Then Again: Recent Episodes
Northeast Georgia History Center
Historian Glen Kyle of the Northeast Georgia History Center and guests explore the historical context and significance of everything from pop culture to the little known stories of our past in this light-hearted and educational podcast.
Episode NotesIn this episode, we share an interview with Dr. Tom Scott from our YouTube channel about the legend of Nancy Hart. If you’ve lived in Georgia for a while, you have likely come across the legend of Nancy Hart. This rebellious heroine of the American Revolution may or may not have actually existed, but the stories of her bravery, cleverness, and grit have been passed down since the early 1800s.
Dr. Tom Scott from the Department of History at Mercer University joins us to reveal what we do and don’t know about this mythic figure and what she has symbolized since her rise in the popular imagination.
YouTube Interview Version: https://youtu.be/9BSFLhre4wA
Episode NotesIn this special episode, we offer a heartfelt farewell to Marie Bartlett who was our Education Director since 2020. We wish Marie all the best as she enters into a new life chapter! Listen in to hear Marie's fond memories of field trips and programs.
This also means we're hiring! If you are interested in our part-time Director of Education role, please visit www.negahc.org/jobs for details.
Episode NotesIn this episode, Libba chats with computer historian David Greelish about the rise and impact of the personal computer, vintage computer collecting, the history behind computing technology, and thoughts on the future of communication technology. It's a fascinating discussion, and we look forward to David joining us to present on the history of computers during our May 22nd Homeschool Day: The Information Age.
David Greelish is the author of Classic Computing, which includes all ten issues of the groundbreaking computer history “zine” (newsletter/magazine) Historically Brewed & Classic Computing in one professionally bound volume. Classic Computing also includes the personal background story of David Greelish, Publisher and Editor (writer for many of the stories, too.)
David has also written numerous articles including those for Time Magazine and Forbes, and he has produced a great documentary titled Before Macintosh: The Apple Lisa which explores the history, technology, people, stories and industry influence of this lesser-known personal computer.
Learn more about David's work at: https://www.classiccomputing.com/
Check out upcoming events at the Northeast Georgia History Center at www.negahc.org/events.
Episode NotesLibba is joined by Dan White, Executive Producer of the documentary A President in Our Midst: Franklin Delano Roosevelt in Georgia. The Northeast Georgia History Center will present a free screening of this award-winning documentary on Saturday, April 20th at 2 PM at the John S. Burd Center for Performing Arts (just across the street from the museum.)
Details at www.negahc.org/events.
Episode NotesIn this special program preview, Libba chats with Madison Davis, K-12 Education Coordinator at theMuseum of History and Holocaust Education at Kennesaw State University. Madison will be presenting a program about the Tuskegee Airmen during the Northeast Georgia History Center's next Homeschool Day: World War II on Thursday, April 25th from 10 AM - 1 PM.
The Tuskegee Airmen were a group of African-American military pilots who served during World War II, breaking racial barriers in the U.S. military. Trained at Tuskegee Army Air Field in Alabama, they were the first African-American aviators in the U.S. Armed Forces, renowned for their exceptional skills and courage.
Details about our Homeschool Day: www.negahc.org/events
Details about the Museum of History and Holocaust Education: https://www.kennesaw.edu/marb/museum-history-holocaust-education/
Episode NotesIn this special program preview, Marie is joined by Ronda Sanders, Geneology Librarian for the Hall County Library System to discuss an upcoming collaborative event at the Gainesville Branch. Marie will be presenting on Thursday, April 11th at 6:30 PM about the tornado of 1936 in Gainesville, Georgia. This is a story of terrible devastation as well as community resilience. Listen now to learn about this event and what will be shared during the program.
https://hallcountylibrary.libcal.com/event/11597486
Also! Check out our upcoming free documentary screening of A President in Our Midst: Franklin Delano Roosevelt in Georgia. This free screening will be presented on Saturday, April 20th at 2 PM at the John S. Burd Center for Performing Arts, right across the street from the Northeast Georgia History Center. In this documentary, you'll learn about FDR's direct connection to Gainesville and the tornado of 1936 and much more. Details at www.negahc.org/events.
Episode NotesStep into the world of historical fiction as we sit down with author Jenny Bond. Join host Marie Bartlett as she explores Jenny's captivating journey as a writer, her passion for history, and the secrets behind bringing the past to life through literature. Discover the art of time travel through storytelling in this episode of Then Again.
https://www.jennybondbooks.com/
Episode NotesJoin host Marie Bartlett as speaks with Sterling Bishir, a history teacher and stunt horse trainer who worked on Season 5 of the TV show Outlander. Dive into Scottish history, Outlander's production secrets, and the world of stunt horse training. Whether you're a history buff, an Outlander fan, or intrigued by equestrian expertise, be sure to give this episode a listen.
And join us for our Fraser's Ridge Wedding Ball and event inspired by Outlander which will be held at the Northeast Georgia History Center on Saturday, March 30th. Details and tickets at: https://negahc.charityproud.org/EventRegistration/Index/15129
Episode NotesToday Marie speaks with Jim Grier and Tony Cornett of the Historical Society of Lula-Belton to share the history of this "tale of two cities." Lula became a significant hub as a railroad junction for the Atlanta and Charlotte Air Line Railway (later part of the Southern Railway System) and played a crucial role in its development. The presence of the railroad made Lula an important hub for shipping and receiving goods, contributing to its growth and the prosperity of the surrounding agricultural region.
Learn more about the Historical Society of Lula-Belton at www.cityoflula.com and on their Facebook page at www.facebook.com/lulabelltonhistoricalsociety.
Check out upcoming events at the Northeast GA History Center at www.negahc.org/events!
Episode NotesJoin us for part 2 of our two-part interview with Claude Ray, AC4SH, a member of the Athens Georgia Radio Club, to discuss the world of amateur HAM radio.
Claude Ray is an avid enthusiast and practitioner of amateur HAM radio, with a passion that spans several decades. His journey into the world of HAM radio began in his youth, driven by a natural curiosity about how things work, especially in the realm of communication technology. Claude's story is not just about his personal interests; it's a reflection of his dedication to the craft and community of HAM radio. Despite the challenges of learning Morse code and navigating the licensing process, Claude persevered, eventually obtaining his amateur radio license in 1992.
His achievements in the HAM radio community include making long-distance contacts around the globe to engaging in emergency communication services during natural disasters. Claude's involvement in the "Parks on the Air" program highlights his ongoing commitment, where he combines outdoor activities with HAM radio by setting up portable stations in parks to communicate with others.
More about Athens Radio Club: https://www.athensradioclub.org/
More about the Northeast Georgia History Center: www.negahc.org
Episode NotesOn this two-part episode of Then Again, Guada interviews Claude Ray, AC4SH, a member of the Athens Georgia Radio Club, to discuss the world of amateur HAM radio. It's a fascinating topic with great stories of community, remarkable achievements, learning, and sharing a still quite relevant yet antiquated technology. This interview is part of our oral history project at the Northeast Georgia History Center. We appreciate Claude sharing his experiences to archive for generations to come!
More about Athens Radio Club: https://www.athensradioclub.org/
More about the Northeast Georgia History Center: www.negahc.org
Episode NotesIn this episode, we chat with Rick Spears, a paleoartist who has never outgrown his fascination with dinosaurs and prehistoric creatures. Rick's journey into the world of paleoart began in childhood and has evolved into a career of drawing, sculpting, and creating exhibits and models, including life-sized dinosaurs and other ancient animals. His work combines scientific research with creative speculation to bring extinct creatures to life, alongside an interest in cryptozoology.
Rick is a founding member of the Paleontology Association of Georgia (PAG) and an exhibit designer for the Fernbank Science Museum.
Join Rick on Saturday, March 9th from 1-3 PM at the Northeast Georgia History Center for a special "pop up" exhibit showcasing Rick's work and his fossil collection! www.negahc.org/events.
Paleontology Association of Georgia: https://paleoassocga.wixsite.com/home
Episode NotesToday we discuss what modern audiences can reflect upon through Arthur Miller's The Crucible with Greg Geffrard, Associate Artistic Director of the Gainesville Theatre Alliance. The Gainesville Theatre Alliance will perform The Crucible February 16th - 24th. This is a great conversation to listen to before seeing this excellent production!
Tickets are available at https://gainesvilletheatrealliance.org/performance/the-crucible/
Episode NotesIn this episode, we explore the story behind Under A Tin Roof™, cooking & lifestyle brand founded by the dynamic mother-daughter duo, Kayla Lobermeier and Jill Haupt.
Our host, Marie Bartlett, speaks with Kayla Lobermeier, a gifted author and imaginative culinary artist who has penned two cookbooks: "The Prairie Kitchen Cookbook" and the eagerly-awaited "The Cottagecore Baking Book."
Join us as Kayla delves into her culinary world, where history, historical literature, fantasy, and the cottage-core movement serve as the wellspring of inspiration. She'll share her insights into how the past and present intertwine as she weaves together flavors, traditions, and stories from yesteryears.
Website Link: https://underatinroof.com/
Join us in this episode as our host Marie Bartlett interviews our special guest, Brandon W. Brooks. Brooks is the Curator of the John L. Wehle Gallery at Genesee Country Village & Museum and specializes in historical fashion. He works with the renowned Bruce & Susan Greene Costume Collection, featuring over 3,500 rare clothing items spanning three centuries.
In this enlightening conversation, we dive into the joys and challenges of curation. As well as the behind-the-scenes research and development process for new exhibits and the intriguing process of acquiring objects for museum collections. Each of the objects in a museum's collection is there for a reason, shares a unique history, and has a fascinating story to tell. We'll uncover the intriguing tales behind them in this episode.
The Genesee Country Village & Museum's website: www.gcv.org/
In this gripping episode, we are honored to host the accomplished author Mary Kay McBrayer, as she unveils the dark and chilling world of 'America's First Female Serial Killer.' Join us as we delve into Mary Kay's meticulously researched book, which uncovers the bone-chilling story of Jane Toppan. Through this interview, Mary Kay offers us a window into her writing process, the historical intrigue that led her to this shocking tale, and the fascinating journey of unearthing forgotten stories. If you're a true crime enthusiast, history buff, or simply curious about hidden narratives, this episode will leave you spellbound, as Mary Kay McBrayer masterfully unravels the mysteries of one of America's most haunting criminal legends.
For more information visit:www.marykaymcbrayer.com
Join us for a unique episode of the "Then Again Podcast," recorded live during the celebration of General James Oglethorpe's Birthday at Fort Frederica National Monument. In this special edition, recorded on December 16th last year, we immerse our listeners in the vibrant atmosphere of this historical event. Living history interpreters Richard Burke, Nicole Castoreno, and Jaret Carpenter offer insightful commentary with host Libba Beaucham, our Director of Operations. Tune in to feel the spirit of the 18th century and join us in a rousing "Huzzah" for General Oglethorpe!
For more information about Fort Frederica visit:www.facebook.com/FortFredericaNPS/
www.nps.gov/fofr/index.htm
Join us on this episode of Then Again as host Marie Bartlett delves into the world of museum work and the future of museums with Anneliese Meck. Anneliese is a public historian, historical interpreter, and accomplished historical costumer. She also manages the captivating social media platform 'The Sewphisticate.' In this engaging episode, Anneliese shares her journey into museum work, her roles at the Genesee County Village and Museum located in New York, and her active involvement in creating DEAI (Diversity, Equity, Accessibility, and Inclusivity) initiatives for a more equitable museum future. Tune in for an enlightening conversation exploring history, museums, and the exciting possibilities ahead on the Then Again Podcast!
Check out Anneliese work here: linktr.ee/sewphisticate?utm_source=linktree_profile_share
In this captivating episode of the 'Then Again Podcast,' we delve into the intriguing world of Phil Hudgins' book, "Grace and Disgrace." Join Libba Beaucham, the Director of Operations, as she sits down with Hudgins for an insightful conversation. Throughout the episode, Hudgins not only discusses the themes and narratives of his book but also provides intriguing context about Ruby Nell Birt, the former wife of notorious Dixie Mafia leader Billy Sunday Birt. This episode serves as a fascinating prelude to the upcoming forum at the Northeast Georgia History Center, scheduled for Tuesday, January 9th at 7 PM. Tune in to this special promotional episode for a sneak peek into the shadows and stories that Hudgins masterfully explores in his work.
A book signing will be held after the Q&A. Pre-order your copy of Grace and Disgrace on our online registration page linked below.
Link: www.negahc.org/events
Journey through the history of Biltmore House with Marie Bartlett and Lesley Jones in this episode of Then Again. Biltmore is a a true marvel of architecture nestled in North Carolina's Blue Ridge Mountains. In this podcast, we'll uncover the fascinating story of how this iconic mansion came to be, from visionary beginnings to meticulous planning and laborious construction. Explore the genius of George Washington Vanderbilt II's dream and the influence of renowned architect Richard Morris Hunt in crafting this opulent estate. We'll also delve into the challenges faced by countless workers who built the largest privately-owned home in America using innovative technologies of the late 19th century. From its 1895 completion to its present-day status as a vibrant cultural destination, Biltmore House has witnessed it all.
To learn more about the Biltmore House visit:www.biltmore.com
Join Marie Bartlett as she speaks with Maciej Smusz, Director of Mazuray Folk Dance Ensemble, and Caroline Clark, Dance Professor and Scholar, about Eastern European Folk Dance and its history. The Mazury Folk Dance Ensemble is a Polish folk dance group based in Atlanta, Georgia. The group is known for its commitment to the preservation of Polish culture and tradition through its vibrant performances that include international folk dance, traditional instruments, and authentic costumes. Did you know that Poland has 5 national dances? What do people wear while performing these dances? How do these dances vary by region? Find out all of this and more as we dive into the fascinating history and story of Eastern European Folk Dance.
To learn more about the Mazury Folk Dance Ensemble visit:www.mazuryatl.comwww.facebook.com/mazuryatlanta/
Fort Frederica National Monument welcomes you to a celebration of General James Oglethorpe’s 327th birthday! In this episode, join Libba Beaucham, Director of Operations, as she speaks with Park Ranger Phil Officer and living history interpreter Richard Burke. Together, they'll delve into the rich history of the monument, explore educational opportunities, and provide event details.
Fort Frederica National Monument has invited the Northeast Georgia History Center to participate in their special event this Saturday, December 16th celebrating James Oglethorpe's birthday. Visitors can meet members the History Center's interpretative team, Richard Burke and Nicole Castoreno, who portray James Oglethorpe and Mary Musgrove respectively for school groups and programs.
Mark your calendars for Saturday, December 16th, from 10:00 am to 3:30 pm, and join us for this free, family-friendly event.
Listen now at www.thenagainpodcast.com !
For further information, please visit:www.facebook.com/FortFredericaNPS
In this episode, we are delighted to welcome back Dr. Caroline Sutton Clark, Dance Historian, as our special guest. Together, we delve into the captivating world of Georgia's official state dance: square dancing. Notably, square dancing holds the official title in GA, and it is also recognized as the official state folk dance in 30 other states across the US. Join us as we explore the fascinating history of Georgia's state dance and the broader history of square dancing. We will uncover its origins, evolution, and its enduring place in both the state and the nation's cultural history.
In this special podcast extra, Libba speaks with the cast and director of the Gainesville Theatre Alliance's show An Actor’s Carol with shows this weekend, December 1st-3rd. Performed by acclaimed actor David Weber, this one-man version of Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol pushes the boundaries of traditional storytelling by incorporating elements of vaudeville, clown, and mime. The kinetic performance, punctuated by moments of clarity and hilarity from our Clown's backstory, promises a night of holiday spirit told through a captivating journey of redemption and self-discovery. The show features Christmas carols performed by guitarist Chris Damiano and runs an hour and a half.
Tickets: www.gainesvilletheatrealliance.org
In this episode, Libba Beaucham sits down with Jim Wright, an innovative Georgia Studies teacher. Jim is the mastermind behind "Georgia on Location," a YouTube channel dedicated to bringing Georgia's rich history to life. The channel delves into a variety of fascinating topics, including Button Gwinnett, the Trail of Tears, and the history of the Cotton Gin. Tune in to this enlightening conversation to discover valuable tips and creative ideas that can help you captivate and educate your students or children.
To learn more about "Georgia on Location" visit: YouTube.com/@thewrightstuffproductions
In today's episode, we delve into the story of George Corn Tassel, a Cherokee man who was charged with the murder of another Cherokee man in Cherokee territory in the 1830s. Despite the incident happening in Cherokee territory and involving only Cherokee people, he was convicted by the State of Georgia and hung in Gainesville, Georgia. This led to a series of legal battles that reached the United States Supreme Court in Worcester v. Georgia.
Historian, professor, and author, Dr. Michael Gagnon joins us today. Dr. Gagnon has conducted extensive research on Cherokee Removal, Cherokee court cases, and many many other topics that we look forward to exploring in later episodes. Today, we are going to dive into the details of the Corn Tassel story and what led the State of Georgia to intervene in Cherokee affairs.
Check out Dr. Gagnon's website full of great resources at: http://www.earlyushistory.net/
In this episode of Then Again, Libba speaks with local science fiction writer Kim Megahee about his series of time travel books that offer readers a chance to wonder and reflect on the past and the future. Kim Megahee is a former high school math teacher, soccer coach, and computer programmer with a degree in Mathematics Education from the University of Georgia. Upon retiring, Kim decided to pivot towards personal passions, dedicating time to family, the craft of writing, and the joy of music. Kim is a member of the Northeast Georgia Writers Club, the Northeast Georgia Literary Society, the Georgia Writers Association, and the Atlanta Writers Club.
To learn more about Kim's book series, visit www.authorkimmegahee.com.
To learn about the Northeast Georgia History Center's own "time travel adventures," visit www.negahc.org/tta.
Join Lesley for another episode of Then Again featuring special guest, Glen Kyle. Lesley and Glen discuss the challenging living conditions, prevalent diseases, and the hardships experienced during the Middle Ages, and how these obstacles gave rise to a fatalistic mindset. They also explore the event known as "dancing mania" in Germany and the fascinating theories of what caused the incident. This episode marks the conclusion of Lesley's October Takeover series.
In this week's episode, Lesley sits down with Guada Rodriguez, Media Producer, and Diana Mancilla, Gainesville Reads Program Manager, both from the History Center team. Together, they explore the rich cultural history of Dia de los Muertos, the Mexican celebration that honors the dearly departed. Explore the historical roots, including influences from Aztec and Spanish traditions, and gain a deeper understanding of the significance behind the annual event. Learn the customs, and traditions that Guada and Diana experienced growing up in the northern and southern regions of Mexico.
In this podcast, explore the remarkable story of a hidden historical gem nestled in Northeast Georgia with the President of the Fort Daniel Foundation, Eli Stancel. Fort Daniel served as a fort in the War of 1812 and as a frontier fort in the Hog Mountain community. Learn about Fort Daniel's historical significance and what is being done to preserve the site today. Also, please join Fort Daniels for its 15th Annual Frontier Faire on October 21st.
Find more details at www.fortdaniel.com
In this episode, journey with us as we revisit a previous program centered on the origins of vampires. During the program, we engaged in enlightening conversations with two distinguished experts: Dr. Mark Waddell, a professor specializing in science and medicine at Michigan State University, and Dr. Jill Galvin, a professor of literature from Ohio State University. Dr. Waddell examines the influence of science and medicine on vampire folklore in the early modern period. Dr. Galvin, on the other hand, explains the ideology of the infamous Dracula as a byronic hero.
In this week's episode, Lesley talks with Dr. Louis Kaplan, a distinguished History Professor at the University of Toronto, as they delve into the captivating world of spirit photography in America. Prepare to uncover the origins of spirit photography, led by William Mumler, gain insights into the intricate process behind these photographs, and unravel the intriguing narrative of P.T. Barnum's mission to debunk spirit photographers.
Link to the book by Dr. Louis Kaplan:www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/the-strange-case-of-william-mumler-spirit#:~:text=In%20the%201860s%2C%20William%20Mumler,the%20talk%20of%20the%20nation.
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Step into nineteenth-century England with Lesley and Dr. Phillip Guerty, Professor at the University of North Georgia. In this episode, they delve into the mysteries of the Victorian period including spiritualism, tarot, and how journalism changed the trajectory of the occult into the mainstream.
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In this episode, Marie speaks with Maelyn Ehrman, an Interior and Preservation Designer, about her work preserving and restoring historic structures. Historic Preservation is hard to define. The NPS says that "historic preservation is a conversation with our past about our future." Therefore, this podcast itself could be considered historic preservation! But in this episode, we will be focusing on Ehrman's work with built heritage preservation and conservation, including projects she has worked on in Gainesville, Athens, and Savannah, GA.
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In this episode, Marie speaks with her educational programming intern for the summer, Dash Acker, about how this internship has impacted her. Our Educational Programming interns have hands-on experience at the History Center with all aspects of educational programming, from the planning process to implementing ideas for field trips, special events, homeschool days, and more.
For more information please visit:www.negahc.org/internships
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Episode NotesIn this special episode, we introduce you to our new Executive Director Greg Payne!
Raised in the historically rich region of Northern Virginia, Greg's enthusiasm for history was ignited at an early age. “I was fortunate to grow up where I did, surrounded by as much American History as I was. It was through great teachers, musems, and books that I found a passion for history and how history can be used to connect people not just to the past but within their present communities as well.” adds Greg. Greg’s academic journey culminated with a Bachelor of Science in History from Portland State University and an M.B.A. from East Carolina University.
Professionally, Greg has showcased exemplary leadership in roles such as Senior Project Manager at Descartes Systems and Services Project Manager at Manhattan Associates. His experience managing multiple customer implementation projects, collaborating with diverse teams, and mentoring team members speaks to his ability to lead and inspire. His tenure at UPS in Corporate Transportation and IT Solutions further underscores his adeptness in strategic planning, project execution, and stakeholder communication.
Beyond his corporate journey, Greg's commitment to community shines through. Before accepting the position, Greg was a dedicated volunteer with the History Center and has held leadership roles in organizations like Toastmasters and the Boy Scouts of America. Greg is also the host of his original Cool Grandpa podcast which offers insights and resources for grandparents to connect with their grandchildren.
"We’re all so grateful to have Greg on the team,” says Libba Beaucham, who acted as Interim Executive Director and is now Director of Operations. “It was an honor and a rewarding experience to be Interim Executive Director, but we really needed someone with Greg’s skill set, experience, and strategic approach to fully realize our potential. Being a fellow history nerd, Greg also understands the value we offer to the community. I’m really looking forward to learning from Greg and working with him as a team leader!”
As the Northeast Georgia History Center continues its mission to connect people with the past, the addition of Greg Payne to its leadership team marks a promising new era, especially as the museum will be celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2024.
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In this episode, join Libba Beaucham as she speaks with Teigha Snowden, Director of Advocacy for United Way of Hall County, and Patricia Engel, author of the New York Times bestselling book Infinite Country. The United Way of Hall County has received a National Endowment for the Arts Big Read grant, which will bring Patricia Engel to Gainesville to discuss her novel on Monday, September 11th, at 6 p.m. at the Hall County Library Main Branch. The event is free and open to the public, and attendees will receive a complimentary copy of Patricia's book.
For more information on Patricia Engel, please visit:www.pandelectures.com
Event information:www.unitedwayhallcounty.org/nea-big-read
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In this podcast episode, Marie Bartlett speaks with Dr. Lisa L. Denmark, professor of History at Georgia Southern Univerity, and author of_ Savannah's Midnight Hour: Boosterism, Growth, and Commerce in a Nineteenth-Century American City. _Dr. Denmark's book looks at Savannah's city government and its role in the city's economy throughout the 19th century. From canals to railroads, the Civil War, and Savannah's economic crisis in the 1870s learn about Savannah's municipal finance, public policy, and judicial readjustment in an urbanizing nation.
Link to book From Georiga Press:ugapress.org/book/9780820356327/savannahs-midnight-hour/
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In this episode, Marie speaks with Dr. Kenneth Wheeler, author of Modern Cronies: Southern Industrialism from Gold Rush to Convict Labor, 1829-1894. The book begins with the Georgia Gold Rush in and takes a look at its far-reaching impact.
Link to book From Georgia Press: ugapress.org/book/9780820357522/modern-cronies
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In this episode, Marie speaks with her educational research interns, Maleea Gray and Sarah Bishop, about the research they conducted this summer about White Path, his cabin, his land, the Pinson family, and one-room schoolhouses. They also speak about their experience of having a virtual internship and how this internship has impacted them.
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In this podcast episode, Marie Bartlett speaks with Kat Nagar, Director of Atlanta Historic Dance. Kat Nagar is a performer, teacher, and choreographer of historical social dance. As well as a dance historian, she is also a historical costumer and creates some of the costumes you'll see in performance and also at Promenade: the Historic Fashion Show at the Northeast Georiga History Center on August 19th. Atlanta Historic Dance delivers a unique performance experience. Dancers perform researched period-correct dances while modeling the latest fashions of the era.
Links to Atlanta Historic Dance: www.facebook.com/atlantahistoricdance
katpnagar.wixsite.com/mysite/about-us
Tickets for Promenade: The Historic Fashion Show www.negahc.org/events
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In this podcast episode, Marie Bartlett speaks with Major-General Nathanael Greene, commander of the Southern Theater during the American Revolutionary War, as the Northeast Georgia History Center prepares to host Greene for the final installment of our Summer Chautauqua series about the Founding of GA on Tuesday, August 8th at 7 PM. Marie also speaks with living history interpreter Dan McMichael who will be bringing Nathanael Greene to life for our audiences. Dan McMichael is an experienced reenactor and living historian who owns and runs Revolutionary Day LLC and portrays several historical characters.
Revolutionary Day LLC link: www.revolutionarydays.com
New Gainesville Chautauqua event information: www.negahc.org/events
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Join Marie Bartlett and Dr. Ben Steere in this whirlwind adventure through time to learn about the architecture of the Cherokee People from 1400 AD to 1820. Dr. Steere is an Associate Professor of Anthropology and Sociology at Western Carolina University. His primary areas of study include Southeastern archaeology, Cherokee archaeology, household archaeology, indigenous archaeology, and regional settlement pattern studies.
Informational Links: Native American Log Caibns in the Southeast by Gregory A. Waselkov www.amazon.com/Native-American-Log-Cabins-Southeast/dp/1621905047
OsiyoTV: Voice of the Cherokee People osiyo.tv
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In this episode join Libba and Jim Betz for a discussion on history education. Jim is a history teacher in Georgia and a producer of the Moving Through Georgia Podcast, who has utilized the many tools and resources the Northeast Georgia History Center has to offer. From on-site programs and tours to our free digital programs for Georgia educators, learn from a local teacher's perspective what it means to teach history in this day and age.
Moving Through Georgia Podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/moving-through-georgia/id1569062324
Educational Resources: www.negahc.org/education
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Interested in learning about your family's history but not sure where to start? This episode will give you the information, resources, and tips you need to start your family genealogy project! Join Libba and Marie as they discuss genealogy practices with Ronda Sanders, Genealogy Librarian of the Hall County Library.
Hall County Library Genealogy Resources: www.hallcountylibrary.org/index.php/genealogy-resources
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In this episode, Marie Bartlett speaks with Dr. Charity Armstead about the history of corsets and how they have changed since the early 19th century. Marie and Dr. Armstead explore the myths, research studies, and daily life activities of the women who wore them in the past.
Link to Research Article by Dr. Armstead: www.iastatedigitalpress.com/itaa/article/id/8813/
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The University of North Georgia (UNG) was the first campus in Georgia to offer co-education to men and women. When the institution held its first classes in 1873, UNG was known as the North Georgia Agricultural College and it had 98 males and 79 females enrolled. Join Marie Bartlett and Dr. Katherine Rohrer as they take a look at this fascinating history of women's education at UNG.
Learn more about the University of North Georgia: www.ung.edu
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In this episode, Dr. Dee Gillespie shares her research about the mineral springs of Gainesville and the resorts that formed around them in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Contact information for Dr. Dee Gillespie:
Dee.Gillespie@ung.edu
ung.edu/history-anthropology-philosophy/faculty-staff-bio/deanna-gillespie.php
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In this episode, Marie time travels to chat with General James Oglethorpe about his founding the Georgia colony in 1733. Meet General Oglethorpe, portrayed by living history interpreter Richard Burke, during our New Gainesville Chautauqua program on Tuesday, June 13th at 7 PM at the Northeast Georgia History Center!
Purchase your tickets for New Gainesville Chautauqua at: negahc.charityproud.org/EventRegistration/Index/12249
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In this podcast, Marie and Dr. Caroline Sutton Clark discuss the Origins of Disco and its impact on our dance culture today.
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In this episode, Libba speaks with Madia Cooper-Ashirifi of Brenau University about a new graduation tradition: the Nyansapo Kente Stole Ceremony. This ceremony honors graduating students who wish to partake in longstanding traditions with West African roots that represent a right of passage into a new life phase. This ceremony provides graduates an opportunity to reflect on their journey at Brenau, the challenges they have overcome, and what lies ahead for them as they transition into a new life chapter. Madia shares the symbolism of this ceremony including the colors and design of the stole, the processional walk, the bestowing of the stole, traditional drumming within the ceremony, and more.
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Contact email: BFSA@brenau.edu
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In today's episode, Marie is joined by scholar Dr. Dennis Alley to discuss the history behind ancient Roman coins and what we can learn from currency of old. Marie and Dr. Alley explore the way coins were produced, the symbols on coins, their value in the past and in modern time, archeological finds, and more!
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Chainmail is most often associated with the armor of old, but in today's episode, we're joined by artist and jeweler Dave Cain who has taken this ancient art form into the world of jewelry. Learn about the intricate and intensive process of creating chainmail armor and jewelry, the history behind this artisan craft, and the nuances of Dave Cain's work.
Check out Dave's jewelry at www.davecain.com
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In this special "Nerding Out" episode of Then Again, Marie, Libba, Guada, and Lesley share a few of their favorite history-making women! Learn why each historic figure inspires them and, perhaps, be introduced to a few ladies of history you didn't know about. We discuss Juliette Gordon Low, Clara Barton, Leonor Villegas de Magnón, Victoria Woodhull, Louisa May Alcott, Queen Elizabeth I, Queen Elizabeth the II, and Florence Nightingale!
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In today's episode, Libba speaks with Zechariah Pierce and Dr. Jeff Marker of the Gainesville Theatre Alliance about their upcoming theatre adaptation of George Orwell's 1984. Zechariah and Jeff share the research process, connections to surveillance in the modern world, the experiences of the student performers in this production, and how 1984 can help us reflect on the consequences of social media.
Tickets are on sale now for showtimes spanning April 14-22nd. Details at gainesvilletheatrealliance.org/performance/1984/.
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In this episode, Libba speaks with the Alliance Theatre's Head of Elementary School Programs, Rebecca Pogue, about how the Alliance Theatre integrates theatre techniques to teach historical topics. This is a great episode for teachers and parents alike! Rebecca shares simple activities to help students build confidence in their class presentations, connect to the past in a personal way, and have a lot of fun while learning!
More information on the Alliance Theatre's educational programs and resources are available at www.alliancetheatre.org.
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It was the "Age of Empire" and countries in Europe sought to show their strength and national pride by dominating other countries around the globe. This last age of empire is an incredibly important time as its legacy still affects our world to this day. In this podcast, Marie Bartlett speaks with Dr. Matt Standard, Professor of History at Berry College and author of several books and articles about Europe's relations with the wider world including the book, European Overseas Empire 1879-1999: A Short History. Join them as they scratch the surface of the beginnings of European Imperialism in Africa.
Link to order book: www.wiley.com/en-us/European+Overseas+Empire%2C+1879+1999%3A+A+Short+History-p-9781119130116
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The Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island are intrinsically linked in the minds of many Americans. They are both symbols of the American identity and hold significant reminders of American History, but how much do they really have to do with each other? And what can they tell us about America today? Join Marie Bartlett and guest Alan Kraut, Distinguished Professor of History at American University, as we look into the past of these significant historic sites and see what they tell us about the present.
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Episode NotesIn this week's episode, we are joined by bestselling author Kimberly Brock to discuss her historical fiction novel The Lost Book of Eleanor Dare, which follows the descendants of Eleanor Dare, a woman who was among the members of the Lost Colony of Roanoke.
Purchase The Lost Book of Eleanor Dare at this link: History Center Online Shop
More information about Kimberly Brock is available at: www.kimberlybrockbooks.com
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Episode NotesAfter 15 years of serving as Executive Director of the Northeast Georgia History Center, we wish Glen Kyle farewell as he transitions to a new career. In this episode, we're joined by Glen, Libba, Marie, and Lesley to reflect on Glen's time at the History Center. We discuss Glen's path to becoming a museum professional, as well as our own, and the lessons learned along the way.
Send your well wishes to Glen by emailing us at info@negahc.org!
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It is hardly surprising that folks who work in museums like to, well, visit other museums! It's a great way not just to learn about other subjects, but to hone one's own craft and understanding of the profession, and maybe even ~~steal~~ borrow some ideas for your own museum. In this episode Marie and Glen "nerd out" about some of their favorite museums... other than the Northeast Georgia History Center, of course!
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Emily Dickinson has gone from being a 'nobody" to taking her place on the world's stage as a great poet. She was rather reclusive as an adult and therefore there are many myths and legends that have surrounded her life's story. In this podcast episode, Marie interviews Dr. Cristanne Miller about the fact from fiction of Emily Dickinson's life.
For more information visit:
Emily Dickinson’s Poems As She Preserved Them: www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674737969Emily Dickinson A Poet’s Grammar: www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674250369Reading in Time Emily Dickinson in the Nineteenth Century: www.umasspress.com/9781558499515/reading-in-time/
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In our latest episode of Then Again, Guada is joined by Vanesa Sarazúa, Founder and Executive Director of Hispanic Alliance GA. Hispanic Alliance GA is a non-profit organization that provides a vast array of services primarily to Latino families in need in Hall County and surrounding areas. In this conversation, Vanesa shares her perspective on the experiences of Latino families in Hall County, the resources Hispanic Alliance has available, and how anyone in the community can support new families moving to our wonderful city.
For more information visit: hispanicalliancega.org
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Museums and other heritage sites have different ways of engaging their visitors with the content and history that they preserve. Two methods of historical interpretation that have been growing in popularity in the past several decades are living history and historic character portrayals. These methods bring history to life and engage the visitor in a personal way, but what goes into creating these historical experiences? A LOT! In this podcast, Marie interviews Gene Harmon of Inheriting Heritage about what goes into bringing the past to life.
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Libba is joined by Tommy Valentine, Executive Director of Historic Athens, to discuss the annual Historic Athens Porchfest which showcases over 150 musicians as they perform on the porches of historic homes. Athens, Georgia is well known for its music history and culture with artists like R.E.M. and the B-52's who got their start there. But the history and legacy of music in Athens goes back much further! Learn how Athens has become a cultural hub for musicians of all genres, how Historic Athens Porchfest continues that legacy, and what's coming up next for Historic Athens in today's episode.
Learn more about Historic Athens at www.historicathens.com.
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Episode NotesGlen and Marie nerd out about their favorite history books ranging from ancient authors and topics to great resources for those who want in-depth research. Glen and Marie's selections are listed below:
Glen's Book Picks
The Peloponnesian WarThucydides
The Normans & The Norman ConquestR. Allen Brown
With Zeal & Bayonets Only: The British Army on Campaign in North America, 1775-1783Matthew H. Spring
Wilderness Still the Cradle of Nature: Frontier GeorgiaEdward J. Cashin
Other People’s Money: How Banking Worked in the Early American RepublicSharon Ann Murphy
Overlord: D-Day and the Battle for NormandyMax Hastings
Go, Flight! The Unsung Heroes of Mission ControlRick Houston, Milt Heflin
Marie's Book PicksElizabeth: The Struggle for the ThroneDavid Starkey
The Salem Witchcraft Trials: A Legal HistoryPeter Charles Hoffer
Royal Love Stores: The tales behind the real-life romances of Europe's Kings and Queens.Gill Paul
Jane Austen in ContextEdited by Janet Todd
Mothers of Invention: Women of the Slaveholding South in the American Civil WarDrew Gilpin Faust
The Encyclopedia of Civil War MedicineGlenna R. Schroeder-Lein
Shutting out the Sky: Life in the Tenements of New York 1880-1914Deborah Hopkinson
What Style is It? A Guide to American ArchitectureJohn C. Poppeliers and S. Allen Chamers Jr.
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The Swan House is one of Atlanta's most famous historic homes and is located on the grounds of the Atlanta History Center. It has many claims to fame including being featured in The Hunger Games movie franchise as Presidents Snow's Mansion. The Swan House was designed in 1928 by Philip T. Shutze for Mr. and Mrs. Inman, who gained their wealth through the cotton industry. In this episode, Marie interviews Gene Harmon who has done extensive research working as a historical interpreter at the Swan House portraying Mr. Inman himself. Learn more about the people who built this magnificent house and their lasting impact on the city of Atlanta.
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Episode NotesToday's episode is from our 2022 season of Members Only programs that we are releasing to the public. Consider becoming a Member or Digital Member to enjoy our 2023 season of Members Only programs. In this interview, Marie is joined by Dr. Brandi Brimmer to discuss Dr. Brimmer's fascinating book Claiming Union Widowhood. This book explores explores the challenges and experiences of African-American widows who navigated the US pension system after the Civil War. Check the episode description for a link to purchase the book as well as a promo code for 30% discount.
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Purchase Dr. Brimmer's book through Duke University Press and use the promo code below to receive 30% off! www.dukeupress.edu/claiming-union-widowhood Promo Code: E20BRMMR
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In our latest episode of Then Again Podcast we present an episode from a video presentation from October of 2020 about the history of football at the University of Georgia. Marie provides an updated introduction and conclusion given the recent and historic 2023 College Football Playoff National Championship win by the Georgia Bulldogs. Marie and Libba are joined by UGA Athletics History Specialist, Jason Hasty, for a fascinating interview about this team's long history.
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In our latest episode of Then Again Podcast we bring to you an interview from our 2022 members mini-documentary. Many people are unfamiliar with the Yazoo Land Fraud that took place in Georgia during the 1790s, but this scandal had far-reaching consequences in politics, the geography of Georgia, and even the future Trail of Tears. In this episode, historian Glen Kyle examines the Yazoo Land Fraud with Dr. George Lamplugh.
Check out Dr. Lamplugh's fascinating history blog at www.georgelamplugh.com
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Episode NotesJoin us for a deep dive into the life and works of Louisa May Alcott, author of Little Women, with Marie and special guest Jan Turnquist. Jan Turnquist is the Director of Orchard House, where Louisa May Alcott wrote and set Little Women in 1868. In this episode, we explore the influences, personal life, inspirations, and curiosities of Alcott's life and work.
More about Orchard House: https://louisamayalcott.org/about
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Episode NotesMarie discusses growing up in Iron Age Europe (about 800 BC – 43 AD) with Doctoral Candidate Megan Kimmelshoe of Bangor University in Wales. What can we know about childhood during this period based on archeological findings? How did children play? What toys did they have? How were they educated? Learn all of this and more in today's episode!
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Episode NotesLibba and Glen nerd out over one of their favorite American adventures: The Lewis & Clark Expedition. It's a story of danger, adventure, diplomacy, science, and more that was thoroughly documented through journals and specimens. Libba and Glen provide an overview of the who, what, when, where, and why of this great expedition.
Links to journal images: https://lewisandclarkjournals.unl.edu/
Mentioned in this episode:Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose
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Episode NotesLibba shares the story of Gainesville Reads, the Northeast Georgia History Center's free children's reading program.
Join us Friday, December 2nd for our Third Annual 24 Hour Telethon supporting Gainesville Reads! Details at www.negahc.org/telethon.
Watch on YouTube: bit.ly/negahcyoutube
Watch on Facebook: www.facebook.com/negahc
Donate during the telethon at: bit.ly/telethon22
Donate after the telethon here.
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Episode Notes Our Research Intern Kate Chenault discussed the portrayal of women in Western art with Dr. Donna Cassidy, Professor of Art and American & New England Studies at the University of Southern Maine. Discussed in this episode: early female artists, the male gaze, the feminist movement and art, interpretations of the female reclining nude, and what art can tell us about a culture.
Check out Dr. Cassidy's book Painting the musical city : jazz and cultural identity in American art, 1910-1940 at: https://library.nga.gov/permalink/01NGA_INST/1qqg09j/alma991378783504896
Details about our upcoming Third Annual 24 Hour Telethon: www.negahc.org
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Episode Notes Released from our 2022 Members-Only season: Dr. Jamie Kreiner joins Glen to discuss her book Legions of Pigs in the Early Medieval West which explores the ways in which pigs impacted early medieval culture, daily life, politics, and even religion.
Become a Member at www.negahc.org/member
Purchase Dr. Kreiner's book at: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300246292/legions-of-pigs-in-the-early-medieval-west/
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Episode Notes Today's episode is from an oral history interview with Cecilia Hadley to share the story of her great aunt, a local hero named Ms. Bessie Bickers. Ms. Bessie was a local school teacher in Gainesville in the early 1900s who was known for her positive attitude, fun-loving nature, hard work ethic, and especially her love for animals. Bessie founded the Humane Society of Hall County back in 1913, which remains one of the oldest human societies in Georgia.
Would you like to contribute to our oral history project? Email Libba at libba@negahc.org!
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Episode Notes Recent events have led to the re-evaluation of the memory and commemoration of Confederate symbols and leaders, from statues to street names to military bases. One man, however, seems to come through that re-evaluation as someone who's convictions, in the end, are something to at least respect and perhaps admire... join us as we dive more deeply into the life and legacy of James Longstreet with Richard Pilcher of the Longstreet Society.
Longstreet Society: www.longstreetsociety.org
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In our latest episode of Then Again Podcast, we explore the T.R.R. Cobb House and its history. The name Cobb pops up a lot in Georgia history, especially in Athens, Georgia. T.R.R. Cobb is considered to be one of the "first citizens" of Athens, but he also became quite a controversial figure.
Join Marie Bartlett as she talks to Ashleigh Oatts, the Education Coordinator at the T.R.R. Cobb House as they explore this complex history.
T.R.R. Cobb House Museum
www.trrcobbhouse.org
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Anne Frank's Diary is one of the most famous documentations of the Holocaust told through the eyes of a young teen coming of age in Nazi-occupied Amsterdam. Since the diary's publication in 1947, it has been translated into more than 70 languages and made into stage plays, movies, and an opera. In this podcast, Marie Bartlett speaks with Adina Langer, curator for the Kennesaw State University's Museum of History and Holocaust Education, about the life and legacy of Anne Frank.
Link to the Museum of History and Holocaust Education Website: https://historymuseum.kennesaw.edu/
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Most folks know about Hawkeye, Colonel Potter, Radar, "Hotlips" Houlihan, and the whole gang... characters from one of the most popular TV shows of all time. But what's the story behind the show, and how much of it is based on real history? Is it really about the Korean War, or something else? Glen and Marie answer these questions and more. Warning: there's a fair bit of nostalgia thrown in....
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Can we summarize the entire Atlanta Campaign of the Civil War in under 30 min? Why was Atlanta so important, and how did all this affect the reelection of Abraham Lincoln? In this episode Glen and Marie pull it off... barely. There are of course battles and generals, but this series of events goes far beyond the military details, changing not just the course of the war, but American history.
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In this Podcast, Marie Bartlett speaks with Sandy White the Education Director at the Coastal Georgia Historical Society, which manages the WWII Home Front Museum on Saint Simons Island, GA. Molly McIntire is one of the original historical characters from the American Girl Doll Brand whose story begins in 1944 and continues until the end of the war in 1945. Her 6-book series chronicled what life was like on the American Homefront for a 9-year-old girl and her family. Marie and Sandy dive in deeper to see how WWII affected the lives of everyday Americans, specifically those living in GA.
WWII Home Front Museum: www.coastalgeorgiahistory.org
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Preserving local history takes dedication, patience, curiosity, and a true passion for your community. In this episode, Libba speaks with Peter Madruga, President of Habersham Education and Research which is dedicated to preserving and sharing the history of Habersham County, Georgia. Most recently, Peter and his team have produced a documentary about the history of the train depot in Cornelia, Georgia, which has been an iconic part of the town since its construction in the late 1800s.
Cornelia: a Train Town premieres Saturday, September 17th and will be shown again on October 15th. The documentary will also be released to the public at a later date. Details at: www.habershamhistory.org/
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The GA Capitol Building and Museum: Since its construction in 1889, Georgia's gold-domed Capitol Building has been an icon of Atlanta. Yet, if votes had gone differently, the Capitol Building would be in Milledgeville. So, why Atlanta? Marie speaks with Sophia Queen, Manager of Tours and Education at the Georgia Capitol Museum, to learn why Atlanta was an ideal city for Georgia's capitol and the story of its gleaming Capitol Building.
Website: www.libs.uga.edu/capitolmuseum/
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The Rev. Charles T. Walker was a prominent figure in the state of GA who rose to national and international fame. Born into slavery in 1858, he was a part of the first wave of prominent African American figures to take the national stage after emancipation. From his home in Augusta, GA, he traveled the world and made friends with people such as John D Rockefeller. Learn more about the amazing life and legacy of Rev. Charles T. Walker in this podcast as Marie Bartlett interviews Corey Rogers, Historian at the Lucy Craft Laney Museum of Black History.
For more information about the Lucy Craft Museum of Black History visit www.lucycraftlaneymuseum.com
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In this third and final episode of our three-part series on Latin America, Dr. Spike explains to Glen how the CIA-backed overthrow of the Guatemalan government in 1954 set the stage for decades of interventionist policies, cold war political wrangling, and efforts by Latin American countries to assert their independence in ways that didn't always meet with support from the United States.
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Most Americans have heard of Pancho Villa, but who was he and what are the larger events that he (and others) participated in? In this second episode of a three-part series, Dr. Tamara Spike of the University of North Georgia explains the Mexican Revolution of 1910 and how, despite some struggles, the Mexican Constitution that came from it was one of the most progressive and stabilizing documents in the Western Hemisphere.
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Latin America makes up nearly two-thirds of the New World, but (unfortunately) many folks in the United States are unfamiliar with its history. In this first episode of a three-part series, Glen talks with Dr. Tamara Spike to discuss the Haitian Revolution, its place in a complex set of world events, and how it affected not just Latin America but the United States and all of world history.
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Segregation and its role in America, especially the American South, after the civil war is complicated and complex. Segregation was present in schools, churches, housing, and transportation. It was a part of daily life, but perhaps many do not understand the nuances and complexities that accompanied it. In this podcast, Marie speaks to Dr. Chris Caplinger, Assistant Professor of History at Georgia Southern University, about segregation in the New South from 1860-1914.
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Ancient Egypt shows up in our daily lives, maybe without us even realizing it. From the Washington Monument, to the Silent Film Era in Hollywood, to The Bangles' smash hit 'Walk Like an Egyptian,' it seems like American culture has always been fascinated with ancient Egypt, but there were two large historical events that really brought Ancient Egypt to the forefront of American popular culture and ingrained aspects of it into daily life which will be discussed in this podcast by Marie Bartlett and Jess Brazinski, master's candidate at the University of North Georgia.
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In this podcast, Marie interviews Jack Weinstein, the president of the board for the Augusta Jewish Museum, about how the oldest standing Synagogue in Georgia was saved from demolition and is being turned into the Augusta Jewish Museum. If you would like to learn more about this museum and tour their virtual exhibits you can do so here: www.augustajewishmuseum.org
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In our latest episode of Then Again, Marie interviews Lesley Jones, the Collections and Archives Manager of the Northeast Georgia History Center, about séances. More specifically, Victorian seances in late 1800s London, which is the focus of Lesley's recent Master's thesis titled Home is Where the Haunt is: The Cultural History of the Domestic Séance in Victorian London. Generally, when we think of seances our mind sends us to spooky corners, filled with evil spirits. But Lesley is here to offer a different perspective, that of the Victorian age, where people sought to communicate with loved ones who had passed.
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When most people think about Presidents and GA, they think of Jimmy Carter or FDR and the Little White House, but most people would not think of President Woodrow Wilson even though he grew up in Augusta, GA! The man who would become the 28th President of the United States was raised in Augusta, GA from age 14 months to 14 years old, throughout the tumultuous time of the civil war and reconstruction. In this podcast, Marie Bartlett speaks with the Director of Historic Augusta Inc. Erick Montgomery about the Boyhood Home of Woodrow Wilson, how growing up in the South influenced Wilson, and some of his other GA connections you probably didn't know. If you are interested in learning more about this topic check out Erick Montgomery's book, Thomas Woodrow Wilson: Family Ties and Southern Connections.
Link to website_: _www.wilsonboyhoodhome.org
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When we learn about the Women's Suffrage moment in the United States, the big events are generally focused on the Northeast and Western regions. But what was happening in the southern states like Georgia? Marie Bartlett speaks with Dr. Katherine Rohrer of the University of North Georgia on this fascinating and complicated topic.
Dr. Katherine Rohrer's areas of expertise include the 19th and 20th century U.S. South, race relations, women's history, and religion, all of which collide in the pro and anti-suffrage movements in the South.
Learn more about the Northeast Georgia History Center at www.negahc.org
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In this episode, Glen talks with Heather Shores, Executive Director of the Chieftains Museum/Major Ridge Home to learn about one of the most important, and most undeservedly maligned Cherokee in history, Major Ridge. Warrior, businessman, diplomat, and Councilman, Ridge was at the center of tribal life and politics for decades and played a leading role in the Treaty of New Echota... a role that led to his assassination.
Visit the Chieftains Museum/Major Ridge Home website to learn more! www.chieftainsmuseum.org
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In this episode, Marie Bartlett interviews Dr. Joran Cofer about the life, work, and times of one of Georgia's greatest writers, Flannery O'Connor. Dr. Jordan Cofer is the Associate Provost for Transformative Learning Experiences at the Georgia College and State University in Milledgeville, the town that O'Conner called home for much of her life. O'Connor was not a prolific writer during her short life; she only published two novels and two collections of short stories, but her legacy has been an enduring one as the themes she tackled in her stories intrigue scholars and draw the interest of an international audience to this day. Dr. Cofer plugs the Andalusia Institute in the podcast: Here is the description from their website: The Andalusia Institute, the public arts and humanities center of Georgia College, supports Flannery O’Connor scholarship, nourishes writing and the creative arts, and engages community members with the arts and humanities. https://www.gcsu.edu/andalusiainstitute
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The "Bond Girl" has been an archetype, showing up in every James Bond novel and movie in the franchise's almost 70 years of history. In the 1950s and 1960s, these women fit a certain stereotype, they were the love interests of Bond and had names such as Pussy Galore or Holly Goodhead, reflecting the sexual revolution taking place at the time. But as time goes on and the feminist movement picks up steam, the "Bond Girl" role begins to change. In this podcast, Marie speaks with Dr. Phillip Guerty, Associate Professor of History at the University of North Georgia and lifelong Bond fan, about what the "Bond Girls" can tell us about the sexual revolution and the feminist movement in the late 20th century.
Episode Notes The names Bond, James Bond. The iconic spy working for MI 6 under the code name 007 has fascinated audiences for more than half a century. While James Bond is a fictional character and none of the books or movies are based on true historic events, the Bond films parallel what's happening in our world. Many of the Bond films have the backdrop of the Cold War and tap into American fears of sabotage and interference from the Russians.
In this podcast, Marie speaks with Dr. Phillip Guerty, Associate Professor of History at the University of North Georgia and lifelong Bond fan, about what the franchise can tell us about our perceptions of the Cold War and how it permeates through pop culture.
Episode Notes Cinco de Mayo has become one of the most popular and promoted holidays in the United States... but what is it? When did it begin? What ACTUALLY happened on that day? Guest historian Alejandro de Quesada joins Glen Kyle to clear up some of the myths around this day.
Episode Notes Dr. Craig Pascoe joins Glen to discuss the historic origins of barbecue, the varieties and methods that have evolved, and a new directory of mom & pop BBQ joints you should check out! Dr. Pascoe is a Professor of History at Georgia College in Milledgeville and has also assisted in creating the Georgia BBQ trails website: ww.georgiabbqtrails.com
Episode Notes Dr. Thomas Greene joins Glen to discuss the Crusades from what motivated Crusaders, the non-Western cultures that were impacted, the influential politics of the time, and how the Crusades are understood through popular media.
Episode Notes Today Atlanta is well known as a center of producing popular content of all kinds: music, theatre, comedy, movies... but the roots of that success go further back than you might think! This week's guest, Dr. Steve Goodson, author of _Highbrows, Hillbillies, and Hellfire: Public Entertainment in Atlanta, 1880-1930 _tells us that since the late 19th-century popular culture has been a major influence on the growth of the city.
Episode Notes Dr. Marianne Holdzkom joins host Marie Bartlett (née Walker) to review the historical accuracy and interpretation of well-known films, musicals, TV shows, and miniseries that feature the American Revolution. Dr. Holdzkom is an Associate Professor of History at Kennesaw State University who specializes in Colonial and Revolutionary U.S. History as well as the History of U.S. Religion and Culture.
Be sure to keep a lookout for Dr. Holdzkom's upcoming book Monuments Will Never Be Erected to Me: John Adams in History and Memory.
Episode Notes Through songs, images, stories, marketing campaigns, pie, and cobbler, peaches are inextricably linked with Georgia...but how did it get to be that way? We've asked historian Dr. Tom Okie of Kennesaw State University and author of The Georgia Peach: Culture, Agriculture, and Environment in the American South to tell us the story of how our state and the most delicious fruit around became a match made in heaven.
Episode Notes Before a character even speaks a line, the audience has already been introduced to them through their costume. In this podcast, Marie interviews professional Costume Designer Cole Spivia about her designs for theatrical pieces with a historical setting. How does one research what was worn in the past? What is the design process like? Where is the fine line between historical accuracy and theatrical practicality? Listen to find out!
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Episode Notes When you listen to this podcast, you will experience public history: applying the methodology of historians outside the academic sphere. It's a documentary, a living history program, a podcast. It's a museum like the Northeast Georgia History Center! In this episode, Dr. Akela Reason joins Marie to discuss and define public history as well as explore the role of museums in society. Dr. Reason is an Associate Professor at the University of Georgia who specializes in material culture, urban history, museum studies, and public history.
Episode Notes In honor of our 100th episode (wow!), Johnny Vardeman shares his experience and insight researching and writing about Gainesville, Georgia's history. Johnny Vardeman is a retired Editor of The Gainesville Times who currently writes a fascinating local history column for the newspaper. Join Glen and Johnny as they reflect on Gainesville's past and the events that Johnny witnessed and reported that have made Gainesville the city it is today.
Episode Notes The Civil War had a profound impact on American society in every way, including the environment and the way Americans viewed nature. Join Marie Walker as she interviews Dr. Brian Drake, senior lecturer at the University of Georgia, who specializes in environmental history. Environmental History is a discipline that explores the interactions of humans with the natural world, the active role that nature plays in shaping human history, and vice versa. As we look at the environment of the civil war we come to understand it in new ways.
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Episode Notes The defeat of the Confederacy in the American Civil War changed almost every aspect of life for those living in the South, but only in recent decades have historians explored how life changed for women during this fascinating time period. In this episode, Marie Walker interviews Dr. Katherine Rohrer of the University of North Georgia on this topic whose areas of expertise include the 19th and 20th century U.S. South, race relations, women's history, and religion.
Episode Notes *Please note that part of this episode discusses sexual accusations against Marie Antoinette and may not be appropriate for younger listeners.
Marie Antoinette was and is still known as the Last Queen of France, Madame Deficit, l’Autrichienne “The Austrian Woman, and perhaps some names that shouldn't be said. In part one, Maire discusses the myth and the reality of this infamous woman with Dr. Suzanne Desan, the Vilas-Shinners Distinguished Achievement Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, who specializes in the French Revolution.
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This is part 2 of 2.
Episode Notes Marie Antoinette was and is still known as the Last Queen of France, Madame Deficit, l’Autrichienne “The Austrian Woman, and perhaps some names that shouldn't be said. In part one, Maire discusses the myth and the reality of this infamous woman with Dr. Suzanne Desan, the Vilas-Shinners Distinguished Achievement Professor of History at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, who specializes in the French Revolution.
If you enjoyed this podcast, you may be interested in _Living the French Revolution and the Age of Napoleon, _a course by Dr. Desan which is available on Great Courses and on Audible.
This is part 1 of 2.
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Episode Notes Reconstruction in Georgia lasted form the end of the civil war to 1871 when a democratic government was able to regain control and end the military occupation of the state. The main goals of reconstruction were unification and emancipation. How well did Georgia meet these goals? Find out as Marie talks to Dr. Ann Tucker of the University of North Georgia who specializes in the history of the nineteenth century in US South.
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Episode Notes How close did we come to "The End of Everything?" Pretty darned close, to hear Dr. Ric Kabat's take on the Cuban Missile Crisis. In Cuba, 59 years ago, nuclear war was only a blink away as the Soviets and the United States, hampered by misunderstandings and a lack of reliable communication, nearly stumbled into World War III...but they didn't. Listen to find out what happened, and how this near-disaster paved the way for a thawing of the Cold War.
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Episode Notes Nerd Alert! Glen Kyle and Dr. Michael Proulx go toe-to-toe on one of the greatest questions facing the history world: Who was the better historian, Herodotus or Thucydides? Who were these guys, why are they such a big deal, and how does what they wrote about over 2500 years ago still affect us all? And, even more importantly, how does what they had to say apply to our world?
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Episode Notes Six Wives, Bloody Mary, Queen Elizabeth... all part of English history, and tied closely to the Reformation. But how, exactly? Dr. Johanna Luthman takes us into the world of Tudor England and shows how religion, politics, and personal desires combined to create one of the most (in)famous periods in the British past.
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Episode Notes While the Great War is often overshadowed by World War II in American history, for others it proved the catalyst for a strong sense of national identity for others, including Australia. Our guest today is Dr. Richard Byers (himself from Down Under!) and he shares the story of the ANZACS and their role in allied victory.
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Episode Notes Dr. Esther Morgan-Ellis joins us to explore the ways in which music has played and continues to play an essential role in Appalachian culture and history. The origins of traditional Appalachian instruments, the varied forms of song and dance, and the popular tunes that have lasted through the years will be discussed in this episode.
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Episode Notes Historians use more than dusty old books to learn about the past. Modern technology has allowed historians new methods to research and represent the past using 3D models, augmented and virtual reality, machine learning, and more. In this episode, Dr. Erin Bush joins us to discuss the future of...history!
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Episode Notes You have may have heard the name Genghis Khan, likely mispronounced, but the fascinating history of the Mongol Empire has not been well understood by mainstream audiences. Dr. Timothy May from the University of North Georgia specializes in this very subject and joins Glen in conversation about the culture and rise of the Mongol Empire in this week's episode.
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Episode Notes Preston Burt is back with us again to answer a very important question...just what is "retro" and how does nostalgia influence the media we consume? What kind of items become popular as they age into retro styles and why? Join the conversion in this episode!
Preston Burt is one of the creators of the Southern-Fried Gaming Expo which aims to "share the nostalgia and skill of the game with long-time gamers, and to spread the joy of discovery with new fans of all ages."
Preston also hosts the Wayback Attack podcast, so please give them a listen!
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Episode Notes Preston Burt from Southern Fried Gaming Expo and the Wayback Attack podcast joins Glen in exploring the history of pinball. This nostalgic arcade game goes back arguably hundreds of years, but most of us are familiar with the digital age of pinball with themed games like The Addams Family, Indiana Jones, and Star Wars. Learn all about pinball and its rise to fame in popular culture during this episode!
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Episode Notes Our very own Libba Beaucham joins us on the podcast today to discuss the fascinating life of Girl Scouts Founder Juliette Gordon Low. Low, or "Daisy" as she was nicknamed, began the Girl Scout movement in the United States in 1912. Learn how she became the leader of what is now the largest leadership organization for girls in the world and what inspired her in this episode.
Mentioned in this podcast: Stacey Cordery's book The Remarkable Founder of the Girl Scouts Juliette Gordon Low
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Episode Notes In this episode, we explore the history and technique of quilting with artist and quilter Sarah Atlee. Sarah discusses her work and methods with Marie as well as the historic significance of quilting during this fascinating conversation about a medium of expression and preservation that continues in new ways to this day.
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Episode Notes Glen and Marie share their favorite tales from times at the Georgia Renaissance Festival in this episode recorded during our 2020 Telethon.
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Episode Notes Celebrate 35 years of American Girl Dolls with Marie and Melissa Case! Melissa is a historical seamstress who has made outfits from the with Renaissance, Georgian, Victorian, and Edwardian Eras. She chronicles those sewing adventures in video diaries as well as sew-along/tutorials on her YouTube channel named Hat to Hem. Marie and Melissa discuss the historical context of American Girl Dolls and how they inspired Marie and Melissa to study history.
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Episode Notes We can learn so much from artifacts and documents, but how do historians interpret food in a historic context? In this episode, Glen and Marie discuss how "food ways" can help us explore cultures and practices of the past and present.
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Episode Notes Historic preservation is essential to understanding the past, but what exactly does it entail? In this episode, learn about the "ABC's" of historic preservation with Marie and Glen as they discuss the skills, research, and methods of historic preservation.
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Episode Notes Join us for Part 2 of our discussion with David French who created original educational history games for us! Learn the philosophy and methodology behind the games David has created and how you can create your own.
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Episode Notes Our friend and former museum staff member David French joins us to discuss how his original board games were developed to teach kids about history and have fun too! Stay tuned for next week's part 2 of this discussion.
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Episode Notes Charles Rhodarmer, Director of the Sequoyah Birthplace Museum, talks to us about the man who created the Cherokee syllabary and how this development changed the Cherokee Nation forever.
Image of the Syllabary
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Episode Notes Dave Klingler from Silver River Center for Chair Caning shares the history of this ancient practice, the patterns, the skills necessary, and how the tradition of woven seats is continued to this day.
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Episode Notes Dr. Dee Gillespie of the University of North Georgia shares with us the history and impact of Lake Lanier on Northeast Georgia, and beyond. Learn about the controversy surrounding the creation of the lake, the communities that once were (now underwater), lake legends, and what Lake Lanier offers locals and travelers to this day.
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Episode Notes How did tea become such a popular and culturally significant beverage over the centuries? Amanda Vermillion, a.k.a. The Tea Mistress, takes us on the journey of tea from the process of producing it to tea ceremonies and more.
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Episode Notes The History Center recently acquired thousands of glass negatives from local Gainesville, Georgia photography N. C. White who was clearly a master of photography in the late 1800s and early 1900s. This collection was provided to us by today's guest, photographic historian and collector Bill Riley. Hear the fascinating story behind this collection in this episode. More info at: www.negahc.org
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Episode Notes In today's episode, Dr. Alexander Wisnoski from the University of North Georgia discusses the differences between colonial era slavery in the early United States and that of Latin American colonies.
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Episode Notes Ahoy, mateys! We've brought Dr. Jeff Pardue back in to enlighten us about the Golden Age of Piracy, and to try and separate the fact from the fiction. (Hopefully, this will whet your appetite for our upcoming Virtual Family Day on Pirates!)
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Episode Notes Professor of Geology Jim Buecheler from Northern Virginia Community College takes us on a geological journey of how the Appalachian mountains were formed over millions of years. Learn the effects of continental collisions, mountain formations, and more in this ROCKIN' episode!
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Episode Notes The belief in ghosts was widespread during the Victorian era. Glen discusses how this belief shaped Western Victorian era life and spiritualism with Dr. Phillip Guerty from the University of North Georgia.
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Episode Notes Glen discusses the little-known yet highly influential impact of President, statesman, diplomat, and lawyer John Quincy Adams with Dr. Eugene Van Sickle, history professor and Assistant VP of Strategic Student Success Initiatives at the University of North Georgia.
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Episode Notes Stereotypes of Appalachian people and culture have circulated media for years, but where do these stereotypes come from and why? Glen discusses how Appalachians have been "otherised" over the years with Dr. Barry Whittemore, Professor of Appalachian history at the University of North Georgia.
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Episode Notes In this episode, Glen discusses the history of the sugar trade with Dr. Jeff Pardue, Professor of History and the Department Head for History, Anthropology and Philosophy at the University of North Georgia.
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Episode Notes Only ten years after the Wright Brothers' famous flight, military aviation took flight in World War I forever changing the tactics employed in war. Glen discusses the development of German aviation during World War I with Dr. Richard Byers, professor of European History at the University of North Georgia Dahlonega.
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Episode Notes Marie interviews country singer songwriter Janie Waddell about her experience as a rising artist in a genre of music with a long history. Janie performs her new song Push a Button for us at the end of this episode! Learn more about Janie Waddell at www.janiewaddell.com.
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Episode Notes In this oral history interview, Dana Chapman describes the experiences and challenges of seniors and non-profits in Hall County, Georgia during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Episode Notes In this episode, we share one of our oral history interviews with Kim Franklin from the Georgia Chapter of the Alzheimer's Association. Kim discusses the unique challenges that caregivers and those with Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia face during the COVID-19 pandemic. To learn more about the Alzheimer's Association, visit www.alz.org.
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Episode Notes Glen discusses the techniques, experiences, and misconceptions of the Georgia Gold Rush with Dr. Bryan Sorohan of Brenau University.
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Episode Notes Special guest and movie buff Matt House discusses the techniques and methodology of Alfred Hitchcock's thrillers just in time for Halloween!
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Episode Notes Appalachian Historian Dr. Barry Whittemore joins Glen for a fascinating conversation about the origins of Appalachian culture.
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Episode Note In this episode, Glen and Marie discuss the advances in medicine and nursing during the Civil War.
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Episode Notes Libba Beaucham interviews historian Sara Snyder on the ways in which rail systems changed Victorian era England. The rail station was a unique place in which people of different classes were brought together. Learn how these classes perceived each other, how rail changed over time, and what we can learn from the buildings, blueprints, and other sources of material culture.
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Episode Notes Glen and Dr. Ben Wynne explore the life of antebellum politician Henry Foote, the fascinating subject of Dr. Wynne's new book The Man Who Punched Jefferson Davis.
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Episode Notes Historian and professor Dr. Anne Tucker joins Glen in a discussion about the origins of American Exceptionalism -- just how exceptional are the ideas that founded the United States? Dr. Tucker brings her vast knowledge of the American South and international perspectives of American history in this fascinating episode!
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Episode Notes Medieval historian Dr. Thomas Greene joins us again for Part 2 of our series on the Medieval period. Glen and Dr. Greene dive into the top myths about Medieval life, how it is portrayed in pop culture, and more!
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Episode Notes Medieval people were all dirty, stupid, and superstitious, right? Nope! Join Glen and Medieval historian Dr. Thomas Greene as they discuss what Medieval folks were really like and the connections between their experiences and ours. This is part 1 of 2 and covers the Plague.
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Episode Historian, author, and professor Dr. Ben Wynne discusses the Blues in the American South with Glen during this virtual interview.
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Episode Notes Glen and Marie share their favorite historic sites from a family mill in Oregon to battlefields of old.
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Episode Notes Glen and Marie discuss their experiences as historians studying and vacationing abroad. In this episode, Marie and Glen recall their time in England and Oxford, the historic sites, the American experience in England, and the differences in education abroad.
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Episode Notes In this episode, Glen discusses Civil War reenactment with our new Director of Education Marie Walker! What is reenactment? How is it different than living history? What's it like to be a female reenactor? Find out in this episode!
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Episode Notes How did Medieval people affected by the Plague react to this pandemic? Ken and Glen explore how people understood the spread of disease and how they attempted to stop it.
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Episode Notes In this episode, Ken and Glen give some perspective on how populations have responded to the spread of disease from the Plague to the Spanish Flu to today's concerns with COVID19.
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Episode Notes Special Guest Lesley Jones explores the ties between Spiritualism and the Suffrage Movement in the late 19th and early 20th century.
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Episode Notes From sea to Norman Sea – well, maybe that’s a bit of an overstatement, but from the late 11th century through the end of the 12th century you could find Norman culture from the North Sea to the eastern end of the Mediterranean. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss how after a century and a half of expansion starting in 911, the Normans assimilated into conquered regions – and how their actions resonate to the present.
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Episode Notes So, William of Normandy, you’ve conquered England – now what? Well first, add “The Conqueror” to your name, then find a way to rule what you’ve conquered – spoiler, it’s harder to do. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss how the Normans managed to get on with the business of running a kingdom by relying on Anglo Saxon bureaucracy.
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Episode Notes Who are they?! Raiders from the North Land. Where are they from?! The North Land. What do they want?! Your Land. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss the rise of the phenomenally successful Scandinavian raiders from the North Sea who carried their name to Normandy, England, Ireland, Italy, Sicily, and the Middle East.
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Episode Notes A long time ago in a Colony far, far away…Deerskin Wars! Okay so it wasn’t that long ago, and it was actually right here in Georgia, but there _were _deerskin wars. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss the 18th-century trade of deerskin for manufactured goods and how competition in this extremely lucrative endeavor with rivalries between England, France, and Spain as well as rivalries between Creek, Choctaw, and Cherokees at times erupted into a trade war – and shooting war!
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Episode Notes The culture of the Anglo-Saxons at its apogee produced artistic, scholarly, literary and martial achievements that were recognized throughout Northern Europe and much of the Continent...and even though J.R.R. Tolkien never explicitly said that the Riders of Rohan were Anglo-Saxons on horses, you can tell. Join Ken and Glen as they discuss the rich Anglo-Saxon culture that died when King Harold II died defending the land of the English from the Bastard Norman William. Any mention of Tolkien is purely coincidental.
Photo of cups mentioned
The Alfred Jewel
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Episode Notes As the Anglo-Saxon peoples prospered on the island of Britain they developed a vibrant literature over time...wait, what's that? J.R.R. Tolkien was Professor of Anglo-Saxon Literature at Oxford? Well, how about that? Join Ken and Glen as they discuss - and recite! - the literature of the Anglo-Saxons...without mentioning Tolkien very much at all (you know, for them).
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Episode Notes So now that Ken and Glen have got talking about J.R.R. Tolkien out of their systems it's on to the Anglo Saxons. Wait, what's that? Tolkien was professor of Anglo Saxon at Oxford? Wow, what are the odds? But no, really, join Ken and Glen as they discuss the peoples that gave the island of Britain a name that endures to this day...
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Episode Notes In the popular imagination, the De Soto Expedition through the American Southeast is a bunch of Spaniards bumbling about in search of Gold - which is only partially true. In reality, there were Spanish, Moroccan African, Portuguese, French, Italian, and English men (as well as Spanish serving women and enslaved Native American women!) on the expedition. They were quite organized, and De Soto was looking to found a colony (not just find gold.) While he was still very definitely looking for gold...things didn't quite work out for De Soto, due in large part to a Mississippian Paramount Chief named Tuscaloosa. Join Ken and Glen as they discuss the Hernando De Soto Expedition of 1539-1543.
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Episode Notes Ok, so we can't really promise that this is the end of Ken and Glen musing on the life, works, and legacy of J. R. R. Tolkien - but we're going to at least stop recording them for a while! Join Ken and Glen as they resume/continue/extend the discussion of Tolkien, emphasizing some of the philosophy of creation found in his work, and life.
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Episode Notes We're taking a holiday break, but we'll be back in action in the new year! Happy Holidays, y'all.
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Episode Notes "It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas/Yule/Solstice/Saturnalia!" - Are you feeling the warmth of the festive holiday season? Which one?! There are so many traditions throughout the past for this time of year - Roman, Pagan Germanic, Medieval, Victorian. Join Ken and Glen as they joyously discuss the traditions associated with the winter season across time and space...well, Ken will be joyous - Glen's a bit of a Grinch!
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Episode Notes To both the Allies fighting in Western Europe and their Axis foe Germany it was the Eastern Front. To our erstwhile ally Soviet Russia, however, it was simply The Front, covering 1,000 miles of battleground in what was to them The Great Patriotic War – a war for survival with the Soviet peoples taking more casualties than any other nation of World War II. Join Ken and Glen as they discuss the Great Patriotic War, how it mage the Allied victory possible – and the Cold War inevitable.
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Episode Notes Ok, sure, giving thanks is relatively straight forward – you’re formally expressing gratitude for something, say like surviving…but what about that “first” part? First in the United States? First in the North American continent? First European in the North American Continent? You will not be surprised that we are delighted to hold forth on these details. Join Ken and Glen as they serve up a feast of thoughts on the “First” Thanksgiving.
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Episode Notes “I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone.” So said John Kennedy at a dinner honoring Noble Prize winners, but the man he was complimenting is an enigma that one line, no matter how clever, can define. Join Ken and Glen as they discuss the brilliant legacy and troubled reputation of Thomas Jefferson.
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Episode Notes 'Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.' – In August of 1945 atomic bombs were dropped on the Empire of Japan in an attempt to bring about its surrender before an invasion of its Home Islands by the Allies was necessary. But was the bombing itself necessary? Might Ken and Glen have opinions on the subject? Oh, you know they do. Join them as they discuss the development and deployment of the only nuclear weapons ever used, and what dual purpose their use had in 1945.
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Episode Notes Hold onto your hat (or your pipe-weed and elf-cloak) as we go on a deep dive into J. R. R. Tolkien and his works. The mythos and worlds Tolkien created have been celebrated in their own right, have influenced numerous other authors, and inspired some of the most popular fantasy/action films ever produced – but what’s really cool is the essay he wrote on Beowulf that redefined the way it’s taught and understood! In this episode Ken and Glen – in the first of who knows how many as they’re kind of obsessed with Tolkien – discuss Tolkien’s life, influences, WWI service, work as a linguist, love of trees, surprise at fame, love of beer and pipe smoking, being bitten by a baboon spider at age two…well, the list just goes on.
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Episode Notes Hold onto your hat (or your pipe-weed and elf-cloak) as we go on a deep dive into J. R. R. Tolkien and his works. The mythos and worlds Tolkien created have been celebrated in their own right, have influenced numerous other authors, and inspired some of the most popular fantasy/action films ever produced – but what’s really cool is the essay he wrote on Beowulf that redefined the way it’s taught and understood! In this episode Ken and Glen – in the first of who knows how many as they’re kind of obsessed with Tolkien – discuss Tolkien’s life, influences, WWI service, work as a linguist, love of trees, surprise at fame, love of beer and pipe smoking, being bitten by a baboon spider at age two…well, the list just goes on.
Fun note! The lovely cross stitch art on our episode cover was made by the History Center's own Lesley Jones! The center tree is the White Tree of Gondor, a symbol of the High Kings of Middle-Earth. It reads:
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them One Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
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Episode Notes Our Scariest Podcast Yet! – If, that is, you define scary as speculation on urban ascendancy over agrarian society as contributing to the rise of Halloween, and if you define scary as speculation on how the animated TV classic “It’s The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!” led to the pumpkin’s dominance over all other gourds/root vegetables at Halloween, and if you define scary as how cultural appropriation/assimilation by the Medieval Catholic Church prepared the ground for Halloween…and we do! In this episode Ken and Glen discuss Halloween’s origins and modern manifestations.
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Episode Notes Roma in Italia est – and so is this second of a two-parts episode on Rome. In this episode, Ken and Glen continue the discussion on the verisimilitude and accuracy of HBO’s “Rome”, and segue into the history of Rome itself, from just another village on the Italian peninsula to the longest lived super-power the world has ever seen…and you better believe they get Constantinople in there.
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Episode Notes All roads lead to Rome, and all podcasts do too. Ok neither of those things are true, but one of them (the one about roads) was kind of true back in the day - or “reversus in die illo” as the Romans would say. In this first of a two-part episode, Ken and Glen discuss Rome through the lens of the HBO mini-series…you guessed it, “Rome” – specifically how the series got the feel of classical Rome right.
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Episode Notes Victorian – is it a style of architecture? A trend in fashion? A system of morals? A movement in literature? A period of technology? Or an adjective derived from the actual human Queen Victoria that is so overused, misapplied, cliched, and imprecise as to be useless? Or the opposite of all that – except the Queen Victoria bit, that’s spot on. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss the era that defined 19th-century “progress” and inadvertently gave rise to Steam Punk.
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Episode Notes American Original - Quoting the fictional Michael Scott from TV’s The Office, “Abraham Lincoln once said that if you’re a racist I will attack you with the North.” The line is hilarious – and sadly accurately reflects how the popular imagination views Lincoln and the war for the nation’s preservation and rededication. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss Lincoln as a leader who drew a keen distinction between his personal beliefs and the powers of the Presidency, how he practiced and uplifted the concepts of civic responsibility, enlightened self-interest, and civic virtue envisioned by the Founders – and how he got along with Frederick Douglass!
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Episode Notes “There’s gold in them thar hills!” “Which whar ones?!” “I ain’t tellin’, Claim Jumper!” “Then I reckon I hafta shoot ya…” “How’s that gonna help ya?” I don’t know, I’m crazy with the Gold Fever!” That’s how it is in the movies, but the reality is quite different. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss how a Gold Rush plays out for the people involved, the communities that develop around the strike, and the legacies afterward.
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Episode Notes So, you say you want to work in a Museum, Historic Site, History Center, or Historic House? Good Lord, what’s wrong with you?!?! In this episode, Ken and Glen (two people who do know what’s wrong with themselves) discuss the straightforward and/or circuitous ways to enter the history field, as well as some surprising skills that help.
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Episode Notes Democracy in America... Good or Bad? Was famous newscaster, and completely fictional character from the animated show The Simpsons, Kent Brockman right when he opined “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - democracy simply doesn’t work!”? No, of course not - he’s fictional! But, what is democracy? How does the voice of the people work and how has it changed over time? They don’t necessarily know, but in this episode, Ken and Glen discuss what government of the people is and isn’t.
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Episode Notes Vikings? No, Scandinavians! Renowned merchants who had trading networks from the Baltic Sea to Constantinople! Simple farming folk who valued good land and built houses with roofs of turf! And oh, sometimes they’d get together in heavily armed groups and sail across the North Sea and up a river to murder some neighbors and take their wealth...that’s when they were “vikings”. Is that so wrong? Yes, yes it is - and in this episode, Ken and Glen discuss contrasts of Viking Myth and Scandinavian Reality.
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Episode Notes The ultimate Frontiersman – Daniel Boone! No – Davey Crockett! Wait, weren’t they the same coonskin hat wearin’, flintlock rifle totin’ guy? Nope, but the same guy, Fess Parker, did play them both on TV – thus confusing a generation. In this episode Ken and Glen head out to the Frontier to discuss what it is and isn’t, and just how accurate pop culture perceptions of The Frontier may be – Spoiler Alert: Not Very.
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Episode Notes Monuments and statues, history and heritage – how do they interact? Throw in the words “commemorate”, “honor”, and “our”, then use private funds to put something up on public land and THEN try to answer that question! In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss the very real difference between history and heritage and how the past can be interpreted or distorted in public spaces.
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Episode Notes Pirates? You mean murderers, robbers, extortionists, and kidnappers who prefer to work from a boat? No? Well, too bad – that’s what they are! In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss those people who in the popular imagination are happy-go-lucky, free-spirited, mischievous sailing enthusiasts, but who are in reality rum-soaked, syphilitic criminals. Enjoy!
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Episode Notes Dark Ages? What Dark Ages!? Did the light go somewhere? No, no it didn’t… In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss how a very misleading term for the Middle Ages came about (hint - it has something to do with Rome!) and why it has rightly fallen out of use...by them, anyway.
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Episode Notes “Retake the Holy Land!” Wait, wait, not so fast – what do you mean “retake”? The answer may surprise you! Actually, the answer will surprise you… In this episode Ken and Glen get medieval (one of their favorite things to do) and discuss the tangled, exciting, confusing, and adventurous (and centuries long!) events known as the Crusades.
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Episode Notes The metaphoric “Giant Leap” to the moon was giant indeed – about 238,900 miles. Good thing they had plenty of Tang to drink! – Even though Buzz Aldrin did say “Tang sucks.”! In this episode Ken and Glen discuss what didn’t suck about the Apollo 11 mission - namely the start of a new epoch for humanity as our species set foot on another world.
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Episode Notes Smart cars powered by electricity? How about your feet powered by what you had to eat! The need to get from one place to another is something that hasn’t changed since an early human first ran away from a lion to a modern human realizing the remote was across the room. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss travel’s fundamental importance in daily life – and how whether it’s procuring spices from the other side of the world or getting crops to market, you’ll be walking at some point.
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Episode Notes What if the newly minted United States had lost their War for Independence? Well, for one thing George Washington would definitely not be on any currency! It was certainly not a foregone conclusion that there would be an American victory and in the event Britain did pretty well despite losing. In this episode, Ken and Glen get whimsical and muse historic on how differently the course of events could have run if Britain had crushed the rebel scum – God Save the King!
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Episode Notes General Dwight D. Eisenhower called it “the Great Crusade, toward which we have striven these many months”, and remained the Allied soldiers that “The eyes of the world are upon you”. And indeed they were – the eyes of the Fascist regimes in Germany and Italy, of the Allied Soviet Union, of the Japanese foe in the Pacific, of occupied peoples everywhere. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss how monumental an undertaking was the invasion of Hitler’s “Fortress Europe” – and how catastrophic failure would have been.
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Episode Notes HEADLINE: Notre Dame Burns to the Ground! Wait, no it didn’t, it’s made primarily of stone… The Notre Dame du Paris fire of April 2019 served as a reminder that history is not the past, but rather a preservation of the inquiry into the people, objects, and views of the past – and that even an object as seemingly transcendent of history as a cathedral are still in constant conflict with time and change. In this episode, Ken and Glen discuss what history means in a preservation context, and the challenges of what to preserve and how.
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Episode Notes When you see the words “based on a true story” in the opening credits of a film assume that’s Hollywood-speak for “mostly lies”! Using the film “Green Book” and the discussion its Oscar-winning generated as a springboard, in this episode Ken and Glen delve into truth, seeming truth, and cinematic responsibility in film.
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Lewis and Clark! They’re movies were hilarious! Wait, that was Lewis and Martin, you know, Jerry and Dean… We’re talking Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, the men who led the Corps of Discovery to find out just what the heck Thomas Jefferson had bought with the Louisiana Purchase. In this episode Ken and Glen go to the Pacific Northwest and back with not just Lewis and Clark, but also the invaluable Sacagawea and the little known enslaved servant York.
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Episode Notes Well Pardner, pull yer horse up ‘round the chuck-wagon an’ play a hand of poker ‘round th’ campfire while trick shootin’ a rattlesnake off a cactus with yer six-gun…or forget that nonsense and let’s talk about the real West! Though what most people think of as the Old West realistically lasted only about 20 years, it has a vast mythology. In this episode Ken and Glen ride the range of those myths - and the realities behind them.
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Episode Notes So, what was World War I called before World War II tipped us off? The “Great War” – and not great as in wonderful, but great as in enormous or overpowering. To those born in the late 20th and early 21st centuries the magnitude of what The Great War meant to those who experienced it can be elusive – Ken and Glen try to provide a sense of it in this episode.
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Episode Notes Why should you care about a battle that took place in southeast England almost one thousand years ago? Because this podcast is in English, that’s why! The language sounds the way it does today as a direct result of that battle on October 14, 1066. Very few single days actually “change the course of History” – Ken and Glen tell you why this is one.
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Episode Notes Just when you thought it was safe to click back in, more musings - fine, pontificating! - on the so called “American Revolution”. In this episode Ken and Glen continue holding forth on military tactics, civilian support or indifference, Loyalists, the Enslaved, diplomacy – and the French!
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Episode Notes What's fact and what's fiction in the popular stories of the American Revolution? Ken and Glen dissect the myths of the American War for Independence.
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Episode Notes Game of Thrones is so much more that an adaptation of a Dungeons and Dragons gaming session. It’s also an adaptation of European Medieval history! Doesn’t George R. R. Martin have any ideas of his own!? Of course he does, and in this episode Ken and Glen discuss how he takes factual underpinnings and transforms them into realistic high fantasy.
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Episode Notes Best Hollywood movie ever made or Greatest Hollywood movie ever made? Our answer may surprise you…ok, it won’t surprise you – we love it! Ken and Glen look at the film from the perspective of the 1940s audience that made it a hit, with an in-depth focus on the topical references and symbolism that can be missed today.
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