The Aftershow with Mike and Kelly: Recent Episodes

Kelly Guimont & Michael T. Rose

The hosts of TUAW's Talkcast continue their transcontinental tête-à-tête on their all-new show. Join Portland, OR's Kelly Guimont (@verso) and Brooklyn, NY's Michael T. Rose (@miketrose) as they chat about technology, geek culture, parenting and more.

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Kelly & Mike covering their favorite touring acts.

  • The Midnight on tour
    • Los Angeles
    • Neon Odyssey
  • Chuck's reply to Mike
  • Garrison Starr — Gin & Juice
  • Richard Cheese version
  • Glenn Phillips Grief & Praise
    • I'm Going Back There Someday
  • Amelie Farren
    • on Spotify
  • Conjuring Code with Ian Varley
  • Freedy Johnston
    • On The Way Out
  • Boys Noize
    • Nine Inch Noize
  • Mike on Road to Macstock

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We remember our buddy Chuck La Tournous, and catch up on our media. Also note this episode was recorded in April before the first round of the NBA Playoffs, go Knicks!

Several memories of Chuck: TidBITS, Bryan Chaffin, and Daring Fireball.

  • Shrinking on Apple TV
  • Acapulco on Apple TV
  • Netflix Untold: Jail Blazers
  • Spotify's mix feature
    • The Yacht Rock Megamix
  • Letterkenny & Heated Rivalry
  • Mike's appearance on TWIT
  • Aftershow Hello!
  • Conjuring Code with Ian Varley
  • Mike's choir concert with Here To Sing
  • Gatsby by Florence Welch

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Remembering Kelly's Mac Observer colleague John Martellaro. Our condolences to his family, friends and colleagues. If you would like to donate in his memory, consider the Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research.

Kelly's looking for the best way to build her band/her personal website, if you've got suggestions.

  • Background Mode
    • Background Mode (one of many) with Kelly
    • Background Mode with Mike
  • John's review of an iOS Space Shuttle Sim… noting he wrote the Apple II version!
  • Marchintosh!
  • A Barenaked Ladies song appropriate to John's memory & Kelly's BNL Playlist
    • (Why mac & cheese is not allowed at BNL live shows anymore)
    • Yellow Tape version of "If I Had $1,000,000"
  • Jason Snell on Jeopardy!
  • The Incomparable — Stand By Me
  • Macstock speakers page
  • The Midnight Tour
  • Brooklyn Paramount
  • Marco Arment on ATP — transcription in Overcast
    • Overcast
  • Confrontation on Shrinking

This episode was recorded in late March, before the untimely passing of Chuck La Tournous. We will be talking more about Chuck (who wrote repeatedly about how Apple technologies improved his health) on a future Aftershow.

This was also our first show recorded using Descript/Squadcast, instead of our usual Cast recording app. There are a couple of dropouts in the edit due to Kelly's stream glitching, which we will try to fix for next time!

Photo courtesy TMO/Bryan Chaffin.

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Kelly's in another band? Join our intrepid podcasters as they wrap their heads around two cover bands, a basketball scandal, AirPods regressions and more. (And a belated Happy Exploding Whale Day.)

  • Gothmas on the Solstice! https://www.holocene.org/event/gothmas-constant-debauchery-depeche-mode-kiss-me-kiss-me-kiss-me-the-cure-precious-machinery-siouxsie-and-the-banshees/holocene/portland/
  • https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/23/portland-trail-blazers-name-interim-coach-after-billups-arrest/
  • https://www.complyfoam.com/products/memory-foam-ear-tips-for-apple-airpods-pro-3?variant=47125450031291
  • https://www.charjenpro.com/products/airfoamsprov20?variant=47114246193370
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6CLumsir34
  • https://www.oregonlive.com/living/2025/11/its-exploding-whale-day-in-oregon-10-things-to-know-about-the-blubber-blast-55-years-later.html

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From the vaults! Recorded back in May but lost in the edit process… hear historical facts about the NBA Playoffs & past Precious Machinery shows! Thrill to Mike's excitement of the Knicks run, not knowing how it would end! Draw sustenance from Kelly's new job and new band!

For our listeners who were hoping for a live show from Macstock — unfortunately the stars did not align for this year, but we will deliver a traditional not-the-same-place summer show instead.

  • Check out the tiny bass of Christa Mrgan

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Precious Machinery made its New Year's Eve debut! And more from your transcontinental cohosts.

  • Precious Machinery
    • Next show
  • The Twenty Sided Tavern
  • Steve Harper's SNOW in SF

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Special Guest Tom Bridge of the Mac Admins Podcast joins the Aftershow crew for a Very Special Episode™!

We also extend a heartfelt Aftershow Hello to our pal Chris Fuller. We love you C & we're thinking of you.

  • Go see Kelly on NYE in Precious Machinery
  • Constant Debauchery
  • The History of Computing Podcast
  • Remembering Charles Edge
  • https://docs.blackberry.com/en/endpoint-management/blackberry-enterprise-mobility-server/3_6
  • https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/integrate-mac-computers-with-active-directory-depd1a7cad1f/web
  • Cisco Routers for the Desperate
  • Who were you, DenverCoder9?
  • https://isimagingdead.com

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Mike and Kelly catch up on their summer musical experiences, including a big announcement from KG on her COVER BAND launching soon in Portland!

[This episode was recorded on 11/2, before Election Day.]

  • Mike's trip to Collective Retreats
  • Jeff Carlson
  • Kelly's trip to Blockbuster of Bend
  • The ReMarkable relaxation/focus rooms
  • The story of Robert Smith and Siouxie Sioux
    • Metal Postcard (Precious Machinery)
  • The Midnight: Comet (Mystic Pizza), Comet (About Last Night)
  • Chromeo — Juice
  • Apple M4 No Sweat
  • Best Earplugs / Earpeace / Eargasm
  • Concert fans

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A little bit of politics, a little bit of Muppets, and tuning in for Clipped! (We'll talk about WWDC next time.)

  • Clipped on FX/Hulu
  • Kelly AuCoin on The Rich Eisen Show
  • Richard Hunt of The Muppets
  • New at MacStories
  • Sam Buttrey at Inside Jeopardy
  • Kelly on The Incomparable 1, 2

Don't forget to sign up for Macstock! https://macstockconferenceandexpo.com/register/

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Remember the eclipse and the earthquake? Good times. This episode, recorded in mid-April, comes off the shelf to remind you of that thing that happened that one time.

  • Graham Chapman of Monty Python
    • Memorial service
    • US Comedy Arts Festival
  • Earthquakes & eclipses, oh my!

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Kelly & Mike review the live performances and random illnesses of the last few weeks. Congratulations to the Iconfactory on their successful Kickstarter campaign for Project Tapestry!

  • Ray-Ban Meta glasses
  • Apple sued by DOJ
  • Walmart selling the MacBook Air M1
  • The Sphere
  • Meow Wolf/Omega Mart
  • Earpeace
    • also at Amazon
  • Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
    • Play "Spot Kelly!"
  • MARCHintosh
    • Hashtag on Mastodon
  • Kevin's TED Talk
  • The Menopause Brain
  • NotebookLM
    • This Week In Startups episode

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Kelly & Mike are thrilled to welcome Ged Maheux of The Iconfactory to our fun time podcast party. Ged and his colleagues are kickstarting a new app, Project Tapestry, which aims to be "a universal timeline for the Internet." Since we recorded last week, the project has reached and passed its original funding goal — which means it's time to stretch, so limber up those credit cards and hie yourself over to the project page on Kickstarter.

  • Bitcam on the App Store
  • Poolsuite
  • Funspot NH
  • The Midnight: Shadows
    • Trailer
  • Pet Shop Boys
    • Loneliness (Official Video)
  • The instantly obsolete Mac IIvx

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Welcoming our OG "listener hello" to the guest chair! Chris Fuller joins Mike and Kelly to chat about the Mac's 40th Anniversary and the Vision Pro.

Please support Chris' daughter Eleanor in her Girl Scout Cookie fundraising this season!

  • Save Our Flag Means Death
  • Relay FM Draft 40th Anniversary Edition
  • The Banana Jr Case Mod
    • Computer History Museum
    • PB1400c Still Alive
  • Chimes of Death/Car Crash Sound
  • The "Black Terminator" for the Mac IIfx
  • Mike's Old Home Screen
  • MacVoices 979 TUAW Peek Behind The Curtain (2009)

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Our happy 100th episode! Kelly's San Francisco adventures and a new Tetris world champion.

  • LCD Soundsystem
  • Peaches
  • Zombie Village / Tiki
  • Tetris broken

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Belated birthday greetings to Ms Kelly! Phone therapy for Mike, blended family obligations, making your preparations with older parents, gift suggestions and more!

(Note for listeners — Mike did in fact upgrade his Mac mini to Sonoma, and his Drobo 5D continues to work as before.)

  • 1Password emergency kit
  • Get Your S*** Together
  • NOKbox
  • Cake.com on aging parents
  • Optimum unlimited legacy plan
  • Lemmy season
  • Travesty Ltd, Rock and Roll Doctor
  • Kellyoke
  • Locked Out of Heaven
  • For Reasons Unknown
  • vbsongs.com (the app Mike was thinking of was Healsonic)
  • Weird Al, CNR
  • Numb by U2
  • Judge John Hodgman live show
    • The Podcast
  • The best typing gloves
  • 40W Wall charger
  • MacVoices Gift Guides
  • Moshi Digits gloves
  • Doonesbury & the Newton — https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/mobile-computing/18/319/1714 and https://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/18/business/doonesbury-and-apple-hatch-a-comic-surprise.html & https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1993/08/25
  • Eat Up Martha
  • twelvesouth.com
  • nomadgoods.com
  • effinbirds.com

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Kelly shares the glory of Raspberry Pi and DACs, and Mike sounds a little weird (not while singing). Also, "Shot on iPhone" doesn't mean Cletus is the next Scorcese.

  • Audio expansion for the Pi
  • Tim Cook Says 'Good Morning'
  • Giant Squid t-shirts
    • What's Cooking at Apple t-shirt
    • The Terminator
  • Shot on iPhone — Apple's Scary Fast
  • Mike & Hannalina on YouTube (Here To Sing)

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Some memories with the Aftershow crew, both of whom are a little off their game.

  • Fragforce on Twitch — twitch.tv/fragforce
  • Mike's Extra Life page
  • Aaron Prince obit
  • New YouTube App features with Rene
  • iCloud Legacy Mode
  • Victory not Vengeance
  • Nile Rodgers
    • Sister Sledge The Greatest Dancer
    • Chic interview with Bernard Edwards
    • Live at Budokan
    • Tiny Desk Concert
  • Jeff Carlson
  • The Midnight
    • Gloria
    • Land Locked Heart
    • Heart Worth Breaking

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Yes, it's the aftermath of the iPhone 15 announcements, but there's other stuff going on — and we spent a solid hour+ on them, so feel free to break it up into multiple listens!

  • Mike's Oreo birthday presents
    • these Pop Tarts are no bueno
    • Compare the Mild Sweet Oreos
  • Effin' Birds encounters and history
  • the glory that is Festa Lounge SF
  • HDMI capture card or Klingon delicacy?
  • Forgetting your Kickstarter past

Be sure to check out the iPad external HDMI display apps including Camo Studio and Orion (from the folks at Lux who brought you Halide, including Sebastian de With).

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Reviewing Kelly's TV recommendations for the fall and anticipating the upcoming September 12 Apple Event.

  • Deadloch on Amazon Prime
  • Hustle Rule podcast
  • Upright on IMDB
  • Our Flag Means Death season 2 — Madeline Sami joins cast

If you like the show, follow us on Mastodon and also please tell your friends so they can enjoy it too! (Remember, everyone who lets us know they listen will be greeted personally)

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Back at it at the end of the summer — part one of our Return Double Episode!

Mike and Kelly catch up on what's been happening, talk Eurovision and Phonemas miracles, and Kelly issues a stern warning about one of the more popular accessory vendors. Plus a must-watch recommendation from Kelly!

(By the bye, you can follow Mike or Kelly or the show on Mastodon)

  • Apple event on September 12
  • Eurovision
  • USB-C switch at DaringFireball
  • Glenn Fleischman at TidBITS and Take Control on USB-C
  • Rolling Square universal cable
  • Monoprice universal cable
  • 3-in-1 device charger
  • Anker subsidiary Eufy acknowledges video access issues
  • Deadloch at IMDB

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Part 2 of our return episode! Thanks to Tom Bridge for our killer business cards.

  • Apple Music Sing
  • Canned cocktails
  • 19 Crimes wine
  • White Elephant Gifts
    • Moshi gloves
    • Muji gloves

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Did you miss us? Summer break is over and the (winter) solstice is upon us. This is part 1 of a double-length episode, as Kelly and Mike had a lot to catch up on.

  • Lots of us have become Friends of John M.
    • You can follow the show at https://masthead.social/@aftershow and the hosts at the links on our show page!
  • Obi Wan Lebowski
  • The Witcher Season 3 is coming
  • Mike got new Internet
  • Apple Music Sing!
  • Brett Goldstein meets the Muppets
    • seriously look at his face

We'll be back next week with part 2 of the show for the holidays! Happy Hanukkah (or Mastodonukkah) and Merry Christmas to all.

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It's a bonus! The first episode of Loud, Fast, & Keep Going — follow along at http://loud-fast-keep-going.cast.rocks/ or at weatheralibi.com!

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May the Fourth be with you! Kelly & Mike compare Star Wars wardrobe, share their favorite meditation apps and alert listeners to be on the lookout for the new NohoHankCast.

  • Star Wars wardrobe
    • Kelly's shirt
    • Mike's shirt
    • Kelly's necklace
  • Meditation & mindfulness apps
    • Andrew Johnson
    • Plum Village
    • Headspace
    • 10% Happier
    • Well By Wolfe
    • Siberian North Railroad
    • Ts&zzz
    • Calm Blue Gold
  • How Picard Can It Be? podcast

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Kelly's mad at soap operas, Mike has bionic parts, and more!

  • 12 hours of nerdy background noise! ambient sci-fi noise playlist
    • Deckard's apartment from Blade Runner
  • Mike's new favorite music video — Sondheim's Johanna Quartet reprise as 90s synth pop (via Alex Pearlman) (more here)
  • Chrome's new media control
  • Charlotte Henry's The Addition
  • Kelly's theslice.net
  • Universal Control coolness

As a reminder, if you let us know you listen we will say hello to you on the show! 

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Looking ahead to Peek Performance, Kelly's got a brand new bag, and more!

Apple's Peek Performance event is coming up on Tuesday, and your loyal hosts dive into the House of Crackpot Theories to uncover what's coming. Also: Kelly's new site/show, The Slice, will be up and running at http://www.theslice.tech/ this week!

  • The TMO Daily Observations podcast archive
  • Peek Performance what to expect
  • Friend of the show Kelly AuCoin on The Girl From Plainville (Hulu)
  • Fall Detection on the Apple Watch
  • New domains without the shame at not-yet-a-sponsor Hover
  • Upload on Prime Video + Mohonk Mountain House
  • don't forget your Weather Alibis
  • the Chris Rawson classic "33 Things You Don't Need if you have an iPhone"

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It's the anniversary of Mike & Kelly's inauspicious meeting at Macworld Expo! Fourteen years ago today, Kelly found out she wasn't going to be writing for TUAW (a short-lived rejection), only a couple of weeks after she met Mike at the Extensis booth… hear the story & more in this episode.

  • Mike is damaged
  • The holiday ornament gift
  • Kelly's rejection
  • Ged Maheux on TMO Daily Observations
  • Drag Bingo at Hinterlands Bar
  • Friend of the show Kelly AuCoin on The Endgame (NBC)
  • Apple Watch haptic alarms have some concerns
  • Leather Link watch band
  • The Amazing Race returns with a new look — also who goes on this show without knowing how to drive stick

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It's a weird two-parter! Come for the M1 Pro musings, stay for Kelly's birthday present.

This episode was recorded in two parts but released as a single, maxi-sized episode for your enjoyment.

  • Farhad Manjoo on the M1 Max
  • Revive or Restore your Mac (Macworld)
  • Doc Rock on YouTube
  • Glenning
  • Alfred Preis
  • Death Star ornament
    • (Our cover art this time is Kelly's birthday present from Mike, in honor of IWMmcuTV)

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Is Meatspace Encounter a band, a videogame, or Mike's rendezvous with our last episode's guest? Listen in to find out!

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Kelly and Mike are joined by special guest Rich Siegel of Bare Bones Software! KitchenAid mixers, African Grey parrots, M1 migrations and much more.

  • Bare Bones Software
  • BBEdit
  • Yojimbo
  • Rich Siegel on Twitter
  • Mixerology

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Kelly & Mike are back in the hosting chairs, talking about the Pacific Northwest heatwaves, the upcoming iOS 15/macOS Monterey features, and thinking about karaoke. Listen in!

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Kelly goes Max Vax, Mike goes out to dinner, and both discuss the Apple product announcements & quarterly results.

Featuring not yet a sponsor Werkstatt!

  • Apple Card Family
  • The Prince solo & behind the scenes
    • Direct YouTube link
    • LA Times story
  • M.G. Siegler compares Apple and Microsoft
  • CharJen AirFoams Pro Active

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Kelly and Mike review what's wearing them down, plus Christopher Walken impressions. Tuesday's Apple Event, how we distinguish Shatner from Walken, the new Thursdays with Bob, and more! Episode photo courtesy Alex Pearlman.

  • Kelly's not school
  • Rusty in the Uncanine Valley
  • The Shotenfreude origin story
  • I Want My MCUtv
  • Meet The Walken Family
  • The Podswap

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Mike and Kelly welcome special guest Michael McWatters! Talking HBO Max (now with custom avatars! — Mike wants to be Christopher Moltisanti), TED, the late lamented Tweet Hereafter, Sycamore, Hinterlands, designing for an aging population, and more.

Check out our new site weatheralibi.com — for all your weather alibi needs.

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Wandavision, should Mike buy a new watch, and what we remember from the late 2000s — plus greetings to listeners and more!

  • Javi recalls a bar story about the LOST finale
  • Mike suggests "Free To Be MCU & Me" as the title for Kelly's other show
    • Also works: MCU Headroom
  • Shout outs to:
    • Wooji Juice Ferrite
    • The legendary Macsamurai
    • Mike's unloved Night Before Christmas parody from  2006

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This week Mike remembers his stepfather Bob Pearlman, who passed away on February 11. He and Kelly also recall the infamous "formerly Cylon media sensation" nickname, brought back for an upcoming episode of Foodie Flashback.

  • Jabs & Jobs
  • The Death Star Blueprints Are mRNA
  • In A World…
  • Reminder about Maximoff Overdrive on the Incomparable Network!
  • Compare and contrast Mike's father Alan Rose & Dos Equis pitchman Jonathan Goldsmith

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Kelly finally reveals the secret she's been keeping from Mike for more than a decade!

You may never be the same after the shocking revelation in this episode! We'll give you the entire thing, but you'll only need… the edge.

Mentions, recommendations and more:

  • Kelly's new WandaVision podcast with the Incomparable Teevee: Maximoff Overdrive
  • Hulu's In and Of Itself (based on the off-Broadway show) and Letterkenny
  • American Utopia
  • Muppet Guys Talking
  • Street Gang (coming to HBO)

Follow the show on Twitter to find out when we're hosting our first Clubhouse chat!

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Mike and Kelly reflecting on the historic week that was. Bernie Sits, Mom Likes A Frappucino, the Bitfocus Companion app that works with Elgato Stream Deck, and the Muppet Show (UK spots too?) coming to Disney+.

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More M1 chat, Take Control Books. Thunderbolt Hubbing, wrangling Photos and anticipating the digital afterlife. Nothing heavy.

  • Take Control Books
  • Get Your S**t Together
    • Macsamurai! Laurie Duncan
  • MCU Phase 4
    • What If…?
  • [REDACTED] LIVES T-shirt
  • OWC's Thunderbolt Hub (as foreshadowed on MGG 844 with OWC Larry)
    • Mage or Tech? Thunderbolt Hubbing
  • E-Ternal from Joanna Stern/WSJ

Be sure to follow our co-hosts @verso & @miketrose and the show itself @the_aftershow!

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The unusual (actually unprecedented) Aftershow where both our intrepid hosts have new computers (Apple Silicon!) at the same time.  Kelly's new laptop adventures, Mike's Mac mini misgivings, and plenty of cool links to explore. (Why is the M1 Mac mini not equipped with a wireless charger in the lid??)

  • Tracy Kidder's Soul of a New Machine
  • Rene Ritchie's slew of M1 videos
  • Kelly's interview with PC Calc's James Thomson on TMO
  • The long era of Target Display Mode coming to a close (thanks Jeff Gamet!)
  • Software KVMs Synergy and Barrier
  • TMO Thunderbolt 4 Explained and at Liliputing
  • MacVoices Gift Guides (MTR, KG)
  • tab management — not yet a sponsor Workona
  • The Incomparable:
    • Media Plus
    • Mandalorian
    • Life Day
  • the Caldigit T3

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Kelly talks about her big interview, and we review our shopping lists. Also, yeah, there was an Apple event. (Happy Birthday to Kelly!)

  • Brimley/Cocoon Line
  • SmolRobots
  • Effin' Birds
  • I'll Be Gone In The Dark
  • Spatial Audio on AirPods Pro
  • Not Yet a Sponsor Discbound Notebooks

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Kelly and Mike review the past couple of weeks including the iPhone 12 Pro and the Homepod Mini. More sleep stories including Ts and Zzzs. Happy Mandalween!

  • The Mandalorian Season 2
  • MacVoices Live
  • Texas 24-hour voting
  • Airpods Pro on Woot
  • The Grange
  • VoteFWD
  • Empress Gin
  • Smiths jokes
  • Upgrading iCloud storage / Apple One

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Kelly remembers Cliff Robinson; Mike  recommends Genghis Blues;  we give another shot at Tuvan throat singing. Also, perfect comedy timing.

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Rapid response! Basketball Jones becomes Basketball Justice as Mike & Kelly discuss the NBA playoff protest, and catch up on all the things we forgot to talk about earlier.

Links:

  • The Skimm on the NBA
  • Yahoo News
  • Andrew Johnson
  • Calm Sleep Stories — Stephen Fry's Blue Gold
  • Phil Schiller becomes an Apple Fellow
  • Ten Percent Happier

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Kelly, Mike & bonus mid-episode guest Kelly AuCoin talk about the NBA playoffs, the Apple updates of the week and the sad news of a podcast legend hanging up the cans.

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Digging into the WWDC announcements… also maybe a TUAW reunion this week! And a flashback to the origins of 'Marklar,' the OS X on Intel project.

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It's almost as if there's an actual excuse for the pause between shows, this time. Content warning: apocalypse chat.

Mike & Kelly review the last couple of months; Mike's story also on Medium. If you are curious about Fiona Lowenstein's Body Politic support group, you can check it out here & see some of the participant stories/data (TL;dr version).

  • A special Rainbow Connection
  • ipadstohospitals.org
  • Dave Hamilton's $99 video call phone
  • Adam Engst's SSD replacement
  • Sondheim birthday
  • Ladies Who Lunch (as previously heard in this Sept 2019 episode)
  • Saturday Night Seder

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We're back in February! Talking about Bootie Mashup, Mac OS Ken's Patreon show, all the Westworld Season 3 trailers, and why Mike can't remember that the Picard behind the scenes show is called The Ready Room!

Remember you can follow us on Twitter at The_Aftershow.

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Jeopardy, the Pet Shop Boys musical, Demi Adejuyigbe's 21st Of September, Harry Connick Jr. IS Young Will Riker, and Kelly & Mike review a decade plus of silliness. Plus Jonathan Blum, Endel on Twitch, Stephen Fry Sleep Stories and Pluto.TV.

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Netflix's dirty jokes, Disney+ & more! Kelly and Mike nearly ruin a keyboard over Netflix's right-on-the-edge brand party; deep diving into the serialized TV experience versus the binge era.

Mike also apologizes for his mic this time.

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It's The Unofficial Barry Podcast… mostly! Kelly and Mike sing the praises of Anthony Carrigan (the hilarious Noho Hank on HBO's Barry), talk about Luna Display's new Mac to Mac mode, virtualizing Mojave to keep those 32-bit apps running in Catalina, commend the work of Alan Ruck as Sloane's dad's voice, Zach Honig's amazing shot of the aurora, and more.

This show was recorded a little while ago, so in our conversation about the Charles M Schulz Museum we did not have an opportunity to send our thoughts for those who are now affected by the Kinkade Fire. We hope that everyone in California who is displaced or in danger will be able to return home safely, soon.

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Hammering, anticipating, and the midlife crisis du jour. Happy iPhonemas! Mike mulls a new phone and Kelly recommends waiting a few days for iOS 13.1.

Mentioned: Describe app (thanks Chris Fuller!), Mowing Meter, and Mike can't remember Elaine Stritch so now "Ladies Who Lunch" is sung by Lady Elaine Fairchilde.

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The episode from limbo! Recorded in August, released in September (and happy birthday to Mike). Talking about the experience of sending teenagers (specifically Lulu) overseas, in spite of Doofus Tech Dad fouling stuff up.

We're still on Talkshoe, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Wayland Flowers & Madam, travel cell plans like the ones from TalkNSave, and getting the best a man can get. Also Mike is stuffy again.

Special shout-out to the fantastic service & support from MacSamurai Consulting!

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We've come down from our Macstock high, and we're running through the Portland tourist highlights (on a rough weekend for Portland).

Hot spots: OMSI, the Portland Art Museum, the Japanese Gardens, Vista House and Multnomah Falls.

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LIVE and recorded on an iPad from Macstock 2019 — so forgive the audio quality! Impromptu special guests Mike Potter and Chuck Joiner get dragged into the fun with Mike and Kelly. Be sure to check out Chuck's new podcast Trek Favorites.

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Multiple bionic Barbs, see you at Macstock Expo, and more! The NYC mini-blackout comes alive, noting the anniversary of the 1977 blackout, keep tabs on your camera and mic with Oversight (regarding the Zoom exploit), looking ahead to Westworld S3, and more!

HIGHLY RARE chance to see Kelly and Mike in the same physical location: Macstock2019, next weekend in Crystal Lake, IL! Come on down.

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Catching up post-WWDC. Honorable mention for Jim from Provue, iPhone production flexibility, & more.

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SPOILER ALERTS for Avengers: Endgame, if you haven't seen it already, you might want to skip this ep. Back when the Trailblazers were still in the playoffs… (The game we're discussing is the ridiculous Game 3 of the Portland-Denver series, which went to four overtimes.)

Mentioned: Incomparable Endgame, Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, Pockets or GTFO.

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Kelly heads to the movies (no spoilers). But NEXT episode will be chock-full of Avengers: Endgame spoilers, so be warned in advance! Basketball Jones (the ridiculous Damian Lillard), old long movies like Titanic, and constructive dehydration.

(Show was recorded at the end of the Portland/Denver series.)

Mentioned: the late Paul Allen, the Wyze camera.

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Rounding up the usual suspects: Game of Thrones, new keyboards, basketball and more.

Of note: The Matias keyboard, the new GoT opening credits, belated happy 4/20.

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Recorded before + published after the big Apple announcements, so try to remember a world before we knew about the sad fate of AirPower.

How to show your appreciation at the best karaoke bar in Las Vegas, Kelly suggests a song for our next lounge act, the Logitech Crayon as a Pencil alternative, and a pretty nice wireless keyboard. Also: Kelly gets a package!

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Captain Marvel reviews, Macstock previews, and App Camp love. Learn about the Macstock Film Festival on MacVoices. Plus a shoutout to Michael Simmons!

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Facebook privacy, SNL's inspiration, pangolins. Mike and Kelly are back! And our deepest apologies for posting the wrong audio file, we've fired our intern.

Mike notes that the SNL Regal Promenade Pavilion wedding venue ad has a history; here's the inspiration Grand Prospect Hall ads from back in the day, that Kelly describes as "weaponized 1986." #Brooklyn (You should go check it out)

More: the Mini-Mall rap ad! Kenan Thompson's amazing longevity! Taking sketchnotes by doodling! And True Facts about the Lemur! (The pangolin apparently has a similar gut biome to other ant-eating animals despite being evolutionarily distant from them, according to Ed Yong's great book I Contain Multitudes.)

Kelly recommends the Coleto pens and KuruToga mechanical pencil. Microcenter is still running the deal on the iPad Pro 11" model.

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Mike & Kelly are back — Deep diving into privacy, tabloid journalism, and which billionaires one should not challenge to a measuring contest. Our new mascot is Ice Zombie Cat, so watch out Montana.

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The Mac turns 35! First machine nostalgia with your favorite bicoastal hostals. In this episode, we learn a bit more about Mike's family, illegal scams, Kelly's immune system, other things celebrating anniversaries, and why nobody's come up with ButtMufflr.co yet.

  • Vancouver measles outbreak
  • The amazing Mike Doughty:
    • Thank You, Lord, For Sending Me The F Train
    • I Bought 49 Songs At 4 AM (see also the eerie 4 am TED Talk)
    • Soul Coughing's 25th anniversary album Ruby Vroom
  • Mike's mom on Amazon
  • Take This To Your Crib
  • 512Ke Fat Mac
  • Lanier word processor
  • PowerBook 1400

We'll be back in two weeks!

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Mike and Kelly are back in the saddle! Leaning into organizing, Core Audio Karaoke, Marie Kondo, backing through misdirected email, Macworld 2009, killing your subscriptions, and what to do about Flickr.

Special mentions: @jsnell, @jgamet, @ttscoff, @talkshoe and @kellyaucoin77

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Back in the saddle, and buried under a deluge of GDPR notifications. Mike & Kelly reveal that Kelly is going to WWDC and to Macstock!

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Catching up with Karaoke Kelly and No-Nickname Mike. Also, happy new year!

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Kelly's birthday, happy Twitter, and grappling with sexual harassment. Plus shout-outs!

Note that the show was recorded before Thanksgiving, so it's a little bit behind the news -- but sadly not all that much.

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Google product announcements, Kelly & Kelly plan to talk hoops, and more!

This week we lament at length the EOL of AIM, the original AOL chat app; preview Kelly and Kelly's Portland Trailblazers podcast, and more.

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Amazon's new Echos, Mike's struggle to create a birthday present for his wife, iOS 11 impressions, the pitch-perfect Avatar/Papyrus SNL sketch, and what is 4K, anyway? Shoutouts for this week are going to appear in a bonus episode because we got so caught up in the excitement, we forgot to get them done! (And by we, that means Mike forgot — Kelly was all over it.)

SPECIAL NOTE: Friend-of-the-show Javier Grillo-Marxuach is auctioning off some unique LOST memorabilia to support hurricane relief efforts in Puerto Rico. If you loved the show and you want to contribute to an important cause, check it out.

  • Tom Fruin's Watertower III
  • SNL's Papyrus sketch
  • The new Echo family and Echo Spot
  • Real or Fake 4K
  • The DJI Spark drone — the show photo was shot with the DJI Spark in HDR mode at Aquinnah, MA ©Mike Rose

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It's a long show, but it's worth it! Kelly's firefighter assistance + the rundown on Apple's big announcements. Shoutouts to Laurie Duncan, TJ Luoma & more. And for the record, Kelly totally called the technical explanation for FaceIDGate.

Check out iMazing from DigiDNA for your iOS backup and restore needs (not a sponsor, just cool).

Other coolness: The Impossible Project is now Polaroid Originals. Crazy.

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Wish we could be lighthearted, but it's a tough world out there. Tech equality & more -- recorded well before the weekend of 8/12.

  • Yonatan Zunger on Medium
  • Trailhead: Champion Equality
  • Salesforce Pay Equity
  • Broadway HD
  • Atomic Blonde
  • Spiderman: Homecoming

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Back to the streets! Mike & Kelly talk old apps, new hardware, ghosts in the Wi-Fi and App Camp.

  • App Camp for Girls
  • Transmit 5 by Panic
  • Netgear Orbi

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Part 2 of our very special episode with guest Kelly AuCoin! Trailblazer trivia, the fate of Pastor Tim, recommendations and more.

Our guest is Kelly AuCoin, actor and raconteur, who plays both Pastor Tim on FX's The Americans and "Dollar Bill" on Showtime's BILLIONS. He, like "OG Kelly" Guimont, is a Portland native and huge Trailblazers fan. (See his featured teaser for Game 3 of the playoffs here.)

Links from this episode:

  • Your Band Sucks
  • AudioTechnica ATR-2100USB

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An actual, legitimate VERY SPECIAL EPISODE featuring our first ever Aftershow guest, Kelly "The Other Kelly" AuCoin! #RipCity post-mortem, comic books, getting past the first chapter, and way more. Part 1 of a two-part episode.

Our special guest, Kelly AuCoin, is familiar to TV audiences for two striking -- and radically different -- featured roles on hit series. He plays Pastor Tim on FX's The Americans and "Dollar Bill" Stearn on Showtime's Billions. He also maintains a transcontinental obsession with his hometown Portland Trailblazers, insisting that Bill Walton is Pastor Tim's spirit animal and recording high-energy playoff telecast intros for the team.

Note for listeners: this ep has a slightly higher frequency of mature language than our average run rate, so be alert if you are in the car with your impressionable children.

Episode title namesake: Jusuf Nurkić

Links of note:

  • Josh Neufeld’s “A Few Perfect Hours” http://amzn.to/2q0tzqO
  • A.D. New Orleans After The Deluge http://amzn.to/2qBcL6L
  • Girl Through Glass http://amzn.to/2patA7v
  • Ernest Cline’s “Ready Player One” http://amzn.to/2pznpfS (the movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1677720/)
  • Gail Simone's Clean Room http://www.vertigocomics.com/comics/clean-room-2015/clean-room-1

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Welcome back, beloved listeners. We're sorry we've been away so long. MST3K, Sportsball in Rip City (hi Other Kelly!), AirPods, more podcasts, an obscure James song, Resistance charms, kvetch but act magnets by Laura Antoniou, and much more.

OLD TIMER ALERT: Today (April 26) is also the eighth anniversary of the first time EVER that Mike and Kelly were on a podcast together -- the TUAW Talkcast, episode 90, from way back in 2009. Listen to how young we sound -- especially over plain old telephone lines!

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Working out our yayas over November 8. Also, Mike's theater recommendations!

  • Falsettos
  • Dear Evan Hansen
  • Fiddler On The Roof

Kelly's recommendations:

  • Westworld
  • Sight Unseen/Man In The High Castle
  • This American Vote in Song
  • The Vote By Mail Act

Also, add your Representative to your phone!

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Scary Halloween names, the weirdness of the Surface Studio, and Kelly's existential dissatisfaction with the MacBook Pro announcements. Mike's rathole regarding the original Microsoft Surface.

(If you're wondering what we meant by Okudagrams -- well, follow the link.)

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Remembering Steve Jobs, on the fifth anniversary of his death. Kelly & Mike recall where they were when they heard the news (a hotel ballroom at Disney World). Also thinking about Siri, the iPhone 7 and more.

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Macstock! App Camp! And the nigh-suffocating summer heat. Plus, movie recommendations.

  • Macstock Expo
  • App Camp for Girls
  • Complete Unknown
  • Don't Think Twice
  • TYLT Energi 3K+ + 5-Port ENERGI Charging Station
  • Anker PowerCore+ Mini
  • Rey's Scrappy Salvage T-Shirt & Salvage Backpack

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This show marks a farewell to a couple of Mac mainstays: the retail operations of NYC reseller/superstore Tekserve (NYT coverage) and Apple news/commentary site MacNN. We wish them all the best.

More: Kelly's coverage of breach fatigue, the Computerworld "Mandela/mandala" article, and not-yet-a-sponsor Moko cases & charge packs.

You can find us on Twitter at @the_aftershow -- let us know what you think!

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The hay fevers have hit with a vengeance. Mike and Kelly consider hanging it up and churning butter for a living. Also we recorded this before the NBA Finals began.

  • Twitter account of the fortnight: Paul Ryan Gosling
  • Media

coverage of The Tempest in Central Park (NSFW) * Vera home automation

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Basketball jones, part deux. Mike's kids finally get new phones, and the App Camp For Girls family says goodbye to one of their own. Operations Manager Michelle Petruzzi, battling pancreatic cancer, passed away on April 29 2016.

If you're interested in donating in memory of Michelle, please check out Project POOCH or the App Camp donations page.

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Basketball jones, part I. Also fairy tale spoilers, Mike's move, and more.

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Cookie Monster pitches Siri, old encryption, and Kelly teases a new podcast! Plus a now sadly outdated but still intriguing discussion of Apple's battle with the FBI over encryption.

Mentioned:

  • http://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/16/apple-iphone-6s-ad-cookie-monster/
  • http://www.macrumors.com/2016/03/16/apple-icloud-google-cloud-platform/
  • http://jezebel.com/xena-will-be-gay-as-hell-in-upcoming-tv-reboot-1764811813
  • http://www.wired.com/2000/08/court-to-address-decss-t-shirt/
  • http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/index.html
  • http://www.wired.com/2016/03/epic-story-dropboxs-exodus-amazon-cloud-empire/

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Vacation time! Mike takes us to Disney World, with a detour to Universal Studios.

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Do you ever have deja vu, Mrs. Lancaster? This week, Mike and Kelly share their Groundhog Day favorites (including the New York Public Library's collection of viviparous quadrupeds and a quick cameo from White Collar's Willie Garson). Plus, did you ever get immunized against Pac-Man Fever? How about Dreamcastaires Disease? PONG SARS? We want to hear about your #GameConsoleMaladies on Twitter. Oh, and there's also some discussion of Apple and Alphabet financial results (hat tip to Farhad Manjoo).

Closing music via 8-Bit Classical. Recommended Twitter/Tumblr of the fortnight: @BatLabels. We could use a visit from the ANTI-LUNATIC SQUAD. Buy your HENCHMAN shirt!

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Kelly and Mike do a deep dive into USB audio interfaces, TUAW nostalgia, Macworld Expos past, and try to explain why people are famous to one another on the Internet.

Special guest mentions! Javier Grillo-Marxuach, Veronica Belmont and Naomi Novik. (Special guest mentions do not appear on the show in person.)

If you have a XLR->USB recommendation for Kelly (like the Blue Icicle) please tell Kelly!

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A little CES preview, a little Pacific Northwest weather, and Kelly's advice for visiting Disney theme parks. (Apologies for Mike's audio quality -- he may in fact have been using his iMac mic by mistake.)

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Our first annual gift guide! And everyone's stuffy again. Gifts and products linked below.

  • Shrinky Dinks and other custom inkjet paper
  • Photo gifts via Lesa Snider
  • How big can I print this
  • Jon Ronson's So You've Been Publicly Shamed
  • Small Scenes from a Big Galaxy
  • The Lego Architect
  • Nanoblock
  • Bloom County
  • Walt Disney Animation Studios Archives
  • Google Cardboard
  • EYETeleporter
  • Tom Bihn Synapse 19 backpack

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Mike finds out the perils of recording a podcast within earshot of an Amazon Echo. Also, first impressions of the new Apple TV. Plus, our first contest! "Lord UI Executioner": give us your best Gilbert and Sullivan Apple-themed parody song titles with the hashtag #AppleGandS. Best entries featured on a future show.

Here's the Star Wars/vaccinate your kids poster from Dan's Parents' House: -- we're waiting for Kelly to find the Sesame Street photo.

Bonus: after the show, we determined that Kelly had never seen the wonderfulness that is This Charming Charlie, the Peanuts + Morrissey/Smiths mashup Tumblr that is among the best things on the Internet. This week's show has a TCC comic as episode art; go check it out at http://thischarmingcharlie.tumblr.com/.

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The geek is strong with this one: Kelly delivers the two-thumbs-up verdict on her new iPhone 6S. Plus a visit to scenic Natural Scrolling Valley, how UX breadcrumbs don't actually do what they did in Hansel & Gretel, the secrets of 3D Touch ("it's like right-clicking for your phone!") and Mike's report from Dreamforce.

If you like the show, let us know! Our promise to you: we thank all iTunes reviewers by name.

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  • New Models of Apple Watch
  • New Models of Apple TV
  • New Models of iPhone
  • New iPad
  • New Apple Pencil

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Looking ahead to next week's big 9/9 event, plus some notes of community interest, and if you're in San Francisco the week of 9/14 be sure to stop at Dreamforce and say hi!

Mike and Kelly mull the possible Apple TV next-gen options. Other things we talked about:

  • Apple World Today's Patreon campaign
  • Javier Vilanova's RightStand for Apple Watch
  • Not-yet-a-sponsor MakeSpace -- $25 off if you

sign up with them, and be sure tell them you heard about them on The Aftershow!

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Diversity in tech, self-driving cars, lady Rangers and more. Plus updates from App Camp Portland!

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Summertime, and the podcasting is easy -- Kelly and Mike review the injured reserve list and look ahead to the fall tech-to-come.

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Kelly and Mike review their vacation travel, unpack the magic of Google Photos, talk about WWDC, the new TextExpander, and we found the Mystery Machine.

Of note:

  • Mike's discovery of the Mystery Machine
  • Scooby-Doo Mystery

Machine Tour * Oregon Caves National Monument, birthplace of

the Viewmaster * Oregon Caves Chateau * Google Photos * xkcd: Tasks * Flickr PARK or BIRD * Kelly's Say Anything

decal * Mike's photo of "food" * Smile's TextExpander 5 * Brett's JavaScript snippets for TE5

Please note that this episode was recorded before the tragic death of Katharine Chappell in South Africa.

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Lazy spring afternoons turn into bouts of technology chaos -- Mike and Kelly talk about organizing cables, their favorite other podcasts and more. Kelly's story on iTunes needing to be broken up can be found at The Mac Observer.

Products and goodies discussed on the show:

  • Monoprice HDMI 5-port switcher
  • Amazon Fire TV Stick
  • Brother P-Touch Label Printers
  • Logitech Harmony Remote
  • Clear rubber bands and Velcro cable ties on Amazon
  • The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up
  • You Look Nice Today
  • Restore your Apple TV with iTunes
  • Apple buys Coherent
  • YamaSho Restaurant & Karaoke
  • B.B. King

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Kelly and Mike dive into the current suite of "films" for the Apple Watch, and cover some of the other items of note. Yes, this ep took a week to edit and post because Mike was on vacation and bandwidth-constrained, he's terrible that way.

Notes:

  • The Apple Watch Films
  • App Camp for Girls Vancouver & Seattle now accepting

applications for July * The amazing Star Wars Vans * Strong Bad Emails * Orange Chef Sleeve for iPad (Amazon affiliate link)

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Considering the Microsoft Surface 3, getting the lowdown on the Apple Watch, and why the Spotify rathole will get you in the end.

Featuring:

  • The Surface 3 vs. iPad Air 2 marketing chart
  • Vitamin String

Quartet's Geek Wedding Collection * The Doubleclicks

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Mike and Kelly return to the mics and kellies, after a two-month hiatus. Why neither of them has an Apple Watch yet. Absolutely no comment on another stellar quarter for Apple (although, you know, get with the iPad buying program here people) or why they took such a long long break.

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A long, snuffly detour into self-indulgence as Mike and Kelly mourn the departure of TUAW.com with the occasional four-letter word. Seriously, it's a lot to take. Maybe split up your listening into multiple sessions. Anyway, Mike reminisces on all the wonder that was, general agreement on people who are really cool, and Kelly gets to try on a Leatherman Tread.

Oh, our show photo? That's Peter and Jeff making Kelly the filling in a Macworld Expo Manwich.

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Mike reports on the surprisingly unburied-in-snow status of his hometown, coining the term "Snowdenfreude." After reviewing New York City's brush with disaster, we move on to Apple's mindblowing quarter and the iPhone's revenue number alone in comparison to the yearly revenue of other companies. Finally we round things out with Kelly's take on the Superbowl and Deflategate.

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Functional high ground, scary synchronized smart bulbs, the rumored MacBook Air 12", and missing Macworld Expo. Kelly and Mike are back on track for their weekly high-context conversation, this time with a passable William Shatner impression.

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Reviewing the "functional gap" controversy on the Mac platform, and apologizing for being gone for so long!

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Mike and Kelly run down their gift ideas for the season, including:

  • Emergency power & radios from Eton
  • The precious Cord Taco from This Is Ground
  • Chargers from Anker
  • The Moshi Rewind
  • Lilitab's right angle Lightning cable
  • This Scosche cable
  • The wacky Native Union POP Desk set
  • Grovemade's desk accessories
  • Dirty Lion folk art

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Mike and Kelly discuss the big reveal from Apple's CEO, dig into the Apple Pay and MCX payment panorama, and cover the big pants news of the week (as in, "Does an iPhone 6 really fit in your pants?"). Includes ranting, mom drinks and discussion of breach fatigue, so listener beware.

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Mike's sneezes notwithstanding, Kelly predicts the Apple event outcomes. Mike talks Dreamforce and why it is awesome. And more!

WARNING: Includes fake Tuvan throat singing.

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Reviewing iPhone launch day, the Disneyland effect, and whether it is possible to sit down ever again. Plus special mentions of @panzer, @davehamilton, iFixit and Tekserve!

Note that this episode was recorded on 9/20, pre-Bendgate -- so Mike and Kelly's attention to the seating possibilities of the iPhone 6 Plus should be considered prescient.

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Impressions and astonishment following Apple's 9/9 event. iPhones and Apple Pay and WATCH, oh my! Kelly and Mike break it down for you all.

  • Apple event stream
  • Apple Pay
  • WATCH

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What is two-factor authentication, and why isn't it doing quite what we expect? Check out Mike's rundown on TUAW.com, and then listen to your favorite bicoastal nerds discuss how and why it might (or might not) have prevented the Stargate photo thefts. Plus we visit Kelly's House of Crackpot Theories in advance of Apple's Sept. 9 mega-event. Listen in!

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Mike and Kelly return to the podcasting tubes with the premiere episode of The Aftershow! Topics include App Camp for Girls, the social media reaction to Robin Williams' death and the crisis in Ferguson, MO, and some brief moments of levity.

Links:

  • App Camp for Girls
  • Codecademy
  • PixelPress
  • David Simon on Robin Williams
  • Zelda's Name