I think it is. I think that a lot of people are moving that
way.

MARTIN: Yes. Well, we’re watching the riots in China. I wonder how it goes. I mean as we’re recording this, people
have been just completely had enough. Acting out. Right? Had enough. Yeah. You can put the pressure
on this thing only so much until it just blows back. Right? It reacts.

SCOTT: That’s right. That’s right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, let’s hope it’s blowing up for better.

SCOTT: We’re in for an exciting new year.

MARTIN: Yeah. Alright, Scott. I hope that when we’re talking in 12 months from now, we would have different
perspectives.

SCOTT: Oh, hopefully it’ll be a joyous conversation about how far the world has come in such a short period of
time.

MARTIN: I surely hope so. Anyway, I thank you so much for being here.

SCOTT: My pleasure, Martin.

MARTIN: Sharing your wisdom and your understanding. And I’d have 20 other things that I’d like to talk about, but
I don’t know if we can squeeze it all in.

SCOTT: Well bring up one of them and let’s talk about it.

MARTIN: Well, I see you’re doing good works. In helping independent entrepreneurs in the developing world to
earn a better living.

SCOTT: Oh, thank you. Yeah. . Well yeah, we’ve made a start. I was hoping to teach them to start their
own businesses, but it’s worked out that it’s more about connecting them with clients that like, and love
and respect them and have good work for them to do. And the reason we’ve been successful is the
quality of the people that we’ve been able to match together on both sides and some of which now are
working with you, which I’m really pleased about.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. We’re doing okay. It’s yeah, these people are being paid better than they would be
otherwise, and to us it’s at an advantage. So I’m quite pleased with that. Yeah.

SCOTT: Yeah. Yeah. They’re helping their families and a lot of them are putting in the money towards food in
their community for those that are less fortunate and they’re able to have a good roof over their head
and yeah. So it’s really helping not just them, but also there’s always that spin off, right? Helps the
community as well.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: So we’re making a difference, and hopefully it’ll continue to happen going forward.

MARTIN: Yeah. What would you have hoped that I should have asked you?

SCOTT: I had no expectation. I just came here to be with you.

MARTIN: Yeah. What did you want to talk about, if anything? What’s on your mind? What’s brewing?

SCOTT: The only, the biggest question I have is if someone has taken the vaccine and they have problems, what
should they do? Well actually, I always think about our fibromyalgia Facebook group, over 80,000
people, and it’s really sad that so many of them are just identifying with their illness and they’re not
really willing to take a look at anything that would improve them. And then some of them are just so
poor that they can’t afford something like this and they can’t afford even something else like vitamin C
probably. I mean, there’s some people that are really, really desperate that way, but a lot of them aren’t.
They just seem to have this closed mind. And I often wonder if the things, I mean, there’s so many
different stories and there’s so many different aches and pains that it just tells me everybody is different.
Everybody gets these autoimmune diseases appear differently, and we have a lot of talk going around
about different myocarditis and different problems that people have from this experimental gene
therapy that they’ve been taking for the last couple years. But I often wonder if the complaints that
people have afterwards aren’t really, like the same as the complaints that a lot, not all, but enough of
them are the same as the complaints that the people in the fibromyalgia group get.

MARTIN: Well, you’re right about this, because of course, it’s a chronic inflammatory degenerative disease. And
loading up your immune system with toxic things is going to do just that. Well, that’s what we’re seeing.
And of course the word was envenomation introducing venoms into the body, and they are causing this
damage to how the thing is functioning. So there are ways to, to fix it, to reverse it. And they are very
few and it’s actually really amazing. So whether it’s injected or inhaled, whether it comes to you from in
the wild or from an injection, it actually is the same thing.

SCOTT: Okay.

MARTIN: And the number one, if you can believe it is nicotine because the receptor is nicotinic acetylcholine
receptor in the brain that is affected by this thing.
SCOTT: And so the big problem is nicotine.

MARTIN: Well, nicotine is your defense.

SCOTT: Okay.

MARTIN: So smokers get less trouble.

SCOTT: Oh, I see.

MARTIN: But you can chew it. You can buy a nicorette gum or a nicotine patch, or you can just get some nicotine.
Or you can get nicotinic acid, which is vitamin b3, niacin. And then of course, there are some natural
things like quercetin helps, pycnogenol helps, Resveratol helps, EGCG helps. All of these things are found
in the Exsula superfoods. They’re also found in this new line that we recently brought on called Folium.
And then of course, you can go after the genetic problem to the receptor site itself. That’s with the Nano
Soma over here over my shoulder. Right. That will repair the receptor sites, which will fix things. But
people who are not taking precautions are going to indeed suffer in their brain, their heart, their gonads.
That would be menstrual problems, pregnancy problems, reproductive problems for men falling sperm
rates, and yeah.

SCOTT: General aches and pains.

MARTIN: Yeah. Inflammatory, a rise of 0f general toxins.

SCOTT: Tired.

MARTIN: So the antidotes are the vitamins like the vitamin C, B, the works, all of that. Our famous C60, right?
That’s the carrier of all the electrons that we need to deliver the grounding that you mentioned.
Right, right. More electrons, raw food, hugging trees.

SCOTT: Hugging people.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, the trouble with this stuff is that it really is transmitted, right? That the theory, whether it’s
the exosome or the virus is kind of overlaid.

SCOTT: Doesn’t matter. Yeah. Doesn’t matter.

MARTIN: Don’t care what you call it. You are exchanging the report of your inner terrain with your environment
back and forth.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So you will be exposed. That zero covid policy in China, one of the stupidest things you could have ever
invented.

SCOTT: Right. I’m sure they did it because they just wanted to see what would happen and how far they could
push the people.

MARTIN: Maybe. But masking another stupidity that just doesn’t accomplish anything. To wear a mask, to
not catch a virus is about as good as trying to hunt mosquitoes with chicken wire.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Just so you know, the holes are this big, doesn’t work.

SCOTT: Doesn’t work. And so many people just swear by it. It’s just amazing.

MARTIN: Well, yeah. But it’s an act of faith, right? It’s an external display of, I’m doing something. But it reminds
me of when I was growing up, women were expected to be wearing a scarf on their head. A widow was
expected to be wearing black clothes for one year at least all black, at least a year. It was unacceptable
otherwise. But of course, you have the Jewish guys growing their sideburns or the Sikh guys not cutting
their hair, wearing a turban and blah, blah, blah, all of that. You know, these are the external signs of
doing something as a sign of..

SCOTT: I’m doing something about it. Something’s happening.

SCOTT: I often say Martin, that you can feel safe or you can be safe.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: A lot of times people do stuff they want, they feel safe. But they’re not, that’s not safe. You feel safe, but
you’re not.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: You know, you’re not doing the things that would make you actually safe.

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: Good. Well, I’m glad that there’s something that can be done, because my biggest concern with the
mRNA gene therapy what I call it, experimental gene therapy, was that there was permanent DNA
change and you were hooped.

MARTIN: Well, there could be.

SCOTT: And then I realized that our creator made us so amazing. We can heal from a lot of things.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: It’s just kind of like, you come to the cliff, you really want to jump off the cliff? You know sure, you’ll
survive it, you’ll land in the water, but you might break a few things depending on how you hit and how
fast you hit and how deep the water is, but you really need to do that. Like just no, you get the sun, get
good air, get good water, get good food, make sure you’ve got all the vitamins. Rest, live a good life.

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: Avoid the pain.

MARTIN: Well, it goes right back again. Hug someone you love and and spend your money wisely. Spend it with
those who deserve it. Think about what you’re doing.

SCOTT: Martin had no idea I was going to talk about Lazarus today.

MARTIN: All right. Scott.

SCOTT: Thank you Martin.

MARTIN: Thank you. Life-enthusiast.com. 1(866)543-3388. This is Scott Paton. You can look him up online. He’s
quite a guy.

SCOTT: And we’re restoring vitality to you and the planet.

MARTIN: Thank you.

MARTIN: Thanks Martin.

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Podcast 449: Albedextrin

On today’s episode, one of our favorite researchers Spencer Feldman returns to tell us all about his new product Albedextrin. Cyclodextrins may support the body in dealing with rancid fats, toxic waxes and prions. Primary toxins such as heavy metals and organophosphates create secondary toxins. These secondary toxins accumulate in the body as rancid fat, toxic waxes, and prions. Which in turn may create much of what we consider aging as well as cardiovascular and neurological issues.

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MARTIN: Here. Hello everyone. This is Martin Pytela, Life Enthusiast podcast, and with me Spencer Feldman. I must tell you, Spencer is probably the most favorite researcher that I’ve done interviews with, and I thought that we had it all figured out. We talked about toxicity, and we talked about protection from all kinds of infectious things, and I thought we had it all down. And Spencer shows up with secondary toxins, and it’s really important to understand that I have talked for ages about the industrial toxins that come from outside, the heavy metals, the lead, arsenic, the cadmium and mercury and the likes, and they cause horrendous amount of damage. But there is this thing called secondary toxins. And I would like Spencer to jump in and start explaining where this research has led him, And let me tell you, this is a bunch of rabbit holes that we did not know that were there. Spencer.

SPENCER: Hey Martin, nice to see you again. So there’s a whole new world of stuff that we have to learn how to deal with, Okay? Not a big deal. So in previous podcasts, we talked about how if a toxin is water-soluble, it gets urinated out and it’s the fat soluble toxins that cause the real problems. They get into the lipid membranes and the body has a very hard time getting rid of them. So one way to think about detoxification is it’s finding the right kind of soaps, as it were, that can make these fat soluble toxins water-soluble, so you can urinate them out.

MARTIN: Yeah. Binders, emulsifiers, detergent.

SPENCER: Right. So yeah the soaps, the detergents, they make them water-soluble. And then the binders would be something that grabs onto them now that they’ve been mobilized and then helps them go out. Because even a water soluble toxin, like a water soluble mercury is still poisonous. It’s still trouble. So yeah, that’s the whole binder’s angle. We talked about heavy metals and toxic chemicals, and I call these, for lack of a better term, first generation toxins. And in this podcast, I want to talk about another class of toxins that are called second generation or secondary, or second generation toxins. And these are toxins that are created inside the body as a result of the first generation toxins. I want to talk about what they are and what problems they cause and how we can get rid of them.

SPENCER: And if you want an analogy, first generation toxins would be like a hole in the ship. And the second generation of toxins would be the three feet of water at the bottom of the boat. Now, of course, you have to fix the hole in the ship because until you fix the hole, it’s going to keep leaking water. But even if you get rid of the hole or are able to patch it up to a degree, it’s not enough. You’ve also got three feet of water in the bottom of your ship causing trouble. That’s the second generation toxins. So.

MARTIN: You have to bail it out, you have to mop it up, you have to paint over it because it’s already rusted your hull.

SPENCER: So we’re going to talk about how we can bail our bodies out of these second generational toxins. So what are first generation toxins? I would say that these are things like toxic metals like mercury and lead and oxidized iron, as well as chemicals like the pesticide glyphosate. So what makes these toxins so damaging is their degree of reactivity with fats and proteins. Now, if they were less reactive, Martin, they wouldn’t cause that much damage. And if they were more reactive, they would bind irreversibly with our tissue and then stop reacting, right? Because now they’re completely bound up. Instead, these first generational toxins, they’re right in the middle. They’re just reactive enough to cause a lot of trouble, but not so much is to get permanently bound to the fats and proteins they’re reacting with. They’re catalytic. In other words, they don’t get used up while they’re doing their damage. They’re going to continue to do their damage for as long as they’re in their body. And that can be a really long time because our body has a very limited capacity to remove them.

MARTIN: In fact, my personal experience, mercury, right? And I’ve had plenty of that, and it just keeps on generating the tendency toward fungal growth, because I think the body intentionally grows some kind of a mold in its attempt to try and just rot that thing out.
SPENCER: So the human body has, I don’t want to say it has design flaws, but there are certain blind spots biologically where it just doesn’t know how to deal with certain things. Specifically things that we’ve invented in the 20th and 21st century. It’s just has not had the time to figure out what to do. Okay, and so then we end up with second generation toxins. These are the oxidized and rancid fats and the damaged proteins that the first generation toxins create. And, we have some capacity of dealing with some of them. They can be recycled by our lysosomes.

MARTIN: We need to explain lysosome. That’s L-Y-S-O. As in lysis as in cleave and rip apart. and zome as in stuff that does something, machinery

SPENCER: Or body.

MARTIN: These are the little bits in our body that are in fact capable of ripping up these things. It’s sort of like little dogs tearing at stuff until it’s no longer harmful. But anyway, lysosome in a cell capable of taking apart things that are harmful.

SPENCER: Right? And we’ve got them in all the cells, well not red blood cells, they don’t have anything in them. But every other cell in the body has lysosomes and they’re the recycling centers. When something gets worn out and needs to be recycled or something is toxic, or if a cell has to commit suicide because it’s becoming damaged or virally infected, it’s the lysosomes that do it. Very important part, the lysosomes. If you’re into detox, lysosomes are the detox organ of the cell to a large degree.

MARTIN: Now, I guess the amateur way of getting there would be fasting.

SPENCER: Yeah. And we’re going to talk about that. Fasting will shrink, swollen enlarged lysosomes, but to a point. And there are some things it can’t get rid of. And that’s coming from someone who’s done lots of very long water fasts and has a tremendous respect for the power of fasting. There’s some things that fasting can’t get to, cause there’s some things the body just can’t deal with. So some of these damaged fats and proteins, the body just has no mechanism of handling them. Sometimes it’s because of what they are, and sometimes it’s when they crystallize to a certain size, when they get to a certain size, the body just can’t do anything with them, they’re just too big and the lysosomes can’t recycle them. So these are the second generation toxins. And like the first generation toxins that created them, they are also catalytic.

MARTIN: That means, again, they will keep causing problems as long as they’re there. They don’t get used up. And you know, what are the problems? Well, these are the things that we tend to get if we live long enough. Heart disease, neurological issues, senility, cancer, these are all associated with these class of toxins. So in these second generation toxins, there’s three classes we could say. There’s toxic fats, there’s toxic waxes and toxic proteins. So let’s start with the toxic fats first. We make a product to support the body to detoxify fat soluble toxins. That’s our Xeneplex product. But what do you do when the toxin is the fat itself? It’s not that the toxin is in the fat, the fat itself is the toxin. So let’s talk about that.

SPENCER: And the role of fats. Now, the body, you could consider a collection of trillions of cells, a superorganism of trillions of cells, and every cell has a membrane around it. And with the exception of red blood cells, every cell also has hundreds to thousands of smaller cells inside called organelles. And each of these organelles also have some membrane. One of the organelles as we just discussed, are lysosomes, but membranes are more than just the skin of the cells, and the organelles. Membranes decide what compounds go in and out of the cell. And the organelles, this controls how the cell behaves. It controls what the DNA does, what kind of proteins and fats are made. Membranes are the brains of the cell, and damaging membranes is a kind of cellular lobotomy.

MARTIN: Yeah, if you could visualize it, these are like doors and each of the doors has a lock, and you need to have the proper key. And if you’re arriving from the outside, you have to have the key knock, knock, let me in. And the inside has to unlock, open the door and let this thing in. It’s actually amazingly complex.

SPENCER: Have you studied the work at Bruce Lipton at all?

MARTIN: Oh, yeah.

MARTIN: Okay. So he’s all about how membranes are really running the show.

MARTIN: That’s right. Yeah, I remember when he did his research, he said that the membrane is the brain, and the nucleus is the gonads of the cell. And the mainstream medical people have been acting as if the gonads were running the cellular mechanism, but they’re not. It’s the membrane that’s running the show.

SPENCER: The membranes are made up about 50/50 fats and proteins, and let’s start with the fats. Over time, these fats oxidize, they become rancid, and they need to get replaced. That’s just part of life. And it’s the job of the lysosomes, the organelles inside the cells to recycle oxidized fat. Unfortunately over time, lysosomes can get damaged by toxic metals, right? So one of the things that the lysosomes do is they’re destroying toxins, and they’ll see a metal and they say, oh that’s a toxin, and they bring it in to destroy it. But you can’t destroy a metal, unless you are in the furnace of a sun, because the metals are elements. And they’re already as destroyed as they’re going. They’re as simple as they’re going to get. So in that case..

MARTIN: It reminds me of ping pong balls trying to destroy a brick wall, right?

SPENCER: Yeah. I mean, basically what happens is the lysosomes grab onto these metals and with the hopes of destroying them, and they can’t, and they just sit inside the lysosome damaging the lysosome and stuffing it up until it fails. So over time, the lysosomes get damaged by both the toxic metals and then the sheer volume of oxidized fats that they have to deal with, then these fats start to accumulate. And in the case of cholesterol, they form crystals. And again, once these crystals reach a certain size, then the lysosomes can’t do anything about them at all. Right? They’re insoluble and they’re just way too big now.

MARTIN: Too big to swallow.

SPENCER: It was too big to swallow, right? Yeah. It’s like trying to eat an elephant with one bite, right? So what happens is the cell then sends out an emergency signal to macrophages, and they come in to help. And that’s the white blood cells that move along, and they are mobile lysosomes. And what that means is they’re a combination between police officers and garbagemen. And in this case, they’re being called from their garbagemen perspective. The cells say, please help deal with these cholesterol crystals and oxidized fats. I’ve got more than I can handle. So the microphages come on up, but they’re no match for the cholesterol crystals either, and they die also trying to digest them. So then the dying macrophages send out a signal to attract other macrophages to come and help . And then the process continues, and you get more and more of these macrophages dying, trying to go clear this cholesterol. And this is how our arterial plaque forms, the dead blood cells, white blood cells are called foam cells. And this is why they almost always continue to grow. Plaque is literally made from the accumulation of oxidized toxic fats and cholesterol crystals and the bodies of the dead macrophages that tried to eat them.

MARTIN: That’s a terrible picture. Essentially, we’re piling these corpses on the moat trying to get across and we’re not getting there. The moat’s too big and the wall’s too high.

SPENCER: It’s a little gruesome yes. And you know, it’s like I said, this is a blind spot in human biology because…

MARTIN: Well you know why? We’re not constructed for industrial lifestyle.

SPENCER: . No we’re not. Okay, so that’s sort of an introduction to toxic fats. Let’s talk about something called toxic waxes. Now, another toxin that fats can turn into are toxic waxes. Waxes are like fats, think of like a candle wax, right? But the chemistry is slightly different. And when we’re born, we’re covered head to toe in a healthy wax called the Vernix caseosa. If I’m pronouncing that right, caseosa. And it’s made up of a waxy substance called ceramides, which actually, people take as a supplement to try to get looking young again. Now, what happens is saturated fats, can combine with metals to form these toxic waxes called metal soaps. That’s things like mercury, lead, barium, nickel, iron, cadmium, even calcium can form toxic soaps, toxic waxes and metal soaps. And this is one of the ways that toxic metals can lodge in fatty tissue indefinitely, is in this waxy material. And what happens is as we get older, the healthy ceramide waxes that we should have to keep us young and flexible and make our skin look youthful, keep everything healthy, that gets replaced by the toxic metal soap waxes. One example that you can often see as you get older are age spots. So if you look on the back of your hand and you see those brown spots, which is called an age spot or lipofuscin, that’s actually the metal soap, the toxic wax accumulating.

MARTIN: Yeah. And we get a lot of calls about, can you find a way to make my skin even tone again? Because I look now like somebody splatted a whole bunch of brown paint on my face or my hands.

SPENCER: Yeah. So there’s the cosmetic angle, but there’s also the biologic angle because that’s really a sign that toxic waxes are throughout the whole body, not just where you can see them. And then the third class would be toxic proteins. Now, proteins are long chains of amino acid that the DNA instructs the ribosomes, another cellular organelle, to make. And these long chains of proteins are then folded into their shape in the endoplasmic reticulum and they form the shape of the proteins that we use. And it’s the shape of the protein that gives its ability to do its job, like you said, the key and lock. That’s because different things have different shapes, and if you alter the shape of the protein, it’s not going to do its job.

MARTIN: Right. And they’re activating and inactivating when you attach, for example, a methylation CH3 at the end of something, it’ll turn it from this to that, from usable to non-usable or active or inactive, all of that, right? Mm-hmm.

SPENCER: Yeah. I mean, whether it’s insulin or antibodies or growth hormone, if it doesn’t have the right shape, it’s not going to work. Now you could think of proteins as those long balloons. And the endoplasmic reticulum is the friendly uncle that twists and folds the balloons into things like a hat or a dog for a small child. Right? Now unfortunately, first generation toxins, especially the toxic metals cause these proteins to misfold. Now, there is a quality control system in the endoplasmic reticulum that will either try to repair these misfolded proteins, or send them to be recycled in the lysosome. But over time, again, the lysosome gets overwhelmed, and these misfolded proteins, they enter the cell cytoplasm and they accumulate. And not only do these proteins not function the way they should, they also jam up the works. They could also be further converged into something called prions, which I know you’ve heard of.

MARTIN: Oh man, that word should send a cold chill into everyone’s heart. Prion, the first thing that comes to me was mad cow, Kreutzfeldt–Jakob.

SPENCER: Yeah.

MARTIN: That thing. And we thought that this was caused by feeding offal to animals. As in when chicken and cow or whatever die, we process them into this protein mix. And then we throw that into the feed, into the livestock thinking that we’re going to make the feed richer because protein makes them grow bigger, stronger. Anyway, that was the pathway by which we thought that this prion would arrive. And if it gets in your brain, especially because it’s the fat and so on, well you pick it up from here.

SPENCER: Yeah. So prions are a challenge. And yes, prions are transmissible by food. So if you feed an animal that has prions to another animal that doesn’t, the second animal that ate it will get prions. But that’s not the main way in which prions are affecting humans. So indeed it does cause mad cow disease, but that’s just one kind of prion. There’s actually many types of prions. And we now know there’s over 50 diseases that we now know are caused by prions. That’s Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, MS, ALS, cystic fibrosis, cataracts type two diabetes. And as far as I’m concerned, most forms of senility. Now, like toxic fats and waxes, prions are extremely stable and virtually impossible for the body to get rid of on its own. Prions even though they’re protein, they resist digestion by protease, by proteolytic enzymes and the lysosome. And now what’s worse is once you get a single prion, if it bumps into another similar kind of protein, you know, it BOOM. And now you’ve got two prions and they bump into two more, and then you have four, then eight and 16.

MARTIN: Chain Reaction.

SPENCER: Yeah. And you can see that this is exponential growth. So, you really want to catch..

MARTIN: Is this kind of related to the beta amyloid plaque that the doctors talk about?

SPENCER: Absolutely. Absolutely. So you can see that this exponential growth is a problem. While we might never be exposed to prions in our food supply, we can make them internally. Certain chemical toxins like organo phosphate, pesticides, like glyphosates can take a misfolded protein and turn it into a prion. This is one way that first and second generation toxins can interact. Metals get into the cells, proteins get misfolded, then these misfolded proteins bump into a pesticide and boom, you’ve got a prion. And then from there, the replication of the prions becomes exponential. Now, also prions are transmissible. This explains why the spouses of people with Alzheimer’s are 600% more likely to get Alzheimer’s themselves. So for this reason, if one person has any protein folding disorder, it would be wise for their spouse to also consider the protocol I’m going to share at the end of this podcast.

MARTIN: Are you suggesting that body fluids are a pathway for transmission?

SPENCER: Of prions? Absolutely.

MARTIN: Yeah. Because we are talking about eating it. Well, yep. That’s body fluids alright.

SPENCER: Now this may also explain the shedding phenomena of proteins that vaxxed people. Do we want to talk about this?

MARTIN: Yes. Let’s talk about it. So when you insert artificial proteins or just the amino acid coating, that should be in the nucleus of that protein, when you insert it back and forth through a needle. You end up with a reaction. Your body, your immune system will start reacting with whatever you insert in there. And now the response is creating this process.

SPENCER: So there’s a signature in the spike protein that is very similar to that of prions. And so there are some scientists that are saying that the vaccines may be a prion delivery mechanism. So I’ll leave it at that.

MARTIN: Yeah. Intentional or not, we don’t know.

MARTIN: So, as a side note, I believe that it is the accumulation of toxic fats, waxes and proteins and the damage they do. That’s actually the main cause of aging. Now we can heal a cut in our skin, but we can’t heal aging. Right? Why not? Because until now we didn’t know how to get rid of these second generational toxins. So what is the answer? Sugar donuts. Yes. And by sugar donuts, I mean of course cyclodextrins.

MARTIN: Right? So let’s unpack the name. So cyclo means that it’s something that’s formed in a round thing. Something that is round. And cyclo in organic chemistry is the benzene ring with six carbons in a circle. Mm-hmm. And dextrin, if I remember right. Dextrose is the other name for glucose, right? Sugar.

SPENCER: Dextrins or sugars. So exactly a cyclodextrin is a ring of sugar, or a sugar donut. So cyclodextrins are microscopic sugar donuts. That is tiny rings of sugar, 10,000 times smaller than a red blood cell. And while there are many cyclodextrins out there, the two of them in particular that I am most fascinated with for our health are alpha and beta hydroxypropyl cyclodextrin. Alpha-cyclodextrin is a six sugar ring, and beta-cyclodextrin is a seven sugar ring. And what this means is that the hole in the middle of the alpha-cyclodextrin ring is just a little bit smaller than the hole in the middle of the beta-cyclodextrin ring. Now the outside of the cyclodextrins are water-soluble and the insides are fat soluble. And so what this means is, fat soluble things can get trapped inside the holes of the cyclodextrin and become water soluble. And then you can pee them out. And it’s the slight difference in the size between the alpha and the beta-cyclodextrins that allow you to trap different size rancid fats and toxic proteins. And once you make them water-soluble, now you can urinate them out. So this allows us to rid the body of things that otherwise the body has no way of getting rid of on its own.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is the ultimate pac-man. Really.

SPENCER: Yeah. There you go. So for instance, the holes in alpha-cyclodextrins rings are just the right size to trap saturated fats and toxic proteins. While the holes in the beta cyclodextrin rings are the perfect size to trap cholesterol. So let’s unpack, let’s talk about these two in some more detail. Alpha-cyclodextrins can trap and remove trans fatty acids and saturated fats and toxic waxes. And that allows the metals to eventually be removed. Now, one of the interesting things is when it breaks the toxic waxes down, it also converts those same toxic waxes to turn back into the ceramides, the waxy substances found in youthful skin and membranes. So it’s not just that you’re removing the bad stuff, you’re actually turning it back into what it should have been when you were young. Which is even more impressive. And then also alpha-cyclodextrins also trap prions and also make them water-soluble. So alpha-cyclodextrins are amazing just on their own.

MARTIN: So how do we acquire it and how fast can we make it work?

SPENCER: Work? Well, let me tell you about the beta-cyclodextrins, but wait, there’s more. Okay. So beta-cyclodextrins.

MARTIN: Help me, I want this now!

SPENCER: Beta cyclodextrins are slightly larger and they grab onto different things, and they’re best at removing the lipoproteins and the polyunsaturated fats that have gone rancid. And then also the kind of toxins like the aromatic and heterocyclic compounds that are created by cooking meat at high temperature and making it taste really good. So beta-cyclodextrins, like I said are better at cholesterol, and it can deal with those large cholesterol crystals that the body can’t. And the way they do this is they increase the solubility of cholesterol 150,000 times. So remember how we’re talking about, we need some kind of soap to dissolve these things so we can break them down. Beta cyclodextrin is the soap for cholesterol crystals. In fact, it’s 50 times more efficient at removing seven keto cholesterol, which is the main toxic form of cholesterol than Apolipoprotein A1, which is the good lipoprotein that our body uses to do it.

SPENCER: Not only that. In a lot of people, their apolipoprotein A1 isn’t even working anymore. So one of the things, and this is probably why beta-cyclodextrins is associated with decreasing plaque size. It can regenerate the apolipoprotein A1 and allow it to do its work, but it also does it better than it does it itself. It’s rare that you can improve on nature, but this may be one of those cases. Beta-cyclodextrin also works in the liver, and has been shown to decrease cholesterol crystal in the Cooper cells, which is an issue for people that have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease. Now, beta-cyclodextrin also reduces lipofuscin. So again, if you’re old enough to start seeing brown spots on your skin, that’s those waxes accumulating.

SPENCER: Let’s see. What else did cyclodextrins do? Right. So I’ve been focusing mostly on the heart and the brain, but cyclodextrins do a lot more. Cyclodextrins have been known to encapsulate and render non-toxic over 20 different mercury compounds. They can break down immune complexes and neutrophil extracellular traps. So reactions, allergic reactions don’t become chronic. And what that means is, you have an allergic reaction to something like, let’s say poison ivy or a mosquito bite, you start getting itchy. You want that reaction to stop, right? You don’t want to be scratching at that for the next 20, 30 years. But that’s what can happen. These immune complexes can get in cells and they can just get stuck there, leaving the body at this low level of chronic allergic reaction. So cyclodextrins can break those things down.

SPENCER: They can remove allergens, carcinogens, aflatoxins. That along with some of the things that we have talked about in our other podcasts, or one of the few things you can do with alfatoxins. They also lower tumor necrosis alpha and Interleukin 6 and other inflammatory markers, improved liver function, increased bile output. Oh, here’s a fun one, they reactivate paralyzed white blood cells. So 30 years ago, that’s a long time. When I used to do live cell analysis, I used to look at people’s blood and my own, and one of the things I would look for would be how active the white blood cells are, the macrophages, the neutrophils. There was a continuum between those that were really mobile and aggressive and moving around the slide and looking for trouble to go after or toxins to eat.

SPENCER: And then the average neutrophil it would move a little, but kind of sluggish. And then the ones that were just stuffed to the gills and weren’t going anywhere. And I always wondered like, why does this person have neutrophils that are moving and this one have neutrophils that just are completely stuffed to the gills and paralyzed? Well, now I understand the partial of what’s going on is that, the neutrophils have, and the macro phages have gobbled up toxins, and can’t do anything with them. And they get so big that they just, eventually, they actually burst, you’ll find exploded white blood cells on the screen. So they’re not moving because there’s so stuffed with toxins and toxic waxes and fats and proteins that they can’t digest, that they just can’t move anymore. And then eventually they blow up.

MARTIN: Max capacity. Nowhere to go.

SPENCER: Right. So reactivating paralyzed white blood cells, what that’s telling you is it’s helping them deal with the crystals and the folded proteins that they’re stuffed with that they couldn’t deal with on their own. And as you asked before about lysosomes, yes, cyclodextrins will shrink large lysosomes. Now usually a person has to do a water fast to do this. And even then it can only go so far because a lot of those toxic fats, waxes of proteins, even a fasting person can’t get rid of them. They’re just indigestible from the lysosomes.

SPENCER: So, by interacting with these toxic fats and waxes, and proteins, cyclodextrins can shrink in large lysosomes in ways that nothing else seems to be able to accomplish, and that’s quite amazing. Shrinking in large lysosomes is a fundamental requirement for those, not just those who want to be healthy, but those who want to push the envelope out on just how long they can live in a youthful and vital state. And until now, there’s really been no way to do that. Cyclodextrins are a really amazing class of ingredients. They are generally recognized as safe. They’re already in the food supply. You get them just by, they’re in beer. Anyway, I think in corn. So it’s not a harmful ingredient and you just need to take enough of it. And when you get enough of it into the system, all sorts of amazing things start to happen.

MARTIN: Yes, the concentration. The classic tale of the house fire and I say, well when you show up with a garden hose, you’re doing the right thing. You just don’t have the volume. Right? So drinking five beers, you’re going to be too drunk before you get enough cyclodextrins to make a difference.

SPENCER: So you asked what could be done. When I started researching cyclodextrins and I saw how powerful they were at dealing with these seemingly unsolvable problems of aging, I started experimenting with how to take them. Now they’re usually done by IV. But after a few months of research, I found a way to make them orally absorbable. So what I did is I came up with a product and let’s see if I can, there it is, Albedextrin. (Holds up bottle to camera) And if you want to experiment, the word is short for alpha-beta-cyclodextrin. So if you want to experiment with what cyclodextrins can do for you, go to life-enthusiast.com and I’m sure you’ll have them available there. There is a caveat, you should not use them if you have low cholesterol or if you’re on cholesterol lowering drugs, it is possible to have your cholesterol go too low, and that’s not good for the body or the membranes.

SPENCER: Also, you want to take a phosphatidyl choline supplement three hours afterwards. Alpha-cyclodextrin can remove rancid phospholipids from cell membranes. Now, most of us are already deficient with phospholipids. We go from 90% phospholipids in our membranes to 10% by the time we’re old. So yes, we want to remove rancid phospholipids, but we don’t want to leave the person with none. And since we can’t make them as rapidly as we make cholesterol, that’s something that you want to supplement with. So three hours after you take Albedextrin and you’re flushing, you’re supporting the body and dealing with these toxic second generation toxin. Take a tablespoon of phosphatidyl choline afterwards to support the membranes in rebuilding themselves in a healthy manner.

MARTIN: So do you need pure PC, phosphatidyl choline or can you take it as Lecithin and be okay?

SPENCER: You know, I get the 90%, but if you want to get the 40%, just take twice as much. The other things, the ethanolamine and the serine, they’re also useful. So you could argue, that the less pure phosphatidyl choline are actually better for you. Right. There’s an argument for that.

MARTIN: I’m just thinking that the Lecithin is so much more affordable than pure PC.

SPENCER: So, do you have any questions about the product so far?

MARTIN: Okay, well let’s just try and talk about how fast can a person progress, right? Because once you get on it, you’ll probably, or once you get the message that this can indeed reverse your internal rancidity, you would not want to wait, You would want to get on with it, right?

SPENCER: There’s the more aggressive protocol, which is what I was on, which is two tablespoons a day for 30 days. And then a washout phase where you want to rebuild. And then there is a less aggressive protocol, which might be a tablespoon a day for 30 days for people that aren’t quite as advanced in the buildup of toxins.

SPENCER: And then there’s sort of like the long term, hey, I’ve got it all cleaned out, but I don’t really want to age the way I see my contemporaries aging. Like I’m 53 and you start to see your parents get senile. And you think, wow is that what seventies and eighties are going to be like? Am I not going to be able to focus and not remember things and just not have the mental energy? I don’t want that. I want to keep going in full function until the day I die. So now that I’ve gone through that initial phase of getting all the junk that has built up out of me, I’ll probably stay with something like a teaspoon to a tablespoon every day or every other day just as maintenance. Because until I can get a body that is completely free of first generational toxins, which I may never be able to accomplish, there’s always going to be the second generational toxins being created.

SPENCER: And I’m always going to want to stay on top of that and keep them flushing out of the body, so I can have the body as strong and as vital as possible. In terms of issues about taking too much, they gave them to animals and they found that at 5% of the diet for two years they were non-toxic. And we’re at orders of magnitude less than that. So again, it’s a generally recognized as safe ingredient. It’s just we’ve only been getting them in small amounts because they’re using them as stabilizers for flavors, and we’re using them for an entirely different reason. They’re made by mixing starch with certain enzymes. What about the stuff you don’t absorb? Okay, so when you take it orally, there’ll be a percentage that doesn’t get absorbed in the gut, and it’s not a big deal.

SPENCER: Actually, it’s kind of good for you because the cyclodextrins that aren’t absorbed that go through the gut, actually are prebiotics and they raise the bacteriodes and the bifidus and the lactobacillus, and they can also absorb lipopolysaccharides, the LPS the really inflammatory markers that can get created by bad bacteria inside the gut. And in terms of the half life, it has a 1.7 hour half life, which means in 12 hours it’s 99% gone. It gets metabolized, basically down to water and carbon dioxide, so there’s nothing left. And as long as you’re not overdoing it and very low on cholesterol to start with, these things are very safe. Given the vast number of things that they can do for us, I think that it’d be wise to consider it in part of your health protocols.

MARTIN: Alright. So this eight ounce bottle that you showed me, that’s 16 tablespoons. So if I take two tablespoons, that’s a bottle a week.

SPENCER: If you do, well, hang on a second. Is that 16 tablespoons?

MARTIN: Yeah.

SPENCER: Right. So if you are going to be on an aggressive protocol, yeah. You would go through a couple of bottles. Once you get to the point where you are doing one teaspoon, I think what that’s uh..

MARTIN: That’s 48.

SPENCER: 48. So you’re going to get about a month and a half, if you take it every day, one teaspoon or about three months if you take it every other day. So yeah, there is an initial loading phase where you may go through quite a bit of it, and then you get to the point where it’s mostly flushed, and then you can kind of go at a cruising altitude and just take a teaspoon every day or every other day.

MARTIN: All right. So first start three bottles, go big.

SPENCER: It would depend, right? I mean, I knew that I had a familial issue with lipid accumulation.

MARTIN: So many of us.

SPENCER: Right. So I would say, the two classes of people that could do this, right? They’re the people who say, I have no problems, but I don’t ever want to have problems. Maybe someone in my family tree got some issues, it hasn’t shown up in me and I don’t want it to. Okay. Do a teaspoon every day or every other day, or maybe do a loading phase for a week and then just go to cruising altitude. Then you’ve got the people who are like, oh no I know I’ve got some issues, right? Like, I was one of those people, I could see that there was some plaque on my arteries. I could see that there was some fatty deposits in the liver. I knew that no matter how much I did from everything else I tried, I couldn’t budge them because the body has no way of getting to them. Right? And so for me, it made sense to do a one month at two tablespoons a day. But now that I’ve gotten most of the way there and I can see, and I’m looking at the carotid artery and I’m seeing the change and the texture of the plaque, and the thickness of it and the reflectivity of it. And I’m seeing what the liver looks like. I’m ready to start going and backing off and getting to more of a maintenance dose.

MARTIN: Right. So you’re an ultrasound specialist, right?

SPENCER: Oh, I wouldn’t say specialist. I have an ultrasound machine and I know how to use it, but…

MARTIN: Okay. Well the point is that you’re actually demonstrating to yourself using your own ultrasound that you can actually have a visual of what you’re talking about.

SPENCER: Yeah. Yeah. So it’s nice to be able to look at these things in live time and watch their effect and see what’s going on. Absolutely.

MARTIN: Right. So it’s not that you’re just smoking some bad weed and imagining things. This is actually ultrasound and you’ve got a picture of it.

SPENCER: I’ve got pre and post ultrasound photographs of the exact same angle, the exact same location, the carotid artery and the computer measurements showing the size of the plaque shrinking down. And I’ll keep taking pictures every month, and my hope is that it’ll keep getting smaller and smaller until it reaches the size where all that’s left is just the scar tissue. And all the inflammation and all the calcification and all the toxic fats and waxes and the macrophages have been removed. Yeah.

MARTIN: Awesome. Well, can’t wait to start.

SPENCER: All right.

MARTIN: I don’t think I have much more to say other than kudos to you, Spencer for just finding a hole that the mainstream is not talking about. Probably because they don’t actually know that they could do something about it. Right?

SPENCER: Who would’ve thought that we could save the world with sugar donuts, Martin?

MARTIN: Well, we’re not saving the world, we’re just giving ourselves two extra years at full speed, right?

SPENCER: There you go. Sure.

MARTIN: Or maybe two extra decades. I would like to hope that.

SPENCER: I have a friend who I’m helping with this who just had a stent put in. And of course I’m grateful for the opportunity to help anybody who wants to improve their heart condition. But there’s also a really special place in my heart for helping people who are dealing with potentials of senility. It’s one thing to have a heart attack and then boom, you’re dead, right? But senility is this slow tragic loss of one’s self, or of your partner or of your parents. And if we can help people bypass that and age neurologically in a graceful way, I’d be really grateful to be part of that.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is wonderful. All right. Spencer Feldman at remedylink.com. You can get his products at Life Enthusiast. This is Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com. Call me at (866) 543-3388. Albedextrin. See you there!

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Podcast 448: Folium Detox Products

The scientifically proven formulas of Folium pX nutraceuticals contain powerful plant ingredients that work synergistically to cleanse the body of free radicals, reduce stress, boost the immune system, detox heavy metals, and other environmental toxins that can cause inflammation and disease. These toxins are ingested daily through the air we breathe, the food we eat and the water we drink, as well as in the radiation emitted from military weapon testing, nuclear power plants, MRI scans, and even our personal electronics, particularly from the emerging 5G technology.

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MARTIN: Hello everyone, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast, and with me today, Babry Oren with Folium. And their products that we are offering to all Life Enthusiast clients. Babry, welcome to the show.

BABRY: Thank you. Thanks for having me.

MARTIN: Oh always, an honor. And of course, we come to this through some interesting history. You were telling me some time ago how you started in Georgia about the same time as I started out in the Czech Republic. And here we are, two expatriates from the communist paradise that we left behind.

BABRY: Well, you know what, I will give up that paradise anytime. I give up, I don’t need that. . No use for it.

MARTIN: Although lately I have been thinking that maybe it’s just trying to come back.

BABRY: Well, it’s up to us. If you think it’s good, bring it back. If you think it’s not good, stay away. Simple as that.

MARTIN: All right. So let’s talk about Folium. Why would people want to know, or why are these products important?

BABRY: Well, first of all. I mentioned it to you before on the phone. I am the only one who speaks with an accent in this country. Nobody else. So bear with me.

MARTIN: All right.

BABRY: All right. So every time we take a breath, we ingest into our system all kinds of junk, which is with the air. We have nuclear waste in the air. We have gasoline waste. Okay? We have all the industrial stuff, and we don’t even feel it because the single breath is such a minor amount, we don’t feel it. But within time, within years, they accumulate and they cause all these troubles you’re talking about. Cancer, lung disease, liver disease, you name it. Right? Because of it. Also when we eat, we eat too much toxic heavy metals, which comes with the water, like lead and mercury mostly, also aluminum. And with foods, that’s already known. And they cause a lot of problems, a lot troubles. We have too much free radicals, you have to get rid of it. They’re killers. And that’s why you have to please your body, otherwise they will kill you.

MARTIN: Yeah, true enough. I mean, I certainly recognize it that there are all these chemicals that come into us from the dry cleaners and from the automobile exhaust, from the industrial exhaust. From every manufacturing production you can imagine. The carpet in your room, the fire retardants on your pajamas, and you name it. Right? Brake pads and the tires and everything else in the city traffic, you’re saying it well. And now , even from farther away, right? Like the threat now of perhaps even nuclear atomic explosions, that the world is setting itself up.

BABRY: Well, there was a study done in Australia in the late 1960s. Every metric tone of gasoline is disposed by vehicles, it lifts in the air, 50 milligrams of lead, and around you. Now it takes about 20 metric ton, which is about 6,000 gallons to have one gram of uranium. What’s the traffic today? You know it. And how many grams do we have, and only comes with you. It lands on the asphalt. In the meantime, we breathe. And I’ll give you one homework, Martin. When you drive, if you look at the sides, what you have. You have trees, plants, grass, bushes, Right? And it’s a green color, correct? Not so fast. You look deeper inside, and you see other fruits and other plants, you look at those green stuff, you come look at it again. You say, oops it’s yellow! Because all these disposals of the gasoline, they kill it, they affect it. But in the meantime, we don’t feel it until sometimes it’s too late, and not to be too late. We have a chance to reduce it, and we have the product for that.

MARTIN: Right. Yeah. I’m thinking that there is this balance of body’s ability to detoxify versus the speed with which the toxins are coming in. And our original design, which would be for the prairies or for the savannas. There is no mechanism for the human body to get rid of metals and toxic chemicals. They stay inside.

BABRY: Yeah, they do. And they stay there forever and it doesn’t get any better. It stays there forever, unless you get rid of it. Now you have the right to be healthy, and you also have the right to not to be healthy. The choice is yours.

MARTIN: Yes. The choice is yours.

BABRY: Just to you give you an idea, before we take any indigestible, whether it is water or food or anything else, the choice is yours. You’re in control. Once you take it, you cannot undo it. And those elements that you ingest are in control of your body, your life and death. So you have to make sure that first of all, you go green, you go organic, you go with healthy stuff. In the meantime, whatever you cannot control, we have the tools to cleanse it, and that’s where we come.

MARTIN: Right on.

BABRY: Where we come in.

MARTIN: So the products, could you talk about the history? Like how did they come about? How were they developed?

BABRY: Well in 1986, April 26, there was a explosion of the nuclear power station, in Chernobyl Ukraine. At the time, it was in Soviet Union. And thousands and thousands of people got injured and died. And funny enough, the Soviet government, which was headed by Mr. Gorbachev. He would not even announce it, would not even evacuate people for a month, maybe more than a month. And then when West is already making this noise and demanding for the answers, they came up with this like, do something. As you know Martin, when they said, do something! Banging on a desk, you better do something, right? So they came up with this product, they saved thousands of lives. But in the meantime, the Soviet government got collapsed. Soviet Union got collapsed. It’s all parted, right? Piece by piece. In 1993, there was no more Soviet Union.

MARTIN: Exactly. So do you have a license to this, or how is it that you are the distributor of this product?

BABRY: No, we have the license, we have the exclusivity. We own the patent, and we own the trademark. We have three products, and a fourth one is coming soon.

MARTIN: Patent? Babry, your camera keeps cutting out. Why is that?

BABRY: Well, we have the license, we have the exclusivity for it, and we own the patent and we own the trademark.

MARTIN: Right on.

BABRY: All three products. And fourth one is coming out very soon.

MARTIN: Okay. So, well, would you please take the time to describe what’s in them and why it works?

BABRY: Okay. First one Folium pX, the main ingredients are pine parts such as pine bark, pine needles and pine cone. And also grape seed extract.

MARTIN: Right.

BABRY: And it’s not what you have, but it’s how we do it. Let me give you one example. If I give you so many elements of H and so many elements of O, make me a water, unless you do two H’s and one O, you will never have a water, will you?

MARTIN: No, not easily. No. .

BABRY: Well, yeah. You have to know, how much of what. And that’s in the formula, and that’s what we have.

BABRY: Yeah. Well, it’s interesting. I mean, we have selling pycnogenol, which comes from the pine, and we have been selling resveratrol, which comes from the grape seed. Those are known out there in the general supplement world, right?

BABRY: Yes, they are. But you know what? In 1999, this product was tested for immune system. Now, when you, you are dealing with so many supplements, and when you go to supplement store, any, any of them, you will have hundreds of different items. And every supplement’s claims are just about all of them. They claim that it helps immune system. And the reason is by federal rules. If you have one ingredient known as it helps immune system, you may make that claim. But if you ask them, prove it to me here, you know, it’s known, it’s that it helps, we have it in, but that is not the issue. What we have, our product was proven on the oncological patients, people who were going through chemotherapy and radiotherapy, and we have about two or three different types of cancer patients. Now, during those procedures, the leukocytes – white cells – which are responsible for immune system, they drop a lot.

BABRY: And when they drop to a certain point, you have to stop treatment. Otherwise, the person will die. There is no immune system. Now, you stop it, you die, you don’t stop it, you die. Which one is better? And sometimes they don’t stop, and people die, and nobody is accountable. Nobody’s getting accountable for it. So until such time when the body regenerates the white cells naturally again, and most often is too late. And those that make it back, also too late because the damage is done. So what this product does, it keeps the immune system leukocytes at all times at normal level. It was proven and documented in a double blind control test in the oncological hospital, which is certified. We have all that, okay? Now, once we have that, then we picked it up. That’s when we picked up, and then we tested also on toxic heavy metals.

BABRY: Let me just tell you something, Martin. I’m so proud of what we saw here, not one single failure of taking all the excessive toxic heavy metals out of the body. Such as lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium, uranium and on and on. And not only that, when you have something like deficiency in some essentials, it brings it back up. It brings it up, okay? It brings them up. And that’s one of the biggest qualities of Folium pX. Not only that, it takes all the radiation out. By the way, we tested radiation, and when we saw the results, some physicists, they determined that this product can be very good for 5G damages. We cannot stop 5G, but once the damage is done, we can, we can fix it. One way or another.

MARTIN: So the speaking of radiation, so there are these two kinds, right? Like the active radiation, in case of nuclear explosion, that would be the gamma rays. But that’s, that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re talking about here of the effects of radiation. When you were talking at first about the effects of the Chernobyl accident and all of that. But that’s mainly caused by the toxic elements like the caesium, plutonium or uranium or whatever gets into the atmosphere, right?

BABRY: Here’s what happens. All this radiation, we have it everywhere. Now, let me give you one example. Here where I am about 34 degrees north in Los Angeles, you’re talking about 20 to 30 becquerels of radiation is normal. Now, if you go to the beach, you might have 50 or 60 becquerels. Up in Alaska, you might have 10 to 15 becquerels, because they naturally follow the sun beams. Right? But on the equator you have maybe, 80, 90, 100? Which is also normal. That’s how it affects the pigmentation of the skin.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm.

BABRY: Now, when you have radiation in my place, something like 80, 90, 100, that’s scary, that’s alarming. But in Chernobyl the radiation went up all the way to 4,500 becquerels. Can you compare that? And in Fukushima, over 10,000 becquerels.

MARTIN: This is the Fukushima that the..

BABRY: Fukushima, Yes.

MARTIN: 10,000.

BABRY: Over 10,000. And within the first three weeks on the west coast, 14,000 people died with the radiation of the Fukushima accident, and 80% of them were babies. That’s an old fact. Statistics. Okay so it fights all of them. Not only that, we also have free radicals. When the free radicals grow in quantities, that’s the worst killer. They have all this radiation, all these heavy metals, they create free radicals and that’s where the damage comes from.

MARTIN: Yeah. Of course. The acquisition of the heavy metal, that’s a classic. First, you get something from your mother, then you get it from some kind of injections that the doctors give you. Then you get it from the fish that you might eat. And ingested, inhaled. Cigarette smoke contains cadmium, gasoline puts out lead…

BABRY: Tuna fish is known for having too much, what do you call it? Radiation. And too much free radicals. Yeah. Tuna fish. You don’t want to eat big fish. You want these smaller fishes. Okay? Now, after Fukushima, on the West coast all the way from Alaska all the way down to Baja, California in Mexico, in Oregon, in California, in the state of Washington, on Mexican shores, washed up all these debris of the nuclear power station. And one of them was as big as four metric tons, which landed in Oregon. Now, can you imagine what it did to the sea life in the ocean, in the Pacific Ocean? And we eat the fish. What does it to us? Only God knows. Just to give you statistics, 1906, the life expectancy was 63 years average. In 2010, just before Fukushima, it was 78 and a half. Just before the pandemic, it was about 14 months less. And how much is it now? Only God knows.

MARTIN: Yeah. This latest two year, we know that life expectancy has gone down.

BABRY: Yeah. Okay. Well, after we saw success with the pX, in the meantime, we were working on this Folium Immuno and this Folium RelaX, and also Follium P53. Immuno and Relax are all patented and on the market. Now, what does Immuno do, is it takes care of all the residuals of free radicals. All the residuals of infections and inflammation, as well as it does what Folium pX does also. However, at a slower rate.

MARTIN: Right. So I guess because the capsule is the same size, you have a smaller amount of the pine and grape, and you have the other ingredients that take up some of the volume, right?

BABRY: Yeah, that’s right. Well, what we have in pX is 450 milligrams. And in all the others, we have much less than 450. The total is 450 milligrams. And pX is just a part of it. Okay?

MARTIN: Right. Yeah. I’m reading the ingredients that you have in the Immuno, and again, they are known things, right? You have the ginger and turmeric and green tea and mustard and pomegranate. All of these are very effective, antioxidant type of ingredients, right?

BABRY: Yes. Not only that, but you see, the thing is in synergy of all of them together, combined, which takes all these years of studies. They not only fight and beat this inflammation and infection, but also residuals of what causes that. We have, for instance a virus and we have vaccination. It takes away both of them. Now, if you take this statement to the FDA, you’ll be closed down next day. I guarantee you that. Because Big Pharma does not like it. There is no money in healthy people, you know that. So as Pharma is concerned.

MARTIN: So I guess we better not say that then.

BABRY: Yeah, yeah. We are not saying it. I’m telling you what other people said. But the thing is, helps to combat all those residuals.

MARTIN: Indeed. And so the effects of aging or the toxicity that, I mean, maybe aging is caused by the exposure to the toxins, right? Maybe we’re aging because we are becoming more toxic.

BABRY: Well, first cause for early aging is free radicals.

BABRY: Now, just to give you an example, you have somebody 50 years old and looks like 50 years old. Next to him there’s somebody who is 60 years old, also looks like 50 years old, because he was well kept. He maintained his health. And then the other side, you have a 40 years old, which also looks like 50 years old because he took care of himself terribly. So in an essence, 60 years on the 40 years old, well a whole generation gap, they look the same because of the free radicals and this product takes care of that.

BABRY: Okay. We’re talking about all three of them. Now, we did this very heavy comprehensive test for the oxidative stress. And the results were published in the magazine of National Academy of Science of Georgia.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. You still have connections back in Georgia?

BABRY: Yes, I do. I do.

MARTIN: Good.

BABRY: And then, they are one of the best sciences in the world, you know that. Georgian’s are scientists of all this.

MARTIN: Well, this, this is probably worth talking about a bit. The tradition of the old Soviet system was to fund scientists. Like The National Academy of Sciences of the old Soviet Union was in fact a venerable organization where true sciences, as long as you took away the politics, the true sciences were really well evolved and developed.

BABRY: Well, you know what? Here’s a trick. In the United States, not everybody wants to be scientists because there is no money in it. The Soviet Union, whether you’re scientist, doctor or janitor, you have the same salary.

MARTIN: Right.

BABRY: Socialism, right? So you might as well be a doctor, at least you have some respect and you are developing your passion. But in the United States, you might have a passion for science, but if there is no money, you go for something else. You sell ice cream, there is more money. Right?

MARTIN: Right on. In the old system of the socialist method, you also had some other perks. You had some sort of social standing, social status.

BABRY: Right? Exactly. That’s the only thing. You are better than the others.

MARTIN: But okay, so to be said, what I was trying to say and highlight is that the scientific studies that were produced back there were in fact, they’re rigorous and accurate and well made, or well developed.

BABRY: It is. It is. And in fact, I take pride in a sense that I was born and raised in countries, which is a country of slipping intellect, if you will. The intelligence is there, but they never gave the chance because they were suppressed by all this political crap, what we all experienced. You did, I did, back in our young age, but the Americans did not.

MARTIN: Yeah. Okay. So going back to the paper published by this science journal in Georgia. So what’s in that?

BABRY: Okay, well, they say that all the results, what came in, I think I sent you a copy, did I not?

MARTIN: Yeah, I’ve seen it and I’ve read it. And it’s actually written in English, go figure!

BABRY: Yeah. Well, it can be written in three languages. One or the others, either Georgian or Russian or English. And ours was written in English, and it shows that Folium Immuno, better than Folium pX for the oxidative stress. Okay, and that’s a big thing. And then another one, I just sent you in fact today, I think right? Or last night, it shows that Folium Relax, is the best of both of them for oxidative stress.

MARTIN: I was looking at the relax, and it’s a different set, right? Like you have, I mean there’s the pomegranates, but you have rhodiola and valerian root, that certainly talks about dealing with the stress side of things, right?

BABRY: Yes and white peony.

MARTIN: Yeah. And peony, yeah.

BABRY: The thing is, centuries ago, these plants and herbs were used to calm the people in the army who got emotional stress after wars, in the wars, right? And they were using this to treat them.

MARTIN: To restore emotional health.

BABRY: Yes. And we took that and did the formulations, which takes just that. You have post traumatic stress, you have emotional stress with this. Can you imagine what happened with this pandemic, with the emotional side of people?

MARTIN: I know.

BABRY: Millions of people.

MARTIN: It’s in my face.

BABRY: But you know what? Nobody escaped that. Everybody got affected, either somebody in the family, in the neighborhood, whoever. Everybody got affected emotionally. Yes. The world was locked down. The whole world. I mean, there was no escape, but we survived. In the meantime, all this emotional stress, what people have experienced is that it stills stays in their heads, in their system. And this product helps to take care of that problem. You have anxiety, you have emotional stress, you have insomnia, you have this, you have that. And this product helps tremendously. So I’m giving you what our customers, the end users have experienced and have wrote to us and have called and all that.

MARTIN: Right? So what’s interesting is about the instructions about taking the products, which was that you put in that the pX, a person should take three a day for a month and then skip a month, whereas with the other two, the Immuno or the RelaX, you don’t have that, right?

BABRY: That is correct. And I’ll tell you why. Folium pX, let me go back a little bit, by statistics, according to the Nobel prize nominee, Doctor Joel Wallach. Which is also by the way on our board, he also won the Krauses honorable medal. He was the guy who found the selenium, okay? And he got Nobel Prize for it. So according to him, every American professional athlete lives only 63 years. And the reason is when they run, when they sweat, what do they do? They drink water, right? But in the meantime, sweat takes so much of essential minerals and metals, they don’t replace with anything. For that reason, we just don’t know what pX might take, even though we are sure that there is not such a thing. But nevertheless, we better be safe than sorry. We say, you know what? Let the body regenerate. If there is any loss naturally for a couple weeks, three, four weeks, and then start taking it again, that’s pX. Now, the other products, they have other ingredients which might neutralize that. So you don’t have to wait for a month. And for that reason, we recommend alternating others with the Folium pX with this too, either or both of them.

BABRY: Did I answer your question?

MARTIN: I think so. Well, I’m asking on behalf of a friend, right?
Okay, So I suppose we should try and give a few examples. Like I was talking to you about your recent trip to Israel, and you sent me back just a quick report showing how a couple of people took the pX for just two weeks. And consistently you can see the declining levels of the toxic things, but also the improving levels of the non-toxic things in the body.

BABRY: Exactly. But you know what, the funny thing is, we have not had one single chart where hundreds of people that have tested that didn’t have a similar thing, not one. Because when you have excessive toxic heavy metals, it’s almost automatic you a have deficiency of essentials because toxins take place instead of essentials.

MARTIN: Yeah. It’s called the substitution, right?

BABRY: Yeah. Right. So when you take out all these toxins, the essentials are coming back up to normal. And in this case, what I sent you there is a chromium, which is in deficiency very badly and brought it back up. And not only that, we received about half a dozen from Nashville, Tennessee. They’re testing on the autistic kids for the heavy metals. But in this case, it’s not what was before and after, but it’s how much is coming out. And it was like three or four five days, right? Yes. One of them was 20 a day. Each and every one of them is coming out much higher than before. Before they do the product.

MARTIN: I’m thinking that it’s kind of difficult to draw direct examples because each person will have a different reaction, right? Like people break down in their own specific way. When you detoxify them, they start repairing in their own specific way. So there’s going to be, each one’s going to be somewhat different, right?

BABRY: Yes, it is. Because you never know what’s in anybody’s body, because all bodies, each one is different chemistry, different body. You have different levels of all the chemicals in the body and different levels of heavy metals and radiation and free radicals and all the other stuff. Each body reacts differently. One cannot react very fast. One may take some time, but all of them, it helps with all of them. Look, we haven’t seen any exception yet.

MARTIN: So I guess we should draw the general statements, right? You mentioned that we support the immune system, which of course will mean that all the things that the immune system controls will be better. I mean, the worst situation, cancer is an immune system breakdown. So we will probably see less of that, but of course we cannot draw a direct link between the two.

BABRY: Well, I can only give you the facts. And what you draw out of it is, let everybody make his own assumption, his own analysis. Let me, I’ll give you one example. Lady by name of Sandy, she went through surgery on her right breast to remove the tumor. And after this injury, while she’s sleeping, closed eyes, doctors telling to her caregiver, which happened to be her brother, you know what? She has only eight days to live and take her home to say goodbye with dignity, right? And she overheard that. She says, no, no, no, I’m not dying. No, no, no. And takes all the Folium and Boom, boom. She’s still here since March, right?

MARTIN: So how many years ago is this?

BABRY: That was in March.

MARTIN: Oh, just this six months now, yeah?

BABRY: Yeah. And not only that, she was working in the airline industry. She was a stewardess for like over three decades. And she has terrible levels of insomnia, she could not have a normal sleep. After taking RelaX, she’s sleeping like a baby now. Same thing as a guy in San Diego area. His name is Angel. And he like last 40 years, he did not have a normal sleep, takes our products and now sleeping like baby, like an infant. That’s what he says. That makes me feel good to see that.

MARTIN: That’s great. And so the typical dosage would be three capsules a day. Just keep going?

BABRY: Well, depends. We recommend one capsule three times a day. That’s very minimal. However, if the body weight and size allows, take even two at a time or even three at a time, depends on the severity of your heavy metal test. Let me tell you something else, Martin. You might want to know this. I think I sent you some flyers. We guarantee if you take a heavy metal test before you take the product, Folium pX. If you take it before you take it, right? If you take a good health test that covers the entire spectrum of all the heavy metals. And then you follow the protocol for one year, and you retake the test again, if you’re not fully satisfied, I’ll give you every penny back.

MARTIN: So you’ll refund the six bottles to whoever.

BABRY: Everything. But you have to do a test before and after 12 months, you have to take the whole 12 months.

MARTIN: Yes.

BABRY: Follow the protocol. Because some people, well listen, it didn’t help me, did not do anything for me. What are you looking for? What, what are you fighting for? Right? Yeah. They have no answer.

MARTIN: Sometimes this is subjective, right? We talked about that. That everybody’s got different level of toxicity and different response. We cannot predict that.

BABRY: Yeah. But when you have 80, 90% of removal of all the toxic heavy metals, all the excessive toxic heavy metals. How can you go wrong?

MARTIN: Well, it’s certainly going to make things better rather than worse.

BABRY: Yes. And if you’re not satisfied, I’ll give you your money back. You know some people will get tempted to get the money back ever further, but usually it’s not the case. So be it.

MARTIN: All right. Okay. Well that’s pretty much explaining it. Do you want to tell some more stories that you can recall?

BABRY: Well, what I will tell everybody, like I said before, your health is in your hands. And you have the right to be healthy, you also have the right to be sick, and the choice is absolutely yours. Now, should you choose to be healthy, which I’m assuming that you would, there are many products out there, some are good, some are bad. I don’t know what they are, but ours is based on the science of many many decades of work. And we know what we have in it, it works. Now, don’t make me compare with other products because I will not. Because I don’t know what’s in the other products. I have not seen the science, but I know what we have.

MARTIN: Yeah, well it’s understandable. I mean, certainly I have had people tell me, but it’s priced quite high, right? When you tell me that you might need to take two bottles a month, it’s pricey for a person. Right?

BABRY: Okay, well, let me ask you the other way. How cheap is it to be sick?

MARTIN: Well, that’s a whole different story, right? What’s the cost of misery?

BABRY: Exactly. But let me put it this way. I just told you that we did comprehensive oxidative stress research.

MARTIN: Yeah.

BABRY: On all of our products. If I had to spend only that money on our products, only that money what we spend on this. The bottle should be worth at least 200 bucks a bottle. Just that, not talking about anything else.

MARTIN: Yes.

BABRY: Within so many years, heavy metal test, radiation test, it’s costly. Now let me tell you what I’m talking about. If I’m offering you two coins, identical coins, and I said okay they’re identical, which one do you want? You would say what? It doesn’t matter, right?

MARTIN: It doesn’t matter.

BABRY: Okay. But if I told you they’re identical, but this one has a certificate, this one does not, which one would you take? The answer is obvious, right?

MARTIN: Yeah. It’s obvious. Yeah.

BABRY: Yeah. And this certificate is very costly. Takes many years of studies, many years of research, because we had a couple of products, which we had to drop it because they did not prove as we thought, but these ones they did.

MARTIN: Yeah. That’s worth a lot. Knowing that you are taking a product that has in fact been studied, researched, documented, and certified to do what you’re claiming it to be doing.

BABRY: Well, you know what? Let me do this. Let me double the pricing and give you half price.

MARTIN: Sure. Well, I mean, I have the same problem with other brands where people ask me, what is your competition? Thinking that I’m going to mention another natural product company, but I don’t. My competition really is the pharmaceutical and agricultural chemical industry, because that’s who’s taking people’s health away.

BABRY: Well, here’s the major difference between pharmaceuticals and our products. Pharmaceuticals, they deal with the symptoms, and they want you to come back forever until you die. Our product goes after cause, and once you’re out on the cause, you don’t have to come to me back again. So what is it worth to you? Yourself Martin, as a consumer, what is it worth to you? Okay, here’s the thing. Once you are sick to get rid of it you have to pay the price one way or another, and you have two choices. Either you pay the price now a few bucks and some discipline, or you pay the price at the back end where money and discipline will not help you anymore.

MARTIN: Yeah.

BABRY: Price is ultimate.

MARTIN: Yeah. When you’re in a health crisis, you no longer care what it costs. You will spend all your fortune just to buy yourself a few more days.

BABRY: Exactly. So that’s what it comes down to. Oh, but the best way to treat yourself, the best medicine is don’t get sick. But how likely is that? What’s the likelihood you don’t get sick? With this air. You can have a zillion different types of food, right? Worldwide. Vegetables, fruits, all this exotic stuff, cooked or non cooked. But you also can get away without food, maybe a week or two or three, or a month depends on the person, right? Water you can have maybe dozens of different sources. You can also go without water and survive maybe two or three days. But air, we have only one, we don’t have a choice. We have just one, we all have the same air. And how long can you live without it?

MARTIN: 10. Not even. Five, probably.

BABRY: No. One guy told me that it’s two minutes. I told him, listen I’ll give you five minutes then what? . Right?

BABRY: Without air, and that air is poisoned. We all breathe the same air without any choice, any privilege to have different air. And that’s poisoned when you have all this industrial stuff. And don’t you think that if in your city there’s not any industrial stuff, which is poisoning the air, that you are different than anybody else. Think again! Because air circulates around the globe, okay? From west to east, it’s circulates, and you’re breathing it no matter where you are, that will come to you. You don’t have to go there. This will come to you anywhere and everywhere, any given day. And another point I’d like to make. In the United States, based on official statistics, there are 26 suicides every day of US military personnel. That’s official numbers, but in reality many people believe that number is over 100. But if we just stay with 26 per day, that is over nine thousand per year. United States has not lost that many people in any war. Nine thousand! And why does this happen? First of all it is from post traumatic stress – number one, and also when they deal with so much of water, by radiation many heavy metals go inside the body, into the blood stream, and it affects the way their brain functions. The only way they begin to see as a way out is through suicide. Also, and you have the video there, about a vaccine called Gardasil. Del Bigtree made a movie that became an overnight sensation, the movie called We are Vaxxed, that was based on information from a whistle-blower. In the mean time they have documented that many teen-age kids were injured, and some of them died, and some of them by suicide. And then they took this interview with a young lady called [uninteligible]. When she was 12 years old she got injured by this vaccine, which was mandatory for her to get into a ballet school. I am just telling you the short version. She got so sick that her status was declared as “walking coma”. She could not remember anything, zero. What is your name? Whaaa? That is in her own words, in that interview. After taking this product she started coming back, and in her own words: “Without this product I would not be sitting here today.”

And then in 2019 came another movie called Vaxxed 2. They show documentary information about kids committing suicides. As a parent, can you process in your head, for one second only, that your kid is feeling so badly that the only way out they can find is to commit suicide? Can you picture that? It is there, it is happening every day. And this product helps. Somehow, somewhere, it helps. So consider to look into it. That is all I can tell you.

MARTIN: Yeah. And with that wonderful, optimistic prognosis for our existence on this planet, well at least we have some tools to combat the crazy toxic worlds that we have built.

BABRY: And by the way, some people might choose to go different and get this Folium pX, which is not ours. Somebody’s using our name fraudulently. They even sent it in to Walmart. We will take them out very soon.

MARTIN: Wow. Somebody’s actually knocked off your product?

BABRY: No, no, no. They have different ingredients, but they’re using our name. Which is protected, but they don’t care. But this is the Folium pX to look for.

MARTIN: Wow. Incredible.

BABRY: Okay. Folium pX. This is Folium Immuno here. This is patented. Not only is it kosher, it’s halal, for those who are religious. And this is same thing with Folium Relax. Right? See this one here?

MARTIN: Right on.

BABRY: Yeah. That’s what we have. So make sure that you get the right product because a lot of funny things are going out there, and be careful.

MARTIN: That’s actually interesting. I guess imitation is the greatest form of flattery, huh?

BABRY: Well, it says yes, it is. But in the meantime, I don’t know what’s in the other product. I don’t want to know, because it takes many years of studies to know what’s in it. So..

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, that’s not important. Let’s just make sure that we get people the real thing.

BABRY: Okay. If you buy for one year, 18 of them. We will give you one bottle for free. If they buy from you, whatever price you would charge, that’s your business, right?

MARTIN: All right. I will make sure that we can send you anyone’s name and address for those people who indeed buy the full commitment and will let you know to send them an extra bottle.

BABRY: Absolutely. I will do that because that will help them, either for themselves or they might give it to somebody else. And you know what I found within these last few years, many people are subscribing for their parents, like for Mother’s Day, Father’s Day or for Christmas. And that’s the best gift you can give. Even though it’s not customary they rather have something packed and all this glamor and all that. But people who are more pragmatic, they give something they can help with their health. Because if you don’t have health, you’ve got nothing. None. Zero.

MARTIN: All right. Thank you. Thank you Barbry, CEO of Folium pX, and this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast. You can reach me at life-enthusiast.com and on the phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you for being here.

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SCOTT: You are listening to the Life Enthusiast Podcast, starring Life Enthusiast number one health coach, Martin Pytela, and his once-a-year co-host Scott Paton. Welcome to the show, everybody! Hey, Martin, how are you doing today?

MARTIN: Scott, life is more complicated than it has ever been, but I am personally doing okay.

SCOTT: Me too. We have been doing these shows for… is it 15 years?

MARTIN: Yep, it has been 15 years, my friend.

SCOTT: 15 years! And of course, as in life, people come together, go apart, come together again, so we have only been able to do one show a year together, so if you don’t wanna miss one, this is the one to hang in and watch!

MARTIN: I have felt quite strongly that keeping this going is a good thing, it allows us to keep with the times and just understand how life evolves, and oftentimes we are able to veer off the main course. At Life Enthusiast we always focus on products, or specifics, or whatever, and this annual review show allows me to just simply go right into the weeds, and talk about what is on my mind, and I think you have been a wonderful facilitator of that sort of thing in my life, just offering a perspective that I couldn’t have or wouldn’t have thought of, so I cherish this time, and I thought: “Why don’t we share it with the world?”

SCOTT: Yeah, me too! We have had some amazing conversations in the past, and so I want to start off with product placement. (Laughing) This is Nano Soma. I happen to be in Cuenca, Ecuador, which is close to the Peruvian border, and it has been almost impossible to get it here! But thanks to persistence by Martin and his team, I have got it, and I have to say – it is magical. Like, it really is amazing! There are two things I cannot be without, and this has become one of them. The other one is the Exsula line of products, and I have been doing this for 15 years. I haven’t shaved for a while, as you can see, I need to get a haircut, and one of my friends today said: “You look like you are getting younger, what is your secret?” And I thought, well, for the last two months, it has been this Nano Soma. I take a couple of sprays in the morning and a couple sprays in the late afternoon, and it is just amazing.

And I can recall, before I met you, actually, maybe two years after I met you, I was using some of the Exsula products, Iridesca, in particular, thinking that all of my life up to that point, if I took a product and then I didn’t take it for a while, I didn’t notice. But with Iridesca, I noticed when I hadn’t had it for a few days, and I had been only taking it for like two weeks. And I think one of the reasons that I am sitting before you at the age of 65, not on any drugs, not having any chronic pain… I mean, if I sit for a while and I get up, I have some aches and pain (laughing), till my body kind of loosens up, but you know, no drugs, no high blood pressure, no problems, no cataracts… everything works!

And I think it is the Life Enthusiast line of products, not just the Exsula, also the other ones that I have taken over time, that has made that difference. I mean, there is walking, there is exercising, you know, meditating, stress… There are lots of things that go into the pie of health, but I think the biggest one has been, in my opinion, putting good nutrition into the body. Like these superfoods, right? It is “green stuff,” and sometimes it tastes awful, sometimes it tastes great. One of the things I have been saying lately is “short-term gain for long-term pain or short-term pain for long-term gain.” A lot of us will have the ice cream cone or the Big Mac, and over the long-term, we have heart attacks, stroke, diabetes, obesity, and all those things. Whereas if we had the short-term pain of, you know, “this doesn’t taste the greatest…” I mean, you have made huge strides in that area, I love the taste now, but 15 years ago it was a bit hard to get down. But after you get used to it, it’s fine.

Because we are used to such sweet tastes, you know, I have a sweet tooth, I was used to such a sweet taste, it was a bit of a jar to the taste buds. But I think that we live in a McDonald’s society, we want instant gratification, so “gimme the pills, so I don’t have the pain,” instead of actually dealing with the problems, and getting good nutrition. And I just wanted to give a shout out to you. You have been talking about this product for, I don’t know, six months or longer, and I wouldn’t pay attention to it. You know, while traveling around, it is not like I get orders from you whenever I want, I really have to plan it out, and you got Nano Soma in my hands, and I just wanted to say this – in the interview with the person that designed it, he said that everybody has to have this, and I absolutely 100% agree.

MARTIN: Yes. Thanks! Over my shoulder right up there, there are bottles of Nano Soma. We have it everywhere in the house, and yes, I acknowledge it. It is a catalyst, it is the tiny little thing like a switch, you know, like when you flip a switch, it can change the direction of where the train is going. In this particular product, it is this sort of a thing that helps every individual cell, all ten billion of them. Every one of them gets nudged in the right direction. That is what this does. It repairs the mitochondria, it repairs the receptor sites, it repairs the DNA, which is spectacular, that is essentially the full expression of life as it should be. The only other thing that you need besides that is decent nutrition, exercise, clean air, clean water, and clean ‘spirit,’ clean mind, whatever you want to call it, you need to practice mental hygiene just as much as physical.

SCOTT: Yes. It is interesting you say that, because one of the things I do most days, I pray every day, but aside from that is… I don’t know, I suspect that we have chakras, I can’t say that I know or that I have studied it, but I do this ‘mind thing,’ where I look at my crown chakra and I make sure it is nice and clean, and I go through all the major ones and sort of ‘clean them all out,’ and then I also go and just give a little bit of love to all of my organs. I have a friend that I was telling something like that to once, and he said, and I felt this was very condescending, “How is that working out for you?” And I said: “It is working out fine!” (laughing) He just expected me to say something else probably. But when I sit down and think about it, you know, if you tell your heart to be strong, it can’t hurt. Right?

MARTIN: Yeah, this quip “How is that working out for you?” should be reserved for when you are lying on the bed, writhing with a heart attack.

SCOTT: Right! Yeah!

MARTIN: You reminded me of a situation, this was back in 1992, I am sitting in a corporate office in a suit and a tie, and a visitor is there and we are talking business. I was in the computer field at that time. And I am telling him that myself, my wife, and my children are all using homeopathy as our primary modality for dealing with minor health issues. Like, my children, when they fall down, they’re offered arnica to deal with the wound, and they’re offered aconite to deal with the flu symptoms and such, right? And his quip was: “I sure don’t know if I could believe that this homeopathy works.” So I looked at him like that and I said: “Fortunately, for us, for it to work doesn’t require your approval.”

SCOTT: (Laughing) Beautiful one! You know, we are delving into the world of belief, right? It is hard! I think if people don’t study history, they don’t realize the way things used to be. And 200 years ago, homeopathy was a major form of medicine, if I can put it that way, right?

MARTIN: It was, yeah, until the 1920s when Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Flexner got together and started essentially promoting the pharmaceutical modality being the only modality available, the homeopathy was still major. It is still there, it is available to anyone who wants to reach for it, it is just that their message has been suppressed by the owners of the media.

SCOTT: Yeah, absolutely, and with chiropractors, it is the same. And it is interesting, because in British Columbia, the chiropractic association had their annual meeting, and I think there are like 2300 chiropractors in British Columbia, and there were only about 180 at this meeting, so the 180 voted, and the remaining 2100 didn’t.

MARTIN: Yeah, I remember watching the news, they specifically voted for freedom of medical expression, that you should have the freedom to practice medicine as you see fit. Let me put it on record here – at Life Enthusiast, we do not practice medicine. We practice strengthening the healing facility of the body. We push up its natural ability to heal itself. I sell no medicine and I diagnose nothing. And if I speak about the immune system, it is in advocacy for natural ways. It has been really interesting, in the mass media over the last year and a half, maybe two… what has transpired is that the pharmaceutical companies, who exert practically total control over both the mass media and the politics, have stepped it up. They now want only their message to be projected, promoted, and allowed. So these days you can get your channel deleted, you can get your article unpublished, it is quite intense.

SCOTT: Yeah, it really is. They have gone full communism. I think it is like a circle, right?

MARTIN: Fascism is the label I would use, but you are right about the circle. In communism, the government owns everything, the government owns the business. And in fascism, the business owns the government.

SCOTT: Yeah, and both of them stop free expression.

MARTIN: Yes. Because once you fear freedom, the only thing left to you is to suppress freedom, suppress the expression of any opinion other than the one that you feel safe with. The suppression of freedom of thought, or freedom of expression, is the ultimate expression of knowing that you are full of shit. That your message is a lie. It is known as the ‘Emperor’s new clothes.’ You remember that innocent child who says: “But he is naked!” whereas everyone else was singing praises of those gorgeous new clothes that the emperor wore. Well, I don’t need to go over the whole story.

SCOTT: And the other story I think about is Chicken Little and “the sky is falling.” You know, “we have a new variant, and it is worse!”

MARTIN: Well, yeah, that again is a message that serves nothing. I don’t even know if I want to get into that. I mean, I can take it apart. There are many brave guys out there that I have listened to, like Dr. David Martin, Dr. Zach Bush, Tom… oh, if I could think of his last name, (Cowan) my memory isn’t as perfect as it should be, anyway, great guys who express themselves very clearly and explain this ’emperor’s new clothes’ very well. There are no clothes, there is no danger, there is nothing other than nature. Zach Bush does it really well in the following manner: We have evolved in interaction with nature, and this interaction makes us part of the fabric of life. In cancer, the cell behaves the way it does because it thinks it is alone. It has lost its connection to the rest of the body. And the only thing it knows to do is preserve itself, preserve itself by growing, and so it starts sucking in resources from around itself, trying to take more and more of the outside into itself, so that the principle is the growth, right? And so as cancer grows because the terrain allows it, it is going to grow at the expense of its host. So when 90% or more of the resources available in the organism itself are consumed in keeping cancer going, there is no solution other than for it to crash. And in a human, the crash is death.

But what is interesting in the economy, as I apply this analogy, is that we now have 1% of humanity controlling the rest of it, and sucking all the resources into itself. I think that mode of existence has only one direction, it is bound to crash. And I was thinking about money, you know, money economy. For example, we used to do all kinds of things for free before money, right? Years ago, it was common for a village to get together, do barn raising, or fix something together, or babysit each other’s children without asking money for it, we would feed each other without expecting money for it, and so on. Right? Like just a whole bunch of stuff was the free economy. And not everybody worked for cash. And of course, women got sucked in and so on. A lot of human activity, if not most, at least in the Western civilized industrialized world, has now been sucked into the money economy. There is less and less that is done for free. And I am thinking: What is next? Oh, the next thing is that we are just going to be giving away free money so you can buy stuff that you normally used to do for nothing.

SCOTT: (Laughing) Right! That certainly happened last year. The government told everybody: “Stay home, here is some money, so you don’t have to worry.” And I think that is gonna cause problems. What is it where you have a solution, and the solution is worse than the problem? So then it is another solution, and another solution, so it just spirals up until the whole thing just…

MARTIN: Yeah, kick the can down the road, that is the politician’s way or the economist’s way. Yeah. And this is the thing, you know, they call it the QE, quantitative easing, where they print more money, but the money doesn’t come from nowhere. I mean, it does come from nowhere, it just is created out of thin air.

SCOTT: But it has to go somewhere, right?

MARTIN: Well, the problem with the money is that it is created as debt, right? And the debt is owed by somebody to somebody. And in this case, it is the future generation that is asked to pay for this. When you create a bond, a bond is let’s just say a billion dollars or a trillion dollars. You create this bond, you issue the bond, you have the power to do it, but in doing so you have obligated the nation to pay it back. Well, the nation is your children and grandchildren. So you took it upon yourself to enslave your children and grandchildren to pay this back.

SCOTT: And at the same time, all that money going into the economy has to go somewhere. And so it goes into stocks, or it goes into housing, or it goes into Bitcoin, and then you see this massive increase in value, and it is not really an increase in value, it’s the devaluation. We look at it as “oh, my house is now worth a million dollars, I paid 50,000 for it 40 years ago,” but that is not the case, the house is still worth whatever $50,000 is, it is just that the value of the money has dropped so dramatically.

MARTIN: Yeah. The nominal versus the real value. Well, and so this is dealt with by inflation. It used to be that in around the year 1900, a man was paid $1 a day, and that was the man’s wage. And it used to cost about an ounce of gold to buy a very fine suit, the best-tailored suit was about an ounce of gold. Well, you can still get a fine suit for $2,000, which is about what an ounce of gold goes for today.

SCOTT: Yep.

MARTIN: Oh well, okay. So there we are. The road to hell is paved with the best intentions, and we are on it.

SCOTT: Yeah, it has never been clearer, has it?

MARTIN: (Laughing) The other saying that I have in my pocket says “The brighter the light, the darker the shadow.”

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: (Moving closer and further away from the light to demonstrate) Anyway, I don’t know if the demonstration is clear or not, but whatever you illuminate stronger will also cast a darker shadow.

SCOTT: So is part of what is happening in the world that we are just getting to the point where we are able to see the manipulation, the lies, or… I mean, obviously, what I see is very different from what many other people see, right?

MARTIN: Yeah, totally!

SCOTT: But I am just kind of wondering, are we just pushing the envelope to the point where it is just so obvious, even those that don’t want to believe it… Well, let’s get into cognitive dissonance!

MARTIN: Yeah, let’s get into that. It is really painful to have your worldview challenged to the point where it falls apart. I mean, the total destruction of what you believed. The year was 1999, and a movie Matrix was launched upon the world, and in it, Neo was offered a simple choice – red pill or blue pill. I’ll show you something, and then you can take the blue pill and you’ll go back to the way the world was, and you will remember nothing. Or you take the red pill and you can’t go back.

SCOTT: Yeah, do you think it is a coincidence that the Matrix IV movie is coming out very, very soon?

MARTIN: I am looking forward to it! I don’t know what it is going to be, maybe it is just going to be a whole bunch of gratuitous violence, people with dark sunglasses, guns, and long black coats doing stupid things, I don’t know, but maybe it is going to be super illuminating. I am hoping that they’re going to actually really crack it open.

SCOTT: Me too, me too!

MARTIN: Well, so yeah, about the world view, right? I grew up in a police state. I grew up fully indoctrinated. When I was 13 years old, my father was afraid to say anything in front of me because I might turn him in. By the time I was 16, I was starting to understand. By the time I was 24, I decided that I would just as soon leave there, go for freedom.

SCOTT: Can I interrupt you for just a second? Because you just brought up a really good point about children, because they don’t know, they just know what they’ve been told. They don’t have any way of critiquing it, judging it, or anything. And when you were talking, you reminded me of when my children were in that 8-12 year range, and I was divorced, they would come over and stay with me on Wednesday evenings, and every second weekend. And one of the things you do with two boys that are around 10 is you wrestle with them. So we would wrestle, and you always wrestle until somebody bumps their head and starts crying, that is just the nature of the beast. But their mom could not understand that, so she thought that I was being abusive, and the children, one in particular, was quite happy to prod her, and answer in ways that suggested: “Yes, dad has been very violent.” And one day, the three of us were over helping a friend of ours get ready for a party, and their sister’s husband, for some reason, and this was not unusual behavior, walked up to me and said like: “What the hell are you doing here?” and then hit me in the head with his fist. My glasses flew off, and that whole thing unfolded as it should, and I am walking home with the boys, and I am saying to my children: “Do you understand the difference now between abusive violence and wrestling?” I mean, they were just totally… eyes popped open with this whole situation that happened right in front of them.”

MARTIN: So you were unwelcome at that home? Is that what happened?

SCOTT: Well, I guess I was unwelcome by the husband, I thought I was welcomed by everybody, but turns out I was wrong. I was invited, I didn’t show up out of the blue. But after that happened, the kids knew the difference between violence and playing, there is no longer any gray area here, they totally understand. So that whole thing with their mother just stopped, she was already talking to lawyers and everything, and it just ended, because the kids were like: “No, dad is playing with us, that is playing, we now know what violence looks like, mom, and that is not violence.” So anyway, we were talking about cognitive… you were talking about… I forgot what you were talking about…

MARTIN: Well, the point was that when somebody is innocent and grows up fed with propaganda, and has nothing to reference it back with, they may think that the propaganda is actually the truth. Because there is no reference for it. Everybody around you is saying that the emperor’s clothes are gorgeous, this fabric is just so exquisite, you start to doubt your own eyes. You start to think that you are the crazy one, I mean, that is the extreme expression of it. But indeed, I don’t know if the politicians who I hear on television believe the story that they tell, or if the newsreaders are reading these stories and believe them. I mean, I am just shocked at the amount or the number of TV shows that I am having to just stop watching because I see that everyone on there has either sold out or has no clue. I don’t know. Either way, whatever they’ve got to say is known to be false. Fortunately, I don’t have one with me, but I use a pendulum, and I use muscle testing, and I can actually petition the universal consciousness, and make a statement. Such and such is true, or such and such is false. I can say “my eyes are brown,” which would come up as falsehood because they’re not. I could make a statement such as “this news-reader just made a truthful statement,” the universal consciousness knows, and it will pop it as ‘no.’

SCOTT: So getting back to cognitive dissonance…

MARTIN: Yeah, knowing that you are full of shit, and insisting that you are not?

SCOTT: No! Well, I think, first of all, we are able to lie to each other if we really want to, convincingly, to the point where we do actually believe what we are saying, even though most of our body knows that we are lying. Not to say that they can’t lie convincingly, but…

MARTIN: That will give rise to illness.

SCOTT: Yeah, and what are we seeing tons of? I mean the whole world closed down because of illness for the last 18 months, so I think, you know…

MARTIN: …I think there is much less illness than what has been put forward.

SCOTT: For sure.

MARTIN: And I sound like a lunatic suggesting that there is less illness. Here’s an interesting point, Paul Martin said that… is it Paul, or is it David? Geez… My memory is starting to not cooperate…

SCOTT: Paul Martin was a former prime minister of Canada.

MARTIN: Yeah, no, this is Dr. David Martin, I forget his first name. Anyway, he said: “Check the life insurance records. Are there more people dying or not? Is the cost of life insurance going up?” The answer is no, it is not. Take a look at the statistics of total death in any country. There is not even a blip. In fact, there is a decrease. So there is no ‘excess of people dying,’ there are just ‘people dying.’

SCOTT: Right, which has always happened.

MARTIN: Yeah. I mean, in The United States, 8,800 people die every day on average, somewhere around 3 million rounded up every year, that is just a natural turnover. Where do you assign it? What label do you put on each one of them, that has changed, but the number hasn’t changed. Anyway, speaking of perspective, being able to discern, and this is one thing that I have seen lacking in North American education, is the ability to think. Philosophy should be taught, and the ability to do inductive and deductive thinking should be yours, and you should be able to tell the difference, right?

SCOTT: Yeah. And the ability to take a position, and then to be able to make an intelligent argument pro, and an intelligent argument con, and now, that is not even allowed. There is no discussion. If someone disagrees with me, off with their head. It is the Red Queen in Alice In Wonderland! Off with their head! You are censored, you are shut down on social media…

MARTIN: I made myself some notes. I mean, this talk was supposed to be about predictions for the next year, that is what we do every year. If you look back, if you go back and re-listen to the one we recorded a year ago, you will notice that we were amazingly accurate in what we predicted. We were saying that there are going to be enormous upheavals and that we were hoping that it would go on the side of the dark, but we were concerned that it would fall on this… did I say it backward? Anyway, it is turning out pretty brown.

SCOTT: The dark side of the Force has had quite an impact in the last 18 months is what I would say.

MARTIN: Yeah. And it is the dark, the control, the surveillance, the manipulation, focus on the lack, the fascist and communist labels fit both. When you exert control by a few over many, it is the opposite of freedom, it is the opposite of abundance because in an abundant society you share freely.

SCOTT: Cause you know you got enough.

MARTIN: There will always be enough! Whereas in the controlled society, you… (laughing) I am sorry, my mind just goes wild, I am remembering Churchill putting out a statement, which said: “Yes, friends, capitalism is all about the unequal distribution of wealth, socialism on the other hand is the equal distribution of poverty.”

SCOTT: (Laughing) That is good.

MARTIN: And I lived it, and I understand it! We worked, we pretended to be working, and the government pretended to be paying us for it.

SCOTT: And you had a surplus of size 14 shoes, but no shoes for anybody else.

MARTIN: Something like that. The planned economy failed because the planners were nowhere near as smart as the forces of nature. However, we no longer have free capitalism, that needs to be said clearly, we have lost that.

SCOTT: Is that oligarchy? Isn’t that where you have got a few companies that control everything, as opposed to monopoly which is one?

MARTIN: I believe that in the United States it was lost when the supreme court decided on Citizens United, a decision which allows money to be an expression of free speech. So we no longer have an election with one man = one vote, you now have $1 = one vote, because you can buy stuff.

SCOTT: It is pretty obvious that whoever spends the most money wins the election 99% of the time. Because that is what they do. I mean, the news talks about it: “Oh, Obama raised more money than anyone else ever. Trump raised more money, or Biden raised more money.” And people believe what they see on the telly.

MARTIN: Well, and if you can buy more advertisements, you can lie all you want, your message will win. But anyway, I wanted to point to the fact that our talks were always anchored in cycles. I mentioned universal consciousness that is affected… (accidentally kicks the camera) Oops, that was a kick! The universal consciousness is affected by the positions…

SCOTT: The universal consciousness is going on right here, can you see it on my wall? (points to the wall where some shadows are dancing)

MARTIN: Yes, it is just beautiful, it is a beautiful, beautiful thing. So the universal consciousness, which is everybody on the planet, the people you like and don’t like, even the creeps and even the angels, everyone, they are all part of the universal consciousness. And all of that is affected by the positions of the planets. These energies are influencing it. And so these times go, and there are cycles within cycles, and things happen. So anyway, we have been spending some time talking about Pluto in Capricorn, and Pluto is the energy of destruction, or dissolving that which doesn’t work, or doesn’t deserve to stay alive. And we are processing the governments and cultural institutions, and how we make money, and so on, all of that. We have only a little bit left, and it is intensifying. We are heading into Aquarius.

SCOTT: We are heading into the climax. Oh yeah! (singing) The age of Aquarius…

MARTIN: Oh, no no no, different thing! Pluto in Aquarius. You sing it well, and it is relevant, but I am talking about Pluto in Aquarius. It is the Aquarius itself, the age of Aquarius, that doesn’t start for another hundred years.

SCOTT: Really?

MARTIN: Uh-huh.

SCOTT: So we are in this kind of gray area, this shadowy area, is that right?

MARTIN: Yeah, this is the dawning. But anyway, so we are now heading into the stuff that is of aquarian concern, but that doesn’t really hit until 2023-2024. So when that happens, we are going to see issues of money, digitization, internet, equality, humanity, ascension, you know, all of that.

SCOTT: Are you talking about like in two or three years from now?

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: Okay. Because you had said a hundred years, and then you said 2023-2024.

MARTIN: Oh no, no, no. I will have to say it one more time. We are currently NOT in the age of Aquarius.

SCOTT: It is another hundred years, and then we will be in the age of Aquarius.

MARTIN: Yeah. But what we are in right now is we are processing the issues with Pluto energies, destroying politics, church, money, and so on. All of this will still see two years of intense pressure. It is March of 2023 when finally things get bumped over when that Pluto pressure will switch from that onto “How we get along with one another,” humanities.

SCOTT: So this is why we are seeing such division, the right and the left, all the different races going after each other, and all that stuff, right?

MARTIN: Yeah, totally. The notes I made were in these words: volatile period, that activates issues and problems that did get stirred up last year, 2020, when Saturn first entered Aquarius. Anyway, don’t go looking for fights, you will easily find one.

SCOTT: That is so true. I just can’t believe how easy it is to get into an argument. Even people who agree with you, misinterpret what you say, and nobody is checking to see if the interpretation of what you said is what you meant. There is a saying about that: You may think you know what I said, but you have to understand what I said wasn’t what I meant.

MARTIN: (Giggling) We have had a really interesting event, an eclipse on November 19th, that is going to kick off things in a way, and that is going to stay with us until about April or so, April of next year, April of 2022, when issues of finances, currency, food, and money are going to be excessively pressurized. And then we have Saturn squaring Uranus, it always happens three times, and the third one is when it really hits home, and the third one of the three is December 24th, 2021. Christmas evening.

SCOTT: Two weeks from now as we are recording.

MARTIN: And to tell you, these are the keywords: sudden financial and economic collapse, revolution, protest, and civil unrest, terrorism, radicalization, industrial accident or incident, technological breakthrough, and/or disruption and failure, political and social breakthrough to a new order, gaining or losing rights or freedoms.

SCOTT: We have certainly been losing them up to now.

MARTIN: Well, and so it could flip the other way, right? Because it is the last of the three. The first one gives you the warning, the second one kicks you in the nuts, and the third one allows you to grow up.

SCOTT: Well, that is a good point too. Life is all about these pendulum swings, or the tides going in and the tides coming out. And when you are in it, it is kinda like “Oh my God, it is gonna be like this forever,” and no, it is gonna swing the other way sooner or later. And I am waiting for the swing back because we have surely seen a bad swing between the last two years.

MARTIN: Right. And so we are talking about Aquarius, right? Saturn, the planet that makes things real, the stuff that doesn’t allow you to be dreamy about anything, the solid stuff, is in Aquarius until March of 2023, so for the next two years or year and a half anyway, boost to all things Aquarian – science, technology, but also to humanitarian ideals, and social reforms. Also, a dramatic rise in civil unrest, disruptive and chaotic Pluto finally enters the Aquarius in the spring of 2023. So this whole thing, I am mentioning the words digitization, internet, digital currency, but also equality, humanity, and spiritual ascension, all at the same time. So this is going to be more disruptive than anyone ever imagined.

SCOTT: And we are seeing the beginning of it, because most of the major cities have protests every weekend, if not during the week. There will come a time when it is like “How many times do I have to march down the street with nobody paying any attention to me.” And last year in many of the cities in the United States they had riots, fires, and massive destruction.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is an interesting point, right? The mass media can ignore or hide the reality by not showing these events on the news, but if you stick your head out the window, then you see neighbors marching, you are going to say: “What are you guys marching about? Oh, you are marching about the same thing I would think I should march about as well. I am also not happy with how things are.” And that is how it needs to happen, we all need to decide what really matters, and what are the hills that we are willing to come to harm on. We need to stand up and be counted for values that we cherish. Cause if we don’t, then sure as anything they will be taken away.

SCOTT: The process is already happening, and that is why we need to stand up, for sure.

MARTIN: And therefore, here’s an interesting one, I looked it up. Venus retrograde in Capricorn until March of 2022. So come April – the end of blind faith.

SCOTT: Oh, I am happy to hear that.

MARTIN: Jupiter and Neptune joining in April of 2022, the blinders come off. I am talking about the emperor having no clothes, all of a sudden people will be just saying: “He is naked!”

SCOTT: Good. And you can see cracks happening now in that way.

MARTIN: So that is what I see in astrology. I don’t know, will it unfold? Each one of us actually has to put on our big boy pants and get involved. Nothing is given for free. Nothing is given. Oh, you know what? Next year, in the United States astrology, this coming year is the echo of 1776. What does that remind us of?

SCOTT: Revolution and freedom.

MARTIN: Shackles, shackles off!

SCOTT: A new start.

MARTIN: A new start. So the dates – March 3rd, Mars hits Pluto. April 4th, Mars hits Saturn. May 3rd, Jupiter hits Pluto. July 1st, Mars hits Pluto again. Those are all just dates when you say: “Oh, man!” We will see these hits. I don’t know what is all going to happen, what it is going to look like, but I think that come April, we are going to be living in a world that doesn’t talk the way it has been talking up to now. That is my prediction for this coming year. The emperor will be seen for having no clothes.

SCOTT: Awesome. Well, I am here looking after this guy, (picks up a cat) say hi! Beautiful cat, he likes sitting on my lap.

MARTIN: All right, so you have been neglecting him for too long.

SCOTT: He says: “Come and feed me, it is dinner time.” If he wants to sit here, then that is good. You know, this coming January, around January 9th, is the fifth anniversary of me leaving home. And when I left, my sons were no longer at home, and I didn’t have to be in one place to look after them. I went to Morocco, and I have continued to travel. I have been back home a few times, but one of the reasons that I was so determined to go out into the world and see the world was I was absolutely convinced that the world was going to shut down. And the reason at that time was I thought the United States was going to have a war with North Korea and a war with Iran. It was before Hillary Clinton did not win the presidency, I was sure she was going to win, and if she was, she was going to continue in that direction. To me, that is all I saw was them heading to war. Uh oh, one of the claws is stuck in my pants! Fortunately it’s not stuck in me! So, you know, you were talking about consciousness and everything else… What I feared came to pass last year, not for the reason that I thought, but it did come to pass. And now the world is a lot more closed than it has been in probably a hundred years…

MARTIN: I am certainly limited in my travels.

SCOTT: Yeah. I cannot go back to Canada unless I get a vaccination, and I am not planning on doing that, so…

MARTIN: You are stuck out there as a permanent nomad.

SCOTT: Yeah! It is not a bad thing, but… (Putting the cat back on the floor) Bye-bye! So the idea that the blinders are going to come off, people are going to be thinking, to me it is quite amazing. Someone I know called people that weren’t vaccinated ‘plague pigs,’ so I have been using that as a hashtag ever since.

MARTIN: I am having trouble understanding, try me one more time.

SCOTT: Plague! Plague pigs. So you are a pig, and you are spreading a plague because you are not getting vaccinated.

MARTIN: Oh, you mean, you are telling me that people who are not vaccinated are spreading things?

SCOTT: I am telling you that is what this person thinks.

MARTIN: That is interesting. Well, I hope his blinders will come off someday. I started talking about Dr. Zach Bush and his theories of cancer, and I think I didn’t finish the thought, which was that…

SCOTT: Yeah, the tumor grows and grows until it takes over 90% and you die.

MARTIN: Yeah, until it sucks in all resources, and then the organism that was the host dies. He extrapolated it into the economy, where in the society, if most resources are being sucked in a very small part or percentage of them, then again, that modality has to just collapse. But the other part that he declared was that the virus is in fact responsible for our evolution. You cannot have evolution without a virus doing something. So first of all, a virus doesn’t have genetics of its own, it has to borrow the genetics of a bacterium or a living creature in order to reproduce itself. Without that, it is like a book. Imagine a book, a book is nothing but ink and paper, until you open it and read it, right? The thoughts in the book are nothing unless you are reading it. Otherwise, it is just an object that contains information but does nothing.

MARTIN: So anyway, you need to take the virus in and allow it to reproduce and then send it back out. Every time this happens, it is being reproduced by a creature like me. So I exert influence over it. And so whatever happens inside of me is now exported out to the ‘out there.’ So when I am spending time with you in the same room, especially if we would have gotten intimate with one another, like touching or whatever, then my messages are touching you and getting into you, and your messages are coming into me. So your inner terrain becomes intimate with me. My inner terrain becomes intimate with you. We evolve together. So when we try to shut down the evolution by shutting down this transmission, it is cancer behavior, it is isolating stuff from the rest of the world.

SCOTT: That is not the way the world works.

MARTIN: Well, there is an important concept, again, credit to Zach Bush for saying it, the second law of thermodynamics is immutable. An isolated system is destined for destruction through entropy. You cannot increase integrity within a closed system, you can only decrease integrity. The only way that something can get stronger is by interaction with something outside itself. I can only exist by breathing, inhaling, exhaling. If I stop that, if I stop the interaction with the outside, I am done. I have to ingest food and poop out. And my poop is the food for something else.

SCOTT: Right. It should be.

MARTIN: It is, I promise. But anyway, the point is this – the direction of the technological intervention, where we try to isolate and block, create some kind of a moat, behind which there exists a sterile unthreatened environment, object, me, impervious or isolated from outside, is a fallacy, that has sentenced me to death. The only way I can exist is if I throw my windows and doors open, and interact with the world. That whole concept of sterility and germ theory and killing off of invaders is wrong. The only way this will work is if we marry the invaders and have children with them.

SCOTT: Right. And isn’t that what happened every time in history? The barbarians are at the gate, and sooner or later they get through, and something new comes from that.

MARTIN: Yeah. And even in its death, the old civilization becomes part of the new.

SCOTT: The foundation of the new, yeah.

MARTIN: Indeed. I am here telling you that the entire concept and system of sterile, safe, shaking in your boots, afraid of invader existence, is wrong.

SCOTT: It causes more problems than it solves.

MARTIN: Well, it will only lead to entropy, which essentially means death. Those of us who will embrace things like Nano Soma, for example, or things of that sort, will be able to interact with the world because we are able to repair the minor damage as it happens. If you weaken your inner works and hope that technology comes to your rescue… Oh, I need to say this. You and I have talked about this many times when we were talking about flu shots long ago. The statistics were coming up that with every succeeding flu shot, the probability of mental decline was increasing for the seniors. That is because when you insert adjuvants and toxic things of any sort into the body, they don’t necessarily get eliminated, they just increase the toxic burden, which then, in the long run, make things worse, not better. So you are saving yourself from short-term pain, but you are increasing your long-term loss, right? Well, so imagine now that you are sentenced to an every-six-month new shot. How many of those six-month renewals will your immune system sustain before it caves?

SCOTT: And let’s just put this out there too: It is an experiment that won’t stop. Evidently, the end time is March or something, 2023. I think I can safely say, neither of us agrees with this at all, even if we did agree with it, it is not something that they’ve been doing for 25 years, and it has been proven to be fine, and they have double-blind studies and all these sorts of things that they do. They’re in the middle of an experiment. You know, this isn’t aspirin. It is not something that has been around for 50 years, it has been around for eight months or ten months or something.

MARTIN: Well, actually, the technology has been around longer, and the previous tests have all failed badly. We are betting that the tweak that was introduced nine months ago was a success. That is sort of like saying: “Well, all the previous rockets failed, but this last tweak we are sure is going to take us all the way to orbit.”

SCOTT: I would say it is like saying all the previous rockets failed and they fell on the herd of cows and killed them, but this one we are going to aim and it is going to land in the city, but we are pretty sure it is going to work.

MARTIN: Yeah, something like that. Well, anyway, whatever the metaphor is. The second law of thermodynamics will win out. If you, the listener, are still harboring the thought and belief that you can protect yourself and find yourself behind armor, and behind defenses that are making your environment impenetrable, just be reminded. Entropy wins.

SCOTT: Well, Martin, I think that is a really good place to end this review. And I am looking forward to next year. I have some trepidation, but you know, I got through 2020 fine, and I got through 2021 fine, and 2022 is going to be fine.

MARTIN: I am looking forward to our next year’s review, Scott! And I hope to see you in person one of these days.

SCOTT: Me too. Thanks, Martin

MARTIN: Thanks, everyone, for spending your time with us.

SCOTT: Bye everyone!

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Podcast 423: Humic Acid and Zeolite

Dr. Howard Peiper, a naturopathic doctor and author of many books, is joining Martin today to discuss his career journey, uses and benefits of Zeolite, and a wonderful antiviral known as humic acid!

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MARTIN: Hello everyone! This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and with me today is Dr. Howard Peiper. Dr. Peiper, welcome to the show!

HOWARD: Thank you, Martin! I feel honored being on your show, thank you!

MARTIN: The honor is truly mine. You are the one with tons of experience, and the chops to tell us what you know. Dr. Peiper has written many books for folks that are wanting to get educated in the ways of natural healing. He comes with a storied background going back to Bernard Jensen and the days of my original teachers. In fact, I think we both may be in a similar age group, what do you think?

HOWARD: Well, I will be hitting 80 in a couple of weeks.

MARTIN: Oh, I am only 69. Thank you for having the headstart on me! That is most welcome. You have written around 40 books, did I get it right? That in itself is an awesome accomplishment. I am still working on my first.

HOWARD: (laughing) The first one is always the hardest.

MARTIN: Okay. (laughing) Anyway, would you mind reviewing a bit of your life for our listeners?

HOWARD: Oh, of course. Thank you. As you mentioned, I am a doctor, a naturopathic doctor, that is my second career, I call it ‘my second lifetime.’ In my first lifetime, I was an optometrist for a number of years, and it was really interesting. In 1972, I got to meet Dr. Bernard Jensen, he was one of my mentors, and he taught me how to do iridology. And being an optometrist and doing iridology, I was doing both at the same time, and just keeping it within the first career. Then I had an opportunity of getting my naturopathic license in the early seventies, and I went forward, and I decided in the early nineties to change careers. So I became a naturopathic doctor, living in Florida at that time. And I made a connection working with a magazine called Explore magazine, which I don’t know if it is still around, and I met a wonderful woman named Christine Jackson. Actually, she was up in your neck of the woods, and I almost moved to Mount Vernon, Washington, back in the early nineties, so we might have been neighbors.

I started writing some articles for her, and made a connection with Nina Anderson, who wrote a book on living in a pollution-free house. We started corresponding back and forth. At that time she was in Connecticut, and our first book was ‘Are You Poisoning Your Pets?’ Then we went into a booklet called ‘The Secrets of Staying Young.’ This was back in the mid nineties. We wrote a couple of other books together, and our bestseller, which is still a bestseller after all these years, we are talking about maybe 25-28 years, is the ‘ADD and ADHD Diet.’ It has been used by thousands and thousands of parents, mothers, doctors, it has been translated to Spanish, so I’ve been down in Mexico many times, and people still use that information.

MARTIN: We are going to post links to your books in the show notes. Are you selling through Amazon?

HOWARD: Yes, we are selling through Amazon. The books that I am talking about are still available, the ADD book, The Secrets of Staying Young, the one about poisoning your pets, are still available on Amazon, you may have to get it through maybe a second seller, it is not in print anymore. So fast forward 10, maybe 15 years, I wrote a book, which we will talk about today. It is about Zeolite, and I will explain how I got that information about Zeolite. And then the other book we will talk about in a little while is called ‘Viral Immunity with Humic Acid,’ and then my other latest book, ‘Getting to Know NO: The Nitric Oxide Revolution.’ And then the last book is ‘H2 Water For Life.’ It goes beyond alkaline water, it talks about hydrogen water.

What I tried to find through the years is what is on the cutting edge. What is the latest? And what I love about self-publishing… Nina and I have gone our separate ways years ago, so the last 25 books have been just mine, and I self-publish, I can constantly revise them. The viral immunity book that I will talk about, I wrote that one in 2003, and I also had information about coronavirus in it, and so last year with the pandemic, I said: “I am going to bring this up to date,” and it has become very popular. It is the same thing with the Zeolite book and the same thing with the nitric oxide book.

MARTIN: That is great! What is interesting about this is that your experience roughly parallels mine. I got ill in 1977 with an installation of 12 mercury amalgam fillings, and it took me down. I used to be a business consultant, MBA in computer science and business administration. And then over the years, my career was successful, but my body was falling apart. And about 10 years in, having tried the mainstream medical way first, and then the alternative way, I spent a lot of money on chiropractors, because my body was falling apart. And then I spent a lot of money with naturopaths because I was getting allergies and I was breaking down in multiple ways. But interestingly enough, I was not getting a lot of help because most of these people were chasing the symptoms rather than asking about the cause. So my story essentially led me to discovering zeolite and discovering that zeolite was the way to get out of the mercury toxicity. So that is kind of interesting that you came to discover zeolite and all of that as well, right?

HOWARD: Well, people have contacted me asking, for example before I wrote the Zeolite book, they were asking: “Have you heard about something called zeolite?” I go: “No, no, I haven’t.” And I am the type of person that if somebody knocks three times on my door, I need to answer it. So I actually had two other people ask me about zeolite. I was speaking at a health conference in Denver, Colorado, in 2003 or 2004, and somebody came up to me when I was doing a book signing for one of my books, and asked: “Have you heard of zeolite?” And I thought: Oh, okay, now this is a third time, now I need to find some information about zeolite. And I started doing some research, I started putting something together, and I found some really interesting facts.

The Russians have been using it, the Croatians have been using Zeolite, farmers and ranchers have been using zeolite for all these years, so why isn’t it available, or if it is available, where is it? So I started doing my homework, and that is when I came up with the book on Zeolite. One of the main things that I am really proud of is that in all my books, I am not promoting any products. At the back of the book, I will recommend whatever specific product that I’ve done the research and I’ve done a study on. So I found a company that has the purest form of zeolite powder, and I felt very, very comfortable with it. The book became very popular.

We need to go through a cleansing process, we need to go through a detox. It is going to get kind of rough, but this is what we are going to need to do. When I started writing the information about zeolite, I read things like: forget about the terrible feeling that we are going to have, the healing process is not going to be disastrous, it is a very gentle way of detoxifying. As I am writing this information for the public, I am also using it with clients and my patients when they come in. This is what I have found, this is what I have written, this is what I would recommend, it is a very gentle way of detoxifying the heavy metals, detoxifying the environmental toxins.

You mentioned the amalgams, so what a beautiful way of gently removing the mercury without interfering, without affecting the rest of the body. A lot of dentists became very interested and said: “Oh, what is this zeolite? I said: “Well, read the book, read the book!” They would read the book, and they would understand it. And then I said: “This is the company that I recommend that I am very, very comfortable with. And this is who I would recommend.” Because I don’t sell products, I write books.

MARTIN: Well, fortunately, we have been a distributor of this very same product since our inception in 2005. Our company started in 1988, that was the Life Enthusiast Version 1.0, before the Internet, the Life Enthusiast 2.0 went online in 2002, and we started out in superfoods, and have been using zeolite as a binder and as an add-on tool. But anyway, I have been recommending the same products that you have been recommending. In fact, you have created a website, I think it is called zeolitedosing.com, is that correct?

HOWARD: Right, right. Because if people are interested, hopefully, they will buy the book, possibly on Amazon, but if they need more information, they can go to zeolitedosing.com, and that will explain doses for maintenance, for children, beyond maintenance, for example, like for candida, there are different types of dosages. People say: “Why do I need to read your book? I don’t think I have any heavy metals. You know, I eat healthy, I drink alkaline water.” And I just say: “My dear friend, if you live in this toxic world like I am living in, whatever I do, I am going to be breathing toxins in, they are going to be absorbed through my skin, there’s a need for me to go through a detox, it is a need for me to at least take it once.”

I’ve been really blessed with a lot of old-timers from the forties and fifties and sixties, people from old school naturopathy. The new school is great, I love it, but the old school is what I was taught, and I love preventative measures, preventative medicine. So especially if I am doing iridology and I can see what is going on within the body, what is the potential of a problem, I say: “Here are my suggestions. This is what I would suggest because something is going to happen, possibly because this is what you have inherited. We don’t have to take a bunch of different things, but what a great way to start by taking this great zeolite powder that I recommend in the book to help start to detoxify!”

MARTIN: This is so interesting because my healing process, and it was not easy, was righted when I discovered Jensen and his methods. And I actually started with iridology, I would call it a self-study. I bought his booklet and I studied that, and I looked at myself and my wife and whoever else I could find and learned enough to be dangerous. I was using it on myself to self-direct, and indeed I was able to see the changes, it is quite profound, it is a fantastically useful tool, right?

HOWARD: I have one famous story of one of my clients many, many years ago. I did iridology and found there were certain conditions with the eye, the iris itself was cloudy, there was a lot of stuff going on. I put her on various different supplements, and of course the zeolite powder. I would say probably within six or seven months, she came back for a recheck, and her eyes were clear, brighter, that cloudiness had gone away. And that is the quickest I’ve ever seen somebody really, really interact with the different supplements that I had recommended for her to take.

MARTIN: Yeah, I have my own story of this sort. I was working with a fellow, I am looking at his eyes, I am seeing cloudiness and I am seeing issues, he was about 45 then, and I am saying: “You know, you have issues, do you want some information?” No, he didn’t want information. He died at 65 of prostate cancer. You know, there are predictors, right, it is somewhat prophetic. And you already said it – prevention is the queen of this whole realm.

HOWARD: Yeah. As a naturopathic doctor, I consider myself the messenger. If people are willing to listen, great. If they are not, you know…

MARTIN: Freedom of choice, right?

HOWARD: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, freedom of choice.

MARTIN: So the other thing that meant the world to me was when I discovered humic acid. And sure enough, you wrote about it. How did that find you?

HOWARD: Again, I am telling you the truth with all this stuff, the last few books have been based on people asking me: “Have you heard of this? Have you heard of humic acid?” One of my clients had come to me asking about humic acid. I’ve heard of fulvic acid because there were a lot of minerals in it, and I believe it comes from humate from the soil. And then, believe it or not, somebody else came in at another conference asking: “Hey doc, you know about humic acid?” And I go: Oh, there’s that third time again! So I wrote this book back in 2003, I was out in California then, and I found some studies on humic acid. In fact, there was even one study from the NIH, which I have in the booklet, that is very, very powerful.

It works great as an antiviral. I put the book together and it became very, very popular, particularly in California, people were really, really interested in it, especially when we are talking about the HIV virus and other different viruses, hepatitis virus, and such. Then last year, when the pandemic started, and they were talking about coronavirus, I went: “Hey, wait a second! I think I wrote something about coronavirus,” and I found an old booklet and I brought it up to date, and now it has become very, very popular again, it is an educational tool. All my books are tools of information, they are a way to educate yourself. How you make your decision is up to you, whoever you are. I wrote this information, I have researched humic acid, and the ability of what it can do as an antiviral is absolutely amazing.

MARTIN: Have you done much searching or testing about the various sources of humic?

HOWARD: I have, and it is sad to say I’ve only found a couple of companies that I am really, really comfortable with, and I have one of them in the back of the book.

MARTIN: I don’t know if the one that we use most is the one you write about… well, you probably haven’t seen it, so maybe I need to send you some samples to try!

HOWARD: I’d love that, yes please, whenever you want me to take a look at it, I am a good guinea pig! I am glad to help you with this.

MARTIN: How do you discern a good one from a bad one?

HOWARD: Well, it depends where the source is, I’ve only found two manufacturers that make a clean humic acid, strictly humic acid, and use it as an antiviral. When people say: “Well, I have humic and fulvic acid.” For me, if I am concerned about an antiviral, I want strictly humic acid, and let’s see where the source is coming from. Fulvic acid? Honestly, I am not impressed with it, because there’s a lot of other trace minerals that are out there that are just as good as fulvic acid. So if I want to focus strictly on the antiviral, then I want a specific type of humic acid that will actually encapsulate it and trap the virus, so that it is not absorbed into the cells.

MARTIN: Do you want to reveal some of the secrets of the humic, or shall we just say: “Go buy the book?”

HOWARD: Yes, go buy the book! Actually, I believe you carry this product, I took the combination of zeolite and humic acid. We found that people that are going on a cruise and then getting food poisoning, or they maybe drink a little too much and they have a problem, enjoy this combination. I tell people: “Buy a bottle, put it on your shelf, just like a bottle of aspirin. You are going to buy a bottle, have the combination of zeolite and humic acid on your shelf, as soon as there is this itchiness or scratchiness, you know, take a couple of capsules and it really helps with that. Or if you are traveling… today, I do everything via Zoom, so I love that I don’t have to travel, but when I was doing a lot of traveling, I always took a bottle with me because I am going to be on a plane, I am going to be in a hotel, I am going to be in a conference, even though it may be a “health conference,” there are still a lot of sick people there at the health conference. So I take that with me.

MARTIN: Yeah, I will put the link to that very product you are talking about right in the show notes.

HOWARD: It is great for traveling, absolutely. For the kids in school, teachers… I’ve had a lot of teachers come up to me and go: “What do I do to help prevent? I love my children with their snotty little noses, but they are coughing and sneezing. What do I do to prevent myself from getting sick?” I say: “This product, the zeolite, and the humic acid, is a great product to take. Take a couple in the morning, take a couple in the afternoon, that helps prevent.” That is the whole bottom line of all my books – prevention.

MARTIN: Indeed. I am looking forward to maybe setting up another talk with you where we get to explore maybe the Nitric Oxide and the Water, those are also topics dear to me, we do carry water structuring tools, the structured or energized water, it has a thousand different names. Chemists say: “It is H2O, what is your problem?” I say: “Well, you perhaps don’t understand how the molecules relate to one another.” So anyway, I’d love to talk to you about that soon.

HOWARD: Sure! Okay!

MARTIN: So for now, let’s just not overstretch the talk, and let’s just say this – if you want to keep your health, and if you want to look as good at eighty as Dr. Howard Peiper, then you probably need to practice what he’s preaching. You will find links to his books, links to the websites and products in the show notes. Thank you very much, Dr. Howard Peiper! This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast, where we restore vitality to you and to the planet, every day.

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Podcast 422: Living Water with Monica Leal

MARTIN: Hi everyone! This is Martin Pytela for the Life Enthusiast podcast, and with me today is Monica Leal, a multi-year veteran in health and water technologies. I have met Monica not long ago, but now that I have watched several of her presentations, I am thoroughly impressed by the depth of her knowledge, and the thoroughness of her research, and just how well she is versed with what we are going to talk about. I want to talk to you about the following: As you know, we have been presenting water technologies on the inexpensive side, the most affordable solutions. Today is going to be different. We are going to be going straight for the best, the highest quality, but also the highest price point. Welcome aboard, Monica!

MONICA: Thank you, Martin! I just want to say I am really impressed with you, and also with the variety and absolutely huge and wonderful selection you have on your website! I found a few things there that I am very impressed with as well, so I am really glad to discover your website! Thank you for having me!

MARTIN: Sure thing! We are going to be talking about how hydration, oxidation, and hydrogenation are an issue for a human being, how the oxygen molecule and the hydrogen molecule are dancing with one another, and how they interact with the human physiological experience. And by the end of this presentation, you should be excited to try what we have to talk about. So, Monica, I understand you are concerned about making sure that we disclaim correctly what we are about to say, right?

MONICA: Yes, I have to do the obligatory disclaimer, you know, because we live in very rocky, tumultuous times as far as the medical system goes, so I just want to say that I am not a doctor, nothing I say is intended to treat or diagnose or cure or heal any disease whatsoever, and certainly not the big C. Either big C, we got two big Cs now, we have got the old big C, and now the new big C. I am not making any medical claims on that. And if you have any sort of medical conditions, please consult your doctor, and get that out of the way first.

MARTIN: Yep, I am no doctor either, there is no medical advice here, just my opinions.

MONICA: Yeah, exactly. Everything I am going to say is my own personal opinion. I would like to share my own personal story, and also my dog’s story. I am not even going to tell you my story right away, I am going to tell you that a little later, because if I tell you now, you are not going to believe me. And some people might think: “eh, testimonials, you hear them all the time with all these various products, they always have testimonials.” I am not going to start with that, but I will start with my dog. I have to show you my dog. And then what I’d like to do is talk about what I consider another very dire threat that is out there that people are not probably not aware of. And I am not talking about the ones we know, I am talking about something equally serious, and I am going to show you some of the research, some of the scientific and medical research regarding that, and how this water might play a role in helping to mitigate those risks.

MARTIN: All right, tell me about your dog.

MONICA: Okay. So this is a picture of my dog Midnight, he is a little Schipperke, and this picture shows him at the age of about 15. I actually don’t know how old he was exactly, because he was a rescue. When I got him, he was already grown and based on how long I had him, that put him in at least 15, and they usually live until about 14-15, so he was actually the grayest, oldest Schipperke anybody had seen at this point in time. And this little dog, he had such pain he could barely walk. I would have to pick him up and carry him outside in the morning to go potty, his eyes were milky white, he was blind, he was deaf… He was in such pain I was about to have him put down because I didn’t want him to suffer. About two years prior to that, I had had a lot of serious health issues myself, and I had bought an alkaline water machine from some random brand that is out there, and I had it for a couple of years, never noticed anything. I had some dramatic experiences later when I switched to the brand that I have now, but at that time I had this other brand.

During the time I had that old machine is when Midnight developed this extreme pain condition and his eyes went milky white. He was drinking the water from that machine, just for the record. Then that machine broke, and I got this other one. Within two weeks, this dog woke us up at six in the morning, running around, dancing and prancing, like a puppy ready to play! I opened the back door and he ran outside. I mean, he literally ran outside! This dog couldn’t walk before, but now he was running, and I was like: “What in the world?” So that is what happened with Midnight, and by the way, he lived four more years. Six months later he was less gray and his eyes turned mostly brown again, they weren’t so milky white, he could run, he could play fetch. About a year later I got another dog, so I am going to show you a picture of Trip. The first picture on the left is in 2011, right after I got him, he was the same breed. Notice his chin is a little gray. He was already 7 years old when I got him, and he was starting to get a little bit gray. I started him on the water from the beginning, and look at the picture on the right! This was taken in 2018, and notice his chin is maybe a little bit more gray, but not much. He certainly doesn’t look much older, even though he is the same age as Midnight when I got him!

MARTIN: I understand what you are getting at! What you are trying to illustrate for me here is that the dogs don’t gray as much when they are drinking good water, right?

MONICA: These dogs just didn’t age! Midnight was already 15, and you saw how gray he was, but it was like he didn’t age after I started giving him the water, and he was still solid, he didn’t have any bone loss, he was still solid. So now I am going to tell you part of my story, and I am going to show you some of the research. When you look at my hair, you can see some blonde, right? It doesn’t look totally gray. I am 61, and…

MARTIN: …oh, you mean this is uncolored? Wow, look at you! Well, I am clearly not drinking good enough water!

MONICA: I have never colored my hair in my life. I was about to start coloring my hair about 14-15 years ago, in my late forties, because you know, that is what women do, right? I didn’t want to because of the chemicals, but I was about to, you know, vanity was winning. Because my hair was way, way grayer than it is now. I mean, I do have a few strands, I am not saying I don’t have any, but I was over half gray. During that two-year period, when I had that other machine, is when my hair turned gray, and I was going through menopause, and I had not ovulated in about five years. I know this is probably too much information for men, but I had no more fertility, I was going through menopause, my hair was over half gray, and then that machine broke, so I got this new machine. In three months, I had my fertility back, I had perfect cycles like clockwork for the next 10 or 11 years, and in another three months’ time my friends said: “Oh, I see you started coloring your hair!” Because I have blonde hair, when I get in the sun, you can see it being lighter, and I haven’t gotten any more new gray hair since then! Also, I had a lot more wrinkles 14 years ago than I do now.

MARTIN: Alright, stop, stop all of this talk, and tell me what are you drinking?

MONICA: Okay. The next image I am going to show you is bottled water. What do you notice about this picture? A bunch of cases of bottled water sitting out in the sun.

MARTIN: Yeah, you are probably showing me plastic bottles with horrible tap water in it.

MONICA: Well, you know, it might have had good water at the beginning when they bottled it, they might have put good beautiful spring water from XYZ mountain spring, it might’ve been wonderful, but when it is sitting out in the sun for hours and hours and hours, and who knows how long it has been in the bottle in the first place. Can you imagine how much plastic is leaching into that water? Just think about it. On average, humans take in about half a teaspoon of plastic nanoparticles or microparticles on a daily basis. We really don’t need more plastic in our bodies from the water. But not only that, think about what happens when you cut open an apple. Everybody knows fruits and vegetables are loaded with antioxidants, right? Open an apple and leave it sitting on the counter for a while. It turns brown, right?

MARTIN: It is oxidation!

MONICA: It is oxidation, exactly. So everybody knows that happens to apples and fruits and vegetables, but people don’t realize that it happens to water as well. Water is also either antioxidant or oxidizing, just like fruits and vegetables. And if you could get water out of a bubbling spring, like what’s behind me here, if that was real… If you could get water fresh out of the mountain spring at that moment in time, it is like that apple picked fresh from the tree. It is fresh, it is antioxidant, and it is wonderful. But within a few hours, that electrical charge pretty much dissipates and it is gone. So as soon as they pipe it into the system or they bottle it, it is pretty much dead. It is like canned peas compared to fresh peas out of the garden. You know, there is just no comparison. So my philosophy is why drink oxidizing water when I can drink antioxidant water?

This is something we can measure. There is a meter, it is a little device called an oxidation-reduction potential meter, or ORP meter. You can actually test your water and see if it is oxidizing or antioxidizing. And if it is oxidizing, it is going to have a positive number. If it is an antioxidant, it will have a negative number. Green tea, for example; everybody knows that it is a really powerful antioxidant, right? That would measure at about -80 mV or so. But this water fresh out of the machine can be negative -800 mV! The highest I have ever clocked out of my machine is over -900. That is way more, 10 times more powerful than green tea!

MARTIN: I guess what should be said is that this is the willingness to be in an oxidative reductive transaction, which means essentially the willingness to donate an electron. When you showed the apple a moment ago, oxidation happens when electrons get stolen from the surface of the apple, that is the potential through which the oxidation-reduction happens, and that is the willingness to donate these electrons. It is actually standard chemistry, but it is good to know that there is such a thing as life-supporting water!

MONICA: Exactly! So really what this technology is doing is just putting it back into the state that it was in when it first came out of that mountain spring if you could get it at that moment. Everybody knows, I mean, I hope most of your customers are not drinking tap water. I think your customers are more savvy than that, they are knowledgeable. Everybody knows not to drink tap water, right? It is loaded with chemicals. So most people have a filtration system, or they buy bottled water of some sort. I just have to say that any of that is better than drinking tap water, obviously.

The first step is you want to make sure the water is clean, filter it somehow, but that is only the first step. It could be very clean, it could have come through a wonderful filtration system, test clean of contaminants, and yet be oxidizing, and actually stealing electrons rather than donating them. With this water, it is donating electrons by the trillions. When you drink a glass, it is more of an instantaneous thing, it just floods your whole body with electrons, it goes everywhere, because water goes everywhere in your body, pretty much. It is not like food antioxidants, like blueberries, where they kind of stay in your system looking for free radicals. This is more of an electrical antioxidant, rather than a food antioxidant. It is different.

So the fact that I delayed menopause by almost 11 years, and my hair is still the same, I reversed the gray and I am still blonde, what does that say? I kind of feel like I am biologically younger than I was before I started drinking it. Keep in mind, I am not saying it fixed everything, it did not solve all my problems, but it did resolve a lot of issues, which I will tell you more about later. I was already eating organic, plant-based, doing everything right, drinking fresh juices, eating superfoods, all that great stuff. And yet I still had issues, so for me, the water was what made that big of a difference, it was pretty profound. But I would like to show you a little bit of the research.

MARTIN: Great. Let’s have it. It is good to know that whatever you are going to tell us is actually backed by solid science. We are just not pulling it off the ethers.

MONICA: Right. Because like I said, you hear testimonials all the time, all over the place, and people say: “oh yeah, yeah, that is an anecdote or whatever.” Well, there is actually some research to back this up. So this first slide I am going to show is from the Institute of Medicine, College of Medicine, Taiwan. This particular one is for the hepatoprotective effect of electrolyzed reduced water against some kind of liver damage in mice. That has to do with the liver. There is a lot of animal studies. This water, in addition to being an antioxidant, is also alkaline. And what I hear people say all the time is: “Oh no, you shouldn’t drink alkaline water, it is going to dilute your stomach acid, and it is going to make you too alkaline.”

There is some truth to that if you drink alkaline water from a machine that just makes it alkaline, but it isn’t a medical grade machine. Or if you just add baking soda to pure water. There are a whole lot of pills and potions and all kinds of ways to make water alkaline. Some of them will actually make your water a little bit antioxidant as well, or they will energize it a little bit. There is a lot of things that you can do, but those methods of making your water alkaline don’t do much for the structure of the water. And for that reason, there is some truth to those statements. It can dilute the stomach acid, you should not drink it with meals, because you can impair your digestion, et cetera, although the idea that it can make your blood pH too alkaline is absolutely a myth, that is absolutely not true.

It might affect your urine pH, but not the blood pH, because that stays within a very narrow range. This next slide is from Juntendo hospital in Japan, and this study says: “For those suffering from low gastric juice, the presence of antioxidant water will stimulate the stomach cells to secrete more gastric juice.” Now, presumably, this is medical-grade antioxidant water from a medical-grade machine. Usually, when they do medical studies, they are going to use medical-grade equipment, they are not going to use some cheap stuff, right? So if you are low in stomach acid, it can actually help create more stomach acid.

“However, on the other hand, for those with high gastric juice, the antioxidant water neutralizes the excessive gastric juice. According to a medical lecturer from Maeba University, the pH of gastric secretion will still remain normal when antioxidant water is consumed. This proves that the ability of the antioxidant water is able to neutralize as well as stimulate the secretion.” So in other words, it will balance it in either direction. So that kind of puts that whole argument to rest, at least if you get a proper medical-grade machine. If you have something less than that, then that may be a concern. I have found my digestion is way better since I have been drinking this water. I don’t worry about drinking it with meals, although you probably still shouldn’t drink a whole lot of water with meals, I don’t have an issue at all.

So remember I mentioned, there is an elephant in the room, right? The big C and the big V. I won’t say what they are, but I think everybody knows what they are. I won’t get into politics or controversial stuff. Hopefully, this chat will be out on your website for years to come after this big issue is over, but for right now, in 2021, it is on everybody’s minds. Everybody is freaked out, everybody is taking sides. Do you, or don’t you? Should you, or shouldn’t you?

MARTIN: Let’s just be clear, we are talking about the immune system either working or not working, and either being able to eliminate the viral infections, or not. When we are living a regular life as we have lived until 2019, I suppose, we would just say: “Well, there is the bug going around, and the bug goes around, and some people get sick with it and some don’t.” There is an argument. The argument goes: Is the terrain more important, or is the invader more important? The mainstream media would have you think that when the invasion is coming, everybody is going to fall ill with it, but that is not how it happens. Invasion comes, and a third of the population falls ill, and we call it an epidemic, but that is not really what happens to the other part of the population. How come not everybody is getting ill, right?

MONICA: I am a terrain girl myself.

MARTIN: Well, there we go, we are terrain people, it is just that we have been told a story about the germ theory that has us thinking that it is the germs that do it. Well, they do it, but only to those whose terrain is fertile enough to take it.

MONICA: Exactly. So what has that got to do with water? Well, if it can improve your health, then it is always a good idea. We all know that the so-called antidote to that, or the preventative to that, has a whole world of controversy that I am very concerned about because to me, it is a big experiment. It is actually a drug trial. That is a fact. And when you are dealing with the DNA, what could possibly go wrong? We don’t know! We don’t know the repercussions of that. So I am not going to go really into that any more than that. But the reason I bring that up is that we are all aware of that threat, potentially affecting the DNA for generations to come, but what most people might not be aware of is there is an equally sinister threat out there that is kind of under the radar.

I say ‘equally sinister’ because it too affects the DNA, and it affects the body’s ability to replicate healthy mitochondria. And it is something that even people like us, who are holistic, probably don’t take medications, unless it is a real emergency, like an accident or something like that, generally, we try to not be dependent on medications, that is why we are doing all these alternative things, right? There are times when we might be in that situation, for example, somebody has a car accident, all of a sudden they get whisked away to the hospital and they have to have surgery, they have to have anesthesia, they have to have pain medication, they have to have antibiotics. It can happen to anybody, even when you live a really clean holistic lifestyle and normally don’t take medications. And what I am referring to is antibiotics. I am going to come back to the water and why that is relevant, but a particular category or classification of antibiotics called Fluoroquinolones. And these are common antibiotics!

MARTIN: There are so many stories of people getting… let’s talk in plain language, this is the ‘famous one’ that is known as ‘getting floxed.’ I went to a doctor, and I had a perforated eardrum, but I wasn’t sure, so I said: “Please take a look,” and they said: “You have a perforated eardrum.” And I said: “What can we do about it?” And the doctor says: “Well, not much, but we should probably prescribe a bit of an antibiotic for it. I can hand you a sample of this Fluoroquinolone.” I said: “You want to treat me with that for a perforated eardrum that doesn’t even have an infection?” And the response was: “Oh yeah, of course.” I was just astounded how easy it is to get handed something that can have a fairly profound negative effect!

MONICA: Exactly, they just hand that stuff out, right?

MARTIN: I was shocked, truly shocked. Anyway, anybody who wants to get serious about knowing just how deep this rabbit hole can go, look up ‘floxed.’

MONICA: Exactly. And it is relevant to the water, and I am going to show you why, because some of us have already been floxed. I got floxed and didn’t realize it! I thought, oh, well, I don’t want to take antibiotics, but I know it is bad, so I will just take extra probiotics later, and replenish the gut bacteria, rebuild my microbiome. I thought that that was the extent of it. I didn’t realize what else it did until last year. They really just hand these antibiotics out, I don’t understand why, it does have the FDA strongest warning, which is the black box label! That is the FDA warning for quinolone antibiotics because they have potentially permanent side effects for tendons, muscles, joints, nerves, central nervous system, and possibly coma, horrible stuff, aortic dissection, aortic aneurysm, dangerous side effects!

MARTIN: You don’t need to scare people any deeper than what we have! I will share another story. I have a friend, dear friend, who went for a minor operation. It was going to be laparoscopic. He had some kind of bone growth on his shoulder, and it was interfering with the nerve, so they took care of it, but then he got infected, and all of a sudden had a flesh-eating staphylococcus inside his body, and they…

MONICA: …and you are saying I am scaring people?

MARTIN: It happened! So the next thing of course is the ‘nuclear warfare,’ they had to hit it with the hardest they had, so they used the Cipro on him, and then he lost the use of one of his eyes. So they tried heroically to try and fix it, trying to save the retina, lots and lots fiddling with the eye. But in the end, he still has half his vision. He can see the bottom half. Anyway, the point is that he said to the doctor: “Okay, so you saved my life, but in the process of saving my life, you actually caused me to lose my eye, right?” And the doctor says: “Yes, sir, that is what happened. You are alive because you didn’t die of the flesh-eating bacteria that we inadvertently introduced into your body when fiddling with your small little operation.” So the road to hell is paved with the best of intentions. Well, talk about how you can avoid this!

MONICA: Okay, the reason I brought that up. I think we scare everybody adequately about the fluoroquinolones, and they can find out more online, but they are actually chemo drugs. You know, it is actually kind of a big deal when people take chemo, it is not a small thing. And yet, when they take these antibiotics, they don’t realize they are taking chemo. And that is actually a fact. When they created these drugs back in the sixties and seventies, they didn’t know about mitochondria back then, that is their excuse. Here is why it is relevant, and here is the good news.

I stumbled upon this because I got floxed in 2013 when I had an emergency appendectomy, and I got floxed while I was in the hospital, and the doctor told me I was going to be in the hospital for 10 days because I had a burst appendix, it was pretty bad. So they gave me antibiotics, and they gave me the IV with the fluids, and I said: “No, I will take the antibiotics, but I don’t want the fluids.” And they said: “Well, you have to have the fluids, you don’t want to get dehydrated.” And I said: “I am not going to get dehydrated, I am the hydration queen.” My husband was bringing me the water from home, and I told them I am just going to drink my own water. And the nurse said, grudgingly: “Okay, but we have to make sure you drink enough.” I said: “Hey, not to worry, I will drink plenty.” So I drank my water. I am not recommending anybody do that, that was just my decision at that moment.

On day three, the doctor looked at me, and he was all puzzled and shaking his head, he couldn’t figure it out. I asked him what was going on because I thought something was wrong. He goes: “No, no, you are fine, you just keep doing what you are doing.” And I went home on day 4 instead of day 10. And not only that – three weeks later, one of my good friends that was a nurse said: “I have never seen anybody recover from a burst appendix as fast as you did.” Was it the water? I tend to think it was, and I didn’t have the side effects for quite a while. There could be other factors like genetic, you know, some people have more side effects than others, so that might be it. I can’t really say for sure. All I know is I had no clue that I got floxed, and I got out of the hospital in four days instead of ten, and I recovered really quickly from the burst appendix.

Fast forward to 2020, and my husband takes Cipro, and he has some side effects. Not as bad as what some people have had, but serious enough to where we were very concerned. That is why I started looking into all this, and I am like: “Why did he have such bad side effects?” He teaches a class that evening, he is a Kung-Fu master, and he teaches his class, and he wasn’t drinking much water! He was busy teaching class, so he wasn’t drinking enough water!

So, what is the big fuss about right now? What is everybody freaked out about? Everybody is freaked out about protecting our DNA from the Big Bad Jab right now! We want to protect our DNA from that. I don’t know, I have no idea, I didn’t make that claim, but at the very least it is going to help us with oxidative damage because it says so right here in this study. And at the very least, if somebody has been floxed, I would get busy drinking this water. People don’t believe me when I tell them how powerful this water is. And when I tell them my story, they don’t believe it. And I haven’t even told you the rest of it, but I will. I will tell you in a second. Some people start thinking: Well, I will just add baking soda in my water, and it will do the same thing. Or I will just get one of these little energizer gadgets, or one of these cheap devices. But it is not going to have the same effect.

This is the last study, I promise, on electrochemically reduced water, that is electrolyzed reduced water from a machine. I have a medical device in my kitchen. So let me read this study: “This water exerts superior reactive oxygen species scavenging activity in the cells than the equivalent level of just hydrogen dissolved water. See, there are studies saying: “Oh, it is the hydrogen in the water, it is the hydrogen in the water!” Well, yeah, that is one of the properties of water, water has several properties, but this study proves right there, slam dunk, that this water is superior in terms of its scavenging ability of reactive oxygen species, or free radicals. It is superior to mere hydrogen water. So there is something about this water that is different, and it is not just the hydrogen, and it is not just because it is alkaline, there is something else. I am going to dance around it, because I am not really supposed to say what it is.

But I’ll tell you this: When you take this water out of the machine, you can make tea with it without heating the water. You know how you put a teabag in a cup of hot water to make tea? If you just cold tap water in the cup, it is not going to make tea, but with this water, even at room temperature, you can make tea. You can have nice rich dark tea in just 30 seconds or a minute. That demonstrates that there is a quality to this water, having to do with the structure that goes beyond the hydrogen, goes beyond the antioxidant, goes beyond being alkaline. There is something about this water. What is it? I don’t know, but I know it works. At the time I got my machine, I was desperate. Can I tell my story now? (laughing) I was a mess. Okay. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t get a deep breath. I had heart palpitations, and I went to regular doctors, and they said: “Your heart is fine, you just have anxiety.” I went to acupuncturists, naturopaths, homeopaths, you name it… Nobody could really figure out what was wrong with me.

I sprained my ankle at age 38, and when I went to the urgent care and they did an x-ray, the doctor said: “Oh, you have already got some serious bone loss.” But then he goes: “You don’t need to worry about it until you are in your forties.” And it took me a minute, and then I went: “Hey, wait a minute, shouldn’t I be more worried if I have it early? I have bone loss in my thirties, shouldn’t I be more worried?” I mean, that just shows the mentality.

I was also told I’d lose all my teeth, and then for a couple of years I had really bad insomnia, I had acid reflux so bad I had to sleep sitting up, it was that bad. My ankles were swollen, I had these deep fissures in the heels that I could stick half my fingernail into, I had chronic pain, I had ulcers, I had bleeding gums, I had a sharp pain in one of my ovaries that I don’t know what it was, but it was probably something bad. And I was trying to deal with it naturally. I realized all my problems had a common denominator, and that was mineral deficiency.

And I thought that doesn’t make any sense, I drink these bright green juices, I take all these green superfoods, I do all these things, how can I be mineral deficient? So I started adding minerals, taking my magnesium, and all this stuff helped a little. Then I finally figured out it was the water I was drinking. I was drinking distilled water, which is very clean, but it is very acidic, and it is very ‘hungry,’ it just leaches out your minerals. I have been told 15 years prior that it was the cleanest, best water to drink, and I should be drinking that forever. And I have heard of that, you know, because I was doing some kind of detox, and I really can say it nearly killed me drinking that water, honest to God, it nearly killed me. So I got rid of the distiller, and that is when I got that cheap alkaline machine. Then I went through menopause and the thing with my dog happened, but it didn’t really help any of my problems. And that is when my hair turned gray, and then the machine broke and I bought this new one. I am not going to tell the brand, and I will explain why.

MARTIN: Here is what we are going to do: You are not going to tell me what it is, and we are going to post a link and a phone number, and anybody who is curious enough about this ‘magic’ is going to have to call you!

MONICA: Okay, yes! I got this machine because it was a medical-grade version of the one I had before. And that made all the difference. In two days my acid reflux was gone, within a week or two the ulcers were gone, and my feet got all smooth, and the heels of my feet to this day are smooth as silk, and I have never had a pedicure in my life, and I have never had a facial in my life. I have never done any of that stuff most women do. Now, did it solve everything? No, I didn’t. I have a little bit of weight still to lose, but it helped me with many issues. I got a little annoyed, because I heard a lot of other people that drank the water, and they lost weight. Well, I didn’t. But I am not complaining, because it saved my life. So what can I say? All I did was change my water. It was not like I was a soda drinker and I just started drinking water. I already was a water drinker. I already drank a lot of water, and I hadn’t had a soda in decades.

MARTIN: Well, let’s just make sure that people understand what they are getting into. So number one – they are going to have to call you and talk to you about this thing because we are not allowed to tell them exactly or send a direct link. Number two – they are going to learn about how to enhance their life by eliminating ROS, reactive oxygen species, by extinguishing them with electronic enriched water. And three – they are going to probably experience the rejuvenation effects that you have experienced because that is how it works. So I guess I better get one myself because I clearly have allowed my hair to go too gray and that is not acceptable.

MONICA: Am I saying it is going to fix everything, every problem every person has? No. It didn’t fix everything for me, but I can honestly say that virtually everybody I have known that really drank this water and drank enough of it had some kind of profound benefit of some sort. It might not have fixed everything, but at least just about every person notices something. And you know what’s really cool too? Check this out. Right now we are all concerned about sanitizing, right? Last year, at the height of everything, we were getting our groceries delivered, and I was glad I had this machine. You know why? This doesn’t just make the drinking water, it also makes strong, acidic disinfectant water. And if you look at this chart, the first column that I have circled shows the water from this machine, this test was done with this machine, strong electrolytes should use water pH 2.5. Now, that is not for drinking, that is used topically, that is a disinfectant, it kills all the bacteria, pathogens, everything. But the second one that is circled, pH 2.6, only killed some of the pathogens. If you look down the column, it only killed some of them.

There are other machines on the market that will say they do disinfect too, but they only kill half the bacteria, so that is not really an effective disinfectant, is it? If you are having surgery, you don’t want to just kill half the bacteria, that is not going to cut it. And then, lastly, it also makes this really cool, strong alkaline water that works as a degreaser, it is an emulsifier, and you can soak your fruits and vegetables, and it will literally pull off with gunk. I try to buy organic as much as possible, but even with organic, sometimes there is gunk, but the pesticides are oil-based because they don’t want them washing off in the rain. So this will actually pull that stuff off, and it is a great spot remover too.We do our laundry with it, so I don’t buy laundry detergent. So it has got a lot of other uses, you can save money, and have a more organic household. That is pretty cool. Here is the website – http://saveourdna.com/.

MARTIN: Is this the website where you can be found?

MONICA: Correct. It doesn’t have my name on it, I did it kind of anonymously, but it has a form at the bottom that you can fill out, your name, email address, and phone number, it only goes to me, I promise you are not going to get spammed, I am not going to give it to anybody else, but I will give you a call, and see if you have questions. That particular site does have some of the studies, sorry, I worked as a medical rep for several years, so I tend to be a little bit into studies. I am very holistic, and if something doesn’t have studies, that doesn’t necessarily mean it doesn’t work, but if it does have studies, I kind of pay more attention to it. You don’t have to read the whole thing, just the highlighted yellow parts, and you’ll get the idea, and then it has got the form at the bottom where you can put in your information so I can contact you.

MARTIN: Okay! Good people, you heard it here, there is such a thing as living water. It was written about in stories, where you were supposed to be able to wake people up from the dead. Well, this is not quite like that, but damn close.

MONICA: I got to interject real quick, you know, there are those sacred springs all over the world, where people line up, and they are supposedly healed or they improve some of their symptoms after drinking it. This has the same properties as that water. Regular tap water was the same, but they installed these faucets, put chemicals in it, and it is all piped, so I think they killed it. http://saveourdna.com/

MARTIN: You are right. Thank you, Monica, for being with us today. This is Martin Pytela for the Life Enthusiast Podcast. If you have questions, call me at (866) 543 3388. As always, we are restoring vitality to you and to the planet. Thank you!

MONICA: Thank you for having me, Martin. I appreciate it. Call me at 210 646 4821.

Note: this interview and the information provided is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult with your medical professional(s) if you are dealing with a specific medical issue.

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Podcast 421: Iridesca by Exsula Superfoods – Customer Testimonial

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MARTIN: Would you care to share something about your health before you found Life Enthusiast and started taking Iridesca?

JIM: Yes, I will be happy to do that. I got introduced to you in 1990 by my personal doctor, who is a nutrition specialist, and I was actually asking him about a different product. And he said: “Well, I can tell you that the best product on the market right now is Iridesca by Exsula.” So I ordered it, and I have taken it every morning since. I have been taking it for the last 30+ years. What I found is that it immediately gives me a better feeling about life. I feel stronger, I have more energy, I sleep better, my digestion is better.

In the beginning, it was really interesting because I only took Iridesca every winter. I’m in the Philadelphia area, and every winter it would get cold and I would get some sort of a bronchial problem that would actually lead to pneumonia. So I would go to the doctor, immediately get antibiotics, and sometimes I’d be out for a whole week. But after taking Iridesca, I don’t get sick anymore! I haven’t missed a day at work since that day I started taking it. And I don’t have that winter problem anymore. I attribute it all to this product.

This product is providing me with all of the nutrients that I don’t get in my regular food. As we all know, processed foods don’t give you what the original food was intended to give you, and a lot of our foods are grown with chemicals rather than organics, and that limits the nutritional value of each of these foods. For me, Iridesca by Exsula has made all the difference in the world.

MARTIN: You are not alone on this ground! I can’t not notice that you are looking younger than your chronological age would suggest. Would you mind sharing how old you are?

JIM: In 10 days I am going to be 72 years old.

MARTIN: And you are still working full time, right?

JIM: Yes, I am still working full time. I am the CEO of a school that I founded, Pennsylvania Leadership Charter School, and I put in quite a few hours each week, and sometimes I work on the weekends as well. I love what I’m doing, so I don’t find it stressful. The stress is just living life, our lives are full of stress. I’ve had lots of issues, things that have come into my life, family related issues, those kinds of things that create stresses in my life, but I find that I don’t have any problems sleeping, I don’t have any problems with digestion, I just don’t have any health problems in general that I am aware of. I see my doctor every three months with the extensive tests, and he has me on some products for pre-diabetes and cholesterol, things that usually come up with older age, but I really do believe strongly in the value and efficacy of the Iridesca. I would recommend it to anybody.

MARTIN: I remember some time ago, you told me that you wanted to be sure that we are not going to disappear on you, and let you be able to take it for many years to come. In fact, you did put money where your mouth was, and I still appreciate that.

JIM: I did! I actually thought about buying up maybe 30 years’ worth of a product (laughing), but I’m trusting you to hang in there!

MARTIN: We will do our best. It has been a pleasure and an honor serving you. And I really appreciate the fact that you are willing to step up and be heard.

JIM: Also, I have introduced others to this product, and those who take it regularly think it is a wonderful product. I know you have other products with similar values. I have given some to my daughter and she loves them, but I really do believe that the one product that we are talking about here, Iridesca by Exsula, is the best product that I know. You provide the best product that I’ve seen on the market today.

MARTIN: Thank you, Jim, and I agree. I think it’s actually a crowning achievement of our development.

JIM: You know I have called you from time to time, and I asked: “What more do you want me to get? You have a lot of products.” And I have actually suggested buying a couple that I have seen on your website, and your response was: “Well if you are using Iridesca on a regular basis, you don’t need the others.” So I have accepted that advice and just continued to use it. I think people find it remarkable that I just don’t get sick. I don’t get ill. I’ll get 24-hour flu, but I’ll get over it in 24 hours, and usually, I catch it on a Friday night, and so I never miss a day of work thanks to that.

MARTIN: Yes, that is the immune system working as it is supposed to work. It is not supposed to be gone in five minutes, it is supposed to be gone overnight. That is a sign of a strong immune system. Thank you very much, Jim, thank you for allowing us to share this with the world.

JIM: Thank you, Martin, it is my pleasure.

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Podcast 418: Nano Soma News and Product Updates

MARTIN: Hello, this is Martin Pytela for the Life Enthusiast podcast. And today I have the distinct pleasure and honor to be visiting with Richard Presser, the CEO of MagicDichol, which is the company that distributes Nano Soma, which is also known as Metadichol, at least that is the main ingredient. I personally have been using this product for about six months, and I have been enjoying both subtle and profound personal changes. So we will dive into that here today. Dr. Richard Presser, welcome!

RICHARD: Martin, thank you! Thank you for inviting me. And firstly, let me say thank you for how you have embraced Nano Soma and helped to get it out into the world. My vision for this product is that perhaps in the 10-year timeframe, when people truly understand this product, everybody in the world will use it. And I thank you for the efforts you’ve been making to share it with people on a very broad basis. It is very exciting.

MARTIN: You know, Richard, you may be very prophetic here because when you say that ‘everybody in the world will be using it,’ the dark vision that I could embrace is that only the remaining living will be here remaining because they are using it.

RICHARD: I think you understand my view on all of that. I think indeed it could be that dark, and you’ve touched on this, so I will open it up a little. Firstly, looking at Nano Soma, I am now satisfied that the little particle in this product brought the blueprint of biological life to our planet. And I have two key pieces of data to support that. The first is that this is a lipid, and you can’t have biology without lipids. The lipids create the envelope within which biology can exist, whether it is a virus, a cell, or us, our skin is made of lipids. They play this profound role, but they had to come before biology because without the lipids to form the envelope, there is no biology. So we certainly know it is older than biology.

Earlier this year we had a Zoom call and one of the participants was a woman called Lorraine Mill, who is a fellow Aussie. She describes herself as a ‘master intuitive.’ She started out as a medical intuitive and has gone way beyond that. So in fact, I took her words and edited it into a video, but she wasn’t willing to let me share it because you know, she wasn’t ‘dressed for the occasion.’ But I’ve now got a still photograph from her, I will put that out shortly, it is profound. She describes what this is doing in the body, including correcting the DNA, because she could witness it. But at the end, she quietly says: “This particle does not come from here,” and I am confident that is true. So on a broad basis, this little particle brought the blueprint of life here, and is now emerging in the middle of the fallout from these jabs or injections, they are not true vaccinations. And this, in my opinion, is a PSYOP of the first order. And it is a eugenics exercise. This is what you are referring to. People who simply get the jab will probably not be with us in five years, and more likely in only two or less. It is that dark.

MARTIN: Yes. Well, I wanted to put it in my own words in this way: The bi-lipid layer represents the sack within which the guts of every cell are contained. So without that sack, there is no separation of one cell from another. Even a single-cell organism requires this particular sack to contain itself, and then of course it is extended into every more complex organ. Each cell is a little entity that has a layer of lipid on top. Bruce Lipton, the most brilliant man who described how DNA in the nucleus is like the testicles or the gonads of the cell, whereas the cell membrane is actually like the brain because it is the membrane that allows input and output, stuff to get in or out of a cell. And there are these little gates called receptor sites, and these gates are either opening or not opening like a relay, and if that is not working correctly, nutrition doesn’t get in, toxins can’t get out, and the functioning of the organism is just inadequate. Hence when Raghu, the inventor of this, speaks of a receptor site regulation, he is onto something.

RICHARD: You are absolutely right. In my view, and in Raghu’s view, when Bruce Lipton finally connects with this product, he will be blown away because he will understand it exactly. So in truth, it is managing, from what I can tell, all of the receptor sites, it is like the key to the functioning of our bodies we didn’t know was missing until it showed up. In truth, it was there forever, whispering to our bodies, documented in the Rigveda in its more complete form in 5,600 BC or wherever it was, and it effectively got removed along with all policosanol from our food when we started refining it. In my opinion, it is no accident that it is emerging as these jabs are being implemented in the world. To be honest, I thought it was about stopping the virus, that is how naive I am. The higher plan was never to do that. It was to deal with this jab.

You see, once they get enough people jabbed, they think they’ve won because those that they don’t kill off will have their DNA modified to suit the purposes of those who are driving all of this. But they haven’t understood that they are inside a bigger plan of the light, and all they are doing was actually anticipated before life began on this planet. It is why this particle does what it does. So anyone that uses this product will have all of this interference cleared, and will have all of the receptor sites, as you describe, managed, and protected. It is a key, it has a key role in the functioning of our bodies that disappeared, you might say by accident, but there are no accidents in anything in my opinion. And it is emerging now as this ‘scamdemic’ has been dealt with supposedly by these jabs.

MARTIN: You would almost think that the timing of the releases is somehow orchestrated from a higher level, right? Here is an interesting thing: I always try to come up with a metaphor, I am thinking that the Nano Soma is acting as if it were a conductor of an orchestra.

RICHARD: Absolutely. This particle is conscious and intelligent, of that, I have no doubt. I have a very dear, deeply spiritual, deeply skilled energy healer friend in North Carolina, who actually is the VP of MagicDichol in the U.S., she is a silent player. I would describe her as a multi-dimensional being. She now talks to the consciousness of metadichol, which is the development name of the product. Nano Soma and Metadichol are the same things, just different names, one is a marketing name, one is a development name. Becky talks to metadichol, and she tells me: “You really should talk to it.” She knows I can’t do these things. There is a plan here that is older than life on this planet, and this little particle has a key role to play in it. I’ve said it before, I am just humbled that it has come to me to help to spread it in the world. On a level, I understand why, but nevertheless, I see it as a profound responsibility, a very humbling responsibility, and an opportunity to do what I can do to spread it.

MARTIN: Your words echo in my mind with the word ‘anthroposophy,’ Rudolf Steiner and his speculations. He talks about Lucifer and Ahriman, and the energies that set up these concepts, and where we are headed with this.

RICHARD: Yes. I mean, he was a profound man who contributed enormous things. He brought an enormous contribution, and I think his understanding on a level was very, very accurate. I don’t get too caught in the persona, let’s put it that way, of the representatives because, you know, my own personal work and journey have taken me way, way beyond that, in some ways outside of this temporal world. My work really goes beyond those identities. I look at that with interest, but not with great engagement. Steiner made an enormous contribution on many levels, and the world should be very grateful for that man, he has been somewhat demonized and sidelined of course, but his contribution has been very special.

MARTIN: Well, that is the philosophical end of things. On the practical side of things I am truly excited to see that we are hopefully at the end of the first cycle of the existence of this business, where we have gone through two crises already, first was the crisis of delivery, then the crisis of quality of the sprayers. But I think this is mainly behind us, right?

RICHARD: Well, I hope so. I can’t guarantee any of it, and I apologize to all of you that have suffered along with our trials and tribulations. This is a pretty new business. I opened the store for the U.S. business in November 2020, and I bottled I think 350 liters of product. I am now bottling it by 2000 liters at a time, I am shipping out tons of liquid at a time, and it is just going to keep growing. We have had lots of growing pains, we have screwed some things up, and again, I apologize to everybody that has been impacted. The supply issue I thought we’d got on top of, but the growth of demand got ahead of me. I think we have got a handle on it now, but I make no promises because, in terms of the total U.S. and Canadian population, our volume is still very small. So as it spreads, one person will tell ten other people, those ten people will tell ten people each, so you only have to do that a couple of times, we don’t need any marketing.

MARTIN: Right, the product does sell itself! We should address this. I have some people who call me on day three (of use) and say: “I am astounded, I have more energy, I am more stable, I sleep better. In fact, I wake up bursting into song,” and then I have another person who says: “I am now on my second or third bottle, and I cannot say that I am feeling any different.” Or I have a guy who writes to me saying: “Well, I used one bottle and it didn’t change my diabetes symptoms, so I gave the rest of it to my wife.” I wrote: “Well, you know, it took three bottles for me before it fired up.” I just happened to have used up three bottles inside of four weeks (doing the fast start).

RICHARD: All of those happen and more. Probably the worst review we got was: “Oh, it tastes like vomit. I don’t want to go near it.” The thing I say to people is there is a journey with this product. When people truly understand it, they will not look at it through the lens of allopathic medicine, looking for a point solution. “I have these symptoms that I know about, and I want to fix them within two days.” You know, that may or may not happen. I mean, I have seen people who’ve got extreme blood pressure, and they can see it normalized in hours. There is an example we had of a woman who had extreme blood sugar levels since about the age of six, and she was in her fifties. I think she may have lost a leg along the way. I am no medical person on any level, let this be clear, but the numbers she talked about were blood sugars of I think 530 or something, which meant nothing to me, but Ragu said: “Oh my God, that is coma territory.”

MARTIN: Yes, that is terminal!

RICHARD: Yes. So she sprayed five sprays in her mouth in the evening, went to bed, got up in the morning, and her blood sugar was 90. She has never seen it at 90 in her life. But if someone has got just a little bit of elevated blood sugar, it could take three months to regulate. This particle is conscious and intelligent, and when you put Nano Soma in your body, the body and Nano Soma conduct triage and find out what is a life-threatening issue, and it will work on that first. You may not even know about it. Elevated blood sugar might not be your most urgent issue, you might be within a week of having a heart attack. We know about heart issues, we don’t have much awareness of it until it manifests in a pretty serious way unless we had some tests done. So you might not know what is going on. But the body does know, especially in the presence of this ‘Godfather particle,’ as Raghu describes it. He says: “This comes into the body, and it says to the cell: ‘Hey, listen, I taught you 2 million or billion years ago how you should be working, you are not doing it, get on with it.'”

So people may have issues that are life-threatening they may be aware of, or they may not, and you don’t know what the priorities are. And if you do have pretty good nutrition, there is a good chance that the energy transfer into your cell is working relatively well, so you may not experience much. But when the mitochondria in your cells are not working very well, it is one of the first things that gets fixed, which supplies energy and nutrition into the cells. And this is why many people say: “Oh my God, almost the moment I started to use it, I had this incredible boost of energy.” It is because when mitochondria are repaired, the transport of energy and nutrition into the cells is fixed. Some people don’t experience much. You can have people who say: “I am not seeing anything, so I gave it to my wife,” because they haven’t understood what they are playing with. They haven’t understood what this is doing.

With time, that lack of awareness will go away. When people truly understand this product, when they use this product, illness and disease and aging will not be part of the human experience anymore. Not because Nano Soma is fixing anything, it doesn’t cure or treat anything, it is simply triggering the body to operate at its optimum in a way that we never understood was possible until this showed up. It is like the key to the functioning of our body, as I said, that has gone missing. Some people experience one thing, some people experience another, some people can experience weird flavor reactions, for some it will be bitter, or coconutty, or soapy, the last one I mentioned was vomit, which is not common, but it can happen. People don’t understand that it is about their bodies. Because when you use it for a while, a couple of weeks or a couple of months, depending on what is happening with your body, it tastes like water, energized water. This lady sent me an email saying: “I started using this, it has no taste for me.” I said: “Well, that is a good sign, you’ve got some fundamental balance in place.”

MARTIN: Okay. Please understand that the product may take a while to manifest, and just because you are not having a dramatic shift in your symptoms doesn’t mean that it is not doing anything. It just means that you haven’t taken enough yet. What a perfect marketing ploy, right?

RICHARD: Raghu has gone through this a lot, he has been working with this for over 10 years, and he had people who said these sorts of things, and he sent them off to get a blood test done, and then compare some before and after. Lo and behold, their blood markers have normalized. It is only one of many tests you can do, but it is a good indicator that the body and all the systems are being normalized by this. We have been taught to treat symptoms or markers as single points of illness when really they are just a reflection of the underlying malfunction of our bodies. When you take that broader view, understand it, and use it for a bunch of years, you will probably stabilize with a biological age of about 35 for as long as you want to stay on the planet.

MARTIN: That is not such a bad deal!

RICHARD: And that works for me, I’ll tell you! Raghu is now 70, he has been using it for probably 11 years. Two years ago, his measured biological age was 51. It is now 48, so his biological clock is running backward! It is not just Raghu that this will happen to. It will happen to all of us! Everyone who is going to take this. This is to be expected, in a way it was the promise of life on this planet. We just didn’t know how it would come, it was all part of a much bigger plan. And here we are living out the crescendo, the climax of the game of the dark on this planet. They thought they could come here and dominate humanity and in doing so survive in creation. Well, guess what? They fell into a trap that was even smarter than them. So I am actually a total optimist about the outcomes. I don’t know what the journey will be like to get there, but you should expect that many of those people that are not aware probably won’t be with us in a few short years.

MARTIN: Speaking of not being with us, if or when Raghu gives up his physical body, is the business going to carry on?

RICHARD: Well, his plan is to live at least to 180-200, so I am not overly worried about it right now unless he falls under a bus, but I don’t expect that either.

MARTIN: I am just curious if there is some kind of succession planning in place.

RICHARD: I don’t know, I never asked him, I haven’t worried about it because I don’t look at life on that level. When you understand that we have all chosen our life journey and life path before we incarnate, all these people that are going to leave the planet courtesy of these jabs chose it before they came. And so when you look at it like that, you don’t operate quite in the same fear-based reaction that says: “But what about if something happens to Raghu?” Because I know he is not going anywhere, I know it was this man’s mission to bring this to the planet, I know where he is walking.

MARTIN: Okay, that is a lovely faith-based statement, which may well be true.

RICHARD: You could call it faith. It is not the word that I would use.

MARTIN: Okay, inner knowing maybe.

RICHARD: That is better.

MARTIN: Well, let’s run with that. Let’s hope that you are prophetic. There is this wonderful new development happening by the time this is on air. I am hoping that the Metasomer product, the gel version of Nano Soma, is going to be out. What can you say about that?

RICHARD: Well, simply put, if you think about Nana Soma and you understand it fully, you realize that its action on the skin is very powerful. We have seen people with psoriasis over 80% of their body get cleared. We have seen people with all manner of skin afflictions healed. But spraying water on the skin is not really the best way of getting this stuff on your skin, it runs everywhere, it is messy, so we made a topical version of Nano Soma in a gel form. The only additional ingredient is edible xanthan gum. So we have a gel that you can apply to the skin, that has the same efficacy as the spray, but is much more convenient for that kind of application. And we will only be announcing it as a topical product, but there are other things you might do with it.

MARTIN: Is this more concentrated or less concentrated?

RICHARD: Same concentration, in fact, same efficacy. Let’s talk about concentration for a moment. People get caught in this. When Raghu started making this product he started with a 40 mg product. 40 milligram per milliliter of volume. The first product that was released was 10 mg per ml, the next version was 5 mg per ml, and we are now using 2.5 mg per ml. I expect it will be 1 mg per ml in a year or two. If you understand that in large measure, this is working at a homeopathic level. All of this makes some sense. If you think about that, five sprays in your mouth represent about 50,000 times the number of particles as we have cells in our bodies. A huge number of particles compared to the number of cells. I am not saying you only need one particle per cell, I don’t think you do, you might need 20 or something, but not 10,000.

MARTIN: I was getting more effect by taking 20 sprays in a day rather than five.

RICHARD: Well, there are two different issues. There is the frequency of use and concentration. The concentration doesn’t change things much, but the frequency of use does. Particularly if you are going through the healing process, dealing with things that are effectively using up the product in a way. This is why if someone was dealing with the virus, five sprays every four hours is a good thing to do. If people have been jabbed, it is good to use it every four hours for at least three days, just to be sure. Frequent usage is not the same thing as concentration. They might sound like they are overlapping, and maybe they are slightly, but in essence, if you are taking 30 sprays at a time versus five sprays six times a day, there will be a different outcome.

MARTIN: We should start a poll! People, those of you who are willing to experiment, if you are not lazy like me who takes five sprays in the morning and gets on with his day, if you are willing, I would like you to try and compare and be in touch and let us know what you find.

RICHARD: It is very interesting. I’ve had some kinesiologist who said to me: “All I need is one spray a day.” Well, that is okay, that may be true for him. There is a man, who is also a wonderful kinesiologist, his testimonial is the first in my list of documented testimonials, a guy called Howard Wallen, who lives in Chicago, an 80-year-old, wonderful man. There have been times on his journey where he used a bottle in a day. Was he wrong? I am not saying he was wrong, I am saying we don’t fully understand all that is going on here. But certainly, all the experimentation that Raghu has done says that when you are effectively in a stable health situation or you are working with longer-term healing and health issues, five sprays once a day is enough.

RICHARD: When you are getting started, five sprays, four times a day until you use up a bottle, five sprays twice a day till you use up the second bottle. Again, this has come out of the testing that Raghu has done over a period of time. If some people feel drawn to use less, that is okay. One thing I will say is that some experiments have been done in Switzerland using different dosage amounts across a whole range, and within a few hours that all normalized. This stuff recycles itself in the body, so it goes in as alcohol would. It gets oxidized and the body recycles it back, so it goes through this natural cycle, as many things do in the body in a state of homeostasis. That is why vitamin C gets produced in the body when this is present, because it is effectively part of the homeostasis process of the cells, to take oxidized vitamin C and convert it back. But without this product, it doesn’t happen.

MARTIN: So speaking of ingredients, this new Metasomer is applied topically. Should I expect that the most useful way would be to put it on over my face to deal with signs of aging maybe?

RICHARD: You can! Down the track, the cream will be a better option for that, but you can put the gel all over your face. If you have a cut, for example, you can use it, it heals up incredibly quickly, within a day you would see the healing that you would normally see in a week or two. This stuff is triggering the production of stem cells in the wound. It heals incredibly quickly. It works on burns, psoriasis, eczema, acne, all these things get transformed by the use of this product. The gel is the more practical version for topical use. Some people have told me this is the best hemorrhoid cream they’ve ever tried!

MARTIN: You also mentioned lotion or cream, right?

RICHARD: The cream is really a facial cream, it is a really high-quality cream that is currently in development. In the U.S. it is dragging its feet, I just had a conversation with a lawyer who needs to document these things in a formal way and give people access to it.

MARTIN: So this has to be tested on humans because we just don’t like to waste it on rats.

RICHARD: (laughing) We don’t have to do any of that. Any of that kind of work was done 10 years ago. In a way, these products are old products, but we need human rats to test them on. People like you and me will be good rats for it. I will tell you I have yet to share this with a woman who is not in the cosmetics industry who doesn’t love it. I have had three women so far who didn’t like the cream, and they are all in the cosmetics industry.

MARTIN: We are in a terrible situation here because just having said this is going to create a huge problem for me because I will be having to answer the calls of: “When are you getting the lotion?”

RICHARD: The gel will be in the store next week I expect.

MARTIN: We are speaking in September of 2021 for context.

RICHARD: We are indeed, so in mid-September 2021, we will have a good stock. We have only bottled a quarter of a ton so far, but we have enough of it.

MARTIN: How do we justify the premium price of it?

RICHARD: Well, it is a different product, to begin with, it is more expensive to make, as I mentioned, the packaging is different because the application is different, you can’t really use the spray bottle for a gel formula. So it has a different positioning in the market.

MARTIN: So to position it straight out, this is something you want to have on your bathroom shelf, but you won’t necessarily need to use it every day.

RICHARD: Correct. You know, you can use it every day, if you wish, but you don’t need to. I tend to use it if I have some issue going on my skin. One of the things that people have discovered is that the products, in general, are very good for pain relief. The base practice, in my opinion, is five sprays once a day in your mouth of the spray as an underpinning for everything else you do, plus the gel added to that. So if someone is dealing with acne or eczema or psoriasis, then clearly you will use it quite a lot. But in general, I don’t see it as being something that people will use every day unless they have a need to.

MARTIN: Alright, and for the lotion, please don’t call me before the beginning of 2022.

RICHARD: That is a good line in the sand. If we do better than that, treat it as a bonus.

MARTIN: Right, we will let you know if we have managed to get ahead of the deadline.

RICHARD: So that really is the gel, it is taking the spray and turning it into a topical, easy to apply gel. It is a water-based product just like Nano Soma is, there is no oil in it, it gets absorbed into the skin very quickly and easily. You rub it on and it is gone.

MARTIN: That sounds great, I have a few ideas on how to test it, so we will put it to a test. I will try and do a few visuals.

RICHARD: Very good. I look forward to that. We have quite a lot of feedback because Raghu has been using it and testing it. In his large body of testimonials there are 60 pages of testimonials for both Nano Soma in liquid and in the gel form.

MARTIN: Well, I look forward to hearing from our listeners and followers with their stories. We already have a good number of them, you can find them on the product page. And of course, we have been sending out by email the commonly shared list of testimonials that you are referring to. That is usually sent by our newsletter because we don’t put them on our website. I think the stories that we could tell would probably not withstand the scrutiny of the regulators.

RICHARD: Well, I think when people are simply sharing their testimonials, that is fine. Just from a business perspective, one of the problems that the multi-level marketing people got into with testimonials is the people that were sharing them were being effectively paid to tell good stories. That is where they got into a problem. Legally we don’t have those issues because people are buying the product and using it for their own benefit and sharing their stories. You are allowed to do that. That is not a problem.

MARTIN: All right. Let’s hope that that statement holds.

RICHARD: There are lots and lots of testimonials on Amazon, I won’t use Amazon for many reasons, but there are lots of product testimonials up there. There is a bit of fear in the nutritional supplement industry about it because of the MLM experience.

MARTIN: The biggest challenge that I have is that under the FDA rules, we are allowed to make a structure or a function claim, but not a medical claim. So I could say something like: “This supports healthy heart function or healthy metabolic function,” because it is a statement of fact, but I couldn’t say: “It lowers blood pressure,” because that is a medical condition.

RICHARD: Yeah, I understand. I am very careful to claim nothing. And we don’t need to, because people share their experiences. Humanity deserves this product, and humanity is waking up to this product. We are just opening a few doors, and the right people grab it and run, like you have. So we don’t need to make claims. If anything, I am actually reducing the things that I put on the packaging, an example of this is the term ‘nutraceutical,’ which is a very kosher word in the U.S., it has been tested legally and defended for natural supplements, but it is a no-no word in the UK and Europe, which I found out the hard way. I couldn’t open a bank account in the UK! And then I did some homework, and I am taking the word ‘nutraceutical’ off the label everywhere so that it doesn’t trigger these reactions. Again, the word has a different meaning in different countries. But it is not going to affect the rollout of the product in any way.

MARTIN: Speaking of international, as of our conversation right now, your European store in Germany is up and running, right?

RICHARD: Yes, yes it is.

MARTIN: Fantastic. Your Australian store open?

RICHARD: It is open. The Australian store was actually the first one that I opened. I had it closed once or twice along the way, but it is open.

MARTIN: Wonderful. And so the UK store is coming soon also, right?

RICHARD: It is weeks away. The constraint is bottles. Things seem to take forever to make happen in the UK. I was organizing the people that are bottling the product, we are organizing all the packaging, but until I get the bottles, I can’t do anything.

MARTIN: Are you not able to ship the German product to the UK?

RICHARD: I don’t want to do that for a number of reasons. You have different regulations in every little space around these kinds of products. What you put on a label in Europe is different for the UK, I don’t want to get muddied up with any of those kinds of issues. I don’t want to be importing a bottled product into the UK. My model is to buy the bulk out of Switzerland and ship it to the market and bottle it in the UK. In South Africa, I am working with some people who will put it in a bottle themselves, and I will just supply them with the bulk product. I am also talking to someone in Singapore who will spread it across large parts of Southeast Asia. She is a powerhouse who understands this space.

MARTIN: I have been getting calls and orders from all over the world, and I keep telling them: “wait, wait, wait,” so there will be links in the show notes where you can go to order directly. I don’t necessarily want to be shipping orders from our US warehouse to wherever you are in the world, because it is really an experience.

RICHARD: Yes it is. If the vision is that this is in the hands of everybody in the world in 10 years, I just don’t know if we are going to become like Coca-Cola bottles around the world in a sense, I don’t know how that is going to happen or how it will be. One of the big issues on a broader scale is you really need to be able to produce the product in all those places, which means an integrated plant, and we need water, we need pristine water. If the plan is for this to be available across the world, then the water will be there, we just have to find it. I don’t know what it looks like yet.

MARTIN: Awesome. Have we forgotten something?

RICHARD: Not that I can think of.

MARTIN: Alright. Okay, dear listeners, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast and Dr. Richard Presser for MagicDichol. You can find us on www.life-enthusiast.com, and we are restoring vitality to you and to the planet. That has been our motto since our opening 25 years ago. Thank you for being with us!

RICHARD: Thank you, Martin!

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Jorge Ureña, founder of the company UHTCO, producer and manufacturer of the highest quality maca on the market, is with us today once again to tell us more about UHTCO products, including Camu Camu and 7Root!

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Podcast 417: All about Camu Camu and 7Roots with Jorge Urena

(This is Part 2 of a series, click here for Part 1)

JORGE: So let’s talk about the products now! I don’t know exactly which products you have in your store, so I am going to show them all briefly…

MARTIN: I would very much like to carry the whole line, but at this moment we have the Maca, of course, we have the purple, the black, and the mixed. We also have Camu Camu, and we also have 7Roots.

JORGE: Okay! So 7Roots is actually a very old ancient drink prepared by this tribe in Peru. It is commonly known as the ‘panty breaker.’

MARTIN: The panty breaker? Does it have some kind of sexual undertone?

JORGE: Yes, exactly! It is well-known in this area, in the Amazon. Even if you just Google the term ‘the panty breaker,’ you will find it. It is a combination of seven different plant roots, but these are roots that don’t grow underground, these are aerial roots. Some trees and plants have all these roots in the air.

MARTIN: So these seven roots come from the Amazonian tropical side of Peru, not from the high altitude, right?

JORGE: That is correct. I will just read you a little bit of every single ingredient. Chuchuhuasi is one of them. And don’t be afraid of the names! Because many people know Ayahuasca, for example, right? Ayahuasca is another plant, and people use it to do ceremonies and they usually say that the Ayahuasca will get you into the ‘other world,’ and so on.

MARTIN: I know, the DMT, Dimethyltryptamine, has a powerful, powerful effect on brain chemistry!

JORGE: Correct! We don’t know exactly what it does, honestly, but it has been used for many years by ancient tribes. And this is more or less the same idea. What we do is we just put the actual ingredients in a hydroalcoholic base…

MARTIN: …so you do double extraction? Do you do water extraction and alcohol extraction?

JORGE: ‘Hydroalcoholic’ means we are mixing water and alcohol in such a way to achieve a balanced pH on the product, so we can extract all the biochemical components out of it, and then we press, we extract, and we get just the liquid. Then we do a mixing. On the label, there is a little bit of the history of the seven roots for you to read. So again, going back to the ingredients, we have the Chuchuhuasi, which is used by indigenous Peruvians to this day, that is a remedy for arthritis, back pain, bronchitis, and so on. The next one is called Iporuru. It is difficult to pronounce, but…

MARTIN: …that doesn’t even sound Spanish!

JORGE: It is a tribal name, it is their dialect. Then we have Huanarpo Macho, translated to English that means ‘male.’ We also have Clavo huasca, it is just like a clove, this is the same plant, but from the Amazon area, this is a wild version. Clavo huasca is very specific, it is an aphrodisiac, but only for women. 7Roots is actually made in such a way that it satisfies the needs of both men and women. And that is very important, because it all depends on the proportion of the ingredients within the mix, in order to achieve the right benefits. When you take the product, you will feel really good. There is another ingredient that I didn’t mention called Para para, and Para para means ‘up, up.’ Most of the plants in Peru were named by the Aboriginal people because of their benefits. For example, we have Chanca Piedra, the ‘stone crusher,” and the actual benefit is to dissolve kidney stones or gallstones!

MARTIN: But this Chanca Piedra is not in the 7Roots blend, right?

JORGE: No, not in our formula, but there are different recipes, different ways of doing the seven roots. We took the one that we thought was more authentic, we replicated the way of doing it, but we applied a little bit of our concept because we wanted this product to be enjoyable for men and women, not just men. That was our main motivation, to get a product that was enjoyable for everyone.

MARTIN: So tell me, how does this work? I just take one ounce, and then in one hour I am more interested in action?

JORGE: Okay, so this is one thing that everybody needs to understand. We cannot compare these products with any medication that is out there for this purpose. The 7Roots work with microcirculation. All these herbs are structured in such a way that will improve microcirculation. For example, if you take 7Roots, one thing that you will notice very quickly is improved vision. You will see everything brighter, nicer in detail. That means your circulatory system is working properly. It is not going to work the same way other medications do, but it works over time. You can take a teaspoon a day, and you will get effects for the whole day. All right. That is how an aphrodisiac works. I would like to point out something because we intended this product to work on the physical aspect mainly, but then we thought: “okay, what about the other aspect, the attraction, setting up the mood for sex, to improve your sex drive?”

That is also how we created another product, which is our Maca Pro SX. I can tell you something about this product, I don’t know if you had it before or not, but this one here is infused maca. We infused the maca roots, we soaked them in the 7Roots mixture. We are capturing all the elements from an aphrodisiac, which actually works on the physical aspect, we mix it up together with a product that provides hormonal balance and sets you up in the right mood, and gives you energy. So in other words, that combination makes the perfect product for sex drive for both men and women!

MARTIN: We don’t have this product in our shop at the moment, but if people are interested, I would like to invite them to just get a hold of me and ask to bring this one as well!

JORGE: I want to show you, I have a couple of these ingredients here, so I can show you and your customers how they look. (showing roots on the screen) So this one is the Iporuru.

MARTIN: It looks like a tree that has been chopped up…

JORGE: Exactly! This one here, which is a kind of reddish, those are also pieces of a root, but as I mentioned, these are aerial roots, they do not grow underground.

MARTIN: And this cinnamon-colored wood, that is the Chanca Piedra?

JORGE: No, the Chanca Piedra is used as leaves only. But they really work miracles for kidney stones and gallstones.

MARTIN: If somebody from our audience is interested in getting that, we could supply that!

JORGE: Yes, this is the actual product. It is in capsule form and that is probably the best way to take it. If you are having a kidney stone and a very bad pain that comes with it, you take two capsules every six hours, within a day you will just get rid of the stone, it dissolves. My recommendation for everyone is just to get the product at least once every six months as maintenance to prevent getting a kidney stone. Again, the name of the plant is called Chanca Piedra, which translates as the ‘stone crusher,’ so basically that is a direct association to the benefit of the product.

MARTIN: Okay! What about this other product that you have in front of you, the one with the pale green label?

JORGE: Oh, this is called Graviola.

MARTIN: I am familiar with Graviola! It is also known as soursop, right?

JORGE: That is correct! It is usually taken as an anti-parasitic. But there is a whole theory behind it! Probably that will take a lot of time to explain, so we will skip it until the next time. You also wanted to know about the Camu Camu!

MARTIN: Correct! Please talk about that! I see this beautiful poster behind you with Camu Camu on it…

JORGE: I don’t know if you can see it clearly from there, but this is the actual fruit, Camu Camu is a fruit that grows in the Amazon in Peru.

MARTIN: Are they the size of an apple or are they smaller?

JORGE: Camu Camu fruit is probably the size of a cherry, more or less. Camu Camu is kind of a fun name, right? You repeat that word twice, and there is a reason for that. ‘Camu’ basically means ‘lots of water.’ And when you repeat the word twice, it becomes ‘flooding.’ Why is that? Because the Camu Camu grows in the Amazon river, it grows in the actual river. There is a synergy there with the water. This fruit is really high in vitamin C. That is about 50 times more than an orange! But that is fresh Camu Camu fruit, and we don’t sell it fresh, we do special processing to get the best out of the fruit, so we get a concentrated vitamin C product. After our process, we turn 30 kg of fresh fruit into 1 kg of the finished product, so the ratio is 30:1, this is the highest ratio in the market.

Some other manufacturers sell a product that is mixed with ascorbic acid. The reason they do that is they apply high heat to dry the fruit, but when they do that, the vitamin C goes away. We are the only ones in Peru manufacturing products with a cold process, so we keep all the vitamin C. This process was invented precisely for the products we have, for Camu Camu, and also for our Maca powder. I don’t know if you remember, but our Maca powder 6:1 is called the ‘raw gelatinized maca powder.’ 6:1 is the ratio of concentration. And the word ‘gelatinized’ means that we achieve the gelatinization process with a cold way of doing it, not using heat.

MARTIN: Is this actually harvested in the wild, or is it cultivated?

JORGE: It is harvested in the wild. There are also some people cultivating the product, but these are not going to be flooded with the river. So what can I tell you about Camu Camu? It is highly concentrated. Just to give you an idea: one teaspoon of our Camu Camu powder will get you approximately 1200% of the recommended daily dosage of vitamin C.

MARTIN: Awesome! And you have it available both in powder and in capsules, right?

JORGE: Correct. Some people find it convenient just to take a capsule, some people find it convenient to put some powder in their smoothie or juice, or just mix it with water. What else is in Camu Camu? It is not just Vitamin C! We have bioflavonoids, flavonols, flavanols… On average, every person will have between 10 to 15 mg of vitamin C per liter of blood. When you eat a potato, rice, or broccoli, your body synthesizes the vitamin C and that is what’s going into your bloodstream to boost your immune system. We did a study in Belgium, comparing our product with ascorbic acid, which is another source of vitamin C.

When a person took a vitamin C supplement that is just ascorbic acid, the level of vitamin C goes up to 15-17 milligrams per liter, and the duration was less than an hour. With our Camu Camu, the level went up to 26-30 milligrams per liter, so substantially higher, basically double, and the duration was two hours. If you take the right form of vitamin C, your immune system will be boosted, you will be protected. Our product has an ORAC of 63,000 per gram. ORAC means oxidative radical absorption capacity. The synthetic ascorbic acid has no ORAC. There is no protective capability on the ascorbic acid by itself. During these tests, we were testing on every particular free radical, to see where our Camu Camu product was working. We discovered that our product had a big incident in the superoxide anion, which is a free radical that damages the body.

MARTIN: Wow, superoxide is one of the most damaging chemicals in the human body!

JORGE: It is a scavenger! It actually damaged the body, allowing viruses to go in. If we put it in a different way, I can claim that our Camu Camu is an antiviral, and it is 100% percent natural, and we have proof of that, meaning we have testing that shows you how good this product is. It has never been spiked with ascorbic acid, and we have major problems in Europe. Martin, we had a company selling Camu Camu in Germany, they are offering a Camu Camu product in a capsule form, and they claim it has 25% vitamin C.

Now, our Camu Camu vitamin C level is 18-21%. So 25% is really good, that is a super high level of vitamin C being offered on a product. But they were selling the product at a fraction of the price that we were selling our product. So we were concerned! I asked my representative to buy the product, and we sent it to the lab. They did an identity test on the product to identify the actual aspects. And guess what conclusion they came to – there was no Camu Camu in the product! That was the reason why it was so cheap! At the same time, they were fooling the consumer! Obviously, what we did is we sent the proof to the German minister of health, and the product was taken off the market.

Obviously, you will find many, many companies trying to do that worldwide. We have found two more companies doing the same thing in the US and in France. Basically, no product can compare to what we have. I am going to tell you about my experience. I’ve been using just a lot of Camu Camu myself to protect me from this virus that is currently out there. I think if you work on your immune system properly, not just with Camu Camu, but with many other products, like ginger, turmeric, even maca, they all have very many antiviral properties, you are going to protect your body for sure from all kinds of viruses.

MARTIN: So what I hear you telling me is that the Camu Camu with these bioflavonoids, not just by virtue of the vitamin C, with all the other ingredients, is strongly immuno-protective and anti-aging.

JORGE: Yes! It works as a collagen generator, so it is very good for the skin and connective tissue. In Japan, they use Camu Camu in skin care products!

MARTIN: Cool! We have it in our store, we have it in powder form, and in capsules. What would be the daily dose?

JORGE: My recommendation is just a couple of capsules per day, even three. I would do probably three capsules per day, that is what I take normally, or half a teaspoon of the powder. There are also many studies dedicated to Camu Camu and depression. It actually makes you feel good. These are independent third-party studies, real clinical studies with people and placebo, and all that stuff. I can tell you a story quickly, I was in Edmonton once, and I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Edmonton…

MARTIN: Yeah, in winter, it is a terrible place, it is very sad, right?

JORGE: Yeah! So we have a store down there, selling our line of products, but Camu Camu is actually our best-seller here! And we didn’t know why! So when I was there and visited the store, we found out that many people were actually buying the Camu Camu to give it for free to their staff and employees! So companies were buying the product to supply a little bit of happiness to the people! Edmonton is very sad, it is very cloudy, gray, very little sun, so people were taking Camu Camu to improve their mood!

MARTIN: That is awesome! The corporate program, bottled happiness! Treat your employees well! That is excellent. So, your company, UHTCO, you have been in business for a long time, right?

JORGE: We started a business here in Canada back in 2003, so I would say 18 years in the business. We started with the raw gelatinized maca powder 6:1, and at that time we introduced the liquid maca, the Gold 10:1, and that became very popular. At that time there were only 3 brands selling maca, and then we had other brands jumping in. But when we came up with the liquid maca, it just blew people’s minds because it was so effective with just one teaspoon. We are now selling our products in 30 countries worldwide, we sell raw materials for many companies, we are behind the scenes of some big names as well, they use our raw materials to do their formulations. We also have our own brand, and people recognize us for the quality and good shelf life of the products.

MARTIN: Great! Jorge, thank you, I think that covers everything we wanted to talk about today! Thank you very much for spending the time with our audience!

JORGE: No problem, I really appreciate it! Thank you for having me, Martin!

MARTIN: You can find all the products we mentioned on our website, www.life-enthusiast.com, direct links are attached to this video as always! This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast, restoring vitality to you and the planet! Thank you for listening!

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Maca root (Lepidium Meyenii) grows high in the Andes of Peru, as high as 11,000 feet above sea level. It is one of the oldest and most resilient plants on the planet. It grows in places where no other plants survive, because of extreme climatic conditions in high altitudes. For centuries, Maca was a regular part of the Peruvian diet, believed to bring strength, resilience, stamina, and immunity.

Jorge Ureña, founder of the company UHTCO, producer and manufacturer of the highest quality maca on the market, is with us today once again to tell us more about this peruvian treasure! Learn about different colors of maca root, their benefits and nutritional value, and how UHTCO products are different from the rest of the market.

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Podcast 416: All about Maca with Jorge Urena

MARTIN: Hello, everybody! This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast! And today I have with me Jorge Ureña, or George Urena, as the Canadians would call him. He comes to us with a company called UHTCO, and he is a phenomenal fellow. He knows so much about Peruvian agriculture, and especially about the crops that we can get from Peru, that are so unique and powerful, and to be found nowhere else. Jorge, welcome!

JORGE: Martin, thank you so much! I am glad to be here with you again and share all this information on the proven products with your customers. I think it is very important to educate our consumers on these products because they are basically different from anybody else’s.

MARTIN: That is what thrills me the most! When I first met you, I remember learning about the black and the purple maca, and then finally getting the maca concentrate, and it was just amazing. I only knew about the ‘ordinary’ maca, I didn’t know there were different color varieties, I had used it before, and it was like: well, whatever, maca. And then I finally got your product and I thought to myself: Oh, now I understand the hype! It was a significant difference! I would like to have you explain it, Jorge

JORGE: Okay! It gets to the point where many people, for example, go to the store, buy a maca product, and feel nothing. There is no effect. All the benefits that are supposed to happen never happen. Obviously, there is a reason behind it, and I would like to explain it to your customers. We already talked about it in detail last time, we discussed all about maca, so I will just go over it quickly now. Obviously, we can extend to a longer version later. So, what is maca? Maca is the root that grows in Peru at 14,000 feet altitude. It grows in the region of Junin. This is where these roots evolved for thousands of years to what we have right now. Maca wasn’t farmed until 1998, we were the first ones farming maca in Peru. I don’t know if you remember, but probably back in 2003 or 2004, maca was a new player on the market, a relatively new ingredient, and there were only a few brands on the market, including us. We launched in Canada first, at the end of 2003.

So I would like to show your customers what does maca root looks like. I hope you can see it now on the screen. We have a nice black maca root, a purple maca root, and we have also a yellow maca root. So we have these three colors. In fact, there are 11 color varieties in total, but we can actually summarize these three main colors – yellow, purple (or red), and black. Yellow maca is probably the most common variety, it is still maca, but it just gives you nutrients, not so much the benefits maca is known for. When we manufacture a product, we have two sources of raw materials – one is the fresh maca roots, and the other is the dry maca root. What I showed you before was the dried maca root. There are two sets of benefits that I can highlight. This is very important. The fresh maca root smells and tastes like horseradish, it is a bit spicy, not that pleasant to the taste. You can dry it up, you can mill it, and get a powder. But what’s going to happen is this product is not going to give you any benefit except nutrition. You are going to get nutrients only. Not that it is a bad thing, but it is not the main reason we want to include maca in our diet. The dry root will give you all the other benefits, I am talking about hormonal balance, energy, and overall well being. Of course, there are many benefits, like endurance, vigorous stamina, potency… so many benefits! But these benefits are only coming from the dry root.

Why is that? When the maca root is harvested, we have two different ways of processing it. You can powder raw material, or you can dry it. The dry maca root is actually not just something you put in an oven and then get it dry. You have to put it in the sunlight at a high altitude, over a certain period of time, usually six to nine months. The maca root will get condensation, it doesn’t really dry, but in a way, it transforms. We don’t know how, we don’t fully understand what happens inside the root, but it changes in the process, all the previous aromas and flavors of the original maca root are gone, and now we have a sweeter product. There are what we call glucosinolates in the dried root, this is just a chemical compound present in the root naturally. You will also get alkaloids and other different compounds that are not present in the fresh root.

Now back to the different color varieties – we have a difference between the colors. There is a different nutritional profile on each variety, and each product will deliver different benefits as well. So for instance, the yellow maca I mentioned is the most common variety. But the darker roots, the black, and the red maca roots are the most important ones. The purple maca will give you healing, soothing, repairing, relaxing. It is a product that will give you energy, but in a different way, it is more gradual, it is not as impacting as the black maca. The black maca root, on the contrary, is just like having a cup of espresso. It is a real energy booster. It will give you instant motion, energy, stamina, vigor, endurance, you name it. So you feel really, really good.

MARTIN: So it is more like the testosterone type of impact, right?

JORGE: Correct. But not everybody wants that type of energy. Some people may have a hormonal imbalance situation, for instance, they have too much cortisol due to stress, which is a very common problem nowadays.

MARTIN: It is always a big problem for a lot of people!

JORGE: Exactly. So if that is the case, I will not recommend you to have the black maca. Not that it is going to distort your hormonal system, but the most recommended product would be the purple maca. The purple root actually calms you down, makes you feel relaxed. You will get the energy, but in a different way, gradually, once your system is in balance, and that is the whole point. Each product is different. Everyone has a preference. We know for a fact that many, many women love the purple maca because it actually works very well for them and their hormones. You know, men and women, we are different! Women usually like to stay calm and relaxed. We men, we like strong stuff. For example when I am going to a coffee shop with my wife, I will probably get a double espresso, and my wife will get a cappuccino, something milder, you know, something that still has that caffeine, but isn’t that strong. That is more or less the same idea. My recommendation is just basically to go with the rule of thumb, okay. Black maca increases your energy levels quite fast. Purple maca will also give you energy, but differently, and it will make you feel relaxed and calm, which many people prefer.

MARTIN: Very good. Okay. So, to set you apart from the rest of the marketplace, I remember that you did a lot of support for the local farmers in Peru. You also had to deal with this market collapse that the Chinese people caused a while back.

JORGE: That was way back, maybe about five years ago, but it is happening again.

MARTIN: Oh, is it? Have they come back again?

JORGE: Yes! I am going to tell the story very quickly. What happened just a few years back… I was actually in China, I was there for a trade mission, and we were looking for customers in China. We found somebody that was dealing with maca in China, in Shanghai, and we had a meeting with this guy. It was surprising to us that these guys had been growing maca for a long time, maybe a couple of years, and they had even more hectares with maca than us in Peru, which was really weird. So we ended up finding that these guys got the seeds from Peru, they started growing it at a very low altitude, in a completely different habitat, and they were getting maca that looked like this, let me show you on the screen, can you see that?

MARTIN: I can see it. These are shriveled tiny little things!

JORGE: Yes! We call it ‘the maca carrot.’ Because it is so humid down in China, they couldn’t achieve a dry product and transformation within the root – like we have in Peru. These Chinese products were useless because they had no benefits! It was not grown in the ideal conditions for the nutrients to develop inside the root during the growing and drying process! That is also the reason Chinese maca can be so cheap. But the Chinese were really desperate to get the product because they started this whole industry that they wanted in China…

MARTIN: …because the demand was there, right?

JORGE: Yes, the demand was there for sure. So they even copied documents from Peruvian customs, they copied their addresses and everything, and said that the roots were actually imported from Peru! But they were all grown in China, with no benefits to the product. What they did then is they went to Peru and they started paying a lot of money for the maca roots, especially the black, because black is very rare.

MARTIN: Well, in Chinese culture, they are somehow really obsessed with the male energy, the male force, right?

JORGE: Correct! So what happened was many people in Peru thought: Chinese are paying a lot of money for the maca roots, so let’s grow maca! Junin is a protected area, it is like a conservation area, and the people are allowed to grow the maca on the hills, it is just a limited extent of the land. It is big, but it is limited. So they went to some other places in Peru, other provinces, other areas, which didn’t have the same habitat, the same altitude, I mean, it was a completely different story, and the maca started growing there, but again, it was not good enough, because of the growing and drying conditions. It was indeed maca from Peru, but it wasn’t the ‘right thing.’ People were losing money again because the size was too small, they were not getting the right yield, so somebody ‘brilliant’ started putting plant hormones in it. Plant hormones are going to give you a product like this (showing the root on the screen).

MARTIN: Okay, so now the size looks good… How is the nutrient content?

JORGE: I am going to make a side-by-side comparison here. (showing two different roots on the screen) This one is the ‘real one’ from Junin, and this is not. I don’t know if you noticed, but this one is like a rock. It has a rough exterior, it is not as smooth as the other one. The reason why is because of the plant hormones. The other thing is one product is lighter than the other in weight. The one with hormones is lighter because there is air in it. So.

MARTIN: It doesn’t contain the nutrients, right?

JORGE: Correct. So again, we had the same situation as the Chinese with a product that resembles maca, but it is no longer the same, and the benefits are not there. So when people are going to the store and buy a maca product, they are going to find products that claim so many things about maca from Peru, but they were manufactured with this raw material, which is useless, it doesn’t really give you any benefits at all. So the only place where you can grow maca, the real deal, is Junin! There are still people trying to grow maca somewhere else, and they find a market for it, and basically, they are making a business, but if you want really good benefits, these products are the problem.

MARTIN: We have a similar problem with almost every item, right? We have problems with wheat, with corn, with every agricultural commodity that people are trying to make cheaper. And in the process, we are finding out that the nutrients are lacking, or the benefits are lacking, and so on.

JORGE: Yes, exactly. What we can say is this ‘biopiracy’ harms the consumer but also harms the country trying to sell a product. The consumer doesn’t really know exactly what’s in the package.

MARTIN: I just want to say that the UHTCO brand has something to prove! We know that the UTHCO brand does go to the right place and gets the high-quality maca. I certainly know it, I’ve experienced it personally!

(end of Part 1, stay tuned for Part 2)

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Podcast 415: Red Light Recovery with The Bodyguard

MARTIN: Hi, everyone! This is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast Podcast, and with me today is Charlie Shupp. Charlie is from a company known as Speed of Light, and we are going to be talking about light, and healing your body with light. Charlie, welcome!

CHARLES: Thank you! Thanks for having me!

MARTIN: Should we call it Speed of Light, or should we give it a different name?

CHARLES: Speed of Light is correct. And a specific product that we are going to talk about is called The Bodyguard.

MARTIN: The Bodyguard, yes! Light is one of those incredibly important things when it comes to human health. There are people who live on light alone, watching the photons come through their eyes and so on, I think we are not going to be that sophisticated, but there is a whole lot to be said about light entering the human body, right?

CHARLES: Yes, there is. We are not that much different from plants!

MARTIN: Right! There is something called a chromophore in every cell, right?

CHARLES: Yes, there is. Those chromophores and the mitochondria in each one of your cells has a photoreceptor on each one of them, and there are specific wavelengths that are absorbed by chromophores. But what is also extremely important is that there is a photo window, so only certain wavelengths can enter past your skin, and can reach the target for recovery.

MARTIN: So you guys have done some research about that, huh?

CHARLES: We have been in R&D for this product and development of our photobiomodulation technology for a little more than five years. It started kind of as a family competition where we wanted to start to use science and engineering to try and figure out how we can perform better and beat other family members in some endurance races that we would host every year.

MARTIN: That’s fantastic! Actually, talk about that a little, you found out that you can strap this thing on a person while they are working hard or putting out energy, right?

CHARLES: Yeah. That has been the driver for the startup of this product. A whole driver for our company has been to try and find an everyday product that people can wear and gain the benefits of light therapy without having to go outside naked at sunrise and sunset every day.

MARTIN: I totally appreciate the fact that you’re pursuing the peak performance, which of course I’d love to talk about. People who are healthy and want to do even better, but I suspect that the same technology will also work on people who are at the margins of health-seeking improvement.

CHARLES: Yes. I think that is really what The Bodyguard is specifically designed for. We designed the product to be something that can target some of the extremely important areas of your body, which are some of your ancillary breathing muscles, your lower back, lung tissue, things that have super important critical functions in your body. And the pivot that we made away from the peak performance specific product to The Bodyguard was in response to what we had seen from both people going on ventilators, getting massive amounts of lung damage, having oxygenation problems, and we saw some of those things, and the doctors that are in our team and in our group were experiencing it firsthand. So we said: “Hey, we know that this product does an amazing job to drive oxygenated hemoglobin in your body, it does an amazing job to release nitric oxide from the ATP cycle. So we set out to make a product that we thought could have an impact, it could help not only the peak performance athletes but people who are struggling with just basic health issues.”

MARTIN: So give me some examples, on the performance side of things, what sort of improvements do these people get?

CHARLES: That is a very difficult question to answer. However, we are doing everything we can to try and have definitive answers and conduct studies that are specifically correlated to performance. There is a massive body of evidence. In fact, I was just reading an article this morning about the IOC investigating photobiomodulation as a performance enhancement tool that they are going to try and regulate. I don’t know how that would work, but there are a number of really well-executed studies that show that you have both longer endurance when you are using these products, and those studies are specifically targeted to pre-exercise treatments. So one of the ways that I kind of think about that is it’s almost a warmup and an optimization for your body, so it helps to drive oxygenation, it helps to vasodilate, it helps to get nitric oxide flowing in the blood. So when the endurance event happens, there are people in a non-peak performance state that get more than a 10% increase in total endurance.

MARTIN: I was hoping you can tell me something about your own experience doing some endurance event or something like that.

CHARLES: Okay, sure! One of the extremely important things for us is that this product actually holds up and can withstand some type of event. We have worn these products in cross country ski events, the American Birkebeiner is a 50-kilometer ski race in Northern Wisconsin, where we have the lights integrated into our ski outfits. We have worn them for an event called the Triple Bypass where we biked 120 miles in one day over three mountain passes, we had the lights with a battery pack, and they survived all of the tests. We have a huge library and museum of prototypes that have not survived the test. We are really excited about the product that we have right now. We are using some specialized materials that we’ve gone through in long R&D test periods. Everything is manufactured in the United States, which we think is amazing, we custom design all of our own circuits, we add all of the highest quality components and highest quality materials that we can add into the product. And that has given us the ability to start to test this under extreme endurance activities.

MARTIN: Yeah. I’m really pleased that you’re keeping the American robots well employed!

CHARLES: Yes!

MARTIN: It’s kind of neat to know that these days where you can employ the numerically controlled machines, the precision is awesome, the quality is consistent, and you don’t have to rely on imports, you make it right in your backyard, or a barn…

CHARLES: Yes.

MARTIN: Is it a barn? (laughing)

CHARLES: (laughing) I hope the audio is okay because the manufacturing is right on the other side of this wall! I’m sure we will hear some noise at some point coming through. In terms of the specific targets that I can say that I noticed the big difference is delayed onset muscle soreness, and this is almost like a magic eraser that takes away all the soreness and tiredness, and fatigue after an endurance event, without needing a warmup and stretching and all the rest of the things that more serious athletes have time to do, I’m able to compete in these events but still have the time to do the things I need to do.

MARTIN: Great. So could you talk a bit about all the sciency bits of it? We are dealing with the lights, wavelength, pulse rate, amplitude, there are multiple controllable qualities of it. You guys did a whole lot of research into this, didn’t you?

CHARLES: Yes, we have done a ton of research into this. We’ve done a ton of studies on ourselves. We do have a few IRB (international review board) approvals, we have done studies at the Mayo clinic… If you want to conduct a study on a human being, you need to have it approved by an international review board, so any qualified research institution needs to get a study approved first through the IRB, to make sure that it’s both safe and effective, and have the kind of statistics and outcomes that are required.

MARTIN: So you’ve studied and studied. Can you talk about the details of it?

CHARLES: Yeah, so one of the very key distinctions is the ability to pulse the light. So we use a pulse with modulation, with a microcontroller that we have on our board, we have firmware and software that we’ve written that can control both the pulse, modulation and the frequency at which the light is delivered. That’s kind of akin to any adaptation that happens with the human body. So if you smell a strong smell right away, it’s something that hits you in the face and then your olfactory bulbs start to adjust and that smell is not nearly as strong, so there’s this amazing adaptation.

MARTIN: Right, like when you come into the room where you’ve been cutting onions, you know about it, but then five minutes later, you don’t smell it anymore.

CHARLES: Yes, and then you walk outside and you walk back in and you realize: “Holy cow, it smells like onions in here.”

MARTIN: How does that relate back to the light?

CHARLES: The same thing happens with those photoreceptors that are on each mitochondrion. So if you blast just a single continuous wave of light at those photoreceptors, they will also adapt. And there is another very key scientific understanding that is the biphasic dose-response. So biphasic dose-response is kind of a sweet spot. If you deliver too little energy into the system, then you won’t drive the metabolic reaction. If you drive too much energy into the system, then you also stop the metabolic reaction, because of that adaptation, the receptor stops taking in that light energy.

So the testing that really is extremely important to dial in is finding out that is that biphasic dose-response with the specific device that we have, and what are the parameters that we need to program in order to optimize what the oxygenated hemoglobin levels are with the treatment, optimize what the frequency levels are because that has another big impact in how the photoreceptor can take in that light, and then how do we balance not delivering enough, or over-delivering. I think one of the big misnomers that we have learned in the marketplace so far is that most products put out power comparisons, and they say: “We deliver 450 Watts of power.” And people put out comparisons of a number of Watts to a number of dollars.

MARTIN: That’s a lot like me saying: “I will deliver to you a load of oranges and I’ll dump it in your yard.”

CHARLES: Yeah. More power is not better. You need to have smart power and smart delivery of the light in order to optimize what that reaction is going to be.

MARTIN: Yeah, this is important. And I’m so impressed by you guys, this is hard-earned knowledge, right?

CHARLES: Yes, it is very hard-earned knowledge, and we are lucky that we have the benefit of the team members that we have. We have an MD, Ph.D. radiologist, who really understands how photons and waves enter the body. We have a dermatologist who specializes in light delivery and uses it in his practice every day for anything from cancer treatment to a whole bunch of different skin conditions. We have an exercise physiology family practice doctor, who is amazing at synthesizing what the power delivery pieces are and running the tests for the biphasic dose-response curve. And then we also have a computer and electrical engineer that allows us to design, build, test, and study what those different parameters are, and how we make a decision to deliver the best type of light energy into your body.

MARTIN: Great! So the results on the back end of this one could expect would be inflammation down, endurance up, pain down, joy up…?

CHARLES: Those are some pretty big buckets!

MARTIN: Right, like the enjoyment of life, or you mentioned the skin… Do you have the product nearby that you could just hold up and show our viewers? So this probably isn’t easily put on your face, right? Like this works best when wrapped around your back or chest.

CHARLES: (showing the product on the screen) Yeah, this product is specifically targeted to larger areas of your body. It works around your chest, it works around your back, it works around the leg, around the thigh… it can be kind of wrapped and applied to really any part of your body. What we found is that when this is applied to the low back and targets the ancillary breathing muscles around your lungs, you can drive kind of one of the highest reactions in your body for just overall oxygenated hemoglobin levels, nitric oxide release, those are kind of the two targets that we really honed in on with this specific product. It is not the very best one for carpal tunnel syndrome or an ankle injury, but in terms of targeting larger areas of your body, it is perfect.

MARTIN: But I could visualize laying my forearm onto this.

CHARLES: Yes, you can do that, that is the setup that I typically have any time I sit at my desk. I always have the device right on my desk, and after a few hours of Zoom meetings all day long and typing on the computer, I start to get a crick in my shoulder, so I put the Bodyguard inside of my shirt and it automatically cycles, it is 15 minutes on, and 30 minutes off. When we run our oxygenated hemoglobin studies, when we have done exhaled nitric oxide studies, we found that it takes about seven and a half minutes to hit peak oxygenation, and our light stays on for another seven minutes, and that curve remains elevated for about 30 minutes after treatment stops. There are a lot of factors that go into it. You can deflect that curve by drinking cold water or eating food and diverting blood flow back to the digestive system. But if you’re just at your desk and you’re not doing anything else, after 30 minutes is when that dropout starts to happen, so the device cycles back on for another 15 minutes. And what we found is that you can keep that oxygenation curve and with it recovery happening in your body consistently with that cycle.

MARTIN: Does this need to be directly against your skin?

CHARLES: Yes. And that’s why we designed this product the way that we have designed it. There is a layer of foam that holds the diodes just about 1/16 of an inch away from your skin, and there is an inverse square of dropoff. So if you are one foot away, you have an inverse square of light power that’s coming out of your panel to what can be absorbed by your body, and that’s a complicated equation. I don’t think that people are crunching inverse squares in their head if they’re using something that is not directly against their skin.

MARTIN: You can say that it drops off dramatically with distance.

CHARLES: Yes, it drops off dramatically. We have a laboratory-grade light meter that we test all of our devices on. We program the devices, test them after being programmed to make sure that the dose of delivery is exactly as we had specified.

MARTIN: Is the device easy to clean?

CHARLES: It is very easy, this is an EVA foam, a closed-cell cross-linked foam, that is naturally antimicrobial, so nothing can really stay on the surface, and it can be fully sanitized. You can wipe it down with any mild soap and sponge, you can use a wet wipe, a sanitizing wipe with alcohol and if you want you can clean it with alcohol.

MARTIN: Great! Okay, can you talk a bit about your company itself? A bit of history, a bit of glory, whatever.

CHARLES: Yeah, so like I’d mentioned, we had been in R&D for a very long time, and it has been kind of like a side passion product project for the majority of our team. We have the doctors that are involved, medical advisors, we have some intellectual property that we filed that’s around exactly how the dose delivery happens, and I said: “Hey, if we want to do something other than just go to the hospital and test this thing and then compete against each other, we have to make this a real company.” So I used my manufacturing equipment and experience. My background is in architecture, but I find more joy in creating products that are going to help people and impact people. It’s amazing how complex a product like this can be compared to a building. You think that creating a whole building and the architecture and all of the things that need to happen is complicated, but the human body and the stresses that someone can put on a device are unbelievable. And I think that was one of the reasons for our very long R&D timeline, we needed to know that our circuit, our device, and what we were going to build wasn’t going to break. We are located in our manufacturing facility in St. Paul, Minnesota, so it is all made with love in Minnesota.

MARTIN: So you don’t have all the distractions of a beach and the mountains.

CHARLES: Yes, that’s right, that’s exactly right. We have ice and snow for the majority of the year, so we might as well work.

MARTIN: That’s great! Have you sold many of these yet?

CHARLES: We just launched this product at the very end of December in 2020, and we just launched our website. We are finding wholesalers and retailers, and we are selling the product primarily through our website. We’ve started to get a little bit more traction, and we are learning more and more every day about what people are looking for in a photobiomodulation product, and we try to differentiate ourselves from the ‘more power is better’ marketplace that I think is kind of prevalent right now.

MARTIN: So I guess we can expect developments over time!

CHARLES: Yes, for sure! Do you want to see a couple real quick just to see where we’re headed?

MARTIN: Yes, for sure!

CHARLES: Yeah, so this is a sneak peek prototype. (showing prototypes on the screen) So we know that we need to be able to use this product in a whole bunch of different applications. Pain doesn’t just happen around your low back and lungs. We have new smaller prototypes you will be able to use on smaller parts of the body. It works extremely well for the wrist, ankles, shoulders… with this product, you would be able to wear multiple versions of this, you could have one on each hamstring or one on your shoulder, you can have multiple multiple devices running at the same time. This is where we have the diode array, and the backside is just the foam I mentioned earlier.

MARTIN: Great. I also wanted to say that I’m impressed just how competitively you have priced the product. This is a sophisticated device, way beyond what that ordinary deck of LED lights from China will do, right?

CHARLES: Yes. To go back to the company question, the way that we’ve done that is to stay as lean as we possibly can, and be as efficient as we possibly can, so we can deliver value in our product. We really believe in the quality of the product, the quality of the components that go into the product, and the science backing what we are making.

MARTIN: I love that about you, it’s the humbleness and the grounded-ness. I guess that’s the good old cold weather American spirit.

CHARLES: Yeah, I guess that’s what happens when you’re in Minnesota.

MARTIN: Yup. That’s great. Awesome. I love it. So to sum it all up: The inflammation brings five problems – redness, heat, swelling, pain, and loss of function. When you bring light to it, and when you improve the mitochondrial function, you reverse all of this.

CHARLES: That was a great description.

MARTIN: So just remember: if it hurts, if it’s swollen, or if it’s just not functioning as it should, this light will help. Thank you very much, Charlie. Are you the CEO?

CHARLES: I am the CEO, yes.

MARTIN: Charlie Schupp, the CEO of Speed of Light! My name is Martin Pytela from Life Enthusiast, we are restoring vitality to you and to the planet. You can reach me at www.life-enthusiast.com. Thank you.

Note: the information provided are not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult with your medical professional(s) if you are dealing with a specific medical issue.

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