Rethinking God with Tacos Podcast: Recent Episodes
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Rethinking God with Tacos is Derek Turner and Jason Clark, two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is like Jesus; that God is love and His love is better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical understanding; just two guys and some amazing guests, rethinking.
What happens when church hurt, stage IV cancer, and deep theological reconstruction collide with an unshakable conviction that God is better than we've been told? In this deeply vulnerable conversation, Micole and Bethany Wallace share their remarkable journey—from serving fourteen years as worship pastors, to losing the ministry they thought would be home forever, to discovering Restoration City, walking through reconciliation with former friends, and facing Bethany's stage IV breast cancer diagnosis.
Together they explore union with Christ, emotional healing, the impact of trauma on the body, the restoration of relationships, and the radical trust that grows when we stop pleading with God and begin to rest in His unwavering goodness. It's a conversation about worship, healing, forgiveness, hope, and the long game of love that reminds us reconciliation is not just possible—it's at the very heart of the gospel.
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Micole and Bethany lead worship for our Rethinking God with Tacos Reunion. Join us this Sept (24-26) in Charlotte.
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Jason and Brooke Waters sit down with Stephen K. De Silva for one of the most practical conversations you'll hear on identity, money, and the goodness of God. Together they explore why belief systems always outrun financial skills, how orphan thinking quietly sabotages our lives, why adoption is the heart of the gospel, and what it looks like to build a prosperous soul instead of merely accumulating wealth. If you've ever wrestled with fear, scarcity, performance, or wondered how union with the Father transforms the way you live, work, and steward what you've been given, this conversation offers a refreshing vision of freedom rooted in beloved identity rather than striving.
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In this conversation, Jason and his son, Ethan, sit down with Jim Lovejoy for an honest, deeply personal discussion about leaving behind performance-based Christianity and discovering the freedom of beloved identity. Jimmy shares his remarkable journey from Marine, coach, and revival-driven evangelist to a father, mentor, and voice calling people into rest, family, and the love of God. The guys explore the difference between striving and learning, revival and reformation, church as an event versus church as family, and why the future of the Kingdom may look more like fire pits, shared meals, and authentic relationships than polished stages. If you've ever wondered whether God's love is bigger than your performance, this conversation offers hope, healing, and a fresh vision of what it means to follow Jesus.
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Justin Paul Abraham joins Jason for one of the most expansive conversations, exploring what happens when the gospel is no longer driven by fear, but by union, joy, and the limitless goodness of God. Together they unpack mystical encounters, the logic of love, contemplative spirituality, technology, creativity, AI, the future of humanity, and why the Kingdom isn't retreating from the world—it's transforming it. From the charismatic movement to ancient Christian mysticism, from heaven invading earth to discovering Christ in every corner of creation, this conversation invites listeners into a bigger, brighter vision of the gospel where love is the organizing principle of reality, and the future has never been more hopeful.
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This conversation with author and podcaster Latoya Lackey is about rest, identity, union with God, and the exhausting weight of performance-driven faith. Together, Jason and Latoya unpack how fear-based religion, striving, comparison, and the need for validation keep us disconnected from the peace Jesus modeled. Through stories of burnout, awakening, marriage, ministry, belonging, and discovering the goodness of God, told by voices like Baxter Kruger and the early church fathers, this conversation becomes an invitation to stop living from pressure and start living from presence. If you’ve ever felt exhausted trying to prove yourself to God, others, or even yourself, this episode feels like a deep breath for the soul.
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In this deeply honest and hope-filled conversation, Jason sits down with James E. Alderman and Larry Hudson to unpack “the gospel they grew up on” and the journey of waking up to a God who has never turned away. Together they explore fear-based religion, the Romans Road, transactional Christianity, healing, union, identity, and the radical discovery that God is better than we imagined.
Through stories of pastoring, deconstruction, friendship, prayer, suffering, healing, and grace, this episode becomes an invitation to stop striving for God’s affection and finally learn how to live loved. If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, separation, church hurt, or trying to earn what was already yours in Christ, this conversation will feel like fresh air for your soul.
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What happens when pain tears apart the version of God you were handed? In this deeply moving conversation, Jason sits down with author Katherine Gantlett to explore grief, miscarriage, breast cancer, hope, prayer, and the relentless goodness of God revealed in Jesus. Together they wrestle through questions of suffering, sovereignty, identity, union, and what it means to discover that God never abandoned us in winter seasons. From Brad Jersak and Paul Young to Psalm 22, Julian of Norwich, “Hygge for the Heartbroken,” and the healing power of presence, this episode is a raw and beautiful invitation to stop future-tripping, embrace the divine dance, and discover that even in the depths, Christ is deeper still.
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https://katherinegantlett.org.uk/
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In this episode, Jason sits down with singer/songwriter Godfrey Birtill for a raw, funny, and moving conversation about outrageous grace, creativity, religion, and the scandalous goodness of God. From psychiatric wards to worship conferences and presence-filled songs, Godfrey shares how divine encounters, playful creativity, and a deep understanding of grace transformed his life and music, inspiring a fresh perspective on God's love and the power of song. He also shares the story behind lyrics that have carried healing to thousands. Together, the fella explore what happens when the gospel stops being about performance and starts becoming an awakening to union, love, and the realization that God has never been disappointed in us.
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This episode highlights Jason and Baxter Kruger’s show Across All Worlds. In this conversation, they explore the profound depths of the gospel, focusing on the ransom of Jesus, the restoration of justice, and the transformative love of God. The discussion challenges traditional views, emphasizing a Christological lens and the divine exchange that redefines our understanding of justice and sonship.
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What if the gospel is better than we thought? In this live conversation, Jason joins Tommy Miller and Bobby Shane Brooks at the Homecoming Conference to explore union, sonship, healing, friendship with God, and the awakening happening in the Church today. From stories of heartbreak and family to revelation and restored identity, to why Jesus kept His scars, this is a conversation about discovering that love is the long game.
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In this heartfelt and wide-ranging conversation, Jason talks with Tullian Tchividjian about his new book, Fragments of Freedom. They dive into radical grace, the beauty of an “unchained life,” and how true freedom in Christ dismantles religious performance, fear, and control. Filled with laughter, vulnerability, and passionate theology, the episode also celebrates music (especially Pink Floyd), recovery community, and the joy of simply enjoying the gift of life. It’s a refreshing, no-BS discussion about what happens when grace is allowed to be as disruptive and measureless as it really is.
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In this enriching conversation, Jason Clark welcomes back theologian and author Thomas Jay Oord for a deep dive into uncontrolling love, open and relational theology, and his groundbreaking new book, A Systematic Theology of Love. They explore rethinking God's power, the nature of love as the center of theology, navigating scripture through a Christological lens, mystery and reason, life after death, and why God is not in control but is perfectly loving. The discussion also touches on Oord’s spiritual nature film Seer, photography, and living in relational trust with a responsive God.
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In this conversation, Jason Clark and Schlyce Jimenez step into one of the most provocative edges of the gospel: what if resurrection isn’t just a future promise—but a present reality? Moving beyond familiar language around union with God, they explore what Schlyce calls “the gospel of immortality,” a radical reimagining of life, death, and participation in Christ. Together, they wrestle with consciousness, the illusion of separation, and the possibility that humanity is awakening to a new way of being—one where love, not death, is the governing reality. This isn’t about neat answers; it’s an invitation to explore, to question, and to step into the mystery of what it means to live fully alive, right now.
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This conversation is a rich, honest exploration ofdeconstruction, charismatic culture, union with God, suffering, anger, and the actual shape of the gospel. Jason and John Crowder move past surface-level recent controversy and into the deeper issue beneath it all: separation-based theology. Rather than framing churchfailures as simply “gifting versus character,” they discuss the issue of Christology—whether our identity is rooted in union with Christ or in striving, performance, and spiritual hierarchy.
The guys unpack how revival culture, moralism, and celebrityChristianity often creates blind spots that protect systems over people, while the true gospel restores beloved identity, co-suffering love, and embodied grace. The conversation ultimately returns to Jesus—not as a spiritual ladder to climb, but as the revelation that we are already included, already loved, and invited to participate in a kingdom shaped by self-giving love rather than power, outrage, or control.
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In this deeply honest and sacred conversation, Lily Crowder shares the unthinkable journey of losing her 15-year-old son to suicide—and the slow, tender trust that followed. The conversation explored grief, trauma, and the dismantling of the God we thought we knew, making space for a bigger, more present God who meets us in our darkest places. This episode isn’t about easy answers—it’s about learning to sit in pain, to feel what we’ve been taught to avoid, and to rediscover beauty in the smallest moments, like the sound of birds breaking through the silence. If you’ve ever faced loss, wrestled with faith, or wondered if healing is possible, this conversation offers language, companionship, and hope.
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What if heaven isn't a distant destination — but a different dimension that's closer than we think?
In this conversation, Jason sits down with theologian, pastor, and author Brian Zahnd to explore his new book Unseen Existences — and what it means to recover a vision of transcendence in a world flattened by consumerism, politics, and pragmatism.
We talk about why losing sight of heaven turns Christianity into partisan politics. The pilgrimage of the soul — and why nothing real happens fast. What Jesus weeping at Lazarus's tomb tells us about God's co-suffering with us. The prayer Brian prayed on June 4th, 2000 that changed everything. The censored chapter his publisher wouldn't let him include — and where you can find it. Judas, Lazarus, universal hope, and the long arc of love
Unseen Existences, which releases May 19th — Pre-order available now at brianzahnd.com
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Jason sat down with his dad, Lloyd—his best friend—to talk about Lloyd's memoir, The Life I Dreamed Of, a story they’ve been circling for decades. What unfolds is a journey through trauma, religion, and striving, into the surprising discovery that God was never distant. They explore the weight of calling, the lies of separation, and the slow awakening to a love that doesn’t need to be earned. This is a conversation about moving from fear to trust, lack to abundance, and performance to rest. And at the center of it all is this: you’re not trying to be enough, you are enough.
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This episode of Rethinking God with Tacos is a raw, live-recorded conversation exploring some of the most difficult theological questions—wrath, hell, suffering, justice, and human brokenness—through the lens of a God who is fundamentally love. Recorded at Grace Orlando for the Sacred Undoing Conference, the throughline is a radical reimagining of God not as a distant judge but as a restorative presence, whose “wrath” is the fiery, healing force of love that seeks to destroy everything in us that is not of love’s kind, without ever harming our true identity. Through stories, humor, and honest dialogue, the conversation challenges traditional frameworks around sin, sacrifice, church, and judgment, reframing them as misunderstandings rooted in separation thinking, while inviting listeners into a deeper vision of union, restoration, and a God whose relentless affection aims to make us fully alive.
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2026https://web.unorthodoxexperiences.com/the-sacred-undoing-okc/
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In this rich and deeply moving conversation, Jason connects with Isi De Gersigny to explore the expansive, immersive, and measureless love of God. Together, they reflect on worship, trauma, healing, union, and the freedom that comes when we stop living for God’s approval and begin living from the realitythat we are already beloved. This episode is a beautiful invitation beyond fear, separation thinking, and performance-based faith into the wide-open life revealed in Jesus. If you’ve ever wrestled with God’s goodness, deconstruction, or what it really means to live loved, this conversation will stay with you.
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Tommy Miller, Bobby Shane Brooks, and Jason have a powerful conversation about union, identity, and the goodness of God, exploring how much of modern Christianity has framed the gospel through separation, behavior, and fear rather than inclusion, belovedness, and Christ-centered being. Tommy unpacks the difference between “tragic ontology” and “salvific ontology,” while Bobby shares his deeply personal story of losing his daughter and how the revelation of God’s unwavering love carried him through grief without turning him against the Father. Together, they reclaim salvation, healing, holiness, and identity through the lens of union, arguing that the delusion of separation is over and that the gospel is ultimately the awakening to who we have always been in Christ.
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In this conversation, Cary Brown, PhD, discusses his new book Crisis of Maps. He shares his journey of rethinking theology, the impact of childhood maps on faith, and how the COVID pandemic catalyzed a global re-evaluation of beliefs. Discover practical applications for parenting, trauma healing, and living confidently in God's love. The guys explore themes of secure attachment, open systems, and the transformative power of love over fear. Cary emphasizes the importance of curiosity, trust, and listening to our bodies and God. This episode offers practical wisdom for living freely and exploring the vastness of God's goodness.
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In this conversation, Roy Rhoades shares his transformative journey from a legalistic upbringing to a deep understanding of God's love. He emphasizes the importance of community, connection, and the freedom that comes from living loved. The discussion highlights the shift from performance-based ministry to a love-centered approach, showcasing the power of love in action, especially in his experiences in India. Roy's insights on humility, childlikeness, and the significance of hearing God's voice resonate throughout the conversation, culminating in a powerful message about the beauty of union with God.
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Jason reconnects with his friend (and occasional co-host) Paul Golf for a laughter-and-theology conversation that starts with Dutch tacos and ends with a gospel that actually works outside a “climate-controlled” church environment. Paul shares the story behind Damascus: Encounter the Unexpected Christ—how transformative encounters with Jesus dismantled fear-based paradigms (wrath, separation, performative spirituality) and forced him to find new language for what he’d experienced. Together, they explore why “a prophet’s job is to remove fear,” why revelation comes before instruction, and how salvation looks less like “getting in” and more like waking up inside the Father’s house—from dreamland/nightmareland into the reality of union and perfect love that casts out fear—plus a quick preview of the Bristol (May 29–30, 2026) gathering.
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In this conversation, Mark Casto shares his transformative journey from a life rooted in legalism and performance-based ministry to one centered on beloved identity and God's unconditional love. He reflects on the challenges he faced, including panic attacks and the pressures of ministry success, and how these experiences led him to a deeper understanding of grace and the importance of family. Mark discusses the importance of community in spiritual growth and the challenges he faced while planting a church. Ultimately, he emphasizes the need to redefine success in ministry and the power of living in beloved identity.
Mark and Jason also explore themes of identity, self-discovery, and the journey of pastors in the context of a shifting church landscape. They discuss the importance of rediscovering one's true self, the challenges faced by shepherds, and the need for a reformation within the church. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of questioning authority, embracing beloved identity, and the genius of redemption in the Christian journey. Ultimately, they highlight the importance of community, connection, and the freedom to be oneself in the pursuit of faith and purpose.
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In this engaging conversation, Lisa Wentworth Couture and Jason explore the profound themes of love, identity, and healing through the lens of union. Lisa shares her personal journey of discovering God's love and the concept of 'Beloved Union,' emphasizing that salvation is not a transaction but a relational awakening to our true identity in Christ. They discuss the impact of shame, the importance of community support, and the inherent innocence within each person. The conversation culminates in a reflection on the simplicity of the gospel and the transformative power of truth and reconciliation.
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In this shared podcast conversation, Trevor Meier (Naturally Supernatural) and Jason explore their spiritual journeys, with a focus on sonship, the nature of God's love, and the importance of community in faith. They discuss their experiences in ministry, the impact of revival movements, and the shift from a transactional view of God to an unconditional love view. The conversation highlights the process of detoxifying from fear-based theology and embracing a life of union with God, ultimately awakening to the measureless love that defines their faith. The guys also explore the transformative journey of understanding the gospel, emphasizing themes of inclusion, identity, and living from love. They discuss the shift from a sin-focused mindset to one of acceptance and freedom, highlighting the importance of community. The dialogue also addresses the significance of friendship with God and the joy of sharing these revelations with others, while incorporating the light-hearted theme of tacos as a metaphor for connection and community.
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Jeromy Johnson, from Slutty Grace Podcast, partners with RGWT Podcast to host David Artman and Jason Clark. The fella's explore Christian universalism not as a fashionable doctrine or theological loophole, but as a coherent, compelling way of seeing God—one that only makes sense if Jesus truly reveals a God whose love is measureless, non-violent, and relentlessly restorative. They push back on dualism, punishment frameworks, and the “ticking clock” gospel (say the prayer before you die or you’re done), and instead explore union, consent, and restoration—a God who doesn’t “look away,” whose justice flows through love, and whose “aeonian” correction is about healing, not revenge. Along the way: early church fathers, time and eternity, “Dr. Evil vs Dr. Frankenstein” theology, parking-lot faith conversations, and a stunning story about meeting God at rock bottom—and wondering if that God is “allowed in church.”
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In this conversation, Nathan Apffel shares his journey with Brooke Waters and Jason from being a filmmaker in the action sports industry to being a creator of a docuseries that explores the complexities of faith and the church. He discusses his personal experiences that shaped his understanding of God, the role of fatherhood in his spiritual awakening, and the importance of transparency and accountability within the church.
Nathan emphasizes the need for the church to evolve and address its issues while highlighting the beauty of community and personal ministry. The conversation also sets the stage for the second season of 'The Religion Business,' which aims to confront deeper issues within the church and offer tangible solutions.
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This conversation is a warm, funny, deeply human tour through Peter Helms’ story—and the theology that leaks out of it like “liquid love.” Peter opens up about life in Germany: a wildly inclusive open-home rhythm where atheists, grandkids, and a “youth group” of 70+ year-olds all belong at the same table. Peter frames the gospel as an awakening to what’s already true: God is not “over there,” but in us, with us, and mysteriously everywhere—drawing bigger circles than we ever could. The throughline is union and kindness: love wins, fear shrinks, stage-platform hierarchies fall away, and the “good news” becomes less about convincing people and more about hosting them—through presence, story, food, laughter, tears, and the simple, stubborn refusal to leave anyone outside the circle.
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In this conversation, Chris Blackeby shares his journey through burnout, healing, and a profound shift in understanding God's nature. He discusses the importance of living from a place of union with God and the transformative power of faith and trust in God's provision. Chris also shares his transformative journey from experiencing deep pain and abandonment to discovering God's unwavering love and provision. He recounts miraculous encounters during his travels, emphasizing the importance of living from love. The discussion explores themes of identity, sonship, and the nature of faith, highlighting the shift from servanthood to friendship with God. Chris emphasizes that understanding God's character is crucial for a fulfilling relationship with Him, and he encourages listeners to embrace their identity as beloved children of God.
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In this end-of-year episode, Jason reflects on 2025, sharing personal stories and testimonies that highlight the transformative power of God's kindness and love. Jason emphasizes the importance of community connections and the impact of God's love in personal growth. The podcast culminates with a Taco Tuesday Teaching pulled from the Rethinking God with Tacos Circle Community. Jason speaks to how kindness is a foundation for transformation and authentic living.
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In this conversation, Brooke Waters and Jason reflect on their podcast journey, the growth of their community, and the importance of relationships in fostering connection. They discuss the impact of shared experiences, the significance of intentionality in conversations, and their plans for future events. The discussion also touches on personal stories, the joy of tacos, and the excitement for what lies ahead in 2026.
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In this engaging conversation, Michael Morrell and Jason explore the complexities of faith, spirituality, and personal journeys through various Christian traditions. They discuss the importance of contemplative practices, the role of consent in spirituality, and the significance of community and curiosity in navigating spiritual conversations. Morrell shares his experiences with mysticism and the transformative power of love, while also emphasizing the need for a holistic approach to faith that acknowledges both the challenges and the beauty of the journey.
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In this conversation, Carlos and Jason explore the themes of God's love, human dignity, and the impact of violence on perception. Carlos emphasizes that in the economy of God's love, everyone is worthy of dignity and life, and that seeing people through a divine lens is crucial to recognizing their humanity. The discussion highlights the dangers of dehumanization and the importance of the gospel in understanding and treating others as fully human.
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In this conversation, Bradley Jersak, Brooke Waters, andJason Clark explore the profound nature of divine love as revealed through Jesus Christ, particularly focusing on the significance of the cross and the concept of forgiveness in the face of violence.
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In this conversation between David and Jason, also featured on David’s podcast, Grace Saves All, the guys discuss Jason’s transformative journey from separation into union theology. This rich discussion delves into personal experiences, theological reflections, and the essence of understanding God’s love amidst life's challenges.
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The conversation took place at the 2025 RGWT Reunion with Baxter Kruger, Damon Thompson, Jamie Englehart, and Tommy Miller. It was hosted by Dubb Alexander and Jason Clark and explored the transformative power of the undiluted gospel and the role of the Holy Spirit in believers' lives, emphasizing the profound impact of proclaiming faith in Jesus.
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In this conversation, David de Vos shares his journey of faith, vulnerability, and the transformative power of God's love. He discusses his healing journey, the impact of his book 'Raw', and the importance of inclusion and acceptance in faith. David emphasizes the need to redefine ministry and evangelism, focusing on compassion and connection with others. He introduces his new book, 'Everyone is a Child of God', exploring the universal love of God and the journey of self-acceptance. The conversation highlights the significance of community and the call to love without borders.
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In this engaging conversation, Jason Clark and David Peck explore themes of faith, love, belonging, and the power of storytelling. They discuss the complexities of belief, the importance of curiosity, and the role of community in navigating life's challenges. David shares insights from his documentary 'Broken Courage' and emphasizes the healing power of stories. The conversation highlights the need for radical hope and the significance of love in our relationships and interactions with others.
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In this conversation, Jason connects with Channock Banet, whose union-with-God theology moves him beyond performance, separation, and Sunday-centric scorekeeping. Shaped by mentors like Jamie Englehart—and the humorous “Shanncock Bante” awakening from his book—Channock reframed church around one question: “Are we loving people well?” That shift birthed ReLife, a nonprofit that renovates homes, houses single parents at affordable rates, mentors them, then gifts back two years of rent so they can buy the home at cost. Family, hoops, and a legendary cauliflower taco round out a through line of living in the flow of love that transforms communities.
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In this engaging conversation, Rabbi Brian Zachary Mayer shares his journey from organized religion to a more inclusive understanding of spirituality, emphasizing love, kindness, and the importance of asking questions. He discusses the concept of original sin, the role of shame, and the transformative power of love in relationships. The dialogue also touches on the significance of humor and community in spiritual growth, as well as the journey of deconstruction and rebuilding one's faith. Rabbi Brian's insights encourage listeners to embrace their beloved identity and to approach life with compassion and kindness.
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In this heartfelt conversation, Cynthia Magallanes shares her journey of healing from childhood trauma and the impact of her books, which aim to help others navigate their own healing processes. She discusses the importance of identity, community support, and the conflict between understanding God's goodness amidst personal pain. Cynthia emphasizes the transformative power of love and the role of imagination in healing, as well as the significance of trusting God throughout the journey. The conversation also touches on the writing process and the message of her children's books, which seek to restore a sense of wonder and belonging.
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In this week's conversation, long-term friend and host of the Good Dirt, Bill Winn, sits down with Baxter and Jason to explore the sacred-secular divide that has shaped so much of Christian thinking. From hilarious tales of roosters and bees to profound moments about porta potties and car repairs, Baxter, Jason, and Bill unpack how the presence of the Father, Son, and Spirit infuses all of life—not just church services or “religious” activities.
Together they challenge the false split between sacred and secular, showing how every vocation, and every moment in life can all be seen as sacred as we participate in the great life and dance of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Then the conversation turns to explore what union with Jesus truly means. Together, they unpack how union ends religious striving, revealing that we have always belonged to the Father, Son, and Spirit—even before the foundation of the world.
Through personal stories, scripture, and practical insights, they show that union isn’t about trying to get to God but waking up to the truth that Jesus has already united himself with us—even in our darkest places. It is this good news that brings a peace and freedom beyond anything we’ve known before.
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This live 2025 Rethinking God with Tacos Family Reunion conversation with Baxter Kruger and Damon Thompson explores the profound themes of divine love, the nature of the gospel, and the importance of intimacy with God.
Hosted by Derek Turner and Jason, the guys discuss the concept of beloved identity, the significance of faith, and the transformative power of understanding one's union with God. Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, they emphasize the need for a deeper awareness of God's love and the invitation to live in that reality.
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In this conversation, Martijn van Tilborgh and Jason explore the complexities of faith, community, and the nature of God beyond traditional religious paradigms. They discuss personal spiritual journeys, the importance of grace, and the need for rethinking church structures to foster individual revelation and community connection.
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In this engaging conversation, Jamie Englehart, Matthew Hester, and Jason explore the themes of ministry, vulnerability, and the sacred-secular divide. They discuss the importance of recognizing God in all aspects of life, the call to full-time kingdom ministry, and the shift from traditional church structures to a more inclusive understanding of community and leadership. The conversation emphasizes the need for authenticity, healing, and sincerity in ministry, encouraging leaders to embrace their vulnerabilities and foster genuineconnections with others.
The guys also explore the themes of vulnerability, authenticity, and love within ministry. They discuss the role of armor bearers, the importance of community support, and the need for grace in leadership. The conversation delves into the nature of God's love and the journey towards maturity in one's relationship with Him. They emphasize the significance of being real and honest in ministry, as well as the transformative power of love.
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In this conversation, Steve Chalke and Jason explore themes of faith, love, and inclusion, reflecting on personal experiences and the legacy of influential figures like Tony Campolo. They discuss the impact of poverty and trauma on communities, the nature of God's love, and the importance of relational theology.
The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of traditional theological views, advocating for a more inclusive and loving approach within the church and society.
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In this heartfelt conversation, Malcolm Smith and Jason explore the beauty and friendship of the Holy Spirit. From stories of Malcolm’s teenage encounter with what he calls “liquid love,” to reflections on prayer, revelation, and union with the Trinity, this episode is full of wisdom, intimacy, and joy.
Malcolm shares how the Spirit has been his lifelong teacher and best friend—not a distant doctrine, but a living presence guiding him into all truth. Together, they challenge the separation mindset of much of modern Christianity, and instead emphasize wholeness, intimacy, and our mattering deeply to God. The conversation concludes with Malcolm praying Paul’s Ephesians 1 prayer—that the eyes of our hearts would be opened to see the hope, identity, and resurrection power alive in us.
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In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason delve into the themes of spirituality, the intersection of quantum science and faith, and the profound impact of words and declarations. They discuss the importance of understanding God's goodness, the necessity of kindness, and the power of the resurrection message over judgment. Vanderbush shares insights from his book 'Sound of Your Blood,' emphasizing the influence of human judgment on creation and the transformative power of love and kindness in spiritual conversations.
The guys also explore the transformative power of kindness, the importance of shifting atmospheres, and the relationship between identity and behavior. They discuss the significance of understanding one's identity as a child of God and how this realization can lead to co-creating with the Father. The dialogue emphasizes the journey of spiritual growth and the rediscovery of theology, highlighting the need for a deeper understanding of God's goodness and the nature of the Father-Son relationship.
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In this engaging conversation, Tullian Tchividjian and Jason explore the transformative power of grace and the theological shifts that lead to a deeper understanding of God's love. They discuss personal stories of struggle and redemption, the importance of safe spaces in relationships, and the cultural reflections on grace in society.
The conversation also touches on the role of recovery in understanding grace and the challenges faced within religious circles.
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In this podcast, Jason Clark introduces his new book, 'Rethinking God with Tacos,' which explores themes of union, relationship with God, and the nature of the gospel. He shares insights from various conversations with guests on his podcast, emphasizing the importance of understanding the gospel as good news and the relational aspect of faith. The podcast also highlights the significance of community and upcoming events related to the book.
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In this conversation, Mo Thomas, Brooke, and Jason explore the journey of faith, touching on themes of deconstruction, the intersection of science and spirituality, and the sustaining power of love. They discuss the challenges of certainty in faith, the importance of questions and doubts, and the profound nature of union with the divine. Through personal stories and insights, they highlight the transformative experience of rediscovering God and the role of storytelling in conveying deep truths about love and restoration.
The conversation also explores the concept of apokatastasis, the idea that love ultimately prevails, and the importance of seeing beyond distortions to recognize inherent goodness in ourselves and others. The dialogue emphasizes the liberation found in embracing divine awareness and the invitation to live authentically in the moment. They also touch on the limitations of certainty in religious contexts and the significance of community and connection in the journey of faith.
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In this engaging conversation, the Alexander family shares their journey of establishing a Kingdom culture within their family. They discuss the importance of friendship in parenting, the role of performing arts in their lives, and how they navigate purpose and identity. The family emphasizes the significance of open communication, understanding the Father's love, and living purposefully in alignment with their values. Personal stories of divine encounters and the importance of unity with distinction in family roles are also highlighted, providing a rich tapestry of insights into their family dynamics.
The conversation explores the importance of family support in pursuing individual purposes, the honor and respect within family dynamics, and the development of transformative educational resources for families. It emphasizes the significance of prophetic activation, creating spaces for friendship, and the healing of generational wounds. The discussion also addresses the need for detoxing from religious beliefs that hinder personal growth and understanding of God's goodness.
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In this conversation, Matt Pandel discusses his journey as a psychologist and author of 'Fractured Witness.' He shares insights on church hurt, the importance of community, and the need for vulnerability in healing.
The discussion explores the difference between systems and individual responsibility within the church, emphasizing that trust is earned and should not be conflated with honor. Pandel addresses the complexities of abuse within church systems and advocates for safe spaces for healing, ultimately highlighting the significance of understanding the nature of God and the church's role in fostering a supportive community.
This conversation also explores the intersection of technology and community, the complexities of fear and vulnerability, and the role of emotions in faith. They discuss the challenges of certainty in belief systems and emphasize love as a foundational element for unity within the church. The dialogue highlights the need for new approaches in church dynamics, focusing on understanding and connection rather than division.
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In this engaging conversation, John Crowder and Jason explore their personal journeys of faith, transformation, and the challenges of navigating spirituality in a complex world. They discuss the importance of community, the impact of personal experiences, and the shift in understanding God's love and grace. The dialogue also touches on the role of social media in shaping conversations about faith and the need to challenge religious myths. Ultimately, the discussion emphasizes the long game of love and the journey of discovery in understanding the goodness of God.
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In this conversation, Tommy Miller, Dubb Alexander, and Jason Clark discuss the themes of Tommy's book 'Unveiled', which challenges and reframes Western views of God, justice, and salvation. They explore the importance of theology upgrades, the role of Jesus in revealing the Father, and the shift towards a relational understanding of God.
The discussion emphasizes the need to understand salvation beyond an afterlife perspective and highlights the significance of human identity in the context of redemption. The guys delve into the intricate relationship between the spirit and the flesh, exploring themes of dominion, salvation, and the practical applications of faith. They discuss the significance of the human body in spiritual matters, the nature of certainty in faith, and how creation responds to human expectations.
Finally, the dialogue highlights the importance of community, connection, and the joy of sharing a transformative message, all while incorporating personal anecdotes and cultural references, particularly those centered on food and fellowship.
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In this conversation co-hosted by Dubb Alexander, Esther Weaver shares her journey of awakening to her true identity in Christ, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's origin. The discussion explores the shift from a transactional view of faith to one rooted in relationship and union with God, highlighting the need for the church to redefine its role in the lives of individuals.
Esther and the guys delve into the significance of love, sacrifice, and the transformative power of understanding one's identity in the context of the Trinity. They also spend some time discussing the role of the fivefold ministry in equipping believers.For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/
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In this engaging conversation, Keith Giles and Jason explore the themes of faith, deconstruction, and the significance of the Gospel of Thomas. They discuss the journey of understanding union with God, and the transformative power of grace. Keith shares insights from his numerous books, including 'The Quantum Gospel of Mary', and emphasizes the need to embrace mystery in spirituality. The discussion also touches on the connection between quantum science and spiritual teachings, highlighting the idea of non-duality and the essence of love in understanding God.
The guys delve into themes of faith, dualism, and the nature of God. They explore the implications of union with Christ, the perception of God through our own reflections, and the relational aspects of theology. The discussion also touches on quantum physics and consciousness, suggesting a connection between science and spirituality. They emphasize the importance of awakening to our interconnectedness and practicing awareness and gratefulness in our daily lives. The conversation concludes with reflections on the current great awakening and the need for community in navigating these spiritual journeys.
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In this conversation, Paul Young, Baxter Kruger and Jason Clark explore the profound themes of trust and the goodness of God. They discuss how trust is foundational to faith, the challenges posed by the problem of evil, and the importance of understanding emotions in the context of trust. The dialogue emphasizes the necessity of community in nurturing trust and the role of the incarnation in revealing God's goodness. Ultimately, they highlight the journey of living trustfully amidst life's complexities and the healing that comes from recognizing God's unwavering goodness.
The guys also explore the complexities of relationships, healing, and the nature of love. They discuss the importance of understanding anger, the role of women in expressing love, and the significance of language in spirituality. The dialogue emphasizes the need for transformation and maturity in one's spiritual journey, highlighting the dangers of a purpose-driven life and the distinction between covenant and contract in relationships. Ultimately, they advocate for living in the present and recognizing the union of the secular and spiritual as essential to experiencing true love and connection.
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In this engaging conversation, Peter Hiett shares on Genesis, and emphasizes the centrality of God's love in our identity and redemption. The guys explore the interconnectedness of creation, salvation, and the nature of God. They discuss how traditional narratives often start with human failure rather than God's success, emphasizing the importance of understanding disobedience as a space for God's mercy.
The conversation delves into the nature of time and eternity, the power of prayer, and the symbolism of the temple as a representation of love and sacrifice. Ultimately, they highlight the relationship between humanity and God, emphasizing that eternal life is about awakening to the goodness of existence and recognizing that what we take from God has always been given to us.
Peter and Jason also discuss the significance of the cross, the nature of faith as a divine gift, and the evolving state of the church in contemporary society. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of authentic worship and the communal experience of faith.
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This conversation explores the themes of deconstruction in theology, focusing on the necessity of Jesus' death and the transformation of humanity through the cross. Dubb Alexander and Ryan Pena discuss the importance of redefining faith, understanding the nature of God, and the implications of the incarnation and resurrection.
The guys emphasize the need for a deeper understanding of the gospel that restores humanity to its original design, moving away from traditional views of sin and separation.In this conversation, the fella's explore the themes of righteousness, forgiveness, and the nature of God, emphasizing the importance of understanding our identity in Him. They discuss the concept of universal forgiveness and the awakening to our true selves as children of God. The role of encounter in the gospel is highlighted, along with a redefined approach to evangelism that focuses on sharing the goodness of God rather than traditional methods.
The conversation explores themes of family, evangelism, the concept of hell, revival culture, and the nature of worship within a father-son relationship. They emphasize the importance of understanding God as a loving Father and the transformative power of a relationship with Him. The discussion also touches on the need for a paradigm shift in how evangelism is approached, the implications of revival, and the role of worship in expressing love and connection with God.
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In this conversation, Tom Cole and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of love, community, and vulnerability. Tom shares his personal story of encountering God amidst struggles with addiction and confusion, highlighting the pivotal role of love in understanding God's nature.
The guys discuss misconceptions about God, the impact of church hurt, and the necessity of authenticity in faith. The dialogue culminates in a powerful affirmation of God's unconditional love and the healing that comes from embracing vulnerability. Tom and Jason also explore themes of healing, identity, and the transformative power of God's love. They discuss the importance of understanding God through personal experiences and the Beatitudes as a guide for transformation.
The conversation explores the significance of overcoming shame through confession and the journey of discovering one's true identity. They also explore the awakening to innocence and the discovery of new modalities for connecting with God. The discussion concludes with light-hearted taco stories, emphasizing community and connection.
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In this conversation, Mario Andrade shares his journey, emphasizing the importance of understanding the Trinity and the concept of awakening to the light within. He discusses the role of the Father in spirituality, the illusion of separation from God, and the theological implications of union with the divine.
The conversation highlights the relational nature of faith and the transformative power of recognizing our identity in God. In this conversation, Jason Clark and Mario explore the themes of separation, identity, and the nature of sin from a theological perspective. They discuss how the doctrine of separation can lead to increased sin and shame, and how understanding one's identity in Christ can transform behavior.
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In this engaging conversation, Graham Cooke shares his journey from being an introvert to an ambivert, emphasizing the importance of humor and kindness in understanding God's character. He discusses the transformative power of personal encounters with God and discusses the concept of relational theology, highlighting how these experiences shape our spiritual growth.
Graham and Dionne Van Zyl explore the significance of breakthroughs in our lives, emphasizing that a true breakthrough is about who we are becoming, rather than just the resolution of our circumstances.
The guys also discuss themes of leadership and the transformative journey of faith. The dialogue emphasizes finding peace amidst chaos, the significance of hiddenness and manifestation in one's relationship with God, and the essence of faith in navigating disappointments.
Graham talks about how asking the right questions can lead to deeper understanding and relationship with God, and how a movement is being built to equip people in their spiritual journeys.
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In this conversation, Jason Clark and Justin Stumvoll explore the nature of God, near-death experiences, the transformative power of radical love, and the importance of emotional healing in understanding one's relationship with God. The discussion also touches on the concept of oneness with God, the impact of heavenly encounters, and the journey of reconciliation and legacy within families. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the restorative nature of God's love and the invitation to discover deeper connections with the divine.
Justin and Jason discuss how NDE experiences reveal unconditional love, the process of self-judgment, and the concept of justice as redemption. The dialogue emphasizes Earth as a unique opportunity for spiritual growth and understanding of the divine, highlighting the importance of choice in experiencing love and pain.
The guys present a vision of universal reconciliation, where all souls return to the truth of love. They discuss the importance of embracing the present moment, the journey of forgiveness, and the reframing of suffering and pain. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of trust in God, the fruit of love and humility, and the value of connection over agreement in spiritual discussions.
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In this conversation, co-hosted by Brooke Waters, Nannette Foster, an intuitive leadership coach, discusses her new book 'Intuitive by Design' and the importance of intuition in personal and spiritual growth. She shares her journey from a fundamentalist background to embracing grace and intuition, emphasizing the need for questions in spiritual development.
The discussion also touches on the concept of the Mother Heart of God and how intuition connects us to divine guidance. T
They discuss the impact of cultural and religious beliefs on one's ability to trust oneself and the importance of reconnecting with intuition to understand God's heart.
The dialogue emphasizes overcoming barriers to self-expression, the role of metaphors in understanding intuition, the concept of the flow state as a pathway to enhanced productivity and creativity, and the importance of partnering with God to bring about healing and transformation.
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In this conversation, Malcolm and Cheryl Smith explore the profound themes of relationship and covenant in the context of the gospel. Malcolm emphasizes the importance of understanding the gospel as a relationship rather than a mere contract, highlighting the significance of covenant as a deep, trusting connection.
The discussion delves into the nature of Jesus' incarnation, his suffering, and the ultimate goal of his mission, which transcends mere forgiveness of sins.
The conversation culminates in a reflection on righteousness and the commandment of love, emphasizing intimacy and union in our relationship with God.
They also explore the profound themes of friendship, identity, and the transformative power of faith. Malcolm and Cheryl emphasize the importance of understanding one's identity through Christ and the concept of metanoia, which signifies a shift towards seeing oneself and God in a new light.
The discussion delves into the significance of the Eucharist as a celebration of the incarnation and the mysteries of faith that connect believers to the divine. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the experience of God's love and presence in our lives, encouraging listeners to embrace the beauty of the gospel.
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In this conversation, David Tensen, Derek Turner and Jason Clark explore the evolving concept of elderhood in modern society, emphasizing the importance of intentional living and personal growth as we age. David speaks to the generational shifts that have led to a new understanding of maturity and the role of elders in guiding younger generations. The idea of decentering is introduced as a way to foster a more inclusive and compassionate approach to spirituality and community care, challenging traditional hierarchical structures.
The guys explore the themes of decentering various aspects of life, the evolution of the hero's journey as we age, and the importance of authentic relationships and companionship. They discuss the concept of gerotranscendence, the necessity of self-sacrifice, and the idea of a 'fat soul' that embraces complexity. The dialogue emphasizes the need for elders in a rapidly changing world and the importance of inhabiting our current life stages while learning from the past. The conversation culminates in the establishment of the Collective Wisdom Academy, a space for shared learning and growth.
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In this conversation, Robin Smit and Jason explore the themes of identity, the nature of God, and the journey of hybrid publishing. They discuss the significance of understanding one's true identity in relation to the finished work of the cross and how this understanding can transform lives.
The conversation also touches on the importance of generational awakening and legacy, emphasizing the goodness of God and the expansive nature of faith. In this conversation, they explore themes of personal growth, the power of positive self-talk, and the significance of understanding one's identity in Christ. They discuss the importance of self-reflection, the finished work of Christ, and the transformative nature of the gospel.
The conversation also touches on the role of imagination in spiritual life, the nurturing of young authors, and the excitement surrounding upcoming writing projects. Additionally, they discuss the importance of mentorship, the transformative journey of grace, and the diverse perspectives within the spiritual community.
They explore the role of love in spiritual growth, the challenges of publishing diverse voices, and the significance of creating safe spaces for dialogue. The discussion highlights the power of authentic encounters with God and the awakening that can occur through these experiences, as well as the future of spiritual media and its impact on the community.
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In this engaging conversation, Shawn Ring and Jason explore themes of faith, identity, and the journey of obedience in their lives. Shawn shares his background as a CEO of Avodah, and his experiences in the tech industry, emphasizing the importance of viewing oneself as a son of God rather than being defined by roles or titles.
The conversation highlights the transformative power of obedience and the relational aspect of faith, encouraging listeners to rethink their perspectives on God and their identities. The guys explore themes of faith, sonship, and the journey of disruption in their lives. They discuss the importance of navigating uncertainty, the paradigm shift brought about by the pandemic, and the challenge of institutional models in the church.
The dialogue emphasizes the significance of understanding one's identity in Christ and living in the mystery of faith, ultimately leading to a deeper relationship with God and a more authentic expression of calling. In this engaging conversation, Shawn and Jason explore faith-based leadership and innovation. They share humorous anecdotes about food fails, the importance of community, and the transformative power of generosity. The conversation also delves into the intersection of technology and spirituality, particularly in the context of AI and Bible translation, culminating in a reflection on purpose and calling in life.
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In this conversation, Kent Mattox and Jason Clark explorethemes of transformation, personal journeys in faith, and the challenges of ministry. Kent shares his experiences with Benny Hinn, the founding of the Transformation Community, and the significant shifts in his understanding of faith and theology.
The discussion delves into the complexities of starting achurch, navigating controversial topics, and the importance of seeking truth in a rapidly changing spiritual landscape. The fellas explore profound themes of mercy, salvation, and the nature of God. Kent reflects on his journey of understanding grace and the importance of love in transforming lives.
The discussion delves into the cosmic significance of thecross, the awakening to one's identity and design, and the call to live out the way of Jesus in community. Throughout, there is a strong emphasis on the relational aspect of faith and the liberating power of love.
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In this conversation, Dr. Bruce Wauchope and Jason explore the profound themes of the Gospel, focusing on the concepts of union with God, the nature of love, and the rejection of religion in favor of a personal relationship with Jesus. They discuss the journey from darkness to light, the importance of experience in faith, and the collective awakening to a deeper understanding of the Gospel.
Bruce shares his personal transformation and spiritual encounters, emphasizing that true spirituality is about knowing God as a loving Father rather than adhering to religious structures. In this conversation, the speakers explore profound themes of divine presence, the nature of the Trinity, and the transformative power of encountering God.
They discuss the importance of understanding love and union in faith, the unveiling of Jesus within humanity, and the implications for mental health and healing in the context of faith. The dialogue emphasizes a shift from a legalistic understanding of faith to one rooted in love and relationship, highlighting the deep connection between God and humanity.
Finally, they explore the journey of understanding faith, the historical foundations of Christian thought, and the importance of community in spiritual growth, discussing the role of grace, the nature of God, and the healing that comes through relationship with Him. The dialogue emphasizes the transformative power of Christ and the significance of love in the human experience, culminating in a reflection on physical and spiritual nourishment as a metaphor for the gospel.
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In this conversation, Tara Boothby, Brooke Waters, and Jason explore the intricate relationship between love, attachment theory, and spirituality. They discuss how our early experiences shape our views of self and God, the transformative power of love, and the importance of trust in relationships.
Tara shares her journey as a psychologist and how her understanding of love and attachment has evolved, emphasizing the need for a nonviolent approach to God and the healing process.
The discussion also touches on the concept of sin as a default behavior rather than a moral failing, encouraging a more compassionate view of ourselves and others. The conversation delves into the complexities of addiction, the cycles that individuals find themselves in, and the power of choice in breaking these cycles. They discuss the importance of removing shame and embracing one's identity, as well as the role of curiosity in fostering understanding in relationships.
The conversation also touches on the process of deconstructing faith, addressing spiritual abuse, and the journey of imperfection and redemption. Ultimately, they emphasize the joy of connection and acceptance, the importance of forgiveness, the complexities of relationships, the process of reconciliation, and the impact of alienation in personal connections. Tara emphasizes the significance of love and trust in navigating these challenges.
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In this engaging conversation with Brook and Jason, David Hayward, known as the Naked Pastor, shares his journey from a traditional pastor to a full-time artist and blogger. He discusses the power of art and cartoons in conveying complex ideas and emotions, particularly in the context of faith and deconstruction.
David emphasizes the importance of personal interpretation and understanding love within the church, especially regarding marginalized communities. His work challenges authority structures and promotes inclusivity, making a significant impact on those who feel excluded or misunderstood.
This conversation explores the themes of love, compassion, and community, emphasizing the indiscriminate nature of love and the importance of abundance over scarcity.
The conversation touches on the power of love, the role of the church in society, and the need for reform within religious structures. David shares his journey of deconstruction, emphasizing that questioning beliefs is a normal part of spiritual growth. He discusses the challenges faced by those who deconstruct within the church and the importance of creating spaces for open dialogue.
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In this engaging conversation, Jason and Stephen Roach explore the intersection of art, faith, and creativity. They discuss the importance of embracing failure, the value of dreaming, and the generational impact of their work.
Stephen shares his journey as an artist and instigator, emphasizing the need for honest reflection and the role of community in understanding God. The dialogue highlights the shift in their perspectives on spirituality and the significance of legacy in their creative endeavors.
The guys explore themes of disappointment, identity, and the creative journey, particularly in the aftermath of COVID-19. They discuss the importance of journaling, reflection, and community in navigating challenges and cultivating hope.
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Exploring The Intersections of Art, Faith and Culture: A Creative Arts Gathering in Winston Salem, NC March, 21-23, 2025
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In this conversation, Jason Clark and Gary Grant explore the transformative journey of faith, the evolving dynamics of the church, and the importance of creating safe spaces for spiritual growth. Gary shares his personal experiences, including a significant breakdown that led to a deeper understanding of covenant relationships versus contractual ones.
The guys discuss the impact of COVID-19 on church structures and the essence of living in intimacy with the Father, emphasizing the need for a shift towards a more relational and family-oriented approach in church communities. The conversation also touches on the significance of connection and community, highlighting that love and kindness are essential in fostering genuine relationships.
The guys delve into the themes of godly leadership, family dynamics, and the evolving nature of community engagement within the church. They explore the importance of personal encounters with God, the transformative experiences that shape individuals, and the cultural shifts necessary for a thriving church community.
Finally, the discussion touches on the mission of the Collective Wisdom Academy, which aims to provide frameworks for personal and spiritual growth.
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Collective Wisdom Academy is an innovative learning community founded by a diverse group of professionals, including former pastoral leaders, therapists, chaplains, social entrepreneurs, artists, business consultants, and educators. The Academy brings together these varied perspectives within a spiritually inclusive framework that embraces universalist and trinitarian traditions whilst remaining open to diverse spiritual explorations without requiring adherence to specific doctrinal beliefs
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At its core, the Academy operates through adult learning principles, positioning itself as a collaborative learning environment rather than a traditional educational or religious institution. In other words, our gatherings are more ‘Guide on the Side’, and less ‘Sage on the Stage.’
Learning is facilitated by experienced guides who bring at least five years of professional expertise in their fields, creating spaces where knowledge is co-created through shared experience and reflection. The Academy’s distinctive approach integrates therapeutic practices, business wisdom, artistic expression, and spiritual insight, all delivered through a flexible learning model that honors participants’ life experiences and supports their personal and professional growth. Through this approach, participants engage in transformative learning experiences that bridge practical application with spiritual exploration in a contemporary context.
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In this engaging conversation, John Winston Crowder III, Bill Vanderbush I, and Jason Clark explore themes of universal reconciliation, the nature of God's love, and the purpose of preaching the gospel. They share personal stories and theological insights and discuss the importance of understanding salvation as a relationship with Jesus rather than a mere escape from hell.
In this conversation, John, Bill, and Jason explore profound themes surrounding the incarnation of Christ, the process of deconstruction within the church, and the emergence of a new reformation. They discuss the cosmic nature of the incarnation, the awakening to our true identity in Christ, and the transformative power of grace.
The dialogue also touches on the humorous side of life, illustrated through taco stories, of course, emphasizing the joy and lightness that can accompany deep theological discussions.
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In this engaging conversation, Damon Thompson and Jason explore themes of spiritual awakening, identity in Christ, and the transformative power of love. They share personal stories of metanoia, radical encounters with God, and the journey from a performance-based faith to a relationship rooted in beloved identity.The discussion highlights the importance of challenging doctrinal certainties and embracing the nature of the Father as loving and nurturing, ultimately leading to a deeper understanding of one's identity as the beloved of God.Damon and Jason discuss divine love, trust, and the importance of family dynamics in faith. They dive into how understanding God's love can transform relationships and communities, emphasizing the need for rest and trust in the midst of life's storms. The dialogue also touches on the significance of generational legacy, the peculiar nature of God's people, the reformative movements within the church that challenge traditional views, the historical influences shaping modern theology, and the transformative power of goodness and love.Ultimately, the guys highlight the importance of revelation and the transformative power of love in shaping a new understanding of faith. They discuss the importance of connecting across generations and building bridges within faith communities, emphasizing the joy of shared experiences and the opportunities for growth and connection in their journeys.For more on Damon ThompsonWebsite: https://damonthompson.com/The Homestead: https://thehomesteadmobile.com/For more content like this, go to:https://afamilystory.org/Please rate, review, share, and SUBSCRIBE!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde AssemblyJoin A Family Story's Mailing Listhttps://landing.mailerlite.com/webforms/landing/e2f4i4Join Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosFollow Rethinking God with Tacos on Instagram at:https://www.instagram.com/rethinkinggodwithtacos/Follow Jason's personal Facebook page at: https://www.facebook.com/afamilystory.org/Follow Jason on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/jasonclarkis/ Follow Jason on X at: https://x.com/jasonclarkis Send a donation!! https://app.moonclerk.com/pay/36393kxxeh8
In this conversation, Wayne Jacobsen shares his transformative journey of understanding God's love, the impact of his book 'He Loves Me', and the challenges he faced in his personal life, including health issues. He also shares a deeply personal story about trauma and breakthrough. The discussion also touches on theological shifts regarding atonement and the nature of true peace in the face of adversity.
In this conversation, the guys explore the complexities of reconciliation, trauma, and the nature of justice in relationships. They discuss the importance of navigating personal trauma, recognizing toxic relationships, and the role of good counsel in healing. The dialogue emphasizes the need for trust in God's justice and the transformative power of living loved, ultimately leading to restorative justice that heals both victims and perpetrators.
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In this engaging podcast episode, Jason Clark and Paul Golf host Tommy Miller as they delve into profound themes of faith and union and explore the significance of adoption in Hebrew culture and the transformative power of understanding one's identity in Christ.
In this conversation, Tommy shares the implications of timelessness in relation to prayer, healing, and salvation. They discuss the significance of John 1 as a response to Genesis 1, the nature of existence and universalism, and the material world's redemption.
The dialogue emphasizes the importance of understanding salvation in the present rather than as a future destination, highlighting the transformative power of love and union with God. The fellas explore profound themes of immortality, salvation, and the nature of union in Christ.
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The conversation revolves around Jason Clark’s book, Prone to Love, the first in a trilogy that Prone to Love that invites the reader to deconstruct fractured beliefs about God and His love.
Jason shares his personal experience of going through a season of feeling distant from God and how it led to a deeper revelation of union. He talks about the importance of embracing tests and challenges as invitations to a greater revelation of God's nature.
Jason also discusses trust and its relationship to love and boundaries. He emphasizes the need to earn and maintain trust while still extending love to others.
In this conversation, Jason and Bryant explore the concept of grace and its connection to bravery. They explore the idea that grace is not a dualistic concept but rather an invitation to live in the reality of union with God. They also touch on signs and wonders in the charismatic world and how they can be integrated into a holistic understanding of the Kingdom of God.
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In this conversation, hosted by Brooke Waters and Jason Clark, Jason Twombly shares his journey as a spiritual development coach, focusing on transforming pain into power and fostering relational connections. He discusses the importance of meditation, the concept of union with God, and the need for vibrant communities of faith.
The dialogue also touches on personal loss and the impact of faith transitions on family dynamics, emphasizing the significance of emotional healing and relational skills in spiritual growth.
They also discussed family dynamics during spiritual transitions, emphasizing the importance of heartfelt communication and emotional check-ins.
Finally, they discussed how to cultivate a culture of emotional intelligence and attunement, highlighting the significance of check-ins and heart-to-heart connections. The dialogue also touches on the need for churches to become more relational and the power of shared experiences, including lighthearted moments like taco stories, to foster deeper connections.
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In this conversation, Baxter and Jason delve into profound questions surrounding life after death, the nature of God's love, and the burdens of conditional salvation. They share personal experiences that highlight the emotional turmoil faced by individuals grappling with the idea of salvation and the fear of judgment.
The discussion emphasizes the unconditional love of God, the transformative power of faith, and the importance of understanding God's wrath as a reflection of His love.
Ultimately, the conversation invites listeners to reconsider their beliefs about salvation, judgment, and the nature of God, fostering a sense of hope and connection.
Baxter and Jason explore themes of love, acceptance, and the nature of God through personal anecdotes and theological reflections. The fellas emphasize the importance of understanding God's love as relational rather than transactional and discuss the implications of universalism redemption in the context of Christian faith.
The dialogue also touches on the human condition, the concept of hell, and the transformative power of Jesus in our lives.
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In this conversation, Steve Chalke shares his journey from a challenging childhood in South London to becoming a prominent church leader and social justice advocate. He discusses the founding of Oasis, a charity aimed at providing support and shelter for vulnerable youth, and reflects on the challenges faced in this mission. Chalke emphasizes the importance of personal experiences in shaping one's understanding of faith and theology, particularly in the context of social justice and community service.
In this conversation, Jason and Steve explore profound themes of faith, love, justice, and the true message of Jesus. They discuss the challenges of understanding God's goodness in the face of grief, the social activism of Jesus, and the misconceptions surrounding penal substitutionary atonement. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of love and relationship in healing and transformation, as well as the need for a restorative approach to justice. They also delve into the significance of original goodness, the impact of trauma on behavior, and the transformative journey of understanding God's heart for humanity.
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In this conversation with Dale Howie and Jason Clark, Derryck McLuhan shares his transformative journey from a life steeped in 'churchianity' to a personal and dynamic relationship with God. He discusses the challenges of faith, the importance of personal encounters with the divine, and the quest for understanding one's own beliefs.
The dialogue explores themes of union with the Trinity, the nature of theology, and the significance of personal experiences in shaping faith. Derryck emphasizes the need for authenticity in one's spiritual journey and the beauty of discovering God beyond traditional constructs.
The guys explore the journey of faith, emphasizing the importance of curiosity, community, and living from a place of grace. They discuss the challenges of navigating spiritual life without rigid routines, the significance of understanding one's agenda with God, and the transformative power of love and connection.
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In this delightful conversation, Jason, Brooke, and Pete Ennsexplore the complexities of faith, scripture, and personal experiences. They discuss the historical context of biblical inerrancy, the importance of experiential faith, and the interconnectedness of all things.
The dialogue emphasizes the significance of relationship in understanding God, the role of community, and the impact of suffering and love on one's faith journey. The light-hearted discussion about tacos became a fun metaphor for the diversity of thought in theology, highlighting the need foropenness and exploration in both food and faith.
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In this conversation, Gil Hodges shares his transformative journey from a troubled past involving counterfeiting to a life of faith and spiritual growth. He discusses the importance of understanding God's true nature. He and Jason talk about Gil’s book, Choice: The Most Powerful Thing in the Universe... Next to God.
They talk about the role of choice in spirituality, and the significance of love and trust in building intimacy with God.
The conversation also touches on the challenges of community living, the potential future of humanity in relation to AI, and the joy of sharing tacos as a metaphor for connection and community.
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The Kingdom and the Long Game of Love are themes woven throughout this engaging conversation. Dubb and Jason explore the transformative journey of faith, emphasizing the goodness of God and the importance of understanding His nature.
They discuss the shift from desperation to intimacy in their relationship with God, the impact of fatherhood on their theology, and the role of creativity and storytelling in expressing faith.
The conversation also touches on the significance of community support in navigating faith challenges and the long-term vision of love and transformation in culture.
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In this fun and engaging conversation, Jason and his son Ethan explore the complexities of faith, family, and the next generation's relationship with the church. They discuss personal encounters with God, the importance of authenticity, and the challenges faced by youth today.
The conversation also touches on parenting philosophies, church trauma, and the transformative power of love and identity in Christ.
Through their candid exchange, they highlight the significance of fostering genuine connections and understanding in a rapidly changing world.
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“We’ve preached man in Adam; we need to preach man in Christ.”
In this conversation, Francois and Lydia du Toit discuss with Jason the power of the gospel and the revelation of our identity in Christ. Francois speaks to our oneness with God and explores the idea that faith is not something we do, but something that happens to us when we grasp the truth that we are in Christ and experience the fellowship that comes from this realization. They also highlight the joy and confidence that comes from living in this reality and the impact it can have on our daily lives.
Francois shares the beauty of living in the present moment and highlights the significance of living from innocence and the freedom it brings. He and Lydia share about encountering the love of God in all our relationships. The conversation concludes with a prayer for blessings and fruitfulness in sharing the message of who we are in Christ.
“We’ve preached man in Adam; we need to preach man in Christ – you cannot preach man in Christ before you see him there. To see him there, you have to have your understanding unveiled. Only faith can do that; only faith can see what the flesh cannot see. Because faith is to your spirit what your senses are to your body.”
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Chris Gore, Carlos Padilla, and Jason discuss healing, God's nature, and the importance of understanding the Father's heart. They emphasize being anchored in God's goodness when understanding the miraculous. They also address the tension of disappointment and the importance of not defining God's nature based on what we haven't received.
The conversation highlights the journey of discovering the love of the Father and the significance of repentance in changing our mindset. In this conversation, the guys discuss union with God and its implications for healing and miracles. They emphasize that God is not just the God of the mountaintop but also the God of the valley and that regardless of circumstances, He is always with us.
They explore the idea of eternal life and how it is not something we will attain in the future, but something we can experience in the present moment. They also discuss stewarding healing or the finished work of the cross.
In this final part of the conversation, Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe discusses the Enneagram and its application in understanding ourselves and others. He explains how each Enneagram number has a unique perspective and energy, and how our lowest number represents our inner critic. Dr. Lubbe also shares his personal experience with the Enneagram and how it has helped him understand his strengths and weaknesses. The conversation concludes with a discussion about empathy, compassion, and the importance of presence in supporting others.
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In this conversation, Fr Kenneth Tanner, Chris Green, and Jason discuss the importance of reading scripture in community and approaching it with a Christocentric lens. They emphasize the need to move away from transactional and isolated approaches to scripture and instead engage in relational and communal exploration of who God is. The conversation touches on the harm caused by misinterpretations of scripture and the importance of humility and healing in our reading and understanding of the Bible.
The conversation explores the themes of power, prophecy, love, and complexity. It delves into the stories of Amos, Paul, and John the Baptist, highlighting the silencing and persecution of prophets. The guys discuss the distinction between the shallow heart which can be deceived, and the deep heart, which is oriented towards the truth, emphasizing the need to see beyond appearances and trust in the unseen.
They also address the challenges of navigating the current cultural and political climate, urging humility, openness, and a focus on personal relationships. The conversation concludes with a reminder to prioritize scripture, prayer, and serving others.
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Rudi Louw shares his journey of transition and discovery, from moving to different places to finding a settled home. He discusses his books, including 'Alpha and Omega' and 'The Gospel in 3D.' Rudi also talks about his early encounters with God and the revelation of God's love and our identity in Christ. He highlights the importance of seeing ourselves as spirit beings and understanding our origin in Christ.
Rudi reflects on the challenges and opposition he faced in sharing this message but remains committed to the truth of God's love and union with us. The conversation centers around the theme of God's love and its transformative power. The guys discuss the need to move away from arguments and theological debates and focus on imparting God's love to others.
The conversation also touches on the topics of identity, adoption, and the revelation of God's kindness. The speakers highlight the role of encounter and revelation in experiencing the fullness of God's love. They encourage listeners to embrace their true identity in Christ and live in the reality of God's love. In this conversation, Rudi and Jason discuss the importance of being fully persuaded in our beliefs and how it affects our understanding of scripture.
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Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe, a neuroplasticity expert, discusses his journey and the intersection of faith and science. He shares his experience growing up in South Africa and immigrating to the United States, as well as his personal health struggles.
Dr. Lubbe explains the Enneagram as a tool for understanding motivations and behaviors, emphasizing the importance of exploring all aspects of our personality. He also introduces the concept of neuroplasticity, which is the brain's ability to change and adapt. Brooke Waters co-hosts along with Jason as they challenge the idea that we cannot change and highlight the potential for growth and transformation. Dr. Lubbe emphasizes the importance of framing conversations through the lens of a safe and healthy parent or adult. He also explores the idea that change is not about being less broken, but about becoming more whole.
Dr. Lubbe explains that neuroplasticity is the brain's capacity to change and adapt, just like muscles can change with exercise. He highlights the interconnectedness of thoughts, emotions, and physical health, and the need for a healthy avenue for personal growth. The conversation also touches on the importance of trust and safety in building connections and making positive changes. In this part of the conversation, Dr. Jerome discusses the importance of trust and safety in making choices and building connections. He emphasizes the need for movement and self-control in building trust and highlights the power of choosing to move away from unsafe relationships.
Dr. Lubbe also shares his journey of finding a safe connection with God and its impact on his spiritual health. He explains the Enneagram model and how it can help individuals understand their healthy and immature selves. He encourages listeners to help others feel safe and to seek out connections that increase their sense of safety.
In this final part of the conversation, Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe discusses the Enneagram and its application in understanding ourselves and others. He explains how each Enneagram number has a unique perspective and energy, and how our lowest number represents our inner critic. Dr. Lubbe also shares his personal experience with the Enneagram and how it has helped him understand his own strengths and weaknesses. The conversation concludes with a discussion about empathy, compassion, and the importance of presence in supporting others.
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In this conversation, Jason and Jeff Turner discuss their experiences with questioning and exploring their faith. They talk about the process of deconstructing their beliefs and the fear and uncertainty that comes with it. In the first half of the conversation, the guys touch on themes from Jeff’s book, Saints in the Arms of a Happy God. They discuss topics such as grace, legalism, pain, leaving and finding Jesus, and the tight-knit community of like-minded individuals.
In the second half of the conversation, they discuss Jeff's book, The Atheistic Theist: Why There is No God and You Should Follow Him. Jeff shares how atheism was part of Jeff’s journey to a deeper understanding of faith.
The conversation highlights the idea that the journey of faith is not linear, but rather a constant process of discovery, growth, and reawakening. They explore the themes of loss, the discovery of a deeper reality, and the role of love in their spiritual journeys. They emphasize the importance of trust and relational theology in navigating the unnerving process of deconstruction.
They also touch on the measureless and timeless reality of love and the significance of language in sharing the journey with others.
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Podcast: www.religionless.podbean.com
Website: www.patreon.com/religionless
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In this conversation, hosted by Bob Switzer and Jason, David Hewitt discusses the message of his new book, Ultimate Rest. They guys dive into living from a place of union with God. David emphasizes that the gospel is an announcement of what God has already done, and our role is to awaken to the rest that is already available to us in Christ. David highlights the importance of living in the overflow of God's love and grace, rather than striving to earn His favor. He encourages a relational approach to sharing the gospel, where we authentically live out our identity in Christ and allow God to work through us.
The conversation explores the themes of rest, trust, and participating in God's life. David and the guys explore the idea that rest is not laziness, but rather a deep trust in God's work and a recognition of our identity in Christ. They also touch on the need for a reformation in the church and the importance of embracing the essential values of the gospel. David shares practical advice for living in rest and invites listeners to reimagine what it means to be the body of Christ.
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Wellspring: www.wellsprings.uk.net
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Website: www.thebobswitzer.com
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In this conversation, Jason and his uncle, Jack Haberer, discuss Jack's journey in ministry and his new book, Swimming with Sharks: Leading The Full Spectrum Church In A Red And Blue World.
The book addresses the polarization within American Christianity and offers insights on fostering unity across denominations and ideologies.
They explore the importance of speaking the truth in love and embracing a full spectrum approach to church, where all voices are heard and valued.
They also discuss the need to go beyond dualistic thinking and embrace the revelation of God's love and grace. The conversation highlights the significance of understanding the true nature of Jesus and applying his teachings in a politically divided world.
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Website www.jackhaberer.com
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In this conversation, Jason and Catherine Toon discuss the themes of love, identity, and purpose as they revisit Catherine’s revised and expanded edition of her book, Marked By Love.
They discuss the importance of journaling and encountering God experientially. The conversation addresses the lies and insecurities we often believe about ourselves and the truth of our identity in Christ. The conversation emphasizes the transformative power of God's love as they explore the idea that we are created in God's image and likeness, prone to love, and designed to live in the fullness of His pleasure.
They also touch on the importance of trust and faith in navigating life's challenges and finding rest in God's presence. The conversation is filled with insights and personal stories that highlight the transformative power of understanding our identity in Christ.
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www.catherinetoon.com
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In this conversation, Jason and Derek discuss their reunion and the reasons behind Derek’s hiatus. They talk about their passion for the topics they discuss on their podcast, their personal journeys of growth and transformation, and the importance of love and union with God. They also touch on the impact of their podcast on the community and the need for vulnerability and authenticity in relationships. The conversation explores themes of love, recovery, church, and the transformative power of faith. In this part of the conversation, Jason and Derek discuss the concept of being born again and experiencing death as a transformative process. They also talk about the significance of repentance and the role of trust in the journey of faith. They highlight the American contribution to spirituality through the 12-step program of Alcoholics Anonymous and the need to break free from dualistic thinking. The conversation concludes with a discussion on hope, union with God, and the power of love.Please rate, review, share, and subscribe!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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Jason and Brooke connect with Ian Simkins and talk about community, the role of the table in ministry, and our identity being discovered in knowing ourselves as "the one Jesus loves."
They dive into the challenges of tribalism and division and the need for curiosity and humility in engaging with others. Themes of self-worth, identity, and the concept of being loved are discussed as they explore the impact of workaholism, the need for validation, and the struggle to find value beyond accomplishments.
The conversation addresses the practical implications of being loved, the correlation between self-love and loving others, the importance of operating from a place of rest, the concept of mystery in faith, the beauty of curiosity, and the significance of valuing interruptions.
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www.instagram.com/iansimkins
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This conversation between Jason and Don Keathley dives into Don’s history and the evolution that led to the Grace Awakening Network.
The guys discuss the transformative power of grace, the Fatherhood of God, unconditional love, inclusion, and the practicality of the manifestation of the sons of God. The conversation delves into the importance of trust, the revelation of God's love, and the significance of becoming the light of the world. They also explore the concept of faith and the measureless revelation of God's love.
The conversation delves into the concept of sonship and the revelation of the Father's love, emphasizing the integration of Jesus' identity with our own. It explores the idea of theosis and the developmental process of becoming the fullest measure of the stature of Christ.
The discussion also touches on the nature of rest, the seamless flow between two realms, and the transformation of hearts and minds through union with the Father.
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YouTube: www.youtube.com/channel/
Website: www.donkeathley.com
Global Grace Seminary: www.globalgraceseminary.net/don-keathley/
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This conversation with Bob Hamp and co-host, Brooke Waters, explores the themes of freedom, identity, and transformation, emphasizing the shift from religious performance to relational experience. It delves into the concept of thinking differently, highlighting the process of becoming who we are created to be. The conversation delves into the topics of identity, behavior, freedom, and the nature of God's love. It explores the idea that behavior follows identity. The concept of the kingdom of God and the discovery of oneness is also discussed, emphasizing the role of consent and freedom in the context of love.
The conversation touches on the restoration of the self and the invitation to return to a place of oneness with God. The conversation delves into the practical application of relational theology, the impact of false narratives, and the role of theology in real-life scenarios. It also explores the nature of God as revealed in Jesus and the misassignment of responsibility in abuse situations within the church.
This episode delves into the impact of family dynamics on personal identity, the absence of responsible parenting, and the cultural shift towards self-focus. It also explores the concept of revival and the future of the church, emphasizing a flatter, more community-oriented structure.
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Channock Banet and Corey Rice are the senior and teaching pastors at Hill City Church just outside Louisville, KT, and the hosts of 2 Pastors And A Mic Podcast. Matthew Hester is the senior pastor of Dominion Church in the Greenville, SC, area, and the host of The Kingdom Is For Everyone Podcast.
Jason joins the guys in the Hill City Church studio to talk about the perfection of God’s love, the awakening within the church to union, relational theology that practically transforms our communities, how leaving the idolatry of separation impacts our thoughts on justice, heaven, and hell, friendship with God, the Kingdom alive and active in us, and seeing Christ in everyone.
For more information on Channock & Corey and 2 Pastors And A Mic www.youtube.com/@hillcityindiana/featured
For more information on Matthew Hester and The Kingdom Is For Everyone www.hesterministries.org
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This conversation, co-hosted by Paul Golf, explores Douglas Campbell and Jon DePue’s book, Beyond Justification: Liberating Paul’s Gospel. The guys discuss the practical implications of their theological perspective and its impact on the church and society. The relational nature of God's revelation and the transformative power of understanding God's kindness and reconciliation are central themes.This conversation delves into the concept of Christian Universalism, the impact of theological beliefs on individuals, and the importance of rethinking traditional perspectives. The conversation also touches on the significance of understanding God's love and the practical implications of our beliefs in everyday life.For more on Douglass CampbellWebsite: www.douglascampbell.meFor more on Jon DepueYouTube: www.youtube.com/c/ApocalypseHereFor more on Paul GolfWebsite: www.championsofhope.co.uk
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In this conversation, Brent Lokker and Jason share personal experiences and insights into the understanding of union with Christ, emphasizing the importance of seeing God's love and grace in every aspect of life. They discuss therevelation of God's goodness and the transformation it brings.
Shame, freedom, awakening to the perfection ofGod's love, the power of revelation, belonging, authenticity, and the power of seeing others as filled with God's glory; in this conversation, Brent and Jason share stories that illustrate the heart of the Father and His desire to draw us into a relationship with Him.
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YouTube: www.youtube.com/@vibrantlife4you
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In this conversation, Jason and Brooke discuss Jason's book 'Surrendered and Untamed' and the journey of writing it. They explore the themes of radical faith, surrender, and living untamed. Jason shares his personal experiences and encounters with God that shaped the book.
This podcast discusses the process of writing, radical obedience, discovering and embracing ‘calling,’ a relational approach to surrender, themes of hope, identity, and union, and rethinking favor. Brooke and Jason explore the concept of separation and how it affects our understanding of God and our experiences in the church. Jason also touches on the themes of dismissal, rejection, and the spirit of prostitution within the church.
The conversation concludes with a discussion about tacos and an announcement of a book study on 'Untamed.'
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Dr. Tony Robinson, Brooke Waters, and Jason discuss being a dream disruptor—challenging false narratives and helping people discover their true selves.
Dr. Tony emphasizes the importance of knowing who Father God is and how He sees us. She also talks about discovering our identity in Christ, the power of asking questions in a relational context, and seeking God's perspective in understanding our purpose.
In this conversation, Dr. Tony, Brooke, and Jason discuss the importance of dreaming and living in alignment with one's true identity. They explore the idea that dreams are not just individual desires but a partnership with God to bring about His purposes. They also highlight the significance of dreaming generationally, understanding that dreams have the power to impact future generations.
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Website: www.masterdreamacademy.com
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Jared Neusch, Conner Shram, and Jason discuss the importance of bringing the Jesus way to the center of children's understanding and experience of God. The conversation focuses on Jared and Connor's new children’s book, Jesus vs. The Bad Guys, which aims to introduce children to the true nature of God and the concept of forgiveness. This wonderfully illustrated book invites kids to explore the goodness of God through imagination.
They discuss the shift from a contractual to a covenantal understanding of faith and the significance of Jesus' faithfulness in the process of salvation. The conversation explores the idea of teaching children about the importance of experiencing and understanding the love and acceptance that Jesus offers. It delves into the concept of nonviolent peacemaking and forgiveness, challenging the traditional view of a retributive God.
The conversation also touches on the book of Revelation and the idea that Jesus' way of forgiveness and nonviolence is what ultimately redeems the world. The guys share their personal experiences with their children and how they navigate the complexities of faith and peacemaking.
For more on Jared Neusch & Connor Shram
Jesus vs The Bad Guys / Available on Amazon
Jared Neusch www.instagram.com/jaredneusch
Connor Shram www.instagram.com/connorshram
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In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book 'Unveiled Horizon' and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures.
Bill talks about rediscovering neglected verses and the process of deconstructing his faith to focus on the goodness of God. He emphasizes the importance of resting in the finished work of the cross and the journey of radical commitment. The guys also explore the story of Peter in the Garden of Gethsemane and the concept of the long game of love. They dive into reconciliation and living in alignment with God's intention. Bill emphasizes the importance of understanding and experiencing the fruit of the covenant that is available to us through Jesus.
The conversation explores justice and dismantling paradigms, removing accusation, and living in our true identity. It concludes with a discussion on universalism and the long game of love.
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Website: www.billvanderbush.com
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In this episode, Randy and Leslie interview Jason Clark, a relational theologian and author. They discuss the challenges families face today and the importance of rediscovering cruciform love. Jason emphasizes the need for heart-to-heart connection in marriages and parenting, as well as the significance of mutual indwelling and oneness in family relationships. They also highlight the transformative power of God's love and the importance of understanding one's identity and purpose in God's design for family.
Randy and Leslie share their experiences and the work they do to help families thrive. This conversation explores the themes of redemption, restoration, and the kindness of God in the context of family. They share personal stories of overcoming challenges and finding healing and emphasize the need for a comprehensive strategy for the family and the importance of equipping families with practical tools. The power of listening prayer and living loved are discussed as transformative practices. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about the significance of food, specifically tacos, in family life.
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Website: www.culturalarchitects.org
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Recognizing our shared humanity, approaching Christian nationalists in love, ethnic erasure, navigating fear, violence, and the political and religious divide, personal transformation and hospitality, finding heaven's solution to the immigration problem, shifting towards unity and compassion, creating language to communicate better alternatives, navigating potentially caustic interactions with leaders in the evangelical world, the influence of money and power in American Christian nationalism, the church growth model of American Christian nationalism, the exhaustion of maintaining a divisive posture, and seeing the manifold wisdom of God in all people, in this conversation Caleb Campbell shares with Dubb Alexander and Jason about his forthcoming book, Disarming Leviathan.
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Substack: www.rcnc.substack.com
Website: www.disarmingleviathan.com
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“It can be true of us but not true to us.” Epignosis- a deeper, more personal, and experiential knowledge, the grace of apostolic ministry, the importance of connection and community, objective and subjective truth, encountering God's love and affection, the role of works in grace, moving from church mentality to Kingdom thinking, experiencing the truth goodness of God, living in freedom, the invitation to union and clearing the lens, the nature of hell and darkness, the relational dynamic with God, being light and working out salvation, living in the ease of His life, and the partnership between faith and action, in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart and Jason dive into union and the journey experiencing our theology.
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Facebook: Facebook
Website: www.connectinternationalministries.com
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In this conversation, Jason and Bryant Spratlin discuss the goodness of God and the journey of rethinking God's wrath as love, the impact of misinterpretation and bad theology, hearing God's voice, parenting and apologizing, choosing to love and staying connected, identity, loving the religious, imaginary prayer, the fear of being wrong, rethinking hell, apokatastasis-the restoration of all things, the pleasure of our Father, awakening to the present love reality, and Jesus as the perfect minister. The guys discuss the story of the woman caught in adultery to reveal the paradigm of union as the third option Jesus offers all of us. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of understanding God's goodness and the transformative power of grace.
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The scapegoat mechanism, the subversion of myth, the anthropological story of humanity, the message of the blood of Jesus, understanding mimesis and desire, the transformative power of relationships, the relational nature of reality, the interconnectedness of all things, peace and beauty and seeing the sacred in every moment; in this conversation, Carlos, Jason, and Andre explore the concept of mimetic theory.
For more on Andre Rabe:
Website: www.alwaysloved.net
X / Twitter: @AndreRabe1
Facebook: www.facebook.com/wordmadeflesh
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In this conversation, Bob Switzer shares his journey. Women in ministry, shifting from exegetical to narrative preaching, challenging traditional church structures, and pursuing authenticity, in this conversation Bob discusses the importance of Jesus as perfect theology and the need to reexamine problematic scriptures.
Bob also reflects on the loneliness experienced as a pastor and the lack of long-term friendships. He highlights the significance of exploring new theological perspectives and embracing the goodness of God. In this conversation, Bob Switzer and Jason discuss the misconceptions of podcasting and the unique format of Bob's podcast, The Epic Narrative.
They delve into the exploration of the life of David and the complexity of his story. They also touch on the importance of rethinking God and approaching scripture with a Christocentric hermeneutic. The conversation highlights the dualism in the story of Balaam and the liberty found in understanding the goodness of God. They conclude by emphasizing the significance of living in the eternal now and the freedom that comes from discovering the true character of God.
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Website: www.thebobswitzer.com
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Early encounters with Holy Spirit—the Gospel, growing in the language of love, shifting paradigms from separation to union, the conviction of God’s goodness, The Prodigal Son and the Good Father, Jesus the storyteller, and the significance of presenting the gospel through story, prison ministry, and transformative love, the Eucharist, the eternal now, gratitude and enjoyment; in this conversation Malcolm and Cheryl Smith share their background and journey in ministry, highlighting key moments of encounter and revelation.
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Website: www.unconditionallovefellowship.com
Website: www.malcolmsmith.org
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Encountering Jesus in the Gospels, studying Scripture in community, embracing a relational theology centered on the love and grace of God, Gnosticism, confession, repentance and restorative justice, Jesus, the temple and a whip, the prophetic act of Jesus, the wisdom of Love, the concept of inclusion, the importance of embracing diversity, and the meal where everybody’s “in;” in this conversation, Cherith shares personal transformative stories of faith and trust and hope, and invites us to find our home in Jesus.
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Website: www.opentableconference.com/matthew-class
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In this conversation, Jason, Matthew, and Chris discuss the concept of union with Christ and its implications. They explore the idea that Jesus identifies completely with humanity and suffers with us. They also discuss the difference between a simplistic understanding of union and a profound understanding that recognizes the fullness of our identity in Christ.
How the master-slave paradigm is misused to justify power and control, speaking truth with love and authority, Christian nationalism and how it undermines the integrity of the gospel, the concept of the fear of the Lord and how it leads to perfect love, breaking conspiracy thinking and the hope we can know because God is in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, in this podcast, the guys start and end with the hope of the Gospel—God is in Christ reconciling the world to Himself
"The Israelite heals, that's all you need to know." Jefferey
From, Cormac McCarthy's, The Passenger.
CHAPTERS
03:16 The Concept of Union
11:46 The Radical Union with Christ
19:21 Living from Union
21:15 The Narrative of Master and Slave
32:46 Speaking Truth with Love and Authority
40:29 Using Jesus' Teachings for Political Gain
44:28 Christian Nationalism and the Integrity of the Gospel
48:46 The Fear of the Lord and Perfect Love
52:58 Breaking the Cycle of Fear and Conspiracy Thinking
56:18 The Future of Christianity in America
58:28 The Deconstruction Movement and the Search for Jesus
01:04:36 The Israelite Heals: Finding Hope in Jesus
For more on Chris EW Green
Website: www.substack.com/@cewgreen
For more on the guest host, Matthew Hester
Website: www.hesterministries.org
For Links to the articles and videos mentioned in this podcast:
God Is Not A Master — YouTube Teaching
God Is Not A Master — Substack Link
The Israelite Heals — Substack Link
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Neuroscience and human relationships in the context of the biblical narrative, living in the path of oncoming beauty, moving from imagination to incarnation, being known, a peace beyond understanding, secure attachment—being seen, soothed, safe and secure—left brain right brain imagery, and The Soul of Desire, I this conversation Curt invites us to see beauty as we create beauty, as we become beauty because we are paying attention to Father who never leaves.
QUOTES
“Beauty is always coming toward us.” “We are co-laboring with God to help people tell their story more truly.”
“God's primary mission has not changed…Genesis three doesn’t mean we forget about Genesis one and two… It’s still the case that we are being formed into the image of Jesus in order for us to become like Him so we can rule to create and curate beauty and goodness in the world.”
“Because I am primed to pay attention to danger, I don’t practice looking for beauty…”
“Jesus’ capacity to see beauty just around the corner… with the man with the withered hand, with the woman caught in adultery… has everything to do with the degree to which He experiences Himself as a non-anxious presence in the world because He is so deeply connected with a Father who loves Him.”
“Unless I feel the love of God in my chest, it isn’t yet fully real to me...”
“We are the embodiment spread over the world…we are the gospel…we are so loved by God that He wants us to be His representative, we are His incarnate presence…”
Jesus to us – “I am no further away from you now than before you made the mistake.”
“You will see beauty as you create beauty as you become beauty because you are paying attention to me, who is never leaving.”
“God is not so self-conscious, so anxious that He won’t share Himself with us. He’s not worried that somehow, we’re going to do something, and He’s not gonna get credit.”
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Website: www.curtthompsonmd.com
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“How do we move toward each other in love, the truth of our authentic power? Perhaps, we welcome change instead of resisting it. To expand my worldview beyond the paradigm of Southern, Christian, rural, or working poor to a larger cosmic frame that is inclusive, universal, affirming, and accepting, I needed to see the parts and the whole in all their majestic splendor and their messy complexity.”
And: The Restorative Power Of Love In An Either Or World, in this podcast, Felicia shares the message of her book. Touching on issues of race, body, motherhood, church, and wonder, Felicia offers her soul, and it is a wise, deep, creative, and generous soul. The restorative power and uniting thread of love, union, empathy, dualism, good and evil, and The Tree of Life, this conversation is full of hope, grace, wisdom, and revelation.
QUOTES:
“I exist to exist. I exist to love. I exist to receive Love as a continuous experience in my heart, to live in it and give it away to others.”
“Sometimes love pursues and sometimes love pulls back…”
“Empathy fosters deep knowing…it is the gateway to deep knowing.”
“One this empathy allows is a deeper knowing beyond context.”
“All things considered, what is the most loving thing I can do right now.”
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Website: www.beinghumanmag.com
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This podcast features Chapter Three of Jason Clark's recent book, Leaving and Finding Jesus. "We have been invited to trade a finite perspective with an infinite eternal life revelation—Christ in us, the hope of glory—and nothing separates us from His love!In John 17, Jesus prayed that we would know this union, this oneness, just as He and the Father were one. Further, He revealed there is no darkness light won’t penetrate, no brokenness that won’t be made whole, no road He won’t join us on, no soil the Seed won’t transform, no consequence of sin that His justice won’t restore—past, present, or future..."To purchase the book you can go to https://a.co/d/cmOtbzh For more on Jason ClarkWebsite: www.afamilystory.orgPlease rate, review, share, and subscribe!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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Recorded in December of last year, Cory dives into our identity as saints and invites us to discover what God says and believes about us. The guys talk about restoration, transformation, grace, our Father's love, and living confidently in a relational understanding of God's love. Cory shares about his new book, What If I Told You. This book takes the reader on a 21-day journey to rediscover ourselves; grace, wholeness, being loved and union are the invitations of this book. Pastoring and counseling and practicing community, in this conversation they guys enjoy discussing how God is better than the last time they checked.
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Website: www.saintsnotsinners.com
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“The Kingdom is the heart and the authority of God, from heaven, on earth, through us.”Rethinking Kingdom in the context of union, understanding the nature of the King, the penal substitutionary atonement heresy, a restorative understanding of the prophetic, how to receive or judge a prophetic word, holding on to what is good, dominion as opposed to domination, in this conversation Dubb Alexander gives insight into Jesus words, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand…God’s kingdom is within.
Quotes
“God has heavenly solutions for every earthly problem.”
“If Jesus said that the Father is just like Him, how does that affect your theology?”
“You can either agree with the entirety of scripture or you can agree with Jesus, but you cannot agree with them both because they do not agree with each other.”
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“Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: ‘What, you too? I thought I was the only one.” C.S Lewis
From Romans Road to The Emmaus Road, Derek and Jason celebrate and revisit 2023 while dreaming dream into 2024. Two friends tell stories, reminisce, and wonder at the goodness of God. From reformation, restoration, reconciliation, righteousness, peace, and joy to community, kindness, and transformation, the guys share some of the ways they have been rethinking, particularly around a deeper understanding of friendship—friendship with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and friendship with each other. Eventually, as always, the guys talked about Love, the heights, depths, lengths, and widths.
QUOTES
“It could be fun is how I’m entering this year.” Jason Clark
“What would Love do?” Derek Turner
“Love is the wisest friend; it is the Holy Spirit's voice.” Jason Clark
“When you begin to rethink the goodness of God (as Jesus revealed it), you can relax and love people well.” Derek Turner
“More el pastor in 2024.” Derek Turner
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For many, the message of Jesus Christ has not been associated with the overwhelming joy of living. The world is often filled with so much discouragement, depression, and striving just to be happy. In this conversation, Matt talks about his book "High on God," which presents an authentic solution in a radical approach to Jesus! The guys discuss an ecstatic joy discovered at His Cross that brings a sense of satisfaction and completeness, so we are actually able to live & love confidently. Church community, righteousness, peace, and joy, our mystical union, the presence of God, encounter, bliss, measureless favor, and a happy God; in this podcast, the fellas get down to the serious business of joy.QUOTES“In the Western Church, in some ways, we are afraid of spirituality.”“Cessationism isn’t based on an experience it’s based on something you haven’t experienced yet.” “God is happy. He is not against pleasure; He is the author of pleasure.”“Our view of Jesus is still too small.”For more on Matt SpinksWebsite: www.thefirehouseprojects.comPlease rate, review, share, and subscribe!Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
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The Trinitarian, mystical, joy-filled, supernatural good news, the mass exodus from the Christian institutional experiment we call 'church,' what 'mission' looks like for us in the 21st century with a non-toxic gospel, and the supernatural reality of living in union with the Father, Son, and Spirit, in this conversation, Paul and the guys dive into inclusion, evangelism, the creative spirit, the prophetic, the flow of compassion, and the wonder of hope.
QUOTES
“Religious people talk about hell; spiritual people have been there.” Wm Paul Young
“The more we see him, the more we become like Him.”
“At its heart, our faith has a mystical and mysterious axis that can only be experienced and encountered, it can't be intellectualized. Even though there's value in intellectual pursuits, it's always secondary.”
“What happens when we take inclusion seriously?”
“I’m an evangelist at heart. I used to think I was bringing Jesus to people. Now I understand, actually, Jesus is already there…”
“If it’s not inexpressible glorious joy, you have a gospel problem.”
“The power of heaven is not based on control. The government of heaven is not based on law. And the warfare of heaven is not based on violence.”
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“For it logically follows that if God is all-good, all-knowing, and all-powerful, then God must also be all-saving.”
Often dismissed as a modern feel-good theology, Christian universalism is an ancient, orthodox, and biblical theology that was expounded by early Christians and early church fathers. Artman brings much-deserved attention to this wonderful spirituality.
In this conversation, David Artman shares that grace saves alone and goes to all. This inclusive approach to Christianity is variously called universal reconciliation, universal salvation, or perhaps most accurately, Christian universalism. David shares that the inclusive/Christian universalist approach is necessary because it offers the only Christian theology that successfully defends the goodness of God.
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Redefining deliverance, principalities and powers, strongholds and spiritual warfare, revival, intercession, prayer, worship, the prophetic, the fall, and sin, all in the context of union; in this conversation, Ryan and the guys talk about the unchangeable goodness and love of the Father, grace, union, purpose, and connection.
The guys discuss how, as we grow sure in love, and as we journey further into grace, we continue to find more expansive language for union.
Quotes
God speaking to Ryan as the Author and finisher of his faith, inviting him to rethink— “I am supposed to be the author of your faith, but there have been pages written in your heart that I didn’t author; things that you believe that I don’t believe…”
“Deliverance isn’t a battle with demons it’s a shifting of agreement.”“Spiritual warfare is all about truth and lies.”
“We confuse dominion with domination…dominion is governing solutions…”
“If you're not preaching hard about the finished work and the righteousness of God, then you've watered down the gospel.”
“God is good; Jesus is the model.”
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Union, the gospel according to John, the nature of delusion, everlasting mercy, early church fathers and mothers, the always good nature of God, a prophet in his hometown desperation, the wrath of God, hell, freedom, salvation, holiness, the Fatherhood of God before creation, the incarnation, a prophet in his home town, the cloud of witnesses, the all-inclusive vicarious humanity of Jesus, the good Shepherd, in this conversation Baxter reveals the gospel as very good news—Christ in you! Plus, crawfish tacos!
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Do you resonate with aspects of Christianity but struggle with the coherence of its claims? After having a mystical experience that upended her traditional evangelical beliefs, Heather Hamilton reluctantly found herself in this place. Her seeking led to the most unexpected insights. In this conversation, Heather shares that story and introduces her book, Returning To Eden.
Love, trust, scripture, re-discovering Jesus, sacred moments, the hell of separation, and a God who is love and never leaves, in this conversation, Heather and the guys dive into a Faith that is no longer a white-knuckled grip on implausible beliefs, but a relaxation into a deep inner knowing.
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“Wherever there is a culture of certainty, there is a culture of hypocrisy.” Jared ScholzFaith has its messy seasons of intense digging. Some will carelessly demolish the precious hope, like a child with a Tonka truck in the sandbox. Others will work like measured archaeologists to uncover the museum-worthy gem they’d hoped for.Following Jesus in real time, living responsive, rediscovering Jesus, an evolving and maturing faith, Love being our Cornerstone, the church, growing in trust, and humble leadership, in this conversation, the guys dive into Jared Scholz’s new book, Sandbox to Museum, a book that seeks to clarify the deconstruction landscape and help readers avoid the pitfalls of modern deconstruction.Please rate, review, share, and subscribe!For more on Jared ScholzWebsite: www.jaredscholz.comFacebook: www.facebook.com/jared.scholz.1
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"Exquisitely etched, in a luring cadence, a daughter lost, a family fractured, fractioned, all in the lower case, not shouting at us, but hard to read. I had to stop and regain my composure. What is this terrible beauty? Not a theology but something softer, more delicate, unprotected, exposed. What is this? A moving poem, certainly, but also a prayer, a wounded word, a broken hallelujah, where a random hug, a hand held through the night, a shoulder touched, are the only amelioration, the only God worthy of our time, the only God there may be, the only way to keep the future open." John CaputoIn this conversation, the guys discuss Jonathan's new book, indigo: the color of grief. This conversation invites the love of God into our loss, disappointment, and fragile trust.
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This podcast features, Steve and Robin Smit. In October of 2022, the Lord asked Robin if she would put her own writing aside and build The Writer's Society. There is a tremendous need for a grace-based, author-empowering, Trinitarian, Christological-focused publishing company! Steve and Robin launched The Writers Society—TWS—and have been writing, editing, and publishing since.In this podcast, they share about the publishing company and a new book, "Free To Give."In a world where the act of giving is often burdened by expectations and legalistic constraints, “Free to Give” emerges as a guiding light of grace and liberation. If you’ve ever been shackled by the weight of ritualistic and obligatory giving or the oppressive thoughts of giving to meet performance standards, this book is your path to freedom.In this podcast they discuss “Free to Give,” and the twelve co-authors who extend a heartfelt invitation to experience the transformational power of giving in its purest and most unrestrained form. Drawing from a wellspring of wisdom and personal experiences, these co-voices offer the opportunity to discover the joy of giving without the constraints of obligation.For more on Steve & Robin Smit:www.thewriterssociety.online
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Troy McLaughlin, host of This Undivided Life Podcast, and the guys talked about wholeness. Derek and Jason shared about their journeys and the inception of Rethinking God with Tacos. The guys talked about Jesus as perfect theology, de-reconstruction, an Emmaus Road Jesus, revelation, the resurrected Christ, the burning heart, waking up to wonder, a father’s love, the incarnation, our humanity, sufficient grace, a God who never leaves, and an undivided life.
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“There is no retribution in the nature of God. Period. He is love plus nothing…”A throughline of trust, the cross and cruciform love, the Church & Eastern Orthodoxy, Deconstruction and liberation from false constructs, leaving and finding Jesus, reorientation, faith, communion, miracles, suffering, loss, and the infinite healing love of God, abandonment and a God who never leaves, a Christocentric hermeneutic, penal substitution, eternal conscious torment and the nature of repentance, in this conversation Brad and Jason dive into Brad's book, Out of the Embers: Faith After the Great Deconstruction.
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Many people consider organized religion to be irrelevant today. ‘From its humble beginnings like a simple fishing boat carried by the wind, it sometimes seems that the church has morphed into a vast container ship, set on fixed courses, running on dirty fuel oil, very slow to turn around and encrusted with barnacles and weeds en route. Why not just abandon ship and simply relate to God ourselves, when and how we want to?’In this conversation, David Hewitt and the guys discuss Church and deconstruction without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.’ David shares his story as a pastor as he rediscovers the ecclesia through a grace-orientated, Trinitarian lens.
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Sozo, wholeness, community, purpose, reimaging the goodness of God in the midst of church rejection and trauma, the language of encounter, leaving an angry God and shame and condemnation, belonging and the joy and hope of our union, healing, in this podcast, Brooke Waters, Liz Koepp, and the guys reimagine wholeness through heart-to-heart connection with a trustworthy God who has always looked like Jesus.
They also discuss the upcoming women's retreat being hosted by Path to Wholeness, Nov 6-9, 2023.
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“The universe has a direction; it is moving toward greater meaning and beauty, it's an unfinished story, and the end has not been determined. You have been invited to author this specific chapter.” Andre Rabe is a storyteller, theologian, philosopher, author, and public speaker, and in this conversation, the guys talked about union, open and relational theology, inclusion, Christ within us, and how “all creation is incarnation.” For more on Andre go to: www.alwaysloved.netTo join the Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacosPlease rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly.
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Derek and Jason highlighted the connections being made on the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group.
The guys also discussed Derek's new book, Make Room, a 21-day journey through the Gospel of John. Derek wrote this devotional to help strengthen our trust in our God's unconditional love, melt fear from our hearts, and help us see ourselves through the eyes of our Father.
The conversation also touched on inerrancy and infallibility, seeing Jesus as the perfect theology, love being our guiding principle, worship songs that emphasize the finished work, and spiritual maturity.
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In this podcast, Derek Vreeland shared about his new book, Centering Jesus. The guys focused on the centrality of Jesus in spiritual formation, ethical lives, and community life. They discussed the importance of love, unity, and tapping into the imaginative side of faith. They also touched on the significance of the Bible and the image of Jesus as the ruling and reigning King. They concluded by emphasizing the importance of love and unity within the church as a witness to the world.
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Shifting from Western theo-logic to Eastern theo-poetics thinking, vulnerability and transformation, Eneagram5, narcissistic pastors and healing, disrupting the institution, rethinking Job and “upgrading” faith, kayfabe, apokatastasis and a better gospel, interpreting The Prophets with restoration not damnation, and spiral dynamics, in this conversation John Chaffee and the guys dove into the restoration of all things.
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Face-to-face encounter, the Emanuel Approach to heart healing, the Celtic way of evangelism, mirror neurons, discipleship, transformation, belonging and becoming, renewing our minds, discovering the connection of all things, establishing identity, meditation and changing neural pathways; in this conversation, Melinda and Cathy talked about how to actually experience deep heart connection with God and each other.
“Forgiveness is an event and a process… Forgiveness came to me…”Christ, within you the hope of glory, the journey of union, discovering our identity, speaking to light within people, no us and them, no hierarchy in love, embracing mystery and asking questions, hope, forgiveness, authentic restoration, and the eternal nature of reconciliation, in this podcast the guys talk about their rethinking journey in the context of pastoring, and Mike shares his powerful story of healing and the journey of forgiveness and a hope that won’t disappoint.
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Theology and methodology, communal learning, asking questions and discussing false narratives, theodicy, rethinking atonement theories, the stages of faith - simplicity, complexity, perplexity, harmony (Brian McLaren), deconstruction, liturgy, the lectionary, spiral dynamics, and first-tier thinking, the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves, and letting God tell our story; in this podcast, Randall and the guys talk about a theology of love as revealed through the incarnation.
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“Nothing is wasted… God meets you where you are and gives you what you need at the moment you need it.” Emotional maturity, connection, inner healing, transparency, vulnerability, transformed lives, and above all, hope; in this podcast, Lakhi and Giovanna Dadlani share their 30-year journey to emotional and spiritual wholeness, true identity, and our Father's love. Their personal well-being journey ultimately culminates in the beautiful Hope4Life community in Miami.
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“Love is not only a powerful emotion, but a person.” Experiential knowing, discovering our identity, helping people encounter love, connection, union, intimacy with God, the value of our humanity, the mystery of maleness and femaleness represented in the Godhead, and apocatastasis; in this conversation, Catherine and the guys explore the perfection of God’s love both male and female and invite the listener to know Gods personal love for themselves.
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“Jesus is the dictionary in which we look up the meaning of words” – Eugene Peterson.
A God with smile lines, loving our enemies, recognizing miracles, proactive love, finding God in the midst of story, living a better story, awakening to a better gospel, the power of please, sorry, thanks, the breath of God, hindsight bias, imaginative meditation, and fantastical storytelling, in this podcast, Mark Batterson, Joel Clark, and the guys talk about the love of God discovered in storytelling and share about their new book series, I Changed The World. This bible story adventure series is aimed at tweens ages 9-12. The first title, David, is available now.
For more info on, I Changed The World Website: www.ichangedtheworldbooks.com Available on Amazon
The doctrine of inerrancy, a Christocentric hermeneutic, the multiple genres of literature within the bible, Jesus as perfect theology, intimacy, trust, and the goodness of God, overcoming evil, loving our enemies, a non-violent God, forgiveness, the American Church’s’ obsession with retribution, Christocentric pacifism, our interconnected-ness, justice; in this conversation, Jared Neusch and the guys dive into a Christ-Centered approach to life, faith, and Scripture.
“God here, I stand in you, God help me” Martin Luther. The reality of our completion, a pure grace, objective truth (Jesus), experiential truth (how we live it out), union and the God of the promises, evangelism, the ministry of reconciliation, law and grace (never the less, Christ is preached), obedience, community and healing from church trauma, in this podcast, Dr. Matt Pandel and the guys discuss faith, trust, and tacos.
"Are You Letting God Love You Today?"
Abundant life, the goodness and the GODness of God, loss, suffering, and trust, grieving and grace, and more grace, healing, embracing the heights and depths of the human story, becoming like Jesus, poetry and faith —in this podcast, John Blasé and the guys have a vulnerable conversation about life and trust and the GODness of God. John shares about his friendships with Brennan Manning and Eugene Peterson and the impact they both had on him and our world today.
“Are You Letting God Love You Today?” Abundant life, the goodness and the GODness of God, loss, suffering, and trust, grieving and grace, and more grace, healing, embracing the heights and depths of the human story, becoming like Jesus, poetry and faith, in this podcast, John Blasé and the guys have a vulnerable conversation about life and trust and the GODness of God. John shares about his friendships with Brennan Manning and Eugene Peterson and the impact they both had on him and our world today.
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The true goal of parenting—safe, loving, heart-to-heart connection with our kids—in this podcast, Brittney Serpell shares about growing mature in our own identity as parents, modeling repenting and humility, finding courage to fight for family, recognizing fear, control, and punishment in our parenting, trading perfectionism for trust and always pursuing heart-to-heart connection as we guide our kids on their own learning journey to becoming healthy, confident, emotionally intelligent, and strong in character.
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Redefining success, living loved—from Jesus, laying our lives down for one another, awakening to a union, living from rest, the peace that surpasses understanding, human flourishing, and dignity as the leading edge of love; in this podcast, the guys dive into how dignity seeks to protect the image of God in a person. Dignity treats every human interaction as if it were eternal.
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“The greatest manifestations of justice will find their genesis in a grassroots love for all mankind. I have more hope in a trickle-up effect vs the hierarchal top-down pyramid paradigm.”
Justice, love, respect, our shared humanity, a discussion around Christian Zionism and the peace of Jerusalem, ETC, and a shift in hearts and minds around war and the inevitability of peace; in this conversation, the guys connected with Joe Chadburn around the finished work of Jesus and an inevitable peace on earth as it is in heaven.
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“God didn’t want me because of anything I could do for Him; He wanted me just because He loves me.” Paradigm shifts, intimacy, eternal life, practical applied theology, a sustaining energy of a more subtle kind, the connection of all things, quantum science, quantum faith, the supernatural, miracles, signs and wonders, and union; in this conversation, Steve dives into the scientific universal nature of the love of God.
“I am not a biblical universalist… but you might call me a quantum universalist…”
“I don’t believe in ultimate reconciliation; I believe in historic reconciliation. I believe everything and everybody has already been reconciled to God, and they just don’t know it. And conversion is a recognition of what's already true of you…
“Is the universe a friendly place, is God love — yes…
“This is eternal life, that they may know you…” John 17:3
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“Did Christ accomplish a potentiality, or did Christ accomplish a reality?” Grace beyond theory, the road of union, discovering Christ in us and embedded in humanity, inclusion, the incarnation, experiencing God, and stories about church life and the journey of faith while searching for community; in this conversation with Logan Barone, the guys discuss the message of his book, The Mystery In You.
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“For too long the image and understanding of God, the One Jesus called “Abba”, has been hidden from view or distorted beyond recognition. The unspoken cry of sons and daughters all over the world is ‘Give us our Dad back!’”
A renewed mind, western wisdom vs. God’s wisdom, theology in relational terms, and above all, a Father who doesn’t just love us, He really likes us; in this conversation, Pete Scheller shares from his new book, Dancing with Wisdom. The guys dive deep into the Father nature of God and laugh along the way. You can learn more about Pete and his ministry as www.heartmindspirit.net
Hope, healing, intimacy, unconditional love, and acceptance; in this conversation, Rusty and Erin Pleune talk about the intentional steps they took to create a culture of connection in their marriage and how they now help couples do the same. They also dove into their journey of discovering community and deeper faith as they lean into the goodness of God.
You can learn more about Rusty & Erin & Making A Way at: www.makingawaymarriage.com
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God to Schlyce: “You never rebelled from me; you rebelled from a version of me that was never me…” Identity, the illusion of separation, trauma triggers and healing, how to hear the voice of God, experiencing the joy and wonder of continual fellowship with God; in this conversation, Schlyce Jimenez shares about her faith journey and her book, The Path. The Path helps readers discover how their life would be different if they could know the Father like Jesus did. You can learn more about Schlyce at www.schlyce.com
"The meaning of life is to find your gift, and the purpose of life is to give it away." - Pablo Picasso
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“I tell parents ‘You become the theology your kids believe” Engaging our kid's imaginations, learning to recognize God's voice, and encountering His love, life, joy, and friendship; in this conversation, Seth Dahl shares stories of transformation and gives insight into Spirit-led parenting. The guys talk about a good God and the journey into trust, intimacy, and union in the context of parenting. Learn more about Seth at www.spiritledfamilies.world
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“The reason you can't take your own human life seriously is because you’ve never taken my (Christ's) life seriously.” The incarnation, Jesus as fully human, Jesus and His divinity, grace, cruciform love, leaving Gnosticism, resurrection fearlessness, freedom, and salvation as a human story; in this conversation, Cherith shares a beautiful gospel in which we are discovering how to enter into the life of Jesus!
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"Consent is the depth of love..." Jonathan Foster shares about his book, Theology of Consent, where he blends René Girard’s scapegoating theory with open and relational theology. The guys talk about anthropology, mimetic theory, and the nature of love. This is a conversation for those already deep in the forest of theopoetics, life, love, the church, and theology.
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“The world is accelerating in the wrong direction. It feels like all we’re doing is trying to fix what's broken. And it isn’t working. We’re exhausted, overwhelmed, and losing heart. Where is God in all this? Well, he’s living a different story. A story he’s inviting us into.” That’s the back cover introduction to Allen's new book, The Eden Option. In this conversation, the guys dive in and explore a homeward journey, not to the Eden of the past, but a new Eden discovered in Christ. Union, rest, community, creativity, miracles, and hope, in this podcast Allen shares his journey into trust and maturing faith.
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“My mom exemplified this (The Tree of Life) further every time she invited the “black sheep” of the family to our family Christmas events. That was confusing to me as a child because in my mind, and in our culture, they were most certainly “Out,” yet that never deterred my mom from inviting them to our table.” Eden Jersak.
In this podcast, Pastor Eden shares about our heavenly Father's grace, love, kindness, and all-inclusive love. The cross, the journey of inclusion, reconciliation, pastoring, and valuing humanity as Jesus does, this conversation is between two relational human beings endeavoring to love well.
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Union, inclusion, sin, grace, sonship, the covenants, a very high view of Jesus and humanity, and biblical immortality, Tommy Miller shares about his new book, Deathless. Tommy is passionate about seeing the local Church equip sons to look like their Father and create atmospheres that look like heaven, and it’s evident in this revelatory conversation.
"Deathless" is a thought-provoking exploration of the concept of biblical immortality, and the guys have a brilliant conversation unpacking this thought.
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Lucifer and the devil, God, and control, union vs. separation, awakening to Light, Life, and Love, and approaching scripture through sonship; in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart breaks down myths for truth and sheds light on many of our religious misconceptions that have been built upon separation.
Jamie’s understanding of the Kingdom of God, the New Covenant, and the heart of the Father is evident in every word he speaks.
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Perhaps no modern church dogma has been more destructive to the mission of Jesus, created more atheists, or generated more religious trauma than that of eternal conscious torment (ECT).
In this podcast, the guys talk with Thomas Jay Oord and Keith Giles about their collaboration on Chad Bahl’s book, Deconstructing Hell. The book brings together experts in their fields to take the reader on a historical, philosophical, and theological journey to deconstruct this harmful doctrine, and the podcast highlights Oord and Gile's contribution.
The guys dive into the "logic of love" and offer compelling pathways to reconstruct a biblical perspective on the nature of God and our understanding of hell.
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This podcast announces and features Jason’s new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus, in audio format. Retribution is the title of chapter seven and is presented in its entirety.
In this chapter and podcast, Jason juxtaposes retribution with reconciliation and recognizes that a punishment lens on the nature of God is one of the reasons the church is navigating broken trust. It’s also why we currently find ourselves in a Deconstruction Movement.
God is as Jesus revealed Him, and on a cross Jesus forgave. And on a cross, God, in Christ, reconciled the world to Himself.
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Pastoring a community, faith and living in mystery, putting unconditional love before understanding, kindness that leads to repentance, the nature of trust, punishment hell, Bible College, the Age of Certainty, and timeless reconciling love - in this conversation, Shawn Harnish shares about his 25-plus years of pastoring in one area and the transforming discovery of the finished work of the cross. Add to that, 25-plus years of friendship with Jason and a mutual love of the Buffalo Bills, and you got a profound and fun conversation - Go Bills!
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“…You are absolutely perfect in the Father's eyes! You can't become more perfect than you already are. His heart is captivated by you!” Grace, resurrection, life, the finished work of the cross, and the impact on sin, death, and sickness, this conversation is an invitation to realize and awaken to the fact that we are co-seated with Christ. Robin speaks to the love of our Father, His affection – “He has always loved us we take His breath away!” We are loved in the same way our Father loved Jesus!
This conversation also included Robin's passion for writing and her new publishing venture, The Writers Society www.thewriterssociety.online
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“The Spirit said to me, ‘I want you to hand to me everything that you believe to be true about God and let me hand back to you everything that is true.’”
Racism, deconstruction, shame, guilt, certainty, empathy, infinite mercy, grace, healing, and other-centered, self-giving love, in this amazing conversation, Felecia and Jason visit fear and prejudice while leaning into the AND of God's always present, empathetic, reconciling love.
We don’t get to healing without Truth…(we) don’t get to healing in denial – so (we) have to own both the wound and (our) responsibility and completeness….”
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“It’s Christmas Eve, and instead of dreaming of the best day of the year, the boy is in his bedroom agonizing over the universal question: Does God…sorry, I mean Santa Claus, really exist?”
In this final podcast of 2022 and season three, Jason shares a story from his first book about the Polar Express, and faith. Whether you're tired or wide awake, full or empty, lost or found, sick or whole, you are loved by Triune God who walks beside you, will never leave you, and invites you to awaken to His affection and love. “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth, peace, and goodwill toward men!”
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
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“Biblically, sex is something that is mutual, intimate, and pleasurable for both…But in the church, we have made sex into a male entitlement, and a female obligation. And it’s really hurt us.” Sheila Gregoire.
In this conversation, the guys talked with Sheila and Keith about intimacy, sex, and God’s design for our marriages. Based on groundbreaking surveys of more than twenty-five thousand people, the Gregoires shared how our theology impacts our intimacy, the nature of our sex drives, porn addiction, and freedom, all for the purpose of helping husbands and wives discover intimacy and experience great sex! This is both an inciteful and fun conversation.
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“Whether I’m high or low, in heaven or hell, nothing can ever separate me from God’s love.” Jason dives into a memoir he helped his friend, baseball legend, Jason Grimsley, write. They guys talk about Jason’s wild and unbelievable life. This conversation is part storytelling, part revelation, and all testimony of the love of God.
Jason shares about several hardships he’s faced, including a botched suicide attempt and the near destruction of his marriage. The guys shared insights and wisdom for the highs and lows of life. And all along the way, they highlighted the message of the book. Cross Stitched displays the very real and present love of God and the abundant life He offers us when we surrender to Him.
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The Kingdom within, relational intimacy, a triune God reconciling the world to Himself, faith like Abraham, hermeneutics, and an Emmaus Road Deconstruction, in this podcast, Jason talks with his friend Matthew Hester about his new book, Leaving and Finding Jesus. “Repenting is a de and reconstruction all in one,” and in this conversation, the fellas talk about an Emmaus Road walk with Jesus where He gently and definitively reveals the Cornerstone of faith, God in Christ, reconciling the world to Himself.
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“I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.” In this podcast, Zahnd shares about the Christian faith in alignment with Jesus and the journey he’s taken in discovering this good news! De- and reconstruction, a non-violent, non-retributive God who is reconciling the world to Himself, hermeneutics, hell, and the wonder of church deep and wide, in this conversation, the guys discuss a much richer, wider faith. The guys dive into Brian’s book, "When Everything’s on Fire,” a conversation that invites us to move beyond the crisis of faith toward the journey of reconstruction.
QUOTES
“I was having a crisis of faith but not regarding Christ… I felt like the Jesus I knew deserved a better Christianity than the Christianity I knew.”
“Christians should never say that Christianity is the absolute truth, they should say Jesus is the Truth.”
“Jesus is the only perfect theology.”
“The Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it… Often, in any fundamentalist form of Protestantism, the bible become Christianity… the Bible by itself cannot sustain the pressure that is put upon it…”
“What the Bible does perfectly, and inerrantly, is point us to Jesus.”
“All scripture finds its fulfillment in Christ.”
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This podcast highlights Jason’s book, Leaving and finding Jesus, where he writes about his deconstructing faith journey. The book is Jason’s Emmaus Road discovery of a love that is reconciling all creation; a journey where he’s awakening to a burning heart while leaving every Jesus who won’t lay His life down for His friends.
This podcast features a message Jason gave at an icuTalks where he addresses trauma within the church. He confronts the myth of separation with the truth that absolutely nothing, not life or death, powers or authorities, not present or future, not our understandings, beliefs, systems, or actions, nothing separates us from the reconciling love of God.
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Derek and Jason dive into the fivefold (APEST) typology of ministry as articulated in Ephesians 4:1-1 with Brandon Kelly, the co-director at 5Qcollective. APEST stands for the Apostolic, Prophetic, Evangelistic, Shepherding, and Teaching intelligence that Jesus gifted to his body.
The guys discussed the fivefold in connection with the nature of God as non-hierarchal and inclusive, laced throughout creation and culture, reconstituted and perfectly exemplified in the life and ministry of Jesus, embedded into the very foundations of the Church, and subsequently expressed through the lives of the countless saints that make it up.
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“Eternal life is not on a timeline, it is the ever-present now" Wm Paul Young, author of The Shack, talks with Lloyd and Jason Clark about eternal life, an authentic friendship with our Father where we are free to live in the ever-present now. Union, peace, grace, expectancy, trust, facing our fear, the incarnation, death, writing for the one, and stories about Pauls's friends on death row and the Shack movie, this is an authentic and vulnerable conversation.
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“The natural habitat is to be enveloped in the love of God.”
The thread through all Winn Collier's work is delight in the God who exists as the blazing center of everything that is good, beautiful, and true; and you feel that in this conversation. In this podcast, Winn and Jason talk about God's hope and heart for all creation to know we belong to one another. The guys dive into wholeness, cruciform love, and what it means to be fully human.
Then Winn talks about his friendship with Eugene Peterson, writer of The Message Translation. Winn shares about the biography he recently released on Eugene's incredible life, A Burning In My Bones, and on their shared heart for pastors and the church!
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“Faith is a seed that is to be planted firmly in the love of God." Atheism, politics, nationalism, identity, punishment, hell, evangelism, and the church, in this conversation Derek and Jason, dive into a faith that is not transactional and always relational. The guys talk about how it’s the power of kindness to change the world. This is a generous conversation between two friends who are becoming sure that God is like Jesus and always has been; two fellas rethinking what it means to be a friend of God.
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Leif Hetland’s profound and powerful personal testimonies bring to light what it means to be transformed by God’s love. Leif has been recognized as an ambassador of the Father’s love—an everyday person who has received divine opportunities to bring God’s light into some of the darkest places on earth.
In this conversation Leif, Mark Appleyard 7 Jason dive into Leif’s new book, The Love Awakening. Through personal stories, the guys discuss the powerful, supernatural Baptism of Love that breaks off shame, affirms identity, and reveals the unconditional love of the Father. This is a life-giving conversation around union, evangelism, and the miraculous.
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The human soul has a built-in yearning for joy and beauty and all good things. But that craving for life has taken a real beating in recent years. Between false promises of ease and comfort on one side and the sheer trauma of global disease and disasters on the other, people today are facing a shortage of peace, happiness, and strength.
In this conversation, John and Jason dive into John's new book, Resilient. The guys talk about life and faith during and since the pandemic. They dive into the evidence of trauma, how to discover peace in the midst of disappointment, the dark night of the soul, de- and reconstruction, and ultimately union. This conversation reveals a path toward genuine recovery and resilience provided by Jesus himself.
Justin Stumvoll is a speaker, teacher, and life consultant who knows the kindness of God and loves to create space for individuals to find healing so they can be their most authentic selves Just dives into Love being the key to helping folks walk through the gritty, vulnerable and real approach to transformation. This was a fast-paced conversation where the guy’s traded stories about the reconciling nature of God; they talked about punishment, self-judgment, reconciliation, justice, sin, grace, freedom from addiction, and more. This podcast is bursting with the kindness of God that transforms the world.
QUOTES
“The thing that is completely different with Jesus (as opposed to) any other religious system is that there is no hierarchy.”
“We are tormented by our disconnection to love that causes us to believe that “I am abandoned.”
“You are more than the amalgamation of the messes you’ve made.”
“People are terrified of forgiveness because it strips them of control…under a law-based system I can control the love of God… this removes relationship and trust…
“There’s no such thing as an atheist, there are just people that really question religion.”
“When I look at an individual, I (am able to) have grace for their messes, (because) I don’t see a 40-year-old, I see a five-year-old…”
John Crowder pulls from the different streams of the church to talk about Christilogical Trinitarian theology, grace, union, contemplative practice, intimacy, and mystical Christianity. John and Jason dive into the Cross, Western atonement theories, and the religious industry built upon separation; how Jesus is healing the human race. John describes a relationship with a person, Christ. He invites us to embrace mystery so we might discover that God looks like Jesus.
QUOTES
“People are grabbing the Trinitarian Father, this gospel message…”
“I saw the connection between the church mystics and post-Azusa Street Pentecostalism, it was the presence orientation that connected these streams.”
“We’ve pulled from a lot of different streams; I could see baby Jesus in the bathwater.”
“I think there is a merger happening that we got to get a hold of, a Christological, Trinitarian theology that is contemplative in its experience and employment.”
“The biggest problem in the church is separation thinking, between you and Jesus, and between Jesus and His Father”
“This idea that the Father is turning his back on the Son, that Jesus is the whipping boy for the Father's wrath, this is preached as the gospel, an atonement theory, a twisted one at that, being preached as the gospel in the western church. These atonement theories are demonic in nature. (And) There’s almost no grid for what the cross means outside that…”
“What did not happen on the cross, which is a complete fabrication, a demonic fairy tale, the Trinity was not imploding on Itself…Jesus was healing the human race…”
“There have always been pluralities in the Godhead and He has always desired family”
“Religion builds an industry on the concept of separation.”
This conversation with Jason Clark was hosted by Brent Lokker on his youtube channel Vibrant Life. This podcast begins with two dads sharing stories about helping their children encounter God as a loving Father. The guys dive into obedience in the context of union and friendship, learning to trust the unchanging nature of our Father, not as retributive, punishing, or abandoning, but as the tenderhearted one who accepts us, loves us, and is always good!
They discussed what it looks like to live as God's friend, not as a servant. Why Jesus cried out on the cross, "My God, my God, why have your forsaken me?" Knowing and trusting the Father who was in Christ reconciling the world to himself. Dreaming with a good Father. The positive side of the deconstruction movement. Reconstructing our lives on the cornerstone of the real Jesus.
Karen Swallow Prior is a Reader, Writer, and Professor in that order, which was discussed in this conversation along with the power of language, the Word becoming flesh, the connection of imagination with logic and reason, empathy, trauma, the theodicy of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, and love being the center of our conversations. Karen also shares about getting hit by a literal bus and how she grew in her understanding that her life is in God’s hands.
QUOTES
“We express our sense of ourselves and our experience through language and even before we express it, we understand it that way.”
“Language helps us interpret our experiences…what stories we tell ourselves or what we tell other people about what happened to us. It's an interpretive frame for the rest of our lives.”
Regarding the Word became flesh: “To think about words as symbols and even that idea is also a metaphor but also literal… I can’t even understand it on a literal level but the possibilities and the implications are endless and it should shape everything that we think and we do.”
“What I’m trying to understand better about God… is how we relate to God through the church and in the church that is so imperfect and fallen…”
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Scott Crowder is a pastor, singer-songwriter, and one of Jason’s closest friends. The guys dive into their love for the church, about learning how to be present with God, ourselves, each other, and our community. Scott talks about creating church cultures that practice the fruits of the Spirit, learning to lead ourselves and others in seasons of joy and sorrow, that “success” isn’t about numbers, cool fads, or being 'front runners,' it’s discovered in community.
QUOTES
“'Success,’ in a word is, ‘presence.’ I don’t mean that in the school of ‘the glory cloud came.’ I mean, I can be present to you, as you are present to me, as we are present to this moment, as we can be present to where we live, and we are not stuck in a dream of an ideal community that we never can become.”
“When you’re present, you’re present to pain. When you’re present as a servant, as a leader, you’re present when you can do nothing for that person or they can do nothing for you.”
“How many faithful people did we (the church) overlook…faithful movements did we overlook because they didn’t bear the fruit that we thought kingdom-building looked like. They didn’t promote themselves (but) they’ve been here the whole time.”
“I am a witness or witnesses, I’m part of the church at large, whether I want to be or not. So, I’m learning to value those voices and people who have gone before me.”
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Thomas Jay Oord shares about open relational theology; how it connects with the way we live and matches our deepest intuitions. The guys talked about a relational God who is genuinely loving, looks like Jesus, and walks through each day with us, impacting and impacted by our friendship.
Thomas describes an uncontrolling, loving God, that harmonizes with scripture. In this podcast, he dives into the subjects of hell, prayer, and evangelism all through the lens of open relational theology.
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Daniel Grothe and the guys discuss his new book, The Power of Place, which speaks to the sense of loneliness that many feel in today's age of hypermobility and noncommittal wandering, reminding us of the ancient vow of stability and teaching us how we can lead a richer life of friendship, community, and purpose.
They also touch on the deconstruction movement within the church, how authoritarian leadership has wounded and undermined trust, and how healing and connection are available only where we practice the long game of family.
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The goodness of God but hell, atonement but hell, reformation but hell, scripture but hell, Calvinism but hell; in this podcast Peter Hiett describes hell as “Satan's big but.”
In this conversation Peter walks us through the story of our own creation, the goodness of God’s reconciling love, the relational kindness of a God who encounters, sets free and transforms.
Peter describes a God who delights in His creation, a God destroys what is evil, creates what is good, and invites us to observe our own creation in Christ Jesus.
QUOTES
Regarding relentless love and hell “At that point I was simply saying I want to hope this is true. And they said, “you can hope it, but you can’t believe it’s possible.”
“Knowledge of evil is believing I have to justify myself.”
“It's really not very complicated at all. If you take out the middle point of (Calvinism’s) limited atonement, you're left with a beautiful picture of this God who is raising his children and creating them in His image and He does it through His atonement and His atonement won't fail…”
“When you announce good news, you don’t say, “Now this is what you need to do about it, you just tell people, and the news changes folks.”
"But if you’re a part of the institution, you want people to give to the budget, you want them to go on the church retreat, you want them to come help pull weeds in the garden. So, you’re always tempted to say, “believe this or…something.” Well, hell is a huge “or something.”
“The good news, the Word, it carries the power within itself, you don’t need to con anyone into obedience.”
“His goodness is beyond anything we’ve understood.”
"Regarding Romans 5 “As in Adam all die, so in Christ, all will be made alive, and it’s the best most beautiful news.”
“That sloppy universalism that just says ‘Oh God feels great about everybody and it doesn’t matter what you do.” It leaves everybody feeling empty because we all know something is really wrong with humanity and really wrong with me and my neighbor. I think scripture reveals that, yeah, were half made, were not finished yet. God is gonna destroy what is evil and create what’s good and you’re observing your own creation in Christ Jesus. And in the end, absolutely everything is a gift of your Father and you can’t even begin to comprehend how much He delights in you.”
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How to experience God, confession, faith, fear, freedom, our true identity, and cruciform, others-focused, self-emptying, unconditional love barely scratches the surface of this packed conversation on the goodness of God. Jamie and Donna Winship share how we can discover our true identity through a relationship with God and each other.
QUOTES
“So, we lose the great commandment and pick up the great commission, we’re exchanging love for conflict.” Jamie
“Most people aren’t even aware that they are living separate from who they really are.” Donna
“Your true identity is the essence of who you are at your core and it’s something to be discovered through your lifetime and worked out in relationship. You cannot set apart your identity from relationship with God and relationship with other people.” Donna
“I think it’s important to note that your identity is not your gender, not your sexual preference, not your job, not your political party, not your religion…” Donna
“You can study business ethics all day long but if you’re in a scarcity model its always gonna come up to not enough.” Jamie
“You’re in a world that’s every day says “there’s not enough.” It’s the lie that we live in. But there is an alternative world view.” Jamie
“You can’t intellectually have faith. Faith comes from experience and experiential relationship.” Donna
“All identities we discover about ourselves are identities of Jesus in one form or another.” Donna
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Union, a Triune God, mutual indwelling others-centered love (perichoresis) approaching scripture to discover Jesus, and communion are some of the themes Rod Williams dives into. What if “all” means "all" and God isn’t distant? There is no distance, no separation in God and this conversation is a beautiful invitation to awaken to that discovery and our union with Him.
QUOTES
"To build the kingdom of God you need a clear picture of Jesus that you communicate in love."
"If you’re believing in a little stick figure Jesus that you walk on to get to the real God, you're not believing in the real Jesus, you're believing in something we manufactured to build our empires."
"Still, today you'll hear people say ‘Well God is love but God is fear,’ which comes from our Greek dualism… the reality is God is not two conflicting things. We invented conflict, God is not in conflict.”
"No one comes to the Father but by me. We make that an exclusive statement but it's not, He’s saying 'I am here,' and this is why you can come to the Father."
“Here’s the deal, we can have a Father who can’t be in the presence of sin, or we can have Jesus be God, but we can’t have both.”
“Beholding is more important than explaining most of the time.”
"He does nothing as a judge he wouldn’t do as a father,” George McDonald
"God bless some of the movements we’ve been a part of because they talked about the Father Heart of God. But they didn’t go back and fix their theology."
“We can’t talk about union as a kinder gentler Arianism or a slightly more practical Gnosticism, we have to look at it as, 'This is LIFE.'”
“So many of the race problems and identity politics and all that stuff will just fade away as we begin to see we all have the same origin.”
“We were made to have ecstatic experiences in the mystical union with God.”
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Co-Author of A Church Called TOV, Scot McKnight talks about his new book written in response to the abuses of power, sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse within the leadership of Willow Creek, Harvest, and sadly churches of all shapes and sizes.
We talked about TOV (which means goodness) and how when we practice empathy, compassion, extending grace, putting people first, telling the truth, promoting justice, and serving others, TOV emerges in the culture and we all become more Christlike.
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Matt Chandler, pastor, and writer, recently used the phrase “a sexy fad” when describing the deconstruction movement. Derek and Jason highlight his statement to dive into the nature of their own de/ and reconstruction. They have become even more convinced that God is in the restoration business.
This podcast dives into sin, grace, reconciliation, and God's love for all His kids, the church deep and wide. Ultimately, the guys kick off season three embracing Rom 8:38-29 “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
God’s sovereignty revealed by Jesus through cruciform, self-giving love, the nature of trust, intimacy, and union, and the transforming truth that there is no shadow of turning with God, in this podcast the guys explore Jason’s upcoming book, Leaving (& finding) Jesus.
This conversation juxtaposes an inclusive, reconciling, self-giving, unconditional view of God's love against an excluding, hierarchal, punishment-focused, conditional view of God's love.
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Bruxy Cavey, author, and pastor of The Meeting House, dives into relational faith, loving God through loving our neighbor, repenting with a hopeful future focus, how doubt is connected to our faith, how we are not people of the book (bible) we are people of the person (Jesus), and three perspectives on hell concluding with the fact that the New Testament church never leveraged hell to get people to make a decision to for Jesus.
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Naeem Fazal, founding pastor of Mosaic Church, and author of Ex-Muslim, talks about deconstruction or reimaging God. Naeem talks about the importance of being able to recognize God outside of our personal context, how to view sin, how to approach scripture, and a beautiful gospel that’s not just about a Jesus who saves but about a Jesus who is restoring humanity and all creation.
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Paraphrasing the sermons of George MacDonald, Dale Howie shares his sometimes painful, often beautiful, journey of awakening to the irreducible truth of life discovered in relationship. He speaks to grace, our common Fatherhood, our inclusion in Christ’s life, death and resurrection, our union, and the wonder of our humanity. A humble storyteller and relational theologian, Dale speaks as a father on behalf of Our Father, who loves all His children with a reconciling love.
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Intimacy within marriage, the connection between intimacy and mutuality, the nature of trust, the definition of sex, addressing transactional vs relational thinking, dismantling obligation, addressing objectification and broken ideologies developed from Eph 5:22, “Wives submit to your husbands…” Sheila Gregoire practically rethinks sex so husbands and wives can experience intimacy, joy, and deeper connection.
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“Christian faith, for me, is no longer a static location but a great spiritual journey…what matters most…is not where we are but where we’re going." This podcast is a gentle invitation to discover a way of faith defined by love.
Brian and Jason discuss navigating rejection, stepping away from literalism, and inerrancy in our approach to scripture and faith, and their personal journey of trusting that God is better than our best thoughts about Him.
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An infinite love, the nature of revelation, a kindness that changes our minds, the joy of our salvation discovered as we awaken to the resurrection, the risen Christ within us, in this podcast Derek and Jason discuss how all creation is awakening to the transforming certainty of sacrificial love and resurrection life.
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Patriarchy, authoritarian rule, the nature of power and privilege in America and the Church, the deconstruction movement, Christians in politics; in this podcast, Professor and Historian Kristin Du Mez, examines the impact of perhaps the most influential subculture in this country, white evangelicalism. This conversation explores how evangelicals have stepped away from the Jesus of the Gospels, from sacrificial love. “But what was once done, can be undone.”
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“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.” Brian Simmons, author of The Passion Translation, talks about approaching scripture with a love theology, the oppressive impact of hyper literalism, women in ministry, equality, union, Jesus’ humanity inside the Trinity, the finished work of the cross, and the passionate, powerful, transforming love of God.
QUOTES
“Pauline theology will get perverted if you don’t start at the song of songs. I’m convinced that Paul got most of his doctrinal teachings from encounters with the Lord and from an open bible with Song of Songs.”
“It’s just error to hyper literalize the song of songs, it’s a beautiful symphony of love… it’s a book that literally starts with a kiss”
“We have forgotten that Jesus Christ is a human being, that inside the Trinity is a man…and this human nature of Jesus is mingled with the divine…”
“A human being can be moved with feelings and passions… Jesus is every bit a man, inside the trinity. The universe is ruled by the passions of a man.”
“How we hear is every bit as important as what we are reading.”
“This love theology is the key to the great harvest of the nations.”
“God has to love you to be God. It’s almost like He wouldn’t be God if He didn’t love you intensely, powerfully.”
“To dishonor women and to say they can’t minister…goes counter to the heart of God.”
“You said earlier you’re a relational theologian, that’s exactly how we need to interpret scripture.”
“You literally have to have a love lens on your heart to read scripture, then you’ll read it the way God has written it for us.”
“The bible, minus love, equals false teaching, false living, and fosters an anger in the soul of man.”
“He that is joined to the Lord is one spirit (1 Cor 6:17), so the union is complete. When He said it’s finished it's not only the work of the cross but it’s the perfected union that He has given us.”
“Nothing can separate us, not things present or things future, He doesn’t even mention the past because we don’t have a past. Our past ended with three nails; we only have a destiny, not a history.”
Trauma, pain, empathy like Jesus, and healing for the oppressed, misunderstood, lost, or broken; in this podcast David Tensen shares how we are loved and not alone. Addressing how shame and condemnation are compounded by religion, the guys talked specifically about abortion and the LGBTQ community with an invitation to love like Jesus, through our union with God and reconciliation.
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Healing, miracles, the power of God, evangelism through the gospel of inclusion, faith, and reframing repentance, Carlos shares about his journey of discovering that the miraculous, or a transformed life, is simply about discovering God’s love and our origin and union in Him. This conversation parallels and features the content from Carlos’ first book, Roar, Walking in God’s Power without Apology.
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“The two greatest myths that we, as humans, believe, are the myth of separation and the myth of scarcity.”
Grace, empathy, spiritual maturity, identity, destiny, purpose, and a sense of our eternal significance and worth; in this podcast, Randall Worley dives headlong into the measureless transforming and reconciling mystery of the love of God.
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Sarah Turner and Karen Clark take the hosting reins to share their de/reconstructing faith journey and how, primarily through parenting, they began to rethink who God is and their approach to scripture, church, and ministry.
From Harry Potter and the college years to church life - the good, the bad, and the ugly, they talk about how parenting for connection and living an honest relationship with a loving God, is the most transformative thing we can do in our lives, our kids lives, and in ministry.
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The Bible uses the word, Christian, to describe followers of Jesus a grand total of three times. But there's another identifier that fills the pages of the New Testament--a word we've mistakenly reserved for the halo-wearing elite, losing something profound in the process. Saints.
Identity, union, searching scripture through the lens of Jesus, and holiness discovered through community, Addison brilliantly reveals that we are beloved saints.
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He came and he walked beside us, He said, “I will never leave you, I will never forsake you; you are not alone, you belong.” When we discover this love, we are transformed and we begin to love as He does.
On Palm Sunday Derek speaks about the cross and how we are invited to live surrendered and sure in love. He talks about laying down our lives, loving our enemies, and seeing the kingdom come.
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What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, LOVE! Through a fresh look at God’s sovereignty, Jason invites you into a transforming encounter with the love and goodness of our heavenly Father.
This is part 2 of Sovereign Love, a six-session teaching series by Jason Clark based on his book, God Is (Not) In Control. Book and teaching series are available at www.afamilystory.org
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Navigating through loss with a good God, experiencing the presence of God as a loving Father, loving our neighbor, democrat and republican, and love answering every question that aches in the heart of humanity, Doug Crew shares on these subjects and more with insight and grace. Doug is the executive leader of Shiloh Place Ministries and a good friend of the podcast.
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Mystery, faith, salvation and awaking to Christ’s likeness within us, adoption and sonship, being in the family, discovering the Word in scripture, and living from union, we discuss this and more with Matthew Hester in a passionate conversation around the love of God. Matthew is an author, pastor of Dominion Church (Greer SC), and founder of Hester Ministries and Present Truth Academy.
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Harold and Linda Eberle share about the catalytic love of God that is transforming our western understanding of the church. They speak on victorious mindsets, kingdom thinking, the myth of separation, reconciliation through the death of Jesus, and salvation through his life; plus old elephants! This is a power-packed interview full of profound insight.
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Brilliant, compassionate, and empowering, world-renowned neuroscientist and best-selling author, Dr. Caroline Leaf, talks about her new book, Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess. She addresses what happens when we don’t use our minds properly. Why mind-management is the solution to cleaning up our mental mess and how the science can help us transition from being aware of toxic thoughts to catching and managing them. In other words, she teaches us how to renew our minds.
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Salvation, justice, equality, the bible, and the unconditional transformative always good Love of God; in this insightful interview, Kathryn talks about her spiritual deconstruction and the journey of rethinking God. She brilliantly addresses the sin of certainty, newfound feminism, and a Love that casts out all fear.
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What if God’s love, perfectly revealed through the cross, restores all things? What if the world is already reconciled in Christ and we are simply awakening to that gospel? What if Christ is our message and we preach to awaken hearts?
Derek and Jason dive into our union in Christ and how that impacts everything from knowing our identity to loving our “enemies,” to evangelism, to navigating cross moments in our lives.
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Shame is a belief that ‘I’m not good enough.’ You can’t manufacture it on your own – someone else has to give it to you. In this podcast, Physiotherapist Kim Honeycutt addresses, shame, blame the trauma of rejection. She brilliantly highlights our intrinsic worth, our identity in Christ, and the journey from rejection to acceptance.
“So much of our surrender to the Lord is (about) unlearning what key people in our lives taught us."
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"The gospel is not an invitation to accept Jesus into our hearts, it’s a proclamation that Jesus has already accepted us into His heart." As a kind father, Don Keathley generously talks on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, our union, grace, our identity, how to approach scripture, and the lie of eternal conscious torment.
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God creates order from disorder and we have been invited to co-create with Him. In the midst of chaos, “we associate peace with answers. God associates peace with Union.” In this conversation with Allen Arnold, author of Chaos Can’t, we discuss how we create around us from what is in us; that creating with God brings order and trueness to our lives, systems, and cultures that have become untrue and disordered.
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In this podcast, Lloyd Clark, Jason’s dad, talks about his faith journey from behavior-focused religious striving into grace and the love of our Father; about waking up every morning in the revelation of being enough. With humor and authenticity, Lloyd talks about the finished work of the Cross, how Jesus fixed the problem of separation, and our invitation to awaken to our union.
“The whole sin conscious mindset has you waking up every morning ‘not enough.”’
“The call of God is, “Receive my Son” Derek Turner
“Everything we did and everything we built was out of insecurity because we didn’t know we were enough.”
“God never came to me with shame”
“When you’re not enough, everything you do is tainted with insecurity.”
“I know exactly what you’re going through, I know the pain. I have felt that betrayal.”
“If a kid can’t get it, it’s not the gospel.”
“Jesus fixed the problem of separation.”
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Thomas Jay Oord's book, God Can’t, rethinks God’s power as a means of explaining evil.
"Given that we start with God's power…we end up giving God the kind of capabilities that make God culpable, in other words, morally responsible for not only causing but allowing bad things…I think there are good biblical reasons to object to that standard view of Gods power."
In this podcast, we talk about how God's power, his sovereignty, is best understood through the uncontrolling love of God.
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Separation theology has been woven into nearly every teaching we have in the church. It's in how we approach scripture, personal devotion, how to approach relationship, leadership, pastoring, prophecy, evangelism… on and on the heresy of separation is the "leaven in the dough" of our faith. The delusion that God abandons his creation is a foundational lie that must be dug up.
In this first episode of season two, Jason and new host Derek Turner dive into the wonder of what Jesus revealed about our Father and humanity through the cross and resurrection.
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“If you can define it, you automatically have confined it as well.”
Randall Worley talks about having a “beginner’s mind,” faith while embracing mystery, pioneering and the nature of heresy, the limits of language, approaching scripture through love, and the importance of remaining curious while understanding that God is not insecure or defensive when we raise hard questions.
“If we are afraid of the answers we will never ask the hard questions.”
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You love me, but you don’t know who I am. Those are the words God spoke to Michael several years ago and it led him on a journey into measureless love, grace, and union with an always good, never leaving, no distance or separation, Triune God. With grace and joy the conversation dove into the two greatest lies on the planet, Penal Substitution and Eternal Conscious Torment.
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In this podcast, Katie Skurja talks about discovering our humanity in the image of God, shame and behavior, grace and identity, paradox and spiritual and emotional maturity, freedom, and intrinsic authority.
Katie runs a private practice in North Plains, Oregon, has a Masters in Marriage and Family Therapy as well as a Masters of Spiritual Direction. She speaks with grace and great authority, we absolutely loved this conversation!
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Eric Johnson, the senior pastor of Bethel Church in Redding CA, shares generously, humbly and with great insight on the goodness of God, navigating culture, Jesus and American politics, spiritual maturity, emotional health, and what it means to be alive.
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Therapists Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield discuss attachment theory and how it intersects with our spirituality and plays out in our church culture.
The parent-child relationship and our formative years greatly influence how we navigate everything, including our spirituality and faith. Often our theological deconstructions are the fruit of discovering a God with whom we feel loved, secure, and safe; where we move from insecure to secure attachment.
Amy Simmons and Krispin Mayfield host the Attached To The Invisible PODCAST
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Risk, trust, pioneering and a church built upon encounters with the transformative love of God, this podcast is an invitation to rethinking church.
From the traditional to a micro church model, Mark and Julie share their journey of pastoring.
Today, through Anothen Micro Church, they empower believers around the world to become influential spiritual leaders in their homes and communities.
For more on Anothen go to www.anothen.co
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This is a laughter-filled conversation about a kind God and a transformative faith.
We all have friends who walk with us and encourage and challenge us. Those people who we call when we get a revelation or breakthrough, Jarred Teague is that guy for Thomas.
Jarred grew up Baptist with loving parents. But much of his thoughts about his faith were filtered through a retributive God lens. So Jarred was faced with the intellectual disparity of a good God who would send people to hell to prove His love.
But years ago, Jarred walked away from that fractured faith and discovered the simple gospel, God is like Jesus. This has led to great freedom, transformation, and the realization that when the gospel is the love of God we can change the world.
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Approaching scripture, prayer, and our participation in the divine life, Father Kenneth Tanner explores a faith that beautiful in its simplicity; God really loves humanity.
Kenneth talks about a wonderfully multifaceted church. He address how to approach scripture through community with both the contemporary and historic church. “It’s an experiential relationship with the church that reveals the whole picture of Jesus and how we should read scripture,” Kenneth speaks to prayer, once again approaching the subject through community, and finally, he speaks to our divinity in Christ.
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With grace, Sarah Floyd shares about her working theology, the enneagram, power of story, and how rethinking God in light of his goodness has led to peace, less anxiety, and religious works. This was such a refreshing, honest, and insightful conversation highlighting how we are all on a faith journey of transformation and discovery.
Sarah Floyd is a Speech-Pathologist by trade but recognizes that she is a working theologian (just like the rest of us). She discusses how she started rethinking God, her anxiety tied to spirituality, and her working theology.
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Scandalous multifaceted fathomless grace, restorative justice, redeemed identity, our union with Abba Father, and intimacy with a Triune God barely scratches the surface of this 40-minute power-packed interview with Dr. Steve McVey.
For more on Dr. Steve McVey go to www.gracewalk.org
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Mark speaks on the disorienting faith shift so many are currently experiencing regarding their thoughts about God, the church, and ourselves.
With grace and insight, Mark addresses the PTSD symptoms of those who have been de-churched; “…those who wanted community and got judgment, who wanted to affect the life of the church and got bureaucracy, who wanted conversation and got doctrine, who wanted meaningful engagement with the world and got moral prescription. ”
This Podcast encourages those who have experienced some form of a shift in their theology and then have either felt a sense of not belonging in their home church or have even been rejected.
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“This is eternal life… “ That is how John 17 starts. It is the only place in all of scripture where you’ll even get close to a direct definition of what eternal life is. And Jesus defines eternal as a relationship. My entire education had defined eternal life as believing the right ideology… All I knew was, God was better than I thought he was and there was no way I’m going back…”
In this Podcast, John MacMurray shares with humor, ease, and insight into the nature of our Triune God’s love and faithful pursuit of humanity.
Quotes”
“If God is doing his best for man all the time it just changes the landscape of how I look at life and humanity, it changes everything.”
“The Father, Son, and Spirit say, ‘well, he won’t get his nose out of John so maybe we should meet him there. The way God loves us is, if you won’t get our nose out of playboy, then He’ll meet you here…’”
“When does punishment reconcile anything? It literally has no power to reconcile.”
“The theology I followed was leading me to a God that was a monster.”
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A month ago we invited you to ask questions, you did. This podcast was our response to a handful of those questions…
In this episode, Thomas and Jason discussed their faith journeys while responding to questions regarding Judas and hell, how to navigate push back from those who think differently, how to pray without ceasing and without desperation, and finally, what core thoughts about God have we changed in the last ten years.
Both highlighted how they have moved from a punishment focused faith to a restorative focused faith. Both noted how a restorative God changes the way they interact with those who disagree and how it has affected their prayer lives. They discussed a faith in God's goodness that empowers us to navigate disappointment and highlighted the difference between empathy and compassion.
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Parenting, leadership, freedom through self-control, spiritual maturity, emotional health, the nature of our Father, and heaven and hell, Danny’s thoughts and gracious communication are empowering and transformative. It was an honor to discuss the unpunishing nature of God with Danny!
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www.lovingonpurpose.com
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Brent Lokker talks about a personal God, a Father who wants a relationship above all of us. Identity, how to approach scripture to encounter God, how to discover freedom from sin, brain science, and early childhood trauma, this podcast is an invitation into wholeness.
“Wholeness isn’t loving God with all our hearts, its loving God with a whole heart. That’s the great command. To be whole and love in wholeness."
Brent Lokker is the pastor of Blazing Fire Church and author of Always Loved.
You can learn more about him at www.brentlokkerministries.com
The Bible cannot be the foundation we build upon, the foundation is Jesus. Brian Zahnd talks on how to approach scripture, American Nationalism, Trump's Bible photo Op during the George Floyd protests, equality, and contemplative prayer in this brilliant and transformative Podcast.
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www.brianzahnd.com
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In part 2 Baxter continues to reveal how there is no separation in the Triune God and there is no separation between us.
“The good Shepherd is good and He doesn’t do abonnement because His Father doesn’t do abandonment and neither does Holy Spirit."
Jesus has stepped into our darkness or delusion to reveal Himself. And Baxter unpacks several scriptures in John around our inclusion. Jesus prayed that we would know our union just as He knew and revealed.
Baxter also breaks down two thoughts expressed by George MacDonald’s writings
“Good souls many will one day be horrified at the things they think of God.” “God is not bound to punish sin, God is bound to destroy it.”
And of course we discuss tacos.
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Baxter talks about the “growing despair of good people,” a church that’s been raised on separation awakening to our union, Christ in us, the hope of glory.
“Jesus has pitched His tent in our flesh… If I didn’t believe that Jesus, Father and Holy Spirit is inside every person on the whole earth, I would not open my mouth… But we are bearing witness to something that is real.”
Jesus has stepped into our delusions, into our darkness, and that the discovery of Christ in us is the hope of glory, life, wholeness, and freedom.
In part one Baxter talks on Christ as our Creator and also shares about the willingness to approach pain so we might know God more intimately.
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John Mark talks enneagram, songwriting, his latest record, Peopled with Dreams, and shares about a vulnerable joy he has discovered as he enters his 40’s. “Gratitude is the practice of seeing the world correctly” and John Mark shares how He rediscovered Jesus in the last several years and in so doing rediscovered his faith. He referred to this new record as a “walk back into faith” and it applies to himself but also is an invitation for all who listen to rediscover faith.
Regarding the new record, John Mark said, “I am building bridges between my friends who are atheists, my friends who are fundamentalists, my friends who consider themselves progressive or any end of the spectrum. Because gratitude is the one place we all come together.”
“You can’t be in gratitude and have a long term poor disposition towards the people who bear the image of the thing you are having this gratitude for.”
Hermeneutics, pain and suffering, the sovereignty of God, brain science, Terrence Malick films, and tacos. Chris Green hits all the beats in this thought-provoking podcast.
Chris has authored several books, including most recently Surprised by God and The End is Music, both published by Cascade Press.
He and his wife, Julie, live in Lakeland with their three children.
Bill talks about how COVID19 may play a role in realigning our understanding of what the church is and how the gospel has been reduced down to its purest most basic form, Jesus. Evangelism has been relegated to getting people to come to church. But it’s way better than that.
Bill spoke about this pandemic and how believers can powerfully navigate fear.
Bill Vanderbush is a writer and brilliant communicator. In this podcast, Bill gives incredible insight into what the New Covenant looks like, our inclusion in the family through both being adopted and reborn, reckless grace, and how to navigate conflict online. (part 1)
Francois is an author most known for his current work, The Mirror Bible. In this interview, Francois talks about our Father's great affection, inclusion, grace, intimacy, ministry, and the unveiled revelation of love! He also shares some of his story and how he came to write The Mirror Bible.
The entire cosmos is the object of God’s affection! And he is not about to abandon his creation – the gift of his son is for humanity to realize their origin in him who mirrors their authentic birth – begotten not of flesh but of the Father! In this persuasion, the life of the ages echoes within the individual and announces that the days of regret and sense of lost-ness are over!
Derek and Sarah Turner, pastors of River Church Charlotte, share generously and candidly on the goodness of God, Jesus as perfect theology, reading scripture with a hermeneutic of Love, soul care, inclusion, rethinking our understanding of vengeance and wrath and the patient trusting journey into transformation.
“It’s not about the quantity of faith but the placement of faith. In John 17 Jesus prayed that we would believe that our Father loved us as much as our Father loved Him. If we put our faith in anything, let’s put it in Jesus’ prayer being answered.”
We had Karen Clark on and talked about how to navigate fear in the midst of Covid19. We discussed the three triads of the Enneagram and how knowing our Enneagram number can help us healthily navigate fear.
Karen shared that ultimately knowing the goodness of God is the foundation of navigating fear healthily; perfect love casts out fear.
Thomas, Jason, and Karen talk about some of the fear-mongering theologies that are running rampant online. When we understand who God is we understand that God didn’t send Covid19. God is not the instigator of death, He came to give us life and life more abundantly.
Finally, they discussed how God is a good Father who is available to us now in the midst of our fear. A Father who weeps with us while also lifting us up so we can see our circumstances the way He does and live in peace.
Early Church Fathers, the formation of the New Testament, how to approach scripture, Starwars, Puff Daddy, The Police, and the vast difference between retributive justice and restorative justice. Mako Nagasawa’s thoughts and generous communication were insightful, hopeful and transformative.
For more on Mako Nagasawa go to Anastasiscenter.org
Mike is a brilliant communicator and pastors Freedom Ministries. In this podcast we talk about prayer and oneness with God and Mike teaches us quantum physics! Mike reveals how scripture and quantum physics are not in conflict with each other. Mike then shares how to pray with confidence, especially in the scary days of the Coronavirus. He teaches us how to freely receive what we already have been given by our Father; "Everything He has is already ours!"
Quotes:
"He is a more than enough God, not just enough. He came to give us life and life more abundantly."
"The New Covenant is our Union."
Books Mike mentioned as resources.
Becoming Supernatural by Joe Dispenza
The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance by Steven Kotler
The Divine Matrix: Bridging Time, Space, Miracles and Belief by Gregg Braden
The Power of the Subconscious Mind by Joseph Murphy
You can learn more about Mike at Freedom Ministries. www.freedomministries.org
Freedom Ministries Youtube messages can be found HERE
Mike mentioned Inspire100.org, a ministry near to his heart. Learn More HERE
Brad discusses high Christology, the greater your focus on Christ (a theology of Christ) the wider you see Abba’s love to be.
Brad gives insight into how our early church fathers thought about God and read or interpreted scripture. He also discussed what the wrath of God means in scripture.
For more information on Brad Jersak go to:
https://bradjersak.com
In part 2, Paul dove into scripture and how to read it for an encounter. He highlighted that Jesus is what God is like. He also discussed how God gives us grace for today and how to live in this moment.
Some of the people Paul is reading now:
Martin Schleske: www.schleske.de
Baxter Kruger: www.perichoresis.org
Richard Rohr: www.cac.org
David Tensen: www.davidtensen.com
For more information on Wm. Paul Young go to www.wmpaulyoung.com
In part 1, Paul tells a story about the making of the Shack, his friendship with Brad Jersak and how God used their first meeting, and the filming of the shack to heal a couple who had experienced great loss.
Paul dives into the goodness of God and trust.
“Trust is my through-line”
“In religion, you don’t actually have to trust God”
Paul discussed the conference The Grand Embrace with Wm. Paul Young, Dr. Brad Jersak, Cathy AJ Hardy & Lorie Martin
For more information on Wm. Paul Young go to
Wm. Paul Young http://wmpaulyoung.com
What if control is a flawed word to describe God’s sovereignty? What if there is an infinitely better word, a greater revelation, love!
Jason and Thomas discuss the sovereignty of God and focus on Jason's book, God Is Not In Control. God's love is what defines His sovereignty. And God's love is revealed through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus.
The idea's that God is in control and God is good are often two opposing thoughts.
When we realize that God’s supreme power and authority are love…everything changes for the better.
Rethinking God with Tacos is two guys who really like tacos discovering that God is love and His love is better than our ability to understand, better than our greatest thoughts, better than our wildest imaginings, and even better than our best biblical interpretation; just two guys and some occasional amazing guests rethinking.
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