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Best Minds: Disrupting the Urban Doom Loop with Chris LeinbergerOctober 31, 2024

By Gregg Logan, Managing Director, RCLCO

How Can Cities Avoid the Urban Doom Loop?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO Managing Director, Gregg Logan, sits down with Christopher B. Leinberger — co-founder of Places Platform LLC and RCLCO Alumnus — to discuss Reimagining Cities: Disrupting the Urban Doom Loop, a recently released report from Cushman and Wakefield, in collaboration with Places Platform. The report puts 15 U.S. cities under the microscope to identify the real estate portfolios cities currently have versus what they need, given how much the economy has changed post-pandemic.

“We’re not saying to get out of the office business; we’re just saying build up the residential…people living within 2 miles of work are far more likely to come back to work–the worst thing people have in their life is a commute, that has always been viewed as the worst aspect of modern life. Getting the workers to live closer to their work is going to shore up office occupancy as well. There are all sorts of benefits to balancing the portfolio, but it is a balancing act. It’s not going all the way towards residential.”

– Chris on the continuing role of office in a healthy urban real estate portfolio.

One of the key findings of the study is that the real estate mix in many cities is no longer ideal for them to thrive: specifically, the study finds downtown real estate portfolios are too heavily weighted toward office space which is especially problematic in today’s economy. Chris and Gregg discuss the ramifications of this finding, and the report’s proposed strategies for cities to get back on track.

“We have found that it’s not a public private partnership that’s needed; it’s a private public partnership. All the research we’ve done has shown that every dollar of public money yields ten to 15 dollars of private money… I’m a great believer in both definitions of the Golden Rule, and the second definition is ‘he with the gold rules.’ So, if the private sector is going to bring in $15 for every one dollar of public… you better have the private sector take the lead.”

– Chris on the importance of the private sector when revitalizing downtowns

About Chris LeinbergerCo-Founding Partner and Managing Director Places Platform, LLC; Founding Partner of Arcadia Land Company.
Chris Leinberger is a land use strategist, proptech start-up co-founder, real estate developer, professor, researcher and author. He balances business realities with social and environmental issues. Leinberger was voted one of the “The 100 Most Influential Urbanists” of all time in a poll conducted by Planetizen in 2017.

Mr. Leinberger received a Bachelor of Arts degree from Swarthmore College, where he double majored in Political Science and Urban Sociology, and received an MBA from the Harvard Business School, concentrating in corporate strategic planning.

About Gregg LoganManaging Director, RCLCO

Gregg Logan is a Managing Director at RCLCO, with over 40 years of experience in the industry. His expertise spans residential and commercial real estate, with particular expertise on mixed-use developments and master planned communities that incorporate residential, retail, office, industrial and distribution space.

In addition to his work with RCLCO, Gregg previously worked with a real estate developer as well as served as an adjunct faculty member at several colleges and universities, where he taught courses in Real Estate Development Methods and Real Estate Economics. Gregg’s expertise has been recognized in numerous publications where he has been quoted, and he has been a speaker at many national and regional conferences. Gregg is a graduate of UCLA.

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Best Minds: Arturo SneiderSeptember 19, 2024

By Joshua A. Boren, Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives

How can one achieve success while maintaining a focus on community?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO’s Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives, Joshua Boren, sits down with Arturo Sneider, Co-Founder & CEO of Primestor, a minority-owned and led real estate developer and investment firm based in Culver City, CA, to discuss Arturo’s unique path to prominence in the real estate industry, from his childhood in Mexico City, and his early activism work in LA, to the founding of Primestor in 1992.

“It is central to our strategy and to my life’s work that we define profit broadly. To us, the definition of profit is community empowerment. It’s economic vitality to neighborhoods and residents. It’s laying a path for the young generations, and the next generations, to see that you can, in fact, invest in your own community and be an agent of change. And in these polarizing times, I think we’re reminded that if we’re not intentional in raising the tide for all boats, that things don’t normally end well, and it’s just not the right way to think about our society.”

– Arturo on the importance of community in his business

They discuss how Arturo’s background has shaped his career and his work today; how Primestor has grown and evolved over the last three decades; and his best advice for those coming up in the industry now.

“One thing that that I have never known is boredom. I don’t know what that feels like: I would never be able to say that I have a moment of boredom in my life.”

– Arturo on his day-to-day life

About Arturo SneiderCo-Founder & CEO of Primestor

Arturo Sneider is the founding partner and CEO of Primestor Development, where he is responsible for acquisitions, project inception and design, capital structuring, and corporate management. With a strong focus on underserved communities, Primestor’s diverse portfolio has maintained an approximate ninety-five percent occupancy rate across its dozens of projects. Primestor is currently developing approximately two million square feet of new space, managing nearly 3 million square feet in diverse minority markets, and overseeing a portfolio valued at approximately over $800 million dollars. Since 1990, Mr. Sneider has acquired and transacted dozens of properties and projects in CA, IL, NV, FL, TX and AZ totaling an aggregate cost basis of over one billion dollars. He is a member of YPO, a Board Member/Director of the LA County Capital Asset Leasing Corporation, and a member of the Executive Committee/Trustee of ICSC. Additionally, he has advised the City of LA’s Economic Development Department and served on the City of Los Angeles’ Development Industry Advisory Council. Born in Mexico City, Mr. Sneider resides in Los Angeles.

About Joshua BorenRCLCO Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives

Joshua A. Boren specializes in leading business development, marketing, and strategic initiatives for various real estate needs and solutions as part of the RCLCO team. With more than 15 years of experience, Joshua specializes in understanding how network building and relationship management is critical to organizational success, which has resulted in millions of dollars of closed engagements. At RCLCO, he has grown the business development and marketing departments, which were recognized by Globe St. in 2019 as “Influencers in Marketing”. Incredibly involved in the global real estate community, Joshua holds membership and leadership positions at Urban Land Institute Los Angeles and Jewish Federation Los Angeles’ Real Estate and Construction Division, among others. Joshua also hosts RCLCO’s monthly Round-Up Webinar Series, which dives into factors in the real estate market, in addition to other RCLCO events and features.

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Best Minds: Alliance Global AdvisorsMarch 19, 2024

By Taylor Mammen, CEO, RCLCO Fund Advisors

Partners with a Problem to Solve: What happens when two long-time friends and colleagues with 20 years of industry experience find a void in the marketplace?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, Taylor Mammen, CEO of RCLCO Fund Advisors, sits down with Heather Fernstrom Border and Jennifer Stevens, Co-Founders and Managing Partners at Alliance Global Advisors – a women-owned consulting firm focused on developing strategic growth solutions for real asset investment managers. Heather and Jennifer began Alliance in 2020, seeking to be an independent voice for the investment management community.

“What we were witnessing was that the investors and the consultants and the advisors had a very deep perspective, understanding, and amount of resources available to them at all times. But, when those managers needed to solicit advice, there wasn’t a true independent third party team that they could go to for those types of questions.”– Heather Fernstrom Border on the birth of Alliance Global Advisors

Heather and Jennifer also discuss how their 20 years of industry experience laid the foundation for this new venture, the challenges of launching a new business in April 2020, the power of their partnership in this entrepreneurial venture, and the mentors that have inspired them throughout their careers.

“For me, those were the people who would sit me in front of a boardroom and sit at the back of the boardroom and let me fail or let me just get grilled by a CIO or a board member on public record and then say ‘I have a lot of confidence in how you just handled that situation, here’s what I might have done differently.’”– Jennifer Stevens on the importance of mentors in her career

About Heather Fernstrom BorderCo-Founder and Managing Partner of Alliance Global Advisors

Heather Fernstrom Border is a versatile, performance-driven, real asset professional building deep Limited Partner and Consultant networks over nearly two decades.

Prior to forming Alliance, Heather was Managing Director for National Real Estate Advisors and held positions with Hunt Investment Management and The Townsend Group. At those firms, she was responsible for assisting institutional clients in developing investment objectives, strategic planning, underwriting investments and capital raising. Heather’s professional experience also includes seventeen years within the private and public real estate sector, where she developed, implemented and led Investor Relations platforms.

Throughout her career, she held memberships at the National Association of Office and Industrial Properties (NAIOP), Pension Real Estate Association (PREA) and Institutional Real Estate, Inc. (IREI) among others.   Heather continues to speak and moderate various panels on industry-wide topics and was recently asked to participate on PREA’s Governance Committee.  In 2022, Heather received the GlobeSt. Women of Influence award and the GlobeSt. Real Estate Forum’s 50 under 40 award.

About Jennifer StevensCo-Founder and Managing Partner of Alliance Global Advisors

Jennifer Stevens is an executive-level professional with real asset expertise and extensive knowledge of the General Partner & Limited Partner Universe.

Prior to forming Alliance Global Advisors, Jennifer spent sixteen years with The Townsend Group where she gained experience in institutional portfolio management and consulting, strategic and investment planning, real asset investment underwriting and a specialization in areas including ESG and industry best practice. Jen was the lead Portfolio Manager for Townsend’s West Coast client base and ran Townsend’s San Francisco office, including certain growth initiatives. She has experience in both portfolio management and underwriting and was responsible for developing and leading Townsend’s ESG efforts.

Jennifer has served as a representative member of the UN PRI, GRESB, PREA, PREA Foundation Diversity Working Group, IREI, WIIN and NCREIF in addition to speaking at numerous educational and industry events. In 2016, Jennifer Stevens received the inaugural GRESB Leadership Award from the U.S. Green Building Council to recognize her efforts in establishing and growing Townsend’s ESG Program. In 2019, Ms. Stevens was included on Chief Investment Officer’s annual list of the world’s most influential investment consultants. In 2021, Jennifer received the GlobeSt. Women of Influence award. In 2022, Jennifer was elected to the PREA Board of Directors and joined PREA’s Social Impact Committee.

About Taylor MammenCEO, RCLCO Fund Advisors (RFA)

Taylor Mammen is Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO Fund Advisors (RFA), which advises institutional investors on all aspects of their complex real estate investment portfolios, from strategy development to underwriting and asset management. Taylor helped pioneer this business beginning in the aftermath of the Global Financial Crisis, when several prominent pension funds turned to RFA with the goal to construct better performing and more resilient real estate portfolios, and has grown it to become a highly respected institutional real estate advisor, working with some of the largest and most dynamic institutional investors in the world. In the process, Taylor and RFA have sourced, underwritten, and overseen investments on behalf of clients well in excess of $10 billion. Taylor leads the firm’s institutional investor client relationships and is responsible for the firm’s growth and development, in addition to serving on the boards of clients’ portfolio companies.

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Partners with a Problem to Solve: What happens when two long-time friends and colleagues with 20 years of industry experience find a void in the marketplace?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, Taylor Mammen, CEO of RCLCO Fund Advisors, sits down with Heather Fernstrom Border and Jennifer Stevens, Co-Founders and Managing Partners at Alliance Global Advisors – a women-owned consulting firm focused on developing strategic growth solutions for real asset investment managers. Heather and Jennifer began Alliance in 2020, seeking to be an independent voice for the investment management community.

“What we were witnessing was that the investors and the consultants and the advisors had a very deep perspective, understanding, and amount of resources available to them at all times. But, when those managers needed to solicit advice, there wasn’t a true independent third party team that they could go to for those types of questions.”– Heather Fernstrom Border on the birth of Alliance Global Advisors

Heather and Jennifer also discuss how their 20 years of industry experience laid the foundation for this new venture, the challenges of launching a new business in April 2020, the power of their partnership in this entrepreneurial venture, and the mentors that have inspired them throughout their careers.

“For me, those were the people who would sit me in front of a boardroom and sit at the back of the boardroom and let me fail or let me just get grilled by a CIO or a board member on public record and then say ‘I have a lot of confidence in how you just handled that situation, here’s what I might have done differently.’”– Jennifer Stevens on the importance of mentors in her career

About Heather Fernstrom Border, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Alliance Global AdvisorsHeather Fernstrom Border is a versatile, performance-driven, real asset professional building deep Limited Partner and Consultant networks over nearly two decades.

Prior to forming Alliance, Heather was Managing Director for National Real Estate Advisors and held positions with Hunt Investment Management and The Townsend Group. At those firms, she was responsible for assisting institutional clients in developing investment objectives, strategic planning, underwriting investments and capital raising. Heather’s professional experience also includes seventeen years within the private and public real estate sector, where she developed, implemented and led Investor Relations platforms.

Throughout her career, she held memberships at the National Association of Office and Industrial Properties (NAIOP), Pension Real Estate Association (PREA) and Institutional Real Estate, Inc. (IREI) among others.   Heather continues to speak and moderate various panels on industry-wide topics and was recently asked to participate on PREA’s Governance Committee.  In 2022, Heather received the GlobeSt. Women of Influence award and the GlobeSt. Real Estate Forum’s 50 under 40 award.

About Jennifer Stevens, Co-Founder and Managing Partner of Alliance Global AdvisorsJennifer Stevens is an executive-level professional with real asset expertise and extensive knowledge of the General Partner & Limited Partner Universe.

Prior to forming Alliance Global Advisors, Jennifer spent sixteen years with The Townsend Group where she gained experience in institutional portfolio management and consulting, strategic and investment planning, real asset investment underwriting and a specialization in areas including ESG and industry best practice. Jen was the lead Portfolio Manager for Townsend’s West Coast client base and ran Townsend’s San Francisco office, including certain growth initiatives. She has experience in both portfolio management and underwriting and was responsible for developing and leading Townsend’s ESG efforts.

Jennifer has served as a representative member of the UN PRI, GRESB, PREA, PREA Foundation Diversity Working Group, IREI, WIIN and NCREIF in addition to speaking at numerous educational and industry events. In 2016, Jennifer Stevens received the inaugural GRESB Leadership Award from the U.S. Green Building Council to recognize her efforts in establishing and growing Townsend’s ESG Program. In 2019, Ms. Stevens was included on Chief Investment Officer’s annual list of the world’s most influential investment consultants. In 2021, Jennifer received the GlobeSt. Women of Influence award. In 2022, Jennifer was elected to the PREA Board of Directors and joined PREA’s Social Impact Committee.

About Taylor Mammen, CEO, RCLCO Fund Advisors (RFA)Taylor Mammen is Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO Fund Advisors (RFA), which advises institutional investors on all aspects of their complex real estate investment portfolios, from strategy development to underwriting and asset management. Taylor helped pioneer this business beginning in the aftermath of the Global Financial Crisis, when several prominent pension funds turned to RFA with the goal to construct better performing and more resilient real estate portfolios, and has grown it to become a highly respected institutional real estate advisor, working with some of the largest and most dynamic institutional investors in the world. In the process, Taylor and RFA have sourced, underwritten, and overseen investments on behalf of clients well in excess of $10 billion. Taylor leads the firm’s institutional investor client relationships and is responsible for the firm’s growth and development, in addition to serving on the boards of clients’ portfolio companies.

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What happens when the public and private sectors join forces to revitalize an iconic retail anchor and the surrounding downtown?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO’s Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives, Joshua Boren, sits down with Shelley Brindle, Mayor of Westfield, New Jersey and Doug Adams, Senior Vice President, Development at Streetworks Development, to discuss the “One Westfield Place” redevelopment project—an adaptive reuse of a former Lord & Taylor building and its adjacent parking lots—that is poised to create a vibrant mixed-use downtown, with new office, retail, and residential.

“One of the hallmarks of Streetworks is we look – always start with a larger context and how does the property or the project fit into that larger picture.”– Doug on the importance of local context

They discuss the history and background of the project, the unique challenges and surprising benefits of repurposing large-scale retail into new office space, how the Mayor’s background at HBO as a Executive Vice President, Domestic Network Distribution and Marketing, helped prepare her for the public sector, and how they worked to incorporate resident input throughout the process.

“I would just say to any of your listeners who are developers: don’t be afraid of the public input. It only helps you get people invested in the success of the project and ultimately helps you with approvals.”– Mayor Brindle on public feedback and collaboration

About Shelley Brindle, Mayor of Westfield, NJShelley Brindle is currently the Mayor of Westfield, NJ, (pop 31k) elected as the first female Mayor in town history in November 2017, unseating a three term incumbent with her vision for transforming and reimagining Westfield’s historic downtown. Previously, she served as Executive Vice President, Domestic Network Distribution and Marketing at HBO where she was responsible for the revenue, marketing, and overall distribution and growth strategy of HBO’s $4.4B domestic subscription business where she oversaw many of HBO’s most important initiatives, including the launch of HBO’s first streaming service.

About Doug Adams, Senior Vice President, DevelopmentFollowing a passion for real estate Doug Adams followed a path from banking and equity lending to being a developer for the past 25 years. Working for both large and small companies, he has developed an expertise in large scale entitlements and public-private partnerships in most asset classes.

About Joshua Boren, Managing Director, Strategic InitiativesJoshua A. Boren specializes in leading business development, marketing, and strategic initiatives for various real estate needs and solutions as part of the RCLCO team. With more than 15 years of experience, Joshua specializes in understanding how network building and relationship management is critical to organizational success, which has resulted in millions of dollars of closed engagements. At RCLCO, he has grown the business development and marketing departments, which were recognized by Globe St. in 2019 as “Influencers in Marketing”. Incredibly involved in the global real estate community, Joshua holds membership and leadership positions at Urban Land Institute Los Angeles and Jewish Federation Los Angeles’ Real Estate and Construction Division, among others. Joshua also hosts RCLCO’s monthly Round-Up Webinar Series, which dives into factors in the real estate market, in addition to other RCLCO events and features.

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How can you grow and foster talent within real estate organizations?RCLCO announced its partnership with CEL Compensation Advisors, LLC to expand and enhance its industry-leading talent management practice, building on the CEL annual Real Estate Compensation & Benefits Survey and its compensation consulting practice.

In this special episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, listen to the recent webinar where leaders of the new partnership, Eric Willett, Adam Ducker, Ellen Klasson, and Jim Wright, discussed challenges real estate companies are facing today regarding talent management, trends in employee and executive compensation, and answered questions from the audience.

“…the two top of mind issues for people managing real estate organizations for 2024…will be optimizing NOI at the property level and maximizing talent within the organization.”– Adam Ducker speaking on the broad consensus of topics raised that management in real estate organization have for the coming year

“The importance of talent development is going to become particularly more acute and it’s really exacerbated by all these shifts in how we work.”– Eric Willett’s observation on talent expectations

View the full webinar and access the slide deck by logging into your RCLCO web portal account, or by filling out the form to the right of the webinar page and following the “watch” link that appears.

About Eric Willett, Managing Director, Management ConsultingEric Willett is the Managing Director of RCLCO’s management consulting practice. Eric works with a wide variety of market-leading firms throughout the real estate industry to craft and execute organizational strategy, portfolio transformation, and corporate growth initiatives. Eric brings extensive experience in strategic planning and organizational improvement to projects that interface with client teams at all points in the development lifecycle. His collaboration with executive teams has resulted in transformational strategies for real estate companies across all industry sectors and a range of global markets.

More broadly, Eric regularly contributes innovative client-focused research and solutions across industry topics including risk management, alternative investment structures, and evolving consumer demographics. He is a frequent speaker and panelist at industry events and is regularly cited as a commercial real estate expert by national and regional media including The Los Angeles Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, and others. In addition, Eric is adjunct professor of Business Economics at the University of Southern California Marshall School of Business where he leads a course on commercial real estate strategy.

Eric previously worked as the Director of Research and Thought Leadership at CBRE, where he oversaw the delivery of forward-looking insights spanning all major property sectors. Eric graduated magna cum laude from Yale University with a Bachelor of Arts in Economics.

About Adam Ducker, CEOAdam Ducker is Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO and oversees the firm’s Real Estate Economics and Management Consulting Practices. Adam joined RCLCO in the mid-1990s as an associate directly after graduate school and learned the trade with the firm. He is a recognized expert in strategic planning for real estate companies, investment analysis, market and financial analysis, and marketing of real estate assets. He has particular depth of expertise in high-density housing, retail/entertainment, and hotel development.

Adam is a member of the Executive Committee of RCLCO, which manages shared resources and oversees overall company strategy. He also sits on the board of the RCLCO Foundation.

Adam is a frequent speaker on topics ranging from place-making, urban redevelopment, retail trends, and in-town housing. His writing has been widely published and quoted in publications such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Urban Land, Real Assets, among others. He is an active member of the Urban Land Institute (ULI), vice chair of the Redevelopment and Reuse Council, and a board member of the Terwilliger Center for Housing. A native of the New York metropolitan area, Adam received Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from Columbia University.

About Ellen Klasson, Managing Director, Executive SearchEllen Klasson is a Managing Director in RCLCO’s Management Consulting practice, working out of the Washington, DC office. Ellen leads executive search engagements for leadership roles at development, investment, and land use companies across all asset classes. Ellen’s consultative nature has enabled her to identify and attract talent for both traditional and nuanced roles, and her deep understanding of the business lends itself to a more analytical approach of a candidate’s viability. Working for twenty years in the real estate industry has allowed Ellen to forge long-lasting relationships with and earn the trust of both clients and candidates.

Before joining RCLCO, Ellen spent five years as a Managing Director at Terra Search Partners, a national boutique executive search firm focused exclusively on the real estate industry. Previously she worked at the Urban Land Institute as the Senior Director of Leadership, overseeing the leadership programs for the organization’s 40,000 members worldwide. Prior to joining ULI, Ellen co-directed CohnReznick’s Real Estate Development Advisory practice, analyzing real estate opportunities for developers and municipalities. She is also a former Vice President of Economic Development at Central Atlanta Progress, where she attracted new investment into Downtown Atlanta. She began her career consulting to developers while a project manager at RCLCO.

Ellen continues to be actively involved with the Urban Land Institute. She is the Past Chair of the Americas of its Women’s Leadership Initiative and now serves as Governance Chair. She is also DEI Chair of the Urban Revitalization Council (Gold Flight) and a Management Committee member of ULI Washington. She volunteers with UrbanPlan, a program for high school and college students that introduces them to the complex trade-offs of real estate development.

Ellen earned a Bachelor of Arts degree from Emory University and a Master of City & Regional Planning from the Georgia Institute of Technology.

About Jim Wright, Managing Director, Compensation ConsultingAs Managing Partner – CEL Compensation Advisors, Jim Wright brings over 35 years of experience in all sectors of the real estate industry stemming from an Executive career encompassing engineering, finance, management consulting, financial restructuring, project management, and business development in private and public sector environments. Mr. Wright has provided insightful and valuable management counsel to corporate CEOs, Senior Management, Boards of Directors, Investors, Advisors and their intermediaries.

Jim has particular expertise and is a nationally known leader in the area of executive compensation program design, plan structuring, market benchmarking, and policy for the real estate industry. Mr. Wright works with Compensation Committees, Boards of Directors, CEOs and Senior Management on a variety of compensation, performance, management, and governance related issues. His career has involved assignments with over 300 clients including public/private REITs, national/regional development companies, investment management firms, private equity funds, national/global brokerage/service firms, and advisors in all sectors of commercial and residential real estate.

Jim has proven strategic, analytical, operational, organizational and management skills in creating, directing and implementing successful business solutions to challenging and complex company issues. Jim has an MBA from Case Western Reserve University; an MA (Economics) from the State University of New York; and a BS from Bradley University. Jim is the author of articles published in Real Estate Portfolio, Boards & Directors, Real Estate Review, Urban Land, Units, and other real estate publications.

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How does academia set the course for the future of real estate?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO’s CEO, Adam Ducker, sits down with Ellen Dunham-Jones, a Professor of Architecture at the Georgia Institute of Technology and director of the MS in Urban Design.

An award winning co-author of two books, Case Studies in Retrofitting Suburbia: Urban Design Strategies for Urgent Challenges (2021) and Retrofitting Suburbia: Urban Design Solutions for Redesigning Suburbs, (2009) as well as the podcast host of REDESIGNING CITIES, Ellen gives us academic perspective on what it means to be an urbanist and the future of real estate practitioners.

“The biggest difference between urban planning and urban design is that urban designers draw a lot. Most urban planners in the U.S….do great analytical research, they write papers, they do a lot of community engagement…but it’s not drawing the actual layout of neighborhoods…and really integrating at that larger scale.”– Ellen on the main difference of urban planning vs. urban design

In addition, the Adam and Ellen discuss retrofitting suburbia and what the suburbs represent in the current real estate market space.

“…the supply of sites that are ripe for some kind of retrofitting just keeps growing.”– Ellen’s optimistic outlook on re-imagining suburbia

About Ellen Dunham-JonesEllen Dunham-Jones is a professor of architecture and directs the MS in Urban Design at the Georgia Institute of Technology. An authority on sustainable suburban redevelopment, she maintains a unique database of over 2,500 suburban retrofits, hosts the REDESIGNING CITIES podcast series, was Architectural Record’s 2018-19 Woman Educator of the year and was recognized in 2023 and 2017 by Planetizen as one of the 100 most influential urbanists.

She is co-author with June Williamson of two award-winning books: Case Studies in Retrofitting Suburbia: Urban Strategies for Urgent Challenges (Wiley, 2021) received the Place Book of the year award from the Environmental Design Research Association. And Retrofitting Suburbia: Urban Design Solutions for Redesigning Suburbs, (Wiley, 2009, 2011, Mandarin 2013) received a PROSE award as best architecture and planning book of 2009. These books document how successful retrofits of aging shopping centers, strip mall corridors, office parks, etc. are helping their communities disrupt automobile dependence, improve public health, support an aging population, leverage social capital for equity, compete for jobs, and add water and energy resilience. The work has been featured in The New York Times, Harvard Business Review, PBS, NPR, TED and other prominent venues.

She is a Fellow of the Congress for the New Urbanism as well as the Brook Byers Institute of Sustainable Systems, lectures widely, and conducts workshops and research on the many co-benefits of retrofitting – as well as on the potential urban design impacts of autonomous vehicles. She serves on several national committees, has BS and M.Arch degrees from Princeton University, practiced architecture for 20 years, and taught at UVA and MIT before being recruited to direct the Architecture Program at Georgia Tech in 2000.

About Adam Ducker, CEO, RCLCOAdam Ducker is Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO and oversees the firm’s Real Estate Economics and Management Consulting Practices. Adam joined RCLCO in the mid-1990s as an associate directly after graduate school and learned the trade with the firm. He is a recognized expert in strategic planning for real estate companies, investment analysis, market and financial analysis, and marketing of real estate assets. He has particular depth of expertise in high-density housing, retail/entertainment, and hotel development.

Adam is a member of the Executive Committee of RCLCO, which manages shared resources and oversees overall company strategy. He also sits on the board of the RCLCO Foundation.

Adam is a frequent speaker on topics ranging from place-making, urban redevelopment, retail trends, and in-town housing. His writing has been widely published and quoted in publications such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Urban Land, Real Assets, among others. He is an active member of the Urban Land Institute (ULI), vice chair of the Redevelopment and Reuse Council, and a board member of the Terwilliger Center for Housing. A native of the New York metropolitan area, Adam received Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from Columbia University.

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What sets mountain resorts apart from other mixed-use resorts?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO’s CEO, Adam Ducker, sits down with Jon Paul “JP” Testwuide and Andrew Lang of Alterra Mountain Company, a curator of a family of destinations including recreation, hospitality, real-estate development, food and beverage, and retail businesses.

The group discusses Alterra Mountain Company’s positioning in the mountain resort market and the strategies leading to their successes at Winter Park Resorts and Steamboat Springs in Colorado. A particular focus includes Alterra’s strategic planning of the mixed-use base villages that emphasizes creative placemaking providing for a great guest experience.

“We have the hat of an operator and the hat of a developer.”– Andrew Lang on Alterra’s charter

In addition, the group discusses trends in mountain resorts from the last 10 years including how the rise and falls have impacted the market and what the future holds.

Alterra prioritizes its resort operations, and in doing so they recognize that fostering good culture, providing great recreational and entertainment opportunities and maintaining a strong resort identity is paramount to success.

“How do we create the asset that speaks to where the place is and how do we define that in connection with the resort and guest experience at the top of mind?”– JP Testwuide on what to ask when considering how to best create a successful resort with guest satisfaction in mind

About Jon Paul “JP” Testwuide, Director of Development, Alterra Mountain CompanyJon Paul Testwuide serves as the Director of Development for Alterra Mountain Company. Mr. Testwuide leads development related activities for select resorts to grow and scale. Major initiatives include master land planning, entitlement pursuits, repositioning of existing assets, land acquisitions and dispositions, and horizontal and vertical development in resort product types. Prior to AMC, Jon Paul spent 5 years at KSL Capital Partners, a Denver based private equity firm with nearly $10 billion in assets under management, where he was responsible for leading large capital projects and repositioning’s within the hospitality space. He graduated from the University of Denver with a concentration in Real Estate & Finance. During his time at DU he played D-1 hockey for the Pioneers.

About Andrew Lang, Vice President of Strategic Planning and Development, Alterra Mountain CompanyAndrew Lang serves as the Vice President of Strategic Planning and Development for Alterra Mountain Company and are part of the Financial Strategy team within the Finance Department. In addition, since 2013, Andrew has been a Co-founder and Partner at HLR Group, Inc., an investment management and holdings company dedicated to capital growth via applied statistical methods and factor-based investing across a range of assets. Prior to AMC, he spent a year at Genworth Financial as a Senior Manager. Andrew is an alumni from Liberty University in Lynchburg, VA and is currently based in Denver, CO.

About Adam Ducker, CEO, RCLCOAdam Ducker is Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO and oversees the firm’s Real Estate Economics and Management Consulting Practices. Adam joined RCLCO in the mid-1990s as an associate directly after graduate school and learned the trade with the firm. He is a recognized expert in strategic planning for real estate companies, investment analysis, market and financial analysis, and marketing of real estate assets. He has particular depth of expertise in high-density housing, retail/entertainment, and hotel development.

Adam is a member of the Executive Committee of RCLCO, which manages shared resources and oversees overall company strategy. He also sits on the board of the RCLCO Foundation.

Adam is a frequent speaker on topics ranging from place-making, urban redevelopment, retail trends, and in-town housing. His writing has been widely published and quoted in publications such as The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Urban Land, Real Assets, among others. He is an active member of the Urban Land Institute (ULI), vice chair of the Redevelopment and Reuse Council, and a board member of the Terwilliger Center for Housing. A native of the New York metropolitan area, Adam received Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from Columbia University.

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How can intellectual curiosity pave the way to success?In this episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, RCLCO’s Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives, Joshua Boren, sits down with the President of Biederman Redevelopment Ventures, Bryant Park Corp., and 34th Street Partnership Dan Biederman, a trailblazer in urban planning and development, whose Bryant Park’s restoration is used as a case study to many in the industry for those looking to make change at the community level.

In addition to discussing Dan’s career overview into real estate and past and future projects, the pair discuss how family plays a role into shaping career pathways and run ins with historical figures like American publisher and philanthropist Enid Haupt, David Rockefeller and Andrew Heiskell.

“I only have two strengths. I’m not smarter than everybody else [but] I have discipline and intellectual curiosity.”– Dan Biederman on his strengths contributing to his successful out-of-the-box thinking

About Dan Biederman, President of Biederman Redevelopment Ventures, Bryant Park Corp., & 34th Street PartnershipDan Biederman began his career creating real estate value in New York, where he founded Bryant Park Corporation, the nation’s most successful park privatization effort, in 1980. He then set up the country’s largest complex of Business Improvement Districts: Grand Central Partnership (1985) and 34th Partnership (1989).

During his career, through these and other entities, he has revived or built twelve privately-funded and managed urban parks and turned around five troubled neighborhoods, eliminating thousands of annual crimes, and creating directly 2,500 jobs and over $10 billion in real estate value.

His consulting firm, Biederman Redevelopment Ventures Corp. (BRV), has represented many of the nation’s largest office, retail, and residential developers and owners on public space work, in 30 states and nine countries. Among the professional sports franchises that BRV has helped with place-making are three NFL teams (Jets, Packers, and Falcons), and the San Francisco Giants (in their Mission Rock development with Tishman Speyer).

He graduated from Princeton’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public Affairs, magnum cum laude, in 1975, and from the Harvard Business School with distinction in 1977.

About Joshua A. Boren, Managing Director, Strategic Initiatives of RCLCO Real Estate ConsultingJoshua A. Boren specializes in leading business development, marketing, and strategic initiatives for various real estate needs and solutions as part of the RCLCO team. With more than 15 years of experience, Joshua specializes in understanding how network building and relationship management is critical to organizational success, which has resulted in millions of dollars of closed engagements. At RCLCO, he has grown the business development and marketing departments, which were recognized by Globe St. in 2019 as “Influencers in Marketing”. Incredibly involved in the global real estate community, Joshua holds membership and leadership positions at Urban Land Institute Los Angeles and Jewish Federation Los Angeles’ Real Estate and Construction Division, among others. Joshua also hosts RCLCO’s monthly Round-Up Webinar Series, which dives into factors in the real estate market, in addition to other RCLCO events and features.

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In this Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate podcast episode, RCLCO Fund Advisors' CEO Taylor Mammen interviews the founder and managing partner of Park Madison Partners, Nancy Lashine

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In this podcast RCLCO interviews CEO of 2HSQ Robert Seldin, who is the US Patent Inventor for the proprietary 2HSQ live/work building conversion and construction method and apartment operating system.

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In this podcast RCLCO interviews CalSTRS' Investment Director of Sustainable Investment & Stewardship Strategies and Portfolio Manager responsible for residential assets.

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In this podcast RCLCO interviews Bell Partners' President and CEO, Lili Dunn, discussing her career journey, how as the new CEO she is positioning Bell Partners for success, and her five pieces of advice for people breaking into the industry.

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In this podcast RCLCO welcomes Ellen Klasson to the firm, discussing her 20-year career journey, experience as a female leader in real estate, and insights into executive recruiting.

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Managing Director Joshua Boren speaks with Alliant Strategic Development Co-Founder & CEO, Eddie Lorin, about his personal  journey, including how an orphaned 17 year old became the co-founder of a multifamily real estate investment firm, as well as his passionate mission to increase affordable and workforce housing across the country.

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Managing Director Eric Willett speaks with Centerspace’s Chief Operating Officer, Anne Olson, about growing up on a farm before starting a career as a lawyer. Olson discusses the value proposition that Centerspace is providing in their selected markets and addresses how the firm is creating the internal infrastructure to support increasingly critical ESG efforts.

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Managing Director Joshua Boren speaks with NewMark Merrill Companies’ President & Chief Executive Officer, Sandy Sigal, about how learning computer programming at a young age led to a career in real estate. He also addresses the remarkable resiliency of consumer demand for in-store retail experiences, especially within the context of the rapid growth of e-commerce and the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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In this special episode of Conversations with the Best Minds in Real Estate, Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO Fund Advisors, Taylor Mammen, speaks with Adam Ducker, Chief Executive Officer of RCLCO, about the state of the market, how RCLCO is helping clients respond, and what real estate practitioners can expect for 2022.

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The big stories and macro-trends that every real estate company needs to be embracing.

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Principal Kelly Mangold speaks with Torti Gallas + Partners’ Principal, Brian O’Looney, about starting a career as an intern for the legendary architect Cesar Pelli and choosing architectural design as an alternative to an automotive design career. O’Looney discusses the process of writing his book, Increments of Neighborhood: A Compendium of Built Types for Walkable and Vibrant Communities, and RCLCO’s contribution of original research and analysis.

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Managing Director Joshua Boren speaks with United Soccer League’s Global Chair/Founder, Justin Papadakis, about starting a career working for real estate companies before transitioning to join the “family business” of USL. Papadakis discusses the changing landscape of live entertainment, the impacts on stadium and venue design, and how USL responds to these long-term trends. He addresses the complexity of stadium deals and the importance of creating partnerships with local communities across the municipal, business, and philanthropic sectors throughout the U.S.

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Chief Executive Officer Adam Ducker speaks with Populous’ Global Chair/Founder, Earl Santee, about what’s next in the decade ahead for venue development. Santee discusses Populous’ history of planning and designing Olympic venues through collaboration with local and international Olympics committees. He addresses the potential urbanizing impacts of venue development on surrounding neighborhoods and delves into how his firm has adapted to the challenges of the hybrid work model in an international context.

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Managing Director Todd LaRue speaks with Cecilian Partners’ CEO & Co-Founder, John Cecilian, Jr. about his personal career journey and thoughts on the evolving homebuilding industry. Cecilian Jr. discusses beginning his career in retail before transitioning to the “family business” of real estate, and what lessons he learned that gave a unique perspective into that industry switch. He addresses the importance of equally prioritizing work, family, and self to create balance and grow as a person and leader, and delves into the issues that businesses are facing as digital transformation brings more technology into the daily work of the real estate industry.

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Managing Director Todd LaRue speaks with Convergence Investments’ Founder & Managing Partner, Colby Cox. Cox discusses his unique professional work history, starting the company at age 22 after finishing his undergraduate degree, falling in love with the pace and momentum of real estate dealmaking, and how he balances risk-taking between personal endeavors (such as paragliding and snowboarding) with the professional risk management of real estate development.

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RFA CEO Taylor Mammen speaks with Pyramid Hotel Group’s President & CEO, Warren Fields. Fields discusses his career journey, from entering the workforce at Wendy’s, and going to Cornell. He addresses what operators and investors of other property types can learn about running a business from the hotel sector, and how traditional expectations about qualifications needed to succeed are changing throughout the industry.

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RCLCO’s Chief Executive Officer, Adam Ducker, speaks with Terwilliger Pappas’ CEO, Peter Pappas. Pappas discusses growing up in Charlotte, South Carolina, starting a real estate career with The Bissell Companies, creating a business vision based on the broad long-term evolution of urban markets, and leading the industry in the shift to focus on the opportunities to take sophisticated mixed-use product to suburban markets.

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RCLCO’s Chief Executive Officer, Adam Ducker, speaks with Pellas Development’s Chief Executive Officer, Carlos Hernandez, about the beginnings of Carlos’ career in real estate starting with growing up in Mexico and working as a construction manager, the unique impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic within Central America real estate markets, and the story of the primary housing market performance in the region throughout the most recent real estate cycle.

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In this special episode, hear key insights from nine real estate leaders as we look back at how our Best Minds cohort adapts to shifting market dynamics in the past, present, and future. Hosted by Managing Director of Strategic Initiatives, Joshua Boren.

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RCLCO Real Estate Advisors, announced today that after leading the firm for 40 years, CEO Gadi Kaufmann has transitioned to the role of Chairman, promoting long-term colleagues and fellow members of the Executive Committee, Taylor Mammen and Adam Ducker to CEOs of RCLCO’s business units.

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RCLCO’s Director of Business Development, Joshua A. Boren, speaks with George Smith Partners’ Principal & Co-Founder, Gary E. Mozer, about managing expectations during this period of market uncertainty as transaction volume has slowed; his strategies for successfully balancing work, home, and community life; and the importance of mentoring the next generation of real estate practitioners through ULI and other professional organizations.

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How is Avalon Bay changing their business model to respond to the challenges and opportunities of 2020 and beyond? In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Charles A. Hewlett, speaks with AvalonBay Communities’ SVP of Strategic Initiatives, Karen Hollinger, about her career journey from overseas consulting to domestic real estate, how automation and PropTech is disrupting the multifamily sector, and the impact of the pandemic on the rental apartment industry. She also describes how technology has made it possible to lower operating costs at AvalonBay’s newest concept community, Kanso Twinbrook. “Given the influx of capital from the venture capital space, and just PropTech in general exploding, there’s a lot of ways you can mimic an institutional player.” – Karen Hollinger

About Karen Hollinger & AvalonBay Communities Karen Hollinger is Senior Vice President, Strategic Initiatives at AvalonBay Communities and is responsible for leading large strategic corporate initiatives. She also is point on innovation initiatives and for venture-capital investment. She is considered an expert in the multifamily industry, especially in matters related to “PropTech” and technology, and has spoken frequently in the industry. AvalonBay Communities, Inc., an equity REIT, has a long-term track record of developing, redeveloping, acquiring and managing distinctive apartment homes in some of the best U.S. markets, and delivering outsized, risk-adjusted returns to shareholders. With equal parts experience and vision, they’ve established a leadership position rooted in building value for the long term.

About Charles A. Hewlett & RCLCO Charles A. Hewlett is a Managing Director based out of the Washington, DC office. He has over 25 years of real estate consulting experience and has advised on commercial and residential properties in most major metropolitan regions. His areas of specialization include corporate, portfolio, and asset-level strategic planning; economic, market, financial feasibility and metropolitan development trend analyses; as well as litigation consulting. Charles has written articles published in the Corridor Real Estate Journal, UrbanLand, and publications of the National Multi Housing Council. He is the author of Strategy Planning for Real Estate Companies. RCLCO is proud to be the “first call” for real estate developers, investors, the public sector, and non-real estate organizations seeking strategic and tactical advice regarding property investment, planning, and development. RCLCO leverages quantitative analytics and a strategic planning framework to provide end-to-end business planning and implementation solutions at an entity, portfolio, or project level.

Topics in this episode include:

How the AvalonBay family is faring during COVID-19 The biggest challenges of the pandemic and the surprising upsides The lasting impacts of this pandemic on the rental apartment industry and what the post-COVID “new normal” will look like What AvalonBay is doing to change the business model to respond to these challenges and opportunities The impact of technology on real estate over the course of Karen’s career and predicted future impacts How AvalonBay is automating the sales and leasing process, including their new concept community, Kanso Twinbrook How AvalonBay thinks about data as a strategic edge to think about development decisions How the influx of venture capital funds in the “Proptech” space impacts multifamily operations beyond the largest institutional competitors The impact of newer leading-edge technologies, such as artificial intelligence and robotics, could impact real estate The people and resources that have been most valuable over Karen’s career

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Todd LaRue, speaks with Legacy International CEO, Philip Jalufka, about the process of selecting the right developers and projects to work with; the strategy behind creating a vertically-integrated capital deployment arm of the business; and how Legacy International has responded to COVID-19 through enhanced communication and a full embrace of the digital transformationthat is fundamentally changing the business world.

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RCLCO Fund Advisors Managing Director, Cyndi Thomas, speaks with East West Partners Managing Partner, Amy Cara, about migrating to real estate after studying finance and accounting; the balancing act of maintaining stewardship of the land, investors, and the community-at-large; and how to determine alignment for potential partnerships.

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In this episode, RCLCO Senior Managing Director, Taylor Mammen, speaks with Oregon State Treasury Senior Real Estate Investment Officer, Anthony Breault, about how leadership-intensive military experience built the skills needed for a real estate career, the challenge of creating rigorous investment processes while being flexible enough to respond to market conditions, and creating a culture that emphasizes fiduciary responsibility.

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In this episode, RCLCO Senior Managing Director, Taylor Mammen, speaks with 3650 Capital Managing Partners and Co-Founders, Justin Kennedy and Jonathan Roth, about coming up in the real estate industry among the backdrop of the industry’s RTC era in the 1990s, how that crisis, among others, set the stage for Jonathan and Justin’s careers, and lessons learned about equity investing from a lender's position.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Charles A. Hewlett, speaks with Bell Partners Chief Operating Officer, Cindy Clare, about “falling into” a career in real estate; personal stories regarding the importance of communication and relationship-building; the challenges of onboarding new people and properties remotely during COVID-19; and her take on the rise of single-family rentals.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Gregg Logan, speaks with H. J. Russell & Company President, H. Jerome Russell, about starting a career in real estate as a project manager for a $5M development, how to prioritize “doing well, while doing good”, and what H.J. Russell is doing to address the challenges posed by the COVID-19 downturn.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director and CEO Gadi Kaufmann speaks with Chief Operating Officer Dorthy Bright about technology’s role in her career development, the challenges of starting her own software company to help shared space providers, and the importance of philanthropy in raising the next generation of female business leaders.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director Gregg Logan speaks with Schroeder-Manatee Ranch President and CEO, Rex Jensen, about pivoting to real estate after beginning a career in law, how to communicate an executive vision that “sees three chess moves ahead” to all internal stakeholders, and what the success of Lakewood Ranch means for the future of the master-planned community concept.

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In this episode, RCLCO CEO and Managing Director, Gadi Kaufmann, speaks with Turner Impact Capital CEO, Bobby Turner, about leaving Wall Street to pursue social impact investing, creating the first social impact fund in 1998 with Earvin “Magic” Johnson, and expanding the scope of social impact investing metrics to include healthcare, education, and workforce housing initiatives.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Gregg Logan, speaks with Tavistock Development Company President, Jim Zboril, about integrating public art into real estate development, utilizing parks and restaurants for creative placemaking, and the synergies that come from mixed-use development.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Gregg Logan, speaks with Weyerhaeuser Senior Vice President of Real Estate, Energy and Natural Resources, Jim Kilberg, for a conversation about balancing entrepreneurial spirit with organizational discipline, the role of partnerships and joint ventures in leveraging value from an extensive land portfolio, and navigating the complexities of the regulatory environment on the state and federal levels.

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In this episode, RCLCO CEO and Managing Director, Gadi Kaufmann, speaks with CapRidge Partners’ Founding Partner, Steve LeBlanc, for a conversation about the growth in alternative investments for institutional investors and family offices, and the relationship between GP's and LP's.

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In this episode, RCLCO Senior Managing Director, Adam Ducker, speaks with Strategic Property Partners CEO, James Nozar, for a conversation about expanding the definition of sports-anchored entertainment districts, establishing company culture from scratch in a new venture, and lessons learned from an extensive career in real estate consulting and development.

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In this episode, RCLCO CEO and Managing Director, Gadi Kaufmann, speaks with Republic Property Group Co-CEOs, Tony Ruggeri and Jake Wagner.

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In this episode, RCLCO CEO and Managing Director, Gadi Kaufmann, speaks with H.G. Fenton Company President and CEO, Mike Neal, for a conversation about creating a positive company culture for multiple stakeholders, balancing the pace of growth with fiscal discipline, and financially preparing for changes in the real estate cycle.

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In this episode, RCLCO Managing Director, Charles Hewlett, speaks with The Bozzuto Group’s Chairman and Co-Founder, Tom Bozzuto, and President and CEO, Toby Bozzuto, for a conversation about succession planning , the demographic changes facing the apartment rental market, advice for young executives, and the challenges, as well as the benefits, of working in a family business.

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In the latest installation of our podcast series, Charles R. Brindell Jr. of Mill Creek Residential Trust joins RCLCO CEO & Managing Director, Gadi Kaufmann, to discuss the changing landscape of multifamily development, the viability of scaling a “sharpshooter” strategy, and navigating the details of a recapitalization transaction.

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In our inaugural episode, RCLCO CEO & Managing Director Gadi Kaufmann sits down with Tricon Capital Managing Director Andy Carmody for a conversation about maintaining a healthy work-life balance as an executive, how to measure success, and lessons learned throughout a career in real estate.