The Long View: Recent Episodes

Clare O'Neil MP

On The Long View we sit down and talk to some of Australia’s brightest minds and deepest thinkers about what COVID-19 — and our response to it — might mean for the future of our country.

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In this epilogue to Season 1 of The Long View, Clare reflects on the insights gleaned and themes emerging from her conversations with 34 of Australia’s leading voices and big thinkers about what COVID-19 - and our response to it - might mean for the future of our country.Clare will be back with another season of The Long View in the not-too-distant future. Until then, stay in touch with Clare and continue the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In the final episode of Season 1, Clare is joined by two long term thinkers for a surprisingly hopeful look into how COVID might affect the climate change discourse: Rebecca Huntley, one of Australia's foremost social researchers, and the author of 'How To Talk About Climate Change In a Way that Makes a Difference'; and Anna Skarbek, CEO of ClimateWorks Australia, and a founding director of the Clean Energy Finance Corporation.Australia and the world currently face two catastrophic crises, and yet one has seen the total focus of governments while the other has not. COVID and climate change share many similarities—the threat of severe suffering and major economic consequences, the need for collaboration and change. So what have we learned from this one? What should we learn? And how do we make sure climate change action underpins all our goals as we work to rebuild and grow the Australian economy?Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this episode of The Long View, Clare is joined by two inspirational Aboriginal leaders: Linda Burney, a proud member of the Wiradjuri nation who became the first Aboriginal woman to serve in the Australian House of Representatives, and Inala Cooper, a Yawuru woman who serves as the Director of Murrup Barak, the Melbourne Institute for Indigenous Development at University of Melbourne.COVID-19 has been accompanied by massive social upheaval, with Black Lives Matter bringing about what appears to be a fundamental shift in the way this country thinks and talks about Indigenous affairs. Yet we still have no clear path forward on the Uluru Statement, and very little progress on the now changing Closing the Gap targets. So what does the future look like for this movement, and what needs to change? Linda and Inala share their hard-won and heartfelt insights on Black Lives Matter, activism vs pragmatism, compromise, disappointment, and what they need from allies who want to walk alongside them.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this episode of The Long View, Clare looks at skills, vocational education and training with two skills experts: John Daley, former head of the Grattan Institute and now senior fellow at Grattan with a special focus on skills and education; and Megan Lilly, head of workforce development at the Australian Industry Group, the peak body for Australian industry.It's clear that Australia's VET system isn't where it should be, with skills coming up again and again throughout this season. Businesses need more workers with better skills, young people need more guidance, and governments need to step up. COVID-19 presents both threats and opportunities: with unemployment skyrocketing and skilled migration now on hold, what are we going to do to retrain and re-skill our workforce? How can we ensure our training system is giving graduates the skills they need? Why is quality so low, and non-completion rates so high? And why on earth hasn't this been fixed already? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this episode of The Long View, Clare chats with two future of work experts: Amit Singh, former head of global policy at Uber and a former economics adviser to Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard, now at AlphaBeta consultancy; and Dr Jim Stanford, director of the Australia Institute’s Centre for Future Work and founder of the Progressive Economics Forum.The future of work has come hurtling towards us faster than we could have imagined due to COVID-19, with vast numbers of Australians now working from home, travelling less and adopting platforms like Zoom throughout their working lives. But what else have we learned about our working future from this crisis, and what existing problems is it time to start addressing? How do we get Australians dignified, secure work that supports them throughout their lives? Are the gig economy and other so-called innovations the end of work as we know it, or are they just capital, finding another clever way to deprive workers of their hard-won rights? And are robots really going to steal our jobs?Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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This week, Clare is joined by Jess Hill, award-winning author of “See What You Made Me Do”, in an open and frank conversation about domestic abuse.During COVID, Australians have been forced to stay in their homes. But for some Australian women, home is the most dangerous place they could be.Seven Australians have been killed by domestic terrorism in the last decade. Eight Australian women were killed by their current or former partner in May, this year alone.For everything you have heard about the fight against domestic abuse in the last five years, this problem is growing in severity and frequency.Why?Why do men use violence against women they say they love?Why aren’t we doing a better job of keeping women and children safe, when this is the biggest community safety problem in our country?How can we talk about domestic abuse in a way that will bring men to the table?And, why the hell isn’t this problem getting the enduring national attention it deserves?Join us for this really important discussion, and hear more about what we could change to make Australia a safer place for women and children.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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This week, Clare is joined by AWU National and NSW Secretary Daniel Walton and former long-term Australian Industry Group CEO Heather Ridout to discuss the future of manufacturing in Australia. After decades of decline, there's suddenly a very serious and very real conversation underway about rebuilding this essential part of our economy, with COVID-19 raising both concerns and opportunities. It's clear the interest is there, but what do we really mean when we argue for a resurgence in manufacturing? What does Aussie manufacturing look like in a modern context? What should it look like? And what policy levers need to be pulled to get us there? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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This week, Clare is joined by lawyer and community advocate Nyadol Nyuon and journalist and author George Megalogenis to discuss some themes going right to the heart of who we are as a nation: race, immigration, and multiculturalism. COVID-19 has shone an unexpected spotlight on these topics, raising deep questions for a society that claims to pride itself on its diversity. Why has Black Lives Matter only taken off now? What’s it really like being a person of colour in Australia? What does a pause in migration mean for modern Australia? And what do we need to do to make the post-COVID Australia a more inclusive society than the one that came before? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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This week, Clare is joined by Press Gallery legends Paul Bongiorno and Amy Remeikis to discuss the future of Australian journalism. Clare, Amy, and Paul discuss the ways in which reporting has changed over the past few decades, and the challenges journalism faces: shrinking newsrooms, concentrated ownership, the decline in regional reporting, digital disruption, concerns about press freedoms, and the spread of fake news online. The Australian media is at a tipping point, with longstanding trends accelerating and new problems compounding old ones. Can politicians get away with more than they used to? Does government have a role in fixing the problems? And what should we all be doing to strengthen the Fourth Estate? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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COVID-19 may have been especially dangerous to older people, but the COVID-19 recession will be especially harmful to the young. The industries most affected by the shutdown are dominated by young workers, many of whom are casually employed, and the ongoing impacts of a recession will be felt by this generation for years to come. But why were Australia’s young people in such a precarious position in the first place? This week on The Long View, Clare chats to three young women about the challenges facing young Australians in 2020: Shara Teo, an organiser and advocate with the United Workers Union; Tiana Sixsmith, a co-facilitator of YACVic’s submission into the Royal Commission into Victoria’s Mental Health System, who is from a regional background herself; and Nuriyah Haque, the Victorian State Director for Oaktree, and a member of this first group of Australians to graduate into a recession in almost 30 years. Young people were already experiencing high rates of un- and underemployment, and they faced major difficulties getting a foothold in today's workforce, even before COVID struck. Mental health issues are more commonplace than any generation before them, and young people are becoming less engaged in the political process, with successive governments failing to address their concerns. Why is it so difficult to get a decent start in today’s workforce? Why are so many young people in insecure work? What is it that they want government to be doing to get things back on track for young people? And how do they feel about all that debt? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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Many of the burning questions about how Australia can best recover from the COVID-19 crisis revolve around our industry and innovation policy settings. This week on The Long View, Clare is joined by two incredibly experienced thinkers on industry and innovation: Simon Crean, former Labor leader, ACTU president and minister in the Hawke, Keating, Rudd and Gillard governments, and Roy Green, Emeritus Professor, Deputy Vice Chancellor at UTS and globally recognised expert on this subject. There’s little doubt that government will be involved in our economy for years to come, but how will it be involved? And what will it do to get us back on track? COVID-19 has ignited a national discussion about our economic sovereignty, with many Australians asking whether there are some things that we should be able to produce in our country that we cannot today. There is an almost tangible yearning for manufacturing in Australia, an industry that has suffered from years of neglect. If we’re going to revive manufacturing in Australia, what will that look like and what should we be focused on making here? At a broader level, COVID-19 is giving Australians a chance to step back and look at our economy. Is the kind of growth we’re generating the right kind - the kind that will lead to a better standard of living for the next generation? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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This week on The Long View, Clare is joined by Ged Kearney, a nurse, former President of the ACTU and now Federal Labor MP for Cooper, and Sara Charlesworth, Professor at RMIT and Director of the Centre for People, Organisation and Work, to discuss some of the challenges faced by women in the workforce, and the ways in which the COVID-19 pandemic has brought them to the fore. For many Australians the experience they have during the COVID-19 crisis will depend greatly on whether they are male or female. Women are more likely to be on the frontline, in health or caring roles. They’re more likely to have lost work since the crisis began, and are more likely to fall short of being eligible for JobKeeper. They're more likely to be doing the lion’s share of the additional domestic work at home, and they’re more likely to be in a situation of domestic violence. These disproportionate impacts tell us something important about the country that we live in. Men and women perform different roles in Australian society. Is that the society we want to live in? When work such as aged care and early learning are so crucial to the functioning of our community, why are these workers so poorly paid? And in a modern, forward-thinking country like Australia, why does so much of the domestic burden fall on women’s shoulders? COVID-19 has caused some of these longstanding problems to become amplified, but has it also given us the opportunity to look at them with fresh eyes and change some of these dynamics? Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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COVID-19 has reshaped how many Australians use digital technology. Will these changes last? And what will it mean for how we live and work long term? How can we use COVID to generate jobs of the future for the next generation?This week on The Long View, Clare chats with two legends of the Australian startup community: Paul Bassat, co-founder and partner at Square Peg Capital, and Didier Elzinga, CEO and founder of Culture Amp. The tech sector is used to disruption and adapting to change, but the COVID-19 crisis has redefined those concepts, so what will be the long term impacts for the digital economy in Australia?There are a lot of big questions being asked across the public and private sectors about what Australia’s economy should look like after the coronavirus crisis is over. Will we successfully reboot old industries that have naturally declined in Australia, such as manufacturing? What about the new industries and our digital economy?Innovation and technology have always been crucial in considering how we create a brighter future for Australia, but with COVID-19 resulting in a whole heap of wicked problems to solve, the startup ecosystem might be where we will find some of our solutions.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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What will the nature of government and the practice of politics look like on the other side of COVID-19? This week I am fortunate to be joined on The Long View by Barrie Cassidy and Steve Bracks to discuss how Australia’s democratic institutions are weathering this crisis and how they might emerge from it better than ever. People’s faith in government and politics has been in decline for over a decade, but as the COVID-19 crisis threatens the health and economic prospects of millions of Australians, trust in government and our political leaders has rejuvenated. Have Australians decided our democracy is actually in pretty good shape, or will we soon see cynicism creep back in during the coronavirus recovery? What can we do to ensure we take the right lessons from our recent past and give the Australian electorate confidence to keep the faith? Barrie and Steve bring a wealth of political experience to this discussion. Barrie reflecting on his days of dealing with crises as Bob Hawke’s press secretary, Steve discussing the challenges of cooperation between state and federal governments as Premier of Victoria. They also share some insightful thoughts on the opportunities for improving Australia’s democracy post-COVID. Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series. You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmp Instagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmp Facebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this week’s episode of The Long View we survey the international landscape. I’m joined by Greg Sheridan, foreign editor at The Australian since 1992, and Michael Bachelard, editor and former Indonesia correspondent for The Age. We discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of globalisation for Australia in the time of Coronavirus.COVID-19 has brought the globalisation project under an intense level of scrutiny. International borders are closed and nations are responding to the virus independently. The WHO is under fire, supply chains disrupted and the future of trade and tourism shrouded in doubt.Proponents of globalisation say it can be resuscitated post-COVID, while critics say our level of global integration can never be the same again. More importantly, what version of globalisation would be in Australia’s best interests on the other side of this crisis?We get stuck into Canberra, Beijing, Jakarta, Geneva, Washington and more. Are we ready for a world post COVID-19 or terribly underprepared?Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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The Australian Government’s response to COVID has created a mountain of public debt. And there is a lot more to come.In this episode of The Long View, Clare chats with Emma Dawson from Per Capita and Danielle Wood from the Grattan Institute about what this means for Australia.Is public debt bad? Do we really need to pay it back? Who should pay it back? How? When? How does Australia’s balance sheet compare to other countries? And why has it been so hard for Australian treasurers of recent times to deliver a surplus?Clare, Danielle and Emma chew over these conundrums, as well as unpacking Modern Monetary Theory, opinion polls, land tax, and what it might take to get Australia out of the economic hole COVID will leave it in.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this week’s episode of The Long View, Clare discusses economic reform with Tim Reed, President of the Business Council of Australia, and Andrew Charlton, economist and founder of AlphaBeta Advisers.As Australia’s health numbers on COVID improve (long may it last) the conversation in policy circles has focused squarely on economic reform.But what should we be trying to achieve through reform, what might it look like, and how do we make sure the changes we make benefit everyone?Clare, Tim and Andrew also tackle a few curly questions: When business complain about regulation, are they just trying to get out of following the law? Is digital technology really the answer to all our problems? And how do we stop sacred cows from breeding and multiplying?Tune in for a Long View perspective on where we might end up if the COVID crisis allowed us to fix a bunch of economic problems that have been holding Australia back for a long time.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare and join the conversation on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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In this first episode of The Long View, Clare has a chat with two of Australia’s most respected economists: Professor Jeff Borland from Melbourne University, and Danielle Wood from the Grattan Institute.Together, they explore the impact of the COVID-19 crisis on employment, and contemplate what the labour market might look like on the other side.In a wide-ranging discussion, Clare, Jeff and Danielle open some big cans of worms: Who is losing work right now and why? How will the picture change over the coming year? How are the impacts of coronavirus different for low skill workers vs high skill workers? Will gender inequality be further entrenched – and what is ‘time inequality’?And, are today’s young people economically doomed? What can we do about it?With pit stops to discuss books and bread baking, this fascinating conversation will leave you with much food for thought about what we want our labour market to look like on the other side of this crisis, and how we might get there.Please leave us a review, let us know what you think, and subscribe to stay up to date with the series.You can also follow Clare on social media:Twitter: twitter.com/clareoneilmpInstagram: instagram.com/clareoneilmpFacebook: facebook.com/clareforhotham

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The Long View is a new podcast where I’ll be talking to some of Australia’s brightest minds and deepest thinkers about what coronavirus—and our response to it—might mean for the future of our country.What jobs will Australians work in? What will our economy look like? How big will the state be? How will entrepreneurship and innovation be transformed? What new opportunities do we have to solve big national problems? And how on earth are we going to pay back all this government debt?We’ll be releasing a new episode every week, asking tough questions and digging up some fresh thinking.The Long View is a chance to step back from the rolling news and take a look at what this all means for Australia. Cos one way or another, our post-corona future is on its way.